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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,106 Right now I'd like you to meet a young lady, 2 00:01:04,141 --> 00:01:05,763 a very lovely young lady, 3 00:01:05,798 --> 00:01:08,110 that I really think has what it takes to be around 4 00:01:08,145 --> 00:01:10,768 for a long, long time to come. 5 00:01:10,803 --> 00:01:13,633 I'd like you to meet Ms. Linda Ronstadt. 6 00:01:17,879 --> 00:01:20,019 ~ Feelin' better ~ 7 00:01:20,053 --> 00:01:22,159 ~ Now that we're through ~ 8 00:01:22,193 --> 00:01:24,023 ~ Feelin' better ~ 9 00:01:24,057 --> 00:01:26,681 ~ 'Cause I'm over you ~ 10 00:01:26,715 --> 00:01:28,648 ~ I learned my lesson ~ 11 00:01:28,683 --> 00:01:30,788 ~ It left a scar ~ 12 00:01:30,823 --> 00:01:34,378 ~ Now I see How you really are ~ 13 00:01:34,412 --> 00:01:36,725 ~ You're no good You're no good ~ 14 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,867 ~ You're no good Baby, you're no good ~ 15 00:01:41,350 --> 00:01:43,387 ~ I'm gonna say it again ~ 16 00:01:43,421 --> 00:01:45,665 ~ You're no good You're no good ~ 17 00:01:45,700 --> 00:01:48,737 ~ You're no good Baby, you're no good ~ 18 00:01:48,772 --> 00:01:50,394 Here's a gal who really sings great. 19 00:01:50,428 --> 00:01:53,293 We had her on the show last year and she was sensational. 20 00:01:54,156 --> 00:01:56,331 My first guest occupies a prominent place 21 00:01:56,365 --> 00:01:57,988 in the Top 40 record charts 22 00:01:58,022 --> 00:01:59,714 and she has a big one right now. 23 00:01:59,748 --> 00:02:02,026 Linda Ronstadt is one of the really great talents 24 00:02:02,061 --> 00:02:02,993 in country music. 25 00:02:03,027 --> 00:02:05,202 Would you welcome please Linda Ronstadt. 26 00:02:05,236 --> 00:02:06,962 Ladies and gentlemen, Ms. Linda Ronstadt. 27 00:02:06,997 --> 00:02:10,483 ~ Now baby and I'm going my way ~ 28 00:02:10,517 --> 00:02:12,416 ~ Forget about you, baby ~ 29 00:02:12,450 --> 00:02:14,383 ~ 'Cause I'm leavin' To stay ~ 30 00:02:14,418 --> 00:02:15,730 ~ You're no good... ~ 31 00:02:15,764 --> 00:02:19,216 Linda could literally sing anything. 32 00:02:19,250 --> 00:02:20,735 ~ No good ~ 33 00:02:20,769 --> 00:02:23,427 I don't think anybody has tried more different styles 34 00:02:23,461 --> 00:02:25,429 and nailed it than Linda has. 35 00:02:26,223 --> 00:02:29,433 There's not that many people that can pull off new wave music 36 00:02:29,467 --> 00:02:32,125 and rock and the most beautiful country ballads. 37 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,162 Her range is huge. 38 00:02:35,266 --> 00:02:37,890 She decided what she wanted to do. 39 00:02:39,512 --> 00:02:43,033 More important what she was authentic at doing. 40 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,345 And they always told her no, you can't do this, 41 00:02:45,380 --> 00:02:46,484 you'll ruin your career. 42 00:02:46,519 --> 00:02:48,003 She did it anyway. 43 00:02:48,038 --> 00:02:51,110 ~ Good ~ 44 00:03:08,852 --> 00:03:11,233 Someone once asked why people sing. 45 00:03:13,408 --> 00:03:15,790 I answered that they sing for any of the same reasons 46 00:03:15,824 --> 00:03:17,136 birds sing. 47 00:03:18,827 --> 00:03:20,277 They sing for a mate. 48 00:03:21,899 --> 00:03:23,452 To claim their territory. 49 00:03:25,178 --> 00:03:27,318 Or simply to give voice to the delight of being alive 50 00:03:27,353 --> 00:03:29,389 in the midst of a beautiful day. 51 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,429 They sing so the subsequent generations won't forget what 52 00:03:34,463 --> 00:03:38,467 the current generations endured or dreamed or delighted in. 53 00:03:42,540 --> 00:03:44,957 There are a lot of really good singers out in the world. 54 00:03:45,405 --> 00:03:47,545 A lot of better singers than I am. 55 00:03:50,031 --> 00:03:52,481 What I did that was different from other singers, 56 00:03:52,516 --> 00:03:55,001 I did a whole lot of different kinds of material. 57 00:03:56,554 --> 00:03:58,902 People would think that I was trying to reinvent myself 58 00:03:58,936 --> 00:04:00,558 but I never invented myself to start with. 59 00:04:00,593 --> 00:04:03,044 I just kind of popped out into the world. 60 00:04:10,223 --> 00:04:11,984 My mom grew up in Michigan. 61 00:04:13,606 --> 00:04:15,401 Her dad was an inventor. 62 00:04:16,540 --> 00:04:18,542 He was the third to Thomas Edison in the number 63 00:04:18,576 --> 00:04:21,165 of useful inventions in the 50s. 64 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:25,549 He invented the electric stove, the electric toaster. 65 00:04:28,207 --> 00:04:30,278 The thermostat for Westinghouse. 66 00:04:33,557 --> 00:04:35,559 But my grandmother had Parkinson's disease 67 00:04:35,593 --> 00:04:38,424 and he spent all his money trying to find a cure. 68 00:04:39,874 --> 00:04:41,496 And that's what I have now. 69 00:04:44,671 --> 00:04:46,604 My mom was really smart too. 70 00:04:46,950 --> 00:04:48,848 She wanted to study math and physics 71 00:04:48,883 --> 00:04:51,575 and the University of Arizona was really good for that. 72 00:04:51,609 --> 00:04:54,578 She came out to Tucson where she met my father. 73 00:04:55,993 --> 00:04:57,926 My great grandfather Frederick Ronstadt 74 00:04:57,961 --> 00:05:00,618 came from Germany to Mexico in 1839. 75 00:05:01,171 --> 00:05:05,140 My father's father, Frederico, moved to Tucson when he was 14 76 00:05:05,175 --> 00:05:06,935 to work as a wagon maker. 77 00:05:07,315 --> 00:05:09,282 But his true passion was music. 78 00:05:13,977 --> 00:05:17,428 So he started the Club Filharmonico Tucsonense. 79 00:05:18,498 --> 00:05:20,915 He was the one who wrote the arrangements 80 00:05:20,949 --> 00:05:23,227 and taught everybody how to play their instruments. 81 00:05:23,469 --> 00:05:25,160 He was like the Music Man. 82 00:05:25,609 --> 00:05:27,162 If you wanted to serenade your sweetheart, 83 00:05:27,197 --> 00:05:29,578 you'd get my grandfather's band to go. 84 00:05:29,958 --> 00:05:32,098 And if you had a wedding or a funeral, 85 00:05:32,133 --> 00:05:33,513 well, they'd show up for that. 86 00:05:36,723 --> 00:05:40,210 First time my mother ever saw my dad he was riding his horse 87 00:05:40,244 --> 00:05:42,453 up the steps of her sorority house. 88 00:05:44,731 --> 00:05:47,562 My dad had a lovely baritone tenor voice 89 00:05:47,596 --> 00:05:49,598 and knew a lot of beautiful Mexican love songs 90 00:05:49,633 --> 00:05:51,669 that were rooted in his childhood. 91 00:05:54,396 --> 00:05:57,123 He serenaded my mother underneath her balcony. 92 00:06:01,093 --> 00:06:03,198 And she fell big for him. 93 00:06:06,408 --> 00:06:08,997 ~ I'm a rambler ~ 94 00:06:09,687 --> 00:06:12,000 ~ I'm a gambler ~ 95 00:06:12,690 --> 00:06:18,627 ~ I'm a long way from home ~ 96 00:06:18,662 --> 00:06:20,664 ~ If you people ~ 97 00:06:21,734 --> 00:06:24,288 ~ Don't like me ~ 98 00:06:24,323 --> 00:06:30,363 ~ You can leave me alone ~ 99 00:06:31,330 --> 00:06:33,090 I grew up in Tucson 100 00:06:33,125 --> 00:06:36,093 on the last ten acres of my grandfather's cattle ranch. 101 00:06:36,507 --> 00:06:39,994 We were very isolated so if you wanted entertainment 102 00:06:40,028 --> 00:06:41,996 you kind of had to make your own. 103 00:06:44,274 --> 00:06:46,932 There was a lot of music going on in that house. 104 00:06:47,518 --> 00:06:49,210 Some of it came in through the radio. 105 00:06:49,244 --> 00:06:51,591 That was my best friend in the world. 106 00:06:52,213 --> 00:06:53,559 ~ How's about cooking... ~ 107 00:06:53,593 --> 00:06:56,251 We had an amazing radio in Tucson 108 00:06:56,286 --> 00:06:58,426 because it was really close to the border. 109 00:07:04,604 --> 00:07:06,296 We could get the Louisiana Hayride. 110 00:07:06,330 --> 00:07:09,161 ~ Get goin' Louisiana Hayride ~ 111 00:07:09,195 --> 00:07:12,371 ~ No use for callin' de roll ~ 112 00:07:12,405 --> 00:07:14,235 ~ Can't help... ~ 113 00:07:14,269 --> 00:07:15,512 American standards. 114 00:07:15,546 --> 00:07:19,619 ~ ...loving that man of mine ~ 115 00:07:19,654 --> 00:07:21,173 But my grandmother and grandfather 116 00:07:21,207 --> 00:07:23,209 were classical music devotees. 117 00:07:28,525 --> 00:07:30,768 So I would go over to their house on Saturday morning 118 00:07:30,803 --> 00:07:34,669 and listen to a live broadcast from the Metropolitan Opera 119 00:07:35,359 --> 00:07:37,430 and come home and my dad would be playing Mexican songs 120 00:07:37,465 --> 00:07:39,398 on the piano. My mom would be playing 121 00:07:39,432 --> 00:07:41,400 some Gilbert and Sullivan piece. 122 00:07:41,434 --> 00:07:44,403 ~ True peace of mind ~ 123 00:07:44,610 --> 00:07:46,198 My sister loved Hank Williams. 124 00:07:46,232 --> 00:07:48,131 She loved country music. 125 00:07:48,338 --> 00:07:50,305 ~ I can't help it ~ 126 00:07:50,340 --> 00:07:54,413 ~ If I'm still in love With you ~ 127 00:07:54,447 --> 00:07:57,071 My brother would be singing really high soprano. 128 00:07:58,796 --> 00:08:03,042 He was in a world-class boys choir and he was their soloist. 129 00:08:03,387 --> 00:08:06,252 She wanted to know how to sing so I taught here. 130 00:08:06,287 --> 00:08:08,185 So she learned about vibrato and all that kind of stuff 131 00:08:08,220 --> 00:08:10,256 when she was like five, six years old. 132 00:08:12,879 --> 00:08:15,572 We learned so much about singing from each other. 133 00:08:16,331 --> 00:08:19,369 It was completely incorporated into what we did. 134 00:08:19,403 --> 00:08:22,165 We sang at the dinner table, we sang in the car, 135 00:08:22,199 --> 00:08:24,339 we sang with our hands in the dishwater. 136 00:08:25,168 --> 00:08:28,654 I thought Spanish was this magical musical language. 137 00:08:30,690 --> 00:08:33,107 When I was growing up I thought people sang in Spanish 138 00:08:33,141 --> 00:08:34,591 and spoke in English. 139 00:08:35,523 --> 00:08:37,801 If you spoke Spanish on the playground you'd be punished. 140 00:08:37,835 --> 00:08:39,665 You weren't allowed to do it. 141 00:08:43,462 --> 00:08:45,084 My sister and brother and I eventually formed 142 00:08:45,119 --> 00:08:46,396 a little group. We called ourselves 143 00:08:46,430 --> 00:08:48,501 The New Union Ramblers. 144 00:08:48,536 --> 00:08:50,641 We thought that sounded folky. 145 00:08:51,642 --> 00:08:55,439 Bobby Kimmel was a guitar player that I met in Tucson. 146 00:08:55,474 --> 00:08:57,683 He wrote songs about his own life. 147 00:08:58,339 --> 00:09:00,789 I remember them being one of the best vocal groups 148 00:09:00,824 --> 00:09:02,377 I had ever heard. 149 00:09:05,656 --> 00:09:07,762 Bobby joined our family group 150 00:09:07,796 --> 00:09:11,110 and then he and I used to play as a duet sometimes. 151 00:09:13,457 --> 00:09:15,735 We played little clubs in Tucson but there wasn't very much 152 00:09:15,770 --> 00:09:17,737 opportunity for us there. 153 00:09:20,326 --> 00:09:23,847 At some point reality stepped in and my sister had three kids. 154 00:09:25,193 --> 00:09:27,782 And then my brother went to work for the police department. 155 00:09:30,474 --> 00:09:32,856 Bobby wanted to earn some money playing music. 156 00:09:33,857 --> 00:09:35,893 So he went off to California. 157 00:09:37,378 --> 00:09:39,380 And I was the last man standing. 158 00:09:40,898 --> 00:09:44,764 ~ All the leaves are brown ~ 159 00:09:45,213 --> 00:09:48,699 I went to LA with the intention of forming a band. 160 00:09:50,287 --> 00:09:54,429 When I saw the quality of the singers that were out there 161 00:09:54,464 --> 00:09:56,914 I started writing to Linda saying 162 00:09:56,949 --> 00:10:01,919 if you come out we could form a band and get a record deal. 163 00:10:03,749 --> 00:10:05,923 I knew they had more clubs to play in Los Angeles. 164 00:10:05,958 --> 00:10:07,304 ~ California dreaming ~ 165 00:10:10,169 --> 00:10:12,482 I was telling her this is kind of an iffy thing. 166 00:10:12,516 --> 00:10:14,277 You might starve to death or you might find yourself 167 00:10:14,311 --> 00:10:16,555 washing dishes and waiting tables 168 00:10:16,589 --> 00:10:18,350 before you ever get discovered. 169 00:10:18,384 --> 00:10:20,490 She says I'm willing to take the chance. 170 00:10:22,008 --> 00:10:23,872 I was 18 years old. 171 00:10:25,253 --> 00:10:27,635 We had a house on the beach for 80 bucks a month 172 00:10:27,669 --> 00:10:28,946 in Santa Monica. 173 00:10:29,326 --> 00:10:31,294 We split the rent three ways. 174 00:10:31,328 --> 00:10:34,435 It was just great. It was right on the beach. 175 00:10:37,817 --> 00:10:40,855 Once she got there we got to work right away 176 00:10:40,889 --> 00:10:43,202 and we used to practice every day. 177 00:10:46,930 --> 00:10:48,966 Bobby introduced me to a really good guitar player 178 00:10:49,001 --> 00:10:51,486 named Kenny Edwards and we formed a little band 179 00:10:51,521 --> 00:10:53,592 and we called ourselves The Stone Ponies. 180 00:10:53,626 --> 00:10:55,525 ~ Look out your window ~ 181 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,562 ~ The rain is turning Into snow ~ 182 00:10:59,460 --> 00:11:01,358 We started playing little beatnik dives 183 00:11:01,393 --> 00:11:04,223 and strange pizza parlors, wherever we could get a job. 184 00:11:04,465 --> 00:11:06,363 ~ Oh how you love me... ~ 185 00:11:06,398 --> 00:11:09,780 There was the trip where I heard this band called The Byrds. 186 00:11:09,815 --> 00:11:11,472 They had a light show 187 00:11:11,506 --> 00:11:14,268 and a lot of acid tripping kind of stuff going on. 188 00:11:15,924 --> 00:11:17,823 The Whiskey A Go Go was very rock and roll. 189 00:11:17,857 --> 00:11:19,583 I heard the Doors there and I thought 190 00:11:19,618 --> 00:11:22,517 oh they're be a really hit band if they get rid of their singer. 191 00:11:23,069 --> 00:11:25,831 ~ Go, love Open up the door... ~ 192 00:11:26,728 --> 00:11:28,420 There was the Ash Grove. 193 00:11:28,454 --> 00:11:30,974 That was where you go for authentic folk music. 194 00:11:31,423 --> 00:11:32,941 It's where I first heard Ry Cooder. 195 00:11:32,976 --> 00:11:38,671 ~ Have you seen that vigilante man? ~ 196 00:11:40,742 --> 00:11:42,986 Ry Cooder was then and now the most amazing guitar player 197 00:11:43,020 --> 00:11:44,608 I've ever heard. 198 00:11:44,643 --> 00:11:46,541 I knew that had good musicians in Los Angeles 199 00:11:46,576 --> 00:11:48,302 but this guy is really something. 200 00:11:48,336 --> 00:11:49,613 I thought I'm staying here. 201 00:11:49,648 --> 00:11:51,512 I'm not going back to Tucson to live. 202 00:11:51,546 --> 00:11:54,273 ~ All over the land ~ 203 00:11:59,382 --> 00:12:02,316 She came to Los Angeles at a time 204 00:12:02,350 --> 00:12:05,629 when the LA rock and roll scene was in gear and was going. 