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Steve Fulcher was found guilty
of two counts of gross misconduct
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and received
two final written warnings.
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He chose not to appeal
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and made the decision to resign
from the force.
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I think we should all remember that.
He was not sacked.
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He chose to leave.
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There has been much speculation
by Fulcher
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and, consequently, the media,
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in relation to possible other
victims of Christopher Halliwell.
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We at Wiltshire Police
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made the ethical decision
to maintain a position
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of not rising to these sensational
and unsubstantiated claims
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because we believe
this would lead to a media frenzy.
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The murder of Becky Godden
has raised a number of issues,
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including the
Police And Criminal Evidence Act,
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which was introduced in 1984.
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I believe that,
if PACE is ethically followed
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and delivered in line
with the codes of practice,
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the right outcomes can be achieved
without evidence being inadmissible.
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FLURRY OF QUESTIONS
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OK, gentlemen,
I am now going to take you through
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the basic stages
of the intelligence cycle.
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Stage one
will be planning and direction,
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in which we evaluate opportunities
and decide on strategy.
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Er, do you want to...?
HE SPEAKS IN ARABIC
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Thank you.
So, that's planning and direction.
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Next, collection...
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LOUD EXPLOSION
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Is this the same one?
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Yeah.
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Christ...
Do you ever get used to that?
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OK. Er, as I was saying,
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stage two is collection.
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When?
Yesterday.
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I've told you before,
don't believe everything you read.
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It's perfectly safe. Don't worry.
It was on BBC News.
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There was a suicide bomb in Benghazi
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only about half a mile
from your barracks.
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It's news to me.
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How have you been?
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I'm really enjoying it.
I'm...
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..feeling pretty chilled, actually.
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And at least I'm wanted here.
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I know you couldn't care less,
but Debs Peach told me
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Pat Geenty's retired
for personal reasons
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and Mike Veale
is now Chief Constable.
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I just thought
you could do with a laugh.
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You know what?
You're right.
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I really...
couldn't care less any more.
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Well, that's all my news.
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We love you very much
and can't wait to see you.
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I've got to go because I'm meeting
the girls at the cinema tonight.
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OK.
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All right...
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Give them my love.
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I love you.
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Please, be careful.
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Mm-hm.
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LINE RINGS
Hello?
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Debs...
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What the fuck is going on?
I wondered when you'd find out.
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They've finally given Mike Veale
the top job?
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And he's already been talking
about you.
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Blaming you for the fact
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they still haven't charged Halliwell
over Becky Godden.
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They've had years
to come up with enough evidence.
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It's all wearing a bit thin, this,
isn't it, still blaming me?
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Yeah.
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What happened with that stuff
they dug up at the lake...
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..at Ramsbury?
60 items of clothing.
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You'd think they'd have assigned
a big team to it, wouldn't you?
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Oh, what...?
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They haven't done anything?
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Let's just say, apparently,
there hasn't been much progress.
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They've only just put
a small team on it.
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And it's being headed up by
Sean Memory,
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who's now a Detective
Superintendent, by the way.
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Do you know what, I think I'd rather
be here
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with mad Libyans
throwing bombs at me
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than anywhere near
Gable fucking Cross.
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How long are you out there for?
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I've got another six months.
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And don't mention anything
about bombs to Yvonne.
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Please.
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CHARLIE: Karen?
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Come on, love,
we'd better get going.
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Let's at least hear
what he's got to say.
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I've written an open letter
to Halliwell
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asking him to tell the truth
about what he did to Becky.
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I'm not expecting a response,
but I just...
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..have to try to keep her
in the public eye.
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Cos she doesn't matter
as much as Sian, you see?
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Because Sian was just a normal girl
who worked in an office.
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A good girl.
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But Becky was a bad girl.
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A bad little girl
who must have deserved it.Karen...
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Well, I know that's what
everyone thinks!
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Listen to me.
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I am convinced that, because of you,
the Police and Crime Commissioner
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is pressuring Wiltshire Police
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into looking for new evidence
to bring Halliwell to trial.
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So, whatever it is you're doing,
it's working.
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Oh, God...
There, you see?
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Oh, thank you very much.
Thank you.
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I won't give up.
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DOORBELL CHIMES
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Hi, Kev.
Hi, Elaine.
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How are you?
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Are you OK, love?
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I'm just feeling it a bit
at the moment.
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It's been hard.
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You get people in the pub
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who think they're trying to be nice,
rather than spiteful,
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but they say, "Don't you wish
you'd gone out with her that night?"
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I ask myself that all the time.
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You mustn't think about it
like that, Kev.
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She died because of Christopher
Halliwell, not anybody else.
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Certainly not you.
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Is that what you wanted
to see me about?
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Because that's easy to deal with.
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No, it's not that.
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Well, what, then, love?
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I'm seeing somebody else.
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Oh.
I'm sorry.
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Listen to me,
you must never apologise
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for getting on with your life.
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I feel so bloody guilty.
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No!
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Sian's not here.
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What are you supposed to do, pine
for her for the rest of your life?
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It's a comfort to me
that she knew what it was
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to share a life with someone,
that she was loved and cherished.
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But now she's gone and...
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..I'm glad for you
that you have someone else.
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I had to come here
and tell you about Emma
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before you found out
from anyone else.
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Is that her name, Emma?
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Why don't you bring her
to the wedding?
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Are you sure?
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Please.
It's important to me.
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Bring her, Kev.
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I can meet her before, if you like.
Take the pressure off.
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Thank you.
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And this is everything you have?
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Well, we do have some other leads
we're following up,
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but basically, yes, it is.
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I thought there were some items
recovered from a pond
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with Sian's boots.
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Does any of that relate to Becky?
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We did find some stuff, yeah.
But a lot of it had rotted.
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And we've not been able to match
any of it yet to Becky's clothing
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or descriptions of clothing
of any missing persons, so...
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I'd say we've got enough here
to re-arrest and charge
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and get it to court.
Mm-hm.
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But maybe not enough
to convince a jury to convict.
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Right.
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It's all consistent with Halliwell
having murdered Rebecca Godden.
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And this prostitute who links
the two of them is helpful.
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But nothing actually says he did it.
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The elephant in the room is,
of course, the confession.
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Well, that was ruled inadmissible,
so... Wrongly.
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In my opinion.
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But with a different judge,
a different set of circumstances,
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there may be a way we can
get it allowed this time round.
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How?
The key, ironically enough,
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is for Halliwell to come out
and say, "I didn't do it."
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Remember, he's never had to actually
state a defence for Rebecca Godden
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because the case was thrown out.
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He'll probably stay silent and
just challenge us to make our case,
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as is his right.
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But if he now tries to claim
he's never met her,
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or words to that effect,
that's the game-changer.
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His confession directly contradicts
this. So, it's unlikely, of course.
