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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:35,936 --> 00:00:37,604 This is the one great voice we have 2 00:00:37,738 --> 00:00:40,574 in a democracy, the voice of our vote. 3 00:00:41,708 --> 00:00:43,677 I don't want everybody to vote. 4 00:00:43,810 --> 00:00:46,680 Elections are not won by a majority of people, 5 00:00:46,813 --> 00:00:49,115 they never have been, and they are not now. 6 00:00:51,151 --> 00:00:53,019 This idea that government is beholden 7 00:00:53,286 --> 00:00:56,089 to the people is still the most unique idea 8 00:00:56,222 --> 00:00:57,924 in all the long history of man. 9 00:00:58,058 --> 00:01:00,694 Make sure that we get people in office 10 00:01:00,827 --> 00:01:03,830 who are going to be responsive to the needs of the individuals 11 00:01:03,964 --> 00:01:05,298 that they represent. 12 00:01:06,567 --> 00:01:09,102 They are changing the rules. 13 00:01:09,235 --> 00:01:11,304 That's not right, that's not fair, 14 00:01:11,505 --> 00:01:13,674 and that is not just. 15 00:02:15,702 --> 00:02:17,403 The National Guard has been called in 16 00:02:17,538 --> 00:02:19,706 to aid in the water crisis in Flint, Michigan, 17 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,643 a city with a water supply contaminated with lead. 18 00:02:22,776 --> 00:02:24,277 Thousands of residents exposed 19 00:02:24,410 --> 00:02:25,879 to toxic levels of rust, 20 00:02:26,012 --> 00:02:28,048 iron, and lead want to know who is to blame. 21 00:02:28,181 --> 00:02:30,183 Volunteers from across the state and country 22 00:02:30,316 --> 00:02:33,086 have trucked in water on U‐Haul trucks 23 00:02:33,219 --> 00:02:35,822 because of the city's contaminated drinking water. 24 00:02:35,956 --> 00:02:37,691 The entire population, 25 00:02:37,824 --> 00:02:41,294 roughly 100,000 was potentially exposed to lead. 26 00:02:49,703 --> 00:02:51,505 The Flint water crisis really starts 27 00:02:51,638 --> 00:02:53,073 with the 2010 elections. 28 00:02:53,874 --> 00:02:55,609 In those elections, Republicans gained 29 00:02:55,742 --> 00:02:57,277 total control of the state government 30 00:02:57,410 --> 00:02:58,679 in Michigan. 31 00:03:05,819 --> 00:03:07,630 One of the things that they did was they passed 32 00:03:07,654 --> 00:03:10,223 what they called an emergency manager law. 33 00:03:10,356 --> 00:03:11,796 This law allowed the state government 34 00:03:11,892 --> 00:03:14,227 to effectively override local government 35 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:15,729 and install their own executive 36 00:03:15,862 --> 00:03:18,431 to do practically whatever they wanted 37 00:03:18,565 --> 00:03:19,700 in terms of public policy. 38 00:03:20,166 --> 00:03:21,702 Governor Snyder signed a new law 39 00:03:21,835 --> 00:03:24,204 giving financial managers broader powers 40 00:03:24,337 --> 00:03:25,572 to fix the finances 41 00:03:25,739 --> 00:03:27,273 of communities and school districts. 42 00:03:27,574 --> 00:03:29,409 Seven emergency financial managers 43 00:03:29,543 --> 00:03:31,812 are in place including in cities like Detroit, 44 00:03:31,978 --> 00:03:33,747 Flint, and Pontiac. 45 00:03:35,081 --> 00:03:37,483 These emergency managers were described 46 00:03:37,618 --> 00:03:39,986 as virtual dictators over their communities. 47 00:03:40,987 --> 00:03:43,289 They could impose spending cuts, 48 00:03:43,423 --> 00:03:46,226 they could re‐bargain contracts. 49 00:03:47,193 --> 00:03:49,730 They took control to keep control. 50 00:03:49,996 --> 00:03:52,833 If that meant taking democracy away, 51 00:03:53,066 --> 00:03:56,236 they decided that that would be the route they would take. 52 00:03:56,369 --> 00:03:58,138 We have to send the message 53 00:03:58,271 --> 00:04:04,645 that we will not tolerate emergency dictators in the land. 54 00:04:06,146 --> 00:04:09,182 There was widespread grassroots opposition 55 00:04:09,315 --> 00:04:11,051 because it was so extreme. 56 00:04:12,085 --> 00:04:15,622 We fought it, we fought it in protest, 57 00:04:15,756 --> 00:04:17,824 we fought it using our bodies. 58 00:04:17,958 --> 00:04:21,127 Shame, shame, shame, shame. 59 00:04:21,327 --> 00:04:23,564 We fought it at the ballot box. 60 00:04:24,798 --> 00:04:29,335 In November 2012, by a pretty significant margin, 61 00:04:29,703 --> 00:04:33,507 voters rejected this extreme, emergency manager law. 62 00:04:35,108 --> 00:04:39,379 We were excited because grassroots won, 63 00:04:39,646 --> 00:04:42,916 everyday people won, and said, 64 00:04:43,049 --> 00:04:44,885 "We don't want emergency management." 65 00:04:46,386 --> 00:04:50,356 And then in the midnight hour, in a lame duck session, 66 00:04:50,490 --> 00:04:52,258 the legislature found this loophole, 67 00:04:52,626 --> 00:04:54,060 changed some words, 68 00:04:54,194 --> 00:04:57,664 changed some commas, and created a new law, 69 00:04:59,099 --> 00:05:00,534 and then after they changed it, 70 00:05:00,667 --> 00:05:03,870 made sure that it could never be repealed again. 71 00:05:11,244 --> 00:05:13,647 One of the first things that Republicans did 72 00:05:13,780 --> 00:05:15,448 when they took over the legislature 73 00:05:15,882 --> 00:05:18,719 was they drew these aggressive legislative districts 74 00:05:18,885 --> 00:05:21,588 that locked in Republican majorities. 75 00:05:34,735 --> 00:05:36,770 The legislature never would have passed 76 00:05:36,903 --> 00:05:40,440 the Emergency Manager Act in Michigan if it had not been 77 00:05:40,574 --> 00:05:41,942 for gerrymandering. 78 00:05:42,275 --> 00:05:45,679 The people did not want this, they went to the ballot box 79 00:05:45,812 --> 00:05:48,348 and they made that clear in a referendum. 80 00:05:49,683 --> 00:05:51,618 But the legislature knew 81 00:05:51,752 --> 00:05:53,954 they were no longer accountable to the people. 82 00:05:54,287 --> 00:05:56,757 They knew that these district lines 83 00:05:56,890 --> 00:05:58,959 completely insulated them. 84 00:06:08,635 --> 00:06:11,738 Three, two, one. 85 00:06:12,338 --> 00:06:13,674 Yeah! 86 00:06:14,608 --> 00:06:15,742 Here's to Flint! 87 00:06:15,876 --> 00:06:17,644 ‐ Here's to Flint! ‐ Here, here! 88 00:06:26,086 --> 00:06:28,154 My office started getting phone calls. 89 00:06:28,622 --> 00:06:32,492 "This water is horrible, it comes out of the tap brown." 90 00:06:35,195 --> 00:06:38,231 I'll never forget, one lady came up to me in a meeting 91 00:06:38,364 --> 00:06:43,036 and said, "Reverend, my dog won't drink this water." 92 00:06:44,337 --> 00:06:47,674 This crisis began over a year ago, silently, 93 00:06:47,808 --> 00:06:50,243 when the city switched from a Detroit water system, 94 00:06:50,376 --> 00:06:51,745 to the Flint River. 95 00:06:51,912 --> 00:06:53,814 The Flint River has a high salt content, 96 00:06:53,947 --> 00:06:56,817 so it corroded the pipes that it flowed through, 97 00:06:56,950 --> 00:06:59,853 and lead from those pipes leached into the system. 98 00:07:09,663 --> 00:07:12,065 It happened because elected officials 99 00:07:12,198 --> 00:07:15,168 had the ability to do whatever they wanted to do. 100 00:07:19,773 --> 00:07:21,853 "If I don't ever have to worry about being unelected, 101 00:07:21,942 --> 00:07:24,978 I don't care about your water. 102 00:07:25,178 --> 00:07:27,981 Why? Because I don't have to be accountable to you." 103 00:07:41,595 --> 00:07:47,734 Faith in government began to wane, faith in democracy, 104 00:07:47,868 --> 00:07:52,038 faith in the whole process began to wane. 105 00:08:06,119 --> 00:08:08,121 I think Flint woke people up. 106 00:08:09,422 --> 00:08:12,659 Just sitting and watching, like, these politicians 107 00:08:12,793 --> 00:08:16,930 just so blatantly disregard the will of the people. 108 00:08:17,430 --> 00:08:20,567 You have these officials who feel untouchable, 109 00:08:20,701 --> 00:08:23,336 who feel like they can't get unelected 110 00:08:23,469 --> 00:08:24,738 because they've designed 111 00:08:24,871 --> 00:08:28,074 and rigged a system to make it that way. 112 00:08:28,642 --> 00:08:32,145 I just reached a point where it was like, why aren't we‐‐ 113 00:08:32,278 --> 00:08:34,815 how can we do something about this, like, how? 114 00:08:43,023 --> 00:08:45,091 I wanted to have some way to come together 115 00:08:45,225 --> 00:08:46,693 and start fixing this. 116 00:08:46,893 --> 00:08:49,863 And stop accepting that things are corrupt. 117 00:08:53,099 --> 00:08:55,969 In this age of the internet, you're so connected to, like, 118 00:08:56,102 --> 00:08:59,272 these great examples of people who start off on something, 119 00:08:59,405 --> 00:09:00,807 and it does work sometimes. 120 00:09:00,974 --> 00:09:02,342 And so I think I thought, you know, 121 00:09:02,475 --> 00:09:04,611 I'm going to throw it out into the world. 122 00:09:11,552 --> 00:09:14,721 From the moment I posted it, I saw so many people 123 00:09:14,855 --> 00:09:17,123 who were just upset with the current way politics 124 00:09:17,257 --> 00:09:18,291 had been happening. 125 00:09:22,362 --> 00:09:24,998 I saw that there was a pent‐up energy. 126 00:09:25,131 --> 00:09:26,533 I was like, "I'm not alone." 127 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,069 So I just thought I would, yeah, try. 128 00:09:56,462 --> 00:09:57,598 Where you draw the lines 129 00:09:57,731 --> 00:09:59,065 makes all the difference. 130 00:10:00,233 --> 00:10:02,903 A mapmaker knows as they draw a line 131 00:10:03,169 --> 00:10:07,641 how it's going to influence an election precisely. 132 00:10:08,875 --> 00:10:10,877 The reason that you gerrymander 133 00:10:11,077 --> 00:10:12,378 is to make it harder 134 00:10:12,513 --> 00:10:14,748 for your opponents' vote to count. 135 00:10:15,248 --> 00:10:17,751 And there are a few different ways you do that. 136 00:10:18,484 --> 00:10:20,020 You can pack your opponent, 137 00:10:20,153 --> 00:10:22,288 so you can put your opponent's supporters 138 00:10:22,422 --> 00:10:24,825 into as few districts as possible, 139 00:10:24,958 --> 00:10:26,627 so they'll win some seats, but you'll win 140 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,328 all the other seats. 141 00:10:31,031 --> 00:10:33,800 Then there is also cracking, that's the other way 142 00:10:33,934 --> 00:10:35,201 gerrymandering works, 143 00:10:35,401 --> 00:10:37,137 where you spread your opponents out. 144 00:10:37,270 --> 00:10:38,915 So, fine, you'll give your opponents 20 percent 145 00:10:38,939 --> 00:10:40,774 of the vote in a bunch of districts, 146 00:10:40,907 --> 00:10:42,909 but they're never going to win those districts. 147 00:10:45,378 --> 00:10:47,714 The effects of packing and cracking 148 00:10:47,881 --> 00:10:50,283 are to create seats that are safe. 149 00:10:50,817 --> 00:10:52,185 The winner is pre‐decided, 150 00:10:52,318 --> 00:10:54,788 just by the way that the districts are drawn. 151 00:10:56,356 --> 00:11:00,060 It really represents legislators picking voters, 152 00:11:00,193 --> 00:11:02,428 rather than voters picking legislators, 153 00:11:02,563 --> 00:11:05,766 and I think most people find that offensive. 154 00:11:07,267 --> 00:11:09,202 The system is no longer working, 155 00:11:09,335 --> 00:11:11,271 the political system no longer works 156 00:11:11,404 --> 00:11:12,606 for the average person, 157 00:11:12,973 --> 00:11:15,053 and in Michigan, it no longer works for Michiganders. 158 00:11:18,344 --> 00:11:20,614 So for today, we're going to do a campaign highlight, 159 00:11:20,747 --> 00:11:22,747 kind of give everybody an update of what's happened 160 00:11:22,816 --> 00:11:24,084 over the last month. 161 00:11:24,417 --> 00:11:26,219 We wanted to do something about this issue, 162 00:11:26,352 --> 00:11:29,322 but to pretend that we knew at all what we were doing 163 00:11:29,455 --> 00:11:30,455 would be a complete lie. 164 00:11:31,157 --> 00:11:34,327 I'm John Hanieski, I'm heading up 165 00:11:34,460 --> 00:11:36,062 the finance committee. 166 00:11:36,229 --> 00:11:37,898 I got pulled out a few weeks ago, 167 00:11:38,031 --> 00:11:40,500 I know Katie from college, we sat next to each other 168 00:11:40,634 --> 00:11:41,968 in public policy class. 169 00:11:42,102 --> 00:11:43,904 And then I'm also the state field director, 170 00:11:44,037 --> 00:11:46,239 so I have that group also which consists of... 171 00:11:46,372 --> 00:11:48,341 There had been some news pieces saying 172 00:11:48,474 --> 00:11:51,545 that there was not interest from our elected officials 173 00:11:51,678 --> 00:11:52,846 in changing this. 174 00:11:52,979 --> 00:11:54,123 The proposal at a glance is it's going 175 00:11:54,147 --> 00:11:55,516 to be a citizen's commission. 176 00:11:55,782 --> 00:11:58,384 And so it just felt like an independent 177 00:11:58,519 --> 00:12:00,887 citizen‐driven commission that would draw the lines 178 00:12:01,021 --> 00:12:03,489 in a fair and transparent way was the way to go. 179 00:12:03,624 --> 00:12:06,893 You prescribe for fixing this, this citizens' commission. 180 00:12:07,027 --> 00:12:09,429 Four would be Democrats, four would be Republicans, 181 00:12:09,563 --> 00:12:11,064 five would be Independents. 182 00:12:11,197 --> 00:12:13,299 Yeah, so right now the process happens completely 183 00:12:13,433 --> 00:12:16,336 behind closed doors and is the most partisan thing 184 00:12:16,469 --> 00:12:17,469 that could happen. 185 00:12:17,538 --> 00:12:18,805 You have one party 186 00:12:18,939 --> 00:12:20,774 with lobbyists locking themselves behind, 187 00:12:20,907 --> 00:12:22,308 you know, that door. 188 00:12:22,442 --> 00:12:24,282 Our process takes all of that and throws it out 189 00:12:24,310 --> 00:12:25,310 into the open. 190 00:12:34,755 --> 00:12:38,559 Thank you guys so much for coming out on a Saturday. 191 00:12:39,159 --> 00:12:40,927 Because I don't do politics for a job, 192 00:12:41,061 --> 00:12:42,529 it's not a huge part of my life. 193 00:12:42,696 --> 00:12:44,541 When we started talking to other groups, you know, 194 00:12:44,565 --> 00:12:46,509 they were like well, nobody in your group has, you know, 195 00:12:46,533 --> 00:12:48,268 directly ran a ballot initiative, so... 196 00:12:48,401 --> 00:12:49,803 I mean are you going out 197 00:12:49,936 --> 00:12:51,336 and talking to groups, trying to get 198 00:12:51,404 --> 00:12:53,339 some big organizations who might have some 199 00:12:53,473 --> 00:12:55,241 financial resources behind them? 200 00:12:55,375 --> 00:12:57,110 We're looking to coalition build. 201 00:12:57,243 --> 00:13:00,547 It... Redistricting is an issue that affects 202 00:13:00,681 --> 00:13:01,782 so many different things. 203 00:13:01,915 --> 00:13:03,416 So who do you have on board? 204 00:13:04,317 --> 00:13:06,019 No organizations formally yet, 205 00:13:06,152 --> 00:13:07,352 but we're working with plenty. 206 00:13:07,554 --> 00:13:09,022 You're trying to coalition build, 207 00:13:09,155 --> 00:13:10,390 who is in your coalition? 208 00:13:10,557 --> 00:13:12,277 I think they didn't know what to do with us. 209 00:13:12,693 --> 00:13:15,796 So this is part of the 14th Congressional District, 210 00:13:15,929 --> 00:13:17,397 so why was it created this way? 211 00:13:17,531 --> 00:13:19,065 But we started doing these town halls. 212 00:13:19,199 --> 00:13:20,366 Farmington has 213 00:13:20,534 --> 00:13:21,644 a good number of Republicans in it, 214 00:13:21,668 --> 00:13:23,069 so you pull Pontiac out 215 00:13:23,203 --> 00:13:24,871 and you put it in the next district over 216 00:13:25,005 --> 00:13:26,516 because there it contributes to majorities 217 00:13:26,540 --> 00:13:28,008 for the other side. 218 00:13:28,308 --> 00:13:30,188 And we saw, you know, a renewed sense of urgency 219 00:13:30,310 --> 00:13:31,878 from the people of Michigan. 220 00:13:33,680 --> 00:13:37,250 We started from a Facebook post in social media, 221 00:13:37,383 --> 00:13:40,086 and quickly turned into a thousand different strangers 222 00:13:40,220 --> 00:13:43,089 from across the state that have come together 223 00:13:43,223 --> 00:13:46,927 to go through the process, learning as we go. 224 00:13:47,193 --> 00:13:48,962 Seeing that all those in favor of the motion 225 00:13:49,095 --> 00:13:50,897 ‐ signify by saying aye. ‐ Aye. 226 00:13:51,031 --> 00:13:52,766 All those opposed? The motion carries. 227 00:14:06,513 --> 00:14:09,082 Yes, we have something very important for you to do. 228 00:14:09,215 --> 00:14:12,719 I'm going to cry. 229 00:14:14,755 --> 00:14:16,489 I am shaking, thank you. 230 00:14:16,623 --> 00:14:18,659 Our whole campaign has been about the people, 231 00:14:18,792 --> 00:14:21,427 about representing accurately the voices of the people 232 00:14:21,562 --> 00:14:24,197 and making sure that what we actually want as change, 233 00:14:24,330 --> 00:14:26,266 doesn't get manipulated from anybody, 234 00:14:26,399 --> 00:14:28,268 and I feel so confident that we have done that 235 00:14:28,401 --> 00:14:29,736 and will continue to do that. 236 00:14:30,003 --> 00:14:32,806 So thanks and let's go gather petitions. 237 00:14:32,939 --> 00:14:34,575 Yeah! 238 00:14:34,808 --> 00:14:36,209 Thanks, Joe. 239 00:14:41,147 --> 00:14:42,916 Gerrymandering takes its name 240 00:14:43,049 --> 00:14:44,585 from a man named Elbridge Gerry, 241 00:14:44,785 --> 00:14:47,921 the Governor of Massachusetts in 1812 242 00:14:48,488 --> 00:14:53,960 who agrees to maps that draw up wild districts. 243 00:14:54,327 --> 00:14:56,730 A political cartoonist takes one look at this 244 00:14:56,863 --> 00:14:58,799 and thinks it looks like a salamander, 245 00:14:59,065 --> 00:15:00,400 so it becomes known 246 00:15:00,534 --> 00:15:01,602 as gerrymandering. 247 00:15:01,735 --> 00:15:03,212 Quick sidenote, you are not wrong to notice 248 00:15:03,236 --> 00:15:04,805 that the "gerry" in gerrymander 249 00:15:04,938 --> 00:15:08,174 refers to a guy whose name was actually pronounced Gary 250 00:15:08,308 --> 00:15:09,576 because literally everything 251 00:15:09,710 --> 00:15:12,613 about gerrymandering is stupid and wrong. 