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THE PEOPLE ARE REPRESENTED
BY TWO SEPARATE
THE PEOPLE ARE REPRESENTED
BY TWO SEPARATE
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YET EQUALLY IMPORTANT GROUPS--
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THE POLICE,
WHO INVESTIGATE CRIME
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AND THE DISTRICT ATTORNEYS,
WHO PROSECUTE THE OFFENDERS.
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THESE ARE THEIR STORIES.
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MY KID WANTS 60 BUCKS
FOR ONE CARD.
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HEY, WE HAD BASEBALL,
THEY GOT POKEMON.
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THURMAN MUNSON
NEVER COST ME $60.
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OH, MAN.
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WHAT'S THE MATTER?
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THING WEIGHS A TON.
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WELL, CHECK IT OUT.
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IT COULD BE A COMPUTER
OR SOMETHING.
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WHATEVER IT IS,
I WANT HALF.
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I DON'T THINK SO.
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MALE, 16.
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WRAPPED UP IN A BLANKET,
THEN DOUBLE-BAGGED.
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SLASHED ONCE ON THE NECK.
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DAMN.
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SO WHO IS HE?
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SCHOOL I.D. FROM JAMESON HIGH.
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NAME'S CHRIS SKINNER.
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MOTHER CALLED
THE PRECINCT LAST NIGHT
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REPORTED HIM MISSING.
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HERE'S HIS ADDRESS.
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COLUMBUS.
TEN BLOCKS NORTH.
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ANYBODY SEE THE
BAG GET DUMPED?
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WE'RE ON IT.
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IT COULD HAVE
BEEN DRAGGED
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FROM ANY ONE
OF THESE BUILDINGS.
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OR SOMEBODY DROVE UP
WITH A DELIVERY...
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IS THAT CHRIS?
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WHO CALLED HER?
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NOT US.
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WHAT, SHE JUST
SHOWED UP?
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WHAT A COINCIDENCE.
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and NBC]
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CHRIS NEVER CAME HOME
FOR DINNER.
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I CALLED HIS FRIENDS
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LOOKED AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD
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THEN I CALLED THE POLICE.
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THEY DIDN'T FIND HIM,
AND NOW HE'S DEAD.
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HOW DID YOU HAPPEN TO
COME TO THE MURDER SCENE
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MS. SKINNER?
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A FRIEND HEARD IT
ON THE NEWS.
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A DEAD BOY ON 56th STREET.
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ARE YOU MARRIED, MS. SKINNER?
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BOYFRIEND?
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NO.
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WHY?
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THESE ARE JUST STANDARD
QUESTIONS, MS. SKINNER.
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I WOULD NEVER
LET ANYONE HURT CHRIS.
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I NEED A CIGARETTE.
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AN OFFICER WILL WALK YOU OUT.
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WHEN DID PATROL
GET THERE LAST NIGHT?
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9:20, ABOUT TEN MINUTES
AFTER SHE CALLED 911.
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THEY CANVASSED
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THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
SEARCHED HIS BUILDING.
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AND THE APARTMENT?
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YEAH, AND THE CAR.
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NOTHING SUSPICIOUS--
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JUST A MISSING KID.
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FAX FROM THE KID'S SCHOOL.
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TWO YEARS AGO,
HE CAME IN ALL BEAT UP.
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THEY CALLED CHILDREN'S SERVICES.
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CHRIS AND HIS MOM SAID
HE FELL DOWN SOME STAIRS.
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MAYBE THIS TIME HE
FELL DOWN ON A KNIFE.
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I MAKE TIME OF DEATH
ABOUT 5:00 P.M.
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WHAT'S THIS ON HIS ARM?
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IT'S FROM YESTERDAY.
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I'M GUESSING
A GRAB MARK.
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OR FROM GETTING BANGED
AROUND IN THE BAG?
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PEOPLE DON'T BRUISE SO
EASY WHEN THEY'RE DEAD.
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SO, YOU CAN'T TELL
IF HE WAS DRAGGED
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CARRIED OR BEAMED DOWN.
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ANY SIGNS OF ABUSE?
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EITHER THAT, OR HE PLAYED SERIOUS CONTACT
SPORTS.
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FOUND SOME EDEMA ON HIS RIGHT SHOULDER AND
SIDE.
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KID GOT POPPED A
COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
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NOT LIKE THIS TIME.
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INTERESTING WOUND.
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AT LEAST
A SIX-INCH BLADE
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BASED ON THE LENGTH
OF THE CUT
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AND I'M GUESSING A BLADE
WITH A WIDE CURVE.
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WHAT, LIKE A SCYTHE?
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WHATEVER IT WAS
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IT HACKED INTO HIS ARTERY,
AND HE BLED OUT.
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ALL OVER THAT BLANKET.
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MUST HAVE BEEN WASHED RECENTLY.
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NO HAIRS, NO FINGERNAILS
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NO FIBERS THAT DIDN'T
COME FROM THE BLANKET
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AND THE GARBAGE BAGS
ARE NO GOOD FOR PRINTS.
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GOOD ENOUGH
FOR DUMPING A BODY.
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EXTRA LARGE.
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THREE-MILLIMETER,
HEAVY-DUTY
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HIGH-DENSITY
POLYETHYLENE.
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NOT SOMETHING YOU'D
FIND IN YOUR KITCHEN.
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THERE WERE CIGARETTE ASH
AND TOBACCO PARTICLES
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ON THE OUTSIDE
OF THE OUTER BAG
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STUCK TO SOME
DRIED BLOOD.
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WHAT BRAND?
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AMERICAN MENTHOL.
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CAN'T GIVE YOU MORE
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UNTIL WE GET IT
BACK FROM THE LAB.
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STUFF COULD HAVE BEEN
PICKED UP ON THE SIDEWALK.
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OR A SMOKE AFTER,
TO CALM YOUR NERVES.
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SORRY TO HEAR
THE BOY GOT KILLED
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BUT I HAVE TO BE AT
A DIVORCE HEARING IN AN HOUR.
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MAKE THEM WAIT.
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YOU HEAR ANY COMMOTION
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IN THE SKINNERS' APARTMENT
YESTERDAY?
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THICK WALLS, OKAY?
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ONLY GOOD THING
ABOUT THIS BUILDING.
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DOES SHE HAVE ANY BOYFRIENDS
STAYING OVER?
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I'M NOT INTERESTED
IN THE WOMAN'S SEX LIFE.
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DID YOU EVER HEAR HER
GET MAD AT HER SON?
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YOU THINK I STAND
WITH MY EAR TO THEIR DOOR?
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WE LOVE NOSY PEOPLE.
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ANY IDEA WHAT KIND
OF CIGARETTE SHE SMOKES?
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I'VE SEEN HER AT THE DELI
AROUND THE CORNER.
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LONG, BROWN HAIR
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SHE SMOKES, MIGHT HAVE
COME IN WITH HER SON.
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I KNOW THEM.
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THEY WALK BY HERE
TO CHURCH EVERY SUNDAY.
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SHE EVER BUY
CIGARETTES HERE?
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YEAH... DEAUVILLE LIGHTS.
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NOT EXACTLY
AMERICAN MENTHOL.
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I SAW HIM YESTERDAY.
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WHEN?
ABOUT 4:15.
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HE WAS OUT HERE
WITH ANOTHER BOY
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SELLING CANDY BARS
FOR SCHOOL.
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I SELL CANDY, TOO,
SO I TOLD HIM TO GO AWAY.
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YOU KNOW THE OTHER BOY?
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NO.
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WHAT DID HE LOOK LIKE?
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SPANISH KID, TEENAGER...
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I'M SORRY I YELLED AT THEM.
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THANKS.
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MAYBE THE KID SOLD
SOME BAD CANDY.
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I JUST HEARD... MY GOD.
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CHRIS WAS SELLING
CHOCOLATE BARS FOR THE SCHOOL.
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THE OFFICE POINTED US
IN YOUR DIRECTION.
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WHY?
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WE THINK HE GOT KILLED WHILE HE WAS
HAWKING CANDY.
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OH, I HOPE IT WASN'T THAT.
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OUR WEIGHTLIFTING CLUB
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JUST STARTED A FUND-RAISING
DRIVE YESTERDAY.
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THE BOYS WERE OUT SELLING
NEPTUNE BARS
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TO RAISE MONEY
FOR NEW EQUIPMENT.
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SOMEBODY ELSE FROM THE CLUB WAS WITH HIM
YESTERDAY.
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IT COULD HAVE BEEN
TERRY SANCHEZ.
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WHEN CHRIS JOINED THE CLUB
A MONTH AGO
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TERRY TOOK HIM
UNDER HIS WING
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HELPED PUSH HIM
THROUGH HIS REPS.
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TERRY SHOW UP TODAY?
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I THINK I SAW HIM.
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WE ONLY SOLD, LIKE, ONE CANDY
BAR IN ABOUT HALF AN HOUR.
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THEN THE KOREAN GUY
RAN US OFF.
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WHERE'D YOU
AND CHRIS GO?
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WE SPLIT UP.
FIGURED, WHY STAND ON THE STREET
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WHEN I CAN SELL THE WHOLE BOX
TO MY GRANDMOTHER?
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THAT'S WHERE
YOU WERE AT 5:00?
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YEAH. WHAT ABOUT CHRIS?
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HE WAS GOING TO SELL
DOOR-TO-DOOR UP ON 56th STREET.
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WHY 56th?
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SAID IT WAS A BIG BUILDING
WITH NO DOORMAN.
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IT'D BE EASIER TO GET IN.
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YOU AND CHRIS
WERE BUDDIES, HUH?
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YEAH, I GUESS
YOU COULD SAY THAT.
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I SHOULD HAVE WENT WITH HIM.
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MAYBE NOT.
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IS THE DOORMAN ON A BREAK?
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YEAH, SINCE '96.
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CO-OP BOARD DECIDED
THEY'RE TOO EXPENSIVE.
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I'M THE SUPER.
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I'M DETECTIVE BRISCOE.
THIS IS DETECT...
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WHOA-HO, TWO O'CLOCK.
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HEY, FOLLOW THE SHINING BADGE.
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YOU SEE THIS KID
YESTERDAY AFTERNOON?
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MAY HAVE BEEN
GOING DOOR-TO-DOOR
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WITH A BOX OF CANDY?
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AH, I WASN'T HERE
YESTERDAY AFTERNOON
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BUT I KNOW THAT BOY ALL RIGHT.
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A COUPLE WEEKS AGO,
RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET
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HE WAS MESSING WITH ONE OF
THE KIDS FROM THE BUILDING.
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RAN AFTER HIM, HAD HIM
PUSHED UP AGAINST THE WALL.
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WHO'S THE KID
FROM THE BUILDING?
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SKINNY KID, ALWAYS WEARS BLACK.
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RYAN VELARDI, 12-C.
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I GOT HOME RIGHT AFTER SCHOOL
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BUT NO ONE CAME AROUND
SELLING CANDY.
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WHERE WERE YOUR PARENTS?
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AT WORK...
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LIKE THEY ARE NOW.
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WHAT ABOUT YOU?
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IS THIS ABOUT
THE DEAD KID?
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WHAT MAKES YOU
THINK THAT?
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HE WAS FOUND RIGHT
DOWN THE STREET.
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YEAH, YOU GUYS
KNOW HIM?
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NAH.
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WHAT SCHOOL
YOU GO TO?
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JAMESON HIGH.
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SAME SCHOOL
AS CHRIS SKINNER.
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I KNEW WHO HE WAS.
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WE JUST NEVER
HUNG OUT TOGETHER.
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HOW ABOUT A COUPLE
OF WEEKS AGO
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WHEN HE SHOVED YOU
UP AGAINST THE WALL?
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WHERE'D YOU HEAR THAT?
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LOOK, MAYBE YOU
SHOULD COME BACK
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WHEN MY PARENTS GET HOME.
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WHAT'S HE GOT
TO HIDE?
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THEY'LL BE HOME FROM
WORK AROUND 10:00.
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WHY DON'T WE CALL THEM?
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I CAN'T REACH
THEM NOW.
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WE'LL BE BACK LATER.
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CHARMING PAIR.
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PARENTS WORK TILL 10:00?
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MAYBE THEY'RE COPS.
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HEY, LENNIE...
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WHAT THE HELL.
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THEY WON'T HAVE BAGS
THAT BIG UP HERE.
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COULDN'T FIT A LARGE PIZZA BOX
INTO ONE OF THESE.
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YEAH?
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HOW ABOUT THIS?
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NEPTUNE BARS--
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NOT FOR RETAIL.
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I WANT MY BROTHER HERE.
RYAN, RELAX.
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HE'S RIGHT ACROSS THE HALL.
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THEN WHY CAN'T
HE COME IN?
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DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.
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IT'S JUST ME AND YOU.
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I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING.
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MM, YOU LIED ABOUT
CHRIS SKINNER.
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I'M NOT LYING.
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COME ON, MAN.
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THE TWO OF YOU HAD A BEEF.
