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[Music] Harris County 911. What's
the location of your emergency? I

just killed my sister. Oh my God. Tell
me what your name is. Benjamin Elliott.

OK, tell me exactly what happened. I thought it
was a dream. I I took my knife and I stabbed her.

Please, I don't want her to die. Sorry. How
old is she? 17, we're twins. Is she awake? Yes,

she's like barely alive. Is there anyone else
there in the house with you? There is. It's my

parents, but they're asleep. Okay, I need you
to go wake them up. Mom...Dad? We're going to

have to start CPR right now. 1, 2, 3, 4 ... 1,
2 ... Keep tapping her chest just like that,

OK? Where's your son? Where's your
son? OK. OK. We got ... EMS is coming.

OK, slow down a little bit. 1, 2, 3, 4 ... 1, 2,
3, 4 ... Can we take over? Can you step out? Thank you. What happened? It was

a dream. He said it was a dream, honey. What
the f---. I don't know. I don't know what I'll

do if she dies. It was just a dream and then it wasn't. I'm
going to do a search of you real quick and then

I'm going to put you in the back seat out of this
rain, OK? What was your first reaction when you

heard about the case? I was skeptical. Why does
he have a knife next to his bed at night? This

is the first study that we did on Ben. I'm Dr. Jerald Simmons. I'm a neurologist, sleep disorder

specialist. See, these are rapid eye movements. I
was asked to review the case of Benjamin Elliott.

The claim was that he was sleepwalking and stabbed
his sister. We have a video of him right here. Oh,

there he is. Yeah. OK. You are convinced
this was a sleepwalking incident? Yes. Are

you saying then that he did kill his sister,
but he didn't intend to kill his sister?

I wouldn't say that it's impossible
for someone to commit a crime while

sleepwalking. I just don't think that was
the case with Benjamin Elliott. Were you

able to find any evidence that there
was a problem with these twins? No,

we definitely looked into it and tried. The
biggest thing that they're hanging their hat

on is the lack of motive. My name is Megan
Long. I'm one of the prosecutors on the case.

[Music] So, this is really hard, isn't it,
Mike? I hate this. I hate that she's gone.

This was not Benjamin's fault. I've never
thought of him as somebody responsible

for this. What makes you so sure that
you stabbed your sister while you were

sleepwalking? I would never have done that. I
loved her. She was my best and closest friend.

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On the morning of September 29,
2021, 17-year-old Benjamin Elliott

was in a Harris County Sheriff's interrogation
room in Houston, Texas. So, what happened,

Benjamin? You ever have like a really realistic
nightmare or like just everything feels real,

but also off at the same time. Benjamin told
detective Freder Muñoz that he stabbed his

twin sister once with this knife, but had
little memory of what had happened. So,

you go to sleep. What's the next thing you
remember? The next thing I remember is like

the feeling of stabbing something. I was in
her room and I turned on the light and I was

panicking and I tried to stop bleeding with
the the the pillow. So I run in my room and

I unplugged my phone and I dialed 911. No more.
What's the location of your emergency? I stabbed

my sister. How many times did you stab her? Just
once. I heard the 911 call and I screamed. What's

going on? You what? And I went to go move into the
bedroom. As I moved, I I saw Meghan and she was uh

really She was uh gray. You know, Michael
Elliott remembers calling out to his wife,

Kathy. I I heard Michael yell, "Oh my
God." I was trying to figure out what's

going on and Michael said, "The police are
here. Where's the brother at?" And I just ...

Arriving paramedics took over CPR. They took
Benjamin out of the house. He was shocked.

He said it was a dream. What the What did you
make of that? I don't I mean I just I couldn't

believe it. I mean, I couldn't. Not that Ben
you knew. So, it would have to been that he

was ... Something would have had to happen. Benjamin,
his parents say, sat handcuffed in a police car

for three hours while police confronted with
an apparent homicide took control of the crime

scene. I just want to see her. We can't. No, we
can't see her. Nobody would tell us if Meghan was

OK. What was going on? Take a picture for me.
Let me see something. Can we see something? No,

sir. The Elliotts say they felt isolated by the
police and eventually called a longtime friend

who is also an attorney. He went and got some
information and he told us that Meghan had died.

