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In the criminal justice system,
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the people are represented
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by two separate
yet equally important groups:
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the police,
who investigate crime,
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and the district attorneys,
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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How many times
have I told you,
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put it where you can find it.
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What are pockets for?
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Now I'm not sure
if I had it with me.
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You had it.
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Mom, it stinks in here.
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Of course it stinks--
it's garbage. Now dig.
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I'm so over curry.
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You know, you're going
to be grounded
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for life if it's
up to your father.
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You know how he hates
it when you lose things.
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Hey, Mom, look at this.
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Oh, my God,
that's a hand!
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Okay, just drop it, drop it.
Now!
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Ew!
Come on.
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He was looking
for his what?
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His braces.
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They're plastic nowadays.
Removable.
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He find 'em?
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Not yet. He did, however,
find a hand.
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Just one? They usually
come in pairs.
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The restaurant says that they
put their garbage out
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at 10:00 last night
right after they closed.
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It was supposed to be picked up
this morning,
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but the carting company
didn't show up.
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So the hand could have been
dumped on the pile
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anytime the last 22 hours.
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Detectives.
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Found this in a Dumpster
on Fourth Street.
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Oh, God,
don't tell me.
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I'm guessing those two
belong to each other.
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Hardwick, I need you
to get some help.
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I want you to check
every trash can, Dumpster
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and garbage bag between First
and Second Avenue,
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from Houston to St. Marks.
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You kidding me?
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Do I look like I'm kidding?
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Captioning sponsored by
UNIVERSAL NETWORK TELEVISION
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NBC
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...AND BROUGHT TO YOU BY
THE STYLISH 2004 TOYOTA CAMRY.
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GET THE FEELING.
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about 50, five-nine to five
eleven, 190 to 200 pounds.
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Dismembered postmortem.
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Amputation was done using
a very sharp utensil.
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Blood was drained before
the body parts were wrapped.
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Sounds like
a neat freak.
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Yeah, meticulous,
to say the least.
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Cause of death?
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No head, no heart,
no way to tell.
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Time of death?
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Given the cold weather,
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I'd say roughly 24 hours before
the first pieces were found.
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Absence of rodent feeding
makes me think
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they were in the garbage no more
than a couple of hours.
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Victim had arthritis.
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Both knees had
arthroscopic surgery.
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And I'm betting he used a cane.
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The palm of his right hand
is callused.
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Doctor Rodgers,
you brought your
"A" game today.
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You got a home address
for us, too?
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No, but smell his hand.
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Menthol?
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Mentholated propylene glycol.
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Pro-pa what?
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It's hand sanitizer.
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There's a mentholated version
for people with arthritis.
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He used some shortly
before his death.
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Here we've have the contents
of the garbage bag
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from Sixth Street,
where the first hand was found.
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That's from
the Fourth Street Dumpster.
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The Fifth Street garbage.
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And the garbage can
from St. Marks Place
and Second Avenue,
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which covers everything
we've found so far.
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And?
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People from St. Marks Place eat
too much Thai takeout.
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Okay, you're not
in the mood.
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The bags that held body parts
were all one brand--
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'Tough Boy' five gallon.
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Not one of your major brands.
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But one other
Tough Boy bag
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was found in
the Fourth Street Dumpster,
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full of nothing but
ordinary household garbage.
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But it could be
the victims...
or the killer's.
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Or some third party who
just happens to use
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the same brand trash bag.
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You get any
usable prints?
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Nope. Just smears.
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Runner's Digest?
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Our guy used a cane.
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Anybody can dream.
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Somebody cut out page 35.
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And somebody liked
fruit. A lot.
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I like fruit.
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Yeah, but when
you buy it, where do you go?
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Supermarket?
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Heaven forbid.
Fruit stand.
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So if this is
the victim's garbage...
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With his knees,
he probably shopped
close to home.
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There's a whole lot of fruit
stands in the East Village.
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What the hell, maybe I can pick
up a couple of Granny Smiths.
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Tell ya what, more than once,
I thought about
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cracking that numskull
over the head
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with that freakin'
cane of his.
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What a pain in the culo.
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Guy gets one bad apple,
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tells me I should give him
a dozen free.
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Hey, you know his name?
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He's a customer, not
a bowling buddy. Why?
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Something happen to him?
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What makes you say that?
Wishful thinking.
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You know where he lives?
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You ever deliver
groceries to him?
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This is not
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a full-service fruit stand,
Detective.
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Strictly cash and carry.
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Hey, is that hand sanitizer?
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Anti-bacterial.
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Flu season--
I can't take a chance.
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It won't help.
The flu's a virus.
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I haven't had so much as
a sniffle in two years.
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That's like taking antibiotics
for a cold,
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it's a scam.
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You sell this stuff?
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Maxson's-Around-the-Corner.
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Around the corner where?
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That's the name of it.
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Maxson's-Around-the-Corner.
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Sure, I know Roger. Why?
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Do you know where
we can find him?
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He lives in the neighb.
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In here all the time.
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He's like dandruff,
you can't get rid of him.
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Roger have a last name?
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Obnoxious?
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Like it's my fault the price
of coffee went up?
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Hey, does Roger Obnoxious
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ever pay with a credit card
or a check?
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We don't take credit cards,
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and we definitely don't take
checks from guys like Roger.
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Do you carry
Runner's Digest?
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Magazines are in the back
by the pet food.
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How'd you know?
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How'd he know what?
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Roger bought a copy
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of Runner's Digest.
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Did you remember that
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'cause Roger got bad knees?
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I remember that 'cause Roger
never bought
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anything but skin mags.
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Okay, we're looking for a
crotchety 50-year-old
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black or Latino pain-in-the-ass
who walks with a limp,
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uses a cane and likes to look
at dirty pictures.
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And who's training
for the marathon.
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Page 35.
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The one that was cut out.
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Somehow I don't think this guy's
a marathon man.
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What's on the other side?
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There you go.
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What, the ad?
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I don't think a guy
with bad knees
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who complains about the price
of coffee
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is going to be looking at
$300 running shoes.
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Not the shoes,
the dude in the shoes.
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Now you're telling me
he's got a crush on this guy?
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What about the girlie magazines?
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Maybe he swings both ways.
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Great. So now we're
looking for
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a bisexual 50-year-old pain
in the ass
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who walks with limp, carries a
cane, and whistles "Dixie"
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as he walks down the highway.
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His name's Roger Barry.
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Haven't seen him in ten years.
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And you're right,
he's not a runner.
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He was a boxer.
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Oh, yeah? What name did
he fight under?
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Dad. Daddy Dearest.
The Old Man.
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Roger's your father?
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My mom finally got tired
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of being his punching bag,
and split.
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Took me with her.
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Haven't seen him since.
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If you haven't been
in touch with him
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all these years,
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how'd he know about
your picture in the magazine?
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Called me up
out of the blue.
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Said he wanted to know
how I turned out.
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So I told him about the ad.
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Let him eat his heart out
for a change.
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You got an address
for your father?
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That much forgive and forget
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I was definitely
not interested in.
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What's this all about, anyway?
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He in trouble?
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We're just trying to find him,
that's all.
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Sorry.
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You got a phone number?
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Told me he
didn't have one.
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Must've called me
from a pay phone.
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What'd your dad do
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after he hung up the gloves?
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Longshoreman.
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Thanks.
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The Union's must
have had
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to send his pension checks
someplace.
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Mr. Barry won't like this.
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Of course, he don't like
much of anything.
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Say, don't you need
a warrant or something?
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We would if we suspected
Mr. Barry of wrongdoing.
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Well, he still won't like it.
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Hey, Ed.
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Yeah.
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Does this look like
blood to you?
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Yep. I'm calling CSU.
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Something happened to that
rat bastard in my building?
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It's a little
too soon to tell.
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Something happened to him,
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I know some people who are
going to start celebrating.
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Well, good,
and you're going
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to give me their names,
aren't you.
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Yeah, apartment 2-E.
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Just go downstairs
and read the buzzers.
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Whole building
complained about him.
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CSU's on their way.
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Who complained
the loudest?
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Manny Esperanza,
down the hall.
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Said Mr. Barry was
stealing his newspapers.
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Oh, yeah? Where can
we find this guy?
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St. Jude's Hospital.
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He's an orderly.
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That would give him access
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to things that go
cut in the night.
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I don't know what happened
to Mr. Barry.
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I'm a medical professional.
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Yeah. You and Dr. Kervorkian.
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He don't work here.
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Look, look, I'm on
triple shifts.
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I ain't even been home
the last three days.
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Talk to my supervisor.
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Don't worry, we will.
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Why you busting my chops?
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Everybody in the building
hated his guts.
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Ask his girlfriend.
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She's going to say that
everybody hated him?
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She'll tell you, the thing
with the newspapers?
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He started it.
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Course she's deaf, she couldn't
hear what kind of nonsense
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was coming out
of his big mouth.
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What an unpleasant
personality.
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This girlfriend
have a name?
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Jennifer something...
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Do you know where she lives?
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Across the hall from him.
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00:08:47,736 --> 00:08:50,155
Don't you need probable cause
for a warrant?
260
00:08:50,238 --> 00:08:51,322
You're a judge now?
261
00:08:51,406 --> 00:08:52,532
I'm just saying...
262
00:08:53,742 --> 00:08:55,577
Sorry, Irv. This is
where you get off.
263
00:08:57,662 --> 00:08:59,873
Got a yearbook here.
264
00:08:59,956 --> 00:09:01,374
Cedar Hill Academy.
265
00:09:01,458 --> 00:09:02,917
Shelby... Shelby...
266
00:09:03,043 --> 00:09:03,918
Here she is.
267
00:09:04,044 --> 00:09:05,003
Jennifer Shelby.
268
00:09:05,086 --> 00:09:06,880
Her back in
high school, anyway.
269
00:09:06,963 --> 00:09:09,591
She graduated
from Cedar Hill,
class of '79.
270
00:09:09,674 --> 00:09:12,761
From fancy girls' school
to a crappy one-room apartment?
271
00:09:12,886 --> 00:09:15,430
Maybe we should pay
Cedar Hill a visit.
272
00:09:15,513 --> 00:09:17,849
I think they're on
the Upper East Side.
273
00:09:17,974 --> 00:09:18,933
Hey, Ed.