252 00:15:16,382 --> 00:15:18,519 All the way through the mid to latter part 253 00:15:18,652 --> 00:15:19,886 of the 20th Century, 254 00:15:20,020 --> 00:15:21,660 gerrymandering, though it was pervasive... 255 00:15:21,755 --> 00:15:24,858 State legislatures all over America are at it again. 256 00:15:25,158 --> 00:15:27,794 It was never used to consolidate 257 00:15:28,028 --> 00:15:29,329 and make permanent 258 00:15:29,630 --> 00:15:32,398 the power of any one political party. 259 00:15:32,533 --> 00:15:34,267 Gerrymandering continues to be 260 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,003 an effective weapon to maintain the status quo. 261 00:15:38,038 --> 00:15:41,241 It was often about incumbent protection 262 00:15:41,374 --> 00:15:42,709 and both sides would do it. 263 00:15:42,843 --> 00:15:46,179 Democrats did a terrific job of gerrymandering 264 00:15:46,312 --> 00:15:48,114 California in the 1980s. 265 00:15:48,281 --> 00:15:50,651 There was a congressman named Phillip Burton who used to say 266 00:15:50,784 --> 00:15:52,424 that the district lines that he drew there 267 00:15:52,519 --> 00:15:55,221 were his contribution to modern art. 268 00:15:56,389 --> 00:15:57,824 The fact is gerrymandering 269 00:15:57,958 --> 00:15:59,425 has become a national scandal. 270 00:15:59,793 --> 00:16:02,195 The Democratic controlled state legislatures 271 00:16:02,563 --> 00:16:04,531 have so rigged the electoral process 272 00:16:04,665 --> 00:16:06,733 that the will of the people cannot be heard. 273 00:16:13,473 --> 00:16:15,108 Ladies and gentlemen, 274 00:16:15,509 --> 00:16:19,713 the next first family of the United States of America. 275 00:16:32,526 --> 00:16:36,162 November 2008, we have the historic election 276 00:16:36,296 --> 00:16:38,064 of our first African American president. 277 00:16:38,231 --> 00:16:40,300 You see a Democratic super majority 278 00:16:40,433 --> 00:16:41,535 in the U. S. Senate, 279 00:16:41,702 --> 00:16:43,804 and it returns a Democratic majority 280 00:16:43,937 --> 00:16:45,338 to the U. S. House. 281 00:16:45,606 --> 00:16:47,941 The defeat is total, Republican leaders 282 00:16:48,074 --> 00:16:49,610 just can't spin it any longer. 283 00:16:49,743 --> 00:16:51,377 Barack Obama promised to change 284 00:16:51,512 --> 00:16:53,113 the red states blue and he did. 285 00:16:53,246 --> 00:16:54,715 It is remarkable. 286 00:16:54,981 --> 00:16:56,741 If you watch the news coverage of that night, 287 00:16:56,850 --> 00:17:00,453 folks were talking as if the Republican party was dead 288 00:17:00,587 --> 00:17:05,759 for a generation, not simply because of this election, 289 00:17:05,892 --> 00:17:08,128 but because of the way American demographics 290 00:17:08,261 --> 00:17:09,261 are changing. 291 00:17:10,430 --> 00:17:13,567 I think Republicans saw the writing on the wall which is 292 00:17:13,700 --> 00:17:16,369 there are fewer and fewer Republicans born every day, 293 00:17:16,503 --> 00:17:19,172 and more and more Democrats every day. 294 00:17:19,973 --> 00:17:21,241 They're running out of room. 295 00:17:21,374 --> 00:17:23,019 There's no question now Republicans have got 296 00:17:23,043 --> 00:17:24,377 a lot of work to do. 297 00:17:24,511 --> 00:17:25,888 Something is wrong with the Republican party. 298 00:17:25,912 --> 00:17:27,013 The damage is very severe. 299 00:17:27,147 --> 00:17:29,215 Our party is eroding by the day. 300 00:17:31,685 --> 00:17:33,654 There is always that moment, right? 301 00:17:33,787 --> 00:17:36,690 Whenever there is a big loss for a party, 302 00:17:36,823 --> 00:17:38,525 there's this moment of panic. 303 00:17:39,392 --> 00:17:41,528 I think those of us who have been around a little bit 304 00:17:41,662 --> 00:17:44,230 kind of can see past the panic, but still have the fundamental 305 00:17:44,364 --> 00:17:45,999 What are we going to do? 306 00:17:46,132 --> 00:17:47,400 How do we get back? 307 00:17:47,534 --> 00:17:49,670 And I think that, you know, part of that 308 00:17:49,836 --> 00:17:51,805 turned out to be our REDMAP project. 309 00:17:58,879 --> 00:18:01,014 Chris Jankowski is one of the smartest minds 310 00:18:01,147 --> 00:18:02,482 in the Republican party. 311 00:18:02,783 --> 00:18:06,219 He understands that as important as 2008 was, 312 00:18:06,352 --> 00:18:10,290 2010 had the opportunity to be a much more 313 00:18:10,423 --> 00:18:12,158 important election. 314 00:18:14,628 --> 00:18:19,365 2010 is a zero year, elections ending in zero 315 00:18:19,499 --> 00:18:21,201 are more consequential 316 00:18:21,367 --> 00:18:24,037 because it's a census year and we redistrict 317 00:18:24,170 --> 00:18:28,008 every state legislative seat and congressional seat 318 00:18:28,174 --> 00:18:29,743 following the census. 319 00:18:29,910 --> 00:18:31,945 The census provides an estimate of how many people 320 00:18:32,078 --> 00:18:33,780 are in every state, and every county, 321 00:18:33,914 --> 00:18:35,015 and every block. 322 00:18:35,315 --> 00:18:36,959 As per the constitution, in order to keep up 323 00:18:36,983 --> 00:18:40,153 with population shifts, they build new state 324 00:18:40,286 --> 00:18:41,588 and congressional districts. 325 00:18:42,656 --> 00:18:45,291 In 80 percent of all states, 326 00:18:45,425 --> 00:18:48,962 it's the state legislatures that play the key role 327 00:18:49,095 --> 00:18:50,296 in redistricting. 328 00:18:50,463 --> 00:18:52,032 If you win state legislatures in 2010, 329 00:18:52,165 --> 00:18:56,236 you get to draw the new maps that control all the elections 330 00:18:56,369 --> 00:18:58,505 over the next decade, and they knew that. 331 00:19:01,542 --> 00:19:03,877 Jankowski goes to Republican donors 332 00:19:04,010 --> 00:19:06,446 and says I can deliver two things for you. 333 00:19:06,813 --> 00:19:10,116 I can deliver conservative control of congress, 334 00:19:10,250 --> 00:19:12,085 perhaps for a decade, 335 00:19:12,385 --> 00:19:15,822 but I can also promise Republican control 336 00:19:15,956 --> 00:19:17,290 the state legislatures 337 00:19:17,423 --> 00:19:19,492 and we can move a conservative agenda 338 00:19:19,626 --> 00:19:21,895 through the states as well. 339 00:19:23,363 --> 00:19:26,166 It was a very easy sell to those 340 00:19:26,299 --> 00:19:27,739 who were involved in state elections. 341 00:19:29,069 --> 00:19:31,137 What we did was we took the cost 342 00:19:31,271 --> 00:19:34,908 of swing congressional seats over 10 years, five elections, 343 00:19:35,275 --> 00:19:39,212 and we pegged that at over 100 million per election. 344 00:19:40,113 --> 00:19:43,550 We said okay for this price we can get control 345 00:19:43,684 --> 00:19:47,053 of those state legislatures and re‐draw the maps. 346 00:19:48,188 --> 00:19:51,692 We projected it would be quite a cost‐efficient endeavor. 347 00:19:51,825 --> 00:19:54,160 25, 30 million dollars rather than 348 00:19:54,294 --> 00:19:55,596 almost half a billion. 349 00:19:57,998 --> 00:20:01,802 If you look at the donors to this project you see 350 00:20:01,935 --> 00:20:06,306 the big money interests that help fund the Republican party 351 00:20:06,439 --> 00:20:08,039 and conservative politics in the country. 352 00:20:09,175 --> 00:20:10,276 Walmart. 353 00:20:11,812 --> 00:20:14,615 Altria which is big tobacco. 354 00:20:16,583 --> 00:20:18,585 The Chamber of Commerce. 355 00:20:20,453 --> 00:20:22,388 Establishment corporate interests, 356 00:20:22,523 --> 00:20:24,290 like the Koch brothers. 357 00:20:26,292 --> 00:20:29,530 2010 already was setting up to be a big year 358 00:20:29,663 --> 00:20:32,032 for the Republicans, but what they wanted to do 359 00:20:32,165 --> 00:20:34,300 was win the right seats. 360 00:20:34,801 --> 00:20:38,104 The key seats that would allow them to have an influence 361 00:20:38,238 --> 00:20:39,940 on the redistricting process. 362 00:20:40,807 --> 00:20:44,144 It was Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania, 363 00:20:44,310 --> 00:20:46,780 North Carolina, Colorado. 364 00:20:48,314 --> 00:20:50,074 You know Michigan, I had looked at their map, 365 00:20:50,183 --> 00:20:52,118 looked at their research, and their plan, 366 00:20:52,352 --> 00:20:54,032 and I said, "Okay, we're in for a million," 367 00:20:54,655 --> 00:20:55,922 and they said, "Really?" 368 00:20:56,189 --> 00:20:58,224 And I said, "Yep, so I want you to spread this map. 369 00:20:58,358 --> 00:21:00,260 Act like you've got another million." 370 00:21:00,627 --> 00:21:03,630 They spent tons and tons of money in races 371 00:21:03,764 --> 00:21:06,499 where people had never even seen TV ads before. 372 00:21:06,633 --> 00:21:08,268 Senator Reynolds supports 373 00:21:08,401 --> 00:21:09,903 Obama's health care takeover. 374 00:21:10,036 --> 00:21:12,238 A billion‐dollar tax increase to fund 375 00:21:12,372 --> 00:21:13,907 more government spending. 376 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,709 Unemployment has almost doubled. 377 00:21:15,842 --> 00:21:17,277 We looked and said okay, 378 00:21:17,410 --> 00:21:18,730 looks like crime is an issue here. 379 00:21:18,845 --> 00:21:20,547 This incumbent has bad crime votes, 380 00:21:20,681 --> 00:21:22,315 so we're going to educate them on that. 381 00:21:22,749 --> 00:21:24,250 You know this is a bad budget vote, 382 00:21:24,384 --> 00:21:25,619 this is a bad school vote. 383 00:21:26,052 --> 00:21:29,389 We went wherever the data suggested we should go. 384 00:21:30,090 --> 00:21:33,126 We had no idea what was about to hit us. 385 00:21:34,227 --> 00:21:36,563 Nobody had ever seen anything like it. 386 00:21:36,963 --> 00:21:39,499 In the last weeks of that campaign, 387 00:21:39,733 --> 00:21:42,803 mailers from my opponent were arriving every day. 388 00:21:42,936 --> 00:21:45,305 Incumbent senator Margaret Dickson, 389 00:21:45,438 --> 00:21:47,207 who does she really care about? 390 00:21:47,373 --> 00:21:49,843 Right at the end there was a campaign ad 391 00:21:49,976 --> 00:21:54,548 against me that portrayed me apparently as a prostitute. 392 00:21:54,681 --> 00:21:56,382 What does Margaret Dickson 393 00:21:56,517 --> 00:21:58,051 really care about? 394 00:21:59,586 --> 00:22:01,722 I didn't really sense it in North Carolina 395 00:22:01,855 --> 00:22:05,225 until the very end, and I saw it in my race, 396 00:22:05,792 --> 00:22:08,695 and I saw it when I talked to colleagues, 397 00:22:08,829 --> 00:22:10,463 they were having the same experience. 398 00:22:10,597 --> 00:22:13,567 We all had kind of this "ah‐ha" moment. 399 00:22:13,734 --> 00:22:15,702 And it was true, it wasn't just North Carolina, 400 00:22:15,836 --> 00:22:17,538 it was true across the country. 401 00:22:18,639 --> 00:22:21,241 It's shaping up as a big Republican night. 402 00:22:21,374 --> 00:22:23,443 It is being called a GOP sweep 403 00:22:23,577 --> 00:22:25,311 and a Tea Party tidal wave. 404 00:22:25,879 --> 00:22:28,048 We knew it was going to be a good night. 405 00:22:29,015 --> 00:22:32,118 The Friday before that, I went out on a limb and predicted 406 00:22:32,252 --> 00:22:35,121 we would pick up at least 10 legislative chambers 407 00:22:35,255 --> 00:22:36,557 and possibly higher. 408 00:22:36,890 --> 00:22:38,635 And right after I got off the phone with that reporter 409 00:22:38,659 --> 00:22:41,995 I thought, "Ooph, that seems, yeah, I believe it, 410 00:22:42,128 --> 00:22:46,432 I see it in the data, but it just seems really amazing." 411 00:22:46,567 --> 00:22:49,603 But then as the night unfolded we took everything 412 00:22:49,736 --> 00:22:51,104 we intended to take. 413 00:22:51,838 --> 00:22:53,607 North Carolina House and Senate flip 414 00:22:53,740 --> 00:22:55,709 to the Republicans for the first time since 1870. 415 00:22:55,976 --> 00:22:57,310 The Indiana House has flipped, 416 00:22:57,544 --> 00:22:58,855 the Pennsylvania House has flipped, 417 00:22:58,879 --> 00:23:00,514 Michigan House has flipped, 418 00:23:00,681 --> 00:23:02,492 the Ohio House has flipped, the Iowa House has flipped. 419 00:23:02,516 --> 00:23:05,051 A tsunami just hit the heartland. 420 00:23:05,686 --> 00:23:07,396 This was actually something that wasn't covered 421 00:23:07,420 --> 00:23:08,689 a whole lot at the time. 422 00:23:09,623 --> 00:23:13,760 A dozen or so states would turn into Republican hands 423 00:23:13,894 --> 00:23:17,363 and would now have control over drawing all 424 00:23:17,531 --> 00:23:19,399 of the district boundaries. 425 00:23:21,835 --> 00:23:24,871 They did this for 30 million dollars. 426 00:23:25,005 --> 00:23:28,474 It's the biggest bargain and perhaps the biggest heist 427 00:23:28,642 --> 00:23:30,911 in modern American political history. 428 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,150 For us, it was mission accomplished. 429 00:23:38,451 --> 00:23:41,622 And then the second part of the plan was what happened 430 00:23:41,755 --> 00:23:43,323 with redrawing the lines. 431 00:23:45,559 --> 00:23:48,061 We sent out a letter to all of the new leaders 432 00:23:49,029 --> 00:23:50,697 and said, "If you need resources, 433 00:23:50,831 --> 00:23:53,266 we would be happy to provide those for you." 434 00:23:53,867 --> 00:23:56,703 They say, "If you need mapping help, 435 00:23:56,837 --> 00:24:00,206 if you need legal help, you let us know, 436 00:24:00,340 --> 00:24:01,675 we've got the money for you. 437 00:24:01,875 --> 00:24:05,579 We have the experts, we have the money, let us help." 438 00:24:26,066 --> 00:24:28,201 Tom Hofeller is kind of a superstar 439 00:24:28,334 --> 00:24:29,536 in gerrymandering. 440 00:24:29,936 --> 00:24:33,807 It's my job to advise Republican stakeholders 441 00:24:33,940 --> 00:24:37,544 in the redistricting question on how they can maneuver 442 00:24:37,678 --> 00:24:39,279 through these thickets. 443 00:24:39,980 --> 00:24:41,447 He goes around and works 444 00:24:41,582 --> 00:24:43,884 for Republican legislators in multiple states 445 00:24:44,017 --> 00:24:45,752 and will draw their maps. 446 00:24:46,352 --> 00:24:47,788 There is something almost like 447 00:24:47,921 --> 00:24:49,489 an old country doctor about Hofeller. 448 00:24:49,623 --> 00:24:51,925 He would pack his old kit bag, you know, with his laptop, 449 00:24:52,058 --> 00:24:54,494 kiss his wife in Alexandria, Virginia goodbye, 450 00:24:54,628 --> 00:24:55,862 and pet his dog. 451 00:24:57,063 --> 00:24:58,632 And then set off into a country 452 00:24:58,765 --> 00:25:00,834 that was about to be redrawn by him. 453 00:25:05,071 --> 00:25:08,709 Redistricting used to be done by legislators 454 00:25:08,842 --> 00:25:10,443 or their legislative staff, 455 00:25:10,977 --> 00:25:13,379 so it was always a partisan project, 456 00:25:13,914 --> 00:25:16,249 but at least people lived in the state, 457 00:25:16,416 --> 00:25:19,553 and they knew the people, and they knew the politics. 458 00:25:21,087 --> 00:25:22,689 These people out of Washington, 459 00:25:22,823 --> 00:25:24,263 all they know is where the airport is 460 00:25:24,324 --> 00:25:26,459 when they come down and deliver the plans. 461 00:25:27,528 --> 00:25:30,831 And they also know how to use sophisticated software 462 00:25:30,964 --> 00:25:33,299 to maximize political results. 463 00:25:34,868 --> 00:25:36,903 Hofeller has got a piece of software 464 00:25:37,571 --> 00:25:40,741 and he downloads a bunch of political data into that 465 00:25:41,041 --> 00:25:43,677 and he spits out the most partisan map 466 00:25:43,810 --> 00:25:45,946 that he thinks the courts will allow. 467 00:25:47,447 --> 00:25:50,884 Gerrymandering from 1788 through 2000 468 00:25:51,017 --> 00:25:53,153 is in its minor leagues. 469 00:25:53,687 --> 00:25:56,289 In 2010, gerrymandering jumps straight 470 00:25:56,422 --> 00:25:57,791 into its steroids era. 471 00:25:58,158 --> 00:26:01,394 Big data and big technology emerge in such a way 472 00:26:01,528 --> 00:26:02,863 that you can carve 473 00:26:02,996 --> 00:26:05,165 more precise gerrymanders than ever. 474 00:26:09,536 --> 00:26:13,607 They used census data, educational levels, 475 00:26:13,740 --> 00:26:15,108 income levels. 476 00:26:16,743 --> 00:26:18,512 Voters' partisan history, 477 00:26:18,845 --> 00:26:21,081 their race and their gender, and their age, 478 00:26:21,281 --> 00:26:23,917 those factors tell you so much about a voter 479 00:26:24,117 --> 00:26:26,452 that you can predict how they're going to vote 480 00:26:26,587 --> 00:26:29,623 in a few years with a strong degree of confidence. 481 00:26:31,324 --> 00:26:34,127 They could go down the street and, "These people 482 00:26:34,260 --> 00:26:36,072 are Republicans, we're going to put them in this district, 483 00:26:36,096 --> 00:26:37,531 these people are Democrats, 484 00:26:37,664 --> 00:26:39,024 we're going to put them over here." 485 00:26:39,265 --> 00:26:41,267 There was no transparency at all 486 00:26:41,401 --> 00:26:43,570 because they were using private computers, 487 00:26:43,970 --> 00:26:46,206 they were being drawn off site 488 00:26:46,472 --> 00:26:48,775 by hired Republican consultants. 489 00:26:49,543 --> 00:26:51,011 Picture a black box. 490 00:26:51,344 --> 00:26:54,280 Whatever happens inside that black box, you can't see. 491 00:26:54,548 --> 00:26:57,651 They just come out and they say here is the map. 492 00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:02,523 It was a flawlessly functioning map. 493 00:27:03,123 --> 00:27:05,191 Every single district hit what you might call 494 00:27:05,325 --> 00:27:07,493 the sweet spot, safe enough for Republicans 495 00:27:07,628 --> 00:27:08,862 to consistently win it, 496 00:27:09,062 --> 00:27:11,031 but it didn't waste excess votes, 497 00:27:11,164 --> 00:27:13,199 they could have spread around to other districts. 