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NARRATOR: Tonight on
Beyond Skinwalker Ranch.
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We don't know if they were
from interstellar space--
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Or we don't know if they're
from a different dimension.
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We're basically saying here
that these people were visited
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or they experienced contact.
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That's correct.
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MAN 1: We're down to 19.
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MAN 2: When they
started up again?
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Yep.
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18.
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What is happening, man?
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16.
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Dude.
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MAN 3: What in the--
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[laughs]
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That's my favorite
Travis reaction so far.
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NARRATOR: For years,
scientists have
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been working to reveal the
secrets of Skinwalker Ranch.
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But is it possible
that the clues
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to unlock the
mystery are located
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beyond the borders of this
hub of high strangeness?
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Wow.
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NARRATOR: Now, an ex-CIA
agent and a veteran journalist
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have been recruited
by the Skinwalker team
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to go on a high stakes
mission across America.
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Look at all this
activity that's happening.
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ANDY: That's unbelievable.
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PAUL: That is right
over our heads.
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That's it, that's
it right there!
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NARRATOR: The goal--
uncover evidence that
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may finally expose the truth.
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MAN 4: How is this happening?
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MAN 5: Now it's going
to get interesting.
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ANDY: Look, it's moving!
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Look at that!
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PAUL: This is just
the beginning.
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Well, Paul and Andy,
it's great to have
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you back at the table.
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Now, I understand you
guys have something
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of a very different
nature lined up this time,
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something very special.
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I think this is
an interesting one.
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This is sort of a different
jumping off point for us
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than usual.
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This is not an area where
there's necessarily been
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a recent strange phenomenon.
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It's more sort of a
long history of it.
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ERIK: OK.
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PAUL: Right, we're interested
in visiting this place called
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Rock Art Ranch in Arizona.
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TRAVIS: I'm very familiar
with Rock Art Ranch.
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So then you know it has
really one of the largest
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sort of privately held
petroglyph sites in the country
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and maybe in the world.
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NARRATOR: Rock Art Ranch is a
private cattle ranch in Northern
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Arizona, where it's
home to thousands
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of ancient Native
American petroglyphs.
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The petroglyphs on the ranch
are carvings on the rock
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surface made by Indigenous
people who lived in the area.
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For these Native Americans,
petroglyphs were a sacred form
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of documentation
used to communicate
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details of their lives
for over 13,000 years.
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For the past five years,
the team at Skinwalker
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has been investigating the
petroglyphs on their ranch.
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What I'm looking
at is these curves.
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It's a metaphor for
a serpent or a snake.
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Snakes represents
two different worlds.
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So it's a guardian
to the portals.
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NARRATOR: Veteran
Navajo Ranger Jon
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Dover also analyzed
the petroglyphs
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surrounding Skinwalker Ranch.
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The spiral seems
to be universal.
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This spiral could refer
to some kind of a portal.
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NARRATOR: This spiral
symbol in the petroglyphs
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is also seen in an
ancient stone circle
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on top of the Skinwalker mesa.
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We have basically a
spiral right here that's
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been put into this ground here.
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NARRATOR: Now, Andy and Paul
plan to join up with Jon Dover
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to investigate Rock Art Ranch,
one of the largest petroglyph
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sites in the country,
to dive much deeper
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into the phenomena surrounding
these ancient carvings.
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So Jon Dover invited
us out to the ranch
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to conduct a fulsome
investigation there and compare
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the petroglyphs that exist
there with the petroglyphs
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that you've had here
on Skinwalker Ranch
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and see if we can't find some
correlation with the phenomenon.
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Think about whatever
you're looking
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at there, what it could be
that it's trying to tell you.
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It's probably not just a record.
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It's probably a
spot of interest.
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You know, that reminds
me of a Ute shaman
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told us that the
Indigenous people
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around here used the cave
systems as a portal system.
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These places like this may
be a doorway or a window
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to somewhere else.
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Now the possibility of
something like a portal,
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that really gets my attention.
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I can't wait to see
what you guys bring back.
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All right.
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This is definitely going
to be worth your while.
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PAUL: All right, we're excited.
ERIK: All right, guys.
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TRAVIS: See you soon, gents.
Good luck.
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PAUL: I'm so excited to be
back in Northern Arizona,
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on the edges of Navajo Nation.
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Look at just how vast it is.
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It feels like we're in
the middle of nowhere.
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Well, I mean, this speaks
to exactly how preserved
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this location must be.
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I mean, there's no sign
of civilization anywhere
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near where we're going.
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Yeah.
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ANDY: Ancient people
habituated here.
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I mean, they came here,
they built a life here,
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they left a history here.
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And that's what we're
here to explore.
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What we know about
this place is that it
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has thousands of petroglyphs.
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And as many as have
been discovered,
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there are maybe many more.
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ANDY: Yeah.
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Compare that with Skinwalker,
which has a few petroglyphs.
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This place is potentially a
wealth of information and energy
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and stories and history that
really we've never experienced.
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The petroglyphs
at Skinwalker Ranch
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seem to suggest
that there might be
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some kind of interdimensional
portal around that area.
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So the question
for us is really,
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can we identify any of the
same anomalous activity
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here around the petroglyphs
slides at this location?
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PAUL: This is exciting.
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ANDY: There's Jon.
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PAUL: Mr. Jon.
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ANDY: Always great to see him.
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How's it going?
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Good to see you again, man.
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- Yeah, really good to see you.
- Hey, Jon.
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How are you, sir?
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Doing great.
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We've got some
really interesting
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things to show you today.
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You've been able to actually
research the petroglyphs
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at Skinwalker Ranch.
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What is it about
these petroglyphs here
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that you think are noteworthy?
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Well, we're seeing
the same symbols,
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but on a much larger scale.
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Skinwalker Ranch just
has a few petroglyphs.
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This place is just
going to blow your mind.
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Wow.
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Jon, do you know, has there ever
been any kind of investigation
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out here?
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I mean, aside from people
just looking at them.
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And you know, there's been
a lot of sort of research
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about petroglyphs and
what they might mean.
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But actual investigation and
experiments performed out here.
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There have been none.
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So you're going to be the first
guys to put instruments on this.
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That's awesome.
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This is a clean slate.
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You know, it's uncharted
territory for us
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to be the first to do this.
- Absolutely.
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I'm excited to get out there.
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Yeah.
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Let's do it.
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NARRATOR: With Navajo Ranger
Jon Dover leading the way,
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the team heads out about three
miles west to the canyons,
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where over 3,000 well-preserved
petroglyphs have been found.
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Have the petroglyphs
been dated?
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What do we know about them?
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We know that the people were
here about 500 AD to about 1070,
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and then they disappeared.
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You really do feel
like you're entering
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some kind of sacred space.
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This place is
just astonishing.
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Wow.
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What a spot.
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ANDY: Look at all those.
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Oh my god.
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JON: And these are just--
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just a few.
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Are those carved in?
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Those are carved in.
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That's incredible.
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There's animals.
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There's humans.
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There's sort of humanoids.
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Some of the figures
that you see up
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here, if you count the fingers,
some of them have three fingers.
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Some of them have five.
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And the accuracy when
these things are made
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is important to realize
that they were recording
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things that they actually saw.
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And if they saw
three-fingered beings,
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that's what they recorded.
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Is there an interpretation
of what these three-fingered
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people or creatures are?
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They represent star people.
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Star people?
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So we're basically saying here
that these people were visited
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or they experienced contact--
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JON: That's correct.
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--with extraterrestrials.
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That's really quite humbling.
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Yeah this is not rock art.
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They actually had a
purpose for putting
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this on the face of this rock
and in the location that it is.
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Now, I'd like to point out that
the orb under that guy's arm
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might not be an orb.
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If you look at it closely,
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In Native culture,
spirals always
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are an indication of migration.
