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There was just nothing
to explain it, nothing,
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it was just
very, very scary.
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Narrator: You are about
to see real people.
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This is not
normal.
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Narrator: Reliving horrifying
paranormal encounters
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for the first
time.
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(screaming)
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She said, you know, when I
die, I'm gonna haunt you.
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Narrator: When family
members pass away
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and return to haunt
the living.
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That's the first time I had
ever seen anything,
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and it is terrifying,
I'm sorry.
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♪
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I buried this for
nearly 30 years.
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Narrator: Be prepared
to be afraid.
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♪
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(typing)
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Paranormal Survivor two,
story number 17 take one.
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♪
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Narrator: Anita Spero
and her family moved
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into their new house
in Oswego 2006.
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Immediately her daughter
began making new friends.
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When we moved in there my
daughter started talking about a
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little boy named Billy,
and then my daughter
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was telling me one day,
"I'm talking to Billy,
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and he wants to know where
his mom and dad are
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and he keeps pointing at the
house across the street."
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Narrator: At first Anita
thought nothing
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of her daughter's
encounter.
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Oh thank you.
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So this little boy in
the neighbourhood.
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So with time I got to
know my neighbours
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and she told me this
story about Billy.
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!Billy was a little boy, actually
his parents lived across
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the street from us, and
Billy, all the kids
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in the area for years
would catch
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the bus outside our house,
even way back when.
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And he was hit
by the bus.
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Something to do with his grandma
I don't know the entire story.
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Anita: I said, "Do you
have a picture of him?"
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♪
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And then when my daughter came
home, shoe pointed to it,
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and said, "mom,
that's Billy."
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Oh yeah, he's always crossing
that street to school,
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he's always
out there.
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♪
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I don't understand,
how can this be?
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Narrator: If Anita had
trouble believing it,
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her doubts would
not last long.
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♪
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And I started seeing
Billy looking in our window.
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(creaking)
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I've seen little glimpses of
him, and it's quite scary.
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♪
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(creaking)
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I mean I wouldn't want to
be, and this gets scary,
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I wouldn't want to be
alone in a small room
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with him or
in a closet.
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♪
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♪
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Narrator: The nighbours
also reported
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seeing Billy around
Anita's home.
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We've had a couple people
come in and say straight out,
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"I just saw a little boy run
into your basement."
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(clap of thunder)
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!Narrator: Strange things started
to happen inside Anita's house.
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♪
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When we come in, um, the
cabinets in the kitchen,
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and we have kind of
a big kitchen,
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a lot of cabinets,
they're all open.
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♪
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And then by the time you sit
down to take your shoes off
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and go, "what's
going on?"
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You turn around and
they're shut, all of 'em,
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and you don't hear 'em,
that's the crazy part,
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you don't
hear 'em.
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Things were just getting
weird in our house.
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Narrator: Anita assumed
the ghost of Billy
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was behind the events
in the kitchen.
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♪
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But she
was wrong.
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♪
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Every time I would fall asleep
in my bed I thought
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I was waking up to some
weird nightmares,
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like the house
is on fire.
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(screaming)
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But, um, it felt like I was
being shaken awake,
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like shaken
awake.
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(screaming)
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I felt like I was having
the life choked out
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of me at that
point.
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(screaming)
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And I'd sit up and there's
nothing there,
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and I thought I must be dreaming
this, and this was happening
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for quite a
few weeks.
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Narrator: Anita endured the
terrifying night attacks
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for over two months until she
got some unexpected news.
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(phone ringing)
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Hello.
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I was sleeping and my husband
woke me up and said,
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"so and so's on the phone and,
uh, your mom died."
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And I'm like "oh my God,"
even though we hadn't talked
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in 8 years, you know it's
still kinda shocking.
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(crying)
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And I said, "well okay,
how did she die?"
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♪
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And I said, "was it
from the cigarette?"
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And the person actually told me,
"no, it was just a house fire."
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♪
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My mom was a drug addict
and I knew she fell asleep
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with a cigarette, and
I said, "okay,
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well when's the funeral
and everything?"
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And the person said, "well
it was 9 weeks ago."
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And I was like, "okay, so
you're just calling me now?"
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Thank you,
okay, oh God.
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Narrator: Anita's
relationship
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with her mother had
not been easy.
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She wasn't a real nice
person at least to me,
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I don't know how she was with
other people, but not to me.
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We had a bad falling out the
last time I talked to her
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and she said, "you know, when
I die I'm gonna haunt you."
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And she told me that, "I'm
gonna be around you."
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Narrator: To her horror,
Anita realized
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that the nighttime terrors she
was suffering had begun
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at exactly the same
time her mother died.
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!Anita: So I tried to sleep in my
room for a little while longer,
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but I just, I couldn't
do it anymore,
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and she's a very frightening
person, um, very frightening.
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♪
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I thought she was
gonna kill me.
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♪
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A spirits personality does
not improve with death,
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and if you were an
evil person in life,
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you got joy out of
victimizing people,
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you're going to try to do
the same thing after death
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and it brings some sort of sick
perverse satisfaction
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to that spirit.
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♪
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Narrator: But Anita would
soon find it would take
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a lot more than moving
to sleep on the couch
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to escape her
mothers' wrath.
