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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:28,111 --> 00:00:30,113 ["Crime Of The Century" by Supertramp playing] 2 00:00:30,197 --> 00:00:35,160 ♪ Now they're planning The crime of the century ♪ 3 00:00:36,286 --> 00:00:39,665 ♪ Well what will it be? ♪ 4 00:00:45,963 --> 00:00:50,592 ♪ Read all about their schemes And adventuring ♪ 5 00:00:52,135 --> 00:00:55,806 ♪ It's well worth the fee ♪ 6 00:01:01,061 --> 00:01:02,813 We are living in a glorious time, 7 00:01:02,896 --> 00:01:04,690 a time of great conflict to be sure. 8 00:01:04,940 --> 00:01:07,067 [male newsreader 1] Today, a nationwide crackdown was underway... 9 00:01:07,150 --> 00:01:09,653 [male newsreader 2] ...eight men were arrested from... 10 00:01:09,736 --> 00:01:12,072 [male newsreader 3] ...hardcore pornographic pictures. 11 00:01:13,740 --> 00:01:16,201 [Gerard Damiano] On one side of the coin are those in favor 12 00:01:16,285 --> 00:01:17,911 of absolutely no censorship. 13 00:01:18,620 --> 00:01:20,205 [crowd clamoring] 14 00:01:20,289 --> 00:01:23,125 On the other hand, there are those who advocate 15 00:01:23,208 --> 00:01:26,712 the government dictating to us what we should see, 16 00:01:27,504 --> 00:01:29,006 read, and hear. 17 00:01:29,089 --> 00:01:32,175 [newsreader] ...they say it all started with the sex film Deep Throat. 18 00:01:38,140 --> 00:01:40,892 ["Spill the Wine" by Eric Burdon & WAR playing] 19 00:01:48,275 --> 00:01:50,944 I saw Deep Throat in New York when it first came out. 20 00:01:55,324 --> 00:01:57,242 [Larry Flynt] People were lined up 21 00:01:57,326 --> 00:01:59,620 for at least three blocks. 22 00:02:00,662 --> 00:02:05,292 ♪ I was once out strolling One very hot summer's day ♪ 23 00:02:05,375 --> 00:02:08,920 Oh, yeah, there was a screening in some psychoanalyst's apartment 24 00:02:09,004 --> 00:02:11,506 and everybody watched and smoked dope. Oh, yeah. 25 00:02:11,673 --> 00:02:14,635 ♪ I dreamed I was In a Hollywood movie ♪ 26 00:02:16,094 --> 00:02:18,680 ♪ That I was the star Of the movie ♪ 27 00:02:19,681 --> 00:02:21,600 ♪ This really blew my mind ♪ 28 00:02:21,683 --> 00:02:23,602 [Dr. Westheimer] I thought, "Fantastic. 29 00:02:23,685 --> 00:02:26,104 This is going to change the climate 30 00:02:26,855 --> 00:02:29,983 of talking about issues of sexuality 31 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,444 in these United States." 32 00:02:32,527 --> 00:02:36,365 ♪ Spill the wine And take that pearl ♪ 33 00:02:36,865 --> 00:02:39,993 [Dick Cavett] I'm one of the handful of people who never saw it. 34 00:02:40,577 --> 00:02:42,204 I didn't intend to not see it. 35 00:02:42,287 --> 00:02:43,955 [clattering] 36 00:02:44,039 --> 00:02:46,708 Perhaps you could arrange for me to see it. 37 00:02:47,250 --> 00:02:48,293 Now. 38 00:02:48,460 --> 00:02:49,461 [machine humming] 39 00:02:49,544 --> 00:02:51,296 [projector whirring] 40 00:02:59,596 --> 00:03:02,015 [Camille Paglia] Deep Throat was an epochal moment 41 00:03:02,099 --> 00:03:03,892 in the history of modern sexuality. 42 00:03:03,975 --> 00:03:07,187 It was the first time that respectable middle-class women 43 00:03:07,270 --> 00:03:09,106 went to porn theaters. 44 00:03:11,483 --> 00:03:12,984 It really broke down, 45 00:03:13,068 --> 00:03:15,487 uh, traditional codes of, of decorum. 46 00:03:18,532 --> 00:03:19,950 [Hugh Hefner] Linda Lovelace, 47 00:03:20,033 --> 00:03:22,661 and conversations, and jokes about Deep Throat, 48 00:03:22,744 --> 00:03:24,579 appeared on network television. 49 00:03:24,830 --> 00:03:26,665 If the film became mainstream, 50 00:03:26,748 --> 00:03:29,084 conversation about it became truly mainstream. 51 00:03:29,334 --> 00:03:31,002 It's kind of a strange country, isn't it? 52 00:03:31,086 --> 00:03:33,463 Judges can see Deep Throat, but they can't listen to those tapes. 53 00:03:33,547 --> 00:03:34,840 [audience laughing] 54 00:03:35,841 --> 00:03:37,926 [Hefner] I think the major thing that set, uh, 55 00:03:38,009 --> 00:03:39,553 Deep Throat apart was, 56 00:03:39,636 --> 00:03:40,929 it had a gimmick. 57 00:03:41,012 --> 00:03:42,264 Ah! Ah! 58 00:03:43,682 --> 00:03:46,518 Well, there it is, you little bugger, there it is. 59 00:03:46,601 --> 00:03:47,811 What? 60 00:03:48,061 --> 00:03:51,314 Your clitoris, it's deep down in the bottom of your throat. 61 00:03:51,398 --> 00:03:52,607 [crying] 62 00:03:52,691 --> 00:03:54,609 The clitoris hidden in the throat 63 00:03:54,693 --> 00:03:56,611 was something you could talk about and laugh about. 64 00:03:56,778 --> 00:03:58,864 It's better than having no clitoris at all. 65 00:03:58,947 --> 00:03:59,948 [sobbing] 66 00:04:00,031 --> 00:04:02,159 That's easy for you to say. 67 00:04:03,577 --> 00:04:06,121 Suppose your balls were in your ear. 68 00:04:07,164 --> 00:04:09,708 [Bill Maher] I was 19 when I saw it. 69 00:04:09,791 --> 00:04:12,294 I don't think I had found where the clitoris really was. 70 00:04:12,502 --> 00:04:14,004 So I think the idea 71 00:04:14,087 --> 00:04:15,630 that it was misplaced 72 00:04:15,714 --> 00:04:17,632 on the human body was lost on me. 73 00:04:17,716 --> 00:04:20,427 I, I was looking for the original site. 74 00:04:21,595 --> 00:04:22,929 It was a giggle. 75 00:04:23,013 --> 00:04:25,682 And the worst thing to be said about us, as Americans, 76 00:04:25,766 --> 00:04:27,392 is that we'll sell our souls for a giggle. 77 00:04:27,476 --> 00:04:29,394 Listen, uh, we have the problem solved. 78 00:04:29,478 --> 00:04:31,688 All we have to do now is find the solution. 79 00:04:31,938 --> 00:04:33,523 [sobbing] Like what? 80 00:04:33,607 --> 00:04:34,775 Like deep throat. 81 00:04:37,319 --> 00:04:38,236 Deep what? 82 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:39,237 Throat. 83 00:04:39,321 --> 00:04:41,573 Have you ever taken a penis all the way down 84 00:04:41,656 --> 00:04:42,741 to the bottom of your throat? 85 00:04:52,667 --> 00:04:54,836 It was a badge of the new freedom. 86 00:04:55,086 --> 00:04:56,087 [projector whirring] 87 00:04:56,171 --> 00:04:57,422 Have you been to the experience 88 00:04:57,506 --> 00:04:58,924 of paying to go in a porno theater 89 00:04:59,007 --> 00:05:00,091 [woman moaning] 90 00:05:00,175 --> 00:05:01,593 and see a woman give a blowjob 91 00:05:01,676 --> 00:05:03,762 in a movie theater in your community? 92 00:05:03,845 --> 00:05:04,971 That was very, very new. 93 00:05:06,014 --> 00:05:08,475 Something that's hard for people today to imagine, 94 00:05:08,558 --> 00:05:10,185 how liberating that was. 95 00:05:10,268 --> 00:05:13,063 Or... Or terrible, depending on what you believe in. 96 00:05:15,273 --> 00:05:17,275 It's a floodtide of filth that's engulfed 97 00:05:17,359 --> 00:05:18,860 the minds and hearts and souls 98 00:05:18,944 --> 00:05:20,946 of America like nothing else ever has. 99 00:05:22,155 --> 00:05:25,534 We have smut all over the face of this country now 100 00:05:25,617 --> 00:05:29,412 because we are letting those immoral people 101 00:05:29,496 --> 00:05:32,332 have their way in our country. 102 00:05:36,086 --> 00:05:38,880 Deep Throat succeeded commercially at least in part 103 00:05:38,964 --> 00:05:41,508 because the government went after it. 104 00:05:41,591 --> 00:05:44,386 The government became the driving force 105 00:05:44,469 --> 00:05:46,221 behind the public relations. 106 00:05:49,891 --> 00:05:52,769 I just saw it and I liked it. 107 00:05:52,852 --> 00:05:56,231 I liked it. I wanted to see a dirty picture and that's what I saw. 108 00:05:56,314 --> 00:05:59,401 But I want the right to see that picture. 109 00:05:59,484 --> 00:06:03,029 I don't want somebody telling me that I can't see a dirty picture. 110 00:06:06,116 --> 00:06:09,411 Deep Throat attacks the very core of our being. 111 00:06:41,151 --> 00:06:43,320 [Linda Lovelace] Every time someone watches that movie, 112 00:06:43,403 --> 00:06:45,238 they're watching me being raped. 113 00:06:49,242 --> 00:06:52,495 Do I belong in jail for five years for acting in Deep Throat? 114 00:06:56,291 --> 00:06:59,377 Deep Throat now has had a phenomenal success 115 00:06:59,461 --> 00:07:01,630 going on for two-and-a-half years, 116 00:07:01,713 --> 00:07:03,590 and it's only because it's being hassled. 117 00:07:03,673 --> 00:07:05,759 [female reporter] Do you think it's a good movie? 118 00:07:05,842 --> 00:07:08,470 No, I don't think it's a good movie. 119 00:07:31,660 --> 00:07:33,870 I'm takin' a walk, Mrs. Brown. 120 00:07:35,997 --> 00:07:38,333 I am doing fine, dear, thank you. 121 00:07:44,381 --> 00:07:46,007 [birds chirping] 122 00:07:46,758 --> 00:07:49,761 ["Brand New Key" by Melanie playing] 123 00:07:52,138 --> 00:07:56,267 ♪ I rode my bicycle Past your window last night ♪ 124 00:07:58,061 --> 00:08:02,899 ♪ I roller-skated To your door at daylight ♪ 125 00:08:03,650 --> 00:08:08,321 ♪ It almost seems Like you're avoiding me ♪ 126 00:08:09,030 --> 00:08:10,907 These are some pictures 127 00:08:10,991 --> 00:08:13,159 or posters from some of the films I've done. 128 00:08:14,452 --> 00:08:18,289 ♪ Well, I got a brand new pair Of roller-skates ♪ 129 00:08:18,373 --> 00:08:19,958 ♪ You got a brand new key ♪ 130 00:08:20,041 --> 00:08:21,793 I don't know. They're kind of cute. 131 00:08:21,876 --> 00:08:23,503 ♪ I think that we should Get together ♪ 132 00:08:23,586 --> 00:08:28,216 A picture of Gerard, my son, when he was a lot younger, 133 00:08:28,717 --> 00:08:30,635 and my daughter when she was younger. 134 00:08:32,846 --> 00:08:36,641 [Dennis Hopper] Long before Deep Throat, Damiano was a family man. 135 00:08:36,725 --> 00:08:40,228 He and his wife ran a beauty salon in Queens, New York. 136 00:08:40,770 --> 00:08:43,231 ♪ Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪ 137 00:08:43,314 --> 00:08:45,567 [Damiano] I enjoyed being a hairdresser 138 00:08:45,650 --> 00:08:48,820 because I always could relate to women. 139 00:08:50,155 --> 00:08:52,365 After you got to know the woman, 140 00:08:52,449 --> 00:08:55,368 especially when you worked on them weekly, 141 00:08:55,452 --> 00:08:57,412 you start to get into history 142 00:08:57,495 --> 00:09:00,206 about "we went to the movies" and "he did this and I did..." 143 00:09:00,290 --> 00:09:02,125 And you realize that most-- 144 00:09:02,208 --> 00:09:04,252 Most of the women were very unhappy 145 00:09:04,335 --> 00:09:06,421 in their relationship 146 00:09:06,504 --> 00:09:09,340 with the person that they were married to 147 00:09:09,424 --> 00:09:10,800 and supposedly in love with. 148 00:09:11,718 --> 00:09:14,929 After 40 years of marriage, you know, you can get 149 00:09:16,014 --> 00:09:18,349 tired of the good old in and out. 150 00:09:19,309 --> 00:09:22,020 You, you got to be intimate. It was almost like a priest. 151 00:09:22,103 --> 00:09:24,355 I mean, I don't wanna say I was a priest, 152 00:09:24,439 --> 00:09:26,524 but it was almost like-- It was almost like a confessor. 153 00:09:27,358 --> 00:09:30,403 [Hopper] The confessions Damiano heard in his salon, 154 00:09:30,487 --> 00:09:33,907 made him realize he was on the frontlines of a sexual revolution. 155 00:09:37,577 --> 00:09:39,662 [Hefner] We grew up in a time 156 00:09:39,746 --> 00:09:42,707 in which sex itself was largely taboo. 157 00:09:43,458 --> 00:09:46,878 When I was a kid, young people didn't even know where babies came from. 158 00:09:46,961 --> 00:09:47,962 [Cavett] I'd love to know. 159 00:09:48,046 --> 00:09:50,965 If I watch the rest of this program, will I know the answer? 160 00:09:52,425 --> 00:09:55,178 Gore Vidal would be very good on the subject. 161 00:09:56,054 --> 00:09:59,099 You must take into account how ignorant people are. 162 00:09:59,182 --> 00:10:00,642 Particularly our countrymen 163 00:10:00,725 --> 00:10:02,811 who have never taken a course in biology, 164 00:10:02,894 --> 00:10:04,187 never read a book. 165 00:10:04,813 --> 00:10:07,607 Do you know anything about the facts of life? 166 00:10:07,690 --> 00:10:09,234 Not very much, I'm afraid. 167 00:10:11,111 --> 00:10:13,863 [Hopper] The facts of life and sexual morality in general 168 00:10:13,947 --> 00:10:15,448 were forbidden topics. 169 00:10:15,532 --> 00:10:18,201 But as all that changed, issues about sexuality 170 00:10:18,284 --> 00:10:20,120 began to divide society. 171 00:10:20,286 --> 00:10:23,623 [man] Artificial contraception is wrong. 172 00:10:24,124 --> 00:10:25,250 Evil. 173 00:10:25,416 --> 00:10:27,168 [Norman Mailer] People were experimenting. 174 00:10:27,252 --> 00:10:28,962 They were looking for new kinds of lives. 175 00:10:29,045 --> 00:10:32,382 They were looking to break out of all the old molds. 176 00:10:36,970 --> 00:10:39,264 [Al Goldstein] And we knew the American public were tired 177 00:10:39,347 --> 00:10:40,557 of words like "coitus." 178 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,559 They wanted words like "fuck," 179 00:10:42,642 --> 00:10:44,519 and "suck," and "eat my cunt." 180 00:10:45,645 --> 00:10:48,857 I think the more that filth is thrown at Americans 181 00:10:48,940 --> 00:10:50,650 the less favored it becomes. 182 00:10:52,944 --> 00:10:56,156 They're depicting sex in a very filthy way. 183 00:10:56,489 --> 00:10:58,408 [John Waters] Jackie Kennedy went to see that. 184 00:10:58,491 --> 00:11:00,201 The next week, the gross doubled. 185 00:11:02,203 --> 00:11:05,373 I, I don't mind seeing sex in a, in a movie just for its own sake 186 00:11:05,456 --> 00:11:07,167 because I think that's one of the, you know, 187 00:11:07,250 --> 00:11:09,169 the more interesting human emotions. 188 00:11:09,502 --> 00:11:12,547 [Erica Jong] Sex was in movies. Sex was on TV. 189 00:11:12,922 --> 00:11:15,091 Sex came out of the closet. 190 00:11:20,179 --> 00:11:23,141 [Damiano] You had to be there. You had to be there. 191 00:11:23,224 --> 00:11:25,268 I'm thrilled that I was there. 192 00:11:25,351 --> 00:11:27,312 And thank God I had a camera with me. 193 00:11:27,645 --> 00:11:30,106 [Hopper] As the sexual revolution swept through society, 194 00:11:30,189 --> 00:11:33,276 people took sides in a culture war that was gathering steam. 195 00:11:33,359 --> 00:11:35,820 Gerry Damiano joined the fray by swapping 196 00:11:35,904 --> 00:11:37,864 his blow-dryer for a movie camera. 197 00:11:37,947 --> 00:11:40,825 [Damiano] I loved film. I always did. 198 00:11:40,909 --> 00:11:43,661 The only thing you could make was sex films. 199 00:11:43,912 --> 00:11:46,456 Uh, that was the only thing you were allowed to make 200 00:11:46,539 --> 00:11:48,124 and you made them at a low budget. 201 00:11:48,666 --> 00:11:53,087 Doing hardcore films in those days, the early '70s, 202 00:11:53,588 --> 00:11:56,591 was very much like summer stock. 203 00:11:57,675 --> 00:11:58,927 It was like, 204 00:11:59,052 --> 00:12:01,596 "Daddy has a barn, let's do a show." 205 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:03,181 [giggling] 206 00:12:03,264 --> 00:12:04,349 Oh, my! 207 00:12:04,432 --> 00:12:05,433 Oh! 208 00:12:05,516 --> 00:12:07,143 [crowing] 209 00:12:07,602 --> 00:12:11,397 It, it was the only choice we had. 210 00:12:11,481 --> 00:12:14,233 It took... 24 years old without, 211 00:12:14,943 --> 00:12:18,279 you know, uh, uh... 212 00:12:18,905 --> 00:12:22,033 What do you call it, uh, a track record, you know. 213 00:12:22,325 --> 00:12:24,702 And these things were so inexpensive. 