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Right now I'd like
you to meet a young lady,
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a very lovely young lady,
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that I really think has
what it takes to be around
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for a long, long time to come.
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I'd like you to meet
Ms. Linda Ronstadt.
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~ Feelin' better ~
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~ Now that we're through ~
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~ Feelin' better ~
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~ 'Cause I'm over you ~
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~ I learned my lesson ~
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~ It left a scar ~
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~ Now I see
How you really are ~
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~ You're no good
You're no good ~
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~ You're no good
Baby, you're no good ~
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~ I'm gonna say it again ~
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~ You're no good
You're no good ~
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~ You're no good
Baby, you're no good ~
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Here's a gal
who really sings great.
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We had her on the show last
year and she was sensational.
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My first guest
occupies a prominent place
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in the Top 40 record charts
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and she
has a big one right now.
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Linda Ronstadt is
one of the really great talents
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in country music.
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Would you welcome
please Linda Ronstadt.
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Ladies and gentlemen,
Ms. Linda Ronstadt.
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~ Now baby
and I'm going my way ~
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~ Forget about you, baby ~
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~ 'Cause I'm leavin'
To stay ~
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~ You're no good... ~
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Linda could literally
sing anything.
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~ No good
~
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I don't think anybody has
tried more different styles
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and nailed it than Linda has.
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There's not that many people
that can pull off new wave music
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and rock and the most
beautiful country ballads.
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Her range is huge.
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She decided
what she wanted to do.
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More important what she
was authentic at doing.
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And they always told her no,
you can't do this,
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you'll ruin your career.
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She did it anyway.
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~ Good ~
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Someone
once asked why people sing.
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I answered that they sing
for any of the same reasons
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birds sing.
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They sing for a mate.
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To claim their territory.
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Or simply to give voice
to the delight of being alive
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in the midst of a beautiful day.
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They sing so the subsequent
generations won't forget what
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the current generations endured
or dreamed or delighted in.
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There are a lot of really
good singers out in the world.
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A lot of better singers
than I am.
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What I did that was different
from other singers,
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I did a whole lot of
different kinds of material.
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People would think that I was
trying to reinvent myself
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but I never invented
myself to start with.
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I just kind of popped out
into the world.
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My mom grew up in Michigan.
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Her dad was an inventor.
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He was the third to
Thomas Edison in the number
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of useful inventions in the 50s.
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He invented the electric stove,
the electric toaster.
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The thermostat for Westinghouse.
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But my grandmother
had Parkinson's disease
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and he spent all his money
trying to find a cure.
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And that's what I have now.
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My mom was really smart too.
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She wanted to study math
and physics
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and the University of Arizona
was really good for that.
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She came out to Tucson
where she met my father.
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My great grandfather
Frederick Ronstadt
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came from Germany
to Mexico in 1839.
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My father's father, Frederico,
moved to Tucson when he was 14
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to work as a wagon maker.
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But his true passion was music.
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So he started the Club
Filharmonico Tucsonense.
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He was the one who
wrote the arrangements
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and taught everybody
how to play their instruments.
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He was like the Music Man.
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If you wanted to serenade
your sweetheart,
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you'd get my grandfather's
band to go.
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And if you had a wedding
or a funeral,
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well, they'd show up for that.
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First time my mother ever saw
my dad he was riding his horse
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up the steps of her
sorority house.
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My dad had a lovely
baritone tenor voice
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and knew a lot of beautiful
Mexican love songs
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that were rooted
in his childhood.
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He serenaded my mother
underneath her balcony.
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And she fell big for him.
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~ I'm a rambler ~
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~ I'm a gambler ~
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~ I'm a long way from home ~
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~ If you people ~
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~ Don't like me ~
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~ You can leave me alone ~
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I grew up in Tucson
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on the last ten acres of my
grandfather's cattle ranch.
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We were very isolated
so if you wanted entertainment
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you kind of had
to make your own.
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There was a lot of music
going on in that house.
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Some of it came in
through the radio.
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That was my best
friend in the world.
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~ How's about cooking... ~
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We had an amazing radio
in Tucson
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because it was really close
to the border.
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We could get the
Louisiana Hayride.
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~ Get goin'
Louisiana Hayride ~
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~ No use for callin' de roll ~
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~ Can't help... ~
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American standards.
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~ ...loving that man of mine ~
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But my grandmother
and grandfather
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were classical music devotees.
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So I would go over to their
house on Saturday morning
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and listen to a live broadcast
from the Metropolitan Opera
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and come home and my dad
would be playing Mexican songs
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on the piano.
My mom would be playing
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some Gilbert and Sullivan piece.
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~ True peace of mind ~
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My sister loved Hank Williams.
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She loved country music.
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~ I can't help it ~
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~ If I'm still in love
With you ~
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My brother would be
singing really high soprano.
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He was in a world-class boys
choir and he was their soloist.
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She wanted to know how
to sing so I taught here.
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So she learned about vibrato
and all that kind of stuff
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when she was like five,
six years old.
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We learned so much about singing
from each other.
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It was completely
incorporated into what we did.
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We sang at the dinner table,
we sang in the car,
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we sang with our hands
in the dishwater.
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I thought Spanish was this
magical musical language.
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When I was growing up
I thought people sang in Spanish
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and spoke in English.
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If you spoke Spanish on the
playground you'd be punished.
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You weren't allowed to do it.
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My sister and brother and I
eventually formed
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a little group.
We called ourselves
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The New Union Ramblers.
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We thought that sounded folky.
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Bobby Kimmel was a guitar
player that I met in Tucson.
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He wrote songs
about his own life.
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I remember them being
one of the best vocal groups
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I had ever heard.
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Bobby joined our family group
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and then he and I used to play
as a duet sometimes.
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We played little clubs in Tucson
but there wasn't very much
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opportunity for us there.
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At some point reality stepped
in and my sister had three kids.
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And then my brother went to
work for the police department.
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Bobby wanted to earn
some money playing music.
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So he went off to California.
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And I was the last man standing.
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~ All the leaves are brown
~
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I went to LA with the
intention of forming a band.
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When I saw the quality of the
singers that were out there
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I started writing
to Linda saying
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if you come out we could form
a band and get a record deal.
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I knew they had more
clubs to play in Los Angeles.
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~ California dreaming
~
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I was telling her
this is kind of an iffy thing.
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You might starve to death
or you might find yourself
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washing dishes
and waiting tables
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before you ever get discovered.
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She says I'm willing
to take the chance.
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I was 18 years old.
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We had a house on the beach
for 80 bucks a month
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in Santa Monica.
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We split the rent three ways.
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It was just great.
It was right on the beach.
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Once she got there
we got to work right away
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and we used to practice
every day.
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Bobby introduced me
to a really good guitar player
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named Kenny Edwards
and we formed a little band
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and we called ourselves
The Stone Ponies.
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~ Look out your window ~
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~ The rain is turning
Into snow ~
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We started playing
little beatnik dives
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and strange pizza parlors,
wherever we could get a job.
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~ Oh how you love me... ~
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There was the trip where I heard
this band called The Byrds.
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They had a light show
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and a lot of acid tripping
kind of stuff going on.
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The Whiskey A Go Go
was very rock and roll.
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I heard the Doors there
and I thought
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oh they're be a really hit band
if they get rid of their singer.
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~ Go, love
Open up the door... ~
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There was the Ash Grove.
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That was where you go
for authentic folk music.
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It's where I first
heard Ry Cooder.
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~ Have you seen
that vigilante man? ~
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Ry Cooder was then and now
the most amazing guitar player
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I've ever heard.
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I knew that had good musicians
in Los Angeles
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but this guy
is really something.
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I thought I'm staying here.
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I'm not going back
to Tucson to live.
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~ All over the land ~
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She came
to Los Angeles at a time
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when the LA rock and roll scene
was in gear and was going.
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Because, see, after
The Byrds did their thing
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with Mr. Tambourine Man,
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then the whole damn thing
broke loose
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and all the record companies
when scurrying around
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like headless chickens trying
to figure out what to do.
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Who can sing folk rock
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and how can we define what
this thing is going to be?
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~ Hey Mr. Tambourine Man ~
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~ Play a song for me ~
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There was a lot
of cross pollination
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that started happening
in the mid-60s, you know,
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country music and folk music
and rock music started
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commingling and blending and you
would get all these hybrids.
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The Troubadour, just a few
blocks from Hollywood Boulevard,
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is known as an avant garde cafe.
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It's the favorite of Hollywood's
young and young at heart.
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The Troubadour was where
everybody went to hang out
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and to be noticed.
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You wanted to make yourself
known to the record community at
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large, you go to the Troubadour,
play an open mic night.
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I can't even name
all the great songwriters
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that came through there.
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I mean, Laura Nyro, Neil Young,
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Joni Mitchell, Tim Hardin,
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Kris Kristofferson, Rick Nelson,
Elton John,
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Jackson Browne.
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It was just week after week
of amazing,
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game-changing songwriters.
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~ Some of them were dreamers ~
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~ Some of them were fools ~
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~ Who were making plans ~
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~ And thinking of the future ~
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I mean, you tried to get a gig
at the Troubadour.
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You wanted to play
the Troubadour.
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All kinds of industry
people hung around in the bar.
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The Troubadour
is important because
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that's where you can get seen.
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It was the place to play.
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Like the minor leagues
in baseball.
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This was your chance,
this was your great chance.
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The Troubadour
was a bustling place.
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They had a hootenanny night
where new artists would come
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and sing a few songs and I used
to go to every hootenanny night
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to see if there was anybody
really talented.
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The Hoot, the Monday
night open mic Hootenanny
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where you'd wait
and get on the list
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and you go up there
and sing your new song.
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You got two or three songs.
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If you were no good you probably
didn't last the second song
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because were, "Hey, get off!"
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And maybe not
even the first song.
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~ Oh, you and I, travel to the
Beat of a different drum... ~
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I heard a song
called Different Drum
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by this bluegrass group
called The Greenbriar Boys.
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~ Every time you make... ~
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It was written by Mike Nesmith
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who was eventually going
to join the Monkees.
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~ You cry and moan
And say it will work out ~
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~ But honey child
I've got my doubts ~
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~ You can't see the forest
For the trees ~
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~ So don't get me wrong
It's not that I knock it ~
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~ it's just that I am not
In the market ~
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~ For a boy who wants
To love only me ~
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We got an immediate
response from managers
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and people who were interested
in our career.
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Herb Cohen
was managing Frank Zappa.
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We had head that he had
been a soldier of fortune.
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He was have killed somebody.
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He was a badass.
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But he was established
and he immediately said,
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"I can get you a record deal."
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~ I believe
And I see no sense... ~
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We recorded a few things,
just the tree of us.
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Then he took those
to the people in power
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and said, "I want to
record these guys."
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Capitol said okay.
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We signed papers and we
were off and running.
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~ Live without me ~
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So we recorded it
with a mandolin
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and a couple
of acoustic guitars
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and the record company
didn't like it.
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And so they said well come back,
we want to recut the song.
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Certainly everything
changed in the studio.
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They had a bunch
of strings in there
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and it was an orchestra
session. I went wait a minute,
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this isn't the way
I thought about the song.
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I said I don't want to put it
on the record because
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that wasn't the way
I'd originally envisioned it.
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~ You and I count to the beat
Of a different drum ~
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~ Oh can't you tell
By the way I run ~
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~ Every time
You make eyes at me ~
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It was a good thing
they didn't listen to me
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because it was a huge hit.
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I'm driving down the road,
you know, in my car
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listening to KTKT radio
and all of a sudden
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she's singing Different Drum.
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I said wait a minute!
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I loved her voice from
the first time I heard her.
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I was a freshman in college.
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The Stone Poneys,
Different Drum.
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Yeah, baby!
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It was just like wow!
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It was just like to pull back
the covering
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of a fully developed
vocal stylist.
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~ Yes and I ain't sayin'
You ain't pretty ~
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~ All I'm sayin' I'm not ready ~
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Most of the time as a critic
you're sitting there saying,
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"We don't give the artist a plus
for this and a minus for this.
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This is kind of good,
that's not so good."
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Bang!
It was like a home run.
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~ Goodbye! ~
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~ I believe in a... ~
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We were out on this tour
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and Herby Cohen comes
to my hotel room and says,
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"I need to tell you that
when we get back to LA,
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the band is breaking up."
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Everybody said, "I don't know
about you two guys
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but we want the girl singer."
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The record company wanted to
develop me as a solo artist.
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Kenny decided to go off to India
and find a guru and meditate.
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And Bobby started a folk
club in LA called McCabe's.
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And I was left with
what in the world to sing.
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I was by myself.
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A harmony singer
with no material.
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The remarkable thing about
the Stone Poney days was
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she had the nerve
to leave a male band
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after it had already had a hit
and go on her own.
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Will you welcome please
Ms. Linda Ronstadt?
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Ronstadt, Ronstadt.
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Did anyone ever suggest that
that isn't the most musical name
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in the world.
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That maybe you should
change it to Linda Marlow or...
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Is there a Linda Marlow?
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And once they learn how
to pronounce my name,
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00:18:50,931 --> 00:18:53,209
that leads to free-for-all
kinds of variations.
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Glenn Campbell once
called me Linda Bedstead.
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You know, I remember you
when you were nothing
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but a little Stone Poney.
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Oh yeah?
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I didn't have any idea
what that means.
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00:19:02,528 --> 00:19:05,877
I know that you were
part of a group, right?
346
00:19:05,911 --> 00:19:07,706
Let's see, how do I explain this
on television
347
00:19:07,741 --> 00:19:08,983
and not get yelled at.
348
00:19:09,018 --> 00:19:10,433
Oh, then maybe you don't.
349
00:19:11,814 --> 00:19:13,401
- I think I don't.
- Oh, yeah?
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00:19:13,436 --> 00:19:15,265
Oh, is it an inside meaning?
351
00:19:15,300 --> 00:19:18,061
Yeah, it has a
lot of different...
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~ Love will abide ~
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~ Take things in stride ~
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00:19:28,451 --> 00:19:32,317
~ Sounds like good advice ~
355
00:19:32,351 --> 00:19:36,770
~ But there's no one
At my side ~
356
00:19:36,804 --> 00:19:41,878
~ And time washes clean ~
357
00:19:44,053 --> 00:19:47,125
~ Love's wounds unseen ~
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~ That's what someone
Told me ~
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~ But I don't know
What it means ~
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~ 'Cause I've ~
361
00:20:01,277 --> 00:20:05,039
~ Done everything I know ~
362
00:20:05,074 --> 00:20:08,767
~ To try to make you mine ~
363
00:20:09,457 --> 00:20:14,290
~ And I think it's gonna
Hurt me ~
364
00:20:14,911 --> 00:20:19,536
~ For a long, long time ~
365
00:20:20,089 --> 00:20:25,301
~ But I've done
Everything I know ~
366
00:20:26,026 --> 00:20:30,444
~ To try to make you mine ~
367
00:20:31,065 --> 00:20:35,345
~ Think I'm gonna
Love you ~
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~ For a long, long time ~
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00:20:42,076 --> 00:20:43,595
I met her in the Troubadour.
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She had this hit
called Long, Long Time.
371
00:20:49,049 --> 00:20:50,567
Apparently she knew
who I was
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based on a record I'd made
with Ricky Nelson.
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She said I like that band you
put together for Rick Nelson.
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00:21:00,198 --> 00:21:01,924
Could you do that for me?
375
00:21:02,269 --> 00:21:04,858
~ She's got everything
She needs ~
376
00:21:04,892 --> 00:21:06,411
~ She's an artist ~
377
00:21:06,445 --> 00:21:09,172
~ She don't look back ~
378
00:21:10,035 --> 00:21:12,486
Herby Cohen was the
manager when I met her.
379
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,453
He gave me these tickets
to Hawaii
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for the Capitol Records
convention.
