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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:14,275 --> 00:00:19,960 Yeah, I remember running back here in late 1960s. 2 00:00:21,420 --> 00:00:26,802 I could do a full loop six miles around Central Park 3 00:00:26,803 --> 00:00:31,080 and I might see four or five other runners back then. 4 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:35,400 That was it in the course of a an hour run. 5 00:00:36,480 --> 00:00:41,320 And I would say I knew every one of them back then. 6 00:00:41,480 --> 00:00:44,252 And if I didn't know them by name, I 7 00:00:44,264 --> 00:00:47,801 certainly recognized them, said hello to them. 8 00:00:48,100 --> 00:00:53,880 There weren't many of us and we were considered pretty odd. 9 00:00:54,330 --> 00:00:58,560 Yeah, kind of weirdos, I would say, at that time. 10 00:01:00,725 --> 00:01:01,725 Sure changed now. 11 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,880 Runners used to be an eccentric minority. 12 00:01:15,340 --> 00:01:17,500 You know, nobody really took us seriously. 13 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,565 I used to go out at night because I was 14 00:01:25,566 --> 00:01:29,000 embarrassed about being seen in public running. 15 00:01:29,320 --> 00:01:31,820 On voyait arriver en face des phares, on se 16 00:01:31,821 --> 00:01:34,540 jetait dans le fossé, on restait attendre. 17 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,920 Il est passé, puis on ressortait, puis on courait. 18 00:01:37,100 --> 00:01:40,280 Et on passait pour des fous, des farfelus complets. 19 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,920 I think we were looked as oddballs. 20 00:01:54,340 --> 00:02:00,180 We were strangers to people, seeing people running down the block in their underwear, 21 00:02:00,340 --> 00:02:02,120 I guess, you know, in white shorts. 22 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:09,460 I once got stopped by the police while I was out running without a shirt in a park 23 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,440 because they thought I was a pervert of some kind. 24 00:02:18,220 --> 00:02:19,860 What's so attractive about running? 25 00:02:20,700 --> 00:02:21,740 It is so earthy. 26 00:02:24,785 --> 00:02:30,620 That's a little exaggerated, but it's something you do all on your own. 27 00:02:30,740 --> 00:02:32,020 You create your run. 28 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:33,220 Nobody helps you. 29 00:02:33,300 --> 00:02:36,120 Nobody hinders you and you are just out there in the 30 00:02:36,121 --> 00:02:40,380 environment, wherever it may be and it's just you and the world. 31 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:50,720 When you run you get this pattern of beautiful forms and colors, the leaves and 32 00:02:50,721 --> 00:02:55,920 the forest and the blue sky and you're breathing the air and you just feel alive 33 00:02:55,921 --> 00:02:58,620 on this earth and to me it was always a miracle. 34 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:24,420 In the spring when you're in the park and you can smell the grass growing and the 35 00:03:24,421 --> 00:03:28,647 buzz, in the summer, I mean, there's nothing like 36 00:03:28,648 --> 00:03:31,760 running and sweating and having a beer after it. 37 00:03:36,110 --> 00:03:38,470 I have a friend who was always a friend of mine. 38 00:03:38,471 --> 00:03:41,050 It's always bullshit about endomorphins. 39 00:03:41,150 --> 00:03:44,430 And it's true that there's a moment when you say to yourself, let's go, 40 00:03:44,610 --> 00:03:45,930 you're a little tired, etc. 41 00:03:46,250 --> 00:03:50,550 And then you get into the rhythm and all of a sudden there's the well-being and 42 00:03:50,551 --> 00:03:54,470 this kind of moment when the body is a bit like 43 00:03:54,471 --> 00:03:57,490 a machine and then the head can free itself. 44 00:03:57,630 --> 00:04:01,930 It's at this moment that you can start to think and it's true, in a way, 45 00:04:02,090 --> 00:04:03,710 to get a little closer to the sky. 46 00:04:15,310 --> 00:04:17,730 Running was a way of self-expression. 47 00:04:17,870 --> 00:04:19,170 It was very simple. 48 00:04:19,390 --> 00:04:21,090 You needed no equipment. 49 00:04:21,410 --> 00:04:24,390 We ran not naked but close to it. 50 00:04:24,550 --> 00:04:27,722 And so it was our equivalent of going to Woodstock and 51 00:04:27,723 --> 00:04:30,370 listening to music and doing something quite natural. 52 00:04:30,670 --> 00:04:33,995 And some people expressed themselves through music 53 00:04:33,996 --> 00:04:36,990 and some people expressed themselves through drugs. 54 00:04:37,330 --> 00:04:39,250 I expressed myself through running. 55 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,800 One Sunday, a friend of mine said, you know, did you ever run a marathon? 56 00:04:59,980 --> 00:05:02,120 I had never run more than a mile or two miles. 57 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:09,100 And he said, let's go down to McCombs Dam Park in the Bronx and they have a marathon 58 00:05:09,101 --> 00:05:11,700 called Cherry Tree Marathon and we'll run it. 59 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:18,760 In the mid-1960s, anyone who went running outside the stadium was frowned upon 60 00:05:19,460 --> 00:05:21,420 unless they were a well-known athlete. 61 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,480 A city as big as New York could only bring together a small group of running freaks 62 00:05:26,481 --> 00:05:30,540 who met up every Sunday to run a marathon through the streets of the Bronx, 63 00:05:31,115 --> 00:05:32,400 the city's roughest area. 64 00:05:33,460 --> 00:05:35,900 I started around Yankee Stadium, around and around. 65 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:37,760 And I said, oh, this is easy. 66 00:05:37,930 --> 00:05:38,930 This is a jog. 67 00:05:39,390 --> 00:05:40,060 This is easy. 68 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:41,420 You know, anybody can do this. 69 00:05:41,540 --> 00:05:42,800 So I kept going around. 70 00:05:42,900 --> 00:05:43,420 It was cold. 71 00:05:43,500 --> 00:05:44,500 It was freezing cold. 72 00:05:44,700 --> 00:05:48,980 And so I went around, around five miles, ten miles. 73 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:50,840 I got up about 15 miles. 74 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,000 And boom, I just couldn't take another step. 75 00:05:54,150 --> 00:05:57,360 And I stopped in front of a church up in the Bronx. 76 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,720 And all the people were coming out of the church. 77 00:06:00,050 --> 00:06:02,000 And one fellow saw me. 78 00:06:02,100 --> 00:06:03,100 I swear this is true. 79 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,960 He saw me and I was just frozen up. 80 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,460 And I was blue because it was, you know, in the middle of the wintertime. 81 00:06:09,965 --> 00:06:10,965 He took off his coat. 82 00:06:11,055 --> 00:06:12,780 Then he took off his shirt that he gave me. 83 00:06:12,965 --> 00:06:15,820 He wrapped his shirt around me and he said, you can do it. 84 00:06:15,821 --> 00:06:16,280 Keep going. 85 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:17,020 Keep going. 86 00:06:17,220 --> 00:06:19,180 And I kept going. 87 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,060 Well, I went another mile. 88 00:06:21,180 --> 00:06:23,340 I just, oh, well, I couldn't walk for a week. 89 00:06:26,330 --> 00:06:27,330 It's a lot of fun to run. 90 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,460 But if you're going to hasten your death, that's no fun. 91 00:06:32,085 --> 00:06:34,400 Running is the worst thing in the world you can do because 92 00:06:34,401 --> 00:06:37,600 you're taking a chance to shorten your life by 20 to 40 years. 93 00:06:45,690 --> 00:06:47,919 So in those days you were seen as some kind of 94 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,561 masochistic weirdo if you went road running. 95 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:52,900 The situation was even worse for women. 96 00:06:53,700 --> 00:06:57,240 They were not even allowed to take part in distance races of over 800 meters. 97 00:06:57,241 --> 00:07:00,000 And things had been that way for a long time. 98 00:07:06,140 --> 00:07:11,020 That 1928 women's 800 meters was amazing from many points of view. 99 00:07:11,140 --> 00:07:14,280 One was that the women in reality ran so well. 100 00:07:14,990 --> 00:07:20,420 The other aspect of it is that it was misreported, probably with a degree of 101 00:07:20,421 --> 00:07:24,900 deliberate manipulation by the Olympic Association, that they all collapsed. 102 00:07:24,970 --> 00:07:32,920 And it told, at the time, there were 11 women in the race, five didn't finish, 103 00:07:33,570 --> 00:07:35,020 five collapsed at the finish. 104 00:07:36,010 --> 00:07:39,700 What actually happened was that one woman, as she crossed the finish line, 105 00:07:39,940 --> 00:07:42,120 leant forward and fell over. 106 00:07:42,510 --> 00:07:45,700 Just as runners very often do at the finish of races. 107 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:51,420 The film footage focuses on that and makes it look as if there is devastation. 108 00:07:53,390 --> 00:07:54,580 That was taken as the truth. 109 00:07:54,581 --> 00:07:58,060 Doctors all around the world said women will harm themselves, they shouldn't be 110 00:07:58,061 --> 00:08:01,520 doing this, they carry too much fat, they're too emotional. 111 00:08:02,150 --> 00:08:07,040 And the 800 meters was cut from the Olympic Games until 1960. 112 00:08:08,470 --> 00:08:10,527 So from 1928 to 1960, women had nothing in the 113 00:08:10,528 --> 00:08:13,401 Olympic Games longer than for a while at 100 meters. 114 00:08:15,060 --> 00:08:19,596 When my baby goes out My dunces are about My 115 00:08:19,597 --> 00:08:23,580 baby comes home to me It was a whole mindset. 116 00:08:23,581 --> 00:08:29,820 The mindset of the 50s and 60s that I grew up in is that women weren't capable of 117 00:08:29,970 --> 00:08:32,571 doing it, they weren't capable of going to medical 118 00:08:32,572 --> 00:08:35,120 school, they couldn't have a credit card on their own. 119 00:08:36,780 --> 00:08:40,780 People whispered about, you know, if you ran, you're going to get big legs, 120 00:08:40,940 --> 00:08:43,896 and you're going to grow hair on your chest, you're going to turn into a man, 121 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,188 you're going to turn into maybe something else, you're 122 00:08:46,288 --> 00:08:48,000 never going to get married, never have children. 123 00:08:48,250 --> 00:08:49,250 I was a nurse. 124 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,955 And the tradition was, the saying was, if 125 00:08:53,956 --> 00:08:57,861 you ran too much, your uterus would fall out. 126 00:08:59,100 --> 00:09:02,460 Women's sports were a problem. 127 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,200 Obviously, we had conferences about it. 128 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,700 It can be, at the same time, very beneficial and very harmful. 129 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,300 In fact, they did gymnastics. 130 00:09:13,340 --> 00:09:16,600 Gymnasts are beautiful, skaters are beautiful, but not the runners. 131 00:09:17,170 --> 00:09:22,500 It's really very bad to see a woman who is not talented enough to run on a track. 132 00:09:22,560 --> 00:09:23,060 It's not good. 133 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:24,520 It has to be very good. 134 00:09:26,770 --> 00:09:32,901 I didn't understand that at all, because I felt fabulous whenever I was running. 135 00:09:33,205 --> 00:09:35,280 So I refused to believe these myths. 136 00:09:35,795 --> 00:09:39,900 And I decided to play sports, be feminine, and be anything I wanted to be. 137 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,953 Back then, Catherine Switzer had no idea 138 00:09:51,954 --> 00:09:54,660 running would play such a big part in her life. 139 00:09:55,060 --> 00:09:57,480 She was just a typical American teenager. 140 00:09:57,780 --> 00:10:01,680 When her father first suggested to her that running would help her get into shape 141 00:10:01,681 --> 00:10:05,220 and boost her chances of getting on to the school's field hockey team. 142 00:10:09,340 --> 00:10:12,251 He said, all you have to do is go and run a mile 143 00:10:12,252 --> 00:10:14,700 a day, and you'd be the best player on that team. 144 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:16,120 And I said, what? 145 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:17,200 A mile a day, Dad? 146 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,040 You know, it's like climbing up Kilimanjaro. 147 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:26,340 I began running this mile every single day, and the most amazing thing happened. 148 00:10:26,341 --> 00:10:30,960 Every day I ran, I felt so empowered. 149 00:10:31,140 --> 00:10:34,160 I felt fearless, like I could do anything. 150 00:10:34,420 --> 00:10:35,780 I could conquer the world. 151 00:10:41,700 --> 00:10:47,460 When Switzer went to college a few years later in 1965, she soon realized that 152 00:10:47,461 --> 00:10:50,080 there was no provision for women who wanted to run. 153 00:10:50,850 --> 00:10:54,980 Nonetheless, she hunted down the track coach and asked to join the men's team. 154 00:10:57,190 --> 00:11:01,000 It was really funny to see his face, because he kind of went like this, 155 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,715 and he said, um, well, um, I've been the coach here 156 00:11:04,716 --> 00:11:07,641 for 30 years, and we've never had a girl before. 157 00:11:08,540 --> 00:11:13,680 But I have to tell you, it is against NCAA rules to let you run on the men's team. 158 00:11:16,370 --> 00:11:19,130 The NCAA was the federation that ruled over 159 00:11:19,131 --> 00:11:22,661 college athletics in the USA with an iron fist. 160 00:11:22,980 --> 00:11:24,440 But Switzer didn't care about that. 161 00:11:25,110 --> 00:11:29,280 Through sheer persistence, she managed to get accepted onto the college track team. 162 00:11:29,740 --> 00:11:33,740 But they asked her to train alone with an elderly coach, Arnie Briggs. 163 00:11:36,050 --> 00:11:40,600 Arnie Briggs was a mailman, and he delivered the mail in Syracuse, 164 00:11:40,601 --> 00:11:43,180 New York, and then he worked out every afternoon. 