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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,208 --> 00:00:04,958 NARRATOR: Tonight on Beyond Skinwalker Ranch. 2 00:00:05,042 --> 00:00:10,833 We don't know if they were from interstellar space-- 3 00:00:10,917 --> 00:00:13,792 Or we don't know if they're from a different dimension. 4 00:00:13,875 --> 00:00:16,708 We're basically saying here that these people were visited 5 00:00:16,833 --> 00:00:18,833 or they experienced contact. 6 00:00:18,917 --> 00:00:20,000 That's correct. 7 00:00:20,042 --> 00:00:21,208 MAN 1: We're down to 19. 8 00:00:21,292 --> 00:00:22,583 MAN 2: When they started up again? 9 00:00:22,667 --> 00:00:23,458 Yep. 10 00:00:23,542 --> 00:00:24,250 18. 11 00:00:24,333 --> 00:00:25,458 What is happening, man? 12 00:00:25,542 --> 00:00:26,875 16. 13 00:00:26,958 --> 00:00:28,000 Dude. 14 00:00:28,208 --> 00:00:29,125 MAN 3: What in the-- 15 00:00:31,875 --> 00:00:33,500 [laughs] 16 00:00:33,583 --> 00:00:37,292 That's my favorite Travis reaction so far. 17 00:00:37,375 --> 00:00:39,167 NARRATOR: For years, scientists have 18 00:00:39,250 --> 00:00:43,167 been working to reveal the secrets of Skinwalker Ranch. 19 00:00:43,208 --> 00:00:45,333 But is it possible that the clues 20 00:00:45,375 --> 00:00:48,250 to unlock the mystery are located 21 00:00:48,333 --> 00:00:51,833 beyond the borders of this hub of high strangeness? 22 00:00:51,917 --> 00:00:53,500 Wow. 23 00:00:53,542 --> 00:00:56,542 NARRATOR: Now, an ex-CIA agent and a veteran journalist 24 00:00:56,625 --> 00:00:58,875 have been recruited by the Skinwalker team 25 00:00:58,958 --> 00:01:01,417 to go on a high stakes mission across America. 26 00:01:01,500 --> 00:01:03,208 Look at all this activity that's happening. 27 00:01:03,375 --> 00:01:04,500 ANDY: That's unbelievable. 28 00:01:04,583 --> 00:01:05,833 PAUL: That is right over our heads. 29 00:01:05,917 --> 00:01:07,042 That's it, that's it right there! 30 00:01:07,125 --> 00:01:08,333 NARRATOR: The goal-- uncover evidence that 31 00:01:08,417 --> 00:01:10,250 may finally expose the truth. 32 00:01:10,333 --> 00:01:11,667 MAN 4: How is this happening? 33 00:01:11,667 --> 00:01:13,125 MAN 5: Now it's going to get interesting. 34 00:01:13,208 --> 00:01:14,375 ANDY: Look, it's moving! 35 00:01:14,500 --> 00:01:15,167 Look at that! 36 00:01:18,042 --> 00:01:19,417 PAUL: This is just the beginning. 37 00:01:22,125 --> 00:01:23,625 Well, Paul and Andy, it's great to have 38 00:01:23,708 --> 00:01:25,042 you back at the table. 39 00:01:25,125 --> 00:01:26,542 Now, I understand you guys have something 40 00:01:26,625 --> 00:01:28,917 of a very different nature lined up this time, 41 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,083 something very special. 42 00:01:30,208 --> 00:01:31,500 I think this is an interesting one. 43 00:01:31,583 --> 00:01:34,500 This is sort of a different jumping off point for us 44 00:01:34,542 --> 00:01:36,083 than usual. 45 00:01:36,167 --> 00:01:38,958 This is not an area where there's necessarily been 46 00:01:39,042 --> 00:01:41,917 a recent strange phenomenon. 47 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,667 It's more sort of a long history of it. 48 00:01:43,750 --> 00:01:45,458 ERIK: OK. 49 00:01:45,542 --> 00:01:46,875 PAUL: Right, we're interested in visiting this place called 50 00:01:46,958 --> 00:01:48,375 Rock Art Ranch in Arizona. 51 00:01:48,458 --> 00:01:50,167 TRAVIS: I'm very familiar with Rock Art Ranch. 52 00:01:50,292 --> 00:01:52,667 So then you know it has really one of the largest 53 00:01:52,667 --> 00:01:56,792 sort of privately held petroglyph sites in the country 54 00:01:56,875 --> 00:01:59,333 and maybe in the world. 55 00:01:59,375 --> 00:02:02,958 NARRATOR: Rock Art Ranch is a private cattle ranch in Northern 56 00:02:03,083 --> 00:02:05,625 Arizona, where it's home to thousands 57 00:02:05,708 --> 00:02:08,333 of ancient Native American petroglyphs. 58 00:02:08,417 --> 00:02:11,542 The petroglyphs on the ranch are carvings on the rock 59 00:02:11,625 --> 00:02:15,667 surface made by Indigenous people who lived in the area. 60 00:02:15,708 --> 00:02:19,542 For these Native Americans, petroglyphs were a sacred form 61 00:02:19,667 --> 00:02:22,250 of documentation used to communicate 62 00:02:22,333 --> 00:02:27,042 details of their lives for over 13,000 years. 63 00:02:27,167 --> 00:02:30,542 For the past five years, the team at Skinwalker 64 00:02:30,625 --> 00:02:35,000 has been investigating the petroglyphs on their ranch. 65 00:02:35,042 --> 00:02:37,500 What I'm looking at is these curves. 66 00:02:37,583 --> 00:02:40,458 It's a metaphor for a serpent or a snake. 67 00:02:40,542 --> 00:02:43,083 Snakes represents two different worlds. 68 00:02:43,167 --> 00:02:45,458 So it's a guardian to the portals. 69 00:02:45,458 --> 00:02:47,667 NARRATOR: Veteran Navajo Ranger Jon 70 00:02:47,750 --> 00:02:50,375 Dover also analyzed the petroglyphs 71 00:02:50,458 --> 00:02:52,875 surrounding Skinwalker Ranch. 72 00:02:52,958 --> 00:02:55,208 The spiral seems to be universal. 73 00:02:55,292 --> 00:02:59,792 This spiral could refer to some kind of a portal. 74 00:02:59,875 --> 00:03:02,333 NARRATOR: This spiral symbol in the petroglyphs 75 00:03:02,458 --> 00:03:05,708 is also seen in an ancient stone circle 76 00:03:05,833 --> 00:03:08,167 on top of the Skinwalker mesa. 77 00:03:08,250 --> 00:03:12,000 We have basically a spiral right here that's 78 00:03:12,083 --> 00:03:15,708 been put into this ground here. 79 00:03:15,708 --> 00:03:19,333 NARRATOR: Now, Andy and Paul plan to join up with Jon Dover 80 00:03:19,417 --> 00:03:23,000 to investigate Rock Art Ranch, one of the largest petroglyph 81 00:03:23,125 --> 00:03:25,833 sites in the country, to dive much deeper 82 00:03:25,875 --> 00:03:29,667 into the phenomena surrounding these ancient carvings. 83 00:03:29,750 --> 00:03:31,833 So Jon Dover invited us out to the ranch 84 00:03:31,917 --> 00:03:35,583 to conduct a fulsome investigation there and compare 85 00:03:35,708 --> 00:03:37,792 the petroglyphs that exist there with the petroglyphs 86 00:03:37,875 --> 00:03:39,542 that you've had here on Skinwalker Ranch 87 00:03:39,708 --> 00:03:43,000 and see if we can't find some correlation with the phenomenon. 88 00:03:43,083 --> 00:03:44,542 Think about whatever you're looking 89 00:03:44,667 --> 00:03:47,417 at there, what it could be that it's trying to tell you. 90 00:03:47,500 --> 00:03:49,667 It's probably not just a record. 91 00:03:49,750 --> 00:03:53,083 It's probably a spot of interest. 92 00:03:53,167 --> 00:03:56,667 You know, that reminds me of a Ute shaman 93 00:03:56,750 --> 00:03:59,708 told us that the Indigenous people 94 00:03:59,708 --> 00:04:04,250 around here used the cave systems as a portal system. 95 00:04:04,333 --> 00:04:08,000 These places like this may be a doorway or a window 96 00:04:08,083 --> 00:04:09,417 to somewhere else. 97 00:04:09,417 --> 00:04:11,833 Now the possibility of something like a portal, 98 00:04:11,917 --> 00:04:13,792 that really gets my attention. 99 00:04:13,875 --> 00:04:15,625 I can't wait to see what you guys bring back. 100 00:04:15,708 --> 00:04:16,958 All right. 101 00:04:17,042 --> 00:04:18,500 This is definitely going to be worth your while. 102 00:04:18,583 --> 00:04:19,833 PAUL: All right, we're excited. ERIK: All right, guys. 103 00:04:19,875 --> 00:04:20,542 TRAVIS: See you soon, gents. Good luck. 104 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,917 PAUL: I'm so excited to be back in Northern Arizona, 105 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,500 on the edges of Navajo Nation. 106 00:04:40,583 --> 00:04:42,375 Look at just how vast it is. 107 00:04:42,458 --> 00:04:45,417 It feels like we're in the middle of nowhere. 108 00:04:45,500 --> 00:04:47,375 Well, I mean, this speaks to exactly how preserved 109 00:04:47,500 --> 00:04:48,792 this location must be. 110 00:04:48,958 --> 00:04:51,167 I mean, there's no sign of civilization anywhere 111 00:04:51,208 --> 00:04:52,167 near where we're going. 112 00:04:52,208 --> 00:04:53,417 Yeah. 113 00:04:53,500 --> 00:04:54,833 ANDY: Ancient people habituated here. 114 00:04:54,917 --> 00:04:56,500 I mean, they came here, they built a life here, 115 00:04:56,542 --> 00:04:57,833 they left a history here. 116 00:04:57,875 --> 00:04:59,292 And that's what we're here to explore. 117 00:04:59,292 --> 00:05:01,000 What we know about this place is that it 118 00:05:01,083 --> 00:05:03,333 has thousands of petroglyphs. 119 00:05:03,417 --> 00:05:05,167 And as many as have been discovered, 120 00:05:05,167 --> 00:05:06,250 there are maybe many more. 121 00:05:06,333 --> 00:05:07,917 ANDY: Yeah. 122 00:05:08,042 --> 00:05:09,958 Compare that with Skinwalker, which has a few petroglyphs. 123 00:05:09,958 --> 00:05:13,917 This place is potentially a wealth of information and energy 124 00:05:14,042 --> 00:05:17,667 and stories and history that really we've never experienced. 