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♪
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(sigh)
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The other day I was
putting my makeup on
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and, um, the lights
flicker on and off.
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(flickering)
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You can see
the shadow
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of something underneath our
door just standing there.
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(flickering)
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It feels like someone's
standing outside
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the bathroom door
holding the door shut,
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and that time I
did hear her,
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and I mean she cackles like a
witch, it's not like a human,
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and I don't know if they do that
purposely, but it's very scary.
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(cackling)
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(stove igniting)
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Narrator: The personal attacks
became even more dangerous.
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(stove igniting)
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Somebody was turning on the
stove random times of the day.
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(coughing)
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So you'd hear the tick, tick,
tick, and it would be on,
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and just either gas, you
could smell the gas.
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I think my worst
fear is that
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she's gonna set the
house on fire.
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My worst fear.
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(coughing)
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♪
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(fire crackling)
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(fire alarm beeping)
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♪
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♪
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(flickering)
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Narrator: Anita Spero had
been tormented by the spirit
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of her estranged mother, but
in a shocking escalation,
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the mother had started to
threaten Anita's life.
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(fire alarm beeping)
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The fires are random, and
it's not like in a fireplace,
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it will be the rug, the rug,
it will be on fire,
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there'll be a
flame there.
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Where it comes from,
I don't, I mean,
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that's scary, because why is it
there, how does it get there?
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None of us, there's no ignition
source on my carpeting,
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and it's very
scary.
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(fire alarm beeping)
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I know it's my
mom doing it.
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My grandma told me that
she used to start fires
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when she was younger,
you know, nothing major,
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but it's still being
a fire bug,
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and I think it's always
stuck with her.
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(fire alarm beeping)
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Her goal would be to
do something to me
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that is fire related because
that's how she died.
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She has a thing
with fire.
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(fire alarm beeping)
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Well, I was getting tired of
it, I couldn't do it anymore,
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I couldn't take it, I
didn't know what to do.
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♪
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Sorry.
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♪
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Narrator: Anita decided
to call in the help
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!of paranormal investigator Dale
Kaczmarek and his team.
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♪
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When I first met Anita, she
was not in the very best
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of emotional states, she
was very distraught,
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and she probably thought she
was going crazy for a bit.
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And that kind of really
drained upon her senses,
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so when she contacted me
she wanted some peace.
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♪
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This was by far one of the most
interesting and unique cases
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that we ever had a
chance to investigate.
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♪
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We were doing an
EVP session upstairs
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in Anita's master
bedroom,
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the EVP central Electronic
Voice Phenomenon.
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We were all sitting around the
bed, we had asked a question,
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"did you die in
a fire?"
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(moaning)
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♪
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And a few seconds later,
everybody in the room heard,
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what was best described as
a female cry or moan,
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it sounded like ahh,
ahh, sorta like that,
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it was very, very audible,
it was picked up
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on all the digital recorders and
all the cameras in the room.
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♪
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The follow up question
said, "Is that you?"
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And then another response of
that same cry, much lower,
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was then heard
as well.
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It was my mom, I mean it
could be no other voice.
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(crying)
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I mean so strong like she
was still alive,
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like it was very shocking,
very unnerving,
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and really scary,
it was like
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the answer I was waiting for,
but now that I have the answer,
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now I'm really scared,
really scared.
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♪
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Narrator: Hoping to
gather evidence of
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the spirits true intentions,
!Dale asked Anita to act as bait.
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Dale: During some of the EVP
!sessions we actually used Anita
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as a trigger object; a trigger
object is something
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that we use to illicit
a ghost response.
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Why are you
here?
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♪
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What do you want?
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Leave me alone.
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We put her in the room on the
bed and we were recording
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to see if something
was interacting
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with her while
she was upstairs.
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(screaming)
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♪
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♪
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!Narrator: Anita Spero had called
in paranormal investigators
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to help her get rid of her
mothers' evil spirit.
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We put her in the room to see
if something was interacting
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with her while
she was upstairs.
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And in fact we do have several
segments and clips
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where she actually heard
sounds in the room,
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of footsteps, noises and bumps
right outside the door,
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and we were all
downstairs at
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that time monitoring so
there was nobody around.
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(screaming)
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Shocked.
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Validated, but really shocked,
and if it's true that we're,
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in life, we're the
same way in death,
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you know, I'm in
real trouble.
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There was another camera
that was set up in one
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of the children's' rooms, this
camera was in the room,
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by itself, the door was
closed, nobody was
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in the room
at the time.
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Now, it's very common that
sometimes cameras on tripods
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can come loose, and cameras
might dip down a little bit
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when they come
loose.
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♪
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But then the camera
corrected itself back up,
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it went against gravity,
which to me
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is something a camera
does not do, so something
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was actually manipulating
the camera in that room.
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♪
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One of the most interesting
things, however,
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happened when we
were all downstairs.
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♪
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(footsteps running)
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Suddenly we heard
the sound
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of several people running
down the hallway.
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(footsteps running)
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and it was very
definite footsteps,
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patter of feet running
from the direction
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of the bathroom over our
head and disappeared.
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(cackling)
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The different pyro kinetic
activity that was seen with this
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by Anita and others in her
home, I would put my best
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and most likely, it was Anita's
mom that probably is creating
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that activity rather
than a poltergeist
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because of the way
Anita's mom died.
