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all right you said here's the
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documentary take one started as a small
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thing but now it's behind like this huge
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community of people not only the people
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in the show but also the fanbase I think
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it's amazing that we haven't had
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something like it before but I guess
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when something really cool is created it
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just seems like it always should have
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been there if you don't like the answers
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create content where no one can tell you
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no because you're the boss this is a
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legendary show everyone from coast to
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coast knows about the show and talks
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about it it just kind of really really
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goes there sort of an iconic series in
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the LGBT world it's built from within
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the community gay people telling their
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version of gay stories East Siders is
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gay gay gay there's so much gayness in
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the show it's making up for the decades
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of having not enough gay representation
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on television so it's basically like a
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big karate chop
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flying twisting triple salchow bleep and
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just smacks him in the face with gay
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homosexual propaganda my biggest
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takeaway was fuck the motherfuckers who
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don't get you and just make your own
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shit I'm wait for them to catch up
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when we put the first two episodes of
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East Siders on YouTube back in 2012 I
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couldn't even imagine the journey that
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the show has gone on from YouTube to
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logo to Netflix subtitled in over 30
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languages it didn't even seem like a
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possibility to me
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[Applause]
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cheers queers
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[Music]
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let's be real nobody makes a webseries
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because they want to they make a
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webseries because they have to because
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it's the only way that that story is
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going to be told because everybody in
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Hollywood has slammed the door in their
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fucking face hi my name is kit
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Williamson and I'm the creator writer
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director and producer of East Siders the
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series I also play cow I grew up in
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Jackson Mississippi I had a really
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loving family but uh I was also raised
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religious and in a community that didn't
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accept LGBT people is really really
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challenging for me when I realized that
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I was gay and that honestly I decided
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that I would have to leave that there
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wasn't a life for me there I came to Los
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Angeles to pursue my dreams of acting in
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television and film I got here and I had
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a year of intense auditioning where I
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went out for everything I could possibly
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go out for as the New Teen Dream the
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Melrose Place reboot 902 1o Teen Wolf
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and book - none of it and then my agent
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and manager both dropped me
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that's good drunk and I had no idea what
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to do with my life I was waiting tables
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at a diner in Sunset Junction it was
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really really dark and it really seemed
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like there was no entryway into the
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industry for me Wow love is dead because
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you just killed it
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so honestly I hated LA when I first
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moved here I always laugh because I feel
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like I'm the only real Eastsider on the
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show because kitten John's still go to
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the gym in West Hollywood but then I
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discovered Silver Lake through my friend
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Bria grant we just sort of bond it
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because I think we were both still
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really we were really motivated to get
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out there
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he was auditioning a ton and we would
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coach each other and help each other out
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I met my first month in LA in an acting
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class where I also met Constance Wu Shan
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Mar and a bunch of other actors that
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appeared in the first season of these
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ciders then he moved to Silver Lake
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which is where I lived and that made it
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even more convenient to hang out that's
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the key to LA friendships it's living in
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the same neighborhood I fell in love
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with the neighborhood it just seemed
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like this was the place that I was
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supposed to be at that time was a really
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vibrant artistic community where
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everybody I met it seemed like was a
