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There is an evil entity
in the house.
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You are about to see
real people...
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I was terrified
beyond belief.
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...reliving horrifying
paranormal encounters
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for the first time.
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I truly felt
it was like living in hell.
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When spirits talk
to the living...
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All of a sudden
you hear the voice
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in the background say,
"Get out!"
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I buried this
for nearly 30 years.
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Be prepared to be afraid.
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(♪♪♪)
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(Typing)
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Take 1.
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(♪♪♪)
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We lived in Rhode Island
all our life.
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We originally moved to Texas
just to try something new,
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to see if we would like it
somewhere else.
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But we missed home,
we missed being near the water,
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the four seasons,
the snow.
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And one day
we just found out,
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"Hey, I'm pregnant."
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We basically decided after that
to move back to Rhode Island,
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'cause we grew up here.
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We raised our other two kids
in Rhode Island,
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so we figured this one would be
the best way to raise our son
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that's being born now.
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When I found out
Shlisa being pregnant,
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it was the happiest day
of my life.
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I wanna be close
to my family.
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And I came back down
and I got the apartment,
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the three bedroom apartment.
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It was great, high ceilings,
big, big rooms, you know?
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No one lived in it
for a long time,
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so it was like
it was meant to be.
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It was meant to be our place
for us and our kids.
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The plan was me and my husband
would move down to Rhode Island
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while my kids would stay
in school in Texas
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to finish out
the school year.
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I didn't feel right
taking them out of school,
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so we just let 'em stay there
with my brother,
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who resided down in Texas,
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while we moved down
to Rhode Island
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to get ourselves settled
and situated.
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He was there for about a month
by himself.
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I was kinda lonely,
you know?
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I was, you know,
by myself
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not seeing my wife
or anything like that.
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One night I came home,
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I was sitting down
in my living area
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watching some TV and uh...
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(Door creaking)
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I look out into my kitchen...
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(♪♪♪)
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And I actually took like
a two-time look.
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It was just like a tall,
real tall like maybe 6'7,
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just dark figure,
like a shadow.
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If I stand in front of a light
and look behind me
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with a mirror or something,
you see my big shadow behind me,
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that's pretty much
what it looked like.
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Like real dark and deep.
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"Is that--
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Is someone standing
in my house?"
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And I'm the only one
living there, you know?
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I didn't even have my dog
with me,
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it was just me.
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Brian shared the experience
with his wife Shlisa.
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My husband would tell me
at night time,
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he would look out
the living room,
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while he laid on the couch
watching TV
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and our living room
faced the kitchen.
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And when
he would look out there,
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he would see a dark figure
just standing there
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staring right back at him.
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I don't know, I just--
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I was just trying to play it
off like a joke you know,
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ha-ha-ha,
you know?
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I don't know
if she believed me or not,
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you know?
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Because I don't know,
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she didn't see it
for herself yet, pretty much.
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Well, I just thought
he was overly tired, you know,
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and his mind was playing tricks
on him.
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I didn't think that
there was anything there.
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When my wife, Shlisa, moved in,
it was great.
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I was happy,
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there was someone there
with me, you know?
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I wasn't there
all by myself,
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I looked forward
to coming home.
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I personally loved
the apartment,
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it was what we needed,
and I felt happy.
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I didn't wanna think that
it was anything wrong with it.
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At first it was light,
and bright and happy,
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and then...
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Suddenly,
it just started changing.
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The atmosphere of it really--
was different.
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(♪♪♪)
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(Door creaking)
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I would go in the kitchen
I would cook,
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I'd hear something behind me
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and I'd just brush it off
thinking it was my dog.
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Or, you know, just not putting
much thought into it at all.
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(♪♪♪)
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But Shlisa suddenly felt
a wave of negative energy
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wash over her.
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It was this overwhelming
feeling of sadness,
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of irritation,
of anger.
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(♪♪♪)
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I kind of brushed it off
my shoulder, thinking you know,
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"Well, maybe it's my mind
playing tricks on me."
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Maybe, you know, the exhaustion
from moving into a new place,
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different state,
maybe that was getting to me.
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So I kind of brushed it off
at first.
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(♪♪♪)
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After my husband would leave
for work at 5:00 in the morning,
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I would get up
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and just start cleaning
the house.
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(Whispering)
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And I'd hear whispering
from the right side of my head,
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which would be from
towards the kitchen.
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(Whispering)
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Now me,
I'm thinking it's a TV.
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Maybe somehow
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it's projecting itself
throughout the room.
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(Whispering)
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But it was multiple whispers.
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(Whispering)
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All I heard was
"pss-pss-pss-pss".
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(Whispering)
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I could not make out
what it was saying,
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but I could just hear
the voices whispering
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inside the kitchen.
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(Whispering)
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(Whispering continues)
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I thought I was going nuts.
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I really thought, you know,
I hear little voices in my head.
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I couldn't pinpoint it
at the time what was going on.
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The experiences continued
to escalate.
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Me and my husband
were watching television.
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Reliable sources say that
chicken soup has proven to be...
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I was laying down
on the couch,
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I happened to look
to my right...
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(Whispering)
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And I seen the same
shadow figure
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that my husband
was telling me about.
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Just watching us,
wouldn't move,
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I didn't see a face,
it was just a figure.
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I turned around
to my husband
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and I basically poked him
in the shoulder
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and I said,
"Do you see what I see?"
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He leaned over, he goes,
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"That's what
I've been telling you
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I've been seeing the entire
time I've been here."
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And then that red--
made me feel like
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I wasn't crazy.
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(♪♪♪)
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You know, I thought
it could have been the light,
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it could have been
something passing there,
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but there was absolutely
no lights in my house,
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but the glowing
from the TV.
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(♪♪♪)
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There is something in here
that's watching me
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for some reason.
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(♪♪♪)
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She was frightened,
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my wife was frightened
about seeing the shadow guy.
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And I was scared for her too,
because I'm like,
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hey, you know
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there's someone else
in the house,
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something else is here,
you know?
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And it's just watching us.
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It was about to get
much worse.
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I was in the shower one day
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and I usually have
the bathroom door open,
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just in case I hear
somebody knocking on my door.
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(Creaking)
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I heard like
if somebody's hand was wet
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and it streaked down
my kitchen table
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and made
such a screeching sound.
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(Screeching)
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(♪♪♪)
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Fingerprints and a handprint
streaked down wet
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on my kitchen table.
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(Screeching)
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Shlisa searched
for an explanation.
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My door was dead bolted
upstairs.
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There's just no way
anybody else could get in.
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At that point in time,
I did call my husband
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and said, "Listen,
I gotta go, I gotta leave.
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I can't be here right now
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and this is
really freaking me out."
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And I came home that night
about maybe 8:00
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and the marks are still sitting
on my table.
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Of like fingerprints
being slid down the table,
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you know?
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(♪♪♪)
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I woke up one morning.
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And I looked down,
there were three bruises,
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fingerprint bruises.
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They're like
little tiny fingers.
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It looked like somebody came
out from behind me
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and grabbed me.
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I couldn't explain it.
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And she definitely
would've remembered
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if someone or something
actually did that to her.
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Unexplained bruises
and markings
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could be unexplained
paranormal phenomenon
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that a person is experiencing
from a haunting.
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Sometimes
it takes a drastic measure
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such as a physical impression
on the body
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like bites or scratch marks
or something like that
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to actually change
a sceptic's mind
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into believing that
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they're experiencing
something paranormal.
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A couple of days later,
I looked down on my leg
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and there were scratches
also on my leg.
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Three deep scratches
on my leg,
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so it was very frightening.
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It looked like
somebody rammed their nails
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right across my legs and their
nails were very sharp,
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so it left three marks
on my leg itself,
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on my left leg,
on my thigh.
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I was worried
for my baby's safety.
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I didn't know what was happening
would affect my child,
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that I was carrying
in my stomach.
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I didn't know
if it was somehow,
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someway trying to get
to my baby.