205 00:12:05,664 --> 00:12:08,356 Because, see, after The Byrds did their thing 206 00:12:08,391 --> 00:12:09,737 with Mr. Tambourine Man, 207 00:12:09,771 --> 00:12:11,842 then the whole damn thing broke loose 208 00:12:11,877 --> 00:12:14,362 and all the record companies when scurrying around 209 00:12:14,397 --> 00:12:18,366 like headless chickens trying to figure out what to do. 210 00:12:18,401 --> 00:12:20,299 Who can sing folk rock 211 00:12:20,334 --> 00:12:24,338 and how can we define what this thing is going to be? 212 00:12:25,339 --> 00:12:29,377 ~ Hey Mr. Tambourine Man ~ 213 00:12:29,412 --> 00:12:31,310 ~ Play a song for me ~ 214 00:12:31,345 --> 00:12:32,760 There was a lot of cross pollination 215 00:12:32,794 --> 00:12:35,383 that started happening in the mid-60s, you know, 216 00:12:35,418 --> 00:12:38,455 country music and folk music and rock music started 217 00:12:38,490 --> 00:12:42,425 commingling and blending and you would get all these hybrids. 218 00:12:44,565 --> 00:12:47,740 The Troubadour, just a few blocks from Hollywood Boulevard, 219 00:12:47,775 --> 00:12:50,502 is known as an avant garde cafe. 220 00:12:50,536 --> 00:12:53,815 It's the favorite of Hollywood's young and young at heart. 221 00:12:54,747 --> 00:12:56,818 The Troubadour was where everybody went to hang out 222 00:12:56,853 --> 00:12:58,095 and to be noticed. 223 00:12:58,130 --> 00:13:00,443 You wanted to make yourself known to the record community at 224 00:13:00,477 --> 00:13:03,894 large, you go to the Troubadour, play an open mic night. 225 00:13:04,861 --> 00:13:06,725 I can't even name all the great songwriters 226 00:13:06,759 --> 00:13:08,002 that came through there. 227 00:13:08,036 --> 00:13:10,763 I mean, Laura Nyro, Neil Young, 228 00:13:10,798 --> 00:13:12,765 Joni Mitchell, Tim Hardin, 229 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,355 Kris Kristofferson, Rick Nelson, Elton John, 230 00:13:16,390 --> 00:13:17,805 Jackson Browne. 231 00:13:17,839 --> 00:13:19,979 It was just week after week of amazing, 232 00:13:20,014 --> 00:13:21,981 game-changing songwriters. 233 00:13:22,430 --> 00:13:25,088 ~ Some of them were dreamers ~ 234 00:13:26,779 --> 00:13:29,748 ~ Some of them were fools ~ 235 00:13:30,507 --> 00:13:32,854 ~ Who were making plans ~ 236 00:13:32,889 --> 00:13:35,823 ~ And thinking of the future ~ 237 00:13:36,064 --> 00:13:38,412 I mean, you tried to get a gig at the Troubadour. 238 00:13:38,446 --> 00:13:40,414 You wanted to play the Troubadour. 239 00:13:40,448 --> 00:13:43,417 All kinds of industry people hung around in the bar. 240 00:13:43,727 --> 00:13:45,419 The Troubadour is important because 241 00:13:45,453 --> 00:13:46,903 that's where you can get seen. 242 00:13:46,937 --> 00:13:48,560 It was the place to play. 243 00:13:48,594 --> 00:13:50,078 Like the minor leagues in baseball. 244 00:13:50,113 --> 00:13:52,909 This was your chance, this was your great chance. 245 00:13:53,979 --> 00:13:56,430 The Troubadour was a bustling place. 246 00:13:56,464 --> 00:13:59,743 They had a hootenanny night where new artists would come 247 00:13:59,778 --> 00:14:02,677 and sing a few songs and I used to go to every hootenanny night 248 00:14:02,712 --> 00:14:04,748 to see if there was anybody really talented. 249 00:14:04,955 --> 00:14:07,544 The Hoot, the Monday night open mic Hootenanny 250 00:14:07,579 --> 00:14:09,512 where you'd wait and get on the list 251 00:14:09,546 --> 00:14:11,168 and you go up there and sing your new song. 252 00:14:27,219 --> 00:14:28,462 You got two or three songs. 253 00:14:28,496 --> 00:14:31,465 If you were no good you probably didn't last the second song 254 00:14:31,499 --> 00:14:34,468 because were, "Hey, get off!" 255 00:14:34,502 --> 00:14:36,642 And maybe not even the first song. 256 00:14:37,781 --> 00:14:44,443 ~ Oh, you and I, travel to the Beat of a different drum... ~ 257 00:14:44,478 --> 00:14:45,927 I heard a song called Different Drum 258 00:14:45,962 --> 00:14:48,240 by this bluegrass group called The Greenbriar Boys. 259 00:14:48,274 --> 00:14:50,518 ~ Every time you make... ~ 260 00:14:50,553 --> 00:14:52,071 It was written by Mike Nesmith 261 00:14:52,106 --> 00:14:54,142 who was eventually going to join the Monkees. 262 00:14:54,177 --> 00:14:59,527 ~ You cry and moan And say it will work out ~ 263 00:14:59,872 --> 00:15:03,669 ~ But honey child I've got my doubts ~ 264 00:15:03,704 --> 00:15:07,432 ~ You can't see the forest For the trees ~ 265 00:15:08,950 --> 00:15:13,092 ~ So don't get me wrong It's not that I knock it ~ 266 00:15:13,127 --> 00:15:16,510 ~ it's just that I am not In the market ~ 267 00:15:16,544 --> 00:15:22,861 ~ For a boy who wants To love only me ~ 268 00:15:23,102 --> 00:15:25,242 We got an immediate response from managers 269 00:15:25,277 --> 00:15:27,935 and people who were interested in our career. 270 00:15:28,729 --> 00:15:31,870 Herb Cohen was managing Frank Zappa. 271 00:15:32,077 --> 00:15:34,942 We had head that he had been a soldier of fortune. 272 00:15:34,976 --> 00:15:36,978 He was have killed somebody. 273 00:15:37,013 --> 00:15:38,739 He was a badass. 274 00:15:38,773 --> 00:15:42,087 But he was established and he immediately said, 275 00:15:42,121 --> 00:15:44,123 "I can get you a record deal." 276 00:15:44,158 --> 00:15:49,543 ~ I believe And I see no sense... ~ 277 00:15:49,577 --> 00:15:53,098 We recorded a few things, just the tree of us. 278 00:15:53,132 --> 00:15:56,653 Then he took those to the people in power 279 00:15:56,688 --> 00:15:59,484 and said, "I want to record these guys." 280 00:16:01,037 --> 00:16:02,659 Capitol said okay. 281 00:16:02,694 --> 00:16:05,317 We signed papers and we were off and running. 282 00:16:05,351 --> 00:16:08,838 ~ Live without me ~ 283 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,255 So we recorded it with a mandolin 284 00:16:12,289 --> 00:16:14,740 and a couple of acoustic guitars 285 00:16:14,775 --> 00:16:16,673 and the record company didn't like it. 286 00:16:16,708 --> 00:16:19,745 And so they said well come back, we want to recut the song. 287 00:16:20,159 --> 00:16:23,646 Certainly everything changed in the studio. 288 00:16:23,922 --> 00:16:25,544 They had a bunch of strings in there 289 00:16:25,579 --> 00:16:27,650 and it was an orchestra session. I went wait a minute, 290 00:16:27,684 --> 00:16:29,168 this isn't the way I thought about the song. 291 00:16:32,413 --> 00:16:34,139 I said I don't want to put it on the record because 292 00:16:34,173 --> 00:16:36,348 that wasn't the way I'd originally envisioned it. 293 00:16:36,382 --> 00:16:41,767 ~ You and I count to the beat Of a different drum ~ 294 00:16:41,802 --> 00:16:46,082 ~ Oh can't you tell By the way I run ~ 295 00:16:46,116 --> 00:16:49,223 ~ Every time You make eyes at me ~ 296 00:16:49,257 --> 00:16:50,811 It was a good thing they didn't listen to me 297 00:16:50,845 --> 00:16:52,847 because it was a huge hit. 298 00:16:52,882 --> 00:16:55,056 I'm driving down the road, you know, in my car 299 00:16:55,091 --> 00:16:57,887 listening to KTKT radio and all of a sudden 300 00:16:57,921 --> 00:16:59,923 she's singing Different Drum. 301 00:16:59,958 --> 00:17:01,753 I said wait a minute! 302 00:17:03,617 --> 00:17:05,653 I loved her voice from the first time I heard her. 303 00:17:05,688 --> 00:17:07,344 I was a freshman in college. 304 00:17:07,379 --> 00:17:09,312 The Stone Poneys, Different Drum. 305 00:17:09,346 --> 00:17:10,762 Yeah, baby! 306 00:17:10,796 --> 00:17:12,660 It was just like wow! 307 00:17:12,695 --> 00:17:16,871 It was just like to pull back the covering 308 00:17:16,906 --> 00:17:20,219 of a fully developed vocal stylist. 309 00:17:22,394 --> 00:17:27,088 ~ Yes and I ain't sayin' You ain't pretty ~ 310 00:17:27,123 --> 00:17:30,920 ~ All I'm sayin' I'm not ready ~ 311 00:17:30,954 --> 00:17:35,062 Most of the time as a critic you're sitting there saying, 312 00:17:35,096 --> 00:17:38,099 "We don't give the artist a plus for this and a minus for this. 313 00:17:38,134 --> 00:17:40,654 This is kind of good, that's not so good." 314 00:17:40,688 --> 00:17:42,932 Bang! It was like a home run. 315 00:17:42,966 --> 00:17:44,796 ~ Goodbye! ~ 316 00:17:44,830 --> 00:17:46,245 ~ I believe in a... ~ 317 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,834 We were out on this tour 318 00:17:48,869 --> 00:17:53,114 and Herby Cohen comes to my hotel room and says, 319 00:17:53,149 --> 00:17:56,980 "I need to tell you that when we get back to LA, 320 00:17:57,015 --> 00:17:58,982 the band is breaking up." 321 00:17:59,017 --> 00:18:01,916 Everybody said, "I don't know about you two guys 322 00:18:01,951 --> 00:18:04,056 but we want the girl singer." 323 00:18:05,402 --> 00:18:08,682 The record company wanted to develop me as a solo artist. 324 00:18:09,234 --> 00:18:12,893 Kenny decided to go off to India and find a guru and meditate. 325 00:18:12,927 --> 00:18:16,344 And Bobby started a folk club in LA called McCabe's. 326 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,347 And I was left with what in the world to sing. 327 00:18:19,382 --> 00:18:20,832 I was by myself. 328 00:18:20,866 --> 00:18:23,179 A harmony singer with no material. 329 00:18:23,731 --> 00:18:26,458 The remarkable thing about the Stone Poney days was 330 00:18:26,492 --> 00:18:29,392 she had the nerve to leave a male band 331 00:18:29,426 --> 00:18:32,360 after it had already had a hit and go on her own. 332 00:18:32,395 --> 00:18:34,397 Will you welcome please Ms. Linda Ronstadt? 333 00:18:36,364 --> 00:18:38,953 Ronstadt, Ronstadt. 334 00:18:38,988 --> 00:18:41,818 Did anyone ever suggest that that isn't the most musical name 335 00:18:41,853 --> 00:18:42,992 in the world. 336 00:18:43,026 --> 00:18:46,443 That maybe you should change it to Linda Marlow or... 337 00:18:46,478 --> 00:18:47,479 Is there a Linda Marlow? 338 00:18:47,513 --> 00:18:50,896 And once they learn how to pronounce my name, 339 00:18:50,931 --> 00:18:53,209 that leads to free-for-all kinds of variations. 340 00:18:53,243 --> 00:18:55,970 Glenn Campbell once called me Linda Bedstead. 341 00:18:56,005 --> 00:18:58,007 You know, I remember you when you were nothing 342 00:18:58,041 --> 00:18:59,767 but a little Stone Poney. 343 00:18:59,802 --> 00:19:01,010 Oh yeah? 344 00:19:01,044 --> 00:19:02,494 I didn't have any idea what that means. 345 00:19:02,528 --> 00:19:05,877 I know that you were part of a group, right? 346 00:19:05,911 --> 00:19:07,706 Let's see, how do I explain this on television 347 00:19:07,741 --> 00:19:08,983 and not get yelled at. 348 00:19:09,018 --> 00:19:10,433 Oh, then maybe you don't. 349 00:19:11,814 --> 00:19:13,401 - I think I don't. - Oh, yeah? 350 00:19:13,436 --> 00:19:15,265 Oh, is it an inside meaning? 351 00:19:15,300 --> 00:19:18,061 Yeah, it has a lot of different... 352 00:19:18,096 --> 00:19:20,788 ~ Love will abide ~ 353 00:19:22,514 --> 00:19:25,828 ~ Take things in stride ~ 354 00:19:28,451 --> 00:19:32,317 ~ Sounds like good advice ~ 355 00:19:32,351 --> 00:19:36,770 ~ But there's no one At my side ~ 356 00:19:36,804 --> 00:19:41,878 ~ And time washes clean ~ 357 00:19:44,053 --> 00:19:47,125 ~ Love's wounds unseen ~ 358 00:19:50,024 --> 00:19:53,752 ~ That's what someone Told me ~ 359 00:19:53,787 --> 00:19:57,998 ~ But I don't know What it means ~ 360 00:19:58,032 --> 00:20:01,242 ~ 'Cause I've ~ 361 00:20:01,277 --> 00:20:05,039 ~ Done everything I know ~ 362 00:20:05,074 --> 00:20:08,767 ~ To try to make you mine ~ 363 00:20:09,457 --> 00:20:14,290 ~ And I think it's gonna Hurt me ~ 364 00:20:14,911 --> 00:20:19,536 ~ For a long, long time ~ 365 00:20:20,089 --> 00:20:25,301 ~ But I've done Everything I know ~ 366 00:20:26,026 --> 00:20:30,444 ~ To try to make you mine ~ 367 00:20:31,065 --> 00:20:35,345 ~ Think I'm gonna Love you ~ 368 00:20:36,036 --> 00:20:41,075 ~ For a long, long time ~ 369 00:20:42,076 --> 00:20:43,595 I met her in the Troubadour. 370 00:20:43,629 --> 00:20:46,460 She had this hit called Long, Long Time. 371 00:20:49,049 --> 00:20:50,567 Apparently she knew who I was 372 00:20:50,602 --> 00:20:53,432 based on a record I'd made with Ricky Nelson. 373 00:20:56,470 --> 00:21:00,163 She said I like that band you put together for Rick Nelson. 374 00:21:00,198 --> 00:21:01,924 Could you do that for me? 375 00:21:02,269 --> 00:21:04,858 ~ She's got everything She needs ~ 376 00:21:04,892 --> 00:21:06,411 ~ She's an artist ~ 377 00:21:06,445 --> 00:21:09,172 ~ She don't look back ~ 378 00:21:10,035 --> 00:21:12,486 Herby Cohen was the manager when I met her. 379 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,453 He gave me these tickets to Hawaii 380 00:21:14,488 --> 00:21:16,904 for the Capitol Records convention. 381 00:21:16,939 --> 00:21:19,286 Linda and I show up at San Francisco Airport 382 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:23,290 to fly to Honolulu and lo and behold there was the FBI 383 00:21:23,324 --> 00:21:26,362 to arrest us for receiving stolen property. 384 00:21:26,396 --> 00:21:29,365 Turns out Herby had bought the tickets in the lobby 385 00:21:29,399 --> 00:21:31,470 of the building from some guy 386 00:21:31,505 --> 00:21:34,370 probably for 25 cents on the dollar 387 00:21:34,404 --> 00:21:36,441 and they were hotter than a two-dollar pistol. 388 00:21:36,475 --> 00:21:39,962 So we spent the day in jail. 389 00:21:42,343 --> 00:21:45,312 She fired Herbie and asked me to fill in. 390 00:21:45,346 --> 00:21:49,626 ~ I don't want Your lonely mansion ~ 391 00:21:49,661 --> 00:21:51,456 I was walking through the Troubadour one night 392 00:21:51,490 --> 00:21:53,320 on my way to the bathroom. 393 00:21:54,908 --> 00:21:57,911 This band Shiloh got up and did my exact version 394 00:21:57,945 --> 00:21:59,671 of Silver Threads and Golden Needles. 395 00:21:59,705 --> 00:22:03,192 ~ Silver Threads And Golden Needles ~ 396 00:22:03,226 --> 00:22:04,400 I just went, "What?" 397 00:22:04,434 --> 00:22:06,505 Does, you know, that solo, I thought, God! 398 00:22:06,540 --> 00:22:08,542 I was appalled that anyone would actually sit down 399 00:22:08,576 --> 00:22:12,477 with one of my records and learn the solo off it 400 00:22:12,511 --> 00:22:14,720 like a Led Zeppelin record. 401 00:22:14,755 --> 00:22:17,378 And I heard the drummer and I thought he was really good. 402 00:22:17,413 --> 00:22:19,933 The drummer was a guy named Don Henley. 403 00:22:20,312 --> 00:22:23,591 Linda's first solo album came out in '69 404 00:22:23,626 --> 00:22:27,112 and I moved to LA in June of 1970. 405 00:22:27,630 --> 00:22:30,253 So my timing was pretty good. 406 00:22:30,529 --> 00:22:32,600 She'd had a bunch of dates back East 407 00:22:32,635 --> 00:22:34,948 and we needed to put the band together quickly. 408 00:22:34,982 --> 00:22:37,882 So I hired him for $250 a week. 409 00:22:45,096 --> 00:22:46,925 ~ Rescue me ~ 410 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,547 ~ I want you in my arms ~ 411 00:22:48,582 --> 00:22:50,446 ~ Rescue me ~ 412 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,310 ~ I need your tender charm ~ 413 00:22:52,344 --> 00:22:54,174 ~ 'Cause I'm lonely ~ 414 00:22:54,208 --> 00:22:56,314 I knew who she was because I had her album. 