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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,280 --> 00:00:03,200 the people are represented the people are represented 2 00:00:03,242 --> 00:00:05,870 by two separate yet equally important groups: 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:07,680 the police, who investigate crime 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,280 and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:11,840 These are their stories. 6 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:14,400 It was a horror show. 7 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,040 According to her mother, I give Jodi a "B" 8 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,948 I only ruin her life, I spoil a perfect 4.0 9 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:20,540 and her chances of getting into Princeton. 10 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,140 That kid has no chance of getting into Princeton. 11 00:00:23,182 --> 00:00:24,475 None, zero. 12 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:25,960 She's a drone. 13 00:00:26,080 --> 00:00:27,060 You tell her mother that. 14 00:00:27,101 --> 00:00:28,240 So, what are you going to do? 15 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:29,800 The honorable thing-- change it to an "A." 16 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:33,379 Oh, my God. 17 00:00:33,421 --> 00:00:34,923 The cafeteria. 18 00:00:36,049 --> 00:00:38,134 He's got a gun! 19 00:00:38,176 --> 00:00:39,844 Get down! 20 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,920 A couple of the kids said he was small. 21 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:46,420 Others said he was average. 22 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:48,940 He ran out through the kitchen 23 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:50,000 into the street. 24 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,480 He was dressed in black, looked like one of those... 25 00:00:54,102 --> 00:00:54,942 you know, in the movies. 26 00:00:54,942 --> 00:00:56,080 Ninjas? 27 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:56,920 Ninjas, right. 28 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,339 Is there any chance anybody recognized him? 29 00:00:59,610 --> 00:01:00,990 He had a stocking or something 30 00:01:01,250 --> 00:01:02,090 covering his face. 31 00:01:03,450 --> 00:01:06,610 Okay, thanks. We'll be in touch. 32 00:01:06,610 --> 00:01:08,190 Crouching tiger, hidden student. 33 00:01:08,970 --> 00:01:10,570 We've got three dead, 12 wounded 34 00:01:10,730 --> 00:01:12,566 including one critical-- head shot. 35 00:01:12,690 --> 00:01:15,530 We probably won't have much luck with prints on the shell casings. 36 00:01:15,970 --> 00:01:16,850 The kid gets away. 37 00:01:17,130 --> 00:01:18,690 You ever hear of that happening before? 38 00:01:18,690 --> 00:01:20,710 No. They either shoot themselves or they surrender 39 00:01:20,930 --> 00:01:22,890 or somebody tackles them when they stop to reload. 40 00:01:23,250 --> 00:01:24,090 No heroes at George Mason High. 41 00:01:24,930 --> 00:01:26,170 These are city kids. They know better. 42 00:01:26,211 --> 00:01:28,088 Yeah. Green. 43 00:01:28,130 --> 00:01:29,882 Uh, okay. 44 00:01:29,923 --> 00:01:31,133 Thanks. 45 00:01:33,330 --> 00:01:35,010 Head shot died en route to the hospital. 46 00:01:35,010 --> 00:01:35,850 That's four dead. 47 00:01:36,210 --> 00:01:37,270 Ever seen one of these mass shootings 48 00:01:37,450 --> 00:01:38,493 in a big city school? 49 00:01:38,970 --> 00:01:40,010 People move into the city 50 00:01:40,170 --> 00:01:41,710 to get away from crimes like this. 51 00:01:45,047 --> 00:01:49,468 [Captioning sponsored by STUDIOS USA TELEVISION 52 00:01:49,509 --> 00:01:53,805 and NBC] 53 00:02:35,580 --> 00:02:37,280 I was just talking to my friend. 54 00:02:37,322 --> 00:02:38,573 Who's that? 55 00:02:38,615 --> 00:02:39,783 Sorry, Emily. 56 00:02:40,620 --> 00:02:42,540 And I looked up, and there he was. 57 00:02:43,180 --> 00:02:44,960 He was just standing there! 58 00:02:46,020 --> 00:02:48,560 Like he was waiting for someone to notice him or something! 59 00:02:49,740 --> 00:02:51,867 Like some kind of weak-ass ninja, right? 60 00:02:52,100 --> 00:02:53,160 Then I started to laugh. 61 00:02:53,201 --> 00:02:54,202 You started to laugh? 62 00:02:55,020 --> 00:02:56,380 I mean, he looked completely wack. 63 00:02:56,900 --> 00:02:59,020 I'm like, "What is this, Halloween?" 64 00:02:59,020 --> 00:03:00,200 And then he pulled out the gun. 65 00:03:00,900 --> 00:03:01,940 He just started shooting 66 00:03:02,260 --> 00:03:05,320 and I'm frozen, and it's like this weird pause. 67 00:03:05,940 --> 00:03:07,000 No one knows what's happening. 68 00:03:07,660 --> 00:03:09,420 And finally people start screaming. 69 00:03:10,420 --> 00:03:12,200 And then he reloads, he starts shooting again. 70 00:03:12,620 --> 00:03:14,700 Was he targeting anybody, could you tell? 71 00:03:14,700 --> 00:03:16,680 Like zeroing in on any individuals 72 00:03:16,722 --> 00:03:18,307 groups? 73 00:03:18,540 --> 00:03:19,380 I don't know. 74 00:03:19,860 --> 00:03:21,020 I couldn't help it. 75 00:03:21,220 --> 00:03:24,700 I saw this ninja and Howard just popped into my mind. 76 00:03:25,260 --> 00:03:27,095 Why did he pop into your head? 77 00:03:27,137 --> 00:03:28,580 I don't know. 78 00:03:28,580 --> 00:03:31,060 Howard was always a little obsessed with that stuff. 79 00:03:31,060 --> 00:03:34,300 You know, guns, kung fu, all that. 80 00:03:35,700 --> 00:03:36,680 I even heard him say something 81 00:03:36,820 --> 00:03:38,020 about Columbine once. 82 00:03:38,062 --> 00:03:39,022 Really? 83 00:03:39,064 --> 00:03:40,900 What'd he say? 84 00:03:40,900 --> 00:03:42,260 Just that those guys were stupid 85 00:03:42,260 --> 00:03:43,100 for killing themselves. 86 00:03:44,940 --> 00:03:46,691 Was Howard in school today? 87 00:03:46,733 --> 00:03:47,700 No. 88 00:03:47,700 --> 00:03:50,860 But you know, after, like after I thought about it 89 00:03:51,540 --> 00:03:52,820 it just didn't make sense. 90 00:03:52,862 --> 00:03:54,697 How come? 91 00:03:54,739 --> 00:03:57,200 Howard's black. 92 00:04:02,750 --> 00:04:03,810 It's the same story with me 93 00:04:03,870 --> 00:04:05,490 except this one girl came up with a name-- 94 00:04:05,531 --> 00:04:06,699 Howard Earl. 95 00:04:07,030 --> 00:04:08,730 I sent a unit over to his apartment 96 00:04:09,030 --> 00:04:10,030 just in case she's right. 97 00:04:10,590 --> 00:04:11,790 What's going on over here? 98 00:04:11,790 --> 00:04:12,910 No, no, no. He's got the whole thing. 99 00:04:12,910 --> 00:04:14,150 It's definitely prime time. 100 00:04:14,230 --> 00:04:15,430 Just tell me how high I can go 101 00:04:15,510 --> 00:04:17,030 for an exclusive window, all right? 102 00:04:17,030 --> 00:04:17,870 Hey, excuse you. 103 00:04:17,870 --> 00:04:18,970 Auction's over, kid. 104 00:04:19,012 --> 00:04:19,972 What? 105 00:04:20,013 --> 00:04:21,510 We're detectives. This is evidence. 106 00:04:21,510 --> 00:04:22,428 What's your name? 107 00:04:22,469 --> 00:04:23,470 Kevin Miller. 108 00:04:23,630 --> 00:04:25,006 You got this on videotape? 109 00:04:25,048 --> 00:04:26,008 Yeah, I got it all. 110 00:04:26,430 --> 00:04:27,790 Look, when can I get my tape back? 111 00:04:27,790 --> 00:04:28,630 Oh, don't worry. 112 00:04:28,630 --> 00:04:31,030 These vultures will still want it anytime, trust me. 113 00:04:31,230 --> 00:04:32,310 I don't care about the money. 114 00:04:32,350 --> 00:04:33,190 Yeah, right. 115 00:04:33,190 --> 00:04:34,690 Really. This could be my big break. 116 00:04:34,990 --> 00:04:36,157 What are you talking about? 117 00:04:36,470 --> 00:04:37,630 I want to be in the news business. 118 00:04:37,672 --> 00:04:39,715 No comment. 119 00:04:43,950 --> 00:04:47,490 He's got a gun! Get down! Get down! 120 00:04:57,917 --> 00:04:59,961 He's reloading. 121 00:05:26,904 --> 00:05:29,657 No one's going to be able to ID him. 122 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,020 Ed's got a candidate. 123 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,228 Yeah, Howard Earl. 124 00:05:35,270 --> 00:05:36,230 He's black. 125 00:05:36,280 --> 00:05:37,900 Classmate says that he's small 126 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,200 he has an attitude, he's obsessed with guns 127 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:41,880 and he even talked about Columbine. 128 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,200 What are you doing to locate him? 129 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,369 Well, we've got uniforms on his building 130 00:05:46,840 --> 00:05:47,780 at the pizza place 131 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:49,540 and a couple other neighborhood hangouts 132 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:50,600 where he lives. 133 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,070 Find out whatever you can about him. 134 00:05:54,730 --> 00:05:56,630 Spotty attendance, failing grades 135 00:05:56,970 --> 00:05:58,850 suspended three times in the last year... 136 00:05:59,410 --> 00:06:01,290 once for bringing a concealed weapon to school. 137 00:06:01,332 --> 00:06:02,250 A weapon? 138 00:06:02,250 --> 00:06:03,090 a box cutter. 