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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,819 So who is Manfred? 2 00:00:02,820 --> 00:00:06,959 It's a chatroom for people who struggle with suicidal thoughts. 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,239 - How many people are on here? - It's Rowan Cole. 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,979 "I want to knock "myself out and let my aircraft take me." 5 00:00:12,980 --> 00:00:15,619 - "Do it. Stop hurting." - "With you." 6 00:00:15,620 --> 00:00:17,889 This is incitement to suicide. 7 00:00:17,890 --> 00:00:19,890 "There was an innocent child. My doing 8 00:00:20,240 --> 00:00:22,110 You don't know the half of what I've done. 9 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:25,949 So who was on it? 10 00:00:25,950 --> 00:00:29,080 Ezra Heller. 11-years-old. Jonathan Kraft. 11 00:00:29,390 --> 00:00:31,539 Ex US Ambassador Jonathan Kraft? 12 00:00:31,540 --> 00:00:33,829 Matt, can you give me a call? 13 00:00:33,830 --> 00:00:35,609 Jonathan didn't make it. 14 00:00:35,610 --> 00:00:36,919 A couple of pilots. 15 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,330 The captain, Alex Vitarnen, and Rowan Cole, a non-flying pilot. 16 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,689 Rowan Cole was seeing a psychotherapist. 17 00:00:44,690 --> 00:00:47,559 Did he express suicidal thoughts? 18 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,019 Not to me. 19 00:00:49,020 --> 00:00:50,439 Peter Sachs. 20 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,089 Shot himself through the roof of his mouth. 21 00:00:52,090 --> 00:00:54,389 Desperate men looking for someone to trust 22 00:00:54,390 --> 00:00:56,750 and he's preying on them. 23 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,409 I haven't been completely honest with you. 24 00:01:01,410 --> 00:01:02,710 Matt? 25 00:01:24,130 --> 00:01:27,110 Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd Sync by Marocas62 26 00:01:31,130 --> 00:01:35,130 SILENT WITNESS Season 23 - Episode 02 27 00:01:35,940 --> 00:01:38,890 "Deadhead" Part 1 of 2 28 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,759 The last moments that plane was in the air, 29 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,819 it was trying to pull up. Which is why the tail hit the ground first? 30 00:01:54,820 --> 00:01:56,459 - Right. - So, what? 31 00:01:56,460 --> 00:02:01,139 Did Alex come around and find the plane in a steep dive? 32 00:02:01,140 --> 00:02:03,829 He was fighting to save the people on board? 33 00:02:03,830 --> 00:02:05,959 Nikki, you with me here or what? 34 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,350 - Can I catch you up? - Yeah. 35 00:02:17,370 --> 00:02:18,679 Hi, this is Matt. 36 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,120 I can't get to the phone. Please leave a message. 37 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,839 Well, everything's been catalogued and laid out, 38 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,599 so it's up to you what you want to see first. 39 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,799 - Great. - Sorry. 40 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,819 So what does the flight data recorder tell us? 41 00:02:39,820 --> 00:02:43,159 The FDR will give us stuff like the heading direction of the aircraft, 42 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,239 airspeed, altitude, et cetera. 43 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,309 But it's not going to tell us who was flying the plane? 44 00:02:48,310 --> 00:02:51,259 No. It won't tell us whose hands were on the controls, 45 00:02:51,260 --> 00:02:53,419 just that the inputs were being made. 46 00:02:53,420 --> 00:02:55,049 The plane was in a dive, 47 00:02:55,050 --> 00:02:56,859 then it levelled out, then dived again. 48 00:02:56,860 --> 00:02:59,349 Am I right in thinking that the nose came up just before impact? 49 00:02:59,350 --> 00:03:01,259 - Yes. - And that wasn't the autopilot? 50 00:03:01,260 --> 00:03:03,010 No, it wasn't engaged. 51 00:03:03,420 --> 00:03:06,100 OK. So the two steering yokes. 52 00:03:06,410 --> 00:03:08,049 They move in unison. 53 00:03:08,050 --> 00:03:10,009 Though the FDR can record that the plane 54 00:03:10,010 --> 00:03:11,569 was being moved or put into a dive, 55 00:03:11,570 --> 00:03:14,379 it won't be able to tell you which yoke, which pilot, did that. 56 00:03:14,380 --> 00:03:16,839 But you got fingerprints from both, right? 57 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,939 Yes. Extensive patterning on Alex's. Less so Cole's. 58 00:03:19,940 --> 00:03:22,849 Cole shouldn't be flying at all. He wasn't rostered to fly this trip. 59 00:03:22,850 --> 00:03:25,049 He was just a pilot hitching a lift home. 60 00:03:25,050 --> 00:03:27,270 - Can we see the steering yokes? - Sure. 61 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,110 - Which one had Cole's prints on it? - This one. 62 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:34,669 We're looking for blood. 63 00:03:34,670 --> 00:03:37,400 Cole had lacerations on the palms of his hands. 64 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,519 Yeah, there's handprints. 65 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,709 Where most of the blood is, 66 00:03:47,710 --> 00:03:50,930 it's where his hands would've been if he was flying the plane. 67 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,789 See here, these tears on his palms? 68 00:03:55,790 --> 00:03:57,099 Right. 69 00:03:57,100 --> 00:04:01,509 X-rays confirm fractures of the thumbs and both wrists. 70 00:04:01,510 --> 00:04:04,389 It's more than straightforward impact damage though. 71 00:04:04,390 --> 00:04:07,049 The way they're broken suggests specifically that his thumb 72 00:04:07,050 --> 00:04:10,109 and fingers were firmly closed around something on impact. 73 00:04:10,110 --> 00:04:13,029 Holding on to something like a steering column? 74 00:04:13,030 --> 00:04:14,439 More than holding on. 75 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,100 Fighting with it. Pulling back hard. 76 00:04:17,820 --> 00:04:20,369 Like maybe when you put the plane into a hard dive 77 00:04:20,370 --> 00:04:22,579 then changed your mind at the last minute? 78 00:04:22,580 --> 00:04:25,980 So, are we saying he was definitely flying the plane? 79 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,109 I can't confirm that, absolutely, but... 80 00:04:29,110 --> 00:04:32,020 but his injuries may be consistent with it, yes. 81 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:41,609 The aircraft's descending at six thousand feet per minute. 82 00:04:41,610 --> 00:04:43,489 But at fifteen hundred feet, 83 00:04:43,490 --> 00:04:45,589 whoever is flying the plane panics 84 00:04:45,590 --> 00:04:47,279 and tries to pull up. 85 00:04:47,280 --> 00:04:49,709 But too late to save the aircraft. 86 00:04:49,710 --> 00:04:51,129 And 15 seconds later, 87 00:04:51,130 --> 00:04:54,119 the tail and rear fuselage hit the ground. 88 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,779 Immediately after that the rest of the aircraft hits the ground. 89 00:04:57,780 --> 00:05:01,619 The cockpit and central section break away 90 00:05:01,620 --> 00:05:04,329 and the fuel tanks in the wings ignite 91 00:05:04,330 --> 00:05:07,529 and the passenger cabin bursts in to flames. 92 00:05:07,530 --> 00:05:11,440 This is all borne out by the Flight Data Recorder. 