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However, we've reinterpreted
it to symbolize a portal.
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- Wow.
- Right.
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A portal.
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Right.
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We believe that the ancients
had the ability to manipulate
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these dimensional gates.
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They postulated that
energy, frequency, vibration
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were magical.
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If you knew how to use
them, you could do anything.
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We knew that they
had the ability
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to utilize these things, these
dimensional gates and portals.
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I mean, these are things that
we can potentially measure.
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We should take
some measurements.
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NARRATOR: In order to test
for the presence of any
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naturally occurring energy,
frequency, or vibration
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in the canyon,
Andy and Paul will
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take readings with their
handheld instruments.
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I'm cool.
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I'm pulling out
our trifield meter
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right now to look
at magnetic energy.
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If we're taking electromagnetic
readings anywhere else
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in the United states, we
expect to see somewhere
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between 0.2 and 0.4 milligauss.
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Sounds pretty quiet so far.
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Very quiet.
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Like, impossibly quiet.
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Watch.
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PAUL: Wow.
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We've never seen that.
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So this is saying,
Jon, that there
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is no measurable
electromagnetic field here.
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0.0 milligauss.
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Which is unusual in itself.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah, this is not normal.
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If you're going
to have a portal,
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there must be intense
energy at that site.
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Energy and frequency
and vibration.
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NARRATOR: Andy and Paul are
with Navajo ranger Jon Dover,
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studying the petroglyph
covered walls within the canyon
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at Rock Art Ranch.
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Jon suggests that energy,
frequency, and vibration are
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needed for a portal to open.
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So they're using a
spectrum analyzer
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to check for the presence
of radio frequencies.
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Let's take a look
at the radio spectrum.
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OK, great.
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Oh, look at that, Andy.
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What'd you just find?
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1.6.
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1.609?
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PAUL: Yep, and it's
been steady there.
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1.6 gigahertz is
a frequency that's
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reserved for space to Earth and
Earth to space communication.
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And here we are seeing it
next to petroglyphs that
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are potentially
showing a depiction
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of interdimensional phenomenon.
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When you're collecting
this data on its own,
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it looks kind of
disparate and you
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don't know how it all connects.
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Until Jon tells us that
there's three elements
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tied to some sort of
interdimensional portal activity
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within Native American lore.
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There's frequency,
energy, and vibration.
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And what we're seeing
here with 1.6 gigahertz
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is a clear, strong frequency.
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PAUL: I'm really curious to see
what else this little canyon has
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in store for us.
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JON: Oh, there's lots more.
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Oh, wow.
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Look at that.
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ANDY: Look at those.
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There are so many images
here that are clearly humans.
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But what are those?
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Those huge creatures.
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Huge creatures with-- it
looks like spikes or plates
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on their back.
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Right.
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Honestly, I was thinking
they look like dinosaurs.
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That's the same thing
that went through my mind.
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And then associated right
there with that spiral shape.
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Many Native tribes have
creation stories where
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they came from somewhere else.
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In the case of the
Navajo, they came
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through several different
worlds that they describe.
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A world of insects, a world of
giants, a water world, you know.
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When they talk about
these, they say
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that there was something that
appeared in the sky, a hole
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in the sky.
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And they climbed through that.
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You know, they're
naturally occurring portals
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that are just opening
and closing whenever
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they get enough energy.
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What's to prevent other
things from coming through?
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ANDY: So interesting thing.
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I feel like we should see what
we can measure at this location.
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PAUL: Sure, let's do it.
ANDY: Yeah.
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I want to try the FLIR.
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Just get a thermal
read on this space.
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Let's do it.
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NARRATOR: The FLIR T1030 is
an exceptionally sensitive
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high definition imaging
camera that measures
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the heat signatures of objects.
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The hotter the object,
the whiter it will appear.
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What I'm thinking,
Andy, is I'm
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curious to see if
there's any difference
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between the glyphs themselves
and the rest of the face.
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Can you-- can you aim right
into that crevice right there?
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Do you see the dark spot?
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PAUL: OK.
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ANDY: You see what I'm seeing?
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PAUL: The heat that's sort
of trapped in that corner?
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ANDY: Why would there be--
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PAUL: Seems like it
should be cold in there.
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ANDY: Yeah.
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Here, let me come
around where you are.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, look at that.
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This is really interesting.
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It's shaded from the top.
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Yep.
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Much warmer in there.
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ANDY: All the way up and down.
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PAUL: Yeah.
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The carvings here right
next to this heat signature
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are the spirals that
signify some kind of portal.
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I mean, it's 64,
65 degrees there.
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And the exposed face
over here is much cooler.
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The most shaded is the hottest.
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This face has been
in the shade all day.
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ANDY: Yeah.
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It wouldn't surprise
me if this was
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an entry point of some kind.
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It could be an entry point,
if we knew how to open it.
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We've got the
portal correlating
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very closely with some
kind of energy anomaly.
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You've got thermal energy.
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There's absolutely
thermal energy back there.
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And when you layer
that in with the fact
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that we're seeing a very strong
signal here at 1.6 gigahertz,
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we have a giant
energy anomaly here.
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Is it unique or are
there others like it?
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We know there are other sites.
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I think that's the question
we've got to ask going forward.
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Yeah.
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Let's go collect some
more data and find out.
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Thanks, Jon.
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NARRATOR: After discovering
strange energy and frequency
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readings in the canyon, the
next stop in their investigation
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is a partially excavated
sacred dwelling site
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a couple miles away, where
the ancient Native American
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tribes lived.
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What we're going
to look at here
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is a ruined site with
some rune blocks in it
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that has been professionally
excavated by archaeologists.
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They would have lived up here,
but the canyon would have been
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a source of water
and it would have
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been where they had different
ceremonies and things going on.
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I think the big
question here is,
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you know, these two
sites are obviously
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connected by the people and
the time that they spent here.
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We're curious about how they're
connected energetically.
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Well, there's
definitely energy here.
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Traditionally, in
Navajo culture,
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you do not go
around these places.
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Because the spirits
of the dead are here.
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Wow.
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Look at this.
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Wow.
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Just instant time travel.
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This is a window back in time.
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JON: Each room would
have held a family.
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This area, I can feel the
energy all through my body.
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PAUL: Let's take some
measurements here.
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NARRATOR: Andy and Paul use the
radio spectrum analyzer to test
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for the 1.6 gigahertz
frequency that
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was present at the petroglyphs.
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Look at that.
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1.609487.
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That's the same signal that
we were seeing in the canyon.
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Yep.
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What we've been able
to do is confirm for sure
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that in this location, we
have two of the three elements
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that you've been talking about.
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We have energy.
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We have thermal
energy in the canyon.
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We have frequency.
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PAUL: Right.
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This really clear 1.6
gigahertz frequency.
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So all that's
missing is vibration.
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If we can get the three
elements together,
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we have, I mean, the opportunity
to potentially unlock
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whatever the ancients saw here.
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Yeah.
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The third point of this
triangle, this triad
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of energies.
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I think we need to bring
in a traditional singing
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group with a drum.
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NARRATOR: In 2023, a Native
American drumming group
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performed at
Skinwalker Ranch, which
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resulted in dramatic
temperature changes,
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focused on the stone circle.
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TRAVIS: The stone circle is
lit up like a Christmas tree.
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NARRATOR: Which is thought
to be a sacred place
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for the ancient people
and potentially a portal.
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If this is the location for
a portal, all we need to do
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is find a way to tap into it.
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The fact that we have this
thermal energy, the radio
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frequency, now the
question is, can we somehow
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tap into this
vibrational question
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here that Jon has
been telling us about?
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We're going to do
a drum ceremony.
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Who knows what could happen?
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We could trigger our
own thermal anomaly.
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We could trigger our own orb.
