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In 1970 this film
was called "Victory".
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In 1974 it is called
"Here and Elsewhere".
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And Elsewhere.
And...
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In 1970 this film
was called "Victory".
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In 1974 it is called
"Here and Elsewhere".
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And Elsewhere.
And...
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We have chosen a Palestinian revolution
to prove to the world,
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that this Palestinian earth,
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which has been taken away
by the Zionist enemy,
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we would give it back to its people,
to its first origins.
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And we won't give it back
by peaceful means.
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After having lost hope to give it back
by peaceful means...
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we undertook this task through war...
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and with a gun.
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And we shall construct peace
with the help of this gun.
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"The most important result...
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of the armed
Palestinian Revolution...
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is the direct participation...
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of the Palestinian woman...
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in the revolution...
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in order to accomplish her part...
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side by side with the Palestinian man."
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So it was in the middle
or the beginning...
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So it was in the beginning
or the middle of 1970.
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We go to the Middle East.
Who is that "we"?
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In February, July 1970
there is I...
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there is you, there is she, there
is he, who goes to the Middle East,
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amongst the Palestinians,
to make a film,
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And we shot things in this order,
and we organized it.
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She, you, he,
I organized the film like that.
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First, of course, the people...
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the people...
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"What Israel says is untrue;
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It is not a problem of borders
between the Arabs in general,
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and Israel in particular."
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The people, the people's will.
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Then there is the people
taking up arms, the armed struggle...
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the people's war...
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the armed struggle,
the people's war...
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the armed struggle,
the people's war...
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Then there was the political work.
The political work...
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"There is truly a victory
of the Palestinian people".
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...the political work.
The people's education.
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Then there was the time that it takes,
the popular war extended.
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The effort extended the long march.
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The popular war extended,
commanded by the people's logic.
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And all that, until victory.
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"Revolution until victory".
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"By the people, for the people,
revolution until victory".
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All that, we had all organized like that.
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All the sounds, all the images,
in that order.
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All the sounds, all the images,
in that order...
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saying: here is what was beautiful
in the Middle East.
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Five images, five sounds that hadn't
been heard or seen on Arab earth.
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The people's will, plus...
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plus the armed struggle equal the
people's war, plus...
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plus the political work equal the
people's education, plus...
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plus the people's logic
equal the popular war extended...
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extended...
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extended until victory
of the Palestinian people...
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And this is what one,
what he, what I, what she,
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what you had shot elsewhere.
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Elsewhere, 1970, February-July.
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Elsewhere, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria.
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Elsewhere, the Fatah's
Information Department.
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Elsewhere, the 8,000 dollars
from the Arabic League.
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And then we came back home,
I came back, you came back.
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From that, anyway,
we haven't recovered yet.
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She, you, he,
I finally came back here, in France.
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It didn't go well.
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And then days passed,
months passed...
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THE ME'S AND THE YOU'S
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"This one, I say, doesn't want to be
a member of the Socialist Party"...
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THE YOU'S AND THE ME'S
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"This past week, in order to
bring the government bankers
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to submit on several demands,
we saw that the workers' strength..."
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It doesn't go well anywhere.
Nowhere does it go well.
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Here it doesn't go well,
I can't do anything.
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Back in France, very soon you don't
know what to make of the film.
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Very soon, as one says, the
contradictions explode, including you.
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I begin to see it.
I begin to see it.
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Very soon - as one says the
contradictions explode, including you...
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...and you too, you too.
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Because of this...this...this...
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this...became that.
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Or because that...that...that...
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that...became this:
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THINKING OF THAT AGAIN
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ALMOST ALL THE ACTORS ARE DEAD
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THE ACTORS IN THE FILM WERE
FILMED IN DANGER OF DEATH
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DEATH IS REPRESENTED IN THIS
FILM BY A FLOW OF IMAGES
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A FLOW OF IMAGES AND
SOUNDS THAT HIDE SILENCE
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A SILENCE THAT BECOMES DEADLY
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BECAUSE IT IS PREVENTED
TO COME OUT ALIVE
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MAYBE,
IN A THOUSAND AND ONE DAYS,
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SHEHERAZADE
WILL TELL THIS OTHERWISE.
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Through adding hope to dream,
figures have probably been mistaken.
