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NARRATOR: Tonight on
Beyond Skinwalker Ranch...
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BRANDON: Talk about
a perfect test pad
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that seems to be a sister
location to Skinwalker Ranch.
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What is that
that we're lookin' at?
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I don't know.
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-ANDY: What was that?
-The temperature went up.
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-GUY: It just did it again.
-PAUL: It did it.
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PAUL: That's really weird.
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-[beeping]
-What was that?
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-Right there.
-ANDY: There it is.
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It's getting more intense.
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What is that thing?
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NARRATOR: For years,
scientists have been working
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to reveal the secrets
of Skinwalker Ranch.
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But is it possible that
the clues to unlock the mystery
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are located beyond the borders
of this hub of high strangeness?
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-Now...
-Whoa!
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NARRATOR: ...an ex-CIA agent
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and a veteran journalist
have been recruited
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by the Skinwalker team
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to go on a high-stakes mission
across America.
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Look at all this activity
that's happening.
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-WOMAN: That's unbelievable.
-MAN: Oh my gosh,
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Look at that, look at that,
look at that.
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NARRATOR:
The goal: uncover evidence
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that may finally expose
the truth.
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-What is that thing?
-It's getting more intense.
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PAUL: You ever see
anything like this before?
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ANDY: No.
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♪
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ANDY:
This is just the beginning.
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TRAVIS:
Sound like Brandon's here?
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BRANDON: Hey gentlemen,
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it's time to launch
our new initiative.
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I'd like you to meet
our two new investigators,
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Andy Bustamante and Paul Beban.
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-ERIK: Mornin'.
-Paul. Hey, how are you?
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Nice to meet you.
Hey, Paul. Nice to meet you.
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These are the new members
of our team.
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We're anxious
to launch efforts
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and have
a lot to discuss
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as we take our investigation
beyond Skinwalker Ranch
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to some of
these other sites of interest.
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We appreciate
your qualifications.
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We have two professionals here
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that I think are a true
complement to our effort.
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Andy is a graduate
of the Air Force Academy,
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former CIA investigator
and retired Air Force.
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Paul Beban is an
Emmy Award-winning journalist
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with ABC and PBS
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and brings
a level of expertise and depth
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to the investigation
and documenting,
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really, what we will be
engaging with
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the sites as we proceed forward.
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-That is impressive.
-PAUL: Well, we're excited
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to join the effort
and sort of see how
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all of our skill sets
fit together
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and, you know, get started.
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Erik and I have been talkin'
about this for a long time,
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and we've been kind of running
this idea by Brandon
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that Skinwalker Ranch,
while it is a unique place,
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it might not be the only place
around the globe
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that has a very interesting
phenomenon to be observed.
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But our bandwidth
is getting filled
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with all of the research
and investigation here.
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We need a task force,
a special ops team,
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that can help inform
what we're doing here
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and maybe what our next
experiments will be.
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So, your goal
is to find the places
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that have the weird stories,
take scientific measurements,
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collect data
and even poke the hornet's nest
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and see if any hornets fly out.
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We've got to see
what's goin' on,
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and it will help us understand:
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is-- is Skinwalker Ranch
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isolated, very unique,
nothin' else is like it?
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Or is it connected
to something bigger?
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And I think that's what you guys
are gonna help us figure out.
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We'd like to arm you with many
of the third party experts
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that have aided
the investigation
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here at Skinwalker Ranch.
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Not only to establish
some continuity,
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but to provide
a level of resource.
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Skinwalker Ranch
is base camp to deploy assets.
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We see you truly as an extension
of our investigation.
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So, Paul and Andy,
as-- as your work follows
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the model
of what we've established here
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at Skinwalker Ranch, I fully
expect as you collect your data
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and you're led by your data,
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your findings will help us
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to evolve our process
here at the ranch.
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Yeah, I mean,
Paul and I come in
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really comfortable
with field work.
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We're used to going out there
in front,
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not really knowing
what we're stepping into,
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getting shot at,
and then coming back
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with whatever information
and intel we can collect.
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Hopefully, we won't get
shot at or tear gassed
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or any of the things
that have happened
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uh, in my previous line of work,
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but, you know, we're--
we're ready for anything
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and we're excited
to get out there.
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Given what we know,
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I think,
you know, our first project,
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not too far away, but with
so many similar characteristics,
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is-- is gonna be
really interesting for you guys.
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-Please, do tell.
-Well, you've got my attention.
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ANDY: So, we came into a book
called Merging Dimensions.
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It references a ranch,
Bradshaw Ranch.
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It's not far from a place
called Sedona, Arizona,
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which is commonly known,
even in tourist circles,
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as an area that
in and of itself is strange.
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Wonderful.
I have heard just a little
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about both of these locations.
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You couldn't have picked
a better place to start.
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ANDY: So, the ranch itself
has actually had reports
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of UFO sightings...
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orb sightings...
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-strange creatures.
-PAUL: Yup.
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PAUL: The backstory of
Bradshaw Ranch is fascinating.
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Bob Bradshaw
was really an old-school cowboy
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who ended up turning
this place into a movie set.
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Elvis movies were filmed there.
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I mean, this place
was a bustling scene.
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It was a home.
It was a working film set.
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At the same time,
he and his family
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were experiencing, you know,
all kinds of high strangeness
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in a time when it just
really wasn't spoken of.
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I mean, he had a business
to run out there.
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We saw this spaceship.
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They were traveling fast
down that hillside
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and right into the ranch.
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It was really so--
A spectacular thing to see.
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BRANDON: Talk about
a perfect test pad
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that seems to be a sister
location to Skinwalker Ranch.
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One thing that Bradshaw Ranch
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seems to have in common
with Skinwalker Ranch
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is the diversity
of activity and phenomena.
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We're gonna start with the data.
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We're gonna run experiments
out there,
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we're gonna see if we can
measure these phenomena,
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and we're gonna talk
to as many people as we can
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and try to get the facts
of the backstory.
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ANDY: We've been able
to establish contact
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with the previous owner
of the ranch, John Bradshaw.
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His son, Mason,
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They're the first people
we plan on talking to
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when we land on the ground.
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Well, I'm absolutely
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intrigued by this,
and I can't wait
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to see what
you guys find and report back.
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Just filled with anticipation.
Wishing you the best of luck.
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Yeah, yeah.
Good luck, gentlemen.
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PAUL: All right. So, we're off.
We'll let you know what we find.
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PAUL: Man, you could not ask
for a more spectacular location
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to start
our investigation, right?
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I mean, look at this place.
It's just stunning.
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ANDY: Yeah, absolutely.
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PAUL: I mean,
there's Sedona itself,
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and then Bradshaw Ranch.
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ANDY: Yes, if you consider
Bradshaw Ranch,
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you've got multiple types
of high strangeness
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that already correlate
with the high strangeness
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that they've recorded in
phenomenon at Skinwalker Ranch.
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-PAUL: Right.
-ANDY: Light orbs,
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Skinwalkers themselves
and portals.
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PAUL: There are
a lot of accounts here
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-that sound pretty fantastic.
-Pretty fantastic.
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And pretty far-fetched, right?
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So the question is: how much
are we going to be willing
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to accept, as CIA agents,
investigative journalists?
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Where are we gonna say, "Okay,
this is something here on earth.
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"It could be real and true."
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The whole point
of what we're doin' here
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is pin these
extraordinary stories,
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these anecdotes and experiences,
to reality, right?
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We're gonna use
the scientific method.
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We're gonna try
to do more interviews.
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We're gonna run
some experiments.
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Are there ways to connect
what seems extraordinary
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to actual facts on the ground
right here in the world
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that aren't just,
you know, a tall tale?
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So, what I've experienced
in the field,
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and I'm sure
you've seen it too, Paul,
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is when you talk
to an eyewitness...
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-Yeah.
-...they believe what they saw.
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But the real magic happens
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when you can create
bulletproof evidence
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separate from the eyewitness
experience itself.
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-Something you can measure.
-Yeah.
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Because that
brings a whole new level
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of depth and utility
to the eyewitness account.
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Now, in my time with CIA,
I've seen some crazy things.
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Things that nobody thought
was possible,
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and for sure things
that nobody believed,
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but they still proved
to be true in the end.
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It's really important when you
show up to do an investigation,
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you have to be open
to all the possibilities.
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Because if
you rule something out
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based on your own personal bias,
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you might miss
the most important piece.
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It gives you
a thread to pull
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and then you layer that
with real scientific research
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and you get to see
where that data takes you.
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Well, now we're gonna
put that to the test.
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And we have the benefit
of the experience
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of the team at Skinwalker
to bear on this place,
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which is really untested.
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Yeah, we're visiting
other hornets nests.
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[laughing] That's right.
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We're adding
to the list of hornets nests
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that we're gonna poke.
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-PAUL: Well, here we are
-ANDY: Amazing.
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-How's it goin'?
-ANDY: Hi there.
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-John.
-Mason.
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PAUL: Hey, good to meet you.
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Thank you for meeting us.
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There's so much mystery here.
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Maybe just tell us
a little bit about
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what's the deal out here.
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Well, so it's a lot
of legacies and stories
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and just things that are out
there that people know about.
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We're not gonna tell
you what to believe,
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-but this is what's out there.
-PAUL: Sure.
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JOHN: It was about 1995,
probably.
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My step mom, Linda,
was living out here with my dad.
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They were doin' dishes
and watching TV one night,
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and all of a sudden,
Linda looked out the window
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and there was
what appeared to be
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another time and space
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merging our dimension
with another dimension,
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almost like a projection
screen on a theater.
