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I didn't do nothing. 13 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:46,257 Shooter's Spencer Johnson. 14 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,200 He interrupted his wife and her boyfriend going at it in his car. 15 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:50,560 How many rounds? Two. 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:52,080 One clipped the boyfriend's shoulder. 17 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:53,480 The other took out the trash can. 18 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:54,930 How's the boyfriend? 19 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,860 Hudson Terrace Presbyterian patched him up, sent him home. 20 00:00:57,902 --> 00:00:59,362 With a shoulder wound? 21 00:00:59,445 --> 00:01:00,780 No insurance. 22 00:01:00,890 --> 00:01:02,600 We took Johnson to the 38. 23 00:01:02,850 --> 00:01:04,690 They're trolling for his gun right now. 24 00:01:04,690 --> 00:01:05,941 What are the odds they'll find it? 25 00:01:06,570 --> 00:01:09,650 Well, the divers say there's a shallow shelf that drops off. 26 00:01:09,650 --> 00:01:12,330 Runs 20 feet out. Pretty deep after that. 27 00:01:13,250 --> 00:01:15,961 So we get the gun if Johnson throws like a girl? 28 00:01:16,370 --> 00:01:18,810 Hey! You gotta see what's down here! 29 00:01:33,450 --> 00:01:34,970 It was really wedged down there. 30 00:01:35,250 --> 00:01:38,211 VW Bus, circa '68. 31 00:01:39,050 --> 00:01:40,350 Maybe we should try to start it. 32 00:01:56,992 --> 00:01:59,370 The keys are still in here. 33 00:02:06,210 --> 00:02:07,150 So is the driver. 34 00:02:08,930 --> 00:02:10,530 Too much to drink. Took a wrong turn. 35 00:02:11,650 --> 00:02:15,571 Well, not unless he was drinking through the bullet hole in his skull. 36 00:03:07,460 --> 00:03:08,540 How's your shooter? 37 00:03:08,540 --> 00:03:11,120 He confessed so fast I thought I'd have him do the paperwork. 38 00:03:11,540 --> 00:03:12,660 The D.A.s have it now. 39 00:03:12,660 --> 00:03:14,580 And you have Mr. Bones in the VW. 40 00:03:14,980 --> 00:03:16,315 Talk to Missing Persons? 41 00:03:16,660 --> 00:03:18,940 Files after '74 are on the system. 42 00:03:19,140 --> 00:03:20,540 Before that, it's a manual search. 43 00:03:20,780 --> 00:03:23,380 Well, grab a couple of desk jockeys and get 'em started. 44 00:03:23,380 --> 00:03:24,923 Any idea where the bus went in? 45 00:03:25,260 --> 00:03:27,300 Coast Guard thinks it was somewhere north of the GW. 46 00:03:28,380 --> 00:03:29,900 Talk about pinpoint accuracy. 47 00:03:30,380 --> 00:03:32,800 Jersey or Manhattan side? They don't know. 48 00:03:33,020 --> 00:03:34,688 Could have driven off near Spuyten Duyvil. 49 00:03:34,700 --> 00:03:35,940 Or anywhere else up there. 50 00:03:36,060 --> 00:03:37,700 How long before they sort it out? 51 00:03:37,700 --> 00:03:38,720 We told 'em it's a priority. 52 00:03:39,060 --> 00:03:42,146 Well, while you're waiting, talk to the M.E. 53 00:03:43,460 --> 00:03:45,700 Good bone density. No growth plates. 54 00:03:45,940 --> 00:03:48,380 So, between 19 and 25 years old. 55 00:03:48,380 --> 00:03:50,430 His or hers? Male. About six feet. 56 00:03:50,471 --> 00:03:52,432 Race? Human. 57 00:03:52,540 --> 00:03:54,960 So we've got a six-foot-tall 20-year-old male. 58 00:03:55,260 --> 00:03:56,100 That narrows it down. 59 00:03:56,580 --> 00:03:58,900 There's a fractured fibula, maybe a skiing accident. 60 00:03:59,380 --> 00:04:01,580 And what about the shooting accident? 61 00:04:01,580 --> 00:04:04,480 A bullet traversed the mid-brain and lodged in the occipital bone. 62 00:04:04,521 --> 00:04:05,522 Do we have a slug? 63 00:04:05,606 --> 00:04:08,859 No. Fragments. Here and here. 64 00:04:09,620 --> 00:04:11,000 The rest of the bullet washed away. 65 00:04:12,300 --> 00:04:14,260 They called this model der Babymaker. 66 00:04:14,260 --> 00:04:16,100 I figure it's been under close to 30 years. 67 00:04:16,660 --> 00:04:18,040 Take you back? Too far back. 68 00:04:18,220 --> 00:04:19,500 We found a slug on the floor. 69 00:04:22,700 --> 00:04:24,880 Looks like a .38. Roach clip. 70 00:04:25,220 --> 00:04:27,340 Yeah. Standard issue with every VW Bus. 71 00:04:28,180 --> 00:04:30,180 I got one word for you, Rey, plastics. 72 00:04:30,860 --> 00:04:33,380 Thirty years in the river, it's still intact. 73 00:04:33,380 --> 00:04:36,280 I don't suppose you found a license and registration in the glove compartment? 74 00:04:36,660 --> 00:04:37,500 No such luck. 75 00:04:37,940 --> 00:04:40,680 And you can forget about a DMV match on the license plate. 76 00:04:41,220 --> 00:04:43,420 They expunge the records when plates change. 77 00:04:43,900 --> 00:04:45,660 This style was retired in 1970. 78 00:04:45,702 --> 00:04:46,870 Guess it's gonna be the hard way. 79 00:04:47,500 --> 00:04:48,710 You got a VIN number? 80 00:04:52,590 --> 00:04:56,190 I owned that bus 30 years ago. How'd you find me? 81 00:04:56,190 --> 00:05:00,277 German record keeping. Any idea whose bones were in the bus? 82 00:05:00,430 --> 00:05:01,270 No. 83 00:05:01,270 --> 00:05:05,232 I swapped it in '68 for a brand-new Mercedes 280SE. 84 00:05:05,316 --> 00:05:06,567 Even trade. 85 00:05:06,950 --> 00:05:09,828 You swapped a VW Bus for a 280? 86 00:05:09,870 --> 00:05:11,350 Aren't you the lucky son-of-a-gun. 87 00:05:11,590 --> 00:05:12,799 Who played Santa Claus? 88 00:05:13,070 --> 00:05:16,030 Diana Wells. Sophomore at Kensington. 89 00:05:16,390 --> 00:05:18,476 And a friend of the oppressed masses, 90 00:05:19,550 --> 00:05:20,510 a real stone fox. 91 00:05:20,510 --> 00:05:22,094 You think it was her in the van? 92 00:05:23,430 --> 00:05:26,290 Maybe her other boyfriend. Other than you, that is. 93 00:05:26,870 --> 00:05:28,250 Diana had a lot of boyfriends. 94 00:05:28,990 --> 00:05:30,630 She give all of them Mercedes? 95 00:05:30,630 --> 00:05:33,341 No. She had a soft spot for me. 96 00:05:33,390 --> 00:05:36,230 I sat up one night while she read me Che Guevara's diary. 97 00:05:36,950 --> 00:05:38,550 And all you got was the car? 98 00:05:38,550 --> 00:05:40,650 Diana's Park Avenue parents gave it to her. 99 00:05:40,790 --> 00:05:43,650 She wanted to blow their minds when she pulled up in the Bus. 100 00:05:44,270 --> 00:05:45,730 I don't suppose you two kept in touch. 101 00:05:46,670 --> 00:05:48,530 Last I heard she was gonna live on a commune. 102 00:05:49,110 --> 00:05:50,030 When was that? 103 00:05:50,030 --> 00:05:51,615 Summer of '68. 104 00:05:51,750 --> 00:05:53,670 She was gonna connect with the land, 105 00:05:53,670 --> 00:05:55,730 you know, grow her own granola. 106 00:05:57,270 --> 00:05:58,390 I stayed there for three months. 107 00:05:58,710 --> 00:06:00,070 The goats smelled better than the people. 108 00:06:00,430 --> 00:06:01,830 I hope you don't mind talking on the run. 109 00:06:01,910 --> 00:06:04,450 I'm having a fundraiser for Mumia Abu-Jamal's appeal. 110 00:06:04,750 --> 00:06:06,794 What, the cop killer in Philly? 111 00:06:07,030 --> 00:06:08,330 The journalist in Philly, yes. 112 00:06:08,630 --> 00:06:09,710 The voice of the voiceless. 113 00:06:10,070 --> 00:06:11,370 He was framed. He didn't do it. 114 00:06:11,830 --> 00:06:15,310 Yeah, so you ever own a VW Bus? 115 00:06:15,310 --> 00:06:16,728 A million years ago. Why? 116 00:06:16,870 --> 00:06:18,350 We found it along with a dead guy. 117 00:06:18,392 --> 00:06:19,392 My bus? 118 00:06:20,630 --> 00:06:22,470 I suppose you're gonna say you didn't do it. 119 00:06:24,150 --> 00:06:27,112 I sold that bus in the fall of '68 for $500. 120 00:06:27,153 --> 00:06:28,750 To who? 121 00:06:28,750 --> 00:06:29,990 My first Jewish lover. 122 00:06:30,710 --> 00:06:31,550 I think his name was David. 123 00:06:31,550 --> 00:06:32,390 His name was David. 124 00:06:36,070 --> 00:06:37,410 He was a Kensington student, too. 125 00:06:37,710 --> 00:06:38,752 About six feet? 126 00:06:39,230 --> 00:06:41,930 Yeah. Thick brown hair and this great crooked smile. 127 00:06:42,230 --> 00:06:43,815 Did he ski? 128 00:06:44,941 --> 00:06:45,942 Last name? 129 00:06:46,070 --> 00:06:47,210 I think it started with a B. 130 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:50,780 A "B..." David... 131 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,849 Well, something Jewish. 132 00:06:57,810 --> 00:06:59,145 David Bellwith. 