125 00:05:17,750 --> 00:05:19,458 The petroglyphs at Skinwalker Ranch 126 00:05:19,542 --> 00:05:21,167 seem to suggest that there might be 127 00:05:21,208 --> 00:05:24,292 some kind of interdimensional portal around that area. 128 00:05:24,375 --> 00:05:25,667 So the question for us is really, 129 00:05:25,750 --> 00:05:28,000 can we identify any of the same anomalous activity 130 00:05:28,083 --> 00:05:30,375 here around the petroglyphs slides at this location? 131 00:05:33,375 --> 00:05:36,167 PAUL: This is exciting. 132 00:05:36,250 --> 00:05:37,083 ANDY: There's Jon. 133 00:05:37,167 --> 00:05:38,167 PAUL: Mr. Jon. 134 00:05:38,250 --> 00:05:41,333 ANDY: Always great to see him. 135 00:05:41,375 --> 00:05:42,375 How's it going? 136 00:05:42,458 --> 00:05:43,792 Good to see you again, man. 137 00:05:43,875 --> 00:05:45,833 - Yeah, really good to see you. - Hey, Jon. 138 00:05:45,917 --> 00:05:46,375 How are you, sir? 139 00:05:46,458 --> 00:05:47,667 Doing great. 140 00:05:47,750 --> 00:05:49,167 We've got some really interesting 141 00:05:49,208 --> 00:05:50,750 things to show you today. 142 00:05:50,833 --> 00:05:52,875 You've been able to actually research the petroglyphs 143 00:05:52,958 --> 00:05:53,875 at Skinwalker Ranch. 144 00:05:53,958 --> 00:05:55,250 What is it about these petroglyphs here 145 00:05:55,417 --> 00:05:57,208 that you think are noteworthy? 146 00:05:57,292 --> 00:05:59,958 Well, we're seeing the same symbols, 147 00:06:00,042 --> 00:06:02,667 but on a much larger scale. 148 00:06:02,708 --> 00:06:05,500 Skinwalker Ranch just has a few petroglyphs. 149 00:06:05,583 --> 00:06:08,667 This place is just going to blow your mind. 150 00:06:08,708 --> 00:06:10,500 Wow. 151 00:06:10,583 --> 00:06:11,708 Jon, do you know, has there ever been any kind of investigation 152 00:06:11,833 --> 00:06:13,417 out here? 153 00:06:13,500 --> 00:06:14,833 I mean, aside from people just looking at them. 154 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,375 And you know, there's been a lot of sort of research 155 00:06:16,458 --> 00:06:18,042 about petroglyphs and what they might mean. 156 00:06:18,125 --> 00:06:21,333 But actual investigation and experiments performed out here. 157 00:06:21,375 --> 00:06:23,167 There have been none. 158 00:06:23,167 --> 00:06:26,917 So you're going to be the first guys to put instruments on this. 159 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:27,792 That's awesome. 160 00:06:27,875 --> 00:06:28,917 This is a clean slate. 161 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:30,458 You know, it's uncharted territory for us 162 00:06:30,583 --> 00:06:32,125 to be the first to do this. - Absolutely. 163 00:06:32,125 --> 00:06:33,125 I'm excited to get out there. 164 00:06:33,208 --> 00:06:33,958 Yeah. 165 00:06:34,042 --> 00:06:34,833 Let's do it. 166 00:06:37,625 --> 00:06:40,792 NARRATOR: With Navajo Ranger Jon Dover leading the way, 167 00:06:40,792 --> 00:06:44,625 the team heads out about three miles west to the canyons, 168 00:06:44,708 --> 00:06:49,542 where over 3,000 well-preserved petroglyphs have been found. 169 00:06:49,542 --> 00:06:51,375 Have the petroglyphs been dated? 170 00:06:51,500 --> 00:06:53,250 What do we know about them? 171 00:06:53,333 --> 00:06:59,375 We know that the people were here about 500 AD to about 1070, 172 00:06:59,375 --> 00:07:00,833 and then they disappeared. 173 00:07:05,458 --> 00:07:07,167 You really do feel like you're entering 174 00:07:07,250 --> 00:07:09,708 some kind of sacred space. 175 00:07:13,208 --> 00:07:15,917 This place is just astonishing. 176 00:07:15,917 --> 00:07:17,000 Yeah. 177 00:07:17,042 --> 00:07:18,042 Wow. 178 00:07:18,125 --> 00:07:20,042 What a spot. 179 00:07:20,125 --> 00:07:21,417 ANDY: Look at all those. 180 00:07:21,500 --> 00:07:23,167 Oh my god. 181 00:07:23,292 --> 00:07:24,375 JON: And these are just-- 182 00:07:24,500 --> 00:07:26,125 just a few. 183 00:07:26,292 --> 00:07:27,625 Are those carved in? 184 00:07:30,292 --> 00:07:31,833 Those are carved in. 185 00:07:31,958 --> 00:07:33,333 That's incredible. 186 00:07:33,375 --> 00:07:34,417 There's animals. 187 00:07:34,542 --> 00:07:35,667 There's humans. 188 00:07:35,708 --> 00:07:38,458 There's sort of humanoids. 189 00:07:38,542 --> 00:07:40,250 Some of the figures that you see up 190 00:07:40,375 --> 00:07:44,292 here, if you count the fingers, some of them have three fingers. 191 00:07:44,375 --> 00:07:45,875 Some of them have five. 192 00:07:45,958 --> 00:07:49,750 And the accuracy when these things are made 193 00:07:49,875 --> 00:07:53,167 is important to realize that they were recording 194 00:07:53,167 --> 00:07:55,958 things that they actually saw. 195 00:07:55,958 --> 00:07:58,500 And if they saw three-fingered beings, 196 00:07:58,583 --> 00:08:01,167 that's what they recorded. 197 00:08:01,333 --> 00:08:04,583 Is there an interpretation of what these three-fingered 198 00:08:04,667 --> 00:08:06,542 people or creatures are? 199 00:08:06,625 --> 00:08:08,792 They represent star people. 200 00:08:08,875 --> 00:08:10,667 Star people? 201 00:08:10,708 --> 00:08:13,208 So we're basically saying here that these people were visited 202 00:08:13,292 --> 00:08:15,292 or they experienced contact-- 203 00:08:15,375 --> 00:08:16,292 JON: That's correct. 204 00:08:16,375 --> 00:08:17,500 --with extraterrestrials. 205 00:08:17,583 --> 00:08:19,667 That's really quite humbling. 206 00:08:19,750 --> 00:08:22,000 Yeah this is not rock art. 207 00:08:22,042 --> 00:08:24,750 They actually had a purpose for putting 208 00:08:24,833 --> 00:08:30,958 this on the face of this rock and in the location that it is. 209 00:08:31,042 --> 00:08:36,583 Now, I'd like to point out that the orb under that guy's arm 210 00:08:36,667 --> 00:08:38,000 might not be an orb. 211 00:08:38,083 --> 00:08:42,208 If you look at it closely, it looks like a spiral. 212 00:08:42,292 --> 00:08:45,125 In Native culture, spirals always 213 00:08:45,208 --> 00:08:47,208 are an indication of migration. 214 00:08:47,292 --> 00:08:52,292 However, we've reinterpreted it to symbolize a portal. 215 00:08:52,375 --> 00:08:53,542 - Wow. - Right. 216 00:08:53,542 --> 00:08:54,375 A portal. 217 00:08:54,458 --> 00:08:56,125 Right. 218 00:08:56,208 --> 00:08:59,208 We believe that the ancients had the ability to manipulate 219 00:08:59,333 --> 00:09:00,750 these dimensional gates. 220 00:09:00,833 --> 00:09:06,458 They postulated that energy, frequency, vibration 221 00:09:06,542 --> 00:09:08,083 were magical. 222 00:09:08,167 --> 00:09:10,500 If you knew how to use them, you could do anything. 223 00:09:10,583 --> 00:09:13,083 We knew that they had the ability 224 00:09:13,208 --> 00:09:17,875 to utilize these things, these dimensional gates and portals. 225 00:09:17,958 --> 00:09:20,375 I mean, these are things that we can potentially measure. 226 00:09:20,458 --> 00:09:21,708 We should take some measurements. 227 00:09:21,792 --> 00:09:23,042 Yeah. 228 00:09:23,167 --> 00:09:24,750 NARRATOR: In order to test for the presence of any 229 00:09:24,833 --> 00:09:27,792 naturally occurring energy, frequency, or vibration 230 00:09:27,875 --> 00:09:29,792 in the canyon, Andy and Paul will 231 00:09:29,875 --> 00:09:33,167 take readings with their handheld instruments. 232 00:09:33,292 --> 00:09:34,500 I'm cool. 233 00:09:34,583 --> 00:09:35,667 I'm pulling out our trifield meter 234 00:09:35,750 --> 00:09:36,667 right now to look at magnetic energy. 235 00:09:38,625 --> 00:09:40,750 If we're taking electromagnetic readings anywhere else 236 00:09:40,833 --> 00:09:42,792 in the United states, we expect to see somewhere 237 00:09:42,917 --> 00:09:44,667 between 0.2 and 0.4 milligauss. 238 00:09:44,750 --> 00:09:46,375 Sounds pretty quiet so far. 239 00:09:46,458 --> 00:09:48,333 Very quiet. 240 00:09:48,333 --> 00:09:49,458 Like, impossibly quiet. 241 00:09:49,542 --> 00:09:50,333 Watch. 242 00:09:50,417 --> 00:09:51,292 PAUL: Wow. 243 00:09:51,375 --> 00:09:52,500 We've never seen that. 244 00:09:52,583 --> 00:09:54,750 So this is saying, Jon, that there 245 00:09:54,833 --> 00:09:58,583 is no measurable electromagnetic field here. 246 00:09:58,667 --> 00:10:00,375 0.0 milligauss. 247 00:10:00,458 --> 00:10:02,083 Which is unusual in itself. 248 00:10:02,167 --> 00:10:03,125 Absolutely. 249 00:10:03,208 --> 00:10:04,542 Yeah, this is not normal. 250 00:10:10,708 --> 00:10:12,208 If you're going to have a portal, 251 00:10:12,208 --> 00:10:16,625 there must be intense energy at that site. 252 00:10:16,750 --> 00:10:19,833 Energy and frequency and vibration. 253 00:10:19,958 --> 00:10:23,042 NARRATOR: Andy and Paul are with Navajo ranger Jon Dover, 254 00:10:23,125 --> 00:10:26,458 studying the petroglyph covered walls within the canyon 255 00:10:26,458 --> 00:10:28,042 at Rock Art Ranch. 256 00:10:28,125 --> 00:10:31,708 Jon suggests that energy, frequency, and vibration are 257 00:10:31,792 --> 00:10:34,333 needed for a portal to open. 258 00:10:34,417 --> 00:10:36,583 So they're using a spectrum analyzer 259 00:10:36,667 --> 00:10:39,792 to check for the presence of radio frequencies. 