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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:30,235 --> 00:00:34,645 - How are you? - Everything good. - Come in. Take a seat. 2 00:00:34,693 --> 00:00:37,527 - Do you want a coffee? - Er... No, thanks. 3 00:00:38,235 --> 00:00:41,851 You followed what happened with the book by Carsten Villar? 4 00:00:41,902 --> 00:00:46,560 - I read it in the newspapers. Has been attacked very hard. - Yes. 5 00:00:46,610 --> 00:00:48,270 LA MARUDE 6 00:00:48,318 --> 00:00:51,271 - Is this the book with the lawyers' notes? - Yes. 7 00:00:51,318 --> 00:00:53,855 It's awesome. 8 00:00:53,902 --> 00:00:58,062 - He is brave, he exposes himself to everything and everyone. - Yeah. Or he is masochist. 9 00:00:58,110 --> 00:01:03,266 You can't write a novel about politics using transparent pseudonyms... 10 00:01:03,318 --> 00:01:07,728 ...accusing anyone of the worst depravity and thinking of "getting away with it". 11 00:01:07,777 --> 00:01:12,400 I, on the other hand, would believe the opposite, that many have an interest in making it go unnoticed. 12 00:01:12,443 --> 00:01:14,684 Not journalists and bloggers. 13 00:01:14,735 --> 00:01:19,607 - It's news that on Twitter becomes irrepressible. - I thought you couldn't read the books anymore. 14 00:01:19,652 --> 00:01:23,149 True, there are fewer readers and more books, but there is more tension. 15 00:01:25,402 --> 00:01:28,685 I have the impression that writing make people hysterical. 16 00:01:28,735 --> 00:01:32,018 - What do you mean by that? - That makes them wary, scares them. 17 00:01:32,068 --> 00:01:35,731 Less read and the more they see the writing with suspicion. 18 00:01:35,777 --> 00:01:39,902 I think we live in civilization of writing, look at the Internet. 19 00:01:39,943 --> 00:01:43,985 We write more, more often and, on the contrary of what is said, with some attention. 20 00:01:44,027 --> 00:01:47,974 - Well, it's still a minority. - It will be a minority but it is still a lot of people. 21 00:01:48,027 --> 00:01:50,516 More people who write more and better. 22 00:01:50,568 --> 00:01:54,231 - Four lines on Twitter don't... - Why not? Why? 23 00:01:54,277 --> 00:01:56,813 It's like under the Ancien Régime. 24 00:01:56,860 --> 00:02:01,151 People make jokes. I find it very French. 25 00:02:01,193 --> 00:02:03,185 There is nothing new. 26 00:02:03,235 --> 00:02:08,273 - There's only more people making jokes and that shares more. - Even very bad jokes! 27 00:02:08,318 --> 00:02:11,187 Yes, and in bad taste: they have always been there. 28 00:02:11,235 --> 00:02:14,981 - All this favors narcissism. - Eh, yes. 29 00:02:15,027 --> 00:02:17,979 The era is narcissistic. What can you do? 30 00:02:18,027 --> 00:02:20,860 It ruins the relationship with art and with artists. 31 00:02:20,902 --> 00:02:26,140 - You are no less narcissistic than others: all we are. - Wait, I don't understand what you mean. 32 00:02:26,193 --> 00:02:28,860 I reject this materialistic society. 33 00:02:28,902 --> 00:02:32,233 His obsession with money, the cult of the body and clothes. 34 00:02:32,277 --> 00:02:37,149 You're trivializing. Asked about the your radicality, it is no less narcissistic. 35 00:02:38,610 --> 00:02:43,103 You know how I live. If my wife not working, I would ask for the subsidy. 36 00:02:43,152 --> 00:02:46,270 - Do I have the right to judge the world? - Of course you have the right. 37 00:02:46,318 --> 00:02:50,396 I'm just saying that this radicalism he is equally narcissistic. 38 00:02:50,443 --> 00:02:53,478 It is by far the most coveted commodity. 39 00:02:53,527 --> 00:02:56,099 Sorry, you don't want to deprive us of this too. 40 00:02:56,152 --> 00:02:59,565 Do what you want, think what you want and I'll do it. 41 00:02:59,610 --> 00:03:02,977 - I don't recognize you, you know? - Let's go to eat? 42 00:03:10,402 --> 00:03:13,152 - Good morning, Pamela. - Good morning. - What a crush. - We don't complain. 43 00:03:13,193 --> 00:03:16,393 - Will it be time? - It's Monday, the Thai is closed. - Ah here. 44 00:03:16,443 --> 00:03:19,526 - Do we sit down there? - Please make yourselves comfortable. - Thank you. 45 00:03:20,777 --> 00:03:23,148 That's our table. 46 00:03:28,860 --> 00:03:31,231 - Did you receive the statement? - Yup. 47 00:03:31,277 --> 00:03:34,477 "Foundation" is fine. He still sells, in short. 48 00:03:34,527 --> 00:03:38,522 Yes, it's 10 years, it's stable. Even the pocket version. 49 00:03:38,570 --> 00:03:42,104 No, because the others are a bit stagnant. 50 00:03:42,152 --> 00:03:45,151 Yes, the others stagnate at the bottom. 51 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,940 - "The goodbyes ..." - "... in a low voice." - "The goodbyes in a low voice", yes. 52 00:03:49,985 --> 00:03:52,273 It has not exactly depopulated. 53 00:03:52,318 --> 00:03:56,265 - We have not contributed to deforestation. - No. 54 00:03:56,318 --> 00:03:59,981 It's a "worst-seller", as they say. 55 00:04:00,027 --> 00:04:02,065 Yes, it happens. 56 00:04:04,152 --> 00:04:07,684 - I met your ex-wife. What's your name? - Solange. 57 00:04:07,735 --> 00:04:09,478 Solange, yes. 58 00:04:09,527 --> 00:04:13,059 - Because in "Gli adii" it's not called that. - Yes, Véronique. 59 00:04:13,110 --> 00:04:16,310 Véronique Pastoureau. It's true. 60 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,900 - He told me he was sick. - Yes, it seems serious enough. 61 00:04:20,943 --> 00:04:24,559 - Do you see yourself? - No. No, she left me, so... 62 00:04:25,527 --> 00:04:29,687 - I think he suffers. - I do not know. Probably yes. 63 00:04:29,735 --> 00:04:34,689 It was very painful for me, so I don't feel like talking about it again. 64 00:04:34,735 --> 00:04:39,974 - Frankly it made me very sorry, since they bind us with memories. - Yup. 65 00:04:40,027 --> 00:04:43,310 The Barcelona Book Fair, when he was completely drunk. 66 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:48,563 - Excuse me, Alain, I don't have much want to talk about it. - Oh, sure, I understand. 67 00:04:48,610 --> 00:04:51,893 - Is Valérie okay? - Oh, yes, very good. Well... 68 00:04:51,943 --> 00:04:55,227 - He is always a parliamentary assistant. - About David? 69 00:04:55,277 --> 00:04:58,276 Yes, it is always away. 70 00:04:58,318 --> 00:05:02,776 Tell her I really appreciate it David's positions are brave. 71 00:05:02,818 --> 00:05:07,477 - Especially those on culture in Brussels. - Sure, I'll tell you. 72 00:05:07,527 --> 00:05:11,604 And she will surely tell him. And it will make him happy, I guess. 73 00:05:11,652 --> 00:05:13,560 Yes. 74 00:05:13,610 --> 00:05:17,557 - Here you are. - Thanks. - As a dish of the day there is the veal stew. - Yup. 75 00:05:17,610 --> 00:05:22,067 So, I take the usual: steak in blood, green and half natural salad. 76 00:05:22,110 --> 00:05:25,145 - Thank you. - And for her? - Don't you take the appetizer? - No. 77 00:05:25,193 --> 00:05:28,311 - But take it, if you want. - Agree. 78 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,940 I, instead, take... paté, please... 79 00:05:31,985 --> 00:05:36,939 ...and then... turbot with aioli sauce. 80 00:05:36,985 --> 00:05:41,311 - The turbot. - Here. - Well. - Do you want some wine? - For me no. - Thank you. 81 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,482 Thank you, gentlemen. 82 00:05:44,568 --> 00:05:46,690 Then... 83 00:05:46,735 --> 00:05:50,647 - You know, Valérie is a bit her... Oriane. Oh yeah. - Yup. 84 00:05:50,693 --> 00:05:58,433 - And Xenia is Stephanie Volkowski. Channel 8 presenter, do you know? - Yup. 85 00:05:58,485 --> 00:06:02,776 - I'm talking about the manuscript. - Yes. - Maybe you read it. 86 00:06:02,818 --> 00:06:08,188 - Yes, yes. Yes, I read it, sure. I wanted to talk to you about it. - Yup. 87 00:06:08,235 --> 00:06:11,353 - We're here for that, to talk about it. - Yup. 88 00:06:11,402 --> 00:06:16,772 I liked it. It seems very in line with what you've written in recent years. 