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"Raiders
of the Lost Ark"
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introduced Indiana
Jones to the world.
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The audience screams
and goes crazy.
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Harrison Ford had
taken a gun to a knife fight
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and came out smelling of roses.
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Yes, you're
a man of many talents.
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Harrison
Ford had a launchpad
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and promptly jumped
into the future.
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I'm Deckard, Blade Runner.
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Only to go backwards.
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People didn't
really understand it.
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You people wouldn't believe.
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Not
merely futuristic,
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"Blade Runner" proved
to be ahead of its time,
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ahead of the critics, and
ahead of its audience.
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Sort of bombed.
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I was devastated.
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Embarrassing.
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George
Lucas's next project
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was to span a decade...
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He wasn't gonna do
anything for 10 years.
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...of sweet nothing.
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What the...?
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Lucas was shutting down.
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He asked me to shut
the production office
down, which I did.
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What am I doing here?
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He says, "We're doing nothing."
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I have a very bad
feeling about this.
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Much
like "Star Wars,"
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George conceived "Indiana
Jones" as a trilogy.
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We know there's going to be
three "Indiana Jones" pictures
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'cause George has said that.
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But was Harrison
Ford on the same page?
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Harrison has some questions.
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{\an8}Having
shut down Lucasfilm
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{\an8}for the foreseeable future...
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It's hard when part
of the team leaves.
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Of course it is.
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Next
"Indiana Jones" film
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would have to find a new home.
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We think we can handle
anything, don't we?
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And a new voice.
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Let me die.
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It became a controversy.
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But was Indy still
speaking the same language?
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Exhibitors are calling saying,
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"Kids are peeing
in their seats."
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Following
the explosion
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of a bomb called "Blade Runner,"
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{\an8}Harrison Ford's career appeared
to suffer collateral damage.
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{\an8}I said, "If you
had three words,
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{\an8}how would you describe your
experience on 'Blade Runner'?"
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{\an8}And Harrison Ford
said, "A total bitch."
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While Harrison was
dying at the box office...
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Finish.
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Steven
Spielberg's career
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also had a brush with death.
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All
three were killed
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when a helicopter crashed,
knocked out of control by debris
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from a special
effects explosion.
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John Landis
was sued
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over the "Twilight
Zone" accident.
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Kick the can.
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And
Spielberg's contribution
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to the same movie was panned.
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Oh my God.
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George Lucas's
problems were more offscreen
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and definitely off script.
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{\an8}They were always
around together.
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{\an8}So I guess when the news broke,
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everybody was
pretty sad about it.
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Marcia and George
had told stories together.
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Someone who loves you.
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All the while
writing their own fairy tales.
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They were madly in
love with each other.
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{\an8}They were a team.
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{\an8}They were a pair.
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Big surprise.
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Now the
story was ending.
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{\an8}I think he told people
that I had an affair.
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It wasn't true.
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When I left George,
he was very angry.
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He didn't want this
separation or the divorce,
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and he never much validated
anything I ever did.
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That's all I'm gonna
say about George
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'cause he is a
brilliant film director.
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He's wonderful.
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But the bond
between George Lucas
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and Steven Spielberg
seemed as unshakable
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as it was lucrative.
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They understood each other.
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They understood the
challenges of everything
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from story to production.
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No friction whatsoever.
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Once you direct a movie
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and somebody else directs a
movie, there's an instant bond.
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But it is so hard to do.
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So hard,
Lucas now preferred
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not to sit in the
director's chair.
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George, more so
when he was younger,
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{\an8}he was very shy and
he found it hard
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{\an8}to talk to actors and so forth.
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Almost an introvert,
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doesn't like to
communicate with people,
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even the people
who work for him.
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{\an8}George is more cerebral,
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and Steven has a
very intuitive sense.
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And I think
they get along well
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because they're opposites.
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In Spielberg,
Lucas had an ally
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to embody the director he
no longer wanted to be.
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They both completely can
make an audience come to them.
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Producing
the picture
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that would bring in the next
audience now fell to Steven.
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With Lucasfilm in hibernation,
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Spielberg's Amblin Entertainment
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took the reins for
Indy's next adventure.
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{\an8}Our small company,
we weren't Paramount,
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{\an8}we weren't Universal, we
were Lucasfilm and Amblin.
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Returning executives
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included producer Frank
"Dr. Fantasy" Marshall.
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Frank had been a
location manager.
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And Kathleen
Kennedy, both on the up.
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{\an8}Kathleen had started as a PA.
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Kathy was Steven's
assistant on the first one.
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And she was so good, Steven
relied on her so much
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{\an8}she then, you know, became
an associate producer.
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Kathleen and Frank,
they were a positive duo.
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They understood exactly
what was going on.
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The story
for the second film
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would be very different.
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It would have to be,
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following the departure of
writer, Lawrence Kasdan.
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I think he'd had enough.
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But the
screenwriting life
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was only getting richer
for another writer
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whose career stretched
back all the way
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to Lucas's earliest days.
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I met George in
film school at USC.
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Willard was
one half of a partnership
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destined to write for a-listers,
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but it all began with a B movie.
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You talk too much.
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Roger Corman was showing a
rough cut of "Wild Angels."
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A friend of mine, he knew Gloria
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and she had just returned
from a trip to Europe
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and was wearing one of
the first miniskirts
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I'd ever seen.
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So I fell in love immediately.
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Willard and Gloria
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would go on to
deliver George a hit.
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You'll be hanging on for mercy
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when I get this sucker rolling.
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Scripting
"American Graffiti."
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We were the only writers
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he knew
in Hollywood, I think.
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But the second
"Indiana Jones" movie
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was not moving forward yet.
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Decisions were made.
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Because it was
moving backwards first.
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He didn't want
to do Nazis again.
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I don't know, I think they were
bored with that--.
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Bored by Nazis too,
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the next "Indiana Jones"
would need new villains
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to go with its new setting
on a different continent.
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Oh,
where are we anyway?
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Gloria and I
were art collectors
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and we collect a
lot of Indian stuff.
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George heard "Indian"
and he said,
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"I'd like to set this in India."
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He has brought
you here.
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It became a prequel.
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Set in the '30s
before the first film,
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but not for the reasons
you might think.
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Because of the films
we love from that era.
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We always considered
the golden years.
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And George thought
it would be cool
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to have 1930s cars instead
of '60s cars.
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Spielberg
had an idea
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that could not have
been more old Hollywood.
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Steven always wanted
to do a dance number.
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He wanted to do a musical.
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He wanted to do a
nightclub scene.
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The golden era feel
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called for a new golden girl.
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They also wanted the
heroine to be different
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than Ravenwood in the first one.
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They wanted her to be a
Jean Harlow kind of ditz.
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I've told you a million times
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not to talk to me when
I'm doing my lashes.
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So they made her as obnoxious
and silly as possible.
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Wait a second! Indy!
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Which they overdid.
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This is Willie Scott.
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The name continued
an unlikely arms race
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that started on "Raiders
of the Lost Ark."
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Indiana.
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It started because
Indiana was George's dog.
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And then Steven said, "Well
I want to name the girl...
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Willie, Willie.
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"After
my dog, Willie."
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So Willard
figured it was his turn.
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We had a dog who was
named after a Korean kid
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who was in a film
called "Steel Helmet."
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I ain't got no
chocolate, Short Round.
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It's a short
round of ammunition
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that doesn't fire
properly.
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And that
canine connection
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brought us the character of...
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Short Round.
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But the script
still had no teeth.
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Well yeah, we had no story.
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It was just us and George
and Steve sitting by the pool
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naming characters
after our dogs,
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trying to figure out
what the story meant.
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They had an idea, I don't know
if it was George or Steven,
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about Indy doing
something good for kids.
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He says they stole
their children.
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And so we had to work
kids in a Byzantine way
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where they were looking
for the Sankara Stones.
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So that's what
you've got these slaves
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digging for, huh?
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Just like George,
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Steven was also reeling
from a breakup of his own
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between him and music
executive, Kathleen Carey.
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Could not have been
easy on those two guys.
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They were
ready to push boundaries
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like never before.
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Maybe if Marcia was there,
it might have been less darker.
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But the
presence of children
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wasn't going to lighten
the mood for two writers
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encouraged to put more
crack in Indy's whip.
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At one point it was
"Temple of Death,"
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but they decided
that was even worse.
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So it was the "Temple of Doom."
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So the sequel,
which was actually a prequel...
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This
is Indiana Jones.
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...needed
to be fresh.
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So what are you supposed
to be, a lion tamer?
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It was set to
be more classical in parts.
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Lighter on one note.
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But darker overall.
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And yet suitable for
kids on screen and off.
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That wasn't so bad, was it?
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Not to mention a
rip-roaring action adventure.
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We knew Indy had to
be after something.
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It's a stone, a sacred stone.
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And we knew we
needed the bad guys.
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Of course, bad guys.
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But believe it or not,
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they still hadn't
confirmed their good guy.
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Well, the big thing there
was we had to have it done fast
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or Harrison wasn't gonna do it.
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I suggest you give
me what you owe me,
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or anything goes.
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From two or three days, we
just wrote the first draft.
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But with a script
that was strictly a WIP
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and not yet one
with any crack...
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Put him down!
260
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Could Harrison
Ford even be convinced
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to don the fedora again?
262
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First of all, George made
a terrible tactical error.
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George Lucas
decided the way to find out
264
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was to crack the whip himself.
265
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He's not the most polite.
266
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We were at dinner and he
threw down this script
267
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and said, "Here's your
next movie, Harrison."
268
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I think Harrison
was a little upset.
