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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,921 --> 00:00:06,840 In the criminal justice system, 2 00:00:06,965 --> 00:00:07,841 the people are represented 3 00:00:07,924 --> 00:00:08,967 by two separate, 4 00:00:09,050 --> 00:00:11,010 yet equally important groups-- 5 00:00:11,094 --> 00:00:12,721 the police who investigate crime 6 00:00:12,846 --> 00:00:15,473 and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. 7 00:00:15,557 --> 00:00:17,183 These are their stories. 8 00:00:18,518 --> 00:00:21,396 Freezing my ass off for a nicotine hit, it's pathetic. 9 00:00:22,981 --> 00:00:25,525 Come over to my place. 10 00:00:25,650 --> 00:00:29,154 Uh-uh. Too dangerous. 11 00:00:29,237 --> 00:00:32,490 What are you afraid of? One drink? 12 00:00:32,574 --> 00:00:35,285 I really think we ought to take it slow. 13 00:00:35,368 --> 00:00:36,828 I won't put the moves on you. 14 00:00:36,911 --> 00:00:37,871 Promise. 15 00:00:37,996 --> 00:00:39,956 Unless... you want me to. 16 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:40,999 You see, that's exactly-- 17 00:00:43,376 --> 00:00:44,210 Oh, my God. 18 00:00:44,294 --> 00:00:46,338 That man shot himself. 19 00:00:46,421 --> 00:00:47,714 Kids that saw it happen 20 00:00:47,797 --> 00:00:49,382 said they were on a first date. 21 00:00:49,466 --> 00:00:50,216 Dinner and a show? 22 00:00:50,341 --> 00:00:51,593 Not exactly what they had in mind. 23 00:00:51,718 --> 00:00:52,635 What about the victim? 24 00:00:52,719 --> 00:00:53,845 On his way to Bellevue. 25 00:00:53,928 --> 00:00:55,055 No, is he likely? 26 00:00:55,138 --> 00:00:56,389 EMS said he was still breathing. 27 00:00:56,514 --> 00:00:59,559 If he's not D.O.A., he's a house plant. 28 00:00:59,642 --> 00:01:01,895 Nine millimeter. 29 00:01:02,020 --> 00:01:03,104 There's the shell casing. 30 00:01:03,229 --> 00:01:04,397 What time did this go down? 31 00:01:04,522 --> 00:01:05,899 Witnesses said just after 11:00. 32 00:01:05,982 --> 00:01:07,400 He called somebody at 10:59. 33 00:01:07,525 --> 00:01:09,069 Get this stuff vouchered, would you? 34 00:01:09,152 --> 00:01:12,280 He have any I.D.? 35 00:01:12,405 --> 00:01:14,407 Richard Ranson. 28 years old. 36 00:01:14,491 --> 00:01:16,951 Hello? Hi, Ma'am, I'm sorry to call you so late. 37 00:01:17,077 --> 00:01:17,869 This is Detective Green, 38 00:01:17,952 --> 00:01:19,454 New York City Police Department. 39 00:01:19,537 --> 00:01:22,415 Yeah, may I ask who I'm speaking to? 40 00:01:22,540 --> 00:01:26,961 Okay, do you know a Richard Ranson? 41 00:01:27,087 --> 00:01:28,880 Uh...yeah, I understand. 42 00:01:28,963 --> 00:01:30,256 Wife? 43 00:01:30,340 --> 00:01:31,299 Yea, they're separate. 44 00:01:31,424 --> 00:01:33,385 That figures. Family trouble. 45 00:01:33,510 --> 00:01:36,304 He's on his way to Bellevue, Ma'am. 46 00:01:36,429 --> 00:01:38,807 Self-inflicted gunshot wound. 47 00:01:38,932 --> 00:01:40,308 Uh, we don't know. We don't know. 48 00:01:40,392 --> 00:01:43,603 We're on our way there now. 49 00:01:43,728 --> 00:01:44,646 'Scuse me? 50 00:01:44,771 --> 00:01:47,232 Do you hae an addres? 51 00:01:47,357 --> 00:01:49,651 She thinks he may have killed somebody else. 52 00:01:49,734 --> 00:01:52,237 You're kidding me. Where? 53 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,322 Uh-huh? 54 00:01:54,447 --> 00:01:55,365 Over there. 55 00:02:04,916 --> 00:02:08,420 I'm assuming those are his prints on the knife. 56 00:02:08,503 --> 00:02:10,463 And assuming he dies, it'd be a murder-suicide. 57 00:02:10,547 --> 00:02:11,965 He shot himself in the head and kept breathing. 58 00:02:12,048 --> 00:02:13,258 He must have flinched. 59 00:02:13,341 --> 00:02:15,593 Room's registered to a Richard Ranson. 60 00:02:15,677 --> 00:02:17,012 Thank you. 61 00:02:17,137 --> 00:02:19,347 New York license. Maryann Miller. 62 00:02:19,431 --> 00:02:23,018 Sullivan Street. She's...29? 63 00:02:23,101 --> 00:02:26,646 That's a hard 29. 64 00:02:26,771 --> 00:02:29,149 Looks more like 39 to me. 65 00:02:29,232 --> 00:02:31,318 Look at the left side of her arm and face. 66 00:02:31,401 --> 00:02:33,528 Yeah, she's got a suntan like she been driving. 67 00:02:33,653 --> 00:02:36,364 Not in New York. 68 00:02:36,448 --> 00:02:38,491 Not this time of the year. 69 00:03:26,206 --> 00:03:27,415 's a lucky. 70 00:03:27,499 --> 00:03:30,085 Bullet creased his skull, exited the scalp. 71 00:03:30,168 --> 00:03:32,045 That's because he wasn't fully committed. 72 00:03:32,128 --> 00:03:33,880 Excuse me? 73 00:03:33,963 --> 00:03:35,340 To dying. 74 00:03:35,423 --> 00:03:37,926 A wound like that means that you turned the gun away 75 00:03:38,009 --> 00:03:39,469 at the last possible second. 76 00:03:39,552 --> 00:03:41,096 I see. 77 00:03:41,179 --> 00:03:42,097 Well, he has a concussion, 78 00:03:42,180 --> 00:03:44,015 a hairline skull fracture. 79 00:03:44,099 --> 00:03:45,475 So it sounds like he's gonna make it. 80 00:03:45,558 --> 00:03:47,102 Barring unforeseen complications, 81 00:03:47,185 --> 00:03:49,104 he should end up with no more than 82 00:03:49,187 --> 00:03:51,398 a bad headache, temporary double vision. 83 00:03:51,523 --> 00:03:52,232 Down the road, 84 00:03:52,357 --> 00:03:53,858 maybe a little cosmetic surgery. 85 00:03:53,984 --> 00:03:56,111 Well, we're gonna need to talk to him at some point. 86 00:03:56,236 --> 00:03:58,530 It's gonna be a day or two. I'll let you know. 87 00:03:58,613 --> 00:03:59,531 She's in here. 88 00:03:59,656 --> 00:04:02,075 Thanks. 89 00:04:02,158 --> 00:04:04,077 Mrs. Ranson? 90 00:04:04,202 --> 00:04:05,036 Detective Green. 91 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:06,788 This is my partner, Detective Fontana. 92 00:04:06,913 --> 00:04:07,914 Hi. 93 00:04:08,039 --> 00:04:11,001 Did you go to the hotel? 94 00:04:11,126 --> 00:04:14,003 Oh, my God. 95 00:04:14,129 --> 00:04:16,589 Richard, what have you done? 96 00:04:16,673 --> 00:04:18,550 Who? Do you know? 97 00:04:18,675 --> 00:04:20,593 Well, we were hoping that you might be able 98 00:04:20,719 --> 00:04:21,469 to help us with that. 99 00:04:21,594 --> 00:04:24,556 The victim was... in her 30s. 100 00:04:24,639 --> 00:04:26,099 Pretty, brunette. 101 00:04:26,224 --> 00:04:30,645 In her 30s? 102 00:04:30,770 --> 00:04:31,688 Maryanne Miller. 103 00:04:31,771 --> 00:04:33,064 No, I... 104 00:04:33,148 --> 00:04:34,149 I don't know her. 105 00:04:34,274 --> 00:04:35,150 Probably from out of tow. 106 00:04:35,233 --> 00:04:36,693 Well, you have her license. Can't you just-- 107 00:04:36,818 --> 00:04:37,652 It's a fak. 108 00:04:37,694 --> 00:04:40,905 There's no such person. No such address. 109 00:04:41,031 --> 00:04:42,198 Mrs. Ranso, 110 00:04:42,282 --> 00:04:44,451 what made you send us to your husband's hotel room? 111 00:04:44,576 --> 00:04:45,618 He had left e a messag. 112 00:04:45,744 --> 00:04:49,080 What was the message? 113 00:04:49,164 --> 00:04:50,165 He said he had finally done 114 00:04:50,248 --> 00:04:51,416 what he needed to do his whole life. 115 00:04:51,541 --> 00:04:55,170 And it was the hardest thing he'd ever done. 116 00:04:55,253 --> 00:04:57,130 And why would that mean he would kill somebody? 117 00:04:57,255 --> 00:04:59,174 He had been talking about it for months. 118 00:04:59,257 --> 00:05:02,052 About killing someon? 119 00:05:02,177 --> 00:05:04,346 Anyone in particular? 120 00:05:07,098 --> 00:05:09,392 His mother. 121 00:05:11,311 --> 00:05:13,188 Richard grew up in a cult. 122 00:05:13,271 --> 00:05:16,024 I didn't know they still had cults. 123 00:05:16,149 --> 00:05:18,985 His mother, Mrs. Shelby, 124 00:05:19,069 --> 00:05:20,403 is the leader. 125 00:05:20,487 --> 00:05:23,239 The founder. She's the queen bee. 126 00:05:23,365 --> 00:05:24,407 Even the members call her Mother. 127 00:05:24,532 --> 00:05:25,408 She live in the city? 128 00:05:25,533 --> 00:05:27,243 They have branches in Mexico and Asia, 129 00:05:27,327 --> 00:05:29,162 and she's usualy out of the countr. 130 00:05:29,287 --> 00:05:30,163 What about his father? 131 00:05:30,246 --> 00:05:32,499 Who knows? 132 00:05:32,582 --> 00:05:34,501 The Children of the Divine-- What? 133 00:05:34,626 --> 00:05:38,088 That's what they call this thing? 134 00:05:38,171 --> 00:05:39,130 It was founded in the '60s. 135 00:05:39,214 --> 00:05:43,134 They believed in free love, drugs, 136 00:05:43,218 --> 00:05:44,177 salvation through sex, 137 00:05:44,260 --> 00:05:45,345 enlightenment through ecstasy. 