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Or rather: since we find ourselves
near zero, we didn't add but subtract.
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Or rather: it's negative that
has been added and first:
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HERE AND ELSEWHERE
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French Revolution and Arab Revolution.
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Arab Revolution and French Revolution.
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Here and Elsewhere;
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Victory and Defeat;
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Foreign and National;
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Quick and Slowly;
Everywhere and Nowhere;
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To Be and to Have;
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Space and Time; Questions
and Answers; In and Out;
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Order and Disorder; Interior and
Exterior; Black and White;
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Yet and Already;
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Dream and Reality.
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Here or Elsewhere;
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Powerful or Miserable;
Today or Tomorrow;
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Normal or Mad;
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Everything or Nothing;
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Always or Never;
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Man or Woman;
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More or Less;
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To Live or to Die;
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Poor or Rich.
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ABOUT WEALTHY AND POOR.
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Too simple and too easy to
simply divide the world in two.
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Too easy or too simple to say simply
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that the wealthy are wrong
and the poor are right.
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Too simple and too easy to simply say
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that the poor are right
and the wealthy are wrong.
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Too easy and...
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Too easy and too simple.
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Too simple and too easy.
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Too easy and too simple to simply
divide the world in two.
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Here is how the Capital functions;
something like that,
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perhaps one poor and one zero
equal one less poor...
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one less poor and another zero
equal one even less poor...
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one even less poor and
one zero equal one richer...
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one richer and another zero
equal one even richer...
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one even richer and another zero
equal one much richer.
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The Capital functions like that.
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At one given moment it adds,
and what are added are zeros.
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"Yes but zeros that represent tens,
hundreds, thousands of you and me,
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the capitalist says, thus in fact
they are not really zeros".
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One must see or learn to see that tens,
hundreds, thousands of me and you,
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when it's time to pay...
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when it's time to sum up
defeats and victories...
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one gets it up the ass very often,
one gets it up the ass because one...
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I didn't want to see
you either, she either...
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and he either didn't want to see
that all those dreams are represented.
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He didn't want to see
that all those dreams
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are represented at a given time.
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Time given and taken back again
by zeros that multiply them.
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LEARNING TO SEE, NOT TO READ
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But as they are zeros, it multiplies
and nullifies at the same time.
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And so one hasn't had the time to see
that at this moment, in this place,
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our hopes have been reduced to zero.
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To see for instance that the image
of a 17-plus for instance...
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...the image of a 36 equal already,
here in May, the image of a 68...
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...whereas for instance, the image
of a 17-plus the image of a 36...
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elsewhere in September,
still equal the image of a 70.
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In the Soviet or American
capitalistic system,
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it is the system that works,
works, works...
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It works like that.
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And since our dreams are most of
the time added as series of zeros...
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it has to be said that
the images of the sum
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will have nothing to do
with the sum of images.
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Here as elsewhere...
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One can be poor, here, at one place,
and be a millionaire elsewhere...
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a millionaire in images of the place.
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This should begin to be crammed
into your head.
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Poor revolutionary fool.
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Poor revolutionary fool.
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Millionaire in images
of revolution.
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Poor revolutionary fool,
millionaire in images of revolution.
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THINKING OF THAT AGAIN,
HERE AND ELSEWHERE
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Millionaire in images of revolution.
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So, one can finally see that what
happened in this film happens
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In any American movie,
where I added, you added...
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Armed struggle.
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Political work.
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Extended war.
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Until victory.
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O.K., but here, the images
can be seen altogether.
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At the movies, this is impossible.
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One is obliged to see them separately,
one after the other...
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which results in:
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The people's will.
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Armed struggle.
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Political work.
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Extended war.
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Until victory.
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But it is seen as such because in fact
when one makes a film,
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things really happen this way.
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Each time, one image ceases
to replace the other.
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Each time the image after expels
the images before and takes its place...
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keeping of course, more or less,
the memory of it.
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This is made possible
because the film is moving...
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and the images don't come altogether,
but separately to inscribe themselves
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one after the other, on their support:
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Agfa, Kodak, Orvo, Gevaert...
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And on the whole, time has replaced
space, speaks for it, or rather:
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Space - the people's will.
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Space has inscribed itself on film
in another form...
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Time - the people's will.
