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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,185 --> 00:00:02,561 There was just nothing to explain it, 2 00:00:02,561 --> 00:00:04,603 nothing it was just very, very scary. 3 00:00:04,603 --> 00:00:07,358 Narrator: You are about to see real people-- 4 00:00:07,358 --> 00:00:08,733 This is not normal. 5 00:00:09,067 --> 00:00:13,612 Reliving horrifying paranormal encounters for the first time. 6 00:00:13,612 --> 00:00:14,739 (screams) This place was really, really haunted 7 00:00:14,739 --> 00:00:17,616 and I don't think I've ever seen my dad so scared. 8 00:00:17,616 --> 00:00:20,412 When evil spirits target children-- 9 00:00:20,412 --> 00:00:24,666 It was definitely the scariest night of my life. 10 00:00:25,624 --> 00:00:29,421 I buried this for nearly 30 years. 11 00:00:29,671 --> 00:00:32,508 Be prepared to be afraid. 12 00:00:32,508 --> 00:00:40,682 13 00:00:40,682 --> 00:00:45,645 (typing) 14 00:00:45,728 --> 00:00:55,738 15 00:00:55,738 --> 00:01:05,748 16 00:01:05,832 --> 00:01:07,626 Mark: I was 13. 17 00:01:07,626 --> 00:01:09,085 I was having some troubles in school, 18 00:01:09,085 --> 00:01:14,466 some family issues and my parents decided that I should 19 00:01:14,466 --> 00:01:18,677 probably move to another place to maybe get a fresh start and 20 00:01:18,677 --> 00:01:21,806 that way I could work harder at school and pay more attention 21 00:01:21,806 --> 00:01:25,561 to things that were important to my future. 22 00:01:25,561 --> 00:01:29,565 23 00:01:29,565 --> 00:01:31,650 Narrator: Mark moved in with his aunt 24 00:01:31,650 --> 00:01:34,111 and her baby daughter, Megan. 25 00:01:34,777 --> 00:01:39,741 It was a move that would change his life forever. 26 00:01:39,741 --> 00:01:45,122 It's encompassed my whole life for a very long time-- 27 00:01:45,122 --> 00:01:48,707 --almost 23 years in some way shape or form 28 00:01:48,707 --> 00:01:52,711 and it's shown me that there are things out there that me 29 00:01:52,711 --> 00:02:02,721 or you or anybody cannot account for; these things are real. 30 00:02:03,765 --> 00:02:05,767 From the very beginning of his stay, 31 00:02:05,767 --> 00:02:09,230 Mark got a bad feeling about the house. 32 00:02:10,063 --> 00:02:12,149 Mark: It was a ranch-style home, 33 00:02:12,149 --> 00:02:16,570 it was dated back to the late-1800s. 34 00:02:16,570 --> 00:02:22,909 It used to have a basement, one of the walls had actually 35 00:02:22,909 --> 00:02:28,624 been boarded up to what I believe was a root cellar. 36 00:02:29,999 --> 00:02:34,753 So just my first impression moving into the home was that 37 00:02:34,753 --> 00:02:38,425 this is very old and this place is kinda weird, 38 00:02:38,425 --> 00:02:41,010 the way it's situated on the street. 39 00:02:41,010 --> 00:02:42,761 40 00:02:42,761 --> 00:02:47,643 200 feet from the house next to it which was a very large, 41 00:02:47,643 --> 00:02:50,729 old home - Victorian style. 42 00:02:50,729 --> 00:02:58,777 43 00:02:58,777 --> 00:03:00,739 Narrator: Mark's uneasiness increased further 44 00:03:00,739 --> 00:03:04,201 when strange things started to happen. 45 00:03:05,034 --> 00:03:09,748 It almost felt like the house had a mind of it's own 46 00:03:09,748 --> 00:03:14,253 and I had noticed a few things like the toilet would flush 47 00:03:14,253 --> 00:03:16,505 in the middle of the night. 48 00:03:17,796 --> 00:03:24,803 (flushing) 49 00:03:24,803 --> 00:03:30,809 50 00:03:30,809 --> 00:03:31,810 And nobody would be up; 51 00:03:31,810 --> 00:03:33,812 lights would come on by themselves sometimes, 52 00:03:33,812 --> 00:03:37,859 heavy wooden doors would open and close on their own. 53 00:03:37,859 --> 00:03:41,820 At night a few times, I heard my door rattle; 54 00:03:41,820 --> 00:03:43,822 my doorknob rattle. 55 00:03:43,822 --> 00:03:49,747 56 00:03:49,747 --> 00:03:50,913 (slam) 57 00:03:50,913 --> 00:04:00,923 (rattling) 58 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:08,265 But the house itself definitely had it's own personality. 59 00:04:08,265 --> 00:04:11,893 Young children, adolescents are very vulnerable to spirits 60 00:04:11,893 --> 00:04:13,852 because they're closer to the spirit world. 61 00:04:13,852 --> 00:04:15,854 They're not taught yet to dissociate and discern 62 00:04:15,854 --> 00:04:19,276 everything that comes to them; they take everything as it is 63 00:04:19,276 --> 00:04:21,612 and they see that and because of that innocence, 64 00:04:21,612 --> 00:04:24,281 it's a lot easier for them to connect with that. 65 00:04:24,281 --> 00:04:25,907 Kids have a lot of energy in general, 66 00:04:25,907 --> 00:04:28,993 but there's some of the kids that have so much energy, 67 00:04:28,993 --> 00:04:31,079 they don't know what to do with it. 68 00:04:31,079 --> 00:04:31,996 That energy sometimes spews out 69 00:04:31,996 --> 00:04:35,958 and can create what we call the poltergeist anomaly. 70 00:04:35,958 --> 00:04:37,669 71 00:04:37,669 --> 00:04:39,254 Narrator: Mark was soon going to learn 72 00:04:39,254 --> 00:04:43,882 all about the destructive power of poltergeist energy. 73 00:04:43,882 --> 00:04:46,303 74 00:04:46,303 --> 00:04:48,096 Mark: It was a Saturday evening-- 75 00:04:48,096 --> 00:04:50,265 Just going out for a little bit. 76 00:04:50,265 --> 00:04:51,890 --which was not unusual. 77 00:04:51,890 --> 00:04:53,017 You be good tonight, okay? 78 00:04:53,017 --> 00:04:58,857 And I was left to babysit Meg and again, 79 00:04:58,857 --> 00:05:02,861 not an unusual thing, was completely comfortable with it. 80 00:05:02,861 --> 00:05:09,701 81 00:05:09,701 --> 00:05:12,911 I'd been in the house alone plenty of times. 