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PAUL: So, we're talking about
some kind of space-time portal?
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JOHN: That's what
she thought it was, yeah.
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-Okay.
-It's actually really close
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to where we're standing
right now.
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ANDY: Great.
Well, you lead the way.
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JOHN: Let's go.
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PAUL: There's a saying
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that extraordinary claims
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require extraordinary evidence.
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At the same time, when someone
tells me straight-faced,
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someone credible
like the Bradshaws,
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that an interdimensional portal
opened up,
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that's an amazing story.
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I want to know more about that,
but I also need some facts.
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I need some evidence.
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So, I'm open to this,
but I need more
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before I'm willing to say,
"You know what? You're right."
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ANDY: What I'd like to do
is take a few measurements.
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PAUL: All right. Well, let's get
started. Let's get to work.
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ANDY: All right.
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NARRATOR:
Since radiation has been
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a serious safety
problem on Skinwalker Ranch...
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-TRAVIS: Mine's beepin'.
-MAN: Your max is about 120?
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-Yes, 120 somethin'.
-That's pretty high.
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NARRATOR: ...Andy and Paul
have brought in radiation expert
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and Skinwalker veteran
Casey Smith,
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to survey the entire property
for radioactive levels
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and locate
any concerning anomalies.
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-CASEY: 'Sup, guys?
-JOHN: Great to see you.
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-Good to see you guys.
-What's goin' on?
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Just seein' if we get any
radiation measurements out here.
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PAUL: I was gonna say,
what do you got?
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I got a new toy this year.
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This is a gamma cam,
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and we're actually getting
visuals of any radiation
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that's actually
populating around us.
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NARRATOR:
The gamma camera from H3D
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is a high-resolution
imaging system
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that can record visuals
of flowing radiation.
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[beeping]
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The camera also collects data
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of the volume,
intensity and composition
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of any radioactive material
that might be present.
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So, Casey, this is gonna paint
a different picture
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from what you've seen out
at Skinwalker, is that right?
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CASEY: Yeah, so with
the imaging software on here,
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it's just nice
to be able to actually see,
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if there is radiation, where
is it actually coming from?
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You look at some of the events
that happened
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up at Skinwalker Ranch, Travis
got, you know,
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potentially burned with--
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On the skin
with some radiation burns.
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TRAVIS: That could be a tunnel
entrance for all we know.
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I'd like to know
what's in this thing.
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Don't lift it up.
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Feel like,
uh, I've got a little bit
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of a headache
or somethin' happenin'.
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The next day,
I noticed weird red marks
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on my hand and my head.
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♪
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They were radiation burns.
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You know, we don't know
where it came from.
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So, if you had somethin'
like that, maybe you can see--
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"Hey, there's somethin'
that came out
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"from the sky or the ground
or whatever."
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But with this,
you'll be able to pinpoint it.
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CASEY: Yeah.
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Can I take this
for a test drive?
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Absolutely.
So, I got a couple
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other pieces of equipment
over here too.
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I'll grab that as well, but
let's take this guy off here.
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Excellent. Thank you.
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-Mason, you wanna come with me?
-MASON: Oh, yeah.
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I wanna check out some
of what we see
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around these old remains.
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[gamma cam beeping steadily]
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So, I'm not seeing anything
that looks dangerous.
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Organic matter releasing energy
is what we would expect to see.
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-CASEY: This guy here.
-PAUL: What do we got?
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This is an identiFINDER.
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It's got
a sodium iodide crystal in it.
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PAUL: Is the idea
that you're basically
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-just scanning to--
-Yeah, you're just watching
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for the dose rates,
if anything changes.
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[identiFINDER beeping loudly]
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CASEY: Let me walk over
and check these guys
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-and make sure they're goin'.
-PAUL: Sure. Sure.
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Ideally,
for our own personal safety,
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we don't
want to see anything.
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However, if we do see something,
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maybe there's some connection
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with all the strange things
that your family and others
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have reported out here
over the years.
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ANDY: Check this out.
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The ranch house
is that direction.
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-MASON: Yep.
-You see that hot spot?
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-Yeah.
-MASON: There to the left.
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ANDY: Yeah, you see
it radiating into the sky?
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MASON: Mm-hmm.
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ANDY: That's a concentrated
area and a pinpoint.
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CASEY: Well, that's interesting.
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ANDY: What is that
that we're lookin' at?
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[gamma cam beeping intensifying]
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-I don't know.
-[beeping intensifying]
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CASEY: It's like a--
Yeah, we got, like,
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a big streak over here,
and the streak--
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ANDY: It's, like, bridging the
bottom of the screen to the top.
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CASEY: Yeah. The red spots that
we're seeing are high intensity.
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Is it dangerous
what we're looking at?
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Right now, we're pretty low.
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I would suspect that
we would see some spots
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that's gonna be our naturally
occurring radiation
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that's in the ground,
thorium, uranium.
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The streaking that's going off
up into the sky,
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that's strange to me.
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To see this patch
of organic radiation
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in the direction
of the ranch house?
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It just leaves me baffled.
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This is a clear anomaly
that's in an area that has
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been reported multiple times
for high strangeness.
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What have you got, man?
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ANDY: So check this out.
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We've been chasing
kind of a pinpoint red dot
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-across the field.
-Okay.
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Which makes it interesting.
And then we also see
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this strange climbing
into the sky.
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-Do you see that?
-What is that arc?
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It seems to be radiating
up into the atmosphere.
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I don't know what that is.
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PAUL: This is happening
in real time.
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And Casey, who's an expert,
is telling us
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he's never seen
anything like this before.
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It feels like we're on to
something right off the bat.
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Is there a way
to sort of hone in on it?
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Let me give it to you
so you can get a good view.
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Yeah. Here.
Let me trade you. Okay.
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-[beeping intensifying]
-ANDY: So that--
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This is the source
in the ground,
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and that's
radiation into the sky.
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-Do you see it taking off?
-Whoa, what happened?
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-CASEY: We just lost the image.
-ANDY: Is the camera failing?
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The source disappeared
and then the camera.
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PAUL: Well, they're not--
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They go in and out.
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CASEY: Yeah, it's gone.
All of it's gone now.
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You can't get the camera
back up at all.
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The minute I gave this
over to Paul
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and he talked
about homing in
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to track this thing down,
it failed.
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PAUL: That is just so weird.
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ANDY: Almost like
it doesn't wanna be found.
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What I'll do with the data
that we've collected,
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I need to go pull it
into the visualizer software,
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take a look at it,
look for those peaks
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that I saw
up at Skinwalker Ranch
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and see
if they're occurring here.
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I also want to kind
of keep poking around
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and take some more measurements.
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ANDY: Terrific.
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NARRATOR: With a strange
radiation anomaly detected,
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but an all-clear from Casey,
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Andy and Paul are now meeting
with investigators
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who have a story
of a strange creature
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that terrorized
Merging Dimensions authors
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Linda Bradshaw and Tom Dongo.
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All right,
gentlemen, be careful.
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-Okay.
-Little bit
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-of a rough way down here.
-Got it.
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PAUL: Linda, obviously,
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and Tom Dongo,
did a lot of exploring out here.
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What have you heard from Tom?
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[Jeremiah]
In this subject matter
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of this type of research,
Tom is at the top,
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and Linda the same.
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So, they dedicated
their free time
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in exploring the property
when a lot of incredible
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and extraordinary things
happened.
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So, Tom and Linda
were down here?
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[Jeremiah] Yes.
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He did write of one experience
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where they had come down
to this general area,
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and they were stopped in
their tracks by grunting sounds.
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Within a short period of time
of hearing these grunting sounds
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and listening, they heard a roar
which Tom described
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much as an African lion roar.
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Something with
a much deeper voice
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and something more powerful.
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In fact,
we had an experience
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not too long ago
ourselves,
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and we heard
the exact same roar that Tom
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had described years prior
when he was here with Linda.
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ALEXANDRA:
We heard it several times,
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and it sent
a chill down my spine.
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We just-- Both of us,
couldn't wait to get to the car.
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Coming down,
just, probably about ten feet,
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and something tapped Alexandra
on the back of the head.
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Wait, I'm sorry, you felt
something actually touch you?
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Yes. I was last in line,
so Jeremiah and our friend
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were walking ahead of me, and
something tapped me on the head
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just like that. It was--
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-Twice.
-Mm-hmm. Twice.
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So, it wasn't like
you bumped into a branch.
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No, I didn't bump into anything.
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And I looked behind me
and there was nothing there,
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so I asked Jeremiah to quickly
take a picture with the flash.
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And sure enough,
something did show up.
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There was an orb next to me.
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But I can't explain that.
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-That's very interesting.
-JEREMIAH: So, when Tom
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and Linda were referencing
the roar, the corral
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was one of the places where
they would separate some of
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the horses if they were injured
or if they were pregnant.
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And there was an incident
with a pregnant mare
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that started screaming as well.
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And that's right through
the trees here.
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-Let's go check it out.
-Okay, so that's close by.
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-Very close by.
-All right.
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[wind whooshing]
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-Look at this.
-So this is the corral?
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-This is it.
-ANDY: Got it.
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JEREMIAH:
Animals, of course,
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are excellent
sensory perceptive creatures.
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They usually know when something
abnormal is around before we do.
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In this particular case,
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when they could hear
this horse screaming...
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she was so frightened
that her eyes seemed
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to be bugging out of her head
and she was kicking
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with her hind legs
at the enclosure.
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PAUL: Wow. Okay. So,
how do you make sense of that?
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Something was frightening
the horses,
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and they were hearing
this on a regular basis.