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HE CHASED YOU.
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I BARELY KNOW THE KID.
240
00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:41,900
YOU SAW HIM AFTER
SCHOOL ON THURSDAY.
241
00:08:41,941 --> 00:08:43,160
I DIDN'T.
242
00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:44,494
SO, IT WAS JUST
A COINCIDENCE
243
00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,780
THAT HE WAS SELLING
CANDY ON YOUR FLOOR
244
00:08:47,460 --> 00:08:48,520
THE SAME TIME
HE GOT KILLED.
245
00:08:49,020 --> 00:08:51,420
YEAH, I GUESS.
DON'T PLAY ME!
246
00:08:51,420 --> 00:08:53,260
YOU REALLY THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET UP
AND WALK OUT OF HERE?
247
00:08:53,260 --> 00:08:55,380
YOU AND YOUR BROTHER
BOTH ARE DOWN WITH THIS.
248
00:08:55,540 --> 00:08:57,820
YOU GOT HIM TO HELP YOU DRAG THE BAG
DOWNSTAIRS, DIDN'T YOU?
249
00:08:57,820 --> 00:09:00,420
NO. COME ON, MAN, WE'RE GETTING
FINGERPRINTS OFF YOUR DOOR.
250
00:09:00,540 --> 00:09:03,440
YOU'RE LYING TO ME, YOU'RE GOING TO
RIKERS. I'M ONLY 16.
251
00:09:03,820 --> 00:09:06,540
MM-HMM, AND THEY GOT A PLACE FOR
LITTLE BOYS LIKE YOU OUT THERE.
252
00:09:06,540 --> 00:09:07,580
YOU THINK YOU'RE SCARED NOW
253
00:09:08,060 --> 00:09:10,740
WAIT TILL THEY GET AHOLD
OF YOUR LITTLE ASS.
254
00:09:10,740 --> 00:09:12,300
I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING
TILL I TALK TO MY BROTHER.
255
00:09:13,460 --> 00:09:14,700
I WASN'T EVEN HOME ON THURSDAY.
256
00:09:14,742 --> 00:09:16,452
WHAT TIME DID YOU GET IN? LIKE, 6:30.
257
00:09:16,980 --> 00:09:17,840
YOUR BROTHER
MENTION ANYTHING
258
00:09:17,980 --> 00:09:19,356
ABOUT CHRIS SKINNER
COMING AROUND?
259
00:09:19,700 --> 00:09:21,360
HE TOLD YOU--
HE HARDLY KNOWS HIM.
260
00:09:21,460 --> 00:09:23,379
HE WAS HAVING PROBLEMS
WITH THIS KID, WASN'T HE?
261
00:09:23,660 --> 00:09:25,420
WHAT KIND OF PROBLEMS?
COME ON, RICKY.
262
00:09:26,060 --> 00:09:27,820
WE GOT A WITNESS
WHO SAW CHRIS
263
00:09:28,020 --> 00:09:29,200
GOING AFTER YOUR BROTHER.
264
00:09:29,940 --> 00:09:30,900
I DON'T REALLY
GET ALL INVOLVED
265
00:09:31,220 --> 00:09:32,220
IN MY BROTHER'S SOCIAL LIFE.
266
00:09:32,220 --> 00:09:33,740
MAYBE THERE WAS SOMETHING
GOING ON WITH THEM.
267
00:09:33,740 --> 00:09:35,200
LIKE WHAT?
YOU GOT TO ASK HIM.
268
00:09:36,700 --> 00:09:38,900
WHAT KIND OF KNIVES
DO YOU AND RYAN HAVE?
269
00:09:38,900 --> 00:09:40,280
WE DON'T HAVE ANY KNIVES.
270
00:09:42,140 --> 00:09:44,017
MR. VELARDI'S LAWYER.
271
00:09:44,058 --> 00:09:45,080
UH, INTERVIEW'S OVER...
272
00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,180
UNLESS YOU HAVE SOME EVIDENCE
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
273
00:09:47,222 --> 00:09:50,142
LET'S GO.
274
00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,740
WE SEARCHED THEIR APARTMENT--
NO BLOOD
275
00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,180
NO BAGS AND NO PRINTS.
276
00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,040
WE KNOW THE VICTIM
WAS UP THERE.
277
00:09:58,160 --> 00:09:59,760
HIS PRINTS WERE
ON THE CANDY BOX.
278
00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:00,920
COULD BE COINCIDENCE.
279
00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,480
RYAN HAD MOTIVE--
THE DEAD KID
280
00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:04,560
WAS HASSLING HIM.
281
00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,580
ONE WITNESS; ONE INCIDENT.
282
00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,047
ARE YOU SAYING MY SON
WAS BULLYING THIS BOY?
283
00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:13,520
HIGH SCHOOL CAN BE
A ROUGH PLACE.
284
00:10:13,680 --> 00:10:14,760
SOMETIMES YOU'VE GOT
TO ACT TOUGH
285
00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:15,900
TO KEEP THE WOLVES AT BAY.
286
00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:18,820
CHRIS WOULDN'T HURT ANYONE.
287
00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:20,120
I'M SURE OF THAT.
288
00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:22,920
OUR M.E. SAID HE
WAS ALL BRUISED UP.
289
00:10:22,962 --> 00:10:24,755
HE WAS?
290
00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,922
DID HE MENTION
BEING IN A FIGHT?
291
00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,060
EVER GET A CALL
FROM THE SCHOOL
292
00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,480
DETENTION,
ANYTHING LIKE THAT?
293
00:10:32,564 --> 00:10:33,732
NO.
294
00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:35,260
BUT CHRIS WASN'T DOING
ALL THAT WELL
295
00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:36,200
WHEN SCHOOL STARTED.
296
00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:38,040
I JUST THOUGHT
297
00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:39,100
HE DIDN'T LIKE
HIS TEACHERS.
298
00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,300
WHEN YOU SAY
HE WASN'T DOING WELL...
299
00:10:44,390 --> 00:10:45,570
HE DIDN'T REALLY TALK TO ME...
300
00:10:47,390 --> 00:10:50,030
BUT THE LAST FEW WEEKS,
HE SEEMED A LOT BETTER.
301
00:10:50,710 --> 00:10:52,310
AROUND THE TIME HE JOINED
THE WEIGHTLIFTING CLUB.
302
00:10:53,310 --> 00:10:55,646
CHRIS WAS LIFTING WEIGHTS?
303
00:10:56,590 --> 00:10:58,550
HE'D NEVER DONE THAT BEFORE?
304
00:10:58,630 --> 00:10:59,470
NO.
305
00:10:59,470 --> 00:11:02,473
ANYTHING ELSE
UNUSUAL GOING ON?
306
00:11:04,830 --> 00:11:06,650
I FOUND A PAMPHLET
ON HIS DESK...
307
00:11:07,750 --> 00:11:09,190
ABOUT CONFLICT RESOLUTION.
308
00:11:10,510 --> 00:11:12,030
I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST SOMETHING
309
00:11:12,190 --> 00:11:13,690
THAT THEY GAVE EVERYBODY
AT HIS SCHOOL.
310
00:11:15,950 --> 00:11:17,410
I MEANT TO ASK HIM ABOUT IT.
311
00:11:18,230 --> 00:11:19,730
I WAS JUST SO BUSY LATELY.
312
00:11:20,814 --> 00:11:23,400
ARE YOU GOING TO BE OKAY, MA'AM?
313
00:11:26,990 --> 00:11:27,830
I DON'T KNOW.
314
00:11:31,552 --> 00:11:32,512
SO, IF A STUDENT HAS A PROBLEM, HE
SITS DOWN
315
00:11:32,512 --> 00:11:35,557
SO, IF A STUDENT HAS A PROBLEM, HE
SITS DOWN
316
00:11:36,630 --> 00:11:37,690
WITH A GROUP
OF PEER COUNSELORS.
317
00:11:37,950 --> 00:11:39,110
THEY TRY
AND TALK IT OUT.
318
00:11:39,630 --> 00:11:42,466
AND IF THAT DOESN'T WORK,
THEY GRAB THEIR GUNS?
319
00:11:42,650 --> 00:11:44,010
I HATE TO DISAPPOINT YOU,
DETECTIVE
320
00:11:44,290 --> 00:11:45,630
BUT JAMESON'S
A MAGNET SCHOOL.
321
00:11:45,770 --> 00:11:47,550
WE DON'T REALLY HAVE
THE VIOLENCE PREVALENT
322
00:11:47,770 --> 00:11:48,870
IN BIGGER CITY SCHOOLS.
323
00:11:49,170 --> 00:11:51,652
IF A KID REQUESTS INTERVENTION,
WOULD YOU KNOW ABOUT IT?
324
00:11:51,652 --> 00:11:52,492
I'M SUPPOSED TO.
325
00:11:52,492 --> 00:11:53,452
CHRIS SKINNER?
326
00:11:53,493 --> 00:11:54,536
UH, NO.
327
00:11:55,210 --> 00:11:57,310
CHRIS WAS IN MY MATH CLASS,
BUT HE NEVER CAME HERE.
328
00:11:57,690 --> 00:11:58,630
HE HAD
ONE OF YOUR HANDOUTS.
329
00:11:58,930 --> 00:12:01,140
ANY SENSE
OF WHAT WAS BOTHERING HIM?
330
00:12:01,650 --> 00:12:02,590
THERE'S A LOT
OF TENSION
331
00:12:02,890 --> 00:12:05,210
BETWEEN THE VARIOUS
CLIQUES, YOU KNOW?
332
00:12:05,210 --> 00:12:06,430
THE JOCKS
DIS THE FREAKS.
333
00:12:06,650 --> 00:12:08,230
THE HIP-HOP KIDS
DIS THE NERDS.
334
00:12:08,271 --> 00:12:09,272
ANY FIGHTS?
335
00:12:10,730 --> 00:12:12,490
UM... NOT THAT
I'M AWARE OF
336
00:12:13,010 --> 00:12:15,290
BUT THE PSYCHOLOGICAL TORTURE CAN GET
PRETTY NASTY.
337
00:12:15,290 --> 00:12:17,250
IT CAN DRIVE A WEAK
KID TO SELF-DESTRUCT.
338
00:12:17,570 --> 00:12:18,990
OR TO DESTRUCT
SOME OTHER KID.
339
00:12:19,450 --> 00:12:21,530
WAS CHRIS
IN ONE OF THE CLIQUES?
340
00:12:21,530 --> 00:12:22,370
I'M NOT SURE.
341
00:12:22,370 --> 00:12:24,330
WHAT ABOUT A KID
NAMED RYAN VELARDI?
342
00:12:25,530 --> 00:12:26,710
I DON'T RECOGNIZE
THAT NAME.
343
00:12:27,130 --> 00:12:28,340
DARK, GREASY HAIR,
BLACK CLOTHES...
344
00:12:29,090 --> 00:12:31,170
MASCARA, BLACK NAIL POLISH?
345
00:12:31,170 --> 00:12:32,010
HE'D BE A GOTH.
346
00:12:32,330 --> 00:12:33,270
JUST BLACK CLOTHES.
347
00:12:33,890 --> 00:12:36,518
OH, THEN HE'D BE
WITH THE FREAKS.
348
00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:43,760
I JUST LOST
MY APPETITE.
349
00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,000
WE JUST HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.
350
00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:47,440
THIS HAS GOT TO BE
ABOUT CHRIS SKINNER.
351
00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,472
IT'S ABOUT RYAN VELARDI.
352
00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,440
HE HANGS OUT WITH
YOU GUYS, RIGHT?
353
00:12:51,482 --> 00:12:52,440
SOMETIMES.
354
00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,040
HE'S GOT A PLAYSTATION
AND SOME ILL VIDEO GAMES.
355
00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:56,667
HE EVER HAVE ANY
PROBLEMS WITH SKINNER?
356
00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:58,211
ASIDE FROM CHRIS
BEING A GEEK?
357
00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,020
SOUNDS LIKE YOU AND
SKINNER DIDN'T GET ALONG.
358
00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:01,960
WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING
TO DO WITH HIM.
359
00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,586
HE DIDN'T HAVE ANY
CLASSES WITH YOU?
360
00:13:03,628 --> 00:13:04,588
ASK JON.
361
00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:05,700
HE'S IN SPECIAL ED.
362
00:13:06,744 --> 00:13:07,704
SHUT UP.
363
00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:08,880
WE DIDN'T HATE
HIM OR ANYTHING.
364
00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:09,900
HE WAS JUST SHALLOW--
365
00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:11,690
PRACTICALLY
A SKATER-OID.
366
00:13:11,731 --> 00:13:12,640
A WHAT?
367
00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,440
A SKATER-- YOU KNOW,
BAGGY PANTS, NO BRAINS.
368
00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:17,560
THAT WOULD MAKE HIM
STAND OUT AROUND HERE.
369
00:13:17,602 --> 00:13:19,062
THANKS.