274
00:09:22,729 --> 00:09:23,813
Whoa.
275
00:09:23,897 --> 00:09:26,441
You can do some serious
damage with that bad boy.
276
00:09:26,524 --> 00:09:28,860
Yeah, like take somebody apart
joint by joint.
277
00:09:28,943 --> 00:09:29,903
Looks pretty clean.
278
00:09:30,028 --> 00:09:30,904
Wait a minute.
279
00:09:30,945 --> 00:09:33,740
There's a little
residue here at
the handle.
280
00:09:33,865 --> 00:09:36,701
Man, CSU's going to get sick
of coming to this building.
281
00:09:42,248 --> 00:09:43,541
Jennifer hasn't been
to any events
282
00:09:43,625 --> 00:09:45,710
since I've been alumni director
at Cedar Hill.
283
00:09:45,794 --> 00:09:46,878
Is that
because she's deaf?
284
00:09:46,961 --> 00:09:48,046
Whatever gave you that idea?
285
00:09:48,129 --> 00:09:50,757
In fact, I spoke to her
on the phone just last month
286
00:09:50,882 --> 00:09:51,883
about the Annual Fund.
287
00:09:51,966 --> 00:09:53,218
Annual Fund? Wait a minute.
288
00:09:53,343 --> 00:09:55,095
The Jennifer Shelby
that we're looking for
289
00:09:55,220 --> 00:09:57,263
lives in a six-story walkup
on East 4th Street.
290
00:09:57,347 --> 00:09:59,891
Are you sure you have
the right Jennifer Shelby?
291
00:09:59,974 --> 00:10:02,143
You know what?
You tell us.
292
00:10:02,268 --> 00:10:06,940
This Jennifer-- our Jennifer--
lives on 63rd and Park.
293
00:10:07,023 --> 00:10:09,609
She's married to Ross Teller.
294
00:10:09,734 --> 00:10:11,403
The real estate mogul?
295
00:10:11,528 --> 00:10:13,446
That's right.
What's this all about?
296
00:10:13,571 --> 00:10:15,657
Are you talking to every
Jennifer Shelby
297
00:10:15,740 --> 00:10:16,700
in New York City?
298
00:10:16,825 --> 00:10:18,118
How many of us
can there be?
299
00:10:18,243 --> 00:10:19,869
This Jennifer Shelby
had a copy
300
00:10:19,995 --> 00:10:21,913
of the Cedar Hill Academy
yearbook, 1979.
301
00:10:21,996 --> 00:10:23,832
You mean, she's
impersonating me
302
00:10:23,957 --> 00:10:25,917
and her name really isn't
Jennifer Shelby.
303
00:10:26,042 --> 00:10:27,502
That's what
it looks like.
304
00:10:27,585 --> 00:10:29,921
How the hell did she get
a copy of the yearbook?
305
00:10:30,004 --> 00:10:31,589
People clean out
their closets--
306
00:10:31,673 --> 00:10:32,882
put things on the street.
307
00:10:32,966 --> 00:10:34,384
What did this person
do, anyway?
308
00:10:34,509 --> 00:10:36,594
She's a suspect in
a murder investigation.
309
00:10:39,973 --> 00:10:41,015
Evan Barry gave us DNA.
310
00:10:41,099 --> 00:10:43,184
The dismembered body is
his father, Roger Barry.
311
00:10:43,309 --> 00:10:45,311
The blood that we found
in Roger Barry's bathtub drain
312
00:10:45,395 --> 00:10:46,521
matches the blood
on the knife
313
00:10:46,604 --> 00:10:48,857
that we found in the fake
Jennifer Shelby's apartment.
314
00:10:48,940 --> 00:10:50,483
And all that blood belongs to?
315
00:10:50,567 --> 00:10:51,693
Roger Barry.
316
00:10:51,735 --> 00:10:53,695
We know where he was cut up
and what he got cut up with.
317
00:10:53,778 --> 00:10:54,821
And the real Jennifer Shelby?
318
00:10:54,904 --> 00:10:56,156
She's as baffled
as we are.
319
00:10:56,281 --> 00:10:57,782
She has no idea who
this other woman is.
320
00:10:57,866 --> 00:11:00,869
We've got plainclothes officers
sitting on her apartment,
321
00:11:00,994 --> 00:11:02,412
just in case she returns.
322
00:11:02,537 --> 00:11:04,706
Whoever she is, she had
to pay the rent.
323
00:11:08,668 --> 00:11:11,796
Only met her once, when she came
in to sign the lease.
324
00:11:11,921 --> 00:11:13,214
Roger Barry referred her.
325
00:11:13,298 --> 00:11:15,300
I can't believe
he's dead. Shocking.
326
00:11:15,425 --> 00:11:17,010
She put down
a security deposit?
327
00:11:17,093 --> 00:11:18,887
Yeah, first
and last month's. Cash.
328
00:11:19,012 --> 00:11:19,971
I remember that.
329
00:11:20,055 --> 00:11:22,307
Nice new crisp new
hundred dollar bills.
330
00:11:22,390 --> 00:11:24,684
How did she pay the rent
every month?
331
00:11:24,768 --> 00:11:25,727
Money order.
332
00:11:25,810 --> 00:11:26,811
Uh, we need copies.
333
00:11:26,895 --> 00:11:27,979
Not a problem.
334
00:11:28,063 --> 00:11:29,856
I hope she's not in trouble.
335
00:11:29,939 --> 00:11:31,858
Hey, she's
the perfect tenant.
336
00:11:31,983 --> 00:11:34,444
Never complains--
not a peep out of her.
337
00:11:35,362 --> 00:11:37,364
Funny. Just get us
the money orders.
338
00:11:37,447 --> 00:11:39,157
Sure, I sold these.
339
00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:40,658
Jennifer Shelby...
340
00:11:40,742 --> 00:11:42,702
Yeah, late 30s, early 40s,
341
00:11:42,827 --> 00:11:44,871
thin, brown hair, deaf.
342
00:11:44,996 --> 00:11:46,581
Oh, the deaf lady, sure.
343
00:11:46,664 --> 00:11:47,707
You seen her lately?
344
00:11:47,791 --> 00:11:48,833
About once a month.
345
00:11:48,875 --> 00:11:51,586
Comes in here, buys one
for rent, one for Con Ed.
346
00:11:51,669 --> 00:11:53,838
I ain't seen her
since last month. Sorry.
347
00:11:53,922 --> 00:11:55,548
All right, man,
thanks.
348
00:11:55,632 --> 00:11:56,674
Hey, wait.
349
00:11:56,716 --> 00:11:58,968
My friend Jaime told me
he seen her at a meeting.
350
00:11:59,094 --> 00:12:01,763
What kind of meeting?
You know, not AA.
351
00:12:01,888 --> 00:12:03,640
What's the other one?
For drugs?
352
00:12:03,723 --> 00:12:04,974
NA? Narcotics Anonymous?
353
00:12:05,100 --> 00:12:06,559
Yeah, that's it.
At the church.
354
00:12:06,643 --> 00:12:09,729
St. Alphonsus Liguri.
Fourth and A.
355
00:12:09,854 --> 00:12:11,690
All right.
356
00:12:11,815 --> 00:12:13,775
You know, we're not allowed
to talk about who's here
357
00:12:13,858 --> 00:12:16,194
and what goes on,
and as far as last names go...
358
00:12:16,277 --> 00:12:17,904
Believe me,
I know the drill.
359
00:12:18,029 --> 00:12:18,947
You a friend of Bill's?
360
00:12:19,030 --> 00:12:20,532
Yep, for many years.
361
00:12:20,615 --> 00:12:22,242
Then you know
my hands are tied.
362
00:12:22,367 --> 00:12:23,868
They're gonna be
in handcuffs in a minute
363
00:12:23,994 --> 00:12:24,953
if you don't
start talking.
364
00:12:24,995 --> 00:12:27,247
This woman's wanted
for questioning in a murder.
365
00:12:27,330 --> 00:12:29,290
Jennifer Shelby?
A murder?
366
00:12:29,374 --> 00:12:31,084
Am I getting through
to you now, Marty?
367
00:12:31,209 --> 00:12:32,752
Well, she's been
at a bunch of meetings.
368
00:12:32,836 --> 00:12:34,671
She's a nice girl
far as I can tell.
369
00:12:34,754 --> 00:12:36,923
She's deaf-- how'd
she participate?
370
00:12:37,006 --> 00:12:38,049
Well, she reads lips.
371
00:12:38,133 --> 00:12:39,551
Somehow she manages.
372
00:12:39,634 --> 00:12:41,469
We offered to get her
an interpreter,
373
00:12:41,594 --> 00:12:43,096
but she wasn't interested.
374
00:12:43,179 --> 00:12:44,806
When was the last
time she was here?
375
00:12:44,889 --> 00:12:46,099
Last week.
376
00:12:46,182 --> 00:12:48,518
By the way,
Mr. Narcotics Anonymous,
377
00:12:48,601 --> 00:12:50,478
how come you know
her last name?
378
00:12:50,562 --> 00:12:52,397
She was handing out
these flyers.
379
00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,024
She's got a painting hanging
380
00:12:54,107 --> 00:12:57,527
in this gallery show
down the street.
381
00:12:57,610 --> 00:13:00,739
She never gave me
a contact number. Sorry.
382
00:13:00,822 --> 00:13:02,699
What if you sold
one of her paintings?
383
00:13:02,824 --> 00:13:06,327
I hold the money for
her till she gets in
touch with me.
384
00:13:06,453 --> 00:13:07,871
That's Jenny's.
385
00:13:07,954 --> 00:13:12,250
It's a lot like her--
mysterious, brooding, secretive.
386
00:13:12,333 --> 00:13:13,585
I kind of like it.
387
00:13:13,668 --> 00:13:15,628
I don't know
if I could live with it, but...
388
00:13:15,712 --> 00:13:18,048
My idea of modern art
is Leroy Neiman.
389
00:13:18,131 --> 00:13:19,466
She signed it.
It's dated last month.
390
00:13:19,591 --> 00:13:20,842
You know what, she didn't have
391
00:13:20,967 --> 00:13:23,178
any paints in her apartment--
canvasses, nothing.
