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the people are represented
the people are represented
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by two separate
yet equally important groups:
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the police,
who investigate crime
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and the district attorneys,
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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It was a horror show.
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According to her mother,
I give Jodi a "B"
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I only ruin her life,
I spoil a perfect 4.0
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and her chances of getting into Princeton.
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That kid has no chance
of getting into Princeton.
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None, zero.
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She's a drone.
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You tell her
mother that.
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So, what are
you going to do?
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The honorable thing--
change it to an "A."
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Oh, my God.
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The cafeteria.
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He's got a gun!
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Get down!
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A couple of the kids
said he was small.
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Others said
he was average.
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He ran out through
the kitchen
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into the street.
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He was dressed in black,
looked like one of those...
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you know,
in the movies.
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Ninjas?
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Ninjas, right.
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Is there any chance
anybody recognized him?
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He had a stocking
or something
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covering his face.
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Okay, thanks.
We'll be in touch.
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Crouching tiger,
hidden student.
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We've got three dead, 12 wounded
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including one critical--
head shot.
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We probably won't have much luck with
prints on the shell casings.
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The kid gets away.
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You ever hear of that
happening before?
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No. They either shoot themselves or they
surrender
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or somebody tackles them
when they stop to reload.
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No heroes at
George Mason High.
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These are city kids.
They know better.
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Yeah. Green.
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Uh, okay.
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Thanks.
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Head shot died en route to the hospital.
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That's four dead.
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Ever seen one of these
mass shootings
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in a big city school?
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People move
into the city
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to get away from
crimes like this.
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[Captioning sponsored by
STUDIOS USA TELEVISION
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and NBC]
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I was just talking to my friend.
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Who's that?
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Sorry, Emily.
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And I looked up,
and there he was.
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He was just standing there!
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Like he was waiting for someone
to notice him or something!
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Like some kind
of weak-ass ninja, right?
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Then I started
to laugh.
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You started
to laugh?
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I mean, he looked
completely wack.
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I'm like, "What
is this, Halloween?"
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And then he pulled
out the gun.
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He just started shooting
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and I'm frozen, and it's like
this weird pause.
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No one knows what's happening.
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And finally
people start screaming.
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And then he reloads,
he starts shooting again.
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Was he targeting anybody,
could you tell?
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Like zeroing in on
any individuals
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groups?
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I don't know.
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I couldn't
help it.
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I saw this ninja and Howard just popped
into my mind.
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Why did he pop
into your head?
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I don't know.
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Howard was always a little
obsessed with that stuff.
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You know, guns,
kung fu, all that.
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I even heard him
say something
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about Columbine once.
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Really?
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What'd he say?
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Just that those
guys were stupid
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for killing themselves.
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Was Howard
in school today?
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No.
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But you know, after,
like after I thought about it
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it just didn't make sense.
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How come?
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Howard's black.
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It's the same
story with me
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except this one girl
came up with a name--
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Howard Earl.
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I sent a unit over
to his apartment
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just in case
she's right.
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What's going on
over here?
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No, no, no. He's got
the whole thing.
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It's definitely
prime time.
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Just tell me how high
I can go
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for an exclusive
window, all right?
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Hey, excuse you.
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Auction's over, kid.
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What?
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We're detectives.
This is evidence.
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What's
your name?
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Kevin Miller.
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You got this
on videotape?
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Yeah, I got it all.
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Look, when can
I get my tape back?
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Oh, don't worry.
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These vultures will still
want it anytime, trust me.
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I don't care
about the money.
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Yeah, right.
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Really. This could
be my big break.
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What are you
talking about?
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I want to be
in the news business.
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No comment.
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He's got a gun!
Get down! Get down!
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He's reloading.
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No one's going to be able
to ID him.
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Ed's got a candidate.
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Yeah, Howard Earl.
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He's black.
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Classmate says
that he's small
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he has an attitude,
he's obsessed with guns
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and he even talked
about Columbine.
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What are you doing
to locate him?
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Well, we've got uniforms
on his building
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at the pizza place
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and a couple other
neighborhood hangouts
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where he lives.
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Find out whatever
you can about him.
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Spotty attendance,
failing grades
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suspended three times
in the last year...
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once for bringing
a concealed weapon to school.
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A weapon?
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a box cutter.
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Did he use it?
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No, but he brandished it
in the lunch room.
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We get the impression that's he's not very
popular--
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that other kids
pick on him?
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Detectives, we have
3,000 students
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enrolled in this school
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from every walk of life.
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All I can tell you
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is he's not involved in
any extracurricular activities.
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No sports,
no after school.
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Did anybody reach
his parents?
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No father listed.
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He lives with
his grandmother
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at the address
they gave you.
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Where's
his mother?
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Prison.
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For what?
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Aggravated assault.
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Guy's name is Lonnie Nolan.
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Claims he saw Earl
a few hours ago.
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Mr. Nolan?
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Where was it
you saw Earl?
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Coming out of this deli
over on Broadway Terrace.
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You sure it was him?
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Am I sure?
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His mother and me
used to run together
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back in the day,
until she went crazy.
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Crazy?
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Yeah.
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Cut this other bitch.
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Coked up out of her head.
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Next thing I know,
there's all this blood.
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Familiar family saga.
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What was Earl wearing?
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Black sweatshirt,
maybe dark pants--
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black bandanna.
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Could you call it in?
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What's Howard done?
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We're not sure yet,
Mr. Nolan.
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Listen, man, I ain't going
to lie to you.
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That boy scares me.
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I see him coming,
I just cross the street.
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I've been thinking a lot
about this Earl thing
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and it just doesn't
track for me.
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Since when do these things
ever track?
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Well, it's just
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a black kid doing
a school shooting like this
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doesn't fit the profile.
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Drugs, sneakers, gangs--
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that I'll buy.
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But a black kid
shooting up a lunch room.
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Maybe we've finally reached
full equality.
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Well, did he talk
about his plans to anyone?
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Brag about them?
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If he did, we didn't find them.
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So, we've got a 16-year-old kid
boiling with rage
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planning this fantastic
revenge scenario
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and he doesn't talk to anyone.
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Guys, we've got
another sighting.
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Remember, this is
a sit-down only.
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So, bring the grandmother along
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and make sure both of them know
what his rights are.
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How you doing?
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Okay. Kid fitting
that description
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went in that building
20 minutes ago.
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Figured I'd better
wait for you guys.
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Thanks, officer.
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This is him.
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I hate when
they do that.
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I got him!
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Get the car!
Cut him off!
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Come here! Come here!
Come here!
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All right, All right.
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You okay?
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I'm good.
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Ripped a new shoe.
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We got company.
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I see them.
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Come on, move
them back, officer
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Come on, out
of the way.
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Come on, you heard him.
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Watch your head.
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Get in there.
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One of my ex-wives
called this morning
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to bust my chops.
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Which one?
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I forget.
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He really does look
like he's eight years old.
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I thought you were just
going to talk to this boy.
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The kid had
other plans.
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Where's his grandmother?
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She refused
to come down.
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Yeah, she's probably
scared out of her wits.
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Hey, how were we
supposed to know
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there was going
to be a photographer
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staking out the scene?
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Well, the kid that
told you about him
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obviously
told the press.
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It was only a matter of time
before they tracked him... down.
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Has he even had breakfast yet?
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He won't eat,
and he said he won't talk
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until his lawyer shows up.
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When is that
supposed to be?
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Well, well, well.
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What have we here?
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Conspiracy to obstruct justice?
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Speak of the devil.
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You're representing Howard Earl?
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I am, and I plan
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to bring a multimillion-dollar
suit against the city
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the NYPD and the three of you
as individuals, just as soon
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as this case
is dismissed.
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Your client ran, Miss Adams.
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Maybe it had something to do
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with black kids
being afraid of cops
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and y'all don't look
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exactly like
the prize patrol.
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Okay, just do
what you got to do.
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Should have checked
his alibi, officers.
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He was with his grandmother.
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My grandmother
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would swear I was the Pope
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if she thought it would
keep me out of trouble.
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They were visiting Howard's
mother up at Bedford Hills
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at the time of
the shootings.
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He was literally
under lock and key.
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I'll have the prison fax you
the sign-in sheet.
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I'd like to get my
client now, please.
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I'm taking him
out to breakfast.
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We're checking on anybody
269
00:11:00,530 --> 00:11:01,550
who was absent
yesterday.
270
00:11:01,592 --> 00:11:02,593
Understand.
