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It didn't seem like we were
making an impact at the time.
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We were just a bunch of kids living the
dream and traveling around the world.
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It was our bond as a family that enabled
us to become as successful as we did.
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We were all feeding
off each other, pushing
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each other beyond just
going out and having fun.
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The competitive thing was
a real cut-throat business.
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We were competing
at every level.
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The surf industry pit
us against each other.
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All's fair in love and
war, and we are at war.
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I had to be a bit of
an asshole to win.
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He was being a dick.
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Fuck him.
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If I can just do this thing better
than everybody, then I win.
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Friendships, relationships, happiness...
is winning worth giving up those things?
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I was born in Cocoa
Beach, Florida in 1972.
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My dad owned a bait and tackle shop,
so we just grew up fishing and surfing.
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I like to build forts and go camp on
the islands, clamming and shrimping.
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I was pretty tough as a kid.
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I remember we were riding our bikes one
time down the street, and for some reason
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I turned really sharp and I just ate
it and just hit the ground super hard.
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And the people stopped their
car and they're like, are you okay?
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And my brother goes, he's
the toughest kid on the boat.
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He's on the block or
something like that, you
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know, and I was like,
yeah, I'm fine, you know.
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When I was like eight years
old, a lot changed for me.
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That was when my mom
was trying to kick my dad out.
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My mom just couldn't handle
the drinking and stuff, and
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they would have these crazy
screaming fights in the house.
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I feel like I changed
as a person.
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I went from fighting and being aggressive
as my way to kind of get out my feelings,
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to real like overly
sensitive to everything.
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It was really
insecure, you know.
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I grew up in Oxnard Shores.
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It was a rough Hispanic town.
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My dad was a talented
musician, and he made it to
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a point where he was a
big fish in a small pond.
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He was a big fish
in a small pond.
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But then he got sucked
into the drug scene.
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He and my stepmom,
they would have knockout,
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dragout fights, wake
up with black eyes.
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I was just like, God, Dad,
you know, what are you doing?
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I didn't want to be
like my dad, a talented
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guy that just couldn't
get out of his hometown.
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And I didn't want to
be as strict as my mom.
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I needed to get out from
under my parents' thumb.
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I was born and raised in Hawaii.
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I'm from Kona.
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Growing up, my
parents ran a restaurant.
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My dad was a pretty
gnarly alcoholic.
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He was drunk every day.
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One day, they got in a
car wreck and lost his arm.
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My parents split up when
I was like 12 years old.
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My dad wasn't in
the picture anymore.
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Times got really hard.
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I felt a little bit lost.
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I didn't know what to do.
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I didn't know what to do.
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But following my dad's footsteps
was never an option for me.
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I was born in Los
Angeles, California.
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My father was a
pro football player.
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He was very macho.
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Big intimidating
guy with a beard.
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It was a really tough
love with my father.
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He would always grab
us and throw us around.
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All his emotions came
with physical stuff.
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He beat up my
brother really bad.
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It was a big deal.
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Our lives are still hard.
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I was born in Kailua,
east side of Oahu.
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My mother would probably get arrested
for child abuse for the shit that she did.
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I would get dropped
off at like 5 a.m.
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at Waikiki with $2 in
my pocket if I was lucky.
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And then I would get picked
up at 6 or 7 o 'clock at night.
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What are you going to
eat with $2 during the day?
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Probably not a
fucking whole lot.
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There was this pizza place and
there would be a display of a pizza.
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Hey, come eat here.
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We would steal that pizza.
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I was a ghetto ass kid, man.
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As ghetto as it gets.
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I had nothing else to do than a
fight and steal some food and surf.
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What is surfing?
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You know, things are
chaotic, go out in the ocean.
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Which is funny because
the ocean is chaotic.
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But I felt calm out there.
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I was like, all these problems
were happening in my life.
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And the only time I felt really
good was when I was surfing.
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That's when I had a
real sense of purpose.
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This is who I am.
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I was that surfer kid.
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I wasn't that bummed
out kid at home.
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I grew up in Chicago in a
very regimented schedule.
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So that independence and freedom
to be able to shed your parents.
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And it just picked me up.
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To be you in the ocean.
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That's what I just
completely fell in love with.
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For me, surfing
was total freedom.
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Hello, dear.
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Hello.
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Getting ready to go surfing?
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Yeah.
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Good, good, good.
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I just remember standing
up for the first time.
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All of these elements
just like rushing by you.
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You're away from
everything all of a sudden.
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You're above it.
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And you're gliding.
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And it was just, I don't know.
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I was sold.
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Growing up on the
North Shore, one of my
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first memories of surfing
was late in the day.
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So the sun was
shining down the waves.
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And I remember standing
up and having that
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perfect image of the sun
glistening on the barrel.
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I remember feeling entranced.
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Your first barrel, you're
going to remember it forever.
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Surfing was my savior.
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For me.
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All my challenges at home.
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And parents splitting up.
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I channeled all
that to my surfing.
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I could go do something on my own
that no one else could tell me how to do.
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And I completely understood it.
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Every day was something new.
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Learning something
new on the wave.
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And it made me hungry.
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Surfing comes first and that's my life
and, you know, they've got to respect that.
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Vertical one more time.
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This kid is just working.
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Unbelievable
coordination on a surfboard.
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That is as good as you'd guess.
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It doesn't get any better.
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That's traffic surfing.
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Kelly Slater.
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Kelly Slater, one of the
bright superstars of the future.
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There's no question about it.
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The first time I met
Kelly was at the U.S.
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Championships.
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Kelly was 13 and I was 12.
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Square tail.
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No wing.
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Works killer.
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Kelly's already kind
of like a superhero.
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Like Michael
Jordan at that point.
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You know, everyone's
just like, well, Kelly.
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And my dad's like, hey,
let's go take a photo with him.
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I'm like, no, no, no.
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He's like, hey, Kelly.
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And I'm like, ugh.
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That awkward moment when
your parent embarrasses you.
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After that, Rob and I became good friends
and we would see each other at contests.
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And the winner, Kelly Slater.
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But back then, surfing
was not a career path.
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It was just something
you enjoy doing.
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When I was a kid, my local
break was a lot of hard characters.
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Drinking beers and
smoking weed on the beach.
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I started competing in
the little local contests.
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There would be like
three kids in my division.
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And talking to those
guys, they were like,
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oh yeah, we're all
going to be pro surfers.
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And I was like, what?
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What are you talking about?
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They're like, yeah,
that's what we're doing.
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And I didn't know that
was an option, you know.
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I remember hanging out with a
friend looking at a surfer magazine.
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And I said, I'm
going to do that.
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That's going to be my job.
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And he was like, yeah, right.
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And I just, no.
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I'm going to be a
pro surfer someday.
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And the blueprint for
me was Tom Curran.
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I started surfing in 1985.
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And Tom Curran won
the world title that year.
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He was the first American
to win the world title
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since the inception
of professional surfing.
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It had been dominated
by Australians.
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If you ask anyone in our generation,
Tom Curran was our inspiration.
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He showed us what was possible.
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As a kid, I did pretty
well in a few contests.
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And by the time I was 18, I was
offered my first sponsorship deal.
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Another young surfer rapidly rising through
the ranks is California's Taylor Knox.
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$1,000 for the $1,000 picture.
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Oh, man.
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I don't know how this sells.
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After finishing fourth
at the world amateur
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titles, I got the contract
I was looking for.
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I think I ended up
with $1,200 a month.
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And that was a big deal.
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Wow, look at that.
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Slightest breath.
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After a tremendous
amateur career, Blazer has
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dedicated himself to the
world of professional surfing.
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He signed the biggest
sponsorship deal ever.
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It was a big jump for me because I
get nervous in front of a big crowd.
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I was getting $75,000
a year at 18 years old.
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Coming from not having anything
when I was a kid to getting paid anything,
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to go surfing and be able to, you know,
find my own lunch was a bonus, you know.
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We'll rob you first, but we
must give you my minimum.
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Yeah, definitely.
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It gives me a lot
more confidence.
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You know, moving
up in the ratings.
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I was kind of scared about the
whole concept of being a pro surfer.
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I was just a little kid
going surfing every day.
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I was just out there for
the pure enjoyment of it.
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Like, there was no stress.
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And now, you put a piece of paper in
front of someone with money attached to it,
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and expectations and obligations,
and everything changes.
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I saw it as a huge amount
of pressure, for sure.
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But I also thought, like, this is my
duty to go and earn these dollars.
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It was based on
that world title.
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They wanted you
to win that world title.
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I wanted to win so badly
because I never went to college.
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I had a zero backup plan.
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I was either going to make
it on the world tour, or I fail.
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And that was it.
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The end goal was always to go on
the world tour and be a world champ.
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That was the
pinnacle of the sport.
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Win a world championship.
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But at the same time,
you got to go to Hawaii.
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You got to do good in Hawaii.
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Back then, I was like, Hawaii?
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Scared the shit out of me.
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Proving that you were
going to be able to surf in
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Hawaii, that was a
really big part of the deal.
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You want to make a name for
yourself, you know, you go to Pipeline.
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You can make a career
off just surfing one wave.
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It's so powerful
and so beautiful.
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Palm trees swaying,
white sand beach.
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It's an amazing arena.
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But when it's in a bad
mood, it pulverizes you.
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It picks you up and just slams
you down, and that reef is so hard.
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It feels like you're
hitting a sharp sidewalk.
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Pipeline is definitely the
most dangerous spot on Earth.
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Yeah!
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Yeah!
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I've seen a lot
of guys die there.
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That's what makes it
such a proving ground.
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It's prestigious just to do good in the
trials, but the real reward is to be able
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to go and surf against
the world's best at Pipeline.
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If you're on the North Shore and Pipeline
was good and you weren't out there and you
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were some hot kid,
everybody knew about it.
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Everybody saw you as someone
who was avoiding Pipeline.
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Coming from Florida,
being a small wave guy, there
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was a lot of eyes on
whether I could surf in Hawaii.
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You can be the king of your
beach, wherever that is, but
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if you can't surf well in Hawaii,
it doesn't mean anything.
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I grew up surfing the Great
Lakes on a giant surfboard.
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The first couple times I
went to Hawaii, I hated it.
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You know, it's a
big fish, small pond.
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It's a small fish, big pond.
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And at 5'6", 130 pounds,
I ain't getting anything.
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The waves are bigger, they're
stronger, they move faster.
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It's so dangerous.
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It looks like everyone
should go to the hospital.
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Like, no way.
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I'm on the paddle out of
Pipeline, like, no chance.
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And then you had
some super heavy locals.
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When you're 135 pounds, skinny, cowly,
the intimidation factor is super high.
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I was pretty terrified of Derrick Ho
and Dane Kealoha, Johnny Boy Gomes,
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Sandy Garcia.
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These were the guys who could
put you in your place real fast.
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These were the guys who could
put you in your place real fast.
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Like, Brazil is to soccer,
Hawaii is to surfing.
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So it's territorial.
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You can't just come into Hawaii.
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That's the hardest place
on Earth to fucking infiltrate.
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Hawaii is like, respect?
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Door is wide open.
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No respect?
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Door is closed and
your ass is kicked.
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Oh, my God!
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Someone's so big!
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Some of these tourists that show up, they
just seem to leave their brains at home.
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If I see someone acting
like a privileged prick, if I feel
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like somebody needs a good
beating, I'm down to give it.
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Either you can go home while you still can
walk, or we can beat the shit out of you
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and send you home anyway.
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The land and the culture was stolen
from Hawaiians not that long ago.
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Queen Liliuokalani was
held up in her palace
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at gunpoint and
forced to hand it over.
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I'm literally from
the North Shore.
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This is where I was raised.
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Being a white person in
Hawaii, you're the minority.
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And you can feel it.
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It's tangible.
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It's like a reversal from
almost anywhere else.
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We were all over
there by ourselves.
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I don't remember anyone's
parents being over there.
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People were getting beat up.
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It's kind of like the Wild West.
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You're on your own, kid.
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I was from the Big Island
where the waves were small.
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And here I am on the
North Shore of Oahu.
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Scary locals and the waves
are gnarly and I'm terrified.
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And then in the winter
of ADP, Benji and his
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mom rented a house
right there at Pipeline.
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And that was like the
epicenter of the North Shore.
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So everyone was gravitating
towards Benji's house.
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My mom and dad split up.
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She went to Hawaii on vacation and came
back and said, Hey, boys, get in the car.
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We're moving to Hawaii.
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And it happened to be
the North Shore of Oahu.
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When we first got a hold of the Pipeline
house, we didn't even know that Pipeline
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and Waimea Bay and Sunset
Beach were down this way.
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I mean, this is
how naive we were.
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I was 12, living at Pipeline.
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Ross and Shane Dorian
started hanging out there.
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00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:50,180
And I'm like, yeah, this is rad.
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They're hanging out at my house.
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And then it became where
all the boys started hanging.
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No way, you guys.
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It's so rad.
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When Benji had his
house there at Pipeline,
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he's like, ah, okay, you
need a place to stay?
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You can stay at my house.
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00:18:04,360 --> 00:18:08,020
I went from staying in some
rat-infested crack den to Benji's house.
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00:18:08,780 --> 00:18:12,020
Just hanging out there, watch
Pipeline, jump on the trampoline.
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Bodies just
everywhere, sleeping.
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It was like a summer party.
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00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,760
We all knew each other from
surfing different amateur events.
321
00:18:22,500 --> 00:18:26,700
But it wasn't until we all stayed at
Benji's house that we became a posse.
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00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:29,080
What do you think about Rob?
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00:18:29,081 --> 00:18:30,760
You know, he's got
a real attitude, bro.
324
00:18:32,340 --> 00:18:34,920
It wasn't just this little core
group from Hawaii anymore.
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00:18:35,120 --> 00:18:37,980
All of a sudden, our group went
from this big to this big to this big.
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00:18:38,120 --> 00:18:39,300
It just snowballed.
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00:18:43,360 --> 00:18:45,980
There were 80 surfboards
left at the house every day.
328
00:18:46,100 --> 00:18:48,045
All the surfers were
showing up, and there
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00:18:48,046 --> 00:18:50,161
were 15 people at a
time sleeping on the floor.
330
00:18:51,900 --> 00:18:54,220
Benji's mom was so
welcoming to everyone.
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She never asked for a dime.
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00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,056
Everyone eating all her food,
leaving all their dirty shit everywhere.
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Making the house a wreck.
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Loud, staying up late.
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00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,800
It was just like a free-for-all
fun zone all day long.
336
00:19:05,260 --> 00:19:07,620
The sand was this
thick in my living room.
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00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,428
And after a while, my
mom just let go of the
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00:19:10,508 --> 00:19:13,500
whole control thing
and just said, I love it.
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00:19:13,540 --> 00:19:14,540
I love it.
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00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,300
I'd always felt the more the merrier
because I had nobody growing up.
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00:19:18,380 --> 00:19:20,000
My dad had died and
our house was empty.
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00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,700
So to me, we were just a
family and these were my boys.
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00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,840
There were kids that were leaving
their parents on the east coast of America,
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00:19:27,841 --> 00:19:30,420
spending their holiday
season with my family.
345
00:19:31,645 --> 00:19:33,236
I mean, what were
their parents thinking?
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00:19:33,260 --> 00:19:35,160
Like, our kids aren't
home for Christmas.
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00:19:35,580 --> 00:19:37,080
Every year for like a decade.
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00:19:37,380 --> 00:19:39,996
Right about Christmas time, everybody
goes home to see their parents.
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00:19:40,020 --> 00:19:41,180
And there's more ways for me.
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A lot of us come from
broken homes, but over at
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Benji's house, you felt like
you were with your family.
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00:19:48,460 --> 00:19:51,700
Most of us went through some
gnarly, hard times when we were young.
353
00:19:51,900 --> 00:19:55,408
So to go somewhere where
there was a really positive,
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00:19:55,409 --> 00:19:58,860
loving, accepting home, we
just felt like it was safe there.
355
00:20:04,980 --> 00:20:09,400
One day, I met Rob surfing
where we surf, at our little spot.
356
00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,020
And he brought me
into Benji's house.
357
00:20:17,580 --> 00:20:20,980
Without that group, I would have,
carrying fucking tea, been in jail.
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00:20:22,500 --> 00:20:24,960
That single-handedly
changed my whole life.
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00:20:29,580 --> 00:20:34,051
When Benji had his house
at Pipeline, it would be ten of
360
00:20:34,052 --> 00:20:37,440
us on the deck watching the
waves, boards in the racks.
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00:20:37,900 --> 00:20:40,300
We knew we needed
to get out there and surf.
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00:20:40,780 --> 00:20:42,320
We just needed
someone to push us.
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00:20:45,220 --> 00:20:48,280
We'd all stand out on the deck,
everyone squashing the waves, yourself,
364
00:20:48,700 --> 00:20:50,520
and here comes Todd.
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00:20:53,620 --> 00:20:55,609
Todd Chester had walked
through the yard, you know,
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00:20:55,610 --> 00:20:57,140
and he wouldn't even
ask if he could come over.