498 00:27:13,834 --> 00:27:15,035 On the other hand, 499 00:27:15,201 --> 00:27:16,903 the few Democratic districts they drew 500 00:27:17,037 --> 00:27:19,239 were designed to quarantine as many Democratic voters 501 00:27:19,372 --> 00:27:20,372 as possible. 502 00:27:20,406 --> 00:27:21,842 So, here is what they do. 503 00:27:22,008 --> 00:27:24,088 They get data on where all the African Americans live 504 00:27:24,210 --> 00:27:25,879 and then they just draw lines around it 505 00:27:26,012 --> 00:27:27,714 so the really crazy looking maps, 506 00:27:27,848 --> 00:27:29,282 the really squiggly looking ones, 507 00:27:29,550 --> 00:27:31,093 the reason they're squiggly is because they're picking up 508 00:27:31,117 --> 00:27:32,786 all the African American communities 509 00:27:32,919 --> 00:27:34,220 all throughout the state. 510 00:27:34,588 --> 00:27:36,265 Take a look at North Carolina's congressional map. 511 00:27:36,289 --> 00:27:39,693 Look at District 12, it's so weirdly shaped 512 00:27:39,826 --> 00:27:42,028 they can't even fit the 12 in it. 513 00:27:42,729 --> 00:27:45,398 Looks like a Rorschach test, what do you see in this shape? 514 00:27:45,532 --> 00:27:48,201 I don't know, it's either a dragon or 300 years 515 00:27:48,334 --> 00:27:49,636 of institutional racism. 516 00:27:53,339 --> 00:27:55,041 Republicans have cynically 517 00:27:55,175 --> 00:27:57,410 put more and more minorities into what's called 518 00:27:57,544 --> 00:27:58,945 the majority minority district. 519 00:27:59,079 --> 00:28:01,081 So the district goes 50 percent minority, 520 00:28:01,214 --> 00:28:03,483 to 60 percent minority, to 70 percent minority, 521 00:28:03,617 --> 00:28:06,520 and the reason they're doing this is so that minorities 522 00:28:06,653 --> 00:28:10,356 will have less impact in all of the other districts. 523 00:28:12,225 --> 00:28:14,895 And that was exactly the strategy that Tom Hofeller 524 00:28:15,028 --> 00:28:16,730 used in North Carolina. 525 00:28:16,930 --> 00:28:19,399 Funneling as many black voters as possible 526 00:28:19,533 --> 00:28:21,434 into the 1st and 12th Congressional Districts, 527 00:28:21,568 --> 00:28:24,705 while bleaching the surrounding areas. 528 00:28:27,574 --> 00:28:29,009 The truth is 529 00:28:29,142 --> 00:28:31,878 the Republicans targeted African Americans, 530 00:28:32,713 --> 00:28:35,081 but the motivation wasn't, 531 00:28:35,381 --> 00:28:36,950 "We want to hurt African‐Americans," 532 00:28:37,083 --> 00:28:38,885 it was "We want to hurt Democrats." 533 00:28:42,523 --> 00:28:44,390 One of Hofeller's crowning achievements 534 00:28:44,525 --> 00:28:45,992 is what he did in the western part 535 00:28:46,126 --> 00:28:47,393 of North Carolina, 536 00:28:47,828 --> 00:28:50,296 in particular, the district that was occupied at the time 537 00:28:50,430 --> 00:28:53,233 by a moderate Democrat, Heath Shuler. 538 00:28:54,701 --> 00:28:56,469 Heath Shuler was a former 539 00:28:56,603 --> 00:28:58,138 University of Tennessee quarterback. 540 00:28:58,772 --> 00:29:02,042 He was kind of a moderate to conservative Democrat. 541 00:29:02,175 --> 00:29:03,409 You didn't send me up there 542 00:29:03,544 --> 00:29:05,045 to blindly follow any one party, 543 00:29:05,178 --> 00:29:06,747 you sent me up there to do what's right 544 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:07,948 for our mountain families. 545 00:29:08,582 --> 00:29:11,251 Loved guns, is anti‐abortion, 546 00:29:11,552 --> 00:29:14,320 he was the very picture of a good old boy. 547 00:29:15,155 --> 00:29:17,457 And so you can't really run against this guy 548 00:29:17,591 --> 00:29:19,860 like he's a San Francisco Democrat. 549 00:29:20,661 --> 00:29:22,629 So they had to change the guy's district. 550 00:29:23,496 --> 00:29:26,933 The most Democratic area of his district was Asheville, 551 00:29:27,067 --> 00:29:28,427 which is this little Haight‐Ashbury 552 00:29:28,468 --> 00:29:29,708 in the middle of the mountains. 553 00:29:32,706 --> 00:29:34,975 Hofeller just essentially carved Asheville 554 00:29:35,108 --> 00:29:38,244 out of that map and moved it to another area, 555 00:29:38,378 --> 00:29:42,849 an area that was so Republican that it could absorb Asheville. 556 00:29:44,350 --> 00:29:46,787 Suddenly that part of Buncombe County 557 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,321 where Asheville was a part 558 00:29:48,454 --> 00:29:51,024 was suddenly quite a conservative district. 559 00:29:54,260 --> 00:29:57,130 Heath Shuler, recognizing the writing on the wall, 560 00:29:57,263 --> 00:29:59,365 retires from politics altogether. 561 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,068 Suddenly now it's there for the taking by Republicans 562 00:30:02,202 --> 00:30:04,771 and the guy who wins it is a guy named Mark Meadows. 563 00:30:04,905 --> 00:30:06,807 2012 is the time 564 00:30:06,973 --> 00:30:09,009 that we're going to send Mr. Obama home 565 00:30:09,309 --> 00:30:11,678 to Kenya or wherever it is, we're going to do it. 566 00:30:13,213 --> 00:30:14,515 Meadows is now 567 00:30:14,648 --> 00:30:16,517 the chairman of the Freedom Caucus 568 00:30:16,650 --> 00:30:19,653 which is the hardline group in the House of Representatives 569 00:30:19,786 --> 00:30:22,789 that opposes anything that is not orthodox, 570 00:30:22,923 --> 00:30:24,124 you know, conservatism. 571 00:30:25,125 --> 00:30:27,160 Replacement of people like Shuler 572 00:30:27,293 --> 00:30:28,595 with people like Meadows 573 00:30:28,729 --> 00:30:30,363 is actually one of the reasons why 574 00:30:30,631 --> 00:30:32,575 the country, as a whole, has become so hyper‐partisan. 575 00:30:32,599 --> 00:30:35,501 Candidates in the middle, both moderate Republicans 576 00:30:35,636 --> 00:30:38,772 and conservative Democrats, they've been the key targets. 577 00:30:39,540 --> 00:30:42,576 It moves our political system towards polarization. 578 00:30:43,810 --> 00:30:47,113 When a member of congress need only fear 579 00:30:47,247 --> 00:30:48,248 a primary challenge, 580 00:30:48,749 --> 00:30:50,884 when they are so safe in their seat 581 00:30:51,184 --> 00:30:54,020 that they cannot actually lose an election, 582 00:30:54,487 --> 00:30:56,657 all they care about is guarding their base. 583 00:30:57,390 --> 00:31:00,093 So working across the aisle, compromise, 584 00:31:00,260 --> 00:31:02,195 trying to find common ground, all of the things 585 00:31:02,328 --> 00:31:04,030 we used to think of as being central 586 00:31:04,164 --> 00:31:05,498 to the art of politics 587 00:31:05,866 --> 00:31:08,569 actually become the only things that can cost them their seat. 588 00:31:33,827 --> 00:31:35,738 These are all shrink‐wrapped in packages of a hundred 589 00:31:35,762 --> 00:31:37,097 and so are the petitions, 590 00:31:37,230 --> 00:31:38,741 so I'm just going to make sure that you have 19. 591 00:31:38,765 --> 00:31:40,266 ‐ These look great. ‐ Yeah, they do. 592 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:41,811 Then it's only for people who signed, 593 00:31:41,835 --> 00:31:43,279 people who don't sign don't get anything. 594 00:31:43,303 --> 00:31:45,038 Yeah, they don't. 595 00:31:48,308 --> 00:31:49,543 So, that's where we're headed. 596 00:31:49,710 --> 00:31:51,430 Are you guys registered to vote in Michigan? 597 00:31:51,545 --> 00:31:53,265 Excuse me, ma'am, are you a registered voter 598 00:31:53,313 --> 00:31:54,615 here in Michigan? 599 00:31:54,748 --> 00:31:56,225 Have you had a chance to sign the petition 600 00:31:56,249 --> 00:31:57,884 to end gerrymandering in Michigan? 601 00:31:58,018 --> 00:31:59,319 To end what? 602 00:31:59,452 --> 00:32:00,772 Would you be interested in signing 603 00:32:00,887 --> 00:32:02,322 a petition against gerrymandering? 604 00:32:02,455 --> 00:32:03,957 Against what's that? 605 00:32:04,090 --> 00:32:05,391 Gerrymandering. 606 00:32:05,726 --> 00:32:07,393 In Michigan it is almost impossible 607 00:32:07,528 --> 00:32:10,463 for a petition drive to gather enough signatures 608 00:32:10,664 --> 00:32:14,134 without using paid professional petition circulators. 609 00:32:14,267 --> 00:32:15,569 You're not paying for names. 610 00:32:15,736 --> 00:32:17,237 ‐ Correct. ‐ And you don't intend to? 611 00:32:17,370 --> 00:32:18,605 Correct, yeah. 612 00:32:18,939 --> 00:32:20,316 Right now, we're at two weeks in officially today, 613 00:32:20,340 --> 00:32:21,575 we have 50,000 signatures 614 00:32:21,708 --> 00:32:23,219 that have been gathered a hundred percent 615 00:32:23,243 --> 00:32:24,645 by volunteers from across the state. 616 00:32:24,845 --> 00:32:26,613 We're working with Voters Not Politicians 617 00:32:26,747 --> 00:32:28,381 for the anti‐gerrymandering drive. 618 00:32:28,515 --> 00:32:30,226 Because right now politicians are manipulating 619 00:32:30,250 --> 00:32:32,318 the system, so then they don't listen to voters. 620 00:32:32,519 --> 00:32:35,355 Hi, this is Katie, I'm doing a super, 621 00:32:35,488 --> 00:32:37,123 super late weekly update. 622 00:32:37,290 --> 00:32:41,261 I just wanted to say thank you to every single person 623 00:32:41,394 --> 00:32:44,765 who decided to start gathering signatures. 624 00:32:45,165 --> 00:32:46,900 So I would start with today's date. 625 00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:49,636 The anti‐fracking movement had a lot of energy 626 00:32:49,770 --> 00:32:52,105 and they failed to get the signatures needed 627 00:32:52,238 --> 00:32:53,540 to get on the ballot. 628 00:32:53,674 --> 00:32:55,314 ‐ Do you know about the topic? ‐ Oh, yeah. 629 00:32:55,341 --> 00:32:56,621 You're all set, okay, wonderful. 630 00:32:56,810 --> 00:32:58,378 I mean, the only group ever 631 00:32:58,512 --> 00:33:00,152 to manage getting a petition on the ballot 632 00:33:00,246 --> 00:33:02,415 using only volunteers was Right to Life. 633 00:33:02,583 --> 00:33:04,751 If anyone else is interested in signing. 634 00:33:04,885 --> 00:33:07,053 I'm not sure if anyone has been paying attention 635 00:33:07,187 --> 00:33:08,889 at all to our ticker, 636 00:33:09,055 --> 00:33:12,926 but we are at 196,000 signatures, 637 00:33:13,059 --> 00:33:14,661 which is absolutely amazing. 638 00:33:14,795 --> 00:33:18,331 They're not only on pace to get the 400,000 639 00:33:18,464 --> 00:33:20,934 that they want, but they, it looks like they're going 640 00:33:21,067 --> 00:33:24,671 to do it before their deadline which is really amazing. 641 00:33:24,805 --> 00:33:26,339 I tell you these folks are everywhere. 642 00:33:26,472 --> 00:33:27,817 I mean I can't go to a public event 643 00:33:27,841 --> 00:33:29,009 without seeing them. 644 00:33:29,375 --> 00:33:30,820 Oh my gosh, remember right after we got approval 645 00:33:30,844 --> 00:33:32,489 where they called all our people old ladies 646 00:33:32,513 --> 00:33:34,214 who aren't going to get anything done? 647 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,650 They're like, their minds are blown, it's awesome. 648 00:33:45,892 --> 00:33:48,595 Aww, goodbye, hair. 649 00:33:48,995 --> 00:33:50,764 Ah, I wish I was better at this. 650 00:33:50,897 --> 00:33:52,165 It's pretty bad. 651 00:33:52,298 --> 00:33:54,034 Not as much as I do. 652 00:34:01,908 --> 00:34:04,144 Today we turn in our signatures 653 00:34:04,277 --> 00:34:05,646 to the Secretary of State. 654 00:34:05,779 --> 00:34:07,881 Who would have known that a little over a year ago 655 00:34:08,014 --> 00:34:11,618 we would be here today turning them in two months early 656 00:34:11,752 --> 00:34:13,053 with all volunteers? 657 00:34:13,186 --> 00:34:14,454 In under 40 days 658 00:34:14,588 --> 00:34:17,057 we got all 83 counties represented 659 00:34:17,223 --> 00:34:18,491 and that is only possible 660 00:34:18,625 --> 00:34:20,493 because all of you guys decided to say, 661 00:34:20,627 --> 00:34:22,763 "Heck yeah I'm going to join onto this thing." 662 00:34:22,896 --> 00:34:25,331 Here is where we're loading up the petitions. 663 00:34:25,465 --> 00:34:27,200 I'm not sure if everybody can see this, 664 00:34:27,333 --> 00:34:31,271 but there are literally rows and rows of boxes. 665 00:34:36,977 --> 00:34:40,881 I remember the first time I saw this group get together 666 00:34:41,081 --> 00:34:42,549 and talk about it and, you know, 667 00:34:42,683 --> 00:34:44,651 I'm a veteran political reporter, 668 00:34:44,785 --> 00:34:45,819 I'll have you know. 669 00:34:46,219 --> 00:34:48,622 And I looked at these people and I was like, "No way." 670 00:34:49,122 --> 00:34:50,356 No way. 671 00:34:50,557 --> 00:34:52,826 I know what a winning operation looks like 672 00:34:52,959 --> 00:34:54,194 and this isn't it. 673 00:34:54,928 --> 00:34:58,164 They have turned every political operative's 674 00:34:58,298 --> 00:35:00,534 predictions on their head. 675 00:35:01,401 --> 00:35:03,737 They have really blown the box up 676 00:35:03,870 --> 00:35:06,573 and there is no more box, they have reinvented everything. 677 00:35:06,707 --> 00:35:08,875 Our proposal will take redistricting out of the hands 678 00:35:09,009 --> 00:35:10,310 of politicians and lobbyists 679 00:35:10,443 --> 00:35:12,045 who do their work behind closed doors 680 00:35:12,178 --> 00:35:15,315 and give it to citizens who will do it in the public. 681 00:35:15,448 --> 00:35:17,283 What we've seen in other states who have done 682 00:35:17,417 --> 00:35:19,152 redistricting efforts similar to ours 683 00:35:19,285 --> 00:35:20,563 is you see higher voter turnout. 684 00:35:20,587 --> 00:35:22,022 There's about 13 different states 685 00:35:22,155 --> 00:35:23,957 that have independent commissions. 686 00:35:28,361 --> 00:35:29,696 Our U‐Haul. 687 00:35:29,930 --> 00:35:32,165 Yeah, yeah, yeah. There it is, a really full truck. 688 00:35:35,235 --> 00:35:37,771 Thousands of people worked on this campaign. 689 00:35:38,939 --> 00:35:40,941 If we can get this passed in 2018, 690 00:35:41,074 --> 00:35:44,611 there will be thousands of people who affected law 691 00:35:44,745 --> 00:35:46,580 that will affect every election in Michigan. 692 00:35:47,147 --> 00:35:49,415 It was for and by the people and I know that's like 693 00:35:49,550 --> 00:35:51,317 kind of hokey, and kind of like, you know, 694 00:35:51,451 --> 00:35:53,453 really Founding Fathers‐y, but like the fact 695 00:35:53,587 --> 00:35:55,522 that we would actually be able to do that 696 00:35:55,656 --> 00:35:57,991 and prove that democracy is still out there, 697 00:35:58,291 --> 00:35:59,359 that's amazing. 698 00:35:59,993 --> 00:36:01,762 No matter what you do for this campaign, 699 00:36:01,895 --> 00:36:06,833 entering the check numbers, like it all is only possible 700 00:36:06,967 --> 00:36:08,301 because of each of you. 701 00:36:08,535 --> 00:36:10,937 And I know at least on my end, that's the best part 702 00:36:11,071 --> 00:36:14,407 about this campaign is seeing that really the political power 703 00:36:14,541 --> 00:36:17,477 is inherent in the people, so yeah! 704 00:36:35,061 --> 00:36:37,197 The one thing that we are sure of 705 00:36:37,397 --> 00:36:39,866 is that legislators will fight like crazy 706 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,467 to retain this power they have. 707 00:36:41,735 --> 00:36:44,337 I think there will be a vicious fight by the people 708 00:36:44,470 --> 00:36:46,907 who are in power to preserve that power. 709 00:36:47,140 --> 00:36:48,818 They're going to want to try to find some way 710 00:36:48,842 --> 00:36:50,877 to litigate us, to keep us off from the ballot. 711 00:36:51,077 --> 00:36:52,913 We are not going to outspend our opposition. 712 00:36:53,046 --> 00:36:55,481 We might get lucky and get outspent four to one. 713 00:36:55,616 --> 00:36:58,151 We're probably going to get outspent 10 to 20 to one. 714 00:36:58,284 --> 00:37:01,321 The opposition is going to try to bleed us dry financially. 715 00:37:01,454 --> 00:37:03,456 And then they're going to go for the PR. 716 00:37:03,690 --> 00:37:05,559 They're going to be saying that we are complex, 717 00:37:05,759 --> 00:37:08,529 that we are complicated, and that we're confusing. 718 00:37:08,662 --> 00:37:11,765 We cannot make our policy sound even a little bit... 719 00:37:12,032 --> 00:37:14,868 complex, confusing at all. 720 00:37:15,035 --> 00:37:16,269 Like, we have to make sure 721 00:37:16,402 --> 00:37:17,847 it's a very simple and direct approach, 722 00:37:17,871 --> 00:37:19,272 and that the language that we use 723 00:37:19,405 --> 00:37:21,307 to describe the policy reflects that. 724 00:37:22,576 --> 00:37:24,077 They're absolutely worried about us. 725 00:37:24,578 --> 00:37:25,679 They know and we know 726 00:37:25,812 --> 00:37:26,923 that once this gets on the ballot, 727 00:37:26,947 --> 00:37:28,381 it almost always passes. 728 00:38:17,130 --> 00:38:20,534 The election of 2010 had been the Tea Party wave 729 00:38:21,234 --> 00:38:23,269 and the redistricting that followed 730 00:38:23,403 --> 00:38:24,871 the election of 2010 731 00:38:25,005 --> 00:38:28,174 would keep those legislators in their seats. 732 00:38:29,042 --> 00:38:32,045 In a normal political cycle, we would expect a wave 733 00:38:32,178 --> 00:38:33,847 to come in and a wave to recede, 734 00:38:33,980 --> 00:38:36,016 and a wave to come in and a wave to recede. 735 00:38:36,182 --> 00:38:37,462 We see this over and over again. 736 00:38:37,818 --> 00:38:41,622 The election of 2010 was a giant wave 737 00:38:42,455 --> 00:38:43,757 and the Republican Party 738 00:38:43,924 --> 00:38:46,627 put up an enormous sea wall in order to stop 739 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,328 that wave from receding. 740 00:38:48,595 --> 00:38:50,797 And when that happened, we have seen extreme policy 741 00:38:50,931 --> 00:38:51,965 as a result. 742 00:39:08,314 --> 00:39:11,985 Wisconsin is basically an evenly divided state. 743 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,354 Half of the state is Republican 744 00:39:14,487 --> 00:39:16,422 and half the state is Democratic. 