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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,250 --> 00:00:01,167 by two separate yet equally important groups, 2 00:00:05,630 --> 00:00:07,549 the police who investigate crime 3 00:00:07,590 --> 00:00:10,468 and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. 4 00:00:10,510 --> 00:00:12,429 These are their stories. 5 00:00:16,057 --> 00:00:17,142 Hey, so who do you like in the third? 6 00:00:17,183 --> 00:00:18,101 Alby's Gal. 7 00:00:18,143 --> 00:00:19,018 You gotta be kidding. Her last start... 8 00:00:19,060 --> 00:00:21,479 She was over-matched. But I still lost. 9 00:00:21,521 --> 00:00:22,939 Who told you to bet? 10 00:00:22,981 --> 00:00:24,065 You did. 11 00:00:24,107 --> 00:00:26,526 Hey, I just told you who I liked. 12 00:00:28,611 --> 00:00:31,114 Sam, Alby's Gal in the third. 13 00:00:31,156 --> 00:00:32,741 When's the last time you picked a winner? 14 00:00:32,782 --> 00:00:33,825 Maryland Princess. 15 00:00:33,867 --> 00:00:34,951 Get out of here. 16 00:00:50,759 --> 00:00:53,470 Are you all right? Are you okay? 17 00:00:57,807 --> 00:01:00,018 Oh, my God, what happened? 18 00:01:08,526 --> 00:01:10,820 It was their scheduled run. They come twice a day. 19 00:01:10,862 --> 00:01:12,489 You notice anyone casing the place? 20 00:01:12,530 --> 00:01:14,699 No. I was just walking with them, talking. 21 00:01:14,741 --> 00:01:16,618 About what? The third race. 22 00:01:16,618 --> 00:01:20,830 I gave them a good tip, too. Alby's Gal. Came in 38 bucks to win. 23 00:01:21,915 --> 00:01:22,957 They should have bet. 24 00:01:22,999 --> 00:01:24,334 Thanks. 25 00:01:24,376 --> 00:01:27,962 All this body armor, and they forgot the bullet-proof ski mask. 26 00:01:28,004 --> 00:01:29,756 The other one's on the way to the hospital. 27 00:01:29,798 --> 00:01:31,966 Tell me this hump has a wallet. 28 00:01:32,008 --> 00:01:35,595 "Audentes fortuna juvat"? 29 00:01:35,637 --> 00:01:37,806 "Audentes fortuna juvat." 30 00:01:37,847 --> 00:01:41,518 Yeah. Jesse James and his dead partner both have the same tattoo, 31 00:01:41,559 --> 00:01:42,727 an eagle with what? 32 00:01:42,769 --> 00:01:44,729 "Fortune favors the brave." 33 00:01:45,689 --> 00:01:46,856 What'd you get from that guy? 34 00:01:46,898 --> 00:01:50,652 A long shot. Alby's Gal. Paid $38 to win. 35 00:01:50,694 --> 00:01:52,487 He thinks the guards should have bet. 36 00:01:53,113 --> 00:01:54,864 I guess it wasn't their lucky day. 37 00:02:44,039 --> 00:02:47,625 Male, 45 to 50. No needle marks. 38 00:02:47,709 --> 00:02:51,880 Drug panel was clean. He kept himself in shape. 39 00:02:51,921 --> 00:02:56,092 Thickened skin on the index finger of the left hand. 40 00:02:56,134 --> 00:02:57,635 He could have been a carpenter. 41 00:02:57,677 --> 00:02:58,803 Hammer kept missing the nail? 42 00:02:58,887 --> 00:03:04,934 Or a do-it-yourselfer. These scars, from the knee to the hip, 43 00:03:04,976 --> 00:03:07,604 fragments of something hit him at fairly high velocity. 44 00:03:07,645 --> 00:03:09,731 The bird house he was building blew up? 45 00:03:09,773 --> 00:03:10,690 Maybe a car accident. 46 00:03:10,732 --> 00:03:13,902 Or shrapnel. See how the skin is stretched? 47 00:03:14,819 --> 00:03:16,738 Old wounds. 20, 30 years. 48 00:03:16,780 --> 00:03:18,114 What about the tattoo? 49 00:03:18,156 --> 00:03:21,076 Within the year. Mid-life crisis. 50 00:03:21,117 --> 00:03:23,620 Some guys get a Harley, some get a tattoo. 51 00:03:24,746 --> 00:03:26,998 And what did you get? 52 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,917 27-year-old boyfriend. 53 00:03:29,918 --> 00:03:31,836 Good for you, Rodgers. 54 00:03:31,878 --> 00:03:35,340 MAC-11s. Both of them. Take a look at the slide mechanism. 55 00:03:36,049 --> 00:03:38,093 The releases are filed down. 56 00:03:38,134 --> 00:03:40,762 It's been modified from semi to full auto. 57 00:03:40,762 --> 00:03:43,264 Yeah. Our do-it-yourselfer isn't just a carpenter. 58 00:03:43,306 --> 00:03:45,100 Modifications like that aren't hard, 59 00:03:45,141 --> 00:03:46,226 if you know what you're doing. 60 00:03:46,267 --> 00:03:48,978 What about the bullet that killed the guard? Wells? 61 00:03:49,020 --> 00:03:50,313 Didn't come from these guns. 62 00:03:50,355 --> 00:03:51,856 The guy that got away? 63 00:03:51,898 --> 00:03:55,193 The residue in the casings indicates that all three guns 64 00:03:55,235 --> 00:03:56,778 used the same kind of ammunition. 65 00:03:56,778 --> 00:03:59,364 Centerfire. American-made, most likely. 66 00:03:59,406 --> 00:04:02,617 From the proportions of lead, barium, and antimony, 67 00:04:02,659 --> 00:04:04,619 I'd say a non-standard mix. 68 00:04:04,661 --> 00:04:06,871 Extra kick. Something they cooked up at home? 69 00:04:06,955 --> 00:04:08,331 Sure, depending on the home. 70 00:04:08,373 --> 00:04:11,209 Yeah, but not something you'd find in Martha Stewart. 71 00:04:12,836 --> 00:04:15,213 The good news is, the second guard's gonna make it. 72 00:04:15,296 --> 00:04:17,007 And the perp in the hospital? 73 00:04:17,048 --> 00:04:18,341 John Doe's still unconscious. 74 00:04:18,383 --> 00:04:20,760 But Latent rolled his prints and the DOA's. 75 00:04:20,802 --> 00:04:22,762 And the third guy disappeared into thin air. 76 00:04:22,804 --> 00:04:24,723 The guy in the red windbreaker. 77 00:04:24,764 --> 00:04:26,141 Not just red. 78 00:04:26,141 --> 00:04:28,309 Witnesses from the NYB, from the street, 79 00:04:28,351 --> 00:04:30,395 we got fire-engine red, cherry red. 80 00:04:30,437 --> 00:04:31,438 Crimson. 81 00:04:31,479 --> 00:04:32,897 So our fugitive's windbreaker's noticeable. 82 00:04:32,939 --> 00:04:36,776 Everyone's looking at the windbreaker. They don't see anything else. 83 00:04:36,818 --> 00:04:39,279 Prints taken off the DOA and the one in a coma. 84 00:04:39,321 --> 00:04:43,158 Matthew Brant, the DOA, and our Mr. Doe is Greg Kubie. 85 00:04:43,158 --> 00:04:45,869 Both guys are from the suburbs, Hastings. 86 00:04:45,910 --> 00:04:46,911 Criminal records? 87 00:04:46,995 --> 00:04:50,832 Not a traffic ticket between them, Brant was a vet. 88 00:04:51,291 --> 00:04:52,792 Kubie's a cop. 89 00:04:53,376 --> 00:04:55,336 Yeah. Hastings PD. 90 00:05:00,925 --> 00:05:02,886 It's him. 91 00:05:04,095 --> 00:05:05,680 I know this is hard. 92 00:05:06,931 --> 00:05:08,850 Was your husband having money problems? 93 00:05:08,892 --> 00:05:10,268 Any trouble at work? 94 00:05:11,186 --> 00:05:13,021 No. 95 00:05:13,063 --> 00:05:14,814 The third man we're looking for, 96 00:05:14,856 --> 00:05:16,691 do you have any idea who that might be? 97 00:05:17,442 --> 00:05:21,029 Other wives, how do they react? 98 00:05:22,280 --> 00:05:23,281 Everyone reacts in a different... 99 00:05:23,365 --> 00:05:26,701 Have any of the other wives called you sadists? 100 00:05:27,410 --> 00:05:29,746 My husband was a good man. 101 00:05:29,788 --> 00:05:31,915 Two or three times a week, at dinner time... 102 00:05:31,956 --> 00:05:33,375 Mom. 103 00:05:33,416 --> 00:05:37,796 ...his old students stopped by to tell him how he changed their lives. 104 00:05:37,837 --> 00:05:41,716 He was not a criminal. What right did you have to kill him? 105 00:05:41,716 --> 00:05:43,468 Kay? 106 00:05:47,180 --> 00:05:49,766 Hey, Kay. Kay, Kay, Kay... 107 00:05:52,185 --> 00:05:53,395 Easy. 108 00:05:56,481 --> 00:05:58,733 If you'll excuse me. 109 00:06:01,820 --> 00:06:04,114 I'm Mrs. Brant's brother, Phil Christie. 