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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,711 --> 00:00:03,753 the people are represented 2 00:00:03,795 --> 00:00:06,297 by two separate yet equally important groups: 3 00:00:06,339 --> 00:00:08,091 the police, who investigate crime 4 00:00:08,133 --> 00:00:11,136 and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:11,177 --> 00:00:12,679 These are their stories. 6 00:00:14,597 --> 00:00:15,348 Come on, Poppy 7 00:00:15,390 --> 00:00:17,183 it's too damn cold out here for this. 8 00:00:17,225 --> 00:00:18,601 Too cold? What'd I raise here 9 00:00:18,643 --> 00:00:20,145 a man or a ratoncito? 10 00:00:20,186 --> 00:00:21,646 Actually, you didn't raise me at all. 11 00:00:21,730 --> 00:00:22,939 Mommy raised me. 12 00:00:22,981 --> 00:00:24,399 You were always too busy working. 13 00:00:24,441 --> 00:00:26,651 Yeah, putting clothes on everybody's back 14 00:00:26,693 --> 00:00:27,986 taking care of the family. 15 00:00:28,028 --> 00:00:29,029 Just be quiet now. 16 00:00:29,070 --> 00:00:30,613 You're scaring away my fish. 17 00:00:30,655 --> 00:00:33,533 Look, can we just go over to Gristedes and buy some? 18 00:00:33,575 --> 00:00:36,119 I promise to let you tell everybody you caught it, okay? 19 00:00:36,161 --> 00:00:38,663 When you do a job, you do it right. 20 00:00:38,705 --> 00:00:39,664 Oh, oh. 21 00:00:39,706 --> 00:00:41,166 I think I got a nibble. 22 00:00:43,043 --> 00:00:44,044 Damn, it's heavy. 23 00:00:44,085 --> 00:00:45,712 It's probably all the mercury. 24 00:00:45,754 --> 00:00:47,714 Give me a hand here, hurry up. 25 00:00:50,717 --> 00:00:53,053 Dios mio, Pa. 26 00:00:55,347 --> 00:00:58,308 So what's the story, girl meets bridge? 27 00:00:58,350 --> 00:01:01,311 Girl meets bullet, then girl meets river. 28 00:01:01,353 --> 00:01:02,604 I love a happy ending. 29 00:01:02,646 --> 00:01:04,105 Any idea how long ago? 30 00:01:04,147 --> 00:01:04,939 Hard to say. 31 00:01:04,981 --> 00:01:07,108 With the bloating and decomposition 32 00:01:07,150 --> 00:01:08,068 three, maybe four weeks. 33 00:01:08,109 --> 00:01:11,112 You didn't find any ID floating around, did you? 34 00:01:11,154 --> 00:01:13,156 No, just the clothes she went in with. 35 00:01:16,284 --> 00:01:18,244 Looks like somebody did a number on her face. 36 00:01:18,286 --> 00:01:20,747 Something, more likely. 37 00:01:20,789 --> 00:01:24,000 Fish... they go for the eyes first. 38 00:02:15,218 --> 00:02:17,137 Victim's between 25 and 35, five feet, six inches. 39 00:02:17,178 --> 00:02:19,472 Death was caused by a single .22 caliber slug 40 00:02:19,514 --> 00:02:20,765 to the left temporal region. 41 00:02:20,807 --> 00:02:22,767 Blow back. Up close and personal. 42 00:02:22,809 --> 00:02:24,227 Any sign of sexual assault? 43 00:02:24,269 --> 00:02:26,146 That long in the river, I couldn't tell you. 44 00:02:26,187 --> 00:02:28,314 What about her clothes? Anything there? 45 00:02:28,356 --> 00:02:30,817 Mass-manufactured; nothing unusual. 46 00:02:30,859 --> 00:02:32,736 You might check out her belt buckle though. 47 00:02:32,777 --> 00:02:34,237 Looks hand-crafted. 48 00:02:34,279 --> 00:02:36,448 There's an insignia stamped into the silver. 49 00:02:36,489 --> 00:02:38,116 Could be Native American. 50 00:02:38,158 --> 00:02:40,577 American Indian museum downtown might give us a leg up. 51 00:02:40,618 --> 00:02:43,288 Jane Doe with a buckle. Another promising start. 52 00:02:43,330 --> 00:02:46,207 Actually, I'm thinking more like Jane Dietrich. 53 00:02:46,249 --> 00:02:47,292 Given her dental work 54 00:02:47,334 --> 00:02:49,169 she's probably a German national. 55 00:02:49,210 --> 00:02:50,128 How do you know that? 56 00:02:50,170 --> 00:02:52,714 Stateside metal crowns are usually custom-made 57 00:02:52,756 --> 00:02:54,299 from gold or silver. 58 00:02:54,341 --> 00:02:57,385 Hers are generically stamped out of stainless steel. 59 00:02:57,385 --> 00:02:58,178 We don't do that? 60 00:02:58,219 --> 00:03:00,388 Couple of quack dentists in Texas tried 61 00:03:00,430 --> 00:03:03,892 but this technique's definitely German. 62 00:03:03,933 --> 00:03:05,101 We figure she either 63 00:03:05,143 --> 00:03:07,771 emigrated to the U.S. or she came here on a tourist visa. 64 00:03:07,812 --> 00:03:09,189 You talk with the Consulate? 65 00:03:09,230 --> 00:03:10,273 Mm-hmm-- no German nationals 66 00:03:10,315 --> 00:03:11,775 reported missing in New York State. 67 00:03:11,816 --> 00:03:14,235 Now with Argentina, it's a whole different story. 68 00:03:14,277 --> 00:03:15,695 What about travel visas? 69 00:03:15,737 --> 00:03:18,573 Over 6,000 in the past three months. 70 00:03:18,615 --> 00:03:20,241 Hey, the dollar's down. 71 00:03:20,283 --> 00:03:23,411 And of those, 2,346 went to females 72 00:03:23,453 --> 00:03:25,455 between the ages of 25 and 35. 73 00:03:25,497 --> 00:03:26,831 It'll take us till Oktoberfest 74 00:03:26,873 --> 00:03:28,249 to run through all of them. 75 00:03:28,291 --> 00:03:29,209 That's it? 76 00:03:29,250 --> 00:03:30,377 We sent her dental records 77 00:03:30,418 --> 00:03:31,753 to the Fatherland. 78 00:03:31,795 --> 00:03:33,380 That could take months. 79 00:03:33,421 --> 00:03:35,715 In the meantime, let's work with what we've got. 80 00:03:38,301 --> 00:03:40,303 Littlemoon Birdsong? 81 00:03:40,345 --> 00:03:41,554 If this is about those parking tickets 82 00:03:41,596 --> 00:03:44,474 I was going to send a check tomorrow, I swear. Take it easy. 83 00:03:44,516 --> 00:03:46,351 You're not going to lose your micro-bus. 84 00:03:46,393 --> 00:03:47,644 We're Homicide. 85 00:03:47,686 --> 00:03:48,687 Homicide? 86 00:03:48,728 --> 00:03:50,271 The curator at the Indian Museum 87 00:03:50,313 --> 00:03:51,648 thought this might be your work. 88 00:03:53,984 --> 00:03:55,694 Yeah, that's mine. 89 00:03:55,735 --> 00:03:58,321 I did a series of them last year 90 00:03:58,363 --> 00:03:59,197 but I don't understand 91 00:03:59,239 --> 00:04:01,199 what this has to do with a homicide. 92 00:04:01,282 --> 00:04:02,659 The victim was wearing that buckle 93 00:04:02,701 --> 00:04:04,744 when she was killed. 94 00:04:07,539 --> 00:04:10,625 Actually, it's an Apache peace symbol. 95 00:04:10,667 --> 00:04:12,544 Didn't protect them much, either. 96 00:04:12,585 --> 00:04:15,296 We're going to need a list of your customers. 97 00:04:15,296 --> 00:04:17,257 I don't do retail. 98 00:04:17,298 --> 00:04:20,468 Credit card receipts, sales tax, marketing plans... 99 00:04:20,510 --> 00:04:22,679 a little too time consuming. 100 00:04:22,721 --> 00:04:24,431 So where do you sell your work? 101 00:04:24,472 --> 00:04:26,599 A little boutique in Chelsea. 102 00:04:28,351 --> 00:04:31,312 I let them deal with the headaches now. 103 00:04:31,354 --> 00:04:32,897 I wish we all could. 104 00:04:32,939 --> 00:04:33,940 Thanks. 105 00:04:35,984 --> 00:04:38,361 Littlemoon Birdsong, my ass. 106 00:04:38,403 --> 00:04:40,697 Her name's Linda Epstein from Cedarhurst. 107 00:04:40,739 --> 00:04:42,407 Different tribe altogether. 108 00:04:42,449 --> 00:04:43,366 Yeah. I sold this. 109 00:04:43,408 --> 00:04:44,492 It's some sort of peace thing. 110 00:04:44,534 --> 00:04:47,370 We're trying to locate the woman who may have bought it. 111 00:04:47,412 --> 00:04:49,706 You remember everyone you arrest, Detective? 112 00:04:49,748 --> 00:04:51,374 She might've had a German accent. 113 00:04:51,416 --> 00:04:54,419 Everybody's got an accent these days. 114 00:04:54,461 --> 00:04:57,297 Okay, what about credit card records, sales receipts? 115 00:04:57,338 --> 00:04:59,549 You understand we're mostly a cash business. 116 00:04:59,591 --> 00:05:01,968 We're not interested in your relationship 117 00:05:02,010 --> 00:05:03,553 with the tax collector, Miss Martin. 118 00:05:03,595 --> 00:05:05,388 We just want to know who bought the buckle. 119 00:05:05,430 --> 00:05:07,849 Well, a lot of our customers sign our mailing list. 120 00:05:07,891 --> 00:05:09,350 Would that do it? 121 00:05:09,392 --> 00:05:11,311 We're going to need everything. 122 00:05:11,353 --> 00:05:12,896 Now, the list I need back next week. 123 00:05:12,937 --> 00:05:14,731 We're sending out a new mailer. 124 00:05:14,773 --> 00:05:16,483 Indonesian Death Masks. 125 00:05:19,527 --> 00:05:21,404 Guys, here's the missing persons-- 126 00:05:21,446 --> 00:05:22,864 the whole tristate area. 127 00:05:22,906 --> 00:05:24,407 They go back six months, right? 128 00:05:24,449 --> 00:05:25,575 Just like you asked, Detective. 129 00:05:25,617 --> 00:05:27,410 Thank you. 130 00:05:27,452 --> 00:05:29,412 Another no answer. 131 00:05:29,454 --> 00:05:30,622 That makes seven. 132 00:05:30,663 --> 00:05:31,706 Yeah. 133 00:05:31,748 --> 00:05:34,417 Oh, okay. 134 00:05:34,459 --> 00:05:35,418 Thanks, anyway. 135 00:05:35,460 --> 00:05:37,045 Yeah, I'll tell him. 136 00:05:37,087 --> 00:05:38,755 Chessie Shaw, New Milford, New Jersey 137 00:05:38,797 --> 00:05:39,881 alive and well. 138 00:05:39,923 --> 00:05:41,883 You tell her about the Death Masks? 139 00:05:41,925 --> 00:05:43,343 That's everybody on my list. 140 00:05:43,385 --> 00:05:44,761 What does that leave us with? 141 00:05:44,803 --> 00:05:47,806 That's seven no answers, a disconnect 142 00:05:47,847 --> 00:05:50,308 and five unlisted numbers. 143 00:05:50,392 --> 00:05:51,768 Any luck so far? 144 00:05:51,810 --> 00:05:53,561 I figure either 145 00:05:53,603 --> 00:05:55,563 our Lady of the Hudson wasn't on the mailing list 146 00:05:55,605 --> 00:05:57,357 or the belt buckle was a gift. 147 00:05:57,399 --> 00:05:58,733 Here's something. 148 00:05:58,775 --> 00:05:59,567 Karen Hall. 149 00:05:59,609 --> 00:06:01,736 Investigator in the New York State 150 00:06:01,778 --> 00:06:04,656 Attorney General's Criminal Division upstate. 