133 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:01,920 Bailard. Is that Jewish? 134 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:03,422 What's his major? 135 00:07:03,464 --> 00:07:04,506 Phys. Ed. 136 00:07:04,548 --> 00:07:05,966 Definitely not. 137 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,140 How about David Brillstein? Accounting major. 138 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,620 A Jewish accountant? That's a double whammy. 139 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:15,040 Well, it's not him. 140 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:16,940 He's on the alumni list, still contributes. 141 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,480 Well, that'd be too much of an ethnic experience 142 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:21,740 for our Miss Wells, anyway. 143 00:07:21,782 --> 00:07:24,576 David Bernstein. 144 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,640 Well, he's not on the alumni list, so he didn't graduate. 145 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,160 Neither did a lot of people back then. 146 00:07:32,913 --> 00:07:36,500 Well, there's no record of him after the fall semester, 1968. 147 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,100 You found his bus? 148 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:45,180 We found a bus. 149 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,088 What makes you think it was David's? 150 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,823 When did he come up missing? 151 00:07:50,864 --> 00:07:52,280 October, '68. 152 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:53,531 He ever break his leg? 153 00:07:54,199 --> 00:07:55,867 Yeah, skiing... 154 00:07:59,162 --> 00:08:00,371 Why? 155 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,140 We found some remains in the bus, could be your brother. 156 00:08:08,394 --> 00:08:09,813 Oh, my God. 157 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,040 How did he die? 158 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,407 Well, if it is your brother, he was shot. 159 00:08:17,825 --> 00:08:20,077 David? Shot? 160 00:08:21,287 --> 00:08:22,200 Why? 161 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:23,480 That's what we're trying to figure out. 162 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,866 Do you know if he was in any kind of trouble? 163 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:28,440 I was 11. 164 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,240 You know, David had cool friends and long hair. 165 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,320 He'd give me a nickel if I cleaned my plate. 166 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,000 Nickel was a lot of money back then. 167 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,669 Not much to go around, huh? 168 00:08:39,710 --> 00:08:41,254 No. 169 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,470 My mother was on her own. My father was dead. 170 00:08:45,170 --> 00:08:47,050 Then how'd he afford Kensington? 171 00:08:47,050 --> 00:08:48,790 He got a job on a cod boat 172 00:08:49,490 --> 00:08:51,010 and he worked in a lumber mill. 173 00:08:52,250 --> 00:08:54,450 Out of the blue, he got this scholarship to Kensington. 174 00:08:56,290 --> 00:09:00,210 You know, he got involved in all the '60s stuff, 175 00:09:00,210 --> 00:09:01,370 the protests, you know. 176 00:09:04,090 --> 00:09:05,210 Here's David with his bus. 177 00:09:08,330 --> 00:09:09,510 For years after he disappeared, 178 00:09:09,810 --> 00:09:12,790 I'd be in the car with my mom and a VW Bus would go by 179 00:09:13,490 --> 00:09:16,410 and she'd look and then she'd cry. 180 00:09:18,850 --> 00:09:20,810 Did your mom report him missing? 181 00:09:20,894 --> 00:09:21,970 Yeah. 182 00:09:21,970 --> 00:09:25,090 The police investigated but nothing ever came of it. 183 00:09:28,850 --> 00:09:30,290 I'm glad she's not around for this. 184 00:09:31,708 --> 00:09:33,043 Who? Bernstein. 185 00:09:34,210 --> 00:09:36,390 David Bernstein. Kensington student. 186 00:09:36,570 --> 00:09:38,360 Disappeared October, 1968. 187 00:09:38,810 --> 00:09:41,330 The clerk said you inherited his file a couple of years ago. 188 00:09:41,372 --> 00:09:42,373 Really? 189 00:09:42,456 --> 00:09:43,624 Yeah, really. 190 00:09:55,530 --> 00:09:57,090 Bernstein. Guess I did. 191 00:09:58,410 --> 00:09:59,494 This a homicide? 192 00:09:59,530 --> 00:10:00,370 Looks that way. 193 00:10:00,410 --> 00:10:01,630 Good. It's all yours. 194 00:10:04,930 --> 00:10:06,470 It's just dental records and an interview list. 195 00:10:06,610 --> 00:10:07,528 Where's the rest of the file? 196 00:10:07,890 --> 00:10:10,893 That's all I have. The rest, the rats ate. 197 00:10:10,970 --> 00:10:15,308 Hey, look at this. Kenneth Stratton was interviewed about Bernstein. 198 00:10:15,350 --> 00:10:16,310 Yeah. So? 199 00:10:16,352 --> 00:10:17,530 Oh, yeah. It's before your time. 200 00:10:17,530 --> 00:10:18,990 Stratton led the student takeover 201 00:10:19,250 --> 00:10:21,836 of the Kensington administration building in '68. 202 00:10:22,050 --> 00:10:24,930 The kid sitting in the dean's chair, smoking his cigars? 203 00:10:24,930 --> 00:10:28,309 Kenneth Stratton. Wonder if he still likes White Owls? 204 00:10:30,930 --> 00:10:32,990 I had a headache for a week from smoking those things. 205 00:10:33,570 --> 00:10:35,970 I see that photo of me and I think, "Man, what an ass." 206 00:10:36,850 --> 00:10:37,809 So what's this about? 207 00:10:37,930 --> 00:10:40,307 David Bernstein. You remember him? 208 00:10:40,460 --> 00:10:43,212 Sure, I remember David. Great guy. 209 00:10:44,580 --> 00:10:46,415 He's dead, isn't he? 210 00:10:46,420 --> 00:10:48,300 We found him in his van in the Hudson River. 211 00:10:48,300 --> 00:10:49,385 What happened? 212 00:10:49,860 --> 00:10:50,700 He was shot. 213 00:10:51,340 --> 00:10:54,343 The police interviewed you when he was reported missing? 214 00:10:54,380 --> 00:10:56,060 Yeah. Yeah. We were friends, 215 00:10:56,060 --> 00:10:56,940 you know, brothers-in-arms. 216 00:10:57,060 --> 00:10:58,260 Striking blows against the empire. 217 00:10:58,302 --> 00:10:59,262 With guns? 218 00:10:59,580 --> 00:11:01,660 No, no, no, no. Strictly non-violent. 219 00:11:01,660 --> 00:11:02,700 This was before the Weathermen. 220 00:11:03,900 --> 00:11:06,319 Say, listen, that kid there is about this close 221 00:11:06,620 --> 00:11:08,420 from dropping out of school and God knows what else. 222 00:11:08,620 --> 00:11:10,205 Can we wrap this up? 223 00:11:10,205 --> 00:11:14,042 So you have no idea how David wound up in the river with a hole in his head? 224 00:11:15,543 --> 00:11:16,628 No. 225 00:11:17,170 --> 00:11:18,130 But? 226 00:11:18,460 --> 00:11:20,503 Well, I'll tell you what I told Missing Persons. 227 00:11:20,620 --> 00:11:22,900 The last time I saw David was the day before the Occupation. 228 00:11:23,780 --> 00:11:25,600 A couple of cops in riot gear were dragging him away 229 00:11:25,700 --> 00:11:26,860 and beating the crap out of him. 230 00:11:37,380 --> 00:11:38,980 October 20th, 1968. 231 00:11:39,580 --> 00:11:42,220 It's the night before the radicals took over the administration building. 232 00:11:42,940 --> 00:11:45,400 Please tell me he walked out of arraignment alive. 233 00:11:45,441 --> 00:11:46,567 Posted bond at 2:00 a.m. 234 00:11:47,700 --> 00:11:49,820 Well, at least we know the cops didn't finish him off. 235 00:11:49,820 --> 00:11:51,279 Well, who bailed him out? 236 00:11:51,863 --> 00:11:53,365 Pete Hammermesh. 237 00:11:54,060 --> 00:11:54,900 Call the brother. 238 00:11:55,100 --> 00:11:57,340 Let him know the morgue made a positive ID. 239 00:11:57,340 --> 00:11:59,360 Then find Hammermesh. See what he can add. 240 00:12:01,500 --> 00:12:04,760 David had $800 stashed in a tin can under his bed. 241 00:12:04,802 --> 00:12:07,138 After he called, I took $200, 242 00:12:07,700 --> 00:12:08,800 went down and bailed him out. 243 00:12:08,940 --> 00:12:10,140 You didn't go to the protest? 244 00:12:10,140 --> 00:12:13,185 Oh, my dad was working two jobs to send me to Kensington. 245 00:12:13,500 --> 00:12:14,340 I was studying. 246 00:12:16,260 --> 00:12:18,380 So you spend much time with David back then? 247 00:12:18,380 --> 00:12:21,925 Oh, we were roommates. Politics aside, we got along. 