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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:15,950 --> 00:00:16,950 Let's see. 2 00:00:18,830 --> 00:00:20,370 All right. Another new session. 3 00:00:21,850 --> 00:00:23,590 Oh, come on in. 4 00:00:23,930 --> 00:00:24,930 Hi. Sorry. 5 00:00:25,150 --> 00:00:26,970 I didn't mean to barge in. 6 00:00:27,330 --> 00:00:32,090 No, it's all right. It's your hour. Yeah, of course. Nice to meet you. 7 00:00:32,290 --> 00:00:34,790 Penelope? Yes, Penelope. Penelope's brother, Alliance. 8 00:00:35,130 --> 00:00:36,470 Yes. All right. 9 00:00:36,750 --> 00:00:38,750 Well, have a seat. You too. All right. 10 00:00:39,510 --> 00:00:41,030 Thank you for having us. 11 00:00:42,110 --> 00:00:43,110 Yeah. 12 00:00:44,010 --> 00:00:45,090 Oh, there we go. 13 00:00:47,370 --> 00:00:49,910 Are you going to record all the sessions? 14 00:00:50,390 --> 00:00:54,970 You know, for a long time I was doing notes by hand, and it's so much easier. 15 00:00:55,490 --> 00:00:57,390 Is anyone else going to play the footage? 16 00:00:57,670 --> 00:00:59,170 Oh, my session notes? No. 17 00:00:59,890 --> 00:01:05,330 No, it's Travis. It goes right into my computer. 18 00:01:05,590 --> 00:01:06,650 Nobody sees it. 19 00:01:06,970 --> 00:01:07,970 Okay, good. 20 00:01:08,330 --> 00:01:09,650 I'm a little concerned there. 21 00:01:09,970 --> 00:01:10,829 It's all right. 22 00:01:10,830 --> 00:01:13,790 Well, anyway, my name is Dr. Penny Barber. 23 00:01:15,550 --> 00:01:18,430 I've been practicing family therapy for about five years now. 24 00:01:19,390 --> 00:01:21,610 It's been my passion forever. 25 00:01:21,950 --> 00:01:27,690 Very, very pleased to be able to, you know, work with people and just kind of, 26 00:01:27,690 --> 00:01:30,410 you know, just trying to make the world a better place a little bit. 27 00:01:31,610 --> 00:01:33,410 I'm a philatelist. I collect stamps. 28 00:01:36,620 --> 00:01:38,480 Yeah, and I'm very excited to meet both of you. 29 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,080 Can you tell me a little bit about yourself, Penelope? Of course. So my 30 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:43,080 name is Penelope. 31 00:01:43,580 --> 00:01:45,460 I'm about to start college very soon. 32 00:01:45,960 --> 00:01:48,760 And I'm typically very kept to myself. 33 00:01:48,980 --> 00:01:53,780 I just like to water my plants. I like to go to the beach. I hang out with my 34 00:01:53,780 --> 00:01:54,780 friends a lot. 35 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:56,500 I like to go shopping. 36 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:02,080 I typically study a lot. So, you know, for the most part, I stay home. 37 00:02:03,420 --> 00:02:07,180 Yeah, I feel like I'm a pretty simple girl. I just like to, you know, do my 38 00:02:07,180 --> 00:02:08,199 typical girly things. 39 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:13,100 Okay. Yeah. Well, thank you for being here today. Yeah, thank you for having 40 00:02:13,100 --> 00:02:14,100 us. Wyatt? 41 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:21,260 Well, I'm kind of here because she dragged me here, but I'm just about to 42 00:02:21,260 --> 00:02:25,340 finish school for going to engineer. I love playing sports all the time. 43 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,360 And my favorite is soccer. 44 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,100 And, yeah, I stay home. 45 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:39,860 And if I'm not focusing on school, maybe because she's home all the time, I try 46 00:02:39,860 --> 00:02:42,460 to find things to do elsewhere. 47 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,100 But, yeah, that's how it is. 48 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:51,720 Okay. All right. Well, thank you both for being here, even if you're 49 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:52,720 stepsister. 50 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:54,600 Yes, yes. 51 00:02:55,060 --> 00:03:01,640 My dad married her mom, and we kind of just, like 12 years ago, we kind of were 52 00:03:01,640 --> 00:03:02,640 just stuck together. 53 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,620 I wouldn't say stuck together. 54 00:03:07,640 --> 00:03:09,680 Well, okay. 55 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,500 Let's start getting into it then. 56 00:03:13,740 --> 00:03:15,780 Mel B, why would you say you're here today? 57 00:03:16,580 --> 00:03:20,320 So, basically, I wouldn't say we're stuck together, Leah. We're really 58 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:21,380 close, and you know this. 59 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,860 12 years is a long time to be close and join at the hip. I would say we're very, 60 00:03:25,920 --> 00:03:27,320 very, almost like best friends. 61 00:03:27,620 --> 00:03:31,380 We were always together. We basically shared a bug bed together. So you can 62 00:03:31,380 --> 00:03:34,320 imagine that, how that is. You know, we're 24-7 together. 63 00:03:35,020 --> 00:03:36,020 Stop. 64 00:03:36,380 --> 00:03:37,380 Okay? Stop. 65 00:03:37,740 --> 00:03:42,340 And, you know, I'm just typically a little concerned because we were always 66 00:03:42,340 --> 00:03:45,680 together. We were always, you know, cooking together, watching TV together, 67 00:03:46,020 --> 00:03:51,220 and doing all these kind of hobbies and growing up together. And, well, ever 68 00:03:51,220 --> 00:03:53,820 since... School started, upper class started. 69 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:58,520 You've been acting really different, and you just don't, you're just so distant. 70 00:03:58,700 --> 00:04:02,860 You don't communicate with me. We're just two different people at this point, 71 00:04:02,940 --> 00:04:04,680 and I just, it makes me really sad. 72 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:11,320 So you feel there's been a rift growing? Yes, a rift. I would say we're just 73 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:12,880 two completely different people. 74 00:04:13,390 --> 00:04:15,230 We just don't hang out together anymore. 75 00:04:15,530 --> 00:04:17,370 It's just like I don't even know you anymore, Leah. 76 00:04:17,630 --> 00:04:22,430 I mean, you are right. We did grow up a lot together, and it was so fun. Like, 77 00:04:22,490 --> 00:04:25,090 you really did feel like a sister to me. 78 00:04:26,330 --> 00:04:31,410 But you just become so overprotective. Every time I get a girlfriend, you tell 79 00:04:31,410 --> 00:04:34,110 me this and that and what I should or shouldn't be doing. 80 00:04:34,350 --> 00:04:38,330 And you always ask them all these questions. Like, I can't hang out with 81 00:04:38,330 --> 00:04:39,430 girls because of you. 82 00:04:39,710 --> 00:04:45,830 It's not. Okay, I'm not telling you what to do. I am simply just getting to know 83 00:04:45,830 --> 00:04:48,990 them. I want to make sure no one's taking advantage of you. I know. 84 00:04:49,390 --> 00:04:52,350 It's basic duties as a bigger, older sister. You know this. 85 00:04:53,020 --> 00:04:54,540 You don't have to handle that. 86 00:04:55,020 --> 00:04:58,680 Okay, Elias, but you know that these girls are just trying to take advantage 87 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:03,340 of you. They don't have the best... Do you have a girlfriend? 88 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,500 Well, I did until... Yeah, her. 89 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:11,700 She kept on telling me all these things, and she broke up with me because of it. 90 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:16,500 I can't really go outside and socialize with these women because, you know, 91 00:05:16,500 --> 00:05:17,860 she's so overprotective. 