745 00:39:20,794 --> 00:39:24,397 In 2010, Project REDMAP and the Republicans 746 00:39:24,565 --> 00:39:25,866 invested a large amount 747 00:39:25,999 --> 00:39:28,635 of very strategically targeted money. 748 00:39:28,835 --> 00:39:31,538 They took the State Assembly and the State Senate 749 00:39:31,772 --> 00:39:33,874 and they won the governorship. 750 00:39:35,475 --> 00:39:36,843 No matter where you live, 751 00:39:37,043 --> 00:39:38,478 no matter what your background, 752 00:39:38,612 --> 00:39:39,846 no matter who you voted for, 753 00:39:39,980 --> 00:39:41,982 we all live in Wisconsin together, 754 00:39:42,115 --> 00:39:44,851 and we're going to move this state forward together. 755 00:39:46,452 --> 00:39:48,021 Scott Walker just swept in 756 00:39:48,154 --> 00:39:49,923 with the rest of the Republicans. 757 00:39:50,056 --> 00:39:51,868 I mean the slate went from everything Democratic, 758 00:39:51,892 --> 00:39:54,995 to everything Republican, everything. 759 00:39:57,030 --> 00:39:59,299 REDMAP, for us, was only the beginning. 760 00:40:00,166 --> 00:40:01,902 State governments, like Wisconsin, 761 00:40:02,035 --> 00:40:04,304 were little laboratories of democracy. 762 00:40:04,738 --> 00:40:06,573 Now that we got control of them, 763 00:40:06,707 --> 00:40:08,027 we wanted to do something with it. 764 00:40:08,108 --> 00:40:10,043 ‐ Good morning. ‐ Good morning. 765 00:40:10,844 --> 00:40:12,644 I see everyone's here to see my prediction for 766 00:40:12,679 --> 00:40:15,115 the Ohio State/Wisconsin game on Saturday. 767 00:40:23,389 --> 00:40:26,660 In this bill will be a change in terms of state employees 768 00:40:26,993 --> 00:40:30,163 not being required to be a part of their union. 769 00:40:30,897 --> 00:40:33,066 Act 10 would essentially do away 770 00:40:33,199 --> 00:40:35,536 with collective bargaining for public sector employees. 771 00:40:35,969 --> 00:40:37,747 That was something that had been a long tradition 772 00:40:37,771 --> 00:40:39,849 in Wisconsin, had been a cherished part of the state. 773 00:40:39,873 --> 00:40:41,241 That was a total surprise. 774 00:40:41,374 --> 00:40:42,843 This is a significant change, 775 00:40:43,143 --> 00:40:45,646 this is obviously a very bold and aggressive change. 776 00:40:45,779 --> 00:40:47,614 The Republicans, they understood, 777 00:40:47,748 --> 00:40:50,383 Scott Walker understood that public sector unions, 778 00:40:50,517 --> 00:40:52,586 the teachers, the municipal workers, 779 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,220 the folks that pick up your garbage, 780 00:40:54,354 --> 00:40:57,858 they tend to vote Democratic and they use their unions 781 00:40:57,991 --> 00:41:01,762 as a means of promoting their political views. 782 00:41:01,895 --> 00:41:03,196 Thanks very much for your time. 783 00:41:03,329 --> 00:41:05,165 So he wanted to destroy that. 784 00:41:06,199 --> 00:41:08,669 I knew what this would mean. 785 00:41:09,102 --> 00:41:13,473 It came up in caucus and I think my exact words were, 786 00:41:13,607 --> 00:41:14,908 "Are you crazy?" 787 00:41:15,241 --> 00:41:17,678 People kill each other's dogs over this kind of stuff. 788 00:41:27,487 --> 00:41:30,156 When Act 10 was introduced, the entire state 789 00:41:30,290 --> 00:41:32,125 just rose up in anger. 790 00:41:32,258 --> 00:41:34,427 We are proud to stand with you, 791 00:41:34,561 --> 00:41:35,862 Wisconsin backers. 792 00:41:37,731 --> 00:41:40,266 First there was 10,000, then there was 20,000, 793 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,436 then there were 30,000, and this thing just sparked. 794 00:41:43,570 --> 00:41:47,674 Hey, hey, ho, ho, Scott Walker has got to go. 795 00:41:48,642 --> 00:41:50,711 Tens of thousands of people in the capitol. 796 00:41:50,844 --> 00:41:54,414 Solidarity forever. 797 00:41:54,748 --> 00:41:57,818 As many as 100,00 on the capitol ground some days 798 00:41:57,951 --> 00:41:59,791 and this thing is sustained for days, and days, 799 00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:01,254 and weeks, and weeks. 800 00:42:07,327 --> 00:42:11,364 It's just hard to express how angry people were. 801 00:42:12,432 --> 00:42:14,935 You know this is a place like Minnesota, 802 00:42:15,068 --> 00:42:18,238 people are basically nice, and suddenly we had 803 00:42:18,404 --> 00:42:21,842 this incredible, polarized atmosphere. 804 00:42:22,643 --> 00:42:26,446 ‐ We are the union! ‐ We are the union! 805 00:42:26,580 --> 00:42:28,414 The mighty, mighty union. 806 00:42:28,615 --> 00:42:31,184 We were a state that had a strong tradition 807 00:42:31,317 --> 00:42:32,853 of trade unions. 808 00:42:33,987 --> 00:42:37,591 People thought, "What in the world is he trying to do?" 809 00:42:43,096 --> 00:42:44,698 Hi, this is Scott Walker. 810 00:42:44,931 --> 00:42:47,100 Scott, David Koch, how are you? 811 00:42:47,233 --> 00:42:49,502 Hey, David, I'm good, and yourself? 812 00:42:49,670 --> 00:42:50,971 I'm very well. 813 00:42:51,204 --> 00:42:52,884 Little disheartened by the situation there, 814 00:42:53,006 --> 00:42:54,841 but what's the latest? 815 00:42:55,175 --> 00:42:57,377 We're actually hanging pretty tough. 816 00:42:57,511 --> 00:43:00,514 You know amazingly there is a much smaller group 817 00:43:00,647 --> 00:43:02,248 of protesters, almost all of whom 818 00:43:02,382 --> 00:43:04,150 are in from other states today. 819 00:43:12,626 --> 00:43:14,094 5,000 to 6,000 state workers 820 00:43:14,227 --> 00:43:16,096 will get at‐risk notices for layoffs. 821 00:43:16,329 --> 00:43:18,298 We might ratchet that up a little bit, you know. 822 00:43:18,464 --> 00:43:19,900 Beautiful, beautiful, 823 00:43:20,033 --> 00:43:21,735 got to crush that union. 824 00:43:22,402 --> 00:43:24,905 Just as there were all these protesters begging 825 00:43:25,038 --> 00:43:26,673 this governor to listen to them, 826 00:43:27,473 --> 00:43:29,776 the person who he was willing to listen to 827 00:43:29,910 --> 00:43:31,044 and so eager to please 828 00:43:31,177 --> 00:43:33,113 was an out‐of‐state billionaire. 829 00:43:33,279 --> 00:43:35,415 He talked about coordinating with other governors, 830 00:43:35,549 --> 00:43:38,685 which made it very clear that this is a national plan. 831 00:43:38,819 --> 00:43:40,153 I talk to Kasich every day, 832 00:43:40,420 --> 00:43:42,756 you know, John has got to stand firm in Ohio. 833 00:43:42,989 --> 00:43:45,926 I think we can do the same thing with Rick Scott in Florida. 834 00:43:46,059 --> 00:43:49,062 I think Snyder if he got a little more support, 835 00:43:49,195 --> 00:43:50,764 probably could do that in Michigan. 836 00:43:50,897 --> 00:43:52,766 This was a test run to see if they could 837 00:43:52,899 --> 00:43:55,268 run over public employee unions nationwide. 838 00:43:55,468 --> 00:43:57,403 There's a lot of us new governors who got elected 839 00:43:57,538 --> 00:43:58,805 to do something big. 840 00:43:59,139 --> 00:44:00,707 You're the first domino. 841 00:44:00,874 --> 00:44:03,209 Yep, this is our moment. 842 00:44:11,552 --> 00:44:14,555 Republicans had no fear of losing power 843 00:44:14,988 --> 00:44:16,289 because they could draw districts 844 00:44:16,422 --> 00:44:18,825 to insulate themselves from public opinion. 845 00:44:21,094 --> 00:44:22,596 The leadership of the Republican Party 846 00:44:22,729 --> 00:44:24,665 in both the House and the Senate in Wisconsin 847 00:44:24,798 --> 00:44:29,169 are able to tell their members, "It's okay to vote for this. 848 00:44:29,402 --> 00:44:31,872 It might not be popular, stay strong, 849 00:44:32,005 --> 00:44:34,307 we are drawing you a seat you cannot lose." 850 00:44:38,178 --> 00:44:41,047 While the streets were full of people demonstrating, 851 00:44:41,214 --> 00:44:42,883 hundreds of thousands of people, 852 00:44:43,449 --> 00:44:45,819 what we didn't know was that Scott Walker 853 00:44:45,952 --> 00:44:48,321 and the legislature took the computers 854 00:44:48,454 --> 00:44:50,123 that they were going to use to redistrict 855 00:44:50,490 --> 00:44:52,458 out of the capitol building, and they moved them 856 00:44:52,593 --> 00:44:54,961 across the street to a Republican law firm 857 00:44:55,095 --> 00:44:57,097 by the name of Michael Best and Friedrich. 858 00:44:58,565 --> 00:45:01,334 And in the very back of that law firm they set up 859 00:45:01,467 --> 00:45:03,336 a secret mapping room. 860 00:45:06,339 --> 00:45:10,744 It's an incredibly powerful and jarring juxtaposition. 861 00:45:11,011 --> 00:45:13,313 You have these two things playing out, 862 00:45:13,514 --> 00:45:15,448 there's all these people protesting 863 00:45:15,582 --> 00:45:17,150 the anti‐union legislation. 864 00:45:17,383 --> 00:45:20,721 Right across the street, key aides to the legislature 865 00:45:20,854 --> 00:45:22,188 are writing, in secret, 866 00:45:22,322 --> 00:45:24,257 the redistricting maps that will determine 867 00:45:24,424 --> 00:45:26,727 Republicans' power for the next decade. 868 00:45:28,695 --> 00:45:30,564 Knowing that they had both houses 869 00:45:30,697 --> 00:45:31,932 of the legislature, 870 00:45:32,132 --> 00:45:33,634 they did everything they could to hide 871 00:45:33,767 --> 00:45:36,570 their map drawing process not only from the public, 872 00:45:36,703 --> 00:45:38,404 but even from most Republicans. 873 00:45:40,340 --> 00:45:42,108 Nobody could even come into the room 874 00:45:42,242 --> 00:45:43,977 unless you signed a secrecy agreement. 875 00:45:44,377 --> 00:45:46,046 And if you'd signed that secrecy agreement 876 00:45:46,179 --> 00:45:47,681 and you managed to get into the room, 877 00:45:47,814 --> 00:45:49,425 which you could only do if you were a Republican, 878 00:45:49,449 --> 00:45:52,452 you were only allowed to see your own map. 879 00:45:54,354 --> 00:45:56,389 So you have before you the various maps 880 00:45:56,523 --> 00:45:59,560 and we have some other members of the legislation here 881 00:45:59,693 --> 00:46:01,027 and we're open for questions. 882 00:46:02,095 --> 00:46:03,630 When we first see the maps, 883 00:46:03,764 --> 00:46:06,232 it's obvious that there's some significant bias in them. 884 00:46:08,268 --> 00:46:10,436 Some individual legislators had been drawn 885 00:46:10,571 --> 00:46:12,072 competing districts 886 00:46:12,338 --> 00:46:14,458 that were going to be much tougher for them to win in. 887 00:46:15,208 --> 00:46:17,143 There were these districts that were drawn 888 00:46:17,277 --> 00:46:20,180 to pull Democratic voters into suburban districts 889 00:46:20,380 --> 00:46:22,282 so there would be fewer Democratic districts. 890 00:46:22,583 --> 00:46:24,627 And there were clearly some districts that were going 891 00:46:24,651 --> 00:46:25,952 to be less competitive. 892 00:46:28,421 --> 00:46:31,157 It was very well calculated. 893 00:46:31,357 --> 00:46:34,427 They knew exactly what they were doing. 894 00:46:34,628 --> 00:46:35,896 We're closing in 895 00:46:36,296 --> 00:46:38,456 on the first results in the battle for the White House. 896 00:46:51,011 --> 00:46:53,780 When the results were known on election night 897 00:46:53,914 --> 00:46:56,382 and we had been killed in the election, 898 00:46:56,750 --> 00:46:59,119 somebody said, "Well, don't worry, all is not lost, 899 00:46:59,252 --> 00:47:01,788 the Republicans won 60 seats in the Assembly." 900 00:47:01,922 --> 00:47:03,256 I said to myself 901 00:47:03,389 --> 00:47:05,067 and I said audibly to the people I was with, 902 00:47:05,091 --> 00:47:06,893 "Well, that can't be right, 903 00:47:07,093 --> 00:47:09,195 there's a mistake here somewhere." 904 00:47:09,630 --> 00:47:12,465 And it was at that point I began to realize 905 00:47:12,599 --> 00:47:15,168 that things had changed. 906 00:47:15,335 --> 00:47:17,704 You have several states in 2012 907 00:47:17,971 --> 00:47:19,139 where Democratic candidates 908 00:47:19,272 --> 00:47:21,007 actually won more votes statewide 909 00:47:21,141 --> 00:47:23,610 than Republicans did, but Republicans would win 910 00:47:23,744 --> 00:47:24,745 lopsided majorities. 911 00:47:25,646 --> 00:47:28,549 You had Pennsylvania where Democrats won more votes 912 00:47:28,815 --> 00:47:30,050 and Republicans walked away 913 00:47:30,250 --> 00:47:31,570 with a thirteen to five advantage. 914 00:47:33,019 --> 00:47:35,088 Michigan where Democrats won more votes 915 00:47:35,221 --> 00:47:37,524 and Republicans had a nine to five advantage. 916 00:47:39,459 --> 00:47:40,861 North Carolina. 917 00:47:42,195 --> 00:47:43,463 Wisconsin. 918 00:47:45,498 --> 00:47:47,338 All of these states at either the congressional 919 00:47:47,467 --> 00:47:50,737 or legislative level saw Democratic candidates 920 00:47:50,871 --> 00:47:52,873 win more votes statewide but Republicans 921 00:47:53,006 --> 00:47:54,407 win a majority of seats. 922 00:47:56,276 --> 00:47:58,078 Republicans could not be beaten 923 00:47:58,378 --> 00:47:59,813 and they were not beaten. 924 00:47:59,946 --> 00:48:03,517 Even when their side got many fewer votes. 925 00:48:03,950 --> 00:48:05,385 And what you immediately see 926 00:48:05,552 --> 00:48:07,187 in all of these gerrymandered states 927 00:48:07,353 --> 00:48:11,124 is the rapid movement of a very conservative agenda 928 00:48:11,257 --> 00:48:12,626 through state legislatures. 929 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,462 A new bill being considered in Wisconsin 930 00:48:16,597 --> 00:48:18,298 would allow local school districts 931 00:48:18,431 --> 00:48:19,766 to make sex education 932 00:48:19,900 --> 00:48:21,735 and teaching contraception optional. 933 00:48:21,902 --> 00:48:24,104 Republicans here called a special session 934 00:48:24,237 --> 00:48:26,540 to pass House Bill 2, more commonly known 935 00:48:26,707 --> 00:48:28,074 as the "Bathroom Bill". 936 00:48:28,208 --> 00:48:30,944 A recent move by the legislature removes one route 937 00:48:31,077 --> 00:48:32,813 to recourse in wage disputes. 938 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,149 It started the moment the General Assembly 939 00:48:36,282 --> 00:48:37,450 went into session. 940 00:48:37,618 --> 00:48:39,252 We're on the 10th order of business, 941 00:48:39,385 --> 00:48:42,055 second reading of amendments and senate bill. 942 00:48:42,188 --> 00:48:44,057 A legislative blitzkrieg would be 943 00:48:44,190 --> 00:48:46,059 the way I would describe it. 944 00:48:47,761 --> 00:48:49,095 There was anti‐regulation, 945 00:48:49,229 --> 00:48:50,631 anti‐environment. 946 00:48:50,864 --> 00:48:52,332 The clerk will close the role, 947 00:48:52,465 --> 00:48:53,900 Assembly Amendment 3 is adopted. 948 00:48:54,234 --> 00:48:55,736 Defund public schools. 949 00:48:55,869 --> 00:48:58,672 Destabling and going after Planned Parenthood. 950 00:48:59,039 --> 00:49:00,282 Concealed carry was another issue 951 00:49:00,306 --> 00:49:01,975 that they fought for a long time. 952 00:49:02,108 --> 00:49:03,385 Democratic governor would veto it, 953 00:49:03,409 --> 00:49:04,687 they were able to put that through. 954 00:49:04,711 --> 00:49:06,212 Another gun rights bill 955 00:49:06,346 --> 00:49:07,781 is on the table to protect drivers 956 00:49:07,914 --> 00:49:10,016 who carry their firearms inside their vehicles 957 00:49:10,150 --> 00:49:11,384 and go to work. 958 00:49:11,952 --> 00:49:13,119 If you wonder, 959 00:49:13,554 --> 00:49:16,590 "Why do we see representatives that are doing things 960 00:49:16,723 --> 00:49:18,659 that their constituents don't want?" 961 00:49:18,925 --> 00:49:22,328 "Why are laws being passed that don't seem to reflect 962 00:49:22,462 --> 00:49:23,864 the wishes of the public?" 963 00:49:24,297 --> 00:49:26,967 Gerrymandering is a big part of the explanation. 964 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,836 One legislator stood on the floor and said, 965 00:49:29,970 --> 00:49:31,237 "We are now in power, 966 00:49:31,371 --> 00:49:33,139 and we're going to exercise that power, 967 00:49:33,273 --> 00:49:35,475 and you all can sit back and forget about it." 968 00:49:35,609 --> 00:49:39,412 Bring back, bring back, 969 00:49:39,546 --> 00:49:42,649 oh, bring back Wisconsin to me. 970 00:49:43,449 --> 00:49:44,818 People began wondering, 971 00:49:44,951 --> 00:49:46,987 "Where are all of these laws coming from?" 972 00:49:47,621 --> 00:49:51,491 The fact that Wisconsin, Michigan, North Carolina, 973 00:49:51,625 --> 00:49:54,460 Florida, Texas, Pennsylvania, they're all passing 974 00:49:54,595 --> 00:49:57,130 virtually identical pieces of legislation, 975 00:49:57,263 --> 00:50:00,000 that's not a coincidence, someone is behind this. 976 00:50:06,873 --> 00:50:08,274 ALEC stands for 977 00:50:08,408 --> 00:50:10,310 the American Legislative Exchange Council 978 00:50:10,443 --> 00:50:14,414 and the goal of ALEC is to push out policies 979 00:50:14,548 --> 00:50:17,450 to maximize corporate profits at the state level. 980 00:50:17,851 --> 00:50:22,455 This has been a goal of the right for decades. 981 00:50:24,558 --> 00:50:27,360 This is a shadow arm of the Republican party. 982 00:50:28,662 --> 00:50:31,598 You have corporations literally writing bills 983 00:50:31,732 --> 00:50:33,499 in conjunction with state legislators 984 00:50:33,634 --> 00:50:34,968 and then state legislators 985 00:50:35,101 --> 00:50:37,137 introducing those bills to become law. 986 00:50:52,318 --> 00:50:55,121 How many of our Christians have what I call 987 00:50:55,255 --> 00:50:56,923 the goo‐goo syndrome? 988 00:50:57,423 --> 00:51:01,361 Good government, they want everybody to vote. 989 00:51:02,128 --> 00:51:03,930 I don't want everybody to vote. 990 00:51:04,230 --> 00:51:07,100 Elections are not won by a majority of people, 991 00:51:07,233 --> 00:51:08,334 they never have been 992 00:51:08,468 --> 00:51:09,512 from the beginning of our country, 993 00:51:09,536 --> 00:51:10,937 and they are not now. 994 00:51:11,104 --> 00:51:13,173 As a matter of fact, our leverage in the elections 995 00:51:13,306 --> 00:51:14,474 quite candidly goes up 996 00:51:14,641 --> 00:51:16,510 as the voting populace goes down. 997 00:51:16,677 --> 00:51:18,645 A developing story, a voter ID bill in Wisconsin 998 00:51:18,779 --> 00:51:20,614 is moving on to the full assembly. 