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Any lawyer worth his salt would
advise him to keep his mouth shut.
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But if he did, that gives us
the grounds to ask the judge
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to revisit the original ruling.
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If that happens, Steve Fulcher
would have to give evidence.
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And his relationship
with Wiltshire Police is not great,
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to say the least.
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It's by far the strongest evidence
we have.
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HE SIGHS
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DOORBELL CHIMES
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Mum, don't embarrass me, OK?
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I really like this one.
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Hey!
Hey...
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Mum...
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This is Kev.
Hiya.
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Hi, Kev.
Nice to meet you.
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And you.
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Do you want a cuppa?
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Please, yeah.
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Elaine...
This is Emma.
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Pleased to meet you, love.
Thanks.
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Sorry it's in
such difficult circumstances.
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Well, that's not your fault, is it?
Come on, sit down.
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Coffee?
Yeah, please.
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Two coffees, please.
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So...
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How did you meet?
Tell me everything.
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Erm, just round a friend's house.
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We got chatting
and it sort of clicked.
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We went out a few times.
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I done her a chicken pasta
and that sealed the deal.
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Kev's a really good cook.
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You're not so bad.
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She's brilliant, Elaine.
He's just being kind, honestly.
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So, how's the wedding stuff going,
then, Elaine?
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Getting there. Actually,
I'm just going to go to the loo.
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SHE SOBS QUIETLY
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SHE STARTS TO SOB LOUDLY
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DOOR SWINGS OPEN
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LOUD SOBBING
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SOBBING CONTINUES
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Christopher John Halliwell,
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I'm arresting you
for the murder of Rebecca Godden,
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contrary to common law.
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You do not have to say anything,
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but it may harm your defence
if you do not mention,
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when questioned, something
which you later rely on in court.
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Anything you do say
may be given in evidence.
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Do you understand?
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HE SNIFFS
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Mm.
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OK, I'm going to take you now
to Worcester Police Station,
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where you will be interviewed
in the presence of a solicitor.
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I don't want a solicitor.
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Pardon?
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I don't want a solicitor.
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I want to see
what you have to say first.
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Who's in charge of this case?
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That would be Detective
Superintendent Sean Memory.
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If...
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..I wrap this up in...
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..in the next few hours,
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any other charges against me...
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..various things in the past...
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You're talking about car thefts,
break-ins, bits and pieces?
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Some more... serious.
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Will clearing this up
be enough to stop everything else?
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If Mr Memory is listening,
the ball is in his court.
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Get a print set up. If we can get
a confession now, that's it...
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..no need for Fulcher.
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Now, what I'm saying there, Chris,
and I've signed it at the bottom...
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..is that I lead the investigation
into Becky Godden.
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I'm not aware of any other
allegations against you.
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And I'm not investigating you for
any other offence, apart from Becky.
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If I clear this up, I don't want you
coming back every two years saying,
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"What about this?
What about that?"
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This interview is about one matter
and one matter only.
251
00:14:20,354 --> 00:14:22,729
But at this point in time...
252
00:14:22,730 --> 00:14:25,642
..I'm not aware of any other
allegations against you.
253
00:14:34,114 --> 00:14:39,049
OK.
254
00:14:39,050 --> 00:14:41,353
Erm...
255
00:14:41,354 --> 00:14:45,001
Actually,
before I do anything else...
256
00:14:45,002 --> 00:14:49,033
..I think I'd better get
my solicitor to check it first.
257
00:14:49,034 --> 00:14:53,641
Is that OK?
258
00:14:53,642 --> 00:14:56,521
No, that's fine.
259
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HE DROPS THE PEN ON THE TABLE
260
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He's got no intention
of clearing anything up.
261
00:15:03,242 --> 00:15:05,793
He's playing with us.
262
00:15:05,794 --> 00:15:13,033
He just wanted to know
what we've got.
263
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SPOON TINKLES ON A GLASS
264
00:15:16,354 --> 00:15:19,073
Ladies and gentlemen...
265
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..my wife and I...
266
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GUESTS: Whoooo!
267
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APPLAUSE
268
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..would like to thank you all
sincerely for coming.
269
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It really is...
270
00:15:28,994 --> 00:15:32,617
It's wonderful to have you all
with us on this special day.
271
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And I'd like to thank the children,
272
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my three and Elaine's,
273
00:15:37,034 --> 00:15:38,953
for being there for us...
274
00:15:38,954 --> 00:15:40,681
..through everything.
275
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And of course...
276
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..I must mention Sian.
277
00:15:46,250 --> 00:15:50,113
Now, we all remember those dark days
when she went missing.
278
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When there was nothing we could do
but sit and hope.
279
00:15:56,426 --> 00:15:59,305
Yeah, we'd get little bits
and pieces of information,
280
00:15:59,306 --> 00:16:02,377
but not the message
that we really wanted to hear.
281
00:16:02,378 --> 00:16:05,313
That she was safe and well...
282
00:16:05,314 --> 00:16:06,809
..and coming home.
283
00:16:22,594 --> 00:16:26,273
What was all that about?
I asked him, Jackie.
284
00:16:26,274 --> 00:16:28,681
I said, "Please, don't talk
about Sian too much."
285
00:16:28,682 --> 00:16:31,177
But he had it all planned out
in his head what he wanted to do.
286
00:16:31,178 --> 00:16:34,441
He's planned everything today.
He likes to be...
287
00:16:34,442 --> 00:16:38,113
..in control.
He likes to organise everything.
288
00:16:38,114 --> 00:16:41,545
He likes to take over, more like.
I care about him a lot. I do.
289
00:16:41,546 --> 00:16:46,433
He is a good person.
290
00:16:46,434 --> 00:16:51,721
I don't want to be on my own,
Jackie. I want to be married.
291
00:16:51,722 --> 00:16:58,913
I know.
292
00:16:58,914 --> 00:17:00,833
Halliwell has parted company
with the lawyers
293
00:17:00,834 --> 00:17:02,473
who represented him
at the first trial.
294
00:17:02,474 --> 00:17:04,777
Really?
Why would he do that?
295
00:17:04,778 --> 00:17:06,593
Well, it would seem he has decided
296
00:17:06,594 --> 00:17:09,793
he wants to represent himself
in court.
297
00:17:09,794 --> 00:17:12,073
Bloody hell.
298
00:17:12,074 --> 00:17:13,417
Precisely.
299
00:17:13,418 --> 00:17:16,873
So, this morning, Halliwell finally
issued an outline of his defence,
300
00:17:16,874 --> 00:17:18,601
which he's composed himself.
301
00:17:18,602 --> 00:17:20,353
We've been asking for it for weeks.
302
00:17:20,354 --> 00:17:24,193
It says simply he has no knowledge
of the death of Rebecca Godden,
303
00:17:24,194 --> 00:17:31,081
nor any information
regarding details of how she died.