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00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:58,460
He was just such a gnarly dude.
368
00:20:58,461 --> 00:20:58,680
Here.
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00:20:59,060 --> 00:21:00,200
Did you do anything yet?
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00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:01,040
Yeah.
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00:21:01,100 --> 00:21:02,100
But not with me.
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00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:03,440
Yeah, he's not anything good.
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00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:04,240
Look at that floor.
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00:21:04,580 --> 00:21:05,580
It's getting good.
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00:21:05,980 --> 00:21:07,608
Todd Chester and
Brock Little were already
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00:21:07,609 --> 00:21:10,861
completely established
pro surfers at the time.
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00:21:11,090 --> 00:21:12,680
We looked up to
those guys so much.
378
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:14,920
We wanted to be just like them.
379
00:21:16,380 --> 00:21:20,320
Brock was the first guy to pioneer
surfing Himalayas and Waimea.
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00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:21,640
He was so fearless.
381
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:28,181
Behind him, slowly but surely, Todd
Chester started surfing big waves as well.
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00:21:34,110 --> 00:21:37,150
Brock was already starting
to take off in his career.
383
00:21:38,270 --> 00:21:41,810
And when he would travel around
the world, Todd hung out with us.
384
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:44,690
Todd Chester was
a couple years older.
385
00:21:44,970 --> 00:21:47,330
He was the one
that pushed all of us.
386
00:21:47,810 --> 00:21:48,830
And he was brutal.
387
00:21:52,150 --> 00:21:56,150
You come in after thinking, like,
oh, man, I just got such a good wave.
388
00:21:56,510 --> 00:21:57,690
I wonder if Todd saw it.
389
00:22:00,110 --> 00:22:01,786
Todd didn't talk about
any of the waves I got.
390
00:22:01,810 --> 00:22:03,590
He was like, why'd
you paddle in?
391
00:22:04,570 --> 00:22:05,730
You know, like, okay.
392
00:22:05,850 --> 00:22:08,030
Well, um, because it's easier?
393
00:22:08,170 --> 00:22:09,170
No.
394
00:22:09,340 --> 00:22:10,090
Don't wuss out.
395
00:22:10,285 --> 00:22:11,285
Get through it.
396
00:22:11,890 --> 00:22:15,130
I remember watching Chester
letting waves land on him.
397
00:22:15,270 --> 00:22:16,270
He's laughing.
398
00:22:16,930 --> 00:22:20,630
Almost to say, like,
what's the big deal, Brom?
399
00:22:20,810 --> 00:22:23,490
And you just feel
like looking for an out.
400
00:22:23,770 --> 00:22:25,230
Oh, my ankle's kind of sore.
401
00:22:26,290 --> 00:22:27,090
Shut up.
402
00:22:27,150 --> 00:22:27,790
Grab your board.
403
00:22:27,850 --> 00:22:28,850
Let's go.
404
00:22:29,270 --> 00:22:31,030
Todd was like a sensei to us.
405
00:22:31,150 --> 00:22:33,650
He was always one step
ahead of what we were doing.
406
00:22:34,470 --> 00:22:36,099
He could see that
you could do it, but you
407
00:22:36,100 --> 00:22:37,590
couldn't see yourself
that you could do it.
408
00:22:37,690 --> 00:22:40,870
And he would say just some little
things that would get under your skin,
409
00:22:41,070 --> 00:22:43,170
like, uh, you probably
won't make it anyway.
410
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:44,830
And you'd be like, fuck that.
411
00:22:45,010 --> 00:22:46,010
I'll make it.
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00:22:46,100 --> 00:22:48,530
Now, looking back on it,
he knew what he was doing.
413
00:22:50,010 --> 00:22:52,078
It's like he knew
how far to push your
414
00:22:52,090 --> 00:22:54,490
limits, dangerously
close to knife or death.
415
00:22:55,290 --> 00:22:59,750
Todd Chester would surf any size, big wave,
and he had a huge influence on all of us.
416
00:23:00,050 --> 00:23:02,314
Eventually, we were all
feeding off each other, pushing
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00:23:02,315 --> 00:23:04,591
each other in a friendly way,
trying to outdo each other.
418
00:23:05,190 --> 00:23:06,790
We always used to
say, oh, you won't go.
419
00:23:06,990 --> 00:23:10,270
Just that challenge, like, turn around
on a big wave or a late drop and just go.
420
00:23:11,690 --> 00:23:15,030
If you heard you won't go
in our crew, you're gone.
421
00:23:15,190 --> 00:23:17,310
And if you don't go, ooh, ah!
422
00:23:17,650 --> 00:23:19,770
That's like a month
of getting heckled.
423
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,970
And being heckled,
ugh, is the worst.
424
00:23:22,150 --> 00:23:23,350
I'd rather split my head open.
425
00:23:23,510 --> 00:23:24,510
He just kicked his ass.
426
00:23:25,910 --> 00:23:26,570
You're not nervous?
427
00:23:26,571 --> 00:23:27,970
Don't chew your
fingernails, man.
428
00:23:28,770 --> 00:23:29,890
He's a little mad right now.
429
00:23:30,290 --> 00:23:33,790
It isn't like a, hey, man,
you'll get the next one.
430
00:23:34,370 --> 00:23:36,430
It was verbal beatings.
431
00:23:36,431 --> 00:23:38,370
Like, and you felt this big.
432
00:23:38,620 --> 00:23:41,870
And all you would do is think
about, okay, when's my next chance?
433
00:23:42,250 --> 00:23:43,770
Because I can't let
that happen again.
434
00:23:44,630 --> 00:23:47,023
I remember eating shit
on, like, a 10-foot wave
435
00:23:47,024 --> 00:23:49,510
of pipe and Chester
actually acknowledging it.
436
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,390
Like, going, dude,
that was sick.
437
00:23:51,730 --> 00:23:53,370
I'm so stoked you
went on that wave.
438
00:23:54,050 --> 00:23:58,070
Yeah, but I cartwheeled
down the face and ate crap.
439
00:23:58,290 --> 00:24:00,390
And I was like,
yeah, that was a killer.
440
00:24:00,710 --> 00:24:03,350
It changed the way
we perceived safety.
441
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,730
I mean, at 15, we were
surfing 25-foot waves.
442
00:24:05,910 --> 00:24:07,130
It was an unbelievable day.
443
00:24:07,250 --> 00:24:09,650
Flying up in heaven
and I fell from the clouds.
444
00:24:09,710 --> 00:24:12,270
It was pretty frickin'
sweet until I'm knocked out.
445
00:24:12,310 --> 00:24:15,190
We've been on the
sideline for damn long.
446
00:24:15,470 --> 00:24:16,910
Had a lot of fun.
447
00:24:17,010 --> 00:24:18,050
Had a lot of fun.
448
00:24:18,051 --> 00:24:18,250
Had a lot of fun.
449
00:24:18,390 --> 00:24:19,390
Had a lot of fun.
450
00:24:19,490 --> 00:24:20,490
Had a lot of fun.
451
00:24:20,810 --> 00:24:22,070
Had a lot of fun.
452
00:24:32,550 --> 00:24:36,590
I remember one day, as we were
paddling out, this enormous jet comes in.
453
00:24:38,170 --> 00:24:39,170
And
454
00:24:43,150 --> 00:24:45,614
I couldn't even take a
breath in, so I was, like,
455
00:24:45,674 --> 00:24:47,610
hyperventilating, like,
I'm gonna fucking die.
456
00:24:48,910 --> 00:24:52,250
And I remember looking over
at Benji and Benji laughing.
457
00:24:52,930 --> 00:24:55,470
Like, a fun ride at
an amusement park.
458
00:24:56,050 --> 00:24:59,510
Todd Chesser, he taught me that if a
wave breaks in front of you and you laugh,
459
00:24:59,690 --> 00:25:01,610
it calms your heart rate
so you can breathe more.
460
00:25:03,390 --> 00:25:06,390
You can't afford to surf
big waves if you're scared.
461
00:25:06,590 --> 00:25:09,110
That just means your adrenaline's
running, your heart's pumping.
462
00:25:09,810 --> 00:25:12,250
Odds are you're not gonna be
able to hold your breath as long.
463
00:25:12,490 --> 00:25:13,490
It's just simple science.
464
00:25:15,430 --> 00:25:16,910
A number of guys
got hurt really bad.
465
00:25:16,970 --> 00:25:18,290
Benji had a really
bad scary one.
466
00:25:18,350 --> 00:25:21,430
He caught a second reef wave one day
and just got hammered on the inside reef.
467
00:25:23,090 --> 00:25:24,650
I got held down for two waves.
468
00:25:24,690 --> 00:25:25,170
I was down.
469
00:25:25,550 --> 00:25:26,970
I was scrambling for my life.
470
00:25:27,350 --> 00:25:29,410
And I felt the give up.
471
00:25:29,550 --> 00:25:32,226
The give up is where you just kind
of go, like, I'm not gonna make it.
472
00:25:32,250 --> 00:25:33,250
You know, like...
473
00:25:33,430 --> 00:25:37,430
I remember when I hit the water, the lip
hit me and knocked all the wind out of me.
474
00:25:37,530 --> 00:25:38,750
And I was immediately going...
475
00:25:40,230 --> 00:25:41,510
I was underwater forever.
476
00:25:42,250 --> 00:25:45,750
And then the wave finally started
letting me up and I started swimming up.
477
00:25:45,950 --> 00:25:48,210
And I felt like this was it.
478
00:25:48,330 --> 00:25:49,910
Like, I need to
get to the surface.
479
00:25:50,010 --> 00:25:52,510
And the next wave
broke like this over me.
480
00:25:52,730 --> 00:25:54,290
And that was the
last thing I remember.
481
00:25:58,090 --> 00:26:00,670
I opened my eyes
and time had passed.
482
00:26:00,890 --> 00:26:02,390
I was crying hysterically.
483
00:26:02,570 --> 00:26:06,770
I was just sitting in the foam on my board
and I was coughing up all this gross shit.
484
00:26:07,245 --> 00:26:08,810
And I look and
Dorian is running.
485
00:26:09,050 --> 00:26:09,510
He's like, oh!
486
00:26:09,790 --> 00:26:10,830
And he comes and grabs me.
487
00:26:11,110 --> 00:26:11,850
Oh, my God.
488
00:26:11,990 --> 00:26:12,750
And we made it.
489
00:26:12,751 --> 00:26:13,210
We hugged.
490
00:26:13,230 --> 00:26:13,690
We're laughing.
491
00:26:13,870 --> 00:26:15,390
And my ears are messed up.
492
00:26:15,430 --> 00:26:16,190
My body hurts.
493
00:26:16,310 --> 00:26:17,430
And I'm like, I almost died.
494
00:26:17,890 --> 00:26:19,410
And Dorian's like,
I'm going back out.
495
00:26:20,380 --> 00:26:21,710
And I'm like, ding!
496
00:26:23,150 --> 00:26:24,150
Like...
497
00:26:24,690 --> 00:26:26,798
That's a fine line
between having the best
498
00:26:26,799 --> 00:26:29,050
wave of your life and
actually getting hurt.
499
00:26:29,350 --> 00:26:32,910
Jack Johnson blew his face up
one time on a Kelly You Won't Go.
500
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,960
I went to Jack's house and he
looked like the Elephant Man.
501
00:26:41,170 --> 00:26:42,170
His teeth were missing.
502
00:26:42,565 --> 00:26:45,356
And the only thing I could do was kind of
almost laugh because I was uncomfortable.
503
00:26:45,380 --> 00:26:46,820
Like, I don't even
know what to say.
504
00:26:46,915 --> 00:26:48,155
That wave you hurt yourself on?
505
00:26:48,370 --> 00:26:50,580
Why you told everyone that
I said you won't go on that?
506
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:51,480
Why did you do that?
507
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:52,556
You trying to make me feel bad?
508
00:26:52,580 --> 00:26:53,911
I didn't tell
anybody that, Kelly.
509
00:26:53,935 --> 00:26:55,160
His life was altered, you know?
510
00:26:55,161 --> 00:26:56,161
Like, he almost died.
511
00:26:57,540 --> 00:27:00,173
Almost dying in big waves,
as morbid as it sounds, is
512
00:27:00,174 --> 00:27:02,860
one of the things that's
exciting about big wave surfing.
513
00:27:03,120 --> 00:27:05,960
It's that kind of junky vibe you get
from it that keeps you coming back.
514
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:10,520
We've all had stitches.
515
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,400
We've all bounced
off the bottom.
516
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,420
You go out when it's ten feet.
517
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,080
And you're like, oh, wow.
518
00:27:21,260 --> 00:27:22,600
I took a couple on the head.
519
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:23,300
I hit the bottom.
520
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:24,400
And I'm OK.
521
00:27:25,020 --> 00:27:26,700
So then you go out
when it's ten feet.
522
00:27:26,701 --> 00:27:27,701
It's twelve feet.
523
00:27:29,740 --> 00:27:31,260
Next thing you
know, it's twenty feet.
524
00:27:34,900 --> 00:27:36,220
I couldn't get
out of the barrel.
525
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:37,560
Like, the whole web's gone.
526
00:27:38,060 --> 00:27:40,660
I think I'd be coming out
and, like, keep feeling it.
527
00:27:40,780 --> 00:27:41,220
I'd be like, what?
528
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:41,880
What?
529
00:27:42,140 --> 00:27:42,340
What?
530
00:27:42,500 --> 00:27:45,511
I remember being out on
this huge day at Pipeline
531
00:27:45,512 --> 00:27:48,380
and watching Shane Dorian
catch the twenty-foot left.
532
00:27:49,860 --> 00:27:51,520
And, like, oh, my God.
533
00:27:51,660 --> 00:27:52,660
Dude, that's my friend.
534
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,800
He's on a twenty-foot... Well, if
he got one, then I can get one.
535
00:28:01,710 --> 00:28:04,530
Before long, our crew
was ruling Pipeline.
536
00:28:04,630 --> 00:28:05,906
I mean, we were
catching all the sets.
537
00:28:05,930 --> 00:28:09,210
And it all came from putting
our time in and taking our place.
538
00:28:22,380 --> 00:28:24,420
One day, Surfer
Magazine calls me.
539
00:28:24,540 --> 00:28:26,056
Hey, we're going to do
a photo of your house.
540
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:26,640
And I was like, cool.
541
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:27,320
Why?
542
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,940
And the photo is legendary now.
543
00:28:30,060 --> 00:28:31,780
Like, when I look at
it, I'm like, oh, I get it.
544
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:32,976
I know what everyone was saying.
545
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,000
Benji's house.
546
00:28:35,460 --> 00:28:38,020
That day, our crew
was set in stone.
547
00:28:39,780 --> 00:28:40,780
We were a brotherhood.
548
00:28:41,940 --> 00:28:43,680
We had our own
language for a long time.
549
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,336
We'd all just speak in weird
tongues and just had so
550
00:28:46,376 --> 00:28:48,560
many code words that
were, like, four layers deep.
551
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:50,800
Get up, Boulay.
552
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:52,060
Contest is on, bro.
553
00:28:52,420 --> 00:28:53,500
Get up and get some cereal.
554
00:28:53,620 --> 00:28:54,860
This is your sock on drugs.
555
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:56,920
This is my sock on PK.
556
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,240
Kalani is, like, a younger brother who
doesn't know where he fits in sometimes.
557
00:29:01,700 --> 00:29:03,600
And so he would be,
like, a little shit to us.
558
00:29:03,900 --> 00:29:05,620
One time, we were
jumping on the trampoline.
559
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,600
And for absolutely no
reason whatsoever, on an
560
00:29:07,601 --> 00:29:10,261
up bounce, he just
pushed me into the bushes.
561
00:29:10,330 --> 00:29:11,916
I got up and I wanted to
kill him, but he was so small.
562
00:29:11,940 --> 00:29:12,780
I'm like, why did you do that?
563
00:29:12,820 --> 00:29:13,920
He's like, I don't know.
564
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:15,440
I just felt like doing that.
565
00:29:16,190 --> 00:29:18,080
We sponsored Kalani
when he was 10 years old.
566
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,396
He was really wiggly and
really fast, really squirmy.
567
00:29:20,420 --> 00:29:21,220
Wiggly, wiggly, wiggly.
568
00:29:21,340 --> 00:29:23,100
I'm like, this guy's so wiggly.
569
00:29:23,340 --> 00:29:24,280
He was this big.
570
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:25,520
He was like an action figure.
571
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,340
And he was doing things
that no 12-year-old's ever done.
572
00:29:28,980 --> 00:29:30,860
He's got the genes of Superman.
573
00:29:31,580 --> 00:29:33,900
He can eat cinnamon
rolls and get ripped.
574
00:29:35,020 --> 00:29:36,580
We all have different
diets completely.
575
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,220
Shane eats protein.
576
00:29:39,221 --> 00:29:41,360
He eats protein and raw
deer and stuff that he kills.
577
00:29:41,460 --> 00:29:42,460
Like that.
578
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:44,640
Machado?
579
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:45,560
Quesadillas.
