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Our first guest:
Patty Hearst,

the victim of the most
bizarre kidnapping story

in American history,

carried kicking and screaming
from her California apartment,

shoved into the trunk of a car
and sped off into the night.

Four months later,
she stunned the world

with the announcement that
she'd joined her captors.

She became a gun-toting
revolutionary

and was branded a
common criminal.

[man] Less than 30 minutes ago,

we arrested Patty Hearst
at 625...

Four counts of robbery,

five counts of assault
with a deadly weapon

with intent to murder.

[reporter] Authorities said they
found 10 automatic weapons

in the Hearst apartment.

[man] How in the world does
the granddaughter of

William Randolph Hearst
become a terrorist?

The Symbionese
Liberation Army

kidnapped someone from
American nobility.

It's a story that is violent.

I was kidnapped by terrorists,
brutalized by them,

the threat constantly
that you'll be killed

if you don't cooperate.

It finally breaks you down.

My name is
William Taylor Harris.

Ask me a question.

I personally took Patty Hearst
out of her apartment

and put her into a
getaway car.

Reality isn't always
on the surface.

You know?

Sometimes you have to
look a little bit deeper

to see what's real.

Is she America's most
famous crime victim,

or is she the most
famous rich turncoat

in American history?

The granddaughter of
William Randolph Hearst

was abducted by two men and a
girl in a bizarre kidnapping.

[reporter] No ransom note, no
phone calls, no word, nothing.

[Patty] [recording] The SLA is
the people's army

and we fight in their interests.

[reporter] The FBI said the
girl in the wig with the

automatic rifle was
Patricia Hearst.

[reporter] Rich college girl
turned armed terrorist

in a matter of weeks.

[reporter] Southern California's
largest manhunt continues.

For someone my age,
I've been through an awful lot.

[Clarence Kelley] We don't
know where she is.

[Patty] [recording]
Mom, Dad, I'm okay.

Looking at it 40 or fif--
45 years later,

however long it's been,
it wasn't a simple story.

When somebody you love, close to
you is kidnapped, it's a--

it's a - it's a particular kind
of torture that is very hard

to understand unless it's
actually happened to you.

She did change.

And it wasn't too many months
before I realized

that we weren't getting
back together.

Everything was crushed.

It was gone.

It was - it was done.

But I'm just trying to -

you know, if this is a
documentary and you want

the history and you want to
know what it was like

before the kidnapping,
that's - that's my answer.

[soft music]

In 1972 I went to work
at Crystal Springs

teaching math and geometry.

It was a small private
girls' school.

And she came to some guitar
classes I was giving.

I don't think she
really was interested

in learning the guitar;

she just wanted to hang out
with one of the older teachers.

That was the first introduction.

And then she would find
ways to talk to me.

And then finally one day she
just showed up at my house

for some math tutoring.

And that became a - became a
constant thing eventually.

Patty and Steve have always
said their romance began

when Steve was 23
and she was 16.

By my accounting, it may
well have been she was 15.

But as both Steve and Patty
have subsequently said,

it was Patty who targeted
Steve for romance first,

not the other way around.

[Steven] I never would have
initiated something like that.

But I was receptive over time.

She knew what she wanted
and she just went for it.

And she was kind of fearless,
actually.

[Toobin] Patty was just 18 years
old when she decided

to move in with Steve Weed, and
they got a nice little apartment

very near the campus
of Berkeley.

Her father was pretty
easygoing about it:

"Oh, you're going to shack up
with my daughter?

Well, you just
treat her nicely."

Her mother was very
unhappy about it,

but she didn't show it.

Her breeding was to be polite.

And-and she was, and
I appreciated it.

[Toobin] In the 1970s,
Randy Hearst's title was

Publisher of the
San Francisco Examiner .

[Carol] He would come into the
office, although not be there

necessarily every day.

He would be working at the
paper and then he'd say,

"Well, tomorrow I'm going
to go duck hunting,"

just reminding us
inadvertently that he led

a very different kind of life
than the rest of us did.

The name Hearst really meant
something in America.

It was really synonymous with
big corporations,

big media and outstanding,
over-the-top wealth.

To the extent that California
held up any family as royalty,

you'd have to say
it was the Hearsts.

