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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,084 --> 00:00:03,378 the people are represented by two separate 2 00:00:03,503 --> 00:00:05,463 yet equally important groups-- 3 00:00:05,547 --> 00:00:07,006 the police, who investigate crime, 4 00:00:07,090 --> 00:00:09,968 and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:10,051 --> 00:00:11,678 These are their stories. 6 00:00:13,263 --> 00:00:14,472 Last year was a total aberration. 7 00:00:14,514 --> 00:00:18,476 Last year was the beginning of a dynasty with a capital "D." 8 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,562 Without Pedro, no way. 9 00:00:20,687 --> 00:00:22,188 That's right-- who's your daddy? 10 00:00:22,272 --> 00:00:24,357 At least it's not Steinbrenner. 11 00:00:24,482 --> 00:00:25,608 Big Unit, baby. 12 00:00:25,692 --> 00:00:28,111 World Championship back where it belongs--the Bronx! 13 00:00:28,194 --> 00:00:30,363 Pedro is a Met. 14 00:00:30,488 --> 00:00:31,573 Good luck. 15 00:00:31,656 --> 00:00:32,991 Guy's been in there half an hour. 16 00:00:33,074 --> 00:00:35,160 Hey, fella! 17 00:00:35,243 --> 00:00:36,411 Everything all right? 18 00:00:36,536 --> 00:00:38,038 Think he died in there. 19 00:00:38,121 --> 00:00:39,414 It smells like he did. 20 00:00:39,539 --> 00:00:42,542 Come on! 21 00:00:52,552 --> 00:00:55,180 Morning rus, 8:22 to Grand Centra. 22 00:00:55,263 --> 00:00:57,057 Five D.O.A.s and counting. 23 00:00:57,140 --> 00:00:58,391 What about the driver? 24 00:00:58,475 --> 00:00:59,392 Dogs don't think anybody's in there. 25 00:00:59,476 --> 00:01:01,061 We'll know for sure once we open her up. 26 00:01:01,186 --> 00:01:02,228 Witnesses? 27 00:01:02,312 --> 00:01:03,980 Two so far. Railroad guys. 28 00:01:04,064 --> 00:01:05,190 Don't know how much they could have seen, 29 00:01:05,273 --> 00:01:06,816 fixing a switch 100 yards away. 30 00:01:06,900 --> 00:01:08,401 We'll need to talk to them anyway. 31 00:01:08,485 --> 00:01:09,235 Casey Jones, too. 32 00:01:09,361 --> 00:01:10,570 Casey Jones? 33 00:01:10,695 --> 00:01:12,155 The driver of the train. That what-do-you-call-it. 34 00:01:12,238 --> 00:01:13,573 The engineer. 35 00:01:13,698 --> 00:01:14,574 This isn't some crossing 36 00:01:14,658 --> 00:01:16,576 in the middle of a cornfield in Kansas. 37 00:01:16,659 --> 00:01:18,036 How the hell did this thing get on the tracks? 38 00:01:18,119 --> 00:01:19,579 There's a busted guard gate up the service road. 39 00:01:19,704 --> 00:01:20,914 It looks like he crashed through there. 40 00:01:20,997 --> 00:01:22,791 Any security video? Supposed to be. 41 00:01:22,916 --> 00:01:24,751 I'll call the monitoring center and get it cued up. 42 00:01:24,876 --> 00:01:26,461 From every camera in the yard, 43 00:01:26,586 --> 00:01:28,505 and we're gonna need I.D. on this vehicle. 44 00:01:28,630 --> 00:01:30,006 We ran the plates already--stolen. 45 00:01:30,090 --> 00:01:32,217 Off a car in Van Cortland Park three days ago. 46 00:01:32,300 --> 00:01:34,135 Soon as C.S.U. finds the VIN-- 47 00:01:34,260 --> 00:01:36,096 Rest of the passengers, bumps and bruises? 48 00:01:36,179 --> 00:01:38,264 We need everybody I.D.'d, everybody interviewed. 49 00:01:38,390 --> 00:01:40,141 There's a public school close by. 50 00:01:40,266 --> 00:01:41,351 We're gonna bus 'em over there, 51 00:01:41,393 --> 00:01:43,853 follow up at the hospitals with the serious injured later. 52 00:01:43,937 --> 00:01:45,772 All right, thanks a lot, Sarge. Good work. 53 00:01:48,066 --> 00:01:50,652 Stolen plates, busted gate, restricted area-- 54 00:01:50,735 --> 00:01:51,986 this is no accident. 55 00:01:52,070 --> 00:01:53,488 He'd have to know about the gates, the schedule, 56 00:01:53,613 --> 00:01:54,614 the crossing. 57 00:01:54,739 --> 00:01:56,074 A disgruntled employee? 58 00:01:56,157 --> 00:01:57,117 Been known to happen. 59 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:58,159 Mayhem in the workplace. 60 00:01:58,284 --> 00:02:00,078 That's one possibility. 61 00:02:00,161 --> 00:02:01,162 I have another. 62 00:02:01,287 --> 00:02:02,789 Terrorists. 63 00:02:02,872 --> 00:02:04,124 That's a cheery thought. 64 00:02:04,249 --> 00:02:05,792 I'm full of them, pal. 65 00:02:54,799 --> 00:02:57,135 . 66 00:02:57,218 --> 00:02:58,303 I couldn't believe my eyes. 67 00:02:58,386 --> 00:02:59,637 No signals, no alarms? 68 00:02:59,721 --> 00:03:01,348 No warning whatsoever. 69 00:03:01,431 --> 00:03:03,641 Just that damned SUV looming up at me. 70 00:03:03,725 --> 00:03:05,685 I slammed on the brakes, but-- 71 00:03:05,769 --> 00:03:08,354 felt like we were going over a cliff. 72 00:03:08,438 --> 00:03:09,856 Slid right into him. 73 00:03:09,981 --> 00:03:11,358 You know, I maybe heard something 74 00:03:11,483 --> 00:03:12,359 coming over the radio 75 00:03:12,442 --> 00:03:14,152 just as we were plowing into the guy. 76 00:03:14,235 --> 00:03:15,278 A warning? 77 00:03:15,362 --> 00:03:16,905 Could have been. 78 00:03:17,030 --> 00:03:18,907 Tell you the truth, between the horn and the brakes 79 00:03:19,032 --> 00:03:20,367 and the sound of the crash, 80 00:03:20,492 --> 00:03:22,202 my ears are still ringing. 81 00:03:23,370 --> 00:03:24,412 You get anything? 82 00:03:24,454 --> 00:03:26,414 No, they were clear down at the other end of the yard. 83 00:03:26,539 --> 00:03:27,374 They didn't even see the crash. 84 00:03:27,499 --> 00:03:28,541 Any trace of the driver? 85 00:03:28,625 --> 00:03:32,170 Dogs were right--whoever was in there is long gone. 86 00:03:32,253 --> 00:03:33,630 Seven dead her, 87 00:03:33,713 --> 00:03:35,215 half a dozen on their wy to the O.R, 88 00:03:35,298 --> 00:03:36,299 could go either way. 89 00:03:36,383 --> 00:03:37,425 Did they get everyone off the train? 90 00:03:37,509 --> 00:03:39,427 So they tell me. All right, thanks. 91 00:03:39,552 --> 00:03:41,304 What do we have? Seven so far. 92 00:03:41,388 --> 00:03:43,598 It could possibly go as high as 13. 93 00:03:43,723 --> 00:03:45,058 What about the driver? 94 00:03:45,183 --> 00:03:46,559 No trace of the bastard. 95 00:03:46,685 --> 00:03:48,937 Are the feds working the terrorist angle? 96 00:03:49,062 --> 00:03:50,271 The Joint Terrorism Task Force 97 00:03:50,355 --> 00:03:53,358 is checking to see if today is some kind of anniversary 98 00:03:53,483 --> 00:03:55,110 that might have triggered an attack. 99 00:03:55,235 --> 00:03:58,238 Grand Central, Penn Station, and Metro-North 100 00:03:58,321 --> 00:03:59,447 are all on Red Alert. 101 00:03:59,572 --> 00:04:00,532 Anybody take credit for it yet? 102 00:04:00,615 --> 00:04:01,866 Not yet. 103 00:04:01,950 --> 00:04:04,077 Well, if he is a terrorist, he's no suicide martyr. 104 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:04,911 Not all of them are. 105 00:04:04,953 --> 00:04:06,121 The guys who hit the trains in Madrid 106 00:04:06,246 --> 00:04:08,289 hid their bombs in suitcases and gym bags 107 00:04:08,373 --> 00:04:09,499 and got the hell out of there. 108 00:04:09,624 --> 00:04:10,542 Like this guy. 109 00:04:10,625 --> 00:04:11,668 I gotta tell you, 110 00:04:11,751 --> 00:04:12,585 this doesn't feel like a terrorist. 111 00:04:12,669 --> 00:04:13,920 Feels like a nut job to me. 112 00:04:14,045 --> 00:04:16,089 Well, let's hope you're right. 113 00:04:22,429 --> 00:04:23,763 Oh, man. 114 00:04:23,847 --> 00:04:25,306 He just blew right on through there. 115 00:04:25,432 --> 00:04:28,727 Yeah, but the question is, who was minding the store? 116 00:04:28,810 --> 00:04:30,979 When the car crashed through the gate, 117 00:04:31,104 --> 00:04:32,814 why didn't it set off an alarm? 118 00:04:32,939 --> 00:04:35,650 It did, but by the time we radioed the train-- 119 00:04:35,734 --> 00:04:36,651 Why the slow response? 120 00:04:36,735 --> 00:04:39,321 Happened at shift change. 8:00 a.m. 121 00:04:39,404 --> 00:04:40,322 Yeah, sure. 122 00:04:40,363 --> 00:04:42,532 Coffee and Danish, somebody reading a newspaper, 123 00:04:42,615 --> 00:04:43,992 and nobody's paying attention to the monitors. 124 00:04:44,075 --> 00:04:46,619 Guy knew what he was doing. 125 00:04:46,703 --> 00:04:48,204 Pull it up a little closer. 126 00:04:49,873 --> 00:04:51,416 Well, somebody's in there, 127 00:04:51,499 --> 00:04:54,794 but I can't tell if he's black or white, young or old. 128 00:04:54,878 --> 00:04:56,671 Male or female, for that matter. 