415 00:22:56,728 --> 00:22:59,179 I listened to that album a hundred times. 416 00:23:00,663 --> 00:23:04,184 She could seem vulnerable and very feminine 417 00:23:04,218 --> 00:23:08,257 but when she opened her mouth to sing everything got different. 418 00:23:08,291 --> 00:23:10,535 It was just incredible. 419 00:23:11,536 --> 00:23:14,746 You knew that there was a very solid core 420 00:23:14,780 --> 00:23:16,748 and a very determined woman. 421 00:23:27,483 --> 00:23:29,416 Just saw her walking past me in the Troubadour 422 00:23:29,450 --> 00:23:30,520 and she looked so cute. 423 00:23:30,555 --> 00:23:32,005 I just grabbed her by the hand 424 00:23:32,039 --> 00:23:33,938 and I said I think you should cook me dinner. 425 00:23:34,766 --> 00:23:37,251 And she said okay and gave me her phone number. 426 00:23:37,596 --> 00:23:39,771 So I called her a couple days 427 00:23:39,805 --> 00:23:41,462 and I said, "Well, you gonna cook me dinner?" 428 00:23:41,497 --> 00:23:43,395 She goes, "Sure, come on over." I came on over 429 00:23:43,430 --> 00:23:46,088 and she made me a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. 430 00:23:47,020 --> 00:23:49,056 And I fell in love with her. 431 00:23:49,091 --> 00:23:51,093 Took her home and the next day I said, 432 00:23:51,127 --> 00:23:52,439 "Listen, let's go get your stuff. 433 00:23:52,473 --> 00:23:53,785 You can live here with me." 434 00:23:53,819 --> 00:23:57,133 ~ I got a feeling called The blues, oh Lord ~ 435 00:23:57,168 --> 00:23:59,791 ~ Since my baby Said goodbye ~ 436 00:23:59,825 --> 00:24:02,449 John David Souther and Linda Ronstadt. 437 00:24:02,483 --> 00:24:03,691 They were a hot couple. 438 00:24:03,726 --> 00:24:06,625 ~ All I do is sit and cry Oh Lord ~ 439 00:24:06,660 --> 00:24:09,766 ~ That last long day he said goodbye ~ 440 00:24:09,801 --> 00:24:13,149 JD had had a musical duo with a guy named Glenn Frey. 441 00:24:16,290 --> 00:24:19,397 He was by best friend and first songwriting partner. 442 00:24:21,192 --> 00:24:23,780 We really did nothing but just listen to music and play guitars 443 00:24:23,815 --> 00:24:27,129 and try to write songs and then go to the Troubadour. 444 00:24:28,820 --> 00:24:31,202 Glenn Frey played pretty good guitar. 445 00:24:31,512 --> 00:24:33,031 So I went and talked to Glenn and said, 446 00:24:33,066 --> 00:24:34,791 "Do you want to do this tour with me?" 447 00:24:34,826 --> 00:24:36,655 He said it would be really cool. 448 00:24:36,690 --> 00:24:39,072 He'd never been on the road before. 449 00:24:40,107 --> 00:24:42,730 Glenn Frey and I shared the $12 hotel room 450 00:24:42,765 --> 00:24:44,629 with two twin beds in it. 451 00:24:44,870 --> 00:24:46,562 It was a very modest tour. 452 00:24:46,596 --> 00:24:48,564 I mean, I remember being in station wagons. 453 00:24:51,325 --> 00:24:53,707 Rooming together, Don and Glenn each discovered 454 00:24:53,741 --> 00:24:56,296 that the other was a good singer and songwriter. 455 00:24:57,711 --> 00:25:01,473 And that's when they decided to get together and form a band. 456 00:25:01,853 --> 00:25:04,131 That band became the Eagles. 457 00:25:06,858 --> 00:25:08,342 They wished us well. 458 00:25:08,377 --> 00:25:11,725 John was very supportive, Linda was supportive 459 00:25:11,759 --> 00:25:14,383 and they basically said just go for it. 460 00:25:17,351 --> 00:25:19,526 We didn't have much success with Desperado. 461 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,598 The record company didn't know what to do with it. 462 00:25:22,632 --> 00:25:25,049 And then Linda made it into a classic. 463 00:25:25,601 --> 00:25:29,087 ~ Desperado ~ 464 00:25:29,639 --> 00:25:34,506 ~ Why don't you come To your senses ~ 465 00:25:34,541 --> 00:25:38,855 ~ Come down From your fences ~ 466 00:25:38,890 --> 00:25:42,652 ~ And open the gate ~ 467 00:25:42,687 --> 00:25:45,069 ~ It may be raining ~ 468 00:25:46,277 --> 00:25:50,419 ~ But there's a rainbow Above you ~ 469 00:25:50,798 --> 00:25:55,217 ~ You better let somebody Love you ~ 470 00:25:55,562 --> 00:25:58,772 ~ ~ 471 00:25:59,497 --> 00:26:04,536 ~ Let somebody love you ~ 472 00:26:05,951 --> 00:26:10,611 ~ Before it is too ~ 473 00:26:12,406 --> 00:26:15,720 ~ Late ~ 474 00:26:41,815 --> 00:26:43,575 I knew the Neil Young tour was coming 475 00:26:43,610 --> 00:26:45,750 and I thought this'll be perfect for Linda 476 00:26:45,784 --> 00:26:49,650 because she had sung backup on his big hit "Heart of Gold." 477 00:26:49,685 --> 00:26:52,619 So I called Neil's manager and I said, 478 00:26:52,653 --> 00:26:55,311 "Listen, Linda's the right opening act for this. 479 00:26:55,346 --> 00:26:56,657 You've got to help me out." 480 00:26:56,692 --> 00:26:58,901 And they said, "Well, Neil's gonna go out alone." 481 00:26:59,833 --> 00:27:02,318 ~ I want to live ~ 482 00:27:02,629 --> 00:27:05,183 ~ I want to give ~ 483 00:27:05,218 --> 00:27:08,566 Lo and behold like a week later he called me and he said, 484 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,602 "Neil's done a few dates in Canada 485 00:27:10,637 --> 00:27:12,570 and it's getting him too tired. 486 00:27:12,604 --> 00:27:14,882 He now wants an opening act and you're it. 487 00:27:14,917 --> 00:27:17,402 ~ I never give... ~ 488 00:27:18,541 --> 00:27:20,543 Linda was quite reluctant at the time. 489 00:27:20,578 --> 00:27:23,512 She was so worried about the idea of playing a huge 490 00:27:23,546 --> 00:27:26,653 hockey arena tour at that point in her career. 491 00:27:26,687 --> 00:27:29,897 But we persuaded her that this would be a good thing. 492 00:27:33,349 --> 00:27:34,626 Thank you! 493 00:27:35,489 --> 00:27:38,803 You would occasionally get somebody: "We want Neil!" 494 00:27:38,837 --> 00:27:42,979 But by the time the tour got going, she was holding her own. 495 00:27:43,325 --> 00:27:46,500 ~ I've been cheated ~ 496 00:27:46,914 --> 00:27:50,228 ~ Been mistreated ~ 497 00:27:50,677 --> 00:27:55,854 ~ When will I be loved? ~ 498 00:27:58,029 --> 00:28:01,205 ~ I've been put down ~ 499 00:28:01,688 --> 00:28:04,829 ~ I've been pushed 'round ~ 500 00:28:05,416 --> 00:28:10,524 ~ When will I be loved? ~ 501 00:28:12,871 --> 00:28:15,702 ~ When I find a new man ~ 502 00:28:16,461 --> 00:28:18,981 ~ That I want for mine ~ 503 00:28:19,982 --> 00:28:23,468 ~ Always breaks my heart In two ~ 504 00:28:23,503 --> 00:28:28,473 ~ It happens every time ~ 505 00:28:29,578 --> 00:28:31,407 ~ I've been... ~ 506 00:28:31,442 --> 00:28:34,686 Here's Linda who I'd never seen live before, 507 00:28:34,721 --> 00:28:38,276 big stage, sold out, huge place. 508 00:28:38,483 --> 00:28:42,729 She comes out there and starts singing and that voice filled 509 00:28:42,763 --> 00:28:46,319 this arena where I had seen concerts for a long time. 510 00:28:46,353 --> 00:28:48,976 Nobody filled this arena with a voice like Linda Ronstadt. 511 00:28:49,011 --> 00:28:51,324 And she just killed it. 512 00:28:51,358 --> 00:28:55,673 She slaughtered this crowd who didn't come to see her 513 00:28:55,707 --> 00:28:57,778 but they sure left knowing who she was. 514 00:29:00,436 --> 00:29:03,301 We did 78 dates in 90 days. 515 00:29:03,577 --> 00:29:06,994 We played before 18,000 to 20,000 people every night. 516 00:29:10,550 --> 00:29:13,380 We got to Houston and there was this new girl singer. 517 00:29:13,415 --> 00:29:14,692 Her name's Emmylou. 518 00:29:16,107 --> 00:29:19,628 It was 1973 during the one tour I did with Gram. 519 00:29:20,111 --> 00:29:24,011 ~ Call happy calling Children are calling ~ 520 00:29:24,046 --> 00:29:27,705 ~ In line to ride On the merry-go-round ~ 521 00:29:27,739 --> 00:29:29,500 Emmy started singing and three notes 522 00:29:29,534 --> 00:29:31,467 the entire place was dead quiet. 523 00:29:31,502 --> 00:29:33,952 It was like they had started mass or something. 524 00:29:35,022 --> 00:29:37,093 And she was beautiful, this girl with the long hair 525 00:29:37,128 --> 00:29:38,888 and big brown eyes and I thought 526 00:29:38,923 --> 00:29:41,512 she's doing exactly what I'm doing. 527 00:29:41,546 --> 00:29:42,961 She's doing it better. 528 00:29:42,996 --> 00:29:45,516 ~ Do not worry How it's done... ~ 529 00:29:45,550 --> 00:29:48,001 And for a minute I thought well I can get jealous 530 00:29:48,035 --> 00:29:50,417 and then I won't be able to enjoy her singing. 531 00:29:50,728 --> 00:29:52,730 Or I can just become a slobbering, drooling fan 532 00:29:52,764 --> 00:29:54,801 like the rest of the people in the club. 533 00:29:54,835 --> 00:29:57,528 And hope that maybe I could get her to sing with me. 534 00:29:57,562 --> 00:30:00,772 So I chose the latter as one of the best decisions I ever made. 535 00:30:00,807 --> 00:30:04,500 And Emmy and I became immediate music and social friends. 536 00:30:06,951 --> 00:30:11,852 Linda had a lot to do with lifting me up 537 00:30:11,887 --> 00:30:14,441 at a very, very low time in my life. 538 00:30:15,994 --> 00:30:19,481 I had been kind of my way working with Gram Parsons. 539 00:30:19,515 --> 00:30:21,759 I thought I'd found my voice, 540 00:30:21,793 --> 00:30:24,658 I had found something I love to do singing with him. 541 00:30:24,693 --> 00:30:26,764 ~ Love hurts ~ 542 00:30:27,972 --> 00:30:30,664 ~ Love scars ~ 543 00:30:31,769 --> 00:30:33,598 On the road to getting himself straight 544 00:30:33,633 --> 00:30:37,188 he was drinking a lot less, he was loving the work, 545 00:30:37,222 --> 00:30:40,709 we loved singing together, we had a record we'd just made, 546 00:30:40,743 --> 00:30:44,989 and apparently someone showed up with heroin 547 00:30:45,023 --> 00:30:49,683 which he hadn't done in a while and it killed him. 548 00:30:50,581 --> 00:30:53,894 It was devastating to lose him like that. 549 00:30:55,482 --> 00:30:59,590 It was Linda who stepped up as a friend 550 00:30:59,624 --> 00:31:01,695 and we had just met each other. 551 00:31:01,730 --> 00:31:06,079 She brought me out to LA, had me stay at her house 552 00:31:06,113 --> 00:31:08,253 and she talked about me to everybody. 553 00:31:08,288 --> 00:31:12,534 Said how great I was and genuinely loved my singing. 554 00:31:12,568 --> 00:31:17,159 Genuinely made me feel like I had something to offer 555 00:31:17,193 --> 00:31:20,921 at a very low time in my life. 556 00:31:21,922 --> 00:31:24,062 ~ Love hurts ~ 557 00:31:26,168 --> 00:31:28,204 ~ Save me ~ 558 00:31:28,998 --> 00:31:31,829 ~ Free me ~ 559 00:31:31,863 --> 00:31:34,832 ~ From love ~ 560 00:31:35,177 --> 00:31:37,455 ~ This time ~ 561 00:31:39,561 --> 00:31:43,737 ~ Well the train's gone ~ 562 00:31:44,117 --> 00:31:47,292 ~ Down the track ~ 563 00:31:47,327 --> 00:31:53,160 ~ and I'm I'm left behind ~ 564 00:31:55,715 --> 00:31:59,270 Linda was always very tight with her girlfriends. 565 00:31:59,304 --> 00:32:01,721 They sang together, they shared music together, she was 566 00:32:01,755 --> 00:32:03,654 supportive of me. 567 00:32:03,930 --> 00:32:08,659 I was writing songs and hoping to make my own record 568 00:32:08,693 --> 00:32:12,110 but of course Linda was really coming into her own 569 00:32:12,145 --> 00:32:14,768 and starting to be really successful. 570 00:32:16,736 --> 00:32:18,945 I think a songwriter doing their songs is different 571 00:32:18,979 --> 00:32:21,154 than a singer do their songs. 572 00:32:21,188 --> 00:32:23,881 Some people prefer the songwriter doing them, some 573 00:32:23,915 --> 00:32:26,677 people prefer Linda doing them. 574 00:32:26,918 --> 00:32:28,299 But "Lose Again" she definitely made 575 00:32:28,333 --> 00:32:30,197 into a bigger song. 576 00:32:31,923 --> 00:32:34,857 ~ But nothing can save me ~ 577 00:32:34,892 --> 00:32:36,963 ~ From this b=Ball and chain ~ 578 00:32:36,997 --> 00:32:38,482 Because I couldn't sing it like that. 579 00:32:38,516 --> 00:32:39,828 ~ I made up my mind ~ 580 00:32:41,174 --> 00:32:45,696 ~ I would leave today ~ 581 00:32:46,593 --> 00:32:50,114 I mean Linda came out and turned it into this power ballad. 582 00:32:50,563 --> 00:32:52,841 ~ I know it's insane ~ 583 00:32:53,082 --> 00:32:55,291 ~ Because I love you ~ 584 00:32:55,326 --> 00:32:59,710 ~ And lose again ~ 585 00:33:00,193 --> 00:33:03,610 ~ Oh, I love you ~ 586 00:33:03,645 --> 00:33:08,650 ~ And lose again ~ 587 00:33:16,174 --> 00:33:19,315 Back then there wasn't competition with women. 588 00:33:19,350 --> 00:33:21,041 So I think, you know, women, 589 00:33:21,076 --> 00:33:22,733 there weren't that many of us either. 590 00:33:22,767 --> 00:33:25,977 So I think there was a certain amount of banding together 591 00:33:26,012 --> 00:33:28,601 to sort of share our woman part of it. 592 00:33:28,635 --> 00:33:30,534 This is a song off our new album. 593 00:33:32,052 --> 00:33:34,779 It's about a real special place called home. 594 00:33:35,918 --> 00:33:37,851 That's a Karla Bonoff song. 595 00:33:38,783 --> 00:33:41,993 I had made a demo of Home and we sent it off to Bonnie, 596 00:33:42,028 --> 00:33:45,272 just a complete long shot, and she decided to record it. 597 00:33:45,618 --> 00:33:47,999 ~ Traveling at night ~ 598 00:33:48,897 --> 00:33:51,382 ~ The headlights Were bright ~ 599 00:33:51,416 --> 00:33:55,351 ~ And soon the sun came through the trees ~ 600 00:33:57,388 --> 00:34:00,322 ~ Around the next bend ~ 601 00:34:00,356 --> 00:34:03,359 ~ The flowers will send ~ 602 00:34:03,394 --> 00:34:07,881 ~ The sweet smell of home In the breeze ~ 603 00:34:07,916 --> 00:34:10,884 Linda and I are like sisters, around the same age 604 00:34:10,919 --> 00:34:12,886 and we were coming up and had the same mutual 605 00:34:12,921 --> 00:34:14,785 other musician friends and band members 606 00:34:14,819 --> 00:34:18,340 and, you know, it was a community of artists, 607 00:34:18,374 --> 00:34:22,033 it wasn't sexually divided between just the women and men. 608 00:34:22,068 --> 00:34:23,863 We weren't thinking in terms of that. 609 00:34:24,933 --> 00:34:28,143 Linda and Bonnie Raitt were two of the first women 610 00:34:28,177 --> 00:34:31,215 that I was able to see as a young journalist 611 00:34:31,249 --> 00:34:34,218 and study the way they operated in this community. 612 00:34:34,770 --> 00:34:37,048 We're going to move into this world where we're running bands 613 00:34:37,083 --> 00:34:40,362 with guys in them but we can also look after each other. 614 00:34:41,397 --> 00:34:44,711 I said if I can have it on my terms and you understand 615 00:34:44,746 --> 00:34:48,715 I'm not going to be told how to dress or what music to make. 616 00:34:48,750 --> 00:34:49,992 Great! 617 00:34:50,027 --> 00:34:52,892 We were all throwing away all those conventions, you know. 618 00:34:54,859 --> 00:34:57,724 The rock and roll culture is so male dominated and it also seems 619 00:34:57,759 --> 00:35:01,141 to be dominated by sort of hostility against women. 