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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,920 It didn't seem like we were making an impact at the time. 2 00:00:29,140 --> 00:00:32,740 We were just a bunch of kids living the dream and traveling around the world. 3 00:00:38,820 --> 00:00:44,020 It was our bond as a family that enabled us to become as successful as we did. 4 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,725 We were all feeding off each other, pushing 5 00:00:51,726 --> 00:00:55,501 each other beyond just going out and having fun. 6 00:00:56,540 --> 00:00:58,820 The competitive thing was a real cut-throat business. 7 00:00:58,900 --> 00:01:00,400 We were competing at every level. 8 00:01:00,460 --> 00:01:02,520 The surf industry pit us against each other. 9 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,336 All's fair in love and war, and we are at war. 10 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:05,736 I had to be a bit of an asshole to win. 11 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:06,400 He was being a dick. 12 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:07,200 Fuck him. 13 00:01:07,580 --> 00:01:10,880 If I can just do this thing better than everybody, then I win. 14 00:01:15,100 --> 00:01:22,100 Friendships, relationships, happiness... is winning worth giving up those things? 15 00:01:34,770 --> 00:01:37,670 I was born in Cocoa Beach, Florida in 1972. 16 00:01:39,570 --> 00:01:42,570 My dad owned a bait and tackle shop, so we just grew up fishing and surfing. 17 00:01:48,060 --> 00:01:51,940 I like to build forts and go camp on the islands, clamming and shrimping. 18 00:01:52,180 --> 00:01:57,520 I was pretty tough as a kid. 19 00:01:57,660 --> 00:02:00,940 I remember we were riding our bikes one time down the street, and for some reason 20 00:02:00,941 --> 00:02:03,940 I turned really sharp and I just ate it and just hit the ground super hard. 21 00:02:04,100 --> 00:02:06,496 And the people stopped their car and they're like, are you okay? 22 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:07,980 And my brother goes, he's the toughest kid on the boat. 23 00:02:07,981 --> 00:02:09,330 He's on the block or something like that, you 24 00:02:09,354 --> 00:02:11,350 know, and I was like, yeah, I'm fine, you know. 25 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,440 When I was like eight years old, a lot changed for me. 26 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,300 That was when my mom was trying to kick my dad out. 27 00:02:25,640 --> 00:02:28,260 My mom just couldn't handle the drinking and stuff, and 28 00:02:28,261 --> 00:02:30,980 they would have these crazy screaming fights in the house. 29 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:35,880 I feel like I changed as a person. 30 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,680 I went from fighting and being aggressive as my way to kind of get out my feelings, 31 00:02:44,100 --> 00:02:46,400 to real like overly sensitive to everything. 32 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:49,300 It was really insecure, you know. 33 00:02:58,510 --> 00:03:00,310 I grew up in Oxnard Shores. 34 00:03:02,310 --> 00:03:03,830 It was a rough Hispanic town. 35 00:03:07,180 --> 00:03:10,461 My dad was a talented musician, and he made it to 36 00:03:10,462 --> 00:03:12,860 a point where he was a big fish in a small pond. 37 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:14,740 He was a big fish in a small pond. 38 00:03:14,741 --> 00:03:16,980 But then he got sucked into the drug scene. 39 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,879 He and my stepmom, they would have knockout, 40 00:03:21,891 --> 00:03:24,380 dragout fights, wake up with black eyes. 41 00:03:24,640 --> 00:03:28,040 I was just like, God, Dad, you know, what are you doing? 42 00:03:30,340 --> 00:03:32,615 I didn't want to be like my dad, a talented 43 00:03:32,616 --> 00:03:35,281 guy that just couldn't get out of his hometown. 44 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,960 And I didn't want to be as strict as my mom. 45 00:03:40,540 --> 00:03:43,300 I needed to get out from under my parents' thumb. 46 00:03:50,550 --> 00:03:52,330 I was born and raised in Hawaii. 47 00:03:52,990 --> 00:03:54,250 I'm from Kona. 48 00:03:56,530 --> 00:03:59,110 Growing up, my parents ran a restaurant. 49 00:04:00,370 --> 00:04:02,070 My dad was a pretty gnarly alcoholic. 50 00:04:02,330 --> 00:04:03,330 He was drunk every day. 51 00:04:05,050 --> 00:04:07,250 One day, they got in a car wreck and lost his arm. 52 00:04:08,970 --> 00:04:11,270 My parents split up when I was like 12 years old. 53 00:04:11,970 --> 00:04:13,450 My dad wasn't in the picture anymore. 54 00:04:14,070 --> 00:04:15,150 Times got really hard. 55 00:04:16,870 --> 00:04:18,090 I felt a little bit lost. 56 00:04:19,110 --> 00:04:19,510 I didn't know what to do. 57 00:04:19,690 --> 00:04:19,710 I didn't know what to do. 58 00:04:19,850 --> 00:04:23,070 But following my dad's footsteps was never an option for me. 59 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,240 I was born in Los Angeles, California. 60 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,260 My father was a pro football player. 61 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:35,660 He was very macho. 62 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:37,780 Big intimidating guy with a beard. 63 00:04:39,340 --> 00:04:41,300 It was a really tough love with my father. 64 00:04:42,100 --> 00:04:44,620 He would always grab us and throw us around. 65 00:04:44,820 --> 00:04:48,440 All his emotions came with physical stuff. 66 00:04:49,500 --> 00:04:51,000 He beat up my brother really bad. 67 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,980 It was a big deal. 68 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,680 Our lives are still hard. 69 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,820 I was born in Kailua, east side of Oahu. 70 00:05:09,660 --> 00:05:15,560 My mother would probably get arrested for child abuse for the shit that she did. 71 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,620 I would get dropped off at like 5 a.m. 72 00:05:19,621 --> 00:05:22,800 at Waikiki with $2 in my pocket if I was lucky. 73 00:05:23,340 --> 00:05:26,100 And then I would get picked up at 6 or 7 o 'clock at night. 74 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,740 What are you going to eat with $2 during the day? 75 00:05:29,741 --> 00:05:31,240 Probably not a fucking whole lot. 76 00:05:31,740 --> 00:05:36,000 There was this pizza place and there would be a display of a pizza. 77 00:05:36,060 --> 00:05:36,660 Hey, come eat here. 78 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:37,840 We would steal that pizza. 79 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,400 I was a ghetto ass kid, man. 80 00:05:40,500 --> 00:05:41,540 As ghetto as it gets. 81 00:05:42,220 --> 00:05:46,200 I had nothing else to do than a fight and steal some food and surf. 82 00:05:57,260 --> 00:05:58,260 What is surfing? 83 00:06:00,540 --> 00:06:03,480 You know, things are chaotic, go out in the ocean. 84 00:06:04,280 --> 00:06:06,020 Which is funny because the ocean is chaotic. 85 00:06:06,340 --> 00:06:07,700 But I felt calm out there. 86 00:06:11,900 --> 00:06:14,360 I was like, all these problems were happening in my life. 87 00:06:14,980 --> 00:06:17,760 And the only time I felt really good was when I was surfing. 88 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,280 That's when I had a real sense of purpose. 89 00:06:23,700 --> 00:06:24,700 This is who I am. 90 00:06:25,740 --> 00:06:26,900 I was that surfer kid. 91 00:06:26,980 --> 00:06:28,460 I wasn't that bummed out kid at home. 92 00:06:38,590 --> 00:06:42,130 I grew up in Chicago in a very regimented schedule. 93 00:06:43,010 --> 00:06:47,630 So that independence and freedom to be able to shed your parents. 94 00:06:48,050 --> 00:06:48,890 And it just picked me up. 95 00:06:48,891 --> 00:06:49,930 To be you in the ocean. 96 00:06:50,490 --> 00:06:52,570 That's what I just completely fell in love with. 97 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,400 For me, surfing was total freedom. 98 00:07:00,740 --> 00:07:01,740 Hello, dear. 99 00:07:02,140 --> 00:07:02,620 Hello. 100 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:03,840 Getting ready to go surfing? 101 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:04,360 Yeah. 102 00:07:04,620 --> 00:07:05,620 Good, good, good. 103 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:11,200 I just remember standing up for the first time. 104 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,740 All of these elements just like rushing by you. 105 00:07:16,860 --> 00:07:18,700 You're away from everything all of a sudden. 106 00:07:18,740 --> 00:07:19,300 You're above it. 107 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:20,780 And you're gliding. 108 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,040 And it was just, I don't know. 109 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:23,560 I was sold. 110 00:07:28,980 --> 00:07:32,093 Growing up on the North Shore, one of my 111 00:07:32,094 --> 00:07:35,221 first memories of surfing was late in the day. 112 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,640 So the sun was shining down the waves. 113 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,374 And I remember standing up and having that 114 00:07:40,375 --> 00:07:44,321 perfect image of the sun glistening on the barrel. 115 00:07:45,180 --> 00:07:47,420 I remember feeling entranced. 116 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,880 Your first barrel, you're going to remember it forever. 117 00:07:53,300 --> 00:07:54,500 Surfing was my savior. 118 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:56,120 For me. 119 00:07:56,121 --> 00:07:57,480 All my challenges at home. 120 00:07:57,580 --> 00:07:58,720 And parents splitting up. 121 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,600 I channeled all that to my surfing. 122 00:08:02,300 --> 00:08:06,100 I could go do something on my own that no one else could tell me how to do. 123 00:08:06,620 --> 00:08:08,300 And I completely understood it. 124 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:17,980 Every day was something new. 125 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:19,880 Learning something new on the wave. 126 00:08:21,420 --> 00:08:22,580 And it made me hungry. 127 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:28,461 Surfing comes first and that's my life and, you know, they've got to respect that. 128 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:29,560 Vertical one more time. 129 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:30,720 This kid is just working. 130 00:08:30,721 --> 00:08:33,160 Unbelievable coordination on a surfboard. 131 00:08:33,260 --> 00:08:34,900 That is as good as you'd guess. 132 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:35,720 It doesn't get any better. 133 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:36,760 That's traffic surfing. 134 00:08:36,860 --> 00:08:37,860 Kelly Slater. 135 00:08:40,020 --> 00:08:43,300 Kelly Slater, one of the bright superstars of the future. 136 00:08:43,380 --> 00:08:44,540 There's no question about it. 137 00:08:45,620 --> 00:08:48,220 The first time I met Kelly was at the U.S. 138 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:49,240 Championships. 139 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,800 Kelly was 13 and I was 12. 140 00:08:52,580 --> 00:08:53,300 Square tail. 141 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:54,600 No wing. 142 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:56,600 Works killer. 143 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:58,660 Kelly's already kind of like a superhero. 144 00:08:58,661 --> 00:09:00,800 Like Michael Jordan at that point. 145 00:09:00,940 --> 00:09:02,680 You know, everyone's just like, well, Kelly. 146 00:09:04,020 --> 00:09:06,960 And my dad's like, hey, let's go take a photo with him. 147 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:07,560 I'm like, no, no, no. 148 00:09:07,700 --> 00:09:08,700 He's like, hey, Kelly. 149 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:09,920 And I'm like, ugh. 150 00:09:10,500 --> 00:09:12,880 That awkward moment when your parent embarrasses you. 151 00:09:14,560 --> 00:09:18,320 After that, Rob and I became good friends and we would see each other at contests. 152 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,240 And the winner, Kelly Slater. 153 00:09:22,580 --> 00:09:24,860 But back then, surfing was not a career path. 154 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,080 It was just something you enjoy doing. 155 00:09:31,510 --> 00:09:34,330 When I was a kid, my local break was a lot of hard characters. 156 00:09:34,890 --> 00:09:36,710 Drinking beers and smoking weed on the beach. 157 00:09:39,090 --> 00:09:41,210 I started competing in the little local contests. 158 00:09:41,430 --> 00:09:43,230 There would be like three kids in my division. 159 00:09:43,990 --> 00:09:44,915 And talking to those guys, they were like, 160 00:09:44,916 --> 00:09:47,211 oh yeah, we're all going to be pro surfers. 161 00:09:47,290 --> 00:09:47,990 And I was like, what? 162 00:09:48,030 --> 00:09:48,630 What are you talking about? 163 00:09:48,710 --> 00:09:50,430 They're like, yeah, that's what we're doing. 164 00:09:50,530 --> 00:09:52,370 And I didn't know that was an option, you know. 165 00:09:54,730 --> 00:09:57,370 I remember hanging out with a friend looking at a surfer magazine. 166 00:09:58,110 --> 00:09:59,210 And I said, I'm going to do that. 167 00:09:59,211 --> 00:10:00,850 That's going to be my job. 168 00:10:01,010 --> 00:10:02,170 And he was like, yeah, right. 169 00:10:02,310 --> 00:10:03,310 And I just, no. 170 00:10:04,430 --> 00:10:05,910 I'm going to be a pro surfer someday. 171 00:10:06,425 --> 00:10:09,290 And the blueprint for me was Tom Curran. 172 00:10:27,210 --> 00:10:28,930 I started surfing in 1985. 173 00:10:29,190 --> 00:10:33,330 And Tom Curran won the world title that year. 174 00:10:36,530 --> 00:10:38,924 He was the first American to win the world title 175 00:10:38,925 --> 00:10:42,031 since the inception of professional surfing. 176 00:10:42,290 --> 00:10:44,510 It had been dominated by Australians. 177 00:10:45,990 --> 00:10:49,950 If you ask anyone in our generation, Tom Curran was our inspiration. 178 00:10:50,910 --> 00:10:52,670 He showed us what was possible. 179 00:10:56,750 --> 00:11:01,290 As a kid, I did pretty well in a few contests. 180 00:11:01,450 --> 00:11:05,930 And by the time I was 18, I was offered my first sponsorship deal. 181 00:11:06,290 --> 00:11:11,010 Another young surfer rapidly rising through the ranks is California's Taylor Knox. 182 00:11:11,450 --> 00:11:14,130 $1,000 for the $1,000 picture. 183 00:11:14,370 --> 00:11:14,490 Oh, man. 184 00:11:15,170 --> 00:11:16,290 I don't know how this sells. 185 00:11:16,810 --> 00:11:19,186 After finishing fourth at the world amateur 186 00:11:19,187 --> 00:11:21,130 titles, I got the contract I was looking for. 187 00:11:21,210 --> 00:11:23,070 I think I ended up with $1,200 a month. 188 00:11:23,170 --> 00:11:24,370 And that was a big deal. 189 00:11:24,970 --> 00:11:26,510 Wow, look at that. 190 00:11:26,670 --> 00:11:27,310 Slightest breath. 191 00:11:27,530 --> 00:11:29,607 After a tremendous amateur career, Blazer has 192 00:11:29,608 --> 00:11:31,951 dedicated himself to the world of professional surfing. 193 00:11:31,990 --> 00:11:34,110 He signed the biggest sponsorship deal ever. 194 00:11:34,370 --> 00:11:38,010 It was a big jump for me because I get nervous in front of a big crowd. 195 00:11:38,210 --> 00:11:40,830 I was getting $75,000 a year at 18 years old. 196 00:11:40,970 --> 00:11:44,870 Coming from not having anything when I was a kid to getting paid anything, 197 00:11:44,871 --> 00:11:49,670 to go surfing and be able to, you know, find my own lunch was a bonus, you know. 198 00:11:49,890 --> 00:11:51,786 We'll rob you first, but we must give you my minimum. 199 00:11:51,810 --> 00:11:52,310 Yeah, definitely. 200 00:11:52,470 --> 00:11:53,830 It gives me a lot more confidence. 201 00:11:54,150 --> 00:11:55,910 You know, moving up in the ratings. 202 00:11:55,911 --> 00:11:59,190 I was kind of scared about the whole concept of being a pro surfer. 203 00:11:59,670 --> 00:12:02,470 I was just a little kid going surfing every day. 204 00:12:03,270 --> 00:12:05,830 I was just out there for the pure enjoyment of it. 205 00:12:05,930 --> 00:12:08,330 Like, there was no stress. 206 00:12:08,850 --> 00:12:14,470 And now, you put a piece of paper in front of someone with money attached to it, 207 00:12:14,471 --> 00:12:17,170 and expectations and obligations, and everything changes. 208 00:12:17,530 --> 00:12:20,110 I saw it as a huge amount of pressure, for sure. 209 00:12:20,450 --> 00:12:24,270 But I also thought, like, this is my duty to go and earn these dollars. 210 00:12:24,530 --> 00:12:25,990 It was based on that world title. 211 00:12:26,170 --> 00:12:27,770 They wanted you to win that world title. 212 00:12:27,950 --> 00:12:30,830 I wanted to win so badly because I never went to college. 213 00:12:31,010 --> 00:12:32,190 I had a zero backup plan. 214 00:12:32,710 --> 00:12:36,130 I was either going to make it on the world tour, or I fail. 215 00:12:36,590 --> 00:12:37,590 And that was it. 216 00:12:38,130 --> 00:12:42,410 The end goal was always to go on the world tour and be a world champ. 217 00:12:42,950 --> 00:12:44,390 That was the pinnacle of the sport. 218 00:12:44,470 --> 00:12:45,910 Win a world championship. 219 00:12:46,730 --> 00:12:49,450 But at the same time, you got to go to Hawaii. 220 00:12:49,570 --> 00:12:50,730 You got to do good in Hawaii. 221 00:12:59,680 --> 00:13:01,140 Back then, I was like, Hawaii? 222 00:13:01,900 --> 00:13:02,940 Scared the shit out of me. 223 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,426 Proving that you were going to be able to surf in 224 00:13:09,427 --> 00:13:12,441 Hawaii, that was a really big part of the deal. 225 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,856 You want to make a name for yourself, you know, you go to Pipeline. 226 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,460 You can make a career off just surfing one wave. 227 00:13:20,980 --> 00:13:22,980 It's so powerful and so beautiful. 228 00:13:23,580 --> 00:13:25,820 Palm trees swaying, white sand beach. 