139 00:06:03,170 --> 00:06:04,046 Did he use it? 140 00:06:04,090 --> 00:06:06,217 No, but he brandished it in the lunch room. 141 00:06:06,650 --> 00:06:08,850 We get the impression that's he's not very popular-- 142 00:06:09,130 --> 00:06:10,423 that other kids pick on him? 143 00:06:11,410 --> 00:06:13,870 Detectives, we have 3,000 students 144 00:06:13,890 --> 00:06:14,890 enrolled in this school 145 00:06:15,610 --> 00:06:16,690 from every walk of life. 146 00:06:16,730 --> 00:06:17,570 All I can tell you 147 00:06:17,570 --> 00:06:19,910 is he's not involved in any extracurricular activities. 148 00:06:20,250 --> 00:06:21,610 No sports, no after school. 149 00:06:21,890 --> 00:06:23,517 Did anybody reach his parents? 150 00:06:23,810 --> 00:06:24,650 No father listed. 151 00:06:24,810 --> 00:06:25,650 He lives with his grandmother 152 00:06:25,850 --> 00:06:26,850 at the address they gave you. 153 00:06:26,891 --> 00:06:27,851 Where's his mother? 154 00:06:27,893 --> 00:06:28,935 Prison. 155 00:06:28,977 --> 00:06:30,020 For what? 156 00:06:30,062 --> 00:06:31,938 Aggravated assault. 157 00:06:38,770 --> 00:06:40,250 Guy's name is Lonnie Nolan. 158 00:06:40,650 --> 00:06:42,210 Claims he saw Earl a few hours ago. 159 00:06:42,251 --> 00:06:43,628 Mr. Nolan? 160 00:06:44,850 --> 00:06:45,810 Where was it you saw Earl? 161 00:06:46,570 --> 00:06:48,210 Coming out of this deli over on Broadway Terrace. 162 00:06:48,450 --> 00:06:49,701 You sure it was him? 163 00:06:49,743 --> 00:06:50,953 Am I sure? 164 00:06:50,980 --> 00:06:51,820 His mother and me used to run together 165 00:06:51,820 --> 00:06:53,200 back in the day, until she went crazy. 166 00:06:53,241 --> 00:06:54,201 Crazy? 167 00:06:54,243 --> 00:06:55,703 Yeah. 168 00:06:58,900 --> 00:07:00,040 Cut this other bitch. 169 00:07:01,300 --> 00:07:02,340 Coked up out of her head. 170 00:07:02,700 --> 00:07:04,060 Next thing I know, there's all this blood. 171 00:07:04,900 --> 00:07:06,160 Familiar family saga. 172 00:07:06,420 --> 00:07:07,780 What was Earl wearing? 173 00:07:07,780 --> 00:07:09,980 Black sweatshirt, maybe dark pants-- 174 00:07:10,022 --> 00:07:11,106 black bandanna. 175 00:07:11,148 --> 00:07:12,733 Could you call it in? 176 00:07:13,020 --> 00:07:13,860 What's Howard done? 177 00:07:14,460 --> 00:07:15,780 We're not sure yet, Mr. Nolan. 178 00:07:16,300 --> 00:07:18,677 Listen, man, I ain't going to lie to you. 179 00:07:18,719 --> 00:07:19,580 That boy scares me. 180 00:07:19,580 --> 00:07:21,160 I see him coming, I just cross the street. 181 00:07:23,460 --> 00:07:25,860 I've been thinking a lot about this Earl thing 182 00:07:26,420 --> 00:07:28,160 and it just doesn't track for me. 183 00:07:28,540 --> 00:07:30,500 Since when do these things ever track? 184 00:07:30,660 --> 00:07:31,500 Well, it's just 185 00:07:31,500 --> 00:07:33,840 a black kid doing a school shooting like this 186 00:07:33,980 --> 00:07:35,020 doesn't fit the profile. 187 00:07:35,460 --> 00:07:36,919 Drugs, sneakers, gangs-- 188 00:07:38,820 --> 00:07:39,660 that I'll buy. 189 00:07:40,100 --> 00:07:43,145 But a black kid shooting up a lunch room. 190 00:07:43,460 --> 00:07:46,129 Maybe we've finally reached full equality. 191 00:07:46,140 --> 00:07:48,684 Well, did he talk about his plans to anyone? 192 00:07:48,860 --> 00:07:49,861 Brag about them? 193 00:07:50,470 --> 00:07:52,050 If he did, we didn't find them. 194 00:07:53,030 --> 00:07:56,117 So, we've got a 16-year-old kid boiling with rage 195 00:07:56,670 --> 00:07:59,730 planning this fantastic revenge scenario 196 00:08:00,550 --> 00:08:01,790 and he doesn't talk to anyone. 197 00:08:03,430 --> 00:08:05,870 Guys, we've got another sighting. 198 00:08:05,870 --> 00:08:08,498 Remember, this is a sit-down only. 199 00:08:08,670 --> 00:08:10,750 So, bring the grandmother along 200 00:08:10,750 --> 00:08:13,410 and make sure both of them know what his rights are. 201 00:08:18,230 --> 00:08:19,070 How you doing? 202 00:08:19,070 --> 00:08:20,730 Okay. Kid fitting that description 203 00:08:20,950 --> 00:08:22,390 went in that building 20 minutes ago. 204 00:08:22,790 --> 00:08:23,930 Figured I'd better wait for you guys. 205 00:08:23,972 --> 00:08:24,932 Thanks, officer. 206 00:08:25,870 --> 00:08:26,710 This is him. 207 00:08:29,030 --> 00:08:29,930 I hate when they do that. 208 00:08:29,930 --> 00:08:30,550 I got him! 209 00:08:30,550 --> 00:08:31,590 Get the car! Cut him off! 210 00:08:53,695 --> 00:08:56,615 Come here! Come here! Come here! 211 00:09:01,590 --> 00:09:02,510 All right, All right. 212 00:09:02,552 --> 00:09:03,512 You okay? 213 00:09:03,554 --> 00:09:04,830 I'm good. 214 00:09:04,830 --> 00:09:06,749 Ripped a new shoe. 215 00:09:09,732 --> 00:09:10,572 We got company. 216 00:09:10,572 --> 00:09:11,906 I see them. 217 00:09:12,150 --> 00:09:13,510 Come on, move them back, officer 218 00:09:13,870 --> 00:09:14,710 Come on, out of the way. 219 00:09:14,710 --> 00:09:15,650 Come on, you heard him. 220 00:09:15,692 --> 00:09:17,319 Watch your head. 221 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:18,862 Get in there. 222 00:09:23,430 --> 00:09:25,290 One of my ex-wives called this morning 223 00:09:25,470 --> 00:09:26,310 to bust my chops. 224 00:09:26,352 --> 00:09:27,353 Which one? 225 00:09:27,395 --> 00:09:28,355 I forget. 226 00:09:29,550 --> 00:09:31,250 He really does look like he's eight years old. 227 00:09:32,270 --> 00:09:34,350 I thought you were just going to talk to this boy. 228 00:09:34,590 --> 00:09:35,630 The kid had other plans. 229 00:09:35,950 --> 00:09:36,790 Where's his grandmother? 230 00:09:37,270 --> 00:09:38,450 She refused to come down. 231 00:09:38,750 --> 00:09:41,128 Yeah, she's probably scared out of her wits. 232 00:09:41,630 --> 00:09:42,670 Hey, how were we supposed to know 233 00:09:42,670 --> 00:09:43,830 there was going to be a photographer 234 00:09:44,230 --> 00:09:45,270 staking out the scene? 235 00:09:45,270 --> 00:09:46,896 Well, the kid that told you about him 236 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:48,260 obviously told the press. 237 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,080 It was only a matter of time before they tracked him... down. 238 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,280 Has he even had breakfast yet? 239 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,440 He won't eat, and he said he won't talk 240 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:00,620 until his lawyer shows up. 241 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:02,280 When is that supposed to be? 242 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:03,160 Well, well, well. 243 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:04,520 What have we here? 244 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,563 Conspiracy to obstruct justice? 245 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:08,000 Speak of the devil. 246 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,000 You're representing Howard Earl? 247 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,260 I am, and I plan 248 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,340 to bring a multimillion-dollar suit against the city 249 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,000 the NYPD and the three of you as individuals, just as soon 250 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:18,160 as this case is dismissed. 251 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,140 Your client ran, Miss Adams. 252 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:23,420 Maybe it had something to do 253 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:24,880 with black kids being afraid of cops 254 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:25,840 and y'all don't look 255 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,360 exactly like the prize patrol. 256 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,343 Okay, just do what you got to do. 257 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:31,980 Should have checked his alibi, officers. 258 00:10:32,560 --> 00:10:33,440 He was with his grandmother. 259 00:10:33,482 --> 00:10:34,442 My grandmother 260 00:10:34,680 --> 00:10:35,620 would swear I was the Pope 261 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,200 if she thought it would keep me out of trouble. 262 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,600 They were visiting Howard's mother up at Bedford Hills 263 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:41,820 at the time of the shootings. 264 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,400 He was literally under lock and key. 265 00:10:45,650 --> 00:10:47,750 I'll have the prison fax you the sign-in sheet. 266 00:10:49,890 --> 00:10:51,510 I'd like to get my client now, please. 267 00:10:52,530 --> 00:10:53,690 I'm taking him out to breakfast. 268 00:10:59,290 --> 00:11:00,290 We're checking on anybody 269 00:11:00,530 --> 00:11:01,550 who was absent yesterday. 270 00:11:01,592 --> 00:11:02,593 Understand. 271 00:11:03,170 --> 00:11:04,296 What kind of gun was used? 272 00:11:04,330 --> 00:11:05,331 A nine millimeter. Why? 273 00:11:05,930 --> 00:11:08,349 Nobody got a look at the shooter's face, right? 274 00:11:08,391 --> 00:11:09,250 Right. 275 00:11:09,250 --> 00:11:10,850 Sure he didn't say a word? 276 00:11:10,850 --> 00:11:12,290 What's your point? 277 00:11:12,290 --> 00:11:13,374 What about a girl? 278 00:11:13,730 --> 00:11:15,565 A girl can handle a gun, right? 279 00:11:17,730 --> 00:11:19,150 She transferred here a month ago. 280 00:11:19,150 --> 00:11:20,526 Colleen Jacobs. 281 00:11:21,370 --> 00:11:22,870 She'd been harassed at her old school. 