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the people are represented
by two separate
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yet equally important groups--
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the police,
who investigate crime,
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and the district attorneys
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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Last year was
a total aberration.
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Last year was the beginning
of a dynasty with a capital "D."
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Without Pedro, no way.
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That's right--
who's your daddy?
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At least
it's not Steinbrenner.
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Big Unit, baby.
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World Championship back
where it belongs--the Bronx!
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Pedro is a Met.
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Good luck.
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Guy's been in there
half an hour.
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Hey, fella!
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Everything all right?
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Think he died in there.
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It smells like he did.
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Come on!
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Morning rus,
8:22 to Grand Centra.
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Five D.O.A.s
and counting.
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What about the driver?
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Dogs don't think
anybody's in there.
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We'll know for sure
once we open her up.
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Witnesses?
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Two so far.
Railroad guys.
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Don't know how much
they could have seen,
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fixing a switch
100 yards away.
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We'll need to talk to them
anyway.
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Casey Jones, too.
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Casey Jones?
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The driver of the train.
That what-do-you-call-it.
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The engineer.
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This isn't some crossing
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in the middle of a cornfield
in Kansas.
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How the hell did this
thing get on the tracks?
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There's a busted guard gate
up the service road.
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It looks like
he crashed through there.
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Any security video?
Supposed to be.
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I'll call the monitoring center
and get it cued up.
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From every camera
in the yard,
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and we're gonna need
I.D. on this vehicle.
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We ran the plates
already--stolen.
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Off a car in Van Cortland Park
three days ago.
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Soon as C.S.U.
finds the VIN--
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Rest of the passengers,
bumps and bruises?
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We need everybody I.D.'d,
everybody interviewed.
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There's a public school
close by.
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We're gonna
bus 'em over there,
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follow up at the hospitals
with the serious injured later.
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All right, thanks a lot,
Sarge. Good work.
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Stolen plates, busted gate,
restricted area--
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this is no accident.
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He'd have to know about
the gates, the schedule,
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the crossing.
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A disgruntled employee?
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Been known to happen.
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Mayhem in the workplace.
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That's one possibility.
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I have another.
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Terrorists.
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That's a cheery thought.
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I'm full of them, pal.
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.
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I couldn't believe my eyes.
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No signals,
no alarms?
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No warning whatsoever.
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Just that damned SUV
looming up at me.
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I slammed on the brakes,
but--
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felt like we were
going over a cliff.
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Slid right into him.
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You know,
I maybe heard something
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coming over the radio
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just as we were
plowing into the guy.
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A warning?
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Could have been.
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Tell you the truth,
between the horn and the brakes
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and the sound of the crash,
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my ears are still ringing.
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You get anything?
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No, they were clear down
at the other end of the yard.
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They didn't even
see the crash.
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Any trace of the driver?
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Dogs were right--whoever
was in there is long gone.
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Seven dead her,
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half a dozen on their wy
to the O.R,
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could go either way.
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Did they get everyone
off the train?
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So they tell me.
All right, thanks.
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What do we have?
Seven so far.
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It could possibly go
as high as 13.
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What about the driver?
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No trace of the bastard.
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Are the feds working
the terrorist angle?
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The Joint Terrorism
Task Force
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is checking to see if today
is some kind of anniversary
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that might have
triggered an attack.
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Grand Central,
Penn Station, and Metro-North
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are all on Red Alert.
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Anybody take credit
for it yet?
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Not yet.
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Well, if he is a terrorist,
he's no suicide martyr.
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Not all of them are.
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The guys who hit
the trains in Madrid
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hid their bombs
in suitcases and gym bags
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and got the hell
out of there.
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Like this guy.
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I gotta tell you,
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this doesn't feel like
a terrorist.
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Feels like
a nut job to me.
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Well, let's hope
you're right.
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Oh, man.
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He just blew
right on through there.
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Yeah, but the question is,
who was minding the store?
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When the car
crashed through the gate,
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why didn't it
set off an alarm?
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It did, but by the time
we radioed the train--
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Why the slow response?
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Happened at shift change.
8:00 a.m.
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Yeah, sure.
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Coffee and Danish,
somebody reading a newspaper,
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and nobody's paying attention
to the monitors.
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Guy knew what he was doing.
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Pull it up a little closer.
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Well,
somebody's in there,
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but I can't tell if he's
black or white, young or old.
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Male or female,
for that matter.
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Camera set to catch kids
coming over the gate.
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Trespassers...
not cars crashing through it.
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Well, he crashed the gate
8:00 straight up, right?
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Collision with the train
occurred 8:03.
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It's cutting it pretty close.
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What time was
the sight secured?
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8:20.
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So he had time
to get away.
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How many ways
out of the train yard?
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A couple of pedestrian gates,
but they were locked.
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Security cameras?
We've already
looked at that footage.
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Nobody in
or out of those gates
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before or after.
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Maybe he walked out
the way he came in,
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right through there.
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He might still be in
with the passengers,
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hiding in plain sight.
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Parks the SUV
on the tracks,
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sticks around
to see what happens.
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All that chaos,
who's gonna notice?
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Yeah, then they
seal off the scene,
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he's stuck, gets processed
with everyone else.
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We'll go back, see if
they come across anybody
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that doesn't seem to fit.
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We processed 100, roughly.
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Another 120 or so to go.
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What about the ones
who went to hospitals?
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We'll follow up on them
in a day or two.
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Do you get aided reports
on everybody?
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Looking at I.D.s,
addresses,
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dates of birth,
where people got on,
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where they were headed.
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Tickets?
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If they got 'em.
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A lot of people don't.
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It's a commuter line.
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You ever ride it?
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Perish the thought.
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Yeah, well, it's pretty casual
as far as tickets go.
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A lot of monthly passes.
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Is there anyone
we should re-interview?
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Nobody on the train
saw nothing.
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I mean, one minute
they're cruising along
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like every other day,
and the next--
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We were just wondering
if one of the passengers
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wasn't a passenger at all.
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You mean the driver
of the SUV?
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Anybody strikes us
as wrong,
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we flag 'em.
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Definitely.
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What's the latest tally?
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Last I heard,
it was up to nine.
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Fontana.
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Well, that's great,
thanks.
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We got the VIN number.
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What about prints,
DNA?
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Come on, you don't want
the whole thing
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handed to you
on a silver platter, do you?
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Why not, a ground ball
every once in a while?
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The SUV belongs
to a guy named Lenny Thorne.
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Why does that name
sound ring a bell?
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Date raper,
hung jury, mistrial.
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Right, the D.A.'s gonna
retry the case.
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He even held a press conference
to that effect.
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Guess wo
the A.D.A. wa.
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Mark Nesoff.
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Should I know that name?
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Doesn't matter.
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Guess where he was
yesterday morning.
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On the train?
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On his way
into the office.
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Nesoff lives in Chappaqua.
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He takes the same train
into Grand Central
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every day of the week.
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It wouldn't be hard
for Thorne to figure that out.
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What do we know
about this Mr. Thorne?
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Systems analyst.
He's a college-educated creep.
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There was an earlier case.
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The woman
dropped the criminal charges.
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She took a big civil settlement.
His family paid her off.
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I'm not sure it's enough
for a warrant.
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Well, it should be.
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Well, this is a terrorist
investigation, right?
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As of now.
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Patriot Act.
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We got more than enough
to get a warrant under that.
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I assume
he's armed and dangerous.
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Polic!
Freez!
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Get your hands u!
Let me see your hand!
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Bathroom's clear.
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Hands on your head!
On your knees.
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Shut your mouth
and get on your knees!
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What is this about?
Shut up!
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You heard the man--
shut up!
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Detectives, I found this
in the bedroom closet.
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If it isn't mine.
I have no idea how it got there.
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Man, don't even go there.
We're not in the mood.
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You don't kno?
Nope, I don't know.
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But it's your car.
Must have been stolen.
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Did you report it?
Didn't know it was gone
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'til y'all come
crashing in my apartment.
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When was the last time
you saw it?
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Couple of days ago.
Told you.
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Found a primo parking spot.
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Didn't have to move it
'til Tuesday.
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You stole some plates,
you put 'em on your car,
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you drove the car
onto the tracks,
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derailing the train
and killing ten--
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Twelve.
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Twelve people,
and injuring
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God knows
how many others.
Wasn't me.
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You know who
was on that train?
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No idea, man.
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Mark Nesoff.
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Nesoff the D.A.?
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No way.
Way.
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He hurt?
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Too bad for you,
no, he wasn't.
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It's quite a coincidence
that your car
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derails the train
that Nesoff is on.
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All it is--a coincidence.
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Oh, no, Lenny,
it's much more than that.
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It's called motive.
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M-O-T-I-V-E, motive.
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I'm not worried about
the retrial,
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if that's why you
think I did this.
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You tied that girl up
in her own apartment.
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You raped her at gunpoint.
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It was a game.
She asked me to.
258
00:09:13,511 --> 00:09:14,512
Is that how she wound up
in the hospital--
259
00:09:14,596 --> 00:09:15,430
playing a game?