It was news police didn't share with Benjamin. Is
she OK? Benjamin asked Detective Muñoz several

times if his sister was all right. She is okay.
But the detective withheld the truth. Yeah. Last

time I I know about she was uh being checked out
by the EMS. Authorities say this is a textbook

police technique to keep a suspect talking and
they wanted Benjamin talking about his feelings

for his sister. So, how's your relationship with
Meghan? Good. She's my twin sister. I'd do anything

for her. No rivalry there? No. You guys having
any recent fights or anything like that? No,

we're pretty close for siblings. Benjamin,
who spoke to police without a lawyer,

said he loved his sister and described what
he says he remembered before the stabbing.

Phone records show he was scrolling the
web. And Benjamin says he thinks he fell

asleep somewhere around 2:30 or 3:30 in the
morning. Where would that phone be at right

now? Somewhere at the crime scene. Benjamin
provided Munoz with his iPhone password and

permission to search his phone. Have you ever
been diagnosed with any mental illnesses? No.

Benjamin said there were no problems at home and
said that he was looking forward to college. I'm

thinking about mechanical engineering. I'm
taking the SAT I think Friday. No, Saturday.

And let me ask you, the knife that you had in
your hands, where'd you get it from? From my

dad. He had given it to me that day. It was like
an Air Force survival knife. I was really enamored

with it. Benjamin and Meghan's parents had a big
collection of knives and gear. The family is big

into camping. Kathy is senior manager with the
Girl Scouts of America. Michael is a stay-at-home

dad. I know that if I had not given him that
knife, this would not have happened. And um

after 2 hours in that interrogation room,
at 11 a.m., Munoz finally revealed that

Meghan was dead. I deserve that.
Meghan did not make it. [Music]

He and Meghan are so close, you could never picture
anything bad happening between them. Longtime

friend Drue Whittecar was stunned to learn Benjamin
was in police custody. He was very protective of

her. She says her family and the Elliotts have
been closed since 2005. Ben was very engineering

focused. Whitaker, herself an engineer, described
Benjamin as soft-spoken, smart, funny, and a bit

nerdy. While Megan was sensitive, wrote poetry,
and loved to draw. As a teenager, Meghan had been

diagnosed with autism. And how did she feel about
Ben? She loved him. She looked up to him. You

would see her walk up next to him when she would
feel uncomfortable and just kind of stand by him.

Did he ever get tired of having to take care
of Megan? I think he was proud of it. Like he

liked he liked being a protector. The Elliotts
say the twins seemed happy in the weeks before

the stabbing. With their eldest child, Elizabeth,
already off at college. The twins toured separate

universities. Meghan at this point had started
coming out of her shell as well. She was finding

her voice and she had found friends online and
she had a YouTube channel where she was doing art.

The night before Megan's death, father and son
spent hours playing popular video games such as

Survive the Nights. It was in that video game that
Benjamin noticed a military-style knife that his

father said resembled one that he owned. Michael
offered to give it to Benjamin. Unfortunately,

I went and got the knife out. The Elliotts
remember heading off to bed. Was there any,

you know, any problem at all between the twins?
The Elliotts, like police, couldn't make sense

of why Benjamin stabbed Meghan, but police had the
teenager's confession, the bloody knife he used,

along with a disturbing detail discovered at
autopsy. Megan hadn't been stabbed just once.

She had two stab wounds. Benjamin Elliott was
charged with the murder of his twin sister.

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After several days on suicide watch, 17-year-old
Benjamin Elliott was released on bail.

