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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,205 --> 00:00:07,308 NARRATOR: This program is about unsolved mysteries. 2 00:00:07,408 --> 00:00:09,443 Whenever possible, the actual family members 3 00:00:09,543 --> 00:00:11,345 and police officials have participated 4 00:00:11,445 --> 00:00:12,880 in recreating the events. 5 00:00:12,980 --> 00:00:15,483 What you are about to see is not a news broadcast. 6 00:00:19,853 --> 00:00:20,854 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Tonight 7 00:00:20,954 --> 00:00:23,557 on "Unsolved Mysteries," 18-year-old Lisa 8 00:00:23,657 --> 00:00:26,994 Marie Kimmel was brutally stabbed in Casper, Wyoming. 9 00:00:27,095 --> 00:00:29,863 Yet for weeks after police believe she was murdered, 10 00:00:29,963 --> 00:00:32,500 hundreds of people across the Western United States 11 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,137 claim they saw Lisa or her car. 12 00:00:36,237 --> 00:00:38,406 For over a hundred years, fortune hunters 13 00:00:38,506 --> 00:00:41,309 have tried to find Arizona's Lost Dutchman Mine. 14 00:00:41,409 --> 00:00:43,611 Many men have died trying. 15 00:00:43,711 --> 00:00:48,749 Today the gold could be worth over $200 million. 16 00:00:48,849 --> 00:00:52,320 Also a story of love and murder in a remote Louisiana bayou. 17 00:00:52,420 --> 00:00:56,023 And illicit romance led to one man's death and a young woman's 18 00:00:56,124 --> 00:00:59,360 mysterious disappearance. 19 00:00:59,460 --> 00:01:02,062 From a murder discovered in the swamps of Louisiana through 20 00:01:02,163 --> 00:01:04,198 a treasure lost in an Arizona mountain range, 21 00:01:04,298 --> 00:01:06,434 our stories have one thing in common-- 22 00:01:06,534 --> 00:01:08,402 as yet, there is no solution. 23 00:01:08,502 --> 00:01:10,138 Perhaps you can help. 24 00:01:10,238 --> 00:01:11,205 Join me. 25 00:01:11,305 --> 00:01:13,574 You may be able to help solve a mystery. 26 00:02:04,925 --> 00:02:07,161 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): On a little-used suspension bridge 27 00:02:07,261 --> 00:02:09,663 outside Casper, Wyoming, residents 28 00:02:09,763 --> 00:02:12,366 reported seeing unexplained lights in the early morning 29 00:02:12,466 --> 00:02:17,338 hours of March the 26th, 1988. 30 00:02:17,438 --> 00:02:20,174 Police theorize that an unknown assailant, operating 31 00:02:20,274 --> 00:02:23,544 under cover of darkness, brought his victim, a young girl of 18, 32 00:02:23,644 --> 00:02:24,445 to the bridge. 33 00:02:30,150 --> 00:02:31,885 After stabbing her repeatedly, he 34 00:02:31,985 --> 00:02:34,555 threw her into the chill waters of the North Platte River. 35 00:02:45,833 --> 00:02:48,035 The victim was later identified as Lisa Marie 36 00:02:48,135 --> 00:02:50,738 Kimmel from Billings, Montana. 37 00:02:50,838 --> 00:02:53,674 She had been sexually assaulted prior to being killed, 38 00:02:53,774 --> 00:02:56,577 in a manner that suggested some kind of bizarre torture. 39 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:01,782 The savage nature of Lisa's murder 40 00:03:01,882 --> 00:03:05,219 is not the only perplexing aspect of this case. 41 00:03:05,319 --> 00:03:08,188 Lisa was last seen alive the night of March the 25th. 42 00:03:08,289 --> 00:03:09,523 Police believe that she was killed 43 00:03:09,623 --> 00:03:12,726 a few hours later in the early morning of March the 26th. 44 00:03:12,826 --> 00:03:14,828 But what complicates the investigation 45 00:03:14,928 --> 00:03:18,266 is that nearly 1,000 people claim they saw Lisa Marie 46 00:03:18,366 --> 00:03:21,168 Kimmel or her car during a week when police 47 00:03:21,269 --> 00:03:23,003 believe she was already dead. 48 00:03:28,342 --> 00:03:29,777 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Lisa was 18 years old 49 00:03:29,877 --> 00:03:31,545 and worked as a manager at a fast food 50 00:03:31,645 --> 00:03:34,181 restaurant in Denver, Colorado. 51 00:03:34,282 --> 00:03:37,451 On March the 25th, she left town and headed for Cody, Wyoming 52 00:03:37,551 --> 00:03:40,988 to visit her boyfriend. 53 00:03:41,088 --> 00:03:45,426 Lisa's car, a black 1988 Honda CRX SI, 54 00:03:45,526 --> 00:03:48,128 carried the spunky license plate Lil Miss. 55 00:03:51,231 --> 00:03:54,101 The plan was that she was supposed to leave Denver 56 00:03:54,201 --> 00:03:57,505 and, some time after work, and get to Cody to see 57 00:03:57,605 --> 00:03:59,307 me sometime late that evening. 58 00:03:59,407 --> 00:04:03,444 I talked to her about 4:30. 59 00:04:03,544 --> 00:04:05,212 And she was going to be leaving in about a half hour, 60 00:04:05,313 --> 00:04:08,081 that she'd be in about midnight or something like that. 61 00:04:08,181 --> 00:04:09,350 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): From Denver, 62 00:04:09,450 --> 00:04:11,552 Lisa had planned to travel to Casper, Wyoming 63 00:04:11,652 --> 00:04:14,322 on Interstate 25. 64 00:04:14,422 --> 00:04:16,357 From Casper she would take a two lane road 65 00:04:16,457 --> 00:04:19,259 to Ed Jaroch's house in Cody. 66 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:20,894 After spending the night there, she 67 00:04:20,994 --> 00:04:25,966 planned to go on to Billings, Montana to visit her parents. 68 00:04:26,066 --> 00:04:28,902 Weather conditions were good, so Lisa should have made the trip 69 00:04:29,002 --> 00:04:31,505 to Cody in eight or nine hours, arriving at Ed's 70 00:04:31,605 --> 00:04:34,174 house late Friday night. 71 00:04:34,274 --> 00:04:36,410 However at 7 o'clock Saturday morning, 72 00:04:36,510 --> 00:04:40,113 she still had not arrived. 73 00:04:40,213 --> 00:04:42,550 Ed Jaroch frantically telephoned the highway patrols 74 00:04:42,650 --> 00:04:44,785 in three states. 75 00:04:44,885 --> 00:04:46,920 Two days later, the Wyoming Highway Patrol 76 00:04:47,020 --> 00:04:49,122 reported they had stopped Lisa for speeding 77 00:04:49,222 --> 00:04:52,292 about 60 miles south of Casper on March 25, 78 00:04:52,393 --> 00:04:54,127 the night she disappeared. 79 00:04:54,227 --> 00:04:57,398 It was nearly 9:00 PM Friday night, four hours 80 00:04:57,498 --> 00:04:58,899 after Lisa had left Denver. 81 00:04:58,999 --> 00:05:00,868 She was right on schedule. 82 00:05:00,968 --> 00:05:03,971 I was patrolling southbound on March 25. 83 00:05:04,071 --> 00:05:07,841 I noted a small car northbound at 88 miles an hour, 84 00:05:07,941 --> 00:05:09,176 according to my radar. 85 00:05:09,276 --> 00:05:12,145 I turned around and pursued the car. 86 00:05:12,245 --> 00:05:14,548 I stopped her near Moran Junction. 87 00:05:19,853 --> 00:05:20,654 Good evening miss. 88 00:05:20,754 --> 00:05:21,722 May I see your driver's license? 89 00:05:21,822 --> 00:05:24,257 ALAN LESCO (VOICEOVER): She was well-kept, 90 00:05:24,358 --> 00:05:26,727 driving a nice car, kind of person you'd 91 00:05:26,827 --> 00:05:28,896 like to have for a daughter. 92 00:05:28,996 --> 00:05:30,498 OK Miss Kimmel, I had you on my radar 93 00:05:30,598 --> 00:05:32,900 back there at 88 miles an hour. 94 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,702 Is there any particular reason for your speed? 95 00:05:34,802 --> 00:05:36,103 I'm trying to hurry to Billings. 96 00:05:36,203 --> 00:05:38,572 I've got a friend who's going in for surgery. 97 00:05:38,672 --> 00:05:40,641 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): This was the last confirmed sighting 98 00:05:40,741 --> 00:05:42,042 of Lisa. 99 00:05:42,142 --> 00:05:44,978 Her signature on the citation and a routine voice recording 100 00:05:45,078 --> 00:05:46,947 the policeman made verify that it 101 00:05:47,047 --> 00:05:50,083 was definitely Lisa Marie Kimmel who was stopped that night. 102 00:05:53,353 --> 00:05:55,589 As the week went on, we realized 103 00:05:55,689 --> 00:05:57,224 the gravity of the situation. 104 00:06:01,128 --> 00:06:07,267 We knew that the outlook was looking a little grim. 105 00:06:07,367 --> 00:06:12,239 But even at that, even if the outcome wasn't as we'd hoped, 106 00:06:12,339 --> 00:06:13,807 we still needed to find her. 107 00:06:16,644 --> 00:06:17,678 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): On April 108 00:06:17,778 --> 00:06:20,548 the 2nd, one week after she disappeared, 109 00:06:20,648 --> 00:06:22,683 Greg Bradford, a mechanic who was spending 110 00:06:22,783 --> 00:06:25,953 his Saturday fishing, brought the search for Lisa Marie 111 00:06:26,053 --> 00:06:27,821 to a sad end. 112 00:06:27,921 --> 00:06:29,890 GREG BRADFORD: When I came up to just about 113 00:06:29,990 --> 00:06:33,393 this spot right here, and I got a real bad feeling 114 00:06:33,494 --> 00:06:36,029 something was wrong. 