93 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,739 So, Rowan Cole. 94 00:05:14,740 --> 00:05:17,759 What were his movements before boarding the flight? 95 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,069 - Did you manage to... - Yes. 96 00:05:19,070 --> 00:05:22,369 He flew out of the UK the day before to pilot an empty aircraft 97 00:05:22,370 --> 00:05:24,959 from Schiphol Airport, Amsterdam, to Dubai. 98 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,089 But the job was cancelled. The client changed their mind. 99 00:05:28,090 --> 00:05:32,380 So he hitches a ride back to the UK on Juno 537. 100 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,309 When did he know he'd be on that flight, then? 101 00:05:35,310 --> 00:05:37,259 Just a couple of hours beforehand. 102 00:05:37,260 --> 00:05:39,819 It couldn't have been his intention to target Kraft then, could it? 103 00:05:39,820 --> 00:05:42,150 So it's pilot suicide? 104 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,319 A few people on the chatroom 105 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,189 are using a Virtual Private Network. 106 00:05:47,190 --> 00:05:50,649 Which is what, some sort of device to hide your identity? 107 00:05:50,650 --> 00:05:53,319 Normally your internet service provider 108 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,029 gives you an IP address 109 00:05:55,030 --> 00:05:58,259 that we can trace you to or ID you that way. 110 00:05:58,260 --> 00:06:02,329 You paid for it, so you'll have given them your info or whatever. 111 00:06:02,330 --> 00:06:05,069 - Yeah. - If you're using a VPN, 112 00:06:05,070 --> 00:06:09,609 it takes you to a remote server, usually in another country. 113 00:06:09,610 --> 00:06:13,849 - What, and that's it? - Yeah. In effect, that's who you are. 114 00:06:13,850 --> 00:06:16,259 The server. No name, no address, 115 00:06:16,260 --> 00:06:18,109 no payment details, nothing. 116 00:06:18,110 --> 00:06:20,489 This guy, Manfred. 117 00:06:20,490 --> 00:06:23,049 He's using multiple VPNs. 118 00:06:23,050 --> 00:06:26,319 If I trace him to a server, well, there's another and another and another. 119 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,599 - So he's untraceable? - Pretty much. 120 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,060 But here's the interesting thing. 121 00:06:31,670 --> 00:06:35,609 I traced this user to his ISP. 122 00:06:35,610 --> 00:06:37,489 The police got a warrant 123 00:06:37,490 --> 00:06:41,369 for LoneRangerUK78's payment details. 124 00:06:41,370 --> 00:06:43,699 He's your guy. 125 00:06:43,700 --> 00:06:45,640 Peter Sachs. 126 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,979 We've got more from Cole's smartphone. 127 00:06:52,980 --> 00:06:55,879 He's been communicating privately with Manfred 128 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,599 on a secure messaging app. 129 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,189 The messages were encrypted, but... 130 00:07:00,190 --> 00:07:02,699 This is how it looks after we got access. 131 00:07:02,700 --> 00:07:06,699 These are from a user called Ridley33. 132 00:07:06,700 --> 00:07:09,519 - Ridley meaning Rowan Cole? - Yes. 133 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,369 He's at Schiphol in Holland 134 00:07:11,370 --> 00:07:13,849 panicking because his flight's been cancelled. 135 00:07:13,850 --> 00:07:15,600 The Dubai flight presumably? 136 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,609 "Schiphol cancelled, 137 00:07:18,610 --> 00:07:22,939 "back to UK with one crew, three cabin, and me, deadhead." 138 00:07:22,940 --> 00:07:25,609 "Need to take my life so bad now." 139 00:07:25,610 --> 00:07:27,769 He's going to be on a flight with other people, 140 00:07:27,770 --> 00:07:30,639 but he still wants to bring it down. 141 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,219 So he's got a dilemma. 142 00:07:32,220 --> 00:07:35,709 He wants to die now, but that involves killing other people. 143 00:07:35,710 --> 00:07:38,380 Manfred tells him to do it anyway. 144 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,279 Manfred killed them. 145 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:49,129 By incitement. By inciting Rowan Cole. 146 00:07:49,130 --> 00:07:52,179 So who else is he private messaging? 147 00:07:52,180 --> 00:07:55,599 All the people on that chatroom are potentially at risk. 148 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,469 Ezra Heller, the boy on the plane. 149 00:07:58,470 --> 00:08:00,240 He's conscious. 150 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,150 - Help! - Dad! 151 00:09:07,050 --> 00:09:08,659 J0rdy6699: "I feel so bad" 152 00:09:08,660 --> 00:09:11,469 Lew1s_R8: "No point. What's done is done." 153 00:09:11,470 --> 00:09:12,779 J0rdy6699: "I don'tknow" 154 00:09:12,780 --> 00:09:15,239 J0rdy6699: "Decided. Whatever comes after it" 155 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:16,549 J0rdy6699: "=Better" 156 00:09:16,550 --> 00:09:18,409 J0rdy6699: "What I've done. Shameful." 157 00:09:18,410 --> 00:09:19,719 J0rdy6699: "Soon?" 158 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,170 J0rdy6699: "I'm ready." 159 00:09:39,130 --> 00:09:41,580 Lew1s_R8: "Are you sure? Please be sur. 160 00:09:46,590 --> 00:09:47,890 J0rdy6699: "Yes" 161 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,300 Ezra. 162 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,450 Was this your seat? Here by the window? 163 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,919 But you didn't stay in your seat, did you? 164 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,319 The other guy took me. 165 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,969 - To the flight deck? - To meet the captain. 166 00:10:16,970 --> 00:10:18,779 And then you went back to your seat? 167 00:10:18,780 --> 00:10:20,920 And while you were on the flight deck, 168 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,520 did you see him do anything, the other pilot? 169 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,700 - That's enough now. - He texted. 170 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,439 Just a minute, please. 171 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,279 He texted? 172 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:37,230 And you saw that clearly, did you, Ezra? 173 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,219 Did you see who he texted? 174 00:10:43,220 --> 00:10:44,529 Did they have a name? 175 00:10:44,530 --> 00:10:48,490 - No. - No. OK. 176 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:50,580 Well done, Ezra. 177 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,210 Thanks for that. 178 00:11:16,560 --> 00:11:18,310 How's he doing? 179 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:20,640 It's watch and wait. 180 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:23,800 Right. 181 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:28,860 It's so tough for you. 182 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,900 Telling him about his mum as well. 183 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,180 I'm sorry, I didn't... 184 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,080 He doesn't know. 185 00:11:45,680 --> 00:11:47,680 I can't tell him. 186 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,279 No, text. 187 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:00,999 Yeah, definitely text. 188 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,539 Here's Jack. I'm just going to put us on speaker phone. 