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Anything can happen out here.
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This place is wide open for us.
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Art, it is so good
to have you back, man.
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I know that we are in
good hands with you
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and Jon on the
case with us again.
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Thank you.
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Thank you for having us.
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We agreed to this so that we can
help propel the scientific value
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as well as the
spiritual value that may
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arise out of this experience.
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NARRATOR: For the
first experiment,
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Jon Dover has called upon Navajo
musician Alex Adeki and medicine
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man Art Hardy, who
helped guide the team
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last year at Navajo Nation.
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Can you hear this, Andy?
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Come here.
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They're here.
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I don't know how to
process through the idea
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that they are here.
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I don't--
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Shh.
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(WHISPERS) Don't
process, just listen.
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NARRATOR: The team will perform
a traditional drum ceremony just
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outside a sacred dwelling
site at Rock Art Ranch.
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Jon believes that a combination
of energy, frequency, and
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vibration can open up a portal.
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And the team has found energy
and frequency at the site.
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So the plan is to add sound
vibration into the environment
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to test this theory.
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So first and foremost,
the vibrational frequencies
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is actually a key part
of what spirituality
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is within the Native
American community.
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There is phenomenon that
happens within the ceremonies.
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We do see things.
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We do hear things.
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And I'm pretty sure a lot of
the Native American community
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can attest to that.
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I couldn't think
of a better way
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to let you guys
start setting up.
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Great.
Sounds good, Andy.
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Thank you, Art.
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Thank you, guys.
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NARRATOR: Given the thermal
anomalies that resulted
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from the blazing bear drum
ceremony performed at Skinwalker
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Ranch in 2023,
Andy and Paul have
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set up a FLIR thermal camera
focused above the ceremony.
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They've also set up two AI
powered UFODAPs to capture
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any activity above them.
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This system of two cameras
puts non-stop eyes on the sky
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and can track objects to
identify if it's captured
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a plane, satellite, or star.
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Or if it's locked on to an
unknown aerial phenomenon.
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[rattling]
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I just got the chills.
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[non-english singing]
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[beeps]
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Whoa.
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That was interesting.
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What was-- that was fast.
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Let me see if I can pull
up that file real quick.
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Right there.
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You see it?
- Do it again.
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Yep.
Flying across the screen.
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You can see the wings flapping.
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I think that's a bat.
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Yeah.
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OK.
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Well, false positives.
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Yep.
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It's working.
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Check this out, man.
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The air temperature has
been strange above them.
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We were up above 33, 34.
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We swung down to 28, 27.
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Our target is 10 feet
above their heads.
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It's not the fire.
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Oh, look at this, Paul.
Look at this.
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- Whoa, whoa.
- Look at that.
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PAUL: Dropped out of nowhere.
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ANDY: Yeah.
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It went down as
low as 24 degrees.
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Something is happening.
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23.
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The music just stopped.
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Look at this.
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Look at this.
516
00:21:52,250 --> 00:21:54,000
All they did was stop singing.
517
00:21:54,042 --> 00:21:56,042
In the same area above.
518
00:21:56,125 --> 00:21:57,375
That is so weird.
519
00:21:57,458 --> 00:21:59,083
The music just ended.
520
00:21:59,167 --> 00:22:01,000
PAUL: I was going to say, it
kind of went all over the place
521
00:22:01,042 --> 00:22:02,625
when the music ended.
522
00:22:02,708 --> 00:22:05,333
ANDY: We've gone up five
degrees since the music stopped.
523
00:22:05,417 --> 00:22:06,500
On a cold night.
524
00:22:06,583 --> 00:22:08,708
PAUL: Just went up to 28.
525
00:22:08,708 --> 00:22:11,917
[rattling]
526
00:22:13,958 --> 00:22:16,375
[non-english singing]
527
00:22:21,375 --> 00:22:23,958
Andy, Andy, we're down to 19.
528
00:22:24,042 --> 00:22:25,000
When they started up again?
529
00:22:25,083 --> 00:22:25,917
Yep.
530
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,750
18.
531
00:22:27,875 --> 00:22:29,500
17.
532
00:22:29,500 --> 00:22:30,792
What is happening, man?
533
00:22:30,875 --> 00:22:31,583
16.
534
00:22:33,708 --> 00:22:35,625
15.
535
00:22:35,708 --> 00:22:36,458
Dude.
536
00:22:41,542 --> 00:22:43,667
ANDY: We just dropped
another seven degrees.
537
00:22:43,750 --> 00:22:44,583
Wow.
538
00:22:44,708 --> 00:22:46,292
It went down seven degrees in--
539
00:22:46,375 --> 00:22:47,875
like that.
540
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,000
And you can hear the
difference in the voice, too.
541
00:22:52,875 --> 00:22:54,333
Did they change singers?
542
00:22:54,458 --> 00:22:56,125
They changed singers.
543
00:22:56,208 --> 00:22:57,083
That's Art.
544
00:22:57,167 --> 00:22:58,667
PAUL: Is that Art now?
545
00:22:58,708 --> 00:22:59,333
Wow.
546
00:22:59,417 --> 00:23:02,708
Look, it's at 13.
547
00:23:02,708 --> 00:23:05,833
We're actually seeing that
the singer, the difference
548
00:23:05,917 --> 00:23:08,250
in their intensity and the
difference in their voice itself
549
00:23:08,333 --> 00:23:09,542
is changing things.
550
00:23:09,708 --> 00:23:11,750
It's like we hit a
new threshold somehow.
551
00:23:11,833 --> 00:23:13,833
Wow.
552
00:23:13,875 --> 00:23:15,125
How interesting, man.
553
00:23:18,042 --> 00:23:20,000
Look at that.
554
00:23:20,042 --> 00:23:21,083
It's going back.
555
00:23:21,167 --> 00:23:24,000
It just-- soon as he stopped.
556
00:23:24,042 --> 00:23:29,625
We've gone up in temperature
since the music stopped.
557
00:23:29,708 --> 00:23:31,000
That was a powerful hit.
558
00:23:31,083 --> 00:23:34,042
Did you see that just there?
559
00:23:34,167 --> 00:23:35,542
That's fast.
560
00:23:35,625 --> 00:23:36,625
What is that, though?
561
00:23:39,542 --> 00:23:40,375
You see that?
562
00:23:40,458 --> 00:23:42,208
PAUL: It's got a trail.
563
00:23:42,333 --> 00:23:45,000
Look right there.
564
00:23:45,042 --> 00:23:48,083
Did those look like two distinct
balls of light in a row?
565
00:23:48,167 --> 00:23:50,667
I'm going to pull up a clean
file with no data on it.
566
00:23:50,750 --> 00:23:51,542
OK.
567
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,667
I don't know what that is.
568
00:23:56,750 --> 00:23:58,458
PAUL: It also-- did
you see the movement?
569
00:23:58,583 --> 00:24:00,500
ANDY: I was going to say
there's movement there.
570
00:24:00,583 --> 00:24:03,583
That kind of movement
and speed change.
571
00:24:03,667 --> 00:24:06,333
PAUL: Yeah, I don't I
don't know what that is.
572
00:24:06,417 --> 00:24:08,708
It changes
velocity completely.
573
00:24:08,708 --> 00:24:10,000
Right there, too.
PAUL: Yep.
574
00:24:10,042 --> 00:24:11,625
ANDY: I didn't even
see that little curve.
575
00:24:11,708 --> 00:24:13,417
I saw the one farther
down, but it--
576
00:24:13,500 --> 00:24:14,250
PAUL: You see that?
577
00:24:14,375 --> 00:24:15,333
Yeah.
578
00:24:15,417 --> 00:24:16,833
It changes direction twice.
579
00:24:16,958 --> 00:24:18,042
That's wild.
580
00:24:18,125 --> 00:24:19,792
Yeah.