214 00:12:24,911 --> 00:12:27,538 Okay, what I want now is some of your ass, 215 00:12:27,622 --> 00:12:28,748 all right? 216 00:12:29,082 --> 00:12:30,792 [Ron Wertheim] I meant business. 217 00:12:30,875 --> 00:12:33,169 I approached those films as if... 218 00:12:34,545 --> 00:12:37,882 I was Luc Godard or somebody, you know. 219 00:12:38,174 --> 00:12:39,676 And just wiggle it towards us. 220 00:12:39,759 --> 00:12:42,387 I want to fill up 40 feet of screen with your ass. 221 00:12:45,848 --> 00:12:47,934 You're always after my ass. 222 00:12:48,601 --> 00:12:50,103 Keep wigglin'. 223 00:12:51,521 --> 00:12:53,439 That's where I met half of the people 224 00:12:53,523 --> 00:12:55,984 that I became acquainted with. 225 00:12:56,442 --> 00:12:57,777 We were all working for nothing. 226 00:12:58,069 --> 00:13:00,697 Well, one of Gerry's motivations 227 00:13:01,614 --> 00:13:02,991 was to get laid. 228 00:13:05,118 --> 00:13:07,745 Really. And he did. 229 00:13:07,829 --> 00:13:09,122 [laughing] 230 00:13:09,455 --> 00:13:11,207 [Andrea True] You could make a living 231 00:13:11,290 --> 00:13:14,002 if you were a filmmaker, making these films. 232 00:13:14,168 --> 00:13:17,296 Quite a number of people became legitimate Hollywood directors 233 00:13:17,380 --> 00:13:18,381 out of the porn industry. 234 00:13:18,589 --> 00:13:21,175 I mean, for a while there, it was kinda like the entry level job 235 00:13:21,259 --> 00:13:22,552 that you would do. 236 00:13:22,635 --> 00:13:24,929 Uh, you would work on... on porn. 237 00:13:26,973 --> 00:13:28,558 I'm... I, I certainly worked on them. 238 00:13:28,641 --> 00:13:30,810 I'm not gonna say which ones, but I, I was around it. 239 00:13:31,269 --> 00:13:33,187 [Damiano] All of sudden, there was a new word. 240 00:13:33,271 --> 00:13:35,273 It was called "filmmaker." 241 00:13:35,523 --> 00:13:38,192 You became an independent filmmaker. 242 00:13:39,152 --> 00:13:41,779 We were actually doing it 243 00:13:41,863 --> 00:13:43,573 [chuckling] and we couldn't believe it. 244 00:13:43,656 --> 00:13:45,867 We couldn't believe it, and thank God there was, 245 00:13:45,950 --> 00:13:47,535 there was such a thing as sex. 246 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,289 [Hopper] There was sex, but at the time, 247 00:13:51,372 --> 00:13:54,292 the only way to put hardcore sex on the screen legally, 248 00:13:54,375 --> 00:13:56,210 was in sex education films. 249 00:13:59,422 --> 00:14:01,507 My name is Dr. Morris Rosengarden. 250 00:14:01,799 --> 00:14:03,676 [Wes Craven] They would show sexual scenes, 251 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,595 but they couldn't be accused of pornography 252 00:14:05,678 --> 00:14:07,180 because it had an educational value. 253 00:14:15,938 --> 00:14:17,899 [doctor] Some men find their wives' buttocks 254 00:14:17,982 --> 00:14:20,068 very stimulating visually. 255 00:14:20,777 --> 00:14:23,863 We needed a father figure for almost everything. 256 00:14:25,823 --> 00:14:27,367 [doctor] This may be uncomfortable 257 00:14:27,450 --> 00:14:30,203 for the obese or older couples. 258 00:14:33,122 --> 00:14:36,334 [Damiano] Why did you need a doctor to tell you it was okay? 259 00:14:36,417 --> 00:14:37,835 And I said, 260 00:14:37,919 --> 00:14:40,546 "Hey, instead of discussing not doing it, 261 00:14:40,630 --> 00:14:42,548 let's do it and don't even discuss it." 262 00:14:43,466 --> 00:14:45,843 There's nothing to be ashamed of. 263 00:14:46,511 --> 00:14:47,637 [siren blaring] 264 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,806 [Hopper] But there was plenty to be afraid of. 265 00:14:49,889 --> 00:14:53,393 In addition to running the risk of arrest and incarceration, 266 00:14:53,476 --> 00:14:55,478 the criminal underworld virtually controlled 267 00:14:55,561 --> 00:14:57,480 the production of pornography. 268 00:15:07,031 --> 00:15:09,075 [Mailer] There was something exciting about it. 269 00:15:09,158 --> 00:15:12,412 It, it lived in some, uh, mid-world 270 00:15:12,495 --> 00:15:13,913 between crime and art 271 00:15:14,831 --> 00:15:16,666 and it was adventurous. 272 00:15:22,839 --> 00:15:26,426 [True] Young people today would be in it for the money 273 00:15:26,509 --> 00:15:29,637 whereas in the old days, it was for the rebellion. 274 00:15:32,515 --> 00:15:34,600 [Craven] Frankly, everybody in one way or another 275 00:15:34,684 --> 00:15:36,269 was connected to that business 276 00:15:36,352 --> 00:15:39,230 because psychologically, socially, it was happening. 277 00:15:39,772 --> 00:15:42,942 [Harry Reems] You know, it was part of a social movement at the time. 278 00:15:43,025 --> 00:15:44,986 Anybody who took chances 279 00:15:45,069 --> 00:15:47,447 in breaking the social mores of the time, 280 00:15:47,530 --> 00:15:48,948 was considered a hero. 281 00:15:51,033 --> 00:15:52,326 [Damiano] I believed in it. 282 00:15:52,410 --> 00:15:55,037 I believed that it was about time to say 283 00:15:55,121 --> 00:15:56,789 that sex is a beautiful thing, 284 00:15:56,873 --> 00:15:58,499 the human body is a beautiful thing, 285 00:15:58,583 --> 00:16:00,293 and you really shouldn't be ashamed of it. 286 00:16:02,420 --> 00:16:04,547 [Hopper] Securing financial backing from partners 287 00:16:04,630 --> 00:16:05,923 with underworld connections, 288 00:16:06,007 --> 00:16:09,427 Damiano raised enough money to shoot a hardcore sex feature. 289 00:16:09,510 --> 00:16:12,555 It was going to be called The Doctor Makes a House Call. 290 00:16:12,638 --> 00:16:14,390 Then Damiano met his muse, 291 00:16:14,474 --> 00:16:17,226 Linda Lovelace, and everything changed. 292 00:16:23,441 --> 00:16:27,028 To me, I always looked at her as the girl next door. 293 00:16:34,118 --> 00:16:37,371 [Hopper] Before she became world-famous as Linda Lovelace, 294 00:16:37,455 --> 00:16:40,708 Linda Boreman dreamt of opening a clothing boutique 295 00:16:40,791 --> 00:16:43,211 until she met Chuck Traynor. 296 00:16:45,796 --> 00:16:48,508 [Patsy Carroll] I guess he was an escape for her. 297 00:16:48,633 --> 00:16:51,928 She was not comfortable living in her parents' home. 298 00:16:52,803 --> 00:16:54,597 And he took her away from that. 299 00:16:57,892 --> 00:17:00,561 But things started getting strange. 300 00:17:01,979 --> 00:17:04,732 Linda told me that she had quit smoking, 301 00:17:05,525 --> 00:17:08,653 and I said, "Well, how did you do it, how did you quit?" 302 00:17:08,736 --> 00:17:11,572 She said that Chuck had hypnotized her. 303 00:17:12,740 --> 00:17:15,284 She said every time she tried to have a cigarette, 304 00:17:15,368 --> 00:17:17,828 that she would hiccup. 305 00:17:17,912 --> 00:17:19,455 I'm like, "Oh, well, okay." 306 00:17:20,331 --> 00:17:22,792 [Hopper] Within a year, they were married. 307 00:17:24,794 --> 00:17:27,296 I curse the day that she ever met 308 00:17:27,755 --> 00:17:29,257 Chuck Traynor. 309 00:17:30,258 --> 00:17:33,427 Unfortunately, he died before I could kill him, 310 00:17:33,511 --> 00:17:34,720 so lucky for him. 311 00:17:40,142 --> 00:17:44,063 Then I lost contact and her mother told me that 312 00:17:44,146 --> 00:17:48,651 uh, they're living in New York and he's doing documentary films, 313 00:17:49,694 --> 00:17:52,280 and I thought, "How nice, how exciting." 314 00:17:53,447 --> 00:17:55,116 [camera whirring] 315 00:18:03,541 --> 00:18:06,043 [Damiano] Chuck had come to my office 316 00:18:06,127 --> 00:18:08,129 and I needed a scene for another film. 317 00:18:08,212 --> 00:18:10,798 He says, "Well, Linda can do something." 318 00:18:10,881 --> 00:18:13,050 You know, she... There was no name for it. 319 00:18:13,134 --> 00:18:15,803 He says, "She gives head very well." 320 00:18:16,470 --> 00:18:17,888 I said, "Well, that's wonderful." 321 00:18:17,972 --> 00:18:20,474 So we set up with her and an actor 322 00:18:20,641 --> 00:18:22,935 to do a, a bit for another film. 323 00:18:24,979 --> 00:18:28,232 And when I saw what she could do, 324 00:18:28,316 --> 00:18:31,152 I says, "Stop the cameras." 325 00:18:31,485 --> 00:18:33,154 [camera whirring] 326 00:18:44,957 --> 00:18:47,627 All I could think about was what she was doing 327 00:18:47,710 --> 00:18:48,836 was so unique 328 00:18:48,919 --> 00:18:51,297 that I could build a whole film around it. 329 00:18:55,301 --> 00:18:59,263 Making a motion picture specifically about that sexual act, 330 00:18:59,930 --> 00:19:02,350 I, I found very daring and very courageous. 331 00:19:04,060 --> 00:19:07,313 [Damiano] The first thing that came to my mind was, was the title 332 00:19:07,396 --> 00:19:09,315 of Deep, Deep Throat. 333 00:19:09,398 --> 00:19:12,777 Because something happened deep down in, in her throat. 334 00:19:15,655 --> 00:19:19,325 What? The clitoris is in her throat? 335 00:19:22,787 --> 00:19:24,372 Gerry, you can't do this. 336 00:19:24,455 --> 00:19:25,873 [chuckling] 337 00:19:25,956 --> 00:19:29,251 You can't do this. It's absurd, it's silly. 338 00:19:29,335 --> 00:19:31,253 Nobody will believe it. 339 00:19:31,962 --> 00:19:33,381 I thought it was, 340 00:19:37,176 --> 00:19:38,969 [stammering] you know... 341 00:19:40,596 --> 00:19:43,099 Absurd. I did. 342 00:19:43,265 --> 00:19:46,310 Believe it or not, some people said, "What is this, a medical film? 343 00:19:46,394 --> 00:19:48,979 What are you gonna do? With doctors?" 344 00:19:49,438 --> 00:19:51,315 I said, "No. No." 345 00:19:51,482 --> 00:19:53,776 Somebody said it should be The Sword Swallower. 346 00:19:53,859 --> 00:19:57,029 I said, "No, no. Deep Throat, believe me, it'll work. It'll work." 347 00:19:57,822 --> 00:19:59,115 And, uh, 348 00:19:59,865 --> 00:20:03,744 [chuckling] I'm glad I didn't change it to The Sword Swallower. 349 00:20:06,747 --> 00:20:09,417 I, kind of, had the whole thing 350 00:20:09,500 --> 00:20:12,420 in my head driving over the 59th Street Bridge. 351 00:20:12,503 --> 00:20:14,839 That weekend, I wrote the script 352 00:20:14,922 --> 00:20:16,716 and we, we were ready to do it. 353 00:20:20,678 --> 00:20:23,180 And I spoke to my production manager, 354 00:20:23,264 --> 00:20:24,306 Ronnie Wertheim. 355 00:20:29,437 --> 00:20:32,690 The phone rang. It was Gerry. All excited. 356 00:20:33,149 --> 00:20:36,527 And I told him to bring all our cast and crew 357 00:20:36,610 --> 00:20:39,155 down to Florida. We're going to make the film. 358 00:20:40,656 --> 00:20:43,701 [Wertheim] I just called, uh, Harry Reems. 359 00:20:43,868 --> 00:20:46,036 He came as a production assistant. 360 00:20:46,120 --> 00:20:48,247 He wasn't even supposed to be in the film. 361 00:20:53,294 --> 00:20:55,337 [Reems] When we got to Florida, we all checked into 362 00:20:55,421 --> 00:20:58,424 this, uh, motel, I think it was called The Voyager. 363 00:20:58,507 --> 00:21:01,761 [Wertheim] As we pulled in, we saw Linda Lovelace 364 00:21:04,013 --> 00:21:06,056 lying on the lawn with her... 365 00:21:06,140 --> 00:21:08,184 You know what her pussycat's name was? 366 00:21:08,893 --> 00:21:11,854 Adolf Hitler. He had a mustache like that. 367 00:21:18,903 --> 00:21:20,946 We came from New York 368 00:21:21,030 --> 00:21:23,908 with the promise of having locations. 369 00:21:27,578 --> 00:21:29,747 [Lenny Camp] To me, it was nothing. 370 00:21:29,830 --> 00:21:33,334 I thought nothing of it. I thought it was just a, a piece of shit film. 371 00:21:33,834 --> 00:21:36,712 Probably one of the worst porno movies ever made. 372 00:21:37,546 --> 00:21:40,674 He's nuts. Lenny Camp was nuts. 373 00:21:40,758 --> 00:21:43,511 He was one of the guys that were lining up everything for us. 374 00:21:43,594 --> 00:21:45,596 And, uh, we got nothing. 375 00:21:48,098 --> 00:21:49,683 If it wasn't for us, 376 00:21:49,767 --> 00:21:51,685 this guy would look like a piece of shit, 377 00:21:51,769 --> 00:21:52,770 which he really is. 378 00:21:54,188 --> 00:21:57,233 The only thing that saved us, I said, "Wait a minute, 379 00:21:57,316 --> 00:22:00,361 we're at The Voyager Motel, let's go back and shoot 380 00:22:00,444 --> 00:22:02,780 what we were supposed to do here in the pool." 381 00:22:02,863 --> 00:22:04,949 From that moment on, everybody was location hunting. 382 00:22:05,157 --> 00:22:08,035 One of the locations that we shot at down in Florida, 383 00:22:08,118 --> 00:22:11,497 was at this, uh, home in Coconut Grove 384 00:22:12,248 --> 00:22:15,376 that was owned by a guy who called himself a count. 385 00:22:15,543 --> 00:22:17,795 He's not a count. He's a horseshit count. 386 00:22:17,878 --> 00:22:20,464 He is no count, he's fucking Sepy Dobronyi. 387 00:22:20,548 --> 00:22:23,217 And God knows if that's his real name. 388 00:22:31,433 --> 00:22:33,394 When we came, they had this elaborate, 389 00:22:33,477 --> 00:22:34,770 elaborate, elaborate wine cellar. 390 00:22:35,312 --> 00:22:37,064 Will we go to the wine cellar? 391 00:22:37,147 --> 00:22:38,315 [interviewer] Yes. 392 00:22:40,109 --> 00:22:44,488 ♪ Yeah, oh, yeah, Oh, yeah ♪ 393 00:22:46,532 --> 00:22:51,495 ♪ Yeah, oh, yeah, Oh, yeah ♪ 394 00:22:54,290 --> 00:22:56,083 ♪ Yeah, oh, yeah... ♪ 395 00:22:56,166 --> 00:22:58,627 [Sepy speaking] 396 00:23:09,346 --> 00:23:12,474 If it was planned, it would not have been as exciting, 397 00:23:12,558 --> 00:23:15,603 'cause we were just rushing from one place to another. 398 00:23:16,770 --> 00:23:18,063 [Helen] You all right? 399 00:23:18,147 --> 00:23:19,898 Yeah, I'm fine, what makes you say that? 400 00:23:19,982 --> 00:23:21,775 You, the way you're acting. 401 00:23:21,859 --> 00:23:23,902 [Damiano] In the very beginning, there were no 402 00:23:23,986 --> 00:23:26,113 porno actors and actresses. 403 00:23:26,196 --> 00:23:28,866 So everybody had to be taught. 404 00:23:29,408 --> 00:23:30,909 The actors are all shit. 405 00:23:31,368 --> 00:23:33,579 Not-- not taught in the sense of taught. 406 00:23:33,662 --> 00:23:34,997 Taught how to be natural. 407 00:23:35,706 --> 00:23:36,874 Sex, 408 00:23:37,374 --> 00:23:40,044 it makes me feel sort of tingly all over. 409 00:23:40,377 --> 00:23:41,420 And then... 410 00:23:41,503 --> 00:23:42,546 [Helen] And then what? 411 00:23:42,630 --> 00:23:43,672 Nothing. 412 00:23:43,756 --> 00:23:46,300 I mean, there should be more to sex than a lot of little tingles. 413 00:23:46,467 --> 00:23:48,260 There should be bells ringing, 414 00:23:48,344 --> 00:23:50,971 dams bursting, bombs going off, something. 415 00:23:51,055 --> 00:23:53,432 Do you want to get off or do you want to wreck a city? 416 00:23:53,515 --> 00:23:55,267 Helen, please, be serious. 417 00:23:55,476 --> 00:23:57,186 Gerry knew nothing about it. 418 00:23:57,519 --> 00:24:01,607 He knew nothing about acting, he knew nothing about, um... 419 00:24:02,733 --> 00:24:04,777 He knew nothing. He knew nothing. 