370
00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:21,680
I BUMMED A CIGARETTE OFF CHRIS
371
00:13:21,680 --> 00:13:23,460
A FEW TIMES, BUT HE DIDN'T
REALLY HANG OUT WITH US.
372
00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,888
DID HE EVER SAY ANYTHING
ABOUT RYAN VELARDI?
373
00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:27,243
HE WAS KIND OF QUIET.
374
00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,360
MAYBE CHRIS HAD A
GRUDGE AGAINST HIM.
375
00:13:29,402 --> 00:13:31,404
IS THAT
WHAT THE FREAKS TOLD YOU?
376
00:13:31,446 --> 00:13:32,360
WE THINK CHRIS WAS
377
00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:33,740
PICKING ON THIS
VELARDI KID.
378
00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,220
DOESN'T SOUND LIKE HIM.
379
00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,240
CHRIS WAS
IN MY MODERN LIT CLASS.
380
00:13:38,140 --> 00:13:40,350
HE WAS, LIKE,
YOU KNOW, SENSITIVE.
381
00:13:40,392 --> 00:13:41,820
"SENSITIVE"?
382
00:13:41,820 --> 00:13:42,660
HE WAS.
383
00:13:42,660 --> 00:13:43,500
WHEN WE DID POETRY
384
00:13:43,700 --> 00:13:45,840
HE RECITED A KURT COBAIN SONG
IN CLASS.
385
00:13:46,100 --> 00:13:47,780
WHEN DID HE START
PUMPING IRON?
386
00:13:47,780 --> 00:13:48,620
SERIOUS?
387
00:13:48,620 --> 00:13:49,746
CHRIS SKINNER LIFTING?
388
00:13:50,740 --> 00:13:51,580
I GUESS
YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW
389
00:13:51,580 --> 00:13:53,120
WHAT ANYBODY'S
REALLY LIKE INSIDE.
390
00:13:54,060 --> 00:13:56,060
SO, THERE'S NOTHING
BETWEEN HIM AND THE FREAKS?
391
00:13:56,060 --> 00:13:57,645
WE WOULD'VE HEARD SOMETHING.
392
00:13:57,700 --> 00:13:58,540
THANKS FOR YOUR HELP.
393
00:13:59,220 --> 00:14:00,620
CHRIS ASKED
ABOUT COUNSELING.
394
00:14:01,100 --> 00:14:02,320
HE STARTS
WEIGHTLIFTING.
395
00:14:02,860 --> 00:14:03,700
I DON'T SEE THE BULLY.
396
00:14:03,780 --> 00:14:05,160
I'M SEEING THE
98-POUND WEAKLING.
397
00:14:05,660 --> 00:14:07,420
I JUST WONDER
WHO KICKED SAND IN HIS FACE.
398
00:14:09,580 --> 00:14:11,580
CHRIS STARTED SHOWING UP
TO WORK OUT, LIKE, A MONTH AGO.
399
00:14:12,100 --> 00:14:13,620
WHY HIS SUDDEN INTEREST IN
BODYBUILDING?
400
00:14:14,380 --> 00:14:15,700
HE SAID HE WANTED TO GET CUT.
401
00:14:15,700 --> 00:14:17,280
THEN MAYBE THE JERKS IN SCHOOL
WOULD LEAVE HIM ALONE.
402
00:14:17,860 --> 00:14:19,612
WHICH JERKS ARE
WE TALKING ABOUT?
403
00:14:19,900 --> 00:14:21,818
HEY, MAN, IN THIS
PLACE? TAKE YOUR PICK.
404
00:14:21,900 --> 00:14:22,740
BETWEEN YOU AND ME--
405
00:14:22,740 --> 00:14:24,534
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
406
00:14:28,100 --> 00:14:28,940
I DON'T KNOW.
407
00:14:30,860 --> 00:14:32,403
WHO ARE YOU PROTECTING?
408
00:14:32,460 --> 00:14:33,961
THE KID WHO KILLED
YOUR BUDDY?
409
00:14:36,060 --> 00:14:37,790
I THINK CHRIS WAS HAVING
SOME PROBLEMS WITH THE FREAKS.
410
00:14:38,410 --> 00:14:39,453
WHO IN PARTICULAR?
411
00:14:40,250 --> 00:14:42,090
THERE'S, LIKE,
TEN OR 12 OF THEM.
412
00:14:42,090 --> 00:14:43,030
WE NEED THE NAMES.
413
00:14:47,250 --> 00:14:48,930
YOU TALKED TO MY SON
AT SCHOOL ALREADY.
414
00:14:49,610 --> 00:14:50,450
LOOK, WE JUST NEED
415
00:14:50,450 --> 00:14:51,970
TO ASK A COUPLE
OF FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS.
416
00:14:52,011 --> 00:14:53,346
UH-HUH. YOU THINK JON'S INVOLVED?
417
00:14:54,152 --> 00:14:54,992
I'LL TAKE CARE OF IT
418
00:14:54,992 --> 00:14:56,618
SANDRA.
419
00:14:58,890 --> 00:15:01,030
THE BOY'S BODY WAS FOUND
JUST DOWN THE BLOCK FROM HERE.
420
00:15:01,090 --> 00:15:01,930
IT'S PROBABLY
A COINCIDENCE
421
00:15:02,210 --> 00:15:03,270
BUT WE NEED
TO CHECK IT OUT.
422
00:15:03,490 --> 00:15:04,741
WELL, WHAT DO YOU WANT
TO KNOW?
423
00:15:04,810 --> 00:15:05,790
WE'D RATHER
TALK TO HIM.
424
00:15:06,450 --> 00:15:07,890
RIGHT NOW,
YOU'LL HAVE TO TALK TO ME.
425
00:15:08,930 --> 00:15:11,558
WHERE WAS YOUR SON
THURSDAY AFTERNOON?
426
00:15:12,250 --> 00:15:13,090
HE NEEDS AN ALIBI?
427
00:15:13,090 --> 00:15:13,930
THAT'D BE A START.
428
00:15:14,690 --> 00:15:17,484
WELL, I THINK I'D LIKE
TO SEE A LAWYER FIRST.
429
00:15:17,730 --> 00:15:19,570
I GOT TO TELL YOU,
YOU'RE NOT HELPING YOUR BOY
430
00:15:19,570 --> 00:15:20,410
LIKE THIS.
431
00:15:20,410 --> 00:15:22,412
DO YOU HAVE
A BUSINESS CARD?
432
00:15:25,650 --> 00:15:27,130
"DETECTIVE GREEN," UM
433
00:15:27,930 --> 00:15:32,351
I'LL CALL YOU WHEN JON'S READY
TO BE INTERVIEWED, ALL RIGHT?
434
00:15:32,434 --> 00:15:33,727
GOOD NIGHT.
435
00:15:34,510 --> 00:15:35,350
BINGO.
436
00:15:35,350 --> 00:15:37,270
MAYBE SOMEBODY UP HERE
BOUGHT A NEPTUNE BAR.
437
00:15:37,353 --> 00:15:38,521
I WAS HOME
ALL DAY THURSDAY.
438
00:15:38,521 --> 00:15:39,522
WHY?
439
00:15:39,522 --> 00:15:40,773
ANYBODY COME
TO YOUR DOOR
440
00:15:42,830 --> 00:15:44,310
AROUND 5:00, 6:00,
SELLING CANDY?
441
00:15:44,310 --> 00:15:45,150
NO.
442
00:15:45,150 --> 00:15:46,110
YOU KNOW THE TELFORDS?
443
00:15:46,710 --> 00:15:48,310
WHO-- THE FAMILY
DOWN THE HALL?
444
00:15:48,310 --> 00:15:49,150
NOT REALLY.
445
00:15:49,150 --> 00:15:50,067
THOSE BRONCO MENTHOLS?
446
00:15:50,270 --> 00:15:51,521
YEAH, MAN,
YOU WANT ONE?
447
00:15:51,590 --> 00:15:52,430
YEAH, FOR LATER.
448
00:15:53,150 --> 00:15:54,950
YOU EVER SMOKE
OUT HERE IN THE HALLWAY?
449
00:15:54,950 --> 00:15:56,470
MY WIFE WON'T LET ME SMOKE
IN THE APARTMENT.
450
00:15:56,790 --> 00:15:59,126
YEAH? WHERE DO YOU GO?
451
00:15:59,190 --> 00:16:03,319
UH, SHE MAKES ME STAND OUT HERE.
452
00:16:03,350 --> 00:16:05,435
YOU ALWAYS LEAVE YOUR BUTTS
ON THE FLOOR?
453
00:16:05,510 --> 00:16:06,410
I KNOW, I KNOW.
454
00:16:06,910 --> 00:16:08,230
THE SUPER'S BEEN ON ME ABOUT IT.
455
00:16:08,230 --> 00:16:09,950
SAYS HE ALWAYS HAS
TO MOP UP AFTER ME.
456
00:16:11,270 --> 00:16:13,550
I THROW HIM AN EXTRA $20
AROUND CHRISTMAS, YOU KNOW.
457
00:16:13,550 --> 00:16:15,510
YOU HEAR ANYTHING UNUSUAL
GOING ON OUT HERE
458
00:16:15,552 --> 00:16:16,636
THURSDAY AFTERNOON?
459
00:16:16,790 --> 00:16:17,630
I'M A PERCUSSIONIST.
460
00:16:18,030 --> 00:16:19,630
I'VE BEEN WORKING ON
SOME NEW MATERIAL, MAN.
461
00:16:20,190 --> 00:16:21,630
I WOULDN'T HAVE HEARD
A CANNON GO OFF.
462
00:16:23,110 --> 00:16:25,630
THE CIGARETTE ASH WE FOUND
IN THE STAIRWELL MATCHES
463
00:16:25,630 --> 00:16:28,090
THE TOBACCO RESIDUE
ON THE OUTER GARBAGE BAG.
464
00:16:28,630 --> 00:16:30,410
THE TELFORD KID DRAGGED
THE BODY DOWN THE STAIRS
465
00:16:30,550 --> 00:16:31,450
AND ONTO THE STREET.
466
00:16:31,830 --> 00:16:33,660
PLUS, THE KID
WON'T GIVE US AN ALIBI.
467
00:16:33,660 --> 00:16:35,160
OR HIS FATHER WON'T
GIVE HIM A CHANCE.
468
00:16:35,420 --> 00:16:36,672
WHAT DO WE HAVE
FOR MOTIVE?
469
00:16:36,672 --> 00:16:37,980
THE TELFORD KID'S
CLIQUE AT SCHOOL
470
00:16:37,980 --> 00:16:39,140
WAS GIVING CHRIS
SKINNER A HARD TIME.
471
00:16:39,220 --> 00:16:40,160
HE STARTED PUMPING IRON
472
00:16:40,300 --> 00:16:41,680
SO MAYBE THEY'D
STOP HASSLING HIM.
473
00:16:41,940 --> 00:16:42,780
I'LL TALK TO CARMICHAEL.
474
00:16:43,060 --> 00:16:45,620
THAT SOUNDS LIKE ENOUGH
FOR A SEARCH WARRANT.
475
00:16:45,620 --> 00:16:46,620
WHERE'S
YOUR SON'S BEDROOM?
476
00:16:46,620 --> 00:16:47,788
JON'S DOING
HIS HOMEWORK.
477
00:16:47,830 --> 00:16:50,541
POLICE.
478
00:16:51,540 --> 00:16:53,792
UNLOCK THE DOOR, JON.
479
00:16:53,834 --> 00:16:55,211
BUST IT.
480
00:16:59,980 --> 00:17:01,140
PLEASE,
DON'T HURT HIM.
481
00:17:01,140 --> 00:17:02,766
DON'T SAY A WORD, JON.
482
00:17:04,059 --> 00:17:05,019
"HOMEWORK," HUH?
483
00:17:05,060 --> 00:17:06,740
BIKER SLUTS ROCK VEGAS.
484
00:17:07,660 --> 00:17:08,820
MUST BE THE NEW MATH.
485
00:17:09,180 --> 00:17:10,220
NO PLACE LIKE HOME.
486
00:17:10,740 --> 00:17:11,840
HE'S A TEENAGE BOY.
487
00:17:11,881 --> 00:17:13,133
OH, YEAH?
488
00:17:13,174 --> 00:17:15,218
WHAT'S THIS?
489
00:17:16,820 --> 00:17:19,656
A ZIT REMOVER?
490
00:17:23,740 --> 00:17:25,040
MURDER IN THE SECOND DEGREE.
491
00:17:25,420 --> 00:17:26,337
HOW DOES
THE DEFENDANT PLEAD?
492
00:17:26,900 --> 00:17:29,960
NOT GUILTY. PEOPLE REQUEST $500,000 BAIL.
493
00:17:30,180 --> 00:17:31,360
THEY'RE DREAMING, YOUR HONOR.
494
00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,340
WE HAVE A WEAPON THAT MATCHES THE FATAL
WOUND.
495
00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:34,860
NO BLOOD WAS FOUND
ON THIS WEAPON
496
00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,160
OR IN THE DEFENDANT'S
APARTMENT.
