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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:09,175 --> 00:00:10,593 "Raiders of the Lost Ark" 2 00:00:10,593 --> 00:00:13,137 introduced Indiana Jones to the world. 3 00:00:13,137 --> 00:00:16,724 The audience screams and goes crazy. 4 00:00:16,724 --> 00:00:19,685 Harrison Ford had taken a gun to a knife fight 5 00:00:20,645 --> 00:00:22,605 and came out smelling of roses. 6 00:00:22,605 --> 00:00:24,774 Yes, you're a man of many talents. 7 00:00:24,899 --> 00:00:26,776 Harrison Ford had a launchpad 8 00:00:26,776 --> 00:00:29,028 and promptly jumped into the future. 9 00:00:29,028 --> 00:00:30,279 I'm Deckard, Blade Runner. 10 00:00:31,447 --> 00:00:33,157 Only to go backwards. 11 00:00:33,157 --> 00:00:34,742 People didn't really understand it. 12 00:00:34,867 --> 00:00:37,412 You people wouldn't believe. 13 00:00:37,412 --> 00:00:39,330 Not merely futuristic, 14 00:00:39,330 --> 00:00:41,791 "Blade Runner" proved to be ahead of its time, 15 00:00:41,791 --> 00:00:44,335 ahead of the critics, and ahead of its audience. 16 00:00:44,460 --> 00:00:45,420 Sort of bombed. 17 00:00:45,545 --> 00:00:46,712 I was devastated. 18 00:00:46,712 --> 00:00:48,339 Embarrassing. 19 00:00:48,464 --> 00:00:49,799 George Lucas's next project 20 00:00:49,799 --> 00:00:51,551 was to span a decade... 21 00:00:51,551 --> 00:00:53,803 He wasn't gonna do anything for 10 years. 22 00:00:53,803 --> 00:00:55,179 ...of sweet nothing. 23 00:00:55,304 --> 00:00:56,639 What the...? 24 00:00:56,764 --> 00:00:58,808 Lucas was shutting down. 25 00:00:58,808 --> 00:01:01,644 He asked me to shut the production office down, which I did. 26 00:01:03,229 --> 00:01:04,313 What am I doing here? 27 00:01:04,313 --> 00:01:05,815 He says, "We're doing nothing." 28 00:01:05,815 --> 00:01:07,483 I have a very bad feeling about this. 29 00:01:08,776 --> 00:01:10,611 Much like "Star Wars," 30 00:01:10,611 --> 00:01:12,822 George conceived "Indiana Jones" as a trilogy. 31 00:01:12,822 --> 00:01:16,784 We know there's going to be three "Indiana Jones" pictures 32 00:01:16,784 --> 00:01:18,578 'cause George has said that. 33 00:01:18,578 --> 00:01:20,830 But was Harrison Ford on the same page? 34 00:01:20,830 --> 00:01:22,540 Harrison has some questions. 35 00:01:22,665 --> 00:01:24,542 {\an8}Having shut down Lucasfilm 36 00:01:24,542 --> 00:01:26,210 {\an8}for the foreseeable future... 37 00:01:26,335 --> 00:01:28,504 It's hard when part of the team leaves. 38 00:01:28,629 --> 00:01:30,047 Of course it is. 39 00:01:30,047 --> 00:01:31,299 Next "Indiana Jones" film 40 00:01:31,299 --> 00:01:32,842 would have to find a new home. 41 00:01:33,009 --> 00:01:35,303 We think we can handle anything, don't we? 42 00:01:35,303 --> 00:01:37,221 And a new voice. 43 00:01:37,346 --> 00:01:38,347 Let me die. 44 00:01:38,347 --> 00:01:40,349 It became a controversy. 45 00:01:40,349 --> 00:01:43,311 But was Indy still speaking the same language? 46 00:01:44,479 --> 00:01:45,855 Exhibitors are calling saying, 47 00:01:45,855 --> 00:01:48,691 "Kids are peeing in their seats." 48 00:02:21,516 --> 00:02:22,850 Following the explosion 49 00:02:22,850 --> 00:02:24,685 of a bomb called "Blade Runner," 50 00:02:24,811 --> 00:02:27,897 {\an8}Harrison Ford's career appeared to suffer collateral damage. 51 00:02:28,147 --> 00:02:30,233 {\an8}I said, "If you had three words, 52 00:02:30,358 --> 00:02:31,734 {\an8}how would you describe your experience on 'Blade Runner'?" 53 00:02:31,859 --> 00:02:35,238 {\an8}And Harrison Ford said, "A total bitch." 54 00:02:35,363 --> 00:02:37,532 While Harrison was dying at the box office... 55 00:02:37,532 --> 00:02:38,866 Finish. 56 00:02:38,991 --> 00:02:40,284 Steven Spielberg's career 57 00:02:40,284 --> 00:02:41,953 also had a brush with death. 58 00:02:42,078 --> 00:02:43,871 All three were killed 59 00:02:43,871 --> 00:02:46,332 when a helicopter crashed, knocked out of control by debris 60 00:02:46,332 --> 00:02:47,917 from a special effects explosion. 61 00:02:47,917 --> 00:02:49,710 John Landis was sued 62 00:02:49,710 --> 00:02:51,504 over the "Twilight Zone" accident. 63 00:02:51,504 --> 00:02:52,922 Kick the can. 64 00:02:52,922 --> 00:02:54,590 And Spielberg's contribution 65 00:02:54,590 --> 00:02:56,759 to the same movie was panned. 66 00:02:57,385 --> 00:02:58,386 Oh my God. 67 00:02:59,303 --> 00:03:02,390 George Lucas's problems were more offscreen 68 00:03:02,390 --> 00:03:04,642 and definitely off script. 69 00:03:04,767 --> 00:03:05,893 {\an8}They were always around together. 70 00:03:05,893 --> 00:03:08,604 {\an8}So I guess when the news broke, 71 00:03:08,604 --> 00:03:10,481 everybody was pretty sad about it. 72 00:03:11,190 --> 00:03:13,776 Marcia and George had told stories together. 73 00:03:13,776 --> 00:03:15,695 Someone who loves you. 74 00:03:15,695 --> 00:03:18,448 All the while writing their own fairy tales. 75 00:03:18,573 --> 00:03:20,491 They were madly in love with each other. 76 00:03:20,491 --> 00:03:21,826 {\an8}They were a team. 77 00:03:21,826 --> 00:03:23,411 {\an8}They were a pair. 78 00:03:25,621 --> 00:03:27,248 Big surprise. 79 00:03:27,248 --> 00:03:29,667 Now the story was ending. 80 00:03:29,667 --> 00:03:31,919 {\an8}I think he told people that I had an affair. 81 00:03:34,422 --> 00:03:35,673 It wasn't true. 82 00:03:35,798 --> 00:03:37,925 When I left George, he was very angry. 83 00:03:37,925 --> 00:03:41,304 He didn't want this separation or the divorce, 84 00:03:41,304 --> 00:03:45,349 and he never much validated anything I ever did. 85 00:03:45,349 --> 00:03:46,768 That's all I'm gonna say about George 86 00:03:46,768 --> 00:03:47,894 'cause he is a brilliant film director. 87 00:03:47,894 --> 00:03:49,604 He's wonderful. 88 00:03:49,604 --> 00:03:51,397 But the bond between George Lucas 89 00:03:51,397 --> 00:03:54,650 and Steven Spielberg seemed as unshakable 90 00:03:54,776 --> 00:03:56,277 as it was lucrative. 91 00:03:56,277 --> 00:03:57,737 They understood each other. 92 00:03:57,737 --> 00:03:59,864 They understood the challenges of everything 93 00:03:59,989 --> 00:04:02,325 from story to production. 94 00:04:02,325 --> 00:04:04,869 No friction whatsoever. 95 00:04:04,994 --> 00:04:06,829 Once you direct a movie 96 00:04:06,954 --> 00:04:09,874 and somebody else directs a movie, there's an instant bond. 97 00:04:09,999 --> 00:04:11,793 But it is so hard to do. 98 00:04:12,335 --> 00:04:14,796 So hard, Lucas now preferred 99 00:04:14,796 --> 00:04:16,589 not to sit in the director's chair. 100 00:04:18,007 --> 00:04:20,551 George, more so when he was younger, 101 00:04:20,551 --> 00:04:22,637 {\an8}he was very shy and he found it hard 102 00:04:22,637 --> 00:04:24,847 {\an8}to talk to actors and so forth. 103 00:04:24,972 --> 00:04:26,516 Almost an introvert, 104 00:04:26,641 --> 00:04:29,060 doesn't like to communicate with people, 105 00:04:29,185 --> 00:04:31,270 even the people who work for him. 106 00:04:31,270 --> 00:04:33,981 {\an8}George is more cerebral, 107 00:04:33,981 --> 00:04:37,026 and Steven has a very intuitive sense. 108 00:04:37,151 --> 00:04:38,569 And I think they get along well 109 00:04:38,694 --> 00:04:40,029 because they're opposites. 110 00:04:40,154 --> 00:04:42,532 In Spielberg, Lucas had an ally 111 00:04:42,657 --> 00:04:45,743 to embody the director he no longer wanted to be. 112 00:04:45,868 --> 00:04:49,288 They both completely can make an audience come to them. 113 00:04:49,288 --> 00:04:51,040 Producing the picture 114 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,876 that would bring in the next audience now fell to Steven. 115 00:04:54,001 --> 00:04:56,003 With Lucasfilm in hibernation, 116 00:04:56,003 --> 00:04:58,297 Spielberg's Amblin Entertainment 117 00:04:58,297 --> 00:05:00,633 took the reins for Indy's next adventure. 118 00:05:00,633 --> 00:05:03,719 {\an8}Our small company, we weren't Paramount, 119 00:05:03,719 --> 00:05:06,806 {\an8}we weren't Universal, we were Lucasfilm and Amblin. 120 00:05:06,806 --> 00:05:08,433 Returning executives 121 00:05:08,433 --> 00:05:11,811 included producer Frank "Dr. Fantasy" Marshall. 122 00:05:11,811 --> 00:05:14,021 Frank had been a location manager. 123 00:05:14,021 --> 00:05:16,691 And Kathleen Kennedy, both on the up. 124 00:05:16,691 --> 00:05:19,402 {\an8}Kathleen had started as a PA. 125 00:05:19,527 --> 00:05:22,071 Kathy was Steven's assistant on the first one. 126 00:05:22,739 --> 00:05:25,741 And she was so good, Steven relied on her so much 127 00:05:25,741 --> 00:05:28,578 {\an8}she then, you know, became an associate producer. 128 00:05:28,703 --> 00:05:31,831 Kathleen and Frank, they were a positive duo. 129 00:05:31,831 --> 00:05:34,459 They understood exactly what was going on. 130 00:05:34,584 --> 00:05:35,918 The story for the second film 131 00:05:36,043 --> 00:05:37,545 would be very different. 132 00:05:37,545 --> 00:05:39,088 It would have to be, 133 00:05:39,088 --> 00:05:41,758 following the departure of writer, Lawrence Kasdan. 134 00:05:41,883 --> 00:05:43,092 I think he'd had enough. 