271
00:11:03,170 --> 00:11:04,296
What kind
of gun was used?
272
00:11:04,330 --> 00:11:05,331
A nine millimeter. Why?
273
00:11:05,930 --> 00:11:08,349
Nobody got a look
at the shooter's face, right?
274
00:11:08,391 --> 00:11:09,250
Right.
275
00:11:09,250 --> 00:11:10,850
Sure he didn't say a word?
276
00:11:10,850 --> 00:11:12,290
What's your point?
277
00:11:12,290 --> 00:11:13,374
What about a girl?
278
00:11:13,730 --> 00:11:15,565
A girl can handle a gun, right?
279
00:11:17,730 --> 00:11:19,150
She transferred here
a month ago.
280
00:11:19,150 --> 00:11:20,526
Colleen Jacobs.
281
00:11:21,370 --> 00:11:22,870
She'd been harassed
at her old school.
282
00:11:23,810 --> 00:11:25,110
Her classmates there
heard her say
283
00:11:25,170 --> 00:11:27,290
that she'd like to kill
everybody who teased her
284
00:11:27,370 --> 00:11:28,210
and then herself.
285
00:11:28,490 --> 00:11:30,367
Why wasn't something
done about it?
286
00:11:30,410 --> 00:11:31,290
Something was done.
287
00:11:31,610 --> 00:11:32,570
They transferred her here.
288
00:11:33,890 --> 00:11:35,510
So much for a desperate cry for help.
289
00:11:35,730 --> 00:11:37,106
They transferred
her here and...?
290
00:11:37,690 --> 00:11:39,030
She wasn't making
a good adjustment.
291
00:11:39,610 --> 00:11:40,750
She's been out the whole week.
292
00:11:41,050 --> 00:11:43,070
I was just about to sic
the truant officer on her.
293
00:11:43,112 --> 00:11:44,447
Mrs. Jacobs
294
00:11:45,900 --> 00:11:47,540
we checked
with your daughter's school.
295
00:11:47,980 --> 00:11:49,240
She hasn't been there
all week.
296
00:11:49,580 --> 00:11:51,415
Oh, no, no, not
George Mason.
297
00:11:51,620 --> 00:11:54,206
No, we started her at
Catholic school last week.
298
00:11:54,820 --> 00:11:56,340
Thank God, otherwise
she would have been
299
00:11:56,340 --> 00:11:57,300
there yesterday.
300
00:11:57,660 --> 00:11:59,480
The high school doesn't
seem to know about this.
301
00:12:01,060 --> 00:12:03,479
Well, they obviously
don't know much, detective.
302
00:12:03,980 --> 00:12:07,140
I-I phoned them, I wrote them,
I told them Colleen was leaving.
303
00:12:09,017 --> 00:12:10,101
Colleen, honey.
304
00:12:11,660 --> 00:12:13,220
These men are
homicide detectives.
305
00:12:17,420 --> 00:12:19,422
You think I did it, don't you?
306
00:12:20,020 --> 00:12:21,320
You think I shot those kids.
307
00:12:21,362 --> 00:12:24,239
Did you?
308
00:12:25,140 --> 00:12:26,040
I wish I had.
309
00:12:26,340 --> 00:12:27,580
Oh, honey, don't say that.
310
00:12:27,580 --> 00:12:28,920
They're all jerks
at that school.
311
00:12:29,140 --> 00:12:29,980
I hate them.
312
00:12:30,100 --> 00:12:30,940
You don't
mean that.
313
00:12:31,060 --> 00:12:32,140
But if I had done it
314
00:12:32,180 --> 00:12:34,020
I wouldn't have wussed out
and worn a mask.
315
00:12:34,540 --> 00:12:36,300
I would have wanted
everyone to know it was me.
316
00:12:37,220 --> 00:12:38,420
Then maybe
they would have gotten it
317
00:12:38,460 --> 00:12:40,440
and they would have felt bad
for the rest of their lives.
318
00:12:46,710 --> 00:12:48,030
She doesn't know
what she's saying.
319
00:12:48,072 --> 00:12:50,824
She's depressed.
320
00:12:51,870 --> 00:12:53,150
Well, we're going
to have to check
321
00:12:53,150 --> 00:12:54,090
with her new school.
322
00:12:57,430 --> 00:13:00,892
It happened at lunchtime,
right? The shooting?
323
00:13:00,892 --> 00:13:02,936
Yeah, it was
about 12:30.
324
00:13:04,590 --> 00:13:05,790
Colleen was in therapy.
325
00:13:06,833 --> 00:13:07,876
Excuse me.
326
00:13:09,794 --> 00:13:10,795
Yeah, Green.
327
00:13:15,590 --> 00:13:17,133
So what do we have here?
328
00:13:17,190 --> 00:13:19,442
Brian got this e-mail.
329
00:13:19,910 --> 00:13:20,990
When'd you get this?
330
00:13:20,990 --> 00:13:21,830
A couple
of hours ago.
331
00:13:22,830 --> 00:13:23,748
Who's it from?
332
00:13:24,030 --> 00:13:25,190
Calls himself Ninja Nightmare.
333
00:13:25,750 --> 00:13:27,470
Why'd he send it to you?
334
00:13:27,470 --> 00:13:28,310
I don't know.
335
00:13:29,270 --> 00:13:31,230
Brian's
a Student Council president.
336
00:13:31,272 --> 00:13:32,950
Look, it says
he's coming back
337
00:13:32,950 --> 00:13:33,950
to finish what he started.
338
00:13:34,270 --> 00:13:35,330
That's what got us so nervous.
339
00:13:36,310 --> 00:13:37,510
Okay, we're going
to try to trace
340
00:13:37,510 --> 00:13:38,350
the e-mail.
341
00:13:38,350 --> 00:13:39,532
In the meantime,
you stay right here
342
00:13:39,532 --> 00:13:40,372
with your parents.
343
00:13:40,372 --> 00:13:42,332
Any candidates
344
00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:45,120
on the sender?
345
00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:45,960
Well, we're going back
346
00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:47,000
to talk
to the school psychologist
347
00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:48,240
see what we can
come up with.
348
00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,096
Well, sending
an e-mail afterward
349
00:13:50,560 --> 00:13:51,920
is clearly learned behavior.
350
00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,800
Well, this case is less
than two days old
351
00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,660
and we've already gone through
two completely credible suspects
352
00:13:58,440 --> 00:13:59,280
True. And who
knows how long
353
00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,533
this list is going to be
once we talk to the shrink?
354
00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:05,280
Ninja Nightmare?
355
00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:06,657
Any ideas, Doc?
356
00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,920
How long will it take you
to get a court order?
357
00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,380
I an call the D.A.'s Office
right now.
358
00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:14,240
Forget the D.A.
359
00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:15,325
What do you got?
360
00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:17,320
There is a student.
361
00:14:17,362 --> 00:14:18,571
Who?
362
00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:20,680
I don't know if I
can break privilege.
363
00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:22,960
We don't need
to see the file, Doc.
364
00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:24,100
We just need a name.
365
00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,800
You realize what's
at stake here?
366
00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,560
Of course I realize
what's at stake.
367
00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,500
My daughter goes to school here.
368
00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,406
Then tell us
what we need to know.
369
00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,040
This student, he's really scary.
370
00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,240
He's been kicked out of three
different private schools
371
00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:43,300
before he came here.
372
00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,260
Some pretty
violent episodes.
373
00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,560
How come you didn't
tell us this before?
374
00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:48,600
Well, he's relatively new.
375
00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,300
I wasn't fully familiar
with his history.
376
00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:53,980
Give us the name, Doc.
377
00:14:54,021 --> 00:14:55,147
Semple.
378
00:14:55,147 --> 00:14:57,316
Henry Semple.
379
00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:01,743
You know we're taking
a chance, right?
380
00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:03,374
Hey, it's called
hot pursuit.
381
00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:04,320
I just don't
want to end up
382
00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:05,860
on the cover
of the Post twice on one case.
383
00:15:05,860 --> 00:15:06,861
Yes?
384
00:15:06,903 --> 00:15:07,863
Police.
385
00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:10,500
We're looking
for Henry Semple.
386
00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,094
Is he at home?
387
00:15:12,136 --> 00:15:13,220
Yes.
388
00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:16,724
Henry!
389
00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,429
Well, partner, I think
you just redeemed yourself.
390
00:15:37,730 --> 00:15:38,970
Docket ending 995.
391
00:15:39,012 --> 00:15:39,972
People v. Henry Semple.