420 00:24:04,985 --> 00:24:07,321 But as a swinger himself, 421 00:24:07,404 --> 00:24:09,865 he had a feel for how to get people 422 00:24:09,948 --> 00:24:11,116 in a sexual mood. 423 00:24:11,992 --> 00:24:14,495 ♪ Do you wanna touch me? ♪ 424 00:24:14,578 --> 00:24:19,291 ♪ Do you wanna touch me? Do you wanna touch me? Yeah ♪ 425 00:24:19,375 --> 00:24:22,461 The really important thing was Harry Reems. 426 00:24:23,337 --> 00:24:25,756 I couldn't find anybody in Florida 427 00:24:25,839 --> 00:24:28,384 that could even come close to doing the role. 428 00:24:28,467 --> 00:24:31,470 So at one point, I fired him off the crew, 429 00:24:31,553 --> 00:24:32,763 [chuckling] 430 00:24:32,846 --> 00:24:35,474 and hired him as the lead, and thank God he was there, 431 00:24:35,557 --> 00:24:38,060 because I, I don't know of anybody 432 00:24:38,727 --> 00:24:41,230 that could have even come close to doing 433 00:24:41,313 --> 00:24:43,023 the job that he did, 434 00:24:43,524 --> 00:24:44,900 as the wacky doctor. 435 00:24:45,067 --> 00:24:46,610 I want to hear bells. 436 00:24:46,694 --> 00:24:47,820 Bells? 437 00:24:47,903 --> 00:24:49,113 -Bombs. -Bombs? 438 00:24:49,196 --> 00:24:50,698 And dams bursting. 439 00:24:50,781 --> 00:24:51,990 The rockets' red glare. 440 00:24:52,157 --> 00:24:55,327 No, he's not an actor, he knows that. 441 00:24:57,705 --> 00:24:59,289 Bombs bursting in air. 442 00:24:59,373 --> 00:25:02,835 ♪ Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there ♪ 443 00:25:03,335 --> 00:25:05,713 He, he would get an erection 444 00:25:06,755 --> 00:25:09,174 at the sound of the camera motor. 445 00:25:11,552 --> 00:25:12,594 That explains a lot. 446 00:25:15,055 --> 00:25:18,016 You know, I... I, uh, I never had a problem 447 00:25:18,642 --> 00:25:20,561 um, getting an erection. 448 00:25:21,145 --> 00:25:26,108 ♪ Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, Oh, yeah ♪ 449 00:25:26,608 --> 00:25:28,777 [Damiano] Linda had the hots for Harry Reems. 450 00:25:29,111 --> 00:25:31,572 And the morning we were gonna do 451 00:25:31,655 --> 00:25:33,949 the deep throat scene, 452 00:25:34,116 --> 00:25:36,160 she came to me and she was very upset, 453 00:25:36,910 --> 00:25:37,995 and she says, 454 00:25:38,078 --> 00:25:41,123 "Chuck is, is so jealous of Harry Reems 455 00:25:41,457 --> 00:25:43,792 that I don't think I can do a good job." 456 00:25:43,876 --> 00:25:45,919 Chuck was a member of our crew. 457 00:25:46,837 --> 00:25:48,672 Production manager sent him to... 458 00:25:48,756 --> 00:25:51,425 Uh, we said we're running out of film. 459 00:25:51,717 --> 00:25:53,761 So he went to Miami to buy film 460 00:25:53,844 --> 00:25:55,220 when we shot the scene, 461 00:25:55,345 --> 00:25:59,558 Linda was completely relaxed, and she did a marvelous job. 462 00:26:19,620 --> 00:26:24,166 Uh, when I saw her do that, yes, it is kind of amazing. 463 00:26:24,833 --> 00:26:27,002 Kind of amazing. It really is. 464 00:26:28,212 --> 00:26:30,547 Surprised? I was flabbergasted. 465 00:26:30,631 --> 00:26:31,673 I had no idea. 466 00:26:32,299 --> 00:26:35,803 [Sepy speaking] 467 00:26:38,889 --> 00:26:41,391 [Linda Williams] This was the moment that heterosexual film 468 00:26:41,475 --> 00:26:43,852 became interested in blowjobs. 469 00:26:43,936 --> 00:26:46,355 I mean, it's not that fellatio didn't exist. 470 00:26:46,438 --> 00:26:49,483 Certainly, you see fellatio in stag films. 471 00:26:49,650 --> 00:26:53,904 Um, but you don't get this fellatio 472 00:26:53,987 --> 00:26:55,781 as figured as 473 00:26:55,864 --> 00:26:58,283 the be-all and end-all, 474 00:26:58,367 --> 00:27:00,118 as the absolute pleasure. 475 00:27:00,494 --> 00:27:02,329 [Hefner] The thing that you have to remember 476 00:27:02,412 --> 00:27:04,331 about fellatio is, 477 00:27:04,414 --> 00:27:07,292 historically, it had been considered illegal 478 00:27:07,376 --> 00:27:09,920 and referred to as the abominable, 479 00:27:10,003 --> 00:27:11,588 detestable crimes against nature. 480 00:27:12,172 --> 00:27:14,383 Deep throat was not a term 481 00:27:14,466 --> 00:27:17,886 that my girlfriends and I really knew anything about. 482 00:27:17,970 --> 00:27:21,098 Most of us had never even heard of oral sex or how to perform it. 483 00:27:21,181 --> 00:27:22,724 And people who wouldn't have dreamed 484 00:27:22,808 --> 00:27:25,018 of going near that sort of matter 485 00:27:25,102 --> 00:27:27,396 in the '40s and '50s, and certainly in the '30s, 486 00:27:27,479 --> 00:27:30,023 because that was dirty, that was low sex, that was dreadful, 487 00:27:30,107 --> 00:27:32,401 began to see it as an enrichment. 488 00:27:32,693 --> 00:27:35,070 And I'll just mention that ejaculate, 489 00:27:35,237 --> 00:27:37,656 I've always known, was good for the complexion. 490 00:27:37,739 --> 00:27:41,034 [chuckling] It's full of babies, it's, it's full of protein, 491 00:27:41,118 --> 00:27:43,537 it's full of, uh, plasma. 492 00:27:43,620 --> 00:27:46,623 And to rub it all over your face and neck and chest, 493 00:27:46,707 --> 00:27:48,750 a lot of women know that that's a good thing to do, 494 00:27:48,834 --> 00:27:50,794 not for him but for you. 495 00:27:53,964 --> 00:27:56,675 [Hopper] Gerry returned to New York to edit his film. 496 00:27:56,758 --> 00:27:58,802 But there was still one thing he needed. 497 00:27:58,886 --> 00:28:02,639 A mind-blowing cinematic female orgasm: 498 00:28:02,973 --> 00:28:05,350 proof of the success of Linda's quest 499 00:28:05,434 --> 00:28:07,185 for sexual satisfaction. 500 00:28:11,857 --> 00:28:14,526 People didn't understand that women 501 00:28:14,610 --> 00:28:17,070 could have as much... 502 00:28:18,322 --> 00:28:20,324 Feel as much pleasure as men did. 503 00:28:20,782 --> 00:28:22,951 Somehow, nobody ever acknowledged 504 00:28:23,035 --> 00:28:25,287 there was such a thing as an orgasm for a woman. 505 00:28:25,370 --> 00:28:26,663 That was all male stuff. 506 00:28:30,959 --> 00:28:33,170 [Williams] It is harder to show female pleasure. 507 00:28:33,253 --> 00:28:35,213 It's harder to show female pleasure, 508 00:28:35,297 --> 00:28:38,300 and to believe that it's actually happening. 509 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,636 That's why I wanted to show it. 510 00:28:42,596 --> 00:28:45,015 [Damiano] I went to the film archives 511 00:28:45,098 --> 00:28:46,266 in, in Washington 512 00:28:46,350 --> 00:28:48,894 and got footage of a rocket 513 00:28:49,394 --> 00:28:52,439 and then did subliminal cutting with, with the rocket 514 00:28:52,522 --> 00:28:54,233 and Linda, back and forth. 515 00:28:54,942 --> 00:28:56,944 [rocket engines roaring] 516 00:28:57,444 --> 00:29:00,155 [Jong] This is a male fantasy that says: 517 00:29:00,656 --> 00:29:02,574 "I like to have my cock sucked. 518 00:29:02,658 --> 00:29:06,662 I really get off on it, therefore she must, too." 519 00:29:06,954 --> 00:29:07,913 [rocket engines roaring] 520 00:29:07,996 --> 00:29:10,040 [bell tolling] 521 00:29:10,123 --> 00:29:12,125 [rocket engines roaring] 522 00:29:12,459 --> 00:29:13,919 I think that was a hell of a shot. 523 00:29:14,169 --> 00:29:15,212 [roaring] 524 00:29:15,295 --> 00:29:18,090 [fireworks exploding] 525 00:29:18,298 --> 00:29:21,093 Look, men want to believe 526 00:29:21,176 --> 00:29:23,262 that the clitoris is in a woman's throat. 527 00:29:23,345 --> 00:29:26,181 Because if they believe that the clitoris is in a woman's throat, 528 00:29:26,265 --> 00:29:28,308 then they can believe that by thrusting 529 00:29:28,392 --> 00:29:30,310 their penis into a woman's mouth, 530 00:29:30,394 --> 00:29:32,938 she gets as much pleasure as they do. 531 00:29:33,021 --> 00:29:35,524 Guess what? It's not true. 532 00:29:36,984 --> 00:29:39,069 Uh, you know, I, I guess, uh... 533 00:29:40,153 --> 00:29:43,824 Deep Throat opened up a, uh, a can of worms. 534 00:29:47,035 --> 00:29:51,456 ♪ Get down, get down, Get down, get down ♪ 535 00:29:52,457 --> 00:29:54,543 When hardcore pornography is permitted 536 00:29:54,626 --> 00:29:56,169 to corrupt the minds of children, 537 00:29:56,253 --> 00:29:59,131 then the time has come for new moral leadership 538 00:29:59,214 --> 00:30:00,882 to make itself felt in America. 539 00:30:00,966 --> 00:30:02,718 [crowd applauding] 540 00:30:04,761 --> 00:30:07,180 [Hopper] Before Deep Throat was even shot, 541 00:30:07,264 --> 00:30:10,684 politics and pornography were on a collision course. 542 00:30:11,101 --> 00:30:15,105 In 1968, the government launched a scientific commission 543 00:30:15,188 --> 00:30:19,026 to determine if pornography really was harmful. 544 00:30:19,109 --> 00:30:20,694 ♪ Jungle Boogie ♪ 545 00:30:20,777 --> 00:30:23,613 ♪ Jungle Boogie Get it on ♪ 546 00:30:23,697 --> 00:30:25,198 [machine beeping] 547 00:30:25,282 --> 00:30:26,825 [moaning] 548 00:30:26,908 --> 00:30:28,201 ♪ Get it on ♪ 549 00:30:28,410 --> 00:30:31,288 [Howard Smith] Well, today, the final results were published. 550 00:30:31,371 --> 00:30:33,457 The presidential commission recommended doing away 551 00:30:33,540 --> 00:30:35,751 with most of the laws that cover pornography, 552 00:30:35,834 --> 00:30:38,211 because they don't seem to be doing much good, 553 00:30:38,295 --> 00:30:41,882 and because pornography doesn't seem to do much harm to the adult mind. 554 00:30:43,175 --> 00:30:46,345 [Georgina Spelvin] For one brief, shining moment, it did look like 555 00:30:47,095 --> 00:30:48,722 society was going to become 556 00:30:48,805 --> 00:30:52,017 a little more adult about their sexuality. 557 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,604 [Hopper] But committee member Charles Keating, 558 00:30:55,687 --> 00:30:57,314 appointed by President Nixon, 559 00:30:57,397 --> 00:30:59,066 fought to dismiss the findings. 560 00:30:59,274 --> 00:31:01,985 Obscenity does indeed affect. 561 00:31:02,069 --> 00:31:05,155 The effect it has is detrimental to society. 562 00:31:05,489 --> 00:31:09,117 Charles Keating was a notorious censorship bug. 563 00:31:09,201 --> 00:31:11,953 Later on, of course, we discovered he was a good deal more. 564 00:31:12,037 --> 00:31:15,457 He was a swindler and went to prison. 565 00:31:15,540 --> 00:31:18,752 The president said today, "So long as I am in the White House, 566 00:31:18,835 --> 00:31:21,004 there will be no relaxation of the national effort 567 00:31:21,088 --> 00:31:23,340 to control and eliminate smut." 568 00:31:23,507 --> 00:31:25,425 [Hopper] Then Nixon persuaded the Senate 569 00:31:25,509 --> 00:31:28,720 to reject the report, suppressing its findings. 570 00:31:29,388 --> 00:31:30,680 Everybody forgot about 571 00:31:30,764 --> 00:31:33,683 the President's commission on pornography, 572 00:31:33,767 --> 00:31:35,477 because they, they didn't come out 573 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,229 with the answer they were looking for. 574 00:31:37,854 --> 00:31:41,191 Instead, Nixon got reelected, 575 00:31:41,274 --> 00:31:43,902 after being declared politically dead, 576 00:31:43,985 --> 00:31:46,488 and the forces of repression came in, 577 00:31:46,571 --> 00:31:49,658 in a huge, huge way. 578 00:31:50,784 --> 00:31:53,370 [Gore Vidal] He knew all the buttons to press. 579 00:31:53,662 --> 00:31:54,621 Sodomy... 580 00:31:54,704 --> 00:31:56,415 [crowd clamoring] 581 00:31:57,124 --> 00:31:58,125 [exclaiming] 582 00:31:58,208 --> 00:32:01,420 I mean, everybody starts to vibrate like a gong. 583 00:32:05,590 --> 00:32:09,469 We lie about human sexuality, because we're taught to lie about everything. 584 00:32:10,303 --> 00:32:12,556 When you have a nation that totally lies, 585 00:32:13,432 --> 00:32:14,766 then you have no reality. 586 00:32:18,687 --> 00:32:20,063 [Hopper] The message was clear: 587 00:32:20,147 --> 00:32:21,940 Cleaning up porn was good politics. 588 00:32:22,023 --> 00:32:24,818 And what better place to start than Times Square, 589 00:32:24,901 --> 00:32:26,862 the nation's capital of sleaze 590 00:32:26,987 --> 00:32:28,989 and the site of Deep Throat's premiere 591 00:32:29,072 --> 00:32:31,700 in June 1972. 592 00:32:40,333 --> 00:32:42,419 [Judge Tyler] A good many of the so-called perverts 593 00:32:42,502 --> 00:32:43,962 are attracted to the 42nd Street area, 594 00:32:44,045 --> 00:32:45,172 and we've had complaints. 595 00:32:46,715 --> 00:32:48,467 ♪ Superfly ♪ 596 00:32:48,550 --> 00:32:50,177 [siren blaring] 597 00:32:53,638 --> 00:32:56,892 [Goldstein] Suddenly, I see a movie that knocks my socks off. 598 00:32:56,975 --> 00:32:58,393 And here's the wonderful thing: 599 00:32:58,477 --> 00:33:01,313 This film, Deep Throat, is funny. 600 00:33:01,897 --> 00:33:05,609 And Linda's a wonderful, wonderful cocksucker. 601 00:33:06,276 --> 00:33:08,695 God, I wish my wives could suck dick like that. 602 00:33:09,738 --> 00:33:12,032 And I give it 100 points on the Peter-Meter. 603 00:33:12,115 --> 00:33:14,826 "Peter" means how many hard-ons do I get. 604 00:33:14,951 --> 00:33:18,788 Now it would take 5,000 Viagra to get me hard, 605 00:33:18,872 --> 00:33:22,626 but then I'm virile and young and I get many hard-ons. 606 00:33:23,168 --> 00:33:26,630 New Yorkers greet it with the same enthusiasm as I did. 607 00:33:27,255 --> 00:33:28,632 It was a joy. 608 00:33:28,715 --> 00:33:31,468 As we say in Israel, it was a mitzvah. 609 00:33:33,637 --> 00:33:36,223 I have the privilege of announcing 610 00:33:36,306 --> 00:33:39,434 the formation of the Times Square Development Council. 611 00:33:40,477 --> 00:33:42,437 [Hopper] Deep Throat was the perfect target 612 00:33:42,521 --> 00:33:45,065 for New York's campaign to clean up porn 613 00:33:45,148 --> 00:33:47,108 and the police moved in. 614 00:33:48,109 --> 00:33:49,903 [projector whirring] 615 00:33:53,031 --> 00:33:55,075 [John Gorman] I first became aware of Deep Throat 616 00:33:55,158 --> 00:33:57,577 when it was, uh, it was advertised in the papers. 617 00:33:59,412 --> 00:34:01,998 It was the talk of the office, you know, "Look at this." 618 00:34:04,918 --> 00:34:06,670 [Gorman] Being in the industry, so to speak, 619 00:34:06,753 --> 00:34:08,213 we all ran out to see it. 620 00:34:09,631 --> 00:34:10,757 It was stunning. 621 00:34:12,717 --> 00:34:16,221 The cinematography, for a porno movie, was very good. 622 00:34:16,304 --> 00:34:17,347 The movie was funny. 623 00:34:17,430 --> 00:34:20,392 It had the kind of lines in it, uh, that were amusing. 624 00:34:21,101 --> 00:34:24,271 Mind if I smoke while you're eating? 625 00:34:24,354 --> 00:34:25,939 No, not at all. 626 00:34:30,735 --> 00:34:32,112 It was definitely a change of pace, 627 00:34:32,195 --> 00:34:33,738 definitely a change of pace. 628 00:34:36,032 --> 00:34:38,952 We knew that this was, uh, this was something different. 629 00:34:39,035 --> 00:34:43,790 ♪ Love, love is strange ♪ 630 00:34:45,375 --> 00:34:47,294 [Hefner] I think they picked on Deep Throat 631 00:34:47,377 --> 00:34:50,130 because it was the highest profile. 632 00:34:50,213 --> 00:34:53,174 If they could, uh, successfully prosecute Deep Throat, 633 00:34:53,258 --> 00:34:55,135 uh, then they felt that 634 00:34:55,218 --> 00:34:56,928 the other prosecutions would be easier. 635 00:35:00,557 --> 00:35:03,476 [Hopper] Not once, not twice, but three times 636 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,228 the police raided Deep Throat, 637 00:35:05,312 --> 00:35:08,106 staging their final raid for the cameras. 