138 00:05:45,470 --> 00:05:49,265 Well, there was a lot of that going on back then. 139 00:05:49,391 --> 00:05:51,059 Richard was a product of what they called 140 00:05:51,142 --> 00:05:53,228 a "soul seduction." 141 00:05:53,311 --> 00:05:54,187 The female members would go out 142 00:05:54,312 --> 00:05:56,398 and try to seduce men to get them to join. 143 00:05:56,481 --> 00:05:58,274 So Richard's father took the sample, 144 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,151 but he didn't buy the package. 145 00:06:00,235 --> 00:06:01,528 It was a one-night stand. 146 00:06:01,611 --> 00:06:03,446 I don't think he ever met him. 147 00:06:03,571 --> 00:06:05,323 I can understand why Richard resents his mother, 148 00:06:05,407 --> 00:06:06,324 but why kill her? 149 00:06:06,449 --> 00:06:08,994 The Children of the Divine 150 00:06:09,077 --> 00:06:11,496 practice what they called the sexualization of children. 151 00:06:13,415 --> 00:06:15,166 That doesn't sound good. 152 00:06:15,291 --> 00:06:17,168 Adults had sex with the children. 153 00:06:17,293 --> 00:06:20,088 Children had sex with each other... 154 00:06:20,171 --> 00:06:23,216 while their parents watched. 155 00:06:23,341 --> 00:06:25,260 They say it was natural. 156 00:06:25,343 --> 00:06:27,262 It's what God intended in the Garden of Eden. 157 00:06:27,345 --> 00:06:29,097 And all this happened to Richard. 158 00:06:29,222 --> 00:06:30,807 Big tim. 159 00:06:30,932 --> 00:06:32,183 He was the Crown Prince. 160 00:06:32,267 --> 00:06:33,435 The Chosen One. 161 00:06:33,518 --> 00:06:34,686 Mother's successor. 162 00:06:34,769 --> 00:06:36,604 Oh, but Richard didn't buy into that. 163 00:06:36,688 --> 00:06:37,480 He hated it. 164 00:06:37,564 --> 00:06:41,484 Couldn't wait to get out. 165 00:06:41,568 --> 00:06:44,404 He left when he was 19. He escaped, really. 166 00:06:44,487 --> 00:06:47,240 How long have you two been married? 167 00:06:47,324 --> 00:06:48,491 A year and a hal. 168 00:06:50,285 --> 00:06:53,413 I thought we were gonna make it. 169 00:06:53,538 --> 00:06:55,248 What happened? 170 00:06:55,331 --> 00:06:56,124 About six months ago, 171 00:06:56,249 --> 00:06:58,376 he got really angry and depressed. 172 00:06:58,460 --> 00:06:59,377 Went into a complete tailspin. 173 00:06:59,461 --> 00:07:00,879 You know why? 174 00:07:00,962 --> 00:07:02,380 He wouldn't tell m. 175 00:07:03,757 --> 00:07:06,634 Then two weeks ago, he hit rock bottom. 176 00:07:06,718 --> 00:07:11,723 He moved out, and he said it'd be the best for both of us. 177 00:07:11,848 --> 00:07:14,225 Taking a human life was the hardest thing 178 00:07:14,309 --> 00:07:16,519 I've ever done. 179 00:07:16,603 --> 00:07:18,271 Not that it made any difference. 180 00:07:18,355 --> 00:07:20,482 I'll never escape the past. 181 00:07:20,565 --> 00:07:22,317 I know that now. 182 00:07:22,442 --> 00:07:25,153 Thanks...for...trying. 183 00:07:25,278 --> 00:07:27,781 I love you. 184 00:07:27,906 --> 00:07:30,158 Then he shot himself. 185 00:07:30,241 --> 00:07:32,243 "I'll never escape the past." 186 00:07:32,369 --> 00:07:34,245 There's a website for survivors, 187 00:07:34,329 --> 00:07:35,330 cult members who've walked away, 188 00:07:35,413 --> 00:07:36,331 and they all tell the same story. 189 00:07:36,414 --> 00:07:38,208 Physical abus, sexual abuse- 190 00:07:38,291 --> 00:07:39,668 Drug overdoses, suicides. 191 00:07:39,751 --> 00:07:43,254 Parents who'd do this to their own children. 192 00:07:43,380 --> 00:07:44,381 And the kids who rebelled? 193 00:07:44,464 --> 00:07:45,840 They'd get sent to the Philippines 194 00:07:45,924 --> 00:07:49,344 to these "victory camps," where they're disciplined-- 195 00:07:49,427 --> 00:07:51,179 punished--until they get their heads straight. 196 00:07:51,262 --> 00:07:53,390 Do we have any idea 197 00:07:53,473 --> 00:07:54,849 why he killed this Maryanne Miller? 198 00:07:54,974 --> 00:07:57,435 We're thinking because of the phony identification 199 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,271 that she has some connection with the cult. 200 00:08:00,397 --> 00:08:02,148 They're into fake names, passports. 201 00:08:02,273 --> 00:08:04,192 So they can stay one step ahead of the law. 202 00:08:04,275 --> 00:08:05,360 What about Mr. Ranson? 203 00:08:05,443 --> 00:08:07,612 We won't be able to get a crack at him 204 00:08:07,696 --> 00:08:09,155 for the next couple of days. 205 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:10,365 He worked at a travel agency. 206 00:08:10,448 --> 00:08:12,367 We were gonna go check out his office. 207 00:08:12,450 --> 00:08:13,576 All right. 208 00:08:17,330 --> 00:08:19,332 Rich was always easy to get along with. 209 00:08:19,416 --> 00:08:20,375 And then...I don't know. 210 00:08:20,458 --> 00:08:22,585 Last six months or so, he just stopped talking, 211 00:08:22,711 --> 00:08:24,713 stopped going out for lunch with the rest of us. 212 00:08:24,838 --> 00:08:25,797 It was dramatic. 213 00:08:25,922 --> 00:08:27,882 What about the last couple of weeks or so? 214 00:08:27,966 --> 00:08:29,509 Beyond blue. 215 00:08:29,634 --> 00:08:31,261 His wife said he moved out. 216 00:08:32,429 --> 00:08:34,180 God, that explains it. 217 00:08:34,264 --> 00:08:35,348 I thought it was the phone call. 218 00:08:35,473 --> 00:08:37,350 What phone call? 219 00:08:37,475 --> 00:08:38,351 Some woman. 220 00:08:38,476 --> 00:08:40,478 Uh, Richie picked up. 221 00:08:40,562 --> 00:08:42,480 I swear, he turned white, he heard who it was, 222 00:08:42,605 --> 00:08:44,149 like he was talking to a ghost. 223 00:08:44,274 --> 00:08:45,358 He say anything about it? 224 00:08:45,483 --> 00:08:46,484 Just rushed out of here. 225 00:08:46,609 --> 00:08:47,736 Came back a couple hours later, 226 00:08:47,861 --> 00:08:49,237 he was a wreck. 227 00:08:49,362 --> 00:08:50,238 Nervous, twitchy. 228 00:08:50,322 --> 00:08:51,239 Hey, when did that phone call happen? 229 00:08:51,364 --> 00:08:52,323 Do you remember? 230 00:08:52,407 --> 00:08:53,491 Couple weeks ago, maybe. 231 00:08:53,575 --> 00:08:56,786 The day after this really complicated charter 232 00:08:56,870 --> 00:08:58,413 to Lithuania, that was a Monday. 233 00:08:58,496 --> 00:08:59,372 So it wasn't last Tuesday, 234 00:08:59,456 --> 00:09:00,915 but the Tuesday before that. 235 00:09:00,999 --> 00:09:04,127 Hey. Look at this. 236 00:09:04,252 --> 00:09:05,378 Look how it's written. 237 00:09:05,503 --> 00:09:07,380 That's the dy of that phone cal. 238 00:09:07,464 --> 00:09:08,340 Looks a little shaky. 239 00:09:08,465 --> 00:09:10,508 "Empire ST" Empire Street? 240 00:09:12,344 --> 00:09:14,429 We're gonna borrow this stuff. 241 00:09:14,554 --> 00:09:17,849 Yeah. Seen him a couple of times. 242 00:09:17,932 --> 00:09:18,933 Came by to see her. 243 00:09:19,017 --> 00:09:20,226 Who's her? 244 00:09:20,310 --> 00:09:21,436 Miss Porter. 245 00:09:21,561 --> 00:09:22,729 Miss Porter have a first name? 246 00:09:22,854 --> 00:09:23,605 Sunny. 247 00:09:23,647 --> 00:09:26,399 Real California hippie-dippy type. 248 00:09:26,524 --> 00:09:27,317 Blonde hair, 249 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:28,985 always complaining about the heat. 250 00:09:29,110 --> 00:09:30,445 As in not enough of it. 251 00:09:30,528 --> 00:09:31,446 If you find her, let us know. 252 00:09:31,571 --> 00:09:33,406 She still owes us for her last three days. 253 00:09:33,490 --> 00:09:35,283 Do you have her address? 254 00:09:35,408 --> 00:09:36,409 Yeah, but I assume it's phony. 255 00:09:36,534 --> 00:09:37,410 The phone number was. 256 00:09:37,535 --> 00:09:38,453 We still have her bag. 257 00:09:38,536 --> 00:09:40,413 Suitcase. 258 00:09:40,538 --> 00:09:42,791 And being the good citizen that you are, 259 00:09:42,916 --> 00:09:44,959 you're gonna turn over the suitcase to us 260 00:09:45,043 --> 00:09:46,044 as found property, 261 00:09:46,127 --> 00:09:47,545 am I correct, si? 262 00:09:47,629 --> 00:09:49,547 Yeah, the tag on the bg 263 00:09:49,631 --> 00:09:52,884 says she flew in from San Francisco. 264 00:09:53,009 --> 00:09:54,427 Oh, it looks like Sunny and Richard 265 00:09:54,552 --> 00:09:57,681 were more than friends. 266 00:09:57,764 --> 00:09:58,556 Whoa. 267 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,433 "Christmas '92. Manzanillo." 268 00:10:00,558 --> 00:10:01,393 That's Mexico. 