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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,900 --> 00:00:03,036 [♪♪♪] 2 00:00:07,907 --> 00:00:10,076 [♪♪♪] 3 00:00:10,210 --> 00:00:12,412 [Mike] I'm always thinking about fire. 4 00:00:13,113 --> 00:00:16,583 It's an obsession, really. 5 00:00:18,218 --> 00:00:20,587 I'm an ignition specialist. 6 00:00:22,288 --> 00:00:24,924 My main role is to work with communities 7 00:00:25,058 --> 00:00:27,427 to help provide protection from wildfire. 8 00:00:29,529 --> 00:00:30,397 As firefighters, 9 00:00:30,530 --> 00:00:32,632 we're usually behind the eight-ball. 10 00:00:32,766 --> 00:00:35,468 We're called because there already is a fire. 11 00:00:35,602 --> 00:00:38,772 Mother Nature has the jump on us... 12 00:00:38,905 --> 00:00:39,739 but, you know, 13 00:00:39,873 --> 00:00:41,941 we can use Mother Nature's tool of fire 14 00:00:42,075 --> 00:00:44,978 for good instead of bad. 15 00:00:45,111 --> 00:00:48,415 We can use fire, not just fight fire. 16 00:00:51,885 --> 00:00:55,021 I'm always thinking about "Why is the fire doing this?" 17 00:00:55,155 --> 00:00:57,690 Looking at the indices. 18 00:00:57,824 --> 00:01:00,093 Trying to solve that riddle 19 00:01:00,226 --> 00:01:01,261 of, "What is the driving force 20 00:01:01,394 --> 00:01:04,497 that is making this fire happen?" 21 00:01:04,631 --> 00:01:06,599 That if we can find that weak link 22 00:01:06,733 --> 00:01:07,834 and break that, 23 00:01:07,967 --> 00:01:10,103 we can help control this fire. 24 00:01:11,938 --> 00:01:13,106 As a fire behaviour specialist, 25 00:01:13,239 --> 00:01:15,008 there is the joke that goes around 26 00:01:15,141 --> 00:01:17,043 that I show up and talk to the fire, 27 00:01:17,177 --> 00:01:18,044 and tell it to behave itself. 28 00:01:18,178 --> 00:01:21,214 Sometimes it doesn't listen. 29 00:01:25,151 --> 00:01:28,455 [♪♪♪] 30 00:02:01,221 --> 00:02:02,355 [Joe] One of the things 31 00:02:02,489 --> 00:02:04,724 that my grandmother told me 32 00:02:04,858 --> 00:02:07,994 was water is the cleanser of the human body, 33 00:02:08,127 --> 00:02:11,798 and fire is the cleanser of Mother Earth. 34 00:02:14,300 --> 00:02:17,270 As the songs and stories go, 35 00:02:17,403 --> 00:02:20,073 the fire made sure that all was healthy 36 00:02:20,206 --> 00:02:23,376 and we're always provided for by the land. 37 00:02:28,381 --> 00:02:31,417 Cultural burning is the Indigenous use of fire. 38 00:02:31,551 --> 00:02:34,187 It's a tool to steward the land. 39 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,789 It was done over thousands of years 40 00:02:36,923 --> 00:02:38,224 by Indigenous people, 41 00:02:38,358 --> 00:02:40,527 and the fire was used 42 00:02:40,660 --> 00:02:45,798 to take care of the resources that we were interested in, 43 00:02:45,932 --> 00:02:46,933 medicine, food plants, 44 00:02:47,066 --> 00:02:49,302 the wetlands, 45 00:02:49,435 --> 00:02:52,071 huckleberry patches, meadows, 46 00:02:52,205 --> 00:02:55,975 all those areas. 47 00:02:57,210 --> 00:02:59,312 [Tony] The record shows 48 00:02:59,445 --> 00:03:02,215 that under Indigenous fire stewardship practices, 49 00:03:02,348 --> 00:03:02,982 those systems of management 50 00:03:03,116 --> 00:03:05,051 and stewarding the land 51 00:03:05,185 --> 00:03:07,153 broke up the landscape 52 00:03:07,287 --> 00:03:09,956 and created this patchwork on the landscape 53 00:03:10,089 --> 00:03:13,493 which really allowed fires to become quite more contained. 54 00:03:17,263 --> 00:03:18,131 For as long as there's been photosynthesis 55 00:03:18,264 --> 00:03:20,066 on the planet, 56 00:03:20,199 --> 00:03:21,401 there's been fire, 57 00:03:21,534 --> 00:03:22,669 and a lot of ecosystems, 58 00:03:22,802 --> 00:03:25,071 certainly in BC, but across the planet, 59 00:03:25,205 --> 00:03:26,506 are adapted to fire. 60 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:27,974 They require it, actually. 61 00:03:28,107 --> 00:03:29,309 There's species of plant, for example, 62 00:03:29,442 --> 00:03:31,644 that only produce seeds after a fire event, 63 00:03:31,778 --> 00:03:34,948 so the concept of good fire really just recognizes 64 00:03:35,081 --> 00:03:36,182 that fire has always been a part of ecosystems, 65 00:03:36,316 --> 00:03:38,952 will always be a part of ecosystems, 66 00:03:39,085 --> 00:03:45,758 and we can use fire to reduce the risk of unwanted fire. 67 00:03:50,263 --> 00:03:52,832 We'll just go, like, maybe one or two feet 68 00:03:52,966 --> 00:03:54,467 from the inside here, 69 00:03:54,601 --> 00:03:56,102 and then we'll just layer it... down that way. 70 00:03:56,235 --> 00:03:57,971 Okay. 71 00:04:01,241 --> 00:04:04,210 [Joe] By using fire to cleanse Mother Earth, 72 00:04:04,344 --> 00:04:06,446 you get rid of the fuel. 73 00:04:08,648 --> 00:04:11,150 If you don't have any fuel, then you don't have any fire. 74 00:04:11,284 --> 00:04:13,653 Right? So if you can use fire in that way, 75 00:04:13,786 --> 00:04:15,655 then you'll make your community safer 76 00:04:15,788 --> 00:04:17,657 in the long run. 77 00:04:18,791 --> 00:04:21,327 Looking, you know, into the future, 78 00:04:21,461 --> 00:04:22,228 you won't have to bother with this 79 00:04:22,362 --> 00:04:24,664 for another four years, 80 00:04:24,797 --> 00:04:26,032 so, you know, for four years, 81 00:04:26,165 --> 00:04:28,067 you just kinda have a little peace of mind 82 00:04:28,201 --> 00:04:29,035 for the families that are here 83 00:04:29,168 --> 00:04:31,371 that a fire... 84 00:04:31,504 --> 00:04:33,039 you know, if it starts right here, 85 00:04:33,172 --> 00:04:34,841 we'll have a chance to put it out, 86 00:04:34,974 --> 00:04:37,677 'cause there won't be so much fuel. 87 00:04:38,278 --> 00:04:40,513 The firekeeper 88 00:04:40,647 --> 00:04:43,216 is a person that's comfortable using the fire, 89 00:04:43,349 --> 00:04:47,487 being able to apply fire to the land. 90 00:04:47,620 --> 00:04:50,056 You can't just let the fire take off and run, now. 91 00:04:50,189 --> 00:04:51,324 You have to be able to control it 92 00:04:51,457 --> 00:04:52,258 and actually stop it. 93 00:04:54,961 --> 00:04:56,095 Tyler? 94 00:04:56,229 --> 00:04:57,263 Don't make it too big, hey? 95 00:04:59,565 --> 00:05:02,368 Springtime and fall-time is usually the best time 96 00:05:02,502 --> 00:05:04,937 to do a cultural burn, 97 00:05:05,071 --> 00:05:06,339 fall-time for deciduous. 98 00:05:07,573 --> 00:05:09,208 We get rid of that kind of stuff, and... 99 00:05:09,342 --> 00:05:12,278 all the leaves that fell 100 00:05:12,412 --> 00:05:15,848 in the last three or four years, 101 00:05:15,982 --> 00:05:17,016 and then, you get a... 102 00:05:17,150 --> 00:05:20,553 a growth of grass coming back with, uh, mushrooms 103 00:05:20,687 --> 00:05:23,022 and all kinds of different medicine 104 00:05:23,156 --> 00:05:25,091 that's just waiting for fire, 105 00:05:25,224 --> 00:05:28,428 and it's not killing the berry bushes, 106 00:05:28,561 --> 00:05:31,331 it's actually just improving them. 107 00:05:33,566 --> 00:05:36,102 [Tony] Most of the burns we do now 108 00:05:36,235 --> 00:05:37,303 are in partnership with First Nations. 109 00:05:37,437 --> 00:05:41,240 Most of them are informed by First Nations knowledge, 110 00:05:41,374 --> 00:05:43,309 or certainly what First Nations objectives are, 111 00:05:43,443 --> 00:05:46,412 what they actually want to see on their territories 112 00:05:46,546 --> 00:05:48,214 in terms of bringing good fire back to their territories. 113 00:05:54,454 --> 00:05:56,155 [Mike] Today's objectives? 114 00:05:56,289 --> 00:05:57,123 First priority 115 00:05:57,256 --> 00:06:00,560 is ecosystem restoration, 116 00:06:00,693 --> 00:06:03,262 reducing fuel loading on the site, 117 00:06:03,396 --> 00:06:06,666 and as well, creating a, uh... 118 00:06:06,799 --> 00:06:11,437 a fuel break, potentially, for the community of Wasa, 119 00:06:11,571 --> 00:06:13,840 as well as Ta Ta Creek, which is north of us. 120 00:06:13,973 --> 00:06:16,609 Small communities, but still, you know, 121 00:06:16,743 --> 00:06:19,879 very in need of community protection. 