And, you know, that made Patty,
in her own small, little way,

a princess.

[Toobin] Patty's grandfather,
William Randolph Hearst,

owned dozens of newspapers.

And he didn't just own them;

he used them for political
and economic power.

Hearst was a larger-than-life
figure.

He was more than a businessman;
he was a - he was a celebrity

before there were celebrities.

[Toobin] Orson Welles wrote
and directed Citizen Kane

as the life story of
William Randolph Hearst.

[Carol] Randy and Catherine
Hearst lived with their

five daughters in Hillsborough,
a very wealthy, beautiful

community on the peninsula.

[Toobin] Randy treated Patty,
of his five daughters,

the most like a son
because she was tough.

He channeled it on the outings
that they went on together.

They went hiking.

They went fishing.

They went hunting, and
he taught her to shoot.

[muffled gun shot]

Her relationship
to her mother

was a lot more problematic.

Catherine was -
she was a Southern belle.

She was a woman that
had come from Georgia,

swept off her feet by the
cosmopolitan Hearst heir.

I wouldn't call her snobby,

but she had an upper-class
kind of attitude.

[Toobin] Her mother wanted Patty
to do well in school,

come out in society,
go to college,

but basically lead
her mother's life.

She was in rebellion against
some of the strictures

that her mother in particular
imposed on her...

like convent schools.

She loathed convent schools.

And she got thrown out
of several of them.

[Steven] She wanted the
independence.

She wanted to - she really
wanted to become an adult,

was really what it was.

I was just a college
student at Berkeley

and I was living
with my boyfriend.

You know, I was just
like a dumb 19-year-old.

That's about it [laughs].

[Steven] We lived in a
two-story townhouse.

There was still kind of a dicey
street scene in Berkeley.

Petty crime was fairly rampant.

I think three days
before the kidnapping,

a couple showed up at night,

looking a little bit sketchy,
asking about rentals.

They didn't - it didn't
seem right.

In retrospect, obviously
they were checking us out.

But at the time, we just
dismissed it as another,

you know, random Berkeley
kind of thing.

But we weren't at all paranoid.

We'd just finished having
dinner, watching a TV show,

and getting ready to study.

And, uh, there was
a knock on the door.

There was a woman
at the front door.

There was a person
standing there.

And I had moved into the
kitchen, and what I could

hear was that they
thought they'd, uh -

they'd hit a car
downstairs, they said,

and could they use the phone.

And then with that, people
just burst into the apartment.

[Steven] It couldn't have been
three or four seconds

before two men pushed
through the front door.

They pushed me back, shouting,
"Get your face on the floor.

Get your face on the floor."

Your mind's trying to come
to grips with: what is this?

What's going on?

They started kicking me
and hitting me.

There was just a gun in
my face and I was pushed

down to the kitchen floor.

I was tied up and gagged
and blindfolded.

And I bit down on the gag
because I had just assumed

that they were going to
burglarize the apartment.

At about that point,
they started demanding:

"Where's the safe?

Where's the money?"

I was trying to figure out
what was happening.

And the natural conclusion
is that it was a robbery.

I could hear Patty whimpering
in the other room.

I said, "We don't have a safe.

"Take anything you want.

Just leave us alone."

Every time I'd look up,
they'd kick me in the face.

I do remember the woman saying,
"They've seen our faces.

We have to get rid of them."

We had this one-dollar
bottle of Romance wine.

And they grabbed one and started
hitting me on the head with it,

really hard.

Even if he's not trying
to kill me he's going to.

He's going to bash my head in.

It's like they're
going to kill us.

By this time my blo--
my eyes were full of blood.

I couldn't really see.

I lurched up.

Instead of running out
the front door,

I just went running
around the living room...

yelling at the top
of my lungs,

knocking over furniture,
knocking over plants,

just banging into things,

just hoping the distraction
would drive them away.

I opened the door, went out
on the back patio,

jumped over the fence,

and started banging on the
neighbor's door.

Even in my state of delirium,
I could tell that they weren't

going to answer the door.

I could realize -
I realized I was just

terrifying somebody inside.

I assumed it was a
robbery gone bad.

I didn't know at the time,
of course.

I learned it a lot later,
that it was the SLA.