129 00:04:56,755 --> 00:04:58,673 Camera set to catch kids coming over the gate. 130 00:04:58,798 --> 00:05:02,052 Trespassers... not cars crashing through it. 131 00:05:02,177 --> 00:05:05,138 Well, he crashed the gate 8:00 straight up, right? 132 00:05:05,221 --> 00:05:07,640 Collision with the train occurred 8:03. 133 00:05:07,766 --> 00:05:09,768 It's cutting it pretty close. 134 00:05:09,851 --> 00:05:10,852 What time was the sight secured? 135 00:05:10,977 --> 00:05:12,103 8:20. 136 00:05:12,187 --> 00:05:13,813 So he had time to get away. 137 00:05:13,938 --> 00:05:15,857 How many ways out of the train yard? 138 00:05:15,982 --> 00:05:18,276 A couple of pedestrian gates, but they were locked. 139 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,028 Security cameras? We've already looked at that footage. 140 00:05:20,153 --> 00:05:22,238 Nobody in or out of those gates 141 00:05:22,364 --> 00:05:23,239 before or after. 142 00:05:23,281 --> 00:05:24,783 Maybe he walked out the way he came in, 143 00:05:24,866 --> 00:05:27,619 right through there. 144 00:05:27,702 --> 00:05:29,162 He might still be in with the passengers, 145 00:05:29,287 --> 00:05:30,330 hiding in plain sight. 146 00:05:30,455 --> 00:05:31,706 Parks the SUV on the tracks, 147 00:05:31,831 --> 00:05:33,500 sticks around to see what happens. 148 00:05:33,583 --> 00:05:34,834 All that chaos, who's gonna notice? 149 00:05:34,918 --> 00:05:37,170 Yeah, then they seal off the scene, 150 00:05:37,253 --> 00:05:39,881 he's stuck, gets processed with everyone else. 151 00:05:39,964 --> 00:05:41,800 We'll go back, see if they come across anybody 152 00:05:41,883 --> 00:05:43,510 that doesn't seem to fit. 153 00:05:46,763 --> 00:05:49,182 We processed 100, roughly. 154 00:05:49,307 --> 00:05:50,725 Another 120 or so to go. 155 00:05:50,850 --> 00:05:52,769 What about the ones who went to hospitals? 156 00:05:52,852 --> 00:05:54,562 We'll follow up on them in a day or two. 157 00:05:54,646 --> 00:05:56,690 Do you get aided reports on everybody? 158 00:05:56,773 --> 00:05:59,567 Looking at I.D.s, addresses, 159 00:05:59,651 --> 00:06:00,860 dates of birth, where people got on, 160 00:06:00,944 --> 00:06:01,945 where they were headed. 161 00:06:02,028 --> 00:06:03,196 Tickets? 162 00:06:03,321 --> 00:06:04,364 If they got 'em. 163 00:06:04,447 --> 00:06:05,365 A lot of people don't. 164 00:06:05,448 --> 00:06:07,200 It's a commuter line. 165 00:06:07,283 --> 00:06:08,201 You ever ride it? 166 00:06:08,284 --> 00:06:09,494 Perish the thought. 167 00:06:09,577 --> 00:06:12,205 Yeah, well, it's pretty casual as far as tickets go. 168 00:06:12,330 --> 00:06:13,873 A lot of monthly passes. 169 00:06:13,999 --> 00:06:15,834 Is there anyone we should re-interview? 170 00:06:15,917 --> 00:06:17,877 Nobody on the train saw nothing. 171 00:06:17,961 --> 00:06:19,504 I mean, one minute they're cruising along 172 00:06:19,587 --> 00:06:21,381 like every other day, and the next-- 173 00:06:21,464 --> 00:06:23,508 We were just wondering if one of the passengers 174 00:06:23,591 --> 00:06:25,301 wasn't a passenger at all. 175 00:06:26,761 --> 00:06:28,763 You mean the driver of the SUV? 176 00:06:28,888 --> 00:06:30,473 Anybody strikes us as wrong, 177 00:06:30,557 --> 00:06:31,558 we flag 'em. 178 00:06:31,683 --> 00:06:32,726 Definitely. 179 00:06:32,851 --> 00:06:35,103 What's the latest tally? 180 00:06:35,228 --> 00:06:38,314 Last I heard, it was up to nine. 181 00:06:42,402 --> 00:06:43,445 Fontana. 182 00:06:43,528 --> 00:06:46,531 Well, that's great, thanks. 183 00:06:46,614 --> 00:06:48,116 We got the VIN number. 184 00:06:48,241 --> 00:06:49,909 What about prints, DNA? 185 00:06:50,035 --> 00:06:51,411 Come on, you don't want the whole thing 186 00:06:51,536 --> 00:06:53,246 handed to you on a silver platter, do you? 187 00:06:53,371 --> 00:06:57,292 Why not, a ground ball every once in a while? 188 00:06:57,417 --> 00:06:59,210 The SUV belongs to a guy named Lenny Thorne. 189 00:06:59,294 --> 00:07:00,587 Why does that name sound ring a bell? 190 00:07:00,712 --> 00:07:02,714 Date raper, hung jury, mistrial. 191 00:07:02,797 --> 00:07:04,758 Right, the D.A.'s gonna retry the case. 192 00:07:04,883 --> 00:07:07,093 He even held a press conference to that effect. 193 00:07:07,218 --> 00:07:08,428 Guess wo the A.D.A. wa. 194 00:07:08,511 --> 00:07:09,637 Mark Nesoff. 195 00:07:09,763 --> 00:07:10,805 Should I know that name? 196 00:07:10,930 --> 00:07:11,806 Doesn't matter. 197 00:07:11,890 --> 00:07:13,433 Guess where he was yesterday morning. 198 00:07:13,558 --> 00:07:14,601 On the train? 199 00:07:14,684 --> 00:07:16,102 On his way into the office. 200 00:07:16,186 --> 00:07:17,270 Nesoff lives in Chappaqua. 201 00:07:17,395 --> 00:07:19,314 He takes the same train into Grand Central 202 00:07:19,439 --> 00:07:20,523 every day of the week. 203 00:07:20,565 --> 00:07:22,275 It wouldn't be hard for Thorne to figure that out. 204 00:07:22,359 --> 00:07:24,778 What do we know about this Mr. Thorne? 205 00:07:24,861 --> 00:07:27,364 Systems analyst. He's a college-educated creep. 206 00:07:27,447 --> 00:07:28,448 There was an earlier case. 207 00:07:28,573 --> 00:07:30,325 The woman dropped the criminal charges. 208 00:07:30,450 --> 00:07:33,161 She took a big civil settlement. His family paid her off. 209 00:07:33,244 --> 00:07:34,954 I'm not sure it's enough for a warrant. 210 00:07:35,038 --> 00:07:36,122 Well, it should be. 211 00:07:36,206 --> 00:07:38,291 Well, this is a terrorist investigation, right? 212 00:07:38,375 --> 00:07:39,292 As of now. 213 00:07:39,376 --> 00:07:40,543 Patriot Act. 214 00:07:40,627 --> 00:07:43,630 We got more than enough to get a warrant under that. 215 00:07:43,755 --> 00:07:47,258 I assume he's armed and dangerous. 216 00:07:49,803 --> 00:07:51,429 Polic! Freez! 217 00:07:51,513 --> 00:07:53,598 Get your hands u! Let me see your hand! 218 00:07:53,682 --> 00:07:55,183 Bathroom's clear. 219 00:07:55,308 --> 00:07:57,268 Hands on your head! On your knees. 220 00:07:57,352 --> 00:07:58,520 Shut your mouth and get on your knees! 221 00:07:58,603 --> 00:07:59,813 What is this about? Shut up! 222 00:07:59,938 --> 00:08:00,855 You heard the man-- shut up! 223 00:08:00,939 --> 00:08:03,024 Detectives, I found this in the bedroom closet. 224 00:08:03,149 --> 00:08:05,360 If it isn't mine. I have no idea how it got there. 225 00:08:05,443 --> 00:08:08,071 Man, don't even go there. We're not in the mood. 226 00:08:10,824 --> 00:08:11,992 You don't kno? Nope, I don't know. 227 00:08:12,117 --> 00:08:14,244 But it's your car. Must have been stolen. 228 00:08:14,327 --> 00:08:15,995 Did you report it? Didn't know it was gone 229 00:08:16,079 --> 00:08:18,164 'til y'all come crashing in my apartment. 230 00:08:18,289 --> 00:08:19,332 When was the last time you saw it? 231 00:08:19,416 --> 00:08:20,542 Couple of days ago. Told you. 232 00:08:20,667 --> 00:08:22,460 Found a primo parking spot. 233 00:08:22,544 --> 00:08:24,129 Didn't have to move it 'til Tuesday. 234 00:08:24,212 --> 00:08:26,297 You stole some plates, you put 'em on your car, 235 00:08:26,381 --> 00:08:27,882 you drove the car onto the tracks, 236 00:08:28,007 --> 00:08:30,385 derailing the train and killing ten-- 237 00:08:30,510 --> 00:08:31,553 Twelve. 238 00:08:31,636 --> 00:08:32,512 Twelve people, and injuring 239 00:08:32,637 --> 00:08:34,180 God knows how many others. Wasn't me. 240 00:08:34,305 --> 00:08:35,390 You know who was on that train? 241 00:08:35,515 --> 00:08:37,017 No idea, man. 242 00:08:37,142 --> 00:08:39,686 Mark Nesoff. 243 00:08:41,563 --> 00:08:43,231 Nesoff the D.A.? 244 00:08:43,356 --> 00:08:45,525 No way. Way. 245 00:08:46,735 --> 00:08:47,569 He hurt? 246 00:08:47,694 --> 00:08:50,530 Too bad for you, no, he wasn't. 247 00:08:50,613 --> 00:08:51,656 It's quite a coincidence that your car 248 00:08:51,740 --> 00:08:53,616 derails the train that Nesoff is on. 249 00:08:53,700 --> 00:08:56,453 All it is--a coincidence. 250 00:08:56,536 --> 00:08:58,538 Oh, no, Lenny, it's much more than that. 251 00:08:58,663 --> 00:09:00,540 It's called motive. 252 00:09:00,623 --> 00:09:03,251 M-O-T-I-V-E, motive. 253 00:09:03,376 --> 00:09:05,462 I'm not worried about the retrial, 254 00:09:05,545 --> 00:09:08,089 if that's why you think I did this. 255 00:09:08,173 --> 00:09:09,674 You tied that girl up in her own apartment. 