260
00:09:15,513 --> 00:09:17,557
They got you cold
on rape, sodomy,
261
00:09:17,682 --> 00:09:19,768
false imprisonment--
262
00:09:19,893 --> 00:09:21,603
I'll beat the next one,
same as I beat the first trial.
263
00:09:21,686 --> 00:09:23,438
A mistrial?
Hung jury?
264
00:09:23,563 --> 00:09:25,732
You won't get
that lucky again.
265
00:09:25,815 --> 00:09:27,442
Luck had nothing
to do with it.
266
00:09:27,567 --> 00:09:29,152
All I need is one girl
on that jury
267
00:09:29,277 --> 00:09:31,071
to make eye contact with.
268
00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:35,742
You're not that charming.
269
00:09:35,867 --> 00:09:38,453
I just convince her
I could never have done
270
00:09:38,536 --> 00:09:41,206
such a nasty thing
as they claim I did.
271
00:09:41,289 --> 00:09:43,625
She looks in my eyes,
and she knows.
272
00:09:43,750 --> 00:09:47,754
I'm not that kind of guy.
273
00:09:53,468 --> 00:09:55,595
He's a cocky bastard.
274
00:09:55,678 --> 00:09:57,263
Guy's a piece of work.
275
00:09:57,389 --> 00:09:58,515
So what do you think?
276
00:09:58,598 --> 00:09:59,474
Oh, I like him
277
00:09:59,599 --> 00:10:00,809
a lot for it.
278
00:10:00,934 --> 00:10:03,353
I think he looks good--
means, motive, opportunity.
279
00:10:03,436 --> 00:10:04,521
He's got no alibi
to speak of.
280
00:10:06,231 --> 00:10:08,483
Sorry to disturb you, Lou.
Lab said it was urgent.
281
00:10:08,566 --> 00:10:09,651
Thank.
282
00:10:09,776 --> 00:10:11,611
Well, they got
two sets of prints
283
00:10:11,695 --> 00:10:13,405
on the steering wheel.
284
00:10:13,488 --> 00:10:15,448
Thorne's and someone
who's not in the system.
285
00:10:15,573 --> 00:10:16,616
Doesn't mean anything.
286
00:10:16,700 --> 00:10:17,617
He's right.
287
00:10:17,701 --> 00:10:19,411
He could have
loaned his car to a friend
288
00:10:19,494 --> 00:10:21,079
a week ago
or a month ago.
289
00:10:21,162 --> 00:10:22,580
Well, it's better
to put it to rest anyway.
290
00:10:22,664 --> 00:10:23,790
Go on over to Intel.
291
00:10:23,915 --> 00:10:26,292
See if they finished
checking backgrounds
292
00:10:26,376 --> 00:10:27,127
on the passengers.
293
00:10:27,168 --> 00:10:28,670
What about
Prince Charming here?
294
00:10:28,795 --> 00:10:30,547
We were just
getting stared.
295
00:10:30,672 --> 00:10:32,257
I'll take care
of him.
296
00:10:36,594 --> 00:10:40,140
Post-9/11, we do more terrorism
than drug work, truthfully.
297
00:10:40,223 --> 00:10:42,642
We have agents from
customs, immigration,
298
00:10:42,767 --> 00:10:45,770
N.Y.P.D., D.E.A.,
I.R.S., F.B.I.,
299
00:10:45,854 --> 00:10:46,855
and access
to all their systems.
300
00:10:46,980 --> 00:10:49,524
Do you think that this
was a terrorist attack?
301
00:10:49,649 --> 00:10:52,193
At first, I thought,
"Okay, here we go."
302
00:10:52,318 --> 00:10:55,071
But it's been quiet--
no chatter, no other incidents.
303
00:10:55,196 --> 00:10:56,531
We're starting to be
reasonably confident
304
00:10:56,656 --> 00:10:58,616
this was an isolated
criminal act only.
305
00:10:58,742 --> 00:11:00,702
We hear you have
a suspect in custody.
306
00:11:00,827 --> 00:11:02,370
Yeah, looks good for it.
307
00:11:02,495 --> 00:11:03,621
But there's a second
set of prints.
308
00:11:03,705 --> 00:11:04,664
And we all know
that fingerprints
309
00:11:04,748 --> 00:11:05,832
don't come
with a timestamp.
310
00:11:05,957 --> 00:11:08,668
You complete the backgrounds
on all the aideds yet?
311
00:11:08,752 --> 00:11:10,378
Yeah.
Anybody jump out at you?
312
00:11:10,462 --> 00:11:11,671
Aside from
the faked injuries
313
00:11:11,796 --> 00:11:13,673
in anticipation of a big
insurance settlement
314
00:11:13,757 --> 00:11:14,674
with the railroad?
315
00:11:14,758 --> 00:11:16,301
People are amazing.
316
00:11:16,384 --> 00:11:18,845
Hey, you have to answer
when opportunity knocks.
317
00:11:18,970 --> 00:11:21,556
12 men betwen
the ages of 16 and 7,
318
00:11:21,681 --> 00:11:23,850
with no ticket stub,
no monthly pass,
319
00:11:23,975 --> 00:11:25,643
couldn't remember
where they boarded the train,
320
00:11:25,727 --> 00:11:27,354
or had an inappropriate address
321
00:11:27,479 --> 00:11:28,855
relative to ther
station sto.
322
00:11:28,980 --> 00:11:29,856
You run 'em?
323
00:11:29,898 --> 00:11:31,733
No criminal records,
not on any watch list.
324
00:11:31,858 --> 00:11:32,776
Four were vets.
325
00:11:32,901 --> 00:11:33,693
We had B.C.I.
do a comparison
326
00:11:33,818 --> 00:11:35,403
against the secod
set of print.
327
00:11:35,487 --> 00:11:37,614
Eliminated them right away.
328
00:11:37,697 --> 00:11:40,742
Here are the other eight
for what it's worth.
329
00:11:40,825 --> 00:11:42,535
Thank you very much.
330
00:11:42,619 --> 00:11:44,788
My pleasur.
331
00:11:44,871 --> 00:11:47,082
Well, two of them
live uptown here
332
00:11:47,165 --> 00:11:49,501
where Throne says
his SUV was stolen.
333
00:11:49,584 --> 00:11:52,212
This list assumes these guys
had real I.D.s.
334
00:11:52,337 --> 00:11:55,924
But let's say that the driver
is not a terrorist.
335
00:11:56,049 --> 00:11:57,842
He stays around too long.
He gets stuck there.
336
00:11:57,926 --> 00:11:59,386
Has to show
his real I.D.
337
00:11:59,469 --> 00:12:01,513
What do we got to lose?
338
00:12:01,596 --> 00:12:03,556
I was visiting
my girlfriend.
339
00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:04,682
You told the detective
340
00:12:04,766 --> 00:12:06,726
you boarded the train
at Purchase.
341
00:12:06,810 --> 00:12:08,478
I was confused, okay?
342
00:12:08,561 --> 00:12:09,729
Freaked out.
I hit my head in the crash.
343
00:12:09,854 --> 00:12:11,564
I was groggy, okay?
344
00:12:11,648 --> 00:12:14,150
I kept saying Purchase.
I meant White Plains.
345
00:12:14,234 --> 00:12:15,860
My girlfriend
goes to Purchase.
346
00:12:15,944 --> 00:12:17,904
Her folks live
in White Plains, okay?
347
00:12:17,988 --> 00:12:20,573
Would you watch your tone
of voice with us, please?
348
00:12:20,699 --> 00:12:23,910
What are you,
my parents?
349
00:12:28,915 --> 00:12:32,085
If you don't stop acting
like a tough guy right now,
350
00:12:32,210 --> 00:12:34,337
I'm gonna take you
over my knee,
351
00:12:34,421 --> 00:12:36,297
and I'm gonna spank you...
352
00:12:36,423 --> 00:12:38,383
in front
of all of your friends.
353
00:12:38,508 --> 00:12:40,885
You get the message?
354
00:12:40,969 --> 00:12:42,345
Sorry.
355
00:12:46,558 --> 00:12:49,310
You showed the detective
a student I.D.?
356
00:12:49,436 --> 00:12:50,729
Yeah.
We need to see it.
357
00:12:50,812 --> 00:12:52,647
Uh, sure.
358
00:12:52,731 --> 00:12:54,607
I already told the cops
I didn't see anything
359
00:12:54,691 --> 00:12:55,692
before the crash.
360
00:12:55,775 --> 00:12:56,901
Police officers.
What?
361
00:12:56,985 --> 00:12:58,903
Cops,
it's an offensive term.
362
00:12:58,987 --> 00:13:01,281
Oh...okay.
I didn't know.
363
00:13:01,364 --> 00:13:03,241
Now you do.
364
00:13:03,325 --> 00:13:05,785
Okay, we're gonna
have to copy this,
365
00:13:05,869 --> 00:13:06,786
see if it's authentic.
366
00:13:06,870 --> 00:13:08,288
These are easy to fake.
367
00:13:08,371 --> 00:13:10,415
Man, I need it to get
into the student union.
