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Should we do this?
Yeah.
We're still on the opposite side of the room.
I know.
I can feel the awkwardness.
And set.
The "In The City" season 1 reunion starts now.
Hey, everybody.
Welcome to the "In The City" Season 1 Reunion.
I love a season 1 reunion.
I'm Andy Cohen.
And I almost wore a whitish-pink suit tonight.
But after what happened to Danielle,
I went right back in my dressing room
and I changed very quickly.
Good move.
Without further ado, yes, let's say
hi to the gang from Gotham.
Yvonne and Nick, congratulations on expecting.
Thank you.
Yes!
Hey, Gavin.
What's up?
Have you noticed a spike in business at your bars
since the show started airing? - I have.
- Yes. - People are showing up.
Excellent.
Hey, Georgina. - Hi.
- How are you? - I'm good.
How are you?
Great.
Has Kyle hit you up for any butt Botox lately?
That would be a HIPAA violation to answer.
Oh!
OK.
Hey, Amanda. - Hi, Andy.
- How are you? - I'm OK.
OK, good.
I know the last few months have been a whirlwind for you.
How are you approaching today differently?
I know you actually did your own hair tonight.
I did.
I did my own hair, makeup, and styling
so no one can get in trouble.
And if you hate it, then, you know, that's on me.
That's on you.
Right, right.
As are most of my actions, but--
- Yes. - yeah.
All right.
Hi, Lindsay.
Hey, Andy.
Is Gemma still a master of side-eye?
She is. And in fact--
Where'd she get that?
I don't know.
It's so crazy how, you know, genetics work.
Yeah, it is.
DJ Kyle Cook. - How are we doing?
How are you?
Pretty good, pretty good.
Very good.
The people need to know, how is your asshole doing?
Well, you're supposed to ease into Metamucil.
I was taking four times the recommended dosage.
I like, literally, like, rip my butt open.
You know, I was hoping it made the edit.
I-- it took a while.
I finally recovered.
- You did? - Yeah.
Sounded like it.
Oh, my god.
Hey, Kenny and Whitney.
- Hi. - How's it going?
Good, good.
How are you?
How's your spark these days?
Phenomenal.
Good.
It's very, very bright.
Hey, Danielle and Eoin.
- Hi, Andy. - Hi, Andy.
How are you? - How are you?
You are also expecting.
Congratulations. - Yes.
Thank you.
You are due when?
Labor Day.
- Labor Day? - Yeah.
Wow.
And finally, good news comes in threes.
Congratulations are also in order to Andrea and Lexi,
who are expecting a baby girl.
Congratulations.
Nice to see you, Andy.
It's been a while.
When are you due?
September 2.
Wow!
I mean, this is-- - Boom, boom, boom.
Within a week.
- Yep. - Wow.
Yeah, we're all within a week of each other.
- Oh, my god. - Lots of labor.
I guess that means the prosciutto method works.
That's a good method.
- He lifts you up. - That's my move.
Yeah.
Semi off the ground.
Like a prosciutto.
It's easy.
You just grab her from the legs, and make sure
it goes straight.
Our daughter is gonna see this.
All right, well, let's get into it.
As the entire world knows by now,
after Kyle and Amanda's marriage went south,
Amanda found herself swerving West.
There's been a ton of online speculation about where
you two stand today.
So let me just start there and get an update.
How are things going?
I know you were just in Italy.
Yes.
And, you know, this video or a picture of you
spitting in his mouth was everywhere.
- It was an olive. - It was an olive, OK.
Yes. I wasn't spitting in his mouth.
OK.
Yeah.
I got a lot of heat for only asking
West if he was on a beta blocker at the reunion.
Yes.
There was a lot of people wanted
me to ask if you were, you know, disengaged chemically.
No.
I did-- I was on a beta blocker as well.
But that's not why I was disengaged.
I think after a while, I think people can see also, you know,
when Kyle and I have had arguments,
my defense mechanism is to just shut down and dissociate.
That wasn't because of medication.
We have heard from Kyle, Amanda, and Lindsay
at the "Summer House" reunion.
I'm curious for the rest of you in the group
if anyone had a reaction or were
you surprised about Amanda and West
announcing that they were giving it a shot.
- Yes. - Yes.
- Shocked. - Shocked?
- Shocked. - I didn't believe it.
I thought-- - Disappointed.
Mm-hmm.
Why?
I think because of the way it all unfolded.
The friendships that were broken apart because of it.
And then I just-- honestly, I hate that you kind of doubled
down and you're pursuing this relationship with him
all the way, you know, going to Italy.
I know that you had to make a decision one way or the other.
I just wish for you, that you would take
some time just for yourself.
Be alone.
What's your reaction to her disappointment?
No, I understand.
I think and I know the way that I handled things and went about
the whole situation was wrong.
