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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,007 --> 00:00:09,376 [music playing] 2 00:00:28,828 --> 00:00:30,096 I just met this woman that scared 3 00:00:30,196 --> 00:00:30,964 the living shit out of me. 4 00:00:31,064 --> 00:00:32,032 OK, so listen. 5 00:00:32,132 --> 00:00:33,867 I don't know if she's possessed or what. 6 00:00:33,967 --> 00:00:36,369 [music playing] 7 00:01:20,947 --> 00:01:24,617 My highs were always extreme. 8 00:01:24,717 --> 00:01:28,021 I remember this one time where I hopped in my car. 9 00:01:28,121 --> 00:01:32,092 I'm driving from Los Angeles back to Toronto. 10 00:01:32,192 --> 00:01:35,528 Day two, day three of no sleep and I 11 00:01:35,628 --> 00:01:37,630 feel that euphoria kick in again. 12 00:01:37,730 --> 00:01:39,632 I'm feeling fantastic. 13 00:01:39,732 --> 00:01:43,403 I'm driving through Zion National Park. 14 00:01:43,503 --> 00:01:46,106 I hit a deer at 70 miles per hour. 15 00:01:50,944 --> 00:01:54,747 I totaled my car, barely made it through. 16 00:01:54,848 --> 00:01:57,684 Barely made it through, it was really scary. 17 00:01:57,784 --> 00:01:59,786 There I am, and the car was still working, 18 00:01:59,886 --> 00:02:03,923 drove home the whole way but still feeling this euphoria. 19 00:02:06,759 --> 00:02:10,763 My life wasn't always so out of control. 20 00:02:14,167 --> 00:02:23,076 My name is Ross McKenzie Jr. When I was young, 21 00:02:23,176 --> 00:02:24,377 my future looked bright. 22 00:02:29,949 --> 00:02:32,552 Nice save, Ross! 23 00:02:32,652 --> 00:02:41,261 Star athlete, class valedictorian, lots of friends, 24 00:02:41,361 --> 00:02:43,763 and a picture-perfect family. 25 00:02:46,666 --> 00:02:48,134 Then I was robbed. 26 00:02:57,710 --> 00:03:00,980 At 21, I had a psychotic break that got me arrested 27 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,316 and institutionalized. 28 00:03:03,416 --> 00:03:08,288 I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder and put on lithium. 29 00:03:08,388 --> 00:03:10,390 My life changed the minute I was slapped 30 00:03:10,490 --> 00:03:11,958 with that label 20 years ago. 31 00:03:15,762 --> 00:03:18,097 When I was hospitalized, I was told by psychiatrists 32 00:03:18,198 --> 00:03:21,201 and by doctors, you're going to have 33 00:03:21,301 --> 00:03:24,103 to take this medication for the rest of your life. 34 00:03:24,204 --> 00:03:26,206 And probably the worst thing they 35 00:03:26,306 --> 00:03:28,508 said that was the hardest thing to hear at the time was, 36 00:03:28,608 --> 00:03:31,711 don't expect to do anything special with your life. 37 00:03:31,811 --> 00:03:33,613 You're not going to really amount to anything 38 00:03:33,713 --> 00:03:34,447 because you're going to have to live 39 00:03:34,547 --> 00:03:35,949 a very simple, quiet existence. 40 00:03:39,185 --> 00:03:43,990 It's a very painful experience to go through. 41 00:03:44,090 --> 00:03:48,294 When he was medicated, he was certainly not anything 42 00:03:48,394 --> 00:03:50,230 like the son I had known. 43 00:03:50,330 --> 00:03:51,564 It was very frightening. 44 00:03:57,537 --> 00:03:59,672 For those of you that aren't aware, 45 00:03:59,772 --> 00:04:02,141 lithium is-- it's an element found in the Earth, 46 00:04:02,242 --> 00:04:04,911 but it's a very toxic element. 47 00:04:05,011 --> 00:04:08,781 Side effects of lethargy and weakness and brain 48 00:04:08,881 --> 00:04:10,917 fog, and along with the fact that it 49 00:04:11,017 --> 00:04:14,187 starts to just wreak havoc on all your organs 50 00:04:14,287 --> 00:04:17,657 and starts to affect your thyroid and your kidneys 51 00:04:17,757 --> 00:04:18,291 and your liver. 52 00:04:22,495 --> 00:04:25,098 I didn't see any emotion. 53 00:04:25,198 --> 00:04:29,068 I mean, he sat in a chair and didn't move for months. 54 00:04:29,168 --> 00:04:32,305 It was horrible to watch. 55 00:04:32,405 --> 00:04:36,175 He just appeared that this was more numbness. 56 00:04:36,276 --> 00:04:38,878 And all I could think at the time was, 57 00:04:38,978 --> 00:04:41,981 get your butt off that couch or that chair. 58 00:04:42,081 --> 00:04:43,416 But I knew that he couldn't do it. 59 00:04:48,254 --> 00:04:50,790 Was I bipolar? 60 00:04:50,890 --> 00:04:53,293 I don't know. 61 00:04:53,393 --> 00:04:55,561 What I do know is that I felt isolated and different 62 00:04:55,662 --> 00:04:58,898 from those around me. 63 00:04:58,998 --> 00:05:02,235 The drugs were hurting me more than helping. 64 00:05:02,335 --> 00:05:04,637 Something didn't feel right. 65 00:05:04,737 --> 00:05:06,639 I questioned my diagnosis and the lithium 66 00:05:06,739 --> 00:05:09,709 that sucked the life out of me. 67 00:05:09,809 --> 00:05:11,511 I was determined to get my life back. 68 00:05:25,692 --> 00:05:27,160 Yes, so basically what I'm looking for 69 00:05:27,260 --> 00:05:28,861 is just something where I'm going to be setting it up 70 00:05:28,961 --> 00:05:30,830 on a tripod, probably going to be measuring out 71 00:05:30,930 --> 00:05:31,964 the distance at the same time. 72 00:05:32,065 --> 00:05:33,700 But it's really basic what I'm using it for. 73 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,069 OK, yeah, that should be pretty simple to solve. 74 00:05:36,169 --> 00:05:38,604 Full of drugs and full of questions, 75 00:05:38,705 --> 00:05:40,206 I decided to record my journey as I 76 00:05:40,306 --> 00:05:44,410 try to heal myself naturally and become normal, 77 00:05:44,510 --> 00:05:45,345 whatever normal is. 78 00:05:51,217 --> 00:05:54,387 In February, 2010, I went to an experimental clinic 79 00:05:54,487 --> 00:05:57,724 in Costa Rica to safely detox off of lithium. 80 00:05:57,824 --> 00:05:59,359 I knew from experience that to do so 81 00:05:59,459 --> 00:06:00,993 without the proper medical support 82 00:06:01,094 --> 00:06:05,164 could be dangerous, even fatal. 83 00:06:05,264 --> 00:06:08,601 So in the last five years, I attempted twice 84 00:06:08,701 --> 00:06:10,336 to go off of lithium. 85 00:06:10,436 --> 00:06:13,706 And what I learned is that I did it 86 00:06:13,806 --> 00:06:16,342 under not safe and not proper conditions, 87 00:06:16,442 --> 00:06:17,910 and both of those years had really 88 00:06:18,010 --> 00:06:22,515 kind of disastrous consequences, extreme lows, two, 89 00:06:22,615 --> 00:06:24,650 three months of debilitating depression 90 00:06:24,751 --> 00:06:26,719 where I couldn't pick myself up off the floor. 91 00:06:31,924 --> 00:06:34,560 That was hard to watch him. 92 00:06:34,660 --> 00:06:52,145 Sadness, the-- a lot of crying, no interest in doing things 93 00:06:52,245 --> 00:06:54,914 Here is the chemistry lab. 94 00:06:55,014 --> 00:06:57,750 Get all cleaned up, all that lithium that was gunking up, 95 00:06:57,850 --> 00:06:59,018 trying to come out of my skin. 96 00:07:02,655 --> 00:07:05,324 And at the end of the month, I will be off lithium and drug 97 00:07:05,425 --> 00:07:06,726 free. 98 00:07:06,826 --> 00:07:10,396 It's February 4, so I have been here for a couple days now. 99 00:07:10,496 --> 00:07:12,532 You can see I've just got little-- underneath here, 100 00:07:12,632 --> 00:07:15,535 I've got these little electrodes right at the top of my temples. 101 00:07:15,635 --> 00:07:19,439 And again, just stimulating currents into the brain. 102 00:07:19,539 --> 00:07:21,107 Just to let you know that I'm definitely 103 00:07:21,207 --> 00:07:24,410 starting to experience detox with lithium, 104 00:07:24,510 --> 00:07:28,581 and manifesting as a screaming headache. 105 00:07:28,681 --> 00:07:30,082 It's kind of interesting in the body 106 00:07:30,183 --> 00:07:33,319 as you start to release this stuff, the toxicity, 107 00:07:33,419 --> 00:07:38,257 the body starts screaming and actually really wants it. 108 00:07:38,357 --> 00:07:39,725 Hello again. 109 00:07:39,826 --> 00:07:41,694 The last few days have been excruciating. 110 00:07:41,794 --> 00:07:42,728 I couldn't wander around. 111 00:07:42,829 --> 00:07:44,230 I couldn't sleep, body aching, just 112 00:07:44,330 --> 00:07:46,032 started vomiting this stuff up everywhere, 113 00:07:46,132 --> 00:07:47,633 my body rejecting it. 114 00:07:47,733 --> 00:07:49,402 I literally felt like I was going to die. 115 00:07:49,502 --> 00:07:52,738 The end of this week to go and then two more full weeks. 116 00:07:52,839 --> 00:07:59,145 I can't wait to see my mom back home 117 00:07:59,245 --> 00:08:02,615 and my friends and my family. 118 00:08:02,715 --> 00:08:04,984 Tonight is the last night that I will ever 119 00:08:05,084 --> 00:08:06,986 be taking lithium again for the rest of my life. 120 00:08:07,086 --> 00:08:08,354 I've been told, I've been assured 121 00:08:08,454 --> 00:08:10,556 that once it's released and detoxed 122 00:08:10,656 --> 00:08:13,993 and then the repair has taken place that my brain function is 123 00:08:14,093 --> 00:08:15,595 going to come back full force. 124 00:08:18,564 --> 00:08:18,965 Ah. 125 00:08:25,671 --> 00:08:28,708 OK, oh God, start again. 126 00:08:31,244 --> 00:08:33,346 I can't quite imagine what that's going to feel like, 127 00:08:33,446 --> 00:08:35,014 but I know it's going to feel fantastic. 128 00:08:39,385 --> 00:08:42,421 So his journey to get off the medication 129 00:08:42,522 --> 00:08:45,925 has been a long one and many tough times, 130 00:08:46,025 --> 00:08:48,494 and he's spent a lot of time with us during this. 131 00:08:52,498 --> 00:08:55,735 And I've sort of blanked on a lot of that 132 00:08:55,835 --> 00:08:57,303 because it went on for quite awhile 133 00:08:57,403 --> 00:09:01,374 that I just blanked on everything around that. 134 00:09:05,177 --> 00:09:06,579 Go, go away. 135 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:07,747 I want to do this. 136 00:09:11,684 --> 00:09:13,319 It's been about a year and a half, 137 00:09:13,419 --> 00:09:16,155 just over a year and a half that I've been off of lithium. 138 00:09:16,255 --> 00:09:19,959 And it's been amazing to feel myself getting my life back. 139 00:09:24,263 --> 00:09:26,799 This new found feeling makes me wonder what other chemicals are 140 00:09:26,899 --> 00:09:30,269 coursing through my body. 141 00:09:30,369 --> 00:09:31,871 The next stop on my journey leads me 142 00:09:31,971 --> 00:09:35,575 to Dr. John Dempster, a naturopath who 143 00:09:35,675 --> 00:09:39,845 treats all kinds of conditions from cancer to diabetes. 144 00:09:39,946 --> 00:09:41,280 It's his work with metal toxicity 145 00:09:41,380 --> 00:09:42,315 that caught my attention. 146 00:09:46,118 --> 00:09:47,019 I'm Dr. Dempster. 147 00:09:47,119 --> 00:09:48,020 Come on in. 148 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,690 Excellent. 149 00:09:50,790 --> 00:09:52,058 So Ross, some of the things we're 150 00:09:52,158 --> 00:09:54,427 going to be doing with you is we're going to be assessing 151 00:09:54,527 --> 00:09:56,596 has there been any residual effect of any toxicity. 152 00:09:56,696 --> 00:09:58,998 We're going to be measuring some specific toxins with you 153 00:09:59,098 --> 00:10:00,433 like metals. 154 00:10:00,533 --> 00:10:03,235 We will be measuring some neurotransmitters with you, 155 00:10:03,336 --> 00:10:07,106 dopamine, glutamate, serotonin, the chemicals that 156 00:10:07,206 --> 00:10:09,875 can aggravate anxiety, depression 157 00:10:09,976 --> 00:10:11,410 if they're out of balance. 158 00:10:11,510 --> 00:10:13,479 But one of the first core things that I need to do 159 00:10:13,579 --> 00:10:15,147 is actually do some blood work with you. 160 00:10:15,247 --> 00:10:18,117 I need to make sure that your liver, your kidneys, everything 161 00:10:18,217 --> 00:10:21,621 is working and processing fine, because we want to make sure 162 00:10:21,721 --> 00:10:24,123 that you're capable of handling some of these therapies 163 00:10:24,223 --> 00:10:25,458 that we're going to do with you. 164 00:10:28,527 --> 00:10:30,096 I know you've been exposed to lithium 165 00:10:30,196 --> 00:10:31,597 and you've been on it for some time. 166 00:10:31,697 --> 00:10:33,599 And I know you're off it now, which is great. 