248 00:12:21,940 --> 00:12:25,986 The most radical thing I ever did was paint my parents' lawn jockey white. 249 00:12:26,028 --> 00:12:27,740 Can you hand me that rag? 250 00:12:27,740 --> 00:12:29,366 Tryin' to make this tub sea-worthy? 251 00:12:29,500 --> 00:12:30,340 You got it. 252 00:12:30,740 --> 00:12:32,575 So what kind of things was David into? 253 00:12:33,020 --> 00:12:36,070 Hey, you know that Alumni War Memorial in the Kensington Quad? 254 00:12:36,070 --> 00:12:36,910 Yeah, sure. 255 00:12:36,910 --> 00:12:38,150 David drenched it in blood. 256 00:12:39,193 --> 00:12:40,193 Whose blood? 257 00:12:40,430 --> 00:12:41,450 He said it was pig's blood. 258 00:12:42,950 --> 00:12:44,743 And, no, I don't know where he got it. 259 00:12:44,750 --> 00:12:47,002 So what happened after you posted bail for David? 260 00:12:47,110 --> 00:12:48,230 We went back to our room. 261 00:12:48,430 --> 00:12:50,850 He changed, packed a bag, went to his girlfriend's. 262 00:12:51,990 --> 00:12:55,250 You know, when he left, my nose was buried in the books. 263 00:12:55,550 --> 00:12:56,630 I don't think I said goodbye. 264 00:12:57,150 --> 00:13:00,028 You remember the name of this girlfriend? 265 00:13:00,070 --> 00:13:01,310 Tracey Howard. 266 00:13:01,310 --> 00:13:02,930 There's no Tracey Howard on the interview list. 267 00:13:03,190 --> 00:13:06,090 I didn't tell the cops about Tracey back then. 268 00:13:07,430 --> 00:13:09,950 What, if I'd known someone had killed him, I would have told them. 269 00:13:09,950 --> 00:13:11,370 I thought he'd surface eventually. 270 00:13:12,110 --> 00:13:14,445 So why didn't you tell the detectives about this girlfriend? 271 00:13:14,670 --> 00:13:18,010 Because if David's mom found out about Tracey, she'd have killed him. 272 00:13:19,230 --> 00:13:21,330 His mom wanted him to find a nice Jewish girl. 273 00:13:22,190 --> 00:13:23,070 I didn't want to convert. 274 00:13:23,350 --> 00:13:26,270 So that night after David was bailed out? 275 00:13:26,790 --> 00:13:29,570 We went to bed. Next morning he slept in. 276 00:13:29,670 --> 00:13:30,510 I went to class. 277 00:13:30,750 --> 00:13:32,350 Was that the last time you saw him? 278 00:13:32,350 --> 00:13:34,310 No. He was waiting for me back at my room. 279 00:13:34,510 --> 00:13:35,350 To say goodbye. 280 00:13:35,350 --> 00:13:36,770 He told me he was going to Canada. 281 00:13:37,150 --> 00:13:38,710 What for? He had a student deferment. 282 00:13:39,710 --> 00:13:42,570 Getting arrested and beaten by the cops was too much for him. 283 00:13:42,750 --> 00:13:45,910 And the fact you never heard from him again didn't bother you? 284 00:13:45,910 --> 00:13:48,130 I always figured he found a nice Jewish girl. 285 00:13:49,470 --> 00:13:50,310 I guess I was wrong. 286 00:13:50,630 --> 00:13:53,549 When he left you, did he head straight for his bus? 287 00:13:53,633 --> 00:13:57,270 We said goodbye outside the dorm. Late, around 11:00. 288 00:13:57,270 --> 00:13:58,390 I watched him cross the street 289 00:13:58,590 --> 00:14:00,110 to the parking building around the corner. 290 00:14:00,590 --> 00:14:02,230 He kept his bus in student parking. 291 00:14:03,270 --> 00:14:07,390 Um, look, I have a lecture. Do you need me much longer? 292 00:14:07,390 --> 00:14:10,226 Do you know if the parking buildings had security back then? 293 00:14:10,270 --> 00:14:12,564 Yeah, 24 hours a day. That it? 294 00:14:13,107 --> 00:14:14,608 Thanks. 295 00:14:18,590 --> 00:14:23,950 Yeah, I was on duty in the parking building that night. 296 00:14:23,950 --> 00:14:25,390 And the next and the next. 297 00:14:25,590 --> 00:14:28,530 For 28 years, a security guard. 298 00:14:30,070 --> 00:14:33,020 Earned my pension. Got myself a fishing boat. 299 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:35,922 You still go after bluefish, Mr. Grady? 300 00:14:35,964 --> 00:14:39,217 Yeah, and flounder. With my grandson now. 301 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,721 You recall a VW Bus in the parking lot? 302 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,640 Yellow one with the flowers on it or the psychedelic one? 303 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:49,560 Or the one that was painted... 304 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,212 A blue and white one with a red bumper sticker on the front fender. 305 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,160 The word "Power," black fist. 306 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,455 It belonged to a student named David Bernstein? 307 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:04,440 Yeah, I know it was a long time ago, 308 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,901 but do you recall anything unusual that might've happened that night? 309 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:12,120 Well, aside from the punks that took over the administration building? No. 310 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,164 Anybody else on duty with you? 311 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:16,440 No. Just me. 312 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,616 Any of the protests spill over in your direction? 313 00:15:20,825 --> 00:15:21,720 No. 314 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,682 You never saw this kid, huh? 315 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:27,040 Oh, all I know about that night 316 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:28,920 was what I saw on the news the next day. 317 00:15:32,530 --> 00:15:33,950 This reporter named Jones... 318 00:15:34,290 --> 00:15:36,490 Jones? Great guy. How's he doing? 319 00:15:36,490 --> 00:15:37,783 Oh, he sends his love. 320 00:15:37,970 --> 00:15:41,090 He told us you waited by the news vans in the parking building 321 00:15:41,290 --> 00:15:43,230 the night of the administration building takeover. 322 00:15:43,610 --> 00:15:45,237 Well, there were no satellite feeds then. 323 00:15:45,610 --> 00:15:48,910 So they had to have us motorcycle couriers deliver the footage to the station. 324 00:15:49,650 --> 00:15:51,318 Oh, man, what a night. 325 00:15:51,690 --> 00:15:54,310 Student radicals, Black Panthers, they're in the quad. 326 00:15:54,850 --> 00:15:56,130 Everybody's pumping adrenaline. 327 00:15:57,130 --> 00:15:59,610 Next thing you know, they're all rushing into the administration building. 328 00:15:59,652 --> 00:16:01,988 Just like that. Just like that. 329 00:16:02,050 --> 00:16:03,969 Where were you when you weren't delivering? 330 00:16:04,011 --> 00:16:04,890 Parking lot. 331 00:16:04,890 --> 00:16:06,517 Across the street from the dorms? 332 00:16:06,810 --> 00:16:10,290 Girls' dorm, they didn't close their shades. 333 00:16:10,290 --> 00:16:12,751 Oh, what a great night. 334 00:16:12,850 --> 00:16:15,970 Leroy, a bowl and spoon for the detective. 335 00:16:15,970 --> 00:16:18,181 So, you hear a gunshot that night? 336 00:16:18,330 --> 00:16:20,930 No. Too busy losing a week's paycheck. 337 00:16:21,410 --> 00:16:22,250 Five-card stud? 338 00:16:22,250 --> 00:16:23,501 Texas hold 'em. 339 00:16:24,650 --> 00:16:25,490 Played with the other couriers 340 00:16:25,730 --> 00:16:27,450 and one of the campus guards. 341 00:16:28,130 --> 00:16:29,673 Guard named Grady? 342 00:16:30,010 --> 00:16:32,350 Don't remember, but boy, could that brother play. 343 00:16:39,090 --> 00:16:40,910 I was stationed over at the maintenance building 344 00:16:41,090 --> 00:16:42,050 the night of the Occupation. 345 00:16:42,810 --> 00:16:44,130 All hell was breaking loose. 346 00:16:44,410 --> 00:16:48,250 Then why were you playing poker over in the parking building? 347 00:16:48,250 --> 00:16:51,378 Well, you see, I radioed Darryl over there in the building. 348 00:16:51,420 --> 00:16:52,890 Darryl Grady? 349 00:16:52,890 --> 00:16:54,550 You know Darryl? Yeah. We just met. 350 00:16:55,930 --> 00:16:57,810 So when you called over to Mr. Grady... 351 00:16:59,050 --> 00:17:03,179 Well, I tried to get him, but no response. 352 00:17:03,210 --> 00:17:05,770 With all them nuts out there, I worried. 353 00:17:06,410 --> 00:17:07,661 So, I went to see he was okay. 354 00:17:08,050 --> 00:17:10,170 So when you got there you saw a bunch of guys playing poker 355 00:17:10,330 --> 00:17:13,690 and you figured you'd ante up and settle in for the night, huh? 356 00:17:13,690 --> 00:17:15,275 Ever find Grady? 