282 00:11:23,810 --> 00:11:25,110 Her classmates there heard her say 283 00:11:25,170 --> 00:11:27,290 that she'd like to kill everybody who teased her 284 00:11:27,370 --> 00:11:28,210 and then herself. 285 00:11:28,490 --> 00:11:30,367 Why wasn't something done about it? 286 00:11:30,410 --> 00:11:31,290 Something was done. 287 00:11:31,610 --> 00:11:32,570 They transferred her here. 288 00:11:33,890 --> 00:11:35,510 So much for a desperate cry for help. 289 00:11:35,730 --> 00:11:37,106 They transferred her here and...? 290 00:11:37,690 --> 00:11:39,030 She wasn't making a good adjustment. 291 00:11:39,610 --> 00:11:40,750 She's been out the whole week. 292 00:11:41,050 --> 00:11:43,070 I was just about to sic the truant officer on her. 293 00:11:43,112 --> 00:11:44,447 Mrs. Jacobs 294 00:11:45,900 --> 00:11:47,540 we checked with your daughter's school. 295 00:11:47,980 --> 00:11:49,240 She hasn't been there all week. 296 00:11:49,580 --> 00:11:51,415 Oh, no, no, not George Mason. 297 00:11:51,620 --> 00:11:54,206 No, we started her at Catholic school last week. 298 00:11:54,820 --> 00:11:56,340 Thank God, otherwise she would have been 299 00:11:56,340 --> 00:11:57,300 there yesterday. 300 00:11:57,660 --> 00:11:59,480 The high school doesn't seem to know about this. 301 00:12:01,060 --> 00:12:03,479 Well, they obviously don't know much, detective. 302 00:12:03,980 --> 00:12:07,140 I-I phoned them, I wrote them, I told them Colleen was leaving. 303 00:12:09,017 --> 00:12:10,101 Colleen, honey. 304 00:12:11,660 --> 00:12:13,220 These men are homicide detectives. 305 00:12:17,420 --> 00:12:19,422 You think I did it, don't you? 306 00:12:20,020 --> 00:12:21,320 You think I shot those kids. 307 00:12:21,362 --> 00:12:24,239 Did you? 308 00:12:25,140 --> 00:12:26,040 I wish I had. 309 00:12:26,340 --> 00:12:27,580 Oh, honey, don't say that. 310 00:12:27,580 --> 00:12:28,920 They're all jerks at that school. 311 00:12:29,140 --> 00:12:29,980 I hate them. 312 00:12:30,100 --> 00:12:30,940 You don't mean that. 313 00:12:31,060 --> 00:12:32,140 But if I had done it 314 00:12:32,180 --> 00:12:34,020 I wouldn't have wussed out and worn a mask. 315 00:12:34,540 --> 00:12:36,300 I would have wanted everyone to know it was me. 316 00:12:37,220 --> 00:12:38,420 Then maybe they would have gotten it 317 00:12:38,460 --> 00:12:40,440 and they would have felt bad for the rest of their lives. 318 00:12:46,710 --> 00:12:48,030 She doesn't know what she's saying. 319 00:12:48,072 --> 00:12:50,824 She's depressed. 320 00:12:51,870 --> 00:12:53,150 Well, we're going to have to check 321 00:12:53,150 --> 00:12:54,090 with her new school. 322 00:12:57,430 --> 00:13:00,892 It happened at lunchtime, right? The shooting? 323 00:13:00,892 --> 00:13:02,936 Yeah, it was about 12:30. 324 00:13:04,590 --> 00:13:05,790 Colleen was in therapy. 325 00:13:06,833 --> 00:13:07,876 Excuse me. 326 00:13:09,794 --> 00:13:10,795 Yeah, Green. 327 00:13:15,590 --> 00:13:17,133 So what do we have here? 328 00:13:17,190 --> 00:13:19,442 Brian got this e-mail. 329 00:13:19,910 --> 00:13:20,990 When'd you get this? 330 00:13:20,990 --> 00:13:21,830 A couple of hours ago. 331 00:13:22,830 --> 00:13:23,748 Who's it from? 332 00:13:24,030 --> 00:13:25,190 Calls himself Ninja Nightmare. 333 00:13:25,750 --> 00:13:27,470 Why'd he send it to you? 334 00:13:27,470 --> 00:13:28,310 I don't know. 335 00:13:29,270 --> 00:13:31,230 Brian's a Student Council president. 336 00:13:31,272 --> 00:13:32,950 Look, it says he's coming back 337 00:13:32,950 --> 00:13:33,950 to finish what he started. 338 00:13:34,270 --> 00:13:35,330 That's what got us so nervous. 339 00:13:36,310 --> 00:13:37,510 Okay, we're going to try to trace 340 00:13:37,510 --> 00:13:38,350 the e-mail. 341 00:13:38,350 --> 00:13:39,532 In the meantime, you stay right here 342 00:13:39,532 --> 00:13:40,372 with your parents. 343 00:13:40,372 --> 00:13:42,332 Any candidates 344 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:45,120 on the sender? 345 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:45,960 Well, we're going back 346 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:47,000 to talk to the school psychologist 347 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:48,240 see what we can come up with. 348 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,096 Well, sending an e-mail afterward 349 00:13:50,560 --> 00:13:51,920 is clearly learned behavior. 350 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,800 Well, this case is less than two days old 351 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,660 and we've already gone through two completely credible suspects 352 00:13:58,440 --> 00:13:59,280 True. And who knows how long 353 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,533 this list is going to be once we talk to the shrink? 354 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:05,280 Ninja Nightmare? 355 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:06,657 Any ideas, Doc? 356 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,920 How long will it take you to get a court order? 357 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,380 I an call the D.A.'s Office right now. 358 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:14,240 Forget the D.A. 359 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:15,325 What do you got? 360 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:17,320 There is a student. 361 00:14:17,362 --> 00:14:18,571 Who? 362 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:20,680 I don't know if I can break privilege. 363 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:22,960 We don't need to see the file, Doc. 364 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:24,100 We just need a name. 365 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,800 You realize what's at stake here? 366 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,560 Of course I realize what's at stake. 367 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,500 My daughter goes to school here. 368 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,406 Then tell us what we need to know. 369 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,040 This student, he's really scary. 370 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,240 He's been kicked out of three different private schools 371 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:43,300 before he came here. 372 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,260 Some pretty violent episodes. 373 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,560 How come you didn't tell us this before? 374 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:48,600 Well, he's relatively new. 375 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,300 I wasn't fully familiar with his history. 376 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:53,980 Give us the name, Doc. 377 00:14:54,021 --> 00:14:55,147 Semple. 378 00:14:55,147 --> 00:14:57,316 Henry Semple. 379 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:01,743 You know we're taking a chance, right? 380 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:03,374 Hey, it's called hot pursuit. 381 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:04,320 I just don't want to end up 382 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:05,860 on the cover of the Post twice on one case. 383 00:15:05,860 --> 00:15:06,861 Yes? 384 00:15:06,903 --> 00:15:07,863 Police. 385 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:10,500 We're looking for Henry Semple. 386 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,094 Is he at home? 387 00:15:12,136 --> 00:15:13,220 Yes. 388 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:16,724 Henry! 389 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,429 Well, partner, I think you just redeemed yourself. 390 00:15:37,730 --> 00:15:38,970 Docket ending 995. 391 00:15:39,012 --> 00:15:39,972 People v. Henry Semple. 392 00:15:41,530 --> 00:15:43,190 Four counts murder in the second degree 393 00:15:43,450 --> 00:15:45,310 11 counts attempted murder second. 394 00:15:46,490 --> 00:15:47,990 I'll hear you, Ms. Carmichael. 395 00:15:48,930 --> 00:15:50,670 Your Honor, the defendant, Henry Semple 396 00:15:51,010 --> 00:15:52,550 armed with a semi-automatic weapon 397 00:15:52,770 --> 00:15:53,950 and concealing his identity 398 00:15:54,650 --> 00:15:55,690 entered the high school he attends 399 00:15:55,850 --> 00:15:56,690 and without provocation 400 00:15:56,890 --> 00:15:58,550 emptied his weapon at his fellow students 401 00:15:59,250 --> 00:16:00,750 wounding eleven and killing four. 402 00:16:01,170 --> 00:16:02,990 Despite his age, the People request remand. 403 00:16:03,490 --> 00:16:05,326 Judge, I'm not going to try this case today 404 00:16:05,450 --> 00:16:06,810 but the facts just proffered by the People 405 00:16:06,930 --> 00:16:08,550 will obviously be disputed at trial. 406 00:16:09,050 --> 00:16:09,950 I should add, Your Honor 407 00:16:10,050 --> 00:16:11,510 that ballistics has matched the gun 408 00:16:11,610 --> 00:16:13,590 recovered from the defendant with the murder weapon. 409 00:16:14,250 --> 00:16:16,810 Are you saying they got the wrong guy, Counselor? 410 00:16:16,810 --> 00:16:18,670 The wrong kid, Your Honor 411 00:16:19,690 --> 00:16:20,750 and no, that's not our claim. 412 00:16:21,490 --> 00:16:22,550 It is our contention, however 413 00:16:22,690 --> 00:16:24,310 that the shooting was not without provocation 414 00:16:24,610 --> 00:16:26,430 and will ultimately lead to different conclusions 415 00:16:26,730 --> 00:16:27,830 than those reached by the People. 