92 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,820 It's not because of my fault. Maybe they just weren't good enough for you. You 93 00:05:21,820 --> 00:05:25,200 know, so it's their fault, not mine. So I don't know why you're putting the 94 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:26,200 blame on me. 95 00:05:26,380 --> 00:05:30,260 And I don't know how to make her not worry so much about me that I'm really 96 00:05:30,260 --> 00:05:31,820 just trying to explore, you know? 97 00:05:32,500 --> 00:05:34,020 Are you dating? 98 00:05:34,260 --> 00:05:41,200 I mean, I did have a boyfriend, but it didn't really lead to 99 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:45,760 anything. I just miss our bond. Honestly, I don't need anybody else at 100 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:46,760 this point. 101 00:05:48,280 --> 00:05:52,560 Okay. So you're a little uncomfortable that he started dating in general or the 102 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:53,560 girls that he's dating? 103 00:05:53,660 --> 00:05:57,240 He's growing up way too fast. He should not be dating at all whatsoever. 104 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:01,200 I think she's so worried because she's about to leave to her college and, you 105 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:07,000 know, all this unsupervision. She's just been even more hard on me now, and I 106 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,920 just don't know how to... I just want us to rebuild our bond together because I 107 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,180 am going to be leaving for college really soon, and if there's no bond, 108 00:06:14,340 --> 00:06:15,440 what am I going to come back to? 109 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,320 Did you miss anything about that closeness? 110 00:06:19,900 --> 00:06:25,480 Yeah. I really did really like how much fun we would have. 111 00:06:25,840 --> 00:06:31,540 Oh, yeah, but you don't keep that in mind anymore. Well, why would you say it 112 00:06:31,540 --> 00:06:33,800 changed you if you just kind of grew out of it? 113 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:39,320 I don't know. I feel like... 114 00:06:41,610 --> 00:06:45,690 You're just too good for me now, I feel like. That's exactly how it feels. It 115 00:06:45,690 --> 00:06:49,710 is. You keep shutting me out. You have to change. 116 00:06:49,910 --> 00:06:54,110 And honestly, if we have this rift between us, it's going to grow even 117 00:06:54,110 --> 00:06:58,030 more. Look, look, there's a secret that I've been meaning to tell you. 118 00:06:58,330 --> 00:06:59,330 What's that? 119 00:06:59,650 --> 00:07:04,350 The real reason why I broke up with my girlfriend is that one time we were 120 00:07:04,350 --> 00:07:05,890 having sex and I... 121 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:10,900 accidentally moaned your name, and I know I was embarrassed and mad about it, 122 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,300 and I just didn't know how to tell you. Like, I really do miss you a lot, and 123 00:07:14,300 --> 00:07:19,080 you get so overprotective that I can't, but really, like, I want to have that 124 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:20,080 energy with you. 125 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:21,860 That was interesting. 126 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:26,460 Yeah, why didn't you ever tell me this? I'm just too embarrassed about it. Yeah. 127 00:07:27,060 --> 00:07:33,120 No, I get it. Can I ask, like, why you chose to be misleading about the 128 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:34,860 situation? I don't know. 129 00:07:37,370 --> 00:07:41,530 really into you, and I just don't know how to, like, you tell me how to talk to 130 00:07:41,530 --> 00:07:44,670 these girls, but really I'm trying to figure out how to talk to you. 131 00:07:45,790 --> 00:07:52,270 Well, I wish you would have told me this way sooner, Leah. It's like, I mean, I 132 00:07:52,270 --> 00:07:57,090 don't know what else we could do. How does that make you feel? It makes me 133 00:07:57,090 --> 00:08:02,390 feel flattered and all, but I just wish you told me this sooner, you know, and 134 00:08:02,390 --> 00:08:03,950 what makes you feel... 135 00:08:04,460 --> 00:08:07,980 Flattered? That's an interesting response. Could you speak about that a 136 00:08:07,980 --> 00:08:08,679 little bit more? 137 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,160 Well, I mean, me and Aaliyah only know each other, you know? We're basically 138 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:13,660 always together. 139 00:08:14,660 --> 00:08:20,000 I mean, I wasn't expecting this, but I guess I could say I'm a little, you 140 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:24,600 know, I kind of feel the same way, but it's just, I feel like it'd be 141 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:25,600 considered really weird. 142 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,860 Well, I mean, I suppose it could be considered. 143 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:36,940 a little bit strange or unusual, but, you know, that's not really, you know, 144 00:08:36,940 --> 00:08:40,679 who's to say? You know, one person's strange or unusual might just be the way 145 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,440 things are, you know? Yeah, you're right. Well, I mean, I don't know how we 146 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:49,400 move on forward with this, you know? Okay, so it sounds like there has been 147 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:56,320 an attraction, perhaps on both ends for a while, and, 148 00:08:56,500 --> 00:08:59,540 like, you've tried dating. 149 00:09:00,660 --> 00:09:01,660 Yeah. Quite a bit. 150 00:09:02,660 --> 00:09:06,700 And I'll be trying dating, but maybe not quite so much. Yeah, not so much. She 151 00:09:06,700 --> 00:09:10,780 doesn't talk to anyone, really. Like she said, she stays home all the time. 152 00:09:11,060 --> 00:09:15,660 And I feel like because... Do you want her to talk to other people and get out 153 00:09:15,660 --> 00:09:19,340 more? I mean, I don't know how to get her out of that shell. 154 00:09:20,580 --> 00:09:23,760 Yeah. I mean, it's really hard because, you know... 155 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:28,680 I've just been used to our bond, and I never would have thought this was going 156 00:09:28,680 --> 00:09:29,680 to change, you know? 157 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:34,380 But instead of telling me to do other things with, like, different women, 158 00:09:34,500 --> 00:09:38,780 like, you've got to let me know, and we could plan something again. 159 00:09:39,140 --> 00:09:42,680 You know what I'm saying? You're always busy. You're so controlling and 160 00:09:42,680 --> 00:09:46,580 protective, and I just... It's not controlling. I just want more 161 00:09:46,580 --> 00:09:51,340 communication between us, but I feel like they're just... 162 00:09:51,690 --> 00:09:56,910 And he's always had something planned up every single day, and I just don't know 163 00:09:56,910 --> 00:09:58,050 how else to get to him. 164 00:09:58,310 --> 00:10:02,450 So you think he just, like, how much attention do you want? Is it, like, one 165 00:10:02,450 --> 00:10:06,270 day a week, one day a month? That's not enough. I feel like we shouldn't be 166 00:10:06,270 --> 00:10:10,110 hanging out at least four times a week, you know, and just having me and you 167 00:10:10,110 --> 00:10:13,830 time. But, I mean, you're always with all these missus and all these girls 168 00:10:13,830 --> 00:10:16,750 that you don't need any attention. You shouldn't be getting any attention from 169 00:10:16,750 --> 00:10:19,850 because, I don't know, you're still super young. I don't think you need all 170 00:10:19,850 --> 00:10:20,850 of that right now. 171 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:22,040 All this drama. 