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The Carmichael Show is taped in
front of a live studio audience.
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(stifled sob)
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(crying)
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- JERROD: Hey, y'all.
- (door closing)
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JOE: Cynthia, the kids are here.
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Okay, I'll be out in a minute!
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(crying)
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Aw, look how cute everybody is all
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color coordinated for the family photo.
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Yeah,
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let's hurry up and take this picture.
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Maxine and I look like mannequins
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in a Kanye West outlet mall.
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Wait, wait, wait, we
were supposed to match?
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I just threw this on this morning.
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(laughs)
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Power of the universe.
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All right, now, boys,
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me and your mama sat up
for an hour last night
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trying to figure out which
pose we gonna do today.
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It's either kids between adult legs,
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peek-a-boo style or a pyramid.
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Now, look, I've put on a little weight,
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so, Jerrod, you and
Bobby get over there
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and see if you can support my weight.
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Oh, yeah, this'll be fun.
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You know, I was head
cheerleader so I can be on top.
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Oh, yeah, that'd be good...
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Your mama ain't gonna
let her be on top.
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Cynthia...
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Oh!
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Maxine, you should knock before you
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come into a kitchen.
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Are you crying?
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No.
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Well, Cynthia, you're obviously crying.
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You know, Maxine,
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sometimes you harp on things
and it is really annoying.
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(sighs)
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JOE: Bobby, get your
ass up off the floor.
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You know you ain't hurt.
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Joe, I told you, kids between
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adult legs peek-a-boo style!
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Um, did something happen to you?
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(sighs)
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Enough of the questions, Maxine.
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Let's talk about what's gonna happen
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when you leave this kitchen.
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I don't want you saying anything
about this to anyone, okay?
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Well, but, I just think that...
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Listen, I...
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am not one to threaten anyone
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with physical violence, but...
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...I'm willing to do what I have
to do to keep this a secret.
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Uh, I just want to make
sure that you're okay.
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You know what, Maxine,
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I'm getting a snitch vibe from you.
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You know what happens to snitches.
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They get stitches.
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No, they get dead.
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Picture time!
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Oh, look at my boys. You are gonna look
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so nice in the picture.
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Now let me run and get dressed.
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I don't want us to be late.
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Take your time.
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We still working on this pyramid.
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That ain't the way you do a pyramid.
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What's the point of having two boys
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if y'all can't even pick me up?
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Um, has anyone noticed
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anything off about Cynthia lately?
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Well, she agreed to let you
be in the family picture,
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that's a little weird.
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I told her she could cut you out.
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You know, with, uh,
Photoshop these days,
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you can have the family you want
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instead of the family you got.
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Yeah, you could
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Photoshop anything now.
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Look, there's no reason
why you should be online
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looking ugly, okay.
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Technology cured ugliness.
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Look, I really think
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that there's something wrong with her.
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Maxine, you obviously know something.
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Just tell us.
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Don't make us fish around
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for answers to clear your conscience.
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If you're gonna snitch, just snitch.
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Look, I saw your mom
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crying in the kitchen, okay?
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Snitch, snitch, snitch.
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Joe, do we have to wait
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until after the photo
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before we crop her out?
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Look, Cynthia, I'm sorry.
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Of course, I had to tell them,
I'm worried about you.
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Wait, Mama, y-y-you okay?
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Look, just say you're okay
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even if you not okay, okay?
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Bobby...
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I am sure there's a legit reason
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why Mom was crying in the kitchen.
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I mean, Maxine's a very caring
person, but sometimes she looks
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for emotions where there aren't any.
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Like if I'm quiet at home
for more than an hour,
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she keeps probing for answers
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until I got to make up
a lie about my father.
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Dad, I'm sorry.
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It's the only way to get her to stop.
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(Cynthia sighs)
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Nothing is wrong, Bobby.
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I just get a little sad.
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I mean, sadness doesn't need a reason.
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I just have all these feelings.
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Look, your mama doesn't have to
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explain herself to you.
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She's had the blues lately.
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You know, crying from time to time,
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taking naps that turn
into for real sleeping.
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The big thing is your mama handled this
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all on her own.
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No, I think the big thing is
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that she was crying
alone in the kitchen.
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Yeah, and what do you mean
by she's had the blues lately?