357 00:17:15,317 --> 00:17:16,318 No. 358 00:17:16,610 --> 00:17:18,730 He ever tell you where he went? 359 00:17:18,730 --> 00:17:19,570 None of my business. 360 00:17:20,370 --> 00:17:22,664 You know if he carried a gun? 361 00:17:22,664 --> 00:17:23,970 No. 362 00:17:23,970 --> 00:17:26,056 Any of the guards carry guns? 363 00:17:26,340 --> 00:17:27,180 Some of us. 364 00:17:27,260 --> 00:17:30,040 Weren't supposed to, but it was crazy out there. 365 00:17:32,180 --> 00:17:34,800 I got an emergency call from the chem building. I went there. 366 00:17:35,340 --> 00:17:36,360 You told us you didn't leave 367 00:17:36,460 --> 00:17:37,880 the parking building at all that night. 368 00:17:38,260 --> 00:17:40,180 He forgot. It was a long time ago. 369 00:17:40,180 --> 00:17:41,820 Your father seemed pretty sure yesterday. 370 00:17:42,740 --> 00:17:45,220 How long were you in the chemistry building, pops? 371 00:17:45,220 --> 00:17:47,060 I don't remember. I'm not good with details. 372 00:17:47,660 --> 00:17:50,740 Well, how about this detail? You carry a gun back then? 373 00:17:50,740 --> 00:17:51,580 Oh, come on! 374 00:17:51,580 --> 00:17:52,560 Kensington wouldn't let us. 375 00:17:52,660 --> 00:17:53,661 You remember carrying one anyway? 376 00:17:54,100 --> 00:17:55,435 He's told you everything he knows. 377 00:17:55,740 --> 00:17:58,340 I remember some army sergeant telling me and my wife that morning 378 00:17:58,500 --> 00:18:00,020 that our son was missing in Vietnam. 379 00:18:00,820 --> 00:18:03,620 Mrs. Bernstein's son was missing for 30 years. 380 00:18:03,620 --> 00:18:04,579 You remember what happened to him? 381 00:18:04,860 --> 00:18:05,940 Okay. Now, you're finished. 382 00:18:10,380 --> 00:18:12,460 Now Grady's got selective Alzheimer's. 383 00:18:12,940 --> 00:18:14,640 He forgets what he remembers to forget. 384 00:18:15,660 --> 00:18:18,579 Well, he didn't forget seeing the news. 385 00:18:21,791 --> 00:18:23,960 Strike! Strike! Strike! Strike! Strike! Strike! 386 00:18:24,001 --> 00:18:26,754 Strike! Strike! Strike! Strike! Strike! Strike! 387 00:18:26,796 --> 00:18:28,589 Strike! Strike! Strike! Strike! Strike! 388 00:18:28,900 --> 00:18:30,260 Nothing but a helmet and a nightstick. 389 00:18:30,344 --> 00:18:32,262 Strike! Strike! Strike! Strike! Strike! Strike! 390 00:18:33,460 --> 00:18:34,820 And you had to supply your own cup. 391 00:18:34,861 --> 00:18:37,990 I've heard security guards have armed themselves. Is that true? 392 00:18:38,300 --> 00:18:39,340 No, we don't carry guns. 393 00:18:39,340 --> 00:18:40,440 I've been told otherwise. 394 00:18:40,482 --> 00:18:41,983 You were told wrong. 395 00:18:42,780 --> 00:18:44,420 I wonder who told him the guards were armed. 396 00:18:46,220 --> 00:18:48,806 Can you back that up and then run it slow? 397 00:18:59,150 --> 00:19:00,443 Stop. 398 00:19:01,060 --> 00:19:01,900 Look at his ID. 399 00:19:07,075 --> 00:19:08,702 One word. 400 00:19:08,743 --> 00:19:10,120 Plastics. 401 00:19:14,740 --> 00:19:16,580 You know what this is? 402 00:19:16,580 --> 00:19:19,041 It's what's left of a security badge, 403 00:19:19,180 --> 00:19:20,940 found it in David Bernstein's van 404 00:19:21,140 --> 00:19:23,010 along with David Bernstein's bones. 405 00:19:23,430 --> 00:19:24,931 Any idea how it got there? 406 00:19:25,030 --> 00:19:28,050 University says you applied for a new badge the day after the Occupation. 407 00:19:29,230 --> 00:19:31,570 Mine got ripped off in a scuffle with some hippie brat. 408 00:19:31,990 --> 00:19:33,367 A brat named Bernstein? 409 00:19:33,550 --> 00:19:34,426 He rip it off your shirt 410 00:19:34,470 --> 00:19:36,270 right before you shot him in the head? 411 00:19:36,270 --> 00:19:37,530 You don't need to answer that. 412 00:19:37,670 --> 00:19:38,710 I didn't kill that kid. 413 00:19:38,990 --> 00:19:41,534 There was no emergency at the chem building. Where were you? 414 00:19:41,750 --> 00:19:43,790 Nowhere. I got the nights confused. 415 00:19:44,110 --> 00:19:46,350 You remember dumping the van in the river? 416 00:19:46,350 --> 00:19:47,893 Or are you confused about that, too? 417 00:19:48,110 --> 00:19:49,930 If all you've got's this old piece of plastic 418 00:19:50,150 --> 00:19:51,270 that could've come from anywhere. 419 00:19:51,670 --> 00:19:54,070 Mr. Grady, if you were in that building all night, 420 00:19:54,070 --> 00:19:55,270 you have to know something. 421 00:19:55,710 --> 00:19:57,610 If you tell us, we can help you. 422 00:20:00,310 --> 00:20:01,728 You can help? 423 00:20:02,950 --> 00:20:04,327 That's what the army sergeant said, 424 00:20:04,350 --> 00:20:05,670 when my son was missing in action. 425 00:20:06,670 --> 00:20:07,570 They said they could help. 426 00:20:10,470 --> 00:20:14,515 My son was MIA and those hippies, 427 00:20:14,670 --> 00:20:16,922 that night and all the other nights, 428 00:20:18,030 --> 00:20:20,574 they tore apart the university, 429 00:20:20,750 --> 00:20:23,030 they took a dump on the president's desk, 430 00:20:23,030 --> 00:20:25,730 wiped their butts with the flag. 431 00:20:27,550 --> 00:20:28,490 They spit in my face! 432 00:20:30,990 --> 00:20:33,790 I couldn't afford to send my kid to university, 433 00:20:33,790 --> 00:20:37,252 but those privileged brats, 434 00:20:37,510 --> 00:20:41,190 they poured pig's blood on the war memorial 435 00:20:42,790 --> 00:20:44,870 while my son was spilling his blood in Vietnam. 436 00:20:49,350 --> 00:20:51,227 Whatever I did then, 437 00:20:54,750 --> 00:20:55,590 you can't help. 438 00:21:02,430 --> 00:21:03,931 Can we go now? 439 00:21:05,990 --> 00:21:07,430 We didn't have enough to hold Grady. 440 00:21:07,472 --> 00:21:08,432 Thirty years? 441 00:21:09,510 --> 00:21:11,830 You never will unless you can put a gun in his hand. 442 00:21:12,510 --> 00:21:15,050 We checked, he never registered one in the state of New York. 443 00:21:15,270 --> 00:21:17,750 We couldn't find an interview with whoever told that reporter, 444 00:21:17,750 --> 00:21:19,001 Aimsley, about the guns. 445 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:20,140 He could've made it up. 446 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,640 We'd ask him, but he's dead. 447 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:26,866 You're sure Grady did it? 448 00:21:29,077 --> 00:21:30,203 Yes. 449 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:32,620 I'll follow up on Aimsley. 450 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:33,860 You guys keep digging for the gun. 451 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,080 If Roger said somebody told him something, that's what happened. 452 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:42,800 He wouldn't manipulate a story. 453 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,032 Oh, here are his notes from that week. 454 00:21:51,661 --> 00:21:55,240 Mmm. Can you read this? 455 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:56,580 He had his own shorthand system. 456 00:21:56,621 --> 00:21:58,039 What day? 457 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,833 The 23rd. Probably p.m. 458 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:03,929 Anything in particular? 459 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,900 Someone who told him campus security had guns. 460 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,240 It was a terrible time. You're too young to remember. 461 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,060 We were bewildered by it. 462 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,900 Roger was quite critical of the students, at first. 463 00:22:14,941 --> 00:22:15,901 At first? 464 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,397 Well, the war dragged on and on, 465 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,943 the government was telling one lie on top of another, 466 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,500 we were blasting a backward little country into the Stone Age. 467 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,763 There didn't seem to be any point to any of it. 468 00:22:27,804 --> 00:22:30,056 Oh, here. 469 00:22:30,360 --> 00:22:33,080 "Interviewed student who saw security guards with guns." 470 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:34,843 Is there a name? 471 00:22:34,884 --> 00:22:36,553 Mandy Lewis. 