381
00:21:16,939 --> 00:21:19,286
Linda and I show up
at San Francisco Airport
382
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:23,290
to fly to Honolulu and lo
and behold there was the FBI
383
00:21:23,324 --> 00:21:26,362
to arrest us for receiving
stolen property.
384
00:21:26,396 --> 00:21:29,365
Turns out Herby had bought
the tickets in the lobby
385
00:21:29,399 --> 00:21:31,470
of the building from some guy
386
00:21:31,505 --> 00:21:34,370
probably for 25 cents
on the dollar
387
00:21:34,404 --> 00:21:36,441
and they were hotter
than a two-dollar pistol.
388
00:21:36,475 --> 00:21:39,962
So we spent the day in jail.
389
00:21:42,343 --> 00:21:45,312
She fired Herbie
and asked me to fill in.
390
00:21:45,346 --> 00:21:49,626
~ I don't want
Your lonely mansion ~
391
00:21:49,661 --> 00:21:51,456
I was walking through
the Troubadour one night
392
00:21:51,490 --> 00:21:53,320
on my way to the bathroom.
393
00:21:54,908 --> 00:21:57,911
This band Shiloh got up
and did my exact version
394
00:21:57,945 --> 00:21:59,671
of Silver Threads
and Golden Needles.
395
00:21:59,705 --> 00:22:03,192
~ Silver Threads
And Golden Needles ~
396
00:22:03,226 --> 00:22:04,400
I just went, "What?"
397
00:22:04,434 --> 00:22:06,505
Does, you know, that solo,
I thought, God!
398
00:22:06,540 --> 00:22:08,542
I was appalled that anyone
would actually sit down
399
00:22:08,576 --> 00:22:12,477
with one of my records
and learn the solo off it
400
00:22:12,511 --> 00:22:14,720
like a Led Zeppelin record.
401
00:22:14,755 --> 00:22:17,378
And I heard the drummer and I
thought he was really good.
402
00:22:17,413 --> 00:22:19,933
The drummer was
a guy named Don Henley.
403
00:22:20,312 --> 00:22:23,591
Linda's first solo album
came out in '69
404
00:22:23,626 --> 00:22:27,112
and I moved to LA
in June of 1970.
405
00:22:27,630 --> 00:22:30,253
So my timing was pretty good.
406
00:22:30,529 --> 00:22:32,600
She'd had a bunch
of dates back East
407
00:22:32,635 --> 00:22:34,948
and we needed to put
the band together quickly.
408
00:22:34,982 --> 00:22:37,882
So I hired him for $250 a week.
409
00:22:45,096 --> 00:22:46,925
~ Rescue me ~
410
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,547
~ I want you in my arms ~
411
00:22:48,582 --> 00:22:50,446
~ Rescue me ~
412
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,310
~ I need your tender charm ~
413
00:22:52,344 --> 00:22:54,174
~ 'Cause I'm lonely ~
414
00:22:54,208 --> 00:22:56,314
I knew who she was
because I had her album.
415
00:22:56,728 --> 00:22:59,179
I listened to that
album a hundred times.
416
00:23:00,663 --> 00:23:04,184
She could seem vulnerable
and very feminine
417
00:23:04,218 --> 00:23:08,257
but when she opened her mouth to
sing everything got different.
418
00:23:08,291 --> 00:23:10,535
It was just incredible.
419
00:23:11,536 --> 00:23:14,746
You knew that there was
a very solid core
420
00:23:14,780 --> 00:23:16,748
and a very determined woman.
421
00:23:27,483 --> 00:23:29,416
Just saw her walking
past me in the Troubadour
422
00:23:29,450 --> 00:23:30,520
and she looked so cute.
423
00:23:30,555 --> 00:23:32,005
I just grabbed her by the hand
424
00:23:32,039 --> 00:23:33,938
and I said I think you should
cook me dinner.
425
00:23:34,766 --> 00:23:37,251
And she said okay and
gave me her phone number.
426
00:23:37,596 --> 00:23:39,771
So I called her a couple days
427
00:23:39,805 --> 00:23:41,462
and I said, "Well, you gonna
cook me dinner?"
428
00:23:41,497 --> 00:23:43,395
She goes, "Sure,
come on over." I came on over
429
00:23:43,430 --> 00:23:46,088
and she made me a peanut
butter and jelly sandwich.
430
00:23:47,020 --> 00:23:49,056
And I fell in love with her.
431
00:23:49,091 --> 00:23:51,093
Took her home and the next day
I said,
432
00:23:51,127 --> 00:23:52,439
"Listen, let's go
get your stuff.
433
00:23:52,473 --> 00:23:53,785
You can live here with me."
434
00:23:53,819 --> 00:23:57,133
~ I got a feeling called
The blues, oh Lord ~
435
00:23:57,168 --> 00:23:59,791
~ Since my baby
Said goodbye ~
436
00:23:59,825 --> 00:24:02,449
John David Souther
and Linda Ronstadt.
437
00:24:02,483 --> 00:24:03,691
They were a hot couple.
438
00:24:03,726 --> 00:24:06,625
~ All I do is sit and cry
Oh Lord ~
439
00:24:06,660 --> 00:24:09,766
~ That last long day
he said goodbye ~
440
00:24:09,801 --> 00:24:13,149
JD had had a musical duo
with a guy named Glenn Frey.
441
00:24:16,290 --> 00:24:19,397
He was by best friend
and first songwriting partner.
442
00:24:21,192 --> 00:24:23,780
We really did nothing but just
listen to music and play guitars
443
00:24:23,815 --> 00:24:27,129
and try to write songs and
then go to the Troubadour.
444
00:24:28,820 --> 00:24:31,202
Glenn Frey played
pretty good guitar.
445
00:24:31,512 --> 00:24:33,031
So I went and talked to Glenn
and said,
446
00:24:33,066 --> 00:24:34,791
"Do you want to do this
tour with me?"
447
00:24:34,826 --> 00:24:36,655
He said it would be really cool.
448
00:24:36,690 --> 00:24:39,072
He'd never been
on the road before.
449
00:24:40,107 --> 00:24:42,730
Glenn Frey and I shared
the $12 hotel room
450
00:24:42,765 --> 00:24:44,629
with two twin beds in it.
451
00:24:44,870 --> 00:24:46,562
It was a very modest tour.
452
00:24:46,596 --> 00:24:48,564
I mean, I remember
being in station wagons.
453
00:24:51,325 --> 00:24:53,707
Rooming together, Don
and Glenn each discovered
454
00:24:53,741 --> 00:24:56,296
that the other was a good singer
and songwriter.
455
00:24:57,711 --> 00:25:01,473
And that's when they decided to
get together and form a band.
456
00:25:01,853 --> 00:25:04,131
That band became the Eagles.
457
00:25:06,858 --> 00:25:08,342
They wished us well.
458
00:25:08,377 --> 00:25:11,725
John was very supportive,
Linda was supportive
459
00:25:11,759 --> 00:25:14,383
and they basically said
just go for it.
460
00:25:17,351 --> 00:25:19,526
We didn't have much
success with Desperado.
461
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,598
The record company didn't
know what to do with it.
462
00:25:22,632 --> 00:25:25,049
And then Linda
made it into a classic.
463
00:25:25,601 --> 00:25:29,087
~ Desperado ~
464
00:25:29,639 --> 00:25:34,506
~ Why don't you come
To your senses ~
465
00:25:34,541 --> 00:25:38,855
~ Come down
From your fences ~
466
00:25:38,890 --> 00:25:42,652
~ And open the gate ~
467
00:25:42,687 --> 00:25:45,069
~ It may be raining ~
468
00:25:46,277 --> 00:25:50,419
~ But there's a rainbow
Above you ~
469
00:25:50,798 --> 00:25:55,217
~ You better let somebody
Love you ~
470
00:25:55,562 --> 00:25:58,772
~ ~
471
00:25:59,497 --> 00:26:04,536
~ Let somebody love you ~
472
00:26:05,951 --> 00:26:10,611
~ Before it is too ~
473
00:26:12,406 --> 00:26:15,720
~ Late ~
474
00:26:41,815 --> 00:26:43,575
I knew the Neil Young
tour was coming
475
00:26:43,610 --> 00:26:45,750
and I thought this'll be
perfect for Linda
476
00:26:45,784 --> 00:26:49,650
because she had sung backup on
his big hit "Heart of Gold."
477
00:26:49,685 --> 00:26:52,619
So I called Neil's manager
and I said,
478
00:26:52,653 --> 00:26:55,311
"Listen, Linda's the right
opening act for this.
479
00:26:55,346 --> 00:26:56,657
You've got to help me out."
480
00:26:56,692 --> 00:26:58,901
And they said, "Well,
Neil's gonna go out alone."
481
00:26:59,833 --> 00:27:02,318
~ I want to live ~
482
00:27:02,629 --> 00:27:05,183
~ I want to give ~
483
00:27:05,218 --> 00:27:08,566
Lo and behold like a week
later he called me and he said,
484
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,602
"Neil's done a few dates
in Canada
485
00:27:10,637 --> 00:27:12,570
and it's getting him too tired.
486
00:27:12,604 --> 00:27:14,882
He now wants an
opening act and you're it.
487
00:27:14,917 --> 00:27:17,402
~ I never give... ~
488
00:27:18,541 --> 00:27:20,543
Linda was quite reluctant
at the time.
489
00:27:20,578 --> 00:27:23,512
She was so worried about the
idea of playing a huge
490
00:27:23,546 --> 00:27:26,653
hockey arena tour at that
point in her career.
491
00:27:26,687 --> 00:27:29,897
But we persuaded her that
this would be a good thing.
492
00:27:33,349 --> 00:27:34,626
Thank you!
493
00:27:35,489 --> 00:27:38,803
You would occasionally get
somebody: "We want Neil!"
494
00:27:38,837 --> 00:27:42,979
But by the time the tour got
going, she was holding her own.
495
00:27:43,325 --> 00:27:46,500
~ I've been cheated ~
496
00:27:46,914 --> 00:27:50,228
~ Been mistreated ~
497
00:27:50,677 --> 00:27:55,854
~ When will I be loved? ~
498
00:27:58,029 --> 00:28:01,205
~ I've been put down ~
499
00:28:01,688 --> 00:28:04,829
~ I've been pushed 'round ~
500
00:28:05,416 --> 00:28:10,524
~ When will I be loved? ~
501
00:28:12,871 --> 00:28:15,702
~ When I find a new man ~
502
00:28:16,461 --> 00:28:18,981
~ That I want for mine ~
503
00:28:19,982 --> 00:28:23,468
~ Always breaks my heart
In two ~
504
00:28:23,503 --> 00:28:28,473
~ It happens every time ~
505
00:28:29,578 --> 00:28:31,407
~ I've been... ~
506
00:28:31,442 --> 00:28:34,686
Here's Linda
who I'd never seen live before,
507
00:28:34,721 --> 00:28:38,276
big stage, sold out, huge place.
508
00:28:38,483 --> 00:28:42,729
She comes out there and starts
singing and that voice filled
509
00:28:42,763 --> 00:28:46,319
this arena where I had seen
concerts for a long time.
510
00:28:46,353 --> 00:28:48,976
Nobody filled this arena with
a voice like Linda Ronstadt.
511
00:28:49,011 --> 00:28:51,324
And she just killed it.
512
00:28:51,358 --> 00:28:55,673
She slaughtered this crowd
who didn't come to see her
513
00:28:55,707 --> 00:28:57,778
but they sure left
knowing who she was.
514
00:29:00,436 --> 00:29:03,301
We did 78 dates in 90 days.
515
00:29:03,577 --> 00:29:06,994
We played before 18,000 to
20,000 people every night.
516
00:29:10,550 --> 00:29:13,380
We got to Houston and there
was this new girl singer.
517
00:29:13,415 --> 00:29:14,692
Her name's Emmylou.
518
00:29:16,107 --> 00:29:19,628
It was 1973 during the
one tour I did with Gram.
519
00:29:20,111 --> 00:29:24,011
~ Call happy calling
Children are calling ~
520
00:29:24,046 --> 00:29:27,705
~ In line to ride
On the merry-go-round ~
521
00:29:27,739 --> 00:29:29,500
Emmy started singing
and three notes
522
00:29:29,534 --> 00:29:31,467
the entire place was dead quiet.
523
00:29:31,502 --> 00:29:33,952
It was like they had started
mass or something.
524
00:29:35,022 --> 00:29:37,093
And she was beautiful,
this girl with the long hair
525
00:29:37,128 --> 00:29:38,888
and big brown eyes
and I thought
526
00:29:38,923 --> 00:29:41,512
she's doing exactly
what I'm doing.
527
00:29:41,546 --> 00:29:42,961
She's doing it better.
528
00:29:42,996 --> 00:29:45,516
~ Do not worry
How it's done... ~
529
00:29:45,550 --> 00:29:48,001
And for a minute I thought
well I can get jealous
530
00:29:48,035 --> 00:29:50,417
and then I won't be able
to enjoy her singing.
531
00:29:50,728 --> 00:29:52,730
Or I can just become
a slobbering, drooling fan
532
00:29:52,764 --> 00:29:54,801
like the rest of the people
in the club.
533
00:29:54,835 --> 00:29:57,528
And hope that maybe I
could get her to sing with me.
534
00:29:57,562 --> 00:30:00,772
So I chose the latter as one of
the best decisions I ever made.
535
00:30:00,807 --> 00:30:04,500
And Emmy and I became immediate
music and social friends.
536
00:30:06,951 --> 00:30:11,852
Linda had a lot to do
with lifting me up
537
00:30:11,887 --> 00:30:14,441
at a very, very low
time in my life.
538
00:30:15,994 --> 00:30:19,481
I had been kind of my way
working with Gram Parsons.
539
00:30:19,515 --> 00:30:21,759
I thought I'd found my voice,
540
00:30:21,793 --> 00:30:24,658
I had found something I love
to do singing with him.
541
00:30:24,693 --> 00:30:26,764
~ Love hurts ~
542
00:30:27,972 --> 00:30:30,664
~ Love scars ~
543
00:30:31,769 --> 00:30:33,598
On the road to getting
himself straight
544
00:30:33,633 --> 00:30:37,188
he was drinking a lot less,
he was loving the work,
545
00:30:37,222 --> 00:30:40,709
we loved singing together, we
had a record we'd just made,
546
00:30:40,743 --> 00:30:44,989
and apparently someone showed up
with heroin
547
00:30:45,023 --> 00:30:49,683
which he hadn't done
in a while and it killed him.
548
00:30:50,581 --> 00:30:53,894
It was devastating
to lose him like that.
549
00:30:55,482 --> 00:30:59,590
It was Linda who stepped up
as a friend
550
00:30:59,624 --> 00:31:01,695
and we had just met each other.
551
00:31:01,730 --> 00:31:06,079
She brought me out to LA,
had me stay at her house
552
00:31:06,113 --> 00:31:08,253
and she talked about me
to everybody.
553
00:31:08,288 --> 00:31:12,534
Said how great I was and
genuinely loved my singing.
554
00:31:12,568 --> 00:31:17,159
Genuinely made me feel like
I had something to offer
555
00:31:17,193 --> 00:31:20,921
at a very low time in my life.
556
00:31:21,922 --> 00:31:24,062
~ Love hurts ~
557
00:31:26,168 --> 00:31:28,204
~ Save me ~
558
00:31:28,998 --> 00:31:31,829
~ Free me ~
559
00:31:31,863 --> 00:31:34,832
~ From love ~
560
00:31:35,177 --> 00:31:37,455
~ This time ~
561
00:31:39,561 --> 00:31:43,737
~ Well the train's gone ~
562
00:31:44,117 --> 00:31:47,292
~ Down the track ~
563
00:31:47,327 --> 00:31:53,160
~ and I'm
I'm left behind ~
564
00:31:55,715 --> 00:31:59,270
Linda was always
very tight with her girlfriends.