392
00:13:23,261 --> 00:13:25,096
A lot of our artists
rent studio space
393
00:13:25,180 --> 00:13:26,848
in the Co-op on Avenue C.
394
00:13:26,931 --> 00:13:28,391
You're in luck.
395
00:13:28,475 --> 00:13:29,976
Jen's been here all day.
396
00:13:30,101 --> 00:13:31,519
She's on a creative jag.
397
00:13:31,644 --> 00:13:34,898
I used to have those,
only I called them benders.
398
00:13:34,981 --> 00:13:37,025
This's Jen's studio.
I'll let you guys be.
399
00:13:37,150 --> 00:13:38,526
Uh, would you mind
unlocking the door?
400
00:13:38,652 --> 00:13:39,944
She's not gonna
hear us knock.
401
00:13:40,028 --> 00:13:41,654
Right, I forgot.
402
00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:46,576
There you go.
403
00:13:46,659 --> 00:13:48,286
Thanks.
404
00:13:52,123 --> 00:13:53,833
How do we get
her attention?
405
00:13:53,917 --> 00:13:55,168
I don't want
to scare her.
406
00:13:55,251 --> 00:13:57,962
Maybe she can feel vibration.
407
00:14:00,131 --> 00:14:01,925
Whoa, wait!
408
00:14:02,050 --> 00:14:03,009
Hey, hey, hey!
409
00:14:03,134 --> 00:14:06,012
All right...
410
00:14:13,061 --> 00:14:14,562
People v. Eli Madison.
411
00:14:14,646 --> 00:14:16,648
Charge is murder
in the second degree.
412
00:14:16,731 --> 00:14:18,525
How does the defendant plead?
413
00:14:18,608 --> 00:14:19,818
Not guilty, Your Honor.
414
00:14:19,943 --> 00:14:20,819
Ms. Southerlyn?
415
00:14:20,902 --> 00:14:22,696
The accused is charged
with murdering
416
00:14:22,821 --> 00:14:25,573
his 50-year-old neighbor
and hacking him into pieces.
417
00:14:25,699 --> 00:14:27,200
I imagine you're
requesting remand.
418
00:14:27,325 --> 00:14:28,660
Your turn, Mr. Archer.
419
00:14:28,785 --> 00:14:31,538
Mr. Madison is a scion
of one of New York's
best known families.
420
00:14:31,621 --> 00:14:32,247
Yes, and I
remember reading
421
00:14:32,330 --> 00:14:33,665
about him in all the papers,
422
00:14:33,748 --> 00:14:35,000
what was it, ten years ago?
423
00:14:35,125 --> 00:14:37,669
Those accusations
were false, Your Honor.
424
00:14:37,752 --> 00:14:39,337
They shouldn't be taken
into consideration now.
425
00:14:39,421 --> 00:14:40,630
The defendant
has been living
426
00:14:40,755 --> 00:14:42,173
under an assumed name.
427
00:14:42,257 --> 00:14:45,260
To avoid the negative publicity
that almost destroyed him.
428
00:14:45,343 --> 00:14:47,262
Jennifer Shelby, Your Honor.
429
00:14:47,345 --> 00:14:49,014
Excuse me, Counselor?
His assumed name
430
00:14:49,097 --> 00:14:52,183
and false identity--
he's been living as
a woman, Your Honor.
431
00:14:52,267 --> 00:14:54,019
Better and better.
432
00:14:54,144 --> 00:14:55,228
Bail is set at $2 million.
433
00:14:55,353 --> 00:14:56,855
Defendant will surrender
434
00:14:56,938 --> 00:14:58,106
his passport.
435
00:14:58,189 --> 00:15:01,401
Next.
436
00:15:01,484 --> 00:15:02,318
Is this the same
Eli Madison
437
00:15:02,444 --> 00:15:04,279
whose wife went missing
ten years ago?
438
00:15:04,362 --> 00:15:05,488
The same Eli Madison
439
00:15:05,613 --> 00:15:08,283
Adam Schiff could never quite
indict for her murder.
440
00:15:08,408 --> 00:15:09,659
Why not?
441
00:15:09,784 --> 00:15:11,369
Because her body
was never found.
442
00:15:11,494 --> 00:15:14,289
Eli claimed she just
walked out on him one day.
443
00:15:14,372 --> 00:15:15,915
She's never
been seen since.
444
00:15:15,999 --> 00:15:17,625
How good a case was it?
445
00:15:17,751 --> 00:15:21,379
The police found traces
of Caroline Madison's blood
446
00:15:21,463 --> 00:15:24,049
in their bedroom,
evidence of a missing rug,
447
00:15:24,174 --> 00:15:26,926
and a dryer full
of freshly washed sheets.
448
00:15:27,052 --> 00:15:29,346
That had to be
quite a sight,
449
00:15:29,429 --> 00:15:31,097
Eli Madison doing
his own laundry.
450
00:15:31,222 --> 00:15:34,142
Eli could never really account
for his movements that day.
451
00:15:34,267 --> 00:15:36,394
Lots of gaps
and inconsistencies,
452
00:15:36,478 --> 00:15:39,189
and his alibi
was his best friend.
453
00:15:39,272 --> 00:15:40,940
And after the story broke
454
00:15:41,066 --> 00:15:44,361
and Madison was questioned by
the police, he fled the country.
455
00:15:44,444 --> 00:15:46,029
Evidence of consciousness
of guilt.
456
00:15:46,154 --> 00:15:47,447
It sounds pretty solid.
457
00:15:47,530 --> 00:15:50,575
Lots of bits and pieces,
but never quite enough.
458
00:15:50,700 --> 00:15:52,410
And the Madisons had clout.
459
00:15:52,494 --> 00:15:54,245
This office has tried
a couple of homicides
460
00:15:54,329 --> 00:15:57,374
without a body, but I wouldn't
necessarily recommend it.
461
00:15:57,499 --> 00:15:59,376
What about this case?
462
00:15:59,459 --> 00:16:01,378
We have a body.
Most of one, anyway.
463
00:16:01,503 --> 00:16:02,921
Unfortunately,
not the parts
464
00:16:03,004 --> 00:16:04,297
that would tell us
cause of death.
465
00:16:04,381 --> 00:16:05,423
What are we missing?
466
00:16:05,507 --> 00:16:07,425
The head, the heart.
467
00:16:07,509 --> 00:16:09,135
We'll have to trust
the jury to draw
468
00:16:09,260 --> 00:16:10,303
the obvious conclusion.
469
00:16:10,428 --> 00:16:11,763
Which may not be
all that obvious
470
00:16:11,888 --> 00:16:13,932
when it comes time
to deliberate.
471
00:16:14,015 --> 00:16:15,266
He's got Al Archer,
472
00:16:15,350 --> 00:16:18,853
who will blow a lot of expensive
smoke up the jury's skirt.
473
00:16:18,937 --> 00:16:21,356
We can handle Archer and
his legions of experts, Arthur.
474
00:16:21,481 --> 00:16:22,691
He also churns
475
00:16:22,774 --> 00:16:25,318
more documents than the Land
O' Lakes girl churns butter.
476
00:16:25,443 --> 00:16:26,611
Let him churn.
477
00:16:26,736 --> 00:16:27,654
The facts don't disappear.
478
00:16:27,779 --> 00:16:29,030
No, but they
can be spun,
479
00:16:29,114 --> 00:16:31,282
along with the jury.
480
00:16:31,366 --> 00:16:34,202
And I'd feel a lot better
if we had a motive.
481
00:16:36,871 --> 00:16:39,374
Well, let the churning begin.
482
00:16:39,457 --> 00:16:43,545
Motion for
a change of venue.
483
00:16:43,628 --> 00:16:46,631
Had I known, I'd have rented
484
00:16:46,756 --> 00:16:48,717
a banquet hall.
485
00:16:48,842 --> 00:16:50,301
Well, because of the nature
of the case
486
00:16:50,385 --> 00:16:53,346
and the difficulty and the
variety of the issues involved,
487
00:16:53,430 --> 00:16:54,723
Mr. Madison has authorized me
488
00:16:54,848 --> 00:16:56,891
to retain cocounsel
on his behalf.
489
00:16:57,017 --> 00:16:58,893
This is Ron Gumer
from Hanson Brackens.
490
00:16:58,977 --> 00:17:00,895
He'll be advising
on matters forensic.
491
00:17:00,979 --> 00:17:02,022
Your Honor.
492
00:17:02,105 --> 00:17:03,982
Madeline Myers from
the Prescott firm.
493
00:17:04,065 --> 00:17:06,067
She'll be dealing
with the DNA evidence.
494
00:17:06,151 --> 00:17:09,195
Sir.
And Professor Enright,
who I'm sure you know,
495
00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,031
wrote the book
on venue, literally.
496
00:17:11,114 --> 00:17:13,241
The more the merrier.
497
00:17:13,366 --> 00:17:15,493
I assume this is your party,
Professor.
Thank you, Your Honor.
498
00:17:15,577 --> 00:17:19,247
As we're all aware, the
critical consideration
499
00:17:19,330 --> 00:17:22,167
of the venue provisions
is whether the defendant
500
00:17:22,250 --> 00:17:23,501
can get a fair trial
501
00:17:23,585 --> 00:17:26,296
in the community
in which the
crime occurred.
502
00:17:26,421 --> 00:17:30,383
"Millionaire Murderer."
503
00:17:30,467 --> 00:17:32,385
"Mayflower Maniac."
504
00:17:32,510 --> 00:17:35,263
"Seven-Figure Sadist."
505
00:17:35,346 --> 00:17:36,848
"Wealthy Wife Killer."
506
00:17:36,973 --> 00:17:38,767
As we can see
from these headlines,
507
00:17:38,850 --> 00:17:40,352
a jury in this jurisdiction
508
00:17:40,435 --> 00:17:43,480
cannot possibly approach
this case with an open mind.
509
00:17:43,605 --> 00:17:45,482
The entire jury pool
has been poisoned.
510
00:17:45,565 --> 00:17:47,567
Those headlines
are ten years old.
511
00:17:47,651 --> 00:17:49,527
The case at bar
does not involve
512
00:17:49,653 --> 00:17:51,529
Caroline Madison's
disappearance.