472 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,800 Were you on campus the night of the takeover? 473 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,010 Oh, God, yes! 474 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,060 I loved every minute of it. 475 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,320 I even got married there in the administration building. 476 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,780 One of the guys was a Universal Life minister. 477 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,340 You told a TV reporter that campus security guards had guns that night. 478 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,140 One guard. I saw him put it in his belt. 479 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:57,522 Do you know which guard? 480 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,980 Oh! Lord, no. I didn't know one from another. 481 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:02,992 Did you see David Bernstein that night? 482 00:23:03,034 --> 00:23:04,400 No. 483 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:05,680 Did a guard kill him? 484 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,598 Did he have any reason to? 485 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,005 Well, David wasn't shy about doing what it took to get the point across. 486 00:23:11,797 --> 00:23:12,680 Like what? 487 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:13,973 Oh, he was the one who got the blood that we poured 488 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,150 on the war memorial, God knows where. 489 00:23:16,330 --> 00:23:18,070 And then he organized this giant sit-in 490 00:23:18,130 --> 00:23:19,710 around the Dow Chemical recruiting booth. 491 00:23:20,130 --> 00:23:21,430 We chanted, handed out flyers 492 00:23:21,610 --> 00:23:24,330 and then this group of jocks came along and tried to break our heads. 493 00:23:24,610 --> 00:23:25,770 Security had to bust it up. 494 00:23:26,850 --> 00:23:30,210 Flyers and banners, who paid for all this? 495 00:23:30,210 --> 00:23:32,850 Well, David paid for most of it himself, 496 00:23:32,850 --> 00:23:34,290 printing costs, things like that. 497 00:23:34,332 --> 00:23:37,710 $500 for the VW Bus, $800 in the tin can, 498 00:23:38,890 --> 00:23:40,610 he bankrolled the radicals' operations. 499 00:23:41,610 --> 00:23:45,113 Lot of money for a poor kid in '68. Where'd he get it? 500 00:23:45,155 --> 00:23:46,323 Don't know. 501 00:23:46,770 --> 00:23:49,690 If his family was strapped, how'd he pay for Kensington? 502 00:23:49,690 --> 00:23:52,870 He told them he got a scholarship. I checked, he lied. 503 00:23:54,690 --> 00:23:57,026 Something illegal? Drugs? 504 00:23:57,330 --> 00:23:59,070 No shortage of customers back then. 505 00:23:59,112 --> 00:24:00,363 Or now. 506 00:24:00,930 --> 00:24:03,610 Wouldn't be the first revolution financed with drug money. 507 00:24:04,370 --> 00:24:05,913 It could be what got him in trouble with Grady, 508 00:24:05,930 --> 00:24:07,290 but the cops haven't turned anything up. 509 00:24:07,332 --> 00:24:09,459 Thirty years, not surprising. 510 00:24:10,290 --> 00:24:12,130 None of his friends know where he got his money? 511 00:24:12,130 --> 00:24:15,508 Mmm-mmm. They assumed his family was flush. 512 00:24:16,050 --> 00:24:16,890 I'll talk to the brother. 513 00:24:20,010 --> 00:24:21,930 My brother pays for a few flyers 514 00:24:22,490 --> 00:24:25,035 and you figure he's some sort of drug overlord? 515 00:24:25,170 --> 00:24:27,297 He lied to you about the scholarship, what else? 516 00:24:27,530 --> 00:24:29,730 Well, he didn't lie to me about taking me to the Yankee game 517 00:24:29,730 --> 00:24:32,010 on my ninth birthday or about how to throw a knuckleball, 518 00:24:32,450 --> 00:24:33,810 or about how to handle a bully. 519 00:24:34,850 --> 00:24:37,269 Kensington cost $1,500 a semester, 520 00:24:37,290 --> 00:24:38,834 that was a lot of money in '68. 521 00:24:38,850 --> 00:24:40,310 Do you have any idea where it came from? 522 00:24:41,330 --> 00:24:44,207 Look, my brother is the victim here. 523 00:24:44,450 --> 00:24:46,870 He's the one who got shot to death and dumped in the river. 524 00:24:48,490 --> 00:24:51,130 He was a good guy, stop trying to turn him into a criminal. 525 00:24:51,130 --> 00:24:53,410 Dr. Bernstein, we're not going to get a conviction 526 00:24:53,410 --> 00:24:55,350 unless we figure out what the conflict was 527 00:24:55,450 --> 00:24:57,190 between your brother and the suspect. 528 00:24:57,810 --> 00:25:00,290 Maybe David was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. 529 00:25:00,610 --> 00:25:03,010 Maybe the security guard just hated long-haired students. 530 00:25:03,330 --> 00:25:05,950 He did hate them. David's the only one he shot. 531 00:25:07,250 --> 00:25:10,510 We need information. We need to know where that money came from. 532 00:25:13,620 --> 00:25:16,500 Look, all I know is that he helped my mom out, 533 00:25:16,500 --> 00:25:18,900 paid the rent one month, couple of dentist bills. 534 00:25:19,660 --> 00:25:21,420 He have a bank account? 535 00:25:21,420 --> 00:25:22,260 I don't know. 536 00:25:23,060 --> 00:25:24,100 After my mom died, 537 00:25:24,100 --> 00:25:28,260 I moved all of her papers and photos and things into storage. 538 00:25:29,140 --> 00:25:30,620 She kept all of David's stuff. 539 00:25:31,740 --> 00:25:33,380 She was sure he was gonna come back one day. 540 00:25:38,100 --> 00:25:39,960 "Power comes from the barrel of a gun." 541 00:25:40,460 --> 00:25:42,060 Chairman Mao's little red book. 542 00:25:43,540 --> 00:25:44,380 Check these out. 543 00:25:46,180 --> 00:25:48,140 Oh! Handmade on MacDougal Street. 544 00:25:48,140 --> 00:25:49,680 You couldn't be a hippie without these. 545 00:25:51,580 --> 00:25:53,165 You think his mom had any idea what this was? 546 00:25:55,220 --> 00:25:58,306 Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. 547 00:25:58,420 --> 00:26:01,840 You still have an eight-track, don't you, Lennie? 548 00:26:02,380 --> 00:26:04,382 Hey, here they are. 549 00:26:04,820 --> 00:26:05,980 "Manhattan West Savings." 550 00:26:06,022 --> 00:26:08,316 Deposited $183.65 every Friday. 551 00:26:09,340 --> 00:26:12,676 You can finance a revolution on $183.65? 552 00:26:12,700 --> 00:26:15,745 That's what they paid rookies back in '68, 553 00:26:16,340 --> 00:26:17,600 take-home pay to the penny. 554 00:26:23,220 --> 00:26:24,980 You've got 30-year-old files on computer? 555 00:26:24,980 --> 00:26:28,484 We're working our way back, made it as far as '61. 556 00:26:28,943 --> 00:26:30,402 Let's see. 557 00:26:30,986 --> 00:26:32,279 Bernstein... 558 00:26:32,420 --> 00:26:36,000 Aaron... Daniel... David. 559 00:26:38,060 --> 00:26:40,228 David Bernstein, '68, right? 560 00:26:40,580 --> 00:26:41,880 Right. I can't help you. 561 00:26:42,060 --> 00:26:43,937 You'll have to talk to BOSSI. 562 00:26:43,940 --> 00:26:44,920 Bureau of Special Services. 563 00:26:46,060 --> 00:26:47,960 Wait a second. I just want to find out more about David... 564 00:26:48,140 --> 00:26:50,142 Lieutenant Gene Sayres. 565 00:26:55,100 --> 00:26:57,853 Anybody know what Special Squad Three was? 566 00:26:57,860 --> 00:26:59,600 A branch of the Bureau of Special Services 567 00:26:59,860 --> 00:27:04,114 that spied on radicals in the '60s, why? 568 00:27:04,380 --> 00:27:07,990 One Police Plaza told me that if I wanted to know about David Bernstein, 569 00:27:07,990 --> 00:27:10,250 I'd have to talk to BOSSI, who told me they couldn't 570 00:27:10,390 --> 00:27:12,630 give me access to the Special Squad Three files. 571 00:27:15,230 --> 00:27:19,359 Mr. Bernstein was an undercover cop? 572 00:27:30,990 --> 00:27:32,310 Why does that make them unavailable? 573 00:27:33,230 --> 00:27:34,770 You don't even know what you're looking for. 574 00:27:35,030 --> 00:27:36,230 And you haven't answered the question. 575 00:27:36,710 --> 00:27:39,090 We're hoping that the file might shed some light 576 00:27:39,230 --> 00:27:41,050 on Bernstein's relationship with Mr. Grady. 577 00:27:41,270 --> 00:27:43,890 And why should it? Bernstein wasn't keeping an eye on campus security. 578 00:27:44,430 --> 00:27:46,390 Who was he watching? 579 00:27:47,830 --> 00:27:50,350 We'll give you access to the files as soon as we're able. 580 00:27:50,910 --> 00:27:52,495 Before the next millennium? 