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Space - the armed struggle.
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which is not a whole any more,
but a sum of translations,
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a sum of feelings
which are forwarded...
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Space - political work.
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...that is, time...
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Time - political work.
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Space - extended war.
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...and the film that is, on the whole,
chain-work images...
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Time - extended war.
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...renders good accout, through this
series of images,
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of my double identity, space and time
chained one to the other...
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Time - until victory.
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...as two workers on
the assembly line...
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where each is at the same time
the copy and the original of the other.
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FIRST
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Well then, how to use one's time
to occupy one's space?
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FIRST
QUESTION
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How is a schedule organized?
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Well, like this...like this...
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But also like that.
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Or like that.
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Or again like that.
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Moreover, in fact, like this.
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As a matter of fact,
it is likely that a chain
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also consists in arranging memories...
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chaining them in a certain order...
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which will get everybody to find
one's place on the chain again...
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that is, to rediscover one's own image.
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O.K. but then: how does one
find one's own image
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in the other's order or disorder?
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With the agreement or
the disagreement of the other?
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And then: How to construct
one's own image?
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One's trademark, that is, an image that
marks, an image that leaves tracks.
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Well, like this...or this...
but also like that...
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that is, like that...
or that...or that...
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by using the gaze of another...
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that for convenience one calls
"my likeness".
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And under the gaze of a third person
who is not yet there...
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but is already represented
by a photographic lens...
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and who will believe you or me...
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you and me when we will look
at this image.
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As a matter of fact,
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it is likely that one constructs
one's own image with the other's.
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Friend or enemy,
you produce your image...
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00:27:30,318 --> 00:27:33,336
You produce and consume
your image with mine...
247
00:27:33,978 --> 00:27:36,259
distributing mine to your image.
248
00:27:46,536 --> 00:27:50,646
So, we have said stuff like that,
in all sorts of directions...
249
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when we thought of what we had
done there 4 or 5 years ago...
250
00:28:00,312 --> 00:28:04,134
and now thinking of what
we are doing here...
251
00:28:04,199 --> 00:28:05,290
"Have you finished your homework?"
252
00:28:09,947 --> 00:28:12,581
"Why hasn't Daddy found a job yet?"
253
00:28:13,512 --> 00:28:15,535
"You'll ask when he comes back."
254
00:28:17,815 --> 00:28:20,705
"Always asking
the same question 'why'..."
255
00:28:22,985 --> 00:28:26,358
Nobody knows how to answer,
or answers are crooked.
256
00:28:27,225 --> 00:28:29,377
We don't do much better, anyway.
257
00:28:30,853 --> 00:28:31,506
And by continuously doing bad,
258
00:28:31,570 --> 00:28:34,279
one ends up thinking that it's not
the answers that don't fit,
259
00:28:34,329 --> 00:28:35,513
but the questions...
260
00:28:37,337 --> 00:28:38,720
"Have you found anything?"
261
00:28:39,342 --> 00:28:40,590
"No, I arrived too late."
262
00:28:48,516 --> 00:28:51,214
"Can you explain to me, Daddy,
I don't understand..."
263
00:28:51,664 --> 00:28:53,700
"No, I have no time for that,
maybe later..."
264
00:28:55,614 --> 00:29:00,078
Thinking that this system of questions
and answers must be abandoned...
265
00:29:01,670 --> 00:29:03,064
that something else has to be found.
266
00:29:04,235 --> 00:29:05,680
How to find a job...
267
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,020
Earn one's living...
268
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:10,273
Live with one's time...
269
00:29:22,301 --> 00:29:27,086
Be employed by the other's time
and employ it in turn.
270
00:29:29,592 --> 00:29:32,288
Before producing,
one will have to distribute.
271
00:29:38,776 --> 00:29:40,189
In order to revolt...
272
00:29:42,116 --> 00:29:43,721
one must find the time to...
273
00:29:44,204 --> 00:29:47,222
have the time to see things simply...
274
00:29:51,558 --> 00:29:56,279
i.e. not to be scared anymore to say
that it's things that are complicated...
275
00:29:57,082 --> 00:30:00,196
and that anxiety is simple,
too simple...
276
00:30:02,091 --> 00:30:04,628
as for instance,
to put the sound too loud:
277
00:30:09,638 --> 00:30:11,372
"No, no, no, the sound not too loud!"