256 00:09:09,758 --> 00:09:11,342 You raped her at gunpoint. 257 00:09:11,426 --> 00:09:13,386 It was a game. She asked me to. 258 00:09:13,511 --> 00:09:14,512 Is that how she wound up in the hospital-- 259 00:09:14,596 --> 00:09:15,430 playing a game? 260 00:09:15,513 --> 00:09:17,557 They got you cold on rape, sodomy, 261 00:09:17,682 --> 00:09:19,768 false imprisonment-- 262 00:09:19,893 --> 00:09:21,603 I'll beat the next one, same as I beat the first trial. 263 00:09:21,686 --> 00:09:23,438 A mistrial? Hung jury? 264 00:09:23,563 --> 00:09:25,732 You won't get that lucky again. 265 00:09:25,815 --> 00:09:27,442 Luck had nothing to do with it. 266 00:09:27,567 --> 00:09:29,152 All I need is one girl on that jury 267 00:09:29,277 --> 00:09:31,071 to make eye contact with. 268 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:35,742 You're not that charming. 269 00:09:35,867 --> 00:09:38,453 I just convince her I could never have done 270 00:09:38,536 --> 00:09:41,206 such a nasty thing as they claim I did. 271 00:09:41,289 --> 00:09:43,625 She looks in my eyes, and she knows. 272 00:09:43,750 --> 00:09:47,754 I'm not that kind of guy. 273 00:09:53,468 --> 00:09:55,595 He's a cocky bastard. 274 00:09:55,678 --> 00:09:57,263 Guy's a piece of work. 275 00:09:57,389 --> 00:09:58,515 So what do you think? 276 00:09:58,598 --> 00:09:59,474 Oh, I like him 277 00:09:59,599 --> 00:10:00,809 a lot for it. 278 00:10:00,934 --> 00:10:03,353 I think he looks good-- means, motive, opportunity. 279 00:10:03,436 --> 00:10:04,521 He's got no alibi to speak of. 280 00:10:06,231 --> 00:10:08,483 Sorry to disturb you, Lou. Lab said it was urgent. 281 00:10:08,566 --> 00:10:09,651 Thank. 282 00:10:09,776 --> 00:10:11,611 Well, they got two sets of prints 283 00:10:11,695 --> 00:10:13,405 on the steering wheel. 284 00:10:13,488 --> 00:10:15,448 Thorne's and someone who's not in the system. 285 00:10:15,573 --> 00:10:16,616 Doesn't mean anything. 286 00:10:16,700 --> 00:10:17,617 He's right. 287 00:10:17,701 --> 00:10:19,411 He could have loaned his car to a friend 288 00:10:19,494 --> 00:10:21,079 a week ago or a month ago. 289 00:10:21,162 --> 00:10:22,580 Well, it's better to put it to rest anyway. 290 00:10:22,664 --> 00:10:23,790 Go on over to Intel. 291 00:10:23,915 --> 00:10:26,292 See if they finished checking backgrounds 292 00:10:26,376 --> 00:10:27,127 on the passengers. 293 00:10:27,168 --> 00:10:28,670 What about Prince Charming here? 294 00:10:28,795 --> 00:10:30,547 We were just getting stared. 295 00:10:30,672 --> 00:10:32,257 I'll take care of him. 296 00:10:36,594 --> 00:10:40,140 Post-9/11, we do more terrorism than drug work, truthfully. 297 00:10:40,223 --> 00:10:42,642 We have agents from customs, immigration, 298 00:10:42,767 --> 00:10:45,770 N.Y.P.D., D.E.A., I.R.S., F.B.I., 299 00:10:45,854 --> 00:10:46,855 and access to all their systems. 300 00:10:46,980 --> 00:10:49,524 Do you think that this was a terrorist attack? 301 00:10:49,649 --> 00:10:52,193 At first, I thought, "Okay, here we go." 302 00:10:52,318 --> 00:10:55,071 But it's been quiet-- no chatter, no other incidents. 303 00:10:55,196 --> 00:10:56,531 We're starting to be reasonably confident 304 00:10:56,656 --> 00:10:58,616 this was an isolated criminal act only. 305 00:10:58,742 --> 00:11:00,702 We hear you have a suspect in custody. 306 00:11:00,827 --> 00:11:02,370 Yeah, looks good for it. 307 00:11:02,495 --> 00:11:03,621 But there's a second set of prints. 308 00:11:03,705 --> 00:11:04,664 And we all know that fingerprints 309 00:11:04,748 --> 00:11:05,832 don't come with a timestamp. 310 00:11:05,957 --> 00:11:08,668 You complete the backgrounds on all the aideds yet? 311 00:11:08,752 --> 00:11:10,378 Yeah. Anybody jump out at you? 312 00:11:10,462 --> 00:11:11,671 Aside from the faked injuries 313 00:11:11,796 --> 00:11:13,673 in anticipation of a big insurance settlement 314 00:11:13,757 --> 00:11:14,674 with the railroad? 315 00:11:14,758 --> 00:11:16,301 People are amazing. 316 00:11:16,384 --> 00:11:18,845 Hey, you have to answer when opportunity knocks. 317 00:11:18,970 --> 00:11:21,556 12 men betwen the ages of 16 and 7, 318 00:11:21,681 --> 00:11:23,850 with no ticket stub, no monthly pass, 319 00:11:23,975 --> 00:11:25,643 couldn't remember where they boarded the train, 320 00:11:25,727 --> 00:11:27,354 or had an inappropriate address 321 00:11:27,479 --> 00:11:28,855 relative to ther station sto. 322 00:11:28,980 --> 00:11:29,856 You run 'em? 323 00:11:29,898 --> 00:11:31,733 No criminal records, not on any watch list. 324 00:11:31,858 --> 00:11:32,776 Four were vets. 325 00:11:32,901 --> 00:11:33,693 We had B.C.I. do a comparison 326 00:11:33,818 --> 00:11:35,403 against the secod set of print. 327 00:11:35,487 --> 00:11:37,614 Eliminated them right away. 328 00:11:37,697 --> 00:11:40,742 Here are the other eight for what it's worth. 329 00:11:40,825 --> 00:11:42,535 Thank you very much. 330 00:11:42,619 --> 00:11:44,788 My pleasur. 331 00:11:44,871 --> 00:11:47,082 Well, two of them live uptown here 332 00:11:47,165 --> 00:11:49,501 where Throne says his SUV was stolen. 333 00:11:49,584 --> 00:11:52,212 This list assumes these guys had real I.D.s. 334 00:11:52,337 --> 00:11:55,924 But let's say that the driver is not a terrorist. 335 00:11:56,049 --> 00:11:57,842 He stays around too long. He gets stuck there. 336 00:11:57,926 --> 00:11:59,386 Has to show his real I.D. 337 00:11:59,469 --> 00:12:01,513 What do we got to lose? 338 00:12:01,596 --> 00:12:03,556 I was visiting my girlfriend. 339 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:04,682 You told the detective 340 00:12:04,766 --> 00:12:06,726 you boarded the train at Purchase. 341 00:12:06,810 --> 00:12:08,478 I was confused, okay? 342 00:12:08,561 --> 00:12:09,729 Freaked out. I hit my head in the crash. 343 00:12:09,854 --> 00:12:11,564 I was groggy, okay? 344 00:12:11,648 --> 00:12:14,150 I kept saying Purchase. I meant White Plains. 345 00:12:14,234 --> 00:12:15,860 My girlfriend goes to Purchase. 346 00:12:15,944 --> 00:12:17,904 Her folks live in White Plains, okay? 347 00:12:17,988 --> 00:12:20,573 Would you watch your tone of voice with us, please? 348 00:12:20,699 --> 00:12:23,910 What are you, my parents? 349 00:12:28,915 --> 00:12:32,085 If you don't stop acting like a tough guy right now, 350 00:12:32,210 --> 00:12:34,337 I'm gonna take you over my knee, 351 00:12:34,421 --> 00:12:36,297 and I'm gonna spank you... 352 00:12:36,423 --> 00:12:38,383 in front of all of your friends. 353 00:12:38,508 --> 00:12:40,885 You get the message? 354 00:12:40,969 --> 00:12:42,345 Sorry. 355 00:12:46,558 --> 00:12:49,310 You showed the detective a student I.D.? 356 00:12:49,436 --> 00:12:50,729 Yeah. We need to see it. 357 00:12:50,812 --> 00:12:52,647 Uh, sure. 358 00:12:52,731 --> 00:12:54,607 I already told the cops I didn't see anything 359 00:12:54,691 --> 00:12:55,692 before the crash. 360 00:12:55,775 --> 00:12:56,901 Police officers. What? 361 00:12:56,985 --> 00:12:58,903 Cops, it's an offensive term. 362 00:12:58,987 --> 00:13:01,281 Oh...okay. I didn't know. 363 00:13:01,364 --> 00:13:03,241 Now you do. 364 00:13:03,325 --> 00:13:05,785 Okay, we're gonna have to copy this, 365 00:13:05,869 --> 00:13:06,786 see if it's authentic. 366 00:13:06,870 --> 00:13:08,288 These are easy to fake. 367 00:13:08,371 --> 00:13:10,415 Man, I need it to get into the student union. 368 00:13:10,498 --> 00:13:11,750 How am I gonna get dinner? 369 00:13:11,833 --> 00:13:12,751 You don't have anything else? 370 00:13:12,834 --> 00:13:14,586 Passport, driver's license? 371 00:13:14,669 --> 00:13:16,504 Neither one. 372 00:13:16,629 --> 00:13:18,048 How come you don't have a driver's license? 373 00:13:18,173 --> 00:13:19,674 I don't drive. 374 00:13:19,799 --> 00:13:21,384 You don't know how to drive a car? 375 00:13:21,468 --> 00:13:23,470 This is New York City. 376 00:13:23,595 --> 00:13:24,971 I never had to learn. 377 00:13:25,096 --> 00:13:27,640 I'm third generation no-driver's-license New Yorker. 378 00:13:27,766 --> 00:13:29,851 No driver's license, no passport. 379 00:13:29,976 --> 00:13:31,811 So if we said to you, "Don't leave town..." 380 00:13:31,936 --> 00:13:34,105 I wouldn't dream of it. 381 00:13:37,317 --> 00:13:39,986 Dave Buckley, 35, construction worker. 382 00:13:40,111 --> 00:13:42,322 Cuts and bruises, treated at the scene. 