620 00:35:01,176 --> 00:35:03,143 That this sort of... 621 00:35:04,904 --> 00:35:10,047 sort of sexual identity that is sort of used as a weapon 622 00:35:10,081 --> 00:35:12,221 against the populace and women in particular 623 00:35:12,256 --> 00:35:14,189 and then everyone identifies with it. 624 00:35:14,430 --> 00:35:17,295 And it's sort of sad to me because what happens is that... 625 00:35:19,090 --> 00:35:23,716 is that rock and roll stars end up isolating themselves 626 00:35:23,750 --> 00:35:26,408 more and more and more, thereby increasing their own feelings of 627 00:35:26,442 --> 00:35:30,032 alienation and anxiety and they wonder why they're so miserable. 628 00:35:30,067 --> 00:35:33,795 That's really when they turn to drugs and destroy themselves. 629 00:35:33,829 --> 00:35:36,314 It's just very silly. It just seems very silly. 630 00:35:36,349 --> 00:35:42,804 They lose the ability to focus on themselves as a person 631 00:35:42,838 --> 00:35:47,187 rather than as an image and that's very dangerous I think. 632 00:35:47,222 --> 00:35:50,018 And there are always a lot of people around them, 633 00:35:50,052 --> 00:35:54,781 managers and scene makers, you know, groupies and whatever, 634 00:35:54,816 --> 00:35:57,750 that are willing to indulge them in anything they want. 635 00:35:57,784 --> 00:36:01,408 It weakens them, it weakens them as people 636 00:36:01,443 --> 00:36:03,687 and it eventually weakens them as musicians. 637 00:36:07,104 --> 00:36:09,347 ~ I been warped By the rain ~ 638 00:36:09,382 --> 00:36:11,004 ~ Driven by the snow ~ 639 00:36:11,039 --> 00:36:13,006 ~ I'm drunk and dirty ~ 640 00:36:13,041 --> 00:36:14,318 ~ Don't you know ~ 641 00:36:14,352 --> 00:36:16,147 ~ But I'm still ~ 642 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,772 ~ Willin' ~ 643 00:36:21,843 --> 00:36:24,949 ~ Out on the road Late last night ~ 644 00:36:24,984 --> 00:36:29,022 ~ I'd see my pretty Alice in every headlight ~ 645 00:36:29,057 --> 00:36:30,817 ~ Alice ~ 646 00:36:31,404 --> 00:36:33,889 ~ Dallas Alice ~ 647 00:36:34,510 --> 00:36:38,480 ~ And I've been from Tucson to Tucumcari ~ 648 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,346 ~ Tehachapi to Tonopah ~ 649 00:36:42,380 --> 00:36:47,040 ~ Driven every kind of rig that's ever been made ~ 650 00:36:47,385 --> 00:36:50,181 I was in New York and somebody said 651 00:36:50,216 --> 00:36:52,356 you have to go see this girl, she's amazing. 652 00:36:52,390 --> 00:36:54,772 She's one of the best singers you'll ever hear, 653 00:36:54,807 --> 00:36:56,187 she's brilliant. 654 00:36:56,878 --> 00:36:59,812 She's incredibly great looking, she sings barefoot 655 00:36:59,846 --> 00:37:03,263 and will knock you out in every respect and she did. 656 00:37:03,919 --> 00:37:09,994 ~ Whites and wine ~ 657 00:37:11,030 --> 00:37:14,033 ~ And you show me a sign ~ 658 00:37:14,550 --> 00:37:16,276 ~ And I'll be willin' ~ 659 00:37:16,311 --> 00:37:18,831 I was running the Beatles record label Apple. 660 00:37:18,865 --> 00:37:21,385 When Apple started to fall apart and the Beatles were breaking up 661 00:37:21,419 --> 00:37:24,491 and all of that I went to America 662 00:37:24,526 --> 00:37:26,390 and there I was being a manager. 663 00:37:27,632 --> 00:37:30,359 I wanted to go back to work as a record producer 664 00:37:30,394 --> 00:37:32,810 so I suggested Linda go and meet with Peter 665 00:37:32,845 --> 00:37:35,571 which we did and he agreed to manage her. 666 00:37:37,401 --> 00:37:38,851 There was a high bar there. 667 00:37:38,885 --> 00:37:40,404 Peter Asher had hung around with the Beatles. 668 00:37:40,438 --> 00:37:43,821 He expected to make records that are huge successes 669 00:37:43,856 --> 00:37:46,065 and he was poised to do that with Linda 670 00:37:46,099 --> 00:37:48,412 and Geffen was ready to be their record company 671 00:37:48,446 --> 00:37:50,172 that would be there. 672 00:37:53,141 --> 00:37:55,626 I started Asylum Records and signed Jackson Browne 673 00:37:55,660 --> 00:37:59,457 and then signing other artists and it turned into what it did. 674 00:38:02,633 --> 00:38:04,566 And I knew when I saw Linda and the Stone Poneys 675 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,533 that she was gonna make it and she was gonna make it 676 00:38:06,568 --> 00:38:10,365 as a solo artist and I knew she was going to be a big star. 677 00:38:11,228 --> 00:38:12,816 She didn't think so. 678 00:38:13,609 --> 00:38:16,060 She had very little confidence in those days. 679 00:38:18,304 --> 00:38:20,168 Linda was feeling like she wasn't good enough 680 00:38:20,202 --> 00:38:21,894 to be on Asylum Records. 681 00:38:23,412 --> 00:38:26,312 I said to her that that was crazy. 682 00:38:27,692 --> 00:38:30,074 I'm never really satisfied with what I do. 683 00:38:30,454 --> 00:38:32,490 And lots of times I hear that I did something wrong 684 00:38:32,525 --> 00:38:35,045 and it bothers me, it can ruin my day really. 685 00:38:35,355 --> 00:38:38,531 Linda never thought she was as good as she was 686 00:38:38,565 --> 00:38:41,258 and that is an interesting paradox 687 00:38:41,292 --> 00:38:43,467 because she's confident about her ideas 688 00:38:43,501 --> 00:38:46,297 but not about herself and not about her singing. 689 00:38:48,092 --> 00:38:51,337 My involvement as a producer with Linda came when she was 690 00:38:51,371 --> 00:38:54,996 having trouble finishing the album that became Don't Cry Now. 691 00:38:55,548 --> 00:38:58,551 And that's when we decided that the next album I would produce 692 00:38:58,585 --> 00:39:00,035 was Heart Like a Wheel. 693 00:39:00,070 --> 00:39:05,040 ~ Some say a heart Is just like a wheel ~ 694 00:39:05,075 --> 00:39:07,180 ~ When you bend it ~ 695 00:39:07,215 --> 00:39:08,699 ~ You can't mend it ~ 696 00:39:08,733 --> 00:39:12,254 The McGarrigle Sisters, who were these two Canadian sisters, 697 00:39:12,289 --> 00:39:13,566 they were in an odd category. 698 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,534 They didn't fit in pop music, they didn't fit in folk music, 699 00:39:16,569 --> 00:39:19,503 they didn't fit anywhere except they fit in my heart. 700 00:39:19,537 --> 00:39:20,918 We just heard Heart Like A Wheel, 701 00:39:20,953 --> 00:39:22,575 then I went I have to sing it. 702 00:39:23,645 --> 00:39:27,200 ~ When harm is done ~ 703 00:39:27,407 --> 00:39:30,652 ~ No love can be won ~ 704 00:39:30,686 --> 00:39:34,207 ~ I know it happens ~ 705 00:39:34,242 --> 00:39:37,348 ~ Frequently ~ 706 00:39:38,556 --> 00:39:40,593 ~ But I can't... ~ 707 00:39:40,627 --> 00:39:45,080 Linda has the ability to hear a song and claim it. 708 00:39:45,287 --> 00:39:47,289 You claim it as your own as a singer. 709 00:39:47,324 --> 00:39:50,258 If you love it like that you get inside it. 710 00:39:50,292 --> 00:39:51,604 You become it. 711 00:39:52,018 --> 00:39:59,198 ~ But my love for you Is like a sinking ship ~ 712 00:39:59,646 --> 00:40:07,654 ~ And my heart is on that ship out in mid-ocean ~ 713 00:40:11,451 --> 00:40:13,315 Heart Like a Wheel, she discovered that song, 714 00:40:13,350 --> 00:40:14,696 brought it to me and I loved it. 715 00:40:14,730 --> 00:40:17,285 I thought it was beautiful but I was also thinking 716 00:40:17,319 --> 00:40:19,011 in terms of we should make some hits. 717 00:40:19,045 --> 00:40:20,564 ~ Feelin' better ~ 718 00:40:20,598 --> 00:40:23,015 ~ Now that we're through ~ 719 00:40:23,049 --> 00:40:25,189 ~ Feelin' better ~ 720 00:40:25,224 --> 00:40:27,053 ~ 'Cause I'm over you ~ 721 00:40:27,088 --> 00:40:28,744 I'm a ballad singer, I like to sing ballads best 722 00:40:28,779 --> 00:40:31,575 but we needed some up-tempo songs for the record 723 00:40:31,609 --> 00:40:33,439 and as an afterthought I had this song 724 00:40:33,473 --> 00:40:36,097 that we'd used to close the show. 725 00:40:36,131 --> 00:40:37,753 ~ You're no good You're no good ~ 726 00:40:37,788 --> 00:40:41,585 ~ You're no good Baby, you're no good ~ 727 00:40:42,413 --> 00:40:44,381 ~ I'm gonna say it again ~ 728 00:40:44,415 --> 00:40:46,555 ~ You're no good You're no good ~ 729 00:40:46,590 --> 00:40:50,663 ~ You're no good Baby, you're no good ~ 730 00:40:51,284 --> 00:40:53,528 She knew and loved the song, I knew and loved the song, 731 00:40:53,562 --> 00:40:56,669 and we decided to do a version of that song. 732 00:40:59,396 --> 00:41:03,607 I stayed up all night assembling this very complicated, 733 00:41:03,641 --> 00:41:06,679 intricate layered guitar piece. 734 00:41:07,197 --> 00:41:10,510 We worked very long into like the next afternoon. 735 00:41:11,063 --> 00:41:13,444 And that's when Linda turned up and didn't like it. 736 00:41:15,136 --> 00:41:17,690 She said, "Oh, I don't like it. It sounds like the Beatles," 737 00:41:17,724 --> 00:41:19,209 which it did sound like the Beatles 738 00:41:19,243 --> 00:41:20,831 but in the end she came around and said, 739 00:41:20,865 --> 00:41:23,178 "You know what, I was wrong. It's great." 740 00:41:35,190 --> 00:41:39,746 ~ I'm tellin' you now baby And I'm going my way ~ 741 00:41:40,195 --> 00:41:45,269 ~ Forget about you, baby 'Cause I'm leaving to stay ~ 742 00:41:45,304 --> 00:41:46,753 Every song that I sing has a face 743 00:41:46,788 --> 00:41:48,652 that I sing it to, you know. 744 00:41:48,686 --> 00:41:53,277 And so when something happens to me, 745 00:41:53,312 --> 00:41:55,141 it's really funny, I know so many songs. 746 00:41:55,176 --> 00:41:56,660 When something happens to me 747 00:41:56,694 --> 00:41:58,455 the song will occur at the same time. 748 00:41:58,489 --> 00:42:00,181 I'll think oh, this song or that song, you know. 749 00:42:00,215 --> 00:42:02,459 And if it's a song I can sing then I'll have to sing it, 750 00:42:02,493 --> 00:42:05,427 I'll just burn to sing it. I can't not sing it. 751 00:42:05,462 --> 00:42:09,397 ~ I passed you on the street ~ 752 00:42:09,776 --> 00:42:13,884 ~ And my heart Fell at your feet ~ 753 00:42:13,918 --> 00:42:16,231 ~ I can't help it ~ 754 00:42:16,266 --> 00:42:20,856 ~ If I'm still In love with you ~ 755 00:42:21,754 --> 00:42:24,722 He would make the assumption that I was choosing the songs 756 00:42:24,757 --> 00:42:27,208 that we would do on these records or that I was working 757 00:42:27,242 --> 00:42:29,555 out the arrangements or this, that, and the other. 758 00:42:29,589 --> 00:42:31,384 And I would have to keep explaining that 759 00:42:31,419 --> 00:42:34,111 it was Linda and me in that order. 760 00:42:34,767 --> 00:42:38,460 ~ Still in love with you ~ 761 00:42:39,668 --> 00:42:42,257 My sister used to play all these Hank Williams records. 762 00:42:42,292 --> 00:42:44,708 So I thought I can do that. 763 00:42:44,742 --> 00:42:47,849 ~ Came slowly stealing ~ 764 00:42:49,575 --> 00:42:52,440 ~ As I brushed your arm ~ 765 00:42:52,474 --> 00:42:56,306 ~ And stood So close to you... ~ 766 00:42:56,340 --> 00:42:58,377 Linda knew a good song 767 00:42:58,411 --> 00:43:00,172 and she knew why it was good and better than that 768 00:43:00,206 --> 00:43:02,243 she knew how to sing it better than you can sing. 769 00:43:02,277 --> 00:43:06,730 When you become that sharp of a song stylist, 770 00:43:06,764 --> 00:43:09,698 you get authorship in a certain way. 771 00:43:09,733 --> 00:43:12,287 I consider her a real author. 772 00:43:12,322 --> 00:43:15,842 She didn't write songs but she made songs happen 773 00:43:15,877 --> 00:43:17,223 the way she wanted to hear them. 774 00:43:17,258 --> 00:43:22,573 ~ I can't help it if I'm still in love with you ~ 775 00:43:23,195 --> 00:43:25,266 I Can't Help it if I'm Still in Love With You 776 00:43:25,300 --> 00:43:27,164 was a hit on the country charts. 777 00:43:27,613 --> 00:43:30,926 You're No Good was a hit on both the R&B chart and the pop chart. 778 00:43:31,789 --> 00:43:34,689 So I became the first artist to have a hit on all three charts 779 00:43:34,723 --> 00:43:36,311 at the same time. 780 00:43:40,764 --> 00:43:44,423 Heart Like A Wheel was a huge turning point for her. 781 00:43:45,286 --> 00:43:50,325 The avalanche of success was hitting everywhere. 782 00:43:50,567 --> 00:43:52,983 She was at the forefront of a kind of pop stardom 783 00:43:53,017 --> 00:43:55,641 that hadn't happened at that point 784 00:43:55,675 --> 00:44:00,197 but people didn't notice the difficulty of being a woman, 785 00:44:00,232 --> 00:44:03,925 trailblazing and having the success of a Mick Jagger. 786 00:44:12,761 --> 00:44:17,318 ~ People try to rape me Always thinking I'm crazy ~ 787 00:44:17,352 --> 00:44:20,493 ~ Make me burn the candle right down ~ 788 00:44:21,977 --> 00:44:23,807 ~ Baby ~ 789 00:44:24,359 --> 00:44:26,223 ~ I can't stay ~ 790 00:44:26,534 --> 00:44:29,709 ~ Don't need no jewels In my crown ~ 791 00:44:30,538 --> 00:44:33,230 ~ 'Cause all you women ~ 792 00:44:33,265 --> 00:44:35,508 ~ Are low down gamblers ~ 793 00:44:35,543 --> 00:44:37,855 Now I had gigs like in big sporting arenas, 794 00:44:37,890 --> 00:44:39,961 you know, stadiums and stuff like that. 795 00:44:40,479 --> 00:44:42,722 I knew the name of every arena in the country. 796 00:44:42,757 --> 00:44:44,759 We got a gig tonight at the Spectrum in Philly. 797 00:44:44,793 --> 00:44:45,794 We'll be at the Forum. 798 00:44:45,829 --> 00:44:47,002 Gig tomorrow night at the Garden. 799 00:44:47,037 --> 00:44:48,003 That's where we played. 800 00:44:48,038 --> 00:44:49,626 She was selling them all out. 801 00:44:49,660 --> 00:44:51,352 ~ This low down bitchin' ~ 802 00:44:51,386 --> 00:44:53,837 ~ Got my poor feet a itchin' ~ 803 00:44:53,871 --> 00:44:56,771 ~ Can you see The deuce is still wild ~ 804 00:44:56,805 --> 00:44:58,290 She was very good. 805 00:44:58,324 --> 00:44:59,394 Audience loved her. 806 00:44:59,429 --> 00:45:00,361 Records sold. 807 00:45:00,395 --> 00:45:03,536 She was on an uphill swing all the time. 808 00:45:03,571 --> 00:45:05,504 ~ Got to roll me ~ 809 00:45:05,538 --> 00:45:09,922 ~ Call me the tumblin' dice ~ 810 00:45:12,787 --> 00:45:14,478 When we did that tour together 811 00:45:14,513 --> 00:45:16,653 we'd take turns closing and opening. 812 00:45:18,689 --> 00:45:21,830 You know. Try following Linda Ronstadt every night. 813 00:45:21,865 --> 00:45:25,558 ~ Honey Got no money ~ 814 00:45:26,110 --> 00:45:29,390 ~ Sixes and sevens and nines ~ 815 00:45:30,011 --> 00:45:33,808 ~ Hey now baby I'm the rank outsider ~ 816 00:45:33,842 --> 00:45:35,879 I went to go see her at the Universal Amphitheater 817 00:45:35,913 --> 00:45:37,846 when she was wearing her Boy Scouts outfit 818 00:45:37,881 --> 00:45:39,469 and was just rocking. 819 00:45:40,055 --> 00:45:42,575 ~ Baby... ~ 820 00:45:42,610 --> 00:45:45,060 Linda was able to be really feminine and sexy 821 00:45:45,095 --> 00:45:49,858 in this world of men and somehow hold onto herself and do that 822 00:45:49,893 --> 00:45:52,758 and use that in the best possible way. 823 00:46:04,390 --> 00:46:07,773 There was a lot of dudes running around the stages then. 824 00:46:07,807 --> 00:46:11,017 But we were on the road with Linda and killing it. 825 00:46:11,052 --> 00:46:12,329 She was killing every night. 