89 00:06:16,818 --> 00:06:21,856 Well, yes, I feel like I have embarked on an almost necessary path. 90 00:06:23,152 --> 00:06:29,018 And that scene where they meet by chance in the DIY department... 91 00:06:29,068 --> 00:06:33,395 - Yes, it really happened to me. - I imagined. It's very exciting. 92 00:06:33,443 --> 00:06:36,063 And then the fact that you tell it in fragments... 93 00:06:36,110 --> 00:06:39,726 We no longer know if it is she who speaks or if that's what you're afraid of telling you. 94 00:06:39,777 --> 00:06:43,060 Or rather, what I should have said... 95 00:06:45,193 --> 00:06:50,895 ...if it had been more lucid, or... 96 00:06:50,943 --> 00:06:54,559 No, the right word to say is not "lucid"... 97 00:06:54,610 --> 00:06:55,524 - More honest? - No. 98 00:06:57,277 --> 00:06:58,936 More... 99 00:07:01,860 --> 00:07:05,689 - If she had been more cruel. - Oh yes. 100 00:07:07,068 --> 00:07:10,067 It's very hard... but it's true. 101 00:07:13,027 --> 00:07:17,187 - There was no such scene in another novel of yours? - Ah, yes, in... 102 00:07:17,235 --> 00:07:21,016 - In "Police Report". - Quite right. Is it recent? 103 00:07:21,068 --> 00:07:24,565 - 8 years ago. - Ah, no, then it's not recent. 104 00:07:26,318 --> 00:07:30,313 I talked about it the other day with Constance, the new press officer. 105 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,900 She really likes "Police Report". It's one of his favorite books. 106 00:07:34,943 --> 00:07:38,191 Have you seen? I remember that you were not convinced at the time. 107 00:07:38,235 --> 00:07:40,938 - Yes... It does age well instead. - Mm, fine. 108 00:07:40,939 --> 00:07:45,976 And so Constance asked me why I had not continued on that strand. 109 00:07:46,027 --> 00:07:49,725 Well, you know, why do it again? 110 00:07:49,777 --> 00:07:52,646 Don't do it again, but... prolong it. 111 00:07:55,360 --> 00:08:00,812 You wanted me to continue to write something about that genre? 112 00:08:00,860 --> 00:08:06,277 - No, no, no... - Do you have doubts? - No. 113 00:08:06,318 --> 00:08:07,481 Questions? 114 00:08:08,943 --> 00:08:14,360 Questions... Yes, in short, of the questions I ask myself about myself. 115 00:08:14,402 --> 00:08:18,443 - They don't affect your text. - But it is my text that it is. 116 00:08:18,485 --> 00:08:25,147 No, it is your text that stimulates reflection, but it is a reflection that goes beyond your text. 117 00:08:26,485 --> 00:08:28,276 What do you mean? 118 00:08:28,318 --> 00:08:33,024 I'm just wondering if... 119 00:08:33,068 --> 00:08:37,229 ...compared to our age, we're not both cut off... 120 00:08:37,277 --> 00:08:41,058 ...from what happens or that could happen. 121 00:08:41,110 --> 00:08:45,982 But who writes books and who publishes them it is out of phase with its own era. 122 00:08:47,902 --> 00:08:50,854 - Gentlemen, here's the paté. - Ah, yes, for me. - For him. 123 00:08:50,902 --> 00:08:53,652 - Well. Enjoy your meal. - Thank you. 124 00:08:59,943 --> 00:09:03,357 - So... thanks for lunch. - Yes, sorry, nothing. 125 00:09:03,402 --> 00:09:09,898 - If you want to take a look at some books... - I've already looked at it. There's not much for me. 126 00:09:09,943 --> 00:09:14,353 - Well. I go. - See you soon. - Yes, see you soon. - Hello. 127 00:09:14,527 --> 00:09:17,691 - Eh... But... - Yup? 128 00:09:17,735 --> 00:09:21,315 - For the manuscript then... - Thing? 129 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:25,402 - Well, do you have a date? - I do not understand. 130 00:09:25,443 --> 00:09:28,110 For publication. 131 00:09:29,027 --> 00:09:31,398 You'll publish it, won't you? 132 00:09:31,443 --> 00:09:35,521 No, I won't publish it. I thought you understood. 133 00:09:48,027 --> 00:09:49,853 Here I am. 134 00:09:50,235 --> 00:09:52,476 They all arrived. 135 00:09:52,527 --> 00:09:57,185 - Sorry I'm late. - You are never on time. - I was in a meeting with Laure. - It's warm. Laure? 136 00:09:57,235 --> 00:10:01,182 Laure d'Angerville, I told you about her. Work on the development of digital editions. 137 00:10:01,318 --> 00:10:07,932 Ah, yes, the brilliant one, who studied business and has a sexual predator look. I understood. 138 00:10:07,985 --> 00:10:10,142 That's right. 139 00:10:10,193 --> 00:10:15,079 Today it is simple. I have more readers on my blog than in the bookstore. 140 00:10:15,110 --> 00:10:17,600 You can't complain, your book started well. 141 00:10:17,652 --> 00:10:22,109 - Come on, be honest! I've seen batteries and batteries at the Carrefour! - It's a success. 142 00:10:22,152 --> 00:10:25,400 We will make an audio book. They go very well. 143 00:10:25,443 --> 00:10:28,396 - I thought I'd ask Catherine Deneuve. - I'm in. 144 00:10:28,443 --> 00:10:31,691 - He will never accept. - What do you know? It seems to be very kind. 145 00:10:31,735 --> 00:10:36,856 - I have 5,000 visits a day on my blog. - A day?! - Yup! - I do not believe it! 146 00:10:36,902 --> 00:10:40,315 - What are you talking about on the blog? - But... I don't know... about current events. 147 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:45,599 - Non-literary current affairs. - No, of that that interests me and interests people. 148 00:10:45,652 --> 00:10:49,812 The fact is that they read me. And they read me more easily online than on paper. 149 00:10:49,860 --> 00:10:54,732 - Sure, it's free. - People are obsessed with free stuff. -In a crisis period it is normal. 150 00:10:54,777 --> 00:10:58,937 I mean... They want to that art is free, not computer science. 151 00:10:58,985 --> 00:11:04,355 - What do you mean? - No one gets problems to spend 1500 euros for a computer. 152 00:11:04,402 --> 00:11:08,479 In addition to the cost of the Internet subscription. Whether there is a crisis or not. 153 00:11:08,527 --> 00:11:14,441 While spending to buy music, or books, or even the newspaper creates a huge problem. 154 00:11:14,485 --> 00:11:21,147 - Yes, but the books are much less pirated. Not there is comparison. - Because young people read less. 155 00:11:21,193 --> 00:11:25,651 The real pirates are Internet providers. They sell content that is not theirs. 156 00:11:25,693 --> 00:11:30,103 The fact is that art has lost its meaning and integrity, so it must be free. 157 00:11:30,152 --> 00:11:34,229 - Many good people think so. - And many decent people think otherwise. 158 00:11:34,277 --> 00:11:40,641 It is easy to hide behind the ideas of art modern to then download "Fast and Furious". 159 00:11:40,693 --> 00:11:45,352 - You're simplifying. - Fuck you! We have dinner? - Gladly. 160 00:11:45,402 --> 00:11:49,479 - I'm just saying that not all sectors... - Who's helping me out? - Arrival. 161 00:11:49,777 --> 00:11:52,729 Please, take the sweets. You can put them there. 162 00:11:53,235 --> 00:11:57,396 ...Like information, it must be free because it is considered false and manipulative. 163 00:11:57,443 --> 00:11:59,435 If we paid, we would respect it. 164 00:11:59,485 --> 00:12:04,818 It is distorted by the power of lobbies, by conformism of journalists. He lost credibility. 165 00:12:04,860 --> 00:12:10,063 While the voices, the most absurd, confirmed by unverifiable experts, "if they drink them" immediately. 166 00:12:11,318 --> 00:12:13,855 No! I've heard this a thousand times. 167 00:12:13,902 --> 00:12:16,771 Come on, look, it wasn't the Internet to invent the voices. 168 00:12:16,818 --> 00:12:19,390 And modern states they are not the first to manipulate them. 169 00:12:19,443 --> 00:12:23,983 Let's learn to think to avoid this drift! Maybe that's what books are for. 170 00:12:24,027 --> 00:12:29,646 - Only we learn less and less. - Oh yes? - Yes, it looks like an evolving virus. 