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the people are represented
the people are represented
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by two separate
yet equally important groups:
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the police,
who investigate crime
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and the district attorneys,
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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I'm telling you,
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one day Conner was the sweetest
kid I've ever known,
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the next day, "No" had
become an art form.
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He's discovering
his inner sense of self.
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Yeah, more like
his inner monster.
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You just wait until
Maggie plants her feet
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in the middle of Toys R Us
and screams bloody murder.
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I'm serious, Amy.
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Kids don't need
independence.
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They need structure
and discipline.
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Makes them feel safe.
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Oh, my God.
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Amy?
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Amy?!
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Please, call 911!
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Is she okay?
Just call!
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Amy? Amy?
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Just hang on.
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I'm getting an ambulance.
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Female victim, Amy Lane,
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took one to the neck.
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She was walking her baby with
her friend Tracy Underwood.
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The friend says
she heard a shot,
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looked over,
Amy was on the ground.
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Any other witnesses?
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Just a restaurant owner.
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I got him.
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Shot looks
through-and-through.
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Where'd the slug
wind up?
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We can't find it.
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No shell casings, either.
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Any idea
what kind of weapon?
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Shot came
from a distance,
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so, with no slug
or shell casing...
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And where
was the shooter?
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If we knew which way she was facing before
she got hit,
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maybe we could figure
the angle of the shot.
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I was leaning
in my stroller.
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Uh, I didn't see
what she was doing.
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I was opening up
my restaurant.
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How about
where the shot came from?
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Over there, maybe?
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What do you think?
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I don't know.
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You were opening up,
weren't you?
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I think it was
from over there.
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Has anyone called
Amy's husband?
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What about the baby?
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Uh, the officer
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will take care
of the baby.
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How can we reach
her husband?
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Uh, he's a consultant
with McMurtry & Company.
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Okay, thanks.
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What'd you find out?
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Could have been
a stray bullet.
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Six inches to the right,
and she'd still be here.
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Six inches to the right,
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and Lincoln would've seen
the end of the play.
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Amy just had an
acupuncturist appointment.Ie
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She was having back problems
from lifting the baby.
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Uh, was her appointment
in Chinatown?
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On Mott Street.
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Um...
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How could this have happened
at 9:00 in the morning?
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Mr. Lane, I know this is a difficult
question at a time like this,
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but can you think of anybody
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who might have wanted
to hurt your wife?
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I, I thought this
was some random thing.
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Well, we're not certain
of anything just yet.
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We have to ask.
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Look, you're going down
the wrong road.
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How were things at home?
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Everything was fine.
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Look, I know
you have to ask
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these questions,
but please,
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I wasn't cheating
on my wife, and, uh,
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there isn't anyone
who wanted to hurt her.
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Okay, Mr. Lane.
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Uh, the restaurant owner
from this morning
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just showed up
with his daughter.
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I put him in Interrogation Two.
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Mr. Chin?
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My father has something
to tell you.
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He knows something
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about the shooting
that happened this morning.
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Is that true,
Mr. Chin?
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Sir, if you saw something,
we could use your help.
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What about my family?
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Who will help them?
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If you talk to us,
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we can protect you.
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If you don't...
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The Ghost Dragons.
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They were extorting
my restaurant.
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Last week, I didn't
have enough money.
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They said I would pay
one way or another.
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Maybe they did
this to warn me.
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You did the right thing,
Mr. Chin.
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Ah, you must be
the Dai Lo.
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Out.
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So there was a shooting this
morning on Catherine Street.
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Really?
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Hadn't heard.
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You know,
that wouldn't
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make you much of a Dai Lo,
now would it,
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if you didn't know what was
going on in your own territory.
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Territory?
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I don't know what
you mean, brother.
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That's where
the people live
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who pay you
protection money.
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Yeah.
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Where were you at
9:00 this morning?
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Nine o'clock.
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I was catching Z's, man.
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Lennie.
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The lou wants us
to check out
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another shooting
on Powell Street.
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I was standing in line behind
him, he just collapsed.
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Did you hear the shot?
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I thought it was
a car backfiring.
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You know where
it came from?
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Definitely
from over there.
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Get CSU across the street.
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We checked, Detective.
Nothing.
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Well, check again.
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Did you see anything
after the shooting?
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Everyone taking cover.
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Detectives!
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This looks like your slug.
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Could be a .243 or
a seven-millimeter.
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Rifle?
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Definitely a rifle.
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Same neighborhood,
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same general scenario.
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Shot from out of nowhere,
victim goes down.
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One of them hit in the neck,
one in the head.
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They both can't be
stray bullets.
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No witnesses?
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Plenty of people
see the victim go down,
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nobody sees the shooter.
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What about
these Ghost Dragons?
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We're putting them in
line-ups on the extortion,
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but the second
shooting doesn't seem
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to have any relation
to a restaurant.
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Well, what about
some kind of hit?
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Is there any connection
between the two victims?
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He's an accountant,
she's a mom.
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Maybe he did her taxes.
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Well, let's hope that's it.
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I'm sorry.
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Amy Lane isn't anywhere
in Mr. Speiling's book.
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How about off the book?
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What's that
supposed to mean?
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Could they have been
seeing each other socially?
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Absolutely not.
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Look, Mrs. Barker,
we're not interested
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in embarrassing Mr. Speiling or his
family,
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we just want to find out
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who killed him.
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Mr. Speiling
was not having an affair.
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And frankly, I can't believe
that you would come in here
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after what just happened,
and imply that he was.
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Right now, every second counts,
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so I'm going to ask you again.
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Are you sure, because sometimes
there are little signs,
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you know, you ignore them,
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you don't let yourself
think about it.
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I've worked with Larry
for 20 years.
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You're with someone that long,
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you know every little thing
about them.
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Briscoe.
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Yeah.
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Thanks.
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Get these people back!
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His name's
Charlie Rodriguez.
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Foreman for
the power company.
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Slug's from a rifle.
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Tell me someone
saw something.
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Lieutenant,
this place is a mess.
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We just started
to talk to people.
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Sergeant, I want you to hunt
down every single person
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who was here
when this man was shot.
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I want to know
where they were standing,
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what they heard,
what they were doing.
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Yes, ma'am.
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What you got for us, Wes?
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I'm trying to figure out
where your shot came from.
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Here, hold this.
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He was DOA, so the medics
didn't touch him,
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mess up the wound.
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Now, witnesses say
he was facing the street,
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writing on a clipboard
when he got hit.
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I already ran a probe
into the wound,
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measured the angle.
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Now, based on
that calculation--
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Where was the bastard?
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That roof.
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Lou, we got gunshot
residue over here.
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So the guy took his shot
from here.
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And either goes
down the stairs,
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or across
a couple of rooftops.
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Lieutenant?
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Forensics found this note
taped to the wall
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on the other side
of the roof.
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"Someone stop the voices."
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Ballistics makes both slugs
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seven millimeter rounds
fired from a Remington 700.
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Nobody sees a guy
walking around with a rifle
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in broad daylight?
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They make a model that
breaks down like a pool cue.
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You can conceal it in your
jacket or your shopping bag.
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Guy took out each of his victims
with a single shot.
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That means he knows
what he's doing.
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Any link between
these people?
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Just that they were shot
within a ten-block radius.
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Other than that,
it looks random.
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Wonderful.
I think it's time
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we shut down
lower Manhattan,
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like we did
when the towers went down.
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If we do that, sir,
we'll have panic on our hands.
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I at least want that area
swarming with manpower.
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All RDO's
have been canceled.
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Everyone's pulling
double tours.
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The commissioner wants
observation posts set up
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with views
of the rooftops.
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Does the media
know about the note?
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My sources at the local
news outlets say yes.
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Okay, Lieutenant, you'll
continue to run the team--
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for now.
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Let's get this
son of a bitch.
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Hey, Ed.
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I got something on
the west side of Pell Street.
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Looks like a cable guy.
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Better make sure.
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Get a car over
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to the corner
of Pell and Mott.
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Central, we've got a possible
suspect...
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Eight million people in this city,
and one lunatic.
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How come I don't like
these odds?
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For once, I'm glad the house
always wins.
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Yeah, but given enough time.
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Yep.
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Lady at 130 Mott
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says she hears
somebody on her roof.
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One-thirty?
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Corner building.
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South of the green steeple.
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Must be rats.
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Yeah.
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Where?
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He have any I.D.?
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The victim's name is Hayley
Sanders.
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14, she just got out of school.
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One shot from across the street.
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Anybody seen
the shooter?
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Three kids saw suspicious men
leave different buildings.
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This guy's like a ghost--
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we blanket uptown,
265
00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,403
he moves downtown
for some fresh blood.
266
00:10:44,487 --> 00:10:45,447
Lieutenant!
267
00:10:45,488 --> 00:10:48,033
We found this note
on the roof of 432.