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When we talk
about a credibility scale
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in the intelligence world,
we talk about two things.
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We talk about the credibility
of the source,
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but we also talk about the
credibility of the information.
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Jeremiah and Alexandra,
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you see
really solid eye contact,
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you see a level of confidence
as they explained
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their own experiences here
on Bradshaw Ranch.
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But credible
anecdotal information
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is only part of the equation.
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We have to take
from that anecdotal input
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00:17:55,583 --> 00:17:57,833
something that we can
apply science to
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so we can pull
real facts from it.
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I think that's why
we have our boots on the ground.
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Try to see it firsthand.
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NARRATOR: At Bradshaw Ranch
in Sedona, Arizona,
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investigators, Paul Beban
and Andy Bustamante
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have heard stories
of high strangeness
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occurring by the horse corral.
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Something
was frightening the horses
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on a regular basis,
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and she was kicking
with her hind legs
488
00:18:20,917 --> 00:18:22,542
at the enclosure, screaming.
489
00:18:22,667 --> 00:18:24,208
NARRATOR: So they've called in
Skinwalker Ranch
490
00:18:24,333 --> 00:18:26,417
expert Guy Blocker to conduct
491
00:18:26,542 --> 00:18:29,750
a thermal temperature test
for signs of an anomaly.
492
00:18:29,875 --> 00:18:32,750
♪♪
493
00:18:35,292 --> 00:18:37,000
ANDY: Guy, I really appreciate
you comin' out
494
00:18:37,083 --> 00:18:39,000
on a cold night
to be part of this.
495
00:18:39,083 --> 00:18:41,000
PAUL: Now, and you had
an extraordinary
496
00:18:41,167 --> 00:18:43,083
-experience at Skinwalker--
-Yes, I did.
497
00:18:43,208 --> 00:18:44,542
Out at the old homestead.
498
00:18:44,667 --> 00:18:46,167
Yeah, that was
really interesting.
499
00:18:46,292 --> 00:18:48,083
Okay, guys, I have all
the cameras on record,
500
00:18:48,208 --> 00:18:49,500
so we're recording right now.
501
00:18:49,625 --> 00:18:51,333
GUY: In my experience
with thermal,
502
00:18:51,417 --> 00:18:53,250
I normally experience
temperature changes
503
00:18:53,375 --> 00:18:55,000
where if there's
a physical entity
504
00:18:55,083 --> 00:18:57,000
steps in, temperatures go up.
505
00:18:57,083 --> 00:18:58,542
I was expecting a decrease,
506
00:18:58,708 --> 00:19:00,833
and instead
we saw an 11 degree increase.
507
00:19:00,958 --> 00:19:02,792
TRAVIS: Look at the screen.
508
00:19:02,875 --> 00:19:06,042
TRAVIS: Just seconds after
the recording began to play,
509
00:19:06,167 --> 00:19:08,000
there was an obvious rise
in temperature
510
00:19:08,083 --> 00:19:10,250
being shown across
the thermal camera feed.
511
00:19:10,375 --> 00:19:12,000
Just like a switch got flipped.
512
00:19:12,125 --> 00:19:14,292
So, to make this
the most viable,
513
00:19:14,417 --> 00:19:16,500
scientifically relevant
experiment we can,
514
00:19:16,583 --> 00:19:18,833
we want to follow
the same sequence of events.
515
00:19:18,917 --> 00:19:20,167
What's our trigger?
516
00:19:20,292 --> 00:19:22,375
We've got
a 1.6 gigahertz frequency
517
00:19:22,542 --> 00:19:24,958
that we're gonna play here,
and that's similar to something
518
00:19:25,042 --> 00:19:26,792
they detected there
at Skinwalker.
519
00:19:26,917 --> 00:19:28,333
Right.
520
00:19:28,458 --> 00:19:30,375
NARRATOR:
Since the Skinwalker experiment
521
00:19:30,500 --> 00:19:33,292
played an audio signal to
stimulate a rise in temperature,
522
00:19:33,375 --> 00:19:35,542
the team plans
to play back the audio
523
00:19:35,708 --> 00:19:39,667
of the 1.6 gigahertz signal
recorded at Skinwalker Ranch.
524
00:19:39,750 --> 00:19:43,625
This 1.6 gigahertz frequency
repeatedly shows up
525
00:19:43,708 --> 00:19:46,750
at Skinwalker,
accompanied by high strangeness.
526
00:19:46,875 --> 00:19:49,958
If any temperature fluctuations
happen near the corral,
527
00:19:50,083 --> 00:19:53,542
they'll be pinpointed by
Guy Blocker's thermal cameras.
528
00:19:53,708 --> 00:19:57,625
These fluctuations could be
further evidence of an anomaly.
529
00:19:57,708 --> 00:19:59,333
My thought is we aim
that crosshair
530
00:19:59,417 --> 00:20:00,625
in the center of the corral.
531
00:20:00,708 --> 00:20:02,333
PAUL: That's a good place
to start, right?
532
00:20:02,417 --> 00:20:04,083
We also have your traditional
533
00:20:04,208 --> 00:20:06,958
analog-style thermometers
hangin' up on the fence.
534
00:20:07,042 --> 00:20:08,500
This is giving us
multiple data points.
535
00:20:08,583 --> 00:20:09,917
I think we're
ready for our trigger.
536
00:20:10,042 --> 00:20:11,708
-Yeah.
-Let's give it a try.
537
00:20:12,750 --> 00:20:15,625
GUY: As you can see,
right now we're at 28.2.
538
00:20:15,708 --> 00:20:18,083
-ANDY: Our high is 38.6.
-GUY: High is 38,
539
00:20:18,208 --> 00:20:19,833
and that's the tree line
behind the corral.
540
00:20:19,917 --> 00:20:22,833
-Perfect. Start the audio?
-I'm ready when you are, man.
541
00:20:29,458 --> 00:20:31,708
[audio hissing & crackling]
542
00:20:34,583 --> 00:20:36,125
All right, there's our signal.
543
00:20:36,250 --> 00:20:38,583
[hissing and crackling continue]
544
00:20:48,667 --> 00:20:51,333
Everything looks like
it's holding steady here.
545
00:20:55,708 --> 00:20:58,750
[hissing intermittent
mixed in with beeps]
546
00:20:58,875 --> 00:21:01,625
[sounds stop]
547
00:21:04,208 --> 00:21:06,750
[hissing and clicking restarts]
548
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,542
The noise
is just not what it was.
549
00:21:12,667 --> 00:21:14,833
GUY: It's weird.
It goes in and out.
550
00:21:14,917 --> 00:21:18,250
PAUL: It's so much quieter than
it was when we first played it.
551
00:21:19,458 --> 00:21:21,333
I don't know why it's so low.
552
00:21:22,250 --> 00:21:23,958
-ANDY: The volume.
-No, it's ma--
553
00:21:24,083 --> 00:21:25,458
I mean, maximum volume.
554
00:21:27,250 --> 00:21:29,333
[eerie music]
555
00:21:29,417 --> 00:21:31,375
[audio hissing & clicking]
556
00:21:32,375 --> 00:21:33,833
All right, I think
all we can get now
557
00:21:33,958 --> 00:21:35,167
is a few seconds of your time.
558
00:21:35,292 --> 00:21:37,083
-GUY: Right.
-[audio intensifying]
559
00:21:37,208 --> 00:21:38,833
ANDY:
Paul, it's shifting on us.
560
00:21:38,958 --> 00:21:40,458
PAUL: Yeah.
561
00:21:40,583 --> 00:21:42,167
-[audio fizzing]
-PAUL, ANDY: What was that?
562
00:21:42,250 --> 00:21:43,792
GUY: The temperature went up.
563
00:21:43,875 --> 00:21:46,000
-[audio fizzing]
-GUY: It just did it again.
564
00:21:46,125 --> 00:21:47,292
PAUL: That's really weird.
565
00:21:47,375 --> 00:21:49,542
ANDY: 39.8, 32.
566
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,750
[tense music]
567
00:21:55,125 --> 00:21:56,750
We're comin' up on 40 over here.
568
00:21:56,875 --> 00:22:00,458
GUY: Yep. Every time the audio
comes back on, it does it.
569
00:22:00,583 --> 00:22:03,042
It's happened faster,
but it's not unlike
570
00:22:03,167 --> 00:22:05,167
what happened at Homestead
where we had that increase.
571
00:22:05,292 --> 00:22:07,000
That was a drastic change.
572
00:22:07,125 --> 00:22:08,500
ANDY: That was weird.
573
00:22:08,625 --> 00:22:11,833
Watching the temperature
increase five degrees
574
00:22:11,917 --> 00:22:15,083
while nothing else has changed
except for the playing
575
00:22:15,208 --> 00:22:17,500
of a 1.6 gigahertz
communication signal,
576
00:22:17,583 --> 00:22:19,833
seeing the environment
react to that
577
00:22:19,917 --> 00:22:22,208
is just something
that leaves you speechless.
578
00:22:22,333 --> 00:22:24,333
I mean,
wouldn't you expect to see just
579
00:22:24,417 --> 00:22:25,750
a steadily dropping temperature?
580
00:22:25,875 --> 00:22:28,333
Yes, I would,
because as, you know, as--
581
00:22:28,417 --> 00:22:30,708
as the night goes on,
we're losing more and more heat.
582
00:22:30,875 --> 00:22:33,083
Because we have a clear sky, so
there's nothing holding it in.
583
00:22:33,208 --> 00:22:34,500
Clear sky and it's quite still.