151 00:06:04,698 --> 00:06:05,782 Disappeared six weeks ago. 152 00:06:05,824 --> 00:06:07,951 That could be my Albany disconnect. 153 00:06:07,992 --> 00:06:10,453 Same age and height. 154 00:06:10,495 --> 00:06:11,538 The hair color's similar 155 00:06:11,579 --> 00:06:13,665 but I thought we were looking for a German national. 156 00:06:13,707 --> 00:06:14,708 Says in her bio her father 157 00:06:14,749 --> 00:06:17,502 was a bird Colonel in the Army stationed in... 158 00:06:17,544 --> 00:06:19,295 Germany. 159 00:06:19,337 --> 00:06:22,048 Eight years. Moved to Albany in '89. 160 00:06:27,345 --> 00:06:28,888 We were army brats 161 00:06:28,930 --> 00:06:31,016 Baden Spa, Berlin. 162 00:06:31,057 --> 00:06:33,643 My sisters and me, we spent our childhoods 163 00:06:33,685 --> 00:06:35,478 being dragged from base to base. 164 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,481 Karen was the only one who seemed to enjoy it. 165 00:06:38,523 --> 00:06:39,983 She loved meeting new people. 166 00:06:40,025 --> 00:06:41,484 When was the last time 167 00:06:41,526 --> 00:06:42,777 you had contact with your sister? 168 00:06:42,819 --> 00:06:44,779 The day she disappeared. 169 00:06:44,821 --> 00:06:47,490 Karen was in Manhattan on a work assignment. 170 00:06:47,532 --> 00:06:48,450 We spoke on the phone. 171 00:06:48,491 --> 00:06:50,452 I didn't realize it would be 172 00:06:50,493 --> 00:06:51,828 the last time I'd hear her voice. 173 00:06:51,870 --> 00:06:54,748 When you say "work assignment" 174 00:06:54,789 --> 00:06:56,750 you mean for the Attorney General's office? 175 00:06:56,791 --> 00:06:58,543 Right. 176 00:06:58,585 --> 00:07:00,462 Any idea what she was working on? 177 00:07:00,503 --> 00:07:02,672 She didn't talk about her job much. 178 00:07:02,714 --> 00:07:04,507 She took it seriously though. 179 00:07:04,549 --> 00:07:05,550 What time was it 180 00:07:05,592 --> 00:07:06,718 when you spoke to her? 181 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,636 Maybe 5:00, 5:30. 182 00:07:08,636 --> 00:07:10,055 Did she say where she was? 183 00:07:10,096 --> 00:07:11,473 She was on her cell phone. 184 00:07:11,514 --> 00:07:14,476 I thought maybe we could have an early dinner 185 00:07:14,517 --> 00:07:18,104 but Karen said it would have to be another time. 186 00:07:18,146 --> 00:07:20,398 She was heading to catch the Amtrak 187 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:21,566 back to Albany. 188 00:07:21,608 --> 00:07:23,902 You know, I told all this 189 00:07:23,943 --> 00:07:25,695 to the State Troopers when they were here. 190 00:07:25,737 --> 00:07:27,072 This is just routine, Mr. Hall. 191 00:07:27,113 --> 00:07:28,823 Did Karen have any friends in Manhattan? 192 00:07:28,865 --> 00:07:32,494 Somebody who might've changed her mind about going home? 193 00:07:32,535 --> 00:07:35,580 She'd only been to the city maybe once or twice. 194 00:07:35,622 --> 00:07:38,541 She didn't know anyone here outside of work. 195 00:07:38,583 --> 00:07:41,002 And you reported her missing the following Monday? 196 00:07:41,044 --> 00:07:43,088 She was supposed to go furniture shopping 197 00:07:43,129 --> 00:07:45,507 with Nancy in Rhinebeck 198 00:07:45,548 --> 00:07:49,677 but she never showed up. 199 00:07:49,719 --> 00:07:51,513 You guys got any idea 200 00:07:51,554 --> 00:07:53,139 who did this to her? 201 00:07:53,181 --> 00:07:55,100 We're working on it, Mr. Hall. 202 00:07:55,141 --> 00:07:58,520 Well, work hard. 203 00:07:58,561 --> 00:08:00,814 'Cause Karen was the baby of the family. 204 00:08:00,855 --> 00:08:04,651 She was the favorite, you know? 205 00:08:04,693 --> 00:08:07,070 And I was her big brother. 206 00:08:09,030 --> 00:08:11,950 Karen started with the office's upstate division 207 00:08:11,992 --> 00:08:14,828 five years ago as a paralegal in Mr. Conroy's bureau. 208 00:08:14,869 --> 00:08:17,247 When did she get the bump up to investigator? 209 00:08:17,288 --> 00:08:19,874 I signed off on her promotion only six months ago 210 00:08:19,916 --> 00:08:22,502 which is what makes what happened such a waste. 211 00:08:22,544 --> 00:08:23,837 Karen was something 212 00:08:23,878 --> 00:08:25,463 of a project in the bureau. 213 00:08:25,505 --> 00:08:26,381 Project? 214 00:08:26,423 --> 00:08:27,882 It was obvious from the beginning 215 00:08:27,924 --> 00:08:29,592 that she had a real feel for the work. 216 00:08:29,634 --> 00:08:30,593 It all came naturally to her. 217 00:08:30,635 --> 00:08:32,595 Karen just lacked some of the formal training 218 00:08:32,637 --> 00:08:34,597 and education she needed to move forward. 219 00:08:34,639 --> 00:08:35,849 Eventually, it all came together. 220 00:08:35,890 --> 00:08:38,601 You have any working theories? 221 00:08:38,643 --> 00:08:39,436 Had 222 00:08:39,477 --> 00:08:41,813 until her body turned up in Manhattan. 223 00:08:41,855 --> 00:08:43,606 We have a witness that puts her 224 00:08:43,648 --> 00:08:45,525 in the Albany train station at 9:30 that night. 225 00:08:45,567 --> 00:08:47,652 And confirms her brother's story 226 00:08:47,694 --> 00:08:50,488 that she was taking the 6:45 from Manhattan. 227 00:08:50,572 --> 00:08:52,490 Timing worked. 228 00:08:52,532 --> 00:08:55,243 Ms. Shore, we're going to need to follow up on the interviews. 229 00:08:55,285 --> 00:08:56,202 Of course. 230 00:08:56,244 --> 00:08:58,621 I'll help you guys out with anything you need. 231 00:09:01,207 --> 00:09:03,668 The car was locked. No sign of a break-in. 232 00:09:03,710 --> 00:09:05,587 We figured she was snatched somewhere between 233 00:09:05,628 --> 00:09:07,464 the platform and the parking lot. 234 00:09:07,505 --> 00:09:10,216 I would've come to the same conclusion. 235 00:09:10,258 --> 00:09:12,552 Either of you know Miss Hall personally? 236 00:09:12,594 --> 00:09:13,970 Just to say hello. 237 00:09:14,012 --> 00:09:15,638 I worked a case with her once 238 00:09:15,680 --> 00:09:16,598 when she was a paralegal. 239 00:09:16,639 --> 00:09:17,432 She was good people. 240 00:09:17,474 --> 00:09:19,934 You find any signs of personal problems 241 00:09:19,976 --> 00:09:21,895 while you were knocking around? 242 00:09:21,936 --> 00:09:23,772 No, no debts no drugs, no gambling. 243 00:09:23,813 --> 00:09:26,191 Nothing out of the ordinary. 244 00:09:26,232 --> 00:09:27,692 So no death threats, huh? 245 00:09:27,734 --> 00:09:30,695 She have any overdue library books 246 00:09:30,737 --> 00:09:31,488 in her apartment? 247 00:09:31,529 --> 00:09:33,615 Just a half-starved cocker spaniel 248 00:09:33,657 --> 00:09:35,533 and a closet full of clothes. 249 00:09:35,575 --> 00:09:37,619 It was pretty much a cold trail after the station. 250 00:09:37,660 --> 00:09:38,536 What about 251 00:09:38,578 --> 00:09:40,705 this newsstand guy that saw her that night? 252 00:09:40,747 --> 00:09:41,790 Hard-working. 253 00:09:41,790 --> 00:09:42,916 Turkish. 254 00:09:42,957 --> 00:09:45,126 Been at the station over ten years. 255 00:09:45,168 --> 00:09:46,753 We're going to need to talk to him. 256 00:09:46,795 --> 00:09:47,921 I'll run you 257 00:09:47,962 --> 00:09:49,255 right over now if you want. 258 00:09:51,674 --> 00:09:52,592 I told the truth. 259 00:09:52,634 --> 00:09:54,636 Nothing but the truth. 260 00:09:54,677 --> 00:09:56,763 Nobody's accusing you of lying, Mr. Hoca. 261 00:09:56,805 --> 00:09:57,847 Take your time, sir. 262 00:09:57,889 --> 00:09:59,724 This lady in the picture 263 00:09:59,766 --> 00:10:00,517 she came in on the train 264 00:10:00,558 --> 00:10:03,103 on the night of the 19th of February 265 00:10:03,144 --> 00:10:05,605 and bought magazines in my kiosk. 266 00:10:05,647 --> 00:10:07,232 Then she walk away 267 00:10:07,273 --> 00:10:10,735 out that... out that door? 268 00:10:10,777 --> 00:10:13,738 Are you asking or telling? 269 00:10:13,780 --> 00:10:15,156 I think this is the truth. 270 00:10:15,156 --> 00:10:17,367 Yeah, but you didn't actually see her 271 00:10:17,409 --> 00:10:18,785 get off the train, right? 272 00:10:18,827 --> 00:10:19,953 Me? No. 273 00:10:19,995 --> 00:10:21,287 The troopers 274 00:10:21,329 --> 00:10:23,039 they say she was on the train. 275 00:10:23,081 --> 00:10:25,625 Can you describe this woman, Mr. Hoca? 276 00:10:25,667 --> 00:10:30,588 Blond hair, middle height... middle weight. 277 00:10:30,630 --> 00:10:34,092 Was she dragging a flower travel bag? 278 00:10:34,134 --> 00:10:36,136 You know the kind you wheel around? 279 00:10:36,177 --> 00:10:38,638 Yes, I remember. I see that. 280 00:10:40,181 --> 00:10:41,725 Thank you very much, sir. 281 00:10:41,766 --> 00:10:44,686 It's okay? I did good? 282 00:10:44,728 --> 00:10:46,813 Oh, you did fine. 283 00:10:49,107 --> 00:10:50,692 He's the most convincing witness 284 00:10:50,734 --> 00:10:51,568 I've heard since Kato Kaelin. 285 00:10:51,609 --> 00:10:53,737 He seemed solid when we interviewed him. 286 00:10:53,778 --> 00:10:55,780 Who else did you talk to during your investigation? 287 00:10:55,822 --> 00:10:57,657 Hey, we did our damn job. 288 00:10:57,699 --> 00:10:59,284 Did you canvass the damn area? 289 00:10:59,326 --> 00:11:01,619 Did you talk to the regular damn commuters? 290 00:11:01,661 --> 00:11:02,620 Somebody on that train 291 00:11:02,662 --> 00:11:03,747 must've remembered seeing her. 292 00:11:03,788 --> 00:11:06,624 Did you talk to the conductors, the other vendors? 293 00:11:06,666 --> 00:11:07,917 Hey, we talked to everybody, okay? 294 00:11:07,959 --> 00:11:09,669 The Turk was the only one who saw her. 295 00:11:09,711 --> 00:11:11,796 And that didn't tell you something? 296 00:11:11,838 --> 00:11:16,801 Look, I tell you something, it stays off the record. 297 00:11:16,843 --> 00:11:18,845 We're all cops here, man. 298 00:11:18,887 --> 00:11:21,681 Fact is, Jim and I had our own doubts. 299 00:11:21,723 --> 00:11:22,724 Doubts about what? 300 00:11:22,766 --> 00:11:25,060 About the direction the case was being steered 301 00:11:25,101 --> 00:11:26,936 by the AG's office. 