165 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:47,420 And he did this for one day in his life that was extremely special to him. 166 00:11:47,915 --> 00:11:50,560 And that was a day in April that he ran the Boston Marathon. 167 00:11:51,475 --> 00:11:54,780 And he had run the Boston Marathon 15 times, 168 00:11:54,792 --> 00:11:57,740 and he would tell me a story every day. 169 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,240 And every day would be another story about the Boston Marathon. 170 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,040 The 53rd annual Boston Marathon will take place tomorrow. 171 00:12:07,460 --> 00:12:12,400 Over 200 people will run the 26.2 miles of this unique marathon. 172 00:12:22,900 --> 00:12:26,038 Katherine Switzer had heard so much about the Boston Marathon 173 00:12:26,039 --> 00:12:28,750 that she ended up asking her coach if she could run it. 174 00:12:29,510 --> 00:12:30,770 Briggs flatly refused. 175 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,330 And I said, Arnie, look, regardless of what you believe or you don't believe, 176 00:12:36,290 --> 00:12:41,150 I'm not running with you anymore until you believe that a woman, some woman, 177 00:12:41,335 --> 00:12:42,535 can run the marathon distance. 178 00:12:43,265 --> 00:12:47,610 And he says, like this, he said, if any woman can do it, I believe you can do it. 179 00:12:47,925 --> 00:12:49,610 But you would have to prove it to me. 180 00:12:50,125 --> 00:12:55,691 In fact, if you showed me in practice, I'd be the first person to take you to Boston. 181 00:12:59,930 --> 00:13:04,674 So Katherine started training daily, gradually increasing her 182 00:13:04,675 --> 00:13:07,830 training time and distance until she could run the marathon. 183 00:13:07,850 --> 00:13:11,470 She ran a full 26.4 miles of a marathon without a break. 184 00:13:13,770 --> 00:13:16,999 One year earlier, another girl living thousands 185 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,110 of kilometers away had exactly the same idea. 186 00:13:22,010 --> 00:13:27,850 And I wrote for my application blank and I got a letter back from Will Cloney, 187 00:13:28,270 --> 00:13:30,908 who is the race director, and it said, women 188 00:13:30,909 --> 00:13:34,291 are not physiologically able to run 26 miles. 189 00:13:34,850 --> 00:13:39,890 And furthermore, under the rules of the amateur athletic union, they're not 190 00:13:39,891 --> 00:13:43,930 allowed to run more than a mile and a half competitively. 191 00:13:45,370 --> 00:13:48,270 But I convinced my mother to drive me to the start. 192 00:13:48,905 --> 00:13:52,059 At first she thought I was nuts, so I said, Mom, it's 193 00:13:52,139 --> 00:13:54,790 not just for me, it's for all women, don't you see? 194 00:13:55,030 --> 00:13:56,626 You know, this is a little chink in the armor. 195 00:13:56,650 --> 00:13:59,790 This is an opportunity to change things. 196 00:14:01,810 --> 00:14:05,563 Running without an official race number, Bobbie Gibb chose to 197 00:14:05,564 --> 00:14:09,730 blend in discreetly with the pack, and she kept a low profile. 198 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:16,290 The following year in 1967, the situation was very different for Katherine Switzer. 199 00:14:16,990 --> 00:14:18,210 I signed my name K.V. 200 00:14:18,211 --> 00:14:18,550 Switzer. 201 00:14:19,225 --> 00:14:21,971 That's something I started doing when I was in high school 202 00:14:21,972 --> 00:14:24,510 because my name was misspelled on my birth certificate. 203 00:14:24,910 --> 00:14:27,788 And when the entry went in with Arnie's and other 204 00:14:27,789 --> 00:14:30,551 team members, they thought it was from a guy. 205 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,846 When we got to Boston, it was snowing and 206 00:14:42,847 --> 00:14:46,200 sleeting all the way into Boston the night before. 207 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,700 And the morning of the race, it was really coming down. 208 00:14:50,245 --> 00:14:54,820 So as we all moved to the start line together, you know, there I was in a baggy 209 00:14:54,821 --> 00:14:57,520 gray sweatsuit looking like hundreds of other people. 210 00:15:01,105 --> 00:15:04,393 Wearing her official race bib, Katherine Switzer ran 211 00:15:04,473 --> 00:15:08,100 between Arnie, her coach, and her boyfriend, Tom. 212 00:15:10,390 --> 00:15:13,308 Then we got to about the two-mile mark in 213 00:15:13,309 --> 00:15:15,940 the race, and a very strange thing happened. 214 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,680 The press truck came by us. 215 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:24,400 There happened to be three runners running alongside one, one, one, one. 216 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:29,340 And the middle of the three runners, the middle one, took the hood off, 217 00:15:29,420 --> 00:15:36,060 off her head, off the head, and we, and it said, it was a woman! 218 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:41,166 On this bus were the two race directors, a guy by the 219 00:15:41,167 --> 00:15:44,100 name of Will Cloney and a guy by the name of Jock Semple. 220 00:15:44,420 --> 00:15:47,480 And one of the riders said, Jock, there's a woman in your race. 221 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,640 Jock looked, stop the bus, stop the bus. 222 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:54,540 I heard behind me shoes, leather shoes. 223 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,080 It sounded, you know, scraping, and they were going fast. 224 00:15:57,820 --> 00:16:01,560 And all of a sudden I turned, like you turn like when you hear a dog chasing you, 225 00:16:02,165 --> 00:16:05,240 at the last minute, and Jock Semple grabbed me like this. 226 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,600 He grabbed me by the shirt and threw me back. 227 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,444 And he screamed, get the hell out of my race and give me 228 00:16:17,544 --> 00:16:20,240 those numbers, and went to try to pull off my bib number. 229 00:16:20,340 --> 00:16:21,480 And I pulled back like that. 230 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:30,786 All of a sudden, Tom, he threw a shoulder block into Jock 231 00:16:30,787 --> 00:16:34,300 Semple, and I thought that I saw Jock go through the air. 232 00:16:47,230 --> 00:16:51,670 For a split second, I thought, should I, should I step off the course? 233 00:16:51,850 --> 00:16:53,775 And the journalists were asking these very aggressive 234 00:16:53,776 --> 00:16:55,971 questions like, what are you trying to prove? 235 00:16:56,340 --> 00:16:58,710 You know, are you a suffragette? 236 00:16:58,830 --> 00:16:59,830 Are you a crusader? 237 00:17:00,030 --> 00:17:03,030 And, you know, I'm thinking, I just want to run here. 238 00:17:03,210 --> 00:17:04,510 What is this all about? 239 00:17:07,900 --> 00:17:12,101 Despite everything, Katherine Switzer managed to complete the 26. 240 00:17:12,102 --> 00:17:13,791 4 miles and finish the race. 241 00:17:14,710 --> 00:17:18,370 But a few days later, she received a letter from the organizers of the Boston 242 00:17:18,371 --> 00:17:22,142 Marathon telling her that she had been disqualified and banned 243 00:17:22,143 --> 00:17:25,550 for life from the AAU, the American Athletics Federation. 244 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,410 That was my first big brush with discrimination. 245 00:17:32,930 --> 00:17:34,330 And it opened my eyes a lot. 246 00:17:35,165 --> 00:17:39,670 And I thought, you know, you've always been taught to be responsible, 247 00:17:40,670 --> 00:17:41,710 to finish what you start. 248 00:17:42,625 --> 00:17:46,870 And it's going to be my responsibility now to try to give other women this 249 00:17:46,871 --> 00:17:50,770 opportunity, to tell them how wonderful this running can be. 250 00:17:51,490 --> 00:17:54,610 And I didn't know how I was going to do it, but when I crossed the finish line, 251 00:17:54,790 --> 00:17:56,110 I knew that that was a life plan. 252 00:18:07,030 --> 00:18:10,090 You can be somebody's wife, you can be somebody's mother, you can be somebody's 253 00:18:10,091 --> 00:18:12,710 lover, you can be somebody's anything, but you can't be somebody. 254 00:18:14,030 --> 00:18:22,030 Yesterday Any way you made it was true Women, black people, Puerto Ricans, 255 00:18:22,090 --> 00:18:28,430 Mexicans, and all the minorities, all of us must stand up together and say, no more. 256 00:18:28,850 --> 00:18:36,190 Didn't you know You can't make it without ever even trying 257 00:18:40,990 --> 00:18:48,990 And something's wrong Let me explain The confrontation was not created by the 258 00:18:48,991 --> 00:18:50,813 police Let me explain The confrontation was not created 259 00:18:50,814 --> 00:18:53,590 by the police I knew that you were breaking up with me 260 00:19:01,820 --> 00:19:06,640 We're going to talk now about the exquisite agony of the marathon runner. 261 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:08,480 Kathy Switzer is here. 262 00:19:09,550 --> 00:19:11,726 Kathy was, just to set the stage, was the 263 00:19:11,727 --> 00:19:14,120 first woman ever to run in the Boston Marathon. 264 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:15,780 She did it illegally at the start. 265 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,859 In the years following her participation in the 266 00:19:18,860 --> 00:19:21,700 Boston Marathon, Switzer became the toast of the U.S. 267 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:22,040 media. 268 00:19:22,285 --> 00:19:25,705 Her story went around the world, eventually reaching 269 00:19:25,706 --> 00:19:29,020 Switzerland and the ears of a certain Noel Tamini. 270 00:19:30,285 --> 00:19:31,100 How did I learn that? 271 00:19:31,300 --> 00:19:33,180 By reading the American reviews, I think. 272 00:19:33,875 --> 00:19:38,700 The history of 1967, that she was ejected from this famous photo. 273 00:19:41,190 --> 00:19:45,224 And that's where I made sure that she could 274 00:19:45,225 --> 00:19:48,200 run in Switzerland so she wouldn't get shot. 275 00:19:48,201 --> 00:19:51,140 Not really shot, but to provoke a reaction. 276 00:19:51,710 --> 00:19:52,720 To show, here's a woman. 277 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,520 I'm going to show you a woman running. 278 00:19:56,650 --> 00:19:59,651 In Switzerland, as elsewhere, women were banned from 279 00:19:59,652 --> 00:20:02,121 taking part in road races by the Athletics Federation. 280 00:20:03,110 --> 00:20:05,480 But Tamini managed to persuade Katherine Switzer 281 00:20:05,481 --> 00:20:08,300 to come and take part in the Mora Fribourg race. 282 00:20:09,310 --> 00:20:13,460 A European version of the Boston Marathon, only even more inflexible. 283 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,900 The spirit of the organization was... 284 00:20:18,770 --> 00:20:21,180 sympathetic, but very military. 285 00:20:22,170 --> 00:20:24,120 Obey, you have orders, execute. 286 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,840 There was no discussion with these people. 287 00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:36,360 I 288 00:20:51,210 --> 00:20:55,610 knew the situation in Switzerland for women wasn't terrific because, 289 00:20:56,210 --> 00:21:01,410 I mean, I believe women couldn't even vote in Switzerland at the time. 290 00:21:01,870 --> 00:21:03,750 It was something that really appalled me. 291 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:13,060 This time, Katherine completed the race unhindered, but wearing a fake race number. 292 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,100 So once again, running incognito. 293 00:21:17,130 --> 00:21:19,780 From Switzerland, she dashed off a postcard to a girlfriend. 294 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:25,000 Dear Susie, here in Europe, everything's going wonderfully. 295 00:21:25,970 --> 00:21:29,760 Though I'm sorry to say that here too, I'm the only woman runner. 296 00:21:39,340 --> 00:21:44,326 It was really an incredible moment at the time for 297 00:21:44,327 --> 00:21:49,420 people who remembered the image of the Boston Marathon. 298 00:21:50,065 --> 00:21:54,460 And then they said to themselves, oh, it's happening in our country now. 299 00:21:55,275 --> 00:21:58,460 And I think that it changed a lot of ways of thinking. 300 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,120 I think it would be completely... 301 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:07,120 It would be a misogyny to think that women don't have the right to vote. 302 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:07,940 It's not about that. 303 00:22:08,020 --> 00:22:10,456 We have a national trial organized according to the coordinates. 304 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:11,000 We have problems. 305 00:22:11,001 --> 00:22:12,228 It's the problems of the Marches, it's the 306 00:22:12,229 --> 00:22:13,740 problems of Nantes, it's the problems of W.C. 307 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:14,400 it's the problems of the Douches. 308 00:22:14,500 --> 00:22:16,460 Sir, I'm not coming from in your family, but 309 00:22:16,461 --> 00:22:18,100 I insist the conditions are clear and clear. 310 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,510 We have a Pseudo-Mar heut, we have women section in the Club 311 00:22:20,511 --> 00:22:22,721 ATTIC with 140 active ladies, including western runners. 312 00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:26,200 And we can't in the current state of things take a category of women runner. 313 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,380 It's not a women's category, it's signed under a man's name. 314 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,180 Then it's a false name, then you're liars. 315 00:22:31,220 --> 00:22:31,640 It's even worse. 316 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,880 You're all going to fuck us out with this stuff. 317 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,900 She did it last year, it was a problem. 318 00:22:36,140 --> 00:22:37,140 We'll fix it this year. 319 00:22:37,420 --> 00:22:39,380 Goodbye sir, Sir, it was nice of you to intervene. 320 00:22:39,890 --> 00:22:40,890 We took notes. 321 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:04,480 In the end, we can say that Spiridon, the magazine, is born from a very strong 322 00:23:04,481 --> 00:23:07,860 feeling that everyone can understand, the love of freedom. 