110 00:06:04,155 --> 00:06:05,907 Your sister's having a hard time. 111 00:06:06,783 --> 00:06:09,828 Is that a photo of Matt? Do you mind? 112 00:06:13,164 --> 00:06:16,835 It really is him. It's unbelievable. 113 00:06:16,876 --> 00:06:19,254 Did you know your brother-in-law owned a gun? 114 00:06:19,295 --> 00:06:21,005 That's not unusual up here. 115 00:06:21,339 --> 00:06:22,507 A MAC-11? 116 00:06:23,550 --> 00:06:24,926 Do you know a guy named Greg Kubie? 117 00:06:24,968 --> 00:06:30,348 Yeah, once or twice a year, he sat in on a poker game we got going. 118 00:06:30,432 --> 00:06:33,810 Was your brother-in-law tight with anyone in particular besides Kubie? 119 00:06:33,852 --> 00:06:38,106 This is a friendly community. Matt had a lot of friends. 120 00:06:38,148 --> 00:06:40,108 Any of them with eagle tattoos? 121 00:06:41,151 --> 00:06:44,154 Your brother-in-law and Kubie had the same tattoo. 122 00:06:44,195 --> 00:06:45,780 It's the first I heard of it. 123 00:06:47,907 --> 00:06:51,119 Two days ago, I was having breakfast with him. 124 00:06:52,287 --> 00:06:55,290 Today, they tell me he's murdered 125 00:06:55,331 --> 00:06:58,001 because he's trying to rob an armored car. 126 00:06:58,043 --> 00:07:01,921 He wasn't murdered. The guard he was robbing shot him in self-defense. 127 00:07:05,967 --> 00:07:10,472 Matt was one of the most decent men I have ever known. 128 00:07:12,390 --> 00:07:14,392 I'm gonna go check on my sister. Excuse me. 129 00:07:16,102 --> 00:07:17,228 That was Profaci. 130 00:07:17,270 --> 00:07:20,815 Nothing at Kubie's place except for three-day-old pizza. 131 00:07:20,857 --> 00:07:23,068 Brant and Kubie had the same tattoo. 132 00:07:23,109 --> 00:07:25,820 You want to give me odds the third guy has one, too? 133 00:07:25,820 --> 00:07:29,449 How many tattoo parlors can there be in a town this size? 134 00:07:29,491 --> 00:07:34,537 Yeah, 10-12 guys, right, came in maybe last March, April, 135 00:07:34,579 --> 00:07:36,539 eagle tattoos with something in Latin. 136 00:07:36,581 --> 00:07:37,999 All at the same time? 137 00:07:38,041 --> 00:07:39,334 Three together. 138 00:07:39,376 --> 00:07:43,171 Then, a couple of guys three weeks later ask for the same design, 139 00:07:43,171 --> 00:07:44,881 the next week, two guys. Like that. 140 00:07:44,923 --> 00:07:47,133 You keep a record? 141 00:07:47,175 --> 00:07:51,179 They came in with a picture, something from a computer thing. 142 00:07:51,221 --> 00:07:54,182 Did they tell you what it was for? A club or a gang? 143 00:07:54,224 --> 00:07:56,142 It's not my business to ask. 144 00:08:00,980 --> 00:08:03,858 Here. One of them paid by check. 145 00:08:06,152 --> 00:08:07,612 Thomas Robbins. 146 00:08:12,283 --> 00:08:14,160 The tattoos? A gag. 147 00:08:14,202 --> 00:08:16,579 A few of us got drunk one night, made a bet. 148 00:08:16,621 --> 00:08:19,416 The next morning, I forgot I had it. 149 00:08:19,457 --> 00:08:22,293 I get out of bed. Boy, was my wife pissed. 150 00:08:22,335 --> 00:08:23,545 Who made the bet? 151 00:08:23,586 --> 00:08:27,007 Tony Lapella, Al Goodman, Matt Brant... 152 00:08:27,048 --> 00:08:28,383 You know Brant well? 153 00:08:28,425 --> 00:08:30,301 Since high school. A decent guy. 154 00:08:30,343 --> 00:08:33,555 History teacher, basketball coach, active in the church. 155 00:08:33,555 --> 00:08:35,306 What about Greg Kubie? 156 00:08:35,348 --> 00:08:39,477 Never met him. I guess he saw the tattoo on one of my buddies. 157 00:08:39,519 --> 00:08:40,895 Yeah, I guess so. 158 00:08:40,937 --> 00:08:43,148 Everybody in town's been talking about it, 159 00:08:43,189 --> 00:08:45,942 and I don't know what did or didn't happen, 160 00:08:45,984 --> 00:08:49,446 but one thing I do know is, Matt Brant couldn't hold up anyone. 161 00:08:49,487 --> 00:08:52,073 And the 20 or 30 witnesses? 162 00:08:54,367 --> 00:08:55,410 Mind if I use your phone? 163 00:08:55,452 --> 00:08:56,870 Yeah. 164 00:08:57,704 --> 00:09:02,333 So, where were you on Tuesday at 2:00 p.m.? 165 00:09:02,417 --> 00:09:06,379 A bunch of guys get a tattoo, they got to be crooks? Is that it? 166 00:09:06,421 --> 00:09:09,090 Two guys rob an armored car, they both have the same tattoo, 167 00:09:09,090 --> 00:09:11,009 we have to take that into consideration. 168 00:09:12,635 --> 00:09:14,346 Day before yesterday, 2:00 p.m., 169 00:09:14,387 --> 00:09:16,931 I was just finishing meals-on-wheels. 170 00:09:17,724 --> 00:09:21,102 Every week, same time, same day. 171 00:09:21,144 --> 00:09:23,438 We're not like you guys in New York. 172 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,690 Kubie just regained consciousness. 173 00:09:29,402 --> 00:09:32,238 If I wanted a lawyer, I'd hire one. But, Mr. Kubie... 174 00:09:32,989 --> 00:09:33,990 Who have you talked to about my case? 175 00:09:34,032 --> 00:09:35,325 No one, but I still think it's important... 176 00:09:35,367 --> 00:09:36,284 Get out. 177 00:09:36,284 --> 00:09:37,702 These are detectives. I'd advise you... 178 00:09:37,744 --> 00:09:39,621 Get the hell out! 179 00:09:42,374 --> 00:09:43,458 You can get out, too. 180 00:09:43,500 --> 00:09:44,501 Why don't we just... 181 00:09:44,542 --> 00:09:45,627 I have the right to remain silent. 182 00:09:45,627 --> 00:09:46,836 Officer Kubie... 183 00:09:46,878 --> 00:09:48,630 Anything I say can be used against me in a court of law. 184 00:09:48,672 --> 00:09:52,217 Look, I got nothing to say to you. 185 00:09:56,471 --> 00:09:59,641 Cops. What a pain. He's not gonna roll easy. 186 00:09:59,682 --> 00:10:02,102 Hey, that tattoo artist, she said they came in 187 00:10:02,143 --> 00:10:03,978 with a picture printed from a computer. 188 00:10:05,313 --> 00:10:08,441 I type in what we're looking for, eagle graphics 189 00:10:08,483 --> 00:10:12,570 and the motto "Audentes fortuna juvat." 190 00:10:12,612 --> 00:10:15,073 The search engine does the rest. 191 00:10:15,115 --> 00:10:17,117 If it's anywhere on the Internet, we'll get a hit. 192 00:10:17,158 --> 00:10:18,535 One of these days, you'll have to teach me 193 00:10:18,576 --> 00:10:20,245 how to play solitaire on that thing. 194 00:10:21,246 --> 00:10:25,667 Bingo. This shows us where to find it. 195 00:10:25,709 --> 00:10:27,335 Let's surf the Net. 196 00:10:30,380 --> 00:10:35,677 The New Sons of Liberty homepage. It's a militia. 197 00:10:35,719 --> 00:10:37,512 Maybe Jesse James and his pals 198 00:10:37,554 --> 00:10:39,431 were trying to finance a revolution. 199 00:10:43,601 --> 00:10:46,312 What you're saying is, I've got this tattoo, 200 00:10:46,354 --> 00:10:49,649 it means I belong to this group, the New Sons of Liberty? 201 00:10:49,691 --> 00:10:51,067 Do you? 202 00:10:54,195 --> 00:10:57,615 How about you, Detective? Are you active in politics? 203 00:10:57,657 --> 00:10:59,409 How about answering my question? 204 00:10:59,451 --> 00:11:01,494 I figure you for a disappointed Democrat, 205 00:11:01,536 --> 00:11:03,580 or maybe a disappointed Republican? 206 00:11:03,621 --> 00:11:05,290 You're disappointed in something. 207 00:11:05,331 --> 00:11:07,250 It's a nice computer you got there. 208 00:11:07,292 --> 00:11:09,544 Is that where you keep your virtual clubhouse? 209 00:11:09,586 --> 00:11:12,339 You thinking of dropping in? Maybe signing up? 210 00:11:12,380 --> 00:11:15,383 Depends on the dues. Cops get a special rate? 211 00:11:18,178 --> 00:11:21,806 "Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech 212 00:11:21,848 --> 00:11:23,767 "or the right of the people to assemble, 213 00:11:23,808 --> 00:11:27,771 "and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." 