229 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:27,380 It's an amazing arena. 230 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,460 But when it's in a bad mood, it pulverizes you. 231 00:13:38,500 --> 00:13:42,560 It picks you up and just slams you down, and that reef is so hard. 232 00:13:43,460 --> 00:13:45,420 It feels like you're hitting a sharp sidewalk. 233 00:13:48,260 --> 00:13:51,240 Pipeline is definitely the most dangerous spot on Earth. 234 00:13:51,460 --> 00:13:52,460 Yeah! 235 00:13:52,560 --> 00:13:53,120 Yeah! 236 00:13:53,121 --> 00:13:55,960 I've seen a lot of guys die there. 237 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:57,800 That's what makes it such a proving ground. 238 00:13:58,560 --> 00:14:02,620 It's prestigious just to do good in the trials, but the real reward is to be able 239 00:14:02,621 --> 00:14:04,661 to go and surf against the world's best at Pipeline. 240 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:09,180 If you're on the North Shore and Pipeline was good and you weren't out there and you 241 00:14:09,181 --> 00:14:11,520 were some hot kid, everybody knew about it. 242 00:14:11,860 --> 00:14:14,240 Everybody saw you as someone who was avoiding Pipeline. 243 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,217 Coming from Florida, being a small wave guy, there 244 00:14:20,218 --> 00:14:22,941 was a lot of eyes on whether I could surf in Hawaii. 245 00:14:24,540 --> 00:14:28,062 You can be the king of your beach, wherever that is, but 246 00:14:28,063 --> 00:14:30,641 if you can't surf well in Hawaii, it doesn't mean anything. 247 00:14:30,940 --> 00:14:33,580 I grew up surfing the Great Lakes on a giant surfboard. 248 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,820 The first couple times I went to Hawaii, I hated it. 249 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,160 You know, it's a big fish, small pond. 250 00:14:40,260 --> 00:14:41,420 It's a small fish, big pond. 251 00:14:42,220 --> 00:14:46,320 And at 5'6", 130 pounds, I ain't getting anything. 252 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,080 The waves are bigger, they're stronger, they move faster. 253 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:51,360 It's so dangerous. 254 00:14:51,361 --> 00:14:54,020 It looks like everyone should go to the hospital. 255 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:55,520 Like, no way. 256 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,480 I'm on the paddle out of Pipeline, like, no chance. 257 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,640 And then you had some super heavy locals. 258 00:15:04,460 --> 00:15:11,080 When you're 135 pounds, skinny, cowly, the intimidation factor is super high. 259 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:16,420 I was pretty terrified of Derrick Ho and Dane Kealoha, Johnny Boy Gomes, 260 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:17,200 Sandy Garcia. 261 00:15:17,500 --> 00:15:19,940 These were the guys who could put you in your place real fast. 262 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:20,780 These were the guys who could put you in your place real fast. 263 00:15:20,781 --> 00:15:23,660 Like, Brazil is to soccer, Hawaii is to surfing. 264 00:15:23,820 --> 00:15:25,200 So it's territorial. 265 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:27,780 You can't just come into Hawaii. 266 00:15:27,980 --> 00:15:30,300 That's the hardest place on Earth to fucking infiltrate. 267 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:31,860 Hawaii is like, respect? 268 00:15:33,010 --> 00:15:33,740 Door is wide open. 269 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,000 No respect? 270 00:15:35,300 --> 00:15:37,200 Door is closed and your ass is kicked. 271 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:38,480 Oh, my God! 272 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:39,560 Someone's so big! 273 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:45,361 Some of these tourists that show up, they just seem to leave their brains at home. 274 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:50,390 If I see someone acting like a privileged prick, if I feel 275 00:15:50,391 --> 00:15:54,540 like somebody needs a good beating, I'm down to give it. 276 00:15:57,460 --> 00:16:03,240 Either you can go home while you still can walk, or we can beat the shit out of you 277 00:16:03,780 --> 00:16:04,960 and send you home anyway. 278 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:14,080 The land and the culture was stolen from Hawaiians not that long ago. 279 00:16:15,860 --> 00:16:18,739 Queen Liliuokalani was held up in her palace 280 00:16:18,751 --> 00:16:21,321 at gunpoint and forced to hand it over. 281 00:16:23,700 --> 00:16:25,280 I'm literally from the North Shore. 282 00:16:25,380 --> 00:16:26,460 This is where I was raised. 283 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,760 Being a white person in Hawaii, you're the minority. 284 00:16:30,540 --> 00:16:31,740 And you can feel it. 285 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:32,760 It's tangible. 286 00:16:32,860 --> 00:16:35,240 It's like a reversal from almost anywhere else. 287 00:16:37,540 --> 00:16:39,140 We were all over there by ourselves. 288 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,860 I don't remember anyone's parents being over there. 289 00:16:42,860 --> 00:16:44,140 People were getting beat up. 290 00:16:44,540 --> 00:16:45,940 It's kind of like the Wild West. 291 00:16:46,740 --> 00:16:48,040 You're on your own, kid. 292 00:16:49,660 --> 00:16:51,740 I was from the Big Island where the waves were small. 293 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,940 And here I am on the North Shore of Oahu. 294 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,600 Scary locals and the waves are gnarly and I'm terrified. 295 00:17:07,890 --> 00:17:10,701 And then in the winter of ADP, Benji and his 296 00:17:10,702 --> 00:17:13,191 mom rented a house right there at Pipeline. 297 00:17:14,010 --> 00:17:16,010 And that was like the epicenter of the North Shore. 298 00:17:17,190 --> 00:17:19,330 So everyone was gravitating towards Benji's house. 299 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,240 My mom and dad split up. 300 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:30,220 She went to Hawaii on vacation and came back and said, Hey, boys, get in the car. 301 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:31,200 We're moving to Hawaii. 302 00:17:31,201 --> 00:17:33,001 And it happened to be the North Shore of Oahu. 303 00:17:34,860 --> 00:17:39,200 When we first got a hold of the Pipeline house, we didn't even know that Pipeline 304 00:17:39,201 --> 00:17:42,300 and Waimea Bay and Sunset Beach were down this way. 305 00:17:42,340 --> 00:17:43,840 I mean, this is how naive we were. 306 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,580 I was 12, living at Pipeline. 307 00:17:47,500 --> 00:17:49,400 Ross and Shane Dorian started hanging out there. 308 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:50,180 And I'm like, yeah, this is rad. 309 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:51,276 They're hanging out at my house. 310 00:17:51,300 --> 00:17:53,420 And then it became where all the boys started hanging. 311 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:54,940 No way, you guys. 312 00:17:55,140 --> 00:17:56,140 It's so rad. 313 00:17:58,220 --> 00:18:00,935 When Benji had his house there at Pipeline, 314 00:18:00,995 --> 00:18:02,720 he's like, ah, okay, you need a place to stay? 315 00:18:02,740 --> 00:18:03,740 You can stay at my house. 316 00:18:04,360 --> 00:18:08,020 I went from staying in some rat-infested crack den to Benji's house. 317 00:18:08,780 --> 00:18:12,020 Just hanging out there, watch Pipeline, jump on the trampoline. 318 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:14,280 Bodies just everywhere, sleeping. 319 00:18:14,980 --> 00:18:16,780 It was like a summer party. 320 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,760 We all knew each other from surfing different amateur events. 321 00:18:22,500 --> 00:18:26,700 But it wasn't until we all stayed at Benji's house that we became a posse. 322 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:29,080 What do you think about Rob? 323 00:18:29,081 --> 00:18:30,760 You know, he's got a real attitude, bro. 324 00:18:32,340 --> 00:18:34,920 It wasn't just this little core group from Hawaii anymore. 325 00:18:35,120 --> 00:18:37,980 All of a sudden, our group went from this big to this big to this big. 326 00:18:38,120 --> 00:18:39,300 It just snowballed. 327 00:18:43,360 --> 00:18:45,980 There were 80 surfboards left at the house every day. 328 00:18:46,100 --> 00:18:48,045 All the surfers were showing up, and there 329 00:18:48,046 --> 00:18:50,161 were 15 people at a time sleeping on the floor. 330 00:18:51,900 --> 00:18:54,220 Benji's mom was so welcoming to everyone. 331 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,060 She never asked for a dime. 332 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,056 Everyone eating all her food, leaving all their dirty shit everywhere. 333 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:00,520 Making the house a wreck. 334 00:19:00,900 --> 00:19:02,140 Loud, staying up late. 335 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,800 It was just like a free-for-all fun zone all day long. 336 00:19:05,260 --> 00:19:07,620 The sand was this thick in my living room. 337 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,428 And after a while, my mom just let go of the 338 00:19:10,508 --> 00:19:13,500 whole control thing and just said, I love it. 339 00:19:13,540 --> 00:19:14,540 I love it. 340 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,300 I'd always felt the more the merrier because I had nobody growing up. 341 00:19:18,380 --> 00:19:20,000 My dad had died and our house was empty. 342 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,700 So to me, we were just a family and these were my boys. 343 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,840 There were kids that were leaving their parents on the east coast of America, 344 00:19:27,841 --> 00:19:30,420 spending their holiday season with my family. 345 00:19:31,645 --> 00:19:33,236 I mean, what were their parents thinking? 346 00:19:33,260 --> 00:19:35,160 Like, our kids aren't home for Christmas. 347 00:19:35,580 --> 00:19:37,080 Every year for like a decade. 348 00:19:37,380 --> 00:19:39,996 Right about Christmas time, everybody goes home to see their parents. 349 00:19:40,020 --> 00:19:41,180 And there's more ways for me. 350 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,791 A lot of us come from broken homes, but over at 351 00:19:43,792 --> 00:19:46,081 Benji's house, you felt like you were with your family. 352 00:19:48,460 --> 00:19:51,700 Most of us went through some gnarly, hard times when we were young. 353 00:19:51,900 --> 00:19:55,408 So to go somewhere where there was a really positive, 354 00:19:55,409 --> 00:19:58,860 loving, accepting home, we just felt like it was safe there. 355 00:20:04,980 --> 00:20:09,400 One day, I met Rob surfing where we surf, at our little spot. 356 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,020 And he brought me into Benji's house. 357 00:20:17,580 --> 00:20:20,980 Without that group, I would have, carrying fucking tea, been in jail. 358 00:20:22,500 --> 00:20:24,960 That single-handedly changed my whole life. 359 00:20:29,580 --> 00:20:34,051 When Benji had his house at Pipeline, it would be ten of 360 00:20:34,052 --> 00:20:37,440 us on the deck watching the waves, boards in the racks. 361 00:20:37,900 --> 00:20:40,300 We knew we needed to get out there and surf. 362 00:20:40,780 --> 00:20:42,320 We just needed someone to push us. 363 00:20:45,220 --> 00:20:48,280 We'd all stand out on the deck, everyone squashing the waves, yourself, 364 00:20:48,700 --> 00:20:50,520 and here comes Todd. 365 00:20:53,620 --> 00:20:55,609 Todd Chester had walked through the yard, you know, 366 00:20:55,610 --> 00:20:57,140 and he wouldn't even ask if he could come over. 367 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:58,460 He was just such a gnarly dude. 368 00:20:58,461 --> 00:20:58,680 Here. 369 00:20:59,060 --> 00:21:00,200 Did you do anything yet? 370 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:01,040 Yeah. 371 00:21:01,100 --> 00:21:02,100 But not with me. 372 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:03,440 Yeah, he's not anything good. 373 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:04,240 Look at that floor. 374 00:21:04,580 --> 00:21:05,580 It's getting good. 375 00:21:05,980 --> 00:21:07,608 Todd Chester and Brock Little were already 376 00:21:07,609 --> 00:21:10,861 completely established pro surfers at the time. 377 00:21:11,090 --> 00:21:12,680 We looked up to those guys so much. 378 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:14,920 We wanted to be just like them. 379 00:21:16,380 --> 00:21:20,320 Brock was the first guy to pioneer surfing Himalayas and Waimea. 380 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:21,640 He was so fearless. 381 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:28,181 Behind him, slowly but surely, Todd Chester started surfing big waves as well. 382 00:21:34,110 --> 00:21:37,150 Brock was already starting to take off in his career. 383 00:21:38,270 --> 00:21:41,810 And when he would travel around the world, Todd hung out with us. 384 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:44,690 Todd Chester was a couple years older. 385 00:21:44,970 --> 00:21:47,330 He was the one that pushed all of us. 386 00:21:47,810 --> 00:21:48,830 And he was brutal. 387 00:21:52,150 --> 00:21:56,150 You come in after thinking, like, oh, man, I just got such a good wave. 388 00:21:56,510 --> 00:21:57,690 I wonder if Todd saw it. 389 00:22:00,110 --> 00:22:01,786 Todd didn't talk about any of the waves I got. 390 00:22:01,810 --> 00:22:03,590 He was like, why'd you paddle in? 391 00:22:04,570 --> 00:22:05,730 You know, like, okay. 392 00:22:05,850 --> 00:22:08,030 Well, um, because it's easier? 393 00:22:08,170 --> 00:22:09,170 No. 394 00:22:09,340 --> 00:22:10,090 Don't wuss out. 395 00:22:10,285 --> 00:22:11,285 Get through it. 396 00:22:11,890 --> 00:22:15,130 I remember watching Chester letting waves land on him. 397 00:22:15,270 --> 00:22:16,270 He's laughing. 398 00:22:16,930 --> 00:22:20,630 Almost to say, like, what's the big deal, Brom? 399 00:22:20,810 --> 00:22:23,490 And you just feel like looking for an out. 400 00:22:23,770 --> 00:22:25,230 Oh, my ankle's kind of sore. 401 00:22:26,290 --> 00:22:27,090 Shut up. 402 00:22:27,150 --> 00:22:27,790 Grab your board. 403 00:22:27,850 --> 00:22:28,850 Let's go. 404 00:22:29,270 --> 00:22:31,030 Todd was like a sensei to us. 405 00:22:31,150 --> 00:22:33,650 He was always one step ahead of what we were doing. 406 00:22:34,470 --> 00:22:36,099 He could see that you could do it, but you 407 00:22:36,100 --> 00:22:37,590 couldn't see yourself that you could do it. 408 00:22:37,690 --> 00:22:40,870 And he would say just some little things that would get under your skin, 409 00:22:41,070 --> 00:22:43,170 like, uh, you probably won't make it anyway. 410 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:44,830 And you'd be like, fuck that. 411 00:22:45,010 --> 00:22:46,010 I'll make it. 412 00:22:46,100 --> 00:22:48,530 Now, looking back on it, he knew what he was doing. 413 00:22:50,010 --> 00:22:52,078 It's like he knew how far to push your 414 00:22:52,090 --> 00:22:54,490 limits, dangerously close to knife or death. 415 00:22:55,290 --> 00:22:59,750 Todd Chester would surf any size, big wave, and he had a huge influence on all of us. 416 00:23:00,050 --> 00:23:02,314 Eventually, we were all feeding off each other, pushing 417 00:23:02,315 --> 00:23:04,591 each other in a friendly way, trying to outdo each other. 418 00:23:05,190 --> 00:23:06,790 We always used to say, oh, you won't go. 419 00:23:06,990 --> 00:23:10,270 Just that challenge, like, turn around on a big wave or a late drop and just go. 420 00:23:11,690 --> 00:23:15,030 If you heard you won't go in our crew, you're gone. 421 00:23:15,190 --> 00:23:17,310 And if you don't go, ooh, ah! 422 00:23:17,650 --> 00:23:19,770 That's like a month of getting heckled. 423 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,970 And being heckled, ugh, is the worst. 424 00:23:22,150 --> 00:23:23,350 I'd rather split my head open. 425 00:23:23,510 --> 00:23:24,510 He just kicked his ass. 426 00:23:25,910 --> 00:23:26,570 You're not nervous? 427 00:23:26,571 --> 00:23:27,970 Don't chew your fingernails, man. 428 00:23:28,770 --> 00:23:29,890 He's a little mad right now. 429 00:23:30,290 --> 00:23:33,790 It isn't like a, hey, man, you'll get the next one. 430 00:23:34,370 --> 00:23:36,430 It was verbal beatings. 431 00:23:36,431 --> 00:23:38,370 Like, and you felt this big. 432 00:23:38,620 --> 00:23:41,870 And all you would do is think about, okay, when's my next chance? 433 00:23:42,250 --> 00:23:43,770 Because I can't let that happen again. 434 00:23:44,630 --> 00:23:47,023 I remember eating shit on, like, a 10-foot wave 435 00:23:47,024 --> 00:23:49,510 of pipe and Chester actually acknowledging it. 436 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,390 Like, going, dude, that was sick. 437 00:23:51,730 --> 00:23:53,370 I'm so stoked you went on that wave. 438 00:23:54,050 --> 00:23:58,070 Yeah, but I cartwheeled down the face and ate crap. 439 00:23:58,290 --> 00:24:00,390 And I was like, yeah, that was a killer. 440 00:24:00,710 --> 00:24:03,350 It changed the way we perceived safety. 441 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,730 I mean, at 15, we were surfing 25-foot waves. 442 00:24:05,910 --> 00:24:07,130 It was an unbelievable day. 443 00:24:07,250 --> 00:24:09,650 Flying up in heaven and I fell from the clouds. 444 00:24:09,710 --> 00:24:12,270 It was pretty frickin' sweet until I'm knocked out. 445 00:24:12,310 --> 00:24:15,190 We've been on the sideline for damn long. 446 00:24:15,470 --> 00:24:16,910 Had a lot of fun. 447 00:24:17,010 --> 00:24:18,050 Had a lot of fun. 448 00:24:18,051 --> 00:24:18,250 Had a lot of fun. 449 00:24:18,390 --> 00:24:19,390 Had a lot of fun. 450 00:24:19,490 --> 00:24:20,490 Had a lot of fun. 451 00:24:20,810 --> 00:24:22,070 Had a lot of fun. 452 00:24:32,550 --> 00:24:36,590 I remember one day, as we were paddling out, this enormous jet comes in. 453 00:24:38,170 --> 00:24:39,170 And 454 00:24:43,150 --> 00:24:45,614 I couldn't even take a breath in, so I was, like, 455 00:24:45,674 --> 00:24:47,610 hyperventilating, like, I'm gonna fucking die. 456 00:24:48,910 --> 00:24:52,250 And I remember looking over at Benji and Benji laughing. 