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We're going to have a
handheld and turn them around.
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I mean, that way Keith's standing,
it looks like it's higher, right?
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Does he do that
from the second rope?
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Boom!
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This job to me is the greatest
life that I could ever live.
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For years, people told me that I
was too small, that I couldn't do this,
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that I couldn't do that, that
I wasn't going to make it.
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And I've shoved it
in everybody's face.
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There's no time
out for this man.
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I realized I can't be popular
with everybody all of the time.
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So in the meantime, I'm going to be popular
with me, and I'm going to be the best.
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There are definitely two lives of Shawn
Michaels, even as who he was before.
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You will not ever in your lives see a
man more charismatic, more flamboyant,
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or more talented than the
Heartbreak Kid Shawn Michaels.
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The greatest in-ring...
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performer...
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of all time.
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Being a prick doesn't
come naturally, Shawn.
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It did.
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As a dick.
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The showstopper, the
headliner, the main event!
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There was so much bad
blood between us, and I
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was always like, if I
see him, I'll kill him.
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I had so much anger about it.
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Nobody steals my spotlight!
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I want it all!
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Shawn Michaels can do absolutely anything,
any style, to perfection with anyone.
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When the bell rings...
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No one is as good as Shawn.
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I will give you a show like you
have never, ever seen before.
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Why?
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Because I can.
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The only man to
win every major title.
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You can't say
anybody was better.
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But also tormentor.
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It's like I'm in
self-destruct mode.
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I just knew that he
didn't love himself.
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There was something
in him that he despised.
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You're taking pain pills
at 12 in the afternoon.
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Belligerent, falling
down, staggering.
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Everything that you
have in your life is this.
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And it's all going away.
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On more than one occasion, I really
wanted to beat the hell out of Shawn.
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But I knew there was a good
man behind all this other crap.
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The biggest thing that he ever did is
turning his life around to where he is now.
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And so, yep, there
are two lives there.
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But there's one Shawn Michaels.
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The very best sports
entertainer in the world!
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Shawn is a developmental brand
that grooms WWE superstars.
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Any kind of count-out, DQ,
or whatever, ends the match.
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There are Shawn's fingerprints
in almost every talent in NXT.
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Shawn is very hands-on.
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Then he sits up behind
him and then whacks!
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He sold out arenas all around the
world when he was a heartbreak kid.
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He's in a different
place in his life now.
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He's humble.
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He wants to be
behind the scenes.
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It isn't about him.
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He wants to help others
achieve their dreams.
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You have to say it
with passion and anger.
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Here we go, guys.
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Three, two, one...
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Seeing Shawn today, it's sometimes hard
for people to believe that Shawn Michaels.
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Certain levels of talent
command certain levels of respect.
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His knowledge and his
wisdom of the business
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and all that stuff,
it's so valuable.
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Shawn Michaels' life is a
story that I'll never forget.
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And a lot of people
could relate to.
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He always wanted more.
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It was a life of never enough.
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And then his life
totally changes.
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A lot of us have that.
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If we're lucky.
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I think the Shawn Michaels
story is one that's really
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cool and one that all of
us can stand to learn from.
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I was born into
a military family.
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My father was in the Air Force.
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It was Michael
Shawn Hickenbottom.
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But everybody in my
family called me Shawn.
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My father was a pilot.
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So early on, we moved a lot.
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He was going to Vietnam.
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We went to England.
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Then Maryland.
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And then we moved to Texas.
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I was about eight-ish.
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From that point on, I
was in the state of Texas.
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You don't have long-lasting
friendships in the Air Force.
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The hardest part for making
friends is having the last name.
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The roll call.
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Hickenbottom?
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Michael Hickenbottom?
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Do you hear the
snickers all over the road?
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Hickenbottom?
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And of course you do.
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And it's like, son of a biscuit.
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I wish I had a
different last name.
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Shawn was well-loved.
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He was always very
quiet and very shy.
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Growing up, he
wasn't an extrovert.
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He was just a good,
friendly, nice little boy.
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And people liked him.
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He was involved in
sports all of his life.
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He just enjoyed
doing everything.
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I was a big fan
of playing football.
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Because of the contact.
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You know, contact and
athletics were appealing to me.
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And then I'm 12 years old, getting
to stay up late on a Saturday night.
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And this wrestling show starts.
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Southwest
Championship Wrestling.
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The beginning montage of the guys,
slow motions, jumping off the top rope.
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I was enthralled.
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It was just the neatest
thing I ever saw.
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The best in
professional wrestling.
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And I'm Steve.
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After the show, I walked out.
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You know, my mom
was in the kitchen.
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I said, I know what I'm
going to do when I grow up.
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And she said once, I said, I'm
going to be a professional wrestler.
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I was like, oh,
that's nice, honey.
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He began to talk about
that's what he wanted to do.
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And I was sure that ultimately
he would grow out of that.
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But he never did.
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Down at the Freeman Coliseum,
Shawn would periodically get to go.
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And oh, he saw Tully Blanchard.
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Wahoo McDaniels, Eddie
Mansfield, Scott Casey.
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Of course, then later, Ric
Flair was the wrestling god.
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And he would buy
wrestling magazines.
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And he would look at Ric Flair.
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And then he'd stand in the mirror
and try to talk like him and look like him.
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Being a wrestling fan, it was really
a black sheep source of mockery.
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It's not something you say
with a great deal of pride.
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It was just a relationship between
me and wrestling for a while.
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And my dad was an amateur
wrestler at the University of Iowa.
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So he was a real...
a real wrestler.
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And of course, he just gave
some gruff like, ah, that stuff's fake.
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The kindest thing I
could say about it was I
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considered it to be
an athletic soap opera.
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Which was... has always been my
description of professional wrestling.
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Then a new kid gets transferred,
but his name is Kenny Kent.
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I met Shawn the summer of 1980.
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We were sophomores
in high school, both 15.
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He would want to wrestle and throw around
his friends, and they didn't like it.
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And so I instantly became
his little tag team partner.
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And we would just bash each
other and throw each other around.
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And that's really what
developed our friendship.
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They practiced out in the pool.
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Frightening.
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Shawn would lift
him straight up.
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Kenny would hold him.
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And then they'd
fall into the pool.
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His way of practicing.
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Shawn dreamed of wrestling.
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He would call me and tell me these
matches that he would lay out and prepare.
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He was really obsessed with it.
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In that time... You struggle
back and forth with...
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People are telling me it's fake, but I
am there watching the guy... Whap!
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I mean, hitting the guy
and sweats flying off.
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There's something to it.
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They've got me
hook, line, and sinker.
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We were a very small school.
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We did not have a wrestling team, but
our senior year, we had a talent show.
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And it was Shawn's idea that me and
him were going to do a wrestling match.
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Everything was going quite well until I
threw Shawn off the stage, into the crowd,
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and beat his head on
the table a couple of times.
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And there's just blood
gushing all over his head.
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And people are going nuts.
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I think we came in second.
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We didn't win.
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We got beat by a
group of cheerleaders.
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So, you know, two guys in little
tighty-whities versus cheerleaders.
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They're going to win every time.
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We graduate.
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And then it's, what
are you going to do?
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You decided what you want?
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I still want to be a wrestler.
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I recognize that I
said it when I was 12.
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But it's just been a big, big...
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part of my life.
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Okay, that's awesome.
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That's not a possibility.
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But, you know, at 17,
you look at them and you
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think, you don't know
what you're talking about.
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We said, you're
going to college.
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There wasn't a lot of hope and
understanding in what I was doing.
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We went off to Southwest
Texas State University.
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When we lived together in college,
there were many nights I would hear him,
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and he's standing there
with his shirt off, and he'd
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be talking and screaming
at the mirror, practicing.
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At the end of his second
semester, I think his GPA was...
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.4.
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School just wasn't for him.
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And he was ready to make his
move into the wrestling world.
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Essentially, he said, I don't want to
waste any more of my time or your money.
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I am going to be a
professional wrestler.
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My dad played golf with
this guy, and apparently, he's
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the guy that's the local
promoter here in San Antonio.
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We go down there, and
Jose Lothario was there.
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From San Antonio, Texas,
superstar Jose Lothario.
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Yeah!
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Understood he was
a legitimate name.
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The gentleman's saying,
well, he has to be trained.
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Jose could do the
training if you wanted.
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It's going to cost $3,000.
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I thought about facing him when he was
35 or 40 years old, and having him say,
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Dad, if you had just given me the chance,
I could have been a professional wrestler.
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And I couldn't
face that thought.
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And so I said, what the hell?
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You know, I wake up every day never,
never forgetting what I did for a living.
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Sort of developed a
habit of getting up in the
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morning, stretching,
and then the heat pad.
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Over the years, you just come up with a
system that your body responds well to.
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I do some form of training
every day, you know,
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to be comfortable
for the rest of the day.
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I plan on getting,
you know, new knees,
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knee replacements and
shoulder replacements.
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Those things are going
to add to my quality of life.
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It's not like I got into
this stuff thinking, I want
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to be independently
wealthy and be 100% healthy.
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That doesn't happen.
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So I don't mind any of it.
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I don't think that's
some big, crazy sacrifice.
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I first came across
Shawn Michaels in 1983.
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Shawn was training with a gentleman
by the name of Jose Lothario.
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Jose was a big star in Houston,
Texas, Dallas, San Antonio.
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He was Hispanic, so
there was a luchador style.
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It was the aerial
side of things.
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Thankfully, in all of that
process, he saw that,
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oh, my goodness, he's
actually pretty good.
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It was worth the $3,000, period, for
him to get me my first job in Louisiana.
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That could not have
happened without Jose Lothario.
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The pride of Barrow
Beach, Florida, Terry Taylor!
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First time I met Shawn Michaels working
for Mid-South, there was this young,
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innocent, cheerful, vibrant
sort of lost young man.
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I was scared of everything.
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It was a lot of confusion,
a lot of unknown.
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How in God's name is
this supposed to go on?
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They came walking to the back, and Terry
Taylor was standing there at the curtain.
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I said, how long you
been in the business?
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And he goes, that
was my first match.
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I couldn't believe it,
because this isn't easy.
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Shawn Michaels.
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Very young man, and very inexperienced,
but he has a great deal of natural
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athletic ability, We
drove 3,000 miles a week.
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That means there's a lot of time
that you're in the car doing this.
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And he would ask questions.
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Young man who is quite handsome.
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I was very well-mannered, I was quiet,
and I wanted to do nothing but work.
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Some young people
come in, I know everything.
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Nothing like that with Shawn.
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Humble, passionate,
driven, hungry.
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At about six months,
the owner, Bill Watts,
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came to me, and he got
me set up in Kansas City.
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I was going to have
the opportunity, to
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begin to grow as a
wrestler, as a performer.
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We're hearing all this, like, this guy
Shawn Michaels, Shawn Michaels come in,
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and we're like, damn, nobody's
got any attention like this.
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What's wrong with us?
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We walked into the dressing
room, and this guy had real short hair,
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green tights, pulled
up to under his chest.
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Let me ask this nerd, like, hey, do
you know who Shawn Michaels is?
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And anybody goes,
I'm Shawn Michaels.
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And I was like, oh, damn.
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We got some work to do.
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They threw us together, because
they needed a match real quick.
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We didn't have
time to prepare for it.
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But it clicked.
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Marty Jannetty.
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Marty just carried himself
with such confidence.
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He was enjoying himself.
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He was outgoing.
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I was so sort of
shy, conservative.
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Shawn Michaels.
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Shawn came from
a military family.
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Shawn was protected from a lot of
the evils that lurk in the real world.
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And having some notoriety, being on
television, you've got women, you've got
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alcohol, you've got drugs, and
it's all readily available to you.
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Yeah, he liked it right away.
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At first, he wasn't old enough.
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So he had to wait
in the parking lot.
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We'd bring girls down to
him and beer down to him.
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Marty Jannetty one day said to me,
you know what, I see something in you.
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It's just dying to get out.
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He said, you just need
somebody to bring it out of you.
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And I'm going to bring it out.
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From the Showboat Hotel
and Casino in Las Vegas,
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Nevada, this is AWA
Championship Wrestling on ESPN.
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So I was 20 years old.
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TV tapings are in Las Vegas.
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At that time, Marty and I, you
know, I knew he was out there.
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So you just start
looking around.
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All of a sudden, there he is.
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He's down there playing
and go down there.
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I went and just doop,
doop, doop, pulled it down.
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I'm sitting there with him,
and all of a sudden, we
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hear this ding, ding,
ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
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Red lights go flashing around.
298
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And Shawn hit triple seven.
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He wins $1,750.
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The first time.
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00:14:26,285 --> 00:14:31,320
The irony of it now, like, oh, this
place, Vegas and the nightlife of
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Vegas and everything
else would be my downfall.
303
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It started later that night.
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It's the first line of Yale.
305
00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,860
You know, the
first line of blow.
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00:14:42,060 --> 00:14:45,100
And it's, oh, my gosh, this
is the greatest thing ever.
307
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And just this whole
world opens up.
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I'd have never been able
to get that guy out of me.
309
00:14:51,685 --> 00:14:53,300
And Marty is the
guy that helps me.
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I tap into that.
311
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I don't even know how
much I knew was there.
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Me and Shawn partied Monday night, Tuesday
night, Wednesday night, Thursday night.
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Come Friday, we'll burn out.
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Big Van Vader, he
comes to hang out with us.
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00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:10,640
He looked at Curt Hennig, and he goes,
I thought you said these guys partied.
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00:15:11,710 --> 00:15:13,550
And Curt said, they
don't start until midnight.
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00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,420
The Midnight Rockers, what
a sensational pair they are.
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It was like magic.
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The Judas Priest song come on.
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They love to party.
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00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:24,560
They have taken the A.W.A.
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by storm.
323
00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,760
The move happening faster
than we can even talk about it.
324
00:15:27,820 --> 00:15:30,220
They get up on a bigger roof
on the arenas to hold these two.
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00:15:32,580 --> 00:15:34,020
Sensational to say the least.
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Livin' after midnight.
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Rockin' till we're gone.
328
00:15:42,020 --> 00:15:45,040
Midnight Rockers had a
hell of a run in the A.W.A.
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that had TV on ESPN.
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00:15:47,025 --> 00:15:50,480
The World Tag Team Championship is
Marty Jannetty and Shawn Michaels' goal.
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They were smaller guys.
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00:15:51,681 --> 00:15:55,200
But they could work with the
Giants and have a great match.
333
00:16:05,650 --> 00:16:10,170
The blood match, if you will, was the
first time that a national audience got
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exposed to the talent
of the Midnight Rockers.
335
00:16:13,370 --> 00:16:15,770
This is absolute mayhem.
336
00:16:16,110 --> 00:16:19,310
The match itself was
very bloody, very gory.
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00:16:19,550 --> 00:16:23,070
One of the toughest, roughest
matches that we have ever seen.
338
00:16:23,450 --> 00:16:25,527
That was kind of like
a defining moment in
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their career that they
were made at that level.
340
00:16:30,050 --> 00:16:33,590
If we was on the road 300 days
a year, we partied 290 of them.
341
00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,190
We used to do a lot of drugs.
342
00:16:36,290 --> 00:16:37,610
There was a lot
of powder around.
343
00:16:38,250 --> 00:16:40,510
You look at rock stars
and you look at rock bands.
344
00:16:40,830 --> 00:16:44,350
There was a tendency to want
to go wild and destroy things.
345
00:16:44,930 --> 00:16:46,090
It's fun when you're young.
346
00:16:46,370 --> 00:16:47,930
Because you feel like a rebel.