122 00:06:23,449 --> 00:06:27,019 You're gonna be starting at the north end, 123 00:06:27,153 --> 00:06:27,620 working your way south, 124 00:06:27,754 --> 00:06:29,689 so two firing teams, 125 00:06:29,822 --> 00:06:33,326 one going down the west, one going down the east. 126 00:06:33,459 --> 00:06:35,361 Uh, east side will be numerical, 127 00:06:35,495 --> 00:06:37,663 west side'll be alphabetical. 128 00:06:37,797 --> 00:06:41,300 Any idea why we set it up that way? 129 00:06:41,434 --> 00:06:42,935 [crew member] Less confusion? 130 00:06:43,069 --> 00:06:43,369 No confusion! 131 00:06:43,503 --> 00:06:45,104 [laughter] 132 00:06:45,238 --> 00:06:47,006 If you're being told to go from one to two, 133 00:06:47,140 --> 00:06:49,275 there's no way you can hear that on the radio 134 00:06:49,408 --> 00:06:50,276 saying, "Go from A to B." 135 00:06:50,410 --> 00:06:54,814 It just makes it totally cleaner. 136 00:06:54,947 --> 00:06:56,749 Okay. 137 00:06:59,819 --> 00:07:02,488 Once it's done, you guys can get out to the perimeter, 138 00:07:02,622 --> 00:07:04,190 and I'll start filling in the middle. 139 00:07:04,323 --> 00:07:05,391 [member] Yeah, sounds great. 140 00:07:07,794 --> 00:07:11,497 [Mike] A lot of the fir, larch, and yellow pine 141 00:07:11,631 --> 00:07:12,398 are fire-resistant. 142 00:07:12,532 --> 00:07:13,666 They have very thick bark 143 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,702 that protects them from the heat, 144 00:07:16,836 --> 00:07:18,838 and it does not damage the timber. 145 00:07:18,971 --> 00:07:21,507 It's just a nice, clean undergrowth. 146 00:07:21,641 --> 00:07:24,444 It just cleans that out nicely. 147 00:07:25,378 --> 00:07:27,246 First Nations have a saying 148 00:07:27,380 --> 00:07:30,316 that when you see the purple fuzzy flowers, 149 00:07:30,449 --> 00:07:32,752 that it's time to burn. 150 00:07:32,885 --> 00:07:35,855 Once this flower is fully open and the petals drop, 151 00:07:35,988 --> 00:07:38,424 then that's a no-go after that. 152 00:07:38,558 --> 00:07:40,893 So, just a neat little indicator 153 00:07:41,027 --> 00:07:43,196 that we're in the right place at the right time, 154 00:07:43,329 --> 00:07:44,864 and doing the right thing. 155 00:07:45,565 --> 00:07:48,334 We have many different ignition devices 156 00:07:48,468 --> 00:07:50,136 in our arsenal. 157 00:07:54,874 --> 00:07:56,275 The plastic sphere dispenser, 158 00:07:56,409 --> 00:07:59,612 also known as the Red Dragon, 159 00:07:59,745 --> 00:08:01,781 is a device that shoots out plastic spheres 160 00:08:01,914 --> 00:08:05,251 which are basically the size of a ping-pong ball 161 00:08:05,384 --> 00:08:07,186 used for ignition. 162 00:08:08,254 --> 00:08:09,388 [sizzling] 163 00:08:09,522 --> 00:08:12,024 It's an exothermic reaction 164 00:08:12,158 --> 00:08:13,459 where the potassium permanganate, 165 00:08:13,593 --> 00:08:16,429 when it meets glycol, produces heat, 166 00:08:16,562 --> 00:08:20,266 and will burn at up to 2,000 degrees. 167 00:08:20,399 --> 00:08:23,135 The machine spits the ball out, 168 00:08:23,269 --> 00:08:25,471 it drops from the helicopter onto the ground, 169 00:08:25,605 --> 00:08:28,074 20 to 30 seconds later, 170 00:08:28,207 --> 00:08:29,408 it will burst into flame 171 00:08:29,542 --> 00:08:32,311 and burn for approximately two minutes. 172 00:08:34,213 --> 00:08:35,414 It is fun to do, 173 00:08:35,548 --> 00:08:37,950 you know, 'cause you're flying in the back of the helicopter, 174 00:08:38,084 --> 00:08:40,920 and you have the door off, you're seat-belted in, 175 00:08:41,053 --> 00:08:43,422 you've got the greatest seat in the house 176 00:08:43,556 --> 00:08:46,926 for when the fire actually gets going. 177 00:08:49,428 --> 00:08:51,097 The PSD is better 178 00:08:51,230 --> 00:08:52,932 for when you really have to be gentle. 179 00:08:53,065 --> 00:08:54,934 For example, if you're in the forest, 180 00:08:55,067 --> 00:08:57,236 and it's really hot and dry conditions, 181 00:08:57,370 --> 00:08:59,238 we can use the PSD 182 00:08:59,372 --> 00:09:01,574 and hopefully keep the fire on the ground level. 183 00:09:02,808 --> 00:09:04,443 So, you can see here, 184 00:09:04,577 --> 00:09:07,113 just from the low-intensity fire 185 00:09:07,246 --> 00:09:09,315 that's just come through, 186 00:09:09,448 --> 00:09:11,417 all it's done is burnt off the dead grass. 187 00:09:11,551 --> 00:09:13,786 Real low impact. 188 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,889 You know, even this isn't being killed. 189 00:09:21,661 --> 00:09:23,296 [engine humming] 190 00:09:23,429 --> 00:09:26,432 So, you can see from the burn here yesterday, 191 00:09:26,566 --> 00:09:28,134 very low severity. 192 00:09:28,267 --> 00:09:31,804 You know, it's not your typical image of a forest fire, 193 00:09:31,938 --> 00:09:34,173 where everything's black from top to bottom 194 00:09:34,307 --> 00:09:36,208 as far as the eye can see. 195 00:09:36,342 --> 00:09:37,643 Three weeks to a month, 196 00:09:37,777 --> 00:09:40,012 the burn we did here 197 00:09:40,146 --> 00:09:42,715 will be green like you wouldn't believe. 198 00:09:43,482 --> 00:09:44,550 We saw elk from the air, 199 00:09:44,684 --> 00:09:45,785 we saw turkeys, 200 00:09:45,918 --> 00:09:49,188 we saw white-tailed deer running around, 201 00:09:49,322 --> 00:09:52,191 so we know they live here. 202 00:09:52,325 --> 00:09:54,393 It's gonna be a much better place for them to live 203 00:09:54,527 --> 00:09:57,663 once it greens back up. 204 00:10:02,935 --> 00:10:05,171 It basically resets the ecosystem 205 00:10:05,304 --> 00:10:08,307 to where it always likes to start from... 206 00:10:09,508 --> 00:10:12,712 ...and the regrowth is just amazing. 207 00:10:12,845 --> 00:10:14,213 Within a few days, 208 00:10:14,347 --> 00:10:16,515 you can see the grass is starting to regrow. 209 00:10:16,649 --> 00:10:18,918 Within six weeks, 210 00:10:19,051 --> 00:10:21,754 lush and green, blowing in the wind, 211 00:10:21,887 --> 00:10:22,922 there's wildflowers, 212 00:10:23,055 --> 00:10:25,458 there's insects, butterflies... 213 00:10:28,394 --> 00:10:30,629 I call it my happy place. 214 00:10:34,567 --> 00:10:39,872 I think people need to accept the symbiotic nature of fire. 215 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,409 Indigenous people have always used fire, 216 00:10:43,542 --> 00:10:45,878 and we need to bring that back. 217 00:10:48,881 --> 00:10:50,750 A hundred years of fire suppression 218 00:10:50,883 --> 00:10:54,620 has made the forests more and more dangerous, 219 00:10:54,754 --> 00:10:57,456 and climate change is making it worse. 220 00:10:58,691 --> 00:11:01,761 We want to get cultural burning back on the land 221 00:11:01,894 --> 00:11:03,562 so we can burn it when we want 222 00:11:03,696 --> 00:11:05,531 to make the communities safe, 223 00:11:05,664 --> 00:11:08,801 or else catastrophic fire will happen. 224 00:11:25,785 --> 00:11:27,620 [Mike] A fire has started 225 00:11:27,753 --> 00:11:28,654 in the northeast corner of the province, 226 00:11:28,788 --> 00:11:32,324 a place called Donnie Creek. 227 00:11:35,761 --> 00:11:39,398 It's running five to ten kilometres a day. 228 00:11:40,599 --> 00:11:42,935 We're seeing flames 229 00:11:43,069 --> 00:11:46,205 probably 300 feet above treetops. 230 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:48,674 It's a beast. 231 00:11:56,215 --> 00:11:58,284 It's probably 232 00:11:58,417 --> 00:12:00,286 somewhere in the neighbourhood of 18 hours' drive 233 00:12:00,419 --> 00:12:01,387 for me to get there. 234 00:12:02,822 --> 00:12:05,624 My role will be a fire behaviour analyst, 235 00:12:05,758 --> 00:12:06,625 trying to look at fire behaviour 236 00:12:06,759 --> 00:12:08,994 and learn its quirks 237 00:12:09,128 --> 00:12:11,964 and get some sense of its personality. 238 00:12:15,434 --> 00:12:16,502 When it's this big, 239 00:12:16,635 --> 00:12:18,437 there's no way we're gonna win this one 240 00:12:18,571 --> 00:12:19,939 in a short time frame, 241 00:12:20,072 --> 00:12:21,607 but we might be able to figure out 242 00:12:21,740 --> 00:12:23,943 how to control where it goes. 243 00:12:26,078 --> 00:12:28,547 So we're calling in crews from all over the province 244 00:12:28,681 --> 00:12:32,451 to come assist on this one. 245 00:12:48,534 --> 00:12:50,903 My name's Ryan Pascal. 