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Has this been happening a lot, Cynthia?
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I don't know, maybe
five, six, seven weeks.
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Oh, here comes the tears.
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Ma...
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you've been crying alone
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f-for five or six, seven weeks?
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That's a huge problem.
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Oh, that ain't... Five or six,
seven weeks ain't nothing.
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I had colds longer than that.
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Dad, that's a huge problem, too.
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Get that checked out.
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You probably got walking
pneumonia or something.
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Jerrod, when you were a teenager,
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you had the blues all the time.
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No, Ma, that's called being a teenager.
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Wait, yeah, Jerrod,
you did get dumped a lot.
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Again, it's called being a teenager.
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Uh, Cynthia, can you try and describe
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how you feel when you get like this?
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Well, I don't know, it's...
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I-it's that feeling like
a wave just hits you
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and you can't breathe,
and each wave is-is bigger
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than the last wave and
it's just pushing you further
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and further away from shore,
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and you try to come up for air
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but you can't.
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You know. The blues.
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No, don't-don't say you're
drowning and you feel like
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you're gasping for air, casually,
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and call it, "the blues,"
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and expect us not to be upset.
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Cynthia, that sounds like depression.
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Depression?!
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Wait, that's what that is?
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I've just been calling it,
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"the case of the Mondays" for years.
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Maxine, honey, working class
people don't get depression.
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Depression is a luxury
of wealth and free time.
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Mm-hmm.
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That is right.
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Depression is a disease
of the opulent, you know,
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like, um, affluenza or that...
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truffle fingers.
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Dad, there is no way truffle
fingers is a real thing.
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No, depression isn't real.
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That's something rich people made up
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'cause they were bored
and they wanted to add
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some adversity to their lives.
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Imagine how boring Justin
Bieber's bio would be
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if it didn't say he had depression.
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It would say birth,
instant fame, dead at 27.
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I ain't trying to wish something
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on the boy, but I see the signs.
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No, no, no, I get it,
I get it, all right.
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We were raised in an environment
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where we were taught to
believe depression isn't real
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and we're supposed to ignore it
'cause it makes us appear weak.
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However, it is a real thing,
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and I don't want you two ignoring it
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the way we ignore Uncle
Jack's depression.
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Your Uncle Jack is not depressed.
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Uncle Jack hasn't left
his house in 15 years.
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Well, he has a very nice house.
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That is not true.
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He does not have a very nice house.
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Well, it must be kind of nice,
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he's been in there for 15 years!
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Hey, y'all.
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Joe, I got your text
about the family photo,
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and she ready to be the
base of this pyramid.
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Hey, Nekeisha, your braids
and aggressive demeanor
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tell us you've been
through a lot of pain.
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Would you please
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explain to my parents
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that depression is a real thing?
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I thought depression was
one of those things that
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only rich people get, like
tennis elbow or skin cancer.
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Thank you!
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Told you!
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Who's depressed? Bobby?
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They talking about me.
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Who's talking? Maxine?
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Mm-hmm, who else?
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I'm sorry, I go to school for this,
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and I'm not trying to
diagnose you or anything,
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but I know how to look for the signs,
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and Jerrod agrees with me, too.
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Yeah, yeah, I know
it's out of character
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for me, but I do, I agree.
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You know what the problem
is in this country?
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Over-diagnosis.
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You drink too much coffee?
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Well, oh, you got ADHD.
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You stay up late, you got insomnia.
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You speed up on a pedestrian,
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they try to charge you
with attempted murder.
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Labels! Labels.
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All right, we've talked
enough about depression.
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(laughs)
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Listen, I have a $20 off coupon
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at Sears for family portraits
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and this is the day it expires,
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so let's go.
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No, w-w-wait,
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we're not just gonna
ignore this, are we?
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No, we're not.
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Well, which one of you
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is gonna pay the extra $20?
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Look, I just think that
we need to talk about
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Cynthia maybe seeing a therapist.
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A therapist?!
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(laughs)
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(Joe and Nekeisha laughing)
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Dad, Dad, do you mind if I talk to you
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in the kitchen for a second?
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No, I don't get called
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into rooms in my own house.
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Should be lucky I want
a soda right now.
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Ah, and remember, I lead first.
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If I've learned anything
from The Dog Whisperer,
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it's to establish dominance early.