347
00:16:48,230 --> 00:16:49,250
We've made it, man.
348
00:16:49,310 --> 00:16:50,310
Look at this.
349
00:16:50,490 --> 00:16:52,288
Throw a beer bottle
up against the wall, and
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00:16:52,289 --> 00:16:54,090
it's like, all right,
we'll pay for it later.
351
00:16:54,390 --> 00:16:57,290
We always did the job, but
it was just burning all night.
352
00:16:57,291 --> 00:17:02,310
Destroyed a room with a
showboat, and we got the entire AWA.
353
00:17:02,510 --> 00:17:04,250
The entire company
got kicked out of there.
354
00:17:05,230 --> 00:17:08,990
It wasn't very long that
we had a reputation.
355
00:17:09,330 --> 00:17:12,610
And once you get it,
everybody else knows you got it.
356
00:17:14,330 --> 00:17:16,470
WWE was starting to
really separate itself.
357
00:17:16,930 --> 00:17:18,006
That's where you wanted to go.
358
00:17:18,030 --> 00:17:19,310
That's where you set your goals.
359
00:17:20,570 --> 00:17:23,750
Finally, Marty got the
call to go into New York.
360
00:17:24,750 --> 00:17:27,270
In 1987, the Rockers won.
361
00:17:27,290 --> 00:17:29,570
It started in Buffalo, New York.
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00:17:29,900 --> 00:17:32,450
Marty and Shawn looked
at this as their big break.
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00:17:33,870 --> 00:17:38,786
That night in the bar, the
other talent looked at Shawn and
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00:17:38,787 --> 00:17:42,630
Marty as these two young
punks with a chip on their shoulder.
365
00:17:42,870 --> 00:17:46,930
They're gonna have to earn the
respect of the WWE locker room.
366
00:17:47,250 --> 00:17:48,790
We were scared, man.
367
00:17:48,870 --> 00:17:49,870
We were scared.
368
00:17:49,950 --> 00:17:52,910
So that night, that's why
we kind of kept to ourself.
369
00:17:53,710 --> 00:17:56,530
And Terry Garvin come up
and he said, No, don't do that.
370
00:17:56,590 --> 00:17:57,170
Don't do that.
371
00:17:57,290 --> 00:17:58,290
Y'all have to mingle.
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00:17:59,050 --> 00:18:02,410
And then all of a sudden,
Jimmy Jack Funk, he came over.
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00:18:02,710 --> 00:18:04,290
He's hammering
down these drinks.
374
00:18:04,530 --> 00:18:06,930
And he's like, hey,
you guys be partiers.
375
00:18:07,230 --> 00:18:09,010
He starts eating his glass.
376
00:18:10,330 --> 00:18:11,630
Come on, let's do it.
377
00:18:12,070 --> 00:18:13,586
I at least got to
be a little bit tough.
378
00:18:13,610 --> 00:18:15,290
So then I make wine
glass all over my head.
379
00:18:16,990 --> 00:18:18,050
And that was it.
380
00:18:18,250 --> 00:18:19,530
Turn around, I leave.
381
00:18:20,630 --> 00:18:23,670
I would never say we didn't
earn our reputations, any of that.
382
00:18:23,790 --> 00:18:26,070
But the wrestling business
is one giant fish story.
383
00:18:26,071 --> 00:18:27,759
All right, so something
happened once to the
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00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,970
wrestling business that
gets magnified to ten times.
385
00:18:30,210 --> 00:18:34,667
Some people say that Shawn
or Marty threw a beer bottle,
386
00:18:34,668 --> 00:18:39,150
which started a chain of
events that couldn't be stopped.
387
00:18:39,630 --> 00:18:42,970
And then these two guys, I mean,
they're in there just getting crazy,
388
00:18:43,090 --> 00:18:45,630
tearing up the bar, throwing
stuff all over the place.
389
00:18:46,590 --> 00:18:48,490
That is not at all
what happened.
390
00:18:50,250 --> 00:18:53,470
The next day, Shawn
and Marty were fired.
391
00:18:54,285 --> 00:18:55,950
And it was over for them.
392
00:18:55,951 --> 00:18:56,630
After one day.
393
00:18:56,945 --> 00:19:00,230
From just the story and
the hearsay and innuendo.
394
00:19:01,730 --> 00:19:04,370
I normally give reasons as
to why I want to do something.
395
00:19:04,690 --> 00:19:08,450
And I'm sure I did with them,
but that was one and done out.
396
00:19:10,230 --> 00:19:11,770
He said, guys don't like it.
397
00:19:11,930 --> 00:19:13,790
He said, they won't
let you make it here.
398
00:19:14,010 --> 00:19:18,690
In my mind, I'm
23 and it's over.
399
00:19:19,550 --> 00:19:21,550
That was my one big shot.
400
00:19:22,550 --> 00:19:25,070
It happened now and it's gone.
401
00:19:28,890 --> 00:19:32,530
Take a look at Takeover,
we'll watch it, and I'll scull you.
402
00:19:32,750 --> 00:19:33,750
Okay.
403
00:19:34,870 --> 00:19:37,697
Shawn Michaels put his
heart and soul into being
404
00:19:37,698 --> 00:19:40,350
the best pro wrestler
that he could possibly be.
405
00:19:40,510 --> 00:19:44,870
And he does the exact same
thing as a coach and as a producer.
406
00:19:45,190 --> 00:19:46,366
Stop there and
look at each other.
407
00:19:46,390 --> 00:19:48,210
Can that stuff
take a little longer?
408
00:19:48,211 --> 00:19:52,670
He will find ways to pick apart
every little thing to make it better.
409
00:19:52,970 --> 00:19:53,590
Same for the head.
410
00:19:53,650 --> 00:19:54,650
Yeah.
411
00:19:54,690 --> 00:19:56,408
You can't hold back on
that because it's going
412
00:19:56,409 --> 00:19:57,730
to cause you not to
get all the way around.
413
00:19:58,510 --> 00:20:02,610
Shawn has this amazing ability
to instill a confidence in you.
414
00:20:02,910 --> 00:20:04,990
This was tremendous
for the Bronsons.
415
00:20:05,090 --> 00:20:06,766
And when someone like
Shawn Michaels gives that
416
00:20:06,767 --> 00:20:09,211
to you, that's all the
motivation that you need.
417
00:20:17,540 --> 00:20:23,860
The unfortunate byproduct of Shawn and
Marty being fired after their first day in
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00:20:23,861 --> 00:20:28,460
WWE is, Marty and Shawn had
burned their bridge in the AWA.
419
00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:29,800
Where do you go?
420
00:20:30,070 --> 00:20:32,320
Welcome once again to
Continental Championship Wrestling.
421
00:20:32,321 --> 00:20:35,600
We ended up in
Birmingham, Alabama.
422
00:20:36,300 --> 00:20:37,300
Continental Wrestling.
423
00:20:37,740 --> 00:20:40,900
I was wrestling in front of 25
people at 300 bucks a week.
424
00:20:41,100 --> 00:20:46,420
If you wanted to get $50 in cash, get
your other $50 and below, you could do
425
00:20:46,421 --> 00:20:48,800
that, which is probably what
I did nine times out of ten.
426
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,960
I heard him talk about
how depressed he was.
427
00:20:53,961 --> 00:20:56,540
At that time, we was
doing a lot of cocaine.
428
00:20:57,120 --> 00:21:00,220
And we would talk about wrestling,
and we would watch wrestling videos,
429
00:21:00,380 --> 00:21:01,380
and we would study.
430
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,720
I had to go home to my girlfriend
like at 2 or 3 or 4 in the morning.
431
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,060
Sometimes the next
morning, the sun was out.
432
00:21:07,220 --> 00:21:09,970
And evidently, the
way he says it, I let him
433
00:21:09,971 --> 00:21:12,360
down because I didn't
stay with him more.
434
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:13,340
And he was by himself.
435
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,520
When you're doing cocaine,
you don't want to be alone.
436
00:21:18,180 --> 00:21:23,580
When you're up at 4 o'clock in the morning
coming down from the Yale, that's like...
437
00:21:24,120 --> 00:21:25,200
it's very dreary.
438
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,460
Because the low
is just so really low.
439
00:21:29,020 --> 00:21:32,140
I was like, man, if I had a gun,
this is one of those times that I was
440
00:21:32,141 --> 00:21:33,860
reckless enough to
have the balls to do it.
441
00:21:34,900 --> 00:21:37,080
At that time, it would
have wrecked my parents.
442
00:21:37,300 --> 00:21:41,020
You know, their suffering is
what pulled me back from that.
443
00:21:41,940 --> 00:21:44,300
But the thing is, I
never told them the truth.
444
00:21:44,620 --> 00:21:46,235
So I'm not telling like,
geez, mom, I'm just
445
00:21:46,236 --> 00:21:48,021
partying and getting
hammered and doing blow.
446
00:21:49,820 --> 00:21:53,140
Sean and Marty, they
wanted to come back.
447
00:21:53,390 --> 00:21:59,280
I remember Pat Patterson giving them the
advice to continue to work and continue to
448
00:21:59,281 --> 00:22:04,220
reverse the reputation that you
have and prove to us that you belong.
449
00:22:04,870 --> 00:22:06,920
And that's what
Marty and Sean did.
450
00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:10,080
Pat was instrumental in
saying, Vince, he's a great talent.
451
00:22:10,360 --> 00:22:13,780
And it was difficult for me to make
that decision because he was a jerk.
452
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,280
He was doing some stupid things.
453
00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:16,360
But Pat was right.
454
00:22:17,300 --> 00:22:19,700
I was there in 88
when they came back.
455
00:22:19,860 --> 00:22:23,120
It had been a year since
the Rockers had come back.
456
00:22:23,121 --> 00:22:24,836
They were kind of
screwed up on their first day.
457
00:22:24,860 --> 00:22:26,856
We're going to bring you
back, but you're on probation.
458
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,340
You know, keep
your s*** together.
459
00:22:29,700 --> 00:22:30,700
Yes, sir.
460
00:22:31,300 --> 00:22:34,710
These guys are
excitement personified.
461
00:22:34,910 --> 00:22:36,110
They'll be high flying.
462
00:22:36,350 --> 00:22:38,290
I met Sean in 1990.
463
00:22:38,830 --> 00:22:41,130
They were pretty much,
you know, fun loving guys.
464
00:22:41,530 --> 00:22:45,230
They even tested me a little bit
with their, you know, their antics.
465
00:22:45,490 --> 00:22:48,030
Actually, you know, they were
both pretty much peckerheads.
466
00:22:48,250 --> 00:22:50,550
I mean, I got to call
a spade a spade.
467
00:22:50,730 --> 00:22:53,490
The Rockers got a bag full of
tricks and you ain't seen nothing yet.
468
00:22:53,491 --> 00:22:54,870
So get ready because
here we come.
469
00:22:56,370 --> 00:23:01,390
They were definitely innovators
doing tandem moves together.
470
00:23:01,770 --> 00:23:04,010
You know, such a cohesive unit.
471
00:23:04,290 --> 00:23:06,110
The fans were nuts for them.
472
00:23:06,210 --> 00:23:07,250
Especially the women.
473
00:23:07,450 --> 00:23:09,210
You know, the
long hair and all that.
474
00:23:10,850 --> 00:23:16,150
There was a transitional moment happening
in the business where the athleticism was
475
00:23:16,151 --> 00:23:20,190
picking up the ability to do things
that Sean and Marty could do.
476
00:23:20,850 --> 00:23:22,090
Oh, what a backdrop!
477
00:23:22,091 --> 00:23:27,210
Tag team wrestling now has been impacted
a great deal by what Marty and I did.
478
00:23:29,290 --> 00:23:31,730
First time you ever
make a magazine is huge.
479
00:23:31,990 --> 00:23:35,310
And we would always go through the stores,
stop and look at the magazine racks.
480
00:23:35,530 --> 00:23:36,930
I remember one
time I heard Sean.
481
00:23:37,130 --> 00:23:38,130
Oh my God!
482
00:23:38,350 --> 00:23:39,690
And it was a picture of us.
483
00:23:39,790 --> 00:23:42,910
It said, from imitators
to innovators.
484
00:23:43,050 --> 00:23:44,750
And he's holding it up
and he was so proud.
485
00:23:44,890 --> 00:23:47,290
And I was like,
oh man, we did it.
486
00:23:48,070 --> 00:23:49,070
Shawn Michaels!
487
00:23:49,330 --> 00:23:50,330
Bernie Jannetty!
488
00:23:50,670 --> 00:23:51,790
The Rocker!
489
00:23:52,510 --> 00:23:56,090
That's a real notch in the belt to
be on Saturday Night's Main Event.
490
00:23:56,330 --> 00:24:00,970
Saturday Night's Main Event was finally
going to be the Rockers winning the Tag
491
00:24:00,971 --> 00:24:04,030
Team Championship against Bret
Hart and Jim the Animal Neidhart.
492
00:24:04,810 --> 00:24:07,270
It was going to be five stars.
493
00:24:07,490 --> 00:24:09,450
It was going to be as good
a match as we ever had.
494
00:24:11,230 --> 00:24:15,970
We're in the process of having that
match and all of a sudden, the rope breaks.
495
00:24:17,590 --> 00:24:21,830
Bret, the consummate pro, he
understands it's not live, it's taped.
496
00:24:21,831 --> 00:24:23,130
We can fix all this.
497
00:24:23,230 --> 00:24:23,610
It's taped.
498
00:24:23,810 --> 00:24:26,830
All you got to do is grab a
hold and then they'll fix it.
499
00:24:26,910 --> 00:24:29,430
And then you're still in that
hold and the match can carry on.
500
00:24:29,610 --> 00:24:31,870
And I told him, I
said, just fix the rope.
501
00:24:32,030 --> 00:24:32,730
Fix the rope.
502
00:24:32,790 --> 00:24:33,330
Fix the rope.
503
00:24:33,430 --> 00:24:34,430
We'll take care of this.
504
00:24:34,770 --> 00:24:37,370
And then we get word
just to continue without it.
505
00:24:37,590 --> 00:24:39,870
So, that's what we do.
506
00:24:40,490 --> 00:24:44,030
It was a disaster and
I was so sick about it.
507
00:24:44,530 --> 00:24:46,270
We get our championship victory.
508
00:24:46,330 --> 00:24:50,728
We are doing our best
to look excited in what
509
00:24:50,729 --> 00:24:54,570
is this huge, steaming
pile of crap in the ring.
510
00:24:54,810 --> 00:24:56,230
It just looked horrible.
511
00:24:56,350 --> 00:24:57,770
So, the match never aired.
512
00:24:58,350 --> 00:25:02,310
Vince calls me and said, we're not
going to acknowledge that you won.
513
00:25:02,450 --> 00:25:03,850
We're going to
give the belts back.
514
00:25:05,570 --> 00:25:06,570
I go, okay.
515
00:25:06,710 --> 00:25:08,686
Are we going to have
another opportunity to do that?
516
00:25:08,710 --> 00:25:10,830
No, we're probably just
going to go another direction.
517
00:25:13,130 --> 00:25:17,210
Unbelievably disappointed because that's
not what you imagine that moment being.
518
00:25:17,470 --> 00:25:17,950
Done.
519
00:25:18,030 --> 00:25:19,030
It's over.
520
00:25:24,750 --> 00:25:27,510
We were on the road
300 days a year for years.
521
00:25:29,590 --> 00:25:31,670
Same hotel, same rent-a-car.
522
00:25:33,030 --> 00:25:34,710
Some of the same girls.
523
00:25:40,630 --> 00:25:43,070
I remember we were in Denver.