278
00:30:14,675 --> 00:30:16,345
"Say rather that it's you
who wants it that way!"
279
00:30:16,570 --> 00:30:20,320
"Yes it's me! When I'm fed up,
I like it when it shouts!"
280
00:30:24,888 --> 00:30:27,970
"Listen, it's not my fault
if I don't find a job."
281
00:30:28,710 --> 00:30:31,086
"If you spent less time
at your political meetings,
282
00:30:31,118 --> 00:30:33,237
you could maybe find
some to look for a job!"
283
00:30:36,514 --> 00:30:37,926
"Really, that's bullshit!"
284
00:30:38,248 --> 00:30:40,530
"You too! Please turn the sound down."
285
00:30:40,628 --> 00:30:41,331
"Oh, come on!"
286
00:30:41,395 --> 00:30:44,382
Turn the sound louder,
in reality, how does it happen?
287
00:30:45,249 --> 00:30:46,597
Sometimes like this...
288
00:30:50,259 --> 00:30:52,121
Sometimes, also like that...
289
00:31:07,055 --> 00:31:08,242
or like that...
290
00:31:18,776 --> 00:31:23,915
Well, let's split up one of these
movements and look at it slowly.
291
00:31:29,150 --> 00:31:31,558
One sees that there isn't only one
but two movements.
292
00:31:33,677 --> 00:31:37,113
Two noises that move in relation
to one another.
293
00:31:39,362 --> 00:31:43,055
In time of panic and
lack of imagination...
294
00:31:44,147 --> 00:31:46,234
there is always one that takes power.
295
00:31:49,831 --> 00:31:53,877
Here, for instance, there was first the
noises of the school and the family.
296
00:32:06,049 --> 00:32:11,541
Then there will be the noise
erasing that of the family and school.
297
00:32:23,950 --> 00:32:25,671
A point in time...
298
00:32:30,006 --> 00:32:32,543
when one sound takes power
over the others.
299
00:32:35,500 --> 00:32:41,150
A point in time when this sound seeks,
almost desperately, to keep this power.
300
00:32:49,789 --> 00:32:51,844
How did that sound take power?
301
00:32:52,872 --> 00:32:58,010
It took power because at one given time
it made itself represented by an image.
302
00:32:58,974 --> 00:33:01,230
This one for instance:
303
00:33:01,860 --> 00:33:04,144
The image of a gangster
who represents the Mafia.
304
00:33:05,364 --> 00:33:09,026
Or more simply, the image of a foreman
who represents his boss.
305
00:33:23,285 --> 00:33:25,822
To take power is made possible
when the image,
306
00:33:25,853 --> 00:33:29,900
at the same time it reinforces
a sound by taking its place...
307
00:33:30,382 --> 00:33:34,556
when the image in return makes itself
represented by another sound.
308
00:33:38,510 --> 00:33:41,268
Like a worker, making himself
represented by a union...
309
00:33:45,604 --> 00:33:49,040
and this organization translating
this fact by keywords
310
00:33:49,104 --> 00:33:51,192
which are in turn given back
to the worker.
311
00:33:51,256 --> 00:33:52,091
MY GUN
312
00:34:07,345 --> 00:34:10,942
A young guy who reads a porn novel
to forget the factory.
313
00:34:11,938 --> 00:34:17,076
Any daily image will also be part of a
vague and complicated system,
314
00:34:17,108 --> 00:34:20,898
where the whole world enters
and leaves at each moment.
315
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,811
Any image. Any image.
316
00:34:28,638 --> 00:34:32,350
Daily. Daily.
317
00:34:34,515 --> 00:34:38,111
To forget the factory.
to forget the factory.
318
00:34:39,042 --> 00:34:42,189
A vague and complicated system.
319
00:34:45,144 --> 00:34:47,263
A vague and complicated system.
320
00:34:48,901 --> 00:34:52,691
The whole world. The whole world.
321
00:34:56,031 --> 00:34:58,793
No matter how. No matter how.
322
00:35:01,779 --> 00:35:06,180
My daily image will be part of
a vague and complicated system...
323
00:35:06,790 --> 00:35:09,969
where the whole world enters
and leaves at each moment.