565
00:31:59,304 --> 00:32:01,721
They sang together, they
shared music together, she was
566
00:32:01,755 --> 00:32:03,654
supportive of me.
567
00:32:03,930 --> 00:32:08,659
I was writing songs and hoping
to make my own record
568
00:32:08,693 --> 00:32:12,110
but of course Linda was
really coming into her own
569
00:32:12,145 --> 00:32:14,768
and starting to be
really successful.
570
00:32:16,736 --> 00:32:18,945
I think a songwriter
doing their songs is different
571
00:32:18,979 --> 00:32:21,154
than a singer do their songs.
572
00:32:21,188 --> 00:32:23,881
Some people prefer the
songwriter doing them, some
573
00:32:23,915 --> 00:32:26,677
people prefer Linda doing them.
574
00:32:26,918 --> 00:32:28,299
But "Lose Again"
she definitely made
575
00:32:28,333 --> 00:32:30,197
into a bigger song.
576
00:32:31,923 --> 00:32:34,857
~ But nothing can save me ~
577
00:32:34,892 --> 00:32:36,963
~ From this
b=Ball and chain ~
578
00:32:36,997 --> 00:32:38,482
Because I couldn't
sing it like that.
579
00:32:38,516 --> 00:32:39,828
~ I made up my mind ~
580
00:32:41,174 --> 00:32:45,696
~ I would leave today ~
581
00:32:46,593 --> 00:32:50,114
I mean Linda came out and turned
it into this power ballad.
582
00:32:50,563 --> 00:32:52,841
~ I know it's insane ~
583
00:32:53,082 --> 00:32:55,291
~ Because I love you ~
584
00:32:55,326 --> 00:32:59,710
~ And lose again ~
585
00:33:00,193 --> 00:33:03,610
~ Oh, I love you ~
586
00:33:03,645 --> 00:33:08,650
~ And lose again ~
587
00:33:16,174 --> 00:33:19,315
Back then there wasn't
competition with women.
588
00:33:19,350 --> 00:33:21,041
So I think, you know, women,
589
00:33:21,076 --> 00:33:22,733
there weren't that
many of us either.
590
00:33:22,767 --> 00:33:25,977
So I think there was a certain
amount of banding together
591
00:33:26,012 --> 00:33:28,601
to sort of share
our woman part of it.
592
00:33:28,635 --> 00:33:30,534
This is a song
off our new album.
593
00:33:32,052 --> 00:33:34,779
It's about a real special
place called home.
594
00:33:35,918 --> 00:33:37,851
That's a Karla Bonoff song.
595
00:33:38,783 --> 00:33:41,993
I had made a demo of Home
and we sent it off to Bonnie,
596
00:33:42,028 --> 00:33:45,272
just a complete long shot,
and she decided to record it.
597
00:33:45,618 --> 00:33:47,999
~ Traveling at night ~
598
00:33:48,897 --> 00:33:51,382
~ The headlights
Were bright ~
599
00:33:51,416 --> 00:33:55,351
~ And soon the sun came
through the trees ~
600
00:33:57,388 --> 00:34:00,322
~ Around the next bend ~
601
00:34:00,356 --> 00:34:03,359
~ The flowers will send ~
602
00:34:03,394 --> 00:34:07,881
~ The sweet smell of home
In the breeze ~
603
00:34:07,916 --> 00:34:10,884
Linda and I are like
sisters, around the same age
604
00:34:10,919 --> 00:34:12,886
and we were coming up
and had the same mutual
605
00:34:12,921 --> 00:34:14,785
other musician friends
and band members
606
00:34:14,819 --> 00:34:18,340
and, you know,
it was a community of artists,
607
00:34:18,374 --> 00:34:22,033
it wasn't sexually divided
between just the women and men.
608
00:34:22,068 --> 00:34:23,863
We weren't thinking
in terms of that.
609
00:34:24,933 --> 00:34:28,143
Linda and Bonnie Raitt
were two of the first women
610
00:34:28,177 --> 00:34:31,215
that I was able to see
as a young journalist
611
00:34:31,249 --> 00:34:34,218
and study the way they operated
in this community.
612
00:34:34,770 --> 00:34:37,048
We're going to move into this
world where we're running bands
613
00:34:37,083 --> 00:34:40,362
with guys in them but we can
also look after each other.
614
00:34:41,397 --> 00:34:44,711
I said if I can have it
on my terms and you understand
615
00:34:44,746 --> 00:34:48,715
I'm not going to be told how to
dress or what music to make.
616
00:34:48,750 --> 00:34:49,992
Great!
617
00:34:50,027 --> 00:34:52,892
We were all throwing away all
those conventions, you know.
618
00:34:54,859 --> 00:34:57,724
The rock and roll culture is so
male dominated and it also seems
619
00:34:57,759 --> 00:35:01,141
to be dominated by sort of
hostility against women.
620
00:35:01,176 --> 00:35:03,143
That this sort of...
621
00:35:04,904 --> 00:35:10,047
sort of sexual identity that is
sort of used as a weapon
622
00:35:10,081 --> 00:35:12,221
against the populace
and women in particular
623
00:35:12,256 --> 00:35:14,189
and then everyone
identifies with it.
624
00:35:14,430 --> 00:35:17,295
And it's sort of sad to me
because what happens is that...
625
00:35:19,090 --> 00:35:23,716
is that rock and roll stars
end up isolating themselves
626
00:35:23,750 --> 00:35:26,408
more and more and more, thereby
increasing their own feelings of
627
00:35:26,442 --> 00:35:30,032
alienation and anxiety and they
wonder why they're so miserable.
628
00:35:30,067 --> 00:35:33,795
That's really when they turn to
drugs and destroy themselves.
629
00:35:33,829 --> 00:35:36,314
It's just very silly.
It just seems very silly.
630
00:35:36,349 --> 00:35:42,804
They lose the ability to focus
on themselves as a person
631
00:35:42,838 --> 00:35:47,187
rather than as an image and
that's very dangerous I think.
632
00:35:47,222 --> 00:35:50,018
And there are always a lot
of people around them,
633
00:35:50,052 --> 00:35:54,781
managers and scene makers,
you know, groupies and whatever,
634
00:35:54,816 --> 00:35:57,750
that are willing to indulge
them in anything they want.
635
00:35:57,784 --> 00:36:01,408
It weakens them,
it weakens them as people
636
00:36:01,443 --> 00:36:03,687
and it eventually weakens
them as musicians.
637
00:36:07,104 --> 00:36:09,347
~ I been warped
By the rain ~
638
00:36:09,382 --> 00:36:11,004
~ Driven by the snow ~
639
00:36:11,039 --> 00:36:13,006
~ I'm drunk and dirty ~
640
00:36:13,041 --> 00:36:14,318
~ Don't you know ~
641
00:36:14,352 --> 00:36:16,147
~ But I'm still ~
642
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,772
~ Willin' ~
643
00:36:21,843 --> 00:36:24,949
~ Out on the road
Late last night ~
644
00:36:24,984 --> 00:36:29,022
~ I'd see my pretty Alice
in every headlight ~
645
00:36:29,057 --> 00:36:30,817
~ Alice ~
646
00:36:31,404 --> 00:36:33,889
~ Dallas Alice ~
647
00:36:34,510 --> 00:36:38,480
~ And I've been from Tucson
to Tucumcari ~
648
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,346
~ Tehachapi to Tonopah ~
649
00:36:42,380 --> 00:36:47,040
~ Driven every kind of rig
that's ever been made ~
650
00:36:47,385 --> 00:36:50,181
I was in New York
and somebody said
651
00:36:50,216 --> 00:36:52,356
you have to go see this girl,
she's amazing.
652
00:36:52,390 --> 00:36:54,772
She's one of the best singers
you'll ever hear,
653
00:36:54,807 --> 00:36:56,187
she's brilliant.
654
00:36:56,878 --> 00:36:59,812
She's incredibly great looking,
she sings barefoot
655
00:36:59,846 --> 00:37:03,263
and will knock you out in every
respect and she did.
656
00:37:03,919 --> 00:37:09,994
~ Whites and wine ~
657
00:37:11,030 --> 00:37:14,033
~ And you show me a sign ~
658
00:37:14,550 --> 00:37:16,276
~ And I'll be willin' ~
659
00:37:16,311 --> 00:37:18,831
I was running
the Beatles record label Apple.
660
00:37:18,865 --> 00:37:21,385
When Apple started to fall apart
and the Beatles were breaking up
661
00:37:21,419 --> 00:37:24,491
and all of that
I went to America
662
00:37:24,526 --> 00:37:26,390
and there I was being a manager.
663
00:37:27,632 --> 00:37:30,359
I wanted to go back
to work as a record producer
664
00:37:30,394 --> 00:37:32,810
so I suggested Linda go
and meet with Peter
665
00:37:32,845 --> 00:37:35,571
which we did and he agreed
to manage her.
666
00:37:37,401 --> 00:37:38,851
There was a high bar there.
667
00:37:38,885 --> 00:37:40,404
Peter Asher had hung
around with the Beatles.
668
00:37:40,438 --> 00:37:43,821
He expected to make records
that are huge successes
669
00:37:43,856 --> 00:37:46,065
and he was poised to do that
with Linda
670
00:37:46,099 --> 00:37:48,412
and Geffen was ready to be
their record company
671
00:37:48,446 --> 00:37:50,172
that would be there.
672
00:37:53,141 --> 00:37:55,626
I started Asylum Records
and signed Jackson Browne
673
00:37:55,660 --> 00:37:59,457
and then signing other artists
and it turned into what it did.
674
00:38:02,633 --> 00:38:04,566
And I knew when I saw Linda
and the Stone Poneys
675
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,533
that she was gonna make it
and she was gonna make it
676
00:38:06,568 --> 00:38:10,365
as a solo artist and I knew she
was going to be a big star.
677
00:38:11,228 --> 00:38:12,816
She didn't think so.
678
00:38:13,609 --> 00:38:16,060
She had very little
confidence in those days.
679
00:38:18,304 --> 00:38:20,168
Linda was feeling like
she wasn't good enough
680
00:38:20,202 --> 00:38:21,894
to be on Asylum Records.
681
00:38:23,412 --> 00:38:26,312
I said to her that
that was crazy.
682
00:38:27,692 --> 00:38:30,074
I'm never really
satisfied with what I do.
683
00:38:30,454 --> 00:38:32,490
And lots of times I hear
that I did something wrong
684
00:38:32,525 --> 00:38:35,045
and it bothers me,
it can ruin my day really.
685
00:38:35,355 --> 00:38:38,531
Linda never thought she
was as good as she was
686
00:38:38,565 --> 00:38:41,258
and that is an interesting
paradox
687
00:38:41,292 --> 00:38:43,467
because she's confident
about her ideas
688
00:38:43,501 --> 00:38:46,297
but not about herself
and not about her singing.
689
00:38:48,092 --> 00:38:51,337
My involvement as a producer
with Linda came when she was
690
00:38:51,371 --> 00:38:54,996
having trouble finishing the
album that became Don't Cry Now.
691
00:38:55,548 --> 00:38:58,551
And that's when we decided that
the next album I would produce
692
00:38:58,585 --> 00:39:00,035
was Heart Like a Wheel.
693
00:39:00,070 --> 00:39:05,040
~ Some say a heart
Is just like a wheel ~
694
00:39:05,075 --> 00:39:07,180
~ When you bend it ~
695
00:39:07,215 --> 00:39:08,699
~ You can't mend it ~
696
00:39:08,733 --> 00:39:12,254
The McGarrigle Sisters, who were
these two Canadian sisters,
697
00:39:12,289 --> 00:39:13,566
they were in an odd category.
698
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,534
They didn't fit in pop music,
they didn't fit in folk music,
699
00:39:16,569 --> 00:39:19,503
they didn't fit anywhere
except they fit in my heart.
700
00:39:19,537 --> 00:39:20,918
We just heard
Heart Like A Wheel,
701
00:39:20,953 --> 00:39:22,575
then I went I have to sing it.
702
00:39:23,645 --> 00:39:27,200
~ When harm is done ~
703
00:39:27,407 --> 00:39:30,652
~ No love can be won ~
704
00:39:30,686 --> 00:39:34,207
~ I know it happens ~
705
00:39:34,242 --> 00:39:37,348
~ Frequently ~
706
00:39:38,556 --> 00:39:40,593
~ But I can't... ~
707
00:39:40,627 --> 00:39:45,080
Linda has the ability
to hear a song and claim it.
708
00:39:45,287 --> 00:39:47,289
You claim it as your own
as a singer.
709
00:39:47,324 --> 00:39:50,258
If you love it like that
you get inside it.
710
00:39:50,292 --> 00:39:51,604
You become it.
711
00:39:52,018 --> 00:39:59,198
~ But my love for you
Is like a sinking ship ~
712
00:39:59,646 --> 00:40:07,654
~ And my heart is on that ship
out in mid-ocean ~
713
00:40:11,451 --> 00:40:13,315
Heart Like a Wheel,
she discovered that song,
714
00:40:13,350 --> 00:40:14,696
brought it to me and I loved it.
715
00:40:14,730 --> 00:40:17,285
I thought it was beautiful
but I was also thinking
716
00:40:17,319 --> 00:40:19,011
in terms of we should
make some hits.
717
00:40:19,045 --> 00:40:20,564
~ Feelin' better ~
718
00:40:20,598 --> 00:40:23,015
~ Now that we're through ~
719
00:40:23,049 --> 00:40:25,189
~ Feelin' better ~
720
00:40:25,224 --> 00:40:27,053
~ 'Cause I'm over you ~
721
00:40:27,088 --> 00:40:28,744
I'm a ballad singer,
I like to sing ballads best
722
00:40:28,779 --> 00:40:31,575
but we needed some up-tempo
songs for the record
723
00:40:31,609 --> 00:40:33,439
and as an afterthought
I had this song
724
00:40:33,473 --> 00:40:36,097
that we'd used
to close the show.
725
00:40:36,131 --> 00:40:37,753
~ You're no good
You're no good ~
726
00:40:37,788 --> 00:40:41,585
~ You're no good
Baby, you're no good ~
727
00:40:42,413 --> 00:40:44,381
~ I'm gonna say it again ~
728
00:40:44,415 --> 00:40:46,555
~ You're no good
You're no good ~
729
00:40:46,590 --> 00:40:50,663
~ You're no good
Baby, you're no good ~
730
00:40:51,284 --> 00:40:53,528
She knew and loved the song,
I knew and loved the song,
731
00:40:53,562 --> 00:40:56,669
and we decided to do
a version of that song.
732
00:40:59,396 --> 00:41:03,607
I stayed up all night assembling
this very complicated,
733
00:41:03,641 --> 00:41:06,679
intricate layered guitar piece.
734
00:41:07,197 --> 00:41:10,510
We worked very long into
like the next afternoon.
735
00:41:11,063 --> 00:41:13,444
And that's when Linda turned up
and didn't like it.
736
00:41:15,136 --> 00:41:17,690
She said, "Oh, I don't like it.
It sounds like the Beatles,"
737
00:41:17,724 --> 00:41:19,209
which it did sound
like the Beatles
738
00:41:19,243 --> 00:41:20,831
but in the end she came around
and said,
739
00:41:20,865 --> 00:41:23,178
"You know what, I was wrong.
It's great."
740
00:41:35,190 --> 00:41:39,746
~ I'm tellin' you now baby
And I'm going my way ~
741
00:41:40,195 --> 00:41:45,269
~ Forget about you, baby
'Cause I'm leaving to stay ~
742
00:41:45,304 --> 00:41:46,753
Every song
that I sing has a face
743
00:41:46,788 --> 00:41:48,652
that I sing it to, you know.