246 00:12:51,036 --> 00:12:53,639 I've been the Salish Nation Unit Crew Supervisor 247 00:12:53,773 --> 00:12:55,941 for 36 years. 248 00:12:56,842 --> 00:12:58,711 The Salish Unit Crew 249 00:12:58,844 --> 00:12:59,678 is an all-First Nations unit crew, 250 00:12:59,812 --> 00:13:02,948 uh, the only one left in BC. 251 00:13:04,483 --> 00:13:05,684 I'm 66 now. 252 00:13:05,818 --> 00:13:06,819 I've been here all my life. 253 00:13:06,952 --> 00:13:11,257 We're on unceded territory of the Lil'wat Nation. 254 00:13:16,862 --> 00:13:17,763 Hey, guys. 255 00:13:17,897 --> 00:13:19,431 [others] Boss. 256 00:13:19,565 --> 00:13:21,033 What's for lunch, lunchtime? 257 00:13:21,167 --> 00:13:22,935 A peanut butter and honey sandwich. 258 00:13:23,068 --> 00:13:24,770 Oh yeah? [chuckles] 259 00:13:24,904 --> 00:13:27,106 When they started unit crews, 260 00:13:27,239 --> 00:13:28,874 they asked me if I wanted to run one, 261 00:13:29,008 --> 00:13:32,344 and we got a bunch of young guys in the gymnasium, 262 00:13:32,478 --> 00:13:33,746 and we started training, 263 00:13:33,879 --> 00:13:35,347 and they said 264 00:13:35,481 --> 00:13:37,650 it was up to me to pick the crew... 265 00:13:38,984 --> 00:13:40,753 so I made sure I did not, one, 266 00:13:40,886 --> 00:13:43,422 pick a family member or relative. 267 00:13:43,556 --> 00:13:45,357 I just picked, you know, 268 00:13:45,491 --> 00:13:47,626 I just looked at the guys, how they got along, 269 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,061 their work ethic. 270 00:13:49,195 --> 00:13:50,696 Uh, you know, it was so good. 271 00:13:50,830 --> 00:13:55,568 This picture here is of the original Salish crew, 272 00:13:55,701 --> 00:13:56,769 the first 20, 273 00:13:56,902 --> 00:13:57,736 and we're all wearing coveralls. 274 00:13:57,870 --> 00:14:00,573 There was no reds and blue pants then, 275 00:14:00,706 --> 00:14:01,907 it was all coveralls. 276 00:14:02,041 --> 00:14:04,844 That's the first uniform they gave us. 277 00:14:09,281 --> 00:14:12,718 I always think about the Garnet Fire in '94, 278 00:14:12,851 --> 00:14:14,787 a fire that had it out for us, 279 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,155 and we were running from the fire 280 00:14:16,288 --> 00:14:18,924 for, like, a week straight, every day. 281 00:14:21,293 --> 00:14:24,096 I remember one of the crew members calling me, 282 00:14:24,230 --> 00:14:26,098 he said, "Get out, the fire is coming." 283 00:14:26,232 --> 00:14:27,633 So we started heading out, 284 00:14:27,766 --> 00:14:31,604 and some of the other crew was farther down the cat-guard, 285 00:14:31,737 --> 00:14:32,738 and I called them and said, 286 00:14:32,871 --> 00:14:34,940 "We gotta get out. Go back to the landing, then." 287 00:14:35,074 --> 00:14:37,243 So we were running back, and we round a corner, 288 00:14:37,376 --> 00:14:39,945 and there's 30-foot flames on each side of the guard, 289 00:14:40,079 --> 00:14:41,447 and we ran right through. 290 00:14:41,914 --> 00:14:43,682 Made it to the landing, 291 00:14:43,816 --> 00:14:45,851 and ten of my guys were missing. 292 00:14:48,888 --> 00:14:49,755 I was scared. 293 00:14:49,889 --> 00:14:52,491 I didn't know where they were, 294 00:14:52,625 --> 00:14:54,360 and then finally, one of the Operations guys 295 00:14:54,493 --> 00:14:55,527 was in a helicopter, 296 00:14:55,661 --> 00:14:57,429 and he called me on the radio and said, 297 00:14:57,563 --> 00:14:59,598 "Your ten guys are safe. They're in the main burn. 298 00:14:59,732 --> 00:15:01,267 They're walking towards you," 299 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,802 and I was standing there watching 'em walk, 300 00:15:03,936 --> 00:15:06,305 walk out of the smoke, and I was crying. 301 00:15:07,072 --> 00:15:07,840 And I never forget that. 302 00:15:07,973 --> 00:15:09,775 It's always in the back of my mind, 303 00:15:09,908 --> 00:15:11,844 the Garnet Fire. 304 00:15:11,977 --> 00:15:13,779 That was terrifying. 305 00:15:16,115 --> 00:15:17,883 It was at that point 306 00:15:18,017 --> 00:15:21,020 I made it a point to know every family member, 307 00:15:21,153 --> 00:15:24,490 because I had 20 wives thinking about them at home, 308 00:15:24,623 --> 00:15:25,524 to get back to, 309 00:15:25,658 --> 00:15:27,226 and I had 53 kids, 310 00:15:27,359 --> 00:15:30,396 and I made it a point to know all their names. 311 00:15:30,529 --> 00:15:33,966 That way... and that was always in the back of my mind. 312 00:15:34,099 --> 00:15:36,335 Those are stories you never bring home, 313 00:15:36,468 --> 00:15:37,670 you never tell. 314 00:15:37,803 --> 00:15:38,737 Yeah. 315 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,810 There was 16 all-First Nations unit crews, 316 00:15:44,943 --> 00:15:46,812 and now there's only one left. 317 00:15:49,281 --> 00:15:50,015 I think one of the reasons 318 00:15:50,149 --> 00:15:53,252 is because of the hiring process. 319 00:15:53,385 --> 00:15:55,888 They made the bootcamps where you had to travel so far, 320 00:15:56,021 --> 00:15:57,990 and some First Nations communities 321 00:15:58,123 --> 00:15:59,925 are kind of isolated, 322 00:16:00,059 --> 00:16:01,827 so I think it's got a lot to do with that. 323 00:16:01,961 --> 00:16:02,928 -Looks good. 324 00:16:03,062 --> 00:16:06,932 A lot of it was due to the fitness test. 325 00:16:07,066 --> 00:16:11,203 When you don't pass the test, you lose your position. 326 00:16:11,337 --> 00:16:13,439 It's really tough to do. 327 00:16:13,572 --> 00:16:16,241 I mean, I failed it for the first time this year, 328 00:16:16,375 --> 00:16:18,711 so there's a big change in the guard 329 00:16:18,844 --> 00:16:20,612 on the unit crew now. 330 00:16:21,013 --> 00:16:22,915 It was hard for the whole crew, 331 00:16:23,048 --> 00:16:26,452 because he's been our crew supe for 30-plus years, 332 00:16:26,585 --> 00:16:29,455 and I currently took the role just this past spring. 333 00:16:29,588 --> 00:16:30,456 Yeah. Yeah. 334 00:16:30,589 --> 00:16:33,258 [Matt] It's big boots to fill, for sure. 335 00:16:33,392 --> 00:16:36,261 He's been the living legend of the Salish Unit Crew, 336 00:16:36,395 --> 00:16:38,397 but it's been an easy transition 337 00:16:38,530 --> 00:16:39,031 just because he's been shaping me 338 00:16:39,164 --> 00:16:40,899 for the last five years. 339 00:16:42,101 --> 00:16:46,105 I want to help my community grow again. 340 00:16:46,238 --> 00:16:48,374 That's, like, such a big passion of mine, 341 00:16:48,507 --> 00:16:51,877 is to get First Nations fire-fighting. 342 00:16:52,010 --> 00:16:53,812 How long is the drive to Donnie Creek? 343 00:16:53,946 --> 00:16:56,048 Uh, about 14 hours. 344 00:16:57,049 --> 00:16:58,784 [Ryan] Matt is a great kid. 345 00:16:58,917 --> 00:17:00,052 He's really smart. 346 00:17:00,185 --> 00:17:02,921 He's a real good teacher, a way better teacher than I am, 347 00:17:03,055 --> 00:17:05,724 and he can really talk. 348 00:17:08,127 --> 00:17:10,596 Think that's everything. 349 00:17:10,729 --> 00:17:12,097 Hope so. 350 00:17:12,231 --> 00:17:13,899 [Ryan] When they were rolling out the gate, 351 00:17:14,032 --> 00:17:14,833 going to a fire the first time 352 00:17:14,967 --> 00:17:15,968 when I wasn't crew supe, 353 00:17:16,101 --> 00:17:18,003 I thought it was really gonna bother me, 354 00:17:18,137 --> 00:17:20,973 and I watched 'em ride out of the gate 355 00:17:21,106 --> 00:17:22,307 on their trucks, 356 00:17:22,441 --> 00:17:23,809 and I said, "It's not even bothering me." 357 00:17:23,942 --> 00:17:27,413 Maybe it was time. 358 00:17:27,546 --> 00:17:30,616 And I know he would keep the crew safe. 359 00:17:33,485 --> 00:17:37,156 [Matt] We've been called to the Donnie Creek wildfire. 360 00:17:37,289 --> 00:17:41,560 It's a huge fire, the biggest I've ever been on. 361 00:17:43,362 --> 00:17:44,863 We'll be sharing a lot of workload 362 00:17:44,997 --> 00:17:46,765 with all the other crews, 363 00:17:46,899 --> 00:17:48,667 and if everybody's controlling their piece, 364 00:17:48,801 --> 00:17:50,903 hopefully we could get this fire under control. 365 00:17:56,742 --> 00:17:59,511 [Mike] In the Ignition Specialist role, 366 00:17:59,645 --> 00:18:02,314 there's five or six of us provincially, 367 00:18:02,448 --> 00:18:05,451 so it's a very limited asset. 