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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,111 Subtitles by explosiveskull 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:08,641 Holy Fuck. 3 00:00:16,248 --> 00:00:18,615 So like a car must have crashed into that semi or something, 4 00:00:18,617 --> 00:00:20,417 a bunch of cars. 5 00:00:20,419 --> 00:00:22,588 I wonder if maybe something hit that first. 6 00:00:23,155 --> 00:00:24,257 Is there two semis? 7 00:00:25,091 --> 00:00:26,693 I Don't know. 8 00:00:27,593 --> 00:00:29,525 You see the one on fire there to the left there 9 00:00:29,527 --> 00:00:30,529 is a big something... 10 00:00:32,131 --> 00:00:33,566 I can't even see through the smoke. 11 00:00:39,405 --> 00:00:41,437 You gotta look inside the thing and see if it 12 00:00:41,439 --> 00:00:42,839 says record or not. R-E-C. 13 00:00:42,841 --> 00:00:43,507 Oh Okay. 14 00:00:43,509 --> 00:00:45,108 Yeah, it's going on? 15 00:00:45,110 --> 00:00:46,311 - Yeah. - Alright cool. 16 00:00:47,545 --> 00:00:51,147 We were just zooming up the highway and like I saw this like 17 00:00:51,149 --> 00:00:54,117 fucking black billowing smoke like coming out and we didn't 18 00:00:54,119 --> 00:00:55,852 know what was happening, we thought like there was a house 19 00:00:55,854 --> 00:00:57,120 burning down or something... 20 00:00:57,122 --> 00:01:00,123 I get panic attacks, I get panic attacks just driving 21 00:01:00,125 --> 00:01:05,261 down the road because I'm all of a sudden back in Alabama, 22 00:01:05,263 --> 00:01:07,597 it's always- 23 00:01:07,599 --> 00:01:12,235 I'm there, it's fast, and it's so scary 24 00:01:12,237 --> 00:01:14,340 because that guy hit us from behind. 25 00:01:14,906 --> 00:01:17,341 And it wasn't anything I was doing, I was just driving good 26 00:01:17,343 --> 00:01:18,809 and normal down the road, right? 27 00:01:18,811 --> 00:01:20,144 I didn't make any mistakes. 28 00:01:20,146 --> 00:01:24,384 That guy smashed us from behind and forever changed everything. 29 00:01:27,620 --> 00:01:29,656 I think we had something special. 30 00:01:31,322 --> 00:01:34,657 I don't think that that beauty that we could create, that art, 31 00:01:34,659 --> 00:01:37,229 would just have ended. 32 00:01:37,662 --> 00:01:39,566 Holy fuck you guys, look what we did... 33 00:01:40,266 --> 00:01:42,402 and then look what we did. 34 00:01:43,536 --> 00:01:46,169 We were young and mean to each other and we just were so 35 00:01:46,171 --> 00:01:48,841 focused on the art at all costs. 36 00:01:51,177 --> 00:01:53,576 And it cost us a lot in the end. 37 00:02:18,403 --> 00:02:19,870 Hey man how's it going, it's Ryan. 38 00:02:19,872 --> 00:02:21,572 Hey Ryan, good, how are you? 39 00:02:21,574 --> 00:02:22,739 Good good, can you hear me all right? 40 00:02:22,741 --> 00:02:24,574 I can hear you just fine. 41 00:02:24,576 --> 00:02:26,709 Ok, I'm going to see if I can make you louder here. 42 00:02:26,711 --> 00:02:27,679 OK. 43 00:02:29,615 --> 00:02:34,483 I'm here with Stu, who is rejoining the band for the tour. 44 00:02:34,485 --> 00:02:35,918 Oh, that's nice, yeah. 45 00:02:35,920 --> 00:02:37,687 Thanks for hopping on I appreciate it. 46 00:02:37,689 --> 00:02:39,722 What are the notes on the... 47 00:02:39,724 --> 00:02:42,758 What's it like being back together after all that time? 48 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,495 Um, It feels like no time has passed and a lot of 49 00:02:45,497 --> 00:02:46,929 time has passed. 50 00:02:54,573 --> 00:02:57,006 I remember the idea coming up a number of years ago. 51 00:02:57,008 --> 00:02:59,476 And I don't think we specifically thought like 52 00:02:59,478 --> 00:03:01,411 a ten-year anniversary was the way to go, we were just talking 53 00:03:01,413 --> 00:03:03,380 about getting together and doing some shows. Cause we never 54 00:03:03,382 --> 00:03:06,218 really did like a last show with Jesse or anything like that. 55 00:03:06,685 --> 00:03:08,785 I have only sang two days. 56 00:03:08,787 --> 00:03:12,455 I sang the very first day and made my voice sound like this. 57 00:03:12,457 --> 00:03:14,691 So I took two days off, and I sang yesterday, 58 00:03:14,693 --> 00:03:16,727 and this is the result again. 59 00:03:16,729 --> 00:03:19,328 So I'll take today off, and tomorrow. 60 00:03:26,838 --> 00:03:29,705 I'm really enjoying it, I think everybody else is too, and 61 00:03:29,707 --> 00:03:32,675 you know, we wrote these songs ten years ago, and we've all 62 00:03:32,677 --> 00:03:36,880 been active musicians over the last decade, so I kind of think 63 00:03:36,882 --> 00:03:38,781 if anything we are playing the songs better than we would have 64 00:03:38,783 --> 00:03:40,017 ten years ago. 65 00:03:40,019 --> 00:03:42,719 Yeah, it's nice too cause Jesse has something about 66 00:03:42,721 --> 00:03:45,022 him as a singer that's very honest and passionate and 67 00:03:45,024 --> 00:03:46,923 I don't know if I realized how much I missed that, 68 00:03:46,925 --> 00:03:48,461 but I definitely did. 69 00:03:49,828 --> 00:03:52,728 awesome so, what happened with, why did Jesse 70 00:03:52,730 --> 00:03:55,431 leave and then why did you leave Stu? 71 00:03:55,433 --> 00:04:00,603 Um, I mean, there was a lot of differences about how we 72 00:04:00,605 --> 00:04:05,809 thought the band should happen and kind of what direction we 73 00:04:05,811 --> 00:04:09,812 wanted to go and he and I rubbed each other the wrong way a 74 00:04:09,814 --> 00:04:13,350 little bit on some of our personal stuff and it was 75 00:04:13,352 --> 00:04:16,019 definitely a situation where we weren't going to really be able 76 00:04:16,021 --> 00:04:17,824 to continue working together. 77 00:04:19,858 --> 00:04:22,394 But, um, yeah yeah we... 78 00:04:23,995 --> 00:04:25,964 I guess that's probably all I need to say about that. 79 00:04:27,665 --> 00:04:29,699 Things in the past that might have been bumps in the 80 00:04:29,701 --> 00:04:32,336 road, things that might have caused disagreements and 81 00:04:32,338 --> 00:04:35,971 arguments, everybody is just kinder and older and wiser and 82 00:04:35,973 --> 00:04:39,476 knows how to deal with these situations a lot better now. 83 00:04:39,478 --> 00:04:41,110 It had to eventually happen, if we were more mature 84 00:04:41,112 --> 00:04:43,714 we probably would have done a little bit more and made it last 85 00:04:43,716 --> 00:04:46,382 a little longer, which is one of the reasons it's good we're 86 00:04:46,384 --> 00:04:48,885 doing this tour, to revisit the record as probably the era ended 87 00:04:48,887 --> 00:04:50,986 a little prematurely. 88 00:04:50,988 --> 00:04:54,024 Anything unresolved about that doesn't really apply to these 89 00:04:54,026 --> 00:04:57,594 shows you know it's not about the split, it's about the album, 90 00:04:57,596 --> 00:04:59,995 and about trying to celebrate the time when the five of us 91 00:04:59,997 --> 00:05:01,634 were a band. 92 00:05:02,067 --> 00:05:03,867 It's a good band, man. 93 00:05:03,869 --> 00:05:05,605 There's no disputing, they're such a good band. 94 00:05:07,706 --> 00:05:10,005 So this is a temporary thing I take it then 95 00:05:10,007 --> 00:05:11,474 or like what? 96 00:05:11,476 --> 00:05:13,445 Yeah it's just for ten shows. 97 00:05:14,713 --> 00:05:17,813 Just for the ten shows? So after this Stu you go back to 98 00:05:17,815 --> 00:05:21,453 your other stuff, and Jesse goes back and Karl's back in and... 99 00:05:21,853 --> 00:05:23,455 - Yep. - Yep. 100 00:05:29,394 --> 00:05:30,694 No people ask me that question every day 101 00:05:30,696 --> 00:05:31,661 that I do an interview. 102 00:05:31,663 --> 00:05:32,861 But it seems like it's 103 00:05:32,863 --> 00:05:35,432 never really been publicized, or has it? Cause I thought 104 00:05:35,434 --> 00:05:38,504 the whole thing was like he just left to be a teacher? 105 00:05:39,605 --> 00:05:42,471 I've talked openly about it here and there, pretty much 106 00:05:42,473 --> 00:05:45,841 what I said like he had different ideas about... 107 00:05:45,843 --> 00:05:48,577 he's just real stubborn about the way he wants things to be 108 00:05:48,579 --> 00:05:52,649 handled, and that turned into being us fighting about every 109 00:05:52,651 --> 00:05:53,784 single decision, so- 110 00:05:53,786 --> 00:05:55,819 Do you think that will bother him though to see that 111 00:05:55,821 --> 00:05:57,654 sort of stuff publicized? 112 00:05:57,656 --> 00:05:59,089 I don't think so. I don't think so. 113 00:05:59,091 --> 00:06:01,524 Like I said we're both at a pretty good point with it. 114 00:06:01,526 --> 00:06:04,129 I don't think I threw him under the bus with that really. 115 00:06:05,029 --> 00:06:08,130 Because I don't think it's more his fault than mine, I just 116 00:06:08,132 --> 00:06:12,735 think it's more a problem that he had with everyone in the band 117 00:06:12,737 --> 00:06:16,673 than I did, cause you know my problem was just with him so, 118 00:06:16,675 --> 00:06:19,575 it's like I shouldn't leave the band you know? 119 00:06:19,577 --> 00:06:21,447 I don't know. 120 00:06:23,214 --> 00:06:25,481 Hey I just wanted to say sorry for not doing the 121 00:06:25,483 --> 00:06:27,584 interview thing today. 122 00:06:27,586 --> 00:06:30,219 You seemed a touch bummed or something so I just wanted to 123 00:06:30,221 --> 00:06:32,924 make sure you knew where I was coming from. 124 00:06:34,225 --> 00:06:36,963 This whole thing is super hard on this guy's heart. 125 00:06:38,596 --> 00:06:41,598 I've had a lot of fun this week but there have been a ton 126 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,200 of mixed emotions throughout. You guys really hurt 127 00:06:44,202 --> 00:06:47,471 me in the past and I likely hurt y'all as well. 128 00:06:47,473 --> 00:06:50,539 I'm just not the same person as I was back then so whole trip 129 00:06:50,541 --> 00:06:53,209 has been pretty crazy. An interview could bring 130 00:06:53,211 --> 00:06:55,779 up old garbage that I'm trying to get over. 131 00:06:55,781 --> 00:06:58,949 I think you're a great dude, an amazing dad, and one of the 132 00:06:58,951 --> 00:07:01,817 greatest guitar players ever. 133 00:07:01,819 --> 00:07:04,855 However, you are also someone who nearly destroyed me. 134 00:07:04,857 --> 00:07:07,190 Doing an interview might bring up junk I don't need 135 00:07:07,192 --> 00:07:10,192 to focus on. This whole thing is insane for me and I just 136 00:07:10,194 --> 00:07:12,863 want you to know that I'm trying my best and trying to 137 00:07:12,865 --> 00:07:15,835 keep everything on the up and up. Nothin' but love. 138 00:07:17,502 --> 00:07:21,505 The way that the band ended, you know, it was bad. 139 00:07:21,507 --> 00:07:23,709 And it hurt me alot. 140 00:07:25,177 --> 00:07:28,980 And sort of when we started talking about this you know 141 00:07:30,649 --> 00:07:34,017 there was times when I was really excited about doing it 142 00:07:34,019 --> 00:07:36,151 and then there was other times when I was just like, 143 00:07:36,153 --> 00:07:38,788 I can't do this. I can't revisit those emotions. 144 00:07:38,790 --> 00:07:43,058 I can't revisit the past I've kind of gotten over it. 145 00:07:43,060 --> 00:07:47,632 And to come back in the mix and be with the guys and stuff- 146 00:07:49,067 --> 00:07:51,704 I knew it would be this mixed bag of emotions, you know? 147 00:07:52,271 --> 00:07:54,637 And Jesse's not even coming in the van, he's going 148 00:07:54,639 --> 00:07:56,141 in his own car. It's just him and his girlfriend. 149 00:07:57,041 --> 00:07:59,041 I'm definitely a man of comfort. 150 00:07:59,043 --> 00:08:02,812 You know my obsessive compulsive really does control, I guess, 151 00:08:02,814 --> 00:08:05,981 how I live my day-to-day life a lot of the time. 152 00:08:05,983 --> 00:08:09,719 So all of a sudden, being so OCD and phobic of things to go 153 00:08:09,721 --> 00:08:11,654 back into a van... 154 00:08:11,656 --> 00:08:13,822 Shit there's gonna be nine people in that van. 155 00:08:13,824 --> 00:08:15,995 You know, my girlfriend is gonna come along. 156 00:08:17,629 --> 00:08:20,096 He's got a pretty good hold on like, the fact that he 157 00:08:20,098 --> 00:08:23,065 knows he's a little bit insane with some of these phobias, 158 00:08:23,067 --> 00:08:25,235 and he's pretty apologetic about it and he's like "Oh I'm 159 00:08:25,237 --> 00:08:28,274 sorry you guys have to put up with me and my crazy old ways". 160 00:08:28,940 --> 00:08:30,906 And when he made us move rehearsal spaces, he was pretty 161 00:08:30,908 --> 00:08:33,980 graceful about it I guess. 162 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,681 The ceiling in the space is covered with plastic but you 163 00:08:38,683 --> 00:08:41,017 can still see through and see the insulation. 164 00:08:41,019 --> 00:08:44,353 There is nothing falling from the ceiling, it's sealed, but 165 00:08:44,355 --> 00:08:47,690 just the fact that Jesse could see the insulation with his 166 00:08:47,692 --> 00:08:51,627 eyes, he never came back to that jam space again. 167 00:08:51,629 --> 00:08:54,030 And we ultimately practiced the next three days without him. 168 00:08:54,032 --> 00:08:55,968 You guys want to run through one more thing on 169 00:08:56,999 --> 00:08:57,233 stage or are you guys good? 170 00:08:57,235 --> 00:08:59,368 Well I didn't know fiberglass, that's kind of a new phobia 171 00:08:59,370 --> 00:09:01,338 I think. We didn't really know that was a big thing 172 00:09:01,340 --> 00:09:02,805 because it used to be duct tape. 173 00:09:02,807 --> 00:09:04,840 - Adhesives. - Adhesives, yeah. 174 00:09:04,842 --> 00:09:08,044 Like, I understand why he didn't want to be in there, 175 00:09:08,046 --> 00:09:12,047 whatever, but it seriously just roots back to touring with him 176 00:09:12,049 --> 00:09:16,018 back in the day because I didn't want to like bend over and agree 177 00:09:16,020 --> 00:09:18,722 with him just because it was something he wanted his way 178 00:09:18,724 --> 00:09:21,190 you know? So like, just on principle I was like 179 00:09:21,192 --> 00:09:23,892 "fuck that, we're not moving jam spaces, we have to hold our 180 00:09:23,894 --> 00:09:26,331 ground on this sort of thing". 181 00:09:27,832 --> 00:09:29,965 It might be a good thing that I'm in here, not just 182 00:09:29,967 --> 00:09:33,335 for myself, for the guys, maybe it makes it a little bit easier 183 00:09:33,337 --> 00:09:36,274 on me maybe it makes it a little easier on everybody else. 184 00:09:51,023 --> 00:09:53,323 Dude, classic moment just now. 185 00:09:53,325 --> 00:09:58,161 This dude just came up to me and introduced himself to 186 00:09:58,163 --> 00:10:01,864 me twice. And the first time he's like "oh what's up man? 187 00:10:01,866 --> 00:10:04,133 How's it going? I'm John, whatever, I came here, 188 00:10:04,135 --> 00:10:06,902 whatever," and then he's like... and I went out in the van and 189 00:10:06,904 --> 00:10:08,972 kinda like changed my shirt and came back in and he's just like 190 00:10:08,974 --> 00:10:11,741 "Yo! You're in Misery Signals, right? 191 00:10:11,743 --> 00:10:14,013 You got a twin brother, I just met him over there." 192 00:10:17,081 --> 00:10:19,181 At first, early on I would have been like "Oh, no, 193 00:10:19,183 --> 00:10:22,185 that's Branden, that's my brother, I can't accept that" 194 00:10:22,187 --> 00:10:24,253 but that conversation goes nowhere, and like they feel 195 00:10:24,255 --> 00:10:26,358 awkward and now I'm just like "Yeah, fuck yeah, thank you." 196 00:10:27,359 --> 00:10:29,961 Make some noise for Youth Decay! 197 00:10:35,267 --> 00:10:37,103 Nihilate! 198 00:10:40,806 --> 00:10:43,876 And the reason why we are all fucking here: 199 00:10:44,475 --> 00:10:47,377 Misery Signals! 