214 00:11:30,190 --> 00:11:32,776 I don't have to tell you anything about my politics. 215 00:11:36,529 --> 00:11:38,114 "What about Waco? 216 00:11:38,156 --> 00:11:41,159 "The Feds pumped the Davidian compound full of CS, 217 00:11:41,242 --> 00:11:46,164 "which is highly flammable, and then started the fire which killed women and kids." 218 00:11:47,624 --> 00:11:52,253 "The FBI infrared surveillance tape made at Waco 219 00:11:52,253 --> 00:11:56,633 "shows flashes coming from the FBI forces 220 00:11:56,674 --> 00:12:00,178 "that could have been incendiary fire." 221 00:12:00,887 --> 00:12:01,846 It's 3:00 in the morning. 222 00:12:01,888 --> 00:12:03,848 That's when they come out of the woodwork. 223 00:12:05,683 --> 00:12:08,186 "It was a show of force to scare off anyone 224 00:12:08,228 --> 00:12:10,605 "who wants to fight Big Brother. 225 00:12:10,647 --> 00:12:13,525 "We've got to learn how to defend ourselves." 226 00:12:13,942 --> 00:12:15,026 "I'm ready. 227 00:12:15,068 --> 00:12:19,280 "Do you know any websites where I can find out more?" 228 00:12:19,322 --> 00:12:20,532 What are you doing? 229 00:12:23,827 --> 00:12:25,787 I'm looking for the black helicopters. 230 00:12:25,829 --> 00:12:27,831 They don't come near urban centers. 231 00:12:30,583 --> 00:12:31,876 Lennie, we're in. 232 00:12:35,547 --> 00:12:37,298 You got this from a chat room? 233 00:12:37,298 --> 00:12:38,758 A New Sons of Liberty sub-site. 234 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,218 Which we found through a chat room. 235 00:12:40,260 --> 00:12:44,180 This tells you how to modify a semi-automatic weapon to full auto 236 00:12:44,222 --> 00:12:47,600 in the same way the guns used in the robbery were modified. 237 00:12:47,642 --> 00:12:50,395 Are we sure one of the New Sons of Liberty posted it? 238 00:12:50,437 --> 00:12:53,148 No, but it's a connection. 239 00:12:53,857 --> 00:12:54,733 It's a stretch. 240 00:12:54,816 --> 00:12:56,818 Your Honor, if I publish a magazine article 241 00:12:56,860 --> 00:12:59,404 by an anonymous author on how to make a bomb... 242 00:12:59,446 --> 00:13:00,697 You're gonna protect your anonymous author. 243 00:13:00,739 --> 00:13:02,991 But if that article advocates using that bomb... 244 00:13:02,991 --> 00:13:06,703 Can I subpoena your notes to find out the identity of the author? 245 00:13:06,745 --> 00:13:07,746 We're on very murky ground here. 246 00:13:07,829 --> 00:13:09,956 This is speech protected by the First Amendment. 247 00:13:09,998 --> 00:13:12,333 With these instructions, the New Sons of Liberty 248 00:13:12,375 --> 00:13:14,711 advocate illegal use of automatic weapons. 249 00:13:14,753 --> 00:13:18,882 It's no longer free speech, it's a verbal act. An illegal act. 250 00:13:19,799 --> 00:13:22,761 I don't know. I don't like this. 251 00:13:24,763 --> 00:13:27,807 My daughter just had a baby. A girl. Two weeks ago. 252 00:13:27,849 --> 00:13:30,435 I want her to have the same freedoms I've had. 253 00:13:30,477 --> 00:13:32,771 And if she becomes an armored car guard? 254 00:13:36,358 --> 00:13:37,901 Give me the paper. 255 00:13:40,612 --> 00:13:41,863 I figured you'd be back. 256 00:13:41,905 --> 00:13:42,906 With a warrant? 257 00:13:43,782 --> 00:13:48,203 I was going to say with stormtroopers. 258 00:13:48,244 --> 00:13:49,954 Look, why don't you make it easy on all of us 259 00:13:49,996 --> 00:13:52,624 and just give us a list of the New Sons of Liberty? 260 00:13:54,334 --> 00:13:55,919 Am I under arrest? No. 261 00:14:01,925 --> 00:14:04,886 Lock up when you're done. 262 00:14:04,928 --> 00:14:06,304 Keep an eye on him. 263 00:14:09,933 --> 00:14:13,395 The New Sons of Liberty membership list. Twenty in all. 264 00:14:13,436 --> 00:14:14,854 A nice round number. 265 00:14:14,896 --> 00:14:16,773 Not enough to start a revolution. 266 00:14:16,815 --> 00:14:18,608 More than enough to rob an armored car. 267 00:14:18,650 --> 00:14:20,902 We need search warrants for their homes and workplaces 268 00:14:20,902 --> 00:14:22,946 to be executed simultaneously. 269 00:14:22,988 --> 00:14:24,406 6:00 a.m. 270 00:14:24,447 --> 00:14:26,533 A big show of force. 271 00:14:26,574 --> 00:14:28,034 Will the department back you up on this? 272 00:14:28,076 --> 00:14:29,577 I'll get the money. 273 00:14:30,453 --> 00:14:31,996 Then, I'll get the warrants. 274 00:14:41,506 --> 00:14:44,634 What are you looking for? My son is only 17! 275 00:14:44,676 --> 00:14:47,971 The New Sons of Liberty don't have an age limit. 276 00:14:48,013 --> 00:14:51,599 Read the warrant. If you have any questions, I'll be glad to answer them. 277 00:14:54,060 --> 00:14:56,938 Why don't you check out that cabinet over there. 278 00:15:08,867 --> 00:15:11,036 Hey, Sergeant. Yes, sir? 279 00:15:11,077 --> 00:15:12,704 Open this up. 280 00:15:16,916 --> 00:15:18,501 We hit the mother lode in the crawl space. 281 00:15:18,543 --> 00:15:22,630 "A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, 282 00:15:22,672 --> 00:15:27,469 "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." 283 00:15:27,469 --> 00:15:31,431 Look at this, full autos, AK-47s, a couple of MAS .223s, 284 00:15:31,473 --> 00:15:33,850 a bunch of M16s, boxes of ammo. 285 00:15:33,892 --> 00:15:36,352 Yeah. Enough guns to take over Staten Island. 286 00:15:36,394 --> 00:15:38,563 Take a picture and send it to Charlton Heston. 287 00:15:38,605 --> 00:15:41,358 Pack this stuff up. Take everybody downtown. 288 00:15:41,399 --> 00:15:42,692 Okay. Let's go now. 289 00:15:42,734 --> 00:15:49,074 Cray, Lewis, March 21, 1965. Private, New Sons of Liberty, 016. 290 00:15:49,157 --> 00:15:51,659 Okay, Mr. Cray, Lewis. 291 00:15:51,659 --> 00:15:53,078 We're gonna need to know your whereabouts 292 00:15:53,119 --> 00:15:56,456 on the afternoon of Tuesday, August 8th. 293 00:15:56,498 --> 00:15:58,917 Cray, Lewis. March 21st... 294 00:15:58,958 --> 00:16:02,837 1951. Sergeant, New Sons of Liberty, 004. 295 00:16:02,879 --> 00:16:06,591 004? What are you, James Bond minus three? 296 00:16:06,633 --> 00:16:08,718 Robbins, Thomas. October 15th... 297 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,681 1980. Private, New Sons of Liberty, 018. 298 00:16:13,264 --> 00:16:15,517 Listen up, tin soldier, 299 00:16:15,517 --> 00:16:17,644 this is no game. 300 00:16:17,686 --> 00:16:19,854 Felony murder means a needle in the arm, 301 00:16:19,896 --> 00:16:25,026 so if you don't want to be the sucker on the slab, wise up. 302 00:16:25,068 --> 00:16:29,614 Brant, Matthew Jr. December 18th, 1980. Private... 303 00:16:29,656 --> 00:16:33,076 Automatic weapons, munitions, body armor. 304 00:16:33,118 --> 00:16:38,623 Is that what the robbery was for, more guns? Bigger guns? 305 00:16:38,665 --> 00:16:41,793 Christie, Philip. August 4th, 1962. 306 00:16:41,835 --> 00:16:45,797 Major, New Sons of Liberty, 002. 307 00:16:46,631 --> 00:16:48,091 LT, you have a call. 308 00:16:49,676 --> 00:16:52,429 Make sure the Major is comfortable. 309 00:16:58,226 --> 00:17:01,896 So far I've got calls from the ATF, the FBI, 310 00:17:01,938 --> 00:17:04,816 the whole alphabet soup down in Washington. 311 00:17:04,858 --> 00:17:06,026 Let them take a number. 312 00:17:06,067 --> 00:17:08,987 It's our case, New York City. They have no jurisdiction. 