268
00:10:48,158 --> 00:10:50,076
"Me: 4, Police: 0"
269
00:10:50,550 --> 00:10:51,590
At least he knows
how to count.
270
00:10:52,310 --> 00:10:53,550
I want a shrink to see this.
271
00:10:56,310 --> 00:10:57,310
There's something
perplexing
272
00:10:57,630 --> 00:10:58,470
about these notes.
273
00:10:58,590 --> 00:11:00,450
Maybe because they were written by a
lunatic.
274
00:11:00,790 --> 00:11:02,333
Actually, they weren't.
275
00:11:02,430 --> 00:11:03,670
At least, one of them wasn't.
276
00:11:04,310 --> 00:11:07,650
Random killers tend to be one
of a few distinct personalities.
277
00:11:08,190 --> 00:11:09,210
"Someone stop the voices."
278
00:11:09,510 --> 00:11:10,390
That's a
schizophrenic.
279
00:11:10,473 --> 00:11:12,600
But "Me: 4, Police: 0" isn't?
280
00:11:12,725 --> 00:11:13,685
That's a taunt.
281
00:11:14,190 --> 00:11:15,670
Forensics says
the paper
282
00:11:15,910 --> 00:11:17,710
and the printer that he used are
identical,
283
00:11:17,710 --> 00:11:18,970
so it's got to
be the same guy.
284
00:11:19,350 --> 00:11:21,430
The notes are psychologically
incongruous.
285
00:11:21,555 --> 00:11:22,806
Maybe he forgot
286
00:11:22,931 --> 00:11:24,558
he's nuts when
he wrote the second note.
287
00:11:25,270 --> 00:11:26,150
Well, if he's
not crazy,
288
00:11:26,150 --> 00:11:28,569
why would he want us
to think he was?
289
00:11:28,990 --> 00:11:29,950
To throw us off.
290
00:11:30,034 --> 00:11:31,190
Random killers
291
00:11:31,190 --> 00:11:32,450
have no personal motive.
292
00:11:32,750 --> 00:11:33,590
What if
this guy did?
293
00:11:33,990 --> 00:11:35,050
He could be trying
to camouflage
294
00:11:35,310 --> 00:11:36,490
one killing
with a bunch of others.
295
00:11:36,710 --> 00:11:38,295
Well, if that's true,
he'd have to know
296
00:11:38,430 --> 00:11:40,050
where his real victim
was going to be
297
00:11:40,190 --> 00:11:42,130
at a certain time
and certain place.
298
00:11:42,470 --> 00:11:43,763
Look, go back to
the families.
299
00:11:44,110 --> 00:11:46,150
See if any of these victims
had a routine.
300
00:11:46,275 --> 00:11:49,695
Charlie didn't gamble.
301
00:11:51,230 --> 00:11:52,990
Maybe a beer to wash down
some potato chips
302
00:11:53,110 --> 00:11:53,950
during a ball game.
303
00:11:54,710 --> 00:11:56,250
Paid the bills
the same day they came.
304
00:11:57,110 --> 00:11:58,330
He was compulsive like that.
305
00:11:58,590 --> 00:12:00,110
I guess that's why
he was good at his job.
306
00:12:00,870 --> 00:12:02,997
How long was he with the power company?
307
00:12:03,122 --> 00:12:04,540
23 years.
308
00:12:04,710 --> 00:12:06,837
Had he worked at
that site for a while?
309
00:12:07,070 --> 00:12:08,090
For the last
three months.
310
00:12:09,110 --> 00:12:10,470
Was your husband
having any problems
311
00:12:10,790 --> 00:12:12,630
we should know about,
Mrs. Rodriguez?
312
00:12:12,630 --> 00:12:13,672
What kind of problems?
313
00:12:13,750 --> 00:12:15,910
Financial difficulties, trouble at
work?
314
00:12:15,910 --> 00:12:19,210
No. Uh, well,
wait a second.
315
00:12:19,910 --> 00:12:20,750
There's a guy that Charlie
316
00:12:20,830 --> 00:12:21,830
was always
complaining about.
317
00:12:22,070 --> 00:12:23,488
What, they didn't get along?
318
00:12:24,830 --> 00:12:27,250
This jerk...
this jerk had an attitude.
319
00:12:27,990 --> 00:12:29,575
He wouldn't hold up
his end of the work.
320
00:12:29,630 --> 00:12:30,610
Always had to leave early
321
00:12:30,710 --> 00:12:31,690
for one reason
or another.
322
00:12:32,030 --> 00:12:32,870
Did your husband
tell you
323
00:12:32,950 --> 00:12:34,744
this jerk's name?
324
00:12:34,869 --> 00:12:36,829
Capshaw.
325
00:12:36,950 --> 00:12:38,070
He just called him Capshaw.
326
00:12:38,153 --> 00:12:41,198
Thanks.
327
00:12:42,510 --> 00:12:43,350
Herman ain't there.
328
00:12:44,030 --> 00:12:45,198
You know where he is?
329
00:12:45,310 --> 00:12:47,950
Yeah, he's picking up his kid
from school, like always.
330
00:12:47,950 --> 00:12:49,130
Sounds like you
know him pretty well.
331
00:12:49,310 --> 00:12:50,150
Sure, why not?
332
00:12:50,150 --> 00:12:52,030
He moved in the same week
I started here.
333
00:12:52,270 --> 00:12:53,570
Ten years ago
next month.
334
00:12:53,870 --> 00:12:55,110
No problems,
no complaints.
335
00:12:55,193 --> 00:12:56,736
He in trouble?
336
00:12:56,750 --> 00:12:57,590
We'll let you know.
337
00:12:57,790 --> 00:12:58,708
Can I help you?
338
00:12:59,350 --> 00:13:00,685
You Herman Capshaw?
339
00:13:00,810 --> 00:13:01,770
Yeah.
340
00:13:01,770 --> 00:13:02,350
They're cops.
341
00:13:02,350 --> 00:13:03,851
Yeah, thanks.
You can go now.
342
00:13:05,830 --> 00:13:06,670
Uh, we need to ask you
343
00:13:06,670 --> 00:13:08,005
a couple of
questions, Herman.
344
00:13:08,088 --> 00:13:09,089
About what?
345
00:13:09,173 --> 00:13:10,674
Charlie Rodriguez.
346
00:13:12,470 --> 00:13:13,870
Why don't you
go inside, Justin?
347
00:13:13,870 --> 00:13:14,710
Uh, what's going on?
348
00:13:14,710 --> 00:13:16,754
And, uh...
close the door.
349
00:13:16,879 --> 00:13:18,548
Okay.
350
00:13:19,470 --> 00:13:20,888
You mind if we come in?
351
00:13:20,990 --> 00:13:22,430
You know, it's not a good time
for me right now.
352
00:13:23,350 --> 00:13:25,268
Oh? When is a good time?
We'll come back.
353
00:13:25,350 --> 00:13:27,130
We could meet for coffee.
That'd work for me.
354
00:13:28,030 --> 00:13:30,250
There ain't no need to be a smart-ass, Mr.
Capshaw.
355
00:13:31,510 --> 00:13:32,830
Give me your card,
I'll call you tomorrow.
356
00:13:33,110 --> 00:13:34,290
You know, we get that
all the time.
357
00:13:34,430 --> 00:13:36,190
It always seems
to slip people's minds.
358
00:13:36,590 --> 00:13:37,633
Look, I can understand
you don't want
359
00:13:37,950 --> 00:13:39,100
to do this with
your boy around.
360
00:13:39,260 --> 00:13:40,420
So maybe you want to
take a ride with us
361
00:13:40,500 --> 00:13:41,340
down to the precinct?
362
00:13:41,340 --> 00:13:42,508
Am I under arrest, Detective?
363
00:13:42,740 --> 00:13:43,660
Because as far as I know,
364
00:13:43,660 --> 00:13:45,460
I don't have to go with you
unless I'm under arrest.
365
00:13:47,020 --> 00:13:48,647
So, your card?
366
00:13:57,114 --> 00:13:59,908
Herman Capshaw.
367
00:14:00,140 --> 00:14:02,620
39 years old,
not even a parking ticket.
368
00:14:02,980 --> 00:14:04,300
According to the Marines,
369
00:14:04,300 --> 00:14:06,594
he was honorably
discharged in '93.
370
00:14:07,140 --> 00:14:08,700
Served most of his tour
in the Philippines.
371
00:14:09,060 --> 00:14:10,720
So he knows his way
around a rifle.
372
00:14:10,980 --> 00:14:11,820
It gets better.
373
00:14:11,900 --> 00:14:13,240
He got the highest
sharp-shooting rating
374
00:14:13,420 --> 00:14:14,360
the Marines have to offer.
375
00:14:14,580 --> 00:14:15,914
And you didn't pick
him up because...?