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Writers Willard
Huyck and Gloria Katz
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had a script their
producers were happy with.
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But there was someone else
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George and Steven
needed to convince.
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He threw down this
script and said,
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"Here's your next
movie, Harrison."
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They were both very
nervous about Harrison
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because, you know,
Harrison's like a real guy.
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Meaning,
he was not afraid
278
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to ask uncomfortable questions.
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When we wrote the first draft,
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we were told that Harrison
has some questions.
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Despite
a terse exchange
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with George Lucas over dinner...
283
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They didn't wanna lose him.
284
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Harrison
Ford was lined up
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- for "The Temple of Doom."
- Stop.
286
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And for
the casting director,
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finding the leading lady
meant revisiting a face
288
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she'd admired in past roles.
289
00:12:01,220 --> 00:12:04,056
I had just seen Kate
Capshaw in this movie
290
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called "The Windy City,"
291
00:12:05,850 --> 00:12:08,102
and I thought she
had a lot of spark.
292
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Dear God, there's gotta be
293
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some old fashioned
men out there.
294
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{\an8}She came in and she was
just utterly delightful.
295
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{\an8}There's just sun rays
coming out of her.
296
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{\an8}What Marci
had picked up on
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{\an8}was going to change not
only Spielberg's movie...
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Oh, Indy.
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But his life.
300
00:12:25,036 --> 00:12:26,954
Steven fell for
her for the role
301
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and for life at that moment.
302
00:12:29,248 --> 00:12:32,752
Just when my career
is starting to pay
off, you come along.
303
00:12:32,877 --> 00:12:35,797
{\an8}I really saw a spark
there.
304
00:12:35,797 --> 00:12:38,299
Mr. Spielberg, how does
it feel directing a musical?
305
00:12:38,424 --> 00:12:39,967
Well, it feels just swell.
306
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You know, sometimes you do.
307
00:12:43,221 --> 00:12:45,932
And I saw a spark there between
the director and the actor.
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Like Lucas,
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Steven was in the
middle of a breakup
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and it would leave its
mark on the story ahead.
311
00:12:55,983 --> 00:12:57,235
While that casting decision
312
00:12:57,235 --> 00:12:59,320
seemed to be written
in the stars...
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I put together an
open call in Los Angeles
314
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for the role of Short Round.
315
00:13:03,366 --> 00:13:05,993
...Marci was looking
to create a new star.
316
00:13:05,993 --> 00:13:09,205
We had been around the
world, quite honestly,
317
00:13:09,205 --> 00:13:11,082
searching for this kid.
318
00:13:12,875 --> 00:13:15,169
We were seeing hundreds of kids.
319
00:13:15,294 --> 00:13:16,879
But I'm looking at the kid
320
00:13:17,004 --> 00:13:19,090
who wasn't coming
that day to audition.
321
00:13:19,090 --> 00:13:21,843
12-year-old
Ke Huy Quan.
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00:13:21,843 --> 00:13:24,095
I said, "Why don't you
come in and do it also?"
323
00:13:24,095 --> 00:13:25,847
And he's like, "No, I'm fine."
324
00:13:25,847 --> 00:13:27,515
You know, he just, it
wasn't why he was there.
325
00:13:27,515 --> 00:13:29,058
He was there to
support his brother.
326
00:13:30,768 --> 00:13:33,271
And so I talked Ke Huy
Quan into auditioning.
327
00:13:33,271 --> 00:13:36,899
He wasn't nervous, but he
couldn't really read that well.
328
00:13:36,899 --> 00:13:39,402
And so we just started
talking to him.
329
00:13:39,527 --> 00:13:42,572
And in my head I'm going, "Oh
my God, oh my God, oh my God."
330
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{\an8}He was mischievous.
331
00:13:44,365 --> 00:13:46,284
{\an8}He started talking to Harrison
332
00:13:46,284 --> 00:13:50,371
and Steven had them do an
improvisation playing cards.
333
00:13:50,371 --> 00:13:53,374
And Harrison is cheating and
putting cards up his sleeve.
334
00:13:53,374 --> 00:13:55,126
You cheat!
Pay money!
335
00:13:55,126 --> 00:13:56,961
- Are you saying that I cheated?
- Yes!
336
00:13:57,086 --> 00:14:00,298
And instinctually, Ke
just knew to call him on it
337
00:14:01,299 --> 00:14:03,092
and be really mad,
338
00:14:03,092 --> 00:14:04,969
and be really forceful
about, "You're a cheater."
339
00:14:04,969 --> 00:14:06,220
Can
you prove I cheated?
340
00:14:06,220 --> 00:14:07,263
Yes, I saw it!
341
00:14:07,388 --> 00:14:08,806
You saw what?
342
00:14:08,806 --> 00:14:10,433
I saw you just
put a hand in there.
343
00:14:10,558 --> 00:14:12,268
The
youngster's improvisation
344
00:14:12,268 --> 00:14:14,479
was so impressive
it had to be good
345
00:14:14,479 --> 00:14:16,314
for more than a mere audition.
346
00:14:16,439 --> 00:14:19,108
The scene ended up
ultimately in the movie.
347
00:14:19,108 --> 00:14:20,234
No mistake!
Mistake?
348
00:14:20,234 --> 00:14:21,277
I'm very little!
349
00:14:21,277 --> 00:14:22,862
You cheat very big!
350
00:14:22,987 --> 00:14:24,489
I think I'm very lucky.
351
00:14:24,489 --> 00:14:26,282
And I'm number
seven in my family.
352
00:14:26,407 --> 00:14:28,076
That's a lucky number.
353
00:14:28,076 --> 00:14:29,952
And for the
dark priest, Mola Ram,
354
00:14:29,952 --> 00:14:32,580
Spielberg and Lucas found
their perfect choice
355
00:14:32,580 --> 00:14:35,208
in Indian actor Amrish Puri.
356
00:14:35,333 --> 00:14:38,795
You don't believe me?
357
00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,380
With the "Temple
of Doom" cast coming together,
358
00:14:41,380 --> 00:14:44,175
everything was falling
into place until...
359
00:14:44,175 --> 00:14:46,093
I think we got a big problem.
360
00:14:46,093 --> 00:14:48,596
...Willard received
a call from George Lucas.
361
00:14:48,721 --> 00:14:50,515
He said, "We have trouble.
362
00:14:50,515 --> 00:14:52,934
We're not gonna
be able to shoot in India."
363
00:14:53,059 --> 00:14:55,061
The Indian
authorities objected
364
00:14:55,061 --> 00:14:58,481
to the film's fanciful
depictions of human sacrifice.
365
00:14:58,481 --> 00:15:00,608
Some poor guy barbecued.
366
00:15:00,608 --> 00:15:02,276
And black magic.
367
00:15:04,195 --> 00:15:06,614
Refusing permission to
shoot in the country.
368
00:15:06,614 --> 00:15:09,200
So they shot the movie
in Sri Lanka instead.
369
00:15:10,660 --> 00:15:11,869
And so
production began
370
00:15:11,869 --> 00:15:15,206
in Sri Lanka in April of 1983.
371
00:15:15,206 --> 00:15:18,126
And the heartbreak of
both Steven and George
372
00:15:18,126 --> 00:15:21,921
would immediately leave
its mark on the film.
373
00:15:21,921 --> 00:15:24,340
Could not have been
easy on those two guys.
374
00:15:24,465 --> 00:15:26,634
Willard got to
keep his favorite lines.
375
00:15:26,634 --> 00:15:29,470
My favorite line, which I
will take credit for, was...
376
00:15:29,470 --> 00:15:31,597
You're not eating?
377
00:15:31,722 --> 00:15:34,183
Where she says,
"No, thank you."
378
00:15:34,183 --> 00:15:35,393
I had bugs for lunch.
379
00:15:36,561 --> 00:15:38,062
It was a good line,
380
00:15:38,062 --> 00:15:40,022
but the scene needed
more than gore.
381
00:15:40,148 --> 00:15:41,399
See? Surprise.
382
00:15:41,399 --> 00:15:43,317
And they realized,
and so they said,
383
00:15:43,317 --> 00:15:45,653
"Shoot, we need an insert
of somebody eating the eels."
384
00:15:45,653 --> 00:15:47,196
{\an8}And they said, "You
wanna do that?"
385
00:15:47,321 --> 00:15:48,406
{\an8}I went, "Heck, yeah!"
386
00:15:48,698 --> 00:15:50,491
They got Caecilian
worms from a fish shop.
387
00:15:50,491 --> 00:15:52,410
And here I am still
talking about it
388
00:15:52,535 --> 00:15:54,036
decades later.
389
00:15:54,036 --> 00:15:55,913
And the
film's edgier tone
390
00:15:55,913 --> 00:16:00,001
wasn't just on screen, it
carried behind the scenes too.
391
00:16:00,001 --> 00:16:01,294
We got company!
392
00:16:01,294 --> 00:16:03,045
The
mine car stunt...
393
00:16:03,045 --> 00:16:04,505
Indy!
394
00:16:05,339 --> 00:16:07,633
Incredibly complicated.
395
00:16:08,384 --> 00:16:11,053
They finally came out
onto the cliff face,
396
00:16:11,053 --> 00:16:12,930
water shooting out next to them.
397
00:16:12,930 --> 00:16:15,516
Which certainly
looked precarious,
398
00:16:15,641 --> 00:16:17,560
but it was not
when Harrison Ford
399
00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,520
really needed to watch his step.
400
00:16:19,645 --> 00:16:22,106
And suddenly
there's the bridge.
401
00:16:22,231 --> 00:16:24,525
And now we're in another
gigantic sequence.