581
00:24:19,875 --> 00:24:23,000
We just saw some kind of bird
or flapping insect before.
582
00:24:23,042 --> 00:24:24,083
It's neither of those.
583
00:24:24,167 --> 00:24:25,417
Correct.
584
00:24:25,500 --> 00:24:26,500
And it's not moving
in a straight line.
585
00:24:26,583 --> 00:24:27,833
I mean, it's a UAP.
586
00:24:27,833 --> 00:24:28,375
Yeah.
587
00:24:28,500 --> 00:24:30,208
It's a UAP.
588
00:24:30,208 --> 00:24:32,417
And look where we are and
think about what we just did.
589
00:24:32,542 --> 00:24:36,000
This is exactly what
Jon was talking about.
590
00:24:36,125 --> 00:24:37,542
We're getting thermal anomalies.
591
00:24:37,542 --> 00:24:39,875
We're getting UAP
hits on the UFODAP.
592
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,792
During this ceremony where
we brought in that one
593
00:24:42,875 --> 00:24:44,708
missing piece, the vibration.
594
00:24:44,833 --> 00:24:46,917
Two times now,
they've stopped singing.
595
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:51,458
And in both instances, the
ambient temperature went up.
596
00:24:51,542 --> 00:24:53,000
On a cold night.
PAUL: Right
597
00:24:53,083 --> 00:24:53,833
That's crazy.
598
00:24:53,875 --> 00:24:54,958
Oh yeah, no.
599
00:24:55,042 --> 00:24:56,708
Everything should
just be cooling down.
600
00:24:56,792 --> 00:24:58,542
There should be none
of these fluctuations.
601
00:24:58,625 --> 00:24:59,917
And to have it
correlate twice.
602
00:25:00,042 --> 00:25:01,292
Right.
603
00:25:01,375 --> 00:25:02,583
What would make that
temperature change?
604
00:25:14,083 --> 00:25:15,917
ANDY: What an awesome night.
605
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,167
I know we got some great
data, but I'm still sort of,
606
00:25:18,250 --> 00:25:20,875
you know, reverberating
just from the moment itself.
607
00:25:20,958 --> 00:25:22,625
It was absolutely
impressive to see.
608
00:25:22,708 --> 00:25:24,750
It was a privilege
to be part of it all.
609
00:25:24,833 --> 00:25:27,833
Not only did we see a
change in thermal activity
610
00:25:27,875 --> 00:25:30,458
based on the change in voice
and the change in song,
611
00:25:30,542 --> 00:25:32,292
but we also had
multiple UAP sightings
612
00:25:32,417 --> 00:25:33,375
over the course of the night.
613
00:25:33,458 --> 00:25:34,917
PAUL: Right.
614
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,833
Now, there was so much
going on that we actually
615
00:25:36,875 --> 00:25:38,333
didn't have the
ability to capture
616
00:25:38,417 --> 00:25:39,958
it all with our own two eyes.
617
00:25:40,042 --> 00:25:41,750
So the production team actually
went through and scrubbed
618
00:25:41,833 --> 00:25:44,125
all of the footage to find
the most significant anomalies
619
00:25:44,208 --> 00:25:45,167
captured on the UFODAP.
620
00:25:45,250 --> 00:25:46,000
Perfect.
621
00:25:48,208 --> 00:25:50,792
Now, this was the one
that we saw in real time.
622
00:25:50,875 --> 00:25:52,167
No flapping activity.
623
00:25:52,250 --> 00:25:53,833
It changes speed right
there in the middle.
624
00:25:53,917 --> 00:25:54,750
Right.
625
00:25:54,833 --> 00:25:55,958
Yeah, now that one is different.
626
00:25:56,042 --> 00:25:57,042
No question.
627
00:25:57,125 --> 00:25:59,333
Different motion,
different speed.
628
00:25:59,375 --> 00:26:00,708
That accelerating curve.
629
00:26:00,708 --> 00:26:01,375
Yep.
630
00:26:01,458 --> 00:26:02,833
Yeah, exactly right.
631
00:26:02,917 --> 00:26:04,833
And when you hear people
talk about a cigar shape,
632
00:26:04,875 --> 00:26:07,167
this is a cigar shape
flying through the sky.
633
00:26:07,208 --> 00:26:08,125
That's right.
634
00:26:08,208 --> 00:26:11,125
Now here's a new one.
635
00:26:11,208 --> 00:26:12,417
Whoa!
- Whoa.
636
00:26:12,417 --> 00:26:13,125
Whoa.
- Did you see that?
637
00:26:13,208 --> 00:26:14,542
Yeah, yeah.
638
00:26:14,625 --> 00:26:16,042
I mean, it just changed
direction right there.
639
00:26:16,167 --> 00:26:19,417
Look at how intense
that color is, too.
640
00:26:19,500 --> 00:26:22,917
But what's even more intense
is the change of direction.
641
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,792
That turn at that velocity
is just unimaginable.
642
00:26:26,875 --> 00:26:28,500
It's more than
a 90 degree turn.
643
00:26:28,500 --> 00:26:29,875
Yeah.
It turns back on itself.
644
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:30,792
120 degree turn.
645
00:26:30,875 --> 00:26:31,542
Yeah.
646
00:26:31,667 --> 00:26:32,833
That's truly strange.
647
00:26:32,958 --> 00:26:34,750
I don't know
what that thing is.
648
00:26:34,833 --> 00:26:37,667
There's no pilot on Earth that
could handle a turn like that.
649
00:26:37,708 --> 00:26:40,208
Whatever that is, that's
an object that somehow seems
650
00:26:40,208 --> 00:26:41,500
to just slice through the air.
651
00:26:41,625 --> 00:26:42,792
Right.
652
00:26:42,875 --> 00:26:45,000
And the question
again is, is this all
653
00:26:45,125 --> 00:26:46,625
connected to the ritual?
654
00:26:46,708 --> 00:26:48,583
Would we have observed
them otherwise?
655
00:26:48,667 --> 00:26:50,958
We did the ceremony at
the settlement, right.
656
00:26:51,042 --> 00:26:54,583
I want to know what effect
that might have in the canyon.
657
00:26:54,708 --> 00:26:57,042
That's where the
petroglyphs, you know,
658
00:26:57,125 --> 00:27:00,208
record the experiences
of these people.
659
00:27:00,208 --> 00:27:03,125
What they witnessed,
experienced, and maybe brought
660
00:27:03,208 --> 00:27:04,792
into being in that space.
661
00:27:04,875 --> 00:27:06,458
And then there seems
to be potentially
662
00:27:06,542 --> 00:27:09,500
some kind of correlation between
the walls that have these energy
663
00:27:09,625 --> 00:27:12,875
seams and that
swirling petroglyph
664
00:27:12,958 --> 00:27:14,708
that might indicate a portal.
665
00:27:14,833 --> 00:27:17,583
Yeah, I think we should have
Art do a ceremony in the canyon
666
00:27:17,667 --> 00:27:19,083
if he's willing.
667
00:27:19,167 --> 00:27:20,750
Jon talks about feeling
an energy in that canyon.
668
00:27:20,833 --> 00:27:22,333
I mean, I can't help
but wonder if we're
669
00:27:22,375 --> 00:27:25,000
on the verge of potentially
opening a Pandora's box.
670
00:27:37,292 --> 00:27:39,917
NARRATOR: Now that they've
documented thermal anomalies
671
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,083
and UAP sightings
during the drum ceremony
672
00:27:43,083 --> 00:27:45,458
outside the ancient
dwelling site,
673
00:27:45,542 --> 00:27:49,833
Andy and Paul had backed down
into the canyon with Jon and Art
674
00:27:49,875 --> 00:27:52,583
to see if the ceremony
around the petroglyph
675
00:27:52,667 --> 00:27:56,583
covered walls will
produce similar results.