368 00:18:06,285 --> 00:18:07,519 I know that I'm getting 369 00:18:07,653 --> 00:18:08,954 to the twilight years of my career, 370 00:18:09,087 --> 00:18:11,390 so I requested 371 00:18:11,523 --> 00:18:13,625 that I would like to take on an apprentice. 372 00:18:14,159 --> 00:18:16,061 [Morgan] I was thrilled when he asked me 373 00:18:16,195 --> 00:18:20,866 if I wanted to be his trainee for his last couple years. 374 00:18:20,999 --> 00:18:22,835 I recently had a kid, and then, 375 00:18:22,968 --> 00:18:25,170 some of the conversations I was having with my wife 376 00:18:25,304 --> 00:18:26,071 was, you know, maybe I'll take it easy 377 00:18:26,205 --> 00:18:28,040 on these next few years, 378 00:18:28,173 --> 00:18:29,908 be around for the family a little bit more, 379 00:18:30,042 --> 00:18:31,243 but the family supported it, 380 00:18:31,376 --> 00:18:35,314 and Mike is a legend, and I just couldn't pass it up. 381 00:18:36,014 --> 00:18:40,853 [Mike] We synced minds like you wouldn't believe. 382 00:18:40,986 --> 00:18:43,422 It honestly has to be one of the best moves 383 00:18:43,555 --> 00:18:46,959 I ever made within my career. 384 00:18:51,196 --> 00:18:53,565 [news report] BC has never experienced a fire 385 00:18:53,699 --> 00:18:54,733 this enormous. 386 00:18:54,867 --> 00:18:56,401 [news report] The massive Donnie Creek Wildfire 387 00:18:56,535 --> 00:18:58,837 continues to burn out of control. 388 00:18:58,971 --> 00:19:00,672 [news report] BC has now passed a grim milestone 389 00:19:00,806 --> 00:19:02,074 in its wildfires. 390 00:19:02,207 --> 00:19:04,042 [news report] Evacuation orders and alerts remain in effect. 391 00:19:04,176 --> 00:19:07,846 [news report] It's now grown to more than 520,000 hectares. 392 00:19:07,980 --> 00:19:10,782 [news report] It's now one of the largest ever on record. 393 00:19:13,218 --> 00:19:15,187 [Mike] When we got the call to go to Donnie, 394 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:16,121 I called Morgan, and I said, "Well, 395 00:19:16,255 --> 00:19:18,056 time to put your big-boy pants on, 396 00:19:18,190 --> 00:19:21,460 because I've decided 397 00:19:21,593 --> 00:19:23,762 that you're in the front seat this year, 398 00:19:23,896 --> 00:19:25,497 and I'm just gonna be in the back." 399 00:19:29,167 --> 00:19:31,403 [rotors beating] 400 00:19:35,541 --> 00:19:39,044 [Morgan] I've never seen any fire that large. 401 00:19:39,178 --> 00:19:40,245 It was unreal. 402 00:19:43,715 --> 00:19:46,218 [Mike] I've been dealing with fire so long, 403 00:19:46,351 --> 00:19:47,920 I just looked at it, 404 00:19:48,053 --> 00:19:51,857 and I was just in awe of Mother Nature's power. 405 00:19:59,565 --> 00:20:02,100 It wants to do what it wants to do, 406 00:20:02,234 --> 00:20:04,069 and it's very challenging 407 00:20:04,202 --> 00:20:05,637 for us to try and corral it 408 00:20:05,771 --> 00:20:07,172 in that sort of fire behaviour... 409 00:20:09,208 --> 00:20:12,477 'cause if those fire conditions went running that aggressively, 410 00:20:12,611 --> 00:20:15,647 there's virtually nothing we can do. 411 00:20:15,781 --> 00:20:18,083 There is no air tanker in the world 412 00:20:18,217 --> 00:20:21,687 that's big enough to put that out. 413 00:20:23,155 --> 00:20:25,791 [Morgan] The perimeter of the fire 414 00:20:25,924 --> 00:20:27,426 is over 800 kilometres. 415 00:20:27,559 --> 00:20:28,794 We don't even have enough resources 416 00:20:28,927 --> 00:20:30,162 to get all the way around something like that, 417 00:20:30,295 --> 00:20:33,198 much less suppress the entire fire, 418 00:20:33,332 --> 00:20:35,100 so we're prioritizing areas of the fire 419 00:20:35,233 --> 00:20:37,436 where we can have success. 420 00:20:37,569 --> 00:20:38,604 It's shifting your mind, 421 00:20:38,737 --> 00:20:41,106 knowing that we're not going to put this fire out, 422 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:45,577 and we just have to try to manage it the best we can. 423 00:20:52,618 --> 00:20:55,120 [Mike] We gotta try and lay down a line of fire 424 00:20:55,253 --> 00:20:57,856 that connects these two points. 425 00:20:57,990 --> 00:21:00,125 The distance from here all the way around to here 426 00:21:00,259 --> 00:21:02,094 is 50 kilometres. 427 00:21:03,295 --> 00:21:04,196 We wanna try and prevent the fire 428 00:21:04,329 --> 00:21:06,632 from progressing south, 429 00:21:06,765 --> 00:21:09,635 where most of the valleys are that are under threat, 430 00:21:09,768 --> 00:21:11,970 so we're gonna undertake what we call 431 00:21:12,104 --> 00:21:13,372 "ignition missions." 432 00:21:13,505 --> 00:21:15,173 The objective is to find something 433 00:21:15,307 --> 00:21:17,142 we can tie off from a river, 434 00:21:17,276 --> 00:21:20,312 a highway that we can burn off from. 435 00:21:20,445 --> 00:21:22,714 We will then lay fire on that line 436 00:21:22,848 --> 00:21:26,351 to get it to go back into the existing wildfire. 437 00:21:34,226 --> 00:21:36,395 It's getting dark, and we can't fly at night, 438 00:21:36,528 --> 00:21:38,330 so we're gonna send in a ground crew 439 00:21:38,463 --> 00:21:40,365 to do some burning overnight, 440 00:21:40,499 --> 00:21:42,267 so that when morning comes, 441 00:21:42,401 --> 00:21:45,304 we should be ready for the big burn tomorrow. 442 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:48,907 This is Salish One. 443 00:21:49,041 --> 00:21:50,776 We're just arriving at the site now, 444 00:21:50,909 --> 00:21:55,047 and we'll be burning in about 30 minutes. 445 00:21:55,180 --> 00:21:56,214 We showed up at the fire, 446 00:21:56,348 --> 00:21:58,183 and we recognized what we needed to burn. 447 00:21:58,317 --> 00:22:00,185 We had to figure out our A to B, 448 00:22:00,318 --> 00:22:01,586 so where we're gonna start 449 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,188 and where we're gonna end for this burn. 450 00:22:03,321 --> 00:22:04,122 Head towards the road, 451 00:22:04,256 --> 00:22:06,258 and then turn into the next field 452 00:22:06,391 --> 00:22:07,793 heading downhill. 453 00:22:10,028 --> 00:22:11,430 [Matt] Our first task is to protect 454 00:22:11,563 --> 00:22:12,364 some oil and gas infrastructure 455 00:22:12,497 --> 00:22:15,067 by burning the fuel that's around it. 456 00:22:16,001 --> 00:22:17,102 We're pushing in a guard from the top here, 457 00:22:17,235 --> 00:22:18,270 it's working down. 458 00:22:18,403 --> 00:22:22,474 Uh, it's a couple spots there across their guard, 459 00:22:22,607 --> 00:22:25,143 as well, we're gonna try to capture and burn off. 460 00:22:25,277 --> 00:22:27,446 [Matt] I love what I get to do. 461 00:22:27,579 --> 00:22:29,481 The crew is a family, 462 00:22:29,614 --> 00:22:31,249 and we also have families from the communities 463 00:22:31,383 --> 00:22:32,150 on the crew as well, 464 00:22:32,284 --> 00:22:35,887 my brother, three of my cousins, 465 00:22:36,021 --> 00:22:38,590 I take their safety very important. 466 00:22:42,728 --> 00:22:44,096 The long pink you have. 467 00:22:46,398 --> 00:22:50,001 We were called in to use drip torches 468 00:22:50,135 --> 00:22:52,170 because it's more precise and you have more control 469 00:22:52,304 --> 00:22:53,638 than, say, something like a heli-torch, 470 00:22:53,772 --> 00:22:56,308 just dropping flames from above. 471 00:22:56,441 --> 00:22:58,243 You can't use the helicopters at night, anyways. 472 00:22:58,376 --> 00:23:01,646 Nighttime's a great opportunity, 473 00:23:01,780 --> 00:23:04,816 because the heat's down, the winds are usually shifted, 474 00:23:04,950 --> 00:23:08,153 so right now, it's in our favour. 475 00:23:08,286 --> 00:23:09,187 [radio crackles] 476 00:23:09,321 --> 00:23:10,889 Yeah, go ahead. 477 00:23:15,394 --> 00:23:17,229 [Matt] Okay, copy. 478 00:23:19,931 --> 00:23:21,266 [Matt] It's always a little challenging 479 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:22,334 working in the dark. 480 00:23:22,467 --> 00:23:24,636 You're walking on uneven ground, 481 00:23:24,770 --> 00:23:25,537 and it's dark, but the fire's bright, 482 00:23:25,670 --> 00:23:28,373 so you can't see where you're going. 