189 00:12:03,540 --> 00:12:05,999 I've not started to try and recover texts, yet. 190 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:07,689 Everything was deleted. 191 00:12:07,690 --> 00:12:09,599 Just a sec. 192 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,109 Hi, Clarissa. 193 00:12:11,110 --> 00:12:14,099 There's a list of numbers Rowan Cole called and texted, 194 00:12:14,100 --> 00:12:16,459 but no content yet, not from the texts. 195 00:12:16,460 --> 00:12:19,709 It's in a file called RCTXT. 196 00:12:19,710 --> 00:12:21,010 Yep, I've found it. 197 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:27,069 Well, the last text he sent was at 05:34�m 198 00:12:27,070 --> 00:12:29,019 to 077 199 00:12:29,020 --> 00:12:32,829 00900475. 200 00:12:32,830 --> 00:12:35,870 So, 12 minutes or so before the plane went down. 201 00:12:36,310 --> 00:12:38,329 We're just looking that number up. 202 00:12:38,330 --> 00:12:42,520 The last person he contacted was a John Stanley. 203 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:45,919 His psychotherapist. 204 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:47,980 OK. I'll get a warrant. 205 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:55,080 So, when we spoke previously, why did you withhold that information? 206 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,109 Why didn't you tell me that he'd texted you from the aircraft? 207 00:13:00,110 --> 00:13:03,139 You must have realised it was relevant to our enquiries? 208 00:13:03,140 --> 00:13:05,490 How is it relevant who he texted? 209 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,750 I didn't tell you about it because I didn't think it was important. 210 00:13:12,180 --> 00:13:13,730 If it is. 211 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,380 And I didn't reply to it, so it wasn't a conversation. 212 00:13:18,560 --> 00:13:21,719 Rowan was searching for direction in his life. 213 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,729 Answers to things that had happened to him in the past. 214 00:13:24,730 --> 00:13:27,930 Childhood events he'd not been able to come to terms with. 215 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,540 He'd never been taught how to love freely. 216 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,200 His parents were damaged people. 217 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,950 And he couldn't accept that he was capable of being loved. 218 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,150 Or that he could love in return. 219 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,580 He didn't trust anyone. Me included. 220 00:13:55,700 --> 00:13:58,459 And progress was... 221 00:13:58,460 --> 00:14:00,819 limited, at best. 222 00:14:00,820 --> 00:14:04,559 I don't remember asking for an analysis of his psyche. 223 00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:06,920 - I'm sorry? - That's because I didn't. 224 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,899 Why did he text you? 225 00:14:10,900 --> 00:14:13,159 To thank me for our work together 226 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,639 and to tell me he wouldn't be around for a while. 227 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,310 - That all? - Yes. 228 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:19,739 So why delete it from your phone? 229 00:14:19,740 --> 00:14:22,819 I do that regularly. I delete old texts. 230 00:14:22,820 --> 00:14:24,559 See, I don't get why 231 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,219 he would text you 232 00:14:26,220 --> 00:14:27,529 at that moment 233 00:14:27,530 --> 00:14:30,089 just before the plane came down to tell you that? 234 00:14:30,090 --> 00:14:31,899 - Neither do I. - What was so important? 235 00:14:31,900 --> 00:14:33,959 I didn't even know he was on a plane. 236 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:35,919 I didn't realise that at the time. 237 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,259 But you did after it came down? You must have known then. 238 00:14:39,260 --> 00:14:41,759 His name was among the dead. It was across the press. 239 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,109 And yet when we spoke, you made a decision 240 00:14:44,110 --> 00:14:46,439 - not to mention something that you... - I was shocked. 241 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,330 - You were shocked? - Yes. 242 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,120 And ashamed. 243 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,680 With hindsight, I... 244 00:14:56,020 --> 00:14:58,249 ..think perhaps he got in touch with me 245 00:14:58,250 --> 00:14:59,750 because he wanted my help. 246 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,380 And what did I do? 247 00:15:03,050 --> 00:15:04,350 Nothing. 248 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,880 I didn't pick up on his desperation. 249 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,359 My fault. 250 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,770 Absolutely. The whole thing. My fault. 251 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:20,360 So you told me nothing because you felt guilty? 252 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,459 - Howdy. - Hello. I've sent you a pic. 253 00:15:47,460 --> 00:15:49,139 It's a wee bit of foil that pops out 254 00:15:49,140 --> 00:15:51,539 when you push a tablet through the blister pack, you know. 255 00:15:51,540 --> 00:15:53,200 Yeah, I've got it. 256 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:07,219 You'll be delighted to know it's from an Alprazolam pack. 257 00:16:07,220 --> 00:16:08,879 Fantastic. 258 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,280 You think it's a good thing he killed himself? 259 00:16:12,300 --> 00:16:15,750 Are you being rhetorical or are you actually asking me a question now? 260 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,159 People struggle. 261 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,800 And people recover. 262 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,939 You prey on them 263 00:16:25,940 --> 00:16:27,840 - when they're at their most vulnerable. - No! 264 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:33,930 My practice is founded on the principles of self-determination. 265 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:39,869 I try and help people to take responsibility 266 00:16:39,870 --> 00:16:42,100 for who they are and how they act. 267 00:16:43,420 --> 00:16:44,720 Who... 268 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,530 ..is Manfred? 269 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,610 Are you Manfred, Mr Stanley? 270 00:17:10,120 --> 00:17:14,320 Hiya. Jack has found evidence of Alprazolam at Stanley's apartment. 271 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,719 But he was prescribed it some years ago for insomnia. 272 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,169 - So he has it legitimately? - Yeah. 273 00:17:20,170 --> 00:17:22,999 And the prescription hasn't been renewed in over five years. 274 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,799 It's a fairly common drug. 275 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,969 And Jack hasn't found anything else. 276 00:17:26,970 --> 00:17:29,239 There's nothing to link Stanley to Peter Sachs 277 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,359 and there's no evidence on his computer 278 00:17:31,360 --> 00:17:32,969 that he was on that chatroom. 