269 00:10:01,518 --> 00:10:03,728 Yeah? 270 00:10:03,812 --> 00:10:05,563 Uh-huh? 271 00:10:05,647 --> 00:10:07,482 Okay. Thank you. 272 00:10:07,565 --> 00:10:09,776 Sunshine Porter flew one way 273 00:10:09,859 --> 00:10:11,319 from San Francisco to Newark. 274 00:10:11,403 --> 00:10:13,530 She got here the day after Richard got that phone call, 275 00:10:13,655 --> 00:10:14,739 and she checked in the same day 276 00:10:14,864 --> 00:10:16,825 at the Empire State Hotel. 277 00:10:16,908 --> 00:10:18,451 Sunshine? 278 00:10:18,535 --> 00:10:20,286 This whole thing is starting to sound like 279 00:10:20,412 --> 00:10:22,580 a bad acid flashback from the '60s. 280 00:10:22,706 --> 00:10:24,791 And guess who sold her the ticket? 281 00:10:24,916 --> 00:10:26,751 The Travel Planet. Richard Ranson. 282 00:10:29,754 --> 00:10:31,047 You sure you don't recognize her? 283 00:10:31,131 --> 00:10:32,424 No, I'm positive. 284 00:10:32,507 --> 00:10:33,550 Well, this photo would have been taken, 285 00:10:33,633 --> 00:10:35,593 like, 10 or 12 years ago. 286 00:10:35,677 --> 00:10:37,429 What was her connection to Richard? 287 00:10:37,554 --> 00:10:38,680 We don't know ye. 288 00:10:38,763 --> 00:10:40,432 What makes you think there was one? 289 00:10:40,515 --> 00:10:42,517 Well, Richard was in the picture with her. 290 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:43,685 We cropped him out. 291 00:10:43,810 --> 00:10:44,894 Why? 292 00:10:44,978 --> 00:10:47,814 We wanted to show them separately. 293 00:10:47,939 --> 00:10:51,484 What were they doing in the photograph? 294 00:10:51,609 --> 00:10:53,361 Oh, this must have been 295 00:10:53,445 --> 00:10:55,655 before he left the cult, so... 296 00:10:55,739 --> 00:10:56,614 Was she a member too? 297 00:10:56,698 --> 00:10:58,283 We don't know. 298 00:11:00,869 --> 00:11:03,496 She looks about 13, 14. 299 00:11:03,580 --> 00:11:04,497 They were just kids. 300 00:11:04,581 --> 00:11:06,541 It wasn't their fault. 301 00:11:06,666 --> 00:11:08,001 Yeah, we know. 302 00:11:10,420 --> 00:11:11,629 Not again. 303 00:11:12,547 --> 00:11:15,884 Are you gonna answer it? 304 00:11:19,012 --> 00:11:20,638 Hello? 305 00:11:20,722 --> 00:11:22,140 These hang-ups are driving me crazy. 306 00:11:22,223 --> 00:11:24,809 When did they start? 307 00:11:27,270 --> 00:11:28,355 Since everything happened. 308 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:29,356 When that happen, 309 00:11:29,397 --> 00:11:32,025 hang up, pick up again, and dial star 57. 310 00:11:32,150 --> 00:11:33,068 We can trace the call. 311 00:11:35,695 --> 00:11:37,072 Open up. It's the Police. 312 00:11:37,197 --> 00:11:38,114 Who is i? 313 00:11:38,198 --> 00:11:39,658 I said, it's the Police. 314 00:11:39,741 --> 00:11:40,909 How do I knw you're really the Polic? 315 00:11:41,034 --> 00:11:42,660 Read the badge, Einstein. What's it say? 316 00:11:42,786 --> 00:11:43,787 Could be fak. 317 00:11:43,870 --> 00:11:44,913 Yeah, it could be, but it's not. 318 00:11:44,996 --> 00:11:48,667 Now open up or we're gonna kick the door in. 319 00:11:49,709 --> 00:11:50,502 Where's Sunshine Porter? 320 00:11:50,585 --> 00:11:51,503 She's not here. 321 00:11:51,586 --> 00:11:52,545 Where did she go? 322 00:11:52,629 --> 00:11:53,672 I don't know. 323 00:11:53,797 --> 00:11:55,048 What's your nam? 324 00:11:55,131 --> 00:11:55,965 Jared. Jared Weston. 325 00:11:56,007 --> 00:11:57,592 All right, come on. Give me your I.D. 326 00:11:57,676 --> 00:11:58,760 Give me some I.D. Come on! 327 00:12:04,599 --> 00:12:08,103 Can I ask you a question? It depends. 328 00:12:08,186 --> 00:12:09,104 Is he gonna be okay? 329 00:12:09,229 --> 00:12:10,730 Who? 330 00:12:10,855 --> 00:12:12,607 Daniel. Who's Daniel? 331 00:12:12,732 --> 00:12:15,026 You know, Richard Ranson. 332 00:12:15,151 --> 00:12:17,404 The guy who shot himself and killed that lady. 333 00:12:17,529 --> 00:12:19,948 That's why you're here, isn't it? 334 00:12:20,031 --> 00:12:22,200 Why do you call him Daniel? 335 00:12:22,283 --> 00:12:23,994 That's how we knew him. 336 00:12:24,077 --> 00:12:26,413 Growing up, that was his name before he left 337 00:12:26,538 --> 00:12:28,581 The Childrn of the Divin. 338 00:12:28,707 --> 00:12:29,791 Are you Sunshine Porter? 339 00:12:29,916 --> 00:12:32,377 Yes. 340 00:12:32,502 --> 00:12:35,213 She wasn't hiding from you. 341 00:12:35,338 --> 00:12:37,632 We thought Mother sent you. 342 00:12:39,718 --> 00:12:41,678 Mrs. Shelby? 343 00:12:41,761 --> 00:12:42,971 Why are you afraid of her? 344 00:12:43,054 --> 00:12:45,724 We just don't want her to know where we are. 345 00:12:45,807 --> 00:12:47,642 Were you in this cult with Daniel? 346 00:12:47,726 --> 00:12:49,811 After Daniel left, we left. 347 00:12:49,894 --> 00:12:52,647 What was your relationship with Daniel? 348 00:12:54,816 --> 00:12:56,818 I'm his sister. 349 00:13:03,408 --> 00:13:05,118 e 350 00:13:05,201 --> 00:13:07,579 and hang up? 351 00:13:07,662 --> 00:13:10,623 I wanted to apologize to his wife. 352 00:13:10,707 --> 00:13:14,502 But I didn't know what to say. 353 00:13:14,627 --> 00:13:17,255 And the woman he killed... 354 00:13:17,339 --> 00:13:20,967 Dolores... 355 00:13:21,092 --> 00:13:24,637 was our Nanny. 356 00:13:24,763 --> 00:13:27,349 The Nannies were these girls 357 00:13:27,474 --> 00:13:30,977 who took care of us most of the time. 358 00:13:33,229 --> 00:13:34,022 They had sex with us, 359 00:13:34,064 --> 00:13:37,442 and got us to have sex with each other. 360 00:13:40,737 --> 00:13:44,157 And your mother condoned all of this? 361 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:45,325 She believed in it. 362 00:13:45,408 --> 00:13:48,119 It's written in the teachings. 363 00:13:48,203 --> 00:13:49,829 God is love, 364 00:13:49,954 --> 00:13:53,958 and the purest form of love is sex. 365 00:13:54,042 --> 00:13:57,962 So...it's all in The Book of Daniel. 366 00:13:58,046 --> 00:14:00,548 What's The Book of Daniel? Mother wrote it. 367 00:14:00,632 --> 00:14:04,344 It tells you how to raise a child. 368 00:14:04,469 --> 00:14:07,097 By having sex with them. 369 00:14:15,188 --> 00:14:17,982 A couple of weeks ago, you called your brother. 370 00:14:18,066 --> 00:14:20,402 I heard Mother was gonna be in New York 371 00:14:20,527 --> 00:14:23,321 for a meeting with some of the American Elders. 372 00:14:23,405 --> 00:14:26,241 I thought, if Daniel could just confront her 373 00:14:26,366 --> 00:14:29,202 about what happened when he was a kid, 374 00:14:29,285 --> 00:14:30,412 maybe he could move on 375 00:14:30,537 --> 00:14:32,956 and get over i. 376 00:14:33,039 --> 00:14:35,000 So you told him about the meeting. 377 00:14:35,083 --> 00:14:37,043 Yeah...but I didn't know where it was gonna be, 378 00:14:37,168 --> 00:14:39,921 so he asked me to put him in touch with Dolores. 379 00:14:40,046 --> 00:14:43,216 He thought he could get to your mother 380 00:14:43,341 --> 00:14:44,718 through Dolores. 381 00:14:44,843 --> 00:14:50,432 I guess Dolores wouldn't tell him where Mother was. 382 00:14:50,557 --> 00:14:54,561 I was just trying to help. 383 00:14:54,644 --> 00:14:57,731 I didn't know he would do what he did. 384 00:15:00,692 --> 00:15:03,320 Dolores Diamond, 40, 385 00:15:03,403 --> 00:15:05,196 been living in Mexico City. 386 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,408 FBI's had a file on her for more than a decade, 387 00:15:08,491 --> 00:15:10,118 along with her boss, Mrs. Shelby, 388 00:15:10,243 --> 00:15:11,995 and the rest of her inner circle. 389 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:13,997 What are the Feds' interest in these people? 390 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,374 International investigation, child abuse. 391 00:15:16,458 --> 00:15:18,293 Argentina, Mexico, Belgium. 392 00:15:18,376 --> 00:15:19,294 Any luc? 393 00:15:19,336 --> 00:15:21,796 A few arrests, a few trials, no convictions. 394 00:15:21,921 --> 00:15:24,382 Well, you'd think with all those survivor testimonies 395 00:15:24,466 --> 00:15:26,092 on the website, they'd be able to prosecute. 396 00:15:26,176 --> 00:15:27,510 Well, they claimed they cleaned up their act 397 00:15:27,594 --> 00:15:29,054 a long time ago, 398 00:15:29,137 --> 00:15:31,097 but no one's been able to find the cult leaders 399 00:15:31,222 --> 00:15:32,766 long enough to prosecute them. 400 00:15:32,849 --> 00:15:34,434 Well, I'd lie to spend an hor 401 00:15:34,559 --> 00:15:36,394 with one of the little creeps. 