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Look, Dad, Mom needs help.
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Since when did you become Mr. Therapy?
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Maxine?
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Who else?
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But she's right.
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You know, she helps a lot of people
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a-and I've seen it.
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I mean, I wasn't supposed to see it,
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but I looked through some files
'cause I couldn't sleep...
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...and those files didn't
help me sleep at all.
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Look, I know you mean well,
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but your mother isn't the
type to go for therapy.
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She's strong, not crazy.
264
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But she's had, like,
six or seven weeks to talk
265
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to someone and she's not
talking to any of us,
266
00:09:38,848 --> 00:09:40,950
so maybe she should see a therapist.
267
00:09:41,009 --> 00:09:43,072
Well, I don't want anybody
tampering with your mama.
268
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I love her just the way she is.
269
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Look, Dad, no one's
gonna tamper with Mom.
270
00:09:47,692 --> 00:09:49,315
It's just gonna make
her a better version
271
00:09:49,361 --> 00:09:50,772
of who she already is.
272
00:09:50,811 --> 00:09:53,980
Why are you young people so
in love with self-improvement?
273
00:09:54,068 --> 00:09:56,470
You got to get to know
who you really are
274
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or you gonna wind up changing
275
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that one thing about you that's unique.
276
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There's nothing wrong
with being sad sometimes.
277
00:10:02,158 --> 00:10:04,625
Look at Amy Winehouse, beautiful music.
278
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She's dead.
279
00:10:13,620 --> 00:10:15,488
And I want Mom
280
00:10:15,540 --> 00:10:19,042
to be okay, so despite all
of our feelings about therapy,
281
00:10:19,139 --> 00:10:22,041
Mom is in a lot of pain right
now so I'm gonna go out there
282
00:10:22,121 --> 00:10:23,755
and I'm gonna tell her
she needs to see a therapist,
283
00:10:23,801 --> 00:10:25,101
whether you agree or not.
284
00:10:25,137 --> 00:10:26,871
Wait, you can't show
dominance in my house!
285
00:10:26,919 --> 00:10:28,120
I'm the alpha!
286
00:10:28,154 --> 00:10:31,456
So, by my third foster home,
I was so confused.
287
00:10:31,547 --> 00:10:33,948
I mean, I was 16 and I wasn't even sure
288
00:10:34,015 --> 00:10:36,116
if I was even capable of love anymore.
289
00:10:36,174 --> 00:10:37,575
Hmm, so what did you do?
290
00:10:37,614 --> 00:10:40,349
I mean, you seem to be
functioning okay now.
291
00:10:40,425 --> 00:10:42,088
Only because I had
finally got the courage
292
00:10:42,134 --> 00:10:44,373
to call someone, Mark, actually.
293
00:10:44,436 --> 00:10:46,370
Wait, why did you laugh
earlier if you've been
294
00:10:46,423 --> 00:10:47,590
to therapy before?
295
00:10:47,623 --> 00:10:49,691
No, Mark is not a therapist.
296
00:10:49,749 --> 00:10:51,381
He sells weed, okay?
297
00:10:53,723 --> 00:10:56,493
Weed is a coping mechanism.
298
00:10:56,570 --> 00:10:58,704
See, Cynthia, there's two ways
299
00:10:58,763 --> 00:11:00,430
to handle a problem, okay?
300
00:11:00,477 --> 00:11:03,313
Way number one: you can take it head on,
301
00:11:03,391 --> 00:11:05,158
and run into it,
and just fight it out...
302
00:11:05,207 --> 00:11:07,275
or you could take a hit of weed
303
00:11:07,333 --> 00:11:09,467
and forget all your problems.
304
00:11:09,526 --> 00:11:11,427
Now, you gonna forget
some good things, too,
305
00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,848
but it's worth it.
306
00:11:13,913 --> 00:11:16,415
Well, look, Ma, I'm worried about you.
307
00:11:16,485 --> 00:11:18,046
There's obviously
something very serious
308
00:11:18,089 --> 00:11:19,912
happening with you and
it could be depression.
309
00:11:19,963 --> 00:11:20,947
MAXINE: Yeah,
310
00:11:20,975 --> 00:11:22,696
and if it is depression,
you need to talk to
311
00:11:22,744 --> 00:11:24,812
a professional about it
before it gets worse.