And you can't go back and change it.
But you can a little.
I can't go back and change the fact that I wasn't honest
and, you know, and hid things and lied.
I'm curious, have y'all hung out with Amanda and West yet?
Anyone here in this group? - No.
No?
Gavin, have they turned up at any of your bars?
They know better than that.
What would you do?
What would happen if they turned up at one of your bars?
Cut, cut.
Rejected at the door.
Those two.
No.
Amanda, she would never do that.
Yeah, no.
I mean, we're not going out much in general, so.
Are you two monogamous now?
Yes.
Are you in love?
That's-- it's a weird question to answer.
Do you say, I love you?
Not really.
Not really?
Have you ever?
No.
"Love ya" counts.
Yeah, ILY.
Oh!
As you look back on the reunion, did you watch it?
I lived it.
I didn't-- I have not.
OK.
Did you-- when you left, did you leave feeling that there
was nothing left unsaid?
Or were you-- like, were you disappointed
in your performance?
Were you fine with it?
How did you--
For sure disappointed in my performance.
You know, I definitely wanted to come in and
be able to apologize and provide more clarity
and come off as sad and like--
not me not hurt, but upset about how
I've hurt other people.
And I think the energy, I went into defense mode.
And that's not to blame anyone.
I understand where everyone was coming from.
But my natural instinct was to get defensive.
And I don't love the way that I handled myself at all.
You wish you had not gotten defensive?
- Yeah. - Yeah.
- Not at all. - I don't know West.
I do care about you.
And I've known you for a long time.
But he seems like the things that you
were most upset with Kyle about, like, 10 times worse.
That's not what I've been experiencing whatsoever.
And on the flip side, I'm actually
getting from him things that I felt
I was lacking in my relationship with Kyle, so--
Like what?
Just someone that's been, like,
supportive, that I feel like--
like, like--
Let me know when he does your taxes,
negotiates your brand deals. - You feel built up?
- I feel-- I do-- - Make your bed.
Like--
I feel--
How did I not support you?
I didn't say you don't support me.
But towards the end of our relationship,
there were things that were missing.
Not the whole time, but there were things that were lacking.
To this day, I'm still doing things to help you.
So it's just-- it still hurts when you say things like that.
I understand our marriage is not perfect.
I understand there's a lot missing.
I don't think support was--
The way that he, like, talks to me and tells me.
Like, it's just his actions, just the way--
it's just-- it's different.
And--
Well, I mean, yeah.
He's-- yeah, anyway.
I hope you understand that everything
that everybody here is saying is because they care about you.
I know that.
You have people in your--
I just don't want you to turn your back.
And I know it's tough to sit here and
do this all over again, take the criticism.
And it's a lose-lose.
Like, you're coming into the other reunion.
There's nothing you're going to say
that's going to make it right.
I know.
And similar today, so I give you
credit for taking it on the chin,
and it's not the first time he's
said the right thing to somebody to wrap
them around his finger.
Kyle, you've been very dignified
throughout this whole thing.
No, Kyle's been--
continued to be amazed by how your--
- the best. - support--
- Yeah. - It's a testament to--
Yeah.
I'm wondering, what was your perspective
about Kyle's conversation with West, and in general,
his level of support for you?
I mean, I'm eternally grateful for Kyle.
I think it just shows how much we do have love for each other
and I think it's something that we've made
clear from the very beginning.
Unfortunately, like, we could not communicate,
we could not get along in our marriage,
but that doesn't take away from the friendship and the love
that we've had for each other this whole time.
Which is also why, when we first separated,
I was always standing up for him too, because I didn't
want people to attack him.
And I'm just really appreciative that he's
been there for me as well, because if anyone
knows each other better, it's the two of us.
So I've been very grateful to have him.
I don't know any other way, so it's--
It's been a ride.
Yeah.
Coming up.
- When I can finish-- - There was a period of time.
let me know.
You just talk over everyone.
Let someone else speak.
sitting here screaming.
OK, we are back.
So, what's it like hanging out with single Kyle now, folks?
Kenny?
When he's not making out with somebody?
With all due, is single Kyle that different--
Not at all.
from married Kyle?
Kyle is true to himself.
I don't have, like, this guilt trip--
- Yeah. - hanging over my head.
He's just more public with his makeouts now.
- Kyle is going to be Kyle. - Yeah.
And I love hearing about them.
Are you just being recorded?
- Do you care if-- - I think it was--
- you see him making out-- - years ago.
with someone now?
It wasn't as much years ago.
No, I think I mourned most of our relationship
when I was still in it, which is why I think I was so cold
and closed off towards the end of it,
because I was coming to terms that it
wasn't going to continue.
And now, like, he tells me about make outs that he has
and we laugh about it.