304
00:17:31,082 --> 00:17:33,793
I think we have our game-changer.
305
00:17:33,794 --> 00:17:35,881
The confession now comes into play.
306
00:17:35,882 --> 00:17:39,011
We can ask the new judge
to reconsider admitting it.
307
00:17:47,234 --> 00:17:50,473
An email came through this morning
from the CPS
308
00:17:50,474 --> 00:17:53,353
saying that Wiltshire Police
have discovered new evidence
309
00:17:53,354 --> 00:17:55,657
against Halliwell
for Becky Godden's murder
310
00:17:55,658 --> 00:17:57,633
and that he's been charged
as a result.
311
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But in the next breath they say
312
00:17:59,554 --> 00:18:01,993
they want to try and reintroduce
the confession evidence.
313
00:18:01,994 --> 00:18:04,681
You're joking? Well, do you want
an even bigger laugh?
314
00:18:04,682 --> 00:18:06,793
If they do manage
to get it ruled admissible,
315
00:18:06,794 --> 00:18:09,673
they want me to come back
and give evidence at the trial.
316
00:18:09,674 --> 00:18:13,513
After all they've done to you,
now they want you to help them out?
317
00:18:13,514 --> 00:18:17,161
The new evidence obviously
can't be that strong, can it?
318
00:18:17,162 --> 00:18:19,081
It's not ever going to end, is it?
319
00:18:19,082 --> 00:18:21,793
For fuck's sake...
320
00:18:21,794 --> 00:18:24,073
Oh, hello.
Come in.
321
00:18:24,074 --> 00:18:26,185
FRONT DOOR CLOSES
322
00:18:26,186 --> 00:18:27,553
Hi, Karen.
Hello.
323
00:18:27,554 --> 00:18:29,833
Come in, sit down.
No, no, I can't stay for long.
324
00:18:29,834 --> 00:18:31,393
I, erm...
325
00:18:31,394 --> 00:18:33,153
I just came to tell you
that we are hopeful
326
00:18:33,154 --> 00:18:35,785
of finally bringing charges
against Halliwell over Becky.
327
00:18:35,786 --> 00:18:38,113
SHE GASPS
He's been arrested.
328
00:18:38,114 --> 00:18:40,833
We're still working
to strengthen the case against him.
329
00:18:40,834 --> 00:18:43,081
But we think we can go to trial.
330
00:18:43,082 --> 00:18:46,345
But how?
We've been working hard on the case
331
00:18:46,346 --> 00:18:49,473
and we've dug up
plenty of new evidence.
332
00:18:49,474 --> 00:18:52,681
Can we know what it is?
I can't say too much now,
333
00:18:52,682 --> 00:18:54,601
but the evidence is compelling.
334
00:18:54,602 --> 00:18:57,673
There's a little way to go yet,
but we're optimistic.
335
00:18:57,674 --> 00:19:00,993
Oh, that is so fantastic!
336
00:19:00,994 --> 00:19:02,913
We'd almost given up hope,
hadn't we?
337
00:19:02,914 --> 00:19:06,121
I will, of course, be in touch
if there's any more news, OK?
338
00:19:06,122 --> 00:19:08,673
Thanks for coming to tell us, Sean.
339
00:19:08,674 --> 00:19:10,921
Well, it's important
we're all on the same page, right?
340
00:19:10,922 --> 00:19:13,953
Well, thanks a million, Sean.
Yeah, thanks.
341
00:19:13,954 --> 00:19:16,681
FRONT DOOR OPENS
342
00:19:16,682 --> 00:19:19,561
FRONT DOOR CLOSES
343
00:19:19,562 --> 00:19:21,313
Oh, Charlie, I've...
344
00:19:21,314 --> 00:19:23,233
I've got a knot in my tummy.
345
00:19:23,234 --> 00:19:26,753
But why? We've just had the best
bloody news you could hope for.
346
00:19:26,754 --> 00:19:28,833
But what if it doesn't work again?
347
00:19:28,834 --> 00:19:31,081
What if another ruling
goes against us or something?
348
00:19:31,082 --> 00:19:33,385
Because, if we don't get him
this time, we never will.
349
00:19:33,386 --> 00:19:38,761
Always the gloomiest way
of looking at it, that's you!
350
00:19:38,762 --> 00:19:41,641
Yeah, well, I've had that smashed
into me, haven't I, over the years?
351
00:19:41,642 --> 00:19:45,953
There hasn't been much
to be optimistic about, has there?
352
00:19:45,954 --> 00:19:48,937
Elaine, look at where you are
right now.
353
00:19:48,938 --> 00:19:50,913
What are you doing?
354
00:19:50,914 --> 00:19:54,593
I mean, you've given up your job,
you've even sold your car.
355
00:19:54,594 --> 00:19:57,001
Pete prefers to drive.
356
00:19:57,002 --> 00:19:59,233
SHE SIGHS
357
00:19:59,234 --> 00:20:03,145
It's not right, Elaine.
It's got to stop.
358
00:20:03,146 --> 00:20:04,681
It's just you're not you any more.
359
00:20:04,682 --> 00:20:07,561
You don't even behave like you
any more.
360
00:20:07,562 --> 00:20:10,825
To be honest, I feel like I've had
the stuffing knocked out of me.
361
00:20:10,826 --> 00:20:13,321
I can't stand
any sort of confrontation.
362
00:20:13,322 --> 00:20:16,673
There's just so much tension
in the house.
363
00:20:16,674 --> 00:20:18,860
I feel like I've lost
all my confidence.
364
00:20:29,474 --> 00:20:31,271
Thanks.
365
00:20:45,634 --> 00:20:46,921
Hi.
366
00:20:46,922 --> 00:20:54,217
Do you mind?
367
00:20:54,218 --> 00:20:56,905
I just think I'm being an idiot
for coming out and helping them.
368
00:20:56,906 --> 00:20:58,825
You're not helping them out, though,
are you?
369
00:20:58,826 --> 00:21:00,033
This isn't about them, is it?
370
00:21:00,034 --> 00:21:02,593
Well, they deserve to be left
on the beach, with the tide out,
371
00:21:02,594 --> 00:21:05,161
looking like the fucking idiots
they are.
372
00:21:05,162 --> 00:21:07,358
But Karen doesn't.
373
00:21:08,146 --> 00:21:09,600
But Karen doesn't.
374
00:21:17,066 --> 00:21:22,913
You're doing the right thing.
375
00:21:22,914 --> 00:21:24,349
Thank you.
376
00:21:51,626 --> 00:21:53,353
Here.
Cheers, Aiden.
377
00:21:53,354 --> 00:21:55,873
Here.
378
00:21:55,874 --> 00:21:57,313
Thanks, love.
379
00:21:57,314 --> 00:21:58,921
We're going to go.