312
00:11:24,869 --> 00:11:27,650
Yep, one day you're cleaning...
313
00:11:27,727 --> 00:11:29,561
and the next day, you're slowly walking
314
00:11:29,612 --> 00:11:31,679
around in front of a pond.
315
00:11:33,176 --> 00:11:37,781
Why do depression commercials
always got a pond in it?
316
00:11:37,908 --> 00:11:40,842
I mean, I think ponds
are happy, you know?
317
00:11:42,089 --> 00:11:46,059
Look, I'm just trying to
contribute, y'all, come on.
318
00:11:46,168 --> 00:11:49,170
All right, listen,
I am going to handle this
319
00:11:49,253 --> 00:11:50,420
in my own way.
320
00:11:50,453 --> 00:11:52,421
It is none of your concern.
321
00:11:52,476 --> 00:11:55,144
The only thing you guys
have to do is smile
322
00:11:55,217 --> 00:11:58,052
when the guy behind that
camera says, "Cheese."
323
00:11:58,131 --> 00:12:00,199
Look, Ma, here's the deal.
324
00:12:00,256 --> 00:12:02,991
Nobody is taking that picture
until you see a therapist.
325
00:12:03,067 --> 00:12:04,810
- (gasps)
- I'm not gonna take that picture,
326
00:12:04,858 --> 00:12:06,349
Maxine's not gonna take that picture,
327
00:12:06,391 --> 00:12:08,272
and Bobby's not gonna
take that picture, either.
328
00:12:08,324 --> 00:12:09,558
I'm including you in this.
329
00:12:09,593 --> 00:12:11,514
My man.
330
00:12:11,568 --> 00:12:13,135
Joe, do you hear them?
331
00:12:13,178 --> 00:12:14,512
So, that's your plan?
332
00:12:14,550 --> 00:12:16,117
That's low, son.
333
00:12:16,161 --> 00:12:18,929
Manipulating your mama
into bettering herself.
334
00:12:19,005 --> 00:12:20,072
We don't need them.
335
00:12:20,102 --> 00:12:21,885
We can take our own picture,
just me and you.
336
00:12:21,935 --> 00:12:24,035
I don't want a picture of me and you.
337
00:12:26,271 --> 00:12:29,741
Jerrod, stop holding the
family portrait hostage.
338
00:12:29,837 --> 00:12:31,938
I'm sorry, Mom, but you
leave me no choice.
339
00:12:31,996 --> 00:12:34,064
Fine, fine.
340
00:12:34,122 --> 00:12:36,357
One session.
341
00:12:36,419 --> 00:12:38,453
I will go to one session,
342
00:12:38,509 --> 00:12:42,712
but I am going to wear a big hat
and sunglasses, like Jackie O,
343
00:12:42,828 --> 00:12:46,097
because I can't be seen
going into therapy.
344
00:12:46,187 --> 00:12:48,454
I have a reputation to uphold.
345
00:12:58,485 --> 00:13:00,233
You don't need to wear those.
346
00:13:00,310 --> 00:13:02,612
This is how the poker
players hide their tells.
347
00:13:02,676 --> 00:13:04,743
I'm-a see how good your mind reader is.
348
00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,402
See if she can see
through these shades.
349
00:13:07,474 --> 00:13:08,974
There is no point in doing this
350
00:13:09,016 --> 00:13:10,559
if you're not gonna take it seriously.
351
00:13:10,603 --> 00:13:12,529
Fine.
352
00:13:12,582 --> 00:13:14,282
But I'm not taking off the hat.
353
00:13:14,330 --> 00:13:18,566
I built this entire
outfit around this hat.
354
00:13:19,985 --> 00:13:21,319
(sighs)
355
00:13:21,356 --> 00:13:22,857
Now what?
356
00:13:22,899 --> 00:13:24,333
We just fill out these forms
357
00:13:24,373 --> 00:13:25,840
and wait for your name to be called.
358
00:13:25,881 --> 00:13:28,181
She's gonna call my name out loud?
359
00:13:29,068 --> 00:13:30,670
I need an alias.
360
00:13:30,715 --> 00:13:33,349
Put down Diana Ross.
361
00:13:33,422 --> 00:13:34,956
No, no, Star Jones.