497
00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:37,680
THERE'S EVIDENCE
THE VICTIM'S BODY
498
00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,220
WAS DRAGGED THROUGH
THE DEFENDANT'S STAIRWELL.
499
00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:40,900
TOBACCO RESIDUE
THAT COULD HAVE COME
500
00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:41,800
FROM A MILLION
PLACES.
501
00:17:41,842 --> 00:17:43,552
ALL THEY'VE GOT
IS COINCIDENCES.
502
00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,060
YOU GET ENOUGH COINCIDENCES,
THEY START TO ADD UP.
503
00:17:46,102 --> 00:17:47,270
YES, THEY DO.
504
00:17:47,311 --> 00:17:49,730
TO $20,000.
505
00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:55,880
CAN'T FAULT JUDGE FRASER
ON BAIL.
506
00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:58,660
YOU PUT TELFORD
AND CHRIS SKINNER TOGETHER
507
00:17:58,800 --> 00:17:59,760
ON THE DAY OF THE MURDER?
508
00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:00,740
NOBODY SAW THEM
TOGETHER.
509
00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,565
AND HOW DID HE MANAGE TO CLEAN UP ALL THAT
BLOOD?
510
00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,320
HE GOT AN "A"
IN HOME EC...
511
00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:07,720
OR MAYBE HE HAD HELP.
512
00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,020
I NEVER SAW CHRIS
OR JON THAT DAY.
513
00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:12,370
YOU STICKING
WITH THAT?
514
00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:13,280
IT'S THE TRUTH.
515
00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:14,140
THEN YOU'RE
UNDER ARREST.
516
00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,040
YOU SAID YOU WERE JUST
GOING TO TALK TO HIM.
517
00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:17,100
AND HE'S NOT TALKING
518
00:18:17,360 --> 00:18:18,960
SO THAT MAKES HIM
AN ACCOMPLICE TO MURDER
519
00:18:19,120 --> 00:18:20,940
SO YOU AND JON ARE
GOING UPSTATE TOGETHER.
520
00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:22,160
FOR A COUPLE OF DECADES.
521
00:18:22,202 --> 00:18:23,203
OH, PLEASE!
522
00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:24,620
MY SON DIDN'T DO ANYTHING!
523
00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,380
EXCEPT SET THE WHOLE THING UP.
524
00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,229
JON KILLED CHRIS BECAUSE
HE WAS BULLYING YOU, RIGHT?
525
00:18:29,271 --> 00:18:30,231
THAT'S YOUR CASE?
526
00:18:30,900 --> 00:18:32,420
A SECONDHAND MOTIVE?
527
00:18:32,420 --> 00:18:33,480
IT WASN'T EVEN LIKE THAT.
528
00:18:33,700 --> 00:18:36,260
THAT'S THE ONLY THEORY WE HAVE, SO WE'RE
RUNNING WITH IT.
529
00:18:36,420 --> 00:18:38,620
I NEVER EVEN TOLD JON ABOUT CHRIS PUSHING
ME AROUND.
530
00:18:39,220 --> 00:18:40,580
I DIDN'T WANT HIM
TO THINK I WAS A WIMP.
531
00:18:41,980 --> 00:18:44,660
SO, WHAT DID
YOU TELL JON?
532
00:18:44,660 --> 00:18:49,206
HE TALKS TO YOU, YOU'LL FORGET
ABOUT THIS ACCOMPLICE NONSENSE?
533
00:18:49,248 --> 00:18:51,542
WE'LL SEE.
534
00:18:54,580 --> 00:18:55,880
I SAW HIM ON THE
STREET THAT DAY.
535
00:18:56,580 --> 00:18:58,680
ALL I SAID WAS, CHRIS WAS IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD SELLING CANDY.
536
00:18:58,721 --> 00:18:59,931
WHY?
537
00:19:01,020 --> 00:19:02,400
I KNEW JON LIKED
MESSING WITH HIM.
538
00:19:02,740 --> 00:19:04,533
Van Buren:
MESSING WITH HIM, HOW?
539
00:19:04,580 --> 00:19:06,700
I DON'T KNOW. JUST GIVING HIM A HARD
TIME.
540
00:19:06,940 --> 00:19:08,180
WHAT DID JON SAY
WHEN YOU TOLD HIM
541
00:19:08,260 --> 00:19:11,020
ABOUT CHRIS?
NOTHING ABOUT KILLING HIM.
542
00:19:11,062 --> 00:19:12,104
THEN WHAT?
543
00:19:12,146 --> 00:19:19,070
HE SAID, "I HOPE THAT FAGGOT
COMES TO MY BUILDING."
544
00:19:20,700 --> 00:19:21,960
NOT EXACTLY
A DEATH THREAT.
545
00:19:22,420 --> 00:19:24,220
HE WAS LYING IN WAIT
FOR CHRIS SKINNER.
546
00:19:24,303 --> 00:19:25,596
BECAUSE HE HAS
A SWEET TOOTH.
547
00:19:25,940 --> 00:19:27,400
HE ENJOYED
HASSLING THE KID.
548
00:19:27,890 --> 00:19:29,725
WHY NOT TRY OUT
HIS TOYS ON HIM?
549
00:19:30,050 --> 00:19:31,970
HIS PARENTS KNEW THAT
HE HAD THESE WEAPONS?
550
00:19:31,970 --> 00:19:33,130
THEY WERE HANGING
ON HIS WALL.
551
00:19:33,890 --> 00:19:35,224
HE EVER THREATEN
ANYONE ELSE?
552
00:19:35,490 --> 00:19:36,850
SO FAR, NONE OF THE KIDS
ARE TALKING.
553
00:19:37,730 --> 00:19:40,066
AND THE PEOPLE
WHO AREN'T KIDS?
554
00:19:43,810 --> 00:19:45,750
TEACHING CREATIVE WRITING
IS LIKE BEING A THERAPIST.
555
00:19:46,650 --> 00:19:48,570
SOME OF THE STUFF THEY
WRITE WOULD FREAK YOU OUT.
556
00:19:49,650 --> 00:19:52,361
WHAT KIND OF STUFF
DID JON TELFORD WRITE?
557
00:19:52,403 --> 00:19:54,570
VERY DISTURBING.
558
00:19:54,570 --> 00:19:58,330
I SAVED ONE OF HIS STORIES.
559
00:19:58,330 --> 00:20:01,090
"I SENT MY ENEMIES' GIBS
FLYING THROUGH THE AIR."
560
00:20:01,132 --> 00:20:03,009
"GIBS?"
561
00:20:03,051 --> 00:20:04,302
BODY PARTS.
562
00:20:04,890 --> 00:20:07,110
"I SPAMMED HIM WITH MY PILL,
THREW MY GRENADE
563
00:20:07,850 --> 00:20:11,450
AND FRAGGED ANOTHER FRESH BEER,
MADE ANOTHER EASY KILL."
564
00:20:11,492 --> 00:20:13,494
ANTHONY BURGESS
WOULD BE PROUD.
565
00:20:14,650 --> 00:20:16,210
I WISH BURGESS
WAS THE INSPIRATION.
566
00:20:17,050 --> 00:20:18,650
IT'S FROM A COMPUTER GAME
CALLED TERROR.
567
00:20:19,250 --> 00:20:20,810
JON TOLD ME HE PLAYS IT
ON THE INTERNET
568
00:20:20,810 --> 00:20:22,562
FIVE, SIX HOURS A NIGHT.
569
00:20:23,370 --> 00:20:25,247
YOU MIND IF I
BORROW THAT?
570
00:20:25,530 --> 00:20:26,990
I CALLED JON'S PARENTS
ABOUT IT
571
00:20:27,030 --> 00:20:28,130
BUT HIS FATHER
HUNG UP ON ME.
572
00:20:30,350 --> 00:20:31,310
I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO.
573
00:20:33,070 --> 00:20:36,090
I STILL CAN'T BELIEVE THAT JON
ACTUALLY KILLED THAT BOY.
574
00:20:37,510 --> 00:20:40,990
"THEN I LAID A GASH IN THE NECK
OF SUPERFLY JONES."
575
00:20:42,150 --> 00:20:43,230
CHARACTER FROM THE GAME.
576
00:20:44,750 --> 00:20:46,250
WE SEIZED HIS COMPUTER
THIS MORNING
577
00:20:46,430 --> 00:20:48,710
AND I FOUND THESE VIDEO GAMES
ON HIS HARD DRIVE.
578
00:20:48,990 --> 00:20:50,610
THE VIOLENCE LOOKS
SO OVER-THE-TOP.
579
00:20:50,830 --> 00:20:51,670
THAT'S WHAT SELLS.
580
00:20:51,990 --> 00:20:53,510
TERROR II IS THE BEST
ON THE MARKET.
581
00:20:53,950 --> 00:20:56,410
THE MARINES USE GAMES LIKE THESE
TO TRAIN THEIR NEWBIES.
582
00:20:56,750 --> 00:20:57,790
MUST BE A
MALE THING.
583
00:20:58,070 --> 00:20:59,530
MY NEPHEW HAS
THE OLD VERSION.
584
00:21:00,153 --> 00:21:00,993
IT GETS TO YOU.
585
00:21:00,993 --> 00:21:03,287
SO YOU LIKE THIS JUNK?
586
00:21:03,329 --> 00:21:04,330
LIGHTEN UP, ABBIE.
587
00:21:04,372 --> 00:21:05,790
HE GOT ME TO TRY
IT ONE NIGHT.
588
00:21:05,790 --> 00:21:08,626
3:00 IN THE MORNING,
I WAS STILL HYPNOTIZED.
589
00:21:10,070 --> 00:21:12,239
ANYTHING ELSE INTERESTING IN HIS COMPUTER?
590
00:21:12,270 --> 00:21:14,314
I DOWNLOADED A BUNCH
OF E-MAILS
591
00:21:14,355 --> 00:21:16,274
FOR YOU.
592
00:21:18,276 --> 00:21:20,069
ANY USEFUL?
593
00:21:20,070 --> 00:21:24,867
LET'S SEE... TELFORD E-MAILED
SOMEBODY NAMED DOOMMASTER.
594
00:21:25,380 --> 00:21:28,716
"DID YOU NOTICE
SKINNER'S FAGGOT HAIRCUT?"
595
00:21:28,758 --> 00:21:31,636
HERE'S ONE ABOUT SOME KID
NAMED LEO.
596
00:21:31,719 --> 00:21:34,300
TELFORD WAS TRYING
TO FIGURE OUT A WAY
597
00:21:34,300 --> 00:21:35,540
TO PUT URINE
IN HIS LOCKER.
598
00:21:41,140 --> 00:21:42,660
I'M JUST GLAD HE DIDN'T KILL LEO.
599
00:21:44,060 --> 00:21:46,145
DID YOU HAVE PROBLEMS
WITH JON?
600
00:21:46,187 --> 00:21:47,500
NOT REALLY.
601
00:21:47,500 --> 00:21:49,460
OH, COME ON, LEO.
602
00:21:49,460 --> 00:21:50,360
IT'S NO BIG DEAL.
603
00:21:51,860 --> 00:21:53,260
HE'LL BARELY TALK
TO ME ABOUT IT.
604
00:21:55,260 --> 00:21:57,200
MAYBE YOU'D FEEL BETTER
IF YOU GOT IT OFF YOUR CHEST.
605
00:22:00,140 --> 00:22:01,980
WELL, I'LL TELL YOU
WHAT I KNOW.
606
00:22:01,980 --> 00:22:05,380
LAST YEAR IN STUDY HALL, JON PUT A DEAD
RAT IN LEO'S BACKPACK.
607
00:22:06,220 --> 00:22:08,900
THIS YEAR, HE SCRATCHED THE WORD "FAGGOT"
ON HIS LOCKER.
608
00:22:09,660 --> 00:22:11,380
DID YOU COMPLAIN
TO THE SCHOOL?
609
00:22:11,380 --> 00:22:12,400
LEO DIDN'T WANT ME TO.
610
00:22:13,180 --> 00:22:14,540
HE WAS AFRAID
THAT'D MAKE IT WORSE.
611
00:22:15,100 --> 00:22:16,780
ONE OF HIS FRIENDS TOLD
ME ABOUT THE LOCKER.
612
00:22:17,700 --> 00:22:19,500
I DECIDED TO GO SEE
TELFORD'S FATHER.
613
00:22:19,542 --> 00:22:20,502
AND HOW DID HE REACT?
614
00:22:21,580 --> 00:22:23,940
HE SAID I HAD NO PROOF
AND IF I CALLED THE SCHOOL
615
00:22:24,360 --> 00:22:25,240
HE WAS GOING TO SUE ME.
616
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,267
YOU SURE IT WAS JON?
617
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,840
LEO SAYS JON IS THE ONLY ONE
WHO CALLS HIM "FAGGOT."
618
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,368
LOOK, IT'S NO BIG DEAL.
619
00:22:34,409 --> 00:22:36,161
AND IT DID NOT
END THERE.