584
00:22:34,667 --> 00:22:36,250
I mean, there might
be elevated breeze,
585
00:22:36,375 --> 00:22:37,625
but there's not
much movement down here.
586
00:22:37,708 --> 00:22:39,375
GUY: This is not unlike
what happened
587
00:22:39,500 --> 00:22:41,375
at Homestead where
we had an 11-degree increase
588
00:22:41,542 --> 00:22:43,417
in the space of, like,
a couple of minutes.
589
00:22:43,542 --> 00:22:45,792
Whereas with this,
it went up about five degrees
590
00:22:45,917 --> 00:22:48,250
and then it's
slowly coming back down.
591
00:22:48,375 --> 00:22:50,583
We're hundreds of miles
from Skinwalker Ranch,
592
00:22:50,708 --> 00:22:52,417
replicating as closely as we can
593
00:22:52,542 --> 00:22:56,417
the same experiments,
and seeing similar results.
594
00:22:56,542 --> 00:22:58,667
You can't ignore it.
Something happened here.
595
00:22:58,792 --> 00:23:01,375
Why would this
audio trigger that spike?
596
00:23:01,500 --> 00:23:03,083
I don't think
this was gonna happen
597
00:23:03,208 --> 00:23:04,875
if we did it in--
in our backyard.
598
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,208
If it did, I'd move.
599
00:23:06,375 --> 00:23:08,125
[laughing] Yeah. Exactly.
600
00:23:08,250 --> 00:23:11,417
Guy, we've seen this now
in Skinwalker Ranch with you,
601
00:23:11,542 --> 00:23:13,458
we've seen this now
in Bradshaw Ranch.
602
00:23:13,583 --> 00:23:16,125
Is this kind of activity
something you see regularly?
603
00:23:16,250 --> 00:23:17,750
No, it's only when
I hang out with you guys
604
00:23:17,875 --> 00:23:19,375
that this kind of
thing happens to me.
605
00:23:19,500 --> 00:23:21,042
-[laughing]
-I'm bringin' you along
606
00:23:21,167 --> 00:23:22,542
more often, my man.
607
00:23:22,667 --> 00:23:23,958
No, seriously though,
thank you, Guy.
608
00:23:24,042 --> 00:23:25,250
We got somethin' here
609
00:23:25,375 --> 00:23:26,792
-to push further.
-GUY: Yeah. I--
610
00:23:26,875 --> 00:23:28,583
I think it requires
further investigation.
611
00:23:34,375 --> 00:23:35,708
PAUL: I don't know
about you, Andy,
612
00:23:35,875 --> 00:23:37,625
but I feel like we're off
to a great start.
613
00:23:37,708 --> 00:23:39,375
We've gotten
some really interesting results
614
00:23:39,542 --> 00:23:41,417
really right off the bat.
615
00:23:41,542 --> 00:23:43,500
Every time we've broken out
a new set of instruments,
616
00:23:43,625 --> 00:23:45,500
we've gotten
something surprising.
617
00:23:45,625 --> 00:23:47,667
Yeah, you see it
radiating into the sky?
618
00:23:47,750 --> 00:23:49,500
PAUL: Starting with
the radiological.
619
00:23:49,625 --> 00:23:52,500
Why is there
organic radiation in the sky?
620
00:23:52,625 --> 00:23:54,125
What is that
that we're lookin' at?
621
00:23:54,208 --> 00:23:55,500
I don't know.
622
00:23:55,583 --> 00:23:57,208
PAUL: What we saw with Casey,
623
00:23:57,333 --> 00:23:58,792
I was not expecting
anything like that.
624
00:23:58,875 --> 00:24:01,250
Casey wasn't
expecting anything like that.
625
00:24:01,375 --> 00:24:02,750
And then
the thermal test that we ran.
626
00:24:02,875 --> 00:24:05,292
That's five degrees
of change with nothing
627
00:24:05,375 --> 00:24:07,542
to trigger it
except for a sound.
628
00:24:07,667 --> 00:24:09,833
PAUL: Something brought
that temperature up.
629
00:24:09,917 --> 00:24:11,542
-[audio fizzing]
-ANDY: What was that?
630
00:24:11,667 --> 00:24:13,292
GUY: The temperature went up.
631
00:24:13,375 --> 00:24:15,292
-[audio fizzing]
-GUY: It just did it again.
632
00:24:15,375 --> 00:24:17,167
-It just did it.
-ANDY: That's really weird.
633
00:24:17,292 --> 00:24:18,792
We've been able
to replicate some
634
00:24:18,875 --> 00:24:20,542
of the same outcomes that
they had at Skinwalker,
635
00:24:20,667 --> 00:24:22,000
which is what
we came here to do.
636
00:24:22,125 --> 00:24:24,542
Was to repeat, test,
replicate and measure.
637
00:24:24,667 --> 00:24:28,000
I think one of the next things
to do is to try to bring in
638
00:24:28,125 --> 00:24:31,542
some of the laser testing
that they've done at Skinwalker.
639
00:24:32,500 --> 00:24:34,167
NARRATOR: On Skinwalker Ranch,
640
00:24:34,292 --> 00:24:35,750
the team from Nu-Salt Laser
641
00:24:35,875 --> 00:24:37,667
has conducted
several experiments
642
00:24:37,792 --> 00:24:39,583
to try to stimulate anomalies...
643
00:24:39,708 --> 00:24:41,625
TRAVIS: Holy cow. Look at that.
644
00:24:41,708 --> 00:24:44,333
NARRATOR: ...which resulted
in a correlating U.A.P. sighting
645
00:24:44,458 --> 00:24:45,625
in 2021.
646
00:24:45,708 --> 00:24:46,833
-You see this?
-Yeah.
647
00:24:46,917 --> 00:24:48,500
TRAVIS: What the crap is that?
648
00:24:48,625 --> 00:24:49,958
BRANDON: Unbelievable.
649
00:24:50,042 --> 00:24:51,667
NARRATOR: Now, Andy and
Paul want to see
650
00:24:51,792 --> 00:24:54,375
what effect that same technology
will have
651
00:24:54,500 --> 00:24:56,167
at Bradshaw Ranch.
652
00:24:56,292 --> 00:25:01,292
As far as a starting point,
where Bob Bradshaw saw a U.F.O.,
653
00:25:01,375 --> 00:25:02,833
you know,
slide down that hillside.
654
00:25:02,958 --> 00:25:07,542
We saw this spaceship
traveling fast
655
00:25:07,708 --> 00:25:10,042
down that hillside
and right into the ranch.
656
00:25:10,750 --> 00:25:12,458
ANDY: I agree. I think that's
a perfect place to start.
657
00:25:12,583 --> 00:25:13,833
It's centrally located.
658
00:25:13,958 --> 00:25:15,958
We've had some great data,
but there's still
659
00:25:16,083 --> 00:25:18,083
a lot of questions out there
that we need to answer.
660
00:25:18,208 --> 00:25:20,167
Yeah, we've got some answers,
there are a lot more questions,
661
00:25:20,292 --> 00:25:22,042
-we've got more work to do.
-ANDY: Absolutely.
662
00:25:22,167 --> 00:25:24,333
PAUL: We're gonna fire up
the laser and see what happens.
663
00:25:24,417 --> 00:25:25,875
ANDY: I agree, let's do that.
664
00:25:28,875 --> 00:25:30,250
♪♪
665
00:25:32,750 --> 00:25:34,417
NARRATOR: With their next
plan of attack focused
666
00:25:34,542 --> 00:25:36,375
on the ridge
where Bob Bradshaw had
667
00:25:36,500 --> 00:25:38,333
his infamous U.F.O. sighting,
668
00:25:38,458 --> 00:25:40,208
along with
John and Mason Bradshaw,
669
00:25:40,333 --> 00:25:43,000
Andy and Paul have
called in Skinwalker Ranch
670
00:25:43,125 --> 00:25:46,042
laser experts,
Tim Anderson and Jeremy Fenton,
671
00:25:46,167 --> 00:25:48,167
to help with
their next experiment.
672
00:25:48,292 --> 00:25:49,833
That looks like a good spot.
673
00:25:49,958 --> 00:25:51,917
PAUL: Guys, thank you
so much for comin' out.
674
00:25:52,042 --> 00:25:54,667
So, these guys
at Skinwalker have shot lasers,
675
00:25:54,750 --> 00:25:56,250
-what, at the ridge?
-Yup.
676
00:25:56,375 --> 00:25:57,708
Up into the sky?
677
00:25:57,833 --> 00:25:59,583
What have you got for us?
What did you bring?
678
00:25:59,708 --> 00:26:01,833
We want to run a lot
of the same kind of tests,
679
00:26:01,917 --> 00:26:04,000
and more, like you've
been doin' at Skinwalker.
680
00:26:04,125 --> 00:26:07,417
TIM: So we brought with us
two laser light show projectors,
681
00:26:07,542 --> 00:26:09,583
and we're gonna do
a raster scan.
682
00:26:09,708 --> 00:26:11,500
So, it's really
just gonna illuminate
683
00:26:11,583 --> 00:26:13,833
this whole area with laser.
684
00:26:13,958 --> 00:26:16,042
NARRATOR: In this experiment,
the laser will scan
685
00:26:16,208 --> 00:26:18,833
the ridge from side to side
and top to bottom.
686
00:26:18,958 --> 00:26:21,667
By adding light energy
to the environment,
687
00:26:21,792 --> 00:26:23,917
the hope is
to stimulate an anomaly,
688
00:26:24,042 --> 00:26:27,333
or the beams
could detect a U.A.P.