999 00:51:20,747 --> 00:51:22,783 The measure would require voters to show 1000 00:51:22,916 --> 00:51:24,450 their ID's at the polls. 1001 00:51:25,185 --> 00:51:28,622 I first became aware of ALEC after the 2010 election 1002 00:51:28,755 --> 00:51:31,658 when we began to see all of these new voter ID laws. 1003 00:51:31,792 --> 00:51:34,194 And it was clear that these voter ID laws 1004 00:51:34,327 --> 00:51:37,230 had been written by ALEC after the 2008 election, 1005 00:51:37,363 --> 00:51:39,766 because we saw the model bill, we saw the bill 1006 00:51:39,900 --> 00:51:41,267 that had ALEC's name on it. 1007 00:51:41,535 --> 00:51:43,570 Republicans say their intent 1008 00:51:43,704 --> 00:51:45,371 is to eliminate voter fraud 1009 00:51:45,572 --> 00:51:47,974 by requiring a photo ID from anyone 1010 00:51:48,108 --> 00:51:49,342 who votes in Wisconsin. 1011 00:51:49,576 --> 00:51:51,678 They have advanced these model bills 1012 00:51:51,812 --> 00:51:53,046 on voter identification 1013 00:51:53,179 --> 00:51:57,350 by creating this lie that somehow 1014 00:51:57,483 --> 00:51:59,352 people are impersonating people at the polls. 1015 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,454 Republicans say this will cut down 1016 00:52:01,588 --> 00:52:03,790 on documented election fraud in the state. 1017 00:52:04,591 --> 00:52:06,593 It's only when you begin to understand 1018 00:52:06,793 --> 00:52:10,030 that in fact voter fraud is an incredibly small problem 1019 00:52:10,163 --> 00:52:11,397 in American elections. 1020 00:52:11,632 --> 00:52:13,409 Then you begin to realize that all of these laws 1021 00:52:13,433 --> 00:52:15,368 were passed for an entirely different reason. 1022 00:52:15,501 --> 00:52:17,270 It had nothing to do with voter fraud, 1023 00:52:17,403 --> 00:52:19,139 it was all about trying to prevent 1024 00:52:19,272 --> 00:52:20,507 Democratic‐leaning voters 1025 00:52:20,641 --> 00:52:22,408 from being able to cast a ballot. 1026 00:52:24,310 --> 00:52:27,113 Instead of trying to reach out to minority voters, 1027 00:52:27,247 --> 00:52:30,116 they said, "No, now that we've gerrymandered the districts, 1028 00:52:30,316 --> 00:52:31,484 we're going to go after 1029 00:52:31,618 --> 00:52:32,938 and suppress those voting rights." 1030 00:52:33,019 --> 00:52:34,688 Those bills would have never been passed 1031 00:52:34,921 --> 00:52:37,357 but for the gerrymandering that took place. 1032 00:52:46,299 --> 00:52:48,468 In the '90s, North Carolina was actually 1033 00:52:48,602 --> 00:52:51,204 really progressive when it came to voting rights. 1034 00:52:53,039 --> 00:52:56,777 I'm a North Carolinian and lots of my family 1035 00:52:57,077 --> 00:53:00,981 were the people that gained the ability to vote. 1036 00:53:01,882 --> 00:53:04,317 They liked being able to register at license offices, 1037 00:53:04,450 --> 00:53:06,186 they liked early voting. 1038 00:53:06,887 --> 00:53:09,055 They loved what's known as Souls to the Polls, 1039 00:53:09,455 --> 00:53:11,424 which is early voting on Sunday. 1040 00:53:12,793 --> 00:53:15,228 I've talked to people who had that sense of joy, 1041 00:53:15,361 --> 00:53:17,039 who've had, for the first time in their lives, 1042 00:53:17,063 --> 00:53:18,064 a sense of belongingness. 1043 00:53:18,865 --> 00:53:22,603 The process opened up, more people were voting, 1044 00:53:22,969 --> 00:53:24,370 and percentagewise, 1045 00:53:24,505 --> 00:53:26,239 African American registration levels 1046 00:53:26,372 --> 00:53:28,474 became more at parity with whites. 1047 00:53:28,609 --> 00:53:31,377 And we turn to a strict new voter ID law 1048 00:53:31,512 --> 00:53:32,913 in North Carolina, 1049 00:53:33,213 --> 00:53:35,849 which is putting a spotlight on the broader national fight 1050 00:53:35,982 --> 00:53:39,185 over when and where people can cast ballots. 1051 00:53:39,319 --> 00:53:41,755 What the new North Carolina voting law did 1052 00:53:41,888 --> 00:53:44,357 was it rolled back almost every single one 1053 00:53:44,490 --> 00:53:46,760 of those new provisions that had been created 1054 00:53:47,027 --> 00:53:48,762 to add more black people to the electorate. 1055 00:53:48,929 --> 00:53:51,131 It didn't just include strict voter ID, 1056 00:53:51,264 --> 00:53:52,566 but it cut early voting, 1057 00:53:52,699 --> 00:53:54,367 it eliminated same‐day voter registration, 1058 00:53:54,500 --> 00:53:55,940 it eliminated out‐of‐precinct voting, 1059 00:53:56,102 --> 00:53:58,672 it even eliminated Citizens Awareness Month 1060 00:53:58,805 --> 00:54:00,406 which the state of North Carolina 1061 00:54:00,674 --> 00:54:03,777 ran to encourage people to register to vote. 1062 00:54:04,545 --> 00:54:05,912 It was all about 1063 00:54:06,046 --> 00:54:07,981 suppressing African American vote 1064 00:54:08,114 --> 00:54:10,651 in order to give Republicans an extra one to three percent 1065 00:54:10,784 --> 00:54:12,519 which is the margin of victory 1066 00:54:12,653 --> 00:54:14,621 in all of our competitive races. 1067 00:54:14,855 --> 00:54:16,557 So even though gerrymandering has reduced 1068 00:54:16,690 --> 00:54:19,325 the number of competitive races to only about 10 percent, 1069 00:54:19,459 --> 00:54:21,828 they wanted to reduce it even more. 1070 00:54:22,028 --> 00:54:26,867 Ain't going to let no extremists turn me around, 1071 00:54:27,333 --> 00:54:31,071 turn me around, turn me around. 1072 00:54:31,237 --> 00:54:33,439 I've interviewed people who say now 1073 00:54:33,607 --> 00:54:35,408 they have lost their pride, 1074 00:54:35,542 --> 00:54:36,982 they've lost that sense of belonging. 1075 00:54:37,077 --> 00:54:40,246 And that's a lot deeper than just the nuts and bolts 1076 00:54:40,380 --> 00:54:41,682 of a partisan advantage. 1077 00:54:45,018 --> 00:54:47,320 There was a client that I represented, 1078 00:54:47,521 --> 00:54:48,922 she was born at home with a midwife, 1079 00:54:49,055 --> 00:54:51,095 didn't have a birth certificate, couldn't get an ID. 1080 00:54:51,457 --> 00:54:55,228 She went to vote in person and she was turned away. 1081 00:54:55,929 --> 00:54:59,132 It's humiliating when you go and say, "I'm a citizen, 1082 00:54:59,265 --> 00:55:01,110 I have the right to vote, I would like to vote," 1083 00:55:01,134 --> 00:55:02,736 and everyone else around you is voting, 1084 00:55:02,869 --> 00:55:04,971 and they turn you away and say, "No you can't vote." 1085 00:55:05,105 --> 00:55:06,306 It is humiliating. 1086 00:55:14,748 --> 00:55:16,583 Republicans see their time running out 1087 00:55:16,717 --> 00:55:18,519 when it comes to the demographics. 1088 00:55:18,819 --> 00:55:21,087 They see that the country is getting less white, 1089 00:55:21,221 --> 00:55:25,058 more educated, and overall just more diverse. 1090 00:55:25,959 --> 00:55:27,561 What they have come up with 1091 00:55:28,028 --> 00:55:31,064 is a plan to try and stem that tide. 1092 00:55:31,798 --> 00:55:35,969 It starts with gerrymandering, it starts with drawing lines 1093 00:55:36,136 --> 00:55:39,606 that give them the ability to win all of these districts. 1094 00:55:41,074 --> 00:55:44,611 The second part of this process is voter suppression tactics 1095 00:55:44,878 --> 00:55:47,180 designed to make it harder for Democrats 1096 00:55:47,313 --> 00:55:51,051 and minorities to exercise the right to vote. 1097 00:55:52,686 --> 00:55:55,488 It's not a bunch of disparate parts, 1098 00:55:55,689 --> 00:55:58,291 it's not like one voter suppression law here, 1099 00:55:58,424 --> 00:56:00,336 one gerrymandering law here, this is part of a concerted 1100 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,963 this is part of a concerted national strategy 1101 00:56:03,096 --> 00:56:04,397 by the Republican party 1102 00:56:04,531 --> 00:56:07,367 that's being undertaken all across the country 1103 00:56:07,500 --> 00:56:10,537 including in so many important swing states. 1104 00:56:26,653 --> 00:56:29,189 We battled to get voter ID on the ballot 1105 00:56:29,322 --> 00:56:31,391 for the November '16 election. 1106 00:56:31,525 --> 00:56:35,061 How many of your listeners really honestly are sure 1107 00:56:35,195 --> 00:56:37,998 that President Trump was going to win Wisconsin 1108 00:56:38,231 --> 00:56:39,700 if we didn't have voter ID 1109 00:56:39,833 --> 00:56:43,604 to keep Wisconsin's elections clean and honest? 1110 00:56:46,039 --> 00:56:48,241 I absolutely think you can draw a line 1111 00:56:48,408 --> 00:56:50,343 line between he voter suppression efforts 1112 00:56:50,476 --> 00:56:53,113 and the gerrymandering efforts and election results. 1113 00:56:54,715 --> 00:56:55,849 We are seeing efforts 1114 00:56:55,982 --> 00:56:58,018 to undermine the very core values 1115 00:56:58,184 --> 00:56:59,553 of American democracy. 1116 00:56:59,753 --> 00:57:02,122 Nothing is more fundamental in America 1117 00:57:02,255 --> 00:57:03,757 than having the right to vote, 1118 00:57:03,890 --> 00:57:05,792 and having the right to representation, 1119 00:57:06,059 --> 00:57:08,695 and those two core values have been undermined 1120 00:57:08,829 --> 00:57:10,931 by this new assault on democracy. 1121 00:57:23,443 --> 00:57:25,679 ‐ Hello. ‐ Hello, great to see you. 1122 00:57:25,812 --> 00:57:27,948 You too, how are you? 1123 00:57:28,381 --> 00:57:29,482 It looks good, right? 1124 00:57:29,616 --> 00:57:30,851 Hi, Bill. 1125 00:57:31,618 --> 00:57:33,253 Good to see you, how are you? 1126 00:57:33,386 --> 00:57:34,387 ‐ Hello. ‐ Hi! 1127 00:57:34,521 --> 00:57:35,656 Congratulations, 1128 00:57:35,789 --> 00:57:37,090 I've been watching your campaign. 1129 00:57:37,357 --> 00:57:38,668 ‐ Thank you. ‐ That's very exciting. 1130 00:57:38,692 --> 00:57:40,761 Hey, Mary Lynne, good to see you. 1131 00:57:49,269 --> 00:57:50,571 I just want to be sure 1132 00:57:50,704 --> 00:57:53,006 that everybody gets to know Don Winter, 1133 00:57:53,139 --> 00:57:55,676 who hasn't been to one of these meetings before. 1134 00:57:55,809 --> 00:57:57,219 These are all your fellow planners, Don. 1135 00:57:57,243 --> 00:58:01,047 Emily Bunting, Janet Mitchell, that's a lawyer. 1136 00:58:04,718 --> 00:58:06,787 Well one question I had, too, about this election, 1137 00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:08,321 about the Supreme Court election‐‐ 1138 00:58:08,454 --> 00:58:11,057 I've never met an epidemiologist that didn't get nailed! 1139 00:58:11,191 --> 00:58:12,325 Hello. 1140 00:58:12,458 --> 00:58:14,060 Hey, how are you? Good to see you. 1141 00:58:15,596 --> 00:58:18,532 That's Ruth, that's Nick, Annabelle, 1142 00:58:18,665 --> 00:58:21,267 you know the names, I'm sure. Peter Earle. 1143 00:58:24,270 --> 00:58:27,974 We did meet through our involvement in this field. 1144 00:58:28,208 --> 00:58:31,712 Our relationship has sort of fueled the lawsuit, 1145 00:58:31,845 --> 00:58:33,365 but then at the same time, the lawsuit, 1146 00:58:33,413 --> 00:58:37,684 it's sort of a mutually reinforcing circle. 1147 00:58:37,818 --> 00:58:39,920 Maybe coming from abroad, I have less 1148 00:58:40,053 --> 00:58:41,688 of a sense of the status quo. 1149 00:58:41,822 --> 00:58:44,958 So when I see something, like the fact that legislators 1150 00:58:45,091 --> 00:58:46,993 are allowed to draw their own district lines, 1151 00:58:47,193 --> 00:58:49,429 I'm more easily able to say, "Well why?" 1152 00:58:49,563 --> 00:58:50,843 Like that doesn't make any sense. 1153 00:58:50,964 --> 00:58:52,733 Can we sit out there so we can look at maps? 1154 00:58:52,866 --> 00:58:54,635 I brought all the maps on the wall. 1155 00:58:54,901 --> 00:58:57,437 I thought it might be useful to hear from all of you 1156 00:58:57,571 --> 00:58:58,939 about your districts 1157 00:58:59,205 --> 00:59:01,383 to understand what's wrong with your districts as they are. 1158 00:59:01,407 --> 00:59:03,276 So, maybe would all of you feel comfortable, 1159 00:59:03,409 --> 00:59:05,612 we have the map at the moment, you're welcome to come up 1160 00:59:05,746 --> 00:59:07,147 point and tell me what you like, 1161 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,091 and what you don't like, and what you would prefer. 1162 00:59:09,115 --> 00:59:11,852 We were taken out of our district 1163 00:59:11,985 --> 00:59:16,623 and attached to a strongly Republican district. 1164 00:59:16,857 --> 00:59:20,093 I really feel that our vote is a wash. 1165 00:59:20,393 --> 00:59:23,530 No matter what I do or what we do as Democrats, 1166 00:59:23,664 --> 00:59:26,032 we can't get a representative elected. 1167 00:59:26,366 --> 00:59:29,570 We're sort of in exile down in Grant County 1168 00:59:29,703 --> 00:59:33,540 and I have these two secure Republicans 1169 00:59:33,674 --> 00:59:38,244 who do not bother with me. 1170 00:59:38,478 --> 00:59:40,180 This is the district now, and you can look, 1171 00:59:40,313 --> 00:59:42,048 like it goes up here a little bit. 1172 00:59:42,182 --> 00:59:45,018 You can look at how crazy it is with all these different lines, 1173 00:59:45,151 --> 00:59:46,920 but what's interesting, you'll notice, 1174 00:59:47,053 --> 00:59:49,523 here's the city of Portage, it goes around the city lines, 1175 00:59:49,656 --> 00:59:50,824 the city of Portage. 1176 00:59:50,957 --> 00:59:52,492 That's a Democratic‐‐ Excludes it. 1177 00:59:52,626 --> 00:59:54,127 It goes right around the city limits. 1178 00:59:54,260 --> 00:59:56,863 Here is the city of Compass, this is a Democratic city, 1179 00:59:56,997 --> 00:59:59,099 it goes right around the city lines 1180 00:59:59,232 --> 01:00:00,232 and keeps it out. 1181 01:00:00,433 --> 01:00:03,036 So they took the four largest municipalities 1182 01:00:03,169 --> 01:00:05,305 and went right around the city lines. 1183 01:00:05,438 --> 01:00:08,308 It's a very good example of gerrymandering. 1184 01:00:10,010 --> 01:00:11,512 The Whitford plaintiffs realized 1185 01:00:11,645 --> 01:00:13,914 there was no legislative fix to gerrymandering. 1186 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,851 Democrats were never going to be able to win enough seats 1187 01:00:18,018 --> 01:00:20,921 under the gerrymandered maps to have any sort of impact, 1188 01:00:21,054 --> 01:00:23,256 so they had to attack this in the courts, 1189 01:00:23,389 --> 01:00:25,726 and they had to attack it in an innovative way. 1190 01:00:25,892 --> 01:00:27,594 If you are on the side that you say 1191 01:00:27,728 --> 01:00:30,163 gerrymandering isn't unconstitutional... 1192 01:00:30,330 --> 01:00:33,299 But no federal court had ever outlawed 1193 01:00:33,433 --> 01:00:35,702 partisan gerrymandering before. 1194 01:00:36,537 --> 01:00:37,804 And to succeed, 1195 01:00:37,938 --> 01:00:39,305 the Whitford plaintiffs had to show 1196 01:00:39,439 --> 01:00:41,808 that Republicans deliberately intended 1197 01:00:41,975 --> 01:00:44,645 to deprive Democrats of representation. 1198 01:00:49,049 --> 01:00:50,483 We're trying to figure out, 1199 01:00:50,617 --> 01:00:52,853 how are we going to get a case before the court 1200 01:00:53,119 --> 01:00:55,989 that could once and for all resolve this problem? 1201 01:00:56,623 --> 01:00:58,058 And we saw an avenue here. 1202 01:00:59,259 --> 01:01:01,762 We immediately demanded that Republicans 1203 01:01:01,895 --> 01:01:03,597 in The Wisconsin state legislature 1204 01:01:03,730 --> 01:01:07,333 give us all of the documents from the secret mapping room 1205 01:01:07,568 --> 01:01:09,836 related to the redistricting process. 1206 01:01:10,036 --> 01:01:13,173 All the emails, all the iterations of the maps, 1207 01:01:13,540 --> 01:01:16,442 and they responded to us that, "No, you don't get 1208 01:01:16,577 --> 01:01:19,412 this information. This information is privileged." 1209 01:01:20,581 --> 01:01:23,383 The court said, "No, you have to give them these documents. 1210 01:01:23,517 --> 01:01:25,237 You're required to produce this information, 1211 01:01:25,318 --> 01:01:27,358 this is not something you can hide from the public." 1212 01:01:34,027 --> 01:01:35,328 We knew that they weren't being 1213 01:01:35,495 --> 01:01:37,731 completely forthcoming in all of the information 1214 01:01:37,864 --> 01:01:38,904 they were providing to us. 1215 01:01:39,700 --> 01:01:42,435 There were some spreadsheets that were created 1216 01:01:42,603 --> 01:01:43,737 by the mapmakers, 1217 01:01:44,004 --> 01:01:46,339 but we noticed that for some reason, 1218 01:01:46,472 --> 01:01:50,343 we didn't have any spreadsheets in April, or in May, 1219 01:01:50,544 --> 01:01:53,346 or I think June, also, of 2011. 1220 01:01:54,715 --> 01:01:57,483 And so we hired a computer forensic expert 1221 01:01:57,618 --> 01:01:59,452 to look through the hard drives to see 1222 01:01:59,586 --> 01:02:02,055 if he could come up with any spreadsheets 1223 01:02:02,188 --> 01:02:05,091 from that time frame where they were missing. 1224 01:02:07,628 --> 01:02:09,462 The first thing that struck me 1225 01:02:09,596 --> 01:02:12,365 is one of the external hard drives 1226 01:02:12,498 --> 01:02:17,804 had screws on the bottom that had a number of scratches. 1227 01:02:18,471 --> 01:02:20,006 This lead me to believe 1228 01:02:20,140 --> 01:02:24,444 that someone had disassembled this external hard drive. 1229 01:02:27,380 --> 01:02:32,553 I also determined that a piece of commercial wiping software 1230 01:02:32,686 --> 01:02:36,122 had been downloaded and executed. 1231 01:02:36,256 --> 01:02:38,725 And in one hard drive we identified 1232 01:02:38,859 --> 01:02:41,995 almost one million deleted files. 1233 01:02:43,229 --> 01:02:47,033 Someone did not want us to see what had been 1234 01:02:47,167 --> 01:02:48,869 on those hard drives. 