323 00:23:10,900 --> 00:23:15,520 Spiridon is the name Noël Tamini chose for the international running magazine he 324 00:23:15,521 --> 00:23:17,660 started in Switzerland around the same time. 325 00:23:17,661 --> 00:23:22,920 The magazine was produced on a shoestring and from the very beginning campaigned for 326 00:23:22,921 --> 00:23:26,900 the rights of all runners and foremost, the rights of women runners. 327 00:23:47,660 --> 00:23:49,359 Sometimes it was a bit controversial, but we had to be 328 00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:54,480 controversial so that everyone could run, especially the women. 329 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,720 It was the little spark that was needed. 330 00:24:01,410 --> 00:24:06,030 As well as campaigning, Spiridon conveyed a whole new philosophy of running, 331 00:24:06,810 --> 00:24:11,150 an ascetic, mystical, back-to-nature ethos of sports. 332 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:47,000 Noël Tamini, Jean Nota, all those who wrote at that time, a warmth, a poetry, 333 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:52,120 something that made running something different from all other sports. 334 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,854 It appeared every two months, six times a month, but we 335 00:24:54,855 --> 00:24:57,680 were expecting it to be better than the 25th of December. 336 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:05,960 We arrived at home, the street Spiridon was arrived by mail, we jumped on it, 337 00:25:06,140 --> 00:25:11,661 it was something, we were reading articles, but from the first line to the last line. 338 00:25:14,990 --> 00:25:18,270 Noël Tamini, Jean Nota, all those who wrote at that time, were in a way genius. 339 00:25:18,630 --> 00:25:20,650 His pictures were terrific. 340 00:25:20,970 --> 00:25:25,230 I haven't seen those kinds of pictures since then. 341 00:25:28,585 --> 00:25:33,230 It's a bit like the singer of the foot race, because he is a runner himself. 342 00:25:33,730 --> 00:25:39,130 Before, we never had reporters who described a race, but only seen from the 343 00:25:39,131 --> 00:25:41,810 outside, while Noël lived the race from the inside. 344 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:47,770 He knew how to motivate the reader, and to persuade him to do the foot race. 345 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,400 Patio and Spiridon, it was a good thing. 346 00:25:51,650 --> 00:25:57,790 I was telling things that I felt, hoping that it touches, that it speaks to someone. 347 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:02,132 But I remember that things really surprised me when 348 00:26:02,133 --> 00:26:05,390 people told me, I read your editorial and I cried. 349 00:26:06,490 --> 00:26:08,350 So I thought, how the hell did I do that? 350 00:26:08,450 --> 00:26:11,150 I write something and people cry like that? 351 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,519 And then, the same thing, there are people who told 352 00:26:15,559 --> 00:26:18,290 me, since I have Spiridon, my life has changed. 353 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:33,300 Meanwhile, in New York, the lives of the Bronx marathon freaks changed when one 354 00:26:33,301 --> 00:26:37,100 day, a funny little guy no one had even seen before showed up. 355 00:26:37,830 --> 00:26:43,160 He went by the name of Fred LeBeau, and he wasn't much of a runner. 356 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,040 He was totally a noob to us. 357 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,200 He wasn't the fastest guy. 358 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,220 He had a swagger. 359 00:26:58,221 --> 00:26:59,221 He was sort of a shuffle. 360 00:27:01,020 --> 00:27:02,460 Everybody who ran was serious. 361 00:27:02,780 --> 00:27:03,720 Nobody jogged. 362 00:27:03,780 --> 00:27:06,360 And people were suspicious of him at first. 363 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:07,140 They'd say, well, who's he? 364 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:08,240 Who's this person? 365 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:09,440 We don't even know who he is. 366 00:27:09,460 --> 00:27:12,480 He's not one of the die-hard runners, you know? 367 00:27:12,580 --> 00:27:13,320 I don't know. 368 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,000 He was a strange sort of guy. 369 00:27:16,380 --> 00:27:18,020 I think he liked my wife. 370 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:19,920 I know he liked my wife. 371 00:27:20,100 --> 00:27:21,800 He'd run after every girl in town. 372 00:27:25,380 --> 00:27:27,180 Fred came from a different background. 373 00:27:27,181 --> 00:27:33,660 He came from the fashion industry in New York City, which is very fancy and slick 374 00:27:33,810 --> 00:27:35,440 and businesslike. 375 00:27:35,630 --> 00:27:39,080 And he had come to New York from Romania, and then he 376 00:27:39,180 --> 00:27:41,720 spent time in Dublin, Ireland, and then he came here. 377 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:43,480 And he was very successful. 378 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,600 Fred, at heart, was a promoter. 379 00:27:49,940 --> 00:27:54,860 He said, listen, the sport is not going to be popular if we stay here in the Bronx. 380 00:27:55,595 --> 00:27:57,820 I don't know why, but he wanted to make it grow. 381 00:27:58,690 --> 00:28:02,880 I'm going to suggest that we go down to Manhattan and we have it in Central Park. 382 00:28:03,275 --> 00:28:04,836 Well, the people said, oh, that's ridiculous. 383 00:28:04,860 --> 00:28:05,860 You know, Central Park. 384 00:28:06,580 --> 00:28:08,340 Wait, how can you run in Central Park? 385 00:28:08,420 --> 00:28:09,700 Nobody ever ran in Central Park. 386 00:28:09,845 --> 00:28:15,900 We were happy running just every Sunday, meeting with people and running races and 387 00:28:16,700 --> 00:28:18,240 making it bigger. 388 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,760 That wasn't my concern. 389 00:28:25,410 --> 00:28:28,787 LeBeau nagged them until he succeeded in getting the marathon 390 00:28:28,788 --> 00:28:32,030 moved from the Bronx to Central Park in the heart of Manhattan. 391 00:28:32,390 --> 00:28:36,490 A massive change, but perhaps less so than it seemed. 392 00:28:37,090 --> 00:28:39,030 It was basically a nothing race. 393 00:28:39,430 --> 00:28:47,430 Not many runners, not very well organized, I mean, in terms of water and other things. 394 00:28:50,090 --> 00:28:51,330 Old fashioned running. 395 00:28:51,950 --> 00:28:55,258 I mean, it was just on the schedule and I had 396 00:28:55,259 --> 00:28:58,691 worked the night before and we had three children. 397 00:28:58,730 --> 00:29:02,610 And I think my wife just wanted to get out of the house. 398 00:29:04,690 --> 00:29:08,970 But, you know, it was a very lucky, lucky day for me that, you know, 399 00:29:08,990 --> 00:29:11,950 no matter what happens, I won the first New York City Marathon. 400 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,821 For several years, the New York Marathon was held 401 00:29:19,822 --> 00:29:22,640 in Central Park in these very amateurish conditions. 402 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,200 Then came 1972. 403 00:29:31,460 --> 00:29:34,483 Frank Shorter appears to be running to victory, 404 00:29:34,484 --> 00:29:37,661 winning an unexpected gold medal for the USA. 405 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,180 It's incredible. 406 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,260 He seems to be just jogging in the streets. 407 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:54,201 That was definitely a game changer for marathon running 408 00:29:54,202 --> 00:29:57,141 in this country or long distance running in general. 409 00:29:57,830 --> 00:30:00,676 I think Shorter really appealed to the 410 00:30:00,688 --> 00:30:04,060 American public because he made it look so... 411 00:30:04,061 --> 00:30:05,061 beautiful. 412 00:30:05,860 --> 00:30:10,460 I won't say easy, but he made it look like poetry. 413 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:17,260 And this was a sport that until then, its image had been suffering, grimacing, 414 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,060 exhaustion, collapse, something that was dangerous. 415 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,264 That really ignited both the running movement 416 00:30:33,265 --> 00:30:36,540 as a whole, but most specifically, the marathon. 417 00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:40,100 Suddenly, Americans wanted to run the marathon. 418 00:30:43,940 --> 00:30:48,420 For the bicentennial of the United States of America, the annual marathon race 419 00:30:48,421 --> 00:30:52,160 organized by the New York Road Runners Club will leave its usual setting in 420 00:30:52,161 --> 00:30:55,220 Central Park and take to the streets of the city's five boroughs. 421 00:30:55,780 --> 00:30:59,420 We all loved Boston so much because it was in the streets. 422 00:31:00,065 --> 00:31:02,320 And Fred said, we could do that in New York. 423 00:31:02,380 --> 00:31:04,140 And everybody thought it would be impossible. 424 00:31:04,380 --> 00:31:04,940 Say what? 425 00:31:05,380 --> 00:31:06,280 Say when? 426 00:31:06,281 --> 00:31:06,420 When? 427 00:31:06,421 --> 00:31:06,640 How? 428 00:31:06,980 --> 00:31:11,500 Well, and I think there was a tremendous amount of kind of skepticism that you 429 00:31:11,501 --> 00:31:16,160 could actually run a race through five boroughs and have runners go from start to 430 00:31:16,161 --> 00:31:19,080 finish without some kind of catastrophic event happening. 431 00:31:22,260 --> 00:31:27,040 At that time, the city was in decline because financially and crime, 432 00:31:27,220 --> 00:31:29,300 it wasn't a good time for the city. 433 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,040 New York City. 434 00:31:36,660 --> 00:31:39,040 For months, it teeters on the brink of bankruptcy. 435 00:31:40,380 --> 00:31:46,260 We're facing up to the financial crisis confronting this city and state. 436 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,660 We don't get the chance. 437 00:31:49,661 --> 00:31:50,300 What's the chance? 438 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:51,620 We don't get nothing. 439 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,580 Don't ask me what the people, the children, I don't even know what. 440 00:31:57,460 --> 00:31:59,060 People were in despair. 441 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:00,940 You know, the morale was low. 442 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,640 And he said, oh, listen, we'll run through the streets. 443 00:32:04,660 --> 00:32:06,200 We'll lift the whole world up. 444 00:32:06,220 --> 00:32:07,460 We'll lift up New York City. 445 00:32:09,060 --> 00:32:11,699 But Fred LeBeau, knew that merely running through the streets 446 00:32:11,700 --> 00:32:14,660 of New York wouldn't be enough to put his marathon on the map. 447 00:32:15,470 --> 00:32:18,151 Despite the limited means at his disposal, he 448 00:32:18,152 --> 00:32:20,860 somehow managed to get the two stars of U.S. 449 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,640 running, the Olympic gold medalist, Frank Shorter, and the U.S. 450 00:32:24,641 --> 00:32:29,100 record holder, Bill Rogers, to take part and provide the necessary glitter. 451 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:35,660 He knew that he needed to get Frank Shorter. 452 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,520 Frank Shorter was the one runner that everybody knew. 453 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:40,980 He was beyond the sport. 454 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:45,400 I've always maintained one of the reasons I told Fred LeBeau that I would come 455 00:32:45,401 --> 00:32:49,240 running the race was I had to see for myself that they could close down streets 456 00:32:49,241 --> 00:32:52,280 in five boroughs of New York City on a Sunday. 457 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,471 It was like a dream unfolding to see runners 458 00:33:11,472 --> 00:33:14,961 come off the bridge and go through Brooklyn. 459 00:33:21,820 --> 00:33:26,100 The Hasidic Jew population came out of the synagogues and were standing on the 460 00:33:26,101 --> 00:33:32,500 sidewalk, and they were just... and that's when I realized it was going to work. 461 00:33:32,740 --> 00:33:33,740 I did. 462 00:33:46,180 --> 00:33:47,560 Everybody saw this. 463 00:33:48,100 --> 00:33:54,260 When it was just a marathon in Central Park, not too many people watched, 464 00:33:54,460 --> 00:33:58,180 and they could just say to themselves, crazy runners taking up the park. 465 00:33:58,380 --> 00:34:03,240 Now it was out on the streets, and you see it, it's just so inspiring to 466 00:34:03,241 --> 00:34:09,560 see a marathon, to see that first runner coming in, looking so small, and then he 467 00:34:09,561 --> 00:34:12,340 passes you and you realize how fast he's running. 468 00:34:12,780 --> 00:34:15,580 It's a tremendous statement about human spirit. 469 00:34:15,820 --> 00:34:17,460 And it makes you want to do it too. 470 00:34:18,380 --> 00:34:19,420 Lebo knew this. 471 00:34:22,380 --> 00:34:26,120 385 yards, no one was mugged, no one was hit by a taxi. 472 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,660 For the city of New York and Bill Rogers, the marathon was a resounding success. 473 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,080 Dick Schaap, NBC News, in Central Park. 474 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,179 And it lifted the city, it united the city, you know, 475 00:34:39,219 --> 00:34:41,940 because each borough, you know, and it gave people hope. 476 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:47,220 And before you know it, everything started to get better, you know, and financially, 477 00:34:47,940 --> 00:34:50,660 it wasn't the only reason, but it was part of it. 478 00:34:50,900 --> 00:34:55,817 I did have that perspective of seeing this detached 479 00:34:55,818 --> 00:34:59,341 in a way that I'm watching a miracle happen. 480 00:35:46,740 --> 00:35:52,170 Central Park, in many ways, is a legend, you know, to the sport. 481 00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,530 This park here, around the reservoir, was not used for running before that. 482 00:36:00,890 --> 00:36:01,550 Hardly at all. 483 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,090 In the 1970s, there was crime, it was dangerous. 