368
00:13:10,498 --> 00:13:11,750
How am I gonna get dinner?
369
00:13:11,833 --> 00:13:12,751
You don't have anything else?
370
00:13:12,834 --> 00:13:14,586
Passport, driver's license?
371
00:13:14,669 --> 00:13:16,504
Neither one.
372
00:13:16,629 --> 00:13:18,048
How come you don't
have a driver's license?
373
00:13:18,173 --> 00:13:19,674
I don't drive.
374
00:13:19,799 --> 00:13:21,384
You don't know
how to drive a car?
375
00:13:21,468 --> 00:13:23,470
This is New York City.
376
00:13:23,595 --> 00:13:24,971
I never had to learn.
377
00:13:25,096 --> 00:13:27,640
I'm third generation
no-driver's-license New Yorker.
378
00:13:27,766 --> 00:13:29,851
No driver's license,
no passport.
379
00:13:29,976 --> 00:13:31,811
So if we said to you,
"Don't leave town..."
380
00:13:31,936 --> 00:13:34,105
I wouldn't dream of it.
381
00:13:37,317 --> 00:13:39,986
Dave Buckley, 35,
construction worker.
382
00:13:40,111 --> 00:13:42,322
Cuts and bruises,
treated at the scene.
383
00:13:42,405 --> 00:13:44,824
Well, at least this guy
has a driver's license.
384
00:13:44,908 --> 00:13:46,368
I'd like to get
done with this thing,
385
00:13:46,493 --> 00:13:48,036
have another go
at Lenny Thorne.
386
00:13:48,119 --> 00:13:49,829
So would I.
387
00:13:50,997 --> 00:13:52,248
Who is it?
388
00:13:52,374 --> 00:13:54,626
New York City Police Department,
Mr. Buckley.
389
00:13:54,709 --> 00:13:56,419
Hang on a secon.
390
00:13:57,837 --> 00:14:00,131
Hey, yeah.
Come on in.
391
00:14:01,841 --> 00:14:04,177
Ah, sorry about
the mess there.
392
00:14:04,302 --> 00:14:05,678
I'm not much
of a housekeeper.
393
00:14:05,804 --> 00:14:07,681
Here, let me clear you
a spot there.
394
00:14:07,806 --> 00:14:09,849
That's okay, we won't
be here that long.
395
00:14:09,974 --> 00:14:11,393
We just wanted to ask you
a few more questions
396
00:14:11,518 --> 00:14:12,727
about the train.
397
00:14:12,811 --> 00:14:14,687
Looks like you got
cut up a little bit.
398
00:14:14,813 --> 00:14:16,648
Yeah, you know,
flying glass.
399
00:14:16,731 --> 00:14:17,982
You got kid?
400
00:14:18,066 --> 00:14:20,485
Yeah, that's my daughter.
She's six.
401
00:14:20,568 --> 00:14:21,528
Going on 16.
402
00:14:21,653 --> 00:14:22,779
Yeah, I know
what you mean.
403
00:14:22,862 --> 00:14:23,863
I got two--
a boy and a girl.
404
00:14:23,989 --> 00:14:25,115
Three and six also.
405
00:14:25,198 --> 00:14:27,742
Yeah, little girls,
they're the best, though, huh?
406
00:14:27,826 --> 00:14:29,411
That father-daughter thing.
407
00:14:29,536 --> 00:14:30,578
Oh, it's great.
408
00:14:30,662 --> 00:14:31,830
Yeah, I wish
I could freeze her
409
00:14:31,913 --> 00:14:32,998
at just at that age,
you know?
410
00:14:33,081 --> 00:14:34,374
You divorced?
411
00:14:34,457 --> 00:14:35,542
Separated.
412
00:14:35,625 --> 00:14:37,919
Uh, you know, just, uh--
413
00:14:38,044 --> 00:14:39,254
just a temporary thing.
414
00:14:39,337 --> 00:14:41,798
You know how it is.
415
00:14:41,881 --> 00:14:42,882
Ups and downs.
416
00:14:42,966 --> 00:14:43,758
We'll work it out.
417
00:14:43,883 --> 00:14:45,635
Your wrist.
418
00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,053
Huh?
419
00:14:47,137 --> 00:14:48,930
Your writ
is bleedin.
420
00:14:49,055 --> 00:14:51,850
Ah, yeah, I don't know
why that keeps doing that.
421
00:14:51,933 --> 00:14:53,393
That happen
at the wreck?
422
00:14:53,476 --> 00:14:54,769
Yeah, yeah.
423
00:14:54,853 --> 00:14:55,895
Well, they should have taken you
to the hospital,
424
00:14:55,979 --> 00:14:57,772
had it sewn u.
425
00:14:57,897 --> 00:14:59,941
Yeah, well, I mean,
they wanted to, but I...
426
00:15:00,066 --> 00:15:01,985
But what?
You refused medical aid?
427
00:15:02,068 --> 00:15:05,155
I don't have insurance.
428
00:15:05,238 --> 00:15:07,991
Uh-huh.
429
00:15:11,995 --> 00:15:12,954
That looks pretty fresh.
430
00:15:13,079 --> 00:15:15,665
Yeah, well, I had it
butterflied.
431
00:15:15,790 --> 00:15:17,584
I guess it probably
busted loose.
432
00:15:17,709 --> 00:15:20,003
I want to take
a look at that.
433
00:15:32,223 --> 00:15:34,184
Oh, yeah.
434
00:15:34,267 --> 00:15:35,810
Yeah.
435
00:15:35,935 --> 00:15:37,520
That's gonna need
a fresh bandage.
436
00:15:37,604 --> 00:15:40,482
Yeah, there's some, uh--
some gauze over there.
437
00:15:40,607 --> 00:15:43,026
Nick.
Yeah.
438
00:15:50,033 --> 00:15:52,702
This is not right.
439
00:15:52,786 --> 00:15:54,913
This is not right at all.
440
00:15:54,996 --> 00:15:56,122
What do you mean?
441
00:15:56,247 --> 00:15:59,459
Well, this wasn't caused
by flying glass.
442
00:15:59,584 --> 00:16:00,794
Yeah, yeah, sure it was.
443
00:16:00,919 --> 00:16:01,961
No.
444
00:16:02,087 --> 00:16:04,130
No, it's too clean.
445
00:16:04,214 --> 00:16:06,883
This was caused
by a blade.
446
00:16:06,966 --> 00:16:09,594
You cut yourself.
You slashed your wrist.
447
00:16:09,677 --> 00:16:11,179
I-I didn't.
448
00:16:11,304 --> 00:16:12,263
Nick.
449
00:16:12,389 --> 00:16:14,015
No, that's a blade cut.
No question.
450
00:16:14,140 --> 00:16:17,102
Why would you do that?
451
00:16:17,185 --> 00:16:18,770
I-I don't know.
I didn't--
452
00:16:18,853 --> 00:16:19,938
Well, you're gonna
need a doctor.
453
00:16:20,021 --> 00:16:23,024
I don't know,
I didn't...
454
00:16:23,149 --> 00:16:27,237
Why would you do
such a thing, David?
455
00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:28,738
David?
456
00:16:33,034 --> 00:16:35,078
I didn't mean
to hurt anybody.
457
00:16:38,206 --> 00:16:40,000
I didn't mean
to kill anybody.
458
00:16:40,125 --> 00:16:43,003
You killed 12 people.
459
00:16:51,803 --> 00:16:54,014
God, I'm sorry.
460
00:16:56,975 --> 00:16:59,185
I just meant to kill myself.
461
00:17:01,479 --> 00:17:03,732
You wanna give us
a statement now?
462
00:17:03,857 --> 00:17:06,609
Ah, sure, why not?
463
00:17:18,371 --> 00:17:21,041
Do I think he really
meant to commit suicide
464
00:17:21,124 --> 00:17:23,877
when he put that SUV
in front of the train?
465
00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,170
I don't know.
466
00:17:25,253 --> 00:17:26,921
What difference
does it make?
467
00:17:27,005 --> 00:17:29,049
It might influence
how he's charged.
468
00:17:29,174 --> 00:17:31,509
His DNA's in the vehicle.
469
00:17:31,593 --> 00:17:33,219
His prints
are on the steering wheel.
470
00:17:33,345 --> 00:17:35,013
His signature's
on the confession.
471
00:17:35,096 --> 00:17:36,056
Is it bullet-proof?
472
00:17:36,181 --> 00:17:38,266
Witnessed, videotaped.
473
00:17:38,391 --> 00:17:40,101
Wish there had
been a lawyer there.
474
00:17:40,185 --> 00:17:41,227
He didn't want one.
475
00:17:41,311 --> 00:17:43,438
Look, I hope
you're charging him
476
00:17:43,521 --> 00:17:45,106
with 12 counts
of Murder One,
477
00:17:45,190 --> 00:17:47,359
250 counts
of attempted murder,
478
00:17:47,442 --> 00:17:49,444
and whatever else
you can throw at him.
479
00:17:49,527 --> 00:17:52,322
I was at the scene, Counselor.