392
00:15:41,530 --> 00:15:43,190
Four counts murder
in the second degree
393
00:15:43,450 --> 00:15:45,310
11 counts attempted
murder second.
394
00:15:46,490 --> 00:15:47,990
I'll hear you,
Ms. Carmichael.
395
00:15:48,930 --> 00:15:50,670
Your Honor, the
defendant, Henry Semple
396
00:15:51,010 --> 00:15:52,550
armed with a
semi-automatic weapon
397
00:15:52,770 --> 00:15:53,950
and concealing
his identity
398
00:15:54,650 --> 00:15:55,690
entered the high
school he attends
399
00:15:55,850 --> 00:15:56,690
and without provocation
400
00:15:56,890 --> 00:15:58,550
emptied his weapon
at his fellow students
401
00:15:59,250 --> 00:16:00,750
wounding eleven
and killing four.
402
00:16:01,170 --> 00:16:02,990
Despite his age, the People request
remand.
403
00:16:03,490 --> 00:16:05,326
Judge, I'm not going
to try this case today
404
00:16:05,450 --> 00:16:06,810
but the facts just
proffered by the People
405
00:16:06,930 --> 00:16:08,550
will obviously
be disputed at trial.
406
00:16:09,050 --> 00:16:09,950
I should add, Your Honor
407
00:16:10,050 --> 00:16:11,510
that ballistics
has matched the gun
408
00:16:11,610 --> 00:16:13,590
recovered from the defendant
with the murder weapon.
409
00:16:14,250 --> 00:16:16,810
Are you saying they got
the wrong guy, Counselor?
410
00:16:16,810 --> 00:16:18,670
The wrong kid,
Your Honor
411
00:16:19,690 --> 00:16:20,750
and no, that's
not our claim.
412
00:16:21,490 --> 00:16:22,550
It is our contention, however
413
00:16:22,690 --> 00:16:24,310
that the shooting was
not without provocation
414
00:16:24,610 --> 00:16:26,430
and will ultimately lead
to different conclusions
415
00:16:26,730 --> 00:16:27,830
than those reached
by the People.
416
00:16:28,730 --> 00:16:31,230
Present in court today are
the parents of my client.
417
00:16:31,650 --> 00:16:33,470
His father, Bill Semple
is a corporate partner
418
00:16:33,610 --> 00:16:35,950
for the law firm of Whittier and Hughes
and a former attorney
419
00:16:36,130 --> 00:16:38,200
for the Justice Department's
Antitrust division.
420
00:16:38,500 --> 00:16:40,700
I appreciate his family's here,
Counselor
421
00:16:41,460 --> 00:16:43,921
but do you honestly expect
I'm sending him home?
422
00:16:43,962 --> 00:16:45,130
No, Your Honor.
423
00:16:45,172 --> 00:16:46,381
Mr. and Mrs. Semple
are, however
424
00:16:46,580 --> 00:16:49,880
asking that their son be committed to a
private, secure
425
00:16:50,140 --> 00:16:51,620
psychiatric facility,
in lieu of bail.
426
00:16:52,060 --> 00:16:52,940
They have offered
to assume
427
00:16:53,100 --> 00:16:54,460
the cost of his
incarceration there
428
00:16:54,580 --> 00:16:55,940
as well as the cost
of his transportation
429
00:16:56,300 --> 00:16:58,000
to and from
court as required.
430
00:16:58,460 --> 00:17:00,060
We have buses at Rikers
to do that.
431
00:17:00,180 --> 00:17:01,600
But not the medical
health professionals
432
00:17:01,860 --> 00:17:03,180
available at
a private facility.
433
00:17:03,900 --> 00:17:05,220
It's our contention
that such an environment
434
00:17:05,460 --> 00:17:06,340
will assist
all the parties
435
00:17:06,500 --> 00:17:07,800
including the People
in assessing
436
00:17:07,980 --> 00:17:09,800
an appropriate course of treatment for my
client.
437
00:17:10,060 --> 00:17:12,520
The only treatment the People
are interested in at this point
438
00:17:12,660 --> 00:17:15,000
is life behind bars
so he can never do this again.
439
00:17:16,460 --> 00:17:17,300
I'm sorry, Counselor
440
00:17:17,540 --> 00:17:18,940
but given the nature
of these charges
441
00:17:19,180 --> 00:17:21,308
I simply won't risk
the safety of any employee
442
00:17:21,580 --> 00:17:22,540
of a private facility.
443
00:17:22,980 --> 00:17:24,740
Accordingly, the defendant
is hereby remanded
444
00:17:24,940 --> 00:17:27,220
to the Department of Corrections without
bail.
445
00:17:37,670 --> 00:17:38,990
Why not let his parents pay
446
00:17:39,070 --> 00:17:40,170
the cost of
his incarceration?
447
00:17:41,270 --> 00:17:43,530
Because it creates
an appearance of impropriety.
448
00:17:43,572 --> 00:17:45,156
Wealthy parents
449
00:17:45,310 --> 00:17:47,450
getting special consideration
for their son.
450
00:17:48,030 --> 00:17:49,430
I also don't think
we want the jury pool
451
00:17:49,550 --> 00:17:51,910
hearing anything about
a private psychiatric hospital.
452
00:17:52,510 --> 00:17:53,350
That just gives
his lawyer
453
00:17:53,510 --> 00:17:54,850
a leg up in
the insanity defense.
454
00:17:55,390 --> 00:17:58,226
So, a kid who obviously
needs psychiatric treatment
455
00:17:58,270 --> 00:17:59,770
doesn't get it
because no one does
456
00:17:59,990 --> 00:18:01,050
and we keep him at Rikers
457
00:18:01,270 --> 00:18:02,790
because it makes
our case look better.
458
00:18:03,150 --> 00:18:05,170
This is a strange way
to run a candy store.
459
00:18:05,550 --> 00:18:07,510
Keeping this kid out of
a psychiatric hospital
460
00:18:07,750 --> 00:18:09,670
is our best shot at
keeping him off the streets.
461
00:18:09,712 --> 00:18:10,796
Permanently.
462
00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:11,881
Permanently?
463
00:18:12,470 --> 00:18:13,310
I assume we're seeking
464
00:18:13,350 --> 00:18:14,510
the maximum, here?
465
00:18:14,510 --> 00:18:16,430
Consecutive
life terms
466
00:18:17,150 --> 00:18:20,150
for a kid who's just turned 16?
467
00:18:20,150 --> 00:18:22,510
Even at his age,
that's a death sentence.
468
00:18:22,910 --> 00:18:24,704
Four children are dead, Nora.
469
00:18:24,950 --> 00:18:27,050
We can't just send him to bed
without any dinner.
470
00:18:27,470 --> 00:18:28,310
I think Abbie's right.
471
00:18:28,510 --> 00:18:30,150
We have to deal
with this kid severely.
472
00:18:30,710 --> 00:18:31,550
Life in prison
473
00:18:31,550 --> 00:18:33,230
won't deter the copycats, Jack.
474
00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:35,460
Not with the 15 minutes of fame.
475
00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,960
But what about the other kids in these
schools?
476
00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,220
We want them to come forward,
but if we send a message
477
00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,300
this is just the result
of a troubled mind
478
00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:43,860
they'll try to handle it themselves.
479
00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,300
I watched this kid in court.
480
00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,540
He showed absolutely
no signs of remorse.
481
00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:53,500
Well, I can't ask for life
482
00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,440
without
a psychiatric evaluation.
483
00:18:56,360 --> 00:18:58,840
He concealed his identity, he
fled the scene--
484
00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,280
those are both
pretty good indicators
485
00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,240
that he knew the difference
between right and wrong.
486
00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:03,480
There's no
middle ground here.
487
00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:05,640
We've got the gun.
488
00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,550
Do we have any witnesses?
489
00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:10,660
Best one's
the kid with the video.
490
00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,560
Better get on that right away
before he sells his credibility.
491
00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:22,540
Some of the kids don't want to
come in here anymore.
492
00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:24,080
But not you.
493
00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,040
I figure it comes
with the territory.
494
00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,000
Getting shot comes
with high school?
495
00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,168
No, I meant being
an aspiring journalist and all.
496
00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:32,970
You know, I've been on CNN.
497
00:19:33,730 --> 00:19:35,130
Is that so?
498
00:19:35,130 --> 00:19:36,730
I'm supposed to do
a Town Meeting on Nightline
499
00:19:36,930 --> 00:19:39,250
but it might conflict
with a special on NBC.