638 00:35:08,398 --> 00:35:10,191 [people chattering] 639 00:35:11,359 --> 00:35:12,944 [Herb Kassner] This was political. 640 00:35:13,028 --> 00:35:16,156 If nobody records the arrest, 641 00:35:16,698 --> 00:35:18,033 then nobody will know 642 00:35:18,116 --> 00:35:21,578 that they are doing their job in fighting sin. 643 00:35:21,911 --> 00:35:25,248 Do you, you consider what you're running pornographic, sir? 644 00:35:25,457 --> 00:35:26,916 If it was pornographic, 645 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,628 they could prosecute in a diligent, proper manner. 646 00:35:29,711 --> 00:35:32,756 They wouldn't have to come around in hoards of 50 647 00:35:33,048 --> 00:35:35,091 and take signs out of windows 648 00:35:35,425 --> 00:35:37,385 and act like the Gestapo of old. 649 00:35:38,762 --> 00:35:43,725 This theater that had not done $5,000 a week in 20 years, 650 00:35:45,018 --> 00:35:48,605 was running virtually 20 hours a day. 651 00:35:49,314 --> 00:35:50,774 It never stopped running. 652 00:35:51,191 --> 00:35:53,193 The owners really couldn't afford to shut it down. 653 00:35:53,276 --> 00:35:54,653 They didn't want to shut it down. 654 00:35:54,736 --> 00:35:57,989 And so, uh, there, there was going to be a trial. 655 00:36:03,870 --> 00:36:05,205 [gavel pounding] 656 00:36:05,288 --> 00:36:07,999 [Hopper] Deep Throat's defense produced expert witnesses 657 00:36:08,083 --> 00:36:12,045 to argue that the film was more enlightening than merely obscene. 658 00:36:14,047 --> 00:36:15,590 [witness speaking] 659 00:36:24,683 --> 00:36:26,768 [Hopper] But the prosecution countered 660 00:36:26,851 --> 00:36:30,021 that this sexual satisfaction was dangerous to women 661 00:36:30,105 --> 00:36:33,692 because Deep Throat emphasized the wrong kind of orgasm: 662 00:36:34,192 --> 00:36:35,985 the clitoral orgasm. 663 00:36:36,986 --> 00:36:39,572 [William Purcell] I remember that the judge hadn't heard the term. 664 00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:42,575 And, uh, so he expressed surprise 665 00:36:42,659 --> 00:36:43,868 and asked the question, "What's that?" 666 00:36:46,830 --> 00:36:50,917 [doctor] Here, just outside and above the vaginal opening 667 00:36:51,584 --> 00:36:53,920 [echoing] is the clitoris. 668 00:36:54,003 --> 00:36:55,547 [prosecution speaking] 669 00:37:09,978 --> 00:37:12,355 [doctor's voice echoing] The clitoris. 670 00:37:12,439 --> 00:37:14,858 He should have been sitting in my classes 671 00:37:14,941 --> 00:37:18,111 because he would have heard me say loud and clear 672 00:37:18,278 --> 00:37:20,989 that let's get away from that idea, 673 00:37:21,072 --> 00:37:22,866 which still some people have, 674 00:37:22,949 --> 00:37:25,910 that, uh, a vaginal orgasm 675 00:37:25,994 --> 00:37:28,872 is, um, more satisfying for a woman 676 00:37:28,955 --> 00:37:31,124 than a clitoral orgasm. No such thing. 677 00:37:32,167 --> 00:37:35,336 [Helen Brown] At that time, a real orgasm could only happen 678 00:37:35,420 --> 00:37:36,755 if you were with a man 679 00:37:36,838 --> 00:37:39,174 and his penis was inside of you 680 00:37:39,257 --> 00:37:42,927 and that was total, utter nonsense, of course. 681 00:37:45,513 --> 00:37:48,057 Sex is not only for penises. 682 00:37:48,141 --> 00:37:51,102 Uh, sex is something for women. 683 00:37:51,186 --> 00:37:52,896 [doctor's voice echoing] The clitoris. 684 00:37:52,979 --> 00:37:54,689 [doctor] This tiny organ, 685 00:37:54,773 --> 00:37:57,400 about the size and shape of a garden pea, 686 00:37:57,901 --> 00:38:00,695 is the seat of sexuality in women. 687 00:38:01,863 --> 00:38:05,241 I think the judge learned a lot during the trial 688 00:38:05,658 --> 00:38:08,620 as I... Look, I, I certainly did myself. 689 00:38:11,289 --> 00:38:13,458 [Hopper] As the judge retired to consider his verdict, 690 00:38:13,541 --> 00:38:15,418 ticket sales almost doubled, 691 00:38:15,502 --> 00:38:19,047 prompting a young reporter from The New York Times to write an article 692 00:38:19,130 --> 00:38:22,217 that would give the film mainstream legitimacy. 693 00:38:22,717 --> 00:38:24,761 [Ralph Blumenthal] I remember writing the article. 694 00:38:24,844 --> 00:38:26,971 Uh, the--the headline was "Porno chic." 695 00:38:27,055 --> 00:38:28,723 [chuckling] I wrote it on a typewriter. 696 00:38:31,226 --> 00:38:33,436 People look at the Times as a validator. 697 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,356 And they see, if, if the Times can write about Deep Throat, 698 00:38:36,439 --> 00:38:37,941 well, then it must be safe in some way. 699 00:38:40,944 --> 00:38:42,946 [Hopper] The week the article hit the stands, 700 00:38:43,029 --> 00:38:44,989 the film's box office soared 701 00:38:45,073 --> 00:38:48,535 as people rushed to see the film in record numbers. 702 00:38:51,204 --> 00:38:54,415 [male reporter] Approximately how many people have seen Deep Throat? 703 00:38:54,499 --> 00:38:57,085 Approximately 1,700 people a day have been in to see the film. 704 00:38:59,546 --> 00:39:01,506 [reporter] Are you looking forward to this movie? 705 00:39:01,589 --> 00:39:02,674 Yes, I am. 706 00:39:02,757 --> 00:39:05,844 People from Central Park West and Fifth Avenue and Park Avenue 707 00:39:05,927 --> 00:39:07,971 wanted to go down and see it and go slumming. 708 00:39:09,472 --> 00:39:12,934 [Xaviera Hollander] There was a private showing. Before I knew what happened, 709 00:39:13,017 --> 00:39:14,894 there was, like, group sex happening, left, right, and center. 710 00:39:21,651 --> 00:39:24,320 [patron] Since this is supposed to be it of its genre, 711 00:39:24,404 --> 00:39:27,115 and since it's had this piece in the New York Times, 712 00:39:27,198 --> 00:39:29,033 I might as well see it if it's going. 713 00:39:31,077 --> 00:39:32,829 [reporter] What are you expecting to see? 714 00:39:32,912 --> 00:39:34,038 Well, uh, 715 00:39:34,122 --> 00:39:37,125 you might close me down if I said what I was going to say. 716 00:39:38,710 --> 00:39:42,672 It took porn out of the realm of the forbidden. 717 00:39:42,755 --> 00:39:44,674 Why, there's nothing wrong with a normal man 718 00:39:44,757 --> 00:39:46,509 going to a pornographic movie. 719 00:39:46,593 --> 00:39:48,678 Normal, all right, but why were you there? 720 00:39:48,928 --> 00:39:50,513 You would see movie stars there. 721 00:39:50,597 --> 00:39:52,223 You would see society people there. 722 00:39:54,767 --> 00:39:57,687 I went to see Deep Throat because I'm fond of animal pictures. 723 00:39:57,770 --> 00:39:59,564 [audience laughing] 724 00:40:00,189 --> 00:40:01,608 I thought it was about giraffes. 725 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,114 90% of the people there are asthmatics. 726 00:40:08,197 --> 00:40:09,574 What do you mean, asthmatics? 727 00:40:09,657 --> 00:40:10,867 'Cause all I could hear was... 728 00:40:10,950 --> 00:40:11,868 [panting] 729 00:40:11,951 --> 00:40:12,952 [audience laughing] 730 00:40:13,036 --> 00:40:14,495 People weren't jerking off 731 00:40:15,288 --> 00:40:18,541 when, you know... I don't know who's sitting next to you, Angela Lansbury or... 732 00:40:18,625 --> 00:40:20,627 I'm just picking her out, but, but basically, 733 00:40:20,710 --> 00:40:22,378 because she'd just put a damper on things. 734 00:40:22,587 --> 00:40:24,714 What did you say the name of that movie was? 735 00:40:24,797 --> 00:40:26,132 Uh, Deep Threat. 736 00:40:26,215 --> 00:40:28,468 You'd better hurry up before you miss the opening 737 00:40:28,551 --> 00:40:30,261 'cause you don't wanna miss the opening. 738 00:40:30,345 --> 00:40:31,930 In the opening, Linda... 739 00:40:32,972 --> 00:40:33,973 [screaming] 740 00:40:34,140 --> 00:40:35,892 [audience laughing] 741 00:40:37,393 --> 00:40:39,103 [Hopper] Deep Throat was so successful 742 00:40:39,187 --> 00:40:41,314 that it turned Linda Lovelace from an unknown 743 00:40:41,397 --> 00:40:44,984 into a celebrity and poster-child for the new porn chic. 744 00:40:49,030 --> 00:40:51,449 I made $1,200 for Deep Throat. 745 00:40:51,991 --> 00:40:53,076 [reporter] And that's all? 746 00:40:53,159 --> 00:40:54,535 [chuckling] Yeah. 747 00:40:54,619 --> 00:40:55,662 What about... 748 00:40:55,745 --> 00:40:59,374 I'm, you know, now I'm known, so it's okay. 749 00:41:03,127 --> 00:41:05,046 [Barbara Boreman] It was about 11:00 at night 750 00:41:05,129 --> 00:41:06,756 and we were watching television. 751 00:41:08,341 --> 00:41:11,844 And we saw this theater and it said, 752 00:41:12,553 --> 00:41:15,807 you know, "Linda Lovelace, Deep Throat," or whatever it was. 753 00:41:16,140 --> 00:41:19,686 And, uh, I said, "Oh, disgusting. 754 00:41:20,687 --> 00:41:21,688 Absolutely disgusting." 755 00:41:22,814 --> 00:41:24,524 A girlfriend of mine called and said, 756 00:41:24,607 --> 00:41:26,234 "Pick up Playboy Magazine. 757 00:41:26,693 --> 00:41:29,654 If that's not Linda, I'll eat the magazine." 758 00:41:30,113 --> 00:41:32,573 So I stopped, I picked it up, 759 00:41:32,657 --> 00:41:33,992 'cause it wasn't allowed in my house. 760 00:41:38,705 --> 00:41:40,999 And I opened it up and I read it 761 00:41:41,082 --> 00:41:42,792 and I said, "Oh, my God." 762 00:41:48,006 --> 00:41:50,383 And I knew then, it was-- It was our Linda. 763 00:41:56,723 --> 00:41:59,600 That was difficult for me, to see the movie. 764 00:42:00,476 --> 00:42:01,477 [clicking] 765 00:42:01,561 --> 00:42:03,146 [crowd cheering] 766 00:42:03,855 --> 00:42:07,150 When we got home, I threw myself across the bed and started bawling. 767 00:42:07,233 --> 00:42:09,110 I was crying like, I'd, um, 768 00:42:09,193 --> 00:42:11,821 like I just found out someone I loved had died. 769 00:42:16,075 --> 00:42:17,076 And, uh, 770 00:42:18,244 --> 00:42:20,079 and it wasn't, um... 771 00:42:22,331 --> 00:42:24,208 It wasn't just, uh, you know, 772 00:42:24,292 --> 00:42:28,087 a sleazy little film on a-- On a small screen 773 00:42:28,171 --> 00:42:30,798 with a bunch of guys in trench coats there. 774 00:42:30,882 --> 00:42:34,927 I mean, there were... Society was there. 775 00:42:37,263 --> 00:42:40,600 I didn't know how Linda was going to be able to deal with that. 776 00:42:43,186 --> 00:42:47,106 [Boreman] The next time I spoke to her, she said, "I'm sorry, 777 00:42:47,607 --> 00:42:49,776 I didn't want you to know, 778 00:42:49,901 --> 00:42:52,111 'cause I knew you'd be upset or you'd be angry." 779 00:42:52,195 --> 00:42:55,823 I said, "I'm not angry, 'cause I don't know who Linda Lovelace is. 780 00:42:55,907 --> 00:42:57,241 I only know who you are." 781 00:42:59,118 --> 00:43:00,536 [camera clicking] 782 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,044 The pornographic film Deep Throat 783 00:43:08,127 --> 00:43:09,837 has become one of the most popular 784 00:43:09,921 --> 00:43:12,256 and profitable blue movies of all time. 785 00:43:12,340 --> 00:43:15,635 Today, a Manhattan criminal court judge ruled the film obscene, 786 00:43:15,718 --> 00:43:17,804 and ordered it removed from theaters in New York City. 787 00:43:19,305 --> 00:43:21,182 [Judge Tyler reading] 788 00:43:25,269 --> 00:43:28,815 A Sodom and Gomorrah gone wild before the fire. 789 00:43:29,315 --> 00:43:32,443 [Kassner] He believed he was writing for posterity. 790 00:43:33,653 --> 00:43:36,072 Now you and I know, in retrospect, 791 00:43:36,447 --> 00:43:38,741 that he accomplished absolutely nothing. 792 00:43:40,952 --> 00:43:43,496 [Judge Tyler reading] 793 00:43:44,747 --> 00:43:46,874 I readily perform the operation 794 00:43:46,958 --> 00:43:49,794 by finding the defendant guilty as charged. 795 00:43:51,045 --> 00:43:52,004 [bell tolling] 796 00:43:53,923 --> 00:43:57,552 I still think what the World Theatre did on its marquee 797 00:43:58,344 --> 00:44:00,221 was better than what he wrote in his opinion. 798 00:44:00,805 --> 00:44:03,015 "Throat cut, world mourns." 799 00:44:03,850 --> 00:44:05,768 It's a picture that'll never die. 800 00:44:07,436 --> 00:44:10,606 I mean, we'll all die, but Deep Throat won't die. 801 00:44:10,690 --> 00:44:12,191 [chuckling] 802 00:44:14,026 --> 00:44:16,154 [Hopper] Shutting Deep Throat down in New York 803 00:44:16,237 --> 00:44:19,115 only spurred audiences' interest across the country. 804 00:44:19,323 --> 00:44:22,827 Wherever it opened, authorities scrambled to shut it down. 805 00:44:22,910 --> 00:44:26,038 [man] This trash that's being shown on our movie screens 806 00:44:26,122 --> 00:44:27,248 across the country. 807 00:44:27,331 --> 00:44:30,251 There isn't any question in my mind that it's obscene. 808 00:44:30,459 --> 00:44:32,044 [woman reading] 809 00:44:33,129 --> 00:44:35,506 [Hopper] By the mid '70s, Deep Throat had been tried 810 00:44:35,590 --> 00:44:37,091 in more than 32 cities... 811 00:44:37,175 --> 00:44:38,926 [woman reading] 812 00:44:39,010 --> 00:44:41,971 and was ultimately banned in 23 states. 813 00:44:42,054 --> 00:44:44,432 Violation of the law. It's a simple thing. 814 00:44:44,515 --> 00:44:45,558 [siren wailing] 815 00:44:46,893 --> 00:44:48,269 It's obscene as hell to me. 816 00:44:54,817 --> 00:44:55,818 Mmm. 817 00:44:57,486 --> 00:44:59,822 [Hopper] Ordered to stop the spread of Deep Throat, 818 00:44:59,906 --> 00:45:01,657 the FBI stepped in. 819 00:45:01,824 --> 00:45:04,744 They began with the arrest of Gerry Damiano. 820 00:45:06,621 --> 00:45:08,915 The first question the prosecutor asked me: 821 00:45:08,998 --> 00:45:10,416 Did I know what-- 822 00:45:10,499 --> 00:45:12,919 What affiliation my partners had? 823 00:45:15,338 --> 00:45:18,215 And I said as far as I know, he's a Roman Catholic. 824 00:45:22,887 --> 00:45:25,056 All of a sudden, I'm, I'm part of the mob. 825 00:45:27,433 --> 00:45:29,977 No. I was-- I was never a mob. 826 00:45:31,312 --> 00:45:33,230 [Blumenthal] There were originally three partners 827 00:45:33,314 --> 00:45:35,024 who made the movie. 828 00:45:36,150 --> 00:45:39,403 His two partners came to him, Damiano told me, 829 00:45:39,487 --> 00:45:41,322 and told him they were buying him out. 830 00:45:41,405 --> 00:45:45,409 And I said to him, that didn't sound like a very good, uh, deal, 831 00:45:45,493 --> 00:45:47,578 uh, when you're a one-third partner of a project 832 00:45:47,662 --> 00:45:50,498 that is just, you know, bringing in bucket-loads of money 833 00:45:50,581 --> 00:45:52,333 and you're suddenly cut out of the deal. 834 00:45:52,416 --> 00:45:53,751 Uh, why didn't he object? 835 00:45:53,834 --> 00:45:56,420 And he rolled his eyes and he wouldn't say anymore. 836 00:45:56,504 --> 00:45:59,131 And the-- The only thing he told me was he didn't want his legs broken. 837 00:46:00,508 --> 00:46:03,511 No, it was easier for me to, to say: 838 00:46:05,262 --> 00:46:08,432 "I, I don't, I don't want to have anything to do with it." 839 00:46:08,516 --> 00:46:10,935 It was easier. It was a lot easier. 840 00:46:12,311 --> 00:46:15,106 It was, kind of a-- It was, kind of a-- 841 00:46:15,189 --> 00:46:17,149 A thing I could not have won. 842 00:46:21,737 --> 00:46:24,573 That's about as far as I could go with it. 843 00:46:26,993 --> 00:46:28,536 [Hopper] Damiano wasn't alone. 