457 00:24:52,930 --> 00:24:55,470 Like, a fun ride at an amusement park. 458 00:24:56,050 --> 00:24:59,510 Todd Chesser, he taught me that if a wave breaks in front of you and you laugh, 459 00:24:59,690 --> 00:25:01,610 it calms your heart rate so you can breathe more. 460 00:25:03,390 --> 00:25:06,390 You can't afford to surf big waves if you're scared. 461 00:25:06,590 --> 00:25:09,110 That just means your adrenaline's running, your heart's pumping. 462 00:25:09,810 --> 00:25:12,250 Odds are you're not gonna be able to hold your breath as long. 463 00:25:12,490 --> 00:25:13,490 It's just simple science. 464 00:25:15,430 --> 00:25:16,910 A number of guys got hurt really bad. 465 00:25:16,970 --> 00:25:18,290 Benji had a really bad scary one. 466 00:25:18,350 --> 00:25:21,430 He caught a second reef wave one day and just got hammered on the inside reef. 467 00:25:23,090 --> 00:25:24,650 I got held down for two waves. 468 00:25:24,690 --> 00:25:25,170 I was down. 469 00:25:25,550 --> 00:25:26,970 I was scrambling for my life. 470 00:25:27,350 --> 00:25:29,410 And I felt the give up. 471 00:25:29,550 --> 00:25:32,226 The give up is where you just kind of go, like, I'm not gonna make it. 472 00:25:32,250 --> 00:25:33,250 You know, like... 473 00:25:33,430 --> 00:25:37,430 I remember when I hit the water, the lip hit me and knocked all the wind out of me. 474 00:25:37,530 --> 00:25:38,750 And I was immediately going... 475 00:25:40,230 --> 00:25:41,510 I was underwater forever. 476 00:25:42,250 --> 00:25:45,750 And then the wave finally started letting me up and I started swimming up. 477 00:25:45,950 --> 00:25:48,210 And I felt like this was it. 478 00:25:48,330 --> 00:25:49,910 Like, I need to get to the surface. 479 00:25:50,010 --> 00:25:52,510 And the next wave broke like this over me. 480 00:25:52,730 --> 00:25:54,290 And that was the last thing I remember. 481 00:25:58,090 --> 00:26:00,670 I opened my eyes and time had passed. 482 00:26:00,890 --> 00:26:02,390 I was crying hysterically. 483 00:26:02,570 --> 00:26:06,770 I was just sitting in the foam on my board and I was coughing up all this gross shit. 484 00:26:07,245 --> 00:26:08,810 And I look and Dorian is running. 485 00:26:09,050 --> 00:26:09,510 He's like, oh! 486 00:26:09,790 --> 00:26:10,830 And he comes and grabs me. 487 00:26:11,110 --> 00:26:11,850 Oh, my God. 488 00:26:11,990 --> 00:26:12,750 And we made it. 489 00:26:12,751 --> 00:26:13,210 We hugged. 490 00:26:13,230 --> 00:26:13,690 We're laughing. 491 00:26:13,870 --> 00:26:15,390 And my ears are messed up. 492 00:26:15,430 --> 00:26:16,190 My body hurts. 493 00:26:16,310 --> 00:26:17,430 And I'm like, I almost died. 494 00:26:17,890 --> 00:26:19,410 And Dorian's like, I'm going back out. 495 00:26:20,380 --> 00:26:21,710 And I'm like, ding! 496 00:26:23,150 --> 00:26:24,150 Like... 497 00:26:24,690 --> 00:26:26,798 That's a fine line between having the best 498 00:26:26,799 --> 00:26:29,050 wave of your life and actually getting hurt. 499 00:26:29,350 --> 00:26:32,910 Jack Johnson blew his face up one time on a Kelly You Won't Go. 500 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,960 I went to Jack's house and he looked like the Elephant Man. 501 00:26:41,170 --> 00:26:42,170 His teeth were missing. 502 00:26:42,565 --> 00:26:45,356 And the only thing I could do was kind of almost laugh because I was uncomfortable. 503 00:26:45,380 --> 00:26:46,820 Like, I don't even know what to say. 504 00:26:46,915 --> 00:26:48,155 That wave you hurt yourself on? 505 00:26:48,370 --> 00:26:50,580 Why you told everyone that I said you won't go on that? 506 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:51,480 Why did you do that? 507 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:52,556 You trying to make me feel bad? 508 00:26:52,580 --> 00:26:53,911 I didn't tell anybody that, Kelly. 509 00:26:53,935 --> 00:26:55,160 His life was altered, you know? 510 00:26:55,161 --> 00:26:56,161 Like, he almost died. 511 00:26:57,540 --> 00:27:00,173 Almost dying in big waves, as morbid as it sounds, is 512 00:27:00,174 --> 00:27:02,860 one of the things that's exciting about big wave surfing. 513 00:27:03,120 --> 00:27:05,960 It's that kind of junky vibe you get from it that keeps you coming back. 514 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:10,520 We've all had stitches. 515 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,400 We've all bounced off the bottom. 516 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,420 You go out when it's ten feet. 517 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,080 And you're like, oh, wow. 518 00:27:21,260 --> 00:27:22,600 I took a couple on the head. 519 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:23,300 I hit the bottom. 520 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:24,400 And I'm OK. 521 00:27:25,020 --> 00:27:26,700 So then you go out when it's ten feet. 522 00:27:26,701 --> 00:27:27,701 It's twelve feet. 523 00:27:29,740 --> 00:27:31,260 Next thing you know, it's twenty feet. 524 00:27:34,900 --> 00:27:36,220 I couldn't get out of the barrel. 525 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:37,560 Like, the whole web's gone. 526 00:27:38,060 --> 00:27:40,660 I think I'd be coming out and, like, keep feeling it. 527 00:27:40,780 --> 00:27:41,220 I'd be like, what? 528 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:41,880 What? 529 00:27:42,140 --> 00:27:42,340 What? 530 00:27:42,500 --> 00:27:45,511 I remember being out on this huge day at Pipeline 531 00:27:45,512 --> 00:27:48,380 and watching Shane Dorian catch the twenty-foot left. 532 00:27:49,860 --> 00:27:51,520 And, like, oh, my God. 533 00:27:51,660 --> 00:27:52,660 Dude, that's my friend. 534 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,800 He's on a twenty-foot... Well, if he got one, then I can get one. 535 00:28:01,710 --> 00:28:04,530 Before long, our crew was ruling Pipeline. 536 00:28:04,630 --> 00:28:05,906 I mean, we were catching all the sets. 537 00:28:05,930 --> 00:28:09,210 And it all came from putting our time in and taking our place. 538 00:28:22,380 --> 00:28:24,420 One day, Surfer Magazine calls me. 539 00:28:24,540 --> 00:28:26,056 Hey, we're going to do a photo of your house. 540 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:26,640 And I was like, cool. 541 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:27,320 Why? 542 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,940 And the photo is legendary now. 543 00:28:30,060 --> 00:28:31,780 Like, when I look at it, I'm like, oh, I get it. 544 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:32,976 I know what everyone was saying. 545 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,000 Benji's house. 546 00:28:35,460 --> 00:28:38,020 That day, our crew was set in stone. 547 00:28:39,780 --> 00:28:40,780 We were a brotherhood. 548 00:28:41,940 --> 00:28:43,680 We had our own language for a long time. 549 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,336 We'd all just speak in weird tongues and just had so 550 00:28:46,376 --> 00:28:48,560 many code words that were, like, four layers deep. 551 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:50,800 Get up, Boulay. 552 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:52,060 Contest is on, bro. 553 00:28:52,420 --> 00:28:53,500 Get up and get some cereal. 554 00:28:53,620 --> 00:28:54,860 This is your sock on drugs. 555 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:56,920 This is my sock on PK. 556 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,240 Kalani is, like, a younger brother who doesn't know where he fits in sometimes. 557 00:29:01,700 --> 00:29:03,600 And so he would be, like, a little shit to us. 558 00:29:03,900 --> 00:29:05,620 One time, we were jumping on the trampoline. 559 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,600 And for absolutely no reason whatsoever, on an 560 00:29:07,601 --> 00:29:10,261 up bounce, he just pushed me into the bushes. 561 00:29:10,330 --> 00:29:11,916 I got up and I wanted to kill him, but he was so small. 562 00:29:11,940 --> 00:29:12,780 I'm like, why did you do that? 563 00:29:12,820 --> 00:29:13,920 He's like, I don't know. 564 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:15,440 I just felt like doing that. 565 00:29:16,190 --> 00:29:18,080 We sponsored Kalani when he was 10 years old. 566 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,396 He was really wiggly and really fast, really squirmy. 567 00:29:20,420 --> 00:29:21,220 Wiggly, wiggly, wiggly. 568 00:29:21,340 --> 00:29:23,100 I'm like, this guy's so wiggly. 569 00:29:23,340 --> 00:29:24,280 He was this big. 570 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:25,520 He was like an action figure. 571 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,340 And he was doing things that no 12-year-old's ever done. 572 00:29:28,980 --> 00:29:30,860 He's got the genes of Superman. 573 00:29:31,580 --> 00:29:33,900 He can eat cinnamon rolls and get ripped. 574 00:29:35,020 --> 00:29:36,580 We all have different diets completely. 575 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,220 Shane eats protein. 576 00:29:39,221 --> 00:29:41,360 He eats protein and raw deer and stuff that he kills. 577 00:29:41,460 --> 00:29:42,460 Like that. 578 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:44,640 Machado? 579 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:45,560 Quesadillas. 580 00:29:45,820 --> 00:29:46,500 All day. 581 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:47,400 That's it. 582 00:29:47,580 --> 00:29:48,580 Ranch, quesadillas. 583 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,440 Kelly eats raw almonds and air. 584 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,800 Ross is on a paleo, anorexic, heroin diet. 585 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,200 I eat carbs. 586 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:00,360 Ugh. 587 00:30:00,470 --> 00:30:01,470 Out of beer bottles. 588 00:30:02,380 --> 00:30:03,500 Benji's a class clown. 589 00:30:05,540 --> 00:30:08,160 Benji doesn't have one competitive bone in his body. 590 00:30:09,220 --> 00:30:09,760 He's like the extreme. 591 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,600 There's Kelly and there's Benji over here. 592 00:30:19,860 --> 00:30:21,240 Kelly is hell. 593 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,740 Because we all think he sold his soul to the devil. 594 00:30:25,460 --> 00:30:27,340 He's always been freakishly flexible. 595 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,300 He's got scoliosis in his spine. 596 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:31,860 That is so wrong. 597 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,280 Triple jointed. 598 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,760 The weird nugget cast with the twig legs. 599 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,180 He's got a body that no human's supposed to have. 600 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:40,560 Like, he's creepy, bud. 601 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:43,760 Kelly's like he's Syrian. 602 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,240 He's like meant to be in the sun. 603 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,240 Shane is just Shane-o. 604 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:49,600 Shane-o! 605 00:30:49,820 --> 00:30:50,820 Shane-o. 606 00:30:50,980 --> 00:30:52,100 He's super into his hair. 607 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,520 I think that's a bad thing for a guy who's bald now. 608 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,660 Like, I'm glad I was never that into my hair. 609 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,260 Whenever a camera would come out, Shane would kind of pucker his lips. 610 00:31:04,420 --> 00:31:05,400 We used to all give him shit. 611 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:06,540 Like, what are you doing with your mouth, dude? 612 00:31:06,541 --> 00:31:10,420 Shane did the frickin' Zoolander Blue Steel before that movie came out. 613 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:13,100 Ross. 614 00:31:13,500 --> 00:31:14,640 Really sarcastic. 615 00:31:15,250 --> 00:31:16,250 Dirty sense of humor. 616 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:16,920 I like it. 617 00:31:17,060 --> 00:31:18,380 Ross is super gross. 618 00:31:18,580 --> 00:31:20,600 Says horribly inappropriate things. 619 00:31:20,925 --> 00:31:22,725 But looks like the nicest guy you've ever met. 620 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,800 Pat's like a little garden gnome. 621 00:31:26,155 --> 00:31:28,500 He is the happiest guy in the world. 622 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,540 Like, when Pat has a bad day, he's like, man, I'm so bummed right now. 623 00:31:32,290 --> 00:31:33,610 That's Pat being mad right there. 624 00:31:33,700 --> 00:31:34,700 Pat falls. 625 00:31:35,020 --> 00:31:36,520 He had a fascination in his balls. 626 00:31:36,521 --> 00:31:37,521 When we were young. 627 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:42,620 He'd look over at him at, like, lunch, or in the lineup, or when we were 628 00:31:42,621 --> 00:31:44,636 waiting for a flight, and he'd just have his balls out. 629 00:31:44,660 --> 00:31:45,820 He was proud of his balls. 630 00:31:46,180 --> 00:31:47,780 He was like a little guy with big balls. 631 00:31:49,100 --> 00:31:50,100 I do. 632 00:31:52,100 --> 00:31:52,460 Yeah. 633 00:31:52,900 --> 00:31:53,540 I don't know. 634 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,820 I just would always, um, they'd always just drop out. 635 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,000 Oh, is anyone there? 636 00:31:58,460 --> 00:31:59,460 Where the hell am I? 637 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,080 Taylor Knox was the biggest jock of our crew. 638 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,600 The quarterback guy in high school that pulled underwear off the guy's butt. 639 00:32:05,601 --> 00:32:06,601 And he was that guy. 640 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,660 Taylor Knox's nickname was Bonehead. 641 00:32:10,900 --> 00:32:12,420 We're not supposed to say that, though. 642 00:32:14,075 --> 00:32:15,355 Everyone else call him Bonehead? 643 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:16,600 Am I the only one? 644 00:32:20,540 --> 00:32:21,540 Robin Shado. 645 00:32:21,580 --> 00:32:22,580 Just call him the Fro. 646 00:32:23,180 --> 00:32:23,680 Fro-mo. 647 00:32:24,020 --> 00:32:25,320 He grows fast, dude. 648 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:26,436 You got a pretty fertile head. 649 00:32:26,460 --> 00:32:27,460 Yeah. 650 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:28,560 He said head. 651 00:32:28,561 --> 00:32:29,200 He said fertile. 652 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:30,260 I mean, let's be honest. 653 00:32:30,340 --> 00:32:31,340 The white Jimi Hendrix. 654 00:32:31,420 --> 00:32:35,120 They would see him walking down the street in Japan, and it was like Elvis sight. 655 00:32:35,121 --> 00:32:36,140 You just see the afro. 656 00:32:36,220 --> 00:32:37,900 And you would see that thing going through. 657 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,440 And then there was Taylor Steele. 658 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,100 Every morning on my way to school, I'd have to walk right by this old van. 659 00:32:49,340 --> 00:32:51,840 Like, it looked like, you know, a rapist van. 660 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:52,440 100%. 661 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,860 One day, it's almost Christmas, and my mom goes, hey, why don't you invite 662 00:32:56,861 --> 00:32:58,880 those two boys in that van out there for dinner? 663 00:32:59,180 --> 00:32:59,900 And I go, what? 664 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:00,560 No way. 665 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:01,700 She's like, come on. 666 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,280 They don't have their family here. 667 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,020 So I go out there. 668 00:33:04,021 --> 00:33:05,021 I'm like, hey, guys. 669 00:33:05,060 --> 00:33:06,060 You know? 670 00:33:06,740 --> 00:33:08,020 The whole door comes open. 671 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:08,480 I'm like, whoa. 672 00:33:08,620 --> 00:33:09,676 You know, like, they lived in there. 673 00:33:09,700 --> 00:33:10,700 It was kind of gnarly. 674 00:33:10,785 --> 00:33:12,796 And I'm like, hey, you guys want to have Christmas dinner here? 675 00:33:12,820 --> 00:33:13,820 They're like, yeah. 676 00:33:14,750 --> 00:33:16,150 Yeah, that story's not true at all. 677 00:33:17,300 --> 00:33:20,260 Benji only let me stay at his house because I was doing his chores for him. 678 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,080 Are you having fun doing dishes? 679 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,800 We're shooting Pipeline every day, because that was the spot to shoot. 680 00:33:26,700 --> 00:33:29,300 Seeing yourself on video was a huge novelty at that time. 681 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,320 There was no one on the beach with cameras. 682 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,960 That was just, like, way before videos were videos. 683 00:33:37,250 --> 00:33:38,000 We weren't in videos. 684 00:33:38,001 --> 00:33:40,241 It was only big-time corporate companies that did videos. 685 00:33:40,780 --> 00:33:43,560 After each session, Taylor only let us watch it one 686 00:33:43,561 --> 00:33:46,080 time through, and we couldn't stop, rewind, or pause. 687 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:46,720 Okay? 688 00:33:46,780 --> 00:33:47,976 Because it would destroy the taste. 689 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,220 There'd be, like, 25 of us all screaming, oh, he got smashed. 690 00:33:51,300 --> 00:33:51,580 Gal smashed. 691 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:52,460 Shane no got it. 692 00:33:52,500 --> 00:33:53,220 Or he had the best one. 693 00:33:53,260 --> 00:33:54,260 He won the session today. 