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♪
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We always try to give the client
some advice, or recommendations
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of how they can, you know,
alleviate the situation,
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one is to be very assertive
about yourself and say that this
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is my home, you don't belong
here, and to simply get out.
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♪
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Another thing I told her to
do was to, you know,
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you have to take over your
room, you have to sleep there
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no matter what
happens there,
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and not let anything drive
you out of your bedroom.
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Right now we're kind
of still working
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at me taking my control
back of my room,
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going up there and sleeping,
and not being afraid,
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I haven't quite gotten there
but I'm working on it.
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I mean he's very intelligent
about this stuff,
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I think any advice he gives
me, you know, is worth,
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you know, paying attention
to, it's just getting
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the courage right now
because she is scary.
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♪
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(cackling)
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And she did try it for a few
nights and then she said
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she couldn't take it, she
went back downstairs.
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I thought cleansing, spirit
walking, having priests over,
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anybody to come bless
the house, saging,
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I've thought of all that,
the problem is sometimes
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it doesn't make it go away,
it makes it worse.
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It's the fear because I am very
afraid of her so I don't know
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what to do, I really don't
know what I wanna do.
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!Narrator: Petrified of provoking
!her mother's spirit any further,
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Anita has not attempted
to cleanse her house.
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Anita continues
to live in fear
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of what her mother
might do to this day.
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♪
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Narrator: Not all
family phantoms
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are psychotic ghosts
intent on causing harm
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to their living
offspring.
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Sometimes the spirit of
dead relatives might
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just not be ready to let go
and move on to the afterlife
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but that can bring
it's own problems.
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♪
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(typing)
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Lynn's Lake House story
number 27 take 1.
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♪
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(projector ticking)
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!Lynn: The lake house has been in
our family since about 1916.
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It belonged to my
two godmothers,
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aunt Helen and
aunt Sada.
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The lake house is in La
Salle, Michigan on Lake Eerie.
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If you walk it it's like going
back to the turn of the century.
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♪
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Everything is exactly
the same.
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There's been a few
updates in the kitchen
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but other than that
including the furniture,
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the things that are in
the medicine cabinets,
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the things that are in the
cabinets, the silverware,
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the dishes, everything is from
back then, from the 1920's.
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So when you
go there--
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--When, I mean, people are
in awe when they walk in.
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♪
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Aunt Helen was very stringent,
she didn't like children.
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Growing up like my sister
and I were not aloud
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to go into the living room,
anywhere into the cottage.
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We were only allowed to
go into the kitchen.
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She was just--
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--Kinda very stern.
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I think she didn't like
kids, Aunt Helen,
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because she
didn't have any
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and I think when you
don't have children
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you just don't have much
tolerance for them.
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Aunt Helen passed away, I
think I was 17 at the time
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and even at 17 I'd never
been in the house.
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(waves splashing)
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When they passed away they
!left it to my mother and father.
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♪
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When we first started going
into the lake house,
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it's a funny feeling, I don't
know how to explain it.
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♪
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It's a real heavy,
odd feeling.
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You can just like
feel things around you.
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And its just a creepy feeling
that you know as soon
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!as you walk in, it's almost like
you're not wanted there.
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It's almost like, "Go
away, leave us alone."
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Narrator: Despite her
reservations,
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Lynn tried to enjoy life
in the lake house.
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♪
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Lynn: I spent the night, now
this was in the early 80's
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at the lake house.
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The yellow room has got
a door next to the bed
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that goes up
into the attic
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and there's no windows
in the attic.
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♪
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(door knob turning fast)
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The entire night it started and
the door was just shaking
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and then it would get
harder and harder.
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(door creaking)
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♪
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♪
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Narrator: Lynn Bringman
had strange feelings
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!about the old lake house she had
inherited from her Aunt Helen.
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This was the first time
she had stayed over night.
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Lynn: The entire night the
door was just shaking.
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I mean I'm not kidding
you, I was terrified!
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All night long it would
get loud then go--
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(stammering).
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Softer. I would think, "Oh it
stopped, okay it stopped."
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And then it would
start again.
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(door knob rattling)
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(door creaking)
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I was like a little kid
hiding under the blankets
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and that's exactly
what I was doing.
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♪
I was up all night with this big
light on and my head covered.
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♪
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Oh it was
horrible.
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That's the first time that
there was solid proof
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that something was
not quite right.
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♪
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I didn't sleep there
again for 30 years.
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♪
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(waves crashing)
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Narrator: Lynn didn't stay
away completely.
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She often returned for day
visits with the family.
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Ready or not
here I come!
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Lynn: My nephews were small
and I was playing upstairs,
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this was soon after that,
umm hide and seek upstairs.
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♪
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My mom was downstairs and she
was saying, "Come on Lynn,
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come on down here, we
want to go for dinner."
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And I said, "As soon as I find
the boys, I will be down."
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Everyone was downstairs and
my aunt was looking for us
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and then she heard a voice
uhh, call out to her.
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Ghost: Lynn.
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Lynn: So I'm in the blue
room looking for them
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and I heard my name
called like in a whisper
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but loud enough
for me to hear.