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She wanted out.
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And I kept on insisting that,
"No, we can't.
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There's nowhere else
we could go.
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You know, I don't have
the money to get another place
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and it's gonna take a while
to find another place
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and this is suitable for us."
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And I felt bad for her,
for saying that to her,
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because, you know,
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I was supposed to be supporting
my wife.
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And then I felt bad,
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because I couldn't protect her
and my child.
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At this point in time,
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the progression
was unbelievable.
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I mean,
the bruises started coming,
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the scratches started coming.
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It seemed like it had
a personal vendetta against me.
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I did go to my OB/GYN.
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The baby was fine,
I was fine,
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there was nothing going wrong,
everything was normal.
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That was a huge relief
that everything was going okay.
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After getting
a clean bill of health,
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Shlisa would experience
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her most vivid
and violent episode.
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I remember one morning,
my husband left
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probably around 4:30, 5:00
to go to work.
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As always,
like every morning,
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I get up, I make him
his cup of coffee,
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00:12:24,310 --> 00:12:26,445
you know, then I wait for him
to go to work.
256
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I'll lock the door
behind him
257
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and I'll go back
and I'll lay down on the couch.
258
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She said she was trying
to fall back to sleep
259
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with her arm over her head.
260
00:12:41,527 --> 00:12:43,429
And I'm just laying there,
there's no TV on,
261
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there was no nothing.
262
00:12:44,730 --> 00:12:46,465
I was wide awake.
263
00:12:48,234 --> 00:12:50,236
All of a sudden,
I felt something grab my hand
264
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and hold on to my hand.
265
00:12:52,671 --> 00:12:55,007
It was a very,
very tight grip.
266
00:12:55,107 --> 00:12:57,977
It felt so real like
it was another human being there
267
00:12:58,077 --> 00:12:59,779
that grabbed on to my hand.
268
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Next thing I know,
as I'm facing upwards...
269
00:13:05,217 --> 00:13:06,886
(Screaming)
270
00:13:06,986 --> 00:13:13,125
(♪♪♪)
271
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(♪♪♪)
272
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Shlisa Karvelas
and Brian Rodrigues
273
00:13:26,639 --> 00:13:29,742
had moved into
a new apartment,
274
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only to find themselves attacked
from the spirit world.
275
00:13:35,848 --> 00:13:37,950
All of a sudden,
I felt something grab my hand
276
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and hold on to my hand.
277
00:13:40,753 --> 00:13:44,757
Next thing I know,
as I'm facing upwards.
278
00:13:44,857 --> 00:13:45,858
I see...
279
00:13:45,958 --> 00:13:47,359
(Screaming)
280
00:13:48,761 --> 00:13:50,162
(Screaming)
281
00:13:50,262 --> 00:13:52,565
...something start hovering
right over me,
282
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I seen the hair, forehead.
283
00:13:57,736 --> 00:13:59,939
(Screaming)
284
00:14:00,039 --> 00:14:02,908
It was just levitating
right over me.
285
00:14:05,845 --> 00:14:07,980
I blacked out
'cause I was so scared.
286
00:14:11,050 --> 00:14:12,785
I called my husband up.
287
00:14:12,885 --> 00:14:14,186
And she actually wanted me
to turn around
288
00:14:14,286 --> 00:14:15,921
and come back home,
but I couldn't.
289
00:14:16,021 --> 00:14:17,056
At this point in time,
290
00:14:17,156 --> 00:14:19,758
it was the scariest thing
that happened, yes.
291
00:14:19,859 --> 00:14:22,561
She sounded very frightened,
very scared.
292
00:14:22,661 --> 00:14:25,297
She didn't wanna be
in that house until I came home.
293
00:14:25,397 --> 00:14:28,067
I was afraid for my baby,
I was afraid for me,
294
00:14:28,167 --> 00:14:31,503
because if it was just
targeting me and hurting me,
295
00:14:31,604 --> 00:14:33,606
I was afraid
it was gonna hurt my son too.
296
00:14:33,706 --> 00:14:38,143
We needed to find
somebody that could help us.
297
00:14:38,244 --> 00:14:40,646
The couple reached out
to paranormal investigator
298
00:14:40,746 --> 00:14:42,014
Jack Kenna.
299
00:14:43,215 --> 00:14:44,884
My impression of them
over the phone was that
300
00:14:44,984 --> 00:14:46,986
they were very sincere,
very genuine.
301
00:14:47,086 --> 00:14:48,520
I told him about the bruises,
302
00:14:48,621 --> 00:14:50,823
I told him
about the dark figure.
303
00:14:50,923 --> 00:14:52,558
During the investigation
when we got there,
304
00:14:52,658 --> 00:14:53,959
we spoke to the clients,
305
00:14:54,059 --> 00:14:55,628
we started setting up
our equipment.
306
00:14:55,728 --> 00:14:56,929
There's a green dot
on there.
307
00:14:57,029 --> 00:14:59,698
I got a device here,
it's day two.
308
00:14:59,798 --> 00:15:01,734
We have a few devices we use.
309
00:15:02,868 --> 00:15:04,036
I have a tablet that I use
310
00:15:04,136 --> 00:15:07,172
that's, again, application
called Ghost Radar.
311
00:15:07,273 --> 00:15:08,874
They left for the evening.
312
00:15:08,974 --> 00:15:12,311
And then we started to
try to interact
313
00:15:12,411 --> 00:15:14,046
with whatever
might be there.
314
00:15:14,146 --> 00:15:16,815
I felt like, "Great,
he's gonna do something for me,
315
00:15:16,916 --> 00:15:18,951
he's gonna take care
of this."
316
00:15:19,051 --> 00:15:20,486
And I was excited
to see him.
317
00:15:38,871 --> 00:15:42,141
We sat down,
we started talking
318
00:15:42,241 --> 00:15:43,976
and just asking questions,
you know?
319
00:15:44,076 --> 00:15:44,977
"Who's here with us,
320
00:15:45,077 --> 00:15:46,645
is there anybody around here
with us?"
321
00:16:03,829 --> 00:16:06,865
And I suddenly started getting
a strong heavy feeling.
322
00:16:06,966 --> 00:16:08,667
The room was light
when we first walked in,
323
00:16:08,767 --> 00:16:10,402
but I got a very heaviness.
324
00:16:11,537 --> 00:16:12,638
And the room
seemed to be getting harder
325
00:16:12,738 --> 00:16:14,239
to breathe in,
which is usually an indication
326
00:16:14,340 --> 00:16:16,208
that something
might be going on.
327
00:16:23,549 --> 00:16:25,584
We noticed a blip,
328
00:16:25,684 --> 00:16:27,820
which usually indicates
some type of energy,
329
00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,389
could be spirit energy,
could be something else.
330
00:16:30,489 --> 00:16:32,825
Devices can be used
for spirit communication
331
00:16:32,925 --> 00:16:34,960
in which an entity
or a human spirit
332
00:16:35,060 --> 00:16:37,029
can manipulate
the energy levels
333
00:16:37,129 --> 00:16:38,964
to provide
yes or no answers.
334
00:16:57,750 --> 00:17:01,520
My psychic friend told me that
she felt it was a male figure,
335
00:17:01,620 --> 00:17:04,323
very strong male figure
in the house,
336
00:17:04,423 --> 00:17:06,392
negative individual.
337
00:17:06,492 --> 00:17:09,895
Uh, he was not a very
nice person when he was alive,
338
00:17:09,995 --> 00:17:12,831
didn't like women.
339
00:17:12,931 --> 00:17:15,401
Was an abuser.
340
00:17:15,501 --> 00:17:17,569
He was still there
and felt he owned the house,
341
00:17:17,669 --> 00:17:20,139
the house was his
and nobody else should be there.
342
00:17:20,239 --> 00:17:22,708
But at the same time,
you know,
343
00:17:22,808 --> 00:17:26,412
he was attracted to the energy
of Shlisa.