416 00:16:28,730 --> 00:16:31,230 Present in court today are the parents of my client. 417 00:16:31,650 --> 00:16:33,470 His father, Bill Semple is a corporate partner 418 00:16:33,610 --> 00:16:35,950 for the law firm of Whittier and Hughes and a former attorney 419 00:16:36,130 --> 00:16:38,200 for the Justice Department's Antitrust division. 420 00:16:38,500 --> 00:16:40,700 I appreciate his family's here, Counselor 421 00:16:41,460 --> 00:16:43,921 but do you honestly expect I'm sending him home? 422 00:16:43,962 --> 00:16:45,130 No, Your Honor. 423 00:16:45,172 --> 00:16:46,381 Mr. and Mrs. Semple are, however 424 00:16:46,580 --> 00:16:49,880 asking that their son be committed to a private, secure 425 00:16:50,140 --> 00:16:51,620 psychiatric facility, in lieu of bail. 426 00:16:52,060 --> 00:16:52,940 They have offered to assume 427 00:16:53,100 --> 00:16:54,460 the cost of his incarceration there 428 00:16:54,580 --> 00:16:55,940 as well as the cost of his transportation 429 00:16:56,300 --> 00:16:58,000 to and from court as required. 430 00:16:58,460 --> 00:17:00,060 We have buses at Rikers to do that. 431 00:17:00,180 --> 00:17:01,600 But not the medical health professionals 432 00:17:01,860 --> 00:17:03,180 available at a private facility. 433 00:17:03,900 --> 00:17:05,220 It's our contention that such an environment 434 00:17:05,460 --> 00:17:06,340 will assist all the parties 435 00:17:06,500 --> 00:17:07,800 including the People in assessing 436 00:17:07,980 --> 00:17:09,800 an appropriate course of treatment for my client. 437 00:17:10,060 --> 00:17:12,520 The only treatment the People are interested in at this point 438 00:17:12,660 --> 00:17:15,000 is life behind bars so he can never do this again. 439 00:17:16,460 --> 00:17:17,300 I'm sorry, Counselor 440 00:17:17,540 --> 00:17:18,940 but given the nature of these charges 441 00:17:19,180 --> 00:17:21,308 I simply won't risk the safety of any employee 442 00:17:21,580 --> 00:17:22,540 of a private facility. 443 00:17:22,980 --> 00:17:24,740 Accordingly, the defendant is hereby remanded 444 00:17:24,940 --> 00:17:27,220 to the Department of Corrections without bail. 445 00:17:37,670 --> 00:17:38,990 Why not let his parents pay 446 00:17:39,070 --> 00:17:40,170 the cost of his incarceration? 447 00:17:41,270 --> 00:17:43,530 Because it creates an appearance of impropriety. 448 00:17:43,572 --> 00:17:45,156 Wealthy parents 449 00:17:45,310 --> 00:17:47,450 getting special consideration for their son. 450 00:17:48,030 --> 00:17:49,430 I also don't think we want the jury pool 451 00:17:49,550 --> 00:17:51,910 hearing anything about a private psychiatric hospital. 452 00:17:52,510 --> 00:17:53,350 That just gives his lawyer 453 00:17:53,510 --> 00:17:54,850 a leg up in the insanity defense. 454 00:17:55,390 --> 00:17:58,226 So, a kid who obviously needs psychiatric treatment 455 00:17:58,270 --> 00:17:59,770 doesn't get it because no one does 456 00:17:59,990 --> 00:18:01,050 and we keep him at Rikers 457 00:18:01,270 --> 00:18:02,790 because it makes our case look better. 458 00:18:03,150 --> 00:18:05,170 This is a strange way to run a candy store. 459 00:18:05,550 --> 00:18:07,510 Keeping this kid out of a psychiatric hospital 460 00:18:07,750 --> 00:18:09,670 is our best shot at keeping him off the streets. 461 00:18:09,712 --> 00:18:10,796 Permanently. 462 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:11,881 Permanently? 463 00:18:12,470 --> 00:18:13,310 I assume we're seeking 464 00:18:13,350 --> 00:18:14,510 the maximum, here? 465 00:18:14,510 --> 00:18:16,430 Consecutive life terms 466 00:18:17,150 --> 00:18:20,150 for a kid who's just turned 16? 467 00:18:20,150 --> 00:18:22,510 Even at his age, that's a death sentence. 468 00:18:22,910 --> 00:18:24,704 Four children are dead, Nora. 469 00:18:24,950 --> 00:18:27,050 We can't just send him to bed without any dinner. 470 00:18:27,470 --> 00:18:28,310 I think Abbie's right. 471 00:18:28,510 --> 00:18:30,150 We have to deal with this kid severely. 472 00:18:30,710 --> 00:18:31,550 Life in prison 473 00:18:31,550 --> 00:18:33,230 won't deter the copycats, Jack. 474 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:35,460 Not with the 15 minutes of fame. 475 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,960 But what about the other kids in these schools? 476 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,220 We want them to come forward, but if we send a message 477 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,300 this is just the result of a troubled mind 478 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:43,860 they'll try to handle it themselves. 479 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,300 I watched this kid in court. 480 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,540 He showed absolutely no signs of remorse. 481 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:53,500 Well, I can't ask for life 482 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,440 without a psychiatric evaluation. 483 00:18:56,360 --> 00:18:58,840 He concealed his identity, he fled the scene-- 484 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,280 those are both pretty good indicators 485 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,240 that he knew the difference between right and wrong. 486 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:03,480 There's no middle ground here. 487 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:05,640 We've got the gun. 488 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,550 Do we have any witnesses? 489 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:10,660 Best one's the kid with the video. 490 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,560 Better get on that right away before he sells his credibility. 491 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:22,540 Some of the kids don't want to come in here anymore. 492 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:24,080 But not you. 493 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,040 I figure it comes with the territory. 494 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,000 Getting shot comes with high school? 495 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,168 No, I meant being an aspiring journalist and all. 496 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:32,970 You know, I've been on CNN. 497 00:19:33,730 --> 00:19:35,130 Is that so? 498 00:19:35,130 --> 00:19:36,730 I'm supposed to do a Town Meeting on Nightline 499 00:19:36,930 --> 00:19:39,250 but it might conflict with a special on NBC. 500 00:19:40,850 --> 00:19:43,170 Look, I'd really like to get the tape back. 501 00:19:43,170 --> 00:19:44,350 We still need it for a while, Kevin. 502 00:19:45,450 --> 00:19:46,868 Now, I need you to think back 503 00:19:47,490 --> 00:19:48,550 if you saw anything-- 504 00:19:48,930 --> 00:19:51,250 anything at all that wasn't on the tape. 505 00:19:51,291 --> 00:19:52,626 Like what? 506 00:19:53,490 --> 00:19:55,470 Like the kid's face, like... 507 00:19:56,850 --> 00:19:59,185 No, just what's on the video. 508 00:19:59,490 --> 00:20:02,330 So where were you when the shots rang out? 509 00:20:02,330 --> 00:20:03,170 Lunch line. 510 00:20:03,170 --> 00:20:06,131 And you just happened to have a video camera with you? 511 00:20:06,770 --> 00:20:08,050 Well, I just got it. 512 00:20:08,050 --> 00:20:09,490 I try to take it wherever I go 513 00:20:10,330 --> 00:20:12,210 and I figured, last year in high school-- 514 00:20:12,970 --> 00:20:14,090 final days and all that. 515 00:20:14,970 --> 00:20:16,290 I wanted to get my friends 516 00:20:17,010 --> 00:20:18,570 make sure I had something to remember them by. 517 00:20:21,610 --> 00:20:24,405 Guess I do now, huh? 518 00:20:24,630 --> 00:20:25,470 Is your son's lawyer 519 00:20:25,470 --> 00:20:27,930 aware you're here, Mr. Semple? 520 00:20:28,170 --> 00:20:29,210 We're not sure this attorney 521 00:20:29,370 --> 00:20:31,030 really appreciates our son's situation. 522 00:20:32,050 --> 00:20:33,610 What situation is that? 523 00:20:33,610 --> 00:20:34,736 How is our son? 524 00:20:34,778 --> 00:20:36,530 Last report he's doing all right. 525 00:20:37,330 --> 00:20:39,550 Six of the children he shot are still hospitalized. 526 00:20:46,010 --> 00:20:47,890 I'm very sorry to hear that. 527 00:20:51,730 --> 00:20:52,790 You don't believe me. 528 00:20:53,050 --> 00:20:55,310 Your concern seems a little late, that's all. 529 00:20:55,810 --> 00:20:56,650 You think we knew? 530 00:20:57,410 --> 00:20:58,650 You think you can look at your child 531 00:20:58,810 --> 00:21:00,770 and know he's capable of this? 532 00:21:01,250 --> 00:21:02,150 I think it depends on 533 00:21:02,250 --> 00:21:03,890 how hard you're looking, Mrs. Semple. 534 00:21:04,650 --> 00:21:07,152 Look, maybe we deserve this, I don't know. 535 00:21:08,930 --> 00:21:10,470 But we came here to talk about Henry. 536 00:21:12,250 --> 00:21:15,130 What is it you want us to know? 537 00:21:15,130 --> 00:21:16,150 Henry's had some problems 538 00:21:16,930 --> 00:21:18,110 since we moved here from Virginia. 539 00:21:19,410 --> 00:21:21,453 What kind of problems? 540 00:21:21,930 --> 00:21:23,710 Nothing to suggest anything like this. 541 00:21:23,930 --> 00:21:24,910 You said in court 542 00:21:25,570 --> 00:21:28,250 you wanted Henry to spend the rest of his life in prison. 543 00:21:29,170 --> 00:21:30,360 The judge will determine 544 00:21:30,660 --> 00:21:32,240 your son's sentence, Mrs. Semple. 