260 00:10:39,875 --> 00:10:41,500 Let's take a look at the radio spectrum. 261 00:10:41,625 --> 00:10:43,833 OK, great. 262 00:10:43,958 --> 00:10:45,708 Oh, look at that, Andy. 263 00:10:45,833 --> 00:10:47,042 What'd you just find? 264 00:10:47,042 --> 00:10:48,125 1.6. 265 00:10:48,208 --> 00:10:49,542 1.609? 266 00:10:49,625 --> 00:10:52,625 PAUL: Yep, and it's been steady there. 267 00:10:52,708 --> 00:10:54,500 1.6 gigahertz is a frequency that's 268 00:10:54,542 --> 00:10:57,667 reserved for space to Earth and Earth to space communication. 269 00:10:57,750 --> 00:10:59,667 And here we are seeing it next to petroglyphs that 270 00:10:59,750 --> 00:11:01,625 are potentially showing a depiction 271 00:11:01,708 --> 00:11:03,708 of interdimensional phenomenon. 272 00:11:03,708 --> 00:11:05,542 When you're collecting this data on its own, 273 00:11:05,667 --> 00:11:06,833 it looks kind of disparate and you 274 00:11:06,917 --> 00:11:08,458 don't know how it all connects. 275 00:11:08,583 --> 00:11:10,167 Until Jon tells us that there's three elements 276 00:11:10,250 --> 00:11:12,667 tied to some sort of interdimensional portal activity 277 00:11:12,708 --> 00:11:14,000 within Native American lore. 278 00:11:14,083 --> 00:11:17,000 There's frequency, energy, and vibration. 279 00:11:17,083 --> 00:11:19,292 And what we're seeing here with 1.6 gigahertz 280 00:11:19,292 --> 00:11:22,833 is a clear, strong frequency. 281 00:11:22,917 --> 00:11:25,750 PAUL: I'm really curious to see what else this little canyon has 282 00:11:25,833 --> 00:11:26,833 in store for us. 283 00:11:26,958 --> 00:11:28,167 JON: Oh, there's lots more. 284 00:11:30,458 --> 00:11:32,708 Oh, wow. 285 00:11:32,708 --> 00:11:33,875 Look at that. 286 00:11:33,958 --> 00:11:34,875 ANDY: Look at those. 287 00:11:38,917 --> 00:11:43,667 There are so many images here that are clearly humans. 288 00:11:43,750 --> 00:11:45,750 But what are those? 289 00:11:45,833 --> 00:11:47,333 Those huge creatures. 290 00:11:47,417 --> 00:11:50,625 Huge creatures with-- it looks like spikes or plates 291 00:11:50,708 --> 00:11:51,458 on their back. 292 00:11:51,542 --> 00:11:53,083 Right. 293 00:11:53,208 --> 00:11:54,667 Honestly, I was thinking they look like dinosaurs. 294 00:11:54,708 --> 00:11:56,833 That's the same thing that went through my mind. 295 00:11:56,958 --> 00:12:00,167 And then associated right there with that spiral shape. 296 00:12:00,250 --> 00:12:04,792 Many Native tribes have creation stories where 297 00:12:04,875 --> 00:12:06,958 they came from somewhere else. 298 00:12:06,958 --> 00:12:08,833 In the case of the Navajo, they came 299 00:12:08,917 --> 00:12:11,500 through several different worlds that they describe. 300 00:12:11,542 --> 00:12:16,833 A world of insects, a world of giants, a water world, you know. 301 00:12:16,917 --> 00:12:18,917 When they talk about these, they say 302 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,542 that there was something that appeared in the sky, a hole 303 00:12:22,667 --> 00:12:23,708 in the sky. 304 00:12:23,708 --> 00:12:26,000 And they climbed through that. 305 00:12:26,125 --> 00:12:28,667 You know, they're naturally occurring portals 306 00:12:28,750 --> 00:12:31,167 that are just opening and closing whenever 307 00:12:31,292 --> 00:12:33,417 they get enough energy. 308 00:12:33,500 --> 00:12:37,375 What's to prevent other things from coming through? 309 00:12:37,375 --> 00:12:39,125 ANDY: So interesting thing. 310 00:12:39,208 --> 00:12:41,500 I feel like we should see what we can measure at this location. 311 00:12:41,542 --> 00:12:43,167 PAUL: Sure, let's do it. ANDY: Yeah. 312 00:12:43,292 --> 00:12:44,625 I want to try the FLIR. 313 00:12:44,708 --> 00:12:46,375 Just get a thermal read on this space. 314 00:12:46,458 --> 00:12:48,125 Let's do it. 315 00:12:48,125 --> 00:12:51,000 NARRATOR: The FLIR T1030 is an exceptionally sensitive 316 00:12:51,083 --> 00:12:53,833 high definition imaging camera that measures 317 00:12:53,917 --> 00:12:56,083 the heat signatures of objects. 318 00:12:56,167 --> 00:13:00,833 The hotter the object, the whiter it will appear. 319 00:13:00,875 --> 00:13:02,292 What I'm thinking, Andy, is I'm 320 00:13:02,375 --> 00:13:04,000 curious to see if there's any difference 321 00:13:04,083 --> 00:13:08,125 between the glyphs themselves and the rest of the face. 322 00:13:11,208 --> 00:13:15,000 Can you-- can you aim right into that crevice right there? 323 00:13:15,042 --> 00:13:16,292 Do you see the dark spot? 324 00:13:16,375 --> 00:13:17,417 PAUL: OK. 325 00:13:17,417 --> 00:13:19,208 ANDY: You see what I'm seeing? 326 00:13:19,292 --> 00:13:21,458 PAUL: The heat that's sort of trapped in that corner? 327 00:13:21,542 --> 00:13:22,958 ANDY: Why would there be-- 328 00:13:23,042 --> 00:13:24,292 PAUL: Seems like it should be cold in there. 329 00:13:24,375 --> 00:13:26,750 ANDY: Yeah. 330 00:13:26,875 --> 00:13:28,292 Here, let me come around where you are. 331 00:13:28,375 --> 00:13:29,583 Yeah. 332 00:13:29,667 --> 00:13:30,667 Yeah, look at that. 333 00:13:30,708 --> 00:13:32,000 This is really interesting. 334 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,458 It's shaded from the top. 335 00:13:33,542 --> 00:13:34,625 Yep. 336 00:13:34,708 --> 00:13:36,000 Much warmer in there. 337 00:13:36,083 --> 00:13:37,375 ANDY: All the way up and down. 338 00:13:37,458 --> 00:13:38,917 PAUL: Yeah. 339 00:13:39,042 --> 00:13:41,542 The carvings here right next to this heat signature 340 00:13:41,625 --> 00:13:45,917 are the spirals that signify some kind of portal. 341 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,833 I mean, it's 64, 65 degrees there. 342 00:13:48,917 --> 00:13:53,750 And the exposed face over here is much cooler. 343 00:13:53,833 --> 00:13:56,917 The most shaded is the hottest. 344 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,500 This face has been in the shade all day. 345 00:13:59,542 --> 00:14:00,833 ANDY: Yeah. 346 00:14:00,917 --> 00:14:03,042 It wouldn't surprise me if this was 347 00:14:03,125 --> 00:14:07,000 an entry point of some kind. 348 00:14:07,083 --> 00:14:12,042 It could be an entry point, if we knew how to open it. 349 00:14:12,125 --> 00:14:14,792 We've got the portal correlating 350 00:14:14,875 --> 00:14:17,667 very closely with some kind of energy anomaly. 351 00:14:17,708 --> 00:14:19,792 You've got thermal energy. 352 00:14:19,875 --> 00:14:22,833 There's absolutely thermal energy back there. 353 00:14:22,917 --> 00:14:24,625 And when you layer that in with the fact 354 00:14:24,708 --> 00:14:27,833 that we're seeing a very strong signal here at 1.6 gigahertz, 355 00:14:27,958 --> 00:14:30,917 we have a giant energy anomaly here. 356 00:14:31,042 --> 00:14:32,917 Is it unique or are there others like it? 357 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:34,542 We know there are other sites. 358 00:14:34,625 --> 00:14:36,500 I think that's the question we've got to ask going forward. 359 00:14:36,542 --> 00:14:38,000 Yeah. 360 00:14:38,083 --> 00:14:38,917 Let's go collect some more data and find out. 361 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,500 Thanks, Jon. 362 00:14:40,583 --> 00:14:43,375 NARRATOR: After discovering strange energy and frequency 363 00:14:43,500 --> 00:14:46,958 readings in the canyon, the next stop in their investigation 364 00:14:47,042 --> 00:14:50,042 is a partially excavated sacred dwelling site 365 00:14:50,125 --> 00:14:53,000 a couple miles away, where the ancient Native American 366 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,833 tribes lived. 367 00:14:55,917 --> 00:14:57,417 What we're going to look at here 368 00:14:57,500 --> 00:15:01,000 is a ruined site with some rune blocks in it 369 00:15:01,083 --> 00:15:05,750 that has been professionally excavated by archaeologists. 370 00:15:05,833 --> 00:15:08,917 They would have lived up here, but the canyon would have been 371 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,708 a source of water and it would have 372 00:15:10,833 --> 00:15:15,000 been where they had different ceremonies and things going on. 373 00:15:15,083 --> 00:15:16,375 I think the big question here is, 374 00:15:16,500 --> 00:15:18,250 you know, these two sites are obviously 375 00:15:18,333 --> 00:15:22,042 connected by the people and the time that they spent here. 376 00:15:22,125 --> 00:15:25,208 We're curious about how they're connected energetically. 377 00:15:25,208 --> 00:15:28,167 Well, there's definitely energy here. 378 00:15:28,208 --> 00:15:31,000 Traditionally, in Navajo culture, 379 00:15:31,083 --> 00:15:34,333 you do not go around these places. 380 00:15:34,375 --> 00:15:37,167 Because the spirits of the dead are here. 381 00:15:41,167 --> 00:15:41,833 Wow. 382 00:15:41,833 --> 00:15:43,500 Look at this. 383 00:15:43,542 --> 00:15:44,667 Wow. 384 00:15:44,750 --> 00:15:46,667 Just instant time travel. 