844 00:46:28,619 --> 00:46:31,163 Across the country, theater owners discovered 845 00:46:31,247 --> 00:46:32,915 exhibiting Deep Throat also meant 846 00:46:32,999 --> 00:46:34,709 running with the mob. 847 00:46:37,503 --> 00:46:40,172 One day, I pick up The New York Times, 848 00:46:40,965 --> 00:46:43,926 and in it, it says it is very chic 849 00:46:44,927 --> 00:46:46,429 to see Deep Throat. 850 00:46:47,138 --> 00:46:48,681 So that gave me an idea 851 00:46:49,306 --> 00:46:52,560 to see if I can get the picture for Florida. 852 00:46:53,436 --> 00:46:55,312 Luckily, I knew one of the men 853 00:46:55,396 --> 00:46:57,606 that was connected with the picture. 854 00:46:57,690 --> 00:47:00,151 And I didn't think it could run in Florida. 855 00:47:00,359 --> 00:47:04,030 And so, I was given the picture for a very reasonable amount. 856 00:47:04,697 --> 00:47:09,035 I never would have dreamt of opening that picture anywheres 857 00:47:09,368 --> 00:47:11,579 if it wasn't for that article. 858 00:47:11,662 --> 00:47:14,123 [Terry] If we don't get sued, it will be a miracle. 859 00:47:14,206 --> 00:47:16,125 Terry, please, Terry. It's almost over. 860 00:47:16,208 --> 00:47:17,668 I think it's enough. Cut. Finished. 861 00:47:17,752 --> 00:47:19,003 -It's enough. -It's almost over. 862 00:47:19,086 --> 00:47:20,254 It's almost over. 863 00:47:20,337 --> 00:47:21,922 I, I think it's enough already. 864 00:47:22,006 --> 00:47:24,633 You don't realize how people pick up on things. 865 00:47:24,717 --> 00:47:26,302 What are they picking up on, Terry? 866 00:47:26,385 --> 00:47:28,304 They're picking up on things in Miami Beach. 867 00:47:28,387 --> 00:47:30,514 You, you just said they do bad things. 868 00:47:30,598 --> 00:47:32,099 They could call you up on this. 869 00:47:32,183 --> 00:47:33,851 [Terry] Come on, Artie, don't be stupid. 870 00:47:33,934 --> 00:47:35,311 You're a grown man. 871 00:47:35,394 --> 00:47:36,479 Cut. 872 00:47:36,562 --> 00:47:37,772 Terry... 873 00:47:37,855 --> 00:47:39,774 ["Dragging the Line" by Tommy James playing] 874 00:47:39,857 --> 00:47:43,152 ♪ Making a living The old, hard way ♪ 875 00:47:43,235 --> 00:47:46,739 ♪ Taking and giving My day by day ♪ 876 00:47:47,406 --> 00:47:52,244 ♪ I dig the snow and rain And bright sunshine ♪ 877 00:47:53,537 --> 00:47:55,331 [Bill Kelly] My name is Bill Kelly. 878 00:47:55,414 --> 00:47:56,916 ♪ Draggin' the line ♪ 879 00:47:56,999 --> 00:48:01,170 The reason there were so many more obscenity cases 880 00:48:01,253 --> 00:48:02,963 after 1972 881 00:48:03,172 --> 00:48:06,092 was because I went out and looked for 'em. 882 00:48:06,717 --> 00:48:09,095 I knew it was a gamble 883 00:48:09,929 --> 00:48:13,682 because of New York having problems with the city, 884 00:48:13,766 --> 00:48:15,017 that it was on trial. 885 00:48:16,060 --> 00:48:18,521 I opened the picture and the next thing I knew 886 00:48:18,604 --> 00:48:20,106 we had lines around the corner. 887 00:48:20,272 --> 00:48:21,524 There must have been, 888 00:48:21,607 --> 00:48:25,027 I'm guessing 100 or 150 people in line when they opened. 889 00:48:25,319 --> 00:48:29,240 Every fucking FBI agent in the country was sitting in the audience. 890 00:48:29,490 --> 00:48:31,909 Kelly was there and everything else. 891 00:48:32,910 --> 00:48:34,703 [Kelly] You walked into the theater. 892 00:48:34,787 --> 00:48:36,622 There's just a, sort of a bent-nosed, 893 00:48:36,705 --> 00:48:39,375 middle-aged guy with a very rough voice. 894 00:48:39,458 --> 00:48:40,751 He says, "$5." 895 00:48:41,627 --> 00:48:43,921 So I gave him $5 and said: "Where is the ticket?" 896 00:48:44,004 --> 00:48:45,589 He said, "No tickets, just go on in." 897 00:48:45,881 --> 00:48:47,633 The movie started 898 00:48:47,925 --> 00:48:51,387 and about 50 of them got up and said: 899 00:48:51,470 --> 00:48:53,848 "It's a sex picture, get me out! Get me out! 900 00:48:53,931 --> 00:48:55,766 It's a sex picture, I can't stand it." 901 00:48:56,142 --> 00:48:58,185 [Kelly] Not only was it a violation 902 00:48:58,269 --> 00:49:00,396 of the obscenity law of the United States, 903 00:49:00,479 --> 00:49:03,566 it was also a highly organized crime enterprise. 904 00:49:06,152 --> 00:49:07,486 [Kelly] I didn't know 905 00:49:07,570 --> 00:49:10,197 who the Peraino gang was at that time. 906 00:49:10,281 --> 00:49:12,783 But I soon found out when I started investigating 907 00:49:12,867 --> 00:49:15,703 that they were heavyweights out of New York. 908 00:49:15,786 --> 00:49:18,330 They were part of the Colombo family operation 909 00:49:18,414 --> 00:49:21,125 who had moved to Fort Lauderdale area. 910 00:49:23,169 --> 00:49:26,797 I haven't seen them since I... I left. 911 00:49:31,635 --> 00:49:34,930 And I wanna make sure I don't get a phone call 912 00:49:35,014 --> 00:49:37,766 or get a knock on the door that they want to talk to me. 913 00:49:37,850 --> 00:49:40,853 Because I've been away from them for 30 years. 914 00:49:41,645 --> 00:49:44,106 And I, I'd like it to be that way. 915 00:49:44,190 --> 00:49:47,109 [Terry] This is-- This is shit as far as I'm concerned. 916 00:49:47,193 --> 00:49:48,652 Excuse my language but I can't stand it. 917 00:49:49,987 --> 00:49:52,865 He can tell you things, your hair would stand up on your heads. 918 00:49:52,948 --> 00:49:55,201 I didn't mention any of those things, Terry. 919 00:49:55,284 --> 00:49:56,911 -What? -I didn't mention any of them. 920 00:49:56,994 --> 00:49:58,245 I don't-- I don't want you to. 921 00:49:58,329 --> 00:49:59,496 I didn't. 922 00:49:59,580 --> 00:50:01,457 We haven't heard in 32 years. 923 00:50:01,540 --> 00:50:02,875 Thank God. 924 00:50:02,958 --> 00:50:04,001 So, how do you know? 925 00:50:04,084 --> 00:50:06,420 I don't know if they're living. 926 00:50:07,504 --> 00:50:09,548 They could be dead, Terry. 927 00:50:13,469 --> 00:50:15,262 [Hopper] In its second year of release, 928 00:50:15,346 --> 00:50:17,890 Deep Throat was still number 11 on the charts. 929 00:50:18,182 --> 00:50:19,683 It's a dirty movie. 930 00:50:20,017 --> 00:50:23,771 Look, try to look at it as a satire of contemporary sexual mores 931 00:50:23,854 --> 00:50:25,814 with lots of redeeming social values. 932 00:50:28,108 --> 00:50:29,985 [Hopper] Porn chic was all the rage. 933 00:50:30,069 --> 00:50:32,655 Films like Damiano's The Devil in Miss Jones 934 00:50:32,738 --> 00:50:34,198 and Behind the Green Door 935 00:50:34,281 --> 00:50:38,118 followed on the heels of Deep Throat's unprecedented success, 936 00:50:38,369 --> 00:50:41,538 giving Hollywood films a run for their money. 937 00:50:41,622 --> 00:50:45,000 [Peter Bart] The studios were in shambles in the early '70s. 938 00:50:45,084 --> 00:50:47,419 There's this movie out there, everyone's going to see it. 939 00:50:47,503 --> 00:50:50,381 How does that affect you and the pictures you should be making? 940 00:50:51,090 --> 00:50:53,634 [Lovelace] I've been the first one to go down the path. 941 00:50:53,717 --> 00:50:56,011 I'd like to see, uh, legitimate films 942 00:50:56,095 --> 00:50:59,890 and so-called pornographic films merge together. 943 00:50:59,974 --> 00:51:02,393 I think the two industries have got to merge together. 944 00:51:02,810 --> 00:51:04,311 [Lovelace] Thank you for making me 945 00:51:04,395 --> 00:51:06,689 [Lovelace] Thank you for making me 946 00:51:08,190 --> 00:51:11,318 [Bart] They were shooting porn films on the lot at Paramount. 947 00:51:11,402 --> 00:51:12,736 This is a little known fact. 948 00:51:12,945 --> 00:51:16,573 So Paramount became sort of confiscated by the porn industry. 949 00:51:16,657 --> 00:51:18,534 [reporter] Do you see yourself as a pioneer? 950 00:51:18,617 --> 00:51:19,660 [Damiano] No. 951 00:51:19,743 --> 00:51:21,704 If it's left alone, within a year, 952 00:51:21,787 --> 00:51:23,789 sex will just blend itself into film. 953 00:51:23,872 --> 00:51:25,124 It's inevitable. 954 00:51:25,207 --> 00:51:28,502 The only thing that's uncertain is, is the time it will take. 955 00:51:29,295 --> 00:51:32,131 [Hopper] But the merger of hardcore and movies never happened. 956 00:51:32,214 --> 00:51:35,884 Instead, the Supreme Court, packed with four Nixon appointees, 957 00:51:35,968 --> 00:51:38,429 made a radical change to the obscenity law 958 00:51:38,512 --> 00:51:40,723 in June 1973. 959 00:51:43,183 --> 00:51:46,061 Yesterday, the Supreme Court authorized wider restrictions 960 00:51:46,145 --> 00:51:48,314 on the exhibition and sale of obscenity. 961 00:51:49,648 --> 00:51:51,692 [male announcer] The recent Supreme Court decision 962 00:51:51,775 --> 00:51:55,321 gave local officials the right to decide for themselves what is pornographic 963 00:51:55,404 --> 00:51:58,782 without having to be guided by a national standard. 964 00:51:59,158 --> 00:52:02,244 [police siren wailing] 965 00:52:02,328 --> 00:52:03,871 [Mudd] Here in New York City today, 966 00:52:03,954 --> 00:52:06,790 vice squad police began cracking down on pornography. 967 00:52:09,752 --> 00:52:12,171 [police sirens wailing] 968 00:52:12,671 --> 00:52:15,049 [reporter] Linda, as you may know, the Supreme Court recently, 969 00:52:15,132 --> 00:52:18,260 uh, handed down a, uh, decision on pornography. 970 00:52:19,094 --> 00:52:21,930 I don't think anybody should regulate anything. 971 00:52:22,014 --> 00:52:23,098 I think it should be, uh, 972 00:52:23,182 --> 00:52:24,141 I don't believe in censorship. 973 00:52:24,224 --> 00:52:25,809 I don't believe in anything that they are doing. 974 00:52:26,185 --> 00:52:28,145 But how far can you extend individual rights 975 00:52:28,228 --> 00:52:30,939 before you hit, uh, the state of anarchy? 976 00:52:31,523 --> 00:52:33,317 Uh, I really... I don't know. 977 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:34,902 Have you ever thought about that? 978 00:52:34,985 --> 00:52:37,613 No. I don't know what's the state of ana... anarchy. 979 00:52:37,696 --> 00:52:40,949 Well, it's... That's when everyone does precisely what he pleases 980 00:52:41,033 --> 00:52:43,285 and, uh, society has no rules. 981 00:52:43,369 --> 00:52:45,579 At that point, you've reached anarchy. 982 00:52:46,246 --> 00:52:48,290 Uh, I don't know about that, to be honest with you. 983 00:52:48,374 --> 00:52:49,833 I just don't believe in censorship. 984 00:52:49,917 --> 00:52:51,752 I don't... That's taking away your freedom. 985 00:52:51,835 --> 00:52:53,587 That's taking away your individual right 986 00:52:53,670 --> 00:52:55,214 to make up your own mind for things. 987 00:52:55,297 --> 00:52:58,050 The last person that started censorship was Adolf Hitler. 988 00:52:58,133 --> 00:52:59,551 And look what happened there. 989 00:53:03,555 --> 00:53:05,557 [Hopper] Meanwhile, the FBI was closing in 990 00:53:05,641 --> 00:53:07,768 on Deep Throat and its distribution. 991 00:53:07,851 --> 00:53:11,730 They pinpointed the Perainos' headquarters in Fort Lauderdale 992 00:53:11,814 --> 00:53:13,899 and placed them under surveillance. 993 00:53:18,612 --> 00:53:20,739 [Kelly] One day, I get a telephone call 994 00:53:20,989 --> 00:53:22,825 from a confidential source 995 00:53:24,284 --> 00:53:26,412 who will remain anonymous. 996 00:53:28,747 --> 00:53:29,998 And he says to me, uh: 997 00:53:30,082 --> 00:53:34,169 "We've got so much cash that we are having trouble 998 00:53:34,545 --> 00:53:37,047 physically moving about the office 999 00:53:37,214 --> 00:53:39,675 because the money is gettin' in the way." 1000 00:53:40,259 --> 00:53:42,553 I said, "How much you got?" He said, "I don't know. 1001 00:53:42,636 --> 00:53:44,888 We don't even count it anymore." 1002 00:53:45,472 --> 00:53:47,891 I said, "You don't count it?" He said, "No." 1003 00:53:47,975 --> 00:53:50,185 I said, "What do you do?" He said, "We weigh it." 1004 00:53:52,062 --> 00:53:53,522 [Hopper] To get around the law 1005 00:53:53,605 --> 00:53:55,774 the mob set up its own distribution system 1006 00:53:55,858 --> 00:53:57,359 of checkers and sweepers 1007 00:53:57,443 --> 00:53:59,820 who traveled the country delivering prints 1008 00:53:59,903 --> 00:54:01,989 and collecting the money from theaters. 1009 00:54:02,072 --> 00:54:05,701 At a certain time every day, the checker or the sweeper 1010 00:54:05,784 --> 00:54:09,037 would go to the manager of the particular theater, 1011 00:54:09,288 --> 00:54:13,083 and he would say, "Our take is 50%, 1012 00:54:13,167 --> 00:54:15,586 and we want it now, in cash. 1013 00:54:16,253 --> 00:54:18,630 Give us the money now, or else." 1014 00:54:20,757 --> 00:54:22,843 [Peter Manouse] I was on my way down to Nashville. 1015 00:54:22,968 --> 00:54:24,386 And the reason I went to Nashville 1016 00:54:24,470 --> 00:54:26,472 was I wanted to buy these Goo Goo candy bars. 1017 00:54:26,972 --> 00:54:29,224 ♪ Goo Goo, chew it, Taste it, sweet milk ♪ 1018 00:54:29,308 --> 00:54:31,059 [Manouse] I was gonna buy a bunch of them 1019 00:54:31,143 --> 00:54:32,394 [Manouse] I was gonna buy a bunch of them 1020 00:54:32,478 --> 00:54:33,812 and see if I could get it going. 1021 00:54:33,896 --> 00:54:35,939 Well, on Saturday night, I decided I'd just go out. 1022 00:54:36,023 --> 00:54:37,983 And I met a couple of guys from New Jersey. 1023 00:54:38,066 --> 00:54:39,568 They were a couple of Italian guys. 1024 00:54:39,651 --> 00:54:40,694 I happen to be a Greek, 1025 00:54:40,777 --> 00:54:42,446 so Italians and Greeks are like cousins. 1026 00:54:42,613 --> 00:54:46,325 ♪ I gotta have a Goo Goo, How 'bout you? Goo Goo ♪ 1027 00:54:46,408 --> 00:54:48,243 They wanted me to go to work for 'em 1028 00:54:48,327 --> 00:54:50,954 uh, baby-sitting Deep Throat. 1029 00:54:51,371 --> 00:54:54,875 And they sent me over to the Lamar Theater in Memphis. 1030 00:54:55,334 --> 00:54:57,669 And that's where it all began. 1031 00:54:59,171 --> 00:55:02,299 And as people walked in, I would count 'em in. 1032 00:55:02,508 --> 00:55:04,468 Then I would go down through the theater crowd 1033 00:55:04,551 --> 00:55:07,804 and I would count the number of people in the theater with a little clicker. 1034 00:55:07,888 --> 00:55:09,806 You know, those little things. 1035 00:55:12,142 --> 00:55:14,811 A checker. That's what I was. 1036 00:55:16,104 --> 00:55:18,607 [Manouse] I, I was just a simple checker. I had no power. 1037 00:55:18,690 --> 00:55:20,776 I had no rank, nothing. I was just an employee. 1038 00:55:22,736 --> 00:55:24,363 Nobody was hurt. 1039 00:55:24,738 --> 00:55:26,949 And, uh, the only ones that got hurt 1040 00:55:27,032 --> 00:55:30,536 was, uh, one of our checkers in New Orleans. 1041 00:55:30,619 --> 00:55:33,205 Uh, he had $60,000 and he disappeared. 1042 00:55:33,288 --> 00:55:36,458 The money disappeared and they found his body in the back of a pickup truck. 1043 00:55:38,835 --> 00:55:41,713 [Shipley] A theater manager refused to pay. 1044 00:55:43,298 --> 00:55:46,969 And the next thing I know, I heard the theater burned down. 1045 00:55:47,177 --> 00:55:49,846 I'm not saying they would do somethin'. 1046 00:55:49,930 --> 00:55:52,474 But I did have a Colt .45 with the hammer back 1047 00:55:52,558 --> 00:55:53,600 in my belt. 1048 00:55:55,143 --> 00:55:58,438 They had people that... That would do things. 