313 00:17:09,029 --> 00:17:11,573 They took jurisdiction in Waco. 314 00:17:11,614 --> 00:17:12,824 The murder weapon? 315 00:17:12,907 --> 00:17:14,492 Not among the ones we found. 316 00:17:14,534 --> 00:17:16,619 They're smart. Probably tossed it in the Hudson. 317 00:17:16,661 --> 00:17:19,706 Well, if it's any consolation, we have the militia members' prints 318 00:17:19,748 --> 00:17:21,499 all over the guns. 319 00:17:21,583 --> 00:17:24,544 But no connection to the murder. 320 00:17:24,586 --> 00:17:28,131 So after all that, we charge them with simple gun possession. 321 00:17:28,173 --> 00:17:32,802 They post bail. We look like fascists or idiots, take your pick. 322 00:17:34,804 --> 00:17:38,099 McCoy. It's for you. 323 00:17:39,601 --> 00:17:41,019 Yeah? 324 00:17:44,272 --> 00:17:46,191 Thanks for calling. 325 00:17:46,232 --> 00:17:48,985 Ballistics. The special powder in the ammunition, 326 00:17:49,027 --> 00:17:50,320 the home-load used in the robbery, 327 00:17:50,362 --> 00:17:53,782 they found it in the arsenal seized in Christie's house. 328 00:17:56,701 --> 00:17:58,995 But we don't have the murder weapon. 329 00:18:04,751 --> 00:18:06,211 The hell with it. 330 00:18:06,294 --> 00:18:09,506 Conspiracy to commit murder and robbery. Charge them all. 331 00:18:14,678 --> 00:18:17,639 "Docket number 57643, 332 00:18:17,639 --> 00:18:20,725 "the People v. Philip Christie, Thomas Robbins, et al. 333 00:18:20,809 --> 00:18:23,645 "Murder in the First Degree, Attempted Murder in the First Degree, 334 00:18:23,686 --> 00:18:24,604 "Conspiracy in the First Degree, 335 00:18:24,646 --> 00:18:27,023 "Attempted Grand Larceny in the First Degree." 336 00:18:27,065 --> 00:18:29,150 Ms. Mandel, how do they plead? 337 00:18:29,192 --> 00:18:31,069 Your Honor, as ranking officer 338 00:18:31,111 --> 00:18:35,198 my co-defendants have chosen me to act as our own counsel. 339 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:36,574 Are you a lawyer? 340 00:18:36,658 --> 00:18:39,703 I've worked as a bailiff. I know about your rules and procedures. 341 00:18:39,744 --> 00:18:41,913 You file the motion, the court will consider it. 342 00:18:41,955 --> 00:18:43,123 Now enter a plea. 343 00:18:43,164 --> 00:18:47,168 Your Honor, for all defendants on all charges, not guilty. 344 00:18:47,210 --> 00:18:48,837 Your Honor, the People request remand. 345 00:18:48,837 --> 00:18:51,548 Your Honor, we move that all charges be dismissed 346 00:18:51,589 --> 00:18:54,342 on the grounds that we are prisoners of war 347 00:18:54,342 --> 00:18:56,261 under the terms of the Geneva Convention. 348 00:18:56,302 --> 00:18:57,929 What? 349 00:18:58,012 --> 00:19:01,975 Mr. Christie, this is a civilian criminal court. 350 00:19:02,017 --> 00:19:03,601 I have no authority to rule on your motion. 351 00:19:03,643 --> 00:19:04,769 You do, 352 00:19:04,811 --> 00:19:08,273 Your Honor. That flag has fringes on it, 353 00:19:08,315 --> 00:19:10,567 which means it is a military flag. 354 00:19:10,608 --> 00:19:13,153 Which means this court is a military tribunal. 355 00:19:13,194 --> 00:19:18,033 You must recognize us as prisoners of war exempt from trial. 356 00:19:18,033 --> 00:19:18,992 Our motion... 357 00:19:19,034 --> 00:19:21,161 Mr. Christie, I don't care how many fringes, 358 00:19:21,202 --> 00:19:23,288 bells and whistles are on this flag, 359 00:19:23,329 --> 00:19:26,916 this is a civilian criminal court. Got it? 360 00:19:26,958 --> 00:19:30,628 Bail is set at $1 million for each defendant. Next case. 361 00:19:31,588 --> 00:19:34,591 Prisoners of war? What's he talking about? 362 00:19:34,632 --> 00:19:37,719 The New Sons of Liberty believe they're at war with the US Government. 363 00:19:37,761 --> 00:19:40,930 And Son of Sam got his marching orders from a dog. 364 00:19:40,972 --> 00:19:41,723 It's nonsense. 365 00:19:41,723 --> 00:19:44,601 Have you read their manifesto? 366 00:19:44,642 --> 00:19:46,102 "For the sake of global trade, 367 00:19:46,144 --> 00:19:50,023 "low wages and high profits, the US Government has mortgaged its sovereignty 368 00:19:50,065 --> 00:19:53,943 "to global interests, and has endowed the FBI, the ATF, and the CIA 369 00:19:53,985 --> 00:19:57,238 "with extraordinary powers to enforce this new world order." 370 00:19:57,238 --> 00:19:58,406 You could make a case for that. 371 00:19:58,448 --> 00:20:01,117 Have you started wearing fatigues under your clothes? 372 00:20:01,159 --> 00:20:03,787 Jack, these are not religious fanatics living on a compound. 373 00:20:03,828 --> 00:20:05,288 They're articulate... Misguided... 374 00:20:05,330 --> 00:20:08,166 Definitely, but don't underestimate them. They've got lots of support. 375 00:20:08,249 --> 00:20:11,336 They've already raised six of the $20 million they need, 376 00:20:11,378 --> 00:20:12,671 from every state in the union, 377 00:20:12,712 --> 00:20:15,090 not one contribution over $500. 378 00:20:15,131 --> 00:20:18,009 And who was this guard they killed? A redcoat? 379 00:20:18,051 --> 00:20:20,762 You need to prove there was a conspiracy. 380 00:20:20,804 --> 00:20:24,766 Seventy rounds fired, two dead. No problem with the overt act. 381 00:20:24,808 --> 00:20:26,935 And your proof of the agreement to commit the robbery? 382 00:20:26,976 --> 00:20:28,770 So far no one's rolled on that. 383 00:20:28,770 --> 00:20:30,647 The agreement can be inferred 384 00:20:30,689 --> 00:20:32,816 from membership in the New Sons of Liberty. 385 00:20:32,857 --> 00:20:34,150 Guilt by association? 386 00:20:34,192 --> 00:20:37,946 If it's an association dedicated to murder and mayhem, why not? 387 00:20:44,369 --> 00:20:47,706 Now I have to take him seriously. 388 00:20:47,747 --> 00:20:51,126 Christie got his motion in front of Judge Scarletti. 389 00:20:51,167 --> 00:20:54,838 Just be sure we don't have to go to The Hague to try this case. 390 00:20:55,213 --> 00:20:56,131 Ha! 391 00:20:56,172 --> 00:21:00,009 The Geneva Convention defines prisoners of war 392 00:21:00,051 --> 00:21:03,847 as "persons who have fallen into the power of the enemy." 393 00:21:03,888 --> 00:21:05,724 The enemy being the District Attorney? 394 00:21:05,807 --> 00:21:07,684 And any office or branch of any government 395 00:21:07,726 --> 00:21:10,478 which is not constituted of and by the people. 396 00:21:10,478 --> 00:21:13,314 Your Honor, how long are we going to humor this man? 397 00:21:13,356 --> 00:21:16,109 On its face, this is a patently absurd motion. 398 00:21:16,151 --> 00:21:18,653 Mr. McCoy, please. 399 00:21:20,155 --> 00:21:21,865 Go on, Mr. Christie. 400 00:21:22,907 --> 00:21:25,410 Under the convention, such prisoners of war 401 00:21:25,452 --> 00:21:28,079 include the armed forces of a party to a conflict, 402 00:21:28,121 --> 00:21:31,041 as well as members of militia or volunteer corps, 403 00:21:31,082 --> 00:21:34,044 including members of an organized resistance movement. 404 00:21:34,085 --> 00:21:36,421 Your Honor, the convention protects combatants, 405 00:21:36,504 --> 00:21:38,131 not common criminals. 406 00:21:38,173 --> 00:21:41,259 It requires the existence of an open, armed conflict. 407 00:21:41,301 --> 00:21:43,386 Lexington, Concord, Bunker Hill, 408 00:21:43,428 --> 00:21:45,930 the Revolutionary War was fought for months 409 00:21:45,972 --> 00:21:48,016 before hostilities were officially declared. 410 00:21:48,058 --> 00:21:49,726 They didn't attack an Army base. 411 00:21:49,768 --> 00:21:52,312 They robbed a New York State Betting Office. 