135 00:05:43,718 --> 00:05:45,595 But the screenwriting life 136 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,431 was only getting richer for another writer 137 00:05:48,556 --> 00:05:50,683 whose career stretched back all the way 138 00:05:50,683 --> 00:05:53,436 to Lucas's earliest days. 139 00:05:53,436 --> 00:05:55,938 I met George in film school at USC. 140 00:05:56,689 --> 00:05:59,066 Willard was one half of a partnership 141 00:05:59,066 --> 00:06:01,569 destined to write for a-listers, 142 00:06:01,569 --> 00:06:03,780 but it all began with a B movie. 143 00:06:03,780 --> 00:06:05,656 You talk too much. 144 00:06:05,656 --> 00:06:09,786 Roger Corman was showing a rough cut of "Wild Angels." 145 00:06:09,911 --> 00:06:11,788 A friend of mine, he knew Gloria 146 00:06:11,913 --> 00:06:14,999 and she had just returned from a trip to Europe 147 00:06:15,124 --> 00:06:17,502 and was wearing one of the first miniskirts 148 00:06:17,627 --> 00:06:19,003 I'd ever seen. 149 00:06:19,003 --> 00:06:21,506 So I fell in love immediately. 150 00:06:21,506 --> 00:06:22,924 Willard and Gloria 151 00:06:22,924 --> 00:06:24,967 would go on to deliver George a hit. 152 00:06:24,967 --> 00:06:26,135 You'll be hanging on for mercy 153 00:06:26,260 --> 00:06:27,804 when I get this sucker rolling. 154 00:06:27,929 --> 00:06:29,680 Scripting "American Graffiti." 155 00:06:29,806 --> 00:06:31,390 We were the only writers 156 00:06:31,390 --> 00:06:33,476 he knew in Hollywood, I think. 157 00:06:33,601 --> 00:06:35,478 But the second "Indiana Jones" movie 158 00:06:35,478 --> 00:06:36,938 was not moving forward yet. 159 00:06:36,938 --> 00:06:38,648 Decisions were made. 160 00:06:38,773 --> 00:06:40,566 Because it was moving backwards first. 161 00:06:40,566 --> 00:06:42,485 He didn't want to do Nazis again. 162 00:06:42,610 --> 00:06:44,946 I don't know, I think they were bored with that--. 163 00:06:44,946 --> 00:06:46,823 Bored by Nazis too, 164 00:06:46,823 --> 00:06:49,909 the next "Indiana Jones" would need new villains 165 00:06:49,909 --> 00:06:52,787 to go with its new setting on a different continent. 166 00:06:52,787 --> 00:06:54,705 Oh, where are we anyway? 167 00:06:54,831 --> 00:06:56,791 Gloria and I were art collectors 168 00:06:56,916 --> 00:06:58,709 and we collect a lot of Indian stuff. 169 00:06:58,709 --> 00:07:00,128 George heard "Indian" and he said, 170 00:07:00,128 --> 00:07:01,838 "I'd like to set this in India." 171 00:07:01,838 --> 00:07:04,465 He has brought you here. 172 00:07:04,465 --> 00:07:05,550 It became a prequel. 173 00:07:07,176 --> 00:07:09,011 Set in the '30s before the first film, 174 00:07:09,137 --> 00:07:11,681 but not for the reasons you might think. 175 00:07:12,348 --> 00:07:15,184 Because of the films we love from that era. 176 00:07:15,184 --> 00:07:17,687 We always considered the golden years. 177 00:07:18,980 --> 00:07:20,898 And George thought it would be cool 178 00:07:21,023 --> 00:07:25,736 to have 1930s cars instead of '60s cars. 179 00:07:25,862 --> 00:07:27,238 Spielberg had an idea 180 00:07:27,363 --> 00:07:29,907 that could not have been more old Hollywood. 181 00:07:30,032 --> 00:07:32,577 Steven always wanted to do a dance number. 182 00:07:32,702 --> 00:07:34,036 He wanted to do a musical. 183 00:07:36,038 --> 00:07:38,166 He wanted to do a nightclub scene. 184 00:07:38,166 --> 00:07:39,876 The golden era feel 185 00:07:40,001 --> 00:07:42,086 called for a new golden girl. 186 00:07:42,211 --> 00:07:45,173 They also wanted the heroine to be different 187 00:07:45,173 --> 00:07:47,216 than Ravenwood in the first one. 188 00:07:47,341 --> 00:07:50,178 They wanted her to be a Jean Harlow kind of ditz. 189 00:07:50,178 --> 00:07:51,846 I've told you a million times 190 00:07:51,846 --> 00:07:54,098 not to talk to me when I'm doing my lashes. 191 00:07:54,223 --> 00:07:57,768 So they made her as obnoxious and silly as possible. 192 00:07:58,936 --> 00:08:00,772 Wait a second! Indy! 193 00:08:00,772 --> 00:08:01,898 Which they overdid. 194 00:08:01,898 --> 00:08:03,775 This is Willie Scott. 195 00:08:03,900 --> 00:08:06,486 The name continued an unlikely arms race 196 00:08:06,611 --> 00:08:08,821 that started on "Raiders of the Lost Ark." 197 00:08:08,821 --> 00:08:10,740 Indiana. 198 00:08:10,740 --> 00:08:13,868 It started because Indiana was George's dog. 199 00:08:14,702 --> 00:08:17,747 And then Steven said, "Well I want to name the girl... 200 00:08:17,872 --> 00:08:19,082 Willie, Willie. 201 00:08:19,082 --> 00:08:20,750 "After my dog, Willie." 202 00:08:20,750 --> 00:08:22,710 So Willard figured it was his turn. 203 00:08:22,710 --> 00:08:26,130 We had a dog who was named after a Korean kid 204 00:08:26,255 --> 00:08:28,132 who was in a film called "Steel Helmet." 205 00:08:28,132 --> 00:08:29,717 I ain't got no chocolate, Short Round. 206 00:08:29,717 --> 00:08:32,094 It's a short round of ammunition 207 00:08:32,094 --> 00:08:34,639 that doesn't fire properly. 208 00:08:34,764 --> 00:08:36,224 And that canine connection 209 00:08:36,224 --> 00:08:38,101 brought us the character of... 210 00:08:38,101 --> 00:08:39,936 Short Round. 211 00:08:39,936 --> 00:08:42,772 But the script still had no teeth. 212 00:08:42,772 --> 00:08:44,941 Well yeah, we had no story. 213 00:08:44,941 --> 00:08:48,820 It was just us and George and Steve sitting by the pool 214 00:08:48,945 --> 00:08:51,030 naming characters after our dogs, 215 00:08:51,030 --> 00:08:53,574 trying to figure out what the story meant. 216 00:08:54,409 --> 00:08:57,120 They had an idea, I don't know if it was George or Steven, 217 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,540 about Indy doing something good for kids. 218 00:09:00,540 --> 00:09:03,084 He says they stole their children. 219 00:09:03,084 --> 00:09:06,129 And so we had to work kids in a Byzantine way 220 00:09:06,129 --> 00:09:09,006 where they were looking for the Sankara Stones. 221 00:09:09,006 --> 00:09:10,800 So that's what you've got these slaves 222 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,260 digging for, huh? 223 00:09:12,260 --> 00:09:14,011 Just like George, 224 00:09:14,137 --> 00:09:17,140 Steven was also reeling from a breakup of his own 225 00:09:17,140 --> 00:09:20,685 between him and music executive, Kathleen Carey. 226 00:09:20,810 --> 00:09:23,271 Could not have been easy on those two guys. 227 00:09:23,271 --> 00:09:25,314 They were ready to push boundaries 228 00:09:25,314 --> 00:09:27,275 like never before. 229 00:09:27,275 --> 00:09:32,989 Maybe if Marcia was there, it might have been less darker. 230 00:09:33,156 --> 00:09:34,866 But the presence of children 231 00:09:34,866 --> 00:09:37,034 wasn't going to lighten the mood for two writers 232 00:09:37,034 --> 00:09:40,997 encouraged to put more crack in Indy's whip. 233 00:09:40,997 --> 00:09:43,040 At one point it was "Temple of Death," 234 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,169 but they decided that was even worse. 235 00:09:46,169 --> 00:09:48,796 So it was the "Temple of Doom." 236 00:09:50,798 --> 00:09:53,885 So the sequel, which was actually a prequel... 237 00:09:54,010 --> 00:09:55,303 This is Indiana Jones. 238 00:09:55,303 --> 00:09:57,054 ...needed to be fresh. 239 00:09:57,180 --> 00:09:59,265 So what are you supposed to be, a lion tamer? 240 00:09:59,390 --> 00:10:01,684 It was set to be more classical in parts. 241 00:10:02,810 --> 00:10:04,020 Lighter on one note. 242 00:10:08,149 --> 00:10:09,192 But darker overall. 243 00:10:11,027 --> 00:10:13,821 And yet suitable for kids on screen and off. 244 00:10:13,821 --> 00:10:16,073 That wasn't so bad, was it? 245 00:10:16,199 --> 00:10:19,786 Not to mention a rip-roaring action adventure. 246 00:10:21,287 --> 00:10:22,705 We knew Indy had to be after something. 247 00:10:22,705 --> 00:10:24,082 It's a stone, a sacred stone. 248 00:10:24,082 --> 00:10:26,209 And we knew we needed the bad guys. 249 00:10:26,209 --> 00:10:28,252 Of course, bad guys. 250 00:10:28,377 --> 00:10:30,004 But believe it or not, 251 00:10:30,004 --> 00:10:32,006 they still hadn't confirmed their good guy. 252 00:10:32,006 --> 00:10:35,176 Well, the big thing there was we had to have it done fast 253 00:10:35,176 --> 00:10:37,094 or Harrison wasn't gonna do it. 254 00:10:37,220 --> 00:10:39,847 I suggest you give me what you owe me, 255 00:10:39,972 --> 00:10:41,766 or anything goes. 256 00:10:41,766 --> 00:10:45,394 From two or three days, we just wrote the first draft. 257 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,855 But with a script that was strictly a WIP 258 00:10:47,855 --> 00:10:50,024 and not yet one with any crack... 259 00:10:50,024 --> 00:10:51,776 Put him down! 260 00:10:51,901 --> 00:10:53,903 Could Harrison Ford even be convinced 261 00:10:53,903 --> 00:10:55,780 to don the fedora again? 262 00:10:55,905 --> 00:10:58,157 First of all, George made a terrible tactical error. 263 00:10:58,282 --> 00:11:00,868 George Lucas decided the way to find out 264 00:11:00,868 --> 00:11:02,703 was to crack the whip himself. 265 00:11:02,703 --> 00:11:04,747 He's not the most polite. 266 00:11:04,747 --> 00:11:07,750 We were at dinner and he threw down this script 267 00:11:07,750 --> 00:11:10,753 and said, "Here's your next movie, Harrison." 268 00:11:12,130 --> 00:11:14,173 I think Harrison was a little upset. 269 00:11:18,052 --> 00:11:19,971 Writers Willard Huyck and Gloria Katz 270 00:11:19,971 --> 00:11:22,682 had a script their producers were happy with. 271 00:11:22,682 --> 00:11:24,267 But there was someone else 272 00:11:24,392 --> 00:11:26,352 George and Steven needed to convince. 