171 00:12:29,693 --> 00:12:32,692 The writing will be dematerialized. It is inevitable. 172 00:12:33,777 --> 00:12:38,898 - But, sorry... You read the manuscripts on the tablet now. - Not everybody. 173 00:12:38,943 --> 00:12:42,191 - I don't read on the tablet. - Because it is not of your age. 174 00:12:42,652 --> 00:12:44,985 It does not belong to your education. No offense! 175 00:12:46,027 --> 00:12:50,317 Look at the new generations that are grown up with the computer. It's all different. 176 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:55,351 - Objectively, however, they read less. - False. Take the proliferation of blogs! 177 00:12:55,402 --> 00:12:58,851 - Just prove that there are more people than them write. - And they have time to waste. - Yup. 178 00:12:59,735 --> 00:13:05,484 I disagree, you write to me more than before. The Internet has freed the word. 179 00:13:05,527 --> 00:13:08,360 What kind of word do you mean? A kind of uncontainable flow? 180 00:13:08,860 --> 00:13:11,184 Thank you very much! 181 00:13:11,235 --> 00:13:15,479 - I wasn't referring to your blog. - Of course! 182 00:13:15,527 --> 00:13:18,230 - Which by the way I don't read. Instead I read your books. - Ah. - Ah. 183 00:13:19,235 --> 00:13:21,559 Then you are definitely in the minority. 184 00:13:21,610 --> 00:13:25,901 It is because my blog is visited that one Some users buy my books. 185 00:13:25,943 --> 00:13:28,515 From there its relative success of which Alain spoke. 186 00:13:28,568 --> 00:13:31,521 - Yes, but your books are more read on the Kindle. - It's true. 187 00:13:31,568 --> 00:13:35,398 Figures in hand, the strongest readers are the elderly. 188 00:13:35,443 --> 00:13:39,983 And more or less, more retirees. And among pensioners, plus women. 189 00:13:40,027 --> 00:13:41,651 They all went to the e-reader. 190 00:13:41,693 --> 00:13:46,151 - It is more practical, easy, light, manageable. - He has big letters. 191 00:13:46,193 --> 00:13:49,642 If you go on a trip, in the Kindle you can put all your library there. 192 00:13:49,693 --> 00:13:52,858 I don't care about traveling with it all my library? I take a book. 193 00:13:52,902 --> 00:13:55,107 It will be lighter than a Kindle, right? 194 00:13:55,527 --> 00:13:56,859 - And it doesn't have to be recharged. - Exactly. 195 00:13:56,902 --> 00:14:02,058 You are prejudiced, but it is reality. In the future we will read fewer books and do it on e-readers. 196 00:14:02,110 --> 00:14:06,899 - Then I insist! - But no! - Selena, enough with vodka! 197 00:14:09,443 --> 00:14:13,652 I'm wondering: why not pass immediately all in digital? 198 00:14:13,693 --> 00:14:18,151 Economically it doesn't make sense. The books sell. Less than before, but they sell. 199 00:14:18,193 --> 00:14:20,481 - The chain works. - Yes, but it will soon change. 200 00:14:20,527 --> 00:14:24,107 If we eliminate intermediaries, distributors, booksellers, printers, only publishers and authors remain. 201 00:14:26,402 --> 00:14:30,231 - So the publishing house becomes a website. - Yes, you can call it site. 202 00:14:30,277 --> 00:14:35,859 A site that does the same work on manuscripts, the same procedure, with the same needs. 203 00:14:35,902 --> 00:14:40,560 - It's very depressing. - It is for you, not for those who have already switched to electronic books. 204 00:14:40,610 --> 00:14:44,190 Still the e-books, the e-books?! All right. 205 00:14:44,235 --> 00:14:49,735 - Do you find it so funny? - But yes! - It does not change nothing, get rid of manufacturing. 206 00:14:49,777 --> 00:14:54,400 - The agreements with the authors remain the same. - For example, My blog would be on your site. 207 00:14:54,443 --> 00:14:58,770 Sure. They will do exactly the same things you do with books. 208 00:14:58,818 --> 00:15:04,437 Perhaps even better, because we will focus on it on the essential, without packaging, logistics. 209 00:15:04,485 --> 00:15:09,392 - Someone will be fired. - No, it will be done less than some but they will hire others. 210 00:15:09,443 --> 00:15:11,518 There will be no less work. 211 00:15:11,568 --> 00:15:15,231 Thus, literary prizes you will vote distance: click. 212 00:15:15,277 --> 00:15:18,560 - Awarding by e-mail. - Why not with Amazon Prime! 213 00:15:18,610 --> 00:15:23,067 Yes, and then, to meet readers video conferences will be held. 214 00:15:23,110 --> 00:15:27,484 - We do this already. - Everything is thought why people don't come out of the house anymore. 215 00:15:27,527 --> 00:15:31,391 - It's a bit gloomy, isn't it? - It's another era, we're at a turning point. 216 00:15:31,443 --> 00:15:37,477 Read Adorno on the iPad or in its original edition on parchment has no effect on the contents. 217 00:15:37,527 --> 00:15:41,604 I really doubt they are there original editions of Adorno on parchment. 218 00:15:41,652 --> 00:15:46,606 - You didn't read it much. - No, it was just to say. 219 00:15:46,652 --> 00:15:50,149 Yes we can abandoning books serenely. 220 00:15:55,110 --> 00:15:57,730 I believe there are other glasses there. 221 00:15:57,777 --> 00:16:00,729 Yes... They are scattered around a bit. 222 00:16:03,693 --> 00:16:06,609 I had lunch with Leonard. 223 00:16:06,652 --> 00:16:09,900 - It was painful. - Ah, it's always painful! 224 00:16:09,943 --> 00:16:14,270 This time in particular. We talked about his manuscript. 225 00:16:14,318 --> 00:16:18,609 - What are you talking about? - Ah, always the same thing. 226 00:16:18,652 --> 00:16:23,938 His sentimental stories. Rather repetitive, and also quite squalid. 227 00:16:23,985 --> 00:16:27,814 - Recent stories? - Recent, yes. 228 00:16:27,860 --> 00:16:30,729 - Didn't you like it? - I have many reservations. 229 00:16:30,777 --> 00:16:34,772 - Yet I like what he writes. - It is only the continuation of the previous one. 230 00:16:34,818 --> 00:16:38,066 - The previous one is not bad. - I struggled. 231 00:16:38,110 --> 00:16:42,436 "If you scratch cynicism", there is a kind of human being, below. 232 00:16:43,527 --> 00:16:45,104 I refused it. 233 00:16:52,693 --> 00:16:55,479 I need your advice. 234 00:16:55,527 --> 00:16:57,602 It is unusual. 235 00:16:58,277 --> 00:17:01,726 They offered me the fourth season of "Collusion". 236 00:17:01,777 --> 00:17:05,392 - The fourth? - Yes, it's going well. 237 00:17:05,443 --> 00:17:09,936 - Well, the criticisms are excellent. - The series always have excellent reviews. 238 00:17:11,152 --> 00:17:15,312 - What is your doubt? If you still do the cop - She's not a cop! 239 00:17:15,360 --> 00:17:18,146 She is an expert on crisis situations. 240 00:17:19,443 --> 00:17:21,186 Okay. 241 00:17:21,235 --> 00:17:27,517 No, it's... I get the impression to drag me without progressing. 242 00:17:29,360 --> 00:17:32,193 Then stop. 243 00:17:32,235 --> 00:17:35,187 Yes, but they can't replace me. 244 00:17:35,235 --> 00:17:38,187 I have the impression of being a hostage. 245 00:17:38,235 --> 00:17:40,641 If you have no choice, then continue. 246 00:17:40,693 --> 00:17:43,941 If I accept, I will have it for another six months. 247 00:17:48,943 --> 00:17:51,480 Hey, you, what are you doing here? 248 00:17:51,527 --> 00:17:55,771 - I had a bad dream. - Well? Then? 249 00:17:55,818 --> 00:18:00,228 Where is your bed? Where is your bed? Where is your bed? 250 00:18:00,277 --> 00:18:06,938 - It's over there! - You had a nightmare or did you dream of sleeping with mom and dad? 251 00:18:08,735 --> 00:18:12,433 You're a rascal! A rascal who wants a little tickle! 252 00:18:12,485 --> 00:18:16,148 - A little tickling! - Come on, let's go to bed. 253 00:18:16,193 --> 00:18:20,852 - Daddy reads you a story. Presto! - In bed. - Again! 