689
00:26:27,458 --> 00:26:29,458
by bending or disappearing
690
00:26:29,583 --> 00:26:31,833
while refracting
off the unknown object.
691
00:26:31,917 --> 00:26:34,167
So, we not only have
this sighting
692
00:26:34,292 --> 00:26:35,458
that happened in this area,
693
00:26:35,542 --> 00:26:36,917
but we've also had some strange
694
00:26:37,042 --> 00:26:38,708
thermal readings
in that direction.
695
00:26:38,833 --> 00:26:41,083
We've had some radiation
anomalies that have happened
696
00:26:41,208 --> 00:26:42,833
over the ranch house
in this direction.
697
00:26:42,958 --> 00:26:45,833
This location gives us
a really central spot
698
00:26:45,958 --> 00:26:47,583
to set up the laser arrays here
699
00:26:47,708 --> 00:26:49,125
and shine them
in that direction.
700
00:26:49,208 --> 00:26:51,333
I think it's time
to poke the hornet's nest.
701
00:26:51,417 --> 00:26:52,833
See what we find.
702
00:26:54,125 --> 00:26:56,208
NARRATOR: In addition
to the laser technology,
703
00:26:56,333 --> 00:26:57,917
Andy and Paul are also deploying
704
00:26:58,042 --> 00:27:01,208
multiple scientific tools
to monitor the area.
705
00:27:01,333 --> 00:27:03,417
So, we've got kind of
a cool treat for you guys.
706
00:27:03,542 --> 00:27:05,167
-PAUL: Yeah.
-This is a new piece
707
00:27:05,292 --> 00:27:07,000
of equipment called a UFODAP.
708
00:27:07,083 --> 00:27:08,708
It's essentially
a piece of equipment
709
00:27:08,833 --> 00:27:10,708
that puts nonstop eyes
on the sky.
710
00:27:10,833 --> 00:27:13,542
Actively monitoring from
two different base stations,
711
00:27:13,708 --> 00:27:15,833
it's able to search
what the air traffic is,
712
00:27:15,958 --> 00:27:18,042
so that once it zones in
on a target,
713
00:27:18,167 --> 00:27:19,917
it'll track that target
through the sky.
714
00:27:20,042 --> 00:27:22,000
PAUL: These are
basically robot cameras.
715
00:27:22,083 --> 00:27:24,042
If they see anything
that isn't a bird or a plane,
716
00:27:24,208 --> 00:27:25,833
they're gonna lock on it,
and then we can
717
00:27:25,958 --> 00:27:27,625
analyze all that data afterward.
718
00:27:27,708 --> 00:27:29,667
Really looking forward
to seeing how all this works.
719
00:27:29,833 --> 00:27:31,208
-[chuckling]
-So I'm gonna move this one
720
00:27:31,375 --> 00:27:32,833
a little farther over
into this clearing.
721
00:27:32,958 --> 00:27:34,750
It's actually got a good shot
of the hill
722
00:27:34,875 --> 00:27:37,000
-and the sky behind us.
-TIM: Great. And this guy
723
00:27:37,083 --> 00:27:39,000
is gonna head over here
closest to the laser show.
724
00:27:39,083 --> 00:27:41,083
-PAUL: Perfect.
-JEREMY: Kinda want these
725
00:27:41,208 --> 00:27:43,583
to sit on top of each other,
but maybe a little bit higher.
726
00:27:43,708 --> 00:27:44,667
-Try that.
-FLIR should be up
727
00:27:44,750 --> 00:27:46,125
on a monitor now, Andy.
728
00:27:46,208 --> 00:27:47,708
-You got it, Paul.
-PAUL: Excellent.
729
00:27:47,833 --> 00:27:49,417
ANDY: Both UFODAPS are scanning.
730
00:27:49,542 --> 00:27:51,167
So, what we have first
are the UFODAP.
731
00:27:51,250 --> 00:27:53,333
We codenamed them
Hunter and Tracker.
732
00:27:53,458 --> 00:27:56,542
So here, Hunter's on the bottom,
cued into his piece of sky.
733
00:27:56,667 --> 00:27:58,167
Tracker is over here,
734
00:27:58,250 --> 00:28:00,500
and they're actively monitoring
right now.
735
00:28:00,583 --> 00:28:02,875
Here we have
the FLIR thermal camera.
736
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,000
It's actively monitoring
this ridgeline
737
00:28:05,083 --> 00:28:07,917
and the area from
the ground up to the sky.
738
00:28:08,042 --> 00:28:10,500
And then lastly,
we have active tracking
739
00:28:10,583 --> 00:28:12,208
of our radio signals
in the area.
740
00:28:12,333 --> 00:28:15,625
So, we'll be actively monitoring
the entire radio spectrum
741
00:28:15,750 --> 00:28:17,375
while we're going through
the experimentation today.
742
00:28:17,500 --> 00:28:20,042
I think we have all of the
hardware and software set up.
743
00:28:20,208 --> 00:28:22,375
I think the only thing left
is to wait for nightfall.
744
00:28:22,500 --> 00:28:23,625
PAUL: Exactly.
745
00:28:23,708 --> 00:28:24,667
[pulsing and buzzing sounds]
746
00:28:30,583 --> 00:28:31,833
ANDY: We've got
everything set up.
747
00:28:31,958 --> 00:28:33,458
I'm ready to go.
You guys ready to go?
748
00:28:33,583 --> 00:28:35,125
-PAUL: Let's get to it.
-TIM: Absolutely.
749
00:28:35,250 --> 00:28:36,583
NARRATOR: Andy and Paul
750
00:28:36,708 --> 00:28:39,000
have brought in
Skinwalker Ranch laser experts
751
00:28:39,083 --> 00:28:42,667
Tim Anderson and Jeremy Fenton
to try to stimulate an anomaly
752
00:28:42,792 --> 00:28:46,000
at the ridge where
Bob Bradshaw spotted a U.F.O.
753
00:28:46,125 --> 00:28:48,458
They've also set up
their own tech
754
00:28:48,542 --> 00:28:50,000
to help them monitor the area
755
00:28:50,125 --> 00:28:52,167
during the laser light
experiment.
756
00:28:52,292 --> 00:28:54,875
I'm gonna arm the UFODAPs
so they start scanning the sky.
757
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,583
After that,
we want you to make sure
758
00:28:56,708 --> 00:28:58,333
that we hit the FLIR,
and once we have
759
00:28:58,458 --> 00:29:00,875
all three devices rolling,
we turn it over to you guys.
760
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,417
-Okay.
-ANDY: Ready to rock?
761
00:29:02,542 --> 00:29:03,500
-All right.
-Yes.
762
00:29:03,667 --> 00:29:05,708
We're live on Hunter.
763
00:29:05,833 --> 00:29:07,375
[whirring and beeping]
764
00:29:07,542 --> 00:29:09,708
We're live on Tracker.
765
00:29:09,875 --> 00:29:11,417
Both UFODAPs are scanning.
766
00:29:11,542 --> 00:29:16,667
Temp steady so far.
Our high is 36.8, low 22.4.
767
00:29:16,792 --> 00:29:18,792
-Lasers ready.
-ANDY: Let's do it.
768
00:29:18,875 --> 00:29:20,458
All right, everybody,
here we go.
769
00:29:20,542 --> 00:29:24,708
Three, two, one, hit it.
770
00:29:27,208 --> 00:29:29,000
-PAUL: Nice.
-ANDY: Look at that.
771
00:29:30,208 --> 00:29:32,167
Remember, we've gotten reports
not just in the sky,
772
00:29:32,250 --> 00:29:33,833
-but also in the woods.
-PAUL: Yup.
773
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,542
ANDY: In the wash.
774
00:29:35,667 --> 00:29:37,833
We've got to keep our eyes
all around.
775
00:29:37,917 --> 00:29:39,708
PAUL: As we're
carrying out this experiment,
776
00:29:39,833 --> 00:29:41,875
we're trying to paint
this hillside with energy,
777
00:29:42,042 --> 00:29:44,667
trying to recreate
or trigger something
778
00:29:44,833 --> 00:29:47,000
along the lines
of what Bob Bradshaw saw.
779
00:29:47,125 --> 00:29:48,958
PAUL: What is the range of that?
780
00:29:49,083 --> 00:29:52,667
These lasers are good
for about a mile to two miles.
781
00:29:52,792 --> 00:29:54,500
It all depends
on the atmosphere.
782
00:29:54,583 --> 00:29:55,958
We don't really have any clouds,
783
00:29:56,042 --> 00:29:58,000
so it's gonna continue
into space.
784
00:29:58,083 --> 00:30:00,292
Paul, I'm gonna start scanning
some of these frequencies.
785
00:30:01,083 --> 00:30:03,208
We're expecting to see
some U.H.F. traffic,
786
00:30:03,333 --> 00:30:05,292
but anything that's anomalous,
this will pick up
787
00:30:05,375 --> 00:30:07,792
and we'll be able to hone in
and listen to the signal.
788
00:30:07,875 --> 00:30:09,917
-Got it.
-[lasers humming]
789
00:30:11,625 --> 00:30:13,875
ANDY: So, this is the kind
of spike that we're looking for.
790
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,667
That's interesting. That shows
it's an active transmission.
791
00:30:16,792 --> 00:30:18,250
-See how tall it is?
-PAUL: Yeah.
792
00:30:18,375 --> 00:30:19,833
ANDY: So, I'm gonna see
if we can
793
00:30:19,917 --> 00:30:21,542
identify the right bandwidth
794
00:30:21,667 --> 00:30:23,292
to actually
listen in to the signal.