273 00:11:26,352 --> 00:11:28,646 He threw down this script and said, 274 00:11:28,646 --> 00:11:31,149 "Here's your next movie, Harrison." 275 00:11:31,274 --> 00:11:33,317 They were both very nervous about Harrison 276 00:11:33,317 --> 00:11:36,696 because, you know, Harrison's like a real guy. 277 00:11:36,821 --> 00:11:38,656 Meaning, he was not afraid 278 00:11:38,656 --> 00:11:40,324 to ask uncomfortable questions. 279 00:11:40,324 --> 00:11:42,660 When we wrote the first draft, 280 00:11:42,660 --> 00:11:45,204 we were told that Harrison has some questions. 281 00:11:45,204 --> 00:11:46,956 Despite a terse exchange 282 00:11:46,956 --> 00:11:48,750 with George Lucas over dinner... 283 00:11:48,750 --> 00:11:50,209 They didn't wanna lose him. 284 00:11:50,334 --> 00:11:51,711 Harrison Ford was lined up 285 00:11:51,711 --> 00:11:53,421 - for "The Temple of Doom." - Stop. 286 00:11:53,421 --> 00:11:55,089 And for the casting director, 287 00:11:55,089 --> 00:11:58,176 finding the leading lady meant revisiting a face 288 00:11:58,176 --> 00:12:01,095 she'd admired in past roles. 289 00:12:01,220 --> 00:12:04,056 I had just seen Kate Capshaw in this movie 290 00:12:04,182 --> 00:12:05,725 called "The Windy City," 291 00:12:05,850 --> 00:12:08,102 and I thought she had a lot of spark. 292 00:12:08,227 --> 00:12:09,437 Dear God, there's gotta be 293 00:12:09,562 --> 00:12:11,355 some old fashioned men out there. 294 00:12:11,355 --> 00:12:13,983 {\an8}She came in and she was just utterly delightful. 295 00:12:14,108 --> 00:12:16,360 {\an8}There's just sun rays coming out of her. 296 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,488 {\an8}What Marci had picked up on 297 00:12:18,488 --> 00:12:22,158 {\an8}was going to change not only Spielberg's movie... 298 00:12:22,158 --> 00:12:23,409 Oh, Indy. 299 00:12:23,534 --> 00:12:24,911 But his life. 300 00:12:25,036 --> 00:12:26,954 Steven fell for her for the role 301 00:12:26,954 --> 00:12:29,248 and for life at that moment. 302 00:12:29,248 --> 00:12:32,752 Just when my career is starting to pay off, you come along. 303 00:12:32,877 --> 00:12:35,797 {\an8}I really saw a spark there. 304 00:12:35,797 --> 00:12:38,299 Mr. Spielberg, how does it feel directing a musical? 305 00:12:38,424 --> 00:12:39,967 Well, it feels just swell. 306 00:12:41,219 --> 00:12:43,096 You know, sometimes you do. 307 00:12:43,221 --> 00:12:45,932 And I saw a spark there between the director and the actor. 308 00:12:46,057 --> 00:12:47,350 Like Lucas, 309 00:12:47,475 --> 00:12:49,227 Steven was in the middle of a breakup 310 00:12:49,227 --> 00:12:51,896 and it would leave its mark on the story ahead. 311 00:12:55,983 --> 00:12:57,235 While that casting decision 312 00:12:57,235 --> 00:12:59,320 seemed to be written in the stars... 313 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,405 I put together an open call in Los Angeles 314 00:13:01,405 --> 00:13:03,241 for the role of Short Round. 315 00:13:03,366 --> 00:13:05,993 ...Marci was looking to create a new star. 316 00:13:05,993 --> 00:13:09,205 We had been around the world, quite honestly, 317 00:13:09,205 --> 00:13:11,082 searching for this kid. 318 00:13:12,875 --> 00:13:15,169 We were seeing hundreds of kids. 319 00:13:15,294 --> 00:13:16,879 But I'm looking at the kid 320 00:13:17,004 --> 00:13:19,090 who wasn't coming that day to audition. 321 00:13:19,090 --> 00:13:21,843 12-year-old Ke Huy Quan. 322 00:13:21,843 --> 00:13:24,095 I said, "Why don't you come in and do it also?" 323 00:13:24,095 --> 00:13:25,847 And he's like, "No, I'm fine." 324 00:13:25,847 --> 00:13:27,515 You know, he just, it wasn't why he was there. 325 00:13:27,515 --> 00:13:29,058 He was there to support his brother. 326 00:13:30,768 --> 00:13:33,271 And so I talked Ke Huy Quan into auditioning. 327 00:13:33,271 --> 00:13:36,899 He wasn't nervous, but he couldn't really read that well. 328 00:13:36,899 --> 00:13:39,402 And so we just started talking to him. 329 00:13:39,527 --> 00:13:42,572 And in my head I'm going, "Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God." 330 00:13:42,572 --> 00:13:44,365 {\an8}He was mischievous. 331 00:13:44,365 --> 00:13:46,284 {\an8}He started talking to Harrison 332 00:13:46,284 --> 00:13:50,371 and Steven had them do an improvisation playing cards. 333 00:13:50,371 --> 00:13:53,374 And Harrison is cheating and putting cards up his sleeve. 334 00:13:53,374 --> 00:13:55,126 You cheat! Pay money! 335 00:13:55,126 --> 00:13:56,961 - Are you saying that I cheated? - Yes! 336 00:13:57,086 --> 00:14:00,298 And instinctually, Ke just knew to call him on it 337 00:14:01,299 --> 00:14:03,092 and be really mad, 338 00:14:03,092 --> 00:14:04,969 and be really forceful about, "You're a cheater." 339 00:14:04,969 --> 00:14:06,220 Can you prove I cheated? 340 00:14:06,220 --> 00:14:07,263 Yes, I saw it! 341 00:14:07,388 --> 00:14:08,806 You saw what? 342 00:14:08,806 --> 00:14:10,433 I saw you just put a hand in there. 343 00:14:10,558 --> 00:14:12,268 The youngster's improvisation 344 00:14:12,268 --> 00:14:14,479 was so impressive it had to be good 345 00:14:14,479 --> 00:14:16,314 for more than a mere audition. 346 00:14:16,439 --> 00:14:19,108 The scene ended up ultimately in the movie. 347 00:14:19,108 --> 00:14:20,234 No mistake! Mistake? 348 00:14:20,234 --> 00:14:21,277 I'm very little! 349 00:14:21,277 --> 00:14:22,862 You cheat very big! 350 00:14:22,987 --> 00:14:24,489 I think I'm very lucky. 351 00:14:24,489 --> 00:14:26,282 And I'm number seven in my family. 352 00:14:26,407 --> 00:14:28,076 That's a lucky number. 353 00:14:28,076 --> 00:14:29,952 And for the dark priest, Mola Ram, 354 00:14:29,952 --> 00:14:32,580 Spielberg and Lucas found their perfect choice 355 00:14:32,580 --> 00:14:35,208 in Indian actor Amrish Puri. 356 00:14:35,333 --> 00:14:38,795 You don't believe me? 357 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,380 With the "Temple of Doom" cast coming together, 358 00:14:41,380 --> 00:14:44,175 everything was falling into place until... 359 00:14:44,175 --> 00:14:46,093 I think we got a big problem. 360 00:14:46,093 --> 00:14:48,596 ...Willard received a call from George Lucas. 361 00:14:48,721 --> 00:14:50,515 He said, "We have trouble. 362 00:14:50,515 --> 00:14:52,934 We're not gonna be able to shoot in India." 363 00:14:53,059 --> 00:14:55,061 The Indian authorities objected 364 00:14:55,061 --> 00:14:58,481 to the film's fanciful depictions of human sacrifice. 365 00:14:58,481 --> 00:15:00,608 Some poor guy barbecued. 366 00:15:00,608 --> 00:15:02,276 And black magic. 367 00:15:04,195 --> 00:15:06,614 Refusing permission to shoot in the country. 368 00:15:06,614 --> 00:15:09,200 So they shot the movie in Sri Lanka instead. 369 00:15:10,660 --> 00:15:11,869 And so production began 370 00:15:11,869 --> 00:15:15,206 in Sri Lanka in April of 1983. 371 00:15:15,206 --> 00:15:18,126 And the heartbreak of both Steven and George 372 00:15:18,126 --> 00:15:21,921 would immediately leave its mark on the film. 373 00:15:21,921 --> 00:15:24,340 Could not have been easy on those two guys. 374 00:15:24,465 --> 00:15:26,634 Willard got to keep his favorite lines. 375 00:15:26,634 --> 00:15:29,470 My favorite line, which I will take credit for, was... 376 00:15:29,470 --> 00:15:31,597 You're not eating? 377 00:15:31,722 --> 00:15:34,183 Where she says, "No, thank you." 378 00:15:34,183 --> 00:15:35,393 I had bugs for lunch. 379 00:15:36,561 --> 00:15:38,062 It was a good line, 380 00:15:38,062 --> 00:15:40,022 but the scene needed more than gore. 381 00:15:40,148 --> 00:15:41,399 See? Surprise. 382 00:15:41,399 --> 00:15:43,317 And they realized, and so they said, 383 00:15:43,317 --> 00:15:45,653 "Shoot, we need an insert of somebody eating the eels." 384 00:15:45,653 --> 00:15:47,196 {\an8}And they said, "You wanna do that?" 385 00:15:47,321 --> 00:15:48,406 {\an8}I went, "Heck, yeah!" 386 00:15:48,698 --> 00:15:50,491 They got Caecilian worms from a fish shop. 387 00:15:50,491 --> 00:15:52,410 And here I am still talking about it 388 00:15:52,535 --> 00:15:54,036 decades later. 389 00:15:54,036 --> 00:15:55,913 And the film's edgier tone 390 00:15:55,913 --> 00:16:00,001 wasn't just on screen, it carried behind the scenes too. 391 00:16:00,001 --> 00:16:01,294 We got company! 392 00:16:01,294 --> 00:16:03,045 The mine car stunt... 393 00:16:03,045 --> 00:16:04,505 Indy! 394 00:16:05,339 --> 00:16:07,633 Incredibly complicated. 395 00:16:08,384 --> 00:16:11,053 They finally came out onto the cliff face, 396 00:16:11,053 --> 00:16:12,930 water shooting out next to them. 397 00:16:12,930 --> 00:16:15,516 Which certainly looked precarious, 398 00:16:15,641 --> 00:16:17,560 but it was not when Harrison Ford 399 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,520 really needed to watch his step. 400 00:16:19,645 --> 00:16:22,106 And suddenly there's the bridge. 401 00:16:22,231 --> 00:16:24,525 And now we're in another gigantic sequence. 402 00:16:24,650 --> 00:16:27,236 That came when Steadicam operator, 403 00:16:27,361 --> 00:16:30,073 Garrett Brown, and Harrison met on a bridge 404 00:16:30,073 --> 00:16:32,658 for an intimate near death experience. 405 00:16:32,658 --> 00:16:35,620 {\an8}This is a business like warfare. 