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The Carmichael Show is recorded
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in front of a live
studio audience.
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Me first, Mama. Now,
after years of trying
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and failing and
trying again,
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I finally found you
the perfect birthday gift.
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Okay, Bobby,
don't put too much on it.
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Ooh. Luther Vandross's
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entire box set.
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Vanilla scented candles,
some bubble bath.
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Ooh, and some chocolate covered
strawberries.
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Oh, Bobby, these
are great gifts
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if you're trying to
seduce our mother.
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Look, Jerrod, diminishing
sex life in elderly couples
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is the number one
cause of divorce.
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Is that what you want?
Sexless divorced parents?
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See, that's why Bobby,
you my favorite.
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You're not only my son,
but you my wingman.
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Body oil.
Ooh.
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I can't wait
for your birthday
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to turn into
your birth‐night.
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(laughs)
Come here, girl.
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(smooches)
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Boys,
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we might just give you
a little brother
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on this couch.
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(laughs)
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Sorry.
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All right,
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happy birthday,
Cynthia.
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We wanted to be sure to get you
something really special.
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Oh, look at
this fancy bag.
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It's all shiny
and metallic.
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I like it so far.
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What is this?
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This is a limited
first edition hardcover
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of Jacqueline Kennedy's
biography.
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MAXINE: Yeah, you know, 'cause
you're always talking about
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how pretty she was
and how much you admire her.
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I don't understand.
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Have I wronged
you in some way?
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(laughs):
What? No.
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You know what would be a better
gift than that? A Kindle.
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See, while you're pretending
to read, you can enjoy the apps,
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the games, the e‐mails,
and more.
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Oh.
Yes, a Kindle
can do it all.
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And I heard that you
can even watch movies
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on those things now.
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Oh, can you imagine
me with a Kindle?
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Oh, some day.
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Sure, Kindles are fine, but
what's wrong with a book?
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Jerrod, don't make me
say that out loud.
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Say what out loud?
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You really gonna make her
say it out loud?
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On her birthday?
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Say what out loud?
What are you guys talking about?
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Look, Jerrod,
your gift is stupid...
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...because black people
don't read like that.
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Why do you make him say
these kind of things?
Mm‐hmm.
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Okay, you're joking, right?
'Cause that's the most
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racist thing
I've ever heard.
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(squeals):
Oh, Joe!
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You got me a Kindle
movie watcher.
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(laughs)
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Oh, I could
just cry.
(laughs)
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See, that's why I set
the Kindle up before, you know?
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I set my pins up
and I knock 'em down!
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♪ ♪
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You guys have the audacity
to say
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"black people
don't read like that"?
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W‐What does that even mean?
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Well, we read
some things.
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Like if I'm at the dentist's
office and my phone dies,
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I may scan through
a copy of Essence
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or read a pamphlet
on tooth decay.
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Yeah, look,
let's me honest, man.
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Black people didn't start
going to the library
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until the library got Internet.
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Facts.
Those are not facts.
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Okay, this is
incredibly insulting.
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Well, that's why black people
like The Cosby Show so much.
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It was just mystical seeing
all those people reading
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and being doctors.
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It took me to a
fantastical place
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I'd never been before.
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The Cosby Show
was my Star Wars.
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Uh, The Cosby Show
was supposed to be
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a realistic portrayal
of a black family.
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No...
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Is that what they
were going for?
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You think we proud of this?
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No, this is an embarrassment
that black people would rather
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sweep under the rug,
like Stacey Dash.
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Okay. This is all just a
offensive generalization.
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Black people read all the time.
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Jerrod reads, I read.
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Well, that's one
and a half black people.
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I mean, those are not
record‐breaking numbers, Maxine.
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And to be totally
honest, Maxine,
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I wasn't gonna even
read my birthday cards.
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Happy birthday,
Cynthia.
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Oh, thank you, Nekeisha.
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JERROD:
Nekeisha, Nekeisha, please,
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answer this question for us,
okay?
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How many black people
do you know that read?
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Uh, you mean, like,
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when they
don't have to?
Yes.
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Like, reading
just for fun?
Yes.