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It was like,
"Lynn, Lynn."
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So I thought it was
my oldest nephew Brad
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calling me to
let me know.
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I thought, oh he heard
my mom and he's trying
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to speed it up so
I find him.
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♪
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So I walked
into the room.
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Ghost: Lynn, Lynn.
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And it was that heavy
horrible feeling again.
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♪
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You can
feel it. You can feel that feeling of
just get the hell outta here.
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And I was actually frozen, I
was so afraid, I was terrified.
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(stammers)
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Even thinking that my
nephews were in that room,
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I backed out
and ran.
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I ran, I ran down
the steps.
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I was terrified.
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I mean, taking
a couple steps
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at a time thinking I'm
leaving my nephews up there.
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00:29:23,114 --> 00:29:26,529
(quick footsteps)
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00:29:26,529 --> 00:29:29,406
Come to find out as soon
as I got down there,
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nobody was up there with
me I was by myself.
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She found us down there
and so nobody was upstairs.
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My nephews were hiding
behind a door downstairs.
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♪
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That was my Aunt
Helen's room.
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There was no
question in my mind.
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I mean, I knew it was
Aunt Helen and Aunt Sada.
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And I was the only, even though
I was 25, 26 years old,
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I knew I was still
young enough
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that they did not
want me there.
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♪
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Narrator: Now grown up, it
was Lynn's nephews turn
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to experience first hand the
weird activity in the house.
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It wasn't till later when I had
my first experience I was like,
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00:30:13,364 --> 00:30:16,156
"Okay, maybe it's just
not crazy Aunt Lynn
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00:30:16,156 --> 00:30:18,989
telling ghost stories or
my mom telling stories.
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I mean, it's,
you know,
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there's some credibility
to these claims."
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♪
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The first experience I had
was roughly ten years ago.
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I can remember like it was
yesterday, I'll never forget it.
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(fan clanking)
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I was in the twin bedroom
and I was asleep
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and all of sudden the
fan next to me came on.
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(fan clanking)
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It just came on in the
middle of the night
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and it's broken so it started
clanking, and it woke me up.
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I was like,
"Oh my god."
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00:31:04,322 --> 00:31:08,364
At first it shocks you cause
it's so loud but then I looked
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to see it's the
type of fan,
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00:31:10,989 --> 00:31:13,655
it's old so it's not
just a push button.
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So, I investigated, I tried to
figure out if it's something
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00:31:16,529 --> 00:31:20,529
I could've done or if there
was a plausible explanation.
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00:31:21,197 --> 00:31:22,529
It's a matter of
deduction like,
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00:31:22,529 --> 00:31:24,239
so could I have accidentally
turned it on?
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00:31:24,239 --> 00:31:27,572
No, I would have to reach around
the opposite side of the fan.
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00:31:27,572 --> 00:31:30,697
Could it have come on by
itself, is it a short?
486
00:31:30,697 --> 00:31:33,281
Well, no it's never
come on before.
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♪
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I even talked to some
people about it
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00:31:42,197 --> 00:31:46,529
to make sure I wasn't just crazy
or, you know, making up stuff.
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00:31:46,529 --> 00:31:47,947
Nobody else could figure
out anything else.
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00:31:47,947 --> 00:31:51,114
We couldn't accidentally get the
fan to turn on by hitting it.
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00:31:51,114 --> 00:31:53,947
The next day we tried
anything, I mean, shaking it.
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00:31:53,947 --> 00:31:55,822
Nothing could get
it to turn on.
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00:31:55,822 --> 00:31:57,864
This experience
frightened me It was,
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00:31:57,864 --> 00:32:00,322
it sent shivers
down my spine.
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00:32:00,322 --> 00:32:00,947
I just had--
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00:32:00,947 --> 00:32:04,114
--There's something going on
here beyond just uhh,
498
00:32:04,114 --> 00:32:05,114
just an
old house.
499
00:32:05,114 --> 00:32:06,947
Spirits have an electrical
energy of their own
500
00:32:06,947 --> 00:32:10,322
and when their manifesting or
trying to communicate with you
501
00:32:10,322 --> 00:32:13,739
that energy can interfere with
these electronic devices
502
00:32:13,739 --> 00:32:18,281
and even turn them on when
they're not plugged in.
503
00:32:18,281 --> 00:32:20,072
♪
504
00:32:20,072 --> 00:32:21,947
Brett:The amount of
activity has escalated
505
00:32:21,947 --> 00:32:26,529
since my first experience,
basically the last ten years,
506
00:32:26,529 --> 00:32:27,489
it's gotten more
intense.
507
00:32:27,489 --> 00:32:31,156
Everybody who goes there has
an experience at some point.
508
00:32:31,156 --> 00:32:34,529
Narrator: In 2013 Lynn decided
to confront her fears
509
00:32:34,529 --> 00:32:37,529
and returned to
the lake house.
510
00:32:37,529 --> 00:32:37,697
♪
511
00:32:37,697 --> 00:32:41,822
After 30 years I decided now
come on, I'm going there,
512
00:32:41,822 --> 00:32:44,989
I'm going to clean it, I'm
not gonna be afraid.
513
00:32:44,989 --> 00:32:47,529
It's been 30 years,
this is ridiculous.