385 00:15:46,750 --> 00:15:49,000 This is a window back in time. 386 00:15:49,083 --> 00:15:51,750 JON: Each room would have held a family. 387 00:15:51,833 --> 00:15:57,458 This area, I can feel the energy all through my body. 388 00:15:57,542 --> 00:15:59,833 PAUL: Let's take some measurements here. 389 00:15:59,917 --> 00:16:03,917 NARRATOR: Andy and Paul use the radio spectrum analyzer to test 390 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,000 for the 1.6 gigahertz frequency that 391 00:16:07,083 --> 00:16:09,292 was present at the petroglyphs. 392 00:16:09,375 --> 00:16:10,417 Look at that. 393 00:16:10,500 --> 00:16:12,750 1.609487. 394 00:16:12,833 --> 00:16:15,292 That's the same signal that we were seeing in the canyon. 395 00:16:15,375 --> 00:16:16,875 Yep. 396 00:16:16,958 --> 00:16:18,417 What we've been able to do is confirm for sure 397 00:16:18,500 --> 00:16:20,917 that in this location, we have two of the three elements 398 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:22,333 that you've been talking about. 399 00:16:22,417 --> 00:16:23,875 We have energy. 400 00:16:23,958 --> 00:16:25,500 We have thermal energy in the canyon. 401 00:16:25,542 --> 00:16:26,000 We have frequency. 402 00:16:26,042 --> 00:16:27,500 PAUL: Right. 403 00:16:27,583 --> 00:16:29,792 This really clear 1.6 gigahertz frequency. 404 00:16:29,792 --> 00:16:31,167 So all that's missing is vibration. 405 00:16:31,250 --> 00:16:33,000 If we can get the three elements together, 406 00:16:33,083 --> 00:16:35,833 we have, I mean, the opportunity to potentially unlock 407 00:16:35,917 --> 00:16:37,250 whatever the ancients saw here. 408 00:16:37,375 --> 00:16:38,500 Yeah. 409 00:16:38,500 --> 00:16:39,917 The third point of this triangle, this triad 410 00:16:40,042 --> 00:16:41,375 of energies. 411 00:16:41,458 --> 00:16:44,042 I think we need to bring in a traditional singing 412 00:16:44,125 --> 00:16:46,292 group with a drum. 413 00:16:46,375 --> 00:16:49,375 NARRATOR: In 2023, a Native American drumming group 414 00:16:49,458 --> 00:16:52,083 performed at Skinwalker Ranch, which 415 00:16:52,208 --> 00:16:54,333 resulted in dramatic temperature changes, 416 00:16:54,417 --> 00:16:56,417 focused on the stone circle. 417 00:16:56,542 --> 00:16:59,167 TRAVIS: The stone circle is lit up like a Christmas tree. 418 00:16:59,250 --> 00:17:01,417 NARRATOR: Which is thought to be a sacred place 419 00:17:01,542 --> 00:17:05,500 for the ancient people and potentially a portal. 420 00:17:05,583 --> 00:17:10,875 If this is the location for a portal, all we need to do 421 00:17:10,958 --> 00:17:12,667 is find a way to tap into it. 422 00:17:12,750 --> 00:17:16,167 The fact that we have this thermal energy, the radio 423 00:17:16,292 --> 00:17:19,000 frequency, now the question is, can we somehow 424 00:17:19,167 --> 00:17:21,458 tap into this vibrational question 425 00:17:21,458 --> 00:17:23,500 here that Jon has been telling us about? 426 00:17:23,583 --> 00:17:26,000 We're going to do a drum ceremony. 427 00:17:26,125 --> 00:17:27,375 Who knows what could happen? 428 00:17:27,500 --> 00:17:29,375 We could trigger our own thermal anomaly. 429 00:17:29,458 --> 00:17:31,250 We could trigger our own orb. 430 00:17:31,375 --> 00:17:32,875 Anything can happen out here. 431 00:17:32,958 --> 00:17:34,667 This place is wide open for us. 432 00:17:48,458 --> 00:17:50,333 Art, it is so good to have you back, man. 433 00:17:50,375 --> 00:17:52,333 I know that we are in good hands with you 434 00:17:52,458 --> 00:17:54,333 and Jon on the case with us again. 435 00:17:54,417 --> 00:17:55,125 Thank you. 436 00:17:55,125 --> 00:17:56,792 Thank you for having us. 437 00:17:56,875 --> 00:18:00,833 We agreed to this so that we can help propel the scientific value 438 00:18:00,917 --> 00:18:03,250 as well as the spiritual value that may 439 00:18:03,333 --> 00:18:05,083 arise out of this experience. 440 00:18:05,167 --> 00:18:06,833 NARRATOR: For the first experiment, 441 00:18:06,833 --> 00:18:11,542 Jon Dover has called upon Navajo musician Alex Adeki and medicine 442 00:18:11,667 --> 00:18:14,167 man Art Hardy, who helped guide the team 443 00:18:14,250 --> 00:18:16,917 last year at Navajo Nation. 444 00:18:17,042 --> 00:18:18,000 Can you hear this, Andy? 445 00:18:18,083 --> 00:18:18,792 Come here. 446 00:18:24,625 --> 00:18:26,208 They're here. 447 00:18:26,292 --> 00:18:28,875 I don't know how to process through the idea 448 00:18:28,958 --> 00:18:29,708 that they are here. 449 00:18:29,792 --> 00:18:30,500 I don't-- 450 00:18:30,583 --> 00:18:32,292 Shh. 451 00:18:32,375 --> 00:18:34,542 (WHISPERS) Don't process, just listen. 452 00:18:34,625 --> 00:18:38,083 NARRATOR: The team will perform a traditional drum ceremony just 453 00:18:38,167 --> 00:18:41,625 outside a sacred dwelling site at Rock Art Ranch. 454 00:18:41,625 --> 00:18:45,292 Jon believes that a combination of energy, frequency, and 455 00:18:45,375 --> 00:18:48,708 vibration can open up a portal. 456 00:18:48,875 --> 00:18:53,417 And the team has found energy and frequency at the site. 457 00:18:53,417 --> 00:18:57,625 So the plan is to add sound vibration into the environment 458 00:18:57,750 --> 00:19:00,333 to test this theory. 459 00:19:00,375 --> 00:19:03,167 So first and foremost, the vibrational frequencies 460 00:19:03,292 --> 00:19:06,208 is actually a key part of what spirituality 461 00:19:06,333 --> 00:19:08,417 is within the Native American community. 462 00:19:08,542 --> 00:19:12,000 There is phenomenon that happens within the ceremonies. 463 00:19:12,083 --> 00:19:13,042 We do see things. 464 00:19:13,125 --> 00:19:14,750 We do hear things. 465 00:19:14,875 --> 00:19:17,917 And I'm pretty sure a lot of the Native American community 466 00:19:18,042 --> 00:19:19,542 can attest to that. 467 00:19:19,542 --> 00:19:21,083 I couldn't think of a better way 468 00:19:21,083 --> 00:19:22,542 to let you guys start setting up. 469 00:19:22,542 --> 00:19:23,750 Great. Sounds good, Andy. 470 00:19:23,833 --> 00:19:24,583 Thank you, Art. 471 00:19:24,708 --> 00:19:25,375 Thank you, guys. 472 00:19:28,708 --> 00:19:30,875 NARRATOR: Given the thermal anomalies that resulted 473 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,375 from the blazing bear drum ceremony performed at Skinwalker 474 00:19:34,458 --> 00:19:37,667 Ranch in 2023, Andy and Paul have 475 00:19:37,667 --> 00:19:41,500 set up a FLIR thermal camera focused above the ceremony. 476 00:19:41,625 --> 00:19:45,833 They've also set up two AI powered UFODAPs to capture 477 00:19:45,875 --> 00:19:47,500 any activity above them. 478 00:19:47,625 --> 00:19:51,333 This system of two cameras puts non-stop eyes on the sky 479 00:19:51,375 --> 00:19:54,208 and can track objects to identify if it's captured 480 00:19:54,208 --> 00:19:56,625 a plane, satellite, or star. 481 00:19:56,708 --> 00:20:01,167 Or if it's locked on to an unknown aerial phenomenon. 482 00:20:13,625 --> 00:20:16,833 [rattling] 483 00:20:16,833 --> 00:20:17,667 I just got the chills. 484 00:20:28,125 --> 00:20:31,583 [non-english singing] 485 00:20:41,708 --> 00:20:43,458 [beeps] 486 00:20:44,708 --> 00:20:45,333 Whoa. 487 00:20:45,458 --> 00:20:46,875 That was interesting. 488 00:20:46,958 --> 00:20:48,250 What was-- that was fast. 489 00:20:48,333 --> 00:20:49,875 Let me see if I can pull up that file real quick. 490 00:20:53,042 --> 00:20:54,083 Right there. 491 00:20:54,167 --> 00:20:55,167 You see it? - Do it again. 492 00:20:55,208 --> 00:20:56,833 Yep. Flying across the screen. 493 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,083 You can see the wings flapping. 494 00:20:58,208 --> 00:20:59,000 I think that's a bat. 495 00:20:59,042 --> 00:21:00,500 Yeah. 496 00:21:00,583 --> 00:21:01,250 OK. 497 00:21:01,333 --> 00:21:02,083 Well, false positives. 498 00:21:02,167 --> 00:21:03,000 Yep. 499 00:21:03,042 --> 00:21:03,750 It's working. 500 00:21:11,917 --> 00:21:13,292 Check this out, man. 501 00:21:13,375 --> 00:21:15,458 The air temperature has been strange above them. 502 00:21:15,542 --> 00:21:17,958 We were up above 33, 34. 503 00:21:18,042 --> 00:21:21,208 We swung down to 28, 27. 504 00:21:21,333 --> 00:21:23,042 Our target is 10 feet above their heads. 505 00:21:23,125 --> 00:21:23,833 It's not the fire. 506 00:21:29,750 --> 00:21:31,250 Oh, look at this, Paul. Look at this. 507 00:21:31,333 --> 00:21:32,875 - Whoa, whoa. - Look at that. 508 00:21:32,958 --> 00:21:34,000 PAUL: Dropped out of nowhere. 509 00:21:34,042 --> 00:21:35,250 ANDY: Yeah. 510 00:21:35,333 --> 00:21:38,125 It went down as low as 24 degrees. 511 00:21:38,208 --> 00:21:39,583 Something is happening. 512 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,250 23. 513 00:21:47,333 --> 00:21:49,250 The music just stopped. 514 00:21:49,333 --> 00:21:50,000 Look at this. 515 00:21:50,083 --> 00:21:52,167 Look at this. 516 00:21:52,250 --> 00:21:54,000 All they did was stop singing. 