362
00:13:34,998 --> 00:13:37,032
Everybody knows she crazy.
363
00:13:38,185 --> 00:13:41,122
Nancy Grace, final answer.
364
00:13:41,203 --> 00:13:43,804
No one here is going to judge you.
365
00:13:43,876 --> 00:13:45,577
I don't know why not.
366
00:13:45,625 --> 00:13:48,026
I'm judging them.
367
00:13:48,092 --> 00:13:49,193
Psst.
368
00:13:49,224 --> 00:13:52,258
Psst, what you in here for?
369
00:13:53,268 --> 00:13:54,336
I'm sorry.
370
00:13:54,366 --> 00:13:55,733
She's new to therapy.
371
00:13:55,771 --> 00:13:57,071
She the crazy one.
372
00:13:57,108 --> 00:13:58,874
I'm just her ride.
373
00:14:00,494 --> 00:14:01,935
Look, it's important that you answer
374
00:14:01,975 --> 00:14:03,609
these questions
as honestly as possible.
375
00:14:03,654 --> 00:14:04,921
Well...
376
00:14:04,957 --> 00:14:07,859
Shouldn't this place be more uplifting?
377
00:14:07,939 --> 00:14:10,741
They don't have no Highlights magazines
378
00:14:10,819 --> 00:14:14,121
or a colorful abacus
that I could play with?
379
00:14:14,212 --> 00:14:17,247
No, 'cause you're not
seeing a pediatrician.
380
00:14:17,331 --> 00:14:19,731
Cynthia Carmichael.
381
00:14:22,266 --> 00:14:24,500
Cynthia Carmichael.
382
00:14:26,928 --> 00:14:28,862
Snitch. (scoffs)
383
00:14:32,251 --> 00:14:34,353
Do you think Mom is
telling all our secrets?
384
00:14:34,411 --> 00:14:35,794
Bobby, you don't have any secrets.
385
00:14:35,833 --> 00:14:37,699
You post everything on Instagram.
386
00:14:38,901 --> 00:14:40,169
Shoot, I don't need no stranger
387
00:14:40,204 --> 00:14:41,838
to make me reveal my dark secrets.
388
00:14:41,884 --> 00:14:44,185
Bobby, when your mama
was pregnant with you,
389
00:14:44,249 --> 00:14:45,583
this woman who couldn't have kids
390
00:14:45,620 --> 00:14:47,754
offered us $10,000 for you.
391
00:14:47,813 --> 00:14:50,076
Now, I know that's not a lot
of money to pay for a child,
392
00:14:50,139 --> 00:14:53,680
but we did take the whole
weekend to think about it.
393
00:14:53,778 --> 00:14:56,980
Wow, thanks for keeping me.
394
00:14:57,068 --> 00:14:59,503
Well, the woman changed
her mind at the last minute.
395
00:14:59,571 --> 00:15:01,138
The whole deal fell through.
396
00:15:01,181 --> 00:15:02,248
What?
397
00:15:02,278 --> 00:15:04,679
You owe me an El Camino.
398
00:15:04,746 --> 00:15:06,647
Hey, how'd it go, baby?
399
00:15:06,700 --> 00:15:08,501
It did not go well, Joe.
400
00:15:08,551 --> 00:15:10,185
Don't speak for me, Maxine.
401
00:15:10,231 --> 00:15:12,432
It did not go well, Joe.
402
00:15:12,493 --> 00:15:14,761
Look, I don't want to know,
I don't want to know.
403
00:15:14,824 --> 00:15:16,091
They uncovered some...
404
00:15:16,126 --> 00:15:18,229
some deep, dark secrets
about you, didn't they, Mama?
405
00:15:18,288 --> 00:15:18,887
Huh?
406
00:15:18,888 --> 00:15:20,989
You got more than one personality?
407
00:15:21,048 --> 00:15:22,881
Are all them personalities my mama?
408
00:15:24,406 --> 00:15:26,041
Look, they didn't uncover anything
409
00:15:26,086 --> 00:15:27,189
'cause she didn't even try.
410
00:15:27,221 --> 00:15:28,718
Yes, I did.
411
00:15:28,759 --> 00:15:31,661
That therapist, she just
made me uncomfortable.