167 00:10:33,699 --> 00:10:35,201 But we need to check to see if there's 168 00:10:35,301 --> 00:10:38,070 been any residual effect of being on lithium, 169 00:10:38,170 --> 00:10:39,672 and we need to start to understand, 170 00:10:39,772 --> 00:10:41,207 has there been any damage done to any 171 00:10:41,307 --> 00:10:43,275 of your neurological tissue. 172 00:10:43,376 --> 00:10:45,478 So we're seeing a little bit of adrenal fatigue here. 173 00:10:45,578 --> 00:10:47,546 What's happening is your pupil should constrict, 174 00:10:47,647 --> 00:10:48,781 and it should hold. 175 00:10:48,881 --> 00:10:50,216 Yours is actually doing this. 176 00:10:50,316 --> 00:10:53,419 It's actually enlargening when the light hits the eye, 177 00:10:53,519 --> 00:10:55,154 and that's not what we should be seeing. 178 00:10:55,254 --> 00:10:56,422 So what is adrenal fatigue? 179 00:10:56,522 --> 00:10:57,657 What's that? 180 00:10:57,757 --> 00:10:59,759 Well, it means there's been a stress on your body. 181 00:11:15,908 --> 00:11:17,343 As I started coming out of the fog, 182 00:11:17,443 --> 00:11:18,744 it was clear I had more questions. 183 00:11:22,048 --> 00:11:24,383 What are some of these psychotropic drugs doing to us? 184 00:11:27,353 --> 00:11:29,355 I drive to Austin, Texas, for the answer. 185 00:11:32,892 --> 00:11:35,895 I reunite with my friend Gwen Olsen. 186 00:11:35,995 --> 00:11:39,265 She's the one who told me about the clinic in Costa Rica. 187 00:11:39,365 --> 00:11:41,867 Gwen was the top sales rep for some of the biggest pharma 188 00:11:41,967 --> 00:11:43,169 companies. 189 00:11:43,269 --> 00:11:45,237 Now she's their top critic. 190 00:11:57,717 --> 00:11:59,151 Oh my gosh, you're here. 191 00:11:59,251 --> 00:12:00,119 Hi. 192 00:12:00,219 --> 00:12:01,754 How are you doing? 193 00:12:01,854 --> 00:12:03,456 So good to see you. 194 00:12:03,556 --> 00:12:05,925 It's good to see you too. 195 00:12:06,025 --> 00:12:08,094 Oh my gosh, you look so good. 196 00:12:08,194 --> 00:12:09,495 Aww, thanks, you too. 197 00:12:09,595 --> 00:12:12,064 I cannot believe how healthy you are since the last time I saw 198 00:12:12,164 --> 00:12:13,399 you. 199 00:12:13,499 --> 00:12:13,966 I know, it's a little bit different since the last time 200 00:12:14,066 --> 00:12:14,734 we caught up. 201 00:12:14,834 --> 00:12:15,601 Just a tad. 202 00:12:15,701 --> 00:12:16,869 I know. 203 00:12:16,969 --> 00:12:19,605 No minor meltdowns, I take it, since I last saw you. 204 00:12:19,705 --> 00:12:21,974 No, that was a bit of an interesting ride. 205 00:12:22,074 --> 00:12:24,710 Before detox, I was on lithium for 16 years. 206 00:12:24,810 --> 00:12:26,212 And I know that was a long time. 207 00:12:26,312 --> 00:12:28,447 Every time I bring that up, especially people, they're 208 00:12:28,547 --> 00:12:29,415 like, wow. 209 00:12:29,515 --> 00:12:30,816 That's a long, long time. 210 00:12:30,916 --> 00:12:33,285 16 years is a very long time, and I understand your concern 211 00:12:33,385 --> 00:12:34,220 about that. 212 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,889 But lithium is a natural salt, OK. 213 00:12:36,989 --> 00:12:39,258 It's highly toxic, as you know. 214 00:12:39,358 --> 00:12:42,728 But it is something natural, whereas the other drugs 215 00:12:42,828 --> 00:12:44,296 are synthetics. 216 00:12:44,396 --> 00:12:47,233 And you never generally find a psychiatric patient 217 00:12:47,333 --> 00:12:48,667 that's just on one or two drugs. 218 00:12:48,768 --> 00:12:51,971 They're normally on a cocktail of various drugs. 219 00:12:52,071 --> 00:12:54,607 And that's where I see the biggest problem 220 00:12:54,707 --> 00:12:56,208 with those individuals who have been 221 00:12:56,308 --> 00:12:58,778 on long-term psychiatric treatment 222 00:12:58,878 --> 00:13:01,247 with a number of different drugs. 223 00:13:01,347 --> 00:13:05,518 They seem to have the greatest difficulty in weaning off 224 00:13:05,618 --> 00:13:07,920 of the drugs because of those drugs are actually 225 00:13:08,020 --> 00:13:09,622 designed to be addicting. 226 00:13:09,722 --> 00:13:10,856 Right. 227 00:13:10,956 --> 00:13:14,994 So those drugs are much more difficult to get off of, 228 00:13:15,094 --> 00:13:19,198 and I think that that's pretty much a part of the agenda 229 00:13:19,298 --> 00:13:21,667 that you've been on a drug for 15 years, 230 00:13:21,767 --> 00:13:23,602 and you get off of it in two weeks' time, 231 00:13:23,702 --> 00:13:26,071 you're going to go into an absolute tailspin. 232 00:13:26,172 --> 00:13:27,239 And they know that. 233 00:13:27,339 --> 00:13:29,074 But then when you come back two weeks later 234 00:13:29,175 --> 00:13:30,309 and you're having a meltdown, you're 235 00:13:30,409 --> 00:13:31,977 going to be told that, well, we're sorry, 236 00:13:32,077 --> 00:13:33,779 but you're going to have to be on these drugs for the rest 237 00:13:33,879 --> 00:13:36,348 of your life because you have a brain chemistry imbalance, 238 00:13:36,448 --> 00:13:38,284 and this is what we have to do to treat it. 239 00:13:38,384 --> 00:13:39,652 Right. 240 00:13:39,752 --> 00:13:42,721 So that's the way that they keep everyone captive, everyone 241 00:13:42,822 --> 00:13:45,024 prisoner in the system and on the drugs. 242 00:13:48,127 --> 00:13:50,863 So now not only do you have depression. 243 00:13:50,963 --> 00:13:53,632 Now you're so severely depressed that you can't get out of bed. 244 00:13:53,732 --> 00:13:54,433 You can't function. 245 00:13:54,533 --> 00:13:55,367 You can't work. 246 00:13:55,467 --> 00:13:57,503 Or not only did you have anxiety, 247 00:13:57,603 --> 00:14:00,039 but now you're having panic attacks because 248 00:14:00,139 --> 00:14:01,574 of the withdrawal from the drugs. 249 00:14:01,674 --> 00:14:04,176 And people do not identify that as withdrawal. 250 00:14:04,276 --> 00:14:06,579 What they think is that they're having an exacerbation-- 251 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:07,680 Exacerbation of their disease or whatever. 252 00:14:07,780 --> 00:14:09,982 -- of their own disease symptoms-- exactly. 253 00:14:10,082 --> 00:14:11,917 And then they freak out, and they go back 254 00:14:12,017 --> 00:14:16,589 on the drugs for the rest of their lives. 255 00:14:16,689 --> 00:14:18,858 This is a disease. 256 00:14:18,958 --> 00:14:22,428 It's a spiritual disease as much as it is anything else. 257 00:14:22,528 --> 00:14:25,564 And you need to figure out what the root cause of the problem 258 00:14:25,664 --> 00:14:26,498 is. 259 00:14:26,599 --> 00:14:29,001 There are so many different things 260 00:14:29,101 --> 00:14:31,704 that can lead to psychiatric symptoms. 261 00:14:31,804 --> 00:14:35,207 And people simply need to do their homework. 262 00:14:35,307 --> 00:14:36,609 So that's what I would advise you 263 00:14:36,709 --> 00:14:38,310 to do is get to the root of it all. 264 00:14:38,410 --> 00:14:40,913 And once you have, then you'll know all the answers. 265 00:14:43,682 --> 00:14:49,255 So it is 1:00 AM November 24, and you're probably 266 00:14:49,355 --> 00:14:52,491 wondering what on earth is in my mouth. 267 00:14:52,591 --> 00:14:54,927 I thought it was good to actually check in and see 268 00:14:55,027 --> 00:14:59,064 that this is part of reality, because I still 269 00:14:59,164 --> 00:15:00,966 can have these waves of anxiety. 270 00:15:01,066 --> 00:15:05,304 It's this excess of energy in my body. 271 00:15:05,404 --> 00:15:08,641 And where I've put that sometimes is actually 272 00:15:08,741 --> 00:15:12,645 it's gone to a behavior that's been actually quite painful 273 00:15:12,745 --> 00:15:17,016 and caused damage to myself, like chewing my lip. 274 00:15:17,116 --> 00:15:18,984 One of my goals through this process 275 00:15:19,084 --> 00:15:21,754 is to actually rid myself of this behavior 276 00:15:21,854 --> 00:15:23,255 so that when I feel this energy come 277 00:15:23,355 --> 00:15:25,925 on that know how to move it through the body 278 00:15:26,025 --> 00:15:30,663 without actually going to a behavior that has-- yeah, 279 00:15:30,763 --> 00:15:37,336 it's been a self-mutilating obsessive compulsive behavior. 280 00:15:37,436 --> 00:15:38,637 Hey Ross, good to see you. 281 00:15:38,737 --> 00:15:40,839 We gave you a call because we have 282 00:15:40,940 --> 00:15:43,409 found some things we're going to talk about, OK? 283 00:15:43,509 --> 00:15:45,778 We did two tests with you, and we 284 00:15:45,878 --> 00:15:48,647 started by looking for recent exposure 285 00:15:48,747 --> 00:15:50,716 to mercury in your blood. 286 00:15:50,816 --> 00:15:52,117 Have a look at this. 287 00:15:52,217 --> 00:15:55,220 Two big metals that are coming out on top of the other ones, 288 00:15:55,321 --> 00:15:56,388 and that's lead and mercury. 289 00:15:56,488 --> 00:15:57,523 OK. 290 00:15:57,623 --> 00:15:59,758 These are neurotoxins, and these are serious. 291 00:15:59,858 --> 00:16:03,862 And what these can do, these can actually disrupt how we feel, 292 00:16:03,963 --> 00:16:05,464 how we think. 293 00:16:05,564 --> 00:16:08,667 These are not only disrupting brain chemistry, 294 00:16:08,767 --> 00:16:10,202 but they have the potential to create 295 00:16:10,302 --> 00:16:13,539 serious illness such as cancer, heart disease. 296 00:16:13,639 --> 00:16:16,809 These can be the triggers into drop into a psychotic episode. 297 00:16:16,909 --> 00:16:19,812 These are environmental toxins that we are not born with 298 00:16:19,912 --> 00:16:21,714 or were not supposed to be born with, 299 00:16:21,814 --> 00:16:24,583 and that's something that we're going to try and bring these 300 00:16:24,683 --> 00:16:25,718 down with you. 301 00:16:25,818 --> 00:16:27,453 And it's going to take a number of treatments. 302 00:16:27,553 --> 00:16:30,022 This may actually take between 30 and 40 IV treatments 303 00:16:30,122 --> 00:16:30,956 to bring these down. 304 00:16:34,593 --> 00:16:36,628 What happens is metals, if they come into our body, 305 00:16:36,729 --> 00:16:39,531 it's a very hard process for us to get them out. 306 00:16:39,631 --> 00:16:41,633 If they're stored, we actually have to in there, 307 00:16:41,734 --> 00:16:43,435 and we have to grab them and drag them out. 308 00:16:43,535 --> 00:16:46,672 And that is actually a process called chelation. 309 00:16:46,772 --> 00:16:49,375 Chelate means to grab. 310 00:16:49,475 --> 00:16:50,876 Have you had some food today? 311 00:16:50,976 --> 00:16:51,844 Yep. 312 00:16:51,944 --> 00:16:53,846 Lots of water? 313 00:16:53,946 --> 00:16:54,847 Yeah, some. 314 00:16:57,916 --> 00:16:58,784 Good man. 315 00:17:04,390 --> 00:17:06,959 So we're not-- we don't have your chelator in the bag yet. 316 00:17:07,059 --> 00:17:10,629 I'm going to go add that in right now. 317 00:17:10,729 --> 00:17:13,098 That whole-- that drains in a half an hour. 318 00:17:13,198 --> 00:17:14,066 Yeah. 319 00:17:14,166 --> 00:17:14,566 That's fast. 320 00:17:47,199 --> 00:17:48,434 Pay attention, Ross. 321 00:17:58,510 --> 00:17:59,978 I learned pretty early on and when 322 00:18:00,079 --> 00:18:02,948 I was young to keep my mouth shut. 323 00:18:03,048 --> 00:18:06,752 When I would go to speak up, it wasn't accepted very well, 324 00:18:06,852 --> 00:18:08,754 and I would get shut down. 325 00:18:08,854 --> 00:18:12,891 Keeping my mouth shut doesn't work so well for me anymore, 326 00:18:12,991 --> 00:18:16,028 doesn't work at all, actually. 327 00:18:16,128 --> 00:18:19,064 By not speaking up, I think that's contributed 328 00:18:19,164 --> 00:18:23,035 to a lot of anxiety and a lot of depression. 329 00:18:23,135 --> 00:18:26,205 I think that's what's caused an enormous amount of my symptoms. 330 00:18:26,305 --> 00:18:28,273 I actually had moments where I was so emotional 331 00:18:28,373 --> 00:18:31,343 today where I actually I was buying into, oh my god, 332 00:18:31,443 --> 00:18:33,078 am I not well again at all? 333 00:18:33,178 --> 00:18:35,147 And I know that's bullshit too. 334 00:18:35,247 --> 00:18:37,049 Somehow we've gotten to this point in time 335 00:18:37,149 --> 00:18:39,818 where emotions are not cool, and if you have emotions, 336 00:18:39,918 --> 00:18:41,487 that somehow that needs to be diagnosed, 337 00:18:41,587 --> 00:18:43,789 and you need to be medicated with it. 338 00:18:43,889 --> 00:18:45,824 Let's just get to the root cause of these issues. 