His parents were there waiting for him. I saw
them put him out and he just kind of stood there

on the sidewalk and I - sorry, it's OK. I went
up to him and and he seemed I told him I said,

"Hey, Ben." You know, and and he seemed like
like he didn't see me. He's surprised to see

me. [Music] We started driving and we we were
asking him if he was OK and we were getting

very, very quiet ... quiet like, you know, single
word answers. So Michael pulls the car over

um and stops and and gets up comes around and
takes his face in his hands and he says he's

like, "Hi, we love you. Hi." And he just, yeah.
And I saw him kind of I was sort of awake.

[Music] And then he just hugged us. Yeah. The
Elliotts knew they could never sleep in their

home again and had already moved in with Kathy's
mother. Ben was worried that he might walk around.

He was worried that he might do something and
he wanted to make sure everybody was safe. The

Elliotts were worried, too. The first two nights I
slept in a chair. Yeah. In front of the door. The

couple even installed an alarm on Benjamin's door.
Because his attorneys had asked them not to speak

with their son about the night Meghan was killed.
They couldn't ask him the burning question,

why? There's never been anything wrong with him
at all. My bandwidth was a mental health

something. Kathy's father was schizophrenic. She
now feared her son might be. So did Benjamin's

lawyers, Wes Rucker and Cary Hart. So we had a
psychiatrist sit down with him. I fully expected

her to come back and say he's got schizophrenia
or he's severely bipolar. When she calls me up,

she said, "Wes, he's fine." It blew my mind.
They came to suspect that Benjamin experienced

something else entirely. He was actually
sleepwalking when he killed his sister.

Had either one of you ever had a case quite like
this? Never. No. You have a twin um causing the

death of the other and the last thing you think of
is this a sleepwalking case. But Benjamin had told

police that I stabbed his sister, it felt like
a dream. And his lawyers say that sleepwalking

defenses have been used successfully in the past.
In 1987, Canadian Kenneth Parks drove his car 14

miles to his mother-in-law's home, beat her
to death with a tire iron, and stabbed her.

He claimed he was asleep the whole time, and a
jury believed him. And in North Carolina in 2010,

Joseph Mitchell strangled his 4-year-old
son and attacked two of his other children,

all while sleepwalking. A jury also found
him not guilty. The big question here is

just whether Ben Elliott in fact killed his
sister while he was sleepwalking. Correct.

Just here. So Benjamin's lawyers reach out to
Dr. Jerald Simmons, a neurologist and a sleep

disorder expert. When I first was approached,
I was very skeptical. The next question is,

did I even want to deal with this? My
first reaction to this is, you know, well,

who else are they going to go to? I mean, within
the field of sleep medicine, this is what I do.

Simmons wanted to do a sleep study with Benjamin
to test if it's possible Benjamin could experience

something called a parasomnia. In general,
think of a parasomnia as an abnormal behavior

that occurs during sleep, like sleepwalking.
Sleepwalking would be a parasomnia. Simmons

asks if Benjamin had a history of sleepwalking,
and his lawyers say he did. When he was about

10 years old, Benjamin's older sister, Elizabeth,
found him sleepwalking by her bedroom door. There

was also a sleepover with childhood friends
the night this photo was taken. When Benjamin

was found asleep on a couch eating a donut when
they woke him, he seemed surprised and confused.

Simmons also learned that there were other
members of the Elliott family who sleepwalked.

the likelihood genetically is higher to have uh
parisomnia, specifically non-run parisomnas if

there are other family members that have had that.
My uncle apparently used to sleepwalk when he was

a teenager. He would go out into the garage and
you know with the tools and apparently he walked

in on my mom one time when she was in the shower.
Kathy also had an aunt who once walked out of her

house while she was asleep, r an out into the woods
in the middle of the night and waking up in the

middle of a thunderstorm outside. Yeah. And here's
a video of him right here. Simmons conducted two

sleep studies with Benjamin in his sleep lab 6
weeks apart. In each, Benjamin was hooked up to

machines that monitor just about everything his
body did as he slept. This is brain wave activity

here. So, we did the sleep study. I saw that he
had obstructive sleep apnea. Obstructive sleep

apnea says Simmons is where the airway becomes
partially blocked creating a disturbance in the

sleep pattern. So he's sleeping struggling
a bit to get breath and that could be the

trigger. Yes. A trigger that Simmons says could
cause a sleepwalking episode. Particularly when