484 00:36:05,650 --> 00:36:06,850 You wouldn't walk in the park. 485 00:36:06,890 --> 00:36:07,750 You wouldn't walk in here. 486 00:36:07,870 --> 00:36:10,049 I'm not a track coach, but I just figured out 487 00:36:10,050 --> 00:36:12,170 how she can break, Kathy can break three hours. 488 00:36:12,350 --> 00:36:13,350 How? 489 00:36:13,635 --> 00:36:15,310 Run alone in Central Park at night. 490 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,810 And then as the runners came, the crime and all the other problems disappeared. 491 00:36:23,365 --> 00:36:27,530 And then the politicians and people said, well, let's rejuvenate the park. 492 00:36:27,650 --> 00:36:28,810 Let's put some money into it. 493 00:36:29,295 --> 00:36:30,295 Let's make it better. 494 00:36:32,790 --> 00:36:38,290 On most days when you ran, it was so crowded, sometimes you could hardly move. 495 00:36:38,630 --> 00:36:44,610 And on the reservoir or on the street, you would routinely pass Jackie Onassis 496 00:36:44,611 --> 00:36:49,109 running Robert Redford, Dustin Hoffman, famous 497 00:36:49,110 --> 00:36:53,050 people running in the same grubby shorts and T-shirt. 498 00:36:53,330 --> 00:36:57,430 Why are 10, 15, 20 million Americans out jogging and running these days? 499 00:36:57,710 --> 00:37:00,130 Well, I think they're getting smart finally. 500 00:37:00,550 --> 00:37:03,826 Well, it used to be people used to run only for competition 501 00:37:03,827 --> 00:37:06,011 or because they had to in gym classes or whatever. 502 00:37:06,130 --> 00:37:08,311 And now people are understanding that not only 503 00:37:08,312 --> 00:37:10,510 is running for fitness, but running can be fun. 504 00:37:10,890 --> 00:37:14,450 Um, I just wanted to get the body back into shape. 505 00:37:14,451 --> 00:37:15,710 How does it feel? 506 00:37:15,770 --> 00:37:16,770 It feels terrific. 507 00:37:16,830 --> 00:37:17,450 How long? 508 00:37:17,451 --> 00:37:19,255 It doesn't feel so good when I'm going 509 00:37:19,267 --> 00:37:21,410 around, but it feels great when I'm finished. 510 00:37:21,730 --> 00:37:22,830 Take a person like me. 511 00:37:24,535 --> 00:37:29,710 When I was 35 years old, I weighed 15 or 16 stones. 512 00:37:31,335 --> 00:37:33,390 I smoked 40 or 50 cigarettes a day. 513 00:37:34,470 --> 00:37:35,490 I drank too much. 514 00:37:36,890 --> 00:37:42,570 I started running and it was as if I were operating a time machine in reverse. 515 00:37:42,670 --> 00:37:47,730 Suddenly, I felt better than I had felt probably in 20 years. 516 00:37:48,930 --> 00:37:51,672 And now at the age of 46, I'm sure I feel as 517 00:37:51,673 --> 00:37:55,011 good as I felt when I was 15 or 16 years old. 518 00:37:55,500 --> 00:37:57,090 People now want to run. 519 00:37:57,250 --> 00:37:58,490 They need to do something else. 520 00:37:58,770 --> 00:38:00,030 It's not a social phenomenon. 521 00:38:00,031 --> 00:38:01,230 It's a society phenomenon. 522 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:34,940 Some are grandparents. 523 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:36,480 Some are grandchildren. 524 00:38:37,060 --> 00:38:38,080 Some are fast. 525 00:38:38,220 --> 00:38:39,300 Some are not so fast. 526 00:38:39,620 --> 00:38:41,780 Nevertheless, they all share one goal. 527 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,720 To get to the finish line in Central Park. 528 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:50,060 And to make that journey as painless and enjoyable as possible. 529 00:38:57,030 --> 00:39:03,410 Fred was among the first, I have to say, if not the first, who began to see the 530 00:39:03,411 --> 00:39:08,890 benefit of doing this over and above accomplishment. 531 00:39:10,310 --> 00:39:15,790 What he did is he set the stage for that and he created an atmosphere that was very 532 00:39:15,791 --> 00:39:18,870 welcoming to people who just wanted to participate. 533 00:39:19,230 --> 00:39:23,130 Where the great benefit of sports is to be with others. 534 00:39:23,310 --> 00:39:24,566 And that's the beauty of the marathon. 535 00:39:24,590 --> 00:39:25,590 You start together. 536 00:39:25,630 --> 00:39:26,950 You start with the best. 537 00:39:27,090 --> 00:39:28,570 You know, you rate with them. 538 00:39:28,630 --> 00:39:29,630 And you finish. 539 00:39:31,250 --> 00:39:35,210 He had a wonderful analogy for what was appealing about the marathon. 540 00:39:35,470 --> 00:39:38,570 And that was, we all want to be on the stage. 541 00:39:38,910 --> 00:39:45,070 Not everyone can be a champion, an Olympic athlete, a performer on a Broadway stage. 542 00:39:45,310 --> 00:39:50,250 But for that one day, you're on your own stage, 26.2 miles. 543 00:39:50,630 --> 00:39:53,850 And you're doing it by the power of your own two feet. 544 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:09,220 Inspired by the New York City Marathon, people everywhere took up running. 545 00:40:09,740 --> 00:40:12,971 In Europe, the magazine Spiridon grew into a massive 546 00:40:12,972 --> 00:40:15,901 grassroots movement that swept the continent. 547 00:40:16,180 --> 00:40:21,400 Noel Tamini and his friends had grasped that the desire to run free was catchy. 548 00:40:21,401 --> 00:40:27,100 Their example and their impassioned style spawned new races, here, there, 549 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:27,820 and everywhere. 550 00:40:28,340 --> 00:40:33,780 The orange Spiridon running shirts started appearing all over with the famous slogan, 551 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:35,500 Run With Us. 552 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,500 It was common in a race where you find yourself in a hundred, if not 150, 553 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:42,980 with a Spiridon jersey. 554 00:40:43,380 --> 00:40:45,520 The jersey was a symbol of freedom. 555 00:40:45,940 --> 00:40:47,580 When you were a Spiridon, you were free. 556 00:40:47,820 --> 00:40:50,220 People ran with the club jersey. 557 00:40:50,221 --> 00:40:52,954 They were licensed people who joined the federation 558 00:40:52,955 --> 00:40:55,040 and they had to run with the club jersey. 559 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,320 Those who were not licensed ran with the Spiridon jersey. 560 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,640 It became, in a way, an emblem of opposition in the federation. 561 00:41:06,860 --> 00:41:11,860 Because despite appearances, people were still by no means totally free to run. 562 00:41:12,770 --> 00:41:15,454 And the athletics federations continued to impose 563 00:41:15,455 --> 00:41:18,501 their outdated rules on road races and runners. 564 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,200 But not in Europe. 565 00:41:20,220 --> 00:41:21,220 For much longer. 566 00:41:21,925 --> 00:41:23,160 Revolt was in the air. 567 00:41:24,140 --> 00:41:28,880 In Europe, it was epitomized by the Marva-Jolmonde road race, a half marathon 568 00:41:28,881 --> 00:41:31,460 that had originated in the heart of the French countryside. 569 00:41:32,435 --> 00:41:34,653 A wildcat event, maintained despite being 570 00:41:34,654 --> 00:41:37,621 banned by the National Athletics Federation. 571 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:46,340 Marva-Jolmonde, I think, was a breakthrough in this search for freedom. 572 00:41:46,700 --> 00:41:47,980 To be a little bit yourself. 573 00:41:49,060 --> 00:41:51,100 Until then, we were conditioned. 574 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,080 There were barriers. 575 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,240 We couldn't do this, we couldn't do that. 576 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:57,840 Men and women were allowed to run. 577 00:41:57,860 --> 00:41:58,420 It was forbidden. 578 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,960 We made men and women run, with non-licent people. 579 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,120 People who didn't have a license, it was forbidden. 580 00:42:04,470 --> 00:42:09,520 After the races, things were happening that we can't describe, some kind of orgy. 581 00:42:09,660 --> 00:42:10,420 That's what they were telling. 582 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,300 It wasn't an orgy, it was a party. 583 00:42:12,420 --> 00:42:13,840 We danced, we had fun, we drank. 584 00:42:14,940 --> 00:42:16,543 In the very austere context of these 585 00:42:16,555 --> 00:42:18,520 competition on the track, it didn't go away. 586 00:42:19,060 --> 00:42:20,820 The distances made us run, they were crazy. 587 00:42:21,380 --> 00:42:24,000 We made young people run, but it was going to kill them for life. 588 00:42:26,940 --> 00:42:32,340 As long as only a handful of eccentrics wanted to run road races, the federations 589 00:42:32,341 --> 00:42:36,020 and the athletics establishment had more or less turned a blind eye to them. 590 00:42:36,220 --> 00:42:39,680 But with the movement growing, much more was at stake. 591 00:42:41,090 --> 00:42:43,480 What interested them was to get their licenses back. 592 00:42:43,481 --> 00:42:43,980 Of course. 593 00:42:44,450 --> 00:42:45,450 They had very few. 594 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:46,480 They were losing them. 595 00:42:47,570 --> 00:42:50,000 And we had more and more people who wanted to run. 596 00:42:50,330 --> 00:42:52,680 All these people without a license, it interested them. 597 00:42:54,535 --> 00:42:56,900 They started to want to suspend us. 598 00:42:57,020 --> 00:42:58,900 Jean-Claude Moulin made fun of us. 599 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,400 I was removed from my license for one year. 600 00:43:02,620 --> 00:43:04,760 They tried to kill me. 601 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,400 You are killing athletics. 602 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,060 You are murderers of athletics. 603 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:14,900 The decentralized structures of the French Federation moved on Marbe-Jolmande trying 604 00:43:14,901 --> 00:43:18,460 to prevent the race with cars and trying to block it. 605 00:43:19,390 --> 00:43:22,058 They were trying to stop Jean-Claude Moulin's car 606 00:43:22,059 --> 00:43:24,520 which at first was almost throwing itself from above. 607 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,320 It was tough. 608 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:27,520 It was tough. 609 00:43:39,940 --> 00:43:43,800 Road runners were not the only ones butting heads with the governing bodies. 610 00:43:45,965 --> 00:43:48,127 Track runners also had to remain amateurs if 611 00:43:48,128 --> 00:43:51,561 they wanted to take part in the Olympic Games. 612 00:43:52,460 --> 00:43:56,800 In the USA, where they were not allowed to earn a single cent from their sport on 613 00:43:56,801 --> 00:44:02,141 pain of being disqualified for life, the situation was dire for leading athletes. 614 00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:06,460 But, they gritted their teeth and submitted to the Federation's bullying. 615 00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:12,640 All that changed when Steve Prefontaine burst onto the scene. 616 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,562 Well, I think there's going to have to be a 617 00:44:16,563 --> 00:44:19,681 reworking of the whole amateur athlete as a whole. 618 00:44:20,100 --> 00:44:22,460 There's a lot of things that I think that should be changed. 619 00:44:22,610 --> 00:44:24,690 Well, I don't think we have time to go in them all 620 00:44:24,691 --> 00:44:26,940 because I could talk probably for a couple hours on them. 621 00:44:26,941 --> 00:44:31,440 Pre was the champion of runner's rights. 622 00:44:31,980 --> 00:44:34,020 He wanted equality for runners. 623 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,500 Every other athlete in the world got paid for doing their sport. 624 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:38,260 Runners did not. 625 00:44:38,580 --> 00:44:40,780 And he thought that that was just a huge injustice. 626 00:44:42,985 --> 00:44:45,500 But Prefontaine was not just a powerful spokesperson. 627 00:44:46,295 --> 00:44:49,520 He was first and foremost an exceptionally talented runner. 628 00:44:50,690 --> 00:44:55,980 At just 21, he already had a two-year unbeaten run and held all the U.S. 629 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,680 track records from 2,000 to 10,000 meters. 630 00:45:13,860 --> 00:45:17,620 Steve Prefontaine was maybe the most exciting athlete I've ever seen. 631 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:22,900 He had a ferocity that was just in his personality and in his eyes and in his 632 00:45:22,901 --> 00:45:28,420 actions and in his attitude that I've never seen anywhere. 633 00:45:30,900 --> 00:45:34,969 Michael Jordan, Wayne Gretzky, Tiger Woods, there's 634 00:45:34,970 --> 00:45:38,100 something that whatever they have, Pre had it. 635 00:45:38,940 --> 00:45:41,360 The performer, he was a performer. 636 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,396 It was a question of how people were louder for him, more 637 00:45:45,397 --> 00:45:50,500 people connected with him than anyone who had come before then. 638 00:45:50,740 --> 00:45:56,700 And as it turns out, anyone who's come since has been the champion of his track 639 00:45:56,701 --> 00:46:01,961 success, his charisma and his outspokenness made Prefontaine the people's champion. 640 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,780 Crowds went wild for him, especially on his home track 641 00:46:05,781 --> 00:46:09,260 in Eugene, Oregon where his appearances sparked hysteria. 642 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,000 Prefontaine in a surprise move there. 643 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,220 He said he didn't enter this race to be second. 644 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,280 And the crowd went wild. 645 00:46:41,390 --> 00:46:45,119 Season after season, ever bigger crowds flock to 646 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,550 see Prefontaine win, generating colossal revenues. 647 00:46:50,290 --> 00:46:51,410 But not for Pre himself. 648 00:46:52,625 --> 00:46:56,148 To remain an amateur he had to scrape by and live in 649 00:46:56,149 --> 00:46:58,911 a trailer while others cashed in on his performances. 650 00:47:01,070 --> 00:47:05,510 I like the I could possibly go to the 76 games, if financially possible, 651 00:47:06,590 --> 00:47:09,330 but right now I'm just kind of floating along. 