383 00:13:42,405 --> 00:13:44,824 Well, at least this guy has a driver's license. 384 00:13:44,908 --> 00:13:46,368 I'd like to get done with this thing, 385 00:13:46,493 --> 00:13:48,036 have another go at Lenny Thorne. 386 00:13:48,119 --> 00:13:49,829 So would I. 387 00:13:50,997 --> 00:13:52,248 Who is it? 388 00:13:52,374 --> 00:13:54,626 New York City Police Department, Mr. Buckley. 389 00:13:54,709 --> 00:13:56,419 Hang on a secon. 390 00:13:57,837 --> 00:14:00,131 Hey, yeah. Come on in. 391 00:14:01,841 --> 00:14:04,177 Ah, sorry about the mess there. 392 00:14:04,302 --> 00:14:05,678 I'm not much of a housekeeper. 393 00:14:05,804 --> 00:14:07,681 Here, let me clear you a spot there. 394 00:14:07,806 --> 00:14:09,849 That's okay, we won't be here that long. 395 00:14:09,974 --> 00:14:11,393 We just wanted to ask you a few more questions 396 00:14:11,518 --> 00:14:12,727 about the train. 397 00:14:12,811 --> 00:14:14,687 Looks like you got cut up a little bit. 398 00:14:14,813 --> 00:14:16,648 Yeah, you know, flying glass. 399 00:14:16,731 --> 00:14:17,982 You got kid? 400 00:14:18,066 --> 00:14:20,485 Yeah, that's my daughter. She's six. 401 00:14:20,568 --> 00:14:21,528 Going on 16. 402 00:14:21,653 --> 00:14:22,779 Yeah, I know what you mean. 403 00:14:22,862 --> 00:14:23,863 I got two-- a boy and a girl. 404 00:14:23,989 --> 00:14:25,115 Three and six also. 405 00:14:25,198 --> 00:14:27,742 Yeah, little girls, they're the best, though, huh? 406 00:14:27,826 --> 00:14:29,411 That father-daughter thing. 407 00:14:29,536 --> 00:14:30,578 Oh, it's great. 408 00:14:30,662 --> 00:14:31,830 Yeah, I wish I could freeze her 409 00:14:31,913 --> 00:14:32,998 at just at that age, you know? 410 00:14:33,081 --> 00:14:34,374 You divorced? 411 00:14:34,457 --> 00:14:35,542 Separated. 412 00:14:35,625 --> 00:14:37,919 Uh, you know, just, uh-- 413 00:14:38,044 --> 00:14:39,254 just a temporary thing. 414 00:14:39,337 --> 00:14:41,798 You know how it is. 415 00:14:41,881 --> 00:14:42,882 Ups and downs. 416 00:14:42,966 --> 00:14:43,758 We'll work it out. 417 00:14:43,883 --> 00:14:45,635 Your wrist. 418 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,053 Huh? 419 00:14:47,137 --> 00:14:48,930 Your writ is bleedin. 420 00:14:49,055 --> 00:14:51,850 Ah, yeah, I don't know why that keeps doing that. 421 00:14:51,933 --> 00:14:53,393 That happen at the wreck? 422 00:14:53,476 --> 00:14:54,769 Yeah, yeah. 423 00:14:54,853 --> 00:14:55,895 Well, they should have taken you to the hospital, 424 00:14:55,979 --> 00:14:57,772 had it sewn u. 425 00:14:57,897 --> 00:14:59,941 Yeah, well, I mean, they wanted to, but I... 426 00:15:00,066 --> 00:15:01,985 But what? You refused medical aid? 427 00:15:02,068 --> 00:15:05,155 I don't have insurance. 428 00:15:05,238 --> 00:15:07,991 Uh-huh. 429 00:15:11,995 --> 00:15:12,954 That looks pretty fresh. 430 00:15:13,079 --> 00:15:15,665 Yeah, well, I had it butterflied. 431 00:15:15,790 --> 00:15:17,584 I guess it probably busted loose. 432 00:15:17,709 --> 00:15:20,003 I want to take a look at that. 433 00:15:32,223 --> 00:15:34,184 Oh, yeah. 434 00:15:34,267 --> 00:15:35,810 Yeah. 435 00:15:35,935 --> 00:15:37,520 That's gonna need a fresh bandage. 436 00:15:37,604 --> 00:15:40,482 Yeah, there's some, uh-- some gauze over there. 437 00:15:40,607 --> 00:15:43,026 Nick. Yeah. 438 00:15:50,033 --> 00:15:52,702 This is not right. 439 00:15:52,786 --> 00:15:54,913 This is not right at all. 440 00:15:54,996 --> 00:15:56,122 What do you mean? 441 00:15:56,247 --> 00:15:59,459 Well, this wasn't caused by flying glass. 442 00:15:59,584 --> 00:16:00,794 Yeah, yeah, sure it was. 443 00:16:00,919 --> 00:16:01,961 No. 444 00:16:02,087 --> 00:16:04,130 No, it's too clean. 445 00:16:04,214 --> 00:16:06,883 This was caused by a blade. 446 00:16:06,966 --> 00:16:09,594 You cut yourself. You slashed your wrist. 447 00:16:09,677 --> 00:16:11,179 I-I didn't. 448 00:16:11,304 --> 00:16:12,263 Nick. 449 00:16:12,389 --> 00:16:14,015 No, that's a blade cut. No question. 450 00:16:14,140 --> 00:16:17,102 Why would you do that? 451 00:16:17,185 --> 00:16:18,770 I-I don't know. I didn't-- 452 00:16:18,853 --> 00:16:19,938 Well, you're gonna need a doctor. 453 00:16:20,021 --> 00:16:23,024 I don't know, I didn't... 454 00:16:23,149 --> 00:16:27,237 Why would you do such a thing, David? 455 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:28,738 David? 456 00:16:33,034 --> 00:16:35,078 I didn't mean to hurt anybody. 457 00:16:38,206 --> 00:16:40,000 I didn't mean to kill anybody. 458 00:16:40,125 --> 00:16:43,003 You killed 12 people. 459 00:16:51,803 --> 00:16:54,014 God, I'm sorry. 460 00:16:56,975 --> 00:16:59,185 I just meant to kill myself. 461 00:17:01,479 --> 00:17:03,732 You wanna give us a statement now? 462 00:17:03,857 --> 00:17:06,609 Ah, sure, why not? 463 00:17:18,371 --> 00:17:21,041 Do I think he really meant to commit suicide 464 00:17:21,124 --> 00:17:23,877 when he put that SUV in front of the train? 465 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,170 I don't know. 466 00:17:25,253 --> 00:17:26,921 What difference does it make? 467 00:17:27,005 --> 00:17:29,049 It might influence how he's charged. 468 00:17:29,174 --> 00:17:31,509 His DNA's in the vehicle. 469 00:17:31,593 --> 00:17:33,219 His prints are on the steering wheel. 470 00:17:33,345 --> 00:17:35,013 His signature's on the confession. 471 00:17:35,096 --> 00:17:36,056 Is it bullet-proof? 472 00:17:36,181 --> 00:17:38,266 Witnessed, videotaped. 473 00:17:38,391 --> 00:17:40,101 Wish there had been a lawyer there. 474 00:17:40,185 --> 00:17:41,227 He didn't want one. 475 00:17:41,311 --> 00:17:43,438 Look, I hope you're charging him 476 00:17:43,521 --> 00:17:45,106 with 12 counts of Murder One, 477 00:17:45,190 --> 00:17:47,359 250 counts of attempted murder, 478 00:17:47,442 --> 00:17:49,444 and whatever else you can throw at him. 479 00:17:49,527 --> 00:17:52,322 I was at the scene, Counselor. 480 00:17:52,447 --> 00:17:54,532 And if this case doesn't help bring back 481 00:17:54,616 --> 00:17:57,077 the death penalty in New York State, 482 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,497 I don't know what will. 483 00:18:00,580 --> 00:18:02,957 It's hard to know where to begin with Mr. Buckley. 484 00:18:03,041 --> 00:18:04,292 I think we can hold 485 00:18:04,417 --> 00:18:06,628 the multitude of lesser counts in reserve. 486 00:18:06,711 --> 00:18:09,506 So the question is, which theory of Murder Two? 487 00:18:09,589 --> 00:18:12,092 Why wouldn't you hedge your bets and charge both? 488 00:18:12,217 --> 00:18:14,386 Until recently, that's exactly what we'd do. 489 00:18:14,469 --> 00:18:15,929 There was a red-alert ruling last year, 490 00:18:16,054 --> 00:18:17,055 People v. Payne. 491 00:18:17,138 --> 00:18:18,556 I'm not familiar with it. 492 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,934 The defendant shot the victim in the stomach 493 00:18:21,059 --> 00:18:22,018 with a shotgun. 494 00:18:22,102 --> 00:18:23,436 There was some question about why, 495 00:18:23,561 --> 00:18:26,022 so we charged him with both theories of Murder Two. 496 00:18:26,106 --> 00:18:28,274 The jury acquitted on Intentional, 497 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:29,984 convicted on Depraved Indifference. 498 00:18:30,068 --> 00:18:32,570 So the strategy worked. You got your fall-back position. 499 00:18:32,654 --> 00:18:34,614 The Court of Appeals overturned 500 00:18:34,698 --> 00:18:36,282 the Depraved Indifference conviction. 501 00:18:36,366 --> 00:18:37,367 Insufficient evidence. 502 00:18:37,492 --> 00:18:39,160 And since he'd already 503 00:18:39,285 --> 00:18:40,662 been acquitted of Intentional-- 504 00:18:40,745 --> 00:18:42,455 He walked. 505 00:18:42,539 --> 00:18:43,581 I think we go with Depraved. 506 00:18:43,665 --> 00:18:45,834 Take the classic law school example. 507 00:18:45,917 --> 00:18:48,002 Throwing open the lion's cage in a crowded zoo 508 00:18:48,086 --> 00:18:49,587 without regard for the consequences. 509 00:18:49,671 --> 00:18:51,631 That's exactly what he did, isn't it? 510 00:18:51,715 --> 00:18:54,009 I'll draw up the indictment. 511 00:18:54,092 --> 00:18:55,844 Who's his lawyer? Legal aid? 512 00:18:55,927 --> 00:18:58,388 Someone just agreed to represent him pro bono. 513 00:18:58,471 --> 00:18:59,431 Rodney Fallon. 514 00:18:59,514 --> 00:19:02,308 You know hi? 515 00:19:02,392 --> 00:19:05,061 Let's arrange a meeting. 