402
00:16:24,650 --> 00:16:27,236
That came
when Steadicam operator,
403
00:16:27,361 --> 00:16:30,073
Garrett Brown, and
Harrison met on a bridge
404
00:16:30,073 --> 00:16:32,658
for an intimate near
death experience.
405
00:16:32,658 --> 00:16:35,620
{\an8}This is a business
like warfare.
406
00:16:35,620 --> 00:16:39,957
{\an8}You have a job to do and there
are occasionally hazards.
407
00:16:39,957 --> 00:16:41,542
And on this occasion,
408
00:16:41,667 --> 00:16:45,630
the hazard was about 60
yards of rope, wood, and wire
409
00:16:45,630 --> 00:16:47,965
hanging over a raging river.
410
00:16:47,965 --> 00:16:50,134
There's a famous
gorge that had been used
411
00:16:50,134 --> 00:16:52,011
on "Bridge on the River Kwai."
412
00:16:52,011 --> 00:16:54,472
A sense of history
is not the main reason
413
00:16:54,472 --> 00:16:57,058
the crew found themselves
on the same river.
414
00:16:57,058 --> 00:16:59,310
They picked it partly
because of its proximity
415
00:16:59,435 --> 00:17:02,146
to a giant company
that was building a dam
416
00:17:02,146 --> 00:17:03,731
just up the river.
417
00:17:03,731 --> 00:17:05,733
ILM was back
for "Temple of Doom,"
418
00:17:05,733 --> 00:17:09,403
but a stunt like this went
beyond their bag of tricks.
419
00:17:09,403 --> 00:17:12,448
{\an8}The engineers from the dam
helped our special effects guys
420
00:17:12,573 --> 00:17:15,576
{\an8}build the rope bridge,
put the two cables across
421
00:17:15,576 --> 00:17:17,411
{\an8}that supported it.
422
00:17:17,411 --> 00:17:18,996
When I first saw the thing,
423
00:17:18,996 --> 00:17:20,498
there were spaces
between the boards
424
00:17:20,498 --> 00:17:22,417
as big as the boards themselves.
425
00:17:22,417 --> 00:17:24,210
The
engineers built a bridge
426
00:17:24,210 --> 00:17:27,463
perfect for Spielberg's
high wire set piece,
427
00:17:27,463 --> 00:17:30,216
but not perfect for
his acute vertigo.
428
00:17:30,216 --> 00:17:32,343
Come on!
Let's go!
429
00:17:32,468 --> 00:17:34,137
He was not happy about
being on the bridge.
430
00:17:34,137 --> 00:17:35,513
Real scary.
431
00:17:35,513 --> 00:17:37,140
It's
very bouncy, Steve.
432
00:17:37,140 --> 00:17:38,683
Very bouncy.
433
00:17:38,683 --> 00:17:41,185
There was a lot of
shouting from the sidelines.
434
00:17:41,310 --> 00:17:43,187
Come on!
435
00:17:43,187 --> 00:17:44,814
But the catch was,
436
00:17:44,814 --> 00:17:46,691
which the other guys
didn't know from the dam,
437
00:17:46,691 --> 00:17:51,154
was the special effects guy
had to put exploding bolts
438
00:17:51,279 --> 00:17:52,697
in the wire,
439
00:17:52,697 --> 00:17:55,158
because at some point it
had to break, didn't it?
440
00:17:55,158 --> 00:17:56,617
But exploding bolts
441
00:17:56,617 --> 00:17:58,661
was not what made the
scene so dangerous
442
00:17:58,661 --> 00:18:00,037
for its leading man.
443
00:18:00,037 --> 00:18:01,789
Harrison's weight,
444
00:18:01,789 --> 00:18:04,292
and I'm guessing he might have
weighed 210 at that point.
445
00:18:04,417 --> 00:18:09,464
I weighed, probably accumulated
240 or 50 with the gear.
446
00:18:10,631 --> 00:18:12,508
You know, those
thin looking boards,
447
00:18:12,633 --> 00:18:15,470
it wasn't trivial to either one
of us to run on that bridge.
448
00:18:15,470 --> 00:18:17,388
And it
wasn't a trivial matter
449
00:18:17,388 --> 00:18:20,558
when the scene in the film
came true for Harrison Ford.
450
00:18:20,558 --> 00:18:21,642
Oh, shit.
451
00:18:21,767 --> 00:18:23,561
Not that part.
452
00:18:23,561 --> 00:18:26,314
Something dangerously similar
that wasn't in the script.
453
00:18:29,650 --> 00:18:32,153
Steadicam operator
Garrett Brown
454
00:18:32,153 --> 00:18:35,740
was filming Harrison Ford
standing on a flimsy wire bridge
455
00:18:35,865 --> 00:18:37,492
over a raging river...
456
00:18:37,617 --> 00:18:39,368
I'm amazed I'm still alive.
457
00:18:39,494 --> 00:18:42,705
...when Harrison
Ford's life almost imitated art
458
00:18:42,830 --> 00:18:44,582
as it flashed in front of him.
459
00:18:44,707 --> 00:18:47,543
The board broke, his leg
went down through the gap.
460
00:18:49,212 --> 00:18:51,422
{\an8}Harrison apparently just
decided to ignore it.
461
00:18:51,422 --> 00:18:53,716
{\an8}He was acting all the
way down to the crotch
462
00:18:53,841 --> 00:18:55,593
and I was shooting.
463
00:18:57,345 --> 00:18:59,055
You go into a sort of
self-protective mode,
464
00:18:59,055 --> 00:19:02,058
but you're also in the
middle of doing a job.
465
00:19:02,183 --> 00:19:04,102
And that's the shot, Garrett!
466
00:19:04,227 --> 00:19:05,561
As was Harrison.
467
00:19:05,561 --> 00:19:07,271
Until the word "cut" appears,
468
00:19:07,271 --> 00:19:08,856
that might turn out
to be something.
469
00:19:08,856 --> 00:19:10,525
They might use it in the movie.
470
00:19:10,525 --> 00:19:12,527
You know, I could almost
see it on his face.
471
00:19:12,527 --> 00:19:15,571
I'm sure Steven, was
first of all, embarrassed
472
00:19:15,696 --> 00:19:17,615
because Harrison had
said, "Is it safe?"
473
00:19:17,740 --> 00:19:20,409
And Steven had said, "Yes,
it's perfectly safe."
474
00:19:20,409 --> 00:19:22,203
Now, the
director had to prove that
475
00:19:22,203 --> 00:19:24,122
to his leading man.
476
00:19:24,247 --> 00:19:26,457
We watched the heaviest grips
they had jump on the boards
477
00:19:26,582 --> 00:19:27,667
and then kaboom.
478
00:19:27,667 --> 00:19:29,460
We went back to work.
479
00:19:29,585 --> 00:19:30,878
Which meant
they could shoot for show
480
00:19:30,878 --> 00:19:32,755
what nearly happened for real.
481
00:19:32,755 --> 00:19:34,382
Alright, here we go.
482
00:19:34,382 --> 00:19:35,800
And this
time it was controlled.
483
00:19:35,925 --> 00:19:37,885
- Exploding bolts.
- Mostly.
484
00:19:38,094 --> 00:19:40,346
{\an8}We weren't too sure
when the exploding bolts
485
00:19:40,346 --> 00:19:42,306
- were gonna work.
- Action!
486
00:19:42,306 --> 00:19:44,308
Hang on, lady.
We going for a ride.
487
00:19:44,308 --> 00:19:46,602
Oh!
What are you doing?
488
00:19:46,602 --> 00:19:48,438
But they did perfectly.
489
00:19:48,438 --> 00:19:51,274
And the whole thing fell.
490
00:19:51,399 --> 00:19:53,568
But don't worry.
491
00:19:53,568 --> 00:19:55,445
There wasn't anybody
physically on the bridge.
492
00:19:55,445 --> 00:19:56,904
They were all dummies.
493
00:19:57,447 --> 00:19:59,532
But not
your average dummies,
494
00:19:59,532 --> 00:20:01,284
slightly smarter ones.
495
00:20:01,409 --> 00:20:03,828
You'll notice some
arms and legs moving
496
00:20:03,953 --> 00:20:05,788
of some of the dummies
that are falling.
497
00:20:07,790 --> 00:20:10,251
'Cause they'd made six of
these animatronic dummies.
498
00:20:11,711 --> 00:20:13,629
Harrison
dodged one disaster.
499
00:20:13,755 --> 00:20:16,132
I've got some good news
and I've got some bad news.
500
00:20:16,257 --> 00:20:18,801
But another was
waiting just around the corner.
501
00:20:18,926 --> 00:20:20,762
{\an8}He hurt himself badly.
502
00:20:20,762 --> 00:20:24,307
{\an8}He hurt himself to the point
where he was really in pain.
503
00:20:24,307 --> 00:20:27,310
Good news is
Harrison Ford is fine.
504
00:20:27,435 --> 00:20:29,145
A herniated
disc inflicted
505
00:20:29,270 --> 00:20:31,147
during the shooting
of this fight scene
506
00:20:31,147 --> 00:20:32,648
brought shooting to a halt.
507
00:20:32,774 --> 00:20:34,484
And the bad news is,
508
00:20:34,484 --> 00:20:36,652
he needs until August 8th
to get back into shape.
509
00:20:36,652 --> 00:20:39,655
The injury
required surgery in L.A.
510
00:20:39,655 --> 00:20:41,407
{\an8}For Steven, it's hard.
511
00:20:41,407 --> 00:20:43,284
{\an8}Everything has to
be rescheduled.
512
00:20:43,284 --> 00:20:45,828
{\an8}You try to shoot around a
person as long as you can.