Benjamin's brain waves enter what is known as
a non-REM slow-wave sleep. Now he's in slow-wave

sleep. This is slow-wave sleep. Sleepwalking will
typically occur in non-REM slow-wave sleep. During

the sleep studies, Benjamin did not sleepwalk, but
Simmons observed how quickly Benjamin entered that

non-REM slow-wave sleep. So it was 11 minutes
from the time we turned off the lights until

he was in slow-wave sleep. This is important
because on the night Benjamin stabbed Megan,

his phone activity stopped at 4:17 a.m. It was
just 24 minutes later that he was on his phone

calling 911. I just found my sister. What you
looking at? Simmons says the fact that Benjamin

is able to reach slow-wave sleep so quickly means
it's possible Benjamin was sleepwalking during

that period of time his phone was inactive. Our
father was becoming [Music] Do you believe Ben

killed his sister without even realizing he was
doing it in his sleep? Yes, Ben definitely killed

his sister. He did it. There's no question. He's
the one that had the knife and he stabbed her.

But I believe it was part of a parasomnia.
He didn't do this voluntarily. There was no

motivation. Dr. Simmons' findings took Benjamin's
parents by surprise. It's scary as hell. If that

can happen to us, then that could happen to
anybody with with the sleep problem. [Music]

He realized he was sinking the knife into
something or someone and then woke up and

realized it was his sister. After sleep expert
Dr. Jerald Simmons made his assessment that

Benjamin was sleepwalking when he killed his twin
sister, the Elliotts were hopeful prosecutors

might drop the case. At that point, we thought
it might not go to trial. But in April 2023,

a year and a half after Meghan's death, a grand
jury indicted Benjamin Elliott, then 19 years of

age, of first-degree murder. We just didn't think
that what we saw was sleepwalking. Megan Long and

Maroun Koutani would handle the prosecution. It
wasn't Long's first sleepwalking case. In 2019,

she successfully convicted a man who claimed
he was sleepwalking when he shot and killed

his wife. And Long told us she herself was a
sleepwalker as were her children. Still, Long

disputes the Elliotts' claim of a family history
since she says neither of Benjamin's parents have

been sleepwalkers. From our conversations
with our sleep expert, family history of

sleepwalking is a factor. It's more prevalent
when it's um like first-degree family members,

so your parents. The prosecutors hired their own
sleep consultant, psychologist Dr. Mark Pressman,

who concluded Benjamin was not sleepwalking when
he stabbed Meghan. He says sleepwalkers become

aggressive only when someone physically interferes
with them and they respond by hitting or kicking

or throwing furniture, but that's that's that's
like a reflex, you know, an instinctive reflex

to protect themselves. And he points out that
Benjamin would have had to have unchath the

knife before he used it in the stabbing, which
Pressman believes is a complex conscious action,

not an unconscious one. The next thing I remember
is the feeling of stabbing something. He also

says it's unusual for a sleepwalker to recall
details the way Benjamin did to authorities

after he stabbed Meghan. He remembered the feeling
of the knife going into the neck. OK, so that's

a memory. OK. Shouldn't be able to have that
memory. Aren't there sometimes pockets of memory?

Not in these cases. No. Dr. Simmons disagrees. He
says Benjamin told police what he could recall. If

he was trying to fabricate this or just use this
as an alibi, it would have been just as easy for

him to say, "I don't remember anything." Instead,
he's I interpret it as he's trying to be as

honest as he can. But Pressman felt he had enough
information to make his determination. You didn't

think you needed to talk to Ben? No. Prosecutor
Long knew she needed more than an expert's

assessment to convict Benjamin, especially
because she couldn't identify a motive for

murder. No one had witnessed any problems between
the twins. Is there no motive because he was

sleepwalking or is there no motive just because
no one's willing to come forward and tell us?