744
00:41:48,686 --> 00:41:53,277
And so when something
happens to me,
745
00:41:53,312 --> 00:41:55,141
it's really funny,
I know so many songs.
746
00:41:55,176 --> 00:41:56,660
When something happens to me
747
00:41:56,694 --> 00:41:58,455
the song will occur
at the same time.
748
00:41:58,489 --> 00:42:00,181
I'll think oh, this song
or that song, you know.
749
00:42:00,215 --> 00:42:02,459
And if it's a song I can sing
then I'll have to sing it,
750
00:42:02,493 --> 00:42:05,427
I'll just burn to sing it.
I can't not sing it.
751
00:42:05,462 --> 00:42:09,397
~ I passed you on the street ~
752
00:42:09,776 --> 00:42:13,884
~ And my heart
Fell at your feet ~
753
00:42:13,918 --> 00:42:16,231
~ I can't help it ~
754
00:42:16,266 --> 00:42:20,856
~ If I'm still
In love with you ~
755
00:42:21,754 --> 00:42:24,722
He would make the assumption
that I was choosing the songs
756
00:42:24,757 --> 00:42:27,208
that we would do on these
records or that I was working
757
00:42:27,242 --> 00:42:29,555
out the arrangements
or this, that, and the other.
758
00:42:29,589 --> 00:42:31,384
And I would have to keep
explaining that
759
00:42:31,419 --> 00:42:34,111
it was Linda and me
in that order.
760
00:42:34,767 --> 00:42:38,460
~ Still in love with you ~
761
00:42:39,668 --> 00:42:42,257
My sister used to play
all these Hank Williams records.
762
00:42:42,292 --> 00:42:44,708
So I thought I can do that.
763
00:42:44,742 --> 00:42:47,849
~ Came slowly stealing ~
764
00:42:49,575 --> 00:42:52,440
~ As I brushed your arm ~
765
00:42:52,474 --> 00:42:56,306
~ And stood
So close to you... ~
766
00:42:56,340 --> 00:42:58,377
Linda knew a good song
767
00:42:58,411 --> 00:43:00,172
and she knew why it was good
and better than that
768
00:43:00,206 --> 00:43:02,243
she knew how to sing it
better than you can sing.
769
00:43:02,277 --> 00:43:06,730
When you become that sharp
of a song stylist,
770
00:43:06,764 --> 00:43:09,698
you get authorship
in a certain way.
771
00:43:09,733 --> 00:43:12,287
I consider her a real author.
772
00:43:12,322 --> 00:43:15,842
She didn't write songs
but she made songs happen
773
00:43:15,877 --> 00:43:17,223
the way she wanted to hear them.
774
00:43:17,258 --> 00:43:22,573
~ I can't help it if
I'm still in love with you ~
775
00:43:23,195 --> 00:43:25,266
I Can't Help it
if I'm Still in Love With You
776
00:43:25,300 --> 00:43:27,164
was a hit on the country charts.
777
00:43:27,613 --> 00:43:30,926
You're No Good was a hit on both
the R&B chart and the pop chart.
778
00:43:31,789 --> 00:43:34,689
So I became the first artist to
have a hit on all three charts
779
00:43:34,723 --> 00:43:36,311
at the same time.
780
00:43:40,764 --> 00:43:44,423
Heart Like A Wheel was
a huge turning point for her.
781
00:43:45,286 --> 00:43:50,325
The avalanche of success
was hitting everywhere.
782
00:43:50,567 --> 00:43:52,983
She was at the forefront
of a kind of pop stardom
783
00:43:53,017 --> 00:43:55,641
that hadn't happened
at that point
784
00:43:55,675 --> 00:44:00,197
but people didn't notice the
difficulty of being a woman,
785
00:44:00,232 --> 00:44:03,925
trailblazing and having
the success of a Mick Jagger.
786
00:44:12,761 --> 00:44:17,318
~ People try to rape me
Always thinking I'm crazy ~
787
00:44:17,352 --> 00:44:20,493
~ Make me burn the candle
right down ~
788
00:44:21,977 --> 00:44:23,807
~ Baby ~
789
00:44:24,359 --> 00:44:26,223
~ I can't stay ~
790
00:44:26,534 --> 00:44:29,709
~ Don't need no jewels
In my crown ~
791
00:44:30,538 --> 00:44:33,230
~ 'Cause all you women ~
792
00:44:33,265 --> 00:44:35,508
~ Are low down gamblers ~
793
00:44:35,543 --> 00:44:37,855
Now I had gigs
like in big sporting arenas,
794
00:44:37,890 --> 00:44:39,961
you know,
stadiums and stuff like that.
795
00:44:40,479 --> 00:44:42,722
I knew the name of every
arena in the country.
796
00:44:42,757 --> 00:44:44,759
We got a gig tonight
at the Spectrum in Philly.
797
00:44:44,793 --> 00:44:45,794
We'll be at the Forum.
798
00:44:45,829 --> 00:44:47,002
Gig tomorrow night
at the Garden.
799
00:44:47,037 --> 00:44:48,003
That's where we played.
800
00:44:48,038 --> 00:44:49,626
She was selling them all out.
801
00:44:49,660 --> 00:44:51,352
~ This low down bitchin' ~
802
00:44:51,386 --> 00:44:53,837
~ Got my poor feet a itchin' ~
803
00:44:53,871 --> 00:44:56,771
~ Can you see
The deuce is still wild ~
804
00:44:56,805 --> 00:44:58,290
She was very good.
805
00:44:58,324 --> 00:44:59,394
Audience loved her.
806
00:44:59,429 --> 00:45:00,361
Records sold.
807
00:45:00,395 --> 00:45:03,536
She was on an uphill swing
all the time.
808
00:45:03,571 --> 00:45:05,504
~ Got to roll me ~
809
00:45:05,538 --> 00:45:09,922
~ Call me the tumblin' dice ~
810
00:45:12,787 --> 00:45:14,478
When we did that tour together
811
00:45:14,513 --> 00:45:16,653
we'd take turns
closing and opening.
812
00:45:18,689 --> 00:45:21,830
You know. Try following
Linda Ronstadt every night.
813
00:45:21,865 --> 00:45:25,558
~ Honey
Got no money ~
814
00:45:26,110 --> 00:45:29,390
~ Sixes and sevens and nines ~
815
00:45:30,011 --> 00:45:33,808
~ Hey now baby
I'm the rank outsider ~
816
00:45:33,842 --> 00:45:35,879
I went to go see her
at the Universal Amphitheater
817
00:45:35,913 --> 00:45:37,846
when she was wearing
her Boy Scouts outfit
818
00:45:37,881 --> 00:45:39,469
and was just rocking.
819
00:45:40,055 --> 00:45:42,575
~ Baby... ~
820
00:45:42,610 --> 00:45:45,060
Linda was able to be
really feminine and sexy
821
00:45:45,095 --> 00:45:49,858
in this world of men and somehow
hold onto herself and do that
822
00:45:49,893 --> 00:45:52,758
and use that in the
best possible way.
823
00:46:04,390 --> 00:46:07,773
There was a lot of dudes running
around the stages then.
824
00:46:07,807 --> 00:46:11,017
But we were on the road
with Linda and killing it.
825
00:46:11,052 --> 00:46:12,329
She was killing every night.
826
00:46:12,364 --> 00:46:14,814
~ The tumbling dice ~
827
00:46:15,953 --> 00:46:17,817
~ You got to roll me ~
828
00:46:17,852 --> 00:46:19,888
I know they liked my singing
and I know they were proud
829
00:46:19,923 --> 00:46:22,408
of what they were doing
but still in rock and roll
830
00:46:22,443 --> 00:46:24,928
the idea that you're actually
working for a chick singer,
831
00:46:24,962 --> 00:46:27,551
in their way they sort of
saw it as not as cool
832
00:46:27,586 --> 00:46:29,070
as if they were their own
rock and roll band
833
00:46:29,104 --> 00:46:30,796
and they were just
all the guys.
834
00:46:32,625 --> 00:46:36,077
~ Baby, baby
Got to roll me ~
835
00:46:36,111 --> 00:46:38,148
There weren't a lot
of women musicians
836
00:46:38,182 --> 00:46:40,771
so it was always a band of guys.
837
00:46:40,806 --> 00:46:44,016
There weren't women bass players
and women guitar players
838
00:46:44,050 --> 00:46:47,778
and sometimes some of these
guys were, they were tough.
839
00:46:49,918 --> 00:46:51,955
I got a lot tougher
and more foul mouthed.
840
00:46:51,989 --> 00:46:52,956
I used to swear a lot.
841
00:46:52,990 --> 00:46:54,475
I mean, I used to talk
like a truck driver.
842
00:46:54,509 --> 00:46:57,132
When I think about the way
I used to talk, I'm shocked.
843
00:47:00,550 --> 00:47:03,000
Without having any other
girls along on the road,
844
00:47:03,035 --> 00:47:05,934
just automatically
you start to imitate them.
845
00:47:09,179 --> 00:47:12,631
Linda was never
comfortable being on the road
846
00:47:12,665 --> 00:47:17,670
but obviously she did her job
and part of her loved it.
847
00:47:17,705 --> 00:47:18,844
Who wouldn't love it?
848
00:47:18,878 --> 00:47:21,640
But I think there was another
part of her that went,
849
00:47:21,674 --> 00:47:23,814
"You know,
this doesn't feel right."
850
00:47:25,575 --> 00:47:26,990
If I were going to
choose something to do
851
00:47:27,024 --> 00:47:28,957
it would not be to stand up
in front of a lot of people.
852
00:47:28,992 --> 00:47:30,718
But I love to sing,
I love to sing.
853
00:47:30,752 --> 00:47:32,996
I love music so at some point
you do whatever you have to do
854
00:47:33,030 --> 00:47:34,756
to do music.
855
00:47:36,206 --> 00:47:39,036
She would confess to me that if
she saw people in the front row
856
00:47:39,071 --> 00:47:42,661
and somebody leans over
and says something to the person
857
00:47:42,695 --> 00:47:46,043
next to them, she thought they
were saying, you know,
858
00:47:46,078 --> 00:47:48,149
she's the worst singer
I've ever heard.
859
00:47:48,183 --> 00:47:49,633
I don't like this.
860
00:47:49,909 --> 00:47:51,635
She really believed that.
861
00:47:53,016 --> 00:47:55,708
You get on the bus at
night, card game going on,
862
00:47:55,743 --> 00:47:57,710
everybody blasting music
863
00:47:57,745 --> 00:47:59,988
or everyone else drinking,
you know.
864
00:48:00,023 --> 00:48:01,852
A lot of drugs around.
865
00:48:02,577 --> 00:48:04,959
A lot of people would go on
stage completely hammered,
866
00:48:04,993 --> 00:48:06,754
completely fucking hammered.
867
00:48:06,788 --> 00:48:10,551
Everybody was up at night
and when the gig ended
868
00:48:10,585 --> 00:48:12,553
you don't go home and have milk.
869
00:48:14,071 --> 00:48:17,592
It was kind of the nighttime
danger fun part about
870
00:48:17,627 --> 00:48:19,214
not having to go to bed.
871
00:48:19,249 --> 00:48:21,216
You know, Keith Richards
can do it, so can I.
872
00:48:21,251 --> 00:48:23,978
Linda's thing was diet pills.
873
00:48:25,669 --> 00:48:27,878
She went through a phase
mostly taking speed
874
00:48:27,913 --> 00:48:30,571
and not eating and being
super skinny.
875
00:48:31,226 --> 00:48:34,575
It seemed like it was so hard
to be out there day after day
876
00:48:34,609 --> 00:48:36,577
and to try to get up the energy
to sort of do that
877
00:48:36,611 --> 00:48:39,649
when you were just wrung out
878
00:48:39,683 --> 00:48:42,686
from the sense of being
dislocated from place.
879
00:48:44,723 --> 00:48:47,242
I was with a bunch of people
that were basically earnest
880
00:48:47,277 --> 00:48:48,761
and basically honest
881
00:48:48,796 --> 00:48:51,592
and the kind of paranoia
that was introduced by drugs
882
00:48:51,626 --> 00:48:53,594
was so destructive in our
ability to communicate
883
00:48:53,628 --> 00:48:54,491
with each other.
884
00:48:54,526 --> 00:48:56,631
That really saddened me.
885
00:48:56,666 --> 00:48:59,945
And then at some point
we all just stopped.
886
00:49:04,018 --> 00:49:05,951
~ I feel so bad ~
887
00:49:05,985 --> 00:49:09,264
~ I got a worried mind ~
888
00:49:10,196 --> 00:49:12,544
~ I'm so lonesome ~
889
00:49:12,578 --> 00:49:14,477
~ All the time ~
890
00:49:15,581 --> 00:49:19,965
~ Since I left my
Baby behind ~
891
00:49:19,999 --> 00:49:22,554
~ On Blue Bayou ~
892
00:49:26,592 --> 00:49:30,769
~ Saving nickels
Saving dimes ~
893
00:49:31,873 --> 00:49:35,808
~ Workin' 'til
The sun don't shine ~
894
00:49:36,982 --> 00:49:41,089
~ Looking forward
To happier times ~
895
00:49:41,124 --> 00:49:43,816
~ On Blue Bayou ~
896
00:49:45,956 --> 00:49:48,890
~ I'm going back someday ~
897
00:49:49,339 --> 00:49:51,306
~ Come what may ~
898
00:49:51,341 --> 00:49:55,034
~ To Blue Bayou ~
899
00:49:56,311 --> 00:49:59,176
~ Where the folks are fine ~
900
00:49:59,211 --> 00:50:02,179
~ And the world is mine ~
901
00:50:02,214 --> 00:50:05,251
~ On Blue Bayou ~
902
00:50:06,218 --> 00:50:09,670
When Rolling Stone was ready to
put Linda Ronstadt on the cover
903
00:50:09,704 --> 00:50:12,983
that was her absolute peak
up until then.
904
00:50:13,190 --> 00:50:16,815
~ If I could only see ~
905
00:50:16,849 --> 00:50:19,783
Generally it was a very
male-oriented
906
00:50:19,818 --> 00:50:22,199
denim-clad warrior cover.
907
00:50:23,994 --> 00:50:25,927
So here comes Linda Ronstadt
908
00:50:25,962 --> 00:50:29,931
and she and Annie Leibovitz
put together this photo session
909
00:50:29,966 --> 00:50:32,140
that was like no other
cover that had been
910
00:50:32,175 --> 00:50:34,108
on Rolling Stone before.
911
00:50:36,144 --> 00:50:38,077
She was honest
912
00:50:40,942 --> 00:50:43,082
and opened her heart.
913
00:50:43,945 --> 00:50:48,018
She said, "This gets lonely and
I don't know where it ends up.
914
00:50:48,260 --> 00:50:50,089
It's an emotional journey
915
00:50:50,124 --> 00:50:52,126
and I'm happy that I brought
this kind of joy.
916
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:53,783
But you know what?
When I'm here alone
917
00:50:53,817 --> 00:50:57,649
in this Malibu home that looks
very cozy, it's lonely."
918
00:50:58,753 --> 00:51:01,238
There's a lot of show business
people down here, you know.
919
00:51:01,273 --> 00:51:03,206
It's not my style exactly.
920
00:51:03,240 --> 00:51:06,036
Where did you live before?
921
00:51:06,071 --> 00:51:08,970
Nowhere really. I was on the
road for about ten years
922
00:51:09,005 --> 00:51:12,008
and I didn't exactly have
a home.
923
00:51:12,456 --> 00:51:17,358
~ On Blue Bayou ~
924
00:51:32,235 --> 00:51:34,893
Singing the National
Anthem here at Dodger Stadium,
925
00:51:34,927 --> 00:51:36,895
Ms. Linda Ronstadt.