580
00:29:45,820 --> 00:29:46,500
All day.
581
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:47,400
That's it.
582
00:29:47,580 --> 00:29:48,580
Ranch, quesadillas.
583
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,440
Kelly eats raw almonds and air.
584
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,800
Ross is on a paleo,
anorexic, heroin diet.
585
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,200
I eat carbs.
586
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:00,360
Ugh.
587
00:30:00,470 --> 00:30:01,470
Out of beer bottles.
588
00:30:02,380 --> 00:30:03,500
Benji's a class clown.
589
00:30:05,540 --> 00:30:08,160
Benji doesn't have one
competitive bone in his body.
590
00:30:09,220 --> 00:30:09,760
He's like the extreme.
591
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,600
There's Kelly and
there's Benji over here.
592
00:30:19,860 --> 00:30:21,240
Kelly is hell.
593
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,740
Because we all think he
sold his soul to the devil.
594
00:30:25,460 --> 00:30:27,340
He's always been
freakishly flexible.
595
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,300
He's got scoliosis in his spine.
596
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:31,860
That is so wrong.
597
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,280
Triple jointed.
598
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,760
The weird nugget
cast with the twig legs.
599
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,180
He's got a body that no
human's supposed to have.
600
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:40,560
Like, he's creepy, bud.
601
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:43,760
Kelly's like he's Syrian.
602
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,240
He's like meant
to be in the sun.
603
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,240
Shane is just Shane-o.
604
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:49,600
Shane-o!
605
00:30:49,820 --> 00:30:50,820
Shane-o.
606
00:30:50,980 --> 00:30:52,100
He's super into his hair.
607
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,520
I think that's a bad thing
for a guy who's bald now.
608
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,660
Like, I'm glad I was
never that into my hair.
609
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,260
Whenever a camera would come
out, Shane would kind of pucker his lips.
610
00:31:04,420 --> 00:31:05,400
We used to all give him shit.
611
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:06,540
Like, what are you doing
with your mouth, dude?
612
00:31:06,541 --> 00:31:10,420
Shane did the frickin' Zoolander
Blue Steel before that movie came out.
613
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:13,100
Ross.
614
00:31:13,500 --> 00:31:14,640
Really sarcastic.
615
00:31:15,250 --> 00:31:16,250
Dirty sense of humor.
616
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:16,920
I like it.
617
00:31:17,060 --> 00:31:18,380
Ross is super gross.
618
00:31:18,580 --> 00:31:20,600
Says horribly
inappropriate things.
619
00:31:20,925 --> 00:31:22,725
But looks like the nicest
guy you've ever met.
620
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,800
Pat's like a little
garden gnome.
621
00:31:26,155 --> 00:31:28,500
He is the happiest
guy in the world.
622
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,540
Like, when Pat has a bad day, he's
like, man, I'm so bummed right now.
623
00:31:32,290 --> 00:31:33,610
That's Pat being
mad right there.
624
00:31:33,700 --> 00:31:34,700
Pat falls.
625
00:31:35,020 --> 00:31:36,520
He had a fascination
in his balls.
626
00:31:36,521 --> 00:31:37,521
When we were young.
627
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:42,620
He'd look over at him at, like, lunch,
or in the lineup, or when we were
628
00:31:42,621 --> 00:31:44,636
waiting for a flight, and
he'd just have his balls out.
629
00:31:44,660 --> 00:31:45,820
He was proud of his balls.
630
00:31:46,180 --> 00:31:47,780
He was like a little
guy with big balls.
631
00:31:49,100 --> 00:31:50,100
I do.
632
00:31:52,100 --> 00:31:52,460
Yeah.
633
00:31:52,900 --> 00:31:53,540
I don't know.
634
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,820
I just would always, um,
they'd always just drop out.
635
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,000
Oh, is anyone there?
636
00:31:58,460 --> 00:31:59,460
Where the hell am I?
637
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,080
Taylor Knox was the
biggest jock of our crew.
638
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,600
The quarterback guy in high school
that pulled underwear off the guy's butt.
639
00:32:05,601 --> 00:32:06,601
And he was that guy.
640
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,660
Taylor Knox's
nickname was Bonehead.
641
00:32:10,900 --> 00:32:12,420
We're not supposed
to say that, though.
642
00:32:14,075 --> 00:32:15,355
Everyone else call him Bonehead?
643
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:16,600
Am I the only one?
644
00:32:20,540 --> 00:32:21,540
Robin Shado.
645
00:32:21,580 --> 00:32:22,580
Just call him the Fro.
646
00:32:23,180 --> 00:32:23,680
Fro-mo.
647
00:32:24,020 --> 00:32:25,320
He grows fast, dude.
648
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:26,436
You got a pretty fertile head.
649
00:32:26,460 --> 00:32:27,460
Yeah.
650
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:28,560
He said head.
651
00:32:28,561 --> 00:32:29,200
He said fertile.
652
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:30,260
I mean, let's be honest.
653
00:32:30,340 --> 00:32:31,340
The white Jimi Hendrix.
654
00:32:31,420 --> 00:32:35,120
They would see him walking down the street
in Japan, and it was like Elvis sight.
655
00:32:35,121 --> 00:32:36,140
You just see the afro.
656
00:32:36,220 --> 00:32:37,900
And you would see
that thing going through.
657
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,440
And then there
was Taylor Steele.
658
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,100
Every morning on my way to school,
I'd have to walk right by this old van.
659
00:32:49,340 --> 00:32:51,840
Like, it looked like,
you know, a rapist van.
660
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:52,440
100%.
661
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,860
One day, it's almost Christmas, and
my mom goes, hey, why don't you invite
662
00:32:56,861 --> 00:32:58,880
those two boys in that
van out there for dinner?
663
00:32:59,180 --> 00:32:59,900
And I go, what?
664
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:00,560
No way.
665
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:01,700
She's like, come on.
666
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,280
They don't have
their family here.
667
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,020
So I go out there.
668
00:33:04,021 --> 00:33:05,021
I'm like, hey, guys.
669
00:33:05,060 --> 00:33:06,060
You know?
670
00:33:06,740 --> 00:33:08,020
The whole door comes open.
671
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:08,480
I'm like, whoa.
672
00:33:08,620 --> 00:33:09,676
You know, like,
they lived in there.
673
00:33:09,700 --> 00:33:10,700
It was kind of gnarly.
674
00:33:10,785 --> 00:33:12,796
And I'm like, hey, you guys want
to have Christmas dinner here?
675
00:33:12,820 --> 00:33:13,820
They're like, yeah.
676
00:33:14,750 --> 00:33:16,150
Yeah, that story's
not true at all.
677
00:33:17,300 --> 00:33:20,260
Benji only let me stay at his house
because I was doing his chores for him.
678
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,080
Are you having fun doing dishes?
679
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,800
We're shooting Pipeline every day,
because that was the spot to shoot.
680
00:33:26,700 --> 00:33:29,300
Seeing yourself on video
was a huge novelty at that time.
681
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,320
There was no one on
the beach with cameras.
682
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,960
That was just, like, way
before videos were videos.
683
00:33:37,250 --> 00:33:38,000
We weren't in videos.
684
00:33:38,001 --> 00:33:40,241
It was only big-time corporate
companies that did videos.
685
00:33:40,780 --> 00:33:43,560
After each session, Taylor
only let us watch it one
686
00:33:43,561 --> 00:33:46,080
time through, and we
couldn't stop, rewind, or pause.
687
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:46,720
Okay?
688
00:33:46,780 --> 00:33:47,976
Because it would
destroy the taste.
689
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,220
There'd be, like, 25 of us all
screaming, oh, he got smashed.
690
00:33:51,300 --> 00:33:51,580
Gal smashed.
691
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:52,460
Shane no got it.
692
00:33:52,500 --> 00:33:53,220
Or he had the best one.
693
00:33:53,260 --> 00:33:54,260
He won the session today.
694
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:55,996
So that could be,
like, five hours.
695
00:33:56,020 --> 00:33:56,180
Yeah.
696
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,111
One day, I remember Taylor
telling us, hey, I'm going to
697
00:33:59,151 --> 00:34:01,196
make this movie, and you
guys are all going to do parts.
698
00:34:01,220 --> 00:34:02,820
So then we started
working on our parts.
699
00:34:04,490 --> 00:34:07,420
None of us really knew
what was about to happen.
700
00:34:11,530 --> 00:34:13,385
The guys were
surfing faster and more
701
00:34:13,386 --> 00:34:17,051
energetic, and I wanted
that kind of feel to it.
702
00:34:19,630 --> 00:34:23,098
Punk rock and surfing were
never merged before, and
703
00:34:23,099 --> 00:34:25,570
I didn't know it until I
put it in the first edit.
704
00:34:25,690 --> 00:34:28,750
And once I saw it in an edit,
I went, that is the perfect mix.
705
00:34:41,150 --> 00:34:44,130
But my parents,
they just didn't get it.
706
00:34:44,150 --> 00:34:46,410
The footage didn't
look that great.
707
00:34:46,685 --> 00:34:47,890
It was kind of grainy.
708
00:34:48,130 --> 00:34:48,930
I'm old school.
709
00:34:49,050 --> 00:34:53,270
All the surf movies I'd seen
had scenery and locations.
710
00:34:55,530 --> 00:34:59,374
At the time, surf movies
were built on going to an exotic
711
00:34:59,375 --> 00:35:01,971
destination that only a
handful of people could afford.
712
00:35:02,530 --> 00:35:06,010
But Taylor's movies were
built in everyday conditions.
713
00:35:07,130 --> 00:35:09,190
All of a sudden,
the kids could relate.
714
00:35:09,410 --> 00:35:11,404
They're like, oh, my
God, I just got to watch the
715
00:35:11,405 --> 00:35:13,811
best surfers surf waves
that I surf every day.
716
00:35:30,970 --> 00:35:33,070
We didn't relate to it,
but we said, OK, what
717
00:35:33,071 --> 00:35:35,571
we'll do is we'll pay
for the first thousand.
718
00:35:35,790 --> 00:35:37,270
But you have to go sell them.
719
00:35:37,450 --> 00:35:38,110
This is Taylor.
720
00:35:38,190 --> 00:35:39,450
That's an attack dog for you.
721
00:35:39,550 --> 00:35:40,070
What have you been doing?
722
00:35:40,330 --> 00:35:41,030
Making movies.
723
00:35:41,290 --> 00:35:42,486
Are you doing this for school?
724
00:35:42,510 --> 00:35:43,710
Yeah, just for the hell of it.
725
00:35:43,930 --> 00:35:45,450
This guy, he's from Bubblegum.
726
00:35:45,710 --> 00:35:46,630
Why don't you come in on Monday?
727
00:35:46,730 --> 00:35:47,130
All right.
728
00:35:47,190 --> 00:35:47,670
I'll take care of you.
729
00:35:47,730 --> 00:35:51,590
When Taylor came back and said
he sold all of them, we were in shock.
730
00:35:51,870 --> 00:35:53,050
We started liking it.
731
00:35:53,130 --> 00:35:55,130
In fact, my husband
would work out to the music.
732
00:35:56,150 --> 00:35:57,390
Wow, look at all these people.
733
00:35:57,410 --> 00:35:58,410
They're so cool.
734
00:35:58,870 --> 00:35:59,870
Holy shit.
735
00:36:04,260 --> 00:36:06,247
It was such a success that
Taylor immediately was like,
736
00:36:06,248 --> 00:36:08,221
hey, we're going to do
another one of these things.
737
00:36:11,340 --> 00:36:12,580
We're going to film for a year.
738
00:36:12,700 --> 00:36:14,100
Try and make the
best part you can.
739
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,340
Taylor's movies were
like the glue between us.
740
00:36:20,260 --> 00:36:22,260
They were the thing that
bonded us, kept us together,
741
00:36:22,284 --> 00:36:24,440
traveling together, staying
together, filming together.
742
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:49,160
We started touring the movies with
the bands that had songs in the films.
743
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:51,280
Art
744
00:36:56,010 --> 00:37:00,170
that is speeding really fast and it's
gonna explode out of your chest if you
745
00:37:00,171 --> 00:37:02,324
don't make something of
yourself, because you're
746
00:37:02,325 --> 00:37:04,551
driven to change how it
was when you were younger.
747
00:37:08,930 --> 00:37:12,630
We were all disenfranchised
youth trying to find our own way.
748
00:37:16,050 --> 00:37:19,150
There would be no Unwritten Law
without the Momentum and Focus videos.
749
00:37:19,370 --> 00:37:21,560
When we recognized we
had fans across the planet,
750
00:37:21,561 --> 00:37:24,910
we just kind of celebrated
every night since then.
751
00:37:33,630 --> 00:37:36,310
Taylor's movie was the biggest
thing that ever happened to our band.
752
00:37:36,750 --> 00:37:38,210
It changed our lives completely.
753
00:37:38,510 --> 00:37:40,612
It meant that we could put
out records and go on tour
754
00:37:40,613 --> 00:37:42,871
for the rest of our lives
and that's what we did.
755
00:37:49,030 --> 00:37:50,030
I want
756
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,360
to thank Taylor Steele for
making this all fucking possible.
757
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:20,880
Taylor Steele's movies made the Momentum
crew all pretty big and pretty popular.
758
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,007
But there wasn't a lot of
belief amongst the old guard
759
00:38:24,008 --> 00:38:26,440
that these guys were actually
gonna make it competitively.
760
00:38:26,980 --> 00:38:29,660
Back then there was two
things that were important to us.
761
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:34,180
Getting a good section in Taylor's
movies and making it on the World Tour.
762
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:40,780
The World Tour used to be the top 44
surfers in the world, competing through a
763
00:38:40,781 --> 00:38:43,620
series of 10 to 12
events all over the world.
764
00:38:43,780 --> 00:38:46,960
And only one guy is crowned world
champion at the end of the year.
765
00:38:47,240 --> 00:38:50,740
The Australians were dominant
like the Hawaiians in Hawaii.
766
00:38:50,741 --> 00:38:51,980
Anyway, that's their zone.
767
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,180
Well over 50% of guys
on tour were from Australia.
768
00:38:59,300 --> 00:39:01,740
Australia and America
had a great rivalry going.
769
00:39:02,020 --> 00:39:05,140
When we drew those guys in the
heats, it made us try that much harder.
770
00:39:05,380 --> 00:39:07,849
Whatever happens, I'm
gonna get a chance to beat him,
771
00:39:07,850 --> 00:39:10,181
and I'm just really looking
forward to that opportunity.
772
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,440
The Australian guys were so dominant at
the time, they had so many world champions.
773
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,240
There were this old guard on
the tour that we all looked up to.
774
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,240
I'd see these guys, I'd
see them in magazines.
775
00:39:19,010 --> 00:39:20,010
I was so starstruck.
776
00:39:20,740 --> 00:39:22,438
And we'd get in heats
with them, and they were
777
00:39:22,439 --> 00:39:24,661
so willing to do anything
it took to beat us.
778
00:39:24,820 --> 00:39:25,820
And I mean anything.
779
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,636
Paddle through the pack, and you growl
at everyone, and you give them stink eye,
780
00:39:29,660 --> 00:39:31,756
and you make sure that every good
wave comes through, you're on it.
781
00:39:31,780 --> 00:39:33,180
You know, you don't give
a shit about anyone else.
782
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,200
It's a selfish sport.
783
00:39:34,260 --> 00:39:35,360
Get out of my bloody way.
784
00:39:35,650 --> 00:39:36,650
You know, it's my day.
785
00:39:36,820 --> 00:39:39,113
It was like our
generation versus their
786
00:39:39,114 --> 00:39:41,320
generation, and those
guys saw us as a core threat.
787
00:39:41,930 --> 00:39:43,130
There was so much on the line.
788
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,340
This is my career, this is my lifestyle
that's setting myself up for the rest of
789
00:39:46,341 --> 00:39:49,061
my life, so I'm not gonna let some
little twerp take it away from me.
790
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:50,680
I had a heat with them.
791
00:39:50,740 --> 00:39:52,536
Martin Potter ended up
winning right at the end.
792
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,720
He ran up the beach and bashed his board
into the big fence there and ripped out
793
00:39:56,721 --> 00:39:58,776
all the, like, electrical cords
and was, like, throwing a fit.
794
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,740
I was so stoked that that
was the reaction to him losing.
795
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,780
My first year on tour, I
took down Martin Potter.
796
00:40:05,780 --> 00:40:08,132
I remember hearing him
yelling on the beach, and
797
00:40:08,133 --> 00:40:11,120
I was just sitting out
in the water, giggling.
798
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,732
My first win on tour
was against Gary
799
00:40:14,744 --> 00:40:16,900
Ogerton, and it was in
France, where he lived.
800
00:40:17,140 --> 00:40:18,376
It turned into this big protest.
801
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,420
His wife came and rushed the stand,
and he starts throwing his board and
802
00:40:21,421 --> 00:40:23,660
screaming at the judges,
and I thought it was great.
803
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:24,800
I loved it.
804
00:40:25,110 --> 00:40:26,190
I loved every second of it.