652 00:47:11,210 --> 00:47:16,842 The workers were getting peanuts, and the director was 653 00:47:16,843 --> 00:47:21,870 making reasonable money for himself and for the Federation. 654 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:24,610 And it didn't feel good. 655 00:47:25,390 --> 00:47:26,570 It didn't feel good at all. 656 00:47:27,105 --> 00:47:27,950 It felt like slavery. 657 00:47:27,951 --> 00:47:33,390 Running doesn't pay your bills, so you've got to make a lot of sacrifices 658 00:47:33,391 --> 00:47:35,487 to be an amateur sport in this country, 659 00:47:35,499 --> 00:47:37,870 considering it's so professionally oriented. 660 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:43,910 He was the consummate spokesperson for the sport of running, not just Prefontaine and 661 00:47:43,911 --> 00:47:48,610 Who Am I?, but he reached out, and the AAU battle started right away, 662 00:47:48,690 --> 00:47:52,578 because here's a guy who was not going to follow the old, 663 00:47:52,579 --> 00:47:55,430 archaic, out-of-touch rules of the old governing body. 664 00:47:59,090 --> 00:48:04,410 In his campaign for a better deal for runners, Prefontaine soon found support in 665 00:48:04,411 --> 00:48:06,588 the shape of a small running shoe company that 666 00:48:06,589 --> 00:48:09,671 had just started up in his home state of Oregon. 667 00:48:09,710 --> 00:48:11,723 As soon as he was out of college, they 668 00:48:11,724 --> 00:48:14,851 recruited him to help with their PR operations. 669 00:48:15,050 --> 00:48:19,210 The image of Prefontaine as a rebel, as running free, with his long, 670 00:48:19,211 --> 00:48:23,130 shaggy hair and his big mustache, kind of fighting the establishment, 671 00:48:23,290 --> 00:48:24,710 I mean, that was there. 672 00:48:24,810 --> 00:48:27,290 That was true, I think, to an extent. 673 00:48:27,291 --> 00:48:31,510 And then Nike, as a small company, embraced this. 674 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:37,540 The company was small. 675 00:48:38,100 --> 00:48:41,660 There may have been less than 15 people. 676 00:48:41,780 --> 00:48:42,380 I don't know. 677 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:43,200 I don't remember. 678 00:48:43,420 --> 00:48:43,900 Very small. 679 00:48:44,180 --> 00:48:47,100 The first logo that we came out with was a script logo. 680 00:48:47,380 --> 00:48:50,100 And, you know, a script, lowercase script logo. 681 00:48:50,340 --> 00:48:55,380 And the beginning of the N had a little lead into it, which looked like another 682 00:48:55,381 --> 00:48:57,920 leg, and it looked like an M as much as it did an N. 683 00:48:58,350 --> 00:48:59,800 And so a lot of people misread it. 684 00:49:00,660 --> 00:49:01,600 And I just asked that very question. 685 00:49:01,660 --> 00:49:02,660 Who is Mike? 686 00:49:04,935 --> 00:49:05,940 It was youthful. 687 00:49:07,060 --> 00:49:11,640 It was kind of carefree, because you didn't worry about too much. 688 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,640 Everybody was involved with running in one way or another. 689 00:49:17,620 --> 00:49:21,740 We were trying to do anything we could to help the sport get better. 690 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:27,160 And, I mean, put on a road race, battled the governing bodies, support Pre. 691 00:49:27,161 --> 00:49:34,021 Whatever it was, the collectiveness of that added value big time to the running boom. 692 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:39,920 So Prefontaine was able to count on Nike's help when in 1975 he decided to take 693 00:49:39,921 --> 00:49:42,816 matters into his own hands and organize the very first 694 00:49:42,817 --> 00:49:47,300 competitive athletic circuit set up by athletes for athletes. 695 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,422 Over-challenged to the amateur athletic union, which had 696 00:49:51,423 --> 00:49:54,880 always forbidden athletes from competing in unofficial events. 697 00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:59,279 And to make sure it was a success, Pre also invited 698 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,060 Finland's leading runners to come to the USA. 699 00:50:02,850 --> 00:50:07,380 The athletes have enough hassles without being told what to do, when and where, 700 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:13,421 and throwing in new rules now and then to benefit themselves instead of the athletes. 701 00:50:14,550 --> 00:50:16,980 You know, at the end of the day, the most important thing you get out of 702 00:50:16,981 --> 00:50:19,260 all this international competition is the friendships. 703 00:50:21,220 --> 00:50:22,220 These are our friends. 704 00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:23,940 Here's where we are. 705 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:24,660 This is really cool. 706 00:50:24,661 --> 00:50:25,661 Come see this. 707 00:50:26,220 --> 00:50:27,480 We want to share this with you. 708 00:50:28,110 --> 00:50:31,920 That was the atmosphere for these competitions. 709 00:50:34,250 --> 00:50:40,620 Pre's independent circuit came to a triumphant end on May 29, 1975, in Eugene. 710 00:50:40,780 --> 00:50:45,440 Pre won the 5,000 meters ahead of his friend Olympic medal-winning marathon 711 00:50:45,441 --> 00:50:49,025 runner Frank Shorter and was already planning the 712 00:50:49,026 --> 00:50:52,580 next step in this struggle for athletes' independence. 713 00:50:55,230 --> 00:51:00,800 He was willing to go to the mat with those people, and did, and he stood up to them. 714 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:03,160 He was a rebel. 715 00:51:03,730 --> 00:51:06,670 But he was always fighting for the cause of the 716 00:51:06,671 --> 00:51:09,641 athletes and putting himself at risk sometimes. 717 00:51:13,475 --> 00:51:16,081 Until today, Steve Prefontaine was ahead of 718 00:51:16,082 --> 00:51:18,721 everyone in this country as a long-distance runner. 719 00:51:19,190 --> 00:51:24,060 He held the American records in the 3,000-meter, the 2-mile, the 3-mile, 720 00:51:24,510 --> 00:51:28,440 the 5,000-meter, the 6-mile, and the 10,000-meter race. 721 00:51:29,475 --> 00:51:33,560 Early today, his sports car jumped a curb on an Oregon highway and flipped over. 722 00:51:34,330 --> 00:51:36,120 He was alone, and he was killed. 723 00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:37,360 He was 24. 724 00:51:44,450 --> 00:51:50,350 Never a shock is it possible for me to ever get anything like that now. 725 00:51:53,370 --> 00:51:56,750 It's an incredible life just gone. 726 00:51:59,925 --> 00:52:00,925 He was our glory. 727 00:52:01,550 --> 00:52:02,550 And we were his. 728 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:09,032 And it's up to us now to hold in mind clearly, to remember 729 00:52:09,033 --> 00:52:14,350 him as he touched us and infuriated us and challenged us. 730 00:52:17,890 --> 00:52:25,890 Time holds him, green and dying, though he sang in his chains like the sea. 731 00:52:28,085 --> 00:52:29,650 I was lost in my own thoughts. 732 00:52:31,050 --> 00:52:32,490 I was lost in my own thoughts. 733 00:52:34,890 --> 00:52:35,890 Um... 734 00:52:37,630 --> 00:52:38,630 I don't know. 735 00:52:39,750 --> 00:52:44,110 At the end of it is various people, you know, talked about him, and then, 736 00:52:44,780 --> 00:52:50,350 you know, now we'll have a moment of silence and picture him running his last 737 00:52:50,351 --> 00:52:52,230 lap of what would have been a world record. 738 00:52:52,870 --> 00:52:53,870 And... 739 00:52:54,590 --> 00:52:55,590 Yeah, you... 740 00:52:57,240 --> 00:52:59,330 It was a pretty emotional day. 741 00:53:27,820 --> 00:53:28,600 It was a pretty emotional day. 742 00:53:28,601 --> 00:53:36,321 As we all know, part of what caused that revolution in road running was Prefontaine. 743 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:44,480 His standing up to the AAU was the first part of it, but the second part was his 744 00:53:44,481 --> 00:53:50,160 death really caused people to assess what was important. 745 00:53:50,790 --> 00:53:57,221 And to them, it was freedom and being able to make a living doing what you love to do. 746 00:53:59,870 --> 00:54:04,080 You know, having somebody who is the most famous person in American track and field 747 00:54:04,081 --> 00:54:10,620 take a stand made it easier in the years to come for others to do the same. 748 00:54:22,660 --> 00:54:26,760 Bill Rogers, the best marathon runner in the country, proved that again today by 749 00:54:26,761 --> 00:54:29,460 winning the Boston Marathon for the third time. 750 00:54:29,890 --> 00:54:31,160 He even broke his own record. 751 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,580 Today, he ran 2 hours, 9 minutes and 27 seconds. 752 00:54:37,300 --> 00:54:39,220 We all wanted to be professionals. 753 00:54:40,140 --> 00:54:44,740 We wanted to be respected like other athletes or anyone in America who had a 754 00:54:44,741 --> 00:54:48,080 job gets paid for it, you know, or anywhere in the world. 755 00:54:48,430 --> 00:54:49,790 If you're good at it, you're paid. 756 00:54:49,905 --> 00:54:51,380 So why were we so different? 757 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:52,640 And we didn't feel we were. 758 00:54:52,930 --> 00:54:56,480 The hundreds of thousands of people who will watch the New York Marathon run a 759 00:54:56,481 --> 00:54:59,680 week from Sunday will watch a race exploding in controversy. 760 00:54:59,780 --> 00:55:01,000 More from Reggie Harris. 761 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:06,660 Next weekend, more than 16,000 runners will participate in the New York City Marathon. 762 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,400 Technically, all of them are amateur athletes. 763 00:55:09,500 --> 00:55:12,420 And amateurs run for competition, not for money. 764 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:17,260 But the New York Times reports coaches of some top marathoners say under-the-table 765 00:55:17,261 --> 00:55:20,960 prize money is being offered to get big-name runners to show up. 766 00:55:21,900 --> 00:55:25,900 That would violate rules of the International Amateur Athletic Federation, 767 00:55:26,180 --> 00:55:29,840 or IAAF, which sanctions the New York City Marathon. 768 00:55:29,841 --> 00:55:34,180 And if prize money is being paid, it would jeopardize the amateur status of 769 00:55:34,181 --> 00:55:37,260 many athletes who hope to compete in the 1984 Olympics. 770 00:55:37,740 --> 00:55:41,760 The New York Road Runners Club, Fred LeBeau, declined to confirm or deny 771 00:55:41,761 --> 00:55:44,073 the Times allegations, but he says it's 772 00:55:44,085 --> 00:55:46,700 time for marathoners to win big prize money. 773 00:55:47,060 --> 00:55:54,100 I believe a runner like Bill Rogers, who trains twice a day, every single day 774 00:55:54,101 --> 00:55:57,560 of the year, is as much an athlete as a Reggie Jackson. 775 00:55:58,340 --> 00:55:59,280 Fred LeBeau. 776 00:55:59,281 --> 00:56:03,160 Fred LeBeau was paying runners from the start at the New York City Marathon. 777 00:56:04,490 --> 00:56:06,220 Not openly, but they were getting paid. 778 00:56:06,590 --> 00:56:09,126 There's been a lot of dispute about under-the-table 779 00:56:09,127 --> 00:56:10,976 payments to these so-called world-class athletes. 780 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:12,000 Do they get paid? 781 00:56:12,270 --> 00:56:17,700 Well, we're not really ignoring the situation, but this has been going on for 782 00:56:17,701 --> 00:56:21,480 a long time in track and field, whether runners get paid or not. 783 00:56:22,005 --> 00:56:25,380 It's a subject that's under very deep discussion right now within the athletic 784 00:56:25,381 --> 00:56:28,220 congress and the world bodies on this subject. 785 00:56:28,221 --> 00:56:29,781 They could lose their amateur standing. 786 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:30,660 That's right. 787 00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,090 And we wouldn't do anything that would jeopardize 788 00:56:33,091 --> 00:56:34,940 their eligibility to compete internationally. 789 00:56:35,140 --> 00:56:36,140 I understand that. 790 00:56:36,180 --> 00:56:37,620 I hope you're not paying for anyone. 791 00:56:37,695 --> 00:56:38,775 That's what the mayor said. 792 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:39,480 I hope you're not. 793 00:56:39,620 --> 00:56:41,196 Oh, he said, no, no, I would never do that. 794 00:56:41,220 --> 00:56:42,300 I'd never pay for anything. 795 00:56:42,540 --> 00:56:44,100 Meanwhile, he was paying everybody. 796 00:56:45,720 --> 00:56:47,880 They said, I hope you're not giving away all the money. 797 00:56:47,940 --> 00:56:49,981 This is supposed to be not... Oh, not at all. 798 00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:51,040 No, I'd never do that. 799 00:56:51,240 --> 00:56:54,300 Meanwhile, all these people started appearing from all around the world. 800 00:56:55,240 --> 00:56:56,240 Everywhere. 801 00:56:56,720 --> 00:56:58,140 Australia, Japan, Europe. 802 00:56:58,141 --> 00:56:58,480 France. 803 00:56:58,820 --> 00:56:59,560 Oh, my God. 804 00:56:59,660 --> 00:57:00,760 They all were coming. 805 00:57:01,220 --> 00:57:06,500 In the late 1970s, the practice of making under-the-table payments to top athletes 806 00:57:06,501 --> 00:57:11,040 became commonplace in the road race community, whose members were the first to 807 00:57:11,041 --> 00:57:14,680 raise their voices against the Federation's hypocritical attitude. 808 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:19,240 The far-sighted Fred LeBeau, who had never been afraid to be provocative, 809 00:57:19,500 --> 00:57:21,860 decided it was time to clear the air. 810 00:57:22,020 --> 00:57:24,860 He wrote a book that openly referred to those payments. 811 00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,986 The total price money we paid over the years to the 812 00:57:27,987 --> 00:57:30,960 highest finishers in New York reached a million dollars. 813 00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,100 New York Mayor Edward Koch gave the Roadrunners a new deal. 814 00:57:34,340 --> 00:57:37,660 For every dollar the club now spends on appearance fees and prize money, 815 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,780 it must also give a dollar to the city. 816 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,780 In effect, the publication of LeBeau's book may have 817 00:57:42,781 --> 00:57:46,640 cost the Roadrunners more than $300,000 this year. 818 00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:50,654 In retrospect, if I knew the ruckus it would cause, I 819 00:57:50,655 --> 00:57:53,261 would have not published the book in the first place. 