826 00:46:12,364 --> 00:46:14,814 ~ The tumbling dice ~ 827 00:46:15,953 --> 00:46:17,817 ~ You got to roll me ~ 828 00:46:17,852 --> 00:46:19,888 I know they liked my singing and I know they were proud 829 00:46:19,923 --> 00:46:22,408 of what they were doing but still in rock and roll 830 00:46:22,443 --> 00:46:24,928 the idea that you're actually working for a chick singer, 831 00:46:24,962 --> 00:46:27,551 in their way they sort of saw it as not as cool 832 00:46:27,586 --> 00:46:29,070 as if they were their own rock and roll band 833 00:46:29,104 --> 00:46:30,796 and they were just all the guys. 834 00:46:32,625 --> 00:46:36,077 ~ Baby, baby Got to roll me ~ 835 00:46:36,111 --> 00:46:38,148 There weren't a lot of women musicians 836 00:46:38,182 --> 00:46:40,771 so it was always a band of guys. 837 00:46:40,806 --> 00:46:44,016 There weren't women bass players and women guitar players 838 00:46:44,050 --> 00:46:47,778 and sometimes some of these guys were, they were tough. 839 00:46:49,918 --> 00:46:51,955 I got a lot tougher and more foul mouthed. 840 00:46:51,989 --> 00:46:52,956 I used to swear a lot. 841 00:46:52,990 --> 00:46:54,475 I mean, I used to talk like a truck driver. 842 00:46:54,509 --> 00:46:57,132 When I think about the way I used to talk, I'm shocked. 843 00:47:00,550 --> 00:47:03,000 Without having any other girls along on the road, 844 00:47:03,035 --> 00:47:05,934 just automatically you start to imitate them. 845 00:47:09,179 --> 00:47:12,631 Linda was never comfortable being on the road 846 00:47:12,665 --> 00:47:17,670 but obviously she did her job and part of her loved it. 847 00:47:17,705 --> 00:47:18,844 Who wouldn't love it? 848 00:47:18,878 --> 00:47:21,640 But I think there was another part of her that went, 849 00:47:21,674 --> 00:47:23,814 "You know, this doesn't feel right." 850 00:47:25,575 --> 00:47:26,990 If I were going to choose something to do 851 00:47:27,024 --> 00:47:28,957 it would not be to stand up in front of a lot of people. 852 00:47:28,992 --> 00:47:30,718 But I love to sing, I love to sing. 853 00:47:30,752 --> 00:47:32,996 I love music so at some point you do whatever you have to do 854 00:47:33,030 --> 00:47:34,756 to do music. 855 00:47:36,206 --> 00:47:39,036 She would confess to me that if she saw people in the front row 856 00:47:39,071 --> 00:47:42,661 and somebody leans over and says something to the person 857 00:47:42,695 --> 00:47:46,043 next to them, she thought they were saying, you know, 858 00:47:46,078 --> 00:47:48,149 she's the worst singer I've ever heard. 859 00:47:48,183 --> 00:47:49,633 I don't like this. 860 00:47:49,909 --> 00:47:51,635 She really believed that. 861 00:47:53,016 --> 00:47:55,708 You get on the bus at night, card game going on, 862 00:47:55,743 --> 00:47:57,710 everybody blasting music 863 00:47:57,745 --> 00:47:59,988 or everyone else drinking, you know. 864 00:48:00,023 --> 00:48:01,852 A lot of drugs around. 865 00:48:02,577 --> 00:48:04,959 A lot of people would go on stage completely hammered, 866 00:48:04,993 --> 00:48:06,754 completely fucking hammered. 867 00:48:06,788 --> 00:48:10,551 Everybody was up at night and when the gig ended 868 00:48:10,585 --> 00:48:12,553 you don't go home and have milk. 869 00:48:14,071 --> 00:48:17,592 It was kind of the nighttime danger fun part about 870 00:48:17,627 --> 00:48:19,214 not having to go to bed. 871 00:48:19,249 --> 00:48:21,216 You know, Keith Richards can do it, so can I. 872 00:48:21,251 --> 00:48:23,978 Linda's thing was diet pills. 873 00:48:25,669 --> 00:48:27,878 She went through a phase mostly taking speed 874 00:48:27,913 --> 00:48:30,571 and not eating and being super skinny. 875 00:48:31,226 --> 00:48:34,575 It seemed like it was so hard to be out there day after day 876 00:48:34,609 --> 00:48:36,577 and to try to get up the energy to sort of do that 877 00:48:36,611 --> 00:48:39,649 when you were just wrung out 878 00:48:39,683 --> 00:48:42,686 from the sense of being dislocated from place. 879 00:48:44,723 --> 00:48:47,242 I was with a bunch of people that were basically earnest 880 00:48:47,277 --> 00:48:48,761 and basically honest 881 00:48:48,796 --> 00:48:51,592 and the kind of paranoia that was introduced by drugs 882 00:48:51,626 --> 00:48:53,594 was so destructive in our ability to communicate 883 00:48:53,628 --> 00:48:54,491 with each other. 884 00:48:54,526 --> 00:48:56,631 That really saddened me. 885 00:48:56,666 --> 00:48:59,945 And then at some point we all just stopped. 886 00:49:04,018 --> 00:49:05,951 ~ I feel so bad ~ 887 00:49:05,985 --> 00:49:09,264 ~ I got a worried mind ~ 888 00:49:10,196 --> 00:49:12,544 ~ I'm so lonesome ~ 889 00:49:12,578 --> 00:49:14,477 ~ All the time ~ 890 00:49:15,581 --> 00:49:19,965 ~ Since I left my Baby behind ~ 891 00:49:19,999 --> 00:49:22,554 ~ On Blue Bayou ~ 892 00:49:26,592 --> 00:49:30,769 ~ Saving nickels Saving dimes ~ 893 00:49:31,873 --> 00:49:35,808 ~ Workin' 'til The sun don't shine ~ 894 00:49:36,982 --> 00:49:41,089 ~ Looking forward To happier times ~ 895 00:49:41,124 --> 00:49:43,816 ~ On Blue Bayou ~ 896 00:49:45,956 --> 00:49:48,890 ~ I'm going back someday ~ 897 00:49:49,339 --> 00:49:51,306 ~ Come what may ~ 898 00:49:51,341 --> 00:49:55,034 ~ To Blue Bayou ~ 899 00:49:56,311 --> 00:49:59,176 ~ Where the folks are fine ~ 900 00:49:59,211 --> 00:50:02,179 ~ And the world is mine ~ 901 00:50:02,214 --> 00:50:05,251 ~ On Blue Bayou ~ 902 00:50:06,218 --> 00:50:09,670 When Rolling Stone was ready to put Linda Ronstadt on the cover 903 00:50:09,704 --> 00:50:12,983 that was her absolute peak up until then. 904 00:50:13,190 --> 00:50:16,815 ~ If I could only see ~ 905 00:50:16,849 --> 00:50:19,783 Generally it was a very male-oriented 906 00:50:19,818 --> 00:50:22,199 denim-clad warrior cover. 907 00:50:23,994 --> 00:50:25,927 So here comes Linda Ronstadt 908 00:50:25,962 --> 00:50:29,931 and she and Annie Leibovitz put together this photo session 909 00:50:29,966 --> 00:50:32,140 that was like no other cover that had been 910 00:50:32,175 --> 00:50:34,108 on Rolling Stone before. 911 00:50:36,144 --> 00:50:38,077 She was honest 912 00:50:40,942 --> 00:50:43,082 and opened her heart. 913 00:50:43,945 --> 00:50:48,018 She said, "This gets lonely and I don't know where it ends up. 914 00:50:48,260 --> 00:50:50,089 It's an emotional journey 915 00:50:50,124 --> 00:50:52,126 and I'm happy that I brought this kind of joy. 916 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:53,783 But you know what? When I'm here alone 917 00:50:53,817 --> 00:50:57,649 in this Malibu home that looks very cozy, it's lonely." 918 00:50:58,753 --> 00:51:01,238 There's a lot of show business people down here, you know. 919 00:51:01,273 --> 00:51:03,206 It's not my style exactly. 920 00:51:03,240 --> 00:51:06,036 Where did you live before? 921 00:51:06,071 --> 00:51:08,970 Nowhere really. I was on the road for about ten years 922 00:51:09,005 --> 00:51:12,008 and I didn't exactly have a home. 923 00:51:12,456 --> 00:51:17,358 ~ On Blue Bayou ~ 924 00:51:32,235 --> 00:51:34,893 Singing the National Anthem here at Dodger Stadium, 925 00:51:34,927 --> 00:51:36,895 Ms. Linda Ronstadt. 926 00:51:41,140 --> 00:51:43,729 ~ Oh, say can you see? ~ 927 00:51:43,764 --> 00:51:47,146 I remember my dad was watching her at the game. 928 00:51:47,181 --> 00:51:49,286 She sang the National Anthem. 929 00:51:49,804 --> 00:51:53,808 ~ What so proudly we hailed ~ 930 00:51:54,015 --> 00:51:55,672 ~ At the twilight's... ~ 931 00:51:55,707 --> 00:51:57,191 All of sudden there she is. 932 00:51:57,225 --> 00:52:00,090 She'd come in the limo straight to the restaurant from the game 933 00:52:00,125 --> 00:52:01,782 to have something to eat. 934 00:52:02,921 --> 00:52:06,062 My parents had a small restaurant on Melrose Avenue 935 00:52:06,096 --> 00:52:09,272 across the street from what was then KHJ Radio 936 00:52:09,306 --> 00:52:11,688 which was the radio station in the day. 937 00:52:12,309 --> 00:52:15,209 Linda walked in and my dad was wearing a shirt 938 00:52:15,243 --> 00:52:18,039 that we call in Mexico Aloe Vera 939 00:52:18,074 --> 00:52:21,456 and it has four pockets and it's white and she said, 940 00:52:21,491 --> 00:52:22,837 "This is a good place 941 00:52:22,872 --> 00:52:25,012 because he's wearing the shirt my dad wears. 942 00:52:25,875 --> 00:52:27,946 A lot of the people who hung out at the Troubadour 943 00:52:27,980 --> 00:52:29,948 also ate at Lucy's. 944 00:52:30,776 --> 00:52:33,986 Lucy was very shall we say loose with the check 945 00:52:34,021 --> 00:52:36,402 now and again and if we were on hard times. 946 00:52:37,472 --> 00:52:40,855 Our customers were not just soon-to-be celebrities 947 00:52:40,890 --> 00:52:44,203 of the industries, they were the oligarch of Los Angeles. 948 00:52:44,238 --> 00:52:46,896 I mean, you're talking old-school money. 949 00:52:48,311 --> 00:52:50,037 There was a big communal table that my father 950 00:52:50,071 --> 00:52:51,176 used to sit everybody at. 951 00:52:51,210 --> 00:52:53,385 So you'd sit with policemen, you'd sit with firemen, 952 00:52:53,419 --> 00:52:56,008 sometimes you'd sit with an actor, sometimes you'd sit... 953 00:52:56,043 --> 00:52:58,839 a football player. You never had any idea who you'd sit with. 954 00:52:58,873 --> 00:53:01,945 What happened was Linda had decided 955 00:53:01,980 --> 00:53:03,947 that she wanted to change the 8-track 956 00:53:03,982 --> 00:53:05,224 because she wanted to hear something else. 957 00:53:05,259 --> 00:53:08,814 So she had to step up on this little wine rack 958 00:53:08,849 --> 00:53:11,955 and at that moment the Governor Jerry Brown comes in 959 00:53:11,990 --> 00:53:15,994 that room and he sees her and it was like wow! 960 00:53:16,028 --> 00:53:17,236 Who's she? 961 00:53:18,065 --> 00:53:21,413 So my father went and he sat them together. 962 00:53:22,897 --> 00:53:24,450 And, well, he fell in love with her. 963 00:53:24,485 --> 00:53:26,280 There was no question about that. 964 00:53:27,350 --> 00:53:28,903 Jerry likes passionate music. 965 00:53:28,938 --> 00:53:30,974 He likes passionate music, passionate women, 966 00:53:31,009 --> 00:53:32,355 that's his deal. 967 00:53:33,011 --> 00:53:34,978 We had a really good time together. 968 00:53:37,394 --> 00:53:39,811 He went out to run for president for the last couple of months 969 00:53:39,845 --> 00:53:42,883 and he pending for the fact that I got to see him on TV 970 00:53:42,917 --> 00:53:45,057 I may have forgot what he looked like. 971 00:53:47,542 --> 00:53:49,096 But he came back yesterday. 972 00:53:49,130 --> 00:53:50,511 He's gonna make it all better now. 973 00:53:53,963 --> 00:53:55,481 That's what he told me anyway. 974 00:53:55,516 --> 00:53:57,276 I have yet to see. 975 00:53:57,587 --> 00:54:01,108 ~ My boyfriend's back And you're gonna be trouble ~ 976 00:54:01,142 --> 00:54:04,456 ~ Hey now, hey now My boyfriend's back ~ 977 00:54:04,490 --> 00:54:05,906 ~ When you see him coming... ~ 978 00:54:05,940 --> 00:54:07,942 Did you have much of a problem when you're with Jerry Brown 979 00:54:07,977 --> 00:54:10,807 people expecting you to have political views 980 00:54:10,842 --> 00:54:13,258 along the lines of Governor Brown? 981 00:54:13,292 --> 00:54:15,916 Whereas you're a singer, he's a politician. 982 00:54:15,950 --> 00:54:17,469 Our relationship was completely personal, 983 00:54:17,503 --> 00:54:18,850 it wasn't political at all. 984 00:54:18,884 --> 00:54:21,059 So, you know, he did politics, I did music. 985 00:54:21,093 --> 00:54:23,406 - Right. - It's easy to separate that. 986 00:54:23,647 --> 00:54:25,857 You went to South Africa recently. 987 00:54:25,891 --> 00:54:28,307 Did you receive criticism for going there? 988 00:54:28,342 --> 00:54:30,482 As far as I was concerned it was just a gig. 989 00:54:30,516 --> 00:54:32,553 I don't think that if you disagree with the policies 990 00:54:32,587 --> 00:54:35,073 of the government, which I do very definitely disagree 991 00:54:35,107 --> 00:54:37,144 with the policies of the South African government, 992 00:54:37,178 --> 00:54:38,593 I don't think that's enough of a reason not to go 993 00:54:38,628 --> 00:54:39,871 and play music there. 994 00:54:39,905 --> 00:54:42,563 If I did that I wouldn't be able to play in the United State 995 00:54:42,597 --> 00:54:44,876 because I don't agree with their policies about nuclear power, 996 00:54:44,910 --> 00:54:46,118 nuclear warfare. 997 00:54:46,153 --> 00:54:49,190 I mean, my God, we've got this person running the country 998 00:54:49,225 --> 00:54:50,951 that I completely disagree with. 999 00:54:50,985 --> 00:54:53,436 If I decided that I wasn't going to play where attitudes 1000 00:54:53,470 --> 00:54:57,198 of racism prevailed, I certainly couldn't play in Australia 1001 00:54:57,233 --> 00:55:01,064 or England or lots of places in the United States, 1002 00:55:01,099 --> 00:55:03,377 a lot of places in the American South or Boston 1003 00:55:03,411 --> 00:55:05,068 which is extremely racist. 1004 00:55:05,103 --> 00:55:08,002 I went to South Africa, it has a fascist repressive government. 1005 00:55:08,037 --> 00:55:09,555 I'm very interested in the culture down there. 1006 00:55:09,590 --> 00:55:10,591 You just got finished talking. 1007 00:55:10,625 --> 00:55:12,904 You say why does anyone think I'm controversial. 1008 00:55:12,938 --> 00:55:15,078 Do you realized what you've just talked about here? 1009 00:55:15,113 --> 00:55:17,356 We've just received all your political views in one blow. 1010 00:55:17,391 --> 00:55:19,393 I'm teasing. I'm not putting it down. 1011 00:55:19,427 --> 00:55:21,878 I don't think my political views are very controversial. 1012 00:55:21,913 --> 00:55:23,949 Who likes nuclear warfare? 1013 00:55:23,984 --> 00:55:26,538 I remember her having the Wall Street Journal in her bag 1014 00:55:26,572 --> 00:55:29,541 one time in the 70s when she was dating Jerry and I went, 1015 00:55:29,575 --> 00:55:32,682 you know, I had thought she was really smart but she's really 1016 00:55:32,716 --> 00:55:35,927 well read and very, very up on a lot of different things. 1017 00:55:35,961 --> 00:55:40,586 She's as wide ranging in her critical intellectual pursuits 1018 00:55:40,621 --> 00:55:44,107 as she is in her music pursuits and you don't find that kind 1019 00:55:44,142 --> 00:55:47,490 of depth and eclecticism in pop music. 1020 00:55:49,147 --> 00:55:53,910 Jerry needed somebody that could be full-time there for him. 1021 00:55:54,704 --> 00:55:57,189 You couldn't have two careers in that family. 1022 00:55:57,224 --> 00:56:00,192 ~ I never will marry... ~ 1023 00:56:00,227 --> 00:56:01,504 There's not enough time. 1024 00:56:01,538 --> 00:56:04,541 ~ I'll be no man's wife ~ 1025 00:56:05,335 --> 00:56:08,338 ~ I tend to stay single ~ 1026 00:56:09,546 --> 00:56:12,549 ~ For my rest of my life ~ 1027 00:56:13,102 --> 00:56:15,621 I mean, the same reason I never got married. 