200 00:11:05,964 --> 00:11:07,296 ♪ This time..... ♪ 201 00:11:07,298 --> 00:11:09,067 ♪ It was our summer. ♪ 202 00:11:10,836 --> 00:11:14,673 ♪ It was something, no one could take from us! ♪ 203 00:11:23,081 --> 00:11:26,284 ♪ Sometimes that night, seems so close ♪ 204 00:11:29,788 --> 00:11:31,988 ♪ Like I, could hold it ♪ 205 00:11:31,990 --> 00:11:35,293 ♪ You said alright, we'll be fine. ♪ 206 00:11:36,495 --> 00:11:38,230 ♪ But how could we have known? ♪ 207 00:11:40,298 --> 00:11:42,368 ♪ Do you remember? ♪ 208 00:11:44,369 --> 00:11:47,206 ♪ Roll down the window let in night air. ♪ 209 00:11:49,407 --> 00:11:51,811 ♪ I always thought we'd be together ♪ 210 00:11:57,515 --> 00:12:00,318 ♪ You said we've never gone this way before ♪ 211 00:12:07,793 --> 00:12:13,195 Dude, so insane and so awesome but like poor Ryan is 212 00:12:13,197 --> 00:12:16,199 over here in the corner shit's getting stepped on and 213 00:12:16,201 --> 00:12:17,400 everything is getting unplugged. 214 00:12:17,402 --> 00:12:20,469 Alright we gotta pause here for two seconds because you 215 00:12:20,471 --> 00:12:22,875 guys are fucking out of control, and it's awesome, 216 00:12:24,442 --> 00:12:27,109 but everybody's gotta take like two steps back and you guys 217 00:12:27,111 --> 00:12:29,478 gotta step down and like everything is getting unplugged. 218 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,414 And I'm gonna put all my shit back together and then we're 219 00:12:31,416 --> 00:12:33,152 gonna play the next song. Hold on. 220 00:12:33,985 --> 00:12:36,118 I thought this show would be really good but I 221 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,090 didn't anticipate this. 222 00:12:39,990 --> 00:12:43,325 That's probably the most technical difficulties he's 223 00:12:43,327 --> 00:12:46,128 ever had, but that might have been one of the best 224 00:12:46,130 --> 00:12:48,100 Misery Signals shows we've ever played. 225 00:12:52,102 --> 00:12:54,503 I'm also informed that there's some sprinklers up here 226 00:12:54,505 --> 00:12:56,138 you've gotta watch out for otherwise they'll 227 00:12:56,140 --> 00:12:57,976 get everything wet. 228 00:12:59,110 --> 00:13:00,846 That might be a bad scene. 229 00:13:09,486 --> 00:13:11,887 Once again, thank you guys so so much. 230 00:13:11,889 --> 00:13:13,859 Keep enjoying yourselves. 231 00:13:18,462 --> 00:13:21,464 Just please watch old Ry's pedals here. 232 00:14:05,376 --> 00:14:08,143 Tonight's gonna be nuts, it's like the venue is maybe a 233 00:14:08,145 --> 00:14:11,214 little bit too small but it will be one of those shows where 234 00:14:11,216 --> 00:14:12,648 maybe that's a good thing. 235 00:14:12,650 --> 00:14:14,349 The venue is a lot of bit too small 236 00:14:14,351 --> 00:14:15,484 Yeah. 237 00:14:15,486 --> 00:14:17,921 I think we could have filled a four or five hundred 238 00:14:17,923 --> 00:14:19,555 cap room in Calgary. 239 00:14:19,557 --> 00:14:21,657 That's the tricky balance man, it's a lot less fun 240 00:14:21,659 --> 00:14:23,626 if half the room's half empty cause you can feel that 241 00:14:23,628 --> 00:14:26,061 difference, and for this tour particularly I think that's 242 00:14:26,063 --> 00:14:28,931 what we wanted to go for is like a smaller room kind of 243 00:14:28,933 --> 00:14:30,400 feel cause those were like... 244 00:14:30,402 --> 00:14:32,535 if we're gonna do a throwback to those times we were 245 00:14:32,537 --> 00:14:35,641 playing a lot smaller places, smaller than this even. 246 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,441 So as veterans, what advice would you give 247 00:14:39,443 --> 00:14:42,045 to people who are in the early stages starting out? 248 00:14:42,047 --> 00:14:44,647 The band has been operating for ten, twelve years 249 00:14:44,649 --> 00:14:49,084 now, when we sort of broke the band and got signed and that 250 00:14:49,086 --> 00:14:50,320 sort of thing we were just 251 00:14:50,322 --> 00:14:53,289 touring and doing shows and it wasn't quite as internet and 252 00:14:53,291 --> 00:14:56,228 social networking based as it seems to be. 253 00:14:57,095 --> 00:14:58,630 What's up guys we're Misery Signals. 254 00:15:00,197 --> 00:15:03,299 Now, it's like, cover a popular song and make a 255 00:15:03,301 --> 00:15:06,201 cool YouTube video and get some viral going online, 256 00:15:06,203 --> 00:15:08,036 I don't really know cause I didn't do it that way. 257 00:15:08,038 --> 00:15:09,705 For us it was just get out there and play as much 258 00:15:09,707 --> 00:15:11,974 as you can and I don't think that's gonna hurt you I still 259 00:15:11,976 --> 00:15:12,944 think that's a good idea. 260 00:15:13,879 --> 00:15:15,578 If you're watching this we're already dead. 261 00:15:15,580 --> 00:15:18,013 Melted away to nothingness. 262 00:15:18,015 --> 00:15:19,983 We're in the desert, it sucks. 263 00:15:19,985 --> 00:15:20,985 What does that sign say? 264 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,020 Tucson, 246 miles. 265 00:15:24,022 --> 00:15:26,756 246 miles to Tucson Arizona. 266 00:15:26,758 --> 00:15:29,461 So Tucson is less than half way there. 267 00:15:30,294 --> 00:15:34,030 I can remember one year, maybe it was 2004 or 2005 that 268 00:15:34,032 --> 00:15:36,498 we were on tour for 11 months of that year. 269 00:15:36,500 --> 00:15:39,634 Three days off here, a week here, you know a few days, 270 00:15:39,636 --> 00:15:42,104 but like it was just go go go go go. 271 00:15:42,106 --> 00:15:44,309 We were just focused on that and nothing else. 272 00:15:45,442 --> 00:15:47,676 There wasn't really anything else going on in 273 00:15:47,678 --> 00:15:48,945 my life that mattered. 274 00:15:48,947 --> 00:15:53,085 We were just really caught up in making this thing special. 275 00:15:54,719 --> 00:15:56,585 Say something for me Jesse. 276 00:15:56,587 --> 00:15:58,021 Hello. 277 00:15:58,023 --> 00:15:59,354 How are you tonight? 278 00:15:59,356 --> 00:16:01,290 I'm okay. Tired. 279 00:16:01,292 --> 00:16:03,459 You think you want to play in a band for your life but 280 00:16:03,461 --> 00:16:06,695 all of a sudden you're on the road for 120 days at a time, 281 00:16:06,697 --> 00:16:10,565 never going home. My mother had a son, my little brother, 282 00:16:10,567 --> 00:16:13,603 he's now thirteen years old but in those first years of 283 00:16:13,605 --> 00:16:16,372 Misery Signals he was a little boy. 284 00:16:16,374 --> 00:16:19,142 And he didn't have a dad, and so I always had this really strong 285 00:16:19,144 --> 00:16:22,246 sense of obligation to be a dad to Liam. 286 00:16:23,148 --> 00:16:25,781 How do you balance touring ten, eleven months of the year with 287 00:16:25,783 --> 00:16:28,283 trying to be this father figure to this boy? 288 00:16:28,285 --> 00:16:32,190 Alright so we just arrived in Arkansas. At the show. 289 00:16:32,690 --> 00:16:35,223 When I was nineteen through twenty one I was really 290 00:16:35,225 --> 00:16:38,294 really close with my parents, and same with like friends when 291 00:16:38,296 --> 00:16:41,430 I lived in Edmonton from when I started touring with 292 00:16:41,432 --> 00:16:43,532 Misery Signals my friend circle in Edmonton is pretty 293 00:16:43,534 --> 00:16:45,368 much down to one person now. 294 00:16:45,370 --> 00:16:47,637 You know the only person that I really talk to that lives in 295 00:16:47,639 --> 00:16:49,541 Edmonton is Brandon, our merch guy. 296 00:16:50,207 --> 00:16:52,407 Maybe it just seems commonplace cause through working 297 00:16:52,409 --> 00:16:54,310 with Misery Signals I've made so many friends that 298 00:16:54,312 --> 00:16:56,478 do tour, so it seems pretty 299 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,482 normal, but when you really think about it it's kind of not. 300 00:16:59,484 --> 00:17:01,316 Watch out for my urine. 301 00:17:01,318 --> 00:17:02,350 Huh? 302 00:17:02,352 --> 00:17:03,252 Watch out for my urine. 303 00:17:03,254 --> 00:17:05,024 There's a cup full of it by your feet. 304 00:17:08,460 --> 00:17:11,561 Five to ten people pile into a van where you have to put 305 00:17:11,563 --> 00:17:16,265 your gear and where you have to sleep and where it smells awful 306 00:17:16,267 --> 00:17:21,403 and you drive a thousand miles to play a show in front of 307 00:17:21,405 --> 00:17:23,873 twenty people, but you don't care cause you're playing music 308 00:17:23,875 --> 00:17:27,145 you love to people that also hopefully love it. 309 00:17:27,778 --> 00:17:29,812 You don't know where you're gonna sleep that night maybe, 310 00:17:29,814 --> 00:17:33,349 but you're probably gonna end up on like some weirdo's floor 311 00:17:33,351 --> 00:17:36,422 breathing in asbestos or something. 312 00:17:37,788 --> 00:17:40,288 But it doesn't matter. 313 00:17:40,290 --> 00:17:42,824 Cause you're there with your friends. And you're there 314 00:17:42,826 --> 00:17:46,698 doing what you love, and you're experiencing something. 315 00:17:50,335 --> 00:17:53,369 My foot is ruined. Let's go to the hospital. 316 00:17:53,371 --> 00:17:56,508 Here's the normal foot. Normal foot, fat foot. 317 00:17:57,142 --> 00:17:58,641 Nothing starts out great. 318 00:17:58,643 --> 00:18:01,376 You have to be willing to go through some shit and put up 319 00:18:01,378 --> 00:18:04,479 with less than ideal conditions and if you have a lot of love 320 00:18:04,481 --> 00:18:06,449 for something it's not going to matter how shitty those 321 00:18:06,451 --> 00:18:07,917 conditions are. 322 00:18:07,919 --> 00:18:09,552 How'd we do in merch buddy? 323 00:18:09,554 --> 00:18:11,187 Not that good. 324 00:18:11,189 --> 00:18:12,458 Horribly? 325 00:18:14,592 --> 00:18:16,926 Maybe like 160 bucks. 326 00:18:16,928 --> 00:18:18,460 Most of these bands don't make a shit 327 00:18:18,462 --> 00:18:19,696 ton of money doing it. 328 00:18:19,698 --> 00:18:21,730 It's just kind of like all they know at this point, right? 329 00:18:21,732 --> 00:18:23,865 They started doing it when they were young so they just keep at 330 00:18:23,867 --> 00:18:25,700 at cause what else are they gonna do? 331 00:18:25,702 --> 00:18:28,336 In the lean years these guys didn't even have a trailer, we 332 00:18:28,338 --> 00:18:31,540 were touring with a van with one of those tiny cargo things on 333 00:18:31,542 --> 00:18:34,442 the top of it, and all and the merch and personal luggage was 334 00:18:34,444 --> 00:18:37,712 crammed up in there and like amps and drums and everything 335 00:18:37,714 --> 00:18:39,414 were just crammed under the back. 336 00:18:39,416 --> 00:18:42,250 So our van stopped working a little while ago and 337 00:18:42,252 --> 00:18:45,353 we're gonna get it fixed or, hopefully... but we're 338 00:18:45,355 --> 00:18:48,493 sitting in San Diego, probably missing the show. Awesome. 339 00:18:50,627 --> 00:18:53,763 It's a different world. You're moving so much. 340 00:18:53,765 --> 00:18:56,532 You play one city one night and then you move to the next city. 341 00:18:56,534 --> 00:18:59,901 You don't leave any time for anything. 342 00:18:59,903 --> 00:19:02,904 You're with this traveling group of people and it's like 343 00:19:02,906 --> 00:19:06,475 your own separate universe. 344 00:19:06,477 --> 00:19:09,511 You know you guys create your own memories together but you 345 00:19:09,513 --> 00:19:14,482 don't have enough time to create relationships necessarily with 346 00:19:14,484 --> 00:19:17,586 the people that live in the city you're playing. 347 00:19:17,588 --> 00:19:19,622 When you spend that much time with your band, those 348 00:19:19,624 --> 00:19:20,856 become like your family. 349 00:19:20,858 --> 00:19:24,492 Those guys for almost eight years were like my family, the 350 00:19:24,494 --> 00:19:26,631 dudes that you see every day 351 00:19:27,999 --> 00:19:29,899 I feel it's partly love of the music and partly these 352 00:19:29,901 --> 00:19:31,968 guys are getting to an age where it's like really what 353 00:19:31,970 --> 00:19:34,003 else do they do? 354 00:19:34,005 --> 00:19:38,607 A lot of them didn't go to school, I was kind of lucky in 355 00:19:38,609 --> 00:19:40,875 the sense I guess that before I started touring I went to 356 00:19:40,877 --> 00:19:43,379 college so I had something to fall back on when I decided 357 00:19:43,381 --> 00:19:45,314 to quit. But a lot of these guys don't, right? 358 00:19:45,316 --> 00:19:48,316 So this is what they keep doing. 359 00:19:48,318 --> 00:19:49,751 You guys seen Jesse Yet? 360 00:19:49,753 --> 00:19:50,753 Nope 361 00:19:50,755 --> 00:19:52,688 - No he's not here yet. - Should be here soon. 362 00:19:52,690 --> 00:19:54,590 Did he drive here separately? 363 00:19:54,592 --> 00:19:55,924 - Yeah. - Yeah. 364 00:19:55,926 --> 00:19:57,959 He's doing the tour separately, in his own car. 365 00:19:57,961 --> 00:19:59,661 - What? - Yeah. 366 00:19:59,663 --> 00:20:02,498 They drove out to the wedding from Saskatchewan and 367 00:20:02,500 --> 00:20:06,268 they're driving back at least to that point, and then maybe 368 00:20:06,270 --> 00:20:08,603 hopping in the van or possibly just driving a car 369 00:20:08,605 --> 00:20:11,210 on the whole tour. It's yet to be determined. 370 00:20:13,510 --> 00:20:15,446 Hopefully he doesn't miss any shows. 371 00:20:24,555 --> 00:20:26,354 Is it pretty packed in there? 372 00:20:26,356 --> 00:20:28,591 Uh, a bunch of people are hanging out out front, it'll 373 00:20:28,593 --> 00:20:30,562 be pretty packed when we play. 374 00:20:31,496 --> 00:20:33,832 Doesn't seem that crowded but it'll probably be nuts. 375 00:20:59,589 --> 00:21:04,262 ♪ How could I justify this ♪ 376 00:21:07,597 --> 00:21:10,034 ♪ I can make anything alright ♪ 377 00:21:12,336 --> 00:21:13,672 ♪ But what do you know ♪ 378 00:21:15,972 --> 00:21:17,742 ♪ about sacrifice ♪ 379 00:21:20,510 --> 00:21:22,980 ♪ You are no lamb ♪ 380 00:21:25,450 --> 00:21:27,286 ♪ Any man a creep ♪ 381 00:21:29,487 --> 00:21:31,657 ♪ Any man deserving ♪ 382 00:21:33,624 --> 00:21:34,692 ♪ Any man ♪ 383 00:21:37,461 --> 00:21:38,763 ♪ A victim, ♪ 384 00:21:41,732 --> 00:21:42,967 ♪ a target ♪ 385 00:22:11,162 --> 00:22:14,432 Do you know the plate number on that guy? 386 00:22:17,101 --> 00:22:18,570 I have no fucking clue what it is. 387 00:22:19,770 --> 00:22:22,606 Got a text this morning, our van and trailer were towed. 388 00:22:24,541 --> 00:22:26,074 - 405 right? - Yep. 389 00:22:27,811 --> 00:22:31,080 Two blocks down and it says it's good from nine to 390 00:22:31,082 --> 00:22:34,883 eleven, and then on the right next to it it says "no parking 391 00:22:34,885 --> 00:22:37,920 Monday through Wednesday" and then next to it says from 392 00:22:37,922 --> 00:22:41,824 seven to eight and we didn't see that. I already called them 393 00:22:41,826 --> 00:22:46,094 they said they have it, it's 200 for the impoundment. 394 00:22:46,096 --> 00:22:47,999 Sick. 395 00:22:49,534 --> 00:22:51,002 Okay straight back, straight back. 396 00:22:53,069 --> 00:22:54,673 This way a little. 397 00:22:55,506 --> 00:22:57,576 Keep coming, you're on track, keep coming. 398 00:22:58,108 --> 00:23:02,114 Slow, slow, little more, this much more, Stop! 399 00:23:03,181 --> 00:23:04,149 We're okay. 400 00:23:05,450 --> 00:23:06,817 It'll pop in. 401 00:23:09,921 --> 00:23:12,054 That sucks cause that was actually in there that time. 402 00:23:12,056 --> 00:23:13,721 The last time it happened I don't think we had 403 00:23:13,723 --> 00:23:14,692 it on there correctly. 404 00:23:17,161 --> 00:23:19,831 Well, what else could go wrong boys? 405 00:23:23,733 --> 00:23:26,602 Turn left onto 15 Avenue south east. 406 00:23:26,604 --> 00:23:29,007 Then turn left onto Macleod trail south east. 407 00:23:31,107 --> 00:23:34,176 We disagreed on a lot of things back in the day. 408 00:23:34,178 --> 00:23:37,078 The specifics escape me right now which leads me to believe 409 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:38,613 they maybe weren't as important as we thought 410 00:23:38,615 --> 00:23:40,114 they were at the time. 411 00:23:40,116 --> 00:23:42,517 Being in a band is like a marriage you know? 412 00:23:42,519 --> 00:23:46,121 You all have to work together and decide on things together 413 00:23:46,123 --> 00:23:50,992 and do everything together and it always sort of seemed like 414 00:23:50,994 --> 00:23:53,597 the four of us against him. 415 00:23:54,699 --> 00:23:57,266 I was just sick of losing every vote. 416 00:23:57,268 --> 00:24:00,001 Whether it was as simple as where we are going to go eat 417 00:24:00,003 --> 00:24:02,837 tonight or where we're gonna sleep tonight. 