513
00:17:51,613 --> 00:17:53,990
Caroline Madison's family
514
00:17:54,115 --> 00:17:55,825
kept her disappearance
at the forefront
515
00:17:55,950 --> 00:17:57,994
of the city's consciousness
with its very public
516
00:17:58,078 --> 00:17:59,871
wrongful death lawsuit
against our client.
517
00:17:59,954 --> 00:18:00,955
And may I remind
518
00:18:01,039 --> 00:18:03,249
Your Honor that
that case was dismissed
519
00:18:03,375 --> 00:18:06,336
only after six years
of litigation and publicity.
520
00:18:06,461 --> 00:18:09,297
And where would you have me
transfer the case, Mr. Archer?
521
00:18:09,422 --> 00:18:12,425
Suffolk County would be
satisfactory to the defense.
522
00:18:12,509 --> 00:18:13,760
The Hamptons?
523
00:18:13,843 --> 00:18:15,553
Why not hold the trial
in the lounge
524
00:18:15,637 --> 00:18:17,555
of Eli Madison's country club?
525
00:18:17,639 --> 00:18:20,392
Your Honor,
any prior knowledge
of Mr. Madison's
526
00:18:20,475 --> 00:18:24,104
first run-in with the law
can be dealt with on voir dire.
527
00:18:24,187 --> 00:18:27,232
I agree, Mr. McCoy.
Defense motion is denied.
528
00:18:27,315 --> 00:18:29,943
In that case, Your Honor,
I move to preclude any mention
529
00:18:30,026 --> 00:18:31,778
of Ms. Madison's
disappearance.
530
00:18:31,861 --> 00:18:32,946
The People oppose the request.
531
00:18:33,071 --> 00:18:34,781
On what grounds?
You just said,
532
00:18:34,864 --> 00:18:36,366
"The case at bar doesn't involve
533
00:18:36,449 --> 00:18:37,909
Caroline Madison's
disappearance."
534
00:18:38,034 --> 00:18:39,327
Those are your
words, Mr. McCoy.
535
00:18:39,411 --> 00:18:42,080
He's changing the context,
Your Honor.
No, Mr. McCoy.
536
00:18:42,205 --> 00:18:44,582
If it involves
Mrs. Madison's disappearance,
537
00:18:44,708 --> 00:18:47,168
it will not be admissible
in my courtroom.
538
00:18:49,879 --> 00:18:52,841
I analyzed blood
539
00:18:52,924 --> 00:18:54,634
found in the decedent's bathroom
540
00:18:54,759 --> 00:18:57,595
and on the knife found
in the defendant's apartment,
541
00:18:57,721 --> 00:18:59,973
as well as the body parts
found by the police.
542
00:19:00,056 --> 00:19:01,599
How many matches
did you find?
543
00:19:01,683 --> 00:19:03,351
Nine.
Based on
your analysis,
544
00:19:03,435 --> 00:19:05,186
have you reached a conclusion?
545
00:19:05,270 --> 00:19:07,981
The DNA samples
are from the same individual.
546
00:19:08,064 --> 00:19:10,525
The blood on the knife
in Mr. Madison's apartment,
547
00:19:10,608 --> 00:19:13,987
the blood in Mr. Barry's bathtub
548
00:19:14,112 --> 00:19:17,324
and the body parts--
all the same DNA?
549
00:19:17,449 --> 00:19:18,742
Yes.
550
00:19:20,910 --> 00:19:22,162
Specifically, Doctor,
551
00:19:22,245 --> 00:19:24,539
what analytic method
did your lab use?
552
00:19:24,622 --> 00:19:27,500
PCR. Polymerase Chain Reaction.
553
00:19:27,584 --> 00:19:29,544
That's it?
554
00:19:29,627 --> 00:19:31,629
Yes.
You didn't use SNIPS?
555
00:19:31,713 --> 00:19:33,506
Single Nucleotide Polymorphism
Analysis.
556
00:19:33,631 --> 00:19:34,549
No.
557
00:19:34,632 --> 00:19:36,217
Or Short Tandem
Repeat Technology?
558
00:19:36,343 --> 00:19:37,385
No.
559
00:19:37,469 --> 00:19:39,554
Can I ask why?
PCR analysis
560
00:19:39,637 --> 00:19:40,972
is accurate and sufficient.
561
00:19:41,056 --> 00:19:42,640
I didn't think it was necessary
562
00:19:42,724 --> 00:19:45,060
to verify further
with additional modalities.
563
00:19:45,185 --> 00:19:46,478
Mm. Well,
without having conducted
564
00:19:46,561 --> 00:19:49,564
those additional analyses,
can you testify that the results
565
00:19:49,647 --> 00:19:51,566
would be the same?
No, I can't, but...
566
00:19:51,691 --> 00:19:54,152
Nothing further.
567
00:19:57,405 --> 00:20:02,494
Detective Green,
I show you People's Exhibit A.
568
00:20:02,577 --> 00:20:03,870
Do you recognize it?
569
00:20:03,995 --> 00:20:06,873
That's the knife that we found
in Jennifer Shelby's-- uh...
570
00:20:06,956 --> 00:20:08,541
Eli Madison's apartment.
571
00:20:08,666 --> 00:20:10,043
What did you do with it?
572
00:20:10,126 --> 00:20:11,920
Well, we observed some residue
573
00:20:12,045 --> 00:20:13,630
on the knife that
looked like dried blood,
574
00:20:13,713 --> 00:20:15,256
so we followed
standard procedure
575
00:20:15,382 --> 00:20:18,093
to preserve the chain of custody
and protect the evidence
576
00:20:18,218 --> 00:20:20,345
from contamination,
and then we sent it
577
00:20:20,470 --> 00:20:21,888
to the lab to be analyzed.
578
00:20:21,971 --> 00:20:23,390
No further questions,
579
00:20:23,515 --> 00:20:24,474
Your Honor.
580
00:20:26,142 --> 00:20:29,020
Detective Green...
did you do a thorough inventory
581
00:20:29,104 --> 00:20:31,356
of the contents
of the defendant's apartment?
582
00:20:31,481 --> 00:20:33,983
Yes, we did.
And were there
other knives in
583
00:20:34,109 --> 00:20:35,193
the defendant's kitchen?
Yes.
584
00:20:35,318 --> 00:20:37,028
Other sharp knives,
for cooking or whatever?
585
00:20:37,112 --> 00:20:38,613
There was a set of knives
of various sizes,
586
00:20:38,697 --> 00:20:40,281
and a cutting board.
So was this knife,
587
00:20:40,365 --> 00:20:42,617
the one that you just
entered into evidence,
588
00:20:42,742 --> 00:20:43,660
part of that set?
No.
589
00:20:43,743 --> 00:20:45,161
No. How was it different?
590
00:20:45,286 --> 00:20:47,747
Well, that knife
is quite a bit larger,
591
00:20:47,831 --> 00:20:48,915
and the handle
is different.
592
00:20:48,999 --> 00:20:50,250
So this knife
doesn't resemble
593
00:20:50,333 --> 00:20:52,502
any of the other knives
in the kitchen.
594
00:20:53,753 --> 00:20:56,214
No. Not really.
595
00:20:56,297 --> 00:20:58,049
Hm.
596
00:20:59,801 --> 00:21:01,761
I compared the incisions
597
00:21:01,886 --> 00:21:04,139
and markings on the flesh
and bone of the decedent
598
00:21:04,264 --> 00:21:06,391
with the structural
characteristics of the knife.
599
00:21:06,474 --> 00:21:09,811
Could this particular knife have
been used to cut up the body?
600
00:21:09,894 --> 00:21:11,604
Yes. The bone and
flesh incisions
601
00:21:11,688 --> 00:21:15,150
are consistent with the cutting
characteristics of this knife.
602
00:21:17,569 --> 00:21:21,156
"Consistent with."
603
00:21:21,281 --> 00:21:23,616
That's not the same
as "the same," is it?
604
00:21:23,742 --> 00:21:25,660
No.
605
00:21:25,785 --> 00:21:27,454
This knife...
606
00:21:27,537 --> 00:21:29,956
might have been used
to dismember the body.
607
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:31,791
Yes.
But you can't be sure.
608
00:21:31,916 --> 00:21:34,169
It lacks sufficient
distinguishing characteristics
609
00:21:34,252 --> 00:21:35,587
to make
a definitive identification.
610
00:21:35,670 --> 00:21:37,172
Is there any way
611
00:21:37,297 --> 00:21:39,007
to determine whether
this particular knife
612
00:21:39,090 --> 00:21:40,258
was used to kill Mr. Barry?
613
00:21:40,342 --> 00:21:43,136
Not in this case--
the knife lacks...
614
00:21:43,261 --> 00:21:45,513
sufficient...
Sufficient
distinguishing characteristics.
615
00:21:45,597 --> 00:21:47,682
Thank you.
616
00:21:47,807 --> 00:21:50,518
Oh, by the way, Doctor...
617
00:21:50,643 --> 00:21:53,188
what actually did kill
Mr. Barry?
618
00:21:53,271 --> 00:21:55,398
Was he, in fact,
stabbed to death?
619
00:21:55,523 --> 00:21:56,691
Or shot? Or bludgeoned?
620
00:21:56,775 --> 00:21:58,693
Or did he die of natural causes?
621
00:21:58,818 --> 00:22:00,111
A heart attack? A stroke?
622
00:22:00,195 --> 00:22:03,156
The cause is unknown
at this time.
623
00:22:03,239 --> 00:22:04,282
Why is that?
624
00:22:04,366 --> 00:22:06,326
We don't have enough
of Mr. Barry's remains
625
00:22:06,409 --> 00:22:10,914
to determine with medical
certainty the cause of death.
626
00:22:14,459 --> 00:22:16,753
When you kept Mr. Barry company
627
00:22:16,878 --> 00:22:19,005
on these occasions,
how were you dressed?
628
00:22:19,089 --> 00:22:21,508
As a woman. As Jennifer.
629
00:22:21,633 --> 00:22:23,301
He knew me as Jennifer.
630
00:22:23,385 --> 00:22:25,804
So, what happened
the night he died?
631
00:22:25,887 --> 00:22:29,140
I was in Roger's apartment.
632
00:22:29,265 --> 00:22:31,309
We were watching
a basketball game.