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filmmaker or writer an actor and not in
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a gross way I love California
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just the weather the culture the gay
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rights and East Siders really began as a
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love letter to my neighborhood he said
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this is a darkly comic look at when gay
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couples struggle with infidelity in
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Silver Lake California
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it starts three-time Daytime Emmy
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nominee van Kansas Matthew Kelly and
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Steven Wario John Hall back an
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introducing conference room chairs
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I'm glad you even all have a bad pant
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situation hmm because well there's this
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pretty detail but I'm too short for it
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to show you know just gets covered Japan
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game is not tight my pant game is not
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tight what's underneath them though hi
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bitch like talk about these centers and
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talk about the last six years cuz we've
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been doing this for six but nothing's
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happened to me in the last six years
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I've got nothing to talk about boa snake
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out straight it was such a trip getting
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to know her
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first I thought kid was really hot and I
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was like little hot guy and I didn't
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actually know he was gay I didn't think
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he was I hope you what you know what
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I've heard this story a million times
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mom tell me another one we like the same
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shit we hated the same shit we like
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could geek out on like poetry and like
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Faulkner and my son both song of joy
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alfred Prufrock all that like
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pretentious fucking shit that made us
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feel like we're hot shit together you
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know what interviewers asking me a lot
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what what character I most like that
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I've played and they all think I'm gonna
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say Jess come on I'm like you know Kathy
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these ciders this is not thing to be
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proud of but I think it is a great honor
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and distinction Kathy's one of my
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favorite characters that I have ever
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written yeah she's not exactly gotten
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her shit together there's you know where
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it's like the second I get my makeup on
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I just pissed it right off so you know
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what I do I calm down I clean up I
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reapply which makes me remember why I
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was fucking crying in the first place
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and then there she blows and I just cry
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all over again you know all I've done
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today except I don't think I would try
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to have a conversation with my best
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friend while I was on the toilet with
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the door opens how old am i Cal I am 25
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people do not get married when they're
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25 unless they live in Minneapolis I
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don't know how to live in Minneapolis
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we were babies in season one that season
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one hair oh my god and the relationship
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between Cathy and Cal in East Siders was
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really inspired by my real life
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friendship with Constance these ciders
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had very humble beginnings it really
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started because we'd come from New York
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having both done Broadway shows wrongly
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assumed that Los Angeles would care
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about that and found that we had a real
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uphill battle trying to get anyone to
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take us seriously without any footage
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you look great
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I think a lot of people assume that the
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show is autobiographical and they're not
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entirely wrong but it's not necessarily
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the parts that they assume are
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autobiographical
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obviously my husband and I produce the
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show together it's about a gay couple
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living in Silver Lake California with a
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cat in this apartment and we are a gay
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couple living in Silver Lake California
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with a cat in this apartment so I think
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it would muddy the waters even more for
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us to have played these on-screen
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versions of ourselves in people's heads
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you know so I kind of put him as far
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away narrative Lee from my character as
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we could have gotten right
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you dated another Asian girl yeah she
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Chinese huh Don and Sarah both Korean oh
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there's definitely a lot of parallels
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between our lives and the characters
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lives but Cal and Tom are not KITT and
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John their journey is far more dramatic
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than ours it's the plot of season one