402 00:15:36,478 --> 00:15:38,229 I'd teach him a whole new meaning 403 00:15:38,313 --> 00:15:39,397 to the expression, "see the light." 404 00:15:39,481 --> 00:15:41,441 Hospital calle. 405 00:15:41,524 --> 00:15:44,194 Said your boy's well enough to talk. 406 00:15:47,322 --> 00:15:48,657 I did it. 407 00:15:48,740 --> 00:15:52,327 I killed Dolores. 408 00:15:52,452 --> 00:15:55,080 Not that you need my confession. 409 00:15:55,205 --> 00:15:56,498 We'll read yu your right. 410 00:15:56,581 --> 00:15:58,625 I waive my rights. 411 00:15:58,708 --> 00:16:00,293 Let 'em do whatever they want to me. 412 00:16:00,377 --> 00:16:01,336 Throw away the key, 413 00:16:01,461 --> 00:16:03,463 lethal injection. 414 00:16:03,588 --> 00:16:04,673 Well, if you're looking for help 415 00:16:04,798 --> 00:16:06,716 from the state of New York to finish the job, 416 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:07,842 you're out of luc. 417 00:16:07,967 --> 00:16:09,135 You should hae done her in Texa. 418 00:16:09,219 --> 00:16:11,513 Whatever. 419 00:16:11,638 --> 00:16:14,265 Why did you kill Dolores? 420 00:16:14,349 --> 00:16:15,475 She deserved it. 421 00:16:15,558 --> 00:16:19,771 They all do. 422 00:16:19,854 --> 00:16:23,149 You know how many suicides there have been... 423 00:16:23,233 --> 00:16:26,861 among the children who grew up in this... 424 00:16:26,986 --> 00:16:28,321 abomination? 425 00:16:28,446 --> 00:16:30,615 How many drug overdoses? 426 00:16:30,699 --> 00:16:33,618 And that's not counting the addicts and the alcoholics, 427 00:16:33,702 --> 00:16:34,619 the walking wounded 428 00:16:34,703 --> 00:16:37,122 and the living dead. 429 00:16:37,205 --> 00:16:40,750 We know what went on in the cult...Daniel. 430 00:16:42,460 --> 00:16:45,004 Then you know why I did it. 431 00:16:45,130 --> 00:16:48,258 You know what the worst thing was? 432 00:16:50,343 --> 00:16:53,596 Even as she was about to die... 433 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,306 she still didn't get it. 434 00:16:55,390 --> 00:16:56,850 Dolores? 435 00:16:56,975 --> 00:16:58,226 She's dying. 436 00:16:58,309 --> 00:17:02,022 As she's bleeding to death, 437 00:17:02,147 --> 00:17:06,401 she looks me in the eye and says, "Why? 438 00:17:06,484 --> 00:17:11,406 Why, Daniel, why?" 439 00:17:11,531 --> 00:17:15,326 She still doesn't understand she's ever done anything wrong. 440 00:17:19,581 --> 00:17:22,584 Does he really deserve Murder Two? 441 00:17:22,709 --> 00:17:25,211 I could live with Man One. 442 00:17:25,295 --> 00:17:27,464 What if we could use Richard to get at his mother? 443 00:17:27,547 --> 00:17:29,674 She's really the culpable party here. 444 00:17:29,758 --> 00:17:32,469 I agree, but for what? 445 00:17:32,552 --> 00:17:34,220 I've been going over his file. 446 00:17:34,346 --> 00:17:36,389 His grandparents were awarded custody of Richard 447 00:17:36,473 --> 00:17:37,557 when he was a toddler. 448 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,267 They were his legal guardians? 449 00:17:39,392 --> 00:17:40,352 He was living with them 450 00:17:40,435 --> 00:17:41,603 when Mrs. Shelby abducted him. 451 00:17:41,728 --> 00:17:42,604 Did they file a complaint? 452 00:17:42,687 --> 00:17:43,688 They did. 453 00:17:43,813 --> 00:17:45,273 But she took him to Mexico, 454 00:17:45,398 --> 00:17:47,108 and they never saw him again. 455 00:17:47,192 --> 00:17:48,652 That could be construed as kidnapping. 456 00:17:48,735 --> 00:17:49,819 I thought so. 457 00:17:49,903 --> 00:17:51,571 It could also be construed 458 00:17:51,654 --> 00:17:52,906 as a custody dispute. 459 00:17:53,031 --> 00:17:55,575 Not to mention the statute of limitations. 460 00:17:55,659 --> 00:17:56,951 If he was taken for the purpose 461 00:17:57,077 --> 00:17:58,495 of performing a sexual act, that's a class A felony. 462 00:17:58,578 --> 00:17:59,496 No statute of limitations. 463 00:17:59,579 --> 00:18:02,540 Kidnapping involving a parent is tricky. 464 00:18:02,624 --> 00:18:04,292 Under New York law, 465 00:18:04,417 --> 00:18:06,753 it's an affirmative defense if the defendant's a relative, 466 00:18:06,878 --> 00:18:08,296 and the reason for the abduction 467 00:18:08,380 --> 00:18:09,422 is simply to assume control. 468 00:18:09,506 --> 00:18:11,174 So we have to prove Richard 469 00:18:11,257 --> 00:18:13,426 was abducted for sexual purposes. 470 00:18:13,510 --> 00:18:14,552 Without corroboration? 471 00:18:14,636 --> 00:18:16,429 We'd have his sister's testimony. 472 00:18:16,554 --> 00:18:20,725 We'd have to find Mrs. Shelby first. 473 00:18:20,809 --> 00:18:23,520 I'm just a journeyman lawyer on retainer. 474 00:18:23,603 --> 00:18:25,271 I handle the more mundane legal matters 475 00:18:25,397 --> 00:18:27,440 for Mrs. Shelby. 476 00:18:27,565 --> 00:18:28,692 Why does the District Attorney 477 00:18:28,775 --> 00:18:30,777 need to know where Mrs. Shelby is? 478 00:18:30,902 --> 00:18:32,654 Dolores Diamond was her assistant. 479 00:18:32,779 --> 00:18:35,699 We'd like to ask some questions concerning the case. 480 00:18:35,782 --> 00:18:38,660 Well, I can assure you Mrs. Shelby knows nothing 481 00:18:38,743 --> 00:18:41,329 about this tragic incident. 482 00:18:41,454 --> 00:18:42,497 Are you familiar with the website 483 00:18:42,622 --> 00:18:44,666 run by ex-cult members? 484 00:18:44,749 --> 00:18:46,793 Cult is such a negative word. 485 00:18:46,918 --> 00:18:48,336 What would you call it? 486 00:18:48,461 --> 00:18:50,422 A religion. 487 00:18:50,547 --> 00:18:51,589 One person's cult 488 00:18:51,673 --> 00:18:53,675 is another person's way to God. 489 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:54,759 A religion? 490 00:18:54,884 --> 00:18:56,803 The Children of the Divine? 491 00:18:56,886 --> 00:18:59,639 The IRS thinks so and so do the courts. 492 00:18:59,764 --> 00:19:01,349 The people who post to this website 493 00:19:01,474 --> 00:19:02,809 seem to think that Mrs. Shelby 494 00:19:02,892 --> 00:19:04,561 had a lot to do with this incident. 495 00:19:04,644 --> 00:19:06,730 That in some real way, she was responsible. 496 00:19:06,813 --> 00:19:08,606 Bitter apostates who bear a grudge. 497 00:19:08,690 --> 00:19:09,524 Can you blame them? 498 00:19:09,607 --> 00:19:10,984 No, not if their claims are credible. 499 00:19:11,109 --> 00:19:12,027 They're not? 500 00:19:12,152 --> 00:19:13,987 Any misdeeds you may be referring to 501 00:19:14,112 --> 00:19:17,282 were perpetrated by a very small faction of the group 502 00:19:17,365 --> 00:19:19,909 who were dealt with and expelled years ago. 503 00:19:21,953 --> 00:19:23,955 The cult no longer practices sex with children? 504 00:19:24,039 --> 00:19:26,750 The Children of the Divine never did. 505 00:19:26,833 --> 00:19:29,961 Only a few renegades who misinterpreted the teachings. 506 00:19:30,045 --> 00:19:32,756 I can get you a set of press releases if you like, 507 00:19:32,839 --> 00:19:35,717 and transcripts of the trials abroad 508 00:19:35,842 --> 00:19:37,802 which absolutely exonerated the organization. 509 00:19:37,886 --> 00:19:39,012 Maybe you could just show us 510 00:19:39,137 --> 00:19:40,972 a copy of The Book of Daniel. 511 00:19:41,056 --> 00:19:42,849 Or tell us where we can get our hands on one. 512 00:19:42,932 --> 00:19:44,517 We wouldn't have to bother Mrs. Shelby. 513 00:19:44,601 --> 00:19:45,894 There is no such book. 514 00:19:46,019 --> 00:19:49,606 That's not what Daniel, Richard Ranson, tells us. 515 00:19:49,731 --> 00:19:51,524 Is he well enough to speak to you? 516 00:19:51,650 --> 00:19:52,984 Because I know that Mrs. Shelby 517 00:19:53,068 --> 00:19:55,737 would like to call him just to see how he's doing. 518 00:19:55,862 --> 00:19:56,863 He's in jail. 519 00:19:56,946 --> 00:19:57,822 He's not going anywhere. 520 00:19:57,906 --> 00:19:59,824 All she has to do is come and visit. 521 00:19:59,908 --> 00:20:04,579 I'm afraid that would be highly unlikely. 522 00:20:04,704 --> 00:20:07,707 You think that lawyer's in touch with Mrs. Shelby? 523 00:20:07,791 --> 00:20:08,708 I definitely got that feeling. 524 00:20:08,833 --> 00:20:10,085 Maybe he can help us find her. 525 00:20:10,210 --> 00:20:11,127 How? 526 00:20:11,169 --> 00:20:13,546 If Sunshine sends her a message through him. 527 00:20:15,715 --> 00:20:18,676 I'll call Fontana and Green. 