380
00:21:58,922 --> 00:22:00,841
Don't you think it's better
to wait and face him,
381
00:22:00,842 --> 00:22:03,145
rather than doing it like this?
382
00:22:03,146 --> 00:22:04,873
I told him I was moving out today.
383
00:22:04,874 --> 00:22:06,985
Yeah, but he didn't believe you,
did he?
384
00:22:06,986 --> 00:22:10,825
Look, I couldn't honestly handle him
trying to talk me out of it.
385
00:22:10,826 --> 00:22:13,153
This way, it's much better.
It's not Pete's fault.
386
00:22:13,154 --> 00:22:17,545
I should never have married him.
So, why did you?
387
00:22:17,546 --> 00:22:19,273
I just thought,
after what's happened,
388
00:22:19,274 --> 00:22:21,633
I needed someone
to take control of my life for me.
389
00:22:21,634 --> 00:22:26,433
It's the worst thing
I could have done, all right?
390
00:22:26,434 --> 00:22:28,112
Oh, nice one.
SHE SIGHS
391
00:22:36,994 --> 00:22:39,241
SHE KNOCKS
Mr Fulcher to see you.
392
00:22:39,242 --> 00:22:40,585
Thank you.
393
00:22:40,586 --> 00:22:42,753
Sean.
Good to see you, Steve.
394
00:22:42,754 --> 00:22:44,833
And you.
395
00:22:44,834 --> 00:22:46,153
Mr Fulcher.
Hi.
396
00:22:46,154 --> 00:22:48,841
Take a seat, please.
397
00:22:48,842 --> 00:22:50,761
I see you've got a suntan.
398
00:22:50,762 --> 00:22:54,601
I see you've got
Detective Superintendent.
399
00:22:54,602 --> 00:22:56,713
Thanks for coming in today.
We just wanted to give you
400
00:22:56,714 --> 00:22:57,953
some background on the trial.
401
00:22:57,954 --> 00:23:00,169
Right, so,
there's definitely going to be one?
402
00:23:00,170 --> 00:23:03,553
Yes. And we are definitely going
to need you to give evidence.
403
00:23:03,554 --> 00:23:06,121
Well, I'm all ears.
404
00:23:06,122 --> 00:23:08,673
Well, the pre-trial concluded
this afternoon
405
00:23:08,674 --> 00:23:11,305
and the new judge,
Mr Justice Griffith Williams,
406
00:23:11,306 --> 00:23:13,801
has ruled that the confession
made to you by Halliwell
407
00:23:13,802 --> 00:23:16,105
will be admissible as evidence.
408
00:23:16,106 --> 00:23:19,233
He was quite scathing
of Mrs Justice Cox,
409
00:23:19,234 --> 00:23:21,865
who ruled against you last time.
Mm-hm.
410
00:23:21,866 --> 00:23:25,321
Halliwell tried to have it excluded
again, based on her original ruling,
411
00:23:25,322 --> 00:23:28,585
but the new judge said that
the confession was made voluntarily.
412
00:23:28,586 --> 00:23:30,753
In his view,
there was no oppression.
413
00:23:30,754 --> 00:23:35,553
And to not allow it
would offend good sense.
414
00:23:35,554 --> 00:23:38,185
You see, I thought I'd lost
my career because other people,
415
00:23:38,186 --> 00:23:41,473
who should have known better,
decided I'd done something terrible.
416
00:23:41,474 --> 00:23:43,233
But now it
seems, apparently, I haven't.
417
00:23:43,234 --> 00:23:46,441
Look, I'd have understood
if you'd told us to fuck off.
418
00:23:46,442 --> 00:23:52,033
Yeah,
that was never going to happen.
419
00:23:52,034 --> 00:23:54,753
Hm...
420
00:23:54,754 --> 00:23:56,353
So, how does
your new Chief Constable
421
00:23:56,354 --> 00:23:58,453
feel about me
being his star witness, then?
422
00:24:08,486 --> 00:24:12,077
It's Elaine.
423
00:24:12,078 --> 00:24:14,573
Mrs Edwards,
you've been waiting for four years.
424
00:24:14,574 --> 00:24:17,285
How are you feeling about the trial?
Well, it's difficult.
425
00:24:17,286 --> 00:24:18,885
But we hope
it's going to go our way.
426
00:24:18,886 --> 00:24:23,213
How do you feel about Halliwell
representing himself, Mrs Edwards?
427
00:24:23,214 --> 00:24:26,119
REPORTERS SHOUT QUESTIONS
428
00:25:44,046 --> 00:25:47,525
When was the last time
you saw your daughter, Mrs Edwards?
429
00:25:47,526 --> 00:25:51,205
December 2002.
430
00:25:51,206 --> 00:25:53,645
She would have been 21
the following April.
431
00:25:53,646 --> 00:25:55,949
And I always thought
she'd turn up for her 21st birthday,
432
00:25:55,950 --> 00:25:58,445
but she never did.
433
00:25:58,446 --> 00:26:04,013
I got a card from her
every Mother's Day, without fail.
434
00:26:04,014 --> 00:26:08,045
But from 2003 onwards,
I never got one.
435
00:26:08,046 --> 00:26:11,693
Becky was very petite.
436
00:26:11,694 --> 00:26:15,365
She was only 4'11" tall and she
could wear children's clothing.
437
00:26:15,366 --> 00:26:20,005
You know, like,
for 12 to 14-year-olds.
438
00:26:20,006 --> 00:26:24,485
She was just a child, really.
439
00:26:24,486 --> 00:26:28,973
Miss X, you have been granted
anonymity today.
440
00:26:28,974 --> 00:26:32,237
I understand you have a history
of drug abuse and prostitution,
441
00:26:32,238 --> 00:26:34,733
which is how you met Rebecca Godden.
442
00:26:34,734 --> 00:26:36,653
That's correct, yes.
443
00:26:36,654 --> 00:26:38,573
She was a friend of mine.
444
00:26:38,574 --> 00:26:40,965
But you have turned your life around
since then
445
00:26:40,966 --> 00:26:45,101
and are now married
with two children.
446
00:26:45,102 --> 00:26:46,085
Yes.
447
00:26:46,086 --> 00:26:48,805
And my husband knows nothing
about my past life.
448
00:26:48,806 --> 00:26:50,669
And yet you still came along today,
449
00:26:50,670 --> 00:26:54,405
even though your past could have
been revealed to all and sundry.
450
00:26:54,406 --> 00:26:57,773
I thought it was important.
451
00:26:57,774 --> 00:27:00,653
I'm very grateful to you.
452
00:27:00,654 --> 00:27:05,453
Please, stay where you are.
453
00:27:05,454 --> 00:27:08,005
Mr Halliwell...
454
00:27:08,006 --> 00:27:12,557
According to you...
455
00:27:12,558 --> 00:27:15,053
..I was besotted
with Rebecca Godden.