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especially is not autobiographical I
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mean neither of us have ever cheated on
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each other to my knowledge but there are
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a lot of things that are drawn from our
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lives and our friends lives or I've
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observed in the LGBT community but this
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is the first time I think I've seen main
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characters depicted over the course of
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six years navigating an open
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relationship wait are you talking about
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an open relationship yeah no it doesn't
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work I'm trying to tackle things that
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are happening in the moment like prep
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pre-exposure prophylaxis and HIV stigma
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and getting tested just gonna feel a
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little prick okay which I can assure you
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it's a sentence you will never hear me
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say outside of these four walls my
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signature scent is undetectable mace of
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demand because I make you take your
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pills making sure that it's reflective
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of queer life right now I know firsthand
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how important representation is because
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growing up gay a necessity I didn't have
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anybody like me around me and it's it's
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really easy to believe the lie that
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you're never gonna be happy when that's
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all you hear so I just decided to do it
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myself
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no well why is that have to be up to me
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why do I have to decide everything that
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sort of do-it-yourself mentality is you
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can't not have that in this business
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anyone that I know that has done really
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well they've written their own parts kit
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said you know what I'm just gonna make
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this not out of any like ambition or
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trying anything I'm just gonna make it
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as a birthday present to myself because
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I haven't seen stories like this and I
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want to make a story like this
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characters with flaws and complexities
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were allowed to fuck up their lives and
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relationships in the same way that we
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afford those flaws and complexities and
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mistakes - straight characters and I
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wrote the pilot not really knowing how
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to write a pilot or what rules I was
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breaking fuck I'm trying we had the good
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fortune to cast van Hans's opposite of
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KITT he needed somebody for Tom I was
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like I don't have web series ah that's
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the web series
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but then I read it and it was one of the
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best things I had ever read I
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immediately connected to all of the
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characters I thought was hilarious I
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thought was touching I was like fuck it
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I want to you know if they'll have me I
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want to be a part of it i self-financed
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the first two episodes of East Siders
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back in 2012
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most of the crew was volunteering their
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time they all took turns holding the
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boom in the beginning just the fact that
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we had a team of five six seven people
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there to make it felt like oh this is a
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this is a Hollywood thing it was a tiny
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crew craft he was pretty much as John
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mob off buying stuff
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store we are a 100% independent project
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which means you don't have any support
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from a major network or studio we do
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everything ourselves and we want it to
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stay that way on lower budget projects
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and passion projects the people that are
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on the set actually love the content
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and/or the people around them or else
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they wouldn't be doing it I've worked on
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so many shows where people we're just
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getting paychecks you know and this is
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one where people are there because they
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love the family vibe all the way just
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really authentic people that are there
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for a purpose because they believe in
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what they're doing they have passion for
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it even though our budget was very
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meager the first season it didn't feel
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meager because it didn't feel like we
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were being anything other than ourselves
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it's almost like when we were in acting
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class together we're just like working
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out scenes we're improving we're like
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finding the characters and doing the
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thing we love which is you know
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exploring our craft I knew what you know
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I knew obviously the pregnant are crazy
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it's really the either/or thing no cow I