254 00:18:20,902 --> 00:18:22,858 O-issa! 255 00:18:22,902 --> 00:18:26,564 Here it is. Here we go in bed upside down. Upside down! 256 00:18:26,610 --> 00:18:29,609 Uh-uh! 257 00:19:08,652 --> 00:19:12,481 - What have you got? - Oh, nothing. Anything... 258 00:19:14,652 --> 00:19:16,774 Agree. 259 00:19:16,818 --> 00:19:20,267 Yesterday I saw... Alain at lunch. 260 00:19:21,818 --> 00:19:26,192 - And is Alain all right? - Yes, it seems to me that he is well. 261 00:19:26,777 --> 00:19:31,316 - Well, the other day it seemed a bit down. - Oh yes? Down... Down like? 262 00:19:31,360 --> 00:19:35,485 He just looked down. I mean not up. 263 00:19:35,527 --> 00:19:38,442 He is very well. He seemed fit. 264 00:19:38,485 --> 00:19:41,484 - I'm happy. - In excellent shape. 265 00:19:41,527 --> 00:19:43,565 Mm... fantastic! 266 00:19:43,610 --> 00:19:47,854 Mm. He refused my... my manuscript. 267 00:19:48,610 --> 00:19:51,182 And how is Selena? 268 00:19:52,527 --> 00:19:55,810 Well, I don't know, I haven't seen it. 269 00:19:55,860 --> 00:19:58,942 I'd like to have dinner with them. 270 00:19:58,985 --> 00:20:02,980 I just told you who refused my manuscript. 271 00:20:03,027 --> 00:20:06,476 Okay, I get it. What can I do about it? 272 00:20:10,943 --> 00:20:13,726 - Be supportive. - I'm sympathetic! 273 00:20:13,777 --> 00:20:17,357 You will work on your text again and you will improve it. What should I do, cry? 274 00:20:17,402 --> 00:20:20,317 It didn't even go away for the head that could be wrong... 275 00:20:20,360 --> 00:20:25,018 ...who perhaps missed something in the book? 276 00:20:25,068 --> 00:20:27,984 No, it's true, I didn't think about it. But it's your editor. 277 00:20:28,027 --> 00:20:32,022 - So what? - Then nothing, he is right, otherwise he changes editor. 278 00:20:32,068 --> 00:20:36,442 Yes, but I don't know others. It's been years Alain publishes my books. What should I... 279 00:20:36,485 --> 00:20:39,899 That's what I said. Rework to your text. 280 00:20:41,110 --> 00:20:44,808 I'm working on it for more than a year, in short... 281 00:20:44,860 --> 00:20:48,392 - I'm not very polished anymore. - Do you want me to encourage you? 282 00:20:48,443 --> 00:20:50,649 - Yup. - I knew it. 283 00:20:51,527 --> 00:20:54,396 - Then do it. - No. 284 00:21:02,693 --> 00:21:05,811 Can't you find that Alain has changed? 285 00:21:05,860 --> 00:21:09,606 You too, and me too. We all change over time. 286 00:21:09,652 --> 00:21:13,350 - But he for the worse, no? - Mm... No, I'd say for the better. 287 00:21:14,735 --> 00:21:19,393 - What makes you think so? - It seems more responsible, more solid. 288 00:21:19,443 --> 00:21:23,853 - His judgment has strengthened. - Ah! Well... 289 00:21:23,902 --> 00:21:27,517 - Thank you very much. - Don't take it like that! 290 00:21:27,568 --> 00:21:31,515 The Vertheuil Editions are a success editorial. Literary awards, awards... 291 00:21:31,568 --> 00:21:35,266 - It wasn't so obvious! - It is a publishing house that is over 100 years old. 292 00:21:35,318 --> 00:21:39,183 - Look how it was put before Alain. - Feel the spirit of the times, but don't... 293 00:21:39,235 --> 00:21:43,100 - Eh, yes, it takes talent to succeed. - A commercial talent! 294 00:21:44,235 --> 00:21:48,396 You're unfair, it's always demanding. Many publishers envy his catalog. 295 00:21:49,485 --> 00:21:51,276 Oh, shit! 296 00:21:51,318 --> 00:21:55,443 I have to go, I have a busy day. I'll talk about it when I come back, if you want. 297 00:21:55,485 --> 00:21:59,432 - What is the urgency? - There are local elections in Mayenne. 298 00:21:59,485 --> 00:22:05,104 - David goes to give his support to the candidate. - I saw it on TV. The situation seems difficult. 299 00:22:05,152 --> 00:22:09,893 - Yes, quite a lot. - Are you going with him? - Yes, we meet the strikers at the foundries. 300 00:22:09,943 --> 00:22:14,234 The company is in receivership. Negotiations on working conditions are stopped... 301 00:22:14,277 --> 00:22:18,521 - I know the case. - And you do well? 302 00:22:18,568 --> 00:22:21,852 Well yes... I finish working on the train. 303 00:22:21,902 --> 00:22:25,813 We must be able to resume dialogue or we have no hope. 304 00:22:25,860 --> 00:22:27,852 Hello! 305 00:22:35,485 --> 00:22:39,266 - Did you call Jean-Pierre? - Yes I have left two messages, but did not respond. 306 00:22:39,318 --> 00:22:43,692 - Tell him we will "online" his text tonight. - Agree. - Thank you. 307 00:22:52,818 --> 00:22:55,687 - Good evening, Laure. - Good evening. - You are welcome. 308 00:22:56,902 --> 00:22:59,438 - Please, take a seat. - Thank you. 309 00:22:59,485 --> 00:23:02,235 I'm glad to see you. We still need to know each other. 310 00:23:02,277 --> 00:23:06,188 Mine is a new role. I have always the impression that it is not clear what I do. 311 00:23:06,235 --> 00:23:10,277 By now everyone knows the importance of digital development. 312 00:23:10,318 --> 00:23:14,183 - This is exactly what is scary. - "And yet I advance on tiptoe". 313 00:23:14,235 --> 00:23:18,329 But I find that in the publishing world digital is a bit demonized. 314 00:23:18,330 --> 00:23:21,851 This is no longer the case. Unfortunately or fortunately. 315 00:23:21,902 --> 00:23:26,395 This is why I try to be patient, and above all humble. 316 00:23:26,443 --> 00:23:29,110 It's not what we ask. 317 00:23:29,152 --> 00:23:32,767 There is a lot to learn from a publishing house with this story. 318 00:23:32,818 --> 00:23:36,434 Yes, well... let's try not to be too old-fashioned. 319 00:23:36,485 --> 00:23:41,190 - It was a compliment. - A bit' poisoned. - Something needs changing. 320 00:23:41,235 --> 00:23:43,938 When I talk about opportunities... 321 00:23:43,985 --> 00:23:47,766 ...when I look at the years to come, I feel like the bird of ill omen. 322 00:23:47,818 --> 00:23:51,185 - He's here to move the habits a little. - Till where? 323 00:23:53,110 --> 00:23:57,057 - What are you referring to? - Is there a limit to what I can move? 324 00:23:57,110 --> 00:23:59,315 This is for you to say. 325 00:24:00,402 --> 00:24:04,562 Look, if we want to go to the end, it's all to be rethought. 326 00:24:06,693 --> 00:24:09,728 - Let's get here. You are welcome. - Thank you. 327 00:24:11,485 --> 00:24:15,729 We should give visibility to our initiative. Because we are not communicating it. 328 00:24:16,860 --> 00:24:20,309 - Do you have any suggestions? - I have an opportunity in mind. 329 00:24:20,360 --> 00:24:24,141 - Have you read Robert Clarence's manuscript? - I'm pretty skeptical. 330 00:24:24,193 --> 00:24:28,935 A collection of texts and tweets: how to open the door to anything. 331 00:24:28,985 --> 00:24:31,652 Let's say it is a particular novelty. 332 00:24:31,693 --> 00:24:35,142 - And it's not even a novelty, they have already done it. - It's true. 333 00:24:35,193 --> 00:24:39,402 - Mallarmé has published the verses of circumstance. - I didn't think of Mallarmé. 334 00:24:39,443 --> 00:24:41,850 With mail addresses. 335 00:24:41,902 --> 00:24:45,315 "Mr. Monet, whose sight is not deceived neither in winter nor in summer..." 336 00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:49,355 "..lives while he paints in Giverny, near Vernon, in Eure." 337 00:24:49,985 --> 00:24:51,893 I'm impressed. 338 00:24:51,943 --> 00:24:53,485 Thanks. 339 00:24:53,527 --> 00:24:58,481 The SMS is a modern form of writing. Everyone uses it, speaks to everyone. 340 00:24:58,527 --> 00:25:02,853 - Maybe. - Tweets are haikus moderns, Clarence proves it. 341 00:25:02,902 --> 00:25:08,733 - I respect your opinion. - I thought of publishing a paper version and one for Smartphone. 342 00:25:08,777 --> 00:25:11,895 Why not read Clarence on the phone? 