805
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,460
The first time I ever competed
against Slater before the contest, Kelly's
806
00:40:30,461 --> 00:40:33,440
standing right there, and he sort of
puts his hand out to say, good luck,
807
00:40:33,620 --> 00:40:37,180
and I slapped his hand away and
said, get the frick out of my face, mate.
808
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,880
But the whole surfing world
knew he was the messiah.
809
00:40:42,420 --> 00:40:44,004
You know, it was like,
it's not if he's gonna
810
00:40:44,005 --> 00:40:46,381
win a world title, it's how
many he's gonna win.
811
00:40:47,660 --> 00:40:50,520
Kelly was always, by far,
the best surfer in our group.
812
00:40:50,700 --> 00:40:52,140
No one disputed that.
813
00:40:52,900 --> 00:40:55,380
We were all rooting for
him to win the world title.
814
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,980
In 91, Kelly finished 44th.
815
00:40:59,980 --> 00:41:03,780
And then that next year,
he won the world title.
816
00:41:07,140 --> 00:41:09,320
We were just, like, tripping.
817
00:41:10,100 --> 00:41:11,720
It was a victory for all of us.
818
00:41:12,100 --> 00:41:13,740
We were working as a unit.
819
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,300
Our levels were all rising.
820
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,130
And in the successive
years after I won, 93, 4, 5,
821
00:41:19,131 --> 00:41:22,461
basically all my friends
started winning events.
822
00:41:23,540 --> 00:41:25,940
I just needed one wave, and
thank God I got it, you know?
823
00:41:26,140 --> 00:41:28,360
He seemed to have found a
new confidence from winning.
824
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:29,560
It feels unreal.
825
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,620
I think it's really important for American
surfing right now because our level of
826
00:41:34,621 --> 00:41:35,681
surfing has improved
drastically compared
827
00:41:35,682 --> 00:41:38,321
with the Australians
over the last few years.
828
00:41:52,260 --> 00:41:55,220
I would just like to thank all the
fans for coming out and supporting.
829
00:41:55,900 --> 00:41:57,400
It's just a great feeling.
830
00:41:57,660 --> 00:41:59,560
Do you have any messages
to your mom or father?
831
00:41:59,660 --> 00:42:00,140
Yeah.
832
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:00,800
Hello.
833
00:42:00,801 --> 00:42:01,280
Hello.
834
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,880
Well, thank you very much.
835
00:42:05,060 --> 00:42:05,580
Thanks.
836
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,000
It was surreal.
837
00:42:09,370 --> 00:42:10,960
It wasn't a dream anymore.
838
00:42:13,500 --> 00:42:16,820
All of a sudden, being a
pro surfer was a reality.
839
00:42:17,860 --> 00:42:19,440
We were just
taking over the tour.
840
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,460
Different lines being drawn.
841
00:42:23,580 --> 00:42:25,560
Different boards being rowed.
842
00:42:25,780 --> 00:42:27,040
More aerials.
843
00:42:27,240 --> 00:42:28,240
More tail slides.
844
00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:29,720
Faster.
845
00:42:30,660 --> 00:42:32,180
The judges had to adapt.
846
00:42:32,980 --> 00:42:34,160
Everyone had to adapt.
847
00:42:36,900 --> 00:42:39,644
It was a different way of
surfing from what was being done
848
00:42:39,645 --> 00:42:42,400
before where it was everything
was sort of on the wave.
849
00:42:42,870 --> 00:42:43,940
Okay, we've got that.
850
00:42:44,770 --> 00:42:46,770
But now we're going to
start going above the limit.
851
00:42:48,180 --> 00:42:50,893
Kelly and I were really
working on the narrower, thinner
852
00:42:50,894 --> 00:42:53,580
boards so that they could
more easily be thrown into the air.
853
00:42:54,780 --> 00:42:57,280
I remember one time
Kelly came down the line
854
00:42:57,292 --> 00:42:59,580
surfing this wave and
flew over my head.
855
00:42:59,581 --> 00:43:00,581
Doing a helicopter.
856
00:43:01,300 --> 00:43:02,300
Landed.
857
00:43:02,645 --> 00:43:04,160
And I went, oh my gosh.
858
00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:05,520
Things are really changing.
859
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:06,960
Hey, bud.
860
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:08,280
Let's party.
861
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,360
Back in the 70s and 80s, if you
surfed, you were a fucking loser.
862
00:43:11,460 --> 00:43:11,960
You were a hippie.
863
00:43:11,961 --> 00:43:12,520
You were a stoner.
864
00:43:12,860 --> 00:43:14,580
You didn't get respect
if you were a surfer.
865
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:19,400
At that time, there was a major
drug culture within surfing as a whole.
866
00:43:19,540 --> 00:43:21,540
But in our group,
nobody was doing drugs.
867
00:43:21,820 --> 00:43:22,940
It was a clean lifestyle.
868
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,740
I've been asked to talk about, you
know, how bad drugs are and everything.
869
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:26,900
To us, it was a real sport.
870
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,390
And that was the thing
that you could also package
871
00:43:30,391 --> 00:43:32,180
up and say, these guys
are actually athletes.
872
00:43:32,260 --> 00:43:33,760
They're taking it
to this next level.
873
00:43:37,990 --> 00:43:39,909
Right before Taylor's
movies came out,
874
00:43:39,921 --> 00:43:42,150
there was a pretty big
recession in surfing.
875
00:43:42,370 --> 00:43:46,150
And then the momentum generation put a
whole bunch of new energy into the sport.
876
00:43:46,330 --> 00:43:47,970
And surfing had a boom period.
877
00:43:48,590 --> 00:43:50,030
Surfing used to be a subculture.
878
00:43:50,230 --> 00:43:51,590
Then it became a counterculture.
879
00:43:51,790 --> 00:43:53,410
And then it became
an action sport.
880
00:43:53,650 --> 00:43:55,050
Jumped it, beat it, surfed it.
881
00:43:55,230 --> 00:43:56,230
You bring on the X Games.
882
00:43:56,330 --> 00:43:57,826
You throw a little
punk rock in there.
883
00:43:57,850 --> 00:43:59,790
All of a sudden,
it's on ESPN, ABC.
884
00:44:00,370 --> 00:44:02,330
MTV, youth movement.
885
00:44:02,490 --> 00:44:03,490
The industry changed.
886
00:44:03,830 --> 00:44:04,830
Magazines changed.
887
00:44:05,070 --> 00:44:06,070
Fashion changed.
888
00:44:06,570 --> 00:44:08,010
Sponsors were
popping up everywhere.
889
00:44:08,470 --> 00:44:10,710
The momentum
guys just leapfrogged.
890
00:44:10,870 --> 00:44:11,930
All the expectations.
891
00:44:12,230 --> 00:44:13,230
All the boundaries.
892
00:44:13,370 --> 00:44:15,430
The surf world just
went 180 degrees.
893
00:44:15,990 --> 00:44:18,310
All of a sudden,
these guys were it.
894
00:44:19,230 --> 00:44:22,770
Those magical years, when you
saw all of our names growing together.
895
00:44:23,270 --> 00:44:27,090
Kelly paved the way because he was
crossing over into mainstream media.
896
00:44:27,310 --> 00:44:30,024
As embarrassed as Kelly
is by doing Baywatch,
897
00:44:30,025 --> 00:44:32,210
he went into how
many millions of homes?
898
00:44:32,390 --> 00:44:33,870
That turned the
light on for surfing.
899
00:44:33,950 --> 00:44:37,850
Because you had some average
family in Kentucky turn on Baywatch.
900
00:44:37,930 --> 00:44:39,046
Like, who's this
Kelly Slater guy?
901
00:44:39,070 --> 00:44:39,670
Oh, he surfs.
902
00:44:39,671 --> 00:44:40,671
What's surfing?
903
00:44:41,130 --> 00:44:42,130
Fucking Baywatch.
904
00:44:42,390 --> 00:44:44,010
I mean, everybody
made fun of him.
905
00:44:44,170 --> 00:44:45,170
It was unbelievable.
906
00:44:45,270 --> 00:44:46,510
It was the corniest thing ever.
907
00:44:46,745 --> 00:44:48,430
I was really insecure
about it, you know?
908
00:44:48,530 --> 00:44:50,066
I was like, why did I
do this thing, man?
909
00:44:50,090 --> 00:44:52,210
The whole thing was just
so outrageous and ridiculous.
910
00:44:52,590 --> 00:44:54,814
We'd be surfing a place
where we wouldn't have leashes
911
00:44:54,838 --> 00:44:56,410
right in front of a cliff,
because that's what you do.
912
00:44:56,530 --> 00:44:58,384
And we would lose our
boards, and it would just
913
00:44:58,385 --> 00:45:00,551
perfectly go into this cave,
which is what happens.
914
00:45:01,050 --> 00:45:04,690
And there would be an octopus in
there, which is, of course, believable.
915
00:45:08,790 --> 00:45:10,290
I looked at the
guy who wrote that.
916
00:45:10,330 --> 00:45:13,140
I'm like, you... Like, you
did not... Did you write this?
917
00:45:13,780 --> 00:45:17,403
The bottom line is, my boy
was on the hottest TV show
918
00:45:17,404 --> 00:45:20,810
around, hooked up with
the hottest woman on Earth.
919
00:45:21,070 --> 00:45:23,517
Kelly Slater's become the
envy of guys the world over
920
00:45:23,518 --> 00:45:26,250
for snagging the ultimate
beach beauty, Pamela Anderson.
921
00:45:26,370 --> 00:45:29,530
Pamela Anderson supporting her
latest bow contestant, Kelly Slater.
922
00:45:29,550 --> 00:45:30,250
But is it serious?
923
00:45:30,330 --> 00:45:31,370
It's a bit too early to say.
924
00:45:31,371 --> 00:45:33,070
They're both extraordinarily
attractive people.
925
00:45:33,090 --> 00:45:36,830
Slater's agent says Anderson and
Slater are just very close friends.
926
00:45:42,290 --> 00:45:46,870
They would hand out Photo Slut of the Year
Award to the guy that just tried too hard.
927
00:45:47,170 --> 00:45:53,950
I watched the work of Mack in Bold and
Boyful Because Chester would make fun of
928
00:45:53,951 --> 00:45:55,746
you if you got too many
photos in the magazine.
929
00:45:55,770 --> 00:45:56,370
No photos, please.
930
00:45:56,510 --> 00:46:00,870
Todd was like the moral compass
defining what was cool and not cool.
931
00:46:01,250 --> 00:46:02,130
Listen here, Spielberg.
932
00:46:02,131 --> 00:46:03,131
Turn off the camera.
933
00:46:03,390 --> 00:46:07,990
Chester was the guy that kept everybody
honest, kept everybody real and humble.
934
00:46:08,270 --> 00:46:11,370
If anybody got on their high
horse, he would just level them.
935
00:46:11,910 --> 00:46:16,090
I want to ask you about your morals and if
you feel cheap about using women for sex.
936
00:46:16,610 --> 00:46:17,090
No.
937
00:46:17,490 --> 00:46:17,970
No?
938
00:46:18,180 --> 00:46:18,930
Not at all.
939
00:46:19,070 --> 00:46:19,470
No remorse?
940
00:46:19,730 --> 00:46:23,751
If you ever puffed your chest out, Todd
would be the first one to pop your bubble.
941
00:46:24,670 --> 00:46:26,170
He was really the soulful guy.
942
00:46:26,610 --> 00:46:28,510
He didn't seek
out the limelight.
943
00:46:29,850 --> 00:46:32,070
Don't just surf when
there's cameras.
944
00:46:32,071 --> 00:46:34,046
When there's cameras on
the beach, like, who are you?
945
00:46:34,070 --> 00:46:35,670
Say hello to your man.
946
00:46:35,850 --> 00:46:37,470
I'm putting music
over all this stuff.
947
00:46:38,270 --> 00:46:41,637
To all the guys, Todd came
across as so macho, but
948
00:46:41,638 --> 00:46:45,190
really, when it was just me
and him, he was such a softie.
949
00:46:47,510 --> 00:46:50,790
One night, Todd kept saying,
you should go to this one bar.
950
00:46:51,010 --> 00:46:54,130
So me and all my friends were there,
and all of a sudden, the singer goes,
951
00:46:54,515 --> 00:46:56,170
we have a special
guest here tonight.
952
00:46:57,310 --> 00:46:59,350
Mr. Todd Chester, come up.
953
00:46:59,510 --> 00:47:02,050
He has this white
70s ruffle tuxedo.
954
00:47:03,590 --> 00:47:08,210
And he got down on one knee and
said, will you marry me, honey baby?
955
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,270
And the singer said,
now you've got to answer.
956
00:47:13,145 --> 00:47:14,145
And I said, yes.
957
00:47:14,370 --> 00:47:15,370
And my eye, ooh.
958
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,380
Everything was
coming into place.
959
00:47:23,580 --> 00:47:24,860
He found the girl of his dreams.
960
00:47:24,940 --> 00:47:25,800
He had a good sponsor.
961
00:47:25,940 --> 00:47:27,540
Everything was
going just terrifically.
962
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,200
For Todd, it was the
time to finally grow up.
963
00:47:35,500 --> 00:47:36,700
We were all so happy.
964
00:47:36,701 --> 00:47:38,821
I'm excited for him to get
married and the whole deal.
965
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,000
Good morning.
966
00:47:40,370 --> 00:47:41,610
Where's the freaking elephants?
967
00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:45,096
He was just a good
example to remind us to stay
968
00:47:45,097 --> 00:47:47,020
true to ourselves and
remember what's important.
969
00:47:47,580 --> 00:47:49,720
He was the closest thing
to a soul surfer out of all
970
00:47:49,721 --> 00:47:52,980
of us because he didn't
care about the accolades.
971
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,500
It's not about titles.
972
00:47:55,660 --> 00:47:57,180
It's about being happy.
973
00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:02,400
I mean, nothing was cooler about our crew
than when Kelly won his first world title.
974
00:48:02,615 --> 00:48:06,240
We put that jerk in a freaking trash
can with a helmet and a blanket.
975
00:48:06,241 --> 00:48:07,281
We pushed him down a hill.
976
00:48:10,780 --> 00:48:12,560
He just ate crap
the whole way down.
977
00:48:13,740 --> 00:48:15,985
Any other sport, the
Michael Jordan in that sport, is
978
00:48:15,986 --> 00:48:18,241
not rolling down a mountain
after his first world title.
979
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:19,320
It was crazy.
980
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:20,440
It was a crazy time.
981
00:48:20,780 --> 00:48:24,860
I felt like all of my childhood dreams
came together in this weird reality where
982
00:48:24,861 --> 00:48:26,150
I was with my friends
traveling around the
983
00:48:26,151 --> 00:48:28,901
world, doing what I
wanted to do for a living.
984
00:48:29,860 --> 00:48:32,840
The best feeling that I
had was I just belonged.
985
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:37,620
For the longest time in my life, I
feel like the carrot dangling in front
986
00:48:37,621 --> 00:48:40,260
of the horse where I was like
right in front of me for so long.
987
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:41,480
And I was like
988
00:49:27,740 --> 00:49:29,120
Well, you got one now.
989
00:50:12,790 --> 00:50:13,870
That was great.
990
00:50:14,110 --> 00:50:14,850
Wow, that was groovy.
991
00:50:14,950 --> 00:50:15,990
Marshall, get out of here.
992
00:50:20,870 --> 00:50:23,050
In the mid-90s, it was our show.
993
00:50:23,630 --> 00:50:25,909
It was no longer the
new kids up against the
994
00:50:25,910 --> 00:50:28,911
guys that were still
hanging around from the 80s.
995
00:50:30,170 --> 00:50:32,730
We weren't looking up anymore,
and we were looking at each other.
996
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,060
The only reason Shane's good
is because he hangs out with me.
997
00:50:42,420 --> 00:50:43,500
That's the only reason.
998
00:50:44,860 --> 00:50:45,860
What?
999
00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:47,360
Because I like beating Ross.
1000
00:50:48,260 --> 00:50:50,740
He hasn't beat me in a long
time, and I'm really proud of that.
1001
00:50:51,740 --> 00:50:55,060
Ross and Shane had this
crazy rivalry at the time.
1002
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:56,800
They're the same age.
1003
00:50:56,860 --> 00:50:58,160
They had the same sponsor.
1004
00:50:58,460 --> 00:51:00,520
They were competing
at every level.
1005
00:51:00,740 --> 00:51:01,740
You want to go?
1006
00:51:02,260 --> 00:51:03,260
Yeah.
1007
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:06,460
You want to go?
1008
00:51:06,461 --> 00:51:08,200
I can
1009
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:16,420
still remember Shane had a
heat with Ross at Reunion Island.
1010
00:51:16,620 --> 00:51:18,080
They're screaming at each other.
1011
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:19,320
Fuck yous.
1012
00:51:19,321 --> 00:51:21,760
And we were just like, I'm
going to get the hell out of here.
1013
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,556
You know there's two
sides to every story?
1014
00:51:28,580 --> 00:51:28,880
There's not.