339 00:18:45,924 --> 00:18:47,860 Let's find out so people that buy into this, 340 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,428 I have this disease. 341 00:18:49,528 --> 00:18:50,863 I'm told I'm going to have to kind 342 00:18:50,963 --> 00:18:53,332 of deal with these symptoms and manage 343 00:18:53,432 --> 00:18:54,933 these symptoms for the rest of my life, 344 00:18:55,033 --> 00:18:57,603 but no room for transformation, no room for healing. 345 00:18:57,703 --> 00:19:00,205 And actually, I found myself getting really pissed off 346 00:19:00,305 --> 00:19:01,473 about that. 347 00:19:01,573 --> 00:19:03,475 Where does the personality end and the disease begin? 348 00:19:08,714 --> 00:19:12,050 Life getting you down? 349 00:19:12,151 --> 00:19:14,453 Do you ever feel like nothing makes you smile? 350 00:19:18,223 --> 00:19:18,991 Don't feel motivated? 351 00:19:23,162 --> 00:19:25,030 Just can't find anything good on TV? 352 00:19:30,369 --> 00:19:31,203 Addictarin can help. 353 00:19:36,542 --> 00:19:38,744 Addictarin will add bounce to your step. 354 00:19:38,844 --> 00:19:40,078 Yahoo! 355 00:19:40,179 --> 00:19:42,581 Turn that frown upside down. 356 00:19:46,118 --> 00:19:47,653 See the world through new eyes. 357 00:19:51,723 --> 00:19:58,130 Addictarin, it's your turn to be happy. 358 00:19:58,230 --> 00:20:00,098 Side effects may include trouble concentrating, 359 00:20:00,199 --> 00:20:01,900 memory loss, anxiety, panic attacks, fainting, seizures, 360 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,802 diarrhea, constipation, dry mouth, drooling, night sweats, 361 00:20:03,902 --> 00:20:06,238 dry heaves, hair loss, insomnia, unusual risk taking behavior, 362 00:20:06,338 --> 00:20:08,207 decreased inhibitions, no fear of danger, weight gain, 363 00:20:08,307 --> 00:20:10,108 weight loss, hallucinations, unusual thoughts, death, 364 00:20:10,209 --> 00:20:10,676 and halitosis. 365 00:20:13,278 --> 00:20:15,180 I thought it was appropriate, given 366 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,616 that we're doing a film on mental illness 367 00:20:17,716 --> 00:20:21,320 and mental health that I would dress up as the Mad Hatter. 368 00:20:21,420 --> 00:20:25,157 I'm about to go out with my lovely lady, 369 00:20:25,257 --> 00:20:28,927 and we're about to go out and hit a little Halloween 370 00:20:29,027 --> 00:20:30,128 festivities. 371 00:20:30,229 --> 00:20:40,205 That is that for October 31, 2011, Halloween. 372 00:20:40,305 --> 00:20:45,177 Ross went to the lithium clinic in San Jose, Costa Rica, 373 00:20:45,277 --> 00:20:48,780 which is where I lived for 12 years. 374 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,483 I showed up to sell some of my products, 375 00:20:51,583 --> 00:20:54,319 and he was at breakfast. 376 00:20:54,419 --> 00:21:00,659 I made handmade soap, cream, mud masks. 377 00:21:00,759 --> 00:21:02,527 There was Ross and a friend of his, 378 00:21:02,628 --> 00:21:06,198 and we sat down and had breakfast together. 379 00:21:06,298 --> 00:21:08,934 You're like, uh, yeah, you don't need 380 00:21:09,034 --> 00:21:13,805 to bring your whole computer and hardware in to deal with that. 381 00:21:13,905 --> 00:21:17,042 I think he's one of the kindest, most loving people I've ever 382 00:21:17,142 --> 00:21:20,012 met in my life. 383 00:21:20,112 --> 00:21:21,713 One of his major journeys in life 384 00:21:21,813 --> 00:21:25,117 is to make everybody around him comfortable and happy. 385 00:21:28,353 --> 00:21:30,756 So I think we're fortunate in the fact 386 00:21:30,856 --> 00:21:37,963 that in our relationship, we've both done a lot of work, 387 00:21:38,063 --> 00:21:40,132 whether that's psychological work, whether it's 388 00:21:40,232 --> 00:21:44,069 interpersonal work, whether it's spiritual work. 389 00:21:44,169 --> 00:21:47,072 And so we're very open with each other. 390 00:21:47,172 --> 00:21:50,275 And then they're just like, [inaudible]. 391 00:21:50,375 --> 00:21:54,646 We all know somebody who's going through some very deep pain 392 00:21:54,746 --> 00:21:57,215 and who unfortunately has turned that pain 393 00:21:57,316 --> 00:21:59,851 into some sort of action that got labeled. 394 00:22:02,587 --> 00:22:05,957 And I think Ross now sees it more as his duty 395 00:22:06,058 --> 00:22:08,527 to say, hey, there's more avenues 396 00:22:08,627 --> 00:22:09,961 to talk about that pain. 397 00:22:13,765 --> 00:22:17,002 Letting go of some of the symptoms 398 00:22:17,102 --> 00:22:23,475 that come along with having 18 years of suppressing 399 00:22:23,575 --> 00:22:27,346 regular emotions, I think that's very struggling. 400 00:22:30,849 --> 00:22:34,586 I've definitely seen him depressed. 401 00:22:34,686 --> 00:22:38,056 I've definitely seen him go through not wanting 402 00:22:38,156 --> 00:22:39,725 to be around people and just disappear. 403 00:22:42,327 --> 00:22:46,465 It took me a long time to realize that Ross actually 404 00:22:46,565 --> 00:22:49,835 believed that he had things he needed to let go of, 405 00:22:49,935 --> 00:22:51,703 and he needed help letting go of them. 406 00:23:07,986 --> 00:23:12,124 Parmenio's a gentleman who lives in Cartagena. 407 00:23:12,224 --> 00:23:15,894 He's a naturopathic doctor by trade, 408 00:23:15,994 --> 00:23:23,702 and he has an ability to contact spirits and work 409 00:23:23,802 --> 00:23:25,270 with them to do psychic surgery. 410 00:23:28,807 --> 00:23:31,443 He's worked with my dad, my mom. 411 00:23:36,181 --> 00:23:38,583 So [inaudible], I was just going to ask you too, 412 00:23:38,683 --> 00:23:41,453 you know this journey I'm on of self-healing and I've been 413 00:23:41,553 --> 00:23:44,122 medicated with lithium for quite a long time, 414 00:23:44,222 --> 00:23:46,758 and so I've just wondered if there's-- you get any sense, 415 00:23:46,858 --> 00:23:49,060 like do you think when it comes to that he may be able to help 416 00:23:49,161 --> 00:23:50,061 me out? 417 00:23:50,162 --> 00:23:51,463 I can not tell you what to do, but I 418 00:23:51,563 --> 00:23:54,499 think that it would be good for you to try something like this 419 00:23:54,599 --> 00:23:57,536 because I think he has helped a lot of people. 420 00:23:57,636 --> 00:23:59,871 And also, he was born with this gift 421 00:23:59,971 --> 00:24:04,042 that he is able to talk to spirits. 422 00:24:04,142 --> 00:24:06,178 And I don't know if the word is channeling, 423 00:24:06,278 --> 00:24:08,613 but maybe that's what he does. 424 00:24:08,713 --> 00:24:11,716 I mean, I have seen miracles happening. 425 00:24:11,817 --> 00:24:15,187 So for you in your case, he probably 426 00:24:15,287 --> 00:24:18,690 will do a detox in the spiritual world. 427 00:24:34,873 --> 00:24:37,342 It's important for me not to be afraid of the anxiety. 428 00:24:40,679 --> 00:24:43,782 The freak outs are real, and the freak outs 429 00:24:43,882 --> 00:24:49,754 are not because I'm sick but because I'm human. 430 00:24:55,427 --> 00:24:56,661 I get to feel upset. 431 00:24:56,761 --> 00:24:58,096 I get to feel sadness. 432 00:24:58,196 --> 00:25:00,065 I get to feel anger. 433 00:25:00,165 --> 00:25:02,601 I really like the fact that I get to feel all of my emotions. 434 00:25:09,641 --> 00:25:11,343 It's a very new experience for me, 435 00:25:11,443 --> 00:25:14,613 because when I was on lithium, I was completely 436 00:25:14,713 --> 00:25:19,618 deadened and flatlined where I didn't have access to that, 437 00:25:19,718 --> 00:25:23,788 not allowing or creating the ability to heal. 438 00:25:26,825 --> 00:25:29,928 My father died before I started this journey. 439 00:25:30,028 --> 00:25:31,496 He never got to see me off the drugs. 440 00:25:34,666 --> 00:25:37,702 Parmenio, can you explain what we'll 441 00:25:37,802 --> 00:25:39,604 be doing today in today's treatment? 442 00:25:39,704 --> 00:25:40,572 [speaking spanish] 443 00:25:52,684 --> 00:25:54,953 I was wondering if, today if you were working my father's 444 00:25:55,053 --> 00:25:57,155 spirit for the treatment. 445 00:25:57,255 --> 00:25:57,923 [speaking spanish] 446 00:26:15,073 --> 00:26:15,941 OK, muy bueno. 447 00:26:24,482 --> 00:26:26,885 [music playing] 448 00:26:53,878 --> 00:26:54,779 [speaking spanish] 449 00:26:54,879 --> 00:27:58,777 [music playing] 450 00:27:58,877 --> 00:27:59,511 [speaking spanish] 451 00:27:59,611 --> 00:28:00,145 Lithium? 452 00:28:00,245 --> 00:28:00,779 [speaking spanish] 453 00:28:16,961 --> 00:28:20,932 It's January 25, 2012, and I had my first session with Parmenio 454 00:28:21,032 --> 00:28:22,767 today. 455 00:28:22,867 --> 00:28:25,170 I noticed when the session first started, 456 00:28:25,270 --> 00:28:26,538 I could feel my father's presence 457 00:28:26,638 --> 00:28:29,374 and felt myself getting emotional. 458 00:28:29,474 --> 00:28:32,844 Just as my father was getting ready to pass on 459 00:28:32,944 --> 00:28:34,579 and those last couple months of his life, 460 00:28:34,679 --> 00:28:36,481 and one of the last conversations that we had 461 00:28:36,581 --> 00:28:38,483 was me really asking him. 462 00:28:38,583 --> 00:28:41,486 I said, I need your help when you cross over, 463 00:28:41,586 --> 00:28:43,254 and whatever you can do in the other realms 464 00:28:43,354 --> 00:28:47,025 and the other dimensions to help me sort this out. 465 00:28:47,125 --> 00:28:49,394 But I think what was the most amazing part was just 466 00:28:49,494 --> 00:28:52,530 how Parmenio, at the end, I just, I said thank you. 467 00:28:52,630 --> 00:28:53,698 And he responded back to me. 468 00:28:53,798 --> 00:28:55,500 He said, don't thank me. 469 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:56,234 Thank your father. 470 00:28:59,771 --> 00:29:03,508 Even though I felt great, part of me was skeptical. 471 00:29:03,608 --> 00:29:06,978 I detoxed off of lithium two years ago. 472 00:29:07,078 --> 00:29:10,181 How could it possibly show up now? 473 00:29:10,281 --> 00:29:13,218 So I turned to Dr. Dempster. 474 00:29:13,318 --> 00:29:14,419 Hey, Ross, come on in. 475 00:29:14,519 --> 00:29:15,353 Yeah. 476 00:29:15,453 --> 00:29:17,122 We just got the results in from-- 477 00:29:17,222 --> 00:29:18,389 They came in. 478 00:29:18,490 --> 00:29:20,859 --the cotton ball that we had tested with the lab. 479 00:29:20,959 --> 00:29:22,060 Right. 480 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,129 Truthfully, I was very skeptical of the treatment 481 00:29:24,229 --> 00:29:25,296 you were doing down there. 482 00:29:25,396 --> 00:29:26,064 Right. 483 00:29:26,164 --> 00:29:28,032 And I've got to show you. 484 00:29:28,133 --> 00:29:31,536 The lab sent back the results, and not 485 00:29:31,636 --> 00:29:35,640 only did it detect mercury, but it detected lithium. 486 00:29:35,740 --> 00:29:38,143 What's interesting about that as well is that I brought back 487 00:29:38,243 --> 00:29:40,779 a little tiny piece of after the treatments were done. 488 00:29:40,879 --> 00:29:42,347 But there was a big jar, and so there 489 00:29:42,447 --> 00:29:44,549 was a huge amount of that cotton that was discolored. 490 00:29:44,649 --> 00:29:48,253 So this is just kind of a fraction of what was pulled. 491 00:29:48,353 --> 00:29:49,087 So-- 492 00:29:49,187 --> 00:29:50,855 This is very interesting to us. 493 00:29:50,955 --> 00:29:51,890 Wow. 494 00:29:51,990 --> 00:29:53,124 Even the lab was interested. 495 00:29:53,224 --> 00:29:54,993 Everyone's just sort of scratching their head 496 00:29:55,093 --> 00:29:56,728 on this one. 497 00:29:56,828 --> 00:29:58,129 It was worth the trip to Colombia. 498 00:29:58,229 --> 00:29:58,963 That's right. 499 00:29:59,063 --> 00:30:00,131 Good job. 500 00:30:00,231 --> 00:30:02,400 So it's February 8, 2012. 501 00:30:02,500 --> 00:30:05,537 It's actually officially mental health day here in Canada. 502 00:30:05,637 --> 00:30:07,372 The days keep rolling, rolling. 503 00:30:10,909 --> 00:30:15,079 We're living in a wacky world, that's for sure. 504 00:30:15,180 --> 00:30:19,517 Feeling very rough today and very emotional. 505 00:30:19,617 --> 00:30:22,587 Incredible challenges with the woman 506 00:30:22,687 --> 00:30:24,355 who I love dearly and loves me dearly. 