456
00:27:15,054 --> 00:27:16,397
Correct.
457
00:27:16,398 --> 00:27:18,565
Even though
I've never met her before.
458
00:27:18,566 --> 00:27:21,445
SHE SCOFFS
459
00:27:21,446 --> 00:27:25,229
Sometimes you even give her money
to stop her going with other men.
460
00:27:25,230 --> 00:27:28,109
I remember, one night,
you picked me up for sex,
461
00:27:28,110 --> 00:27:30,245
you knew she was my mate
and you said,
462
00:27:30,246 --> 00:27:33,765
"Don't tell Becks about this."
463
00:27:33,766 --> 00:27:36,365
Right, so I'm supposed
to have had sex with you, too, yeah?
464
00:27:36,366 --> 00:27:37,765
Yes.
465
00:27:37,766 --> 00:27:41,933
Twice.
466
00:27:41,934 --> 00:27:43,277
HE SCOFFS
467
00:27:43,278 --> 00:27:45,005
You see, I think there's a chance...
468
00:27:45,006 --> 00:27:46,733
..that you could be mistaken.
469
00:27:46,734 --> 00:27:48,965
So, take a long, hard look at me
470
00:27:48,966 --> 00:27:51,365
and confirm that the person
you're talking about is me.
471
00:27:51,366 --> 00:27:53,069
Because this is serious.
472
00:27:53,070 --> 00:27:54,605
Is this a joke?
473
00:27:54,606 --> 00:28:00,365
I am one hundred million percent
sure it's you.
474
00:28:00,366 --> 00:28:04,973
If we've had sex together twice...
475
00:28:04,974 --> 00:28:08,237
..what colour are my eyes?
476
00:28:08,238 --> 00:28:09,965
I don't know.
477
00:28:09,966 --> 00:28:11,844
What colour were Becky's?
478
00:28:21,486 --> 00:28:23,405
We compared soil found on the spade
479
00:28:23,406 --> 00:28:26,093
in the garage at Christopher
Halliwell's home address
480
00:28:26,094 --> 00:28:28,397
with a sample of soil from the field
481
00:28:28,398 --> 00:28:30,893
where Rebecca Godden's body
was found.
482
00:28:30,894 --> 00:28:32,485
Becky was outside the club
483
00:28:32,486 --> 00:28:35,309
having some sort of argument
with this taxi driver.
484
00:28:35,310 --> 00:28:38,573
He was shouting at her.
It went on for quite a while.
485
00:28:38,574 --> 00:28:41,125
I'm pretty sure I heard him call her
"a fucking slag",
486
00:28:41,126 --> 00:28:43,373
or words like that.
487
00:28:43,374 --> 00:28:46,885
This row with the taxi driver,
when was that?
488
00:28:46,886 --> 00:28:49,925
Er, just after New Year 2003.
489
00:28:49,926 --> 00:28:52,485
I'm pretty sure it was the 3rd,
early in the morning.
490
00:28:52,486 --> 00:28:55,853
In the end, the driver somehow
persuaded her to get in the back
491
00:28:55,854 --> 00:28:58,349
and they drove off.
492
00:28:58,350 --> 00:29:00,325
Did you get a look at the driver?
493
00:29:00,326 --> 00:29:02,085
Not clearly, no.
494
00:29:02,086 --> 00:29:05,261
And you never saw Rebecca again
after that?
495
00:29:05,262 --> 00:29:06,413
No.
496
00:29:06,414 --> 00:29:07,565
Never.
497
00:29:07,566 --> 00:29:10,085
Nor indeed have we been able
to find anybody else who has,
498
00:29:10,086 --> 00:29:13,765
after that night.
499
00:29:13,766 --> 00:29:15,053
Mr Halliwell...
500
00:29:15,054 --> 00:29:17,933
Do you have any questions?
501
00:29:17,934 --> 00:29:20,429
Yeah, erm...
502
00:29:20,430 --> 00:29:23,365
The taxi she drove off in,
503
00:29:23,366 --> 00:29:27,917
did it have a white illuminated sign
on it saying, well, "Taxi"?
504
00:29:27,918 --> 00:29:31,205
Yeah, it did.
505
00:29:31,206 --> 00:29:32,965
Thank you.
506
00:29:32,966 --> 00:29:36,173
Because, at that time, my car
did not have a light on the roof.
507
00:29:36,174 --> 00:29:45,773
So, thank you.
508
00:29:45,774 --> 00:29:47,525
Thank you.
509
00:29:47,526 --> 00:29:49,613
The court has now broken
until tomorrow.
510
00:29:49,614 --> 00:29:55,373
If you could be back here
for 9:00am? Fine.
511
00:29:55,374 --> 00:29:58,061
I'd heard most of that evidence
before. Hadn't you?
512
00:29:58,062 --> 00:29:59,597
Mm.
513
00:29:59,598 --> 00:30:02,725
We had all that back when Steve was
around, as far as I can remember.
514
00:30:02,726 --> 00:30:04,973
So, what have they been doing
for the last five years?
515
00:30:04,974 --> 00:30:08,005
All this new evidence!
All they've got is Steve.
516
00:30:08,006 --> 00:30:10,405
And he must be so nervous,
after all this time,
517
00:30:10,406 --> 00:30:13,997
wondering what Halliwell
is going to say.
518
00:30:13,998 --> 00:30:15,940
ELECTRIC TOOTHBRUSH WHIRS
519
00:30:26,862 --> 00:30:28,205
Tell us again, Mr Fulcher,
520
00:30:28,206 --> 00:30:31,085
what Christopher Halliwell told you
that day about the second victim.
521
00:30:31,086 --> 00:30:33,005
He said he had taken a prostitute
522
00:30:33,006 --> 00:30:35,693
from the Manchester Road area
of Swindon,
523
00:30:35,694 --> 00:30:38,085
had sex with her
in the back of his taxi...
524
00:30:38,086 --> 00:30:40,325
..and then strangled her.
525
00:30:40,326 --> 00:30:43,205
I said, "Was it similar to Sian?"
He said, "Pretty much."
526
00:30:43,206 --> 00:30:45,125
I asked
if there were any other victims,
527
00:30:45,126 --> 00:30:46,637
I said, "Is it just these two?"
528
00:30:46,638 --> 00:30:48,941
And he replied, "Isn't that enough?"
529
00:30:48,942 --> 00:30:51,525
OK, let's pause there.
530
00:30:51,526 --> 00:30:54,579
I'm sure Mr Halliwell
has some questions for you.
531
00:31:05,454 --> 00:31:08,165
I couldn't care less...
532
00:31:08,166 --> 00:31:12,365
..about not being cautioned by you.
533
00:31:12,366 --> 00:31:15,845
Sorry? It didn't bother me
in the slightest that...
534
00:31:15,846 --> 00:31:17,933
..my rights were breached.