1015
00:51:29,220 --> 00:51:31,780
This story, there's
only one side.
1016
00:51:31,900 --> 00:51:32,900
It's the truth.
1017
00:51:33,395 --> 00:51:36,475
We were staying together at Reunion
Island, and then we were in the same heat.
1018
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:38,780
Shane versus Ross the next day.
1019
00:51:39,330 --> 00:51:41,020
And one board that
was super, super good.
1020
00:51:41,240 --> 00:51:42,540
I was so amped on the board.
1021
00:51:42,620 --> 00:51:44,540
I remember telling Ross
how good my board worked.
1022
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,020
The next morning I wake up.
1023
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:47,440
Ross is gone.
1024
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,000
Perfect fist-sized
hole in my board.
1025
00:51:50,785 --> 00:51:53,465
And we're staying together in the
same room with no one else around.
1026
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,240
I woke up in the middle of the
night and punched his board.
1027
00:51:56,780 --> 00:51:57,380
I don't know.
1028
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:58,720
I must have blocked that out.
1029
00:51:58,820 --> 00:51:59,560
I don't remember doing that.
1030
00:51:59,620 --> 00:52:00,620
That's crazy.
1031
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:01,800
What a snapper.
1032
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:02,880
I grew up in Waialua.
1033
00:52:02,980 --> 00:52:03,420
Can't help it.
1034
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:04,440
I'm part Moke.
1035
00:52:05,090 --> 00:52:06,396
I don't remember
doing that though.
1036
00:52:06,420 --> 00:52:06,860
Is he sure?
1037
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:08,120
I remember just going, wow.
1038
00:52:08,121 --> 00:52:09,680
I can't believe you do that.
1039
00:52:09,780 --> 00:52:10,780
So next level.
1040
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:12,400
And I beat him.
1041
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:15,820
It felt so good.
1042
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,080
I'm riding the board of
the hole and everything.
1043
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:22,497
Well, of course, Shane
would tell you that
1044
00:52:22,498 --> 00:52:25,001
story because that's the
one where he smoked me.
1045
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,840
But at the end of the day, our
rivalry wasn't as bad as Rob and Kelly.
1046
00:52:32,100 --> 00:52:34,020
And if you get behind,
you're just going to quit?
1047
00:52:34,500 --> 00:52:34,900
Yeah.
1048
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:36,120
Yeah, I like that.
1049
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:37,540
It makes it easier.
1050
00:52:37,620 --> 00:52:37,740
Yeah.
1051
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:38,840
I mean, it's all that about you.
1052
00:52:38,940 --> 00:52:40,196
You know, you give up so easily.
1053
00:52:40,220 --> 00:52:42,073
Especially that
one year, 95, where
1054
00:52:42,085 --> 00:52:44,520
everything came to a
head, there was conflict.
1055
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:49,120
So that's when you see this magnifying
glass on that raw motivation for Kelly,
1056
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:50,480
you know, almost like demons.
1057
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,680
It gets put on the
forefront against Rob.
1058
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,860
It feels really good
to be right here.
1059
00:52:56,861 --> 00:52:59,300
Kelly won the world
title in 92 and 94.
1060
00:53:00,780 --> 00:53:03,594
The rest of our crew, some
of us had won events, but
1061
00:53:03,595 --> 00:53:06,101
no one had even come
close to winning a world title.
1062
00:53:06,940 --> 00:53:10,340
And then 95, I was
having a really good year.
1063
00:53:11,020 --> 00:53:12,360
I got a win in Japan.
1064
00:53:12,820 --> 00:53:14,160
Kelly won Indonesia.
1065
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,020
I won an event in France.
1066
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,740
It was just this back and forth,
seesaw battle throughout the year.
1067
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,620
And then we came straight
back to the US Open.
1068
00:53:23,260 --> 00:53:24,800
And me and Kelly made the final.
1069
00:53:24,980 --> 00:53:28,040
And everybody was
kind of pulling for me.
1070
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,260
Kelly was just better than
everybody almost all the time.
1071
00:53:33,420 --> 00:53:35,660
When he would win, we wouldn't
all go run down to the tournament.
1072
00:53:35,661 --> 00:53:36,040
We'd run up to the beach.
1073
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:36,940
He was winning every week.
1074
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:38,036
I was just like, geez, man.
1075
00:53:38,060 --> 00:53:39,900
What question do I
get to ask the most?
1076
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:42,740
Uh, where's Kelly Slater?
1077
00:53:43,300 --> 00:53:44,800
He became, like, overly famous.
1078
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:45,760
He was dating Pam.
1079
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:46,700
He was on Baywatch.
1080
00:53:46,780 --> 00:53:48,460
And everybody in the
world knew who he was.
1081
00:53:48,700 --> 00:53:50,880
People started, like, wishing
the other guy would win.
1082
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,720
And Rob was the only one
that really stood a chance.
1083
00:53:53,940 --> 00:53:54,760
You travel with Kelly.
1084
00:53:54,860 --> 00:53:55,920
You play music with him.
1085
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,516
How's it going to be
going against him?
1086
00:53:57,540 --> 00:53:58,636
You got to do what
you got to do to win.
1087
00:53:58,660 --> 00:53:59,816
That's why we're
here, to win, right?
1088
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:00,680
One more in the water.
1089
00:54:00,780 --> 00:54:02,340
He's just another
guy with a jersey on.
1090
00:54:02,720 --> 00:54:04,060
Massive crowd
here at Huntington.
1091
00:54:04,061 --> 00:54:06,040
Two greatest four-wave
surfers in the world.
1092
00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:07,200
Slater's in front of him.
1093
00:54:07,260 --> 00:54:08,980
Look at him kicking
the water in Rob's face.
1094
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:09,700
He gets around the buoy.
1095
00:54:09,820 --> 00:54:10,900
It's messy for that.
1096
00:54:10,980 --> 00:54:12,176
He's going to go
on his backhand.
1097
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:13,496
He gets a little
rebound off the wave.
1098
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:20,900
Side-down reentry
at the end of it there.
1099
00:54:20,980 --> 00:54:22,800
Oh, Machado just
having a great final there.
1100
00:54:22,820 --> 00:54:23,980
This might be his final wave.
1101
00:54:24,020 --> 00:54:25,020
Big snap right there.
1102
00:54:29,660 --> 00:54:31,860
That was a pretty
significant win for me.
1103
00:54:32,260 --> 00:54:33,440
Everybody just went nuts.
1104
00:54:46,790 --> 00:54:48,030
Kelly was really good.
1105
00:54:48,050 --> 00:54:50,450
Really super
alpha, super intense.
1106
00:54:53,290 --> 00:54:56,050
He did some small things
that year that upset Rob,
1107
00:54:56,051 --> 00:54:58,631
where he tucked one of
Rob's boards in France.
1108
00:54:59,010 --> 00:55:01,386
Morris made me a couple boards
and they felt terrible, both of them.
1109
00:55:01,410 --> 00:55:03,246
I went over to his house and I
was like, these boards feel like shit.
1110
00:55:03,270 --> 00:55:04,050
I don't want to ride them.
1111
00:55:04,190 --> 00:55:05,010
You got anything else?
1112
00:55:05,190 --> 00:55:06,610
And he goes, I
made three for Rob.
1113
00:55:07,230 --> 00:55:08,230
They're downstairs.
1114
00:55:08,290 --> 00:55:09,826
He goes, you can't ride
three boards at once.
1115
00:55:09,850 --> 00:55:11,690
You might as well grab
one of those and try it.
1116
00:55:12,730 --> 00:55:14,050
New surfboards
are pretty sacred.
1117
00:55:15,890 --> 00:55:18,682
I would have a really
hard time taking someone's
1118
00:55:18,683 --> 00:55:20,790
brand new surfboard
that was made for them.
1119
00:55:20,850 --> 00:55:22,370
I don't care if there
was ten of them.
1120
00:55:24,210 --> 00:55:27,290
It turned really weird because I put
my traction pad on, I put my stickers on.
1121
00:55:28,470 --> 00:55:32,070
And Rob came over and he's like,
man, fucking take that shit off my board.
1122
00:55:32,510 --> 00:55:33,870
Give me that board
back, you know.
1123
00:55:34,190 --> 00:55:35,890
And he was kind
of just being a dick.
1124
00:55:36,530 --> 00:55:37,530
I was being a dick.
1125
00:55:38,550 --> 00:55:39,750
I thought he was being a dick.
1126
00:55:40,950 --> 00:55:41,950
That was mine.
1127
00:55:43,450 --> 00:55:46,490
And you took it and rode it and then put
your stickers on it and your traction pad.
1128
00:55:46,491 --> 00:55:49,010
And yeah, take it off.
1129
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,830
You should be returning
that thing to me brand new.
1130
00:55:53,490 --> 00:55:54,490
How it was.
1131
00:55:55,140 --> 00:55:56,140
I was like, fuck him.
1132
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:58,610
Take traction off
your own board.
1133
00:55:58,790 --> 00:56:00,270
I wasn't doing
this to be a dick.
1134
00:56:00,770 --> 00:56:03,830
I was just trying to be
nice and take the stuff off.
1135
00:56:03,950 --> 00:56:06,710
But then afterwards I realized, he
was really being a jerk, you know.
1136
00:56:07,325 --> 00:56:08,645
So then it kind
of pissed me off.
1137
00:56:10,550 --> 00:56:12,970
After that, Rob and
Kelly didn't talk for a while.
1138
00:56:13,530 --> 00:56:14,710
It got pretty weird.
1139
00:56:15,910 --> 00:56:19,290
You just feel the tension
building up to the last contest.
1140
00:56:19,750 --> 00:56:23,010
The pitch is divided between
Kelly Slater and Rob Machado.
1141
00:56:23,011 --> 00:56:25,330
The guys are the
best of friends.
1142
00:56:25,370 --> 00:56:28,430
We were going in to the
Pipeline Masters in Hawaii.
1143
00:56:28,710 --> 00:56:32,930
And Sonny Garcia from
Hawaii has a commanding lead.
1144
00:56:33,070 --> 00:56:35,126
They need me to do shitty,
which isn't going to happen.
1145
00:56:35,150 --> 00:56:39,090
And they need to do extremely
well, which is going to be hard.
1146
00:56:39,330 --> 00:56:41,030
So I'm pretty confident.
1147
00:56:41,490 --> 00:56:44,390
Sonny was going to bring
home the first Hawaiian world title.
1148
00:56:45,670 --> 00:56:47,290
So many people
were pulling for Sonny.
1149
00:56:48,210 --> 00:56:49,710
And Aki felt that stress.
1150
00:56:50,310 --> 00:56:51,630
It was for his world title.
1151
00:56:51,690 --> 00:56:52,850
He just had to win that heat.
1152
00:56:53,090 --> 00:56:57,430
I was getting threats from a few
Hawaiians saying, if you do win this heat,
1153
00:56:57,570 --> 00:57:00,290
you know, you might not be
going home and stuff like that.
1154
00:57:00,410 --> 00:57:01,410
And it was quite scary.
1155
00:57:01,650 --> 00:57:04,090
Masters champ up against
Hawaiian favorite Sonny.
1156
00:57:04,091 --> 00:57:05,226
But Sonny was having a shocker.
1157
00:57:05,250 --> 00:57:06,250
He broke his board.
1158
00:57:06,490 --> 00:57:08,170
Had to go to the beach
to get another one.
1159
00:57:08,230 --> 00:57:10,830
And while that was happening,
I'm sitting out there all by myself.
1160
00:57:11,070 --> 00:57:12,370
And a perfect wave came.
1161
00:57:12,630 --> 00:57:13,190
And what do I do?
1162
00:57:13,310 --> 00:57:13,910
I got to go.
1163
00:57:13,911 --> 00:57:15,150
I can't not go.
1164
00:57:15,370 --> 00:57:16,010
So I went.
1165
00:57:16,150 --> 00:57:17,270
And got a huge barrel.
1166
00:57:17,470 --> 00:57:18,670
And spat out.
1167
00:57:20,050 --> 00:57:21,090
I'm like, oh no.
1168
00:57:21,890 --> 00:57:24,070
Usually you'd be
coming out like claiming it.
1169
00:57:24,170 --> 00:57:24,930
But I'm coming out like this.
1170
00:57:24,970 --> 00:57:25,970
I'm like, oh no.
1171
00:57:26,010 --> 00:57:26,850
Five minutes left.
1172
00:57:26,930 --> 00:57:27,930
I need one more wave.
1173
00:57:27,970 --> 00:57:28,590
Poor Mark.
1174
00:57:28,770 --> 00:57:30,410
He's like, take this wave.
1175
00:57:30,490 --> 00:57:31,590
Take any wave you want.
1176
00:57:33,990 --> 00:57:34,990
Couldn't make a wave.
1177
00:57:35,790 --> 00:57:38,230
And I knew right then,
I just lost the world title.
1178
00:57:39,330 --> 00:57:41,350
And Aki ends up
winning the heat.
1179
00:57:42,090 --> 00:57:43,370
Out of the contest.
1180
00:57:43,371 --> 00:57:45,250
I don't believe what I just saw.
1181
00:57:45,290 --> 00:57:46,970
I was like, what just happened?
1182
00:57:47,270 --> 00:57:49,531
The state of Hawaii is... And
1183
00:57:55,910 --> 00:57:56,390
I was like, wow.
1184
00:57:56,570 --> 00:57:57,230
This is crazy.
1185
00:57:57,290 --> 00:57:59,310
It's almost like this big
door just opened up.
1186
00:57:59,770 --> 00:58:01,110
Time to get up.
1187
00:58:01,310 --> 00:58:02,910
This morning of
the quarterfinals.
1188
00:58:03,590 --> 00:58:05,130
Are you ready to rock and roll?
1189
00:58:05,370 --> 00:58:06,370
Yes.
1190
00:58:06,730 --> 00:58:09,810
Of course, me and Kelly come
up against each other in the semis.
1191
00:58:10,230 --> 00:58:12,770
Number one and two, Rob
Machado and Kelly Slater.
1192
00:58:12,890 --> 00:58:13,190
Rob Machado.
1193
00:58:13,290 --> 00:58:14,530
This guy's being on fire.
1194
00:58:14,730 --> 00:58:16,970
Both of them can do any
maneuver you can dream of.
1195
00:58:17,070 --> 00:58:20,290
The public knows Rob as
being a cruisy, mellow styrofoam.
1196
00:58:20,291 --> 00:58:20,670
He's a stylish guy.
1197
00:58:20,870 --> 00:58:22,150
Oh, Rob's like zen master.
1198
00:58:22,630 --> 00:58:23,290
Yeah, yeah.
1199
00:58:23,330 --> 00:58:24,130
Not when we were growing up.
1200
00:58:24,330 --> 00:58:27,330
He was as cutthroat
as any of us.
1201
00:58:27,630 --> 00:58:29,126
Rob and I are just
really competitive.
1202
00:58:29,150 --> 00:58:30,990
And I want to beat
him equally as bad.
1203
00:58:31,190 --> 00:58:33,630
By Rob making the semifinal,
he moved into first place.
1204
00:58:33,690 --> 00:58:34,290
He passed Sonny.
1205
00:58:34,370 --> 00:58:36,610
And I had to beat Rob
and then win the final.
1206
00:58:37,850 --> 00:58:39,350
Kelly had to win the final.
1207
00:58:39,530 --> 00:58:43,250
But if I beat Kelly,
I win the world title.
1208
00:58:51,460 --> 00:58:53,000
This one cloud blew through.
1209
00:58:53,001 --> 00:58:54,920
And it was just blue
sky all of a sudden.
1210
00:58:56,500 --> 00:58:59,100
The waves got
really, really good.
1211
00:59:01,180 --> 00:59:04,980
Back then, it was your best
three waves in 30 minutes.
1212
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,600
And I took out my left.
1213
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:12,940
I got a 10.
1214
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,720
And then Kelly got really deep.
1215
00:59:19,300 --> 00:59:20,380
Kelly got a 10.
1216
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:21,960
And...
1217
00:59:23,580 --> 00:59:28,437
I mean, up until that point,
between us both, that was
1218
00:59:28,438 --> 00:59:31,680
the highest scoring heat
in the history of pro surfing.
1219
00:59:35,540 --> 00:59:38,440
And in these conditions, they're
the two best we could ever ask for.
1220
00:59:38,460 --> 00:59:39,960
Rob Machado and Kelly Slater.
1221
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:41,560
It came down to
the end of the heat.
1222
00:59:42,580 --> 00:59:44,620
Kelly got the perfect left.
1223
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:45,540
Spit out a two.
1224
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:46,880
Did this big roundhouse.
1225
00:59:46,980 --> 00:59:48,580
And I hear the crowd go crazy.
1226
00:59:49,260 --> 00:59:50,360
And there's uncertainty.
1227
00:59:50,361 --> 00:59:50,720
And another one.
1228
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:52,880
Just a perfect 10-foot A-frame.
1229
00:59:53,140 --> 00:59:54,900
And I took off on the thing.
1230
00:59:55,060 --> 00:59:57,420
And I became, like, mesmerized.