1028 00:56:16,415 --> 00:56:18,176 I don't know, I think it's hard being a woman 1029 00:56:18,210 --> 00:56:19,556 in the music business. 1030 00:56:19,591 --> 00:56:23,043 You know, it's a different kind of life. 1031 00:56:23,319 --> 00:56:25,562 ~ Rushing waters ~ 1032 00:56:26,253 --> 00:56:30,119 ~ Went over my head ~ 1033 00:56:30,153 --> 00:56:32,259 Well you don't need to get married, you what I mean? 1034 00:56:32,293 --> 00:56:34,295 It's like we have our own income 1035 00:56:34,330 --> 00:56:37,505 and you don't have to have the state verify 1036 00:56:37,540 --> 00:56:39,128 that you love somebody 1037 00:56:39,162 --> 00:56:41,130 and when that relationship's over you leave. 1038 00:56:41,164 --> 00:56:42,994 Neither one of us are really made for marriage 1039 00:56:43,028 --> 00:56:45,686 or I think long-term relationships. 1040 00:56:46,411 --> 00:56:47,757 Why did you break up? 1041 00:56:47,791 --> 00:56:50,622 I can't remember. Maybe she could tell you. 1042 00:56:50,656 --> 00:56:54,453 ~ It's so easy to fall in love ~ 1043 00:56:54,764 --> 00:56:58,561 ~ It's so easy to fall in love ~ 1044 00:56:59,389 --> 00:57:02,737 ~ People tell me Love's for fools ~ 1045 00:57:03,290 --> 00:57:07,156 ~ But here I go Breaking all the rules ~ 1046 00:57:07,190 --> 00:57:09,089 ~ Seems so easy... ~ 1047 00:57:09,123 --> 00:57:12,575 My mom wanted to be a scientist but she had four kids 1048 00:57:12,609 --> 00:57:15,750 and I think it was also a little bit of a disappointment. 1049 00:57:15,785 --> 00:57:18,270 ~ It's so easy To fall in love... ~ 1050 00:57:18,305 --> 00:57:21,135 She always said to me go out and have a life. 1051 00:57:21,170 --> 00:57:24,000 You don't just have to get married, there are alternatives. 1052 00:57:24,035 --> 00:57:27,555 ~ It's so easy to fall in love ~ 1053 00:57:28,142 --> 00:57:31,594 ~ It's so easy to fall in love ~ 1054 00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,426 I have to confess, I got a really bad crush on this guy. 1055 00:57:37,634 --> 00:57:40,430 We had a little romance for a while but it wasn't long lived. 1056 00:57:40,465 --> 00:57:42,398 He dumped me for this pig. 1057 00:57:42,432 --> 00:57:44,745 Well, at least I got his picture. 1058 00:57:47,299 --> 00:57:49,301 ~ Does he love me? ~ 1059 00:57:49,336 --> 00:57:51,476 ~ I want to know ~ 1060 00:57:51,510 --> 00:57:55,169 ~ How can I tell if he loves me so? ~ 1061 00:57:55,204 --> 00:57:57,137 ~ Is it in his eyes? ~ 1062 00:57:57,171 --> 00:57:59,277 ~ Oh no, you make believe ~ 1063 00:57:59,311 --> 00:58:01,348 ~ Is it in his size ~ 1064 00:58:01,382 --> 00:58:03,453 ~ Oh no You'll be deceived ~ 1065 00:58:03,488 --> 00:58:07,457 ~ If you want to know if he loves you so ~ 1066 00:58:07,492 --> 00:58:09,321 ~ It's in his kiss ~ 1067 00:58:09,356 --> 00:58:11,151 ~ That's where it is ~ 1068 00:58:11,496 --> 00:58:15,155 To present the nominees for favorite female 1069 00:58:15,189 --> 00:58:20,367 in rock and pop are Teddy Pendergrass and Tanya Tucker. 1070 00:58:20,643 --> 00:58:23,059 The nominees are: Linda Ronstadt. 1071 00:58:26,131 --> 00:58:27,857 Ms. Barbara Streisand. 1072 00:58:30,515 --> 00:58:31,757 And Donna Summer. 1073 00:58:33,138 --> 00:58:34,174 You open the envelope. 1074 00:58:34,208 --> 00:58:35,313 I'm too nervous. 1075 00:58:35,347 --> 00:58:37,798 I'll do the gentlemanly thing here and I'll open it. 1076 00:58:37,832 --> 00:58:40,421 - If you will read. - Okay. And the winner is... 1077 00:58:40,456 --> 00:58:41,595 Linda Ronstadt. 1078 00:58:46,117 --> 00:58:47,739 Linda was the queen. 1079 00:58:47,773 --> 00:58:50,155 She was like what Beyoncé is now. 1080 00:58:52,192 --> 00:58:54,815 She was the first female rock and roll star. 1081 00:58:55,264 --> 00:58:57,300 ~ Want love? ~ 1082 00:58:58,715 --> 00:59:00,648 ~ Get closer ~ 1083 00:59:01,580 --> 00:59:03,617 She was the only female artist the have 1084 00:59:03,651 --> 00:59:08,760 five platinum albums in a row and most of them multi-platinum. 1085 00:59:09,485 --> 00:59:11,625 ~ Hold my hand ~ 1086 00:59:12,833 --> 00:59:15,525 For favorite female in rock and pop... 1087 00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:16,768 Favorite country single... 1088 00:59:16,802 --> 00:59:18,873 Blue Bayou by Linda Ronstadt. 1089 00:59:18,908 --> 00:59:20,772 - And the winner is... - Takes another one. 1090 00:59:20,806 --> 00:59:23,844 - Linda Ronstadt. - The winner is Linda Ronstadt. 1091 00:59:24,431 --> 00:59:27,848 ~ You make a fuss when her eyes ain't on you ~ 1092 00:59:27,882 --> 00:59:31,438 ~ Well give us something to look forward to ~ 1093 00:59:31,472 --> 00:59:34,751 ~ Remember all those other girls who ran ~ 1094 00:59:35,373 --> 00:59:37,892 The nature of being a pop musician is that you get 1095 00:59:37,927 --> 00:59:39,722 these things that are successful 1096 00:59:39,756 --> 00:59:41,827 and you have to sing them for the rest of your life. 1097 00:59:41,862 --> 00:59:43,484 Over and over and over again and they start sounding 1098 00:59:43,519 --> 00:59:45,383 like your washing machine. 1099 00:59:47,971 --> 00:59:50,940 I didn't like singing in big arenas because the sound 1100 00:59:50,974 --> 00:59:54,219 was like, you know, you'd hear the guitar solo that 1101 00:59:54,254 --> 00:59:56,808 they played last week still ringing around the rafters. 1102 00:59:59,362 --> 01:00:01,847 So I started looking for other things to do. 1103 01:00:06,507 --> 01:00:09,476 There is this feeling that she has about the music itself 1104 01:00:09,510 --> 01:00:11,823 rather than the career itself. 1105 01:00:11,857 --> 01:00:15,447 You know, some people are just hardcore careerists. 1106 01:00:15,654 --> 01:00:17,484 There's nothing wrong with that. 1107 01:00:18,209 --> 01:00:21,557 You know, it's how your mind works that makes the difference. 1108 01:00:21,591 --> 01:00:25,423 It's how you see yourself or how you see yourself in the world, 1109 01:00:25,457 --> 01:00:26,493 you know. 1110 01:00:26,527 --> 01:00:29,875 And not everybody's a pure art for art's sake 1111 01:00:29,910 --> 01:00:31,877 and not everybody's a pure careerist either, 1112 01:00:31,912 --> 01:00:33,016 especially in music 1113 01:00:33,051 --> 01:00:36,606 because musicians love music or they wouldn't do it. 1114 01:00:39,609 --> 01:00:41,301 She wanted to change. 1115 01:00:41,335 --> 01:00:43,717 She got tired of doing arena rock, 1116 01:00:43,751 --> 01:00:45,650 she wanted to try different things. 1117 01:00:47,583 --> 01:00:49,757 I picked up the phone and called my great friend John Rockwell 1118 01:00:49,792 --> 01:00:52,864 who writes music criticism for the New York Times. 1119 01:00:53,899 --> 01:00:56,419 I said I hate playing these big sporting arenas. 1120 01:00:56,454 --> 01:00:59,181 It's not good for the audience, it's not good for the band. 1121 01:00:59,422 --> 01:01:02,632 I want to sing in a theater with a proscenium and a curtain. 1122 01:01:03,046 --> 01:01:04,841 He said well the next time you come to New York 1123 01:01:04,876 --> 01:01:07,844 I'll take you down to meet this fellow named Joseph Papp. 1124 01:01:08,328 --> 01:01:10,468 He has a theater, it's called the New York Public Theater 1125 01:01:10,502 --> 01:01:13,609 and he does Shakespeare and he does musicals; he did Hair. 1126 01:01:14,299 --> 01:01:16,612 He wanted to do The Pirates of Penzance. 1127 01:01:17,302 --> 01:01:19,580 My mom was a Gilbert and Sullivan lover. 1128 01:01:19,615 --> 01:01:22,928 She had a big book of Gilbert and Sullivan songs on the piano. 1129 01:01:23,550 --> 01:01:27,519 And I actually learned all the soprano parts as a kid. 1130 01:01:27,968 --> 01:01:29,935 And I loved singing them 1131 01:01:29,970 --> 01:01:32,524 but I never got a chance to in rock and roll. 1132 01:01:33,284 --> 01:01:36,494 That was in her roots, that was in her upbringing, 1133 01:01:36,528 --> 01:01:40,222 it was part of her authentic musical experience. 1134 01:01:41,533 --> 01:01:43,708 Joe called me and said if I wanted to do the part 1135 01:01:43,742 --> 01:01:45,261 I could have it. 1136 01:01:45,296 --> 01:01:46,780 And I said no I have to come and audition 1137 01:01:46,814 --> 01:01:48,885 because I didn't know whether I could sing it or not. 1138 01:01:49,714 --> 01:01:52,579 She wanted to be certain that she would do it well. 1139 01:01:52,820 --> 01:01:54,753 They thought being able to say Linda Ronstadt's in it 1140 01:01:54,788 --> 01:01:56,721 would be good for business. 1141 01:01:56,755 --> 01:01:59,793 But her concern was whether it would be good for the show. 1142 01:02:03,935 --> 01:02:06,524 I was there for several rehearsals and she was fabulous. 1143 01:02:06,558 --> 01:02:08,940 She just grabbed it by the horns and... 1144 01:02:14,532 --> 01:02:15,981 That was the first job I was ever offered 1145 01:02:16,016 --> 01:02:17,293 where I actually got to sing like that. 1146 01:02:17,328 --> 01:02:19,985 I was delighted, I really was. But I can't do it very well yet. 1147 01:02:20,020 --> 01:02:21,815 Because it's really hard. You can't learn that overnight. 1148 01:02:21,849 --> 01:02:24,473 - You got to be in training. - In training, yup. 1149 01:02:28,097 --> 01:02:32,481 Linda had a great voice and she had a great vision for herself 1150 01:02:32,515 --> 01:02:36,001 and she didn't want to just be singing rock and roll, 1151 01:02:36,036 --> 01:02:37,624 she wanted to do everything. 1152 01:02:38,003 --> 01:02:41,352 ~ Hold, monsters! ~ 1153 01:02:41,697 --> 01:02:44,044 ~ Ere your pirate Caravanserai ~ 1154 01:02:44,078 --> 01:02:47,979 ~ Proceed, against our will to wed us all ~ 1155 01:02:48,635 --> 01:02:52,949 ~ Just bear in mind that we Are Wards in Chancery ~ 1156 01:02:52,984 --> 01:02:56,988 ~ And father is a Major-General ~ 1157 01:02:57,022 --> 01:02:59,093 I knew some of her songs, sure. 1158 01:02:59,128 --> 01:03:01,717 But operetta? 1159 01:03:01,958 --> 01:03:03,408 ~ Prepare! ~ 1160 01:03:03,443 --> 01:03:09,103 ~ Unhappy General Stanley ~ 1161 01:03:09,138 --> 01:03:11,382 A week into rehearsal we all sang through the score 1162 01:03:11,485 --> 01:03:13,660 just sitting in a circle in chairs 1163 01:03:13,694 --> 01:03:17,767 and when I heard her voice it was just 1164 01:03:17,802 --> 01:03:24,360 this belle canto soprano gorgeous musical, 1165 01:03:25,810 --> 01:03:29,158 celestial yet earthy, just pure, 1166 01:03:29,192 --> 01:03:31,712 something so pure, it just made me cry. 1167 01:03:31,747 --> 01:03:33,887 I just remember just listening to that voice, 1168 01:03:33,921 --> 01:03:36,579 it was just singing that stuff... 1169 01:03:39,444 --> 01:03:40,514 Touching. 1170 01:03:41,481 --> 01:03:42,758 ~ Oh, sisters, Deaf to pity's name ~ 1171 01:03:42,792 --> 01:03:44,484 ~ For shame! ~ 1172 01:03:44,518 --> 01:03:46,624 ~ It's true that he has Gone astray ~ 1173 01:03:46,658 --> 01:03:48,384 ~ But pray ~ 1174 01:03:48,419 --> 01:03:50,766 ~ Is that a reason Good and true ~ 1175 01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:51,939 ~ Why you ~ 1176 01:03:51,974 --> 01:03:58,498 ~ Should all be deaf To pity's name? ~ 1177 01:03:58,877 --> 01:04:01,052 Gilbert and Sullivan? Really? 1178 01:04:01,086 --> 01:04:04,400 A rock star who has the guts to go out there 1179 01:04:04,435 --> 01:04:07,748 and do that kind of musical comedy. 1180 01:04:07,783 --> 01:04:08,887 She just didn't care. 1181 01:04:08,922 --> 01:04:12,097 To her it was like a mountain to climb. 1182 01:04:27,837 --> 01:04:30,461 Linda can bring herself to sing anything. 1183 01:04:30,495 --> 01:04:34,119 She could sing opera, she could do anything with her voice. 1184 01:04:34,154 --> 01:04:35,845 I couldn't do all that. 1185 01:04:48,686 --> 01:04:50,550 Kevin Kline and I were both nominated 1186 01:04:50,584 --> 01:04:52,103 for Tony Awards for that show. 1187 01:04:52,655 --> 01:04:54,070 Kevin deserved it more than I did. 1188 01:04:54,105 --> 01:04:56,003 All I did was walk around and sing. 1189 01:05:02,941 --> 01:05:05,116 My mom died during Pirates of Penzance. 1190 01:05:07,049 --> 01:05:09,016 I wasn't with her when she died. 1191 01:05:09,051 --> 01:05:11,536 And I just couldn't quite get it through my head 1192 01:05:11,571 --> 01:05:12,813 that she was gone out of the world 1193 01:05:12,848 --> 01:05:14,746 and I was never going to see her again. 1194 01:05:17,508 --> 01:05:19,751 She'd had all these records -- Louis Armstrong, 1195 01:05:19,786 --> 01:05:21,581 Ella Fitzgerald, 1196 01:05:21,615 --> 01:05:23,686 Billie Holiday, Peggy Lee. 1197 01:05:23,721 --> 01:05:26,448 And I thought I'd like to try to sing some of those songs. 1198 01:05:26,724 --> 01:05:31,832 ~ Only the lonely ~ 1199 01:05:31,867 --> 01:05:35,042 When we lived together almost every evening the last record 1200 01:05:35,077 --> 01:05:37,010 we listened to was a Frank Sinatra album 1201 01:05:37,044 --> 01:05:39,115 called Songs for Only the Lonely. 1202 01:05:39,150 --> 01:05:41,497 With Nelson Riddle arranging. 1203 01:05:43,948 --> 01:05:47,848 Constantly people were telling Linda you can't do this. 1204 01:05:48,193 --> 01:05:49,574 I'm guilty. 1205 01:05:49,609 --> 01:05:52,266 When she was going to do the Nelson Riddle album 1206 01:05:52,301 --> 01:05:54,752 I didn't think it was a good idea, 1207 01:05:54,786 --> 01:05:56,650 not because she couldn't do it 1208 01:05:56,685 --> 01:06:00,205 but because we had this run going with rock and roll records 1209 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:01,759 and country rock. 1210 01:06:03,243 --> 01:06:05,038 I said I'd like to find somebody that can write arrangements 1211 01:06:05,072 --> 01:06:06,488 like Nelson Riddle. 1212 01:06:06,867 --> 01:06:09,629 They said why don't you just ask Nelson Riddle? 1213 01:06:10,250 --> 01:06:12,701 Well I didn't know he was still alive. 1214 01:06:12,977 --> 01:06:15,117 You were the only person that I knew that could do 1215 01:06:15,151 --> 01:06:16,877 orchestrations like this. 1216 01:06:16,912 --> 01:06:18,189 I didn't know where you were, 1217 01:06:18,223 --> 01:06:20,122 whether you'd be interested in working with me. 1218 01:06:20,156 --> 01:06:22,055 Whether you'd ever heard of me or not. 1219 01:06:22,089 --> 01:06:23,781 And as soon as I started learning the songs 1220 01:06:23,815 --> 01:06:25,161 they just got inside me. 1221 01:06:25,196 --> 01:06:26,784 I wanted to record them and I wanted to do it 1222 01:06:26,818 --> 01:06:28,717 worse than anything I've ever wanted to do. 1223 01:06:28,751 --> 01:06:30,097 I remember your phrase for this. 1224 01:06:30,132 --> 01:06:33,825 You said these are songs I cannot not do. 1225 01:06:33,860 --> 01:06:35,206 I can't not do them. 1226 01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:37,967 At some point it's like falling in love. 1227 01:06:38,002 --> 01:06:39,624 Choice doesn't even enter into it. 1228 01:06:39,659 --> 01:06:42,731 ~ What's new? ~ 1229 01:06:43,628 --> 01:06:46,942 ~ How is the world ~ 1230 01:06:48,150 --> 01:06:50,842 ~ Treating you? ~ 1231 01:06:51,947 --> 01:06:54,156 I would think oh my God, how can I sing these songs? 