376
00:14:16,140 --> 00:14:17,960
He's a stickler for
the Bill of Rights.
377
00:14:18,220 --> 00:14:20,014
Well, get a car
on his residence.
378
00:14:20,060 --> 00:14:20,900
We already did.
379
00:14:20,900 --> 00:14:21,740
If Capshaw's our shooter,
380
00:14:22,220 --> 00:14:23,800
he must be keeping
in game shape.
381
00:14:24,060 --> 00:14:25,280
All the local
target ranges
382
00:14:25,364 --> 00:14:26,657
are too short
for a rifle.
383
00:14:26,980 --> 00:14:30,191
Hey, man, there's a target range
like that out in Armonk.
384
00:14:32,860 --> 00:14:34,111
Herm Capshaw.
Sure, I know him.
385
00:14:34,580 --> 00:14:36,040
He's not a member,
but we're open to the public.
386
00:14:36,260 --> 00:14:37,220
I've seen him
up here a few times.
387
00:14:37,420 --> 00:14:39,130
You remember what he
was shooting with?
388
00:14:39,220 --> 00:14:40,940
Bolt action, high-power,
with a scope.
389
00:14:41,820 --> 00:14:44,156
Would a Remington 700
qualify?
390
00:14:44,281 --> 00:14:45,241
Oh, absolutely.
391
00:14:46,180 --> 00:14:48,599
So, is this the guy
in the city who...?
392
00:14:48,683 --> 00:14:49,643
Uh, probably not,
393
00:14:49,660 --> 00:14:51,720
but we're working our way
down the list.
394
00:14:52,020 --> 00:14:53,140
So, if it turns
out to be him...
395
00:14:53,140 --> 00:14:53,980
Don't worry.
396
00:14:53,980 --> 00:14:55,898
Everything's legal
up in here, right?
397
00:14:56,023 --> 00:14:57,060
Right.
398
00:14:57,060 --> 00:14:59,660
You know, I didn't even think
this guy lived in the city.
399
00:14:59,785 --> 00:15:00,900
How come?
400
00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:03,152
I heard him talking to some guy
at the counter one day,
401
00:15:03,380 --> 00:15:05,180
bragging about a 12-point buck
he took
402
00:15:05,260 --> 00:15:06,800
on some land he's got
up in the Catskills.
403
00:15:11,180 --> 00:15:13,682
Police!
404
00:15:14,500 --> 00:15:15,560
We have a warrant!
405
00:15:54,933 --> 00:15:56,560
Lennie?
406
00:15:59,050 --> 00:16:00,250
Check it--
I'm no expert,
407
00:16:00,250 --> 00:16:01,470
but this looks just
like the one
408
00:16:01,570 --> 00:16:02,770
they pulled
from Hayley Sanders.
409
00:16:02,854 --> 00:16:04,647
Detectives.
410
00:16:06,010 --> 00:16:06,850
This was in the closet.
411
00:16:16,318 --> 00:16:17,569
Dad...
412
00:16:17,694 --> 00:16:18,654
Herman Capshaw...
413
00:16:19,330 --> 00:16:20,414
What do you think
you're doing?
414
00:16:20,570 --> 00:16:22,410
we're arresting you for
the murder of Hayley Sanders...
415
00:16:22,410 --> 00:16:23,250
Who?
416
00:16:23,250 --> 00:16:25,127
Amy Lane, Charlie Rodriguez,
Larry Speiling...
417
00:16:26,330 --> 00:16:27,170
In front of my son.
418
00:16:27,410 --> 00:16:28,250
Where's your mother?
419
00:16:28,250 --> 00:16:29,090
Dead.
420
00:16:29,090 --> 00:16:30,530
You cannot leave him
here alone.
421
00:16:30,730 --> 00:16:32,189
Now, don't worry,
Child Welfare will find
422
00:16:32,450 --> 00:16:33,370
a nice, warm place
for him.
423
00:16:33,370 --> 00:16:34,210
Dad...
424
00:16:34,210 --> 00:16:35,710
Don't worry.
It'll be okay.
425
00:16:36,130 --> 00:16:37,530
Aw, why do you want
to lie to the kid?
426
00:16:37,530 --> 00:16:38,690
You have the right
to remain silent...
427
00:16:38,773 --> 00:16:39,983
Anything you say...
428
00:16:42,569 --> 00:16:43,987
Docket ending 4-7-2.
429
00:16:44,112 --> 00:16:45,446
People v. Herman Joseph
Capshaw.
430
00:16:46,850 --> 00:16:48,390
Four counts of murder
in the first degree.
431
00:16:49,810 --> 00:16:50,870
One more person opens
432
00:16:51,050 --> 00:16:52,870
their mouth, they'll be removed
from my courtroom.
433
00:16:54,650 --> 00:16:55,890
You may speak,
Counselor.
434
00:16:56,210 --> 00:16:57,050
Uh, sorry, Judge.
435
00:16:57,050 --> 00:16:58,150
Kyle Rowen, New York State
436
00:16:58,250 --> 00:17:00,252
Capital Defenders
for Mr. Capshaw.
437
00:17:00,330 --> 00:17:01,410
My client pleads not guilty.
438
00:17:01,410 --> 00:17:02,250
Bail?
439
00:17:02,250 --> 00:17:03,690
Your Honor, the people
ask for remand.
440
00:17:03,850 --> 00:17:05,852
The defendant is charged
with shooting four people,
441
00:17:05,970 --> 00:17:07,070
as well as wreaking terror
442
00:17:07,250 --> 00:17:08,610
and fear on the
entire city.
443
00:17:08,770 --> 00:17:09,610
He's also innocent
444
00:17:09,730 --> 00:17:10,630
until proven guilty.
445
00:17:10,930 --> 00:17:13,050
The murder weapon was found
in Mr. Capshaw's cabin
446
00:17:13,133 --> 00:17:14,134
in the Catskills.
447
00:17:14,210 --> 00:17:16,010
I know you said not to say
anything, Your Honor,
448
00:17:16,010 --> 00:17:16,850
but may I speak?
449
00:17:16,850 --> 00:17:19,290
Sit down! That man killed my daughter.
450
00:17:21,170 --> 00:17:22,990
This isn't the right time,
ma'am.
451
00:17:23,810 --> 00:17:26,590
I'm just asking that you not
release him from jail.
452
00:17:26,715 --> 00:17:27,758
That's all.
453
00:17:28,490 --> 00:17:29,830
He isn't going anywhere, ma'am.
454
00:17:30,490 --> 00:17:31,330
Judge, I object.
455
00:17:31,570 --> 00:17:32,950
I haven't even made
my bail application,
456
00:17:33,170 --> 00:17:34,254
and you've already
made up your mind.
457
00:17:34,379 --> 00:17:35,339
You're right.
458
00:17:35,464 --> 00:17:36,424
Remand.
459
00:17:38,050 --> 00:17:39,790
I had planned on asking you
what it would take
460
00:17:39,850 --> 00:17:41,270
to get the death penalty
off the table.
461
00:17:42,570 --> 00:17:43,988
Only Mr. Capshaw
won't play along?
462
00:17:44,650 --> 00:17:45,790
He's got this one thing
463
00:17:46,730 --> 00:17:47,650
nagging at him: he
says he's innocent.
464
00:17:47,970 --> 00:17:49,250
I did not kill
those people.
465
00:17:49,333 --> 00:17:51,335
The evidence...
466
00:17:51,850 --> 00:17:53,644
What, the rifle?
467
00:17:54,210 --> 00:17:56,295
My cabin was wide open,
all the time.
468
00:17:56,490 --> 00:17:57,630
Anyone could've stolen it.
469
00:17:57,970 --> 00:17:58,930
To kill your boss?
470
00:17:59,130 --> 00:18:00,570
Like I'm the only one
who didn't get along
471
00:18:00,653 --> 00:18:01,821
with Rodriguez?
472
00:18:02,890 --> 00:18:04,890
Everyone at work
knew I had a cabin upstate.
473
00:18:07,930 --> 00:18:09,230
Call us if
anything changes.
474
00:18:13,130 --> 00:18:14,430
What other evidence
do we have
475
00:18:14,530 --> 00:18:15,906
linking him
to the shootings?
476
00:18:16,170 --> 00:18:17,380
You don't actually believe him?
477
00:18:17,930 --> 00:18:19,390
What scares me
are those two little words
478
00:18:19,570 --> 00:18:21,090
that pay a defense
attorney's rent.
479
00:18:21,215 --> 00:18:22,175
"Not guilty"?
480
00:18:22,300 --> 00:18:23,260
"Reasonable doubt."
481
00:18:23,290 --> 00:18:24,208
What about the notes?
482
00:18:24,610 --> 00:18:25,970
They were written
on a computer,
483
00:18:25,970 --> 00:18:27,290
only Capshaw
didn't have one
484
00:18:27,370 --> 00:18:28,530
in his apartment
or cabin.