528 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,554 Sunshine, you can do this. 529 00:20:21,638 --> 00:20:22,847 Yeah, she scares me. 530 00:20:22,931 --> 00:20:24,099 We'll be right there with you. 531 00:20:24,224 --> 00:20:26,434 I don't know how to get in touch with her. 532 00:20:26,518 --> 00:20:27,769 You call her lawyer. 533 00:20:27,852 --> 00:20:29,938 You tell him that you want to meet up with her. 534 00:20:30,063 --> 00:20:31,731 Yeah, she won't want to see me. 535 00:20:31,815 --> 00:20:32,899 She will if you tell her 536 00:20:32,982 --> 00:20:35,860 that you have a message from Daniel. 537 00:20:50,709 --> 00:20:53,920 I am so happy to see you, darling. 538 00:20:54,003 --> 00:20:56,923 I missed you so much. 539 00:20:57,048 --> 00:20:59,592 You and your brother. 540 00:20:59,718 --> 00:21:00,844 Hey, Mother. 541 00:21:00,927 --> 00:21:01,886 Have you talked to Daniel? 542 00:21:01,970 --> 00:21:02,971 Yes, Mother. 543 00:21:03,096 --> 00:21:05,890 I went to visit him once. 544 00:21:06,016 --> 00:21:07,767 Mr. Jackson said you have a message to give me. 545 00:21:07,851 --> 00:21:08,685 From Daniel. 546 00:21:08,768 --> 00:21:11,688 Yes. 547 00:21:11,771 --> 00:21:14,024 Well, what is it? What did he say? 548 00:21:14,107 --> 00:21:16,818 He said you're under arrest. 549 00:21:16,943 --> 00:21:18,028 Under arrest for what? 550 00:21:18,111 --> 00:21:21,531 For kidnapping him 20 years ago. 551 00:21:21,614 --> 00:21:23,950 You have the right to remain silent. 552 00:21:24,075 --> 00:21:26,494 Anything you say can and will be used against you 553 00:21:26,578 --> 00:21:27,620 in a court of law. 554 00:21:29,414 --> 00:21:31,583 with an international reputation. 555 00:21:31,666 --> 00:21:33,293 International indeed, Your Honor. 556 00:21:33,376 --> 00:21:34,836 She's been investigated in a number of countries 557 00:21:34,961 --> 00:21:36,296 on a variety of charges. 558 00:21:36,421 --> 00:21:38,381 Spurious, trumped-up, discredited, 559 00:21:38,465 --> 00:21:39,424 and dismissed. 560 00:21:39,507 --> 00:21:41,301 Thank God we still live in a country 561 00:21:41,384 --> 00:21:42,510 where one is allowed to worship 562 00:21:42,635 --> 00:21:44,304 as he or she chooses. 563 00:21:44,387 --> 00:21:45,555 Mr. Grainger, please. 564 00:21:45,638 --> 00:21:47,140 Save the First Amendment for your closing, 565 00:21:47,223 --> 00:21:48,266 should you get that far. 566 00:21:48,349 --> 00:21:49,684 Given Mrs. Shelby's 567 00:21:49,809 --> 00:21:51,603 international connections and resources, 568 00:21:51,686 --> 00:21:53,646 we're asking that she be remanded. 569 00:21:53,772 --> 00:21:56,274 Mrs. Shelby has no intention of fleeing. 570 00:21:56,358 --> 00:21:58,026 The Children of the Divine 571 00:21:58,151 --> 00:22:00,111 have consistently jumped bail when facing trial. 572 00:22:00,195 --> 00:22:01,488 Sweeping generalization, Your Honor. 573 00:22:01,613 --> 00:22:03,490 And what others may or may not have done 574 00:22:03,615 --> 00:22:04,574 is irrelevant. 575 00:22:04,657 --> 00:22:06,201 It is not irrelevan. 576 00:22:06,326 --> 00:22:07,661 Any more than it would be 577 00:22:07,786 --> 00:22:10,121 with the leader of any other criminal organization. 578 00:22:10,205 --> 00:22:12,040 The Children of the Divine 579 00:22:12,123 --> 00:22:15,460 have a long record of dealing deceptively 580 00:22:15,543 --> 00:22:16,961 with civil and judicial authorities. 581 00:22:17,045 --> 00:22:18,338 Part of their standard operating procedure 582 00:22:18,421 --> 00:22:20,382 promulgated by Mrs. Shelby. 583 00:22:20,507 --> 00:22:21,424 You've convinced me, Ms. Borgia. 584 00:22:21,508 --> 00:22:23,343 Thank you, Your Honor. 585 00:22:23,426 --> 00:22:24,344 Bail is set at $2 million. 586 00:22:24,469 --> 00:22:25,345 Your Honor-- 587 00:22:25,470 --> 00:22:27,722 Defendant will surrender her passport. 588 00:22:27,847 --> 00:22:29,182 Your Honor-- 589 00:22:29,307 --> 00:22:31,518 Happy? No? Good. 590 00:22:34,521 --> 00:22:35,605 This isn't kidnapping. 591 00:22:35,689 --> 00:22:39,359 It's a 25-year-old custody dispute. 592 00:22:39,484 --> 00:22:42,237 Your client took her son from his legal guardians. 593 00:22:42,362 --> 00:22:43,655 Her parents, the boy's grandparents. 594 00:22:43,738 --> 00:22:44,864 For sexual purposes. 595 00:22:44,990 --> 00:22:45,740 That's a lie. 596 00:22:45,782 --> 00:22:48,702 To rectify an erroneous court decision 597 00:22:48,785 --> 00:22:50,620 and reunite a sn and his mothe. 598 00:22:50,704 --> 00:22:53,415 The abuse Richard Ranson suffered as a child 599 00:22:53,540 --> 00:22:55,417 at the hands of his mother and others 600 00:22:55,542 --> 00:22:57,419 led directly to the murder of Dolores Diamond. 601 00:22:57,502 --> 00:23:00,380 That's his self-serving justification. 602 00:23:00,463 --> 00:23:02,257 He wasn't abused. 603 00:23:02,382 --> 00:23:03,341 On the contrary. 604 00:23:03,466 --> 00:23:06,428 Daniel was the most pampered little prince. 605 00:23:06,511 --> 00:23:08,722 He was royalt. 606 00:23:08,805 --> 00:23:10,265 As for the sex acts... 607 00:23:10,348 --> 00:23:11,391 We have his sister's 608 00:23:11,474 --> 00:23:14,352 corroborating testimony. 609 00:23:14,436 --> 00:23:16,229 My daughter is a disturbed young woman. 610 00:23:16,313 --> 00:23:18,231 And your son is a murderer and a would-be suicide. 611 00:23:20,317 --> 00:23:21,192 Your point? 612 00:23:21,234 --> 00:23:24,571 Your revolutionary child-rearing techniques 613 00:23:24,696 --> 00:23:27,407 seem to have fallen a little short of the mark. 614 00:23:27,532 --> 00:23:29,409 I am not saying that I was the best mother 615 00:23:29,534 --> 00:23:30,952 that ever was. 616 00:23:31,077 --> 00:23:33,955 But these allegations? 617 00:23:34,039 --> 00:23:35,790 They're unbearable. 618 00:23:35,915 --> 00:23:37,876 Not to mention incredibl. 619 00:23:38,001 --> 00:23:38,960 And as you sa, 620 00:23:39,085 --> 00:23:41,171 look who's making them. 621 00:23:42,797 --> 00:23:44,674 Then you're not interested in a plea? 622 00:23:44,758 --> 00:23:46,676 What would I plead to, Mr. McCoy? 623 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,763 Trying to bring my children closer to God? 624 00:23:49,846 --> 00:23:52,140 Making them aware of the Divine spark 625 00:23:52,223 --> 00:23:54,434 that burns within? 626 00:23:54,559 --> 00:23:57,312 And now I'm being persecuted for it? 627 00:23:57,437 --> 00:23:58,938 Hm? 628 00:24:01,858 --> 00:24:03,276 I'm afraid Grainger's right. 629 00:24:03,401 --> 00:24:05,403 No jury is gonna put much stock 630 00:24:05,487 --> 00:24:07,280 in a murderer's sordid fantasy 631 00:24:07,405 --> 00:24:08,865 about his mother and his babysitter. 632 00:24:08,948 --> 00:24:11,785 Or the sister he had an incestuous affair with. 633 00:24:11,910 --> 00:24:15,455 We could use a witness who wasn't a member. 634 00:24:15,538 --> 00:24:16,331 Not much chance of that. 635 00:24:16,456 --> 00:24:18,666 We could use a copy of that book. 636 00:24:18,750 --> 00:24:19,667 Accordig to Richard Ranso, 637 00:24:19,751 --> 00:24:20,794 as soon as the authorities 638 00:24:20,877 --> 00:24:22,796 got on to what they were up to, 639 00:24:22,879 --> 00:24:24,673 Mrs. Shelby ordered every copy burned. 640 00:24:24,756 --> 00:24:27,926 We'll just have to make do with what we got. 641 00:24:29,928 --> 00:24:32,889 Facing her mother would be hard for Sunshine Porter 642 00:24:32,972 --> 00:24:34,391 on her best day. 643 00:24:34,474 --> 00:24:37,644 I'll do what I can to shore her up. 644 00:24:39,437 --> 00:24:42,482 Nobody forced us to have sex. 645 00:24:42,565 --> 00:24:43,650 Isn't that a direct contradiction 646 00:24:43,733 --> 00:24:45,610 of what you told the police? 647 00:24:45,694 --> 00:24:48,530 It's just the way things were in our world. 648 00:24:48,655 --> 00:24:50,407 You were expected to, and you did. 649 00:24:50,532 --> 00:24:54,285 Everybody did. 650 00:24:54,369 --> 00:24:55,370 What if you'd said no? 651 00:24:55,453 --> 00:24:57,330 Mother would have been angry. 652 00:24:57,414 --> 00:24:59,541 Okay, then. That's pressure. 653 00:24:59,666 --> 00:25:01,668 It's coercive. You were a child. 654 00:25:03,503 --> 00:25:06,506 I guess. 655 00:25:06,589 --> 00:25:09,551 What about the Victory camps? 656 00:25:09,634 --> 00:25:11,386 I never had to go to one of those. 657 00:25:11,511 --> 00:25:12,846 What about Daniel? 658 00:25:12,971 --> 00:25:16,683 When he was 17, he had to go to the Philippines for a year. 659 00:25:16,808 --> 00:25:18,518 Did he ever tell you about it? 660 00:25:18,643 --> 00:25:21,688 He didn't want to talk about it, really. 