343 00:25:13,193 --> 00:25:16,726 I see that he is reticent, but in terms of image it works. 344 00:25:16,777 --> 00:25:19,729 - We have published e-mails. - Seen? 345 00:25:19,777 --> 00:25:24,103 It's not the same thing, it's letters. Some treat correspondence, others don't. 346 00:25:24,152 --> 00:25:27,483 Whether written by hand or computer, does not change much. 347 00:25:27,527 --> 00:25:32,897 When we published the correspondence by Castelli, e-mails were like paper. 348 00:25:32,943 --> 00:25:36,641 - We remain in the old patterns. - She is strict. 349 00:25:54,402 --> 00:25:57,187 Get out, go! 350 00:26:01,943 --> 00:26:04,231 Man on the ground! 351 00:26:04,277 --> 00:26:06,268 Inside! 352 00:26:08,443 --> 00:26:10,731 This way! 353 00:26:15,485 --> 00:26:17,441 Sons of bitches! 354 00:26:20,985 --> 00:26:25,256 Oh, don't shoot! Don't shoot, we give up! 355 00:26:26,068 --> 00:26:28,190 Stop! 356 00:26:28,235 --> 00:26:31,767 - Well done. - It went well. - I wasn't really there. - But no! 357 00:26:31,818 --> 00:26:34,734 I lost my concentration. 358 00:26:34,777 --> 00:26:38,902 - I was hit by a cartridge. It is the third time they take me. - Where did it hit you? 359 00:26:41,443 --> 00:26:44,727 - How's it going? - Always the same. 360 00:26:44,777 --> 00:26:47,231 It is very physical. Physical. 361 00:26:47,277 --> 00:26:53,108 - It's hard? - A little, but it's good work on energy. All right. 362 00:26:53,152 --> 00:26:56,316 Jerôme is better with bodies that with ideas. 363 00:26:56,360 --> 00:27:01,351 Honestly, I'm a little tired of all these stories of revenge. 364 00:27:01,402 --> 00:27:07,268 - It's a pretext. - For me it is not interesting revenge, especially when it legitimizes violence. 365 00:27:08,360 --> 00:27:14,061 - Don't you like what you do? - Yes. I am happy, I do my best, but... 366 00:27:14,110 --> 00:27:16,896 - I don't find it very much. - Yup. 367 00:27:17,735 --> 00:27:21,066 - How are you with Alain? - Well. 368 00:27:21,110 --> 00:27:25,484 - Problems? - I think Alain sees himself with another. 369 00:27:25,527 --> 00:27:28,561 - Do you think so or do you know? - I feel it. 370 00:27:28,610 --> 00:27:32,475 - And you don't want to talk to him? - Honestly I do not know. 371 00:27:34,777 --> 00:27:40,147 - I don't understand you, it's always better to talk about it. - Not it's always better. If it were true, what could I do with it? 372 00:27:40,193 --> 00:27:42,185 He will lie. 373 00:27:42,235 --> 00:27:47,578 And what do I want? I want to break up? Is this really what I want? 374 00:27:48,652 --> 00:27:52,314 - Do you prefer hypocrisy? - What's that got to do with it? We have been married for 20 years. 375 00:27:52,360 --> 00:27:56,023 You can't keep it intact desire all this time. 376 00:27:56,068 --> 00:27:59,850 - Would you find it legitimate if it betrayed you? - Betrays me! 377 00:27:59,902 --> 00:28:04,311 - But you said you're not sure. - No, I'd put my hand on the fire. 378 00:28:04,360 --> 00:28:09,860 - And you're ready to accept it. - I don't think you don't love me, maybe you love me more. 379 00:28:09,902 --> 00:28:12,771 - Why? - Because he feels guilty. 380 00:28:12,818 --> 00:28:17,642 He knows he could lose me. Fear brings him closer to me. 381 00:28:17,693 --> 00:28:23,027 - I do not recognize you. - In a couple there is something beyond desire. 382 00:28:23,527 --> 00:28:27,189 - Do you already have a title or some anticipation? - No, no. - OK. 383 00:28:27,235 --> 00:28:29,725 Will Vertheuil always publish it? 384 00:28:29,777 --> 00:28:33,108 - I'm still not sure to give it to them. - Ah OK. 385 00:28:33,152 --> 00:28:37,857 No, because we need to renew ourselves. I think it's good to find... 386 00:28:37,902 --> 00:28:42,975 Excuse me, we need to start. Should be everyone arrived. If he comes with me to the table... 387 00:28:44,777 --> 00:28:46,982 Good evening! 388 00:28:48,777 --> 00:28:54,526 Thank you all for coming, for being faithful to our Friday night meetings. 389 00:28:54,568 --> 00:28:58,149 You are a little less numerous than usual. 390 00:28:58,193 --> 00:29:01,146 But it's cold and there are problems to metro line 2. 391 00:29:01,985 --> 00:29:05,150 So, I wouldn't want to wait still our guest. 392 00:29:06,110 --> 00:29:10,768 - Welcome Leonard Spiegel. - Good evening. - It's a pleasure to have you here. 393 00:29:10,818 --> 00:29:14,315 To talk about a demanding work, and still little known. 394 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,063 So, I ask you the first question. 395 00:29:17,110 --> 00:29:22,064 - "Farewells in a low voice" is a novel avowedly autobiographical. - Yes but... 396 00:29:22,110 --> 00:29:25,808 Yes and no. All the novels they are a bit autobiographical. 397 00:29:26,068 --> 00:29:31,141 - We can recognize... - Yes... Solange. - In the character of Véronique Pastoureau. 398 00:29:31,193 --> 00:29:33,268 For those who know it, it's pretty clear. 399 00:29:33,318 --> 00:29:38,984 But for those who don't know it, who is the real Solange? 400 00:29:39,027 --> 00:29:43,401 I mean, what does it matter if I was inspired by her or another? 401 00:29:43,443 --> 00:29:50,567 In my opinion, the reader will replace you his memories, his imagination. 402 00:29:50,610 --> 00:29:56,229 The result will be a character imaginary, as if invented. 403 00:29:56,610 --> 00:29:59,147 At least I think. 404 00:29:59,193 --> 00:30:01,648 Are there any questions? 405 00:30:02,235 --> 00:30:06,645 - Please, sir. - What do you think of the controversy that rages on his book? 406 00:30:06,693 --> 00:30:10,984 - What controversy? - On the Internet. 407 00:30:11,027 --> 00:30:15,768 - As on Intern 408 00:30:15,818 --> 00:30:20,311 Yes, maybe she missed it, but it is a very heated debate. 409 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,651 - I didn't follow him at all. - Maybe it's better for her. 410 00:30:24,693 --> 00:30:27,858 One wonders if the writers can be inspired by real people. 411 00:30:27,902 --> 00:30:33,105 - Of course, we always do it, from that world is world. - It's not a good reason. 412 00:30:33,152 --> 00:30:36,518 His ex-wife wrote to feel violated. And the network has arisen. 413 00:30:36,568 --> 00:30:40,065 There is an old question still open between us. 414 00:30:40,110 --> 00:30:44,567 She haunts me. It is making a settlement of accounts, almost. 415 00:30:44,610 --> 00:30:48,735 - Even his book seems a settlement of accounts. - No. 416 00:30:48,777 --> 00:30:51,527 It's his point of view. It is debatable. 417 00:30:52,985 --> 00:30:58,900 It can be considered, in effect, that each individual is the owner of his own image. 418 00:30:58,943 --> 00:31:03,317 - It's up to him to use it as he wants. - So it's about money, right? 419 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:07,935 - My life is worth something. If you use it, at least pay me. - Now I understand. 420 00:31:07,985 --> 00:31:11,814 What can I do about it? My life it's my relationship with others. 421 00:31:11,860 --> 00:31:14,148 Subjective, if you want, but in short... 422 00:31:14,818 --> 00:31:19,441 - I have no right to use it by telling what I know - Good question. 423 00:31:19,485 --> 00:31:24,274 - The answer is not obvious. - And if anyone didn't he agree, like his ex-wife? 424 00:31:24,318 --> 00:31:29,391 - Or would you like to use your own story? - It would be absolutely free to do so! 425 00:31:29,443 --> 00:31:33,308 But no. Since you used it, he is no longer a virgin. 426 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,817 - There is an image market, they have a market value. - Non-commercial. 427 00:31:37,860 --> 00:31:42,851 Yup! Proof? He made a book out of it. It is for sale and has a certain price. 