676
00:27:56,667 --> 00:27:59,000
Art will perform an
ancient medicine man
677
00:27:59,042 --> 00:28:02,167
ceremony, where he will
invoke sacred prayers
678
00:28:02,250 --> 00:28:05,375
designed to open a portal.
679
00:28:05,458 --> 00:28:07,000
We definitely can
feel the heaviness
680
00:28:07,083 --> 00:28:10,500
within the canyon, and as
far as what may have happened
681
00:28:10,625 --> 00:28:13,500
here with the ancestors.
682
00:28:13,583 --> 00:28:16,417
This corner is
just filled with--
683
00:28:16,500 --> 00:28:19,500
look, there's the spiral that
we've seen so many times.
684
00:28:19,583 --> 00:28:20,833
ANDY: And here, too.
685
00:28:20,875 --> 00:28:21,625
I mean, the spirals
are everywhere--
686
00:28:21,708 --> 00:28:22,958
PAUL: Portal or vortex.
687
00:28:23,042 --> 00:28:24,625
The spirals are
everywhere in this section.
688
00:28:24,708 --> 00:28:26,583
I mean, look, there's
multiple of them up here.
689
00:28:26,667 --> 00:28:27,750
There's etchings here.
690
00:28:27,833 --> 00:28:28,708
And they're old, Paul.
691
00:28:28,792 --> 00:28:30,125
Look how faded they are.
692
00:28:30,208 --> 00:28:31,792
I mean, what an
incredible place to set
693
00:28:31,875 --> 00:28:33,500
up this experiment for tonight.
694
00:28:33,583 --> 00:28:35,042
What I'm going
to be doing is I'm
695
00:28:35,125 --> 00:28:38,083
actually praying to our gods.
696
00:28:38,208 --> 00:28:40,875
The terminology that comes
with it is very sacred.
697
00:28:40,958 --> 00:28:43,833
A lot of that's given from
medicine man to medicine man.
698
00:28:43,833 --> 00:28:47,542
So unfortunately, I can't
let those names be on camera.
699
00:28:47,625 --> 00:28:49,500
It's very sensitive in nature.
700
00:28:49,583 --> 00:28:51,708
It's very sensitive to the
Native American community,
701
00:28:51,792 --> 00:28:53,250
my family, et cetera.
702
00:28:53,333 --> 00:28:58,042
So in that sense, I'd
rather you just see and just
703
00:28:58,167 --> 00:29:01,250
capture anything with your
equipment that you can
704
00:29:01,250 --> 00:29:03,167
while I'm performing
this ceremony.
705
00:29:03,208 --> 00:29:04,625
OK.
706
00:29:04,708 --> 00:29:05,833
So but we want to make
sure, you don't want
707
00:29:05,917 --> 00:29:07,500
us to record any audio of you.
708
00:29:07,625 --> 00:29:09,000
Correct.
709
00:29:09,125 --> 00:29:10,333
And that's only for a
short period of time.
710
00:29:10,417 --> 00:29:11,417
PAUL: OK.
711
00:29:11,500 --> 00:29:13,583
And after that, we can resume.
712
00:29:13,667 --> 00:29:15,167
So my understanding,
this is correct,
713
00:29:15,208 --> 00:29:19,000
that yesterday's
experiments with the drum
714
00:29:19,083 --> 00:29:20,875
and the song, that
was putting out
715
00:29:20,958 --> 00:29:22,500
vibration into the environment.
716
00:29:22,542 --> 00:29:23,792
Correct.
717
00:29:23,875 --> 00:29:25,125
Whereas today, the
ceremony that you're
718
00:29:25,208 --> 00:29:27,208
going to be executing,
essentially you
719
00:29:27,333 --> 00:29:29,167
become the center
point of concentration.
720
00:29:29,208 --> 00:29:30,833
Am I understanding
that correctly?
721
00:29:30,917 --> 00:29:32,833
Yeah, no, you're right
on point with that, Andy.
722
00:29:32,917 --> 00:29:36,500
We want to concentrate
all of the energy.
723
00:29:36,542 --> 00:29:39,958
We want to bring that here
as much as we can, anyway.
724
00:29:40,042 --> 00:29:41,375
Let's get started.
- Yeah.
725
00:29:41,375 --> 00:29:42,125
OK.
726
00:29:48,208 --> 00:29:49,917
All right.
727
00:29:50,042 --> 00:29:51,417
So we've got recording on this
FLIR, recording on this FLIR.
728
00:29:51,500 --> 00:29:53,167
UFODAPs are live.
729
00:29:53,208 --> 00:29:55,667
Satellite tracker is live, and
our spectrum analyzer is live.
730
00:29:55,750 --> 00:29:56,500
OK.
731
00:30:01,208 --> 00:30:03,833
(WHISPERS) Andy,
right off the bat.
732
00:30:03,917 --> 00:30:04,667
Look at all that.
733
00:30:04,792 --> 00:30:05,750
Holy smokes.
734
00:30:11,833 --> 00:30:12,792
Look at this.
735
00:30:12,875 --> 00:30:15,917
The whole seam.
736
00:30:16,042 --> 00:30:18,500
Dude, that's just like the
other areas in the canyon.
737
00:30:18,583 --> 00:30:21,708
NARRATOR: While Navajo
medicine man Art Hardy performs
738
00:30:21,833 --> 00:30:24,833
an ancient ceremony
designed to open a portal,
739
00:30:24,833 --> 00:30:27,250
Andy and Paul are
once again seeing
740
00:30:27,333 --> 00:30:30,833
abnormally hot seams in the
crevices of the petroglyph
741
00:30:30,917 --> 00:30:33,250
covered walls.
742
00:30:33,375 --> 00:30:34,417
ANDY: I mean, that's--
743
00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:35,708
it's 10 o'clock at night, Paul.
744
00:30:35,792 --> 00:30:36,833
PAUL: Yeah.
745
00:30:36,875 --> 00:30:38,667
ANDY: How is this happening?
746
00:30:38,750 --> 00:30:40,792
There's heat
from within these.
747
00:30:40,875 --> 00:30:43,250
We have another section
of the canyon where there's
748
00:30:43,333 --> 00:30:45,625
this strong heat
signature in the seam,
749
00:30:45,708 --> 00:30:48,167
and the actual
petroglyphs around it
750
00:30:48,250 --> 00:30:50,667
are those spiraling
etchings that we're
751
00:30:50,750 --> 00:30:52,542
coming to wonder if they
have some connection
752
00:30:52,625 --> 00:30:53,833
to interdimensional portals.
753
00:30:53,958 --> 00:30:57,083
That maybe by
itself isn't enough.
754
00:30:57,083 --> 00:31:01,500
But when combined, when focused
with some sort of catalyst,
755
00:31:01,583 --> 00:31:02,542
who knows what's possible?
756
00:31:36,833 --> 00:31:40,208
[playing instrument]
757
00:31:43,708 --> 00:31:44,875
[beeps]
758
00:31:48,042 --> 00:31:49,333
That was interesting, too.
759
00:31:49,458 --> 00:31:50,125
That was a quick one.
760
00:31:50,208 --> 00:31:51,750
Let's see what that was.
761
00:31:51,750 --> 00:31:53,708
Seemed to be in the
upper left corner.
762
00:31:53,708 --> 00:31:54,542
ANDY: Right there.
You see it?
763
00:31:54,625 --> 00:31:55,750
I don't see a wing motion.
764
00:31:55,833 --> 00:31:57,833
I don't see a flapping.
765
00:31:57,917 --> 00:32:01,375
I don't know what that is.
766
00:32:01,375 --> 00:32:03,417
It looks like it comes
out of nowhere, Paul.
767
00:32:03,417 --> 00:32:04,958
Watch.