Or like, I'll call him and be like,
I saw you kissing Meghan on your tippy toes.
What was that? - Not my tippy toes.
- He wasn't on his tippy toes. - Not my tippy toes.
He was not on his tippy toes.
And at our premiere party, we have a laugh about it.
And then, yeah, at our premiere party.
He was telling Amanda--
Kyle was telling Amanda--
How he has sober sex.
And she was saying, I'm so proud of you.
- What? - She had tears in her eyes.
Yeah.
I don't know how that came about.
I was like, What is going on right now?
Who's having sober sex?
You're having sober sex? - Yeah.
And Amanda was so proud.
I guess I was trying to make a point, but--
- Kyle McGill-- - I forget my point.
Like, how do you know you're over somebody
when you're proud I them that they're having sober sex?
Part of me wonders if you are fully allowing
yourself to process this.
The way you're showing up for her,
the way that you guys are still so friendly,
given the level of betrayal here.
It's like, are you allowing yourself--
- Well, I didn't betray-- - to process?
- We were-- - Here's the hero.
way separated before.
There was no betrayal.
Like, I didn't cheat on Kyle.
I didn't have an affair.
There was no crossover, overlap.
Like, our marriage was done.
Oh, it did hurt to hear--
I mean, like, to this day--
Of course, it hurt.
Look, the only thing I'll say is,
the thing that I can't compute is our statement
comes out the 19th.
There's two weekends between the 19th and the Super Bowl and
everybody talks about the Super Bowl being that
point in time where West--
- Which doesn't make-- - said that--
sense to me--
you guys were an item.
because we weren't an item at all.
We were texting.
Then take it up with him, because he's out there running
his mouth before, apparently, you guys were an item,
saying you were an item.
Yeah, again--
Which again, like, what's his MO?
I don't know. - Don't know.
I only bring that up because I am still--
Like, there's still stuff that I am processing.
Who do you feel more betrayed by, West or Amanda?
West.
Because we were boys and we were done with our--
You made out with someone before I was even texting
West in any sort of way.
The night before our premiere party in February?
Yeah.
So, like, Kyle was done.
He was making out with Sally--
Yeah.
the night before the "Summer House" premiere.
My point is, Kyle wasn't, like, in his bed
crying about the marriage.
Like, Kyle was, like, enjoying his freedom.
Right.
And are you in Sally hanging out?
I was just in Charleston.
Austin threw a nice little party.
- And what happened? - We hung out.
Yes.
- Yes, we hooked up. - OK.
And there's nothing wrong with that,
and I didn't have an issue-- - Did you have sober sex?
with it the first time I heard about it either.
Was it sober?
Your-- your reaction--
Kyle, your reaction--
No, it's prosciutto.
It's the prosciutto.
Lawnmower?
The wheelbarrow.
Wheelbarrow.
So since nothing happens outside the Bravo sphere,
we've got LaLa from The Valley saying
that she heard on good authority
that you are great in bed.
Yeah, I woke up to some texts from, like,
TMZ and Page Six asking for comment.
I was like, this is one time I would like to comment.
But how would people know that?
So how many people are you sleeping with and how soon
after-- - No, it was Sally.
- OK. - It was Sally.
Just Sally.
She had told LaLa, because, I guess,
they had recorded a podcast.
What were you guys doing in bed?
Having sober sex, Amanda.
What are you doing in bed?
Wait, was the sober sex person her?
- No, no, no. - Oh.
No, no, no.
TBD.
One was my age, one was 10 years younger,
but reads at an older level.
He certainly was not on his tippies.
He was not on his tippies, I'll tell you that.
And I found a bra. Yeah.
No, it's fine.
We are able to laugh about it.
Well, I should hope so.
I feel like that means it's been over for--
Well, I want to put a pin in this,
and we are going to get more into Kyle and Amanda's marriage
a little later.
Well, these days, getting activated
looks a lot different for Lindsay Hubbard.
This new mom found herself sandwiched
between a baby, a core group of New York City girlfriends,
and an utterly unpredictable love life.
Andrea, it was very entertaining to see
how giddy you got trying to set Lindsay up.
Have you been on the hunt for her since then?
Oh, she's still going decently
strong with Mr. Milkman.
Are you?
Yeah.
They're very cute together.
I met Frank--
Tell me how you really feel? You have no idea.
when he was dating Kelly Dodd.
I know.
He loves reality stars.
The Bravo world is so small.
I mean--
I'm not in a place right now where I'm looking
for a serious relationship.
I really just am not.
I think the last--
You're focused on your daughter.
Yeah. And work.
Daughter and work.
And co-parenting.
And if-- dating has to be fun for me, and I just
am not ready to settle down.
The last two partners that I decided were going to be
my partners, didn't work out.
So I really am taking my time when
it comes to that big decision.