406 00:16:35,620 --> 00:16:39,957 {\an8}You have a job to do and there are occasionally hazards. 407 00:16:39,957 --> 00:16:41,542 And on this occasion, 408 00:16:41,667 --> 00:16:45,630 the hazard was about 60 yards of rope, wood, and wire 409 00:16:45,630 --> 00:16:47,965 hanging over a raging river. 410 00:16:47,965 --> 00:16:50,134 There's a famous gorge that had been used 411 00:16:50,134 --> 00:16:52,011 on "Bridge on the River Kwai." 412 00:16:52,011 --> 00:16:54,472 A sense of history is not the main reason 413 00:16:54,472 --> 00:16:57,058 the crew found themselves on the same river. 414 00:16:57,058 --> 00:16:59,310 They picked it partly because of its proximity 415 00:16:59,435 --> 00:17:02,146 to a giant company that was building a dam 416 00:17:02,146 --> 00:17:03,731 just up the river. 417 00:17:03,731 --> 00:17:05,733 ILM was back for "Temple of Doom," 418 00:17:05,733 --> 00:17:09,403 but a stunt like this went beyond their bag of tricks. 419 00:17:09,403 --> 00:17:12,448 {\an8}The engineers from the dam helped our special effects guys 420 00:17:12,573 --> 00:17:15,576 {\an8}build the rope bridge, put the two cables across 421 00:17:15,576 --> 00:17:17,411 {\an8}that supported it. 422 00:17:17,411 --> 00:17:18,996 When I first saw the thing, 423 00:17:18,996 --> 00:17:20,498 there were spaces between the boards 424 00:17:20,498 --> 00:17:22,417 as big as the boards themselves. 425 00:17:22,417 --> 00:17:24,210 The engineers built a bridge 426 00:17:24,210 --> 00:17:27,463 perfect for Spielberg's high wire set piece, 427 00:17:27,463 --> 00:17:30,216 but not perfect for his acute vertigo. 428 00:17:30,216 --> 00:17:32,343 Come on! Let's go! 429 00:17:32,468 --> 00:17:34,137 He was not happy about being on the bridge. 430 00:17:34,137 --> 00:17:35,513 Real scary. 431 00:17:35,513 --> 00:17:37,140 It's very bouncy, Steve. 432 00:17:37,140 --> 00:17:38,683 Very bouncy. 433 00:17:38,683 --> 00:17:41,185 There was a lot of shouting from the sidelines. 434 00:17:41,310 --> 00:17:43,187 Come on! 435 00:17:43,187 --> 00:17:44,814 But the catch was, 436 00:17:44,814 --> 00:17:46,691 which the other guys didn't know from the dam, 437 00:17:46,691 --> 00:17:51,154 was the special effects guy had to put exploding bolts 438 00:17:51,279 --> 00:17:52,697 in the wire, 439 00:17:52,697 --> 00:17:55,158 because at some point it had to break, didn't it? 440 00:17:55,158 --> 00:17:56,617 But exploding bolts 441 00:17:56,617 --> 00:17:58,661 was not what made the scene so dangerous 442 00:17:58,661 --> 00:18:00,037 for its leading man. 443 00:18:00,037 --> 00:18:01,789 Harrison's weight, 444 00:18:01,789 --> 00:18:04,292 and I'm guessing he might have weighed 210 at that point. 445 00:18:04,417 --> 00:18:09,464 I weighed, probably accumulated 240 or 50 with the gear. 446 00:18:10,631 --> 00:18:12,508 You know, those thin looking boards, 447 00:18:12,633 --> 00:18:15,470 it wasn't trivial to either one of us to run on that bridge. 448 00:18:15,470 --> 00:18:17,388 And it wasn't a trivial matter 449 00:18:17,388 --> 00:18:20,558 when the scene in the film came true for Harrison Ford. 450 00:18:20,558 --> 00:18:21,642 Oh, shit. 451 00:18:21,767 --> 00:18:23,561 Not that part. 452 00:18:23,561 --> 00:18:26,314 Something dangerously similar that wasn't in the script. 453 00:18:29,650 --> 00:18:32,153 Steadicam operator Garrett Brown 454 00:18:32,153 --> 00:18:35,740 was filming Harrison Ford standing on a flimsy wire bridge 455 00:18:35,865 --> 00:18:37,492 over a raging river... 456 00:18:37,617 --> 00:18:39,368 I'm amazed I'm still alive. 457 00:18:39,494 --> 00:18:42,705 ...when Harrison Ford's life almost imitated art 458 00:18:42,830 --> 00:18:44,582 as it flashed in front of him. 459 00:18:44,707 --> 00:18:47,543 The board broke, his leg went down through the gap. 460 00:18:49,212 --> 00:18:51,422 {\an8}Harrison apparently just decided to ignore it. 461 00:18:51,422 --> 00:18:53,716 {\an8}He was acting all the way down to the crotch 462 00:18:53,841 --> 00:18:55,593 and I was shooting. 463 00:18:57,345 --> 00:18:59,055 You go into a sort of self-protective mode, 464 00:18:59,055 --> 00:19:02,058 but you're also in the middle of doing a job. 465 00:19:02,183 --> 00:19:04,102 And that's the shot, Garrett! 466 00:19:04,227 --> 00:19:05,561 As was Harrison. 467 00:19:05,561 --> 00:19:07,271 Until the word "cut" appears, 468 00:19:07,271 --> 00:19:08,856 that might turn out to be something. 469 00:19:08,856 --> 00:19:10,525 They might use it in the movie. 470 00:19:10,525 --> 00:19:12,527 You know, I could almost see it on his face. 471 00:19:12,527 --> 00:19:15,571 I'm sure Steven, was first of all, embarrassed 472 00:19:15,696 --> 00:19:17,615 because Harrison had said, "Is it safe?" 473 00:19:17,740 --> 00:19:20,409 And Steven had said, "Yes, it's perfectly safe." 474 00:19:20,409 --> 00:19:22,203 Now, the director had to prove that 475 00:19:22,203 --> 00:19:24,122 to his leading man. 476 00:19:24,247 --> 00:19:26,457 We watched the heaviest grips they had jump on the boards 477 00:19:26,582 --> 00:19:27,667 and then kaboom. 478 00:19:27,667 --> 00:19:29,460 We went back to work. 479 00:19:29,585 --> 00:19:30,878 Which meant they could shoot for show 480 00:19:30,878 --> 00:19:32,755 what nearly happened for real. 481 00:19:32,755 --> 00:19:34,382 Alright, here we go. 482 00:19:34,382 --> 00:19:35,800 And this time it was controlled. 483 00:19:35,925 --> 00:19:37,885 - Exploding bolts. - Mostly. 484 00:19:38,094 --> 00:19:40,346 {\an8}We weren't too sure when the exploding bolts 485 00:19:40,346 --> 00:19:42,306 - were gonna work. - Action! 486 00:19:42,306 --> 00:19:44,308 Hang on, lady. We going for a ride. 487 00:19:44,308 --> 00:19:46,602 Oh! What are you doing? 488 00:19:46,602 --> 00:19:48,438 But they did perfectly. 489 00:19:48,438 --> 00:19:51,274 And the whole thing fell. 490 00:19:51,399 --> 00:19:53,568 But don't worry. 491 00:19:53,568 --> 00:19:55,445 There wasn't anybody physically on the bridge. 492 00:19:55,445 --> 00:19:56,904 They were all dummies. 493 00:19:57,447 --> 00:19:59,532 But not your average dummies, 494 00:19:59,532 --> 00:20:01,284 slightly smarter ones. 495 00:20:01,409 --> 00:20:03,828 You'll notice some arms and legs moving 496 00:20:03,953 --> 00:20:05,788 of some of the dummies that are falling. 497 00:20:07,790 --> 00:20:10,251 'Cause they'd made six of these animatronic dummies. 498 00:20:11,711 --> 00:20:13,629 Harrison dodged one disaster. 499 00:20:13,755 --> 00:20:16,132 I've got some good news and I've got some bad news. 500 00:20:16,257 --> 00:20:18,801 But another was waiting just around the corner. 501 00:20:18,926 --> 00:20:20,762 {\an8}He hurt himself badly. 502 00:20:20,762 --> 00:20:24,307 {\an8}He hurt himself to the point where he was really in pain. 503 00:20:24,307 --> 00:20:27,310 Good news is Harrison Ford is fine. 504 00:20:27,435 --> 00:20:29,145 A herniated disc inflicted 505 00:20:29,270 --> 00:20:31,147 during the shooting of this fight scene 506 00:20:31,147 --> 00:20:32,648 brought shooting to a halt. 507 00:20:32,774 --> 00:20:34,484 And the bad news is, 508 00:20:34,484 --> 00:20:36,652 he needs until August 8th to get back into shape. 509 00:20:36,652 --> 00:20:39,655 The injury required surgery in L.A. 510 00:20:39,655 --> 00:20:41,407 {\an8}For Steven, it's hard. 511 00:20:41,407 --> 00:20:43,284 {\an8}Everything has to be rescheduled. 512 00:20:43,284 --> 00:20:45,828 {\an8}You try to shoot around a person as long as you can. 513 00:20:45,828 --> 00:20:47,497 But really, 514 00:20:47,497 --> 00:20:49,373 this might've been a long time coming. 515 00:20:49,373 --> 00:20:51,542 I think a lot of what he did 516 00:20:52,877 --> 00:20:54,212 would've hurt anybody's back, you know? 517 00:20:54,712 --> 00:20:56,547 It was extremely athletic. 518 00:20:56,672 --> 00:20:58,716 Spielberg was helped by the fact 519 00:20:58,841 --> 00:21:00,635 Harrison's stunt double... 520 00:21:00,635 --> 00:21:03,554 The double we had for him was a guy called Vic Armstrong. 521 00:21:03,679 --> 00:21:05,848 ...was exactly what a director needs 522 00:21:05,848 --> 00:21:07,350 a stunt double to be. 523 00:21:07,475 --> 00:21:09,519 The spitting image of Harrison. 524 00:21:09,644 --> 00:21:10,978 You could shoot a scene with Vic 525 00:21:10,978 --> 00:21:12,647 and you're convinced it's Harrison. 526 00:21:12,647 --> 00:21:14,732 So it didn't affect us much. 527 00:21:14,857 --> 00:21:16,943 Despite losing six weeks with Harrison... 528 00:21:16,943 --> 00:21:19,695 Steven braved through it. 529 00:21:19,821 --> 00:21:21,614 That was great, but my heart stopped. 530 00:21:21,614 --> 00:21:23,741 ...and managed to finish the film. 531 00:21:24,033 --> 00:21:26,702 Principal photography on "The Temple of Doom" 532 00:21:26,702 --> 00:21:29,497 wrapped in September of 1983. 533 00:21:29,497 --> 00:21:32,542 And for once, Spielberg wasn't making headlines 534 00:21:32,667 --> 00:21:34,377 for going over budget. 535 00:21:34,377 --> 00:21:37,547 "1941" was a catastrophe for going over budget. 536 00:21:37,672 --> 00:21:39,841 "Temple of Doom" was shot on schedule 537 00:21:39,841 --> 00:21:43,261 and on its $28 million price tag. 538 00:21:43,261 --> 00:21:47,723 There was great anticipation for the second Indy movie. 539 00:21:47,849 --> 00:21:49,725 Great anticipation. 