620
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,380
THREE WEEKS LATER, HE LOCKED HIM IN A
BATHROOM STALL.
621
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:39,360
COME ON, DAD.
622
00:22:39,360 --> 00:22:40,640
I CALLED
TELFORD'S FATHER.
623
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,480
HE SAID LEO SHOULD LEARN
TO TOUGH IT OUT.
624
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,180
SOUNDS LIKE YOU WERE HAVING
A PRETTY ROUGH TIME.
625
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:47,600
LET'S FACE IT.
626
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,620
I'M SHORT.
I'M NERDY-LOOKING.
627
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,520
BULLIES LIKE JON ARE
GOING TO PICK ON ME.
628
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,587
DID HE EVER THREATEN YOU?
629
00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,680
IF HE DID,
I NEED YOU TO TELL ME.
630
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:02,780
IT'S REALLY
NOTHING.
631
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,560
LOOK, LEO, MAYBE IT'S OKAY
632
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,100
TO KEEP WHAT HAPPENED
TO YOU A SECRET
633
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,420
BUT CHRIS SKINNER WAS MURDERED.
634
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,575
JON ONCE TOOK
OUT A KNIFE
635
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,370
AND TRIED TO PULL ME
INTO HIS BUILDING.
636
00:23:21,453 --> 00:23:22,663
WHAT HAPPENED?
637
00:23:24,390 --> 00:23:26,070
SAID HE HAD A ROOM
IN HIS BASEMENT
638
00:23:26,070 --> 00:23:27,870
WHERE HE WAS GOING TO USE
ME FOR SWORD PRACTICE.
639
00:23:29,190 --> 00:23:30,030
THEN I RAN AWAY.
640
00:23:30,710 --> 00:23:33,463
WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME?
641
00:23:33,870 --> 00:23:35,750
WHAT WERE YOU
GOING TO DO, DAD?
642
00:23:35,750 --> 00:23:38,295
CALL HIS
FATHER AGAIN?
643
00:23:41,710 --> 00:23:43,470
WHICH ONE IS YOUR STORAGE ROOM,
MR. TELFORD?
644
00:23:43,470 --> 00:23:44,310
WHY SHOULD I HELP YOU?
645
00:23:44,310 --> 00:23:45,610
YOU'RE TRYING
TO LOCK UP MY SON.
646
00:23:46,070 --> 00:23:47,330
YOUR SON IS A PREDATOR.
647
00:23:47,950 --> 00:23:49,827
WHY? BECAUSE HE
PLAYS VIDEO GAMES?
648
00:23:50,190 --> 00:23:51,030
THIS IS IT.
649
00:23:51,830 --> 00:23:52,670
GIVE US THE KEY.
650
00:23:52,672 --> 00:23:53,512
I DON'T HAVE TO.
651
00:23:53,512 --> 00:23:54,763
YOU'RE RIGHT.
652
00:24:06,790 --> 00:24:07,830
WHAT THE HELL IS THIS?
653
00:24:07,830 --> 00:24:08,670
I BROUGHT IT HOME
654
00:24:08,670 --> 00:24:09,590
FROM THE STORE WHERE I WORK.
655
00:24:09,590 --> 00:24:10,430
COULDN'T YOU
656
00:24:10,430 --> 00:24:11,556
GET ANY LIVE
VOLUNTEERS?
657
00:24:12,670 --> 00:24:13,750
YOU KNEW ABOUT THIS?
658
00:24:13,750 --> 00:24:15,250
WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL?
JON WAS PRACTICING.
659
00:24:16,390 --> 00:24:18,210
LOOKS LIKE HE WAS GETTING PRETTY GOOD AT
IT.
660
00:24:22,450 --> 00:24:23,750
THE PEOPLE'S MOTION
SHOULD BE DENIED
661
00:24:23,930 --> 00:24:25,070
IN ITS ENTIRETY, JUDGE.
662
00:24:25,650 --> 00:24:26,730
WHAT EVIDENCE
ARE YOU SEEKING
663
00:24:26,850 --> 00:24:27,768
TO INTRODUCE,
MR. McCOY?
664
00:24:28,090 --> 00:24:29,424
JON TELFORD'S
PRACTICE DUMMY.
665
00:24:30,410 --> 00:24:31,730
EVIDENCE OF HIS
INTERNET FANTASIES.
666
00:24:31,970 --> 00:24:33,270
PRIOR INSTANCES
OF HIS BULLYING.
667
00:24:33,490 --> 00:24:34,390
IT'S PREJUDICIAL, JUDGE.
668
00:24:34,530 --> 00:24:35,650
IT'S AN ATTACK
ON HIS CHARACTER.
669
00:24:35,890 --> 00:24:36,890
HE SLICED UP
A MANNEQUIN
670
00:24:37,090 --> 00:24:39,110
IN THE EXACT MANNER
CHRIS SKINNER WAS MURDERED.
671
00:24:39,410 --> 00:24:40,470
IT GOES TO
MODUS OPERANDI.
672
00:24:41,010 --> 00:24:43,650
MODUS OPERANDI IMPLIES A PRIOR CRIME WAS
COMMITTED.
673
00:24:43,733 --> 00:24:44,610
THERE'S NO LAW
674
00:24:44,610 --> 00:24:45,710
AGAINST DEFACING
A MANNEQUIN.
675
00:24:45,890 --> 00:24:46,730
THERE ARE LAWS
AGAINST POSSESSING
676
00:24:46,772 --> 00:24:48,273
THESE KINDS OF WEAPONS.
677
00:24:48,370 --> 00:24:50,450
AND YOU'RE FREE TO INTRODUCE THE FACT MY
CLIENT
678
00:24:50,650 --> 00:24:53,090
BROKE THOSE LAWS IF HE TAKES
THE STAND, WHICH HE'S NOT.
679
00:24:53,370 --> 00:24:55,414
MR. GRANICK CAN PORTRAY
HIS CLIENT AS A CHOIRBOY?
680
00:24:55,810 --> 00:24:57,230
IF HE OPENS THE DOOR,
MR. McCOY
681
00:24:57,490 --> 00:24:58,750
IT ALL BECOMES RELEVANT.
682
00:24:59,450 --> 00:25:01,490
NOW, UNTIL THEN, I'LL PERMIT YOU
683
00:25:01,490 --> 00:25:03,283
TO INTRODUCE...
WHAT DO YOU CALL IT?
684
00:25:03,325 --> 00:25:04,285
KAMA.
685
00:25:04,327 --> 00:25:05,370
THIS KAMA.
686
00:25:05,690 --> 00:25:08,050
YOU CAN ARGUE IT'S A UNIQUE
WEAPON THAT INFLICTED
687
00:25:08,370 --> 00:25:09,210
A UNIQUE WOUND.
688
00:25:09,330 --> 00:25:10,498
NOW, THAT'S
LEGITIMATE
689
00:25:10,539 --> 00:25:11,970
CIRCUMSTANTIAL
EVIDENCE.
690
00:25:11,970 --> 00:25:12,910
THE OTHER STUFF IS OUT.
691
00:25:15,162 --> 00:25:19,041
VAN NESS EXCLUDED ALL
OUR BAD ACTS EVIDENCE.
692
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,440
HE MAY AS WELL
HAVE DISMISSED THE CASE.
693
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:23,800
WE HAVE
RYAN VELARDI'S TESTIMONY.
694
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:24,880
NOT UNLESS YOU CAN
695
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,040
TALK SOME SENSE
INTO HIS MOTHER.
696
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:29,800
RYAN DIDN'T SEE
697
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,120
HIS FRIEND JON, LIKE HE SAID.
698
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:32,980
WHEN HE SPOKE
TO MISS CARMICHAEL
699
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,080
HE WAS CONFUSED.
700
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,720
HE DIDN'T SEEM
CONFUSED TO ME.
701
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,360
YOU THREATENED HIM
WITH A MURDER CHARGE.
702
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:39,360
HE WAS JUST SAYING
703
00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:40,340
WHAT YOU WANTED
TO HEAR.
704
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,093
DID SOMEBODY GET TO HIM,
MRS. VELARDI?
705
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:44,640
IF THERE'S BEEN
WITNESS TAMPERING
706
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:45,720
WE CAN MAKE IT STOP.
707
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,040
IT'S NOT THAT.
708
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,026
SO, WHAT'S GOING ON,
MRS. VELARDI?
709
00:25:50,068 --> 00:25:51,403
HE'S SCARED.
710
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,472
SCARED OF WHAT?
711
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:55,480
IF YOU DON'T HELP US
712
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:56,920
I'LL PROSECUTE YOU
FOR TAMPERING.
713
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,560
OH, FIRST YOU THREATEN HIM,
NOW YOU'RE THREATENING ME?
714
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,000
HE'S A WITNESS
IN A MURDER CASE.
715
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,080
I NEED HIS TESTIMONY
TO CONVICT THE KILLER.
716
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:03,920
I DON'T CARE.
717
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,160
I'M NOT PUTTING HIM
IN DANGER.
718
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:06,720
WE CAN
PROTECT HIM.
719
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,280
YOU HAVE TO FIND
SOMEBODY ELSE.
720
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,564
MRS. VELARDI,
HE'S THE ONLY ONE
721
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,640
WHO HEARD JON TELFORD
THREATEN TO HARM THE VICTIM.
722
00:26:16,500 --> 00:26:18,540
PLEASE, MR. McCOY.
723
00:26:18,540 --> 00:26:20,260
MRS. VELARDI,
I'LL SUBPOENA HIM
724
00:26:20,260 --> 00:26:21,480
AND PUT HIM IN
FRONT OF THE JURY.
725
00:26:21,780 --> 00:26:23,180
AND HE'LL SAY
HE MADE A MISTAKE.
726
00:26:24,180 --> 00:26:26,100
HIS LAWYER SAYS
HE DOESN'T HAVE TO TALK TO YOU.
727
00:26:27,260 --> 00:26:28,440
WE HAVE NOTHING ELSE
TO SAY.
728
00:26:34,940 --> 00:26:37,980
RYAN VELARDI WAS THE LINCHPIN
OF OUR CASE.
729
00:26:37,980 --> 00:26:40,774
CAN YOU PUT THE VICTIM
AT TELFORD'S BUILDING?
730
00:26:41,020 --> 00:26:42,800
THE COPS HAVE BEEN
THROUGH IT THREE TIMES.
731
00:26:43,020 --> 00:26:43,960
NOBODY SAW HIM.
732
00:26:44,780 --> 00:26:45,620
THERE WAS A BLANKET.
733
00:26:45,980 --> 00:26:46,940
FRESHLY DRY-CLEANED.
734
00:26:47,260 --> 00:26:48,960
NO HAIRS OR FIBERS
EXCEPT FOR THE VICTIM'S.
735
00:26:49,460 --> 00:26:52,500
THIS TEENAGER COMMITS
THE PERFECT CRIME.
736
00:26:52,780 --> 00:26:53,920
I KNOW,
IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE.
737
00:26:55,980 --> 00:26:58,620
C.S.U. LUMINOLLED
EVERY CONCEIVABLE SPOT
738
00:26:58,620 --> 00:26:59,580
IN THE TELFORDS' BUILDING.
739
00:27:00,460 --> 00:27:01,780
THEY DIDN'T FIND
A DROP OF BLOOD.
740
00:27:01,980 --> 00:27:04,580
WE HAVE THE SPLATTER GAMES,
THE VIOLENT BEHAVIOR
741
00:27:04,860 --> 00:27:07,860
THE ILLEGAL WEAPONS,
BUT THERE'S NO WAY TO GET IT IN.
742
00:27:07,902 --> 00:27:09,570
WHERE DID HE
GET THE WEAPONS?
743
00:27:09,620 --> 00:27:10,460
MAIL ORDER.
744
00:27:10,460 --> 00:27:11,860
PAID FOR WITH HIS FATHER'S CREDIT CARD.
745
00:27:13,340 --> 00:27:14,180
KID GETS OFF
746
00:27:14,850 --> 00:27:16,110
FATHER BUYS HIS SON
A BAZOOKA.
747
00:27:19,850 --> 00:27:20,690
CHARGE THE FATHER.
748
00:27:21,930 --> 00:27:23,570
WITH PROVIDING THE
INSTRUMENTALITY?
749
00:27:23,612 --> 00:27:24,613
WITH MURDER.
750
00:27:24,655 --> 00:27:26,907
ON WHAT BASIS?
751
00:27:26,949 --> 00:27:28,909
DEPRAVED INDIFFERENCE.
752
00:27:29,650 --> 00:27:32,810
HOLD THE FATHER RESPONSIBLE FOR
THE CRIMINAL ACTS OF THE SON?
753
00:27:32,810 --> 00:27:33,890
YOU DON'T THINK
HE'S RESPONSIBLE?
754
00:27:33,890 --> 00:27:34,933
MORALLY, MAYBE.
755
00:27:35,850 --> 00:27:36,810
IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME.
756
00:27:37,210 --> 00:27:39,250
IT'S ABOUT TIME WE KNOCKED
SOME SENSE INTO THESE PARENTS.