500
00:19:40,850 --> 00:19:43,170
Look, I'd really like
to get the tape back.
501
00:19:43,170 --> 00:19:44,350
We still need it
for a while, Kevin.
502
00:19:45,450 --> 00:19:46,868
Now, I need you
to think back
503
00:19:47,490 --> 00:19:48,550
if you saw anything--
504
00:19:48,930 --> 00:19:51,250
anything at all
that wasn't on the tape.
505
00:19:51,291 --> 00:19:52,626
Like what?
506
00:19:53,490 --> 00:19:55,470
Like the kid's face, like...
507
00:19:56,850 --> 00:19:59,185
No, just what's
on the video.
508
00:19:59,490 --> 00:20:02,330
So where were you
when the shots rang out?
509
00:20:02,330 --> 00:20:03,170
Lunch line.
510
00:20:03,170 --> 00:20:06,131
And you just happened
to have a video camera with you?
511
00:20:06,770 --> 00:20:08,050
Well, I just got it.
512
00:20:08,050 --> 00:20:09,490
I try to take it
wherever I go
513
00:20:10,330 --> 00:20:12,210
and I figured,
last year in high school--
514
00:20:12,970 --> 00:20:14,090
final days and all that.
515
00:20:14,970 --> 00:20:16,290
I wanted to get my friends
516
00:20:17,010 --> 00:20:18,570
make sure I had something
to remember them by.
517
00:20:21,610 --> 00:20:24,405
Guess I do now, huh?
518
00:20:24,630 --> 00:20:25,470
Is your son's lawyer
519
00:20:25,470 --> 00:20:27,930
aware you're here,
Mr. Semple?
520
00:20:28,170 --> 00:20:29,210
We're not sure
this attorney
521
00:20:29,370 --> 00:20:31,030
really appreciates
our son's situation.
522
00:20:32,050 --> 00:20:33,610
What situation is that?
523
00:20:33,610 --> 00:20:34,736
How is our son?
524
00:20:34,778 --> 00:20:36,530
Last report he's doing all right.
525
00:20:37,330 --> 00:20:39,550
Six of the children he shot
are still hospitalized.
526
00:20:46,010 --> 00:20:47,890
I'm very sorry
to hear that.
527
00:20:51,730 --> 00:20:52,790
You don't believe me.
528
00:20:53,050 --> 00:20:55,310
Your concern seems
a little late, that's all.
529
00:20:55,810 --> 00:20:56,650
You think we knew?
530
00:20:57,410 --> 00:20:58,650
You think you can
look at your child
531
00:20:58,810 --> 00:21:00,770
and know he's capable of this?
532
00:21:01,250 --> 00:21:02,150
I think it depends on
533
00:21:02,250 --> 00:21:03,890
how hard you're looking,
Mrs. Semple.
534
00:21:04,650 --> 00:21:07,152
Look, maybe we deserve this,
I don't know.
535
00:21:08,930 --> 00:21:10,470
But we came here
to talk about Henry.
536
00:21:12,250 --> 00:21:15,130
What is it you want us to know?
537
00:21:15,130 --> 00:21:16,150
Henry's had some problems
538
00:21:16,930 --> 00:21:18,110
since we moved here
from Virginia.
539
00:21:19,410 --> 00:21:21,453
What kind of problems?
540
00:21:21,930 --> 00:21:23,710
Nothing to suggest
anything like this.
541
00:21:23,930 --> 00:21:24,910
You said in court
542
00:21:25,570 --> 00:21:28,250
you wanted Henry to spend
the rest of his life in prison.
543
00:21:29,170 --> 00:21:30,360
The judge will determine
544
00:21:30,660 --> 00:21:32,240
your son's sentence,
Mrs. Semple.
545
00:21:33,140 --> 00:21:35,240
But he's only 16 years old.
546
00:21:36,220 --> 00:21:37,060
He's lucky
he's not facing
547
00:21:37,180 --> 00:21:38,020
the death penalty.
548
00:21:39,260 --> 00:21:40,300
You're the ones who sentenced
549
00:21:40,540 --> 00:21:42,208
that other boy to death,
aren't you?
550
00:21:42,980 --> 00:21:45,190
The one who killed
that delivery man?
551
00:21:45,500 --> 00:21:47,140
I told you, that kid was 18.
552
00:21:48,060 --> 00:21:49,780
They can't ask for
the death penalty for Henry.
553
00:21:49,980 --> 00:21:50,820
He's too young.
554
00:21:51,100 --> 00:21:51,940
Your husband's right.
555
00:21:51,940 --> 00:21:53,700
The death penalty
isn't applicable here.
556
00:21:54,900 --> 00:21:56,820
Our son needs help.
557
00:21:57,460 --> 00:21:58,660
Do you understand?
558
00:21:58,660 --> 00:21:59,600
That's why we're here.
559
00:21:59,980 --> 00:22:01,400
That's why we want
to change lawyers.
560
00:22:02,700 --> 00:22:06,453
Please, can't you just find
some way to help him?
561
00:22:13,620 --> 00:22:14,480
We appreciate your time.
562
00:22:17,580 --> 00:22:19,240
I'll have Henry's
new lawyer get in touch.
563
00:22:24,620 --> 00:22:26,747
Well, there's a woman
who's in complete denial
564
00:22:27,060 --> 00:22:28,550
about what's
going to happen to her kid.
565
00:22:29,070 --> 00:22:30,690
Maybe that's
the safest place to be.
566
00:22:37,822 --> 00:22:41,950
Jack?
567
00:22:41,950 --> 00:22:44,953
Jamie Ross, what the hell
are you doing here?
568
00:22:44,994 --> 00:22:46,162
Hi.
569
00:22:46,230 --> 00:22:47,070
This is a surprise.
570
00:22:47,430 --> 00:22:50,225
Come, here, sit.
571
00:22:50,266 --> 00:22:51,476
Thank you.
572
00:22:52,190 --> 00:22:53,399
How are you?
573
00:22:53,441 --> 00:22:54,567
I'm good, and you?
574
00:22:54,609 --> 00:22:55,693
Fine.
575
00:22:55,735 --> 00:22:58,571
Pictures.
576
00:23:04,118 --> 00:23:06,162
Absolutely beautiful.
577
00:23:09,150 --> 00:23:12,070
But I thought you left us
to spend more time with them.
578
00:23:12,070 --> 00:23:13,470
I did. I do.
579
00:23:14,630 --> 00:23:16,010
But every now and then
a case comes along
580
00:23:16,052 --> 00:23:18,220
that makes me sit up
and take notice.
581
00:23:20,723 --> 00:23:22,058
My Appearance.
582
00:23:23,809 --> 00:23:25,603
Henry Semple?
583
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,360
I was retained
this afternoon.
584
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,120
You're going
to defend this kid?
585
00:23:32,120 --> 00:23:32,960
You mean instead of
586
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,080
letting them take him
out back and shoot him?
587
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,623
Yes, I'm going
to defend him.
588
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:38,800
Come on, Jack
589
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,300
these shootings are
a phenomenon of children
590
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:41,320
and yet you prosecutors
591
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:42,920
are hell-bent to try
them as adults.
592
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:44,960
Pretty soon there'll
be no distinction
593
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,640
between children
and adults at all.
594
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,180
I assume Mr. Semple
is aware we worked together.
595
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,176
Yes, and he also knows
there'll be no favors
596
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,540
coming to me because of it. Good.
597
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,440
He was with the Justice Department
himself, down in D.C.
598
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:03,280
Yes, we met.
599
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,280
Well, then, you
know how concerned
600
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:05,520
these parents are
for their child.
601
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,680
What is it you want, Jamie?
602
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:11,840
Am I going to have to fight
with you?
603
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:12,900
I don't want to fight with you.
604
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,060
I don't want to fight with you
either, Jack.
605
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:16,980
I'm here to work
toward some solution
606
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,400
so we can both sleep at night.
607
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,374
Jamie, four people
are dead-- kids.
608
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:24,560
Another six
are in the hospital.
609
00:24:25,690 --> 00:24:27,490
The law demands your client
be held accountable.
610
00:24:28,090 --> 00:24:29,530
It doesn't demand
charging him as an adult
611
00:24:29,650 --> 00:24:30,650
without any evaluation.
612
00:24:31,250 --> 00:24:34,310
Come on, we both know what
an evaluation's going to show--
613
00:24:35,290 --> 00:24:36,890
that the kid knew
right from wrong.