513
00:20:45,828 --> 00:20:47,497
But really,
514
00:20:47,497 --> 00:20:49,373
this might've been
a long time coming.
515
00:20:49,373 --> 00:20:51,542
I think a lot of what he did
516
00:20:52,877 --> 00:20:54,212
would've hurt anybody's
back, you know?
517
00:20:54,712 --> 00:20:56,547
It was extremely athletic.
518
00:20:56,672 --> 00:20:58,716
Spielberg
was helped by the fact
519
00:20:58,841 --> 00:21:00,635
Harrison's stunt double...
520
00:21:00,635 --> 00:21:03,554
The double we had for him
was a guy called Vic Armstrong.
521
00:21:03,679 --> 00:21:05,848
...was exactly
what a director needs
522
00:21:05,848 --> 00:21:07,350
a stunt double to be.
523
00:21:07,475 --> 00:21:09,519
The spitting
image of Harrison.
524
00:21:09,644 --> 00:21:10,978
You could shoot a scene with Vic
525
00:21:10,978 --> 00:21:12,647
and you're convinced
it's Harrison.
526
00:21:12,647 --> 00:21:14,732
So it didn't affect us much.
527
00:21:14,857 --> 00:21:16,943
Despite losing
six weeks with Harrison...
528
00:21:16,943 --> 00:21:19,695
Steven braved through it.
529
00:21:19,821 --> 00:21:21,614
That was great,
but my heart stopped.
530
00:21:21,614 --> 00:21:23,741
...and managed to
finish the film.
531
00:21:24,033 --> 00:21:26,702
Principal photography
on "The Temple of Doom"
532
00:21:26,702 --> 00:21:29,497
wrapped in September of 1983.
533
00:21:29,497 --> 00:21:32,542
And for once, Spielberg
wasn't making headlines
534
00:21:32,667 --> 00:21:34,377
for going over budget.
535
00:21:34,377 --> 00:21:37,547
"1941" was a catastrophe
for going over budget.
536
00:21:37,672 --> 00:21:39,841
"Temple of
Doom" was shot on schedule
537
00:21:39,841 --> 00:21:43,261
and on its $28
million price tag.
538
00:21:43,261 --> 00:21:47,723
There was great anticipation
for the second Indy movie.
539
00:21:47,849 --> 00:21:49,725
Great anticipation.
540
00:21:49,851 --> 00:21:51,352
Following the success
541
00:21:51,352 --> 00:21:53,729
of George Lucas's last trilogy,
542
00:21:54,647 --> 00:21:56,441
the global box office
543
00:21:56,566 --> 00:21:58,693
had become a greater
priority for studios.
544
00:21:58,693 --> 00:22:01,446
Japan, very important market.
545
00:22:01,446 --> 00:22:05,408
Huge market for "Star Wars,"
546
00:22:05,408 --> 00:22:09,412
but not such a great market
for "Raiders of the Lost Ark."
547
00:22:09,412 --> 00:22:11,289
It
turned out Paramount
548
00:22:11,289 --> 00:22:15,293
really needed to tip their
hat to Japanese moviegoers.
549
00:22:15,418 --> 00:22:18,671
We learned from
our folks in Japan
550
00:22:18,796 --> 00:22:21,966
that part of the reason
is the moviegoers,
551
00:22:22,091 --> 00:22:23,926
- believe it or not...
- Here.
552
00:22:23,926 --> 00:22:26,012
Didn't want to see
a guy wearing a hat.
553
00:22:27,597 --> 00:22:30,600
So for "Temple of Doom,"
554
00:22:30,725 --> 00:22:32,018
we took his hat off.
555
00:22:32,810 --> 00:22:34,937
But before
going into release,
556
00:22:34,937 --> 00:22:37,356
Paramount discovered
they had problems
557
00:22:37,356 --> 00:22:40,443
simple marketing tricks
alone couldn't fix.
558
00:22:40,443 --> 00:22:43,321
Gloria and I, we got a call
from the head of the studio
559
00:22:43,446 --> 00:22:45,656
and he says, "You've gotta
talk to George and Steve.
560
00:22:45,656 --> 00:22:48,451
I can't talk to them,
they won't talk to me."
561
00:22:48,576 --> 00:22:50,411
The
studio wanted Willard
562
00:22:50,411 --> 00:22:54,791
to convince Spielberg and
Lucas to lighten up, seriously.
563
00:22:54,791 --> 00:22:57,710
Michael Eisner, he says,
"This movie's very dark."
564
00:22:57,710 --> 00:23:00,963
And we said,
"Yes, it was supposed to be."
565
00:23:00,963 --> 00:23:03,299
This wasn't
just a matter of degrees
566
00:23:03,424 --> 00:23:04,842
for the studio.
567
00:23:04,967 --> 00:23:06,928
He said, "They've been
doing some sneak previews,
568
00:23:06,928 --> 00:23:08,846
and I've got exhibitors
are calling saying,
569
00:23:08,971 --> 00:23:10,932
'Kids are peeing
in their seats'."
570
00:23:12,642 --> 00:23:14,352
You know, I passed
that along to them.
571
00:23:14,477 --> 00:23:16,312
George and
Steven's response?
572
00:23:16,437 --> 00:23:19,649
"We'll fix it in post"
without changing a thing.
573
00:23:19,649 --> 00:23:20,775
They didn't particularly care,
574
00:23:20,775 --> 00:23:22,985
but they also said,
575
00:23:23,111 --> 00:23:25,613
"Well John Williams'
music will cover it.
576
00:23:25,613 --> 00:23:28,324
It'll be less gruesome
when the music's in."
577
00:23:30,034 --> 00:23:32,620
It would have to
be truly hypnotizing music
578
00:23:32,620 --> 00:23:34,789
to temper the horror
of a scene like this.
579
00:23:37,959 --> 00:23:41,379
Because after all the
heartbreak behind the scenes...
580
00:23:41,504 --> 00:23:43,881
Could not have been
easy on those two guys.
581
00:23:45,842 --> 00:23:47,969
Even John
Williams can only do so much.
582
00:23:48,094 --> 00:23:50,972
{\an8}I think "Temple of
Doom" was too down a film.
583
00:23:51,973 --> 00:23:54,350
{\an8}My general feeling was a down.
584
00:23:54,475 --> 00:23:56,936
This was an issue
that went beyond taste.
585
00:23:56,936 --> 00:23:59,522
It was the last thing
Paramount needed,
586
00:23:59,522 --> 00:24:02,692
just as they hoped to expand
the appeal of the franchise.
587
00:24:02,692 --> 00:24:07,029
Indy was such a popular
character at that point
588
00:24:07,029 --> 00:24:11,701
that little kids couldn't
wait to get into the theater.
589
00:24:11,701 --> 00:24:15,413
And they were faced with
a little bit of heaviness.
590
00:24:15,413 --> 00:24:17,165
That heaviness
was about to weigh
591
00:24:17,165 --> 00:24:20,126
on the entire U.S. film industry
592
00:24:20,126 --> 00:24:23,087
because Harrison Ford
wasn't the only heart throb
593
00:24:23,212 --> 00:24:25,006
in "The Temple of Doom."
594
00:24:25,006 --> 00:24:28,718
The film unwittingly staked
out new theatrical ground.
595
00:24:28,718 --> 00:24:29,886
Let me die.
596
00:24:30,011 --> 00:24:31,888
It became a controversy.
597
00:24:34,015 --> 00:24:35,892
It was so cartoonish
598
00:24:35,892 --> 00:24:39,228
that we didn't think anybody
would take it that seriously.
599
00:24:39,228 --> 00:24:42,398
You dare not do that.
600
00:24:42,523 --> 00:24:44,108
But it
was the censor's job
601
00:24:44,233 --> 00:24:45,735
to take it seriously.
602
00:24:45,735 --> 00:24:47,695
And "The Temple of
Doom" was so dark,
603
00:24:47,695 --> 00:24:49,697
they were lost in the dark
604
00:24:49,697 --> 00:24:52,617
when it came to
what certification
to put on the film.
605
00:24:52,617 --> 00:24:56,746
And after Spielberg went
directly to the MPAA,
606
00:24:56,746 --> 00:24:59,957
the film classification
and rating administration
607
00:25:00,083 --> 00:25:03,920
invented a brand new
rating, the PG-13.
608
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,798
It's the first movie
ever with a PG-13.
609
00:25:06,798 --> 00:25:10,259
And the idea of
parental guidance was born.
610
00:25:10,259 --> 00:25:14,472
It was all thanks to Willard
and Gloria's dark imagination.
611
00:25:14,597 --> 00:25:15,932
It's funny, when
you're writing it,
612
00:25:15,932 --> 00:25:18,101
it's amusing to be
darker and darker.
613
00:25:20,102 --> 00:25:21,646
When you see it, you go,
614
00:25:21,771 --> 00:25:23,606
"Oh my God, it's really
dark."
615
00:25:23,606 --> 00:25:25,274
Fans
waited in line all night
616
00:25:25,274 --> 00:25:26,818
to be the first to see
617
00:25:26,943 --> 00:25:28,569
"Indiana Jones and
the Temple of Doom."
618
00:25:28,569 --> 00:25:30,655
The first reaction to
the film was not good.
619
00:25:30,780 --> 00:25:31,823
It wasn't like "Raiders."
620
00:25:31,823 --> 00:25:32,907
It wasn't as good.
621
00:25:33,408 --> 00:25:35,493
Despite the
blood and the gore...
622
00:25:35,618 --> 00:25:36,661
It wasn't that violent.
623
00:25:36,786 --> 00:25:37,995
It's all in fun, I think.