Co-parenting is going well?
He's a great father.
Is he dating anyone?
I hope so.
You hope so, but you don't know?
Wait, you don't talk?
It makes everyone nicer when they're getting laid.
- That is true. - Look at Kyle.
He's-- He's glowing.
Danielle, what do you think of Frank and Dustin
as potential mates for Lindsay?
I'm not going to comment on Lindsay's
relationships anymore.
We are back with the "In The City" Reunion.
Georgina and Yvonne, what kind of guy do you see Lindsay with?
Oh my God.
I see Lindsay with somebody ambitious.
So Frank did check that box.
But I also see Lindsay with somebody who doesn't
take himself very seriously.
Honestly, I think Dustin would have
been a great match if he lived here, because he
kind of checks those boxes.
Obviously, he's handsome.
She needs somebody good looking and
somebody who's really confident and secure
and is not going to be intimidated by the fact
that she doesn't need him, she just wants him.
And I think someone who prioritizes
Lindsay and values you.
I think I'm still skeptical of Frank,
but I would love to see you with someone else.
But he's fun for now.
Yeah.
She's right about that part related to Frank.
He should be more available.
- More available. - But I was--
Frank has just been the fling category--
- He's very fun, though. - not the ring category.
- He's very fun. - There's something missing.
I won't allow it.
There's something we don't know about Frank.
He's very cute.
Danielle, what do you think of Frank and Dustin
as potential mates for Lindsay?
I-- I-- I'm not going to comment
on Lindsay's relationships anymore.
You've learned your lesson.
Yes, I've learned--
I've learned several lessons.
I-- I do think that what Georgina and Yvonne is--
said is spot on, I mean, perhaps, like,
a little bit more grounded and ready for-- for someone
like her.
Georgina, are you currently seeing anyone?
No, but I've decided that that's my next chapter.
OK.
Well, you have your photos ready for Raya.
- That's a big decision. - It is a big decision
- Yeah. - It's hard with kids, but--
and I kind of didn't want to confuse them.
And then I am going to be dating-- actually,
something Whitney and I spoke about-- intentionally,
where it's not the same.
It's not going to be just for fun.
One of my patients and good friends
actually said something to me.
Because I was so cautious.
I was like, I don't--
I don't know.
I-- I was hoping it would still work out with their dad,
to be honest, as pathetic as that sounds,
just because then it's easier on them.
But she said something.
She said, you know, her parents split up
when they were really young.
And they both got remarried.
And it was just more people to love her.
Aw.
And I love that.
That-- that's great.
So that really, like, tipped me over, where
I was like, you know what?
Another person to love my kids and love me--
Yes.
I think that would be fantastic.
- Yes. - Yes.
Lindsay and Georgina, Ali W. emailed,
congratulations to Danielle, Yvonne and Lexi.
Lindsay and Georgina, what's the best
parenting advice you have to offer our soon-to-be moms?
My best advice is to just go with it.
You cannot control how it's all going to go down,
whether it's from the birth to after the birth,
the postpartum.
You just have to just move with the motions as they come.
And make sure you have your support systems in-- in line,
you know?
And I'm here for all of you, including Danielle.
I think the best advice is give yourself grace.
Mm-hmm.
Give yourself love.
If you need a minute, take a minute.
I remember, you know, holding in my pee
because my baby was crying.
And it was in the morning.
And I, like, had to go to him and give him his bottle
before I could even pee.
And then with my second, I'm like, eh, she'll be fine.
I can go to the bathroom, brush my teeth.
So I wish I knew that the first time around.
Do what's best for you.
And your-- and your baby.
You know them better than anybody else ever will.
All right--
Would you agree with that?
I would-- I would agree with that.
OK.
Yes.
All right, let's switch gears.
Kenny caught a lot of smoke for moving Whitney
all the way to New York without giving her a ring or a closet.
But rumors that Kenny and Whitney's relationship
lacked a spark had this entire group all lit up.
Watch this.
She moved across the country before the ring.
You can't around with this, like, at all.
I'm getting I hate men vibes.
I'm just allergic to, like, annoying men.
Sometimes you-- you go in a relationship and you feel this
spark and this buzz and this fire, where you're like,
this is my person.
Right.
And it's hard to know, for me, like, is the,
like, this is the one and I know it
for sure sparked spark there?
Yeah.
Kenny said that he's unsure if there's
a spark between you guys.
He might have used the word murky.
All I know is I had a birthday dinner yesterday.
And my girlfriend was upset because of the word murky.
Kyle said that you're doubting-- doubting the spark.
Why is he running his mouth?
But I'm not running my mouth!
I can't deal with a wall.
So Gabby from Houston, Texas on Threads
said, Kenny, why is it so crazy for Lindsay
to say to you that it's a big gesture for your girlfriend
to move across the country from her friends without a ring?