694 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:55,996 So that could be, like, five hours. 695 00:33:56,020 --> 00:33:56,180 Yeah. 696 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,111 One day, I remember Taylor telling us, hey, I'm going to 697 00:33:59,151 --> 00:34:01,196 make this movie, and you guys are all going to do parts. 698 00:34:01,220 --> 00:34:02,820 So then we started working on our parts. 699 00:34:04,490 --> 00:34:07,420 None of us really knew what was about to happen. 700 00:34:11,530 --> 00:34:13,385 The guys were surfing faster and more 701 00:34:13,386 --> 00:34:17,051 energetic, and I wanted that kind of feel to it. 702 00:34:19,630 --> 00:34:23,098 Punk rock and surfing were never merged before, and 703 00:34:23,099 --> 00:34:25,570 I didn't know it until I put it in the first edit. 704 00:34:25,690 --> 00:34:28,750 And once I saw it in an edit, I went, that is the perfect mix. 705 00:34:41,150 --> 00:34:44,130 But my parents, they just didn't get it. 706 00:34:44,150 --> 00:34:46,410 The footage didn't look that great. 707 00:34:46,685 --> 00:34:47,890 It was kind of grainy. 708 00:34:48,130 --> 00:34:48,930 I'm old school. 709 00:34:49,050 --> 00:34:53,270 All the surf movies I'd seen had scenery and locations. 710 00:34:55,530 --> 00:34:59,374 At the time, surf movies were built on going to an exotic 711 00:34:59,375 --> 00:35:01,971 destination that only a handful of people could afford. 712 00:35:02,530 --> 00:35:06,010 But Taylor's movies were built in everyday conditions. 713 00:35:07,130 --> 00:35:09,190 All of a sudden, the kids could relate. 714 00:35:09,410 --> 00:35:11,404 They're like, oh, my God, I just got to watch the 715 00:35:11,405 --> 00:35:13,811 best surfers surf waves that I surf every day. 716 00:35:30,970 --> 00:35:33,070 We didn't relate to it, but we said, OK, what 717 00:35:33,071 --> 00:35:35,571 we'll do is we'll pay for the first thousand. 718 00:35:35,790 --> 00:35:37,270 But you have to go sell them. 719 00:35:37,450 --> 00:35:38,110 This is Taylor. 720 00:35:38,190 --> 00:35:39,450 That's an attack dog for you. 721 00:35:39,550 --> 00:35:40,070 What have you been doing? 722 00:35:40,330 --> 00:35:41,030 Making movies. 723 00:35:41,290 --> 00:35:42,486 Are you doing this for school? 724 00:35:42,510 --> 00:35:43,710 Yeah, just for the hell of it. 725 00:35:43,930 --> 00:35:45,450 This guy, he's from Bubblegum. 726 00:35:45,710 --> 00:35:46,630 Why don't you come in on Monday? 727 00:35:46,730 --> 00:35:47,130 All right. 728 00:35:47,190 --> 00:35:47,670 I'll take care of you. 729 00:35:47,730 --> 00:35:51,590 When Taylor came back and said he sold all of them, we were in shock. 730 00:35:51,870 --> 00:35:53,050 We started liking it. 731 00:35:53,130 --> 00:35:55,130 In fact, my husband would work out to the music. 732 00:35:56,150 --> 00:35:57,390 Wow, look at all these people. 733 00:35:57,410 --> 00:35:58,410 They're so cool. 734 00:35:58,870 --> 00:35:59,870 Holy shit. 735 00:36:04,260 --> 00:36:06,247 It was such a success that Taylor immediately was like, 736 00:36:06,248 --> 00:36:08,221 hey, we're going to do another one of these things. 737 00:36:11,340 --> 00:36:12,580 We're going to film for a year. 738 00:36:12,700 --> 00:36:14,100 Try and make the best part you can. 739 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,340 Taylor's movies were like the glue between us. 740 00:36:20,260 --> 00:36:22,260 They were the thing that bonded us, kept us together, 741 00:36:22,284 --> 00:36:24,440 traveling together, staying together, filming together. 742 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:49,160 We started touring the movies with the bands that had songs in the films. 743 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:51,280 Art 744 00:36:56,010 --> 00:37:00,170 that is speeding really fast and it's gonna explode out of your chest if you 745 00:37:00,171 --> 00:37:02,324 don't make something of yourself, because you're 746 00:37:02,325 --> 00:37:04,551 driven to change how it was when you were younger. 747 00:37:08,930 --> 00:37:12,630 We were all disenfranchised youth trying to find our own way. 748 00:37:16,050 --> 00:37:19,150 There would be no Unwritten Law without the Momentum and Focus videos. 749 00:37:19,370 --> 00:37:21,560 When we recognized we had fans across the planet, 750 00:37:21,561 --> 00:37:24,910 we just kind of celebrated every night since then. 751 00:37:33,630 --> 00:37:36,310 Taylor's movie was the biggest thing that ever happened to our band. 752 00:37:36,750 --> 00:37:38,210 It changed our lives completely. 753 00:37:38,510 --> 00:37:40,612 It meant that we could put out records and go on tour 754 00:37:40,613 --> 00:37:42,871 for the rest of our lives and that's what we did. 755 00:37:49,030 --> 00:37:50,030 I want 756 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,360 to thank Taylor Steele for making this all fucking possible. 757 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:20,880 Taylor Steele's movies made the Momentum crew all pretty big and pretty popular. 758 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,007 But there wasn't a lot of belief amongst the old guard 759 00:38:24,008 --> 00:38:26,440 that these guys were actually gonna make it competitively. 760 00:38:26,980 --> 00:38:29,660 Back then there was two things that were important to us. 761 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:34,180 Getting a good section in Taylor's movies and making it on the World Tour. 762 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:40,780 The World Tour used to be the top 44 surfers in the world, competing through a 763 00:38:40,781 --> 00:38:43,620 series of 10 to 12 events all over the world. 764 00:38:43,780 --> 00:38:46,960 And only one guy is crowned world champion at the end of the year. 765 00:38:47,240 --> 00:38:50,740 The Australians were dominant like the Hawaiians in Hawaii. 766 00:38:50,741 --> 00:38:51,980 Anyway, that's their zone. 767 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,180 Well over 50% of guys on tour were from Australia. 768 00:38:59,300 --> 00:39:01,740 Australia and America had a great rivalry going. 769 00:39:02,020 --> 00:39:05,140 When we drew those guys in the heats, it made us try that much harder. 770 00:39:05,380 --> 00:39:07,849 Whatever happens, I'm gonna get a chance to beat him, 771 00:39:07,850 --> 00:39:10,181 and I'm just really looking forward to that opportunity. 772 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,440 The Australian guys were so dominant at the time, they had so many world champions. 773 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,240 There were this old guard on the tour that we all looked up to. 774 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,240 I'd see these guys, I'd see them in magazines. 775 00:39:19,010 --> 00:39:20,010 I was so starstruck. 776 00:39:20,740 --> 00:39:22,438 And we'd get in heats with them, and they were 777 00:39:22,439 --> 00:39:24,661 so willing to do anything it took to beat us. 778 00:39:24,820 --> 00:39:25,820 And I mean anything. 779 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,636 Paddle through the pack, and you growl at everyone, and you give them stink eye, 780 00:39:29,660 --> 00:39:31,756 and you make sure that every good wave comes through, you're on it. 781 00:39:31,780 --> 00:39:33,180 You know, you don't give a shit about anyone else. 782 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,200 It's a selfish sport. 783 00:39:34,260 --> 00:39:35,360 Get out of my bloody way. 784 00:39:35,650 --> 00:39:36,650 You know, it's my day. 785 00:39:36,820 --> 00:39:39,113 It was like our generation versus their 786 00:39:39,114 --> 00:39:41,320 generation, and those guys saw us as a core threat. 787 00:39:41,930 --> 00:39:43,130 There was so much on the line. 788 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,340 This is my career, this is my lifestyle that's setting myself up for the rest of 789 00:39:46,341 --> 00:39:49,061 my life, so I'm not gonna let some little twerp take it away from me. 790 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:50,680 I had a heat with them. 791 00:39:50,740 --> 00:39:52,536 Martin Potter ended up winning right at the end. 792 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,720 He ran up the beach and bashed his board into the big fence there and ripped out 793 00:39:56,721 --> 00:39:58,776 all the, like, electrical cords and was, like, throwing a fit. 794 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,740 I was so stoked that that was the reaction to him losing. 795 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,780 My first year on tour, I took down Martin Potter. 796 00:40:05,780 --> 00:40:08,132 I remember hearing him yelling on the beach, and 797 00:40:08,133 --> 00:40:11,120 I was just sitting out in the water, giggling. 798 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,732 My first win on tour was against Gary 799 00:40:14,744 --> 00:40:16,900 Ogerton, and it was in France, where he lived. 800 00:40:17,140 --> 00:40:18,376 It turned into this big protest. 801 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,420 His wife came and rushed the stand, and he starts throwing his board and 802 00:40:21,421 --> 00:40:23,660 screaming at the judges, and I thought it was great. 803 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:24,800 I loved it. 804 00:40:25,110 --> 00:40:26,190 I loved every second of it. 805 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,460 The first time I ever competed against Slater before the contest, Kelly's 806 00:40:30,461 --> 00:40:33,440 standing right there, and he sort of puts his hand out to say, good luck, 807 00:40:33,620 --> 00:40:37,180 and I slapped his hand away and said, get the frick out of my face, mate. 808 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,880 But the whole surfing world knew he was the messiah. 809 00:40:42,420 --> 00:40:44,004 You know, it was like, it's not if he's gonna 810 00:40:44,005 --> 00:40:46,381 win a world title, it's how many he's gonna win. 811 00:40:47,660 --> 00:40:50,520 Kelly was always, by far, the best surfer in our group. 812 00:40:50,700 --> 00:40:52,140 No one disputed that. 813 00:40:52,900 --> 00:40:55,380 We were all rooting for him to win the world title. 814 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,980 In 91, Kelly finished 44th. 815 00:40:59,980 --> 00:41:03,780 And then that next year, he won the world title. 816 00:41:07,140 --> 00:41:09,320 We were just, like, tripping. 817 00:41:10,100 --> 00:41:11,720 It was a victory for all of us. 818 00:41:12,100 --> 00:41:13,740 We were working as a unit. 819 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,300 Our levels were all rising. 820 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,130 And in the successive years after I won, 93, 4, 5, 821 00:41:19,131 --> 00:41:22,461 basically all my friends started winning events. 822 00:41:23,540 --> 00:41:25,940 I just needed one wave, and thank God I got it, you know? 823 00:41:26,140 --> 00:41:28,360 He seemed to have found a new confidence from winning. 824 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:29,560 It feels unreal. 825 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,620 I think it's really important for American surfing right now because our level of 826 00:41:34,621 --> 00:41:35,681 surfing has improved drastically compared 827 00:41:35,682 --> 00:41:38,321 with the Australians over the last few years. 828 00:41:52,260 --> 00:41:55,220 I would just like to thank all the fans for coming out and supporting. 829 00:41:55,900 --> 00:41:57,400 It's just a great feeling. 830 00:41:57,660 --> 00:41:59,560 Do you have any messages to your mom or father? 831 00:41:59,660 --> 00:42:00,140 Yeah. 832 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:00,800 Hello. 833 00:42:00,801 --> 00:42:01,280 Hello. 834 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,880 Well, thank you very much. 835 00:42:05,060 --> 00:42:05,580 Thanks. 836 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,000 It was surreal. 837 00:42:09,370 --> 00:42:10,960 It wasn't a dream anymore. 838 00:42:13,500 --> 00:42:16,820 All of a sudden, being a pro surfer was a reality. 839 00:42:17,860 --> 00:42:19,440 We were just taking over the tour. 840 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,460 Different lines being drawn. 841 00:42:23,580 --> 00:42:25,560 Different boards being rowed. 842 00:42:25,780 --> 00:42:27,040 More aerials. 843 00:42:27,240 --> 00:42:28,240 More tail slides. 844 00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:29,720 Faster. 845 00:42:30,660 --> 00:42:32,180 The judges had to adapt. 846 00:42:32,980 --> 00:42:34,160 Everyone had to adapt. 847 00:42:36,900 --> 00:42:39,644 It was a different way of surfing from what was being done 848 00:42:39,645 --> 00:42:42,400 before where it was everything was sort of on the wave. 849 00:42:42,870 --> 00:42:43,940 Okay, we've got that. 850 00:42:44,770 --> 00:42:46,770 But now we're going to start going above the limit. 851 00:42:48,180 --> 00:42:50,893 Kelly and I were really working on the narrower, thinner 852 00:42:50,894 --> 00:42:53,580 boards so that they could more easily be thrown into the air. 853 00:42:54,780 --> 00:42:57,280 I remember one time Kelly came down the line 854 00:42:57,292 --> 00:42:59,580 surfing this wave and flew over my head. 855 00:42:59,581 --> 00:43:00,581 Doing a helicopter. 856 00:43:01,300 --> 00:43:02,300 Landed. 857 00:43:02,645 --> 00:43:04,160 And I went, oh my gosh. 858 00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:05,520 Things are really changing. 859 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:06,960 Hey, bud. 860 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:08,280 Let's party. 861 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,360 Back in the 70s and 80s, if you surfed, you were a fucking loser. 862 00:43:11,460 --> 00:43:11,960 You were a hippie. 863 00:43:11,961 --> 00:43:12,520 You were a stoner. 864 00:43:12,860 --> 00:43:14,580 You didn't get respect if you were a surfer. 865 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:19,400 At that time, there was a major drug culture within surfing as a whole. 866 00:43:19,540 --> 00:43:21,540 But in our group, nobody was doing drugs. 867 00:43:21,820 --> 00:43:22,940 It was a clean lifestyle. 868 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,740 I've been asked to talk about, you know, how bad drugs are and everything. 869 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:26,900 To us, it was a real sport. 870 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,390 And that was the thing that you could also package 871 00:43:30,391 --> 00:43:32,180 up and say, these guys are actually athletes. 872 00:43:32,260 --> 00:43:33,760 They're taking it to this next level. 873 00:43:37,990 --> 00:43:39,909 Right before Taylor's movies came out, 874 00:43:39,921 --> 00:43:42,150 there was a pretty big recession in surfing. 875 00:43:42,370 --> 00:43:46,150 And then the momentum generation put a whole bunch of new energy into the sport. 876 00:43:46,330 --> 00:43:47,970 And surfing had a boom period. 877 00:43:48,590 --> 00:43:50,030 Surfing used to be a subculture. 878 00:43:50,230 --> 00:43:51,590 Then it became a counterculture. 879 00:43:51,790 --> 00:43:53,410 And then it became an action sport. 880 00:43:53,650 --> 00:43:55,050 Jumped it, beat it, surfed it. 881 00:43:55,230 --> 00:43:56,230 You bring on the X Games. 882 00:43:56,330 --> 00:43:57,826 You throw a little punk rock in there. 883 00:43:57,850 --> 00:43:59,790 All of a sudden, it's on ESPN, ABC. 884 00:44:00,370 --> 00:44:02,330 MTV, youth movement. 885 00:44:02,490 --> 00:44:03,490 The industry changed. 886 00:44:03,830 --> 00:44:04,830 Magazines changed. 887 00:44:05,070 --> 00:44:06,070 Fashion changed. 888 00:44:06,570 --> 00:44:08,010 Sponsors were popping up everywhere. 889 00:44:08,470 --> 00:44:10,710 The momentum guys just leapfrogged. 890 00:44:10,870 --> 00:44:11,930 All the expectations. 891 00:44:12,230 --> 00:44:13,230 All the boundaries. 892 00:44:13,370 --> 00:44:15,430 The surf world just went 180 degrees. 893 00:44:15,990 --> 00:44:18,310 All of a sudden, these guys were it. 894 00:44:19,230 --> 00:44:22,770 Those magical years, when you saw all of our names growing together. 895 00:44:23,270 --> 00:44:27,090 Kelly paved the way because he was crossing over into mainstream media. 896 00:44:27,310 --> 00:44:30,024 As embarrassed as Kelly is by doing Baywatch, 897 00:44:30,025 --> 00:44:32,210 he went into how many millions of homes? 898 00:44:32,390 --> 00:44:33,870 That turned the light on for surfing. 899 00:44:33,950 --> 00:44:37,850 Because you had some average family in Kentucky turn on Baywatch. 900 00:44:37,930 --> 00:44:39,046 Like, who's this Kelly Slater guy? 901 00:44:39,070 --> 00:44:39,670 Oh, he surfs. 902 00:44:39,671 --> 00:44:40,671 What's surfing? 903 00:44:41,130 --> 00:44:42,130 Fucking Baywatch. 904 00:44:42,390 --> 00:44:44,010 I mean, everybody made fun of him. 905 00:44:44,170 --> 00:44:45,170 It was unbelievable. 906 00:44:45,270 --> 00:44:46,510 It was the corniest thing ever. 907 00:44:46,745 --> 00:44:48,430 I was really insecure about it, you know? 908 00:44:48,530 --> 00:44:50,066 I was like, why did I do this thing, man? 909 00:44:50,090 --> 00:44:52,210 The whole thing was just so outrageous and ridiculous. 910 00:44:52,590 --> 00:44:54,814 We'd be surfing a place where we wouldn't have leashes 911 00:44:54,838 --> 00:44:56,410 right in front of a cliff, because that's what you do. 912 00:44:56,530 --> 00:44:58,384 And we would lose our boards, and it would just 913 00:44:58,385 --> 00:45:00,551 perfectly go into this cave, which is what happens. 914 00:45:01,050 --> 00:45:04,690 And there would be an octopus in there, which is, of course, believable. 915 00:45:08,790 --> 00:45:10,290 I looked at the guy who wrote that. 916 00:45:10,330 --> 00:45:13,140 I'm like, you... Like, you did not... Did you write this? 917 00:45:13,780 --> 00:45:17,403 The bottom line is, my boy was on the hottest TV show 918 00:45:17,404 --> 00:45:20,810 around, hooked up with the hottest woman on Earth. 919 00:45:21,070 --> 00:45:23,517 Kelly Slater's become the envy of guys the world over 920 00:45:23,518 --> 00:45:26,250 for snagging the ultimate beach beauty, Pamela Anderson. 921 00:45:26,370 --> 00:45:29,530 Pamela Anderson supporting her latest bow contestant, Kelly Slater. 922 00:45:29,550 --> 00:45:30,250 But is it serious? 