581 00:27:56,510 --> 00:27:58,350 I talked to the Chief of Police. 582 00:27:58,350 --> 00:28:00,602 Practically claiming national security. 583 00:28:00,710 --> 00:28:01,710 We can get a subpoena. 584 00:28:01,710 --> 00:28:03,210 I don't want to start a range war. 585 00:28:03,790 --> 00:28:05,070 Go at it from a different direction. 586 00:28:06,070 --> 00:28:09,350 We could talk to other SS Three cops who worked with Bernstein. 587 00:28:09,350 --> 00:28:10,650 Need the files to get their names. 588 00:28:11,070 --> 00:28:12,870 Kensington records go back that far. 589 00:28:13,510 --> 00:28:14,370 So what? So what. 590 00:28:14,510 --> 00:28:16,130 So cross-match student enrollment 591 00:28:16,390 --> 00:28:19,270 in '68 with police payroll records. 592 00:28:23,990 --> 00:28:26,230 I applied to the department in '67. 593 00:28:26,230 --> 00:28:27,070 I was 21. 594 00:28:27,710 --> 00:28:29,070 They swore me in secretly, 595 00:28:29,070 --> 00:28:30,280 put my badge in a locked drawer, 596 00:28:30,590 --> 00:28:34,090 and shoved me onto the Kensington campus with no training. 597 00:28:35,070 --> 00:28:36,390 And I don't remember any Bernstein. 598 00:28:37,430 --> 00:28:39,223 How about the other undercover operators? 599 00:28:39,590 --> 00:28:40,790 Hell, we didn't know who was who. 600 00:28:40,790 --> 00:28:42,810 Just ran around like blindfolded chickens. 601 00:28:43,190 --> 00:28:44,170 Whole thing was stupid. 602 00:28:45,430 --> 00:28:48,470 Stopping people from blowing things up is stupid? 603 00:28:48,470 --> 00:28:50,556 You don't have a grasp of it, do you? 604 00:28:50,710 --> 00:28:54,030 Our job was to provoke stuff, so the cops could make arrests. 605 00:28:54,072 --> 00:28:55,741 Stupid. 606 00:28:56,230 --> 00:28:57,290 Weren't there violent revolutionaries 607 00:28:57,630 --> 00:28:58,589 trying to bring down the government? 608 00:28:59,630 --> 00:29:01,950 Man, where'd you learn history? 609 00:29:01,950 --> 00:29:05,037 One of the radical leadership meetings I went to? 610 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,040 There were eight of us there. 611 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,160 Now, after I graduated Kensington, 612 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,960 the department sent me to the police academy. 613 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,260 Five of the eight so-called radicals were in my academy class. 614 00:29:14,302 --> 00:29:19,181 So you tell me, who was bringing down the government, hmm? 615 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,055 What's this about? 616 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,566 A cop killing, Sergeant Lucas. 617 00:29:25,607 --> 00:29:26,880 Thirty years ago. 618 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,160 You were undercover at Kensington? 619 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,954 '67 to '71. 620 00:29:31,746 --> 00:29:33,123 Open case? 621 00:29:33,164 --> 00:29:34,666 Yes. 622 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:35,760 While you were at the university, 623 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,971 did you have any dealings with David Bernstein? 624 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,200 Not a lot. I was told to keep an eye on him. 625 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,262 Who told you to watch him? 626 00:29:43,304 --> 00:29:44,888 My handler. 627 00:29:45,097 --> 00:29:47,099 Why? 628 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,640 They didn't burden us with a lot of unnecessary information. 629 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,000 Guy had a rep, that's all I needed to know. 630 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:55,800 Were you watching him the night he disappeared? 631 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,640 He went into a parking building where he kept his bus. 632 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,280 The bus drove out without him. 633 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:05,840 Who was driving? 634 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,220 A campus security guard. 635 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,131 You got a name? 636 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,720 Just some guard I'd seen around. 637 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:12,973 Did you follow the bus? 638 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,100 I was following Bernstein. He wasn't in it. 639 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,980 So I went into the parking building to look for him. 640 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,147 You find him? 641 00:30:21,522 --> 00:30:22,773 No. 642 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:24,738 He killed a cop? 643 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:26,160 He was the cop. 644 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,303 Did you tell anybody about seeing the bus leave the building? 645 00:30:31,637 --> 00:30:33,014 Sure. 646 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,100 Everything I saw, I told to my handler. Sergeant Ross McMillan. 647 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,880 Sergeant Lucas picked Grady out of a photo array. 648 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,140 30-year-old ID. Defense will have a field day. 649 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:44,820 None of this makes any sense. 650 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,000 You've got one cop watching another, 651 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,560 neither one knowing they were both police. 652 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,180 Didn't make sense then, either. 653 00:30:50,222 --> 00:30:51,390 Please. 654 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,900 I'll have Briscoe and Curtis arrest Mr. Grady. 655 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,850 Maybe you can find Lucas' handler, Ross McMillan. 656 00:31:02,570 --> 00:31:04,850 For reasons of safety, we don't give out the addresses 657 00:31:04,850 --> 00:31:06,970 of police personnel, active or retired. 658 00:31:07,290 --> 00:31:10,450 And you haven't given me a compelling reason to make an exception here. 659 00:31:10,610 --> 00:31:13,130 He was given information about a murder 30 years ago. 660 00:31:13,930 --> 00:31:15,431 Did he investigate it? 661 00:31:15,650 --> 00:31:16,810 Did he cover it up? 662 00:31:16,810 --> 00:31:20,314 Mr. Grady has one foot in the grave, make him a deal. 663 00:31:21,290 --> 00:31:22,130 You mean make it go away. 664 00:31:22,130 --> 00:31:24,215 The D.A.'s office can prosecute Grady 665 00:31:26,370 --> 00:31:28,790 without grubbing around Special Squad Three activities. 666 00:31:29,130 --> 00:31:30,110 Grubbing is the right word. 667 00:31:30,330 --> 00:31:32,750 I'm not clear about what your agenda is here, Mr. McCoy. 668 00:31:33,570 --> 00:31:36,330 Your suspect had nothing to do with Special Squad Three. 669 00:31:36,372 --> 00:31:37,665 Our victim did. 670 00:31:37,930 --> 00:31:38,990 There's no connection. 671 00:31:40,770 --> 00:31:41,610 If there's nothing else... 672 00:31:41,820 --> 00:31:42,863 Nothing. 673 00:31:52,730 --> 00:31:54,930 The state has every right to take action against terrorists. 674 00:31:55,570 --> 00:31:56,730 Activists aren't terrorists. 675 00:31:57,050 --> 00:31:58,240 If it walks like a duck... 676 00:31:58,282 --> 00:32:00,700 Terrorist, not terrorist. 677 00:32:00,700 --> 00:32:02,243 The subject is Mr. Grady. 678 00:32:02,260 --> 00:32:04,300 We've got Grady. The case is bigger than that. 679 00:32:04,540 --> 00:32:05,380 In your mind. 680 00:32:06,300 --> 00:32:07,700 He's using a sick old man 681 00:32:07,820 --> 00:32:09,700 to start a holy war against the police department. 682 00:32:10,020 --> 00:32:11,340 We should offer Grady a plea. 683 00:32:11,382 --> 00:32:12,716 No lower than man one. 684 00:32:13,020 --> 00:32:16,880 If Grady takes a plea, we'll have no leverage to get the files. 685 00:32:17,060 --> 00:32:20,080 The police department can keep on covering up its illegal activities. 686 00:32:20,420 --> 00:32:24,174 The case is not about police spying, it's about murder. 