[Bryan] Patty Hearst was
kidnapped by a small,

violent revolutionary group
called the SLA.

To understand the SLA, you have
to understand Berkeley in 1973.

And to understand Berkeley
in 1973, you have to

understand the 60s and what
San Francisco became.

If you were radical in the 60s
and early 70s, if you wanted

to change the world, you were at
least giving a passing thought

to going to Berkeley.

It had become a huge melting pot
for young people who wanted a

brighter, more beautiful future.

[Carol] There was so much
turmoil in those years.

There had been the civil rights
movement and then the

antiwar movement.

And young people
were rebellious,

they were protesting, and
they had a sense of power

that we can make a difference,

that we could end the
war in Vietnam.

[protestors] Hell no,
we won't go!

By the 70s, there was anger

and an incredible
amount of violence

that we can hardly
imagine today.

It was as close to a
revolutionary situation

in some people's minds
as we'd ever had.

Once you get beat up a few times
by the cops when you protest,

you have to make a choice
between turning the other cheek

or do something more
extraordinary in reaction

to the violence of the state.

They were killing us
on college campuses.

[student] Nixon is, uh,
definitely looking at students

as the enemies in the
country right now.

We have to go underground,
you know.

I think it looks
pretty bad for us.

[Janja Lalich] A lot of these
groups got even more radical

because they believed that there
should be a revolution,

that it will be an
armed revolution, uh,

that needs to overthrow
the government.

And so a lot of these groups,
they studied basic Marx,

they studied Lenin, they studied
Communism in underground cells.

And they truly believed that the
only way that you could change

a society for the better was
to have this armed revolution.

[Bill] We felt that we had to
kind of ramp up the response.

Shit was hitting the fan
everywhere.

I didn't come to this conclusion
to do what I was doing

in two weeks or a month,
you know.

It was - it was a
huge evolution.

I graduated high school in 1963.

The civil rights movement
was ramping up,

but I had no political
consciousness of any kind.

Vietnam totally
flipped my perspective.

My first day in Vietnam I had
to witness the torture

of a Vietnamese prisoner.

When you get in that kind
of a level of conflict,

it's really hard to
adjust coming back home.

Really, Vietnam was the
precursor to the SLA.

I met Emily late
January of 1968.

She was a sorority girl.

You know, Emily evolved during
our relationship from a person

that didn't have any politics
to somebody that felt strongly

about her politics.

And as she got more involved
in women's issues,

she became more and more
radicalized from her own

self-interests.

Emily and I got married
in November of 1971.

We moved to the Bay Area to
get area to get involved

in political work.

I looked up an old friend from
college that I found out

was getting more deeply
involved in things.

I met Angela Atwood in the
theater department

of Indiana University.

She always had ideas influenced
by modernist feminist thinking

and, you know, she went
through dramatic changes

during the same period.

The three of us were interested
in getting more deeply

involved in things.

We didn't really know
anybody to hook up with

until I met Joe Remiro.

Joe invited me to a
community meeting.

It was at this meeting that I
met another future comrade,

Russ Little.

And we started planning
for the future.

We were kind of on a path to
where this shit is going

to necessarily escalate.

We're going to catch people's
attention because we're going

to do something audacious.

[Steven] Patty and I, we just
had a really good life together.

She was fun-loving and she
was easy to get along with.

We had great times together.

We'd travel, not just to
San Simeon and Wyntoon

and the other Hearst places,

but we went on road
trips together.

And Patty was getting - was
really getting anchored in her -

in her art history.

And everything seemed like
it was heading in the

right direction.

Patty and I decided...

we should get married.

We announced our engagement

through the Examiner ,
of course.

And we were looking
forward to it.

While Steve Weed and
Patty Hearst are going about

their everyday business in
Berkeley, the SLA is starting

to form in a very different
place, in a prison.

One of the key aspects of
the political environment

in the Bay Area was
the prison movement.

For a lot of radicals in
the 70s, prison symbolized

everything that was wrong
with American society:

its racism, its violence,
its oppression of poor people.

And the radicals saw the prisons
as a place where they could

foment revolutionary change.

[Bill] At that time, Joe and
Russ were doing work

inside the California
prison system.

It's inherently political if
the process of the system

hammers people of color
more than white people.