524
00:25:43,590 --> 00:25:46,730
Roddy Piper came into the
room and we had a few girls there.
525
00:25:47,065 --> 00:25:49,550
And Roddy kept
bragging on Shawn.
526
00:25:50,010 --> 00:25:52,432
He was stirring up the
pot as far as saying, you
527
00:25:52,433 --> 00:25:55,230
know, I could be a singles
and have great success.
528
00:25:55,231 --> 00:25:56,910
And things like that.
529
00:25:57,370 --> 00:25:59,586
And he'd look at me and go,
well, you got to work on you.
530
00:25:59,610 --> 00:26:01,050
You're still rough
around the edges.
531
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,650
I was like, Roddy, shouldn't we
talk about that some other time?
532
00:26:05,490 --> 00:26:07,890
And Shawn shoved
me at that point.
533
00:26:10,310 --> 00:26:12,646
Everybody got in a fight
because everybody was
534
00:26:12,647 --> 00:26:14,870
not in their, you know,
best frame of mind.
535
00:26:15,030 --> 00:26:16,030
Like all the time.
536
00:26:16,750 --> 00:26:18,350
And he tackled
me in the hallway.
537
00:26:18,570 --> 00:26:21,650
And then I didn't want to hit him
once, let alone, you know, over and over.
538
00:26:21,870 --> 00:26:25,210
I had blood like, it looked like, you
know, gutted a deer or something.
539
00:26:25,230 --> 00:26:29,590
You have a speculation that Molly Jannetty
and Shawn Michaels are not getting along.
540
00:26:29,730 --> 00:26:33,630
You have a speculation that Shawn Michaels
is kind of wanting to go on his own.
541
00:26:33,750 --> 00:26:36,170
All of my success at
that point was tag teams.
542
00:26:36,310 --> 00:26:39,990
But there was never a time
in my career where someone
543
00:26:40,090 --> 00:26:43,130
didn't say to me, like, I
think you've got some talent.
544
00:26:43,270 --> 00:26:45,470
It was eventually going
to come down to me.
545
00:26:46,790 --> 00:26:50,770
I remember when the first time he told me,
I want to be the world champion one day.
546
00:26:50,810 --> 00:26:53,190
I don't want to tag
the rest of our career.
547
00:26:53,430 --> 00:26:54,930
I just need you to let me know.
548
00:26:54,931 --> 00:26:57,070
When you're ready for
that, don't spring it on me.
549
00:26:57,130 --> 00:26:58,570
And then he sprung
it on me anyway.
550
00:27:00,710 --> 00:27:03,570
Welcome to the barbershop,
ladies and gentlemen.
551
00:27:04,070 --> 00:27:05,750
Let's welcome them right now.
552
00:27:06,130 --> 00:27:07,430
They're the Rockers.
553
00:27:10,410 --> 00:27:14,010
Recently there's been a lot of
controversy, a lot of rumors flying, guys.
554
00:27:14,290 --> 00:27:16,050
Maybe you guys
are going to break up.
555
00:27:16,250 --> 00:27:17,690
You've been having
some problems.
556
00:27:17,970 --> 00:27:21,409
I didn't become familiar
with Shawn until he
557
00:27:21,410 --> 00:27:24,910
showed up in WWE with
Marty Jannetty as the Rocker.
558
00:27:24,930 --> 00:27:27,350
That's my first introduction
to Shawn Michaels.
559
00:27:28,050 --> 00:27:29,690
See, one without the other.
560
00:27:33,340 --> 00:27:34,980
I just knew he was
going to do that.
561
00:27:39,970 --> 00:27:44,530
I would argue the barbershop window is
the greatest tag team breakup of all time.
562
00:27:44,990 --> 00:27:48,050
It is the standard bearer
for turning on a friend.
563
00:27:48,710 --> 00:27:49,310
It's super good.
564
00:27:49,530 --> 00:27:50,530
Oh, he laid again.
565
00:27:51,790 --> 00:27:53,610
Oh, he got me back for Denver.
566
00:27:54,995 --> 00:27:56,430
Is there a problem?
567
00:27:56,830 --> 00:27:57,830
Oh, my God.
568
00:27:58,150 --> 00:28:05,410
It was so effective that it makes Shawn
one of the most hated men in wrestling.
569
00:28:06,190 --> 00:28:09,310
Shawn Michaels changed
forever on that day.
570
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:19,995
I had this strange thing
with Marty because without
571
00:28:19,996 --> 00:28:24,420
him, so much of the good
doesn't happen for me.
572
00:28:24,660 --> 00:28:27,380
But there's a ceiling on
being a tag team, period.
573
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,617
Whether it's called a
leading man as opposed to
574
00:28:30,618 --> 00:28:33,221
a leading duo, it's
just a natural evolution.
575
00:28:33,500 --> 00:28:38,040
Now everybody is going to find out
what Shawn Michaels has known all along,
576
00:28:38,730 --> 00:28:41,154
that he is without a doubt
the hottest thing the World
577
00:28:41,155 --> 00:28:44,300
Wrestling Federation
has ever, ever laid eyes on.
578
00:28:50,140 --> 00:28:53,082
The Heartbreak Kid Shawn
Michaels was something
579
00:28:53,083 --> 00:28:55,700
that Shawn just pretty
much came up with.
580
00:28:55,780 --> 00:29:00,280
I don't think that anybody really
mapped out the Heartbreak Kid.
581
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,980
It's sort of an Elvis
meets Freddie Mercury.
582
00:29:05,780 --> 00:29:09,780
Shawn Michaels is
leaving the building.
583
00:29:09,980 --> 00:29:15,000
It was allowing me a vehicle
to let this other person out.
584
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,046
To get out there in
front of a bunch of people
585
00:29:18,047 --> 00:29:20,660
and you can just be
somebody you've never been.
586
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,300
Has this guy got it all or what?
587
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,360
No, I don't know where
all that came from.
588
00:29:24,460 --> 00:29:25,300
I really don't.
589
00:29:25,380 --> 00:29:27,940
He figured Shawn Michaels
could do whatever he wanted to.
590
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:29,440
What, an alter ego?
591
00:29:29,580 --> 00:29:30,060
Maybe.
592
00:29:30,260 --> 00:29:33,250
The Kentucky Waterfall
mullet alone, probably
593
00:29:33,251 --> 00:29:35,620
one of the greatest
mullets of all time.
594
00:29:35,780 --> 00:29:36,480
He is arrogant.
595
00:29:36,780 --> 00:29:37,780
He's talking.
596
00:29:37,820 --> 00:29:40,220
The dangling earrings,
the Village People outfit.
597
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:41,940
Your girlfriend wants him.
598
00:29:42,140 --> 00:29:44,040
You're gonna go
up and kick his ass.
599
00:29:44,180 --> 00:29:46,420
But maybe he's gonna kick
yours and take her anyway.
600
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,400
And that's where his heat was.
601
00:29:48,900 --> 00:29:49,960
I was a pretty kid.
602
00:29:50,220 --> 00:29:51,340
I was a pretty man.
603
00:29:51,700 --> 00:29:53,180
I don't mind telling
you at one time.
604
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,961
Could play the part of
Mr. Confident and everything
605
00:29:55,962 --> 00:29:57,860
else and could do
everything under the sun.
606
00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,120
Couldn't do a lick.
607
00:29:59,405 --> 00:30:01,640
Elvis and Freddie
Mercury were on stage.
608
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:02,800
They were so...
609
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,440
frickin' positive.
610
00:30:04,790 --> 00:30:06,820
But in their lives,
they struggled.
611
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:12,160
There was something there between me and
those individuals that I could relate to.
612
00:30:12,380 --> 00:30:14,100
You're not comfortable
with who you are.
613
00:30:14,140 --> 00:30:15,476
You're not comfortable
with yourself.
614
00:30:15,500 --> 00:30:17,880
Not knowing who I
was as a human being.
615
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,457
Out there, you're
playing this role, but you
616
00:30:21,458 --> 00:30:24,761
can do it with just
unbridled confidence.
617
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:29,500
And you absolutely cannot do it
by yourself in your own hotel room.
618
00:30:29,805 --> 00:30:32,440
I am a high-performance,
state-of-the-art wrestling machine.
619
00:30:32,441 --> 00:30:35,606
I think any great
character will be confused
620
00:30:35,607 --> 00:30:37,980
between the human
being and the character.
621
00:30:38,420 --> 00:30:43,160
And Shawn Higginbottom kind of morphed
into the Heartbreak Kid at all times.
622
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,420
Shawn was becoming
a little bit more difficult.
623
00:30:45,820 --> 00:30:49,280
And the Intercontinental title
is coming to the sexiest man!
624
00:30:49,860 --> 00:30:54,660
The WWE was still the land of the giants,
and there were still a lot of big guys.
625
00:30:55,105 --> 00:30:59,080
And Shawn wanted to break through
what he considered a glass ceiling of,
626
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:07,100
I'm not 6'8", I'm not 300 pounds, I want
to be what I am, and I want to be the guy.
627
00:31:07,740 --> 00:31:13,780
When you are that talented, and that
hell-bent on succeeding, to have the chip
628
00:31:13,781 --> 00:31:17,220
on your shoulder of being the little
guy, to get to where he needs to be,
629
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,336
to stand his ground, he had
to fight for what he wanted.
630
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,504
I was at the very least
as good or better than, you
631
00:31:22,505 --> 00:31:25,360
know, anybody else that I
was sharing a locker room with.
632
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,020
I was getting an opportunity that not
many guys like me were gonna get.
633
00:31:29,260 --> 00:31:30,940
We gotta do it,
Intercontinental Champion!
634
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:37,080
Shawn may have been 6'1", but his eagle
and the chip on his shoulder made him 9'5".
635
00:31:37,081 --> 00:31:40,100
Shawn Michaels, he's our
Intercontinental Champion!
636
00:31:40,540 --> 00:31:45,300
By 92, 93, Intercontinental Champion
at the time, we're looking for Shawn to
637
00:31:45,301 --> 00:31:48,580
really step up and
become a huge star for us.
638
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,000
One thing I did have is I
wasn't scared of anything.
639
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,620
I was the most dangerous person in
the world because I had nothing to lose.
640
00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:01,840
And when you are like that in a creative
line of work, you are freaking unbeatable.
641
00:32:08,860 --> 00:32:12,928
In the process of studying
Shawn Michaels' matches, the one
642
00:32:12,929 --> 00:32:16,000
that many people go back to
is the infamous ladder match.
643
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,320
The match that Shawn Michaels and Razor
Ramon made famous at WrestleMania 10.
644
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,200
We are making history here!
645
00:32:22,500 --> 00:32:26,880
So right before WrestleMania 10 leading
up, there was a suspension with Shawn
646
00:32:26,881 --> 00:32:29,080
where Shawn had been out
of the company for a while.
647
00:32:29,300 --> 00:32:31,700
Shawn left as the
Intercontinental Champion.
648
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,580
Yeah, he failed a
drug test for roids.
649
00:32:34,860 --> 00:32:38,320
At that time, brother, pills were
being passed around in bars.
650
00:32:38,580 --> 00:32:41,080
Like, guys go, here man,
Canadian Vibe, here, take this.
651
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,700
Shawn did not feel that he should
have been suspended, was pissed off.
652
00:32:46,500 --> 00:32:50,721
Vince didn't want to put up with him,
thought he was an out of control egomaniac.
653
00:32:50,820 --> 00:32:55,500
And they tell Shawn to send the belt back
and he says, no, I'm not sending it back.
654
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,880
Shawn decides he
wants to come back.
655
00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,820
Well, Razor is
Intercontinental Champion.
656
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,320
So take both championship
belts, hang them above the ring.
657
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:04,840
You fight to climb the ladder.
658
00:33:04,860 --> 00:33:08,800
Whoever gets championships above
the ring, that's your true champion.
659
00:33:09,060 --> 00:33:12,600
The two Intercontinental
Championship belts hanging from above.
660
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:17,440
For the following
contest, there are no rules.
661
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:30,820
It's the most barbaric, insane car
crash excitement you've ever seen.
662
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,960
I was able to have a presence
that I don't think they knew that I had.
663
00:33:39,300 --> 00:33:41,920
It isn't about size,
it is about presence.
664
00:33:45,900 --> 00:33:48,260
Shawn actually lost the match.
665
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,226
But it put Shawn at a
different level that people
666
00:33:52,227 --> 00:33:55,841
believed this little
bastard could do anything.
667
00:33:58,930 --> 00:34:05,230
If you didn't before, or you didn't want
to believe, Shawn made you believe.
668
00:34:11,530 --> 00:34:13,490
She closed it, just
dropped it to the side.
669
00:34:13,730 --> 00:34:16,350
Boom, and then she said, okay,
mister, here we go, whatever.
670
00:34:16,710 --> 00:34:18,350
I don't know, just
throwing it out there.
671
00:34:18,470 --> 00:34:21,310
This weekend we have
one of our bigger events.
672
00:34:21,510 --> 00:34:22,690
Five-man ladder match.
673
00:34:23,490 --> 00:34:25,170
Someone will be
holding that right there.
674
00:34:25,450 --> 00:34:29,530
Many, many years ago, it was
just two of us and one ladder.
675
00:34:29,810 --> 00:34:32,930
And now these young men and women
have taken it to a whole other level.
676
00:34:32,931 --> 00:34:34,710
You got a lot of moving parts.
677
00:34:34,730 --> 00:34:37,601
I always dreamed of
being in a ladder match,
678
00:34:37,613 --> 00:34:40,111
obviously, because
of Shawn and Razor.
679
00:34:41,790 --> 00:34:47,110
Ladder matches are about crazy stunts,
big falls, the car crash come to life.
680
00:34:47,330 --> 00:34:49,190
He is the face of
the ladder match.
681
00:34:49,350 --> 00:34:51,110
And to have him kind
of help us out, have him
682
00:34:51,190 --> 00:34:53,110
kind of watch over us,
you can't dream it up.
683
00:34:53,290 --> 00:34:54,290
It's perfect.
684
00:35:01,590 --> 00:35:04,070
I met him in the
locker room in 1993.
685
00:35:05,030 --> 00:35:08,410
And wanted to know if I would be
interested in becoming his partner.
686
00:35:08,430 --> 00:35:08,890
Shawn is a bodyguard.
687
00:35:09,210 --> 00:35:14,250
And the first thing out of Shawn's mouth
is, just so you know, everybody hates us.
688
00:35:15,130 --> 00:35:18,070
The bodyguard position was 24-7.
689
00:35:18,310 --> 00:35:20,410
It wasn't just on
television persona.
690
00:35:20,890 --> 00:35:22,650
He had a lot of people
that didn't like him.
691
00:35:23,430 --> 00:35:27,170
Shawn Michaels was misunderstood
all throughout his career.
692
00:35:27,330 --> 00:35:30,230
There was a certain
perception that he was a, frankly.
693
00:35:30,970 --> 00:35:32,150
Shawn was selfish.
694
00:35:32,510 --> 00:35:34,370
Shawn did have an
out-of-control ego.
695
00:35:34,590 --> 00:35:36,890
And Shawn did feel he was
better than everybody else.
696
00:35:38,430 --> 00:35:38,750
He was successful.
697
00:35:39,110 --> 00:35:43,450
And to take it to the next level, you
have to start looking out for yourself.
698
00:35:43,810 --> 00:35:44,870
It's not a team sport.
699
00:35:45,650 --> 00:35:51,930
The one thing that was the saving grace
for Shawn was, he was so good in the ring.