412
00:15:31,742 --> 00:15:34,911
She kept nodding her head
every time I said something,
413
00:15:34,998 --> 00:15:36,765
acting like she got me.
414
00:15:36,814 --> 00:15:39,315
Well, I was lying,
so I knew she didn't get me.
415
00:15:40,687 --> 00:15:41,688
That's my girl.
416
00:15:41,717 --> 00:15:42,717
Keep it in house.
417
00:15:42,745 --> 00:15:44,112
- (laughs)
- Ma...
418
00:15:44,150 --> 00:15:45,250
y-you lied?
419
00:15:45,281 --> 00:15:47,047
I mean, who leaves
therapy a worse person?
420
00:15:48,639 --> 00:15:51,041
Apparently, she thought
the therapist was asking her
421
00:15:51,108 --> 00:15:52,742
too many personal questions.
422
00:15:52,788 --> 00:15:54,771
I don't like anybody asking
me personal questions.
423
00:15:54,826 --> 00:15:55,611
Mm-hmm.
424
00:15:55,633 --> 00:15:56,599
Cynthia didn't even know
425
00:15:56,627 --> 00:15:59,062
my last name till we were married.
426
00:15:59,129 --> 00:16:01,230
Look, Ma, you had to know
how therapy worked.
427
00:16:01,288 --> 00:16:03,456
I mean, remember we
saw Good Will Hunting
428
00:16:03,516 --> 00:16:04,516
in theaters together.
429
00:16:04,545 --> 00:16:05,779
You kept yelling at the screen,
430
00:16:05,813 --> 00:16:07,313
"Somebody needs to
give that boy a hug!"
431
00:16:07,355 --> 00:16:08,356
Give your mother a break.
432
00:16:08,385 --> 00:16:09,648
She's been through a lot today.
433
00:16:09,683 --> 00:16:12,121
No, let's not give her a break, Joe.
434
00:16:12,189 --> 00:16:14,657
Giving her a break is what got
her here in the first place.
435
00:16:14,725 --> 00:16:15,858
Now, let's stop pretending.
436
00:16:15,890 --> 00:16:17,256
Did she raise her voice?
437
00:16:18,048 --> 00:16:20,918
You raise your voice?
438
00:16:20,998 --> 00:16:23,233
She raised her voice?!
439
00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,000
Yes, yes and yes.
440
00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,000
Cynthia,
441
00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,279
you are the only one who can
make a difference in this.
442
00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:31,781
Now if you had actually answered any
443
00:16:31,823 --> 00:16:32,989
of the therapist's questions,
444
00:16:33,021 --> 00:16:34,856
maybe you would have
gotten somewhere. I mean,
445
00:16:34,907 --> 00:16:36,847
isn't this the family that
just talks about everything?!
446
00:16:36,901 --> 00:16:38,518
Usually, I can't get
you guys to shut up
447
00:16:38,564 --> 00:16:40,108
- and now you're afraid to talk?!
- Oh!
448
00:16:40,151 --> 00:16:41,686
Well, I'm not afraid to say this:
449
00:16:41,729 --> 00:16:44,163
you are out of the family picture!
450
00:16:44,230 --> 00:16:45,297
- Okay, you two...
- Wait, wait, now,
451
00:16:45,327 --> 00:16:46,710
they fighting over your love, boy.
452
00:16:46,749 --> 00:16:47,600
Don't get involved.
453
00:16:47,624 --> 00:16:50,324
BOTH: This has nothing
to do with Jerrod!
454
00:16:51,153 --> 00:16:53,254
(mouthing)
455
00:16:54,786 --> 00:16:57,489
Now, Cynthia, why would I even
want to be in that picture?
456
00:16:57,564 --> 00:16:59,031
So I can look back at it and go,
457
00:16:59,072 --> 00:17:00,272
"Oh, hey, remember that time
458
00:17:00,306 --> 00:17:01,889
"Cynthia was suffering from depression?
459
00:17:01,933 --> 00:17:03,285
"That was so much fun!
460
00:17:03,323 --> 00:17:04,990
Look at that darkness behind her eyes."
461
00:17:05,037 --> 00:17:06,637
And-and behind Bobby's eyes.
462
00:17:06,681 --> 00:17:08,581
We're kindred spirits.