This is the beginning of things
like mass incarceration.

This is how we deal
with poverty.

We lock it up.

[Toobin] Since Berkeley was
the epicenter of the protest

movement, it was a place where
radicals wanted to try

to spread the gospel to prisons.

And the nearest prison
was Vacaville.

And so you had this pipeline
where students and ex-students

at Berkeley would go to
Vacaville, sort of as teachers,

but really as
political organizers.

One prisoner really stood out
as the leader of the

political group in the prison,
and that was Donald DeFreeze.

Donald DeFreeze was basically
a professional criminal.

He'd been in and out of
prison his whole life.

But what landed him there for
the last time was when he

beat up a prostitute,
stole a check from her,

and tried to cash it.

And he got caught.

Willie Wolfe was an
upper-middle-class kid,

a physician's son from
New Milford, Connecticut,

who went to Berkeley to try
to be an archaeologist.

But in short order,
he became radicalized.

And he became part of this group
that spent its time going to

Vacaville Prison, and he became
friends with Donald DeFreeze,

Joe Remiro and Russ Little.

DeFreeze had a plan.

[Bill] Back then, all the jobs
in the prison were done

by a convict.

DeFreeze knew enough from
talking to other prisoners

that manning the boilers is
a job outside the fence.

And the first time they
sent him to his job,

he stayed there for
a couple of hours;

then he was gone.

I'm not certain
who picked him up.

I always thought it was Willie.

When DeFreeze escaped, that
was the beginning of the SLA.

Donald DeFreeze goes to
the only place he knows

that he's likely to get a warm
welcome, and that's Berkeley.

He hooks up on the outside
with some of the students

who had been visiting him
on the inside.

And that includes Joe Remiro,
Willie Wolfe, Russ Little,

and in their social circle
are Nancy Ling Perry

and Mizmoon Soltysik.

Mizmoon and Nancy wind up
moving in with Donald DeFreeze.

They start coming up
with these ideas about

revolutionary change.

The three of them become the
nucleus of the

Symbionese Liberation Army.

The Symbionese Liberation Army
committed a horrendous crime

before kidnapping
Patty Hearst.

That incident gets lost
when we talk about the

Patty Hearst kidnap.

[Toobin] During the fall
of 1973, Donald DeFreeze

is a fugitive so he can't
be out and about.

So he sits in the
apartment and he stews.

And then one night on TV,
DeFreeze sees a piece

on the Oakland
Superintendent of Schools.

The schools cannot do the
job of education

in the big cities alone.

Marcus Foster became a
controversial figure,

partially because he was trying
to have a police presence

in the schools and establish
a kind of ID system

for the students.

The concern was that the police
would be in the schools

not to protect the students
but to control them.

DeFreeze became convinced that
Foster had to be killed.

[Carol] One night Marcus Foster
was walking from the

School Board building
to his car.

They waited for the end of
a School Board meeting.

And as he walked into
the parking lot,

they shot Marcus Foster dead
at pointblank range.

The theory was that DeFreeze,
Nancy Ling Perry

and Mizmoon Soltysik
were the shooters

and Joe Remiro and Russ Little
were the lookouts.

Remiro and Little had guns with
them but they were not involved

in the shooting.

[reporter] In a communique to
newspapers, the SLA took

credit for Foster's murder.

It was the first time anyone
had ever heard of the group.

They were proud of
what they had done.

And they put out a press
release, or a statement,

saying they had done this.

The SLA was not indiscriminately
issuing death warrants

for Foster, Blackburn
or anyone else.

Such an attack was the only
means left open to us to demand

that the people's wishes be met
and that all such dangerous

genocidal programs be stopped.

I was surprised by it.

I didn't know they even existed.

So I was thinking,
oh, my goodness.

I mean, hell, I thought
the Panthers did it.

[Carol] The bullets that
were used to kill him

were cyanide-tipped.

They knew how to draw
attention to themselves.

I've never heard of anybody
putting cyanide

into a lethal round.

I've never heard of that.

So it was a - it was a
mark of the SLA.

My reaction was:
who the hell are these guys?

We better find out who they
are and what they're about.

[soft music]

Patty and I had no interest
in politics.

Politics was not
part of our life.