302 00:11:26,978 --> 00:11:28,396 What direction was that? 303 00:11:28,438 --> 00:11:29,439 My personal opinion? 304 00:11:29,481 --> 00:11:31,900 And I don't have any evidence to support this... 305 00:11:31,941 --> 00:11:33,151 It's all right, I hear you. 306 00:11:33,193 --> 00:11:34,944 They glommed onto the train snatch theory 307 00:11:34,986 --> 00:11:36,112 for the wrong reasons. 308 00:11:36,154 --> 00:11:37,781 And the right reasons would be...? 309 00:11:37,822 --> 00:11:38,782 Let's just say 310 00:11:38,823 --> 00:11:39,866 I don't think the AG 311 00:11:39,908 --> 00:11:42,786 wanted to face the possibility that Karen Hall's killer 312 00:11:42,827 --> 00:11:44,788 might be some guy from one of their own 313 00:11:44,829 --> 00:11:45,872 case files. 314 00:11:52,587 --> 00:11:54,214 Well, naturally we considered the possibility 315 00:11:54,255 --> 00:11:55,131 it was work-related 316 00:11:55,173 --> 00:11:56,966 but we couldn't uncover any hard evidence 317 00:11:57,008 --> 00:11:58,051 to support the theory. 318 00:11:58,093 --> 00:12:00,095 With all due respect, Mr. Conroy 319 00:12:00,136 --> 00:12:01,596 how hard did you consider it? 320 00:12:01,638 --> 00:12:03,473 Well, we pulled our case files. 321 00:12:03,515 --> 00:12:05,266 We examined every possibility 322 00:12:05,308 --> 00:12:08,269 but, uh, all the evidence pointed back to Albany. 323 00:12:08,311 --> 00:12:10,355 We're going to need to go over all of her files-- 324 00:12:10,397 --> 00:12:12,107 everything she was working on at the time. 325 00:12:12,148 --> 00:12:14,401 Some of those cases are still pending. 326 00:12:14,442 --> 00:12:16,611 We're not going to compromise any of my investigations 327 00:12:16,653 --> 00:12:17,612 are we, Lieutenant? 328 00:12:17,654 --> 00:12:20,198 You can count on our discretion. 329 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:21,866 I don't see a problem. 330 00:12:21,950 --> 00:12:23,535 I'll have some of those case files 331 00:12:23,576 --> 00:12:26,663 uh, copied and sent off to your precinct. 332 00:12:26,705 --> 00:12:27,747 Well, I'd like to get my men started 333 00:12:27,789 --> 00:12:30,458 on the case she was working the day she disappeared. 334 00:12:30,500 --> 00:12:31,459 Alec... 335 00:12:31,501 --> 00:12:33,003 Uh, Nate Richards. 336 00:12:33,044 --> 00:12:34,045 Uh, nursing home fraud. 337 00:12:34,087 --> 00:12:35,380 It was a joint prosecution 338 00:12:35,422 --> 00:12:36,339 with the Feds. 339 00:12:36,381 --> 00:12:38,925 And Karen Hall was sent to Manhattan for what? 340 00:12:38,967 --> 00:12:40,093 Uh, we had 341 00:12:40,135 --> 00:12:41,094 a reluctant witness. 342 00:12:41,136 --> 00:12:42,220 I wanted Karen to hold her hand. 343 00:12:42,262 --> 00:12:43,680 Why was the witness reluctant? 344 00:12:43,722 --> 00:12:45,098 Defendant's ex. 345 00:12:45,140 --> 00:12:47,183 She was having second thoughts about testifying 346 00:12:47,225 --> 00:12:48,351 against him. 347 00:12:48,393 --> 00:12:49,686 And that aroused no suspicion? 348 00:12:49,728 --> 00:12:52,063 We had Richards interviewed extensively. 349 00:12:52,105 --> 00:12:53,023 It was a dead end 350 00:12:53,064 --> 00:12:55,942 but listen, I understand you have a job to do. 351 00:12:55,984 --> 00:12:58,111 Uh, I could make a call to the facility. 352 00:12:58,153 --> 00:13:01,197 Your guys are certainly welcome to take a stab at him. 353 00:13:03,199 --> 00:13:05,076 Like I told the guy from the AG's office 354 00:13:05,118 --> 00:13:07,662 I wouldn't know Karen Hall if I fell over the broad. 355 00:13:07,704 --> 00:13:08,747 Interesting choice of words. 356 00:13:08,788 --> 00:13:12,000 Miss Hall was one of the investigators on your case. 357 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,084 I never laid eyes on her. 358 00:13:13,126 --> 00:13:15,003 I mean, what is it with you guys? 359 00:13:15,003 --> 00:13:16,713 She was working with Angela Cofresta 360 00:13:16,755 --> 00:13:18,381 at the time of her disappearance. 361 00:13:18,423 --> 00:13:20,091 You remember Angela? 362 00:13:20,133 --> 00:13:22,552 Ah, bitch gave me up when I wouldn't 363 00:13:22,594 --> 00:13:23,553 leave my wife. 364 00:13:23,595 --> 00:13:25,221 Imagine that. 365 00:13:25,263 --> 00:13:28,183 We pulled your sheet, Nate. 366 00:13:28,224 --> 00:13:30,226 You had a little domestic history with this woman. 367 00:13:30,268 --> 00:13:32,020 Angela dropped those charges. 368 00:13:32,062 --> 00:13:34,439 Yeah. We noticed that, too. 369 00:13:34,481 --> 00:13:37,108 'Cause you smacked her around a little bit, right? 370 00:13:37,150 --> 00:13:39,694 Only this time they gave her a baby-sitter. 371 00:13:39,736 --> 00:13:42,072 I was looking at 26 months on that fraud charge. 372 00:13:42,113 --> 00:13:44,157 You think I'm going to threaten a federal witness? 373 00:13:44,199 --> 00:13:45,742 Cap a state investigator? 374 00:13:45,784 --> 00:13:49,037 can't live with them, can't kill them, huh, Nate? 375 00:13:49,079 --> 00:13:50,163 You got any idea how far 376 00:13:50,205 --> 00:13:52,624 that would push me along on the sentencing guidelines? 377 00:13:52,666 --> 00:13:55,377 I mean, I'd need a nursing home myself by the time I got out. 378 00:13:55,418 --> 00:13:57,045 Can you account for your whereabouts 379 00:13:57,087 --> 00:13:58,129 on the night of February 19? 380 00:13:58,171 --> 00:14:02,217 Yeah. Where every good defendant is supposed to be-- 381 00:14:02,258 --> 00:14:05,053 in my lawyer's office. 382 00:14:05,095 --> 00:14:08,264 Testifying against Nate was the hardest thing I ever did. 383 00:14:08,306 --> 00:14:09,391 I was scared of him. 384 00:14:09,432 --> 00:14:11,142 But you went through with it. 385 00:14:11,184 --> 00:14:12,310 Yeah. 386 00:14:12,352 --> 00:14:14,229 I went through with it. 387 00:14:14,270 --> 00:14:17,315 Karen made me think about all those old people 388 00:14:17,357 --> 00:14:19,150 how they were suffering. 389 00:14:19,192 --> 00:14:22,153 I never thought about it like that before. 390 00:14:22,195 --> 00:14:24,489 Miss Cofresta, you had a meeting with Miss Hall 391 00:14:24,531 --> 00:14:26,783 at around 2:00 p.m. the day she disappeared? 392 00:14:26,825 --> 00:14:28,201 We talked a lot on the phone. 393 00:14:28,243 --> 00:14:30,245 Karen came down just to be with me. 394 00:14:30,286 --> 00:14:32,038 What'd you talk about? 395 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,082 Mostly stuff about the case 396 00:14:34,124 --> 00:14:35,625 going over stuff. 397 00:14:35,667 --> 00:14:37,752 And we talked about men-- 398 00:14:37,794 --> 00:14:39,504 older men, married men. 399 00:14:39,546 --> 00:14:41,589 How they try to control you. 400 00:14:41,631 --> 00:14:43,341 She really understood. 401 00:14:43,383 --> 00:14:45,510 Did she talk about the men in her life? 402 00:14:45,552 --> 00:14:47,178 No, not really 403 00:14:47,262 --> 00:14:48,346 but I kind of got the feeling 404 00:14:48,388 --> 00:14:50,098 she was dating an older guy, too. 405 00:14:50,140 --> 00:14:51,349 She mention anything about him? 406 00:14:51,391 --> 00:14:52,684 A name? 407 00:14:52,726 --> 00:14:54,102 Anything at all? 408 00:14:54,144 --> 00:14:55,311 Just that it was over. 409 00:14:55,353 --> 00:14:56,813 What time did she leave? 410 00:14:56,855 --> 00:15:00,525 Maybe 4:00, I think. 411 00:15:00,567 --> 00:15:02,861 It was a long time ago, you know? 412 00:15:02,902 --> 00:15:04,446 I do remember she said 413 00:15:04,487 --> 00:15:07,240 she had a late meeting in the city that night 414 00:15:07,282 --> 00:15:11,244 and I could call her if I started stressing out again. 415 00:15:11,286 --> 00:15:14,664 Maybe if I did, she'd still be alive. 416 00:15:14,706 --> 00:15:16,207 She was staying late in town? 417 00:15:16,249 --> 00:15:18,293 Told her brother she had to get back to Albany 418 00:15:18,335 --> 00:15:19,377 to take care of her dog. 419 00:15:19,419 --> 00:15:21,504 She don't strike me as the type to lie to her brother. 420 00:15:21,546 --> 00:15:23,173 Or to let her dog starve to death. 421 00:15:23,214 --> 00:15:24,299 Maybe something came up at work. 422 00:15:24,341 --> 00:15:26,092 You'd think we'd have heard about it. 423 00:15:26,134 --> 00:15:27,635 Hey, you'd think. 424 00:15:27,677 --> 00:15:29,721 I want to work for the AG's office 425 00:15:29,763 --> 00:15:30,889 when I grow up. 426 00:15:30,930 --> 00:15:32,557 The Attorney General investigated 427 00:15:32,599 --> 00:15:35,310 the illegal billing practices at the Klensch Agency. 428 00:15:35,351 --> 00:15:38,229 Karen Hall personally interviewed 17 runway models. 429 00:15:38,271 --> 00:15:39,564 Maybe we should follow-up. 430 00:15:39,606 --> 00:15:41,399 It looks like Conroy was right on. 431 00:15:41,441 --> 00:15:44,194 From what I'm seeing, there's nothing life or death 432 00:15:44,235 --> 00:15:45,362 in these case files. 433 00:15:45,403 --> 00:15:47,155 Hey, Ed, when did Conroy say 434 00:15:47,197 --> 00:15:50,158 Karen got her first field assignment to the big city? 435 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:51,409 A couple months back. 436 00:15:51,451 --> 00:15:53,244 And her brother thought she was 437 00:15:53,286 --> 00:15:55,413 still getting her bearings around town. 438 00:15:55,455 --> 00:15:56,414 Right. 439 00:15:56,456 --> 00:15:57,582 So, how come she's got 440 00:15:57,624 --> 00:15:59,250 three Amtrak ticket stubs 441 00:15:59,292 --> 00:16:01,211 round-trip, Albany to New York 442 00:16:01,252 --> 00:16:02,796 going back more than a year? 443 00:16:02,837 --> 00:16:04,255 She goes down to the Big Apple 444 00:16:04,297 --> 00:16:05,340 she keeps it from her big brother 445 00:16:05,382 --> 00:16:06,549 and everyone else in her life. 446 00:16:06,591 --> 00:16:07,801 That can only mean one thing. 