279 00:17:32,970 --> 00:17:34,879 Jack's going to take away his computer 280 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,489 - and look more deeply, but... - It's not enough. 281 00:17:37,490 --> 00:17:40,409 We'll have to let him go. We'll keep an eye on him. 282 00:17:40,410 --> 00:17:41,710 Thanks. 283 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,859 OK, that's all booked in for you. 284 00:17:52,860 --> 00:17:54,439 Would you like to add breakfast? 285 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,839 I'll just take the room for the night if that's all right. 286 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,149 - No problem. - Thanks. 287 00:17:58,150 --> 00:17:59,459 And I'll pay cash. 288 00:17:59,460 --> 00:18:01,550 This is Kyle. Leave a message. 289 00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:06,660 Ella? 290 00:18:07,980 --> 00:18:09,280 Ella? 291 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,140 Help! 292 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:58,720 Dad! 293 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,580 J0rdy6699: "Pills?" 294 00:19:24,890 --> 00:19:27,090 Lew1s_R8: "J0rdy6699, can I join you? 295 00:19:39,700 --> 00:19:41,000 J0rdy6699: "Yes" 296 00:19:44,950 --> 00:19:46,500 Lew1s_R8: "Do it together?" 297 00:19:50,310 --> 00:19:51,719 Manfred068: "Kind offerr." 298 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,319 Jack. 299 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:54,990 Manfred's online. 300 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,040 What have we got? 301 00:20:02,700 --> 00:20:04,060 Look. 302 00:20:06,370 --> 00:20:08,520 J0rdy6699: "So can you get me them?" 303 00:20:14,490 --> 00:20:15,790 Mandfred068: "On my way" 304 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,739 - DI Rosen. - It's Clarissa Mullery. 305 00:20:23,740 --> 00:20:25,359 I don't know if your people have flagged it, 306 00:20:25,360 --> 00:20:27,339 but there's been activity online. 307 00:20:27,340 --> 00:20:28,710 Manfred's on the move. 308 00:20:29,120 --> 00:20:31,500 Thanks. Yeah, we've got him. 309 00:20:33,120 --> 00:20:37,020 All units from DI Rosen, suspect is on move. 310 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,150 turning right into Thornton Rise. 311 00:20:42,740 --> 00:20:45,720 Suspect is turning right into Cerrington Road. 312 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,739 He's messaging again. Live. 313 00:20:51,740 --> 00:20:54,330 What's he doing? Typing and driving? 314 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:56,999 This guy's got serious pretensions. 315 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,729 Another message from Manfred. 316 00:20:58,730 --> 00:21:02,249 "Mohammed's coming to the mountain. Stay calm. 317 00:21:02,250 --> 00:21:05,139 "Won't be long now. Will leave it for you." 318 00:21:05,140 --> 00:21:07,069 - How's he doing that? - Voice command. 319 00:21:07,070 --> 00:21:09,760 - Auto-dictation. - He must have his phone on him. 320 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,719 He must be messaging that guy right now. 321 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,020 Let's grab him. 322 00:21:19,360 --> 00:21:21,119 All units. He's turning. 323 00:21:21,120 --> 00:21:23,720 He's going back the way we came. Up Thornton Rise. 324 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,599 All units, suspect is on Thornton Rise. 325 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,100 He's heading home. 326 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,350 Get out of the car. 327 00:21:39,780 --> 00:21:42,380 - What did I do? - Stand over there. 328 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:44,880 Raise your arms. 329 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,630 Where were you going, Mr Stanley? 330 00:21:57,140 --> 00:22:00,359 I was heading into town until I realised I'd forgotten my phone. 331 00:22:00,360 --> 00:22:02,079 Just stay there. 332 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,450 - Anything? - Car's clean, Guv. 333 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,330 It's not him, is it? 334 00:22:09,860 --> 00:22:11,700 He's not our man. 335 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,260 Kyle? 336 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,300 She's OK. 337 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,600 Where are you? 338 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:40,940 I'm sorry. 339 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,859 I shouldn't have said what I did. 340 00:22:43,860 --> 00:22:46,870 If you've taken her to punish me... 341 00:22:47,300 --> 00:22:48,940 No, no. 342 00:22:50,060 --> 00:22:51,700 That plane. 343 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,080 Something I said online made it happen. 344 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,870 So... I've got somebody helping me. 345 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,210 It's going to be OK. 346 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,590 We're going to be with Tommy soon. 347 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:10,980 I love you. 348 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:20,940 Kyle?! 349 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,929 Emergency services operator. Which service do you require? 350 00:23:28,930 --> 00:23:30,459 Police, please. 351 00:23:30,460 --> 00:23:31,850 Connecting you now. 352 00:23:34,850 --> 00:23:36,419 - Hi. - Hello, sir. 353 00:23:36,420 --> 00:23:38,979 I think someone may have left something for me here. 354 00:23:38,980 --> 00:23:40,519 Room 1020. 355 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,039 OK. One second. 356 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,080 - There you go. - Thanks. 357 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,119 What's your mum going to say? 358 00:23:50,120 --> 00:23:52,139 Do you think you could do it, Holly? 359 00:23:52,140 --> 00:23:54,120 I think you can. 360 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,720 - Help! - Dad! 361 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,110 Did Kyle talk about wanting to end his life? 362 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,030 We both did at the beginning. 363 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,180 At the beginning? 364 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,719 Yeah. 365 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,400 September last year. 366 00:24:39,110 --> 00:24:40,660 Can you tell me about that? 367 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,810 We had a son as well as a daughter. 368 00:24:50,180 --> 00:24:51,759 Tommy. 369 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,039 He was five years old. 370 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,879 Kyle took them out for the day. 371 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,480 I was working. 372 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,110 He was playing with Ella... 373 00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:07,030 ..and there was a lake. 374 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,460 When he realised... 375 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,880 ..Tommy was face down in the water. 