614
00:24:37,210 --> 00:24:38,490
Which shouldn't be
the end of the story--
615
00:24:38,810 --> 00:24:39,690
not with the country
in the middle
616
00:24:39,770 --> 00:24:40,970
of an epidemic
of these things.
617
00:24:41,770 --> 00:24:43,650
I can only deal with
the case in front of me.
618
00:24:52,770 --> 00:24:54,470
Motion to suppress
the gun, statements
619
00:24:54,690 --> 00:24:55,830
and any other evidence
you obtained
620
00:24:56,050 --> 00:24:58,390
as a result of that school
psychologist's big mouth.
621
00:25:05,570 --> 00:25:06,950
I want to know
if either of you
622
00:25:07,410 --> 00:25:09,570
talked to anyone other
than the school psychologist
623
00:25:09,930 --> 00:25:11,990
who mentioned Henry Semple
as a possible suspect.
624
00:25:12,370 --> 00:25:13,970
What do you want
us to do, Counselor?
625
00:25:13,970 --> 00:25:15,054
Verify our sources?
626
00:25:15,370 --> 00:25:16,470
I think we need to remember
627
00:25:16,690 --> 00:25:19,990
that when Briscoe and Green made
the decision to pursue the lead
628
00:25:20,210 --> 00:25:22,170
a threat had been made
via e-mail
629
00:25:22,490 --> 00:25:24,160
that the shooter
was coming back.
630
00:25:24,460 --> 00:25:25,880
We thought it
was pretty important.
631
00:25:27,180 --> 00:25:29,220
All of us are subject
to having our judgments
632
00:25:29,500 --> 00:25:30,820
reviewed by the courts,
Detective.
633
00:25:31,100 --> 00:25:32,120
We're just trying to ascertain
634
00:25:32,540 --> 00:25:34,300
whether yours
can withstand scrutiny.
635
00:25:36,220 --> 00:25:38,723
Did either of you consider
getting a court order first?
636
00:25:39,020 --> 00:25:40,460
Yeah, we discussed it.
637
00:25:40,460 --> 00:25:41,300
And?
638
00:25:41,300 --> 00:25:43,720
We both made the decision
to proceed without one.
639
00:25:46,060 --> 00:25:46,900
This judge hears that
640
00:25:47,020 --> 00:25:48,220
exigency could be
out the window.
641
00:25:53,380 --> 00:25:54,600
This psychologist had a child
642
00:25:54,740 --> 00:25:55,600
attending that school.
643
00:25:55,820 --> 00:25:57,840
I think she let her fear
for that child's safety
644
00:25:58,060 --> 00:26:00,480
compromise her professional
obligations to this student.
645
00:26:01,300 --> 00:26:03,160
I think there's a few
thousand other students
646
00:26:03,380 --> 00:26:05,420
who'd say their lives
may have been saved by it.
647
00:26:05,780 --> 00:26:07,820
So the ends
justify the means?
648
00:26:07,820 --> 00:26:09,580
These cops had
every reason to believe
649
00:26:09,820 --> 00:26:12,060
that the sender of the e-mail was the
shooter.
650
00:26:12,540 --> 00:26:15,400
The means was simply going to the person
who most logically
651
00:26:15,700 --> 00:26:16,720
could furnish an identity.
652
00:26:17,020 --> 00:26:19,200
They coerced her
into violating privilege.
653
00:26:19,740 --> 00:26:21,826
What if it was your
daughter he'd shot?
654
00:26:21,868 --> 00:26:22,828
What then?
655
00:26:23,540 --> 00:26:25,100
I'd pray that my fear
for her safety
656
00:26:25,260 --> 00:26:26,780
wouldn't be used
as an excuse to deprive
657
00:26:26,980 --> 00:26:29,320
300 million Americans
of their Constitutional rights.
658
00:26:29,740 --> 00:26:30,760
And what about
the rights of kids
659
00:26:30,860 --> 00:26:33,060
not to be shot at
when they go to school?
660
00:26:33,060 --> 00:26:35,320
The fact remains that if
a mental health care provider
661
00:26:35,540 --> 00:26:37,340
revealed this information
about an adult patient
662
00:26:37,660 --> 00:26:39,140
we wouldn't even be having
this conversation.
663
00:26:39,580 --> 00:26:40,760
We would if there was exigency.
664
00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:43,560
The e-mail indicated that
the shooter wasn't finished.
665
00:26:43,602 --> 00:26:45,562
The e-mail was sent
from New Orleans.
666
00:26:45,562 --> 00:26:46,522
That information
667
00:26:46,780 --> 00:26:48,420
was not communicated
to these detectives.
668
00:26:49,380 --> 00:26:51,000
One phone call from
their cell phones is all
669
00:26:51,060 --> 00:26:52,060
it would have taken,
Your Honor.
670
00:26:53,140 --> 00:26:55,640
This is a printout from the NYPD computer
crime section
671
00:26:55,820 --> 00:26:58,020
indicating that the e-mail
was traced almost an hour
672
00:26:58,220 --> 00:27:00,180
before these detectives
showed up at the Semples' home.
673
00:27:05,740 --> 00:27:07,060
I'm afraid
Ms. Ross is right.
674
00:27:07,860 --> 00:27:10,260
These police officers
had plenty of time
675
00:27:10,380 --> 00:27:11,440
to verify their information
676
00:27:12,140 --> 00:27:13,240
or obtain a warrant.
677
00:27:13,780 --> 00:27:15,200
Balance the interests,
here, Your Honor.
678
00:27:15,940 --> 00:27:18,260
We're talking about a technical violation
of the law
679
00:27:18,660 --> 00:27:20,200
against freeing
a mass murderer.
680
00:27:20,283 --> 00:27:21,368
What we're talking about
681
00:27:21,670 --> 00:27:24,190
is doctor-patient privilege
and the Fourth Amendment.
682
00:27:24,790 --> 00:27:26,070
I don't see how either
683
00:27:26,350 --> 00:27:28,210
can be construed
as a technicality.
684
00:27:28,670 --> 00:27:30,810
And with no eyewitnesses,
and no other way for the police
685
00:27:30,910 --> 00:27:32,430
to come up with Henry Semple
as a suspect...
686
00:27:32,750 --> 00:27:34,450
Everything
seized becomes
687
00:27:34,750 --> 00:27:37,010
fruit of the poisonous tree,
including the gun.
688
00:27:37,470 --> 00:27:39,710
Your Honor, if the law
doesn't give people
689
00:27:39,910 --> 00:27:41,310
the sense it can protect them
690
00:27:41,950 --> 00:27:44,190
they're going to end up
protecting themselves.
691
00:27:44,950 --> 00:27:46,534
And judges do what
in the meantime?
692
00:27:47,030 --> 00:27:48,150
Ignore the Constitution
693
00:27:48,590 --> 00:27:52,343
when it suits us?
694
00:27:52,390 --> 00:27:53,290
I've got no choice here.
695
00:27:53,390 --> 00:27:54,310
The charges are dismissed.
696
00:27:55,230 --> 00:27:58,210
The People can refile
if you can make out a case
697
00:27:58,350 --> 00:28:00,050
without the psychologist's profile.
698
00:28:09,630 --> 00:28:11,370
in the first place
he'd still be there
699
00:28:11,670 --> 00:28:12,950
instead of out on the street.
700
00:28:13,470 --> 00:28:14,310
It wouldn't be
a problem
701
00:28:14,470 --> 00:28:16,870
if they'd pass laws
that would allow schoolteachers
702
00:28:16,870 --> 00:28:17,890
and mental health professionals
703
00:28:18,310 --> 00:28:20,460
to release information
without a court order.
704
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:21,920
Only they haven't
done it yet.
705
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:23,700
Which is why we need
a federal standard.
706
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:24,940
Which we also
don't have.
707
00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:27,060
Based on the merits,
the court was right.
708
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,300
How can releasing
a kid that we know
709
00:28:29,342 --> 00:28:30,551
committed the crime
be right?
710
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,620
Doesn't it concern you at all
711
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:34,980
that releasing a kid's name
to the public
712
00:28:35,021 --> 00:28:35,981
without a court order creates
713
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,474
a feeding frenzy
for suspects?
714
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,340
Not when someone else's life
is at stake.
715
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,940
Except these cops
were given three names
716
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:44,720
One of them was dragged out
717
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,620
of his own neighborhood
in handcuffs
718
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,280
because nobody bothered
to verify the facts.