115 00:06:36,129 --> 00:06:40,000 I felt that somebody died or somebody was hurt real bad. 116 00:06:40,100 --> 00:06:41,735 It just kept coming over me. 117 00:06:41,835 --> 00:06:42,936 I couldn't shake it. 118 00:06:46,373 --> 00:06:48,208 So I just stepped up. 119 00:06:48,308 --> 00:06:50,410 When I stepped up off the side of the bank, 120 00:06:50,511 --> 00:06:55,516 I looked over my shoulder and I saw the lady in the water. 121 00:06:55,616 --> 00:06:57,284 I knew it was a lady in the water, 122 00:06:57,384 --> 00:07:01,021 but your mind tells you it's not true, you know, it's not real. 123 00:07:01,121 --> 00:07:03,557 And then I remember, when we were driving up from Cheyenne, 124 00:07:03,657 --> 00:07:06,960 they said this young girl was missing from Montana. 125 00:07:07,060 --> 00:07:12,399 So, I looked again and I said, "Oh my God, it must be her." 126 00:07:12,500 --> 00:07:14,968 When we went out there, the physical description 127 00:07:15,068 --> 00:07:16,303 matched Lisa. 128 00:07:16,403 --> 00:07:18,639 But at that point, because of the condition of the body, 129 00:07:18,739 --> 00:07:23,276 we weren't sure until we'd gotten her out of the water. 130 00:07:23,376 --> 00:07:26,413 We're not sure, at this point, whether the body 131 00:07:26,514 --> 00:07:31,284 was placed in the river sometime on the 25th of the 26th. 132 00:07:31,384 --> 00:07:33,821 The body just didn't show any signs of decomposition 133 00:07:33,921 --> 00:07:37,024 because it was so cold. 134 00:07:37,124 --> 00:07:39,493 There was some stab wounds in the chest area. 135 00:07:39,593 --> 00:07:41,995 She was sexually assaulted. 136 00:07:42,095 --> 00:07:46,567 She was found nearly nude, but not quite. 137 00:07:46,667 --> 00:07:50,437 They made stab wounds in such a manner that we feel are unique. 138 00:07:50,538 --> 00:07:52,906 And I can't tell you how they were done to the body, 139 00:07:53,006 --> 00:07:55,776 but it would lead the appearance that somebody 140 00:07:55,876 --> 00:07:59,412 took their time in doing this. 141 00:07:59,513 --> 00:08:01,281 It's hard to understand why somebody 142 00:08:01,381 --> 00:08:03,450 would do something like that to another human being. 143 00:08:06,086 --> 00:08:07,821 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Police scouted the area where 144 00:08:07,921 --> 00:08:09,690 Lisa's body was discovered. 145 00:08:09,790 --> 00:08:12,826 On an old highway bridge one quarter of a mile away, 146 00:08:12,926 --> 00:08:14,628 they found blood which was the same 147 00:08:14,728 --> 00:08:17,464 type as Lisa Marie Kimmel's. 148 00:08:17,565 --> 00:08:19,166 Because the bridge is so inaccessible 149 00:08:19,266 --> 00:08:22,269 and so seldom used, police believe the murderer 150 00:08:22,369 --> 00:08:25,072 may be someone local. 151 00:08:25,172 --> 00:08:27,675 Based on the eyewitness accounts of unexplained lights 152 00:08:27,775 --> 00:08:30,944 on the bridge and an analysis of other evidence, 153 00:08:31,044 --> 00:08:33,313 police believe the time of Lisa's murder 154 00:08:33,413 --> 00:08:36,449 is the early morning of Saturday, Match the 26th, 155 00:08:36,550 --> 00:08:41,488 approximately five hours after she was stopped for speeding. 156 00:08:41,589 --> 00:08:44,958 Strangely, the next seven days, hundreds of sightings of Lisa 157 00:08:45,058 --> 00:08:47,628 and her car, many of them involving 158 00:08:47,728 --> 00:08:50,030 an unknown male companion, were reported 159 00:08:50,130 --> 00:08:54,134 throughout the Northwestern United States and Canada. 160 00:08:54,234 --> 00:08:56,069 Up until this date we've had over a thousand 161 00:08:56,169 --> 00:09:00,040 sightings of this vehicle, a lot of them 162 00:09:00,140 --> 00:09:01,842 from law enforcement officers. 163 00:09:01,942 --> 00:09:03,677 But there's no pattern to them. 164 00:09:03,777 --> 00:09:04,645 That's the unfortunate part. 165 00:09:04,745 --> 00:09:05,879 There's no direction of travel. 166 00:09:05,979 --> 00:09:07,380 They went south. 167 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:08,415 They went to the north. 168 00:09:08,515 --> 00:09:09,516 They went to the west. 169 00:09:09,617 --> 00:09:11,018 They just were everywhere. 170 00:09:11,118 --> 00:09:12,853 And we were deluged with them at the point 171 00:09:12,953 --> 00:09:14,688 that we thought they had gone to Canada. 172 00:09:14,788 --> 00:09:17,190 We had some sightings in Canada. 173 00:09:17,290 --> 00:09:18,391 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Composites 174 00:09:18,491 --> 00:09:21,261 were made of at least 17 men, but none of them 175 00:09:21,361 --> 00:09:24,331 seemed to resemble one another closely enough to justify 176 00:09:24,431 --> 00:09:25,599 issuing a wanted poster. 177 00:09:28,501 --> 00:09:30,638 Three of these sightings believed to be among the most 178 00:09:30,738 --> 00:09:33,406 reliable were reported on the 26th and 27th 179 00:09:33,506 --> 00:09:36,443 of March, after police believe Lisa Marie 180 00:09:36,543 --> 00:09:38,712 had already been murdered. 181 00:09:38,812 --> 00:09:40,781 One of them was in Casper, just 20 minutes 182 00:09:40,881 --> 00:09:43,851 drive away from the place her body was found. 183 00:09:43,951 --> 00:09:46,053 The other two sightings were in Buffalo, Wyoming, 184 00:09:46,153 --> 00:09:49,623 two hours drive outside Casper. 185 00:09:49,723 --> 00:09:51,591 In none of the three sightings did Lisa appear 186 00:09:51,692 --> 00:09:54,728 to be signaling for help. 187 00:09:54,828 --> 00:09:56,463 The Casper sighting occurred on Sunday, 188 00:09:56,563 --> 00:09:58,666 March the 27th, two days after Lisa 189 00:09:58,766 --> 00:10:01,468 had been stopped for speeding. 190 00:10:01,568 --> 00:10:04,371 Diana Houston was driving a van through the downtown area 191 00:10:04,471 --> 00:10:07,507 of Caspar when she noticed the personalized Lil Miss license 192 00:10:07,607 --> 00:10:09,276 plates, because her roommate owned 193 00:10:09,376 --> 00:10:12,780 a puppy with the same name. 194 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:14,481 DIANA HOUSTON (VOICEOVER): It was Sunday afternoon, 195 00:10:14,581 --> 00:10:15,916 about a quarter to 2:00. 196 00:10:16,016 --> 00:10:19,619 And I saw a Montana license plate on a vehicle. 197 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,155 And being from Montana, it got my eyes. 198 00:10:22,255 --> 00:10:23,123 So I looked. 199 00:10:23,223 --> 00:10:24,692 And the license plate said Lil Miss. 200 00:10:27,227 --> 00:10:28,161 I went by. 201 00:10:28,261 --> 00:10:30,263 I saw somebody with blond hair driving 202 00:10:30,363 --> 00:10:33,166 an had on a yellow sweater. 203 00:10:33,266 --> 00:10:34,467 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): 22 Hours 204 00:10:34,567 --> 00:10:36,804 earlier, Donna Kirkpatrick, the County Sheriff's wife 205 00:10:36,904 --> 00:10:38,605 in Buffalo, reported that she had seen 206 00:10:38,706 --> 00:10:41,608 Lisa wearing a pink sweater. 207 00:10:41,709 --> 00:10:43,476 DONNA KIRKPATRICK: Well it was Saturday at noon. 208 00:10:43,576 --> 00:10:46,379 And I noticed a little black sports car had pulled 209 00:10:46,479 --> 00:10:49,449 out right in front of me. 210 00:10:49,549 --> 00:10:52,219 And then I noticed the license plate. 211 00:10:52,319 --> 00:10:55,322 It was a Montana license plate with Lil Miss on it, 212 00:10:55,422 --> 00:10:59,927 L-I-L M-I-S-S. And at that point I decided that I needed 213 00:11:00,027 --> 00:11:01,695 to see who was driving the car. 214 00:11:01,795 --> 00:11:04,397 I was most interested to see if the car went 215 00:11:04,497 --> 00:11:05,833 with whoever was driving it. 216 00:11:08,802 --> 00:11:12,139 I am absolutely positive there was a young gal driving it. 217 00:11:12,239 --> 00:11:13,473 I know the license plate. 218 00:11:13,573 --> 00:11:15,175 I know Montana license plates. 219 00:11:15,275 --> 00:11:19,246 I saw the plate on that car at that time on that day. 220 00:11:19,346 --> 00:11:22,182 And there's not a doubt in my mind. 221 00:11:22,282 --> 00:11:23,884 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Curiously, Lisa's parents 222 00:11:23,984 --> 00:11:25,986 are not sure that she ever owned either a yellow 223 00:11:26,086 --> 00:11:28,355 or a pink sweater. 224 00:11:28,455 --> 00:11:30,724 And the highway patrolman who stopped her for speeding, 225 00:11:30,824 --> 00:11:33,226 the last person to have verifiable evidence that he saw 226 00:11:33,326 --> 00:11:35,595 Lisa alive, remembers that she was wearing 227 00:11:35,695 --> 00:11:38,465 a black and white sweater. 