447 00:16:07,842 --> 00:16:09,803 A special friend? 448 00:16:09,844 --> 00:16:11,388 Mm-hmm. 449 00:16:13,682 --> 00:16:15,266 Karen had no time for boyfriends. 450 00:16:15,308 --> 00:16:16,226 She was so busy with work. 451 00:16:16,267 --> 00:16:17,560 God knows we tried 452 00:16:17,602 --> 00:16:19,437 but, uh, it was always one thing or another. 453 00:16:19,479 --> 00:16:21,731 Even if she had a boyfriend, she wouldn't have told me. 454 00:16:21,773 --> 00:16:22,691 With the age difference 455 00:16:22,732 --> 00:16:24,943 it was more like a father-daughter thing with us. 456 00:16:24,985 --> 00:16:28,363 Karen was seeing someone. 457 00:16:28,405 --> 00:16:30,156 Did she mention a name? 458 00:16:30,198 --> 00:16:30,949 She told you that? 459 00:16:30,990 --> 00:16:33,284 She didn't want people to know. 460 00:16:33,326 --> 00:16:34,411 We're "people"? 461 00:16:34,452 --> 00:16:36,830 Did she tell you who she was seeing? 462 00:16:36,871 --> 00:16:39,666 No... but he was married. 463 00:16:39,708 --> 00:16:41,167 Karen was going with a married guy? 464 00:16:41,209 --> 00:16:42,210 She told you that? 465 00:16:42,252 --> 00:16:43,086 She said it was over. 466 00:16:43,128 --> 00:16:45,338 And she never mentioned a name? 467 00:16:45,380 --> 00:16:47,465 She wouldn't say anything about him. 468 00:16:47,507 --> 00:16:50,301 She didn't want people at work to find out. 469 00:16:50,343 --> 00:16:52,345 Why didn't you tell all this to the troopers 470 00:16:52,387 --> 00:16:53,304 when she disappeared? 471 00:16:53,346 --> 00:16:54,848 I did. 472 00:16:54,889 --> 00:16:59,185 I told the investigators, but I didn't know who it was 473 00:16:59,227 --> 00:17:03,440 and Karen said it'd been over for a while. 474 00:17:03,481 --> 00:17:05,483 So, you're thinking it may be a romance gone sour? 475 00:17:05,525 --> 00:17:06,609 One of the sisters thinks 476 00:17:06,651 --> 00:17:08,236 it might have been an office thing. 477 00:17:08,278 --> 00:17:09,487 Did you call Albany and ask around? 478 00:17:09,529 --> 00:17:10,613 Yeah. No luck. 479 00:17:10,655 --> 00:17:12,449 It seems the lady was tight-lipped 480 00:17:12,490 --> 00:17:15,368 so we pulled all of her personal credit card receipts 481 00:17:15,410 --> 00:17:16,369 going back a year. 482 00:17:16,411 --> 00:17:19,330 Hotel, restaurant charges from all over the city 483 00:17:19,372 --> 00:17:20,290 last ten months. 484 00:17:20,332 --> 00:17:21,458 Busy girl. 485 00:17:21,499 --> 00:17:23,877 Up until a month before she disappeared. 486 00:17:23,918 --> 00:17:26,629 Right about the time Sis says the romance cooled. 487 00:17:26,671 --> 00:17:27,881 One, two, three, four 488 00:17:27,922 --> 00:17:29,883 five visits to Caverna? 489 00:17:29,924 --> 00:17:31,009 You know it? 490 00:17:31,051 --> 00:17:36,723 Yeah. It's a quiet little place over on 21st and Tenth. 491 00:17:36,765 --> 00:17:38,391 You say she was a customer? 492 00:17:38,433 --> 00:17:40,810 Yeah. Five or six times that we know of. 493 00:17:40,852 --> 00:17:42,771 Mm, perhaps you can come back tomorrow 494 00:17:42,812 --> 00:17:43,480 speak with the maitre d'? 495 00:17:43,521 --> 00:17:45,315 I'm usually in the back office. 496 00:17:45,357 --> 00:17:46,858 Why can't we speak to the maitre d' now? 497 00:17:46,900 --> 00:17:48,401 Called in sick 498 00:17:48,443 --> 00:17:51,279 and we are in the middle of our busiest seating. 499 00:17:51,321 --> 00:17:54,407 Well, we're in the middle of a busy homicide investigation. 500 00:17:54,449 --> 00:17:56,701 Let me get Roberto, our head waiter. 501 00:17:56,743 --> 00:17:57,994 Maybe he can help you. 502 00:18:00,580 --> 00:18:02,624 These gentlemen are with the police, Roberto. 503 00:18:02,624 --> 00:18:05,377 They'd like to see if you could help identify a photograph. 504 00:18:05,418 --> 00:18:06,711 Ah, absolutely. 505 00:18:06,753 --> 00:18:08,380 Ah, si. That's Signorina Hall. 506 00:18:08,421 --> 00:18:10,840 Yeah, used to come here with her gentleman friend 507 00:18:10,882 --> 00:18:12,842 but, uh, not so much anymore. 508 00:18:12,884 --> 00:18:16,513 You wouldn't happen to remember this gentleman friend's name? 509 00:18:16,554 --> 00:18:17,514 Ah, sure, sure. 510 00:18:17,555 --> 00:18:19,474 First rule of ristorante business, eh? 511 00:18:19,516 --> 00:18:20,517 Never forget a name. 512 00:18:21,684 --> 00:18:22,769 It's, um... A-Alfredo. 513 00:18:22,811 --> 00:18:24,854 No, Arturo. 514 00:18:24,896 --> 00:18:26,815 Uh... Alexandro. 515 00:18:26,856 --> 00:18:30,694 No. Alec. Si. Alec, uh, Conroy. 516 00:18:30,735 --> 00:18:33,071 Alec Conroy? 517 00:18:33,113 --> 00:18:35,699 He and the signorina always the deuce in the corner. 518 00:18:35,740 --> 00:18:39,536 Very private, uh, very romantic, huh? 519 00:18:39,577 --> 00:18:42,706 Very nice. 520 00:18:46,084 --> 00:18:46,918 Alec Conroy. 521 00:18:47,001 --> 00:18:49,546 The heir-apparent at the AG's office? 522 00:18:49,587 --> 00:18:51,047 How well do you really know him? 523 00:18:51,089 --> 00:18:52,882 He got organized crime convictions 524 00:18:52,924 --> 00:18:55,719 that everyone else thought were impossible 525 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,804 including myself. 526 00:18:57,846 --> 00:18:59,055 In addition to which 527 00:18:59,097 --> 00:19:01,683 I went to law school with his boss. 528 00:19:01,683 --> 00:19:02,851 Isabelle Shore. 529 00:19:02,892 --> 00:19:04,352 There's a straight arrow. 530 00:19:04,394 --> 00:19:05,854 As straight as they come. 531 00:19:05,895 --> 00:19:07,397 If she suspected anything 532 00:19:07,439 --> 00:19:09,733 she never would have given him the nod. 533 00:19:09,774 --> 00:19:11,276 According to Briscoe and Green 534 00:19:11,317 --> 00:19:13,528 Conroy kept his investigators pursuing leads 535 00:19:13,570 --> 00:19:15,321 he had to know would never pay off 536 00:19:15,363 --> 00:19:18,908 and he concealed his relationship with the Hall girl. 537 00:19:18,950 --> 00:19:20,869 A married ex-boyfriend? 538 00:19:20,910 --> 00:19:23,538 That would have been at the top of the troopers' hit list. 539 00:19:23,538 --> 00:19:24,706 Conroy told them 540 00:19:24,706 --> 00:19:26,374 the romance angle was a dead end. 541 00:19:26,416 --> 00:19:27,876 While he kept them in the dark 542 00:19:27,917 --> 00:19:29,586 about his affair with the victim. 543 00:19:29,627 --> 00:19:32,797 This man is next in line at the Criminal Division. 544 00:19:32,839 --> 00:19:35,550 I'm not going to drag him out in handcuffs 545 00:19:35,592 --> 00:19:37,594 because he concealed an affair. 546 00:19:37,635 --> 00:19:38,762 He did more than conceal it, Nora. 547 00:19:38,803 --> 00:19:41,890 He told Karen Hall's sister there was no office romance 548 00:19:41,931 --> 00:19:43,558 and then he turned the investigation 549 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:44,809 to a less than credible witness 550 00:19:44,893 --> 00:19:46,895 who put her in Albany. 551 00:19:46,936 --> 00:19:50,899 Taken as a whole, his conduct does evince a guilty mind. 552 00:19:52,942 --> 00:19:54,569 What do you want to do? 553 00:19:54,611 --> 00:19:56,780 Look him in the eye and ask him the question. 554 00:19:59,741 --> 00:20:02,911 I killed Karen Hall because I was having an affair with her 555 00:20:02,952 --> 00:20:04,913 then stonewalled the investigation? 556 00:20:06,081 --> 00:20:07,874 It's absurd. 557 00:20:07,916 --> 00:20:09,584 Is there another explanation? 558 00:20:09,626 --> 00:20:10,752 Yes. 559 00:20:10,794 --> 00:20:11,961 The investigation 560 00:20:12,003 --> 00:20:13,755 into Karen's disappearance went nowhere 561 00:20:13,755 --> 00:20:15,590 because there was nowhere for it to go. 562 00:20:15,632 --> 00:20:16,674 It's as simple as that. 563 00:20:16,716 --> 00:20:18,343 Especially not with a cover story 564 00:20:18,385 --> 00:20:19,552 about a witness in Albany. 565 00:20:19,594 --> 00:20:21,805 The newsstand vendor told the troopers she was there. 566 00:20:21,846 --> 00:20:23,014 I relied on that. 567 00:20:23,056 --> 00:20:24,766 They don't see it that way. 568 00:20:24,808 --> 00:20:25,767 Really? 569 00:20:25,767 --> 00:20:28,436 Well, their activity reports say they do. 570 00:20:28,478 --> 00:20:30,814 Activity reports yousupervised. 571 00:20:30,855 --> 00:20:32,649 I have the distinct feeling 572 00:20:32,691 --> 00:20:35,694 that somebody's about to read me my rights. 573 00:20:35,735 --> 00:20:38,488 Do you need your rights read, Mr. Conroy? 574 00:20:41,950 --> 00:20:43,702 Off the record? 575 00:20:45,495 --> 00:20:47,831 Okay, on the record then. 576 00:20:47,872 --> 00:20:50,709 Karen and I had been involved. 577 00:20:50,792 --> 00:20:51,960 Past tense. 578 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,044 I broke it off. 579 00:20:53,086 --> 00:20:55,422 End of story. 580 00:20:55,463 --> 00:20:57,007 I assume you can tell us where you were 581 00:20:57,048 --> 00:20:58,383 the night she disappeared? 582 00:20:58,425 --> 00:20:59,843 We already know it wasn't in Albany. 583 00:20:59,884 --> 00:21:02,887 I wouldn't have taken it on faith, either. 584 00:21:02,971 --> 00:21:04,681 I was with someone else. 585 00:21:04,723 --> 00:21:06,808 Not your wife. 586 00:21:06,850 --> 00:21:10,019 My wife and I weren't together at the time. 587 00:21:10,061 --> 00:21:11,855 I had my own place. 588 00:21:11,896 --> 00:21:13,982 Now, if that offends your long-horn 589 00:21:14,024 --> 00:21:16,526 self-righteous sense of right and wrong 590 00:21:16,568 --> 00:21:18,528 then so be it. 591 00:21:18,570 --> 00:21:20,697 What offends us is withholding information 592 00:21:20,739 --> 00:21:22,365 from an investigation. 593 00:21:22,407 --> 00:21:24,409 If I go public with my relationship with Karen 594 00:21:24,451 --> 00:21:26,036 I jeopardize cases, maybe even my career. 595 00:21:26,077 --> 00:21:27,537 I wasn't about to do that... 596 00:21:27,579 --> 00:21:30,165 not when I had an alibi. 