507 00:30:24,455 --> 00:30:25,824 And yeah. 508 00:30:29,894 --> 00:30:32,897 Just causing a lot of anxiety and a lot of stress and just 509 00:30:32,997 --> 00:30:38,236 the fear or being alone and actually taking care of myself. 510 00:30:38,336 --> 00:30:38,970 I'm done for now. 511 00:30:39,070 --> 00:30:40,438 I'm tired. 512 00:30:40,538 --> 00:30:42,040 And yeah. 513 00:31:06,798 --> 00:31:08,066 I got the phone call from Ross. 514 00:31:13,037 --> 00:31:15,440 He was in New York City at the time on the student exchange. 515 00:31:19,677 --> 00:31:21,312 His voice was sped up. 516 00:31:21,412 --> 00:31:22,680 He wasn't sleeping. 517 00:31:25,984 --> 00:31:29,554 And I knew that the behavior and what I was hearing 518 00:31:29,654 --> 00:31:30,989 wasn't the brother that I knew. 519 00:31:31,089 --> 00:31:32,957 Hey, hey, can I buy you dinner? 520 00:31:33,057 --> 00:31:33,992 I know you don't know me. 521 00:31:34,092 --> 00:31:34,726 I don't know you. 522 00:31:34,826 --> 00:31:35,393 I'm serious. 523 00:31:35,493 --> 00:31:36,227 Let's go right now. 524 00:31:36,327 --> 00:31:37,128 Come on, come on, just come on. 525 00:31:37,228 --> 00:31:38,062 Come on, come on. 526 00:31:41,232 --> 00:31:42,467 I'm on the streets, brother man. 527 00:31:42,567 --> 00:31:44,235 I'm hungry and I'm homeless, man. 528 00:31:44,335 --> 00:31:46,037 OK, OK. 529 00:31:46,137 --> 00:31:49,841 He told me he was feeding people in the soup kitchens all night, 530 00:31:49,941 --> 00:31:52,143 and he was giving away his clothes and his money. 531 00:31:52,243 --> 00:31:53,244 Here, you need some money? 532 00:31:53,344 --> 00:31:54,245 Here, just take it. 533 00:31:54,345 --> 00:31:54,746 Take it. 534 00:31:59,584 --> 00:32:01,986 And then when I heard he thought he could fly off the Empire 535 00:32:02,086 --> 00:32:05,156 State Building and land safely was when I said, are you 536 00:32:05,256 --> 00:32:06,891 willing to come home? 537 00:32:06,991 --> 00:32:08,526 Hey, hey, hey. 538 00:32:08,626 --> 00:32:10,895 If I went right up there to the top, I could totally fly. 539 00:32:10,995 --> 00:32:11,596 If I could do it, I would do it. 540 00:32:11,696 --> 00:32:12,163 I'd fly. 541 00:32:12,263 --> 00:32:13,331 I'd just fly. 542 00:32:21,272 --> 00:32:24,809 When he arrived at the airport, I picked him up, and he-- you 543 00:32:24,909 --> 00:32:26,411 know, at Toronto International Airport 544 00:32:26,511 --> 00:32:29,514 where you have that border that you walk through. 545 00:32:29,614 --> 00:32:33,251 Well, he jumped over it and landed in front of me, big hug, 546 00:32:33,351 --> 00:32:35,186 and his eyes were glazed. 547 00:32:35,286 --> 00:32:41,459 And he had lost, I don't know, 30 pounds and just sped up. 548 00:32:41,559 --> 00:32:44,963 Planned an intervention at Grant Valley Hospital. 549 00:32:45,063 --> 00:32:47,265 Everybody's world was rocked because here's 550 00:32:47,365 --> 00:32:50,201 this prodigal son excelling at everything, 551 00:32:50,301 --> 00:32:51,936 and then all of a sudden something's off. 552 00:32:55,606 --> 00:32:58,309 The state he was in, the amount of weight he had lost, 553 00:32:58,409 --> 00:33:00,478 I just said, you could be in jeopardy 554 00:33:00,578 --> 00:33:01,746 of having a heart attack. 555 00:33:01,846 --> 00:33:03,781 Will you come to the hospital with me? 556 00:33:03,881 --> 00:33:07,018 So he said, oh my god, yeah, of course. 557 00:33:07,118 --> 00:33:10,488 And we went into the hospital, and the whole family was there. 558 00:33:10,588 --> 00:33:12,123 The doctor was there, and it was clear 559 00:33:12,223 --> 00:33:13,891 that they needed to admit him. 560 00:33:17,095 --> 00:33:19,430 There were pieces of Ross that came out 561 00:33:19,530 --> 00:33:21,032 that I'd never witnessed before. 562 00:33:24,135 --> 00:33:26,571 I remember him turning to my dad and going, so, 563 00:33:26,671 --> 00:33:28,106 what the fuck do you think of me now? 564 00:33:28,206 --> 00:33:29,307 I'm a big chick magnet. 565 00:33:29,407 --> 00:33:30,541 I drive a convertible. 566 00:33:30,641 --> 00:33:32,176 Fucking proud of me now? 567 00:33:32,276 --> 00:33:35,313 So the truth was coming out. 568 00:33:35,413 --> 00:33:39,417 And my dad, he didn't know what to do with this. 569 00:33:39,517 --> 00:33:42,487 Ross somewhat got trapped in the mirror of my father, 570 00:33:42,587 --> 00:33:44,822 if that makes any sense. 571 00:33:44,922 --> 00:33:47,325 There was a lot of pressure in terms of being the number one 572 00:33:47,425 --> 00:33:51,696 athlete, in terms of whether it was scholastically, 573 00:33:51,796 --> 00:33:53,531 whether it was socially. 574 00:33:53,631 --> 00:33:55,800 I think Ross felt a lot of pressure 575 00:33:55,900 --> 00:33:59,037 to live up to whatever it was my dad expected 576 00:33:59,137 --> 00:34:00,171 of him, which was a lot. 577 00:34:03,341 --> 00:34:07,578 So it's May 3, 2012, and we're on our way to Philadelphia 578 00:34:07,678 --> 00:34:09,881 to the American Psychiatric Association Conference. 579 00:34:09,981 --> 00:34:12,750 It's at the headquarters in Philadelphia. 580 00:34:12,850 --> 00:34:17,422 And there is also going to be a global demonstration going on. 581 00:34:17,522 --> 00:34:19,357 I have no idea of the numbers, what to expect. 582 00:34:19,457 --> 00:34:20,792 But I know that it's been promoted 583 00:34:20,892 --> 00:34:24,228 for the last few months. 584 00:34:24,328 --> 00:34:25,696 [music playing] 585 00:34:47,285 --> 00:34:50,288 It's taking me a long time to find my voice. 586 00:34:50,388 --> 00:34:52,557 But once in Philly, I find others 587 00:34:52,657 --> 00:34:53,791 who aren't afraid to speak up. 588 00:34:57,462 --> 00:35:00,865 Laura Delano was diagnosed bipolar as a teenager. 589 00:35:00,965 --> 00:35:02,400 She treated her symptoms with drugs 590 00:35:02,500 --> 00:35:06,070 and quietly accepted her condition, until now. 591 00:35:11,109 --> 00:35:11,509 Hi. 592 00:35:11,609 --> 00:35:12,009 Hi. 593 00:35:26,357 --> 00:35:27,925 It is an honor to be able to call myself 594 00:35:28,025 --> 00:35:31,195 a psychiatric survivor, especially one representing 595 00:35:31,295 --> 00:35:33,397 my generation. 596 00:35:33,498 --> 00:35:35,099 My generation has grown up believing 597 00:35:35,199 --> 00:35:36,801 that if we can't focus on our work 598 00:35:36,901 --> 00:35:39,170 because we're distracted by the boy we have a crush on, 599 00:35:39,270 --> 00:35:41,472 by the upcoming game we're playing in, 600 00:35:41,572 --> 00:35:44,208 or by the constant bombardment of media from which we can't 601 00:35:44,308 --> 00:35:47,778 escape, we have a brain disease and subsequently medicated 602 00:35:47,879 --> 00:35:51,215 with brightly colored capsules and bitter tasting pills. 603 00:35:51,315 --> 00:35:53,618 During my 13 years in the mental health system, 604 00:35:53,718 --> 00:35:55,987 I believed that I was broken and incapable 605 00:35:56,087 --> 00:35:58,556 of being fixed, that I needed psychiatry 606 00:35:58,656 --> 00:36:00,858 to create a life that came anywhere close to being 607 00:36:00,958 --> 00:36:03,794 considered normal, that my emotional suffering was 608 00:36:03,895 --> 00:36:06,564 due to something wrong with my brain and not the fact 609 00:36:06,664 --> 00:36:09,534 that I was a young girl trying to make sense of herself 610 00:36:09,634 --> 00:36:13,337 in a culture based so much on performance achievement 611 00:36:13,437 --> 00:36:16,741 and perfection, that the emptiness I felt inside 612 00:36:16,841 --> 00:36:19,243 was because I was severely borderline. 613 00:36:19,343 --> 00:36:20,845 I kept waiting and waiting for the day 614 00:36:20,945 --> 00:36:23,648 to come when my psychiatrists and my medications 615 00:36:23,748 --> 00:36:25,049 would give me a life worth living, 616 00:36:25,149 --> 00:36:26,951 and that day never came. 617 00:36:27,051 --> 00:36:29,820 Instead, my life became lonelier, emptier, and number 618 00:36:29,921 --> 00:36:31,789 than it had ever been before. 619 00:36:31,889 --> 00:36:34,125 The profound anger I have today for those 620 00:36:34,225 --> 00:36:37,028 still labeled and still trapped within the biomedical paradigm 621 00:36:37,128 --> 00:36:40,631 of psychiatry is a healthy one that fuels me and motivates 622 00:36:40,731 --> 00:36:42,667 me to do whatever I can to make a change. 623 00:36:56,647 --> 00:36:57,515 We got some labels. 624 00:36:57,615 --> 00:36:59,517 Get your labels, hot labels. 625 00:36:59,617 --> 00:37:01,485 Anyone else want an ADHD? 626 00:37:01,586 --> 00:37:02,486 Yes please. 627 00:37:02,587 --> 00:37:03,454 Bipolar! 628 00:37:03,554 --> 00:37:04,956 We've got bipolar. 629 00:37:05,056 --> 00:37:05,957 Human rights. 630 00:37:06,057 --> 00:37:07,425 When do we want them? 631 00:37:07,525 --> 00:37:08,426 Now! 632 00:37:08,526 --> 00:37:09,393 Human rights. 633 00:37:09,493 --> 00:37:10,895 When do we want it? 634 00:37:10,995 --> 00:37:11,896 Now! 635 00:37:11,996 --> 00:37:14,799 You're on the wrong side, psychotic. 636 00:37:14,899 --> 00:37:16,634 Now he's labeled psychotic. 637 00:37:16,734 --> 00:37:17,602 Label charts. 638 00:37:17,702 --> 00:37:19,070 Not people. 639 00:37:19,170 --> 00:37:20,037 Label charts. 640 00:37:20,137 --> 00:37:22,139 Not people. 641 00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:24,976 I'm here today as a psychiatric survivor. 642 00:37:25,076 --> 00:37:26,310 I'm a psychiatric survivor. 643 00:37:26,410 --> 00:37:27,478 I'm a psychiatric survivor. 644 00:37:27,578 --> 00:37:29,347 The first time I ever met the psychiatrist, 645 00:37:29,447 --> 00:37:31,382 he gave me six prescriptions. 646 00:37:31,482 --> 00:37:35,152 Prozac, Zoloft, trazodone, TOPAMAX, 647 00:37:35,253 --> 00:37:36,921 which I ended up overdosing on. 648 00:37:37,021 --> 00:37:39,490 I had lithium toxicity at age 16. 649 00:37:39,590 --> 00:37:43,661 Wellbutrin, trazodone, and Lamictal. 650 00:37:43,761 --> 00:37:45,429 I'm a licensed psychologist. 651 00:37:45,529 --> 00:37:47,732 Two-year-olds who have temper tantrums 652 00:37:47,832 --> 00:37:50,167 are told that they have bipolar disease, 653 00:37:50,268 --> 00:37:52,103 and they're medicating young children, 654 00:37:52,203 --> 00:37:54,839 and they're absolutely destroying lives. 655 00:37:54,939 --> 00:37:57,041 My favorite label of all of them was an at-risk. 656 00:37:57,141 --> 00:38:02,179 Hey, hey, APA, how many kids did you kill today? 657 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,115 You know, I don't know what they're protesting. 658 00:38:04,215 --> 00:38:08,219 If they're protesting being labeled, say, like bipolar, 659 00:38:08,319 --> 00:38:10,187 it would be like saying somebody's 660 00:38:10,288 --> 00:38:12,356 labeled because they have cancer. 661 00:38:12,456 --> 00:38:13,824 And is that a label? 662 00:38:13,924 --> 00:38:15,760 I don't think it's a label per se. 663 00:38:15,860 --> 00:38:19,063 I think it's a condition of the mind, 664 00:38:19,163 --> 00:38:20,965 and it's eminently treatable. 665 00:38:21,065 --> 00:38:24,068 So that's what psychiatrists tries to do. 666 00:38:24,168 --> 00:38:27,305 It tries to resume-- restore normal functioning. 667 00:38:27,405 --> 00:38:28,706 What do we want? 668 00:38:28,806 --> 00:38:29,640 Human rights. 669 00:38:29,740 --> 00:38:31,075 When do we want it? 670 00:38:31,175 --> 00:38:32,476 Now! 671 00:38:32,576 --> 00:38:33,811 I've traveled 600 miles. 672 00:38:33,911 --> 00:38:36,447 It's the first time I've travel alone in 11 years. 673 00:38:36,547 --> 00:38:38,115 It's that important to me. 674 00:38:38,215 --> 00:38:41,952 I'm here today to rip up my bipolar label. 675 00:38:42,053 --> 00:38:44,689 Yeah. 676 00:38:44,789 --> 00:38:45,990 I am not a label. 677 00:38:46,090 --> 00:38:49,493 And the day I stop apologizing for myself is right now. 678 00:38:55,199 --> 00:38:57,068 We cannot be stopped. 679 00:38:57,168 --> 00:38:59,036 We cannot be stopped. 680 00:38:59,136 --> 00:39:00,338 We cannot be stopped. 681 00:39:06,310 --> 00:39:09,380 This book is the root cause of the protesters' anger. 