1231
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:07,660
And I was just in this
bright blue cavern.
1232
01:00:14,220 --> 01:00:15,220
I come out.
1233
01:00:15,510 --> 01:00:18,240
And there's Kelly
with his arms up.
1234
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:18,940
You know?
1235
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:20,360
And...
1236
01:00:23,810 --> 01:00:26,080
I did kind of like this half
cut back and almost fell.
1237
01:00:26,081 --> 01:00:28,680
And then we high-fived.
1238
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,300
I see Rob lying out of a barrel.
1239
01:00:42,150 --> 01:00:44,900
And instead of kicking out to get
priority, and he would have won,
1240
01:00:45,725 --> 01:00:48,420
just goes that extra
further and high-fives Kelly.
1241
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,140
And maybe it was
Kelly doing that.
1242
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:54,040
Because he's there
going, please high-five me.
1243
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:55,920
And then I'm
going to get priority.
1244
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,260
And the way Kelly thinks,
he was probably thinking that.
1245
01:00:58,320 --> 01:00:58,860
For sure.
1246
01:00:59,220 --> 01:01:00,600
That wasn't by accident.
1247
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,120
Kelly doesn't do
shit by accident.
1248
01:01:03,295 --> 01:01:05,585
You don't become one of
the most dominant servers
1249
01:01:05,586 --> 01:01:07,540
on the planet by
giving people high-fives.
1250
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:08,220
You know?
1251
01:01:08,260 --> 01:01:10,220
I've never seen him ever
do that with anyone else.
1252
01:01:11,260 --> 01:01:13,320
I think a lot of people
read into that too much.
1253
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:15,240
I think that was
totally genuine.
1254
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,400
Like, his friend got spit out of a barrel
and threw a high-five at each other.
1255
01:01:19,020 --> 01:01:24,320
If you break down the actual high-five,
Kelly's thinking, yes, I still have this.
1256
01:01:24,380 --> 01:01:26,300
Like, I guarantee he
calculated the numbers.
1257
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,540
And Rob wastes
a bit of time there.
1258
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:30,600
Definitely a mistake, right?
1259
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:32,100
By giving the casual high-fives.
1260
01:01:32,101 --> 01:01:33,440
And the paddle back out.
1261
01:01:33,580 --> 01:01:34,660
And Kelly got the priority.
1262
01:01:34,940 --> 01:01:36,380
Meaning he got the next wave.
1263
01:01:38,180 --> 01:01:40,420
I fucking would have ran
Kelly's fucking ass over.
1264
01:01:41,275 --> 01:01:42,896
I would have just got
him under interference.
1265
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:44,360
Even if I just
clipped him and fell.
1266
01:01:44,780 --> 01:01:46,540
I'm fucking out there
to win the world title.
1267
01:01:46,620 --> 01:01:48,500
Fucking high-five you
when you get on the beach.
1268
01:01:48,660 --> 01:01:50,020
After I fucking take you down.
1269
01:01:50,940 --> 01:01:54,360
Like, you know, to me that
just... You know, I'm a competitor.
1270
01:01:55,100 --> 01:01:56,820
And I know that
Kelly is the same way.
1271
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:01,700
He is the most calculated,
smartest, driven server ever.
1272
01:02:03,180 --> 01:02:04,580
They're the reason
for everything.
1273
01:02:04,860 --> 01:02:06,180
I would have just run him over.
1274
01:02:06,260 --> 01:02:07,476
Because he was right in the way.
1275
01:02:07,500 --> 01:02:10,720
But Rob fell into the trap
and Kelly won the world title.
1276
01:02:10,860 --> 01:02:11,860
Yet again.
1277
01:02:27,510 --> 01:02:28,890
Am I going to run someone over?
1278
01:02:29,330 --> 01:02:30,330
No.
1279
01:02:30,510 --> 01:02:32,050
That's just not in my DNA.
1280
01:02:33,405 --> 01:02:35,230
Maybe that was
the downfall for me.
1281
01:02:36,070 --> 01:02:37,070
You know, I wasn't...
1282
01:02:37,305 --> 01:02:40,550
I didn't have that
cutthroat mentality.
1283
01:02:40,910 --> 01:02:41,910
You know?
1284
01:02:42,155 --> 01:02:45,130
Was the high-five a
tactical maneuver?
1285
01:02:46,130 --> 01:02:47,130
On Kelly's part?
1286
01:02:48,910 --> 01:02:50,670
Kelly is so calculated.
1287
01:02:51,555 --> 01:02:53,970
Like, he knew exactly
what he needed to do.
1288
01:02:55,350 --> 01:02:56,010
I don't know.
1289
01:02:56,330 --> 01:02:57,890
I'd love to hear his
side of the story.
1290
01:02:58,790 --> 01:02:59,903
It bums me out more
than anything to hear
1291
01:02:59,927 --> 01:03:02,430
that from people who
are my friends, you know?
1292
01:03:03,290 --> 01:03:04,450
I think it's just outrageous.
1293
01:03:04,830 --> 01:03:06,070
I never thought of that at all.
1294
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:11,470
And in my memories of thinking about
the heat, there was never any intention
1295
01:03:11,471 --> 01:03:14,530
whatsoever other than just to be
stoked and express that right then.
1296
01:03:14,970 --> 01:03:17,890
And I don't think it would have mattered
so much anyways, because I was trying to
1297
01:03:17,891 --> 01:03:20,211
go right on every wave and
Rob was trying to go left, so...
1298
01:03:20,270 --> 01:03:21,750
Priority wouldn't
even have mattered.
1299
01:03:24,310 --> 01:03:26,470
A little later, we took like
30 friends out to dinner.
1300
01:03:26,550 --> 01:03:27,270
We were all celebrating.
1301
01:03:27,490 --> 01:03:29,662
The hard thing was Rob was
at the same restaurant with
1302
01:03:29,722 --> 01:03:31,910
his family, and, you know,
they were all really somber.
1303
01:03:33,190 --> 01:03:34,670
It was a weird predicament.
1304
01:03:39,580 --> 01:03:41,760
That marked the beginning
of some dark years.
1305
01:03:49,990 --> 01:03:52,430
It was the morning
of February 13th.
1306
01:03:53,330 --> 01:03:54,350
Todd was out in the yard.
1307
01:03:54,370 --> 01:03:57,030
Getting ready to go surfing
and I thought he had left.
1308
01:03:57,510 --> 01:04:00,960
Then I heard something
and I peeked out the door
1309
01:04:00,961 --> 01:04:05,470
down the hallway and I
saw him standing there.
1310
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:07,120
And he was just standing there.
1311
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:10,930
He just said, I love you.
1312
01:04:11,580 --> 01:04:12,580
I said, I love you.
1313
01:04:12,790 --> 01:04:18,250
And there's a part of me that
almost felt like he knew something.
1314
01:04:18,950 --> 01:04:19,630
I don't know.
1315
01:04:19,710 --> 01:04:22,130
It was just the look
on his face that day.
1316
01:04:22,230 --> 01:04:22,630
I'll never forget.
1317
01:04:22,670 --> 01:04:24,581
I can't remember what I
had for lunch yesterday, but
1318
01:04:24,582 --> 01:04:26,671
I will never forget the look
on his face that morning.
1319
01:04:39,970 --> 01:04:41,050
All came in.
1320
01:04:41,150 --> 01:04:42,890
Three surfers in the
surface of the alley.
1321
01:04:42,990 --> 01:04:47,271
Rescue crew pulled 27-year-old Todd Chesser
from the waters just south of Waimea Bay.
1322
01:04:48,830 --> 01:04:51,290
Lifeguards found Todd's
body after 40 minutes.
1323
01:04:51,291 --> 01:04:53,026
The short break at Waimea
was critical at that time.
1324
01:04:53,050 --> 01:04:53,970
60-foot face.
1325
01:04:54,070 --> 01:04:54,990
We tried to give him TPR.
1326
01:04:54,991 --> 01:04:55,991
Too much water.
1327
01:04:56,590 --> 01:04:59,430
Safety officials closed
all North Shore beaches.
1328
01:04:59,770 --> 01:05:02,590
He's set to be married to
Janet Rollins on August 2nd.
1329
01:05:02,591 --> 01:05:09,150
Tight staff managing the
signs Cheeseiano Nelson Club.
1330
01:05:12,620 --> 01:05:17,920
I got a call from this girl at work
saying that my son was in trouble.
1331
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:20,962
I jumped in my car
and was praying saying,
1332
01:05:20,963 --> 01:05:24,541
don't let this happen,
don't let this be real.
1333
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:28,240
So, yeah, I went
to the hospital.
1334
01:05:29,180 --> 01:05:30,620
And all the friends
were out there.
1335
01:05:31,610 --> 01:05:33,050
All the friends
were standing there.
1336
01:05:36,180 --> 01:05:42,380
And then the doctor told me, we think your
son passed away before the ambulance came.
1337
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:47,980
And I said to the doctor, I said,
well, that must be really hard for you to
1338
01:05:47,981 --> 01:05:50,780
tell people this that
happened to their loved one.
1339
01:05:51,170 --> 01:05:52,410
It must be really hard for you.
1340
01:05:53,110 --> 01:05:55,192
I was feeling that
compassion for that
1341
01:05:55,204 --> 01:05:57,621
person and trying not
to think about myself.
1342
01:05:58,515 --> 01:06:01,200
But yeah, it was the
worst day of my life.
1343
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,420
I remember just looking
at grown men just falling.
1344
01:06:31,140 --> 01:06:32,140
Holy shit.
1345
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:34,600
Todd's gone.
1346
01:06:37,500 --> 01:06:40,460
It was just like losing
a family member.
1347
01:06:41,540 --> 01:06:46,560
He was the unkillable,
unfadable, unscareable dude.
1348
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:48,160
You can't kill him.
1349
01:06:49,180 --> 01:06:51,160
Certain guys just
couldn't be taken down.
1350
01:06:51,660 --> 01:06:54,680
He was like a giant was gone.
1351
01:06:55,540 --> 01:06:58,740
At first, it didn't make sense.
1352
01:06:59,020 --> 01:07:00,600
It didn't even really register.
1353
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:11,720
And then it just hit me, like someone had
taken a baseball bat and just swung it at
1354
01:07:11,721 --> 01:07:15,640
my stomach as hard as
they could and wouldn't stop.
1355
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:23,360
Todd was like a mentor
for a lot of younger guys.
1356
01:07:23,820 --> 01:07:24,840
He's an incredible guy.
1357
01:07:25,780 --> 01:07:27,460
I just wanted to say,
geez, we'll miss you.
1358
01:07:28,460 --> 01:07:32,120
At his funeral, I'm sitting next to his
fiancée and all these people, and I just
1359
01:07:32,121 --> 01:07:33,980
remember going, fuck,
this is just too much.
1360
01:07:34,140 --> 01:07:35,140
This is too much.
1361
01:07:37,020 --> 01:07:40,960
Everyone here was who we
wanted to be at our wedding.
1362
01:07:43,220 --> 01:07:45,480
I mean, fuck.
1363
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:47,080
It's hard, man.
1364
01:07:47,081 --> 01:07:49,020
I was so worried about Janet.
1365
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:50,400
I was so worried about Jeannie.
1366
01:07:55,590 --> 01:08:03,140
I almost felt guilty for being so sad
because she had lost so much already in
1367
01:08:03,141 --> 01:08:05,900
her life, you know, with
Todd's dad passing away.
1368
01:08:06,835 --> 01:08:09,223
And Todd was like her
everything and just felt
1369
01:08:09,224 --> 01:08:12,341
like too much to have
to deal with for her.
1370
01:08:14,420 --> 01:08:20,060
When I saw what she was going through,
I realized what I was supposed to do,
1371
01:08:20,250 --> 01:08:21,700
and it was be there for her.
1372
01:08:23,015 --> 01:08:25,380
And I told my mom, I'm
going to Fiji in six days.
1373
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:26,960
I'm going to take her.
1374
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,284
We stayed in a little hut,
and she just would cry
1375
01:08:32,285 --> 01:08:35,460
all night, and she just
kept yelling at me, why?
1376
01:08:35,740 --> 01:08:36,340
Like, why?
1377
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:37,520
Why is this happening?
1378
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:39,040
I didn't know what to say.
1379
01:08:42,870 --> 01:08:45,290
On that trip, she
brought Todd's last board.
1380
01:08:46,370 --> 01:08:49,310
And one day, we paddle out,
to a place called Restaurants.
1381
01:08:49,590 --> 01:08:50,630
It was completely flat.
1382
01:08:51,210 --> 01:08:54,430
And then out of nowhere, a
four-foot wave coming off the reef.
1383
01:08:54,830 --> 01:08:56,810
She catches it, gets
barreled on his board.
1384
01:08:56,870 --> 01:08:57,290
She rips.
1385
01:08:57,370 --> 01:08:58,430
Going down the line.
1386
01:08:58,490 --> 01:08:59,530
I get the next one.
1387
01:08:59,590 --> 01:08:59,970
We're flying.
1388
01:09:00,130 --> 01:09:01,030
She's screaming at me.
1389
01:09:01,070 --> 01:09:01,630
I'm screaming at her.
1390
01:09:01,690 --> 01:09:02,806
We surf for an hour and a half.
1391
01:09:02,830 --> 01:09:05,770
We come to the beach, and everybody
that was on the island was watching.
1392
01:09:07,495 --> 01:09:09,566
People came in from Cloud
Break, and I go, was it bombing?
1393
01:09:09,590 --> 01:09:10,590
They're all, it was flat.
1394
01:09:11,345 --> 01:09:14,910
It gives me chicken skin because if
you surf, you know how rare that was.
1395
01:09:15,030 --> 01:09:18,430
And she was on his board, and I
swear it was like he was saying bye.
1396
01:09:25,830 --> 01:09:27,550
She didn't sleep
for seven nights.
1397
01:09:27,630 --> 01:09:29,490
That night was the
only night she slept.
1398
01:09:29,770 --> 01:09:30,770
The only night.
1399
01:09:32,370 --> 01:09:35,430
That day, Jeannie got a
goodbye hug from her son.
1400
01:09:35,750 --> 01:09:38,310
I thought it was just one of the
most special moments of my life.
1401
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:53,056
I'll always be thankful to
Benji for taking me on that
1402
01:09:53,057 --> 01:09:55,540
trip because it was the
thing that I needed to heal.
1403
01:09:58,490 --> 01:10:01,880
But Benji had a really tough
time for a while after that.
1404
01:10:04,170 --> 01:10:07,440
After Chester passed
away, I hated surfing.
1405
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:10,160
It was tough.
1406
01:10:13,950 --> 01:10:15,550
I got into drinking more.
1407
01:10:15,750 --> 01:10:18,090
Tons of cocaine and
ecstasy was our thing.
1408
01:10:18,370 --> 01:10:21,290
But every time I woke up,
I realized he was still gone.
1409
01:10:22,590 --> 01:10:23,910
I was definitely depressed.
1410
01:10:24,190 --> 01:10:25,210
I was suicidal.
1411
01:10:26,670 --> 01:10:29,410
So I checked into this place
called Inpatient Whatever.
1412
01:10:29,411 --> 01:10:33,330
There was all these people that
were on smack, heroin, all this stuff.
1413
01:10:33,430 --> 01:10:35,250
I just needed, I
needed to talk to people.
1414
01:10:35,350 --> 01:10:35,950
I needed help.
1415
01:10:36,010 --> 01:10:37,010
Like, I wanted answers.
1416
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:44,380
Men have the hardest time
with feelings and emotion.
1417
01:10:45,165 --> 01:10:47,060
A lot of macho, a lot of ego.
1418
01:10:47,740 --> 01:10:50,760
So you never really
go, let's talk about this.
1419
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,101
In our group of friends, I
don't know if we ever actually
1420
01:10:58,201 --> 01:11:00,900
sat around and said, hey
man, how you doing with that?
1421
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:02,420
Shut up.
1422
01:11:02,421 --> 01:11:04,720
It was just something
I wanted to forget.
1423
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:06,560
And I think that
goes for a lot of us.
1424
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:13,020
We felt like Todd had been
taken from us personally.
1425
01:11:14,180 --> 01:11:16,280
Not just our group,
but like us personally.
1426
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:19,220
I felt like I had
been taken from me.
1427
01:11:20,700 --> 01:11:23,880
My way of dealing with it was I
just felt more comfortable by myself.
1428
01:11:26,480 --> 01:11:28,200
I just didn't want to
talk about it anymore.
1429
01:11:29,500 --> 01:11:31,100
I didn't want to think
about it anymore.
1430
01:11:33,980 --> 01:11:36,408
If we would have sat down
and just like talked it out,
1431
01:11:36,409 --> 01:11:39,100
it would have helped a
lot of us process it better.
1432
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,900
We were kind of worried
about showing weakness.
1433
01:11:44,820 --> 01:11:46,740
You don't want to show
your competitive weakness.
1434
01:11:51,460 --> 01:11:54,760
There is underlying tensions from
competing on the world tour against each
1435
01:11:54,761 --> 01:11:58,460
other, and people were starting
companies that didn't involve everybody.