483 00:23:28,507 --> 00:23:31,109 It's dangerous work. 484 00:23:34,679 --> 00:23:37,349 It is 3:40 a.m. right now. 485 00:23:37,482 --> 00:23:39,651 We are burning off 486 00:23:39,785 --> 00:23:42,921 and thickening the guard for the morning shift. 487 00:23:44,256 --> 00:23:45,090 It's looking sweet. 488 00:23:45,223 --> 00:23:46,224 I think we'll be giving them good product, 489 00:23:46,358 --> 00:23:48,460 so, happy with that. 490 00:23:51,997 --> 00:23:53,465 Through my career, 491 00:23:53,598 --> 00:23:55,367 I used to struggle quite hard, right, 492 00:23:55,500 --> 00:23:58,403 with any structure I lost, 493 00:23:58,537 --> 00:24:00,906 or any ground that you start to lose, 494 00:24:01,039 --> 00:24:03,809 but then I noticed if I was too emotional, 495 00:24:03,942 --> 00:24:05,644 I stopped making the proper calls, 496 00:24:05,777 --> 00:24:07,846 and the proper call's always gonna be 497 00:24:07,979 --> 00:24:11,850 pull my guys out if it's not safe to action. 498 00:24:13,518 --> 00:24:15,887 We don't have to win every battle, 499 00:24:16,021 --> 00:24:19,591 but we always have to make it home at night, 500 00:24:19,724 --> 00:24:22,394 so I just had to let the stress of a little bit of loss 501 00:24:22,527 --> 00:24:24,429 roll off my shoulders, 502 00:24:24,563 --> 00:24:27,632 and then I could make proper judgement calls again. 503 00:24:28,500 --> 00:24:31,102 Yeah, go ahead. 504 00:24:33,205 --> 00:24:35,106 Just behind the cat there. 505 00:25:12,444 --> 00:25:14,379 We had to bring in a camp 506 00:25:14,512 --> 00:25:16,815 due to the level of activity here. 507 00:25:16,948 --> 00:25:19,050 We have all our facilities here. 508 00:25:19,184 --> 00:25:19,851 We have showers. 509 00:25:19,985 --> 00:25:22,821 We have accommodation trailers, 510 00:25:22,954 --> 00:25:25,490 the kitchen trailer, the catering staff. 511 00:25:25,624 --> 00:25:30,929 We also have office trailers, I.T. trailers... 512 00:25:31,062 --> 00:25:33,298 A lot of the time, we might be moving camps 513 00:25:33,431 --> 00:25:35,600 from one fire directly into another fire, 514 00:25:35,734 --> 00:25:37,435 especially in years where there's fires 515 00:25:37,569 --> 00:25:39,771 here, there, and everywhere. 516 00:25:39,905 --> 00:25:42,340 The camp comes down, and three days later, 517 00:25:42,474 --> 00:25:44,943 it's up and running in another location. 518 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,162 [Morgan] So, we decided to go with the heli-torch 519 00:26:04,296 --> 00:26:04,930 on this burn, 520 00:26:05,063 --> 00:26:06,431 because it's a larger ignition 521 00:26:06,565 --> 00:26:08,800 so it's for a really quick ignition. 522 00:26:08,934 --> 00:26:11,136 It's to get the intensities up high 523 00:26:11,269 --> 00:26:12,137 so you have some control, 524 00:26:12,270 --> 00:26:14,673 so it's good in the boreal fuel types 525 00:26:14,806 --> 00:26:16,441 and the dense black spruce stands. 526 00:26:16,575 --> 00:26:18,543 [Mike] It is a product 527 00:26:18,677 --> 00:26:20,445 you probably do not wanna get on your skin. 528 00:26:20,578 --> 00:26:24,115 We have goggles. We have aprons. 529 00:26:24,249 --> 00:26:27,552 Lots and lots of safety issues around doing this sort of stuff. 530 00:26:27,686 --> 00:26:31,056 This thing is gonna be leap-frogging ahead of us 531 00:26:31,189 --> 00:26:34,926 so that it's nowhere near where we're burning. 532 00:26:36,194 --> 00:26:38,730 The heli-torch is inherently dangerous 533 00:26:38,863 --> 00:26:40,332 just because the fact 534 00:26:40,465 --> 00:26:43,835 you have a 45-gallon drum of fuel 535 00:26:43,969 --> 00:26:45,804 hanging below a helicopter. 536 00:26:45,937 --> 00:26:49,207 It's inherently risky, 537 00:26:49,341 --> 00:26:50,508 but everything we do 538 00:26:50,642 --> 00:26:52,577 is careful and methodical, 539 00:26:52,711 --> 00:26:54,512 and that's how we can get this done 540 00:26:54,646 --> 00:26:57,849 without having any injuries. 541 00:27:00,852 --> 00:27:03,154 [Morgan] We'll have a three-person mixing crew 542 00:27:03,288 --> 00:27:05,390 that will fuel up the 45-gallon drums, uh, 543 00:27:05,523 --> 00:27:07,525 mix in the gelling agents... 544 00:27:10,362 --> 00:27:11,830 ...hook up the helicopter 545 00:27:11,963 --> 00:27:14,699 as it goes to do its next mission. 546 00:27:16,301 --> 00:27:20,839 It's a pretty small crew for such a big mission. 547 00:27:30,749 --> 00:27:31,783 [Mike] We only burn 548 00:27:31,916 --> 00:27:33,952 when the weather conditions are just right, 549 00:27:34,085 --> 00:27:35,920 so we have to rely heavily 550 00:27:36,054 --> 00:27:38,289 on our weather forecasters and their intel 551 00:27:38,423 --> 00:27:42,060 before we start doing anything large. 552 00:27:51,202 --> 00:27:53,071 I try to have a good understanding 553 00:27:53,204 --> 00:27:54,906 of what they're doing, what they're trying to do, 554 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,741 what their challenges are of the day, 555 00:27:56,875 --> 00:27:58,877 so I can try to give them the information 556 00:27:59,010 --> 00:28:00,578 that will help them make decisions. 557 00:28:00,712 --> 00:28:03,048 We're gonna bring some cloud 558 00:28:03,181 --> 00:28:05,550 into the north third of our region 559 00:28:05,683 --> 00:28:06,618 by the end of the day today, 560 00:28:06,751 --> 00:28:08,953 but for the most part, think about 561 00:28:09,087 --> 00:28:12,590 just one more very hot and very dry day. 562 00:28:12,724 --> 00:28:15,126 So when we look closely on here, 563 00:28:15,260 --> 00:28:16,995 we can see that these points here, 564 00:28:17,128 --> 00:28:20,065 where we have this streamer of smoke coming off, 565 00:28:20,198 --> 00:28:22,467 those are the fires that we have in our region. 566 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,403 I try to keep the people in the Ops seat 567 00:28:25,537 --> 00:28:26,571 up to date 568 00:28:26,704 --> 00:28:27,739 with the freshest weather information 569 00:28:27,872 --> 00:28:28,640 through the day... 570 00:28:28,773 --> 00:28:30,675 We got Tabernacle, ridge top... 571 00:28:30,809 --> 00:28:31,576 -Yeah. -...gusting 46. 572 00:28:31,710 --> 00:28:33,745 Okay. 573 00:28:33,878 --> 00:28:35,780 [Jesse] ...to confirm whether it's following the story 574 00:28:35,914 --> 00:28:36,681 that I told them in the morning. 575 00:28:36,815 --> 00:28:39,818 So far, the winds are not as strong 576 00:28:39,951 --> 00:28:41,486 as I thought they were gonna be. 577 00:28:41,619 --> 00:28:43,922 Thank god. [laughing] 578 00:28:44,055 --> 00:28:45,156 Yeah, I love this one. 579 00:28:45,290 --> 00:28:48,760 It's just an old-school black-and-white weather chart. 580 00:28:48,893 --> 00:28:49,527 When folks ask me, 581 00:28:49,661 --> 00:28:52,197 "What do you think about this," 582 00:28:52,330 --> 00:28:54,666 like, "flashy, colourful weather loop?" 583 00:28:54,799 --> 00:28:58,670 I say, "Well, I kinda like this one, still, better." 584 00:28:58,803 --> 00:29:01,940 All the little squiggles tell a story 585 00:29:02,073 --> 00:29:06,311 that help me get a better idea of what is gonna happen. 586 00:29:06,444 --> 00:29:08,713 Every day is a puzzle... 587 00:29:08,847 --> 00:29:12,717 a long series of mistakes and successes. 588 00:29:12,851 --> 00:29:14,252 [laughing] 589 00:29:19,324 --> 00:29:20,859 Hey, Len, am I stealing somebody's lunch? 590 00:29:20,992 --> 00:29:22,160 Just peanut butter? 591 00:29:22,293 --> 00:29:25,163 -Oh, that is mine. Oh, yeah! -[laughter] 592 00:29:25,296 --> 00:29:27,499 'Cause it got my marmalade on it. 593 00:29:27,632 --> 00:29:28,800 Oh, my god. 594 00:29:28,933 --> 00:29:30,635 I would've been gone. 595 00:29:30,769 --> 00:29:31,836 Oh, my god. 596 00:29:31,970 --> 00:29:35,240 I took some marmalade from the A&W. 597 00:29:35,373 --> 00:29:36,875 [laughing] 598 00:29:37,008 --> 00:29:40,578 The fire doesn't wait for us, so... 599 00:29:40,712 --> 00:29:44,382 we just, yeah, make it and go when we can. 600 00:29:44,516 --> 00:29:46,050 I like to go heavy on the peanut butter, 601 00:29:46,184 --> 00:29:47,652 because it's the delicious part. 602 00:29:50,054 --> 00:29:51,723 Okay, I think it's safe to go ahead of me 603 00:29:51,856 --> 00:29:53,725 now that all the spiderwebs are gone. 604 00:29:53,858 --> 00:29:57,362 [laughter] 605 00:29:57,495 --> 00:29:59,664 [Matt] It's been a lot of hard, long days. 606 00:29:59,798 --> 00:30:02,367 We're tired, but we're happy. 