768
00:32:05,083 --> 00:32:07,667
We've got a solid two
seconds of empty space.
769
00:32:07,792 --> 00:32:10,167
And then watch
right around here.
770
00:32:10,250 --> 00:32:11,333
OK.
771
00:32:11,375 --> 00:32:13,333
ANDY: See how it
just seems to appear?
772
00:32:13,333 --> 00:32:14,750
PAUL: Yeah.
773
00:32:14,833 --> 00:32:16,083
Some strange movement.
774
00:32:16,083 --> 00:32:17,667
You know what
else is interesting?
775
00:32:17,792 --> 00:32:22,000
Is this UFODAP hit coincided
with when Art blew the recorder.
776
00:32:24,458 --> 00:32:26,667
Maybe with the end of
that part of the ceremony.
777
00:32:26,708 --> 00:32:27,417
Right.
778
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,542
Hey, guys.
779
00:32:37,542 --> 00:32:39,750
ART: We just had an
experience over here.
780
00:32:39,833 --> 00:32:40,583
Just now?
781
00:32:40,667 --> 00:32:42,500
Just now.
782
00:32:42,500 --> 00:32:46,333
I heard voices down from the
canyon over here, down further.
783
00:32:46,375 --> 00:32:49,833
I could sense that
there's something here.
784
00:32:49,958 --> 00:32:51,667
What were you guys hearing?
785
00:32:51,750 --> 00:32:56,500
Continuous but
intermittent sounds.
786
00:32:56,583 --> 00:33:01,542
Like rocks hitting the
ground behind the brush.
787
00:33:01,667 --> 00:33:02,958
Like something moving?
788
00:33:03,042 --> 00:33:03,833
Something large.
789
00:33:03,917 --> 00:33:04,833
Yeah.
790
00:33:04,917 --> 00:33:05,833
Like disturbing the rocks.
791
00:33:05,917 --> 00:33:07,083
Right.
792
00:33:07,167 --> 00:33:08,583
I didn't hear
anything like that.
793
00:33:08,708 --> 00:33:12,167
So whatever you heard was
somehow very localized.
794
00:33:12,250 --> 00:33:12,917
Yeah.
795
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,500
That's really wild.
796
00:33:14,542 --> 00:33:16,958
OK, so first of all--
797
00:33:17,042 --> 00:33:18,500
That was interesting.
798
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,667
Does it slow down and speed up?
799
00:33:23,708 --> 00:33:24,500
ANDY: Yeah, that was--
800
00:33:24,625 --> 00:33:25,667
PAUL: That's weird.
801
00:33:25,708 --> 00:33:27,167
Here's the frame by frame.
802
00:33:30,458 --> 00:33:33,958
It's similar to what we saw
up at the settlement site.
803
00:33:34,042 --> 00:33:35,750
And it also has the
change in direction
804
00:33:35,875 --> 00:33:37,000
and the change in speed.
805
00:33:37,083 --> 00:33:38,167
The acceleration.
806
00:33:38,167 --> 00:33:39,708
It looks like
a roller coaster.
807
00:33:39,792 --> 00:33:40,500
Yeah.
808
00:33:40,542 --> 00:33:41,833
Yeah.
809
00:33:41,917 --> 00:33:44,083
Nothing on the FAA tracker.
810
00:33:44,167 --> 00:33:46,250
I mean, Paul, that's a UAP.
811
00:33:46,333 --> 00:33:47,875
That's absolutely unidentified.
812
00:33:47,875 --> 00:33:48,667
Yeah.
813
00:33:51,167 --> 00:33:54,542
JON: Oh, look at that.
814
00:33:54,667 --> 00:33:55,875
Changing direction.
815
00:33:55,875 --> 00:33:56,833
PAUL: Did that change
direction on us?
816
00:33:56,917 --> 00:33:58,417
Wow.
817
00:33:58,500 --> 00:34:00,167
Completely different
direction than previously.
818
00:34:00,250 --> 00:34:01,667
PAUL: Something's going on here.
819
00:34:01,750 --> 00:34:04,792
So we have one UFODAP
that's up on the cliff edge,
820
00:34:04,875 --> 00:34:06,542
and then we have
one that's here.
821
00:34:06,625 --> 00:34:09,333
And this is the one that's down
here in the valley with us.
822
00:34:09,333 --> 00:34:10,708
So all these hits
that we've been
823
00:34:10,792 --> 00:34:13,667
seeing of whatever this is--
824
00:34:13,708 --> 00:34:15,000
Are right here.
825
00:34:15,083 --> 00:34:17,167
This is down in the canyon.
826
00:34:17,208 --> 00:34:20,083
This isn't at altitude.
827
00:34:20,208 --> 00:34:23,042
It is fascinating to me,
Paul, that the multiple
828
00:34:23,125 --> 00:34:25,167
sightings that we've
seen of this tonight.
829
00:34:25,292 --> 00:34:27,167
But they've been
happening multiple times
830
00:34:27,292 --> 00:34:32,417
since the four of us have been
standing here at base camp.
831
00:34:32,500 --> 00:34:34,250
Whatever the phenomenon
is right now,
832
00:34:34,333 --> 00:34:36,625
it does seem to be
hovering around Art.
833
00:34:36,708 --> 00:34:38,917
In my ceremony,
that's what I requested.
834
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,875
Was like, show yourself.
835
00:34:40,958 --> 00:34:42,542
Goes back to what I just said.
836
00:34:42,667 --> 00:34:44,667
You know, sometimes
we manifest things.
837
00:34:44,750 --> 00:34:48,000
And then if you're looking
for evidence, Andy,
838
00:34:48,083 --> 00:34:49,750
I present it to you, sir.
839
00:34:49,833 --> 00:34:51,250
This was a fantastic night.
840
00:34:51,333 --> 00:34:53,917
Absolutely a success
on multiple fronts.
841
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,500
And what I want to know is if
the Skinwalker team can analyze
842
00:34:56,542 --> 00:34:59,125
this data in any way
that we can't to find
843
00:34:59,208 --> 00:35:02,042
any semblance of causation.
844
00:35:02,042 --> 00:35:03,083
Thank you so much.
845
00:35:03,083 --> 00:35:04,042
PAUL: Thanks, guys.
846
00:35:13,333 --> 00:35:15,167
Well, gentlemen,
welcome back to the ranch.
847
00:35:15,208 --> 00:35:18,583
I understand you're fresh
off of a very different
848
00:35:18,667 --> 00:35:20,167
kind of investigation.
849
00:35:20,375 --> 00:35:22,458
I'm so anxious to learn what
you learned at Rock Art Ranch.
850
00:35:22,542 --> 00:35:24,333
I was blown away
by this place.
851
00:35:24,417 --> 00:35:27,375
I mean, this was an absolute
joy of an investigation.
852
00:35:27,458 --> 00:35:30,542
It was everything you
promised it would be and more.
853
00:35:30,542 --> 00:35:33,750
I mean, being able to see these
petroglyphs up close inches away
854
00:35:33,833 --> 00:35:34,667
from your face.
855
00:35:34,708 --> 00:35:35,958
I can still feel it now.
856
00:35:36,042 --> 00:35:38,542
The sense of awe.
857
00:35:38,625 --> 00:35:43,083
And our data was difficult
to make sense of, frankly.
858
00:35:43,208 --> 00:35:45,500
While we were in this
corner, the spiral
859
00:35:45,542 --> 00:35:49,167
portal symbols on the wall, the
types of petroglyphs that were
860
00:35:49,208 --> 00:35:51,167
on this wall, Jon
was speculating to us
861
00:35:51,250 --> 00:35:53,042
that this might be a portal.
862
00:35:53,125 --> 00:35:55,042
Yeah, this is
weird, these results.
863
00:35:55,167 --> 00:35:56,833
I still don't know
what to make of it.