1232 01:06:54,190 --> 01:06:56,676 Ella Fitzgerald has sung them, Billie Holiday has sing them, 1233 01:06:56,710 --> 01:06:58,609 Frank Sinatra has sung them. 1234 01:07:00,403 --> 01:07:03,234 ~ Handsome as ever ~ 1235 01:07:04,753 --> 01:07:06,582 She studied all of those records 1236 01:07:06,617 --> 01:07:09,240 and she studied every available version she could find 1237 01:07:09,274 --> 01:07:10,931 of each one of those songs. 1238 01:07:10,966 --> 01:07:12,899 She is a real student. 1239 01:07:12,933 --> 01:07:15,626 ~ What's new? ~ 1240 01:07:15,971 --> 01:07:19,871 ~ How did that romance ~ 1241 01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:22,322 ~ Come through? ~ 1242 01:07:22,805 --> 01:07:25,774 She told she wanted to get those songs out of the elevator. 1243 01:07:25,808 --> 01:07:28,639 She meant that that's the only place you heard them. 1244 01:07:28,673 --> 01:07:31,849 And she wanted to point out that that's not where they belong. 1245 01:07:31,883 --> 01:07:33,989 They were some of the best songs ever written. 1246 01:07:34,023 --> 01:07:38,096 ~ Why am I asking what's new? ~ 1247 01:07:39,442 --> 01:07:42,687 I went to her house and tried to talk her out of it but 1248 01:07:42,722 --> 01:07:45,863 as soon as she told me Nelson Riddle was going to do it, 1249 01:07:45,897 --> 01:07:49,073 I said well I'd like to come to the record session. 1250 01:07:58,703 --> 01:08:00,429 When my sister was in high school she got to go 1251 01:08:00,463 --> 01:08:02,845 to her senior prom and she got to wear these strapless dresses 1252 01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:04,226 with a lot of tool 1253 01:08:04,260 --> 01:08:06,400 and I always wanted one of those dresses. 1254 01:08:08,333 --> 01:08:10,232 By the time I got to high school 1255 01:08:10,266 --> 01:08:12,683 styles had changed and I never got to have one. 1256 01:08:12,717 --> 01:08:14,201 So I said I'm going to put a show together, 1257 01:08:14,236 --> 01:08:16,238 we're all going to get to wear those dresses. 1258 01:08:16,894 --> 01:08:20,345 ~ So dream ~ 1259 01:08:21,105 --> 01:08:24,626 ~ Dream ~ 1260 01:08:25,419 --> 01:08:28,077 ~ Dream ~ 1261 01:08:34,014 --> 01:08:35,429 This is a real treat tonight. 1262 01:08:35,464 --> 01:08:37,397 We have three marvelous singers on the show 1263 01:08:37,431 --> 01:08:40,262 and would you know how many times they have been nominated 1264 01:08:40,296 --> 01:08:41,712 for Grammys between them? 1265 01:08:41,746 --> 01:08:43,334 Forty-five times in total. 1266 01:08:47,787 --> 01:08:49,754 The albums they've all sold are in the multi-millions 1267 01:08:49,789 --> 01:08:51,963 and I guess it's taken the ladies about ten years 1268 01:08:51,998 --> 01:08:54,138 to get this together where they wanted to work together 1269 01:08:54,172 --> 01:08:58,211 and made an album called Trio and it was well worth the time. 1270 01:08:58,245 --> 01:09:00,454 The album is described as old-timey but it's sensational. 1271 01:09:00,489 --> 01:09:02,318 Would you welcome Linda Ronstadt, Dolly Parton, 1272 01:09:02,353 --> 01:09:03,457 Emmylou Harris? 1273 01:09:11,534 --> 01:09:13,019 I had met Dolly. 1274 01:09:13,053 --> 01:09:14,883 I saw her singing on the Grand Ole Opry 1275 01:09:14,917 --> 01:09:16,194 and she was a wonder to behold. 1276 01:09:16,229 --> 01:09:19,025 What you have in front of you is one of the most beautiful girls 1277 01:09:19,059 --> 01:09:20,198 you've ever seen. 1278 01:09:20,233 --> 01:09:21,924 She's just gorgeous. 1279 01:09:22,925 --> 01:09:24,168 When she opened her mouth and started to sing 1280 01:09:24,202 --> 01:09:25,307 I fell on the floor. 1281 01:09:25,341 --> 01:09:27,205 She's an amazing singer. 1282 01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:29,138 ~ Jolene, Jolene ~ 1283 01:09:29,173 --> 01:09:32,072 ~ Jolene, Jolene ~ 1284 01:09:32,486 --> 01:09:37,250 ~ I'm begging of you Please don't take my man ~ 1285 01:09:38,872 --> 01:09:40,322 I told Emmylou about her 1286 01:09:40,356 --> 01:09:42,255 and then Emmy met her somehow. 1287 01:09:42,289 --> 01:09:44,050 ~ Jolene ~ 1288 01:09:44,084 --> 01:09:47,916 When I made my first trip to Nashville the powers that be 1289 01:09:47,950 --> 01:09:50,815 set up a meeting with Dolly and she was making a record 1290 01:09:50,850 --> 01:09:54,060 in her studio and it was like unbelievable. 1291 01:09:54,094 --> 01:09:56,925 It was better than any Disneyland visit. 1292 01:09:56,959 --> 01:09:59,237 ~ Eyes of emerald green ~ 1293 01:09:59,272 --> 01:10:01,239 They kind of found my music somewhere 1294 01:10:01,274 --> 01:10:03,552 and kind of wanted to meet me 1295 01:10:03,586 --> 01:10:05,865 and that's kind of how we all started. 1296 01:10:06,866 --> 01:10:08,902 Emmy called me up and she's like Dolly Parton's at my house, 1297 01:10:08,937 --> 01:10:10,524 you have to come over. 1298 01:10:10,559 --> 01:10:12,319 I was living like 40 minutes away 1299 01:10:12,354 --> 01:10:14,045 and I got there in 20 minutes. 1300 01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:17,290 She came over and there we were, the three of us 1301 01:10:17,324 --> 01:10:19,775 and we were there with our idol Dolly. 1302 01:10:19,810 --> 01:10:22,053 They had this big old house, almost like a bunch of hippies 1303 01:10:22,088 --> 01:10:24,538 just living up there, different people and musicians. 1304 01:10:24,573 --> 01:10:26,161 They had different bedrooms. 1305 01:10:26,195 --> 01:10:28,128 It was just a free-for-all kind of house. 1306 01:10:28,163 --> 01:10:29,958 A dream for musicians. 1307 01:10:29,992 --> 01:10:33,478 And somebody said well sing something. 1308 01:10:33,513 --> 01:10:37,413 ~ Bury me beneath the willow ~ 1309 01:10:37,448 --> 01:10:40,416 ~ Under the whipping willow Tree ~ 1310 01:10:40,451 --> 01:10:45,076 ~ So he may know Where I am sleeping ~ 1311 01:10:45,111 --> 01:10:48,252 ~ And perhaps He'll weep for me ~ 1312 01:10:48,286 --> 01:10:49,563 So I started singing that 1313 01:10:49,598 --> 01:10:51,255 and then they started saying sing that again. 1314 01:10:51,289 --> 01:10:52,877 I go "Oh, bury me..." 1315 01:10:52,912 --> 01:10:54,534 And here come all these harmonies 1316 01:10:54,568 --> 01:10:57,192 and oh it was just chilling, chilling, chilling. 1317 01:10:57,226 --> 01:10:59,332 ~ Beneath the willow ~ 1318 01:10:59,366 --> 01:11:03,301 ~ Under the weeping willow Tree ~ 1319 01:11:03,336 --> 01:11:08,548 ~ Well he may know Where I am sleeping ~ 1320 01:11:08,582 --> 01:11:12,448 ~ And perhaps He'll weep for me ~ 1321 01:11:12,483 --> 01:11:14,450 When we heard our voices 1322 01:11:14,485 --> 01:11:18,006 it was like injecting some kind of serum into your veins. 1323 01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,146 It was like a high like you've never felt. 1324 01:11:20,180 --> 01:11:22,113 We sang first in a living room 1325 01:11:22,148 --> 01:11:23,563 and said well this sounds really good. 1326 01:11:23,597 --> 01:11:25,047 It was special, it was different. 1327 01:11:25,082 --> 01:11:30,156 It was like a sound of sisters, musical sisters. 1328 01:11:30,190 --> 01:11:35,402 ~ Won't you bury me Beneath the willow ~ 1329 01:11:35,437 --> 01:11:39,337 ~ Under the weeping willow Tree ~ 1330 01:11:39,372 --> 01:11:41,926 ~ Where he may know where... ~ 1331 01:11:41,961 --> 01:11:45,171 At that moment we thought we have to do a record. 1332 01:11:47,242 --> 01:11:50,590 ~ To know know know him ~ 1333 01:11:50,901 --> 01:11:55,491 ~ Is to love love love him ~ 1334 01:11:55,526 --> 01:11:59,633 ~ Just to see him smile ~ 1335 01:11:59,668 --> 01:12:03,845 ~ Makes my life worthwhile ~ 1336 01:12:05,053 --> 01:12:06,986 We learned so much about singing from each other 1337 01:12:07,020 --> 01:12:08,953 because you get to sort of be them for a second 1338 01:12:08,988 --> 01:12:10,437 when you're shadowing them in harmony. 1339 01:12:10,472 --> 01:12:13,682 It's like getting on an eagle and getting to see the world 1340 01:12:13,716 --> 01:12:16,029 through that eagle's experience. 1341 01:12:16,064 --> 01:12:17,686 I get to sing through Dolly's voice 1342 01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:20,413 or sing through Emmy's voice when I sing real close harmony. 1343 01:12:20,447 --> 01:12:22,104 ~ Why ~ 1344 01:12:23,243 --> 01:12:27,316 ~ Can't he see me? ~ 1345 01:12:28,317 --> 01:12:32,080 ~ How I... ~ 1346 01:12:32,114 --> 01:12:34,979 The only big disagreements would be are we going to use autoharp 1347 01:12:35,014 --> 01:12:37,119 or dulcimer on this song. 1348 01:12:37,154 --> 01:12:38,707 - - Yeah. 1349 01:12:38,741 --> 01:12:40,433 Sometimes we would disagree about who would sing lead 1350 01:12:40,467 --> 01:12:42,193 because Emmy and I always wanted Dolly 1351 01:12:42,228 --> 01:12:43,574 to sing lead on everything. 1352 01:12:43,608 --> 01:12:45,610 Oh, well Dolly will sound great on that. 1353 01:12:45,645 --> 01:12:47,923 You sing lead! No, you sing lead! 1354 01:12:49,994 --> 01:12:52,065 Linda is such a perfectionist. 1355 01:12:52,100 --> 01:12:53,584 She's a pain in the ass sometimes 1356 01:12:53,618 --> 01:12:55,966 because she is such a perfectionist. 1357 01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,278 Because she will not have it unless it's perfect. 1358 01:12:58,313 --> 01:13:01,074 She used to make me sing those harmonies over and over 1359 01:13:01,109 --> 01:13:04,319 and I said I'm going to sing it the same way no matter what. 1360 01:13:04,353 --> 01:13:06,493 No, you're not! You're going to hit this one note. 1361 01:13:06,528 --> 01:13:09,324 And see I don't know how to, all those intricate harmonies 1362 01:13:09,358 --> 01:13:10,981 like Emmylou and Linda do. 1363 01:13:11,015 --> 01:13:13,500 I just sing that raw stuff from feeling 1364 01:13:13,535 --> 01:13:16,779 and it ain't always proper but it sounds good. 1365 01:13:16,814 --> 01:13:20,507 ~ Yes just to know ~ 1366 01:13:20,542 --> 01:13:24,615 ~ Is to love love love him ~ 1367 01:13:24,649 --> 01:13:29,275 ~ And I do ~ 1368 01:13:31,553 --> 01:13:34,452 Linda, you've sing just about all types of music. 1369 01:13:34,487 --> 01:13:37,766 Light opera; you've been on Broadway, rock and roll, pop. 1370 01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,044 What's your next project going to be? 1371 01:13:40,079 --> 01:13:42,253 I'm going to do an album of Mexican music, 1372 01:13:42,288 --> 01:13:43,254 of traditional Mexican music. 1373 01:13:43,289 --> 01:13:45,981 I'm kind of a traditional Mexican myself. 1374 01:13:46,016 --> 01:13:48,225 You know, I grew up about 40 minutes from the Mexican border, 1375 01:13:48,259 --> 01:13:51,262 my family are Mexican, and that is my roots. 1376 01:13:51,297 --> 01:13:54,127 That's what I came from and I have been dying to do 1377 01:13:54,162 --> 01:13:55,577 this record for years and years 1378 01:13:55,611 --> 01:13:57,165 and I'm getting around to it this year. 1379 01:13:57,199 --> 01:13:59,305 Boy, I'm going o do it. 1380 01:14:06,519 --> 01:14:09,418 Our neighbor that lived behind us in the garage apartment 1381 01:14:09,453 --> 01:14:12,145 was Harry Dean Stanton, great character actor 1382 01:14:12,180 --> 01:14:15,079 and a great singer of Mexican folk songs. 1383 01:14:15,528 --> 01:14:18,117 We would hear him up until the wee hours singing 1384 01:14:18,151 --> 01:14:21,085 these Mexican folk songs, these canciones. 1385 01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:24,709 And Linda knew all those songs. 1386 01:14:24,744 --> 01:14:27,643 I don't think people thought of her as... 1387 01:14:27,678 --> 01:14:30,129 as Mexican. 1388 01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:33,166 It certainly never came up. I never heard it. 1389 01:14:33,201 --> 01:14:36,204 I mean, the name Ronstadt is not Hernandez. 1390 01:14:36,238 --> 01:14:38,068 Ronstadt is a German-sounding name. 1391 01:14:38,102 --> 01:14:42,072 No, she's certainly from Mexican heritage 1392 01:14:42,106 --> 01:14:44,419 but it wasn't the most apparent thing. 1393 01:14:44,453 --> 01:14:46,455 I want to see where you put your D. 1394 01:14:46,490 --> 01:14:49,079 Say ganador. 1395 01:14:49,113 --> 01:14:51,253 Ga... 1396 01:14:51,288 --> 01:14:54,222 The phrasing, Ganador. 1397 01:14:54,256 --> 01:14:56,431 Ganador. 1398 01:14:56,465 --> 01:14:58,295 Ganador. 1399 01:14:58,329 --> 01:15:00,331 - Dor? - Mm-hm. Mm-hm. 1400 01:15:00,366 --> 01:15:03,231 Is it on the roof of your mouth, the back of your teeth or... 1401 01:15:03,748 --> 01:15:06,855 When he asked me if I would sing a harmony on his record 1402 01:15:06,889 --> 01:15:08,684 I was completely delighted 1403 01:15:08,719 --> 01:15:12,102 because you can only learn by doing. I can't... 1404 01:15:12,550 --> 01:15:14,345 there isn't a book you can get, you know, 1405 01:15:14,380 --> 01:15:17,348 how do you learn how to be a singer in Spanish? 1406 01:15:17,383 --> 01:15:19,523 It's always been a dream of mine to make an album 1407 01:15:19,557 --> 01:15:22,491 of these Mexican songs that I learned from my father. 1408 01:15:29,774 --> 01:15:31,500 My father had a beautiful baritone voice. 1409 01:15:31,535 --> 01:15:33,882 He sounded like a cross between Pedro Infante 1410 01:15:33,916 --> 01:15:35,746 and Frank Sinatra. 1411 01:15:36,816 --> 01:15:39,543 Always if there was a dinner party or something he'd get the 1412 01:15:39,577 --> 01:15:43,167 guitar out and he'd just sing and I always would fall asleep 1413 01:15:43,202 --> 01:15:46,412 in somebody's lap listening to my dad sing some beautiful song. 1414 01:15:48,655 --> 01:15:51,796 We always as a family, we always sang in Spanish. 1415 01:15:51,831 --> 01:15:54,868 Even though I didn't understand much of what I was singing, 1416 01:15:54,903 --> 01:15:56,456 it was something that I learned to do. 1417 01:15:56,491 --> 01:15:58,286 It's kind of like lip reading, you know. 1418 01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:01,530 I used to kind of chameleon in harmony along with my father. 1419 01:16:07,260 --> 01:16:10,539 To learn to sing that style as a grown-up professional singer, 1420 01:16:10,574 --> 01:16:12,162 that took some doing. 1421 01:16:40,328 --> 01:16:42,675 I always forget the beginning where I go through the ending 1422 01:16:42,709 --> 01:16:44,263 and it makes it so hard. 1423 01:16:44,297 --> 01:16:45,919 Oh yeah. What was it, this way? 1424 01:16:45,954 --> 01:16:47,473 Is that how you do it? The Latin way. 1425 01:16:47,507 --> 01:16:48,853 Okay, I got it. 1426 01:16:50,476 --> 01:16:52,409 Okay, I'm learning all these new things. 1427 01:16:59,554 --> 01:17:02,557 My dad invited me to go to the Tucson Mariachi Conference 1428 01:17:02,591 --> 01:17:05,525 and that way I got to meet the Mariachi Vargas. 1429 01:17:08,563 --> 01:17:11,635 Those good bands like the Cobre or the Camperos 1430 01:17:11,669 --> 01:17:13,671 or the Mariachi Vargas, you're going to go to a symphony 1431 01:17:13,706 --> 01:17:15,466 and you're not going to find better musicians. 