324
00:35:14,015 --> 00:35:16,520
the whole world,
that's too much for one image.
325
00:35:17,355 --> 00:35:19,635
"No, not too much" says the
international capitalism...
326
00:35:20,567 --> 00:35:23,104
which builds all its wealth on this truth.
327
00:35:30,393 --> 00:35:32,210
There are no more simple images,
328
00:35:32,545 --> 00:35:37,137
only simple people, who will be
forced to stay quiet, like an image.
329
00:35:41,170 --> 00:35:44,909
Each of us thus becomes
too many inside oneself...
330
00:35:47,992 --> 00:35:49,502
not enough outside.
331
00:35:50,730 --> 00:35:52,006
Little by little, we are replaced...
332
00:35:58,944 --> 00:36:02,733
by uninterrupted chains of images,
enslaving one another.
333
00:37:21,630 --> 00:37:22,835
Little by little...
334
00:37:23,832 --> 00:37:29,773
we are replaced by uninterrupted chains
of images enslaving one another...
335
00:37:31,250 --> 00:37:35,585
each image at its place,
as each of us, at our place...
336
00:37:37,223 --> 00:37:41,398
in the chain of events
on which we have lost all power.
337
00:37:43,700 --> 00:37:46,858
HERE AND ELSEWHERE
338
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:48,592
We did as several people.
339
00:37:48,753 --> 00:37:51,578
We took images and
put the sound too loud.
340
00:37:56,043 --> 00:38:01,000
Vietnam...always the same sound,
always too loud.
341
00:38:01,084 --> 00:38:07,507
Prague, May 68 - France, Italy.
342
00:38:09,146 --> 00:38:11,136
Chinese cultural Revolution.
343
00:38:13,159 --> 00:38:14,251
Strikes in Poland.
344
00:38:14,765 --> 00:38:16,146
Tortures in Spain.
345
00:38:19,550 --> 00:38:22,344
Ireland, Portugal, Chile, Palestine.
346
00:38:27,771 --> 00:38:29,410
The Sound so loud...
347
00:38:29,473 --> 00:38:33,455
that it almost drowned the voice
it wanted to draw out of the image.
348
00:38:46,623 --> 00:38:48,950
Amongst the ruins of the city of Karame,
349
00:38:49,031 --> 00:38:53,431
a little girl from
the Fatah recites a poem.
350
00:38:53,881 --> 00:38:55,165
"I shall resist..."
351
00:39:07,465 --> 00:39:09,841
Listen, you could talk first
about the setting...
352
00:39:10,227 --> 00:39:13,149
and about the actor in this set,
that is, about theater.
353
00:39:14,420 --> 00:39:15,847
This theater, where does it come from?
354
00:39:16,071 --> 00:39:18,449
It comes from 1789,
from the French Revolution...
355
00:39:19,155 --> 00:39:22,077
and from the pleasure
that the Delegates of '89...
356
00:39:22,430 --> 00:39:26,509
took in making large gestures and
reciting their claims publicly.
357
00:39:30,556 --> 00:39:34,890
This little girl is acting for the
Palestinian Revolution, of course.
358
00:39:35,565 --> 00:39:39,515
She is innocent, but maybe
not this form of theater.
359
00:39:53,100 --> 00:39:57,017
Near the Jordan, a small group of
Feddayin tries through discussion
360
00:39:57,050 --> 00:40:00,775
to bind revolutionary
theory and practice.
361
00:40:07,455 --> 00:40:09,510
Listen, be a little simpler
in your speech!
362
00:40:10,180 --> 00:40:11,598
What are they saying, those Feddayin?
363
00:40:12,176 --> 00:40:14,327
They are speaking about
their links to the earth,
364
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,704
taking as an example
the digging of trenches.
365
00:40:17,190 --> 00:40:18,342
And they say exactly:
366
00:40:19,048 --> 00:40:22,774
"In digging our soil we bind
ourselves to it, we love it more."
367
00:40:23,094 --> 00:40:25,600
"And when the earth protects you,
you become its lover."
368
00:40:26,750 --> 00:40:28,426
"So don't talk about practice and theory."
369
00:40:28,490 --> 00:40:33,275
They have said "make love" to their
earth, then say: love and say: make.