172 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:24,000 Okay. 173 00:10:24,180 --> 00:10:28,980 So, do you think that four times a week to hang out is too much? 174 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,560 Would that be something you'd like to commit to? 175 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:37,300 I guess that's okay. But, you know, we're both, like, going to our big 176 00:10:37,300 --> 00:10:40,660 schools now. What do you really expect us to do? 177 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,880 I mean, at least before I leave, you know. I mean, there's ways we can 178 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:46,880 communicate. 179 00:10:47,610 --> 00:10:51,570 You know, we could definitely hang out sometimes in the weekend, but that is if 180 00:10:51,570 --> 00:10:56,170 you make time for us, you know. And I don't know if I could trust that out of 181 00:10:56,170 --> 00:10:59,110 him because he says one thing and he's going to jump to another. So 182 00:10:59,110 --> 00:11:04,310 hypothetically, moving forward, if the two of you were to 183 00:11:04,310 --> 00:11:10,570 maybe spend not as much time together, but that 184 00:11:10,570 --> 00:11:16,410 lesser time was of a more intense quality. 185 00:11:18,250 --> 00:11:21,390 Yeah, but it feels like we don't have anything in common anymore. 186 00:11:21,770 --> 00:11:26,650 Right, because we, I don't know, I feel like we're kind of just straying away 187 00:11:26,650 --> 00:11:29,670 from each other. Yeah, you really like music. 188 00:11:29,890 --> 00:11:31,190 I really just like to go do. 189 00:11:31,790 --> 00:11:37,370 So when you're talking about spending time together, like hanging out like 190 00:11:37,370 --> 00:11:39,230 four times a week, what would you want to do? 191 00:11:39,510 --> 00:11:43,350 You mentioned that you like to shop and, you know, you're into taking care of 192 00:11:43,350 --> 00:11:45,210 your plants and, you know, girls. 193 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:51,360 I mean, we used to watch all our movies together. We used to, like, you know, 194 00:11:51,420 --> 00:11:58,360 bake things together and, you know, also shop. But we just have two totally 195 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:02,440 different lives now. So are you interested in those kinds of things, 196 00:12:02,460 --> 00:12:07,140 like baking and shopping and not more traditionally feminine activities? 197 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,440 I guess. I mean, I don't know. 198 00:12:11,490 --> 00:12:14,750 Well, you don't have to say yes. If you're not, you can say no. And if you 199 00:12:14,750 --> 00:12:18,630 are, you can say yes. You could give it a shot every once in a while and then, 200 00:12:18,670 --> 00:12:19,670 you know. 201 00:12:19,750 --> 00:12:22,830 Well, are you really going to give it a shot is the thing? Because you're going 202 00:12:22,830 --> 00:12:26,490 to say that you will and you're going to make up an excuse to get out of it. 203 00:12:26,710 --> 00:12:27,710 It's another thing. 204 00:12:28,170 --> 00:12:32,770 You could work something out and, I don't know, we find a new place together 205 00:12:32,770 --> 00:12:34,710 and, well. 206 00:12:36,390 --> 00:12:39,570 Are the two of you familiar with something called a Rorschach test? 207 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,740 I don't think so. No? Maybe? 208 00:12:44,420 --> 00:12:45,420 Possibly. 209 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:51,760 So what it is, it's a kind of way to sort of access your own subconscious and 210 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,960 communicate that back to a therapist like myself. 211 00:12:56,580 --> 00:12:57,600 And it's real easy. 212 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,660 It's basically like a game, except there's no way to lose. 213 00:13:02,660 --> 00:13:04,020 There's no wrong answers. 214 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:06,820 This is what it is. 215 00:13:07,680 --> 00:13:09,840 It's a series of cards. 216 00:13:10,540 --> 00:13:12,420 that have abstract images on them. 217 00:13:12,620 --> 00:13:14,700 Oh, that's cool, huh? 218 00:13:15,380 --> 00:13:20,580 And I would show you one, and you would tell me what it makes you think about. 219 00:13:20,700 --> 00:13:25,080 It can be anything, you know. People see all kinds of things in these images. You 220 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:29,760 can see a stingray, a butterfly, anything, really. 221 00:13:30,020 --> 00:13:33,320 Okay. Yeah, it's kind of fun, right? You want to give it a shot? 222 00:13:33,620 --> 00:13:36,160 You can try it. It's like a mental exercise, I guess. 223 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:37,440 Okay. 224 00:13:37,660 --> 00:13:39,660 Now, let's start with you. Okay. 225 00:13:40,330 --> 00:13:43,290 I'm going to show you an image, and again, no wrong answers. You can tell me 226 00:13:43,290 --> 00:13:44,370 what you see. Okay. 227 00:13:47,070 --> 00:13:48,710 That looks like a rabbit. 228 00:13:49,150 --> 00:13:50,149 A rabbit? 229 00:13:50,150 --> 00:13:51,150 I think so. 230 00:13:51,650 --> 00:13:53,590 Okay. You can see that. 231 00:13:54,830 --> 00:13:55,830 Interesting. 232 00:13:58,130 --> 00:14:00,090 Do three with you. 233 00:14:00,750 --> 00:14:03,090 First right here, and then I'm going to switch to your brother. 234 00:14:03,350 --> 00:14:04,350 Okay. 235 00:14:05,550 --> 00:14:07,890 I feel like that looks like a dog. 236 00:14:08,430 --> 00:14:09,329 Like a dog? 237 00:14:09,330 --> 00:14:10,330 Okay. 238 00:14:11,270 --> 00:14:12,670 Rabbit, the dog. 239 00:14:15,510 --> 00:14:22,010 That looks like a bug. Maybe like a large beetle. 240 00:14:22,510 --> 00:14:24,370 A large beetle? A bug. Okay. 241 00:14:24,870 --> 00:14:26,850 Interesting. So we have all animals. 242 00:14:27,090 --> 00:14:28,090 Yeah. 243 00:14:29,130 --> 00:14:30,490 Elias, are you ready? Okay. 244 00:14:31,290 --> 00:14:32,490 Let's do a scene with you. 245 00:14:33,490 --> 00:14:35,830 Got this one right here. 246 00:14:38,670 --> 00:14:43,790 Looks like a cat. A cat? I can see that. 247 00:14:44,410 --> 00:14:45,410 A cat. 248 00:14:58,550 --> 00:15:00,990 Anything that comes to mind, there's no wrong answer. 249 00:15:01,330 --> 00:15:02,430 Does it look like a splatter? 250 00:15:02,870 --> 00:15:06,390 Yeah. It looks like two rodents. 251 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,320 facing each other two roses facing each other yeah 252 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:17,160 and do one more here 253 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:23,640 two people hugging two people hugging interesting 254 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,400 very interesting 255 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:30,900 so 256 00:15:34,860 --> 00:15:36,160 I'm actually really glad we did that. 257 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:41,460 That was very informative for me. Thank you both for participating. Thank you. 258 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,420 What did you get out of that test? 259 00:15:43,620 --> 00:15:50,400 A lot of your answers were sort 260 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:56,420 of animalistic and seemed to be coming directly from the ego. 261 00:15:58,180 --> 00:16:03,040 Which... So... 262 00:16:04,459 --> 00:16:08,640 Beyond family therapy, one of the things that they do a lot of is sex therapy. 263 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:14,420 And those are kind of more the answers that I would have expected in one of 264 00:16:14,420 --> 00:16:15,420 those sessions. 