607 00:30:02,500 --> 00:30:04,736 Like, we're working together very well. 608 00:30:04,869 --> 00:30:06,271 It's been really good. 609 00:30:18,716 --> 00:30:19,784 Yeah, for sure. 610 00:30:26,891 --> 00:30:29,127 [Mike] The drum's suspended under the helicopter, 611 00:30:29,260 --> 00:30:32,463 and the pilot has control of the trigger, 612 00:30:32,597 --> 00:30:34,766 and when we're talking to him on the radio, 613 00:30:34,899 --> 00:30:37,535 we'll tell him when to drop and when not to. 614 00:30:41,005 --> 00:30:42,073 Slow down a little bit. 615 00:30:42,941 --> 00:30:43,775 [Mike] Every one of these heli-torches 616 00:30:43,908 --> 00:30:46,377 is homemade. 617 00:30:46,511 --> 00:30:48,947 Every of them's absolutely different. 618 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,616 Helicopter geniuses, pilots and engineers, 619 00:30:51,749 --> 00:30:53,718 they build them in the hangars over the winter months. 620 00:30:56,955 --> 00:30:58,656 We were a kilometre away, 621 00:30:58,790 --> 00:31:01,159 you could already feel the radiant heat from it 622 00:31:01,292 --> 00:31:02,660 coming through the bubble of the helicopter. 623 00:31:02,794 --> 00:31:08,466 We'll get in-drafting of 60, 70 kilometres an hour 624 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,669 from that fire sucking in so much oxygen, 625 00:31:11,803 --> 00:31:13,972 and once we got close, 626 00:31:14,105 --> 00:31:16,674 we could actually feel the fire in-drafting, 627 00:31:16,808 --> 00:31:18,476 and the pilot told us 628 00:31:18,610 --> 00:31:21,679 he could feel the helicopter being sucked in. 629 00:31:25,950 --> 00:31:28,519 -Yep. -That's it. 630 00:31:28,653 --> 00:31:29,787 [Mike] New pilots coming in, 631 00:31:29,921 --> 00:31:33,358 a lot of them don't want to be doing heli-torching, 632 00:31:33,491 --> 00:31:37,996 and it is a dying art in the aviation industry, 633 00:31:38,129 --> 00:31:39,831 'cause it's pretty risky 634 00:31:39,964 --> 00:31:43,268 when you have a 45-gallon drum of gasoline 635 00:31:43,401 --> 00:31:46,604 hanging under the helicopter. 636 00:31:51,943 --> 00:31:53,811 [Morgan] Flying in those conditions, 637 00:31:53,945 --> 00:31:56,281 it can be really unnerving, 638 00:31:56,414 --> 00:31:58,049 but I have a lot of trust and faith 639 00:31:58,182 --> 00:31:58,683 in the pilots that we're flying with. 640 00:31:58,816 --> 00:32:00,985 They're very experienced. 641 00:32:01,119 --> 00:32:02,820 If they're uncomfortable with it, 642 00:32:02,954 --> 00:32:04,188 they're not gonna fly in it, 643 00:32:04,322 --> 00:32:05,857 as well as, you know, with Mike and myself, 644 00:32:05,990 --> 00:32:07,992 one "no" is a no-go, 645 00:32:08,126 --> 00:32:09,961 so although it's unnerving, 646 00:32:10,094 --> 00:32:12,897 we're not putting ourselves in any unnecessary danger. 647 00:32:13,031 --> 00:32:14,832 You're always thinking of, 648 00:32:14,966 --> 00:32:16,834 "Okay, if something goes wrong here, 649 00:32:16,968 --> 00:32:19,070 like, what are our options?" 650 00:32:29,814 --> 00:32:31,749 [Mike] We're running parallel to the road here 651 00:32:31,883 --> 00:32:34,852 all the way down to the end. 652 00:32:34,986 --> 00:32:36,054 Everything's burning quite nicely. 653 00:32:36,187 --> 00:32:42,160 It's, um, in-drafting into the main body of the fire. 654 00:32:42,293 --> 00:32:45,296 I was building confidence as I was going through the burn. 655 00:32:49,701 --> 00:32:51,602 Good work. 656 00:32:51,736 --> 00:32:53,705 [Morgan] If I started, you know, to doubt myself, 657 00:32:53,838 --> 00:32:56,507 or question what I was doing, if I was doing the right thing, 658 00:32:56,641 --> 00:32:57,875 I would just look in the back seat, 659 00:32:58,009 --> 00:32:59,510 and Mike would give me a nod. 660 00:32:59,644 --> 00:33:01,546 It'd have been a totally different experience for me 661 00:33:01,679 --> 00:33:04,482 if Mike was not sitting in the back seat. 662 00:33:09,921 --> 00:33:11,823 [Morgan] Yeah. 663 00:33:17,528 --> 00:33:19,430 [Mike] We had two helicopters staged there, 664 00:33:19,564 --> 00:33:23,034 and they both had heli-torches attached. 665 00:33:23,167 --> 00:33:25,236 We had a three-person ground crew 666 00:33:25,370 --> 00:33:28,439 assisting us with the trailer that would run down the road, 667 00:33:28,573 --> 00:33:29,307 and when the pilot 668 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,209 was getting close to being empty, 669 00:33:31,342 --> 00:33:33,811 he would tell us to mix another barrel. 670 00:33:42,854 --> 00:33:44,422 [Mike] The crew would mix it. 671 00:33:44,555 --> 00:33:45,957 We'd come in with the helicopter, 672 00:33:46,090 --> 00:33:48,893 they'd switch the full out for the empty. 673 00:33:49,027 --> 00:33:50,728 One, two, three! 674 00:33:52,029 --> 00:33:54,665 Open! 675 00:33:58,236 --> 00:34:00,638 [Mike] The crew would run down the road further. 676 00:34:00,772 --> 00:34:02,273 He would keep burning, 677 00:34:02,407 --> 00:34:05,543 and they would just hop-scotch along. 678 00:34:23,061 --> 00:34:24,195 [Mike] Unfortunately, 679 00:34:24,328 --> 00:34:27,632 I don't believe the public has a real good idea 680 00:34:27,765 --> 00:34:29,934 of what we're doing, 681 00:34:30,068 --> 00:34:32,537 and we get a lot of people reacting 682 00:34:32,670 --> 00:34:33,604 that, "Oh, my gosh, 683 00:34:33,738 --> 00:34:37,008 you're gonna destroy the forest, take out towns." 684 00:34:37,141 --> 00:34:41,612 That sort of stuff, that... is untrue. 685 00:34:42,046 --> 00:34:47,785 There was video produced online of myself and Morgan 686 00:34:47,919 --> 00:34:51,355 doing aerial ignitions in the Donnie Creek Wildfire, 687 00:34:51,489 --> 00:34:53,991 and I actually had people accusing me 688 00:34:54,125 --> 00:34:57,161 of being an international terrorist 689 00:34:57,295 --> 00:34:59,764 for destroying Canada's forests... 690 00:35:06,337 --> 00:35:07,672 ...when, in fact, 691 00:35:07,805 --> 00:35:10,741 we're using fire to help control wildfire. 692 00:35:31,462 --> 00:35:33,331 [Matt] So, the Salish Crew 693 00:35:33,464 --> 00:35:35,733 got split into different segments today, 694 00:35:35,867 --> 00:35:37,935 so they have a couple different objectives. 695 00:35:38,069 --> 00:35:38,903 We got some people chasing the spots, 696 00:35:39,036 --> 00:35:41,873 some people, um, 697 00:35:42,006 --> 00:35:44,375 checking our last burn line from last night, 698 00:35:44,509 --> 00:35:46,310 making sure that held. 699 00:35:49,113 --> 00:35:51,682 Go for Delta 1. 700 00:35:55,820 --> 00:35:57,788 [Len] Well, we've run into a bit of a problem. 701 00:36:01,692 --> 00:36:03,494 Come on! 702 00:36:06,364 --> 00:36:07,031 That's not going anywhere. 703 00:36:09,033 --> 00:36:10,535 [Len] Unfortunately, we can't get out of this, 704 00:36:10,668 --> 00:36:11,936 we're stuck, so, we have to go, uh, 705 00:36:12,069 --> 00:36:13,704 take all our gear off, 706 00:36:13,838 --> 00:36:14,305 and go the rest of the way on foot 707 00:36:14,438 --> 00:36:17,775 and get to the spot. 708 00:36:17,909 --> 00:36:21,078 Problem is, we got about 40 lengths of hose to haul in, 709 00:36:21,212 --> 00:36:24,415 so, uh, that's gonna be a bit of a workout. 710 00:36:25,783 --> 00:36:28,786 [Matt] Rex is our newest and youngest recruit. 711 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,087 Picked him up this spring. 712 00:36:30,221 --> 00:36:31,222 Really happy with him. 713 00:36:31,355 --> 00:36:33,491 He's really hard-working and really eager. 714 00:36:33,624 --> 00:36:36,794 The biggest piece for me, that warms my heart, 715 00:36:36,928 --> 00:36:37,828 is it's really exciting 716 00:36:37,962 --> 00:36:40,965 to see new generations coming into wildfire, 717 00:36:41,098 --> 00:36:43,634 new First Nations stepping up 718 00:36:43,768 --> 00:36:45,736 and becoming part of the unit crew. 719 00:36:45,870 --> 00:36:47,171 Really proud of Rex. 720 00:36:47,305 --> 00:36:49,006 [Len] How strong are your legs, Rex? 721 00:36:49,140 --> 00:36:51,075 [Rex] Stronger than my arms. 722 00:36:51,208 --> 00:36:53,744 Then we'll see, boy. 723 00:37:00,251 --> 00:37:02,853 [Matt] First Nations have been, like, 724 00:37:02,987 --> 00:37:03,988 taking care of these lands forever. 