926
00:51:41,140 --> 00:51:43,729
~ Oh, say can you see? ~
927
00:51:43,764 --> 00:51:47,146
I remember my dad was watching
her at the game.
928
00:51:47,181 --> 00:51:49,286
She sang the National Anthem.
929
00:51:49,804 --> 00:51:53,808
~ What so proudly we hailed ~
930
00:51:54,015 --> 00:51:55,672
~ At the twilight's... ~
931
00:51:55,707 --> 00:51:57,191
All of sudden there she is.
932
00:51:57,225 --> 00:52:00,090
She'd come in the limo straight
to the restaurant from the game
933
00:52:00,125 --> 00:52:01,782
to have something to eat.
934
00:52:02,921 --> 00:52:06,062
My parents had a small
restaurant on Melrose Avenue
935
00:52:06,096 --> 00:52:09,272
across the street from what
was then KHJ Radio
936
00:52:09,306 --> 00:52:11,688
which was the radio
station in the day.
937
00:52:12,309 --> 00:52:15,209
Linda walked in and my dad
was wearing a shirt
938
00:52:15,243 --> 00:52:18,039
that we call in Mexico Aloe Vera
939
00:52:18,074 --> 00:52:21,456
and it has four pockets
and it's white and she said,
940
00:52:21,491 --> 00:52:22,837
"This is a good place
941
00:52:22,872 --> 00:52:25,012
because he's wearing
the shirt my dad wears.
942
00:52:25,875 --> 00:52:27,946
A lot of the people
who hung out at the Troubadour
943
00:52:27,980 --> 00:52:29,948
also ate at Lucy's.
944
00:52:30,776 --> 00:52:33,986
Lucy was very shall we say
loose with the check
945
00:52:34,021 --> 00:52:36,402
now and again
and if we were on hard times.
946
00:52:37,472 --> 00:52:40,855
Our customers were not
just soon-to-be celebrities
947
00:52:40,890 --> 00:52:44,203
of the industries, they were the
oligarch of Los Angeles.
948
00:52:44,238 --> 00:52:46,896
I mean, you're talking
old-school money.
949
00:52:48,311 --> 00:52:50,037
There was a big
communal table that my father
950
00:52:50,071 --> 00:52:51,176
used to sit everybody at.
951
00:52:51,210 --> 00:52:53,385
So you'd sit with policemen,
you'd sit with firemen,
952
00:52:53,419 --> 00:52:56,008
sometimes you'd sit with an
actor, sometimes you'd sit...
953
00:52:56,043 --> 00:52:58,839
a football player. You never
had any idea who you'd sit with.
954
00:52:58,873 --> 00:53:01,945
What happened was Linda
had decided
955
00:53:01,980 --> 00:53:03,947
that she wanted to change
the 8-track
956
00:53:03,982 --> 00:53:05,224
because she wanted to hear
something else.
957
00:53:05,259 --> 00:53:08,814
So she had to step up
on this little wine rack
958
00:53:08,849 --> 00:53:11,955
and at that moment the Governor
Jerry Brown comes in
959
00:53:11,990 --> 00:53:15,994
that room and he sees her
and it was like wow!
960
00:53:16,028 --> 00:53:17,236
Who's she?
961
00:53:18,065 --> 00:53:21,413
So my father went
and he sat them together.
962
00:53:22,897 --> 00:53:24,450
And, well,
he fell in love with her.
963
00:53:24,485 --> 00:53:26,280
There was no question
about that.
964
00:53:27,350 --> 00:53:28,903
Jerry likes passionate music.
965
00:53:28,938 --> 00:53:30,974
He likes passionate music,
passionate women,
966
00:53:31,009 --> 00:53:32,355
that's his deal.
967
00:53:33,011 --> 00:53:34,978
We had a really
good time together.
968
00:53:37,394 --> 00:53:39,811
He went out to run for president
for the last couple of months
969
00:53:39,845 --> 00:53:42,883
and he pending for the fact that
I got to see him on TV
970
00:53:42,917 --> 00:53:45,057
I may have forgot
what he looked like.
971
00:53:47,542 --> 00:53:49,096
But he came back yesterday.
972
00:53:49,130 --> 00:53:50,511
He's gonna make it
all better now.
973
00:53:53,963 --> 00:53:55,481
That's what he told me anyway.
974
00:53:55,516 --> 00:53:57,276
I have yet to see.
975
00:53:57,587 --> 00:54:01,108
~ My boyfriend's back
And you're gonna be trouble ~
976
00:54:01,142 --> 00:54:04,456
~ Hey now, hey now
My boyfriend's back ~
977
00:54:04,490 --> 00:54:05,906
~ When you see him coming... ~
978
00:54:05,940 --> 00:54:07,942
Did you have much of a problem
when you're with Jerry Brown
979
00:54:07,977 --> 00:54:10,807
people expecting you
to have political views
980
00:54:10,842 --> 00:54:13,258
along the lines of
Governor Brown?
981
00:54:13,292 --> 00:54:15,916
Whereas you're a
singer, he's a politician.
982
00:54:15,950 --> 00:54:17,469
Our relationship
was completely personal,
983
00:54:17,503 --> 00:54:18,850
it wasn't political at all.
984
00:54:18,884 --> 00:54:21,059
So, you know, he did politics,
I did music.
985
00:54:21,093 --> 00:54:23,406
- Right.
- It's easy to separate that.
986
00:54:23,647 --> 00:54:25,857
You went to South Africa
recently.
987
00:54:25,891 --> 00:54:28,307
Did you receive criticism
for going there?
988
00:54:28,342 --> 00:54:30,482
As far as I was concerned
it was just a gig.
989
00:54:30,516 --> 00:54:32,553
I don't think that if you
disagree with the policies
990
00:54:32,587 --> 00:54:35,073
of the government, which I do
very definitely disagree
991
00:54:35,107 --> 00:54:37,144
with the policies of the
South African government,
992
00:54:37,178 --> 00:54:38,593
I don't think that's enough
of a reason not to go
993
00:54:38,628 --> 00:54:39,871
and play music there.
994
00:54:39,905 --> 00:54:42,563
If I did that I wouldn't be able
to play in the United State
995
00:54:42,597 --> 00:54:44,876
because I don't agree with their
policies about nuclear power,
996
00:54:44,910 --> 00:54:46,118
nuclear warfare.
997
00:54:46,153 --> 00:54:49,190
I mean, my God, we've got this
person running the country
998
00:54:49,225 --> 00:54:50,951
that I completely disagree with.
999
00:54:50,985 --> 00:54:53,436
If I decided that I wasn't
going to play where attitudes
1000
00:54:53,470 --> 00:54:57,198
of racism prevailed, I certainly
couldn't play in Australia
1001
00:54:57,233 --> 00:55:01,064
or England or lots of places
in the United States,
1002
00:55:01,099 --> 00:55:03,377
a lot of places in the American
South or Boston
1003
00:55:03,411 --> 00:55:05,068
which is extremely racist.
1004
00:55:05,103 --> 00:55:08,002
I went to South Africa, it has a
fascist repressive government.
1005
00:55:08,037 --> 00:55:09,555
I'm very interested in
the culture down there.
1006
00:55:09,590 --> 00:55:10,591
You just got finished talking.
1007
00:55:10,625 --> 00:55:12,904
You say why does anyone
think I'm controversial.
1008
00:55:12,938 --> 00:55:15,078
Do you realized what
you've just talked about here?
1009
00:55:15,113 --> 00:55:17,356
We've just received all your
political views in one blow.
1010
00:55:17,391 --> 00:55:19,393
I'm teasing.
I'm not putting it down.
1011
00:55:19,427 --> 00:55:21,878
I don't think my political
views are very controversial.
1012
00:55:21,913 --> 00:55:23,949
Who likes nuclear warfare?
1013
00:55:23,984 --> 00:55:26,538
I remember her having the Wall
Street Journal in her bag
1014
00:55:26,572 --> 00:55:29,541
one time in the 70s when she was
dating Jerry and I went,
1015
00:55:29,575 --> 00:55:32,682
you know, I had thought she was
really smart but she's really
1016
00:55:32,716 --> 00:55:35,927
well read and very, very up
on a lot of different things.
1017
00:55:35,961 --> 00:55:40,586
She's as wide ranging in her
critical intellectual pursuits
1018
00:55:40,621 --> 00:55:44,107
as she is in her music pursuits
and you don't find that kind
1019
00:55:44,142 --> 00:55:47,490
of depth and eclecticism
in pop music.
1020
00:55:49,147 --> 00:55:53,910
Jerry needed somebody that could
be full-time there for him.
1021
00:55:54,704 --> 00:55:57,189
You couldn't have two careers
in that family.
1022
00:55:57,224 --> 00:56:00,192
~ I never will marry... ~
1023
00:56:00,227 --> 00:56:01,504
There's not enough time.
1024
00:56:01,538 --> 00:56:04,541
~ I'll be no man's wife ~
1025
00:56:05,335 --> 00:56:08,338
~ I tend to stay single ~
1026
00:56:09,546 --> 00:56:12,549
~ For my rest of my life ~
1027
00:56:13,102 --> 00:56:15,621
I mean, the same
reason I never got married.
1028
00:56:16,415 --> 00:56:18,176
I don't know, I think
it's hard being a woman
1029
00:56:18,210 --> 00:56:19,556
in the music business.
1030
00:56:19,591 --> 00:56:23,043
You know,
it's a different kind of life.
1031
00:56:23,319 --> 00:56:25,562
~ Rushing waters ~
1032
00:56:26,253 --> 00:56:30,119
~ Went over my head ~
1033
00:56:30,153 --> 00:56:32,259
Well you don't need to
get married, you what I mean?
1034
00:56:32,293 --> 00:56:34,295
It's like we have our own income
1035
00:56:34,330 --> 00:56:37,505
and you don't have to have
the state verify
1036
00:56:37,540 --> 00:56:39,128
that you love somebody
1037
00:56:39,162 --> 00:56:41,130
and when that relationship's
over you leave.
1038
00:56:41,164 --> 00:56:42,994
Neither one of us are
really made for marriage
1039
00:56:43,028 --> 00:56:45,686
or I think long-term
relationships.
1040
00:56:46,411 --> 00:56:47,757
Why did you break up?
1041
00:56:47,791 --> 00:56:50,622
I can't remember.
Maybe she could tell you.
1042
00:56:50,656 --> 00:56:54,453
~ It's so easy to fall in love ~
1043
00:56:54,764 --> 00:56:58,561
~ It's so easy to fall in love ~
1044
00:56:59,389 --> 00:57:02,737
~ People tell me
Love's for fools ~
1045
00:57:03,290 --> 00:57:07,156
~ But here I go
Breaking all the rules ~
1046
00:57:07,190 --> 00:57:09,089
~ Seems so easy... ~
1047
00:57:09,123 --> 00:57:12,575
My mom wanted to be a scientist
but she had four kids
1048
00:57:12,609 --> 00:57:15,750
and I think it was also a little
bit of a disappointment.
1049
00:57:15,785 --> 00:57:18,270
~ It's so easy
To fall in love... ~
1050
00:57:18,305 --> 00:57:21,135
She always said to me
go out and have a life.
1051
00:57:21,170 --> 00:57:24,000
You don't just have to get
married, there are alternatives.
1052
00:57:24,035 --> 00:57:27,555
~ It's so easy
to fall in love ~
1053
00:57:28,142 --> 00:57:31,594
~ It's so easy
to fall in love ~
1054
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,426
I have to confess, I got a
really bad crush on this guy.
1055
00:57:37,634 --> 00:57:40,430
We had a little romance for a
while but it wasn't long lived.
1056
00:57:40,465 --> 00:57:42,398
He dumped me for this pig.
1057
00:57:42,432 --> 00:57:44,745
Well, at least
I got his picture.
1058
00:57:47,299 --> 00:57:49,301
~ Does he love me? ~
1059
00:57:49,336 --> 00:57:51,476
~ I want to know ~
1060
00:57:51,510 --> 00:57:55,169
~ How can I tell
if he loves me so? ~
1061
00:57:55,204 --> 00:57:57,137
~ Is it in his eyes? ~
1062
00:57:57,171 --> 00:57:59,277
~ Oh no, you make believe ~
1063
00:57:59,311 --> 00:58:01,348
~ Is it in his size ~
1064
00:58:01,382 --> 00:58:03,453
~ Oh no
You'll be deceived ~
1065
00:58:03,488 --> 00:58:07,457
~ If you want to know
if he loves you so ~
1066
00:58:07,492 --> 00:58:09,321
~ It's in his kiss ~
1067
00:58:09,356 --> 00:58:11,151
~ That's where it is ~
1068
00:58:11,496 --> 00:58:15,155
To present the nominees
for favorite female
1069
00:58:15,189 --> 00:58:20,367
in rock and pop are Teddy
Pendergrass and Tanya Tucker.
1070
00:58:20,643 --> 00:58:23,059
The nominees are:
Linda Ronstadt.
1071
00:58:26,131 --> 00:58:27,857
Ms. Barbara Streisand.
1072
00:58:30,515 --> 00:58:31,757
And Donna Summer.
1073
00:58:33,138 --> 00:58:34,174
You open the envelope.
1074
00:58:34,208 --> 00:58:35,313
I'm too nervous.
1075
00:58:35,347 --> 00:58:37,798
I'll do the gentlemanly
thing here and I'll open it.
1076
00:58:37,832 --> 00:58:40,421
- If you will read.
- Okay. And the winner is...
1077
00:58:40,456 --> 00:58:41,595
Linda Ronstadt.
1078
00:58:46,117 --> 00:58:47,739
Linda was the queen.
1079
00:58:47,773 --> 00:58:50,155
She was like what
Beyoncรฉ is now.
1080
00:58:52,192 --> 00:58:54,815
She was the first female
rock and roll star.
1081
00:58:55,264 --> 00:58:57,300
~ Want love? ~
1082
00:58:58,715 --> 00:59:00,648
~ Get closer ~
1083
00:59:01,580 --> 00:59:03,617
She was the only
female artist the have
1084
00:59:03,651 --> 00:59:08,760
five platinum albums in a row
and most of them multi-platinum.
1085
00:59:09,485 --> 00:59:11,625
~ Hold my hand ~
1086
00:59:12,833 --> 00:59:15,525
For favorite female
in rock and pop...
1087
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:16,768
Favorite country single...
1088
00:59:16,802 --> 00:59:18,873
Blue Bayou by Linda Ronstadt.
1089
00:59:18,908 --> 00:59:20,772
- And the winner is...
- Takes another one.
1090
00:59:20,806 --> 00:59:23,844
- Linda Ronstadt.
- The winner is Linda Ronstadt.
1091
00:59:24,431 --> 00:59:27,848
~ You make a fuss when
her eyes ain't on you ~
1092
00:59:27,882 --> 00:59:31,438
~ Well give us something
to look forward to ~
1093
00:59:31,472 --> 00:59:34,751
~ Remember all those
other girls who ran ~
1094
00:59:35,373 --> 00:59:37,892
The nature of being a pop
musician is that you get
1095
00:59:37,927 --> 00:59:39,722
these things
that are successful
1096
00:59:39,756 --> 00:59:41,827
and you have to sing them
for the rest of your life.
1097
00:59:41,862 --> 00:59:43,484
Over and over and over again
and they start sounding
1098
00:59:43,519 --> 00:59:45,383
like your washing machine.
1099
00:59:47,971 --> 00:59:50,940
I didn't like singing in big
arenas because the sound
1100
00:59:50,974 --> 00:59:54,219
was like, you know, you'd hear
the guitar solo that
1101
00:59:54,254 --> 00:59:56,808
they played last week still
ringing around the rafters.
1102
00:59:59,362 --> 01:00:01,847
So I started looking
for other things to do.