661 00:25:21,771 --> 00:25:23,648 He said it was no big deal. 662 00:25:23,732 --> 00:25:27,235 The website testimonies make it sound... 663 00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:28,987 brutal. 664 00:25:29,070 --> 00:25:29,988 Beatings, 665 00:25:30,071 --> 00:25:32,324 isolation... 666 00:25:32,407 --> 00:25:33,366 Well, Daniel was the Chosen One. 667 00:25:33,408 --> 00:25:36,411 There was only so much they could do to him. 668 00:25:36,536 --> 00:25:38,371 Other kids had a harder time of it? 669 00:25:38,496 --> 00:25:42,500 I know our brother David did. 670 00:25:42,584 --> 00:25:45,378 I didn't know you had another brother. 671 00:25:45,462 --> 00:25:46,337 I'd like to talk to him. 672 00:25:46,379 --> 00:25:50,467 Do you know how I can get in touch with him? 673 00:25:50,550 --> 00:25:53,970 Mmm...he died last year. 674 00:25:54,054 --> 00:25:56,723 How? 675 00:25:59,601 --> 00:26:03,313 Drug overdose. 676 00:26:04,731 --> 00:26:07,525 They found him convulsing 677 00:26:07,609 --> 00:26:10,528 on the floor of his hotel room. 678 00:26:10,612 --> 00:26:15,533 He never had a chance. 679 00:26:15,617 --> 00:26:16,451 His death coincides 680 00:26:16,534 --> 00:26:17,994 with the onset of your depression. 681 00:26:18,078 --> 00:26:19,579 So? 682 00:26:19,704 --> 00:26:22,624 It could be used to undermine your testimony. 683 00:26:22,707 --> 00:26:24,000 That you blame your mother for David's death. 684 00:26:24,084 --> 00:26:26,294 I do. 685 00:26:26,378 --> 00:26:28,088 You look vindictive. 686 00:26:28,213 --> 00:26:29,506 I am! 687 00:26:29,589 --> 00:26:30,590 You fabricate 688 00:26:30,715 --> 00:26:32,592 these fantastic tales of childhood abuse 689 00:26:32,717 --> 00:26:34,094 in order to get back at her. 690 00:26:34,219 --> 00:26:36,096 I'm telling the truth. 691 00:26:37,639 --> 00:26:39,391 Wish we had a copy of that book. 692 00:26:39,474 --> 00:26:41,142 So do I. 693 00:26:41,226 --> 00:26:44,771 The book is gone. 694 00:26:44,896 --> 00:26:45,855 What about Sunshine? 695 00:26:45,939 --> 00:26:49,359 I'm cautiously optimistic. 696 00:26:52,570 --> 00:26:55,782 You don't know what you're up against. 697 00:26:58,993 --> 00:27:03,456 Dolores would, you know... 698 00:27:03,581 --> 00:27:05,625 sex him up. 699 00:27:05,750 --> 00:27:07,877 How old was he when this started? 700 00:27:07,961 --> 00:27:09,504 Six or seven. 701 00:27:09,629 --> 00:27:12,424 How old were you? 702 00:27:12,549 --> 00:27:15,260 I'm three years younger than Daniel. 703 00:27:15,343 --> 00:27:16,678 So you would have been three or four, 704 00:27:16,803 --> 00:27:17,762 and you remember this? 705 00:27:17,887 --> 00:27:19,639 Really? Oh, yes. 706 00:27:19,723 --> 00:27:22,934 I remember Mother... 707 00:27:23,018 --> 00:27:25,812 bringing me into the room to watch. 708 00:27:25,895 --> 00:27:30,483 By Mother, you mean the defendant, Mrs. Shelby? 709 00:27:30,608 --> 00:27:32,652 Yes. 710 00:27:32,736 --> 00:27:34,988 She was aware of what was going on? 711 00:27:35,113 --> 00:27:36,573 It was part of the teachings. 712 00:27:36,656 --> 00:27:38,616 Her teachings. 713 00:27:38,700 --> 00:27:40,827 She condoned i? 714 00:27:40,952 --> 00:27:42,620 It was her idea. 715 00:27:42,704 --> 00:27:44,998 How long did this relationship 716 00:27:45,081 --> 00:27:46,833 between your brother and Ms. Diamond go on? 717 00:27:46,916 --> 00:27:51,171 Until he was about 17. 718 00:27:51,296 --> 00:27:53,840 How do you know? 719 00:27:58,553 --> 00:27:59,471 I'd watch. 720 00:27:59,554 --> 00:28:00,764 Sometimes, I'd participate. 721 00:28:00,847 --> 00:28:03,600 You'd have sex with your brother 722 00:28:03,683 --> 00:28:05,018 and Ms. Diamond? 723 00:28:06,061 --> 00:28:08,646 Yes. 724 00:28:08,730 --> 00:28:11,983 Was your mother aware of this too? 725 00:28:14,486 --> 00:28:15,737 She encouraged it. 726 00:28:15,862 --> 00:28:18,531 Your mother... 727 00:28:18,615 --> 00:28:21,242 encouraged you to have an incestuous relationship 728 00:28:21,326 --> 00:28:22,535 with your brother? 729 00:28:22,661 --> 00:28:27,874 Yes...she did. 730 00:28:40,095 --> 00:28:41,888 How long did this incest go on? 731 00:28:41,971 --> 00:28:43,932 'Til Daniel left. 732 00:28:44,015 --> 00:28:45,725 Why did he leave? 733 00:28:45,850 --> 00:28:46,768 He told Mother he didn't believe 734 00:28:46,893 --> 00:28:48,728 in the teachings anymore, 735 00:28:48,812 --> 00:28:50,021 and he wanted a normal life. 736 00:28:50,105 --> 00:28:51,981 And what was her reaction? 737 00:28:52,065 --> 00:28:52,941 She was upset. 738 00:28:53,066 --> 00:28:54,526 She sent Daniel to Victory Camp 739 00:28:54,651 --> 00:28:56,569 in the Philippines. 740 00:28:56,653 --> 00:28:57,988 Victory Camp? What's that? 741 00:28:58,071 --> 00:28:59,656 A place where you studied the teachings 742 00:28:59,739 --> 00:29:00,907 until you understood them better. 743 00:29:01,032 --> 00:29:02,784 Where they punished you? 744 00:29:02,909 --> 00:29:03,910 Yes. 745 00:29:03,993 --> 00:29:04,786 How long was he there? 746 00:29:04,911 --> 00:29:06,788 A year. 747 00:29:06,871 --> 00:29:09,833 And when he returne? 748 00:29:09,958 --> 00:29:12,460 He was angry. Bitter. 749 00:29:12,585 --> 00:29:17,841 Was this, uh, anger directed at anyone in particular? 750 00:29:17,924 --> 00:29:20,301 Our mother. 751 00:29:20,427 --> 00:29:22,053 Is that when he left? 752 00:29:22,137 --> 00:29:23,763 Moved to New York. 753 00:29:23,888 --> 00:29:26,016 And changed his name to Richard Ranson? 754 00:29:26,099 --> 00:29:27,642 Yes. 755 00:29:27,767 --> 00:29:28,560 What about yo? 756 00:29:28,601 --> 00:29:30,812 Were you upset when your, uh, brother 757 00:29:30,895 --> 00:29:32,147 left the community? 758 00:29:32,230 --> 00:29:34,649 Of course. 759 00:29:34,774 --> 00:29:35,734 That's natura. 760 00:29:35,859 --> 00:29:38,028 He was your lover. 761 00:29:39,696 --> 00:29:40,947 Yeah, that's not why-- 762 00:29:41,031 --> 00:29:41,990 It isn'? 763 00:29:42,115 --> 00:29:43,867 Isn't it true that for many years, 764 00:29:43,950 --> 00:29:45,076 your mother had no idea 765 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,787 what you and your brother were doing? 766 00:29:47,871 --> 00:29:49,122 She knew from the beginning. 767 00:29:49,247 --> 00:29:50,749 Do you know how preposterous that is? 768 00:29:50,832 --> 00:29:52,792 That any mother would condone, 769 00:29:52,917 --> 00:29:54,127 let alone, encourage such a thing 770 00:29:54,210 --> 00:29:55,795 between her young children? 771 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,630 In our community, it was normal. 772 00:29:57,714 --> 00:29:58,798 That's what parents did. 773 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,093 You and your brother were lovers as teenagers 774 00:30:02,177 --> 00:30:04,971 after pubert, were you no? 775 00:30:05,096 --> 00:30:06,097 Yes. 776 00:30:06,181 --> 00:30:07,223 For several year, 777 00:30:07,307 --> 00:30:10,727 until Danil called a halt to i. 778 00:30:10,810 --> 00:30:11,770 Yes. 779 00:30:11,853 --> 00:30:12,979 Isn't it a fact that 780 00:30:13,104 --> 00:30:14,647 that's when this incestuous relationship started, 781 00:30:14,731 --> 00:30:15,857 when you were teenagers, 782 00:30:15,982 --> 00:30:18,652 living in an isolate, self-contained communiy 783 00:30:18,777 --> 00:30:19,819 in a foreign countr? 784 00:30:19,903 --> 00:30:21,780 No. It was before that. 785 00:30:21,863 --> 00:30:23,114 And when your mothr 786 00:30:23,198 --> 00:30:25,742 discovered that you and your brother were lovers, 787 00:30:25,825 --> 00:30:27,702 isn't that why she sent him away for a year? 788 00:30:27,827 --> 00:30:28,828 No. 789 00:30:28,912 --> 00:30:29,996 Far from condonig 790 00:30:30,121 --> 00:30:33,124 this illicit relationship, wasn't she horrified? 791 00:30:33,208 --> 00:30:34,834 No, she wanted us to be together. 792 00:30:34,918 --> 00:30:36,252 And that upon his retur, 793 00:30:36,336 --> 00:30:40,131 didn't you and your brother concoct this outlandish story 794 00:30:40,215 --> 00:30:41,674 to get your revenge on her? 795 00:30:41,758 --> 00:30:42,884 Objection. 796 00:30:43,009 --> 00:30:45,178 Your Honor, what is the foundation for all this? 797 00:30:47,180 --> 00:30:48,348 I'm getting to that, Your Honor. 