463
00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,796
Stop calling it depression!
464
00:17:11,858 --> 00:17:13,659
You don't even know what it is!
465
00:17:13,709 --> 00:17:15,772
Neither do you 'cause
you're too afraid to find out.
466
00:17:15,829 --> 00:17:17,868
Oh, Lord, what do you want from me?!
467
00:17:17,925 --> 00:17:19,392
Look, it is not about being crazy.
468
00:17:19,433 --> 00:17:21,033
It is about being honest with yourself,
469
00:17:21,078 --> 00:17:24,414
and figuring out exactly what
you're feeling without judging.
470
00:17:24,506 --> 00:17:26,507
Now, you were crying
in the kitchen one minute,
471
00:17:26,562 --> 00:17:28,964
but you're willing to put on
a fake smile for the cameraman
472
00:17:29,031 --> 00:17:30,054
the next, I mean, what...
473
00:17:30,083 --> 00:17:32,094
I have to put on a fake smile!
474
00:17:32,150 --> 00:17:33,383
I'm the mom!
475
00:17:33,417 --> 00:17:34,718
I'm the wife!
476
00:17:34,755 --> 00:17:37,522
The mom has to be happy in the picture!
477
00:17:39,518 --> 00:17:42,387
Now, the dad, he can have a stain
478
00:17:42,467 --> 00:17:43,434
on his shirt.
479
00:17:43,461 --> 00:17:45,062
His eyes can be closed.
480
00:17:45,107 --> 00:17:49,110
The kids can be snot-nosed
and crying, but the mom
481
00:17:49,220 --> 00:17:52,288
has to smile for the entire family!
482
00:17:52,373 --> 00:17:53,740
No matter what!
483
00:17:53,778 --> 00:17:55,913
No, no, I do not want to do this.
484
00:17:55,972 --> 00:17:58,373
Well, we're already doing it, Cynthia.
485
00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,174
Look, your feelings are valid.
486
00:18:00,222 --> 00:18:01,222
So, open up.
487
00:18:01,251 --> 00:18:02,985
Your-your family can handle it.
488
00:18:03,033 --> 00:18:05,434
Um... no...
489
00:18:10,127 --> 00:18:11,962
I actually can't handle it.
490
00:18:12,013 --> 00:18:13,981
Okay, no, Ma, we can handle it.
491
00:18:14,036 --> 00:18:15,370
We're here. We're listening.
492
00:18:15,408 --> 00:18:19,878
Well, it's just so hard
to explain, Jerrod.
493
00:18:20,001 --> 00:18:23,503
I mean, like, the other day,
I-I stopped at Wendy's,
494
00:18:23,599 --> 00:18:25,699
and I knew Bobby's order
because he always get
495
00:18:25,700 --> 00:18:27,301
that Junior Bacon and a Frosty,
496
00:18:27,346 --> 00:18:29,313
and-and-and Jerrod always says
497
00:18:29,367 --> 00:18:30,590
that he doesn't eat fast food,
498
00:18:30,625 --> 00:18:32,036
but he like that Crispy Chicken
499
00:18:32,075 --> 00:18:34,410
and Joe, he likes the Double Stack.
500
00:18:34,475 --> 00:18:36,976
Well, I usually just eat
whatever they have left over,
501
00:18:37,045 --> 00:18:40,281
you know, but then I was
at the window and...
502
00:18:40,371 --> 00:18:43,974
and I-I realized...
503
00:18:44,073 --> 00:18:45,239
I didn't even know
504
00:18:45,272 --> 00:18:47,807
my own order without theirs.
505
00:18:47,877 --> 00:18:51,914
I'm a grown woman and
I don't know what I like
506
00:18:52,025 --> 00:18:54,091
at Wendy's.
507
00:18:55,656 --> 00:18:59,726
That's the saddest thing
I ever heard in my life.
508
00:19:02,067 --> 00:19:03,869
I think it's amazing.
509
00:19:03,919 --> 00:19:07,821
This woman just said she don't
know how to order from Wendy's.
510
00:19:09,470 --> 00:19:11,939
You know, you really can't
go wrong with anything
511
00:19:12,008 --> 00:19:14,375
on that value menu, baby.
512
00:19:15,778 --> 00:19:18,413
Glad you're taking the right
things away from this, Dad.