1436
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,200
We were all angry and
looking for someone to blame.
1437
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:06,952
It was the start of
the change from it's
1438
01:12:06,964 --> 01:12:10,261
all fun and games to
it all getting serious.
1439
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:15,000
Money started coming into play.
1440
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:17,560
Managers came into
play during this time.
1441
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:19,903
I had many arguments
with Kelly's manager
1442
01:12:19,904 --> 01:12:23,481
because he wanted money
to use him in my movies.
1443
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:29,120
Soon after, Kelly's manager was also
Rob's manager and Kalani's manager.
1444
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:33,160
And that's when I said, fine,
I'm not going to shoot him.
1445
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:40,477
In February of 1997, Todd
Chesser died and then that
1446
01:12:40,478 --> 01:12:43,461
same year was the last
time we made a film together.
1447
01:12:48,020 --> 01:12:50,420
I remember Taylor telling us
that he was going to be done.
1448
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:53,123
And I was feeling a sadness
like we were part of something
1449
01:12:53,124 --> 01:12:55,141
really special and that
it was the end of an era.
1450
01:12:56,860 --> 01:13:01,300
The catalyst that brought us together,
filming with Taylor, that was gone.
1451
01:13:01,740 --> 01:13:05,124
And really, people were
just trying to take care
1452
01:13:05,125 --> 01:13:07,941
of themselves, looking
after their own interests.
1453
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:10,736
I guess people can get pretty
ruthless when money's on the line.
1454
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:13,200
So I've kind of put the
money out of my head.
1455
01:13:13,300 --> 01:13:17,240
Chesser would call you a sellout if
you were becoming too business-headed.
1456
01:13:17,700 --> 01:13:20,622
He made sure that you're
surfing for the right reasons
1457
01:13:20,623 --> 01:13:23,081
and you're part of the
group for the right reasons.
1458
01:13:23,370 --> 01:13:26,393
He enjoyed all of us
hanging out together way
1459
01:13:26,394 --> 01:13:30,001
more than making a
dollar or being famous.
1460
01:13:31,140 --> 01:13:35,220
Todd definitely never let financial
upside influence our decision-making.
1461
01:13:37,450 --> 01:13:38,920
When Todd died, that was gone.
1462
01:13:41,090 --> 01:13:43,290
Soon afterwards, a lot of us
started going our own ways.
1463
01:13:48,850 --> 01:13:51,568
At some point, you grow up
and stop living at your friend's
1464
01:13:51,569 --> 01:13:53,830
house in San Diego going to
punk rock shows, you know?
1465
01:13:54,590 --> 01:13:56,500
At some point, you start
to figure out, yeah, we
1466
01:13:56,540 --> 01:13:58,630
love all these guys, but,
like, my life's this thing.
1467
01:13:58,750 --> 01:14:00,770
And, you know, not
everyone fits into this thing.
1468
01:14:02,570 --> 01:14:05,561
And for me, the
competition shifted to being
1469
01:14:05,562 --> 01:14:08,971
more important than
camaraderie in those years.
1470
01:14:10,970 --> 01:14:14,310
That was my way to focus
my, I don't know, sadness.
1471
01:14:14,311 --> 01:14:19,150
After Todd passed away, winning
competitions wouldn't address the pain.
1472
01:14:19,290 --> 01:14:20,710
It would just fuel my direction.
1473
01:14:22,630 --> 01:14:24,870
It gave me a sense
of pride in myself.
1474
01:14:25,950 --> 01:14:27,130
People noticing you.
1475
01:14:28,750 --> 01:14:32,230
It makes you feel good, however
shallow or deep that could be.
1476
01:14:34,190 --> 01:14:36,730
So I went on this
absolute tear competitively.
1477
01:14:36,910 --> 01:14:39,670
I thought in my head, there's no
reason I can't win every contest.
1478
01:14:41,690 --> 01:14:42,890
I wanted it all, you know?
1479
01:14:43,230 --> 01:14:44,910
I just wanted to win
absolutely everything.
1480
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:01,860
For Kelly, whenever he had a breakup
or problems with family or whatever,
1481
01:15:02,020 --> 01:15:05,500
he was able to channel that into
annihilating people underwater.
1482
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:16,005
We were all competitive,
but if you're gonna be a
1483
01:15:16,006 --> 01:15:18,460
world champion, you
gotta be frickin' an animal.
1484
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:25,124
Kelly had this idea in
his mind that he wanted to
1485
01:15:25,125 --> 01:15:27,880
break Mark Richards'
record and win five in a row.
1486
01:15:28,180 --> 01:15:30,900
And we're the only ones that
we're gonna get in his way.
1487
01:15:34,540 --> 01:15:38,080
Competing against your friend and
holding him off waves or keeping priority,
1488
01:15:38,860 --> 01:15:42,020
to me, it's against
the art of surfing.
1489
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:47,120
Deep down inside, I probably knew I
wasn't ruthless enough to win a world title
1490
01:15:47,121 --> 01:15:51,640
because I'm not comfortable with
doing the dirty work that needs to be done.
1491
01:15:52,100 --> 01:15:54,382
You bang boards, you try
and push each other out of
1492
01:15:54,383 --> 01:15:56,841
position, every now and again
you get the elbow in the head.
1493
01:15:56,940 --> 01:15:58,140
This is what we call hassling.
1494
01:15:58,300 --> 01:16:01,340
There's a lot of guys who are amazing
surfers but such mellow characters that
1495
01:16:01,341 --> 01:16:04,480
they couldn't bring themselves to do
that and so their careers are very short.
1496
01:16:06,900 --> 01:16:09,400
You have to be a bit
of an asshole to win.
1497
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,520
And I didn't have that
killer instinct in that way.
1498
01:16:13,165 --> 01:16:15,725
The last couple years on tour, I
was like, dude, what am I doing?
1499
01:16:16,270 --> 01:16:19,140
I was pretty quick to realize
that this isn't for me anymore.
1500
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:23,840
When I was in heats, I knew that I
should have been achieving more.
1501
01:16:24,020 --> 01:16:26,680
I was constantly blaming
the judges for shitty results.
1502
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:31,940
And then all of a sudden, breaking
my foot, I was like, just, I'm out of here.
1503
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:36,600
The competitive thing was
a real cutthroat business.
1504
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:39,320
You're only as good as your
rating at the end of the year.
1505
01:16:39,980 --> 01:16:43,920
I had to learn to be able to sit on
people with priority and use tactics.
1506
01:16:46,860 --> 01:16:49,580
And I felt like this is not
where I'm supposed to be.
1507
01:16:51,900 --> 01:16:53,855
When I was on tour,
people were talking about
1508
01:16:53,856 --> 01:16:55,580
the next Kelly Slater
and shit like that.
1509
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:57,860
And I was like,
I'm not that guy.
1510
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:02,740
I wasn't ready to go to those dark
places to win that world championship.
1511
01:17:03,940 --> 01:17:05,260
Nobody wants it like Kelly.
1512
01:17:05,500 --> 01:17:08,820
He's such a gnarly,
gnarly savage.
1513
01:17:09,180 --> 01:17:11,331
This controversial
play by Slater forced an
1514
01:17:11,411 --> 01:17:13,920
interference penalty on
Besshia, costing him the win.
1515
01:17:13,921 --> 01:17:15,620
Kelly panels up
over Shane's back.
1516
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:16,400
Gives him interference.
1517
01:17:16,620 --> 01:17:18,256
Surfers don't like
it, but it is allowed.
1518
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:19,800
Almost like cheating
within the rules.
1519
01:17:19,940 --> 01:17:22,240
I despise people that
do that kind of stuff.
1520
01:17:22,440 --> 01:17:25,561
After the heat with Kelly
at the Pipe Masters in
1521
01:17:25,562 --> 01:17:28,361
95, I started to struggle
with being as competitive.
1522
01:17:29,100 --> 01:17:30,500
I lost motivation.
1523
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,660
I just got really salty
at the whole tour.
1524
01:17:34,420 --> 01:17:36,500
People got that vibe from me.
1525
01:17:36,860 --> 01:17:42,360
Then when I broke my hand, all the surfers
had this vote for the injury wildcards.
1526
01:17:42,965 --> 01:17:45,996
If you have a really bad injury and
you're not able to compete during the year,
1527
01:17:46,020 --> 01:17:49,800
then you can apply for an injury wildcard
to qualify for the next year on the tour.
1528
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:51,900
So I was applying
for an injury wildcard.
1529
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:53,760
Rob was applying
for an injury wildcard.
1530
01:17:54,420 --> 01:17:55,300
It's super awkward.
1531
01:17:55,380 --> 01:17:57,980
You go up and plead your case
to all the guys who are on the tour.
1532
01:17:58,340 --> 01:17:59,540
And then everybody votes.
1533
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:05,520
Here we are voting between
Rob and Shane Dorian.
1534
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:06,840
Two friends.
1535
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:08,736
There's only one guy
who's going to get it.
1536
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:11,580
The grumblings around town
were that Rob's over the tour.
1537
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:13,080
He doesn't care
about it anymore.
1538
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:15,580
So they voted for Shane.
1539
01:18:16,940 --> 01:18:17,940
Yeah.
1540
01:18:19,215 --> 01:18:20,215
I was done.
1541
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:21,720
I'm off the tour.
1542
01:18:26,190 --> 01:18:29,850
Going through the transition of being
a professional surfer to what's your next
1543
01:18:29,851 --> 01:18:33,110
chapter in life, there's no books
out there to tell you how to do it.
1544
01:18:34,150 --> 01:18:38,770
When it happened to me, I went from a very
busy life and busy schedule to all of a
1545
01:18:38,771 --> 01:18:42,650
sudden grinding to a halt and being
at home and just listening to the quiet.
1546
01:18:44,610 --> 01:18:47,770
It started to turn very dark
and I became depressed.
1547
01:18:50,950 --> 01:18:54,691
After I'd quit the tour, I
ended up working for a
1548
01:18:54,692 --> 01:18:57,471
biotech company helping
for marketing and trade shows.
1549
01:18:58,210 --> 01:19:00,010
Wearing a suit and
tie and shit every day.
1550
01:19:01,250 --> 01:19:02,250
Behind a desk.
1551
01:19:03,510 --> 01:19:05,190
So I was like, this is heavy.
1552
01:19:05,330 --> 01:19:07,750
Like, what am I doing?
1553
01:19:10,190 --> 01:19:12,350
After I was voted off
the tour, my son and
1554
01:19:12,351 --> 01:19:14,931
I and my sponsor at
the time went bankrupt.
1555
01:19:15,590 --> 01:19:17,150
I thought it was
the end of the world.
1556
01:19:17,410 --> 01:19:18,410
I'm not on tour.
1557
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:19,840
I don't have a sponsor.
1558
01:19:20,970 --> 01:19:21,970
Holy crap.
1559
01:19:22,130 --> 01:19:23,130
What am I gonna do?
1560
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:35,940
After Rob got off tour,
he was a broken man.
1561
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:39,407
A couple years later,
he came to Bali and lived
1562
01:19:39,408 --> 01:19:42,381
in my house for six months
being really negative.
1563
01:19:43,630 --> 01:19:48,040
And so we came up with a movie that
we could do together to help get him back.
1564
01:19:48,700 --> 01:19:49,700
In a positive zone.
1565
01:19:55,930 --> 01:19:58,090
These kids here play
this game with rocks.
1566
01:19:58,510 --> 01:19:59,850
They throw one up in the air.
1567
01:20:00,030 --> 01:20:01,970
They pick up the other
ones before it falls.
1568
01:20:05,210 --> 01:20:06,830
I'm not really sure how you win.
1569
01:20:08,890 --> 01:20:09,970
But maybe you don't.
1570
01:20:12,570 --> 01:20:13,570
Maybe you just play.
1571
01:20:15,250 --> 01:20:17,206
At the start of it he
was in a really bad place
1572
01:20:17,207 --> 01:20:20,011
and at the end of it it
was the old Rob again.
1573
01:20:24,890 --> 01:20:26,050
It was just like old times.
1574
01:20:26,790 --> 01:20:31,310
But now, he was reinventing
himself and becoming a free surfer.
1575
01:20:31,570 --> 01:20:33,847
Trying to make a living
on just sponsor money
1576
01:20:33,848 --> 01:20:36,751
without the need to be
competing on the world tour.
1577
01:20:37,770 --> 01:20:40,670
And the Drifter helped
with his sponsorships so that
1578
01:20:40,671 --> 01:20:43,470
he could actually go on
trips and make surf movies.
1579
01:20:44,670 --> 01:20:49,210
Taylor Steele is responsible for this
new phase of my life and my career.
1580
01:20:50,470 --> 01:20:51,650
I'm beyond grateful.
1581
01:20:52,750 --> 01:20:54,070
He revived me.
1582
01:20:55,490 --> 01:20:56,490
He made me who I am.
1583
01:20:57,510 --> 01:21:02,130
At the time if you stopped being
on the tour you vanished into thin air.
1584
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:03,320
Like that was it for you.
1585
01:21:04,830 --> 01:21:09,630
Rob was the first person who ever left
the tour who had success immediately.
1586
01:21:10,770 --> 01:21:14,970
So I went to my sponsors and
said Rob left the tour and look at him.
1587
01:21:16,630 --> 01:21:20,130
And I quit the tour with the
intention to surf really big waves.
1588
01:21:21,210 --> 01:21:24,470
There was definitely a part of that
that had to do with doing it for Todd too.
1589
01:21:29,740 --> 01:21:33,640
On a subconscious level I felt like I
needed to surf big waves so that Todd
1590
01:21:33,641 --> 01:21:35,321
would be proud of me
even when he was gone.
1591
01:21:55,430 --> 01:21:57,970
Shane Dorian the greatest
big wave surfer of all time.
1592
01:21:58,130 --> 01:21:59,410
Don't think you can debate that.
1593
01:22:00,770 --> 01:22:03,990
Shane has really focused on the
traditional big wave riding approach.
1594
01:22:04,710 --> 01:22:09,230
And that's to paddle in with your bare
arms into a 60 foot wave and get barreled.
1595
01:22:11,430 --> 01:22:13,590
For some people it's
getting to the top of Everest.
1596
01:22:13,890 --> 01:22:15,330
For me it's big waves.
1597
01:22:16,570 --> 01:22:21,230
The ocean is throwing everything at
you that it can and in that fleeting moment
1598
01:22:21,231 --> 01:22:25,030
you feel like every single experience in
your whole surfing life comes together for
1599
01:22:25,031 --> 01:22:26,711
you to ride that wave
absolutely perfectly.
1600
01:22:27,350 --> 01:22:29,410
It's happened maybe
three times in my life.
1601
01:22:29,710 --> 01:22:31,030
That's what keeps
me coming back.
1602
01:22:33,490 --> 01:22:34,832
Rob leaving and
having success definitely
1603
01:22:34,833 --> 01:22:37,971
inspired me to do what
I really wanted to do.
1604
01:22:40,090 --> 01:22:45,590
At that time in my life I was traveling
around the world surfing and I remember at
1605
01:22:45,591 --> 01:22:51,070
one point I flew to Australia I walked
into this restaurant and I looked over and
1606
01:22:51,071 --> 01:22:55,398
Kelly was sitting in the corner
by himself and he was pale
1607
01:22:55,399 --> 01:23:00,570
and he looked 10 pounds
lighter like in the darkest place.
1608
01:23:02,820 --> 01:23:04,540
The contest was meant
to start the next day.
1609
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:07,240
I remember him telling me
like I don't want to surf right now.
1610
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:11,410
And I was like don't.
1611
01:23:11,810 --> 01:23:12,810
Go home.
1612
01:23:13,700 --> 01:23:15,450
And fix whatever
you need to fix.
1613
01:23:19,010 --> 01:23:21,830
He withdrew from the contest
and got on a plane and left.
1614
01:23:27,950 --> 01:23:32,610
Through my most competitive and passionate
years I had these ultimate highs.
1615
01:23:34,210 --> 01:23:37,191
But there was no way to
have those without having
1616
01:23:37,192 --> 01:23:40,271
these lows that other
people can't even understand.
1617
01:23:42,530 --> 01:23:44,386
I went through a pretty
gnarly depression that
1618
01:23:44,387 --> 01:23:47,191
I think a lot of my
friends weren't aware of.
1619
01:23:49,510 --> 01:23:54,160
And then after I won my
sixth world title and beat Mark
1620
01:23:54,161 --> 01:23:57,630
Richards' record I just literally
broke down and started crying.
1621
01:24:00,230 --> 01:24:01,590
I had a real epiphany.
1622
01:24:01,930 --> 01:24:04,470
That competitiveness
was taking a toll on me.
1623
01:24:04,590 --> 01:24:06,453
It was really sapping
me of enjoying what I
1624
01:24:06,454 --> 01:24:09,111
was doing and detracting
from my friendships.
1625
01:24:10,850 --> 01:24:15,390
And then my mother called me
and said that my dad had cancer.