517 00:21:54,042 --> 00:21:56,042 In the same area above. 518 00:21:56,125 --> 00:21:57,375 That is so weird. 519 00:21:57,458 --> 00:21:59,083 The music just ended. 520 00:21:59,167 --> 00:22:01,000 PAUL: I was going to say, it kind of went all over the place 521 00:22:01,042 --> 00:22:02,625 when the music ended. 522 00:22:02,708 --> 00:22:05,333 ANDY: We've gone up five degrees since the music stopped. 523 00:22:05,417 --> 00:22:06,500 On a cold night. 524 00:22:06,583 --> 00:22:08,708 PAUL: Just went up to 28. 525 00:22:08,708 --> 00:22:11,917 [rattling] 526 00:22:13,958 --> 00:22:16,375 [non-english singing] 527 00:22:21,375 --> 00:22:23,958 Andy, Andy, we're down to 19. 528 00:22:24,042 --> 00:22:25,000 When they started up again? 529 00:22:25,083 --> 00:22:25,917 Yep. 530 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,750 18. 531 00:22:27,875 --> 00:22:29,500 17. 532 00:22:29,500 --> 00:22:30,792 What is happening, man? 533 00:22:30,875 --> 00:22:31,583 16. 534 00:22:33,708 --> 00:22:35,625 15. 535 00:22:35,708 --> 00:22:36,458 Dude. 536 00:22:41,542 --> 00:22:43,667 ANDY: We just dropped another seven degrees. 537 00:22:43,750 --> 00:22:44,583 Wow. 538 00:22:44,708 --> 00:22:46,292 It went down seven degrees in-- 539 00:22:46,375 --> 00:22:47,875 like that. 540 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,000 And you can hear the difference in the voice, too. 541 00:22:52,875 --> 00:22:54,333 Did they change singers? 542 00:22:54,458 --> 00:22:56,125 They changed singers. 543 00:22:56,208 --> 00:22:57,083 That's Art. 544 00:22:57,167 --> 00:22:58,667 PAUL: Is that Art now? 545 00:22:58,708 --> 00:22:59,333 Wow. 546 00:22:59,417 --> 00:23:02,708 Look, it's at 13. 547 00:23:02,708 --> 00:23:05,833 We're actually seeing that the singer, the difference 548 00:23:05,917 --> 00:23:08,250 in their intensity and the difference in their voice itself 549 00:23:08,333 --> 00:23:09,542 is changing things. 550 00:23:09,708 --> 00:23:11,750 It's like we hit a new threshold somehow. 551 00:23:11,833 --> 00:23:13,833 Wow. 552 00:23:13,875 --> 00:23:15,125 How interesting, man. 553 00:23:18,042 --> 00:23:20,000 Look at that. 554 00:23:20,042 --> 00:23:21,083 It's going back. 555 00:23:21,167 --> 00:23:24,000 It just-- soon as he stopped. 556 00:23:24,042 --> 00:23:29,625 We've gone up in temperature since the music stopped. 557 00:23:29,708 --> 00:23:31,000 That was a powerful hit. 558 00:23:31,083 --> 00:23:34,042 Did you see that just there? 559 00:23:34,167 --> 00:23:35,542 That's fast. 560 00:23:35,625 --> 00:23:36,625 What is that, though? 561 00:23:39,542 --> 00:23:40,375 You see that? 562 00:23:40,458 --> 00:23:42,208 PAUL: It's got a trail. 563 00:23:42,333 --> 00:23:45,000 Look right there. 564 00:23:45,042 --> 00:23:48,083 Did those look like two distinct balls of light in a row? 565 00:23:48,167 --> 00:23:50,667 I'm going to pull up a clean file with no data on it. 566 00:23:50,750 --> 00:23:51,542 OK. 567 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,667 I don't know what that is. 568 00:23:56,750 --> 00:23:58,458 PAUL: It also-- did you see the movement? 569 00:23:58,583 --> 00:24:00,500 ANDY: I was going to say there's movement there. 570 00:24:00,583 --> 00:24:03,583 That kind of movement and speed change. 571 00:24:03,667 --> 00:24:06,333 PAUL: Yeah, I don't I don't know what that is. 572 00:24:06,417 --> 00:24:08,708 It changes velocity completely. 573 00:24:08,708 --> 00:24:10,000 Right there, too. PAUL: Yep. 574 00:24:10,042 --> 00:24:11,625 ANDY: I didn't even see that little curve. 575 00:24:11,708 --> 00:24:13,417 I saw the one farther down, but it-- 576 00:24:13,500 --> 00:24:14,250 PAUL: You see that? 577 00:24:14,375 --> 00:24:15,333 Yeah. 578 00:24:15,417 --> 00:24:16,833 It changes direction twice. 579 00:24:16,958 --> 00:24:18,042 That's wild. 580 00:24:18,125 --> 00:24:19,792 Yeah. 581 00:24:19,875 --> 00:24:23,000 We just saw some kind of bird or flapping insect before. 582 00:24:23,042 --> 00:24:24,083 It's neither of those. 583 00:24:24,167 --> 00:24:25,417 Correct. 584 00:24:25,500 --> 00:24:26,500 And it's not moving in a straight line. 585 00:24:26,583 --> 00:24:27,833 I mean, it's a UAP. 586 00:24:27,833 --> 00:24:28,375 Yeah. 587 00:24:28,500 --> 00:24:30,208 It's a UAP. 588 00:24:30,208 --> 00:24:32,417 And look where we are and think about what we just did. 589 00:24:32,542 --> 00:24:36,000 This is exactly what Jon was talking about. 590 00:24:36,125 --> 00:24:37,542 We're getting thermal anomalies. 591 00:24:37,542 --> 00:24:39,875 We're getting UAP hits on the UFODAP. 592 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,792 During this ceremony where we brought in that one 593 00:24:42,875 --> 00:24:44,708 missing piece, the vibration. 594 00:24:44,833 --> 00:24:46,917 Two times now, they've stopped singing. 595 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:51,458 And in both instances, the ambient temperature went up. 596 00:24:51,542 --> 00:24:53,000 On a cold night. PAUL: Right 597 00:24:53,083 --> 00:24:53,833 That's crazy. 598 00:24:53,875 --> 00:24:54,958 Oh yeah, no. 599 00:24:55,042 --> 00:24:56,708 Everything should just be cooling down. 600 00:24:56,792 --> 00:24:58,542 There should be none of these fluctuations. 601 00:24:58,625 --> 00:24:59,917 And to have it correlate twice. 602 00:25:00,042 --> 00:25:01,292 Right. 603 00:25:01,375 --> 00:25:02,583 What would make that temperature change? 604 00:25:14,083 --> 00:25:15,917 ANDY: What an awesome night. 605 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,167 I know we got some great data, but I'm still sort of, 606 00:25:18,250 --> 00:25:20,875 you know, reverberating just from the moment itself. 607 00:25:20,958 --> 00:25:22,625 It was absolutely impressive to see. 608 00:25:22,708 --> 00:25:24,750 It was a privilege to be part of it all. 609 00:25:24,833 --> 00:25:27,833 Not only did we see a change in thermal activity 610 00:25:27,875 --> 00:25:30,458 based on the change in voice and the change in song, 611 00:25:30,542 --> 00:25:32,292 but we also had multiple UAP sightings 612 00:25:32,417 --> 00:25:33,375 over the course of the night. 613 00:25:33,458 --> 00:25:34,917 PAUL: Right. 614 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,833 Now, there was so much going on that we actually 615 00:25:36,875 --> 00:25:38,333 didn't have the ability to capture 616 00:25:38,417 --> 00:25:39,958 it all with our own two eyes. 617 00:25:40,042 --> 00:25:41,750 So the production team actually went through and scrubbed 618 00:25:41,833 --> 00:25:44,125 all of the footage to find the most significant anomalies 619 00:25:44,208 --> 00:25:45,167 captured on the UFODAP. 620 00:25:45,250 --> 00:25:46,000 Perfect. 621 00:25:48,208 --> 00:25:50,792 Now, this was the one that we saw in real time. 622 00:25:50,875 --> 00:25:52,167 No flapping activity. 623 00:25:52,250 --> 00:25:53,833 It changes speed right there in the middle. 624 00:25:53,917 --> 00:25:54,750 Right. 625 00:25:54,833 --> 00:25:55,958 Yeah, now that one is different. 626 00:25:56,042 --> 00:25:57,042 No question. 627 00:25:57,125 --> 00:25:59,333 Different motion, different speed. 628 00:25:59,375 --> 00:26:00,708 That accelerating curve. 629 00:26:00,708 --> 00:26:01,375 Yep. 630 00:26:01,458 --> 00:26:02,833 Yeah, exactly right. 631 00:26:02,917 --> 00:26:04,833 And when you hear people talk about a cigar shape, 632 00:26:04,875 --> 00:26:07,167 this is a cigar shape flying through the sky. 633 00:26:07,208 --> 00:26:08,125 That's right. 634 00:26:08,208 --> 00:26:11,125 Now here's a new one. 635 00:26:11,208 --> 00:26:12,417 Whoa! - Whoa. 636 00:26:12,417 --> 00:26:13,125 Whoa. - Did you see that? 637 00:26:13,208 --> 00:26:14,542 Yeah, yeah. 638 00:26:14,625 --> 00:26:16,042 I mean, it just changed direction right there. 639 00:26:16,167 --> 00:26:19,417 Look at how intense that color is, too. 640 00:26:19,500 --> 00:26:22,917 But what's even more intense is the change of direction. 641 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,792 That turn at that velocity is just unimaginable. 642 00:26:26,875 --> 00:26:28,500 It's more than a 90 degree turn. 643 00:26:28,500 --> 00:26:29,875 Yeah. It turns back on itself. 644 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:30,792 120 degree turn. 645 00:26:30,875 --> 00:26:31,542 Yeah. 646 00:26:31,667 --> 00:26:32,833 That's truly strange. 647 00:26:32,958 --> 00:26:34,750 I don't know what that thing is. 648 00:26:34,833 --> 00:26:37,667 There's no pilot on Earth that could handle a turn like that. 649 00:26:37,708 --> 00:26:40,208 Whatever that is, that's an object that somehow seems 650 00:26:40,208 --> 00:26:41,500 to just slice through the air. 651 00:26:41,625 --> 00:26:42,792 Right. 652 00:26:42,875 --> 00:26:45,000 And the question again is, is this all 653 00:26:45,125 --> 00:26:46,625 connected to the ritual? 654 00:26:46,708 --> 00:26:48,583 Would we have observed them otherwise? 