514
00:32:47,529 --> 00:32:50,655
So, I'm gonna go there and we're
gonna spend the night,
515
00:32:50,655 --> 00:32:52,655
my husband and I
and we're going to,
516
00:32:52,655 --> 00:32:56,697
you know, everything's
gonna be fine.
517
00:32:56,697 --> 00:32:59,197
(vacuum humming)
518
00:32:59,197 --> 00:33:01,697
So, I'm upstairs
vacuuming.
519
00:33:01,697 --> 00:33:05,864
(vacuum stalling)
520
00:33:05,864 --> 00:33:07,156
I heard this
horrible noise
521
00:33:07,156 --> 00:33:12,489
and I was like, "Oh no, the
vacuum cleaner just broke."
522
00:33:13,322 --> 00:33:17,530
So I shut it off and the
noise is still going on.
523
00:33:17,530 --> 00:33:26,529
(vacuum stalling)
524
00:33:26,529 --> 00:33:29,239
So, I followed
the noise.
525
00:33:29,239 --> 00:33:39,239
♪
526
00:33:40,489 --> 00:33:49,697
♪
527
00:33:49,697 --> 00:33:51,697
Narrator: After 30 years
of staying away from
528
00:33:51,697 --> 00:33:54,530
the old house she had
inherited Lynn Bringman
529
00:33:54,530 --> 00:33:57,529
had finally returned
but the strange events
530
00:33:57,529 --> 00:34:01,448
that kept her away
were still occurring.
531
00:34:01,448 --> 00:34:02,529
(rattling)
532
00:34:02,529 --> 00:34:04,739
Lynn: And in the back
of the pink bedroom
533
00:34:04,739 --> 00:34:07,529
there was a metal fan and
that had turned on.
534
00:34:07,529 --> 00:34:10,989
And it was like hitting
the sides, which is,
535
00:34:10,989 --> 00:34:14,529
it's a metal fan so it
was hitting the metal.
536
00:34:14,529 --> 00:34:18,530
(rattling)
537
00:34:18,530 --> 00:34:22,406
(thunder crashing)
538
00:34:22,406 --> 00:34:25,031
(screaming)
539
00:34:25,031 --> 00:34:26,947
And a storm
brews
540
00:34:26,947 --> 00:34:30,529
and the electricity
blows, no electricity.
541
00:34:30,529 --> 00:34:31,529
I'm like, "Oh!"
542
00:34:31,529 --> 00:34:34,448
It's pitch black.
543
00:34:34,448 --> 00:34:40,529
(thunder rumbling)
544
00:34:40,529 --> 00:34:45,697
(door creaking)
545
00:34:45,697 --> 00:34:48,947
I'm like, "This
is horrid."
546
00:34:48,947 --> 00:34:50,697
♪
547
00:34:50,697 --> 00:34:55,529
(door creaking)
548
00:34:55,529 --> 00:34:57,489
Narrator: Unable to
continue her work,
549
00:34:57,489 --> 00:35:01,322
Lynn and her husband
decided to go to bed.
550
00:35:01,322 --> 00:35:03,364
So, I've got this one
little flashlight
551
00:35:03,364 --> 00:35:05,989
and I'm not going from
point A to point B
552
00:35:05,989 --> 00:35:08,489
without this
flashlight.
553
00:35:08,489 --> 00:35:09,697
♪
554
00:35:09,697 --> 00:35:14,406
So I go to bed and I put the
flashlight on the nightstand.
555
00:35:14,406 --> 00:35:20,697
And I tossed and turned and
it was okay and I fell asleep.
556
00:35:20,697 --> 00:35:23,529
Then I woke up in the
middle of the night
557
00:35:23,529 --> 00:35:26,197
and I had to go to
the bathroom.
558
00:35:26,197 --> 00:35:27,072
♪
559
00:35:27,072 --> 00:35:29,697
I went, I reached
for the flashlight
560
00:35:29,697 --> 00:35:33,529
and I couldn't find
the flashlight.
561
00:35:33,529 --> 00:35:37,529
The flashlight is no
longer on the nightstand.
562
00:35:37,529 --> 00:35:43,822
♪
563
00:35:43,822 --> 00:35:45,529
The flashlight is
now on a table
564
00:35:45,529 --> 00:35:48,655
in front of the fireplace
in the bedroom.
565
00:35:48,655 --> 00:35:49,655
♪
566
00:35:49,655 --> 00:35:53,322
I would never in a million
years gone from there
567
00:35:53,322 --> 00:35:56,156
to here without
a flashlight.
568
00:35:56,156 --> 00:35:56,739
(stammers)
569
00:35:56,739 --> 00:35:58,114
I wouldn't have
done it.
570
00:35:58,114 --> 00:36:00,197
Some spirits may
be being playful
571
00:36:00,197 --> 00:36:03,239
and hide objects
to confuse you.
572
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,529
They may be doing it
in a nasty way
573
00:36:05,529 --> 00:36:08,697
to make your life
more miserable.
574
00:36:08,697 --> 00:36:13,364
The door to the
hallway was open.
575
00:36:13,364 --> 00:36:17,864
♪
576
00:36:17,864 --> 00:36:20,156
(screaming)
577
00:36:20,156 --> 00:36:24,529
But in the middle of the
pitch black is a darker
578
00:36:24,529 --> 00:36:27,739
than the dark
figure.