864
00:35:56,833 --> 00:36:00,833
Can you-- can you aim right
into that crevice right there?
865
00:36:00,875 --> 00:36:01,750
You see the dark spot?
866
00:36:01,875 --> 00:36:03,000
PAUL: OK.
867
00:36:03,042 --> 00:36:04,708
ANDY: Do you see
what I'm seeing?
868
00:36:04,833 --> 00:36:07,208
The heat that's sort of
trapped in that corner.
869
00:36:07,292 --> 00:36:08,542
Why would there be--
870
00:36:08,542 --> 00:36:09,667
seems like it should
be cold in there.
871
00:36:09,792 --> 00:36:11,500
PAUL: Yeah.
872
00:36:11,542 --> 00:36:14,292
The deeper into the corner
you look, the hotter it got.
873
00:36:14,375 --> 00:36:16,333
That's not intuitive at all.
PAUL: No, it doesn't make sense.
874
00:36:16,417 --> 00:36:17,375
- Does that make sense to you?
- No.
875
00:36:17,500 --> 00:36:18,917
What direction is that facing?
876
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:19,708
Where is heat?
877
00:36:19,792 --> 00:36:21,417
I want to say south.
878
00:36:21,542 --> 00:36:24,500
So sunlight never was directly
pointing right down the crevice.
879
00:36:24,542 --> 00:36:26,083
PAUL: Not there.
880
00:36:26,167 --> 00:36:30,000
But those portal designs seem
to be clustered in these areas.
881
00:36:30,083 --> 00:36:31,958
You can see you've got
our wheels turning over
882
00:36:32,042 --> 00:36:33,000
here on this side of the table.
883
00:36:33,083 --> 00:36:34,500
But that is--
884
00:36:34,583 --> 00:36:36,292
it's really fantastic, though.
885
00:36:36,375 --> 00:36:39,625
And the anthropologists told
us there are ceremonial places,
886
00:36:39,708 --> 00:36:42,500
where their magic portals were
and things like that, they let
887
00:36:42,542 --> 00:36:45,833
Mother Nature tell them where
it was instead of them picking
888
00:36:45,917 --> 00:36:47,333
the place or building it.
889
00:36:47,417 --> 00:36:49,000
This could really play
in an interesting way.
890
00:36:49,167 --> 00:36:50,667
Absolutely could.
891
00:36:50,750 --> 00:36:52,917
So after seeing the canyon
where the actual petroglyphs
892
00:36:53,083 --> 00:36:55,375
were, our next objective
was to get a sense
893
00:36:55,458 --> 00:36:57,292
of where these people lived.
894
00:36:57,375 --> 00:37:00,958
And Jon took us to some
incredibly well preserved
895
00:37:01,042 --> 00:37:02,417
remnants of their dwellings.
896
00:37:02,542 --> 00:37:06,000
So Jon arranged to have
a Native American drum
897
00:37:06,083 --> 00:37:10,125
and singing group join
us for deep prayer
898
00:37:10,125 --> 00:37:12,125
based ceremonial song.
899
00:37:12,208 --> 00:37:13,042
I like that.
900
00:37:13,042 --> 00:37:14,208
Perfect.
901
00:37:14,333 --> 00:37:16,917
PAUL: Andy, Andy,
we're down to 19.
902
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,000
When they started up again?
903
00:37:18,083 --> 00:37:18,875
PAUL: Yep.
904
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,833
18.
905
00:37:20,917 --> 00:37:22,375
17.
906
00:37:22,458 --> 00:37:23,833
What is happening, man?
907
00:37:23,833 --> 00:37:25,708
16.
908
00:37:25,792 --> 00:37:28,833
Wow, look at that.
909
00:37:28,875 --> 00:37:31,125
15.
910
00:37:31,208 --> 00:37:32,542
Dude.
911
00:37:32,542 --> 00:37:34,125
Wow, temperature's
really dropping.
912
00:37:34,208 --> 00:37:35,500
PAUL: Really dropping.
913
00:37:35,583 --> 00:37:39,500
We dropped seven degrees
in just a few minutes.
914
00:37:39,583 --> 00:37:42,333
And then we made
another observation.
915
00:37:42,417 --> 00:37:45,250
So the ceremony, the
singing just stopped.
916
00:37:45,333 --> 00:37:47,292
Look at that.
917
00:37:47,292 --> 00:37:51,167
We've gone up in temperature
since the music stopped.
918
00:37:51,250 --> 00:37:53,167
That's absolutely repeatable.
919
00:37:53,208 --> 00:37:54,333
We have seen that.
920
00:37:54,417 --> 00:37:56,000
I can't explain it.
921
00:37:56,042 --> 00:37:57,667
We measured it
with Blazing Bear.
922
00:37:57,708 --> 00:37:59,833
We've measured it
with the rabbi.
923
00:37:59,875 --> 00:38:03,000
I don't understand it, but
it is a real phenomenon.
924
00:38:03,042 --> 00:38:05,458
We obviously had the UFODAP
running at the same time
925
00:38:05,542 --> 00:38:07,000
as the experiment.
- I was going to ask about that.
926
00:38:07,042 --> 00:38:07,833
Yep.
Yeah,
927
00:38:07,875 --> 00:38:09,125
There we go.
928
00:38:09,208 --> 00:38:10,250
I was watching
in that direction,
929
00:38:10,333 --> 00:38:11,500
seeing if I could see anything.
930
00:38:11,542 --> 00:38:13,083
I didn't find anything yet.
931
00:38:13,208 --> 00:38:14,333
TRAVIS: Uh, there was something.
932
00:38:14,458 --> 00:38:15,667
ERIK: Looked like--
933
00:38:15,750 --> 00:38:16,708
A meteorite maybe.
934
00:38:16,833 --> 00:38:17,833
ERIK: A meteor, uh-huh.
935
00:38:17,875 --> 00:38:19,292
PAUL: Except as this--
936
00:38:19,375 --> 00:38:20,875
Did it change its course?
937
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,125
PAUL: Yeah.
938
00:38:22,208 --> 00:38:23,000
Look, look at that.
ERIK: Wait.
939
00:38:23,083 --> 00:38:24,000
What?
940
00:38:24,125 --> 00:38:25,125
What just happened there?
941
00:38:25,208 --> 00:38:26,083
PAUL: It sort of surfs.
942
00:38:26,167 --> 00:38:27,292
Direction and altitude.
943
00:38:27,375 --> 00:38:28,458
Let me it to you at full speed.
- Wait.
944
00:38:28,542 --> 00:38:29,708
What time of year?
It was cold.
945
00:38:29,792 --> 00:38:31,167
There's no bugs
flying at 20 degrees.
946
00:38:31,208 --> 00:38:32,083
PAUL: Very cold.
947
00:38:32,167 --> 00:38:33,125
What, what?
948
00:38:33,208 --> 00:38:34,375
What did I just see here?
949
00:38:34,458 --> 00:38:35,792
ANDY: Let me show
it to you again.
950
00:38:38,458 --> 00:38:39,833
What in the--
951
00:38:39,917 --> 00:38:40,792
Yeah.
952
00:38:40,875 --> 00:38:43,417
[laughter]
953
00:38:43,500 --> 00:38:46,625
PAUL: That's my favorite
Travis reaction so far.
954
00:38:46,708 --> 00:38:49,708
I mean, we-- we're obviously
amused at our own confusion.
955
00:38:49,833 --> 00:38:51,625
And confused with
our own amusement.
956
00:38:51,708 --> 00:38:52,750
ERIK: Yes.
957
00:38:52,833 --> 00:38:54,333
I would agree with
that as well, I think.
958
00:38:54,417 --> 00:38:57,583
So, here we have another
UFODAP hit that we're
959
00:38:57,667 --> 00:38:59,625
not quite sure what to make of.