344
00:17:33,485 --> 00:17:35,387
(Beeps)
345
00:17:35,487 --> 00:17:37,156
Yes.
346
00:17:37,256 --> 00:17:38,724
The response was, "Yes".
347
00:17:49,401 --> 00:17:52,104
Another EVP device
includes taking measurements
348
00:17:52,204 --> 00:17:53,972
from the environment
such as temperature,
349
00:17:54,073 --> 00:17:55,441
the barometric pressure.
350
00:17:55,541 --> 00:17:58,143
And assigns those numbers
to a word
351
00:17:58,243 --> 00:17:59,578
out of a word database.
352
00:17:59,678 --> 00:18:02,147
And so it's believed that
the spirit can actually generate
353
00:18:02,247 --> 00:18:05,784
conversation or words
in context with the investigator
354
00:18:05,884 --> 00:18:07,853
by manipulating
their environment.
355
00:18:07,953 --> 00:18:09,688
And that was on the ghost radar
and I said,
356
00:18:09,788 --> 00:18:12,157
"Well, no,
you can't do that.
357
00:18:12,257 --> 00:18:14,593
That's wrong,
you can't do that."
358
00:18:19,965 --> 00:18:23,068
We caught an EVP
with a male voice saying,
359
00:18:23,168 --> 00:18:24,336
"I can."
360
00:18:24,436 --> 00:18:27,339
EVP stands for
Electronic Voice Phenomenon.
361
00:18:27,439 --> 00:18:31,143
This is when people capture
disembodied voices of the dead.
362
00:18:35,514 --> 00:18:36,748
And at that point,
we kinda knew
363
00:18:36,849 --> 00:18:39,985
it's trying to take her energy
from her, which is never good.
364
00:18:40,085 --> 00:18:41,587
You can't do that.
365
00:18:46,125 --> 00:18:48,994
We got back to the house
around 12:00, midnight,
366
00:18:49,094 --> 00:18:50,496
Jack came in the living room
and says,
367
00:18:50,596 --> 00:18:51,897
"You know,
I usually don't do this,
368
00:18:51,997 --> 00:18:54,032
but I'm gonna sit down
and tell you
369
00:18:54,133 --> 00:18:58,170
they did catch some EVPs
and voices on the recording."
370
00:19:03,175 --> 00:19:04,143
All of a sudden,
371
00:19:04,243 --> 00:19:05,177
you hear the voice
in the background say,
372
00:19:05,277 --> 00:19:06,378
"Get out!"
373
00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,749
And it was very shocking.
374
00:19:10,849 --> 00:19:14,119
The other one was
about the energy.
375
00:19:14,219 --> 00:19:17,189
When he said, Jack told him,
"No, you can't have her energy."
376
00:19:20,893 --> 00:19:22,394
And what was your reaction?
377
00:19:22,494 --> 00:19:23,695
It was of relief.
378
00:19:23,795 --> 00:19:26,098
I was very relieved that
379
00:19:26,198 --> 00:19:27,733
there was actually
something there.
380
00:19:27,833 --> 00:19:31,136
And it just took a big weight
off my shoulder to see,
381
00:19:31,236 --> 00:19:33,172
"Okay,
somebody else has seen it,
382
00:19:33,272 --> 00:19:35,374
somebody else has heard it."
383
00:19:35,474 --> 00:19:38,477
They're happy to know that,
"Okay, you know, good.
384
00:19:38,577 --> 00:19:41,413
We at least really know now
that we're not crazy,
385
00:19:41,513 --> 00:19:43,448
we're not imagining this."
386
00:19:43,549 --> 00:19:45,884
At the same time,
it can make you very nervous.
387
00:19:45,984 --> 00:19:47,920
I was kind of overwhelmed.
388
00:19:48,020 --> 00:19:49,955
There was a dark, dark figure
that was trying to steal
389
00:19:50,055 --> 00:19:52,324
all my baby's energy
and my wife's energy.
390
00:19:52,424 --> 00:19:54,193
It's always kind of
a double edge story.
391
00:19:55,794 --> 00:19:57,529
Hearing the voice
of the ghost
392
00:19:57,629 --> 00:19:59,631
seemed to bring
the terrifying events
393
00:19:59,731 --> 00:20:01,066
to a new level.
394
00:20:02,267 --> 00:20:03,368
I was laying down
395
00:20:03,468 --> 00:20:06,405
and all of the sudden,
the blankets came around me.
396
00:20:06,505 --> 00:20:21,753
(♪♪♪)
397
00:20:24,089 --> 00:20:32,397
(♪♪♪)
398
00:20:32,497 --> 00:20:34,633
Brian Rodrigues
and Shlisa Karvelas
399
00:20:34,733 --> 00:20:37,002
had been experiencing
paranormal phenomenon
400
00:20:37,102 --> 00:20:38,403
in their new apartment.
401
00:20:38,503 --> 00:20:43,375
(♪♪♪)
402
00:20:43,475 --> 00:20:44,977
After calling in
an investigator
403
00:20:45,077 --> 00:20:47,179
to help them make sense
of the events,
404
00:20:47,279 --> 00:20:49,448
they heard the voice
of the entity tell them
405
00:20:49,548 --> 00:20:51,950
it wanted to possess Shlisa.
406
00:20:52,050 --> 00:20:54,052
That's not good.
407
00:20:57,189 --> 00:20:58,323
I was laying down
408
00:20:58,423 --> 00:21:01,226
and all of the sudden,
the blankets came around me.
409
00:21:01,326 --> 00:21:09,601
(♪♪♪)
410
00:21:09,701 --> 00:21:11,570
And wrapped me up
basically like a burrito.
411
00:21:11,670 --> 00:21:13,572
I couldn't get out,
I couldn't move,
412
00:21:13,672 --> 00:21:16,241
I tried fighting my way out,
there was no way.
413
00:21:16,341 --> 00:21:19,177
About two minutes passed
and all of the sudden,
414
00:21:19,278 --> 00:21:20,746
and the blankets
released me.
415
00:21:23,482 --> 00:21:25,450
I leaned over,
I pointed to the door
416
00:21:25,550 --> 00:21:27,853
and as soon as I opened
my mouth,
417
00:21:27,953 --> 00:21:30,422
"I have her now,
418
00:21:30,522 --> 00:21:34,192
she's mine now."
419
00:21:34,293 --> 00:21:36,828
"I have her now,
she's mine"
420
00:21:36,928 --> 00:21:39,031
was what basically came out
of my mouth.
421
00:21:39,131 --> 00:21:41,033
Something came out
of her mouth,
422
00:21:41,133 --> 00:21:42,234
but it wasn't her voice,
423
00:21:42,334 --> 00:21:46,371
saying,
"She's mine now."
424
00:21:46,471 --> 00:21:47,873
"She's mine now."
425
00:21:50,342 --> 00:21:52,010
I didn't have control
of what I was saying.
426
00:21:54,146 --> 00:21:56,581
Demonic entities
can temporarily possess people
427
00:21:56,682 --> 00:21:58,116
and speak through them.
428
00:21:58,216 --> 00:22:00,952
Or they're sometimes
more prolonged possessions.
429
00:22:01,053 --> 00:22:01,953
But basically,
430
00:22:02,054 --> 00:22:03,855
an entity is able
to take over the body,
431
00:22:03,955 --> 00:22:06,358
the emotions,
the mind of a person,
432
00:22:06,458 --> 00:22:07,659
the victim
433
00:22:07,759 --> 00:22:11,363
and use that body to manipulate
and generate different words
434
00:22:11,463 --> 00:22:14,533
or communicate a message
to the rest of the people there.
435
00:22:14,633 --> 00:22:17,836
I don't remember saying it,
I don't remember getting up,
436
00:22:17,936 --> 00:22:20,105
I don't remember
waking him up.