597 00:21:32,542 --> 00:21:34,836 Alec come over about 5:00, 5:30. 598 00:21:34,836 --> 00:21:35,920 I made dinner. 599 00:21:35,962 --> 00:21:42,385 Um, we took a walk, read a bit, and then turned in. 600 00:21:42,427 --> 00:21:44,012 And when did he leave? 601 00:21:44,054 --> 00:21:46,473 Around 10:00 the next morning. 602 00:21:46,514 --> 00:21:48,683 Can anyone else verify that? 603 00:21:48,725 --> 00:21:52,896 I don't see why I should be answering these questions. 604 00:21:52,937 --> 00:21:54,647 Well, because you've been noticed 605 00:21:54,689 --> 00:21:55,774 as an alibi witness. 606 00:21:55,815 --> 00:21:58,985 That gives me the right to verify Mr. Conroy's story. 607 00:21:59,027 --> 00:22:03,031 Alec never loved that girl. 608 00:22:03,073 --> 00:22:04,199 So you know about the affair? 609 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:05,200 I'm not a fool 610 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,701 Miss Carmichael. 611 00:22:06,743 --> 00:22:10,080 I know there are things that Alec wants 612 00:22:10,121 --> 00:22:12,082 that I can't give him. 613 00:22:12,123 --> 00:22:14,876 I've been with him 12 years. 614 00:22:14,918 --> 00:22:17,879 He always comes back in the end. 615 00:22:17,879 --> 00:22:21,966 I understand he reconciled with his wife. 616 00:22:25,929 --> 00:22:28,598 Alec was right about you. 617 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,226 Houston, isn't it? 618 00:22:31,267 --> 00:22:33,103 Dallas. 619 00:22:33,144 --> 00:22:35,021 So he's talked to you? 620 00:22:35,063 --> 00:22:38,942 If you think Alec was in love with this girl 621 00:22:38,983 --> 00:22:42,946 that he killed her because of it, you're wrong. 622 00:22:42,988 --> 00:22:46,491 Because he was with you, right? 623 00:22:48,159 --> 00:22:51,705 Have you ever seen Alec in court, Miss Carmichael? 624 00:22:51,746 --> 00:22:53,999 No, I haven't had the pleasure. 625 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,792 Well, you should 626 00:22:55,834 --> 00:22:57,794 because then you would know. 627 00:22:57,836 --> 00:23:00,672 Alec Conroy doesn't fear anything. 628 00:23:00,714 --> 00:23:04,050 She's lying, Jack, I know it 629 00:23:04,092 --> 00:23:07,178 and the way she idolizes Conroy, it's just creepy 630 00:23:07,220 --> 00:23:10,015 like he's got some kind of hold over her. 631 00:23:10,056 --> 00:23:12,600 If what the police are saying is true 632 00:23:12,642 --> 00:23:14,811 Conroy's been able to manipulate 633 00:23:14,853 --> 00:23:16,980 an entire murder investigation. 634 00:23:17,022 --> 00:23:18,982 Why not an alibi witness? 635 00:23:19,024 --> 00:23:21,109 Anything turn up with Marner's doorman? 636 00:23:21,151 --> 00:23:23,653 They can't confirm Conroy was there that night 637 00:23:23,695 --> 00:23:25,488 but they can't dispute it, either. 638 00:23:25,530 --> 00:23:27,615 Still leaves us without probable cause 639 00:23:27,657 --> 00:23:29,159 for a search warrant. 640 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,785 Well, we might be getting close. 641 00:23:30,827 --> 00:23:33,163 The cops went over to Conroy's apartment building. 642 00:23:33,204 --> 00:23:34,956 Anything? 643 00:23:34,956 --> 00:23:37,000 There was no sighting of him that night 644 00:23:37,042 --> 00:23:38,626 but the concierge let it slip 645 00:23:38,668 --> 00:23:40,795 that a few days after Karen Hall's murder 646 00:23:40,837 --> 00:23:43,048 Mrs. Conroy set down specific instructions 647 00:23:43,131 --> 00:23:45,133 not to let Conroy up to the apartment 648 00:23:45,133 --> 00:23:47,594 under any circumstances. 649 00:23:47,635 --> 00:23:50,680 One month after he supposedly broke off the affair 650 00:23:50,722 --> 00:23:54,059 his wife suddenly bars him from their apartment. Why? 651 00:23:54,100 --> 00:23:55,185 She was afraid of something. 652 00:23:55,226 --> 00:23:56,728 Or someone. 653 00:23:56,811 --> 00:23:58,855 Yeah, but even if it's true, they've reconciled. 654 00:23:58,897 --> 00:24:00,315 I doubt she'll tell us anything now. 655 00:24:00,357 --> 00:24:04,819 Maybe there's someone else she'll talk to. 656 00:24:07,197 --> 00:24:08,698 Alec is a suspect 657 00:24:08,740 --> 00:24:10,742 in this girl's murder. 658 00:24:10,784 --> 00:24:12,327 It's not possible. 659 00:24:12,369 --> 00:24:14,162 He wouldn't. 660 00:24:14,204 --> 00:24:15,830 You must have had some suspicion. 661 00:24:15,872 --> 00:24:17,791 Why else leave specific instructions 662 00:24:17,832 --> 00:24:19,209 your husband not be allowed 663 00:24:19,250 --> 00:24:20,585 into your home? 664 00:24:20,627 --> 00:24:22,337 Alec still had his own apartment. 665 00:24:22,379 --> 00:24:24,172 You left the same instructions 666 00:24:24,214 --> 00:24:26,007 at your children's school. 667 00:24:27,675 --> 00:24:29,177 Where are the kids? 668 00:24:29,177 --> 00:24:32,180 With my parents. 669 00:24:32,222 --> 00:24:34,099 Why? 670 00:24:34,140 --> 00:24:37,143 Are you afraid of your husband, Mrs. Conroy? 671 00:24:37,185 --> 00:24:40,063 I don't see how my relationship with my husband 672 00:24:40,105 --> 00:24:41,690 is any of your business. 673 00:24:41,690 --> 00:24:43,149 Either of yours. 674 00:24:43,191 --> 00:24:46,027 This is very hard for me, too. 675 00:24:46,069 --> 00:24:48,989 Alec and I worked side by side 676 00:24:49,030 --> 00:24:50,198 every day. 677 00:24:50,198 --> 00:24:52,033 I respected him 678 00:24:52,075 --> 00:24:53,076 and I trusted him. 679 00:24:53,118 --> 00:24:53,952 But this is no good. 680 00:24:54,035 --> 00:24:56,830 We're not going to be able to protect him. 681 00:24:56,871 --> 00:24:58,665 He's getting help, Isabelle. 682 00:24:58,707 --> 00:25:00,625 He really is trying this time. 683 00:25:00,667 --> 00:25:01,918 If he killed her 684 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,753 nothing will ever be right again 685 00:25:03,795 --> 00:25:05,213 until he takes responsibility 686 00:25:05,255 --> 00:25:06,715 for it. 687 00:25:06,756 --> 00:25:08,133 How long 688 00:25:08,174 --> 00:25:10,635 can you keep your children away, Mrs. Conroy? 689 00:25:18,184 --> 00:25:22,272 We talked about divorcing a few times... 690 00:25:22,314 --> 00:25:26,317 but this last time, I'd really decided. 691 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,071 When I told him, Alec just snapped. 692 00:25:30,113 --> 00:25:35,410 He started accusing this girl of destroying our family. 693 00:25:35,452 --> 00:25:37,912 The more I tried to explain 694 00:25:37,954 --> 00:25:39,748 the angrier he became. 695 00:25:39,748 --> 00:25:42,876 I got so scared. 696 00:25:42,917 --> 00:25:47,255 I thought if I went with Alec to his therapist 697 00:25:47,297 --> 00:25:49,132 it might be easier. 698 00:25:49,174 --> 00:25:51,801 That's when I found out. 699 00:25:51,843 --> 00:25:55,180 Found out what, Mrs. Conroy? 700 00:25:57,932 --> 00:26:00,810 He'd already decided who was to blame. 701 00:26:03,021 --> 00:26:04,939 Obviously, I can't go into anything 702 00:26:04,981 --> 00:26:06,441 concerning what Alec told me. 703 00:26:06,441 --> 00:26:09,110 Mrs. Conroy indicated that the three of you 704 00:26:09,152 --> 00:26:11,821 discussed her husband's affair with Karen Hall 705 00:26:11,863 --> 00:26:13,281 in a therapy session with you 706 00:26:13,281 --> 00:26:15,992 and that, in fact, it was you who recommended 707 00:26:16,034 --> 00:26:17,827 that they immediately separate. 708 00:26:17,869 --> 00:26:19,454 Deanne Conroy wasn't my patient. 709 00:26:19,496 --> 00:26:22,791 You can at least verify the accuracy of her statement. 710 00:26:22,832 --> 00:26:25,251 I suppose if she's already told you as much 711 00:26:25,293 --> 00:26:26,961 I don't see the harm in that. 712 00:26:27,003 --> 00:26:30,131 She also revealed the substance of that therapy session 713 00:26:30,173 --> 00:26:32,467 and that she left it with serious concerns 714 00:26:32,509 --> 00:26:35,011 about the safety of Karen Hall. 715 00:26:35,053 --> 00:26:38,973 Now, we're treading on thinner ice here, Counselors. 716 00:26:38,973 --> 00:26:42,852 That information arises directly out of my diagnosis 717 00:26:42,894 --> 00:26:43,978 of Mr. Conroy. 718 00:26:44,020 --> 00:26:45,855 And when another woman turns up missing 719 00:26:45,897 --> 00:26:46,981 what then, Doctor? 720 00:26:47,023 --> 00:26:49,109 My obligation is to my patient. 721 00:26:49,150 --> 00:26:50,360 I warned Ms. Hall. 722 00:26:50,402 --> 00:26:52,195 You warned her? 723 00:26:52,237 --> 00:26:54,072 I put it all in the letter. 724 00:26:54,155 --> 00:26:55,990 There's nothing more I could do. 725 00:26:56,032 --> 00:26:57,325 What letter, Doctor? 726 00:26:59,244 --> 00:27:00,412 A Tarasoff letter. 727 00:27:00,495 --> 00:27:02,956 You're familiar with it? 728 00:27:02,998 --> 00:27:04,958 Regents v. Tarasoff. 729 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,210 A California case permitting a psychiatrist 730 00:27:07,252 --> 00:27:09,921 to send a warning letter if he believes his patient 731 00:27:10,005 --> 00:27:11,965 constitutes a threat to a third party. 732 00:27:12,007 --> 00:27:14,759 You say you got this copy from Conroy's shrink? 733 00:27:14,801 --> 00:27:16,761 The original hasn't turned up yet. 734 00:27:16,803 --> 00:27:18,722 Conroy probably took care of that 735 00:27:18,763 --> 00:27:20,348 in the initial investigation. 736 00:27:20,390 --> 00:27:23,184 "It is my belief that Mr. Conroy constitutes 737 00:27:23,226 --> 00:27:25,228 an immediate, real danger to you..." 738 00:27:25,270 --> 00:27:26,396 That'd be Karen Hall. 739 00:27:26,438 --> 00:27:27,605 "...and possibly others." 740 00:27:27,689 --> 00:27:31,401 Conroy's psychiatrist sent a similar letter to Alice Marner. 741 00:27:31,443 --> 00:27:33,236 And you say his wife was in some of these sessions? 