960
00:38:59,708 --> 00:39:02,542
So first, you see the boxes
keying in on something
961
00:39:02,625 --> 00:39:03,833
in the upper right-hand side.
962
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:04,917
But then you see this.
963
00:39:05,042 --> 00:39:06,167
What the-- what?
964
00:39:06,250 --> 00:39:07,083
What is that?
965
00:39:09,833 --> 00:39:10,542
Where does it end up?
966
00:39:10,708 --> 00:39:12,292
Where does that thing go to?
967
00:39:12,292 --> 00:39:13,917
ANDY: It disappears in
the center of the screen.
968
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,583
Look, if it's out there and
it comes in and does that,
969
00:39:17,667 --> 00:39:20,333
the g-forces on that
would be ridiculous.
970
00:39:20,542 --> 00:39:22,042
PAUL: Uh, that's
strange, isn't it?
971
00:39:22,042 --> 00:39:23,333
- It's strange.
- OK.
972
00:39:23,417 --> 00:39:25,458
This is definitely a
piece of footage that
973
00:39:25,542 --> 00:39:26,792
warrants some post-processing.
974
00:39:26,875 --> 00:39:28,292
I'd like to get
this raw footage.
975
00:39:28,375 --> 00:39:29,792
And further investigation.
976
00:39:29,875 --> 00:39:31,292
ERIK: Absolutely.
977
00:39:31,375 --> 00:39:32,833
ANDY: But wait--
978
00:39:32,875 --> 00:39:34,542
There's more.
979
00:39:34,667 --> 00:39:36,542
ANDY: When we showed Art the
same UFODAP footage that you
980
00:39:36,625 --> 00:39:39,500
just saw, that was when he
came up with the idea of taking
981
00:39:39,542 --> 00:39:41,458
and replicating this
similar experiment
982
00:39:41,542 --> 00:39:43,375
inside the canyon itself.
983
00:39:43,375 --> 00:39:46,125
Now, here's where we could start
recording what Art was doing--
984
00:39:46,208 --> 00:39:47,667
Uh-huh.
985
00:39:47,875 --> 00:39:50,208
--following specifically
the whistle that Art used
986
00:39:50,292 --> 00:39:51,417
at the end of the ceremony.
987
00:39:51,500 --> 00:39:52,583
[whistling sound]
988
00:39:52,708 --> 00:39:53,917
ERIK: There.
989
00:39:54,042 --> 00:39:55,167
[beep sound]
990
00:39:55,250 --> 00:39:56,958
ANDY: And then you
heard that right away.
991
00:39:57,042 --> 00:39:59,083
That was the UFODAP hit.
992
00:39:59,167 --> 00:39:59,875
Are you kidding?
993
00:40:02,208 --> 00:40:03,500
Did it do that?
994
00:40:03,583 --> 00:40:04,667
TRAVIS: It did the
same thing again.
995
00:40:04,750 --> 00:40:06,042
- What did we just--
- Look at that.
996
00:40:06,125 --> 00:40:07,167
It's doing the same thing.
PAUL: The other day--
997
00:40:07,250 --> 00:40:08,333
TRAVIS: And it's vanishing.
998
00:40:08,375 --> 00:40:11,542
And it goes the other way.
999
00:40:11,667 --> 00:40:13,292
ERIK: There's an
abrupt change there.
1000
00:40:13,375 --> 00:40:15,250
Satellites don't
make moves like that.
1001
00:40:15,375 --> 00:40:17,208
Here's the big
reveal about this one.
1002
00:40:17,292 --> 00:40:21,125
ANDY: We had two UFODAPs looking
at the same patch of sky.
1003
00:40:21,208 --> 00:40:22,500
Excellent.
1004
00:40:22,583 --> 00:40:24,875
But with about 60 feet
difference in altitude.
1005
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,333
PAUL: This is from the
DAP inside the canyon.
1006
00:40:27,333 --> 00:40:28,375
All right.
1007
00:40:28,375 --> 00:40:29,500
So show us the other one.
1008
00:40:29,542 --> 00:40:30,583
The other one didn't--
1009
00:40:30,667 --> 00:40:33,167
The other one didn't get it.
1010
00:40:33,250 --> 00:40:35,000
So--
1011
00:40:35,083 --> 00:40:38,750
PAUL: Whatever this is, it's
below the rim of the canyon.
1012
00:40:38,833 --> 00:40:39,958
How?
1013
00:40:39,958 --> 00:40:43,250
Are you sure there
wasn't any obstruction
1014
00:40:43,375 --> 00:40:46,000
above the UFODAP in the bottom?
1015
00:40:46,125 --> 00:40:47,167
There's nothing above us.
1016
00:40:47,292 --> 00:40:48,875
I mean, there's
some low, sort of,
1017
00:40:48,958 --> 00:40:52,458
brushy trees along the edges,
but not where we set up.
1018
00:40:52,542 --> 00:40:54,208
We couldn't explain it.
1019
00:40:54,292 --> 00:40:57,167
And from the data that we were
collecting, it was close to us.
1020
00:40:57,333 --> 00:40:58,708
PAUL: The most
reassuring thing actually
1021
00:40:58,792 --> 00:41:02,333
was sort of Art's sort of
calm demeanor like, well,
1022
00:41:02,417 --> 00:41:03,583
yeah, what did you expect?
1023
00:41:03,667 --> 00:41:05,042
This is what we're here to do.
1024
00:41:05,125 --> 00:41:06,125
Yeah.
1025
00:41:06,208 --> 00:41:07,417
Yeah.
1026
00:41:07,500 --> 00:41:09,125
There's a perception
that it's going
1027
00:41:09,208 --> 00:41:12,000
to be a nuts and bolts
spacecraft with little aliens
1028
00:41:12,083 --> 00:41:13,333
in it in spacesuits.
1029
00:41:13,458 --> 00:41:17,417
And so who's to say that
it's not something more
1030
00:41:17,500 --> 00:41:20,958
akin to an orb that travels.
1031
00:41:21,042 --> 00:41:24,667
So are they telling us something
with these petroglyphs about
1032
00:41:24,750 --> 00:41:27,875
what is capable in
these locations?
1033
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,792
Were they depicting the story of
traveling through a portal using
1034
00:41:31,875 --> 00:41:34,833
energy frequency and
vibration, the intermingling
1035
00:41:34,917 --> 00:41:36,833
of all the things
vibrating together.
1036
00:41:36,875 --> 00:41:38,333
Right.
1037
00:41:38,417 --> 00:41:40,583
Jon Dover said the same
thing about energy,
1038
00:41:40,583 --> 00:41:42,333
frequency, and vibration.
1039
00:41:42,417 --> 00:41:44,625
It's the idea of
cause and effect.
1040
00:41:44,708 --> 00:41:47,500
We do this, we get this outcome.
1041
00:41:47,542 --> 00:41:50,125
And that seems to be the
story that we're reading out
1042
00:41:50,208 --> 00:41:52,292
of those petroglyph records.
1043
00:41:52,375 --> 00:41:56,000
I'm determined to be caught red
handed in the act of learning.
1044
00:41:56,042 --> 00:41:59,333
And I feel like this might
be one of those moments.
1045
00:41:59,375 --> 00:42:00,500
I'm with you.
1046
00:42:00,542 --> 00:42:01,917
For sure.
TRAVIS: Fantastic
1047
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:02,583
PAUL: Thank you.
1048
00:42:02,708 --> 00:42:03,583
TRAVIS: Thank you, guys.
1049
00:42:03,667 --> 00:42:05,625
ANDY: Thanks, guys.
1050
00:42:05,708 --> 00:42:07,000
ERIK: Believe
anything you just saw?
1051
00:42:07,083 --> 00:42:08,167
TRAVIS: I don't know
what I just saw.
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