655 00:26:48,667 --> 00:26:50,958 We did the ceremony at the settlement, right. 656 00:26:51,042 --> 00:26:54,583 I want to know what effect that might have in the canyon. 657 00:26:54,708 --> 00:26:57,042 That's where the petroglyphs, you know, 658 00:26:57,125 --> 00:27:00,208 record the experiences of these people. 659 00:27:00,208 --> 00:27:03,125 What they witnessed, experienced, and maybe brought 660 00:27:03,208 --> 00:27:04,792 into being in that space. 661 00:27:04,875 --> 00:27:06,458 And then there seems to be potentially 662 00:27:06,542 --> 00:27:09,500 some kind of correlation between the walls that have these energy 663 00:27:09,625 --> 00:27:12,875 seams and that swirling petroglyph 664 00:27:12,958 --> 00:27:14,708 that might indicate a portal. 665 00:27:14,833 --> 00:27:17,583 Yeah, I think we should have Art do a ceremony in the canyon 666 00:27:17,667 --> 00:27:19,083 if he's willing. 667 00:27:19,167 --> 00:27:20,750 Jon talks about feeling an energy in that canyon. 668 00:27:20,833 --> 00:27:22,333 I mean, I can't help but wonder if we're 669 00:27:22,375 --> 00:27:25,000 on the verge of potentially opening a Pandora's box. 670 00:27:37,292 --> 00:27:39,917 NARRATOR: Now that they've documented thermal anomalies 671 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,083 and UAP sightings during the drum ceremony 672 00:27:43,083 --> 00:27:45,458 outside the ancient dwelling site, 673 00:27:45,542 --> 00:27:49,833 Andy and Paul had backed down into the canyon with Jon and Art 674 00:27:49,875 --> 00:27:52,583 to see if the ceremony around the petroglyph 675 00:27:52,667 --> 00:27:56,583 covered walls will produce similar results. 676 00:27:56,667 --> 00:27:59,000 Art will perform an ancient medicine man 677 00:27:59,042 --> 00:28:02,167 ceremony, where he will invoke sacred prayers 678 00:28:02,250 --> 00:28:05,375 designed to open a portal. 679 00:28:05,458 --> 00:28:07,000 We definitely can feel the heaviness 680 00:28:07,083 --> 00:28:10,500 within the canyon, and as far as what may have happened 681 00:28:10,625 --> 00:28:13,500 here with the ancestors. 682 00:28:13,583 --> 00:28:16,417 This corner is just filled with-- 683 00:28:16,500 --> 00:28:19,500 look, there's the spiral that we've seen so many times. 684 00:28:19,583 --> 00:28:20,833 ANDY: And here, too. 685 00:28:20,875 --> 00:28:21,625 I mean, the spirals are everywhere-- 686 00:28:21,708 --> 00:28:22,958 PAUL: Portal or vortex. 687 00:28:23,042 --> 00:28:24,625 The spirals are everywhere in this section. 688 00:28:24,708 --> 00:28:26,583 I mean, look, there's multiple of them up here. 689 00:28:26,667 --> 00:28:27,750 There's etchings here. 690 00:28:27,833 --> 00:28:28,708 And they're old, Paul. 691 00:28:28,792 --> 00:28:30,125 Look how faded they are. 692 00:28:30,208 --> 00:28:31,792 I mean, what an incredible place to set 693 00:28:31,875 --> 00:28:33,500 up this experiment for tonight. 694 00:28:33,583 --> 00:28:35,042 What I'm going to be doing is I'm 695 00:28:35,125 --> 00:28:38,083 actually praying to our gods. 696 00:28:38,208 --> 00:28:40,875 The terminology that comes with it is very sacred. 697 00:28:40,958 --> 00:28:43,833 A lot of that's given from medicine man to medicine man. 698 00:28:43,833 --> 00:28:47,542 So unfortunately, I can't let those names be on camera. 699 00:28:47,625 --> 00:28:49,500 It's very sensitive in nature. 700 00:28:49,583 --> 00:28:51,708 It's very sensitive to the Native American community, 701 00:28:51,792 --> 00:28:53,250 my family, et cetera. 702 00:28:53,333 --> 00:28:58,042 So in that sense, I'd rather you just see and just 703 00:28:58,167 --> 00:29:01,250 capture anything with your equipment that you can 704 00:29:01,250 --> 00:29:03,167 while I'm performing this ceremony. 705 00:29:03,208 --> 00:29:04,625 OK. 706 00:29:04,708 --> 00:29:05,833 So but we want to make sure, you don't want 707 00:29:05,917 --> 00:29:07,500 us to record any audio of you. 708 00:29:07,625 --> 00:29:09,000 Correct. 709 00:29:09,125 --> 00:29:10,333 And that's only for a short period of time. 710 00:29:10,417 --> 00:29:11,417 PAUL: OK. 711 00:29:11,500 --> 00:29:13,583 And after that, we can resume. 712 00:29:13,667 --> 00:29:15,167 So my understanding, this is correct, 713 00:29:15,208 --> 00:29:19,000 that yesterday's experiments with the drum 714 00:29:19,083 --> 00:29:20,875 and the song, that was putting out 715 00:29:20,958 --> 00:29:22,500 vibration into the environment. 716 00:29:22,542 --> 00:29:23,792 Correct. 717 00:29:23,875 --> 00:29:25,125 Whereas today, the ceremony that you're 718 00:29:25,208 --> 00:29:27,208 going to be executing, essentially you 719 00:29:27,333 --> 00:29:29,167 become the center point of concentration. 720 00:29:29,208 --> 00:29:30,833 Am I understanding that correctly? 721 00:29:30,917 --> 00:29:32,833 Yeah, no, you're right on point with that, Andy. 722 00:29:32,917 --> 00:29:36,500 We want to concentrate all of the energy. 723 00:29:36,542 --> 00:29:39,958 We want to bring that here as much as we can, anyway. 724 00:29:40,042 --> 00:29:41,375 Let's get started. - Yeah. 725 00:29:41,375 --> 00:29:42,125 OK. 726 00:29:48,208 --> 00:29:49,917 All right. 727 00:29:50,042 --> 00:29:51,417 So we've got recording on this FLIR, recording on this FLIR. 728 00:29:51,500 --> 00:29:53,167 UFODAPs are live. 729 00:29:53,208 --> 00:29:55,667 Satellite tracker is live, and our spectrum analyzer is live. 730 00:29:55,750 --> 00:29:56,500 OK. 731 00:30:01,208 --> 00:30:03,833 (WHISPERS) Andy, right off the bat. 732 00:30:03,917 --> 00:30:04,667 Look at all that. 733 00:30:04,792 --> 00:30:05,750 Holy smokes. 734 00:30:11,833 --> 00:30:12,792 Look at this. 735 00:30:12,875 --> 00:30:15,917 The whole seam. 736 00:30:16,042 --> 00:30:18,500 Dude, that's just like the other areas in the canyon. 737 00:30:18,583 --> 00:30:21,708 NARRATOR: While Navajo medicine man Art Hardy performs 738 00:30:21,833 --> 00:30:24,833 an ancient ceremony designed to open a portal, 739 00:30:24,833 --> 00:30:27,250 Andy and Paul are once again seeing 740 00:30:27,333 --> 00:30:30,833 abnormally hot seams in the crevices of the petroglyph 741 00:30:30,917 --> 00:30:33,250 covered walls. 742 00:30:33,375 --> 00:30:34,417 ANDY: I mean, that's-- 743 00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:35,708 it's 10 o'clock at night, Paul. 744 00:30:35,792 --> 00:30:36,833 PAUL: Yeah. 745 00:30:36,875 --> 00:30:38,667 ANDY: How is this happening? 746 00:30:38,750 --> 00:30:40,792 There's heat from within these. 747 00:30:40,875 --> 00:30:43,250 We have another section of the canyon where there's 748 00:30:43,333 --> 00:30:45,625 this strong heat signature in the seam, 749 00:30:45,708 --> 00:30:48,167 and the actual petroglyphs around it 750 00:30:48,250 --> 00:30:50,667 are those spiraling etchings that we're 751 00:30:50,750 --> 00:30:52,542 coming to wonder if they have some connection 752 00:30:52,625 --> 00:30:53,833 to interdimensional portals. 753 00:30:53,958 --> 00:30:57,083 That maybe by itself isn't enough. 754 00:30:57,083 --> 00:31:01,500 But when combined, when focused with some sort of catalyst, 755 00:31:01,583 --> 00:31:02,542 who knows what's possible? 756 00:31:36,833 --> 00:31:40,208 [playing instrument] 757 00:31:43,708 --> 00:31:44,875 [beeps] 758 00:31:48,042 --> 00:31:49,333 That was interesting, too. 759 00:31:49,458 --> 00:31:50,125 That was a quick one. 760 00:31:50,208 --> 00:31:51,750 Let's see what that was. 761 00:31:51,750 --> 00:31:53,708 Seemed to be in the upper left corner. 762 00:31:53,708 --> 00:31:54,542 ANDY: Right there. You see it? 763 00:31:54,625 --> 00:31:55,750 I don't see a wing motion. 764 00:31:55,833 --> 00:31:57,833 I don't see a flapping. 765 00:31:57,917 --> 00:32:01,375 I don't know what that is. 766 00:32:01,375 --> 00:32:03,417 It looks like it comes out of nowhere, Paul. 767 00:32:03,417 --> 00:32:04,958 Watch. 768 00:32:05,083 --> 00:32:07,667 We've got a solid two seconds of empty space. 769 00:32:07,792 --> 00:32:10,167 And then watch right around here. 770 00:32:10,250 --> 00:32:11,333 OK. 771 00:32:11,375 --> 00:32:13,333 ANDY: See how it just seems to appear? 772 00:32:13,333 --> 00:32:14,750 PAUL: Yeah. 773 00:32:14,833 --> 00:32:16,083 Some strange movement. 774 00:32:16,083 --> 00:32:17,667 You know what else is interesting? 775 00:32:17,792 --> 00:32:22,000 Is this UFODAP hit coincided with when Art blew the recorder. 776 00:32:24,458 --> 00:32:26,667 Maybe with the end of that part of the ceremony. 777 00:32:26,708 --> 00:32:27,417 Right. 778 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,542 Hey, guys. 779 00:32:37,542 --> 00:32:39,750 ART: We just had an experience over here. 780 00:32:39,833 --> 00:32:40,583 Just now? 781 00:32:40,667 --> 00:32:42,500 Just now. 782 00:32:42,500 --> 00:32:46,333 I heard voices down from the canyon over here, down further. 783 00:32:46,375 --> 00:32:49,833 I could sense that there's something here. 784 00:32:49,958 --> 00:32:51,667 What were you guys hearing? 785 00:32:51,750 --> 00:32:56,500 Continuous but intermittent sounds. 