480
00:17:52,447 --> 00:17:54,532
And if this case
doesn't help bring back
481
00:17:54,616 --> 00:17:57,077
the death penalty
in New York State,
482
00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,497
I don't know what will.
483
00:18:00,580 --> 00:18:02,957
It's hard to know where
to begin with Mr. Buckley.
484
00:18:03,041 --> 00:18:04,292
I think we can hold
485
00:18:04,417 --> 00:18:06,628
the multitude
of lesser counts in reserve.
486
00:18:06,711 --> 00:18:09,506
So the question is,
which theory of Murder Two?
487
00:18:09,589 --> 00:18:12,092
Why wouldn't you hedge
your bets and charge both?
488
00:18:12,217 --> 00:18:14,386
Until recently,
that's exactly what we'd do.
489
00:18:14,469 --> 00:18:15,929
There was a red-alert
ruling last year,
490
00:18:16,054 --> 00:18:17,055
People v. Payne.
491
00:18:17,138 --> 00:18:18,556
I'm not familiar with it.
492
00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,934
The defendant shot
the victim in the stomach
493
00:18:21,059 --> 00:18:22,018
with a shotgun.
494
00:18:22,102 --> 00:18:23,436
There was some question
about why,
495
00:18:23,561 --> 00:18:26,022
so we charged him with
both theories of Murder Two.
496
00:18:26,106 --> 00:18:28,274
The jury acquitted
on Intentional,
497
00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:29,984
convicted on
Depraved Indifference.
498
00:18:30,068 --> 00:18:32,570
So the strategy worked.
You got your fall-back position.
499
00:18:32,654 --> 00:18:34,614
The Court of Appeals
overturned
500
00:18:34,698 --> 00:18:36,282
the Depraved Indifference
conviction.
501
00:18:36,366 --> 00:18:37,367
Insufficient evidence.
502
00:18:37,492 --> 00:18:39,160
And since he'd already
503
00:18:39,285 --> 00:18:40,662
been acquitted
of Intentional--
504
00:18:40,745 --> 00:18:42,455
He walked.
505
00:18:42,539 --> 00:18:43,581
I think we go
with Depraved.
506
00:18:43,665 --> 00:18:45,834
Take the classic
law school example.
507
00:18:45,917 --> 00:18:48,002
Throwing open the lion's cage
in a crowded zoo
508
00:18:48,086 --> 00:18:49,587
without regard
for the consequences.
509
00:18:49,671 --> 00:18:51,631
That's exactly
what he did, isn't it?
510
00:18:51,715 --> 00:18:54,009
I'll draw up the indictment.
511
00:18:54,092 --> 00:18:55,844
Who's his lawyer?
Legal aid?
512
00:18:55,927 --> 00:18:58,388
Someone just agreed
to represent him pro bono.
513
00:18:58,471 --> 00:18:59,431
Rodney Fallon.
514
00:18:59,514 --> 00:19:02,308
You know hi?
515
00:19:02,392 --> 00:19:05,061
Let's arrange a meeting.
516
00:19:05,186 --> 00:19:10,358
My intent to file
an affirmative defense.
517
00:19:13,486 --> 00:19:15,947
Not Guilty
by Reason of Insanity?
518
00:19:16,031 --> 00:19:19,534
This is a textbook exampe
of Depraved Indifferenc.
519
00:19:19,659 --> 00:19:23,621
And given that less than 1%
of insanity defenses succeed--
520
00:19:23,705 --> 00:19:25,498
It's still on the books.
It ought to have some validity.
521
00:19:25,623 --> 00:19:28,084
The public doesn't believe
in insanity defenses anymore.
522
00:19:28,168 --> 00:19:29,544
Look at Andrea Yates--
if a woman
523
00:19:29,627 --> 00:19:31,629
who drowns her four children
isn't crazy, who is?
524
00:19:31,713 --> 00:19:33,673
That's Texas.
This is New York City.
525
00:19:33,757 --> 00:19:35,216
I don't think there's
a red state/blue state
526
00:19:35,342 --> 00:19:36,593
schism on this issue.
527
00:19:36,676 --> 00:19:38,720
We have every confidence of
prevailing in front of a jury.
528
00:19:38,845 --> 00:19:41,181
The jury is going to see a very
sympathetic man, Ms. Borgia.
529
00:19:41,264 --> 00:19:42,515
Not a monster.
530
00:19:42,599 --> 00:19:45,143
Someone who deserves treatment,
not punishment.
531
00:19:45,268 --> 00:19:46,144
What are you looking for?
532
00:19:46,269 --> 00:19:48,146
Man Two.
533
00:19:48,229 --> 00:19:49,689
Are you joking?
534
00:19:49,773 --> 00:19:52,108
15 years, each count,
to be served concurrently.
535
00:19:52,233 --> 00:19:54,194
As if he'd killed
one person and not 12?
536
00:19:54,319 --> 00:19:56,363
That was his intent,
one person: himself.
537
00:19:56,446 --> 00:19:59,532
I share my colleague's distaste
for your proposal.
538
00:19:59,616 --> 00:20:01,409
Well, make me a counter.
539
00:20:01,493 --> 00:20:04,371
You shouldn't mislead
your client, Mr. Fallon.
540
00:20:04,496 --> 00:20:06,414
He's going to prison
for the rest of his life.
541
00:20:06,498 --> 00:20:08,375
That's no incentive.
542
00:20:08,500 --> 00:20:12,170
We understand that he has
a large extended family.
543
00:20:12,253 --> 00:20:13,630
We'll recommend that he
serve his sentence
544
00:20:13,755 --> 00:20:16,007
in a downstate
penitentiary.
545
00:20:16,091 --> 00:20:17,384
No sale.
546
00:20:19,302 --> 00:20:21,388
Schedule a 7:30 exam.
547
00:20:21,471 --> 00:20:23,223
I have no doubt
he will be
548
00:20:23,306 --> 00:20:25,183
judged competet
to stand tria.
549
00:20:25,266 --> 00:20:27,227
No doubt.
550
00:20:27,310 --> 00:20:29,604
As you say, Ms. Borgia.
551
00:20:29,688 --> 00:20:33,066
These days, everyone's
competent to stand trial.
552
00:20:33,191 --> 00:20:35,568
No matter how crazy
they are.
553
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,702
The defendant stole
an SUV,
554
00:20:43,785 --> 00:20:45,829
crashed it through
a security gate,
555
00:20:45,912 --> 00:20:50,417
and left it directly in the path
of a high-speed commuter train
556
00:20:50,500 --> 00:20:52,377
full of people
on their way to work.
557
00:20:52,460 --> 00:20:54,629
He killed 12.
558
00:20:54,713 --> 00:20:58,425
Injured
more than 150 others.
559
00:20:58,550 --> 00:21:00,009
Some of them
sustained injuries
560
00:21:00,093 --> 00:21:02,095
that will cripple them
for the rest of their lives.
561
00:21:02,178 --> 00:21:05,557
He put every single person
on that train at risk.
562
00:21:05,682 --> 00:21:10,145
Why he did it
is irrelevant.
563
00:21:10,228 --> 00:21:11,604
That he did it,
564
00:21:11,730 --> 00:21:13,732
is incontrovertible.
565
00:21:13,857 --> 00:21:16,609
And ultimately
the only thing that matters.
566
00:21:29,330 --> 00:21:31,624
The deed speaks
for itself.
567
00:21:31,708 --> 00:21:33,793
Davey Buckley
was out of his mind.
568
00:21:33,918 --> 00:21:36,296
He wasn't thinking about the
consequences of his actions.
569
00:21:36,421 --> 00:21:37,505
He couldn't.
570
00:21:37,630 --> 00:21:40,383
He was focused solely
571
00:21:40,508 --> 00:21:45,388
on the insane act
of taking his own life.
572
00:21:45,513 --> 00:21:49,017
Davey Buckley has a troubled
history of behaviors
573
00:21:49,142 --> 00:21:52,395
that point to an undiagnosed
mental illness.
574
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,356
Depression.
575
00:21:54,439 --> 00:21:56,691
Bipolar disorder.
576
00:21:56,816 --> 00:21:59,611
He never had the resources
to get the help he needed.
577
00:21:59,694 --> 00:22:01,488
He fell
through the cracks.
578
00:22:01,571 --> 00:22:04,115
Davey Buckley was an accident
waiting to happen.
579
00:22:04,199 --> 00:22:06,743
Now, you and I know
that there is no safety net
580
00:22:06,826 --> 00:22:08,495
for the working poor.
581
00:22:08,620 --> 00:22:11,748
If he was rich,
or even middle-class,
582
00:22:11,873 --> 00:22:14,167
this never would
have occurred.
583
00:22:14,292 --> 00:22:17,629
Davey Buckley is not
584
00:22:17,712 --> 00:22:20,840
criminally responsible
for that tragic accident.
585
00:22:24,803 --> 00:22:27,097
He timed his arrivl
at the security gae
586
00:22:27,222 --> 00:22:29,766
with the shift change
at the monitoring station,
587
00:22:29,849 --> 00:22:31,518
so there was
minimal opportunity
588
00:22:31,643 --> 00:22:34,562
to alert the crew
and avert the collision.