418 00:24:02,839 --> 00:24:05,774 Those guys at that point were so like party... 419 00:24:05,776 --> 00:24:08,776 it's funny, straightedge guys, but party mode, like "we're 420 00:24:08,778 --> 00:24:11,646 gonna stay at these girls' house tonight " " we're gonna eat at 421 00:24:11,648 --> 00:24:13,484 this vegan restaurant today". 422 00:24:14,618 --> 00:24:17,553 I just got sick of losing everything. 423 00:24:17,555 --> 00:24:21,023 We would often refer to Kyle and Ryan as "The Bosses", 424 00:24:21,025 --> 00:24:23,926 cause they would deal with the money and the promoters and... 425 00:24:23,928 --> 00:24:26,862 I think Ryan was the leader in that band. 426 00:24:26,864 --> 00:24:29,765 I think his brother would always just basically do 427 00:24:29,767 --> 00:24:31,866 whatever Ry said back then. 428 00:24:31,868 --> 00:24:34,202 And Ryan and Kyle were childhood friends. 429 00:24:34,204 --> 00:24:36,071 I was this outsider. 430 00:24:36,073 --> 00:24:37,739 There's these expectations that he would have 431 00:24:37,741 --> 00:24:40,776 for other people but sort of not for himself. 432 00:24:40,778 --> 00:24:43,077 In a sense of like, he would want... 433 00:24:43,079 --> 00:24:46,215 he would expect the band to have their strings changed 434 00:24:46,217 --> 00:24:50,853 for every 2nd show, but then then he would cut a set short, 435 00:24:50,855 --> 00:24:54,123 at four songs because he's tired. But then he would 436 00:24:54,125 --> 00:24:56,824 justify that with "Oh I don't want to do a bad performance" 437 00:24:56,826 --> 00:24:59,827 He would often say that he wanted to leave the band or 438 00:24:59,829 --> 00:25:02,967 he thought that he's not coming back after this tour. 439 00:25:03,733 --> 00:25:05,700 And he would say that over the course of a 440 00:25:05,702 --> 00:25:06,802 number of different tours. 441 00:25:06,804 --> 00:25:09,771 "Oh I'm gonna quit the band if this doesn't happen" 442 00:25:09,773 --> 00:25:11,974 I think he was saying that he quit cause he wanted 443 00:25:11,976 --> 00:25:15,143 someone to talk him back into staying but it was just too hard 444 00:25:15,145 --> 00:25:18,881 on us to have all these tensions and then on top of that have him 445 00:25:18,883 --> 00:25:22,017 being like "Well I'm just gonna quit, well I'm just gonna quit". 446 00:25:22,019 --> 00:25:25,153 And eventually one of the times that he said that I put 447 00:25:25,155 --> 00:25:28,025 my foot down and said "Okay, don't come back." 448 00:25:29,926 --> 00:25:31,228 Milwaukee. 449 00:25:31,895 --> 00:25:33,328 That's the guy's hometown. 450 00:25:33,330 --> 00:25:36,230 You know, we spent a lot of time there. 451 00:25:36,232 --> 00:25:39,234 The last time we played there, with Madball, I was on a 452 00:25:39,236 --> 00:25:42,004 payphone outside and these kids came up and they banged 453 00:25:42,006 --> 00:25:43,872 on the phone booth. 454 00:25:43,874 --> 00:25:47,176 So I get off the phone and I came out and they said well we 455 00:25:47,178 --> 00:25:50,245 heard that Shawn Page is taking your spot in Misery Signals. 456 00:25:50,247 --> 00:25:52,284 He's trying out next week, after the tour. 457 00:25:53,817 --> 00:25:58,319 And I was just so taken aback, like, "What, what do you mean?" 458 00:25:58,321 --> 00:26:01,923 ♪ Awaken and destroy ♪ 459 00:26:01,925 --> 00:26:03,595 ♪ these dreams ♪ 460 00:26:05,162 --> 00:26:09,097 We'd been fighting lots, but, no from my understanding 461 00:26:09,099 --> 00:26:11,836 I'm gonna be the singer in Misery Signals. 462 00:26:15,373 --> 00:26:19,811 And I didn't say anything to Ryan, I played that show. 463 00:26:21,278 --> 00:26:24,149 But from that point on it was crumbling. 464 00:26:25,281 --> 00:26:28,619 It was obvious that they were seeking to replace me. 465 00:26:29,886 --> 00:26:33,287 We did have other options in mind or other 466 00:26:33,289 --> 00:26:36,158 scenarios at least in our subconscious. 467 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,997 I don't think we had acted on them until he left the band but, 468 00:26:41,164 --> 00:26:43,969 the end was in sight with Jesse before he left. 469 00:26:44,367 --> 00:26:46,035 We should have just talked about things. 470 00:26:46,037 --> 00:26:49,705 We should have just all aired our grievances and hopefully 471 00:26:49,707 --> 00:26:52,173 worked through things but instead I just went back to my 472 00:26:52,175 --> 00:26:56,378 bunk I was like "Screw you guys you bastards" kind of thing. 473 00:26:56,380 --> 00:26:59,651 I just stayed in my own little place. 474 00:27:00,951 --> 00:27:04,152 The last time I was here, was one of the last shows 475 00:27:04,154 --> 00:27:06,324 I ever played with Misery Signals. 476 00:27:07,924 --> 00:27:10,662 We played in the smaller room with Madball. 477 00:27:12,328 --> 00:27:14,198 It's a little bit different than this. 478 00:27:15,932 --> 00:27:18,403 So thank you so much for making this so special tonight. 479 00:27:25,276 --> 00:27:27,812 Thanks for making this old guy feel cool. 480 00:27:29,046 --> 00:27:31,915 And then we head south, 481 00:27:34,417 --> 00:27:37,655 the next show in my head that I remember is Dallas Texas, 482 00:27:39,155 --> 00:27:40,959 that was the last show we played. 483 00:27:41,491 --> 00:27:44,159 Stage left check check check. Hey! 484 00:27:44,161 --> 00:27:45,897 Hang on just a second. 485 00:27:50,267 --> 00:27:51,670 Let's get that vocal again. 486 00:27:52,103 --> 00:27:54,737 Whoa-oooo. 487 00:27:54,739 --> 00:27:56,807 1 - 2 - 3 hey. 488 00:27:58,174 --> 00:28:00,843 Played here a couple of times early on with the band. 489 00:28:00,845 --> 00:28:01,980 Hey check, that's good. 490 00:28:04,481 --> 00:28:05,916 Oh dude, it's exactly the same. 491 00:28:09,153 --> 00:28:12,153 It's kind of smaller than I remember, but this is exactly 492 00:28:12,155 --> 00:28:15,757 how it was set up. But this was the last place that we 493 00:28:15,759 --> 00:28:18,997 played with Jesse on his original run in the band. 494 00:28:20,064 --> 00:28:21,332 So weird. 495 00:28:24,434 --> 00:28:27,369 So the room where we're actually playing tonight is where me and 496 00:28:27,371 --> 00:28:30,072 Ryan went and talked after we played here and kinda got in an 497 00:28:30,074 --> 00:28:33,010 argument and that was kind of the end. 498 00:28:36,846 --> 00:28:40,181 I don't remember what tensions were what exactly cause 499 00:28:40,183 --> 00:28:44,353 there was no singular event that ended Jesse's stay in the band 500 00:28:44,355 --> 00:28:50,558 it was building tension for a number of months if not years so 501 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,863 I don't think anything specifically awful happened when 502 00:28:54,865 --> 00:29:00,536 we were in Dallas the last time but it came to a head between 503 00:29:00,538 --> 00:29:05,043 the night that we played here and the next show. 504 00:29:06,277 --> 00:29:09,178 Everyone in the band was in agreement with me from my 505 00:29:09,180 --> 00:29:13,315 understanding, but I was the one that was kinda just had had it 506 00:29:13,317 --> 00:29:15,452 enough that I needed to talk about it right then and there. 507 00:29:16,554 --> 00:29:18,987 We had had this talk before. 508 00:29:18,989 --> 00:29:23,124 And we knew if we didn't stand our ground and go through with 509 00:29:23,126 --> 00:29:26,562 what we wanted to do that it would just go back to how it was 510 00:29:26,564 --> 00:29:28,462 and it would never happen. 511 00:29:28,464 --> 00:29:32,100 We got to the show, we had set up our gear on stage and 512 00:29:32,102 --> 00:29:33,334 we were opening the show. 513 00:29:33,336 --> 00:29:35,403 And I'm saying to the guys "What is the point of loading in? 514 00:29:35,405 --> 00:29:38,407 He is not going to do this show after you guys tell him this 515 00:29:38,409 --> 00:29:41,142 isn't gonna be a thing anymore." 516 00:29:41,144 --> 00:29:43,612 They just basically said in the van that day 517 00:29:43,614 --> 00:29:46,849 'We're done. We're gonna get you a flight home. Tonight." 518 00:29:46,851 --> 00:29:49,317 And I started crying and basically begging them 519 00:29:49,319 --> 00:29:51,620 "No no no. We need to talk this out. We need to talk this out." 520 00:29:51,622 --> 00:29:55,393 It was one of the most fucking awkward things of my life. 521 00:29:56,393 --> 00:29:58,427 They told him, obviously he's not gonna go through with the 522 00:29:58,429 --> 00:30:01,863 show, so we had to go back in, take all the gear off stage. 523 00:30:01,865 --> 00:30:04,365 I was actually filling in as tour manager at the time so I 524 00:30:04,367 --> 00:30:06,901 had to like kind of explain to the tour manager of Madball 525 00:30:06,903 --> 00:30:09,971 "Look, this is what's going on. We're dropping off the tour 526 00:30:09,973 --> 00:30:12,109 cause this might not be a band anymore." 527 00:30:12,609 --> 00:30:16,311 Even though I'm sure he could sense unhappiness in the 528 00:30:16,313 --> 00:30:20,047 camp he never saw it coming. Like he never even thought that 529 00:30:20,049 --> 00:30:21,917 it would actually come down to that. 530 00:30:21,919 --> 00:30:23,651 You know, it hit him pretty hard. 531 00:30:23,653 --> 00:30:26,455 I think we tried to settle it where we were gonna 532 00:30:26,457 --> 00:30:29,458 finish out the tour, there was like 4 or 5 days left but once 533 00:30:29,460 --> 00:30:32,661 it kinda dawned on Jesse that he wasn't gonna come back for real, 534 00:30:32,663 --> 00:30:33,796 he didn't want to do those shows. 535 00:30:33,798 --> 00:30:36,163 So we had to book him a flight home but we couldn't get 536 00:30:36,165 --> 00:30:39,101 anything affordable right then and there out of Oklahoma City. 537 00:30:39,103 --> 00:30:41,236 So we drove to St Louis, a number of hours away, 538 00:30:41,238 --> 00:30:42,403 all just sitting in the van. 539 00:30:42,405 --> 00:30:45,207 It was kinda similar to when you break up with someone 540 00:30:45,209 --> 00:30:47,342 and you're just kinda talking through it with them. 541 00:30:47,344 --> 00:30:49,177 "Why are you doing this? 542 00:30:49,179 --> 00:30:50,578 Why are you guys doing this to me? 543 00:30:50,580 --> 00:30:53,315 I really want to do the next record with you guys. 544 00:30:53,317 --> 00:30:56,450 I want to finish the tour. I want to still be in the band." 545 00:30:56,452 --> 00:30:59,086 Jesse kept trying to get me to stop so he could get 546 00:30:59,088 --> 00:31:02,623 some alcohol and that was weird too, cause he never drank, I 547 00:31:02,625 --> 00:31:03,892 never really know him to drink. 548 00:31:03,894 --> 00:31:07,028 After having something taken away from you, to spend 549 00:31:07,030 --> 00:31:10,198 the next six hours with the people that took it from you, 550 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,334 I can't imagine the shit that was going through his head. 551 00:31:13,336 --> 00:31:15,603 Had to be pretty difficult to endure. 552 00:31:15,605 --> 00:31:19,373 Jesse I think took it probably the hardest from Stu, 553 00:31:19,375 --> 00:31:23,245 because Jesse you know he knew Stu growing up through the 554 00:31:23,247 --> 00:31:25,247 Edmonton scene and those bands, and he was kinda the one that 555 00:31:25,249 --> 00:31:27,181 got Stu into the band. 556 00:31:27,183 --> 00:31:30,384 So you know to have Stu siding with the other guys when it was 557 00:31:30,386 --> 00:31:32,955 time for him to leave, I think that really affected their 558 00:31:32,957 --> 00:31:36,424 friendship and there was a lot of tension in that drive just 559 00:31:36,426 --> 00:31:39,396 between the two of them. Maybe more so than anyone else. 560 00:31:40,263 --> 00:31:42,463 There was this expectation of loyalty that 561 00:31:42,465 --> 00:31:45,267 I was supposed to have to him. Like, if he was getting 562 00:31:45,269 --> 00:31:47,501 kicked out of the band that I should go with him. Fuck that. 563 00:31:47,503 --> 00:31:50,171 You created a toxic environment that nobody wanted you to be 564 00:31:50,173 --> 00:31:54,241 involved in the band anymore, it's not my fault. 565 00:31:54,243 --> 00:31:56,244 They drove me to the airport, and I remember them getting 566 00:31:56,246 --> 00:32:00,114 out of the van and waiting in line to hug me, 567 00:32:00,116 --> 00:32:01,615 all four of them. 568 00:32:01,617 --> 00:32:04,987 I just got out of the van and walked into the airport. 569 00:32:04,989 --> 00:32:08,155 And I didn't see them again for about three years. 570 00:32:08,157 --> 00:32:10,491 I think I was maybe the only one that got out to say bye to 571 00:32:10,493 --> 00:32:13,027 him. I just gave him a hug and got back in the van and fuckin 572 00:32:13,029 --> 00:32:15,764 huddled myself up under this blanket and just started crying 573 00:32:15,766 --> 00:32:17,502 cause I was just... 574 00:32:18,602 --> 00:32:20,535 more than anything I think I was just upset for him, 575 00:32:20,537 --> 00:32:25,140 to see that something he had built and created to cope with 576 00:32:25,142 --> 00:32:29,547 his loss, he was just kind of being ripped from. 577 00:32:30,713 --> 00:32:32,680 It was a meeting of frustrations and stubbornness 578 00:32:32,682 --> 00:32:34,282 from both sides. 579 00:32:34,284 --> 00:32:37,719 We were young and eager to continue on and we wanted to 580 00:32:37,721 --> 00:32:41,123 have a happy environment while we were touring, we were doing 581 00:32:41,125 --> 00:32:45,329 it so much at that point, so we just pulled the trigger. 582 00:32:46,130 --> 00:32:48,029 There was no working through it at that point. 583 00:32:48,031 --> 00:32:49,698 They didn't want to hear it. 584 00:32:49,700 --> 00:32:52,401 And I can't... 585 00:32:52,403 --> 00:32:54,038 I don't know if I can blame them, you know? 586 00:33:09,486 --> 00:33:12,054 It hurt, you know, it still hurts. 587 00:33:12,056 --> 00:33:15,425 It hurts that those three guys that I created this band with- 588 00:33:16,727 --> 00:33:18,997 would go behind my back and do that. 589 00:33:20,163 --> 00:33:22,363 It hurt even more that Stuart would be party to it 590 00:33:22,365 --> 00:33:23,765 and not say anything to me. 591 00:33:23,767 --> 00:33:26,367 He wrote me some fucking emails. 592 00:33:26,369 --> 00:33:29,103 Some very very very aggressive 593 00:33:29,105 --> 00:33:31,739 threatening emails. Like... 594 00:33:31,741 --> 00:33:33,542 "If you come back to Canada you're gonna get your 595 00:33:33,544 --> 00:33:35,709 ass kicked" or whatever or 596 00:33:35,711 --> 00:33:38,383 "I'm gonna send guys out to hurt you". 597 00:33:39,849 --> 00:33:41,382 So we were... 598 00:33:41,384 --> 00:33:44,756 you know he's friends with some serious dudes. 599 00:33:45,422 --> 00:33:47,421 I think I can speak for everyone else in the band 600 00:33:47,423 --> 00:33:52,693 when I say we were legitimately afraid 601 00:33:52,695 --> 00:33:54,798 that something was gonna happen to us. 602 00:33:56,365 --> 00:33:58,566 We were really bad to each other at times. 603 00:33:58,568 --> 00:34:02,173 The focus was always art, art, art at all costs. 604 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,478 And we created fantastic art, but it nearly destroyed me. 605 00:34:09,746 --> 00:34:12,313 It put me in the worst spot I was ever in. 606 00:34:12,315 --> 00:34:15,383 I come home. Girlfriend was gone. 607 00:34:15,385 --> 00:34:17,651 Misery Signals was gone. 608 00:34:17,653 --> 00:34:21,389 All of a sudden everybody that I had aligned myself with in life 609 00:34:21,391 --> 00:34:25,360 for four or five years was gone. 610 00:34:25,362 --> 00:34:27,097 They were all gone. 611 00:34:30,233 --> 00:34:32,536 Let's start this thing off right. 612 00:34:33,670 --> 00:34:35,570 We are Misery Signals from Wisconsin. 613 00:34:35,572 --> 00:34:37,375 Let's have some fun. 614 00:34:40,610 --> 00:34:42,413 I think it hurt them too. 615 00:34:44,313 --> 00:34:47,749 We were on such a climb at that point. 