624
00:25:37,995 --> 00:25:39,622
Or maybe
because of it.
625
00:25:39,622 --> 00:25:40,790
I was really an
exciting experience.
626
00:25:40,915 --> 00:25:42,166
And I plan on seeing it again.
627
00:25:42,166 --> 00:25:44,127
The
eyeballs in the soup
628
00:25:44,252 --> 00:25:46,504
didn't prevent
eyeballs on the movie.
629
00:25:46,504 --> 00:25:48,005
I've already seen it twice.
630
00:25:48,131 --> 00:25:50,091
And this
time, Japanese audiences
631
00:25:50,091 --> 00:25:52,969
seemed to have gotten
over the fedora phobia.
632
00:25:52,969 --> 00:25:56,973
In Japan, the movie did
much, much, much better.
633
00:25:58,808 --> 00:26:00,101
"Indiana Jones
and the Temple of Doom"
634
00:26:00,101 --> 00:26:03,187
grossed $179
million domestically
635
00:26:03,312 --> 00:26:05,648
on a budget of
nearly 28 million.
636
00:26:05,648 --> 00:26:08,276
Yes, we made a lot
of money off of it.
637
00:26:08,276 --> 00:26:10,194
But the
sequel fell short
638
00:26:10,319 --> 00:26:12,697
of the original
film's box office,
639
00:26:12,697 --> 00:26:15,950
not a trend the studio
wanted to see continue.
640
00:26:15,950 --> 00:26:17,118
One to go to
complete the trilogy.
641
00:26:17,118 --> 00:26:18,661
Two down, one to go.
642
00:26:18,786 --> 00:26:20,621
Of course,
that was plan A.
643
00:26:20,621 --> 00:26:23,833
But having taken Harrison
Ford to the edge of darkness,
644
00:26:23,958 --> 00:26:27,795
producers were acutely aware
of the old Hollywood maxim--
645
00:26:27,795 --> 00:26:30,089
You're only as good
as your last picture.
646
00:26:36,179 --> 00:26:39,891
proved to be doomed, with
Jonthe critics at least... om"
647
00:26:40,016 --> 00:26:41,767
Boo.
648
00:26:41,893 --> 00:26:44,061
Harrison Ford
blazed on bearing witness...
649
00:26:44,061 --> 00:26:45,688
It's over, enough!
650
00:26:45,813 --> 00:26:47,648
To a series of films
651
00:26:47,648 --> 00:26:50,568
that were a long way from
action adventure in a fedora.
652
00:26:50,693 --> 00:26:53,571
But there was no question
he was now a leading man.
653
00:26:53,571 --> 00:26:56,949
Melanie Griffith certainly
thought so in "Working Girl."
654
00:26:56,949 --> 00:26:59,869
I wanted an ace
on this, the best.
655
00:27:01,037 --> 00:27:02,955
Mm-hmm.
656
00:27:02,955 --> 00:27:04,874
But a script for
the next "Indiana Jones" movie
657
00:27:04,874 --> 00:27:07,710
was being shaped by writer
Christopher Columbus.
658
00:27:07,710 --> 00:27:11,255
Steven, he wasn't that
into the "Monkey King."
659
00:27:11,255 --> 00:27:12,965
The "Monkey King"
660
00:27:12,965 --> 00:27:15,551
was the working title
of "Indiana Three."
661
00:27:15,676 --> 00:27:18,221
Menno was invited to
pick up the project.
662
00:27:18,346 --> 00:27:20,723
I had been working with Steve
663
00:27:20,723 --> 00:27:22,683
{\an8}and I did "The Color
Purple" with him.
664
00:27:22,683 --> 00:27:25,478
Menno had an
idea for a new adventure
665
00:27:25,478 --> 00:27:27,730
that recalled "Raiders
of the Lost Ark."
666
00:27:27,730 --> 00:27:29,065
The Ark of the Covenant.
667
00:27:29,190 --> 00:27:30,775
Are you sure?
Pretty sure.
668
00:27:30,775 --> 00:27:32,902
Kind of like
the Christian version.
669
00:27:32,902 --> 00:27:34,654
I had the idea of the Grail
670
00:27:34,654 --> 00:27:37,240
because it was a kind
of sideways move.
671
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,699
The Grail, you ask?
672
00:27:38,699 --> 00:27:40,868
The Holy Grail, Dr. Jones.
673
00:27:42,745 --> 00:27:45,581
The chalice used by Christ
during the Last Supper.
674
00:27:45,706 --> 00:27:47,083
Yep.
675
00:27:47,208 --> 00:27:48,126
Who wouldn't want to
drink from that cup?
676
00:27:48,251 --> 00:27:49,627
George has a big library
677
00:27:49,752 --> 00:27:51,254
and he's
a very knowledgeable guy.
678
00:27:51,254 --> 00:27:54,841
And he also knew the
Nazis got really overexcited
679
00:27:54,841 --> 00:27:57,260
about the Grail and
the Spear of Destiny
680
00:27:57,260 --> 00:27:59,637
and all of this mad
stuff, you know?
681
00:27:59,762 --> 00:28:02,974
So the evil
relic-hunting Nazis were back.
682
00:28:02,974 --> 00:28:05,059
But what would be
Indy's motivation
683
00:28:05,184 --> 00:28:06,936
to go after the same prize?
684
00:28:06,936 --> 00:28:08,688
I didn't come for
the cup of Christ.
685
00:28:08,688 --> 00:28:10,690
I came to find my father.
686
00:28:10,690 --> 00:28:12,942
It's the first time
we see Indiana Jones
687
00:28:12,942 --> 00:28:15,111
in a real emotional
relationship.
688
00:28:15,111 --> 00:28:16,821
It is you, Junior!
689
00:28:16,946 --> 00:28:18,156
{\an8}This is absolutely
the heart of the film.
690
00:28:18,156 --> 00:28:19,949
{\an8}It's a father and son film.
691
00:28:19,949 --> 00:28:22,744
You have chosen wisely.
692
00:28:22,744 --> 00:28:24,579
Speaking
of wise choices,
693
00:28:24,579 --> 00:28:27,165
finding the right man
to play Indie's dad?
694
00:28:27,290 --> 00:28:30,042
Well, that seemed
almost preordained.
695
00:28:30,168 --> 00:28:32,879
We immediately said, "Oh
well, that's Sean Connery!"
696
00:28:32,879 --> 00:28:35,590
There was
near total consensus.
697
00:28:35,590 --> 00:28:37,717
{\an8}As much as everybody
just looks at him as...
698
00:28:37,717 --> 00:28:38,801
Bond.
699
00:28:40,303 --> 00:28:41,929
James Bond.
700
00:28:41,929 --> 00:28:43,723
He's done a
lot of brilliant work
701
00:28:43,723 --> 00:28:45,933
in other movies, playing
other characters.
702
00:28:45,933 --> 00:28:47,310
Yeah, try and get
him on the phone.
703
00:28:47,435 --> 00:28:48,978
Forget it.
704
00:28:49,103 --> 00:28:50,938
Because
since retiring as 007,
705
00:28:50,938 --> 00:28:54,317
Sean had become one of the
busiest stars in Hollywood,
706
00:28:54,317 --> 00:28:57,278
from a police officer with
his own fatherly advice.
707
00:28:57,278 --> 00:28:59,655
He pulls a knife,
you pull a gun.
708
00:28:59,781 --> 00:29:01,157
He sends one of yours
to the hospital,
709
00:29:01,157 --> 00:29:02,742
you send him one of
his to the morgue.
710
00:29:02,742 --> 00:29:04,744
To well,
less renowned work.
711
00:29:07,205 --> 00:29:10,124
When someone finally did
get Sean on the horn--
712
00:29:10,124 --> 00:29:11,834
Then it was just
like Sean Connery,
713
00:29:11,834 --> 00:29:12,960
"Yeah, yeah, yeah.
714
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,837
Okay, done, yeah, he's in."
715
00:29:14,837 --> 00:29:18,716
You gotta admit that
Steven does amazing casting.
716
00:29:18,841 --> 00:29:20,635
It was perfect.
717
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,054
Connery signed
on with great expectations.
718
00:29:23,179 --> 00:29:26,307
With Sean Connery, you know
that there's gonna be a great
719
00:29:26,307 --> 00:29:28,392
back and forth and
great repartee.
720
00:29:28,518 --> 00:29:29,811
- Dad.
- What?
721
00:29:29,811 --> 00:29:31,187
- Dad!
- What?
722
00:29:31,312 --> 00:29:32,897
This being
a family affair...
723
00:29:33,147 --> 00:29:35,066
...the third
"Indiana Jones" picture
724
00:29:35,066 --> 00:29:36,359
would also need
someone to play a...
725
00:29:37,193 --> 00:29:38,236
Junior!
726
00:29:38,236 --> 00:29:40,196
How am I doing, boy?
727
00:29:40,196 --> 00:29:42,031
And Harrison Ford
had already met just the kid.
728
00:29:42,156 --> 00:29:44,283
In fact, he'd already played dad
729
00:29:44,283 --> 00:29:47,912
to the rising star River
Phoenix in "The Mosquito Coast."
730
00:29:48,037 --> 00:29:49,831
I thought it was
brilliant casting.
731
00:29:49,831 --> 00:29:51,207
I could see it right away.
732
00:29:51,207 --> 00:29:53,251
And obviously Steven did too.
733
00:29:53,251 --> 00:29:57,421
'Cause he was really an
amazing kid, number one,
734
00:29:57,547 --> 00:29:58,881
and actor, number two.
735
00:29:58,881 --> 00:30:00,716
It belongs in a museum.