1626
01:24:15,790 --> 01:24:17,610
And that was the
breaking point right there.
1627
01:24:20,150 --> 01:24:22,933
I had a few nights I
literally cried myself to sleep
1628
01:24:22,934 --> 01:24:25,710
because I was so angry
and confused about my dad.
1629
01:24:28,930 --> 01:24:31,990
Like, why would my dad drink so
much and cheat on my mom so much?
1630
01:24:32,090 --> 01:24:38,350
And I don't think my father came
to one world tour event I ever surfed.
1631
01:24:39,250 --> 01:24:43,090
But then I came to Hawaii for the
Pipe Masters when he was dying.
1632
01:24:43,950 --> 01:24:45,850
I remember surfing the
finals and he was crying.
1633
01:24:46,070 --> 01:24:47,166
And I said, what
are you crying for?
1634
01:24:47,190 --> 01:24:49,070
He was just like, man,
I'm just so proud of you.
1635
01:24:49,635 --> 01:24:51,150
I'm like, sorry I didn't win.
1636
01:24:51,250 --> 01:24:52,466
I really wanted to
win for your dad.
1637
01:24:52,490 --> 01:24:54,190
He's like, no, you won.
1638
01:24:54,330 --> 01:24:55,690
He's like, don't
worry about that.
1639
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:57,200
He's like, I'm just
so proud of you.
1640
01:25:00,190 --> 01:25:00,710
I don't know.
1641
01:25:00,770 --> 01:25:01,370
It was just tough.
1642
01:25:01,630 --> 01:25:09,370
You know, my dad's dying of cancer
and can barely take care of himself.
1643
01:25:09,630 --> 01:25:12,250
And Ross lets him
come sit at the house.
1644
01:25:12,251 --> 01:25:13,251
I don't know.
1645
01:25:15,430 --> 01:25:23,430
It's, I don't think I've ever shown
him a real appreciation for that.
1646
01:25:27,500 --> 01:25:33,180
After his dad died, it was quite beautiful
when Kelly reached out to a lot of us and
1647
01:25:33,181 --> 01:25:35,720
had real, sincere
conversations with us all.
1648
01:25:37,420 --> 01:25:42,160
I had never seen him so
stripped bare emotionally.
1649
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:43,020
That was tough.
1650
01:25:43,145 --> 01:25:45,440
Obviously, in life,
you've got to fight it.
1651
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:49,160
I remember Kelly and I got together
and it was like a full therapy session.
1652
01:25:51,060 --> 01:25:55,733
We just talked about
memories and good times and
1653
01:25:55,734 --> 01:26:00,740
it was so refreshing to
be able to just be friends.
1654
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:06,500
My father was super abusive.
1655
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:09,080
That was the reason I
went to rehab, 100%.
1656
01:26:09,660 --> 01:26:11,863
A lot of people went
the other way but Kelly
1657
01:26:11,864 --> 01:26:14,541
stayed there for 30 days
just to hang out with me.
1658
01:26:16,100 --> 01:26:19,400
Kelly worked on all his stuff
before I went through mine.
1659
01:26:19,900 --> 01:26:23,200
So, when I went through
mine, he took care of me.
1660
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:28,400
We would have these talks for hours
at night about, you know, life, fathers,
1661
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:30,060
why, why am I feeling this?
1662
01:26:30,420 --> 01:26:34,800
Kelly taught me hanging on to
animosity is only ruining my life.
1663
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:35,920
It's not ruining his life.
1664
01:26:37,300 --> 01:26:40,860
So, I made amends with my dad
and I stopped doing drugs all at once.
1665
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:48,340
Every situation in your life you have
your pride and ego or you have love.
1666
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:50,680
If you choose this, it's
always gonna be bad and
1667
01:26:50,681 --> 01:26:53,021
if you choose this, it's
always gonna be good.
1668
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:58,975
I learned all that from my
smart-ass fucking Slater friend
1669
01:26:58,976 --> 01:27:01,880
and I couldn't, I couldn't,
I couldn't think of enough.
1670
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:07,040
Everyone in the world is
fighting the same battle.
1671
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:12,861
People are all suffering from a lack of
connecting with love with people around us.
1672
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:18,300
Personally, I had to wake up to myself and
see that who I thought I was maybe wasn't
1673
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:19,480
all I was cracked up to be.
1674
01:27:21,940 --> 01:27:25,900
Kelly kinda did lose the plot a little bit
but he came back in the biggest way ever.
1675
01:27:27,060 --> 01:27:31,400
It's pretty neat to see our clique how
we bring people back from the dead.
1676
01:27:33,900 --> 01:27:37,540
When I was working for the biotech
company, it was just tearing me up inside.
1677
01:27:39,140 --> 01:27:42,620
I definitely fit a wetsuit vibe
more than a suit-suit vibe.
1678
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:46,288
And I was really lucky
that Benji, Kelly, Rob
1679
01:27:46,289 --> 01:27:49,241
and Ross helped me
get all my sponsors back.
1680
01:27:49,780 --> 01:27:53,060
They made all the calls behind the
scenes that I only heard about afterwards.
1681
01:27:53,380 --> 01:27:54,100
Hey, you know what?
1682
01:27:54,260 --> 01:27:56,040
Like, someone's gonna call me.
1683
01:27:56,060 --> 01:27:56,560
That's pretty heavy.
1684
01:27:56,660 --> 01:27:58,580
You got some pretty
heavy friends in high places.
1685
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:00,360
I love Kalani.
1686
01:28:00,580 --> 01:28:00,940
Yeah.
1687
01:28:01,180 --> 01:28:03,140
So I might have had a
conversation here and there.
1688
01:28:04,540 --> 01:28:05,160
I did.
1689
01:28:05,260 --> 01:28:06,496
I helped him a little
bit get in the door.
1690
01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:08,920
I mean, this Kalani Rob,
he's way better than me.
1691
01:28:09,260 --> 01:28:11,640
And I remember going, you
should have the paycheck, not me.
1692
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:12,800
This is ridiculous.
1693
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:17,880
I made a phone call and I
just said, let's sponsor Kalani.
1694
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:21,680
He's just too talented
to be behind a desk.
1695
01:28:28,060 --> 01:28:34,480
As a kid, whatever I dreamed
to be, I've so outdone that.
1696
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:37,160
And the only reason
truly why I'm still here
1697
01:28:37,161 --> 01:28:39,901
doing anything is because
of my friends, for sure.
1698
01:28:40,820 --> 01:28:42,340
I wouldn't be here without them.
1699
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:50,500
If you guys should have turned out
bad, considering the upbringing they had,
1700
01:28:50,501 --> 01:28:55,900
but the group and having that support
around, guys saying, hey, don't do that
1701
01:28:55,901 --> 01:28:59,520
shit, kind of slapped some guys around
that could have gone the wrong way.
1702
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:02,720
I mean, I was no exception.
1703
01:29:07,370 --> 01:29:09,230
I was on the world
tour for 20 years.
1704
01:29:10,570 --> 01:29:15,830
And I could not get over
that hump of, I didn't win.
1705
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:24,380
Taylor took himself so serious.
1706
01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:29,720
When he would not win, world titles,
just to watch how it was eaten away at the
1707
01:29:29,721 --> 01:29:33,500
guy, I couldn't be around him
because I'm so opposite of Taylor.
1708
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:37,280
And then one day,
he finally just let it go.
1709
01:29:38,460 --> 01:29:39,820
I'm never gonna
win a world title.
1710
01:29:40,460 --> 01:29:41,460
I'm done.
1711
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:43,100
And then he can actually live.
1712
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:48,700
My friends helped me realize
surfing doesn't define me as a person.
1713
01:29:51,100 --> 01:29:53,060
There's what you do and
then there's who you are.
1714
01:29:53,140 --> 01:29:55,540
And that's the difference
that I didn't know back then.
1715
01:29:57,360 --> 01:29:59,700
I got a little bit of bingy
blood injected in me.
1716
01:30:00,900 --> 01:30:03,420
And I got more happy
just being who I am.
1717
01:30:12,410 --> 01:30:14,650
It's an emotional
rollercoaster, this career.
1718
01:30:14,970 --> 01:30:16,130
You lose more than you win.
1719
01:30:18,150 --> 01:30:20,090
But it's all about the
state of mind you're in.
1720
01:30:22,310 --> 01:30:24,430
Because I've seen guys
win contests and not enjoy it.
1721
01:30:24,450 --> 01:30:26,450
And I've seen guys get
third and wear a static.
1722
01:30:26,650 --> 01:30:27,650
So who won?
1723
01:30:28,870 --> 01:30:29,630
Who's the most fun?
1724
01:30:29,631 --> 01:30:31,231
To me, it's the one
having the most fun.
1725
01:30:32,610 --> 01:30:34,110
And that's what I
loved about Todd.
1726
01:30:36,270 --> 01:30:37,450
It was about surfing.
1727
01:30:37,650 --> 01:30:39,230
For the pure love of surfing.
1728
01:30:43,230 --> 01:30:47,970
People say that Taylor and I paved
the way for the professional free surfer.
1729
01:30:48,350 --> 01:30:52,410
But honestly to me, Todd
was the original free surfer.
1730
01:30:59,090 --> 01:31:02,358
When I look back at it
now, each one of us has
1731
01:31:02,359 --> 01:31:06,231
kind of taken a part
of Todd and his legacy.
1732
01:31:16,620 --> 01:31:19,840
With Shane becoming the
best big wave surfer in the world.
1733
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:25,100
Kelly reconnecting the whole
group, being that catalyst.
1734
01:31:25,340 --> 01:31:26,620
It brought us all back together.
1735
01:31:28,020 --> 01:31:29,020
Christmas is 14.
1736
01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:31,520
I was like, I'd love to do
something for all my friends.
1737
01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:34,924
I just sent this message
out and I just said, even
1738
01:31:35,024 --> 01:31:37,340
though we don't see each
other, I love all you fuckers.
1739
01:31:38,220 --> 01:31:41,320
Ironically, Kelly's always been the
one that was crawling into his own shell.
1740
01:31:41,480 --> 01:31:45,600
But he was the one that created the
text thread that's kind of grown to this
1741
01:31:45,601 --> 01:31:48,240
wonderful thing where
we all keep in touch daily.
1742
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:52,640
It really shows how much we
crave to connect with each other.
1743
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:55,900
So one day, I texted everybody.
1744
01:31:56,180 --> 01:31:58,720
I said, let's get a
momentum reunion together.
1745
01:31:59,920 --> 01:32:03,460
That was the first time we
all got together in so long.
1746
01:32:03,900 --> 01:32:07,840
It was just like, we never left.
1747
01:32:08,140 --> 01:32:08,740
Oh, yeah!
1748
01:32:08,940 --> 01:32:09,940
Bring it!
1749
01:32:12,590 --> 01:32:14,860
Now that the competition's
been taken out of our
1750
01:32:14,861 --> 01:32:17,790
friendship, it brought us
back to being kids again.
1751
01:32:18,770 --> 01:32:21,490
It was like being
there 25 years ago.
1752
01:32:24,030 --> 01:32:27,030
And I don't care if we have the same
blood running through our veins or not.
1753
01:32:27,770 --> 01:32:29,810
To me, friendship
is thicker than blood.
1754
01:32:32,130 --> 01:32:36,130
It's the closeness that makes
you connected to another spirit.
1755
01:32:39,390 --> 01:32:42,910
As a whole, I look at my
life, I've been given so much.
1756
01:32:43,670 --> 01:32:47,156
And thankfully, I sought
out people I wanted
1757
01:32:47,157 --> 01:32:50,991
to be around who were
better people than I was.
1758
01:32:51,070 --> 01:32:55,190
And those people have rubbed off on me
in a lot of ways and still do, every day.
1759
01:32:56,170 --> 01:32:58,346
A lot of us have been friends
since we were 12 years old.
1760
01:32:58,370 --> 01:33:04,290
So I can say my deepest, darkest, whatever,
and those guys don't even bat an eye.
1761
01:33:04,550 --> 01:33:05,950
It's just, those are my friends.
1762
01:33:08,490 --> 01:33:10,130
The reunion was insane.
1763
01:33:10,290 --> 01:33:11,090
We had so much fun.
1764
01:33:11,091 --> 01:33:15,390
Teasing each other, laughing,
and surfing is just a bonus.
1765
01:33:15,730 --> 01:33:20,470
I'm going I'm going I'm going
1766
01:33:25,870 --> 01:33:30,730
I'm going I'm going Move my system Move I
No matter who you listen to Let it do what
1767
01:33:30,731 --> 01:33:37,550
it meant We sure do
love this life If I was Now
1768
01:34:20,630 --> 01:34:25,780
There's no combination of words I could
put on the back of a postcard No song that
1769
01:34:25,781 --> 01:34:31,800
I could sing But I can try for your heart
Our dreams And they are made out of real
1770
01:34:31,801 --> 01:34:38,780
things Like a jukebox And photographs With
sepia tone Lovin' Love is the answer At
1771
01:34:38,781 --> 01:34:43,380
least for most Of the questions In my
heart Like, Why are we here And where do
1772
01:34:43,381 --> 01:34:48,440
We go And how come We're so hard And it's
not always easy And sometimes life Can be
1773
01:34:48,441 --> 01:34:55,660
deceiving I'll tell you one thing It's
always better When we're together It's
1774
01:34:55,661 --> 01:35:01,700
always better When we're together Yeah,
we look at them stars And we're together
1775
01:35:01,701 --> 01:35:06,584
Yeah, Well, it's always
better when we're together,
1776
01:35:06,585 --> 01:35:10,181
yeah, it's always better
when we're together.
1777
01:35:12,710 --> 01:35:20,710
100% people pick it up
there, guys, there, there.
1778
01:35:26,410 --> 01:35:30,450
And all of these moments just might
find their way into my dreams tonight.
1779
01:35:31,090 --> 01:35:36,450
But I know that they'll be gone when the
morning light sings or brings new things.
1780
01:35:36,451 --> 01:35:43,430
For tomorrow night you see that they'll
be gone too, too many things I have to do.
1781
01:35:43,510 --> 01:35:47,310
But if all of these dreams might find
their way into my day-to-day scene,
1782
01:35:47,510 --> 01:35:51,490
I'd be under the impression I
was somewhere in between.
1783
01:35:51,670 --> 01:35:55,890
With only two, just me and you,
not so many things we got to do.
1784
01:35:56,090 --> 01:36:00,650
But places we got to be will
sit beneath the mango tree now.
1785
01:36:01,570 --> 01:36:04,370
Yeah, it's always better
when we're together.
1786
01:36:04,610 --> 01:36:05,990
I'll tell you one thing.
1787
01:36:05,991 --> 01:36:06,430
It's always better
when we're together.
1788
01:36:06,450 --> 01:36:08,010
It's always better
when we're together.
1789
01:36:09,830 --> 01:36:11,930
It's always better
when we're together.
1790
01:36:11,931 --> 01:36:15,416
After Todd died, Kelly
said to me, you realize now
1791
01:36:15,417 --> 01:36:17,951
the only person you could
ever really date is Pat.
1792
01:36:19,230 --> 01:36:23,410
And I remember thinking, that's so
weird, he's like my brother, you know, Pat.
1793
01:36:23,650 --> 01:36:25,210
It's always better
when we're together.
1794
01:36:26,330 --> 01:36:28,089
Janet and I were such
close friends, you know,
1795
01:36:28,090 --> 01:36:29,950
it's like one of those
romantic comedies.
1796
01:36:30,010 --> 01:36:32,166
And you're like, why doesn't
this guy just kiss the chick?
1797
01:36:32,190 --> 01:36:35,090
We were living together as roommates
and I came home one night... Yeah.
1798
01:36:35,091 --> 01:36:36,950
And he told me how he felt.
1799
01:36:37,290 --> 01:36:40,630
Hey Janet, you know, we've
been friends for a long time.
1800
01:36:42,790 --> 01:36:45,630
Yeah, you know, like
what do you think?
1801
01:36:46,420 --> 01:36:48,990
Whoa, I didn't see that coming.
1802
01:36:49,730 --> 01:36:52,910
At first it was a little
weird, but it just felt right.
1803
01:36:55,130 --> 01:37:00,830
The only person Todd would have felt
comfortable with me being with is Pat.
1804
01:37:01,070 --> 01:37:04,090
Sometimes I think he was
up there kind of orchestrating.
1805
01:37:05,210 --> 01:37:07,610
Probably telling the guys to
threaten the other guys away.
1806
01:37:12,910 --> 01:37:15,544
Hearing some of the
speeches at our wedding,
1807
01:37:15,556 --> 01:37:17,791
I kind of started
to put it together.
1808
01:37:18,070 --> 01:37:19,330
I was like, okay.
1809
01:37:21,310 --> 01:37:22,666
They all knew what
they were doing.
1810
01:37:22,690 --> 01:37:25,790
It was just so perfect that
her and Pat got together.
1811
01:37:25,990 --> 01:37:27,590
I mean, I got to pinch
myself sometimes.
1812
01:37:27,690 --> 01:37:29,830
That's like Todd's
spirit coming through.
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