616 00:34:47,751 --> 00:34:49,818 Misery Signals was doing so, so well, right? 617 00:34:49,820 --> 00:34:51,853 And it was like every tour was better, better, better... 618 00:34:51,855 --> 00:34:53,722 and then they kick me out, 619 00:34:53,724 --> 00:34:56,825 and it took them a while I think, four or five years later, 620 00:34:56,827 --> 00:35:00,862 where maybe they were firing on all cylinders again. 621 00:35:00,864 --> 00:35:04,699 It's hard. It's a speed-bump for sure to change singers. 622 00:35:04,701 --> 00:35:07,838 Our second record was somewhat of a sophomore slump. 623 00:35:07,938 --> 00:35:10,271 But I don't know, it might have just been the same if 624 00:35:10,273 --> 00:35:11,541 Jesse was in the band too. 625 00:35:12,775 --> 00:35:14,642 I think for me it was important to try and prove 626 00:35:14,644 --> 00:35:16,380 that we could still do it. 627 00:35:17,213 --> 00:35:19,481 Jesse had left and that record was starting to be celebrated 628 00:35:19,483 --> 00:35:22,784 and it's like, well, I'm gonna be stubborn and I want to make 629 00:35:22,786 --> 00:35:25,920 something that's as good, and I don't need him. 630 00:35:25,922 --> 00:35:30,492 Jesse is a very passionate person and he had 631 00:35:30,494 --> 00:35:34,628 some traumatic things happen in his life. 632 00:35:34,630 --> 00:35:40,504 And Misery Signals was his outlet. 633 00:35:41,271 --> 00:35:42,871 Personally I don't think that he ever took the time to 634 00:35:42,873 --> 00:35:45,440 deal with the accident. 635 00:35:45,442 --> 00:35:47,909 He's got this fucking huge weight on his shoulders that I 636 00:35:47,911 --> 00:35:49,978 don't think he ever really spoke about. 637 00:35:49,980 --> 00:35:52,817 Or even digested and dealt with, you know? 638 00:35:53,717 --> 00:35:56,450 He helped make this band what it is. 639 00:35:56,452 --> 00:35:59,320 And I think a lot of that is evident in this anniversary tour 640 00:35:59,322 --> 00:36:02,324 because I haven't seen Misery Signals shows this 641 00:36:02,326 --> 00:36:04,592 crazy in years. And when you see Jesse on 642 00:36:04,594 --> 00:36:08,729 stage he really feels every word that he's yelling. 643 00:36:08,731 --> 00:36:12,467 And don't get me wrong, fans relate to Karl too and the band 644 00:36:12,469 --> 00:36:16,271 is still obviously successful, but who knows what could have 645 00:36:16,273 --> 00:36:19,777 been if he would have, you know, not been ousted from the band. 646 00:36:20,811 --> 00:36:22,776 In "Summary and Stinging Rain" at Braden's place, 647 00:36:22,778 --> 00:36:23,744 that's all I remember. 648 00:36:23,746 --> 00:36:25,315 Yeah, we've spent a lot of time here. 649 00:36:26,550 --> 00:36:30,485 It's where we did a good portion of the writing for "Malice". 650 00:36:30,487 --> 00:36:31,853 This is for surely where I first heard 651 00:36:31,855 --> 00:36:33,621 "Worlds and Dreams" was downstairs. 652 00:36:33,623 --> 00:36:37,394 "End riff to Five Years" too. The very final. 653 00:36:38,262 --> 00:36:39,860 Morgan said "C'mere! C'mere! C'mere!" 654 00:36:39,862 --> 00:36:41,963 and I went downstairs and he said "Check this out." 655 00:36:41,965 --> 00:36:44,633 Yeah "Victim" was here for sure, I remember my guitar amp 656 00:36:44,635 --> 00:36:48,670 was under the steps, and it was so bass-y, so every time we 657 00:36:48,672 --> 00:36:50,671 played the intro it was like "this is sick!" 658 00:36:50,673 --> 00:36:52,509 cause it was so big sounding. 659 00:36:53,677 --> 00:36:56,911 I remember Jesse... we would be down here and Jesse's 660 00:36:56,913 --> 00:37:00,751 on his desk right at the top of the stairs writing lyrics... 661 00:37:02,818 --> 00:37:03,985 Yeah for sure. 662 00:37:03,987 --> 00:37:05,720 That's the basement here? 663 00:37:05,722 --> 00:37:07,421 I don't remember the insulation like that, it's weird. 664 00:37:07,423 --> 00:37:10,425 It's still exposed, it drives Jesse crazy. 665 00:37:10,427 --> 00:37:11,458 Jesse won't go down there. 666 00:37:11,460 --> 00:37:12,495 No. 667 00:37:13,563 --> 00:37:14,762 Is that Stars? 668 00:37:14,764 --> 00:37:17,999 No this is Dinnwoody Lounge. 669 00:37:18,001 --> 00:37:21,403 You guys were still 7 Angels. It wasn't even Misery Signals. 670 00:37:21,405 --> 00:37:23,737 It was 7 Angels 7 Plagues featuring Jesse Zaraska. 671 00:37:23,739 --> 00:37:24,873 Featuring Jesse Zaraska. 672 00:37:24,875 --> 00:37:26,010 Yeah it was featuring. 673 00:37:27,677 --> 00:37:30,412 Damn we were fucking fully traveling with a car-top 674 00:37:30,414 --> 00:37:31,682 carrier and no trailer. 675 00:37:33,684 --> 00:37:36,050 Do you guys remember if this was a release party? 676 00:37:36,052 --> 00:37:38,619 Yeah I believe it would have been. 677 00:37:38,621 --> 00:37:40,688 It was at Megatunes on Whyte avenue and it might have 678 00:37:40,690 --> 00:37:42,057 been the release of "Malice" 679 00:37:42,059 --> 00:37:43,958 The first Misery Signals show in Edmonton, if I can 680 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,730 remember this correctly. 681 00:37:46,862 --> 00:37:49,898 So, this is fuckin insane actually, this story is amazing. 682 00:37:49,900 --> 00:37:52,434 We used to cross into Canada to play and not have any 683 00:37:52,436 --> 00:37:55,570 of the proper documentation or work permits. 684 00:37:55,572 --> 00:37:58,572 So we would always have like back stories, like split up and 685 00:37:58,574 --> 00:38:00,407 go separate ways. 686 00:38:00,409 --> 00:38:03,345 When we left for that tour Ryan had a record so he 687 00:38:03,347 --> 00:38:05,579 couldn't get across the border. 688 00:38:05,581 --> 00:38:08,451 I went to get an ID as my brother. 689 00:38:09,820 --> 00:38:13,487 So I went to the DMV and had his passport like 690 00:38:13,489 --> 00:38:15,456 "Oh I lost my driver's license, I need to get a new one." 691 00:38:15,458 --> 00:38:17,425 And so it was going to be a picture of me. 692 00:38:17,427 --> 00:38:18,592 Even though we look exactly the same. 693 00:38:18,594 --> 00:38:20,729 I don't know why I was trying to go this far cause it's 694 00:38:20,731 --> 00:38:23,565 super brutally criminal thing to do. Got all the paperwork 695 00:38:23,567 --> 00:38:26,400 filled out and was sitting in the waiting area. 696 00:38:26,402 --> 00:38:29,371 And there was like 7 other people there and they called 697 00:38:29,373 --> 00:38:33,007 them up, each one, and got their pictures taken and sent them 698 00:38:33,009 --> 00:38:35,510 off, and I was the last one sitting there. 699 00:38:35,512 --> 00:38:37,412 And I started freaking out because it was taking longer to 700 00:38:37,414 --> 00:38:40,081 do mine and I was like "Oh shit, the cops are just gonna come in 701 00:38:40,083 --> 00:38:41,349 here and take me away". 702 00:38:41,351 --> 00:38:44,786 And then eventually they call me up after what seemed like 3 703 00:38:44,788 --> 00:38:47,688 hours, you know it was probably 10 minutes, but they called me 704 00:38:47,690 --> 00:38:49,657 up and they just handed me the driver's license like 'Oh we 705 00:38:49,659 --> 00:38:51,525 just have your file picture, it's less than 6 months old so 706 00:38:51,527 --> 00:38:53,061 it's just the same picture". 707 00:38:53,063 --> 00:38:58,400 So myself, Branden and Kyle drove in my car. 708 00:38:58,402 --> 00:39:00,168 Jesse and Ryan took the van. 709 00:39:00,170 --> 00:39:03,505 And Ryan got out and got on a Greyhound. 710 00:39:03,507 --> 00:39:06,541 Somewhere in like Montana or something. 711 00:39:06,543 --> 00:39:09,543 So Branden Morgan was crossing in a van over here 712 00:39:09,545 --> 00:39:11,512 and Branden Morgan was crossing in a bus over here 713 00:39:11,514 --> 00:39:12,748 in different provinces. 714 00:39:12,750 --> 00:39:15,182 It was fine cause wasn't the border crossing like some little 715 00:39:15,184 --> 00:39:17,818 shack or something, and this dude was just like "Alright." 716 00:39:17,820 --> 00:39:20,822 The theory was that once Ryan was through, the real 717 00:39:20,824 --> 00:39:23,657 Branden Morgan was with us, so there was no disputing it. 718 00:39:23,659 --> 00:39:26,461 So we're like on payphones. Like get across the border and 719 00:39:26,463 --> 00:39:29,731 we're like "Yeah we did it, we're through" and then we find 720 00:39:29,733 --> 00:39:33,834 out that Jesse, because he was Canadian and he was trying to 721 00:39:33,836 --> 00:39:36,003 bring an American vehicle into the country, they impounded the 722 00:39:36,005 --> 00:39:39,840 vehicle and like held him at the border. 723 00:39:39,842 --> 00:39:43,677 You got stuck at the border, they impounded the van and 724 00:39:43,679 --> 00:39:44,845 then we had to use... 725 00:39:44,847 --> 00:39:46,416 They taped me to a chair. 726 00:39:47,083 --> 00:39:49,818 No they handcuffed me to a duct-taped chair. 727 00:39:49,820 --> 00:39:52,022 And left me sitting there for about an hour. 728 00:39:52,889 --> 00:39:55,590 So we picked you up just walking down the highway too, right? 729 00:39:55,592 --> 00:39:57,691 So they impounded it. 730 00:39:57,693 --> 00:40:00,094 They held him for a while at the border. And then 731 00:40:00,096 --> 00:40:01,963 they just said "Okay you can go" and they sent him walking. 732 00:40:01,965 --> 00:40:05,934 Like he just walked into Canada from the border and we had to 733 00:40:05,936 --> 00:40:08,769 drive like... we were getting so close to Edmonton too, 734 00:40:08,771 --> 00:40:10,505 I was psyched, like we were almost home. 735 00:40:10,507 --> 00:40:13,240 And we had to like detour and go pick him up. 736 00:40:13,242 --> 00:40:16,811 On like the side of the highway. He just called and he's like 737 00:40:16,813 --> 00:40:18,612 "I'll be walking down this highway". 738 00:40:18,614 --> 00:40:20,949 We're like "Okay man like we're just gonna head towards you." 739 00:40:20,951 --> 00:40:23,985 We were like hours away, like driving down this highway 740 00:40:23,987 --> 00:40:25,119 until we found him. 741 00:40:25,121 --> 00:40:28,490 It was probably the most stressful thing about the band 742 00:40:28,492 --> 00:40:30,258 at that time was trying to cross the border. 743 00:40:30,260 --> 00:40:33,026 With members being Canadian and American it was 744 00:40:33,028 --> 00:40:36,567 just this constant thing of back and forth, back and forth right? 745 00:40:37,166 --> 00:40:41,168 We would literally pull apart guitar cabs, take the back 746 00:40:41,170 --> 00:40:44,104 panel off and stuff as many shirts and hoodies into it as we 747 00:40:44,106 --> 00:40:47,608 could and then screw the back back on. 748 00:40:47,610 --> 00:40:50,912 Like the cabs weighed like 80 pounds. It was so obvious. 749 00:40:50,914 --> 00:40:52,947 Which is so ridiculous cause if you had a guy, a border 750 00:40:52,949 --> 00:40:57,017 guard who has any small knowledge of musical equipment, 751 00:40:57,019 --> 00:40:58,952 the minute that he would move that cab he would be like 752 00:40:58,954 --> 00:41:00,188 "This is full of drugs". 753 00:41:01,291 --> 00:41:02,793 100 percent. 754 00:41:07,831 --> 00:41:08,863 Stop. 755 00:41:08,865 --> 00:41:11,068 You can just straighten out a tiny little bit. 756 00:41:11,701 --> 00:41:13,200 This is my hometown show. 757 00:41:13,202 --> 00:41:16,137 This is the club where I first went and saw punk rock bands 758 00:41:16,139 --> 00:41:18,742 when I was 13, 14, 15 years old. 759 00:41:19,643 --> 00:41:22,677 Starlite Room was sort of the bigger club, you know it was 760 00:41:22,679 --> 00:41:25,682 sort of where I hoped we would one day get to. 761 00:41:26,615 --> 00:41:29,050 Misery Signals really had good shows here back in the day and 762 00:41:29,052 --> 00:41:31,019 it's a special place. 763 00:41:31,021 --> 00:41:32,186 We're gonna actually strike the guitars. 764 00:41:32,188 --> 00:41:34,525 2 2 1 2. Check. 765 00:41:35,858 --> 00:41:37,858 When Misery Signals started and Jesse being from the 766 00:41:37,860 --> 00:41:40,595 city and going to the States and joining this band it was a big 767 00:41:40,597 --> 00:41:42,030 deal within the scene. 768 00:41:42,032 --> 00:41:43,865 Especially when "Malice" came out. 769 00:41:43,867 --> 00:41:46,733 I feel like we were more of a local band to Edmonton than we 770 00:41:46,735 --> 00:41:47,969 were to Milwaukee you know? 771 00:41:47,971 --> 00:41:50,704 It was really special for people here, this small 772 00:41:50,706 --> 00:41:53,340 Canadian city to say "Holy... 773 00:41:53,342 --> 00:41:56,276 Stu Ross and Jesse are doing something' you know. They're 774 00:41:56,278 --> 00:42:00,717 having success playing in this fairly big American band." 775 00:42:01,617 --> 00:42:03,217 You know, we were just like this champion of the 776 00:42:03,219 --> 00:42:05,853 fuckin' scene for a minute. 777 00:42:05,855 --> 00:42:08,856 A couple of guys from our home town have joined this American 778 00:42:08,858 --> 00:42:11,092 band and they're like touring. 779 00:42:11,094 --> 00:42:13,161 And that's why I think this show, especially tonight, it's 780 00:42:13,163 --> 00:42:15,565 gonna be like ten years ago. 781 00:42:17,067 --> 00:42:18,999 We're getting pretty close to sold out. 782 00:42:19,001 --> 00:42:20,304 Look at the bins. 783 00:42:20,903 --> 00:42:23,371 Even thought it was a small Canadian city, we always 784 00:42:23,373 --> 00:42:25,706 had such great shows here. 785 00:42:25,708 --> 00:42:28,175 I think Misery Signals and Compromise and 7 Angels, those 786 00:42:28,177 --> 00:42:31,045 bands have been very important to this scene. 787 00:42:31,047 --> 00:42:33,680 It was a special place for us and I think we were a special 788 00:42:33,682 --> 00:42:35,952 band for a lot of the people here. 789 00:42:41,657 --> 00:42:44,561 ♪ Even though I watched us fall, ♪ 790 00:42:46,996 --> 00:42:48,164 ♪ fall away. ♪ 791 00:42:51,300 --> 00:42:55,072 ♪ With determination we all carry on, ♪ 792 00:43:01,311 --> 00:43:04,045 ♪ and with determination ♪ 793 00:43:04,047 --> 00:43:06,150 ♪ we all must live on. ♪ 794 00:43:12,755 --> 00:43:15,625 ♪ We've all learned things from those days, ♪ 795 00:43:17,693 --> 00:43:19,329 ♪ I know that we all have grown, ♪ 796 00:43:23,032 --> 00:43:25,201 ♪ even I now feel a calm ♪ 797 00:43:27,003 --> 00:43:29,907 ♪ like I have never known. ♪ 798 00:43:30,206 --> 00:43:34,345 ♪ like I have never known. ♪ 799 00:43:42,952 --> 00:43:44,888 Thank you so much Edmonton! 800 00:43:47,757 --> 00:43:49,659 It's absolutely wonderful to be home. 801 00:43:52,996 --> 00:43:56,097 When Compromise started there was no scene. 802 00:43:56,099 --> 00:43:58,132 There was a heavy metal scene here, there was a punk rock 803 00:43:58,134 --> 00:44:00,367 scene, there was no such thing as hardcore. 804 00:44:00,369 --> 00:44:03,104 In our community, they were pretty fresh. 805 00:44:03,106 --> 00:44:04,706 Like there wasn't really anyone else that sounded like them. 806 00:44:04,708 --> 00:44:06,240 Like they were kinda the first ones to do that sort 807 00:44:06,242 --> 00:44:07,909 of thing in our scene. 808 00:44:07,911 --> 00:44:09,844 It was a big deal that they were taking steps and 809 00:44:09,846 --> 00:44:12,380 trying to tour and like get down to the States and they 810 00:44:12,382 --> 00:44:14,382 wanted to like be a full time touring band. 811 00:44:14,384 --> 00:44:16,851 It was a big send off when they were going to move to 812 00:44:16,853 --> 00:44:20,153 Toronto when they went on that tour with 7 Angels 7 Plagues. 813 00:44:20,155 --> 00:44:22,389 That too was just like crazy, cause all of us really looked up 814 00:44:22,391 --> 00:44:24,224 to 7 Angels 7 Plagues. 815 00:44:24,226 --> 00:44:26,728 So for them to be doing this tour with them was just nuts. 816 00:44:26,730 --> 00:44:30,231 Many moons ago, some of these fellas took part in 817 00:44:30,233 --> 00:44:33,735 writing what is one of my favorite records... 818 00:44:33,737 --> 00:44:36,204 Check 2, hey hello what's new? 819 00:44:36,206 --> 00:44:39,143 ...it's called Jhazmyne's Lullaby by 7 Angels 7 Plagues. 