412 00:21:52,354 --> 00:21:53,563 At best, they're terrorists. 413 00:21:53,605 --> 00:21:57,067 Mr. Christie's so-called army amounts to 20-odd hoodlums. 414 00:21:57,108 --> 00:21:58,735 Twenty? 1,000? 10,000? 415 00:21:58,777 --> 00:22:00,362 How many have to believe what I believe 416 00:22:00,403 --> 00:22:02,072 before you recognize my right to say, 417 00:22:02,113 --> 00:22:05,909 "This is wrong, this must be changed"? 418 00:22:05,950 --> 00:22:09,954 Mr. Christie, this isn't a First Amendment issue. 419 00:22:10,038 --> 00:22:12,123 Your motion has been tried in the past 420 00:22:12,165 --> 00:22:15,377 by the Black Panthers and by other groups. 421 00:22:15,418 --> 00:22:19,798 Granting it would give license to any criminal organization 422 00:22:19,839 --> 00:22:22,217 to circumvent the criminal justice system 423 00:22:22,217 --> 00:22:27,931 by declaring themselves at war with the government. Motion denied. 424 00:22:27,972 --> 00:22:31,810 As to your motion to act as your own counsel, it's granted. 425 00:22:31,851 --> 00:22:37,273 But I want Ms. Mandel to serve as your legal advisor. 426 00:22:38,525 --> 00:22:41,903 Now, we're going to trial. 427 00:22:45,281 --> 00:22:48,493 Did you compare the gunpowder found in Mr. Christie's basement 428 00:22:48,535 --> 00:22:50,245 to that found at the crime scene? 429 00:22:50,286 --> 00:22:51,329 Yes, sir. 430 00:22:51,413 --> 00:22:52,372 And what did you find? 431 00:22:52,414 --> 00:22:53,748 "We hold these truths to be self-evident..." 432 00:22:53,790 --> 00:22:55,917 Silence! "...that all men are created equal." 433 00:22:55,959 --> 00:22:57,043 Silence in the court! 434 00:22:57,085 --> 00:22:58,461 "That they are endowed by their creator..." 435 00:22:58,503 --> 00:22:59,337 Silence in the court! 436 00:22:59,421 --> 00:23:00,547 "...with certain unalienable rights..." 437 00:23:00,588 --> 00:23:02,799 Bailiff, please remove the defendant. 438 00:23:02,841 --> 00:23:03,800 Order in the court. 439 00:23:03,842 --> 00:23:05,260 "...that among these are life, liberty, 440 00:23:05,301 --> 00:23:06,720 "and the pursuit of happiness. 441 00:23:06,761 --> 00:23:11,850 "That to secure these rights governments are instituted among men..." 442 00:23:11,933 --> 00:23:14,561 Your Honor, I object to this removal. 443 00:23:14,602 --> 00:23:16,187 Overruled. 444 00:23:16,229 --> 00:23:18,440 We will make provisions for the defendant 445 00:23:18,481 --> 00:23:20,817 to observe the procedures of this court 446 00:23:20,859 --> 00:23:23,361 through closed-circuit television. 447 00:23:23,445 --> 00:23:26,031 You may sit down, Mr. Christie. 448 00:23:30,452 --> 00:23:32,328 Mr. McCoy, you may continue. 449 00:23:36,207 --> 00:23:40,795 Did you compare the gunpowder found in Mr. Christie's basement 450 00:23:40,837 --> 00:23:42,922 to the gunpowder at the murder scene? 451 00:23:42,964 --> 00:23:46,551 Yes, sir. Both had the same distinctive chemical composition. 452 00:23:46,634 --> 00:23:49,137 In my opinion, they were from the same batch. 453 00:23:52,348 --> 00:23:53,391 Thank you. 454 00:23:53,433 --> 00:23:54,601 Do you pay taxes? 455 00:23:54,642 --> 00:23:56,978 Objection. Sustained. 456 00:23:57,020 --> 00:23:59,064 Have you ever read the Constitution 457 00:23:59,147 --> 00:24:00,523 of the United States of America? 458 00:24:00,565 --> 00:24:02,400 Objection. Sustained. 459 00:24:08,490 --> 00:24:10,075 No more questions. 460 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:19,501 Yeah, I carried a gun. But I never thought I'd have to shoot anyone. 461 00:24:19,542 --> 00:24:20,543 It was crazy. Suddenly... 462 00:24:20,585 --> 00:24:21,378 "That whenever any form of government..." 463 00:24:21,419 --> 00:24:22,712 Order in the court! 464 00:24:22,754 --> 00:24:24,881 "...becomes destructive of these ends..." I warned you! 465 00:24:24,923 --> 00:24:25,965 "...it is the right of the people to alter..." 466 00:24:26,007 --> 00:24:27,217 Bailiff, remove the defendant! 467 00:24:27,258 --> 00:24:29,219 "...or to abolish it and to..." Get him out of my court. 468 00:24:29,260 --> 00:24:30,929 "...institute new government laying its foundation..." 469 00:24:30,970 --> 00:24:31,930 You hear me? "...on such principles 470 00:24:31,971 --> 00:24:35,100 "and organizing its powers in such form..." 471 00:24:36,267 --> 00:24:38,353 "Governments are instituted among men..." 472 00:24:43,024 --> 00:24:45,026 You were saying, Mr. Parent? 473 00:24:46,111 --> 00:24:48,905 Suddenly, everybody was shooting. 474 00:24:50,407 --> 00:24:52,909 What do you know about the new world order? 475 00:24:53,952 --> 00:24:55,620 Before this trial, I never heard of it. 476 00:24:55,662 --> 00:24:57,539 Do you work for it? 477 00:24:57,539 --> 00:24:58,623 No, sir. 478 00:24:58,665 --> 00:25:01,501 What branch of the government do you work for? 479 00:25:01,543 --> 00:25:05,880 No branch. I work for the Stevens Securities Transfer Company. 480 00:25:06,256 --> 00:25:07,465 Thank you. 481 00:25:13,138 --> 00:25:17,475 Mr. Parent, who owns the Stevens Securities Transfer Company? 482 00:25:18,309 --> 00:25:19,269 I don't know. 483 00:25:19,310 --> 00:25:20,395 Who's on the board? 484 00:25:22,355 --> 00:25:23,481 I don't know. 485 00:25:23,523 --> 00:25:26,109 Could they be working for a multinational corporation... 486 00:25:26,151 --> 00:25:26,985 Objection. 487 00:25:27,027 --> 00:25:28,486 Sustained. 488 00:25:28,528 --> 00:25:29,612 How about New York Bets? 489 00:25:29,654 --> 00:25:31,072 What? Who owns it? 490 00:25:32,157 --> 00:25:34,284 The State, I guess. New York State? 491 00:25:35,285 --> 00:25:36,244 Yeah. 492 00:25:36,286 --> 00:25:39,080 Do you know who actually runs New York Bets? 493 00:25:40,332 --> 00:25:41,291 No. 494 00:25:41,333 --> 00:25:42,959 And you didn't vote for any of them, did you? 495 00:25:43,001 --> 00:25:44,419 Objection. Sustained. 496 00:25:44,419 --> 00:25:48,631 Mr. Christie, if you have no relevant questions, you may sit down. 497 00:25:48,673 --> 00:25:52,093 I have questions the jury may find relevant. 498 00:25:52,135 --> 00:25:56,139 Your cross-examination is over. The witness is excused. 499 00:26:06,358 --> 00:26:09,319 They weren't called the New Sons of Liberty then. 500 00:26:10,487 --> 00:26:14,115 A few years ago, my brother, Phil, and my husband 501 00:26:14,157 --> 00:26:15,575 used to sit around the kitchen table 502 00:26:15,617 --> 00:26:20,705 and talk about how the FBI shot that woman and her baby at Ruby Ridge, 503 00:26:20,747 --> 00:26:23,458 about how no one in the government cared about anything 504 00:26:23,500 --> 00:26:25,418 but the special interests. 505 00:26:25,460 --> 00:26:26,670 Special interests? 506 00:26:26,711 --> 00:26:30,465 If you're rich or poor, the government pays attention. 507 00:26:30,465 --> 00:26:34,761 But the average family in America doesn't stand a chance. 508 00:26:34,803 --> 00:26:36,221 Like what happened with my brother 509 00:26:36,262 --> 00:26:39,599 when the government wouldn't let him see his kids after the divorce 510 00:26:39,641 --> 00:26:43,019 and they gave custody to his wife. 511 00:26:43,061 --> 00:26:48,775 At any time, did your husband discuss plans for a robbery with you? 512 00:26:48,817 --> 00:26:56,241 Well, the more involved Matt got with the group, the angrier he got. 513 00:26:56,282 --> 00:26:59,494 And it wasn't like he was angry at anything in particular. 