682 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,116 It's the book that creates all these labels, 683 00:39:12,216 --> 00:39:15,019 the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 684 00:39:15,119 --> 00:39:16,921 or the DSM for short. 685 00:39:17,021 --> 00:39:21,158 It's often referred to as the Bible of psychiatry. 686 00:39:21,258 --> 00:39:23,894 Published by the American Psychiatric Association, 687 00:39:23,994 --> 00:39:26,263 it's used by clinicians and psychiatrists 688 00:39:26,364 --> 00:39:29,100 to diagnose psychiatric illnesses. 689 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,370 The current edition has 365 diagnoses 690 00:39:32,470 --> 00:39:36,474 and defines the ways our brains can go awry. 691 00:39:36,574 --> 00:39:38,275 Once a label gets dispensed, that 692 00:39:38,376 --> 00:39:40,177 means drugs can be prescribed to treat it. 693 00:39:45,349 --> 00:39:48,152 For Robert Whitaker, the labels didn't make sense. 694 00:39:48,252 --> 00:39:49,553 So he made a career debunking what 695 00:39:49,653 --> 00:39:53,057 he calls the myths behind mental disorders. 696 00:39:53,157 --> 00:39:54,759 There's sort of a story that has come out 697 00:39:54,859 --> 00:39:57,194 of the APA over the past 30 years in a form of care 698 00:39:57,294 --> 00:39:59,563 and a belief in what's possible. 699 00:39:59,663 --> 00:40:02,066 And I think a meeting like this is really 700 00:40:02,166 --> 00:40:05,569 looking for perhaps a different vision of what's possible. 701 00:40:05,669 --> 00:40:08,072 I've read his bestselling books, Mad in America 702 00:40:08,172 --> 00:40:10,641 and Anatomy of an Epidemic. 703 00:40:10,741 --> 00:40:12,042 I wanted him to explain to me why 704 00:40:12,143 --> 00:40:15,012 we're seeing more people diagnosed with mental illnesses 705 00:40:15,112 --> 00:40:17,648 than ever before. 706 00:40:17,748 --> 00:40:19,383 I wanted to first ask as a journalist, how 707 00:40:19,483 --> 00:40:21,185 did this topic of mental health, how did it 708 00:40:21,285 --> 00:40:24,255 become such a passion for to research and write about it? 709 00:40:24,355 --> 00:40:26,457 From 1994 to 1998, I had a company 710 00:40:26,557 --> 00:40:28,125 that reported on the business aspects 711 00:40:28,225 --> 00:40:30,327 of bringing new drugs to market. 712 00:40:30,428 --> 00:40:33,531 Came upon studies by the World Health Organization 713 00:40:33,631 --> 00:40:35,833 that found that patients diagnosed with schizophrenia 714 00:40:35,933 --> 00:40:38,269 in the poor countries of the world did better, much better 715 00:40:38,369 --> 00:40:40,171 than in the rich countries of the world. 716 00:40:40,271 --> 00:40:41,906 And so I wanted to know why. 717 00:40:42,006 --> 00:40:44,108 I found that patients in the poor countries 718 00:40:44,208 --> 00:40:47,077 weren't being maintained on medications long term, most 719 00:40:47,178 --> 00:40:48,279 of them. 720 00:40:48,379 --> 00:40:50,214 And this belied everything I knew as a journalist 721 00:40:50,314 --> 00:40:51,348 to be true. 722 00:40:51,449 --> 00:40:52,783 Because my understanding was anybody diagnosed 723 00:40:52,883 --> 00:40:55,286 with schizophrenia needed to be on the meds for life 724 00:40:55,386 --> 00:40:57,154 because they were like insulin for diabetes. 725 00:40:57,254 --> 00:41:00,090 And then once I began reporting on it and researching, 726 00:41:00,191 --> 00:41:03,561 it became clear to me that the story we as a society 727 00:41:03,661 --> 00:41:05,863 were telling ourselves about making great advances 728 00:41:05,963 --> 00:41:08,632 in understanding the biology of mental disorders 729 00:41:08,732 --> 00:41:10,768 and great advances in treating mental disorders, 730 00:41:10,868 --> 00:41:12,503 it wasn't a true story. 731 00:41:12,603 --> 00:41:14,238 And that myth, that delusion, was 732 00:41:14,338 --> 00:41:15,639 causing a great deal of harm. 733 00:41:15,739 --> 00:41:18,008 Why do you think we're seeing such an increase in psych 734 00:41:18,108 --> 00:41:20,110 labels and psych medications? 735 00:41:20,211 --> 00:41:21,645 The only real way to understand it 736 00:41:21,745 --> 00:41:23,614 is through a capitalistic lens. 737 00:41:23,714 --> 00:41:27,051 So you make drugs, what do you want to do? 738 00:41:27,151 --> 00:41:29,687 You want to increase the market, right? 739 00:41:29,787 --> 00:41:31,422 So the way you increase the market 740 00:41:31,522 --> 00:41:35,125 is you expand the definitions of who needs the drug, right? 741 00:41:35,226 --> 00:41:38,863 I remember calling up someone at a pharmaceutical company 742 00:41:38,963 --> 00:41:41,665 and asking them about the chemical imbalance theory. 743 00:41:41,765 --> 00:41:43,334 And he says, well, it's not really true. 744 00:41:43,434 --> 00:41:44,602 And I said, what do you mean it's not true? 745 00:41:44,702 --> 00:41:46,904 Uh, we say that to get people to take the drugs. 746 00:41:47,004 --> 00:41:48,072 He said that to you. 747 00:41:48,172 --> 00:41:51,675 Yeah, and I'm like, well, I didn't know that. 748 00:41:51,775 --> 00:41:54,478 It's a business success story. 749 00:41:54,578 --> 00:41:57,281 What are your thoughts today with the DSM-V coming out? 750 00:41:57,381 --> 00:41:59,683 What are your thoughts on the DSM-V? 751 00:41:59,783 --> 00:42:03,420 Listen everybody's going to be in DSM-V. Every single person 752 00:42:03,521 --> 00:42:05,222 can find themselves in DSM-V. Actually, I 753 00:42:05,322 --> 00:42:07,291 think they can find themselves in DSM-IV. 754 00:42:07,391 --> 00:42:10,528 But trust me, you'll be in DSM-V. I'll be in DSM-V. 755 00:42:10,628 --> 00:42:11,362 And it means-- 756 00:42:11,462 --> 00:42:12,296 I'm already in DSM-III and IV. 757 00:42:12,396 --> 00:42:13,197 OK, you're already in III and IV. 758 00:42:13,297 --> 00:42:14,231 Technically. 759 00:42:14,331 --> 00:42:16,300 But what I'm saying is, we've allowed 760 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,670 so many categories of feelings, emotions, 761 00:42:19,770 --> 00:42:22,740 moods that if you go to a psychiatrist 762 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,742 or actually if you go to your doctor complaining 763 00:42:24,842 --> 00:42:30,047 of some unease, you will be eligible for a diagnosis 764 00:42:30,147 --> 00:42:31,415 and a treatment. 765 00:42:31,515 --> 00:42:33,384 Here's what is really, really exciting 766 00:42:33,484 --> 00:42:35,753 about what just got discovered and what's going on. 767 00:42:35,853 --> 00:42:39,223 A man by the name of Allen Frances, who is literally 768 00:42:39,323 --> 00:42:42,626 lead editor of the fourth edition of the psychiatric 769 00:42:42,726 --> 00:42:45,296 Diagnostic and Statistics Manual, 770 00:42:45,396 --> 00:42:49,466 he is actually coming out to say that what he has done 771 00:42:49,567 --> 00:42:53,070 and the manual that he created, he is actually mortified by it. 772 00:42:53,170 --> 00:42:54,772 And I want to just read a quote because I 773 00:42:54,872 --> 00:42:56,173 think it's really important. 774 00:42:56,273 --> 00:42:59,276 This is Allen Frances quoted as saying, "We made mistakes that 775 00:42:59,376 --> 00:43:02,179 had terrible consequences with the Diagnostic Statistics 776 00:43:02,279 --> 00:43:03,948 Manual number four. 777 00:43:04,048 --> 00:43:07,685 Diagnosis of autism, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, 778 00:43:07,785 --> 00:43:10,521 and bipolar disorder skyrocketed." 779 00:43:10,621 --> 00:43:12,222 And Frances thinks that his manual 780 00:43:12,323 --> 00:43:15,826 inadvertently facilitated these academics and in the bargain 781 00:43:15,926 --> 00:43:19,496 fostered an increasing tendency to chalk up life's difficulties 782 00:43:19,597 --> 00:43:22,199 to mental illness and then treat them with psychiatric drugs. 783 00:43:22,299 --> 00:43:24,134 Again, this isn't about an attack on everyone. 784 00:43:24,234 --> 00:43:26,036 This is about, let's create the awareness. 785 00:43:26,136 --> 00:43:28,472 Let's actually get things right, and let's move forward 786 00:43:28,572 --> 00:43:31,141 in creating a new reality so we can get people help 787 00:43:31,241 --> 00:43:33,577 and not actually get people into a situation where there's 788 00:43:33,677 --> 00:43:35,446 more and more sickness and illness being created 789 00:43:35,546 --> 00:43:37,681 that actually isn't even real and doesn't even exist. 790 00:44:01,972 --> 00:44:06,477 When he was young, seeing the doctor at CAMH and saying he 791 00:44:06,577 --> 00:44:10,748 still wanted to come off lithium, and the doctor said, 792 00:44:10,848 --> 00:44:12,082 oh no, he can't. 793 00:44:12,182 --> 00:44:15,953 And Ross said, why don't you try it and see how it feels? 794 00:44:16,053 --> 00:44:18,522 And with that, the doctor walked into the door, 795 00:44:18,622 --> 00:44:21,191 and that was the last time I think he saw the doctor. 796 00:44:30,567 --> 00:44:34,238 I'm not knowledgeable enough about the whole disease. 797 00:44:34,338 --> 00:44:38,175 But seeing him the way he is now-- 798 00:44:38,275 --> 00:44:39,009 Any other questions? 799 00:44:42,579 --> 00:44:45,315 --I think there may be some misdiagnosis. 800 00:44:45,416 --> 00:44:48,452 I think there's a possibility. 801 00:44:48,552 --> 00:44:50,054 I'm feeling better and better each day, 802 00:44:50,154 --> 00:44:53,424 and I'm really happy about that. 803 00:44:53,524 --> 00:44:57,227 I am so delighted now to see the changes. 804 00:44:57,327 --> 00:45:00,998 And I've had people recently ask me how Ross is doing, 805 00:45:01,098 --> 00:45:03,500 and I said amazing. 806 00:45:06,704 --> 00:45:07,404 Much more focused. 807 00:45:20,084 --> 00:45:21,885 I go back to the place I call the battlefield 808 00:45:21,985 --> 00:45:24,021 of my fight over my bipolar disorder. 809 00:45:24,121 --> 00:45:26,290 I was a patient at the Centre for Addiction and Mental 810 00:45:26,390 --> 00:45:28,959 Health, CAMH for short. 811 00:45:29,059 --> 00:45:30,961 I wanted to be off my drugs. 812 00:45:31,061 --> 00:45:32,663 My psychiatrist wanted me on them. 813 00:45:32,763 --> 00:45:34,865 It was a struggle that ended when my doctor delivered 814 00:45:34,965 --> 00:45:39,737 the final blow, accept the treatment or leave his office. 815 00:45:39,837 --> 00:45:42,239 I've gone through a lot of changes since them, 816 00:45:42,339 --> 00:45:43,307 but what about the system? 817 00:45:46,043 --> 00:45:48,112 I reach out to Dr. David Goldbloom, 818 00:45:48,212 --> 00:45:49,680 the senior medical advisor for CAMH 819 00:45:49,780 --> 00:45:53,350 and the chair of the Mental Health Commission of Canada. 820 00:45:53,450 --> 00:45:55,452 Now, along my journey, I've met people 821 00:45:55,552 --> 00:45:57,588 who have been prescribed medications. 822 00:45:57,688 --> 00:45:58,689 Right. 823 00:45:58,789 --> 00:46:00,023 And then with that, then they're prescribed 824 00:46:00,124 --> 00:46:02,226 more medications to kind of deal with the side 825 00:46:02,326 --> 00:46:04,962 effects of those medications, getting into like a cocktail. 826 00:46:05,062 --> 00:46:06,697 I don't think we are over medicating 827 00:46:06,797 --> 00:46:08,065 with psychotropic medications. 828 00:46:08,165 --> 00:46:10,768 If you look in community surveys, 829 00:46:10,868 --> 00:46:14,404 most cases of depression are still missed in the community. 830 00:46:14,505 --> 00:46:17,207 So if you've got depression in Canada, 831 00:46:17,307 --> 00:46:20,410 the greatest likelihood is you're not going to be treated. 832 00:46:20,511 --> 00:46:23,113 Does that mean that the right people are always 833 00:46:23,213 --> 00:46:25,582 getting the right medication? 834 00:46:25,682 --> 00:46:27,384 No it doesn't. 835 00:46:27,484 --> 00:46:32,723 Inevitably, some people have been misdiagnosed. 836 00:46:32,823 --> 00:46:36,293 That's abundant throughout all of medicine, right? 837 00:46:36,393 --> 00:46:39,096 When I make a diagnosis, I'm often 838 00:46:39,196 --> 00:46:44,735 doing so at a 90 degree angle to the trajectory 839 00:46:44,835 --> 00:46:46,236 of somebody's life. 840 00:46:46,336 --> 00:46:48,672 You're not with them before they got ill. 841 00:46:48,772 --> 00:46:52,209 You're not with them necessarily a year or two later. 842 00:46:52,309 --> 00:46:54,411 You're coming in at a 90 degree angle. 