736
00:30:00,716 --> 00:30:02,176
And to
play opposite Ford
737
00:30:02,176 --> 00:30:04,345
for Indy's other
key relationship,
738
00:30:04,345 --> 00:30:07,014
another page from
the book of Bond.
739
00:30:07,014 --> 00:30:09,058
I'm an early riser myself.
740
00:30:09,183 --> 00:30:12,061
I played a bond girl
in Roger Moore's...
741
00:30:12,186 --> 00:30:15,064
♪ A view to a kill ♪
742
00:30:15,064 --> 00:30:18,693
{\an8}Steven Spielberg and
George Lucas interviewed me
743
00:30:18,693 --> 00:30:21,821
{\an8}and asked me if I was
frightened of rats.
744
00:30:23,406 --> 00:30:26,033
And I told them
that I had no fear
745
00:30:26,033 --> 00:30:28,911
of the four-legged
rat, only the two.
746
00:30:28,911 --> 00:30:31,205
And they said that there'd
be no two-legged rats
747
00:30:31,205 --> 00:30:33,207
working on the movie.
748
00:30:33,207 --> 00:30:35,877
Except for, of
course, the villain in the movie
749
00:30:35,877 --> 00:30:39,839
who almost cast himself after
a chat with his neighbor.
750
00:30:39,839 --> 00:30:42,425
I lived right next
door to Robert Watts,
751
00:30:42,550 --> 00:30:45,094
the executive producer
of "Star Wars."
752
00:30:45,219 --> 00:30:48,306
And one afternoon we
were in the garden
753
00:30:48,431 --> 00:30:50,975
talking across the fence like
you do when you're neighbors.
754
00:30:50,975 --> 00:30:52,310
I just propped the question of,
755
00:30:52,310 --> 00:30:53,895
"What are you doing
at the moment?"
756
00:30:54,562 --> 00:30:57,231
And he said, "I'm making the
second "Star Wars" movie.
757
00:30:57,231 --> 00:30:59,025
"Do you want to be in it?"
758
00:30:59,025 --> 00:31:00,818
Wow!
759
00:31:00,943 --> 00:31:02,820
Thanks in part
to Lucas's propensity
760
00:31:02,945 --> 00:31:04,822
to cast Brits as baddies.
761
00:31:04,822 --> 00:31:06,324
He felt surprise was wiser.
762
00:31:06,324 --> 00:31:08,451
He's as
clumsy as he is stupid.
763
00:31:08,451 --> 00:31:10,077
When it came to
"Indiana Jones,"
764
00:31:10,077 --> 00:31:12,955
he was the executive
producer on that too.
765
00:31:13,081 --> 00:31:17,210
And he got me the interview
for the Nazi officer.
766
00:31:18,085 --> 00:31:19,462
And I didn't get it.
767
00:31:19,587 --> 00:31:21,297
This is how we say
goodbye in Germany.
768
00:31:22,965 --> 00:31:24,425
You win
some, you lose some.
769
00:31:24,425 --> 00:31:26,260
Well my agent rang and said,
770
00:31:26,260 --> 00:31:28,387
"Sorry you didn't
get that, Julian."
771
00:31:28,387 --> 00:31:30,098
And
then you win some.
772
00:31:30,098 --> 00:31:32,183
"Do you want to
play Walter Donovan?"
773
00:31:32,308 --> 00:31:35,394
I said, "Well, you
mean the baddy?"
774
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,980
He said, "Yes, they
want you for that."
775
00:31:38,106 --> 00:31:39,148
That's how I got it.
776
00:31:40,274 --> 00:31:42,151
To play
the role of Kazim,
777
00:31:42,276 --> 00:31:45,822
Kevork Malikyan was cast by
Spielberg, partly on his looks.
778
00:31:45,822 --> 00:31:48,199
{\an8}He said, you know,
"Can I ask you, Kevorkian,
779
00:31:48,324 --> 00:31:50,034
has anyone told you before
780
00:31:50,159 --> 00:31:52,537
that your face is a
combination of Robert De Niro,
781
00:31:52,537 --> 00:31:54,997
Al Pacino, and Dustin Hoffman?"
782
00:31:55,581 --> 00:31:57,166
I really--
783
00:31:57,166 --> 00:31:59,502
I absolutely
didn't know what to say.
784
00:31:59,627 --> 00:32:01,879
But Kevork
didn't have to say anything.
785
00:32:02,004 --> 00:32:03,881
In that case, God be
with you in your quest.
786
00:32:03,881 --> 00:32:05,383
With
the cast locked in,
787
00:32:05,508 --> 00:32:08,010
the only unknown was
whether Harrison Ford
788
00:32:08,136 --> 00:32:10,847
would find himself
operating in the shadow
789
00:32:10,847 --> 00:32:12,348
of his legendary costar.
790
00:32:12,473 --> 00:32:14,392
I came here to save you!
791
00:32:14,517 --> 00:32:15,893
Oh yeah?
792
00:32:16,018 --> 00:32:17,186
And who's gonna
come to save you?
793
00:32:17,311 --> 00:32:18,396
Oh my goodness.
794
00:32:18,521 --> 00:32:21,858
I was shocked.
795
00:32:22,984 --> 00:32:24,861
When shooting on
796
00:32:24,861 --> 00:32:27,905
"Indiana Jones and the Last
Crusade" began in May of 1988...
797
00:32:28,030 --> 00:32:29,907
How dare you kiss me?
798
00:32:29,907 --> 00:32:32,326
The onscreen
chemistry was electric.
799
00:32:32,326 --> 00:32:33,911
- They'll kill us!
- I know, Dad!
800
00:32:33,911 --> 00:32:35,538
Between the two
male leads, that is.
801
00:32:35,538 --> 00:32:38,833
{\an8}And I used to say it to
Sean, "You've got my part
802
00:32:38,833 --> 00:32:43,045
because you're having so
many scenes with Harrison."
803
00:32:43,045 --> 00:32:45,339
I think the reason that
this movie worked as well
804
00:32:45,465 --> 00:32:47,884
was because of their
relationship on screen
805
00:32:48,009 --> 00:32:49,343
and their chemistry.
806
00:32:49,343 --> 00:32:51,220
What do you wanna talk about?
807
00:32:51,345 --> 00:32:53,347
It's interesting to
see him with Sean though,
808
00:32:53,347 --> 00:32:55,975
because Sean's quite serious.
809
00:32:55,975 --> 00:32:58,519
{\an8}When Sean's on the set,
everybody lifts their game.
810
00:32:58,519 --> 00:33:00,313
This is a new
experience for me.
811
00:33:00,897 --> 00:33:03,399
I think this was the
first time they met.
812
00:33:03,524 --> 00:33:05,902
{\an8}And the camaraderie between
the two of them, incredible.
813
00:33:05,902 --> 00:33:08,946
{\an8}It's just like they had been
father and son for years.
814
00:33:08,946 --> 00:33:10,948
Five minutes
would've been enough.
815
00:33:11,073 --> 00:33:12,408
Known
for his ad-libs...
816
00:33:12,408 --> 00:33:13,493
I love you.
817
00:33:14,243 --> 00:33:15,244
I know.
818
00:33:15,244 --> 00:33:16,412
That was one.
819
00:33:16,412 --> 00:33:19,123
Harrison had met his match.
820
00:33:19,999 --> 00:33:21,584
{\an8}Junior?
821
00:33:21,584 --> 00:33:24,337
{\an8}The scene when I am
discovered to be Mr. Baddy.
822
00:33:24,462 --> 00:33:28,132
Didn't I warn you not to
trust anybody, Dr. Jones?
823
00:33:28,132 --> 00:33:29,467
And Harrison said...
824
00:33:29,592 --> 00:33:31,886
How did you know
she was a Nazi?
825
00:33:31,886 --> 00:33:34,430
Well, I don't know what was
in the original script.
826
00:33:34,430 --> 00:33:35,473
Sean just said...
827
00:33:35,598 --> 00:33:37,308
She talks in her sleep.
828
00:33:39,227 --> 00:33:42,021
And that
just broke us all up.
829
00:33:42,021 --> 00:33:46,109
The whole of the set
started to erupt in laughter.
830
00:33:46,109 --> 00:33:48,319
He completely invented
that line and did it.
831
00:33:48,319 --> 00:33:50,404
And of course Spielberg
says that's in.
832
00:33:50,404 --> 00:33:52,990
God, it took us five
minutes to recover.
833
00:33:54,492 --> 00:33:56,494
Harrison
Ford, now in his element,
834
00:33:56,494 --> 00:33:59,455
even alongside his
legendary costar,
835
00:33:59,455 --> 00:34:02,500
allowed the comedy to
spill off the screen too.
836
00:34:02,625 --> 00:34:04,544
People really know
what they're doing.
837
00:34:04,544 --> 00:34:06,170
Harrison's very private.
838
00:34:06,295 --> 00:34:07,630
He's not a joke teller,
839
00:34:07,755 --> 00:34:10,258
but he's one of those
who makes a remark
840
00:34:10,383 --> 00:34:12,969
out of the corner of
his mouth.
841
00:34:14,595 --> 00:34:16,264
Very under, and you never
know when it's gonna come.
842
00:34:16,389 --> 00:34:18,182
So he was very good
company on that level.
843
00:34:18,182 --> 00:34:21,018
And then this is just
after the tank explodes,
844
00:34:21,018 --> 00:34:22,603
you make a hard...
845
00:34:22,603 --> 00:34:24,230
But there
was no horsing around
846
00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:26,524
for one of the movie's
key action scenes,
847
00:34:27,733 --> 00:34:29,986
involving tanks and horses
848
00:34:30,111 --> 00:34:32,488
and the grinding
dust of North Africa.