1432 01:17:15,501 --> 01:17:17,434 They're all virtuoso players. 1433 01:17:22,991 --> 01:17:24,889 I picked a couple of songs. 1434 01:17:25,821 --> 01:17:27,927 The band said these songs are very traditional 1435 01:17:27,961 --> 01:17:29,894 and they're very difficult to do. 1436 01:17:30,723 --> 01:17:32,552 I said well, they're the only songs I know 1437 01:17:32,587 --> 01:17:34,485 so we better learn them. 1438 01:17:41,699 --> 01:17:43,494 I went to the president of my record company, 1439 01:17:43,529 --> 01:17:45,910 who's a man who genuinely likes music, and I said look, 1440 01:17:45,945 --> 01:17:47,705 I made all these records for you, they saw this. 1441 01:17:47,740 --> 01:17:49,362 I'm going to do this just for me 1442 01:17:49,397 --> 01:17:50,294 and this might be self-indulgent. 1443 01:17:50,329 --> 01:17:51,709 If it sells two copies I don't care 1444 01:17:51,744 --> 01:17:54,229 but if I can't record this music I'm going to die. 1445 01:17:55,368 --> 01:17:57,543 I don't understand any Spanish. 1446 01:17:57,577 --> 01:18:01,547 I didn't understand how popular those songs were 1447 01:18:01,581 --> 01:18:06,276 but this is a lady who wanted to do it her way 1448 01:18:06,310 --> 01:18:08,070 and who was going to say no? 1449 01:18:40,862 --> 01:18:43,727 Canciones de mi Padre, it's the largest selling 1450 01:18:43,761 --> 01:18:46,661 Spanish language album in the history of the industry. 1451 01:18:46,695 --> 01:18:50,458 That's the whole Linda Ronstadt story right there in a nutshell. 1452 01:18:50,492 --> 01:18:53,633 Linda deciding she wants to do something, 1453 01:18:53,668 --> 01:18:56,360 the record company telling her she can't. 1454 01:18:56,395 --> 01:18:58,466 She goes ahead and does it anyway 1455 01:18:58,500 --> 01:19:02,953 and they jump on board as the thing starts to take off. 1456 01:19:04,541 --> 01:19:06,922 Toda la Familia would come and they loved it 1457 01:19:06,957 --> 01:19:09,546 because they were here from Mexico. 1458 01:19:09,580 --> 01:19:12,618 Even though their kids had grown up here 1459 01:19:12,652 --> 01:19:14,689 and become American citizens, 1460 01:19:14,723 --> 01:19:17,761 who is this girl singing songs so beautifully. 1461 01:19:26,942 --> 01:19:28,737 The fact that she went on and did that 1462 01:19:28,772 --> 01:19:30,946 and did it in such a big way. 1463 01:19:31,153 --> 01:19:32,914 It was a brave thing to do. 1464 01:19:32,948 --> 01:19:34,674 Many people would have been terrified 1465 01:19:34,709 --> 01:19:36,504 I'll mess up my career. 1466 01:19:37,159 --> 01:19:41,923 But obviously she had purpose, personal decision. 1467 01:19:42,889 --> 01:19:44,028 It's good. 1468 01:20:21,445 --> 01:20:24,414 To have that traditionalism going along on the bus with me 1469 01:20:24,448 --> 01:20:26,692 from town to town where I'd only sung pop music, 1470 01:20:26,726 --> 01:20:29,522 to take that part of the dirt with me, you know, 1471 01:20:29,557 --> 01:20:32,525 the part of the soil of the land where I came from to Cleveland 1472 01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:34,838 and Cincinnati and New York, that was a thrill. 1473 01:20:34,872 --> 01:20:36,909 You should have seen Central Park with, you know, 1474 01:20:36,943 --> 01:20:39,636 close to a million people in it when the mariachi 1475 01:20:39,670 --> 01:20:42,121 got up on stage with their big hats, the place fell out. 1476 01:20:42,155 --> 01:20:44,606 They went nuts. There was such a thing of pride 1477 01:20:44,641 --> 01:20:46,677 that went from the stage to the audience. 1478 01:20:46,712 --> 01:20:48,023 It was just great. 1479 01:20:49,508 --> 01:20:52,821 This song was written by me and my father 1480 01:20:52,856 --> 01:20:55,376 and it's called Lo Siento Mi Vida. 1481 01:21:01,209 --> 01:21:03,453 My dad died when he was 84. 1482 01:21:04,937 --> 01:21:08,078 There was a kind of a peace that happened when he died. 1483 01:21:10,460 --> 01:21:12,634 In the three of four days before he died he was reading to us 1484 01:21:12,669 --> 01:21:15,879 passages from Gabriel Garcia Marquez's book 1485 01:21:15,913 --> 01:21:19,538 Love in the Time of Cholera and it was just a great sharing. 1486 01:21:22,195 --> 01:21:24,646 It was a different experience being with my father 1487 01:21:24,681 --> 01:21:26,924 when he died than it was with my mother. 1488 01:21:28,167 --> 01:21:31,101 I knew I was going to miss him but I accepted it better. 1489 01:21:42,871 --> 01:21:45,460 He had what I would describe as a beautiful death. 1490 01:21:49,844 --> 01:21:51,984 I'd seen her on TV and I thought she was great 1491 01:21:52,018 --> 01:21:55,539 but when she came to New Orleans she was just 1492 01:21:55,574 --> 01:21:59,509 so down to earth and girl next door thing. 1493 01:21:59,888 --> 01:22:01,856 And just humble. 1494 01:22:02,891 --> 01:22:05,169 She was just a sweet, humble person. 1495 01:22:06,516 --> 01:22:09,657 I'd been in New Orleans for the World's Fair 1496 01:22:09,691 --> 01:22:11,521 and somebody said well the Neville Brothers are playing 1497 01:22:11,555 --> 01:22:13,557 at some club down in the Quarter. We should go. 1498 01:22:13,592 --> 01:22:15,766 We going to get serious, serious right now. 1499 01:22:15,801 --> 01:22:18,838 I'm going to turn you on to our brother Aaron Neville. 1500 01:22:18,873 --> 01:22:20,081 Aaron Neville was on stage singing 1501 01:22:20,115 --> 01:22:22,014 this beautiful song Arianne. 1502 01:22:22,048 --> 01:22:23,602 ~ Arianne is April morning ~ 1503 01:22:26,812 --> 01:22:30,850 ~ That comes rippling Through my window ~ 1504 01:22:31,057 --> 01:22:34,854 ~ She's the smell of coffee brewing ~ 1505 01:22:35,165 --> 01:22:39,031 ~ On a quiet, rainy Sunday ~ 1506 01:22:39,238 --> 01:22:40,998 Somebody told me she was in the audience 1507 01:22:41,033 --> 01:22:43,069 so I called her up on stage. 1508 01:22:43,104 --> 01:22:44,968 Sing some doo wop. 1509 01:22:45,624 --> 01:22:47,073 Usually I'll never do anything like that 1510 01:22:47,108 --> 01:22:49,282 because I like to rehearse everything first. 1511 01:22:49,317 --> 01:22:51,664 But I wasn't going to say no to Aaron Neville. 1512 01:22:51,871 --> 01:22:54,253 After that I asked for an autograph. 1513 01:22:54,287 --> 01:22:56,911 She said To Aaron, Love, I'll sing with you anytime, 1514 01:22:56,945 --> 01:22:59,810 any place, anywhere in any key. 1515 01:23:06,196 --> 01:23:08,267 ~ Look at this face ~ 1516 01:23:08,301 --> 01:23:09,786 The next morning I woke up 1517 01:23:09,820 --> 01:23:11,304 and my first thought was boy I like singing 1518 01:23:11,339 --> 01:23:12,996 with Aaron Neville. That sounded pretty good. 1519 01:23:13,030 --> 01:23:14,825 And then I thought, you idiot, everybody sounds good 1520 01:23:14,860 --> 01:23:16,862 when they sing with Aaron Neville. 1521 01:23:17,932 --> 01:23:20,797 I said we got to make a record together and he was up for it. 1522 01:23:20,831 --> 01:23:22,833 ~ I don't know much ~ 1523 01:23:24,145 --> 01:23:27,286 ~ But I know I love you ~ 1524 01:23:30,807 --> 01:23:35,915 ~ And that may be All I need to know ~ 1525 01:23:37,296 --> 01:23:40,126 There were all kind of rumors going on... 1526 01:23:41,196 --> 01:23:44,268 They say oh Linda and Aaron got married or whatever. 1527 01:23:44,959 --> 01:23:46,581 Just crazy stuff. 1528 01:23:46,616 --> 01:23:49,066 ~ Look at these dreams ~ 1529 01:23:49,619 --> 01:23:53,864 ~ So beaten And so battered ~ 1530 01:23:53,899 --> 01:23:55,970 ~ I don't know much ~ 1531 01:23:56,004 --> 01:23:58,110 The producer told us if you don't make it look real 1532 01:23:58,144 --> 01:24:01,631 ain't no sense doing it. So we had to make it look real. 1533 01:24:04,081 --> 01:24:08,292 ~ That may be All there is ~ 1534 01:24:09,017 --> 01:24:12,158 ~ To know ~ 1535 01:24:14,782 --> 01:24:19,131 At the studio I said I'll see you at the Grammys. 1536 01:24:24,067 --> 01:24:26,621 I had a speech but 1537 01:24:27,933 --> 01:24:31,177 Too nervous. I just want to say thank you to Linda first. 1538 01:24:32,247 --> 01:24:34,042 And my wife Joelle. 1539 01:24:36,458 --> 01:24:38,288 Aaron and I won two Grammys for that record. 1540 01:24:40,255 --> 01:24:42,741 But as time went on there was something really wrong 1541 01:24:42,775 --> 01:24:44,190 with my voice. 1542 01:24:46,399 --> 01:24:50,162 I just lost a lot of different colors in my voice. 1543 01:24:51,094 --> 01:24:52,751 There's a lot of things you do in singing. 1544 01:24:52,785 --> 01:24:56,306 You turn your voice to different planes to make different sounds 1545 01:24:56,340 --> 01:24:58,135 and I couldn't do any of that. 1546 01:25:01,345 --> 01:25:03,900 Turned out I had Parkinson's disease. 1547 01:25:06,178 --> 01:25:08,214 Singing is really complex 1548 01:25:08,249 --> 01:25:11,735 and I was made most aware of it by having it vanish. 1549 01:25:12,874 --> 01:25:16,326 I can still sing in my mind but I can't do it physically. 1550 01:25:18,708 --> 01:25:22,677 I sang my last concert on November 7th, 2009. 1551 01:25:23,091 --> 01:25:24,783 It was a Mexican show. 1552 01:25:26,336 --> 01:25:30,305 Must have been quite a reckoning 1553 01:25:30,340 --> 01:25:32,963 to have this marvelous instrument 1554 01:25:32,998 --> 01:25:34,862 that could always hold the notes, hit the notes 1555 01:25:34,896 --> 01:25:36,484 and shape the notes, 1556 01:25:36,518 --> 01:25:39,245 could no longer hold the notes without quiver. 1557 01:25:41,420 --> 01:25:43,802 But there's a lot of good records with 1558 01:25:43,836 --> 01:25:45,493 her magnificent voice on them 1559 01:25:45,527 --> 01:25:48,289 and I hear her laughing in my head all the time. 1560 01:25:48,323 --> 01:25:50,222 I hear that cackle all the time. 1561 01:25:51,050 --> 01:25:52,983 I'm sort of never without her. 1562 01:25:55,814 --> 01:25:59,956 I could imagine not being able to sing for Linda is awful. 1563 01:26:00,370 --> 01:26:06,065 But I also know nobody who could handle that kind of change 1564 01:26:06,100 --> 01:26:09,724 or adjustment in a more logical and thoughtful 1565 01:26:09,759 --> 01:26:12,071 and intelligent way than Linda. 1566 01:26:13,866 --> 01:26:16,075 I don't think she misses going on the road. 1567 01:26:16,351 --> 01:26:19,078 I don't think she misses making records. 1568 01:26:20,873 --> 01:26:23,911 I think she misses singing with her friends 1569 01:26:23,945 --> 01:26:26,914 and singing in the living room with her family. 1570 01:26:29,054 --> 01:26:30,952 There's just no one on the planet 1571 01:26:30,987 --> 01:26:35,129 that ever had or ever will have a voice like Linda's. 1572 01:26:47,141 --> 01:26:49,005 You know, I'm grateful for the time I had. 1573 01:26:49,039 --> 01:26:52,733 I got to live a lot of my dreams and I feel lucky about it. 1574 01:26:55,563 --> 01:26:57,945 Another person with Parkinson's said that life after death 1575 01:26:57,979 --> 01:26:59,325 isn't the question. 1576 01:27:01,362 --> 01:27:03,226 It's life before death. 1577 01:27:05,953 --> 01:27:07,402 So how are you going to do it? 1578 01:27:08,576 --> 01:27:10,198 How are you going to live? 1579 01:28:06,668 --> 01:28:08,222 Couldn't find a part there. 1580 01:28:08,498 --> 01:28:09,982 Start right there. 1581 01:28:18,025 --> 01:28:20,165 I don't even have that note in my speaking range anymore. 1582 01:28:21,891 --> 01:28:25,239 Before you said you couldn't sing anymore. 1583 01:28:25,273 --> 01:28:26,930 This isn't really singing. 1584 01:28:27,448 --> 01:28:30,347 Believe me, it's a few notes. 1585 01:28:30,382 --> 01:28:33,143 - But it's not really singing. - Are you enjoying it? 1586 01:28:33,178 --> 01:28:34,973 Well, I would enjoy it much more if I could sing 1587 01:28:35,007 --> 01:28:36,940 but I can't let them sing this without me. 1588 01:28:37,699 --> 01:28:39,425 It's a family thing. 1589 01:28:40,047 --> 01:28:42,325 Shall we? You guys ready? 1590 01:29:59,989 --> 01:30:01,991 - Do we get to eat? - Yes. 1591 01:30:02,025 --> 01:30:03,509 Good. 1592 01:30:03,544 --> 01:30:06,961 ~ I've been cheated ~ 1593 01:30:07,306 --> 01:30:10,516 ~ Been mistreated ~ 1594 01:30:11,034 --> 01:30:16,350 ~ When will I love be loved? ~ 1595 01:30:18,283 --> 01:30:21,320 ~ I've been put down ~ 1596 01:30:21,734 --> 01:30:24,737 ~ I've been pushed around ~ 1597 01:30:25,255 --> 01:30:30,191 ~ When will I be loved? ~ 1598 01:30:32,331 --> 01:30:35,438 ~ When I find a new man ~ 1599 01:30:35,783 --> 01:30:38,337 ~ That I want for mine ~ 1600 01:30:39,304 --> 01:30:42,445 ~ Always breaks My heart in two ~ 1601 01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:47,277 ~ It happens every time ~ 1602 01:30:48,347 --> 01:30:51,454 ~ I've been made blue ~ 1603 01:30:51,730 --> 01:30:55,009 ~ I've been lied to ~ 1604 01:30:55,389 --> 01:31:00,497 ~ When will I be loved? ~ 1605 01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:19,723 ~ When I find a new man ~ 1606 01:31:20,241 --> 01:31:23,279 ~ That I want for mine ~ 1607 01:31:23,624 --> 01:31:26,765 ~ He always breaks My heart in two ~ 1608 01:31:26,799 --> 01:31:31,597 ~ It happens every time ~ 1609 01:31:32,702 --> 01:31:35,705 ~ I've been cheated ~ 1610 01:31:36,292 --> 01:31:39,329 ~ Been mistreated ~ 1611 01:31:39,743 --> 01:31:44,645 ~ When will I be loved? ~ 1612 01:31:47,199 --> 01:31:51,686 ~ When will I be loved? ~ 1613 01:31:52,756 --> 01:31:54,137 ~ Tell me ~ 1614 01:31:54,172 --> 01:31:57,485 ~ When will I ~ 1615 01:31:57,761 --> 01:31:59,556 ~ Be ~ 1616 01:32:00,523 --> 01:32:05,424 ~ Loved? ~ 1617 01:32:20,922 --> 01:32:23,649 ~ Where have you gone? ~ 1618 01:32:23,684 --> 01:32:26,411 ~ My darling one ~ 1619 01:32:26,790 --> 01:32:29,379 ~ Are you on your own? ~ 1620 01:32:29,897 --> 01:32:32,382 ~ Are you having fun? ~ 1621 01:32:32,727 --> 01:32:35,661 ~ Is there someone to hold ~ 1622 01:32:35,868 --> 01:32:38,630 ~ When you need it bad? ~ 1623 01:32:38,871 --> 01:32:41,736 ~ Is it controlled? ~ 1624 01:32:42,151 --> 01:32:47,190 ~ Like the love we had? ~ 1625 01:32:48,295 --> 01:32:50,573 ~ Does the day go by ~ 1626 01:32:51,263 --> 01:32:53,576 ~ Like a memory? ~ 1627 01:32:54,301 --> 01:32:57,131 ~ Do you ever try ~ 1628 01:32:57,166 --> 01:32:59,789 ~ To remember me? ~ 1629 01:33:00,376 --> 01:33:03,344 ~ In an automobile ~ 1630 01:33:03,379 --> 01:33:05,864 ~ Or a crowded bar ~ 1631 01:33:06,416 --> 01:33:08,901 ~ Well I hope You're all right ~ 1632 01:33:09,488 --> 01:33:14,286 ~ Wherever you are ~ 1633 01:33:15,218 --> 01:33:19,705 ~ If you're still within The sound of my voice ~ 1634 01:33:20,430 --> 01:33:23,882 ~ Over some radio ~ 1635 01:33:24,296 --> 01:33:27,334 ~ I just want you to know ~ 1636 01:33:27,368 --> 01:33:31,683 ~ You were always My only choice ~ 1637 01:33:33,478 --> 01:33:36,136 ~ And wherever you go ~ 1638 01:33:36,412 --> 01:33:39,449 ~ That I still love you so ~ 1639 01:33:39,484 --> 01:33:44,351 ~ If you're still within The sound of my voice ~ 128713

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