228 00:11:38,565 --> 00:11:40,500 Could Lisa have changed her clothes? 229 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,903 Or do the eyewitnesses see another young woman 230 00:11:43,003 --> 00:11:45,906 who resembled Lisa? 231 00:11:46,006 --> 00:11:48,508 Two hours after Donna Kirkpatrick saw Lisa, 232 00:11:48,608 --> 00:11:52,645 another eyewitness also saw her in Buffalo. 233 00:11:52,746 --> 00:11:56,116 This time, a mysterious man was with Lisa. 234 00:11:56,216 --> 00:11:58,351 WITNESS (VOICEOVER): I was busy at the register. 235 00:11:58,451 --> 00:11:59,987 But a car pulled up. 236 00:12:00,087 --> 00:12:02,555 And they said Lil Miss on the Montana license plates 237 00:12:02,655 --> 00:12:03,623 on the front of it. 238 00:12:03,723 --> 00:12:05,592 And there were two people in the vehicle. 239 00:12:05,692 --> 00:12:08,762 There was a very attractive young lady at the wheel. 240 00:12:08,862 --> 00:12:11,098 The individual that was with here was a small man, 241 00:12:11,198 --> 00:12:14,367 I would say 135 to 140 pounds. 242 00:12:14,467 --> 00:12:17,537 Dark hair, dark eyes, rather large eyes. 243 00:12:17,637 --> 00:12:19,406 And he had very fine features. 244 00:12:19,506 --> 00:12:21,408 It wasn't button nosed or anything like that. 245 00:12:21,508 --> 00:12:24,845 They were aquiline, I think, is the word that the poets use. 246 00:12:24,945 --> 00:12:26,814 And he was swarthy complected. 247 00:12:26,914 --> 00:12:27,881 And he was small. 248 00:12:27,981 --> 00:12:29,116 He fit into the car. 249 00:12:29,216 --> 00:12:33,320 He didn't look out of place or anything like that. 250 00:12:33,420 --> 00:12:35,188 A few minutes later when I turned and looked again, 251 00:12:35,288 --> 00:12:36,824 the car had gone. 252 00:12:36,924 --> 00:12:38,691 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): If the three sightings of Lisa 253 00:12:38,792 --> 00:12:40,560 Marie Kimmel are reliable, they raise 254 00:12:40,660 --> 00:12:43,396 some disturbing questions. 255 00:12:43,496 --> 00:12:44,932 Was Lisa killed as the police think 256 00:12:45,032 --> 00:12:47,000 she was, during the early morning hours of March 257 00:12:47,100 --> 00:12:49,536 the 26th? 258 00:12:49,636 --> 00:12:52,572 If she was, who was the woman seen driving Lisa's 259 00:12:52,672 --> 00:12:55,242 car in Casper in Buffalo? 260 00:12:55,342 --> 00:12:57,177 If Lisa was not killed on the 26th, 261 00:12:57,277 --> 00:12:59,980 why was she in Buffalo, more than two hours off the course 262 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:01,849 of her planned journey? 263 00:13:01,949 --> 00:13:04,417 And if she was in jeopardy, why did she not signal 264 00:13:04,517 --> 00:13:07,821 for help when she was sighted? 265 00:13:07,921 --> 00:13:10,790 [music playing] 266 00:13:25,873 --> 00:13:27,875 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Next, the story of the legendary Lost 267 00:13:27,975 --> 00:13:29,009 Dutchman Mine. 268 00:13:29,109 --> 00:13:30,377 The clues are scarce. 269 00:13:30,477 --> 00:13:33,413 The stakes are high-- millions of dollars in gold. 270 00:13:47,127 --> 00:13:48,428 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The Superstition 271 00:13:48,528 --> 00:13:51,431 Mountains in Arizona cover 160,000 acres 272 00:13:51,531 --> 00:13:54,067 of desolate, rugged terrain. 273 00:13:54,167 --> 00:13:55,635 According to legend, these mountains 274 00:13:55,735 --> 00:13:57,504 contain the richest deposits of gold 275 00:13:57,604 --> 00:14:00,373 in America, the Lost Dutchman's Gold Mine. 276 00:14:06,479 --> 00:14:09,049 There are hundreds of stories hinting at its location. 277 00:14:09,149 --> 00:14:11,851 But they're all tied to one man, a German prospector 278 00:14:11,952 --> 00:14:13,853 named Jacob Waltz, who was said to have 279 00:14:13,954 --> 00:14:16,656 discovered the mine in 1876. 280 00:14:16,756 --> 00:14:18,191 His nickname was The Dutchman. 281 00:14:21,028 --> 00:14:24,097 TOM KOLLENBORN: Jacob Waltz was a student of mining, 282 00:14:24,197 --> 00:14:26,133 and he knew what he was doing. 283 00:14:26,233 --> 00:14:30,703 The old timers were very, very astute to the fact of geology. 284 00:14:30,803 --> 00:14:33,273 They knew what they were looking for. 285 00:14:33,373 --> 00:14:35,075 If you're going to go out in these mountains anywhere 286 00:14:35,175 --> 00:14:37,110 and look for gold, you really want to go to places 287 00:14:37,210 --> 00:14:38,245 where gold has been found. 288 00:14:38,345 --> 00:14:40,347 The Superstitions would be an exception. 289 00:14:40,447 --> 00:14:41,414 You wouldn't go in there. 290 00:14:45,752 --> 00:14:47,320 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Waltz was one of the few 291 00:14:47,420 --> 00:14:50,157 who was prepared to prospect in unpromising locations. 292 00:14:50,257 --> 00:14:51,824 And apparently, he was rewarded. 293 00:14:56,896 --> 00:15:00,800 15 Years later in 1881, when Jacob Waltz was 80 years old, 294 00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:03,336 he decided to hide his mine. 295 00:15:03,436 --> 00:15:06,139 He is said to have dug a hole six feet deep at the entrance 296 00:15:06,239 --> 00:15:08,575 to the mine. 297 00:15:08,675 --> 00:15:11,611 He then laid in two sold layers of ironwood logs, 298 00:15:11,711 --> 00:15:14,047 filled the hole with dirt, and topped it with stones 299 00:15:14,147 --> 00:15:15,048 from the surrounding area. 300 00:15:17,951 --> 00:15:19,252 The Dutchman bragged that you could 301 00:15:19,352 --> 00:15:21,621 drive a pack train over the entrance to the mine 302 00:15:21,721 --> 00:15:23,890 and never know it was there. 303 00:15:23,991 --> 00:15:27,427 For over 100 years, fortune hunters have searched for Jacob 304 00:15:27,527 --> 00:15:29,229 Waltz's hidden treasure trove. 305 00:15:34,434 --> 00:15:36,336 Several months after Waltz hid the mine, 306 00:15:36,436 --> 00:15:39,206 he contracted pneumonia and was taken to the home of a friend, 307 00:15:39,306 --> 00:15:42,042 Julia Thomas in Phoenix. 308 00:15:42,142 --> 00:15:44,844 She tried to nurse Jacob back to health. 309 00:15:44,944 --> 00:15:47,147 Before Jacob was died, he told them 310 00:15:47,247 --> 00:15:49,916 that there was gold from the mine stashed under his bed. 311 00:15:50,017 --> 00:15:51,318 Well I don't understand. 312 00:15:51,418 --> 00:15:53,686 And he said that's what I've been living on all these years. 313 00:15:53,786 --> 00:15:55,155 He took out the box. 314 00:15:55,255 --> 00:15:56,489 They opened it. 315 00:15:56,589 --> 00:15:58,725 And their comment was, "My God, that's rich. 316 00:15:58,825 --> 00:16:01,061 It's got to be just a pocket." 317 00:16:01,161 --> 00:16:02,162 And he said, "No, it isn't." 318 00:16:02,262 --> 00:16:03,930 He said, "It's a vein." 319 00:16:04,031 --> 00:16:05,665 He said, "There's enough in sight 320 00:16:05,765 --> 00:16:08,768 to make millionaires out of 20 men." 321 00:16:08,868 --> 00:16:10,337 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): As his end drew near, 322 00:16:10,437 --> 00:16:12,139 The Dutchman gave Julia and Rhinehart 323 00:16:12,239 --> 00:16:15,542 Petrasch a local miner, clues to the location of the mine. 324 00:16:15,642 --> 00:16:17,144 Take the old-- the old northwest corner 325 00:16:17,244 --> 00:16:19,546 of the Superstition Mountains. 326 00:16:19,646 --> 00:16:20,913 Take-- take the trail in. 327 00:16:21,014 --> 00:16:24,184 And he left a number of clues, but several times he 328 00:16:24,284 --> 00:16:27,487 said, "I've almost got to show you where it is 329 00:16:27,587 --> 00:16:30,023 or you'll never find it, because you've got 330 00:16:30,123 --> 00:16:32,525 to know exactly where it is." 331 00:16:32,625 --> 00:16:33,726 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Waltz died 332 00:16:33,826 --> 00:16:35,295 before he could give them a map that showed 333 00:16:35,395 --> 00:16:38,098 exactly where the mine lay. 334 00:16:38,198 --> 00:16:40,767 Even though there are hundreds of maps in existence today, 335 00:16:40,867 --> 00:16:42,635 none of them came from Jacob Waltz. 336 00:16:48,975 --> 00:16:51,278 The only direction that Julia and the Petrasch brothers 337 00:16:51,378 --> 00:16:53,313 had when they ventured into the mountains 338 00:16:53,413 --> 00:16:55,715 were the verbal cues Waltz had given on his deathbed. 339 00:16:58,285 --> 00:16:59,686 CLAY WORST (VOICEOVER): He said, "The setting 340 00:16:59,786 --> 00:17:02,855 sun shines into the entrance to my mine 341 00:17:02,955 --> 00:17:04,691 and glitters on the gold." 342 00:17:04,791 --> 00:17:07,427 So it must have faced to the west. 343 00:17:07,527 --> 00:17:09,162 He said, "You take the first gorge 344 00:17:09,262 --> 00:17:12,465 on the south side from the west end of the range." 