437
00:22:20,205 --> 00:22:22,808
Not being in control
made me very, very frightened
438
00:22:22,908 --> 00:22:25,477
that I was eventually gonna
hurt somebody or something
439
00:22:25,577 --> 00:22:26,945
and I couldn't control it.
440
00:22:27,045 --> 00:22:29,981
And that's not how
I wanna live my life anymore.
441
00:22:30,082 --> 00:22:32,284
I was very, very scared
out of my wits.
442
00:22:32,384 --> 00:22:34,486
Because if he could do that
to try and hurt me,
443
00:22:34,586 --> 00:22:36,388
he's hurting my baby too.
444
00:22:36,488 --> 00:22:40,325
And I didn't know what to do
at that point in time.
445
00:22:40,425 --> 00:22:42,561
The one person
the couple thought could help
446
00:22:42,661 --> 00:22:45,230
was paranormal investigator
Jack Kenna.
447
00:22:46,398 --> 00:22:48,266
I went back to their home
448
00:22:48,367 --> 00:22:52,604
and I decided to try
a new technique
449
00:22:52,704 --> 00:22:55,907
to look for portals
within the home.
450
00:22:56,007 --> 00:22:57,976
If you're near a portal,
it'll start to swing.
451
00:22:58,076 --> 00:23:00,812
It'll kinda give you
a direction of the portal,
452
00:23:00,912 --> 00:23:03,515
it'll let you know it's there,
and it'll swing like a pendulum.
453
00:23:03,615 --> 00:23:04,783
And if it's very strong,
454
00:23:04,883 --> 00:23:08,754
it'll swing very quickly
and very obviously.
455
00:23:08,854 --> 00:23:15,627
(♪♪♪)
456
00:23:15,727 --> 00:23:18,597
I found several portals,
many portals within the home,
457
00:23:18,697 --> 00:23:20,165
more than I expected.
458
00:23:20,265 --> 00:23:21,366
I found about 18.
459
00:23:21,466 --> 00:23:27,072
(♪♪♪)
460
00:23:27,172 --> 00:23:29,207
In this particular case,
these were spirit portals
461
00:23:29,307 --> 00:23:32,577
where spirits can come in
and out of.
462
00:23:32,677 --> 00:23:35,647
And the fact that the apartment
was empty for so long,
463
00:23:35,747 --> 00:23:37,382
before they moved in,
464
00:23:37,482 --> 00:23:41,086
would only make that entity
feel more that it's his.
465
00:23:41,186 --> 00:23:43,388
And whatever is in there
it's his.
466
00:23:43,488 --> 00:23:45,824
And that's never
a good thing.
467
00:23:48,193 --> 00:23:50,195
So what I envisioned
is a torn piece of fabric
468
00:23:50,295 --> 00:23:53,231
with light coming through it
and I would sew it closed.
469
00:23:53,331 --> 00:23:56,067
And you do that
to every single one.
470
00:23:56,168 --> 00:24:00,038
(♪♪♪)
471
00:24:00,138 --> 00:24:02,507
I also talk to the spirits
that are there
472
00:24:02,607 --> 00:24:03,608
and say, you know,
473
00:24:03,708 --> 00:24:05,210
"Anything negative
has to leave.
474
00:24:05,310 --> 00:24:06,578
You can't stay here,
you have to go,"
475
00:24:06,678 --> 00:24:08,880
especially the male figure.
476
00:24:08,980 --> 00:24:12,150
And when I started closing
these portals,
477
00:24:12,250 --> 00:24:14,820
there was a lot of activity
happening at first.
478
00:24:19,424 --> 00:24:21,893
And then, nothing.
479
00:24:24,196 --> 00:24:25,297
Jack was confident,
480
00:24:25,397 --> 00:24:27,165
the spirits would no longer
be able to access
481
00:24:27,265 --> 00:24:29,534
Brian and Shlisa's home.
482
00:24:29,634 --> 00:24:32,137
But the whole experience
was just too frightening
483
00:24:32,237 --> 00:24:33,638
for the couple.
484
00:24:35,006 --> 00:24:36,107
So we thought
the best thing would be
485
00:24:36,208 --> 00:24:37,876
just to leave.
486
00:24:37,976 --> 00:24:39,311
Even if we had
nowhere else to go,
487
00:24:39,411 --> 00:24:41,980
it'd be better than dealing
with this every single day.
488
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,749
Hopefully it doesn't follow us,
you know?
489
00:24:44,850 --> 00:24:46,251
If it follow us,
490
00:24:46,351 --> 00:24:50,455
then I'm in the whole
line of (Bleeped) again.
491
00:24:50,555 --> 00:24:52,524
Excuse my French.
492
00:24:52,624 --> 00:24:55,293
You know, but yeah.
493
00:24:55,393 --> 00:24:57,762
I just hope
it doesn't follow us.
494
00:24:57,863 --> 00:24:58,897
If it doesn't follow us,
495
00:24:58,997 --> 00:25:01,066
I'd be happy anywhere else.
496
00:25:01,166 --> 00:25:03,702
Let it stay there,
you know?
497
00:25:07,105 --> 00:25:09,274
After moving out
of their Pawtucket home,
498
00:25:09,374 --> 00:25:12,410
the paranormal events ended
for Shlisa and Brian.
499
00:25:16,147 --> 00:25:18,717
Electronic voice phenomenon
is just one method
500
00:25:18,817 --> 00:25:21,486
an entity can use to speak
with the physical world.
501
00:25:23,455 --> 00:25:27,626
Séances and spirits boards
can also allow the dead to talk.
502
00:25:30,595 --> 00:25:34,599
(Typing)
503
00:25:38,837 --> 00:25:39,771
Mark.
504
00:25:39,871 --> 00:25:54,886
(♪♪♪)
505
00:25:54,986 --> 00:25:56,521
Trevor and I,
we both met each other
506
00:25:56,621 --> 00:25:57,822
actually over the internet.
507
00:25:57,923 --> 00:25:59,858
We've been together
for four years.
508
00:25:59,958 --> 00:26:02,027
But eventually,
we decided to move in together.
509
00:26:02,127 --> 00:26:06,665
So we start looking online
and I found this house.
510
00:26:08,099 --> 00:26:11,436
One that just stood out to us
for some reason.
511
00:26:11,536 --> 00:26:12,938
I fell in love
with the location,
512
00:26:13,038 --> 00:26:14,806
I was like,
"Okay, this feels like home."
513
00:26:18,176 --> 00:26:21,580
When we first went to visit
for the viewing for the house--
514
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,082
First location
was the basement.
515
00:26:24,182 --> 00:26:26,818
The feeling when I first walked
down was--
516
00:26:26,918 --> 00:26:29,020
there was definitely
some odd energy downstairs.
517
00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:31,556
It wasn't like
an open airy space.
518
00:26:31,656 --> 00:26:36,661
(♪♪♪)
519
00:26:36,761 --> 00:26:39,731
The first thing you notice
is this big old cistern.
520
00:26:42,434 --> 00:26:45,036
It's actually a well
that's indoors.
521
00:26:45,136 --> 00:26:46,271
And in the old days,
522
00:26:46,371 --> 00:26:48,707
they would use that well
for storing water
523
00:26:48,807 --> 00:26:51,876
either from the eaves troughs
off the roof going directly in
524
00:26:51,977 --> 00:26:55,547
or even putting snow
from the winter inside to melt.
525
00:26:55,647 --> 00:26:58,683
It was really odd
when I went down there first,
526
00:26:58,783 --> 00:27:00,352
because it's not something
that you would expect
527
00:27:00,452 --> 00:27:01,553
to see down there.
528
00:27:04,823 --> 00:27:07,325
The presence of a cistern
in there just gave it--
529
00:27:07,425 --> 00:27:08,460
like you're wondering,
530
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,495
"What's beyond that point?"
kinda feeling.
531
00:27:10,595 --> 00:27:13,231
You're just not quite sure
why there's a darkness
532
00:27:13,331 --> 00:27:14,699
in that back corner area.