514 00:26:59,494 --> 00:27:03,707 It was almost like he was angry at our life, 515 00:27:03,748 --> 00:27:06,334 at what we had, at what we didn't have. 516 00:27:07,419 --> 00:27:11,214 After a while, I could hardly talk to him anymore. 517 00:27:11,256 --> 00:27:17,721 Mrs. Brant, did he ever talk about a robbery with you? 518 00:27:17,762 --> 00:27:22,350 Matt woke me up one night, after Phil and the others had been there, 519 00:27:22,392 --> 00:27:28,106 and he told me they had planned a robbery, 520 00:27:29,274 --> 00:27:33,069 and that he had volunteered for the mission, 521 00:27:33,111 --> 00:27:34,738 and there was some danger involved, 522 00:27:34,779 --> 00:27:38,366 and that if anything happened to him, 523 00:27:38,408 --> 00:27:41,536 he wanted me to know that he did it for my sake 524 00:27:42,662 --> 00:27:46,291 and for Matt Jr., for the country. 525 00:27:47,125 --> 00:27:49,169 And what did you say? 526 00:27:49,836 --> 00:27:52,297 I told him I didn't understand. 527 00:27:54,132 --> 00:27:56,593 I didn't understand. 528 00:27:56,634 --> 00:27:58,553 The government wasn't bothering us. 529 00:27:58,595 --> 00:28:01,639 I didn't understand why they had to commit a crime. 530 00:28:06,311 --> 00:28:07,604 Thank you. 531 00:28:24,496 --> 00:28:26,081 Mrs. Brant, 532 00:28:27,916 --> 00:28:31,086 was your decision to testify coerced in any way? 533 00:28:31,419 --> 00:28:32,253 Objection. 534 00:28:32,295 --> 00:28:33,630 Sustained. 535 00:28:35,298 --> 00:28:37,092 Did Mr. McCoy offer you anything 536 00:28:37,133 --> 00:28:39,094 in exchange for your testimony? 537 00:28:39,469 --> 00:28:40,512 Objection. 538 00:28:40,553 --> 00:28:42,347 Overruled. 539 00:28:42,389 --> 00:28:44,474 Answer the question, Mrs. Brant. 540 00:28:48,561 --> 00:28:53,692 Mr. McCoy said if I testify, he'd sever my son's case 541 00:28:53,733 --> 00:28:55,276 and try him on reduced charges. 542 00:28:55,318 --> 00:28:58,363 No! No, Mom! You shouldn't have done this! 543 00:28:58,405 --> 00:29:00,156 Turning mother and son against each other. 544 00:29:00,198 --> 00:29:01,324 Order in the court! 545 00:29:01,366 --> 00:29:02,367 Mr. Christie, please sit down. 546 00:29:02,409 --> 00:29:03,535 Do you think the American people 547 00:29:03,576 --> 00:29:04,911 are gonna stand by and watch as you tear a family apart? 548 00:29:04,953 --> 00:29:07,163 Bailiff, will you sit the defendant back down? 549 00:29:07,205 --> 00:29:09,207 Remove those defendants! 550 00:29:09,290 --> 00:29:10,667 Remove those defendants! 551 00:29:10,709 --> 00:29:11,751 No! 552 00:29:11,793 --> 00:29:13,795 Remove those defendants! 553 00:29:28,268 --> 00:29:31,312 Christie's master plan. Look at his witness list. 554 00:29:31,313 --> 00:29:34,733 The directors of the CIA, the NSA, the President. 555 00:29:34,774 --> 00:29:37,652 The judge excludes them, Christie yells cover-up. 556 00:29:37,694 --> 00:29:39,612 When you have no case... Right. 557 00:29:40,822 --> 00:29:43,491 It leaves him with just one witness, 558 00:29:43,533 --> 00:29:44,534 himself. 559 00:29:49,581 --> 00:29:51,708 Ross. Uh-huh. 560 00:29:53,376 --> 00:29:55,211 Uh-huh. We'll be right over. 561 00:29:56,463 --> 00:29:57,839 That was Judge Scarletti's clerk. 562 00:29:57,881 --> 00:29:59,799 There's a problem with one of the jurors. 563 00:30:04,012 --> 00:30:05,263 Mr. Shelby, it has come to my attention 564 00:30:05,305 --> 00:30:10,393 that you passed some reading material on to another juror. 565 00:30:10,435 --> 00:30:12,228 Yes, sir. To Bob Clark. 566 00:30:12,729 --> 00:30:14,397 It's a newspaper. 567 00:30:14,439 --> 00:30:16,483 Is this it? The Crisis. 568 00:30:16,524 --> 00:30:21,279 Yes, sir. It's named after the newspaper published in 1776. 569 00:30:21,321 --> 00:30:24,657 How would you characterize this newspaper? 570 00:30:27,577 --> 00:30:31,748 "Our new army at both ends of the continent is recruiting fast, 571 00:30:31,790 --> 00:30:37,253 "and we shall be able to open the next campaign with 60,000 men." 572 00:30:38,672 --> 00:30:40,882 Isn't this inflammatory? 573 00:30:40,924 --> 00:30:44,761 It's a quote. From Thomas Paine, one of the founding fathers. 574 00:30:45,595 --> 00:30:48,306 In the voir dire, you were asked 575 00:30:48,348 --> 00:30:49,641 if you had any opinions 576 00:30:49,682 --> 00:30:53,395 which might prevent you from judging this case objectively. 577 00:30:54,354 --> 00:30:56,272 I believe I can judge it objectively. 578 00:30:56,314 --> 00:30:59,442 You told Mr. Clark that you and some of the other jurors 579 00:30:59,484 --> 00:31:02,028 had made up their minds to acquit. 580 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,450 You said you wanted to send a message. 581 00:31:08,743 --> 00:31:12,247 What message would that be, Mr. Shelby? 582 00:31:12,288 --> 00:31:15,792 In this country, the people and not the courts are sovereign. 583 00:31:15,834 --> 00:31:17,252 Isn't that right, Your Honor? 584 00:31:19,003 --> 00:31:22,257 Thank you, Mr. Shelby, you can go. 585 00:31:26,761 --> 00:31:28,972 So, Your Honor, he's dismissed? 586 00:31:29,013 --> 00:31:31,975 Why? He's going to exercise his right as a citizen 587 00:31:32,017 --> 00:31:34,477 and decide the case on its merits. 588 00:31:34,519 --> 00:31:37,689 Your Honor, I move you excuse the entire jury and declare a mistrial. 589 00:31:37,731 --> 00:31:38,815 Because they might acquit? 590 00:31:38,857 --> 00:31:41,693 Because Mr. Shelby is encouraging them to nullify. 591 00:31:41,735 --> 00:31:45,280 Which is his right in an illegal trial, 592 00:31:45,321 --> 00:31:47,324 and you've already thrown out all my co-defendants. 593 00:31:47,365 --> 00:31:48,992 Now you want to throw out the jury, too? 594 00:31:49,034 --> 00:31:52,912 It's not enough you have the whole power of government behind you, 595 00:31:52,954 --> 00:31:54,205 you also have to rig the verdict. 596 00:31:54,247 --> 00:31:56,708 You entered the courtroom with the presumption of innocence, 597 00:31:56,750 --> 00:31:58,084 just like anyone else. 598 00:31:58,126 --> 00:32:01,796 The rights that I am fighting to protect are your rights, too. 599 00:32:01,838 --> 00:32:03,840 I can defend my own rights, Mr. Christie. 600 00:32:03,882 --> 00:32:05,050 Please... 601 00:32:05,091 --> 00:32:08,470 We'll replace Mr. Shelby and Mr. Clark with alternates. 602 00:32:08,470 --> 00:32:09,971 Your Honor. Gentlemen. 603 00:32:11,931 --> 00:32:14,059 All that Christie needs is one hold out. 604 00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:16,019 In the world of public relations, 605 00:32:16,061 --> 00:32:18,355 a hung jury is as good as an acquittal. 606 00:32:18,396 --> 00:32:21,024 If we can knock just one more juror off, 607 00:32:21,066 --> 00:32:24,027 we exhaust the jury pool, we get a mistrial. 608 00:32:24,069 --> 00:32:25,445 How do you propose we do that? 609 00:32:25,487 --> 00:32:29,032 I think we should find out everything we can about the other jurors. 610 00:32:32,035 --> 00:32:33,703 I'll talk to Briscoe and Curtis. 611 00:32:33,745 --> 00:32:37,624 Shady stuff. This fellow Christie, 612 00:32:37,665 --> 00:32:38,917 he's really gotten under your skin. 613 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:39,834 He's a fanatic. 614 00:32:39,876 --> 00:32:41,086 Because he believes what he's saying? 615 00:32:41,127 --> 00:32:45,548 When you first applied for a job here, we had an argument 616 00:32:45,590 --> 00:32:47,342 about some anti-war protesters. 