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You mean, like,
reading just to read?
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Yes, Nekeisha, reading
for the sake of reading.
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Mm, that's a tough one.
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Does Essence Magazine count?
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Told you.
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Th‐that's nothing
to be proud of.
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For all your bragging
about reading,
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your knowledge of black people
is on a fifth grade level.
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Yeah, Jerrod, why you acting
like this is news?
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Listen, there are some things
black people just don't do.
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No. No, no, Dad.
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We do not have a set of
rules we need to abide by.
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Sure we do.
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We don't ski.
Mm‐mm.
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We don't let dogs lick
all up on our faces.
Oh, no.
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And under no circumstances
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do we ever, ever
drive a Subaru.
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You know, they say dogs' mouths
are cleaner than humans,
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but I think white
people just saying that
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to justify their actions.
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See, there's all sorts
of rules, Jerrod.
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Like, you got to say
all black movies are good,
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even if they bad.
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Yeah, yeah. You got to
assume all cops are bad,
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even when they good.
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We don't like halibut.
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Well, we don't
eat halibut.
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Okay, no one eats halibut.
It's a very dry fish.
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Okay, sorry. I was just
getting a little frustrated.
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JERROD:
So, wait.
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You guys really want
to live in a world
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where black people
only do things
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other black
people approve of?
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Oh, I love black approval.
JOE: Yeah.
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Mm‐hmm. Nothing
wrong with that.
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See, Jerrod, these rules,
they have purpose.
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They bind us
as a community.
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They unite us against
the threat of a white culture
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that brought us here
as slaves.
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Dad, that's the most
eloquent explanation
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I've ever heard for not reading.
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You know, it would be nice if
we could just say what we think
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without black people getting
mad. Like this one time,
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when I went to
the hair salon,
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and I said Michelle
Obama should smile more,
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and the bitch cut
me with scissors.
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Mmm.
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JOE:
Well, now,
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if you gonna talk smack
about Michelle,
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prepare to get cut.
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JERROD:
No, Pop.
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Nekeisha should be able
to think and say
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whatever she wants
without judgment.
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We all should.
I mean, Ma,
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I know you got a
thought in there
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that black people
wouldn't approve of.
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I do, but I don't want
to say it out loud.
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Ooh, I wouldn't
mind hearing this.
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"Unpopular black thoughts."
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It sound like
a fun podcast.
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(scoffs) Cynthia,
you're in a safe place.
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No one here's
gonna judge you.
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Yeah, Ma, go ahead.
Free yourself.
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Fine.
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(clears throat)
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I don't think Denzel Washington
is that talented an actor.
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He just plays Denzel
in every movie.
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I'm just asking
for a little range.
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Look, Mom, wow,
you've been holding onto that.
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Yeah. I've got that
off my chest.
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I feel a lot lighter,
less stressed.
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(laughs)
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I bet you all this
suppression is what
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causes high blood pressure
in the black community.
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Who else has an unpopular
black thought?
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Bobby, I know
you got something.
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Are we doing this?
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Now, look, one day,
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there was a bunch of young black
dudes standing near my car.
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And you know what I did?
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I went back
in their Starbucks,
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got me a Peppermint
Hot Chocolate,
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and I waited
that thing out.
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Well, Bobby, that one was
definitely a little racist,
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but you got every
right to say it.
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You didn't see
them boys, Jerrod.
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Look, this is good.
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I feel like we're making
so much progress, right?
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You know what? Instead
of going to Niecy's,
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like we always do
for your birthday, Ma,
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let's go somewhere else.
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Every year, we go to Niecy's
for my birthday,
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ever since Coretta Scott King
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ate there
for her birthday, 1972.
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Niecy's is a staple
in the black community.
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But let's break the rules.
Niecy's will be there.
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We can go anywhere.
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We can even go to
Florentine's if you want.
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Florentine's?
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No...
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We can't eat at Florentine's.
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Could we?
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Why can't we?
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Because black people
don't eat there, that's why.
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We barely even drive
through the neighborhood.
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Come on, Dad. We got to
stop thinking like that.
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Florentine's is a
great restaurant.