700
00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:55,890
As a performer, if you work with a
guy that makes you look that good,
701
00:35:56,050 --> 00:35:58,490
I don't care what you think of
him, you want to work with him.
702
00:35:59,090 --> 00:36:05,270
Shawn Michaels, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall,
123kid, and then Paul Levesque, Triple H.
703
00:36:05,630 --> 00:36:07,590
These were guys that
loved hanging out together.
704
00:36:07,591 --> 00:36:12,010
And hence, the
clique began to form.
705
00:36:13,350 --> 00:36:14,890
We all just hit it off, man.
706
00:36:14,930 --> 00:36:17,750
It was, you know, all we did was
talk nonstop about the business.
707
00:36:17,990 --> 00:36:20,450
And, you know, we were
all just so passionate about it.
708
00:36:20,550 --> 00:36:23,690
The perception was that the clique
was all-knowing and all-powerful.
709
00:36:23,790 --> 00:36:25,771
And that if you crossed
the clique, they'll
710
00:36:25,772 --> 00:36:27,850
just go to events and
you'll be blackballed.
711
00:36:28,150 --> 00:36:29,590
They couldn't call
any of the shots.
712
00:36:29,710 --> 00:36:30,910
But I listened.
713
00:36:31,210 --> 00:36:32,770
And they had some
really good ideas.
714
00:36:33,150 --> 00:36:34,530
Really smart, individually.
715
00:36:34,810 --> 00:36:37,330
And Shawn was very
smart when he sold around.
716
00:36:38,670 --> 00:36:43,310
Shawn had an attitude when he
drank, even more so, on top of pills.
717
00:36:43,650 --> 00:36:46,730
And Shawn would say, you know,
the wrong thing at the wrong time.
718
00:36:47,510 --> 00:36:50,370
And he was protected
in the WB environment.
719
00:36:50,570 --> 00:36:52,770
You know, but outside
of the environment.
720
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,290
Shawn Michaels, British
Bulldog, 123kid, walk into a bar.
721
00:36:58,490 --> 00:37:01,250
Me, Scott, and
Kev were in Europe.
722
00:37:01,450 --> 00:37:03,330
It was where we find
out that this all happened.
723
00:37:03,610 --> 00:37:05,810
A bunch of Marines
in a tough bar.
724
00:37:05,811 --> 00:37:08,700
Every eye in that place
turns to the three wrestlers that
725
00:37:08,780 --> 00:37:12,010
just walked in the door, of
which Shawn is the megastar.
726
00:37:12,810 --> 00:37:14,970
Every girl in that place
starts to look at Shawn.
727
00:37:15,430 --> 00:37:17,010
Shawn is very
enamored with that.
728
00:37:17,150 --> 00:37:20,530
And Shawn is at this point in his
life like, what the are you looking at?
729
00:37:20,870 --> 00:37:21,910
A problem jarhead?
730
00:37:22,550 --> 00:37:23,630
They go to walk out.
731
00:37:23,730 --> 00:37:25,623
Six Marines walk
out, beat the out of
732
00:37:25,635 --> 00:37:27,891
Shawn, and leave him
in the side of the car.
733
00:37:28,930 --> 00:37:32,170
And the last thing I can remember is,
you know, there being the coat check.
734
00:37:32,390 --> 00:37:35,150
The next thing is
waking up in the hospital.
735
00:37:36,370 --> 00:37:38,970
And everything else
is a complete blank.
736
00:37:39,830 --> 00:37:42,350
That was four days
out of a seven day week.
737
00:37:43,410 --> 00:37:44,430
Situations like that.
738
00:37:44,990 --> 00:37:48,510
Getting beat up by nine guys in Syracuse,
to me, there's not a whole lot of shame in.
739
00:37:48,790 --> 00:37:51,610
You know, that kind of stuff
just sort of happens to me.
740
00:37:51,790 --> 00:37:52,790
I've got two choices.
741
00:37:52,910 --> 00:37:55,570
Sit home and cry, or to
come out and be a pain.
742
00:37:55,810 --> 00:37:56,830
I got news for you folks.
743
00:37:57,430 --> 00:37:58,430
I'm all cried out.
744
00:37:58,570 --> 00:38:01,710
His moment of existence was the
20 minutes in the ring every night.
745
00:38:02,230 --> 00:38:03,450
He wouldn't be messed up.
746
00:38:03,510 --> 00:38:05,410
He'd go in there and
he'd kill it every night.
747
00:38:05,810 --> 00:38:10,070
And then the second
he was done, I'm in pain.
748
00:38:10,850 --> 00:38:13,790
And I took some stuff, so I
wouldn't be in pain this morning.
749
00:38:13,830 --> 00:38:14,570
But I'm not messed up.
750
00:38:14,770 --> 00:38:16,910
Why would you hang
out with this misery 24-7?
751
00:38:17,030 --> 00:38:17,410
No, it's not.
752
00:38:17,610 --> 00:38:18,850
It's, again, like your brother.
753
00:38:18,910 --> 00:38:20,610
It's like a family member.
754
00:38:20,810 --> 00:38:22,950
Shawn owes his life to Triple H.
755
00:38:22,970 --> 00:38:24,670
Paul Levesque
owes his life to him.
756
00:38:25,810 --> 00:38:29,346
Shawn Michaels knows
that the greatest match
757
00:38:29,358 --> 00:38:32,590
of his life must come
this Sunday night.
758
00:38:32,990 --> 00:38:37,670
By the time you get to the mid-90s,
Bret Hart has become a crowd favorite.
759
00:38:37,850 --> 00:38:41,630
Bret is a very soft-spoken,
quiet Canadian gentleman.
760
00:38:42,170 --> 00:38:45,690
Shawn is an outspoken,
loud, brash American.
761
00:38:46,070 --> 00:38:49,730
Only one person can be
the absolute alpha dog.
762
00:38:50,070 --> 00:38:52,910
The Iron Man match, the
boyhood dream realized.
763
00:38:53,250 --> 00:38:57,230
It added another layer to
the Shawn Michaels character.
764
00:38:57,710 --> 00:39:00,872
The Iron Man match is
the opportunity where I get
765
00:39:00,873 --> 00:39:02,950
to, you know, get my
first world championship.
766
00:39:03,230 --> 00:39:04,230
There's only one!
767
00:39:04,730 --> 00:39:05,730
Heartbreak kick!
768
00:39:06,610 --> 00:39:07,610
Unbelievable!
769
00:39:07,650 --> 00:39:08,650
What a ride!
770
00:39:09,850 --> 00:39:11,290
An hour-long match.
771
00:39:11,550 --> 00:39:14,430
It's going to be a long night
at the office in wrestling terms.
772
00:39:14,750 --> 00:39:17,930
For the World Wrestling
Federation Championship!
773
00:39:18,810 --> 00:39:20,370
We started to have our issues.
774
00:39:20,870 --> 00:39:23,570
You know, I was never
big on the click idea.
775
00:39:23,910 --> 00:39:25,990
It was a testy match
in a lot of ways.
776
00:39:30,430 --> 00:39:33,290
There's a famous part where
I jump off the second rope.
777
00:39:34,030 --> 00:39:34,270
That's it!
778
00:39:34,510 --> 00:39:38,210
He comes up and kicks me
in the face as hard as he could.
779
00:39:38,211 --> 00:39:39,486
I mean, he almost
knocked me out.
780
00:39:39,510 --> 00:39:40,510
Oh my goodness!
781
00:39:40,550 --> 00:39:42,670
We stiffed each other a
lot of times in that match.
782
00:39:42,930 --> 00:39:43,310
Wait a minute!
783
00:39:43,430 --> 00:39:44,570
He got it!
784
00:39:44,710 --> 00:39:45,710
He got it!
785
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:52,620
The boyhood dream!
786
00:39:55,830 --> 00:39:59,930
Boyhood dreams come true because
that was Shawn's boyhood dream.
787
00:40:00,030 --> 00:40:00,410
It was.
788
00:40:00,610 --> 00:40:02,550
And that's exactly
what happened.
789
00:40:03,030 --> 00:40:05,070
It was a very big
moment for my career.
790
00:40:05,410 --> 00:40:07,410
It's like, oh, it's your
first world championship.
791
00:40:07,550 --> 00:40:08,290
And you go like, oh.
792
00:40:08,530 --> 00:40:09,690
I picture it being different.
793
00:40:09,750 --> 00:40:11,450
I wasn't at a good
place and all that.
794
00:40:11,451 --> 00:40:12,190
All that kind of stuff.
795
00:40:12,450 --> 00:40:14,910
There's a lot of responsibility
that goes with that.
796
00:40:15,130 --> 00:40:18,690
Now every guy in that locker
room, their well-being, their life, their
797
00:40:18,691 --> 00:40:23,350
livelihood and all that,
depends on the job that you do.
798
00:40:23,490 --> 00:40:25,670
You know, it all falls
on your shoulders.
799
00:40:26,420 --> 00:40:27,780
The whole thing
was uncomfortable.
800
00:40:29,970 --> 00:40:34,890
As we got into 1996, Ted Turner,
who owned WCW, our competitors,
801
00:40:35,230 --> 00:40:41,150
was being very aggressive
in his quest for new talent.
802
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:47,870
Scott Hall and Kevin Nash, they were
going to leave and go to Ted Turner's WCW.
803
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:52,530
The last matches being in New
York in Madison Square Garden.
804
00:40:53,850 --> 00:41:00,610
On May 19th, 1996, one of the greatest
days of wrestling and my life as well.
805
00:41:00,830 --> 00:41:04,690
Me and my friend went to a house
show, which was not televised.
806
00:41:04,910 --> 00:41:08,450
We would sneak in a camera past
security and we would film the shows.
807
00:41:09,350 --> 00:41:11,430
Shawn was my hero back then.
808
00:41:11,431 --> 00:41:12,710
He was my idol growing up.
809
00:41:14,230 --> 00:41:17,330
The ending shows Shawn
Michaels giving Diesel a super kick.
810
00:41:17,510 --> 00:41:18,510
Match is over.
811
00:41:19,910 --> 00:41:22,310
And then, all of a sudden,
Razor Moon comes out.
812
00:41:22,490 --> 00:41:23,110
I'm like, oh, cool.
813
00:41:23,370 --> 00:41:26,330
They start hugging and
I'm screaming like a little girl.
814
00:41:26,890 --> 00:41:30,830
It was this and it turns out to
be Hunter Hearst Hounsley.
815
00:41:30,950 --> 00:41:33,670
They all start hugging and, you
know, obviously saying goodbye.
816
00:41:34,100 --> 00:41:35,100
It was insane.
817
00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:36,410
That night was magical.
818
00:41:38,690 --> 00:41:40,570
The business was well protected.
819
00:41:40,571 --> 00:41:41,990
Up until then.
820
00:41:42,110 --> 00:41:43,910
And our camera still kept going.
821
00:41:44,010 --> 00:41:45,870
The only camera that was there.
822
00:41:46,110 --> 00:41:48,329
If we were not involved
in taping the current
823
00:41:48,330 --> 00:41:51,270
call, it would not be
talked about as much today.
824
00:41:52,090 --> 00:41:53,890
Place is going insane.
825
00:41:54,390 --> 00:41:56,630
Everybody knows everything
on the inside of the business.
826
00:41:56,730 --> 00:41:57,370
There's no secrets.
827
00:41:57,650 --> 00:42:00,110
People in the business,
they didn't like it.
828
00:42:00,150 --> 00:42:01,946
They thought it was the
worst thing that happened.
829
00:42:01,970 --> 00:42:06,010
Here's this bad guy who we have no
idea is friends with all these other guys.
830
00:42:06,250 --> 00:42:10,550
It's breaking the fourth wall and just
telling people everything you do is wrong.
831
00:42:10,551 --> 00:42:12,810
The only thing we just
did is **** Shawn Michaels.
832
00:42:13,350 --> 00:42:15,508
He's now hugging and
kissing the guy that he
833
00:42:15,509 --> 00:42:17,650
just spent 20 minutes
beating the hell out of.
834
00:42:18,035 --> 00:42:19,790
We entertained you,
but now it's all over.
835
00:42:19,850 --> 00:42:20,890
We're really good buddies.
836
00:42:21,130 --> 00:42:22,410
Taboo in the wrestling business.
837
00:42:23,350 --> 00:42:25,810
The tape was
leaked out to a writer.
838
00:42:26,070 --> 00:42:28,030
The tape blows up on its own.
839
00:42:28,410 --> 00:42:30,010
I had no idea it was
going to happen.
840
00:42:30,210 --> 00:42:32,750
It was something that's
never been done before.
841
00:42:33,330 --> 00:42:37,270
I'm watching this and going,
what the hell is going on?
842
00:42:37,530 --> 00:42:39,290
The click was an
insult to our business.
843
00:42:40,550 --> 00:42:42,350
They had done that
in the 70s, early 80s.
844
00:42:42,735 --> 00:42:44,615
They had all four fingers
**** beat out of them.
845
00:42:45,035 --> 00:42:47,630
They wrestled each other and
they all kissed and said goodbye.
846
00:42:48,630 --> 00:42:49,950
Somebody's got
to go down for it.
847
00:42:50,170 --> 00:42:51,170
Kev's gone.
848
00:42:51,470 --> 00:42:52,130
Scott's gone.
849
00:42:52,410 --> 00:42:53,410
Shawn's the champ.
850
00:42:53,470 --> 00:42:54,570
Stuff rolls downhill.
851
00:42:55,750 --> 00:42:58,110
And, yeah, it all rolled on me.
852
00:42:58,710 --> 00:43:04,104
Triple H is the one that probably
paid the heaviest price as
853
00:43:04,105 --> 00:43:07,550
far as his career kind of
hitting a roadblock at that point.
854
00:43:07,895 --> 00:43:09,175
Shawn didn't really pay a price.
855
00:43:10,550 --> 00:43:12,230
I was inherently
selfish regardless.
856
00:43:12,290 --> 00:43:17,950
So I'm sure I didn't feel the, you
know, the compassion for him as I,
857
00:43:18,070 --> 00:43:20,030
maybe as I should have.
858
00:43:21,390 --> 00:43:23,510
There was a bit of a
shutdown on Shawn.
859
00:43:23,935 --> 00:43:26,430
Business is, it's
okay, but it's not great.
860
00:43:26,830 --> 00:43:29,970
You know, there's a lot of banter
about Shawn's not working as champion.
861
00:43:30,630 --> 00:43:31,690
He's not drawing.
862
00:43:32,140 --> 00:43:33,890
He's collapsing
under the pressure.
863
00:43:34,450 --> 00:43:35,830
I can see him falling apart.
864
00:43:36,190 --> 00:43:37,730
Kevin and Scott are gone.
865
00:43:38,330 --> 00:43:39,330
And I'm all he's got now.
866
00:43:39,610 --> 00:43:40,610
He's a mess.
867
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,670
I felt a lot of pressure
and I didn't handle it well.
868
00:43:43,910 --> 00:43:46,490
For me, it was, it was all
about running and escaping.
869
00:43:46,850 --> 00:43:50,830
And honestly, you know, it was running
and escaping from the dude I'd become.
870
00:43:51,430 --> 00:43:53,070
Better than having to face that.
871
00:43:53,190 --> 00:43:56,370
How about I just take a few
of these and knock myself out.
872
00:43:56,470 --> 00:43:58,230
I wouldn't pay attention
to it till tomorrow.
873
00:43:58,370 --> 00:44:00,270
He'd be pilled up, passed out.
874
00:44:00,630 --> 00:44:01,890
Put Shawn on a luggage cart.
875
00:44:02,850 --> 00:44:03,850
Roll him up to his room.