545 00:21:33,140 --> 00:21:35,240 But he's only 16 years old. 546 00:21:36,220 --> 00:21:37,060 He's lucky he's not facing 547 00:21:37,180 --> 00:21:38,020 the death penalty. 548 00:21:39,260 --> 00:21:40,300 You're the ones who sentenced 549 00:21:40,540 --> 00:21:42,208 that other boy to death, aren't you? 550 00:21:42,980 --> 00:21:45,190 The one who killed that delivery man? 551 00:21:45,500 --> 00:21:47,140 I told you, that kid was 18. 552 00:21:48,060 --> 00:21:49,780 They can't ask for the death penalty for Henry. 553 00:21:49,980 --> 00:21:50,820 He's too young. 554 00:21:51,100 --> 00:21:51,940 Your husband's right. 555 00:21:51,940 --> 00:21:53,700 The death penalty isn't applicable here. 556 00:21:54,900 --> 00:21:56,820 Our son needs help. 557 00:21:57,460 --> 00:21:58,660 Do you understand? 558 00:21:58,660 --> 00:21:59,600 That's why we're here. 559 00:21:59,980 --> 00:22:01,400 That's why we want to change lawyers. 560 00:22:02,700 --> 00:22:06,453 Please, can't you just find some way to help him? 561 00:22:13,620 --> 00:22:14,480 We appreciate your time. 562 00:22:17,580 --> 00:22:19,240 I'll have Henry's new lawyer get in touch. 563 00:22:24,620 --> 00:22:26,747 Well, there's a woman who's in complete denial 564 00:22:27,060 --> 00:22:28,550 about what's going to happen to her kid. 565 00:22:29,070 --> 00:22:30,690 Maybe that's the safest place to be. 566 00:22:37,822 --> 00:22:41,950 Jack? 567 00:22:41,950 --> 00:22:44,953 Jamie Ross, what the hell are you doing here? 568 00:22:44,994 --> 00:22:46,162 Hi. 569 00:22:46,230 --> 00:22:47,070 This is a surprise. 570 00:22:47,430 --> 00:22:50,225 Come, here, sit. 571 00:22:50,266 --> 00:22:51,476 Thank you. 572 00:22:52,190 --> 00:22:53,399 How are you? 573 00:22:53,441 --> 00:22:54,567 I'm good, and you? 574 00:22:54,609 --> 00:22:55,693 Fine. 575 00:22:55,735 --> 00:22:58,571 Pictures. 576 00:23:04,118 --> 00:23:06,162 Absolutely beautiful. 577 00:23:09,150 --> 00:23:12,070 But I thought you left us to spend more time with them. 578 00:23:12,070 --> 00:23:13,470 I did. I do. 579 00:23:14,630 --> 00:23:16,010 But every now and then a case comes along 580 00:23:16,052 --> 00:23:18,220 that makes me sit up and take notice. 581 00:23:20,723 --> 00:23:22,058 My Appearance. 582 00:23:23,809 --> 00:23:25,603 Henry Semple? 583 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,360 I was retained this afternoon. 584 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,120 You're going to defend this kid? 585 00:23:32,120 --> 00:23:32,960 You mean instead of 586 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,080 letting them take him out back and shoot him? 587 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,623 Yes, I'm going to defend him. 588 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:38,800 Come on, Jack 589 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,300 these shootings are a phenomenon of children 590 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:41,320 and yet you prosecutors 591 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:42,920 are hell-bent to try them as adults. 592 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:44,960 Pretty soon there'll be no distinction 593 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,640 between children and adults at all. 594 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,180 I assume Mr. Semple is aware we worked together. 595 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,176 Yes, and he also knows there'll be no favors 596 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,540 coming to me because of it. Good. 597 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,440 He was with the Justice Department himself, down in D.C. 598 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:03,280 Yes, we met. 599 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,280 Well, then, you know how concerned 600 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:05,520 these parents are for their child. 601 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,680 What is it you want, Jamie? 602 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:11,840 Am I going to have to fight with you? 603 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:12,900 I don't want to fight with you. 604 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,060 I don't want to fight with you either, Jack. 605 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:16,980 I'm here to work toward some solution 606 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,400 so we can both sleep at night. 607 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,374 Jamie, four people are dead-- kids. 608 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:24,560 Another six are in the hospital. 609 00:24:25,690 --> 00:24:27,490 The law demands your client be held accountable. 610 00:24:28,090 --> 00:24:29,530 It doesn't demand charging him as an adult 611 00:24:29,650 --> 00:24:30,650 without any evaluation. 612 00:24:31,250 --> 00:24:34,310 Come on, we both know what an evaluation's going to show-- 613 00:24:35,290 --> 00:24:36,890 that the kid knew right from wrong. 614 00:24:37,210 --> 00:24:38,490 Which shouldn't be the end of the story-- 615 00:24:38,810 --> 00:24:39,690 not with the country in the middle 616 00:24:39,770 --> 00:24:40,970 of an epidemic of these things. 617 00:24:41,770 --> 00:24:43,650 I can only deal with the case in front of me. 618 00:24:52,770 --> 00:24:54,470 Motion to suppress the gun, statements 619 00:24:54,690 --> 00:24:55,830 and any other evidence you obtained 620 00:24:56,050 --> 00:24:58,390 as a result of that school psychologist's big mouth. 621 00:25:05,570 --> 00:25:06,950 I want to know if either of you 622 00:25:07,410 --> 00:25:09,570 talked to anyone other than the school psychologist 623 00:25:09,930 --> 00:25:11,990 who mentioned Henry Semple as a possible suspect. 624 00:25:12,370 --> 00:25:13,970 What do you want us to do, Counselor? 625 00:25:13,970 --> 00:25:15,054 Verify our sources? 626 00:25:15,370 --> 00:25:16,470 I think we need to remember 627 00:25:16,690 --> 00:25:19,990 that when Briscoe and Green made the decision to pursue the lead 628 00:25:20,210 --> 00:25:22,170 a threat had been made via e-mail 629 00:25:22,490 --> 00:25:24,160 that the shooter was coming back. 630 00:25:24,460 --> 00:25:25,880 We thought it was pretty important. 631 00:25:27,180 --> 00:25:29,220 All of us are subject to having our judgments 632 00:25:29,500 --> 00:25:30,820 reviewed by the courts, Detective. 633 00:25:31,100 --> 00:25:32,120 We're just trying to ascertain 634 00:25:32,540 --> 00:25:34,300 whether yours can withstand scrutiny. 635 00:25:36,220 --> 00:25:38,723 Did either of you consider getting a court order first? 636 00:25:39,020 --> 00:25:40,460 Yeah, we discussed it. 637 00:25:40,460 --> 00:25:41,300 And? 638 00:25:41,300 --> 00:25:43,720 We both made the decision to proceed without one. 639 00:25:46,060 --> 00:25:46,900 This judge hears that 640 00:25:47,020 --> 00:25:48,220 exigency could be out the window. 641 00:25:53,380 --> 00:25:54,600 This psychologist had a child 642 00:25:54,740 --> 00:25:55,600 attending that school. 643 00:25:55,820 --> 00:25:57,840 I think she let her fear for that child's safety 644 00:25:58,060 --> 00:26:00,480 compromise her professional obligations to this student. 645 00:26:01,300 --> 00:26:03,160 I think there's a few thousand other students 646 00:26:03,380 --> 00:26:05,420 who'd say their lives may have been saved by it. 647 00:26:05,780 --> 00:26:07,820 So the ends justify the means? 648 00:26:07,820 --> 00:26:09,580 These cops had every reason to believe 649 00:26:09,820 --> 00:26:12,060 that the sender of the e-mail was the shooter. 650 00:26:12,540 --> 00:26:15,400 The means was simply going to the person who most logically 651 00:26:15,700 --> 00:26:16,720 could furnish an identity. 652 00:26:17,020 --> 00:26:19,200 They coerced her into violating privilege. 653 00:26:19,740 --> 00:26:21,826 What if it was your daughter he'd shot? 654 00:26:21,868 --> 00:26:22,828 What then? 655 00:26:23,540 --> 00:26:25,100 I'd pray that my fear for her safety 656 00:26:25,260 --> 00:26:26,780 wouldn't be used as an excuse to deprive 657 00:26:26,980 --> 00:26:29,320 300 million Americans of their Constitutional rights. 658 00:26:29,740 --> 00:26:30,760 And what about the rights of kids 659 00:26:30,860 --> 00:26:33,060 not to be shot at when they go to school? 660 00:26:33,060 --> 00:26:35,320 The fact remains that if a mental health care provider 661 00:26:35,540 --> 00:26:37,340 revealed this information about an adult patient 662 00:26:37,660 --> 00:26:39,140 we wouldn't even be having this conversation. 663 00:26:39,580 --> 00:26:40,760 We would if there was exigency. 664 00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:43,560 The e-mail indicated that the shooter wasn't finished. 665 00:26:43,602 --> 00:26:45,562 The e-mail was sent from New Orleans. 666 00:26:45,562 --> 00:26:46,522 That information 667 00:26:46,780 --> 00:26:48,420 was not communicated to these detectives. 668 00:26:49,380 --> 00:26:51,000 One phone call from their cell phones is all 669 00:26:51,060 --> 00:26:52,060 it would have taken, Your Honor. 670 00:26:53,140 --> 00:26:55,640 This is a printout from the NYPD computer crime section 671 00:26:55,820 --> 00:26:58,020 indicating that the e-mail was traced almost an hour 672 00:26:58,220 --> 00:27:00,180 before these detectives showed up at the Semples' home. 673 00:27:05,740 --> 00:27:07,060 I'm afraid Ms. Ross is right. 