and they think they could convince a jury that
Benjamin's actions were intentional that night,

stabbing Meghan twice. One wound was 4 inches deep and
severed her carotid artery and jugular vein. So,

he's saying that he stabbed her in the neck,
removed the knife with where she was stabbed,

blood would be coming out of her neck, you should
see some sort of blood spatter on the walls, and

there isn't any of that. Benjamin had told police
he used a pillow to stop the bleeding. And I tried

to stop bleeding with the pillow that was behind
her. I like to did that. Long doesn't believe

that. I think he wanted to cover her face. I think
maybe even muff if she were to scream or anything

like that. The only way for there not to be that
blood spatter is it had to be there when he took

the knife out. It wasn't there for life-saving
measures. But he's calling 911, so he's not trying

to hide what he had done, right? I think at that
point when he's making that 911 call, he realizes,

I can't hide what I've just done. What's your
name? I just killed my sister. Koutani claims

Benjamin is whispering on the 911 call. [Music]
And is suspicious why he's not yelling to his

parents for help. Please, I don't want you to die.
I think he's whispering because he doesn't want

his parents to come to the same reality that
he's now living in that he took his sister's

life. I think that that's why he doesn't awake
them before calling 911. I think that's why he

doesn't scream in the house when he realizes what
he's done. And they argue Meghan was already dead

by the time Benjamin called 911. Okay, sir. Can we
can we take over? By the time EMS got there, she

wasn't breathing on her own. She had no heartbeat.
Our medical examiner said that with the wound that

she suffered from, she would have been dead within
minutes. Benjamin's interrogation raised even more

questions, they say, especially when Benjamin
described his house as a crime scene. Benjamin

Elliott is asked by Deputy Muñoz, "Where's your
phone?" Benjamin Elliott responds with, "It's at

the crime scene." And to us, that was significant.
Not many 17 year olds would respond with, "At the

crime scene." Most people would say, "At my house,
in my room." And there is more, says Koutani. His

demeanor and his behavior is very calm. Certainly
not the type of behavior you would expect from

somebody who comes to with a knife in their hand
and their sister uh dead in the sleep of the of

her own bedroom. Could he be in shock? I mean,
realizing what he had done. Isn't that possible?

I think based on his response to Deputy
Muñoz in a couple portions of the interview,

we can tell that he's not necessarily in shock
with what the consequences of his actions were.

During the interview, Benjamin told police that
his sister had struggled with her mental health.

My sister had um a pretty severe depression for a while, Meghan. To prosecutors that suggested maybe

everything wasn't so perfect in the Elliott
family. A contention that Benjamin's lawyers

find ridiculous. They say investigators made
virtually no effort to learn about the Elliotts

or Benjamin. They don't have a clue about this
kid. They weren't even curious. He would know

what was going to happen to him if he killed his
sister. There was nothing for him to gain. There

was everything for him to lose. There's just no
reason why he would have done that. Before trial,

prosecutors offered Benjamin a 30-year plea
deal. He turned it down. The tragedy is now

the family lost their daughter, but they're now
losing their son. He's on trial for his life.

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All right. He's a victim. He went to sleep.
He woke up and he he found out he had killed

his sister. After struggling with Meghan's loss,
maybe. The Elliotts now face the possibility they

could lose Benjamin, too. It's a nightmare that
happened to all of us. All right, for the jury.

Benjamin's first-degree murder trial began on
February 18, 2025. You tell your colleagues,

"I have a client who killed his twin sister and
we believe he was sleepwalking." And they think

you're crazy. But with no evidence of any problems
between the twins, Benjamin's lawyers hope they

could convince a jury that sleepwalking is the
only explanation. Even prosecutors knew the lack

of motive could be a problem. I think our biggest
hurdle going into this trial was the why. So,

you made sure you had jurors who at least
be open to the idea they may never know

why Meghan Elliott was stabbed, right? In his
opening remarks, Maroun Koutani made it clear

that while there was no motive, they had their
murderer. He calls 911 at 4:41. Hello. Hello.