540 00:21:49,851 --> 00:21:51,352 Following the success 541 00:21:51,352 --> 00:21:53,729 of George Lucas's last trilogy, 542 00:21:54,647 --> 00:21:56,441 the global box office 543 00:21:56,566 --> 00:21:58,693 had become a greater priority for studios. 544 00:21:58,693 --> 00:22:01,446 Japan, very important market. 545 00:22:01,446 --> 00:22:05,408 Huge market for "Star Wars," 546 00:22:05,408 --> 00:22:09,412 but not such a great market for "Raiders of the Lost Ark." 547 00:22:09,412 --> 00:22:11,289 It turned out Paramount 548 00:22:11,289 --> 00:22:15,293 really needed to tip their hat to Japanese moviegoers. 549 00:22:15,418 --> 00:22:18,671 We learned from our folks in Japan 550 00:22:18,796 --> 00:22:21,966 that part of the reason is the moviegoers, 551 00:22:22,091 --> 00:22:23,926 - believe it or not... - Here. 552 00:22:23,926 --> 00:22:26,012 Didn't want to see a guy wearing a hat. 553 00:22:27,597 --> 00:22:30,600 So for "Temple of Doom," 554 00:22:30,725 --> 00:22:32,018 we took his hat off. 555 00:22:32,810 --> 00:22:34,937 But before going into release, 556 00:22:34,937 --> 00:22:37,356 Paramount discovered they had problems 557 00:22:37,356 --> 00:22:40,443 simple marketing tricks alone couldn't fix. 558 00:22:40,443 --> 00:22:43,321 Gloria and I, we got a call from the head of the studio 559 00:22:43,446 --> 00:22:45,656 and he says, "You've gotta talk to George and Steve. 560 00:22:45,656 --> 00:22:48,451 I can't talk to them, they won't talk to me." 561 00:22:48,576 --> 00:22:50,411 The studio wanted Willard 562 00:22:50,411 --> 00:22:54,791 to convince Spielberg and Lucas to lighten up, seriously. 563 00:22:54,791 --> 00:22:57,710 Michael Eisner, he says, "This movie's very dark." 564 00:22:57,710 --> 00:23:00,963 And we said, "Yes, it was supposed to be." 565 00:23:00,963 --> 00:23:03,299 This wasn't just a matter of degrees 566 00:23:03,424 --> 00:23:04,842 for the studio. 567 00:23:04,967 --> 00:23:06,928 He said, "They've been doing some sneak previews, 568 00:23:06,928 --> 00:23:08,846 and I've got exhibitors are calling saying, 569 00:23:08,971 --> 00:23:10,932 'Kids are peeing in their seats'." 570 00:23:12,642 --> 00:23:14,352 You know, I passed that along to them. 571 00:23:14,477 --> 00:23:16,312 George and Steven's response? 572 00:23:16,437 --> 00:23:19,649 "We'll fix it in post" without changing a thing. 573 00:23:19,649 --> 00:23:20,775 They didn't particularly care, 574 00:23:20,775 --> 00:23:22,985 but they also said, 575 00:23:23,111 --> 00:23:25,613 "Well John Williams' music will cover it. 576 00:23:25,613 --> 00:23:28,324 It'll be less gruesome when the music's in." 577 00:23:30,034 --> 00:23:32,620 It would have to be truly hypnotizing music 578 00:23:32,620 --> 00:23:34,789 to temper the horror of a scene like this. 579 00:23:37,959 --> 00:23:41,379 Because after all the heartbreak behind the scenes... 580 00:23:41,504 --> 00:23:43,881 Could not have been easy on those two guys. 581 00:23:45,842 --> 00:23:47,969 Even John Williams can only do so much. 582 00:23:48,094 --> 00:23:50,972 {\an8}I think "Temple of Doom" was too down a film. 583 00:23:51,973 --> 00:23:54,350 {\an8}My general feeling was a down. 584 00:23:54,475 --> 00:23:56,936 This was an issue that went beyond taste. 585 00:23:56,936 --> 00:23:59,522 It was the last thing Paramount needed, 586 00:23:59,522 --> 00:24:02,692 just as they hoped to expand the appeal of the franchise. 587 00:24:02,692 --> 00:24:07,029 Indy was such a popular character at that point 588 00:24:07,029 --> 00:24:11,701 that little kids couldn't wait to get into the theater. 589 00:24:11,701 --> 00:24:15,413 And they were faced with a little bit of heaviness. 590 00:24:15,413 --> 00:24:17,165 That heaviness was about to weigh 591 00:24:17,165 --> 00:24:20,126 on the entire U.S. film industry 592 00:24:20,126 --> 00:24:23,087 because Harrison Ford wasn't the only heart throb 593 00:24:23,212 --> 00:24:25,006 in "The Temple of Doom." 594 00:24:25,006 --> 00:24:28,718 The film unwittingly staked out new theatrical ground. 595 00:24:28,718 --> 00:24:29,886 Let me die. 596 00:24:30,011 --> 00:24:31,888 It became a controversy. 597 00:24:34,015 --> 00:24:35,892 It was so cartoonish 598 00:24:35,892 --> 00:24:39,228 that we didn't think anybody would take it that seriously. 599 00:24:39,228 --> 00:24:42,398 You dare not do that. 600 00:24:42,523 --> 00:24:44,108 But it was the censor's job 601 00:24:44,233 --> 00:24:45,735 to take it seriously. 602 00:24:45,735 --> 00:24:47,695 And "The Temple of Doom" was so dark, 603 00:24:47,695 --> 00:24:49,697 they were lost in the dark 604 00:24:49,697 --> 00:24:52,617 when it came to what certification to put on the film. 605 00:24:52,617 --> 00:24:56,746 And after Spielberg went directly to the MPAA, 606 00:24:56,746 --> 00:24:59,957 the film classification and rating administration 607 00:25:00,083 --> 00:25:03,920 invented a brand new rating, the PG-13. 608 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,798 It's the first movie ever with a PG-13. 609 00:25:06,798 --> 00:25:10,259 And the idea of parental guidance was born. 610 00:25:10,259 --> 00:25:14,472 It was all thanks to Willard and Gloria's dark imagination. 611 00:25:14,597 --> 00:25:15,932 It's funny, when you're writing it, 612 00:25:15,932 --> 00:25:18,101 it's amusing to be darker and darker. 613 00:25:20,102 --> 00:25:21,646 When you see it, you go, 614 00:25:21,771 --> 00:25:23,606 "Oh my God, it's really dark." 615 00:25:23,606 --> 00:25:25,274 Fans waited in line all night 616 00:25:25,274 --> 00:25:26,818 to be the first to see 617 00:25:26,943 --> 00:25:28,569 "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom." 618 00:25:28,569 --> 00:25:30,655 The first reaction to the film was not good. 619 00:25:30,780 --> 00:25:31,823 It wasn't like "Raiders." 620 00:25:31,823 --> 00:25:32,907 It wasn't as good. 621 00:25:33,408 --> 00:25:35,493 Despite the blood and the gore... 622 00:25:35,618 --> 00:25:36,661 It wasn't that violent. 623 00:25:36,786 --> 00:25:37,995 It's all in fun, I think. 624 00:25:37,995 --> 00:25:39,622 Or maybe because of it. 625 00:25:39,622 --> 00:25:40,790 I was really an exciting experience. 626 00:25:40,915 --> 00:25:42,166 And I plan on seeing it again. 627 00:25:42,166 --> 00:25:44,127 The eyeballs in the soup 628 00:25:44,252 --> 00:25:46,504 didn't prevent eyeballs on the movie. 629 00:25:46,504 --> 00:25:48,005 I've already seen it twice. 630 00:25:48,131 --> 00:25:50,091 And this time, Japanese audiences 631 00:25:50,091 --> 00:25:52,969 seemed to have gotten over the fedora phobia. 632 00:25:52,969 --> 00:25:56,973 In Japan, the movie did much, much, much better. 633 00:25:58,808 --> 00:26:00,101 "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom" 634 00:26:00,101 --> 00:26:03,187 grossed $179 million domestically 635 00:26:03,312 --> 00:26:05,648 on a budget of nearly 28 million. 636 00:26:05,648 --> 00:26:08,276 Yes, we made a lot of money off of it. 637 00:26:08,276 --> 00:26:10,194 But the sequel fell short 638 00:26:10,319 --> 00:26:12,697 of the original film's box office, 639 00:26:12,697 --> 00:26:15,950 not a trend the studio wanted to see continue. 640 00:26:15,950 --> 00:26:17,118 One to go to complete the trilogy. 641 00:26:17,118 --> 00:26:18,661 Two down, one to go. 642 00:26:18,786 --> 00:26:20,621 Of course, that was plan A. 643 00:26:20,621 --> 00:26:23,833 But having taken Harrison Ford to the edge of darkness, 644 00:26:23,958 --> 00:26:27,795 producers were acutely aware of the old Hollywood maxim-- 645 00:26:27,795 --> 00:26:30,089 You're only as good as your last picture. 646 00:26:36,179 --> 00:26:39,891 proved to be doomed, with Jonthe critics at least... om" 647 00:26:40,016 --> 00:26:41,767 Boo. 648 00:26:41,893 --> 00:26:44,061 Harrison Ford blazed on bearing witness... 649 00:26:44,061 --> 00:26:45,688 It's over, enough! 650 00:26:45,813 --> 00:26:47,648 To a series of films 651 00:26:47,648 --> 00:26:50,568 that were a long way from action adventure in a fedora. 652 00:26:50,693 --> 00:26:53,571 But there was no question he was now a leading man. 653 00:26:53,571 --> 00:26:56,949 Melanie Griffith certainly thought so in "Working Girl." 654 00:26:56,949 --> 00:26:59,869 I wanted an ace on this, the best. 655 00:27:01,037 --> 00:27:02,955 Mm-hmm. 656 00:27:02,955 --> 00:27:04,874 But a script for the next "Indiana Jones" movie 657 00:27:04,874 --> 00:27:07,710 was being shaped by writer Christopher Columbus. 658 00:27:07,710 --> 00:27:11,255 Steven, he wasn't that into the "Monkey King." 659 00:27:11,255 --> 00:27:12,965 The "Monkey King" 660 00:27:12,965 --> 00:27:15,551 was the working title of "Indiana Three." 661 00:27:15,676 --> 00:27:18,221 Menno was invited to pick up the project. 662 00:27:18,346 --> 00:27:20,723 I had been working with Steve 663 00:27:20,723 --> 00:27:22,683 {\an8}and I did "The Color Purple" with him. 664 00:27:22,683 --> 00:27:25,478 Menno had an idea for a new adventure 665 00:27:25,478 --> 00:27:27,730 that recalled "Raiders of the Lost Ark." 666 00:27:27,730 --> 00:27:29,065 The Ark of the Covenant. 667 00:27:29,190 --> 00:27:30,775 Are you sure? Pretty sure. 668 00:27:30,775 --> 00:27:32,902 Kind of like the Christian version. 