849
00:34:32,613 --> 00:34:34,240
Just another
day at the office.
850
00:34:34,365 --> 00:34:36,159
But not just
another day at the office
851
00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:37,201
for Julian Glover.
852
00:34:39,036 --> 00:34:40,621
When I read the
script for that,
853
00:34:40,747 --> 00:34:43,583
I thought I'm going to
achieve my lifetime ambition,
854
00:34:43,583 --> 00:34:47,295
which is to be like General
Rommel in World War II
855
00:34:47,295 --> 00:34:50,131
at the top of a tank going...
856
00:34:50,131 --> 00:34:51,591
And I got that wish.
857
00:34:51,716 --> 00:34:53,426
I got to do a Rommel.
858
00:34:53,426 --> 00:34:54,469
Not that Jones!
859
00:34:54,469 --> 00:34:56,179
The other Jones!
860
00:34:56,179 --> 00:34:57,722
Some actors
on "The Last Crusade"
861
00:34:57,722 --> 00:35:00,975
found their work to be
unexpectedly physical.
862
00:35:00,975 --> 00:35:03,227
Vernon Dobtcheff
got to say a line
863
00:35:03,352 --> 00:35:07,148
that would become the most
quoted of his 200+ films.
864
00:35:07,273 --> 00:35:09,066
{\an8}If you are a Scottish Lord,
865
00:35:09,192 --> 00:35:11,444
then I am Mickey Mouse!
866
00:35:11,444 --> 00:35:13,070
Steven said to Harrison,
867
00:35:13,070 --> 00:35:14,405
"I want you to punch him
at the end of the line."
868
00:35:16,115 --> 00:35:19,035
And I slid down the
wall, and that was that.
869
00:35:19,577 --> 00:35:21,204
But in Vernon,
870
00:35:21,329 --> 00:35:23,581
Spielberg had seen something
hiding in plain sight,
871
00:35:23,915 --> 00:35:26,250
he felt was perfect
for the scene.
872
00:35:26,250 --> 00:35:30,671
There was a case
for an Egyptian mummy.
873
00:35:30,671 --> 00:35:34,050
He put me in profile like that.
874
00:35:36,427 --> 00:35:38,513
And that was the gag, you see?
875
00:35:38,513 --> 00:35:41,099
He just wanted
the nose.
876
00:35:41,224 --> 00:35:42,517
It seemed like every actor
877
00:35:42,642 --> 00:35:45,394
was making an impression
and I was given a chance
878
00:35:45,394 --> 00:35:47,230
to make an even bigger one.
879
00:35:47,230 --> 00:35:49,482
One I wasn't expecting.
880
00:35:49,482 --> 00:35:52,276
Steven said, "Alison,
get into the boat
881
00:35:52,276 --> 00:35:55,446
and drive it straight
towards the boat
882
00:35:55,571 --> 00:35:57,281
with the camera on it."
883
00:35:57,281 --> 00:36:00,368
I hear "action" and I'm zooming.
884
00:36:00,368 --> 00:36:03,287
And they're saying, "Now,
before you get too close,
885
00:36:03,412 --> 00:36:04,997
veer off to the right."
886
00:36:05,123 --> 00:36:06,207
Are you crazy?
887
00:36:06,207 --> 00:36:07,500
You don't go between 'em!
888
00:36:07,625 --> 00:36:09,377
Go between them?
Are you crazy?
889
00:36:09,377 --> 00:36:12,088
This was the
worst possible time
890
00:36:12,088 --> 00:36:13,131
to get starstruck.
891
00:36:13,131 --> 00:36:15,258
I started to get hypnotized
892
00:36:15,258 --> 00:36:17,301
seeing all of
these famous faces.
893
00:36:17,301 --> 00:36:18,594
"Oh, there's Steven.
894
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:19,804
Oh, there's George."
895
00:36:19,929 --> 00:36:21,430
I could see their faces.
896
00:36:21,556 --> 00:36:23,808
They were going...
897
00:36:26,394 --> 00:36:27,395
That way.
898
00:36:27,395 --> 00:36:28,729
I said, "Go around!"
899
00:36:28,729 --> 00:36:30,398
I went, "Oh."
900
00:36:30,398 --> 00:36:32,650
And I just turned the
boat very quickly.
901
00:36:34,068 --> 00:36:35,445
It was harrowing for them,
902
00:36:35,570 --> 00:36:37,613
but in the end it
was a good scene.
903
00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:41,492
We went to the
back of the studio,
904
00:36:41,492 --> 00:36:44,996
huge pool, which was
supposed to be the river.
905
00:36:44,996 --> 00:36:48,082
They used stunts for me,
not for Harrison Ford.
906
00:36:48,082 --> 00:36:49,625
He did all his stunts himself.
907
00:36:52,753 --> 00:36:54,338
In the same scene,
908
00:36:54,464 --> 00:36:56,591
Harrison was looking
out for his co-stars.
909
00:36:56,716 --> 00:36:58,509
It was a horribly cold day.
910
00:36:58,634 --> 00:37:02,180
And somebody brought in a
coffee with brandy in it.
911
00:37:02,180 --> 00:37:04,223
He said, "Excuse
me, where's Kevork?
912
00:37:04,223 --> 00:37:05,808
Where's Kevork's drink?"
913
00:37:05,808 --> 00:37:07,810
So they
brought me a brandy.
914
00:37:08,811 --> 00:37:11,272
So, Dr. Jones, it's yours.
915
00:37:11,272 --> 00:37:12,607
Kevork
got his coffee,
916
00:37:12,607 --> 00:37:14,317
but he wasn't getting any extra
917
00:37:14,317 --> 00:37:16,194
when it came to what
he was there for.
918
00:37:16,194 --> 00:37:17,695
George Lucas came
to me and he said,
919
00:37:17,820 --> 00:37:19,781
"You know, Kevork, in
the original story,
920
00:37:19,781 --> 00:37:22,325
your character was
going to Petra,
921
00:37:22,450 --> 00:37:25,286
but we decided to kill you from,
922
00:37:25,286 --> 00:37:27,622
to kill
your character.
923
00:37:27,622 --> 00:37:29,457
So you will not be
coming to Petra."
924
00:37:29,457 --> 00:37:31,125
For the unrighteous.
925
00:37:31,125 --> 00:37:33,211
If I hadn't been
killed by the Germans,
926
00:37:33,336 --> 00:37:34,712
I would've appeared till
the end of the film,
927
00:37:34,837 --> 00:37:36,672
I suppose, in the
original story.
928
00:37:38,341 --> 00:37:40,593
Julian Glover's
character's demise...
929
00:37:40,718 --> 00:37:42,220
It's very interesting,
that death scene.
930
00:37:42,220 --> 00:37:44,347
Required
more finesse.
931
00:37:44,472 --> 00:37:47,475
We spent a very
long time beforehand.
932
00:37:47,475 --> 00:37:50,728
And a little
bit of ILM genius behind it
933
00:37:50,728 --> 00:37:53,397
as practical as it was inspired.
934
00:37:53,397 --> 00:37:56,401
They made a death mask of
me out of Plaster of Paris.
935
00:37:56,401 --> 00:37:59,403
I had wires going down
my back, up my front.
936
00:37:59,403 --> 00:38:01,364
A very elaborate two day shoot.
937
00:38:01,364 --> 00:38:03,449
What is happening to me?
938
00:38:03,449 --> 00:38:06,536
Right near the
beginning, my hair grows!
939
00:38:07,370 --> 00:38:09,455
And that of course was
such simple device,
940
00:38:09,455 --> 00:38:11,207
which Steven invented.
941
00:38:11,332 --> 00:38:12,708
There was a man in front of me
942
00:38:12,708 --> 00:38:15,545
and he held onto the
front of the hair
943
00:38:15,545 --> 00:38:18,423
and pulled it like that, and
it went shoop, like that.
944
00:38:18,423 --> 00:38:19,715
And they shot it in reverse.
945
00:38:21,801 --> 00:38:24,512
I had to scream backwards
946
00:38:24,512 --> 00:38:26,764
from my maximum scream of fear
947
00:38:26,764 --> 00:38:29,600
down to my just
starting to scream.
948
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,354
It's the most difficult scene
for me in the whole movie.
949
00:38:34,731 --> 00:38:36,649
I thankfully did it well
950
00:38:36,774 --> 00:38:39,277
and well enough for
Harrison to come over to me
951
00:38:39,402 --> 00:38:41,279
and say, "Are you okay?"
952
00:38:41,279 --> 00:38:43,740
I went, "Yes, I'm
acting."
953
00:38:43,865 --> 00:38:44,866
We have got it.
954
00:38:44,991 --> 00:38:46,701
Come on!
955
00:38:46,701 --> 00:38:49,370
But sadly, not acting
for as long as I had hoped.
956
00:38:49,495 --> 00:38:51,622
I was really annoyed
reading in the script
957
00:38:51,747 --> 00:38:53,666
that my character
was going to die
958
00:38:53,666 --> 00:38:56,711
because I wanted to come back
in the next "Indiana Jones."
959
00:38:56,711 --> 00:38:58,254
Honey,
I can't hold you!
960
00:38:58,379 --> 00:38:59,338
I can reach it.
961
00:38:59,464 --> 00:39:00,756
Steven goes, "Action."
962
00:39:00,756 --> 00:39:02,925
I fall, I scream.
963
00:39:03,050 --> 00:39:05,887
I hear Steven saying, "And cut."
964
00:39:05,887 --> 00:39:07,472
I went, "It's okay.