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And you would like it
and it's Mom's birthday.
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You think we can even
get reservations?
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It's so last minute.
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Yeah. My buddy, Drew,
from high school,
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his family
owns the place.
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All I got to do
is text him.
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I'm sure he can
get us in.
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Oh, my God,
are we doing this?
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We are crossing
racial barriers
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that this family
has never crossed before.
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Oh, I know how
Sidney Poitier felt
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when he got that Oscar.
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Ooh!
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Now, that's an
actor with range.
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(sighs) I'm gonna go upstairs
and put on an even nicer outfit!
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I cannot believe
my little brother
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is getting us
into Florentine's.
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I knew you going to
the integrated high school
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would pay off some day.
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Yeah, I'm taking my
wife to Florentine's.
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You paying for
this, right?
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Oh, this place is nice!
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They keep their Christmas lights
up the whole year round.
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Man, Niecy's don't even
have a doorman.
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Mm, last time I was at Niecy's,
they didn't have a door.
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Any place where the employees
look happy makes me suspicious.
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Well, I want
to see the bathroom.
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I bet they have
granite countertops
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and those paper towels
that are more towels than paper.
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Baby, grab some of those
for the house, please.
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Okay, baby. I will.
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DREW:
Yo!
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Look at this guy.
What up, man?
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Hey, thanks so much for
getting us in here, my man.
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00:10:03,728 --> 00:10:05,108
Hey, anything
for you, my nigga.
250
00:10:05,146 --> 00:10:06,646
You know that.
251
00:10:06,731 --> 00:10:08,021
All right,
I got to run.
252
00:10:08,108 --> 00:10:09,398
We're gonna take
great care of you.
253
00:10:09,442 --> 00:10:10,652
Yeah.
254
00:10:16,116 --> 00:10:17,696
BOBBY:
Jerrod,
255
00:10:17,784 --> 00:10:19,244
what the hell was that?
256
00:10:19,285 --> 00:10:21,325
There it is. I'm out.
257
00:10:22,997 --> 00:10:25,247
Remember when I told you
black people don't eat here
258
00:10:25,333 --> 00:10:26,713
and you asked me why?
259
00:10:26,793 --> 00:10:28,673
(pops)
260
00:10:34,801 --> 00:10:37,301
Your server will be over to take
your drink orders shortly.
261
00:10:37,303 --> 00:10:39,313
Enjoy your meal.
Thank you.
262
00:10:42,809 --> 00:10:44,809
Why do you guys
keep staring at me like that?
263
00:10:44,853 --> 00:10:46,273
Come on. Just sit down.
Everything's fine.
264
00:10:46,312 --> 00:10:48,152
Don't ruin Mom's birthday.
265
00:10:48,189 --> 00:10:50,279
(sighs)
266
00:10:54,154 --> 00:10:56,824
So you gonna just let white
people call you "nigga," huh?
267
00:10:58,491 --> 00:11:01,371
I knew you shouldn't have went
to that integrated high school.
268
00:11:01,452 --> 00:11:03,712
I guess we better
get out of here.
269
00:11:03,788 --> 00:11:05,418
No, Dad, Dad, Dad.
270
00:11:05,498 --> 00:11:08,208
All right, you're overreacting.
We don't have to leave.
271
00:11:08,293 --> 00:11:09,883
Okay, Drew is my friend.
272
00:11:09,961 --> 00:11:11,921
That's just how we talk.
I'm completely cool with it.
273
00:11:12,005 --> 00:11:14,875
Jerrod, when a white man
uses the "N" word,
274
00:11:14,966 --> 00:11:17,086
that is a fire alarm
in a burning building
275
00:11:17,177 --> 00:11:19,757
that you need to get out of.
276
00:11:19,846 --> 00:11:22,306
Maxine, will you please
tell them they're overreacting?
277
00:11:22,348 --> 00:11:24,018
No, your dad is
absolutely right.
278
00:11:24,058 --> 00:11:25,888
I'm‐I'm not comfortable
eating at a place
279
00:11:25,977 --> 00:11:28,097
where one of the owners
casually says that word.