265 00:16:17,740 --> 00:16:20,360 I would never guess that. 266 00:16:20,580 --> 00:16:25,140 Well, a lot of your issues do seem to have to do with 267 00:16:25,140 --> 00:16:29,400 sexual control. 268 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:32,320 Sort of determining. 269 00:16:32,810 --> 00:16:36,970 whom your brother can date, controls itself. 270 00:16:37,250 --> 00:16:40,030 You mentioned you're not dating currently. 271 00:16:40,530 --> 00:16:45,710 Yeah. Well, I mean, that is an interesting take, but, I mean, you're my 272 00:16:45,710 --> 00:16:47,690 stepbrother. Yeah. 273 00:16:48,070 --> 00:16:52,710 I feel like that is, I don't want you to think a certain way because of that. 274 00:16:52,990 --> 00:16:55,050 Of course not. I mean, we're not related. 275 00:16:56,090 --> 00:17:00,070 Well, I guess that's true, but going back to... 276 00:17:01,100 --> 00:17:07,680 Elias' little mishap in the bedroom with maybe 277 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:13,020 using the wrong name when addressing his lover. 278 00:17:14,940 --> 00:17:18,180 You were very accepting of that when he first brought it up. 279 00:17:18,700 --> 00:17:25,440 Yeah, I mean, we did have an incident before a while back if you'd 280 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,740 be more open to talk about it. 281 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:29,280 Yeah, sure. 282 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,240 So, I mean, we shared a bunk bed when we were much younger. 283 00:17:35,460 --> 00:17:38,040 And I did catch him. 284 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:39,560 You were much younger, like 18? 285 00:17:40,020 --> 00:17:41,140 Yeah, 18. 286 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,500 And we were definitely, you know, we're going to bed. 287 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:50,560 And I heard some noises at night. And I thought someone was, you know, breaking 288 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,460 in. And I went to go check because I was at the top bunk. And I went down the 289 00:17:54,460 --> 00:17:57,780 bottom bunk. And I saw Aaliyah's here. 290 00:17:58,730 --> 00:18:03,650 doing something under the covers, and I thought he was just maybe playing a 291 00:18:03,650 --> 00:18:08,010 video game or maybe doing puzzles, but he wasn't. 292 00:18:08,730 --> 00:18:14,030 He was not, and I think that was an incident that probably made us disperse 293 00:18:14,030 --> 00:18:18,150 from each other a bit more, and he's been very uncomfortable with me ever 294 00:18:18,150 --> 00:18:19,049 since then. 295 00:18:19,050 --> 00:18:20,050 And I'm embarrassed. 296 00:18:20,310 --> 00:18:22,150 I didn't know what to say to you. 297 00:18:22,470 --> 00:18:25,550 Yeah. Are we talking about... 298 00:18:26,210 --> 00:18:32,910 masturbation yeah it was a very not traumatic but it was very a strange 299 00:18:32,910 --> 00:18:36,590 feeling for both of us we didn't know how to come forward from that and I 300 00:18:36,590 --> 00:18:40,810 think that's when you start acting super rebellious towards me and you started 301 00:18:40,810 --> 00:18:46,050 you know making excuses from even seeing me or looking me in the eye to go you 302 00:18:46,050 --> 00:18:50,550 know do stuff together and I was just I was a bit confused from that, Aaliyah, 303 00:18:50,630 --> 00:18:51,630 so I don't know. 304 00:18:51,650 --> 00:18:57,390 Well, since we shared a room for so long, I kind of always saw your panties 305 00:18:57,390 --> 00:19:02,110 and made me feel some type of way when, you know, I wait for you to change. 306 00:19:02,930 --> 00:19:05,790 I kind of just got a little excited. 307 00:19:06,790 --> 00:19:07,870 I mean, it's understandable. 308 00:19:08,090 --> 00:19:12,310 We're of the opposite sex, so I'm not going to blame you on that. But, you 309 00:19:12,310 --> 00:19:15,790 know, I feel like there definitely could have been better ways to communicate to 310 00:19:15,790 --> 00:19:16,790 each other. 311 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,200 Besides our differences, you know, I feel like we definitely could have 312 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:21,200 talked about that more. 313 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:28,140 But, I mean, who am I to say he's in the wrong, you know, because I also haven't 314 00:19:28,140 --> 00:19:29,380 been very communicative myself. 315 00:19:30,820 --> 00:19:33,040 I kind of have a confession to make to you. 316 00:19:33,580 --> 00:19:39,720 Ever since that incident happened, I kind of have been myself, you know, late 317 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:44,620 at night, been, you know, it's okay, you can say it, yeah. 318 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:50,540 I've been kind of touching myself a bit, you know, because of that. And I just 319 00:19:50,540 --> 00:19:53,920 didn't know how to tell anybody. I never told anybody. It's been kind of a 320 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:59,140 secret. And I figured out whenever I would do that, that at the same time 321 00:19:59,140 --> 00:20:04,360 while I was doing it, he was also masturbating. And whenever I would find 322 00:20:04,360 --> 00:20:08,100 out he was masturbating at times, I would go have to excuse myself and go to 323 00:20:08,100 --> 00:20:11,660 my bedroom and go masturbate as well because it was just... 324 00:20:11,980 --> 00:20:16,780 Such a strange feeling. I just, I don't know. I wanted to somehow feel close to 325 00:20:16,780 --> 00:20:23,320 you at the same time from your experiences. So, yeah. So there is a lot 326 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,060 of pent-up sexual frustration, it sounds like. 327 00:20:27,620 --> 00:20:30,080 Would you agree? Is that an accurate assessment? 328 00:20:31,120 --> 00:20:33,440 I mean, is it long to confess? 329 00:20:33,700 --> 00:20:34,780 Oh, there's a camera. 330 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:37,140 Well, I mean, it's simple. 331 00:20:40,469 --> 00:20:45,050 Okay. Well, yeah, I guess it's kind of like, on both ends, I guess it's safe to 332 00:20:45,050 --> 00:20:49,210 say we both have their sexual tension and attraction. 333 00:20:49,630 --> 00:20:52,270 Yeah, just a little bit here and there, you know. 334 00:20:53,170 --> 00:20:54,170 That's interesting. 335 00:20:54,990 --> 00:20:59,630 How does that make you feel, knowing that you're in that way? It makes me 336 00:20:59,630 --> 00:21:03,030 kind of shocked. You could have told me this, too, and we could have resorted 337 00:21:03,030 --> 00:21:04,030 together. 338 00:21:04,670 --> 00:21:06,430 We can be comfortable with each other. 339 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:12,180 I guess we both have a really large wall built up just from being scared about 340 00:21:12,180 --> 00:21:13,460 what the other one's going to say. 341 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:18,720 So embarrassing for me to get those things. Yeah, even right now it's a bit 342 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:23,300 humiliating. But, I mean, I feel like I had to get off my chest anyway, one way 343 00:21:23,300 --> 00:21:24,300 or another. 344 00:21:24,340 --> 00:21:29,200 So I just don't know how to move forward from here, hearing about all this. 345 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:36,000 Well, before we were talking about maybe spending some more time together and... 346 00:21:36,490 --> 00:21:43,390 You said that you were open to maybe a shorter but more intense interview with 347 00:21:43,390 --> 00:21:47,250 your brother to get the emotional fix that you need. Yeah, exactly. 348 00:21:47,970 --> 00:21:51,790 I would love some kind of bond between us so we could spend more time together 349 00:21:51,790 --> 00:21:55,970 before I leave or also have something to come back to when I do, you know? 350 00:21:56,430 --> 00:22:00,150 How do you two feel about mutual masturbation? 