669 00:27:32,902 --> 00:27:34,654 I had the idea of the Grail 670 00:27:34,654 --> 00:27:37,240 because it was a kind of sideways move. 671 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,699 The Grail, you ask? 672 00:27:38,699 --> 00:27:40,868 The Holy Grail, Dr. Jones. 673 00:27:42,745 --> 00:27:45,581 The chalice used by Christ during the Last Supper. 674 00:27:45,706 --> 00:27:47,083 Yep. 675 00:27:47,208 --> 00:27:48,126 Who wouldn't want to drink from that cup? 676 00:27:48,251 --> 00:27:49,627 George has a big library 677 00:27:49,752 --> 00:27:51,254 and he's a very knowledgeable guy. 678 00:27:51,254 --> 00:27:54,841 And he also knew the Nazis got really overexcited 679 00:27:54,841 --> 00:27:57,260 about the Grail and the Spear of Destiny 680 00:27:57,260 --> 00:27:59,637 and all of this mad stuff, you know? 681 00:27:59,762 --> 00:28:02,974 So the evil relic-hunting Nazis were back. 682 00:28:02,974 --> 00:28:05,059 But what would be Indy's motivation 683 00:28:05,184 --> 00:28:06,936 to go after the same prize? 684 00:28:06,936 --> 00:28:08,688 I didn't come for the cup of Christ. 685 00:28:08,688 --> 00:28:10,690 I came to find my father. 686 00:28:10,690 --> 00:28:12,942 It's the first time we see Indiana Jones 687 00:28:12,942 --> 00:28:15,111 in a real emotional relationship. 688 00:28:15,111 --> 00:28:16,821 It is you, Junior! 689 00:28:16,946 --> 00:28:18,156 {\an8}This is absolutely the heart of the film. 690 00:28:18,156 --> 00:28:19,949 {\an8}It's a father and son film. 691 00:28:19,949 --> 00:28:22,744 You have chosen wisely. 692 00:28:22,744 --> 00:28:24,579 Speaking of wise choices, 693 00:28:24,579 --> 00:28:27,165 finding the right man to play Indie's dad? 694 00:28:27,290 --> 00:28:30,042 Well, that seemed almost preordained. 695 00:28:30,168 --> 00:28:32,879 We immediately said, "Oh well, that's Sean Connery!" 696 00:28:32,879 --> 00:28:35,590 There was near total consensus. 697 00:28:35,590 --> 00:28:37,717 {\an8}As much as everybody just looks at him as... 698 00:28:37,717 --> 00:28:38,801 Bond. 699 00:28:40,303 --> 00:28:41,929 James Bond. 700 00:28:41,929 --> 00:28:43,723 He's done a lot of brilliant work 701 00:28:43,723 --> 00:28:45,933 in other movies, playing other characters. 702 00:28:45,933 --> 00:28:47,310 Yeah, try and get him on the phone. 703 00:28:47,435 --> 00:28:48,978 Forget it. 704 00:28:49,103 --> 00:28:50,938 Because since retiring as 007, 705 00:28:50,938 --> 00:28:54,317 Sean had become one of the busiest stars in Hollywood, 706 00:28:54,317 --> 00:28:57,278 from a police officer with his own fatherly advice. 707 00:28:57,278 --> 00:28:59,655 He pulls a knife, you pull a gun. 708 00:28:59,781 --> 00:29:01,157 He sends one of yours to the hospital, 709 00:29:01,157 --> 00:29:02,742 you send him one of his to the morgue. 710 00:29:02,742 --> 00:29:04,744 To well, less renowned work. 711 00:29:07,205 --> 00:29:10,124 When someone finally did get Sean on the horn-- 712 00:29:10,124 --> 00:29:11,834 Then it was just like Sean Connery, 713 00:29:11,834 --> 00:29:12,960 "Yeah, yeah, yeah. 714 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,837 Okay, done, yeah, he's in." 715 00:29:14,837 --> 00:29:18,716 You gotta admit that Steven does amazing casting. 716 00:29:18,841 --> 00:29:20,635 It was perfect. 717 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,054 Connery signed on with great expectations. 718 00:29:23,179 --> 00:29:26,307 With Sean Connery, you know that there's gonna be a great 719 00:29:26,307 --> 00:29:28,392 back and forth and great repartee. 720 00:29:28,518 --> 00:29:29,811 - Dad. - What? 721 00:29:29,811 --> 00:29:31,187 - Dad! - What? 722 00:29:31,312 --> 00:29:32,897 This being a family affair... 723 00:29:33,147 --> 00:29:35,066 ...the third "Indiana Jones" picture 724 00:29:35,066 --> 00:29:36,359 would also need someone to play a... 725 00:29:37,193 --> 00:29:38,236 Junior! 726 00:29:38,236 --> 00:29:40,196 How am I doing, boy? 727 00:29:40,196 --> 00:29:42,031 And Harrison Ford had already met just the kid. 728 00:29:42,156 --> 00:29:44,283 In fact, he'd already played dad 729 00:29:44,283 --> 00:29:47,912 to the rising star River Phoenix in "The Mosquito Coast." 730 00:29:48,037 --> 00:29:49,831 I thought it was brilliant casting. 731 00:29:49,831 --> 00:29:51,207 I could see it right away. 732 00:29:51,207 --> 00:29:53,251 And obviously Steven did too. 733 00:29:53,251 --> 00:29:57,421 'Cause he was really an amazing kid, number one, 734 00:29:57,547 --> 00:29:58,881 and actor, number two. 735 00:29:58,881 --> 00:30:00,716 It belongs in a museum. 736 00:30:00,716 --> 00:30:02,176 And to play opposite Ford 737 00:30:02,176 --> 00:30:04,345 for Indy's other key relationship, 738 00:30:04,345 --> 00:30:07,014 another page from the book of Bond. 739 00:30:07,014 --> 00:30:09,058 I'm an early riser myself. 740 00:30:09,183 --> 00:30:12,061 I played a bond girl in Roger Moore's... 741 00:30:12,186 --> 00:30:15,064 ♪ A view to a kill ♪ 742 00:30:15,064 --> 00:30:18,693 {\an8}Steven Spielberg and George Lucas interviewed me 743 00:30:18,693 --> 00:30:21,821 {\an8}and asked me if I was frightened of rats. 744 00:30:23,406 --> 00:30:26,033 And I told them that I had no fear 745 00:30:26,033 --> 00:30:28,911 of the four-legged rat, only the two. 746 00:30:28,911 --> 00:30:31,205 And they said that there'd be no two-legged rats 747 00:30:31,205 --> 00:30:33,207 working on the movie. 748 00:30:33,207 --> 00:30:35,877 Except for, of course, the villain in the movie 749 00:30:35,877 --> 00:30:39,839 who almost cast himself after a chat with his neighbor. 750 00:30:39,839 --> 00:30:42,425 I lived right next door to Robert Watts, 751 00:30:42,550 --> 00:30:45,094 the executive producer of "Star Wars." 752 00:30:45,219 --> 00:30:48,306 And one afternoon we were in the garden 753 00:30:48,431 --> 00:30:50,975 talking across the fence like you do when you're neighbors. 754 00:30:50,975 --> 00:30:52,310 I just propped the question of, 755 00:30:52,310 --> 00:30:53,895 "What are you doing at the moment?" 756 00:30:54,562 --> 00:30:57,231 And he said, "I'm making the second "Star Wars" movie. 757 00:30:57,231 --> 00:30:59,025 "Do you want to be in it?" 758 00:30:59,025 --> 00:31:00,818 Wow! 759 00:31:00,943 --> 00:31:02,820 Thanks in part to Lucas's propensity 760 00:31:02,945 --> 00:31:04,822 to cast Brits as baddies. 761 00:31:04,822 --> 00:31:06,324 He felt surprise was wiser. 762 00:31:06,324 --> 00:31:08,451 He's as clumsy as he is stupid. 763 00:31:08,451 --> 00:31:10,077 When it came to "Indiana Jones," 764 00:31:10,077 --> 00:31:12,955 he was the executive producer on that too. 765 00:31:13,081 --> 00:31:17,210 And he got me the interview for the Nazi officer. 766 00:31:18,085 --> 00:31:19,462 And I didn't get it. 767 00:31:19,587 --> 00:31:21,297 This is how we say goodbye in Germany. 768 00:31:22,965 --> 00:31:24,425 You win some, you lose some. 769 00:31:24,425 --> 00:31:26,260 Well my agent rang and said, 770 00:31:26,260 --> 00:31:28,387 "Sorry you didn't get that, Julian." 771 00:31:28,387 --> 00:31:30,098 And then you win some. 772 00:31:30,098 --> 00:31:32,183 "Do you want to play Walter Donovan?" 773 00:31:32,308 --> 00:31:35,394 I said, "Well, you mean the baddy?" 774 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,980 He said, "Yes, they want you for that." 775 00:31:38,106 --> 00:31:39,148 That's how I got it. 776 00:31:40,274 --> 00:31:42,151 To play the role of Kazim, 777 00:31:42,276 --> 00:31:45,822 Kevork Malikyan was cast by Spielberg, partly on his looks. 778 00:31:45,822 --> 00:31:48,199 {\an8}He said, you know, "Can I ask you, Kevorkian, 779 00:31:48,324 --> 00:31:50,034 has anyone told you before 780 00:31:50,159 --> 00:31:52,537 that your face is a combination of Robert De Niro, 781 00:31:52,537 --> 00:31:54,997 Al Pacino, and Dustin Hoffman?" 782 00:31:55,581 --> 00:31:57,166 I really-- 783 00:31:57,166 --> 00:31:59,502 I absolutely didn't know what to say. 784 00:31:59,627 --> 00:32:01,879 But Kevork didn't have to say anything. 785 00:32:02,004 --> 00:32:03,881 In that case, God be with you in your quest. 786 00:32:03,881 --> 00:32:05,383 With the cast locked in, 787 00:32:05,508 --> 00:32:08,010 the only unknown was whether Harrison Ford 788 00:32:08,136 --> 00:32:10,847 would find himself operating in the shadow 789 00:32:10,847 --> 00:32:12,348 of his legendary costar. 790 00:32:12,473 --> 00:32:14,392 I came here to save you! 791 00:32:14,517 --> 00:32:15,893 Oh yeah? 792 00:32:16,018 --> 00:32:17,186 And who's gonna come to save you? 793 00:32:17,311 --> 00:32:18,396 Oh my goodness. 794 00:32:18,521 --> 00:32:21,858 I was shocked. 795 00:32:22,984 --> 00:32:24,861 When shooting on 796 00:32:24,861 --> 00:32:27,905 "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade" began in May of 1988... 797 00:32:28,030 --> 00:32:29,907 How dare you kiss me? 798 00:32:29,907 --> 00:32:32,326 The onscreen chemistry was electric. 799 00:32:32,326 --> 00:32:33,911 - They'll kill us! - I know, Dad! 800 00:32:33,911 --> 00:32:35,538 Between the two male leads, that is. 801 00:32:35,538 --> 00:32:38,833 {\an8}And I used to say it to Sean, "You've got my part 802 00:32:38,833 --> 00:32:43,045 because you're having so many scenes with Harrison." 803 00:32:43,045 --> 00:32:45,339 I think the reason that this movie worked as well 804 00:32:45,465 --> 00:32:47,884 was because of their relationship on screen 805 00:32:48,009 --> 00:32:49,343 and their chemistry. 