82 00:05:12,911 --> 00:05:19,753 At night and during the day and never felt like-- 83 00:05:19,753 --> 00:05:23,590 Well I never felt like I did that evening, being watched, 84 00:05:23,590 --> 00:05:25,925 like someone else was in the house. 85 00:05:25,925 --> 00:05:31,306 86 00:05:31,306 --> 00:05:35,602 (baby crying) 87 00:05:35,602 --> 00:05:40,524 Meg was about 18 months so just under 2 years. 88 00:05:40,524 --> 00:05:46,113 89 00:05:46,113 --> 00:05:50,074 She really hadn't gotten her legs underneath her yet. 90 00:05:50,074 --> 00:05:54,746 91 00:05:54,746 --> 00:05:59,543 But this evening I had heard a knock on our back door. 92 00:05:59,543 --> 00:06:01,712 (announcer talking) 93 00:06:01,712 --> 00:06:03,547 (knocking) 94 00:06:03,962 --> 00:06:09,845 95 00:06:09,845 --> 00:06:10,387 Hey. 96 00:06:10,387 --> 00:06:11,513 Hi. 97 00:06:11,597 --> 00:06:15,016 I just happened to know this particular officer 98 00:06:15,016 --> 00:06:18,060 that was working that night, a friend of the family 99 00:06:18,060 --> 00:06:21,565 and he said that they had gotten a report or a phone call 100 00:06:21,565 --> 00:06:26,904 through dispatch that we were having a party in the house. 101 00:06:26,904 --> 00:06:31,366 Now again, I'm the only one there with Meg, 102 00:06:31,366 --> 00:06:35,954 who is sound asleep in her crib and he came in, 103 00:06:35,954 --> 00:06:37,873 he took a look around. 104 00:06:39,500 --> 00:06:40,999 Because I knew that the officer, 105 00:06:40,999 --> 00:06:44,129 he said 'yeah, it came from next door'. 106 00:06:44,213 --> 00:06:46,047 The Victorian next to us. 107 00:06:46,047 --> 00:06:49,843 And I had never seen anyone come in or out of that house, 108 00:06:49,843 --> 00:06:53,011 we'd just always assumed that it was purchased, 109 00:06:53,011 --> 00:06:54,348 bought and abandoned. 110 00:06:54,348 --> 00:06:56,975 !I remember coming home everyday from school and there were 111 00:06:56,975 --> 00:07:01,355 newspapers on the front porch !that were always being delivered 112 00:07:01,355 --> 00:07:04,022 and the mailbox was overflowing with mail. 113 00:07:04,022 --> 00:07:06,902 And there's no way there could have been a phone call 114 00:07:06,902 --> 00:07:10,572 come from inside that house, there's just no way. 115 00:07:10,572 --> 00:07:14,826 116 00:07:14,826 --> 00:07:17,871 And he said well I don't have any explanation for you, 117 00:07:17,871 --> 00:07:19,581 just don't have anybody over here you know, 118 00:07:19,581 --> 00:07:23,210 you're too young to be home alone with people in the house 119 00:07:23,210 --> 00:07:26,044 besides you and Meg. 120 00:07:27,045 --> 00:07:31,050 After the officer left, Meg started to cry. 121 00:07:31,050 --> 00:07:33,051 (baby crying) 122 00:07:33,051 --> 00:07:35,889 So obviously I went inside the room, 123 00:07:35,889 --> 00:07:39,142 I figured she had just dropped her bottle. 124 00:07:39,142 --> 00:07:44,062 (baby crying) 125 00:07:44,062 --> 00:07:46,064 I looked everywhere for this thing. 126 00:07:46,064 --> 00:07:54,449 (baby crying) 127 00:07:54,449 --> 00:07:58,912 I went back into the kitchen and made her a bottle 128 00:07:58,912 --> 00:08:02,291 and when I came back in the room, there was the bottle that 129 00:08:02,291 --> 00:08:05,544 I had been looking for sitting right in front of her crib, 130 00:08:05,544 --> 00:08:09,631 on the floor where I would have been standing. 131 00:08:09,631 --> 00:08:19,641 132 00:08:20,392 --> 00:08:24,103 So that kinda rattled me a little bit because now I thought 133 00:08:24,103 --> 00:08:27,107 there's someone in this house. 134 00:08:27,107 --> 00:08:31,110 135 00:08:31,110 --> 00:08:36,325 So now I was a bit scared so I gave her the bottle. 136 00:08:36,325 --> 00:08:42,414 137 00:08:42,414 --> 00:08:44,499 Narrator: Fearing he was not home alone, 138 00:08:44,499 --> 00:08:47,961 Mark decided to grab some protection. 139 00:08:47,961 --> 00:08:51,130 140 00:08:51,130 --> 00:08:55,677 Mark: Then reached behind the couch where we kept a bat. 141 00:08:55,677 --> 00:08:59,681 142 00:08:59,681 --> 00:09:04,143 As kind of our last defense, our home security so to speak. 143 00:09:04,143 --> 00:09:10,025 144 00:09:10,025 --> 00:09:14,571 And I walked from one corner of the house to the other. 145 00:09:14,571 --> 00:09:24,581 146 00:09:24,623 --> 00:09:34,633 147 00:09:34,716 --> 00:09:44,726 148 00:09:54,736 --> 00:10:04,746 149 00:10:11,878 --> 00:10:14,213 (knocking) 150 00:10:14,213 --> 00:10:21,012 151 00:10:22,514 --> 00:10:30,397 152 00:10:30,397 --> 00:10:32,774 Narrator: 13 year old Mark Foster was home alone, 153 00:10:32,774 --> 00:10:36,236 babysitting his infant cousin when he started to experience 154 00:10:36,236 --> 00:10:39,573 strange goings-on in his house. 155 00:10:39,573 --> 00:10:44,162 156 00:10:44,162 --> 00:10:46,455 (knocking) 157 00:10:46,455 --> 00:10:49,248 158 00:10:49,248 --> 00:10:51,668 So when the knock came to the door, 159 00:10:51,668 --> 00:10:53,295 I hit the ceiling. 160 00:10:53,295 --> 00:11:02,261 161 00:11:02,261 --> 00:11:03,680 They had received another report 162 00:11:03,680 --> 00:11:06,933 that we had a party going on at my house. 163 00:11:06,933 --> 00:11:12,856 164 00:11:12,856 --> 00:11:16,443 Checked everything out again, made sure that I wasn't lying 165 00:11:16,443 --> 00:11:17,736 and that's when I told him 166 00:11:17,736 --> 00:11:20,781 everything that was going on in the house. 