742 00:27:33,278 --> 00:27:34,571 She used the therapist's office 743 00:27:34,612 --> 00:27:37,032 as a safe haven to break it off with him. 744 00:27:37,073 --> 00:27:38,366 And this other woman-- 745 00:27:38,408 --> 00:27:39,743 Conroy's supposed alibi? 746 00:27:39,784 --> 00:27:41,161 What's her safe haven? 747 00:27:41,202 --> 00:27:42,245 We have her 748 00:27:42,287 --> 00:27:43,788 under 24-hour surveillance. 749 00:27:43,830 --> 00:27:46,916 Which is how we discovered that Marner's late husband 750 00:27:46,958 --> 00:27:49,419 kept a 26-foot Grady White in the boat basin 751 00:27:49,461 --> 00:27:50,420 and she held onto it. 752 00:27:50,462 --> 00:27:52,922 Well, that's a nice item to have 753 00:27:52,964 --> 00:27:56,009 I mean, if you need to... dispose of a body. 754 00:27:56,051 --> 00:27:58,887 We know you received a letter just like this one. 755 00:27:58,887 --> 00:28:00,305 Alec would never harm me. 756 00:28:00,346 --> 00:28:02,390 Karen Hall made the same assumption. 757 00:28:02,432 --> 00:28:04,392 Ask yourself this 758 00:28:04,434 --> 00:28:05,894 Miss Marner: 759 00:28:05,894 --> 00:28:07,103 when this trial is over 760 00:28:07,145 --> 00:28:08,271 and Alec Conroy 761 00:28:08,313 --> 00:28:09,397 doesn't need you anymore 762 00:28:09,397 --> 00:28:12,317 are you going to go out on your boat with him again? 763 00:28:15,487 --> 00:28:17,072 We know all about it. 764 00:28:17,072 --> 00:28:18,031 Security from the marina 765 00:28:18,073 --> 00:28:21,409 told us someone took your boat out that night. 766 00:28:24,913 --> 00:28:27,415 It's one thing to provide an alibi 767 00:28:27,457 --> 00:28:29,042 when you have doubts. 768 00:28:29,084 --> 00:28:30,460 It's quite another 769 00:28:30,502 --> 00:28:31,294 when you know the truth. 770 00:28:31,336 --> 00:28:33,046 It's called "accessory after the fact" 771 00:28:33,088 --> 00:28:34,297 and it makes you just as guilty 772 00:28:34,339 --> 00:28:36,132 of the murder as Conroy. 773 00:28:36,174 --> 00:28:37,467 No man 774 00:28:37,509 --> 00:28:40,011 is worth 25 years in prison. 775 00:28:43,473 --> 00:28:45,433 Alec called that night. 776 00:28:45,475 --> 00:28:46,935 Where was he? 777 00:28:46,935 --> 00:28:47,936 At a pay phone. 778 00:28:47,936 --> 00:28:49,020 What did he say? 779 00:28:49,062 --> 00:28:51,481 He said he needed my help. 780 00:28:51,523 --> 00:28:53,066 He needed me. 781 00:28:53,108 --> 00:28:55,819 I asked him what was wrong. 782 00:28:55,860 --> 00:28:58,071 Do I have to do this? 783 00:28:58,113 --> 00:28:59,906 What did Conroy want from you? 784 00:28:59,948 --> 00:29:01,449 He just said 785 00:29:01,491 --> 00:29:03,284 he needed to use the boat 786 00:29:03,326 --> 00:29:04,869 to meet him at the marina. 787 00:29:04,911 --> 00:29:06,454 Were you on board? 788 00:29:06,454 --> 00:29:08,248 He took the key. 789 00:29:08,289 --> 00:29:10,291 Did he have anything with him? 790 00:29:14,295 --> 00:29:17,340 A duffel bag. 791 00:29:17,382 --> 00:29:19,467 A big one. 792 00:29:22,137 --> 00:29:24,180 Who's going to pay for all this? 793 00:29:24,222 --> 00:29:24,973 Hey, we got a warrant. 794 00:29:25,015 --> 00:29:26,474 Take it up with the building manager. 795 00:29:26,516 --> 00:29:27,517 Anything? 796 00:29:27,559 --> 00:29:29,060 Floors have been refinished. 797 00:29:29,144 --> 00:29:30,145 Place has been painted. 798 00:29:30,186 --> 00:29:31,521 At $2,800 for a one bedroom 799 00:29:31,563 --> 00:29:33,356 they damn well better have painted it. 800 00:29:33,398 --> 00:29:34,649 Lennie? 801 00:29:36,401 --> 00:29:38,194 There's something in the grouting. 802 00:29:38,236 --> 00:29:39,237 Could be blood. 803 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,531 It'll take a second for the Luminol to kick in. 804 00:29:41,573 --> 00:29:43,450 Hit the light, would you, Detective? 805 00:29:46,244 --> 00:29:47,537 That's blood. 806 00:29:47,579 --> 00:29:51,249 Huh. He should have re-tiled the place, too. 807 00:29:51,291 --> 00:29:52,334 Oh, that's it. 808 00:29:52,375 --> 00:29:53,585 They're paying for a hotel. 809 00:29:53,626 --> 00:29:55,336 All right, that's good. 810 00:29:55,378 --> 00:29:56,880 I like that, but if you were to take... 811 00:29:56,921 --> 00:29:57,881 Game's over, boys and girls. 812 00:29:57,922 --> 00:29:59,674 Excuse me, what the hell's going on here? 813 00:29:59,716 --> 00:30:01,176 Alec Conroy, you're under arrest 814 00:30:01,217 --> 00:30:02,385 for the murder of Karen Hall. 815 00:30:02,427 --> 00:30:03,470 Call my wife, please. 816 00:30:03,511 --> 00:30:05,221 You have the right to remain silent. 817 00:30:05,263 --> 00:30:06,389 Excuse me. 818 00:30:06,431 --> 00:30:07,974 I know my rights, thank you. 819 00:30:08,016 --> 00:30:09,059 Oh, that's right. 820 00:30:09,100 --> 00:30:10,560 You used to have one of these. 821 00:30:16,983 --> 00:30:18,610 Docket 44937-- People v. Conroy. 822 00:30:18,652 --> 00:30:20,487 Charge is murder, second degree. 823 00:30:20,528 --> 00:30:21,488 How does 824 00:30:21,529 --> 00:30:22,238 the defendant plead? 825 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:23,907 Not guilty on behalf of Mr. Conroy. 826 00:30:23,948 --> 00:30:25,367 People on bail? 827 00:30:25,408 --> 00:30:27,452 The defendant is an assistant Attorney General 828 00:30:27,494 --> 00:30:28,411 in the Criminal Division. 829 00:30:28,453 --> 00:30:30,538 The victim was his former lover and employee. 830 00:30:30,580 --> 00:30:32,874 Now, Your Honor, the People are in possession of a letter 831 00:30:32,916 --> 00:30:35,502 dated shortly before the victim's disappearance 832 00:30:35,543 --> 00:30:37,379 which indicates the defendant posed 833 00:30:37,420 --> 00:30:38,546 an immediate physical threat to her. 834 00:30:38,588 --> 00:30:39,964 The letter is totally inadmissible. 835 00:30:40,048 --> 00:30:42,175 His own psychiatrist will attest to it, Your Honor. 836 00:30:42,217 --> 00:30:43,218 Not in any court in this land. 837 00:30:43,259 --> 00:30:45,345 Motion to suppress the so-called Tarasoff letter 838 00:30:45,387 --> 00:30:46,638 and anything that comes with it. 839 00:30:46,721 --> 00:30:47,514 Bail set at $1 million. 840 00:30:47,555 --> 00:30:49,516 Motion's referred to the Trial Part. 841 00:30:49,557 --> 00:30:51,351 Spin the wheel, Louie. 842 00:30:51,393 --> 00:30:52,894 Damning stuff, Counselor. 843 00:30:52,936 --> 00:30:54,479 I can understand why 844 00:30:54,521 --> 00:30:56,523 you wouldn't want a jury to get wind of this. 845 00:30:56,564 --> 00:30:58,608 Every word in that letter is hearsay, Your Honor 846 00:30:58,650 --> 00:31:00,443 and is being offered to prove the very matter 847 00:31:00,485 --> 00:31:01,695 asserted. 848 00:31:01,736 --> 00:31:03,446 The doctor can confirm its contents. 849 00:31:03,488 --> 00:31:04,614 Not unless my client is willing 850 00:31:04,656 --> 00:31:06,491 to waive the doctor-patient privilege 851 00:31:06,574 --> 00:31:08,243 which I can assure you he's not. 852 00:31:08,284 --> 00:31:09,536 What about it, Mr. McCoy? 853 00:31:09,577 --> 00:31:10,537 Therapeutic privilege 854 00:31:10,578 --> 00:31:13,415 was shattered by the presence of a third party. 855 00:31:13,456 --> 00:31:15,583 Well, your office tried that same argument 856 00:31:15,625 --> 00:31:16,918 in People v. Bierenbaum. 857 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,212 It didn't work then, doesn't work now. 858 00:31:19,254 --> 00:31:21,673 Your Honor, in Bierenbaum, all we had were witnesses 859 00:31:21,715 --> 00:31:22,674 who were willing to testify 860 00:31:22,716 --> 00:31:25,510 that the defendant told them he was in therapy. 861 00:31:25,552 --> 00:31:28,263 Here we have someone who was actually in the session. 862 00:31:28,304 --> 00:31:31,016 It was his wife, Your Honor. 863 00:31:31,057 --> 00:31:32,684 Wife? 864 00:31:32,767 --> 00:31:35,687 So, if the psychological privilege doesn't apply... 865 00:31:35,729 --> 00:31:37,689 Then the spousal prohibition does. 866 00:31:37,731 --> 00:31:40,775 Spousal privilege precludes Mrs. Conroy's testifying 867 00:31:40,817 --> 00:31:42,610 not Conroy's psychiatrist. 868 00:31:42,652 --> 00:31:43,737 Call it what you like. 869 00:31:43,778 --> 00:31:45,947 I'm not letting the man's shrink violate the privilege 870 00:31:45,989 --> 00:31:47,824 because the man's wife was in the same room. 871 00:31:47,866 --> 00:31:49,367 And without the doctor's testimony 872 00:31:49,451 --> 00:31:50,368 the letter is hearsay. 873 00:31:50,452 --> 00:31:51,703 Relax, Stan. 874 00:31:51,786 --> 00:31:53,747 The letter's out, too. 875 00:31:55,457 --> 00:31:56,958 Dr. Breitel, the letter 876 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,501 and his testimony are gone. 877 00:31:58,543 --> 00:32:00,587 What about the blood in the apartment? 878 00:32:00,628 --> 00:32:02,756 Too contaminated for any real analysis. 879 00:32:02,797 --> 00:32:03,590 The murder weapon. 880 00:32:03,631 --> 00:32:06,051 Conroy doesn't own a registered handgun. 881 00:32:06,092 --> 00:32:07,802 He could have gotten it anywhere. 882 00:32:07,844 --> 00:32:09,679 He probably dropped it in the water 883 00:32:09,721 --> 00:32:11,514 along with Karen Hall's body. 884 00:32:11,556 --> 00:32:12,891 What does that leave us with? 885 00:32:12,974 --> 00:32:14,351 Alice Marner's testimony 886 00:32:14,392 --> 00:32:16,603 that Conroy took her boat out that night 887 00:32:16,644 --> 00:32:17,520 with a duffel bag. 888 00:32:17,562 --> 00:32:20,315 We also have his attempt at a false alibi. 889 00:32:20,315 --> 00:32:22,651 It's a roll of the dice. 890 00:32:22,692 --> 00:32:24,486 No. 891 00:32:24,527 --> 00:32:27,489 I don't want to gamble with a jilted mistress, Jack. 892 00:32:32,994 --> 00:32:34,412 A plea. 893 00:32:34,454 --> 00:32:35,497 You can't be serious. 894 00:32:35,497 --> 00:32:36,873 Alec, let's hear them out at least. 