757
00:27:39,292 --> 00:27:43,004
YOU'RE WIELDING
A PRETTY BIG STICK.
758
00:27:44,330 --> 00:27:46,730
THEY DON'T DO THE JOB,
PUTS IT ON US.
759
00:27:46,772 --> 00:27:48,356
DOES IT?
760
00:27:48,610 --> 00:27:49,690
NOBODY'S EVER TRIED IT.
761
00:27:52,010 --> 00:27:54,596
DID THAT EVER STOP
YOU TWO BEFORE?
762
00:28:01,530 --> 00:28:03,156
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
763
00:28:04,810 --> 00:28:05,810
IT MAKES ME NERVOUS.
764
00:28:07,570 --> 00:28:08,410
I DON'T KNOW.
765
00:28:09,090 --> 00:28:11,370
TELFORD ENCOURAGES
JON'S AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOR.
766
00:28:11,370 --> 00:28:12,250
HE ARMS HIM
TO THE TEETH.
767
00:28:12,490 --> 00:28:13,490
JURY MIGHT BUY IT.
768
00:28:13,790 --> 00:28:14,990
THAT'S WHAT MAKES ME NERVOUS.
769
00:28:15,310 --> 00:28:16,190
WE TRY THEM TOGETHER
770
00:28:16,430 --> 00:28:18,470
ALL JON'S PRIOR BAD ACTS
BECOME PROBATIVE.
771
00:28:19,030 --> 00:28:21,210
WE DON'T GET THE FATHER,
AT LEAST WE GET THE KID.
772
00:28:24,421 --> 00:28:26,215
BOMBS AWAY.
773
00:28:28,470 --> 00:28:29,763
YOU'RE ARRESTING ME
FOR WHAT?
774
00:28:29,830 --> 00:28:30,990
FOR THE MURDER
OF CHRIS SKINNER.
775
00:28:31,031 --> 00:28:32,533
WHY ARE DOING THIS?
776
00:28:32,630 --> 00:28:33,470
TURN AROUND,
MR. TELFORD.
777
00:28:33,670 --> 00:28:34,830
NOT UNTIL
MY LAWYER GETS HERE.
778
00:28:34,950 --> 00:28:36,670
YOU SURE YOU WANT TO DO THIS
IN FRONT OF YOUR SON?
779
00:28:36,670 --> 00:28:37,838
HEY, GET AWAY
FROM ME, MAN.
780
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,173
GET YOUR HANDS
OFF ME!
781
00:28:39,214 --> 00:28:40,591
GO TO YOUR ROOM!
782
00:28:41,350 --> 00:28:42,270
I DON'T BELIEVE THIS.
783
00:28:42,470 --> 00:28:44,110
NO, I DIDN'T
EXPECT YOU WOULD.
784
00:28:44,110 --> 00:28:44,950
GIVE HIM MIRANDA.
785
00:28:45,030 --> 00:28:46,230
YOU HAVE THE RIGHT
TO REMAIN SILENT
786
00:28:46,590 --> 00:28:47,790
WHICH YOU SHOULD
TAKE US UP ON.
787
00:28:47,790 --> 00:28:49,310
ANYTHING YOU SAY
CAN AND WILL
788
00:28:49,470 --> 00:28:51,010
BE USED AGAINST YOU
IN A COURT OF LAW.
789
00:28:51,310 --> 00:28:52,730
JUDGE FRASER
IN ARRAIGNMENTS
790
00:28:53,510 --> 00:28:55,410
DIDN'T THINK OUR CASE
WAS WORTH BAIL.
791
00:28:55,452 --> 00:28:56,536
HIS PROBLEM.
792
00:28:57,630 --> 00:28:59,810
OUR PROBLEM IS HOW TO MAKE
A CASE AGAINST TELFORD.
793
00:29:00,270 --> 00:29:02,290
MAKE SURE THE JURY KNOWS
HE DROPPED THE BALL.
794
00:29:02,790 --> 00:29:03,630
AND WE GET A CONVICTION
795
00:29:03,830 --> 00:29:04,670
FOR BAD PARENTING.
796
00:29:05,750 --> 00:29:07,627
HE GAVE HIS SON A SWORD.
797
00:29:08,110 --> 00:29:09,830
SENT HIM OUT
TO PRACTICE NECK CHOPS.
798
00:29:11,370 --> 00:29:12,930
BAD PARENTING
IN THE FIRST DEGREE.
799
00:29:13,370 --> 00:29:15,372
HIS INDIFFERENCE
CREATED THE RISK.
800
00:29:15,730 --> 00:29:18,190
ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE
THAT KID ATTACKED SOMEBODY.
801
00:29:20,109 --> 00:29:22,069
OKAY.
802
00:29:22,890 --> 00:29:24,070
SUPPOSE WE PULL IT OFF--
803
00:29:25,890 --> 00:29:27,601
WHO'S NEXT, ADAM?
804
00:29:30,130 --> 00:29:32,950
WHAT DID POTTER STEWART
SAY ABOUT PORNOGRAPHY?
805
00:29:33,770 --> 00:29:36,230
"I CAN'T DEFINE WHAT IT IS,
BUT I KNOW IT WHEN I SEE IT."
806
00:29:36,271 --> 00:29:38,232
RIGHT.
807
00:29:38,273 --> 00:29:41,443
TELFORD COULD'VE
STOPPED HIS SON.
808
00:29:41,650 --> 00:29:44,736
THE WAY I READ THE LAW,
MAKES HIM A MURDERER.
809
00:29:44,970 --> 00:29:45,970
MAYBE YOU SHOULD TRY THE CASE.
810
00:29:46,810 --> 00:29:49,897
DO I HAVE TO DO
ALL THE WORK AROUND HERE?
811
00:29:52,250 --> 00:29:54,010
DO YOU THINK
HE'S INNOCENT?
812
00:29:54,010 --> 00:29:54,850
I DON'T.
813
00:29:54,850 --> 00:29:57,269
WELL, I'M SURE
YOU'LL DO FINE.
814
00:30:06,570 --> 00:30:08,150
THE PEOPLE WILL PROVE THAT JON
TELFORD
815
00:30:08,370 --> 00:30:11,280
BURIED A MARTIAL ARTS WEAPON
CALLED A KAMA
816
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,740
INTO THE NECK OF CHRIS SKINNER.
817
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:15,980
THE EVIDENCE WILL SHOW
THAT THIS CRIME
818
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:17,000
WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED
819
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,560
HAD IT NOT BEEN
FOR THE TOTAL INDIFFERENCE
820
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:20,700
OF JON TELFORD'S FATHER.
821
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,720
HAD ROBERT TELFORD OPENED
HIS EYES TO WHAT WAS GOING ON
822
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,940
WITH HIS SON IN HIS OWN HOME
823
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:28,920
CHRIS SKINNER WOULD BE
WITH US TODAY.
824
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,120
I'LL BE FRANK WITH YOU,
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
825
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,200
WE'RE ENTERING
UNCHARTED WATERS HERE.
826
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,220
ONCE YOU BRING A CHILD
INTO THIS WORLD
827
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,280
THERE ARE OBLIGATIONS ATTACHED.
828
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,720
PARENTS HAVE A COMMITMENT
TO LOVE AND CARE FOR THEIR CHILD
829
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:47,440
AND TO NURTURE HIS GROWTH
830
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,620
AND THEY ALSO HAVE A COMMITMENT
TO US, TO SOCIETY
831
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,120
TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR CHILD
OBEYS THE LAW.
832
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:56,980
YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR EVIDENCE
833
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,540
THAT ROBERT TELFORD
DISHONORED BOTH COMMITMENTS.
834
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:08,860
HE NURTURED HIS SON'S BRUTALITY
AND ANTISOCIAL BEHAVIOR.
835
00:31:08,860 --> 00:31:12,440
WARNED THAT HIS SON
WAS AGGRESSIVE, A BULLY
836
00:31:13,100 --> 00:31:15,840
A BOY OBSESSED WITH IMAGES
OF CRUELTY AND VIOLENCE
837
00:31:16,060 --> 00:31:16,900
HE SHRUGGED IT OFF.
838
00:31:18,380 --> 00:31:22,260
HE ARMED HIS SON
WITH INSTRUMENTS OF DEATH
839
00:31:23,380 --> 00:31:27,060
AND THEN HE LET HIM LOOSE
ON CHRIS SKINNER.
840
00:31:29,300 --> 00:31:31,960
I DON'T HAVE TO PROVE TO YOU
THAT MR. TELFORD
841
00:31:32,340 --> 00:31:34,900
WAS A DIRECT CAUSE
OF CHRIS'S DEATH.
842
00:31:35,340 --> 00:31:37,120
IF HE COULD HAVE FORESEEN
THAT HIS SON
843
00:31:37,540 --> 00:31:39,860
WOULD USE HIS WEAPONS
TO HARM ANOTHER PERSON
844
00:31:40,420 --> 00:31:42,520
AND IF HE SET THAT CHAIN
OF EVENTS IN MOTION
845
00:31:42,700 --> 00:31:43,700
THROUGH HIS INACTION
846
00:31:44,980 --> 00:31:48,900
THE LAW SAYS HE COMMITTED
DEPRAVED INDIFFERENCE MURDER.
847
00:31:50,260 --> 00:31:51,220
AND IN THAT CASE
848
00:31:52,820 --> 00:31:55,980
THE SINS OF THE SON
SHOULD BE VISITED ON THE FATHER.
849
00:32:05,380 --> 00:32:08,290
LET'S TALK ABOUT
WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON HERE.
850
00:32:09,570 --> 00:32:11,590
THE PEOPLE'S CASE
AGAINST JON TELFORD
851
00:32:12,290 --> 00:32:14,590
IS A HANDFUL
OF CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
852
00:32:15,690 --> 00:32:17,690
MR. McCOY WANTS TO HOLD
853
00:32:17,690 --> 00:32:19,330
THIS PATHETIC BIT
OF EVIDENCE TOGETHER
854
00:32:19,530 --> 00:32:20,390
BY ONE PROPOSITION.
855
00:32:21,570 --> 00:32:25,230
HE'S GOING TO TRY TO PROVE
TO YOU THAT JON IS A BAD BOY.
856
00:32:26,450 --> 00:32:29,930
HE'S ASKING YOU TO CONVICT JON
NOT ON THE EVIDENCE
857
00:32:30,770 --> 00:32:31,670
BUT ON HIS CHARACTER.
858
00:32:32,730 --> 00:32:35,270
AND HE WANTS YOU TO BELIEVE
THAT JON WAS SO MEAN
859
00:32:35,490 --> 00:32:36,610
SO OUT OF CONTROL
860
00:32:38,010 --> 00:32:39,990
THAT HIS FATHER SHOULD BE
HELD LEGALLY RESPONSIBLE.
861
00:32:41,330 --> 00:32:43,010
THE PROSECUTION
OF ROBERT TELFORD
862
00:32:43,490 --> 00:32:47,470
IS A PLOY TO ADMIT BAD CHARACTER
EVIDENCE AGAINST HIS SON.
863
00:32:48,570 --> 00:32:50,948
MR. TELFORD NEVER HEARD
OF CHRIS SKINNER.
864
00:32:51,130 --> 00:32:52,710
HE WAS MILES AWAY
WHEN THIS HAPPENED.
865
00:32:52,890 --> 00:32:55,010
HE DIDN'T HAVE A THING
TO DO WITH HIS MURDER.
866
00:32:56,810 --> 00:32:58,030
FOLLOW THE BALL,
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
867
00:32:59,130 --> 00:33:01,610
THEY CAN'T PROVE A CASE
AGAINST JON DIRECTLY
868
00:33:02,050 --> 00:33:03,310
SO THEY'LL DO IT BY INNUENDO.
869
00:33:04,010 --> 00:33:06,990
AND FOR LACK OF AN EXPLANATION
FOR THIS TERRIBLE CRIME
870
00:33:08,510 --> 00:33:09,370
THEY'LL BLAME THE PARENT.
871
00:33:11,190 --> 00:33:13,070
IF YOU LET THEM DO THIS
TO JON TELFORD...
872
00:33:14,632 --> 00:33:15,472
YOU'LL BE NEXT.
873
00:33:15,472 --> 00:33:17,391
THANK YOU.
874
00:33:23,110 --> 00:33:24,010
THE TOBACCO RESIDUE
875
00:33:24,270 --> 00:33:26,150
WE DISCOVERED
IN THE TELFORD'S STAIRWELL
876
00:33:26,510 --> 00:33:29,110
WAS IDENTICAL TO THE RESIDUE
ON THE GARBAGE BAG
877
00:33:29,270 --> 00:33:30,630
WHERE WE FOUND
THE VICTIM'S BODY.
878
00:33:31,070 --> 00:33:32,570
AND WHEN YOU MADE
THAT DISCOVERY, DETECTIVE
879
00:33:32,790 --> 00:33:33,958
WHAT ACTION DID YOU TAKE?