533
00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:24,809
(♪♪♪)
534
00:27:26,845 --> 00:27:36,287
(♪♪♪)
535
00:27:36,388 --> 00:27:39,290
Trevor Bishop and Mark Larocque
had found a house they loved
536
00:27:39,391 --> 00:27:40,892
and moved in together.
537
00:27:42,193 --> 00:27:43,728
But a spooky cistern
in the basement
538
00:27:43,828 --> 00:27:45,563
was giving off
negative energy
539
00:27:45,664 --> 00:27:48,500
and filling them
with a sense of dread.
540
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,902
Like you're wondering,
"What's beyond that point?"
541
00:27:52,704 --> 00:27:55,573
So we had an incident happen
the first day that--
542
00:27:55,674 --> 00:27:56,841
After we moved in,
543
00:27:56,941 --> 00:27:58,777
I was heading off to work
in the morning.
544
00:27:58,877 --> 00:27:59,844
Right when we woke up,
545
00:27:59,944 --> 00:28:01,613
Trevor was looking
for the car keys.
546
00:28:01,713 --> 00:28:03,748
And I couldn't find them
anywhere.
547
00:28:03,848 --> 00:28:21,566
(♪♪♪)
548
00:28:21,666 --> 00:28:23,968
I asked Mark to look around
downstairs for me.
549
00:28:24,069 --> 00:28:36,314
(♪♪♪)
550
00:28:36,414 --> 00:28:37,415
We looked around,
551
00:28:37,515 --> 00:28:38,983
it must've been
for 10 or 15 minutes straight.
552
00:28:39,084 --> 00:28:41,086
And we could not find them
anywhere.
553
00:28:41,186 --> 00:28:42,620
Finally, Mark has enough.
554
00:28:42,721 --> 00:28:43,722
And I said,
"That's it.
555
00:28:43,822 --> 00:28:45,523
Put the keys back
right where you got them."
556
00:28:45,623 --> 00:28:50,261
(♪♪♪)
557
00:28:50,361 --> 00:28:52,731
And then same spot that
we'd tracked a couple of times,
558
00:28:52,831 --> 00:28:54,532
the keys were sitting
right there.
559
00:28:54,632 --> 00:28:57,302
I precisely know
I looked at that spot.
560
00:28:59,170 --> 00:29:01,706
There's numerous reasons
why a spirit might apport
561
00:29:01,806 --> 00:29:04,676
or manipulate or remove items
from a household.
562
00:29:04,776 --> 00:29:07,178
Typically, it's to get
the homeowners' attention
563
00:29:07,278 --> 00:29:09,280
because maybe
that spirit wants help
564
00:29:09,380 --> 00:29:12,050
or to engage
and interact with those people.
565
00:29:12,150 --> 00:29:13,985
Or sometimes,
a spirit might just have
566
00:29:14,085 --> 00:29:15,954
a certain affinity
for an object.
567
00:29:18,890 --> 00:29:20,625
The house
was holding more secrets
568
00:29:20,725 --> 00:29:23,061
for Mark and Trevor
to uncover.
569
00:29:25,997 --> 00:29:27,966
One night,
I was using the washroom.
570
00:29:31,369 --> 00:29:34,139
And all of a sudden,
I just heard...
571
00:29:34,239 --> 00:29:38,243
(Creaking)
572
00:29:42,147 --> 00:29:43,314
I thought it was Mark,
actually,
573
00:29:43,414 --> 00:29:45,850
because it was around 9:00
at night
574
00:29:45,950 --> 00:29:48,620
and that's the time sometimes
he goes to bed at.
575
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,655
I thought
maybe he was carrying our cat,
576
00:29:50,755 --> 00:29:52,357
coming up the stairs,
going slowly,
577
00:29:52,457 --> 00:29:56,427
taking one step at a time like,
step, step, step.
578
00:29:56,528 --> 00:29:59,964
I wanted to double-check to see
if that noise I heard
579
00:30:00,064 --> 00:30:01,199
was Mark or not.
580
00:30:01,299 --> 00:30:21,219
(♪♪♪)
581
00:30:21,319 --> 00:30:24,422
(♪♪♪)
582
00:30:24,522 --> 00:30:25,557
Went downstairs
583
00:30:25,657 --> 00:30:27,792
and asked Mark
if that was him, of course.
584
00:30:27,892 --> 00:30:29,794
Yeah, I'm actually sitting down
in the living room
585
00:30:29,894 --> 00:30:32,230
and Trevor came out
and had said,
586
00:30:32,330 --> 00:30:34,165
"Was that you
climbing up the stairs?"
587
00:30:34,265 --> 00:30:35,567
And I turned around
and said,
588
00:30:35,667 --> 00:30:37,569
"No, I've been down here
all this time
589
00:30:37,669 --> 00:30:39,103
watching television."
590
00:30:41,239 --> 00:30:42,907
It couldn't have been him,
because there was no time
591
00:30:43,007 --> 00:30:44,976
for him to get from downstairs
to upstairs
592
00:30:45,076 --> 00:30:46,845
in the time
I came out of the washroom, so.
593
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,450
The basement remained
a source of bizarre events.
594
00:30:52,550 --> 00:30:54,319
When we first
were checking out
595
00:30:54,419 --> 00:30:56,487
the cold room in our basement
once we moved in,
596
00:30:56,588 --> 00:30:57,622
and we noticed
597
00:30:57,722 --> 00:30:59,424
there was an odd sort of
feeling downstairs.
598
00:30:59,524 --> 00:31:09,701
(♪♪♪)
599
00:31:09,801 --> 00:31:14,439
There was an energy presence
that was trying to push me back.
600
00:31:14,539 --> 00:31:17,108
But I could still feel
the energy right there.
601
00:31:17,208 --> 00:31:23,882
(♪♪♪)
602
00:31:23,982 --> 00:31:26,851
Just more of less the feel,
hands pushing me back
603
00:31:26,951 --> 00:31:28,386
and trying to push me
up the stairs saying,
604
00:31:28,486 --> 00:31:30,455
"Okay, you're not welcome."
605
00:31:30,555 --> 00:31:33,758
It felt like a bunch of energy
just coming right at you.
606
00:31:35,693 --> 00:31:36,828
They say,
"If picking you up
607
00:31:36,928 --> 00:31:37,896
and throwing knocks you
off your feet,
608
00:31:37,996 --> 00:31:39,030
you're landing 10 feet back."
609
00:31:39,130 --> 00:31:42,033
That's exactly
what I was feeling.
610
00:31:42,133 --> 00:31:44,636
Almost as if somebody
was down there sort of
611
00:31:44,736 --> 00:31:48,573
either watching you
or just some odd kinda energy
612
00:31:48,673 --> 00:31:51,576
coming from that back area
where the cold room is.
613
00:31:51,676 --> 00:31:53,144
It was saying,
"Don't come downstairs,
614
00:31:53,244 --> 00:31:54,479
do not come downstairs."
615
00:31:54,579 --> 00:32:02,120
(♪♪♪)
616
00:32:02,220 --> 00:32:04,589
There was one incident, though,
I was downstairs with Trevor.
617
00:32:09,193 --> 00:32:12,697
We were cleaning up our tent
that we actually had outside
618
00:32:12,797 --> 00:32:14,432
and we brought it back in.
619
00:32:14,532 --> 00:32:17,268
So I was busy folding that up,
putting it away.
620
00:32:19,404 --> 00:32:24,309
While I was doing the laundry,
I was facing the cistern
621
00:32:24,409 --> 00:32:26,344
and it feels like
somebody's down there
622
00:32:26,444 --> 00:32:27,912
sort of watching you.
623
00:32:31,049 --> 00:32:33,518
I was feeling this kind of
presence though that--
624
00:32:33,618 --> 00:32:35,186
You gotta look up
625
00:32:35,286 --> 00:32:38,456
and look over towards
the cold room door.