428 00:31:42,902 --> 00:31:46,943 - The life of others has a value. - Exactly. - Solange has the right to request an account. 429 00:31:55,860 --> 00:32:02,142 - Good morning. - Miss d'Angerville... - Thank you. - Room 21. 430 00:32:02,193 --> 00:32:05,477 - Mr. Danielson, I guess. - Yup. 431 00:32:05,527 --> 00:32:08,230 - Room 10. Last floor. - Thank you. 432 00:32:08,277 --> 00:32:12,651 - Good morning. - Hello. - Hello, I'm Blaise. - Pleasure. 433 00:32:12,902 --> 00:32:16,979 - Thank you so much for being here. - Not at all, thanks to you. 434 00:32:17,027 --> 00:32:20,808 I present you Laure, takes care of all digital editions. 435 00:32:20,860 --> 00:32:23,432 - We exchanged messages. - Ah. By computer, yes. 436 00:32:28,068 --> 00:32:31,186 We can sit here. 437 00:32:31,235 --> 00:32:34,815 - You are welcome. - Thank you. - I'll take that. 438 00:32:35,568 --> 00:32:38,935 - Do you need a chair? - No, please. - Thank you. 439 00:32:38,985 --> 00:32:44,604 - Do you drink anything? - For me, a beer. - Yes for me too. - OK it's good. 440 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,110 Joe, two beers. Indeed, three. 441 00:32:48,152 --> 00:32:50,439 - I'm sorry. - Imagine. 442 00:32:51,568 --> 00:32:53,228 For me the real topic of tomorrow... 443 00:32:53,277 --> 00:32:57,272 ...is the way the technology makes access to culture democratic. 444 00:32:57,318 --> 00:32:59,985 I don't see what democracy has to do with it. 445 00:33:00,027 --> 00:33:04,068 - Everything is always available for everyone. - Not everything, not for everyone. 446 00:33:04,110 --> 00:33:09,017 Let's say digital technology it's like a utopia. 447 00:33:09,068 --> 00:33:13,691 He's right. All digitalized books in the world from Google available online. It's a revolution. 448 00:33:14,152 --> 00:33:18,727 There are more than 20 million works! And the largest library in the world and is virtual. 449 00:33:18,943 --> 00:33:22,641 That is, Google has taken it hostage all our literary memory... 450 00:33:22,777 --> 00:33:26,108 ...to resell the data of users to advertisers. 451 00:33:26,152 --> 00:33:28,772 - Nothing is done for philanthropy. - Questionable. 452 00:33:29,235 --> 00:33:31,606 The idea that trade, companies or advertising... 453 00:33:31,652 --> 00:33:35,398 ...they can legitimately appropriate themselves of the circulation of knowledge... 454 00:33:35,443 --> 00:33:38,015 ...it is modern, but does not convince me at all. 455 00:33:38,068 --> 00:33:40,107 Publishing is also trade. 456 00:33:40,152 --> 00:33:44,526 It will also be regrettable, but I don't see how we can go back. 457 00:33:44,568 --> 00:33:48,480 Yes, it's today's world. He doesn't come asked for nothing and then it is too late. 458 00:33:49,027 --> 00:33:52,109 It is a fact that the consultation in the library it will no longer make sense. 459 00:33:52,152 --> 00:33:57,106 Libraries will keep books, but the contents will be immaterial. 460 00:34:00,110 --> 00:34:02,398 - Thank you. - Thank you. 461 00:34:02,443 --> 00:34:06,141 - Is it good or bad, in your opinion? - A good, obviously. - Health. - Because it would be bad. 462 00:34:08,110 --> 00:34:13,480 Ask a writer who seeks a description or want to check a memory. 463 00:34:13,527 --> 00:34:18,481 To a scientist who compares his research with the others in his field. 464 00:34:19,443 --> 00:34:22,775 You have a municipal library. I saw the sign. 465 00:34:22,818 --> 00:34:26,860 It's a media library. Contains books but also CDs, DVDs. 466 00:34:26,902 --> 00:34:31,477 - And it works? - They go there especially children, because they love to read. 467 00:34:31,527 --> 00:34:34,940 The homeless. It's hot, they can use the Internet... 468 00:34:35,277 --> 00:34:38,146 And then the elderly. There is a granoteca. 469 00:34:39,735 --> 00:34:42,355 And what is a granoteca? 470 00:34:42,402 --> 00:34:46,646 There are wooden containers in which people exchange seeds. 471 00:34:48,318 --> 00:34:51,689 These are structures which are destined to disappear. 472 00:34:51,737 --> 00:34:54,250 We will need to reconvert them. It is inevitable. 473 00:35:32,818 --> 00:35:35,771 - I get up, I have to go. - Stay. 474 00:35:35,818 --> 00:35:38,273 Blaise is waiting for us at breakfast. 475 00:35:56,652 --> 00:36:01,808 - I thought about it, I don't agree with you. - What about? 476 00:36:01,860 --> 00:36:04,480 - Have you seen Bergman's movie "Lights in winter"? - I didn't see anything about Bergman. Do you recommend it? 477 00:36:08,318 --> 00:36:14,434 There is a priest who has lost his faith, but continues to celebrate mass in an empty church. 478 00:36:14,485 --> 00:36:20,601 - Are you the priest? - No, and for now the church is not completely empty. 479 00:36:20,652 --> 00:36:26,104 - I do not understand. - It's a question of faith. We do not agree on this. 480 00:36:26,152 --> 00:36:28,641 - I understand even less. - I'm not talking about religion. 481 00:36:28,693 --> 00:36:32,771 We dedicate our lives to an idea, in this case to the books, but the idea goes beyond it. 482 00:36:32,818 --> 00:36:37,145 Not necessarily. In reverse, we question it and evolve. 483 00:36:37,193 --> 00:36:40,441 We even try to overcome it. 484 00:36:40,485 --> 00:36:43,318 - Why are you laughing? - Because you always report everything digitally. 485 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,189 The point is digital, that makes us lose any kind of reference. 486 00:36:47,610 --> 00:36:49,713 It makes us reinvent, it's a challenge. 487 00:36:49,714 --> 00:36:54,851 Maybe yes, but I'm not talking about what is transformed, but of what remains the same. 488 00:36:54,902 --> 00:36:58,943 We are also the custodians of an idea that runs through time. 489 00:36:58,985 --> 00:37:02,683 Even when we doubt, when the church is empty. 490 00:37:02,735 --> 00:37:07,358 - I was sure, you are the priest. - No, it's just an example. 491 00:37:07,402 --> 00:37:11,349 Sometimes you have to believe in an idea even against all evidence. 492 00:37:11,402 --> 00:37:14,022 And at the conference is this what you will tell? 493 00:37:14,068 --> 00:37:17,186 No, I will talk about what they are interested in. 494 00:37:17,735 --> 00:37:20,935 How the digital edition took over an important dimension in our work. 495 00:37:22,235 --> 00:37:26,893 - And soon the only one. - Yes, I understand, I leave you to your certainties. 496 00:37:31,027 --> 00:37:32,817 Thank you. Alain Danielson. 497 00:37:35,110 --> 00:37:36,355 Thank you. 498 00:37:36,402 --> 00:37:40,231 You question many preconceptions of the publishing world. 499 00:37:40,277 --> 00:37:43,975 Let's talk about the future, so it is only speculation. 500 00:37:44,027 --> 00:37:47,191 But they are matters that cannot be avoided. 501 00:37:47,235 --> 00:37:51,858 And I suppose they'll raise many questions in the present audience. 502 00:37:51,902 --> 00:37:54,226 Yes, please. 503 00:37:56,402 --> 00:38:00,895 Maybe I'll be trivial. Don't you think it's just about money? 504 00:38:00,943 --> 00:38:04,310 - The books are too expensive. - It's a done, the Kindle versions cost half. 505 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,686 Yes. Especially for those has a low pension, makes a difference. 506 00:38:08,735 --> 00:38:14,235 So, it is true that the realization of digital books does not cost anything, but... 507 00:38:14,277 --> 00:38:16,601 Is this really the problem? 508 00:38:16,652 --> 00:38:18,560 It's definitely part of the problem. 509 00:38:18,610 --> 00:38:22,308 You see, in our society they come respected money and power. 510 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,027 More books will cost and more will be respected. 511 00:38:25,610 --> 00:38:27,981 He will admit that it is a bit paradoxical. 