345 00:17:12,565 --> 00:17:16,002 He said that "you can see Weavers Needle to the south 346 00:17:16,103 --> 00:17:19,472 from above my mine." 347 00:17:19,572 --> 00:17:23,143 Julia and the Petrasches were so anxious to get 348 00:17:23,243 --> 00:17:26,413 in the mountains, they actually went in mid-summer 349 00:17:26,513 --> 00:17:29,316 when the mountains were hotter than hell in a [inaudible]. 350 00:17:29,416 --> 00:17:33,153 And it must have been a real ordeal, for all of them. 351 00:17:36,055 --> 00:17:37,624 They went in there for almost five weeks. 352 00:17:37,724 --> 00:17:39,859 They came out without any gold. 353 00:17:39,959 --> 00:17:44,297 And this was noted in "The Arizona Republican" in 1892. 354 00:17:44,397 --> 00:17:48,635 In fact they called it "a queer quest" in search of gold. 355 00:17:48,735 --> 00:17:50,103 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Julia had invested 356 00:17:50,203 --> 00:17:52,205 everything she owned into this expedition, 357 00:17:52,305 --> 00:17:54,241 but she returned penniless. 358 00:17:54,341 --> 00:17:57,377 Julia Thomas never attempted to return to the Superstition 359 00:17:57,477 --> 00:18:00,480 Mountains again. 360 00:18:00,580 --> 00:18:03,350 Rhinehart Petrasch was accused by his brother Herman of not 361 00:18:03,450 --> 00:18:05,352 paying attention at Jacob's bedside, 362 00:18:05,452 --> 00:18:07,554 writing the clues down incorrectly. 363 00:18:07,654 --> 00:18:10,857 They never spoke again. 364 00:18:10,957 --> 00:18:12,825 Rhinehart continued to search sporadically 365 00:18:12,925 --> 00:18:14,694 over the next 50 years. 366 00:18:14,794 --> 00:18:16,796 When his eyesight began to fail, Rhinehart 367 00:18:16,896 --> 00:18:20,300 realized he would never find the mine and took his own life. 368 00:18:29,176 --> 00:18:30,810 For over a century, treasure hunters 369 00:18:30,910 --> 00:18:32,312 have occasionally claimed that they have 370 00:18:32,412 --> 00:18:34,247 clues to Waltz's lost mine. 371 00:18:34,347 --> 00:18:37,116 And a few of them may even have found it. 372 00:18:37,217 --> 00:18:39,886 But curiously, they all died before they 373 00:18:39,986 --> 00:18:42,655 could tell their tale. 374 00:18:42,755 --> 00:18:43,990 When we return, the story of Walt 375 00:18:44,090 --> 00:18:47,560 Gassler, who five years ago claimed he'd found the mine. 376 00:18:47,660 --> 00:18:48,928 On his last trip to the mountains, 377 00:18:49,028 --> 00:18:51,998 he lost his life before he could reveal his secret location. 378 00:18:55,768 --> 00:18:57,570 The Lost Dutchman's Gold Mine is 379 00:18:57,670 --> 00:18:58,905 one of the greatest living legends 380 00:18:59,005 --> 00:19:01,140 of the American Southwest. 381 00:19:01,241 --> 00:19:04,511 Some people say that it's just that, a legend. 382 00:19:04,611 --> 00:19:05,912 On the other hand, government studies 383 00:19:06,012 --> 00:19:08,515 indicate that there's a large quantity of gold located 384 00:19:08,615 --> 00:19:11,050 somewhere in the Superstitions. 385 00:19:11,150 --> 00:19:13,253 It is said that this matchbox was made 386 00:19:13,353 --> 00:19:15,121 from the high grade ore that Jacob Waltz had 387 00:19:15,222 --> 00:19:17,557 in his possession when he died. 388 00:19:17,657 --> 00:19:20,827 The ore is so rich that if the mine were found today, 389 00:19:20,927 --> 00:19:22,729 it could be worth over $200 million. 390 00:19:25,498 --> 00:19:26,766 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Almost 100 years 391 00:19:26,866 --> 00:19:28,901 later, a modern day treasure hunter 392 00:19:29,001 --> 00:19:30,770 claimed he had found the mine. 393 00:19:33,606 --> 00:19:36,609 His name was Walt Gassler, head chef at the Biltmore 394 00:19:36,709 --> 00:19:38,778 Hotel in Phoenix. 395 00:19:38,878 --> 00:19:42,315 Using clues handed down from Jacob's deathbed description, 396 00:19:42,415 --> 00:19:44,284 Gassler has spent most of his free time 397 00:19:44,384 --> 00:19:45,752 looking for the famous ore. 398 00:19:48,755 --> 00:19:50,122 - Bob Corbin Walt. - Walt Gassler. 399 00:19:50,223 --> 00:19:51,324 Nice to meet you. Have a seat. 400 00:19:51,424 --> 00:19:52,659 Thank you. 401 00:19:52,759 --> 00:19:54,093 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): When his health began to fail, 402 00:19:54,193 --> 00:19:55,728 he contacted two other prospectors. 403 00:19:55,828 --> 00:19:56,796 What you got? 404 00:19:56,896 --> 00:19:58,030 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): One of them 405 00:19:58,130 --> 00:20:00,600 was Bob Corbin, the attorney general of Arizona. 406 00:20:00,700 --> 00:20:03,069 This is a map to the area where I have my camp. 407 00:20:03,169 --> 00:20:04,971 BOB CORBIN (VOICEOVER): He wanted to get together with me 408 00:20:05,071 --> 00:20:06,539 so that we could perhaps go with him 409 00:20:06,639 --> 00:20:09,709 and continue looking for the mine with his directions 410 00:20:09,809 --> 00:20:11,043 after he had died. 411 00:20:11,143 --> 00:20:13,012 And he gave me his notes, as well as 412 00:20:13,112 --> 00:20:15,382 a map as to where his camp was and where 413 00:20:15,482 --> 00:20:17,384 he believed the mine to be. 414 00:20:17,484 --> 00:20:18,285 That's a good location. 415 00:20:18,385 --> 00:20:20,052 It could be there. 416 00:20:20,152 --> 00:20:21,488 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Two months later, 417 00:20:21,588 --> 00:20:23,290 Gassler called Bob's partner, Tom 418 00:20:23,390 --> 00:20:25,892 Kollenborn, a local historian. 419 00:20:25,992 --> 00:20:28,495 Gassler was excited and claimed that he had finally 420 00:20:28,595 --> 00:20:30,563 located The Dutchman's mine. 421 00:20:30,663 --> 00:20:31,898 TOM KOLLENBORN (VOICEOVER): Walt Gassler 422 00:20:31,998 --> 00:20:33,866 call me on Sunday evening. 423 00:20:33,966 --> 00:20:36,068 He said, "I'm going to the mine. 424 00:20:36,168 --> 00:20:38,037 I know exactly where it is. 425 00:20:38,137 --> 00:20:39,772 You and Corbin have to go." 426 00:20:39,872 --> 00:20:42,609 I just can't possibly break away in the morning. 427 00:20:42,709 --> 00:20:44,577 I could if you'd just give me a little bit of notice. 428 00:20:44,677 --> 00:20:46,045 I'd sure want to go in with you. 429 00:20:46,145 --> 00:20:46,846 TOM KOLLENBORN (VOICEOVER): He said, 430 00:20:46,946 --> 00:20:47,647 no, I can't wait any longer. 431 00:20:47,747 --> 00:20:48,781 I'm going to to it. 432 00:20:48,881 --> 00:20:50,883 And I'll-- I'll-- I'll see you when I get back. 433 00:20:50,983 --> 00:20:52,118 But I'm leaving in the morning. 434 00:20:54,787 --> 00:20:56,022 TOM KOLLENBORN (VOICEOVER): Walt Gassler 435 00:20:56,122 --> 00:20:59,058 was convinced that the mine existed from the clues 436 00:20:59,158 --> 00:21:00,126 that he had. 437 00:21:00,226 --> 00:21:03,162 Some of those clues he would not reveal. 438 00:21:03,262 --> 00:21:05,765 And the next morning, his wife took him out to the trail 439 00:21:05,865 --> 00:21:07,166 and dropped him off. 440 00:21:07,266 --> 00:21:08,368 See you in three days. 441 00:21:08,468 --> 00:21:09,769 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Walt hiked 442 00:21:09,869 --> 00:21:15,508 alone into the Superstitions, never to be seen alive again. 443 00:21:15,608 --> 00:21:20,046 Three days later he was found dead by ranch hand Don Shade. 444 00:21:20,146 --> 00:21:23,516 An autopsy proved he had died of a heart attack. 445 00:21:23,616 --> 00:21:27,387 I don't have a license to talk like a coroner. 446 00:21:27,487 --> 00:21:31,558 I thought he was dead, probably, two to three days. 447 00:21:31,658 --> 00:21:33,993 He looked to me like a nice little old man 448 00:21:34,093 --> 00:21:38,765 that found a lovely place to give up the ghost. 449 00:21:38,865 --> 00:21:40,567 - Tom Kollenborn? - Yes? 450 00:21:40,667 --> 00:21:41,501 I'm Roland Gassler. 451 00:21:41,601 --> 00:21:42,835 How are you doing Roland? 452 00:21:42,935 --> 00:21:44,537 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): One month after Walt's death, 453 00:21:44,637 --> 00:21:46,339 Tom Kollenborn had a surprising visitor. 454 00:21:46,439 --> 00:21:48,274 TOM KOLLENORN (VOICEOVER): This man came over to my house. 455 00:21:48,375 --> 00:21:52,044 And he said he was Roland Gassler, Walt Gassler's son. 456 00:21:52,144 --> 00:21:53,880 And we were talking a few minutes. 457 00:21:53,980 --> 00:21:56,683 And he said, "Well, you know my dad found The Lost Dutchman's 458 00:21:56,783 --> 00:21:57,884 in the Superstitions. 