786 00:32:56,583 --> 00:33:01,542 Like rocks hitting the ground behind the brush. 787 00:33:01,667 --> 00:33:02,958 Like something moving? 788 00:33:03,042 --> 00:33:03,833 Something large. 789 00:33:03,917 --> 00:33:04,833 Yeah. 790 00:33:04,917 --> 00:33:05,833 Like disturbing the rocks. 791 00:33:05,917 --> 00:33:07,083 Right. 792 00:33:07,167 --> 00:33:08,583 I didn't hear anything like that. 793 00:33:08,708 --> 00:33:12,167 So whatever you heard was somehow very localized. 794 00:33:12,250 --> 00:33:12,917 Yeah. 795 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,500 That's really wild. 796 00:33:14,542 --> 00:33:16,958 OK, so first of all-- 797 00:33:17,042 --> 00:33:18,500 That was interesting. 798 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,667 Does it slow down and speed up? 799 00:33:23,708 --> 00:33:24,500 ANDY: Yeah, that was-- 800 00:33:24,625 --> 00:33:25,667 PAUL: That's weird. 801 00:33:25,708 --> 00:33:27,167 Here's the frame by frame. 802 00:33:30,458 --> 00:33:33,958 It's similar to what we saw up at the settlement site. 803 00:33:34,042 --> 00:33:35,750 And it also has the change in direction 804 00:33:35,875 --> 00:33:37,000 and the change in speed. 805 00:33:37,083 --> 00:33:38,167 The acceleration. 806 00:33:38,167 --> 00:33:39,708 It looks like a roller coaster. 807 00:33:39,792 --> 00:33:40,500 Yeah. 808 00:33:40,542 --> 00:33:41,833 Yeah. 809 00:33:41,917 --> 00:33:44,083 Nothing on the FAA tracker. 810 00:33:44,167 --> 00:33:46,250 I mean, Paul, that's a UAP. 811 00:33:46,333 --> 00:33:47,875 That's absolutely unidentified. 812 00:33:47,875 --> 00:33:48,667 Yeah. 813 00:33:51,167 --> 00:33:54,542 JON: Oh, look at that. 814 00:33:54,667 --> 00:33:55,875 Changing direction. 815 00:33:55,875 --> 00:33:56,833 PAUL: Did that change direction on us? 816 00:33:56,917 --> 00:33:58,417 Wow. 817 00:33:58,500 --> 00:34:00,167 Completely different direction than previously. 818 00:34:00,250 --> 00:34:01,667 PAUL: Something's going on here. 819 00:34:01,750 --> 00:34:04,792 So we have one UFODAP that's up on the cliff edge, 820 00:34:04,875 --> 00:34:06,542 and then we have one that's here. 821 00:34:06,625 --> 00:34:09,333 And this is the one that's down here in the valley with us. 822 00:34:09,333 --> 00:34:10,708 So all these hits that we've been 823 00:34:10,792 --> 00:34:13,667 seeing of whatever this is-- 824 00:34:13,708 --> 00:34:15,000 Are right here. 825 00:34:15,083 --> 00:34:17,167 This is down in the canyon. 826 00:34:17,208 --> 00:34:20,083 This isn't at altitude. 827 00:34:20,208 --> 00:34:23,042 It is fascinating to me, Paul, that the multiple 828 00:34:23,125 --> 00:34:25,167 sightings that we've seen of this tonight. 829 00:34:25,292 --> 00:34:27,167 But they've been happening multiple times 830 00:34:27,292 --> 00:34:32,417 since the four of us have been standing here at base camp. 831 00:34:32,500 --> 00:34:34,250 Whatever the phenomenon is right now, 832 00:34:34,333 --> 00:34:36,625 it does seem to be hovering around Art. 833 00:34:36,708 --> 00:34:38,917 In my ceremony, that's what I requested. 834 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,875 Was like, show yourself. 835 00:34:40,958 --> 00:34:42,542 Goes back to what I just said. 836 00:34:42,667 --> 00:34:44,667 You know, sometimes we manifest things. 837 00:34:44,750 --> 00:34:48,000 And then if you're looking for evidence, Andy, 838 00:34:48,083 --> 00:34:49,750 I present it to you, sir. 839 00:34:49,833 --> 00:34:51,250 This was a fantastic night. 840 00:34:51,333 --> 00:34:53,917 Absolutely a success on multiple fronts. 841 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,500 And what I want to know is if the Skinwalker team can analyze 842 00:34:56,542 --> 00:34:59,125 this data in any way that we can't to find 843 00:34:59,208 --> 00:35:02,042 any semblance of causation. 844 00:35:02,042 --> 00:35:03,083 Thank you so much. 845 00:35:03,083 --> 00:35:04,042 PAUL: Thanks, guys. 846 00:35:13,333 --> 00:35:15,167 Well, gentlemen, welcome back to the ranch. 847 00:35:15,208 --> 00:35:18,583 I understand you're fresh off of a very different 848 00:35:18,667 --> 00:35:20,167 kind of investigation. 849 00:35:20,375 --> 00:35:22,458 I'm so anxious to learn what you learned at Rock Art Ranch. 850 00:35:22,542 --> 00:35:24,333 I was blown away by this place. 851 00:35:24,417 --> 00:35:27,375 I mean, this was an absolute joy of an investigation. 852 00:35:27,458 --> 00:35:30,542 It was everything you promised it would be and more. 853 00:35:30,542 --> 00:35:33,750 I mean, being able to see these petroglyphs up close inches away 854 00:35:33,833 --> 00:35:34,667 from your face. 855 00:35:34,708 --> 00:35:35,958 I can still feel it now. 856 00:35:36,042 --> 00:35:38,542 The sense of awe. 857 00:35:38,625 --> 00:35:43,083 And our data was difficult to make sense of, frankly. 858 00:35:43,208 --> 00:35:45,500 While we were in this corner, the spiral 859 00:35:45,542 --> 00:35:49,167 portal symbols on the wall, the types of petroglyphs that were 860 00:35:49,208 --> 00:35:51,167 on this wall, Jon was speculating to us 861 00:35:51,250 --> 00:35:53,042 that this might be a portal. 862 00:35:53,125 --> 00:35:55,042 Yeah, this is weird, these results. 863 00:35:55,167 --> 00:35:56,833 I still don't know what to make of it. 864 00:35:56,833 --> 00:36:00,833 Can you-- can you aim right into that crevice right there? 865 00:36:00,875 --> 00:36:01,750 You see the dark spot? 866 00:36:01,875 --> 00:36:03,000 PAUL: OK. 867 00:36:03,042 --> 00:36:04,708 ANDY: Do you see what I'm seeing? 868 00:36:04,833 --> 00:36:07,208 The heat that's sort of trapped in that corner. 869 00:36:07,292 --> 00:36:08,542 Why would there be-- 870 00:36:08,542 --> 00:36:09,667 seems like it should be cold in there. 871 00:36:09,792 --> 00:36:11,500 PAUL: Yeah. 872 00:36:11,542 --> 00:36:14,292 The deeper into the corner you look, the hotter it got. 873 00:36:14,375 --> 00:36:16,333 That's not intuitive at all. PAUL: No, it doesn't make sense. 874 00:36:16,417 --> 00:36:17,375 - Does that make sense to you? - No. 875 00:36:17,500 --> 00:36:18,917 What direction is that facing? 876 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:19,708 Where is heat? 877 00:36:19,792 --> 00:36:21,417 I want to say south. 878 00:36:21,542 --> 00:36:24,500 So sunlight never was directly pointing right down the crevice. 879 00:36:24,542 --> 00:36:26,083 PAUL: Not there. 880 00:36:26,167 --> 00:36:30,000 But those portal designs seem to be clustered in these areas. 881 00:36:30,083 --> 00:36:31,958 You can see you've got our wheels turning over 882 00:36:32,042 --> 00:36:33,000 here on this side of the table. 883 00:36:33,083 --> 00:36:34,500 But that is-- 884 00:36:34,583 --> 00:36:36,292 it's really fantastic, though. 885 00:36:36,375 --> 00:36:39,625 And the anthropologists told us there are ceremonial places, 886 00:36:39,708 --> 00:36:42,500 where their magic portals were and things like that, they let 887 00:36:42,542 --> 00:36:45,833 Mother Nature tell them where it was instead of them picking 888 00:36:45,917 --> 00:36:47,333 the place or building it. 889 00:36:47,417 --> 00:36:49,000 This could really play in an interesting way. 890 00:36:49,167 --> 00:36:50,667 Absolutely could. 891 00:36:50,750 --> 00:36:52,917 So after seeing the canyon where the actual petroglyphs 892 00:36:53,083 --> 00:36:55,375 were, our next objective was to get a sense 893 00:36:55,458 --> 00:36:57,292 of where these people lived. 894 00:36:57,375 --> 00:37:00,958 And Jon took us to some incredibly well preserved 895 00:37:01,042 --> 00:37:02,417 remnants of their dwellings. 896 00:37:02,542 --> 00:37:06,000 So Jon arranged to have a Native American drum 897 00:37:06,083 --> 00:37:10,125 and singing group join us for deep prayer 898 00:37:10,125 --> 00:37:12,125 based ceremonial song. 899 00:37:12,208 --> 00:37:13,042 I like that. 900 00:37:13,042 --> 00:37:14,208 Perfect. 901 00:37:14,333 --> 00:37:16,917 PAUL: Andy, Andy, we're down to 19. 902 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,000 When they started up again? 903 00:37:18,083 --> 00:37:18,875 PAUL: Yep. 904 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,833 18. 905 00:37:20,917 --> 00:37:22,375 17. 906 00:37:22,458 --> 00:37:23,833 What is happening, man? 907 00:37:23,833 --> 00:37:25,708 16. 908 00:37:25,792 --> 00:37:28,833 Wow, look at that. 909 00:37:28,875 --> 00:37:31,125 15. 910 00:37:31,208 --> 00:37:32,542 Dude. 911 00:37:32,542 --> 00:37:34,125 Wow, temperature's really dropping. 912 00:37:34,208 --> 00:37:35,500 PAUL: Really dropping. 913 00:37:35,583 --> 00:37:39,500 We dropped seven degrees in just a few minutes. 914 00:37:39,583 --> 00:37:42,333 And then we made another observation. 915 00:37:42,417 --> 00:37:45,250 So the ceremony, the singing just stopped. 916 00:37:45,333 --> 00:37:47,292 Look at that. 917 00:37:47,292 --> 00:37:51,167 We've gone up in temperature since the music stopped. 918 00:37:51,250 --> 00:37:53,167 That's absolutely repeatable. 