512 00:38:28,027 --> 00:38:31,191 It cannot be either for democratization of books than for dissuasive prices. 513 00:38:31,568 --> 00:38:35,398 And who says I am for democratization? 514 00:38:35,443 --> 00:38:39,936 No, I'm kidding. But I wouldn't mind that the books be valued more. 515 00:38:43,068 --> 00:38:45,818 What do you think of the Espresso Book Machine? 516 00:38:45,860 --> 00:38:48,101 Sorry. I translate for non-specialists. 517 00:38:48,152 --> 00:38:51,684 The Espresso Book Machine allows you to print books on request. 518 00:38:51,735 --> 00:38:54,106 A car you would find in a bookstore. 519 00:38:54,152 --> 00:38:57,767 That is, select a book on a monitor, press a button... 520 00:38:57,818 --> 00:39:00,438 ...and the book is printed in five minutes. 521 00:39:00,485 --> 00:39:04,693 - Identical to a book that came out of the typography. - Not exactly identical. 522 00:39:04,860 --> 00:39:07,231 Is it a nostalgic of cardboard covers? 523 00:39:07,277 --> 00:39:12,729 In the United States, the original edition hardcover, carefully packaged, sells well. 524 00:39:12,777 --> 00:39:16,558 When it is exhausted, the pocket edition comes out. 525 00:39:25,110 --> 00:39:27,185 Wait. 526 00:39:42,527 --> 00:39:45,734 - Hey... - Mm? 527 00:39:45,735 --> 00:39:48,434 I have to go! 528 00:39:52,027 --> 00:39:55,856 - Ssh... - Aspe... 529 00:39:56,318 --> 00:40:01,190 Stop that! Come on, leave me... 530 00:40:05,777 --> 00:40:10,234 - Leave me. I will be late. - Come on... 531 00:40:10,277 --> 00:40:13,975 - No, I'll be late. - Let's sleep... 532 00:40:22,402 --> 00:40:25,815 - Stop that. - Let's sleep! 533 00:40:49,443 --> 00:40:51,482 Leonard? 534 00:41:18,652 --> 00:41:21,567 Is it okay there? There. 535 00:41:26,568 --> 00:41:28,359 Thank you. 536 00:41:35,443 --> 00:41:38,976 - I read your book. - You took it easy. 537 00:41:40,777 --> 00:41:42,852 You're joking, eh? 538 00:41:42,985 --> 00:41:48,770 - Do you really think it's like Xenia? Wait, Xenia is a fictional character. 539 00:41:49,193 --> 00:41:52,329 An invented character quite intuitive. 540 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,193 For those who know me, it is not difficult to identify myself. 541 00:41:55,235 --> 00:41:58,234 No, but listen... Alain didn't really think about it, so... 542 00:41:59,027 --> 00:42:01,777 Meaning? What did you tell him? 543 00:42:02,193 --> 00:42:05,228 I told him, discreetly... 544 00:42:05,277 --> 00:42:09,900 ...for the character I was inspired by Stephanie Volkowski. 545 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,316 - Stephanie?! - Yes, to confuse the waters! 546 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:17,599 - Do you find me like Stephanie?! - No, it's the first name that came to mind. 547 00:42:17,652 --> 00:42:22,890 - You find that vulgar talk show funny on Channel 8? - For nothing. - Me neither. 548 00:42:22,943 --> 00:42:26,985 - Well, since Alain knows I had one story with her... - which does you no credit! 549 00:42:27,027 --> 00:42:33,060 - Yes, but it's more credible than if I had said Taylor Swift. - It would have been more flattering. 550 00:42:33,110 --> 00:42:37,401 Besides, you've got yourself also some too much freedom on the facts. 551 00:42:37,443 --> 00:42:39,980 - Really? - Really. - What, for example? 552 00:42:42,027 --> 00:42:47,313 - The scene where he sucks it in the cinema. - Mm. - true? 553 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,312 - Didn't happen? - Well, not exactly. 554 00:42:51,277 --> 00:42:55,437 If you remember, it was during "Star Wars: the awakening of strength." 555 00:42:55,485 --> 00:42:59,562 - I just changed the title of the movie! - Certainly a Haneke film is more chic! 556 00:42:59,610 --> 00:43:03,391 - "The white ribbon" then... - Come on, it's a transposition. - Sure! 557 00:43:03,443 --> 00:43:07,521 - Like the weekend in Seville during Holy Week... - Yes. 558 00:43:07,568 --> 00:43:10,140 - That's not true. - Yes... No, no, it was... 559 00:43:10,193 --> 00:43:16,357 - It was the book fair... in Brive. - Yes, of course, so it's more glamorous, of course. 560 00:43:16,402 --> 00:43:20,231 - It's more romantic. - I thought you hated romance. 561 00:43:20,277 --> 00:43:26,476 No, I wouldn't say. In fact, I think I'm coming back. Slowly, calmly, I'm coming back. 562 00:43:26,527 --> 00:43:30,024 Will you accompany me to smoke a cigarette? 563 00:43:37,485 --> 00:43:40,484 - Did you go with another to Seville? - No, I never set foot there. 564 00:43:40,527 --> 00:43:46,477 - I used Wikipedia, Google. Seems true, eh? - Yup. 565 00:43:46,527 --> 00:43:49,775 I like the scene where they lose the procession of penitents... 566 00:43:49,818 --> 00:43:52,142 ...and spend the day at the Alcazar gardens. 567 00:43:52,193 --> 00:43:55,393 It seems that those gardens are beautiful. 568 00:43:57,735 --> 00:44:02,310 - We could go to Seville. - Sure, whenever you want. 569 00:44:15,443 --> 00:44:20,315 - Do you say that Alain didn't read between the lines? - Of course not. No. 570 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:25,730 - He doesn't want to publish it, though. - Yes, it's a bit disheartening. 571 00:44:25,777 --> 00:44:28,397 I liked it. It's one of your best books. 572 00:44:29,818 --> 00:44:33,399 - And did you tell her? - Yes, yes. 573 00:44:33,902 --> 00:44:40,184 - Has it had any effect? - No, nobody. He barely reacted. 574 00:44:42,277 --> 00:44:44,943 Will it be a way to get revenge? 575 00:44:44,985 --> 00:44:49,727 - Do you think I know anything? - No, I don't know... It's just... 576 00:44:49,777 --> 00:44:52,859 Consciously or unconsciously could suspect. 577 00:44:52,902 --> 00:44:59,610 - You mean that for unconscious reasons... - But very intense! - .. does not publish the book? - Yup. 578 00:45:03,943 --> 00:45:09,147 Thank you. Good evening. See you later. 579 00:45:09,193 --> 00:45:13,567 - Valérie, how are you? - Hello! Sorry for the delay. - We didn't expect you anymore. 580 00:45:13,610 --> 00:45:18,731 - I come directly from Laval. - Do not worry. Give me your stuff. - OK. 581 00:45:18,777 --> 00:45:24,396 - Hi everyone. How are you? - Hello sweetheart my. - Sorry for the delay. Arrival from Laval. 582 00:45:24,443 --> 00:45:27,277 - Do you know I called you 10 times? - Yes, I had a dead battery. 583 00:45:27,318 --> 00:45:30,981 - On both phones? - Yup! - You could ask to load them in a bar. 584 00:45:31,027 --> 00:45:33,693 - I'll put one in office there. - Thank you. - And in the kitchen there's an outlet. - Thank you. - Imagine. 585 00:45:35,443 --> 00:45:39,853 - Never heard of Laval. - Me neither. - Listen, Valérie, where is Laval? 586 00:45:39,902 --> 00:45:45,651 - It's in the Mayenne, for your information. - Excuse the ignorance, but where is the Mayenne? 587 00:45:45,693 --> 00:45:48,397 No, but is it a joke? You're kidding me! 588 00:45:48,652 --> 00:45:54,068 - No, it's South, East, West? Seriously... - I know, it's in the Massif Central. 589 00:45:54,110 --> 00:45:59,610 That's Pierre Laval, Prime Minister of Vichy. He comes from the Massif Central. 590 00:45:59,652 --> 00:46:06,527 - But it's serious! Laval! - Well, what is it? -The countries of the Loire. With the TGV you arrive in 90 minutes. 591 00:46:06,568 --> 00:46:11,641 - Wait... Do you know what the TGV is? - Ah, no, I never took a TGV. Never! 592 00:46:11,693 --> 00:46:14,183 - Valérie, hold on, take back. - Yes, I really need it. - Drink up. 593 00:46:15,527 --> 00:46:19,568 - To your. - To yours! - Health. - And above all to your book "La palude". 594 00:46:19,610 --> 00:46:23,059 I found it very interesting, a mixture of fiction and reality. 595 00:46:23,443 --> 00:46:26,015 - Really? - Yes thanks. 596 00:46:26,068 --> 00:46:28,523 Then? Did it go well today? 