579
00:36:27,739 --> 00:36:30,697
And it's kind of, not glowing
but kind of moving,
580
00:36:30,697 --> 00:36:32,739
there's movement
to it.
581
00:36:32,739 --> 00:36:35,529
(screaming)
582
00:36:35,529 --> 00:36:39,489
It's hard to describe because
the place is pitch, pitch black!
583
00:36:39,489 --> 00:36:45,780
And it's even darker in
the middle of that movement.
584
00:36:45,780 --> 00:36:50,822
I mean it was just,
it was horrible.
585
00:36:50,822 --> 00:36:52,529
There was no question
in my mind.
586
00:36:52,529 --> 00:36:56,529
No question that it was
my two godmothers,
587
00:36:56,529 --> 00:36:58,905
Aunt Sada,
Aunt Helen.
588
00:36:58,905 --> 00:37:03,114
♪
589
00:37:03,114 --> 00:37:06,406
Well, that's the first time
I actually, you know,
590
00:37:06,406 --> 00:37:10,697
I'd smelled things, I had felt
things, I had heard things.
591
00:37:10,697 --> 00:37:17,529
This is the first
time I had--
592
00:37:17,529 --> 00:37:21,864
--It is, that's the first
time I'd ever seen anything
593
00:37:21,864 --> 00:37:26,822
and it is terrifying,
I'm sorry.
594
00:37:26,822 --> 00:37:29,448
It's terrifying.
595
00:37:31,529 --> 00:37:41,529
♪
596
00:37:41,529 --> 00:37:44,031
After I saw that figure
I was thinking,
597
00:37:44,031 --> 00:37:45,529
"Get out of
this house."
598
00:37:45,529 --> 00:37:49,114
I wasn't thinking anything
else after the 30 years
599
00:37:49,114 --> 00:37:52,529
and all that I thought, "I'm
doing it, I'm doing it,
600
00:37:52,529 --> 00:37:54,114
I'm doing it and
all this happened.
601
00:37:54,114 --> 00:37:56,989
I thought, the only thing I
could think of was,
602
00:37:56,989 --> 00:37:58,031
"Get out of
this house."
603
00:37:58,031 --> 00:38:00,655
There was nothing else
crossing my mind.
604
00:38:00,655 --> 00:38:04,406
Shadow figures are considered
a more negative type of entity
605
00:38:04,406 --> 00:38:06,530
and when you
see one it probably
606
00:38:06,530 --> 00:38:10,529
has some sort of
negative connotation.
607
00:38:10,529 --> 00:38:14,529
Something bad might
be about to happen.
608
00:38:14,529 --> 00:38:18,655
♪
609
00:38:18,655 --> 00:38:21,197
Narrator: Terrified of her
experiences and dreading
610
00:38:21,197 --> 00:38:26,239
what might happen next Lynn
decided to seek help.
611
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,529
Lynn: We decided to bring
in a paranormal team
612
00:38:28,529 --> 00:38:33,780
just to see for sure
because everybody felt
613
00:38:33,780 --> 00:38:37,780
like this overwhelming
feeling of--
614
00:38:37,780 --> 00:38:40,822
--Now I personally
felt like dread,
615
00:38:40,822 --> 00:38:43,530
you know, just
being in there.
616
00:38:43,530 --> 00:38:45,529
We wanted
confirmation.
617
00:38:45,529 --> 00:38:47,864
We wanted to know what
was in the house
618
00:38:47,864 --> 00:38:50,281
or who was in
the house.
619
00:38:50,281 --> 00:38:52,780
Our team's been
around since 2007.
620
00:38:52,780 --> 00:38:56,529
We've worked on well
over 400 cases to date.
621
00:38:56,529 --> 00:38:58,905
The first time we pulled
up to this property
622
00:38:58,905 --> 00:39:02,529
it looked like an old
creepy lake house.
623
00:39:02,529 --> 00:39:06,156
You kinda got the
chills seeing it.
624
00:39:06,156 --> 00:39:11,529
♪
625
00:39:11,529 --> 00:39:14,448
So when we walked into
this home you could feel
626
00:39:14,448 --> 00:39:15,989
that you weren't
wanted there.
627
00:39:15,989 --> 00:39:17,613
Like there was a
sort of energy
628
00:39:17,613 --> 00:39:19,529
that was like trying
to get you out.
629
00:39:19,529 --> 00:39:22,031
When we did enter the house
we did feel uncomfortable.
630
00:39:22,031 --> 00:39:26,613
Now we understand why Lynn was
having that same experience.
631
00:39:26,613 --> 00:39:31,822
♪
632
00:39:31,822 --> 00:39:34,114
When you feel that sort
of energy, you kind of
633
00:39:34,114 --> 00:39:38,947
have to beware cause you don't
know what you're stepping into.
634
00:39:38,947 --> 00:39:43,822
♪
635
00:39:43,822 --> 00:39:45,529
When we first began
the investigation,
636
00:39:45,529 --> 00:39:47,281
we started in the
master bedroom.