376 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,550 I'm so sorry, Kate. 377 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,540 And Kyle blames himself? 378 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:28,680 It was him. 379 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,140 It was his fault. 380 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:37,820 Sorry. 381 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,610 What's happening, Matt? 382 00:25:58,200 --> 00:25:59,800 I don't know. I... 383 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,929 ..I was about to board my flight, and I thought, 384 00:26:02,930 --> 00:26:06,260 "What are you doing? "Why am I going?" 385 00:26:08,120 --> 00:26:11,070 Maybe it's all this stuff with Jonathan's death has... 386 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,890 ..reminded me of... 387 00:26:17,310 --> 00:26:19,329 of losing my brother Dan. 388 00:26:19,330 --> 00:26:20,660 I mean... 389 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,170 ..was there something I could have done to save them? 390 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,210 There is nothing in the world you could have done to save Jonathan. 391 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,340 Dan, then. 392 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,759 I mean, maybe if I was there, 393 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,350 I would have made sure that he didn't swim out so far or... 394 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,200 ..or something. I don't... 395 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,399 Look, I understand that's how it might feel, 396 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,500 but you can't spend a lifetime blaming yourself. 397 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:03,180 Yeah, but you don't understand how I feel, do you? 398 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,970 Because it didn't happen to you. 399 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,750 I don't know what to say. 400 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,800 I don't know what to do to make it better. 401 00:27:42,070 --> 00:27:44,270 I know people you can talk to. 402 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,909 This is what we know so far. 403 00:28:03,910 --> 00:28:05,919 Her husband called her. 404 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,050 She thinks he's suicidal. 405 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,199 She mentioned Juno 357 to the attending officers, 406 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,480 so obviously they flagged that up to us. 407 00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:17,659 - Mentioned what? - That Kyle was responsible, 408 00:28:17,660 --> 00:28:20,810 that he posted something online that encouraged the pilot. 409 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,439 I was told he'd left his smartphone behind. 410 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,010 Yeah. That's it. 411 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,280 He... probably didn't want it traced. 412 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,759 Wiped his browser history. 413 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,639 There's an app here. 414 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,090 It's the same app Manfred uses for personal messaging. 415 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,080 - I'm going to crack on with this. - Yeah, I'II... 416 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,400 Sorry about that. 417 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,520 Does the name Manfred mean anything to you? 418 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,240 Or Jordy...or Lewis? 419 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,430 Does that sound familiar? 420 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,160 You're doing great, Kate. 421 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,600 What do you think he's thinking right now? 422 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,610 In Kyle's head... 423 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,210 ..Tommy's in another place. 424 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,439 He said before, when it was bad, 425 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,960 he wanted us all to be there together. 426 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,639 It wasn't like a rational thing. 427 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,680 It was a reaction. 428 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,760 I wouldn't, obviously, 429 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,300 but Ella... 430 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,989 So Kyle's logic 431 00:29:39,990 --> 00:29:41,799 is that he wants to... 432 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,859 reunite himself and Ella with Tommy? 433 00:29:45,860 --> 00:29:48,080 Is that what you're saying? 434 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,229 OK. 435 00:29:54,230 --> 00:29:56,880 Kate, be back in a minute, all right? 436 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,699 He's been back online. 437 00:30:03,700 --> 00:30:05,679 Direct messages. 438 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,199 Calls himself Jordy6699. 439 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,799 Messaging Manfred? 440 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,279 Jordy's expecting something to be delivered, 441 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,199 and Manfred says he'll leave it for him somewhere. 442 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,500 Pills. 443 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,470 He asked them for them in the chatroom. 444 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,740 So why's he got his daughter with him? 445 00:33:04,700 --> 00:33:07,009 Lew1s_R8: "J0rdy6699, going to ask again," 446 00:33:07,010 --> 00:33:08,869 Lew1s_R8: "Can we do it together?" 447 00:33:08,870 --> 00:33:10,370 Lew1s_R8: "Real offer." 448 00:33:18,650 --> 00:33:19,950 J0rdy6699: "Yes." 449 00:33:21,260 --> 00:33:23,710 Lew1s_R8: "Meet somewhere special for you?" 450 00:33:24,070 --> 00:33:25,370 J0rdy6699: "Yes." 451 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,050 Got you, J0rdy6699. 452 00:34:15,720 --> 00:34:17,839 Kyle Cunningham's room, please. 453 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,710 OK, thanks. With me. 454 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,290 Go on. Check the room. 455 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,490 We had fun, didn't we? 456 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,470 You know I love you, right? 457 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,480 I love you, too, Dad. 458 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,510 All right. Take your stuff. 459 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,500 You've got to go home now. 460 00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,970 I said you got to go. 461 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,579 We've got a match. 462 00:35:55,580 --> 00:35:57,799 Fingerprints on the box of tablets 463 00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,969 match an unidentified profile 464 00:35:59,970 --> 00:36:02,960 found at Peter Sachs' house. 