923 00:45:30,330 --> 00:45:31,370 It's a bit too early to say. 924 00:45:31,371 --> 00:45:33,070 They're both extraordinarily attractive people. 925 00:45:33,090 --> 00:45:36,830 Slater's agent says Anderson and Slater are just very close friends. 926 00:45:42,290 --> 00:45:46,870 They would hand out Photo Slut of the Year Award to the guy that just tried too hard. 927 00:45:47,170 --> 00:45:53,950 I watched the work of Mack in Bold and Boyful Because Chester would make fun of 928 00:45:53,951 --> 00:45:55,746 you if you got too many photos in the magazine. 929 00:45:55,770 --> 00:45:56,370 No photos, please. 930 00:45:56,510 --> 00:46:00,870 Todd was like the moral compass defining what was cool and not cool. 931 00:46:01,250 --> 00:46:02,130 Listen here, Spielberg. 932 00:46:02,131 --> 00:46:03,131 Turn off the camera. 933 00:46:03,390 --> 00:46:07,990 Chester was the guy that kept everybody honest, kept everybody real and humble. 934 00:46:08,270 --> 00:46:11,370 If anybody got on their high horse, he would just level them. 935 00:46:11,910 --> 00:46:16,090 I want to ask you about your morals and if you feel cheap about using women for sex. 936 00:46:16,610 --> 00:46:17,090 No. 937 00:46:17,490 --> 00:46:17,970 No? 938 00:46:18,180 --> 00:46:18,930 Not at all. 939 00:46:19,070 --> 00:46:19,470 No remorse? 940 00:46:19,730 --> 00:46:23,751 If you ever puffed your chest out, Todd would be the first one to pop your bubble. 941 00:46:24,670 --> 00:46:26,170 He was really the soulful guy. 942 00:46:26,610 --> 00:46:28,510 He didn't seek out the limelight. 943 00:46:29,850 --> 00:46:32,070 Don't just surf when there's cameras. 944 00:46:32,071 --> 00:46:34,046 When there's cameras on the beach, like, who are you? 945 00:46:34,070 --> 00:46:35,670 Say hello to your man. 946 00:46:35,850 --> 00:46:37,470 I'm putting music over all this stuff. 947 00:46:38,270 --> 00:46:41,637 To all the guys, Todd came across as so macho, but 948 00:46:41,638 --> 00:46:45,190 really, when it was just me and him, he was such a softie. 949 00:46:47,510 --> 00:46:50,790 One night, Todd kept saying, you should go to this one bar. 950 00:46:51,010 --> 00:46:54,130 So me and all my friends were there, and all of a sudden, the singer goes, 951 00:46:54,515 --> 00:46:56,170 we have a special guest here tonight. 952 00:46:57,310 --> 00:46:59,350 Mr. Todd Chester, come up. 953 00:46:59,510 --> 00:47:02,050 He has this white 70s ruffle tuxedo. 954 00:47:03,590 --> 00:47:08,210 And he got down on one knee and said, will you marry me, honey baby? 955 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,270 And the singer said, now you've got to answer. 956 00:47:13,145 --> 00:47:14,145 And I said, yes. 957 00:47:14,370 --> 00:47:15,370 And my eye, ooh. 958 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,380 Everything was coming into place. 959 00:47:23,580 --> 00:47:24,860 He found the girl of his dreams. 960 00:47:24,940 --> 00:47:25,800 He had a good sponsor. 961 00:47:25,940 --> 00:47:27,540 Everything was going just terrifically. 962 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,200 For Todd, it was the time to finally grow up. 963 00:47:35,500 --> 00:47:36,700 We were all so happy. 964 00:47:36,701 --> 00:47:38,821 I'm excited for him to get married and the whole deal. 965 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,000 Good morning. 966 00:47:40,370 --> 00:47:41,610 Where's the freaking elephants? 967 00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:45,096 He was just a good example to remind us to stay 968 00:47:45,097 --> 00:47:47,020 true to ourselves and remember what's important. 969 00:47:47,580 --> 00:47:49,720 He was the closest thing to a soul surfer out of all 970 00:47:49,721 --> 00:47:52,980 of us because he didn't care about the accolades. 971 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,500 It's not about titles. 972 00:47:55,660 --> 00:47:57,180 It's about being happy. 973 00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:02,400 I mean, nothing was cooler about our crew than when Kelly won his first world title. 974 00:48:02,615 --> 00:48:06,240 We put that jerk in a freaking trash can with a helmet and a blanket. 975 00:48:06,241 --> 00:48:07,281 We pushed him down a hill. 976 00:48:10,780 --> 00:48:12,560 He just ate crap the whole way down. 977 00:48:13,740 --> 00:48:15,985 Any other sport, the Michael Jordan in that sport, is 978 00:48:15,986 --> 00:48:18,241 not rolling down a mountain after his first world title. 979 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:19,320 It was crazy. 980 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:20,440 It was a crazy time. 981 00:48:20,780 --> 00:48:24,860 I felt like all of my childhood dreams came together in this weird reality where 982 00:48:24,861 --> 00:48:26,150 I was with my friends traveling around the 983 00:48:26,151 --> 00:48:28,901 world, doing what I wanted to do for a living. 984 00:48:29,860 --> 00:48:32,840 The best feeling that I had was I just belonged. 985 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:37,620 For the longest time in my life, I feel like the carrot dangling in front 986 00:48:37,621 --> 00:48:40,260 of the horse where I was like right in front of me for so long. 987 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:41,480 And I was like 988 00:49:27,740 --> 00:49:29,120 Well, you got one now. 989 00:50:12,790 --> 00:50:13,870 That was great. 990 00:50:14,110 --> 00:50:14,850 Wow, that was groovy. 991 00:50:14,950 --> 00:50:15,990 Marshall, get out of here. 992 00:50:20,870 --> 00:50:23,050 In the mid-90s, it was our show. 993 00:50:23,630 --> 00:50:25,909 It was no longer the new kids up against the 994 00:50:25,910 --> 00:50:28,911 guys that were still hanging around from the 80s. 995 00:50:30,170 --> 00:50:32,730 We weren't looking up anymore, and we were looking at each other. 996 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,060 The only reason Shane's good is because he hangs out with me. 997 00:50:42,420 --> 00:50:43,500 That's the only reason. 998 00:50:44,860 --> 00:50:45,860 What? 999 00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:47,360 Because I like beating Ross. 1000 00:50:48,260 --> 00:50:50,740 He hasn't beat me in a long time, and I'm really proud of that. 1001 00:50:51,740 --> 00:50:55,060 Ross and Shane had this crazy rivalry at the time. 1002 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:56,800 They're the same age. 1003 00:50:56,860 --> 00:50:58,160 They had the same sponsor. 1004 00:50:58,460 --> 00:51:00,520 They were competing at every level. 1005 00:51:00,740 --> 00:51:01,740 You want to go? 1006 00:51:02,260 --> 00:51:03,260 Yeah. 1007 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:06,460 You want to go? 1008 00:51:06,461 --> 00:51:08,200 I can 1009 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:16,420 still remember Shane had a heat with Ross at Reunion Island. 1010 00:51:16,620 --> 00:51:18,080 They're screaming at each other. 1011 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:19,320 Fuck yous. 1012 00:51:19,321 --> 00:51:21,760 And we were just like, I'm going to get the hell out of here. 1013 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,556 You know there's two sides to every story? 1014 00:51:28,580 --> 00:51:28,880 There's not. 1015 00:51:29,220 --> 00:51:31,780 This story, there's only one side. 1016 00:51:31,900 --> 00:51:32,900 It's the truth. 1017 00:51:33,395 --> 00:51:36,475 We were staying together at Reunion Island, and then we were in the same heat. 1018 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:38,780 Shane versus Ross the next day. 1019 00:51:39,330 --> 00:51:41,020 And one board that was super, super good. 1020 00:51:41,240 --> 00:51:42,540 I was so amped on the board. 1021 00:51:42,620 --> 00:51:44,540 I remember telling Ross how good my board worked. 1022 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,020 The next morning I wake up. 1023 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:47,440 Ross is gone. 1024 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,000 Perfect fist-sized hole in my board. 1025 00:51:50,785 --> 00:51:53,465 And we're staying together in the same room with no one else around. 1026 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,240 I woke up in the middle of the night and punched his board. 1027 00:51:56,780 --> 00:51:57,380 I don't know. 1028 00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:58,720 I must have blocked that out. 1029 00:51:58,820 --> 00:51:59,560 I don't remember doing that. 1030 00:51:59,620 --> 00:52:00,620 That's crazy. 1031 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:01,800 What a snapper. 1032 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:02,880 I grew up in Waialua. 1033 00:52:02,980 --> 00:52:03,420 Can't help it. 1034 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:04,440 I'm part Moke. 1035 00:52:05,090 --> 00:52:06,396 I don't remember doing that though. 1036 00:52:06,420 --> 00:52:06,860 Is he sure? 1037 00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:08,120 I remember just going, wow. 1038 00:52:08,121 --> 00:52:09,680 I can't believe you do that. 1039 00:52:09,780 --> 00:52:10,780 So next level. 1040 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:12,400 And I beat him. 1041 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:15,820 It felt so good. 1042 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,080 I'm riding the board of the hole and everything. 1043 00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:22,497 Well, of course, Shane would tell you that 1044 00:52:22,498 --> 00:52:25,001 story because that's the one where he smoked me. 1045 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,840 But at the end of the day, our rivalry wasn't as bad as Rob and Kelly. 1046 00:52:32,100 --> 00:52:34,020 And if you get behind, you're just going to quit? 1047 00:52:34,500 --> 00:52:34,900 Yeah. 1048 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:36,120 Yeah, I like that. 1049 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:37,540 It makes it easier. 1050 00:52:37,620 --> 00:52:37,740 Yeah. 1051 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:38,840 I mean, it's all that about you. 1052 00:52:38,940 --> 00:52:40,196 You know, you give up so easily. 1053 00:52:40,220 --> 00:52:42,073 Especially that one year, 95, where 1054 00:52:42,085 --> 00:52:44,520 everything came to a head, there was conflict. 1055 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:49,120 So that's when you see this magnifying glass on that raw motivation for Kelly, 1056 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:50,480 you know, almost like demons. 1057 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,680 It gets put on the forefront against Rob. 1058 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,860 It feels really good to be right here. 1059 00:52:56,861 --> 00:52:59,300 Kelly won the world title in 92 and 94. 1060 00:53:00,780 --> 00:53:03,594 The rest of our crew, some of us had won events, but 1061 00:53:03,595 --> 00:53:06,101 no one had even come close to winning a world title. 1062 00:53:06,940 --> 00:53:10,340 And then 95, I was having a really good year. 1063 00:53:11,020 --> 00:53:12,360 I got a win in Japan. 1064 00:53:12,820 --> 00:53:14,160 Kelly won Indonesia. 1065 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,020 I won an event in France. 1066 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,740 It was just this back and forth, seesaw battle throughout the year. 1067 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,620 And then we came straight back to the US Open. 1068 00:53:23,260 --> 00:53:24,800 And me and Kelly made the final. 1069 00:53:24,980 --> 00:53:28,040 And everybody was kind of pulling for me. 1070 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,260 Kelly was just better than everybody almost all the time. 1071 00:53:33,420 --> 00:53:35,660 When he would win, we wouldn't all go run down to the tournament. 1072 00:53:35,661 --> 00:53:36,040 We'd run up to the beach. 1073 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:36,940 He was winning every week. 1074 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:38,036 I was just like, geez, man. 1075 00:53:38,060 --> 00:53:39,900 What question do I get to ask the most? 1076 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:42,740 Uh, where's Kelly Slater? 1077 00:53:43,300 --> 00:53:44,800 He became, like, overly famous. 1078 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:45,760 He was dating Pam. 1079 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:46,700 He was on Baywatch. 1080 00:53:46,780 --> 00:53:48,460 And everybody in the world knew who he was. 1081 00:53:48,700 --> 00:53:50,880 People started, like, wishing the other guy would win. 1082 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,720 And Rob was the only one that really stood a chance. 1083 00:53:53,940 --> 00:53:54,760 You travel with Kelly. 1084 00:53:54,860 --> 00:53:55,920 You play music with him. 1085 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,516 How's it going to be going against him? 1086 00:53:57,540 --> 00:53:58,636 You got to do what you got to do to win. 1087 00:53:58,660 --> 00:53:59,816 That's why we're here, to win, right? 1088 00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:00,680 One more in the water. 1089 00:54:00,780 --> 00:54:02,340 He's just another guy with a jersey on. 1090 00:54:02,720 --> 00:54:04,060 Massive crowd here at Huntington. 1091 00:54:04,061 --> 00:54:06,040 Two greatest four-wave surfers in the world. 1092 00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:07,200 Slater's in front of him. 1093 00:54:07,260 --> 00:54:08,980 Look at him kicking the water in Rob's face. 1094 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:09,700 He gets around the buoy. 1095 00:54:09,820 --> 00:54:10,900 It's messy for that. 1096 00:54:10,980 --> 00:54:12,176 He's going to go on his backhand. 1097 00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:13,496 He gets a little rebound off the wave. 1098 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:20,900 Side-down reentry at the end of it there. 1099 00:54:20,980 --> 00:54:22,800 Oh, Machado just having a great final there. 1100 00:54:22,820 --> 00:54:23,980 This might be his final wave. 1101 00:54:24,020 --> 00:54:25,020 Big snap right there. 1102 00:54:29,660 --> 00:54:31,860 That was a pretty significant win for me. 1103 00:54:32,260 --> 00:54:33,440 Everybody just went nuts. 1104 00:54:46,790 --> 00:54:48,030 Kelly was really good. 1105 00:54:48,050 --> 00:54:50,450 Really super alpha, super intense. 1106 00:54:53,290 --> 00:54:56,050 He did some small things that year that upset Rob, 1107 00:54:56,051 --> 00:54:58,631 where he tucked one of Rob's boards in France. 1108 00:54:59,010 --> 00:55:01,386 Morris made me a couple boards and they felt terrible, both of them. 1109 00:55:01,410 --> 00:55:03,246 I went over to his house and I was like, these boards feel like shit. 1110 00:55:03,270 --> 00:55:04,050 I don't want to ride them. 1111 00:55:04,190 --> 00:55:05,010 You got anything else? 1112 00:55:05,190 --> 00:55:06,610 And he goes, I made three for Rob. 1113 00:55:07,230 --> 00:55:08,230 They're downstairs. 1114 00:55:08,290 --> 00:55:09,826 He goes, you can't ride three boards at once. 1115 00:55:09,850 --> 00:55:11,690 You might as well grab one of those and try it. 1116 00:55:12,730 --> 00:55:14,050 New surfboards are pretty sacred. 1117 00:55:15,890 --> 00:55:18,682 I would have a really hard time taking someone's 1118 00:55:18,683 --> 00:55:20,790 brand new surfboard that was made for them. 1119 00:55:20,850 --> 00:55:22,370 I don't care if there was ten of them. 1120 00:55:24,210 --> 00:55:27,290 It turned really weird because I put my traction pad on, I put my stickers on. 1121 00:55:28,470 --> 00:55:32,070 And Rob came over and he's like, man, fucking take that shit off my board. 1122 00:55:32,510 --> 00:55:33,870 Give me that board back, you know. 1123 00:55:34,190 --> 00:55:35,890 And he was kind of just being a dick. 1124 00:55:36,530 --> 00:55:37,530 I was being a dick. 1125 00:55:38,550 --> 00:55:39,750 I thought he was being a dick. 1126 00:55:40,950 --> 00:55:41,950 That was mine. 1127 00:55:43,450 --> 00:55:46,490 And you took it and rode it and then put your stickers on it and your traction pad. 1128 00:55:46,491 --> 00:55:49,010 And yeah, take it off. 1129 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,830 You should be returning that thing to me brand new. 1130 00:55:53,490 --> 00:55:54,490 How it was. 1131 00:55:55,140 --> 00:55:56,140 I was like, fuck him. 1132 00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:58,610 Take traction off your own board. 1133 00:55:58,790 --> 00:56:00,270 I wasn't doing this to be a dick. 1134 00:56:00,770 --> 00:56:03,830 I was just trying to be nice and take the stuff off. 1135 00:56:03,950 --> 00:56:06,710 But then afterwards I realized, he was really being a jerk, you know. 1136 00:56:07,325 --> 00:56:08,645 So then it kind of pissed me off. 1137 00:56:10,550 --> 00:56:12,970 After that, Rob and Kelly didn't talk for a while. 1138 00:56:13,530 --> 00:56:14,710 It got pretty weird. 1139 00:56:15,910 --> 00:56:19,290 You just feel the tension building up to the last contest. 1140 00:56:19,750 --> 00:56:23,010 The pitch is divided between Kelly Slater and Rob Machado. 1141 00:56:23,011 --> 00:56:25,330 The guys are the best of friends. 1142 00:56:25,370 --> 00:56:28,430 We were going in to the Pipeline Masters in Hawaii. 1143 00:56:28,710 --> 00:56:32,930 And Sonny Garcia from Hawaii has a commanding lead. 1144 00:56:33,070 --> 00:56:35,126 They need me to do shitty, which isn't going to happen. 1145 00:56:35,150 --> 00:56:39,090 And they need to do extremely well, which is going to be hard. 1146 00:56:39,330 --> 00:56:41,030 So I'm pretty confident. 1147 00:56:41,490 --> 00:56:44,390 Sonny was going to bring home the first Hawaiian world title. 1148 00:56:45,670 --> 00:56:47,290 So many people were pulling for Sonny. 1149 00:56:48,210 --> 00:56:49,710 And Aki felt that stress. 1150 00:56:50,310 --> 00:56:51,630 It was for his world title. 1151 00:56:51,690 --> 00:56:52,850 He just had to win that heat. 1152 00:56:53,090 --> 00:56:57,430 I was getting threats from a few Hawaiians saying, if you do win this heat, 1153 00:56:57,570 --> 00:57:00,290 you know, you might not be going home and stuff like that. 1154 00:57:00,410 --> 00:57:01,410 And it was quite scary. 