167 00:11:21,698 --> 00:11:24,283 You're the only one in here. 168 00:11:26,245 --> 00:11:32,251 Honestly, he looked at me like 'I know he's not lying to me'. 169 00:11:32,251 --> 00:11:35,337 And he put his arm around my shoulder and he said 170 00:11:35,337 --> 00:11:38,297 'You know what, just hold tight'. 171 00:11:38,297 --> 00:11:44,138 He decided to go and find my aunt to let her know 172 00:11:44,138 --> 00:11:46,515 that she needed to come home. 173 00:11:47,098 --> 00:11:48,350 Narrator: As soon as Mark was alone, 174 00:11:48,350 --> 00:11:53,855 the strange activity plaguing his cousin started again. 175 00:11:53,855 --> 00:11:58,026 But now, it was getting stronger. 176 00:11:58,026 --> 00:12:01,446 When I peeked in on her, she wasn't crying 177 00:12:01,446 --> 00:12:05,284 but she was standing straight up in her bed. 178 00:12:05,284 --> 00:12:13,332 179 00:12:13,332 --> 00:12:16,335 Like someone was holding her. 180 00:12:16,335 --> 00:12:19,673 Um, up underneath the arms. 181 00:12:19,673 --> 00:12:20,590 Um, because at that point, 182 00:12:20,590 --> 00:12:23,635 she couldn't stand without holding onto something. 183 00:12:23,635 --> 00:12:27,306 184 00:12:27,306 --> 00:12:30,433 And then I thought I heard something behind me 185 00:12:30,433 --> 00:12:33,854 and I turned to look-- 186 00:12:35,231 --> 00:12:37,233 And maybe a second later turned back around 187 00:12:37,233 --> 00:12:42,361 and she was sound asleep, back laying down in her bed. 188 00:12:42,361 --> 00:12:44,115 189 00:12:44,115 --> 00:12:47,951 Narrator: Then the strange activity began to increase. 190 00:12:47,951 --> 00:12:49,368 (kettle whistling) 191 00:12:49,368 --> 00:12:51,997 The tea kettle went off, full blast. 192 00:12:51,997 --> 00:12:56,375 (kettle whistling) 193 00:12:56,375 --> 00:12:59,963 When I walked into the kitchen, every single electric burner 194 00:12:59,963 --> 00:13:04,383 on our stove was on, the cabinets were open-- 195 00:13:04,383 --> 00:13:07,012 196 00:13:07,012 --> 00:13:15,729 (kettle whistling) 197 00:13:15,729 --> 00:13:19,024 The tea cups that she never used - fine china - 198 00:13:19,024 --> 00:13:24,070 on their plates as if someone was coming for tea. 199 00:13:24,070 --> 00:13:30,035 (kettle whistling) 200 00:13:30,869 --> 00:13:34,706 Quite frankly, almost (bleep) my pants. 201 00:13:34,706 --> 00:13:37,168 Because I knew I needed to go into that room. 202 00:13:37,168 --> 00:13:41,420 I didn't have a choice, I had to turn the burners off. 203 00:13:41,838 --> 00:13:47,426 Sorry to be so blunt, but I almost defecated on myself. 204 00:13:47,426 --> 00:13:52,266 That's how crazy it was. 205 00:13:53,850 --> 00:13:59,522 !I made my way in there and threw the tea kettle into the sink. 206 00:13:59,522 --> 00:14:04,320 207 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:05,695 Narrator: Instinctively, Mark rushed back 208 00:14:05,695 --> 00:14:09,574 to protect his cousin but whatever was in Mark's house 209 00:14:09,574 --> 00:14:11,493 had other ideas. 210 00:14:11,910 --> 00:14:18,625 Went to step through the doorway and I was physically picked up 211 00:14:19,168 --> 00:14:22,421 and thrown backwards through the door. 212 00:14:22,421 --> 00:14:28,510 213 00:14:28,510 --> 00:14:29,552 Ugh! 214 00:14:29,552 --> 00:14:31,430 Aah! 215 00:14:31,430 --> 00:14:39,146 216 00:14:40,689 --> 00:14:48,487 217 00:14:48,487 --> 00:14:50,740 Narrator: Home alone babysitting, 13 year old 218 00:14:50,740 --> 00:14:54,911 !Mark Foster was being tormented by paranormal activity. 219 00:14:54,911 --> 00:15:00,167 But then it escalated !into a violent, physical attack. 220 00:15:00,167 --> 00:15:03,295 And I was physically picked up 221 00:15:03,295 --> 00:15:06,505 and thrown backwards through the door. 222 00:15:06,505 --> 00:15:13,305 223 00:15:13,305 --> 00:15:14,513 Ugh! 224 00:15:14,513 --> 00:15:15,974 Ahh! 225 00:15:15,974 --> 00:15:18,517 226 00:15:18,517 --> 00:15:22,148 And I still have the scar to prove it. 227 00:15:22,148 --> 00:15:26,360 8 to 12 stitches I had to have. 228 00:15:28,195 --> 00:15:29,863 Sprits and ghosts are two different things: 229 00:15:29,863 --> 00:15:32,032 spirits are something that cross over, come back; 230 00:15:32,032 --> 00:15:33,700 ghosts are someone that are here, stuck. 231 00:15:33,700 --> 00:15:36,454 Poltergeists anomaly are built off energy; 232 00:15:36,454 --> 00:15:38,414 built up energy of fear, fear based. 233 00:15:38,414 --> 00:15:40,374 And now that fear basic grows from that, 234 00:15:40,374 --> 00:15:42,334 grows from energy from children and from that 235 00:15:42,334 --> 00:15:46,545 it can be actually manipulating to actually be a physical form 236 00:15:46,545 --> 00:15:48,965 and actually act out to harm somebody. 237 00:15:48,965 --> 00:15:51,385 It's the fear that really creates the anomaly 238 00:15:51,385 --> 00:15:54,012 that poltergeist that's there. 239 00:15:55,096 --> 00:15:56,223 Narrator: Stunned and bleeding, 240 00:15:56,223 --> 00:16:00,394 !Mark was afraid that his cousin had been attacked too. 241 00:16:00,394 --> 00:16:10,404 242 00:16:12,406 --> 00:16:16,618 I knew I was dealing with something evil. 243 00:16:16,618 --> 00:16:18,245 The only way to describe it. 244 00:16:18,245 --> 00:16:20,789 I was damn well determined to get in that room, 245 00:16:20,789 --> 00:16:23,708 that was my only thought: I need to get in, 246 00:16:23,708 --> 00:16:24,667 protect the baby. 247 00:16:24,667 --> 00:16:25,585 That's it. 248 00:16:25,585 --> 00:16:27,463 Nothing was gonna keep me outta that room. 249 00:16:27,463 --> 00:16:31,800 I just put my shoulder down and I ran as hard as I could. 