465 00:36:04,300 --> 00:36:08,279 You didn't go to the scene, the Peter Sachs scene, did you? 466 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,100 - No. Shall we take a look? - Yeah. 467 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,220 Yeah. 468 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,470 - This is where he shot himself? - Yeah. 469 00:36:20,270 --> 00:36:21,779 So if someone was with him, 470 00:36:21,780 --> 00:36:24,269 they'd come in through the main garage doors here. 471 00:36:24,270 --> 00:36:26,650 - This door into the house, maybe. - OK. 472 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:28,420 Where does this go? 473 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,200 I've got blood here. 474 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,140 These are from Peter Sachs' house. 475 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:58,880 These are from the crash site. 476 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,719 Same boot tread? 477 00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:03,120 Same boot tread. 478 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,999 So possibly the same person at both scenes. 479 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,959 We've got someone with Peter Sachs around the time he killed himself, 480 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,409 we think, and the same person visiting the crash site, 481 00:37:12,410 --> 00:37:13,919 visiting Rowan Cole. 482 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,039 Are we saying we have Manfred's fingerprints here? 483 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,649 Yep, and likely his footwear marks, too. 484 00:37:18,650 --> 00:37:19,959 We just don't have a name. 485 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,959 I've got a lead on the gun, too. 486 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,879 From the serial number you recovered, 487 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,590 it's registered to 488 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,710 Gregory Anthony Bell. 489 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,159 Died a couple of years ago. 490 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,159 Ex-parachute regiment. 491 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:34,919 Must be an old service weapon. 492 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,519 - Probably kept it after he was discharged. - Or sold it. 493 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,639 Somebody did after his death. 494 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,479 Cause of death - 495 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:42,780 suicide. 496 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,180 Can I just...? 497 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,200 He's got a son. 498 00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:00,170 POLICE! POLICE! POLICE! 499 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:01,860 Police! Police! 500 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:04,670 Hello? 501 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,819 - Hello. - I've unravelled the VPNs 502 00:38:40,820 --> 00:38:43,570 and traced Manfred and Lew1s' IP addresses. 503 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,309 They're the same. 504 00:38:45,310 --> 00:38:47,580 - They're the same? - Yes. 505 00:38:48,700 --> 00:38:50,609 You mean they're the same person? 506 00:38:50,610 --> 00:38:54,399 Yes. Lew1s_R8 is another online ID for the same guy, 507 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,319 for James Bell. 508 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,679 Son of Gregory Bell, the gun owner. 509 00:38:58,680 --> 00:38:59,980 Right. 510 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:01,930 Be careful, Jack. 511 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,239 - Anything? - Not yet, guv. 512 00:39:09,240 --> 00:39:10,540 Right. 513 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,800 This looks interesting. 514 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,759 - You want me to get the enforcer? - Nah. 515 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,160 Prefer a lighter touch. 516 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,480 - OK. - OK, let's see what we've got here. 517 00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:06,020 Trophies. 518 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,300 Peter Sachs' wedding ring maybe? Huh. 519 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,639 A tie pin. 520 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:18,949 Rowan Coles'? 521 00:40:18,950 --> 00:40:22,260 Maybe James Bell went out to the site, took a trophy from Rowan Cole. 522 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,199 Did he track the flight? 523 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:25,819 Maybe he knew in advance 524 00:40:25,820 --> 00:40:28,490 roughly where Cole was going to bring it down. One or the other. 525 00:40:29,240 --> 00:40:31,890 Juno Airlines. 526 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,180 Damage likely from the crash. 527 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,820 These were from James Bell's place. 528 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,130 - Clean? - Yeah. 529 00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:35,540 Blood. 530 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,900 Lots of tiny spots. 531 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,310 We need to send this off for DNA profiling straight away. 532 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:02,839 Lewis? 533 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,140 Yeah. 534 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,320 I hoped you'd say yes to me being here with you. 535 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:13,999 Come on. 536 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,300 Let's go. 537 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:20,950 It's hard to leave. 538 00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:24,770 Even when you really want to. 539 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:27,920 That instinct. 540 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:30,620 It's so strong. 541 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,380 DI Rosen. 542 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:42,900 Where? 543 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,150 OK. 544 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,690 ANPR's picked up Kyle Cunningham's van. 545 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,820 - Where? - Heading west out of London on the A4. 546 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:57,570 I told him to do it. 547 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:01,780 It was my fault. 548 00:43:03,720 --> 00:43:06,750 I'm responsible for the death of innocent people. 549 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:09,850 The people on that plane. 550 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,220 Tommy. 