459 00:21:57,984 --> 00:21:59,552 And he got out a piece of gold, showed it to me. 460 00:21:59,652 --> 00:22:01,053 Boy, that stuff really looks good. 461 00:22:01,153 --> 00:22:02,288 TOM KOLLENBORN (VOICEOVER): It looked 462 00:22:02,389 --> 00:22:04,557 very similar to the gold that allegedly 463 00:22:04,657 --> 00:22:06,459 came out of The Dutchman Mine. 464 00:22:06,559 --> 00:22:07,827 Where'd this come from? 465 00:22:07,927 --> 00:22:10,797 Came right straight out of my dad's backpack. 466 00:22:10,897 --> 00:22:14,534 Bob Corbin told me that you had a map that belonged to my dad. 467 00:22:14,634 --> 00:22:16,803 I wonder if you'd let me have that? 468 00:22:16,903 --> 00:22:19,338 TOM KOLLENBORN: Well I don't have the map anymore Roland. 469 00:22:19,439 --> 00:22:22,108 But I do have your dad's manuscript. 470 00:22:22,208 --> 00:22:23,443 Yes, that is my dad's. 471 00:22:23,543 --> 00:22:24,811 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Apparently Walt 472 00:22:24,911 --> 00:22:26,479 really had found the lost mine. 473 00:22:26,579 --> 00:22:28,548 And his son Roland planned to use the map 474 00:22:28,648 --> 00:22:31,884 and notes to retrace his father's steps. 475 00:22:31,984 --> 00:22:33,420 Well I knew that you'd be interested, 476 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,422 and I want to thank you for being cooperative on this. 477 00:22:35,522 --> 00:22:36,456 OK. Well, all right. 478 00:22:36,556 --> 00:22:37,557 - Well, see you later. - OK, bye. 479 00:22:40,126 --> 00:22:41,227 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Two months 480 00:22:41,327 --> 00:22:43,496 later as Tom was finishing a slide lecture, 481 00:22:43,596 --> 00:22:46,065 he was approached by another stranger who claimed he 482 00:22:46,165 --> 00:22:48,635 was Roland Gassler, Walt's son. 483 00:22:48,735 --> 00:22:49,636 Mr. Kollenborn? 484 00:22:49,736 --> 00:22:50,537 Yes? 485 00:22:50,637 --> 00:22:51,904 Hi, I'm Roland Gassler. 486 00:22:52,004 --> 00:22:53,740 I've been wanting to meet you for a long time now. 487 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,542 Well I've sure met several Roland Gasslers lately. 488 00:22:55,642 --> 00:22:56,709 Walt Gassler-- 489 00:22:56,809 --> 00:22:57,544 TOM KOLLENBORN (VOICEOVER): And I think my jaw 490 00:22:57,644 --> 00:22:58,811 dropped 10 foot to the ground. 491 00:22:58,911 --> 00:23:00,212 It wasn't the same guy. 492 00:23:00,312 --> 00:23:02,148 I said, "I oughta ask you for a driver's license or something." 493 00:23:02,248 --> 00:23:03,450 I said, "You're the second Roland 494 00:23:03,550 --> 00:23:07,219 Gassler I run into in the last couple of months." 495 00:23:07,319 --> 00:23:08,721 Sure looks like you're Roland Gassler. 496 00:23:08,821 --> 00:23:09,656 Yes sir. 497 00:23:09,756 --> 00:23:12,391 After meeting two Roland Gasslers, 498 00:23:12,492 --> 00:23:15,595 I wondered who was really Roland Gassler? 499 00:23:15,695 --> 00:23:17,296 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Who was the first man who 500 00:23:17,396 --> 00:23:19,966 claimed to be Roland Gassler? 501 00:23:20,066 --> 00:23:23,035 It appeared that he was an imposter who needed Walt's map 502 00:23:23,135 --> 00:23:25,738 so he could search for himself. 503 00:23:25,838 --> 00:23:28,407 But how had he gotten hold of the gold ore sample? 504 00:23:28,508 --> 00:23:29,609 It came right straight out of-- 505 00:23:29,709 --> 00:23:30,977 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): When Walt died, 506 00:23:31,077 --> 00:23:32,445 the sheriff's report listed a backpack 507 00:23:32,545 --> 00:23:34,013 among Walt's belongings. 508 00:23:34,113 --> 00:23:36,716 But the real Roland Gassler never received. 509 00:23:36,816 --> 00:23:39,786 Don Shade, the man who found Walt's body, 510 00:23:39,886 --> 00:23:42,321 also remembered seeing the backpack. 511 00:23:42,421 --> 00:23:45,191 And he said that there was a stranger in the area. 512 00:23:45,291 --> 00:23:46,926 DON SHADE (VOICEOVER): There was another man 513 00:23:47,026 --> 00:23:49,161 in the area at the time. 514 00:23:49,261 --> 00:23:53,132 When Tom Kollenborn later gave us a description of the man 515 00:23:53,232 --> 00:23:56,669 that came to him and showed him some gold, 516 00:23:56,769 --> 00:24:01,541 it jibed up with a man that we saw in here. 517 00:24:01,641 --> 00:24:03,510 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Some believe that the fake Roland 518 00:24:03,610 --> 00:24:06,479 Gassler may have been in the mountains when Walt died, 519 00:24:06,579 --> 00:24:09,682 and stolen the backpack with his precious ore. 520 00:24:09,782 --> 00:24:11,417 I'd like to belief Walt found it. 521 00:24:11,518 --> 00:24:13,620 He spent so many years looking for it. 522 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,155 And the last thing he would have done in his life before he died 523 00:24:16,255 --> 00:24:17,056 would have found the mine. 524 00:24:17,156 --> 00:24:20,059 I'd like to believe that. 525 00:24:20,159 --> 00:24:21,794 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): When Jacob Waltz died, 526 00:24:21,894 --> 00:24:24,697 he left a trunk of ore, a list of clues, 527 00:24:24,797 --> 00:24:27,534 and a legend of lost treasure which has captured the dreams 528 00:24:27,634 --> 00:24:29,636 of three generations. 529 00:24:29,736 --> 00:24:31,838 I have good reason to believe that The Dutchman's 530 00:24:31,938 --> 00:24:33,740 legend could be true. 531 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,743 I've seen the ore that was under his bed when he died. 532 00:24:36,843 --> 00:24:39,846 I've seen the assay report on it at a jewelry store in Phoenix 533 00:24:39,946 --> 00:24:41,814 which did exist at that time. 534 00:24:41,914 --> 00:24:44,183 And at today's gold prices, that ore would be 535 00:24:44,283 --> 00:24:47,253 worth over $2.2 million a ton. 536 00:24:47,353 --> 00:24:49,488 It's the richest gold ore I've ever seen in my life, 537 00:24:49,589 --> 00:24:51,591 and I've seen a lot of gold ore. 538 00:24:51,691 --> 00:24:54,861 This could have been Gassler's trick in the trail, 539 00:24:54,961 --> 00:24:56,228 because he's been up here on-- 540 00:24:56,328 --> 00:24:58,097 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The Department of the Interior 541 00:24:58,197 --> 00:25:00,299 reclassified the Superstition Mountains as a federally 542 00:25:00,399 --> 00:25:02,969 owned wilderness area. 543 00:25:03,069 --> 00:25:05,705 And if the mine were found, all the gold would have to be 544 00:25:05,805 --> 00:25:08,507 surrendered to the government. 545 00:25:08,608 --> 00:25:12,478 But this does not deter Tom Kollenborn and Bob Corbin. 546 00:25:12,579 --> 00:25:15,247 For them, the search for the Lost Dutchman Mine 547 00:25:15,347 --> 00:25:17,449 is a fascinating mystery and a tradition 548 00:25:17,550 --> 00:25:20,186 that keeps alive one of the most enduring legends 549 00:25:20,286 --> 00:25:21,688 of the American Southwest. 550 00:25:24,991 --> 00:25:27,126 In a moment, the story of two lovers who 551 00:25:27,226 --> 00:25:29,929 met secretly deep in the swamps of Louisiana. 552 00:25:30,029 --> 00:25:33,633 30 years ago, their illicit romance ended in murder. 553 00:25:33,733 --> 00:25:37,069 [gun shot] 554 00:25:52,384 --> 00:25:54,854 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The Louisiana bayou country-- 555 00:25:54,954 --> 00:25:57,690 surrounded by human swampland lies Lake Pontchartrain, 556 00:25:57,790 --> 00:26:00,693 just west of New Orleans. 557 00:26:00,793 --> 00:26:06,766 November 24, 1956, at 9:00 AM on a chill Saturday morning, 558 00:26:06,866 --> 00:26:08,968 a local hunter and his young son unintentionally 559 00:26:09,068 --> 00:26:11,203 surprised a pair of lovebirds in an isolated 560 00:26:11,303 --> 00:26:14,506 area known as Frenier Beach. 561 00:26:14,607 --> 00:26:15,608 What are they doing Daddy? 562 00:26:15,708 --> 00:26:16,508 Never you mind. 563 00:26:16,609 --> 00:26:17,409 Let's go. 564 00:26:23,482 --> 00:26:24,817 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The next morning, 565 00:26:24,917 --> 00:26:29,321 the two passed by the same spot and made a grisly discovery. 566 00:26:29,421 --> 00:26:30,690 The man they had surprised the day 567 00:26:30,790 --> 00:26:32,692 before lay dead of a gunshot wound 568 00:26:32,792 --> 00:26:34,927 in the front seat of the car. 569 00:26:35,027 --> 00:26:37,296 The woman was nowhere to be seen. 570 00:26:37,396 --> 00:26:39,398 The victim was identified as Thomas 571 00:26:39,498 --> 00:26:44,136 Hotard, a 46-year-old engineer from nearby Laplace. 