351 00:22:00,710 --> 00:22:02,970 What does that mean specifically? 352 00:22:03,570 --> 00:22:05,110 Well, you know, simply... 353 00:22:05,590 --> 00:22:10,970 Basically, we're already doing it. You would be pleasing yourselves, but 354 00:22:10,970 --> 00:22:15,290 together more openly. It sounds like you two are still sharing a room. 355 00:22:16,310 --> 00:22:19,090 Yeah, until she leaves, we've kind of just been in the same room. 356 00:22:20,190 --> 00:22:21,190 Right. 357 00:22:21,910 --> 00:22:26,150 Well, you know, it doesn't have to be there. 358 00:22:26,370 --> 00:22:30,790 If you two have privacy in other rooms of the house, you can certainly explore 359 00:22:30,790 --> 00:22:31,790 there. 360 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:40,760 You know, if you two are fighting a sort of closeness, I can see that translating 361 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:41,920 to fighting each other. 362 00:22:42,700 --> 00:22:48,500 When really maybe you're fighting against some outdated mores that 363 00:22:48,500 --> 00:22:51,740 aren't applicable to your specific situation. 364 00:22:53,340 --> 00:22:59,160 And again, it sounds like you're already practicing mutual masturbation just with 365 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,240 that wall between the two of you. And I think that would be a great way to break 366 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:03,240 down. 367 00:23:03,290 --> 00:23:06,510 The wall between you two when it comes to communication is to break down that 368 00:23:06,510 --> 00:23:09,130 wall when it comes to sexual expression. 369 00:23:10,430 --> 00:23:11,430 Yeah. 370 00:23:12,330 --> 00:23:17,570 We wouldn't really even be changing that much, actually. You know, it would just 371 00:23:17,570 --> 00:23:22,410 be an awareness, which sounds like we've already breached. 372 00:23:22,670 --> 00:23:27,650 Do you mean, like, masturbating, like, in the same room? Like, knowingly with 373 00:23:27,650 --> 00:23:31,490 each other? Yeah, together or, you know, one of you at a time, whoever feels... 374 00:23:31,790 --> 00:23:32,890 move to do so. 375 00:23:33,530 --> 00:23:35,850 When's the last time that the two of you saw each other naked? 376 00:23:37,230 --> 00:23:41,590 That was a long time ago. I feel like since we've been growing up, I don't 377 00:23:41,590 --> 00:23:42,590 think we've done that. 378 00:23:42,930 --> 00:23:47,290 Maybe just you sure list, but that was just, you know, for changing reasons. 379 00:23:48,210 --> 00:23:51,930 Yeah. And she takes forever to change in the room, so. 380 00:23:52,610 --> 00:23:54,970 Yeah, so he kind of has to go change elsewhere. 381 00:23:55,710 --> 00:23:57,910 How would you two feel about... 382 00:23:58,830 --> 00:24:03,170 You're just exposing yourself now, maybe getting naked. 383 00:24:05,250 --> 00:24:08,570 If you're cool with it, I feel like we should trust her. 384 00:24:10,330 --> 00:24:14,690 As long as you're okay with it, too. Maybe I could possibly get more 385 00:24:14,690 --> 00:24:15,690 comfortable with that. 386 00:24:16,310 --> 00:24:18,010 I think it's worth a shot. 387 00:24:18,890 --> 00:24:23,710 And if it doesn't work, we can move on to something else. And if it does work, 388 00:24:23,910 --> 00:24:24,910 great. 389 00:24:25,710 --> 00:24:26,710 Okay. 390 00:24:31,010 --> 00:24:34,390 Okay. Sounds like you're volunteering to go first. 391 00:24:36,010 --> 00:24:37,010 Okay. 392 00:24:39,930 --> 00:24:42,850 I'm okay with it if you're okay with it. 393 00:24:43,070 --> 00:24:43,869 I am. 394 00:24:43,870 --> 00:24:45,890 Are you okay with it? 395 00:24:47,050 --> 00:24:48,650 I'll work with it, yes. 396 00:24:59,350 --> 00:25:02,270 I don't know. I feel really, I feel like it's going to be really embarrassing. 397 00:25:02,570 --> 00:25:06,450 I mean, you know, as a girl, it's not really a big deal. You know, it's just, 398 00:25:06,470 --> 00:25:08,110 it's just skin. 399 00:25:08,370 --> 00:25:11,370 Oh, are you sure about that? I mean, I don't know if we're supposed to be 400 00:25:11,370 --> 00:25:13,230 seeing all this. 401 00:25:13,730 --> 00:25:17,210 You know, whatever horrible thing is going to happen has already happened. 402 00:25:17,350 --> 00:25:18,350 It's fine. 403 00:25:18,710 --> 00:25:22,870 Okay. I mean, I guess it does make you feel a little bit more comfortable. 404 00:25:23,170 --> 00:25:24,170 Oh, does it? 405 00:25:25,790 --> 00:25:27,450 Not too vulnerable, I guess. 406 00:25:27,850 --> 00:25:28,850 Mm-hmm. 407 00:25:29,030 --> 00:25:31,970 Oh, my God, I love your bra. That's so pretty. 408 00:25:32,310 --> 00:25:34,990 Yeah, thank you. Do I have to take it off, too? 409 00:25:35,430 --> 00:25:39,330 Although it is sheer, I would say, you know, your brother's not wearing a bra, 410 00:25:39,490 --> 00:25:40,930 so I would say it's just there. 411 00:25:41,710 --> 00:25:42,710 Are you sure? 412 00:25:43,010 --> 00:25:46,770 Yes. I'm pretty sure. Okay. And if you don't like it, you can always just put 413 00:25:46,770 --> 00:25:47,770 it back on. 414 00:25:47,810 --> 00:25:48,810 Okay. 415 00:25:51,890 --> 00:25:54,810 It's the first time seeing me like this. 416 00:25:57,420 --> 00:25:59,700 We can go to the next one now. 417 00:26:00,140 --> 00:26:02,260 Do you both want to stand up? 418 00:26:02,660 --> 00:26:03,660 Okay. 419 00:26:06,580 --> 00:26:07,580 Okay. 420 00:26:10,060 --> 00:26:13,540 It feels so funny you do it for somebody else, you know. 421 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,420 It's something I haven't seen before. 422 00:26:17,580 --> 00:26:19,880 It's really great for you and your brother to be more intimate. 423 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:23,400 Okay. 424 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:25,860 I'll take these off now. 425 00:26:26,860 --> 00:26:28,820 Wife is ready to go. Sorry. 426 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:31,640 Okay. 427 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,540 Perfectly natural response. 428 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:35,240 Yeah. 429 00:26:37,420 --> 00:26:38,980 And there we go. 430 00:26:41,540 --> 00:26:42,540 Thank you. 431 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:47,900 I feel a little drained still, you know. What should we do now? 432 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,680 What can the two of you stand facing each other for me? 433 00:26:51,260 --> 00:26:52,260 Okay. 434 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,340 Science might be weird. 435 00:26:54,700 --> 00:26:55,700 Nope. 436 00:26:57,100 --> 00:26:59,600 Can I ask you to put your hands down at your side? 437 00:26:59,820 --> 00:27:01,320 Okay. Good. 438 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,660 I want you both to look at each other's eyes. 439 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,080 Nice deep breaths. 440 00:27:11,620 --> 00:27:12,620 Good. 441 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,000 Now, Albie. 442 00:27:18,620 --> 00:27:25,200 Yeah. I would like you to tell your father directly what it is that you want 443 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,200 from him. 444 00:27:30,030 --> 00:27:32,670 I guess I just want to be more close to you, you know? 445 00:27:33,010 --> 00:27:35,650 Whatever it is, to be more close, I'll do it. 446 00:27:36,270 --> 00:27:37,270 You know? 447 00:27:38,230 --> 00:27:39,330 That's really sweet. 448 00:27:39,630 --> 00:27:41,390 Can you thank your sister for sharing with you? 449 00:27:41,630 --> 00:27:42,630 Thank you. 450 00:27:42,770 --> 00:27:44,910 You're welcome. 451 00:27:48,490 --> 00:27:53,370 Elias, is there something you want to say to your sister, maybe, about what 452 00:27:53,370 --> 00:27:55,070 you're hoping for, what you want? 453 00:27:55,690 --> 00:27:58,630 I'd love for us to have fun again, too. 454 00:28:00,260 --> 00:28:04,120 find out ways to make each other feel good. 455 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:05,840 Yeah, definitely. 