895 00:32:36,915 --> 00:32:38,750 Hear what out? Without Dr. Breitel 896 00:32:38,792 --> 00:32:40,669 all you've got is circumstantial evidence. 897 00:32:40,710 --> 00:32:42,796 We all know how juries hate to convict on that. 898 00:32:42,837 --> 00:32:44,506 And yet, sometimes they do. 899 00:32:44,547 --> 00:32:45,673 Trust me-- 900 00:32:45,673 --> 00:32:46,549 this one won't. 901 00:32:46,591 --> 00:32:47,842 They might, after they learn 902 00:32:47,884 --> 00:32:48,927 about all the blood 903 00:32:48,968 --> 00:32:49,886 in that bathroom. 904 00:32:49,928 --> 00:32:52,389 From what I understand from your forensic report 905 00:32:52,430 --> 00:32:53,765 the blood couldn't be typed. 906 00:32:53,848 --> 00:32:55,392 It was too contaminated. 907 00:32:55,433 --> 00:32:58,103 I remember reading somewhere that bleach can do that. 908 00:32:58,144 --> 00:33:00,605 Aren't you forgetting about a large duffel bag 909 00:33:00,689 --> 00:33:01,731 you were carrying that evening? 910 00:33:01,773 --> 00:33:04,567 Oh, the one that Alice never actually looked into? 911 00:33:04,609 --> 00:33:05,652 It's in my closet. 912 00:33:05,694 --> 00:33:07,028 I can bring it in if you'd like. 913 00:33:07,070 --> 00:33:09,531 Of course, it could be one that just looks like it. 914 00:33:09,572 --> 00:33:11,908 In any event, I doubt Alice would be able to tell the difference 915 00:33:11,950 --> 00:33:12,951 either way. 916 00:33:13,034 --> 00:33:14,077 We also have a witness 917 00:33:14,119 --> 00:33:15,537 in the marina. 918 00:33:15,578 --> 00:33:16,579 A witness to what? 919 00:33:16,621 --> 00:33:17,831 A late-night cruise? 920 00:33:17,872 --> 00:33:20,917 Do you know how many times I've taken that boat out? Hmm? 921 00:33:20,959 --> 00:33:22,711 Even when Alice's husband was alive. 922 00:33:22,711 --> 00:33:26,006 You don't seriously expect to walk on this? 923 00:33:28,591 --> 00:33:30,593 I understand you've never seen me in court. 924 00:33:30,635 --> 00:33:31,720 Consider this 925 00:33:31,761 --> 00:33:32,637 a preview. 926 00:33:32,679 --> 00:33:33,763 Stan. 927 00:33:45,525 --> 00:33:47,819 Miss Hall was last seen by Miss Cofresta 928 00:33:47,861 --> 00:33:49,738 at approximately 4:00 p.m. 929 00:33:49,738 --> 00:33:53,033 She had indicated that she was going to be staying in the city. 930 00:33:53,074 --> 00:33:53,992 What about the witness 931 00:33:54,034 --> 00:33:57,037 who originally placed Miss Hall in Albany? 932 00:33:57,078 --> 00:33:59,789 He's since retracted that identification. 933 00:33:59,831 --> 00:34:01,166 Thank you. 934 00:34:01,207 --> 00:34:02,792 Nothing further. 935 00:34:04,919 --> 00:34:06,796 To your knowledge 936 00:34:06,838 --> 00:34:08,715 was Mr. Conroy seen with the deceased 937 00:34:08,757 --> 00:34:09,924 the night of her disappearance? 938 00:34:09,966 --> 00:34:12,052 Uh, no. 939 00:34:12,093 --> 00:34:13,720 And Mr. Conroy has admitted 940 00:34:13,762 --> 00:34:14,471 that he and Miss Hall 941 00:34:14,512 --> 00:34:16,056 were having an affair, has he not? 942 00:34:16,097 --> 00:34:17,474 I believe he has, yes. 943 00:34:17,515 --> 00:34:19,559 Well, do you know of any fact-- 944 00:34:19,601 --> 00:34:20,852 fact, Detective-- 945 00:34:20,935 --> 00:34:21,811 that would contradict 946 00:34:21,853 --> 00:34:23,480 his assertion that the affair had ended? 947 00:34:23,521 --> 00:34:25,774 No. 948 00:34:25,815 --> 00:34:28,860 In fact, the only evidence on the issue is that Mr. Conroy 949 00:34:28,902 --> 00:34:31,946 returned to his wife following a legal separation? 950 00:34:31,988 --> 00:34:33,740 Actually, I think he made a few stops 951 00:34:33,782 --> 00:34:35,116 before he went back to his wife. 952 00:34:35,158 --> 00:34:37,494 Ha, ha. 953 00:34:37,535 --> 00:34:38,453 Nothing further. 954 00:34:40,789 --> 00:34:42,749 I've known Alec for 12 years. 955 00:34:42,791 --> 00:34:44,209 You described your relationship 956 00:34:44,292 --> 00:34:46,044 with the defendant as passionate. 957 00:34:46,127 --> 00:34:48,922 Passionate... 958 00:34:48,963 --> 00:34:49,964 supportive. 959 00:34:49,964 --> 00:34:52,050 Supportive? How? 960 00:34:52,092 --> 00:34:53,718 Alec was not a man who found it easy 961 00:34:53,802 --> 00:34:57,972 to... let his guard down with others. 962 00:34:58,014 --> 00:34:59,599 With me, it was different. 963 00:34:59,641 --> 00:35:02,811 He trusted me, he confided in me. 964 00:35:02,811 --> 00:35:04,979 And that night, he confided in you? 965 00:35:05,021 --> 00:35:07,816 Alec asked for my help. 966 00:35:07,857 --> 00:35:09,651 He needed to use the boat. 967 00:35:09,693 --> 00:35:11,027 Those were his words? 968 00:35:11,069 --> 00:35:11,987 "Use the boat"? 969 00:35:12,028 --> 00:35:13,029 Yes. 970 00:35:13,071 --> 00:35:15,699 And I let him. 971 00:35:15,740 --> 00:35:18,702 I let him throw that girl's body into the river. 972 00:35:18,743 --> 00:35:19,953 Objection. 973 00:35:19,994 --> 00:35:20,996 Sustained. 974 00:35:21,037 --> 00:35:22,706 Thank you. 975 00:35:22,747 --> 00:35:23,707 Nothing further. 976 00:35:26,876 --> 00:35:30,213 12 years is a, a long time to know a man, isn't it? 977 00:35:30,255 --> 00:35:32,841 And you are... 978 00:35:32,841 --> 00:35:34,592 fond of Alec Conroy, aren't you? 979 00:35:34,634 --> 00:35:39,222 I've been in love with Alec Conroy since the day we met 980 00:35:39,264 --> 00:35:40,890 and I still am. 981 00:35:40,932 --> 00:35:43,852 And you've testified that this man you've known and loved 982 00:35:43,852 --> 00:35:45,854 for nearly 12 years, who confided in you 983 00:35:45,895 --> 00:35:50,525 trusted you, called and asked if he could use your boat? 984 00:35:50,567 --> 00:35:52,527 Yes. 985 00:35:52,569 --> 00:35:54,612 In the dead of winter? 986 00:35:54,696 --> 00:35:56,823 And this man who so trusted you and relied on you 987 00:35:56,865 --> 00:35:58,742 gave no reason why? 988 00:35:58,783 --> 00:36:00,201 He just said he needed help. 989 00:36:00,201 --> 00:36:01,161 He offered no explanation 990 00:36:01,202 --> 00:36:03,204 and you didn't ask him why? 991 00:36:03,246 --> 00:36:04,664 No. 992 00:36:04,706 --> 00:36:07,125 You just met him at the boat? 993 00:36:07,167 --> 00:36:08,626 Yes. 994 00:36:08,710 --> 00:36:09,753 And you claim 995 00:36:09,794 --> 00:36:12,505 that when he showed up, he was carrying a duffel bag 996 00:36:12,547 --> 00:36:13,965 and still you didn't ask why? 997 00:36:14,049 --> 00:36:16,885 No. 998 00:36:23,349 --> 00:36:26,519 You didn't meet Alec Conroy at the boat that night, did you? 999 00:36:26,561 --> 00:36:27,604 I don't understand. 1000 00:36:27,646 --> 00:36:29,272 Oh, you went to the boat, all right 1001 00:36:29,314 --> 00:36:31,816 but you met him at his apartment, didn't you? 1002 00:36:31,858 --> 00:36:33,943 No, I did not. 1003 00:36:33,985 --> 00:36:36,529 You met him at the apartment that he had rented 1004 00:36:36,571 --> 00:36:37,822 for the two of you 1005 00:36:37,864 --> 00:36:39,199 only you weren't invited 1006 00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:40,784 and when you showed up 1007 00:36:40,825 --> 00:36:42,577 to see your lover of 12 years 1008 00:36:42,577 --> 00:36:43,912 in the arms of this young girl... 1009 00:36:43,953 --> 00:36:45,121 What are you trying to do? 1010 00:36:45,163 --> 00:36:47,916 Your late husband owned a .22 caliber handgun, did he not? 1011 00:36:47,916 --> 00:36:49,167 Alec? 1012 00:36:49,209 --> 00:36:50,835 You're the one who killed 1013 00:36:50,919 --> 00:36:52,170 that woman that night, aren't you? 1014 00:36:52,212 --> 00:36:53,171 No! 1015 00:36:53,254 --> 00:36:55,006 The wife posed no threat 1016 00:36:55,048 --> 00:36:56,675 but this one, she did 1017 00:36:56,716 --> 00:36:57,717 this young, sensuous woman. 1018 00:36:57,759 --> 00:36:58,802 Objection. 1019 00:36:58,843 --> 00:36:59,761 Overruled. 1020 00:36:59,803 --> 00:37:00,845 You killed her 1021 00:37:00,887 --> 00:37:03,056 and then you asked Alec Conroy, the man you love 1022 00:37:03,098 --> 00:37:04,974 the man you trust, to help you. 1023 00:37:05,016 --> 00:37:07,769 In fact, you counted on the 12 years of control 1024 00:37:07,811 --> 00:37:09,062 that you had had over him... 1025 00:37:09,104 --> 00:37:09,979 Control I had!? 1026 00:37:10,021 --> 00:37:11,231 Yeah, and it worked 1027 00:37:11,272 --> 00:37:12,315 because rather than turn you in 1028 00:37:12,357 --> 00:37:14,609 rather than fulfill his obligations as a prosecutor 1029 00:37:14,651 --> 00:37:17,570 he took pity on you, didn't he? 1030 00:37:17,612 --> 00:37:19,155 Helped you get rid 1031 00:37:19,197 --> 00:37:20,323 of Miss Hall's body. 1032 00:37:20,365 --> 00:37:22,701 That never happened... never. 1033 00:37:22,784 --> 00:37:24,119 Your boat, Mrs. Marner. 1034 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,956 Your boat, your gun, your jealousy. 1035 00:37:34,295 --> 00:37:35,880 Should've seen it coming. 1036 00:37:35,964 --> 00:37:36,923 How could we? 1037 00:37:36,965 --> 00:37:38,299 The gun was registered 1038 00:37:38,299 --> 00:37:40,635 to Marner's late husband in Florida 1039 00:37:40,677 --> 00:37:41,845 not New York. 1040 00:37:41,886 --> 00:37:44,014 You think the jury will see through that? 1041 00:37:44,055 --> 00:37:46,975 Gillum doesn't need to prove the Marner scenario. 1042 00:37:47,016 --> 00:37:50,603 He just has to get one juror to buy himself reasonable doubt. 1043 00:37:50,645 --> 00:37:51,646 Which he can do 1044 00:37:51,688 --> 00:37:53,690 because they will never see the Tarasoff letter. 1045 00:37:53,732 --> 00:37:56,693 To a lawyer like Gillum, that letter isn't a fact. 1046 00:37:56,735 --> 00:37:58,862 It's just an annoying detail. 1047 00:37:58,903 --> 00:38:01,031 This guy leaves his wife, he takes two lovers 1048 00:38:01,072 --> 00:38:02,991 and he still has the sanctity 1049 00:38:03,033 --> 00:38:04,826 of marital privilege to protect him. 1050 00:38:10,165 --> 00:38:12,417 Except he didn't just leave his wife. 1051 00:38:12,500 --> 00:38:15,045 When Gillum crossed Green, he said... 1052 00:38:15,086 --> 00:38:17,756 ...they were legally separated. 