516 00:19:05,186 --> 00:19:10,358 My intent to file an affirmative defense. 517 00:19:13,486 --> 00:19:15,947 Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity? 518 00:19:16,031 --> 00:19:19,534 This is a textbook exampe of Depraved Indifferenc. 519 00:19:19,659 --> 00:19:23,621 And given that less than 1% of insanity defenses succeed-- 520 00:19:23,705 --> 00:19:25,498 It's still on the books. It ought to have some validity. 521 00:19:25,623 --> 00:19:28,084 The public doesn't believe in insanity defenses anymore. 522 00:19:28,168 --> 00:19:29,544 Look at Andrea Yates-- if a woman 523 00:19:29,627 --> 00:19:31,629 who drowns her four children isn't crazy, who is? 524 00:19:31,713 --> 00:19:33,673 That's Texas. This is New York City. 525 00:19:33,757 --> 00:19:35,216 I don't think there's a red state/blue state 526 00:19:35,342 --> 00:19:36,593 schism on this issue. 527 00:19:36,676 --> 00:19:38,720 We have every confidence of prevailing in front of a jury. 528 00:19:38,845 --> 00:19:41,181 The jury is going to see a very sympathetic man, Ms. Borgia. 529 00:19:41,264 --> 00:19:42,515 Not a monster. 530 00:19:42,599 --> 00:19:45,143 Someone who deserves treatment, not punishment. 531 00:19:45,268 --> 00:19:46,144 What are you looking for? 532 00:19:46,269 --> 00:19:48,146 Man Two. 533 00:19:48,229 --> 00:19:49,689 Are you joking? 534 00:19:49,773 --> 00:19:52,108 15 years, each count, to be served concurrently. 535 00:19:52,233 --> 00:19:54,194 As if he'd killed one person and not 12? 536 00:19:54,319 --> 00:19:56,363 That was his intent, one person: himself. 537 00:19:56,446 --> 00:19:59,532 I share my colleague's distaste for your proposal. 538 00:19:59,616 --> 00:20:01,409 Well, make me a counter. 539 00:20:01,493 --> 00:20:04,371 You shouldn't mislead your client, Mr. Fallon. 540 00:20:04,496 --> 00:20:06,414 He's going to prison for the rest of his life. 541 00:20:06,498 --> 00:20:08,375 That's no incentive. 542 00:20:08,500 --> 00:20:12,170 We understand that he has a large extended family. 543 00:20:12,253 --> 00:20:13,630 We'll recommend that he serve his sentence 544 00:20:13,755 --> 00:20:16,007 in a downstate penitentiary. 545 00:20:16,091 --> 00:20:17,384 No sale. 546 00:20:19,302 --> 00:20:21,388 Schedule a 7:30 exam. 547 00:20:21,471 --> 00:20:23,223 I have no doubt he will be 548 00:20:23,306 --> 00:20:25,183 judged competet to stand tria. 549 00:20:25,266 --> 00:20:27,227 No doubt. 550 00:20:27,310 --> 00:20:29,604 As you say, Ms. Borgia. 551 00:20:29,688 --> 00:20:33,066 These days, everyone's competent to stand trial. 552 00:20:33,191 --> 00:20:35,568 No matter how crazy they are. 553 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,702 The defendant stole an SUV, 554 00:20:43,785 --> 00:20:45,829 crashed it through a security gate, 555 00:20:45,912 --> 00:20:50,417 and left it directly in the path of a high-speed commuter train 556 00:20:50,500 --> 00:20:52,377 full of people on their way to work. 557 00:20:52,460 --> 00:20:54,629 He killed 12. 558 00:20:54,713 --> 00:20:58,425 Injured more than 150 others. 559 00:20:58,550 --> 00:21:00,009 Some of them sustained injuries 560 00:21:00,093 --> 00:21:02,095 that will cripple them for the rest of their lives. 561 00:21:02,178 --> 00:21:05,557 He put every single person on that train at risk. 562 00:21:05,682 --> 00:21:10,145 Why he did it is irrelevant. 563 00:21:10,228 --> 00:21:11,604 That he did it, 564 00:21:11,730 --> 00:21:13,732 is incontrovertible. 565 00:21:13,857 --> 00:21:16,609 And ultimately the only thing that matters. 566 00:21:29,330 --> 00:21:31,624 The deed speaks for itself. 567 00:21:31,708 --> 00:21:33,793 Davey Buckley was out of his mind. 568 00:21:33,918 --> 00:21:36,296 He wasn't thinking about the consequences of his actions. 569 00:21:36,421 --> 00:21:37,505 He couldn't. 570 00:21:37,630 --> 00:21:40,383 He was focused solely 571 00:21:40,508 --> 00:21:45,388 on the insane act of taking his own life. 572 00:21:45,513 --> 00:21:49,017 Davey Buckley has a troubled history of behaviors 573 00:21:49,142 --> 00:21:52,395 that point to an undiagnosed mental illness. 574 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,356 Depression. 575 00:21:54,439 --> 00:21:56,691 Bipolar disorder. 576 00:21:56,816 --> 00:21:59,611 He never had the resources to get the help he needed. 577 00:21:59,694 --> 00:22:01,488 He fell through the cracks. 578 00:22:01,571 --> 00:22:04,115 Davey Buckley was an accident waiting to happen. 579 00:22:04,199 --> 00:22:06,743 Now, you and I know that there is no safety net 580 00:22:06,826 --> 00:22:08,495 for the working poor. 581 00:22:08,620 --> 00:22:11,748 If he was rich, or even middle-class, 582 00:22:11,873 --> 00:22:14,167 this never would have occurred. 583 00:22:14,292 --> 00:22:17,629 Davey Buckley is not 584 00:22:17,712 --> 00:22:20,840 criminally responsible for that tragic accident. 585 00:22:24,803 --> 00:22:27,097 He timed his arrivl at the security gae 586 00:22:27,222 --> 00:22:29,766 with the shift change at the monitoring station, 587 00:22:29,849 --> 00:22:31,518 so there was minimal opportunity 588 00:22:31,643 --> 00:22:34,562 to alert the crew and avert the collision. 589 00:22:34,646 --> 00:22:36,856 How would you characterize his actions? 590 00:22:36,940 --> 00:22:38,316 Objection. 591 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:39,484 The witness has no insight 592 00:22:39,567 --> 00:22:41,236 as to Mr. Buckley's state of mind. 593 00:22:41,319 --> 00:22:43,154 Mr. McCoy. 594 00:22:43,238 --> 00:22:45,907 Detective... 595 00:22:46,032 --> 00:22:49,786 did you form an opinion about the expertise 596 00:22:49,911 --> 00:22:50,870 and efficacy 597 00:22:50,954 --> 00:22:52,831 of the defendant's criminal activities 598 00:22:52,914 --> 00:22:54,874 in relation to this incident? 599 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,795 Highly-organized, well-planned, well-executed. 600 00:22:58,878 --> 00:23:02,465 How about the defendant's actions after the crash? 601 00:23:02,549 --> 00:23:04,384 He remaind at the scen. 602 00:23:04,467 --> 00:23:06,261 Mingled in with the real passengers. 603 00:23:06,386 --> 00:23:07,595 He used a pocket knife 604 00:23:07,721 --> 00:23:09,556 to inflict some superficial wounds 605 00:23:09,639 --> 00:23:10,890 to his hands and arms. 606 00:23:10,974 --> 00:23:13,560 He was treated by medical personnel and released. 607 00:23:13,685 --> 00:23:15,854 How do you interpret those actions? 608 00:23:15,937 --> 00:23:17,397 He was trying to blend in, get away, 609 00:23:17,522 --> 00:23:19,190 like any other hit-and-runner. 610 00:23:19,274 --> 00:23:20,191 Objection! 611 00:23:20,275 --> 00:23:21,317 Sustained. 612 00:23:27,657 --> 00:23:29,826 You arrested Mr. Buckley? 613 00:23:29,909 --> 00:23:31,953 Ye. 614 00:23:32,037 --> 00:23:33,455 Interrogated him? 615 00:23:33,538 --> 00:23:34,581 I interviewed hi. 616 00:23:34,664 --> 00:23:36,249 Yes, me and my partner. 617 00:23:36,333 --> 00:23:37,459 He confessed? 618 00:23:37,584 --> 00:23:40,336 He voluntarily gave us a statement, yes. 619 00:23:40,420 --> 00:23:42,297 And after he confessed? 620 00:23:42,380 --> 00:23:44,257 We processed him through the system. 621 00:23:44,340 --> 00:23:47,010 Did you make any special arrangements for Mr. Buckley? 622 00:23:47,135 --> 00:23:50,263 Special arrangements? 623 00:23:50,346 --> 00:23:53,308 Given the circumstances surrounding this incident, 624 00:23:53,391 --> 00:23:55,310 were any special precautions taken 625 00:23:55,393 --> 00:23:57,187 regarding his incarceration? 626 00:23:59,731 --> 00:24:03,777 He was placed on 24-hour suicide watch. 627 00:24:09,574 --> 00:24:11,326 How do you think it's going? 628 00:24:11,451 --> 00:24:14,663 I think we put on a strong case. 629 00:24:14,788 --> 00:24:16,956 You think Fallon scored any points? 630 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,958 The fact that the police put Davey Buckley 631 00:24:19,084 --> 00:24:22,504 on a suicide watch-- a reasonable precaution. 632 00:24:22,587 --> 00:24:25,507 I was going over their witness list for tomorrow. 633 00:24:25,590 --> 00:24:27,634 There's a neighborhood storefront clinic doctor 634 00:24:27,717 --> 00:24:28,676 and an expert for hire. 635 00:24:28,802 --> 00:24:31,429 Who probably spent all of an hour 636 00:24:31,513 --> 00:24:32,972 with Davey Buckley. 