1235 01:02:52,472 --> 01:02:55,542 Mark was able to recover dozens of spreadsheets. 1236 01:02:56,643 --> 01:02:58,845 And these spreadsheets turned out to be 1237 01:02:58,979 --> 01:03:00,389 what we would see as smoking gun evidence 1238 01:03:00,413 --> 01:03:01,413 in the case. 1239 01:03:03,550 --> 01:03:05,719 The spreadsheets told a story 1240 01:03:06,286 --> 01:03:10,156 about how these maps were being drawn, 1241 01:03:11,324 --> 01:03:14,728 and how these were different scenarios 1242 01:03:14,861 --> 01:03:16,496 that were being played out. 1243 01:03:16,997 --> 01:03:19,533 It was as though they were testing. 1244 01:03:21,635 --> 01:03:23,570 You look at each successive spreadsheet 1245 01:03:23,704 --> 01:03:26,106 and you can see the maps getting more and more biased. 1246 01:03:26,372 --> 01:03:29,342 They started at 49 seats at their basic map, 1247 01:03:29,475 --> 01:03:32,579 then go up to 52 seats, and 55 seats, then 57 seats, 1248 01:03:32,713 --> 01:03:34,581 and 58 seats, and 59 seats. 1249 01:03:36,216 --> 01:03:37,816 What they were doing was they're reducing 1250 01:03:37,918 --> 01:03:39,319 the number of competitive seats. 1251 01:03:40,521 --> 01:03:43,690 They got pretty quickly to 59 seats for themselves. 1252 01:03:43,824 --> 01:03:45,626 I think there were four or five iterations 1253 01:03:45,759 --> 01:03:47,360 of the map at 59. 1254 01:03:47,861 --> 01:03:49,739 Then they take the 59‐seat map and they continue 1255 01:03:49,763 --> 01:03:51,164 and they continue to tweak it 1256 01:03:51,632 --> 01:03:53,499 subjecting it to this analysis to say, 1257 01:03:53,634 --> 01:03:55,435 well what if the Democrats do really well? 1258 01:03:55,602 --> 01:03:58,905 What if our candidates lose the argument with the voters? 1259 01:04:00,206 --> 01:04:01,708 On that final map, 1260 01:04:01,875 --> 01:04:04,545 even under the scenario of the Democrats winning 1261 01:04:04,678 --> 01:04:07,614 the vote by the biggest margin they've ever won 1262 01:04:07,748 --> 01:04:09,049 in modern Wisconsin history, 1263 01:04:09,349 --> 01:04:11,852 the Republicans would still get 59 seats minimum 1264 01:04:11,985 --> 01:04:13,086 in the state assembly. 1265 01:04:13,587 --> 01:04:16,990 That's an astonishing manipulation of democracy. 1266 01:04:17,157 --> 01:04:18,517 I mean think about it for a second. 1267 01:04:18,559 --> 01:04:21,227 I mean, people elect their representative 1268 01:04:21,361 --> 01:04:23,429 and representatives are accountable to the people 1269 01:04:23,564 --> 01:04:24,564 who elect them. 1270 01:04:24,798 --> 01:04:26,900 And, um... But if you do this, 1271 01:04:27,634 --> 01:04:30,203 if you were able to gerrymander effectively, 1272 01:04:30,336 --> 01:04:33,740 and egregiously, and durably for an entire 10‐year period, 1273 01:04:33,940 --> 01:04:35,141 there's no accountability. 1274 01:04:35,308 --> 01:04:37,511 They can do whatever the hell they want 1275 01:04:37,644 --> 01:04:40,380 and that is what they have been doing in Wisconsin. 1276 01:04:40,647 --> 01:04:41,648 Good morning. 1277 01:04:42,182 --> 01:04:45,552 I'm Peter Earle and I'm the lead trial lawyer 1278 01:04:45,986 --> 01:04:48,154 in this lawsuit which we filed today. 1279 01:04:57,130 --> 01:04:59,232 When one party gains control 1280 01:04:59,365 --> 01:05:02,736 of all the levers of government and then stacks the deck 1281 01:05:02,869 --> 01:05:04,571 in their favor to keep control 1282 01:05:04,705 --> 01:05:06,472 regardless of the will of the people, 1283 01:05:06,607 --> 01:05:10,310 the very heart and soul of our democracy is weakened. 1284 01:05:10,677 --> 01:05:14,080 There had never been a successful opinion of any sort 1285 01:05:14,214 --> 01:05:15,516 in this kind of a case. 1286 01:05:16,517 --> 01:05:19,753 I'm always a pessimist when it comes to litigation. 1287 01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,956 I thought that our odds of winning a trial 1288 01:05:23,089 --> 01:05:24,925 were less than 50 percent. 1289 01:05:25,058 --> 01:05:26,259 Federal Court rules today 1290 01:05:26,392 --> 01:05:28,028 that Wisconsin state voting districts 1291 01:05:28,161 --> 01:05:30,731 drawn up by Republicans are unconstitutional. 1292 01:05:30,864 --> 01:05:33,466 I remember when it came out, immediately, I called Nick. 1293 01:05:33,734 --> 01:05:37,003 She just yelled out, you know, "We won, we won." 1294 01:05:37,170 --> 01:05:38,581 I was like, "You have to come right now, 1295 01:05:38,605 --> 01:05:40,106 I'm going to buy champagne." 1296 01:05:41,642 --> 01:05:45,679 We were absolutely delighted to actually see 1297 01:05:45,846 --> 01:05:47,247 a verdict in your favor, 1298 01:05:47,380 --> 01:05:48,982 you know, for the first time in 30 years. 1299 01:05:49,149 --> 01:05:50,283 It was awesome. 1300 01:06:01,494 --> 01:06:03,294 This is the single biggest case for the future 1301 01:06:03,363 --> 01:06:05,231 of our democracy since Citizens United. 1302 01:06:05,398 --> 01:06:09,235 This may be the last time we have an opportunity 1303 01:06:09,369 --> 01:06:11,905 to do something about partisan gerrymandering. 1304 01:06:12,205 --> 01:06:14,407 If they lose, it's no holds barred. 1305 01:06:32,626 --> 01:06:34,728 We'd like to thank you all for joining us 1306 01:06:34,861 --> 01:06:37,163 from near and far, crossing the country, 1307 01:06:37,297 --> 01:06:41,501 and crossing partisan lines to focus on solutions. 1308 01:06:44,505 --> 01:06:47,440 We're here at the Unrig the System Summit 1309 01:06:47,574 --> 01:06:50,176 and we are mostly just building connections. 1310 01:06:50,310 --> 01:06:51,950 That guy you were talking to said he would 1311 01:06:52,045 --> 01:06:53,614 introduce us to that funder. 1312 01:06:54,147 --> 01:06:55,415 We're all volunteers 1313 01:06:55,549 --> 01:06:57,117 and we've never done this before, 1314 01:06:57,250 --> 01:06:58,595 so we have a lot to learn from people. 1315 01:06:58,619 --> 01:06:59,920 ‐ Hey, Anna. ‐ Nice to meet you. 1316 01:07:00,053 --> 01:07:01,263 What organization are you with? 1317 01:07:01,287 --> 01:07:02,527 What's been really fun about it 1318 01:07:02,656 --> 01:07:04,257 is that everybody knows about us already. 1319 01:07:04,390 --> 01:07:05,892 We're kind of famous. 1320 01:07:06,026 --> 01:07:07,561 I'm trying to be modest about that. 1321 01:07:07,694 --> 01:07:08,995 ‐ Congratulations. ‐ Thank you. 1322 01:07:09,129 --> 01:07:10,363 Thank you. 1323 01:07:10,496 --> 01:07:11,932 ‐ On the app or... ‐ I'm a fan. 1324 01:07:12,065 --> 01:07:13,199 Oh, great. 1325 01:07:13,366 --> 01:07:14,476 I'm the director in Wisconsin. 1326 01:07:14,500 --> 01:07:15,545 Oh, awesome. Can we connect? 1327 01:07:15,569 --> 01:07:17,003 Can we first take a selfie? 1328 01:07:17,170 --> 01:07:18,648 Yes, please, please, that would be great. 1329 01:07:18,672 --> 01:07:20,874 Such amazing stuff just in being all volunteer, 1330 01:07:21,007 --> 01:07:23,176 and engaging people, it's really been amazing. 1331 01:07:23,309 --> 01:07:24,578 He is my lawyer. 1332 01:07:30,717 --> 01:07:32,352 I wish. 1333 01:07:33,019 --> 01:07:34,220 So, you got my text? 1334 01:07:34,387 --> 01:07:35,789 What was your text? 1335 01:07:35,922 --> 01:07:37,734 It's before you speak, Heather and I want to talk 1336 01:07:37,758 --> 01:07:40,360 to you about how to find a way to get a money pitch in. 1337 01:07:40,493 --> 01:07:41,928 If you talk about where we're at. 1338 01:07:42,062 --> 01:07:43,396 ‐ Just, I mean... ‐ Mm‐hmm. 1339 01:07:43,530 --> 01:07:45,374 That's how we're starting is "Where are you at?" 1340 01:07:45,398 --> 01:07:47,467 Where we're at, quite honestly where we're at 1341 01:07:47,601 --> 01:07:49,369 is we're waiting for the Board of Canvassers, 1342 01:07:49,502 --> 01:07:51,037 but frankly we're raising money. 1343 01:07:51,171 --> 01:07:52,472 I'm Katie Fahey, 1344 01:07:52,739 --> 01:07:54,908 I'm with an organization called Voters Not Politicians. 1345 01:07:55,041 --> 01:07:57,944 One of the things that they're now having to figure out 1346 01:07:58,078 --> 01:08:00,547 is how do we go from being 1347 01:08:00,681 --> 01:08:03,216 a citizen signature gathering effort 1348 01:08:03,416 --> 01:08:04,851 to a campaign? 1349 01:08:05,251 --> 01:08:07,187 And how do we start to talk to 1350 01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,289 a much broader universe of people, 1351 01:08:09,523 --> 01:08:11,925 some of whom will be told by the opposition 1352 01:08:12,058 --> 01:08:13,459 that this is a power grab 1353 01:08:13,594 --> 01:08:15,328 and you should never vote for it. 1354 01:08:19,099 --> 01:08:20,400 Yeah. 1355 01:08:24,905 --> 01:08:26,773 Fight, oh my god, we know. 1356 01:08:31,878 --> 01:08:33,179 What about 1357 01:08:33,446 --> 01:08:35,091 the Voters Not Politicians ballot proposal? 1358 01:08:35,115 --> 01:08:36,859 If that gets on the ballot, do you think it's going to pass, 1359 01:08:36,883 --> 01:08:38,885 and does that cause a big problem for Republicans 1360 01:08:39,019 --> 01:08:40,019 going forward? 1361 01:08:40,086 --> 01:08:41,254 I don't think it will pass, 1362 01:08:41,387 --> 01:08:42,867 but also when you talked in your intro 1363 01:08:42,923 --> 01:08:45,826 about, this is some 27‐year‐old miraculously came up 1364 01:08:45,992 --> 01:08:48,394 and organization came together, I don't believe it. 1365 01:08:48,529 --> 01:08:49,849 I believe when you peel behind it, 1366 01:08:49,963 --> 01:08:52,032 you are going to see that this has all been 1367 01:08:52,165 --> 01:08:53,333 constructed by Democrats. 1368 01:08:53,466 --> 01:08:54,906 ‐ But you think it will fail? ‐ I do. 1369 01:08:57,037 --> 01:09:01,007 The opposition is being led by Robert LaBrant. 1370 01:09:01,842 --> 01:09:04,077 LaBrant gets his start in politics working 1371 01:09:04,210 --> 01:09:05,445 for the Chamber of Commerce 1372 01:09:05,812 --> 01:09:09,482 and he is the maestro of redistricting in Michigan. 1373 01:09:09,650 --> 01:09:11,918 As far as ballot questions are concerned, 1374 01:09:12,052 --> 01:09:15,021 I've spent most of my summer trying to work out 1375 01:09:15,188 --> 01:09:19,092 a legal strategy to get one of the ballot question proposals 1376 01:09:19,225 --> 01:09:20,225 off the ballot. 1377 01:09:21,127 --> 01:09:24,097 LaBrant understood before anybody else 1378 01:09:24,230 --> 01:09:28,168 just how crucial these redistricting fights could be. 1379 01:09:28,301 --> 01:09:30,804 Every 10 years we do redistricting in Michigan 1380 01:09:30,937 --> 01:09:33,640 and I've kind of made that a kind of specialization. 1381 01:09:40,480 --> 01:09:44,250 Democrats tend to cluster in urban cities 1382 01:09:44,651 --> 01:09:48,254 and Republicans are kind of more evenly spread out. 1383 01:09:49,055 --> 01:09:51,825 In drawing district lines based upon 1384 01:09:51,958 --> 01:09:54,494 traditional redistricting criteria, 1385 01:09:54,661 --> 01:09:57,330 Democrats have a lot of wasted votes. 1386 01:09:57,898 --> 01:09:59,833 I don't think that's a direct result 1387 01:09:59,966 --> 01:10:03,436 of Republican gerrymandering, it's just a fact of life. 1388 01:10:08,642 --> 01:10:11,044 The real intent of LaBrant 1389 01:10:11,211 --> 01:10:13,346 and the other Republicans in Michigan 1390 01:10:13,580 --> 01:10:16,082 was revealed in a series of emails 1391 01:10:16,249 --> 01:10:19,553 exchanged between them during the redistricting process 1392 01:10:19,686 --> 01:10:20,987 in 2011. 1393 01:10:41,441 --> 01:10:43,777 The emails show that they gerrymandered 1394 01:10:43,910 --> 01:10:45,612 the state intentionally. 1395 01:11:05,131 --> 01:11:07,568 So, for everyone who doesn't know, 1396 01:11:07,701 --> 01:11:10,103 we've gotten sued officially. 1397 01:11:10,336 --> 01:11:13,507 Um, they have filed a suit with the court of appeals 1398 01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:16,209 saying that our petition touches too many parts 1399 01:11:16,342 --> 01:11:17,477 of the constitution, 1400 01:11:17,844 --> 01:11:20,246 and so it's a wholesale revision and not something 1401 01:11:20,380 --> 01:11:24,484 that's appropriate for a ballot initiative. 1402 01:11:24,818 --> 01:11:27,487 Any time you want to change something in Michigan, 1403 01:11:27,754 --> 01:11:31,324 any time you want to have a citizen‐led effort 1404 01:11:31,457 --> 01:11:33,927 to take back control over what's happening 1405 01:11:34,060 --> 01:11:35,195 in state government, 1406 01:11:35,328 --> 01:11:36,763 you better come with a lot of money 1407 01:11:36,997 --> 01:11:39,800 because there's going to be a lot of money on the opposition 1408 01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:43,103 funding their lawyers to challenge everything. 1409 01:11:44,104 --> 01:11:47,473 This move is another one of those fundamental things 1410 01:11:47,608 --> 01:11:49,209 that's wrong with our democracy. 1411 01:11:49,342 --> 01:11:51,878 It's one of those things where, like, it's not really right. 1412 01:11:52,012 --> 01:11:54,815 Like, we have the right to petition our government, 1413 01:11:54,948 --> 01:11:56,983 and gather signatures, and get it on the ballot, 1414 01:11:57,117 --> 01:12:00,153 and then they're trying to do, like say that we can't. 1415 01:12:00,420 --> 01:12:02,098 Although we knew we were going to get sued, 1416 01:12:02,122 --> 01:12:03,924 it's not right that we are. 1417 01:12:11,164 --> 01:12:13,767 Hey, everybody, I wanted to do an update. 1418 01:12:13,900 --> 01:12:16,703 Normally I do this either on a Facebook Live, 1419 01:12:16,837 --> 01:12:22,208 or with an interview group, or a number of things. 1420 01:12:22,342 --> 01:12:27,514 You know, like an hour ago I was feeling so good. 1421 01:12:27,648 --> 01:12:29,115 Point of pride that I've always had 1422 01:12:29,249 --> 01:12:31,552 is that we've done things the way that, like, 1423 01:12:31,685 --> 01:12:33,854 you hope that they're done. Um... 1424 01:12:39,860 --> 01:12:41,795 I think that with this court case 1425 01:12:41,928 --> 01:12:46,499 it's made it feel really real that... 1426 01:12:59,846 --> 01:13:04,084 there's a lot of power out there that controls a lot 1427 01:13:04,217 --> 01:13:06,620 of things that you don't get to be in control over, 1428 01:13:06,753 --> 01:13:08,513 that you can try and work as hard as you can, 1429 01:13:08,589 --> 01:13:09,956 but, you know, 1430 01:13:10,090 --> 01:13:12,893 a misplaced comma or a word can throw things out. 1431 01:13:13,026 --> 01:13:16,262 And it feels really real right now, 1432 01:13:16,462 --> 01:13:22,536 the pressure feels on, um, because... 1433 01:13:30,376 --> 01:13:32,412 what if something does happen? 1434 01:13:34,047 --> 01:13:37,584 What if it's not possible for a group of people 1435 01:13:37,718 --> 01:13:39,820 to band together and... 1436 01:13:41,988 --> 01:13:44,057 try as hard as they can and... 1437 01:13:45,759 --> 01:13:47,928 what if it still doesn't matter? 1438 01:13:52,498 --> 01:13:54,535 I don't want to disappoint anybody. 1439 01:14:10,917 --> 01:14:13,386 The U. S. Supreme Court will now decide 1440 01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:17,223 whether the maps that determine who you vote for 1441 01:14:17,390 --> 01:14:18,659 are constitutional. 1442 01:14:18,892 --> 01:14:21,094 The case on partisan gerrymandering 1443 01:14:21,261 --> 01:14:24,330 has the potential to reshape American politics 1444 01:14:24,464 --> 01:14:25,699 as we know it. 1445 01:14:29,636 --> 01:14:30,737 Hey, Peter. 1446 01:14:31,171 --> 01:14:32,205 Hello. 1447 01:14:32,806 --> 01:14:34,708 ‐ Welcome. ‐ Good to see you guys. 1448 01:14:34,841 --> 01:14:36,142 Hey, welcome. 1449 01:14:36,276 --> 01:14:37,644 Okay, we'll get the lawyers in now. 1450 01:14:37,778 --> 01:14:38,778 All right, lawyers. 1451 01:14:38,812 --> 01:14:39,613 With you, with you. 1452 01:14:39,746 --> 01:14:40,914 Stay, stay, stay. 1453 01:14:41,214 --> 01:14:42,749 One more, look serious, 1454 01:14:42,883 --> 01:14:44,323 like you're trying to save democracy. 1455 01:14:45,752 --> 01:14:47,654 This is what democracy looks like. 1456 01:14:53,093 --> 01:14:54,403 It's a little weird to have so much 1457 01:14:54,427 --> 01:14:55,696 of the world focusing on this. 1458 01:14:55,896 --> 01:14:57,731 I got woken up at 6:30 with my dad calling me 1459 01:14:57,898 --> 01:15:00,667 saying that he saw Nick, my co‐counsel and husband, 1460 01:15:00,801 --> 01:15:03,604 on Australian TV talking about the case. 1461 01:15:05,105 --> 01:15:07,340 We've had a countdown on our whiteboard in Chicago. 1462 01:15:07,473 --> 01:15:09,218 Somebody rang me and was like, "Oh, don't you have 1463 01:15:09,242 --> 01:15:10,882 a case in the next, you know, few months?" 1464 01:15:10,977 --> 01:15:14,114 I was like, "It's in five days, now it's four days." 1465 01:15:14,380 --> 01:15:15,381 Yeah, we're nearly there. 1466 01:15:21,087 --> 01:15:22,422 Um, so how about this? 1467 01:15:22,589 --> 01:15:23,790 As this case illustrated, 1468 01:15:23,924 --> 01:15:25,659 it's now possible to draw a district map 1469 01:15:25,792 --> 01:15:27,694 that is so extremely and durably biased 1470 01:15:27,828 --> 01:15:30,296 that democracy itself is gravely compromised? 1471 01:15:31,264 --> 01:15:33,534 Paul is the best possible person 1472 01:15:33,667 --> 01:15:34,935 in America to do this. 1473 01:15:35,401 --> 01:15:36,737 He is one of the country's 1474 01:15:36,870 --> 01:15:39,172 best respected Supreme Court specialists 1475 01:15:39,740 --> 01:15:41,775 who also has a particular expertise 1476 01:15:41,908 --> 01:15:44,010 in election law and redistricting. 1477 01:15:44,144 --> 01:15:45,712 You look at the first election, 1478 01:15:45,846 --> 01:15:46,947 you do sensitivity testing, 1479 01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:48,615 what does the sensitivity testing 1480 01:15:48,749 --> 01:15:49,783 have to show? 1481 01:15:49,916 --> 01:15:51,652 For the Plaintiff to win? 1482 01:15:51,785 --> 01:15:53,019 ‐ Yes. ‐ Uh... 1483 01:15:53,153 --> 01:15:55,155 That over a plausible range of outcomes... 