637
00:39:47,281 --> 00:39:50,197
I set up three pieces of the
equipment on the floor,
638
00:39:50,197 --> 00:39:53,239
I had the EMF detector,
I have a E-pod
639
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,364
and I had a recorder
sitting on the floor.
640
00:39:55,364 --> 00:39:59,529
So I was trying to draw that
energy to those devices.
641
00:39:59,529 --> 00:40:03,072
♪
642
00:40:03,072 --> 00:40:03,780
I was walking
around
643
00:40:03,780 --> 00:40:06,905
and I actually felt
something brush up.
644
00:40:06,905 --> 00:40:14,989
♪
645
00:40:16,197 --> 00:40:25,529
♪
646
00:40:25,529 --> 00:40:26,655
Narrator: Lynn Bringman
had brought
647
00:40:26,655 --> 00:40:28,529
in paranormal investigators
to probe into
648
00:40:28,529 --> 00:40:33,322
!who was haunting their families
old lake house.
649
00:40:33,322 --> 00:40:34,364
Karlo:I was walking
around
650
00:40:34,364 --> 00:40:38,947
and I actually felt
something brush up.
651
00:40:38,947 --> 00:40:44,529
It was like this cold feeling
up against my elbow.
652
00:40:44,529 --> 00:40:47,031
And then it
moved away.
653
00:40:47,031 --> 00:40:50,613
♪
654
00:40:50,613 --> 00:40:53,281
And right after that is when
we actually heard
655
00:40:53,281 --> 00:40:56,031
the humming out
in the hallway.
656
00:40:56,031 --> 00:40:58,529
(woman humming)
657
00:40:58,529 --> 00:41:01,364
I actually heard a
woman humming
658
00:41:01,364 --> 00:41:03,239
almost like she
was cleaning.
659
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,489
Like humming and
singing in a way.
660
00:41:06,489 --> 00:41:11,822
(woman humming)
661
00:41:11,822 --> 00:41:15,281
Umm at that moment I was
actually holding a camcorder
662
00:41:15,281 --> 00:41:19,156
and I heard some scuffles
straight ahead of me.
663
00:41:19,156 --> 00:41:21,406
♪
664
00:41:21,406 --> 00:41:26,364
(slow heartbeat)
665
00:41:26,364 --> 00:41:28,364
I panned up and I
actually caught
666
00:41:28,364 --> 00:41:31,780
a shadow man stepping
out of the bathroom.
667
00:41:31,780 --> 00:41:35,197
♪
668
00:41:35,197 --> 00:41:39,529
It looked at me and stepped
back into the bathroom.
669
00:41:39,529 --> 00:41:43,322
♪
670
00:41:43,322 --> 00:41:46,031
I was like, "Holy
(bleep), Holy (bleep)!"
671
00:41:46,031 --> 00:41:50,905
I was freaking out, I mean, I
wasn't expecting it, you know?
672
00:41:50,905 --> 00:41:52,989
This thing just steps
out the bathroom
673
00:41:52,989 --> 00:41:54,780
and there it is,
you know?
674
00:41:54,780 --> 00:41:59,322
Just dark mass, it's darker than
dark, it has no facial features.
675
00:41:59,322 --> 00:42:02,364
It's just a
black mass.
676
00:42:02,364 --> 00:42:04,529
♪
677
00:42:04,529 --> 00:42:06,529
When you have that sort
of energy, you have
678
00:42:06,529 --> 00:42:10,072
to watch yourself because you
don't know what could happen.
679
00:42:10,072 --> 00:42:12,905
During my initial talk with
Brett he had mentioned
680
00:42:12,905 --> 00:42:15,572
that Aunt Helen really didn't
like people coming
681
00:42:15,572 --> 00:42:19,156
into her home, uhh
including family members.
682
00:42:19,156 --> 00:42:23,156
So, with us coming in there
that presence was angry
683
00:42:23,156 --> 00:42:26,031
that we're actually
intruding on their property.
684
00:42:26,031 --> 00:42:28,031
Some spirits are
extremely territorial
685
00:42:28,031 --> 00:42:29,655
because even though
they're dead,
686
00:42:29,655 --> 00:42:31,864
they consider that
location theirs.
687
00:42:31,864 --> 00:42:36,739
They lived there, they
own it, you're the intruder.
688
00:42:36,739 --> 00:42:42,780
♪
689
00:42:42,780 --> 00:42:45,864
Karlo: When we caught the
!humming upstairs we went to Lynn
690
00:42:45,864 --> 00:42:47,739
and actually played
that evidence for her
691
00:42:47,739 --> 00:42:50,072
and she had mentioned
that Aunt Helen
692
00:42:50,072 --> 00:42:54,529
would always hum and
clean up in that area.
693
00:42:54,529 --> 00:43:04,322
(woman humming)
694
00:43:04,322 --> 00:43:06,905
After we finished up the
investigation upstairs,
695
00:43:06,905 --> 00:43:08,364
we decided to
go downstairs
696
00:43:08,364 --> 00:43:11,156
and see if we could collect
anymore evidence.
697
00:43:11,156 --> 00:43:13,197
(deep growl)
698
00:43:13,197 --> 00:43:17,572
And we seen what appeared to be
something moving on the porch
699
00:43:17,572 --> 00:43:21,905
and one of the investigators
took a picture.