626
00:32:40,224 --> 00:32:42,193
That's when he noticed
the activity coming
627
00:32:42,293 --> 00:32:44,629
from the door
to our cold room.
628
00:32:44,729 --> 00:32:56,140
(♪♪♪)
629
00:32:58,176 --> 00:33:07,018
(♪♪♪)
630
00:33:07,118 --> 00:33:10,521
Trevor Bishop and Mark Larocque
have bought their dream home.
631
00:33:10,621 --> 00:33:12,357
(Creaking)
632
00:33:12,457 --> 00:33:14,826
But after moving in,
they found themselves plagued
633
00:33:14,926 --> 00:33:18,062
by evermore terrifying
ghostly phenomenon.
634
00:33:18,162 --> 00:33:19,964
That's when he noticed
the activity coming
635
00:33:20,064 --> 00:33:22,367
from the door
to our cold room.
636
00:33:22,467 --> 00:33:30,174
(♪♪♪)
637
00:33:30,274 --> 00:33:34,245
I saw this hand reaching out,
trying to reach towards Trevor
638
00:33:34,345 --> 00:33:36,347
whilst Trevor was backwards
towards it.
639
00:33:36,447 --> 00:33:42,353
(♪♪♪)
640
00:33:42,453 --> 00:33:44,188
And all of a sudden,
it went back in.
641
00:33:44,288 --> 00:33:55,366
(♪♪♪)
642
00:33:55,466 --> 00:33:57,035
Frustrated
and unable to explain
643
00:33:57,135 --> 00:33:58,970
the odd events
in their new home,
644
00:33:59,070 --> 00:34:02,407
Mark and Trevor contacted
a medium friend, Jen.
645
00:34:03,708 --> 00:34:06,077
I am a ordained
spiritualist minister
646
00:34:06,177 --> 00:34:07,612
in the province
of Ontario.
647
00:34:07,712 --> 00:34:10,014
So I do weddings and funerals,
those sorts of things,
648
00:34:10,114 --> 00:34:12,717
but then I also have a passion
for physical mediumship.
649
00:34:12,817 --> 00:34:14,752
And work with individuals
to bring them comfort,
650
00:34:14,852 --> 00:34:16,754
bringing their loved ones
that have passed through,
651
00:34:16,854 --> 00:34:18,923
so that they know that
they're not on this earth plane,
652
00:34:19,023 --> 00:34:20,725
but they still are
in the continuum.
653
00:34:20,825 --> 00:34:22,260
And that they support them,
and love them,
654
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,495
and that at some point
will be reunited with them.
655
00:34:24,595 --> 00:34:27,532
So she's a very open person
to everything paranormal,
656
00:34:27,632 --> 00:34:31,702
spiritual,
and she's very accurate as well,
657
00:34:31,803 --> 00:34:33,471
because she is a medium too.
658
00:34:33,571 --> 00:34:35,706
The house was built
in the 1920s.
659
00:34:35,807 --> 00:34:39,710
It is a brick house
and on a limestone foundation.
660
00:34:39,811 --> 00:34:42,346
It's about a stone's throw
from the Grand River,
661
00:34:42,447 --> 00:34:44,382
so you have
continually running of water,
662
00:34:44,482 --> 00:34:45,850
which puts out negative ions,
663
00:34:45,950 --> 00:34:47,718
which allows spirits
to come forth.
664
00:34:47,819 --> 00:34:49,253
And it has a cistern
in the basement,
665
00:34:49,353 --> 00:34:51,756
which again when you have
energy constantly moving
666
00:34:51,856 --> 00:34:54,025
is another way for a spirit
to be able to manifest.
667
00:34:58,096 --> 00:35:00,031
Determined
to help Trevor and Mark,
668
00:35:00,131 --> 00:35:02,333
Jen started looking
for uninvited spirits
669
00:35:02,433 --> 00:35:04,001
in their home.
670
00:35:04,102 --> 00:35:06,270
I'd had sensed that
there was something upstairs.
671
00:35:11,709 --> 00:35:14,712
Since it's an active house...
672
00:35:14,812 --> 00:35:17,515
you can also pick up energies
in a house of people
673
00:35:17,615 --> 00:35:18,816
that's an imprint.
674
00:35:18,916 --> 00:35:20,685
So lots of sort of memories
in a house doesn't mean
675
00:35:20,785 --> 00:35:22,153
that it's haunted
or that there are spirits.
676
00:35:22,253 --> 00:35:24,922
But there's definitely sort of
many years of family memories
677
00:35:25,022 --> 00:35:26,791
that are in that house as well.
678
00:35:26,891 --> 00:35:27,959
Is there anyone here?
679
00:35:28,059 --> 00:35:35,299
(♪♪♪)
680
00:35:35,399 --> 00:35:39,737
A little girl, blonde,
curly hair, big blue eyes.
681
00:35:39,837 --> 00:35:42,039
And she was coughing
and she still had that fever.
682
00:35:42,140 --> 00:35:43,908
So she was showing me that
that's how she'd passed away.
683
00:35:44,008 --> 00:35:45,176
It felt like
either scarlet fever
684
00:35:45,276 --> 00:35:48,246
or like a typhoid
or something like that
685
00:35:48,346 --> 00:35:49,914
of that sort of period.
686
00:35:50,014 --> 00:35:53,551
1920s, 1930s,
that sort of era of time.
687
00:36:00,224 --> 00:36:01,926
So I said, "Yeah, she used to
go to the attic that way
688
00:36:02,026 --> 00:36:03,761
and that's why
you're hearing sounds
689
00:36:03,861 --> 00:36:05,263
of footsteps."
690
00:36:05,363 --> 00:36:07,865
(Footsteps)
691
00:36:09,100 --> 00:36:10,968
She's in no way, you know,
problematic,
692
00:36:11,068 --> 00:36:12,103
she's just there
693
00:36:12,203 --> 00:36:14,772
and will probably
always be there.
694
00:36:14,872 --> 00:36:17,708
The energy in the basement
would prove to be more
695
00:36:17,808 --> 00:36:18,876
of a challenge.
696
00:36:18,976 --> 00:36:32,657
(♪♪♪)
697
00:36:32,757 --> 00:36:33,824
And as soon as I walked in,
698
00:36:33,925 --> 00:36:36,427
I could smell that swampy
kind of damp.
699
00:36:39,063 --> 00:36:41,065
And I could see
the wet footprints on the floor.
700
00:36:41,165 --> 00:36:45,069
(Footsteps)
701
00:36:45,169 --> 00:36:56,681
(♪♪♪)
702
00:36:56,781 --> 00:36:57,982
So as soon as I walked in,
703
00:36:58,082 --> 00:36:59,116
I knew it
and then he appeared to me.
704
00:36:59,217 --> 00:37:10,161
(♪♪♪)
705
00:37:10,261 --> 00:37:11,696
So I could see him
and he was dripping wet
706
00:37:11,796 --> 00:37:12,997
and he was in,
you know,
707
00:37:13,097 --> 00:37:14,699
clothes that were sort of
100 years old.
708
00:37:17,969 --> 00:37:19,737
He drowned,
because I feel it.
709
00:37:19,837 --> 00:37:21,138
So I could feel water
in my lungs,
710
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:22,373
I started coughing up.
711
00:37:25,076 --> 00:37:27,411
And just knew that
he had drowned quite suddenly
712
00:37:27,511 --> 00:37:29,146
and unexpectedly.
713
00:37:29,247 --> 00:37:30,748
Got him feeling
that he was safe
714
00:37:30,848 --> 00:37:32,917
and that I wasn't trying
to banish him.
715
00:37:33,017 --> 00:37:34,685
What is your name?
716
00:37:36,387 --> 00:37:38,522
Andrew.
717
00:37:40,992 --> 00:37:42,093
I got the name, Andrew.
718
00:37:42,193 --> 00:37:45,096
Jackson.
719
00:37:45,196 --> 00:37:47,999
She was able to pick up
the last name, Jackson.