798 00:30:48,473 --> 00:30:50,683 See that you do. 799 00:30:56,356 --> 00:30:58,858 This is a transcript of a sworn statement 800 00:30:58,942 --> 00:31:00,110 you made to the Mexican authorities, 801 00:31:00,193 --> 00:31:01,861 investigating similar allegations 802 00:31:01,945 --> 00:31:04,698 you and your brothr made against Mrs. Shely 803 00:31:04,823 --> 00:31:06,241 and The Children of the Divine. 804 00:31:06,324 --> 00:31:09,035 Would you please read the highlighted section? 805 00:31:17,085 --> 00:31:21,881 "Miss Porter: Daniel and I made that up. 806 00:31:21,965 --> 00:31:24,718 "Investigator: Made it up? Which part? 807 00:31:24,801 --> 00:31:27,887 "Miss Porter: All of it. 808 00:31:27,971 --> 00:31:29,639 "Investigator: Why? 809 00:31:29,723 --> 00:31:33,893 "Miss Porter: We were mad at Mother for sending Daniel away. 810 00:31:34,019 --> 00:31:38,982 "Investigator: Then these allegations are false. 811 00:31:39,065 --> 00:31:44,195 Miss Porter: Yes, they are, completely." 812 00:31:44,279 --> 00:31:46,906 Which is it, Miss Porter? 813 00:31:46,990 --> 00:31:47,949 Were you lying under oath then, 814 00:31:48,033 --> 00:31:52,787 or are you lying under oath...now? 815 00:32:06,843 --> 00:32:10,764 Judge Huse had no choice but to dismiss the charges. 816 00:32:10,889 --> 00:32:12,390 Sunshine was doing so well too. 817 00:32:12,474 --> 00:32:15,226 Even with her Mother giving her the death ray. 818 00:32:15,310 --> 00:32:16,770 I'm going after her for murder. 819 00:32:16,895 --> 00:32:17,729 Mrs. Shelby? 820 00:32:17,812 --> 00:32:19,105 For the death of her son, David. 821 00:32:20,190 --> 00:32:21,107 Where do we start? 822 00:32:21,232 --> 00:32:22,817 Talk to the FBI. 823 00:32:22,901 --> 00:32:24,069 They have a cult task force. 824 00:32:24,152 --> 00:32:26,237 See what they've got on The Children of the Divine. 825 00:32:26,321 --> 00:32:27,947 I'll get on it right away. 826 00:32:28,031 --> 00:32:30,116 Before she leaves the country again. 827 00:32:32,535 --> 00:32:33,244 against Mrs. Shelby 828 00:32:33,328 --> 00:32:34,663 and The Children of the Divine 829 00:32:34,788 --> 00:32:36,373 in Argentina, the Philippines-- 830 00:32:36,498 --> 00:32:38,458 They claim they've cleaned up their act. 831 00:32:38,541 --> 00:32:40,627 Well, it's maybe it's not as egregious as it once was, 832 00:32:40,710 --> 00:32:42,003 but the sex abuse still goes on. 833 00:32:42,128 --> 00:32:43,963 If you have any idea where we could find 834 00:32:44,047 --> 00:32:46,466 a copy of Mrs. Shelby's book... 835 00:32:46,591 --> 00:32:47,634 The legendary Book of Daniel? 836 00:32:47,759 --> 00:32:50,011 Trying to build a murder case against Mrs. Shelby 837 00:32:50,136 --> 00:32:51,596 for the death of her son, David. 838 00:32:51,721 --> 00:32:53,056 And it would help corroborate 839 00:32:53,139 --> 00:32:54,849 Richard and Sunshine's testimony against their mother. 840 00:32:54,933 --> 00:32:55,850 We can't find it. 841 00:32:55,934 --> 00:32:57,602 I can get you a copy. 842 00:32:57,685 --> 00:32:58,436 You can? 843 00:32:58,478 --> 00:33:00,855 I've got a photocopy of a manuscript 844 00:33:00,980 --> 00:33:02,732 that was seized in a raid years ago 845 00:33:02,816 --> 00:33:04,984 in Mrs. Shelby's compound in Buenos Aires. 846 00:33:06,486 --> 00:33:07,862 A photocopy. 847 00:33:07,946 --> 00:33:09,364 Can the original be authenticated? 848 00:33:09,489 --> 00:33:12,701 It's in her handwriting. 849 00:33:12,784 --> 00:33:14,661 The book is explicit, Arthur. 850 00:33:14,786 --> 00:33:17,872 It's not just doctrine, or some crazy how-to manual 851 00:33:17,956 --> 00:33:20,709 for child rearin. 852 00:33:20,834 --> 00:33:21,626 It documents specific instances, 853 00:33:21,710 --> 00:33:23,586 many of them involving Richard Ranson. 854 00:33:23,670 --> 00:33:25,964 It can help us establish a clear pattern of abuse. 855 00:33:26,047 --> 00:33:27,007 They gave them drugs as well? 856 00:33:27,132 --> 00:33:28,633 How else do you get a 10-year-old 857 00:33:28,717 --> 00:33:31,678 to have sex with a 40-year-old and claim it's consensual? 858 00:33:31,803 --> 00:33:33,471 I want to go back to the grand jury 859 00:33:33,555 --> 00:33:35,807 and get an indictment for murder against Mrs. Shelby 860 00:33:35,890 --> 00:33:37,475 for the death of her son, David. 861 00:33:37,559 --> 00:33:39,310 Walk me through it. 862 00:33:39,436 --> 00:33:40,687 Immigration says Mrs. Shelby was in New York 863 00:33:40,812 --> 00:33:41,730 at the time of David's death. 864 00:33:41,771 --> 00:33:43,898 She and David had flown in from Mexico City. 865 00:33:43,982 --> 00:33:45,066 During their visit, 866 00:33:45,150 --> 00:33:48,069 David Shelby died of an overdose of Quaaludes. 867 00:33:48,153 --> 00:33:49,154 An empty prescription bottle 868 00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:51,573 belonging to Mrs. Shelby was found at the scene. 869 00:33:51,698 --> 00:33:53,992 If she smuggled them in 870 00:33:54,075 --> 00:33:55,744 and gave them to her minor son, David, 871 00:33:55,869 --> 00:33:57,454 while he was in her care-- 872 00:33:57,537 --> 00:33:59,748 For the purposes of sexual exploitation. 873 00:33:59,831 --> 00:34:02,876 Depraved indifference. Murder Two. 874 00:34:02,959 --> 00:34:05,712 Let's rearret Mrs. Shelb. 875 00:34:07,922 --> 00:34:10,633 David was my half-brother. 876 00:34:10,759 --> 00:34:13,678 We have the same mother. 877 00:34:13,762 --> 00:34:16,056 When was the last tie you saw your brothe? 878 00:34:16,181 --> 00:34:17,557 About ten years ago. 879 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:18,641 When I left the cult. 880 00:34:18,725 --> 00:34:20,852 How old were you? 18. 881 00:34:20,935 --> 00:34:24,230 David was five. 882 00:34:25,231 --> 00:34:28,610 Do you recognize this? 883 00:34:28,735 --> 00:34:30,945 It's The Book of Daniel. 884 00:34:31,029 --> 00:34:33,990 It's a book describing how I was raised. 885 00:34:34,074 --> 00:34:36,618 It's also a book of my mother's teachings. 886 00:34:36,743 --> 00:34:39,704 Who wroe The Book of Danie? 887 00:34:39,788 --> 00:34:40,789 She di. 888 00:34:40,830 --> 00:34:43,792 Does it accurately describe how you were raised? 889 00:34:45,794 --> 00:34:47,629 Yes...it does. 890 00:34:47,712 --> 00:34:51,049 The Book of Daniel clais that you were initiatd 891 00:34:51,132 --> 00:34:52,801 into sexual activity at a very early age. 892 00:34:52,926 --> 00:34:53,843 Is that true? 893 00:34:53,927 --> 00:34:55,637 Yes. 894 00:34:55,762 --> 00:34:58,807 Who was the first persn you ever had sex wit? 895 00:34:58,890 --> 00:35:01,893 My Nanny, Dolores Diamond. 896 00:35:02,018 --> 00:35:03,728 How old were you? 897 00:35:03,812 --> 00:35:06,815 Six. 898 00:35:06,940 --> 00:35:08,733 She would have been about... 899 00:35:08,858 --> 00:35:10,652 17 or 18. 900 00:35:10,777 --> 00:35:11,903 Would you tell the court 901 00:35:12,028 --> 00:35:13,863 what crime you have been convicted of 902 00:35:13,947 --> 00:35:17,117 and are presently awaiting sentencing for? 903 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,618 Manslaughter. 904 00:35:18,702 --> 00:35:19,536 Who did you kill? 905 00:35:19,619 --> 00:35:21,788 Dolores Diamond. 906 00:35:21,871 --> 00:35:22,956 Your Nann. 907 00:35:23,081 --> 00:35:24,791 Wh? 908 00:35:24,916 --> 00:35:27,752 I hated her for what she did to me when I was a kid. 909 00:35:27,836 --> 00:35:30,130 It's all in the book. 910 00:35:30,255 --> 00:35:33,258 Was that the only reason that you killed her? 911 00:35:33,341 --> 00:35:35,719 I wanted her to tell me where my mother was. 912 00:35:35,802 --> 00:35:36,803 She wouldn't. 913 00:35:36,928 --> 00:35:38,930 Why did you want to know that? 914 00:35:39,014 --> 00:35:41,975 I was hoping to kill her too. 915 00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:43,935 After you killd Dolores Diamon, 916 00:35:44,018 --> 00:35:45,562 what did you d? 917 00:35:46,771 --> 00:35:48,773 I shot myself. 918 00:35:48,857 --> 00:35:51,067 Wh? 919 00:35:51,151 --> 00:35:52,902 I felt guilty. 920 00:35:52,986 --> 00:35:55,739 For killing her? 921 00:35:56,906 --> 00:36:01,286 For my brother. David. 922 00:36:01,369 --> 00:36:05,707 I should have taken him with me. 923 00:36:05,832 --> 00:36:09,627 But I left him behind. 924 00:36:09,711 --> 00:36:13,131 With her. 925 00:36:13,214 --> 00:36:14,716 She was doing to him 926 00:36:14,841 --> 00:36:17,719 what she did to m. 927 00:36:17,844 --> 00:36:18,928 Giving him drus 928 00:36:19,054 --> 00:36:23,058 and making him have sex while she watched. 