820 00:44:40,242 --> 00:44:42,744 Jhazmyne's Lullaby was such a huge deal. 821 00:44:42,746 --> 00:44:46,179 I remember always listening to that record so so 822 00:44:46,181 --> 00:44:49,117 much every day, that's all that was in the van. Anytime we went 823 00:44:49,119 --> 00:44:51,321 and played shows in Calgary, anytime we went anywhere. 824 00:44:52,454 --> 00:44:53,720 Is this 7 Angels? 825 00:44:53,722 --> 00:44:56,124 Dan would call home from the road and we would just 826 00:44:56,126 --> 00:44:58,025 be asking him questions about the band and stuff. 827 00:44:58,027 --> 00:45:00,427 We were just so psyched on it like for them to be touring 828 00:45:00,429 --> 00:45:01,963 with was just amazing. 829 00:45:01,965 --> 00:45:03,733 We're 7 Angels 7 Plagues from Milwaukee. 830 00:45:04,934 --> 00:45:07,501 It was awesome meeting those guys and getting to know 831 00:45:07,503 --> 00:45:08,769 them a little bit. 832 00:45:08,771 --> 00:45:11,171 Nine times out of ten you don't really care about the 833 00:45:11,173 --> 00:45:13,374 local bands or the bands that open for you, but we liked 834 00:45:13,376 --> 00:45:14,976 Compromise and thought they were cool, 835 00:45:14,978 --> 00:45:16,209 and I watched them a number of times. 836 00:45:16,211 --> 00:45:17,278 Thank you guys. 837 00:45:19,382 --> 00:45:21,048 We came a long way to be here tonight. 838 00:45:21,050 --> 00:45:22,916 We're from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. 839 00:45:22,918 --> 00:45:24,952 We were getting paid nothing, you know it was like, 840 00:45:24,954 --> 00:45:28,822 young Canadian band, we got these odd... it wasn't like some 841 00:45:28,824 --> 00:45:33,094 amazing west coast or east coast tour, it was like midwest and 842 00:45:33,096 --> 00:45:37,298 into Alabama and stuff like this and it was a long way for us to 843 00:45:37,300 --> 00:45:40,367 go for shows where we were not basically getting paid, maybe I 844 00:45:40,369 --> 00:45:42,269 don't even know I can't even remember we probably got paid a 845 00:45:42,271 --> 00:45:44,171 hundred bucks a show or something like that. 846 00:45:44,173 --> 00:45:47,874 But Jordan was just like 'I got us on these 7 Angels 7 Plagues 847 00:45:47,876 --> 00:45:53,046 shows' and he was so so happy to get on that tour. 848 00:45:53,048 --> 00:45:55,249 They had done a couple tours out to the east coast and 849 00:45:55,251 --> 00:45:58,019 a few times in the States but I had never played music in the 850 00:45:58,021 --> 00:46:00,086 States before myself, that was great. 851 00:46:00,088 --> 00:46:02,990 We were just starting out so everything was still fresh and 852 00:46:02,992 --> 00:46:07,094 innocent we hit the road, we had a tour, it was big, we were 853 00:46:07,096 --> 00:46:10,597 young kids that just couldn't imagine doing anything more fun. 854 00:46:10,599 --> 00:46:12,335 Slow down slow down. 855 00:46:14,503 --> 00:46:18,206 The plan was to do about four weeks and then we 856 00:46:18,208 --> 00:46:21,842 were gonna come to Toronto and just try to make more waves 857 00:46:21,844 --> 00:46:23,476 out on the east coast. 858 00:46:23,478 --> 00:46:26,179 We were really looking forward to those shows with 7 Angels. 859 00:46:26,181 --> 00:46:28,249 The whole trip hinged upon getting across the border. 860 00:46:28,251 --> 00:46:31,117 Border crossings were always a really serious deal for 861 00:46:31,119 --> 00:46:34,856 Jordo and Jesse but I remember we got across and everything 862 00:46:34,858 --> 00:46:38,226 was cool. We went into the gas station and Jordo just walked up 863 00:46:38,228 --> 00:46:42,229 to me and punched me in the back and just started laughing. 864 00:46:42,231 --> 00:46:44,134 And I remember just- 865 00:46:46,068 --> 00:46:49,470 - just the sheer joy in his face and in the punch 866 00:46:49,472 --> 00:46:51,606 it was just like it wasn't... 867 00:46:51,608 --> 00:46:54,909 he was so happy that he was going to get to... 868 00:46:54,911 --> 00:46:58,880 7 Angels was Jordan's Metallica, the gods of gods to him. 869 00:46:58,882 --> 00:47:01,548 It's funny now thinking how much of a pedestal 870 00:47:01,550 --> 00:47:03,550 we put those guys on and looked up to them now that 871 00:47:03,552 --> 00:47:05,353 we're all just buds. 872 00:47:05,355 --> 00:47:07,188 But it would be like playing with Bruce Springsteen or 873 00:47:07,190 --> 00:47:10,423 something, I mean, they were our heroes and they were nice people 874 00:47:10,425 --> 00:47:14,128 that were really genuine and welcoming and were nice to us 875 00:47:14,130 --> 00:47:16,967 and they lived up to everything that we thought. 876 00:47:18,001 --> 00:47:22,403 We met those guys initially in Warsaw, Indiana. 877 00:47:22,405 --> 00:47:25,171 My old band the Pressure Point, we were all on tour together. 878 00:47:25,173 --> 00:47:27,575 But that show ended up getting shut down before we got 879 00:47:27,577 --> 00:47:31,979 a chance to play. So then we moved it down the road. 880 00:47:31,981 --> 00:47:34,014 And it was cool cause like this hall show and it got 881 00:47:34,016 --> 00:47:36,117 shut down and then it moved to this barn. 882 00:47:36,119 --> 00:47:38,619 And then they just set up in a fucking barn and there was like 883 00:47:38,621 --> 00:47:40,588 a giant tractor behind them and they were just rippin' in 884 00:47:40,590 --> 00:47:41,959 front of this tractor. 885 00:47:43,059 --> 00:47:44,425 There is a line in "The Year Summer Ended in June" 886 00:47:44,427 --> 00:47:45,693 about that night in Detroit. 887 00:47:45,695 --> 00:47:47,929 And that was kind of like when we said goodbye to Compromise 888 00:47:47,931 --> 00:47:50,597 cause they were planning to move out east after that tour. 889 00:47:50,599 --> 00:47:54,302 Knowing now what happened and everything, those goodbyes were 890 00:47:54,304 --> 00:47:58,041 so emotional at the time it was super overwhelming as it was. 891 00:47:59,141 --> 00:48:01,041 We were just saying goodbye for a few months, like they were 892 00:48:01,043 --> 00:48:03,110 gonna be coming back through town in September, and this 893 00:48:03,112 --> 00:48:04,679 would have been June. 894 00:48:06,615 --> 00:48:08,715 This might sound far-fetched but I can like still even feel the 895 00:48:08,717 --> 00:48:10,953 hug that I had with Jordan. 896 00:48:13,389 --> 00:48:16,423 We are at some sort of gas station right now and we 897 00:48:16,425 --> 00:48:19,496 noticed something a little weird about it. 898 00:48:25,534 --> 00:48:27,534 Compromise continued on with us and played a 899 00:48:27,536 --> 00:48:29,704 few more shows. They were super nice kids and 900 00:48:29,706 --> 00:48:31,572 we were stoked to be on tour with them at that point. 901 00:48:31,574 --> 00:48:33,374 They took a liking to Jordo and they took 902 00:48:33,376 --> 00:48:35,041 a liking to the band. 903 00:48:35,043 --> 00:48:36,209 We just bonded. 904 00:48:36,211 --> 00:48:38,612 There was this camaraderie that was starting to develop 905 00:48:38,614 --> 00:48:42,650 and we'd only been with those guys six days or something. 906 00:48:42,652 --> 00:48:43,851 Right here. 907 00:48:43,853 --> 00:48:45,686 I remember the last date that we played with them 908 00:48:45,688 --> 00:48:47,423 was in Birmingham, Alabama. 909 00:48:54,496 --> 00:48:56,299 Thank you, we're Compromise. 910 00:48:58,201 --> 00:49:01,534 It was so good, we were accepted by this band that we 911 00:49:01,536 --> 00:49:04,704 looked up to so much, and went out and had this wonderful 912 00:49:04,706 --> 00:49:08,444 dinner with them and everything was going very well. 913 00:49:09,045 --> 00:49:10,681 Everything was going so so well. 914 00:49:12,315 --> 00:49:14,481 We didn't even have a show in Savannah, we were just all 915 00:49:14,483 --> 00:49:16,383 talking and they were like "Let's go tonight, 916 00:49:16,385 --> 00:49:18,151 we'll get you on the show, don't worry about it." 917 00:49:18,153 --> 00:49:21,389 "Just come with us and we'll put you guys on the rest of the 918 00:49:21,391 --> 00:49:24,628 shows, and if they say you guys can't play then we won't play" 919 00:49:25,795 --> 00:49:27,561 It was the most validating experience, they were going to 920 00:49:27,563 --> 00:49:30,334 bat for us even though they'd only known us for a few days. 921 00:49:31,601 --> 00:49:33,566 The plan was for them to caravan with us. 922 00:49:33,568 --> 00:49:37,440 We drove a few hours with them and eventually they fell behind. 923 00:49:38,708 --> 00:49:41,342 Arriving in Savannah, we were at this house where the 924 00:49:41,344 --> 00:49:44,278 show was supposed to be and Compromise still hadn't shown up 925 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,283 and it started to become a concern. 926 00:49:46,715 --> 00:49:48,548 Compromise was carrying so much shit with them cause 927 00:49:48,550 --> 00:49:49,816 they were moving. 928 00:49:49,818 --> 00:49:52,052 And they just had this fucking shitty van that they had like 929 00:49:52,054 --> 00:49:55,423 ram-packed with all their gear, all their personal belongings, 930 00:49:55,425 --> 00:49:58,260 all this shit just ram jammed into like one fuckin' van. 931 00:49:58,795 --> 00:50:01,298 So it was super heavy and shitty as it was. 932 00:50:01,731 --> 00:50:05,102 And our van just couldn't keep up, they had brand new vans, 933 00:50:06,501 --> 00:50:09,405 you know like those ones and we had an old school van. 934 00:50:10,505 --> 00:50:13,340 We just couldn't keep up and then it... 935 00:50:13,342 --> 00:50:14,778 and then stuff happened. 936 00:50:20,782 --> 00:50:23,083 We were always worried our van was gonna die so we 937 00:50:23,085 --> 00:50:26,253 drove slower than everybody else and they got in front of us. 938 00:50:26,255 --> 00:50:28,222 And at that point I think we were all sleeping except for 939 00:50:28,224 --> 00:50:30,059 Jesse who was driving. 940 00:50:33,161 --> 00:50:35,798 I remember we all filled up with gas and that was... 941 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,101 I mean that's the last memory I personally have up until 942 00:50:40,103 --> 00:50:43,039 like a month or two later. 943 00:50:43,539 --> 00:50:46,240 It's been a difficult day for fans of 944 00:50:46,242 --> 00:50:49,309 Edmonton's hardcore music scene and the families of two 945 00:50:49,311 --> 00:50:51,579 up-and-coming musicians killed in a highway crash. 946 00:50:51,581 --> 00:50:53,750 Trevadore Shanko has the latest on that tragedy. 947 00:50:57,385 --> 00:51:00,521 This is Compromise performing recently on stage. 948 00:51:00,523 --> 00:51:03,224 The Edmonton band's tour came to a crashing halt Thursday 949 00:51:03,226 --> 00:51:04,825 on the road in Alabama. 950 00:51:04,827 --> 00:51:06,894 I fought with them so much cause they were leaving for 951 00:51:06,896 --> 00:51:10,798 six months and I didn't want them to leave and, you know, 952 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,800 six months would have been a lot better than forever. 953 00:51:13,802 --> 00:51:17,137 Claire Wyrostock's close friend is 19-year-old 954 00:51:17,139 --> 00:51:18,405 Jordan Wodehouse. 955 00:51:18,407 --> 00:51:20,541 He gave her these pictures of himself shortly before he and 956 00:51:20,543 --> 00:51:23,443 the other four members of Compromise headed out on tour. 957 00:51:23,445 --> 00:51:26,579 Early thursday morning outside of Heflin Alabama, the band's 958 00:51:26,581 --> 00:51:30,284 van was struck from behind by a Nissan Pathfinder. The van lost 959 00:51:30,286 --> 00:51:33,454 control and hit a tree throwing everyone from the vehicle. 960 00:51:33,456 --> 00:51:36,393 Wodehouse and 20-year-old Daniel Langois were killed. 961 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,927 19-year-old bassist Braden Sustrik remains in intensive 962 00:51:39,929 --> 00:51:42,530 care with a punctured lung and fractured vertebrae. 963 00:51:42,532 --> 00:51:46,200 23-year-old singer Jesse Zaraska received cuts and bruises. 964 00:51:46,202 --> 00:51:48,702 And 20-year-old drummer Ryan Kittlitz broke his left wrist 965 00:51:48,704 --> 00:51:50,273 and right leg. 966 00:51:51,641 --> 00:51:54,441 Yeah here we are. This is after the accident, 967 00:51:54,443 --> 00:51:57,278 and this would be Braden in the hospital, Jesse who 968 00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:01,585 stayed with them while they recovered in Alabama. 969 00:52:02,284 --> 00:52:04,284 This is I guess a picture where it happened. 970 00:52:04,286 --> 00:52:06,622 I never went down the because I couldn't stomach it. 971 00:52:07,523 --> 00:52:10,356 I get this phone call from the officials down in Alabama saying 972 00:52:10,358 --> 00:52:13,760 that there had been an accident and that there had been some 973 00:52:13,762 --> 00:52:15,699 fatalities and they couldn't tell me who. 974 00:52:16,331 --> 00:52:19,465 I think instinctively I knew that Jesse was okay, but knowing 975 00:52:19,467 --> 00:52:22,735 those boys as well as I knew all those boys it was sick no 976 00:52:22,737 --> 00:52:25,905 matter how. They got rear ended by a drunk driver who pushed 977 00:52:25,907 --> 00:52:29,709 them into this grove of trees somehow and snapped the van 978 00:52:29,711 --> 00:52:32,246 pretty much in half. 979 00:52:32,248 --> 00:52:33,847 Junior went out the front window, Braden went out the 980 00:52:33,849 --> 00:52:36,416 front window, Jesse went out the windshield and somehow cause 981 00:52:36,418 --> 00:52:39,619 he's like fucking Iron Man, didn't have like a fuckin, 982 00:52:39,621 --> 00:52:41,790 I think he broke a rib or something you know like... 983 00:52:43,458 --> 00:52:46,459 and so he went back to the van and he just like ran around 984 00:52:46,461 --> 00:52:47,762 and found everybody. 985 00:52:47,764 --> 00:52:50,930 First he found Junior, he was awake so he picked him up 986 00:52:50,932 --> 00:52:53,499 and went to look for everyone else. But Junior 987 00:52:53,501 --> 00:52:55,501 had broken his leg and didn't know it so as soon as he 988 00:52:55,503 --> 00:52:58,338 went to walk he just fell over in pain and he was screaming. 989 00:52:58,340 --> 00:53:00,307 "Jesse hang out with me" and Jesse said 990 00:53:00,309 --> 00:53:02,508 "Man I gotta find everyone else first". 991 00:53:02,510 --> 00:53:05,679 So then he looked and he saw me next and I was laying down 992 00:53:05,681 --> 00:53:08,717 and I was breathing but I wasn't conscious. 993 00:53:10,385 --> 00:53:13,887 He said it seemed like I was alright so he left me be for a 994 00:53:13,889 --> 00:53:18,391 bit and went looking and he said at that point he saw a 995 00:53:18,393 --> 00:53:21,394 semi-truck had pulled over on the side of the highway and the 996 00:53:21,396 --> 00:53:24,697 driver had got out and was walking towards him so he 997 00:53:24,699 --> 00:53:27,867 ran over. And the guy said "I radioed for an ambulance, 998 00:53:27,869 --> 00:53:31,271 they're on their way. And I think your friend is up 999 00:53:31,273 --> 00:53:34,344 there on the road and I think he's been run over." 1000 00:53:35,543 --> 00:53:38,214 Jesse was just like "What the fuck are you doing then? 1001 00:53:38,547 --> 00:53:40,046 Coward, what the fuck is wrong with you?" 1002 00:53:40,048 --> 00:53:42,851 and had to run down the road and pick Dan up. 1003 00:53:43,585 --> 00:53:46,586 I guess like we found out later that he'd fallen out 1004 00:53:46,588 --> 00:53:49,523 the back window of the van when we got hit, 1005 00:53:49,525 --> 00:53:52,025 or like the back door opened and he fell out and then he 1006 00:53:52,027 --> 00:53:55,264 got run over by the car that hit us. 1007 00:53:56,666 --> 00:53:58,932 So Jesse picked him up and like carried him off to the edge of 1008 00:53:58,934 --> 00:54:01,001 the road and held him. 1009 00:54:01,003 --> 00:54:05,338 He said he was alive but he was in pretty rough shape and he 1010 00:54:05,340 --> 00:54:07,807 didn't know what to do, but he didn't know where Jordan was. 1011 00:54:07,809 --> 00:54:10,878 So he kinda set Dan down and told him he'd be back and he ran 1012 00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:15,349 back down and he looked around and the last place he went to 1013 00:54:15,351 --> 00:54:16,820 look was the van. 1014 00:54:19,554 --> 00:54:20,823 I found him. 1015 00:54:21,891 --> 00:54:26,492 I pulled all that fuckin weight off him 1016 00:54:26,494 --> 00:54:28,864 and pulled him out of that stupid fucking van. 1017 00:54:31,367 --> 00:54:33,403 And he looked untouched. 