725 00:37:04,121 --> 00:37:07,491 -Okay, uh, send the water! 726 00:37:07,625 --> 00:37:10,494 BC is built on First Nations territory, 727 00:37:10,628 --> 00:37:13,097 so trying to get the people back into the forest 728 00:37:13,231 --> 00:37:14,699 is a very important thing, 729 00:37:14,832 --> 00:37:18,269 and they'll be protecting their own territory. 730 00:37:22,773 --> 00:37:24,308 [Len] Okay, we've reached the spot, 731 00:37:24,442 --> 00:37:26,210 but it's, uh, moving pretty fast, 732 00:37:26,344 --> 00:37:28,145 but we've got the hose on it. 733 00:37:35,519 --> 00:37:37,355 [Matt] The original Salish, we pretty much 734 00:37:37,488 --> 00:37:40,992 created the standard that BC Wildfire follows now, 735 00:37:41,125 --> 00:37:42,193 because they're so tight-knit, 736 00:37:42,326 --> 00:37:46,497 they have such a high standard, they knew what to do. 737 00:37:46,631 --> 00:37:49,133 They dialed in what works, what doesn't, 738 00:37:49,266 --> 00:37:50,868 and what was safe, 739 00:37:51,002 --> 00:37:51,869 and they pushed it forward 740 00:37:52,003 --> 00:37:54,071 for almost all crews to follow after that. 741 00:37:54,205 --> 00:37:56,641 It's been pretty sweet. 742 00:37:58,976 --> 00:38:01,712 We want to get their knowledge, so that way, 743 00:38:01,846 --> 00:38:04,915 we can continue fighting fires how they fought fire. 744 00:38:05,049 --> 00:38:06,884 If we have to, we can just start cleaning up that one. 745 00:38:07,018 --> 00:38:08,419 -Yep, 100%. -Okay. 746 00:38:10,321 --> 00:38:11,255 I'm just hanging on to, 747 00:38:11,389 --> 00:38:15,026 everybody's path moved on, eh? 748 00:38:15,159 --> 00:38:17,194 Ryan's gone. Reno's gone. 749 00:38:17,328 --> 00:38:21,499 It's... but I got all the young guys now 750 00:38:21,632 --> 00:38:29,173 help do the same thing I enjoyed for 30 years. 751 00:38:29,306 --> 00:38:31,108 [Matt] When you're starting to age out, 752 00:38:31,242 --> 00:38:33,177 it gets harder and harder 753 00:38:33,311 --> 00:38:35,713 for older people and smaller people. 754 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:37,715 Salish Unit Crew 755 00:38:37,848 --> 00:38:39,684 were probably the shortest crew overall 756 00:38:39,817 --> 00:38:40,718 in the province. 757 00:38:43,187 --> 00:38:46,190 Unit crews are usually 220-pound-plus guys, 758 00:38:46,324 --> 00:38:47,558 and Salish, 759 00:38:47,692 --> 00:38:50,394 we're probably averaged at about 5'9", 760 00:38:50,528 --> 00:38:51,429 'cause we're St'át'imc. 761 00:38:51,562 --> 00:38:54,065 So, there's a fun story. 762 00:38:54,198 --> 00:38:55,399 Chilcotins and St'át'imc 763 00:38:55,533 --> 00:38:57,234 used to be warring and everything. 764 00:38:57,368 --> 00:38:59,236 Um, Chilcotins are a lot taller 765 00:38:59,370 --> 00:39:01,639 than, uh, Líl'wat or St'át'imc Nation, 766 00:39:01,772 --> 00:39:04,942 and that's because they have shorter trees, 767 00:39:05,076 --> 00:39:05,876 so up on the plateau, 768 00:39:06,010 --> 00:39:08,045 they have to peek over the trees, 769 00:39:08,179 --> 00:39:09,714 so they grew, 770 00:39:09,847 --> 00:39:12,616 while, uh, St'át'imc has the big trees. 771 00:39:12,750 --> 00:39:15,720 We had to bend under their branches and everything, 772 00:39:15,853 --> 00:39:16,954 and we shrunk, 773 00:39:17,088 --> 00:39:17,788 so that's why we got 774 00:39:17,922 --> 00:39:20,124 the shortest crew in the province. 775 00:39:20,257 --> 00:39:22,560 The wind's in our favour right now, 776 00:39:22,693 --> 00:39:25,362 if it doesn't go that way. 777 00:39:29,467 --> 00:39:33,003 [Mike] Everything was going well, 778 00:39:33,137 --> 00:39:33,270 and all of a sudden... 779 00:39:38,776 --> 00:39:41,078 It looks like the heli-torch stopped working. 780 00:39:41,212 --> 00:39:43,981 I think we need to head back to the airstrip 781 00:39:44,115 --> 00:39:45,449 to have a look at it. 782 00:39:46,884 --> 00:39:50,588 [Mike] ...the second helicopter had a malfunction with it... 783 00:39:52,256 --> 00:39:55,760 This one's done until I, uh, put a new motor in. 784 00:39:55,893 --> 00:39:58,496 That motor just shouldn't be that tight. 785 00:39:58,629 --> 00:40:00,164 ...and the machine went unserviceable for the day, 786 00:40:00,297 --> 00:40:04,502 so that puts the pressure back on the original pilot, 787 00:40:04,635 --> 00:40:07,571 that he's gotta carry us all day long. 788 00:40:08,472 --> 00:40:11,142 [Morgan] About 15, 20 minutes later... 789 00:40:11,275 --> 00:40:12,543 Oh, no! 790 00:40:12,676 --> 00:40:15,012 ...our second heli-torch malfunctioned. 791 00:40:15,146 --> 00:40:17,882 It stopped igniting the, uh, jelly fuels. 792 00:40:19,683 --> 00:40:21,152 [Mike] And in that situation, 793 00:40:21,285 --> 00:40:23,821 the pilot who built it stripped the thing down. 794 00:40:23,954 --> 00:40:25,122 He wasn't sure 795 00:40:25,256 --> 00:40:26,290 if he was gonna fix the machine, 796 00:40:26,423 --> 00:40:28,058 so that was a little bit unnerving, 797 00:40:28,192 --> 00:40:30,528 because we didn't have another heli-torch 798 00:40:30,661 --> 00:40:33,030 so that we could continue lighting that line. 799 00:40:33,164 --> 00:40:33,998 'Cause, if not, 800 00:40:34,131 --> 00:40:37,401 we've got day one over on the left side, 801 00:40:37,535 --> 00:40:39,637 and we're on the east side, 802 00:40:39,770 --> 00:40:41,305 and we're trying to join them together. 803 00:40:41,438 --> 00:40:42,907 If we don't join them, 804 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:47,311 then we're opening ourselves up for a real bad scenario, 805 00:40:47,445 --> 00:40:48,479 because if the wind does shift, 806 00:40:48,612 --> 00:40:52,349 it's got a hole to go through, totally unprotected. 807 00:40:57,488 --> 00:40:58,989 [Morgan] It was a very stressful time. 808 00:40:59,123 --> 00:41:00,224 We did have quite a bit of fire on the landscape 809 00:41:00,357 --> 00:41:02,827 that wasn't secured 810 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,695 or checked into another control line, 811 00:41:04,829 --> 00:41:06,363 so there was stress there. 812 00:41:06,497 --> 00:41:07,531 Like, "Okay, now what are we gonna do?" 813 00:41:07,665 --> 00:41:10,534 You know, but we're trying to tie in... 814 00:41:10,668 --> 00:41:11,235 [Morgan] We're trying to come up 815 00:41:11,368 --> 00:41:13,370 with some contingency plans. 816 00:41:13,504 --> 00:41:15,973 It's a pretty major problem. 817 00:41:25,382 --> 00:41:26,250 [Len] I'm not even gonna watch, Rex! 818 00:41:26,383 --> 00:41:27,384 [laughs] I know, right? 819 00:41:27,518 --> 00:41:29,353 [Len] Be careful with that knife. 820 00:41:29,487 --> 00:41:31,322 [Rex chuckles] 821 00:41:32,723 --> 00:41:34,425 [Matt] When I first started in 2013, 822 00:41:34,558 --> 00:41:38,562 wildfires were mean still, 823 00:41:38,696 --> 00:41:40,064 but if you got onto the big fire, 824 00:41:40,197 --> 00:41:42,600 that's "the big fire for the season" type thing, 825 00:41:42,733 --> 00:41:45,102 and, uh, nowadays, 826 00:41:45,236 --> 00:41:46,937 every fire's the big fire of the season 827 00:41:47,071 --> 00:41:48,339 compared to what it used to be. 828 00:41:49,406 --> 00:41:50,741 When I first joined, 829 00:41:50,875 --> 00:41:54,245 I had a 45-day fire season, and then, years like this year, 830 00:41:54,378 --> 00:41:55,613 we've probably seen people 831 00:41:55,746 --> 00:41:57,448 hit 100 days this year, type thing, 832 00:41:57,581 --> 00:42:00,451 so we've been seeing a lot more burnout, 833 00:42:00,584 --> 00:42:01,819 is what everybody's been calling it. 834 00:42:01,952 --> 00:42:04,622 It's hard on the guys to be away from their families 835 00:42:04,755 --> 00:42:06,590 for 100 days out of the year. 836 00:42:08,559 --> 00:42:10,895 I got an anniversary coming up. 837 00:42:11,028 --> 00:42:11,395 -When's yours? -How many years on that? 838 00:42:11,528 --> 00:42:13,397 On the 20th. 839 00:42:13,530 --> 00:42:14,498 -Of this month? -Of this month. 840 00:42:14,632 --> 00:42:17,735 -Mm. -Our 21st wedding anniversary. 