880
00:33:34,190 --> 00:33:35,450
WE OBTAINED
A SEARCH WARRANT
881
00:33:35,492 --> 00:33:36,577
AND WE RECOVERED
882
00:33:36,870 --> 00:33:39,070
A KAMA IN JON TELFORD'S ROOM.
883
00:33:40,529 --> 00:33:42,656
PEOPLE'S THREE.
884
00:33:43,870 --> 00:33:45,710
WAS THERE ANY KIND
OF FORENSIC TEST
885
00:33:45,870 --> 00:33:46,996
CONDUCTED ON THIS WEAPON?
886
00:33:47,038 --> 00:33:47,998
YES.
887
00:33:48,510 --> 00:33:50,330
IT WAS CONSISTENT
WITH THE FATAL WOUND
888
00:33:50,510 --> 00:33:51,450
IN THE VICTIM'S NECK.
889
00:33:53,110 --> 00:33:53,950
NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
890
00:33:56,630 --> 00:33:58,150
WAS ANY OF THE
VICTIM'S BLOOD
891
00:33:58,630 --> 00:34:02,593
FOUND IN THE TELFORD'S APARTMENT
OR STAIRWELL, DETECTIVE?
892
00:34:02,634 --> 00:34:03,780
NO.
893
00:34:03,780 --> 00:34:05,406
HOW ABOUT ON THE KAMA?
894
00:34:05,490 --> 00:34:06,699
NO.
895
00:34:06,700 --> 00:34:08,180
YOU HAVE CHILDREN,
DON'T YOU, DETECTIVE?
896
00:34:08,180 --> 00:34:09,020
OBJECTION.
897
00:34:09,020 --> 00:34:09,860
WHERE ARE YOU GOING?
898
00:34:10,820 --> 00:34:12,280
THE PROSECUTION
HAS RAISED THE ISSUE
899
00:34:12,380 --> 00:34:13,380
OF PARENTAL RESPONSIBILITY.
900
00:34:13,900 --> 00:34:15,900
I'D LIKE A LITTLE LEEWAY
TO ADDRESS THEIR ARGUMENT.
901
00:34:16,260 --> 00:34:17,820
FINE, JUDGE,
BUT WITH THIS DETECTIVE?
902
00:34:17,820 --> 00:34:19,180
I'M GOING TO GIVE IT
TO HIM, MS. CARMICHAEL.
903
00:34:20,260 --> 00:34:21,620
YOU'RE THE ONES
PUSHING THE ENVELOPE.
904
00:34:22,980 --> 00:34:24,100
ANSWER THE QUESTION,
DETECTIVE.
905
00:34:26,220 --> 00:34:27,160
I HAD TWO DAUGHTERS--
906
00:34:27,500 --> 00:34:28,400
ONE OF THEM
WAS MURDERED.
907
00:34:29,340 --> 00:34:30,960
BECAUSE SHE TURNED STATE'S
EVIDENCE
908
00:34:31,180 --> 00:34:33,098
IN A DRUG CASE?
909
00:34:33,820 --> 00:34:35,760
SHE WAS GOING TO TESTIFY
AGAINST A DEALER.
910
00:34:36,500 --> 00:34:38,419
SO, SHE WAS SELLING DRUGS
HERSELF?
911
00:34:38,460 --> 00:34:40,170
OBJECTION.
912
00:34:40,212 --> 00:34:42,256
OVERRULED.
913
00:34:44,100 --> 00:34:46,102
YES, SHE WAS SELLING DRUGS.
914
00:34:46,260 --> 00:34:47,160
AND AS HER FATHER
915
00:34:47,540 --> 00:34:48,820
UNDER MR. McCOY'S THEORY
916
00:34:49,620 --> 00:34:51,280
SHOULDN'T YOU BE HELD
CRIMINALLY RESPONSIBLE
917
00:34:51,620 --> 00:34:52,580
FOR HER DRUG DEALING?
918
00:34:57,835 --> 00:35:00,629
CRIMINALLY RESPONSIBLE?
919
00:35:00,713 --> 00:35:01,755
NO.
920
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,100
BUT I DIDN'T GIVE HER THE PILLS
921
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:05,740
AND TEACH HER
HOW TO THE SELL THEM.
922
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:09,740
NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
923
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,400
BESIDE THE LOCKER INCIDENT
924
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,400
WHAT OTHER THINGS
DID JON DO TO YOU?
925
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:22,340
LOCKED ME IN THE BATHROOM.
926
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,245
WHAT ELSE, LEO?
927
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:25,640
HE PUT A KNIFE
AGAINST MY NECK
928
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:27,640
AND TRIED TO GET ME
IN HIS BASEMENT.
929
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,320
HE CALLED ME NAMES.
930
00:35:30,362 --> 00:35:31,655
LIKE WHAT?
931
00:35:33,720 --> 00:35:35,805
DO I HAVE TO SAY?
932
00:35:35,847 --> 00:35:37,807
IT'S OKAY.
933
00:35:39,976 --> 00:35:41,561
FAGGOT.
934
00:35:41,603 --> 00:35:42,770
HOMO-BOY.
935
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,711
DID YOU EVER ASK HIM TO STOP?
936
00:35:45,753 --> 00:35:46,720
YEAH.
937
00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:47,680
HE JUST LAUGHED AT ME.
938
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,760
I TOLD HIM MY FATHER
WAS GOING TO CALL HIS DAD.
939
00:35:50,802 --> 00:35:53,680
HE SAID, "GO AHEAD,
BIG DEAL."
940
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:55,920
THANK YOU, LEO.
941
00:36:00,950 --> 00:36:03,390
DOES YOUR FATHER LET YOU PLAY
WITH VIDEO GAMES AT HOME?
942
00:36:03,390 --> 00:36:04,230
YES.
943
00:36:04,230 --> 00:36:05,315
LIKE WHAT, LEO?
944
00:36:05,550 --> 00:36:07,469
WELL, I HAVE
DEATH MATCH
945
00:36:07,630 --> 00:36:08,690
AND CYBER MAFIA.
946
00:36:08,732 --> 00:36:09,733
DID HE EVER BUY YOU
947
00:36:09,750 --> 00:36:11,711
A TOY GUN OR A KNIFE?
948
00:36:12,030 --> 00:36:13,490
A SWISS ARMY KNIFE.
949
00:36:13,532 --> 00:36:14,908
MMM.
950
00:36:15,230 --> 00:36:17,691
DID YOU EVER DO ANYTHING BAD?
951
00:36:18,750 --> 00:36:19,670
I DON'T BELIEVE IT.
952
00:36:19,670 --> 00:36:20,230
NOT ONE THING?
953
00:36:20,230 --> 00:36:24,318
WELL, I... I BROKE MY SISTER'S
GLASS ANIMAL COLLECTION.
954
00:36:24,359 --> 00:36:25,444
YOU KNOW THE STORY
955
00:36:26,910 --> 00:36:28,787
OF GEORGE WASHINGTON
AND THE CHERRY TREE, RIGHT?
956
00:36:28,829 --> 00:36:29,710
YES.
957
00:36:29,710 --> 00:36:30,810
WHEN HE DID SOMETHING WRONG
958
00:36:31,110 --> 00:36:33,910
HE TOOK RESPONSIBILITY
FOR IT, RIGHT?
959
00:36:33,910 --> 00:36:34,970
THAT'S WHAT
THE STORY'S ABOUT.
960
00:36:35,230 --> 00:36:36,730
AND WHEN YOU BROKE
YOUR SISTER'S THINGS
961
00:36:37,030 --> 00:36:38,907
YOU TOOK
RESPONSIBILITY, RIGHT?
962
00:36:38,948 --> 00:36:39,908
RIGHT.
963
00:36:39,990 --> 00:36:42,075
YOU DIDN'T SAY IT WAS
YOUR FATHER'S FAULT?
964
00:36:42,117 --> 00:36:44,119
NO.
965
00:36:46,470 --> 00:36:49,050
THE TRUTH SO SIMPLE,
EVEN A CHILD CAN GRASP IT.
966
00:36:49,870 --> 00:36:50,710
THANK YOU, LEO.
967
00:37:01,850 --> 00:37:03,810
I'M A DELIVERY DISPATCHER
FOR BLOOMINGDALE'S.
968
00:37:05,290 --> 00:37:06,510
MY WIFE SANDRA MANAGES
969
00:37:06,770 --> 00:37:08,470
THE PRODUCE DEPARTMENT
IN A SUPERMARKET.
970
00:37:08,970 --> 00:37:09,810
AND WHAT KIND OF HOURS
971
00:37:09,970 --> 00:37:11,012
DO YOU AND YOUR
WIFE WORK?
972
00:37:11,810 --> 00:37:12,830
I WORK A LOT
OF OVERTIME.
973
00:37:13,690 --> 00:37:16,170
SANDRA WORKS REGULAR SHIFT,
BUT SOMETIMES IT'S NIGHTS.
974
00:37:16,170 --> 00:37:17,010
DID YOU RECEIVE
975
00:37:17,010 --> 00:37:18,929
ANY COMPLAINTS
ABOUT JON FROM SCHOOL?
976
00:37:19,730 --> 00:37:21,610
JUST A CALL FROM THAT TEACHER
THAT TIME.
977
00:37:22,330 --> 00:37:25,333
AH, WELL, SHE TESTIFIED
THAT YOU HUNG UP ON HER.
978
00:37:25,730 --> 00:37:28,570
LOOK, MAYBE I WAS
A LITTLE THICK.
979
00:37:28,570 --> 00:37:29,410
SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT
980
00:37:29,410 --> 00:37:30,970
INTERNET THIS,
INTERNET THAT...
981
00:37:32,050 --> 00:37:33,350
I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT IT.
982
00:37:34,730 --> 00:37:35,930
WELL, DO YOU KNOW ABOUT
983
00:37:35,930 --> 00:37:38,057
THE VIDEO GAMES
YOUR SON PLAYS?
984
00:37:38,370 --> 00:37:39,230
I KNOW THEY'RE VIOLENT.
985
00:37:40,530 --> 00:37:41,370
WHEN WE WERE A KID
986
00:37:41,370 --> 00:37:43,390
WE USED TO PLAY COMBAT
AND BLOW UP THE NAZIS.
987
00:37:44,530 --> 00:37:46,790
THE WAY I SEE IT,
KIDS ARE THE SAME
988
00:37:46,930 --> 00:37:48,330
JUST THE TECHNOLOGY'S DIFFERENT.
989
00:37:49,530 --> 00:37:52,250
HOW DID JON GET INVOLVED IN MARTIAL ARTS?
990
00:37:52,250 --> 00:37:54,250
I TOOK HIM TO KARATE LESSONS
WHEN HE WAS LITTLE.
991
00:37:54,970 --> 00:37:56,930
AND IS THAT WHY
HE HAD THESE WEAPONS?
992
00:37:56,972 --> 00:37:57,870
Mr. Telford:
UH, NO.
993
00:37:57,870 --> 00:37:58,810
HE QUIT THE LESSONS.
994
00:37:59,670 --> 00:38:01,070
BUT HE WAS GETTING
PICKED ON AT SCHOOL
995
00:38:01,190 --> 00:38:02,350
BY SOME OF THE FOOTBALL PLAYERS
996
00:38:02,590 --> 00:38:04,730
SO I THOUGHT THIS MIGHT
HELP HIM WITH HIS CONFIDENCE.
997
00:38:04,771 --> 00:38:06,940
NOTHING FURTHER.
998
00:38:14,310 --> 00:38:16,854
HOW DID YOUR SON
GET THIS, MR. TELFORD?
999
00:38:16,910 --> 00:38:18,270
JON SHOWED ME
HOW TO ORDER
1000
00:38:18,270 --> 00:38:19,490
THE KARATE GEAR ON THE COMPUTER.
1001
00:38:20,510 --> 00:38:21,910
I GAVE HIM MY CREDIT CARD NUMBER
1002
00:38:22,470 --> 00:38:23,310
TO BUY THE STUFF.
1003
00:38:23,950 --> 00:38:26,030
THIS "KARATE GEAR,"
AS YOU CALL IT
1004
00:38:26,750 --> 00:38:27,850
YOU CAN'T BUY IT
1005
00:38:27,950 --> 00:38:29,535
IN NEW YORK STATE,
CAN YOU?
1006
00:38:29,630 --> 00:38:30,990
Mr. Telford: A BROTHER OF MINE LIVES IN
VIRGINIA.
1007
00:38:31,310 --> 00:38:32,530
WE HAD IT SHIPPED
DOWN THERE.
1008
00:38:33,030 --> 00:38:35,241
SO, YOU ENABLED YOUR SON TO BUY
1009
00:38:35,282 --> 00:38:36,283
ILLEGAL WEAPONS.
1010
00:38:36,430 --> 00:38:37,550
BOYS LIKE THAT STUFF.
1011
00:38:38,230 --> 00:38:39,230
DIDN'T YOU EVER
HAVE A SLINGSHOT
1012
00:38:39,470 --> 00:38:40,430
WHEN YOU WERE A KID?