250 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:41,600 251 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:47,149 I grabbed her out of her crib, walked back through the doorway 252 00:16:47,149 --> 00:16:52,904 into the living room and sat down on the couch 253 00:16:52,904 --> 00:16:57,409 and just waited and um, I was still bleeding. 254 00:16:57,409 --> 00:17:00,121 255 00:17:00,121 --> 00:17:09,628 (buzzing) 256 00:17:09,628 --> 00:17:12,299 My aunt came home and saw the condition I was in 257 00:17:12,299 --> 00:17:16,554 and instantly panicked and was like 'What is going on?'. 258 00:17:16,554 --> 00:17:26,564 259 00:17:27,814 --> 00:17:29,649 And I told her everything that happened. 260 00:17:29,649 --> 00:17:35,822 Definitely I could tell she was 100% believing me. 261 00:17:35,822 --> 00:17:43,830 262 00:17:43,830 --> 00:17:46,542 Well it's sort of like whatever it was said 263 00:17:46,542 --> 00:17:48,667 'I told you, I got you'. 264 00:17:48,667 --> 00:17:53,672 That's the way I felt afterwards: 'I got you', 265 00:17:53,672 --> 00:17:55,176 'Now you know'. 266 00:17:55,176 --> 00:18:00,889 'Now you know that I'm here and we got you.' 267 00:18:00,889 --> 00:18:03,642 268 00:18:03,642 --> 00:18:07,146 A spirit or a ghost may want to try to kill someone just because 269 00:18:07,146 --> 00:18:10,441 they still either hold a grudge towards that person that they 270 00:18:10,441 --> 00:18:14,653 knew in life or because they're just a very violent, 271 00:18:14,653 --> 00:18:19,408 negative, possibly even demonic type spirit. 272 00:18:19,408 --> 00:18:28,584 273 00:18:28,584 --> 00:18:31,503 !Narrator: Still terrified by his experience that night, 274 00:18:31,503 --> 00:18:35,341 Mark moved out of his aunt's house shortly after. 275 00:18:35,341 --> 00:18:38,009 276 00:18:38,009 --> 00:18:42,889 I became very introverted after I came back to Chicago. 277 00:18:42,889 --> 00:18:47,769 Um, mostly because I had lost a connection 278 00:18:47,769 --> 00:18:52,524 with not just my family but I think a little bit of myself. 279 00:18:52,524 --> 00:18:59,030 Um, I was still kinda dealing with the results of my attack. 280 00:18:59,030 --> 00:19:00,199 Um-- 281 00:19:00,199 --> 00:19:03,369 So I didn't really talk to anybody. 282 00:19:03,369 --> 00:19:10,167 283 00:19:10,167 --> 00:19:12,751 The reason through my experience why people are so hesitant 284 00:19:12,751 --> 00:19:16,590 to talk about paranormal experiences or encounters is 285 00:19:16,590 --> 00:19:18,217 fear; that's it, fear. 286 00:19:18,217 --> 00:19:22,346 Their fear of being ridiculed by people or fear of somebody not 287 00:19:22,346 --> 00:19:24,763 believing them or fear of not knowing what to do. 288 00:19:24,763 --> 00:19:27,184 We're losing our connection with trying to communicate with who's 289 00:19:27,184 --> 00:19:29,978 really there and we're getting caught up with all this fear 290 00:19:29,978 --> 00:19:33,232 base and losing the sense of communicating and understanding 291 00:19:33,232 --> 00:19:37,776 what we're all about here in the physical and the spirit. 292 00:19:37,776 --> 00:19:38,777 293 00:19:38,777 --> 00:19:41,030 Narrator: Years later, Mark would get a clue 294 00:19:41,030 --> 00:19:43,782 about the reason behind the attacks. 295 00:19:43,782 --> 00:19:45,327 296 00:19:45,327 --> 00:19:50,666 I'm 100% convinced that my encounter was a direct result 297 00:19:50,666 --> 00:19:54,503 of what they found on that property. 298 00:19:54,503 --> 00:19:57,796 299 00:19:57,796 --> 00:20:01,968 They dug up the foundation of the old house-- 300 00:20:01,968 --> 00:20:07,558 301 00:20:07,558 --> 00:20:11,312 They uncovered a tunnel that lead from the Victorian 302 00:20:11,312 --> 00:20:14,814 next door to the house that we lived in. 303 00:20:14,814 --> 00:20:17,900 And when they knocked down some of the brick, 304 00:20:17,900 --> 00:20:21,196 they found the human skeletal remains 305 00:20:21,196 --> 00:20:23,449 of what appear to be a family. 306 00:20:23,449 --> 00:20:27,827 307 00:20:27,827 --> 00:20:34,251 But I believe personally, that it was the angry spirit 308 00:20:34,251 --> 00:20:38,172 of if not that whole family, at least the father figure 309 00:20:38,172 --> 00:20:42,551 that they uncovered that was trying to tell me 310 00:20:42,551 --> 00:20:49,057 'This is my house, this is my family, I don't want you here'. 311 00:20:49,057 --> 00:20:52,144 'You're gonna get out one way or the other'. 312 00:20:52,144 --> 00:20:56,607 313 00:20:56,607 --> 00:20:59,859 I wouldn't want anything that ever happened to me 314 00:20:59,859 --> 00:21:03,905 to happen to anyone, even my worst enemy. 315 00:21:03,905 --> 00:21:05,574 Not in a million years. 316 00:21:05,574 --> 00:21:08,369 (kettle whistling) 317 00:21:08,369 --> 00:21:09,868 Ugh! 318 00:21:09,868 --> 00:21:13,332 319 00:21:13,332 --> 00:21:17,544 It was definitely the scariest night of my life. 320 00:21:17,544 --> 00:21:25,884 321 00:21:25,884 --> 00:21:28,472 Narrator: Being tormented by spirits for one night is bad 322 00:21:28,472 --> 00:21:35,437 enough, but for some children the terror goes on and on. 323 00:21:35,437 --> 00:21:41,110 324 00:21:41,110 --> 00:21:46,407 (typing) 325 00:21:47,699 --> 00:21:48,907 !McKayla. 