795
00:30:23,375 --> 00:30:24,833
So, you're saying
that's a local transmission
796
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,458
of some kind
that we're picking up?
797
00:30:26,583 --> 00:30:27,917
ANDY: Correct.
798
00:30:28,708 --> 00:30:30,208
[beeping and crackling]
799
00:30:30,333 --> 00:30:32,667
ANDY: Let me hear it.
Ah? Come on.
800
00:30:32,792 --> 00:30:34,458
[choppy radio noises]
801
00:30:35,208 --> 00:30:36,417
Come on.
802
00:30:37,333 --> 00:30:39,792
I'm gonna take this
one hertz at a time.
803
00:30:40,667 --> 00:30:42,375
We're zooming in on the signal.
804
00:30:42,542 --> 00:30:44,042
[radio hissing]
805
00:30:47,042 --> 00:30:50,583
There she is. At 1.6 gigahertz.
806
00:30:50,708 --> 00:30:53,292
PAUL: 1.6 is what they see
at Skinwalker.
807
00:30:53,375 --> 00:30:55,083
Correct.
We're not sending anything.
808
00:30:55,208 --> 00:30:57,708
ANDY: No,
we are not transmitting that.
809
00:30:57,875 --> 00:30:59,542
We are picking up the signal.
810
00:30:59,708 --> 00:31:01,625
[beeping and crackling]
811
00:31:01,750 --> 00:31:03,250
-You see that?
-It just did it again.
812
00:31:03,375 --> 00:31:05,083
ANDY: Like a pulse.
There it is again!
813
00:31:05,208 --> 00:31:07,042
-PAUL: Oh, yeah.
-Right there.
814
00:31:07,167 --> 00:31:08,750
Whoa, that's the biggest
one we've seen so far.
815
00:31:08,875 --> 00:31:11,042
ANDY: The fact that we're seeing
this transmission
816
00:31:11,167 --> 00:31:13,458
when we were not seeing this
transmission earlier
817
00:31:13,542 --> 00:31:15,167
is significant.
818
00:31:15,250 --> 00:31:18,250
This mysterious
1.6 gigahertz signal
819
00:31:18,375 --> 00:31:20,917
pops up again and again
during active experimentations
820
00:31:21,042 --> 00:31:22,458
on Skinwalker Ranch.
821
00:31:22,542 --> 00:31:23,958
ERIK: Hey, hey, hey, it's here.
822
00:31:24,083 --> 00:31:26,167
We've got that 1.6 thing.
823
00:31:26,292 --> 00:31:28,083
We're clearly getting' a signal.
824
00:31:29,250 --> 00:31:31,417
Now, what's interesting is
a signal of this strength,
825
00:31:31,542 --> 00:31:32,917
1.6 gigahertz,
826
00:31:33,042 --> 00:31:35,333
is an interstellar
communication signal.
827
00:31:35,458 --> 00:31:37,875
Anybody on earth
who is a professional
828
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,875
treats 1.6
as a privileged frequency
829
00:31:41,042 --> 00:31:42,917
that's only used
for communication
830
00:31:43,042 --> 00:31:45,083
from earth to space
and space to earth.
831
00:31:46,208 --> 00:31:49,167
PAUL: It's coming to us
from space. Is that right?
832
00:31:49,250 --> 00:31:51,792
That's-- that's right.
The only thing I can think of.
833
00:31:51,875 --> 00:31:53,250
These are radio frequencies
834
00:31:53,375 --> 00:31:55,667
that are available
only to the military to co-opt.
835
00:31:55,750 --> 00:31:57,542
So, could it be a satellite?
836
00:31:57,667 --> 00:32:00,083
ANDY: If it was a satellite
signal, it would come and go.
837
00:32:00,208 --> 00:32:02,042
It's not energy efficient
for a satellite
838
00:32:02,167 --> 00:32:03,500
to constantly transmit.
839
00:32:03,667 --> 00:32:05,000
Instead,
they have scheduled times
840
00:32:05,125 --> 00:32:06,750
and scheduled locations
where they transmit.
841
00:32:06,875 --> 00:32:08,333
That way, as they
go around the earth
842
00:32:08,458 --> 00:32:10,500
they send their signal,
receiver picks it up,
843
00:32:10,625 --> 00:32:13,500
and then they can store energy
for the next rotation.
844
00:32:14,375 --> 00:32:16,500
I can't help but think
that the lasers have had
845
00:32:16,667 --> 00:32:17,792
something to do with this, Paul.
846
00:32:17,917 --> 00:32:19,333
I don't know what else it
could be.
847
00:32:19,500 --> 00:32:20,625
PAUL: We are pumping
848
00:32:20,750 --> 00:32:21,917
all this light energy out
849
00:32:22,042 --> 00:32:24,042
out onto the hillside
with our lasers,
850
00:32:24,208 --> 00:32:25,833
and the spectrum analyzer
851
00:32:25,958 --> 00:32:27,833
is picking up
all kinds of crazy frequencies.
852
00:32:27,917 --> 00:32:30,042
The same place
that Bob Bradshaw saw
853
00:32:30,167 --> 00:32:33,000
that U.F.O. so many years ago.
854
00:32:33,125 --> 00:32:35,208
Something has to be causing
all that to happen.
855
00:32:35,333 --> 00:32:38,417
Is it the lasers?
It's certainly a possibility.
856
00:32:38,542 --> 00:32:40,833
ANDY: With so many anomalies
happening at the same time,
857
00:32:40,958 --> 00:32:42,333
it's hard to keep up
with them all.
858
00:32:42,458 --> 00:32:44,792
I kind of want
to just embrace this.
859
00:32:44,875 --> 00:32:46,500
[beeping]
860
00:32:46,667 --> 00:32:48,292
What was that?
861
00:32:49,708 --> 00:32:51,333
[beeping]
862
00:32:54,667 --> 00:32:55,792
-Another one?
-Right there.
863
00:32:55,917 --> 00:32:56,833
There it is. Look at that.
864
00:32:56,958 --> 00:32:58,542
Look at that, look at that.
865
00:32:58,708 --> 00:33:00,125
-[beeping]
-JOHN: What is that?
866
00:33:00,250 --> 00:33:01,875
ANDY: That's the UFODAP
doin' it's job.
867
00:33:02,042 --> 00:33:03,792
That small square,
that small red square
868
00:33:03,875 --> 00:33:05,083
is where it's zoomed in.
869
00:33:05,208 --> 00:33:06,875
Aw, it just left--
870
00:33:07,042 --> 00:33:09,000
Oh, it's--
Check it out. Look over here.
871
00:33:09,125 --> 00:33:11,042
Paul, look at that!
It's getting more intense.
872
00:33:11,167 --> 00:33:13,292
Look at how bright it is.
What is that thing?
873
00:33:13,375 --> 00:33:15,167
-[beeping]
-ANDY: That is zoomed in
874
00:33:15,292 --> 00:33:17,667
on an object in the sky
that fits the definitions
875
00:33:17,833 --> 00:33:19,958
-for an anomaly.
-[beeping]
876
00:33:20,042 --> 00:33:21,458
PAUL: I'm freakin' out.
Look at that thing.
877
00:33:21,542 --> 00:33:23,000
ANDY: And it passed
through Hunter
878
00:33:23,125 --> 00:33:24,667
and into Tracker's
line of sight,
879
00:33:24,750 --> 00:33:26,333
and it was recorded.
880
00:33:26,458 --> 00:33:28,333
All right, so this is the hit
that Hunter picked up.
881
00:33:28,458 --> 00:33:30,667
-Flickers in and out.
-ANDY: Oh, look at that.
882
00:33:30,792 --> 00:33:33,167
Whoa, whoa, whoa, can you
scroll back and slow that down?
883
00:33:33,292 --> 00:33:35,042
There it is. Look at
that shape. What is that?
884
00:33:35,208 --> 00:33:37,000
PAUL: I think it picks
it up right about here.
885
00:33:37,125 --> 00:33:38,833
Let's bring up
the second camera.
886
00:33:38,917 --> 00:33:41,208
PAUL: Yep, same thing
on the other camera.
887
00:33:41,375 --> 00:33:43,667
I mean, the movement
is faster than a plane would be,
888
00:33:43,792 --> 00:33:46,917
and those lights are not
flickering in the same pattern.
889
00:33:47,042 --> 00:33:49,250
I mean,
you were in the Air Force.
890
00:33:49,375 --> 00:33:52,250
You ever seen anything that
has this sort of light pattern?
891
00:33:52,375 --> 00:33:54,917
What I know, Paul,
is that aircraft
892
00:33:55,042 --> 00:33:57,167
are required
to have two colored lights,
893
00:33:57,250 --> 00:33:58,625
a green light and a red light.
894
00:33:58,708 --> 00:34:00,625
If they're landing,
they have landing lights,
895
00:34:00,708 --> 00:34:02,000
which are a bright white light.
896
00:34:02,125 --> 00:34:04,625
What we just saw
had no colored lights
897
00:34:04,750 --> 00:34:06,958
and it had multiple
flickering white lights only.
898
00:34:07,042 --> 00:34:08,833
Like it's tumbling,
and those lights
899
00:34:08,917 --> 00:34:11,292
are flickering
as it goes around.
900
00:34:11,375 --> 00:34:14,500
When it's frozen there,
there are two distinct sources
901
00:34:14,625 --> 00:34:18,583
of light, and then when
it flickers, it is very bright.
902
00:34:19,292 --> 00:34:21,000
-Boom.
-ANDY: That's almost explosive.