It was not part of Patty's life
in any respect whatsoever.

I'm emphasizing that because a
lot - a lot has been said

that paints her as somebody who
was already picking up politics.

It's not true.

There was even a theory
floated later, very seriously

by a lot of people, that she had
been in on her own kidnapping.

That's crazy.

We were very much in the middle
of the counterculture movement,

but it just did not - does not
affect us one way or another.

Everybody had heard of the SLA
because of the assassination

of Marcus Foster.

It was on the news
and we heard about it.

But we didn't know anything
about the people

that were in the SLA.

[soft dramatic music]

[Toobin] Donald DeFreeze did
have a dramatic sense about him.

He was the one who came up
with the name of the

Symbionese Liberation Army:

symbionese, which was based
on symbiosis between

students and prisoners.

DeFreeze too came up with the
logo of the seven-headed cobra.

And the seven values of each
head of the cobra were the

same values that underline the
African holiday of Kwanzaa.

It would certainly be a
mistake to think that the

Symbionese Liberation Army
had some sort of clear agenda

for change.

They believed if you engage in
small scale but intense, violent

struggle, that would set
off a larger revolution.

How it would work, what they
would do was very unclear.

The SLA, in killing
Marcus Foster,

established that they
were completely isolated

even from possible allies
in the counterculture.

But then they get
three new recruits.

We were approached and
asked if we wanted to meet

the people who carried out
the Foster assassination.

Emily and I and Angela were
taken to a location where hoods

were put over our heads and we
were led into a van and we were

transported up to a place we
didn't know where we were.

We had no idea.

Emily and Angela and I were
just, you know, trying to

understand what was going on
and listening to what they

had to say.

Because of the nature of the
Foster assassination,

I was prepared to possibly
not be impressed.

Joe and Russ were not happy
with that particular operation.

I think they were troubled
by it enough to talk to

Emily and me and Angela about
hooking up with them

and separating off
into a separate cell.

That was my intention always.

A combination of impatience,
despair, the real malaise of my

own existence, you know, and the
ineffectualness of the left

was what caused me to
make this decision.

We're about at the beginning
of January, okay, 1974,

when we finally come
to that decision.

January 10th, 1974

literally changed
my whole life...

and all of my plans.

Joe and Russ were driving
in their van

back to the safe house.

They were running errands,
picking up guns

that had been altered.

They went to a printing unit and
picked up a stack of drawings

of the seven-headed cobra.

The leaflets were propaganda
presenting what the program

of the SLA was in hopes of
recruiting comrades.

I don't even think they noticed
the cop, and all of a sudden

he pulls them over
out of the blue.

[Bill] Instead of coming back
to the driver's side,

he goes to the passenger side

and tells Joe to get
out of the van.

They're both armed, and
they have illegal guns

and some leaflets that
connect them to something

much more serious.

They ended up in a shootout
at close quarters that had

both of them so freaked out
that they missed each other.

[Bill] Uh, the leaflets,
however, were a big,

big problem.

That connects them to
the Foster assassination.

[Stuart Hanlon] Joe was arrested
and he had a Walther PPK.

It was one of the murder weapons
that he had let one of the

women use to shoot Foster.

They were charged with being
the actual shooters of

Marcus Foster,
and they were not.

And I realized that very
soon they would -

it would be determined that
they were associated with us.

And so in reality, what
we're going to have to do

is we're going to
have to disappear.

[intense music]

[reporter] Two men, Joseph
Remiro and Russell Little,

were arrested for
Foster's murder.

They refuse to talk about
their membership in the

Symbionese Liberation Army.

[Bill] Joe and Russ were
arrested a few blocks

away from the safe house.

There were so many cops in the
area trying to figure out what

was going on DeFreeze, Nancy,
and Mizmoon had to abandon

that safe house.

They had things that were stored
in this house and it had been

a safe house I'm not even sure
for how long, but a long time.

And it was boxes
and boxes of stuff.

After they soaked the house in
about 20 gallons of gasoline,

they attempted to
torch the house.

And unfortunately, someone
lowered the garage door.

All the windows were closed
because it was wintertime.

But when they closed the garage
door, it cut off the oxygen to

the fire and it immediately
went out and left everything

in perfect condition almost
for the Feds and the police

to go through.