485
00:18:29,210 --> 00:18:32,213
Those two little words are getting louder
and louder.
486
00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:33,220
I'll talk to Forensics.
487
00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:35,640
So, I contacted
488
00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:36,480
the Secret Service.
489
00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,100
They have the largest
investigative database
490
00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:39,440
of paper and ink
in the world.
491
00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,138
Anyway, the notes
were printed
492
00:18:41,360 --> 00:18:42,380
on an HP Deskjet.
493
00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:44,880
Great. I could've
written them.
494
00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:45,880
I doubt it.
495
00:18:46,424 --> 00:18:47,264
I was joking.
496
00:18:47,264 --> 00:18:48,224
I wasn't.
497
00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:49,840
Even your office
spends more on paper.
498
00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,271
Now, this is not quite
commercial grade.
499
00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,700
It came from a mill
in Lawrence, Massachusetts
500
00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,120
that does not distribute
to retailers.
501
00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:00,686
Their only local contract
502
00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,160
is with the New York
City public schools.
503
00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,871
Now, either Capshaw is
younger than he looks...
504
00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:07,720
...or his son
wrote the notes.
505
00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,240
He's in my third period math class,
506
00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,060
and fifth period
computer science.
507
00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,060
Always does his homework.
Solid B+ student.
508
00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:20,840
What about friends?
509
00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:21,760
I couldn't tell you.
510
00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:23,400
If he had any, I didn't notice.
511
00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,540
The kids team up
for certain projects.
512
00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:27,200
Justin always
worked alone.
513
00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,600
The other kids didn't
want to work with him?
514
00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:30,601
Actually,
I got the feeling
515
00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:31,840
he didn't want
to work with them.
516
00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,842
Uh, right, right here.
517
00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,980
This... This is
where Justin sits.
518
00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:40,900
Do you mind?
519
00:19:41,025 --> 00:19:43,903
No, h-help yourself.
520
00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,446
So, you really think
Justin's dad was the sniper?
521
00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:52,620
There's a good chance.
522
00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,240
It just goes to show you can't
ever tell about people.
523
00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:57,840
He seemed like
one of the good ones.
524
00:19:58,440 --> 00:19:59,940
Never missed a parent-
teacher conference.
525
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,360
Very concerned about
Justin's progress.
526
00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,440
It's all kind of...
depressing.
527
00:20:06,525 --> 00:20:09,194
Thank you.
528
00:20:09,277 --> 00:20:11,446
Jack...
529
00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:13,720
Forensics confirmed that
the notes were written
530
00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,880
on the paper from Justin
Capshaw's school.
531
00:20:17,360 --> 00:20:18,200
This is a copy
532
00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,500
of the first note-- look
at the "I" in "voices."
533
00:20:21,360 --> 00:20:22,200
It's not dotted.
534
00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:23,920
This is what I printed
535
00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:25,540
from Justin's computer
at school.
536
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:27,880
No dot here, either.
537
00:20:29,110 --> 00:20:30,490
Justin had to have
written the notes.
538
00:20:31,790 --> 00:20:32,630
Call Van Buren.
539
00:20:32,693 --> 00:20:34,278
Come on.
540
00:20:34,361 --> 00:20:35,988
We both know what
you're trying to do:
541
00:20:37,110 --> 00:20:38,830
Squeeze the kid to
get to his old man.
542
00:20:39,230 --> 00:20:40,370
You should be ashamed
of yourself.
543
00:20:41,270 --> 00:20:43,450
My dad didn't kill anyone.
544
00:20:44,550 --> 00:20:46,010
You see?
Nothing to squeeze.
545
00:20:46,094 --> 00:20:47,387
Actually, Justin,
546
00:20:48,110 --> 00:20:49,950
we know you helped your father
kill those people.
547
00:20:50,033 --> 00:20:50,993
Hold on.
548
00:20:51,150 --> 00:20:52,985
I am still back on my
client saying his dad
549
00:20:53,190 --> 00:20:54,050
didn't kill anyone.
550
00:20:54,430 --> 00:20:55,730
Then why did your
client write the notes
551
00:20:55,830 --> 00:20:59,334
we found at the scene?
552
00:20:59,950 --> 00:21:00,790
I can help you, Justin.
553
00:21:02,670 --> 00:21:04,670
If all you did
was write those notes,
554
00:21:04,670 --> 00:21:06,390
we can cut a deal right here
and now.
555
00:21:07,350 --> 00:21:09,330
You'd never have to see the inside of a
prison cell.
556
00:21:11,910 --> 00:21:13,390
My dad didn't
shoot those people.
557
00:21:13,790 --> 00:21:14,999
Did your father tell you
to say that?
558
00:21:15,125 --> 00:21:16,960
No.
559
00:21:18,630 --> 00:21:20,466
He didn't kill those people.
560
00:21:22,885 --> 00:21:25,387
I did.
561
00:21:29,870 --> 00:21:33,707
Jack, I think we better
regroup later.
562
00:21:39,270 --> 00:21:40,450
It's been through the lab twice.
563
00:21:40,910 --> 00:21:42,090
Two sets
of prints on the rifle--
564
00:21:42,270 --> 00:21:43,670
Capshaw and
his kid, Justin.
565
00:21:45,190 --> 00:21:46,310
Not what you
wanted to hear.
566
00:21:47,190 --> 00:21:49,630
I was hoping you just
found the father's.
567
00:21:49,630 --> 00:21:50,470
There is one thing.
568
00:21:50,710 --> 00:21:51,961
Does either one
of them wear glasses?
569
00:21:52,086 --> 00:21:53,421
Why?
570
00:21:53,870 --> 00:21:55,350
Because the last person
to shoot this baby
571
00:21:55,470 --> 00:21:56,650
had less than perfect
eyesight.
572
00:21:58,110 --> 00:21:59,150
How can you tell?
573
00:21:59,150 --> 00:22:00,530
The focus adjustment
on the scope.
574
00:22:00,830 --> 00:22:01,670
It's like binoculars.
575
00:22:01,990 --> 00:22:04,270
As you bring the image
in closer, you need to refocus.
576
00:22:04,670 --> 00:22:06,590
If you wear glasses,
you need to take them off
577
00:22:06,830 --> 00:22:08,390
and use the focus
to make the image clear.
578
00:22:08,990 --> 00:22:10,130
I'll take your
word for it.
579
00:22:10,470 --> 00:22:12,514
Okay, well,
the focus adjustment here
580
00:22:12,750 --> 00:22:15,270
was set for someone with vision
in the 2200 range.
581
00:22:15,353 --> 00:22:17,272
Couldn't it
have moved by CSU?
582
00:22:17,750 --> 00:22:19,130
Maybe a little,
but not that much.
583
00:22:19,430 --> 00:22:20,270
And there's one other thing.
584
00:22:20,630 --> 00:22:22,465
The ocular lens, where
you focus the crosshairs,
585
00:22:23,030 --> 00:22:25,330
it was also focused for someone
who'd have to struggle
586
00:22:25,414 --> 00:22:26,957
to see the "E" on the eye chart.
587
00:22:27,150 --> 00:22:29,945
And for this,
you'd need to loosen a ring,
588
00:22:30,070 --> 00:22:32,710
make the adjustment,
and tighten the ring back up.
589
00:22:35,750 --> 00:22:36,750
I don't want
to believe it, either,
590
00:22:36,750 --> 00:22:38,510
but Justin's the only one
that wear's glasses.
591
00:22:40,390 --> 00:22:43,518
Any history
of violent behavior?
592
00:22:43,643 --> 00:22:46,021
No.
593
00:22:46,430 --> 00:22:48,432
Where's Capshaw's
military record?
594
00:22:49,630 --> 00:22:51,990
Let's hope Herman Capshaw
wears contact lenses.
595
00:22:52,510 --> 00:22:53,710
He was a
marksman, Jack.
596
00:22:53,870 --> 00:22:55,310
I'm sure he had
pretty good vision.
597
00:22:55,710 --> 00:22:58,230
A freshman in high school
doesn't just get up one morning
598
00:22:58,230 --> 00:22:59,730
and decide to climb up
on the roof
599
00:22:59,870 --> 00:23:01,250
and mow down
people in the street.
600
00:23:01,375 --> 00:23:04,211
Damn.
601
00:23:04,294 --> 00:23:05,921
Perfect vision?
602
00:23:06,004 --> 00:23:07,172
20/10.
603
00:23:08,270 --> 00:23:09,250
Maybe his
father talked
604
00:23:09,390 --> 00:23:10,230
around the breakfast table
605
00:23:10,310 --> 00:23:12,670
about how he could kill
Rodriguez and get away with it.
606
00:23:13,870 --> 00:23:15,870
How old is Justin Capshaw?