535
00:31:17,934 --> 00:31:20,325
When I was arrested on 24th March,
536
00:31:20,326 --> 00:31:23,309
that was the first day
of a life sentence.
537
00:31:23,310 --> 00:31:25,445
HE CLEARS HIS THROAT
I knew that.
538
00:31:25,446 --> 00:31:29,125
So, after I took you to Sian's body,
everything after that...
539
00:31:29,126 --> 00:31:32,717
..well, that was about pure revenge.
540
00:31:32,718 --> 00:31:34,445
I don't quite follow you.
541
00:31:34,446 --> 00:31:37,517
Well, I didn't know about PACE
and codes and all that,
542
00:31:37,518 --> 00:31:40,397
but I knew enough to know that,
if I asked to speak to a solicitor,
543
00:31:40,398 --> 00:31:43,853
then everything else should stop
until that's been given to me.
544
00:31:43,854 --> 00:31:45,125
I knew that much.
545
00:31:45,126 --> 00:31:47,693
I asked you six or seven times,
546
00:31:47,694 --> 00:31:51,149
it's all been recorded,
and you kept refusing me.
547
00:31:51,150 --> 00:31:53,285
I knew that was wrong.
548
00:31:53,286 --> 00:31:55,949
I didn't care because I knew
I could turn it to my advantage.
549
00:31:55,950 --> 00:31:58,725
So, all that whole story...
550
00:31:58,726 --> 00:32:01,133
..about burying a girl in a field...
551
00:32:01,134 --> 00:32:02,669
HE SCOFFS
552
00:32:02,670 --> 00:32:04,205
..it was just a pack of lies.
553
00:32:04,206 --> 00:32:06,893
Mr Halliwell, if you are alleging
554
00:32:06,894 --> 00:32:09,605
that revenge played a part
in what happened that day,
555
00:32:09,606 --> 00:32:11,693
you must explain yourself.
556
00:32:11,694 --> 00:32:13,613
Yeah, in a minute, Your Honour.
557
00:32:13,614 --> 00:32:18,245
I had no idea if there was a body
buried in that field in Eastleach.
558
00:32:18,246 --> 00:32:22,085
How could I if I'd never met
Rebecca Godden in my life?
559
00:32:22,086 --> 00:32:24,173
What happened was,
at the end of 2001,
560
00:32:24,174 --> 00:32:26,093
I started driving
these fellas around.
561
00:32:26,094 --> 00:32:28,397
Well...
562
00:32:28,398 --> 00:32:30,405
..drug dealers, they were.
563
00:32:30,406 --> 00:32:33,389
But I never asked them any questions
and they seemed to trust me.
564
00:32:33,390 --> 00:32:37,125
Now, one night,
at the end of March time 2003,
565
00:32:37,126 --> 00:32:40,325
they directed me out to this field
in Eastleach.
566
00:32:40,326 --> 00:32:42,029
And they carried this big holdall
567
00:32:42,030 --> 00:32:44,005
out of the boot of my taxi
into the field.
568
00:32:44,006 --> 00:32:46,253
Now, I drove off.
I came back for them later.
569
00:32:46,254 --> 00:32:48,645
I never asked them
what they were doing.
570
00:32:48,646 --> 00:32:51,437
A few months later,
I was driving one of them around
571
00:32:51,438 --> 00:32:52,973
and he was drunk, right?
572
00:32:52,974 --> 00:32:55,525
And he tells me
that they had buried...
573
00:32:55,526 --> 00:32:59,845
..a prostitute in that field
that night.
574
00:32:59,846 --> 00:33:02,381
Now, I thought he was messing
575
00:33:02,382 --> 00:33:04,301
because he said it
like it was nothing.
576
00:33:04,302 --> 00:33:07,565
So, when I took you to that field
in Eastleach,
577
00:33:07,566 --> 00:33:11,525
I had no idea
if there was a body buried there.
578
00:33:11,526 --> 00:33:13,605
And I can prove it.
579
00:33:13,606 --> 00:33:16,805
How deep down
did I say the body was buried?
580
00:33:16,806 --> 00:33:19,469
You said five feet.
That's right.
581
00:33:19,470 --> 00:33:21,773
And how deep was it actually buried?
582
00:33:21,774 --> 00:33:23,885
Er, about eight inches,
583
00:33:23,886 --> 00:33:26,085
cos the bedrock
was so close to the surface.
584
00:33:26,086 --> 00:33:27,045
Yeah.
585
00:33:27,046 --> 00:33:30,797
So, why would I say five feet
if it was only eight inches?
586
00:33:30,798 --> 00:33:33,765
Well, you also couldn't be sure
when you had murdered Becky.
587
00:33:33,766 --> 00:33:35,685
Cos I never did,
cos I'd never met her.
588
00:33:35,686 --> 00:33:38,885
You said it was in 2003, 2004
or 2005.
589
00:33:38,886 --> 00:33:41,933
So what I surmised...
590
00:33:41,934 --> 00:33:44,813
..and from you getting wrong
the depth that she was buried,
591
00:33:44,814 --> 00:33:47,501
was that you had other victims
that you had buried,
592
00:33:47,502 --> 00:33:49,997
victims that we don't yet
know about,
593
00:33:49,998 --> 00:33:52,685
and that you became confused
about which was which.
594
00:33:52,686 --> 00:33:55,565
That's an absolute pack of lies.
And you know that.
595
00:33:55,566 --> 00:33:59,405
No, I know that you told me
you had murdered a prostitute
596
00:33:59,406 --> 00:34:01,445
and buried her in that field.
597
00:34:01,446 --> 00:34:02,885
I believed...
598
00:34:02,886 --> 00:34:05,605
..in that moment,
that you were contrite
599
00:34:05,606 --> 00:34:08,645
and that you wanted to unburden
yourself. That's ridiculous.
600
00:34:08,646 --> 00:34:11,693
You said you could take me
to the exact spot in that field
601
00:34:11,694 --> 00:34:13,037
where she was buried.
602
00:34:13,038 --> 00:34:14,957
In fact, you were a few feet out,
603
00:34:14,958 --> 00:34:17,453
but we later discovered
the remains of Rebecca Godden
604
00:34:17,454 --> 00:34:20,333
in that field
that you had directed us to.
605
00:34:20,334 --> 00:34:24,365
Well, I only said that because
I wanted to get you in the shit.
606
00:34:24,366 --> 00:34:27,525
We need to know why, Mr Halliwell.
607
00:34:27,526 --> 00:34:29,445
Because he threatened my daughters.
608
00:34:29,446 --> 00:34:31,661
I did what?
You threatened my daughters.
609
00:34:31,662 --> 00:34:33,285
And nobody threatens my kids!
610
00:34:33,286 --> 00:34:35,885
Absolute rubbish. That's
why I took you to that field.