280
00:11:28,188 --> 00:11:29,438
You know, we don't
have to be outraged
281
00:11:29,522 --> 00:11:30,942
every time we hear the word,
all right?
282
00:11:31,024 --> 00:11:32,234
That's just another black rule
283
00:11:32,317 --> 00:11:33,987
that hurts us
more than it helps us.
284
00:11:34,027 --> 00:11:36,487
Ooh, this place,
it's incredible!
285
00:11:36,529 --> 00:11:39,869
There was a container of
mints in the bathroom.
286
00:11:39,908 --> 00:11:41,828
I almost took one.
287
00:11:41,868 --> 00:11:43,788
Can you imagine
how nice a place is
288
00:11:43,870 --> 00:11:46,830
if you want to eat
in the bathroom?
289
00:11:47,916 --> 00:11:50,746
What? Where's
Nekeisha?
290
00:11:50,835 --> 00:11:54,415
Why you all so silent?
291
00:11:54,505 --> 00:11:56,795
(clicks tongue)
I'm sorry, Cynthia,
292
00:11:56,883 --> 00:11:58,183
but we have to leave.
293
00:11:58,218 --> 00:11:59,798
Ow!
294
00:12:01,888 --> 00:12:03,768
Why would you want
to take me away
295
00:12:03,848 --> 00:12:05,178
from a nice place
like this?
296
00:12:05,225 --> 00:12:07,095
Tell me.
Why, Maxine? Why?!
297
00:12:07,185 --> 00:12:08,515
JERROD:
Maxine,
298
00:12:08,561 --> 00:12:10,861
don't upset Mom on her birthday.
299
00:12:10,897 --> 00:12:13,777
That's right. Do not
upset Mom on her birthday.
300
00:12:13,858 --> 00:12:15,938
And don't tell me
no bad news.
301
00:12:16,027 --> 00:12:18,067
I don't care if
it's a terrorist attack,
302
00:12:18,112 --> 00:12:19,782
I don't want
to hear about it.
303
00:12:19,864 --> 00:12:23,124
We'll pray for the victims
and the family after we eat.
304
00:12:23,201 --> 00:12:26,871
Well, unfortunately, it's much
worse than a terrorist attack.
305
00:12:26,913 --> 00:12:29,503
Jerrod was racially slurred
when you were in the bathroom.
306
00:12:29,582 --> 00:12:31,922
Lord, no!
On my birthday?
307
00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,130
I'm afraid so.
308
00:12:33,211 --> 00:12:35,551
Dad, stop.
I wasn't slurred, okay?
309
00:12:35,588 --> 00:12:37,548
Yes, my friend Drew
called me "nigga,"
310
00:12:37,590 --> 00:12:40,800
but he said it in a sweet
and loving type of way.
311
00:12:40,885 --> 00:12:43,045
Jerrod, you know
I don't like that word at all,
312
00:12:43,096 --> 00:12:46,136
but we cannot stop your
generation from saying it.
313
00:12:46,224 --> 00:12:48,234
Yeah, Mom,
but it's a twist to it.
314
00:12:48,268 --> 00:12:49,558
Drew is white.
315
00:12:49,602 --> 00:12:52,902
(gasps)
Sweet shepherd of Jesus!
316
00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,820
On my birthday?
317
00:12:56,901 --> 00:13:00,281
Jerrod, how can you be so
nonchalant about that word?
318
00:13:00,321 --> 00:13:02,871
It has such an intense
history of hate.
319
00:13:02,949 --> 00:13:05,449
It's the last word that
so many black people heard
320
00:13:05,493 --> 00:13:07,253
as they were being
hung from trees.
321
00:13:07,287 --> 00:13:08,617
Okay, I don't think the problem
322
00:13:08,663 --> 00:13:10,673
in that scenario
is the word, Maxine.
323
00:13:10,707 --> 00:13:12,207
I think it's the hanging.
324
00:13:12,292 --> 00:13:14,172
All right?
If you ask me,
325
00:13:14,252 --> 00:13:16,382
the black community gets
way too caught up on that word.
326
00:13:16,462 --> 00:13:18,212
It's just a distraction.