607
00:23:15,870 --> 00:23:16,710
15, why?
608
00:23:16,710 --> 00:23:17,650
Herman Capshaw
was stationed
609
00:23:17,790 --> 00:23:22,205
in the Philippines with his
wife and son from 1987 to 1993.
610
00:23:23,380 --> 00:23:26,560
Their only son
was born there in 1988.
611
00:23:27,700 --> 00:23:28,700
That would make him 15.
612
00:23:29,140 --> 00:23:30,220
That same
wife and son
613
00:23:30,860 --> 00:23:33,680
died in a car crash
in the Philippines in 1993.
614
00:23:37,940 --> 00:23:41,486
You'd be happy to know I believe
you, Justin.
615
00:23:41,660 --> 00:23:43,912
Will you let my dad go now?
616
00:23:43,940 --> 00:23:45,940
I'd be happy to do that
if I knew where he was.
617
00:23:47,100 --> 00:23:49,310
What are you trying
to pull here, Jack?
618
00:23:49,900 --> 00:23:51,740
Herman Capshaw
isn't Justin's father.
619
00:23:51,865 --> 00:23:53,700
Liar.
620
00:23:53,825 --> 00:23:55,118
Herman Capshaw's
621
00:23:55,820 --> 00:23:57,640
only child was named Herbert.
622
00:23:57,900 --> 00:23:58,900
He died in a car crash
623
00:23:58,983 --> 00:23:59,984
in 1993.
624
00:24:00,380 --> 00:24:01,620
And what's that got to do with
the price
625
00:24:01,740 --> 00:24:03,060
of pickles in Park Slope?
626
00:24:03,060 --> 00:24:04,520
If I'm going to charge
your client
627
00:24:04,780 --> 00:24:06,573
with four counts of murder,
628
00:24:07,380 --> 00:24:08,680
it would help to know his name.
629
00:24:09,420 --> 00:24:10,340
He adopted me.
630
00:24:10,620 --> 00:24:12,040
There's no record
of that, Justin.
631
00:24:12,123 --> 00:24:13,124
She's lying.
632
00:24:13,208 --> 00:24:14,500
Okay.
633
00:24:16,380 --> 00:24:17,820
We'll just charge Herman Capshaw
634
00:24:18,620 --> 00:24:20,120
with interference
with parental rights.
635
00:24:20,245 --> 00:24:22,915
No.
636
00:24:23,500 --> 00:24:25,780
My whole family died
when our house burnt down.
637
00:24:30,060 --> 00:24:32,562
Your mom and dad?
638
00:24:34,300 --> 00:24:35,140
And my sister.
639
00:24:36,860 --> 00:24:38,420
Jennie wasn't even
supposed to be there.
640
00:24:38,420 --> 00:24:40,440
She was supposed to be in
horseback riding class.
641
00:24:43,100 --> 00:24:44,160
Herman took me in.
642
00:24:46,380 --> 00:24:47,400
He took care of me.
643
00:24:50,100 --> 00:24:51,460
That's why I shot those people.
644
00:24:53,660 --> 00:24:55,500
Rodriguez was going to fire him.
645
00:24:56,340 --> 00:24:58,120
For once, I got to help him.
646
00:25:00,700 --> 00:25:03,786
What's your real name, son?
647
00:25:04,829 --> 00:25:07,707
Justin Capshaw.
648
00:25:12,340 --> 00:25:15,160
The Marines tell me that Capshaw
has no brothers or sisters.
649
00:25:16,660 --> 00:25:18,920
So he's not crazy Uncle Herman
down in the big city.
650
00:25:19,003 --> 00:25:20,004
Unfortunately, no.
651
00:25:20,490 --> 00:25:21,510
And the police
are checking records
652
00:25:21,690 --> 00:25:23,250
of house fires
with three victims.
653
00:25:23,650 --> 00:25:25,750
Justin's school records show
that he entered kindergarten
654
00:25:25,833 --> 00:25:26,959
in '93.
655
00:25:27,084 --> 00:25:28,252
Capshaw's super
told Briscoe and Green
656
00:25:28,810 --> 00:25:30,170
that's when he moved
into his apartment.
657
00:25:30,730 --> 00:25:32,550
If only we knew where
he lived before that.
658
00:25:32,810 --> 00:25:34,354
We do.
He bought the cabin in '86
659
00:25:34,479 --> 00:25:35,480
before he shipped out.
660
00:25:36,250 --> 00:25:37,250
Does it really make a difference
661
00:25:37,333 --> 00:25:38,835
what Justin's real name is?
662
00:25:39,130 --> 00:25:40,170
It wouldn't
if he'd tell us.
663
00:25:41,210 --> 00:25:42,050
Kid's hiding something.
664
00:25:44,090 --> 00:25:45,810
And I want to know what.
665
00:25:45,810 --> 00:25:47,450
Do you know how many
little towns there are
666
00:25:47,530 --> 00:25:48,406
in the Catskills?
667
00:25:48,530 --> 00:25:49,370
No, but I'd bet
668
00:25:49,370 --> 00:25:51,270
there aren't that many
horseback riding schools.
669
00:25:53,814 --> 00:25:55,274
Look, lady,
670
00:25:56,410 --> 00:25:57,410
this is not the IRS.
671
00:25:57,730 --> 00:25:58,710
I don't keep records.
672
00:25:59,290 --> 00:26:01,042
But you've been here
ten years?
673
00:26:01,125 --> 00:26:02,168
Seventeen.
674
00:26:02,810 --> 00:26:04,450
Is there any chance
you remember a student
675
00:26:04,610 --> 00:26:06,529
of yours named Jennie
who died in a fire?
676
00:26:06,930 --> 00:26:08,530
I've never been
very good with names,
677
00:26:08,530 --> 00:26:10,970
but something like that,
I think I would remember.
678
00:26:11,095 --> 00:26:12,471
Why?
679
00:26:12,730 --> 00:26:13,790
We have a boy
down in the city
680
00:26:13,890 --> 00:26:15,267
who says he had
a sister named Jennie
681
00:26:15,410 --> 00:26:16,494
who took riding lessons,
682
00:26:16,650 --> 00:26:18,170
but I'm sure he's lying,
anyway.
683
00:26:18,295 --> 00:26:19,755
Thanks.
684
00:26:21,210 --> 00:26:25,131
His name wouldn't
be Justin, would it?
685
00:26:25,256 --> 00:26:26,770
Why?
686
00:26:26,770 --> 00:26:28,070
About ten years
back, there was
687
00:26:28,130 --> 00:26:30,170
a Justin Lafferty--
he went missing.
688
00:26:31,090 --> 00:26:32,591
He had a sister, Jennie.
689
00:26:32,716 --> 00:26:33,690
She rode here.
690
00:26:33,690 --> 00:26:34,983
Is this family still around?
691
00:26:35,370 --> 00:26:37,370
Well, what's
left of it, yeah.
692
00:26:37,370 --> 00:26:40,206
Jake, he, uh, had one too many,
then he had a head-on
693
00:26:40,450 --> 00:26:43,030
with a beer truck
going south on the Thruway.
694
00:26:44,650 --> 00:26:48,690
That was maybe a year
after this thing with Justin.
695
00:26:48,690 --> 00:26:50,530
Look, if you're planning
on talking to Meg,
696
00:26:50,530 --> 00:26:51,370
I'd take it slow.
697
00:26:51,530 --> 00:26:54,150
I don't know that she's
gotten over this yet.
698
00:26:55,810 --> 00:26:58,646
So what does a New York City
district attorney want with me?
699
00:26:59,450 --> 00:27:01,330
I just have a few questions,
Mrs. Lafferty.
700
00:27:02,210 --> 00:27:04,690
This is about
that Lloyd Garrison, isn't it?
701
00:27:04,690 --> 00:27:05,930
You know, I always thought...
702
00:27:06,170 --> 00:27:07,010
Stop it, Mom.
703
00:27:07,930 --> 00:27:09,230
Just because
he has long hair...
704
00:27:10,530 --> 00:27:11,790
He's always going
down to the city
705
00:27:11,970 --> 00:27:14,130
for no reason I can think of.
706
00:27:15,250 --> 00:27:17,360
His hair doesn't bother me,
it's the tattoo.
707
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,940
And she expects me to believe
she was at Woodstock.
708
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,020
This doesn't have anything
to do with Lloyd Garrison.
709
00:27:38,742 --> 00:27:40,953
It's Justin.
710
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:52,600
We thought he was...
711
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,380
I can't imagine what you've
been through, Mrs. Lafferty.
712
00:27:56,463 --> 00:27:58,549
Is he...?
713
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,560
Physically, he's fine.
714
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,354
How could he be fine?
715
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,600
Some pervert kept him
locked up for ten years.
716
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,420
There's no evidence
he was abused.
717
00:28:09,545 --> 00:28:10,505
Then why?