589
00:22:34,646 --> 00:22:36,856
How would you characterize
his actions?
590
00:22:36,940 --> 00:22:38,316
Objection.
591
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:39,484
The witness
has no insight
592
00:22:39,567 --> 00:22:41,236
as to Mr. Buckley's
state of mind.
593
00:22:41,319 --> 00:22:43,154
Mr. McCoy.
594
00:22:43,238 --> 00:22:45,907
Detective...
595
00:22:46,032 --> 00:22:49,786
did you form an opinion
about the expertise
596
00:22:49,911 --> 00:22:50,870
and efficacy
597
00:22:50,954 --> 00:22:52,831
of the defendant's
criminal activities
598
00:22:52,914 --> 00:22:54,874
in relation
to this incident?
599
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,795
Highly-organized,
well-planned, well-executed.
600
00:22:58,878 --> 00:23:02,465
How about the defendant's
actions after the crash?
601
00:23:02,549 --> 00:23:04,384
He remaind
at the scen.
602
00:23:04,467 --> 00:23:06,261
Mingled in with
the real passengers.
603
00:23:06,386 --> 00:23:07,595
He used a pocket knife
604
00:23:07,721 --> 00:23:09,556
to inflict
some superficial wounds
605
00:23:09,639 --> 00:23:10,890
to his hands and arms.
606
00:23:10,974 --> 00:23:13,560
He was treated by medical
personnel and released.
607
00:23:13,685 --> 00:23:15,854
How do you interpret
those actions?
608
00:23:15,937 --> 00:23:17,397
He was trying to blend in,
get away,
609
00:23:17,522 --> 00:23:19,190
like any other
hit-and-runner.
610
00:23:19,274 --> 00:23:20,191
Objection!
611
00:23:20,275 --> 00:23:21,317
Sustained.
612
00:23:27,657 --> 00:23:29,826
You arrested Mr. Buckley?
613
00:23:29,909 --> 00:23:31,953
Ye.
614
00:23:32,037 --> 00:23:33,455
Interrogated him?
615
00:23:33,538 --> 00:23:34,581
I interviewed hi.
616
00:23:34,664 --> 00:23:36,249
Yes, me and my partner.
617
00:23:36,333 --> 00:23:37,459
He confessed?
618
00:23:37,584 --> 00:23:40,336
He voluntarily
gave us a statement, yes.
619
00:23:40,420 --> 00:23:42,297
And after he confessed?
620
00:23:42,380 --> 00:23:44,257
We processed him
through the system.
621
00:23:44,340 --> 00:23:47,010
Did you make any special
arrangements for Mr. Buckley?
622
00:23:47,135 --> 00:23:50,263
Special arrangements?
623
00:23:50,346 --> 00:23:53,308
Given the circumstances
surrounding this incident,
624
00:23:53,391 --> 00:23:55,310
were any
special precautions taken
625
00:23:55,393 --> 00:23:57,187
regarding his incarceration?
626
00:23:59,731 --> 00:24:03,777
He was placed on 24-hour
suicide watch.
627
00:24:09,574 --> 00:24:11,326
How do you think it's going?
628
00:24:11,451 --> 00:24:14,663
I think we put on
a strong case.
629
00:24:14,788 --> 00:24:16,956
You think Fallon
scored any points?
630
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,958
The fact that the police
put Davey Buckley
631
00:24:19,084 --> 00:24:22,504
on a suicide watch--
a reasonable precaution.
632
00:24:22,587 --> 00:24:25,507
I was going over
their witness list for tomorrow.
633
00:24:25,590 --> 00:24:27,634
There's a neighborhood
storefront clinic doctor
634
00:24:27,717 --> 00:24:28,676
and an expert for hire.
635
00:24:28,802 --> 00:24:31,429
Who probably spent
all of an hour
636
00:24:31,513 --> 00:24:32,972
with Davey Buckley.
637
00:24:33,056 --> 00:24:35,642
But will tell us that he had
a troubled childhood
638
00:24:35,725 --> 00:24:37,644
and he's clinically insane.
639
00:24:37,769 --> 00:24:38,686
What about
this neighborhood doctor?
640
00:24:38,770 --> 00:24:39,729
What's that about?
641
00:24:39,813 --> 00:24:40,730
Fallon's not interested
642
00:24:40,814 --> 00:24:43,900
in rehabilitating
the insanity defense.
643
00:24:44,025 --> 00:24:46,820
He's using this
as a soapbox.
644
00:24:46,903 --> 00:24:48,947
Mental health benefits
for the working poor.
645
00:24:49,030 --> 00:24:51,616
That could resonate
with a jury.
646
00:24:51,741 --> 00:24:52,867
Middle-class people
are worried
647
00:24:52,951 --> 00:24:54,411
about losing
their health insurance.
648
00:24:54,494 --> 00:24:55,829
This isn't about that.
649
00:24:55,954 --> 00:24:58,999
I'm not going to let Fallon
distract them.
650
00:25:02,836 --> 00:25:04,629
Well, according
to these records,
651
00:25:04,713 --> 00:25:06,631
Davey Buckley came
to your clinic three times.
652
00:25:06,715 --> 00:25:08,299
If that's what it says.
653
00:25:08,383 --> 00:25:11,010
In fact, he saw
a different doctor each time.
654
00:25:11,136 --> 00:25:12,804
Do you remember
what his symptoms were?
655
00:25:12,887 --> 00:25:14,472
I'd have to look
at the file.
656
00:25:14,556 --> 00:25:15,640
Depression.
657
00:25:15,724 --> 00:25:17,976
Do you remember
what you prescribed for him?
658
00:25:18,059 --> 00:25:20,061
Again, without
refreshing my memory--
659
00:25:20,186 --> 00:25:21,354
Haldol.
660
00:25:21,479 --> 00:25:22,897
If that's what it says.
661
00:25:22,981 --> 00:25:24,691
That's exactly what it says.
662
00:25:24,816 --> 00:25:27,485
How much Haldol did you
prescribe for Mr. Buckley?
663
00:25:27,569 --> 00:25:28,945
Do you remember?
664
00:25:29,070 --> 00:25:30,947
A year's worth?
A month's worth?
665
00:25:31,072 --> 00:25:33,491
It would have ben
less than tha.
666
00:25:33,575 --> 00:25:36,578
Four or five days worth..
at the mos.
667
00:25:36,703 --> 00:25:38,705
Did you ever do any follow-up
with Mr. Buckley
668
00:25:38,788 --> 00:25:39,789
to see how he was doing?
669
00:25:39,914 --> 00:25:41,374
We don't do follow-up.
670
00:25:41,458 --> 00:25:43,710
We don't have the resources.
671
00:25:43,793 --> 00:25:46,504
Are you a psychiatrist?
672
00:25:46,588 --> 00:25:48,548
No.
673
00:25:48,673 --> 00:25:49,591
Have you ever
had any training
674
00:25:49,674 --> 00:25:52,218
in psychiatry or psychology?
675
00:25:52,344 --> 00:25:55,597
Just the standad
six-week rotatio.
676
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,724
Yet you felt competent
in diagnosing Mr. Buckley
677
00:25:57,807 --> 00:25:58,933
as depressed.
678
00:25:59,059 --> 00:26:01,728
He diagnosed himself.
679
00:26:01,811 --> 00:26:04,105
If a patient tells me
he's depressed--
680
00:26:04,189 --> 00:26:05,398
you give him Haldol.
681
00:26:05,523 --> 00:26:09,653
Three or four days worth.
682
00:26:09,736 --> 00:26:11,696
Why do people
come to your clinic?
683
00:26:11,821 --> 00:26:13,573
It's in the neighborhood.
684
00:26:13,656 --> 00:26:15,450
Inexpensive.
685
00:26:15,575 --> 00:26:16,868
If people don't
have insurance--
686
00:26:16,993 --> 00:26:17,869
In other words,
they come because
687
00:26:17,952 --> 00:26:19,412
they have no other choice.
688
00:26:19,496 --> 00:26:23,750
We do the best we cn
under the circumstance.
689
00:26:23,875 --> 00:26:25,960
Did Davey Buckley
have insurance?
690
00:26:26,086 --> 00:26:27,462
No.
691
00:26:27,545 --> 00:26:28,880
He didn't.
692
00:26:28,963 --> 00:26:30,632
Do you think he would have
come to your clinic
693
00:26:30,715 --> 00:26:31,674
if he had?
694
00:26:31,758 --> 00:26:34,928
Probably not.
695
00:26:39,891 --> 00:26:42,018
Are there circumstances
under which
696
00:26:42,102 --> 00:26:44,813
you would have sent Mr. Buckley
to another facility
697
00:26:44,896 --> 00:26:46,022
for further care?
698
00:26:46,147 --> 00:26:48,650
Sure, if he exhibited
severe symptoms,
699
00:26:48,775 --> 00:26:50,652
of course we would have.