551 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,030 I don't set out to harm people, but it's like... 552 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,000 ..my presence, my energy, it's... 553 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,060 Better not here. 554 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,180 Yeah. 555 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:32,580 Better not here. 556 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,260 I feel the same. 557 00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:58,719 That's the last sighting of him? 558 00:43:58,720 --> 00:44:00,209 - Yeah. - So where's he going? 559 00:44:00,210 --> 00:44:02,439 What did Jim Bell say online to Kyle - 560 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,399 you know, about where to meet? 561 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,759 "Somewhere special for you." 562 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,239 His son drowned. 563 00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:10,110 Where? Where did that happen? 564 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,259 We never talk about Tommy any more. 565 00:45:24,260 --> 00:45:26,120 I can't remember his face. 566 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:33,380 Dad! 567 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:35,740 Help! 568 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:38,780 Help! 569 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,679 I love you, Dad. 570 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:52,980 Dad! 571 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,950 When are we going home? 572 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,310 I love you, Dad. 573 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:11,860 Kyle? 574 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:15,340 Kyle? 575 00:47:15,720 --> 00:47:17,020 Kyle? 576 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:18,720 Can you hear me? 577 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:21,880 Kyle. 578 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:37,829 Jim Bell. 579 00:47:37,830 --> 00:47:39,790 I think you might be looking for me. 580 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,030 Just need this, please. 581 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,559 I don't pretend to know if there's an afterlife. 582 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,129 Of course I don't. 583 00:47:56,130 --> 00:47:58,150 I don't preach religious dogma. 584 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,450 But I've been on the cusp of life and death. 585 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:10,450 I've seen it. 586 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,660 I watched my father suffer. 587 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,130 I held his hand. 588 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,470 Tell me about the chatroom. 589 00:48:19,970 --> 00:48:21,279 If you read my posts, 590 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,999 you'll see they're mainly about the sanctity of life. 591 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,439 The joy of it. 592 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,150 And encouraging desperate men to take their own lives. 593 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,479 You had a message exchange with Rowan Cole 594 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,299 when he was at Schiphol Airport in Amsterdam. 595 00:48:35,300 --> 00:48:36,709 Did I? 596 00:48:36,710 --> 00:48:38,099 He messaged you 597 00:48:38,100 --> 00:48:40,919 to say that he was being put on an alternative flight 598 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,229 but that he still needed to take his own life, 599 00:48:43,230 --> 00:48:44,810 and you replied... 600 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,159 .."Don't hesitate." 601 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,389 Yes, take the flight. Don't hesitate. 602 00:48:51,390 --> 00:48:53,319 - Come on! - Don't wait there alone. 603 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:54,999 Come home. Get help. 604 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,550 You're saying what you wrote him is open to interpretation, are you? 605 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,319 When you were arrested, 606 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,319 you were wearing Kyle Cunningham's wedding ring. 607 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:08,639 Why was that? 608 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,299 He gave it to me to give to his wife. 609 00:49:11,300 --> 00:49:13,179 So you had arranged to meet, then? 610 00:49:13,180 --> 00:49:14,729 In a way, yeah. 611 00:49:14,730 --> 00:49:17,029 He'd hinted previously that he would go there, 612 00:49:17,030 --> 00:49:18,739 and I went to try and find him. 613 00:49:18,740 --> 00:49:22,750 And when you found him, you just, what, walked away? 614 00:49:24,240 --> 00:49:27,009 I believe people have the right to self-determination. 615 00:49:27,010 --> 00:49:28,919 - People in distress? - Yes. 616 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,519 People who might be mentally ill? 617 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,199 People who could be helped? 618 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,209 - Kyle Cunningham wanted to live. - No. 619 00:49:35,210 --> 00:49:38,319 No. He crawled out of that place on his hands and knees. 620 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,250 He's in A&E now. 621 00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:42,999 He told me he wanted to die. 622 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,679 No. You told him that. 623 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:49,519 He reached out for help, and you told him to take his own life. 624 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,279 Why would you do that? 625 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,759 Because you like the feeling of power it gives you? 626 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,289 People have the right to choose. 627 00:49:55,290 --> 00:49:57,119 Like your father? 628 00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,399 He chose what he wanted for himself, did he, 629 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,309 when he took his own life? 630 00:50:01,310 --> 00:50:03,790 Or did you choose that for him? 631 00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:09,240 Tell me about Peter Sachs' wedding ring. 632 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,159 He gave it to me, like Kyle did. 633 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,399 Also to pass on to his wife? 634 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,019 No, for myself, 635 00:50:18,020 --> 00:50:20,459 as a gift for trying to help. 636 00:50:20,460 --> 00:50:22,269 His wedding ring. 637 00:50:22,270 --> 00:50:24,650 His marriage meant nothing to him. 638 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:26,740 It was a token. 639 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,180 We all know what this is, Jim. 640 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,679 These are killings, pure and simple. 641 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,930 A kind of murder by proxy. 