720
00:37:52,303 --> 00:37:54,071
One of the main reasons
a spirit would actually
721
00:37:54,171 --> 00:37:55,640
verbally communicate
with someone
722
00:37:55,740 --> 00:37:57,708
is often
to share their story
723
00:37:57,808 --> 00:37:59,343
or to get in
a certain message across,
724
00:37:59,443 --> 00:38:01,112
whether they have
unfinished business
725
00:38:01,212 --> 00:38:04,148
or unresolved issues,
maybe from a traumatic death.
726
00:38:04,248 --> 00:38:05,916
Often spirits
will actually reach out
727
00:38:06,017 --> 00:38:07,551
to share
their story verbally.
728
00:38:07,652 --> 00:38:10,554
And so people will experience
auditory phenomenon
729
00:38:10,655 --> 00:38:12,290
with paranormal incidence.
730
00:38:12,390 --> 00:38:13,891
We wanted to do
some research first
731
00:38:13,991 --> 00:38:17,328
to find out more information
on the spirit himself.
732
00:38:17,428 --> 00:38:20,164
And we came across his name
in an article
733
00:38:20,264 --> 00:38:23,968
about a boat accident
that happened back in 1878.
734
00:38:27,004 --> 00:38:29,407
There was about
18 or 20 young people
735
00:38:29,507 --> 00:38:32,243
all around the age
of 20 years old.
736
00:38:32,343 --> 00:38:34,645
They went on what they call
a pleasure cruise in those days,
737
00:38:34,745 --> 00:38:36,580
which was just like
a modified row boat
738
00:38:36,681 --> 00:38:38,182
that had a steam motor in it.
739
00:38:40,351 --> 00:38:41,952
They run into trouble
one evening
740
00:38:42,053 --> 00:38:43,421
that they're out on the water.
741
00:38:43,521 --> 00:38:44,789
And the rudder got stuck.
742
00:38:46,624 --> 00:38:48,526
Instead of turning
away from the dam,
743
00:38:48,626 --> 00:38:50,661
got stuck
and turned right into the dam
744
00:38:50,761 --> 00:38:51,729
and capsized.
745
00:38:51,829 --> 00:38:57,868
(♪♪♪)
746
00:38:57,968 --> 00:39:00,471
Now not all the people perished
on this accident.
747
00:39:00,571 --> 00:39:02,473
The two women
that were with them,
748
00:39:02,573 --> 00:39:04,241
they escaped unharmed.
749
00:39:04,342 --> 00:39:05,343
But unfortunately,
750
00:39:05,443 --> 00:39:08,379
the rest of the men
that were on did perish.
751
00:39:08,479 --> 00:39:09,680
The bodies weren't found,
752
00:39:09,780 --> 00:39:12,016
they all drifted downriver
by the time they went to check.
753
00:39:14,819 --> 00:39:16,854
And Andrew Jackson
was one of these men
754
00:39:16,954 --> 00:39:19,323
that was on the boat
at age 19.
755
00:39:21,459 --> 00:39:22,960
Quite often when you pass
really suddenly
756
00:39:23,060 --> 00:39:24,995
and unexpectedly
you don't realize you're dead.
757
00:39:25,096 --> 00:39:26,330
He felt like he had
a lot of things
758
00:39:26,430 --> 00:39:27,498
he still needed to do.
759
00:39:27,598 --> 00:39:30,067
So was having a really
hard time moving on.
760
00:39:30,167 --> 00:39:33,037
He ended up having family
that owned the property
761
00:39:33,137 --> 00:39:35,005
that we're currently on,
762
00:39:35,106 --> 00:39:39,076
so what we think happened
to our spirit's body is...
763
00:39:41,379 --> 00:39:43,514
...he ended up floating
down the river
764
00:39:43,614 --> 00:39:45,816
and recognized the land
that his family owned,
765
00:39:45,916 --> 00:39:47,184
which was now our property,
766
00:39:47,284 --> 00:39:49,053
and his spirit got off
at our place.
767
00:39:50,521 --> 00:39:52,957
Knowing that Andrew
had really existed,
768
00:39:53,057 --> 00:39:54,425
it spurred the couple on
769
00:39:54,525 --> 00:39:56,093
to take communicating
with the spirits
770
00:39:56,193 --> 00:39:57,561
to the next level.
771
00:39:57,661 --> 00:39:59,430
We wanted to try
and get some evidence
772
00:39:59,530 --> 00:40:02,166
of the spirits that are there
and why they are there.
773
00:40:05,936 --> 00:40:08,205
We had set up
our night vision camera system
774
00:40:08,305 --> 00:40:09,540
in two different places.
775
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,509
We set one up downstairs
776
00:40:11,609 --> 00:40:14,378
and we also set one up
in the attic, upstairs.
777
00:40:14,478 --> 00:40:30,027
(♪♪♪)
778
00:40:30,127 --> 00:40:32,730
In that one camera
that we had upstairs,
779
00:40:32,830 --> 00:40:35,099
we actually got
some activity.
780
00:40:35,199 --> 00:40:44,375
(♪♪♪)
781
00:40:47,077 --> 00:40:56,353
(♪♪♪)
782
00:40:56,454 --> 00:40:58,989
Trevor Bishop and Mark Larocque
had spirits living
783
00:40:59,089 --> 00:41:00,257
in their new home.
784
00:41:00,357 --> 00:41:08,899
(♪♪♪)
785
00:41:08,999 --> 00:41:11,268
In an attempt to communicate
with the paranormal,
786
00:41:11,368 --> 00:41:14,171
they set up recording devices
around the house.
787
00:41:14,271 --> 00:41:16,707
In that one camera
that we had upstairs,
788
00:41:16,807 --> 00:41:19,009
we actually got
some orb activity.
789
00:41:22,513 --> 00:41:25,049
Roughly around 4:00
in the morning,
790
00:41:25,149 --> 00:41:27,818
there was a ball of energy
that came across
791
00:41:27,918 --> 00:41:29,453
actually from
the right-hand-side,
792
00:41:29,553 --> 00:41:30,588
came in front of the camera
793
00:41:30,688 --> 00:41:33,257
and then shot down
towards the stairs.
794
00:41:33,357 --> 00:41:40,965
(♪♪♪)
795
00:41:41,065 --> 00:41:44,568
It went from the camera
all the way to the back
796
00:41:44,668 --> 00:41:47,338
and actually turned the corner
and head down the stairs
797
00:41:47,438 --> 00:41:49,507
towards the stairs
of the attic, so...
798
00:41:49,607 --> 00:41:56,313
(♪♪♪)
799
00:41:56,413 --> 00:41:58,482
This orb did move
in a distinct fashion
800
00:41:58,582 --> 00:42:00,584
that would suggest that
it wasn't dust.
801
00:42:02,620 --> 00:42:04,889
We really wanna find out
more information
802
00:42:04,989 --> 00:42:07,892
about who this spirit is
that is in our basement.
803
00:42:07,992 --> 00:42:10,628
So a séance is an opportunity
for the medium,
804
00:42:10,728 --> 00:42:14,899
which in that case is myself,
to open up and allow a spirit
805
00:42:14,999 --> 00:42:16,300
to come through
and communicate.
806
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:23,474
(♪♪♪)
807
00:42:23,574 --> 00:42:24,642
We had two sceptics.
808
00:42:24,742 --> 00:42:25,843
I always intentionally bring
sceptics
809
00:42:25,943 --> 00:42:28,112
or people that have never sat
in my séances before,
810
00:42:28,212 --> 00:42:29,847
so that you've got
objective people saying,
811
00:42:29,947 --> 00:42:31,515
"Yeah,
I can't explain what happened."
812
00:42:31,615 --> 00:42:33,551
So I think they were really
excited about it.
813
00:42:35,452 --> 00:42:38,389
So we give spirit permission
to use our energetic bodies
814
00:42:38,489 --> 00:42:40,491
in order to come through
and communicate,
815
00:42:40,591 --> 00:42:42,593
and give message, and pass on
whatever information
816
00:42:42,693 --> 00:42:43,827
that they wanna do.