1049 00:55:59,273 --> 00:56:02,359 Was it any kind of, uh, an organized crime? 1050 00:56:02,442 --> 00:56:04,278 Well, is every Italian 1051 00:56:04,903 --> 00:56:06,488 [stammers] a criminal? 1052 00:56:06,572 --> 00:56:09,199 Is every Italian a gangster? I don't think so. 1053 00:56:09,283 --> 00:56:12,160 You know, some Italians have actually opened up Italian restaurants 1054 00:56:12,244 --> 00:56:14,997 [laughing] and done very well with them. 1055 00:56:16,832 --> 00:56:19,042 [laughing] and done very well with them. 1056 00:56:19,126 --> 00:56:21,128 They won't threaten you in any way. 1057 00:56:21,211 --> 00:56:23,630 But if you do something dishonest, 1058 00:56:24,548 --> 00:56:25,716 most of the times, 1059 00:56:25,799 --> 00:56:28,343 they don't give you a second chance. 1060 00:56:31,263 --> 00:56:33,557 [interviewer] So why did you walk away from it yourself? 1061 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,809 Because I was told to. 1062 00:56:36,977 --> 00:56:39,688 Rather, my wife was told that I should... 1063 00:56:40,897 --> 00:56:42,024 Rather, my wife was told that I should... 1064 00:56:45,319 --> 00:56:47,779 And no money in the world is worth 1065 00:56:47,863 --> 00:56:49,364 just worrying about something. 1066 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:53,660 [door opening] 1067 00:56:54,119 --> 00:56:56,330 -That's my wife. -[Terry] Artie, again? 1068 00:56:56,747 --> 00:56:57,789 [Sommer] Now, Terry. 1069 00:56:57,873 --> 00:56:59,041 Are you enjoying this? 1070 00:56:59,124 --> 00:57:00,667 [footsteps approaching] 1071 00:57:00,751 --> 00:57:03,128 Damn it. You're some kind of nut. 1072 00:57:04,254 --> 00:57:07,466 [Sommer] Okay. They're finished, Terry, all right? 1073 00:57:14,973 --> 00:57:18,518 [Hopper] Finally, after three years of FBI investigation, 1074 00:57:18,602 --> 00:57:23,065 the government launched one of the most ambitious obscenity trials ever mounted. 1075 00:57:23,148 --> 00:57:26,401 Designed to nail Deep Throat and all pornographic films 1076 00:57:26,485 --> 00:57:27,986 once and for all. 1077 00:57:30,489 --> 00:57:33,825 [Bruce Kramer] I think this case was a case, a prosecution 1078 00:57:33,992 --> 00:57:36,828 that was directed, orchestrated, 1079 00:57:37,496 --> 00:57:39,247 uh, from Washington, D.C. 1080 00:57:41,208 --> 00:57:45,796 [Hopper] All told, 117 people were charged with conspiracy: 1081 00:57:46,171 --> 00:57:48,799 from the distributor to the projectionist. 1082 00:57:48,882 --> 00:57:50,384 And one man, 1083 00:57:50,467 --> 00:57:53,512 the government intended to make an example of. 1084 00:57:54,596 --> 00:57:56,431 The director had immunity. 1085 00:57:56,765 --> 00:57:58,266 The star had immunity, 1086 00:57:58,475 --> 00:58:00,268 but the actor did not. 1087 00:58:06,817 --> 00:58:09,403 The theory was, if you prosecuted the star 1088 00:58:09,486 --> 00:58:12,155 then nobody would ever wanna make a film like this. 1089 00:58:12,239 --> 00:58:14,533 And you could drive the industry out of business. 1090 00:58:15,534 --> 00:58:19,830 [Kramer] Harry Reems was paid $250 to appear in Deep Throat. 1091 00:58:20,247 --> 00:58:22,040 He had no control, 1092 00:58:22,332 --> 00:58:24,584 no say, no input 1093 00:58:25,168 --> 00:58:28,505 with what the final version of this film was gonna be 1094 00:58:28,588 --> 00:58:31,174 or whether it was gonna be distributed interstate, 1095 00:58:31,258 --> 00:58:33,468 intrastate, intergalactic. 1096 00:58:33,552 --> 00:58:34,928 It's impressive, for the first time 1097 00:58:35,012 --> 00:58:36,430 in the history of the United States 1098 00:58:36,513 --> 00:58:38,682 an artist has ever been brought to trial by the government. 1099 00:58:40,517 --> 00:58:42,561 [reporter] All of the trials have been prosecuted 1100 00:58:42,644 --> 00:58:45,313 by a young assistant US attorney named Larry Parrish, 1101 00:58:45,397 --> 00:58:48,191 a lay Protestant preacher who has been quoted as saying 1102 00:58:48,275 --> 00:58:51,653 he'd rather get smut off the streets of Memphis than dope. 1103 00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,115 Larry Parrish is the... About one of the finest people 1104 00:58:55,198 --> 00:58:56,950 I've ever known in my entire life. 1105 00:58:58,452 --> 00:58:59,578 [Kelly] Fine guy. 1106 00:58:59,661 --> 00:59:01,997 And on top of that he's, uh, he's movie star quality. 1107 00:59:02,998 --> 00:59:04,332 [Damiano] First of all, he was very tall. 1108 00:59:05,292 --> 00:59:07,252 And I hate tall people. 1109 00:59:07,919 --> 00:59:09,212 Uh... 1110 00:59:09,296 --> 00:59:11,089 But he was also very arrogant. 1111 00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,342 If you're gonna dance, you need to pay the piper. 1112 00:59:14,426 --> 00:59:16,261 And, uh, I'm the piper. 1113 00:59:16,344 --> 00:59:18,680 You've got to be accountable under the law. 1114 00:59:18,930 --> 00:59:20,974 It was like when some people know 1115 00:59:21,058 --> 00:59:23,769 that they have the answer to everything 1116 00:59:24,019 --> 00:59:27,689 and everybody else is, is, is totally wrong. 1117 00:59:28,523 --> 00:59:32,277 It was purely and simply a matter of law enforcement. 1118 00:59:32,861 --> 00:59:36,031 And I guess if there was any passion in it for me, 1119 00:59:36,114 --> 00:59:37,949 it was that, um, 1120 00:59:38,992 --> 00:59:42,329 these are laws that had not been enforced. 1121 00:59:42,746 --> 00:59:44,581 And I knew of no reason 1122 00:59:44,664 --> 00:59:46,708 why they should not be enforced. 1123 00:59:46,917 --> 00:59:48,251 [Hopper] To make his case, 1124 00:59:48,335 --> 00:59:51,171 Larry Parrish invoked a highly unusual use 1125 00:59:51,254 --> 00:59:52,798 of the conspiracy laws. 1126 00:59:53,006 --> 00:59:55,967 The government explained their conspiracy theory 1127 00:59:56,051 --> 00:59:57,302 in the terms of a train. 1128 00:59:57,928 --> 00:59:59,304 [blows whistle] 1129 01:00:00,222 --> 01:00:03,058 [Kramer] That if the train starts in Los Angeles 1130 01:00:03,141 --> 01:00:05,393 and you get on in Los Angeles, 1131 01:00:05,685 --> 01:00:07,771 and you ride to Denver and get off, 1132 01:00:07,854 --> 01:00:10,357 but the train continues on to Memphis, 1133 01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,819 you are legally responsible for the entire journey. 1134 01:00:14,903 --> 01:00:17,656 And if you're responsible for everything that takes place, 1135 01:00:17,739 --> 01:00:19,324 you have unlimited liability. 1136 01:00:19,658 --> 01:00:23,411 This was a very creative use of the law of conspiracy 1137 01:00:23,495 --> 01:00:26,706 and prosecutors should never be creative. 1138 01:00:26,832 --> 01:00:28,458 That's not their job. 1139 01:00:28,834 --> 01:00:30,919 If my mother had been involved, 1140 01:00:31,002 --> 01:00:32,254 she would have been indicted. 1141 01:00:32,337 --> 01:00:35,257 I will promise you that. Uh, she wasn't. 1142 01:00:35,757 --> 01:00:39,010 When you tell artists, bad artists or good artists, 1143 01:00:39,094 --> 01:00:41,471 that they cannot experiment in certain avenues, 1144 01:00:41,555 --> 01:00:44,015 you are taking away the basic freedoms of every American. 1145 01:00:44,516 --> 01:00:46,893 For some reason, though, 1146 01:00:46,977 --> 01:00:50,397 it was as if he is involved in art. 1147 01:00:50,939 --> 01:00:53,692 And so art is protected. 1148 01:00:53,984 --> 01:00:56,778 Well, not by the definition of the Supreme Court. 1149 01:00:57,028 --> 01:00:59,531 [Reems] Maybe I'm disgusting in some peoples' eyes. 1150 01:00:59,614 --> 01:01:01,283 Maybe others are bored by me. 1151 01:01:01,366 --> 01:01:03,743 But there are no laws against acting in these films. 1152 01:01:04,369 --> 01:01:07,080 [Parrish] And the actors and the actresses, 1153 01:01:07,414 --> 01:01:09,416 I really hesitate to call them that. 1154 01:01:10,917 --> 01:01:13,712 They are prostitutes and whoremongers 1155 01:01:14,045 --> 01:01:15,964 [laughing] on the screen. 1156 01:01:16,047 --> 01:01:18,550 I'm sorry, that's just all they are. 1157 01:01:19,009 --> 01:01:20,427 And, uh... 1158 01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:23,388 Uh, they... 1159 01:01:25,473 --> 01:01:28,560 They don't even believe that there is any law. 1160 01:01:28,643 --> 01:01:32,647 How do you communicate to those persons 1161 01:01:32,856 --> 01:01:34,941 that this is against the law? 1162 01:01:35,066 --> 01:01:36,651 I face five years in jail. 1163 01:01:36,735 --> 01:01:40,322 Do I belong in jail for five years for acting in Deep Throat, 1164 01:01:40,405 --> 01:01:42,157 which is not in violation of the law? 1165 01:01:49,664 --> 01:01:51,333 [Kramer] If seeing this motion picture 1166 01:01:51,416 --> 01:01:53,335 as many times as Larry Parrish has seen it 1167 01:01:53,418 --> 01:01:56,254 has not corrupted him, or made him into a sex addict, 1168 01:01:56,338 --> 01:01:58,798 than I think that's, uh, proof positive 1169 01:01:58,882 --> 01:02:02,969 that these films do not have a deleterious effect on the human being. 1170 01:02:03,678 --> 01:02:04,888 I'm sitting here right now 1171 01:02:04,971 --> 01:02:07,224 trying to draw some images up from Deep Throat. 1172 01:02:07,307 --> 01:02:09,309 To be honest about it, uh, 1173 01:02:10,769 --> 01:02:13,188 do I feel that I'm worse off because of it? 1174 01:02:13,271 --> 01:02:14,272 Yes, I do. 1175 01:02:15,398 --> 01:02:18,401 Uh, I can't get images out of my mind 1176 01:02:18,485 --> 01:02:19,819 that I have seen. 1177 01:02:24,282 --> 01:02:26,534 I have told people I'm not a eunuch. 1178 01:02:26,618 --> 01:02:30,247 I'm, I'm a regular, red-blooded American male. 1179 01:02:32,165 --> 01:02:33,541 And, uh, 1180 01:02:33,625 --> 01:02:35,752 and those images I wish were not there. 1181 01:02:37,712 --> 01:02:39,756 [Kramer] We had a lot of eye contact with the jury. 1182 01:02:39,839 --> 01:02:43,009 I think the jury was very sympathetic to Harry. 1183 01:02:44,552 --> 01:02:46,972 And there was a palpable change 1184 01:02:47,264 --> 01:02:49,140 in the jury's reaction 1185 01:02:49,599 --> 01:02:52,727 to Harry after seeing him in the film. 1186 01:02:53,144 --> 01:02:56,231 [Parrish] That was one of the amusing times in the trial. 1187 01:02:56,314 --> 01:02:57,983 He sat over in a, uh, 1188 01:02:58,066 --> 01:03:00,485 in a corner by himself, sort of hoverin' 1189 01:03:00,944 --> 01:03:02,779 and wouldn't look at the jurors, 1190 01:03:02,862 --> 01:03:04,489 and they were all staring at him. 1191 01:03:07,951 --> 01:03:09,077 [sighs] 1192 01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:12,580 I felt as though my life was being taken away from me. 1193 01:03:12,664 --> 01:03:15,625 And that I was being depicted, characterized 1194 01:03:16,293 --> 01:03:18,086 as something evil, a demon. 1195 01:03:25,677 --> 01:03:27,345 [Hopper] After a two-month trial, 1196 01:03:27,429 --> 01:03:29,556 the jury took just five hours 1197 01:03:29,639 --> 01:03:32,434 to return a unanimously guilty verdict. 1198 01:03:32,517 --> 01:03:34,352 [Roy Cohn] The substance of what you say, 1199 01:03:34,436 --> 01:03:37,063 in effect, is you were the little man who wasn't there. 1200 01:03:37,147 --> 01:03:38,523 But the fact of the matter is, 1201 01:03:38,606 --> 01:03:40,692 you deliberately and knowingly 1202 01:03:40,775 --> 01:03:42,402 committed a long series 1203 01:03:42,485 --> 01:03:45,196 of immoral, revolting, obscene acts. 1204 01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,282 You might have found it obscene, and immoral, 1205 01:03:47,365 --> 01:03:48,700 and distasteful, and disgusting. 1206 01:03:48,783 --> 01:03:49,701 Others don't. 1207 01:03:49,784 --> 01:03:53,038 The acts you performed on film are acts that would be crimes 1208 01:03:53,121 --> 01:03:55,623 if they were performed on the street or someplace else. 1209 01:03:55,707 --> 01:03:58,335 No. They are wonderful celebrations of life. 1210 01:03:58,418 --> 01:03:59,711 They're called sex, Mr. Cohn. 1211 01:03:59,794 --> 01:04:02,047 You just can't cloak yourself with the American flag 1212 01:04:02,130 --> 01:04:03,506 because you don't fit the image. 1213 01:04:03,590 --> 01:04:07,052 You talk as though the Bill of Rights was created just for you. 1214 01:04:15,477 --> 01:04:17,812 For the first time in US history, 1215 01:04:17,896 --> 01:04:21,358 an actor had been convicted for merely playing a part. 1216 01:04:21,691 --> 01:04:24,194 And Harry Reems faced five years in jail. 1217 01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,489 [Tony Bill] It did not bode well for the future 1218 01:04:27,572 --> 01:04:30,033 of any kind of aesthetic or artistic expression 1219 01:04:30,116 --> 01:04:32,077 in this country, in any of the arts, 1220 01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,120 much less this poor guy 1221 01:04:34,287 --> 01:04:38,041 who, you know, suddenly finds himself being made a scapegoat. 1222 01:04:38,333 --> 01:04:42,879 All in the interest of a, basically, moral crusade. 1223 01:04:46,966 --> 01:04:49,052 [Dershowitz] What was behind the case in Memphis 1224 01:04:49,135 --> 01:04:51,304 was the religious right. 1225 01:04:51,388 --> 01:04:54,265 This is the first real incarnation 1226 01:04:54,349 --> 01:04:58,520 of trying to apply their conception of morality 1227 01:04:59,354 --> 01:05:00,647 to all of America. 1228 01:05:04,526 --> 01:05:05,568 [Hopper] In response, 1229 01:05:05,652 --> 01:05:08,780 Hollywood was quick to mobilize and defend Harry Reems, 1230 01:05:08,863 --> 01:05:12,283 positioning itself as an opposing cultural force. 1231 01:05:12,367 --> 01:05:13,743 [all chattering] 1232 01:05:13,993 --> 01:05:15,537 [reporter] Professionals in the arts 1233 01:05:15,620 --> 01:05:17,872 may not find Deep Throat, as such, 1234 01:05:17,956 --> 01:05:20,291 a piece of art worth defending. 1235 01:05:20,375 --> 01:05:21,793 But they are worried about 1236 01:05:21,876 --> 01:05:23,878 the threat of being arrested later on 1237 01:05:23,962 --> 01:05:26,548 for what they write or act in today. 1238 01:05:26,714 --> 01:05:28,133 It's a censorship issue. 1239 01:05:28,425 --> 01:05:32,345 My overall concern is the basic, uh, infringement 1240 01:05:32,429 --> 01:05:34,097 on the rights of the First Amendment. 1241 01:05:34,180 --> 01:05:36,433 That's probably why I came to his defense, 1242 01:05:36,516 --> 01:05:39,144 knowing that Beatty and Nicholson did. 1243 01:05:40,895 --> 01:05:43,440 That's how I make all my decisions. 1244 01:05:45,108 --> 01:05:47,944 I said, "Alan, am, am, am I gonna be convicted? 1245 01:05:48,027 --> 01:05:49,404 "Am I going to do prison time?" 1246 01:05:49,487 --> 01:05:51,406 And his response was: 1247 01:05:53,950 --> 01:05:55,577 "If the Republicans are reelected, 1248 01:05:55,660 --> 01:05:57,454 you're going to jail. 1249 01:05:57,996 --> 01:06:01,458 If the Democrats are elected, you're going to be set free." 1250 01:06:05,044 --> 01:06:07,255 [Hopper] While Harry fought for his freedom, 1251 01:06:07,338 --> 01:06:10,008 the architect of the moral crusade in the first place 1252 01:06:10,091 --> 01:06:12,469 was no longer in office to savor his triumph. 