965
00:39:07,472 --> 00:39:09,307
I'm alive.
966
00:39:09,432 --> 00:39:11,476
I had a soft landing just
come down and get me."
967
00:39:11,476 --> 00:39:13,436
And Steven kept
saying, "You're dead."
968
00:39:14,729 --> 00:39:16,439
"You're dead."
969
00:39:16,439 --> 00:39:18,441
I said, "No, no, no, no.
970
00:39:18,441 --> 00:39:21,944
Could you not just leave
her with one finger moving
971
00:39:21,944 --> 00:39:23,780
with the possibility--?"
972
00:39:23,905 --> 00:39:25,823
And he said, "No, you're dead."
973
00:39:25,823 --> 00:39:27,617
Let it go.
974
00:39:27,742 --> 00:39:29,410
But with
production nearly wrapped,
975
00:39:29,410 --> 00:39:32,789
the toughest tests were
still waiting in the wings.
976
00:39:32,914 --> 00:39:33,956
What does that mean?
977
00:39:34,081 --> 00:39:35,500
There was no CG.
978
00:39:35,500 --> 00:39:37,293
We didn't have
computers.
979
00:39:40,588 --> 00:39:41,839
The biggest challenge
980
00:39:41,839 --> 00:39:43,758
finishing "The Last Crusade..."
981
00:39:43,758 --> 00:39:45,426
Why are you
sitting there resting
982
00:39:45,426 --> 00:39:47,345
when we're so near the end?
983
00:39:47,345 --> 00:39:48,596
...was taking the
massive
984
00:39:49,764 --> 00:39:51,516
and making it small...
985
00:39:51,516 --> 00:39:53,518
So it was a blimp miniature.
986
00:39:53,518 --> 00:39:55,353
...in order
to make it big.
987
00:39:55,353 --> 00:39:58,731
{\an8}And a miniature
biplane when it detaches
988
00:39:58,731 --> 00:40:02,985
and then flies off, was a
white blimp on a blue sky,
989
00:40:02,985 --> 00:40:05,655
which is the enemy
of visual effects.
990
00:40:06,948 --> 00:40:08,491
That was the challenge.
991
00:40:08,616 --> 00:40:10,201
And none
of this was helped
992
00:40:10,326 --> 00:40:12,912
by the reality of
filmmaking 40 years ago.
993
00:40:12,912 --> 00:40:16,332
The entire film was made
with models and miniatures
994
00:40:16,457 --> 00:40:17,834
and real explosions.
995
00:40:17,834 --> 00:40:19,335
And there was no CG.
996
00:40:19,335 --> 00:40:20,837
But we didn't have computers.
997
00:40:20,837 --> 00:40:22,839
You know,
we didn't have CG.
998
00:40:22,839 --> 00:40:24,382
Which made shooting
999
00:40:24,382 --> 00:40:26,467
as much action as
possible crucial,
1000
00:40:26,467 --> 00:40:29,220
even if some of it we
would never get to see.
1001
00:40:29,345 --> 00:40:31,430
Do you know about
the Zeppelin business?
1002
00:40:31,556 --> 00:40:33,558
Such as a
spectacular dogfight
1003
00:40:33,558 --> 00:40:35,852
that originally
featured a bigger dog.
1004
00:40:35,852 --> 00:40:40,231
{\an8}What they had originally
was a German officer,
1005
00:40:40,231 --> 00:40:42,316
which Indiana Jones took on.
1006
00:40:42,442 --> 00:40:45,528
And they shot the whole
sequence and then they cut it.
1007
00:40:45,528 --> 00:40:46,904
But that's what happens
with movies, isn't it?
1008
00:40:46,904 --> 00:40:49,449
Hang on, Dad, we're going in.
1009
00:40:49,449 --> 00:40:51,159
Believing
the dogfight
1010
00:40:51,284 --> 00:40:53,411
dragged down the
story's momentum,
1011
00:40:53,411 --> 00:40:56,664
Spielberg clipped
the scene's wings.
1012
00:40:56,664 --> 00:40:59,667
Spielberg discovered
he had come up short,
1013
00:40:59,667 --> 00:41:02,253
but only after location
shooting wrapped.
1014
00:41:03,671 --> 00:41:05,256
We shot that
motorcycle chase scene
1015
00:41:05,256 --> 00:41:07,425
in San Anselmo. Post-production.
1016
00:41:07,425 --> 00:41:08,760
It was a U.S. unit.
1017
00:41:10,511 --> 00:41:12,972
Brilliant sequence,
brilliant sequence.
1018
00:41:12,972 --> 00:41:16,684
Certain directors a studio
demands a screening or two
1019
00:41:16,684 --> 00:41:19,604
or three or four and
then gives their notes.
1020
00:41:19,604 --> 00:41:21,689
But Steven and George
were at the level of,
1021
00:41:21,814 --> 00:41:23,858
"Here's my movie, I hope
you like it."
1022
00:41:23,858 --> 00:41:25,777
"Indiana Jones."
1023
00:41:25,902 --> 00:41:29,697
"The Last Crusade"
hit theaters in May of 1989.
1024
00:41:29,697 --> 00:41:31,324
- Nice landing.
- Thanks.
1025
00:41:31,449 --> 00:41:33,367
It landed
at an unusual time
1026
00:41:33,367 --> 00:41:36,454
with its spring release, but
was universally embraced.
1027
00:41:36,454 --> 00:41:38,539
I was absolutely
happy with what I'd done
1028
00:41:38,539 --> 00:41:39,999
'cause I knew that's
what Steven wanted.
1029
00:41:39,999 --> 00:41:42,627
It's more beautiful
than I'd ever imagined.
1030
00:41:42,752 --> 00:41:44,629
It just has everything.
1031
00:41:44,629 --> 00:41:46,714
Looks like the best parts
have already been spoken for.
1032
00:41:46,839 --> 00:41:49,801
{\an8}It's got the amazing
action and adventure.
1033
00:41:50,843 --> 00:41:52,345
The film had risen to the top
1034
00:41:52,345 --> 00:41:54,472
with fans and cast alike.
1035
00:41:54,472 --> 00:41:55,973
It's like being with a friend
1036
00:41:55,973 --> 00:41:57,767
and joining him on a journey.
1037
00:41:57,892 --> 00:41:59,477
Sharing your adventures.
1038
00:41:59,477 --> 00:42:00,937
"The Last Crusade"
1039
00:42:00,937 --> 00:42:04,690
netted almost 475
million worldwide
1040
00:42:04,690 --> 00:42:07,401
from the budget of
just 48 million,
1041
00:42:07,401 --> 00:42:11,364
becoming the highest grossing
film of the original trilogy.
1042
00:42:11,364 --> 00:42:12,532
And I'm pleased that
other people like it.
1043
00:42:12,657 --> 00:42:14,450
I'm pleased it's
been successful.
1044
00:42:14,450 --> 00:42:15,868
And its reception
1045
00:42:15,868 --> 00:42:17,703
couldn't have been
further from the shadow
1046
00:42:17,703 --> 00:42:19,539
cast by "Temple of Doom."
1047
00:42:19,539 --> 00:42:22,708
Sweetheart, after all
the fun we've had together.
1048
00:42:23,292 --> 00:42:26,337
The franchise
that began in old Hollywood
1049
00:42:28,089 --> 00:42:30,842
had embedded a new
star in the firmament.
1050
00:42:30,842 --> 00:42:32,760
I think Steven was very lucky
1051
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,596
to have Harrison
all the way through.
1052
00:42:35,596 --> 00:42:37,598
I thought I'd lost you, boy.
1053
00:42:37,598 --> 00:42:40,685
You know, having looked at
him closely in that period,
1054
00:42:40,685 --> 00:42:44,355
he has a relaxed "don't give
a fuck" quality about him.
1055
00:42:44,355 --> 00:42:45,523
There's something about that
1056
00:42:45,523 --> 00:42:47,358
that is extremely appealing.
1057
00:42:47,483 --> 00:42:48,526
I owe you a gin.
1058
00:42:48,526 --> 00:42:49,944
Let's not forget
1059
00:42:49,944 --> 00:42:51,612
the people Harrison
brought up with him.
1060
00:42:52,029 --> 00:42:54,073
Indy, my friend.
1061
00:42:54,198 --> 00:42:57,952
{\an8}Ke Huy Quan, to see him
now all these years later,
1062
00:42:58,077 --> 00:43:00,371
and then to get the Oscar.
1063
00:43:00,371 --> 00:43:03,583
And the Oscar
goes to Ke Huy Quan.
1064
00:43:05,585 --> 00:43:07,378
That
thrills me so much.
1065
00:43:07,503 --> 00:43:09,088
He had
become a man of action,
1066
00:43:09,088 --> 00:43:10,798
but to grow as an actor,
1067
00:43:10,798 --> 00:43:13,634
he needed to add another
feather to his fedora.
1068
00:43:13,634 --> 00:43:18,014
Harrison's combination of
action star and thinking man
1069
00:43:18,014 --> 00:43:20,016
made him a perfect Jack Ryan.
1070
00:43:20,141 --> 00:43:21,851
The former carpenter
1071
00:43:21,976 --> 00:43:24,145
who just a few years
earlier didn't know Jack...
1072
00:43:24,145 --> 00:43:26,397
I didn't even know how long
it took to bake a potato.
1073
00:43:26,522 --> 00:43:28,608
Was about
to show the world
1074
00:43:28,608 --> 00:43:30,902
he could be a jack
of all trades.
1075
00:43:31,027 --> 00:43:33,488
How dare you come in
here and lecture me?
1076
00:43:33,613 --> 00:43:34,739
How dare you, sir?
80425
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