Do you not agree?
I agree, it's a big gesture.
She's projecting her situation onto my relationship.
- What situation? - Let him finish.
Let him finish. - She was very, like--
Kenny, I think she was asking you a very--
- Let him finish. - basic question.
- OK, let's let him-- - You know what?
Let's let him finish.
Let's-- please, let's let him finish.
OK, before the minions step in--
How about we just say, yeah, it's a really big step.
I'm so grateful she's here.
But I want to hear from Whitney.
I want to know Whitney's reaction
to watching back when Lindsey first grilled
Kenny about your relationship.
How did you take it?
I-- it felt very intense.
I think, if you're saying it was, like, out of my best
interest, you would have just, like,
asked the questions, versus, like--
I did ask the questions.
insinu-- but you were insinuating judgment
on the questions, versus just understanding
and hearing his perspective.
I'm just asking questions.
And as he's looking around, making
sure you're not right there to make
sure you don't know that he fucked around on you--
- I actually knew that. - whenever.
We talked about--
- We weren't together. - I'm paying attention.
Let's be very clear.
I'm paying attention to his friends.
- We were not together. - That's OK.
OK, so let's not paint some picture.
I'm not even-- I'm not painting a picture.
I got out of an 11-year relationship,
eight-year relationship.
OK, so when I can finish, let me know--
And there was a period of time where--
there was a period of time-- - gaslighter.
where--
When I can finish, let me know.
where we took a step apart.
And I was going through some very difficult family shit.
When I can finish, let me know.
And I will let you know.
But when you're going through something
and you lose the only person in your life that--
- Misogynistic, narcissistic. - literally--
- That is so not true. - What are you talking about?
Then let me know when I can finish.
I have to say--
Well, you just talk over everyone.
Let someone else speak.
Coming up.
I think you were off-the-bat defensive.
As I should be.
When you're going through something
and you lose the only person in your life that literally--
Misogynistic, narcissistic.
- That is so not true. - What are you talking about?
Then let me know when I can finish.
I have to-- I have to--
Well, you just talk over everyone.
Let someone else speak.
You're talking-- you're sitting here screaming.
This has been the whole season.
OK, what do you want to say?
I was making a point to Kenny,
saying, wow, your girlfriend is committing hard to right now.
And don't fuck around.
That's me taking Whitney's side.
That's me taking the perspective of the female
to say, as you're looking around, talking about--
and your friends are saying that you
are a fuckboy, like, my response
is don't fuck around on her.
She just moved across the country for you.
I'm literally being a girl's girl to you, Whitney.
That's what happened.
And if you can't understand that,
that's because you have a very different mindset
as a male in this world.
OK, but can I just say something?
It didn't seem to land with her that you were--
No, because--
I feel like if you're a girl's girl,
you would pull me aside--
she wasn't in that conversation.
I understand.
But I just asked her what she thought when she watched it.
And she's saying that she didn't take it that way.
Well, you know, me and Whitney
are very different people.
Kenny, Amanda from Arizona on Threads
said, how you going to go off on Lindsay when you straight
up told Kyle you were questioning
if there were sparks with Whitney in the first episode?
Lindsay has you clocked.
We spoke about the fact that I had
had an 11-year relationship.
I had an eight-year relationship.
I had just lost my mom.
And I was in this place where I was
feeling numb to long-term things working out.
Like, I just wasn't feeling the spark when
it comes to, like, long term.
OK.
And of course, it's unfortunate that--
You were scared.
I was grieving and I was trying to, like--
and be in the moment.
But I was having, like, these doubts about long term,
in general.
And I said, I think it's a me thing,
and I have to figure that out.
So Whitney, having watched the conversation where
Kenny's concerns about your future as a couple, did they--
how did they land with you?
I had figured, like, when Lexi and Georgina, like,
brought this, that I was in disbelief about it
because we had had these conversations.
But the words obviously, like, started ruminating,
like, oh, my gosh, like, the weight
of this move and whatever.
And you see me get upset because the last thing
I want to do is, like, miss something in a relationship.
But all I had to do was go talk to him
and, like, be reassured--
If I can stand up for my boy for a second--
the feelings in the relationship.
And with a little bit of--
Are you sure you want to do that?
I think you were, off the bat, defensive.
Yes.
And I should be.
And just as-- learn from Amanda.
She just sat-- she just sat here and said she wishes
she weren't as defensive.
Yeah, a lot of times, I feel like you
were lacking explanation. - That would have helped.
That's the thing.
That's why I said that you haven't been--
If you had just owned it, less defensive.
accountable on a lot of things.
No, but I don't think he was questioning the future.
No, but it's not--
I think he was questioning, hey, like, I love her, but--
- But he said their future-- - Yeah.