1253 01:06:13,178 --> 01:06:16,556 I shall resign the Presidency effective at noon tomorrow. 1254 01:06:16,890 --> 01:06:19,684 ["More More More" by Andrea True playing] 1255 01:06:19,767 --> 01:06:22,979 ["More More More" by Andrea True playing] 1256 01:06:23,146 --> 01:06:25,648 the nickname for the secret Watergate source. 1257 01:06:26,357 --> 01:06:28,651 [Bernstein] There's an expression in journalism 1258 01:06:28,735 --> 01:06:30,778 called "deep background" which means that 1259 01:06:30,862 --> 01:06:34,032 called "deep background" which means that 1260 01:06:34,115 --> 01:06:37,327 with any kind of hint of attribution. 1261 01:06:38,161 --> 01:06:41,289 Deep Throat, deep background. You know, it's sort of a... 1262 01:06:41,372 --> 01:06:43,416 ♪ But if you want to know How I really feel ♪ 1263 01:06:43,500 --> 01:06:47,212 [Hopper] Its national nightmare over, the nation got down. 1264 01:06:47,879 --> 01:06:50,006 ♪ Get the action goin' ♪ 1265 01:06:52,509 --> 01:06:54,594 ♪ How do you like it? How do you like it? ♪ 1266 01:06:54,677 --> 01:06:56,930 The time was right for a porno star to be a pop star. 1267 01:06:57,013 --> 01:06:58,139 Who would have ever thought? 1268 01:06:58,306 --> 01:06:59,807 ♪ How do you like it? ♪ 1269 01:06:59,891 --> 01:07:01,601 [True] More, more, more. 1270 01:07:01,684 --> 01:07:03,311 How do you like it, how do you like it? 1271 01:07:03,394 --> 01:07:04,771 How do you like it, how do you like it? 1272 01:07:04,854 --> 01:07:06,481 That's it. That's all of it. 1273 01:07:06,564 --> 01:07:09,484 It gets repeated and repeated and repeated. 1274 01:07:11,277 --> 01:07:12,362 It means nothing. 1275 01:07:12,529 --> 01:07:15,198 ["Keep It Coming Love" by K.C. and The Sunshine Band playing] 1276 01:07:15,281 --> 01:07:17,492 ♪ Keep it coming, love ♪ 1277 01:07:17,575 --> 01:07:19,744 ♪ Don't stop it now Don't stop it, no ♪ 1278 01:07:19,827 --> 01:07:21,663 ♪ Don't stop it now Don't stop ♪ 1279 01:07:21,746 --> 01:07:26,042 ♪ Keep it coming, love Keep it coming, love ♪ 1280 01:07:26,334 --> 01:07:28,503 ♪ Don't stop it now Don't stop it, no ♪ 1281 01:07:28,586 --> 01:07:30,630 ♪ Don't stop it now Don't stop it ♪ 1282 01:07:30,713 --> 01:07:34,717 ♪ Don't let your well run dry ♪ 1283 01:07:35,009 --> 01:07:36,928 ♪ Don't stop it now ♪ 1284 01:07:38,805 --> 01:07:40,056 ♪ Keep it coming, love ♪ 1285 01:07:40,139 --> 01:07:41,307 [Walter Cronkite] A year ago, 1286 01:07:41,391 --> 01:07:44,018 a Memphis federal court convicted actor Harry Reems 1287 01:07:44,102 --> 01:07:46,521 on obscenity charges in connection with his role 1288 01:07:46,604 --> 01:07:48,273 in the film Deep Throat. 1289 01:07:48,356 --> 01:07:51,651 Today, a US District Judge in Memphis overturned that conviction, 1290 01:07:51,734 --> 01:07:54,320 saying that the actor's activities took place before 1291 01:07:54,404 --> 01:07:57,282 the 1973 Supreme Court obscenity ruling. 1292 01:07:58,783 --> 01:08:02,370 [Reems] Now that my name was-- Was pretty recognizable, 1293 01:08:02,662 --> 01:08:03,871 I moved to LA, 1294 01:08:04,163 --> 01:08:06,916 thinking that certainly somebody would come along and say: 1295 01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:08,042 "Well, there's a sellable name." 1296 01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,879 Allan Carr had produced and directed films, 1297 01:08:11,963 --> 01:08:13,506 uh, for Paramount. 1298 01:08:13,590 --> 01:08:15,049 And he called me one day and said, 1299 01:08:15,133 --> 01:08:17,176 "I'd like you to play the role 1300 01:08:17,302 --> 01:08:20,430 of the high school coach in the movie Grease." 1301 01:08:20,763 --> 01:08:23,266 I was excited that I was given an opportunity. 1302 01:08:23,349 --> 01:08:24,726 Then about two or three weeks 1303 01:08:24,809 --> 01:08:27,312 before principal photography began, 1304 01:08:27,437 --> 01:08:30,106 Paramount Pictures removed me from the cast. 1305 01:08:30,189 --> 01:08:33,067 That they didn't feel as though I belonged 1306 01:08:33,901 --> 01:08:36,529 That they didn't feel as though I belonged 1307 01:08:36,613 --> 01:08:38,531 And the lights went on for me. 1308 01:08:39,157 --> 01:08:41,034 I had branded myself 1309 01:08:41,159 --> 01:08:43,328 and, uh, given myself a certain stigma. 1310 01:08:44,746 --> 01:08:46,914 I just started to drink every night, 1311 01:08:47,165 --> 01:08:48,583 looking for an escape, 1312 01:08:48,666 --> 01:08:51,753 looking for a little bit of lightheartedness. 1313 01:08:51,836 --> 01:08:53,212 And, you know, 1314 01:08:53,296 --> 01:08:57,300 it just led me into a terrible, terrible disease 1315 01:08:57,383 --> 01:08:59,510 of alcoholism and drug addiction. 1316 01:09:00,094 --> 01:09:01,971 What are you doin'? 1317 01:09:02,138 --> 01:09:04,807 An antidote. I'm mixing an antidote. 1318 01:09:04,974 --> 01:09:06,893 [Reems] I remember the last movies I was on, 1319 01:09:06,976 --> 01:09:08,519 I couldn't even walk. 1320 01:09:08,603 --> 01:09:10,938 I mean, literally, they had to carry me to a seat 1321 01:09:11,022 --> 01:09:14,067 and I'd shoot the whole motion picture sitting in a seat, 1322 01:09:14,150 --> 01:09:16,152 delivering lines, drunk. 1323 01:09:19,155 --> 01:09:21,699 I was so drunk and so drugged up at the time 1324 01:09:21,783 --> 01:09:24,619 that I couldn't do sex scenes. 1325 01:09:25,078 --> 01:09:26,746 Oh, my head. 1326 01:09:26,829 --> 01:09:28,790 They'd carry me off the set 1327 01:09:28,956 --> 01:09:32,418 and somebody would get me home and I'd drink some more 1328 01:09:32,502 --> 01:09:35,296 and they'd pick me up and take me back the next day. 1329 01:09:35,380 --> 01:09:37,465 It's all a blur. It's all a blur. 1330 01:09:40,968 --> 01:09:42,887 I lost my home. 1331 01:09:42,970 --> 01:09:44,681 I lost my career. 1332 01:09:45,348 --> 01:09:47,183 I lost my friends, 1333 01:09:48,768 --> 01:09:50,436 and ended up, literally, 1334 01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,690 panhandling in the streets on Sunset Boulevard. 1335 01:09:55,566 --> 01:09:57,151 [Hopper] Harry's personal defeat 1336 01:09:57,235 --> 01:09:59,612 in the face of his First Amendment triumph 1337 01:09:59,696 --> 01:10:02,365 reflected the way society was changing. 1338 01:10:06,828 --> 01:10:08,246 [woman] Get lost! 1339 01:10:08,329 --> 01:10:10,289 [all] Freedom! Freedom! 1340 01:10:10,373 --> 01:10:12,375 [Paglia] Culture took a reactionary turn 1341 01:10:12,458 --> 01:10:14,585 after what seemed like we were on, uh, heading 1342 01:10:14,669 --> 01:10:17,422 toward a climax of the sexual revolution 1343 01:10:17,505 --> 01:10:20,091 that we never actually, uh, attained. 1344 01:10:20,341 --> 01:10:22,260 [all chanting] 1345 01:10:22,343 --> 01:10:24,387 [Dershowitz] In the 1970s, 1346 01:10:24,470 --> 01:10:27,682 the worst censors in the country 1347 01:10:28,057 --> 01:10:30,435 suddenly became the feminists. 1348 01:10:30,601 --> 01:10:32,353 [all shouting] 1349 01:10:32,437 --> 01:10:34,230 [woman 1] The so-called sexual revolution 1350 01:10:34,313 --> 01:10:37,775 in this country has not been liberating for women. 1351 01:10:37,859 --> 01:10:40,820 [woman 2] It's the way that pornography invades the popular culture... 1352 01:10:40,903 --> 01:10:43,531 [woman 3] It's becoming increasingly socially acceptable. 1353 01:10:43,781 --> 01:10:45,074 [all chattering] 1354 01:10:45,158 --> 01:10:47,285 [Susan Brownmiller] The role that you have selected for women 1355 01:10:47,368 --> 01:10:48,411 is degrading to women 1356 01:10:48,494 --> 01:10:50,496 because you choose to see women as sex objects 1357 01:10:50,580 --> 01:10:51,873 not as full human beings. 1358 01:10:51,956 --> 01:10:53,666 -Well, obviously-- -Hold on. The day that-- 1359 01:10:53,750 --> 01:10:54,917 [audience applauding] 1360 01:10:55,001 --> 01:10:56,836 -Obviously-- -I haven't finished. 1361 01:10:56,919 --> 01:10:58,921 The day that you are willing to come out here 1362 01:10:59,088 --> 01:11:01,424 with a cottontail attached to your rear end... 1363 01:11:01,507 --> 01:11:03,468 [audience applauding] 1364 01:11:04,218 --> 01:11:07,013 [Hefner] When the women's movement began to attack sex in general 1365 01:11:07,096 --> 01:11:08,181 and men in general, 1366 01:11:08,264 --> 01:11:09,307 [laughs] I was-- 1367 01:11:09,390 --> 01:11:10,725 I was at a loss for words 1368 01:11:10,808 --> 01:11:13,436 because these were our partners 1369 01:11:13,519 --> 01:11:15,855 in a revolution to really change 1370 01:11:15,938 --> 01:11:17,982 uh, sexual values. 1371 01:11:18,191 --> 01:11:19,358 [Hefner] I'm more in sympathy 1372 01:11:19,442 --> 01:11:21,486 than perhaps, uh, you know, the girls realize-- 1373 01:11:21,569 --> 01:11:22,570 [Brownmiller] Women. 1374 01:11:22,653 --> 01:11:23,696 I'm sorry. 1375 01:11:23,780 --> 01:11:24,822 Yes. I'm 35. 1376 01:11:24,906 --> 01:11:26,282 [Hefner] Than the ladies realize. 1377 01:11:26,365 --> 01:11:28,367 I use "girls" referring to women of all ages. 1378 01:11:28,451 --> 01:11:29,994 [Brownmiller] You should stop. 1379 01:11:30,077 --> 01:11:32,079 If you want to be called a boy... 1380 01:11:32,163 --> 01:11:34,207 [Hefner] I see. Okay. Um... 1381 01:11:34,290 --> 01:11:36,292 [audience laughing] 1382 01:11:37,293 --> 01:11:40,171 The idea was to convince people 1383 01:11:40,922 --> 01:11:45,009 that there were good, sound, feminist, humanitarian reasons 1384 01:11:45,092 --> 01:11:47,136 to be against pornography. 1385 01:11:48,638 --> 01:11:51,432 [Hopper] Women Against Pornography found a surprising ally 1386 01:11:51,516 --> 01:11:54,936 in America's most famous porn star: Linda Lovelace, 1387 01:11:55,102 --> 01:11:56,604 who had retired from the spotlight 1388 01:11:56,687 --> 01:11:58,064 and was now a mother and housewife. 1389 01:12:01,943 --> 01:12:03,736 [Donahue] Linda Lovelace is, uh, here. 1390 01:12:03,903 --> 01:12:05,738 The book is titled, uh, Ordeal. 1391 01:12:05,822 --> 01:12:07,949 And I'll tell you, this book is a very, uh, 1392 01:12:08,032 --> 01:12:10,201 explicit recounting of what happened to you. 1393 01:12:10,284 --> 01:12:12,578 I felt it was important to let 1394 01:12:12,662 --> 01:12:14,288 everything out that happened to me. 1395 01:12:14,413 --> 01:12:16,874 I literally became a prisoner of Mr. Traynor's. 1396 01:12:17,041 --> 01:12:19,001 I wasn't permitted to go to the bathroom by myself. 1397 01:12:19,335 --> 01:12:21,170 I was never allowed out of his eyesight. 1398 01:12:21,546 --> 01:12:23,756 If he took a shower, I had to take a shower with him. 1399 01:12:24,048 --> 01:12:27,426 If I did have any kind of communication with my friends or my family, 1400 01:12:27,510 --> 01:12:29,303 he was on the extension with a .45 1401 01:12:29,387 --> 01:12:31,973 or an M16 semi-automatic machine gun pointed at me. 1402 01:12:32,306 --> 01:12:35,852 And there are those who say you can see the bruises on her in the film. 1403 01:12:37,812 --> 01:12:41,065 You tell me if the bruises are visible in the film. 1404 01:12:41,315 --> 01:12:44,193 [Tom Snyder] How did Linda Lovelace and Gloria Steinem join forces? 1405 01:12:44,277 --> 01:12:45,820 How did the two of you get together? 1406 01:12:45,903 --> 01:12:48,739 [Gloria Steinem] I saw Linda on the Phil Donahue Show. 1407 01:12:48,823 --> 01:12:52,618 And she was being questioned by Phil, 1408 01:12:52,702 --> 01:12:55,413 who I think is usually a more sensitive questioner 1409 01:12:55,496 --> 01:12:57,164 than he was this time, 1410 01:12:57,248 --> 01:13:00,543 uh, and by the audience, with enormous disbelief. 1411 01:13:00,626 --> 01:13:02,712 And I still find it very hard to believe 1412 01:13:02,795 --> 01:13:04,797 that you have become a changed person. 1413 01:13:04,922 --> 01:13:07,216 I had always heard that to be hypnotized, you had to be willing. 1414 01:13:07,508 --> 01:13:10,011 Is there something about the way you were raised, in your view, 1415 01:13:10,094 --> 01:13:11,596 that made you vulnerable to this? 1416 01:13:11,679 --> 01:13:14,098 And yet she was still being asked, 1417 01:13:14,181 --> 01:13:15,975 uh, what in her background 1418 01:13:16,058 --> 01:13:18,728 had led her to become essentially a hostage. 1419 01:13:18,978 --> 01:13:20,980 [Snyder] What did lead you to become a hostage, 1420 01:13:21,063 --> 01:13:22,940 if we can-- If we can now ask the question? 1421 01:13:23,024 --> 01:13:25,109 Does it go back beyond that to your childhood, 1422 01:13:25,192 --> 01:13:26,819 -that you were a susceptible person? -No. 1423 01:13:26,903 --> 01:13:30,531 See now what you're doing, you're doing what, what made me so angry. 1424 01:13:30,615 --> 01:13:34,076 You know, because we don't say to the hostages in Iran: 1425 01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:36,954 "What in your-- What in your background led you 1426 01:13:37,038 --> 01:13:38,664 -to, to be in that embassy?" -Yeah. 1427 01:13:38,748 --> 01:13:40,541 [Snyder] The situations are not nearly comparable, Gloria. 1428 01:13:40,625 --> 01:13:42,919 [Steinem] They are. It's force. 1429 01:13:43,586 --> 01:13:47,048 [Damiano] Linda needed somebody to tell her what to do. 1430 01:13:48,925 --> 01:13:51,344 And as long as she had somebody telling her what to do, 1431 01:13:51,427 --> 01:13:52,970 she, she was happy. 1432 01:13:53,054 --> 01:13:54,305 So when she made the movie, 1433 01:13:54,388 --> 01:13:55,848 she was happy making the movie. 1434 01:13:55,932 --> 01:13:57,350 After the movie, somebody said, 1435 01:13:57,433 --> 01:13:59,268 "Hey, you shouldn't have made that movie." 1436 01:13:59,352 --> 01:14:01,479 So she became unhappy about making the movie, 1437 01:14:01,562 --> 01:14:03,230 which wasn't true. 1438 01:14:03,314 --> 01:14:05,441 She was very happy about making the movie. 1439 01:14:11,072 --> 01:14:14,241 She was very happy about making the movie. 1440 01:14:14,325 --> 01:14:18,329 culminated with her testimony before the Meese Commission in 1986. 1441 01:14:18,746 --> 01:14:20,873 [Lovelace] My ordeal still goes on. 1442 01:14:20,957 --> 01:14:22,667 The film Deep Throat still shows 1443 01:14:22,750 --> 01:14:25,211 and virtually every time someone watches that movie, 1444 01:14:25,294 --> 01:14:27,672 they're watching me being raped. 1445 01:14:27,755 --> 01:14:29,840 [Hopper] Once again, the government had set out 1446 01:14:29,924 --> 01:14:31,842 to determine the effect of pornography. 1447 01:14:31,926 --> 01:14:34,845 This time, instead of relying on scientific data, 1448 01:14:34,929 --> 01:14:36,764 they relied on personal testimony 1449 01:14:36,847 --> 01:14:39,767 to prove that pornography was a social evil. 1450 01:14:40,935 --> 01:14:43,771 Well, the other day my 8-year-old son said to me: 1451 01:14:43,854 --> 01:14:46,148 "Mommy, if this country is so great, 1452 01:14:46,232 --> 01:14:48,150 how come people are still hurting you?" 1453 01:14:48,234 --> 01:14:49,777 [Jon Lewis] It's sort of like the Oprah Show. 1454 01:14:49,986 --> 01:14:53,114 It's, um, much more anecdotal. Much less professional. 1455 01:14:53,322 --> 01:14:56,450 So what Nixon starts in the '60s and '70s 1456 01:14:56,534 --> 01:14:58,035 by stacking the court, 1457 01:14:58,119 --> 01:15:00,121 Reagan finishes with the Meese report. 