572 00:26:44,236 --> 00:26:46,105 Authorities later determined that the woman who 573 00:26:46,205 --> 00:26:50,109 had been with him the day before was 31-year-old Audrey Moate, 574 00:26:50,209 --> 00:26:53,145 a divorced mother of three. 575 00:26:53,245 --> 00:26:56,916 She has not been seen for 32 years. 576 00:26:57,016 --> 00:26:58,550 JACK DEMPSEY: This was probably the largest 577 00:26:58,651 --> 00:27:00,820 case that ever hit the area. 578 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,254 It was all over New Orleans. 579 00:27:02,354 --> 00:27:04,123 It was all over Baton Rouge. 580 00:27:04,223 --> 00:27:06,092 Everybody was talking about, and they all wanted 581 00:27:06,192 --> 00:27:07,159 to know, where's the woman? 582 00:27:07,259 --> 00:27:08,527 Where did she disappear? 583 00:27:08,627 --> 00:27:09,862 Why did you disappear? 584 00:27:09,962 --> 00:27:10,763 Did they kill her? 585 00:27:10,863 --> 00:27:11,898 Did they bury her body? 586 00:27:11,998 --> 00:27:13,399 Did they throw her in a lake? 587 00:27:13,499 --> 00:27:15,367 Three months before this happened, 588 00:27:15,467 --> 00:27:18,337 my mother told my grandmother that "if anything happens 589 00:27:18,437 --> 00:27:21,307 to me, take the kids and get as far away from here 590 00:27:21,407 --> 00:27:22,508 as possible." 591 00:27:22,608 --> 00:27:25,377 Why would a 30-year-old-- 31-year-old woman 592 00:27:25,477 --> 00:27:32,318 in 1956 in a environmentally crime-free area say this? 593 00:27:32,418 --> 00:27:35,654 Three decades ago, the case of Thomas Hotard and Audrey Moate 594 00:27:35,755 --> 00:27:38,390 was one of the most publicized and sensational stories 595 00:27:38,490 --> 00:27:40,626 in modern Louisiana history. 596 00:27:40,727 --> 00:27:42,328 The case still provokes discussions 597 00:27:42,428 --> 00:27:44,797 among the old timers in the area. 598 00:27:44,897 --> 00:27:47,033 Most of those involved in the initial investigation 599 00:27:47,133 --> 00:27:49,501 have since passed away, but the mystery 600 00:27:49,601 --> 00:27:51,904 of the incident at Frenier Beach has remained 601 00:27:52,004 --> 00:27:55,674 to baffle the next generation. 602 00:27:55,775 --> 00:27:58,177 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The newspaper obituaries in 1956 603 00:27:58,277 --> 00:28:02,081 described Thomas Hotard as a quiet, hardworking family man, 604 00:28:02,181 --> 00:28:05,051 active in the church and with the Boy Scouts. 605 00:28:05,151 --> 00:28:07,419 He worked for a local chemical company. 606 00:28:07,519 --> 00:28:10,489 It was here in 1952 that he met Audrey Moate. 607 00:28:18,330 --> 00:28:19,866 Audrey was originally divorced mother 608 00:28:19,966 --> 00:28:22,802 15 years younger than Hotard. 609 00:28:22,902 --> 00:28:24,403 In addition to their work, the two 610 00:28:24,503 --> 00:28:25,738 shared an interest in scouting. 611 00:28:25,838 --> 00:28:28,340 They were often seen together in town organizing 612 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,643 their troop's activities. 613 00:28:31,744 --> 00:28:33,645 DEKKI MOATE: My mother was a woman 614 00:28:33,746 --> 00:28:35,247 that was way ahead of her time. 615 00:28:35,347 --> 00:28:38,851 She was a single parent in '56, and she 616 00:28:38,951 --> 00:28:43,823 was a kind of woman that was very loving, very giving. 617 00:28:43,923 --> 00:28:45,958 Perhaps she's the best friend I ever had. 618 00:28:50,329 --> 00:28:52,131 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Even though Thomas was married, 619 00:28:52,231 --> 00:28:54,000 he and Audrey fell in love. 620 00:28:54,100 --> 00:28:57,569 But their romance was a deeply held secret. 621 00:28:57,669 --> 00:29:00,306 Audrey told her family that she had to work every Saturday, 622 00:29:00,406 --> 00:29:02,174 but it was a lie. 623 00:29:02,274 --> 00:29:05,878 For two years Thomas Hotard kept the same schedule, 624 00:29:05,978 --> 00:29:08,480 telling his wife that he too was working on Saturday. 625 00:29:08,580 --> 00:29:10,817 Unbeknownst to both their families, 626 00:29:10,917 --> 00:29:15,988 Hotard and Audrey spent these stolen days together. 627 00:29:16,088 --> 00:29:16,989 Good now. 628 00:29:17,089 --> 00:29:18,490 Where have you been? 629 00:29:18,590 --> 00:29:21,928 DEKKI MOATE: I remember, we used to go on picnics together. 630 00:29:22,028 --> 00:29:23,129 He taught me how to develop film. 631 00:29:23,229 --> 00:29:26,198 He was there on my birthdays. 632 00:29:26,298 --> 00:29:27,399 I thought they were friends. 633 00:29:27,499 --> 00:29:30,569 I didn't realize they were lovers. 634 00:29:30,669 --> 00:29:32,338 I found out later when I read the newspaper accounts. 635 00:29:32,438 --> 00:29:35,374 But I just thought they were friends. 636 00:29:35,474 --> 00:29:37,176 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): On Saturday, November 25 637 00:29:37,276 --> 00:29:41,347 Thomas and Audrey met in the plaza around 7:30 AM, then 638 00:29:41,447 --> 00:29:43,582 drove together to their secluded lover's lane 639 00:29:43,682 --> 00:29:45,217 at the edge of Lake Pontchartrain. 640 00:29:45,317 --> 00:29:46,585 [music playing] 641 00:29:46,685 --> 00:29:50,356 (SINGING) Speed and slow. 642 00:29:50,456 --> 00:29:53,125 Rock a body to and fro. 643 00:29:53,225 --> 00:29:54,827 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Ironically, that Saturday 644 00:29:54,927 --> 00:29:57,129 was Audrey's birthday. 645 00:29:57,229 --> 00:29:58,297 It was a special day. 646 00:29:58,397 --> 00:30:00,332 And it was to end in tragedy. 647 00:30:00,432 --> 00:30:02,869 Police later estimated that by morning's end, 648 00:30:02,969 --> 00:30:05,404 Thomas Hotard had been shot to death, 649 00:30:05,504 --> 00:30:09,808 and Audrey Moate had vanished, apparently forever. 650 00:30:09,909 --> 00:30:13,012 (SINGING) Oh honey, finally we can make it 651 00:30:13,112 --> 00:30:15,181 if we take it sweet and slow. 652 00:30:26,392 --> 00:30:27,659 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): When the hunter 653 00:30:27,759 --> 00:30:30,196 made his grim discovery the next morning, 654 00:30:30,296 --> 00:30:32,831 he went straight to Percy Hebert, the sheriff of St. John 655 00:30:32,932 --> 00:30:35,167 the Baptist Parish. 656 00:30:35,267 --> 00:30:37,136 Hebert was the first to arrive at the scene. 657 00:30:40,439 --> 00:30:42,074 Hotard had been killed by a single shot 658 00:30:42,174 --> 00:30:45,044 from the 16 gauge shotgun, fired at point blank range 659 00:30:45,144 --> 00:30:48,547 through a side window. 660 00:30:48,647 --> 00:30:50,616 At first Sheriff Hebert thought that the missing 661 00:30:50,716 --> 00:30:55,087 woman had probably killed Hotard in a lover's spat. 662 00:30:55,187 --> 00:30:57,924 However, once he began to investigate the crime scene, 663 00:30:58,024 --> 00:31:02,528 he made some unusual discoveries. 664 00:31:02,628 --> 00:31:04,997 Scattered on the ground were the partial contents 665 00:31:05,097 --> 00:31:07,566 of a woman's purse. 666 00:31:07,666 --> 00:31:10,669 Inside the car he found the car keys still in the ignition, 667 00:31:10,769 --> 00:31:14,640 and women's clothes crumpled on the floorboard. 668 00:31:14,740 --> 00:31:17,243 From the articles of clothing that were found in the car, 669 00:31:17,343 --> 00:31:18,610 the only thing she could have been wearing 670 00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:20,379 was a bra and a slip. 671 00:31:20,479 --> 00:31:24,583 Her sweater, her underwear, her stockings, her shoes, skirt, 672 00:31:24,683 --> 00:31:26,885 all of that was in the car. 673 00:31:26,986 --> 00:31:29,055 The car had the bed made down in it. 674 00:31:29,155 --> 00:31:31,090 In other words, it was one of those old Nashes that had a bed 675 00:31:31,190 --> 00:31:33,892 that could be folded down. 676 00:31:33,993 --> 00:31:35,327 The evidence indicates that they were 677 00:31:35,427 --> 00:31:40,332 probably in the act of making love when the murder occurred. 678 00:31:40,432 --> 00:31:42,168 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): It appeared that the woman had 679 00:31:42,268 --> 00:31:44,703 tried to flee, spilling the contents of her purse 680 00:31:44,803 --> 00:31:46,572 in the process. 681 00:31:46,672 --> 00:31:49,308 50 yards from Hotard's car, Hebert found 682 00:31:49,408 --> 00:31:52,711 a pair of footprints made by small bare feet, 683 00:31:52,811 --> 00:31:54,746 probably Audrey's. 684 00:31:54,846 --> 00:31:58,450 Just behind them was a print of a man's heavy boot. 685 00:31:58,550 --> 00:32:00,452 Five feet away was an area where it appeared 686 00:32:00,552 --> 00:32:05,357 a scuffle had taken place, and a set of car keys was discovered. 