820 00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,040 It turned out this is the most expensive book ever published. 821 00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:08,520 We pay millions of dollars to the city for the police protection for 26 miles. 822 00:58:08,740 --> 00:58:13,120 But that's been going on for some years, although those fees have been going up. 823 00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:19,700 Nowadays, running has become a race just as much for money as for glory. 824 00:58:19,860 --> 00:58:24,780 In Chicago today, the winners of the marathon got $45,000 each. 825 00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,510 Early 80s, they were saying, we don't care about 826 00:58:29,511 --> 00:58:32,280 your rules, we're going to give money and take money. 827 00:58:33,380 --> 00:58:39,060 And they threw down the challenge and the amateur officials couldn't answer it. 828 00:58:40,030 --> 00:58:45,160 And before long, the entire sport was open to whatever you can get, take it. 829 00:58:56,790 --> 00:58:59,593 Male track and road champions were not the only ones 830 00:58:59,594 --> 00:59:02,350 to throw off their shackles at the end of the 70s. 831 00:59:02,351 --> 00:59:07,610 Women had also gradually won the right to run on roads alongside men. 832 00:59:08,010 --> 00:59:11,790 But there were still far fewer women than men running in races. 833 00:59:12,530 --> 00:59:18,290 Until Katherine Switzer heard of a madcap scheme proposed by a major cosmetics firm 834 00:59:18,291 --> 00:59:22,750 to create a women-only international running race circuit. 835 00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:28,000 Wow. 836 00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:31,240 This will be the avenue to get women into running. 837 00:59:32,010 --> 00:59:36,540 Not saying, hey, come join us in the marathon where there are two women and 838 00:59:36,541 --> 00:59:41,140 there are 800 men, because you're going to feel slow and not welcome. 839 00:59:42,910 --> 00:59:44,360 Come in a women's-only race. 840 00:59:48,140 --> 00:59:51,306 More than 400 runners competed in the first 841 00:59:51,307 --> 00:59:54,380 all-female 15-kilometer run in Arizona this morning. 842 00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:59,360 650 women setting out to do what was once considered the impossible. 843 00:59:59,820 --> 01:00:02,480 More than 1,000 women compete in a half marathon. 844 01:00:02,780 --> 01:00:04,860 I don't think we've even seen the tip of the iceberg. 845 01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:06,300 It's really incredible. 846 01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,821 We had to overcome centuries of beliefs that women have 847 01:00:20,822 --> 01:00:23,580 inherent weakness and passivity, as Aristotle said. 848 01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:27,220 And it's been really all those years to make a change, a cultural revolution, 849 01:00:27,380 --> 01:00:30,620 a social revolution, and I say an intellectual one as well. 850 01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:36,117 It was just an amazing feel to give that back to so many 851 01:00:36,118 --> 01:00:39,000 women around the country and really around the world. 852 01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:48,340 I would now like to organize foot races for women in the third world. 853 01:00:51,460 --> 01:00:53,862 They were so poor that they never had anybody 854 01:00:53,874 --> 01:00:55,920 that said that they could be somebody. 855 01:00:56,220 --> 01:01:01,620 And when they finished a 5K race or a 10K race and we gave them a T-shirt and a 856 01:01:01,621 --> 01:01:06,566 medal and a lipstick gift and said, you are somebody, they 857 01:01:06,567 --> 01:01:09,420 understood this sense of empowerment and fearlessness. 858 01:01:09,421 --> 01:01:14,160 And they really, really changed their lives completely. 859 01:01:21,310 --> 01:01:23,833 You know, whether she made best time or what, for 860 01:01:23,834 --> 01:01:25,710 her it's an improvement and that's what counts. 861 01:01:25,930 --> 01:01:28,390 I'd just like to thank them for the opportunity. 862 01:01:28,570 --> 01:01:29,830 I think it's a fantastic thing. 863 01:01:30,750 --> 01:01:35,030 It became phenomenally good for the corporation because they were getting very 864 01:01:35,031 --> 01:01:37,633 excellent publicity, doing something that was 865 01:01:37,634 --> 01:01:39,930 unusual and capturing the public imagination. 866 01:01:40,370 --> 01:01:44,810 And everybody agreed that women did deserve an opportunity in the Olympics. 867 01:01:46,070 --> 01:01:48,710 There's going to be a new world record for greater bates. 868 01:01:49,850 --> 01:01:53,370 Perhaps the greatest marathon ever run, Joan Benoit. 869 01:01:53,690 --> 01:01:56,490 Every year, the women's marathon time keeps going down. 870 01:01:56,650 --> 01:02:00,210 In 10 years, it has dropped almost 45 minutes. 871 01:02:00,490 --> 01:02:03,392 This was the first year in more than 10 years that the 872 01:02:03,393 --> 01:02:06,050 men's record has dropped and that was just by a few seconds. 873 01:02:06,730 --> 01:02:10,431 In the early 80s, 1,500 meters was still the longest 874 01:02:10,432 --> 01:02:13,170 distance the International Athletic Federation could reach. 875 01:02:13,171 --> 01:02:15,531 The women's marathon would be sanctioned for a women's race. 876 01:02:15,770 --> 01:02:20,770 And although women were now free to run, many people were still prejudiced against 877 01:02:20,771 --> 01:02:23,793 the idea of women running long distances in the 878 01:02:23,794 --> 01:02:27,291 Olympic Games, even more so for the marathon. 879 01:02:28,730 --> 01:02:32,530 We would like to participate in the women's marathon in the Olympic Games. 880 01:02:33,110 --> 01:02:34,110 Yay! 881 01:02:34,510 --> 01:02:37,610 The women's marathon in the Olympic Games. 882 01:02:39,490 --> 01:02:45,090 In 1980, four years before the Los Angeles Olympics, Katherine Switzer cleverly chose 883 01:02:45,091 --> 01:02:49,110 to hold her circuit's annual marathon in London, where the International 884 01:02:49,111 --> 01:02:52,470 Federation, the IAAF, had its headquarters. 885 01:02:54,710 --> 01:02:57,668 A sunny warm day dawns in London for the third 886 01:02:57,669 --> 01:03:00,550 annual Avon Women's International Marathon. 887 01:03:00,830 --> 01:03:02,830 This is a turning point for women's running. 888 01:03:02,990 --> 01:03:07,650 The representation of 27 countries at the starting line now surpasses the 889 01:03:07,651 --> 01:03:10,610 International Olympic Committee's requirements for a new event. 890 01:03:25,770 --> 01:03:26,770 We 891 01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:50,500 had excellent performances. 892 01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,760 We had incredible media coverage. 893 01:03:53,940 --> 01:03:55,820 We had the endorsement of the IAAF. 894 01:03:56,020 --> 01:03:59,947 And the IAAF then made a recommendation to the IOC 895 01:03:59,948 --> 01:04:03,561 to get the women's marathon in the Olympic Games. 896 01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:17,120 I remember when Monique Berlieu stood up and made the announcement, she said, 897 01:04:17,900 --> 01:04:21,220 this was not an easy decision, but it was a very important decision. 898 01:04:22,195 --> 01:04:27,800 And I turned to my friend who was in the audience with me, and I said, nobody is 899 01:04:27,801 --> 01:04:32,100 going to understand how important this moment is until the first woman comes 900 01:04:32,101 --> 01:04:34,840 through that tunnel and into the Olympic Stadium. 901 01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:41,220 Joan Benoit is running in a direction away from the rest of the pack as well. 902 01:04:41,221 --> 01:04:45,020 You know, Al, people speculated that it would either be a tactical race or that 903 01:04:45,021 --> 01:04:47,400 Joan Benoit was going to eventually take it out very hard. 904 01:04:47,620 --> 01:04:48,560 And here she is. 905 01:04:48,620 --> 01:04:50,820 It looks like she's going to make her move really early. 906 01:04:53,060 --> 01:04:56,995 You know, when it came time for the Los Angeles Olympics, 907 01:04:56,996 --> 01:04:59,661 ABC asked me to be a commentator for the women's marathon. 908 01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:19,359 She gets into some welcome shade and then 909 01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:22,841 very shortly out into the sunlight once again. 910 01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,820 I was trying at this point not to get emotional. 911 01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,240 I was trying to be very, very calm. 912 01:05:29,915 --> 01:05:31,497 And as she entered the tunnel, Al Michaels turned 913 01:05:31,498 --> 01:05:38,840 to all of us and he went, let the crowd take it. 914 01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:26,540 To me, that moment was, was as important as giving women the right to vote because 915 01:06:26,541 --> 01:06:31,520 it represented the physical equivalent of total acceptance into society. 916 01:06:32,980 --> 01:06:37,760 And that people around the world, not just those 90,000 people in that 917 01:06:38,010 --> 01:06:42,640 Olympic stadium, but people around the world in their millions were watching on 918 01:06:42,641 --> 01:06:49,032 television and realized that somebody had just run 26 miles, 385 yards, 42. 919 01:06:49,033 --> 01:06:51,887 2 kilometers, the most difficult event in the Olympic 920 01:06:51,888 --> 01:06:54,960 games, and run it with heroic courage and grace and speed. 921 01:06:55,595 --> 01:06:57,831 And it changed forever people's attitudes 922 01:06:57,832 --> 01:07:01,341 about what women's capability was all about. 923 01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:04,797 A dramatic step forward for women in sports, 924 01:07:04,809 --> 01:07:07,040 for women athletes all around the world. 925 01:07:07,041 --> 01:07:09,118 Indeed, for women in general, it attracted the 926 01:07:09,119 --> 01:07:11,080 attention of literally hundreds of women's groups. 927 01:07:11,140 --> 01:07:14,291 How much does that particular historic fact have to 928 01:07:14,292 --> 01:07:16,680 do with the degree of elation you feel right now? 929 01:07:16,900 --> 01:07:18,620 Well, again, Jim, I don't think it's set in. 930 01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:23,380 As I said earlier, there's so many people I have to thank this marathon for. 931 01:07:23,540 --> 01:07:27,580 If it hadn't been for the work of countless women pioneers in the sport, 932 01:07:27,740 --> 01:07:28,980 we wouldn't be here today. 933 01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:34,200 And let's hope that in 1988 we can also run a 5 and 10K because we showed today 934 01:07:34,201 --> 01:07:36,700 that women can be very competitive over resistance. 935 01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:43,480 We were just wrapping up our coverage and just about ending the show, and I was 936 01:07:43,481 --> 01:07:48,520 feeling, you know, relieved when all of a sudden, out of the tunnel and into the 937 01:07:48,780 --> 01:07:53,692 stadium came the very, very crippled-over image, 938 01:07:53,693 --> 01:07:57,781 figure of Gabriel Anderson Schiess from Switzerland. 939 01:07:58,620 --> 01:08:01,540 The Calvary of Gabby Anderson Schiess. 940 01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:07,020 Gabby Anderson Schiess from Switzerland has 941 01:08:07,021 --> 01:08:07,020 scored more than four minutes for the team. 942 01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:09,257 She has scored more than three minutes to make the 943 01:08:09,258 --> 01:08:11,420 300 meters, the first 300 meters of the Tour de Terra. 944 01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,640 And now Gabby Anderson Schiess is trying. 945 01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:15,680 Look at this view. 946 01:08:15,740 --> 01:08:18,400 She's going from the fourth lane to the rope. 947 01:08:18,620 --> 01:08:19,840 She's completely bent. 948 01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:21,240 She tilts. 949 01:08:21,440 --> 01:08:22,800 She's at the end of her strength. 950 01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:24,260 She's totally dehydrated. 951 01:08:24,420 --> 01:08:26,040 She absolutely wants to finish. 952 01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:30,020 This is an absolutely crazy image that we have here. 953 01:08:30,021 --> 01:08:31,021 This image is terrible. 954 01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:33,120 Is she going to collapse before she arrives? 955 01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:36,820 She still has 60 meters left, even more than 50 meters to go. 956 01:08:37,540 --> 01:08:39,000 Ah, the marathon drama. 957 01:08:39,001 --> 01:08:40,401 We thought it didn't exist anymore. 958 01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:42,311 Dorando will collapse at the end of the 959 01:08:42,312 --> 01:08:44,340 marathon, before the war, before the first war. 960 01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:49,580 The Belgian from Cailly, sitting in Wembley in 1948, is passed by Cabrera and Peters. 961 01:08:50,020 --> 01:08:52,500 And now it's an Elvis who is in this state. 962 01:08:52,740 --> 01:08:55,620 He still has 20 meters to Gabby Anderson Schiess. 963 01:08:55,740 --> 01:09:00,600 It's the most terrible image we've ever seen in a marathon since television exists. 964 01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:02,060 Another 10 meters. 965 01:09:02,300 --> 01:09:03,420 Another 10 meters. 966 01:09:03,460 --> 01:09:04,400 She's in the third lane. 967 01:09:04,401 --> 01:09:05,920 Another 5 meters. 968 01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:06,700 3 meters. 969 01:09:06,860 --> 01:09:07,220 2 meters. 970 01:09:07,340 --> 01:09:07,980 1 meter. 971 01:09:08,060 --> 01:09:09,060 And she's passed. 972 01:09:09,140 --> 01:09:10,140 And she's passed. 973 01:09:10,300 --> 01:09:10,860 And she collapses. 974 01:09:11,220 --> 01:09:12,940 Under the screams of the crowd. 