456 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:07,660 I want that too. 457 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:09,520 Awesome. 458 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:10,840 Thank you. 459 00:28:11,420 --> 00:28:15,320 I appreciate that. 460 00:28:16,020 --> 00:28:18,880 You're just kind of being open to it and sharing. 461 00:28:19,220 --> 00:28:21,480 Yeah, it does feel really nice. 462 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:28,220 How do you two feel about maybe trying some of that mutual masturbation play 463 00:28:28,220 --> 00:28:29,220 that we talked about? 464 00:28:29,899 --> 00:28:31,920 Like, here, right now? 465 00:28:32,180 --> 00:28:33,620 Yeah. Have a seat. 466 00:28:34,060 --> 00:28:35,860 Um, okay. 467 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:37,640 Okay. 468 00:28:37,980 --> 00:28:41,760 You could try. 469 00:28:42,020 --> 00:28:45,480 I mean, I don't know if it's going to be a little weird at first. 470 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:46,839 I don't know. 471 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:53,800 The purpose of therapy is to just identify problems and then come up with 472 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:58,360 cognitive and behavioral responses to address those issues. 473 00:28:59,199 --> 00:29:03,080 And then to implement them. And I feel like we're coming a really long way. 474 00:29:03,420 --> 00:29:04,480 And we can all adjust. 475 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,080 We're right at that last step. We're going to try implementing these 476 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,500 behaviors and see how it feels, how it works. 477 00:29:12,220 --> 00:29:13,220 Yeah, definitely. 478 00:29:13,420 --> 00:29:15,180 I feel like it would be a good exercise. 479 00:29:16,540 --> 00:29:20,140 I feel like I'm a little nervous still, you know. 480 00:29:20,980 --> 00:29:24,060 Well, is there anything that you think of that would make you feel less 481 00:29:24,060 --> 00:29:25,049 nervous? 482 00:29:25,050 --> 00:29:29,830 I mean, it doesn't make me feel as nervous when you're doing it, so I feel 483 00:29:29,830 --> 00:29:31,170 like it's a bit of a comfort. 484 00:29:31,410 --> 00:29:32,410 Yeah. 485 00:29:33,570 --> 00:29:34,590 It's okay to relax. 486 00:29:35,030 --> 00:29:37,150 It's okay to put your arms around each other. 487 00:29:38,070 --> 00:29:39,470 It doesn't get comfortable. 488 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,300 It does feel nice. 489 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,660 It actually feels way better doing it with you. 490 00:29:58,940 --> 00:30:02,420 Yeah, I feel like we're feeling a bit more close to each other. 491 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,860 I want you to just, like, both relax and enjoy it. 492 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,660 It's all about being comfortable and sharing yourself completely. 493 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,160 Mm-hmm. 494 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,540 Be a little bit closer. 495 00:30:17,290 --> 00:30:18,290 How do you feel? 496 00:30:18,530 --> 00:30:22,310 Very tolerant, the way you're letting it touch your breasts a little bit. 497 00:30:22,630 --> 00:30:23,630 Yeah. 498 00:30:24,730 --> 00:30:27,190 Does that feel all right? Is that pleasant for you as well? 499 00:30:27,490 --> 00:30:29,770 Yeah, it does feel very nice. 500 00:30:33,430 --> 00:30:37,190 Can you tell your brother that you appreciate it, that you're enjoying it, 501 00:30:37,250 --> 00:30:38,590 that it's okay that you're doing it? 502 00:30:39,050 --> 00:30:42,690 Thank you for enjoying this moment with me. Of course. 503 00:30:45,930 --> 00:30:49,090 If there's anything you'd like to say to your sister, she's really opening up. 504 00:30:49,390 --> 00:30:54,170 Thank you for being willing to do this with me. Yeah. I feel like we're getting 505 00:30:54,170 --> 00:30:54,949 way closer. 506 00:30:54,950 --> 00:30:59,670 Yeah, definitely. I feel like it might have been something we didn't think 507 00:30:59,670 --> 00:31:00,670 about. 508 00:31:01,010 --> 00:31:03,750 You're so beautiful. I'm glad that you feel really comfortable. 509 00:31:04,410 --> 00:31:05,410 Yeah. 510 00:31:05,730 --> 00:31:10,030 I hope that you'll get more comfortable being honest with each other, sharing 511 00:31:10,030 --> 00:31:12,190 those impulses, acting on them. 512 00:31:12,770 --> 00:31:13,910 Yeah. Yeah. 513 00:31:15,050 --> 00:31:18,830 Sort of building that relationship back up again, finding things that you two 514 00:31:18,830 --> 00:31:21,530 can do together that will be enjoyable for both of you. 515 00:31:21,750 --> 00:31:22,750 Yeah. 516 00:31:24,130 --> 00:31:27,150 Let down those barriers because they are artificial. 517 00:31:31,950 --> 00:31:32,950 Wonderful. 518 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,340 It does feel really nice. 519 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:54,440 How did you feel about sort of swapping? Like Penelope, you 520 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:59,260 would help a lot if you would stimulate your sister. How did you feel about 521 00:31:59,260 --> 00:32:01,100 that? You're okay with that? 522 00:32:03,220 --> 00:32:05,780 Do really gently, you know. Okay. 523 00:32:06,060 --> 00:32:09,780 You know what? That's great. That's a perfect response, you know. 524 00:32:10,190 --> 00:32:14,190 Telling what you like, how to do it. And then Elias, the more responsive you are 525 00:32:14,190 --> 00:32:18,070 to her requests, the more she's going to trust you. You're going to start 526 00:32:18,070 --> 00:32:19,830 building these connections back up. 527 00:32:21,170 --> 00:32:22,170 Okay. 528 00:32:22,550 --> 00:32:25,370 And Elias, you can tell her what to do too, you know. 529 00:32:36,940 --> 00:32:39,580 I would have never thought this would happen between us. 530 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:43,900 Trust me. 531 00:32:47,580 --> 00:32:51,820 You two are getting along so much better than you were, you know, even just 15 532 00:32:51,820 --> 00:32:52,739 minutes ago. 533 00:32:52,740 --> 00:32:55,940 Yeah, I feel like this is much better for us, right? 534 00:32:56,300 --> 00:33:02,600 Yeah, even though it's different, but, you know, I feel like it's definitely 535 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:03,600 doable. 536 00:33:04,290 --> 00:33:08,290 What we want is more communication, not less communication. 537 00:33:09,010 --> 00:33:10,330 That feels good. 538 00:33:10,610 --> 00:33:12,170 Lower, faster. 539 00:33:13,110 --> 00:33:14,770 You want me to go faster? 540 00:33:15,130 --> 00:33:16,130 You're doing so good. 541 00:33:17,810 --> 00:33:21,330 Very good. Get it wet. 542 00:33:21,770 --> 00:33:23,550 Get some testicles. 543 00:33:23,950 --> 00:33:25,490 Get your finger knees lower. 544 00:33:27,310 --> 00:33:31,830 Anything that you two feel like saying, communicating. 545 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,620 I feel really good at the way you're doing it. 546 00:33:37,340 --> 00:33:39,520 I love the way you're touching me. 547 00:33:40,860 --> 00:33:41,860 That's good. 548 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:43,980 I'm hoping that you can be the better. 549 00:33:44,780 --> 00:33:48,560 I want you to start communicating more and saying what you actually mean. 550 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:49,800 Yeah. 551 00:33:50,860 --> 00:33:54,700 I love the way you're stroking me. Yeah. 552 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,600 That feels really good. 553 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,200 I feel like a lot of those buttons can be avoided if the two of you just open 554 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:02,640 up and say what you want. 555 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:08,239 Yeah. I feel like I'm definitely getting much better. 