370
00:40:34,753 --> 00:40:39,730
In a school, the Democratic Front
organizes alphabetized classes.
371
00:40:40,308 --> 00:40:43,520
A woman repeats a text from the union.
372
00:40:47,181 --> 00:40:50,874
You see, at first she seems
happy to do this little work.
373
00:40:52,223 --> 00:40:53,347
I find her beautiful.
374
00:40:54,663 --> 00:40:56,237
Since she doesn't know how to read,
375
00:40:56,301 --> 00:40:58,164
she is quite pleased
to participate in the struggle,
376
00:40:58,195 --> 00:41:00,220
even by just repeating a text.
377
00:41:07,702 --> 00:41:09,725
But while this repetition proceeds...
378
00:41:17,754 --> 00:41:20,452
she seems more and
more morose, bored.
379
00:41:21,126 --> 00:41:25,172
She seems to wish she could go back to
duties which don't ask her to speak,
380
00:41:25,204 --> 00:41:28,159
even if those duties have
to do with repetition.
381
00:41:28,608 --> 00:41:33,425
Daily life, everyday tasks
inside a revolution - or outside.
382
00:41:34,742 --> 00:41:39,688
Automatisms settle while repeating
words in a certain order,
383
00:41:39,752 --> 00:41:41,647
words that she would never
have said like that.
384
00:41:41,679 --> 00:41:43,734
But what would she have said?
And how?
385
00:41:49,547 --> 00:41:51,667
In any case, the unions
don't ask this question.
386
00:41:52,405 --> 00:41:55,521
Texts talk, talk but never
talk about silence.
387
00:41:56,677 --> 00:42:02,910
In the camp of Bakka, not far from
Amman, a leader from the Fatah speaks;
388
00:42:03,003 --> 00:42:06,376
delivers a speech to celebrate the
anniversary of the victory of Karame.
389
00:42:08,366 --> 00:42:09,843
You see, we were talking about silence.
390
00:42:10,614 --> 00:42:13,087
All that goes wrong can very well
be seen in this image.
391
00:42:13,408 --> 00:42:17,487
The one that represents the people is
speaking alone, far from the people.
392
00:42:23,460 --> 00:42:25,258
As always, theater.
393
00:42:28,599 --> 00:42:29,690
In Beyrouth...
394
00:42:30,428 --> 00:42:31,649
"Can you say it one more time?"
395
00:42:31,713 --> 00:42:36,145
...a pregnant woman is proud
to give her son to the revolution.
396
00:42:48,156 --> 00:42:52,042
In this take, this is not
the most interesting; but that:
397
00:42:53,102 --> 00:42:54,515
"Can you say it one more time?"
398
00:42:54,611 --> 00:42:57,823
"Would you straighten your head
a little?" "Yes, like that."
399
00:43:02,672 --> 00:43:04,140
First thing to say:
400
00:43:04,471 --> 00:43:06,783
It's always the one who
is directed that is seen,
401
00:43:06,847 --> 00:43:08,678
never the one who is directing.
402
00:43:13,710 --> 00:43:16,256
The one that commands and
gives orders is never seen.
403
00:43:21,073 --> 00:43:22,743
There is another thing that doesn't fit.
404
00:43:25,505 --> 00:43:26,960
You have chosen for that take
a young intellectual,
405
00:43:27,011 --> 00:43:29,712
sympathizing with the Palestinian cause,
406
00:43:29,744 --> 00:43:32,764
who is not pregnant but
accepts to play the part.
407
00:43:33,117 --> 00:43:35,171
Furthermore she is young and beautiful.
408
00:43:35,557 --> 00:43:37,484
About that, you remain silent.
409
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,016
But from secrets of this type to fascism,
there is only one quick step.
410
00:43:42,301 --> 00:43:45,577
"And then, in this town
inhabited mainly by Oriental Jews,
411
00:43:45,641 --> 00:43:47,407
anger and hate exploded."
412
00:43:55,770 --> 00:43:58,069
"At a paroxysm of anger,
in a quasi-collective delirium,
413
00:43:58,134 --> 00:44:00,832
a hysterical crowd rushes
inside the building..."
414
00:44:01,409 --> 00:44:02,822
When these images are seen...