1018 00:54:34,369 --> 00:54:37,039 He wasn't bloody, he wasn't messed up. 1019 00:54:37,940 --> 00:54:39,409 He was fine. 1020 00:54:40,576 --> 00:54:43,713 I thought he's okay, he's just knocked out or something. 1021 00:54:46,047 --> 00:54:48,449 And the paramedics got there pretty soon. 1022 00:54:48,451 --> 00:54:50,619 The woman came down and I showed them where he was. 1023 00:54:53,822 --> 00:54:56,358 And she just said "He's gone. He's gone." 1024 00:55:04,065 --> 00:55:06,035 It was a fucking horrible night. 1025 00:55:11,974 --> 00:55:16,744 As messed up as I was, I wouldn't trade that for having 1026 00:55:16,746 --> 00:55:20,550 to be Jesse or deal with that night and have that memory. 1027 00:55:21,717 --> 00:55:24,753 I don't know how he got past that. 1028 00:55:29,858 --> 00:55:31,724 I remember I was at my parent's house 1029 00:55:31,726 --> 00:55:32,959 at the time in the middle of the night. 1030 00:55:32,961 --> 00:55:35,729 I just got a phone call that there had been this accident. 1031 00:55:35,731 --> 00:55:37,831 They didn't really know for sure yet what happened. 1032 00:55:37,833 --> 00:55:41,168 I was just running around my house literally screaming. 1033 00:55:41,170 --> 00:55:44,737 Like just I didn't know what the hell to do. 1034 00:55:44,739 --> 00:55:48,909 Still in shock like hoping that it wasn't true. 1035 00:55:48,911 --> 00:55:51,912 We saw something on a message board that was 1036 00:55:51,914 --> 00:55:57,818 kind of cryptic, and it was about those guys and honoring 1037 00:55:57,820 --> 00:56:02,054 them and their memory living on and stuff, and we 1038 00:56:02,056 --> 00:56:05,858 didn't really understand what they were talking about. 1039 00:56:05,860 --> 00:56:10,065 Our band email had an email I believe from Jordan's parents. 1040 00:56:10,932 --> 00:56:14,168 It wasn't really informing us what happened as much as it was 1041 00:56:14,170 --> 00:56:19,639 them expressing to us how much our band meant to them. 1042 00:56:19,641 --> 00:56:22,511 And um... excuse me... 1043 00:56:25,981 --> 00:56:29,048 how much they appreciated the fact that their children got 1044 00:56:29,050 --> 00:56:32,389 to spend their last moments doing... 1045 00:56:35,123 --> 00:56:36,757 spend their last moments 1046 00:56:36,759 --> 00:56:38,628 doing what they love to do with their favorite band. 1047 00:56:39,461 --> 00:56:43,032 When I first heard about it, I think Dan was still alive 1048 00:56:44,532 --> 00:56:46,935 and there was a chance that he was going to live, 1049 00:56:48,204 --> 00:56:50,907 but yeah he was just so fucked up like... 1050 00:56:52,141 --> 00:56:54,141 I mean the shit Jesse's told me, 1051 00:56:54,143 --> 00:56:57,179 I don't even want to talk about cause it's super... 1052 00:56:58,581 --> 00:57:00,646 it's really graphic, and it's fucking sad. 1053 00:57:00,648 --> 00:57:01,518 But... 1054 00:57:15,197 --> 00:57:17,099 It's fucking brutal, man. 1055 00:57:26,041 --> 00:57:28,208 They were two of my best friends at the time, and 1056 00:57:28,210 --> 00:57:30,978 I just really looked forward to a future getting to know 1057 00:57:30,980 --> 00:57:34,548 those guys. It's taken too short, they were both only 1058 00:57:34,550 --> 00:57:37,653 19 years old, like, looking back we were just babies. 1059 00:57:39,822 --> 00:57:41,791 It's fucking tragedy. 1060 00:57:42,291 --> 00:57:45,157 I try not to talk about it unless Jesse wants to talk 1061 00:57:45,159 --> 00:57:48,262 about it. Some of the mothers, like the two mothers who lost 1062 00:57:48,264 --> 00:57:52,900 their children, had the report - the accident report, said 1063 00:57:52,902 --> 00:57:55,101 "Here you want to read it you want to read what happened?" 1064 00:57:55,103 --> 00:57:57,070 and I was like "No I don't wanna read what happened." 1065 00:57:57,072 --> 00:58:00,941 I can't imagine my child in the dark with his friends around him 1066 00:58:00,943 --> 00:58:06,579 not with him anymore and Braden and Junior not being able 1067 00:58:06,581 --> 00:58:09,148 to move, not being able to do anything and Jesse being lost in 1068 00:58:09,150 --> 00:58:11,217 the dark wondering what to do. 1069 00:58:11,219 --> 00:58:14,588 And it just it still still still kills me every time I think 1070 00:58:14,590 --> 00:58:17,958 about it, let alone sitting and reading about somebody having to 1071 00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,126 go through that sort of thing. 1072 00:58:20,128 --> 00:58:22,563 So whenever Jesse talks about it we talk about it but I don't 1073 00:58:22,565 --> 00:58:24,998 want the details I don't want to know the details. 1074 00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:29,036 And when you listen to him sing 'The Year Summer Ended In June' 1075 00:58:29,038 --> 00:58:31,304 you know how he feels about it. There's no doubt in your mind 1076 00:58:31,306 --> 00:58:34,943 how he feels about what happened and that dark night. 1077 00:58:39,213 --> 00:58:42,951 After that tour ended that was when Temo quit the band. 1078 00:58:44,253 --> 00:58:48,021 When I came home and found out that Temo had left. As hurt 1079 00:58:48,023 --> 00:58:51,958 as I was from the crash, I knew that that's what I had to do. 1080 00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,695 I said "Hey this is Jesse, singer of Compromise, I'm more 1081 00:58:54,697 --> 00:58:57,731 than willing to come down there and try out any time." 1082 00:58:57,733 --> 00:58:59,967 It felt like the right thing to do, it felt like 1083 00:58:59,969 --> 00:59:02,235 something had brought us together. 1084 00:59:02,237 --> 00:59:04,704 I think he looked at it as an opportunity to carry on their 1085 00:59:04,706 --> 00:59:07,374 legacy through the band that they love and the band that 1086 00:59:07,376 --> 00:59:10,280 they ended their life with. 1087 00:59:17,318 --> 00:59:20,186 So Jesse met up with us in the States and came back to 1088 00:59:20,188 --> 00:59:23,725 Milwaukee to be the new singer of 7 Angels 7 Plagues. 1089 00:59:24,259 --> 00:59:27,693 We continued to write and rehearse for an EP that we were 1090 00:59:27,695 --> 00:59:30,998 working on, and we ended up in the studio not long after that. 1091 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:34,300 And that's when Jared gave us a call to inform us that 1092 00:59:34,302 --> 00:59:37,606 Matt and himself were going to be quitting the band. 1093 00:59:39,007 --> 00:59:41,173 There was never a point where we weren't gonna continue 1094 00:59:41,175 --> 00:59:44,978 on, it was like "He quit, okay, screw it whatever. 1095 00:59:44,980 --> 00:59:47,380 We're just gonna continue on", and we did. 1096 00:59:47,382 --> 00:59:49,749 But at that point we had already planned to do this 1097 00:59:49,751 --> 00:59:51,651 'Yesterday Was Everything' festival. 1098 00:59:51,653 --> 00:59:55,188 Jordan's father thought it was a great idea to, only a few 1099 00:59:55,190 --> 00:59:58,825 months after the crash, raise awareness for drunk driving, 1100 00:59:58,827 --> 01:00:02,662 to celebrate his son you know. It was an amazing idea. 1101 01:00:02,664 --> 01:00:04,264 And he put it together so quick. 1102 01:00:04,266 --> 01:00:08,334 And the city just really really latched on to the idea. 1103 01:00:08,336 --> 01:00:10,269 And 7 Angels were supposed to play, and it was 1104 01:00:10,271 --> 01:00:11,972 such a big fucking deal man. 1105 01:00:11,974 --> 01:00:14,675 Like it was the craziest shit that they were gonna come up and 1106 01:00:14,677 --> 01:00:16,443 play this show and that Jesse was gonna be singing. 1107 01:00:16,445 --> 01:00:18,244 Like it was like "Holy shit! 1108 01:00:18,246 --> 01:00:19,882 This is crazy," you know? 1109 01:00:20,349 --> 01:00:22,349 It was planned, we were gonna do it and then all of 1110 01:00:22,351 --> 01:00:24,717 a sudden Jared just says "I'm not gonna do it." You know. 1111 01:00:24,719 --> 01:00:28,054 And I'm so bummed I phoned him and you know, begged him, 1112 01:00:28,056 --> 01:00:30,257 "You gotta come, you don't know what this show is gonna 1113 01:00:30,259 --> 01:00:32,425 do it's gonna be healing. 1114 01:00:32,427 --> 01:00:34,961 It's gonna heal people. People need us there to play 1115 01:00:34,963 --> 01:00:36,963 those songs, it means the world to people." 1116 01:00:36,965 --> 01:00:40,099 At least come up and do this last run of shows and then 1117 01:00:40,101 --> 01:00:42,401 we'll all call it quits. 1118 01:00:42,403 --> 01:00:44,740 But they refused. 1119 01:00:45,708 --> 01:00:48,275 I think at that time we had never made a trip like that. 1120 01:00:48,277 --> 01:00:51,278 Like Edmonton was a place that we had never really probably 1121 01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,447 heard of before meeting these guys. 1122 01:00:54,449 --> 01:00:57,753 And it was you know a 30 hour drive from Milwaukee. 1123 01:00:58,853 --> 01:01:01,722 So I feel like that was just something that was too much for 1124 01:01:01,724 --> 01:01:04,458 them to wrap their heads around. 1125 01:01:04,460 --> 01:01:06,892 Kind of spineless and a bitch move to bail out when 1126 01:01:06,894 --> 01:01:08,061 there's that many people like... 1127 01:01:08,063 --> 01:01:10,262 it sounds like weird, but when there's that many people 1128 01:01:10,264 --> 01:01:12,432 depending on you. Because they were. 1129 01:01:12,434 --> 01:01:17,237 Like everybody needed like to be consoled in a way and that show 1130 01:01:17,239 --> 01:01:19,809 was like a way that that was going to happen, you know? 1131 01:01:20,775 --> 01:01:22,778 And luckily Branden just stepped up. 1132 01:01:23,344 --> 01:01:26,248 He learned the songs very well, very quickly. 1133 01:01:27,483 --> 01:01:29,849 The first time I went to Edmonton Braden was still in 1134 01:01:29,851 --> 01:01:33,920 a back brace and Junior was on crutches. 1135 01:01:33,922 --> 01:01:37,423 It was so soon after that the surviving members from the crash 1136 01:01:37,425 --> 01:01:39,825 were still recuperating. 1137 01:01:39,827 --> 01:01:42,929 We roll into town and we just have this like aura around 1138 01:01:42,931 --> 01:01:47,133 us automatically, just based on who we are and our involvement 1139 01:01:47,135 --> 01:01:51,037 with their friends who passed away, you know, weeks earlier. 1140 01:01:51,039 --> 01:01:53,440 We just immediately were taken in like we were a 1141 01:01:53,442 --> 01:01:56,242 part of the family. I just never experienced 1142 01:01:56,244 --> 01:01:59,079 love like that from people I'd never met. 1143 01:01:59,081 --> 01:02:02,414 Yeah I mean that band was like a... 1144 01:02:02,416 --> 01:02:06,153 you know they were like the flag for healing in a weird way. 1145 01:02:06,155 --> 01:02:11,458 And that festival was an extremely special time for 1146 01:02:11,460 --> 01:02:15,061 Jordan's family, for my family, for Braden's family, 1147 01:02:15,063 --> 01:02:16,862 for all of us Compromise guys. 1148 01:02:16,864 --> 01:02:21,001 Just to get together and you know, pay respects to 1149 01:02:21,003 --> 01:02:24,436 Dan and Jordan. You know they gave their lives for 1150 01:02:24,438 --> 01:02:26,873 that music so to be able to put on a fest where 1151 01:02:26,875 --> 01:02:29,075 everyone could get together and remember them. 1152 01:02:29,077 --> 01:02:32,845 I didn't get to go to either one of the funerals, 1153 01:02:32,847 --> 01:02:35,081 so for me on a personal level, it was kind of like a 1154 01:02:35,083 --> 01:02:36,983 celebration of what had happened, but then 1155 01:02:36,985 --> 01:02:39,952 kind of a celebration of the future. I mean Jesse came back 1156 01:02:39,954 --> 01:02:43,856 with his new band, and there was a lot of optimism. You know, 1157 01:02:43,858 --> 01:02:46,862 this really sad thing, but we were trying to move forward. 1158 01:02:48,896 --> 01:02:50,866 We're 7 Angels 7 Plagues from Milwaukee Wisconsin. 1159 01:02:51,266 --> 01:02:52,902 Let's have some fun. 1160 01:02:58,407 --> 01:02:59,442 ♪ With plastic face designs ♪ 1161 01:03:03,077 --> 01:03:05,010 The fact that we were a four-piece didn't matter. 1162 01:03:05,012 --> 01:03:08,180 We weren't 7 Angels in it's original inception, but the 1163 01:03:08,182 --> 01:03:12,251 crowd and the emotion behind it drove the show. 1164 01:03:12,253 --> 01:03:17,289 I remember being on stage, and looking over side-stage and 1165 01:03:17,291 --> 01:03:21,429 seeing Stuart side-stage just in tears while we were playing. 1166 01:03:23,565 --> 01:03:27,400 This is what it all was leading up to, and we were finally here 1167 01:03:27,402 --> 01:03:29,972 honoring the memory of these kids. 1168 01:03:31,405 --> 01:03:35,577 I thank you all, every one of you. 1169 01:03:37,278 --> 01:03:40,947 Jordan thanks you all, he's smiling big time no doubt. 1170 01:03:49,891 --> 01:03:53,293 I wanna know that you'll all be here next year. 1171 01:03:58,666 --> 01:04:00,432 Cause you know what? 1172 01:04:00,434 --> 01:04:03,570 As long as I'm Jordan's dad, this is gonna happen every year. 1173 01:04:07,376 --> 01:04:09,642 Yeah, through Yesterday Was Everything Fest, 1174 01:04:09,644 --> 01:04:13,045 and even the formation of Misery Signals, everything is... 1175 01:04:13,047 --> 01:04:16,115 not closure, but it's, you know, 1176 01:04:16,117 --> 01:04:18,420 helped us all cope with it in some way. 1177 01:04:24,458 --> 01:04:27,629 Good, you? What did you guys end up doing last night? 1178 01:04:28,697 --> 01:04:30,566 Not much, we got out of the club pretty late. 1179 01:04:31,532 --> 01:04:33,168 Oh fuck. This is crazy. 1180 01:04:34,402 --> 01:04:37,003 JFK, what the fuck are you doing to me man? 1181 01:04:37,005 --> 01:04:39,572 What is this? This is a joke right, 1182 01:04:39,574 --> 01:04:42,043 we're getting punked right now, right? What the fuck? 1183 01:04:52,954 --> 01:04:55,554 We had already decided that we were going to 1184 01:04:55,556 --> 01:04:58,992 break up 7 Angels and start a new project. 1185 01:04:58,994 --> 01:05:01,561 So Jeff like came out, and was in the band, they wrote 1186 01:05:01,563 --> 01:05:03,530 that EP, and recorded it, and they just hit the road. 1187 01:05:03,532 --> 01:05:05,465 I feel like it happened in no time, because they were in 1188 01:05:05,467 --> 01:05:08,969 Edmonton doing that shit in June, and I feel like they were 1189 01:05:08,971 --> 01:05:12,604 on tour for the Misery Signals EP by October or something. 1190 01:05:12,606 --> 01:05:15,076 It happened super fast. 1191 01:05:16,744 --> 01:05:19,347 And then luckily for me Jeff quit the band. 1192 01:05:20,449 --> 01:05:23,316 For Misery Signals to put out that first EP where a 1193 01:05:23,318 --> 01:05:25,150 lot of it dealt with that accident, 1194 01:05:25,152 --> 01:05:26,485 that was a pretty major thing. 1195 01:05:26,487 --> 01:05:29,488 The song "The Year Summer Ended in June" is probably one of the 1196 01:05:29,490 --> 01:05:32,691 most personal and touching songs I've ever heard, because it's 1197 01:05:32,693 --> 01:05:35,427 written about our friends and what we all went through. 1198 01:05:35,429 --> 01:05:37,664 When you're a band that makes songs, no matter how 1199 01:05:37,666 --> 01:05:41,001 personal they are, once you put em out there and they become 1200 01:05:41,003 --> 01:05:43,670 special to other people for their own reasons, 1201 01:05:43,672 --> 01:05:46,206 they cease to be just personal. 