556 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:23,320 Excellent. 557 00:34:28,860 --> 00:34:30,380 That's exactly what I like to do. 558 00:34:32,170 --> 00:34:36,270 Do you feel like this is a good exercise for us? I think it is a good exercise 559 00:34:36,270 --> 00:34:37,370 for both of you. 560 00:34:38,170 --> 00:34:44,489 I think that you two are going to be coming much closer together. 561 00:34:44,989 --> 00:34:50,110 I think there's going to be fewer miscommunications and a lot less 562 00:34:50,110 --> 00:34:51,110 resentment. 563 00:34:51,550 --> 00:34:52,830 Miscommunication breeds resentment. 564 00:34:53,550 --> 00:34:54,550 Yeah. 565 00:35:00,780 --> 00:35:02,340 Yeah, it does feel really good. 566 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:12,600 That's wonderful. 567 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:25,300 You really saw that sexual frustration. Yeah, I feel like I'm finally doing a 568 00:35:25,300 --> 00:35:26,300 much better job. 569 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:27,600 Yeah. 570 00:35:44,620 --> 00:35:46,140 Take some time to focus on each other. 571 00:36:09,670 --> 00:36:13,990 Yeah, it's definitely a really good way of bonding back together, right? 572 00:36:41,340 --> 00:36:43,480 I'm so proud of both of you. 573 00:36:43,860 --> 00:36:48,100 I feel like we're bonding now. Yeah, I feel like it's much better this way. 574 00:36:48,820 --> 00:36:51,900 I didn't know this was a good way to bond with both of us, right? 575 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:20,320 together. 576 00:37:26,060 --> 00:37:27,620 Does that feel good? 577 00:37:28,020 --> 00:37:29,020 It feels so good. 578 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:30,280 Yeah, 579 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,540 it feels really good. 580 00:37:33,620 --> 00:37:39,540 This is typically how the both of you usually masturbate. Yeah. The way he's 581 00:37:39,540 --> 00:37:41,500 doing it is how I always masturbate. 582 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:11,380 Likely to make you come. 583 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,700 I feel like I really needed that from you. 584 00:38:43,020 --> 00:38:47,240 Me too. Thank you, brother, for doing that for me. Thank you. Thank you. 585 00:38:47,380 --> 00:38:48,560 You're making me feel good. 586 00:38:49,740 --> 00:38:51,000 It's a thing for me. 587 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,380 Almost a thing. 588 00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,860 Do you think it's something else that you might enjoy, Elias, that might get 589 00:39:00,860 --> 00:39:02,000 you where you want to go? 590 00:39:02,980 --> 00:39:04,180 I don't know. 591 00:39:04,660 --> 00:39:06,380 Do you think that's a bit strange? 592 00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:08,680 You know, getting a little bit more... 593 00:39:24,740 --> 00:39:27,000 I didn't know this was going to happen. 594 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:28,480 Is this normal? 595 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,800 I mean, do you think we could do it? 596 00:39:35,060 --> 00:39:39,820 Oh my gosh, Elias, I didn't know you were going to do this. 597 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:44,760 That was so good. 598 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,040 Oh, my gosh. 599 00:39:48,060 --> 00:39:49,500 Oh, fuck. 600 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,160 Is this part of the therapy? 601 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:54,480 No. 602 00:39:55,300 --> 00:39:57,280 You asked if I thought it was turning down. 603 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,460 No, really, I'm not going to ask you to do anything that I wouldn't be willing 604 00:40:01,460 --> 00:40:02,940 to do myself in that situation. 605 00:40:03,380 --> 00:40:07,260 Yeah, but, I mean, I want you to feel that everything is nice and natural. 606 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:08,920 Yeah. 607 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,060 Oh, my mom. 608 00:40:13,510 --> 00:40:14,510 Yeah, 609 00:40:15,750 --> 00:40:20,990 I get that, but I don't know. I don't know how this makes me feel, to be 610 00:40:20,990 --> 00:40:21,990 honest. 611 00:40:25,690 --> 00:40:26,690 Yeah, 612 00:40:30,770 --> 00:40:36,150 I am. 613 00:40:36,370 --> 00:40:37,750 Of course I am. 614 00:40:38,770 --> 00:40:41,790 Another girl's not supposed to make you feel good like that. 615 00:40:42,570 --> 00:40:45,250 It's supposed to be, like, a little bit frustrating for you. 616 00:40:45,990 --> 00:40:52,670 Just a little bit, but... I know I love Elias, and I want him to be happy, 617 00:40:52,810 --> 00:40:58,050 but... Well, there's nothing wrong with you being happy. 618 00:40:58,590 --> 00:41:00,150 How do you feel about this, then? 619 00:41:02,810 --> 00:41:06,710 Oh, Elias, you're... Oh, I didn't think to see you like that. 620 00:41:12,940 --> 00:41:14,480 Looks like you can enjoy it, too. 621 00:41:15,900 --> 00:41:17,900 That's true. There's no reason you can't. 622 00:41:18,300 --> 00:41:21,520 Can you tell your brother what you'd like to do? Can you listen to me? 623 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:23,299 I don't know. 624 00:41:23,300 --> 00:41:25,580 Can it be my turn? Can I try it, too? 625 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,040 Yes. Is that okay? 626 00:41:27,380 --> 00:41:28,380 Yes, it is. 627 00:41:30,460 --> 00:41:32,380 Good. You should get very comfortable. 628 00:41:32,660 --> 00:41:38,020 There we go. 629 00:41:49,570 --> 00:41:54,890 Oh my god, I have so much sweat for you. 630 00:41:59,550 --> 00:42:02,250 My best friend. 631 00:42:24,740 --> 00:42:30,280 Oh my gosh, I didn't think you were going to be this big in my mouth. 632 00:43:01,130 --> 00:43:02,630 Oh, my goodness. 633 00:43:03,270 --> 00:43:07,130 Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. 634 00:43:07,410 --> 00:43:08,410 Oh, 635 00:43:09,370 --> 00:43:10,530 my goodness. 636 00:43:11,030 --> 00:43:12,590 Oh, my goodness. 637 00:43:15,470 --> 00:43:17,370 Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. 638 00:43:17,950 --> 00:43:18,950 Oh, 639 00:43:20,050 --> 00:43:24,170 my goodness. 640 00:43:57,870 --> 00:43:59,170 Oh my god, there's so much spit. 641 00:43:59,590 --> 00:44:00,450 I feel 642 00:44:00,450 --> 00:44:13,030 like 643 00:44:13,030 --> 00:44:18,050 we're doing a much better job for sure. 644 00:44:45,260 --> 00:44:48,540 As long as you two are communicating, there's no wrong answer for what you're 645 00:44:48,540 --> 00:44:49,540 doing. 646 00:44:52,740 --> 00:44:56,540 Yeah, I feel like this is super fun for the both of us. That was very 647 00:44:56,540 --> 00:44:57,540 impressive. 648 00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,460 For me, I was like, oh my. 649 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:02,740 She's done this before. 650 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,360 Not with him yet. 651 00:45:06,140 --> 00:45:07,140 Oh my God. 652 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,480 That's so good. Yeah. 653 00:45:20,490 --> 00:45:23,650 if I, like, try it a little bit? Yeah, of course. 654 00:45:24,250 --> 00:45:25,830 Are you sure? 655 00:45:26,070 --> 00:45:27,070 Yeah. 656 00:45:27,510 --> 00:45:29,210 What would you like for me to do? 657 00:45:30,490 --> 00:45:33,690 I think that your talk would feel absolutely amazing. 