1103
01:00:06,507 --> 01:00:09,476
There is this feeling that
she has about the music itself
1104
01:00:09,510 --> 01:00:11,823
rather than the career itself.
1105
01:00:11,857 --> 01:00:15,447
You know, some people are
just hardcore careerists.
1106
01:00:15,654 --> 01:00:17,484
There's nothing wrong with that.
1107
01:00:18,209 --> 01:00:21,557
You know, it's how your mind
works that makes the difference.
1108
01:00:21,591 --> 01:00:25,423
It's how you see yourself or how
you see yourself in the world,
1109
01:00:25,457 --> 01:00:26,493
you know.
1110
01:00:26,527 --> 01:00:29,875
And not everybody's
a pure art for art's sake
1111
01:00:29,910 --> 01:00:31,877
and not everybody's
a pure careerist either,
1112
01:00:31,912 --> 01:00:33,016
especially in music
1113
01:00:33,051 --> 01:00:36,606
because musicians love music
or they wouldn't do it.
1114
01:00:39,609 --> 01:00:41,301
She wanted to change.
1115
01:00:41,335 --> 01:00:43,717
She got tired
of doing arena rock,
1116
01:00:43,751 --> 01:00:45,650
she wanted to try
different things.
1117
01:00:47,583 --> 01:00:49,757
I picked up the phone and called
my great friend John Rockwell
1118
01:00:49,792 --> 01:00:52,864
who writes music criticism
for the New York Times.
1119
01:00:53,899 --> 01:00:56,419
I said I hate playing
these big sporting arenas.
1120
01:00:56,454 --> 01:00:59,181
It's not good for the audience,
it's not good for the band.
1121
01:00:59,422 --> 01:01:02,632
I want to sing in a theater
with a proscenium and a curtain.
1122
01:01:03,046 --> 01:01:04,841
He said well the next time
you come to New York
1123
01:01:04,876 --> 01:01:07,844
I'll take you down to meet this
fellow named Joseph Papp.
1124
01:01:08,328 --> 01:01:10,468
He has a theater, it's called
the New York Public Theater
1125
01:01:10,502 --> 01:01:13,609
and he does Shakespeare and he
does musicals; he did Hair.
1126
01:01:14,299 --> 01:01:16,612
He wanted to do
The Pirates of Penzance.
1127
01:01:17,302 --> 01:01:19,580
My mom was
a Gilbert and Sullivan lover.
1128
01:01:19,615 --> 01:01:22,928
She had a big book of Gilbert
and Sullivan songs on the piano.
1129
01:01:23,550 --> 01:01:27,519
And I actually learned all
the soprano parts as a kid.
1130
01:01:27,968 --> 01:01:29,935
And I loved singing them
1131
01:01:29,970 --> 01:01:32,524
but I never got a chance to
in rock and roll.
1132
01:01:33,284 --> 01:01:36,494
That was in her roots,
that was in her upbringing,
1133
01:01:36,528 --> 01:01:40,222
it was part of her authentic
musical experience.
1134
01:01:41,533 --> 01:01:43,708
Joe called me and
said if I wanted to do the part
1135
01:01:43,742 --> 01:01:45,261
I could have it.
1136
01:01:45,296 --> 01:01:46,780
And I said no I have to come
and audition
1137
01:01:46,814 --> 01:01:48,885
because I didn't know whether
I could sing it or not.
1138
01:01:49,714 --> 01:01:52,579
She wanted to be certain
that she would do it well.
1139
01:01:52,820 --> 01:01:54,753
They thought being able to say
Linda Ronstadt's in it
1140
01:01:54,788 --> 01:01:56,721
would be good for business.
1141
01:01:56,755 --> 01:01:59,793
But her concern was whether
it would be good for the show.
1142
01:02:03,935 --> 01:02:06,524
I was there for several
rehearsals and she was fabulous.
1143
01:02:06,558 --> 01:02:08,940
She just grabbed it
by the horns and...
1144
01:02:14,532 --> 01:02:15,981
That was the first job
I was ever offered
1145
01:02:16,016 --> 01:02:17,293
where I actually got
to sing like that.
1146
01:02:17,328 --> 01:02:19,985
I was delighted, I really was.
But I can't do it very well yet.
1147
01:02:20,020 --> 01:02:21,815
Because it's really hard.
You can't learn that overnight.
1148
01:02:21,849 --> 01:02:24,473
- You got to be in training.
- In training, yup.
1149
01:02:28,097 --> 01:02:32,481
Linda had a great voice and she
had a great vision for herself
1150
01:02:32,515 --> 01:02:36,001
and she didn't want to just
be singing rock and roll,
1151
01:02:36,036 --> 01:02:37,624
she wanted to do everything.
1152
01:02:38,003 --> 01:02:41,352
~ Hold, monsters! ~
1153
01:02:41,697 --> 01:02:44,044
~ Ere your pirate
Caravanserai ~
1154
01:02:44,078 --> 01:02:47,979
~ Proceed, against our will
to wed us all ~
1155
01:02:48,635 --> 01:02:52,949
~ Just bear in mind that we
Are Wards in Chancery ~
1156
01:02:52,984 --> 01:02:56,988
~ And father
is a Major-General ~
1157
01:02:57,022 --> 01:02:59,093
I knew some of her songs, sure.
1158
01:02:59,128 --> 01:03:01,717
But operetta?
1159
01:03:01,958 --> 01:03:03,408
~ Prepare! ~
1160
01:03:03,443 --> 01:03:09,103
~ Unhappy General Stanley ~
1161
01:03:09,138 --> 01:03:11,382
A week into rehearsal we all
sang through the score
1162
01:03:11,485 --> 01:03:13,660
just sitting in a circle
in chairs
1163
01:03:13,694 --> 01:03:17,767
and when I heard her voice
it was just
1164
01:03:17,802 --> 01:03:24,360
this belle canto soprano
gorgeous musical,
1165
01:03:25,810 --> 01:03:29,158
celestial yet earthy, just pure,
1166
01:03:29,192 --> 01:03:31,712
something so pure,
it just made me cry.
1167
01:03:31,747 --> 01:03:33,887
I just remember just listening
to that voice,
1168
01:03:33,921 --> 01:03:36,579
it was just singing
that stuff...
1169
01:03:39,444 --> 01:03:40,514
Touching.
1170
01:03:41,481 --> 01:03:42,758
~ Oh, sisters,
Deaf to pity's name ~
1171
01:03:42,792 --> 01:03:44,484
~ For shame! ~
1172
01:03:44,518 --> 01:03:46,624
~ It's true that he has
Gone astray ~
1173
01:03:46,658 --> 01:03:48,384
~ But pray ~
1174
01:03:48,419 --> 01:03:50,766
~ Is that a reason
Good and true ~
1175
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:51,939
~ Why you ~
1176
01:03:51,974 --> 01:03:58,498
~ Should all be deaf
To pity's name? ~
1177
01:03:58,877 --> 01:04:01,052
Gilbert and Sullivan? Really?
1178
01:04:01,086 --> 01:04:04,400
A rock star who has the guts
to go out there
1179
01:04:04,435 --> 01:04:07,748
and do that kind of
musical comedy.
1180
01:04:07,783 --> 01:04:08,887
She just didn't care.
1181
01:04:08,922 --> 01:04:12,097
To her it was like
a mountain to climb.
1182
01:04:27,837 --> 01:04:30,461
Linda can bring
herself to sing anything.
1183
01:04:30,495 --> 01:04:34,119
She could sing opera, she could
do anything with her voice.
1184
01:04:34,154 --> 01:04:35,845
I couldn't do all that.
1185
01:04:48,686 --> 01:04:50,550
Kevin Kline and I
were both nominated
1186
01:04:50,584 --> 01:04:52,103
for Tony Awards for that show.
1187
01:04:52,655 --> 01:04:54,070
Kevin deserved it
more than I did.
1188
01:04:54,105 --> 01:04:56,003
All I did was walk
around and sing.
1189
01:05:02,941 --> 01:05:05,116
My mom died during
Pirates of Penzance.
1190
01:05:07,049 --> 01:05:09,016
I wasn't with her when she died.
1191
01:05:09,051 --> 01:05:11,536
And I just couldn't quite
get it through my head
1192
01:05:11,571 --> 01:05:12,813
that she was gone
out of the world
1193
01:05:12,848 --> 01:05:14,746
and I was never going
to see her again.
1194
01:05:17,508 --> 01:05:19,751
She'd had all these records --
Louis Armstrong,
1195
01:05:19,786 --> 01:05:21,581
Ella Fitzgerald,
1196
01:05:21,615 --> 01:05:23,686
Billie Holiday, Peggy Lee.
1197
01:05:23,721 --> 01:05:26,448
And I thought I'd like to try
to sing some of those songs.
1198
01:05:26,724 --> 01:05:31,832
~ Only the lonely ~
1199
01:05:31,867 --> 01:05:35,042
When we lived together almost
every evening the last record
1200
01:05:35,077 --> 01:05:37,010
we listened to was
a Frank Sinatra album
1201
01:05:37,044 --> 01:05:39,115
called Songs for
Only the Lonely.
1202
01:05:39,150 --> 01:05:41,497
With Nelson Riddle arranging.
1203
01:05:43,948 --> 01:05:47,848
Constantly people were telling
Linda you can't do this.
1204
01:05:48,193 --> 01:05:49,574
I'm guilty.
1205
01:05:49,609 --> 01:05:52,266
When she was going to do
the Nelson Riddle album
1206
01:05:52,301 --> 01:05:54,752
I didn't think it was
a good idea,
1207
01:05:54,786 --> 01:05:56,650
not because she
couldn't do it
1208
01:05:56,685 --> 01:06:00,205
but because we had this run
going with rock and roll records
1209
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:01,759
and country rock.
1210
01:06:03,243 --> 01:06:05,038
I said I'd like to find somebody
that can write arrangements
1211
01:06:05,072 --> 01:06:06,488
like Nelson Riddle.
1212
01:06:06,867 --> 01:06:09,629
They said why don't you
just ask Nelson Riddle?
1213
01:06:10,250 --> 01:06:12,701
Well I didn't know
he was still alive.
1214
01:06:12,977 --> 01:06:15,117
You were the only person
that I knew that could do
1215
01:06:15,151 --> 01:06:16,877
orchestrations like this.
1216
01:06:16,912 --> 01:06:18,189
I didn't know where you were,
1217
01:06:18,223 --> 01:06:20,122
whether you'd be interested
in working with me.
1218
01:06:20,156 --> 01:06:22,055
Whether you'd ever
heard of me or not.
1219
01:06:22,089 --> 01:06:23,781
And as soon as I started
learning the songs
1220
01:06:23,815 --> 01:06:25,161
they just got inside me.
1221
01:06:25,196 --> 01:06:26,784
I wanted to record them
and I wanted to do it
1222
01:06:26,818 --> 01:06:28,717
worse than anything
I've ever wanted to do.
1223
01:06:28,751 --> 01:06:30,097
I remember your phrase for this.
1224
01:06:30,132 --> 01:06:33,825
You said these are
songs I cannot not do.
1225
01:06:33,860 --> 01:06:35,206
I can't not do them.
1226
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:37,967
At some point
it's like falling in love.
1227
01:06:38,002 --> 01:06:39,624
Choice doesn't
even enter into it.
1228
01:06:39,659 --> 01:06:42,731
~ What's new? ~
1229
01:06:43,628 --> 01:06:46,942
~ How is the world ~
1230
01:06:48,150 --> 01:06:50,842
~ Treating you? ~
1231
01:06:51,947 --> 01:06:54,156
I would think oh my God,
how can I sing these songs?
1232
01:06:54,190 --> 01:06:56,676
Ella Fitzgerald has sung them,
Billie Holiday has sing them,
1233
01:06:56,710 --> 01:06:58,609
Frank Sinatra has sung them.
1234
01:07:00,403 --> 01:07:03,234
~ Handsome as ever ~
1235
01:07:04,753 --> 01:07:06,582
She studied all of those records
1236
01:07:06,617 --> 01:07:09,240
and she studied every available
version she could find
1237
01:07:09,274 --> 01:07:10,931
of each one of those songs.
1238
01:07:10,966 --> 01:07:12,899
She is a real student.
1239
01:07:12,933 --> 01:07:15,626
~ What's new? ~
1240
01:07:15,971 --> 01:07:19,871
~ How did that romance ~
1241
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:22,322
~ Come through? ~
1242
01:07:22,805 --> 01:07:25,774
She told she wanted to get
those songs out of the elevator.
1243
01:07:25,808 --> 01:07:28,639
She meant that that's the
only place you heard them.
1244
01:07:28,673 --> 01:07:31,849
And she wanted to point out that
that's not where they belong.
1245
01:07:31,883 --> 01:07:33,989
They were some of the
best songs ever written.
1246
01:07:34,023 --> 01:07:38,096
~ Why am I asking
what's new? ~
1247
01:07:39,442 --> 01:07:42,687
I went to her house and
tried to talk her out of it but
1248
01:07:42,722 --> 01:07:45,863
as soon as she told me Nelson
Riddle was going to do it,
1249
01:07:45,897 --> 01:07:49,073
I said well I'd like
to come to the record session.
1250
01:07:58,703 --> 01:08:00,429
When my sister was
in high school she got to go
1251
01:08:00,463 --> 01:08:02,845
to her senior prom and she got
to wear these strapless dresses
1252
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:04,226
with a lot of tool
1253
01:08:04,260 --> 01:08:06,400
and I always wanted
one of those dresses.
1254
01:08:08,333 --> 01:08:10,232
By the time I got to high school
1255
01:08:10,266 --> 01:08:12,683
styles had changed
and I never got to have one.
1256
01:08:12,717 --> 01:08:14,201
So I said I'm going to put
a show together,
1257
01:08:14,236 --> 01:08:16,238
we're all going to get to wear
those dresses.
1258
01:08:16,894 --> 01:08:20,345
~ So dream ~
1259
01:08:21,105 --> 01:08:24,626
~ Dream ~
1260
01:08:25,419 --> 01:08:28,077
~ Dream ~
1261
01:08:34,014 --> 01:08:35,429
This is a real treat tonight.
1262
01:08:35,464 --> 01:08:37,397
We have three marvelous singers
on the show
1263
01:08:37,431 --> 01:08:40,262
and would you know how many
times they have been nominated
1264
01:08:40,296 --> 01:08:41,712
for Grammys between them?
1265
01:08:41,746 --> 01:08:43,334
Forty-five times in total.
1266
01:08:47,787 --> 01:08:49,754
The albums they've all sold
are in the multi-millions
1267
01:08:49,789 --> 01:08:51,963
and I guess it's taken
the ladies about ten years
1268
01:08:51,998 --> 01:08:54,138
to get this together where they
wanted to work together
1269
01:08:54,172 --> 01:08:58,211
and made an album called Trio
and it was well worth the time.
1270
01:08:58,245 --> 01:09:00,454
The album is described as
old-timey but it's sensational.
1271
01:09:00,489 --> 01:09:02,318
Would you welcome
Linda Ronstadt, Dolly Parton,
1272
01:09:02,353 --> 01:09:03,457
Emmylou Harris?
1273
01:09:11,534 --> 01:09:13,019
I had met Dolly.
1274
01:09:13,053 --> 01:09:14,883
I saw her singing
on the Grand Ole Opry
1275
01:09:14,917 --> 01:09:16,194
and she was a wonder to behold.
1276
01:09:16,229 --> 01:09:19,025
What you have in front of you is
one of the most beautiful girls
1277
01:09:19,059 --> 01:09:20,198
you've ever seen.
1278
01:09:20,233 --> 01:09:21,924
She's just gorgeous.
1279
01:09:22,925 --> 01:09:24,168
When she opened her mouth
and started to sing
1280
01:09:24,202 --> 01:09:25,307
I fell on the floor.