975 01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:19,100 In 2 hours 48 minutes and 41 seconds, Gabby Anderson Schiess, with her will and 976 01:09:19,101 --> 01:09:21,727 courage, but she will have a lot of pain to 977 01:09:21,728 --> 01:09:24,140 recover this effort, just finished her marathon. 978 01:09:24,500 --> 01:09:30,061 It was a terrible image, and at the same time, demonstrating the will of this woman. 979 01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:34,280 And I thought, oh no. 980 01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:35,400 Oh no. 981 01:09:35,500 --> 01:09:36,620 This can't be happening. 982 01:09:37,315 --> 01:09:40,108 Because they're going to make a media 983 01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:43,441 frenzy of a woman in a distressed condition. 984 01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:49,240 So when she finished and was carted off, I just sort of left the studio thinking, 985 01:09:49,440 --> 01:09:52,040 I don't know what's going to happen now with the women's marathon. 986 01:09:53,500 --> 01:09:57,340 Still on the Los Angeles Olympics, we've had an update on the health of 987 01:09:57,341 --> 01:10:00,960 Gabriella Anderson Schiess, the female marathon runner who touched hearts 988 01:10:00,961 --> 01:10:03,065 everywhere the day before yesterday when she 989 01:10:03,066 --> 01:10:05,500 finished the race in a state of total exhaustion. 990 01:10:05,700 --> 01:10:06,920 And it's good news. 991 01:10:07,370 --> 01:10:11,320 It seems she was just severely dehydrated and has made a very quick recovery. 992 01:10:11,730 --> 01:10:13,580 In fact, she's already back in training. 993 01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:21,740 Afterwards, my husband Roger Robinson wrote one of the best statements about it. 994 01:10:22,330 --> 01:10:28,420 He said one of the most amazing things about the 1984 women's Olympic marathon, 995 01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:33,580 the inaugural, was it allowed women to be exhausted in public. 996 01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:38,560 Maybe that's what equality is also all about. 997 01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:47,400 Today, the New York City Marathon has become the world's most famous race. 998 01:10:47,700 --> 01:10:54,106 And this Sunday, 24,000 lucky people will have the opportunity to run its 26. 999 01:10:54,107 --> 01:10:57,000 4 miles, a challenging distance for any level. 1000 01:10:58,300 --> 01:11:03,040 Even in the height of what we would call the running boom, the early running boom, 1001 01:11:03,180 --> 01:11:07,120 the first running boom, Fred used to say, this is nothing. 1002 01:11:07,490 --> 01:11:08,490 This is nothing. 1003 01:11:08,820 --> 01:11:09,820 Just watch. 1004 01:11:15,740 --> 01:11:18,762 Fred really wanted the whole world of running to grow 1005 01:11:18,763 --> 01:11:22,780 and the New York Roadrunners to be a leader in that. 1006 01:11:23,460 --> 01:11:25,680 And so bigger was always better. 1007 01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:33,360 When I read that there are 34 million Americans who run or jog, I wondered where 1008 01:11:33,361 --> 01:11:38,700 the rest of the 60 million are that should be running, or at least race walking. 1009 01:11:40,620 --> 01:11:46,360 New York suddenly realized they had this event that was bringing money in for the 1010 01:11:46,361 --> 01:11:50,580 city on an economic basis, which they had never really dreamed about. 1011 01:11:51,210 --> 01:11:57,200 And other cities started seeing that this was happening, and along came London, 1012 01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:00,260 Chicago, Los Angeles, Honolulu. 1013 01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:11,840 Now there is no city worthy of this name that wouldn't have a marathon. 1014 01:12:12,540 --> 01:12:17,740 In the 1990s, cities throughout the world understood that there was big money to be 1015 01:12:17,741 --> 01:12:21,055 made from organizing marathons, even though 1016 01:12:21,056 --> 01:12:24,141 New York remained by far the most glamorous. 1017 01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:26,866 I happen to think that New York City is very special, and 1018 01:12:26,867 --> 01:12:30,860 I'm proud that it is the marathon capital of the world now. 1019 01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:35,340 Many marathons around the world have copied much of what we're doing, 1020 01:12:35,440 --> 01:12:42,340 from barcodes to computer scanning, to timing and scoring devices. 1021 01:12:44,700 --> 01:12:47,526 But the one thing that no marathon in the country 1022 01:12:47,527 --> 01:12:50,121 or the world can match is the vitality of the city. 1023 01:12:51,890 --> 01:12:57,920 He would have these plans in his mind that it would be increasing the sponsorship, 1024 01:12:58,100 --> 01:13:01,020 increasing the number of people who could run. 1025 01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:03,793 He said, look, I want every runner here who comes 1026 01:13:03,794 --> 01:13:05,900 to this marathon to have the best experience. 1027 01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:07,520 I want to make sure they have a cover. 1028 01:13:07,521 --> 01:13:09,480 I want to make sure they get the food. 1029 01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:10,960 I want to make sure they have... 1030 01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:13,380 that they're taken care of in every way, you know. 1031 01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:18,560 Oh, well, let's have coffee and donuts at the starting line. 1032 01:13:19,770 --> 01:13:22,440 But Fred, that's not a healthy thing to do. 1033 01:13:23,770 --> 01:13:24,770 But they'll love it. 1034 01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:30,400 We'll have a race on Wall Street. 1035 01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:31,320 Wall Street? 1036 01:13:31,580 --> 01:13:32,820 How can you have a race there? 1037 01:13:32,980 --> 01:13:36,620 Then he got the going backwards race, people running backwards. 1038 01:13:36,621 --> 01:13:40,860 Press agents were out in force at the Empire State Building, staging a publicity 1039 01:13:40,861 --> 01:13:43,440 stunt so silly that we decided to cover it. 1040 01:13:43,740 --> 01:13:45,500 Let's run up the Empire State Building. 1041 01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:49,480 Well, great idea. 1042 01:13:49,580 --> 01:13:51,140 Turned out to be, at the time. 1043 01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:56,200 They're giving people jingle bells so that they can make noise when they run. 1044 01:13:56,520 --> 01:14:00,540 And people are dressed in Santa Claus outfits and reindeer. 1045 01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:01,760 They have antlers on. 1046 01:14:02,060 --> 01:14:06,800 And I'm going, what happened to my sport? 1047 01:14:12,980 --> 01:14:13,980 What next? 1048 01:14:15,490 --> 01:14:16,690 There's just a lot more to do. 1049 01:14:19,810 --> 01:14:21,250 Nobody is indispensable. 1050 01:14:21,750 --> 01:14:24,316 But as far as the marathon is concerned, LeBeau 1051 01:14:24,317 --> 01:14:27,690 comes as close to being indispensable as anybody. 1052 01:14:28,890 --> 01:14:30,610 He was like the Pied Piper. 1053 01:14:30,730 --> 01:14:35,670 You know, the story of the Pied Piper who plays his flute and the rest of us follow. 1054 01:14:35,990 --> 01:14:39,655 Those were his workers, but those were also the runners and 1055 01:14:39,656 --> 01:14:42,530 the other people who took advantage of the events he put on. 1056 01:14:42,930 --> 01:14:44,990 They loved what he built. 1057 01:14:45,130 --> 01:14:50,630 And so that was his gift, that he could bring us all into his vision. 1058 01:14:53,250 --> 01:14:58,270 And that he could create from his vision an event that appealed to millions of 1059 01:14:58,271 --> 01:15:00,230 people, whether you ran or whether you watched. 1060 01:15:02,420 --> 01:15:03,530 That was Fred's genius. 1061 01:15:14,450 --> 01:15:22,450 Run and you'll be thinner Run to give your heart a thrill Run Run to be a winner Not 1062 01:15:26,330 --> 01:15:34,330 just run of the mill Keep up the pace And we promise you'll hit new highs Stay in 1063 01:15:34,331 --> 01:15:40,630 the race And your spirits will rise Rise, rise, run! 1064 01:15:41,050 --> 01:15:42,950 Well, I sure hope you liked it. 1065 01:15:42,970 --> 01:15:45,510 We're back on our new award ceremony program. 1066 01:15:46,205 --> 01:15:47,210 It surprised me. 1067 01:15:48,090 --> 01:15:49,150 I was at the dinner. 1068 01:15:49,250 --> 01:15:49,870 It was a big dinner. 1069 01:15:50,070 --> 01:15:52,590 You know, they used to have the big dinner for awards, you know. 1070 01:15:54,250 --> 01:15:55,690 And he got up to speak. 1071 01:15:56,290 --> 01:15:58,006 And up to that point, there was nothing, you know. 1072 01:15:58,030 --> 01:15:59,230 I mean, he was fine, you know. 1073 01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:02,910 And he got up to speak, and right in the middle of his speech, he stopped talking. 1074 01:16:03,150 --> 01:16:07,090 You know, he forgot what to say, you know, which he never did, you know, ever. 1075 01:16:07,530 --> 01:16:08,510 I was concerned about it. 1076 01:16:08,550 --> 01:16:12,830 So I sent him actually on my own right the next day up to my hospital to get an MRI. 1077 01:16:12,831 --> 01:16:16,130 And that's when the, you know, the tumor was there right away. 1078 01:16:16,425 --> 01:16:18,185 We detected it, you know, almost immediately. 1079 01:16:18,910 --> 01:16:21,669 He had a kind of brain tumor that you can 1080 01:16:21,670 --> 01:16:24,670 extend your life, but nobody recovers from this. 1081 01:16:24,790 --> 01:16:28,030 It's still one of the most lethal forms of cancer. 1082 01:16:29,130 --> 01:16:31,570 But Fred never saw things that way. 1083 01:16:35,730 --> 01:16:36,480 I would go see him. 1084 01:16:36,500 --> 01:16:38,380 I saw him when he was at Mount Sinai. 1085 01:16:38,845 --> 01:16:40,800 He had a pole, you know. 1086 01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:44,060 He had the pole, you know, with the intravenous and the bag and all this stuff. 1087 01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:48,700 And he had around the corridors, he had it marked off to how far was a mile. 1088 01:16:49,075 --> 01:16:50,860 And he was going down the corridor. 1089 01:16:51,110 --> 01:16:52,320 He was going like this. 1090 01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:55,740 And the nurses say, all he does is he keeps going around and around. 1091 01:16:56,230 --> 01:16:58,660 So he refused to accept it. 1092 01:16:58,720 --> 01:16:59,380 You know, he refused. 1093 01:16:59,480 --> 01:17:01,060 He fought like the devil. 1094 01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:06,860 I don't have a wife. 1095 01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:08,000 I don't have any kids. 1096 01:17:08,650 --> 01:17:11,000 But it is like nurturing a child. 1097 01:17:12,230 --> 01:17:13,920 For 23 years, that's all I did. 1098 01:17:14,970 --> 01:17:19,560 You know, I worked also, but the marathon is the most consuming thing in my life. 1099 01:17:20,190 --> 01:17:22,960 I've run 68 other marathons, but never New York City. 1100 01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:26,460 A few months ago, I turned 60. 1101 01:17:27,550 --> 01:17:31,180 I told my staff, no parties, no receptions. 1102 01:17:31,570 --> 01:17:33,740 I just want to give myself a gift. 1103 01:17:35,030 --> 01:17:36,230 That's to finish the marathon. 1104 01:17:39,390 --> 01:17:43,780 If visionary race director Fred Liebow manages to cross his own finish line 1105 01:17:43,781 --> 01:17:46,860 today, he'll have finally captured his own American dream. 1106 01:17:47,450 --> 01:17:50,240 For 23 years, he's staged New York City's biggest hit. 1107 01:17:50,670 --> 01:17:52,880 Today, his entry will provide a lot of the drama. 1108 01:18:09,010 --> 01:18:12,734 I always say that outside of having my two children, it 1109 01:18:12,735 --> 01:18:15,930 was the most remarkable experience I'd ever witnessed. 1110 01:18:16,420 --> 01:18:20,850 I had the pleasure and the privilege to run behind Fred and Greta in that marathon. 1111 01:18:20,851 --> 01:18:24,525 And I don't think anyone has ever gotten the 1112 01:18:24,526 --> 01:18:28,331 cheers and support along the course that Fred did. 1113 01:18:29,670 --> 01:18:32,214 Jan, we're coming up on the halfway point, 1114 01:18:32,215 --> 01:18:34,690 and I really have to take my hat off to Fred. 1115 01:18:34,910 --> 01:18:37,230 He's been clicking off 12-minute miles. 1116 01:18:37,430 --> 01:18:39,681 I've seen a lot of cancer patients in my 1117 01:18:39,682 --> 01:18:41,930 day, but I haven't seen any that can do this. 1118 01:18:41,990 --> 01:18:43,010 I am truly impressed. 1119 01:18:46,010 --> 01:18:49,990 And to this day, I can barely talk about it without choking up. 1120 01:18:50,850 --> 01:18:55,250 You understood that it was the ultimate statement of Fred saying, I'm alive, 1121 01:18:55,550 --> 01:18:56,550 I'm here. 1122 01:18:56,830 --> 01:19:01,550 And it was then that I fully understood that's why all of us run the marathon. 1123 01:19:01,890 --> 01:19:06,330 It's the ultimate way of saying, I'm alive, I'm here. 1124 01:20:24,170 --> 01:20:26,390 Fred died two years later. 1125 01:20:27,260 --> 01:20:30,790 In his lifetime, he ran 69 marathons across the world. 1126 01:20:31,750 --> 01:20:33,870 The last one was in New York in 1992. 1127 01:21:18,830 --> 01:21:24,910 In the space of a decade, Fred LeBeau's insatiable appetite had transformed the 1128 01:21:24,911 --> 01:21:29,530 New York City Marathon from a small association of volunteers to a large 1129 01:21:29,531 --> 01:21:34,410 professional organization whose revenues swelled to tens of millions of dollars. 1130 01:21:35,250 --> 01:21:38,150 To Fred, money was only a vehicle. 1131 01:21:38,610 --> 01:21:41,130 He had no interest in it personally. 1132 01:21:42,390 --> 01:21:49,230 And he used money and greed of others to create power. 1133 01:21:50,685 --> 01:21:53,250 And he thought he could control it all. 1134 01:22:02,070 --> 01:22:06,650 Americans now spend more than $500 million a year. 1135 01:22:07,050 --> 01:22:08,090 On shoes to run. 1136 01:22:08,830 --> 01:22:11,430 The initial few hundred runners had become 1137 01:22:11,431 --> 01:22:14,631 tens of thousands, then millions worldwide. 1138 01:22:14,810 --> 01:22:19,430 All these runners in need of shoes, clothing and gear represented a willing 1139 01:22:19,431 --> 01:22:23,270 target for all those involved in the overgrown business of running. 