I just killed my sister. I stabbed her with a
knife. Oh my God. He's whispering. Prosecutors

told jurors about Benjamin's behavior during
that interrogation. And you'll see his demeanor

in the interview, pointing to Benjamin's reaction
when the detective tells him Meghan is dead. Sorry

to tell you this, but Meghan has succumbed
to her injuries. And the defendant says,

Witnesses offer details about her
wounds, the lack of blood spatter,

and the prosecution's theory that Benjamin covered
Meghan's head with a pillow while he stabbed her.

And Benjamin's father was surprised to
learn that prosecutors would ask him to

identify Meghan's body for the record.
This is a photo taken from an autopsy.

Yeah, that's Meghan. No question drama. After the
prosecution rested, defense attorneys Cary Hart

and Wes Rucker took over. Good morning. Making
their case about sleepwalking. And this is not

a ruse. This is not some defense to get Ben
off of a tragic tragic set of circumstances.

This is a real phenomenon. And that call Benjamin
made to 911, the defense says that's evidence he

was desperate to save Megan. He's saying things
like, "Oh my God, I thought it was a dream. I

thought it was a dream. I don't want her to die.
I don't want her to die. He's trying to do CPR.

Family friend Drue Whittecar told the jury about
Benjamin's devotion to Meghan. Ever noticed that

if the sweet kid or the tender kid change into
somebody else? Absolutely not. Appearing by Zoom,

childhood friend Anand Singh told the jury about
that sleepover when he found Benjamin asleep

and eating a donut. Just the sheer confusion
on his face like he genuinely seemed baffled

as to how that happened. Benjamin's great
aunt, Martha Knight-Oakley, a psychologist,

told the jury about her own sleepwalking history,
including finding herself in the woods one night.

All I know is I came to in the bushes clutching
my dog. But the defense team's star witness

was Dr. Jerald Simmons. He testified for four
hours detailing the science and sleep studies

that convinced him of Benjamin's innocence.
It totally fits in line with a process we

call sleepwalking violent behaviors. On rebuttal,
prosecutors called their own sleepwalking expert,

Dr. Mark Pressman. I concluded uh he was not
in a sleepwalking state. How did you come to

that conclusion? He had memory. He is said to
have come out of the state much faster than any

sleepwalker could ever do. In closing arguments,
prosecutors described a deliberate murder.

Benjamin Elliott walked into his sister's room
with this very knife and he stabbed her in the

neck twice. There's no blood spraying in the
room. You know why? The only thing soaked in

blood is the pillow that he muffled her screams
with. Benjamin's defense attorneys push back.

you if you're trying to cover something up, you're
not calling 911. You're not begging for someone to

help your sister. And they appealed for justice.
You do not convict a young man, a 17-year-old,

because of how he looks or because how he answers
interrogation questions. But prosecutor Megan Long

had the final word, and she suggested the family
was involved in a cover up that began with calling

the friend who is a lawyer. And look, I'm a
mother. I understand wanting to protect your

children. I get it. But you can't let them get
away with it. They have been protecting him from

the get-go. Long didn't leave it there. They
want to say that this family life was perfect,

but we don't necessarily know what happens
behind closed doors. And what she said next

stunned the courtroom filled with the Elliott
family and friends. I want you to look in

this courtroom. There are so many people here for
Benjamin. There is not one person here for Meghan.

The judge let the prosecution continue.
You have to be her hero. He knew exactly

what he was doing. There's been no remorse
shown here in this courtroom by him. After

four days of testimony, the case went to
the jury. We took a vote immediately.

Jurors were divided. It was split seven
to five. Could they reach a verdict?

I was a sleepwalker and one of my own children
used to sleepwalk too as a young. Several of

the jurors who decided Benjamin's fate knew
a lot about sleepwalking. You know someone

who was a sleepwalker? Absolutely. Yes. Had
a had a family member. Yes. On my mom's side,

my grandfather. But even with their experience,
they were deeply conflicted about Benjamin. We

spent a lot of time with the interview by the
detective. I'm taking the SAT I think Friday.