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have a life growing inside my womb
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incubating like a wasp egg inside of the
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caterpillar first season I think he made
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for like like three dollars in a
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shoestring or something like that and
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call all his friends and called in a
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bunch of favors
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I was waiting tables at a restaurant
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called Mohawk Bend and almost every
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single person that I worked with at the
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time was an extra at some point the
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restaurant let us shoot there for free
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good thing you got your brunch shift
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covered how many you both
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used to work for this restaurant and now
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we've shot five scenes yeah going all
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the way back to season one one of the
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coolest things about making the show is
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that we've shot it in our apartment so
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now every season of our show is really a
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time capsule of our life in this
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apartment that I love so much I'm gonna
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be take a closer I think a lot of people
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bristle at the idea of being called a
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gay filmmaker or having a show be called
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a gay show I don't really take umbrage
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with that myself
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these make great coasters they're also
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good for door jambs kindling and of
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course you can bludgeon a homosexual
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up yes okay very cute very cute hate
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crime I think it can be very empowering
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to say for example hey like this is a
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good show you know what the creators are
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gay I'm gay
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I feel like there are some people who
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might not even be gay who can see
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themselves and certain characters or
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certain circumstances and you late great
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going right away
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I love it this is awesome it becomes
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universal these stories of love and
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relationships and failures and breakups
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and cheating all that good stuff
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who love you threw a football and we put
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the first two episodes on YouTube not
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really knowing what to expect and every
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gay blog picked up the show run towards
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we're me up new now next was looking at
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USA Today and seeing my little web
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series I was shooting in my living room
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recommended to the entire country felt
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like they went viral and I knew that I
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had to continue it the only problem was
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I hadn't written any of it so over
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Christmas break I sequestered myself
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away and I wrote the entire season and I
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just kind of like came out into the
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sunlight a week later and I was like oh
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we have a show Letson let's make the
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fucking show and we decided to do a
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Kickstarter to fund the remainder of the
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first season but now we need your help
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to take it to the next level and produce
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a full season these ciders this year and
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our goal was $15,000 which seemed really
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ambitious at the time $15,000 may seem
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like a lot of money but it's actually
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the bare minimum amount that we need in
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order to finish the season and we raised
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that in four days and blew past our
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crowdfunding ball almost immediately we
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have some amazing perks for you which
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you can read about below
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I like that one that's a good ideas what
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I'm offering my backers is my life
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I am willing to wake up in the morning
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with single-minded focus on telling
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these kinds of stories until I go to bed
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in the evening that's what I have to
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offer and hopefully you down for that
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journey and in the midst of that
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Kickstarter is actually when we got
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approached by logo wanting us to be a
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part of their online platform so that
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was another like Oh fancy
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we're Seban see screw you too we don't
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need YouTube I think there was
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definitely a time where we said we're
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not gonna do a season two we thought
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season 1 ended really perfectly and we
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didn't know how we could possibly
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continue this story where could it go
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uh-huh but then kit came up with some
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ideas about that and we decided to do
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what turned out to be way too ambitious
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Kickstarter to raise money for it he
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said there's Kickstarter she taking one
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every season it seems like we need more