700
00:26:50,735 --> 00:26:52,570
Thank you.
701
00:26:52,654 --> 00:26:53,613
Redirect, Your Honor?
702
00:26:53,738 --> 00:26:55,156
Go ahead.
703
00:26:57,659 --> 00:27:00,036
Isn't it true, Doctor,
that there is an unspoken policy
704
00:27:00,161 --> 00:27:01,621
at your clinic--
Objection!
705
00:27:01,746 --> 00:27:03,540
Well, if there was
an understanding,
706
00:27:03,665 --> 00:27:05,125
certainly the witness
can speak to it.
707
00:27:05,250 --> 00:27:06,835
Overruled.
708
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,753
Isn't it your understandin,
Docto,
709
00:27:08,878 --> 00:27:10,088
that whenever possibl,
710
00:27:10,171 --> 00:27:11,965
you're to throw
cheap drugs at a patient?
711
00:27:12,090 --> 00:27:13,591
And not send them
to the hospital
712
00:27:13,675 --> 00:27:14,926
for further treatment?
713
00:27:15,009 --> 00:27:17,679
That is a gross
overstatement.
714
00:27:17,804 --> 00:27:20,181
Really?
715
00:27:20,265 --> 00:27:22,976
Well, if you say so.
716
00:27:26,896 --> 00:27:28,440
Mr. Fallo.
717
00:27:28,565 --> 00:27:29,899
Davey, Davey,
now, what we're gonna do
718
00:27:30,025 --> 00:27:31,901
is we're gonna
call an expert--
719
00:27:31,985 --> 00:27:33,153
Mr. Fallon, please
call your next witness.
720
00:27:33,278 --> 00:27:37,824
Yes, I'd like to call expert
witness Dr. Sheldon Farnes.
721
00:27:37,907 --> 00:27:39,784
That's not--no.
I don't agree with that.
722
00:27:39,868 --> 00:27:41,369
I don't want you t.
723
00:27:41,453 --> 00:27:42,662
Mr. Buckley,
that is not appropriate.
724
00:27:42,746 --> 00:27:43,997
I-I'm sorry, Your Honor.
725
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,915
I don't agree to this.
Not at all.
726
00:27:46,041 --> 00:27:47,500
Mr. Fallon,
please remind your client
727
00:27:47,584 --> 00:27:48,626
this is a court of law.
728
00:27:48,710 --> 00:27:50,670
He's not my lawyer
anymore.
Davey.
729
00:27:50,754 --> 00:27:52,172
No, I--I'm firing him,
Your Honor.
730
00:27:52,255 --> 00:27:54,424
Your Honor, can we recess
for a few minutes, please?
731
00:27:54,507 --> 00:27:56,092
I want to represent myself,
Your Honor.
732
00:27:56,176 --> 00:27:59,054
That is not wise,
Mr. Buckley.
733
00:27:59,137 --> 00:28:01,139
I want to change my plea, too.
734
00:28:01,222 --> 00:28:03,224
You wish to plead guilty?
735
00:28:03,349 --> 00:28:04,809
Not guilty.
736
00:28:04,934 --> 00:28:06,853
I wish to plead not guilty.
737
00:28:06,978 --> 00:28:08,772
I don't understand, what--
738
00:28:08,897 --> 00:28:09,856
No insanit.
739
00:28:09,939 --> 00:28:14,110
Uh, you know,
just not guilty.
740
00:28:21,201 --> 00:28:22,202
and this morning?
741
00:28:22,327 --> 00:28:24,371
Why Davey Buckley's
sudden change of heart?
742
00:28:24,454 --> 00:28:26,331
I checked the visitor's log
at Rikers.
743
00:28:26,414 --> 00:28:28,208
His brother Thomas
paid him a visit last night.
744
00:28:28,333 --> 00:28:30,377
I called Thomas, I asked him
what they talked about.
745
00:28:30,460 --> 00:28:32,379
He said he just
tried to cheer Davey up.
746
00:28:32,504 --> 00:28:34,381
Told him how well
things were going?
747
00:28:34,464 --> 00:28:37,258
What a great job
Fallon was doing,
748
00:28:37,384 --> 00:28:39,427
how persuasive their
expert witness would be?
749
00:28:39,552 --> 00:28:41,304
More or less.
750
00:28:41,429 --> 00:28:42,931
Maybe brother Thomas
was too convincing.
751
00:28:43,056 --> 00:28:44,516
Buckley's
starting to believe
752
00:28:44,599 --> 00:28:46,726
that Fallon's strategy
might actually work.
753
00:28:46,810 --> 00:28:48,645
I don't follow you.
754
00:28:48,728 --> 00:28:51,272
If Davey Buckley is acquitted
by reason of insanity,
755
00:28:51,398 --> 00:28:53,191
he goes to a mental
institution...
756
00:28:53,316 --> 00:28:56,194
for an indeterminate
amount of time.
757
00:28:56,277 --> 00:28:58,321
He'd rather go to prison?
758
00:28:58,405 --> 00:29:00,782
I don't know.
759
00:29:00,907 --> 00:29:01,950
Doesn't it work
to our advantage
760
00:29:02,075 --> 00:29:03,201
if he represents himself?
761
00:29:03,284 --> 00:29:04,994
That's a wild card.
762
00:29:05,078 --> 00:29:06,621
I hate to give
an appellate court
763
00:29:06,746 --> 00:29:08,415
anything to hang
a reversal on.
764
00:29:08,498 --> 00:29:11,251
Hopefully Judge Bradley
won't let it get that far.
765
00:29:15,130 --> 00:29:17,424
Mr. Buckley...
766
00:29:17,507 --> 00:29:20,385
do you understand the pitfalls
of representing yourself?
767
00:29:20,468 --> 00:29:22,721
The need for adequate
legal counsel
768
00:29:22,804 --> 00:29:24,848
in our
adversarial system?
769
00:29:24,931 --> 00:29:26,808
Yes, Your Honor.
770
00:29:26,933 --> 00:29:28,601
I have to warn you,
Mr. Buckley,
771
00:29:28,685 --> 00:29:32,272
you will forfeit your right
to self-representation
772
00:29:32,397 --> 00:29:35,567
if you engage in disruptive
or obstreperous conduct
773
00:29:35,650 --> 00:29:38,820
calculated to undermine
or delay the progress
774
00:29:38,945 --> 00:29:40,238
of this trial.
775
00:29:40,321 --> 00:29:42,115
I understand, Your Honor.
776
00:29:44,034 --> 00:29:46,161
All right, Mr. Buckley.
777
00:29:46,286 --> 00:29:47,078
You may proceed.
778
00:29:47,203 --> 00:29:49,622
Your Honor,
with all due respect--
779
00:29:49,748 --> 00:29:51,458
I know the People's position,
Mr. McCoy.
780
00:29:51,541 --> 00:29:54,127
Your Honor,
in light of this decision,
781
00:29:54,210 --> 00:29:55,962
I would like to be
relieved of my duties.
782
00:29:56,046 --> 00:29:58,006
Your application is denied.
783
00:29:58,089 --> 00:30:00,383
I need you to be standby counsel
for Mr. Buckley.
784
00:30:00,467 --> 00:30:02,802
Your Honor, I--
I will not take no
for an answer, Mr. Fallon.
785
00:30:02,927 --> 00:30:04,012
Mr. Buckley,
786
00:30:04,137 --> 00:30:06,598
when will you be ready
to call your first witness?
787
00:30:06,681 --> 00:30:08,767
I only have one witness,
Your Honor.
788
00:30:08,850 --> 00:30:09,976
Myself.
789
00:30:10,060 --> 00:30:12,854
How do you propose
to testify
790
00:30:12,979 --> 00:30:14,689
and do direct examination?
791
00:30:14,773 --> 00:30:18,360
Well, I thought I could
write out the questions
792
00:30:18,485 --> 00:30:20,612
and, uh, Mr. Fallon
could ask them
793
00:30:20,737 --> 00:30:21,654
so I could answer.
794
00:30:21,780 --> 00:30:23,031
Your Honor,
795
00:30:23,114 --> 00:30:25,367
this idea is just
further evidence
796
00:30:25,492 --> 00:30:28,453
that Mr. Buckley
shouldn't represent himself.
797
00:30:28,536 --> 00:30:30,830
Well, I think it's a very
practical idea, Mr. Fallon.
798
00:30:30,955 --> 00:30:33,500
Court will
reconvene tomorrow.
799
00:30:38,672 --> 00:30:40,924
Did you really intend
to kill yourself?
800
00:30:41,049 --> 00:30:43,426
Ye.
801
00:30:45,637 --> 00:30:48,348
Didn't you think
other people would be hurt?
802
00:30:48,431 --> 00:30:54,354
I feel terrible
about that.
803
00:30:54,479 --> 00:30:56,690
I mean, I honestly
thought that the train
804
00:30:56,815 --> 00:30:58,983
would demolish the SUV
805
00:30:59,067 --> 00:31:00,860
and just keep goin.
806
00:31:00,944 --> 00:31:02,737
The train ws
so much bigge.