513
00:19:19,686 --> 00:19:21,254
Cynthia, this is great.
514
00:19:21,297 --> 00:19:22,897
Now, it's not about Wendy's.
515
00:19:22,942 --> 00:19:24,576
You're thinking about yourself
516
00:19:24,622 --> 00:19:26,456
and your needs for the first time
517
00:19:26,507 --> 00:19:28,508
in who knows how long.
518
00:19:28,563 --> 00:19:30,264
That is a huge breakthrough.
519
00:19:30,312 --> 00:19:32,313
Well...
520
00:19:32,368 --> 00:19:34,236
(sighs)
521
00:19:34,288 --> 00:19:36,289
...it does feel good to talk about it.
522
00:19:36,345 --> 00:19:37,645
Well, great.
523
00:19:37,682 --> 00:19:39,149
Let's-let's keep going.
524
00:19:39,190 --> 00:19:41,091
Oh, no, Maxine.
525
00:19:41,144 --> 00:19:43,911
I'm going over to Wendy's.
526
00:19:48,204 --> 00:19:51,073
I'm gonna order everything on that menu
527
00:19:51,152 --> 00:19:55,921
until I figure out what
Cynthia likes to eat.
528
00:20:02,360 --> 00:20:04,195
You are good, Maxine.
529
00:20:04,246 --> 00:20:05,847
You are good.
530
00:20:05,892 --> 00:20:06,892
I know.
531
00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,120
(laughs)
532
00:20:08,154 --> 00:20:10,889
Cracked her open like a nut.
533
00:20:10,965 --> 00:20:12,732
I'm conflicted.
534
00:20:12,781 --> 00:20:15,783
A part of me is excited
for her breakthrough,
535
00:20:15,866 --> 00:20:17,534
but the other part of me
536
00:20:17,580 --> 00:20:20,282
kind of wants to go to Wendy's.
537
00:20:20,357 --> 00:20:23,125
Joe, let her have this one.
538
00:20:23,202 --> 00:20:25,136
I mean...
539
00:20:25,189 --> 00:20:29,493
we could just go to a
different Wendy's, right?
540
00:20:29,612 --> 00:20:32,180
See, this is what I'm
talking about, Maxine.
541
00:20:32,251 --> 00:20:33,918
Jerrod just had a breakthrough.
542
00:20:33,964 --> 00:20:36,427
Everybody's having
a breakthrough today.
543
00:20:36,496 --> 00:20:37,634
Let's go to Wendy's.
544
00:20:38,596 --> 00:20:41,399
It feels so good to open up like this.
545
00:20:41,477 --> 00:20:44,212
You know, I smoked through
both my pregnancies.
546
00:20:44,288 --> 00:20:45,422
(sighs)
547
00:20:45,453 --> 00:20:48,221
Oh, I never told anybody that before.
548
00:20:48,298 --> 00:20:50,566
All right, well,
our time is up for today.
549
00:20:50,629 --> 00:20:52,496
I told my husband that I didn't
550
00:20:52,548 --> 00:20:54,716
with the second baby, but I did.
551
00:20:54,776 --> 00:20:56,177
Oh. You know, and I'm afraid that
552
00:20:56,216 --> 00:20:59,351
that's why Jerrod is having
trouble gaining weight.
553
00:20:59,438 --> 00:21:01,539
I'm sorry, we're gonna
need to leave it here.
554
00:21:01,597 --> 00:21:03,632
Keep the meter running.
555
00:21:03,689 --> 00:21:08,259
Now, I know you're gonna
say that the jury was out
556
00:21:08,384 --> 00:21:10,819
on smoking while pregnant,
but it wasn't.
557
00:21:10,887 --> 00:21:13,989
I was sucking that hot
fire into my body.
558
00:21:14,075 --> 00:21:16,209
It's pretty obvious it wasn't healthy.
559
00:21:16,268 --> 00:21:18,970
Ooh, I sure do like this talking!
560
00:21:19,045 --> 00:21:21,179
It makes you feel good!
561
00:21:21,238 --> 00:21:23,039
You know, I don't have many friends,
562
00:21:23,089 --> 00:21:26,057
but the one I have,
Sylvia, both of her sons...
563
00:21:26,107 --> 00:21:30,657
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