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money because every season we learn just
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how many things we're doing wrong season
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one we had only gone for $15,000 and
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then I guess we thought we'd developed
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quite the fan base because we decided to
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go for a hundred and twenty five
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thousand dollars which was quite the
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leap to make but there were many many
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dark days in the middle of the campaign
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where I was convinced that we weren't
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gonna make our goal where I was
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literally writing to every single person
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that I had ever met Hey
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Oh everything's been good since seventh
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grade I see you have two children now
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would you like to give five dollars to
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this gay webseries or at least share the
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link I have never felt so exposed III
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felt like a fraud I felt like I had
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overestimated our audience but then
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people came through for us and over a
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thousand people came together to make
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season two habit
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and I'm forever grateful I'm forever
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grateful to our Kickstarter backers
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because I would never career I would
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never show oh my god
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content like East Siders is made
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possible by drag queens like you because
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like we would not have East Siders and
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other fans we've crowdfunded every
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single season and the fans have been so
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supportive we're not answering to
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network executives we're answering to
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our fans and you can come and visit the
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set and get to talk about what's
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happening on the show and get to keep
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input on scripts thank you all of our
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Kickstarter backers who made this season
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a reality we seriously could not have
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done this without you late literally
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this would not be happening without your
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healthy being to be able to part of this
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show and this experience and this
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wedding with this group of people is the
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best day of my life so far it's
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inspiring to see that a community come
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together and create a forum and a
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platform where they're queer stories can
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be told we're so thrilled to welcome
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back the entire cast and crew for season
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two and we'll be introducing some
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exciting new faces see you over the next
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month as well season one is a really
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intimate chamber piece it's just about
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really three relationships and in season
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two we wanted to expand the world of the
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show to really be an ensemble of all
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kinds of different queer relationships
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as many as we could fucking get into the
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show at the same time while still
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honoring each of the stories and having
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it feel like a complete park essentially
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kit is an incredible producer director
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and wanted to kind of use people from
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the community that he knew were actors
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and kind of give them a platform yeah we
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know it takes a long time to look that
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cheap that's when we introduced Williams
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character Willam plays an aspiring drag
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queen named Douglas I like you I think
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you're great as Marcia Gay Harden I'm
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has been Dinah AIDS for a week fine
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that's horrifying
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I want to date Douglas okay okay who is
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navigating life and starting a new
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relationship both in and out of drag I
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only read the parts that had my
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character on it
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and I liked it I thought it was a good
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script I used to call it hot people
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talking that was my subtitle for the
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series because it was a lot of hot
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people talking
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can we do one slight variation when we
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do the waiting on the same love to not
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be
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love is right after you
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so I'll take it back to right before
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their I don't know miss assume that I've
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ever seen a love story between a drag
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queen and her partner I don't think I've
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seen that story unfold and kind of the
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small subtleties of the issues that
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specifically impact Williams character
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what are the unique challenges of dating
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a drag queen or of being a drag queen
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and trying to date somebody who maybe
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doesn't want to be seen in public with