1281
01:09:25,341 --> 01:09:27,205
She's an amazing singer.
1282
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:29,138
~ Jolene, Jolene ~
1283
01:09:29,173 --> 01:09:32,072
~ Jolene, Jolene ~
1284
01:09:32,486 --> 01:09:37,250
~ I'm begging of you
Please don't take my man ~
1285
01:09:38,872 --> 01:09:40,322
I told
Emmylou about her
1286
01:09:40,356 --> 01:09:42,255
and then Emmy
met her somehow.
1287
01:09:42,289 --> 01:09:44,050
~ Jolene ~
1288
01:09:44,084 --> 01:09:47,916
When I made my first trip to
Nashville the powers that be
1289
01:09:47,950 --> 01:09:50,815
set up a meeting with Dolly
and she was making a record
1290
01:09:50,850 --> 01:09:54,060
in her studio
and it was like unbelievable.
1291
01:09:54,094 --> 01:09:56,925
It was better than
any Disneyland visit.
1292
01:09:56,959 --> 01:09:59,237
~ Eyes of emerald green ~
1293
01:09:59,272 --> 01:10:01,239
They kind of found
my music somewhere
1294
01:10:01,274 --> 01:10:03,552
and kind of wanted
to meet me
1295
01:10:03,586 --> 01:10:05,865
and that's kind of how
we all started.
1296
01:10:06,866 --> 01:10:08,902
Emmy called me up and she's like
Dolly Parton's at my house,
1297
01:10:08,937 --> 01:10:10,524
you have to come over.
1298
01:10:10,559 --> 01:10:12,319
I was living like
40 minutes away
1299
01:10:12,354 --> 01:10:14,045
and I got there in 20 minutes.
1300
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:17,290
She came over and there we were,
the three of us
1301
01:10:17,324 --> 01:10:19,775
and we were there
with our idol Dolly.
1302
01:10:19,810 --> 01:10:22,053
They had this big old house,
almost like a bunch of hippies
1303
01:10:22,088 --> 01:10:24,538
just living up there,
different people and musicians.
1304
01:10:24,573 --> 01:10:26,161
They had different bedrooms.
1305
01:10:26,195 --> 01:10:28,128
It was just a
free-for-all kind of house.
1306
01:10:28,163 --> 01:10:29,958
A dream for musicians.
1307
01:10:29,992 --> 01:10:33,478
And somebody said
well sing something.
1308
01:10:33,513 --> 01:10:37,413
~ Bury me beneath the willow ~
1309
01:10:37,448 --> 01:10:40,416
~ Under the whipping willow
Tree ~
1310
01:10:40,451 --> 01:10:45,076
~ So he may know
Where I am sleeping ~
1311
01:10:45,111 --> 01:10:48,252
~ And perhaps
He'll weep for me ~
1312
01:10:48,286 --> 01:10:49,563
So I started singing that
1313
01:10:49,598 --> 01:10:51,255
and then they started saying
sing that again.
1314
01:10:51,289 --> 01:10:52,877
I go "Oh, bury me..."
1315
01:10:52,912 --> 01:10:54,534
And here come
all these harmonies
1316
01:10:54,568 --> 01:10:57,192
and oh it was just
chilling, chilling, chilling.
1317
01:10:57,226 --> 01:10:59,332
~ Beneath the willow ~
1318
01:10:59,366 --> 01:11:03,301
~ Under the weeping willow
Tree ~
1319
01:11:03,336 --> 01:11:08,548
~ Well he may know
Where I am sleeping ~
1320
01:11:08,582 --> 01:11:12,448
~ And perhaps
He'll weep for me ~
1321
01:11:12,483 --> 01:11:14,450
When we heard our voices
1322
01:11:14,485 --> 01:11:18,006
it was like injecting some kind
of serum into your veins.
1323
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,146
It was like a high
like you've never felt.
1324
01:11:20,180 --> 01:11:22,113
We sang first in a living room
1325
01:11:22,148 --> 01:11:23,563
and said well
this sounds really good.
1326
01:11:23,597 --> 01:11:25,047
It was special,
it was different.
1327
01:11:25,082 --> 01:11:30,156
It was like a sound of
sisters, musical sisters.
1328
01:11:30,190 --> 01:11:35,402
~ Won't you bury me
Beneath the willow ~
1329
01:11:35,437 --> 01:11:39,337
~ Under the weeping willow
Tree ~
1330
01:11:39,372 --> 01:11:41,926
~ Where he may know where... ~
1331
01:11:41,961 --> 01:11:45,171
At that moment we thought
we have to do a record.
1332
01:11:47,242 --> 01:11:50,590
~ To know know know him ~
1333
01:11:50,901 --> 01:11:55,491
~ Is to love love love him ~
1334
01:11:55,526 --> 01:11:59,633
~ Just to see him smile ~
1335
01:11:59,668 --> 01:12:03,845
~ Makes my life worthwhile ~
1336
01:12:05,053 --> 01:12:06,986
We learned so much
about singing from each other
1337
01:12:07,020 --> 01:12:08,953
because you get to sort of
be them for a second
1338
01:12:08,988 --> 01:12:10,437
when you're shadowing
them in harmony.
1339
01:12:10,472 --> 01:12:13,682
It's like getting on an eagle
and getting to see the world
1340
01:12:13,716 --> 01:12:16,029
through that eagle's experience.
1341
01:12:16,064 --> 01:12:17,686
I get to sing through
Dolly's voice
1342
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:20,413
or sing through Emmy's voice
when I sing real close harmony.
1343
01:12:20,447 --> 01:12:22,104
~ Why ~
1344
01:12:23,243 --> 01:12:27,316
~ Can't he see me? ~
1345
01:12:28,317 --> 01:12:32,080
~ How I... ~
1346
01:12:32,114 --> 01:12:34,979
The only big disagreements would
be are we going to use autoharp
1347
01:12:35,014 --> 01:12:37,119
or dulcimer on this song.
1348
01:12:37,154 --> 01:12:38,707
-
- Yeah.
1349
01:12:38,741 --> 01:12:40,433
Sometimes we would disagree
about who would sing lead
1350
01:12:40,467 --> 01:12:42,193
because Emmy and I
always wanted Dolly
1351
01:12:42,228 --> 01:12:43,574
to sing lead on everything.
1352
01:12:43,608 --> 01:12:45,610
Oh, well Dolly will
sound great on that.
1353
01:12:45,645 --> 01:12:47,923
You sing lead!
No, you sing lead!
1354
01:12:49,994 --> 01:12:52,065
Linda is such a perfectionist.
1355
01:12:52,100 --> 01:12:53,584
She's a pain in the ass
sometimes
1356
01:12:53,618 --> 01:12:55,966
because she is such
a perfectionist.
1357
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,278
Because she will not have it
unless it's perfect.
1358
01:12:58,313 --> 01:13:01,074
She used to make me sing those
harmonies over and over
1359
01:13:01,109 --> 01:13:04,319
and I said I'm going to sing it
the same way no matter what.
1360
01:13:04,353 --> 01:13:06,493
No, you're not! You're going
to hit this one note.
1361
01:13:06,528 --> 01:13:09,324
And see I don't know how to,
all those intricate harmonies
1362
01:13:09,358 --> 01:13:10,981
like Emmylou and Linda do.
1363
01:13:11,015 --> 01:13:13,500
I just sing that raw stuff
from feeling
1364
01:13:13,535 --> 01:13:16,779
and it ain't always proper
but it sounds good.
1365
01:13:16,814 --> 01:13:20,507
~ Yes just to know ~
1366
01:13:20,542 --> 01:13:24,615
~ Is to love love love him ~
1367
01:13:24,649 --> 01:13:29,275
~ And I do ~
1368
01:13:31,553 --> 01:13:34,452
Linda, you've sing
just about all types of music.
1369
01:13:34,487 --> 01:13:37,766
Light opera; you've been on
Broadway, rock and roll, pop.
1370
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,044
What's your next project
going to be?
1371
01:13:40,079 --> 01:13:42,253
I'm going to do an album
of Mexican music,
1372
01:13:42,288 --> 01:13:43,254
of traditional Mexican music.
1373
01:13:43,289 --> 01:13:45,981
I'm kind of a
traditional Mexican myself.
1374
01:13:46,016 --> 01:13:48,225
You know, I grew up about 40
minutes from the Mexican border,
1375
01:13:48,259 --> 01:13:51,262
my family are Mexican,
and that is my roots.
1376
01:13:51,297 --> 01:13:54,127
That's what I came from
and I have been dying to do
1377
01:13:54,162 --> 01:13:55,577
this record
for years and years
1378
01:13:55,611 --> 01:13:57,165
and I'm getting around
to it this year.
1379
01:13:57,199 --> 01:13:59,305
Boy, I'm going o do it.
1380
01:14:06,519 --> 01:14:09,418
Our neighbor that lived behind
us in the garage apartment
1381
01:14:09,453 --> 01:14:12,145
was Harry Dean Stanton,
great character actor
1382
01:14:12,180 --> 01:14:15,079
and a great singer
of Mexican folk songs.
1383
01:14:15,528 --> 01:14:18,117
We would hear him up until
the wee hours singing
1384
01:14:18,151 --> 01:14:21,085
these Mexican folk songs,
these canciones.
1385
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:24,709
And Linda knew all those songs.
1386
01:14:24,744 --> 01:14:27,643
I don't think people
thought of her as...
1387
01:14:27,678 --> 01:14:30,129
as Mexican.
1388
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:33,166
It certainly never came up.
I never heard it.
1389
01:14:33,201 --> 01:14:36,204
I mean, the name
Ronstadt is not Hernandez.
1390
01:14:36,238 --> 01:14:38,068
Ronstadt is a
German-sounding name.
1391
01:14:38,102 --> 01:14:42,072
No, she's certainly
from Mexican heritage
1392
01:14:42,106 --> 01:14:44,419
but it wasn't the most
apparent thing.
1393
01:14:44,453 --> 01:14:46,455
I want to see
where you put your D.
1394
01:14:46,490 --> 01:14:49,079
Say ganador.
1395
01:14:49,113 --> 01:14:51,253
Ga...
1396
01:14:51,288 --> 01:14:54,222
The phrasing, Ganador.
1397
01:14:54,256 --> 01:14:56,431
Ganador.
1398
01:14:56,465 --> 01:14:58,295
Ganador.
1399
01:14:58,329 --> 01:15:00,331
- Dor?
- Mm-hm. Mm-hm.
1400
01:15:00,366 --> 01:15:03,231
Is it on the roof of your mouth,
the back of your teeth or...
1401
01:15:03,748 --> 01:15:06,855
When he asked me if I would sing
a harmony on his record
1402
01:15:06,889 --> 01:15:08,684
I was completely delighted
1403
01:15:08,719 --> 01:15:12,102
because you can only learn
by doing. I can't...
1404
01:15:12,550 --> 01:15:14,345
there isn't a book you can get,
you know,
1405
01:15:14,380 --> 01:15:17,348
how do you learn how to be
a singer in Spanish?
1406
01:15:17,383 --> 01:15:19,523
It's always been a dream
of mine to make an album
1407
01:15:19,557 --> 01:15:22,491
of these Mexican songs
that I learned from my father.
1408
01:15:29,774 --> 01:15:31,500
My father had a beautiful
baritone voice.
1409
01:15:31,535 --> 01:15:33,882
He sounded like
a cross between Pedro Infante
1410
01:15:33,916 --> 01:15:35,746
and Frank Sinatra.
1411
01:15:36,816 --> 01:15:39,543
Always if there was a dinner
party or something he'd get the
1412
01:15:39,577 --> 01:15:43,167
guitar out and he'd just sing
and I always would fall asleep
1413
01:15:43,202 --> 01:15:46,412
in somebody's lap listening to
my dad sing some beautiful song.
1414
01:15:48,655 --> 01:15:51,796
We always as a family,
we always sang in Spanish.
1415
01:15:51,831 --> 01:15:54,868
Even though I didn't understand
much of what I was singing,
1416
01:15:54,903 --> 01:15:56,456
it was something
that I learned to do.
1417
01:15:56,491 --> 01:15:58,286
It's kind of like lip reading,
you know.
1418
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:01,530
I used to kind of chameleon in
harmony along with my father.
1419
01:16:07,260 --> 01:16:10,539
To learn to sing that style as
a grown-up professional singer,
1420
01:16:10,574 --> 01:16:12,162
that took some doing.
1421
01:16:40,328 --> 01:16:42,675
I always forget the beginning
where I go through the ending
1422
01:16:42,709 --> 01:16:44,263
and it makes it so hard.
1423
01:16:44,297 --> 01:16:45,919
Oh yeah.
What was it, this way?
1424
01:16:45,954 --> 01:16:47,473
Is that how you do it?
The Latin way.
1425
01:16:47,507 --> 01:16:48,853
Okay, I got it.
1426
01:16:50,476 --> 01:16:52,409
Okay, I'm learning
all these new things.
1427
01:16:59,554 --> 01:17:02,557
My dad invited me to go to the
Tucson Mariachi Conference
1428
01:17:02,591 --> 01:17:05,525
and that way I got to meet
the Mariachi Vargas.
1429
01:17:08,563 --> 01:17:11,635
Those good bands like the Cobre
or the Camperos
1430
01:17:11,669 --> 01:17:13,671
or the Mariachi Vargas, you're
going to go to a symphony
1431
01:17:13,706 --> 01:17:15,466
and you're not going to find
better musicians.
1432
01:17:15,501 --> 01:17:17,434
They're all virtuoso players.
1433
01:17:22,991 --> 01:17:24,889
I picked a couple of songs.
1434
01:17:25,821 --> 01:17:27,927
The band said these songs
are very traditional
1435
01:17:27,961 --> 01:17:29,894
and they're very difficult
to do.
1436
01:17:30,723 --> 01:17:32,552
I said well, they're
the only songs I know
1437
01:17:32,587 --> 01:17:34,485
so we better learn them.
1438
01:17:41,699 --> 01:17:43,494
I went to the president
of my record company,
1439
01:17:43,529 --> 01:17:45,910
who's a man who genuinely
likes music, and I said look,
1440
01:17:45,945 --> 01:17:47,705
I made all these records
for you, they saw this.
1441
01:17:47,740 --> 01:17:49,362
I'm going to do this
just for me
1442
01:17:49,397 --> 01:17:50,294
and this might be
self-indulgent.
1443
01:17:50,329 --> 01:17:51,709
If it sells two copies
I don't care
1444
01:17:51,744 --> 01:17:54,229
but if I can't record this music
I'm going to die.
1445
01:17:55,368 --> 01:17:57,543
I don't understand any Spanish.
1446
01:17:57,577 --> 01:18:01,547
I didn't understand how popular
those songs were
1447
01:18:01,581 --> 01:18:06,276
but this is a lady who wanted
to do it her way
1448
01:18:06,310 --> 01:18:08,070
and who was going to say no?
1449
01:18:40,862 --> 01:18:43,727
Canciones de mi Padre,
it's the largest selling
1450
01:18:43,761 --> 01:18:46,661
Spanish language album
in the history of the industry.
1451
01:18:46,695 --> 01:18:50,458
That's the whole Linda Ronstadt
story right there in a nutshell.
1452
01:18:50,492 --> 01:18:53,633
Linda deciding she wants
to do something,
1453
01:18:53,668 --> 01:18:56,360
the record company telling
her she can't.
1454
01:18:56,395 --> 01:18:58,466
She goes ahead
and does it anyway
1455
01:18:58,500 --> 01:19:02,953
and they jump on board
as the thing starts to take off.
1456
01:19:04,541 --> 01:19:06,922
Toda la Familia
would come and they loved it
1457
01:19:06,957 --> 01:19:09,546
because they were here
from Mexico.