326 00:21:49,618 --> 00:21:58,917 327 00:21:58,917 --> 00:22:01,839 Narrator: Don MacDonald and !his children McKayla and Cameron 328 00:22:01,839 --> 00:22:06,510 moved into a farm house with a disturbing past. 329 00:22:06,510 --> 00:22:11,723 But the cheap rent proved too good a deal to turn down. 330 00:22:11,723 --> 00:22:14,560 331 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,438 We knew the stories of the farm, that a young girl, 332 00:22:17,438 --> 00:22:22,276 about 17 had been murdered there and left in the barn to rot 333 00:22:22,276 --> 00:22:26,196 for 2 years before her body was found. 334 00:22:26,196 --> 00:22:29,948 335 00:22:29,948 --> 00:22:35,122 What started the search was after the owner of the time 336 00:22:35,122 --> 00:22:41,795 had gotten in a fight with his roommate or a tenant and um, 337 00:22:41,795 --> 00:22:46,175 well the one guy ended up dying and then the police were called. 338 00:22:46,175 --> 00:22:49,136 339 00:22:49,136 --> 00:22:54,516 I think there was more to the murders than what they said. 340 00:22:54,516 --> 00:22:58,520 There's the possibility of a body still existing 341 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:02,900 on the property, what we were told. 342 00:23:02,900 --> 00:23:11,492 343 00:23:11,492 --> 00:23:13,992 Narrator: When 16 year old McKayla arrived, 344 00:23:13,992 --> 00:23:18,457 she felt a darkness coming from the barn. 345 00:23:18,457 --> 00:23:27,005 346 00:23:27,005 --> 00:23:30,385 The landlord had told us that the previous owners 347 00:23:30,385 --> 00:23:34,473 had moved out really quick, didn't even give a notification 348 00:23:34,473 --> 00:23:38,016 that they were leaving and left everything there. 349 00:23:38,016 --> 00:23:40,061 They left real quick without him even knowing 350 00:23:40,061 --> 00:23:44,274 so he wasn't sure what happened. 351 00:23:44,274 --> 00:23:54,284 352 00:23:54,451 --> 00:23:57,871 Everything in the house was left, 353 00:23:57,871 --> 00:24:04,085 from the food on the tables to all the furniture, 354 00:24:04,085 --> 00:24:06,255 clothes and such. 355 00:24:06,255 --> 00:24:15,013 356 00:24:15,013 --> 00:24:20,435 Creepy, very creepy, kinda like a chill going up your spine 357 00:24:20,435 --> 00:24:24,062 kinda thing, like you're being watched. 358 00:24:24,062 --> 00:24:31,446 359 00:24:31,446 --> 00:24:32,823 My daughter McKayla didn't like it, 360 00:24:32,823 --> 00:24:37,953 she didn't like the feeling of the place, it was just-- 361 00:24:37,953 --> 00:24:41,748 she knew we couldn't really afford too much, so. 362 00:24:41,748 --> 00:24:51,758 363 00:24:53,091 --> 00:24:55,470 Children can tend to track paranormal activity 364 00:24:55,470 --> 00:24:59,097 just because they are more open to spirit 365 00:24:59,097 --> 00:25:02,101 and it's easy for spirit to interact with them. 366 00:25:02,101 --> 00:25:07,274 A spirit may sometimes target a child because that child is much 367 00:25:07,274 --> 00:25:14,573 more easier to terrorize or scare out of a display of power 368 00:25:14,573 --> 00:25:19,036 and that child is unable to defend themselves. 369 00:25:19,036 --> 00:25:27,126 370 00:25:27,126 --> 00:25:29,463 Narrator: The family settled into their new home 371 00:25:29,463 --> 00:25:31,423 as best they could. 372 00:25:32,341 --> 00:25:34,133 The oppressive atmosphere bothered them 373 00:25:34,133 --> 00:25:38,137 but nothing untoward happened at first. 374 00:25:38,137 --> 00:25:39,556 375 00:25:39,556 --> 00:25:42,517 I believe it was a few months after we were there, 376 00:25:42,517 --> 00:25:46,145 you would here these really loud bangs. 377 00:25:46,145 --> 00:25:48,607 Announcer: Police have a suspect in custody-- 378 00:25:48,607 --> 00:25:50,484 (loud bang) 379 00:25:50,484 --> 00:25:58,157 380 00:25:59,743 --> 00:26:07,709 381 00:26:07,709 --> 00:26:10,545 !Narrator: Shortly after 16 year old McKayla MacDonald-Smith 382 00:26:10,545 --> 00:26:14,675 !and her family moved into a farm house with a murderous past 383 00:26:14,675 --> 00:26:17,594 she started hearing strange noises in the night. 384 00:26:17,594 --> 00:26:18,720 Announcer: --suffered serious injuries. 385 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,432 I believe it was a few months after we were there you would 386 00:26:22,432 --> 00:26:25,894 hear these really loud bangs. 387 00:26:25,894 --> 00:26:28,188 Announcer: Police have a suspect in custody-- 388 00:26:28,188 --> 00:26:29,606 (loud bang) 389 00:26:29,606 --> 00:26:33,777 390 00:26:33,777 --> 00:26:36,863 There was times where you could just tell it was footsteps 391 00:26:36,863 --> 00:26:39,366 running on the stairs back and forth. 392 00:26:39,366 --> 00:26:43,662 The footsteps sounded like someone with work boots on 393 00:26:43,662 --> 00:26:47,749 walking up the stairs and to the hallway. 394 00:26:47,749 --> 00:26:51,378 (footsteps) 395 00:26:51,378 --> 00:27:01,220 396 00:27:01,220 --> 00:27:02,221 (running) 397 00:27:02,221 --> 00:27:03,890 And we would run up there, you know, 398 00:27:03,890 --> 00:27:07,103 like is there an intruder, or is my little brother 399 00:27:07,103 --> 00:27:08,395 out of bed perhaps? 400 00:27:08,395 --> 00:27:14,860 401 00:27:14,860 --> 00:27:18,655 But there was never anyone there. 402 00:27:20,158 --> 00:27:23,076 Some of the early signs of haunting can be things like 403 00:27:23,076 --> 00:27:28,247 lights flickering, doors opening or closing, 404 00:27:28,247 --> 00:27:31,501 different things like that could happen because that's what 405 00:27:31,501 --> 00:27:34,796 a spirit has the energy to be able to do. 406 00:27:34,796 --> 00:27:44,806 407 00:27:44,848 --> 00:27:54,858 408 00:27:54,941 --> 00:28:01,157 409 00:28:01,157 --> 00:28:03,867 There was the point where there was doors 410 00:28:03,867 --> 00:28:06,703 and windows shutting by themselves. 