903
00:34:21,083 --> 00:34:22,500
PAUL: It's pulsing.
904
00:34:22,625 --> 00:34:26,958
This is a U.A.P.
There's no question about it.
905
00:34:27,667 --> 00:34:32,167
All at the same site
where Bob, your dad,
906
00:34:32,250 --> 00:34:36,250
reported having an alien
spacecraft hover over his head.
907
00:34:37,375 --> 00:34:39,000
PAUL: I have come
into this entire experience
908
00:34:39,125 --> 00:34:40,500
with an open mind.
909
00:34:40,667 --> 00:34:42,083
I am a skeptic by nature,
910
00:34:42,208 --> 00:34:43,333
I'm a skeptic by training.
911
00:34:43,458 --> 00:34:45,292
It's part of my profession.
912
00:34:45,417 --> 00:34:48,708
However, when you have
an experience like we've had,
913
00:34:48,833 --> 00:34:50,375
you have to step back
914
00:34:50,500 --> 00:34:53,167
and sort of reevaluate
all your assumptions.
915
00:34:53,292 --> 00:34:56,125
We could be on to something here
that's really extraordinary.
916
00:34:56,250 --> 00:34:59,167
PAUL: I can't wait
to show this to Erik and Travis
917
00:34:59,292 --> 00:35:00,417
and see what they make of it.
918
00:35:05,125 --> 00:35:06,500
ANDY: I am absolutely hooked
919
00:35:06,625 --> 00:35:08,000
on this kind
of investigation now.
920
00:35:08,125 --> 00:35:10,917
I see why
you just can't let it go.
921
00:35:11,042 --> 00:35:12,833
We've got some really
interesting stuff
922
00:35:12,958 --> 00:35:14,500
to show you,
and we're excited to hear
923
00:35:14,625 --> 00:35:17,208
what you think
about what we found.
924
00:35:17,333 --> 00:35:19,000
So, I think what we're
gonna start with here,
925
00:35:19,125 --> 00:35:21,000
what Andy has cued up,
is where Bob
926
00:35:21,083 --> 00:35:22,667
experienced the U.F.O.
going overhead
927
00:35:22,792 --> 00:35:25,750
of the ridge
and then disappearing behind it.
928
00:35:25,875 --> 00:35:28,375
Because we were in an area
of a suspected U.F.O. sighting,
929
00:35:28,500 --> 00:35:30,583
we also deployed our UFODAP
for the first time.
930
00:35:30,708 --> 00:35:32,208
-Oh, good.
-And here's what they captured
931
00:35:32,333 --> 00:35:34,458
during the same time
as our experiment.
932
00:35:34,542 --> 00:35:37,000
So, this is the UFODAP
locking into something strange.
933
00:35:37,083 --> 00:35:39,167
You can see the flashing.
934
00:35:39,292 --> 00:35:41,208
Whatever it is,
it's movin' fast.
935
00:35:41,333 --> 00:35:42,875
ANDY: Now,
what caught us immediately
936
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,708
is that there were plenty
of aircraft in the air flying,
937
00:35:45,833 --> 00:35:47,125
but they didn't look like this.
938
00:35:47,208 --> 00:35:48,500
They have a specific
pulsating flash,
939
00:35:48,625 --> 00:35:50,833
they have red lights
and green lights on them.
940
00:35:50,958 --> 00:35:52,375
Let me show you
what an airplane--
941
00:35:52,500 --> 00:35:54,292
This is our control video
for what it looks like
942
00:35:54,375 --> 00:35:56,292
when the UFODAP
captures an airplane.
943
00:35:56,417 --> 00:35:58,042
You can see
that steady flashing light.
944
00:35:58,208 --> 00:35:59,750
-ERIK: Sure.
-PAUL: Once it passes through,
945
00:35:59,875 --> 00:36:01,958
-it just ignores it.
-ANDY: But here, the UFODAP
946
00:36:02,042 --> 00:36:03,417
was catching something
that did not look
947
00:36:03,542 --> 00:36:05,000
like your traditional aircraft,
948
00:36:05,083 --> 00:36:06,500
especially here
where it zoomed in
949
00:36:06,625 --> 00:36:08,417
and actually identified
what looked like
950
00:36:08,542 --> 00:36:11,000
two sources of light
in a tumbling object.
951
00:36:11,125 --> 00:36:12,708
It's very interesting.
952
00:36:12,833 --> 00:36:14,500
BRANDON: Do you believe
that the U.F.O. activity
953
00:36:14,625 --> 00:36:17,000
was triggered
by some of your experiments
954
00:36:17,083 --> 00:36:18,667
or your activity in the area?
955
00:36:18,792 --> 00:36:21,000
What we know is that
they happened at the same time.
956
00:36:21,083 --> 00:36:22,542
They correlated. We don't know
957
00:36:22,667 --> 00:36:24,208
about the connections
between them.
958
00:36:24,333 --> 00:36:26,125
That's the right word to use.
They correlated.
959
00:36:26,208 --> 00:36:27,708
BRANDON:
I can't help but to notice
960
00:36:27,833 --> 00:36:30,875
the distinct difference between
the conventional aircraft
961
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,500
and the U.F.O.
962
00:36:32,625 --> 00:36:34,292
PAUL: Yeah, it's unmistakable.
963
00:36:34,375 --> 00:36:36,375
ANDY: So, we also identified
some strange behavior
964
00:36:36,500 --> 00:36:38,250
at 1.6 gigahertz
at the same time
965
00:36:38,375 --> 00:36:40,042
we were running our
experiment in the open field.
966
00:36:40,167 --> 00:36:42,292
And what we ended up
being able to do was hear
967
00:36:42,375 --> 00:36:44,375
similar transmission
to what you recorded here
968
00:36:44,542 --> 00:36:46,250
on Skinwalker Ranch
on that 1.6 gigahertz.
969
00:36:46,375 --> 00:36:48,708
PAUL: I think what we want to do
is get you that data file.
970
00:36:48,875 --> 00:36:51,167
You guys can run it and compare
it to what you're hearing here
971
00:36:51,250 --> 00:36:53,125
and see, is it the same,
how it's different.
972
00:36:53,250 --> 00:36:55,667
ERIK: I'm really interested
in your characterization
973
00:36:55,792 --> 00:36:57,333
of that signal as strange.
974
00:36:57,417 --> 00:37:00,042
We'll take a look
and see how strange it is.
975
00:37:00,167 --> 00:37:01,542
I want to add
another dimension here.
976
00:37:01,667 --> 00:37:03,208
I was gonna say this--
There's more.
977
00:37:03,333 --> 00:37:04,708
Wait, there's more!
978
00:37:04,833 --> 00:37:06,125
PAUL: There's more.
979
00:37:06,208 --> 00:37:08,208
ANDY: So, what I want
to share here--
980
00:37:08,333 --> 00:37:10,667
So if you recall, we had
Casey Smith from Qualtech
981
00:37:10,833 --> 00:37:13,333
come out and assist us
with some radiation surveys
982
00:37:13,417 --> 00:37:15,250
and help to keep us all safe.
983
00:37:15,375 --> 00:37:17,333
Now, he also brought out
with him a new piece of tech,
984
00:37:17,458 --> 00:37:19,167
something called a gamma cam,
that was designed
985
00:37:19,250 --> 00:37:22,250
to track, in real time,
radiation levels.
986
00:37:22,375 --> 00:37:24,000
So this is
an imaging capability?
987
00:37:24,083 --> 00:37:25,750
-ANDY: Correct.
-TRAVIS: Wow, nice.
988
00:37:25,875 --> 00:37:27,917
-We need that at Homestead too.
-I want that.
989
00:37:28,042 --> 00:37:30,583
ANDY: Now, here we're actually
touring the Old West town.
990
00:37:30,708 --> 00:37:32,208
At first, we got really excited
991
00:37:32,333 --> 00:37:34,167
about all this elevated
radiation energy
992
00:37:34,292 --> 00:37:35,667
that you can see us pointing at.
993
00:37:35,750 --> 00:37:37,500
And the thing was,
this happened immediately.
994
00:37:37,625 --> 00:37:39,792
So we thought,
"Whoa, we-- we just got here,
995
00:37:39,875 --> 00:37:42,250
"and we're kicking up
some kind of effect."
996
00:37:42,375 --> 00:37:43,750
Turns out--
997
00:37:43,875 --> 00:37:45,333
ANDY:
Yeah, what he was identifying
998
00:37:45,458 --> 00:37:46,917
was radon that
was being kicked up.
999
00:37:47,042 --> 00:37:49,083
-It makes perfect sense.
- As we were walking through--
1000
00:37:49,208 --> 00:37:50,708
Radon pools
and collects in the sand,
1001
00:37:50,875 --> 00:37:52,833
and as you stir it up,
then it releases it.
1002
00:37:52,958 --> 00:37:55,750
I'll tell you somethin'
it does tell me though:
1003
00:37:55,875 --> 00:37:57,750
when you see radon gas,
it suggests
1004
00:37:57,875 --> 00:38:00,042
that there are
uranium deposits nearby.
1005
00:38:00,167 --> 00:38:02,042
-Oh, okay.
-So, there's likely
1006
00:38:02,208 --> 00:38:04,750
uranium deposits
underneath the area there.
1007
00:38:04,875 --> 00:38:07,167
So, I find it really
interesting though.
1008
00:38:07,250 --> 00:38:09,083
ANDY: Now, what was
interesting to us also,
1009
00:38:09,208 --> 00:38:11,292
Casey spent a good half
of a day with us
1010
00:38:11,375 --> 00:38:12,958
recording on the gamma cam.