1053 00:38:17,839 --> 00:38:21,176 Another one of those annoying details. 1054 00:38:23,678 --> 00:38:26,890 I was under the impression I'd already ruled on this. 1055 00:38:26,931 --> 00:38:29,434 The Tarasoff letter, the shrink's testimony. 1056 00:38:29,476 --> 00:38:30,977 It's a nonstarter, Jack. 1057 00:38:31,019 --> 00:38:31,811 We're agreed that 1058 00:38:31,853 --> 00:38:33,730 if Mr. Conroy had uttered his threats 1059 00:38:33,772 --> 00:38:35,315 to his psychiatrist and a third party 1060 00:38:35,357 --> 00:38:36,941 the privilege would've been shattered... 1061 00:38:36,983 --> 00:38:38,234 We've been down this path. 1062 00:38:38,276 --> 00:38:42,030 The so-called third party was his wife. 1063 00:38:42,072 --> 00:38:44,032 Only they were legally separated at the time 1064 00:38:44,074 --> 00:38:45,116 not just living apart. 1065 00:38:45,158 --> 00:38:48,078 Page 36 of your cross-examination 1066 00:38:48,119 --> 00:38:49,079 of Detective Green, Stan. 1067 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,997 A legal separation. 1068 00:38:51,039 --> 00:38:52,999 They filed an agreement with the court. 1069 00:38:53,041 --> 00:38:54,876 A distinction without a difference. 1070 00:38:54,918 --> 00:38:55,668 Your Honor 1071 00:38:55,710 --> 00:38:56,628 once an agreement has been filed 1072 00:38:56,670 --> 00:38:58,922 one spouse can go out and have an affair 1073 00:38:58,963 --> 00:38:59,714 and legally, the other spouse 1074 00:38:59,756 --> 00:39:01,508 can't use it as grounds for divorce. 1075 00:39:01,549 --> 00:39:03,093 I'd say that's a pretty big difference. 1076 00:39:03,134 --> 00:39:06,137 So you're claiming now the marital privilege 1077 00:39:06,221 --> 00:39:07,055 doesn't apply because 1078 00:39:07,097 --> 00:39:09,015 the sanctity of marriage no longer existed. 1079 00:39:09,057 --> 00:39:12,936 In the eyes of the law, Deanne Conroy was a third party. 1080 00:39:12,977 --> 00:39:14,437 Ergo her presence in therapy 1081 00:39:14,479 --> 00:39:16,773 nullifies the therapeutic privilege. 1082 00:39:16,815 --> 00:39:18,108 Your Honor, it's... 1083 00:39:18,149 --> 00:39:20,026 Stan, look at it this way 1084 00:39:20,068 --> 00:39:21,903 if the jury convicts 1085 00:39:21,903 --> 00:39:24,406 you'll have a hell of an issue on appeal. 1086 00:39:24,406 --> 00:39:25,448 The letter's in. 1087 00:39:25,490 --> 00:39:26,741 The shrink's in. 1088 00:39:35,166 --> 00:39:37,085 Doctor, please read the highlighted portion 1089 00:39:37,085 --> 00:39:40,213 in the third full paragraph on page two. 1090 00:39:40,255 --> 00:39:42,132 "In the light of this, Ms. Hall 1091 00:39:42,173 --> 00:39:43,383 "I believe that Mr. Conroy 1092 00:39:43,425 --> 00:39:45,260 "should be considered 1093 00:39:45,260 --> 00:39:48,471 an immediate and very real physical threat." 1094 00:39:48,513 --> 00:39:52,308 What was the basis for your opinion? 1095 00:39:52,350 --> 00:39:56,146 Mr. Conroy suffers from CDR-- Control-Domination Response. 1096 00:39:56,187 --> 00:39:57,939 In lay terms? 1097 00:39:57,939 --> 00:39:58,940 He needs to feel 1098 00:39:58,982 --> 00:39:59,774 that everything in his life-- 1099 00:39:59,816 --> 00:40:01,776 especially the people in his life-- 1100 00:40:01,776 --> 00:40:05,280 are under his control, domination. 1101 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,197 Specifically? 1102 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,159 Just look at the women in his life: 1103 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:14,456 devoted wife, widowed mistress, aspiring employee. 1104 00:40:14,497 --> 00:40:17,876 All of them share a vulnerability to him 1105 00:40:17,959 --> 00:40:18,877 a dependence. 1106 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,795 When Mr. Conroy realized 1107 00:40:20,795 --> 00:40:23,340 he could no longer control Ms. Hall 1108 00:40:23,381 --> 00:40:27,052 you can see how her defiance could be perceived by him 1109 00:40:27,135 --> 00:40:29,137 as jeopardizing more than just their relationship. 1110 00:40:29,137 --> 00:40:33,141 Did he say he was going to kill Miss Hall? 1111 00:40:33,183 --> 00:40:35,477 He said he wanted to. 1112 00:40:37,479 --> 00:40:39,898 And I believed him. 1113 00:40:39,939 --> 00:40:42,317 Nothing further. 1114 00:40:45,820 --> 00:40:48,156 Man One on the table, McCoy? 1115 00:40:48,198 --> 00:40:49,866 You've got to be kidding. 1116 00:40:49,908 --> 00:40:51,034 So, what is? 1117 00:40:51,076 --> 00:40:52,327 Murder Two. 1118 00:40:52,369 --> 00:40:54,329 I can get that after trial. 1119 00:40:54,371 --> 00:40:56,122 Not with a promise of 20-to-life. 1120 00:40:56,164 --> 00:40:57,999 Oh, you're going to knock five years 1121 00:40:57,999 --> 00:40:59,125 off the bottom? 1122 00:40:59,167 --> 00:41:01,336 And we take no position on parole. 1123 00:41:01,336 --> 00:41:03,254 You might just see the light of day again. 1124 00:41:05,256 --> 00:41:06,424 "The light of day." 1125 00:41:06,466 --> 00:41:07,258 Do you know how many times 1126 00:41:07,300 --> 00:41:09,177 I sat on the other side of this table 1127 00:41:09,219 --> 00:41:11,429 and said those same words to a defendant? 1128 00:41:11,471 --> 00:41:13,181 Now or never, Mr. Conroy. 1129 00:41:13,181 --> 00:41:17,936 The ticking clock-- always an effective strategy. 1130 00:41:21,189 --> 00:41:22,607 You've got your plea, McCoy. 1131 00:41:22,691 --> 00:41:24,484 You'll have to allocute. 1132 00:41:24,526 --> 00:41:26,319 Oh, is that really necessary? 1133 00:41:26,361 --> 00:41:27,278 For months 1134 00:41:27,362 --> 00:41:28,279 Karen Hall's family's 1135 00:41:28,321 --> 00:41:30,407 been plagued by questions of how and why. 1136 00:41:30,448 --> 00:41:31,616 We're not leaving this room 1137 00:41:31,658 --> 00:41:33,159 until your client answers them. 1138 00:41:33,201 --> 00:41:34,160 You don't have to. 1139 00:41:34,202 --> 00:41:36,955 It's okay. 1140 00:41:36,996 --> 00:41:39,416 You know, this may come as a big surprise to all of you 1141 00:41:39,457 --> 00:41:40,875 but I loved Karen. 1142 00:41:40,917 --> 00:41:43,920 Killing someone's a pretty sick way 1143 00:41:43,962 --> 00:41:45,296 of saying "I love you." 1144 00:41:47,966 --> 00:41:50,093 When I first met Karen 1145 00:41:50,135 --> 00:41:53,138 she was just another local girl in cheap shoes. 1146 00:41:53,221 --> 00:41:54,389 She didn't know the first thing 1147 00:41:54,389 --> 00:41:56,016 about being a professional 1148 00:41:56,057 --> 00:41:57,976 about talking like one 1149 00:41:58,059 --> 00:42:02,105 like dressing like one or like thinking like one. 1150 00:42:02,147 --> 00:42:04,315 I was the one who taught her that. 1151 00:42:04,357 --> 00:42:05,734 And then you betrayed her. 1152 00:42:05,734 --> 00:42:07,318 No, that was her choice, not mine. 1153 00:42:07,402 --> 00:42:09,279 I was willing to give up 1154 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,489 my wife and my children for her. 1155 00:42:11,531 --> 00:42:14,451 She just couldn't appreciate the sacrifice. 1156 00:42:16,077 --> 00:42:17,579 So, then... ? 1157 00:42:17,620 --> 00:42:19,998 So, then I called her late that afternoon 1158 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,585 and told her I had some new information about the case. 1159 00:42:23,585 --> 00:42:27,589 She was reluctant about coming over to the apartment 1160 00:42:27,589 --> 00:42:29,924 but I told her it'd just be a few minutes 1161 00:42:29,966 --> 00:42:31,426 but I could tell in her voice 1162 00:42:31,426 --> 00:42:33,303 she didn't want to come. 1163 00:42:33,344 --> 00:42:34,679 But she did. 1164 00:42:34,721 --> 00:42:36,473 Loyalty to the job, Miss Carmichael. 1165 00:42:36,514 --> 00:42:40,018 I taught her that, too. 1166 00:42:40,101 --> 00:42:42,228 Where'd you get the gun? 1167 00:42:42,270 --> 00:42:44,314 Alice's, a few weeks before. 1168 00:42:44,356 --> 00:42:46,274 What happened after Ms. Hall got there? 1169 00:42:46,274 --> 00:42:47,442 At first, we talked about work. 1170 00:42:47,484 --> 00:42:49,069 I wanted her to think 1171 00:42:49,110 --> 00:42:51,154 everything was going to be okay 1172 00:42:51,196 --> 00:42:53,365 but then I brought up the relationship 1173 00:42:53,406 --> 00:42:58,078 and Karen said she was uncomfortable with the subject 1174 00:42:58,119 --> 00:42:59,120 that it was over. 1175 00:42:59,162 --> 00:43:02,123 She started putting on her coat 1176 00:43:02,165 --> 00:43:03,625 I told her to sit down... 1177 00:43:05,460 --> 00:43:08,254 She said I couldn't tell her what to do anymore. 1178 00:43:08,296 --> 00:43:10,465 So I reached for her 1179 00:43:10,507 --> 00:43:13,677 and she pulled away 1180 00:43:13,718 --> 00:43:15,261 and she said that the thought 1181 00:43:15,303 --> 00:43:18,681 of her being touched by me again made her sick. 1182 00:43:19,724 --> 00:43:22,727 That's when she saw the gun. 1183 00:43:22,811 --> 00:43:25,355 She gave me this look 1184 00:43:25,397 --> 00:43:28,149 like she knew she'd gone too far. 1185 00:43:28,191 --> 00:43:30,777 Why not just let her walk away? 1186 00:43:30,819 --> 00:43:31,778 I couldn't. 1187 00:43:31,820 --> 00:43:37,534 Karen should have known I could never do that. 1188 00:43:40,662 --> 00:43:44,332 Now she does. 1189 00:43:48,461 --> 00:43:50,672 Background checks, press coverage... 1190 00:43:50,714 --> 00:43:52,048 and with all that 1191 00:43:52,090 --> 00:43:53,383 Alec Conroy was a heartbeat away 1192 00:43:53,425 --> 00:43:54,634 from one of the most powerful jobs 1193 00:43:54,676 --> 00:43:57,470 in the criminal justice system. 1194 00:43:57,512 --> 00:43:59,556 What a frightening thought. 85078

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