411 00:28:06,703 --> 00:28:16,671 412 00:28:16,671 --> 00:28:18,297 We always had problems with the lights, 413 00:28:18,297 --> 00:28:21,092 always turning on and off, turned on the light and the 414 00:28:21,092 --> 00:28:25,013 light just turned off on you, and it's like, "okay." 415 00:28:26,723 --> 00:28:27,599 (door slamming) 416 00:28:27,599 --> 00:28:28,307 (scream) 417 00:28:29,726 --> 00:28:32,311 418 00:28:32,311 --> 00:28:34,314 At a location where there's been a violent death, 419 00:28:34,314 --> 00:28:37,859 particularly a murder, there is a much greater chance that a 420 00:28:37,859 --> 00:28:42,321 haunting with result, because when a spirit passes in that 421 00:28:42,321 --> 00:28:47,119 traumatic way there's usually a lot of anger there and that pent 422 00:28:47,119 --> 00:28:53,458 up anger with result in them being locked to that location. 423 00:28:53,458 --> 00:28:57,336 424 00:28:57,336 --> 00:29:02,301 Sometimes, 'cause I work late at night the doors would start 425 00:29:02,301 --> 00:29:04,343 slamming and you didn't know which doors were there, 426 00:29:04,343 --> 00:29:09,267 'cause either the doors were closed or it was a sound of like 427 00:29:09,267 --> 00:29:14,729 a wood stove door closing really hard. 428 00:29:14,729 --> 00:29:17,356 429 00:29:17,356 --> 00:29:18,567 (glass breaking) 430 00:29:18,567 --> 00:29:21,360 (creaking) 431 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:31,370 432 00:29:33,291 --> 00:29:34,374 (door slamming) 433 00:29:34,374 --> 00:29:38,337 434 00:29:38,337 --> 00:29:40,630 (door slamming) 435 00:29:40,630 --> 00:29:49,055 436 00:29:49,055 --> 00:29:53,727 It got pretty weird. 437 00:29:54,393 --> 00:30:04,403 438 00:30:04,403 --> 00:30:14,413 439 00:30:14,413 --> 00:30:19,586 440 00:30:19,586 --> 00:30:22,547 Everyone was in bed and I had just gone to bed, 441 00:30:22,547 --> 00:30:25,176 it was about 1:30 in the morning, 442 00:30:25,176 --> 00:30:26,425 and I just had that feeling 443 00:30:26,425 --> 00:30:29,554 to look over in the corner of my room. 444 00:30:30,222 --> 00:30:34,601 (creaking) 445 00:30:34,601 --> 00:30:44,611 446 00:30:44,653 --> 00:30:54,663 447 00:30:54,746 --> 00:31:00,543 448 00:31:00,543 --> 00:31:03,880 And there stood this man, and he had like a, 449 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:08,302 he was blacker than night, he had a top hat on and it seemed 450 00:31:08,302 --> 00:31:12,223 to be like a trench coat type, so back like in the olden days 451 00:31:12,223 --> 00:31:15,142 they used to wear their long coats. 452 00:31:15,142 --> 00:31:25,152 453 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,489 And to this day we call him the man in black. 454 00:31:30,489 --> 00:31:36,205 455 00:31:36,205 --> 00:31:40,500 It stood there for a few minutes and I was too scared to move 456 00:31:40,500 --> 00:31:45,672 and then it just took off outside of my door, 457 00:31:45,672 --> 00:31:48,507 really scared me and had me starting to believe 458 00:31:48,507 --> 00:31:51,094 that this place was really, really haunted. 459 00:31:51,094 --> 00:32:01,105 460 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,898 Hauntings can start out with something as innocent as 461 00:32:03,898 --> 00:32:08,487 footsteps and they can progress very rapidly into much more 462 00:32:08,487 --> 00:32:12,531 threatening activity, perhaps it's because the spirit is 463 00:32:12,531 --> 00:32:16,454 feeling you out, what level of fear are you going to have, 464 00:32:16,454 --> 00:32:18,621 what reaction are you going to have, 465 00:32:18,621 --> 00:32:21,500 and the more they can intimidate you, 466 00:32:21,500 --> 00:32:24,543 the more they will escalate their activity. 467 00:32:24,543 --> 00:32:25,463 468 00:32:25,463 --> 00:32:28,382 !Narrator: McKayla was frightened by the activity in the house, 469 00:32:28,382 --> 00:32:31,676 !but it was the nearby barn where a young woman's murdered body 470 00:32:31,676 --> 00:32:36,432 had once been found that really filled her with dread. 471 00:32:38,350 --> 00:32:42,687 From the barn you would feel a lot of staring, 472 00:32:42,687 --> 00:32:44,482 it would make you feel uncomfortable, 473 00:32:44,482 --> 00:32:47,318 you were always constantly being watched. 474 00:32:47,318 --> 00:32:53,782 475 00:32:53,782 --> 00:32:56,993 Whenever you were near windows, especially in the kitchen, 476 00:32:56,993 --> 00:32:59,662 which was a great view to the barn, 477 00:32:59,662 --> 00:33:02,458 you would see fragments of shadows. 478 00:33:02,458 --> 00:33:12,468 479 00:33:12,510 --> 00:33:22,520 480 00:33:22,601 --> 00:33:32,611 481 00:33:42,621 --> 00:33:50,548 482 00:33:50,548 --> 00:33:51,630 (screaming) 483 00:33:51,630 --> 00:33:59,097 484 00:34:00,639 --> 00:34:08,982 485 00:34:08,982 --> 00:34:11,110 Narrator: Since moving into their new farm house, 486 00:34:11,110 --> 00:34:13,778 McKayla MacDonald-Smith and her family had been 487 00:34:13,778 --> 00:34:17,158 experiencing paranormal activity, then one night 488 00:34:17,158 --> 00:34:21,537 while standing in her kitchen !McKayla had the strange feeling 489 00:34:21,537 --> 00:34:24,873 she was being watched from the barn. 490 00:34:24,873 --> 00:34:34,883 491 00:34:34,924 --> 00:34:44,934 492 00:34:46,395 --> 00:34:48,021 (screaming) 493 00:34:49,273 --> 00:34:52,318 You'd see like this, it seemed to be like a shadow man, 494 00:34:52,318 --> 00:34:55,613 and he would walk across one of the beams in the barn 495 00:34:55,613 --> 00:34:58,199 and he would just walk back repeatedly. 