There's a-- you know, am I at 100%?
And I was-- and I was identifying with--
I've been unsuccessful before.
- Yeah. - Repeatedly.
- But nobody-- - And I just lost my mom.
Nobody's judging.
Why is that so hard to understand?
Nobody's judging.
We're reacting to the words that came out of his mouth.
All right, I'm moving on.
Gavin, Jennifer F on email, "I couldn't believe
when you called Whitney boring to her face."
I said the spark comment, to be very clear.
Now that I know that you said it, it sounds all perfect, bro.
But like, just perfect?
That's kind of boring.
"What is it about Kenny and Whitney's relationship
that felt boring to you?
They're still together, so it can't be that boring."
I didn't directly call her boring or vanilla.
I said that their relationship is boring.
No, you did.
You said it at me, not the relationship.
- You said she was boring. - Because I feel like again--
It read--
they're just trying to project, again,
not being honest with themselves and being like,
hey, we're in love.
You moved across country.
We're still figuring it out. Done.
That's it.
Everything would have been fine.
She has a tutorial on how to make toast.
That would be so easy.
Jason P emailed, "Do you agree with Whitney's take that
Gavin is only used to crazy toxic relationships
and seeing you miserable?"
Yeah.
Think before you answer.
I think part of the--
I think part of it was that Gavin
has been in these cycles of relationships that
are very volatile and toxic.
I have been--
He's really passionate.
Yeah.
And I have been in those relationships in the past, too.
What I love about this relationship is that it's not.
It's very grounding.
It feels very safe.
Like, we're in a really good place.
And I think that that might come across
to boring as some people, but for me,
it's like, it's regulating.
It feels good.
Like, we're very happy about it,
and I just don't think he fully can like, understand that.
Do you dislike Whitney?
- I love Whitney. - You do?
Yes.
It just annoys me that they said their relationship
is all travel and excitement.
That sounds like a honeymoon phase, which is great.
It's much more than that, obviously.
Now be honest with everyone and yourselves
that you're still working on things.
- It's so much more than that. - That's fine.
It's so much more than that.
That's absolutely fine.
Whitney, Jasmine said, on "Watch What Happens Live,"
that the most fame hungry contestant
from Bachelor Nation is you.
Who do you think was solely in it for the fame?
Ooh.
Only one?
Um, I'll say Whitney, who's on "The City."
All right.
Honestly, if you said that--
That's the most bizarre thing ever.
I like, didn't even go far in "The Bachelor."
I wasn't even shown.
Whitney, if you just said you're
with him to be on reality TV, I would
actually prefer that to saying you're actually with him.
Are you kidding me?
At this point, yes.
Wait, the show was even a thing when they were together.
We were together before this was even an option.
By the way, I said I don't want to do it.
Coming up--
I almost threw up watching this last night
because it was so much worse than as it was explained to me.
We were together before this was even an option.
And by the way, I said I don't want to do it.
After watching everything, we re-talked about it.
- They weren't even part of-- - Nasty.
any of this.
I watched everything.
Guys, they've been dating for a long ass time.
Yeah.
I can tell that there is a genuine love
and you guys have been doing a lot of steps.
So I absolutely disagree with the fact
that this is just for-- for reality.
So how is the spark today?
Brighter than ever.
Yeah.
Honestly, it's-- I think it's-- we have such a good
connection and I just think we're in such
a great place that--
Why are you upset?
Well, it's just hurtful that people think that I was like,
on a show with Kenny for fame.
I don't think that.
I just wish that were the case.
I've been accused of the same thing for 10 years.
Why do you wish that was the case?
Because I watched back the whole show like,
it's actually worse than I thought.
It's like, you want her to be friends with everybody?
What are you talking about?
You're generalizing something.
Let me finish talking, Andy asked me a question.
If you show up to a group and you want your girlfriend
to be friends with everybody, you
should be nice to everybody.
You don't attack people.
And maybe this is a moment for me to own it.
But I felt like the whole season,
especially in the beginning, I was
having to defend my relationship, defend my spark,
defend moving Whitney across the country.
I was in defense mode to where I couldn't even enjoy
hanging out with this group.
And it clearly came across to everyone else
like I was attacking everyone.
But for me, I know what I said to Kyle.
I know what I said to Whitney.
I felt like I--
it was all out there.
But for some reason, I was still having to defend
somebody that I love.
And we were in a great place at that time and now,
and why am I having to defend this relationship to everyone?
It was also really hurtful to watch you talk about us
and you didn't even know us.
Like, I had just met you guys a week before
and your girlfriend moves to New York.
And the things that you're saying to her, that Lindsay
has minions--
Lindsay has her girls, and her girls--
Don't you mean the minions?
That's not minions.
They're called fucking friends.
It's a mean girl fucking crew.