1484 01:15:55,288 --> 01:15:57,066 I think everybody gets nervous before they argue 1485 01:15:57,090 --> 01:15:58,692 in the Supreme Court. 1486 01:15:58,825 --> 01:16:01,427 The most important thing is to be extremely well prepared 1487 01:16:02,028 --> 01:16:03,864 and know what you're going to say first. 1488 01:16:03,997 --> 01:16:05,908 Because once you start talking, it's usually okay. 1489 01:16:05,932 --> 01:16:07,910 What you want to do is get to the green light point, 1490 01:16:07,934 --> 01:16:09,679 which is basically, "This court therefore has a choice, 1491 01:16:09,703 --> 01:16:11,263 either use the standards we've given you 1492 01:16:11,371 --> 01:16:14,074 to limit this abusive practice, or give a green light 1493 01:16:14,207 --> 01:16:16,109 to the gerrymanderers to have at it." 1494 01:16:17,277 --> 01:16:20,180 ‐ I like have at it. ‐ I do too. 1495 01:16:25,586 --> 01:16:27,588 We got very close to winning the Vieth case, 1496 01:16:27,721 --> 01:16:29,055 as it became known. 1497 01:16:29,322 --> 01:16:32,392 We got four votes to say that the map was unconstitutional. 1498 01:16:32,693 --> 01:16:34,127 There were four votes to say 1499 01:16:34,260 --> 01:16:35,896 that the issue is a political question 1500 01:16:36,029 --> 01:16:37,549 that shouldn't be in the courts at all. 1501 01:16:37,664 --> 01:16:39,533 That was the opinion written by Justice Scalia. 1502 01:16:39,666 --> 01:16:40,666 The basic problem 1503 01:16:40,734 --> 01:16:42,202 is that some degree 1504 01:16:42,368 --> 01:16:44,288 of political motivation and affect in districting 1505 01:16:44,404 --> 01:16:46,139 is not unconstitutional. 1506 01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:47,908 And then there was Justice Kennedy, 1507 01:16:48,041 --> 01:16:49,710 who was in the middle. 1508 01:16:56,082 --> 01:16:58,852 Kennedy is telling the legal community 1509 01:16:58,985 --> 01:17:00,521 and the social science community, 1510 01:17:00,654 --> 01:17:02,122 you know, "I'm interested. 1511 01:17:02,255 --> 01:17:06,860 I'm willing to tackle this undemocratic practice, 1512 01:17:06,993 --> 01:17:11,364 but I need some assurance that there's a reliable, 1513 01:17:11,497 --> 01:17:12,799 workable test." 1514 01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:15,168 And so at the moment 1515 01:17:15,536 --> 01:17:17,971 fighting partisan gerrymandering in the courts 1516 01:17:18,104 --> 01:17:19,973 means coming up with a standard 1517 01:17:20,106 --> 01:17:22,208 that would be persuasive to Justice Kennedy. 1518 01:17:23,409 --> 01:17:25,712 We could not have done more to answer 1519 01:17:25,846 --> 01:17:27,881 that call for a standard. 1520 01:17:28,014 --> 01:17:30,350 To say, "This is the case, if there's any case 1521 01:17:30,617 --> 01:17:32,018 in which you have to draw the line 1522 01:17:32,152 --> 01:17:34,054 and say it's unconstitutional and wrong." 1523 01:17:38,859 --> 01:17:40,961 There are few times in your life 1524 01:17:41,094 --> 01:17:42,763 when you get to particularly be my age, 1525 01:17:42,996 --> 01:17:44,364 you look back and you say, 1526 01:17:44,497 --> 01:17:46,466 you know, "There were times when I could have made 1527 01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:49,069 a difference and did I step up to the plate 1528 01:17:49,202 --> 01:17:51,371 and do what I really needed to do 1529 01:17:51,538 --> 01:17:52,939 and have the courage to do it?" 1530 01:17:53,073 --> 01:17:55,542 And the plaintiffs in this case 1531 01:17:55,809 --> 01:17:57,243 stood up for what they believed in. 1532 01:17:57,477 --> 01:17:59,646 We are at a real crossroads and I think the window 1533 01:17:59,780 --> 01:18:02,583 is going to close on whether or not we can really bring about 1534 01:18:02,716 --> 01:18:03,884 this reform 1535 01:18:04,017 --> 01:18:05,919 if we don't get it done in this case. 1536 01:18:09,690 --> 01:18:11,457 All eyes will be on the U. S. Supreme Court 1537 01:18:11,592 --> 01:18:14,227 as it hears a Wisconsin case challenging the way 1538 01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:16,863 the state's legislative districts are drawn. 1539 01:18:16,997 --> 01:18:18,464 The legal question is, 1540 01:18:18,599 --> 01:18:20,801 can we even measure this? Should we get into it? 1541 01:18:20,967 --> 01:18:23,837 Is this a political question that we should stay out of? 1542 01:18:24,270 --> 01:18:28,008 And can we define what's extreme gerrymandering? 1543 01:18:28,208 --> 01:18:29,843 ‐ Rise up! ‐ Fight back! 1544 01:18:29,976 --> 01:18:33,446 ‐ Rise up! ‐ Fight back! 1545 01:18:33,580 --> 01:18:35,315 It's a fixed system. 1546 01:18:35,549 --> 01:18:37,618 It's a fixed system, that's what gerrymandering 1547 01:18:37,751 --> 01:18:38,985 is all about. 1548 01:18:39,185 --> 01:18:41,421 Congress will never, ever fix this problem 1549 01:18:41,688 --> 01:18:44,157 because they have one interest and one interest only 1550 01:18:44,290 --> 01:18:46,059 and this is to stay in power. 1551 01:18:48,629 --> 01:18:51,031 Mr. Chief Justice and may it please the court, 1552 01:18:51,397 --> 01:18:53,967 what the state is asking for here is a free pass 1553 01:18:54,100 --> 01:18:55,836 to continue using an assembly map 1554 01:18:55,969 --> 01:18:57,303 that is so extreme 1555 01:18:57,503 --> 01:18:59,439 that it effectively nullifies democracy. 1556 01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:56,096 Hi, everyone, I'm Paul Smith, 1557 01:19:56,229 --> 01:19:59,265 I argued the case this morning for the plaintiffs 1558 01:19:59,399 --> 01:20:00,399 from Wisconsin. 1559 01:20:00,734 --> 01:20:04,538 We hope that the court will see its way clear to say 1560 01:20:04,671 --> 01:20:07,107 this is not only a constitutional violation, 1561 01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:09,610 it's a constitutional violation for which there is 1562 01:20:09,743 --> 01:20:12,278 a meaningful judicial remedy. 1563 01:20:15,115 --> 01:20:16,715 One thing I don't do is come out in front 1564 01:20:16,750 --> 01:20:18,952 of a bunch of cameras and predict Justice's votes, 1565 01:20:19,085 --> 01:20:21,755 but I do think he understood our position 1566 01:20:21,888 --> 01:20:23,168 and that he seems quite concerned 1567 01:20:23,256 --> 01:20:25,425 about where the country is right now. 1568 01:20:25,759 --> 01:20:26,827 Thank you, everybody. 1569 01:20:27,393 --> 01:20:28,762 There were some great lines, 1570 01:20:28,895 --> 01:20:29,972 did you think of them yesterday? 1571 01:20:29,996 --> 01:20:31,197 Just real zingers. 1572 01:20:31,331 --> 01:20:33,066 Like the festival of gerrymandering 1573 01:20:33,199 --> 01:20:35,435 the likes of which we have never seen. 1574 01:20:39,205 --> 01:20:41,207 Well you heard Justice Sotomayor's comments, 1575 01:20:41,341 --> 01:20:43,910 you know, I mean you did this, and then you did this, 1576 01:20:44,077 --> 01:20:45,717 and then you did this to really ratchet up 1577 01:20:45,846 --> 01:20:47,080 the representation. 1578 01:20:47,213 --> 01:20:48,693 That was all based on the spreadsheets 1579 01:20:48,749 --> 01:20:50,751 that you had recovered for us on the hard drives. 1580 01:20:51,184 --> 01:20:54,020 I'm glad it worked out, fingers crossed, we'll see. 1581 01:21:04,364 --> 01:21:07,333 I do want to say that you get to be a star 1582 01:21:07,467 --> 01:21:09,903 of the day one day if you're a Supreme Court guy. 1583 01:21:10,070 --> 01:21:12,573 But the case is made in the trenches 1584 01:21:12,739 --> 01:21:17,177 and this case was really made with all of you, 1585 01:21:17,310 --> 01:21:18,845 the plaintiffs, the lawyers. 1586 01:21:18,979 --> 01:21:20,313 If we didn't have that foundation, 1587 01:21:20,446 --> 01:21:22,058 we wouldn't have been in the Supreme Court. 1588 01:21:22,082 --> 01:21:24,651 So hope springs, we're going to do it. 1589 01:21:24,785 --> 01:21:25,852 Thank you, everybody. 1590 01:21:31,992 --> 01:21:34,861 We have brought together some of the best minds 1591 01:21:35,061 --> 01:21:36,763 in the legal community... 1592 01:21:37,463 --> 01:21:39,465 and we have studied, so carefully, 1593 01:21:39,700 --> 01:21:42,102 the Supreme Court's jurisprudence on this question 1594 01:21:42,235 --> 01:21:43,537 and built an evidentiary record 1595 01:21:43,670 --> 01:21:47,641 that is so complete that I'm confident 1596 01:21:47,774 --> 01:21:48,909 we're going to win, 1597 01:21:49,075 --> 01:21:50,355 I'm confident we're going to win. 1598 01:21:50,711 --> 01:21:53,647 I'll tell you, the future of our democracy depends on it. 1599 01:22:06,492 --> 01:22:08,028 Here we go, somebody says, 1600 01:22:08,228 --> 01:22:09,606 "Is there any chance of the gerrymandering cases 1601 01:22:09,630 --> 01:22:10,630 being decided today?" 1602 01:22:10,731 --> 01:22:11,898 Of course there is. 1603 01:22:12,098 --> 01:22:13,834 I mean, so I think we're mentally prepared 1604 01:22:14,067 --> 01:22:15,747 for a win, obviously it's fantastic, right? 1605 01:22:15,869 --> 01:22:18,605 But we've talked over the loss like so many times 1606 01:22:18,739 --> 01:22:21,174 that I think we're prepared if that happens. 1607 01:22:21,708 --> 01:22:22,809 9:00 o'clock sharp. 1608 01:22:22,943 --> 01:22:24,377 Okay, come on. 1609 01:22:27,614 --> 01:22:30,283 Last decision, Washington v. United Sates? 1610 01:22:30,684 --> 01:22:32,285 What's Washington v. United States? 1611 01:22:32,418 --> 01:22:34,018 I don't know, but that means it's not us. 1612 01:22:34,154 --> 01:22:35,155 All right. 1613 01:22:35,321 --> 01:22:36,422 We can relax. 1614 01:22:36,557 --> 01:22:38,291 Okay, I bet it's next Monday. 1615 01:22:39,359 --> 01:22:41,437 I don't know why I'm so calm now that I think about it, 1616 01:22:41,461 --> 01:22:43,463 it's going to be very stressful if it comes. 1617 01:22:43,797 --> 01:22:44,998 I just think it's not. 1618 01:22:45,165 --> 01:22:46,843 I just had a very detailed dream that like, 1619 01:22:46,867 --> 01:22:49,970 Roberts announced the opinion, just like, you know, 1620 01:22:50,103 --> 01:22:51,605 went after us on standing. 1621 01:22:51,872 --> 01:22:54,541 Like ruled against us on every single possible issue. 1622 01:22:54,675 --> 01:22:56,442 I think it's called a nightmare, Nick. 1623 01:22:58,278 --> 01:23:00,313 Second Minnesota Voters Alliance. 1624 01:23:00,446 --> 01:23:02,816 Oh, Mansky is reversed and remanded. 1625 01:23:02,983 --> 01:23:04,217 Is that it? 1626 01:23:04,484 --> 01:23:05,528 Second and final opinion, oh yeah, we're done. 1627 01:23:05,552 --> 01:23:06,920 Woo‐hoo! 1628 01:23:07,053 --> 01:23:08,173 ‐ Not today. ‐ That's a wrap. 1629 01:23:18,398 --> 01:23:19,600 Need more coffee. 1630 01:23:21,802 --> 01:23:22,869 I bet this is happening. 1631 01:23:23,036 --> 01:23:24,504 Ah! Don't freak me out. 1632 01:23:25,471 --> 01:23:27,508 But I'm excited, but I'm scared, but I'm excited. 1633 01:23:27,708 --> 01:23:29,976 Is Annabelle coming here if there's a decision, just now? 1634 01:23:30,110 --> 01:23:32,112 ‐ Mm‐hmm. ‐ All right. 1635 01:23:33,847 --> 01:23:36,617 Oh my God, it's our case, oh my God, 1636 01:23:36,750 --> 01:23:38,451 it's Gill from the Chief Justice. 1637 01:23:38,585 --> 01:23:40,854 Holy shit, oh my God, look. 1638 01:23:43,089 --> 01:23:44,490 Look. 1639 01:23:48,228 --> 01:23:49,462 Quiet. 1640 01:23:50,096 --> 01:23:51,532 Holy shit, it's ours. 1641 01:23:52,398 --> 01:23:54,034 Oh my God, I'm going to be sick. 1642 01:23:54,167 --> 01:23:55,435 It is Gill, it is Roberts. 1643 01:23:55,769 --> 01:23:57,313 ‐ F‐‐‐, why is it Roberts? ‐ What is it? What is it? 1644 01:23:57,337 --> 01:23:58,605 Okay, it's here, it's here. 1645 01:24:00,006 --> 01:24:01,975 You know the decision is long and complex, 1646 01:24:02,108 --> 01:24:04,010 but a quick read of it tells me that essentially 1647 01:24:04,177 --> 01:24:06,647 what the court has said is that these plaintiffs 1648 01:24:06,780 --> 01:24:09,683 did not prove that they had standing 1649 01:24:09,916 --> 01:24:12,786 and individualized harm to bring the case. 1650 01:24:12,919 --> 01:24:15,556 This morning, the Supreme Court not ruling 1651 01:24:15,689 --> 01:24:18,959 on partisan gerrymandering, not putting forth a test 1652 01:24:19,092 --> 01:24:20,293 as to when to determine 1653 01:24:20,426 --> 01:24:22,462 there has been partisan gerrymandering, 1654 01:24:22,596 --> 01:24:25,365 and really sort of punting this issue for another day. 1655 01:24:25,566 --> 01:24:26,900 ‐ No! ‐ F‐‐‐ you. 1656 01:24:27,167 --> 01:24:28,334 F‐‐‐ you. 1657 01:24:28,669 --> 01:24:31,371 "Failed to demonstrate Article 3 standing." 1658 01:24:31,672 --> 01:24:32,906 F‐‐‐, damn them. 1659 01:24:33,039 --> 01:24:35,642 Really, like that's your f‐‐‐ing decision ground? 1660 01:24:36,442 --> 01:24:38,444 Now the Supreme Court did say 1661 01:24:38,579 --> 01:24:40,480 that the challengers can try again 1662 01:24:40,614 --> 01:24:42,048 to see if they can overcome 1663 01:24:42,182 --> 01:24:43,560 the legal obstacle of getting through 1664 01:24:43,584 --> 01:24:45,285 the courthouse door achieving standing, 1665 01:24:45,418 --> 01:24:47,353 showing that they have a particular injury 1666 01:24:47,487 --> 01:24:49,556 and this case does go back to the lower courts. 1667 01:24:49,690 --> 01:24:51,992 Oh, wait, so it is vacated and remanded. 1668 01:24:52,358 --> 01:24:53,598 Oh, it is vacated and remanded? 1669 01:24:53,627 --> 01:24:54,828 Yeah, to go back, let's see. 1670 01:24:54,961 --> 01:24:56,162 Oh, wait. 1671 01:24:56,563 --> 01:24:58,040 We might be still alive, it might be that like, 1672 01:24:58,064 --> 01:25:00,233 "Okay, you have to go back and technically like get 1673 01:25:00,366 --> 01:25:02,836 some more plaintiffs with some more allegations." 1674 01:25:06,339 --> 01:25:07,874 So, did you win or lose? 1675 01:25:08,008 --> 01:25:10,911 So, the court says that in order to pursue a claim 1676 01:25:11,044 --> 01:25:14,548 like ours, you need to identify specific people, 1677 01:25:14,681 --> 01:25:19,052 specific voters who live in cracked or packed districts. 1678 01:25:19,219 --> 01:25:22,155 It's not enough to just assert exclusively 1679 01:25:22,288 --> 01:25:24,357 a statewide harm or a statewide injury. 1680 01:25:24,490 --> 01:25:26,527 We have some plaintiffs ready to go, 1681 01:25:26,660 --> 01:25:28,328 we are ready to amend our complaint, 1682 01:25:28,461 --> 01:25:29,730 and move forward. 1683 01:25:29,863 --> 01:25:32,098 So it's not, I mean, it's not a disaster, 1684 01:25:32,232 --> 01:25:33,667 it's just frustrating timewise. 1685 01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:35,160 I can't tell, are you disappointed, 1686 01:25:35,201 --> 01:25:36,369 are you not disappointed? 1687 01:25:36,502 --> 01:25:38,238 This is far from the worst scenario. 1688 01:25:38,371 --> 01:25:40,240 Yes, I mean, it's frustrating because we want 1689 01:25:40,373 --> 01:25:41,642 to just win, right? 1690 01:25:41,775 --> 01:25:43,185 Obviously, we want to just freaking win. 1691 01:25:43,209 --> 01:25:45,245 But it's not a loss, right? 1692 01:25:45,411 --> 01:25:47,051 I mean we haven't lost, we're still going, 1693 01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:48,658 we still have things to say, and it suggests we're going 1694 01:25:48,682 --> 01:25:50,242 to eventually win, which is a good sign. 1695 01:25:50,283 --> 01:25:51,694 Yeah, I would say, too, that like, you know, 1696 01:25:51,718 --> 01:25:53,820 before today, my estimate of our odds 1697 01:25:53,987 --> 01:25:56,557 of ultimately winning was below 50 percent. 1698 01:25:56,690 --> 01:25:58,458 Now I think it's above 50 percent 1699 01:25:58,592 --> 01:26:00,193 our odds of ultimately winning. 1700 01:26:03,229 --> 01:26:04,731 We continue to follow 1701 01:26:04,865 --> 01:26:06,800 that bombshell announcement out of Washington. 1702 01:26:07,033 --> 01:26:10,036 Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy is retiring. 1703 01:26:10,170 --> 01:26:12,773 The 81‐year‐old was nominated by President Reagan 1704 01:26:12,906 --> 01:26:14,508 and served on the country's highest court 1705 01:26:14,641 --> 01:26:16,409 for more than 30 years. 1706 01:26:17,844 --> 01:26:20,213 There is really no way to sugar coat it. 1707 01:26:20,514 --> 01:26:22,082 The retirement of Anthony Kennedy 1708 01:26:22,215 --> 01:26:23,884 was terrible news for those people 1709 01:26:24,017 --> 01:26:26,820 that wanted to see the court do something positive 1710 01:26:27,053 --> 01:26:28,121 on gerrymandering. 1711 01:26:28,321 --> 01:26:30,490 He was the only conservative justice 1712 01:26:30,757 --> 01:26:32,526 that was at least open minded 1713 01:26:32,726 --> 01:26:34,895 about finding a solution on this issue 1714 01:26:35,028 --> 01:26:36,028 and now he is gone. 1715 01:26:37,197 --> 01:26:39,733 It is now obvious that the Supreme Court 1716 01:26:39,866 --> 01:26:42,502 is not going to be our savior on partisan gerrymandering. 1717 01:26:42,636 --> 01:26:45,639 We may have to be our own saviors. 1718 01:26:46,106 --> 01:26:49,409 People are trying to take back these district lines 1719 01:26:49,543 --> 01:26:51,177 that have been rigged against them. 1720 01:26:51,444 --> 01:26:54,347 They want a fair playing field. 1721 01:26:59,853 --> 01:27:02,856 The hope lies now at the state level. 1722 01:27:03,156 --> 01:27:07,093 We are seeing around the country, Michigan, Utah, 1723 01:27:07,227 --> 01:27:12,432 Colorado, Ohio, Missouri, there are citizen pathways 1724 01:27:12,566 --> 01:27:14,267 moving forward. 1725 01:27:14,568 --> 01:27:16,288 These are red states, these are blue states, 1726 01:27:16,336 --> 01:27:17,604 these are purple states. 1727 01:27:17,804 --> 01:27:19,305 These are states that went for Trump, 1728 01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:21,307 these are states that went for Clinton. 1729 01:27:21,875 --> 01:27:25,846 This is going to be the battlefield moving forward. 