633
00:22:31,393 --> 00:22:34,312
I got caught up in it
and yelled something,
634
00:22:34,396 --> 00:22:35,730
in my real voice.
635
00:22:35,814 --> 00:22:37,732
And Mr. Barry?
He freaked.
636
00:22:37,816 --> 00:22:40,443
He realized
I wasn't really deaf...
637
00:22:40,568 --> 00:22:42,195
that I wasn't a woman.
638
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,906
And why would that matter
so much to him?
639
00:22:46,533 --> 00:22:48,618
Eli?
640
00:22:53,248 --> 00:22:55,709
We'd been... intimate.
641
00:22:55,792 --> 00:22:59,170
So you'd had sex
with Roger Barry?
Yes.
642
00:22:59,295 --> 00:23:01,172
And he still didn't know?
643
00:23:01,256 --> 00:23:03,758
I was good at putting him off
in certain ways.
644
00:23:03,883 --> 00:23:05,677
At deceiving him.
645
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,262
Yes.
646
00:23:07,387 --> 00:23:08,596
Mm.
647
00:23:08,722 --> 00:23:10,265
So he was upset, angry...?
648
00:23:10,348 --> 00:23:13,018
Furious. He hit me over and over
with his cane.
649
00:23:13,143 --> 00:23:14,561
He had a terrible temper.
650
00:23:14,644 --> 00:23:18,857
I was fending him off, and he...
651
00:23:18,982 --> 00:23:22,235
he made this
awful gasping noise.
652
00:23:22,318 --> 00:23:24,612
He dropped his cane,
clutched his chest
653
00:23:24,738 --> 00:23:26,114
and fell down.
654
00:23:26,197 --> 00:23:27,615
Then he turned blue.
655
00:23:27,699 --> 00:23:29,451
I guess he had a heart attack.
656
00:23:29,534 --> 00:23:30,827
I did CPR on him,
657
00:23:30,952 --> 00:23:33,705
it seemed like hours...
658
00:23:33,830 --> 00:23:35,999
but...
659
00:23:37,167 --> 00:23:39,836
So, Mr. Barry is lying there,
660
00:23:39,919 --> 00:23:42,881
dead, despite your best efforts
to revive him.
661
00:23:42,964 --> 00:23:44,632
So, what'd you do
next, Eli?
662
00:23:44,716 --> 00:23:46,217
I panicked.
Why?
663
00:23:46,301 --> 00:23:48,303
I knew what the police
would think.
664
00:23:48,386 --> 00:23:50,346
I couldn't have our relationship
665
00:23:50,472 --> 00:23:53,099
or my life
as Jennifer Shelby exposed,
666
00:23:53,224 --> 00:23:55,060
and I certainly
couldn't go to prison.
667
00:23:55,143 --> 00:23:57,479
I'd never survive.
668
00:23:57,604 --> 00:24:00,899
So I decided
to get rid of Roger's body.
669
00:24:00,982 --> 00:24:02,400
So that's when you went back
670
00:24:02,484 --> 00:24:04,402
to your apartment
to get that knife?
671
00:24:04,486 --> 00:24:06,237
That's not my knife.
672
00:24:06,321 --> 00:24:07,572
It isn't?
673
00:24:07,697 --> 00:24:09,157
I've never seen it before.
674
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,909
Besides, I didn't need one.
675
00:24:10,992 --> 00:24:12,661
Roger kept a metal
cutter in his closet.
676
00:24:12,786 --> 00:24:15,663
So the knife that the police
found in your apartment,
677
00:24:15,747 --> 00:24:18,124
the knife that doesn't match
any of the knives
678
00:24:18,249 --> 00:24:19,834
in your kitchen,
the knife that you say
679
00:24:19,918 --> 00:24:21,586
that you've never seen before,
680
00:24:21,670 --> 00:24:24,297
how did that knife
come to be in your apartment?
I have no idea.
681
00:24:24,422 --> 00:24:26,674
Well, how did Mr. Barry's blood
get on that knife?
682
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:27,717
I have no idea.
683
00:24:27,801 --> 00:24:28,843
I do.
684
00:24:28,927 --> 00:24:30,595
Objection! Chambers, Your Honor!
685
00:24:33,348 --> 00:24:35,433
Accusing the prosecution
of planting evidence...
686
00:24:35,517 --> 00:24:36,351
I didn't mean
687
00:24:36,434 --> 00:24:38,186
to imply you
personally, Mr. McCoy,
688
00:24:38,269 --> 00:24:40,480
but there is a long list of
people working for the state
689
00:24:40,563 --> 00:24:42,107
who have wanted
Mr. Madison in prison
690
00:24:42,190 --> 00:24:43,233
for the past ten years.
691
00:24:43,316 --> 00:24:44,818
There is no basis
in fact
692
00:24:44,943 --> 00:24:45,860
for these allegations.
693
00:24:45,986 --> 00:24:46,820
I will strike that remark.
694
00:24:46,945 --> 00:24:48,989
You can't unring
the bell, Your Honor.
695
00:24:49,072 --> 00:24:51,950
No, but I can issue
an instruction for the jury
696
00:24:52,033 --> 00:24:54,035
to ignore it,
Mr. McCoy.
697
00:24:56,538 --> 00:24:59,416
Mr. Barry kept a metal cutter
in his closet.
698
00:24:59,499 --> 00:25:02,627
He worked with his hands.
He made his own furniture.
699
00:25:02,711 --> 00:25:03,712
Quite a coincidence
700
00:25:03,753 --> 00:25:06,339
that the knife the police found
in your apartment
701
00:25:06,464 --> 00:25:09,134
has the same characteristics
as the metal cutter
702
00:25:09,217 --> 00:25:10,385
they didn't find.
703
00:25:10,510 --> 00:25:12,178
Do you know why
they didn't find it?
704
00:25:12,303 --> 00:25:15,015
I tossed it into one
of the Dumpsters.
705
00:25:15,098 --> 00:25:16,891
I guess
they didn't look hard enough.
706
00:25:16,975 --> 00:25:20,770
The police also failed
to find Mr. Barry's heart,
707
00:25:20,854 --> 00:25:23,023
which would have proved
or disproved
708
00:25:23,106 --> 00:25:25,567
your story
about a heart attack.
709
00:25:25,692 --> 00:25:26,901
I wish they had.
710
00:25:26,985 --> 00:25:29,904
An autopsy would
have exonerated me.
711
00:25:29,988 --> 00:25:30,864
You should have thought of that
712
00:25:30,989 --> 00:25:32,574
before you cut up
your boyfriend's body.
713
00:25:32,657 --> 00:25:33,825
Objection.
714
00:25:33,908 --> 00:25:36,703
Withdrawn.
You testified
715
00:25:36,786 --> 00:25:41,499
that you dismembered
Mr. Barry's body because, quote,
716
00:25:41,583 --> 00:25:45,295
you "knew what
the police would think."
717
00:25:45,378 --> 00:25:47,881
What were you afraid
the police would think?
718
00:25:48,006 --> 00:25:50,091
Approach, Your Honor?
719
00:25:53,136 --> 00:25:55,096
You've already ruled on this,
Your Honor.
720
00:25:55,221 --> 00:25:57,474
My client is being tried
for the murder of Roger Barry.
721
00:25:57,599 --> 00:25:59,726
Any mention
of his missing wife
722
00:25:59,809 --> 00:26:01,644
is prejudicial
and irrelevant.
723
00:26:01,770 --> 00:26:02,771
I didn't ask Mr. Madison
724
00:26:02,854 --> 00:26:05,273
about his wife's disappearance.
725
00:26:05,357 --> 00:26:06,566
I asked him
about his state of mind.
726
00:26:06,691 --> 00:26:08,902
Your client opened the door,
Mr. Archer.
727
00:26:09,027 --> 00:26:10,612
I'm going to allow it.
728
00:26:17,661 --> 00:26:20,246
What were you afraid the police
would think, Mr. Madison?
729
00:26:20,330 --> 00:26:22,082
That I killed him, too,
730
00:26:22,207 --> 00:26:24,417
just like you think
I killed my wife.
731
00:26:24,501 --> 00:26:25,418
You still think I killed
my wife,
732
00:26:25,543 --> 00:26:26,378
even though you know
you can't prove it.
733
00:26:26,461 --> 00:26:27,921
Your Honor...
734
00:26:28,046 --> 00:26:29,297
Because I didn't do it!
735
00:26:29,381 --> 00:26:30,882
They all think I killed my wife!
736
00:26:30,965 --> 00:26:32,300
But they couldn't prove anything
then,
737
00:26:32,425 --> 00:26:33,927
so that's why
they're setting me up now!
738
00:26:34,052 --> 00:26:34,928
Move to strike:
739
00:26:35,053 --> 00:26:36,388
Unresponsive.
740
00:26:36,471 --> 00:26:37,430
Stricken.
741
00:26:37,472 --> 00:26:40,392
Jury will disregard
the witness's last remark.
742
00:26:49,401 --> 00:26:50,986
Have you reached a verdict?
743
00:26:51,111 --> 00:26:51,987
We have.
744
00:26:52,070 --> 00:26:53,905
On the sole count
of the indictment,
745
00:26:53,989 --> 00:26:55,907
Murder in The Second Degree,
746
00:26:55,990 --> 00:26:57,242
how do you find?
747
00:26:57,325 --> 00:26:58,284
We find the defendant,
748
00:26:58,368 --> 00:27:00,537
Eli Madison, not guilty.
749
00:27:17,846 --> 00:27:19,806
I told you
Archer could blow smoke.
750
00:27:19,931 --> 00:27:21,349
It's like that old saying,
751
00:27:21,433 --> 00:27:23,810
"Who you gonna believe,
me or your lying eyes?"
752
00:27:23,893 --> 00:27:25,103
And they
believed Archer.
753
00:27:25,145 --> 00:27:27,772
Creating reasonable
doubt where none
exists costs money.
754
00:27:27,856 --> 00:27:28,648
And what?
755
00:27:28,690 --> 00:27:30,483
People like Eli Madison
are entitled
756
00:27:30,567 --> 00:27:32,652
to as much justice
as they can afford?
757
00:27:32,777 --> 00:27:33,820
At the end of the day,
758
00:27:33,862 --> 00:27:37,449
all we really proved
was that Eli Madison
cut up a body.