1013
00:38:40,430 --> 00:38:41,510
MADE OUT OF A TREE BRANCH.
1014
00:38:42,630 --> 00:38:43,630
IT WASN'T CONTRABAND
1015
00:38:44,390 --> 00:38:45,830
FROM AN ADULTS-ONLY WEBSITE.
1016
00:38:45,990 --> 00:38:46,830
Mr. Telford:
IT TAUGHT HIM HOW
1017
00:38:46,830 --> 00:38:47,670
TO DEFEND HIMSELF.
1018
00:38:47,870 --> 00:38:49,050
WITHOUT ANY KIND OF
1019
00:38:49,230 --> 00:38:50,550
TRAINING OR SUPERVISION?
1020
00:38:50,990 --> 00:38:52,470
HE WAS PRACTICING ON HIS OWN.
1021
00:38:52,630 --> 00:38:54,150
ONLY HE WAS PRACTICING
TO BE A BULLY
1022
00:38:54,270 --> 00:38:55,313
WASN'T HE, MR. TELFORD?
1023
00:38:56,460 --> 00:38:57,380
WHEN HE WAS 13
1024
00:38:57,820 --> 00:38:59,600
SOME PUNK HELD A KNIFE
TO HIS THROAT
1025
00:38:59,740 --> 00:39:00,580
AND TOOK HIS MONEY.
1026
00:39:01,460 --> 00:39:02,400
HE CAME HOME CRYING.
1027
00:39:02,484 --> 00:39:05,278
SO, THIS IS YOUR
IDEA OF PARENTING?
1028
00:39:05,380 --> 00:39:08,175
TO SEND HIM OUT WITH THIS?
1029
00:39:08,216 --> 00:39:10,180
AND THIS? AND THIS?
1030
00:39:10,180 --> 00:39:12,180
LISTEN, IT'S A DIFFERENT WORLD
THAN WHEN YOU
1031
00:39:12,180 --> 00:39:13,020
AND I GREW UP.
1032
00:39:13,340 --> 00:39:14,800
A KID THROWS
A PUNCH NOW
1033
00:39:14,940 --> 00:39:16,260
ANOTHER KID PULLS OUT A GUN.
1034
00:39:16,860 --> 00:39:17,700
HOW ABOUT
TEACHING HIM
1035
00:39:17,700 --> 00:39:18,540
NOT TO FIGHT?
1036
00:39:18,660 --> 00:39:20,787
SO THEY COULD ROB
HIS MONEY AGAIN?
1037
00:39:20,860 --> 00:39:23,240
I WANTED HIM TO STAND UP
FOR HIMSELF.
1038
00:39:23,740 --> 00:39:24,580
TO BE A MAN.
1039
00:39:25,980 --> 00:39:28,200
THEY LAUGH AT YOU WHEN YOU SAY
THAT NOW, BUT YEAH.
1040
00:39:28,500 --> 00:39:29,709
WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT?
1041
00:39:29,900 --> 00:39:32,060
WAS HE BEING A MAN
WHEN HE TORTURED
1042
00:39:32,340 --> 00:39:33,633
LEO CLAYTON IN SCHOOL?
1043
00:39:34,060 --> 00:39:35,420
JON WOULDN'T DO THAT.
1044
00:39:35,420 --> 00:39:37,547
WHEN HE HELD A KNIFE
AGAINST HIS THROAT?
1045
00:39:38,300 --> 00:39:39,460
I DON'T KNOW THE STORY ON THAT.
1046
00:39:39,580 --> 00:39:40,800
YOU KNEW HE WAS
CARRYING A KNIFE.
1047
00:39:40,980 --> 00:39:43,180
I KNEW HE HAD ONE,
BUT HE KNEW NOT TO USE IT.
1048
00:39:43,300 --> 00:39:44,843
WELL, HE DID USE IT,
MR. TELFORD.
1049
00:39:45,180 --> 00:39:46,300
ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU TAUGHT HIM?
1050
00:39:46,300 --> 00:39:47,140
NO.
1051
00:39:47,140 --> 00:39:48,260
TO RELIEVE HIS FEELINGS
1052
00:39:48,460 --> 00:39:49,795
OF HELPLESSNESS WITH AGGRESSION?
1053
00:39:50,140 --> 00:39:51,380
THAT'S JUST MORE P.C. CRAP.
1054
00:39:51,580 --> 00:39:53,580
OR TO RETREAT
INTO HIS FANTASY WORLD
1055
00:39:53,580 --> 00:39:54,540
ON HIS COMPUTER?
1056
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:55,680
HE'S NOT THE ONLY KID
1057
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:56,640
PLAYING THESE THINGS.
1058
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,220
YOU STOOD THERE
AND WATCHED
1059
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,720
WHILE YOUR SON
TURNED INTO A KILLER.
1060
00:40:01,240 --> 00:40:02,784
DIDN'T YOU,
MR. TELFORD?
1061
00:40:02,825 --> 00:40:04,560
THAT'S RIDICULOUS.
1062
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,820
I WANTED MY KID
TO PROTECT HIMSELF.
1063
00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:08,100
YOU WERE PROUD
1064
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,046
WHEN HE DISHED IT OUT AT SCHOOL, WEREN'T
YOU?
1065
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:12,040
I WASN'T PROUD.
1066
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,669
YOU KNOW WHAT THOSE
FOOTBALL PLAYERS CALLED HIM?
1067
00:40:15,711 --> 00:40:16,800
FLUFF BOY AND...
1068
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:17,640
IS THAT WHAT
THIS IS ABOUT--
1069
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:19,840
YOU WERE ASHAMED?
1070
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:20,680
WHERE DO YOU GET OFF TELLING ME
HOW TO RAISE
1071
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:21,520
MY KID, HUH?
1072
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:22,605
YOU THINK
IT'S EASY?
1073
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:24,580
I LOVE MY BOYS.
1074
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,480
I DID THE BEST THAT I COULD.
1075
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:27,600
YOU DID NOT!
1076
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:29,500
SIT DOWN, MRS. TELFORD.
1077
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,840
IT'S NOT TRUE.
HE RUINED HIM.
1078
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:34,980
I WANT A MISTRIAL, JUDGE.
1079
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:37,880
LET'S STEP OUTSIDE.
1080
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,660
I'LL INSTRUCT THE JURY
TO IGNORE THE OUTBURST.
1081
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:48,380
GIVE ME A BREAK, JUDGE.
1082
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,960
HOW CAN MY CLIENTS GET
A FAIR TRIAL AFTER THAT?
1083
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,310
THE DEFENDANT BROUGHT
IT ON HIMSELF.
1084
00:40:52,510 --> 00:40:53,650
THE PEOPLE OPPOSE A MISTRIAL.
1085
00:40:54,590 --> 00:40:56,470
AND YOU'RE NOT GETTING ONE,
MR. GRANICK.
1086
00:40:56,470 --> 00:40:57,950
I'M NOT WASTING
TWO WEEKS' WORK.
1087
00:40:57,950 --> 00:40:58,790
JUDGE...
1088
00:40:58,790 --> 00:41:00,090
THAT MEANS
YOU HAVE A PROBLEM.
1089
00:41:02,030 --> 00:41:03,050
WE'LL RECESS TILL TOMORROW.
1090
00:41:11,550 --> 00:41:13,030
JON ADMITS THE MURDER
1091
00:41:13,030 --> 00:41:14,350
I'LL CONSIDER MAN ONE.
1092
00:41:14,590 --> 00:41:16,134
AND MY HUSBAND GETS OFF?
1093
00:41:16,390 --> 00:41:18,230
MAN TWO,
RECKLESS HOMICIDE.
1094
00:41:18,670 --> 00:41:19,630
I DIDN'T KILL THE KID.
1095
00:41:19,990 --> 00:41:21,030
YOU GOT JON;
YOU REALLY NEED
1096
00:41:21,110 --> 00:41:22,695
A POUND OF FLESH
FROM MR. TELFORD?
1097
00:41:23,110 --> 00:41:24,170
I'M NOT TAKING ANY DEAL.
1098
00:41:24,950 --> 00:41:25,790
WE'LL SEE YOU TOMORROW.
1099
00:41:26,070 --> 00:41:27,830
Mrs. Telford: WHAT IF I GIVE YOU EVIDENCE?
1100
00:41:27,830 --> 00:41:29,456
WILL YOU MAKE A DEAL WITH JON?
1101
00:41:31,830 --> 00:41:32,950
WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
1102
00:41:32,950 --> 00:41:34,370
WHAT I SHOULD'VE DONE ALL ALONG.
1103
00:41:35,070 --> 00:41:37,030
WHAT KIND OF EVIDENCE,
MRS. TELFORD?
1104
00:41:38,870 --> 00:41:39,770
ABOUT THE BLANKET.
1105
00:41:40,430 --> 00:41:41,330
SHUT UP, SANDRA.
1106
00:41:41,670 --> 00:41:42,587
PLEASE, MRS. TELFORD...
1107
00:41:42,870 --> 00:41:43,710
AND I'LL TESTIFY
1108
00:41:43,790 --> 00:41:44,770
AGAINST MY HUSBAND.
1109
00:41:44,812 --> 00:41:46,480
ABOUT WHAT?
1110
00:41:46,950 --> 00:41:49,010
ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE DONE
TO US ALL THESE YEARS.
1111
00:41:50,770 --> 00:41:52,390
THE WEAPONS,
THE FIGHTING.
1112
00:41:54,890 --> 00:41:56,410
I'VE WATCHED IT LONG ENOUGH.
1113
00:41:59,170 --> 00:42:00,530
YOU WANT ME TO GO TO JAIL?
1114
00:42:00,530 --> 00:42:01,948
I SEE WHAT YOU DID TO JON.
1115
00:42:04,290 --> 00:42:05,830
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT
TO JIMMY.
1116
00:42:10,810 --> 00:42:13,271
TELL MR. McCOY
WHAT HAPPENED, JON.
1117
00:42:13,313 --> 00:42:15,440
NO, MOM.
1118
00:42:15,730 --> 00:42:17,370
THAT'S RIGHT, SON.
DON'T SAY A WORD.
1119
00:42:19,164 --> 00:42:20,248
TELL HIM...
1120
00:42:20,530 --> 00:42:22,570
OR I'LL TELL HIM
ABOUT OUR BLANKET.
1121
00:42:27,250 --> 00:42:28,090
DAMN YOU, SANDRA.
1122
00:42:31,210 --> 00:42:35,089
IT'S OVER, JON.
1123
00:42:38,259 --> 00:42:40,050
PLEASE...
1124
00:42:40,050 --> 00:42:41,110
SAY WHAT YOU DID.
1125
00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:55,800
I MADE CHRIS COME
INTO OUR APARTMENT.
1126
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,240
I JUST WAS GOING TO TAKE HIS CANDY MONEY,
I SWEAR.
1127
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,380
BUT HE PUNCHED ME
IN THE STOMACH... HARD AND...
1128
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,280
THE KAMA WAS
ON THE WALL AND...
1129
00:43:16,240 --> 00:43:18,360
I GRABBED IT
AND I SWUNG IT AT HIM.
1130
00:43:27,703 --> 00:43:30,622
MAN ONE, TEN TO 20.
1131
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,205
HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME?
1132
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:47,420
I DIDN'T KILL THAT KID.
1133
00:43:47,462 --> 00:43:49,547
MAN TWO, TWO TO SIX--
1134
00:43:52,500 --> 00:43:54,200
OR I'LL PUT YOUR
WIFE ON THE STAND.
1135
00:43:56,900 --> 00:43:59,528
WOULD YOU RATHER RISK
A MURDER CONVICTION?
1136
00:43:59,580 --> 00:44:00,420
TAKE IT, DAD.
1137
00:44:03,660 --> 00:44:05,078
NOW, YOU'RE TELLING ME
WHAT TO DO?
1138
00:44:05,260 --> 00:44:06,740
I'LL DO WHAT I SAID, ROBERT.
1139
00:44:09,140 --> 00:44:10,020
IT'S A FAIR OFFER.
1140
00:44:15,700 --> 00:44:17,160
NOW OR NEVER, MR. TELFORD.
1141
00:44:25,502 --> 00:44:27,837
FINE.
1142
00:44:39,540 --> 00:44:40,680
SANDRA TELFORD
HAD HER HUSBAND
1143
00:44:40,900 --> 00:44:42,520
SERVED WITH DIVORCE
PAPERS AT RIKERS.
1144
00:44:43,340 --> 00:44:45,470
SACRIFICED HER MARRIAGE
TO SAVE HER SONS.
1145
00:44:46,130 --> 00:44:47,370
IF SHE SPOKE UP SOONER
1146
00:44:47,370 --> 00:44:48,730
SHE MIGHT HAVE SAVED
CHRIS SKINNER.
1147
00:44:49,930 --> 00:44:51,640
WANT TO PUT HER
IN JAIL, TOO?
1148
00:44:51,681 --> 00:44:53,808
DON'T TEMPT ME.
1149
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:23,630
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1151
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