687 00:32:27,580 --> 00:32:30,250 That punk, he was a cop? 688 00:32:31,420 --> 00:32:32,880 We understand you didn't know that. 689 00:32:34,215 --> 00:32:36,509 Man one, 12 and a half-to-25. 690 00:32:38,620 --> 00:32:39,740 Give it up, Mr. McCoy. 691 00:32:40,940 --> 00:32:41,780 There's no evidence. 692 00:32:42,100 --> 00:32:42,940 We have a new witness 693 00:32:43,860 --> 00:32:47,200 who saw Mr. Grady driving the VW Bus out of the parking building 694 00:32:47,900 --> 00:32:51,480 seven minutes after Bernstein walked into it, on the night he disappeared. 695 00:32:52,140 --> 00:32:53,580 I want to see the witness' statement. 696 00:32:53,940 --> 00:32:55,980 You know we don't have to give you that until the trial. 697 00:32:58,340 --> 00:33:00,140 But there's no reason you shouldn't have it now. 698 00:33:04,769 --> 00:33:08,440 What, this is from another undercover cop? 699 00:33:08,780 --> 00:33:12,159 Why was no action taken for 30 years? 700 00:33:12,580 --> 00:33:14,680 You'd have to talk to the people who were in charge then. 701 00:33:14,722 --> 00:33:16,265 I will. 702 00:33:16,780 --> 00:33:19,040 And you'll have to take this one to trial, Mr. McCoy. 703 00:33:20,100 --> 00:33:22,320 There's plenty here to create reasonable doubt. 704 00:33:26,380 --> 00:33:27,680 You don't want him to take the deal. 705 00:33:28,300 --> 00:33:30,000 You didn't have to hand over the witness report. 706 00:33:30,380 --> 00:33:31,220 Had to sometime. 707 00:33:31,940 --> 00:33:33,420 You don't give a damn what that old man did. 708 00:33:33,500 --> 00:33:34,700 You just want to get at those files. 709 00:33:34,980 --> 00:33:36,480 And this case gives me the opportunity. 710 00:33:36,820 --> 00:33:37,860 I'm not passing it up. 711 00:33:38,860 --> 00:33:40,880 Let's get the grand jury busy issuing subpoenas. 712 00:33:41,980 --> 00:33:44,340 Please, go back and talk to him, huh? 713 00:33:44,340 --> 00:33:45,280 If he won't take the deal... 714 00:33:45,580 --> 00:33:46,914 No, not if it means prison. 715 00:33:47,060 --> 00:33:48,800 Then I don't know what choice you think I have. 716 00:33:51,380 --> 00:33:53,500 You see, my father, you don't understand anything about my father. 717 00:33:53,500 --> 00:33:54,930 He's not some hard-hat redneck. 718 00:33:56,150 --> 00:33:58,270 He voted for Kennedy. He voted for Johnson. 719 00:33:59,990 --> 00:34:02,250 You see, when he saw how people acted 720 00:34:02,430 --> 00:34:04,270 when he told them his son was fighting in Vietnam, 721 00:34:04,270 --> 00:34:05,790 it broke his heart, what they said. 722 00:34:06,630 --> 00:34:10,350 In '68, he voted for Nixon. My old man used to make fun of Nixon. 723 00:34:10,950 --> 00:34:13,730 I'm sorry, Mr. Grady, we can't turn a blind eye to murder. 724 00:34:15,990 --> 00:34:17,730 You could lower the charge. 725 00:34:18,750 --> 00:34:19,650 You could give him probation. 726 00:34:21,190 --> 00:34:22,690 You could do anything you want. 727 00:34:27,990 --> 00:34:29,990 I went through Bernstein's file myself. 728 00:34:30,270 --> 00:34:32,750 There's nothing conclusive that could help your case. 729 00:34:33,070 --> 00:34:34,279 Does it mention Mr. Grady? 730 00:34:34,321 --> 00:34:36,239 In passing. 731 00:34:36,281 --> 00:34:38,408 Did Grady and Bernstein clash? 732 00:34:38,450 --> 00:34:41,110 Did Bernstein report Mr. Grady had a gun? Did they... 733 00:34:41,110 --> 00:34:43,270 You are riding this horse to death, McCoy. 734 00:34:43,590 --> 00:34:44,967 What's the point? 735 00:34:45,009 --> 00:34:46,719 Justice. 736 00:34:47,150 --> 00:34:50,403 You want to fight the subpoenas, bring body armor. 737 00:34:55,470 --> 00:34:56,530 Covering up the cover-up. 738 00:34:56,905 --> 00:34:58,281 Again. 739 00:35:03,190 --> 00:35:06,270 For God's sake, Jack, why don't you just start your own country? 740 00:35:06,270 --> 00:35:07,550 No cops, no bad guys. 741 00:35:07,710 --> 00:35:09,970 Just sweetness and light as far as the eye can see. 742 00:35:12,070 --> 00:35:13,430 I've cut you a lot of slack on this 743 00:35:13,510 --> 00:35:15,390 'cause you don't know a damn thing about the '60s, 744 00:35:15,390 --> 00:35:16,390 you weren't even born yet. 745 00:35:16,390 --> 00:35:18,470 I was born when the World Trade Center was bombed 746 00:35:18,630 --> 00:35:21,330 and the cops wouldn't have caught those people without undercover work. 747 00:35:21,590 --> 00:35:22,930 I'm not saying it's never justified. 748 00:35:23,310 --> 00:35:25,395 No, you just seem to think you get to decide. 749 00:35:25,430 --> 00:35:26,570 It's a police decision. 750 00:35:28,870 --> 00:35:31,170 See if Mr. Grady's lawyer wants to join the fight. 751 00:35:32,830 --> 00:35:36,430 Unusual for the two sides to file jointly in an opposition to quash. 752 00:35:36,950 --> 00:35:39,510 Both sides are being damaged by the police secrecy, Your Honor. 753 00:35:39,710 --> 00:35:41,870 Neither side has any reason to think 754 00:35:42,070 --> 00:35:45,990 that Lieutenant McMillan's memory or Mr. Bernstein's file 755 00:35:46,230 --> 00:35:48,610 contain any evidence that can be used against Mr. Grady. 756 00:35:49,030 --> 00:35:50,573 Who knows what's in those files? 757 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,200 They may point to some other suspect than my client. 758 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,040 Miss Latham is trying to represent her client. 759 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,166 Mr. McCoy's on a crusade. 760 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,320 He wants to expose the inner workings of the Special Squad. 761 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,320 He's not going to stop with Bernstein's file. 762 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:04,860 He will if I tell him to. 763 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:06,980 Do you have any specific reason 764 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,780 to think Lieutenant McMillan investigated Mr. Bernstein's disappearance? 765 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,720 Everybody the detectives and the D.A.'s talked to 766 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,820 have said that David Bernstein got fed up and went to Canada. 767 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,900 They didn't know a witness saw Mr. Grady driving the VW Bus. 768 00:36:19,942 --> 00:36:21,527 McMillan did. So what? 769 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,920 Obviously, if McMillan investigated the disappearance, 770 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,480 he didn't find out what really happened. 771 00:36:28,240 --> 00:36:30,618 How will we know that until we ask him? 772 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,921 You really are fishing, aren't you, Mr. McCoy? 773 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,020 Fair trial's impossible without the facts. 774 00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:40,347 Lieutenant McMillan's retired? 775 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:41,520 Yes. 776 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,856 You know where he is? 777 00:36:45,774 --> 00:36:47,651 Albany. 778 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,120 Hell of a place to retire to. 779 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,260 I order you to produce Mr. McMillan. 780 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,740 And after we hear from him, I'll decide whether to quash the subpoenas. 781 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,582 Your Honor. 782 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,533 Mr. McMillan, either answer the questions or take the Fifth. 783 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,180 Did Officer Lucas tell you that he saw a security guard 784 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,559 drive the VW Bus out of the parking building that night? 785 00:37:25,436 --> 00:37:26,320 Yes. 786 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,322 That didn't set off alarm bells? 787 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,220 I thought Bernstein just left. 788 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:32,720 Month before the disappearance, 789 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:34,880 all I heard from the kid was grousing. 