759
00:27:37,574 --> 00:27:39,826
I'm not done with
Eli Madison yet.
760
00:27:39,951 --> 00:27:41,244
What do you have
in mind?
761
00:27:41,327 --> 00:27:43,705
Charging him with
obstruction and tampering?
762
00:27:43,788 --> 00:27:44,789
No. With killing
his wife.
763
00:27:44,873 --> 00:27:47,876
Remember what I said
about prosecuting homicides
764
00:27:48,001 --> 00:27:49,336
without bodies.
765
00:27:49,461 --> 00:27:51,004
If all Eli Madison wanted
766
00:27:51,087 --> 00:27:53,173
to do was avoid
being recognized,
767
00:27:53,256 --> 00:27:54,632
he could have
grown a beard
768
00:27:54,716 --> 00:27:55,592
or shaved his head.
769
00:27:55,633 --> 00:27:58,887
But instead he put
on a wig and a dress.
770
00:27:59,012 --> 00:28:00,472
It must mean something.
771
00:28:00,555 --> 00:28:02,307
Pretzel?
772
00:28:02,390 --> 00:28:05,685
What if he is
a transvestite?
773
00:28:05,810 --> 00:28:08,396
Then some of what
he said on the stand
could be true.
774
00:28:08,521 --> 00:28:11,566
Maybe he really couldn't bear
being found out.
775
00:28:11,691 --> 00:28:12,776
And if that's why
he killed Roger Barry...
776
00:28:12,901 --> 00:28:16,321
Maybe he killed his wife
for the same reason.
777
00:28:16,404 --> 00:28:18,448
Say she found out
his secret.
778
00:28:18,573 --> 00:28:19,824
For a man
like Eli Madison,
779
00:28:19,908 --> 00:28:22,911
living in that
cloistered world
of old money.
780
00:28:22,994 --> 00:28:25,747
Better a murderer
than a cross-dresser.
781
00:28:25,872 --> 00:28:26,748
Exactly.
782
00:28:26,790 --> 00:28:28,500
Delve as deep as you can
into Eli Madison.
783
00:28:28,583 --> 00:28:30,627
Let's find out
how good he was
784
00:28:30,752 --> 00:28:31,711
at keeping his secret.
785
00:28:35,006 --> 00:28:36,257
Here he is.
786
00:28:36,341 --> 00:28:37,592
Eli Peter Madison.
787
00:28:37,717 --> 00:28:39,886
He married Caroline
Gail Thorton
788
00:28:39,969 --> 00:28:41,763
December fifth, 1992.
789
00:28:41,846 --> 00:28:45,141
Divorced her July 14, 1996.
790
00:28:45,225 --> 00:28:46,184
Uncontested.
791
00:28:46,267 --> 00:28:47,268
It's hard
to contest anything
792
00:28:47,352 --> 00:28:48,686
when you've been
"misplaced."
793
00:28:48,770 --> 00:28:49,562
Is that it?
794
00:28:49,604 --> 00:28:52,482
Did you know
he was married before?
795
00:28:52,565 --> 00:28:54,609
No.
796
00:28:54,734 --> 00:28:56,653
1982.
797
00:28:56,778 --> 00:28:58,571
That would have made him 18
or so.
798
00:28:58,697 --> 00:29:01,741
He married a Diane Wharsey,
also 18.
799
00:29:01,825 --> 00:29:02,742
Didn't last long.
800
00:29:02,826 --> 00:29:03,993
Six months.
801
00:29:04,077 --> 00:29:05,161
Happen to have an address?
802
00:29:05,245 --> 00:29:06,788
22 years old.
803
00:29:06,913 --> 00:29:09,749
You got to start
somewhere.
804
00:29:11,876 --> 00:29:14,212
I bought it
with the settlement,
805
00:29:14,295 --> 00:29:18,299
and I've been here
ever since.
806
00:29:18,383 --> 00:29:20,385
We were children.
807
00:29:20,468 --> 00:29:24,055
Of course
it didn't last.
808
00:29:24,139 --> 00:29:26,391
Can I ask you
an embarrassing question?
809
00:29:26,474 --> 00:29:28,935
Can I stop you?
810
00:29:29,060 --> 00:29:33,314
How was your sex life?
811
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,567
We thought it was great.
812
00:29:35,650 --> 00:29:38,737
I mean, what do you
even know at that age?
813
00:29:38,820 --> 00:29:45,326
Did Eli have any tendencies
that weren't... mainstream?
814
00:29:45,452 --> 00:29:48,413
Ms. Southerlyn,
maybe you ought to just stop
815
00:29:48,496 --> 00:29:51,499
beating around the bush
and say what you mean.
816
00:29:51,583 --> 00:29:53,251
Are you asking
was he gay?
817
00:29:53,335 --> 00:29:55,003
We could start there.
818
00:29:55,128 --> 00:29:56,713
I don't think
he really knew
819
00:29:56,838 --> 00:29:57,839
one way or the other.
820
00:29:57,922 --> 00:30:00,175
Now let me ask you a question.
821
00:30:00,258 --> 00:30:01,301
Why are you here?
822
00:30:01,384 --> 00:30:02,677
Eli was acquitted.
823
00:30:02,802 --> 00:30:04,346
We're looking
into the disappearance
824
00:30:04,429 --> 00:30:05,972
of his second wife.
825
00:30:06,097 --> 00:30:06,973
Ah. Caroline.
826
00:30:07,057 --> 00:30:08,016
The case is still open.
827
00:30:08,141 --> 00:30:09,309
And I was just wondering
828
00:30:09,434 --> 00:30:10,935
if he ever talked
to you about it?
829
00:30:11,019 --> 00:30:12,979
He called me from Europe.
830
00:30:13,063 --> 00:30:14,356
He was distraught.
831
00:30:14,439 --> 00:30:15,815
He felt persecuted.
832
00:30:15,940 --> 00:30:17,067
He had to come back
833
00:30:17,192 --> 00:30:19,944
for the trial,
and Dwayne had just died.
834
00:30:20,070 --> 00:30:21,029
Dwayne?
835
00:30:21,154 --> 00:30:22,781
Evans.
His very close friend.
836
00:30:22,906 --> 00:30:26,368
Dwayne had a terrible accident
rock climbing
837
00:30:26,493 --> 00:30:28,370
or something out west.
838
00:30:28,495 --> 00:30:30,038
They had just taken
his deposition
839
00:30:30,121 --> 00:30:31,456
and he was supposed to come back
840
00:30:31,539 --> 00:30:33,541
to New York to testify.
841
00:30:33,625 --> 00:30:35,460
Was this Eli's alibi witness?
842
00:30:35,543 --> 00:30:36,920
Mmm. Eli was
beside himself.
843
00:30:37,003 --> 00:30:40,715
He lost the one person
who could really exonerate him.
844
00:30:40,799 --> 00:30:41,800
Did you know Dwayne?
845
00:30:41,883 --> 00:30:42,842
A little.
846
00:30:42,884 --> 00:30:45,720
He made Eli look
like the poster boy for normal.
847
00:30:45,845 --> 00:30:46,763
How so?
848
00:30:46,888 --> 00:30:49,015
Neurotic, hysterical,
849
00:30:49,099 --> 00:30:52,018
you name it.
850
00:30:52,102 --> 00:30:53,728
And you know, looking back,
851
00:30:53,812 --> 00:30:56,439
he and Eli might
have been lovers.
852
00:30:58,900 --> 00:31:00,360
According to Immigration,
853
00:31:00,443 --> 00:31:01,903
Eli Madison flew back
from Europe
854
00:31:01,987 --> 00:31:03,405
two weeks before
he testified
855
00:31:03,488 --> 00:31:04,447
in the civil suit.
856
00:31:04,531 --> 00:31:05,740
He then flew back
to Europe
857
00:31:05,824 --> 00:31:07,659
the day after the case
was dismissed.
858
00:31:07,742 --> 00:31:09,369
He beat the rap
on that one, too.
859
00:31:09,452 --> 00:31:10,745
His friend
Dwayne Evans died
860
00:31:10,829 --> 00:31:13,331
a week after Eli Madison
came back to the States.
861
00:31:13,415 --> 00:31:14,541
That was an accident.
862
00:31:14,666 --> 00:31:17,252
Evans was hiking
in the back country
near Taos.
863
00:31:17,377 --> 00:31:20,422
Some day-trippers
found his body at
the base of the cliff.
864
00:31:20,505 --> 00:31:22,632
You think Madison
was involved somehow?
865
00:31:22,757 --> 00:31:24,384
When he called
Diane Wharsey
866
00:31:24,467 --> 00:31:25,385
to talk about it,
867
00:31:25,510 --> 00:31:27,137
he told her
he was in Europe.
868
00:31:27,220 --> 00:31:28,930
But he couldn't
have been, Jack.
869
00:31:29,013 --> 00:31:30,348
He was already here.
870
00:31:30,432 --> 00:31:32,350
She misremembers
the conversation.
871
00:31:32,475 --> 00:31:34,102
Why would he kill
his alibi witness?
872
00:31:34,185 --> 00:31:36,062
Diane said that Dwayne
was unstable.
873
00:31:36,146 --> 00:31:37,105
Maybe Eli was worried
874
00:31:37,147 --> 00:31:40,066
about how he would
hold up at the civil trial.
875
00:31:40,150 --> 00:31:42,402
If Dwayne flip-flopped
in court,
876
00:31:42,485 --> 00:31:45,113
Eli might lose
the wrongful death suit.
877
00:31:45,196 --> 00:31:47,866
A criminal trial
wouldn't be far behind.
878
00:31:47,949 --> 00:31:50,035
If you could put Eli Madison
in Taos
879
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,120
at the time
of Dwayne Evans's death,
880
00:31:52,203 --> 00:31:53,955
we might be able to persuade
881
00:31:54,039 --> 00:31:55,707
the New Mexico
medical examiner
882
00:31:55,790 --> 00:31:57,751
to have Evans's body exhumed.
883
00:32:00,170 --> 00:32:02,464
11 airlines flew
into Albuquerque
884
00:32:02,589 --> 00:32:04,049
during that time period.
885
00:32:04,174 --> 00:32:07,635
Checking first class
for those weeks.
886
00:32:07,719 --> 00:32:09,596
No Eli Madison
on any of them.