[reporter] In the house in
which they lived in a quiet

San Francisco suburb, police
found weapons, revolutionary

literature and material
linking them to the SLA.

My original decision was
to be with some people

federated with the SLA.

Okay?

There's a distinction
in my mind.

And 10 days later,
Joe and Russ are arrested,

and that throws everything
out the window.

The circumstances had
made our choice for us.

We were going
underground immediately.

[Toobin] At this point, the SLA
consisted of Bill Harris,

Emily Harris and Angela Atwood,
Donald DeFreeze, Willie Wolfe,

Nancy Ling Perry and
Mizmoon Soltysik.

And she had a lover
named Camilla Hall,

and she also joined the group.

When the police start going
through the Concord house,

they start to find
the SLA's list.

And on one of the lists is
possible kidnap victims.

And there is a young college
student named Patricia Hearst,

because they had read her
engagement announcement in the

San Francisco Examiner.

The police never warned
anyone on that list.

During the months and months
before we were ever introduced

to the members of the SLA,
they had been acquiring

intelligence on potential local
targets, including maybe

a couple of news articles
announcing Patricia's betrothal

to Steven Weed.

Articles didn't say where she
lived, but they gave enough

information to easily
find it out.

The decision to kidnap Patricia
Hearst was the direct result

of Joe's and Russ's arrest.

We had to do it as a
matter of principle,

possibly worked toward
an exchange.

It also was a result of our
general politics

and who we targeted in our minds
as being enemies of the people.

We had already determined that
Hearst was a particular

easy target and that the
propaganda that could be

generated from it was perfect.

Bill and Emily and Angela
came out of the theater program

at Indiana University.

And this was a time when theater
had a very political component.

It was known as
guerrilla theater.

And they believed in using
theater, in using propaganda,

as a way of exposing the
contradictions in modern society

and recruiting people
to their cause.

One idea that Bill and the
others start to discuss is:

instead of killing people,
why don't we kidnap someone?

Why don't we use someone as a
living pawn to symbolize

the nature of our
revolutionary activity?

With Emily and I and
Angela's influence was to

do things that were more
inspiring that weren't as scary.

We had to do things that not
only inspired people because

they were radical and forceful,
but they had to be relevant.

Patricia Hearst was
a symbolic target.

She was an heiress.

Her family was in control of a
media empire that we viewed

as an arm of propaganda for the
United States government.

She was more of an innocent
if there ever was one,

which we're trying to explain
is this symbolic connection

to Joe and Russ.

She's innocent;
they're innocent.

We're going to treat her like
you're supposed to treat them.

It didn't take us long
to do the surveillance.

She was in an ideal location.

There was no security.

Her front door was right there:
handy dandy.

And her apartment was
blocked from the street,

so there wasn't going
to be a lot of easy -

of sight lines for people to see
what was going on or even hear.

I think it was a weeknight
that we chose.

Everybody in the group was
involved in the operation.

Willie's driving.

Mizmoon is the
passenger in the VW.

Emily's car is parked about
three spaces down the street.

Camilla was driving
the getaway car.

And DeFreeze, me and Angela
had to handle the -

everything that went on
inside the house.

Everybody's armed.

It was dark and so nobody
saw us going up there.

[ominous music]

Nobody saw us going up there.

I kind of recall being on
the right of the door

and DeFreeze was on the left.

DeFreeze and I bracketed the
door where they couldn't see us.

Knock on the door:

Angela alluded to an accident
and asked to use the phone.

And DeFreeze grabs Weed
and put him on the ground.

Angela pounced on Patricia
and started to secure her

with clothesline-type rope.

And so I'm basically standing
there with my machine gun

now in plain view, making sure
nobody came back in or out.

DeFreeze had some belief that
they - they're so rich they must

have a safe [laughs].

DeFreeze is demanding to know
where the safe is, you know.

And of course,
they're flummoxed.

They don't - "We don't
have a safe," you know.

And Weed, he has no idea that
we're kidnapping his fiancee.

He was scared shitless.

I remember him saying,
"Don't harm us.

Take whatever you want."

And DeFreeze kept telling him:
"Keep your fucking head down."

He kept looking up.

It was almost like a
total compulsion.