806 00:32:49,343 --> 00:32:51,220 What do you wanna talk about? 807 00:32:51,345 --> 00:32:53,347 It's interesting to see him with Sean though, 808 00:32:53,347 --> 00:32:55,975 because Sean's quite serious. 809 00:32:55,975 --> 00:32:58,519 {\an8}When Sean's on the set, everybody lifts their game. 810 00:32:58,519 --> 00:33:00,313 This is a new experience for me. 811 00:33:00,897 --> 00:33:03,399 I think this was the first time they met. 812 00:33:03,524 --> 00:33:05,902 {\an8}And the camaraderie between the two of them, incredible. 813 00:33:05,902 --> 00:33:08,946 {\an8}It's just like they had been father and son for years. 814 00:33:08,946 --> 00:33:10,948 Five minutes would've been enough. 815 00:33:11,073 --> 00:33:12,408 Known for his ad-libs... 816 00:33:12,408 --> 00:33:13,493 I love you. 817 00:33:14,243 --> 00:33:15,244 I know. 818 00:33:15,244 --> 00:33:16,412 That was one. 819 00:33:16,412 --> 00:33:19,123 Harrison had met his match. 820 00:33:19,999 --> 00:33:21,584 {\an8}Junior? 821 00:33:21,584 --> 00:33:24,337 {\an8}The scene when I am discovered to be Mr. Baddy. 822 00:33:24,462 --> 00:33:28,132 Didn't I warn you not to trust anybody, Dr. Jones? 823 00:33:28,132 --> 00:33:29,467 And Harrison said... 824 00:33:29,592 --> 00:33:31,886 How did you know she was a Nazi? 825 00:33:31,886 --> 00:33:34,430 Well, I don't know what was in the original script. 826 00:33:34,430 --> 00:33:35,473 Sean just said... 827 00:33:35,598 --> 00:33:37,308 She talks in her sleep. 828 00:33:39,227 --> 00:33:42,021 And that just broke us all up. 829 00:33:42,021 --> 00:33:46,109 The whole of the set started to erupt in laughter. 830 00:33:46,109 --> 00:33:48,319 He completely invented that line and did it. 831 00:33:48,319 --> 00:33:50,404 And of course Spielberg says that's in. 832 00:33:50,404 --> 00:33:52,990 God, it took us five minutes to recover. 833 00:33:54,492 --> 00:33:56,494 Harrison Ford, now in his element, 834 00:33:56,494 --> 00:33:59,455 even alongside his legendary costar, 835 00:33:59,455 --> 00:34:02,500 allowed the comedy to spill off the screen too. 836 00:34:02,625 --> 00:34:04,544 People really know what they're doing. 837 00:34:04,544 --> 00:34:06,170 Harrison's very private. 838 00:34:06,295 --> 00:34:07,630 He's not a joke teller, 839 00:34:07,755 --> 00:34:10,258 but he's one of those who makes a remark 840 00:34:10,383 --> 00:34:12,969 out of the corner of his mouth. 841 00:34:14,595 --> 00:34:16,264 Very under, and you never know when it's gonna come. 842 00:34:16,389 --> 00:34:18,182 So he was very good company on that level. 843 00:34:18,182 --> 00:34:21,018 And then this is just after the tank explodes, 844 00:34:21,018 --> 00:34:22,603 you make a hard... 845 00:34:22,603 --> 00:34:24,230 But there was no horsing around 846 00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:26,524 for one of the movie's key action scenes, 847 00:34:27,733 --> 00:34:29,986 involving tanks and horses 848 00:34:30,111 --> 00:34:32,488 and the grinding dust of North Africa. 849 00:34:32,613 --> 00:34:34,240 Just another day at the office. 850 00:34:34,365 --> 00:34:36,159 But not just another day at the office 851 00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:37,201 for Julian Glover. 852 00:34:39,036 --> 00:34:40,621 When I read the script for that, 853 00:34:40,747 --> 00:34:43,583 I thought I'm going to achieve my lifetime ambition, 854 00:34:43,583 --> 00:34:47,295 which is to be like General Rommel in World War II 855 00:34:47,295 --> 00:34:50,131 at the top of a tank going... 856 00:34:50,131 --> 00:34:51,591 And I got that wish. 857 00:34:51,716 --> 00:34:53,426 I got to do a Rommel. 858 00:34:53,426 --> 00:34:54,469 Not that Jones! 859 00:34:54,469 --> 00:34:56,179 The other Jones! 860 00:34:56,179 --> 00:34:57,722 Some actors on "The Last Crusade" 861 00:34:57,722 --> 00:35:00,975 found their work to be unexpectedly physical. 862 00:35:00,975 --> 00:35:03,227 Vernon Dobtcheff got to say a line 863 00:35:03,352 --> 00:35:07,148 that would become the most quoted of his 200+ films. 864 00:35:07,273 --> 00:35:09,066 {\an8}If you are a Scottish Lord, 865 00:35:09,192 --> 00:35:11,444 then I am Mickey Mouse! 866 00:35:11,444 --> 00:35:13,070 Steven said to Harrison, 867 00:35:13,070 --> 00:35:14,405 "I want you to punch him at the end of the line." 868 00:35:16,115 --> 00:35:19,035 And I slid down the wall, and that was that. 869 00:35:19,577 --> 00:35:21,204 But in Vernon, 870 00:35:21,329 --> 00:35:23,581 Spielberg had seen something hiding in plain sight, 871 00:35:23,915 --> 00:35:26,250 he felt was perfect for the scene. 872 00:35:26,250 --> 00:35:30,671 There was a case for an Egyptian mummy. 873 00:35:30,671 --> 00:35:34,050 He put me in profile like that. 874 00:35:36,427 --> 00:35:38,513 And that was the gag, you see? 875 00:35:38,513 --> 00:35:41,099 He just wanted the nose. 876 00:35:41,224 --> 00:35:42,517 It seemed like every actor 877 00:35:42,642 --> 00:35:45,394 was making an impression and I was given a chance 878 00:35:45,394 --> 00:35:47,230 to make an even bigger one. 879 00:35:47,230 --> 00:35:49,482 One I wasn't expecting. 880 00:35:49,482 --> 00:35:52,276 Steven said, "Alison, get into the boat 881 00:35:52,276 --> 00:35:55,446 and drive it straight towards the boat 882 00:35:55,571 --> 00:35:57,281 with the camera on it." 883 00:35:57,281 --> 00:36:00,368 I hear "action" and I'm zooming. 884 00:36:00,368 --> 00:36:03,287 And they're saying, "Now, before you get too close, 885 00:36:03,412 --> 00:36:04,997 veer off to the right." 886 00:36:05,123 --> 00:36:06,207 Are you crazy? 887 00:36:06,207 --> 00:36:07,500 You don't go between 'em! 888 00:36:07,625 --> 00:36:09,377 Go between them? Are you crazy? 889 00:36:09,377 --> 00:36:12,088 This was the worst possible time 890 00:36:12,088 --> 00:36:13,131 to get starstruck. 891 00:36:13,131 --> 00:36:15,258 I started to get hypnotized 892 00:36:15,258 --> 00:36:17,301 seeing all of these famous faces. 893 00:36:17,301 --> 00:36:18,594 "Oh, there's Steven. 894 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:19,804 Oh, there's George." 895 00:36:19,929 --> 00:36:21,430 I could see their faces. 896 00:36:21,556 --> 00:36:23,808 They were going... 897 00:36:26,394 --> 00:36:27,395 That way. 898 00:36:27,395 --> 00:36:28,729 I said, "Go around!" 899 00:36:28,729 --> 00:36:30,398 I went, "Oh." 900 00:36:30,398 --> 00:36:32,650 And I just turned the boat very quickly. 901 00:36:34,068 --> 00:36:35,445 It was harrowing for them, 902 00:36:35,570 --> 00:36:37,613 but in the end it was a good scene. 903 00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:41,492 We went to the back of the studio, 904 00:36:41,492 --> 00:36:44,996 huge pool, which was supposed to be the river. 905 00:36:44,996 --> 00:36:48,082 They used stunts for me, not for Harrison Ford. 906 00:36:48,082 --> 00:36:49,625 He did all his stunts himself. 907 00:36:52,753 --> 00:36:54,338 In the same scene, 908 00:36:54,464 --> 00:36:56,591 Harrison was looking out for his co-stars. 909 00:36:56,716 --> 00:36:58,509 It was a horribly cold day. 910 00:36:58,634 --> 00:37:02,180 And somebody brought in a coffee with brandy in it. 911 00:37:02,180 --> 00:37:04,223 He said, "Excuse me, where's Kevork? 912 00:37:04,223 --> 00:37:05,808 Where's Kevork's drink?" 913 00:37:05,808 --> 00:37:07,810 So they brought me a brandy. 914 00:37:08,811 --> 00:37:11,272 So, Dr. Jones, it's yours. 915 00:37:11,272 --> 00:37:12,607 Kevork got his coffee, 916 00:37:12,607 --> 00:37:14,317 but he wasn't getting any extra 917 00:37:14,317 --> 00:37:16,194 when it came to what he was there for. 918 00:37:16,194 --> 00:37:17,695 George Lucas came to me and he said, 919 00:37:17,820 --> 00:37:19,781 "You know, Kevork, in the original story, 920 00:37:19,781 --> 00:37:22,325 your character was going to Petra, 921 00:37:22,450 --> 00:37:25,286 but we decided to kill you from, 922 00:37:25,286 --> 00:37:27,622 to kill your character. 923 00:37:27,622 --> 00:37:29,457 So you will not be coming to Petra." 924 00:37:29,457 --> 00:37:31,125 For the unrighteous. 925 00:37:31,125 --> 00:37:33,211 If I hadn't been killed by the Germans, 926 00:37:33,336 --> 00:37:34,712 I would've appeared till the end of the film, 927 00:37:34,837 --> 00:37:36,672 I suppose, in the original story. 928 00:37:38,341 --> 00:37:40,593 Julian Glover's character's demise... 929 00:37:40,718 --> 00:37:42,220 It's very interesting, that death scene. 930 00:37:42,220 --> 00:37:44,347 Required more finesse. 931 00:37:44,472 --> 00:37:47,475 We spent a very long time beforehand. 932 00:37:47,475 --> 00:37:50,728 And a little bit of ILM genius behind it 933 00:37:50,728 --> 00:37:53,397 as practical as it was inspired. 934 00:37:53,397 --> 00:37:56,401 They made a death mask of me out of Plaster of Paris. 935 00:37:56,401 --> 00:37:59,403 I had wires going down my back, up my front. 936 00:37:59,403 --> 00:38:01,364 A very elaborate two day shoot. 937 00:38:01,364 --> 00:38:03,449 What is happening to me? 938 00:38:03,449 --> 00:38:06,536 Right near the beginning, my hair grows! 939 00:38:07,370 --> 00:38:09,455 And that of course was such simple device, 940 00:38:09,455 --> 00:38:11,207 which Steven invented. 