617 00:32:47,384 --> 00:32:48,093 Oh, come on, Adam. 618 00:32:48,134 --> 00:32:50,679 They broke into a draft board 619 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,806 and poured blood over the records, 620 00:32:52,847 --> 00:32:55,058 and you defended them. 621 00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:59,729 You said a bad law sometimes demands an illegal act. 622 00:32:59,771 --> 00:33:02,482 Nobody got killed. 623 00:33:02,524 --> 00:33:05,527 It was a protest and they took their punishment. 624 00:33:11,408 --> 00:33:17,372 I know some of our ideas sound crazy, or extreme. 625 00:33:18,498 --> 00:33:20,500 I could talk to you about Ruby Ridge or Waco 626 00:33:20,542 --> 00:33:24,462 or I could tell you how I came to believe that our government, 627 00:33:24,504 --> 00:33:29,092 a government I was brought up to love, is a threat to our liberty. 628 00:33:30,135 --> 00:33:32,887 But none of that would explain what's happened, 629 00:33:32,929 --> 00:33:34,597 why we're on trial here. 630 00:33:35,849 --> 00:33:40,061 The prosecution says we robbed and murdered. 631 00:33:40,061 --> 00:33:42,564 And that's all this trial is about. 632 00:33:44,149 --> 00:33:47,110 But let me tell you how I see it. 633 00:33:49,863 --> 00:33:53,950 Let's say someone breaks into your house 634 00:33:54,993 --> 00:33:56,411 and they threaten you and your family... 635 00:33:56,411 --> 00:34:00,832 Your Honor, objection, the defendant is on the stand as a witness. 636 00:34:00,874 --> 00:34:02,584 This is summation. Your Honor, 637 00:34:02,584 --> 00:34:04,419 as the counsel for the defense, 638 00:34:04,461 --> 00:34:07,672 I am laying the groundwork for a line of questioning, 639 00:34:07,756 --> 00:34:11,009 a line of thought that goes to the heart of my testimony. 640 00:34:11,051 --> 00:34:13,011 I'll give you a little leeway, Mr. Christie. 641 00:34:13,094 --> 00:34:14,554 Thank you, Your Honor. 642 00:34:15,930 --> 00:34:18,641 So, if you killed someone 643 00:34:18,683 --> 00:34:21,519 who broke into your house and threatened your family, 644 00:34:21,561 --> 00:34:24,814 most of you would see that as an act of self-defense. 645 00:34:24,856 --> 00:34:27,609 Now, what if an enemy army occupies your town, 646 00:34:27,650 --> 00:34:30,528 and what if you and your neighbors decided to resist... 647 00:34:30,612 --> 00:34:31,655 Objection, Your Honor. 648 00:34:31,696 --> 00:34:32,697 Overruled. 649 00:34:32,739 --> 00:34:34,115 Get to the point, Mr. Christie. 650 00:34:34,115 --> 00:34:35,075 Okay. 651 00:34:35,116 --> 00:34:37,160 So, what if, as part of the resistance movement, 652 00:34:37,202 --> 00:34:40,830 you robbed somebody who was collecting taxes. 653 00:34:40,872 --> 00:34:43,124 Taxes that would be used to increase 654 00:34:43,166 --> 00:34:44,876 the enemy control of your town... 655 00:34:44,918 --> 00:34:45,794 Your Honor! 656 00:34:45,835 --> 00:34:47,837 New York Bets is a scam to collect taxes... 657 00:34:47,879 --> 00:34:48,880 Objection sustained. 658 00:34:48,922 --> 00:34:50,048 ...through a levy on gambling. 659 00:34:50,090 --> 00:34:52,675 Limit yourself to direct testimony, Mr. Christie. 660 00:34:52,717 --> 00:34:53,635 Your Honor... 661 00:34:53,677 --> 00:34:54,969 I am not going to allow it, Mr. Christie. 662 00:34:55,011 --> 00:34:56,888 And if I don't knuckle under, you'll drag me from court, too! 663 00:34:56,930 --> 00:34:58,181 Don't try my patience! 664 00:34:58,223 --> 00:35:00,517 And then who will be left to defend us? 665 00:35:06,773 --> 00:35:08,024 That's all. 666 00:35:12,904 --> 00:35:19,577 According to Mrs. Brant's testimony, the night before the robbery, 667 00:35:19,619 --> 00:35:25,000 you met with Matthew Brant, his son, Thomas Robbins, Lewis Cray, 668 00:35:25,041 --> 00:35:28,503 and half a dozen others. Is that true? 669 00:35:28,545 --> 00:35:31,548 Did you study the Bushell case in law school, Mr. McCoy? 670 00:35:31,589 --> 00:35:33,133 Please answer the question. 671 00:35:33,174 --> 00:35:35,093 1670. The case established 672 00:35:35,135 --> 00:35:36,177 the right for juries to nullify. 673 00:35:36,219 --> 00:35:37,679 Answer his question, Mr. Christie. 674 00:35:37,721 --> 00:35:39,180 I am trying, Your Honor. 675 00:35:39,222 --> 00:35:42,600 The right for juries to protect defendants by finding them not guilty, 676 00:35:42,642 --> 00:35:44,686 evidence of their guilt notwithstanding. 677 00:35:44,728 --> 00:35:47,897 A right that goes back in America to John Peter Zenger, 678 00:35:47,939 --> 00:35:50,900 and had been used by black juries to acquit black defendants 679 00:35:50,942 --> 00:35:52,360 when they had been tried unfairly. 680 00:35:52,402 --> 00:35:55,905 Mr. Christie, what did you discuss that night with your co-defendants? 681 00:35:55,947 --> 00:35:57,574 It is a right used in anti-war cases 682 00:35:57,615 --> 00:36:00,118 and was defended almost 25 years ago 683 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,369 in an article published... 684 00:36:01,369 --> 00:36:03,121 Objection. Non-responsive. 685 00:36:03,163 --> 00:36:06,583 Published by the NYU law school entitled, 686 00:36:06,624 --> 00:36:09,878 "Jury Nullification in the Criminal Justice System" 687 00:36:09,878 --> 00:36:11,087 by Jack McCoy. 688 00:36:11,129 --> 00:36:12,839 Sustained, Mr. Christie. 689 00:36:12,881 --> 00:36:14,257 You wrote this. 690 00:36:16,384 --> 00:36:19,804 In many ways, you and I are alike, Mr. McCoy. 691 00:36:19,846 --> 00:36:23,099 No, we're not. I don't rob armored cars. 692 00:36:24,100 --> 00:36:25,602 You were the third robber, weren't you? 693 00:36:26,853 --> 00:36:28,229 You killed Walter Wells. 694 00:36:36,029 --> 00:36:38,615 What's the matter, Mr. Christie? 695 00:36:39,991 --> 00:36:45,246 If you believe what you did was justified, why won't you answer? 696 00:36:50,210 --> 00:36:52,295 "No person shall be compelled in any criminal case 697 00:36:52,337 --> 00:36:54,589 "to be a witness against himself." 698 00:37:00,053 --> 00:37:02,180 No further questions. 699 00:37:02,263 --> 00:37:04,641 Mr. Christie, do you have any other witnesses 700 00:37:04,682 --> 00:37:05,892 or evidence to present? 701 00:37:05,934 --> 00:37:10,063 Since you've excluded all of my witnesses, no, Your Honor. 702 00:37:11,439 --> 00:37:16,736 The defense, the resistance to tyranny, rests. 703 00:37:23,410 --> 00:37:25,870 I think we've got what we need to bounce another juror. 704 00:37:25,954 --> 00:37:27,038 Howard Lamm. 705 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:28,331 The blonde guy with the glasses. 706 00:37:28,373 --> 00:37:31,835 Late '60s, at Harvard, he was one of the leaders of the SDS. 707 00:37:31,876 --> 00:37:32,877 A real firebrand. 708 00:37:32,919 --> 00:37:36,339 Implied prejudice against the government. 709 00:37:36,381 --> 00:37:40,093 Kick Lamm off the jury, you got your mistrial. 710 00:37:41,136 --> 00:37:42,887 Where'd you get this information? 711 00:37:42,929 --> 00:37:44,222 Police Red Squad records. 712 00:37:44,264 --> 00:37:45,640 The creeps who took our pictures 713 00:37:45,682 --> 00:37:48,226 during demonstrations in the '60s? 714 00:37:48,268 --> 00:37:51,646 These files were supposed to be destroyed years ago. 715 00:37:51,688 --> 00:37:54,357 Governments are like elephants. They never forget. 716 00:38:06,995 --> 00:38:08,371 We're not gonna do this. 717 00:38:12,125 --> 00:38:17,130 We're not gonna become the people Christie thinks we are. 718 00:38:29,100 --> 00:38:34,189 "Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered. 719 00:38:34,189 --> 00:38:38,943 "Yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, 720 00:38:38,985 --> 00:38:40,862 "the more glorious the triumph." 