887
00:32:09,721 --> 00:32:11,056
I can check coach, too.
888
00:32:11,139 --> 00:32:12,640
That's going
to take some time.
889
00:32:12,724 --> 00:32:14,601
Yeah, well, you
might as well.
890
00:32:15,185 --> 00:32:17,270
Maybe he drove to Taos
891
00:32:17,354 --> 00:32:19,105
from Phoenix or L.A.
or Las Vegas.
892
00:32:19,189 --> 00:32:20,190
It's a needle
in a haystack.
893
00:32:20,273 --> 00:32:21,650
What about the family jet?
894
00:32:21,775 --> 00:32:23,610
Isn't there
a small airport
in Santa Fe?
895
00:32:23,735 --> 00:32:24,944
I checked that already.
896
00:32:25,070 --> 00:32:27,072
The Madison Gulfstream
was in St. Bart's
that month.
897
00:32:27,197 --> 00:32:28,406
Well, see what
you can come up with.
898
00:32:28,490 --> 00:32:29,532
I'll come back later.
899
00:32:29,657 --> 00:32:31,117
And if you can't find anything
into Albuquerque,
900
00:32:31,242 --> 00:32:32,535
expand your search.
901
00:32:35,246 --> 00:32:36,539
Wait a minute.
902
00:32:38,166 --> 00:32:40,543
Try Jennifer Shelby.
903
00:32:47,133 --> 00:32:50,512
A Jennifer Shelby flew
into Albuquerque, New Mexico,
904
00:32:50,595 --> 00:32:53,056
three days before
Dwayne Evans had
his accident.
905
00:32:53,181 --> 00:32:54,182
On the same day,
906
00:32:54,224 --> 00:32:56,935
Dwayne Evans rented a car
at the Albuquerque airport
907
00:32:57,018 --> 00:32:58,061
and drove to Taos.
908
00:32:58,186 --> 00:33:00,063
He checked into
the Casa Benitez
909
00:33:00,146 --> 00:33:01,523
in the company of a woman
910
00:33:01,606 --> 00:33:04,109
who matches the description
of Jennifer Shelby.
911
00:33:04,192 --> 00:33:05,318
Eli Madison.
912
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:10,156
When the cops went to talk
to her about Dwayne's accident,
913
00:33:10,281 --> 00:33:11,199
she'd split.
914
00:33:11,324 --> 00:33:13,159
Vanished into thin air.
915
00:33:13,284 --> 00:33:14,703
With Dwayne Evans dead,
916
00:33:14,786 --> 00:33:17,580
all that was available
for either the civil suit
917
00:33:17,706 --> 00:33:21,042
or a possible criminal case
was his deposition testimony.
918
00:33:21,167 --> 00:33:23,920
Which was Eli's alibi.
919
00:33:26,214 --> 00:33:29,634
Send pictures of Eli Madison
in and out of drag
920
00:33:29,718 --> 00:33:32,679
to the Taos PD.
921
00:33:32,762 --> 00:33:34,848
Ask them to do a photo array
for the people at the Inn.
922
00:33:34,973 --> 00:33:37,809
And file charges-- Murder Two--
for killing Caroline Madison.
923
00:33:37,892 --> 00:33:39,936
We still don't have the body.
924
00:33:40,019 --> 00:33:41,229
Last I looked,
925
00:33:41,271 --> 00:33:44,691
killing a witness
is evidence of the
underlying crime.
926
00:33:44,816 --> 00:33:46,192
With all the
other evidence,
927
00:33:46,276 --> 00:33:47,527
it finally ought
to be enough
928
00:33:47,610 --> 00:33:48,653
to get an indictment.
929
00:33:48,737 --> 00:33:50,113
I'm going to contact
the authorities
930
00:33:50,196 --> 00:33:52,032
in New Mexico.
Have them exhume Dwayne Evans.
931
00:33:52,115 --> 00:33:55,618
They may want
to file charges of their own.
932
00:33:57,829 --> 00:34:00,081
At our request,
933
00:34:00,165 --> 00:34:01,166
the New Mexico
authorities
934
00:34:01,249 --> 00:34:04,252
exhumed and autopsied the
remains of Dwayne Evans.
935
00:34:04,377 --> 00:34:05,712
I compared DNA from skin
936
00:34:05,795 --> 00:34:07,589
taken from under
Mr. Evans's fingernails
937
00:34:07,672 --> 00:34:09,090
to court ordered DNA
938
00:34:09,174 --> 00:34:10,258
taken from
the defendant.
939
00:34:10,383 --> 00:34:11,801
And what did you find?
940
00:34:11,885 --> 00:34:13,553
The DNA matched
at ten regions.
941
00:34:13,678 --> 00:34:15,972
And from that you're
able to conclude...?
942
00:34:16,056 --> 00:34:19,351
The skin under Dawyne Evans's
fingernails was Eli Madison's.
943
00:34:19,434 --> 00:34:22,729
Dr. Faruzzi, what
method did you use
944
00:34:22,812 --> 00:34:25,648
to compare DNA
from the several samples?
945
00:34:25,732 --> 00:34:26,941
PCR analysis.
946
00:34:27,067 --> 00:34:28,026
You didn't use
947
00:34:28,068 --> 00:34:32,280
Restriction Fragment Length
Polymorphism analysis?
948
00:34:32,405 --> 00:34:34,991
RFLP? I didn't need to.
949
00:34:35,075 --> 00:34:37,911
Eight years ago,
if Dwayne Evans's death
950
00:34:38,036 --> 00:34:41,289
had not been ruled
an accident, what method
951
00:34:41,373 --> 00:34:42,540
would the New Mexico
952
00:34:42,624 --> 00:34:44,626
forensics scientists
have used?
953
00:34:44,751 --> 00:34:47,212
Eight years ago RFLP analysis
was state of the art.
954
00:34:47,337 --> 00:34:48,880
And now?
955
00:34:48,963 --> 00:34:50,298
It's hardly
used at all.
956
00:34:50,423 --> 00:34:51,883
There are much
more efficient
957
00:34:51,966 --> 00:34:53,885
and accurate
methods of testing.
958
00:34:53,968 --> 00:34:55,011
Such as?
959
00:34:55,095 --> 00:34:57,347
PCR analysis.
960
00:34:57,430 --> 00:35:00,934
No further questions,
Your Honor.
961
00:35:04,270 --> 00:35:05,772
We were best friends.
962
00:35:05,855 --> 00:35:08,191
I needed to talk to someone.
963
00:35:08,316 --> 00:35:10,276
But why go
in disguise?
964
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,112
Why visit
Dwayne Evans
965
00:35:12,237 --> 00:35:13,655
as Jennifer Shelby?
966
00:35:13,780 --> 00:35:15,323
To protect
Dwayne's privacy.
967
00:35:15,448 --> 00:35:16,700
The police,
the press,
968
00:35:16,825 --> 00:35:17,826
wouldn't leave me alone.
969
00:35:17,909 --> 00:35:20,328
Everywhere I went,
following me, accusing me.
970
00:35:20,412 --> 00:35:22,580
Taking pictures.
Asking stupid questions.
971
00:35:22,664 --> 00:35:23,832
Can you explain
how your skin
972
00:35:23,915 --> 00:35:25,542
got under Dwayne's fingernails?
973
00:35:25,625 --> 00:35:27,585
Yes.
974
00:35:27,669 --> 00:35:29,629
We were lovers.
975
00:35:29,754 --> 00:35:31,881
Did you go hiking
with Dwayne that day?
976
00:35:31,965 --> 00:35:33,007
No.
977
00:35:33,091 --> 00:35:34,926
All right,
so tell us what happened.
978
00:35:35,010 --> 00:35:37,012
We made love
early that morning,
979
00:35:37,095 --> 00:35:39,347
and then Dwayne
left to go hiking
980
00:35:39,431 --> 00:35:40,849
in the Rio Grande
gorge.
981
00:35:40,932 --> 00:35:43,309
He was supposed
to come back by noon.
982
00:35:43,435 --> 00:35:45,311
He didn't come back.
983
00:35:45,395 --> 00:35:48,273
By 4:00, I was worried sick.
984
00:35:48,356 --> 00:35:50,317
By 6:00 I was panic stricken,
985
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,194
and by 9:00 I knew something
terrible had happened to him.
986
00:35:53,278 --> 00:35:54,320
Why didn't you
call the police?
987
00:35:54,404 --> 00:35:55,363
I panicked.
988
00:35:55,447 --> 00:35:56,781
Because of my wife's
disappearance,
989
00:35:56,865 --> 00:35:57,699
I knew they
would have
990
00:35:57,782 --> 00:35:59,367
thought I had
something to do with it.
991
00:35:59,492 --> 00:36:01,077
Dwayne had taken
the rental car.
992
00:36:01,202 --> 00:36:03,371
I was stranded,
I didn't know what to do.
993
00:36:03,455 --> 00:36:05,790
The next morning
I caught an early bus
994
00:36:05,915 --> 00:36:08,084
to Colorado Springs
and flew home.
995
00:36:08,209 --> 00:36:12,005
So you didn't have anything
to do with Dwayne's accident?
996
00:36:12,130 --> 00:36:13,590
Of course not.
997
00:36:13,715 --> 00:36:16,384
I loved him.
998
00:36:16,468 --> 00:36:17,969
More than anyone.
999
00:36:18,053 --> 00:36:20,972
I'm sorry I wasn't
there that day.
1000
00:36:21,056 --> 00:36:24,184
Maybe I could have helped him.
1001
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,914
You say you could
have helped him.
1002
00:36:46,039 --> 00:36:47,749
You don't do well
under pressure,
1003
00:36:47,832 --> 00:36:48,917
do you,
Mr. Madison?
1004
00:36:49,042 --> 00:36:50,752
I don't know what you mean.
1005
00:36:50,835 --> 00:36:51,836
Your friend
Dwayne
1006
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,505
doesn't come back from a hike,
1007
00:36:53,588 --> 00:36:54,756
you don't call the police,
1008
00:36:54,839 --> 00:36:56,341
park rangers,
EMS...
1009
00:36:56,466 --> 00:36:57,801
I explained why
1010
00:36:57,926 --> 00:36:58,885
I didn't do any of that.
1011
00:36:59,010 --> 00:36:59,886
I was under a cloud.