941 00:38:11,332 --> 00:38:12,708 There was a man in front of me 942 00:38:12,708 --> 00:38:15,545 and he held onto the front of the hair 943 00:38:15,545 --> 00:38:18,423 and pulled it like that, and it went shoop, like that. 944 00:38:18,423 --> 00:38:19,715 And they shot it in reverse. 945 00:38:21,801 --> 00:38:24,512 I had to scream backwards 946 00:38:24,512 --> 00:38:26,764 from my maximum scream of fear 947 00:38:26,764 --> 00:38:29,600 down to my just starting to scream. 948 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,354 It's the most difficult scene for me in the whole movie. 949 00:38:34,731 --> 00:38:36,649 I thankfully did it well 950 00:38:36,774 --> 00:38:39,277 and well enough for Harrison to come over to me 951 00:38:39,402 --> 00:38:41,279 and say, "Are you okay?" 952 00:38:41,279 --> 00:38:43,740 I went, "Yes, I'm acting." 953 00:38:43,865 --> 00:38:44,866 We have got it. 954 00:38:44,991 --> 00:38:46,701 Come on! 955 00:38:46,701 --> 00:38:49,370 But sadly, not acting for as long as I had hoped. 956 00:38:49,495 --> 00:38:51,622 I was really annoyed reading in the script 957 00:38:51,747 --> 00:38:53,666 that my character was going to die 958 00:38:53,666 --> 00:38:56,711 because I wanted to come back in the next "Indiana Jones." 959 00:38:56,711 --> 00:38:58,254 Honey, I can't hold you! 960 00:38:58,379 --> 00:38:59,338 I can reach it. 961 00:38:59,464 --> 00:39:00,756 Steven goes, "Action." 962 00:39:00,756 --> 00:39:02,925 I fall, I scream. 963 00:39:03,050 --> 00:39:05,887 I hear Steven saying, "And cut." 964 00:39:05,887 --> 00:39:07,472 I went, "It's okay. 965 00:39:07,472 --> 00:39:09,307 I'm alive. 966 00:39:09,432 --> 00:39:11,476 I had a soft landing just come down and get me." 967 00:39:11,476 --> 00:39:13,436 And Steven kept saying, "You're dead." 968 00:39:14,729 --> 00:39:16,439 "You're dead." 969 00:39:16,439 --> 00:39:18,441 I said, "No, no, no, no. 970 00:39:18,441 --> 00:39:21,944 Could you not just leave her with one finger moving 971 00:39:21,944 --> 00:39:23,780 with the possibility--?" 972 00:39:23,905 --> 00:39:25,823 And he said, "No, you're dead." 973 00:39:25,823 --> 00:39:27,617 Let it go. 974 00:39:27,742 --> 00:39:29,410 But with production nearly wrapped, 975 00:39:29,410 --> 00:39:32,789 the toughest tests were still waiting in the wings. 976 00:39:32,914 --> 00:39:33,956 What does that mean? 977 00:39:34,081 --> 00:39:35,500 There was no CG. 978 00:39:35,500 --> 00:39:37,293 We didn't have computers. 979 00:39:40,588 --> 00:39:41,839 The biggest challenge 980 00:39:41,839 --> 00:39:43,758 finishing "The Last Crusade..." 981 00:39:43,758 --> 00:39:45,426 Why are you sitting there resting 982 00:39:45,426 --> 00:39:47,345 when we're so near the end? 983 00:39:47,345 --> 00:39:48,596 ...was taking the massive 984 00:39:49,764 --> 00:39:51,516 and making it small... 985 00:39:51,516 --> 00:39:53,518 So it was a blimp miniature. 986 00:39:53,518 --> 00:39:55,353 ...in order to make it big. 987 00:39:55,353 --> 00:39:58,731 {\an8}And a miniature biplane when it detaches 988 00:39:58,731 --> 00:40:02,985 and then flies off, was a white blimp on a blue sky, 989 00:40:02,985 --> 00:40:05,655 which is the enemy of visual effects. 990 00:40:06,948 --> 00:40:08,491 That was the challenge. 991 00:40:08,616 --> 00:40:10,201 And none of this was helped 992 00:40:10,326 --> 00:40:12,912 by the reality of filmmaking 40 years ago. 993 00:40:12,912 --> 00:40:16,332 The entire film was made with models and miniatures 994 00:40:16,457 --> 00:40:17,834 and real explosions. 995 00:40:17,834 --> 00:40:19,335 And there was no CG. 996 00:40:19,335 --> 00:40:20,837 But we didn't have computers. 997 00:40:20,837 --> 00:40:22,839 You know, we didn't have CG. 998 00:40:22,839 --> 00:40:24,382 Which made shooting 999 00:40:24,382 --> 00:40:26,467 as much action as possible crucial, 1000 00:40:26,467 --> 00:40:29,220 even if some of it we would never get to see. 1001 00:40:29,345 --> 00:40:31,430 Do you know about the Zeppelin business? 1002 00:40:31,556 --> 00:40:33,558 Such as a spectacular dogfight 1003 00:40:33,558 --> 00:40:35,852 that originally featured a bigger dog. 1004 00:40:35,852 --> 00:40:40,231 {\an8}What they had originally was a German officer, 1005 00:40:40,231 --> 00:40:42,316 which Indiana Jones took on. 1006 00:40:42,442 --> 00:40:45,528 And they shot the whole sequence and then they cut it. 1007 00:40:45,528 --> 00:40:46,904 But that's what happens with movies, isn't it? 1008 00:40:46,904 --> 00:40:49,449 Hang on, Dad, we're going in. 1009 00:40:49,449 --> 00:40:51,159 Believing the dogfight 1010 00:40:51,284 --> 00:40:53,411 dragged down the story's momentum, 1011 00:40:53,411 --> 00:40:56,664 Spielberg clipped the scene's wings. 1012 00:40:56,664 --> 00:40:59,667 Spielberg discovered he had come up short, 1013 00:40:59,667 --> 00:41:02,253 but only after location shooting wrapped. 1014 00:41:03,671 --> 00:41:05,256 We shot that motorcycle chase scene 1015 00:41:05,256 --> 00:41:07,425 in San Anselmo. Post-production. 1016 00:41:07,425 --> 00:41:08,760 It was a U.S. unit. 1017 00:41:10,511 --> 00:41:12,972 Brilliant sequence, brilliant sequence. 1018 00:41:12,972 --> 00:41:16,684 Certain directors a studio demands a screening or two 1019 00:41:16,684 --> 00:41:19,604 or three or four and then gives their notes. 1020 00:41:19,604 --> 00:41:21,689 But Steven and George were at the level of, 1021 00:41:21,814 --> 00:41:23,858 "Here's my movie, I hope you like it." 1022 00:41:23,858 --> 00:41:25,777 "Indiana Jones." 1023 00:41:25,902 --> 00:41:29,697 "The Last Crusade" hit theaters in May of 1989. 1024 00:41:29,697 --> 00:41:31,324 - Nice landing. - Thanks. 1025 00:41:31,449 --> 00:41:33,367 It landed at an unusual time 1026 00:41:33,367 --> 00:41:36,454 with its spring release, but was universally embraced. 1027 00:41:36,454 --> 00:41:38,539 I was absolutely happy with what I'd done 1028 00:41:38,539 --> 00:41:39,999 'cause I knew that's what Steven wanted. 1029 00:41:39,999 --> 00:41:42,627 It's more beautiful than I'd ever imagined. 1030 00:41:42,752 --> 00:41:44,629 It just has everything. 1031 00:41:44,629 --> 00:41:46,714 Looks like the best parts have already been spoken for. 1032 00:41:46,839 --> 00:41:49,801 {\an8}It's got the amazing action and adventure. 1033 00:41:50,843 --> 00:41:52,345 The film had risen to the top 1034 00:41:52,345 --> 00:41:54,472 with fans and cast alike. 1035 00:41:54,472 --> 00:41:55,973 It's like being with a friend 1036 00:41:55,973 --> 00:41:57,767 and joining him on a journey. 1037 00:41:57,892 --> 00:41:59,477 Sharing your adventures. 1038 00:41:59,477 --> 00:42:00,937 "The Last Crusade" 1039 00:42:00,937 --> 00:42:04,690 netted almost 475 million worldwide 1040 00:42:04,690 --> 00:42:07,401 from the budget of just 48 million, 1041 00:42:07,401 --> 00:42:11,364 becoming the highest grossing film of the original trilogy. 1042 00:42:11,364 --> 00:42:12,532 And I'm pleased that other people like it. 1043 00:42:12,657 --> 00:42:14,450 I'm pleased it's been successful. 1044 00:42:14,450 --> 00:42:15,868 And its reception 1045 00:42:15,868 --> 00:42:17,703 couldn't have been further from the shadow 1046 00:42:17,703 --> 00:42:19,539 cast by "Temple of Doom." 1047 00:42:19,539 --> 00:42:22,708 Sweetheart, after all the fun we've had together. 1048 00:42:23,292 --> 00:42:26,337 The franchise that began in old Hollywood 1049 00:42:28,089 --> 00:42:30,842 had embedded a new star in the firmament. 1050 00:42:30,842 --> 00:42:32,760 I think Steven was very lucky 1051 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,596 to have Harrison all the way through. 1052 00:42:35,596 --> 00:42:37,598 I thought I'd lost you, boy. 1053 00:42:37,598 --> 00:42:40,685 You know, having looked at him closely in that period, 1054 00:42:40,685 --> 00:42:44,355 he has a relaxed "don't give a fuck" quality about him. 1055 00:42:44,355 --> 00:42:45,523 There's something about that 1056 00:42:45,523 --> 00:42:47,358 that is extremely appealing. 1057 00:42:47,483 --> 00:42:48,526 I owe you a gin. 1058 00:42:48,526 --> 00:42:49,944 Let's not forget 1059 00:42:49,944 --> 00:42:51,612 the people Harrison brought up with him. 1060 00:42:52,029 --> 00:42:54,073 Indy, my friend. 1061 00:42:54,198 --> 00:42:57,952 {\an8}Ke Huy Quan, to see him now all these years later, 1062 00:42:58,077 --> 00:43:00,371 and then to get the Oscar. 1063 00:43:00,371 --> 00:43:03,583 And the Oscar goes to Ke Huy Quan. 1064 00:43:05,585 --> 00:43:07,378 That thrills me so much. 1065 00:43:07,503 --> 00:43:09,088 He had become a man of action, 1066 00:43:09,088 --> 00:43:10,798 but to grow as an actor, 1067 00:43:10,798 --> 00:43:13,634 he needed to add another feather to his fedora. 1068 00:43:13,634 --> 00:43:18,014 Harrison's combination of action star and thinking man 1069 00:43:18,014 --> 00:43:20,016 made him a perfect Jack Ryan. 1070 00:43:20,141 --> 00:43:21,851 The former carpenter 1071 00:43:21,976 --> 00:43:24,145 who just a few years earlier didn't know Jack... 1072 00:43:24,145 --> 00:43:26,397 I didn't even know how long it took to bake a potato. 1073 00:43:26,522 --> 00:43:28,608 Was about to show the world 1074 00:43:28,608 --> 00:43:30,902 he could be a jack of all trades. 1075 00:43:31,027 --> 00:43:33,488 How dare you come in here and lecture me? 1076 00:43:33,613 --> 00:43:34,739 How dare you, sir? 80425

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