718
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,814
What did he want Justin for?
719
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,982
Oh, my God.
720
00:28:32,193 --> 00:28:33,319
Justin...
721
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:36,683
Who is this?
722
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:38,840
It's us, Justin.
723
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,013
Jennie and Mom.
724
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,840
Where's my dad?
725
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,240
Dad died, Justin.
726
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,360
What is she talking about?
727
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:54,200
Your real father.
728
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,880
Herman Capshaw
is my real father.
729
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,040
I don't know these people.
730
00:29:01,417 --> 00:29:02,585
Justin...
731
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,500
I don't know
why you brought me here.
732
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,510
Can I go now?
733
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,480
I want the bastard
who did that to my son dead.
734
00:29:24,531 --> 00:29:25,782
Ten years.
735
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:27,860
I used to sweat when Bobby
736
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,720
went off to summer camp
for six weeks.
737
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:31,520
I don't know what's worse--
738
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:32,540
thinking your kid is dead
739
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,820
or finding him alive
but not recognizing you.
740
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:36,726
Take it from a parent,
741
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:38,720
you prefer them alive
no matter what.
742
00:29:38,804 --> 00:29:39,971
Capshaw's attorney
743
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,360
called again, he wants
to deal on the kidnapping.
744
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:44,480
What are you going to do?
745
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,357
Let him sweat for awhile.
746
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,840
How am I going to prosecute
this kid, Arthur?
747
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:50,740
You're going to remember
748
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,380
the people lying dead
on the street, that's how.
749
00:29:56,425 --> 00:29:58,427
Thank you.
750
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,220
"Notice of Parkman's intent
751
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:03,680
"to assert
an affirmative defense.
752
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,700
Not guilty by reason
of mental defect."
753
00:30:05,783 --> 00:30:08,202
There's a shock.
754
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,510
Why would you think I'm crazy?
755
00:30:13,510 --> 00:30:14,550
I didn't say I did.
756
00:30:15,110 --> 00:30:17,862
Well, you're a
shrink, aren't you?
757
00:30:17,870 --> 00:30:20,590
Your attorney thinks
you may not be responsible
758
00:30:21,070 --> 00:30:22,250
for killing those people.
759
00:30:23,590 --> 00:30:25,801
Because I'm nuts?
760
00:30:27,150 --> 00:30:29,390
Tell me about
Herman Capshaw.
761
00:30:30,950 --> 00:30:31,790
He's the best.
762
00:30:33,213 --> 00:30:34,053
Tell me how.
763
00:30:34,053 --> 00:30:36,431
Okay.
764
00:30:38,110 --> 00:30:39,737
There was this one time,
back in third grade,
765
00:30:39,950 --> 00:30:41,230
these kids were picking on me.
766
00:30:41,470 --> 00:30:42,430
He took care of it.
767
00:30:44,390 --> 00:30:45,558
He hit them?
768
00:30:45,630 --> 00:30:47,130
Come on, we were
in third grade.
769
00:30:48,190 --> 00:30:49,110
He went right to their parents
770
00:30:49,270 --> 00:30:50,930
and told them
to make their kids cut it out.
771
00:30:51,550 --> 00:30:52,635
And they did?
772
00:30:52,870 --> 00:30:53,810
You better believe it.
773
00:30:55,110 --> 00:30:56,710
Dad was always
there like that for me.
774
00:30:57,310 --> 00:30:58,790
He's not your dad, Justin.
775
00:30:58,916 --> 00:31:00,292
Why not?
776
00:31:01,310 --> 00:31:03,110
He took care of me, he fed me,
777
00:31:03,110 --> 00:31:04,290
he bought whatever I needed.
778
00:31:04,590 --> 00:31:07,551
Justin, he took you away
from your real parents.
779
00:31:07,676 --> 00:31:10,513
They're dead.
780
00:31:15,110 --> 00:31:17,710
Dad loves me and I love him.
781
00:31:19,170 --> 00:31:21,547
Justin...
782
00:31:23,390 --> 00:31:25,600
what do you do
when you're not in school?
783
00:31:25,790 --> 00:31:26,666
What do you mean?
784
00:31:26,666 --> 00:31:27,430
Oh, I don't know.
785
00:31:27,430 --> 00:31:29,015
Do you play ball
with your friends?
786
00:31:30,750 --> 00:31:31,590
With my dad.
787
00:31:32,670 --> 00:31:34,590
Do you
go on dates?
788
00:31:34,590 --> 00:31:36,010
Dad says
school's more important.
789
00:31:36,910 --> 00:31:38,787
What about friends?
790
00:31:38,950 --> 00:31:42,161
Dad's all the friends I need.
791
00:31:42,230 --> 00:31:43,770
He does for me and I do for him.
792
00:31:48,070 --> 00:31:50,870
Did he ask you
to kill those people?
793
00:31:50,870 --> 00:31:53,456
How many times
do I have to say it?
794
00:31:53,590 --> 00:31:56,426
Mr. Rodriguez
was going to fire him.
795
00:31:57,590 --> 00:31:58,470
So you killed him.
796
00:31:58,553 --> 00:32:00,597
That's right.
797
00:32:01,070 --> 00:32:03,698
What about the other people?
798
00:32:05,950 --> 00:32:07,710
I tried to throw
the police off track.
799
00:32:08,310 --> 00:32:10,500
I feel bad about what I did,
but I had to do it.
800
00:32:10,625 --> 00:32:12,752
Why?
801
00:32:13,540 --> 00:32:15,700
He's my dad
and he needed my help.
802
00:32:17,952 --> 00:32:19,036
Since Capshaw
803
00:32:19,780 --> 00:32:22,540
was discharged from the Marines,
he's isolated himself.
804
00:32:23,260 --> 00:32:25,480
He's become what we call
an anomic personality.
805
00:32:26,180 --> 00:32:27,480
A man alone in a big city.
806
00:32:28,060 --> 00:32:30,020
Only we're dealing
with the boy here.
807
00:32:30,380 --> 00:32:32,100
Capshaw kept Justin
just as isolated.
808
00:32:33,060 --> 00:32:34,480
He sheltered him
from everything.
809
00:32:35,500 --> 00:32:36,580
And that's bad?
810
00:32:36,580 --> 00:32:38,280
When it extinguishes
all other
811
00:32:38,420 --> 00:32:40,060
human contact, it is.
812
00:32:40,660 --> 00:32:42,412
Did he abuse Justin?
813
00:32:42,495 --> 00:32:43,580
Emotionally, yes.
814
00:32:43,580 --> 00:32:46,720
He induced trauma by telling
him his real family was dead.
815
00:32:47,180 --> 00:32:48,980
The trauma combined
with the isolation
816
00:32:49,420 --> 00:32:51,400
created a relationship
with total dependence.
817
00:32:52,220 --> 00:32:54,460
Herman Capshaw
eases Justin's pain...
818
00:32:54,740 --> 00:32:56,700
And Justin
whacks four innocent people.
819
00:32:56,825 --> 00:32:57,951
To ease Capshaw's pain.
820
00:32:58,780 --> 00:33:00,760
It's a form of
Battered Child Syndrome.
821
00:33:01,620 --> 00:33:04,460
Are you recommending
we stick him in a hospital?
822
00:33:04,460 --> 00:33:07,000
I would,
if he didn't kill anybody.
823
00:33:07,780 --> 00:33:09,220
But when he pulled the trigger,
824
00:33:09,220 --> 00:33:11,040
he knew what
he was doing was wrong
825
00:33:12,180 --> 00:33:14,060
and he chose to do it, anyway.
826
00:33:21,180 --> 00:33:23,020
I've raised Justin like he was my
own son
827
00:33:23,140 --> 00:33:24,320
since he was
five years old.
828
00:33:24,820 --> 00:33:26,530
But he's not your son?
829
00:33:26,613 --> 00:33:28,699
No.
830
00:33:28,740 --> 00:33:30,860
Let's put our cards on the table,
Mr. Capshaw.
831
00:33:31,140 --> 00:33:33,300
You were indicted by the
District Attorney's Office
832
00:33:33,500 --> 00:33:36,100
for kidnapping Justin,
isn't that correct?
833
00:33:36,100 --> 00:33:37,680
Yes. But it's
not like that.
834
00:33:38,300 --> 00:33:41,052
I was a good
father to him.
835
00:33:41,300 --> 00:33:43,260
Did you agree
to plead guilty
836
00:33:43,343 --> 00:33:44,636
to kidnapping,
837
00:33:45,060 --> 00:33:47,380
and, as a part of
that plea agreement,
838
00:33:47,380 --> 00:33:51,384
did you agree
to testify here today?
839
00:33:51,509 --> 00:33:52,844
Yes.
840
00:33:53,580 --> 00:33:55,660
Did you know a Mr. Charles
Rodriguez?