721 00:38:43,281 --> 00:38:45,784 Tom Paine wrote that in a pamphlet 722 00:38:45,825 --> 00:38:48,161 that helped rally Americans to the cause of liberty 723 00:38:48,203 --> 00:38:52,916 in those dark days of December 1776. 724 00:38:54,042 --> 00:38:56,336 We again face dark days. 725 00:38:57,504 --> 00:39:00,256 Our founding forefathers fashioned a government 726 00:39:00,298 --> 00:39:05,261 based on life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. 727 00:39:05,303 --> 00:39:11,768 Today, instead of life, we have a job, we have sometimes two jobs. 728 00:39:11,810 --> 00:39:16,272 Instead of liberty, we have crushing debt. And happiness? 729 00:39:19,818 --> 00:39:24,989 We work hard, husbands and wives, 10-12 hours a day. 730 00:39:25,031 --> 00:39:27,909 We work weekends, and at the end of the week we have less. 731 00:39:27,909 --> 00:39:33,957 We have less real income, less benefits, less time with our kids. 732 00:39:35,166 --> 00:39:38,795 The American dream used to be, 733 00:39:38,837 --> 00:39:41,798 each generation was better off than the previous one. 734 00:39:43,007 --> 00:39:45,760 Are you better off than your parents? 735 00:39:45,802 --> 00:39:49,180 Will your children be better off than you? 736 00:39:49,222 --> 00:39:53,518 We believe that our government has been sold to global corporations 737 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,939 that are sucking the blood and the life out of this country. 738 00:39:57,939 --> 00:40:00,775 It's all right there in the newspapers, what they're doing. 739 00:40:00,817 --> 00:40:04,988 NAFTA, illegal campaign contributions by foreign businessmen, 740 00:40:05,030 --> 00:40:07,240 the sale of foreign policy. 741 00:40:08,283 --> 00:40:09,951 These people don't care about us. 742 00:40:09,993 --> 00:40:11,161 They don't care about Americans. 743 00:40:11,202 --> 00:40:14,456 They care about their bottom line. 744 00:40:19,002 --> 00:40:24,883 We are not common criminals. We are... We are ordinary people like you, 745 00:40:24,924 --> 00:40:28,344 with jobs and mortgages, who are willing to lay it all on the line 746 00:40:28,386 --> 00:40:31,514 because we are afraid of losing our freedom. 747 00:40:31,556 --> 00:40:36,353 But today, you have a chance to tell the government what you think. 748 00:40:37,062 --> 00:40:38,897 Seize that opportunity. 749 00:40:38,938 --> 00:40:41,399 We, the defendants, are not the only ones on trial here. 750 00:40:41,441 --> 00:40:44,027 You are on trial here. 751 00:40:45,236 --> 00:40:48,406 The State tells you to follow its laws. 752 00:40:48,448 --> 00:40:52,452 But who lends the State its power? Who can take it back? 753 00:40:53,995 --> 00:40:58,208 The judge? Mr. McCoy? No. 754 00:40:58,249 --> 00:41:04,464 You do. You are the State. You have the power. 755 00:41:08,051 --> 00:41:10,553 Freedom starts with a no. 756 00:41:10,595 --> 00:41:15,016 Will you turn to the State and say no? 757 00:41:33,201 --> 00:41:35,161 Okay. Okay. 758 00:41:40,375 --> 00:41:44,379 This country began as an experiment in freedom. 759 00:41:49,509 --> 00:41:56,599 The foundation of that freedom is equality before the law. 760 00:41:58,143 --> 00:42:03,106 Everyone, whoever they are, whatever they may believe, 761 00:42:03,982 --> 00:42:06,109 must be equally accountable. 762 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:17,287 Mr. Christie hopes you will ignore the evidence and nullify. 763 00:42:17,329 --> 00:42:20,331 A power, he says, derives from a higher law. 764 00:42:20,415 --> 00:42:24,627 I agree that such a higher law exists. 765 00:42:24,669 --> 00:42:31,009 And each of you, as members of the jury, bound yourselves to it 766 00:42:31,092 --> 00:42:36,556 when you swore, on your conscience, before God and as a citizen, 767 00:42:36,598 --> 00:42:40,310 that you would decide this case on the facts. 768 00:42:40,351 --> 00:42:43,229 You are asked to judge one thing, 769 00:42:43,271 --> 00:42:47,192 were the defendants, whatever their reasons, whatever their beliefs, 770 00:42:47,275 --> 00:42:53,073 part of a criminal conspiracy to commit armed robbery 771 00:42:54,074 --> 00:42:55,492 and murder! 772 00:42:58,578 --> 00:43:01,331 These guys did a great job of memorization. 773 00:43:01,373 --> 00:43:02,791 Too bad they didn't learn from it. 774 00:43:02,832 --> 00:43:06,628 We all remember that phrase from the Declaration of Independence 775 00:43:06,670 --> 00:43:10,256 about life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, 776 00:43:10,298 --> 00:43:14,427 the unalienable rights of everyone. 777 00:43:16,679 --> 00:43:20,600 Notice that life comes first. 778 00:43:22,811 --> 00:43:25,146 You can forget everything else about this case, 779 00:43:25,188 --> 00:43:28,400 if you remember one thing, 780 00:43:28,441 --> 00:43:33,279 these defendants, these conspirators, targeted an ordinary citizen, 781 00:43:33,321 --> 00:43:40,161 someone just like yourselves, a guy with a job and in the private sector, 782 00:43:41,287 --> 00:43:45,041 with bills to pay and a family to take care of, 783 00:43:46,084 --> 00:43:47,210 and they took his life. 784 00:43:49,170 --> 00:43:51,715 They took his life! 785 00:43:54,092 --> 00:43:57,345 If it's okay for them to shoot him, 786 00:43:57,387 --> 00:43:59,431 it's okay for them to shoot anyone, 787 00:43:59,472 --> 00:44:02,142 including any one of you. 788 00:44:05,353 --> 00:44:07,647 Without the law there can be no freedom, 789 00:44:10,608 --> 00:44:13,570 and without justice there can be no law. 790 00:44:26,583 --> 00:44:29,711 Your Honor, we've been out nine days. 791 00:44:29,753 --> 00:44:34,090 We've had 40 ballots. We're unable to reach a verdict. 792 00:44:38,178 --> 00:44:41,681 Is there any chance you could agree if you had more time? 793 00:44:43,892 --> 00:44:45,185 No, Your Honor. 794 00:44:52,233 --> 00:44:53,568 All right. 795 00:44:53,610 --> 00:44:58,114 Ladies and gentlemen, I have no choice but to declare a mistrial. 796 00:44:58,156 --> 00:44:59,532 Yes! 797 00:45:00,700 --> 00:45:02,744 The jury is dismissed. 798 00:45:02,786 --> 00:45:06,748 You did it! See, see, see. 799 00:45:06,790 --> 00:45:09,125 Hey, man. All right. 800 00:45:13,338 --> 00:45:16,257 Admit it, McCoy. We won. 801 00:45:16,299 --> 00:45:20,679 You didn't win anything. The system you want to destroy won. 802 00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:23,139 See you back here in a couple of months. 803 00:45:23,181 --> 00:45:25,266 Enjoy your freedom while you have it. 804 00:45:30,647 --> 00:45:33,316 Mr. Christie, over here. 805 00:45:33,358 --> 00:45:37,320 If he only knew. You could've sunk this trial and you didn't. 806 00:45:37,362 --> 00:45:38,822 You played it straight, Jack. 807 00:45:38,863 --> 00:45:41,700 That rates as a moral victory. 808 00:45:41,741 --> 00:45:44,285 It could be a hollow one 809 00:45:44,327 --> 00:45:47,831 if those clowns could find even one person who'd acquit them. 810 00:45:47,872 --> 00:45:48,998 What does that tell you about this country? 811 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,835 We want to thank you all for being objective 812 00:45:51,876 --> 00:45:54,421 in covering this trial and being supportive... 64435

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