807
00:31:02,862 --> 00:31:03,989
It was so much heavie.
808
00:31:04,072 --> 00:31:06,366
And, uh...
809
00:31:06,449 --> 00:31:08,660
I thought it would
just smash the car.
810
00:31:08,743 --> 00:31:13,540
Or it would push it aside
like a bulldozer.
811
00:31:15,291 --> 00:31:17,377
What was your state of mind
that morning?
812
00:31:17,502 --> 00:31:20,755
I just wanted to put mysef
out of my miser.
813
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,467
That's all I was
thinking about.
814
00:31:31,349 --> 00:31:33,476
Then why didn't you?
815
00:31:36,229 --> 00:31:40,692
I saw the train coming,
and, uh...
816
00:31:40,817 --> 00:31:43,153
I saw my little girl's face.
817
00:31:43,236 --> 00:31:47,949
And I just--
I couldn't do it.
818
00:31:48,033 --> 00:31:51,286
I tried to drive the car
off the tracks, I swear to God,
819
00:31:51,369 --> 00:31:53,246
and it was stuck.
820
00:31:56,249 --> 00:31:59,586
I didn't mean
to hurt anyone.
821
00:31:59,669 --> 00:32:02,881
I didn't mean for anyone
to get hurt.
822
00:32:10,597 --> 00:32:12,432
I'm concerned
he's coming across
823
00:32:12,557 --> 00:32:14,559
as an effective,
sympathetic defendant.
824
00:32:14,642 --> 00:32:16,936
I was going over
Fallon's witness list,
825
00:32:17,020 --> 00:32:19,230
the ones he would have called
if Buckley hadn't fired him.
826
00:32:19,314 --> 00:32:20,815
His brothers and sisters
are on the list.
827
00:32:20,940 --> 00:32:22,108
More sibling testimony
828
00:32:22,233 --> 00:32:23,818
about the trials
and tribulations
829
00:32:23,902 --> 00:32:24,903
of Davey Buckley.
830
00:32:24,986 --> 00:32:26,071
That's the thing.
831
00:32:26,154 --> 00:32:27,447
There's another brother--
Jimmy.
832
00:32:27,572 --> 00:32:29,783
He's the oldest.
He owns a construction company.
833
00:32:29,866 --> 00:32:31,493
Davey used to work for him.
834
00:32:31,576 --> 00:32:34,120
Jimmy Buckley wasn't
on Fallon's witness list.
835
00:32:34,245 --> 00:32:35,789
All the others were,
but not him.
836
00:32:35,914 --> 00:32:36,956
I'm due back for cross.
837
00:32:37,082 --> 00:32:39,042
See what he has to say.
838
00:32:40,752 --> 00:32:43,713
You didn't think anyone else
would get hurt?
839
00:32:43,797 --> 00:32:45,507
No.
840
00:32:45,632 --> 00:32:50,720
And you didn't want to leave
your daughter fatherless?
841
00:32:50,804 --> 00:32:52,681
I couldn't.
842
00:32:52,806 --> 00:32:54,599
Commendable.
843
00:32:55,934 --> 00:32:58,478
What about all the other
fatherless daughters and sons
844
00:32:58,603 --> 00:33:00,772
you created through your
reckless disregard
845
00:33:00,855 --> 00:33:02,148
for other people's lives?
846
00:33:02,273 --> 00:33:03,441
Objection.
847
00:33:03,525 --> 00:33:05,860
If I'm allowed to object.
848
00:33:05,944 --> 00:33:07,696
You are.
Sustained.
849
00:33:07,821 --> 00:33:09,572
If you really wanted
to kill yourself,
850
00:33:09,656 --> 00:33:11,157
why didn't you use
a gun, Mr. Buckley?
851
00:33:11,241 --> 00:33:12,450
Or a knife?
852
00:33:12,534 --> 00:33:13,993
Take sleeping pills?
853
00:33:14,077 --> 00:33:15,829
Throw yourself
out the window?
854
00:33:15,912 --> 00:33:18,832
I wanted to be sure.
855
00:33:18,957 --> 00:33:20,500
I didn't want to survive
856
00:33:20,583 --> 00:33:22,919
and become a burden
on my family.
857
00:33:23,002 --> 00:33:27,215
And why didn't you just
walk onto the tracks?
858
00:33:27,340 --> 00:33:30,343
Throw yourself
in front of the train?
859
00:33:32,178 --> 00:33:34,055
I don't know.
860
00:33:34,180 --> 00:33:36,099
What was the real reason
861
00:33:36,224 --> 00:33:38,226
you decided
to derail that train?
862
00:33:38,309 --> 00:33:39,728
I didn't want
to derail the train.
863
00:33:39,853 --> 00:33:41,813
I wanted to kill myself.
864
00:33:41,896 --> 00:33:44,232
Wasn't it to get your
estranged wife's attention?
865
00:33:44,316 --> 00:33:46,276
No, that wasn't the reason.
866
00:33:46,359 --> 00:33:51,031
She's been here for you
everyday, hasn't she?
867
00:33:51,156 --> 00:33:53,700
Yes, she has.
868
00:33:53,783 --> 00:33:57,662
You succeeded in getting
her attention.
869
00:33:57,746 --> 00:34:00,248
And all it cost was 12 lives
and hundreds of injuries.
870
00:34:00,373 --> 00:34:02,083
Objection.
Sustained.
871
00:34:02,208 --> 00:34:05,128
Do you think you're
the victim here, Mr. Buckley?
872
00:34:05,253 --> 00:34:07,714
No.
873
00:34:07,839 --> 00:34:11,634
Were you hoping
to gain her sympathy?
874
00:34:11,718 --> 00:34:14,763
No.
875
00:34:14,888 --> 00:34:16,222
Are you hoping
that she'll take you back,
876
00:34:16,306 --> 00:34:17,432
even if you're in jail?
877
00:34:17,557 --> 00:34:20,101
Your Honor, Mr. McCoy
is busily painting a picture
878
00:34:20,185 --> 00:34:21,770
that is entirely
speculative.
879
00:34:21,853 --> 00:34:23,188
Sustained.
880
00:34:23,271 --> 00:34:25,607
Nothing further, Your Honor.
881
00:34:25,690 --> 00:34:27,067
Mr. Buckley..
882
00:34:27,192 --> 00:34:28,985
you may step dow.
883
00:34:31,112 --> 00:34:33,239
Does the defense wih
to call any other witnesse,
884
00:34:33,365 --> 00:34:36,284
Mr. Fallo?
885
00:34:36,409 --> 00:34:39,120
Your Honor...
the defense rests.
886
00:34:39,204 --> 00:34:40,872
Mr. McCoy.
887
00:34:40,955 --> 00:34:42,916
The People have a witness
to call in rebuttal, Your Honor.
888
00:34:43,041 --> 00:34:44,209
James Buckley.
889
00:34:44,292 --> 00:34:45,668
All righ,
we'll reces
890
00:34:45,752 --> 00:34:47,921
until first thig
tomorrow mornin.
891
00:34:50,632 --> 00:34:52,801
Davey's proe
to melanchol.
892
00:34:52,926 --> 00:34:54,552
Always has been.
893
00:34:54,677 --> 00:34:56,846
I mean, he's sweet...funny.
894
00:34:56,930 --> 00:34:58,598
People like him--
when he's up.
895
00:34:58,681 --> 00:35:01,643
When he's down,
when he's drinking,
896
00:35:01,768 --> 00:35:04,521
he's dark
as dark could be.
897
00:35:04,646 --> 00:35:06,189
He has a drinking problem?
898
00:35:06,272 --> 00:35:07,983
Since he was a kid, yeah.
899
00:35:08,108 --> 00:35:10,610
He was sober at the time
of the train wreck.
900
00:35:10,694 --> 00:35:12,737
On and off the wagn
his whole lif.
901
00:35:12,821 --> 00:35:16,741
Growing up,
did you and your family
902
00:35:16,825 --> 00:35:19,494
think of your brother
as being mentally unstable?
903
00:35:19,577 --> 00:35:22,622
More like hard luck.
904
00:35:22,706 --> 00:35:23,623
"Davey's in trouble again."
905
00:35:23,707 --> 00:35:25,417
"Davey got himself
in another scrape."
906
00:35:25,500 --> 00:35:27,961
"Davey can't cath
a break, poor kid"
907
00:35:28,044 --> 00:35:29,587
What kind of trouble?
908
00:35:29,671 --> 00:35:31,005
Ah, trouble in school,
trouble at work.
909
00:35:31,131 --> 00:35:33,049
Couldn't pay attention.
Couldn't hold a job.
910
00:35:33,174 --> 00:35:35,802
You say he couldn't hold a job,
but he worked for you.
911
00:35:35,885 --> 00:35:38,930
He had a wife.
A new baby.
912
00:35:39,014 --> 00:35:41,057
I told hi,
"This is your last chanc.
913
00:35:41,141 --> 00:35:43,810
You have to promise me"
914
00:35:43,893 --> 00:35:45,645
And he did.