876
00:44:03,970 --> 00:44:04,830
Get him undressed.
877
00:44:04,910 --> 00:44:07,190
Dig dip out of his mouth
and put him on his side.
878
00:44:07,210 --> 00:44:08,070
Put a pillow behind him.
879
00:44:08,071 --> 00:44:10,026
So he wouldn't roll over and
choke to death in his sleep.
880
00:44:10,050 --> 00:44:13,430
And set an alarm and get up every
two, three hours to go check on him.
881
00:44:13,550 --> 00:44:15,170
And that was every night.
882
00:44:15,870 --> 00:44:17,570
You know, every night.
883
00:44:17,670 --> 00:44:18,670
Sad existence.
884
00:44:20,530 --> 00:44:27,470
What everybody has to understand
about Shawn Michaels is this.
885
00:44:27,690 --> 00:44:32,510
I want to come out here and look
like a blithering idiot on live TV.
886
00:44:32,850 --> 00:44:34,910
Believe me, I'm gonna do it.
887
00:44:35,010 --> 00:44:35,490
Why?
888
00:44:35,930 --> 00:44:37,150
Because I can.
889
00:44:37,151 --> 00:44:38,151
Yeah!
890
00:44:38,230 --> 00:44:40,470
He had a drug
problem for a while.
891
00:44:40,690 --> 00:44:41,790
A serious one.
892
00:44:41,990 --> 00:44:45,730
And he kind of fell in
the hole even deeper.
893
00:44:46,030 --> 00:44:50,361
But it wasn't until he
became champion that I
894
00:44:50,362 --> 00:44:54,851
felt that Shawn started
to question himself.
895
00:44:55,950 --> 00:44:59,250
I called his dad, the colonel,
and said, I'd like to visit.
896
00:44:59,370 --> 00:45:01,430
So I flew down to meet him.
897
00:45:01,530 --> 00:45:03,930
And I'm saying, you're
probably not aware of this.
898
00:45:04,510 --> 00:45:06,530
Shawn really has a drug problem.
899
00:45:07,150 --> 00:45:08,150
The colonel got angry.
900
00:45:08,850 --> 00:45:11,010
He just didn't want to hear it.
901
00:45:12,030 --> 00:45:14,170
I don't know that anybody
knew how to address it.
902
00:45:14,250 --> 00:45:15,550
Even things like rehab.
903
00:45:15,950 --> 00:45:17,510
My parents, you
know, God love them.
904
00:45:17,550 --> 00:45:19,970
I don't know that they knew
what it was that you did.
905
00:45:20,030 --> 00:45:21,150
Except just to be worried.
906
00:45:21,390 --> 00:45:23,650
Not long after that,
I tweaked my knee.
907
00:45:24,310 --> 00:45:25,870
Michaels up, out, and down.
908
00:45:26,130 --> 00:45:30,510
I went to this doctor in San Antonio
who doesn't know anything about wrestling.
909
00:45:30,630 --> 00:45:32,230
And obviously, he
sees I've tore my ACL.
910
00:45:32,370 --> 00:45:33,530
He's like, dude, you're dumb.
911
00:45:34,090 --> 00:45:36,110
You're not wrestling
with a torn ACL.
912
00:45:37,770 --> 00:45:43,110
I know that over the last several
months, I've lost a lot of things.
913
00:45:43,190 --> 00:45:44,550
And one of them
has been my smile.
914
00:45:44,910 --> 00:45:48,930
He went in the ring to announce he
was retiring because he had a bad knee.
915
00:45:49,370 --> 00:45:51,590
I didn't believe his
knee was the issue.
916
00:45:51,710 --> 00:45:54,573
I always thought the
issue was he didn't want to
917
00:45:54,574 --> 00:45:57,451
wrestle me at WrestleMania
13 and drop the belt to me.
918
00:45:57,770 --> 00:46:01,390
I doubted Shawn's integrity
as far as his injury went.
919
00:46:01,810 --> 00:46:03,330
You phony little faker.
920
00:46:03,470 --> 00:46:05,670
Why don't you take your
little pussyfoot injury?
921
00:46:05,990 --> 00:46:06,290
No.
922
00:46:06,370 --> 00:46:06,590
No.
923
00:46:06,650 --> 00:46:07,130
No.
924
00:46:07,131 --> 00:46:07,130
No.
925
00:46:07,131 --> 00:46:07,130
No.
926
00:46:07,131 --> 00:46:07,130
No.
927
00:46:07,131 --> 00:46:07,130
No.
928
00:46:07,131 --> 00:46:07,130
No.
929
00:46:07,131 --> 00:46:07,130
No.
930
00:46:07,131 --> 00:46:07,130
No.
931
00:46:07,131 --> 00:46:07,130
No.
932
00:46:07,131 --> 00:46:07,130
No.
933
00:46:07,131 --> 00:46:07,130
No.
934
00:46:07,131 --> 00:46:07,130
No.
935
00:46:07,131 --> 00:46:07,130
No.
936
00:46:07,131 --> 00:46:07,130
No.
937
00:46:07,150 --> 00:46:07,690
It's all right.
938
00:46:07,710 --> 00:46:07,790
No.
939
00:46:07,930 --> 00:46:08,190
No.
940
00:46:08,250 --> 00:46:08,710
I'm not going anywhere.
941
00:46:08,711 --> 00:46:10,290
Go back and find your smile.
942
00:46:10,590 --> 00:46:12,270
I got accused of faking it.
943
00:46:12,310 --> 00:46:13,890
Bret told everybody
I was faking it.
944
00:46:13,990 --> 00:46:16,850
My excuse is, drug
addicts lie all the time.
945
00:46:17,370 --> 00:46:21,090
Well, there's no doubt that you
found your smile again as you stated...
946
00:46:21,091 --> 00:46:23,251
A year off of the wrestling
business was a year no pay.
947
00:46:23,690 --> 00:46:26,256
That's just not... that
isn't feasible, and he said,
948
00:46:26,257 --> 00:46:30,170
well, look, you can put a
brace on it and wrap it up.
949
00:46:30,230 --> 00:46:32,150
They went and they got me
a brace and everything else.
950
00:46:32,170 --> 00:46:33,890
I was like, okay, I can do this.
951
00:46:34,010 --> 00:46:36,970
But it's time for
the Heartbreak Kid.
952
00:46:40,670 --> 00:46:43,890
This was a moment where
things needed to change.
953
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:45,840
Business was bad.
954
00:46:46,190 --> 00:46:47,590
WCW was starting to kill us.
955
00:46:47,750 --> 00:46:49,350
Put Shawn and I together on TV.
956
00:46:49,650 --> 00:46:52,350
We will multiply each other's
personalities on screen.
957
00:46:52,990 --> 00:46:53,990
Put us together.
958
00:46:54,430 --> 00:46:55,430
DX is born.
959
00:47:02,570 --> 00:47:06,410
Degeneration X consisted of
Shawn, Triple H, and Chyna.
960
00:47:06,411 --> 00:47:09,850
Two goofs in Shawn and
Hunter that were immature
961
00:47:09,851 --> 00:47:13,410
and did everything that
you weren't supposed to do.
962
00:47:13,650 --> 00:47:17,490
Shawn Michaels, you're a
disgrace to professional wrestling.
963
00:47:17,930 --> 00:47:21,230
I saw it as inmates had
taken over the asylum.
964
00:47:21,570 --> 00:47:24,590
I'm gonna start with that degenerate
right beside you in the green shirt.
965
00:47:25,570 --> 00:47:26,570
Degeneration X!
966
00:47:26,630 --> 00:47:27,630
Suck it!
967
00:47:29,070 --> 00:47:31,170
Yeah, I can't say I liked it.
968
00:47:31,230 --> 00:47:33,670
The smut and the crotch shots.
969
00:47:33,950 --> 00:47:35,290
It did get pretty raunchy.
970
00:47:35,770 --> 00:47:36,390
I liked it.
971
00:47:36,410 --> 00:47:37,706
I don't think it
was over the line.
972
00:47:37,730 --> 00:47:40,630
You know, we were getting
our tails kicked in the ratings.
973
00:47:41,410 --> 00:47:46,070
DX took it to the very, very
tipping point of going too far.
974
00:47:46,730 --> 00:47:48,170
But that's what we needed.
975
00:47:48,410 --> 00:47:51,310
It was kind of a whole
facelift for the company.
976
00:47:51,610 --> 00:47:52,270
They loved it.
977
00:47:52,430 --> 00:47:53,430
Raiders are going up.
978
00:47:53,650 --> 00:47:54,510
Your segments are hot.
979
00:47:54,670 --> 00:47:55,890
We are Degeneration X!
980
00:47:55,950 --> 00:47:59,290
You make your rules
and we will break them!
981
00:47:59,650 --> 00:48:01,170
They were the anti-authority.
982
00:48:01,330 --> 00:48:02,730
They could do
anything they wanted.
983
00:48:03,110 --> 00:48:04,590
We were just trying to
make each other laugh.
984
00:48:04,591 --> 00:48:06,252
Say something so
stupid that people would
985
00:48:06,253 --> 00:48:07,890
go, oh my God, I can't
believe he said that.
986
00:48:08,010 --> 00:48:12,050
Your old lady is not too
thrilled with your privates.
987
00:48:12,370 --> 00:48:15,010
You would think, like, okay, so
everything's great backstage with Sean.
988
00:48:15,030 --> 00:48:15,170
No.
989
00:48:15,530 --> 00:48:17,530
We're still approaching
this from a place of anger.
990
00:48:17,730 --> 00:48:20,170
We know we're pissing people
off and we're trying to be dicks.
991
00:48:21,170 --> 00:48:22,610
I got in trouble
for a lot of stuff.
992
00:48:22,730 --> 00:48:26,830
That we all thought was funny and
clearly we might have been the only ones.
993
00:48:27,305 --> 00:48:30,390
I'm going out in
a blaze of glory!
994
00:48:32,070 --> 00:48:38,890
At that point, Sean's DX personality and
his real personality have kind of morphed.
995
00:48:38,891 --> 00:48:41,250
So Sean really
never turned it off.
996
00:48:41,510 --> 00:48:43,250
This is what it's come down to.
997
00:48:43,410 --> 00:48:47,070
You're looking at somebody
that's got no respect for anything.
998
00:48:47,570 --> 00:48:51,230
There was a true animosity
between Brett and Sean.
999
00:48:51,410 --> 00:48:53,390
It just spiraled
completely out of control.
1000
00:48:53,770 --> 00:48:57,070
In the beginning, Sean
and Brett were friends.
1001
00:48:57,310 --> 00:49:03,510
And the antagonistic, the antagonistic
relationship that they had on camera,
1002
00:49:03,690 --> 00:49:05,370
that was all orchestrated.
1003
00:49:06,190 --> 00:49:07,490
But it became personal.
1004
00:49:07,590 --> 00:49:09,650
It became personal
between Brett and Sean.
1005
00:49:09,870 --> 00:49:11,370
Because one guy
would go too far.
1006
00:49:11,910 --> 00:49:15,270
I never knew enough to
avoid the confrontation.
1007
00:49:15,670 --> 00:49:18,090
If something bothered
Brett, I made sure that I did it.
1008
00:49:18,230 --> 00:49:20,810
He stabbed the World
Wrestling Federation in the back.
1009
00:49:20,990 --> 00:49:21,410
Why?
1010
00:49:21,630 --> 00:49:23,870
For his financial gain.
1011
00:49:24,210 --> 00:49:29,151
Instead of facing me like a man, you're
too busy posing for girly magazines.
1012
00:49:29,550 --> 00:49:31,714
You know, I know you don't
like me talking about you
1013
00:49:31,794 --> 00:49:33,910
posing for Playgirl, but
you did pose for Playgirl.
1014
00:49:35,290 --> 00:49:38,690
And we finally had a
fisticuff in the dressing room.
1015
00:49:38,950 --> 00:49:39,510
Oh, my God.
1016
00:49:39,550 --> 00:49:40,793
Brett and Sean just
get into a fight and pull
1017
00:49:40,794 --> 00:49:41,890
each other's hair out
of the locker room.
1018
00:49:41,950 --> 00:49:42,230
I'm like, what?
1019
00:49:42,790 --> 00:49:44,210
And run over
there and find Sean.
1020
00:49:44,211 --> 00:49:45,786
He had a big chunk of
hair missing on the side.
1021
00:49:45,810 --> 00:49:46,430
He's like, what are you doing?
1022
00:49:46,630 --> 00:49:48,310
I realize that I hate your guts.
1023
00:49:48,690 --> 00:49:50,570
We had a lot of
these resets and talks.
1024
00:49:50,870 --> 00:49:54,810
And we would always end up offending
each other quickly right after that.
1025
00:50:10,190 --> 00:50:11,390
Brett is the champion.
1026
00:50:11,391 --> 00:50:14,250
But Brett's on his way to WCW.
1027
00:50:15,230 --> 00:50:18,590
And he doesn't want
to drop the title to Sean.
1028
00:50:18,790 --> 00:50:21,668
But they couldn't let
Brett leave with the
1029
00:50:21,669 --> 00:50:24,710
title and then show up
on WCW TV the next night.
1030
00:50:24,890 --> 00:50:25,890
Who's gonna win?
1031
00:50:27,890 --> 00:50:28,890
I don't know.
1032
00:50:29,090 --> 00:50:31,630
Brett thought the match
was going to go one way.
1033
00:50:32,190 --> 00:50:35,190
Sean and Vince McMahon
come up with a different plan.
1034
00:50:35,610 --> 00:50:37,710
Brett doesn't know
about the plan.
1035
00:50:38,290 --> 00:50:41,370
We're being told by Vince,
like, this goes nowhere.
1036
00:50:41,390 --> 00:50:42,390
This goes to your grave.
1037
00:50:42,710 --> 00:50:45,730
This is high-level
espionage, man.
1038
00:50:46,330 --> 00:50:47,610
Nobody ever knows this.
1039
00:50:48,270 --> 00:50:49,910
It's kind of what's
best for business.
1040
00:50:50,370 --> 00:50:50,970
Look out!
1041
00:50:51,310 --> 00:50:53,410
Sean Blackwell is not
gonna waste any time.
1042
00:50:53,630 --> 00:50:54,990
The whole thing
was uncomfortable.
1043
00:50:55,970 --> 00:50:59,050
I was out there, you know,
whatever being Judas.
1044
00:51:04,570 --> 00:51:10,330
They had created a spot where Sean
was gonna put Brett's move, which is a
1045
00:51:10,331 --> 00:51:12,870
submission hold, the
sharpshooter, on Brett.
1046
00:51:13,210 --> 00:51:14,210
Look at this!
1047
00:51:14,890 --> 00:51:16,010
Oh, you're kidding me.
1048
00:51:16,510 --> 00:51:20,130
It's definitely one of the most
fabled stories in our industry.
1049
00:51:20,330 --> 00:51:21,570
The Montreal Screwdrop.
1050
00:51:22,110 --> 00:51:26,148
Just minutes into that
match, not one person on
1051
00:51:26,149 --> 00:51:29,831
planet Earth thinks the
match is going to end.
1052
00:51:30,010 --> 00:51:31,270
Are you kidding me?
1053
00:51:38,710 --> 00:51:42,248
So when all of a sudden
the bell rings, there's
1054
00:51:42,249 --> 00:51:45,250
complete confusion as to
why the match has ended.
1055
00:51:45,350 --> 00:51:46,650
What happened?
1056
00:51:46,810 --> 00:51:48,630
Brett Hart gave up
on the sharpshooter!