719
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,720
The public looks to us
to maintain law and order
720
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,980
not run around like chickens
with our heads chopped off.
721
00:28:57,231 --> 00:28:58,191
Mr. McCoy
722
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,434
Ms. Carmichael, car's here.
723
00:29:00,802 --> 00:29:01,642
Be right there.
724
00:29:01,642 --> 00:29:03,394
Thanks.
725
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,280
We're meeting with the parents
of some of the victims.
726
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:06,820
We have to tell them
about the merits
727
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:07,860
of the court's decision.
728
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:12,940
So as a direct result
729
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:14,240
of the judge's decision
730
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:15,960
we had to let him go
this morning.
731
00:29:16,002 --> 00:29:16,962
What?
732
00:29:18,090 --> 00:29:20,425
You're saying this maniac
is back on the streets?
733
00:29:21,610 --> 00:29:23,470
He was released into
his parent's custody.
734
00:29:23,890 --> 00:29:26,490
They're the ones who couldn't
control him in the first place.
735
00:29:26,490 --> 00:29:28,158
Could this bastard
go back to school?
736
00:29:29,290 --> 00:29:30,130
I doubt he would.
737
00:29:30,330 --> 00:29:31,248
But he could?
738
00:29:31,290 --> 00:29:33,960
How? How could this
judge just let him go?
739
00:29:34,210 --> 00:29:36,086
How could he just do that?
740
00:29:36,090 --> 00:29:37,290
The police gathered
information
741
00:29:37,570 --> 00:29:38,530
without a court order.
742
00:29:38,810 --> 00:29:40,853
Who the hell cares
how they found out?
743
00:29:40,970 --> 00:29:42,510
Everybody in here knows
he did it!
744
00:29:42,610 --> 00:29:43,450
Let me tell you
something.
745
00:29:44,130 --> 00:29:45,930
This kid shows up
anywhere near this school
746
00:29:46,090 --> 00:29:47,110
I'll take him out myself.
747
00:29:49,330 --> 00:29:51,210
We came here to let you know
about this situation
748
00:29:51,530 --> 00:29:52,370
but please don't forget
749
00:29:52,450 --> 00:29:53,910
we are officers
of the court.
750
00:29:54,210 --> 00:29:55,310
That kind of talk
could get you
751
00:29:55,370 --> 00:29:56,450
into a world of trouble.
752
00:29:57,130 --> 00:29:59,670
What we are asking you to do is
try to remain calm
753
00:30:00,850 --> 00:30:01,970
and let us do our jobs.
754
00:30:04,930 --> 00:30:08,230
Our daughter Lilah was
one of the kids who was shot.
755
00:30:09,610 --> 00:30:11,430
The bullet severed
her spinal cord.
756
00:30:12,450 --> 00:30:13,810
They don't know if she'll
ever walk again.
757
00:30:15,370 --> 00:30:17,340
Lilah never did anything
to that boy.
758
00:30:17,340 --> 00:30:18,360
She didn't even know him.
759
00:30:19,340 --> 00:30:20,960
You can't just let him
walk away from this.
760
00:30:21,900 --> 00:30:23,860
You can't just tell us that
your hands are tied by the law.
761
00:30:23,860 --> 00:30:26,697
Is the D.A.'s office even aware
762
00:30:28,740 --> 00:30:30,700
that there's a rumor
this kid told other kids
763
00:30:30,820 --> 00:30:31,940
he was going to do this
764
00:30:32,220 --> 00:30:34,263
and none of them did anything
about it?
765
00:30:35,180 --> 00:30:36,180
I'm sick of learning things
766
00:30:36,260 --> 00:30:37,680
about this case after the fact.
767
00:30:37,980 --> 00:30:41,317
Hey, we talked to 52 kids
who were either in the cafeteria
768
00:30:41,540 --> 00:30:43,800
or had been identified
as friends of Semple.
769
00:30:44,100 --> 00:30:46,260
Nobody indicated that
there were prior threats.
770
00:30:46,460 --> 00:30:47,836
Well, apparently,
someone knew.
771
00:30:48,260 --> 00:30:50,160
The parents claim
that Semple told some kids
772
00:30:50,260 --> 00:30:51,500
he was going
to shoot the place up.
773
00:30:51,740 --> 00:30:53,074
Do they have any names?
774
00:30:53,100 --> 00:30:54,101
Detective, I had
775
00:30:54,180 --> 00:30:57,060
just told them
that we had to cut Semple loose
776
00:30:57,220 --> 00:30:58,260
because of your screw-up.
777
00:30:58,420 --> 00:31:01,140
I wasn't about to let them know
they knew more than we did.
778
00:31:01,380 --> 00:31:03,160
Any time you think
you can do my job
779
00:31:03,380 --> 00:31:04,920
better than me,
just let me know.
780
00:31:05,140 --> 00:31:05,980
Your job is
781
00:31:05,980 --> 00:31:09,040
to gather evidence
we can use in court
782
00:31:09,980 --> 00:31:11,440
not make headlines
playing hero.
783
00:31:11,620 --> 00:31:12,660
That what you think
we were doing?
784
00:31:12,660 --> 00:31:13,500
Let me tell you something.
785
00:31:13,500 --> 00:31:15,210
The next time you go
into court
786
00:31:15,470 --> 00:31:16,930
and somebody draws
a gun on you
787
00:31:17,150 --> 00:31:18,170
tell me how
you deal with it.
788
00:31:18,230 --> 00:31:20,790
You don't like your job's
requirements, Detective
789
00:31:21,270 --> 00:31:22,250
turn in your badge.
790
00:31:23,670 --> 00:31:25,310
Gentlemen, if we could
791
00:31:25,310 --> 00:31:27,370
just lower the level
of testosterone
792
00:31:27,830 --> 00:31:28,870
just a little bit.
793
00:31:33,110 --> 00:31:34,630
Now, why don't we try
to figure out a way
794
00:31:34,630 --> 00:31:35,470
to find the kids
795
00:31:35,470 --> 00:31:37,680
who might have been told
beforehand?
796
00:31:41,270 --> 00:31:42,130
You lied Kevin.
797
00:31:42,750 --> 00:31:43,590
We asked around.
798
00:31:44,590 --> 00:31:45,430
None of the
kids remember
799
00:31:45,630 --> 00:31:48,270
you having that camera
at school before that day.
800
00:31:49,270 --> 00:31:50,950
You told us you had it with you
all the time.
801
00:31:51,750 --> 00:31:52,590
Is that a crime
802
00:31:52,750 --> 00:31:53,590
making a mistake
803
00:31:53,590 --> 00:31:55,926
about when you take
your video camera to school?
804
00:31:55,950 --> 00:31:57,230
The Semple kid walked
805
00:31:57,550 --> 00:31:58,630
with four dead.
806
00:31:58,910 --> 00:32:00,620
You think we're not going
to nail somebody for that?
807
00:32:02,430 --> 00:32:04,130
The only thing people hate worse than cops
808
00:32:04,270 --> 00:32:05,810
and lawyers, Kevin,
is the media.
809
00:32:06,710 --> 00:32:08,070
Are you threatening him?
810
00:32:08,070 --> 00:32:08,930
We don't have to.
811
00:32:09,270 --> 00:32:11,210
All we have to do is tell
everybody in that school
812
00:32:11,390 --> 00:32:12,810
he knew what was going
to happen
813
00:32:13,150 --> 00:32:15,530
and we just sit back
and let nature take its course.
814
00:32:15,830 --> 00:32:17,130
I want your badge number.
815
00:32:17,590 --> 00:32:22,095
Look, just tell us who knew
what Henry Semple was planning.
816
00:32:23,910 --> 00:32:25,070
I'm calling my son a lawyer.
817
00:32:25,390 --> 00:32:26,350
You can do that,
Mr. Miller.
818
00:32:26,350 --> 00:32:27,030
You can call
a lawyer
819
00:32:27,030 --> 00:32:27,830
and nobody's going
to stop you
820
00:32:27,830 --> 00:32:28,930
but I just want
you to think
821
00:32:29,590 --> 00:32:30,430
about what your son
is going
822
00:32:30,510 --> 00:32:31,350
to take away from today.
823
00:32:33,190 --> 00:32:34,350
Four kids are dead.
824
00:32:36,030 --> 00:32:37,270
Your son could have been
one of them.