790 00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:38,680 He thought we were all full of crap. 791 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,849 Why didn't you fire him? 792 00:37:44,937 --> 00:37:46,355 Mr. McMillan. 793 00:37:52,170 --> 00:37:55,330 He'd worked his way into Kenneth Stratton's confidence. 794 00:37:55,330 --> 00:37:57,490 Kenneth Stratton was the head of the student organization? 795 00:37:58,490 --> 00:38:00,190 The radical organization, yes. 796 00:38:00,890 --> 00:38:02,349 But why harbor a renegade? 797 00:38:02,930 --> 00:38:06,290 Did you need Bernstein, specifically, for some scheme you were hatching? 798 00:38:06,290 --> 00:38:09,450 Your Honor, what does this have to do with the security guard, Darryl Grady, 799 00:38:09,450 --> 00:38:10,618 who's accused of the murder? 800 00:38:11,410 --> 00:38:12,536 Mr. McCoy? 801 00:38:12,690 --> 00:38:15,350 Grady was appalled at what the students were doing. 802 00:38:16,370 --> 00:38:17,537 Bernstein was in the thick of it, 803 00:38:17,930 --> 00:38:20,890 carrying out the dirty tricks his superiors gave him. 804 00:38:23,330 --> 00:38:24,790 What was Bernstein doing? 805 00:38:25,170 --> 00:38:26,910 Nothing. He refused. 806 00:38:26,951 --> 00:38:28,369 Refused what? 807 00:38:28,970 --> 00:38:32,250 To convince Kenneth Stratton to formally affiliate with the Black Panthers. 808 00:38:35,490 --> 00:38:36,658 What was the point of that? 809 00:38:38,730 --> 00:38:40,170 To damage Stratton's credibility 810 00:38:40,450 --> 00:38:41,890 with the non-violent organizations. 811 00:38:43,450 --> 00:38:46,119 Stratton was an effective leader, 812 00:38:46,170 --> 00:38:48,756 we needed to neutralize him. 813 00:38:48,810 --> 00:38:51,070 We really thought there was a revolution, you know. 814 00:38:51,821 --> 00:38:53,322 There might've been. 815 00:38:54,170 --> 00:38:57,250 Were you neutralizing a revolution or fomenting one? 816 00:38:57,250 --> 00:38:58,209 What's that mean? 817 00:38:58,530 --> 00:39:00,650 Did you tell David Bernstein to pour blood 818 00:39:00,770 --> 00:39:03,481 on the Kensington University war memorial? 819 00:39:03,982 --> 00:39:05,130 Yes. 820 00:39:05,130 --> 00:39:06,298 Did you provide the blood? 821 00:39:06,530 --> 00:39:08,532 Yes. What was the purpose? 822 00:39:08,690 --> 00:39:10,730 To outrage ordinary citizens, 823 00:39:10,730 --> 00:39:11,850 turn them against the radicals. 824 00:39:12,410 --> 00:39:15,580 So your purpose was political, 825 00:39:16,810 --> 00:39:17,769 nothing to do with police work? 826 00:39:18,290 --> 00:39:20,650 Our purpose was to save the city from disruption. 827 00:39:22,370 --> 00:39:24,122 Did you look for David Bernstein? 828 00:39:25,850 --> 00:39:27,510 I talked to the Missing Persons detective. 829 00:39:29,570 --> 00:39:31,489 He thought the same thing I did, 830 00:39:31,610 --> 00:39:32,790 Bernstein just cleared out. 831 00:39:33,530 --> 00:39:38,410 Despite the fact that the last person seen driving his bus was Mr. Grady? 832 00:39:39,050 --> 00:39:40,927 Did you tell your superiors about that? 833 00:39:42,137 --> 00:39:44,222 Yes. 834 00:39:44,540 --> 00:39:47,680 They told me to find a way to make Bernstein's disappearance 835 00:39:48,060 --> 00:39:49,760 look like the work of the Black Panthers. 836 00:39:59,180 --> 00:40:00,514 Did you succeed? 837 00:40:00,540 --> 00:40:02,380 I told them it wasn't feasible. 838 00:40:03,700 --> 00:40:05,320 Bernstein might pop up again. 839 00:40:06,580 --> 00:40:09,041 Also, we didn't know what Grady might say. 840 00:40:09,140 --> 00:40:11,268 Did you ask him what he had to say? 841 00:40:15,220 --> 00:40:17,520 My superiors told me to let it go. 842 00:40:18,780 --> 00:40:24,300 So, no effort was made to find out what happened to David Bernstein, 843 00:40:24,300 --> 00:40:25,718 a fellow police officer, 844 00:40:26,140 --> 00:40:29,268 who was lying dead at the bottom of the Hudson River, 845 00:40:29,340 --> 00:40:31,320 because the police did not want to compromise 846 00:40:31,580 --> 00:40:34,300 their covert and illegal activities. 847 00:40:35,260 --> 00:40:36,460 We didn't know he was dead. 848 00:40:38,300 --> 00:40:40,140 We just didn't want him going to the press. 849 00:40:47,860 --> 00:40:49,112 Even in a free society, 850 00:40:49,460 --> 00:40:53,360 police have every right to infiltrate criminal organizations. 851 00:40:55,060 --> 00:40:58,680 If undercover agents know their files can become public record 852 00:40:58,900 --> 00:41:02,029 at the whim of the district attorney's office, 853 00:41:02,180 --> 00:41:03,380 police department will be hogtied. 854 00:41:04,980 --> 00:41:06,500 Mr. McCoy has shown no reason 855 00:41:06,500 --> 00:41:07,600 why he should be given access 856 00:41:07,940 --> 00:41:10,160 to confidential police department files. 857 00:41:16,100 --> 00:41:19,660 If bringing a cop killer to justice isn't reason enough for Mr. Kushner, 858 00:41:19,660 --> 00:41:20,620 I don't know what would be. 859 00:41:21,620 --> 00:41:24,340 If the police department doesn't want to be embarrassed 860 00:41:24,620 --> 00:41:26,955 by revelations about its behavior, 861 00:41:27,140 --> 00:41:28,540 maybe it shouldn't behave badly. 862 00:41:31,140 --> 00:41:35,500 The police stalked, harassed and mistreated ordinary citizens 863 00:41:35,860 --> 00:41:37,800 whose political opinions they didn't like. 864 00:41:39,350 --> 00:41:42,270 Is this acceptable in a democracy? 865 00:41:42,270 --> 00:41:44,650 Is this acceptable in a society founded 866 00:41:44,830 --> 00:41:47,332 on freedom of thought and speech? 867 00:41:49,790 --> 00:41:51,630 Can our society survive 868 00:41:54,270 --> 00:41:59,550 secret police monitoring of law-abiding people 869 00:42:00,110 --> 00:42:02,571 who question government policy? 870 00:42:05,470 --> 00:42:10,266 The files I'm requesting may be shaming to the department, 871 00:42:10,390 --> 00:42:12,830 but they're not privileged, they're not protected, 872 00:42:12,830 --> 00:42:15,390 they're not sheltered by any conceivable argument 873 00:42:15,630 --> 00:42:17,549 Mr. Kushner can come up with. 874 00:42:19,270 --> 00:42:20,830 There may be compelling reasons 875 00:42:21,270 --> 00:42:24,610 for the police department to keep certain files confidential, 876 00:42:25,630 --> 00:42:28,133 at least for a time, 877 00:42:28,470 --> 00:42:31,510 but governmental secrecy is anathema to democracy 878 00:42:32,710 --> 00:42:35,110 and must be motivated by more than a desire 879 00:42:35,430 --> 00:42:37,650 to avoid embarrassment and controversy. 880 00:42:41,110 --> 00:42:43,270 I'm denying your motion to quash the subpoenas. 881 00:42:54,156 --> 00:42:56,199 Man two, one-to-three. 882 00:42:56,241 --> 00:42:57,492 Minimum security. 883 00:43:00,270 --> 00:43:06,777 Mr. Bernstein's file contains seven reports of run-ins with you. 884 00:43:06,870 --> 00:43:11,510 He clearly provoked them to make himself look good to his friends, 885 00:43:11,510 --> 00:43:13,110 but they don't look good for you. 886 00:43:19,408 --> 00:43:21,035 I'm tired. 887 00:43:25,110 --> 00:43:26,770 I had a gun because I was scared. 888 00:43:29,110 --> 00:43:33,114 I didn't want to get caught between the cops and the protestors. 889 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,380 Bernstein's bus was parked in a staff space. 890 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,240 I told him to move it. He gave me some lip. 891 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:48,180 This kid who poured blood on the memorial. 892 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:50,900 I can't believe he was a cop. 893 00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:56,620 All I could think of was my son. 894 00:44:02,334 --> 00:44:03,711 I snapped. 895 00:44:06,380 --> 00:44:07,756 I'm sorry. 896 00:44:09,383 --> 00:44:10,884 I'm sorry. 897 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,760 Grady said if he knew Bernstein was a cop, 898 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,420 he wouldn't have done it, he wouldn't have snapped. 899 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,760 Jack thinks the police department is responsible for Bernstein's death. 900 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,760 They did everything they could think of to provoke people. 901 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:40,820 Worked like a charm on Mr. Grady. 902 00:44:43,782 --> 00:44:44,824 Yeah. 69100

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