1057
00:51:48,810 --> 00:51:51,330
He said Brett submitted,
which didn't happen.
1058
00:51:51,930 --> 00:51:53,570
Wow, you talk about controversy.
1059
00:51:54,470 --> 00:51:58,630
It was basically a hit to make
sure that they got the title off of Brett.
1060
00:52:01,150 --> 00:52:04,010
I could see Vince yell
at him to ring the bell.
1061
00:52:06,290 --> 00:52:07,850
Like, they're trying
to screw me now.
1062
00:52:08,050 --> 00:52:09,290
Michael with a sharpshooter!
1063
00:52:09,450 --> 00:52:10,130
That's the cut!
1064
00:52:10,350 --> 00:52:11,970
The WWF champion!
1065
00:52:12,610 --> 00:52:15,290
And Brett Hart is
standing in disbelief!
1066
00:52:15,291 --> 00:52:16,291
Amazing!
1067
00:52:17,085 --> 00:52:18,406
I didn't know Vince
was coming out.
1068
00:52:18,430 --> 00:52:21,730
I think he just felt like maybe if he was
out there, he might get some heat off me.
1069
00:52:22,490 --> 00:52:24,710
You know, thus making
my denial plausible.
1070
00:52:25,170 --> 00:52:26,250
Shawn, you were in on that?
1071
00:52:28,710 --> 00:52:29,750
I get to know him, please.
1072
00:52:29,930 --> 00:52:30,930
God's my witness.
1073
00:52:31,910 --> 00:52:33,670
My hands are clean this
much, I swear to God.
1074
00:52:33,870 --> 00:52:35,670
Vince says, I want to
take the heat for this.
1075
00:52:36,070 --> 00:52:38,430
I don't want anyone to think
you had anything to do with it.
1076
00:52:38,830 --> 00:52:39,830
He's got it.
1077
00:52:40,050 --> 00:52:41,126
Okay, let's get out of here.
1078
00:52:41,150 --> 00:52:42,050
I took the heat.
1079
00:52:42,090 --> 00:52:45,250
I didn't want anyone to know
that Shawn was involved.
1080
00:52:46,030 --> 00:52:48,970
And then Brett comes over
and knocked the out of me.
1081
00:52:49,730 --> 00:52:53,310
One punch and
knocked him out cold.
1082
00:52:53,430 --> 00:52:55,790
He went straight down
on his back, out cold.
1083
00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:01,010
And after I knocked Vince
out, Shawn was crying.
1084
00:53:02,270 --> 00:53:04,310
Shawn sat on the
bench and was crying.
1085
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,350
Even though I didn't feel like I did
anything wrong that night, you're still
1086
00:53:08,351 --> 00:53:11,210
carrying a burden by not
coming clean with that.
1087
00:53:11,775 --> 00:53:12,815
You just say, yes, I knew.
1088
00:53:14,350 --> 00:53:17,790
Vince asked Shawn to do something
for everyone in this company.
1089
00:53:18,370 --> 00:53:22,495
Who else would have
had the balls, the guts, right
1090
00:53:22,496 --> 00:53:25,191
or wrong, how many other
people would have done it?
1091
00:53:27,270 --> 00:53:29,650
I remember going to
his house in San Antonio.
1092
00:53:30,010 --> 00:53:31,930
And I'm driving my
minivan down there.
1093
00:53:32,090 --> 00:53:33,690
I've got my wife and
three kids at home.
1094
00:53:33,770 --> 00:53:36,350
And I pull into his
gorgeous home.
1095
00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:39,050
I don't have 20
bucks in my pocket.
1096
00:53:39,190 --> 00:53:41,270
And I'll never forget, he
put his arms out like this.
1097
00:53:41,510 --> 00:53:42,650
And he just looked up at me.
1098
00:53:42,651 --> 00:53:45,030
And he goes, you
could have had all this.
1099
00:53:46,090 --> 00:53:50,290
But I realized somewhere along
the way that I saw him lose so much.
1100
00:53:50,390 --> 00:53:51,230
He got into drugs.
1101
00:53:51,410 --> 00:53:53,710
And there was some really
bad side effects to his fame.
1102
00:53:54,330 --> 00:53:57,868
I looked at Kenny a lot
of times and having a wife
1103
00:53:57,869 --> 00:54:01,090
and a family and just
been as happy as can be.
1104
00:54:01,250 --> 00:54:06,810
And I've always looked at and admired
and thought it was pretty enviable to have.
1105
00:54:07,150 --> 00:54:11,770
But with my line of work, it was
always wondering, can you have both?
1106
00:54:11,771 --> 00:54:13,530
Or is that not possible?
1107
00:54:13,890 --> 00:54:15,230
They don't mix.
1108
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:24,334
The following contest
is a casket match for
1109
00:54:24,335 --> 00:54:27,951
the World Wrestling
Federation Championship.
1110
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:34,010
This casket match is
the Undertaker's specialty.
1111
00:54:35,690 --> 00:54:40,210
The object of a casket match is to beat
your opponent down far enough that you can
1112
00:54:40,211 --> 00:54:43,050
throw them into the casket
or coffin and shut the lid.
1113
00:54:43,210 --> 00:54:45,710
And if you do that,
you win the match.
1114
00:54:46,630 --> 00:54:47,510
He's going to be in the ring.
1115
00:54:47,511 --> 00:54:52,670
Somewhere through the course of that
match, I threw him over this giant coffin.
1116
00:54:59,020 --> 00:55:01,340
I wanted to clear it
and go to the floor.
1117
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,140
And I just didn't
quite get far enough.
1118
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:05,620
And bam, I just
hit their corner.
1119
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:07,800
But I didn't really
think much about it.
1120
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,320
You know, you
still finish the match.
1121
00:55:09,720 --> 00:55:10,720
Look at this!
1122
00:55:15,660 --> 00:55:18,547
The next day, I just
remember getting up like, ah,
1123
00:55:18,548 --> 00:55:21,081
you know, waking up and
not being able to move.
1124
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,720
First time I recall
being in that much pain.
1125
00:55:25,180 --> 00:55:26,460
We do all the x-rays.
1126
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:28,780
Apparently, I blew the disc.
1127
00:55:28,860 --> 00:55:31,420
And that's the kind of
stuff that needs to be fused.
1128
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,800
The doctor says, you
can't be wrestling after that.
1129
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,500
He said, I'm never
going to wrestle again.
1130
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:40,520
Yadda, yadda, yadda.
1131
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,560
And I said, nobody
tells me what to do.
1132
00:55:42,620 --> 00:55:44,240
So we're going to WrestleMania.
1133
00:55:44,241 --> 00:55:45,241
With Steve.
1134
00:55:47,580 --> 00:55:50,200
So you give me
enough drugs, all right?
1135
00:55:50,220 --> 00:55:53,580
Let's do whatever we can
to get me to WrestleMania.
1136
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:58,240
Getting Shawn to
WrestleMania was a battle.
1137
00:55:58,420 --> 00:55:59,740
He had a bad back.
1138
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:02,540
He was heavily medicated.
1139
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:04,816
He is the World Wrestling
Federation champion, the
1140
00:56:04,817 --> 00:56:06,940
man who will defend his
title against Stone Cold.
1141
00:56:07,140 --> 00:56:10,140
But Mike Tyson is the enforcer
here, ladies and gentlemen.
1142
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:11,280
Shawn Michaels.
1143
00:56:11,780 --> 00:56:14,040
I choose to make
an ass out of a...
1144
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:16,000
toughest SOB.
1145
00:56:16,060 --> 00:56:17,500
I can do that any time I want.
1146
00:56:23,700 --> 00:56:27,000
I was going to have to talk myself
up and drop the belt to Steve.
1147
00:56:27,100 --> 00:56:29,860
And then I guess I'll
let my career be over.
1148
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:32,840
He was bitter.
1149
00:56:33,045 --> 00:56:35,700
It had nothing to
do with him losing.
1150
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:37,160
It had to do with
being replaced.
1151
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:38,900
He never had his moment.
1152
00:56:38,940 --> 00:56:40,040
He never had his run.
1153
00:56:40,340 --> 00:56:41,340
I'm still the greatest.
1154
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:42,760
Now it's his run.
1155
00:56:43,100 --> 00:56:44,100
What do I do?
1156
00:56:44,500 --> 00:56:45,600
I'm the backup guy.
1157
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,596
One of the most messed up things
I ever heard Shawn say in his life is,
1158
00:56:48,620 --> 00:56:51,580
I should have taken so many
pills I died after WrestleMania 10.
1159
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,440
I'd have been the
biggest star of all time.
1160
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:55,040
I'd have been Elvis.
1161
00:56:56,380 --> 00:56:57,180
It's hopelessness.
1162
00:56:57,260 --> 00:56:58,580
And certainly
that's where I was.
1163
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:03,060
I am not just, you
know, a drug addict.
1164
00:57:03,180 --> 00:57:03,960
I'm an angry one.
1165
00:57:04,140 --> 00:57:05,800
And I mean angrier than ever.
1166
00:57:06,460 --> 00:57:08,520
At that time in my
life, that's all I had.
1167
00:57:09,460 --> 00:57:12,680
I identified who I was with
what I was doing in that ring.
1168
00:57:12,681 --> 00:57:16,060
And without it, I wouldn't have
known what to do with my life.
1169
00:57:18,260 --> 00:57:21,480
On the day of WrestleMania
14, we barely talked.
1170
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,080
You know, he didn't feel
like doing business with me.
1171
00:57:24,350 --> 00:57:27,220
Triple H was the conduit
between most of it.
1172
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:28,920
He was pissed.
1173
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,440
He wasn't about to talk
to Steve about this match.
1174
00:57:31,620 --> 00:57:34,160
I helped him put it together
by going from room to room.
1175
00:57:34,300 --> 00:57:36,300
And it was just, it
was so difficult to do.
1176
00:57:36,740 --> 00:57:37,680
It was difficult.
1177
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:38,760
I remember that day.
1178
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,180
I'm thinking, I don't know
what Shawn's going to do.
1179
00:57:43,140 --> 00:57:47,060
If he's retiring, you know, this
could be his final screw you.
1180
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:52,920
Nobody has ever, ever outperformed
Shawn Michaels in a big match situation.
1181
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:54,940
I'm not in great shape.
1182
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:59,080
My back was pretty bad
being in that much pain.
1183
00:57:59,260 --> 00:58:01,420
Got the cortisone
shots and stuff like that.
1184
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:01,980
Yeah!
1185
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:03,360
Oh, God!
1186
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:04,520
What velocity!
1187
00:58:04,521 --> 00:58:06,040
I feel like I'm
putting him over.
1188
00:58:06,140 --> 00:58:06,740
That's good enough.
1189
00:58:07,100 --> 00:58:07,480
Awesome!
1190
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:08,180
He got it!
1191
00:58:08,460 --> 00:58:09,460
Let's dance!
1192
00:58:15,670 --> 00:58:16,870
Shawn's always a troublemaker.
1193
00:58:16,950 --> 00:58:17,990
He always wants
to get in your face.
1194
00:58:17,991 --> 00:58:18,590
Talk.
1195
00:58:18,591 --> 00:58:21,030
Even when he's on
your team, he just talks.
1196
00:58:21,031 --> 00:58:21,990
He's an irritant.
1197
00:58:22,050 --> 00:58:23,050
That's what he is.
1198
00:58:24,470 --> 00:58:26,570
Shawn had sour grapes.
1199
00:58:32,430 --> 00:58:34,896
That was kind of a close
blow, because Shawn
1200
00:58:34,908 --> 00:58:37,111
was pretty much
out for a little while.
1201
00:58:39,490 --> 00:58:43,170
Tyson takes the Austin 316 shirt
and lays it across Shawn's chest.
1202
00:58:43,910 --> 00:58:47,330
This was adding insult to injury,
and this was rubbing salt in a wound.
1203
00:58:47,530 --> 00:58:48,730
I would have been pissed, too.
1204
00:58:49,650 --> 00:58:51,290
Not exactly the screw job.
1205
00:58:51,291 --> 00:58:54,250
But it was them
getting the last laugh, as
1206
00:58:54,251 --> 00:58:57,030
far as, you know,
you no good little prick.
1207
00:58:57,130 --> 00:58:58,321
You put us through
hell this week, but we're
1208
00:58:58,322 --> 00:59:00,511
at least going to get
you going out the door.
1209
00:59:00,630 --> 00:59:04,090
The new World Wrestling Federation
champion, Stone Cold Steve Austin.
1210
00:59:06,470 --> 00:59:11,050
He was going to that press conference
to just let everybody know, I'm pissed off.
1211
00:59:11,510 --> 00:59:13,350
He walked in the door
and he yelled some stuff.
1212
00:59:15,090 --> 00:59:16,210
Oh, yeah, it's up.
1213
00:59:16,470 --> 00:59:18,170
It's selfish and it's stupid.
1214
00:59:18,450 --> 00:59:21,190
But, you know, that's
where he was at that time.
1215
00:59:22,070 --> 00:59:25,837
Shawn is suffering from
ruptured disc as we speak
1216
00:59:25,838 --> 00:59:29,151
and will not participate
at this press conference.
1217
00:59:29,250 --> 00:59:33,810
Nonetheless, he participated in
the arena in an extraordinary way.
1218
00:59:33,930 --> 00:59:35,777
And there is no
athlete in the world that
1219
00:59:35,778 --> 00:59:39,151
can say they can do what
Shawn Michaels does.
1220
00:59:44,660 --> 00:59:50,520
I got on the plane the next morning
and went home and began to, I don't know,
1221
00:59:51,300 --> 00:59:52,460
let it all sort of sink in.
1222
00:59:53,410 --> 00:59:59,320
It takes some time before it goes
from being time off to the reality of how
1223
00:59:59,321 --> 01:00:03,720
exactly is the rest of your life
going to go when you're done at 33.
1224
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,220
Okay, see if I can
get one done here.
1225
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:12,640
All they knew at the time was
stuff like that you don't recover from.
1226
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:14,720
People don't get back in
the ring and wrestle again.
1227
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,940
The thing is, I can't keep
coming out here week after
1228
01:00:18,941 --> 01:00:21,560
week after week going
back and forth with all this.
1229
01:00:21,561 --> 01:00:23,040
I've got to get
busy with my rehab.
1230
01:00:24,450 --> 01:00:25,450
My physical therapy.
1231
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:27,340
My physical therapy for my back.
1232
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:32,000
Now I've got a legitimate
reason to have pain pills.
1233
01:00:32,810 --> 01:00:35,400
And I've got a prescription
and everything else.
1234
01:00:36,570 --> 01:00:38,120
I just want to be
a pro wrestler.
1235
01:00:38,470 --> 01:00:40,680
That's what I was
trying to go back to.
1236
01:00:41,340 --> 01:00:44,140
So I began to start the Shawn
Michaels Wrestling Academy.
1237
01:00:44,825 --> 01:00:45,560
We had a couple rings.
1238
01:00:45,780 --> 01:00:47,020
I had a little workout room.
1239
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,206
There were a couple
guys that came through
1240
01:00:49,207 --> 01:00:51,961
my school that went on
to have WWE success.
1241
01:00:52,140 --> 01:00:53,760
It was a great experience.
1242
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:54,320
It really was.
1243
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,400
I did it for about two
and a half, three years.
1244
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,880
So I'm at home
and I'm watching TV.
1245
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:04,380
Then all of a sudden it's the
introduction of this new Nitro girl.
1246
01:01:04,740 --> 01:01:07,420
The Tampa Bay
girl herself, Whisper.