674 00:27:07,860 --> 00:27:10,260 These police officers had plenty of time 675 00:27:10,380 --> 00:27:11,440 to verify their information 676 00:27:12,140 --> 00:27:13,240 or obtain a warrant. 677 00:27:13,780 --> 00:27:15,200 Balance the interests, here, Your Honor. 678 00:27:15,940 --> 00:27:18,260 We're talking about a technical violation of the law 679 00:27:18,660 --> 00:27:20,200 against freeing a mass murderer. 680 00:27:20,283 --> 00:27:21,368 What we're talking about 681 00:27:21,670 --> 00:27:24,190 is doctor-patient privilege and the Fourth Amendment. 682 00:27:24,790 --> 00:27:26,070 I don't see how either 683 00:27:26,350 --> 00:27:28,210 can be construed as a technicality. 684 00:27:28,670 --> 00:27:30,810 And with no eyewitnesses, and no other way for the police 685 00:27:30,910 --> 00:27:32,430 to come up with Henry Semple as a suspect... 686 00:27:32,750 --> 00:27:34,450 Everything seized becomes 687 00:27:34,750 --> 00:27:37,010 fruit of the poisonous tree, including the gun. 688 00:27:37,470 --> 00:27:39,710 Your Honor, if the law doesn't give people 689 00:27:39,910 --> 00:27:41,310 the sense it can protect them 690 00:27:41,950 --> 00:27:44,190 they're going to end up protecting themselves. 691 00:27:44,950 --> 00:27:46,534 And judges do what in the meantime? 692 00:27:47,030 --> 00:27:48,150 Ignore the Constitution 693 00:27:48,590 --> 00:27:52,343 when it suits us? 694 00:27:52,390 --> 00:27:53,290 I've got no choice here. 695 00:27:53,390 --> 00:27:54,310 The charges are dismissed. 696 00:27:55,230 --> 00:27:58,210 The People can refile if you can make out a case 697 00:27:58,350 --> 00:28:00,050 without the psychologist's profile. 698 00:28:09,630 --> 00:28:11,370 in the first place he'd still be there 699 00:28:11,670 --> 00:28:12,950 instead of out on the street. 700 00:28:13,470 --> 00:28:14,310 It wouldn't be a problem 701 00:28:14,470 --> 00:28:16,870 if they'd pass laws that would allow schoolteachers 702 00:28:16,870 --> 00:28:17,890 and mental health professionals 703 00:28:18,310 --> 00:28:20,460 to release information without a court order. 704 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:21,920 Only they haven't done it yet. 705 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:23,700 Which is why we need a federal standard. 706 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:24,940 Which we also don't have. 707 00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:27,060 Based on the merits, the court was right. 708 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,300 How can releasing a kid that we know 709 00:28:29,342 --> 00:28:30,551 committed the crime be right? 710 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,620 Doesn't it concern you at all 711 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:34,980 that releasing a kid's name to the public 712 00:28:35,021 --> 00:28:35,981 without a court order creates 713 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,474 a feeding frenzy for suspects? 714 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,340 Not when someone else's life is at stake. 715 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,940 Except these cops were given three names 716 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:44,720 One of them was dragged out 717 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,620 of his own neighborhood in handcuffs 718 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,280 because nobody bothered to verify the facts. 719 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,720 The public looks to us to maintain law and order 720 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,980 not run around like chickens with our heads chopped off. 721 00:28:57,231 --> 00:28:58,191 Mr. McCoy 722 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,434 Ms. Carmichael, car's here. 723 00:29:00,802 --> 00:29:01,642 Be right there. 724 00:29:01,642 --> 00:29:03,394 Thanks. 725 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,280 We're meeting with the parents of some of the victims. 726 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:06,820 We have to tell them about the merits 727 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:07,860 of the court's decision. 728 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:12,940 So as a direct result 729 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:14,240 of the judge's decision 730 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:15,960 we had to let him go this morning. 731 00:29:16,002 --> 00:29:16,962 What? 732 00:29:18,090 --> 00:29:20,425 You're saying this maniac is back on the streets? 733 00:29:21,610 --> 00:29:23,470 He was released into his parent's custody. 734 00:29:23,890 --> 00:29:26,490 They're the ones who couldn't control him in the first place. 735 00:29:26,490 --> 00:29:28,158 Could this bastard go back to school? 736 00:29:29,290 --> 00:29:30,130 I doubt he would. 737 00:29:30,330 --> 00:29:31,248 But he could? 738 00:29:31,290 --> 00:29:33,960 How? How could this judge just let him go? 739 00:29:34,210 --> 00:29:36,086 How could he just do that? 740 00:29:36,090 --> 00:29:37,290 The police gathered information 741 00:29:37,570 --> 00:29:38,530 without a court order. 742 00:29:38,810 --> 00:29:40,853 Who the hell cares how they found out? 743 00:29:40,970 --> 00:29:42,510 Everybody in here knows he did it! 744 00:29:42,610 --> 00:29:43,450 Let me tell you something. 745 00:29:44,130 --> 00:29:45,930 This kid shows up anywhere near this school 746 00:29:46,090 --> 00:29:47,110 I'll take him out myself. 747 00:29:49,330 --> 00:29:51,210 We came here to let you know about this situation 748 00:29:51,530 --> 00:29:52,370 but please don't forget 749 00:29:52,450 --> 00:29:53,910 we are officers of the court. 750 00:29:54,210 --> 00:29:55,310 That kind of talk could get you 751 00:29:55,370 --> 00:29:56,450 into a world of trouble. 752 00:29:57,130 --> 00:29:59,670 What we are asking you to do is try to remain calm 753 00:30:00,850 --> 00:30:01,970 and let us do our jobs. 754 00:30:04,930 --> 00:30:08,230 Our daughter Lilah was one of the kids who was shot. 755 00:30:09,610 --> 00:30:11,430 The bullet severed her spinal cord. 756 00:30:12,450 --> 00:30:13,810 They don't know if she'll ever walk again. 757 00:30:15,370 --> 00:30:17,340 Lilah never did anything to that boy. 758 00:30:17,340 --> 00:30:18,360 She didn't even know him. 759 00:30:19,340 --> 00:30:20,960 You can't just let him walk away from this. 760 00:30:21,900 --> 00:30:23,860 You can't just tell us that your hands are tied by the law. 761 00:30:23,860 --> 00:30:26,697 Is the D.A.'s office even aware 762 00:30:28,740 --> 00:30:30,700 that there's a rumor this kid told other kids 763 00:30:30,820 --> 00:30:31,940 he was going to do this 764 00:30:32,220 --> 00:30:34,263 and none of them did anything about it? 765 00:30:35,180 --> 00:30:36,180 I'm sick of learning things 766 00:30:36,260 --> 00:30:37,680 about this case after the fact. 767 00:30:37,980 --> 00:30:41,317 Hey, we talked to 52 kids who were either in the cafeteria 768 00:30:41,540 --> 00:30:43,800 or had been identified as friends of Semple. 769 00:30:44,100 --> 00:30:46,260 Nobody indicated that there were prior threats. 770 00:30:46,460 --> 00:30:47,836 Well, apparently, someone knew. 771 00:30:48,260 --> 00:30:50,160 The parents claim that Semple told some kids 772 00:30:50,260 --> 00:30:51,500 he was going to shoot the place up. 773 00:30:51,740 --> 00:30:53,074 Do they have any names? 774 00:30:53,100 --> 00:30:54,101 Detective, I had 775 00:30:54,180 --> 00:30:57,060 just told them that we had to cut Semple loose 776 00:30:57,220 --> 00:30:58,260 because of your screw-up. 777 00:30:58,420 --> 00:31:01,140 I wasn't about to let them know they knew more than we did. 778 00:31:01,380 --> 00:31:03,160 Any time you think you can do my job 779 00:31:03,380 --> 00:31:04,920 better than me, just let me know. 780 00:31:05,140 --> 00:31:05,980 Your job is 781 00:31:05,980 --> 00:31:09,040 to gather evidence we can use in court 782 00:31:09,980 --> 00:31:11,440 not make headlines playing hero. 783 00:31:11,620 --> 00:31:12,660 That what you think we were doing? 784 00:31:12,660 --> 00:31:13,500 Let me tell you something. 785 00:31:13,500 --> 00:31:15,210 The next time you go into court 786 00:31:15,470 --> 00:31:16,930 and somebody draws a gun on you 787 00:31:17,150 --> 00:31:18,170 tell me how you deal with it. 788 00:31:18,230 --> 00:31:20,790 You don't like your job's requirements, Detective 789 00:31:21,270 --> 00:31:22,250 turn in your badge. 790 00:31:23,670 --> 00:31:25,310 Gentlemen, if we could 791 00:31:25,310 --> 00:31:27,370 just lower the level of testosterone 792 00:31:27,830 --> 00:31:28,870 just a little bit. 793 00:31:33,110 --> 00:31:34,630 Now, why don't we try to figure out a way 794 00:31:34,630 --> 00:31:35,470 to find the kids 795 00:31:35,470 --> 00:31:37,680 who might have been told beforehand? 796 00:31:41,270 --> 00:31:42,130 You lied Kevin. 797 00:31:42,750 --> 00:31:43,590 We asked around. 798 00:31:44,590 --> 00:31:45,430 None of the kids remember 799 00:31:45,630 --> 00:31:48,270 you having that camera at school before that day. 800 00:31:49,270 --> 00:31:50,950 You told us you had it with you all the time. 801 00:31:51,750 --> 00:31:52,590 Is that a crime 802 00:31:52,750 --> 00:31:53,590 making a mistake 803 00:31:53,590 --> 00:31:55,926 about when you take your video camera to school? 