825
00:32:38,950 --> 00:32:40,470
So I just want you to be sure
in your heart
826
00:32:40,470 --> 00:32:41,710
that you're giving him
the right advice
827
00:32:41,950 --> 00:32:42,930
by asking for a lawyer
828
00:32:43,230 --> 00:32:44,890
rather than helping us
find the killer.
829
00:32:51,830 --> 00:32:52,670
Right now, Kev
830
00:32:54,350 --> 00:32:55,210
tell him who told you.
831
00:32:56,630 --> 00:32:57,470
Right now, Kev.
832
00:33:01,830 --> 00:33:03,230
I didn't even know
who this kid was.
833
00:33:05,870 --> 00:33:07,350
Some kids gave him my number.
834
00:33:09,670 --> 00:33:10,770
He called me the night before.
835
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,280
Said maybe I should
bring a camera.
836
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,220
Said some big ass thing was
going to happen
837
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:19,160
with Henry Semple...
838
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,400
but I didn't know what.
839
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,700
The name, video boy, the name.
840
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,200
I thought Henry was only joking.
841
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,420
What did you think was going to
come out
842
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:40,600
of that gun he showed you?
843
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,000
A flag that says "Bang!"?
844
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,760
I didn't think he'd do it.
845
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,060
Then why call Kevin Miller
846
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,241
and tell him
to bring his video?
847
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,800
You knew it was going to happen,
didn't you?
848
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:50,720
You wanted it to happen.
849
00:33:50,761 --> 00:33:51,721
I didn't.
850
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,200
Only you didn't tell anybody.
851
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,760
Look, Paul, four kids are dead now.
852
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,140
There's nothing you can do
to change that.
853
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:01,400
But if Henry goes out
and he kills somebody else
854
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:02,240
you're going to tell us
855
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:03,720
you didn't know about it
then, too?
856
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,820
The only reason
Henry told me was
857
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:11,050
'cause he knew I got picked on
just like he did.
858
00:34:11,050 --> 00:34:12,570
You got no idea what it's like
859
00:34:13,970 --> 00:34:15,090
to come to school every day
860
00:34:15,210 --> 00:34:16,990
and know these kids are going
to screw with you.
861
00:34:17,850 --> 00:34:19,030
That they're going to steal
your money
862
00:34:19,490 --> 00:34:20,650
mess you up in the bathroom.
863
00:34:22,370 --> 00:34:25,110
Once Henry did this drawing
he was real proud of
864
00:34:25,290 --> 00:34:27,150
and these jocks
just pissed on it.
865
00:34:28,050 --> 00:34:29,970
Then they made him
put it back in his backpack.
866
00:34:33,450 --> 00:34:34,910
I didn't think
he'd really do it, though.
867
00:34:36,170 --> 00:34:37,030
I really didn't.
868
00:34:39,770 --> 00:34:40,610
You have a kid who'll say
869
00:34:40,610 --> 00:34:41,730
he thought Henry wasn't serious.
870
00:34:41,771 --> 00:34:42,730
That's it.
871
00:34:42,730 --> 00:34:44,110
And another
who made the video.
872
00:34:44,410 --> 00:34:45,494
Who can't make an I.D.
873
00:34:46,410 --> 00:34:47,750
A jury puts the
two together
874
00:34:47,970 --> 00:34:49,050
we think we
have a shot.
875
00:34:49,290 --> 00:34:50,770
What about when they hear
another kid
876
00:34:50,890 --> 00:34:52,809
told the police that Howard Earl
was the shooter?
877
00:34:53,170 --> 00:34:54,670
Or that a guidance counselor
blamed a girl
878
00:34:54,730 --> 00:34:56,090
who doesn't even attend
the school anymore.
879
00:34:56,410 --> 00:34:58,110
Jurors read the papers
same as we do.
880
00:34:58,530 --> 00:34:59,430
They know Henry did it.
881
00:34:59,490 --> 00:35:00,830
They know he got off
on a technicality.
882
00:35:01,490 --> 00:35:02,910
If you think they're not going
to jump at a chance
883
00:35:03,010 --> 00:35:04,150
to convict him
this time around
884
00:35:04,192 --> 00:35:05,152
you're wrong.
885
00:35:05,810 --> 00:35:06,810
Someone better remind her
886
00:35:06,850 --> 00:35:08,810
of her ethical obligations
as a prosecutor.
887
00:35:10,140 --> 00:35:12,240
You mean the one that says
I should put someone on trial
888
00:35:12,380 --> 00:35:13,464
who I think is guilty?
889
00:35:13,580 --> 00:35:16,020
No. The one that says
you need evidence to do it.
890
00:35:16,180 --> 00:35:17,600
I just told you our evidence.
891
00:35:20,500 --> 00:35:22,620
You'd go along with that?
892
00:35:22,620 --> 00:35:24,540
What's our alternative, Jamie?
893
00:35:24,540 --> 00:35:25,540
Make a civil commitment.
894
00:35:25,900 --> 00:35:27,640
Declare Henry not competent
to stand trial.
895
00:35:27,780 --> 00:35:29,380
He goes to a secure psychiatric
facility.
896
00:35:29,740 --> 00:35:31,742
So some shrink can release him
a few years from now?
897
00:35:32,420 --> 00:35:33,504
No, I don't think so.
898
00:35:33,780 --> 00:35:36,020
And what would be the basis
for his incompetency?
899
00:35:37,060 --> 00:35:38,400
Henry has
a mental defect.
900
00:35:39,660 --> 00:35:40,880
He was thrown
from a horse
901
00:35:41,020 --> 00:35:41,860
when he was six.
902
00:35:42,420 --> 00:35:43,260
He had seizures.
903
00:35:43,460 --> 00:35:44,940
They thought there was
brain damage.
904
00:35:45,649 --> 00:35:46,984
You're joking.
905
00:35:47,860 --> 00:35:48,700
We have no illusions
906
00:35:48,820 --> 00:35:50,000
about our son,
Ms. Carmichael.
907
00:35:51,340 --> 00:35:52,740
We're just trying
to figure this out.
908
00:35:54,660 --> 00:35:56,700
Well, it sounds like
you're looking for a way out.
909
00:35:56,700 --> 00:35:58,920
I have three other children,
good kids.
910
00:36:00,060 --> 00:36:00,960
I don't want them hurt
911
00:36:01,100 --> 00:36:03,820
I also don't want
Henry in Sing Sing
912
00:36:03,980 --> 00:36:05,020
for the rest
of his life.
913
00:36:06,060 --> 00:36:06,900
Not at 16.
914
00:36:08,590 --> 00:36:10,230
At least let him
talk to Skoda, Jack.
915
00:36:10,790 --> 00:36:12,792
What harm is there in that?
916
00:36:18,190 --> 00:36:19,030
I hear you draw.
917
00:36:20,017 --> 00:36:22,769
Yeah.
918
00:36:23,910 --> 00:36:26,579
You any good?
919
00:36:26,663 --> 00:36:27,664
Don't know.
920
00:36:29,110 --> 00:36:29,950
How did you feel
921
00:36:29,950 --> 00:36:33,070
when those kids urinated on that picture
you made and stuck it
922
00:36:33,110 --> 00:36:34,570
in your backpack?
923
00:36:36,655 --> 00:36:38,073
The way this
works, Henry
924
00:36:38,230 --> 00:36:39,830
is you answer
my questions
925
00:36:40,470 --> 00:36:41,670
and then I talk to the D.A.
926
00:36:41,670 --> 00:36:44,330
and tell them what I think
about what you said.
927
00:36:46,230 --> 00:36:48,315
Can you do that?
928
00:36:50,910 --> 00:36:51,750
Have a seat.
929
00:37:01,710 --> 00:37:06,006
These kids at school
were pretty rough on you?
930
00:37:06,150 --> 00:37:07,180
They never left me alone.
931
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:09,520
Was that what
you wanted?
932
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,606
To be left alone?
933
00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:15,765
I wanted to fit in.
934
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,616
Why do you think you didn't?
935
00:37:22,536 --> 00:37:23,600
Don't know.
936
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:24,560
You must have
some idea.
937
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,320
When we lived in Virginia
it was different.
938
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:31,540
There weren't so many of them.
939
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,600
Then my dad got this new job
in the city.
940
00:37:39,240 --> 00:37:40,420
Guess they all thought
I was different.
941
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,955
Did you feel
different?
942
00:37:43,997 --> 00:37:45,790
Maybe.
943
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,180
Still didn't give them any right
to trash me like they did.
944
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,403
You think they got
what they deserved then?
945
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:57,760
Not for me to say.