843 00:46:54,511 --> 00:46:57,781 I guess at this point, I wanted to talk about the mental labels 844 00:46:57,881 --> 00:47:00,284 and the manual responsible for them. 845 00:47:00,384 --> 00:47:04,054 You know, the DSM is now going into its fifth edition. 846 00:47:04,154 --> 00:47:07,357 And it started out to be a shared language 847 00:47:07,457 --> 00:47:12,095 of communication so that health professional A could talk 848 00:47:12,196 --> 00:47:15,766 to health professional B about a patient 849 00:47:15,866 --> 00:47:18,435 and know that they were talking about the same phenomenon-- 850 00:47:18,535 --> 00:47:19,503 Right, speaking the same language. 851 00:47:19,603 --> 00:47:20,904 --that they were seeing, a shared language. 852 00:47:21,004 --> 00:47:23,507 So I wonder if you could walk me through the process of how 853 00:47:23,607 --> 00:47:26,610 a new disorder is actually entered into the manual. 854 00:47:26,710 --> 00:47:29,012 Firstly, they have a kind of open process 855 00:47:29,112 --> 00:47:33,083 where people can lobby, if you will, 856 00:47:33,183 --> 00:47:36,420 for clinical concerns that they have 857 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,555 that they think should be considered 858 00:47:38,655 --> 00:47:41,959 as a possible diagnosis. 859 00:47:42,059 --> 00:47:45,262 For every one of the groups of psychiatric disorders, 860 00:47:45,362 --> 00:47:49,766 they have an expert panel, psychiatrists, psychologists, 861 00:47:49,867 --> 00:47:52,202 social workers, people with expertise 862 00:47:52,302 --> 00:47:54,171 in that particular area. 863 00:47:54,271 --> 00:47:56,840 And some diagnoses will make the cut, 864 00:47:56,940 --> 00:47:58,842 and some will not make the cut. 865 00:47:58,942 --> 00:48:00,410 And I think that they've been actually 866 00:48:00,510 --> 00:48:05,716 quite scrupulous in trying to control and contain 867 00:48:05,816 --> 00:48:08,285 the influence of pharmaceutical companies. 868 00:48:08,385 --> 00:48:10,520 The challenge is that some of the people who 869 00:48:10,621 --> 00:48:15,859 sit on the DSM committees have affiliations 870 00:48:15,959 --> 00:48:16,693 with drug companies. 871 00:48:25,936 --> 00:48:27,504 When he first was admitted, I know 872 00:48:27,604 --> 00:48:29,873 that they misdiagnosed him, and they 873 00:48:29,973 --> 00:48:31,508 thought he might be schizophrenic. 874 00:48:31,608 --> 00:48:32,776 He did not want to be in there. 875 00:48:32,876 --> 00:48:34,711 He was pretty angry with me too because I 876 00:48:34,811 --> 00:48:37,848 was the catalyst in getting him in. 877 00:48:37,948 --> 00:48:40,217 And when he escaped, that was the worst night. 878 00:48:55,132 --> 00:48:58,001 My boyfriend Luke is picking me up tonight. 879 00:49:00,938 --> 00:49:02,706 Because really there's nothing wrong with me. 880 00:49:06,009 --> 00:49:08,278 It's just I have all these tears. 881 00:49:08,378 --> 00:49:10,948 They just keep falling and torturing 882 00:49:11,048 --> 00:49:14,084 and falling and torturing. 883 00:49:14,184 --> 00:49:17,721 Do you know what it feels like? 884 00:49:17,821 --> 00:49:20,223 Mm-mm, no. 885 00:49:20,324 --> 00:49:22,693 It's hell. 886 00:49:22,793 --> 00:49:24,695 And no one is helping me. 887 00:49:28,298 --> 00:49:29,733 And there's different kinds of tears. 888 00:49:29,833 --> 00:49:32,035 There's tears of sadness like when something really bad 889 00:49:32,135 --> 00:49:35,305 happens to me like my grandma died. 890 00:49:35,405 --> 00:49:39,176 And I was crying because I knew I would never see her again. 891 00:49:42,679 --> 00:49:45,515 Then there's flower tears. 892 00:49:45,615 --> 00:49:49,619 And flower tears are the shapes of petals. 893 00:49:49,720 --> 00:49:51,488 But it's the acid tears. 894 00:49:51,588 --> 00:49:53,323 Can you protect me from the acid tears? 895 00:49:53,423 --> 00:49:55,258 They burn holes in my skin. 896 00:50:10,173 --> 00:50:10,574 Hello? 897 00:50:10,674 --> 00:50:11,141 Hi there. 898 00:50:11,241 --> 00:50:11,708 I just need-- 899 00:50:11,808 --> 00:50:12,409 Can I help you? 900 00:50:12,509 --> 00:50:12,642 --need to use the phone. 901 00:50:22,285 --> 00:50:23,120 Oh, [inaudible]. 902 00:50:23,220 --> 00:50:24,354 I just met this woman that scared 903 00:50:24,454 --> 00:50:25,422 the living shit out of me. 904 00:50:25,522 --> 00:50:26,556 I don't know if she's possessed or what, 905 00:50:26,656 --> 00:50:27,557 but I need to get to the Toronto airport, 906 00:50:27,657 --> 00:50:28,658 and I need to get to South America. 907 00:50:28,759 --> 00:50:29,726 So I need you to help me. 908 00:50:29,826 --> 00:50:30,927 Look, I will pay you back. 909 00:50:31,028 --> 00:50:32,963 I [inaudible]. 910 00:50:33,063 --> 00:50:34,331 I need to leave tonight. 911 00:50:34,431 --> 00:50:36,400 Look, I'll be at the corner of Young Street and Lake Shore 912 00:50:36,500 --> 00:50:37,467 Boulevard. 913 00:50:37,567 --> 00:50:39,202 Please, I just need you to do this, OK? 914 00:50:39,302 --> 00:50:40,170 I'll see you there. 915 00:50:40,270 --> 00:50:40,804 OK, bye. 916 00:50:40,904 --> 00:50:41,371 Excuse me. 917 00:50:41,471 --> 00:50:42,039 Wait a second. 918 00:50:42,139 --> 00:50:44,775 Excuse me! 919 00:50:44,875 --> 00:50:48,812 Yes, a man just broke into my house wearing hospital garb. 920 00:50:48,912 --> 00:50:49,713 Yeah, everyone's OK. 921 00:50:53,316 --> 00:50:55,385 Just that whole sense of not having any control 922 00:50:55,485 --> 00:50:57,888 over anything, which I guess none of us do anyways. 923 00:50:57,988 --> 00:50:59,423 But when you love somebody so much 924 00:50:59,523 --> 00:51:01,725 and you know they're in trouble and they're 925 00:51:01,825 --> 00:51:04,928 somewhere out in the streets, and they won't let us anywhere 926 00:51:05,028 --> 00:51:06,396 near him, and they had the police 927 00:51:06,496 --> 00:51:08,565 looking for him and dogs looking for him, 928 00:51:08,665 --> 00:51:12,269 and then to later find out they beat him up 929 00:51:12,369 --> 00:51:14,738 because he was resisting-- he was panicked. 930 00:51:14,838 --> 00:51:17,007 Somebody in the hospital was saying they were the devil 931 00:51:17,107 --> 00:51:17,808 and they were going to kill him. 932 00:51:17,908 --> 00:51:18,809 I mean, he was panicked. 933 00:51:21,678 --> 00:51:22,612 Excuse me, sir. 934 00:51:22,712 --> 00:51:23,613 Can you give me a lift to the airport? 935 00:51:23,713 --> 00:51:25,015 I just need to get to the airport. 936 00:51:36,426 --> 00:51:38,628 So that's I guess when they put him in the straitjacket 937 00:51:38,728 --> 00:51:41,531 in the white padded room, wouldn't let us see him. 938 00:51:52,876 --> 00:51:54,478 I just can't imagine what he went through 939 00:51:54,578 --> 00:51:56,947 or anybody goes through. 940 00:51:57,047 --> 00:52:02,486 What I know now if I'd known then, it's horrifying. 941 00:52:11,895 --> 00:52:14,397 When I witnessed what was happening for Ross, 942 00:52:14,498 --> 00:52:16,032 unfortunately I looked at my parents, 943 00:52:16,133 --> 00:52:20,036 and I went, what the hell? 944 00:52:20,137 --> 00:52:21,171 And you're surprised? 945 00:52:30,914 --> 00:52:32,215 Just coming to Laguna Beach now. 946 00:52:32,315 --> 00:52:33,717 I'm going to see my sister Laura who 947 00:52:33,817 --> 00:52:37,754 has been here for more than 10 years. 948 00:52:37,854 --> 00:52:41,057 I have lot of memories here. 949 00:52:41,158 --> 00:52:42,526 My parents had to get a place here. 950 00:52:42,626 --> 00:52:47,497 My dad came out on business and fell in love with it so much. 951 00:52:47,597 --> 00:52:51,101 It was amazing to spend my summers here. 952 00:52:51,201 --> 00:52:53,403 Yeah, and just a lot of incredible memories. 953 00:52:53,503 --> 00:52:56,239 And this is a place that-- where I, 954 00:52:56,339 --> 00:52:58,675 probably one of the places that I feel my dad's spirit most 955 00:52:58,775 --> 00:52:59,409 strongly resides. 956 00:53:05,215 --> 00:53:07,384 Oh my god, you're here. 957 00:53:07,484 --> 00:53:08,451 Welcome. 958 00:53:08,552 --> 00:53:09,719 Now I'm getting a chance for the weekend 959 00:53:09,819 --> 00:53:12,189 just to relax and visit my sister, Laura. 960 00:53:12,289 --> 00:53:15,192 She's one of my best buds, and kind of just 961 00:53:15,292 --> 00:53:17,627 be able to chill out for the weekend. 962 00:53:17,727 --> 00:53:19,362 It's been a while since I've done a class, 963 00:53:19,462 --> 00:53:22,399 but I did a yoga class. 964 00:53:22,499 --> 00:53:24,834 Yoga's a huge part of what's really 965 00:53:24,935 --> 00:53:27,537 important to my own personal practice and staying grounded 966 00:53:27,637 --> 00:53:30,907 and saying well and staying balanced. 967 00:53:31,007 --> 00:53:33,210 And it's just something that's so important to keep up. 968 00:53:33,310 --> 00:53:34,578 It's amazing. 969 00:53:34,678 --> 00:53:38,315 This is like a moving, sweating meditation that is so good. 970 00:53:38,415 --> 00:53:40,483 And the benefits of just staying consistent with it 971 00:53:40,584 --> 00:53:43,486 is huge of just staying grounded and focused 972 00:53:43,587 --> 00:53:45,755 when, you know, the world can just be nuts 973 00:53:45,855 --> 00:53:46,590 and swimming around. 974 00:53:49,859 --> 00:53:52,762 It is September 21, 2011, and I'm here 975 00:53:52,862 --> 00:53:54,631 getting my second chelation treatment. 976 00:53:54,731 --> 00:53:58,501 It is my eighth chelation session today. 977 00:53:58,602 --> 00:54:00,537 17th chelation treatment right now. 978 00:54:00,637 --> 00:54:04,174 I have at this points done 20 chelation sessions. 979 00:54:04,274 --> 00:54:07,711 So it's January 10, 2012, super freaking stressed today. 980 00:54:07,811 --> 00:54:09,279 It's actually a great challenge for me 981 00:54:09,379 --> 00:54:11,114 because I have to constantly get better and better. 982 00:54:11,214 --> 00:54:12,983 Things are heating up, and this process 983 00:54:13,083 --> 00:54:14,050 is getting more stressful. 984 00:54:14,150 --> 00:54:15,952 And stress is not a good thing for me, 985 00:54:16,052 --> 00:54:17,320 and I start to feel unbalanced. 986 00:54:17,420 --> 00:54:18,755 And coming through this whole ride 987 00:54:18,855 --> 00:54:20,490 and being able to manage and stay balanced 988 00:54:20,590 --> 00:54:22,759 is probably my biggest stress challenge to date 989 00:54:22,859 --> 00:54:24,928 as far as any kind of work environment I've been in. 990 00:54:25,028 --> 00:54:26,529 And today I'm not feeling as grounded, 991 00:54:26,630 --> 00:54:27,764 and you can probably see that. 992 00:54:27,864 --> 00:54:28,598 We're bombarded. 993 00:54:28,698 --> 00:54:29,566 We're bombarded. 994 00:54:29,666 --> 00:54:31,268 I'm just feeling really out of sorts. 995 00:54:31,368 --> 00:54:33,737 I just had a complete explosion and blowout. 996 00:54:33,837 --> 00:54:34,571 Bombarded. 997 00:54:34,671 --> 00:54:35,939 This thing happened so quick. 998 00:54:36,039 --> 00:54:38,341 Phone call, it was an email, and I didn't do the reply all. 999 00:54:38,441 --> 00:54:40,143 And then frick, are we at this place again? 1000 00:54:40,243 --> 00:54:41,278 Like it goes both ways. 1001 00:54:41,378 --> 00:54:42,579 I'm a fricking bonehead. 1002 00:54:42,679 --> 00:54:45,482 I think the tension in your head, tension in your jaw, 1003 00:54:45,582 --> 00:54:46,483 really, really intense. 1004 00:54:46,583 --> 00:54:47,984 You start to feel unbalanced. 1005 00:54:48,084 --> 00:54:49,319 But you know what? 1006 00:54:49,419 --> 00:54:51,321 This is also being human. 1007 00:54:51,421 --> 00:54:52,522 I embrace that too. 1008 00:54:52,622 --> 00:54:55,558 And the last thing I want to do is be numbing out 1009 00:54:55,659 --> 00:54:57,227 from the intensity of what's going on, 1010 00:54:57,327 --> 00:55:02,098 because it's really important to be on, right on it. 1011 00:55:02,198 --> 00:55:04,634 It is not an easy road. 1012 00:55:04,734 --> 00:55:08,071 And just because maybe some side effects of medications 1013 00:55:08,171 --> 00:55:11,408 are released, you know, I still find I'm managing, like again, 1014 00:55:11,508 --> 00:55:13,176 right now I'm managing stress loads. 1015 00:55:17,047 --> 00:55:18,948 And it's something that's really important 1016 00:55:19,049 --> 00:55:20,850 to know that you have to have your tools. 