841 00:42:17,868 --> 00:42:20,104 -Whoo! -[Len chuckles] 842 00:42:20,237 --> 00:42:22,106 -Attaboy. -Yeah. 843 00:42:23,107 --> 00:42:25,509 You know, missing another one. 844 00:42:25,643 --> 00:42:27,978 I stay in contact with her every day, 845 00:42:28,112 --> 00:42:31,448 and let her know, assure her that everything's okay. 846 00:42:31,582 --> 00:42:32,516 No matter what time it is, when I call her, 847 00:42:32,650 --> 00:42:35,119 if it's 5:30 in the morning, 848 00:42:35,252 --> 00:42:36,453 she doesn't care, as long as I call. 849 00:42:38,756 --> 00:42:42,192 The passion keeps me going. 850 00:42:42,326 --> 00:42:44,762 We're saving stuff. 851 00:42:46,130 --> 00:42:47,998 When I first started, there was no cellphones, 852 00:42:48,132 --> 00:42:50,267 and now everybody's got a cellphone, 853 00:42:50,401 --> 00:42:51,368 and everybody's on that, 854 00:42:51,502 --> 00:42:54,471 whatever they call, Facebook and that, and... 855 00:42:54,605 --> 00:42:56,340 and nowadays, they-they're talking every night 856 00:42:56,473 --> 00:42:57,441 with their families, 857 00:42:57,574 --> 00:42:59,843 so I imagine that makes it easier, 858 00:42:59,977 --> 00:43:02,413 but they're out there every deployment. 859 00:43:03,547 --> 00:43:07,885 [Len] But it does get lonely, and, uh, roads get long. 860 00:43:08,018 --> 00:43:09,153 Right here! 861 00:43:09,286 --> 00:43:10,220 But, I only got, what, 862 00:43:10,354 --> 00:43:11,522 ten more years to go, and then I can retire? 863 00:43:11,655 --> 00:43:14,758 [laughing] 864 00:43:25,703 --> 00:43:28,672 [helicopter overhead] 865 00:43:28,806 --> 00:43:32,009 [Mike] Luckily, the pilot had the spare parts. 866 00:43:32,142 --> 00:43:33,844 He put it in, we put it all back together, 867 00:43:33,978 --> 00:43:36,213 and it worked like a dream, 868 00:43:36,347 --> 00:43:38,582 and we were able to continue and finish that mission. 869 00:43:41,518 --> 00:43:44,888 It was a very satisfying feeling, 870 00:43:45,022 --> 00:43:47,758 the two lines of fire joining together, 871 00:43:47,891 --> 00:43:49,393 and he said, "Well, 872 00:43:49,526 --> 00:43:52,997 I got about ten gallons left in my barrel. 873 00:43:53,130 --> 00:43:54,331 We're done." 874 00:43:58,869 --> 00:43:59,737 [Matt] Okay, guys! 875 00:43:59,870 --> 00:44:02,339 Let's pack it up. We're outta here. 876 00:44:05,042 --> 00:44:07,578 [Ryan] For the Salish crew, uh, 877 00:44:07,711 --> 00:44:08,912 I think they're in a good place. 878 00:44:09,046 --> 00:44:11,448 They got a lot of young guys that are really eager, 879 00:44:11,582 --> 00:44:12,750 in good shape, 880 00:44:12,883 --> 00:44:14,952 have no problem with the fit test. 881 00:44:17,187 --> 00:44:18,689 Now I'm a First Nations coordinator. 882 00:44:18,822 --> 00:44:19,657 I travel around 883 00:44:19,790 --> 00:44:22,726 recruiting First Nations for unit crews. 884 00:44:25,396 --> 00:44:26,563 I enjoy seeing the young kids coming on, 885 00:44:26,697 --> 00:44:29,700 and I enjoy helping them out. 886 00:44:29,833 --> 00:44:33,103 Who knows the hazards of, uh, tripping hazards? 887 00:44:33,237 --> 00:44:34,238 [Ryan] This year, 888 00:44:34,371 --> 00:44:36,373 because Salish has seven openings, 889 00:44:36,507 --> 00:44:37,708 which is rare, 890 00:44:37,841 --> 00:44:40,144 we had a First Nations bootcamp. 891 00:44:40,277 --> 00:44:42,613 It was great to see them come out of their shell 892 00:44:42,746 --> 00:44:44,048 after the first day, 893 00:44:44,181 --> 00:44:45,816 and it was, it was something to see, 894 00:44:45,949 --> 00:44:47,217 I was really happy with it. 895 00:44:47,351 --> 00:44:49,319 Okay, let's start following Stevie up! 896 00:44:49,453 --> 00:44:50,387 All right. 897 00:44:50,521 --> 00:44:52,256 [Ryan] We're gonna have six of them come on 898 00:44:52,389 --> 00:44:53,424 from the bootcamp 899 00:44:53,557 --> 00:44:56,894 that pass the fitness test, pass the written test, 900 00:44:57,027 --> 00:44:58,629 and they all did great. 901 00:44:58,762 --> 00:45:01,165 I wished I could take them all. 902 00:45:01,298 --> 00:45:04,735 I think Salish is in a good place right now. 903 00:45:05,736 --> 00:45:07,471 I'm gonna retire next year, 904 00:45:07,604 --> 00:45:10,040 and it's gonna be hard to leave this place. 905 00:45:33,163 --> 00:45:34,631 [Morgan] You're seeing the highway stay open 906 00:45:34,765 --> 00:45:36,834 or the critical infrastructure, 907 00:45:36,967 --> 00:45:37,701 um, still standing at the end of the day, 908 00:45:37,835 --> 00:45:39,870 and it-it's very rewarding. 909 00:45:41,638 --> 00:45:43,307 [Mike] It'll eventually get put out 910 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,342 by the snow and the rains this winter, 911 00:45:45,476 --> 00:45:48,011 and next year, it will start to heal itself, 912 00:45:48,145 --> 00:45:50,581 and things will start to regrow. 913 00:45:52,950 --> 00:45:55,452 Morgan did incredibly well. 914 00:45:55,586 --> 00:45:57,688 He's gonna be... 915 00:45:57,821 --> 00:46:00,290 probably one of the best prescribed burners 916 00:46:00,424 --> 00:46:03,794 and ignition specialists in the country. 917 00:46:03,927 --> 00:46:05,662 He's gonna be a superstar. 918 00:46:05,796 --> 00:46:07,631 [Morgan] We've talked about when I get in a jam, 919 00:46:07,764 --> 00:46:11,068 I'll be calling Mike, and I have Mike on speed-dial, 920 00:46:11,201 --> 00:46:13,537 and he said he'll be there to answer the phone. 921 00:46:13,670 --> 00:46:16,173 He'll be missed. 922 00:46:16,707 --> 00:46:18,909 I've loved doing this job. 923 00:46:20,477 --> 00:46:21,512 I'm always thinking, 924 00:46:21,645 --> 00:46:24,214 "If I had this mountain, and if I had a fire, 925 00:46:24,348 --> 00:46:27,484 where would I be actioning it?" 926 00:46:27,618 --> 00:46:29,753 Yeah, once fire's in your head, you can't get it out. 927 00:46:36,026 --> 00:46:37,561 I think there's a lot of firefighters out there 928 00:46:37,694 --> 00:46:42,699 that truly become addicted to putting out fire. 929 00:46:42,833 --> 00:46:45,936 You really come to actually love it. 930 00:46:46,069 --> 00:46:47,771 You love the smell of it, 931 00:46:47,905 --> 00:46:52,442 you love the look of it, and you love to beat it out, 932 00:46:52,576 --> 00:46:53,911 but there's just days where, 933 00:46:54,044 --> 00:46:56,547 no matter where you look on the landscape, 934 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:57,548 fire's doing its thing, 935 00:46:57,681 --> 00:47:01,652 and Mother Nature is just in total control. 936 00:47:03,420 --> 00:47:04,621 Fire's always been the centre of my life, 937 00:47:04,755 --> 00:47:08,091 and being on the crew is the best job that I've had, 938 00:47:08,225 --> 00:47:10,961 but it's interesting to see the awareness 939 00:47:11,094 --> 00:47:13,297 that the only way to stop a lot of these fires 940 00:47:13,430 --> 00:47:16,099 is to have other fires on the landscape. 941 00:47:16,233 --> 00:47:21,038 It's certainly a shift in the mentality on our end. 942 00:47:21,171 --> 00:47:23,273 I think people are realizing that what we've done in the past 943 00:47:23,407 --> 00:47:25,442 is kinda biting us in the butt right now. 944 00:47:25,576 --> 00:47:26,710 Okay, we gotta get going. Let's go, guys. 945 00:47:26,844 --> 00:47:29,880 I really do enjoy being out there. 946 00:47:30,013 --> 00:47:32,049 It's exciting, 947 00:47:32,182 --> 00:47:33,750 and you're with really good people, 948 00:47:33,884 --> 00:47:35,586 but I also wanna be a part 949 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,255 of bringing back good fire on the landscape. 950 00:47:38,388 --> 00:47:40,257 Like, how can we, like, shift our mindset 951 00:47:40,390 --> 00:47:42,426 that this isn't such a bad thing? 952 00:47:42,559 --> 00:47:45,562 We can use it for bettering the ecosystems. 953 00:47:46,797 --> 00:47:47,764 I do love the job itself. 954 00:47:47,898 --> 00:47:50,067 It's just so meaningful. 955 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,603 We want to do a good job, 956 00:47:52,736 --> 00:47:54,471 and just do what we can for BC, 957 00:47:54,605 --> 00:47:56,807 and just make sure that everybody is safe. 958 00:47:56,940 --> 00:47:59,409 [♪♪♪] 959 00:48:04,882 --> 00:48:06,850 [♪♪♪] 71158

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