All he had to do was lie there
and nothing would have

happened to him.

All of a sudden, Weed jumps up
and is hauling ass

right at me to escape
from the front door.

And, man, I'm not
planning on this.

He's like - you know,
he's 6'1", 6'2".

He's a tall, skinny guy.

And, uh, you know, I'm
5'6", 145 pounds, man.

I'm a little light in the ass.

But now I've got to make sure
that he doesn't leave.

And I'm thinking,
oh, fuck, here we go.

So he comes up screaming
and he's like looking me

dead in the face.

And I just come up with my
machine gun and I whack him

in his chin - bam -
and knock him back.

I got him a good one
and he fell back.

And I think then DeFreeze
knocked him out some more.

You know, Weed was not in a
position to do much of anything.

And he ended up looking
bad about it, you know?

He didn't get himself shot,
so big fucking deal, you know.

It's like, you know, yeah,
I guess he could have gotten

himself shot and then he
would look like heroic.

But he'd be a dead Weed
instead of a live Weed.

Hearst is tied up and gagged
and blindfolded.

She's a petite person, so I
pick her up and I sling over my

shoulder in a fireman's carry
and proceed to leave with her.

I leave DeFreeze and
Angela in the apartment.

Weed, he jumps up again and
screams out of the house.

And we're gone.

We're gone by that time.

He thought he had escaped us.

Come out to the courtyard, walk
down the steps next to the

garage: I was losing control
of her on my shoulder.

I reach down and I open
the lid to the trunk.

As soon as I let go of the
trunk and take my left hand

to further secure her,
the damn spring on the trunk

immediately shuts the lid
and locks it.

She's tied up in my - so I set
her down and I run around

to the side of the car:
"Give me the key."

So I have to get the key again.

I come back around:
she's not even there.

Fuck.

I unlock the fucking trunk and
I realize I've got to like

not do it too hard.

And I close it slightly and
I start looking for her.

she's like not there.

And so I look around and, sure
enough, she's hobbled into

the fucking garage.

I go and grab her and
throw her in the trunk.

I must have made
too much racket.

Neighbors who were situated
across from her and next door

to her came out of
their apartments.

DeFreeze turned around, blasted
four or five rounds to get

them to back off.

That woke up Nancy, who's
sitting shotgun in Emily's car.

And so she got off
a few rounds too.

[gunfire]

We're ready to boogie.

Willie can see that
we're ready to go.

He pulls out of his spot.

We pull out of the driveway,
come up behind him.

Emily comes up behind us.

We make it around the corner.

All of a sudden out of nowhere
here comes a Berkeley cop

who stops the VW with Willie
and Mizmoon in it.

Now, this is not even 30 seconds
after all this gunfire.

I'm thinking this
is a cop responding

to the fucking gunfire.

So now we're armed to the
gills, and here we are.

We're going to get a
shootout with a cop.

If he's detaining the
lead car, we can't move.

We're going to have
to blast this guy.

And then we see the
lights come on in the VW.

The cop stopped them

because they didn't have
their lights on.

[laughs]

And he rolled up his
window and moved past us.

He's going by.

I'm looking at him.

He's going like - I can see him
do this as he's driving by.

So the call's coming in to him;

he just happened to show up
a little bit late.

And we got away.

[ominous music]

There's been a big kidnapping
on the West Coast.

The victim is Patricia Hearst.

[Patty] [recording]
Mom, Dad, I'm okay.

But she was clearly terrorized.

[Patty] [recording] Do what
they say, Dad.

And just do it quickly.

Just flat-out barking mad.

[Bill] She desperately
did not want to go home.

We had to prove that.

Who would have thunk that
Patricia Hearst would be

robbing a bank as a
revolutionary act?

[man] She was ready to shoot
anything that got in the way.

[rapid gunfire]

I think she was spectacular.

She's the victim of
thought control.

Fifty-six days in the
closet turned her

into an urban guerrilla.

[Bill] The police wanted to
be the ones that caught us

or killed us.

It is the longest,
most intense shootout

in the city's history.

There isn't a 20%
chance she's going

to get out of this.

Patty had dramatically changed.

Something - something
had snapped.

[Bill] She's not a stereotypical
Hollywood victim.

We kidnapped a freak.