637 00:24:33,056 --> 00:24:35,642 But will tell us that he had a troubled childhood 638 00:24:35,725 --> 00:24:37,644 and he's clinically insane. 639 00:24:37,769 --> 00:24:38,686 What about this neighborhood doctor? 640 00:24:38,770 --> 00:24:39,729 What's that about? 641 00:24:39,813 --> 00:24:40,730 Fallon's not interested 642 00:24:40,814 --> 00:24:43,900 in rehabilitating the insanity defense. 643 00:24:44,025 --> 00:24:46,820 He's using this as a soapbox. 644 00:24:46,903 --> 00:24:48,947 Mental health benefits for the working poor. 645 00:24:49,030 --> 00:24:51,616 That could resonate with a jury. 646 00:24:51,741 --> 00:24:52,867 Middle-class people are worried 647 00:24:52,951 --> 00:24:54,411 about losing their health insurance. 648 00:24:54,494 --> 00:24:55,829 This isn't about that. 649 00:24:55,954 --> 00:24:58,999 I'm not going to let Fallon distract them. 650 00:25:02,836 --> 00:25:04,629 Well, according to these records, 651 00:25:04,713 --> 00:25:06,631 Davey Buckley came to your clinic three times. 652 00:25:06,715 --> 00:25:08,299 If that's what it says. 653 00:25:08,383 --> 00:25:11,010 In fact, he saw a different doctor each time. 654 00:25:11,136 --> 00:25:12,804 Do you remember what his symptoms were? 655 00:25:12,887 --> 00:25:14,472 I'd have to look at the file. 656 00:25:14,556 --> 00:25:15,640 Depression. 657 00:25:15,724 --> 00:25:17,976 Do you remember what you prescribed for him? 658 00:25:18,059 --> 00:25:20,061 Again, without refreshing my memory-- 659 00:25:20,186 --> 00:25:21,354 Haldol. 660 00:25:21,479 --> 00:25:22,897 If that's what it says. 661 00:25:22,981 --> 00:25:24,691 That's exactly what it says. 662 00:25:24,816 --> 00:25:27,485 How much Haldol did you prescribe for Mr. Buckley? 663 00:25:27,569 --> 00:25:28,945 Do you remember? 664 00:25:29,070 --> 00:25:30,947 A year's worth? A month's worth? 665 00:25:31,072 --> 00:25:33,491 It would have ben less than tha. 666 00:25:33,575 --> 00:25:36,578 Four or five days worth.. at the mos. 667 00:25:36,703 --> 00:25:38,705 Did you ever do any follow-up with Mr. Buckley 668 00:25:38,788 --> 00:25:39,789 to see how he was doing? 669 00:25:39,914 --> 00:25:41,374 We don't do follow-up. 670 00:25:41,458 --> 00:25:43,710 We don't have the resources. 671 00:25:43,793 --> 00:25:46,504 Are you a psychiatrist? 672 00:25:46,588 --> 00:25:48,548 No. 673 00:25:48,673 --> 00:25:49,591 Have you ever had any training 674 00:25:49,674 --> 00:25:52,218 in psychiatry or psychology? 675 00:25:52,344 --> 00:25:55,597 Just the standad six-week rotatio. 676 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,724 Yet you felt competent in diagnosing Mr. Buckley 677 00:25:57,807 --> 00:25:58,933 as depressed. 678 00:25:59,059 --> 00:26:01,728 He diagnosed himself. 679 00:26:01,811 --> 00:26:04,105 If a patient tells me he's depressed-- 680 00:26:04,189 --> 00:26:05,398 you give him Haldol. 681 00:26:05,523 --> 00:26:09,653 Three or four days worth. 682 00:26:09,736 --> 00:26:11,696 Why do people come to your clinic? 683 00:26:11,821 --> 00:26:13,573 It's in the neighborhood. 684 00:26:13,656 --> 00:26:15,450 Inexpensive. 685 00:26:15,575 --> 00:26:16,868 If people don't have insurance-- 686 00:26:16,993 --> 00:26:17,869 In other words, they come because 687 00:26:17,952 --> 00:26:19,412 they have no other choice. 688 00:26:19,496 --> 00:26:23,750 We do the best we cn under the circumstance. 689 00:26:23,875 --> 00:26:25,960 Did Davey Buckley have insurance? 690 00:26:26,086 --> 00:26:27,462 No. 691 00:26:27,545 --> 00:26:28,880 He didn't. 692 00:26:28,963 --> 00:26:30,632 Do you think he would have come to your clinic 693 00:26:30,715 --> 00:26:31,674 if he had? 694 00:26:31,758 --> 00:26:34,928 Probably not. 695 00:26:39,891 --> 00:26:42,018 Are there circumstances under which 696 00:26:42,102 --> 00:26:44,813 you would have sent Mr. Buckley to another facility 697 00:26:44,896 --> 00:26:46,022 for further care? 698 00:26:46,147 --> 00:26:48,650 Sure, if he exhibited severe symptoms, 699 00:26:48,775 --> 00:26:50,652 of course we would have. 700 00:26:50,735 --> 00:26:52,570 Thank you. 701 00:26:52,654 --> 00:26:53,613 Redirect, Your Honor? 702 00:26:53,738 --> 00:26:55,156 Go ahead. 703 00:26:57,659 --> 00:27:00,036 Isn't it true, Doctor, that there is an unspoken policy 704 00:27:00,161 --> 00:27:01,621 at your clinic-- Objection! 705 00:27:01,746 --> 00:27:03,540 Well, if there was an understanding, 706 00:27:03,665 --> 00:27:05,125 certainly the witness can speak to it. 707 00:27:05,250 --> 00:27:06,835 Overruled. 708 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,753 Isn't it your understandin, Docto, 709 00:27:08,878 --> 00:27:10,088 that whenever possibl, 710 00:27:10,171 --> 00:27:11,965 you're to throw cheap drugs at a patient? 711 00:27:12,090 --> 00:27:13,591 And not send them to the hospital 712 00:27:13,675 --> 00:27:14,926 for further treatment? 713 00:27:15,009 --> 00:27:17,679 That is a gross overstatement. 714 00:27:17,804 --> 00:27:20,181 Really? 715 00:27:20,265 --> 00:27:22,976 Well, if you say so. 716 00:27:26,896 --> 00:27:28,440 Mr. Fallo. 717 00:27:28,565 --> 00:27:29,899 Davey, Davey, now, what we're gonna do 718 00:27:30,025 --> 00:27:31,901 is we're gonna call an expert-- 719 00:27:31,985 --> 00:27:33,153 Mr. Fallon, please call your next witness. 720 00:27:33,278 --> 00:27:37,824 Yes, I'd like to call expert witness Dr. Sheldon Farnes. 721 00:27:37,907 --> 00:27:39,784 That's not--no. I don't agree with that. 722 00:27:39,868 --> 00:27:41,369 I don't want you t. 723 00:27:41,453 --> 00:27:42,662 Mr. Buckley, that is not appropriate. 724 00:27:42,746 --> 00:27:43,997 I-I'm sorry, Your Honor. 725 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,915 I don't agree to this. Not at all. 726 00:27:46,041 --> 00:27:47,500 Mr. Fallon, please remind your client 727 00:27:47,584 --> 00:27:48,626 this is a court of law. 728 00:27:48,710 --> 00:27:50,670 He's not my lawyer anymore. Davey. 729 00:27:50,754 --> 00:27:52,172 No, I--I'm firing him, Your Honor. 730 00:27:52,255 --> 00:27:54,424 Your Honor, can we recess for a few minutes, please? 731 00:27:54,507 --> 00:27:56,092 I want to represent myself, Your Honor. 732 00:27:56,176 --> 00:27:59,054 That is not wise, Mr. Buckley. 733 00:27:59,137 --> 00:28:01,139 I want to change my plea, too. 734 00:28:01,222 --> 00:28:03,224 You wish to plead guilty? 735 00:28:03,349 --> 00:28:04,809 Not guilty. 736 00:28:04,934 --> 00:28:06,853 I wish to plead not guilty. 737 00:28:06,978 --> 00:28:08,772 I don't understand, what-- 738 00:28:08,897 --> 00:28:09,856 No insanit. 739 00:28:09,939 --> 00:28:14,110 Uh, you know, just not guilty. 740 00:28:21,201 --> 00:28:22,202 and this morning? 741 00:28:22,327 --> 00:28:24,371 Why Davey Buckley's sudden change of heart? 742 00:28:24,454 --> 00:28:26,331 I checked the visitor's log at Rikers. 743 00:28:26,414 --> 00:28:28,208 His brother Thomas paid him a visit last night. 744 00:28:28,333 --> 00:28:30,377 I called Thomas, I asked him what they talked about. 745 00:28:30,460 --> 00:28:32,379 He said he just tried to cheer Davey up. 746 00:28:32,504 --> 00:28:34,381 Told him how well things were going? 747 00:28:34,464 --> 00:28:37,258 What a great job Fallon was doing, 748 00:28:37,384 --> 00:28:39,427 how persuasive their expert witness would be? 749 00:28:39,552 --> 00:28:41,304 More or less. 750 00:28:41,429 --> 00:28:42,931 Maybe brother Thomas was too convincing. 751 00:28:43,056 --> 00:28:44,516 Buckley's starting to believe 752 00:28:44,599 --> 00:28:46,726 that Fallon's strategy might actually work. 753 00:28:46,810 --> 00:28:48,645 I don't follow you. 754 00:28:48,728 --> 00:28:51,272 If Davey Buckley is acquitted by reason of insanity, 755 00:28:51,398 --> 00:28:53,191 he goes to a mental institution... 756 00:28:53,316 --> 00:28:56,194 for an indeterminate amount of time. 757 00:28:56,277 --> 00:28:58,321 He'd rather go to prison? 758 00:28:58,405 --> 00:29:00,782 I don't know. 759 00:29:00,907 --> 00:29:01,950 Doesn't it work to our advantage 760 00:29:02,075 --> 00:29:03,201 if he represents himself? 761 00:29:03,284 --> 00:29:04,994 That's a wild card. 762 00:29:05,078 --> 00:29:06,621 I hate to give an appellate court 763 00:29:06,746 --> 00:29:08,415 anything to hang a reversal on. 764 00:29:08,498 --> 00:29:11,251 Hopefully Judge Bradley won't let it get that far. 765 00:29:15,130 --> 00:29:17,424 Mr. Buckley... 