946
00:37:59,240 --> 00:38:00,080
Just the same
947
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,207
if you were
the one to say?
948
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,640
I don't know. Maybe.
949
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,240
I heard they're not making
fun of me anymore.
950
00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:15,452
I heard they're scared
I might come back.
951
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,488
That's sort of cool, right?
952
00:38:21,906 --> 00:38:23,400
If you're asking me if he knew
953
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:24,660
right from wrong--
no question.
954
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,040
If you're asking me
whether he should spend
955
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:28,380
the rest of his life
in prison
956
00:38:28,463 --> 00:38:29,423
tougher call.
957
00:38:29,506 --> 00:38:30,466
Why?
958
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,200
Because the fact remains
959
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,380
his teenage brain's different
from an adult's.
960
00:38:35,422 --> 00:38:36,673
Different how?
961
00:38:36,673 --> 00:38:37,883
Still maturing
962
00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:39,280
same as the rest of the body.
963
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:41,660
Frontal lobes,
parts responsible
964
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,450
for executive functioning,
self-control
965
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,375
judgment, emotional regulation.
966
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:48,660
We all went to high school.
967
00:38:48,702 --> 00:38:49,662
We all had problems.
968
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,840
None of us picked up a gun
and killed anyone.
969
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:53,960
I'm just saying
970
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,800
there's some science
behind the phenomenon.
971
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:57,717
Androgen, for example.
972
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,002
It affects the amygdala.
973
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:00,000
The part of the brain
974
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,940
that controls things
like fear and anger.
975
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,120
It's like I said.
976
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:04,930
If you're asking me
977
00:39:04,930 --> 00:39:06,210
if he knew right
from wrong, he did.
978
00:39:07,650 --> 00:39:08,630
The rest is up to you guys.
979
00:39:10,932 --> 00:39:11,772
Thanks for the grub.
980
00:39:11,772 --> 00:39:13,857
Sure thing.
981
00:39:17,890 --> 00:39:19,790
The bottom line is
your son was able
982
00:39:19,930 --> 00:39:21,650
to appreciate the nature
of his actions.
983
00:39:22,370 --> 00:39:24,370
And the PET scan showed
no organic injury
984
00:39:24,530 --> 00:39:25,930
to the brain
from any fall.
985
00:39:27,810 --> 00:39:29,645
Which means what?
986
00:39:29,770 --> 00:39:30,610
They're going to trial.
987
00:39:30,970 --> 00:39:32,130
Unless your client
wants to save
988
00:39:32,210 --> 00:39:33,310
the taxpayers some money.
989
00:39:33,970 --> 00:39:35,722
A roll of the dice, Jack?
990
00:39:35,970 --> 00:39:36,930
Think of the what's at stake.
991
00:39:37,890 --> 00:39:38,730
We'll take
our chances.
992
00:39:39,690 --> 00:39:40,530
You'll take your chances.
993
00:39:42,570 --> 00:39:46,074
Then what the hell happens when they find
him not guilty?
994
00:39:46,115 --> 00:39:47,241
Bill...
995
00:39:47,283 --> 00:39:48,610
No.
996
00:39:48,610 --> 00:39:51,370
What are we all going
to do then?
997
00:39:51,370 --> 00:39:53,030
I'll tell you what. Nothing.
998
00:39:55,130 --> 00:39:56,290
Because then he'll be out.
999
00:39:57,330 --> 00:39:59,190
He'll be out and maybe hurt
other people.
1000
00:40:03,940 --> 00:40:05,400
Let him go to a hospital, Jack.
1001
00:40:06,180 --> 00:40:08,200
There's no basis for it
in the law.
1002
00:40:08,580 --> 00:40:11,060
An insanity plea
would be a fraud here.
1003
00:40:11,340 --> 00:40:12,340
And an acquittal?
1004
00:40:12,340 --> 00:40:14,383
What will that be?
1005
00:40:16,780 --> 00:40:17,620
He hurt our daughter...
1006
00:40:19,540 --> 00:40:20,380
two years ago.
1007
00:40:21,700 --> 00:40:22,540
He broke her arm.
1008
00:40:23,900 --> 00:40:25,160
And now he walks
around the house...
1009
00:40:25,202 --> 00:40:26,828
Bill, please.
1010
00:40:28,260 --> 00:40:29,220
He's our son.
1011
00:40:31,900 --> 00:40:36,195
Yes, he's our son.
1012
00:40:36,237 --> 00:40:39,180
Then how can we?
1013
00:40:39,180 --> 00:40:42,601
How can you what, Mr. Semple?
1014
00:40:48,740 --> 00:40:50,020
He'll spend the rest of his life
in prison.
1015
00:40:50,180 --> 00:40:51,640
You realize that?
1016
00:40:51,682 --> 00:40:54,685
Mr. Semple.
1017
00:40:56,144 --> 00:40:58,647
Bill...
1018
00:40:58,689 --> 00:41:02,276
No, please.
1019
00:41:05,150 --> 00:41:07,710
What choice do I have, Patricia?
1020
00:41:07,710 --> 00:41:11,547
Please, tell me
what choice do I have.
1021
00:41:11,589 --> 00:41:14,842
Sweet Jesus!
1022
00:41:18,763 --> 00:41:22,183
He confessed...
1023
00:41:22,225 --> 00:41:24,018
okay?
1024
00:41:25,150 --> 00:41:26,470
My son confessed to me.
1025
00:41:49,430 --> 00:41:52,150
Where did this conversation take
place?
1026
00:41:52,150 --> 00:41:53,090
In my son's room.
1027
00:41:53,830 --> 00:41:54,670
It was personal.
1028
00:41:55,550 --> 00:41:57,050
That was between
you and me.
1029
00:41:58,070 --> 00:42:00,300
Control your client, Ms. Ross.
1030
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,643
What did you son say to you, Mr.
Semple?
1031
00:42:07,685 --> 00:42:08,645
Mr. Semple
1032
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,471
what did your son tell you?
1033
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,980
I came home as soon
as my wife called me
1034
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:19,860
and told me what happened
at the school.
1035
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:22,960
I asked her where Henry was.
1036
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,320
When I went into his room
he was just sitting on his bed.
1037
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:29,200
The lights weren't on
1038
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:30,500
but I could tell
that he'd been crying.
1039
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:32,599
What did you do?
1040
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:39,380
I put my arm around him
and sat next to him.
1041
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,509
What did he say?
1042
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:44,680
That he was scared.
1043
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,200
Scared about going to school.
1044
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:51,413
Scared of what some of the other
kids might do to him?
1045
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,080
Scared about what
he'd done to them.
1046
00:43:00,010 --> 00:43:03,770
Scared that he missed
some of the real jerks
1047
00:43:04,090 --> 00:43:06,490
and wouldn't get a chance
to take them out again before...
1048
00:43:11,570 --> 00:43:15,866
What made you finally come
forward, Mr. Semple?
1049
00:43:21,770 --> 00:43:22,910
Because I'm scared, too.
1050
00:43:23,810 --> 00:43:25,030
Scared that he'll do it again.
1051
00:43:30,494 --> 00:43:32,120
Henry...
1052
00:43:34,810 --> 00:43:39,273
Henry, for God's sakes...
1053
00:43:50,850 --> 00:43:52,330
I understand from your note
1054
00:43:52,530 --> 00:43:53,650
the jury's reached a verdict.
1055
00:43:54,770 --> 00:43:55,650
We have, Your Honor.
1056
00:43:57,250 --> 00:44:00,587
Will the defendant
please rise?
1057
00:44:03,730 --> 00:44:04,610
You may read the verdict.
1058
00:44:06,530 --> 00:44:08,490
On the first four counts
of the indictment
1059
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charging Murder
in the Second Degree
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00:44:11,410 --> 00:44:13,890
we find the defendant,
Henry Semple
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00:44:13,932 --> 00:44:16,309
guilty.
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00:44:23,358 --> 00:44:25,235
Daddy?
1063
00:44:47,610 --> 00:44:49,810
I understand his father's going
to ask for leniency
1064
00:44:50,050 --> 00:44:50,890
at the sentencing?
1065
00:44:51,930 --> 00:44:53,430
I doubt anything's going
to save this kid
1066
00:44:53,530 --> 00:44:55,060
from life in prison
at this point.
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With what's waiting
for him
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00:44:58,660 --> 00:45:00,280
it might have been kinder
to give him the needle.
1069
00:45:02,220 --> 00:45:03,180
Either works for me.
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