327
00:13:18,298 --> 00:13:20,088
We should focus on things
that actually matter,
328
00:13:20,133 --> 00:13:21,973
like, I don't know,
voter suppression,
329
00:13:22,010 --> 00:13:24,510
instead of Hulk Hogan,
or Dog the Bounty Hunter,
330
00:13:24,595 --> 00:13:26,345
or Justin Timberlake
saying the "N" word.
331
00:13:26,431 --> 00:13:29,981
Oh, no!
JT said it, too?
332
00:13:30,018 --> 00:13:32,308
Well, he hasn't said it...
333
00:13:32,353 --> 00:13:35,113
yet, but come on.
334
00:13:35,148 --> 00:13:37,608
Look, the point is,
335
00:13:37,650 --> 00:13:39,990
you guys saying black people
don't read like that
336
00:13:40,028 --> 00:13:42,358
is way more offensive than
someone saying the "N" word.
337
00:13:42,447 --> 00:13:44,317
I've known Drew
for a really long time.
338
00:13:44,365 --> 00:13:45,985
He's had nothing
but black friends.
339
00:13:46,034 --> 00:13:47,494
He's dated nothing
but black girls.
340
00:13:47,535 --> 00:13:49,535
I mean, the man has on
a fresh pair of Jordan 11's
341
00:13:49,620 --> 00:13:51,250
with a suit right now.
342
00:13:51,330 --> 00:13:52,670
He's embraced black culture
more than anyone.
343
00:13:52,707 --> 00:13:54,377
Well, just because you
appropriate our culture
344
00:13:54,417 --> 00:13:56,127
doesn't mean that
you can use our words.
345
00:13:56,169 --> 00:13:57,959
He is not black.
346
00:13:58,004 --> 00:14:00,094
And if you haven't experienced
the pain of that word,
347
00:14:00,173 --> 00:14:02,223
then you do not have
the right to say it.
348
00:14:02,300 --> 00:14:04,220
CYNTHIA:
She is right, Jerrod.
349
00:14:04,302 --> 00:14:07,182
They called me that word
when I was the only black girl
350
00:14:07,221 --> 00:14:09,351
in my fifth grade class.
351
00:14:09,390 --> 00:14:12,270
I went to school every day
knowing that I was not welcome,
352
00:14:12,351 --> 00:14:13,641
and that's
what that word is.
353
00:14:13,686 --> 00:14:15,936
It's a sign
that you are not welcome.
354
00:14:16,022 --> 00:14:19,152
Well, I'm sorry you had to
go through that, Cynthia.
355
00:14:20,443 --> 00:14:22,323
You know what, I'm just
gonna go and get our coats,
356
00:14:22,361 --> 00:14:23,611
and I will meet
you all out front.
357
00:14:23,696 --> 00:14:26,276
We just can't
stay, Jerrod.
358
00:14:26,365 --> 00:14:28,985
Why is it
every time Maxine is right,
359
00:14:29,035 --> 00:14:30,365
we all have to suffer?
360
00:14:32,413 --> 00:14:35,003
Yeah, we should have just gone
to Niecy's.
361
00:14:35,083 --> 00:14:37,093
Ooh, but it's gonna be hard
to eat there
362
00:14:37,168 --> 00:14:38,668
after I have experienced
363
00:14:38,711 --> 00:14:40,591
all this elegance today.
364
00:14:40,671 --> 00:14:42,721
You guys sound like you don't
actually want to leave.
365
00:14:42,757 --> 00:14:44,257
Do you really want to
366
00:14:44,342 --> 00:14:46,552
or do you just feel obligated to
as black people?
367
00:14:46,594 --> 00:14:48,264
Well, I feel obligated.
368
00:14:48,346 --> 00:14:52,266
You see how mad Maxine is
and she only half black.
369
00:14:52,350 --> 00:14:55,980
Does that mean I got
to be double angry?
370
00:14:56,062 --> 00:14:57,402
Well, yeah, those are the rules.
371
00:14:57,438 --> 00:14:59,978
Your anger has to match
your melanin.
372
00:15:00,066 --> 00:15:01,436
Jerrod, look at your skin.