804 00:31:55,950 --> 00:31:57,230 The Semple kid walked 805 00:31:57,550 --> 00:31:58,630 with four dead. 806 00:31:58,910 --> 00:32:00,620 You think we're not going to nail somebody for that? 807 00:32:02,430 --> 00:32:04,130 The only thing people hate worse than cops 808 00:32:04,270 --> 00:32:05,810 and lawyers, Kevin, is the media. 809 00:32:06,710 --> 00:32:08,070 Are you threatening him? 810 00:32:08,070 --> 00:32:08,930 We don't have to. 811 00:32:09,270 --> 00:32:11,210 All we have to do is tell everybody in that school 812 00:32:11,390 --> 00:32:12,810 he knew what was going to happen 813 00:32:13,150 --> 00:32:15,530 and we just sit back and let nature take its course. 814 00:32:15,830 --> 00:32:17,130 I want your badge number. 815 00:32:17,590 --> 00:32:22,095 Look, just tell us who knew what Henry Semple was planning. 816 00:32:23,910 --> 00:32:25,070 I'm calling my son a lawyer. 817 00:32:25,390 --> 00:32:26,350 You can do that, Mr. Miller. 818 00:32:26,350 --> 00:32:27,030 You can call a lawyer 819 00:32:27,030 --> 00:32:27,830 and nobody's going to stop you 820 00:32:27,830 --> 00:32:28,930 but I just want you to think 821 00:32:29,590 --> 00:32:30,430 about what your son is going 822 00:32:30,510 --> 00:32:31,350 to take away from today. 823 00:32:33,190 --> 00:32:34,350 Four kids are dead. 824 00:32:36,030 --> 00:32:37,270 Your son could have been one of them. 825 00:32:38,950 --> 00:32:40,470 So I just want you to be sure in your heart 826 00:32:40,470 --> 00:32:41,710 that you're giving him the right advice 827 00:32:41,950 --> 00:32:42,930 by asking for a lawyer 828 00:32:43,230 --> 00:32:44,890 rather than helping us find the killer. 829 00:32:51,830 --> 00:32:52,670 Right now, Kev 830 00:32:54,350 --> 00:32:55,210 tell him who told you. 831 00:32:56,630 --> 00:32:57,470 Right now, Kev. 832 00:33:01,830 --> 00:33:03,230 I didn't even know who this kid was. 833 00:33:05,870 --> 00:33:07,350 Some kids gave him my number. 834 00:33:09,670 --> 00:33:10,770 He called me the night before. 835 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,280 Said maybe I should bring a camera. 836 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,220 Said some big ass thing was going to happen 837 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:19,160 with Henry Semple... 838 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,400 but I didn't know what. 839 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,700 The name, video boy, the name. 840 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,200 I thought Henry was only joking. 841 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,420 What did you think was going to come out 842 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:40,600 of that gun he showed you? 843 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,000 A flag that says "Bang!"? 844 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,760 I didn't think he'd do it. 845 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,060 Then why call Kevin Miller 846 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,241 and tell him to bring his video? 847 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,800 You knew it was going to happen, didn't you? 848 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:50,720 You wanted it to happen. 849 00:33:50,761 --> 00:33:51,721 I didn't. 850 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,200 Only you didn't tell anybody. 851 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,760 Look, Paul, four kids are dead now. 852 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,140 There's nothing you can do to change that. 853 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:01,400 But if Henry goes out and he kills somebody else 854 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:02,240 you're going to tell us 855 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:03,720 you didn't know about it then, too? 856 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,820 The only reason Henry told me was 857 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:11,050 'cause he knew I got picked on just like he did. 858 00:34:11,050 --> 00:34:12,570 You got no idea what it's like 859 00:34:13,970 --> 00:34:15,090 to come to school every day 860 00:34:15,210 --> 00:34:16,990 and know these kids are going to screw with you. 861 00:34:17,850 --> 00:34:19,030 That they're going to steal your money 862 00:34:19,490 --> 00:34:20,650 mess you up in the bathroom. 863 00:34:22,370 --> 00:34:25,110 Once Henry did this drawing he was real proud of 864 00:34:25,290 --> 00:34:27,150 and these jocks just pissed on it. 865 00:34:28,050 --> 00:34:29,970 Then they made him put it back in his backpack. 866 00:34:33,450 --> 00:34:34,910 I didn't think he'd really do it, though. 867 00:34:36,170 --> 00:34:37,030 I really didn't. 868 00:34:39,770 --> 00:34:40,610 You have a kid who'll say 869 00:34:40,610 --> 00:34:41,730 he thought Henry wasn't serious. 870 00:34:41,771 --> 00:34:42,730 That's it. 871 00:34:42,730 --> 00:34:44,110 And another who made the video. 872 00:34:44,410 --> 00:34:45,494 Who can't make an I.D. 873 00:34:46,410 --> 00:34:47,750 A jury puts the two together 874 00:34:47,970 --> 00:34:49,050 we think we have a shot. 875 00:34:49,290 --> 00:34:50,770 What about when they hear another kid 876 00:34:50,890 --> 00:34:52,809 told the police that Howard Earl was the shooter? 877 00:34:53,170 --> 00:34:54,670 Or that a guidance counselor blamed a girl 878 00:34:54,730 --> 00:34:56,090 who doesn't even attend the school anymore. 879 00:34:56,410 --> 00:34:58,110 Jurors read the papers same as we do. 880 00:34:58,530 --> 00:34:59,430 They know Henry did it. 881 00:34:59,490 --> 00:35:00,830 They know he got off on a technicality. 882 00:35:01,490 --> 00:35:02,910 If you think they're not going to jump at a chance 883 00:35:03,010 --> 00:35:04,150 to convict him this time around 884 00:35:04,192 --> 00:35:05,152 you're wrong. 885 00:35:05,810 --> 00:35:06,810 Someone better remind her 886 00:35:06,850 --> 00:35:08,810 of her ethical obligations as a prosecutor. 887 00:35:10,140 --> 00:35:12,240 You mean the one that says I should put someone on trial 888 00:35:12,380 --> 00:35:13,464 who I think is guilty? 889 00:35:13,580 --> 00:35:16,020 No. The one that says you need evidence to do it. 890 00:35:16,180 --> 00:35:17,600 I just told you our evidence. 891 00:35:20,500 --> 00:35:22,620 You'd go along with that? 892 00:35:22,620 --> 00:35:24,540 What's our alternative, Jamie? 893 00:35:24,540 --> 00:35:25,540 Make a civil commitment. 894 00:35:25,900 --> 00:35:27,640 Declare Henry not competent to stand trial. 895 00:35:27,780 --> 00:35:29,380 He goes to a secure psychiatric facility. 896 00:35:29,740 --> 00:35:31,742 So some shrink can release him a few years from now? 897 00:35:32,420 --> 00:35:33,504 No, I don't think so. 898 00:35:33,780 --> 00:35:36,020 And what would be the basis for his incompetency? 899 00:35:37,060 --> 00:35:38,400 Henry has a mental defect. 900 00:35:39,660 --> 00:35:40,880 He was thrown from a horse 901 00:35:41,020 --> 00:35:41,860 when he was six. 902 00:35:42,420 --> 00:35:43,260 He had seizures. 903 00:35:43,460 --> 00:35:44,940 They thought there was brain damage. 904 00:35:45,649 --> 00:35:46,984 You're joking. 905 00:35:47,860 --> 00:35:48,700 We have no illusions 906 00:35:48,820 --> 00:35:50,000 about our son, Ms. Carmichael. 907 00:35:51,340 --> 00:35:52,740 We're just trying to figure this out. 908 00:35:54,660 --> 00:35:56,700 Well, it sounds like you're looking for a way out. 909 00:35:56,700 --> 00:35:58,920 I have three other children, good kids. 910 00:36:00,060 --> 00:36:00,960 I don't want them hurt 911 00:36:01,100 --> 00:36:03,820 I also don't want Henry in Sing Sing 912 00:36:03,980 --> 00:36:05,020 for the rest of his life. 913 00:36:06,060 --> 00:36:06,900 Not at 16. 914 00:36:08,590 --> 00:36:10,230 At least let him talk to Skoda, Jack. 915 00:36:10,790 --> 00:36:12,792 What harm is there in that? 916 00:36:18,190 --> 00:36:19,030 I hear you draw. 917 00:36:20,017 --> 00:36:22,769 Yeah. 918 00:36:23,910 --> 00:36:26,579 You any good? 919 00:36:26,663 --> 00:36:27,664 Don't know. 920 00:36:29,110 --> 00:36:29,950 How did you feel 921 00:36:29,950 --> 00:36:33,070 when those kids urinated on that picture you made and stuck it 922 00:36:33,110 --> 00:36:34,570 in your backpack? 923 00:36:36,655 --> 00:36:38,073 The way this works, Henry 924 00:36:38,230 --> 00:36:39,830 is you answer my questions 925 00:36:40,470 --> 00:36:41,670 and then I talk to the D.A. 926 00:36:41,670 --> 00:36:44,330 and tell them what I think about what you said. 927 00:36:46,230 --> 00:36:48,315 Can you do that? 928 00:36:50,910 --> 00:36:51,750 Have a seat. 929 00:37:01,710 --> 00:37:06,006 These kids at school were pretty rough on you? 930 00:37:06,150 --> 00:37:07,180 They never left me alone. 931 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:09,520 Was that what you wanted? 932 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,606 To be left alone? 933 00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:15,765 I wanted to fit in. 934 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,616 Why do you think you didn't? 935 00:37:22,536 --> 00:37:23,600 Don't know. 936 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:24,560 You must have some idea. 937 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,320 When we lived in Virginia it was different. 938 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:31,540 There weren't so many of them. 939 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,600 Then my dad got this new job in the city. 940 00:37:39,240 --> 00:37:40,420 Guess they all thought I was different. 