496 00:34:58,199 --> 00:35:08,209 497 00:35:10,710 --> 00:35:13,963 The one that was in the barn was always negative, 498 00:35:13,963 --> 00:35:17,716 he seemed always angry. 499 00:35:17,716 --> 00:35:23,722 (growling) 500 00:35:23,722 --> 00:35:26,976 Narrator: Help would come from an unlikely source. 501 00:35:26,976 --> 00:35:28,687 (growling) 502 00:35:28,687 --> 00:35:30,105 (screams) 503 00:35:32,065 --> 00:35:35,527 When he would threaten her the spirit she called man in black 504 00:35:35,527 --> 00:35:37,736 would show up and step in front of her 505 00:35:37,736 --> 00:35:40,366 and kind of protect her from him. 506 00:35:40,366 --> 00:35:41,533 (growling) 507 00:35:41,533 --> 00:35:46,372 Yeah he scared me, but at the same time I felt safe 508 00:35:46,372 --> 00:35:47,746 from the other spirits from him. 509 00:35:47,746 --> 00:35:49,748 So it was almost like the property 510 00:35:49,748 --> 00:35:52,751 had it's own black angel. 511 00:35:52,751 --> 00:36:02,761 512 00:36:04,473 --> 00:36:08,059 Narrator: But the man in black !couldn't protect McKayla and Don 513 00:36:08,059 --> 00:36:10,271 from what was yet to come. 514 00:36:10,271 --> 00:36:12,855 (laughing) 515 00:36:12,855 --> 00:36:13,691 516 00:36:13,691 --> 00:36:18,027 When I turned 17 my dad had thrown a birthday party for me 517 00:36:18,027 --> 00:36:22,324 and I had brought a bunch of my friends from my new school. 518 00:36:22,324 --> 00:36:24,535 519 00:36:24,535 --> 00:36:27,329 We had the fire, roasted some marshmallows, 520 00:36:27,329 --> 00:36:32,791 and we're all hanging outside, and everyone had started to 521 00:36:32,791 --> 00:36:35,003 have a bad headache. 522 00:36:35,003 --> 00:36:41,218 523 00:36:41,218 --> 00:36:45,804 My dad started to get a really bad violent look in his eye, 524 00:36:45,804 --> 00:36:48,807 his head was just driving him nuts. 525 00:36:48,807 --> 00:36:57,735 526 00:36:57,735 --> 00:37:01,572 (screaming) 527 00:37:01,572 --> 00:37:04,241 And then all you heard was the screaming outside, 528 00:37:04,241 --> 00:37:06,826 and we thought someone was in the forest. 529 00:37:06,826 --> 00:37:08,287 No one knew what to do, 530 00:37:08,287 --> 00:37:10,955 we didn't know if it was a real person. 531 00:37:10,955 --> 00:37:14,917 (screaming) 532 00:37:14,917 --> 00:37:19,838 So my dad went out to the forest and this was the first time 533 00:37:19,838 --> 00:37:22,718 anyone's gone to the forest at night. 534 00:37:22,718 --> 00:37:32,728 535 00:37:32,770 --> 00:37:42,780 536 00:37:43,863 --> 00:37:47,117 We got close to the forest and we never went in it, 537 00:37:47,117 --> 00:37:52,871 but we were walking by it, but we got this strange feeling like 538 00:37:52,871 --> 00:37:58,670 we've never felt before and it was like we shouldn't be there. 539 00:37:58,670 --> 00:38:08,680 540 00:38:09,264 --> 00:38:13,143 And we just had to stop and we just looked at each other, 541 00:38:13,143 --> 00:38:15,396 like, "okay, do you feel that?" 542 00:38:15,396 --> 00:38:21,235 543 00:38:21,235 --> 00:38:25,447 All of a sudden we see this massive figure come 544 00:38:25,447 --> 00:38:27,990 like sticking out of the forest. 545 00:38:27,990 --> 00:38:38,000 546 00:38:39,918 --> 00:38:47,926 547 00:38:47,926 --> 00:38:49,680 Narrator: At her 17th birthday party, 548 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,973 McKayla MacDonald-Smith and her friends were startled 549 00:38:51,973 --> 00:38:57,354 when they heard strange sounds coming from a nearby forest. 550 00:38:58,730 --> 00:38:59,938 Her father Don left the group 551 00:38:59,938 --> 00:39:03,942 to investigate the source of the screaming. 552 00:39:04,736 --> 00:39:08,740 All of a sudden we see this massive figure come like 553 00:39:08,740 --> 00:39:15,079 sticking out of the forest and it just scared us completely 554 00:39:15,079 --> 00:39:18,957 and we're just like, "yeah okay we're done, we're running." 555 00:39:18,957 --> 00:39:28,218 556 00:39:28,218 --> 00:39:33,849 (indistinct yelling) 557 00:39:33,849 --> 00:39:35,392 I remember just seeing their flashlights 558 00:39:35,392 --> 00:39:39,104 and they came running back, like I mean they came running back 559 00:39:39,104 --> 00:39:42,981 and I don't think I've ever seen my dad so scared. 560 00:39:42,981 --> 00:39:44,983 561 00:39:44,983 --> 00:39:47,986 If you're witnessing a very large dark cloud, 562 00:39:47,986 --> 00:39:50,989 chances are that it's multiple entities 563 00:39:50,989 --> 00:39:56,955 and probably multiple negative entities gathering together. 564 00:39:56,955 --> 00:40:00,751 565 00:40:00,751 --> 00:40:05,297 (indistinct yelling) 566 00:40:05,297 --> 00:40:10,008 567 00:40:10,008 --> 00:40:14,890 Yeah that thing in the forest was probably the number one 568 00:40:14,890 --> 00:40:18,016 most scariest thing I've ever had to deal with so far. 569 00:40:18,016 --> 00:40:22,314 I would say this thing was taller than us, 570 00:40:22,314 --> 00:40:27,068 it was bigger, I couldn't even describe 571 00:40:27,068 --> 00:40:30,029 what the kind of a shape it was. 572 00:40:30,029 --> 00:40:32,073 573 00:40:32,073 --> 00:40:34,075 Advice I would give somebody who's experiencing 574 00:40:34,075 --> 00:40:37,663 violent activity from a spirit would be to contact 575 00:40:37,663 --> 00:40:42,292 a local paranormal team to try to get assistance. 576 00:40:42,292 --> 00:40:44,042 577 00:40:44,042 --> 00:40:47,005 Narrator: Shaken by his experience Don called in 578 00:40:47,005 --> 00:40:51,049 a team of paranormal investigators. 