1458 01:15:00,204 --> 01:15:02,123 [reporter] In its most controversial finding, 1459 01:15:02,206 --> 01:15:03,416 the commission concludes 1460 01:15:03,499 --> 01:15:06,127 there is a relationship between violence and pornography. 1461 01:15:06,210 --> 01:15:08,879 The commission conducted no scientific studies. 1462 01:15:12,550 --> 01:15:14,969 [Hopper] Finally, after decades of struggle, 1463 01:15:15,052 --> 01:15:17,346 politics triumphed over pornography. 1464 01:15:17,430 --> 01:15:19,181 But the victory was hollow. 1465 01:15:19,265 --> 01:15:20,683 The success of Deep Throat 1466 01:15:20,766 --> 01:15:23,310 created enormous demand for hardcore, 1467 01:15:23,394 --> 01:15:25,479 that new technology could now satisfy 1468 01:15:25,563 --> 01:15:27,690 and avoid all regulation. 1469 01:15:28,107 --> 01:15:31,318 The phenomenal sales of home videocassette machines 1470 01:15:31,402 --> 01:15:33,362 have opened up a new market for erotic films. 1471 01:15:34,238 --> 01:15:37,033 It's a market that barely existed a couple of years ago. 1472 01:15:37,158 --> 01:15:40,036 But today, 30 to 50% of the tapes 1473 01:15:40,119 --> 01:15:42,288 available for play in these machines 1474 01:15:42,371 --> 01:15:44,290 are hardcore pornography. 1475 01:15:54,175 --> 01:15:57,595 Gerry Damiano, I think, really thought 1476 01:15:58,012 --> 01:16:01,807 that porn was going to merge into, kind of, Hollywood films. 1477 01:16:06,228 --> 01:16:08,397 [Annie Sprinkle] That porn movies 1478 01:16:08,481 --> 01:16:10,775 were gonna just get bigger and bigger budgets 1479 01:16:10,858 --> 01:16:13,652 and become more like feature films with hardcore sex. 1480 01:16:13,986 --> 01:16:17,782 Looked like it was going to burst itself into something, into an art form. 1481 01:16:17,865 --> 01:16:18,908 That didn't happen. 1482 01:16:19,075 --> 01:16:20,826 In fact, just the opposite happened. 1483 01:16:20,910 --> 01:16:24,080 Instead, it dwindled into a mediocre commodity. 1484 01:16:27,875 --> 01:16:30,836 [Damiano] With the advent of the video camera, 1485 01:16:30,961 --> 01:16:34,840 it got to be so easy to, to shoot X-rated video 1486 01:16:35,007 --> 01:16:37,093 that everybody could do it. 1487 01:16:37,176 --> 01:16:39,470 And then, the only ones that did it 1488 01:16:39,553 --> 01:16:42,223 were the ones that could do it cheaper and cheaper, 1489 01:16:42,306 --> 01:16:43,974 for less and less and less money. 1490 01:16:48,687 --> 01:16:50,898 [Damiano] They were-- They were nothing. 1491 01:16:50,981 --> 01:16:53,818 [Damiano] They were just one sex scene after another. 1492 01:16:53,901 --> 01:16:56,278 And it-- It sort of killed itself. 1493 01:17:00,449 --> 01:17:02,576 I couldn't make that kind of film. 1494 01:17:03,077 --> 01:17:05,371 Because there was-- There was no reason to. 1495 01:17:06,664 --> 01:17:09,166 It became a-- It became a factory. 1496 01:17:11,418 --> 01:17:13,003 It was over. 1497 01:17:13,087 --> 01:17:15,673 You didn't need filmmakers anymore. 1498 01:17:16,298 --> 01:17:18,217 [seagulls cawing] 1499 01:17:20,678 --> 01:17:22,888 [Hopper] As the adult industry grew, 1500 01:17:22,972 --> 01:17:25,015 it neither needed the rebel filmmaker 1501 01:17:25,099 --> 01:17:26,433 who had pioneered it 1502 01:17:26,517 --> 01:17:29,436 nor heeded the feminist protest against it. 1503 01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:31,647 So finding herself redundant, 1504 01:17:31,730 --> 01:17:34,775 Linda Lovelace moved with her family to Denver 1505 01:17:34,859 --> 01:17:37,069 to try and start a new life. 1506 01:17:37,778 --> 01:17:39,405 [Lindsay] Um, that's Mom at her desk. 1507 01:17:39,488 --> 01:17:41,532 Uh, she was the manager of the mailroom. 1508 01:17:43,951 --> 01:17:45,828 She was proud of her new desk. 1509 01:17:46,495 --> 01:17:47,663 Um... 1510 01:17:48,205 --> 01:17:50,082 They fired her when they found out about LL. 1511 01:17:50,666 --> 01:17:52,334 It happened a lot. 1512 01:17:57,381 --> 01:17:59,133 [Lovelace] You know, I've lost two jobs 1513 01:17:59,216 --> 01:18:01,343 because of the name Linda Lovelace. 1514 01:18:01,427 --> 01:18:04,138 And, uh, that, that's kind of... 1515 01:18:04,221 --> 01:18:05,347 That hurts. 1516 01:18:05,431 --> 01:18:07,808 You know, I was always defending myself 1517 01:18:07,892 --> 01:18:10,686 after, what, 25 years. 1518 01:18:11,103 --> 01:18:13,647 I don't have to do that too much anymore. 1519 01:18:13,731 --> 01:18:16,442 So I've decided it's time for me to do what I can 1520 01:18:16,525 --> 01:18:18,402 to earn an income 1521 01:18:19,069 --> 01:18:22,573 from, uh, the abuse that I went through from the name. 1522 01:18:23,574 --> 01:18:25,159 [Hopper] Broke and out of work, 1523 01:18:25,242 --> 01:18:28,621 Linda returned to the world she had once condemned. 1524 01:18:32,833 --> 01:18:35,294 [Lovelace] You know, I think it's kind of nice looking sexy 1525 01:18:35,377 --> 01:18:37,087 and still looking attractive at 51. 1526 01:18:37,171 --> 01:18:40,758 So, I didn't feel there was anything wrong with doing it. 1527 01:18:41,133 --> 01:18:42,843 Many feminists who have written, 1528 01:18:42,927 --> 01:18:44,220 you know, books... 1529 01:18:44,303 --> 01:18:46,931 And they're always using the name Linda Lovelace, and what happened to me. 1530 01:18:48,140 --> 01:18:50,684 I don't get any royalties from that. 1531 01:18:51,268 --> 01:18:54,021 And it doesn't take much to keep me happy. 1532 01:18:54,104 --> 01:18:56,273 You know? I get to be with my grandchildren, 1533 01:18:56,357 --> 01:18:58,984 around my children, and that's my joy. 1534 01:19:11,997 --> 01:19:14,792 She died penniless. Didn't have a dime. 1535 01:19:15,292 --> 01:19:16,418 She died penniless. Didn't have a dime. 1536 01:19:20,839 --> 01:19:22,132 And they all got rich. 1537 01:19:22,216 --> 01:19:23,676 They all got their hands in the pocket. 1538 01:19:29,431 --> 01:19:31,725 [woman] Fuck me harder, harder, harder! 1539 01:19:33,018 --> 01:19:35,646 [Mailer] Sex is a force, it's a force like lava. 1540 01:19:35,729 --> 01:19:38,691 And there haven't been too many successful engineering projects 1541 01:19:38,774 --> 01:19:40,359 about diverting the flow of lava. 1542 01:19:43,153 --> 01:19:46,031 Did I ever see the movie Deep Throat? No. 1543 01:19:46,115 --> 01:19:47,032 Did I ever see the movie Deep Throat? No. 1544 01:19:47,199 --> 01:19:50,077 No. That's with, um, that lady who died. 1545 01:19:50,327 --> 01:19:51,412 What's her name? 1546 01:19:51,870 --> 01:19:53,664 No, I have not seen it. 1547 01:19:59,169 --> 01:20:03,173 Deep Throat forged the sexual revolution 1548 01:20:04,508 --> 01:20:05,926 for good or bad. 1549 01:20:06,010 --> 01:20:07,594 [Waters] It led to the porno business. 1550 01:20:07,678 --> 01:20:12,016 Linda Lovelace turned it, and Deep Throat turned it, into an industry. 1551 01:20:12,182 --> 01:20:13,392 And like it or hate it, 1552 01:20:13,475 --> 01:20:15,436 that's what she's gonna be remembered for, forever. 1553 01:20:18,188 --> 01:20:21,650 [Bart] Porn really does have a yucky feel to it today. 1554 01:20:22,609 --> 01:20:26,071 Part of it, I think, that was lost is this, a certain innocence. 1555 01:20:26,155 --> 01:20:28,741 For that brief moment, porn was part of 1556 01:20:28,824 --> 01:20:30,993 discovery, curiosity, 1557 01:20:31,952 --> 01:20:33,162 change. 1558 01:20:34,038 --> 01:20:35,873 Today it's different. 1559 01:20:36,832 --> 01:20:37,875 [Jong] What happened 1560 01:20:37,958 --> 01:20:40,919 was that a very cynical pornography industry 1561 01:20:41,003 --> 01:20:43,922 came in on the heels of the First Amendment 1562 01:20:44,006 --> 01:20:47,217 and began coining money hand over fist. 1563 01:20:48,719 --> 01:20:51,680 [Mailer] So, it changed the nature of, of pornographic sex, 1564 01:20:51,764 --> 01:20:53,515 from art to money. 1565 01:20:55,934 --> 01:20:58,896 Money is not interested in the little alleys 1566 01:20:59,188 --> 01:21:01,357 of endeavor-- Of artistic endeavor. 1567 01:21:01,815 --> 01:21:03,942 It wants the main highway. 1568 01:21:08,864 --> 01:21:10,240 [cars honking] 1569 01:21:10,324 --> 01:21:12,409 [Cavett] It's a really dramatic fact 1570 01:21:12,493 --> 01:21:15,287 that we have gone from people staring up at a marquee 1571 01:21:15,371 --> 01:21:17,122 and thinking, "What can 'deep throat' mean? 1572 01:21:17,206 --> 01:21:18,290 Surely not what I'm thinking." 1573 01:21:19,166 --> 01:21:22,461 To kids who don't consider it sex. 1574 01:21:31,428 --> 01:21:34,765 [Charles Keating] They perverted it instead of improving it. 1575 01:21:36,141 --> 01:21:38,477 They took a beautiful thing that God gave mankind, 1576 01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:41,480 and they perverted it. And the results are obvious. 1577 01:21:41,563 --> 01:21:43,065 All you have to do is look around. 1578 01:21:49,571 --> 01:21:51,615 [Hopper] Deep Throat's legacy goes beyond 1579 01:21:51,698 --> 01:21:54,952 the sexually saturated culture that surrounds us today 1580 01:21:55,035 --> 01:21:57,955 and reaches back to the beginnings of a culture war 1581 01:21:58,038 --> 01:22:00,499 that divides us as never before. 1582 01:22:13,929 --> 01:22:16,765 [Hopper] Deep Throat was less about the joys of oral sex 1583 01:22:16,849 --> 01:22:20,018 than it was about the freedom to speak out against shame 1584 01:22:20,102 --> 01:22:21,687 and hypocrisy. 1585 01:22:22,438 --> 01:22:25,190 [reporter 1] The FCC has fined 169 stations to pay... 1586 01:22:25,274 --> 01:22:27,401 [reporter 2] Congress is also cracking down... 1587 01:22:27,484 --> 01:22:29,319 [reporter 3] Three Supreme Court justices 1588 01:22:29,403 --> 01:22:32,239 are expected to retire over the next four years. 1589 01:22:32,322 --> 01:22:34,491 [reporter 1] Each of these 169... 1590 01:22:34,575 --> 01:22:37,161 [reporters chattering] 1591 01:22:38,787 --> 01:22:42,541 [Parrish] Today, there are people in the Department of Justice 1592 01:22:42,624 --> 01:22:46,295 in high places, sympathetic with obscenity laws. 1593 01:22:47,087 --> 01:22:48,797 I think today 1594 01:22:49,631 --> 01:22:52,176 the climate is even more ripe 1595 01:22:52,468 --> 01:22:55,304 for vigorous enforcement of obscenity laws. 1596 01:22:57,139 --> 01:22:59,600 Now if we could get these terrorists to go away 1597 01:22:59,683 --> 01:23:00,767 [Parrish laughs] 1598 01:23:00,851 --> 01:23:03,145 and quit taking up so much time of the, 1599 01:23:03,228 --> 01:23:04,646 uh, of the Department of Justice... 1600 01:23:09,943 --> 01:23:11,028 All right? 1601 01:23:11,111 --> 01:23:12,237 [interviewer] Thank you. 1602 01:23:12,321 --> 01:23:13,614 You're welcome. 1603 01:23:16,533 --> 01:23:20,078 ["Reflections of My Life" by Marmalade playing] 1604 01:23:39,014 --> 01:23:43,018 ♪ The changing of sunlight ♪ 1605 01:23:44,353 --> 01:23:46,230 ♪ To moonlight ♪ 1606 01:23:46,313 --> 01:23:49,274 ♪ Reflections of my life ♪ 1607 01:23:51,485 --> 01:23:54,947 ♪ Oh, how they fill my eyes ♪ 1608 01:24:00,035 --> 01:24:01,995 ♪ The greetings ♪ 1609 01:24:02,579 --> 01:24:06,667 ♪ Of people in trouble ♪ 1610 01:24:07,167 --> 01:24:10,504 ♪ Reflections of my life ♪ 1611 01:24:12,256 --> 01:24:15,842 ♪ Oh, how they fill my mind ♪ 1612 01:24:20,305 --> 01:24:23,392 ♪ All my sorrows ♪ 1613 01:24:25,227 --> 01:24:28,605 ♪ Sad tomorrows ♪ 1614 01:24:30,399 --> 01:24:33,485 ♪ Take me back ♪ 1615 01:24:33,694 --> 01:24:36,697 ♪ To my own home ♪ 1616 01:24:40,576 --> 01:24:45,455 ♪ All my cryings All my cryings ♪ 1617 01:24:45,706 --> 01:24:49,543 ♪ Feel I'm dying, dying ♪ 1618 01:24:50,752 --> 01:24:53,672 ♪ Take me back ♪ 1619 01:24:53,964 --> 01:24:56,800 ♪ To my own home ♪ 1620 01:25:00,762 --> 01:25:04,224 ♪ All my sorrows ♪ 1621 01:25:05,601 --> 01:25:08,770 ♪ Sad tomorrows ♪ 1622 01:25:09,396 --> 01:25:10,606 [Sommer] To this day, 1623 01:25:10,689 --> 01:25:12,858 people ask me to see Deep Throat. 1624 01:25:12,941 --> 01:25:14,776 And they all, you know... 1625 01:25:14,860 --> 01:25:16,695 When they refer to Artie, you know, 1626 01:25:16,778 --> 01:25:18,697 he has a deep throat, so. 1627 01:25:19,114 --> 01:25:21,867 They say, "You know the guy with the deep throat, you know? 1628 01:25:21,950 --> 01:25:24,286 "He's the one that did Deep Throat." [chuck] 1629 01:25:24,995 --> 01:25:28,373 We always have to emphasize that we didn't do it, you know. 1630 01:25:28,457 --> 01:25:31,501 We just distributed it. Because, he wouldn't... 1631 01:25:31,585 --> 01:25:33,879 I don't think he would... Would you ever do that? 1632 01:25:33,962 --> 01:25:35,714 -I wouldn't know how. -I knew it! 1633 01:25:35,797 --> 01:25:38,634 But if you did know how, would you do it? 1634 01:25:39,384 --> 01:25:41,261 You have to think about that? 1635 01:25:41,345 --> 01:25:42,471 [laughing] Hey... 1636 01:25:42,804 --> 01:25:45,807 ♪ All my sorrows ♪ 1637 01:25:45,891 --> 01:25:48,810 ♪ Sad tomorrows ♪ 1638 01:25:50,812 --> 01:25:53,482 ♪ Take me back ♪ 1639 01:25:53,940 --> 01:25:56,485 ♪ To my own home ♪ 1640 01:25:56,568 --> 01:25:58,403 Okay. Are we finished? 1641 01:26:00,697 --> 01:26:02,366 ♪ All my sorrows... ♪ 1642 01:26:03,950 --> 01:26:07,496 ♪ Now I'm gonna tell you ♪ 1643 01:26:08,246 --> 01:26:11,833 ♪ The way it has to be ♪ 1644 01:26:12,459 --> 01:26:16,505 ♪ And if you pay attention ♪ 1645 01:26:17,339 --> 01:26:20,926 ♪ I'm sure that you will see ♪ 1646 01:26:22,177 --> 01:26:25,514 ♪ Just relax your muscles ♪ 1647 01:26:26,181 --> 01:26:29,685 ♪ And once you've hit that spot ♪ 1648 01:26:31,186 --> 01:26:34,940 ♪ Keep right on pushin' ♪ 1649 01:26:35,273 --> 01:26:39,027 ♪ Then give it all you've got ♪ 1650 01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:43,907 ♪ Now we've found your tinkler ♪ 1651 01:26:44,533 --> 01:26:48,245 ♪ The solution is quite clear ♪ 1652 01:26:49,079 --> 01:26:53,250 ♪ For if we both can hit it now ♪ 1653 01:26:53,917 --> 01:26:57,629 ♪ The bells you'll surely hear ♪ 1654 01:28:13,246 --> 01:28:15,832 [Lovelace] Helen, there's got to be more to life 1655 01:28:15,916 --> 01:28:18,210 [echoing] than screwing around. 1656 01:28:22,756 --> 01:28:24,591 I mean, there should be more to sex 1657 01:28:24,674 --> 01:28:27,427 [echoing] than a lot of little tingles. 1658 01:28:29,513 --> 01:28:31,973 There should be bells ringing, 1659 01:28:32,057 --> 01:28:35,435 dams bursting, bombs going off, something. 1660 01:28:42,984 --> 01:28:44,778 [Dr. Young] Find the solution. 1661 01:28:44,861 --> 01:28:45,904 [Lovelace] Like what? 1662 01:28:45,987 --> 01:28:47,197 [Dr. Young] Like deep throat. 1663 01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:49,282 [echoing] Deep throat. 1664 01:28:52,410 --> 01:28:54,913 [echoing] Deep throat. 1665 01:29:01,336 --> 01:29:03,088 [Lovelace] Dr. Young. 1666 01:29:06,383 --> 01:29:08,802 [echoing] Deep throat. 1667 01:29:11,179 --> 01:29:12,222 [Lovelace] Dr. Young 1668 01:29:12,305 --> 01:29:14,683 [echoing] Deep throat. 1669 01:29:18,186 --> 01:29:20,605 [echoing] Deep throat. 1670 01:29:30,448 --> 01:29:34,411 [Lovelace echoing] Oh, Dr. Young. 137357

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