841
00:33:55,660 --> 00:33:56,745
Yes, he was my boss.
842
00:33:56,900 --> 00:33:58,100
And he was about
to fire you,
843
00:33:58,100 --> 00:33:59,101
is that correct?
844
00:33:59,184 --> 00:34:00,220
Yes.
845
00:34:00,220 --> 00:34:01,763
Did you discuss
this with Justin?
846
00:34:03,820 --> 00:34:06,198
Yes, but... he would never...
847
00:34:06,323 --> 00:34:08,784
Yes or no, sir.
848
00:34:08,867 --> 00:34:11,036
Yes.
849
00:34:13,540 --> 00:34:15,792
Did you ever mention to Justin
that you liked the Beatles?
850
00:34:15,876 --> 00:34:17,252
Sure.
851
00:34:17,580 --> 00:34:19,040
What did he do?
852
00:34:19,220 --> 00:34:20,360
He bought me the boxed set.
853
00:34:21,020 --> 00:34:22,897
You never asked him
for it?
854
00:34:22,900 --> 00:34:24,080
I never asked him for anything.
855
00:34:24,205 --> 00:34:25,206
That's nice.
856
00:34:26,780 --> 00:34:29,116
What did you do when Justin
got a C in chemistry?
857
00:34:29,580 --> 00:34:30,420
I told him he'd never
858
00:34:30,460 --> 00:34:32,080
get into a good
college with C's.
859
00:34:32,340 --> 00:34:33,633
What did he do?
860
00:34:33,900 --> 00:34:35,540
He studied his butt off
and got an A.
861
00:34:35,940 --> 00:34:37,500
And that made you happy?
862
00:34:37,500 --> 00:34:38,340
Sure.
863
00:34:38,340 --> 00:34:39,883
He'd do anything
to make you happy,
864
00:34:40,100 --> 00:34:41,220
isn't that correct?
865
00:34:41,220 --> 00:34:42,597
What's going on here?
866
00:34:43,740 --> 00:34:44,620
I was a good father.
867
00:34:45,740 --> 00:34:46,780
Justin does well in school.
868
00:34:46,900 --> 00:34:48,160
He's not on drugs or in a gang.
869
00:34:48,260 --> 00:34:49,480
He's a good kid because of me.
870
00:34:49,660 --> 00:34:51,280
And he owed you big time
for that.
871
00:34:51,540 --> 00:34:53,560
Justin doesn't owe me anything.
I love him.
872
00:34:53,780 --> 00:34:55,100
You'd do anything
for him?
873
00:34:55,100 --> 00:34:55,940
That's right.
874
00:34:55,940 --> 00:34:57,358
And he'd do anything
for you?
875
00:34:57,483 --> 00:34:59,777
Yes.
876
00:34:59,861 --> 00:35:02,447
Nothing further.
877
00:35:07,076 --> 00:35:10,830
Justin may have been abused,
878
00:35:12,250 --> 00:35:13,630
but abuse in and of itself
879
00:35:13,890 --> 00:35:16,930
doesn't negate intent as
defined in the Penal Code.
880
00:35:17,730 --> 00:35:19,110
The abuse in Justin's case
881
00:35:19,290 --> 00:35:20,590
may have affected
his personality
882
00:35:21,010 --> 00:35:22,530
but it certainly
didn't cause
883
00:35:22,650 --> 00:35:25,010
any mental defect
that would've prevented him
884
00:35:25,130 --> 00:35:26,550
from knowing right from wrong.
885
00:35:26,634 --> 00:35:28,052
Abused?
886
00:35:28,370 --> 00:35:30,331
Did Mr. Capshaw
hit the defendant?
887
00:35:30,456 --> 00:35:31,370
No.
888
00:35:31,370 --> 00:35:33,850
But emotional abuse
can be sufficient
889
00:35:34,130 --> 00:35:35,770
to cause Battered
Child Syndrome.
890
00:35:36,090 --> 00:35:37,970
Battered Child Syndrome--
is that the equivalent
891
00:35:38,250 --> 00:35:39,126
of Battered Wife Syndrome,
Doctor?
892
00:35:39,251 --> 00:35:40,460
Yes.
893
00:35:40,610 --> 00:35:41,450
Isn't it true
894
00:35:41,450 --> 00:35:42,690
that Battered Wife Syndrome
895
00:35:42,930 --> 00:35:44,973
is often a valid defense
to a charge of murder?
896
00:35:45,690 --> 00:35:48,710
Of course, but in those cases,
the wife kills the person
897
00:35:48,850 --> 00:35:49,790
who's doing
the battering.
898
00:35:50,410 --> 00:35:52,590
Justin killed
people with whom
899
00:35:52,730 --> 00:35:54,530
he had no personal contact.
900
00:35:59,850 --> 00:36:03,479
Would you say that Justin was
dependent on Herman Capshaw?
901
00:36:03,570 --> 00:36:04,490
He felt he was.
902
00:36:05,850 --> 00:36:08,270
More so than in the normal
father-son relationship?
903
00:36:08,690 --> 00:36:10,350
Because of their
total isolation
904
00:36:10,690 --> 00:36:12,750
from the rest of society,
I'd have to say yes.
905
00:36:13,010 --> 00:36:14,090
So, if something
906
00:36:14,090 --> 00:36:16,301
or someone threatened
the well-being of Mr. Capshaw,
907
00:36:17,370 --> 00:36:18,690
how would
that affect Justin?
908
00:36:18,690 --> 00:36:19,530
It would feel like
909
00:36:19,650 --> 00:36:21,490
a direct threat to him, as well.
910
00:36:21,730 --> 00:36:23,607
And he'd feel compelled
to protect himself?
911
00:36:24,370 --> 00:36:25,210
I couldn't say.
912
00:36:26,250 --> 00:36:29,003
If I pointed a gun at you,
Dr. Olivet,
913
00:36:29,210 --> 00:36:32,463
wouldn't you try to shoot me
before I shot you?
914
00:36:32,546 --> 00:36:33,770
I suppose.
915
00:36:33,770 --> 00:36:34,630
Of course you would.
916
00:36:41,890 --> 00:36:43,725
If you tell anyone
that his family is dead,
917
00:36:44,290 --> 00:36:47,310
that he'll never see them again,
it certainly causes trauma.
918
00:36:47,490 --> 00:36:48,330
And if that someone
919
00:36:48,330 --> 00:36:49,707
is a five-year-old child,
Dr. Diamond,
920
00:36:50,450 --> 00:36:51,610
how would he be affected?
921
00:36:51,610 --> 00:36:52,450
It would be
devastating.
922
00:36:52,890 --> 00:36:54,210
He would attach
himself emotionally
923
00:36:54,450 --> 00:36:56,650
to the next caring person
he came into contact with.
924
00:36:56,890 --> 00:36:57,810
And that's why Justin
925
00:36:58,050 --> 00:37:01,090
became totally dependent
on Mr. Capshaw?
926
00:37:01,090 --> 00:37:03,760
The boy had no
choice but to land
927
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,960
in a symbiotic relationship
with Mr. Capshaw.
928
00:37:06,044 --> 00:37:08,129
You said he had no choice,
Doctor?
929
00:37:08,213 --> 00:37:09,714
That is correct.
930
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,520
He would do whatever it takes
to protect that relationship.
931
00:37:13,645 --> 00:37:14,855
Even kill?
932
00:37:14,980 --> 00:37:16,940
Yes.
933
00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:23,900
You're saying the defendant
had no choice
934
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,797
in the shooting
of Mr. Rodriguez,
935
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:28,600
is that correct?
936
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:29,440
Yes.
937
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:30,733
What about
the other people?
938
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:32,400
I don't know
what you mean.
939
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,020
He killed three other
innocent people.
940
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:40,080
People who were no threat to him
or to Mr. Capshaw.
941
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,251
How do you
explain that?
942
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,760
In his mind,
it was necessary to protect...
943
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:47,600
Please.
944
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,769
He chose to try to get away
with his crime,
945
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,445
isn't that so?
946
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,856
Hey, are you okay?
947
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,180
Some days,
I really don't enjoy my job.
948
00:38:07,263 --> 00:38:09,682
I mean...
949
00:38:11,720 --> 00:38:13,720
my old man was the worst
son of a bitch
950
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,174
you could possibly meet,
951
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,255
but if some nut
had grabbed me up...
952
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,260
I can't say what kind of person
I would've become.
953
00:38:26,346 --> 00:38:28,056
What's this?
954
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:29,520
Crime scene photos.
955
00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:33,097
Hayley Sanders, Amy Lane,
Larry Speiling,
956
00:38:33,180 --> 00:38:34,140
Charlie Rodriguez.
957
00:38:34,265 --> 00:38:35,391
Do you have an appointment?
958
00:38:35,474 --> 00:38:36,434
No, I don't!