1017 00:55:20,950 --> 00:55:24,187 You have to have your tools in place. 1018 00:55:24,287 --> 00:55:25,722 If you don't, jeez, I mean, things 1019 00:55:25,822 --> 00:55:28,525 could just get-- things can go haywire. 1020 00:55:33,129 --> 00:55:35,565 As tension builds in the body, it takes time to chip away 1021 00:55:35,665 --> 00:55:39,035 and release that tension again. 1022 00:55:39,135 --> 00:55:40,804 Why don't I show you where we were before? 1023 00:55:40,904 --> 00:55:42,005 This will be the easiest way. 1024 00:55:42,105 --> 00:55:43,473 Yep. 1025 00:55:43,573 --> 00:55:45,975 So this is where we were when we first did our test, right? 1026 00:55:46,076 --> 00:55:47,210 This is where our mercury was. 1027 00:55:47,310 --> 00:55:48,345 This is where our lead was. 1028 00:55:48,445 --> 00:55:49,713 Look at where we are now. 1029 00:55:49,813 --> 00:55:50,413 Wow. 1030 00:55:50,513 --> 00:55:51,147 You've done very well. 1031 00:55:51,247 --> 00:55:52,515 That's huge. 1032 00:55:52,615 --> 00:55:55,985 And we've gone from a level of 17 in mercury down to 7.1. 1033 00:55:56,086 --> 00:55:56,886 That's huge. 1034 00:55:56,986 --> 00:55:57,520 Yeah. 1035 00:55:57,620 --> 00:55:58,655 So less than half. 1036 00:55:58,755 --> 00:56:00,557 And these, again, these are powerful neurotoxins 1037 00:56:00,657 --> 00:56:01,558 that we want to get down. 1038 00:56:01,658 --> 00:56:02,659 Right. 1039 00:56:02,759 --> 00:56:03,893 And we want to get you down into the green, 1040 00:56:03,993 --> 00:56:05,729 so we've got a little bit more to go, 1041 00:56:05,829 --> 00:56:07,263 but you've done very well. 1042 00:56:07,364 --> 00:56:09,466 The lead generally takes longer to get down, 1043 00:56:09,566 --> 00:56:11,101 but it's still coming down very nicely, 1044 00:56:11,201 --> 00:56:13,803 and we've gone from an 11 to a 4.6. 1045 00:56:13,903 --> 00:56:14,804 OK. 1046 00:56:14,904 --> 00:56:15,872 I'm impressed with this. 1047 00:56:15,972 --> 00:56:19,476 I'm happy with your progress right now. 1048 00:56:19,576 --> 00:56:22,946 What I'm noticing now is that I'm allowing myself just 1049 00:56:23,046 --> 00:56:26,015 to live life and experience normal ups and downs. 1050 00:56:26,116 --> 00:56:28,218 And yeah, I get stressed out sometimes, 1051 00:56:28,318 --> 00:56:29,586 and I deal with that. 1052 00:56:29,686 --> 00:56:32,155 But the difference now is that a huge difference from what 1053 00:56:32,255 --> 00:56:33,523 it used to be before is that when 1054 00:56:33,623 --> 00:56:36,259 I was diagnosed bipolar and medicated, 1055 00:56:36,359 --> 00:56:39,996 I spent every second questioning every mood, every thought. 1056 00:56:40,096 --> 00:56:42,365 And I was always in a state of, am I too high? 1057 00:56:42,465 --> 00:56:43,266 Am I too low? 1058 00:56:43,366 --> 00:56:44,067 Am I too sad? 1059 00:56:44,167 --> 00:56:44,968 Am I too this? 1060 00:56:45,068 --> 00:56:45,802 Am I too that? 1061 00:56:45,902 --> 00:56:47,137 And I couldn't even live life. 1062 00:56:47,237 --> 00:56:49,739 To be in this place now is a huge, huge different shift, 1063 00:56:49,839 --> 00:56:51,841 and I'm just going to just ride with it because I'm 1064 00:56:51,941 --> 00:56:53,209 enjoying this new state of being. 1065 00:57:01,918 --> 00:57:08,958 OK, thanks for the-- bah, excuse me. 1066 00:57:09,058 --> 00:57:10,794 Thanks for the pink flamingos. 1067 00:57:10,894 --> 00:57:12,695 They're great. 1068 00:57:12,796 --> 00:57:16,199 Between dad's bad mood, my mom overflowing the Jacuzzi, 1069 00:57:16,299 --> 00:57:19,068 they're not bad, and I've had a good life with them 1070 00:57:19,169 --> 00:57:23,173 And I'd like to thank them much, and I 1071 00:57:23,273 --> 00:57:31,714 hope they bring me up well, because [mumbling] 1072 00:57:31,815 --> 00:57:34,818 OK, I can't do it on my own. 1073 00:57:34,918 --> 00:57:37,720 Thanks very much, and I've got to go because I'm very nervous. 1074 00:57:37,821 --> 00:57:39,189 OK, thanks, bye. 1075 00:57:44,661 --> 00:57:47,931 When Ross was really young, I saw him 1076 00:57:48,031 --> 00:57:53,570 as this really sensitive person who 1077 00:57:53,670 --> 00:57:55,138 everything affected him really deeply. 1078 00:58:00,210 --> 00:58:04,380 And he didn't really show his emotions all that much. 1079 00:58:04,481 --> 00:58:07,250 I mean, he'd go and hide to show-- to express his emotions. 1080 00:58:09,886 --> 00:58:12,222 So I always felt really protective of him. 1081 00:58:12,322 --> 00:58:14,824 It's like I was always watching and making sure he was OK. 1082 00:58:14,924 --> 00:58:17,827 And it wasn't easy growing up in our family. 1083 00:58:20,563 --> 00:58:24,634 We talked about everything, but how we felt about things 1084 00:58:24,734 --> 00:58:26,202 wasn't always OK. 1085 00:58:26,302 --> 00:58:28,137 So we kind of had to keep that to ourselves 1086 00:58:28,238 --> 00:58:32,842 or be told that we were wrong for feeling the way we felt. 1087 00:58:32,942 --> 00:58:34,511 Whatever move we made, we were always 1088 00:58:34,611 --> 00:58:36,079 going to get in trouble for something. 1089 00:58:43,319 --> 00:58:44,954 I feel like I'm making up for some growth. 1090 00:58:47,624 --> 00:58:49,859 I realized I was asleep at the wheel for a long time. 1091 00:58:57,267 --> 00:58:58,968 I spent so many years on auto pilot. 1092 00:59:06,109 --> 00:59:08,378 I think there's times I denied what I'm actually feeling. 1093 00:59:21,224 --> 00:59:26,095 I spent a lot of my life going outside of myself for answers. 1094 00:59:26,195 --> 00:59:27,630 And I think what I'd like to learn 1095 00:59:27,730 --> 00:59:29,065 is this concept of going within. 1096 00:59:33,603 --> 00:59:34,637 I have to fix myself. 1097 00:59:40,577 --> 00:59:43,980 I know someone who can help me confront my feelings, 1098 00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:47,283 feelings that I've buried for so long. 1099 00:59:47,383 --> 00:59:49,485 Dr. Charles Whitfield is a physician 1100 00:59:49,586 --> 00:59:51,955 based in Atlanta, Georgia, and specializes 1101 00:59:52,055 --> 00:59:54,724 in psychological trauma and recovery. 1102 00:59:54,824 --> 00:59:56,626 We met last year at a mental health conference 1103 00:59:56,726 --> 00:59:59,262 and have been in touch since. 1104 00:59:59,362 --> 01:00:01,598 In his 30 years of research, Whitfield 1105 01:00:01,698 --> 01:00:03,900 found that most of his patients were misdiagnosed 1106 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,437 with some form of mental illness. 1107 01:00:07,537 --> 01:00:09,806 So Dr. Whitfield, I'm here today because I've 1108 01:00:09,906 --> 01:00:11,741 been reading some of your books, and it's 1109 01:00:11,841 --> 01:00:14,210 been starting to get me to ask a lot of questions 1110 01:00:14,310 --> 01:00:15,912 just about my own experience. 1111 01:00:16,012 --> 01:00:19,382 You talk a lot about post traumatic stress and all that, 1112 01:00:19,482 --> 01:00:21,451 and I'm curious to learn more about that. 1113 01:00:21,551 --> 01:00:25,588 Well, what I've noticed with my countless number of patients 1114 01:00:25,688 --> 01:00:30,360 over the decades is that when I take a careful history, 1115 01:00:30,460 --> 01:00:34,864 including a drug intake and a trauma history, 1116 01:00:34,964 --> 01:00:39,902 probably more than half have in fact PTSD-- Post Traumatic 1117 01:00:40,003 --> 01:00:41,237 Stress Disorder. 1118 01:00:41,337 --> 01:00:43,806 But when I hear the term post traumatic stress disorder, 1119 01:00:43,906 --> 01:00:46,542 I'm think-- like immediately my brain goes to, like, people 1120 01:00:46,643 --> 01:00:48,845 that have come back from the war and veterans and things 1121 01:00:48,945 --> 01:00:49,779 like that. 1122 01:00:49,879 --> 01:00:53,783 So how does that relate even to me? 1123 01:00:53,883 --> 01:00:55,585 Well, it sounds like you certainly 1124 01:00:55,685 --> 01:00:59,822 had a series of acute traumatic stress 1125 01:00:59,922 --> 01:01:02,925 experiences in your history that you just told me. 1126 01:01:03,026 --> 01:01:06,162 But what about before that? 1127 01:01:06,262 --> 01:01:10,466 In your childhood growing up, what was your family of origin 1128 01:01:10,566 --> 01:01:13,136 like, and how did your parents and siblings 1129 01:01:13,236 --> 01:01:17,173 and other people around you treat you? 1130 01:01:17,273 --> 01:01:26,315 [cheering] 1131 01:01:26,416 --> 01:01:30,219 My father wanted a son forever. 1132 01:01:30,319 --> 01:01:33,523 So we always called Ross the golden child. 1133 01:01:33,623 --> 01:01:34,891 He always had this sensitivity. 1134 01:01:34,991 --> 01:01:37,260 I mean, we loved him from the day he came into the world. 1135 01:01:40,363 --> 01:01:43,399 And he grew up in a pretty overpowering family, 1136 01:01:43,499 --> 01:01:47,970 a very strong domineering father who liked to take up space. 1137 01:01:48,071 --> 01:01:53,943 I've also been blessed with three wonderful children. 1138 01:01:54,043 --> 01:01:55,778 I don't tell them this enough, and I 1139 01:01:55,878 --> 01:01:58,514 want to tell it to them in front of all of you. 1140 01:01:58,614 --> 01:02:02,719 I'm particularly proud because not only 1141 01:02:02,819 --> 01:02:06,355 are they sensitive to people-- all three of them-- 1142 01:02:06,456 --> 01:02:08,324 but in their own way, they're carving out 1143 01:02:08,424 --> 01:02:10,526 their own personalities. 1144 01:02:10,626 --> 01:02:13,296 And they believe in what they believe. 1145 01:02:13,396 --> 01:02:16,532 And it isn't always what Donna and I believe, 1146 01:02:16,632 --> 01:02:19,035 but they have the strength and the courage 1147 01:02:19,135 --> 01:02:22,371 to go ahead and do it anyway. 1148 01:02:22,472 --> 01:02:27,877 He viewed us as a reflection of him and an extension of him. 1149 01:02:27,977 --> 01:02:29,912 So when we didn't measure up-- and he 1150 01:02:30,012 --> 01:02:32,115 was a very tough man on himself-- 1151 01:02:32,215 --> 01:02:39,288 if we didn't quite measure up, then that scared him. 1152 01:02:39,388 --> 01:02:45,294 If Ross excelled, my dad felt OK about himself. 1153 01:02:45,394 --> 01:02:47,663 There was a lack of a separation of where my dad ended 1154 01:02:47,764 --> 01:02:50,700 and Ross began. 1155 01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:52,769 You stupid fucking idiot. 1156 01:02:52,869 --> 01:02:54,470 What is your problem? 1157 01:02:54,570 --> 01:02:55,938 He could be verbally abusive. 1158 01:02:56,038 --> 01:02:57,607 He could be physically abusive. 1159 01:02:57,707 --> 01:02:59,575 He could be emotionally abusive. 1160 01:02:59,675 --> 01:03:00,843 He did that a lot with Ross. 1161 01:03:00,943 --> 01:03:05,581 He'd be running back and forth across the ice screaming 1162 01:03:05,681 --> 01:03:08,651 and yelling every time my brother even 1163 01:03:08,751 --> 01:03:11,888 let a shot get close. 1164 01:03:11,988 --> 01:03:14,457 I guess Ross just really never spoke up. 1165 01:03:14,557 --> 01:03:16,225 I mean, he kind of just squashed it in. 1166 01:03:21,297 --> 01:03:23,666 God dammit Ross, in the first half on the breakaway, 1167 01:03:23,766 --> 01:03:25,368 I told you to shoot left, and you shot it 1168 01:03:25,468 --> 01:03:26,936 straight at him, completely open net. 1169 01:03:27,036 --> 01:03:29,539 You've practiced that a million times, and you missed the net. 1170 01:03:29,639 --> 01:03:30,373 You're 10 feet away. 1171 01:03:30,473 --> 01:03:31,674 What is wrong with you? 1172 01:03:31,774 --> 01:03:33,009 I scored both goals. 1173 01:03:33,109 --> 01:03:34,644 But you didn't win. 1174 01:03:34,744 --> 01:03:36,379 Two off the post, one off your head, 1175 01:03:36,479 --> 01:03:38,347 how many opportunities are you going to miss? 1176 01:03:47,256 --> 01:03:51,427 Wanting to be everything that you could be for yourself 1177 01:03:51,527 --> 01:03:54,397 and to make this man proud of you 1178 01:03:54,497 --> 01:03:56,265 and always feeling that you never 1179 01:03:56,365 --> 01:04:00,102 could achieve that is like a no-win situation. 