658 00:45:34,530 --> 00:45:40,630 Okay. Are you okay with this? Of course. I mean, I have to learn that I want him 659 00:45:40,630 --> 00:45:43,330 to be happy, and I want him to feel good, too. 660 00:45:43,530 --> 00:45:45,130 That's very mature attitude. 661 00:45:45,510 --> 00:45:46,510 That's very interesting. 662 00:45:59,210 --> 00:46:00,810 Does that feel good for you? Yeah. 663 00:46:06,530 --> 00:46:11,130 Oh my gosh. 664 00:46:12,030 --> 00:46:13,610 It's going inside of her. 665 00:46:15,850 --> 00:46:21,510 Oh my gosh. 666 00:46:24,390 --> 00:46:26,290 Does that feel good for you, brother? 667 00:46:26,530 --> 00:46:27,530 Yeah. 668 00:46:29,240 --> 00:46:30,240 Yeah. 669 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:33,680 Oh, my God. 670 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:45,880 Wow, 671 00:46:51,460 --> 00:46:52,480 you're really big. 672 00:46:53,620 --> 00:46:57,620 I can't believe it's going perfectly in and out of there like that. 673 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,360 Let me help you out. 674 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:05,840 I 675 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:13,640 thought 676 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:20,240 that was what you were doing. You're like, oh, hi. 677 00:47:33,610 --> 00:47:34,368 I'm really jealous. 678 00:47:34,370 --> 00:47:35,630 I wish that was me, too. 679 00:47:36,030 --> 00:47:37,530 Are you? Yeah. 680 00:47:39,430 --> 00:47:40,810 Oh, my God. 681 00:47:41,590 --> 00:47:43,970 Do you want to encourage? 682 00:47:44,410 --> 00:47:45,650 Oh, my God. 683 00:47:46,550 --> 00:47:48,070 Those new behaviors. 684 00:47:48,450 --> 00:47:49,450 Yeah. 685 00:47:49,890 --> 00:47:52,630 Are you enjoying yourself? Yeah. 686 00:47:54,750 --> 00:47:58,890 I can tell you're enjoying yourself in here. 687 00:48:10,090 --> 00:48:11,830 Let me help you out here. 688 00:48:12,470 --> 00:48:14,870 Oh, my God. That's so good. 689 00:48:16,310 --> 00:48:18,870 Yeah. Oh, my God. That's so good. 690 00:48:19,850 --> 00:48:20,850 Yeah. 691 00:48:21,510 --> 00:48:22,850 Oh, my God. 692 00:48:28,290 --> 00:48:31,050 I love that you helped me, Michael. This is so good. 693 00:48:39,370 --> 00:48:40,490 Oh, yeah? 694 00:48:40,710 --> 00:48:43,890 Yeah. Oh, yeah. I feel like... Oh, fuck. 695 00:48:44,410 --> 00:48:45,510 Oh, yeah. 696 00:48:47,330 --> 00:48:49,790 Does it make you feel good? 697 00:48:51,470 --> 00:48:54,550 I want to try that, too. 698 00:48:54,950 --> 00:48:56,450 You feel that good? 699 00:49:00,810 --> 00:49:01,870 Can I taste it too? 700 00:49:02,230 --> 00:49:03,230 Yeah, sure. 701 00:49:05,150 --> 00:49:08,790 Oh my God. 702 00:49:11,190 --> 00:49:13,050 Do you want to try eating it too? 703 00:49:13,370 --> 00:49:14,370 Yeah. 704 00:49:18,870 --> 00:49:21,930 How did that feel? 705 00:49:22,270 --> 00:49:23,129 I feel good. 706 00:49:23,130 --> 00:49:26,050 I feel left out. I want to try something too. 707 00:49:34,490 --> 00:49:37,230 Oh, this does feel so good. 708 00:49:38,890 --> 00:49:39,890 Yeah. 709 00:50:03,430 --> 00:50:06,230 I feel 710 00:50:06,230 --> 00:50:13,130 so good. I 711 00:50:13,130 --> 00:50:14,770 feel so good. 712 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:35,840 Of course. 713 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:40,760 I didn't think it was too good to not share. That's very, very funny. 714 00:51:11,259 --> 00:51:17,880 I feel so good, huh? 715 00:51:18,180 --> 00:51:19,180 Yeah. 716 00:51:22,860 --> 00:51:24,040 Oh, Jesus. 717 00:51:25,740 --> 00:51:26,740 Oh, 718 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:34,560 my God. Oh, my 719 00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:35,560 God. Oh, my God. 720 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,540 Oh, my God, yeah. 721 00:51:49,740 --> 00:51:52,980 Oh, my God. Yeah, you keep making her feel good. 722 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:54,200 Oh, yeah. 723 00:52:14,090 --> 00:52:15,210 Oh, wow. 724 00:52:16,310 --> 00:52:17,330 Oh, wow. 725 00:52:20,650 --> 00:52:21,930 Oh, my God. 726 00:52:36,010 --> 00:52:37,010 Let me help you. 727 00:52:41,730 --> 00:52:43,410 You're doing so good, bro. 728 00:52:45,530 --> 00:52:49,730 I think you're making her feel really good. 729 00:52:50,290 --> 00:52:51,450 Oh, my God. 730 00:52:54,330 --> 00:52:55,330 Oh, my God. 731 00:52:58,090 --> 00:52:59,090 Oh, my God. 732 00:52:59,550 --> 00:53:00,550 Oh, 733 00:53:00,930 --> 00:53:01,629 my God. 734 00:53:01,630 --> 00:53:02,630 Oh, my God. 735 00:53:02,830 --> 00:53:03,830 Oh, 736 00:53:04,430 --> 00:53:05,430 my God. 737 00:53:06,910 --> 00:53:07,910 Oh, God. 738 00:53:08,110 --> 00:53:10,010 Yeah. Oh, my God. Oh, 739 00:53:12,450 --> 00:53:13,450 my God. 740 00:53:13,550 --> 00:53:14,550 Oh, 741 00:53:15,350 --> 00:53:16,690 my God. You're fucking touching it. Yeah. 742 00:53:17,610 --> 00:53:19,930 Oh, my God. Yeah. Keep going. 743 00:53:20,770 --> 00:53:22,410 Make her come again, too. 744 00:53:23,590 --> 00:53:25,390 You're doing so good for us. 745 00:53:26,370 --> 00:53:27,730 It's the least we could do. 746 00:53:29,690 --> 00:53:31,670 Oh, yeah. 747 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,880 Oh, yeah, good for you. 748 00:53:47,860 --> 00:53:48,860 Yeah. 749 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:54,760 You're doing so good. 750 00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:02,580 Oh, my God. 751 00:54:03,740 --> 00:54:08,220 Oh, my God. Oh, fuck. 752 00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:09,600 Oh, sorry. 753 00:54:20,509 --> 00:54:23,790 Oh, my God. Oh, 754 00:54:29,390 --> 00:54:30,390 my God. 755 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:47,360 Oh my God, it's just, I feel so bad. I want to try it for myself. 756 00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,280 Can it be my thing too? 757 00:56:20,330 --> 00:56:22,090 I want you to feel what I'm feeling. 758 00:56:55,830 --> 00:56:56,830 Oh my god, 759 00:56:58,470 --> 00:57:00,170 it feels like he's going to have a hot seat. 760 00:57:20,020 --> 00:57:21,020 Oh, my God. 761 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:24,000 Oh, 762 00:57:32,940 --> 00:57:34,560 my God. 763 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:48,340 I'm drinking that cock off inside of her. Oh, fuck. Oh, my God. 764 00:57:48,940 --> 00:57:50,120 Oh, yeah. 765 00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:53,600 Oh, yeah. 766 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,860 Oh, my God. 767 00:57:57,860 --> 00:57:59,540 Oh, my God. 768 00:57:59,900 --> 00:58:02,620 Oh, my God. Oh, my God. 769 00:58:16,180 --> 00:58:16,780 Oh, my 770 00:58:16,780 --> 00:58:38,800 God. 771 00:58:53,099 --> 00:58:55,000 Oh my God. 772 00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:56,540 Oh my God. 773 00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:32,260 Oh, my God. 774 00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:35,760 Oh, my God, yes. 775 00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,260 Oh, yes, I'm going to go. 776 00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,340 Oh, my God. 777 00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:57,040 It feels so good having all of my brothers come to my face. 778 00:59:57,820 --> 01:00:03,320 I'm so happy that you're open to it. Well, you know, there's a... 779 01:00:04,310 --> 01:00:08,350 There's a restroom down the hall if the two of you would like to go clean up a 780 01:00:08,350 --> 01:00:12,710 little bit. I'd also like to schedule another appointment with you. Oh, I'm so 781 01:00:12,710 --> 01:00:15,050 glad. I can just follow the email. 782 01:00:15,330 --> 01:00:16,330 Yeah, of course. 783 01:00:16,550 --> 01:00:20,130 I'd love to do this more often. Yeah, two days are great for me, but we'll 784 01:00:20,130 --> 01:00:21,130 figure it out. 59019

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