1247
01:01:08,380 --> 01:01:14,260
And she's out there with
this chair just doing this dance.
1248
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:18,000
And it's captivating.
1249
01:01:18,020 --> 01:01:20,420
And she's absolutely the most
beautiful thing I've ever seen.
1250
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:24,100
We were at a rehearsal.
1251
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:28,180
And one of the Nitro girls, Spice, had
mentioned to me that a man named Shawn
1252
01:01:28,181 --> 01:01:30,960
Michaels, a former
wrestler, wanted to meet me.
1253
01:01:31,100 --> 01:01:32,816
And that was the first
time I'd ever heard of him.
1254
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:33,580
I called her up.
1255
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:37,200
We probably talked for three hours
on the phone each night for two weeks.
1256
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,480
Two weeks of
talking and emailing.
1257
01:01:39,540 --> 01:01:42,900
And then I flew out to
San Antonio to see him.
1258
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:44,940
And we dated for
about two weeks.
1259
01:01:45,575 --> 01:01:46,796
After that, he told
me he loved me.
1260
01:01:46,820 --> 01:01:47,640
I told him I loved him.
1261
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,240
Two weeks after
that, we got married.
1262
01:01:50,180 --> 01:01:51,540
It was the Graceland wedding.
1263
01:01:51,541 --> 01:01:51,960
The wedding chapel.
1264
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:52,480
Yeah.
1265
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:53,640
Yeah.
1266
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,340
You know, and Elvis impersonated
her walking down the aisle.
1267
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:57,640
Regrets.
1268
01:01:57,641 --> 01:01:59,200
It was fantastic.
1269
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,860
It's just the
greatest thing ever.
1270
01:02:03,660 --> 01:02:07,540
There was one evening
where my pills have kicked in.
1271
01:02:08,085 --> 01:02:09,420
And I'm out of it.
1272
01:02:10,500 --> 01:02:12,260
Shawn was in tremendous pain.
1273
01:02:12,705 --> 01:02:17,940
When he would take the muscle relaxers,
he would usually pass out over his food.
1274
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,880
The very first time that Shawn ever
did that was when we were first married.
1275
01:02:23,020 --> 01:02:24,360
So it was a bit
of a shock to me.
1276
01:02:24,550 --> 01:02:27,470
So I got him in the shower because
he had spilled food all over his chest.
1277
01:02:27,985 --> 01:02:31,620
And I would say it probably
happened a couple times a week.
1278
01:02:32,605 --> 01:02:37,460
The worst time, again, was when
she was eight months pregnant.
1279
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:41,220
She's doing everything she can at eight
months pregnant with her belly trying to
1280
01:02:41,820 --> 01:02:42,820
hold me up.
1281
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:44,640
I took pity on him.
1282
01:02:44,740 --> 01:02:47,380
And I just prayed for
him is all I could do.
1283
01:02:47,381 --> 01:02:50,316
But it didn't make me think, you know,
what in the world have I gotten into?
1284
01:02:50,340 --> 01:02:53,620
If I was fearful, I was
fearful for our unborn child.
1285
01:02:53,940 --> 01:02:57,100
And I hoped that it would end
whenever the baby was born.
1286
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:58,240
And it didn't.
1287
01:03:04,420 --> 01:03:06,980
I don't remember
why Shawn was there.
1288
01:03:07,140 --> 01:03:09,356
There must have been somebody
doing something in the show.
1289
01:03:09,380 --> 01:03:12,720
We all go, me, Taker, Rock.
1290
01:03:13,300 --> 01:03:14,300
Vince is in the ring.
1291
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:15,620
I own WCW.
1292
01:03:16,740 --> 01:03:18,700
Shawn is messed up.
1293
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:20,160
Pilled up.
1294
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:23,180
So this is... a
celebratory moment.
1295
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:25,480
He's belligerent.
1296
01:03:25,620 --> 01:03:26,620
Loud.
1297
01:03:26,740 --> 01:03:27,740
Falling down.
1298
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:28,520
Staggering.
1299
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:30,040
Vince calls him in.
1300
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:32,060
Tells him, go home.
1301
01:03:32,300 --> 01:03:33,300
Done with you.
1302
01:03:33,580 --> 01:03:35,200
Shawn goes ballistic.
1303
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:37,460
Walks by me in the hallway.
1304
01:03:37,660 --> 01:03:38,920
Just goes off.
1305
01:03:39,260 --> 01:03:40,680
You know, I went and...
1306
01:03:42,500 --> 01:03:43,500
browbeat Hunter.
1307
01:03:43,660 --> 01:03:44,180
Unfairly.
1308
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:44,680
Obviously.
1309
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:46,000
And I just...
1310
01:03:46,500 --> 01:03:47,180
went off back.
1311
01:03:47,420 --> 01:03:48,840
You know, just in his face.
1312
01:03:49,020 --> 01:03:50,540
Screaming match back and forth.
1313
01:03:50,541 --> 01:03:51,740
And he storms out.
1314
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:53,480
And that's another
one that makes me cry.
1315
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,480
I went and said some mean
stuff to him and walked out.
1316
01:03:57,020 --> 01:03:58,020
And, uh...
1317
01:03:58,260 --> 01:03:59,260
you know...
1318
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:02,040
that sucks as well.
1319
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:05,460
And I don't talk to him...
1320
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:07,160
for...
1321
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:08,280
a long time.
1322
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:09,560
We didn't...
1323
01:04:10,300 --> 01:04:11,300
speak...
1324
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:12,140
I don't know.
1325
01:04:12,260 --> 01:04:14,580
I mean, I would think at
least a year, two years.
1326
01:04:14,780 --> 01:04:16,900
That was... what
do they call it?
1327
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:17,920
The rock bottom.
1328
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:19,280
So...
1329
01:04:31,410 --> 01:04:32,380
that's a completely
different story.
1330
01:04:32,381 --> 01:04:32,840
But, I mean, I am not afraid.
1331
01:04:32,841 --> 01:04:33,160
a very, very unique story.
1332
01:04:33,161 --> 01:04:33,440
I don't want to say that...
1333
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:33,700
But we were there.
1334
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:33,780
But we had that.
1335
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,600
And... I always think that...
1336
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:42,700
that we were trying to
make him feel... comfortable.
1337
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:46,520
And he was able...
1338
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:47,820
to...
1339
01:04:48,020 --> 01:04:51,580
be comfortable.
1340
01:04:51,581 --> 01:04:55,380
I went into the bathroom and closed the
door, looking at yourself in the mirror,
1341
01:04:55,700 --> 01:05:01,840
and, you know, I sat there and cried like
a baby and wept, you know, realizing that
1342
01:05:01,841 --> 01:05:04,900
you are failing a, you know,
a two-year-old little boy.
1343
01:05:05,380 --> 01:05:10,920
And all of those things sort of came
crashing down that night, and I just,
1344
01:05:11,020 --> 01:05:15,180
it's the first time I ever fail
like such a frickin' failure.
1345
01:05:15,500 --> 01:05:17,400
I think that that was
the last straw for him.
1346
01:05:17,401 --> 01:05:22,340
And when he woke up the next morning,
he told me that he was never taking pills
1347
01:05:22,341 --> 01:05:24,301
or drinking again, and
from that point, he didn't.
1348
01:05:24,540 --> 01:05:27,800
It was an instantaneous letting
go of the drugs and alcohol.
1349
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,240
I just called him up
out of the clear blue.
1350
01:05:30,420 --> 01:05:34,585
I just asked him when
was the last time he talked
1351
01:05:34,586 --> 01:05:37,560
to Paul, and he just
avoided that situation.
1352
01:05:37,980 --> 01:05:41,480
I just said, man, you're
wrong, you gotta call him.
1353
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:47,380
I called Hunter and let him know, you
know, how sorry I was and how I felt.
1354
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:48,340
You know, how out of line I was.
1355
01:05:48,380 --> 01:05:50,100
But I said, I hope
you can forgive me.
1356
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:51,860
I needed that from Hunter.
1357
01:05:52,380 --> 01:05:53,440
For me, it was easy.
1358
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:54,520
Like, I didn't...
1359
01:05:55,220 --> 01:05:56,900
As long as he wasn't
drugs talking to me.
1360
01:05:57,220 --> 01:05:58,220
That's good.
1361
01:06:00,580 --> 01:06:05,200
Of course I do regret the pain
that it caused people in my life.
1362
01:06:05,380 --> 01:06:11,900
There is a part of that that I don't think
that Michael Shaw and Hickenbottom can get
1363
01:06:11,901 --> 01:06:17,240
to where he got creatively
without a little bit of that reckless...
1364
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:19,120
risky mindset.
1365
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:21,460
I wouldn't have
had the guts to do it.
1366
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,350
It was our first Christmas
together, and I gave Shawn a
1367
01:06:26,351 --> 01:06:28,740
Bible and some other books,
and he began reading them.
1368
01:06:29,460 --> 01:06:32,167
I had never had
anything that I could grasp
1369
01:06:32,168 --> 01:06:34,580
that was bigger than
the wrestling business.
1370
01:06:35,020 --> 01:06:38,440
That's just not enough to
base, I don't know, a life on.
1371
01:06:39,540 --> 01:06:42,640
I worked at Cornerstone
Church in San Antonio, Texas.
1372
01:06:43,070 --> 01:06:47,420
All of a sudden, I heard a deep voice
that, I want to come to a Bible study.
1373
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:51,418
And then I got up from
my desk and stuck my head
1374
01:06:51,498 --> 01:06:53,960
out the door and I said,
well, you can come to mine.
1375
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:57,056
When he left, everybody came out to
him and said, do you know who that was?
1376
01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:58,336
I said, no, I don't
know who that was.
1377
01:06:58,360 --> 01:06:58,880
Who was it?
1378
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:00,360
And he said, Shawn Michaels.
1379
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:01,880
I said, well, who's
Shawn Michaels?
1380
01:07:04,940 --> 01:07:08,540
He said, well, first, Keith, I
want you to pray for my back.
1381
01:07:08,700 --> 01:07:11,340
He said, I've been out of
wrestling and I want to go back.
1382
01:07:11,580 --> 01:07:14,480
I said, well, it's a simple
prayer that we can pray together.
1383
01:07:14,481 --> 01:07:19,200
And while he was saying that
prayer, tears just come out of his eyes.
1384
01:07:20,180 --> 01:07:22,320
I got nobody to blame but me.
1385
01:07:22,915 --> 01:07:25,380
And I don't have anything in
common with the other dude.
1386
01:07:25,460 --> 01:07:26,816
And I don't know
how it got that way.
1387
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:27,960
It wasn't from family.
1388
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:28,840
It wasn't from upbringing.
1389
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:36,500
He was so desperate to get back in a close
relationship with Rebecca and his son.
1390
01:07:37,060 --> 01:07:38,400
I was now a dad.
1391
01:07:38,540 --> 01:07:39,220
I was a husband.
1392
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:43,920
And I was really devoted
and thrilled about that.
1393
01:07:43,921 --> 01:07:45,340
You're like a child.
1394
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:47,800
You just want to tell
everybody, I've been saved.
1395
01:07:52,860 --> 01:07:56,450
Once Shawn got his life together
and found Christ, it was night and day.
1396
01:07:56,590 --> 01:07:59,890
When he looks back at his life,
that's the biggest thing that he ever did.
1397
01:08:00,190 --> 01:08:02,930
You were dealing with a grown
up when Shawn came back.
1398
01:08:03,220 --> 01:08:05,330
Someone who was
there to do business.
1399
01:08:05,670 --> 01:08:08,310
Shawn was a lot calmer
and much easier to deal with.
1400
01:08:09,090 --> 01:08:13,410
Shawn Michaels of old is very different
from Shawn Hickenbottom, the man I married.
1401
01:08:13,650 --> 01:08:15,750
The sexy boy and
all that kind of stuff.
1402
01:08:15,910 --> 01:08:17,290
And his cocky attitude
and that kind of stuff.
1403
01:08:17,310 --> 01:08:18,950
And that cocky little
smile that he does.
1404
01:08:19,270 --> 01:08:22,470
That's so far from
who he really is.
1405
01:08:22,790 --> 01:08:25,130
I remember somebody
asking me, they said,
1406
01:08:25,131 --> 01:08:27,170
you know, hey, I heard
Shawn found religion.
1407
01:08:27,590 --> 01:08:28,070
Yeah.
1408
01:08:28,210 --> 01:08:29,090
They laughed.
1409
01:08:29,230 --> 01:08:32,490
And I said, well, I don't know
anybody that died OD'ing on religion.
1410
01:08:33,530 --> 01:08:35,230
He had called Triple H.
1411
01:08:35,510 --> 01:08:40,203
He thanked Hunter for the
time on the road because before
1412
01:08:40,283 --> 01:08:43,190
his marriage to me, the one
that took care of him was Hunter.
1413
01:08:44,830 --> 01:08:47,628
That night after Shawn
had gone to bed, he woke up
1414
01:08:47,629 --> 01:08:50,391
in the morning and the
pain was gone in his back.
1415
01:08:50,910 --> 01:08:52,030
It was definitely a miracle.
1416
01:08:53,090 --> 01:08:55,450
So he was physically
ready to go back in the ring.
1417
01:08:55,590 --> 01:08:57,470
And I knew that the Lord
would take care of him.
1418
01:08:59,890 --> 01:09:01,870
We were kind of having
a conversation at the time.
1419
01:09:01,930 --> 01:09:05,030
And then he said, he was like, I want
my son to see me do this one time.
1420
01:09:05,130 --> 01:09:06,426
He said, I don't
know that I can do it.
1421
01:09:06,450 --> 01:09:08,050
I don't know
physically if I can or not.
1422
01:09:08,130 --> 01:09:10,910
And he said, if I'm going
to, I only trust one person.
1423
01:09:11,290 --> 01:09:11,710
It's you.
1424
01:09:11,711 --> 01:09:15,490
If you consider it, I
would love to do it.
1425
01:09:15,550 --> 01:09:16,550
What do you think?
1426
01:09:19,610 --> 01:09:24,218
Almost away from the non-sanctioned
fight between two men who
1427
01:09:24,219 --> 01:09:28,090
are at one time best friends,
Shawn Michaels and Triple H.
1428
01:09:28,230 --> 01:09:34,450
Shawn Michaels last wrestled
1,609 days ago, if you can believe that.
1429
01:09:35,590 --> 01:09:37,110
His whole family was there.
1430
01:09:37,610 --> 01:09:39,310
They were all scared to death.
1431
01:09:39,790 --> 01:09:41,270
Found a ring, did
a couple of things.
1432
01:09:42,970 --> 01:09:46,030
Never missed a beat, not
a moment, not an anything.
1433
01:09:46,790 --> 01:09:49,970
I was on my chair like a redneck,
just screaming and yelling for him.
1434
01:09:50,010 --> 01:09:51,210
Of course, I cried at the end.
1435
01:09:51,290 --> 01:09:55,610
Like, how is this possible
that he is this good still?
1436
01:09:56,210 --> 01:10:00,450
After all that time and injury
and everything else, unbelievable.
1437
01:10:02,190 --> 01:10:05,570
It was just as easy
as the day is long.
1438
01:10:05,750 --> 01:10:06,310
It was poetic.
1439
01:10:06,450 --> 01:10:07,050
It was phenomenal.
1440
01:10:07,450 --> 01:10:11,130
It was everything that is
right and good about the world.
1441
01:10:11,131 --> 01:10:16,051
This line of work and, you know, my family
there, out there with my best friend.
1442
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:26,112
After the SummerSlam, that's
when there was a sense of peace
1443
01:10:26,113 --> 01:10:29,040
and joy in the midst of
doing your job and your family.