817
00:42:46,597 --> 00:42:47,798
Now she was telling us that
818
00:42:47,898 --> 00:42:50,601
we had these spirits
in our house.
819
00:42:50,701 --> 00:42:54,471
There was a male
and there was a girl, a child.
820
00:42:54,572 --> 00:42:56,740
And today
we have met all of them,
821
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,243
so she's been right on, so.
822
00:43:03,180 --> 00:43:05,316
That was when Andrew
interacted, things moved,
823
00:43:05,416 --> 00:43:06,684
there was banging,
there was sounds,
824
00:43:06,784 --> 00:43:07,985
there was noises,
all that kind of things.
825
00:43:08,085 --> 00:43:10,120
So he was definitely there
and interacting
826
00:43:10,220 --> 00:43:12,156
and gave some feedback
about, you know, things he liked
827
00:43:12,256 --> 00:43:14,358
and he didn't like
and things like that.
828
00:43:14,458 --> 00:43:16,026
We asked him questions.
829
00:43:16,126 --> 00:43:17,728
Andrew, are you happy though
that we're here?
830
00:43:17,828 --> 00:43:19,663
Do you want us to move?
831
00:43:19,763 --> 00:43:21,799
The table actually did shift.
832
00:43:21,899 --> 00:43:23,334
And then
it was pushed actually into me,
833
00:43:23,434 --> 00:43:26,604
basically saying to us,
even to me,
834
00:43:26,704 --> 00:43:29,006
"Don't move,
I want you here."
835
00:43:31,542 --> 00:43:32,443
Andrew was stuck
836
00:43:32,543 --> 00:43:33,978
before we started working
with him.
837
00:43:34,078 --> 00:43:36,013
Now he comes in and out
at will,
838
00:43:36,113 --> 00:43:37,548
because he just wants to see
what's going on.
839
00:43:39,783 --> 00:43:43,287
We believe that Andrew
was looking for some connection.
840
00:43:43,387 --> 00:43:46,857
And we hope that now
that we've done the research,
841
00:43:46,957 --> 00:43:48,392
we've communicated with him,
842
00:43:48,492 --> 00:43:51,161
he knows that we're open
to communicating with him,
843
00:43:51,261 --> 00:43:53,464
that maybe it'll be easier
for him to move on.
844
00:43:53,564 --> 00:43:56,767
And we hope that he is able
to do that now.
845
00:43:56,867 --> 00:44:09,179
(♪♪♪)
846
00:44:09,279 --> 00:44:10,481
This little girl
in their house,
847
00:44:10,581 --> 00:44:11,749
she is just mischievous
and she's lonely.
848
00:44:11,849 --> 00:44:12,750
She doesn't have anyone
to play with,
849
00:44:12,850 --> 00:44:14,318
she doesn't have anything
to play with.
850
00:44:15,552 --> 00:44:16,754
I get the impression too
851
00:44:16,854 --> 00:44:19,456
that her mother
hadn't yet passed.
852
00:44:19,556 --> 00:44:21,425
So I suspect
when her mother passes
853
00:44:21,525 --> 00:44:23,193
that she will then
go along too.
854
00:44:23,293 --> 00:44:25,095
So quite often they'll hang out
and wait
855
00:44:25,195 --> 00:44:26,830
until a parent is passed over
856
00:44:26,930 --> 00:44:28,832
and then that parent
will help then cross them over.
857
00:44:30,868 --> 00:44:32,569
This is like a little kid
that played strange, you know?
858
00:44:32,670 --> 00:44:34,438
It was that sort of feeling
and just she was confused
859
00:44:34,538 --> 00:44:37,441
as to why her mom wouldn't come
and talk to her,
860
00:44:37,541 --> 00:44:38,642
that kind of thing.
861
00:44:41,278 --> 00:44:43,514
I had said to them when I did
a séance at their house,
862
00:44:43,614 --> 00:44:44,682
I said, "Look,
you need to get her a doll
863
00:44:44,782 --> 00:44:45,749
or something to play with."
864
00:44:45,849 --> 00:44:47,818
And since
they've got her a plaything,
865
00:44:47,918 --> 00:44:50,320
it's settled down,
the keys have stopped moving,
866
00:44:50,421 --> 00:44:51,488
stuff has stopped vanishing.
867
00:44:51,588 --> 00:44:54,091
She's still there,
but she's not causing issues
868
00:44:54,191 --> 00:44:55,559
with people being late
869
00:44:55,659 --> 00:44:57,394
and moving keys and things
that are important.
870
00:45:00,130 --> 00:45:02,232
After communicating
with the spirits,
871
00:45:02,332 --> 00:45:04,034
Mark and Trevor
have a new understanding
872
00:45:04,134 --> 00:45:07,237
of their
paranormal encounters.
873
00:45:07,337 --> 00:45:10,140
I think it was more
of a reaching out, just to say--
874
00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:12,276
seeing if they could
reach me.
875
00:45:12,376 --> 00:45:13,844
It was trying
to maybe reach towards me
876
00:45:13,944 --> 00:45:15,512
to say hi.
877
00:45:15,612 --> 00:45:17,514
If it reached me far enough
to touch me,
878
00:45:17,614 --> 00:45:18,749
it may have just
touched my back
879
00:45:18,849 --> 00:45:20,384
like a pat on the back
saying,
880
00:45:20,484 --> 00:45:21,719
"Hey, I'm here."
881
00:45:21,819 --> 00:45:22,953
And that's about it.
882
00:45:23,053 --> 00:45:24,855
It wasn't a negative
like black shadow
883
00:45:24,955 --> 00:45:27,091
or something trying
to take over you
884
00:45:27,191 --> 00:45:28,325
or something like that.
885
00:45:28,425 --> 00:45:30,394
Oftentimes, people have noticed
that paranormal activity
886
00:45:30,494 --> 00:45:32,196
is decreased
when they actually engaged
887
00:45:32,296 --> 00:45:33,297
in conversation
888
00:45:33,397 --> 00:45:35,399
and let the spirit share
their personal story.
889
00:45:35,499 --> 00:45:38,001
Sometimes it's almost as if
their being the psychiatrist
890
00:45:38,102 --> 00:45:39,470
for the spirit
891
00:45:39,570 --> 00:45:41,338
so that they can get something
off their chest
892
00:45:41,438 --> 00:45:43,440
or to be able
to set certain boundaries
893
00:45:43,540 --> 00:45:44,975
with the spirit,
and communicate with them,
894
00:45:45,075 --> 00:45:47,311
and set
those established perimeters.
895
00:45:47,411 --> 00:45:48,579
And a lot of the times
896
00:45:48,679 --> 00:45:50,314
the hauntings
will actually be resolved.
897
00:45:50,414 --> 00:45:53,117
I feel that the spirits
are not negative,
898
00:45:53,217 --> 00:45:55,319
they're not trying to harm us
in any way.
899
00:45:55,419 --> 00:45:57,955
It's not poltergeist activity
or anything like that
900
00:45:58,055 --> 00:46:00,023
that's throwing things,
it's just movement.
901
00:46:00,124 --> 00:46:02,226
They're moving things
to let you know they're around.
902
00:46:02,326 --> 00:46:03,794
And I'm okay with that.
903
00:46:03,894 --> 00:46:06,296
We've come
to a full understanding,
904
00:46:06,396 --> 00:46:08,665
we're here for you,
you guys are here for us.
905
00:46:08,766 --> 00:46:09,933
Let's work together.
906
00:46:10,033 --> 00:46:11,668
As long as
we're not getting harmed
907
00:46:11,769 --> 00:46:13,904
or there's no trouble
from them,
908
00:46:14,004 --> 00:46:15,939
then we're totally fine
having them here.
909
00:46:16,039 --> 00:46:21,011
(♪♪♪)
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