915
00:35:45,729 --> 00:35:47,981
How long did he work for you?
916
00:35:48,106 --> 00:35:49,691
Nine months, maybe.
917
00:35:49,774 --> 00:35:52,235
Started drinking again
on the job.
918
00:35:52,318 --> 00:35:53,570
He was a hazard.
919
00:35:53,653 --> 00:35:55,280
To himself and other.
920
00:35:55,363 --> 00:35:56,823
So you fired him.
921
00:35:56,948 --> 00:35:58,533
Had t.
922
00:35:58,658 --> 00:35:59,784
He made me a promise.
923
00:35:59,909 --> 00:36:01,828
I had to let him know
I was serious this time.
924
00:36:01,953 --> 00:36:06,166
Did you give him
any further assistance?
925
00:36:06,249 --> 00:36:07,667
I payed for rehab.
926
00:36:07,751 --> 00:36:10,086
Again.
30,000 a pop.
927
00:36:10,170 --> 00:36:12,672
Did you ever encourage him
928
00:36:12,756 --> 00:36:15,633
to get any other kind
of counseling beyond rehab?
929
00:36:15,717 --> 00:36:17,344
Many times over the years.
930
00:36:17,469 --> 00:36:18,845
Told him I'd foot the bill
for that too,
931
00:36:18,970 --> 00:36:19,888
no matter what.
932
00:36:20,013 --> 00:36:21,347
He always waved me off.
933
00:36:21,431 --> 00:36:23,850
Said he didn't need it.
934
00:36:23,933 --> 00:36:25,727
Did he know he had gone
to a clinic,
935
00:36:25,810 --> 00:36:27,020
seeking help for depression?
936
00:36:27,103 --> 00:36:28,897
No, I didn't know.
937
00:36:29,022 --> 00:36:29,981
Why not?
938
00:36:30,065 --> 00:36:32,901
Why wouldn't he want
you to know about that?
939
00:36:33,026 --> 00:36:36,404
Ashamed, maybe.
940
00:36:36,488 --> 00:36:37,822
That's how it is
where we come from.
941
00:36:37,906 --> 00:36:40,367
It's a shameful thing
to need help with...
942
00:36:40,450 --> 00:36:43,870
you know, your emotions.
943
00:36:45,580 --> 00:36:47,707
Your other
brothers and sisters
944
00:36:47,791 --> 00:36:50,877
were scheduled to testify
for the defense.
945
00:36:51,002 --> 00:36:53,296
Well, they still got
a soft spot for him.
946
00:36:55,173 --> 00:36:56,216
But not you.
947
00:36:56,299 --> 00:36:58,218
I told Mr. Fallon.
948
00:36:58,343 --> 00:37:00,595
I couldn'.
949
00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:01,763
I couldn't stand p
950
00:37:01,846 --> 00:37:03,640
and swear.
951
00:37:03,723 --> 00:37:05,558
Not in good conscience.
952
00:37:24,828 --> 00:37:26,996
Did you think
I was crazy, Jimmy?
953
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,082
You heard me.
I thought you had troubles.
954
00:37:29,165 --> 00:37:29,958
We all did.
955
00:37:30,083 --> 00:37:34,087
Did I ever, uh...
hear voices?
956
00:37:34,212 --> 00:37:36,089
Hallucinate?
957
00:37:36,172 --> 00:37:38,466
Not that I know, no.
958
00:37:38,591 --> 00:37:40,677
Did I ever try
to commit suicide?
959
00:37:40,802 --> 00:37:42,971
Again, not that I know.
960
00:37:43,054 --> 00:37:45,724
Did I ever threaten
to kill myself?
961
00:37:45,807 --> 00:37:47,892
Not until your marriage
went sour.
962
00:37:47,976 --> 00:37:49,769
Exactly.
963
00:37:49,853 --> 00:37:53,773
So...when I made
those threats,
964
00:37:53,857 --> 00:37:55,734
I mean, didn't you think that
that was a sign
965
00:37:55,817 --> 00:37:56,818
that something was wrong?
966
00:37:56,901 --> 00:37:59,195
I didn't
take them seriously.
967
00:37:59,279 --> 00:38:01,990
You didn't?
Why not?
968
00:38:02,115 --> 00:38:05,285
You're all talk, Davey.
969
00:38:05,368 --> 00:38:07,162
You're a daydreame.
970
00:38:07,287 --> 00:38:08,580
Have ben
your whole lif.
971
00:38:08,705 --> 00:38:11,291
So you didn't think
I would go through with it.
972
00:38:11,374 --> 00:38:15,920
And you didn't, did you?
973
00:38:18,423 --> 00:38:20,258
Did you wish that I had?
974
00:38:23,511 --> 00:38:24,971
Come on.
975
00:38:28,516 --> 00:38:30,143
Did you?
976
00:38:30,268 --> 00:38:32,145
No.
977
00:38:32,270 --> 00:38:34,189
I wouldn't.
978
00:38:34,314 --> 00:38:35,899
Never.
979
00:38:40,362 --> 00:38:42,822
Wh-why not?
980
00:38:42,906 --> 00:38:44,199
I mean, that
would be it, right?
981
00:38:44,282 --> 00:38:46,201
That would be the end of it.
982
00:38:46,326 --> 00:38:48,286
No more.
983
00:38:48,370 --> 00:38:50,997
No more Davey to worry about.
984
00:38:55,877 --> 00:38:58,171
You gave up on me, Jimmy.
985
00:38:58,296 --> 00:39:00,340
That's right.
I did.
986
00:39:00,465 --> 00:39:01,966
You're right.
987
00:39:08,681 --> 00:39:11,601
You knew I needed help.
988
00:39:11,726 --> 00:39:13,728
When Maureen threw me out,
who did I call?
989
00:39:13,853 --> 00:39:15,105
I called you.
990
00:39:15,230 --> 00:39:16,189
Yes, you did.
991
00:39:16,272 --> 00:39:17,732
I called you first.
992
00:39:17,816 --> 00:39:19,526
And what'd I say?
993
00:39:19,609 --> 00:39:21,569
You said...
994
00:39:21,695 --> 00:39:24,364
You were
in desperate straits.
995
00:39:24,489 --> 00:39:28,535
I needed help.
996
00:39:28,660 --> 00:39:30,370
What'd you say?
997
00:39:30,495 --> 00:39:33,206
I said no.
998
00:39:33,289 --> 00:39:35,959
I'm done.
Enough's enough.
999
00:39:36,042 --> 00:39:39,087
Yeah.
1000
00:39:39,212 --> 00:39:40,005
"Enough's enough."
1001
00:39:40,130 --> 00:39:41,548
I have my own family
to take care of!
1002
00:39:41,631 --> 00:39:44,676
I'm your family, too, Jimmy!
1003
00:39:47,387 --> 00:39:49,556
No.
1004
00:39:49,681 --> 00:39:54,227
You're not.
1005
00:39:54,352 --> 00:39:57,313
Not anymore.
1006
00:40:10,201 --> 00:40:11,953
On the first count
of the indictment,
1007
00:40:12,078 --> 00:40:14,289
Murder in the Second Degree,
how do you find?
1008
00:40:14,372 --> 00:40:17,292
We find the defendant guilty.
1009
00:40:17,417 --> 00:40:19,461
On the second cout
of the indictmen,
1010
00:40:19,586 --> 00:40:21,046
Murder n
the Second Degre,
1011
00:40:21,129 --> 00:40:22,380
how do you fin?
1012
00:40:22,464 --> 00:40:24,299
We find
the defendant guilty.
1013
00:40:24,424 --> 00:40:26,134
On the third cout
of the indictmen,
1014
00:40:26,217 --> 00:40:28,553
Murder in the Second Degre,
how do you fin?
1015
00:40:28,636 --> 00:40:31,139
We find
the defendant guilty.
1016
00:40:31,264 --> 00:40:32,599
On the fourth cout
of the indictmen,
1017
00:40:32,682 --> 00:40:34,267
Murder in the Second Degree...
1018
00:40:34,351 --> 00:40:37,020
You could still recommend
that Judge Bradley
1019
00:40:37,103 --> 00:40:38,480
sentence him concurrently.
1020
00:40:38,605 --> 00:40:40,398
12 life sentences.
That's what he deserves.
1021
00:40:40,482 --> 00:40:41,316
I don't disagree.
1022
00:40:41,399 --> 00:40:43,652
You agree?
1023
00:40:43,735 --> 00:40:45,403
He's criminally responsible?
1024
00:40:47,781 --> 00:40:50,492
He did a terrible thing.
1025
00:40:50,575 --> 00:40:52,952
But in a way, he was right.
1026
00:40:53,036 --> 00:40:55,997
It could have been averted.
1027
00:40:56,122 --> 00:40:59,668
Billions for prisons,
no health care.
1028
00:40:59,793 --> 00:41:01,461
I don't make social policy.
1029
00:41:01,586 --> 00:41:03,296
No.
1030
00:41:03,421 --> 00:41:07,092
You just have to clean up
after those who do.
1031
00:41:07,175 --> 00:41:10,136
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