766 00:29:17,507 --> 00:29:20,385 do you understand the pitfalls of representing yourself? 767 00:29:20,468 --> 00:29:22,721 The need for adequate legal counsel 768 00:29:22,804 --> 00:29:24,848 in our adversarial system? 769 00:29:24,931 --> 00:29:26,808 Yes, Your Honor. 770 00:29:26,933 --> 00:29:28,601 I have to warn you, Mr. Buckley, 771 00:29:28,685 --> 00:29:32,272 you will forfeit your right to self-representation 772 00:29:32,397 --> 00:29:35,567 if you engage in disruptive or obstreperous conduct 773 00:29:35,650 --> 00:29:38,820 calculated to undermine or delay the progress 774 00:29:38,945 --> 00:29:40,238 of this trial. 775 00:29:40,321 --> 00:29:42,115 I understand, Your Honor. 776 00:29:44,034 --> 00:29:46,161 All right, Mr. Buckley. 777 00:29:46,286 --> 00:29:47,078 You may proceed. 778 00:29:47,203 --> 00:29:49,622 Your Honor, with all due respect-- 779 00:29:49,748 --> 00:29:51,458 I know the People's position, Mr. McCoy. 780 00:29:51,541 --> 00:29:54,127 Your Honor, in light of this decision, 781 00:29:54,210 --> 00:29:55,962 I would like to be relieved of my duties. 782 00:29:56,046 --> 00:29:58,006 Your application is denied. 783 00:29:58,089 --> 00:30:00,383 I need you to be standby counsel for Mr. Buckley. 784 00:30:00,467 --> 00:30:02,802 Your Honor, I-- I will not take no for an answer, Mr. Fallon. 785 00:30:02,927 --> 00:30:04,012 Mr. Buckley, 786 00:30:04,137 --> 00:30:06,598 when will you be ready to call your first witness? 787 00:30:06,681 --> 00:30:08,767 I only have one witness, Your Honor. 788 00:30:08,850 --> 00:30:09,976 Myself. 789 00:30:10,060 --> 00:30:12,854 How do you propose to testify 790 00:30:12,979 --> 00:30:14,689 and do direct examination? 791 00:30:14,773 --> 00:30:18,360 Well, I thought I could write out the questions 792 00:30:18,485 --> 00:30:20,612 and, uh, Mr. Fallon could ask them 793 00:30:20,737 --> 00:30:21,654 so I could answer. 794 00:30:21,780 --> 00:30:23,031 Your Honor, 795 00:30:23,114 --> 00:30:25,367 this idea is just further evidence 796 00:30:25,492 --> 00:30:28,453 that Mr. Buckley shouldn't represent himself. 797 00:30:28,536 --> 00:30:30,830 Well, I think it's a very practical idea, Mr. Fallon. 798 00:30:30,955 --> 00:30:33,500 Court will reconvene tomorrow. 799 00:30:38,672 --> 00:30:40,924 Did you really intend to kill yourself? 800 00:30:41,049 --> 00:30:43,426 Ye. 801 00:30:45,637 --> 00:30:48,348 Didn't you think other people would be hurt? 802 00:30:48,431 --> 00:30:54,354 I feel terrible about that. 803 00:30:54,479 --> 00:30:56,690 I mean, I honestly thought that the train 804 00:30:56,815 --> 00:30:58,983 would demolish the SUV 805 00:30:59,067 --> 00:31:00,860 and just keep goin. 806 00:31:00,944 --> 00:31:02,737 The train ws so much bigge. 807 00:31:02,862 --> 00:31:03,989 It was so much heavie. 808 00:31:04,072 --> 00:31:06,366 And, uh... 809 00:31:06,449 --> 00:31:08,660 I thought it would just smash the car. 810 00:31:08,743 --> 00:31:13,540 Or it would push it aside like a bulldozer. 811 00:31:15,291 --> 00:31:17,377 What was your state of mind that morning? 812 00:31:17,502 --> 00:31:20,755 I just wanted to put mysef out of my miser. 813 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,467 That's all I was thinking about. 814 00:31:31,349 --> 00:31:33,476 Then why didn't you? 815 00:31:36,229 --> 00:31:40,692 I saw the train coming, and, uh... 816 00:31:40,817 --> 00:31:43,153 I saw my little girl's face. 817 00:31:43,236 --> 00:31:47,949 And I just-- I couldn't do it. 818 00:31:48,033 --> 00:31:51,286 I tried to drive the car off the tracks, I swear to God, 819 00:31:51,369 --> 00:31:53,246 and it was stuck. 820 00:31:56,249 --> 00:31:59,586 I didn't mean to hurt anyone. 821 00:31:59,669 --> 00:32:02,881 I didn't mean for anyone to get hurt. 822 00:32:10,597 --> 00:32:12,432 I'm concerned he's coming across 823 00:32:12,557 --> 00:32:14,559 as an effective, sympathetic defendant. 824 00:32:14,642 --> 00:32:16,936 I was going over Fallon's witness list, 825 00:32:17,020 --> 00:32:19,230 the ones he would have called if Buckley hadn't fired him. 826 00:32:19,314 --> 00:32:20,815 His brothers and sisters are on the list. 827 00:32:20,940 --> 00:32:22,108 More sibling testimony 828 00:32:22,233 --> 00:32:23,818 about the trials and tribulations 829 00:32:23,902 --> 00:32:24,903 of Davey Buckley. 830 00:32:24,986 --> 00:32:26,071 That's the thing. 831 00:32:26,154 --> 00:32:27,447 There's another brother-- Jimmy. 832 00:32:27,572 --> 00:32:29,783 He's the oldest. He owns a construction company. 833 00:32:29,866 --> 00:32:31,493 Davey used to work for him. 834 00:32:31,576 --> 00:32:34,120 Jimmy Buckley wasn't on Fallon's witness list. 835 00:32:34,245 --> 00:32:35,789 All the others were, but not him. 836 00:32:35,914 --> 00:32:36,956 I'm due back for cross. 837 00:32:37,082 --> 00:32:39,042 See what he has to say. 838 00:32:40,752 --> 00:32:43,713 You didn't think anyone else would get hurt? 839 00:32:43,797 --> 00:32:45,507 No. 840 00:32:45,632 --> 00:32:50,720 And you didn't want to leave your daughter fatherless? 841 00:32:50,804 --> 00:32:52,681 I couldn't. 842 00:32:52,806 --> 00:32:54,599 Commendable. 843 00:32:55,934 --> 00:32:58,478 What about all the other fatherless daughters and sons 844 00:32:58,603 --> 00:33:00,772 you created through your reckless disregard 845 00:33:00,855 --> 00:33:02,148 for other people's lives? 846 00:33:02,273 --> 00:33:03,441 Objection. 847 00:33:03,525 --> 00:33:05,860 If I'm allowed to object. 848 00:33:05,944 --> 00:33:07,696 You are. Sustained. 849 00:33:07,821 --> 00:33:09,572 If you really wanted to kill yourself, 850 00:33:09,656 --> 00:33:11,157 why didn't you use a gun, Mr. Buckley? 851 00:33:11,241 --> 00:33:12,450 Or a knife? 852 00:33:12,534 --> 00:33:13,993 Take sleeping pills? 853 00:33:14,077 --> 00:33:15,829 Throw yourself out the window? 854 00:33:15,912 --> 00:33:18,832 I wanted to be sure. 855 00:33:18,957 --> 00:33:20,500 I didn't want to survive 856 00:33:20,583 --> 00:33:22,919 and become a burden on my family. 857 00:33:23,002 --> 00:33:27,215 And why didn't you just walk onto the tracks? 858 00:33:27,340 --> 00:33:30,343 Throw yourself in front of the train? 859 00:33:32,178 --> 00:33:34,055 I don't know. 860 00:33:34,180 --> 00:33:36,099 What was the real reason 861 00:33:36,224 --> 00:33:38,226 you decided to derail that train? 862 00:33:38,309 --> 00:33:39,728 I didn't want to derail the train. 863 00:33:39,853 --> 00:33:41,813 I wanted to kill myself. 864 00:33:41,896 --> 00:33:44,232 Wasn't it to get your estranged wife's attention? 865 00:33:44,316 --> 00:33:46,276 No, that wasn't the reason. 866 00:33:46,359 --> 00:33:51,031 She's been here for you everyday, hasn't she? 867 00:33:51,156 --> 00:33:53,700 Yes, she has. 868 00:33:53,783 --> 00:33:57,662 You succeeded in getting her attention. 869 00:33:57,746 --> 00:34:00,248 And all it cost was 12 lives and hundreds of injuries. 870 00:34:00,373 --> 00:34:02,083 Objection. Sustained. 871 00:34:02,208 --> 00:34:05,128 Do you think you're the victim here, Mr. Buckley? 872 00:34:05,253 --> 00:34:07,714 No. 873 00:34:07,839 --> 00:34:11,634 Were you hoping to gain her sympathy? 874 00:34:11,718 --> 00:34:14,763 No. 875 00:34:14,888 --> 00:34:16,222 Are you hoping that she'll take you back, 876 00:34:16,306 --> 00:34:17,432 even if you're in jail? 877 00:34:17,557 --> 00:34:20,101 Your Honor, Mr. McCoy is busily painting a picture 878 00:34:20,185 --> 00:34:21,770 that is entirely speculative. 879 00:34:21,853 --> 00:34:23,188 Sustained. 880 00:34:23,271 --> 00:34:25,607 Nothing further, Your Honor. 881 00:34:25,690 --> 00:34:27,067 Mr. Buckley.. 882 00:34:27,192 --> 00:34:28,985 you may step dow. 883 00:34:31,112 --> 00:34:33,239 Does the defense wih to call any other witnesse, 884 00:34:33,365 --> 00:34:36,284 Mr. Fallo? 885 00:34:36,409 --> 00:34:39,120 Your Honor... the defense rests. 886 00:34:39,204 --> 00:34:40,872 Mr. McCoy. 887 00:34:40,955 --> 00:34:42,916 The People have a witness to call in rebuttal, Your Honor. 888 00:34:43,041 --> 00:34:44,209 James Buckley. 889 00:34:44,292 --> 00:34:45,668 All righ, we'll reces 890 00:34:45,752 --> 00:34:47,921 until first thig tomorrow mornin. 891 00:34:50,632 --> 00:34:52,801 Davey's proe to melanchol. 892 00:34:52,926 --> 00:34:54,552 Always has been. 893 00:34:54,677 --> 00:34:56,846 I mean, he's sweet...funny. 