373
00:15:01,526 --> 00:15:03,526
You should be furious right now.
374
00:15:07,406 --> 00:15:09,116
Enjoy.
375
00:15:13,746 --> 00:15:18,126
Damn, that bread looks warm.
You think they made it in‐house?
376
00:15:18,209 --> 00:15:20,339
Of course they made it in‐house.
377
00:15:20,419 --> 00:15:23,049
Look at the cartoonish
amount of steam
378
00:15:23,089 --> 00:15:25,629
rising off the backs
of them rolls.
379
00:15:25,716 --> 00:15:27,636
God, I'm hungry.
380
00:15:27,718 --> 00:15:29,178
You know, Dad,
if you want a roll,
381
00:15:29,262 --> 00:15:30,762
you could just
take a roll.
382
00:15:30,805 --> 00:15:34,135
Oh, what a dilemma.
383
00:15:34,225 --> 00:15:35,515
This must be what it felt like
384
00:15:35,601 --> 00:15:39,401
to sit at that
Woolworth's counter in the '60s.
385
00:15:39,438 --> 00:15:41,358
I'm just gonna...
Joe.
386
00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,730
...have a bite, 'cause,
you know, my blood sugar's low.
387
00:15:45,945 --> 00:15:49,275
Mmm. This is for you,
Greensboro Four.
388
00:15:49,323 --> 00:15:52,413
This is for all the lunches
you were never served.
389
00:15:54,453 --> 00:15:57,333
Good God.
390
00:15:57,373 --> 00:15:59,713
They're pretzel rolls, baby.
Oh!
391
00:15:59,792 --> 00:16:01,292
A pretzel roll?
Mmm.
392
00:16:01,335 --> 00:16:03,415
Very ambitious.
393
00:16:03,462 --> 00:16:05,052
This restaurant is
taking some swings.
394
00:16:05,131 --> 00:16:06,631
CYNTHIA:
Mm‐hmm.
395
00:16:06,674 --> 00:16:09,434
Oh, nailed it.
396
00:16:09,468 --> 00:16:13,508
This makes the oppression
go down a whole lot easier.
397
00:16:13,598 --> 00:16:15,138
Mmm.
398
00:16:15,183 --> 00:16:17,313
Uh, why are you
guys still sitting?
399
00:16:17,351 --> 00:16:19,101
I was waiting
out front.
400
00:16:19,145 --> 00:16:20,645
Now, look, Maxine,
I know what we said
401
00:16:20,688 --> 00:16:23,688
about oppression
and us having the integrity
402
00:16:23,774 --> 00:16:25,694
to stand up for ourselves
as black people.
403
00:16:25,776 --> 00:16:28,606
But that's before
I tried this pretzel roll.
404
00:16:30,072 --> 00:16:34,372
This is honey butter, Maxine.
405
00:16:34,452 --> 00:16:38,622
I'm sure you should be able to
relate to this dilemma, right?
406
00:16:38,706 --> 00:16:39,456
What?
407
00:16:40,291 --> 00:16:41,581
Would you like
sparkling water or still?
408
00:16:41,667 --> 00:16:43,337
Oh, why would you even ask?
409
00:16:43,377 --> 00:16:45,797
Of course we'd like
the sparkling.
410
00:16:50,092 --> 00:16:51,472
Mmm!
411
00:16:51,510 --> 00:16:54,140
It tastes like
healthy Sprite.
412
00:16:58,017 --> 00:16:59,767
Would you care to hear
about our specials today?
413
00:16:59,852 --> 00:17:01,692
Um, can you just please
give us a second?
414
00:17:01,729 --> 00:17:03,399
Of course.
Take your time.
415
00:17:03,481 --> 00:17:04,691
Maxine, don't you see
416
00:17:04,732 --> 00:17:06,822
that by making a big deal
about this word,
417
00:17:06,859 --> 00:17:08,689
you're just giving it power?
418
00:17:08,736 --> 00:17:11,406
You're basically giving someone
a weapon to hurt you with.