687 00:32:05,457 --> 00:32:07,960 There was no other physical evidence, and no indication 688 00:32:08,060 --> 00:32:10,862 that the murderer had an accomplice. 689 00:32:10,963 --> 00:32:14,866 Significantly, the woman's purse itself was never found. 690 00:32:14,967 --> 00:32:17,603 It was not until 10 hours later that the authorities 691 00:32:17,703 --> 00:32:20,706 decided the missing woman definitely was Audrey Moate. 692 00:32:31,117 --> 00:32:34,786 At 7:30 that same Saturday night, Sheriff Hebert 693 00:32:34,886 --> 00:32:37,123 found Audrey's car parked next to the cafe 694 00:32:37,223 --> 00:32:38,190 where she had met Hotard. 695 00:32:42,361 --> 00:32:46,298 The keys found at the crime scene fit the ignition. 696 00:32:46,398 --> 00:32:49,501 In a box on the back seat, he found the verses of a song 697 00:32:49,601 --> 00:32:52,004 from a musical, "The King and I," hand-written 698 00:32:52,104 --> 00:32:54,473 by Audrey on a small file card. 699 00:32:54,573 --> 00:32:57,776 It read like an obituary for her secret, lost love affair. 700 00:33:00,479 --> 00:33:02,581 We kissed in the shadows. 701 00:33:02,681 --> 00:33:04,883 We hide from the moon. 702 00:33:04,983 --> 00:33:08,054 Our meetings are few and over too soon. 703 00:33:08,154 --> 00:33:12,291 We speak in whispers, afraid to be heard. 704 00:33:12,391 --> 00:33:15,827 When people are near, we speak not a word. 705 00:33:20,666 --> 00:33:21,933 JACK DEMPSEY: This was quite a scandal. 706 00:33:22,034 --> 00:33:25,437 It was quite a shock to this sleepy little town of Laplace 707 00:33:25,537 --> 00:33:27,639 back in 1956. 708 00:33:27,739 --> 00:33:29,808 Everybody was buzzing, was talking about it. 709 00:33:29,908 --> 00:33:32,611 They all had their own theory of what happened. 710 00:33:32,711 --> 00:33:36,014 They all had idea of who could have committed the murder. 711 00:33:36,115 --> 00:33:39,418 They all had an idea of where Audrey Moate was. 712 00:33:39,518 --> 00:33:41,887 And they all wanted to help the sheriff 713 00:33:41,987 --> 00:33:44,690 because they saw a woman answering that description 714 00:33:44,790 --> 00:33:45,891 going door to door. 715 00:33:45,991 --> 00:33:48,427 And all kinds of confusion, believe me. 716 00:33:48,527 --> 00:33:51,930 Confusion reigned supreme about that time. 717 00:33:52,030 --> 00:33:54,400 [phone ringing] 718 00:33:54,500 --> 00:33:55,934 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): On December 6, 719 00:33:56,034 --> 00:33:57,703 two weeks after the disappearance, 720 00:33:57,803 --> 00:34:01,607 Audrey's former mother-in-law received a strange phone call. 721 00:34:01,707 --> 00:34:03,609 Perhaps Audrey was still alive. 722 00:34:03,709 --> 00:34:04,510 Hello? 723 00:34:04,610 --> 00:34:05,944 WOMAN (ON PHONE): Mom? 724 00:34:06,044 --> 00:34:06,978 Audrey? 725 00:34:07,079 --> 00:34:08,747 WOMAN (ON PHONE): Mom, I'm in trouble. 726 00:34:08,847 --> 00:34:09,715 Audrey, is that you? 727 00:34:09,815 --> 00:34:10,849 WOMAN (ON PHONE): I need help. 728 00:34:10,949 --> 00:34:12,784 Audrey? 729 00:34:12,884 --> 00:34:13,919 Audrey? 730 00:34:14,019 --> 00:34:14,820 Audrey? 731 00:34:16,722 --> 00:34:17,989 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Then a waitress 732 00:34:18,090 --> 00:34:20,126 in New Orleans reported that she had seen Audrey 733 00:34:20,226 --> 00:34:21,827 in her restaurant around the same time 734 00:34:21,927 --> 00:34:23,829 that Mrs. Moate received the phone call. 735 00:34:23,929 --> 00:34:24,730 Here you go. 736 00:34:24,830 --> 00:34:26,064 Will be there anything else hun? 737 00:34:26,165 --> 00:34:27,099 No. 738 00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:28,134 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The waitress 739 00:34:28,234 --> 00:34:29,135 said she recognized Audrey from seeing 740 00:34:29,235 --> 00:34:31,437 her picture in the paper. 741 00:34:31,537 --> 00:34:35,574 Audrey appeared to be very tired and her clothes were shabby. 742 00:34:35,674 --> 00:34:37,809 Audrey then left the restaurant when she realized 743 00:34:37,909 --> 00:34:39,945 the waitress was watching her. 744 00:34:40,045 --> 00:34:42,681 This is the last reported sighting of Audrey Moate. 745 00:34:46,418 --> 00:34:49,921 DEKKI MOATE: I couldn't let myself believe she was gone. 746 00:34:50,021 --> 00:34:53,459 I kept thinking she'd walk through the door. 747 00:34:53,559 --> 00:34:57,229 I couldn't relate to Mr. Hotard being dead, at all. 748 00:34:57,329 --> 00:34:59,165 That didn't register. 749 00:34:59,265 --> 00:35:02,100 But my mother not coming back, I-- I thought 750 00:35:02,201 --> 00:35:04,136 everyone was lying to me. 751 00:35:04,236 --> 00:35:05,137 I just couldn't accept it. 752 00:35:07,606 --> 00:35:09,074 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): As the years went by, 753 00:35:09,175 --> 00:35:11,777 the sensational story slipped slowly from the headlines, 754 00:35:11,877 --> 00:35:15,481 and eventually disappeared from the newspapers. 755 00:35:15,581 --> 00:35:18,116 The murder of Thomas Hotard and the disappearance of Audrey 756 00:35:18,217 --> 00:35:22,120 Moate soon became an obscure footnote in Louisiana folklore, 757 00:35:22,221 --> 00:35:24,823 until the case was suddenly revived 758 00:35:24,923 --> 00:35:28,059 more than 20 years later. 759 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,796 In 1980, a sick and ailing old man 760 00:35:30,896 --> 00:35:35,367 told his family that he knew what happened to Audrey Moate. 761 00:35:35,467 --> 00:35:38,237 You remember that Hotard fellow, what got killed 762 00:35:38,337 --> 00:35:41,473 in the swamp, that big search for everybody, looking around, 763 00:35:41,573 --> 00:35:44,776 never did find out who killed him, and that Moate women, 764 00:35:44,876 --> 00:35:48,013 what they never found? 765 00:35:48,113 --> 00:35:49,915 There ain't nothing in that swamp 766 00:35:50,015 --> 00:35:52,751 that goes on that I don't know. 767 00:35:52,851 --> 00:35:54,586 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Several months before he die, 768 00:35:54,686 --> 00:35:57,889 Ernst Acosta made a startling confession. 769 00:35:57,989 --> 00:36:00,659 He claimed that his common law wife at the time, Caroline 770 00:36:00,759 --> 00:36:05,431 Schlesser had murdered both Thomas Hotard and Audrey Moate, 771 00:36:05,531 --> 00:36:07,366 and that he had helped dispose of the bodies. 772 00:36:07,466 --> 00:36:08,967 And they were aggravating her. 773 00:36:09,067 --> 00:36:11,169 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Caroline died in 1979. 774 00:36:11,270 --> 00:36:15,241 And it was Caroline who had shot both those two. 775 00:36:15,341 --> 00:36:19,378 [train whistle] 776 00:36:19,478 --> 00:36:20,912 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Acosta and Schlesser 777 00:36:21,012 --> 00:36:23,782 lived on the edge of the swamp, less than a mile from 778 00:36:23,882 --> 00:36:26,285 the Frenier Beach murder site. 779 00:36:26,385 --> 00:36:28,487 Both had surly reputations. 780 00:36:28,587 --> 00:36:30,722 And Acosta was known to sit in his front yard 781 00:36:30,822 --> 00:36:32,891 and take pot shots at any passers-by that 782 00:36:32,991 --> 00:36:36,562 strayed too close to the house. 783 00:36:36,662 --> 00:36:40,165 MARVILLE CARONNA: My father was a very mean person. 784 00:36:40,266 --> 00:36:43,302 He had no respect for nobody. 785 00:36:43,402 --> 00:36:47,339 And if you would come up to him and ask him anything, 786 00:36:47,439 --> 00:36:49,074 he wouldn't answer you. 787 00:36:49,174 --> 00:36:54,012 He would grab the gun, show it to you, and then tell you, 788 00:36:54,112 --> 00:36:56,147 "What the hell you want?" 789 00:36:56,248 --> 00:37:01,119 And then if he didn't like what you wanted, or what you said, 790 00:37:01,219 --> 00:37:05,324 he would tell you, "Hit the road Jack." 791 00:37:05,424 --> 00:37:07,726 Caroline was in the same manner. 792 00:37:07,826 --> 00:37:12,498 She slept with a gun underneath her pillow at all times. 793 00:37:12,598 --> 00:37:16,735 And she was another person that the gun would come first. 794 00:37:16,835 --> 00:37:18,136 I always go in town-- 795 00:37:18,236 --> 00:37:19,638 MARVILLE CARONNA (VOICEOVER): She would ask questions later. 796 00:37:19,738 --> 00:37:21,773 Because next week I don't want them kids here. 797 00:37:21,873 --> 00:37:22,674 I don't want them around. 798 00:37:22,774 --> 00:37:23,975 I don't want them underfoot. 