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you in drag just want to keep you
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company
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we always think that like drag queens
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like they just live as these you know
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glitter women but you know we take up a
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stuff and we have relationships and we
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have our daily lives and we deal with
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with regular things like a regular
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person because believe it or not there's
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a real balding 36 year old man that he
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has herpes that's okay a little bit more
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gonna do or say we're just gonna do
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improv he wins faces Willam for example
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is an incredible actor an amazing singer
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and a hilarious comedian dude your baby
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just kidnapped
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cuz bitch you just got him brother male
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with like cut cut cut he does all of
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these things while doing his own hair
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and makeup and creating these incredible
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head-to-toe looks
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hi my name is Blake I'm a fashion
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designer you may know me from Project
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Runway Season 14 and I made Williams
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wedding dress we did a corset in it and
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we got our waist down to a 21 inch waist
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so super tiny am I wrong
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we can pick it up
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that honestly I couldn't in a million
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years come up with working with a team
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this specific role that it created for
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me has allowed me to craft my own
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perfect onset experience because I know
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what I'm gonna be wearing because I deal
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with it I know what the hair is gonna be
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because I deal with it and you know
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that's nice because a lot of times you
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don't have that control guiding sluttier
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these are the kinds of stories that I
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haven't really seen people tackle and I
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wanted to tackle stories that are unique
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to the queer community it's not just the
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the honey gay guy that makes a few
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appearances or or the drag queen has the
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the one-liner there's a depth and
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sometimes an ugliness all wrapped in
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into humor my makeups ridiculous my
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incredible party's ridiculous
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alright now you're just wasting good
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chicken shows like these ciders about
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will allow for a more authentic
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treatment of somebody like me which is
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spoiler alert season 2 ends with Tom and
550
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Cal moving east all the way to New York
551
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City and double spoiler season three
552
00:24:31,570 --> 00:24:33,370
begins with Tom and Cal deciding it's
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time to move back West to Los Angeles
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they set out to have the road trip of
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their lives but nothing with Tom and Cal
556
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is ever simple so they're bounded we
557
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have two bumps on the road I remember
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staying up late one night and just sleep
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writing and writing and writing and
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conceptualizing the idea of a
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cross-country road trip from New York to
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Los Angeles hauling a vintage camper
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trailer from the 1960s
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[Music]
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and really seeing America and be
566
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claiming America for here audience
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the road trip was so hard at the time it
568
00:25:23,580 --> 00:25:25,799
was the hardest thing I had ever done in
569
00:25:25,799 --> 00:25:29,460
my life I was very nervous about the
570
00:25:29,460 --> 00:25:32,400
road trip season and I wasn't wrong cuz
571
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,070
it was not fun just wish that we hadn't
572
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been thinking about getting back to
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California from the moment we got there
574
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it was forward maybe didn't have to be
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maybe it did the stakes were high from
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the very very beginning of the trip we
577
00:25:48,450 --> 00:25:50,789
had one day to film in New York City
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before we had to get on the road cuz we
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knew that if we fell behind that day if
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00:25:55,289 --> 00:25:57,480
we delayed our production by one day we
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were fucked kit doesn't take no for an
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answer and I think is not always
583
00:26:03,919 --> 00:26:06,990
realistic about how difficult something
584
00:26:06,990 --> 00:26:09,179
is going to be or how possible something
585
00:26:09,179 --> 00:26:11,610
is going to be we put the camper trailer
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on the Subaru Outback and quickly
587
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realized we couldn't go over 40 miles an
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hour
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we were originally supposed to get into
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Pittsburgh at 11 p.m. we didn't arrive
591
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till 4:00 and there was mutiny in the
592
00:26:30,149 --> 00:26:32,640
crew everybody was ready to quit
593
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,950
basically I got a text message from for
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my director of photography saying this
595
00:26:38,130 --> 00:26:39,809
isn't what I signed up for if this is
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the way the rest of the shoot is gonna
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be I'm gonna have to replace myself in