419
00:17:11,489 --> 00:17:13,659
I mean, we can't control
who says the word,
420
00:17:13,699 --> 00:17:15,699
but we can control
our reaction to it.
421
00:17:15,743 --> 00:17:17,543
You know what I think?
I think everyone
422
00:17:17,578 --> 00:17:19,458
should just use the word
constantly.
423
00:17:19,538 --> 00:17:21,458
So much until it dilutes
its power,
424
00:17:21,540 --> 00:17:23,580
makes it meaningless.
425
00:17:23,668 --> 00:17:25,838
I'll know we've come a long way
as a nation
426
00:17:25,878 --> 00:17:28,168
the day I turn on Ellen
and she says,
427
00:17:28,214 --> 00:17:32,224
"Ladies and gentlemen,
my nigga, Bruno Mars."
428
00:17:32,260 --> 00:17:35,680
And all the soccer moms
in the audience cheer.
429
00:17:35,721 --> 00:17:38,271
Well, Jerrod
makes a good point.
430
00:17:38,349 --> 00:17:39,429
Look, in ninth grade,
431
00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,810
my friend, Kevin, was called
that word by a white guy,
432
00:17:42,895 --> 00:17:45,605
and he beat his face
until it was unrecognizable.
433
00:17:45,690 --> 00:17:50,530
Just the way I taught you boys.
I am so proud of Kevin.
434
00:17:50,570 --> 00:17:52,280
Yeah, but Kevin got expelled.
435
00:17:52,363 --> 00:17:53,783
And you know
what he's doing now?
436
00:17:53,864 --> 00:17:54,824
Selling drugs?
437
00:17:54,907 --> 00:17:58,197
Maxine, that is racist.
438
00:17:59,579 --> 00:18:01,539
But that's exactly
what he's doing.
439
00:18:01,622 --> 00:18:05,542
Look, you see, Maxine?
This is exactly what I mean.
440
00:18:05,585 --> 00:18:08,045
Obsessing over the word
just ruins people's lives.
441
00:18:08,087 --> 00:18:10,457
Now, the only people
you'll be punishing
442
00:18:10,548 --> 00:18:12,718
by making us take a stance
against this restaurant
443
00:18:12,758 --> 00:18:14,588
is my family, who won't be able
444
00:18:14,635 --> 00:18:16,635
to eat a nice meal
on my mom's birthday.
445
00:18:16,721 --> 00:18:20,851
No, the people who are punished
are the victims of that word.
446
00:18:20,933 --> 00:18:23,233
(sighs)
447
00:18:23,269 --> 00:18:27,189
You know, I don't know if
I told you this, but...
448
00:18:27,273 --> 00:18:29,693
when I was 16, my swim team
made it all the way
449
00:18:29,775 --> 00:18:31,485
to the state championship.
450
00:18:31,569 --> 00:18:33,569
And just before the final meet,
451
00:18:33,613 --> 00:18:35,823
a white kid
from the other team yelled,
452
00:18:35,906 --> 00:18:37,236
"Hey, what are you doing here?
453
00:18:37,283 --> 00:18:38,953
'N' words can't swim."
454
00:18:38,993 --> 00:18:41,373
Except he actually
said the word.
455
00:18:41,454 --> 00:18:43,374
And it zapped all my confidence.
456
00:18:43,456 --> 00:18:46,376
That day, I swam the worst time
of my entire life.
457
00:18:46,459 --> 00:18:49,749
I was so upset that I...
458
00:18:49,795 --> 00:18:52,755
eventually quit swim team.
459
00:18:53,924 --> 00:18:57,264
Wait. That was your story?
460
00:19:00,389 --> 00:19:03,889
That wasn't inspiring at all.
461
00:19:03,976 --> 00:19:06,936
Yeah, I thought it was gonna be
a story of triumph, Maxine.
462
00:19:06,979 --> 00:19:08,479
Yeah, why are you telling us
463
00:19:08,522 --> 00:19:12,362
your story of not rising
to the occasion?
464
00:19:12,443 --> 00:19:14,493
This is a story of how damaging
465
00:19:14,528 --> 00:19:16,608
that word can be
to someone's spirit.