642 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,349 You get to kill all these people 643 00:50:39,350 --> 00:50:42,159 without actually having to lay a hand on them. 644 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,710 You just encourage them to do it to themselves, 645 00:50:45,220 --> 00:50:48,890 and then you take a token to remember them by 646 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:53,839 and to remind yourself of how powerful you are. 647 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,780 - How clever. - No. 648 00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,280 They were all desperate men in their own different ways. 649 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,719 I just tried to help. That's all I did. 650 00:51:04,720 --> 00:51:06,300 Is that how it began... 651 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:08,510 ..with your father - 652 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,490 helping to end his suffering? 653 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,050 But it felt good, right? 654 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:17,919 And all of a sudden, 655 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,959 there you are 656 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,780 with all this power. 657 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,679 So we've got enough to charge him with assisting a suicide, 658 00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,269 certainly for Kyle Cunningham, 659 00:51:32,270 --> 00:51:35,130 but we can't prove any more than that, can we? 660 00:51:36,980 --> 00:51:39,139 This is Peter Sachs' wedding ring that 661 00:51:39,140 --> 00:51:41,640 Bell says he gave to him. Want to take a look? 662 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,700 - You see it? - Sure. 663 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,839 It's a small amount of gunshot residue. 664 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,119 Which means the ring was removed from the hand 665 00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,009 after the gun had been fired. 666 00:51:51,010 --> 00:51:52,319 After? 667 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,009 Which in turn proves it wasn't given to Bell by Peter Sachs. 668 00:51:55,010 --> 00:51:57,199 Sachs was already dead when Bell took it. 669 00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:58,509 So you're saying 670 00:51:58,510 --> 00:52:00,839 James Bell was actually with Peter Sachs 671 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,039 - when he shot himself? - More than that. My turn. 672 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:05,759 James Bell's clothing. 673 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,979 So this is the shirt we found at his house. 674 00:52:07,980 --> 00:52:10,989 DNA confirms it is Peter Sachs' blood. 675 00:52:10,990 --> 00:52:12,879 When a gun is fired at someone from close range, 676 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,899 you can get a fine mist of blood spraying back from the entry wound. 677 00:52:15,900 --> 00:52:17,209 - OK. - Peter's hand 678 00:52:17,210 --> 00:52:19,119 showed a minimal amount of this. 679 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:20,850 James Bell's shirt sleeve, 680 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:22,740 covered in it. 681 00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,609 Obviously, we can't say exactly what happened. 682 00:52:25,610 --> 00:52:28,710 Perhaps Peter Sachs changed his mind, but... 683 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:30,840 James Bell pulled the trigger. 684 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,189 James Bell, 685 00:52:53,190 --> 00:52:56,020 I am charging you with the murder of Peter Sachs 686 00:52:56,730 --> 00:52:59,609 and the manslaughter of Alex Vitarnen, Jonathan Kraft 687 00:52:59,610 --> 00:53:00,910 and Miriam Heller, 688 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,059 and, under Section Two of the Suicide Act, 689 00:53:04,060 --> 00:53:07,479 encouraging or assisting the suicide of Rowan Cole 690 00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,720 and your father Gregory Anthony Bell. 691 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,350 Hey. Hey, mate. 692 00:53:24,240 --> 00:53:26,940 You want anything? What can I get you? 693 00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,660 Are you ever going to tell me about Mum? 694 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,309 I'm just waiting for Nikki. 695 00:54:31,310 --> 00:54:33,500 - Sure. - How's it going? 696 00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:35,870 Good. You? 697 00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:37,749 Yeah. 698 00:54:37,750 --> 00:54:39,359 Sorry to hear about your friend. 699 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,510 Nikki told me you worked together. 700 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,340 Yeah, he was a good guy. 701 00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,240 He was working with Syrian refugees. 702 00:54:49,570 --> 00:54:50,879 Kind of my area. 703 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,830 I was in Damascus for a couple of years. 704 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,649 At the conference in Amsterdam, 705 00:54:56,650 --> 00:54:59,069 he had asked me to go along as an advisor. 706 00:54:59,070 --> 00:55:01,270 - OK. - And I said yes, 707 00:55:01,720 --> 00:55:03,480 but then I pulled out... 708 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,400 ..so I could spend time with Nikki. 709 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,070 You telling me you should have been on the plane? 710 00:55:12,770 --> 00:55:14,470 I haven't told Nikki yet. 711 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:19,500 Hi. 712 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,640 I wasn't expecting you. 713 00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,269 I'm going to leave you guys to it. I've left something in here. 714 00:55:29,270 --> 00:55:31,380 - Good to see you. - Yeah. 715 00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:40,260 Hi. 716 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:44,220 Hi. 717 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:22,050 - Nikki Alexander, pathologist. - Jack Hodgson, forensics. 718 00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,279 There are strong indicators 719 00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,310 that the body discovered this morning is Jason. 720 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,240 So when you going to pick Malcolm Wilde up? 721 00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,240 I've swabbed for DNA. We'll see what comes back. 722 00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,239 How'd you come by those scratches on your neck? 723 00:56:38,240 --> 00:56:40,279 Despite what people want to believe, 724 00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:44,010 the person responsible's unlikely to be an outsider. 725 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,709 Do you see a freezer big enough to store a body? 726 00:56:50,710 --> 00:56:53,178 We're talking about the reputation 727 00:56:53,179 --> 00:56:55,589 of an assistant commissioner 728 00:56:55,590 --> 00:56:58,199 widely tipped for the top job. 729 00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,309 It's not my fault you're desperate and he's not cracking! 730 00:57:01,310 --> 00:57:04,290 Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd Sync by Marocas62 53008

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