929 00:36:23,183 --> 00:36:25,977 Did your mother give you drugs? 930 00:36:26,102 --> 00:36:30,065 Phenobarbital, Quaaludes, Ecstasy... 931 00:36:30,190 --> 00:36:33,318 The adults, our parents, 932 00:36:33,401 --> 00:36:37,655 always gave us drugs before they had sex with us. 933 00:36:37,739 --> 00:36:41,659 Do you know hw your brother die? 934 00:36:41,743 --> 00:36:44,871 An overdose of Quaaludes. 935 00:36:54,672 --> 00:36:57,050 You were so angry with your mother, 936 00:36:57,133 --> 00:36:58,718 you wanted to kill her? 937 00:36:58,802 --> 00:37:00,178 Yes. 938 00:37:00,261 --> 00:37:01,930 So you killed another woman instead? 939 00:37:02,013 --> 00:37:04,682 Dolores was as close as I could get. 940 00:37:04,766 --> 00:37:06,851 Oh, that maks a lot of sens. 941 00:37:06,935 --> 00:37:09,896 How did you kil Dolores Diamon? 942 00:37:09,980 --> 00:37:10,689 With a knife. 943 00:37:10,730 --> 00:37:13,066 How many times did you stab her? 944 00:37:13,149 --> 00:37:14,776 I don't know. 945 00:37:14,901 --> 00:37:15,985 I can help you with that. 946 00:37:16,111 --> 00:37:18,071 According to the Medical Examiner's report, 947 00:37:18,154 --> 00:37:22,951 you stabbed her five times. 948 00:37:23,076 --> 00:37:24,285 And then slit her throat. 949 00:37:24,369 --> 00:37:27,914 Each wound was a fatal on. 950 00:37:27,998 --> 00:37:29,499 If that's what it says. 951 00:37:29,624 --> 00:37:31,751 You invited Ms. Diamod to dinne, 952 00:37:31,835 --> 00:37:33,545 asked her back to your room, 953 00:37:33,628 --> 00:37:35,588 and then you stabbed her to death 954 00:37:35,714 --> 00:37:38,007 with a weapon you had purchased earlier that day. 955 00:37:38,091 --> 00:37:39,300 Yes. 956 00:37:39,384 --> 00:37:43,138 A premeditated, violent, vicious slaying, 957 00:37:43,263 --> 00:37:44,222 and you're serving a term for manslaughter? 958 00:37:44,305 --> 00:37:45,223 Objection. 959 00:37:45,306 --> 00:37:47,851 Sustained. 960 00:37:47,934 --> 00:37:49,936 Dolores Diamond molested you when you were a child, 961 00:37:50,019 --> 00:37:51,563 Dolores Diamond gave you drugs, 962 00:37:51,646 --> 00:37:55,066 you were so angry with her, you lured her back 963 00:37:55,150 --> 00:37:56,901 to your hotel room to kill her-- 964 00:37:56,985 --> 00:37:57,777 Your Honor. 965 00:37:57,819 --> 00:37:59,904 Does counsel intend to ask a question? 966 00:37:59,988 --> 00:38:01,823 Mr. Grainger? 967 00:38:03,992 --> 00:38:05,160 Isn't it true, Mr. Ranson, 968 00:38:05,285 --> 00:38:07,912 in return for a manslaughter plea, 969 00:38:07,996 --> 00:38:10,290 you concocted this stoy against your mothr 970 00:38:10,373 --> 00:38:14,044 in order to pleae the District Attorne? 971 00:38:14,127 --> 00:38:16,463 No. 972 00:38:18,423 --> 00:38:21,217 It's the truth. 973 00:38:26,014 --> 00:38:27,807 Nothing further. 974 00:38:31,227 --> 00:38:34,272 You didn't write The Book of Daniel. 975 00:38:34,356 --> 00:38:36,274 I did not. 976 00:38:36,399 --> 00:38:37,359 The People's expert witness 977 00:38:37,442 --> 00:38:40,195 testified that the manuscript was in your hand. 978 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,322 It's a forgery. 979 00:38:42,405 --> 00:38:46,159 Did you ever believe in what it advocates? 980 00:38:46,242 --> 00:38:48,661 When I finally obtained a copy of it 981 00:38:48,787 --> 00:38:50,997 and read the book, I was distressed. 982 00:38:51,122 --> 00:38:54,918 I ordered the book destroyed, 983 00:38:55,001 --> 00:38:55,794 and anyone who believed 984 00:38:55,835 --> 00:38:58,296 or practiced its precepts expelled. 985 00:38:58,380 --> 00:39:00,256 Why would someone go to all the trouble 986 00:39:00,382 --> 00:39:02,050 to forge this document? 987 00:39:02,133 --> 00:39:03,927 To discredit me and our community. 988 00:39:04,052 --> 00:39:05,845 Why? 989 00:39:05,970 --> 00:39:07,305 We're a threat 990 00:39:07,430 --> 00:39:09,391 to the established social order, 991 00:39:09,516 --> 00:39:13,311 to governmens and churche. 992 00:39:13,395 --> 00:39:14,688 A threat? How so? 993 00:39:14,813 --> 00:39:19,067 We believe in God's laws, not man's. 994 00:39:19,192 --> 00:39:23,488 Your own son and daughtr testified against yo. 995 00:39:25,198 --> 00:39:27,409 I feel so sorry for them. 996 00:39:27,492 --> 00:39:30,370 Are any of the things they said about you true? 997 00:39:30,453 --> 00:39:32,998 Not at all. 998 00:39:33,081 --> 00:39:36,835 Are they lying? 999 00:39:36,918 --> 00:39:40,922 I think they believe what they're saying. 1000 00:39:41,047 --> 00:39:42,173 They've been manipulated. 1001 00:39:42,257 --> 00:39:46,010 They have false memories. 1002 00:39:46,094 --> 00:39:49,097 They feel guilty about what they did. 1003 00:39:49,222 --> 00:39:51,266 About their relationship. 1004 00:39:51,349 --> 00:39:57,105 And...that's why I feel sorry for them. 1005 00:39:57,188 --> 00:40:01,276 I think...I think they're victims too. 1006 00:40:01,359 --> 00:40:04,988 Thank you. 1007 00:40:12,579 --> 00:40:14,956 Did you ever give your children drugs? 1008 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,833 No. Never. 1009 00:40:16,958 --> 00:40:19,169 You never gave your son, David, Quaaludes? 1010 00:40:19,252 --> 00:40:22,088 You had a prescription for them. 1011 00:40:22,213 --> 00:40:23,381 He may have taken them from me 1012 00:40:23,506 --> 00:40:26,384 without my knowledge, but I-I don't know. 1013 00:40:26,468 --> 00:40:29,262 And you never encouraged any of your children 1014 00:40:29,387 --> 00:40:31,181 to have sex with each other or with adults? 1015 00:40:31,264 --> 00:40:33,183 Of course not. 1016 00:40:33,266 --> 00:40:35,143 And all of the testimony 1017 00:40:35,226 --> 00:40:38,104 we've heard from ex-members 1018 00:40:38,188 --> 00:40:41,149 which contradicts what you're saying? 1019 00:40:41,274 --> 00:40:43,443 I have a lot of enemies. 1020 00:40:45,278 --> 00:40:47,322 Because you're such a threat 1021 00:40:47,447 --> 00:40:49,949 to the established order of things. 1022 00:40:50,075 --> 00:40:53,328 Ye. 1023 00:40:53,411 --> 00:40:57,332 How many followers do you have, Mrs. Shelby? 1024 00:40:57,415 --> 00:40:59,125 We're flourishing in a number of countries. 1025 00:40:59,250 --> 00:41:00,418 According to the FBI, 1026 00:41:00,543 --> 00:41:04,005 you have less than 10,000. 1027 00:41:04,130 --> 00:41:06,800 That's a gross underestimation. 1028 00:41:06,883 --> 00:41:08,134 With many of the younger ones leaving 1029 00:41:08,218 --> 00:41:09,386 as soon as they're able? 1030 00:41:09,469 --> 00:41:10,428 That's not true. 1031 00:41:10,553 --> 00:41:13,014 They want to diminish us. 1032 00:41:13,139 --> 00:41:15,266 And charging you and your cult 1033 00:41:15,350 --> 00:41:17,519 with sexual and physical abuse. 1034 00:41:17,644 --> 00:41:19,396 This campaign against us 1035 00:41:19,521 --> 00:41:21,981 has been going on for decades. 1036 00:41:22,107 --> 00:41:24,150 This conspiracy against you. 1037 00:41:24,275 --> 00:41:26,820 All lies? 1038 00:41:26,945 --> 00:41:28,154 There may have been a few instances, 1039 00:41:28,238 --> 00:41:31,157 a few excesses early on. 1040 00:41:31,241 --> 00:41:32,200 But we dealt with them. 1041 00:41:32,283 --> 00:41:35,996 Why, Mrs. Shelby? 1042 00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:37,789 Why would all these people, 1043 00:41:37,872 --> 00:41:41,918 these agencis and government, 1044 00:41:42,001 --> 00:41:47,549 your own children, conspire against you? 1045 00:41:51,052 --> 00:41:54,389 Every great spiritual and religious leader 1046 00:41:54,472 --> 00:41:56,516 throughout history 1047 00:41:56,599 --> 00:42:00,228 has been mocked, scorned, persecuted. 1048 00:42:00,353 --> 00:42:02,021 You should know that. 1049 00:42:02,147 --> 00:42:04,190 For instance? 1050 00:42:04,274 --> 00:42:05,191 Jesu. 1051 00:42:05,317 --> 00:42:07,027 Mohammed. 1052 00:42:07,110 --> 00:42:09,112 The Buddha. 1053 00:42:09,237 --> 00:42:11,364 Joseph Smith, Galileo, 1054 00:42:11,448 --> 00:42:15,035 Saint Francis, Mary, Queen of Scots. 1055 00:42:15,118 --> 00:42:18,204 And you put yourself in their company? 1056 00:42:19,748 --> 00:42:22,083 I do. 1057 00:42:42,020 --> 00:42:43,271 How do you find? 1058 00:42:43,355 --> 00:42:46,149 We find the defendant guilty. 1059 00:43:17,555 --> 00:43:18,473 Mother Shelby. 1060 00:43:18,556 --> 00:43:21,643 What a performance. 1061 00:43:21,768 --> 00:43:24,771 Smile and smile and be a villain. 72929

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