He talked about how he was going to go take
the SAT. He just seemed to not have a lot of

remorse. It didn't take them long to come to
a unanimous decision. All right. For the jury,

my understanding is that y'all have a verdict.
Is that correct? After four hours of deliberations,

we the jury find the defendant Benjamin
David Elliott guilty of murder is charged

in the indictment signed by the foreman of
the jury, printed by the foreman of the jury.

I remember hearing guilty and I was completely
shocked. Benjamin Elliott, who did not testify at

trial, later spoke to "48 Hours" inside the county
jail. I feel like this has been a I don't know,

a miscarriage of justice. Like it's I am not
guilty of murder for my sister Meghan Elliott.

Benjamin, now 21 years old, said he and his
family were appalled by the way prosecutor

Megan Long ended her closing argument. There are
so many people here for Benjamin. There is not

one person here for Meghan. That was crazy to me.
What do you mean? Everyone in that courtroom was

there for Meghan. I understand wanting to protect
your children. And his parents were outraged by

the statements made by prosecutors, hinting to
problems within the family. We don't necessarily

know what happens behind closed doors. They were
lying. Yeah. It was horrible. They waited until

the closing when they knew that nothing could be
said afterwards to to pull out these outlandish

implications about you don't know what happens
behind closing. Yeah, she knows damn well there's

not a shred of evidence that anything unourred
was happening in our house, in our family.

Benjamin and his parents had little time to let
the guilty verdict sink in. Does he have to say

hug? Yes. They were back in court for sentencing
the following day. and he is the one that went

into her room that night and snuffed the life
out of her. Prosecutors asked for 40 years,

but a member of the jury asked the judge for
leniency because he worried about Benjamin's

family. Stand up, Mr. Elliott. Judge Danilo Lacayo
told the court he wanted a sentence that he could

live with. I sentence you to 15 years in prison.
This time you will go with the the request for

leniency says Benjamin makes him wonder if a few
jurors had more doubts than they wanted to admit.

If you believe that I crept into my sister's
bedroom and murdered her while she was asleep, why

would you possibly want leniency for that person?
That person is horrible. Are you that person? No,

I'm not. I'm not that person. I mean, I'm I I
try to be genuine. I try to be honest. I'm I'd

like to think of myself as a good person. Benjamin
says authorities misconstrued everything he did.

Started with that 911 call. The prosecutors say
you were whispering on the phone. Were you? No.

That's ridiculous. I wasn't whispering. inside.
I don't want to get by. I'm so sorry. I was

panicked. I wasn't screaming into the phone cuz
I'm just not a I don't really yell. And Benjamin

insists that as soon as he realized what he
had done, he was trying to help Meghan using

the pillow to try to stop the bleeding. The
state says that you didn't use the pillow to

try to stop the bleeding. You did it to keep her
from screaming. What do you say to that? That's

crazy to me. And there's absolutely absolutely
zero forensic evidence for that at all. And what

about his seemingly calm demeanor throughout
the police interview? The plan is I'm taking

the SAT. You're talking to a deputy and you're
talking about SATs and colleges. I'm trying to

get my mind off of things. I've had some issues
with school stuff sometimes where I think you

can see it in the conversation. I keep pretty much
steering the conversation away from what happened.

I don't want to think about it. As for learning
Meghan had died, Benjamin says he just shut down

and that he was desperately hoping she'd be
okay. Do you feel you're guilty of anything? No,

you don't. No. No. I I don't think this is my
fault at all. I used to blame myself for it

because it's like I mean I I was the one holding
the knife, right? But I mean I've come to realize

that I'm not, you know, I couldn't have done
anything any different than what I had done.

And Benjamin says he misses his twin.

It's really hard that she's not
here. Isn't it hard to know that  ...

it's because of you she's not here?
Yeah. Yeah. It's really hard. We

did everything together. Like we
we were we were very very close.

And she was a wonderful person. She was an
artist. The way she looked at the world. She

looked at it with like a creative mind. So she
would just see just beautiful things everywhere.