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Idaho look replace yourself in Idaho
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00:26:45,750 --> 00:26:50,190
with who with a fucking elk No jesus
600
00:26:50,190 --> 00:26:52,309
fucking christ it was a moment where
601
00:26:52,309 --> 00:26:54,240
John and I really looked at each other
602
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,510
and said have we bitten off more than we
603
00:26:57,510 --> 00:26:59,460
could chew like is this actually
604
00:26:59,460 --> 00:27:03,480
possible for us to achieve on this
605
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,880
budget level either way there's one
606
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,230
thing that I don't have anyone Expo
607
00:27:08,230 --> 00:27:12,940
that earlier with you eventually we did
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00:27:12,940 --> 00:27:14,740
you know kind of come back together and
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make it work then finally on day three
610
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it clicked
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[Music]
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I feel like we really are the Midwest
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just like would you like a seat honey
614
00:27:34,660 --> 00:27:38,320
baby honey baby would people know you
615
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:39,760
don't call you baby that much in New
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York I like that you made her both
617
00:27:41,050 --> 00:27:44,140
southern and slutty well she was we got
618
00:27:44,140 --> 00:27:45,570
some really really beautiful footage
619
00:27:45,570 --> 00:27:48,370
snowing outside of Yellowstone see two
620
00:27:48,370 --> 00:27:49,570
gay guys kissed in front of Mount
621
00:27:49,570 --> 00:27:51,550
Rushmore come the fuck on who does that
622
00:27:51,550 --> 00:27:53,680
in her web series season three I did we
623
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,930
lost several locations when people found
624
00:27:55,930 --> 00:27:58,270
out what the show's middle in there yeah
625
00:27:58,270 --> 00:28:01,450
Idaho was surprisingly welcoming and so
626
00:28:01,450 --> 00:28:03,580
we just specifically picked campgrounds
627
00:28:03,580 --> 00:28:04,840
we were trying to shoot at we lost
628
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,700
multiple ones it was all confirmed rates
629
00:28:06,700 --> 00:28:08,050
were negotiated and then all of a sudden
630
00:28:08,050 --> 00:28:09,670
they were unavailable and the only thing
631
00:28:09,670 --> 00:28:10,930
I can think is that that's when the name
632
00:28:10,930 --> 00:28:13,510
of the show came into existence I'm not
633
00:28:13,510 --> 00:28:16,660
just unavailable unresponsive so we had
634
00:28:16,660 --> 00:28:18,940
a pseudonym for the show after the first
635
00:28:18,940 --> 00:28:22,720
two times I have is crazy we changed the
636
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,420
slate to say go west and we told people
637
00:28:25,420 --> 00:28:27,580
like at our locations it was about two
638
00:28:27,580 --> 00:28:30,760
friends going across the country Wow
639
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,060
I don't want to go back to real life
640
00:28:33,060 --> 00:28:38,290
this isn't real life got a jobs you got
641
00:28:38,290 --> 00:28:40,330
to get the cat back from Hillary the cat
642
00:28:40,330 --> 00:28:43,980
stole I've gotta find a place to live
643
00:28:43,980 --> 00:28:46,780
before compared to other gage shows I
644
00:28:46,780 --> 00:28:48,130
think East Siders has the most heart
645
00:28:48,130 --> 00:28:50,650
because it's not controlled by a studio
646
00:28:50,650 --> 00:28:53,260
or a network or seven circles of hell to
647
00:28:53,260 --> 00:28:54,820
tell you what you can and can't do I
648
00:28:54,820 --> 00:28:56,020
feel like this show has the freedom to
649
00:28:56,020 --> 00:28:57,700
do whatever the hell it wants within
650
00:28:57,700 --> 00:29:00,340
budget nobody has taken the concept of
651
00:29:00,340 --> 00:29:02,559
East Siders and given me ten million
652
00:29:02,559 --> 00:29:04,990
dollars to make a season what we've been
653
00:29:04,990 --> 00:29:08,110
able to do however is find that audience
654
00:29:08,110 --> 00:29:10,330
on Netflix starting with season three
655
00:29:10,330 --> 00:29:12,520
our distributor wolf video was able to
656
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,100
broker a worldwide streaming exclusive
657
00:29:15,100 --> 00:29:20,950
that was really the like the satisfying
658
00:29:20,950 --> 00:29:22,780
this is my opening night on Broadway
659
00:29:22,780 --> 00:29:27,490
feeling like alright maybe this is all
660
00:29:27,490 --> 00:29:31,110
done worth it we are yes
661
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,280
I people who are you know screen
662
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,710
grabbing me from all over the world
663
00:29:35,710 --> 00:29:38,050
watching the show in their home country
664
00:29:38,050 --> 00:29:39,820
in their language we've literally had
665
00:29:39,820 --> 00:29:41,410
people write to us from Saudi Arabia and
666
00:29:41,410 --> 00:29:43,650
Nigeria and China and places where it is
667
00:29:43,650 --> 00:29:46,870
inhospitable or illegal to be gay saying
668
00:29:46,870 --> 00:29:48,280
that the show made them feel less alone
669
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,059
I can't understate the significance of
670
00:29:52,059 --> 00:29:54,370
that to me I grew up in a really
671
00:29:54,370 --> 00:29:56,559
conservative family and would sneak off
672
00:29:56,559 --> 00:29:58,270
and like watch like the gay Netflix
673
00:29:58,270 --> 00:30:01,540
shows that were on so back then yeah
674
00:30:01,540 --> 00:30:07,030
yeah but like you you know you like by
675
00:30:07,030 --> 00:30:09,580
the time season three came along we
676
00:30:09,580 --> 00:30:12,790
really had a good enough audience that
677
00:30:12,790 --> 00:30:15,250
was hungry and ready for more episodes
678
00:30:15,250 --> 00:30:17,590
of the show that when season three came
679
00:30:17,590 --> 00:30:20,700
out it felt like a really big deal hey
680
00:30:20,700 --> 00:30:23,620
Jon I'm kit and we are here getting
681
00:30:23,620 --> 00:30:28,809
ready to go East Siders is up in six
682
00:30:28,809 --> 00:30:30,700
categories and we got a lot of our
683
00:30:30,700 --> 00:30:33,300
parents with us
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00:30:37,370 --> 00:30:38,970
[Applause]
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[Music]
686
00:30:42,750 --> 00:30:45,460
- remember when you watched the first
687
00:30:45,460 --> 00:30:48,700
episode of East Siders in 2012 yes I do
688
00:30:48,700 --> 00:30:51,670
I remember being very very proud and I
689
00:30:51,670 --> 00:30:54,220
remember thinking this is what not
690
00:30:54,220 --> 00:30:56,380
giving up looks like to be able to share
691
00:30:56,380 --> 00:31:32,560
this with you no conservator huh it was
692
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,050
really hard getting the gang back
693
00:31:35,050 --> 00:31:37,180
together people wanted to do it people
694
00:31:37,180 --> 00:31:38,380
said they wanted to do it I think
695
00:31:38,380 --> 00:31:39,790
everyone is gonna be really excited when
696
00:31:39,790 --> 00:31:42,390
it finally comes out but in reality
697
00:31:42,390 --> 00:31:45,670
getting all those people together on
698
00:31:45,670 --> 00:31:48,310
that set for that entire month was
699
00:31:48,310 --> 00:31:50,460
really hard I would say it's harder on
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00:31:50,460 --> 00:31:52,150
these friendships and these
701
00:31:52,150 --> 00:31:53,500
relationships than it is on our
702
00:31:53,500 --> 00:31:54,820
relationship well maybe we're just
703
00:31:54,820 --> 00:31:57,010
dealing with the fact that pretty much
704
00:31:57,010 --> 00:31:58,360
everybody involved in this is a little
705
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:02,020
bit too old for this shit you know it
706
00:32:02,020 --> 00:32:03,880
was it was one thing in our early 20s to
707
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,670
just kind of set ourselves on fire for a
708
00:32:06,670 --> 00:32:10,810
web series for footage for our reels for
709
00:32:10,810 --> 00:32:12,490
an opportunity to get our name out there
710
00:32:12,490 --> 00:32:14,740
and to have exposure a lot of these
711
00:32:14,740 --> 00:32:16,450