1155 00:57:01,650 --> 00:57:04,090 Masters champ up against Hawaiian favorite Sonny. 1156 00:57:04,091 --> 00:57:05,226 But Sonny was having a shocker. 1157 00:57:05,250 --> 00:57:06,250 He broke his board. 1158 00:57:06,490 --> 00:57:08,170 Had to go to the beach to get another one. 1159 00:57:08,230 --> 00:57:10,830 And while that was happening, I'm sitting out there all by myself. 1160 00:57:11,070 --> 00:57:12,370 And a perfect wave came. 1161 00:57:12,630 --> 00:57:13,190 And what do I do? 1162 00:57:13,310 --> 00:57:13,910 I got to go. 1163 00:57:13,911 --> 00:57:15,150 I can't not go. 1164 00:57:15,370 --> 00:57:16,010 So I went. 1165 00:57:16,150 --> 00:57:17,270 And got a huge barrel. 1166 00:57:17,470 --> 00:57:18,670 And spat out. 1167 00:57:20,050 --> 00:57:21,090 I'm like, oh no. 1168 00:57:21,890 --> 00:57:24,070 Usually you'd be coming out like claiming it. 1169 00:57:24,170 --> 00:57:24,930 But I'm coming out like this. 1170 00:57:24,970 --> 00:57:25,970 I'm like, oh no. 1171 00:57:26,010 --> 00:57:26,850 Five minutes left. 1172 00:57:26,930 --> 00:57:27,930 I need one more wave. 1173 00:57:27,970 --> 00:57:28,590 Poor Mark. 1174 00:57:28,770 --> 00:57:30,410 He's like, take this wave. 1175 00:57:30,490 --> 00:57:31,590 Take any wave you want. 1176 00:57:33,990 --> 00:57:34,990 Couldn't make a wave. 1177 00:57:35,790 --> 00:57:38,230 And I knew right then, I just lost the world title. 1178 00:57:39,330 --> 00:57:41,350 And Aki ends up winning the heat. 1179 00:57:42,090 --> 00:57:43,370 Out of the contest. 1180 00:57:43,371 --> 00:57:45,250 I don't believe what I just saw. 1181 00:57:45,290 --> 00:57:46,970 I was like, what just happened? 1182 00:57:47,270 --> 00:57:49,531 The state of Hawaii is... And 1183 00:57:55,910 --> 00:57:56,390 I was like, wow. 1184 00:57:56,570 --> 00:57:57,230 This is crazy. 1185 00:57:57,290 --> 00:57:59,310 It's almost like this big door just opened up. 1186 00:57:59,770 --> 00:58:01,110 Time to get up. 1187 00:58:01,310 --> 00:58:02,910 This morning of the quarterfinals. 1188 00:58:03,590 --> 00:58:05,130 Are you ready to rock and roll? 1189 00:58:05,370 --> 00:58:06,370 Yes. 1190 00:58:06,730 --> 00:58:09,810 Of course, me and Kelly come up against each other in the semis. 1191 00:58:10,230 --> 00:58:12,770 Number one and two, Rob Machado and Kelly Slater. 1192 00:58:12,890 --> 00:58:13,190 Rob Machado. 1193 00:58:13,290 --> 00:58:14,530 This guy's being on fire. 1194 00:58:14,730 --> 00:58:16,970 Both of them can do any maneuver you can dream of. 1195 00:58:17,070 --> 00:58:20,290 The public knows Rob as being a cruisy, mellow styrofoam. 1196 00:58:20,291 --> 00:58:20,670 He's a stylish guy. 1197 00:58:20,870 --> 00:58:22,150 Oh, Rob's like zen master. 1198 00:58:22,630 --> 00:58:23,290 Yeah, yeah. 1199 00:58:23,330 --> 00:58:24,130 Not when we were growing up. 1200 00:58:24,330 --> 00:58:27,330 He was as cutthroat as any of us. 1201 00:58:27,630 --> 00:58:29,126 Rob and I are just really competitive. 1202 00:58:29,150 --> 00:58:30,990 And I want to beat him equally as bad. 1203 00:58:31,190 --> 00:58:33,630 By Rob making the semifinal, he moved into first place. 1204 00:58:33,690 --> 00:58:34,290 He passed Sonny. 1205 00:58:34,370 --> 00:58:36,610 And I had to beat Rob and then win the final. 1206 00:58:37,850 --> 00:58:39,350 Kelly had to win the final. 1207 00:58:39,530 --> 00:58:43,250 But if I beat Kelly, I win the world title. 1208 00:58:51,460 --> 00:58:53,000 This one cloud blew through. 1209 00:58:53,001 --> 00:58:54,920 And it was just blue sky all of a sudden. 1210 00:58:56,500 --> 00:58:59,100 The waves got really, really good. 1211 00:59:01,180 --> 00:59:04,980 Back then, it was your best three waves in 30 minutes. 1212 00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,600 And I took out my left. 1213 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:12,940 I got a 10. 1214 00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,720 And then Kelly got really deep. 1215 00:59:19,300 --> 00:59:20,380 Kelly got a 10. 1216 00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:21,960 And... 1217 00:59:23,580 --> 00:59:28,437 I mean, up until that point, between us both, that was 1218 00:59:28,438 --> 00:59:31,680 the highest scoring heat in the history of pro surfing. 1219 00:59:35,540 --> 00:59:38,440 And in these conditions, they're the two best we could ever ask for. 1220 00:59:38,460 --> 00:59:39,960 Rob Machado and Kelly Slater. 1221 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:41,560 It came down to the end of the heat. 1222 00:59:42,580 --> 00:59:44,620 Kelly got the perfect left. 1223 00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:45,540 Spit out a two. 1224 00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:46,880 Did this big roundhouse. 1225 00:59:46,980 --> 00:59:48,580 And I hear the crowd go crazy. 1226 00:59:49,260 --> 00:59:50,360 And there's uncertainty. 1227 00:59:50,361 --> 00:59:50,720 And another one. 1228 00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:52,880 Just a perfect 10-foot A-frame. 1229 00:59:53,140 --> 00:59:54,900 And I took off on the thing. 1230 00:59:55,060 --> 00:59:57,420 And I became, like, mesmerized. 1231 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:07,660 And I was just in this bright blue cavern. 1232 01:00:14,220 --> 01:00:15,220 I come out. 1233 01:00:15,510 --> 01:00:18,240 And there's Kelly with his arms up. 1234 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:18,940 You know? 1235 01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:20,360 And... 1236 01:00:23,810 --> 01:00:26,080 I did kind of like this half cut back and almost fell. 1237 01:00:26,081 --> 01:00:28,680 And then we high-fived. 1238 01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,300 I see Rob lying out of a barrel. 1239 01:00:42,150 --> 01:00:44,900 And instead of kicking out to get priority, and he would have won, 1240 01:00:45,725 --> 01:00:48,420 just goes that extra further and high-fives Kelly. 1241 01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,140 And maybe it was Kelly doing that. 1242 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:54,040 Because he's there going, please high-five me. 1243 01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:55,920 And then I'm going to get priority. 1244 01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,260 And the way Kelly thinks, he was probably thinking that. 1245 01:00:58,320 --> 01:00:58,860 For sure. 1246 01:00:59,220 --> 01:01:00,600 That wasn't by accident. 1247 01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,120 Kelly doesn't do shit by accident. 1248 01:01:03,295 --> 01:01:05,585 You don't become one of the most dominant servers 1249 01:01:05,586 --> 01:01:07,540 on the planet by giving people high-fives. 1250 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:08,220 You know? 1251 01:01:08,260 --> 01:01:10,220 I've never seen him ever do that with anyone else. 1252 01:01:11,260 --> 01:01:13,320 I think a lot of people read into that too much. 1253 01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:15,240 I think that was totally genuine. 1254 01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,400 Like, his friend got spit out of a barrel and threw a high-five at each other. 1255 01:01:19,020 --> 01:01:24,320 If you break down the actual high-five, Kelly's thinking, yes, I still have this. 1256 01:01:24,380 --> 01:01:26,300 Like, I guarantee he calculated the numbers. 1257 01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,540 And Rob wastes a bit of time there. 1258 01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:30,600 Definitely a mistake, right? 1259 01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:32,100 By giving the casual high-fives. 1260 01:01:32,101 --> 01:01:33,440 And the paddle back out. 1261 01:01:33,580 --> 01:01:34,660 And Kelly got the priority. 1262 01:01:34,940 --> 01:01:36,380 Meaning he got the next wave. 1263 01:01:38,180 --> 01:01:40,420 I fucking would have ran Kelly's fucking ass over. 1264 01:01:41,275 --> 01:01:42,896 I would have just got him under interference. 1265 01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:44,360 Even if I just clipped him and fell. 1266 01:01:44,780 --> 01:01:46,540 I'm fucking out there to win the world title. 1267 01:01:46,620 --> 01:01:48,500 Fucking high-five you when you get on the beach. 1268 01:01:48,660 --> 01:01:50,020 After I fucking take you down. 1269 01:01:50,940 --> 01:01:54,360 Like, you know, to me that just... You know, I'm a competitor. 1270 01:01:55,100 --> 01:01:56,820 And I know that Kelly is the same way. 1271 01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:01,700 He is the most calculated, smartest, driven server ever. 1272 01:02:03,180 --> 01:02:04,580 They're the reason for everything. 1273 01:02:04,860 --> 01:02:06,180 I would have just run him over. 1274 01:02:06,260 --> 01:02:07,476 Because he was right in the way. 1275 01:02:07,500 --> 01:02:10,720 But Rob fell into the trap and Kelly won the world title. 1276 01:02:10,860 --> 01:02:11,860 Yet again. 1277 01:02:27,510 --> 01:02:28,890 Am I going to run someone over? 1278 01:02:29,330 --> 01:02:30,330 No. 1279 01:02:30,510 --> 01:02:32,050 That's just not in my DNA. 1280 01:02:33,405 --> 01:02:35,230 Maybe that was the downfall for me. 1281 01:02:36,070 --> 01:02:37,070 You know, I wasn't... 1282 01:02:37,305 --> 01:02:40,550 I didn't have that cutthroat mentality. 1283 01:02:40,910 --> 01:02:41,910 You know? 1284 01:02:42,155 --> 01:02:45,130 Was the high-five a tactical maneuver? 1285 01:02:46,130 --> 01:02:47,130 On Kelly's part? 1286 01:02:48,910 --> 01:02:50,670 Kelly is so calculated. 1287 01:02:51,555 --> 01:02:53,970 Like, he knew exactly what he needed to do. 1288 01:02:55,350 --> 01:02:56,010 I don't know. 1289 01:02:56,330 --> 01:02:57,890 I'd love to hear his side of the story. 1290 01:02:58,790 --> 01:02:59,903 It bums me out more than anything to hear 1291 01:02:59,927 --> 01:03:02,430 that from people who are my friends, you know? 1292 01:03:03,290 --> 01:03:04,450 I think it's just outrageous. 1293 01:03:04,830 --> 01:03:06,070 I never thought of that at all. 1294 01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:11,470 And in my memories of thinking about the heat, there was never any intention 1295 01:03:11,471 --> 01:03:14,530 whatsoever other than just to be stoked and express that right then. 1296 01:03:14,970 --> 01:03:17,890 And I don't think it would have mattered so much anyways, because I was trying to 1297 01:03:17,891 --> 01:03:20,211 go right on every wave and Rob was trying to go left, so... 1298 01:03:20,270 --> 01:03:21,750 Priority wouldn't even have mattered. 1299 01:03:24,310 --> 01:03:26,470 A little later, we took like 30 friends out to dinner. 1300 01:03:26,550 --> 01:03:27,270 We were all celebrating. 1301 01:03:27,490 --> 01:03:29,662 The hard thing was Rob was at the same restaurant with 1302 01:03:29,722 --> 01:03:31,910 his family, and, you know, they were all really somber. 1303 01:03:33,190 --> 01:03:34,670 It was a weird predicament. 1304 01:03:39,580 --> 01:03:41,760 That marked the beginning of some dark years. 1305 01:03:49,990 --> 01:03:52,430 It was the morning of February 13th. 1306 01:03:53,330 --> 01:03:54,350 Todd was out in the yard. 1307 01:03:54,370 --> 01:03:57,030 Getting ready to go surfing and I thought he had left. 1308 01:03:57,510 --> 01:04:00,960 Then I heard something and I peeked out the door 1309 01:04:00,961 --> 01:04:05,470 down the hallway and I saw him standing there. 1310 01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:07,120 And he was just standing there. 1311 01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:10,930 He just said, I love you. 1312 01:04:11,580 --> 01:04:12,580 I said, I love you. 1313 01:04:12,790 --> 01:04:18,250 And there's a part of me that almost felt like he knew something. 1314 01:04:18,950 --> 01:04:19,630 I don't know. 1315 01:04:19,710 --> 01:04:22,130 It was just the look on his face that day. 1316 01:04:22,230 --> 01:04:22,630 I'll never forget. 1317 01:04:22,670 --> 01:04:24,581 I can't remember what I had for lunch yesterday, but 1318 01:04:24,582 --> 01:04:26,671 I will never forget the look on his face that morning. 1319 01:04:39,970 --> 01:04:41,050 All came in. 1320 01:04:41,150 --> 01:04:42,890 Three surfers in the surface of the alley. 1321 01:04:42,990 --> 01:04:47,271 Rescue crew pulled 27-year-old Todd Chesser from the waters just south of Waimea Bay. 1322 01:04:48,830 --> 01:04:51,290 Lifeguards found Todd's body after 40 minutes. 1323 01:04:51,291 --> 01:04:53,026 The short break at Waimea was critical at that time. 1324 01:04:53,050 --> 01:04:53,970 60-foot face. 1325 01:04:54,070 --> 01:04:54,990 We tried to give him TPR. 1326 01:04:54,991 --> 01:04:55,991 Too much water. 1327 01:04:56,590 --> 01:04:59,430 Safety officials closed all North Shore beaches. 1328 01:04:59,770 --> 01:05:02,590 He's set to be married to Janet Rollins on August 2nd. 1329 01:05:02,591 --> 01:05:09,150 Tight staff managing the signs Cheeseiano Nelson Club. 1330 01:05:12,620 --> 01:05:17,920 I got a call from this girl at work saying that my son was in trouble. 1331 01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:20,962 I jumped in my car and was praying saying, 1332 01:05:20,963 --> 01:05:24,541 don't let this happen, don't let this be real. 1333 01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:28,240 So, yeah, I went to the hospital. 1334 01:05:29,180 --> 01:05:30,620 And all the friends were out there. 1335 01:05:31,610 --> 01:05:33,050 All the friends were standing there. 1336 01:05:36,180 --> 01:05:42,380 And then the doctor told me, we think your son passed away before the ambulance came. 1337 01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:47,980 And I said to the doctor, I said, well, that must be really hard for you to 1338 01:05:47,981 --> 01:05:50,780 tell people this that happened to their loved one. 1339 01:05:51,170 --> 01:05:52,410 It must be really hard for you. 1340 01:05:53,110 --> 01:05:55,192 I was feeling that compassion for that 1341 01:05:55,204 --> 01:05:57,621 person and trying not to think about myself. 1342 01:05:58,515 --> 01:06:01,200 But yeah, it was the worst day of my life. 1343 01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,420 I remember just looking at grown men just falling. 1344 01:06:31,140 --> 01:06:32,140 Holy shit. 1345 01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:34,600 Todd's gone. 1346 01:06:37,500 --> 01:06:40,460 It was just like losing a family member. 1347 01:06:41,540 --> 01:06:46,560 He was the unkillable, unfadable, unscareable dude. 1348 01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:48,160 You can't kill him. 1349 01:06:49,180 --> 01:06:51,160 Certain guys just couldn't be taken down. 1350 01:06:51,660 --> 01:06:54,680 He was like a giant was gone. 1351 01:06:55,540 --> 01:06:58,740 At first, it didn't make sense. 1352 01:06:59,020 --> 01:07:00,600 It didn't even really register. 1353 01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:11,720 And then it just hit me, like someone had taken a baseball bat and just swung it at 1354 01:07:11,721 --> 01:07:15,640 my stomach as hard as they could and wouldn't stop. 1355 01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:23,360 Todd was like a mentor for a lot of younger guys. 1356 01:07:23,820 --> 01:07:24,840 He's an incredible guy. 1357 01:07:25,780 --> 01:07:27,460 I just wanted to say, geez, we'll miss you. 1358 01:07:28,460 --> 01:07:32,120 At his funeral, I'm sitting next to his fiancée and all these people, and I just 1359 01:07:32,121 --> 01:07:33,980 remember going, fuck, this is just too much. 1360 01:07:34,140 --> 01:07:35,140 This is too much. 1361 01:07:37,020 --> 01:07:40,960 Everyone here was who we wanted to be at our wedding. 1362 01:07:43,220 --> 01:07:45,480 I mean, fuck. 1363 01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:47,080 It's hard, man. 1364 01:07:47,081 --> 01:07:49,020 I was so worried about Janet. 1365 01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:50,400 I was so worried about Jeannie. 1366 01:07:55,590 --> 01:08:03,140 I almost felt guilty for being so sad because she had lost so much already in 1367 01:08:03,141 --> 01:08:05,900 her life, you know, with Todd's dad passing away. 1368 01:08:06,835 --> 01:08:09,223 And Todd was like her everything and just felt 1369 01:08:09,224 --> 01:08:12,341 like too much to have to deal with for her. 1370 01:08:14,420 --> 01:08:20,060 When I saw what she was going through, I realized what I was supposed to do, 1371 01:08:20,250 --> 01:08:21,700 and it was be there for her. 1372 01:08:23,015 --> 01:08:25,380 And I told my mom, I'm going to Fiji in six days. 1373 01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:26,960 I'm going to take her. 1374 01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,284 We stayed in a little hut, and she just would cry 1375 01:08:32,285 --> 01:08:35,460 all night, and she just kept yelling at me, why? 1376 01:08:35,740 --> 01:08:36,340 Like, why? 1377 01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:37,520 Why is this happening? 1378 01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:39,040 I didn't know what to say. 1379 01:08:42,870 --> 01:08:45,290 On that trip, she brought Todd's last board. 1380 01:08:46,370 --> 01:08:49,310 And one day, we paddle out, to a place called Restaurants. 1381 01:08:49,590 --> 01:08:50,630 It was completely flat. 1382 01:08:51,210 --> 01:08:54,430 And then out of nowhere, a four-foot wave coming off the reef. 1383 01:08:54,830 --> 01:08:56,810 She catches it, gets barreled on his board. 1384 01:08:56,870 --> 01:08:57,290 She rips. 1385 01:08:57,370 --> 01:08:58,430 Going down the line. 1386 01:08:58,490 --> 01:08:59,530 I get the next one. 1387 01:08:59,590 --> 01:08:59,970 We're flying. 1388 01:09:00,130 --> 01:09:01,030 She's screaming at me. 1389 01:09:01,070 --> 01:09:01,630 I'm screaming at her. 1390 01:09:01,690 --> 01:09:02,806 We surf for an hour and a half. 1391 01:09:02,830 --> 01:09:05,770 We come to the beach, and everybody that was on the island was watching. 1392 01:09:07,495 --> 01:09:09,566 People came in from Cloud Break, and I go, was it bombing? 1393 01:09:09,590 --> 01:09:10,590 They're all, it was flat. 1394 01:09:11,345 --> 01:09:14,910 It gives me chicken skin because if you surf, you know how rare that was. 1395 01:09:15,030 --> 01:09:18,430 And she was on his board, and I swear it was like he was saying bye. 1396 01:09:25,830 --> 01:09:27,550 She didn't sleep for seven nights. 1397 01:09:27,630 --> 01:09:29,490 That night was the only night she slept. 