1444
01:10:29,260 --> 01:10:32,820
Combining these two worlds
that I've never had together.
1445
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:34,820
And I'm not even
the same person.
1446
01:10:34,900 --> 01:10:37,620
And now it all feels so right.
1447
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:38,960
It's as good as it gets.
1448
01:10:39,060 --> 01:10:41,120
You know, it's heaven
on earth here in this world.
1449
01:10:41,780 --> 01:10:45,180
Shawn Michaels changed
completely as a human being.
1450
01:10:45,181 --> 01:10:52,460
And somehow, as a character, he managed to
keep a lot of the aura that he always had.
1451
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:56,920
I could argue that Shawn was
at his best after he came back.
1452
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:07,440
To me, he's the greatest
in-ring performer of all time.
1453
01:11:11,480 --> 01:11:15,660
It gets more difficult to find a
new mountain, a new challenge.
1454
01:11:15,820 --> 01:11:19,080
Sometimes that new mountain or
that new challenge, it just isn't there.
1455
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:21,402
And so later on in my
career, I learned that when I
1456
01:11:21,442 --> 01:11:23,820
disconnect from it,
something will usually happen.
1457
01:11:23,940 --> 01:11:28,420
You know, the one with flair is
obviously the one I always speak of.
1458
01:11:28,700 --> 01:11:30,300
Remember the
story of Old Yeller?
1459
01:11:31,300 --> 01:11:35,700
The Showstopper's gonna take
you, Old Yeller, behind the woodshed.
1460
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:38,860
And put you out of your misery.
1461
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:41,480
I lost myself in that drama.
1462
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:46,380
We had a call from my buddy Kenny,
who's now been made aware of the match.
1463
01:11:46,500 --> 01:11:47,300
It's like, oh my goodness.
1464
01:11:47,380 --> 01:11:48,500
He said, can you believe it?
1465
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:53,700
It was overwhelming to think that the guy
that we idolized, that we would watch on a
1466
01:11:53,701 --> 01:11:55,602
little TV box in
San Antonio, Texas,
1467
01:11:55,614 --> 01:11:57,940
somehow their lives
were gonna interconnect.
1468
01:11:58,320 --> 01:11:59,140
Rick was his guy.
1469
01:11:59,260 --> 01:12:01,560
He absolutely loved Ric Flair.
1470
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:03,820
Kenny took me back to that time.
1471
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:12,900
This was why I went from New York
to Orlando, was to see this moment.
1472
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:19,980
Now in this match, should
Ric Flair lose, he must retire.
1473
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:24,720
I remember feeling like the way Ric Flair
started this match, that he had a chance.
1474
01:12:28,660 --> 01:12:30,060
There's no other way to put it.
1475
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:31,240
He carried me.
1476
01:12:31,860 --> 01:12:36,600
He gave everything that anybody
could ever give to a match that night.
1477
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:38,040
Wait a minute, wait a minute!
1478
01:12:43,340 --> 01:12:47,760
It becomes clear that Ric
Flair just doesn't have enough.
1479
01:12:48,660 --> 01:12:49,880
I love this part.
1480
01:12:49,980 --> 01:12:51,300
I could tear up
talking about it.
1481
01:12:51,380 --> 01:12:53,740
Lair, like an old
dog, still fighting.
1482
01:12:53,741 --> 01:12:55,640
He thinks he still has it.
1483
01:12:56,070 --> 01:13:00,560
And that's when Shawn sort of has to
have that moment where he says, I'm sorry.
1484
01:13:00,940 --> 01:13:01,780
I love you.
1485
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:03,040
Flair wants to fight.
1486
01:13:03,140 --> 01:13:04,140
Oh!
1487
01:13:04,340 --> 01:13:05,800
And just turns the lights out.
1488
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:13,281
It was as beautiful and perfect an ending
to a wrestling match as you will ever have.
1489
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:14,780
You know, I didn't want to go.
1490
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:17,000
And you said, I love you.
1491
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:19,400
It's a great
moment in wrestling.
1492
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:20,840
I don't care what anybody says.
1493
01:13:20,940 --> 01:13:22,640
You can't replace
something like that.
1494
01:13:24,020 --> 01:13:29,380
I'm ashamed that it was my love letter
to the wrestling business and to Ric Flair.
1495
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,520
It is show day and
we're off to the shizzle.
1496
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:41,080
I've been doing
this for 35 years.
1497
01:13:41,380 --> 01:13:44,720
Days like today, it's a different
kind of anxiety that I have now.
1498
01:13:45,020 --> 01:13:48,440
I have anxiety for the performers,
for the entire show as a whole.
1499
01:13:48,900 --> 01:13:50,260
For me, it's just all fantastic.
1500
01:13:51,140 --> 01:13:54,500
Especially when it goes well for them
and they come back and they're jacked.
1501
01:13:54,501 --> 01:13:57,620
It's ten times better than
when I had that opportunity.
1502
01:13:58,100 --> 01:13:59,560
This is where I'm
supposed to be.
1503
01:13:59,740 --> 01:14:01,000
I absolutely love it.
1504
01:14:06,100 --> 01:14:08,460
What moment would you
say you're most proud of?
1505
01:14:08,990 --> 01:14:11,756
And then by the same token, what
moment would you say you're least proud of?
1506
01:14:11,780 --> 01:14:14,160
Most proud, I guess, would
be winning the world title.
1507
01:14:14,300 --> 01:14:17,800
And least proud would
probably be the Montreal incident.
1508
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:22,940
One is everything you aspire to do
and the other is the complete opposite.
1509
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,080
Something you really
don't want to be a part of.
1510
01:14:25,580 --> 01:14:27,360
It's the long-term guilt.
1511
01:14:27,460 --> 01:14:28,340
It's the shame.
1512
01:14:28,460 --> 01:14:31,320
It's the loathing that you
know this person has for you.
1513
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:33,420
There was so much
bad blood between us.
1514
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:36,960
And I was always like,
if I see him, I'll kill him.
1515
01:14:38,260 --> 01:14:40,836
I've always believed that I
had so much anger that I think
1516
01:14:40,837 --> 01:14:43,281
it led to my stroke and a lot
of things that I went through.
1517
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:45,287
And then I remember
thinking about Sean and
1518
01:14:45,288 --> 01:14:47,020
how we were good
friends once upon a time.
1519
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:48,960
And, you know, that
it wasn't just Sean.
1520
01:14:49,140 --> 01:14:50,240
I was guilty too.
1521
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:52,840
And I remember thinking it
would be good to put it to bed.
1522
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:55,040
And I've certainly
talked about my regrets.
1523
01:14:55,060 --> 01:14:57,180
And the hope for reconciliation.
1524
01:14:57,580 --> 01:14:59,640
It took him some
time to get there.
1525
01:14:59,860 --> 01:15:03,840
Vincent suggested, there's got to be a way
we can do this live in front of the world.
1526
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:07,460
I've got 12 years of things
that I want to get off my chest.
1527
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,520
I want to call back there and ask
Shawn Michaels to come out here.
1528
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:13,020
I call for a truce.
1529
01:15:13,180 --> 01:15:15,020
And I call for you
to shake my hand.
1530
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:17,462
The fact that we did that
in the ring and we shook
1531
01:15:17,463 --> 01:15:20,320
hands and all that was
very honest and very sincere.
1532
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:24,220
You know that everybody's watching
when you're trying to have this very real
1533
01:15:24,221 --> 01:15:26,640
moment until one another's
part does imitate life.
1534
01:15:27,125 --> 01:15:28,940
He's matured and
he's a different guy.
1535
01:15:30,460 --> 01:15:33,400
And I thought he finally, you know,
he's got his priorities all in order.
1536
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:41,460
Welcome to the 25th
anniversary of WrestleMania!
1537
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:47,560
70,000 WWE fans!
1538
01:15:47,980 --> 01:15:53,060
By the time Shawn Michaels and Undertaker
meet at WrestleMania 25, they're veterans.
1539
01:15:53,100 --> 01:15:54,220
They've been around forever.
1540
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:59,160
And somehow, they're actually
both in their absolute prime.
1541
01:16:03,990 --> 01:16:07,781
One of my favorite entrances,
Shawn as the Undertaker
1542
01:16:07,782 --> 01:16:10,671
but in all white,
ascending from the clouds.
1543
01:16:11,450 --> 01:16:15,750
Such a stark contrast
to what I'm about to do.
1544
01:16:17,450 --> 01:16:19,630
It's the battle between
heaven and hell.
1545
01:16:20,370 --> 01:16:23,630
Prior to 2002, we did not
have a great relationship.
1546
01:16:24,010 --> 01:16:26,470
We did not like each
other outside the ring.
1547
01:16:26,471 --> 01:16:28,310
This guy, I genuinely like now.
1548
01:16:29,010 --> 01:16:32,630
And I've been years and years and
years since we had worked together.
1549
01:16:33,770 --> 01:16:36,950
Since the time that he had
injured himself in the casket match.
1550
01:16:37,370 --> 01:16:39,815
Unknown to us at the time,
we're about to create one of
1551
01:16:39,816 --> 01:16:43,050
the most epic things ever
done in the wrestling business.
1552
01:16:43,510 --> 01:16:44,850
There's that fresh arrogance!
1553
01:16:45,470 --> 01:16:47,670
70,000, Shannon HBK...
1554
01:17:00,170 --> 01:17:03,530
You know when you're in the middle
of something really special, and we did.
1555
01:17:17,140 --> 01:17:19,180
I just remember
getting to Shawn.
1556
01:17:19,181 --> 01:17:22,600
And we just embraced and
hugged and thanked each other.
1557
01:17:22,780 --> 01:17:24,240
It was an awesome moment.
1558
01:17:24,740 --> 01:17:26,740
I was on the ride
home the next day.
1559
01:17:26,860 --> 01:17:30,300
It's just settling into me that I just
don't know that I'm ever going to...
1560
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:33,280
encounter from a
performance standpoint...
1561
01:17:34,260 --> 01:17:37,900
anything greater than that
thing that I experienced last night.
1562
01:17:38,440 --> 01:17:42,980
There was only one match that
can be considered match of the year.
1563
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:44,600
Shawn Michaels
and The Undertaker.
1564
01:17:49,530 --> 01:17:50,050
Undertaker!
1565
01:17:50,051 --> 01:17:51,990
I can beat you.
1566
01:17:52,970 --> 01:17:54,010
You and me.
1567
01:17:55,830 --> 01:17:59,010
WrestleMania one more time.
1568
01:18:03,480 --> 01:18:06,200
So I remember tuning
in to WrestleMania 26.
1569
01:18:06,580 --> 01:18:10,060
But I had a knot in my
stomach knowing that if Shawn
1570
01:18:10,061 --> 01:18:12,821
Michaels wasn't able to win
this one that he would retire.
1571
01:18:13,100 --> 01:18:16,880
But it was a beautiful artistic way to
end the career of Shawn Michaels.
1572
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:19,520
Shawn
1573
01:18:28,130 --> 01:18:29,150
Michaels career!
1574
01:18:30,790 --> 01:18:31,790
It's over.
1575
01:18:32,270 --> 01:18:33,370
My heart was broken.
1576
01:18:33,490 --> 01:18:34,350
My heart was broken.
1577
01:18:34,450 --> 01:18:36,606
But I'm glad also that he
got to leave on his own terms.
1578
01:18:36,630 --> 01:18:38,630
It was important that I
needed to get out of there.
1579
01:18:38,990 --> 01:18:42,130
To let the fans show him the
appreciation that he deserves.
1580
01:18:46,650 --> 01:18:49,418
You have to imagine that
Tom Brady and Michael
1581
01:18:49,419 --> 01:18:52,250
Jordan as much as
they appreciate the fans.
1582
01:18:52,530 --> 01:18:56,270
I think more than anything it's about their
teammates and the people that they play.
1583
01:18:56,490 --> 01:18:57,710
That means the most to them.
1584
01:19:02,810 --> 01:19:06,450
A lot of times there's still a
chasing of that last perfect one.
1585
01:19:06,710 --> 01:19:10,610
And that's why I'm so appreciative
that I can define some form of finish line.
1586
01:19:12,410 --> 01:19:14,190
There's two things
that I thrive on.
1587
01:19:14,310 --> 01:19:15,706
There's two things
that I'm in love with.
1588
01:19:15,730 --> 01:19:18,590
Which is, you know, Rebecca and
the kids and the wrestling business.
1589
01:19:21,610 --> 01:19:24,230
They're the two greatest loves
of my life that's never changed.
1590
01:19:29,930 --> 01:19:31,545
You've probably been
to more ladder matches
1591
01:19:31,546 --> 01:19:34,151
than half the people in
the ring I would match.
1592
01:19:38,690 --> 01:19:39,148
You've probably been
to more ladder matches
1593
01:19:39,149 --> 01:19:40,010
than half the people in
the ring I would match.
1594
01:19:40,011 --> 01:19:41,830
It's awesome for me
to have Shawn there.
1595
01:19:42,430 --> 01:19:43,790
He'll tell you
what he's thinking.
1596
01:19:44,150 --> 01:19:45,470
He'll tell you
what I'm thinking.
1597
01:19:46,050 --> 01:19:47,530
And there's a chemistry there.
1598
01:19:47,570 --> 01:19:49,250
We have this uncanny
thing with each other.
1599
01:19:52,150 --> 01:19:53,590
Shawn's a legend.
1600
01:19:54,310 --> 01:19:58,530
And for a legend to walk into
an environment full of performers.
1601
01:19:58,870 --> 01:20:01,670
They revere him so much.
1602
01:20:03,730 --> 01:20:04,730
NXT TakeOver!
1603
01:20:04,950 --> 01:20:07,690
There is the North
American Championship.
1604
01:20:07,910 --> 01:20:09,390
Who will climb the ladder?
1605
01:20:09,770 --> 01:20:12,430
Shawn has been a role model
both in and out of the ring.
1606
01:20:14,030 --> 01:20:15,710
I have so much
respect for that man.
1607
01:20:15,850 --> 01:20:18,450
For not just what he's done
for professional wrestling.
1608
01:20:18,570 --> 01:20:19,690
The type of person he is.
1609
01:20:21,450 --> 01:20:24,250
To me and so many
others, he's the greatest.
1610
01:20:26,730 --> 01:20:30,970
And it's insane how kind,
generous and humble the guy is.
1611
01:20:31,150 --> 01:20:32,150
Good stuff.
1612
01:20:32,630 --> 01:20:36,210
Sometimes I think he doesn't
realize that he's Shawn Michaels.
1613
01:20:46,130 --> 01:20:50,110
When you said, a tale of
two lives, that's what it's been.
1614
01:20:53,070 --> 01:20:57,080
Believe it or not, the same
business that might have almost
1615
01:20:57,081 --> 01:20:59,750
killed me, I think it's the
same business that saved me.
1616
01:20:59,830 --> 01:21:01,150
You did a great job.
1617
01:21:01,850 --> 01:21:03,430
These guys are
easy to work with.
1618
01:21:04,010 --> 01:21:05,290
That was freaking awesome.
1619
01:21:05,291 --> 01:21:07,510
I know I accomplished
more than what I wanted.
1620
01:21:08,490 --> 01:21:11,351
I've never lost touch
with a 19-year-old dude
1621
01:21:11,352 --> 01:21:13,670
that was hoping to have
a car and an apartment.
1622
01:21:13,970 --> 01:21:15,890
And be the Southwest
Heavyweight Champion.
1623
01:21:16,630 --> 01:21:18,250
A lot more has
happened since then.
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