894 00:34:56,930 --> 00:34:58,598 People like him-- when he's up. 895 00:34:58,681 --> 00:35:01,643 When he's down, when he's drinking, 896 00:35:01,768 --> 00:35:04,521 he's dark as dark could be. 897 00:35:04,646 --> 00:35:06,189 He has a drinking problem? 898 00:35:06,272 --> 00:35:07,983 Since he was a kid, yeah. 899 00:35:08,108 --> 00:35:10,610 He was sober at the time of the train wreck. 900 00:35:10,694 --> 00:35:12,737 On and off the wagn his whole lif. 901 00:35:12,821 --> 00:35:16,741 Growing up, did you and your family 902 00:35:16,825 --> 00:35:19,494 think of your brother as being mentally unstable? 903 00:35:19,577 --> 00:35:22,622 More like hard luck. 904 00:35:22,706 --> 00:35:23,623 "Davey's in trouble again." 905 00:35:23,707 --> 00:35:25,417 "Davey got himself in another scrape." 906 00:35:25,500 --> 00:35:27,961 "Davey can't cath a break, poor kid" 907 00:35:28,044 --> 00:35:29,587 What kind of trouble? 908 00:35:29,671 --> 00:35:31,005 Ah, trouble in school, trouble at work. 909 00:35:31,131 --> 00:35:33,049 Couldn't pay attention. Couldn't hold a job. 910 00:35:33,174 --> 00:35:35,802 You say he couldn't hold a job, but he worked for you. 911 00:35:35,885 --> 00:35:38,930 He had a wife. A new baby. 912 00:35:39,014 --> 00:35:41,057 I told hi, "This is your last chanc. 913 00:35:41,141 --> 00:35:43,810 You have to promise me" 914 00:35:43,893 --> 00:35:45,645 And he did. 915 00:35:45,729 --> 00:35:47,981 How long did he work for you? 916 00:35:48,106 --> 00:35:49,691 Nine months, maybe. 917 00:35:49,774 --> 00:35:52,235 Started drinking again on the job. 918 00:35:52,318 --> 00:35:53,570 He was a hazard. 919 00:35:53,653 --> 00:35:55,280 To himself and other. 920 00:35:55,363 --> 00:35:56,823 So you fired him. 921 00:35:56,948 --> 00:35:58,533 Had t. 922 00:35:58,658 --> 00:35:59,784 He made me a promise. 923 00:35:59,909 --> 00:36:01,828 I had to let him know I was serious this time. 924 00:36:01,953 --> 00:36:06,166 Did you give him any further assistance? 925 00:36:06,249 --> 00:36:07,667 I payed for rehab. 926 00:36:07,751 --> 00:36:10,086 Again. 30,000 a pop. 927 00:36:10,170 --> 00:36:12,672 Did you ever encourage him 928 00:36:12,756 --> 00:36:15,633 to get any other kind of counseling beyond rehab? 929 00:36:15,717 --> 00:36:17,344 Many times over the years. 930 00:36:17,469 --> 00:36:18,845 Told him I'd foot the bill for that too, 931 00:36:18,970 --> 00:36:19,888 no matter what. 932 00:36:20,013 --> 00:36:21,347 He always waved me off. 933 00:36:21,431 --> 00:36:23,850 Said he didn't need it. 934 00:36:23,933 --> 00:36:25,727 Did he know he had gone to a clinic, 935 00:36:25,810 --> 00:36:27,020 seeking help for depression? 936 00:36:27,103 --> 00:36:28,897 No, I didn't know. 937 00:36:29,022 --> 00:36:29,981 Why not? 938 00:36:30,065 --> 00:36:32,901 Why wouldn't he want you to know about that? 939 00:36:33,026 --> 00:36:36,404 Ashamed, maybe. 940 00:36:36,488 --> 00:36:37,822 That's how it is where we come from. 941 00:36:37,906 --> 00:36:40,367 It's a shameful thing to need help with... 942 00:36:40,450 --> 00:36:43,870 you know, your emotions. 943 00:36:45,580 --> 00:36:47,707 Your other brothers and sisters 944 00:36:47,791 --> 00:36:50,877 were scheduled to testify for the defense. 945 00:36:51,002 --> 00:36:53,296 Well, they still got a soft spot for him. 946 00:36:55,173 --> 00:36:56,216 But not you. 947 00:36:56,299 --> 00:36:58,218 I told Mr. Fallon. 948 00:36:58,343 --> 00:37:00,595 I couldn'. 949 00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:01,763 I couldn't stand p 950 00:37:01,846 --> 00:37:03,640 and swear. 951 00:37:03,723 --> 00:37:05,558 Not in good conscience. 952 00:37:24,828 --> 00:37:26,996 Did you think I was crazy, Jimmy? 953 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,082 You heard me. I thought you had troubles. 954 00:37:29,165 --> 00:37:29,958 We all did. 955 00:37:30,083 --> 00:37:34,087 Did I ever, uh... hear voices? 956 00:37:34,212 --> 00:37:36,089 Hallucinate? 957 00:37:36,172 --> 00:37:38,466 Not that I know, no. 958 00:37:38,591 --> 00:37:40,677 Did I ever try to commit suicide? 959 00:37:40,802 --> 00:37:42,971 Again, not that I know. 960 00:37:43,054 --> 00:37:45,724 Did I ever threaten to kill myself? 961 00:37:45,807 --> 00:37:47,892 Not until your marriage went sour. 962 00:37:47,976 --> 00:37:49,769 Exactly. 963 00:37:49,853 --> 00:37:53,773 So...when I made those threats, 964 00:37:53,857 --> 00:37:55,734 I mean, didn't you think that that was a sign 965 00:37:55,817 --> 00:37:56,818 that something was wrong? 966 00:37:56,901 --> 00:37:59,195 I didn't take them seriously. 967 00:37:59,279 --> 00:38:01,990 You didn't? Why not? 968 00:38:02,115 --> 00:38:05,285 You're all talk, Davey. 969 00:38:05,368 --> 00:38:07,162 You're a daydreame. 970 00:38:07,287 --> 00:38:08,580 Have ben your whole lif. 971 00:38:08,705 --> 00:38:11,291 So you didn't think I would go through with it. 972 00:38:11,374 --> 00:38:15,920 And you didn't, did you? 973 00:38:18,423 --> 00:38:20,258 Did you wish that I had? 974 00:38:23,511 --> 00:38:24,971 Come on. 975 00:38:28,516 --> 00:38:30,143 Did you? 976 00:38:30,268 --> 00:38:32,145 No. 977 00:38:32,270 --> 00:38:34,189 I wouldn't. 978 00:38:34,314 --> 00:38:35,899 Never. 979 00:38:40,362 --> 00:38:42,822 Wh-why not? 980 00:38:42,906 --> 00:38:44,199 I mean, that would be it, right? 981 00:38:44,282 --> 00:38:46,201 That would be the end of it. 982 00:38:46,326 --> 00:38:48,286 No more. 983 00:38:48,370 --> 00:38:50,997 No more Davey to worry about. 984 00:38:55,877 --> 00:38:58,171 You gave up on me, Jimmy. 985 00:38:58,296 --> 00:39:00,340 That's right. I did. 986 00:39:00,465 --> 00:39:01,966 You're right. 987 00:39:08,681 --> 00:39:11,601 You knew I needed help. 988 00:39:11,726 --> 00:39:13,728 When Maureen threw me out, who did I call? 989 00:39:13,853 --> 00:39:15,105 I called you. 990 00:39:15,230 --> 00:39:16,189 Yes, you did. 991 00:39:16,272 --> 00:39:17,732 I called you first. 992 00:39:17,816 --> 00:39:19,526 And what'd I say? 993 00:39:19,609 --> 00:39:21,569 You said... 994 00:39:21,695 --> 00:39:24,364 You were in desperate straits. 995 00:39:24,489 --> 00:39:28,535 I needed help. 996 00:39:28,660 --> 00:39:30,370 What'd you say? 997 00:39:30,495 --> 00:39:33,206 I said no. 998 00:39:33,289 --> 00:39:35,959 I'm done. Enough's enough. 999 00:39:36,042 --> 00:39:39,087 Yeah. 1000 00:39:39,212 --> 00:39:40,005 "Enough's enough." 1001 00:39:40,130 --> 00:39:41,548 I have my own family to take care of! 1002 00:39:41,631 --> 00:39:44,676 I'm your family, too, Jimmy! 1003 00:39:47,387 --> 00:39:49,556 No. 1004 00:39:49,681 --> 00:39:54,227 You're not. 1005 00:39:54,352 --> 00:39:57,313 Not anymore. 1006 00:40:10,201 --> 00:40:11,953 On the first count of the indictment, 1007 00:40:12,078 --> 00:40:14,289 Murder in the Second Degree, how do you find? 1008 00:40:14,372 --> 00:40:17,292 We find the defendant guilty. 1009 00:40:17,417 --> 00:40:19,461 On the second cout of the indictmen, 1010 00:40:19,586 --> 00:40:21,046 Murder n the Second Degre, 1011 00:40:21,129 --> 00:40:22,380 how do you fin? 1012 00:40:22,464 --> 00:40:24,299 We find the defendant guilty. 1013 00:40:24,424 --> 00:40:26,134 On the third cout of the indictmen, 1014 00:40:26,217 --> 00:40:28,553 Murder in the Second Degre, how do you fin? 1015 00:40:28,636 --> 00:40:31,139 We find the defendant guilty. 1016 00:40:31,264 --> 00:40:32,599 On the fourth cout of the indictmen, 1017 00:40:32,682 --> 00:40:34,267 Murder in the Second Degree... 1018 00:40:34,351 --> 00:40:37,020 You could still recommend that Judge Bradley 1019 00:40:37,103 --> 00:40:38,480 sentence him concurrently. 1020 00:40:38,605 --> 00:40:40,398 12 life sentences. That's what he deserves. 1021 00:40:40,482 --> 00:40:41,316 I don't disagree. 1022 00:40:41,399 --> 00:40:43,652 You agree? 1023 00:40:43,735 --> 00:40:45,403 He's criminally responsible? 1024 00:40:47,781 --> 00:40:50,492 He did a terrible thing. 1025 00:40:50,575 --> 00:40:52,952 But in a way, he was right. 1026 00:40:53,036 --> 00:40:55,997 It could have been averted. 1027 00:40:56,122 --> 00:40:59,668 Billions for prisons, no health care. 1028 00:40:59,793 --> 00:41:01,461 I don't make social policy. 1029 00:41:01,586 --> 00:41:03,296 No. 1030 00:41:03,421 --> 00:41:07,092 You just have to clean up after those who do. 1031 00:41:07,175 --> 00:41:10,136 Captioning by Brian at CaptionMax www.captionmax.com 72684

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