579 00:40:52,051 --> 00:40:56,097 The psychic and the lead investigator, 580 00:40:56,097 --> 00:40:58,183 McKayla went to the barn. 581 00:40:58,183 --> 00:41:04,062 582 00:41:04,062 --> 00:41:05,440 The first time we went in 583 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,694 we were getting spikes on our K2 meters. 584 00:41:08,694 --> 00:41:17,075 585 00:41:17,075 --> 00:41:19,788 And at one point a team member Brad; 586 00:41:19,788 --> 00:41:25,294 a medium, psychic, he picked up on a male spirit who I believe 587 00:41:25,294 --> 00:41:31,258 he said was the male who was murdered at the farm, 588 00:41:31,258 --> 00:41:33,091 and then as we were moving around 589 00:41:33,091 --> 00:41:36,179 he picked up another spirit, a female spirit. 590 00:41:36,179 --> 00:41:40,099 591 00:41:40,099 --> 00:41:44,730 The first recording that we caught was a male voice, 592 00:41:44,730 --> 00:41:46,440 it sounded agitated. 593 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:47,608 594 00:41:47,608 --> 00:41:51,069 The first time we hear it, it was basically just a 'hi', 595 00:41:51,069 --> 00:41:52,863 like, "woah, did you all hear that?" 596 00:41:52,863 --> 00:41:56,115 We're all like, "we all heard that." 597 00:41:56,241 --> 00:41:58,577 Ghost: Hi. 598 00:41:58,952 --> 00:42:02,706 When we all walked in there no one wanted to be in there, 599 00:42:02,706 --> 00:42:04,374 it was hard to breathe. 600 00:42:04,374 --> 00:42:07,126 601 00:42:07,126 --> 00:42:11,048 My teeth were clenched automatically, they hurt. 602 00:42:11,048 --> 00:42:15,510 603 00:42:15,510 --> 00:42:20,098 I was shaking, not from fear but more from anger. 604 00:42:20,098 --> 00:42:23,060 And McKayla, she couldn't breathe, 605 00:42:23,060 --> 00:42:27,146 like she was shaking, and I guess her gums started to bleed. 606 00:42:27,146 --> 00:42:31,276 607 00:42:31,276 --> 00:42:33,945 I had to walk out of the barn. 608 00:42:33,945 --> 00:42:43,955 609 00:42:45,164 --> 00:42:48,335 And Brad decided that this oppressive feeling was getting 610 00:42:48,335 --> 00:42:53,172 to be too much and he started asking more direct questions 611 00:42:53,172 --> 00:42:56,009 to if there was anything there, and he was trying, 612 00:42:56,009 --> 00:42:59,138 basically get a response back and at one point he started 613 00:42:59,138 --> 00:43:02,141 choking, he felt like he was being choked out. 614 00:43:02,141 --> 00:43:11,817 615 00:43:11,817 --> 00:43:14,193 And actually had to leave that location 616 00:43:14,193 --> 00:43:18,197 because he was basically getting in distress. 617 00:43:18,197 --> 00:43:22,994 618 00:43:22,994 --> 00:43:28,875 And when I was in the barn by myself I had what sounded like 619 00:43:28,875 --> 00:43:30,752 footsteps circling me in the stone, 620 00:43:30,752 --> 00:43:32,211 it's a stone floor. 621 00:43:32,211 --> 00:43:35,882 (footsteps) 622 00:43:35,882 --> 00:43:41,220 So there was something of a heavy weight walking around me 623 00:43:41,220 --> 00:43:42,806 making the noise. 624 00:43:42,806 --> 00:43:45,224 625 00:43:45,224 --> 00:43:48,770 I had stones thrown at me from inside. 626 00:43:48,770 --> 00:43:53,984 627 00:43:53,984 --> 00:43:58,237 A lot of just negative feelings from the place. 628 00:43:58,237 --> 00:44:05,746 629 00:44:05,746 --> 00:44:09,750 I just pretty much didn't like the feeling in there and left. 630 00:44:09,750 --> 00:44:15,131 631 00:44:15,131 --> 00:44:19,593 If a spirit doesn't like you or it is particularly negative, 632 00:44:19,593 --> 00:44:24,473 in rare cases it can throw objects at you and obviously 633 00:44:24,473 --> 00:44:27,726 that is an expression of its anger and its intent 634 00:44:27,726 --> 00:44:31,563 to hurt you, and that takes an awful lot of energy, 635 00:44:31,563 --> 00:44:35,525 usually a lot of negative energy to propel something 636 00:44:35,525 --> 00:44:38,237 through the air like that. 637 00:44:38,237 --> 00:44:42,616 638 00:44:42,616 --> 00:44:46,286 I have a photo of Brad walking toward me and there is it looks 639 00:44:46,286 --> 00:44:49,664 like a black mass in the corner, it's blocking any light 640 00:44:49,664 --> 00:44:54,377 behind it, it actually looks like a human sized shadow. 641 00:44:54,377 --> 00:45:04,387 642 00:45:04,429 --> 00:45:09,810 643 00:45:09,810 --> 00:45:11,310 When we brought the evidence back, 644 00:45:11,310 --> 00:45:15,565 I think for them it was more of a reassurance. 645 00:45:15,565 --> 00:45:17,400 They felt justified, vindicated, like, 646 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,529 "yes you guys got something so it's real." 647 00:45:20,529 --> 00:45:30,329 648 00:45:30,329 --> 00:45:33,625 When things were starting to get more spooky here I didn't know 649 00:45:33,625 --> 00:45:36,335 if, you know, "was this safe for us to be here, 650 00:45:36,335 --> 00:45:39,339 were we causing something more than what we should, 651 00:45:39,339 --> 00:45:42,092 just by being here and living here, 652 00:45:42,092 --> 00:45:44,262 was it safe for my brother, or my dad, 653 00:45:44,262 --> 00:45:47,973 or me or anyone else that came into the house? 654 00:45:47,973 --> 00:45:51,227 So 2014 we decided to move. 655 00:45:51,227 --> 00:46:01,237 656 00:46:04,698 --> 00:46:08,451 I think there was a lot that happened in that barn that a lot 657 00:46:08,451 --> 00:46:13,957 of people will not know, or will ever know. 658 00:46:13,957 --> 00:46:23,967 50317

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