1011
00:38:13,042 --> 00:38:15,750
Now this is a recording
of the same radiation spike
1012
00:38:15,875 --> 00:38:19,500
over the ranch house
as the gamma camera's running.
1013
00:38:19,625 --> 00:38:21,167
TRAVIS:
Whoa, did you see it jump?
1014
00:38:21,292 --> 00:38:22,625
ERIK: What?
1015
00:38:22,708 --> 00:38:24,000
Hey, stop. Stop it right there.
1016
00:38:24,125 --> 00:38:26,250
-ANDY: Yes, sir.
-[sighing]
1017
00:38:28,375 --> 00:38:30,250
Look at this.
1018
00:38:30,375 --> 00:38:32,000
What does that suggest
to you, Travis?
1019
00:38:32,083 --> 00:38:33,542
That there was interference.
1020
00:38:33,667 --> 00:38:36,458
This is-- this is an
interference pattern, right?
1021
00:38:36,542 --> 00:38:39,000
In gamma rays. Play through
to where there was a thing here.
1022
00:38:39,125 --> 00:38:40,708
-You got it.
-A minute ago, right?
1023
00:38:40,875 --> 00:38:42,542
-Yeah.
-Okay.
1024
00:38:42,667 --> 00:38:45,625
That is-- It's,
like, perfectly rectangular.
1025
00:38:45,750 --> 00:38:48,958
There's somethin' out here
that's a hole.
1026
00:38:49,792 --> 00:38:51,458
-A hole in what?
-I don't know.
1027
00:38:51,542 --> 00:38:55,333
A hole, an aperture of--
A screen, a block of metal
1028
00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:57,292
with a--
with a square hole in it.
1029
00:38:57,375 --> 00:38:58,667
Could it be a solid object?
1030
00:38:58,792 --> 00:39:00,542
TRAVIS: It could
be a solid object, yes.
1031
00:39:00,667 --> 00:39:04,833
And then,
go forward to the next thing.
1032
00:39:05,958 --> 00:39:07,167
TRAVIS: Keep goin'.
1033
00:39:07,292 --> 00:39:08,833
Whoa, whoa, right there.
1034
00:39:10,417 --> 00:39:12,000
So, this looks like
there's somethin' that--
1035
00:39:12,125 --> 00:39:14,083
that the gamma
rays are coming through a hole,
1036
00:39:14,208 --> 00:39:15,542
hitting the ground.
1037
00:39:15,667 --> 00:39:17,458
So, if you take a laser,
and you get
1038
00:39:17,542 --> 00:39:19,542
a little card
and cut a square hole in it
1039
00:39:19,667 --> 00:39:22,500
and you shine the laser
through the holes
1040
00:39:22,625 --> 00:39:26,625
and you look across the room,
you'll see a pattern like that.
1041
00:39:26,708 --> 00:39:28,708
-A diffraction pattern.
-A diffraction pattern.
1042
00:39:28,833 --> 00:39:31,125
This suggests
perhaps these gamma rays
1043
00:39:31,208 --> 00:39:34,333
are coming through a hole
somewhere out here in the sky
1044
00:39:34,458 --> 00:39:37,708
and-- and then this
is the diffraction pattern
1045
00:39:37,875 --> 00:39:41,333
of them passing around
whatever this is out there.
1046
00:39:41,458 --> 00:39:42,750
-Wow.
-But-- but why?
1047
00:39:42,875 --> 00:39:44,167
TRAVIS:
But why? I have no idea.
1048
00:39:44,250 --> 00:39:45,458
[laughing]
1049
00:39:45,542 --> 00:39:46,542
And the-- and the location.
1050
00:39:46,667 --> 00:39:48,042
This overhead anomaly
1051
00:39:48,167 --> 00:39:49,500
is right above the ranch house.
1052
00:39:49,583 --> 00:39:51,958
BRANDON:
Well, is this a point of entry
1053
00:39:52,042 --> 00:39:53,333
or activity?
1054
00:39:53,458 --> 00:39:55,042
PAUL:
These are all valid questions.
1055
00:39:55,167 --> 00:39:57,917
The fact that you described it
as something almost rectangular,
1056
00:39:58,042 --> 00:40:00,625
I mean, that matches up
exactly with the photograph
1057
00:40:00,708 --> 00:40:02,750
that Linda took
and their descriptions
1058
00:40:02,875 --> 00:40:04,500
of what they called
something like a portal.
1059
00:40:04,625 --> 00:40:06,292
ERIK:
Travis, this has gotta be one
1060
00:40:06,417 --> 00:40:08,500
of the most
interesting radiation surveys
1061
00:40:08,625 --> 00:40:10,750
that I have seen
in connection with this work.
1062
00:40:10,875 --> 00:40:13,083
Never seen-- Well, this
is a new piece of equipment.
1063
00:40:13,208 --> 00:40:14,708
But look-- look at this, Erik.
1064
00:40:14,833 --> 00:40:16,417
Look at the bar that tells you
the strength--
1065
00:40:16,542 --> 00:40:18,208
the strength
of the peaks of that
1066
00:40:18,333 --> 00:40:22,500
is in the tens
of millisieverts per hour.
1067
00:40:24,042 --> 00:40:25,500
That's dangerous levels.
1068
00:40:25,625 --> 00:40:27,292
That's reminding me
of the experience that you had.
1069
00:40:27,417 --> 00:40:28,708
-TRAVIS: Yeah.
-PAUL: Whoa, whoa,
1070
00:40:28,833 --> 00:40:31,000
so you're saying
this aerial phenomenon,
1071
00:40:31,083 --> 00:40:35,500
this was actually a-- a--
a dangerous burst of radiation?
1072
00:40:35,625 --> 00:40:38,083
I'm thinking
if you were standing right there
1073
00:40:38,208 --> 00:40:39,792
where you see those red peaks,
1074
00:40:39,875 --> 00:40:41,667
you could have had
problems like I had.
1075
00:40:41,792 --> 00:40:43,333
TRAVIS: What happened
at Homestead Two
1076
00:40:43,458 --> 00:40:44,833
really shook me up.
1077
00:40:44,958 --> 00:40:47,625
I noticed weird red marks
on my hand and my head.
1078
00:40:47,708 --> 00:40:49,583
They were radiation burns.
1079
00:40:49,708 --> 00:40:52,250
That could also explain why
it didn't hit everybody else.
1080
00:40:52,375 --> 00:40:53,958
-Look how localized it is.
-Very localized.
1081
00:40:54,042 --> 00:40:55,833
This is unbelievable
how localized that is.
1082
00:40:55,958 --> 00:40:58,667
BRANDON: Well, and hovering,
and it's right above
1083
00:40:58,792 --> 00:41:01,667
a main point of interest,
the old house.
1084
00:41:01,750 --> 00:41:04,042
This is literally
giving me chills, guys.
1085
00:41:04,167 --> 00:41:08,000
It's seeing the very localized
gamma ray events
1086
00:41:08,083 --> 00:41:10,208
that you guys captured
on this ranch
1087
00:41:10,375 --> 00:41:13,250
that actually kind
of helps us understand
1088
00:41:13,375 --> 00:41:15,958
the very localized
gamma ray events
1089
00:41:16,042 --> 00:41:18,167
that have happened here
on Skinwalker Ranch,
1090
00:41:18,292 --> 00:41:20,167
and those were localized
gamma ray events
1091
00:41:20,292 --> 00:41:21,542
that we can't explain.
1092
00:41:21,667 --> 00:41:23,292
Looks like you guys
have captured
1093
00:41:23,375 --> 00:41:24,875
that occurring in real time.
1094
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,375
This is what we were able
to collect on this trip.
1095
00:41:27,500 --> 00:41:28,625
Our time was limited.
1096
00:41:28,708 --> 00:41:30,375
We went in guns blazing
1097
00:41:30,542 --> 00:41:33,292
as much as we could
looking for answers
1098
00:41:33,375 --> 00:41:35,583
related to the strangeness
of the ranch.
1099
00:41:35,708 --> 00:41:37,417
Well, you said
your time was limited,
1100
00:41:37,542 --> 00:41:39,458
but I'll tell you,
it was well spent.
1101
00:41:39,542 --> 00:41:41,167
PAUL: There is
still more to that story.
1102
00:41:41,250 --> 00:41:43,958
I mean, we still have
further roads to go down.
1103
00:41:44,042 --> 00:41:46,875
It truly does warrant
further investigation.
1104
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,500
Guys, this was
very well-executed on the parts
1105
00:41:49,583 --> 00:41:51,333
of everyone
who participated in this.
1106
00:41:51,458 --> 00:41:52,875
This really sets a high bar
1107
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,667
for everything
that's going to follow.
1108
00:41:54,750 --> 00:41:56,667
PAUL: Well, guys,
thank you for all your feedback.
1109
00:41:56,792 --> 00:41:58,625
We're excited to hand off
some more data to you,
1110
00:41:58,708 --> 00:42:01,333
and we're excited to get
to work on our next project.
1111
00:42:01,458 --> 00:42:03,167
Yeah, can't wait
to see what you do next.
1112
00:42:03,250 --> 00:42:04,583
-PAUL: All right.
-ANDY: Thank you.
1113
00:42:04,708 --> 00:42:06,167
Thank you so much, gentlemen.
1114
00:42:06,292 --> 00:42:07,625
This was an awesome experience.
1115
00:42:07,708 --> 00:42:09,458
- Awesome.
- Good luck, gentlemen.
1116
00:42:09,542 --> 00:42:11,625
-Thank you. We'll talk soon.
-All right.
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