1202 01:05:46,208 --> 01:05:48,374 They're still personal songs, and they can still mean that to 1203 01:05:48,376 --> 01:05:50,476 you, but they mean so many things to so many other people 1204 01:05:50,478 --> 01:05:52,445 that the life of the song is beyond just 1205 01:05:52,447 --> 01:05:54,250 your experience with it. 1206 01:05:55,083 --> 01:05:58,083 I didn't necessarily write the riffs and have that in mind, but 1207 01:05:58,085 --> 01:06:01,588 I know it had a feel to it, and a texture that was definitely 1208 01:06:01,590 --> 01:06:04,691 drawn from the environment that we were in emotionally 1209 01:06:04,693 --> 01:06:07,394 at the time. But the time that it took it's true 1210 01:06:07,396 --> 01:06:08,698 form is when Jesse wrote the lyrics. 1211 01:06:09,364 --> 01:06:12,664 We want to call to the stage, our good friend, 1212 01:06:12,666 --> 01:06:16,336 our brother Mr. Ryan "Junior" Kittlitz to the 1213 01:06:16,338 --> 01:06:17,771 play the next song with us. 1214 01:06:21,742 --> 01:06:25,144 This next song is likely the most important song that we 1215 01:06:25,146 --> 01:06:28,150 wrote, or at least that I wrote I feel, on this record. 1216 01:06:29,384 --> 01:06:31,583 This song is called The Year Summer Ended in June. 1217 01:06:46,467 --> 01:06:50,470 Who knows what turn their lives could have taken, but at 1218 01:06:50,472 --> 01:06:52,775 the time, all those dudes wanted to do was tour and play music. 1219 01:07:21,369 --> 01:07:23,639 ...and how you're always with me. 1220 01:07:26,407 --> 01:07:31,344 In a weird, sad way, without the accident happening, 1221 01:07:31,346 --> 01:07:35,447 and without Jordan and Dan passing away, I don't know if I 1222 01:07:35,449 --> 01:07:38,150 would ever have played guitar for Misery Signals, 1223 01:07:38,152 --> 01:07:41,156 or done all the touring, met all the people that I've met. 1224 01:07:43,358 --> 01:07:44,593 I wouldn't have met my wife. 1225 01:07:45,427 --> 01:07:46,892 It changed my life. 1226 01:07:46,894 --> 01:07:48,764 It literally changed the course of my life. 1227 01:07:50,364 --> 01:07:54,501 I feel so selfish saying it, but without the accident happening, 1228 01:07:54,503 --> 01:07:57,472 all the good things in my life might not exist. 1229 01:08:01,543 --> 01:08:04,376 Compromise asked me to go on tour with them, 1230 01:08:04,378 --> 01:08:07,179 on that tour that the accident happened. 1231 01:08:07,181 --> 01:08:10,383 Weird to think back on, had I gone on that tour, I would have 1232 01:08:10,385 --> 01:08:12,918 been in that accident too, and who knows if I would have still 1233 01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:14,756 been here right now. 1234 01:08:16,224 --> 01:08:18,357 Shit y'know, the same thing could happen to us, 1235 01:08:18,359 --> 01:08:21,326 there could be another accident, and I might not be here. 1236 01:08:21,328 --> 01:08:24,464 It's one of those things that's always on your mind that it 1237 01:08:24,466 --> 01:08:26,569 could happen to you. 1238 01:08:42,716 --> 01:08:44,217 You hear that? 1239 01:08:44,219 --> 01:08:46,521 We will finish earlier than planned. 1240 01:08:47,454 --> 01:08:50,626 9:35 to 10:30 for us roughly. 1241 01:08:52,594 --> 01:08:55,495 So we could be out of here by midnight and still get a decent 1242 01:08:55,497 --> 01:08:58,865 amount of sleep before we have to get up. We have nowhere set 1243 01:08:58,867 --> 01:09:01,334 to go in Minneapolis, so we'll be there all day. 1244 01:09:01,336 --> 01:09:04,273 We could even leave at six, if we wanted to be safe. 1245 01:09:13,715 --> 01:09:15,251 Jesse's car broke down. 1246 01:09:17,252 --> 01:09:19,218 They are four and a half hours away, which is an hour later 1247 01:09:19,220 --> 01:09:21,856 than we're supposed to play. 1248 01:09:23,390 --> 01:09:26,692 We don't want to leave an hour between Waster and us 1249 01:09:26,694 --> 01:09:29,629 with the kids waiting. So we should realistically 1250 01:09:29,631 --> 01:09:33,235 try and plan for a 10:30 stage time, maybe even 11:00. 1251 01:09:34,002 --> 01:09:36,369 Which sucks for a Monday night. 1252 01:09:36,371 --> 01:09:38,338 Wanna know what I really think happened? They probably just 1253 01:09:38,340 --> 01:09:40,940 left their house super late, that's what I think. 1254 01:09:42,944 --> 01:09:44,811 They stayed at their own house. 1255 01:09:44,813 --> 01:09:46,448 These are the new times. 1256 01:09:47,548 --> 01:09:50,750 Doors at 7:15, we'll just push the opener back to 8:15, 1257 01:09:50,752 --> 01:09:54,920 to 8:45, and then 20 minute changeover for them, 1258 01:09:54,922 --> 01:09:57,924 with a half hour set, give us a half hour changeover, 1259 01:09:57,926 --> 01:09:59,525 that puts us on at 10:00. 1260 01:09:59,527 --> 01:10:01,361 And we can stall from there if we have to? 1261 01:10:01,363 --> 01:10:02,629 I was thinking about this, 1262 01:10:02,631 --> 01:10:06,499 we can't really go past 10:45. 10:30 is usually where we cut 1263 01:10:06,501 --> 01:10:09,568 it on weekdays, so fifteen minutes late as it is. 1264 01:10:09,570 --> 01:10:11,004 We just had a situation. 1265 01:10:11,006 --> 01:10:14,473 Our singer is traveling separately, and had car trouble. 1266 01:10:14,475 --> 01:10:17,677 So he's actually roughly four hours away still. 1267 01:10:17,679 --> 01:10:19,044 - Really? - Yeah 1268 01:10:19,046 --> 01:10:20,381 Oh my god. 1269 01:10:21,382 --> 01:10:23,415 We could get on by 10:00 at the earliest. 1270 01:10:23,417 --> 01:10:24,619 Okay. 1271 01:10:25,686 --> 01:10:28,053 So, is there a curfew, is the curfew 11:00? 1272 01:10:28,055 --> 01:10:29,757 - Yeah, yeah it is. - Okay. 1273 01:10:31,059 --> 01:10:33,893 So I guess the best that we could hope for is, if he 1274 01:10:33,895 --> 01:10:36,932 arrives before 10:00 then we'll go on as soon as he gets here. 1275 01:10:38,365 --> 01:10:41,334 Are we sure he's not exaggerating like "oh dude I'll 1276 01:10:41,336 --> 01:10:43,303 be there at 10:00, no problem." 1277 01:10:43,305 --> 01:10:46,705 He said he's four hours away about 45 minutes ago, and 1278 01:10:46,707 --> 01:10:48,610 it's 6:23 right now so... 1279 01:10:50,679 --> 01:10:53,513 I'm just gonna have him keep me updated as time goes on. 1280 01:10:53,515 --> 01:10:55,584 I don't know what else we can do really. 1281 01:10:56,951 --> 01:10:59,018 If we have to play half the album 1282 01:10:59,020 --> 01:11:01,423 and that's it, then so be it. 1283 01:11:03,524 --> 01:11:05,625 If he goes past 10:00 O'clock we're cutting songs, 1284 01:11:05,627 --> 01:11:07,296 and cutting time off the set, so- 1285 01:11:08,496 --> 01:11:11,930 And cutting songs from a set of nine shows for 1286 01:11:11,932 --> 01:11:13,969 a ten-year anniversary of a record. 1287 01:11:15,403 --> 01:11:16,438 Right. 1288 01:11:17,404 --> 01:11:18,470 It's not just like a regular show, y'know? 1289 01:11:18,472 --> 01:11:21,042 Right, it's not like we'll be back in two months. 1290 01:11:22,711 --> 01:11:25,510 Out of ten shows, it was bound to happen that their car 1291 01:11:25,512 --> 01:11:27,416 would break down at some point. 1292 01:11:27,849 --> 01:11:29,051 So it's just no surprise. 1293 01:11:30,551 --> 01:11:32,487 I mean there's shit back in the day where like, 1294 01:11:33,488 --> 01:11:36,057 we'd be on stage, ready to play. 1295 01:11:37,391 --> 01:11:39,892 And the tour manager from the other band would be like "Start! 1296 01:11:39,894 --> 01:11:41,797 You guys are fuckin five minutes over already, start!" 1297 01:11:43,832 --> 01:11:45,501 And we'd just start without him. 1298 01:11:49,804 --> 01:11:52,138 ...your name, the band, and 1299 01:11:52,140 --> 01:11:54,941 "You're listening to Radioactive Metal." 1300 01:11:54,943 --> 01:11:56,476 Can I just get you to say that. 1301 01:11:56,478 --> 01:11:57,346 Okay. 1302 01:11:57,779 --> 01:11:58,977 You ready for it? Whenever? 1303 01:11:58,979 --> 01:12:00,079 Yup, whenever. 1304 01:12:00,081 --> 01:12:01,848 Hey what's up, this is Ryan from Misery Signals and 1305 01:12:01,850 --> 01:12:03,652 you're listening to Radioactive Metal. 1306 01:12:05,019 --> 01:12:06,622 Excellent. 1307 01:12:09,923 --> 01:12:12,328 So the band before you is going on now? 1308 01:12:15,963 --> 01:12:16,832 Yes 1309 01:12:21,668 --> 01:12:25,036 We've dealt with this shit with Jesse forever. 1310 01:12:25,038 --> 01:12:27,639 We've known about all these things. Whatever. 1311 01:12:27,641 --> 01:12:30,942 My goal from the start was just to try and get this thing to 1312 01:12:30,944 --> 01:12:34,446 actually happen, and I knew that there would be some sacrifices 1313 01:12:34,448 --> 01:12:38,686 because Jesse is just out of his mind in ways. 1314 01:12:40,889 --> 01:12:44,055 I couldn't do this with Jesse on a regular basis. 1315 01:12:44,057 --> 01:12:46,793 Nobody would want to deal with the stress that comes 1316 01:12:46,795 --> 01:12:50,763 along with it. Doing it like this, ten shows, it's great. 1317 01:12:50,765 --> 01:12:52,865 It's fun. 1318 01:12:52,867 --> 01:12:56,872 The bullshit doesn't really have a negative impact on me at all. 1319 01:12:58,806 --> 01:13:01,840 I know that it's not my life anymore, that it's just 1320 01:13:01,842 --> 01:13:05,445 a one-time thing. And when we finish the tour on 1321 01:13:05,447 --> 01:13:08,717 the 23rd in Toronto, that's that, y'know, it's over. 1322 01:13:09,516 --> 01:13:11,183 We've got a line check, so you've got a minute... 1323 01:13:11,185 --> 01:13:14,756 - Is there a bathroom down here? - Yeah there's two there. 1324 01:13:24,666 --> 01:13:26,568 It's 9:57 1325 01:13:51,893 --> 01:13:53,595 Good evening Winnipeg. 1326 01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:07,940 We're running a little behind today, so we're just 1327 01:14:07,942 --> 01:14:10,942 going to line check B-Ball's drums and get the support bands 1328 01:14:10,944 --> 01:14:14,515 up. Doors are at six and it's twenty after five right now. 1329 01:14:15,216 --> 01:14:18,084 Had a little hang up at the border, probably could have left 1330 01:14:18,086 --> 01:14:21,553 a little earlier this morning, but y'know, these things happen. 1331 01:14:21,555 --> 01:14:23,822 This is the way of the road man. 1332 01:14:23,824 --> 01:14:26,925 Last night was the first kind of, taste of reality I guess. 1333 01:14:26,927 --> 01:14:29,794 The reality that not all the shows are going to go as 1334 01:14:29,796 --> 01:14:31,500 perfect as the other ones. 1335 01:14:33,635 --> 01:14:35,768 I'm glad last night was kinda how it was. 1336 01:14:35,770 --> 01:14:38,103 Sort of a good reality check for the band. 1337 01:14:38,105 --> 01:14:39,772 It was a little slower. 1338 01:14:39,774 --> 01:14:41,273 It was kind of a dip in the energy. 1339 01:14:41,275 --> 01:14:43,910 By any other standards, it was great. It was just 1340 01:14:43,912 --> 01:14:46,782 juxtaposed with some shows that were totally off the hook. 1341 01:14:48,949 --> 01:14:51,250 I think it's just healthy for everyone's mindset to have a 1342 01:14:51,252 --> 01:14:53,718 show like that every once in awhile. 1343 01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:56,789 Especially in this situation, because if the whole tour was so 1344 01:14:56,791 --> 01:14:58,991 sick all the way through, it might be one of those things 1345 01:14:58,993 --> 01:15:01,259 like "oh dude, we gotta get the band back together and do it 1346 01:15:01,261 --> 01:15:04,196 like this all the time" or something. But it wouldn't be 1347 01:15:04,198 --> 01:15:07,069 like this all the time unless it wasn't a special thing. 1348 01:15:07,769 --> 01:15:10,335 It's a cool note to end a chapter on, to do a bunch of 1349 01:15:10,337 --> 01:15:12,838 really cool shows that are really well attended and 1350 01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:14,842 people are going crazy. 1351 01:15:16,743 --> 01:15:19,711 But it's also gotta have a dose of reality in it because, 1352 01:15:19,713 --> 01:15:22,117 it's over after this, y'know? 1353 01:15:27,121 --> 01:15:30,255 I have mixed feelings about touring after doing it for so 1354 01:15:30,257 --> 01:15:33,326 long and after having the life that I have now with 1355 01:15:33,328 --> 01:15:35,964 home and family. I miss lots about it. 1356 01:15:36,930 --> 01:15:39,264 Never tiring of a place because you're in a new spot all 1357 01:15:39,266 --> 01:15:41,866 the time. You're out there doing it, you have one goal a day, 1358 01:15:41,868 --> 01:15:43,936 and that's get to the show, get everything set up and 1359 01:15:43,938 --> 01:15:45,705 do the show. And that's very singular. 1360 01:15:45,707 --> 01:15:48,107 And outside of that you just wander and do what you want, 1361 01:15:48,109 --> 01:15:50,946 and look for your own fun, and your own relaxation. 1362 01:15:51,746 --> 01:15:53,778 That's awesome because things are complicated when you're at 1363 01:15:53,780 --> 01:15:56,382 home, and it's not as focused, and you have to micro-manage all 1364 01:15:56,384 --> 01:15:59,250 these decisions and build something to work towards. 1365 01:15:59,252 --> 01:16:01,853 It's hard for me sometimes to manufacture those things when 1366 01:16:01,855 --> 01:16:05,790 I'm used to just focusing on the band and the show. 1367 01:16:05,792 --> 01:16:08,794 Going in there and getting it done, and as soon as you take 1368 01:16:08,796 --> 01:16:11,897 your amp of stage, that goal is done, it's checked off. 1369 01:16:11,899 --> 01:16:13,933 Let's go to the next city and do it again. 1370 01:16:13,935 --> 01:16:17,035 The flip side of that coin of course is that I have to be 1371 01:16:17,037 --> 01:16:18,204 away from my family. 1372 01:16:18,206 --> 01:16:21,240 I have to be away from my home like that I'm working on 1373 01:16:21,242 --> 01:16:24,346 building up, and it's harder and harder to do. 1374 01:16:25,246 --> 01:16:29,214 In a way this is a throwback to all the great shows 1375 01:16:29,216 --> 01:16:33,718 we did over the years, and even the smaller, fun shows we did 1376 01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:35,888 back when Jesse was in the band and we were doing 1377 01:16:35,890 --> 01:16:38,126 the "Malice" songs on that record. 1378 01:16:39,394 --> 01:16:42,762 But in a way I've done all these shows before. 1379 01:16:42,764 --> 01:16:45,998 If I were doing it just as something I was still doing, 1380 01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:47,202 I think it would make me sad. 1381 01:16:51,972 --> 01:16:53,341 ♪ It was the last time ♪ 1382 01:16:57,278 --> 01:16:59,881 ♪ We lost a fight without you ♪ 1383 01:17:03,251 --> 01:17:05,020 ♪ And finally now ♪ 1384 01:17:06,820 --> 01:17:09,254 10010 is the ZIP. 1385 01:17:09,256 --> 01:17:10,291 Got it. 1386 01:17:10,992 --> 01:17:12,327 Calculating route. 1387 01:17:14,895 --> 01:17:16,965 Two and a half hours, plus traffic. 1388 01:17:25,872 --> 01:17:29,208 Yeah their van broke down about 4:00 AM 1389 01:17:29,210 --> 01:17:30,912 last night in Cleveland. 1390 01:17:33,814 --> 01:17:35,317 Yeah, brutal. 1391 01:17:36,283 --> 01:17:38,119 Especially since they were only on four shows. 1392 01:17:39,220 --> 01:17:40,789 This is probably gonna be the best one. 1393 01:17:41,988 --> 01:17:45,124 So do you want to keep on schedule, 1394 01:17:45,126 --> 01:17:46,927 or do you want to move it up? 1395 01:17:48,462 --> 01:17:50,865 So our set time will probably be the same regardless. 1396 01:17:56,337 --> 01:17:58,340 It's been a lot of stuff man. 1397 01:17:59,474 --> 01:18:01,507 I mean, I'm kind of getting to the point where I'm thinking a 1398 01:18:01,509 --> 01:18:04,477 lot about home and just reacclimating to real life. 1399 01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:06,778 There's kind of a lot of stuff hanging over my head back home 1400 01:18:06,780 --> 01:18:08,015 that I have to deal with. 1401 01:18:09,317 --> 01:18:11,817 It's been convenient to have a tour to just escape from it and 1402 01:18:11,819 --> 01:18:13,986 not really think about it. 1403 01:18:13,988 --> 01:18:16,789 The whole thing has been this constant roller 1404 01:18:16,791 --> 01:18:19,394 coaster of happy sad, y'know. 1405 01:18:21,095 --> 01:18:23,294 I think this whole thing has been positive overall, but it's 1406 01:18:23,296 --> 01:18:27,334 mixed at times and it's been crazy delving into the past. 1407 01:18:29,403 --> 01:18:30,872 It all happened. 