611
00:34:35,886 --> 00:34:38,085
Cos I knew for certain,
if anything was found there,
612
00:34:38,086 --> 00:34:39,533
then any third-rate solicitor
613
00:34:39,534 --> 00:34:42,413
would make mincemeat of the fact
I hadn't been cautioned
614
00:34:42,414 --> 00:34:45,125
and you'd be dropped right in it.
615
00:34:45,126 --> 00:34:49,605
But you haven't told us
what this threat was.
616
00:34:49,606 --> 00:34:51,053
I'm not going to say.
617
00:34:51,054 --> 00:34:53,165
You're not going to say?
618
00:34:53,166 --> 00:34:55,085
No.
619
00:34:55,086 --> 00:34:59,693
Don't you think it's rather
important to tell us what it was?
620
00:34:59,694 --> 00:35:01,997
Well, there's no point.
621
00:35:01,998 --> 00:35:05,645
I can't prove it.
It's my word against his.
622
00:35:05,646 --> 00:35:06,885
I see.
623
00:35:06,886 --> 00:35:12,645
So, do you have any more questions
for Mr Fulcher?
624
00:35:12,646 --> 00:35:15,685
Er...
625
00:35:15,686 --> 00:35:18,125
No.
626
00:35:18,126 --> 00:35:19,525
Very well.
627
00:35:19,526 --> 00:35:21,285
This might be a good time
to take a break.
628
00:35:21,286 --> 00:35:23,501
Er, just one more thing.
Erm...
629
00:35:23,502 --> 00:35:27,386
It was a pleasure ruining
your career, you corrupt bastard.
630
00:35:48,754 --> 00:35:53,145
"I do solemnly, sincerely
and truly declare and affirm
631
00:35:53,146 --> 00:35:55,313
"that the evidence I give
shall be the truth,
632
00:35:55,314 --> 00:35:58,952
"the whole truth
and nothing but the truth."
633
00:36:12,754 --> 00:36:17,721
You really loathe Mr Fulcher,
don't you?
634
00:36:17,722 --> 00:36:20,273
Absolutely.
635
00:36:20,274 --> 00:36:23,673
You blame him for your confessions,
don't you?
636
00:36:23,674 --> 00:36:26,833
I'm responsible for my own actions.
I've faced up to what I did to Sian.
637
00:36:26,834 --> 00:36:28,281
No, but you see, you haven't.
638
00:36:28,282 --> 00:36:31,473
You've never given a proper account
of what happened when Sian died,
639
00:36:31,474 --> 00:36:33,273
other than some nonsensical claim
640
00:36:33,274 --> 00:36:35,633
that she tried
to grab your steering wheel
641
00:36:35,634 --> 00:36:37,233
and then you went to punch her
642
00:36:37,234 --> 00:36:41,337
without realising you had a knife
in your hand.
643
00:36:41,338 --> 00:36:45,369
You abducted her for sexual
purposes, just as you did Rebecca.
644
00:36:45,370 --> 00:36:47,289
Er, that's ludicrous.
645
00:36:47,290 --> 00:36:49,401
It was an accident.
Was it?
646
00:36:49,402 --> 00:36:52,473
Is that why her leggings
and knickers were pulled down
647
00:36:52,474 --> 00:36:54,673
and her bra was missing?
648
00:36:54,674 --> 00:36:58,513
Listen,
I came here to tell the truth.
649
00:36:58,514 --> 00:37:01,497
It doesn't matter to me
if the jury believes me or not.
650
00:37:01,498 --> 00:37:03,801
Yes, you keep saying that.
But that's not true, either.
651
00:37:03,802 --> 00:37:07,065
You received 25 years
for the murder of Sian O'Callaghan.
652
00:37:07,066 --> 00:37:09,753
But there is at least a chance
you could be released,
653
00:37:09,754 --> 00:37:11,953
albeit you'd be in your 70s.
654
00:37:11,954 --> 00:37:13,785
If you're found guilty
of Rebecca's murder,
655
00:37:13,786 --> 00:37:15,153
then you will never be released.
656
00:37:15,154 --> 00:37:18,009
So, actually, there's rather a lot
riding on this.
657
00:37:18,010 --> 00:37:20,313
Which is why you've constructed
this fantasy account
658
00:37:20,314 --> 00:37:23,577
of how you led the police
to her body.
659
00:37:23,578 --> 00:37:25,713
It's what happened.
660
00:37:25,714 --> 00:37:29,393
Yes. Except, for it to be true, you
have to try and convince the jury
661
00:37:29,394 --> 00:37:33,233
you have never met Rebecca Godden.
662
00:37:33,234 --> 00:37:35,673
I... I haven't.
Which is why you're so desperate
663
00:37:35,674 --> 00:37:38,033
to try and rebut the evidence
of Miss X,
664
00:37:38,034 --> 00:37:41,433
whom you inconveniently had sex with
on two occasions.
665
00:37:41,434 --> 00:37:45,273
I've never set eyes on her before
and, to be honest...
666
00:37:45,274 --> 00:37:47,633
..she's not my type.
Not your type?
667
00:37:47,634 --> 00:37:49,233
What is your type, then?
668
00:37:49,234 --> 00:37:53,553
Well, certainly not that thin.
669
00:37:53,554 --> 00:37:56,601
Is your type size eight?
670
00:37:56,602 --> 00:37:59,865
Size ten?
671
00:37:59,866 --> 00:38:02,833
Pretty, young women who are out
and about on the streets of Swindon
672
00:38:02,834 --> 00:38:06,009
in the early hours of the morning,
is that your type?
673
00:38:06,010 --> 00:38:09,657
About five feet,
five feet two inches tall,
674
00:38:09,658 --> 00:38:11,961
on their own...
675
00:38:11,962 --> 00:38:14,841
..vulnerable.
676
00:38:14,842 --> 00:38:17,299
Is that your type?
677
00:38:50,194 --> 00:38:51,899
PHONE VIBRATES
678
00:39:15,794 --> 00:39:17,713
WOMAN: Foreman of the jury,
679
00:39:17,714 --> 00:39:21,713
have you reached a verdict
upon which you are all agreed?
680
00:39:21,714 --> 00:39:23,385
We have.
681
00:39:23,386 --> 00:39:26,265
Do you find the defendant,
Christopher Halliwell,
682
00:39:26,266 --> 00:39:30,193
guilty or not guilty of murder?
683
00:39:30,194 --> 00:39:35,793
Guilty.
SHE GASPS
684
00:39:35,794 --> 00:39:43,929
DIALOGUE IS MUTED
685
00:39:43,930 --> 00:39:46,833
Christopher John Halliwell...
686
00:39:46,834 --> 00:39:52,433
..you have been convicted by a jury
for the murder of Rebecca Godden.