466
00:19:16,656 --> 00:19:18,276
It is used to humiliate us,
467
00:19:18,324 --> 00:19:20,284
and we can't just ignore
that fact
468
00:19:20,326 --> 00:19:22,326
because we like a dinner roll!
DREW: Hey, Jerrod.
469
00:19:22,370 --> 00:19:24,370
I'm just checking in.
Now, be sure to let me know
470
00:19:24,413 --> 00:19:25,503
if you need any...
Hey!
471
00:19:25,539 --> 00:19:26,829
We are not niggers!
472
00:19:33,673 --> 00:19:35,683
Maxine is right.
473
00:19:35,716 --> 00:19:37,836
We should probably leave.
474
00:19:48,521 --> 00:19:50,941
I can't believe we are back up
in Niecy's again.
475
00:19:52,024 --> 00:19:54,744
They still got a sandwich
named after O. J. Simpson.
476
00:19:54,819 --> 00:19:56,489
What the hell are we doing
in here?
477
00:19:56,529 --> 00:19:57,659
Well, we're definitely
not allowed back
478
00:19:57,697 --> 00:19:59,487
at Florentine's
any time soon.
479
00:19:59,532 --> 00:20:01,952
Yeah. I've been
sitting here 30 minutes
480
00:20:02,034 --> 00:20:04,834
and nobody's come over
for my drink order.
481
00:20:04,870 --> 00:20:06,580
(sighs)
482
00:20:06,622 --> 00:20:09,042
Look, I'm sorry that
I got us kicked out.
483
00:20:09,083 --> 00:20:10,423
But, you know,
they didn't deserve
484
00:20:10,501 --> 00:20:11,631
our business anyway.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
485
00:20:12,795 --> 00:20:15,545
We already heard about your
failed swimming career, Maxine.
486
00:20:16,549 --> 00:20:18,009
Look, I don't know
487
00:20:18,050 --> 00:20:20,300
if white people should
be saying the "N" word,
488
00:20:20,386 --> 00:20:22,636
but I definitely know
Maxine shouldn't say it.
489
00:20:22,722 --> 00:20:24,972
The way you said it,
it hurt my soul.
490
00:20:25,057 --> 00:20:27,017
JOE:
Hear! Hear!
491
00:20:27,059 --> 00:20:28,809
I'd like to toast to that,
492
00:20:28,894 --> 00:20:31,484
but we haven't gotten
our drinks yet.
493
00:20:31,564 --> 00:20:34,654
Maxine, why did you have to
put the "E‐R" on the end?
494
00:20:34,734 --> 00:20:35,994
Yeah.
495
00:20:36,068 --> 00:20:37,068
Drew didn't say it
like that.
496
00:20:38,112 --> 00:20:39,662
There was actual hate
in your voice when you said it.
497
00:20:39,739 --> 00:20:41,119
Yours is like
the curb‐stomping scene
498
00:20:41,198 --> 00:20:43,868
from American History X.
499
00:20:43,909 --> 00:20:45,869
It wasn't hate
towards black people.
500
00:20:45,911 --> 00:20:47,751
It was hate towards
your friend.
501
00:20:47,788 --> 00:20:51,878
Well, Maxine, hate is hate,
and it's hurtful on all of us.
502
00:20:51,959 --> 00:20:53,499
Excuse me.
503
00:20:53,586 --> 00:20:56,006
Would you happen to have
some sparkling water?
504
00:20:56,088 --> 00:20:56,958
WAITER:
Come on.
505
00:20:57,923 --> 00:21:00,763
You know we ain't got
no sparkling water.
506
00:21:00,801 --> 00:21:04,351
Yeah, I‐I know.
507
00:21:04,430 --> 00:21:06,100
Well, could I have
a Sprite?
508
00:21:06,140 --> 00:21:07,770
We got Pepsi.
509
00:21:08,768 --> 00:21:13,728
Oh, Lord,
I miss Florentine's.
510
00:21:13,773 --> 00:21:15,073
Got me on my birthday,
511
00:21:15,107 --> 00:21:18,857
up here eating
with all these niggas.
512
00:21:22,031 --> 00:21:26,121
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