1730 01:27:31,785 --> 01:27:33,587 The Michigan Supreme Court 1731 01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:36,356 is about to have a political hot mess 1732 01:27:36,489 --> 01:27:37,691 dumped on its lap. 1733 01:27:37,924 --> 01:27:39,593 The Michigan Court of Appeals 1734 01:27:39,726 --> 01:27:41,828 said the ballot question meets the legal requirements 1735 01:27:42,028 --> 01:27:44,464 and the voters should decide in November. 1736 01:27:44,598 --> 01:27:46,366 But the challengers now plan 1737 01:27:46,499 --> 01:27:48,702 to go to the state Supreme Court. 1738 01:27:56,442 --> 01:27:58,111 ‐ Hey. ‐ How are you doing? 1739 01:27:58,278 --> 01:27:59,445 Good, how are you? 1740 01:27:59,613 --> 01:28:00,990 Good, do you mind if I chat with you 1741 01:28:01,014 --> 01:28:02,494 ‐ for a few minutes? ‐ No, not at all. 1742 01:28:02,616 --> 01:28:04,093 Great, so how do you feel about today? 1743 01:28:04,117 --> 01:28:05,218 We feel good. 1744 01:28:05,351 --> 01:28:06,219 You know, it's exciting to be here 1745 01:28:06,352 --> 01:28:07,521 at the Hall of Justice. 1746 01:28:07,821 --> 01:28:09,499 We had a really strong Court of Appeals opinion, 1747 01:28:09,523 --> 01:28:11,491 3‐0 decision saying our opposition's case 1748 01:28:11,625 --> 01:28:13,560 is without merit and we have every confidence 1749 01:28:13,694 --> 01:28:16,062 that we'll remain on the ballot on November 6th. 1750 01:28:18,532 --> 01:28:21,868 I remember distinctly when we were doing our town halls 1751 01:28:22,068 --> 01:28:24,037 that one of the top questions I received was, 1752 01:28:24,170 --> 01:28:25,772 isn't it impossible to do this? 1753 01:28:25,939 --> 01:28:27,517 Like, isn't it‐‐ Aren't you going to get challenged 1754 01:28:27,541 --> 01:28:28,742 by the Supreme Court anyways? 1755 01:28:28,875 --> 01:28:30,186 So, we don't even have language yet, 1756 01:28:30,210 --> 01:28:31,344 we haven't like whatever, 1757 01:28:31,477 --> 01:28:32,717 and like the people of Michigan 1758 01:28:32,846 --> 01:28:34,380 were already really worried about that 1759 01:28:34,515 --> 01:28:36,717 because we consistently have seen 1760 01:28:37,150 --> 01:28:40,053 opposition wanting to undermine this process. 1761 01:28:40,186 --> 01:28:41,522 Good morning. 1762 01:28:41,855 --> 01:28:44,015 This is a special session of the Michigan Supreme Court 1763 01:28:44,057 --> 01:28:46,593 to address an emergency election matter. 1764 01:28:47,861 --> 01:28:50,296 The scary part is that the Michigan Supreme Court 1765 01:28:50,463 --> 01:28:51,865 is a political body. 1766 01:28:52,132 --> 01:28:55,035 Our judges get nominated from political parties. 1767 01:28:55,468 --> 01:28:58,572 Five of them were nominated from the Republicans 1768 01:28:58,905 --> 01:29:01,474 and two of them came from the Democrat side. 1769 01:29:02,175 --> 01:29:04,978 We know that the Michigan GOP is applying a lot of pressure 1770 01:29:05,111 --> 01:29:07,648 to let them know how they would like them to rule. 1771 01:29:08,148 --> 01:29:10,250 The constitution is very clear 1772 01:29:10,383 --> 01:29:13,654 that the people are the source of all governmental power 1773 01:29:13,787 --> 01:29:16,623 and they have the ability to define how the government 1774 01:29:16,757 --> 01:29:18,058 is going to be set up. 1775 01:29:18,324 --> 01:29:20,293 At the expense of the people having their right 1776 01:29:20,426 --> 01:29:22,128 to elect representatives as they've done 1777 01:29:22,262 --> 01:29:23,597 for two generations. 1778 01:29:24,064 --> 01:29:25,566 I don't believe this infringes that 1779 01:29:25,699 --> 01:29:26,933 whatsoever, Your Honor. 1780 01:29:27,067 --> 01:29:30,103 It substitutes 13 citizens chosen at random 1781 01:29:30,403 --> 01:29:33,674 across this state in place of a process in which 1782 01:29:33,807 --> 01:29:36,843 10 million people have a direct participation 1783 01:29:37,010 --> 01:29:39,379 in the process by electing their representatives 1784 01:29:39,513 --> 01:29:40,647 and senators. 1785 01:29:40,781 --> 01:29:42,716 Is that not somewhat consequential? 1786 01:29:42,916 --> 01:29:44,818 I suppose the question is whether they decide 1787 01:29:45,018 --> 01:29:47,287 that they want the legislature to have this power, 1788 01:29:47,420 --> 01:29:48,589 or a commission, 1789 01:29:48,722 --> 01:29:50,042 or to do it in some other fashion? 1790 01:29:50,123 --> 01:29:53,259 All power in our state and in our nation 1791 01:29:53,393 --> 01:29:55,028 is derived from the people, right? 1792 01:29:56,129 --> 01:29:58,164 Are there any further questions? 1793 01:29:58,298 --> 01:29:59,900 We stand adjourned. 1794 01:30:02,803 --> 01:30:04,270 Yeah, sounds great. 1795 01:30:04,838 --> 01:30:06,206 How are you doing? 1796 01:30:06,339 --> 01:30:07,339 Logged a big day, eh? 1797 01:30:07,440 --> 01:30:08,440 Yeah. 1798 01:30:08,509 --> 01:30:09,552 Let's go here with the people... 1799 01:30:09,576 --> 01:30:10,677 Okay, sounds good. 1800 01:30:10,811 --> 01:30:11,821 So this is really a fight against 1801 01:30:11,845 --> 01:30:13,113 status quo and change? 1802 01:30:13,580 --> 01:30:14,715 I believe it is. 1803 01:30:15,148 --> 01:30:16,693 Actually, I think it's a fight about whether the people 1804 01:30:16,717 --> 01:30:18,018 of Michigan can be trusted 1805 01:30:18,151 --> 01:30:19,620 to amend own constitution or not. 1806 01:30:19,753 --> 01:30:22,488 I feel like we were fairly heard, 1807 01:30:22,623 --> 01:30:24,357 and that we left it on the table, 1808 01:30:24,525 --> 01:30:29,530 and I think that what I heard was that our constitution 1809 01:30:30,196 --> 01:30:33,600 is enshrined in letting the people of our state 1810 01:30:33,734 --> 01:30:35,235 decide these issues. 1811 01:30:35,536 --> 01:30:36,803 Thanks, guys. 1812 01:30:50,250 --> 01:30:51,618 Sit down, sit down. 1813 01:30:51,752 --> 01:30:54,220 Oh my God, Jenny, calm down. 1814 01:31:14,575 --> 01:31:16,076 We have an election to win. 1815 01:31:16,276 --> 01:31:18,679 We know that our opposition now knows that we are an army 1816 01:31:18,812 --> 01:31:21,815 and that we can apply pressure in ways that they can't. 1817 01:31:21,948 --> 01:31:23,917 It is time to make it so that we get 1818 01:31:24,050 --> 01:31:26,319 way over two million votes for voting yes 1819 01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:28,021 and so that people know what 1820 01:31:28,154 --> 01:31:30,356 an Independent Citizens Redistricting Commission 1821 01:31:30,490 --> 01:31:31,725 can mean for Michigan. 1822 01:31:31,892 --> 01:31:34,460 It is time to knock some doors. 1823 01:31:34,828 --> 01:31:37,397 Good morning, I'm a volunteer 1824 01:31:37,531 --> 01:31:39,733 from Voters Not Politicians. 1825 01:31:39,933 --> 01:31:43,904 Hi, we're volunteers with Voters Not Politicians. 1826 01:31:47,307 --> 01:31:49,743 I want to congratulate the people of Michigan 1827 01:31:50,076 --> 01:31:52,278 for the great choice and the great vote 1828 01:31:52,412 --> 01:31:53,947 of the Supreme Court. 1829 01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:57,083 So that the people move forward with the initiative 1830 01:31:57,350 --> 01:31:59,853 and to have redistricting happening in Michigan 1831 01:32:00,020 --> 01:32:02,789 because it's the voters versus the politicians, 1832 01:32:02,923 --> 01:32:04,123 that's what this is all about. 1833 01:32:04,190 --> 01:32:06,092 We've got to go and vote for the voters, 1834 01:32:06,226 --> 01:32:07,260 not the politicians. 1835 01:32:07,493 --> 01:32:10,230 That's awesome. What? 1836 01:32:13,266 --> 01:32:15,001 Proposal 2 is on the ballot, 1837 01:32:15,135 --> 01:32:17,671 Katie Fahey is supporting the proposal 1838 01:32:17,838 --> 01:32:19,706 and of course conservative Republican Jamie Roe 1839 01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:21,007 doesn't like it at all. 1840 01:32:21,141 --> 01:32:23,376 Democrats lose races in this state 1841 01:32:23,510 --> 01:32:24,754 because they have bad candidates, 1842 01:32:24,778 --> 01:32:26,479 not because we have bad lines. 1843 01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:30,617 This is an unnecessary solution to a problem that doesn't exist. 1844 01:32:30,751 --> 01:32:32,991 The people who draw the lines now are accountable to each 1845 01:32:33,053 --> 01:32:35,188 and every one of us at the ballot box, 1846 01:32:35,321 --> 01:32:36,557 the 13‐member star chamber 1847 01:32:36,690 --> 01:32:38,258 is going to be accountable to nobody. 1848 01:32:38,391 --> 01:32:40,326 Proposal 2, deal breaker number one. 1849 01:32:40,460 --> 01:32:43,196 Proposal 2 gives 13 new redistricting commissioners 1850 01:32:43,329 --> 01:32:45,566 absolute authority in your constitution. 1851 01:32:45,699 --> 01:32:48,769 Proposal 2 lets 13 new redistricting commissioners 1852 01:32:48,902 --> 01:32:51,404 vote themselves unlimited pay and unlimited perks. 1853 01:32:51,538 --> 01:32:53,907 Convicted felons can be picked as commissioners. 1854 01:32:54,040 --> 01:32:55,909 It's 3,200 words. 1855 01:32:56,076 --> 01:32:58,745 Vote no on 2 or the joke's on you. 1856 01:33:00,146 --> 01:33:02,148 Something that is super bothering me right now 1857 01:33:02,348 --> 01:33:04,918 is that robo‐call they did from "Katie" urging them 1858 01:33:05,051 --> 01:33:07,120 to vote no on Prop 2 and 3. 1859 01:33:07,253 --> 01:33:10,123 Like there is no way you just chose Katie out of a hat. 1860 01:33:10,490 --> 01:33:11,491 Jerks. 1861 01:33:11,725 --> 01:33:13,093 I'm tired. 1862 01:33:50,196 --> 01:33:52,298 You are looking live at democracy in action. 1863 01:33:52,498 --> 01:33:55,368 We're seeing huge numbers of voters showing up today 1864 01:33:55,501 --> 01:33:56,803 at the polls. 1865 01:33:59,239 --> 01:34:01,842 Are there door hangers for today, we got asked. 1866 01:34:01,975 --> 01:34:03,143 They're here. 1867 01:34:03,409 --> 01:34:04,521 Aren't those the same door hangers 1868 01:34:04,545 --> 01:34:05,812 we have been using? 1869 01:34:05,946 --> 01:34:07,113 No, it says, "vote today". 1870 01:34:07,247 --> 01:34:08,982 Oh, it does? Cute. 1871 01:34:10,450 --> 01:34:11,852 So much more 1872 01:34:11,985 --> 01:34:13,462 than just candidates on the ballot today, 1873 01:34:13,486 --> 01:34:14,966 we're taking a look at three proposals 1874 01:34:15,088 --> 01:34:16,389 that could drastically change 1875 01:34:16,523 --> 01:34:18,058 what it means to be a Michigan voter. 1876 01:34:18,458 --> 01:34:19,993 Proposal 2 would create 1877 01:34:20,126 --> 01:34:21,662 an independent commission 1878 01:34:21,795 --> 01:34:23,997 to draw new legislative and congressional districts 1879 01:34:24,130 --> 01:34:25,431 after each census. 1880 01:34:25,566 --> 01:34:27,568 Got some info on Prop 2 ending gerrymandering 1881 01:34:27,701 --> 01:34:28,735 in our state. 1882 01:34:28,902 --> 01:34:30,303 Thank you for voting. 1883 01:34:31,271 --> 01:34:32,272 Yeah. 1884 01:34:34,307 --> 01:34:36,209 It's coming down to the wire. 1885 01:34:36,342 --> 01:34:38,278 About an hour left to go before the polls close 1886 01:34:38,444 --> 01:34:40,981 across the state of Michigan in these crucial 1887 01:34:41,114 --> 01:34:42,448 midterm elections. 1888 01:34:42,583 --> 01:34:43,650 Thank you. 1889 01:34:44,017 --> 01:34:45,586 ‐ 8:01. ‐ 8:01. 1890 01:34:45,719 --> 01:34:46,920 Okay. 1891 01:34:47,087 --> 01:34:49,055 That's it, there's nothing else we can do. 1892 01:34:49,189 --> 01:34:51,091 We've done everything we can do. 1893 01:34:57,330 --> 01:35:00,133 It's almost 10:00 p. m. and you guys are, 1894 01:35:00,266 --> 01:35:04,671 it's only 11‐ish percent reporting but you're up by... 1895 01:35:04,838 --> 01:35:06,072 Nine, only nine. 1896 01:35:06,206 --> 01:35:07,774 That doesn't make me feel good. 1897 01:35:08,074 --> 01:35:10,110 I think, I wish we were winning by more. 1898 01:35:11,545 --> 01:35:13,355 Just so I feel a little better, but you know what? 1899 01:35:13,379 --> 01:35:14,114 That's okay. 1900 01:35:14,247 --> 01:35:15,616 I wish they would just be done. 1901 01:35:15,749 --> 01:35:16,959 Are you also preparing the we lost? 1902 01:35:16,983 --> 01:35:18,351 Is there a good gift for that too? 1903 01:35:18,484 --> 01:35:20,020 We lost, oh... 1904 01:35:20,153 --> 01:35:21,522 Just taking a look now at some 1905 01:35:21,655 --> 01:35:23,399 of the election results still coming in right now. 1906 01:35:23,423 --> 01:35:24,791 Proposal 2 would change the way 1907 01:35:24,925 --> 01:35:26,292 Michigan draws its state house, 1908 01:35:26,426 --> 01:35:28,294 state senate, and congressional districts. 1909 01:35:28,629 --> 01:35:31,231 And right now the yes votes are well ahead. 1910 01:35:31,431 --> 01:35:33,033 Do they call the proposals 1911 01:35:33,199 --> 01:35:34,701 later than they call candidates? 1912 01:35:34,835 --> 01:35:36,269 Who calls it? 1913 01:35:36,537 --> 01:35:37,738 Who are we waiting for? 1914 01:35:38,438 --> 01:35:40,306 Now that some of the results are coming in, 1915 01:35:40,440 --> 01:35:42,509 I'm like, "Yeah, okay. 1916 01:35:42,943 --> 01:35:45,979 Okay, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe." 1917 01:35:48,481 --> 01:35:49,516 Who said it? 1918 01:35:50,551 --> 01:35:51,985 A bunch of news articles. 1919 01:35:52,118 --> 01:35:54,621 No, Elizabeth, you believed in us 1920 01:35:54,755 --> 01:35:56,489 before like almost anybody did. 1921 01:36:09,836 --> 01:36:12,005 I just got told we called it. 1922 01:36:12,405 --> 01:36:15,375 Way to fucking change the Michigan constitution. 1923 01:36:15,542 --> 01:36:16,943 How am I not crying? 1924 01:36:17,077 --> 01:36:19,880 How are you guys, I cry all the time, you never cry. 1925 01:36:20,514 --> 01:36:22,215 Come here. Come here. 1926 01:36:23,349 --> 01:36:26,052 Aww. Okay, okay, we should say something. 1927 01:36:26,186 --> 01:36:28,589 I feel like we should say something. 1928 01:36:28,722 --> 01:36:30,524 Hey, guys, we won! 1929 01:36:36,296 --> 01:36:39,700 We f‐‐‐ing amended the state constitution. 1930 01:36:40,300 --> 01:36:43,469 Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. 1931 01:36:43,604 --> 01:36:45,606 I can't breathe, Kelly. 1932 01:36:53,146 --> 01:36:56,249 All political power is inherent in the people! 1933 01:37:03,156 --> 01:37:06,292 There were three other states across our country 1934 01:37:06,426 --> 01:37:08,128 who were trying to end gerrymandering too. 1935 01:37:08,261 --> 01:37:10,363 We had Utah, Missouri, and Colorado. 1936 01:37:10,864 --> 01:37:12,298 Missouri has been called, 1937 01:37:12,432 --> 01:37:14,935 they have also officially ended gerrymandering, 1938 01:37:15,068 --> 01:37:16,803 heck yes! 1939 01:37:19,740 --> 01:37:23,877 Utah is almost called, 57 percent reporting 1940 01:37:24,010 --> 01:37:25,245 for changing lines. 1941 01:37:25,979 --> 01:37:30,250 In Colorado it was at 71.4 percent, 71! 1942 01:37:34,655 --> 01:37:36,923 This is not a moment, but a movement. 1943 01:37:37,290 --> 01:37:39,626 The people of our country are sick of this 1944 01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:42,128 and if we don't come and say that enough is enough, 1945 01:37:42,262 --> 01:37:43,664 then nothing is going to change. 1946 01:37:43,797 --> 01:37:46,266 But we have proven that you can keep your integrity, 1947 01:37:46,533 --> 01:37:48,602 you can make it so that you can invite anyone 1948 01:37:48,735 --> 01:37:51,037 to the table, you can operate a campaign 1949 01:37:51,171 --> 01:37:52,338 in a transparent way 1950 01:37:52,573 --> 01:37:54,741 where we actually trust the people of our state 1951 01:37:54,875 --> 01:37:55,976 to make decisions, 1952 01:37:56,142 --> 01:37:57,578 and it ends up in a beautiful result 1953 01:37:57,711 --> 01:37:59,846 that unites thousands of people and is about to unite 1954 01:37:59,980 --> 01:38:01,047 millions of people. 1955 01:38:01,181 --> 01:38:02,749 It mattered that you showed up, 1956 01:38:02,883 --> 01:38:04,243 it mattered that you knocked doors, 1957 01:38:04,317 --> 01:38:05,762 it mattered that you gathered signatures, 1958 01:38:05,786 --> 01:38:08,088 and stood in the rain, in the cold, in the heat. 1959 01:38:08,354 --> 01:38:12,025 All of that mattered for generations of people. 1960 01:38:12,158 --> 01:38:16,663 Your sacrifices have changed our constitution. 1961 01:38:17,063 --> 01:38:18,765 The Michigan state constitution opens with, 1962 01:38:18,899 --> 01:38:21,968 "All political power is inherent in the people." 1963 01:38:22,402 --> 01:38:25,906 We are those people, this is our power, 1964 01:38:26,206 --> 01:38:27,307 let's go have 1965 01:38:27,608 --> 01:38:29,251 an Independent Citizens Redistricting Commission 1966 01:38:29,275 --> 01:38:31,377 that restores faith in democracy. 1967 01:38:31,778 --> 01:38:33,013 Cheers. 1968 01:38:36,482 --> 01:38:38,018 And I think we're ready to party. 1969 01:39:21,427 --> 01:39:22,929 Respect our vote, 1970 01:39:23,063 --> 01:39:24,364 respect our vote, 1971 01:39:24,565 --> 01:39:28,034 respect our vote, respect our vote. 1972 01:39:28,168 --> 01:39:30,136 All votes matters. 1973 01:39:30,270 --> 01:39:31,972 Voting rights are human rights, 1974 01:39:32,105 --> 01:39:34,107 voting rights are human rights. 1975 01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:36,376 Show me what democracy looks like. 1976 01:39:36,510 --> 01:39:38,979 This is what democracy looks like. 1977 01:39:39,112 --> 01:39:41,347 Show me what democracy looks like. 1978 01:39:41,515 --> 01:39:43,950 This is what democracy looks like. 1979 01:39:44,084 --> 01:39:47,253 I believe that we will win, I believe that we will win. 1980 01:39:47,387 --> 01:39:50,090 I believe that we will win, I believe that we will win. 1981 01:39:50,223 --> 01:39:53,493 I believe that we will win, I believe that we will win. 1982 01:39:53,627 --> 01:39:57,297 I believe that we will win, I believe that we will win. 159755

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