799 00:37:24,075 --> 00:37:25,644 ERNST ACOSTA: You don't want them kids here next week? 800 00:37:25,744 --> 00:37:27,012 No, I don't want them. 801 00:37:27,112 --> 00:37:29,247 MARVILLE CARONNA (VOICEOVER): They were the perfect pair. 802 00:37:29,348 --> 00:37:32,318 They were two of a kind. 803 00:37:32,418 --> 00:37:33,552 And they loved guns. 804 00:37:44,095 --> 00:37:45,397 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Marville Caronna 805 00:37:45,497 --> 00:37:47,366 claims to know of at least two occasions 806 00:37:47,466 --> 00:37:50,969 where Hotard and Audrey came to the house. 807 00:37:51,069 --> 00:37:54,072 Both times they apparently argued with Caroline, 808 00:37:54,172 --> 00:37:57,743 but no one knows why. 809 00:37:57,843 --> 00:37:59,177 MARVILLE CARONNA (VOICEOVER): My father 810 00:37:59,277 --> 00:38:04,616 said that they knew something about Mrs. Caroline Schlesser. 811 00:38:04,716 --> 00:38:06,117 What you want here Hotard? 812 00:38:06,217 --> 00:38:07,519 We don't want any trouble. 813 00:38:07,619 --> 00:38:09,054 MARVILLE CARONNA (VOICEOVER): What they knew, I do not know. 814 00:38:09,154 --> 00:38:10,422 We ain't go nothing to talk about boy. 815 00:38:10,522 --> 00:38:11,623 THOMAS HOTARD: Now Miss Caroline-- 816 00:38:11,723 --> 00:38:12,991 MARVILLE CARONNA (VOICEOVER): According to him, 817 00:38:13,091 --> 00:38:18,163 Mrs. Moate was related to Mrs. Schlesser some kind of way. 818 00:38:18,263 --> 00:38:19,064 All right, make sure. 819 00:38:19,164 --> 00:38:20,899 This is the last time boy. 820 00:38:20,999 --> 00:38:22,734 Come on. 821 00:38:22,834 --> 00:38:24,436 And you better watch your manners. 822 00:38:24,536 --> 00:38:26,338 And don't talk that trash talk in my house. 823 00:38:26,438 --> 00:38:27,539 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The night 824 00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:29,708 before the body was found, Marville says her father 825 00:38:29,808 --> 00:38:32,378 was away visiting his children. 826 00:38:32,478 --> 00:38:35,113 Apparently Caroline phoned him, and he rushed home. 827 00:38:35,213 --> 00:38:37,383 [wolf howl] 828 00:38:46,358 --> 00:38:48,394 Acosta told his daughter that both Hotard 829 00:38:48,494 --> 00:38:49,961 and Moate had actually been killed 830 00:38:50,061 --> 00:38:52,898 by Caroline in the house. 831 00:38:52,998 --> 00:38:54,299 He claimed that he and a neighbor 832 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,968 carried Hotard's body back to Frenier Beach 833 00:38:57,068 --> 00:39:00,138 and placed it in the car. 834 00:39:00,238 --> 00:39:03,775 They then tied Audrey's body to an old Civil War cannon 835 00:39:03,875 --> 00:39:04,876 and dumped it in the swamp. 836 00:39:07,646 --> 00:39:08,747 DEKKI MOATE (VOICEOVER): I told him, 837 00:39:08,847 --> 00:39:11,182 I said "Daddy, how could you all have 838 00:39:11,282 --> 00:39:14,920 killed Mrs. Moate and Mr. Hotard?", 839 00:39:15,020 --> 00:39:19,525 because Mr. Hotard was killed in the car. 840 00:39:19,625 --> 00:39:22,828 He said, "Believe what you want to believe. 841 00:39:22,928 --> 00:39:27,065 I'm telling you what happened." 842 00:39:27,165 --> 00:39:29,635 I brought Miss Caronna to the sheriff's office, 843 00:39:29,735 --> 00:39:33,304 and she was given a lie detector test on everything 844 00:39:33,405 --> 00:39:34,706 that she said. 845 00:39:34,806 --> 00:39:36,107 And she passed it. 846 00:39:36,207 --> 00:39:39,377 It said that she was telling the truth. 847 00:39:39,478 --> 00:39:40,779 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Wayne Norwood 848 00:39:40,879 --> 00:39:43,482 joined the sheriff's department of St. John the Baptist Parish 849 00:39:43,582 --> 00:39:45,717 in 1983. 850 00:39:45,817 --> 00:39:47,753 He heard about the Hotard-Moate case 851 00:39:47,853 --> 00:39:50,121 and became intrigued by it. 852 00:39:50,221 --> 00:39:52,991 For the past five years, he has conducted an unofficial 853 00:39:53,091 --> 00:39:56,327 investigation on his own time. 854 00:39:56,428 --> 00:39:58,630 Right on the other side of the track right 855 00:39:58,730 --> 00:40:00,466 at the edge of the swamp is where the old Acosta 856 00:40:00,566 --> 00:40:01,767 house used to be. 857 00:40:01,867 --> 00:40:04,936 And according to Miss Marville, about where you see 858 00:40:05,036 --> 00:40:09,140 the big cypress stump is about where the cannon used to sit. 859 00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:11,577 And we hope to go back in there a little 860 00:40:11,677 --> 00:40:14,345 later on when the water goes down and do some more diving. 861 00:40:14,446 --> 00:40:16,448 Hopefully we'll find something then. 862 00:40:16,548 --> 00:40:17,816 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Wayne Norwood 863 00:40:17,916 --> 00:40:20,786 is convinced Audrey's body was indeed thrown into the swamp 864 00:40:20,886 --> 00:40:22,654 tied to a cannon. 865 00:40:22,754 --> 00:40:26,157 And he has combed the area with a metal detector. 866 00:40:26,257 --> 00:40:28,660 But he believes Acosta may have worked the truth 867 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,229 when he told his daughter the other crucial details 868 00:40:31,329 --> 00:40:33,965 of that night. 869 00:40:34,065 --> 00:40:37,002 WAYNE NORWOOD: Mr. Acosta said that his wife 870 00:40:37,102 --> 00:40:39,137 had actually done the killing and that he 871 00:40:39,237 --> 00:40:41,372 had helped hide the body. 872 00:40:41,473 --> 00:40:44,275 But this is one of the things that I disagree with. 873 00:40:44,375 --> 00:40:49,347 I think that this was his way of telling what had happened 874 00:40:49,447 --> 00:40:52,150 but not letting the kids know that he 875 00:40:52,250 --> 00:40:55,721 actually did the murder, just relieving his conscience. 876 00:40:55,821 --> 00:40:57,756 I think this was his way of doing it. 877 00:41:02,561 --> 00:41:07,265 I would imagine since he watched the area back there real close 878 00:41:07,365 --> 00:41:09,768 and he run hunters off all the time 879 00:41:09,868 --> 00:41:12,337 that he had to know what was going on because people had 880 00:41:12,437 --> 00:41:15,106 seen this automobile, and a man and woman, 881 00:41:15,206 --> 00:41:19,511 park back there every Saturday just like clockwork. 882 00:41:28,386 --> 00:41:31,289 My theory is that he had been watching them. 883 00:41:31,389 --> 00:41:33,959 And this particular time that he was watching them, 884 00:41:34,059 --> 00:41:36,662 and probably got excited. 885 00:41:36,762 --> 00:41:38,429 And I think it was a sex crime. 886 00:42:02,153 --> 00:42:04,690 It had to be sheer panic. 887 00:42:04,790 --> 00:42:07,492 It had to be intense fear. 888 00:42:07,593 --> 00:42:12,430 I mean, to watch your lover get his head blown off, 889 00:42:12,530 --> 00:42:15,266 and then fear for your own life, I'm sure. 890 00:42:21,973 --> 00:42:23,975 WAYNE NORWOOD: He only lived about a mile 891 00:42:24,075 --> 00:42:26,044 from the murder scene. 892 00:42:26,144 --> 00:42:30,415 There were no tire marks, according to the investigation. 893 00:42:30,515 --> 00:42:36,187 And, he only had to take her about a mile to the house. 894 00:42:36,287 --> 00:42:38,123 So this would be why there was no tracks 895 00:42:38,223 --> 00:42:39,925 and a quick disappearance. 896 00:42:48,967 --> 00:42:50,035 ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The scene 897 00:42:50,135 --> 00:42:51,703 of the crime has changed considerably 898 00:42:51,803 --> 00:42:55,707 since that tragic Saturday morning in 1956. 899 00:42:55,807 --> 00:42:59,645 The actual spot where Thomas Hotard died is now 100 yards 900 00:42:59,745 --> 00:43:03,581 offshore, reclaimed by the waters of Lake Pontchartrain. 901 00:43:03,682 --> 00:43:05,516 And Audrey Moate? 902 00:43:05,617 --> 00:43:08,319 Her fate remains a mystery hidden in the murky 903 00:43:08,419 --> 00:43:09,955 swamp surrounding the lake. 904 00:43:13,191 --> 00:43:14,525 DEKKI MOATE (VOICEOVER): I think it's always 905 00:43:14,626 --> 00:43:19,931 going to be in the back of my mind, in my heart, 906 00:43:20,031 --> 00:43:23,601 to want to know what happened. 907 00:43:23,702 --> 00:43:28,573 I hope that whatever happened, that it 908 00:43:28,674 --> 00:43:31,710 was correct, that she didn't suffer, 909 00:43:31,810 --> 00:43:34,846 that she wasn't put through a lot. 910 00:43:34,946 --> 00:43:36,915 But I need to know. 911 00:43:56,401 --> 00:43:58,536 For every mystery there is someone, 912 00:43:58,636 --> 00:44:00,706 somewhere who knows the truth. 913 00:44:00,806 --> 00:44:02,040 Perhaps that someone was watching. 914 00:44:02,140 --> 00:44:05,043 Perhaps it's you. 915 00:44:05,143 --> 00:44:08,680 [music playing] 72887

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