actors don't really need exposure I
712
00:32:16,450 --> 00:32:20,620
think the show made me even better
713
00:32:20,620 --> 00:32:24,420
friends with with care and John and Bria
714
00:32:24,420 --> 00:32:27,190
and not for the reasons you think it
715
00:32:27,190 --> 00:32:29,620
might not because we just had like the
716
00:32:29,620 --> 00:32:31,390
best honky-dory time because there were
717
00:32:31,390 --> 00:32:34,840
times where like we were at odds because
718
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,820
of like scheduling or availability and I
719
00:32:36,820 --> 00:32:38,020
know that I'm super annoying and I know
720
00:32:38,020 --> 00:32:39,430
I'm totally fucking you over by taking
721
00:32:39,430 --> 00:32:40,240
this job because I know that you're
722
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,800
gonna miss me a lot because I'm gonna
723
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,960
miss you I think the test of a
724
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,320
friendship is how you navigate
725
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,140
difficulty together and I think that's
726
00:32:51,140 --> 00:32:53,990
more real than a friendship where
727
00:32:53,990 --> 00:32:57,980
everything is just candy and I feel like
728
00:32:57,980 --> 00:33:01,840
the truest relationships I've had
729
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,340
nourish me in a way that candy doesn't
730
00:33:04,340 --> 00:33:06,230
and that means sometimes you have to
731
00:33:06,230 --> 00:33:08,270
like I don't know eat something that you
732
00:33:08,270 --> 00:33:10,520
don't like I mean you also need stuff
733
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,520
that you really like that makes you feel
734
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:17,059
nourished and full and happy it's a
735
00:33:17,059 --> 00:33:19,880
complete meal kidding just the snap he's
736
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,159
a complete meal that's a nice thing I
737
00:33:22,159 --> 00:33:24,529
decided to end the show with season four
738
00:33:24,529 --> 00:33:27,200
because I wanted to end the story the
739
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,049
right way it's never gonna end stop it
740
00:33:30,049 --> 00:33:32,169
no it's gonna be like fucking
741
00:33:32,169 --> 00:33:33,980
supernatural and go for like thirteen
742
00:33:33,980 --> 00:33:34,580
seasons
743
00:33:34,580 --> 00:33:37,399
stay tuned for season five logistically
744
00:33:37,399 --> 00:33:38,809
I don't think that a season five would
745
00:33:38,809 --> 00:33:40,700
be possible on this budget and to put it
746
00:33:40,700 --> 00:33:43,700
in context five minutes of a show like
747
00:33:43,700 --> 00:33:45,950
looking has a larger budget than four
748
00:33:45,950 --> 00:33:50,149
seasons of designers how far can we use
749
00:33:50,149 --> 00:33:53,450
our our relationships to get favors and
750
00:33:53,450 --> 00:33:55,909
I think four seasons is our limit I
751
00:33:55,909 --> 00:33:57,559
think that's where we're at I think that
752
00:33:57,559 --> 00:33:59,390
we've reached the ceiling of what we can
753
00:33:59,390 --> 00:34:01,520
achieve independently and I'm happy with
754
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,559
the success that the show has had but
755
00:34:03,559 --> 00:34:06,590
ultimately I don't want the show to just
756
00:34:06,590 --> 00:34:10,159
kind of go out with a whimper fuck that
757
00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:13,010
shit we're going out with a bang okay
758
00:34:13,010 --> 00:34:14,210
who are all these people the wedding
759
00:34:14,210 --> 00:34:15,530
party but you knew the model okay
760
00:34:15,530 --> 00:34:16,609
something this is gonna photo shoot for
761
00:34:16,609 --> 00:34:19,250
mr. Tuerck which is a gosh quiet Jimmy
762
00:34:19,250 --> 00:34:22,750
yep Jimmy hi
763
00:34:22,770 --> 00:34:26,239
this is a shot in the series so far
764
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,580
involves like 15 actors three drag
765
00:34:29,580 --> 00:34:32,820
queens three Instagram influencers there
766
00:34:32,820 --> 00:34:34,980
are a lot of different uses that have to
767
00:34:34,980 --> 00:34:37,679
be done via headset but the factors you
768
00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:39,659
can't see each other and disease to time
769
00:34:39,659 --> 00:34:43,500
how fucking perfectly so it is the giant
770
00:34:43,500 --> 00:34:46,168
flaming hoop of the center season four
771
00:34:46,168 --> 00:35:00,150
and I have no idea what you it or now we
772
00:35:00,150 --> 00:35:02,400
have all of these incredible wonderful
773
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,110
drag queens that are also all super
774
00:35:04,110 --> 00:35:05,550
fucking successful and get flown around
775
00:35:05,550 --> 00:35:07,590
the world to do shows in Dubai and
776
00:35:07,590 --> 00:35:09,930
Brazil and have very difficult schedules
777
00:35:09,930 --> 00:35:11,640
to pin down the vector they're all
778
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,110
coming together in the same space to
779
00:35:13,110 --> 00:35:15,240
tell this story isn't it's just
780
00:35:15,240 --> 00:35:18,720
incredible I am so excited to be acting
781
00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:20,280
on a set with a big group of people
782
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,720
making magic and are it's really
783
00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:27,510
inspiring to me so I'm gonna miss
784
00:35:27,510 --> 00:35:28,710
everyone on this set
785
00:35:28,710 --> 00:35:31,530
putting all the drag queens so you guys
786
00:35:31,530 --> 00:35:33,359
will stay at the end of the season but
787
00:35:33,359 --> 00:35:35,369
they'll intern Jo in the two of you as
788
00:35:35,369 --> 00:35:37,560
top of the season a huge fan of the show
789
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,300
and it's just so thrilled to be on that
790
00:35:39,300 --> 00:35:42,840
right now like the life look pretty I am
791
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,970
so honored that I got asked to be here
792
00:35:44,970 --> 00:35:47,220
to be a part of the last season I can
793
00:35:47,220 --> 00:35:49,619
say hey I was in the last season of
794
00:35:49,619 --> 00:35:52,190
these centers
795
00:35:54,030 --> 00:35:56,560
you're it's fantastic it's gonna be a
796
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:08,280
great shot yes it's a dream for me
797
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,690
anytime somebody tells me that
798
00:36:10,690 --> 00:36:13,360
eastsiders inspired them to tell their
799
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,780
story that's the most rewarding thing to
800
00:36:16,780 --> 00:36:19,570
me to know that your work can inspire
801
00:36:19,570 --> 00:36:21,400
others the teenagers who are watching
802
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,760
this show now and seeing a depiction of
803
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,430
who they are gives them permission then
804
00:36:27,430 --> 00:36:31,050
I think to tell their own stories
805
00:36:48,310 --> 00:37:08,200
and that is the picture honestly the
806
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,020
show has always been about love it's
807
00:37:11,020 --> 00:37:14,200
always been about the challenges of
808
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,160
human connection of relationships
809
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,660
sticking it out through adversity you
810
00:37:19,660 --> 00:37:21,430
know this idea of not knowing where
811
00:37:21,430 --> 00:37:24,460
you're going but knowing that you want
812
00:37:24,460 --> 00:37:26,260
to go on the journey with the person
813
00:37:26,260 --> 00:37:57,480
next to you very very cool seven years
814
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:03,490
he's had those over for sure it's really
815
00:38:03,490 --> 00:38:05,410
sad thinking about this being the last
816
00:38:05,410 --> 00:38:06,940
time getting these people together and
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I'm sure it's not the last time we get
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these people oh yeah I mean we'll do a
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concert at Carnegie Hall for sure coming
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to our Carnegie Hall concert everybody
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little bit back
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