415
00:44:02,887 --> 00:44:05,359
"The bodies of the four Feddayin,
thrown out by the windows,
416
00:44:05,392 --> 00:44:09,503
are then burnt by the crowd shouting
'Death to the terrorists'".
417
00:44:09,566 --> 00:44:11,654
When these images are seen,
418
00:44:11,718 --> 00:44:14,737
there is only one thing to say,
one sound to make:
419
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:27,615
"Auschwitz...Treblinka..."
420
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,653
Munich - September 72: Olympic Games.
421
00:44:32,716 --> 00:44:37,598
A Palestinian commando seizes
a dozen hostages from the Isreali team
422
00:44:37,630 --> 00:44:41,098
and threatens to execute them if a
hundred of his Palestinian fellows,
423
00:44:41,163 --> 00:44:43,282
prisoners in Isreal, aren't released.
424
00:44:45,530 --> 00:44:46,718
I don't know.
425
00:44:47,361 --> 00:44:50,026
I am sure that there
was something else to be done.
426
00:44:51,311 --> 00:44:54,843
Think! The conditions
under which that happened:
427
00:44:56,890 --> 00:45:00,174
In Munich, that very day, the strength
of imperialism was in television
428
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,872
and billions of spectators
demanding a program.
429
00:45:03,675 --> 00:45:05,634
It could have been possible
430
00:45:05,666 --> 00:45:07,785
to take advantage of a world-wide
audience listening and say:
431
00:45:08,525 --> 00:45:10,452
"Show this image from time to time!"
432
00:45:11,190 --> 00:45:12,314
If that was refused,
433
00:45:12,378 --> 00:45:16,038
to take advantage of a world-wide
audience watching TV and say:
434
00:45:17,500 --> 00:45:20,310
"You refuse to show this image." -
at each final, for instance.
435
00:45:21,146 --> 00:45:25,250
Okay, we'll kill the hostages
and we'll be killed afterwards.
436
00:45:25,802 --> 00:45:27,440
And for them as for us,
437
00:45:27,504 --> 00:45:32,032
one finds it silly to die for an image
and one is a little scared.
438
00:45:35,450 --> 00:45:40,157
"...crimes of humanity: This time,
the Gates of Hell will be passed..."
439
00:45:40,221 --> 00:45:42,148
Okay, not too many pompous sentences.
440
00:45:43,047 --> 00:45:47,287
I noticed something, you know, while
reading books on concentration camps
441
00:45:47,672 --> 00:45:49,727
when the prisoners couldn't
stand on their feet
442
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,686
and weren't really worth anything.
443
00:45:52,104 --> 00:45:54,223
at the last stage of physical decay,
444
00:45:54,673 --> 00:45:56,535
well, a prisoner was called a Muslim:
445
00:45:57,082 --> 00:46:05,390
"Twelve million men, women and children
were deported, nine million were dead."
446
00:46:06,330 --> 00:46:10,248
"For six million of them,
their only crime was to be Jewish."
447
00:46:11,404 --> 00:46:15,387
Here is a Jew in such a condition
that the SS called him: Muslim.
448
00:46:20,782 --> 00:46:26,100
The silence. The family.
The television.
449
00:46:27,172 --> 00:46:29,164
My silence. Your silence.
450
00:46:31,444 --> 00:46:32,568
The factory and the sexes.
451
00:46:32,610 --> 00:46:35,322
The working conditions.
452
00:46:39,478 --> 00:46:41,543
Pleasure and money.
453
00:46:41,718 --> 00:46:44,048
The working conditions.
454
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,000
Oil and revolution.
455
00:46:52,318 --> 00:46:54,048
The working conditions.
456
00:47:03,875 --> 00:47:05,160
So what are they saying?
457
00:47:06,802 --> 00:47:10,367
They say: concerning
the crossing of the river,
458
00:47:10,431 --> 00:47:13,546
did you find any difficulties,
or make any mistakes?
459
00:47:14,413 --> 00:47:16,130
There is one serious mistake:
460
00:47:16,212 --> 00:47:18,749
since we cross the river
always at the same place,
461
00:47:18,813 --> 00:47:22,024
we are going to have ourselves
located by the enemy's machine-guns
462
00:47:22,089 --> 00:47:25,171
and thus we may cause the
tragic end of the whole group.