700
00:43:21,905 --> 00:43:23,905
♪
701
00:43:23,905 --> 00:43:26,864
We actually captured what
appeared a woman standing
702
00:43:26,864 --> 00:43:31,156
on the outside of
the porch area.
703
00:43:33,529 --> 00:43:36,739
To us we believe
it was Aunt Helen.
704
00:43:36,739 --> 00:43:39,989
♪
705
00:43:39,989 --> 00:43:43,780
I think Aunt Helen doesn't want,
or makes everybody uncomfortable
706
00:43:43,780 --> 00:43:46,406
there because
it's her place.
707
00:43:46,406 --> 00:43:47,613
It was her
place for--
708
00:43:47,613 --> 00:43:51,905
--60 years and she doesn't
wanna share it with anybody.
709
00:43:51,905 --> 00:43:54,489
She didn't really
share her things.
710
00:43:54,489 --> 00:43:55,780
♪
711
00:43:55,780 --> 00:43:57,529
When the spirit
you're dealing with
712
00:43:57,529 --> 00:44:00,572
is a deceased relative
particularly one you
713
00:44:00,572 --> 00:44:02,406
did not get along
well with,
714
00:44:02,406 --> 00:44:05,322
that negative entity
may still not like you
715
00:44:05,322 --> 00:44:08,529
and want to continue to
cause you trouble.
716
00:44:08,529 --> 00:44:11,530
So this an extremely
difficult situation.
717
00:44:11,530 --> 00:44:14,947
I believe Aunt Helen is actually
holding onto this home
718
00:44:14,947 --> 00:44:16,947
because she was very
possessive of it
719
00:44:16,947 --> 00:44:20,529
and she was very
mean in life,
720
00:44:20,529 --> 00:44:23,655
she's gonna carry that
in the afterlife.
721
00:44:23,655 --> 00:44:24,156
♪
722
00:44:24,156 --> 00:44:26,822
When I sent the evidence to
Brett, he was shocked umm,
723
00:44:26,822 --> 00:44:30,530
to actually see what we
captured, you know, the video,
724
00:44:30,530 --> 00:44:32,947
the picture, all the
EVP's we caught.
725
00:44:32,947 --> 00:44:35,780
You know, that validated
his experiences
726
00:44:35,780 --> 00:44:37,655
of what's happening
there.
727
00:44:37,655 --> 00:44:40,072
They confirmed it, they
confirmed who we thought
728
00:44:40,072 --> 00:44:41,529
and they gave us
confirmation
729
00:44:41,529 --> 00:44:44,989
that there's something
definitely going on.
730
00:44:44,989 --> 00:44:48,281
The option to cleanse
the place was given to us.
731
00:44:48,281 --> 00:44:51,529
We decided
not to do it.
732
00:44:51,529 --> 00:44:52,530
It's also family
you know?
733
00:44:52,530 --> 00:44:56,989
As irritating they it can be
and as scary as they can be.
734
00:44:56,989 --> 00:44:58,529
It's still--
735
00:44:58,529 --> 00:45:00,864
Having family around
is also kind of,
736
00:45:00,864 --> 00:45:02,989
it's mixed feelings.
737
00:45:02,989 --> 00:45:07,364
A lot of it's scary experiences
but also a lot of--
738
00:45:07,364 --> 00:45:10,989
Stuff that you're
okay with too.
739
00:45:10,989 --> 00:45:12,448
♪
740
00:45:12,448 --> 00:45:13,989
Karlo: And for
them to know
741
00:45:13,989 --> 00:45:16,072
that it could possibly
be Aunt Helen,
742
00:45:16,072 --> 00:45:19,529
maybe they'll feel more
comfortable going there.
743
00:45:19,529 --> 00:45:21,780
You may be reluctant to
get rid of the spirit
744
00:45:21,780 --> 00:45:25,114
of a former family member
because family's are supposed
745
00:45:25,114 --> 00:45:26,281
to take care of
one another.
746
00:45:26,281 --> 00:45:29,655
And you might feel a lot of
guilt when you are trying
747
00:45:29,655 --> 00:45:32,448
to rid an entity
from your house
748
00:45:32,448 --> 00:45:34,822
of someone you maybe
grew up with.
749
00:45:34,822 --> 00:45:37,529
Everybody who goes there has
an experience at some point
750
00:45:37,529 --> 00:45:41,448
and if it does get worse, maybe
we'll have the house cleansed.
751
00:45:41,448 --> 00:45:44,529
And certainly,
the intensity.
752
00:45:44,529 --> 00:45:47,448
I mean, the shadow
figures,
753
00:45:47,448 --> 00:45:50,947
the voices coming in your
head saying, "Get out!"
754
00:45:50,947 --> 00:45:53,364
I mean, those are pretty
intense experiences
755
00:45:53,364 --> 00:46:00,031
and if they keep up she
might have to get the boot.
756
00:46:00,572 --> 00:46:04,281
Narrator: For now, the lake
house remains in the family.
757
00:46:04,281 --> 00:46:06,031
But Lynn and Brett
spend as little time
758
00:46:06,031 --> 00:46:11,739
there as possible fearing what
Aunt Helen might do next.
759
00:46:11,739 --> 00:46:21,739
♪
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