1140 01:22:28,250 --> 01:22:32,930 However for some other people, it spelled the end of an era and the loss 1141 01:22:32,931 --> 01:22:35,870 of the romance and innocence of the early days. 1142 01:22:37,590 --> 01:22:38,630 Fred LeBeau, New York City Marathon Manager, New York City Marathon Once that 1143 01:22:38,631 --> 01:22:43,770 exposure... started and more people came to it, we were no longer unusual. 1144 01:22:44,295 --> 01:22:45,455 We were no longer the freaks. 1145 01:22:52,660 --> 01:22:53,670 The revolution diluted. 1146 01:22:55,550 --> 01:22:58,770 I'm not saying it's completely gone, but the revolution... 1147 01:23:00,650 --> 01:23:03,330 diluted itself in the mass, in the way, in the period after the war. 1148 01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:15,140 Spiridon opened a home of Pandora, in that he was the one that contributed to 1149 01:23:15,141 --> 01:23:17,781 the release of hordes of people, quienesjangeni were more numerous. 1150 01:23:18,655 --> 01:23:20,520 Up soon after they demanded aPressure on found authenticity. 1151 01:23:20,521 --> 01:23:21,521 A real institution Türk 1152 01:23:34,950 --> 01:23:40,245 The pressure, the commercial pressures of continuing 1153 01:23:40,246 --> 01:23:44,250 the magazine meant that you had to go look for sponsors. 1154 01:23:44,940 --> 01:23:47,430 And the sponsors always want something. 1155 01:23:47,610 --> 01:23:50,170 And the sponsors wanted to sell running shoes or 1156 01:23:50,171 --> 01:23:53,930 sell shirts or sell, you know, vitamins or all this. 1157 01:23:54,515 --> 01:23:59,430 And so, in a way, they sold out the, you know, the spirit of the early, 1158 01:23:59,510 --> 01:24:04,270 you know, spirit of running to this era of commercialism. 1159 01:24:05,325 --> 01:24:07,450 You could argue, what could we do? 1160 01:24:13,460 --> 01:24:17,020 And in a way, I'm glad that we hadn't all decided to stop. 1161 01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:19,920 What could I do? 1162 01:24:20,060 --> 01:24:21,076 How could I repeat myself? 1163 01:24:21,100 --> 01:24:23,160 As some do today. 1164 01:24:24,220 --> 01:24:26,900 You, who run the marathon, for the first time, 1165 01:24:26,901 --> 01:24:28,920 try to run for three hours and then leave. 1166 01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:30,000 I couldn't do that. 1167 01:24:30,700 --> 01:24:32,560 That was the salad I didn't like. 1168 01:24:33,230 --> 01:24:38,580 So I was happy to have given up and to finally be free to do something else. 1169 01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:41,660 Even though I was very poor, but at least I was free. 1170 01:24:45,500 --> 01:24:50,390 As running grew, we all kept congratulating ourselves that we were in a 1171 01:24:50,790 --> 01:24:58,790 movement that was entirely positive, healthy, open, inclusive, raises a lot of 1172 01:24:58,791 --> 01:25:04,370 money for charity, helps health, helps society, brings cities like New York 1173 01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:08,390 together, is symbolic of freedom, you know, like at Berlin in 1990. 1174 01:25:08,900 --> 01:25:10,810 All of those very positive things. 1175 01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:13,480 And then we got bigger and bigger and bigger. 1176 01:25:13,750 --> 01:25:15,490 And then the crunch came. 1177 01:25:16,070 --> 01:25:19,046 And we have had to back off and look at ourselves 1178 01:25:19,047 --> 01:25:21,190 and say, it's actually not all positive. 1179 01:25:21,510 --> 01:25:24,250 There is a darker side to what we've achieved. 1180 01:25:27,650 --> 01:25:30,910 Hurricane Sandy is now approaching the east coast of the USA. 1181 01:25:31,450 --> 01:25:34,310 People of New York City are preparing for the crunch. 1182 01:25:35,010 --> 01:25:38,130 We have not experienced anything on this scale. 1183 01:25:38,390 --> 01:25:42,790 We just want everyone to know that we are hurting down here and we need help. 1184 01:25:42,791 --> 01:25:45,270 We need help. 1185 01:25:45,870 --> 01:25:51,450 Mayor Michael Bloomberg refuses to cancel the marathon despite New York's struggle 1186 01:25:51,451 --> 01:25:54,550 to recover from the devastation caused by Sandy. 1187 01:25:55,090 --> 01:25:57,229 The city of New York right now is talking about getting 1188 01:25:57,230 --> 01:26:01,610 water out of the battery tunnel and preparing for a marathon. 1189 01:26:02,190 --> 01:26:04,170 We are pulling bodies out of water. 1190 01:26:04,790 --> 01:26:06,530 You see the disconnect here? 1191 01:26:07,090 --> 01:26:11,390 Every single person on this block lost everything. 1192 01:26:11,810 --> 01:26:12,790 It's not enough. 1193 01:26:12,791 --> 01:26:14,575 We tried to get out of the 5th avenue and this 1194 01:26:14,576 --> 01:26:17,091 neighborhood to measure the disaster that was all around. 1195 01:26:17,290 --> 01:26:21,730 We knew that they had emptied some hospitals to take people in emergency. 1196 01:26:22,490 --> 01:26:25,290 I want to go home, but there's no home. 1197 01:26:25,330 --> 01:26:26,430 I can't go home. 1198 01:26:26,670 --> 01:26:28,030 That's killing me. 1199 01:26:28,450 --> 01:26:32,610 They're going to run a marathon and worry about how many people are in the car 1200 01:26:32,611 --> 01:26:35,630 before they worry about who's got electricity and who's got water to drink. 1201 01:26:37,425 --> 01:26:43,830 It's been quite the last 24 hours since the mayor decided that the best thing for 1202 01:26:43,831 --> 01:26:47,550 the city of New York was for the marathon to go on on Sunday. 1203 01:26:49,330 --> 01:26:50,870 They were some tough days. 1204 01:26:51,050 --> 01:26:55,850 They were days where the challenge was what is the right thing to do and what's 1205 01:26:55,851 --> 01:27:00,650 possible for the city and ultimately for runners. 1206 01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:05,610 This has always been known as the greatest day in the life of the city. 1207 01:27:05,630 --> 01:27:13,510 And if this city is on the road to recovery, to show its resilience, 1208 01:27:14,070 --> 01:27:20,751 to show the world that this is the greatest city in the world, then this race goes on. 1209 01:27:22,330 --> 01:27:26,850 We were convinced that the marathon had to go on. 1210 01:27:26,970 --> 01:27:28,450 That was the history of the marathon. 1211 01:27:28,590 --> 01:27:29,650 It lifted the city. 1212 01:27:29,870 --> 01:27:32,610 And in hindsight, we were wrong. 1213 01:27:33,580 --> 01:27:36,725 We felt that in terms of the city, the organizers had a 1214 01:27:36,726 --> 01:27:40,270 will to keep us in the artifice until the last moment. 1215 01:27:40,690 --> 01:27:41,690 Good evening Brian. 1216 01:27:41,750 --> 01:27:43,737 Well, the anger was really triggered in earnest 1217 01:27:43,738 --> 01:27:46,370 today in large part by these generators behind me. 1218 01:27:46,410 --> 01:27:49,610 Race organizers brought them in to power things like race clocks. 1219 01:27:49,810 --> 01:27:52,530 They're large enough to power 400 homes. 1220 01:27:52,770 --> 01:27:55,390 And as the anger grew today, the mayor had to respond. 1221 01:27:55,710 --> 01:27:58,250 Finally, he canceled the race late today. 1222 01:27:58,470 --> 01:27:59,470 Thank God. 1223 01:27:59,970 --> 01:28:01,330 My reaction is... 1224 01:28:01,331 --> 01:28:04,867 I'm glad they're coming to their senses and realizing 1225 01:28:04,868 --> 01:28:07,790 that races are going to be needed where it's truly needed. 1226 01:28:07,870 --> 01:28:09,510 You know, Paul Duplanc at the last minute, he 1227 01:28:09,511 --> 01:28:11,670 could have made that decision days and days ago. 1228 01:28:11,910 --> 01:28:12,910 We are very angry. 1229 01:28:13,070 --> 01:28:16,870 We spent thousands of dollars to bring our family here, pay for hotel rooms, 1230 01:28:17,070 --> 01:28:17,730 airline tickets. 1231 01:28:17,970 --> 01:28:21,570 We were still inside at the expo, buying tickets to the pasta dinner, 1232 01:28:21,630 --> 01:28:24,350 buying paraphernalia, spending hundreds of dollars. 1233 01:28:24,650 --> 01:28:28,510 There are people who left Paris yesterday thinking that the marathon had taken place. 1234 01:28:28,590 --> 01:28:30,734 They go through customs, immigration, and they're 1235 01:28:30,735 --> 01:28:33,011 told, you know, you're here for nothing, guys. 1236 01:28:33,070 --> 01:28:33,950 It's not cool. 1237 01:28:34,070 --> 01:28:35,590 Some runners say they're going home. 1238 01:28:35,610 --> 01:28:36,986 They're going home as soon as possible. 1239 01:28:37,010 --> 01:28:40,790 Others say they're going to stay in the city and try to enjoy it the best they can. 1240 01:28:41,340 --> 01:28:45,950 A few say they're running on Sunday, 26 miles, even without the race. 1241 01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:54,930 There was a marathon that was organized despite everything. 1242 01:28:54,970 --> 01:28:56,566 It's called the marathon despite everything. 1243 01:28:56,590 --> 01:29:01,132 Some ran on Sunday morning, while we had taken out corpses 1244 01:29:01,192 --> 01:29:03,750 from the line, close to the starting line, at two miles. 1245 01:29:04,050 --> 01:29:05,151 There was the corpse of a mother and her 1246 01:29:05,152 --> 01:29:07,791 daughter who had been taken out in the morning. 1247 01:29:08,710 --> 01:29:09,610 In the end, it's quite simple. 1248 01:29:09,690 --> 01:29:12,610 A small invitation on Facebook, and then we're back at 10 miles, 1249 01:29:12,730 --> 01:29:15,110 after a footing at Central Park. 1250 01:29:15,970 --> 01:29:19,350 Those who ran, some had eggs, rocks. 1251 01:29:19,950 --> 01:29:21,910 The crowd didn't want to see that. 1252 01:29:22,070 --> 01:29:25,933 And they didn't want to see people who were eager to run 1253 01:29:25,934 --> 01:29:29,310 in circumstances that were, on the other hand, dramatic. 1254 01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:38,075 The marathon movement, the whole running movement, 1255 01:29:38,076 --> 01:29:41,160 had to confront the fact that not everybody loves us. 1256 01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:46,900 That we socially, running had not achieved all that it could achieve. 1257 01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:52,040 That socially, even though we've grown, even though we're huge, we're actually 1258 01:29:52,041 --> 01:29:54,520 only huge in a very small segment of society. 1259 01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:56,941 And if you look at the average income of 1260 01:29:56,953 --> 01:29:59,360 marathon runners, it's over $100,000 a year. 1261 01:29:59,540 --> 01:30:03,020 Well, if you're living on Staten Island, you know, that's a different planet. 1262 01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:08,240 And that's not an activity that you feel you relate to. 1263 01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:17,880 And we realized that we should not continue to expect that poor people will 1264 01:30:17,881 --> 01:30:20,940 stand along the streets and cheer for rich people. 1265 01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:27,446 Noel Tamini must think that it's a little far 1266 01:30:27,447 --> 01:30:31,601 from the values he had promoted at the start. 1267 01:30:48,980 --> 01:30:54,100 As long as no one forbids us to go running in the forest at the time we want, 1268 01:30:54,370 --> 01:30:55,370 life is beautiful. 1269 01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:58,080 There's no need to complain too much. 1270 01:30:58,580 --> 01:30:59,240 It's true. 1271 01:30:59,580 --> 01:31:03,300 For the moment, we still feel free to go running when we want in the forest. 1272 01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:15,000 You know, it's like the Robert Frost thing, the road less taken. 1273 01:31:15,140 --> 01:31:16,820 You can always go on the road less taken. 1274 01:31:44,620 --> 01:31:50,820 The fact of reintegrating what I call the integral race, it's the race alone, 1275 01:31:51,060 --> 01:31:56,960 out of any popular gathering, out of any idea of competition. 1276 01:31:57,800 --> 01:32:00,190 But this kind of entering into the forest, out of the nature, 1277 01:32:00,191 --> 01:32:05,980 out of being alone with oneself, nothing can replace it. 1278 01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:07,760 People 1279 01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:17,280 will go out every single day and looking at their watches. 1280 01:32:17,780 --> 01:32:18,780 Throw the watch away. 1281 01:32:21,220 --> 01:32:22,240 Look at the stars. 1282 01:32:22,340 --> 01:32:23,600 Look at the sky. 1283 01:32:23,900 --> 01:32:24,900 Look at the... 1284 01:32:33,310 --> 01:32:36,430 Sport is still whatever we want to make of it. 1285 01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:10,720 Remember 1286 01:33:42,480 --> 01:33:45,268 when we sat in your car and you told me all about 1287 01:33:45,269 --> 01:33:49,080 the stars and how you'd make it up there one day. 1288 01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:53,440 Hum and whistle through and you would try. 1289 01:33:58,620 --> 01:34:05,460 You told me about the only one you'd ever read, never seen before. 1290 01:34:06,220 --> 01:34:11,360 Nothing else, it seemed important. 1291 01:34:11,540 --> 01:34:13,500 Everyone a disappointment. 1292 01:34:13,780 --> 01:34:16,420 So, oh, oh... 1293 01:34:42,300 --> 01:34:42,900 Monsieur! 1294 01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:44,600 Ah, d'accord, d'accord, d'accord. 1295 01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:45,920 What's the matter? 1296 01:34:46,060 --> 01:34:46,760 I'm charged. 1297 01:34:46,900 --> 01:34:47,920 Can I have one of each? 1298 01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:49,040 Yeah, please. 1299 01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:50,900 And you, really? 1300 01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:53,100 That's a... My magazine. 1301 01:34:53,460 --> 01:34:55,700 We have a magazine a long time ago. 1302 01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:57,040 30 years ago. 1303 01:34:57,360 --> 01:34:58,780 About the... about the running. 1304 01:34:58,960 --> 01:34:59,700 Courez tous avec nous. 1305 01:34:59,800 --> 01:35:00,180 Wow. 1306 01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:01,440 Courez tous avec nous. 1307 01:35:01,660 --> 01:35:02,820 Run all with us. 1308 01:35:02,940 --> 01:35:03,400 Yes. 1309 01:35:03,820 --> 01:35:04,820 Like today. 117002

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