1012
00:37:00,011 --> 00:37:01,429
Isn't it true
that when your wife
1013
00:37:01,554 --> 00:37:03,098
Caroline disappeared,
1014
00:37:03,181 --> 00:37:05,892
it took you three days
to report her missing?
1015
00:37:05,975 --> 00:37:07,352
I was away, with Dwayne.
1016
00:37:07,477 --> 00:37:08,937
I didn't even know
she was gone.
1017
00:37:09,020 --> 00:37:12,857
Of course, Dwayne's not here
1018
00:37:12,941 --> 00:37:15,235
to corroborate your story.
1019
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:16,236
Objection.
1020
00:37:16,361 --> 00:37:17,237
Sustained.
1021
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:18,279
Withdrawn.
1022
00:37:18,405 --> 00:37:20,240
You didn't call
the police
1023
00:37:20,323 --> 00:37:21,282
for your friend Dwayne.
1024
00:37:21,408 --> 00:37:23,493
It took you three days
to call the police
1025
00:37:23,576 --> 00:37:25,954
about your wife's
disappearance.
1026
00:37:26,079 --> 00:37:28,790
Mr. Madison, did you
call the police
1027
00:37:28,873 --> 00:37:30,875
when your friend
Roger Barry died?
1028
00:37:31,001 --> 00:37:32,252
Approach,
Your Honor.
1029
00:37:37,132 --> 00:37:38,216
Your Honor, Mr. McCoy
is attempting
1030
00:37:38,341 --> 00:37:40,844
to introduce into evidence
facts relating to charges
1031
00:37:40,927 --> 00:37:42,429
that my client was
recently acquitted of.
1032
00:37:42,554 --> 00:37:44,431
I read the papers, Mr. Archer.
1033
00:37:44,556 --> 00:37:46,141
Your Honor,
I'm trying
1034
00:37:46,224 --> 00:37:47,851
to establish a pattern
of behavior
1035
00:37:47,934 --> 00:37:48,935
on Mr. Madison's part.
1036
00:37:49,060 --> 00:37:50,854
Some of his behavior
may be considered
1037
00:37:50,937 --> 00:37:52,397
bizarre or
inappropriate,
1038
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:53,398
but not
admissible.
1039
00:37:53,481 --> 00:37:54,482
Inappropriate?
1040
00:37:54,566 --> 00:37:56,818
He admitted cutting
Mr. Barry's body
1041
00:37:56,943 --> 00:37:58,486
into pieces when he died.
1042
00:37:58,570 --> 00:38:00,488
Some of the facts,
out of context,
1043
00:38:00,613 --> 00:38:02,741
may be so gruesome,
Your Honor,
1044
00:38:02,824 --> 00:38:03,450
as to be
prejudicial.
1045
00:38:03,575 --> 00:38:04,576
I agree, Mr. Archer.
1046
00:38:04,617 --> 00:38:06,870
You may question the defendant
about his failure
1047
00:38:06,995 --> 00:38:08,455
to notify the authorities,
but not about
1048
00:38:08,580 --> 00:38:11,207
what he did
subsequently.
1049
00:38:11,291 --> 00:38:13,293
So, Mr. Madison,
1050
00:38:13,376 --> 00:38:16,504
did you call the police
when your friend
1051
00:38:16,588 --> 00:38:18,048
Roger Barry
died?
1052
00:38:18,131 --> 00:38:19,007
No.
1053
00:38:19,090 --> 00:38:20,467
What were
the circumstances
1054
00:38:20,550 --> 00:38:21,801
of his death?
1055
00:38:21,885 --> 00:38:23,845
He had a heart attack.
1056
00:38:23,970 --> 00:38:25,722
A heart attack?
Are you a doctor?
1057
00:38:25,847 --> 00:38:27,766
No.
1058
00:38:27,849 --> 00:38:29,351
Did you call
an ambulance?
1059
00:38:29,476 --> 00:38:30,393
No.
Why not?
1060
00:38:30,518 --> 00:38:31,519
I thought
I might be
1061
00:38:31,644 --> 00:38:32,937
blamed for what
happened to him.
1062
00:38:33,021 --> 00:38:34,814
Just as you thought
you might be blamed
1063
00:38:34,939 --> 00:38:37,442
for your friend
Dwayne Evans's accident?
1064
00:38:37,525 --> 00:38:38,485
Yes.
1065
00:38:38,610 --> 00:38:39,527
Just as you thought
you might
1066
00:38:39,652 --> 00:38:41,905
be blamed for
the disappearance
1067
00:38:42,030 --> 00:38:43,073
of your wife
Caroline?
1068
00:38:43,156 --> 00:38:43,865
Yes.
1069
00:38:43,948 --> 00:38:46,534
Blamed for a disappearance,
1070
00:38:46,659 --> 00:38:49,621
an accident
and a heart attack?
1071
00:38:49,746 --> 00:38:51,956
The police, they were
out to get me!
1072
00:38:52,082 --> 00:38:54,501
With three dead bodies,
can you blame them?
1073
00:38:54,584 --> 00:38:55,502
Objection.
1074
00:38:55,585 --> 00:38:57,837
Withdrawn.
1075
00:38:57,921 --> 00:38:59,381
No further
questions, Your Honor.
1076
00:38:59,464 --> 00:39:02,592
In that case, Your Honor,
the defense rests.
1077
00:39:02,675 --> 00:39:04,052
The People
wish to call
1078
00:39:04,177 --> 00:39:06,179
a rebuttal witness,
Your Honor.
1079
00:39:09,391 --> 00:39:10,975
Mr. Evans was staying
1080
00:39:11,059 --> 00:39:14,979
at our bed and breakfast when he
had his hiking accident.
1081
00:39:15,105 --> 00:39:17,816
I remember him very well.
1082
00:39:17,899 --> 00:39:18,983
That was eight years ago.
1083
00:39:19,109 --> 00:39:20,276
We never had
a guest die
1084
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,362
before or since.
1085
00:39:22,487 --> 00:39:24,155
You don't forget
1086
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,366
something like that,
believe me.
1087
00:39:26,449 --> 00:39:27,492
Was he alone?
1088
00:39:27,575 --> 00:39:28,576
He was with a woman.
1089
00:39:28,702 --> 00:39:29,619
They checked in together.
1090
00:39:29,661 --> 00:39:32,497
Do you see that individual
in the courtroom?
1091
00:39:32,580 --> 00:39:36,543
Yes... sort of.
1092
00:39:36,668 --> 00:39:38,211
The defendant.
1093
00:39:40,964 --> 00:39:43,007
You said Mr. Evans
was with a woman.
1094
00:39:43,091 --> 00:39:44,259
The police
showed me
1095
00:39:44,342 --> 00:39:46,219
some pictures, and
I recognized her.
1096
00:39:46,344 --> 00:39:48,805
Then they showed me some
pictures without her wig,
1097
00:39:48,888 --> 00:39:50,557
and it was him.
1098
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,100
The defendant.
1099
00:39:52,225 --> 00:39:52,976
Yes.
1100
00:39:53,059 --> 00:39:54,144
Did you see
Mr. Evans
1101
00:39:54,227 --> 00:39:55,895
on the day
he had his accident?
1102
00:39:55,979 --> 00:39:57,397
I was up early
fixing breakfast
1103
00:39:57,522 --> 00:39:59,983
for the guests,
I heard a car start up.
1104
00:40:00,066 --> 00:40:02,485
I looked out the window
and saw Mr. Evans drive off.
1105
00:40:02,569 --> 00:40:03,611
Was he alone?
1106
00:40:03,737 --> 00:40:04,612
There was
someone
1107
00:40:04,654 --> 00:40:07,532
in the car with him,
on the passenger side.
1108
00:40:07,615 --> 00:40:08,575
Could you see
who it was?
1109
00:40:08,700 --> 00:40:10,618
It was too dark.
1110
00:40:10,702 --> 00:40:12,704
Did you see
the defendant--
1111
00:40:12,787 --> 00:40:14,581
Miss Shelby,
as you knew her--
1112
00:40:14,664 --> 00:40:16,583
at any time that day?
1113
00:40:16,666 --> 00:40:17,584
A little
after noon,
1114
00:40:17,667 --> 00:40:19,586
I saw her get out of a car,
1115
00:40:19,711 --> 00:40:22,297
out at the road and walk down
1116
00:40:22,422 --> 00:40:24,549
the driveway of the hotel
to her room.
1117
00:40:24,674 --> 00:40:25,550
How did she look?
1118
00:40:25,633 --> 00:40:26,634
She looked hot,
1119
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:31,681
tired... and very dusty.
1120
00:40:31,765 --> 00:40:32,974
Did you see
her again?
1121
00:40:33,058 --> 00:40:34,059
No, the next
morning,
1122
00:40:34,142 --> 00:40:35,560
I went to change
the sheets
1123
00:40:35,685 --> 00:40:37,270
in their room
and she was gone.
1124
00:40:37,395 --> 00:40:40,565
His stuff was still
in the room, but not hers.
1125
00:40:40,648 --> 00:40:42,567
And then the police came.
1126
00:40:42,692 --> 00:40:45,653
They discovered
Mr. Evans's body.
1127
00:40:56,664 --> 00:40:57,624
Have you reached
a verdict
1128
00:40:57,749 --> 00:40:59,084
in the death of
Caroline Madison?
1129
00:40:59,209 --> 00:41:00,293
We have.
1130
00:41:00,418 --> 00:41:02,629
On the sole count
of the indictment,
1131
00:41:02,712 --> 00:41:04,130
Murder in
the Second Degree,
1132
00:41:04,214 --> 00:41:06,508
how do you find the
defendant, Eli Madison?
1133
00:41:06,591 --> 00:41:08,635
We find the
defendant guilty.
1134
00:41:21,773 --> 00:41:24,693
A homicide conviction
without a body.
1135
00:41:24,776 --> 00:41:27,404
It's the prosecutor's
quadruple jump.
1136
00:41:29,072 --> 00:41:30,532
I'm not gloating.
1137
00:41:30,615 --> 00:41:32,701
Go ahead,
you're entitled.
1138
00:41:32,784 --> 00:41:35,036
Guess justice isn't
always for sale.
1139
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,330
Not today, anyway.
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