1458
01:19:09,580 --> 01:19:12,618
Even though their kids
had grown up here
1459
01:19:12,652 --> 01:19:14,689
and become American citizens,
1460
01:19:14,723 --> 01:19:17,761
who is this girl singing songs
so beautifully.
1461
01:19:26,942 --> 01:19:28,737
The fact that she
went on and did that
1462
01:19:28,772 --> 01:19:30,946
and did it in such a big way.
1463
01:19:31,153 --> 01:19:32,914
It was a brave thing to do.
1464
01:19:32,948 --> 01:19:34,674
Many people would
have been terrified
1465
01:19:34,709 --> 01:19:36,504
I'll mess up my career.
1466
01:19:37,159 --> 01:19:41,923
But obviously she had
purpose, personal decision.
1467
01:19:42,889 --> 01:19:44,028
It's good.
1468
01:20:21,445 --> 01:20:24,414
To have that traditionalism
going along on the bus with me
1469
01:20:24,448 --> 01:20:26,692
from town to town where
I'd only sung pop music,
1470
01:20:26,726 --> 01:20:29,522
to take that part of the dirt
with me, you know,
1471
01:20:29,557 --> 01:20:32,525
the part of the soil of the land
where I came from to Cleveland
1472
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:34,838
and Cincinnati and New York,
that was a thrill.
1473
01:20:34,872 --> 01:20:36,909
You should have seen
Central Park with, you know,
1474
01:20:36,943 --> 01:20:39,636
close to a million people
in it when the mariachi
1475
01:20:39,670 --> 01:20:42,121
got up on stage with their
big hats, the place fell out.
1476
01:20:42,155 --> 01:20:44,606
They went nuts. There
was such a thing of pride
1477
01:20:44,641 --> 01:20:46,677
that went from the stage
to the audience.
1478
01:20:46,712 --> 01:20:48,023
It was just great.
1479
01:20:49,508 --> 01:20:52,821
This song was written
by me and my father
1480
01:20:52,856 --> 01:20:55,376
and it's called
Lo Siento Mi Vida.
1481
01:21:01,209 --> 01:21:03,453
My dad died when he was 84.
1482
01:21:04,937 --> 01:21:08,078
There was a kind of a peace
that happened when he died.
1483
01:21:10,460 --> 01:21:12,634
In the three of four days before
he died he was reading to us
1484
01:21:12,669 --> 01:21:15,879
passages from
Gabriel Garcia Marquez's book
1485
01:21:15,913 --> 01:21:19,538
Love in the Time of Cholera
and it was just a great sharing.
1486
01:21:22,195 --> 01:21:24,646
It was a different experience
being with my father
1487
01:21:24,681 --> 01:21:26,924
when he died
than it was with my mother.
1488
01:21:28,167 --> 01:21:31,101
I knew I was going to miss him
but I accepted it better.
1489
01:21:42,871 --> 01:21:45,460
He had what I would
describe as a beautiful death.
1490
01:21:49,844 --> 01:21:51,984
I'd seen her on
TV and I thought she was great
1491
01:21:52,018 --> 01:21:55,539
but when she came to
New Orleans she was just
1492
01:21:55,574 --> 01:21:59,509
so down to earth
and girl next door thing.
1493
01:21:59,888 --> 01:22:01,856
And just humble.
1494
01:22:02,891 --> 01:22:05,169
She was just a sweet,
humble person.
1495
01:22:06,516 --> 01:22:09,657
I'd been in New
Orleans for the World's Fair
1496
01:22:09,691 --> 01:22:11,521
and somebody said well
the Neville Brothers are playing
1497
01:22:11,555 --> 01:22:13,557
at some club down
in the Quarter. We should go.
1498
01:22:13,592 --> 01:22:15,766
We going to get
serious, serious right now.
1499
01:22:15,801 --> 01:22:18,838
I'm going to turn you on to
our brother Aaron Neville.
1500
01:22:18,873 --> 01:22:20,081
Aaron Neville
was on stage singing
1501
01:22:20,115 --> 01:22:22,014
this beautiful song Arianne.
1502
01:22:22,048 --> 01:22:23,602
~ Arianne is April morning ~
1503
01:22:26,812 --> 01:22:30,850
~ That comes rippling
Through my window ~
1504
01:22:31,057 --> 01:22:34,854
~ She's the smell
of coffee brewing ~
1505
01:22:35,165 --> 01:22:39,031
~ On a quiet, rainy Sunday ~
1506
01:22:39,238 --> 01:22:40,998
Somebody told me
she was in the audience
1507
01:22:41,033 --> 01:22:43,069
so I called her up on stage.
1508
01:22:43,104 --> 01:22:44,968
Sing some doo wop.
1509
01:22:45,624 --> 01:22:47,073
Usually I'll never do
anything like that
1510
01:22:47,108 --> 01:22:49,282
because I like to rehearse
everything first.
1511
01:22:49,317 --> 01:22:51,664
But I wasn't going to say no
to Aaron Neville.
1512
01:22:51,871 --> 01:22:54,253
After that I asked
for an autograph.
1513
01:22:54,287 --> 01:22:56,911
She said To Aaron, Love,
I'll sing with you anytime,
1514
01:22:56,945 --> 01:22:59,810
any place, anywhere in any key.
1515
01:23:06,196 --> 01:23:08,267
~ Look at this face ~
1516
01:23:08,301 --> 01:23:09,786
The next morning
I woke up
1517
01:23:09,820 --> 01:23:11,304
and my first thought
was boy I like singing
1518
01:23:11,339 --> 01:23:12,996
with Aaron Neville.
That sounded pretty good.
1519
01:23:13,030 --> 01:23:14,825
And then I thought, you idiot,
everybody sounds good
1520
01:23:14,860 --> 01:23:16,862
when they sing
with Aaron Neville.
1521
01:23:17,932 --> 01:23:20,797
I said we got to make a record
together and he was up for it.
1522
01:23:20,831 --> 01:23:22,833
~ I don't know much ~
1523
01:23:24,145 --> 01:23:27,286
~ But I know I love you ~
1524
01:23:30,807 --> 01:23:35,915
~ And that may be
All I need to know ~
1525
01:23:37,296 --> 01:23:40,126
There were all kind
of rumors going on...
1526
01:23:41,196 --> 01:23:44,268
They say oh Linda and Aaron
got married or whatever.
1527
01:23:44,959 --> 01:23:46,581
Just crazy stuff.
1528
01:23:46,616 --> 01:23:49,066
~ Look at these dreams ~
1529
01:23:49,619 --> 01:23:53,864
~ So beaten
And so battered ~
1530
01:23:53,899 --> 01:23:55,970
~ I don't know much ~
1531
01:23:56,004 --> 01:23:58,110
The producer told us
if you don't make it look real
1532
01:23:58,144 --> 01:24:01,631
ain't no sense doing it.
So we had to make it look real.
1533
01:24:04,081 --> 01:24:08,292
~ That may be
All there is ~
1534
01:24:09,017 --> 01:24:12,158
~ To know ~
1535
01:24:14,782 --> 01:24:19,131
At the studio I said I'll
see you at the Grammys.
1536
01:24:24,067 --> 01:24:26,621
I had a speech but
1537
01:24:27,933 --> 01:24:31,177
Too nervous. I just want to
say thank you to Linda first.
1538
01:24:32,247 --> 01:24:34,042
And my wife Joelle.
1539
01:24:36,458 --> 01:24:38,288
Aaron and I won two
Grammys for that record.
1540
01:24:40,255 --> 01:24:42,741
But as time went on there was
something really wrong
1541
01:24:42,775 --> 01:24:44,190
with my voice.
1542
01:24:46,399 --> 01:24:50,162
I just lost a lot of
different colors in my voice.
1543
01:24:51,094 --> 01:24:52,751
There's a lot of things
you do in singing.
1544
01:24:52,785 --> 01:24:56,306
You turn your voice to different
planes to make different sounds
1545
01:24:56,340 --> 01:24:58,135
and I couldn't do any of that.
1546
01:25:01,345 --> 01:25:03,900
Turned out I had
Parkinson's disease.
1547
01:25:06,178 --> 01:25:08,214
Singing is really complex
1548
01:25:08,249 --> 01:25:11,735
and I was made most aware
of it by having it vanish.
1549
01:25:12,874 --> 01:25:16,326
I can still sing in my mind
but I can't do it physically.
1550
01:25:18,708 --> 01:25:22,677
I sang my last concert
on November 7th, 2009.
1551
01:25:23,091 --> 01:25:24,783
It was a Mexican show.
1552
01:25:26,336 --> 01:25:30,305
Must have been
quite a reckoning
1553
01:25:30,340 --> 01:25:32,963
to have this marvelous
instrument
1554
01:25:32,998 --> 01:25:34,862
that could always
hold the notes, hit the notes
1555
01:25:34,896 --> 01:25:36,484
and shape the notes,
1556
01:25:36,518 --> 01:25:39,245
could no longer hold the notes
without quiver.
1557
01:25:41,420 --> 01:25:43,802
But there's a lot of good
records with
1558
01:25:43,836 --> 01:25:45,493
her magnificent voice on them
1559
01:25:45,527 --> 01:25:48,289
and I hear her laughing
in my head all the time.
1560
01:25:48,323 --> 01:25:50,222
I hear that cackle all the time.
1561
01:25:51,050 --> 01:25:52,983
I'm sort of never without her.
1562
01:25:55,814 --> 01:25:59,956
I could imagine not being
able to sing for Linda is awful.
1563
01:26:00,370 --> 01:26:06,065
But I also know nobody who could
handle that kind of change
1564
01:26:06,100 --> 01:26:09,724
or adjustment in a more
logical and thoughtful
1565
01:26:09,759 --> 01:26:12,071
and intelligent way than Linda.
1566
01:26:13,866 --> 01:26:16,075
I don't think she
misses going on the road.
1567
01:26:16,351 --> 01:26:19,078
I don't think she
misses making records.
1568
01:26:20,873 --> 01:26:23,911
I think she misses
singing with her friends
1569
01:26:23,945 --> 01:26:26,914
and singing in the living room
with her family.
1570
01:26:29,054 --> 01:26:30,952
There's just no one
on the planet
1571
01:26:30,987 --> 01:26:35,129
that ever had or ever will
have a voice like Linda's.
1572
01:26:47,141 --> 01:26:49,005
You know,
I'm grateful for the time I had.
1573
01:26:49,039 --> 01:26:52,733
I got to live a lot of my dreams
and I feel lucky about it.
1574
01:26:55,563 --> 01:26:57,945
Another person with Parkinson's
said that life after death
1575
01:26:57,979 --> 01:26:59,325
isn't the question.
1576
01:27:01,362 --> 01:27:03,226
It's life before death.
1577
01:27:05,953 --> 01:27:07,402
So how are you going to do it?
1578
01:27:08,576 --> 01:27:10,198
How are you going to live?
1579
01:28:06,668 --> 01:28:08,222
Couldn't find a part there.
1580
01:28:08,498 --> 01:28:09,982
Start right there.
1581
01:28:18,025 --> 01:28:20,165
I don't even have that note
in my speaking range anymore.
1582
01:28:21,891 --> 01:28:25,239
Before you said
you couldn't sing anymore.
1583
01:28:25,273 --> 01:28:26,930
This isn't really singing.
1584
01:28:27,448 --> 01:28:30,347
Believe me,
it's a few notes.
1585
01:28:30,382 --> 01:28:33,143
- But it's not really singing.
- Are you enjoying it?
1586
01:28:33,178 --> 01:28:34,973
Well, I would enjoy it much more
if I could sing
1587
01:28:35,007 --> 01:28:36,940
but I can't let them
sing this without me.
1588
01:28:37,699 --> 01:28:39,425
It's a family thing.
1589
01:28:40,047 --> 01:28:42,325
Shall we?
You guys ready?
1590
01:29:59,989 --> 01:30:01,991
- Do we get to eat?
- Yes.
1591
01:30:02,025 --> 01:30:03,509
Good.
1592
01:30:03,544 --> 01:30:06,961
~ I've been cheated ~
1593
01:30:07,306 --> 01:30:10,516
~ Been mistreated ~
1594
01:30:11,034 --> 01:30:16,350
~ When will I love be loved? ~
1595
01:30:18,283 --> 01:30:21,320
~ I've been put down ~
1596
01:30:21,734 --> 01:30:24,737
~ I've been pushed around ~
1597
01:30:25,255 --> 01:30:30,191
~ When will I be loved? ~
1598
01:30:32,331 --> 01:30:35,438
~ When I find a new man ~
1599
01:30:35,783 --> 01:30:38,337
~ That I want for mine ~
1600
01:30:39,304 --> 01:30:42,445
~ Always breaks
My heart in two ~
1601
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:47,277
~ It happens every time ~
1602
01:30:48,347 --> 01:30:51,454
~ I've been made blue ~
1603
01:30:51,730 --> 01:30:55,009
~ I've been lied to ~
1604
01:30:55,389 --> 01:31:00,497
~ When will I be loved? ~
1605
01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:19,723
~ When I find a new man ~
1606
01:31:20,241 --> 01:31:23,279
~ That I want for mine ~
1607
01:31:23,624 --> 01:31:26,765
~ He always breaks
My heart in two ~
1608
01:31:26,799 --> 01:31:31,597
~ It happens every time ~
1609
01:31:32,702 --> 01:31:35,705
~ I've been cheated ~
1610
01:31:36,292 --> 01:31:39,329
~ Been mistreated ~
1611
01:31:39,743 --> 01:31:44,645
~ When will I be loved? ~
1612
01:31:47,199 --> 01:31:51,686
~ When will I be loved? ~
1613
01:31:52,756 --> 01:31:54,137
~ Tell me ~
1614
01:31:54,172 --> 01:31:57,485
~ When will I ~
1615
01:31:57,761 --> 01:31:59,556
~ Be ~
1616
01:32:00,523 --> 01:32:05,424
~ Loved? ~
1617
01:32:20,922 --> 01:32:23,649
~ Where have you gone? ~
1618
01:32:23,684 --> 01:32:26,411
~ My darling one ~
1619
01:32:26,790 --> 01:32:29,379
~ Are you on your own? ~
1620
01:32:29,897 --> 01:32:32,382
~ Are you having fun? ~
1621
01:32:32,727 --> 01:32:35,661
~ Is there someone to hold ~
1622
01:32:35,868 --> 01:32:38,630
~ When you need it bad? ~
1623
01:32:38,871 --> 01:32:41,736
~ Is it controlled? ~
1624
01:32:42,151 --> 01:32:47,190
~ Like the love we had? ~
1625
01:32:48,295 --> 01:32:50,573
~ Does the day go by ~
1626
01:32:51,263 --> 01:32:53,576
~ Like a memory? ~
1627
01:32:54,301 --> 01:32:57,131
~ Do you ever try ~
1628
01:32:57,166 --> 01:32:59,789
~ To remember me? ~
1629
01:33:00,376 --> 01:33:03,344
~ In an automobile ~
1630
01:33:03,379 --> 01:33:05,864
~ Or a crowded bar ~
1631
01:33:06,416 --> 01:33:08,901
~ Well I hope
You're all right ~
1632
01:33:09,488 --> 01:33:14,286
~ Wherever you are ~
1633
01:33:15,218 --> 01:33:19,705
~ If you're still within
The sound of my voice ~
1634
01:33:20,430 --> 01:33:23,882
~ Over some radio ~
1635
01:33:24,296 --> 01:33:27,334
~ I just want you to know ~
1636
01:33:27,368 --> 01:33:31,683
~ You were always
My only choice ~
1637
01:33:33,478 --> 01:33:36,136
~ And wherever you go ~
1638
01:33:36,412 --> 01:33:39,449
~ That I still love you so ~
1639
01:33:39,484 --> 01:33:44,351
~ If you're still within
The sound of my voice ~
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