959
00:38:36,517 --> 00:38:37,520
Well, miss, I'm sorry--
960
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:38,440
I need to see him!
961
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,100
I need to talk to him.
962
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:41,560
Miss, please, I can't let you in!
963
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:42,960
I just need to talk to him.
964
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:44,000
It's okay, Fred.
965
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,553
How can you do this to us?
966
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,520
Your brother killed four people.
967
00:38:51,720 --> 00:38:52,660
He was a good kid!
968
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,000
A happy kid!
969
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:55,680
He wouldn't have done this
970
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,760
if that lunatic hadn't
taken him from us.
971
00:38:59,070 --> 00:38:59,930
This whole thing...
972
00:39:01,310 --> 00:39:03,010
it turned my father
into a drunk.
973
00:39:04,190 --> 00:39:05,790
It wasn't an accident,
Mr. McCoy.
974
00:39:06,590 --> 00:39:07,470
He killed himself.
975
00:39:08,630 --> 00:39:12,070
My mother has been walking around half-
dead for ten years!
976
00:39:12,630 --> 00:39:15,341
Hasn't my family
suffered enough?!
977
00:39:15,425 --> 00:39:17,510
That's not my call, Jennie.
978
00:39:17,594 --> 00:39:18,830
You bastard.
979
00:39:18,830 --> 00:39:20,470
That freak took him from us!
980
00:39:20,950 --> 00:39:22,930
Now you're doing it
all over again.
981
00:39:35,230 --> 00:39:37,450
You can't get me
to say anything bad about Dad.
982
00:39:38,630 --> 00:39:39,550
I wouldn't think of it.
983
00:39:40,430 --> 00:39:41,810
The man gave you everything.
984
00:39:41,935 --> 00:39:43,510
That's right.
985
00:39:43,510 --> 00:39:45,250
You are what you are today
because of him.
986
00:39:46,150 --> 00:39:47,590
He didn't make me
shoot those people,
987
00:39:47,590 --> 00:39:48,770
if that's what
you're getting at.
988
00:39:49,470 --> 00:39:52,890
But he did teach you
to shoot?
989
00:39:53,190 --> 00:39:55,670
He was rated an expert Marksman
in the Marines.
990
00:39:57,630 --> 00:39:58,790
We went hunting together.
991
00:39:59,390 --> 00:40:00,890
What did Mr. Capshaw
tell you
992
00:40:01,070 --> 00:40:02,405
about Charlie Rodriguez?
993
00:40:02,830 --> 00:40:03,810
He said he
was a jerk.
994
00:40:04,710 --> 00:40:06,070
He was always
picking on Dad.
995
00:40:06,550 --> 00:40:08,970
But Dad couldn't do anything because
Charlie was the boss.
996
00:40:09,470 --> 00:40:13,182
Was "Dad" worried
about losing his job?
997
00:40:13,710 --> 00:40:15,510
He said they went over-budget
on the site.
998
00:40:17,910 --> 00:40:18,890
Somebody had to go.
999
00:40:20,230 --> 00:40:21,670
He knew Charlie would pick him.
1000
00:40:22,110 --> 00:40:23,350
And then
what would happen?
1001
00:40:23,350 --> 00:40:24,570
We'd end up
without money
1002
00:40:24,870 --> 00:40:26,530
or food or
a place to live.
1003
00:40:26,950 --> 00:40:30,830
And that's why you shot
Charlie Rodriguez?
1004
00:40:30,830 --> 00:40:32,490
Dad worked hard his whole life.
1005
00:40:34,790 --> 00:40:36,450
This jerk was going to ruin him.
1006
00:40:37,350 --> 00:40:39,750
And you couldn't let
that happen?
1007
00:40:39,750 --> 00:40:40,590
I love him.
1008
00:40:42,990 --> 00:40:43,830
He loves me.
1009
00:40:44,588 --> 00:40:47,758
Thank you.
1010
00:40:54,310 --> 00:40:55,530
Tell me about Amy Lane.
1011
00:40:55,655 --> 00:40:58,450
Who?
1012
00:40:58,790 --> 00:41:00,370
She's the first person
you killed.
1013
00:41:05,310 --> 00:41:06,210
I... I didn't know her.
1014
00:41:06,293 --> 00:41:07,419
Nice lady.
1015
00:41:08,230 --> 00:41:11,350
She had a daughter...
just eight months old.
1016
00:41:13,550 --> 00:41:14,750
How about
Larry Speiling?
1017
00:41:14,750 --> 00:41:15,950
We get counsel's point,
1018
00:41:15,950 --> 00:41:16,790
Your Honor.
1019
00:41:16,790 --> 00:41:18,150
The defense is willing
to stipulate
1020
00:41:18,430 --> 00:41:20,730
the defendant shot three people
at random.
1021
00:41:21,150 --> 00:41:22,250
Move on, Mr. McCoy.
1022
00:41:26,030 --> 00:41:27,590
What's the worst thing
that could've happened
1023
00:41:27,790 --> 00:41:30,251
if Charlie Rodriguez
had fired Mr. Capshaw?
1024
00:41:30,270 --> 00:41:31,330
We could end
up homeless.
1025
00:41:32,670 --> 00:41:34,470
The government could come
and take me away.
1026
00:41:34,750 --> 00:41:36,430
And that scared you?
1027
00:41:36,430 --> 00:41:37,270
Yes!
1028
00:41:37,270 --> 00:41:38,830
So you didn't shoot
Charlie Rodriguez
1029
00:41:39,150 --> 00:41:40,210
to help Mr. Capshaw.
1030
00:41:40,710 --> 00:41:41,670
You did it for yourself!
1031
00:41:42,754 --> 00:41:44,750
Huh?
1032
00:41:44,750 --> 00:41:48,950
Your attorney has been arguing that you
shot these people
1033
00:41:49,190 --> 00:41:52,390
out of some compulsion
to protect Mr. Capshaw.
1034
00:41:52,990 --> 00:41:54,120
But the truth is
1035
00:41:54,300 --> 00:41:57,011
you were only thinking
about yourself, isn't that so?
1036
00:41:57,136 --> 00:41:59,972
No!
1037
00:42:01,500 --> 00:42:02,840
Dad would come and get me.
1038
00:42:04,900 --> 00:42:05,740
We're a family.
1039
00:42:08,500 --> 00:42:09,360
Not like them.
1040
00:42:15,940 --> 00:42:16,800
He loves me.
1041
00:42:19,100 --> 00:42:20,240
He would come and get me.
1042
00:42:35,780 --> 00:42:37,407
Have you reached a verdict?
1043
00:42:37,490 --> 00:42:38,860
We have.
1044
00:42:38,860 --> 00:42:40,340
How do you find?
1045
00:42:40,340 --> 00:42:42,134
We find the defendant,
Justin Lafferty,
1046
00:42:42,740 --> 00:42:44,760
not guilty
by reason of mental defect.
1047
00:43:11,620 --> 00:43:13,620
The jury basically blamed
Capshaw for the murders.
1048
00:43:13,620 --> 00:43:15,664
I mean, he did put the
proverbial loaded rifle
1049
00:43:16,260 --> 00:43:17,920
in Justin's hand
and cock the hammer.
1050
00:43:18,220 --> 00:43:20,140
You don't actually think
the jury did the right thing.
1051
00:43:20,380 --> 00:43:22,040
Why not? The kid's
as much a victim as...
1052
00:43:22,180 --> 00:43:24,160
Please don't say
the four dead people.
1053
00:43:24,244 --> 00:43:25,245
Thank you.
1054
00:43:25,380 --> 00:43:27,440
On my watch, someone points
a rifle at a crowd
1055
00:43:27,540 --> 00:43:29,166
and pulls the trigger,
at a minimum,
1056
00:43:29,620 --> 00:43:32,164
gets to spend the rest
of his life in gray pajamas,
1057
00:43:32,300 --> 00:43:34,000
not being coddled
by a phalanx
1058
00:43:34,340 --> 00:43:37,560
of white coats trying to fix
the poor misguided soul.
1059
00:43:37,780 --> 00:43:39,340
I never thought of a
state mental institution
1060
00:43:39,466 --> 00:43:40,550
as a place to be coddled.
1061
00:43:40,675 --> 00:43:41,885
It ain't Attica.
1062
00:43:42,300 --> 00:43:44,845
There's always a chance Justin
can be rehabilitated, Arthur.
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00:43:44,970 --> 00:43:47,347
Four dead?
1064
00:43:47,940 --> 00:43:49,340
I don't think he's
earned that chance.
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00:43:50,490 --> 00:43:52,450
And I also think
my senior prosecutor
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00:43:52,770 --> 00:43:54,230
should agree with that.
1067
00:43:54,355 --> 00:43:56,274
I do.
1068
00:43:58,359 --> 00:43:59,736
But...
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00:43:59,973 --> 00:44:00,813
I'm a father.
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