Kenny's about to get--
And what does that mean?
Like, we're going to gang up on her
and not give her an opportunity to be part of our group?
We don't even know you.
And it felt like you were isolating her and creating,
like, a nasty environment.
We are not opinions or minions or whatever
the fuck you guys were saying.
But Yvonne, you even said when we hung out
as the four of us, it's OK that I'm
hanging out with Danielle because Lindsay's
OK with Danielle. - Lindsay approved.
I don't think you guys realize,
when there's something that comes up,
you don't think you're having groupthink,
but you're all having the same opinion at the same time
against one person.
Lindsay, Bella from Colorado said,
"You were upset with Danielle with her comments
about your last couple relationships.
But they were valid concerns.
It seems like you want friends that are blindly loyal to you
instead of having friends who share their true
concerns and opinions."
No, that's absolutely not true.
Yvonne is one of the biggest--
you know, she is--
Devil's advocate.
devil's advocate always with me.
Georgina is certainly highly opinionated.
I mean, even for years, Danielle
has had a lot of opinions.
It's more about I think there is a fine line when
big decisions are being made in someone's life of,
like, letting them figure it out for themselves
or, you know, really like, feeling
like you need to take charge and take over, you know,
the decision.
I'm actually scared of my--
I'm the minion in all of my friends, quite frankly.
Lexi, do you think Lindsay and her friends
are a mean girl crew, as Kenny put it?
No, not at all.
I mean, I consider them my good friends as well.
And I think, you know, everybody's
allowed to have their own opinion,
and it's great that they feel like they can speak up and
share that and not feel like they're being silenced or
being led by somebody.
It is lonely on the outside.
The island that I found myself on was terrible.
I was the oldest girl in the Summer House for years,
and I was on an Island for about
five to six years in a row.
If anyone can understand, it's me, and I'm OK.
And I think what we do in this situation is we hear,
we listen--
I'm just fucking tired of it.
and we learn.
So maybe from here on out, when a question
isn't asked to one of you three, not everyone is--
Yeah, well, we can't deal with that.
Guys, even after all of this--
- Like, in terms of this thing. - I missed it.
- Of course. - I don't deny it.
- What did you say? - Did you black out?
I was just saying, maybe when we hear some--
when we learn from this as people are feeling this way.
And maybe for the rest of the evening, when one of you three
aren't asked a question, not all of you
answer for that one person.
I will apologize.
The word minion, I first said it at guys' night.
It was not the best word choice.
It also felt like you made up your mind about us
before you even gave us a shot.
Kyle, give him the best advice.
When you apologize, don't follow up with but
and give an explanation.
Just say you're sorry and then period.
That's what I just said.
From someone who learned.
And you are wearing yellow.
Minion yellow.
OK, very good.
Looks good on you.
You know it.
I'm wearing pink, right?
Kenny, I loved the scene where
you reunited with your dad.
I can't believe it.
Oh, my god.
I mean, it was so moving.
That must have been absolutely just mind blowing
that that happened so quickly.
It honestly was like, a very unexpected
situation, to be honest.
Like, I'm still, like, in a little bit of shock
that we talk weekly.
You do?
You speak weekly?
We talk weekly.
Have you met your half siblings yet?
I've met some of them, yeah.
And you know, Lindsey and Kenny,
you've talked about this a lot and
about how your lives were affected by the absence
of your parents.
I'm curious what advice you have
for people who might be going through a similar experience.
Well, first, I want to say, like,
when I watched that, I had chills,
and I was completely crying.
It was beautiful to see, and I'm so happy for you.
Honestly, genuinely warmed my heart for you
because I feel like it was a missing
hole that you needed to be filled that your dad was
able to fill.
I think Kenny and I have very different situations.
His dad, his stepmom, were looking
for him, searching for him.
Mine knows where to find me.
She has my number.
She chooses not to.
And that's kind of been the case my entire life.
So I think it's a little bit different.
I had to spend years and years in therapy
to work through those abandonment issues.
It's never going to go away for me.
It's more about how I recognize it, react to it,
communicate it, and not let it control me,
and it's just therapy and practice and experience.
I was really moved hearing you
tell Kenny how what you went through with your mom
has impacted the mom that you want to be with Gemma.
I thought that was so amazing that you're
trying to break that.
Yeah, the interesting part is I don't actually have to try
that hard to break the cycle.
Right.
It is innate inside of me and how
I've always been wanting to show up as a mom to Gemma,
and you, obviously, as a parent and Georgina as a mom,
like, we all, like, just try to do
the best that we can to show unconditional love
at all times, you know?
And I think that's all that, like, kids need is like,
they just need to be kids, and they need to be loved.
And that's not that hard to give.
Whitney, have you noticed a change
in Kenny since he brought his dad back into his life?