941 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,955 Did you feel different? 942 00:37:43,997 --> 00:37:45,790 Maybe. 943 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,180 Still didn't give them any right to trash me like they did. 944 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,403 You think they got what they deserved then? 945 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:57,760 Not for me to say. 946 00:37:59,240 --> 00:38:00,080 Just the same 947 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,207 if you were the one to say? 948 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,640 I don't know. Maybe. 949 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,240 I heard they're not making fun of me anymore. 950 00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:15,452 I heard they're scared I might come back. 951 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,488 That's sort of cool, right? 952 00:38:21,906 --> 00:38:23,400 If you're asking me if he knew 953 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:24,660 right from wrong-- no question. 954 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,040 If you're asking me whether he should spend 955 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:28,380 the rest of his life in prison 956 00:38:28,463 --> 00:38:29,423 tougher call. 957 00:38:29,506 --> 00:38:30,466 Why? 958 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,200 Because the fact remains 959 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,380 his teenage brain's different from an adult's. 960 00:38:35,422 --> 00:38:36,673 Different how? 961 00:38:36,673 --> 00:38:37,883 Still maturing 962 00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:39,280 same as the rest of the body. 963 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:41,660 Frontal lobes, parts responsible 964 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,450 for executive functioning, self-control 965 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,375 judgment, emotional regulation. 966 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:48,660 We all went to high school. 967 00:38:48,702 --> 00:38:49,662 We all had problems. 968 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,840 None of us picked up a gun and killed anyone. 969 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:53,960 I'm just saying 970 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,800 there's some science behind the phenomenon. 971 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:57,717 Androgen, for example. 972 00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,002 It affects the amygdala. 973 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:00,000 The part of the brain 974 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,940 that controls things like fear and anger. 975 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,120 It's like I said. 976 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:04,930 If you're asking me 977 00:39:04,930 --> 00:39:06,210 if he knew right from wrong, he did. 978 00:39:07,650 --> 00:39:08,630 The rest is up to you guys. 979 00:39:10,932 --> 00:39:11,772 Thanks for the grub. 980 00:39:11,772 --> 00:39:13,857 Sure thing. 981 00:39:17,890 --> 00:39:19,790 The bottom line is your son was able 982 00:39:19,930 --> 00:39:21,650 to appreciate the nature of his actions. 983 00:39:22,370 --> 00:39:24,370 And the PET scan showed no organic injury 984 00:39:24,530 --> 00:39:25,930 to the brain from any fall. 985 00:39:27,810 --> 00:39:29,645 Which means what? 986 00:39:29,770 --> 00:39:30,610 They're going to trial. 987 00:39:30,970 --> 00:39:32,130 Unless your client wants to save 988 00:39:32,210 --> 00:39:33,310 the taxpayers some money. 989 00:39:33,970 --> 00:39:35,722 A roll of the dice, Jack? 990 00:39:35,970 --> 00:39:36,930 Think of the what's at stake. 991 00:39:37,890 --> 00:39:38,730 We'll take our chances. 992 00:39:39,690 --> 00:39:40,530 You'll take your chances. 993 00:39:42,570 --> 00:39:46,074 Then what the hell happens when they find him not guilty? 994 00:39:46,115 --> 00:39:47,241 Bill... 995 00:39:47,283 --> 00:39:48,610 No. 996 00:39:48,610 --> 00:39:51,370 What are we all going to do then? 997 00:39:51,370 --> 00:39:53,030 I'll tell you what. Nothing. 998 00:39:55,130 --> 00:39:56,290 Because then he'll be out. 999 00:39:57,330 --> 00:39:59,190 He'll be out and maybe hurt other people. 1000 00:40:03,940 --> 00:40:05,400 Let him go to a hospital, Jack. 1001 00:40:06,180 --> 00:40:08,200 There's no basis for it in the law. 1002 00:40:08,580 --> 00:40:11,060 An insanity plea would be a fraud here. 1003 00:40:11,340 --> 00:40:12,340 And an acquittal? 1004 00:40:12,340 --> 00:40:14,383 What will that be? 1005 00:40:16,780 --> 00:40:17,620 He hurt our daughter... 1006 00:40:19,540 --> 00:40:20,380 two years ago. 1007 00:40:21,700 --> 00:40:22,540 He broke her arm. 1008 00:40:23,900 --> 00:40:25,160 And now he walks around the house... 1009 00:40:25,202 --> 00:40:26,828 Bill, please. 1010 00:40:28,260 --> 00:40:29,220 He's our son. 1011 00:40:31,900 --> 00:40:36,195 Yes, he's our son. 1012 00:40:36,237 --> 00:40:39,180 Then how can we? 1013 00:40:39,180 --> 00:40:42,601 How can you what, Mr. Semple? 1014 00:40:48,740 --> 00:40:50,020 He'll spend the rest of his life in prison. 1015 00:40:50,180 --> 00:40:51,640 You realize that? 1016 00:40:51,682 --> 00:40:54,685 Mr. Semple. 1017 00:40:56,144 --> 00:40:58,647 Bill... 1018 00:40:58,689 --> 00:41:02,276 No, please. 1019 00:41:05,150 --> 00:41:07,710 What choice do I have, Patricia? 1020 00:41:07,710 --> 00:41:11,547 Please, tell me what choice do I have. 1021 00:41:11,589 --> 00:41:14,842 Sweet Jesus! 1022 00:41:18,763 --> 00:41:22,183 He confessed... 1023 00:41:22,225 --> 00:41:24,018 okay? 1024 00:41:25,150 --> 00:41:26,470 My son confessed to me. 1025 00:41:49,430 --> 00:41:52,150 Where did this conversation take place? 1026 00:41:52,150 --> 00:41:53,090 In my son's room. 1027 00:41:53,830 --> 00:41:54,670 It was personal. 1028 00:41:55,550 --> 00:41:57,050 That was between you and me. 1029 00:41:58,070 --> 00:42:00,300 Control your client, Ms. Ross. 1030 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,643 What did you son say to you, Mr. Semple? 1031 00:42:07,685 --> 00:42:08,645 Mr. Semple 1032 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,471 what did your son tell you? 1033 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,980 I came home as soon as my wife called me 1034 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:19,860 and told me what happened at the school. 1035 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:22,960 I asked her where Henry was. 1036 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,320 When I went into his room he was just sitting on his bed. 1037 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:29,200 The lights weren't on 1038 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:30,500 but I could tell that he'd been crying. 1039 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:32,599 What did you do? 1040 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:39,380 I put my arm around him and sat next to him. 1041 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,509 What did he say? 1042 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:44,680 That he was scared. 1043 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,200 Scared about going to school. 1044 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:51,413 Scared of what some of the other kids might do to him? 1045 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,080 Scared about what he'd done to them. 1046 00:43:00,010 --> 00:43:03,770 Scared that he missed some of the real jerks 1047 00:43:04,090 --> 00:43:06,490 and wouldn't get a chance to take them out again before... 1048 00:43:11,570 --> 00:43:15,866 What made you finally come forward, Mr. Semple? 1049 00:43:21,770 --> 00:43:22,910 Because I'm scared, too. 1050 00:43:23,810 --> 00:43:25,030 Scared that he'll do it again. 1051 00:43:30,494 --> 00:43:32,120 Henry... 1052 00:43:34,810 --> 00:43:39,273 Henry, for God's sakes... 1053 00:43:50,850 --> 00:43:52,330 I understand from your note 1054 00:43:52,530 --> 00:43:53,650 the jury's reached a verdict. 1055 00:43:54,770 --> 00:43:55,650 We have, Your Honor. 1056 00:43:57,250 --> 00:44:00,587 Will the defendant please rise? 1057 00:44:03,730 --> 00:44:04,610 You may read the verdict. 1058 00:44:06,530 --> 00:44:08,490 On the first four counts of the indictment 1059 00:44:08,850 --> 00:44:10,750 charging Murder in the Second Degree 1060 00:44:11,410 --> 00:44:13,890 we find the defendant, Henry Semple 1061 00:44:13,932 --> 00:44:16,309 guilty. 1062 00:44:23,358 --> 00:44:25,235 Daddy? 1063 00:44:47,610 --> 00:44:49,810 I understand his father's going to ask for leniency 1064 00:44:50,050 --> 00:44:50,890 at the sentencing? 1065 00:44:51,930 --> 00:44:53,430 I doubt anything's going to save this kid 1066 00:44:53,530 --> 00:44:55,060 from life in prison at this point. 1067 00:44:56,820 --> 00:44:57,980 With what's waiting for him 1068 00:44:58,660 --> 00:45:00,280 it might have been kinder to give him the needle. 1069 00:45:02,220 --> 00:45:03,180 Either works for me. 1070 00:45:03,222 --> 00:45:06,183 [Captioning sponsored by STUDIOS USA TELEVISION 1071 00:45:06,225 --> 00:45:08,185 and NBC 1072 00:45:08,227 --> 00:45:11,313 Captioned by The Caption Center WGBH Educational Foundation] 76395

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