1398 01:09:29,770 --> 01:09:30,770 The only night. 1399 01:09:32,370 --> 01:09:35,430 That day, Jeannie got a goodbye hug from her son. 1400 01:09:35,750 --> 01:09:38,310 I thought it was just one of the most special moments of my life. 1401 01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:53,056 I'll always be thankful to Benji for taking me on that 1402 01:09:53,057 --> 01:09:55,540 trip because it was the thing that I needed to heal. 1403 01:09:58,490 --> 01:10:01,880 But Benji had a really tough time for a while after that. 1404 01:10:04,170 --> 01:10:07,440 After Chester passed away, I hated surfing. 1405 01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:10,160 It was tough. 1406 01:10:13,950 --> 01:10:15,550 I got into drinking more. 1407 01:10:15,750 --> 01:10:18,090 Tons of cocaine and ecstasy was our thing. 1408 01:10:18,370 --> 01:10:21,290 But every time I woke up, I realized he was still gone. 1409 01:10:22,590 --> 01:10:23,910 I was definitely depressed. 1410 01:10:24,190 --> 01:10:25,210 I was suicidal. 1411 01:10:26,670 --> 01:10:29,410 So I checked into this place called Inpatient Whatever. 1412 01:10:29,411 --> 01:10:33,330 There was all these people that were on smack, heroin, all this stuff. 1413 01:10:33,430 --> 01:10:35,250 I just needed, I needed to talk to people. 1414 01:10:35,350 --> 01:10:35,950 I needed help. 1415 01:10:36,010 --> 01:10:37,010 Like, I wanted answers. 1416 01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:44,380 Men have the hardest time with feelings and emotion. 1417 01:10:45,165 --> 01:10:47,060 A lot of macho, a lot of ego. 1418 01:10:47,740 --> 01:10:50,760 So you never really go, let's talk about this. 1419 01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,101 In our group of friends, I don't know if we ever actually 1420 01:10:58,201 --> 01:11:00,900 sat around and said, hey man, how you doing with that? 1421 01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:02,420 Shut up. 1422 01:11:02,421 --> 01:11:04,720 It was just something I wanted to forget. 1423 01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:06,560 And I think that goes for a lot of us. 1424 01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:13,020 We felt like Todd had been taken from us personally. 1425 01:11:14,180 --> 01:11:16,280 Not just our group, but like us personally. 1426 01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:19,220 I felt like I had been taken from me. 1427 01:11:20,700 --> 01:11:23,880 My way of dealing with it was I just felt more comfortable by myself. 1428 01:11:26,480 --> 01:11:28,200 I just didn't want to talk about it anymore. 1429 01:11:29,500 --> 01:11:31,100 I didn't want to think about it anymore. 1430 01:11:33,980 --> 01:11:36,408 If we would have sat down and just like talked it out, 1431 01:11:36,409 --> 01:11:39,100 it would have helped a lot of us process it better. 1432 01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,900 We were kind of worried about showing weakness. 1433 01:11:44,820 --> 01:11:46,740 You don't want to show your competitive weakness. 1434 01:11:51,460 --> 01:11:54,760 There is underlying tensions from competing on the world tour against each 1435 01:11:54,761 --> 01:11:58,460 other, and people were starting companies that didn't involve everybody. 1436 01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,200 We were all angry and looking for someone to blame. 1437 01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:06,952 It was the start of the change from it's 1438 01:12:06,964 --> 01:12:10,261 all fun and games to it all getting serious. 1439 01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:15,000 Money started coming into play. 1440 01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:17,560 Managers came into play during this time. 1441 01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:19,903 I had many arguments with Kelly's manager 1442 01:12:19,904 --> 01:12:23,481 because he wanted money to use him in my movies. 1443 01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:29,120 Soon after, Kelly's manager was also Rob's manager and Kalani's manager. 1444 01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:33,160 And that's when I said, fine, I'm not going to shoot him. 1445 01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:40,477 In February of 1997, Todd Chesser died and then that 1446 01:12:40,478 --> 01:12:43,461 same year was the last time we made a film together. 1447 01:12:48,020 --> 01:12:50,420 I remember Taylor telling us that he was going to be done. 1448 01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:53,123 And I was feeling a sadness like we were part of something 1449 01:12:53,124 --> 01:12:55,141 really special and that it was the end of an era. 1450 01:12:56,860 --> 01:13:01,300 The catalyst that brought us together, filming with Taylor, that was gone. 1451 01:13:01,740 --> 01:13:05,124 And really, people were just trying to take care 1452 01:13:05,125 --> 01:13:07,941 of themselves, looking after their own interests. 1453 01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:10,736 I guess people can get pretty ruthless when money's on the line. 1454 01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:13,200 So I've kind of put the money out of my head. 1455 01:13:13,300 --> 01:13:17,240 Chesser would call you a sellout if you were becoming too business-headed. 1456 01:13:17,700 --> 01:13:20,622 He made sure that you're surfing for the right reasons 1457 01:13:20,623 --> 01:13:23,081 and you're part of the group for the right reasons. 1458 01:13:23,370 --> 01:13:26,393 He enjoyed all of us hanging out together way 1459 01:13:26,394 --> 01:13:30,001 more than making a dollar or being famous. 1460 01:13:31,140 --> 01:13:35,220 Todd definitely never let financial upside influence our decision-making. 1461 01:13:37,450 --> 01:13:38,920 When Todd died, that was gone. 1462 01:13:41,090 --> 01:13:43,290 Soon afterwards, a lot of us started going our own ways. 1463 01:13:48,850 --> 01:13:51,568 At some point, you grow up and stop living at your friend's 1464 01:13:51,569 --> 01:13:53,830 house in San Diego going to punk rock shows, you know? 1465 01:13:54,590 --> 01:13:56,500 At some point, you start to figure out, yeah, we 1466 01:13:56,540 --> 01:13:58,630 love all these guys, but, like, my life's this thing. 1467 01:13:58,750 --> 01:14:00,770 And, you know, not everyone fits into this thing. 1468 01:14:02,570 --> 01:14:05,561 And for me, the competition shifted to being 1469 01:14:05,562 --> 01:14:08,971 more important than camaraderie in those years. 1470 01:14:10,970 --> 01:14:14,310 That was my way to focus my, I don't know, sadness. 1471 01:14:14,311 --> 01:14:19,150 After Todd passed away, winning competitions wouldn't address the pain. 1472 01:14:19,290 --> 01:14:20,710 It would just fuel my direction. 1473 01:14:22,630 --> 01:14:24,870 It gave me a sense of pride in myself. 1474 01:14:25,950 --> 01:14:27,130 People noticing you. 1475 01:14:28,750 --> 01:14:32,230 It makes you feel good, however shallow or deep that could be. 1476 01:14:34,190 --> 01:14:36,730 So I went on this absolute tear competitively. 1477 01:14:36,910 --> 01:14:39,670 I thought in my head, there's no reason I can't win every contest. 1478 01:14:41,690 --> 01:14:42,890 I wanted it all, you know? 1479 01:14:43,230 --> 01:14:44,910 I just wanted to win absolutely everything. 1480 01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:01,860 For Kelly, whenever he had a breakup or problems with family or whatever, 1481 01:15:02,020 --> 01:15:05,500 he was able to channel that into annihilating people underwater. 1482 01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:16,005 We were all competitive, but if you're gonna be a 1483 01:15:16,006 --> 01:15:18,460 world champion, you gotta be frickin' an animal. 1484 01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:25,124 Kelly had this idea in his mind that he wanted to 1485 01:15:25,125 --> 01:15:27,880 break Mark Richards' record and win five in a row. 1486 01:15:28,180 --> 01:15:30,900 And we're the only ones that we're gonna get in his way. 1487 01:15:34,540 --> 01:15:38,080 Competing against your friend and holding him off waves or keeping priority, 1488 01:15:38,860 --> 01:15:42,020 to me, it's against the art of surfing. 1489 01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:47,120 Deep down inside, I probably knew I wasn't ruthless enough to win a world title 1490 01:15:47,121 --> 01:15:51,640 because I'm not comfortable with doing the dirty work that needs to be done. 1491 01:15:52,100 --> 01:15:54,382 You bang boards, you try and push each other out of 1492 01:15:54,383 --> 01:15:56,841 position, every now and again you get the elbow in the head. 1493 01:15:56,940 --> 01:15:58,140 This is what we call hassling. 1494 01:15:58,300 --> 01:16:01,340 There's a lot of guys who are amazing surfers but such mellow characters that 1495 01:16:01,341 --> 01:16:04,480 they couldn't bring themselves to do that and so their careers are very short. 1496 01:16:06,900 --> 01:16:09,400 You have to be a bit of an asshole to win. 1497 01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,520 And I didn't have that killer instinct in that way. 1498 01:16:13,165 --> 01:16:15,725 The last couple years on tour, I was like, dude, what am I doing? 1499 01:16:16,270 --> 01:16:19,140 I was pretty quick to realize that this isn't for me anymore. 1500 01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:23,840 When I was in heats, I knew that I should have been achieving more. 1501 01:16:24,020 --> 01:16:26,680 I was constantly blaming the judges for shitty results. 1502 01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:31,940 And then all of a sudden, breaking my foot, I was like, just, I'm out of here. 1503 01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:36,600 The competitive thing was a real cutthroat business. 1504 01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:39,320 You're only as good as your rating at the end of the year. 1505 01:16:39,980 --> 01:16:43,920 I had to learn to be able to sit on people with priority and use tactics. 1506 01:16:46,860 --> 01:16:49,580 And I felt like this is not where I'm supposed to be. 1507 01:16:51,900 --> 01:16:53,855 When I was on tour, people were talking about 1508 01:16:53,856 --> 01:16:55,580 the next Kelly Slater and shit like that. 1509 01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:57,860 And I was like, I'm not that guy. 1510 01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:02,740 I wasn't ready to go to those dark places to win that world championship. 1511 01:17:03,940 --> 01:17:05,260 Nobody wants it like Kelly. 1512 01:17:05,500 --> 01:17:08,820 He's such a gnarly, gnarly savage. 1513 01:17:09,180 --> 01:17:11,331 This controversial play by Slater forced an 1514 01:17:11,411 --> 01:17:13,920 interference penalty on Besshia, costing him the win. 1515 01:17:13,921 --> 01:17:15,620 Kelly panels up over Shane's back. 1516 01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:16,400 Gives him interference. 1517 01:17:16,620 --> 01:17:18,256 Surfers don't like it, but it is allowed. 1518 01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:19,800 Almost like cheating within the rules. 1519 01:17:19,940 --> 01:17:22,240 I despise people that do that kind of stuff. 1520 01:17:22,440 --> 01:17:25,561 After the heat with Kelly at the Pipe Masters in 1521 01:17:25,562 --> 01:17:28,361 95, I started to struggle with being as competitive. 1522 01:17:29,100 --> 01:17:30,500 I lost motivation. 1523 01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,660 I just got really salty at the whole tour. 1524 01:17:34,420 --> 01:17:36,500 People got that vibe from me. 1525 01:17:36,860 --> 01:17:42,360 Then when I broke my hand, all the surfers had this vote for the injury wildcards. 1526 01:17:42,965 --> 01:17:45,996 If you have a really bad injury and you're not able to compete during the year, 1527 01:17:46,020 --> 01:17:49,800 then you can apply for an injury wildcard to qualify for the next year on the tour. 1528 01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:51,900 So I was applying for an injury wildcard. 1529 01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:53,760 Rob was applying for an injury wildcard. 1530 01:17:54,420 --> 01:17:55,300 It's super awkward. 1531 01:17:55,380 --> 01:17:57,980 You go up and plead your case to all the guys who are on the tour. 1532 01:17:58,340 --> 01:17:59,540 And then everybody votes. 1533 01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:05,520 Here we are voting between Rob and Shane Dorian. 1534 01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:06,840 Two friends. 1535 01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:08,736 There's only one guy who's going to get it. 1536 01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:11,580 The grumblings around town were that Rob's over the tour. 1537 01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:13,080 He doesn't care about it anymore. 1538 01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:15,580 So they voted for Shane. 1539 01:18:16,940 --> 01:18:17,940 Yeah. 1540 01:18:19,215 --> 01:18:20,215 I was done. 1541 01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:21,720 I'm off the tour. 1542 01:18:26,190 --> 01:18:29,850 Going through the transition of being a professional surfer to what's your next 1543 01:18:29,851 --> 01:18:33,110 chapter in life, there's no books out there to tell you how to do it. 1544 01:18:34,150 --> 01:18:38,770 When it happened to me, I went from a very busy life and busy schedule to all of a 1545 01:18:38,771 --> 01:18:42,650 sudden grinding to a halt and being at home and just listening to the quiet. 1546 01:18:44,610 --> 01:18:47,770 It started to turn very dark and I became depressed. 1547 01:18:50,950 --> 01:18:54,691 After I'd quit the tour, I ended up working for a 1548 01:18:54,692 --> 01:18:57,471 biotech company helping for marketing and trade shows. 1549 01:18:58,210 --> 01:19:00,010 Wearing a suit and tie and shit every day. 1550 01:19:01,250 --> 01:19:02,250 Behind a desk. 1551 01:19:03,510 --> 01:19:05,190 So I was like, this is heavy. 1552 01:19:05,330 --> 01:19:07,750 Like, what am I doing? 1553 01:19:10,190 --> 01:19:12,350 After I was voted off the tour, my son and 1554 01:19:12,351 --> 01:19:14,931 I and my sponsor at the time went bankrupt. 1555 01:19:15,590 --> 01:19:17,150 I thought it was the end of the world. 1556 01:19:17,410 --> 01:19:18,410 I'm not on tour. 1557 01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:19,840 I don't have a sponsor. 1558 01:19:20,970 --> 01:19:21,970 Holy crap. 1559 01:19:22,130 --> 01:19:23,130 What am I gonna do? 1560 01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:35,940 After Rob got off tour, he was a broken man. 1561 01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:39,407 A couple years later, he came to Bali and lived 1562 01:19:39,408 --> 01:19:42,381 in my house for six months being really negative. 1563 01:19:43,630 --> 01:19:48,040 And so we came up with a movie that we could do together to help get him back. 1564 01:19:48,700 --> 01:19:49,700 In a positive zone. 1565 01:19:55,930 --> 01:19:58,090 These kids here play this game with rocks. 1566 01:19:58,510 --> 01:19:59,850 They throw one up in the air. 1567 01:20:00,030 --> 01:20:01,970 They pick up the other ones before it falls. 1568 01:20:05,210 --> 01:20:06,830 I'm not really sure how you win. 1569 01:20:08,890 --> 01:20:09,970 But maybe you don't. 1570 01:20:12,570 --> 01:20:13,570 Maybe you just play. 1571 01:20:15,250 --> 01:20:17,206 At the start of it he was in a really bad place 1572 01:20:17,207 --> 01:20:20,011 and at the end of it it was the old Rob again. 1573 01:20:24,890 --> 01:20:26,050 It was just like old times. 1574 01:20:26,790 --> 01:20:31,310 But now, he was reinventing himself and becoming a free surfer. 1575 01:20:31,570 --> 01:20:33,847 Trying to make a living on just sponsor money 1576 01:20:33,848 --> 01:20:36,751 without the need to be competing on the world tour. 1577 01:20:37,770 --> 01:20:40,670 And the Drifter helped with his sponsorships so that 1578 01:20:40,671 --> 01:20:43,470 he could actually go on trips and make surf movies. 1579 01:20:44,670 --> 01:20:49,210 Taylor Steele is responsible for this new phase of my life and my career. 1580 01:20:50,470 --> 01:20:51,650 I'm beyond grateful. 1581 01:20:52,750 --> 01:20:54,070 He revived me. 1582 01:20:55,490 --> 01:20:56,490 He made me who I am. 1583 01:20:57,510 --> 01:21:02,130 At the time if you stopped being on the tour you vanished into thin air. 1584 01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:03,320 Like that was it for you. 1585 01:21:04,830 --> 01:21:09,630 Rob was the first person who ever left the tour who had success immediately. 1586 01:21:10,770 --> 01:21:14,970 So I went to my sponsors and said Rob left the tour and look at him. 1587 01:21:16,630 --> 01:21:20,130 And I quit the tour with the intention to surf really big waves. 1588 01:21:21,210 --> 01:21:24,470 There was definitely a part of that that had to do with doing it for Todd too. 1589 01:21:29,740 --> 01:21:33,640 On a subconscious level I felt like I needed to surf big waves so that Todd 1590 01:21:33,641 --> 01:21:35,321 would be proud of me even when he was gone. 1591 01:21:55,430 --> 01:21:57,970 Shane Dorian the greatest big wave surfer of all time. 1592 01:21:58,130 --> 01:21:59,410 Don't think you can debate that. 1593 01:22:00,770 --> 01:22:03,990 Shane has really focused on the traditional big wave riding approach. 1594 01:22:04,710 --> 01:22:09,230 And that's to paddle in with your bare arms into a 60 foot wave and get barreled. 1595 01:22:11,430 --> 01:22:13,590 For some people it's getting to the top of Everest. 1596 01:22:13,890 --> 01:22:15,330 For me it's big waves. 1597 01:22:16,570 --> 01:22:21,230 The ocean is throwing everything at you that it can and in that fleeting moment 1598 01:22:21,231 --> 01:22:25,030 you feel like every single experience in your whole surfing life comes together for 1599 01:22:25,031 --> 01:22:26,711 you to ride that wave absolutely perfectly. 1600 01:22:27,350 --> 01:22:29,410 It's happened maybe three times in my life. 1601 01:22:29,710 --> 01:22:31,030 That's what keeps me coming back. 1602 01:22:33,490 --> 01:22:34,832 Rob leaving and having success definitely 1603 01:22:34,833 --> 01:22:37,971 inspired me to do what I really wanted to do. 1604 01:22:40,090 --> 01:22:45,590 At that time in my life I was traveling around the world surfing and I remember at 1605 01:22:45,591 --> 01:22:51,070 one point I flew to Australia I walked into this restaurant and I looked over and 1606 01:22:51,071 --> 01:22:55,398 Kelly was sitting in the corner by himself and he was pale 1607 01:22:55,399 --> 01:23:00,570 and he looked 10 pounds lighter like in the darkest place. 