919 00:37:53,208 --> 00:37:54,333 We have seen that. 920 00:37:54,417 --> 00:37:56,000 I can't explain it. 921 00:37:56,042 --> 00:37:57,667 We measured it with Blazing Bear. 922 00:37:57,708 --> 00:37:59,833 We've measured it with the rabbi. 923 00:37:59,875 --> 00:38:03,000 I don't understand it, but it is a real phenomenon. 924 00:38:03,042 --> 00:38:05,458 We obviously had the UFODAP running at the same time 925 00:38:05,542 --> 00:38:07,000 as the experiment. - I was going to ask about that. 926 00:38:07,042 --> 00:38:07,833 Yep. Yeah, 927 00:38:07,875 --> 00:38:09,125 There we go. 928 00:38:09,208 --> 00:38:10,250 I was watching in that direction, 929 00:38:10,333 --> 00:38:11,500 seeing if I could see anything. 930 00:38:11,542 --> 00:38:13,083 I didn't find anything yet. 931 00:38:13,208 --> 00:38:14,333 TRAVIS: Uh, there was something. 932 00:38:14,458 --> 00:38:15,667 ERIK: Looked like-- 933 00:38:15,750 --> 00:38:16,708 A meteorite maybe. 934 00:38:16,833 --> 00:38:17,833 ERIK: A meteor, uh-huh. 935 00:38:17,875 --> 00:38:19,292 PAUL: Except as this-- 936 00:38:19,375 --> 00:38:20,875 Did it change its course? 937 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,125 PAUL: Yeah. 938 00:38:22,208 --> 00:38:23,000 Look, look at that. ERIK: Wait. 939 00:38:23,083 --> 00:38:24,000 What? 940 00:38:24,125 --> 00:38:25,125 What just happened there? 941 00:38:25,208 --> 00:38:26,083 PAUL: It sort of surfs. 942 00:38:26,167 --> 00:38:27,292 Direction and altitude. 943 00:38:27,375 --> 00:38:28,458 Let me it to you at full speed. - Wait. 944 00:38:28,542 --> 00:38:29,708 What time of year? It was cold. 945 00:38:29,792 --> 00:38:31,167 There's no bugs flying at 20 degrees. 946 00:38:31,208 --> 00:38:32,083 PAUL: Very cold. 947 00:38:32,167 --> 00:38:33,125 What, what? 948 00:38:33,208 --> 00:38:34,375 What did I just see here? 949 00:38:34,458 --> 00:38:35,792 ANDY: Let me show it to you again. 950 00:38:38,458 --> 00:38:39,833 What in the-- 951 00:38:39,917 --> 00:38:40,792 Yeah. 952 00:38:40,875 --> 00:38:43,417 [laughter] 953 00:38:43,500 --> 00:38:46,625 PAUL: That's my favorite Travis reaction so far. 954 00:38:46,708 --> 00:38:49,708 I mean, we-- we're obviously amused at our own confusion. 955 00:38:49,833 --> 00:38:51,625 And confused with our own amusement. 956 00:38:51,708 --> 00:38:52,750 ERIK: Yes. 957 00:38:52,833 --> 00:38:54,333 I would agree with that as well, I think. 958 00:38:54,417 --> 00:38:57,583 So, here we have another UFODAP hit that we're 959 00:38:57,667 --> 00:38:59,625 not quite sure what to make of. 960 00:38:59,708 --> 00:39:02,542 So first, you see the boxes keying in on something 961 00:39:02,625 --> 00:39:03,833 in the upper right-hand side. 962 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:04,917 But then you see this. 963 00:39:05,042 --> 00:39:06,167 What the-- what? 964 00:39:06,250 --> 00:39:07,083 What is that? 965 00:39:09,833 --> 00:39:10,542 Where does it end up? 966 00:39:10,708 --> 00:39:12,292 Where does that thing go to? 967 00:39:12,292 --> 00:39:13,917 ANDY: It disappears in the center of the screen. 968 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,583 Look, if it's out there and it comes in and does that, 969 00:39:17,667 --> 00:39:20,333 the g-forces on that would be ridiculous. 970 00:39:20,542 --> 00:39:22,042 PAUL: Uh, that's strange, isn't it? 971 00:39:22,042 --> 00:39:23,333 - It's strange. - OK. 972 00:39:23,417 --> 00:39:25,458 This is definitely a piece of footage that 973 00:39:25,542 --> 00:39:26,792 warrants some post-processing. 974 00:39:26,875 --> 00:39:28,292 I'd like to get this raw footage. 975 00:39:28,375 --> 00:39:29,792 And further investigation. 976 00:39:29,875 --> 00:39:31,292 ERIK: Absolutely. 977 00:39:31,375 --> 00:39:32,833 ANDY: But wait-- 978 00:39:32,875 --> 00:39:34,542 There's more. 979 00:39:34,667 --> 00:39:36,542 ANDY: When we showed Art the same UFODAP footage that you 980 00:39:36,625 --> 00:39:39,500 just saw, that was when he came up with the idea of taking 981 00:39:39,542 --> 00:39:41,458 and replicating this similar experiment 982 00:39:41,542 --> 00:39:43,375 inside the canyon itself. 983 00:39:43,375 --> 00:39:46,125 Now, here's where we could start recording what Art was doing-- 984 00:39:46,208 --> 00:39:47,667 Uh-huh. 985 00:39:47,875 --> 00:39:50,208 --following specifically the whistle that Art used 986 00:39:50,292 --> 00:39:51,417 at the end of the ceremony. 987 00:39:51,500 --> 00:39:52,583 [whistling sound] 988 00:39:52,708 --> 00:39:53,917 ERIK: There. 989 00:39:54,042 --> 00:39:55,167 [beep sound] 990 00:39:55,250 --> 00:39:56,958 ANDY: And then you heard that right away. 991 00:39:57,042 --> 00:39:59,083 That was the UFODAP hit. 992 00:39:59,167 --> 00:39:59,875 Are you kidding? 993 00:40:02,208 --> 00:40:03,500 Did it do that? 994 00:40:03,583 --> 00:40:04,667 TRAVIS: It did the same thing again. 995 00:40:04,750 --> 00:40:06,042 - What did we just-- - Look at that. 996 00:40:06,125 --> 00:40:07,167 It's doing the same thing. PAUL: The other day-- 997 00:40:07,250 --> 00:40:08,333 TRAVIS: And it's vanishing. 998 00:40:08,375 --> 00:40:11,542 And it goes the other way. 999 00:40:11,667 --> 00:40:13,292 ERIK: There's an abrupt change there. 1000 00:40:13,375 --> 00:40:15,250 Satellites don't make moves like that. 1001 00:40:15,375 --> 00:40:17,208 Here's the big reveal about this one. 1002 00:40:17,292 --> 00:40:21,125 ANDY: We had two UFODAPs looking at the same patch of sky. 1003 00:40:21,208 --> 00:40:22,500 Excellent. 1004 00:40:22,583 --> 00:40:24,875 But with about 60 feet difference in altitude. 1005 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,333 PAUL: This is from the DAP inside the canyon. 1006 00:40:27,333 --> 00:40:28,375 All right. 1007 00:40:28,375 --> 00:40:29,500 So show us the other one. 1008 00:40:29,542 --> 00:40:30,583 The other one didn't-- 1009 00:40:30,667 --> 00:40:33,167 The other one didn't get it. 1010 00:40:33,250 --> 00:40:35,000 So-- 1011 00:40:35,083 --> 00:40:38,750 PAUL: Whatever this is, it's below the rim of the canyon. 1012 00:40:38,833 --> 00:40:39,958 How? 1013 00:40:39,958 --> 00:40:43,250 Are you sure there wasn't any obstruction 1014 00:40:43,375 --> 00:40:46,000 above the UFODAP in the bottom? 1015 00:40:46,125 --> 00:40:47,167 There's nothing above us. 1016 00:40:47,292 --> 00:40:48,875 I mean, there's some low, sort of, 1017 00:40:48,958 --> 00:40:52,458 brushy trees along the edges, but not where we set up. 1018 00:40:52,542 --> 00:40:54,208 We couldn't explain it. 1019 00:40:54,292 --> 00:40:57,167 And from the data that we were collecting, it was close to us. 1020 00:40:57,333 --> 00:40:58,708 PAUL: The most reassuring thing actually 1021 00:40:58,792 --> 00:41:02,333 was sort of Art's sort of calm demeanor like, well, 1022 00:41:02,417 --> 00:41:03,583 yeah, what did you expect? 1023 00:41:03,667 --> 00:41:05,042 This is what we're here to do. 1024 00:41:05,125 --> 00:41:06,125 Yeah. 1025 00:41:06,208 --> 00:41:07,417 Yeah. 1026 00:41:07,500 --> 00:41:09,125 There's a perception that it's going 1027 00:41:09,208 --> 00:41:12,000 to be a nuts and bolts spacecraft with little aliens 1028 00:41:12,083 --> 00:41:13,333 in it in spacesuits. 1029 00:41:13,458 --> 00:41:17,417 And so who's to say that it's not something more 1030 00:41:17,500 --> 00:41:20,958 akin to an orb that travels. 1031 00:41:21,042 --> 00:41:24,667 So are they telling us something with these petroglyphs about 1032 00:41:24,750 --> 00:41:27,875 what is capable in these locations? 1033 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,792 Were they depicting the story of traveling through a portal using 1034 00:41:31,875 --> 00:41:34,833 energy frequency and vibration, the intermingling 1035 00:41:34,917 --> 00:41:36,833 of all the things vibrating together. 1036 00:41:36,875 --> 00:41:38,333 Right. 1037 00:41:38,417 --> 00:41:40,583 Jon Dover said the same thing about energy, 1038 00:41:40,583 --> 00:41:42,333 frequency, and vibration. 1039 00:41:42,417 --> 00:41:44,625 It's the idea of cause and effect. 1040 00:41:44,708 --> 00:41:47,500 We do this, we get this outcome. 1041 00:41:47,542 --> 00:41:50,125 And that seems to be the story that we're reading out 1042 00:41:50,208 --> 00:41:52,292 of those petroglyph records. 1043 00:41:52,375 --> 00:41:56,000 I'm determined to be caught red handed in the act of learning. 1044 00:41:56,042 --> 00:41:59,333 And I feel like this might be one of those moments. 1045 00:41:59,375 --> 00:42:00,500 I'm with you. 1046 00:42:00,542 --> 00:42:01,917 For sure. TRAVIS: Fantastic 1047 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:02,583 PAUL: Thank you. 1048 00:42:02,708 --> 00:42:03,583 TRAVIS: Thank you, guys. 1049 00:42:03,667 --> 00:42:05,625 ANDY: Thanks, guys. 1050 00:42:05,708 --> 00:42:07,000 ERIK: Believe anything you just saw? 1051 00:42:07,083 --> 00:42:08,167 TRAVIS: I don't know what I just saw. 76882

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