1180 01:04:05,975 --> 01:04:09,512 So he ragefully, verbally, and psychologically, emotionally 1181 01:04:09,612 --> 01:04:12,481 abused you then, it sounds like. 1182 01:04:12,582 --> 01:04:14,584 Jeez, I think young Ross has got one on there too. 1183 01:04:14,684 --> 01:04:17,320 He does. 1184 01:04:17,420 --> 01:04:17,887 Yeah. 1185 01:04:17,987 --> 01:04:18,721 I had-- yeah. 1186 01:04:18,821 --> 01:04:19,956 There was quite a bit of that. 1187 01:04:20,056 --> 01:04:23,226 And see, that's the most common cause of child abuse, 1188 01:04:23,326 --> 01:04:26,796 except that it's more subtle, and it's harder to remember 1189 01:04:26,896 --> 01:04:28,965 and it's harder to put together and realize 1190 01:04:29,065 --> 01:04:33,302 that that was really abuse. 1191 01:04:33,402 --> 01:04:36,439 And what you likely experienced was an age regression, 1192 01:04:36,539 --> 01:04:42,011 and that's when we suddenly feel little, small, and totally 1193 01:04:42,111 --> 01:04:45,715 insignificant, and we zone out completely. 1194 01:04:48,985 --> 01:04:53,956 That's two big bits of trauma that you experienced, 1195 01:04:54,056 --> 01:04:56,292 it sounds like. 1196 01:04:56,392 --> 01:05:01,964 Father son traumatic experience and abused 1197 01:05:02,064 --> 01:05:03,733 mentally, emotionally, and physically 1198 01:05:03,833 --> 01:05:07,303 by the Canadian mental health system, 1199 01:05:07,403 --> 01:05:14,810 it sounds to me like you probably don't have bipolar. 1200 01:05:14,911 --> 01:05:17,146 So that I-- I wasn't dealing with 1201 01:05:17,246 --> 01:05:18,781 and I wasn't bipolar at all. 1202 01:05:18,881 --> 01:05:21,550 I was actually dealing with post-traumatic stress. 1203 01:05:21,651 --> 01:05:23,519 Correct. 1204 01:05:23,619 --> 01:05:26,489 Ah. 1205 01:05:26,589 --> 01:05:26,989 Hm. 1206 01:05:35,865 --> 01:05:36,432 They burn holes. 1207 01:05:36,532 --> 01:05:37,266 They burn holes. 1208 01:05:37,366 --> 01:05:37,934 They burn holes. 1209 01:05:45,408 --> 01:05:46,842 I just need you to do this, OK? 1210 01:06:03,592 --> 01:06:06,996 And my dad, I know he came from a really dysfunctional family. 1211 01:06:10,766 --> 01:06:13,135 And he was just this really sweet guy with this huge heart, 1212 01:06:13,235 --> 01:06:14,503 but he was troubled. 1213 01:06:18,341 --> 01:06:20,843 Looking back at the relationship with my father, 1214 01:06:20,943 --> 01:06:22,345 it makes sense to me that I may have 1215 01:06:22,445 --> 01:06:23,646 suffered post-traumatic stress. 1216 01:06:27,316 --> 01:06:29,685 And it's a condition I feel I can work through naturally. 1217 01:06:42,064 --> 01:06:45,401 It is really a special day today. 1218 01:06:45,501 --> 01:06:47,903 Today is the day we're actually driving to San Diego 1219 01:06:48,004 --> 01:06:49,638 to see Peter Levine. 1220 01:06:49,739 --> 01:06:54,143 Peter Levine is a person who's created somatic experiencing. 1221 01:06:56,879 --> 01:06:59,648 The core of this work is about trauma 1222 01:06:59,749 --> 01:07:02,118 and it's about releasing trauma from the body that actually 1223 01:07:02,218 --> 01:07:03,452 gets held and stuck in the body. 1224 01:07:03,552 --> 01:07:06,856 And there's a lot of anger still sitting in the body. 1225 01:07:06,956 --> 01:07:09,859 And it makes sense to me because what 1226 01:07:09,959 --> 01:07:12,995 I learned from a very young age, it wasn't OK to express anger. 1227 01:07:13,095 --> 01:07:15,831 And so, you know, when I would have situations like that, 1228 01:07:15,931 --> 01:07:18,667 I would just constantly swallow it. 1229 01:07:18,768 --> 01:07:21,037 What I'm realizing now is actually swallowing that energy 1230 01:07:21,137 --> 01:07:22,905 every time and that energy sits in the body 1231 01:07:23,005 --> 01:07:25,541 and can cause issues. 1232 01:07:31,981 --> 01:07:35,584 Do you want to say a little bit about your anger? 1233 01:07:35,684 --> 01:07:39,221 Growing up, it wasn't OK to express it. 1234 01:07:39,321 --> 01:07:41,457 Yeah. 1235 01:07:41,557 --> 01:07:44,026 And how is it to be with it now, with the aggression? 1236 01:07:46,796 --> 01:07:47,830 It's OK. 1237 01:07:47,930 --> 01:07:50,166 I still notice that it's a scary place to go to. 1238 01:07:50,266 --> 01:07:50,666 Yeah. 1239 01:07:53,436 --> 01:07:57,940 So let's just go inside for a little bit now, 1240 01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:02,745 and just explore your inner experience, 1241 01:08:02,845 --> 01:08:05,648 and just report what you're noticing. 1242 01:08:15,624 --> 01:08:20,563 That I just-- I just remember the terror. 1243 01:08:20,663 --> 01:08:23,766 Do you see yourself with your father? 1244 01:08:23,866 --> 01:08:24,266 Yeah. 1245 01:08:31,173 --> 01:08:31,907 Pay attention, Ross! 1246 01:08:46,555 --> 01:08:50,759 I see a very large man who was sitting in shame. 1247 01:08:56,732 --> 01:09:00,202 This is really important that you're 1248 01:09:00,302 --> 01:09:07,076 able to see that, the shame that's underneath this rage. 1249 01:09:13,516 --> 01:09:20,856 And now maybe see if you're able to allow an image 1250 01:09:20,956 --> 01:09:28,430 to come up to see your father around the age of seven, 1251 01:09:28,531 --> 01:09:31,767 to see him as a child around that same age. 1252 01:09:39,508 --> 01:09:40,376 I see it. 1253 01:09:40,476 --> 01:09:41,644 You see it. 1254 01:09:41,744 --> 01:09:46,515 Can you also imagine seeing you at that age 1255 01:09:46,615 --> 01:09:50,819 also together there with your father at age seven? 1256 01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:58,794 Yeah, we look like twins. 1257 01:09:58,894 --> 01:09:59,762 We're both at that age. 1258 01:09:59,862 --> 01:10:01,463 You look like twins. 1259 01:10:01,564 --> 01:10:04,967 Yeah, we're actually enjoying each other's company. 1260 01:10:08,003 --> 01:10:11,607 Yeah, really the enjoyment just to be together. 1261 01:10:11,707 --> 01:10:12,107 Yeah. 1262 01:10:15,144 --> 01:10:16,412 And he's encouraging. 1263 01:10:16,512 --> 01:10:17,980 Encouraging, yeah. 1264 01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:23,485 Yeah, he must've been really, really proud, proud of you. 1265 01:10:23,586 --> 01:10:26,155 I also noticed too just that exercise 1266 01:10:26,255 --> 01:10:29,024 of going back and having my seven-year-old play 1267 01:10:29,124 --> 01:10:30,926 with my father's seven-year-old was-- 1268 01:10:31,026 --> 01:10:33,996 there was a real shift in compassion. 1269 01:10:34,096 --> 01:10:35,564 Exactly. 1270 01:10:35,664 --> 01:10:37,066 Exactly. 1271 01:10:37,166 --> 01:10:39,368 It started to develop right when you could see him 1272 01:10:39,468 --> 01:10:44,340 as struggling with his own being shamed. 1273 01:10:44,440 --> 01:10:47,243 And you can certainly easily imagine his father 1274 01:10:47,343 --> 01:10:49,311 doing similar things or worse. 1275 01:10:49,411 --> 01:10:50,946 And his mother always told him how much 1276 01:10:51,046 --> 01:10:52,414 she hated him every day. 1277 01:10:52,514 --> 01:10:58,854 And his father was alcoholic and very abusive. 1278 01:10:58,954 --> 01:11:02,758 It's actually quite remarkable the man that he turned out-- 1279 01:11:02,858 --> 01:11:05,694 with his flaws-- considering what he went through. 1280 01:11:05,794 --> 01:11:09,632 Yes, right, and to know from that place of compassion 1281 01:11:09,732 --> 01:11:11,333 that he did the best that he could. 1282 01:11:11,433 --> 01:11:11,834 Yep. 1283 01:11:16,839 --> 01:11:18,440 Looks like you have another tool. 1284 01:11:18,540 --> 01:11:18,941 Mm-hmm. 1285 01:11:22,211 --> 01:11:24,146 Just got to have my final visit with Dr. Dempster 1286 01:11:24,246 --> 01:11:25,814 and get the results from all the work 1287 01:11:25,914 --> 01:11:27,816 that I've really been focused on doing with him. 1288 01:11:27,916 --> 01:11:32,054 And the results were just more than I could have asked for. 1289 01:11:32,154 --> 01:11:33,589 I've been feeling amazing, especially 1290 01:11:33,689 --> 01:11:34,990 these last few months. 1291 01:11:35,090 --> 01:11:37,726 More focus, more concentration, the ability to get things done 1292 01:11:37,826 --> 01:11:40,429 and stay focused for long periods of time, something 1293 01:11:40,529 --> 01:11:43,499 I never-- last year at this time wasn't even 1294 01:11:43,599 --> 01:11:44,366 a possibility for me. 1295 01:11:48,304 --> 01:11:49,772 The most important thing of all of it 1296 01:11:49,872 --> 01:11:53,242 has been about healing the stuff with my dad 1297 01:11:53,342 --> 01:11:54,910 and I, this incredible, incredible guy, 1298 01:11:55,010 --> 01:11:56,545 and we had our stuff to work out. 1299 01:11:56,645 --> 01:11:58,380 And so as I come to the end of this journey, 1300 01:11:58,480 --> 01:12:02,017 we're going to go back to where my sisters and I delivered 1301 01:12:02,117 --> 01:12:05,854 my father's ashes and his favorite fishing hole. 1302 01:12:05,954 --> 01:12:08,924 And so to get to go back there and pay tribute 1303 01:12:09,024 --> 01:12:13,595 and to go out in the ocean and have a moment is just-- gosh, 1304 01:12:13,696 --> 01:12:14,963 it's a dream come true. 1305 01:12:15,064 --> 01:12:17,166 I feel so blessed to be able to finish things off this way. 1306 01:12:17,266 --> 01:12:18,967 So I'm getting ready to go. 1307 01:12:19,068 --> 01:12:19,535 So that's it. 1308 01:12:19,635 --> 01:12:20,035 Bye. 1309 01:12:27,242 --> 01:12:29,978 As I look at root causes of what I went through, 1310 01:12:30,079 --> 01:12:33,148 what was causing symptoms, I think a big part of it 1311 01:12:33,248 --> 01:12:34,983 was the relationship with my father 1312 01:12:35,084 --> 01:12:37,853 and actually healing with my father. 1313 01:12:37,953 --> 01:12:40,823 This was a place where we spent a lot of time together. 1314 01:12:40,923 --> 01:12:43,726 It was kind of like a ritual coming up here. 1315 01:12:43,826 --> 01:12:46,028 And because this is where I feel him the strongest, 1316 01:12:46,128 --> 01:12:51,633 this would be a great place to have closure 1317 01:12:51,734 --> 01:12:53,202 and to be able to really move forward. 1318 01:12:55,971 --> 01:12:58,807 All the challenges, all the stuff I was working through, 1319 01:12:58,907 --> 01:13:01,777 all the anger that I had for so many years 1320 01:13:01,877 --> 01:13:03,612 doesn't feel like it's a part of me anymore. 1321 01:13:07,449 --> 01:13:09,318 It's surreal being back here. 1322 01:13:09,418 --> 01:13:13,889 It's a real feeling of wow, you know, we really did it. 1323 01:13:22,398 --> 01:13:25,234 My dad loved fishing, so we would come out here, 1324 01:13:25,334 --> 01:13:27,669 and he'd be up at like 5:30 AM. 1325 01:13:27,770 --> 01:13:29,304 And I would have a hard time waking up. 1326 01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:33,842 For a lot of the years when we were coming up here, 1327 01:13:33,942 --> 01:13:38,447 I was still on lithium in that foggy, drug-induced state. 1328 01:13:43,585 --> 01:13:44,987 I think because he loved it so much, 1329 01:13:45,087 --> 01:13:48,690 there's a part of me that just really got into it as well. 1330 01:13:48,791 --> 01:13:50,659 In the beginning, I found it really challenging 1331 01:13:50,759 --> 01:13:53,262 to be out there in the cold for so long. 1332 01:13:53,362 --> 01:13:54,797 But as time went on, I really started 1333 01:13:54,897 --> 01:13:56,064 to enjoy the ritual of it all. 1334 01:13:59,435 --> 01:14:01,670 Being out on the water for 12 hours, 1335 01:14:01,770 --> 01:14:03,105 there would be hours that would go 1336 01:14:03,205 --> 01:14:05,641 by where we wouldn't say a word. 1337 01:14:05,741 --> 01:14:07,176 It was almost meditative. 1338 01:14:10,979 --> 01:14:14,616 This is my favorite picture of us. 1339 01:14:14,716 --> 01:14:16,618 We're both kind of laughing and smiling, 1340 01:14:16,718 --> 01:14:20,589 and that's how I want to remember the relationship. 1341 01:14:43,512 --> 01:14:45,280 I know he knows what I'm doing right now. 1342 01:14:45,380 --> 01:14:53,956 And I know he-- he's in-- he's in-- I 1343 01:14:54,056 --> 01:14:55,057 know he's in full support. 1344 01:14:58,026 --> 01:15:00,662 Everything's on the right path, and it feels good, 1345 01:15:00,762 --> 01:15:03,732 and it's emotional. 1346 01:15:03,832 --> 01:15:04,233 Yeah. 1347 01:15:08,637 --> 01:15:10,005 [music playing] 99968

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