687
00:39:52,434 --> 00:39:54,873
I observe that you lied to this jury
688
00:39:54,874 --> 00:39:58,521
about the circumstances
of the murder of Rebecca Godden,
689
00:39:58,522 --> 00:40:01,209
just as you lied to the jury
690
00:40:01,210 --> 00:40:05,241
about the circumstances
of the murder of Sian O'Callaghan.
691
00:40:05,242 --> 00:40:09,553
I have concluded that the level of
your offending is exceptionally high
692
00:40:09,554 --> 00:40:12,537
and direct
there will be a whole life order.
693
00:40:12,538 --> 00:40:14,589
Take him down.
694
00:40:26,834 --> 00:40:29,627
Where's Yvonne gone?
Oh, she's gone to find Steve.
695
00:40:38,674 --> 00:40:48,441
DOOR OPENS
696
00:40:48,442 --> 00:40:53,241
Whole life?
Yeah.
697
00:40:53,242 --> 00:40:55,793
HE EXHALES SLOWLY AND HEAVILY
698
00:40:55,794 --> 00:41:01,497
The judge said his account made
no sense at all. He lied and lied.
699
00:41:01,498 --> 00:41:05,233
He was right, though.
700
00:41:05,234 --> 00:41:08,433
He did ruin me.
701
00:41:08,434 --> 00:41:10,713
I mean, it occurred to me,
when I was facing him in court,
702
00:41:10,714 --> 00:41:12,633
that we cancelled each other out.
703
00:41:12,634 --> 00:41:14,361
That day,
in order to bring him down,
704
00:41:14,362 --> 00:41:16,281
it was like
I had to also lose everything.
705
00:41:16,282 --> 00:41:18,392
As if it was some sort of pact
between us.
706
00:41:32,602 --> 00:41:36,273
Karen, we wondered if you could
say something to the press.
707
00:41:36,274 --> 00:41:39,153
I've drafted some thoughts for you.
708
00:41:39,154 --> 00:41:41,553
I wondered if you and John
could make a joint statement,
709
00:41:41,554 --> 00:41:42,777
mother and father together.
710
00:41:42,778 --> 00:41:45,465
Right. Because I'm not giving up,
not till the truth comes out.
711
00:41:45,466 --> 00:41:48,433
What? That wasn't a trial,
that was a travesty.
712
00:41:48,434 --> 00:41:50,513
What about the drug dealers
Chris was talking about?
713
00:41:50,514 --> 00:41:52,273
Has anybody been looking for them?
714
00:41:52,274 --> 00:41:55,833
Was Fulcher involved with them?
We need answers.
715
00:41:55,834 --> 00:41:57,753
I'm not doing a joint statement
with John.
716
00:41:57,754 --> 00:41:59,481
You're on your own with him.
717
00:41:59,482 --> 00:42:05,433
And I don't need your notes.
I know what I'm going to say.
718
00:42:05,434 --> 00:42:09,465
Steven...
719
00:42:09,466 --> 00:42:18,873
CAMERAS CLICK
Can you take my bag?
720
00:42:18,874 --> 00:42:21,945
I want to place on record
my thanks for the team
721
00:42:21,946 --> 00:42:24,913
led by Detective Superintendent
Sean Memory,
722
00:42:24,914 --> 00:42:28,857
who have brought this case
to a positive conclusion today.
723
00:42:28,858 --> 00:42:32,505
We have waited over five years
for this moment.
724
00:42:32,506 --> 00:42:35,961
This has been
an extremely painful journey,
725
00:42:35,962 --> 00:42:40,185
but at last
we have finally received justice
726
00:42:40,186 --> 00:42:43,257
for our beautiful little girl Becky.
727
00:42:43,258 --> 00:42:45,753
Sean and his team were left
with virtually nothing to go on
728
00:42:45,754 --> 00:42:48,441
after the evidence,
initially gathered by Steve Fulcher,
729
00:42:48,442 --> 00:42:51,513
had to be thrown out
virtually in its entirety.
730
00:42:51,514 --> 00:42:56,753
I want to thank, from the bottom
of my heart, Steve Fulcher.
731
00:42:56,754 --> 00:43:02,457
I will always be indebted to him
for bringing my little girl home.
732
00:43:02,458 --> 00:43:04,953
They worked tirelessly
with the Crown Prosecution Service
733
00:43:04,954 --> 00:43:07,313
to uncover new evidence
and bring this case to justice.
734
00:43:07,314 --> 00:43:09,393
They are to be congratulated.
735
00:43:09,394 --> 00:43:13,401
But Steve should never have suffered
the terrible consequences,
736
00:43:13,402 --> 00:43:19,161
the loss of his reputation,
the loss of his career...
737
00:43:19,162 --> 00:43:23,193
..just for doing the right thing.
738
00:43:23,194 --> 00:43:25,393
Thank you.
739
00:43:25,394 --> 00:43:30,513
REPORTERS SHOUT QUESTIONS
740
00:43:30,514 --> 00:43:37,977
Go on.
Go and talk to her.
741
00:43:37,978 --> 00:43:41,241
I can't.
742
00:43:41,242 --> 00:43:43,929
She's all right, you know?
743
00:43:43,930 --> 00:43:51,993
Like you, really.
744
00:43:51,994 --> 00:43:54,720
I just can't.
It's too close.
745
00:44:05,626 --> 00:44:08,889
WOMAN: Steve Fulcher, this has been
a landmark case in many ways.
746
00:44:08,890 --> 00:44:12,153
And I know it's been a difficult
journey for you, personally.
747
00:44:12,154 --> 00:44:15,313
But how do you respond to those
who say we cannot have the police
748
00:44:15,314 --> 00:44:17,721
riding roughshod
over the rights of a suspect
749
00:44:17,722 --> 00:44:20,113
as if it were the 1970s again?
I agree.
750
00:44:20,114 --> 00:44:23,793
I agree. But what if next time it's
your daughter who's gone missing?
751
00:44:23,794 --> 00:44:27,793
And if another police officer finds
himself in the position I was in,
752
00:44:27,794 --> 00:44:29,817
what does he do?
753
00:44:29,818 --> 00:44:31,353
Now, after what's happened to me,
754
00:44:31,354 --> 00:44:33,713
he would be perfectly entitled
to give up on her,
755
00:44:33,714 --> 00:44:35,961
to take his suspect
back to the police station
756
00:44:35,962 --> 00:44:38,457
and let a lawyer advise him to go,
"No comment."
757
00:44:38,458 --> 00:44:44,913
Now, if she was still alive, your
daughter would then inevitably die.
758
00:44:44,914 --> 00:44:49,233
And the police's official position
on this seems to be,
759
00:44:49,234 --> 00:44:50,993
"So be it.
760
00:44:50,994 --> 00:44:54,993
"We're very sorry,
but she'll just have to die, then."
761
00:44:54,994 --> 00:44:57,557
Is that what we want?
762
00:45:51,547 --> 00:45:56,547
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