Yeah, I think it was a huge weight lifted off him
that he didn't even know was there,
and I think it brought us a lot closer.
Whitney, how do you see your future with Kenny?
I mean, we've had a lot of conversations
even since the show, and we've really talked about,
like, getting engaged this year and taking next steps
and being really confident in that place.
So it's definitely a different place than a few months ago.
Coming up--
Lindsey, you collect apologies
like you collect souls.
We are back with the "In the City" reunion.
Clearly, this group has baby fever.
Do you want kids someday?
Definitely want kids.
Kids soon, yeah.
- Maybe minion Martin. - one.
Maybe minion Martin.
Baby minion Martin.
Well, while Lindsey was betting on herself
in the New York City dating scene,
accusations that she was playing the single mom card
had a few people here dealing out insults and accusations.
Take a look.
We're taking the primary.
Yeah, because we're two moms that have not been
away from our kids in a while.
She always plays the single mom card.
And I'm like, OK, you can't use that excuse for everything.
You use the word single mom card.
She's kind of above everyone else.
Everyone bows down to Lindsay, and I'm sick of watching it.
OK, I want to see how the single mom card
comment landed with the group.
Whitney, what made you go there,
and do you regret that choice of words?
I am really sorry that I used that term,
and even watching it back, I feel
like that was far from the point
that I was trying to get across.
Like, I respect you both as single mothers,
and I see how hard you work to give
your kids the life that you do and how you really
are there for them physically.
And I don't want to disregard that.
And I'm sorry that you felt a type of way from that comment
because I was really trying to get the point across
of standing up for Yvonne and your friendship
with just the gesture to kind of, like,
do something to help repair going
into our Friendsgiving weekend.
And I think that it totally took a different direction.
So I just want to apologize that you
took it the way that you did and it came across that way.
And not only did you say she uses a single mom card,
but how could she when she has a nanny and she has help?
The double down is what made it worse.
I almost threw up watching this last night--
The part.
because it was so much worse than
as it was explained to me.
It was so bad, Whitney, that you doubled down.
And it wasn't like, oh, I'm defending Yvonne.
Like, you had conviction when you said that.
- It was the-- - And like--
It was when you said there are plenty of mothers who
are single mothers who don't have help
and don't have someone around and don't have this and that.
And I'm like, OK, what's the next part?
They can't hang out with their friends either?
I mean, I appreciate the gesture of the apology,
but like, I don't think you didn't really mean it,
you know?
Like, I think you were annoyed that we
took the room because we said we were moms
and we needed a break.
And Kenny, if you wanted to do that gesture,
she's your co-host.
You should have talked to her and
said, hey, why don't we give Lindsey and Yvonne the room--
Vice versa.
There's also two other large rooms.
Usually, when you get to a house,
you say, OK, what are we going to do?
That's not what happened.
You literally suggested it in public in front of everyone.
So it was my-- it was my fault.
just because of how much we messed up your wedding.
Totally.
But either way--
It was coming from a good place.
Whitney, can you name any other instance
where Lindsey played the mom card besides when
she said she and Georgina were taking the primary rooms
because they were moms who haven't been away
from their kids in a while?
I misspoke when I said that you've used that.
It was more coming from I felt like you have been in--
I've witnessed these different situations
where you feel like you're a little more
deserving than other people. And I--
So when else have I complained
to you about being a mom?
She just said it was more about entitlement.
It was more about entitlement,
and it was not about that.
So I haven't.
- She just clarified. - I just said that.
OK.
You know cried about what you said for six months,
and the only time I didn't fucking cry about it
was when you had a scandal.
So thank you, Amanda, for taking me out of that
because it was so hurtful.
The reason I have a nanny is because I have to work while
you complain about your boyfriend
not paying for a $30,000 closet in his apartment all season.
I'm providing for women, and you
are depending on your boyfriend to provide for your lifestyle.
That's why it's very hurtful.
But I came out here just now, and I apologized for it, and--
OK, well, you're going to need
15 more apologies to any mom in the entire world.
It wasn't about that.
I'm sorry that it came out that way, but it was a--
Really poor choice of words.
Lindsey, you collect apologies
like you collect souls.
Coming up in part two of the "In the City" reunion--
Personally, I think I was, like, very close to someone
on a dance floor, and--
Your lips touched.
we'll hear from the moms and the boys.
Boys night.
Boys-- the boys.
Men.
No.
I'll call you a man when you act like one.
Regarding the information that you found out,
Kyle had had sex with someone while you were married, when
did you find that out?
Recently.
The city doesn't sleep, and the drama doesn't rest.
Your mouth is on her neck.
And I said, who is that girl?
You said, I don't know.
I'm not trying to do anything shady.
Kyle, come on.
The dramatic conclusion of the "In the City" reunion.
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