463
00:47:32,525 --> 00:47:34,870
I do remember when we shot this.
464
00:47:35,250 --> 00:47:38,467
That was three months before
the September slaughters.
465
00:47:39,270 --> 00:47:41,679
That was in June '70
and in three months,
466
00:47:42,097 --> 00:47:44,183
the whole little group will be dead.
467
00:47:44,770 --> 00:47:49,300
What is really tragic is
that they are here talking...
468
00:47:49,578 --> 00:47:51,217
talking of their own death.
469
00:47:51,731 --> 00:47:53,689
But nobody said that.
470
00:47:54,042 --> 00:47:59,790
No, because it was up to you to say it
and what is tragic is that you didn't.
471
00:48:15,138 --> 00:48:19,619
As they are simple revolutionaries,
they talk about simple things.
472
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:20,900
Incredibly simple.
473
00:48:23,767 --> 00:48:25,372
What are they saying?
474
00:48:26,818 --> 00:48:29,290
"The enemy could easily
recognize our entry post...
475
00:48:29,804 --> 00:48:32,630
encircle us and hit us and destroy us.
476
00:48:33,691 --> 00:48:38,283
Instead of beating and annihilating him,
he will beat and annihilate us.
477
00:48:52,059 --> 00:48:54,276
This is why this type of mistake
should be avoided.
478
00:48:55,720 --> 00:48:58,354
This is why we shouldn't
gather at one point.
479
00:48:59,543 --> 00:49:03,107
These passages shouldn't be individual,
480
00:49:03,139 --> 00:49:06,540
but made so that two or three of our
group could cross the river at once.
481
00:49:30,501 --> 00:49:34,910
It is true that even to silence,
we never listened in silence.
482
00:49:36,056 --> 00:49:39,975
We wanted to crow victory right away,
and furthermore at their place.
483
00:49:52,531 --> 00:49:54,683
If we wanted to make
the Revolution for them,
484
00:49:54,972 --> 00:49:56,610
it's perhaps because at that time
485
00:49:56,771 --> 00:49:58,954
we didn't really want
to make it where we are,
486
00:49:59,339 --> 00:50:01,042
instead of where we aren't.
487
00:50:12,584 --> 00:50:15,796
"Do you think that we have sufficient
knowledge on Isreali positions
488
00:50:15,828 --> 00:50:19,393
to carry through missions
against the enemy?"
489
00:50:20,356 --> 00:50:22,283
"No, we don't know enough."
490
00:50:42,098 --> 00:50:45,246
"Are you able to manage
a suicide operation
491
00:50:45,309 --> 00:50:47,332
on an important position
held by the enemy?"
492
00:50:48,007 --> 00:50:50,049
"Yes, we agree. Of course."
493
00:51:00,725 --> 00:51:04,322
THINKING OF THAT AGAIN,
HERE AND ELSEWHERE
494
00:51:04,385 --> 00:51:07,865
In 1970 this film was called:
Victory.
495
00:51:08,464 --> 00:51:13,217
In 1975 it is called:
Here and Elsewhere.
496
00:51:14,500 --> 00:51:18,100
Here, a French family watches television.
497
00:51:19,100 --> 00:51:22,400
Elsewhere, images of the
Palestinian revolution.
498
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:28,500
Here, today, the sound
and images of today's noise.
499
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:35,000
Elsewhere, first yesterday, abroad,
then tomorrow.
500
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,400
Here, very simple images.
501
00:51:38,900 --> 00:51:43,600
The children watch television, before
doing their homework and after supper.
502
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,417
Elsewhere, very simple images.
503
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:52,900
The Fedayin discuss the way to liberate
the river from the Israeli machineguns.
504
00:51:54,100 --> 00:51:59,900
Where did the inability to see or hear
these very simple images come from?
505
00:52:00,100 --> 00:52:03,500
We have, like everyone,
said something else about them.
506
00:52:03,700 --> 00:52:06,100
Something else than what they are saying.
507
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,000
It seems most likely that
we do not know how to see or listen.
508
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,217
Or, that the sound is
too loud and covers reality.
509
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:21,300
Learn to see here,
in order to understand elsewhere.
510
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:26,317
Learn to understand speech
in order to see what others do.
511
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,200
The others, the "elsewhere" of our "here".
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