1408 01:18:32,172 --> 01:18:35,141 The story is heavy, and I think that the lyrics are heavy, and 1409 01:18:35,143 --> 01:18:39,445 why has this been so successful? It's because people experience 1410 01:18:39,447 --> 01:18:42,851 heavy things in life and they relate to those lyrics. 1411 01:18:43,251 --> 01:18:45,250 I don't think we could do this without, at times, touching on 1412 01:18:45,252 --> 01:18:48,888 heavy things and getting sad, getting mad, 1413 01:18:48,890 --> 01:18:50,156 whatever the case may be. 1414 01:18:50,158 --> 01:18:53,491 That record is sad, and it is mad, but it's about catharsis. 1415 01:18:53,493 --> 01:18:56,461 It's about getting past all that garbage, you know what I mean? 1416 01:18:56,463 --> 01:18:58,798 I think that's what those songs have done for kids, that's what 1417 01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:02,034 that record did for me. As dark as it is, it's not all 1418 01:19:02,036 --> 01:19:05,204 "oh I hate life, this sucks," you know what I mean? 1419 01:19:05,206 --> 01:19:07,275 It's like "this is bad, but we're working through it." 1420 01:19:08,442 --> 01:19:11,113 We gotta get an O.G. Misery Signals lineup picture. 1421 01:19:11,845 --> 01:19:13,781 Would I do something more? 1422 01:19:14,881 --> 01:19:16,848 At the beginning of this, I would have said no way. 1423 01:19:16,850 --> 01:19:19,184 But I cannot deny what has happened. 1424 01:19:19,186 --> 01:19:22,388 I cannot deny what I see in the kids' faces every night. 1425 01:19:22,390 --> 01:19:24,326 I cannot deny the things they say to me. 1426 01:19:25,292 --> 01:19:27,762 We created fantastic art together. 1427 01:19:29,029 --> 01:19:30,231 And... 1428 01:19:32,500 --> 01:19:34,034 I don't want it to end. 1429 01:19:35,101 --> 01:19:36,837 I don't want it to be over now. 1430 01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:41,040 I don't know what that means, I don't know what that looks like, 1431 01:19:41,042 --> 01:19:43,478 I don't know what- how we proceed. 1432 01:19:45,112 --> 01:19:49,850 But if Karl leaves, or if we can extend this in any way, 1433 01:19:51,319 --> 01:19:52,387 I'm willing. 1434 01:19:53,220 --> 01:19:56,222 It's been sort of a long time coming with Karl that he 1435 01:19:56,224 --> 01:20:00,092 hasn't contributed much to the band, and it's decreased 1436 01:20:00,094 --> 01:20:02,163 as time has gone on. 1437 01:20:03,631 --> 01:20:05,998 After coming back and playing these shows with Jesse, and 1438 01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:08,601 seeing the side of the coin where the singer's enthusiastic 1439 01:20:08,603 --> 01:20:12,137 and passionate, and has something on the line, like 1440 01:20:12,139 --> 01:20:15,607 Jesse is nervous before the show and he has an emotional 1441 01:20:15,609 --> 01:20:19,879 attachment to it. That's what I think a singer's main job is, 1442 01:20:19,881 --> 01:20:23,382 to be the gateway between the audience and the songs. 1443 01:20:23,384 --> 01:20:27,253 And now that we've gone back and done great shows and had both 1444 01:20:27,255 --> 01:20:30,926 sides of that, I don't want to go back. 1445 01:20:32,158 --> 01:20:34,360 I think it would be a lot more exciting instead of getting 1446 01:20:34,362 --> 01:20:38,397 "New Guy X" to sing for the band to bring Jesse back. 1447 01:20:38,399 --> 01:20:40,098 That's exciting, that's familiar, that's something 1448 01:20:40,100 --> 01:20:42,401 people have wanted for like ten years. 1449 01:20:42,403 --> 01:20:45,004 You know, bring back the guy that wears his heart on his 1450 01:20:45,006 --> 01:20:48,674 sleeve and probably cared about being in that band more than 1451 01:20:48,676 --> 01:20:50,942 anyone at the beginning. 1452 01:20:50,944 --> 01:20:53,211 I think what a lot of people would like to come out of 1453 01:20:53,213 --> 01:20:56,180 this is a reformation of that original lineup, and maybe more 1454 01:20:56,182 --> 01:20:58,951 music from those guys because 'Malice' was such a special 1455 01:20:58,953 --> 01:21:02,021 album but at this point it doesn't seem like it's possible 1456 01:21:02,023 --> 01:21:05,391 to happen right, like they've had three albums since 1457 01:21:05,393 --> 01:21:08,093 with Karl. Misery Signals is something else now. 1458 01:21:08,095 --> 01:21:10,932 Stu's not in the band, Greg's in the band. 1459 01:21:12,265 --> 01:21:15,034 People maybe just have to accept that it was a 1460 01:21:15,036 --> 01:21:17,602 really special thing for the time it came out and just sort 1461 01:21:17,604 --> 01:21:19,240 of cherish it for that. 1462 01:21:19,673 --> 01:21:22,641 I don't think that there's really much potential 1463 01:21:22,643 --> 01:21:26,277 for anything else, as far as Jesse's involvement beyond this 1464 01:21:26,279 --> 01:21:27,478 point with us. 1465 01:21:27,480 --> 01:21:30,950 I know that it's kind of an unfair gauge to work off of, 1466 01:21:30,952 --> 01:21:34,452 because it is a special event every night. 1467 01:21:34,454 --> 01:21:37,488 He hasn't had the last six or seven years of slugging 1468 01:21:37,490 --> 01:21:40,291 it out. Not just coming in and killing it at 1469 01:21:40,293 --> 01:21:42,995 these shows that have been just like home runs. 1470 01:21:42,997 --> 01:21:45,731 He has Misery Signals shows seven years ago, and then he has 1471 01:21:45,733 --> 01:21:49,436 this reunion tour which has been like a smash success. 1472 01:21:50,104 --> 01:21:53,472 Me, Brandon, and Kyle, and to an extent Stu have had years 1473 01:21:53,474 --> 01:21:56,607 and years of these ups and downs and Winnipeg every night 1474 01:21:56,609 --> 01:21:57,875 for a whole tour. 1475 01:21:57,877 --> 01:22:00,345 It kind of gives you a false sense of accomplishment 1476 01:22:00,347 --> 01:22:02,513 in a way. Beyond this I don't think that they would 1477 01:22:02,515 --> 01:22:04,415 continue to be like this. 1478 01:22:04,417 --> 01:22:07,018 I think that you know you can ride the hype for a little 1479 01:22:07,020 --> 01:22:10,388 while, but once it's said and done and kids kind of see what 1480 01:22:10,390 --> 01:22:13,692 they've been waiting to see for years, it'll just go back to a 1481 01:22:13,694 --> 01:22:17,565 different version of what we have now; no better, no worse. 1482 01:22:20,001 --> 01:22:22,567 Stu's offered to me that maybe including him on the 1483 01:22:22,569 --> 01:22:25,005 writing of something else would be sweet. 1484 01:22:25,773 --> 01:22:28,206 I don't know if it'll happen or not. I don't know 1485 01:22:28,208 --> 01:22:31,576 if he he wholeheartedly means what he's offering. 1486 01:22:31,578 --> 01:22:34,345 If it came to pass, I don't know how into it he'd be and if he 1487 01:22:34,347 --> 01:22:36,615 would just get back to the place he was at when he quit the band 1488 01:22:36,617 --> 01:22:39,084 initially, and just bail. Because that would hurt a lot, 1489 01:22:39,086 --> 01:22:42,053 and I don't know if I'm willing to risk that. 1490 01:22:42,055 --> 01:22:44,490 But also to me the band's in a weird spot where it might just 1491 01:22:44,492 --> 01:22:47,625 be done too, so like what's to risk really, you know? 1492 01:23:52,792 --> 01:23:54,362 ♪ How could I ♪ 1493 01:23:56,663 --> 01:23:58,432 ♪ justify this ♪ 1494 01:24:01,167 --> 01:24:03,704 ♪ I can make anything alright ♪ 1495 01:24:05,271 --> 01:24:06,608 ♪ But what do you know ♪ 1496 01:24:09,275 --> 01:24:11,278 ♪ about sacrifice ♪ 1497 01:24:14,381 --> 01:24:16,418 ♪ You are no lamb ♪ 1498 01:24:19,252 --> 01:24:20,788 ♪ Any man a creep ♪ 1499 01:24:22,689 --> 01:24:25,426 ♪ Any man deserving ♪ 1500 01:24:27,828 --> 01:24:30,165 ♪ Any man A victim, ♪ 1501 01:24:32,500 --> 01:24:34,135 ♪ a target ♪ 1502 01:25:00,161 --> 01:25:02,163 Thank you New York City, 1503 01:25:06,399 --> 01:25:08,802 it is absolutely wonderful to be back. 1504 01:25:17,444 --> 01:25:19,777 I don't know all the levels that it's happening on, 1505 01:25:19,779 --> 01:25:22,313 but something-something really good is happening here. 1506 01:25:22,315 --> 01:25:25,450 I was on stage in New York last night and it was so good, 1507 01:25:25,452 --> 01:25:28,187 the show was so great. And they had to keep the lights on 1508 01:25:28,189 --> 01:25:31,356 for the audience just as safety measure for that club, 1509 01:25:31,358 --> 01:25:34,625 and I could see everyone in the crowd. 1510 01:25:34,627 --> 01:25:36,827 There were so many people singing along and going crazy 1511 01:25:36,829 --> 01:25:38,095 and I was just grinning. 1512 01:25:38,097 --> 01:25:42,500 I don't know if it's because I feel like it's run it's course 1513 01:25:42,502 --> 01:25:45,204 in a way and it's almost over, this is one of the last great 1514 01:25:45,206 --> 01:25:50,209 awesome moments, but I could feel like the totality 1515 01:25:50,211 --> 01:25:51,880 of the band in a way. 1516 01:25:57,417 --> 01:25:59,384 It feels really good to have done this tour. 1517 01:25:59,386 --> 01:26:02,420 I'm really happy with how it went, and not just on a like 1518 01:26:02,422 --> 01:26:05,257 level of the shows were good and people came out 1519 01:26:05,259 --> 01:26:07,925 and went crazy, which they did, and that made it a lot of fun. 1520 01:26:07,927 --> 01:26:11,862 But as far as getting to spend time with these dudes and see 1521 01:26:11,864 --> 01:26:14,232 all the old friends. 1522 01:26:14,234 --> 01:26:17,236 I'm not really sure I'm consciously aware of everything 1523 01:26:17,238 --> 01:26:20,973 that has happened but there's something therapeutic about 1524 01:26:20,975 --> 01:26:22,544 having done this whole thing. 1525 01:26:24,877 --> 01:26:26,777 I think we are on that path to redemption. 1526 01:26:26,779 --> 01:26:28,045 It's been a healing process. 1527 01:26:28,047 --> 01:26:31,482 But it's not going to all of a sudden "oh we did ten shows or 1528 01:26:31,484 --> 01:26:34,354 nine shows, everything is better guys, everything is good." 1529 01:26:35,355 --> 01:26:37,425 We're brothers though right? 1530 01:26:39,693 --> 01:26:41,429 I can still be pissed about what they did. 1531 01:26:43,363 --> 01:26:47,201 But I don't judge the men now by what the boys did in the past. 1532 01:26:48,935 --> 01:26:51,535 I know there's been some gripes, and despite our 1533 01:26:51,537 --> 01:26:55,273 differences, I really have a lot of respect for Jesse. 1534 01:26:55,275 --> 01:26:58,843 I think he's a really good dude, and I definitely can recognize 1535 01:26:58,845 --> 01:27:02,347 from where I'm standing now what conflicts were there and what 1536 01:27:02,349 --> 01:27:05,817 differences we both have as our personalities. 1537 01:27:05,819 --> 01:27:08,419 The things that sort of caused problems with the band 1538 01:27:08,421 --> 01:27:10,421 are also the things that are good about Jesse. 1539 01:27:10,423 --> 01:27:15,660 He's a really principled guy, and he really sticks to his guns 1540 01:27:15,662 --> 01:27:19,031 on a lot of things and that's cool because 1541 01:27:19,033 --> 01:27:22,804 the things that he values are usually on point. 1542 01:27:23,936 --> 01:27:27,571 He really values friendship, and he's all about doing the 1543 01:27:27,573 --> 01:27:31,710 right thing, and he sticks to that once he's decided 1544 01:27:31,712 --> 01:27:33,715 what the right thing is. 1545 01:27:35,649 --> 01:27:38,849 I wish I was more like that, and I admire him for that. 1546 01:27:38,851 --> 01:27:40,751 At the same time, that's some of the stuff that was frustrating 1547 01:27:40,753 --> 01:27:42,920 for us when we were doing the band before, because he would 1548 01:27:42,922 --> 01:27:45,790 stick to his guns so much. I would too to an extent, 1549 01:27:45,792 --> 01:27:48,695 but I can appreciate it a lot more now. 1550 01:27:52,065 --> 01:27:55,733 It would be amazing if after Toronto we could go out 1551 01:27:55,735 --> 01:27:59,603 back behind the Opera House and air our grievances and talk and 1552 01:27:59,605 --> 01:28:03,010 everyone ends with a big hug and everything is okay. 1553 01:28:04,110 --> 01:28:06,111 I don't know if that's how it'll be. 1554 01:28:06,113 --> 01:28:11,016 But we've taken some really large steps to becoming friends 1555 01:28:11,018 --> 01:28:14,555 again, to healing what happened. 1556 01:28:14,887 --> 01:28:16,086 I love you, brother. 1557 01:28:16,088 --> 01:28:19,523 I do wish that I was more mature back then and we 1558 01:28:19,525 --> 01:28:21,625 could have worked those things out in a better way. 1559 01:28:21,627 --> 01:28:26,764 But I also believe that our time as that group of guys 1560 01:28:26,766 --> 01:28:30,505 had to end. And I feel good about where it's at now. 1561 01:28:32,939 --> 01:28:35,842 - What's up? - Just waiting on Jesse. 1562 01:28:37,644 --> 01:28:38,843 One last time. 1563 01:28:38,845 --> 01:28:42,446 Yesterday we got in a cab to go get some food in New York 1564 01:28:42,448 --> 01:28:46,951 and I had a good little heart-to-heart moment with Jesse 1565 01:28:46,953 --> 01:28:51,656 where he was like "I'm really really glad we did this." 1566 01:28:51,658 --> 01:28:55,427 And he even sort of said something along the lines of 1567 01:28:55,429 --> 01:28:58,863 "if we were considering doing more shows like this he would 1568 01:28:58,865 --> 01:29:01,933 be into it, and even if Karl were leaving the band for 1569 01:29:01,935 --> 01:29:04,669 whatever reason he would consider coming back. 1570 01:29:04,671 --> 01:29:08,773 That puts a lot of things to rest for me about how he feels 1571 01:29:08,775 --> 01:29:12,410 about the band and what we did together. 1572 01:29:12,412 --> 01:29:16,180 And interpersonally between us, if he's willing to do that 1573 01:29:16,182 --> 01:29:22,756 that's basically forgiveness, it's reconciliation. 1574 01:29:25,492 --> 01:29:28,096 Well that's it, we have one song left. 1575 01:29:40,440 --> 01:29:43,141 This might be the last time that us five ever 1576 01:29:43,143 --> 01:29:44,746 play music together again. 1577 01:29:52,085 --> 01:29:53,855 Ryan Morgan, I love you. 1578 01:29:54,988 --> 01:29:56,754 Branden Morgan I love you. 1579 01:29:56,756 --> 01:29:58,690 Kyle Johnson I love you. 1580 01:29:58,692 --> 01:30:00,595 Stuart Ross I love you. 1581 01:30:09,069 --> 01:30:10,438 This whole thing... 1582 01:30:15,208 --> 01:30:17,612 This whole thing meant the world to me. 1583 01:30:18,912 --> 01:30:22,650 For eight years I dreamt about playing these shows. 1584 01:30:25,085 --> 01:30:27,755 I sure hope this isn't the last time that we do this. 1585 01:30:30,623 --> 01:30:32,590 Thank you for sharing this night with us you guys, 1586 01:30:32,592 --> 01:30:33,961 thank you so much. 1587 01:30:46,509 --> 01:30:51,509 Subtitles by explosiveskull 1588 01:30:57,184 --> 01:30:59,686 ♪ I've seen it in your eyes ♪ 1589 01:31:03,122 --> 01:31:06,159 ♪ Looks like your sneaking and all your lies ♪ 1590 01:31:07,961 --> 01:31:11,865 ♪ They did catch up to you this time ♪ 1591 01:31:13,199 --> 01:31:17,671 ♪ I swear I heard you say ♪ 1592 01:31:19,171 --> 01:31:24,644 ♪ Blood is forever Love is forever ♪ 1593 01:31:33,987 --> 01:31:37,524 ♪ I can fool myself all that I want ♪ 1594 01:31:43,963 --> 01:31:47,801 ♪ But I saw the room, I heard your voice, ♪ 1595 01:31:49,168 --> 01:31:52,806 ♪ I saw your eyes ♪ 1596 01:31:53,340 --> 01:32:01,782 ♪ The truth will always get the best of you inside or out ♪ 1597 01:32:03,015 --> 01:32:08,687 ♪ It took me two years to find that I wasted ♪ 1598 01:32:08,689 --> 01:32:14,695 ♪ five years of my life ♪ 1599 01:32:16,329 --> 01:32:23,938 ♪ Felt the truth within you and I saw red ♪ 1600 01:32:39,786 --> 01:32:45,357 ♪ I guess we are, we are the long goodbye ♪ 1601 01:32:45,359 --> 01:32:49,059 What wasted time 1602 01:32:50,130 --> 01:32:59,172 ♪ I always hoped somehow it never happened to us ♪ 1603 01:33:01,408 --> 01:33:06,614 ♪ But it is something that did ♪ 1604 01:33:07,247 --> 01:33:09,951 ♪ That I can't forget ♪ 1605 01:33:11,318 --> 01:33:13,253 ♪ And after all of our times ♪ 1606 01:33:16,756 --> 01:33:19,759 ♪ You fucking did what you did ♪ 138043

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