1608 01:23:02,820 --> 01:23:04,540 The contest was meant to start the next day. 1609 01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:07,240 I remember him telling me like I don't want to surf right now. 1610 01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:11,410 And I was like don't. 1611 01:23:11,810 --> 01:23:12,810 Go home. 1612 01:23:13,700 --> 01:23:15,450 And fix whatever you need to fix. 1613 01:23:19,010 --> 01:23:21,830 He withdrew from the contest and got on a plane and left. 1614 01:23:27,950 --> 01:23:32,610 Through my most competitive and passionate years I had these ultimate highs. 1615 01:23:34,210 --> 01:23:37,191 But there was no way to have those without having 1616 01:23:37,192 --> 01:23:40,271 these lows that other people can't even understand. 1617 01:23:42,530 --> 01:23:44,386 I went through a pretty gnarly depression that 1618 01:23:44,387 --> 01:23:47,191 I think a lot of my friends weren't aware of. 1619 01:23:49,510 --> 01:23:54,160 And then after I won my sixth world title and beat Mark 1620 01:23:54,161 --> 01:23:57,630 Richards' record I just literally broke down and started crying. 1621 01:24:00,230 --> 01:24:01,590 I had a real epiphany. 1622 01:24:01,930 --> 01:24:04,470 That competitiveness was taking a toll on me. 1623 01:24:04,590 --> 01:24:06,453 It was really sapping me of enjoying what I 1624 01:24:06,454 --> 01:24:09,111 was doing and detracting from my friendships. 1625 01:24:10,850 --> 01:24:15,390 And then my mother called me and said that my dad had cancer. 1626 01:24:15,790 --> 01:24:17,610 And that was the breaking point right there. 1627 01:24:20,150 --> 01:24:22,933 I had a few nights I literally cried myself to sleep 1628 01:24:22,934 --> 01:24:25,710 because I was so angry and confused about my dad. 1629 01:24:28,930 --> 01:24:31,990 Like, why would my dad drink so much and cheat on my mom so much? 1630 01:24:32,090 --> 01:24:38,350 And I don't think my father came to one world tour event I ever surfed. 1631 01:24:39,250 --> 01:24:43,090 But then I came to Hawaii for the Pipe Masters when he was dying. 1632 01:24:43,950 --> 01:24:45,850 I remember surfing the finals and he was crying. 1633 01:24:46,070 --> 01:24:47,166 And I said, what are you crying for? 1634 01:24:47,190 --> 01:24:49,070 He was just like, man, I'm just so proud of you. 1635 01:24:49,635 --> 01:24:51,150 I'm like, sorry I didn't win. 1636 01:24:51,250 --> 01:24:52,466 I really wanted to win for your dad. 1637 01:24:52,490 --> 01:24:54,190 He's like, no, you won. 1638 01:24:54,330 --> 01:24:55,690 He's like, don't worry about that. 1639 01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:57,200 He's like, I'm just so proud of you. 1640 01:25:00,190 --> 01:25:00,710 I don't know. 1641 01:25:00,770 --> 01:25:01,370 It was just tough. 1642 01:25:01,630 --> 01:25:09,370 You know, my dad's dying of cancer and can barely take care of himself. 1643 01:25:09,630 --> 01:25:12,250 And Ross lets him come sit at the house. 1644 01:25:12,251 --> 01:25:13,251 I don't know. 1645 01:25:15,430 --> 01:25:23,430 It's, I don't think I've ever shown him a real appreciation for that. 1646 01:25:27,500 --> 01:25:33,180 After his dad died, it was quite beautiful when Kelly reached out to a lot of us and 1647 01:25:33,181 --> 01:25:35,720 had real, sincere conversations with us all. 1648 01:25:37,420 --> 01:25:42,160 I had never seen him so stripped bare emotionally. 1649 01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:43,020 That was tough. 1650 01:25:43,145 --> 01:25:45,440 Obviously, in life, you've got to fight it. 1651 01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:49,160 I remember Kelly and I got together and it was like a full therapy session. 1652 01:25:51,060 --> 01:25:55,733 We just talked about memories and good times and 1653 01:25:55,734 --> 01:26:00,740 it was so refreshing to be able to just be friends. 1654 01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:06,500 My father was super abusive. 1655 01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:09,080 That was the reason I went to rehab, 100%. 1656 01:26:09,660 --> 01:26:11,863 A lot of people went the other way but Kelly 1657 01:26:11,864 --> 01:26:14,541 stayed there for 30 days just to hang out with me. 1658 01:26:16,100 --> 01:26:19,400 Kelly worked on all his stuff before I went through mine. 1659 01:26:19,900 --> 01:26:23,200 So, when I went through mine, he took care of me. 1660 01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:28,400 We would have these talks for hours at night about, you know, life, fathers, 1661 01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:30,060 why, why am I feeling this? 1662 01:26:30,420 --> 01:26:34,800 Kelly taught me hanging on to animosity is only ruining my life. 1663 01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:35,920 It's not ruining his life. 1664 01:26:37,300 --> 01:26:40,860 So, I made amends with my dad and I stopped doing drugs all at once. 1665 01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:48,340 Every situation in your life you have your pride and ego or you have love. 1666 01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:50,680 If you choose this, it's always gonna be bad and 1667 01:26:50,681 --> 01:26:53,021 if you choose this, it's always gonna be good. 1668 01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:58,975 I learned all that from my smart-ass fucking Slater friend 1669 01:26:58,976 --> 01:27:01,880 and I couldn't, I couldn't, I couldn't think of enough. 1670 01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:07,040 Everyone in the world is fighting the same battle. 1671 01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:12,861 People are all suffering from a lack of connecting with love with people around us. 1672 01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:18,300 Personally, I had to wake up to myself and see that who I thought I was maybe wasn't 1673 01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:19,480 all I was cracked up to be. 1674 01:27:21,940 --> 01:27:25,900 Kelly kinda did lose the plot a little bit but he came back in the biggest way ever. 1675 01:27:27,060 --> 01:27:31,400 It's pretty neat to see our clique how we bring people back from the dead. 1676 01:27:33,900 --> 01:27:37,540 When I was working for the biotech company, it was just tearing me up inside. 1677 01:27:39,140 --> 01:27:42,620 I definitely fit a wetsuit vibe more than a suit-suit vibe. 1678 01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:46,288 And I was really lucky that Benji, Kelly, Rob 1679 01:27:46,289 --> 01:27:49,241 and Ross helped me get all my sponsors back. 1680 01:27:49,780 --> 01:27:53,060 They made all the calls behind the scenes that I only heard about afterwards. 1681 01:27:53,380 --> 01:27:54,100 Hey, you know what? 1682 01:27:54,260 --> 01:27:56,040 Like, someone's gonna call me. 1683 01:27:56,060 --> 01:27:56,560 That's pretty heavy. 1684 01:27:56,660 --> 01:27:58,580 You got some pretty heavy friends in high places. 1685 01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:00,360 I love Kalani. 1686 01:28:00,580 --> 01:28:00,940 Yeah. 1687 01:28:01,180 --> 01:28:03,140 So I might have had a conversation here and there. 1688 01:28:04,540 --> 01:28:05,160 I did. 1689 01:28:05,260 --> 01:28:06,496 I helped him a little bit get in the door. 1690 01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:08,920 I mean, this Kalani Rob, he's way better than me. 1691 01:28:09,260 --> 01:28:11,640 And I remember going, you should have the paycheck, not me. 1692 01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:12,800 This is ridiculous. 1693 01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:17,880 I made a phone call and I just said, let's sponsor Kalani. 1694 01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:21,680 He's just too talented to be behind a desk. 1695 01:28:28,060 --> 01:28:34,480 As a kid, whatever I dreamed to be, I've so outdone that. 1696 01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:37,160 And the only reason truly why I'm still here 1697 01:28:37,161 --> 01:28:39,901 doing anything is because of my friends, for sure. 1698 01:28:40,820 --> 01:28:42,340 I wouldn't be here without them. 1699 01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:50,500 If you guys should have turned out bad, considering the upbringing they had, 1700 01:28:50,501 --> 01:28:55,900 but the group and having that support around, guys saying, hey, don't do that 1701 01:28:55,901 --> 01:28:59,520 shit, kind of slapped some guys around that could have gone the wrong way. 1702 01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:02,720 I mean, I was no exception. 1703 01:29:07,370 --> 01:29:09,230 I was on the world tour for 20 years. 1704 01:29:10,570 --> 01:29:15,830 And I could not get over that hump of, I didn't win. 1705 01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:24,380 Taylor took himself so serious. 1706 01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:29,720 When he would not win, world titles, just to watch how it was eaten away at the 1707 01:29:29,721 --> 01:29:33,500 guy, I couldn't be around him because I'm so opposite of Taylor. 1708 01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:37,280 And then one day, he finally just let it go. 1709 01:29:38,460 --> 01:29:39,820 I'm never gonna win a world title. 1710 01:29:40,460 --> 01:29:41,460 I'm done. 1711 01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:43,100 And then he can actually live. 1712 01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:48,700 My friends helped me realize surfing doesn't define me as a person. 1713 01:29:51,100 --> 01:29:53,060 There's what you do and then there's who you are. 1714 01:29:53,140 --> 01:29:55,540 And that's the difference that I didn't know back then. 1715 01:29:57,360 --> 01:29:59,700 I got a little bit of bingy blood injected in me. 1716 01:30:00,900 --> 01:30:03,420 And I got more happy just being who I am. 1717 01:30:12,410 --> 01:30:14,650 It's an emotional rollercoaster, this career. 1718 01:30:14,970 --> 01:30:16,130 You lose more than you win. 1719 01:30:18,150 --> 01:30:20,090 But it's all about the state of mind you're in. 1720 01:30:22,310 --> 01:30:24,430 Because I've seen guys win contests and not enjoy it. 1721 01:30:24,450 --> 01:30:26,450 And I've seen guys get third and wear a static. 1722 01:30:26,650 --> 01:30:27,650 So who won? 1723 01:30:28,870 --> 01:30:29,630 Who's the most fun? 1724 01:30:29,631 --> 01:30:31,231 To me, it's the one having the most fun. 1725 01:30:32,610 --> 01:30:34,110 And that's what I loved about Todd. 1726 01:30:36,270 --> 01:30:37,450 It was about surfing. 1727 01:30:37,650 --> 01:30:39,230 For the pure love of surfing. 1728 01:30:43,230 --> 01:30:47,970 People say that Taylor and I paved the way for the professional free surfer. 1729 01:30:48,350 --> 01:30:52,410 But honestly to me, Todd was the original free surfer. 1730 01:30:59,090 --> 01:31:02,358 When I look back at it now, each one of us has 1731 01:31:02,359 --> 01:31:06,231 kind of taken a part of Todd and his legacy. 1732 01:31:16,620 --> 01:31:19,840 With Shane becoming the best big wave surfer in the world. 1733 01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:25,100 Kelly reconnecting the whole group, being that catalyst. 1734 01:31:25,340 --> 01:31:26,620 It brought us all back together. 1735 01:31:28,020 --> 01:31:29,020 Christmas is 14. 1736 01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:31,520 I was like, I'd love to do something for all my friends. 1737 01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:34,924 I just sent this message out and I just said, even 1738 01:31:35,024 --> 01:31:37,340 though we don't see each other, I love all you fuckers. 1739 01:31:38,220 --> 01:31:41,320 Ironically, Kelly's always been the one that was crawling into his own shell. 1740 01:31:41,480 --> 01:31:45,600 But he was the one that created the text thread that's kind of grown to this 1741 01:31:45,601 --> 01:31:48,240 wonderful thing where we all keep in touch daily. 1742 01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:52,640 It really shows how much we crave to connect with each other. 1743 01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:55,900 So one day, I texted everybody. 1744 01:31:56,180 --> 01:31:58,720 I said, let's get a momentum reunion together. 1745 01:31:59,920 --> 01:32:03,460 That was the first time we all got together in so long. 1746 01:32:03,900 --> 01:32:07,840 It was just like, we never left. 1747 01:32:08,140 --> 01:32:08,740 Oh, yeah! 1748 01:32:08,940 --> 01:32:09,940 Bring it! 1749 01:32:12,590 --> 01:32:14,860 Now that the competition's been taken out of our 1750 01:32:14,861 --> 01:32:17,790 friendship, it brought us back to being kids again. 1751 01:32:18,770 --> 01:32:21,490 It was like being there 25 years ago. 1752 01:32:24,030 --> 01:32:27,030 And I don't care if we have the same blood running through our veins or not. 1753 01:32:27,770 --> 01:32:29,810 To me, friendship is thicker than blood. 1754 01:32:32,130 --> 01:32:36,130 It's the closeness that makes you connected to another spirit. 1755 01:32:39,390 --> 01:32:42,910 As a whole, I look at my life, I've been given so much. 1756 01:32:43,670 --> 01:32:47,156 And thankfully, I sought out people I wanted 1757 01:32:47,157 --> 01:32:50,991 to be around who were better people than I was. 1758 01:32:51,070 --> 01:32:55,190 And those people have rubbed off on me in a lot of ways and still do, every day. 1759 01:32:56,170 --> 01:32:58,346 A lot of us have been friends since we were 12 years old. 1760 01:32:58,370 --> 01:33:04,290 So I can say my deepest, darkest, whatever, and those guys don't even bat an eye. 1761 01:33:04,550 --> 01:33:05,950 It's just, those are my friends. 1762 01:33:08,490 --> 01:33:10,130 The reunion was insane. 1763 01:33:10,290 --> 01:33:11,090 We had so much fun. 1764 01:33:11,091 --> 01:33:15,390 Teasing each other, laughing, and surfing is just a bonus. 1765 01:33:15,730 --> 01:33:20,470 I'm going I'm going I'm going 1766 01:33:25,870 --> 01:33:30,730 I'm going I'm going Move my system Move I No matter who you listen to Let it do what 1767 01:33:30,731 --> 01:33:37,550 it meant We sure do love this life If I was Now 1768 01:34:20,630 --> 01:34:25,780 There's no combination of words I could put on the back of a postcard No song that 1769 01:34:25,781 --> 01:34:31,800 I could sing But I can try for your heart Our dreams And they are made out of real 1770 01:34:31,801 --> 01:34:38,780 things Like a jukebox And photographs With sepia tone Lovin' Love is the answer At 1771 01:34:38,781 --> 01:34:43,380 least for most Of the questions In my heart Like, Why are we here And where do 1772 01:34:43,381 --> 01:34:48,440 We go And how come We're so hard And it's not always easy And sometimes life Can be 1773 01:34:48,441 --> 01:34:55,660 deceiving I'll tell you one thing It's always better When we're together It's 1774 01:34:55,661 --> 01:35:01,700 always better When we're together Yeah, we look at them stars And we're together 1775 01:35:01,701 --> 01:35:06,584 Yeah, Well, it's always better when we're together, 1776 01:35:06,585 --> 01:35:10,181 yeah, it's always better when we're together. 1777 01:35:12,710 --> 01:35:20,710 100% people pick it up there, guys, there, there. 1778 01:35:26,410 --> 01:35:30,450 And all of these moments just might find their way into my dreams tonight. 1779 01:35:31,090 --> 01:35:36,450 But I know that they'll be gone when the morning light sings or brings new things. 1780 01:35:36,451 --> 01:35:43,430 For tomorrow night you see that they'll be gone too, too many things I have to do. 1781 01:35:43,510 --> 01:35:47,310 But if all of these dreams might find their way into my day-to-day scene, 1782 01:35:47,510 --> 01:35:51,490 I'd be under the impression I was somewhere in between. 1783 01:35:51,670 --> 01:35:55,890 With only two, just me and you, not so many things we got to do. 1784 01:35:56,090 --> 01:36:00,650 But places we got to be will sit beneath the mango tree now. 1785 01:36:01,570 --> 01:36:04,370 Yeah, it's always better when we're together. 1786 01:36:04,610 --> 01:36:05,990 I'll tell you one thing. 1787 01:36:05,991 --> 01:36:06,430 It's always better when we're together. 1788 01:36:06,450 --> 01:36:08,010 It's always better when we're together. 1789 01:36:09,830 --> 01:36:11,930 It's always better when we're together. 1790 01:36:11,931 --> 01:36:15,416 After Todd died, Kelly said to me, you realize now 1791 01:36:15,417 --> 01:36:17,951 the only person you could ever really date is Pat. 1792 01:36:19,230 --> 01:36:23,410 And I remember thinking, that's so weird, he's like my brother, you know, Pat. 1793 01:36:23,650 --> 01:36:25,210 It's always better when we're together. 1794 01:36:26,330 --> 01:36:28,089 Janet and I were such close friends, you know, 1795 01:36:28,090 --> 01:36:29,950 it's like one of those romantic comedies. 1796 01:36:30,010 --> 01:36:32,166 And you're like, why doesn't this guy just kiss the chick? 1797 01:36:32,190 --> 01:36:35,090 We were living together as roommates and I came home one night... Yeah. 1798 01:36:35,091 --> 01:36:36,950 And he told me how he felt. 1799 01:36:37,290 --> 01:36:40,630 Hey Janet, you know, we've been friends for a long time. 1800 01:36:42,790 --> 01:36:45,630 Yeah, you know, like what do you think? 1801 01:36:46,420 --> 01:36:48,990 Whoa, I didn't see that coming. 1802 01:36:49,730 --> 01:36:52,910 At first it was a little weird, but it just felt right. 1803 01:36:55,130 --> 01:37:00,830 The only person Todd would have felt comfortable with me being with is Pat. 1804 01:37:01,070 --> 01:37:04,090 Sometimes I think he was up there kind of orchestrating. 1805 01:37:05,210 --> 01:37:07,610 Probably telling the guys to threaten the other guys away. 1806 01:37:12,910 --> 01:37:15,544 Hearing some of the speeches at our wedding, 1807 01:37:15,556 --> 01:37:17,791 I kind of started to put it together. 1808 01:37:18,070 --> 01:37:19,330 I was like, okay. 1809 01:37:21,310 --> 01:37:22,666 They all knew what they were doing. 1810 01:37:22,690 --> 01:37:25,790 It was just so perfect that her and Pat got together. 1811 01:37:25,990 --> 01:37:27,590 I mean, I got to pinch myself sometimes. 1812 01:37:27,690 --> 01:37:29,830 That's like Todd's spirit coming through. 147938

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