597 00:46:28,568 --> 00:46:31,272 Thanks for asking but it was a disaster. 598 00:46:31,318 --> 00:46:35,360 The owner of the foundry is a primitive and so there was no dialogue. 599 00:46:35,402 --> 00:46:39,443 - I believe this will weigh on the elections. - But it will be good for David's image. 600 00:46:39,485 --> 00:46:44,392 - What do you mean? - He takes the side of the strikers, gives it a less neutral image. 601 00:46:44,443 --> 00:46:48,983 It is not an image, it is a reality. He's very busy, that's why he's a politician. 602 00:46:49,027 --> 00:46:51,896 - Makes politics to be elected. - Quite right! 603 00:46:51,943 --> 00:46:56,187 - Obviously, but stop nodding! - I only have said "right". - Of course he wants to be elected. 604 00:46:56,235 --> 00:46:59,933 But who would say, "No, no, I want to lose"? It is obvious that he makes politics to be elected. 605 00:46:59,985 --> 00:47:03,980 - To be elected, you must manage yours image, and he is very good. - It's true. 606 00:47:04,027 --> 00:47:07,061 - Acts according to his convictions. - And let him know. 607 00:47:07,110 --> 00:47:12,811 He acts according to his convictions and communicates it. A photo with the strikers can come in handy. 608 00:47:12,860 --> 00:47:16,143 But anyway, how cynical you are! 609 00:47:16,193 --> 00:47:20,852 - No? - It's not a question of cynicism, I also think of it as Carsten. 610 00:47:20,902 --> 00:47:25,027 - Or you are cynical too. - It is possible. - But what is the problem? 611 00:47:25,068 --> 00:47:29,774 - Come, it's ready! - You can't do politics as it used to be. We have entered a new era. 612 00:47:29,818 --> 00:47:33,896 - I say to you! It's ready. - Thing should it be done then? - You change system. 613 00:47:33,943 --> 00:47:37,026 The system is the same: reality. It is always like this. 614 00:47:37,068 --> 00:47:42,189 - Taxes, work, school, security... - It's more complex. - It's really simple. 615 00:47:42,235 --> 00:47:47,901 Think of the actual temperature and that perceived. Real and perceived are different things. 616 00:47:47,943 --> 00:47:52,566 - We must work on the perceived as well as on the real. - Okay, but what is the perception determined by? 617 00:47:52,610 --> 00:47:55,858 From information. From a widespread climate. 618 00:47:55,902 --> 00:48:00,726 - Here it is. Information no longer exists. - Yes that exists, don't say that. 619 00:48:00,777 --> 00:48:03,692 There is only one information supermarket... 620 00:48:03,735 --> 00:48:07,232 ...where everyone does their shopping with your cart. 621 00:48:08,027 --> 00:48:10,477 Internet is not just this. We can choose where to shop. 622 00:48:10,527 --> 00:48:14,107 Everyone reads what he wants to read, which comforts his opinions. 623 00:48:14,152 --> 00:48:18,857 Sources can be demanding with quality. I have always made a choice, at least I believe. 624 00:48:18,902 --> 00:48:22,351 - Exactly, you believe. - You can make a selection. 625 00:48:22,402 --> 00:48:25,982 What makes you laugh? 626 00:48:26,027 --> 00:48:31,728 Nothing, a joke. A friend sent me the manifesto of "Star Wars: the awakening of strength". 627 00:48:31,777 --> 00:48:36,980 - Funny, tell us too. - It is not so interesting, and then it's hard to explain. 628 00:48:37,027 --> 00:48:41,152 - Can you break off your cell phone for one evening, please? - Yes, yes, now I turn it off. 629 00:48:41,193 --> 00:48:43,979 It is always the same, only that they have different titles. 630 00:48:44,027 --> 00:48:47,974 - Can I get you one? - Sure. They are slim, though. - They are fine, thanks. 631 00:48:48,027 --> 00:48:51,227 - I think I'll taste something now. - I'll take your jacket. - Yes, go ahead. 632 00:48:51,277 --> 00:48:54,690 - Such as? - Very good. - Where did you get fork? - There. - Ah, thanks. - How cold. 633 00:48:54,735 --> 00:48:58,516 I agree with Valérie. Politics is played first of all on the field. 634 00:48:58,568 --> 00:49:02,895 - Not only. - Yes, of course, but you have to start from there. 635 00:49:02,943 --> 00:49:08,147 - On the condition of having concrete results in the field of which you speak. - But when? Immediately? 636 00:49:08,193 --> 00:49:12,603 - Yes, immediately. - Can not be done, politics needs time. 637 00:49:12,652 --> 00:49:18,436 - Not against David, it's very reputable to me. - Do you find it reputable? - I really appreciate David. 638 00:49:18,485 --> 00:49:22,895 To the words of politicians rarely follow the facts, don't you find? 639 00:49:22,943 --> 00:49:27,483 - It's true, that's why you don't trust them more than them. - Who doesn't trust anymore? 640 00:49:27,527 --> 00:49:31,984 - You don't trust anymore? - No, people. - People? And who are the people? 641 00:49:32,027 --> 00:49:35,938 - People are people. - And you? What do you think? 642 00:49:35,985 --> 00:49:41,058 - But nothing, I observe. - Don't think anything. It's too easy like this. 643 00:49:41,110 --> 00:49:43,185 I'm cold. 644 00:49:46,777 --> 00:49:51,684 - What's this? Couscous? - Yes it is good. - Thanks, that's enough. - Public opinion is won day by day. 645 00:49:51,735 --> 00:49:56,275 The battlefield is that communication that you despise, in real time. 646 00:49:56,318 --> 00:50:00,811 - So it's all allowed? Is it so? - It is what is called post-truth. 647 00:50:00,860 --> 00:50:05,898 - I have been thinking for a long time that we are in post-truth. - What does post-truth mean? 648 00:50:05,943 --> 00:50:12,142 It means allowing people to live in a fictitious universe determined by their prejudices. 649 00:50:12,193 --> 00:50:14,683 But do you think people are so naive? 650 00:50:14,735 --> 00:50:18,860 I think we all need to certainties, even more so in an uncertain world. 651 00:50:18,902 --> 00:50:22,268 You think they don't see intentions hidden behind messages? 652 00:50:22,318 --> 00:50:26,941 I do, I think they analyze all in a tremendously lucid manner. 653 00:50:26,985 --> 00:50:29,652 - You are optimistic. - Oh, I'm not optimistic at all. 654 00:50:29,693 --> 00:50:33,558 Indeed, no, I think this lucidity you don't need anything! 655 00:50:35,027 --> 00:50:38,773 - Finally... They exhausted me. - Why? 656 00:50:38,818 --> 00:50:42,267 - It was a pleasant evening. - A pleasant evening?! 657 00:50:42,318 --> 00:50:47,557 Everything but pleasant! They do not have did nothing but spit on politics and David. 658 00:50:47,610 --> 00:50:50,562 - Do you want water? - Ah, yes, thank you. 659 00:50:50,610 --> 00:50:53,609 Not be susceptible, there was no malice. 660 00:50:53,652 --> 00:50:56,651 - No one was insidious and sneaky. - Yes, Carsten. 661 00:50:56,693 --> 00:50:59,100 - The others too. - The others less. 662 00:50:59,152 --> 00:51:01,724 - Sara... - I like Carsten. 663 00:51:01,777 --> 00:51:07,727 Although he is a little bear, I find that "La palude" is an interesting book. 664 00:51:07,777 --> 00:51:11,818 - It's nice. - Alain detests him, you told me you didn't want to publish it. 665 00:51:11,860 --> 00:51:17,147 - But in fact it is very successful. - So? Do you feel justified in saying everything and more? 666 00:51:17,193 --> 00:51:21,402 It is not really so. He has some experience of the political world, you can't deny it. 667 00:51:21,443 --> 00:51:26,232 - He was a political journalist on the radio, not it has nothing to do with it. - Of course? He knows the industry. 668 00:51:26,277 --> 00:51:28,897 - But what does the sector have to do with it! - But why now... 669 00:51:28,943 --> 00:51:32,061 The industry does not know it at all, at most he knows people who know him. 670 00:51:32,110 --> 00:51:36,650 - U Got It Bad. Very very bad. - Yes, I have it taken badly. Am I not right to take it well? 671 00:51:36,693 --> 00:51:42,525 - I do a difficult job, I work hard and I have to be insulted... - No one has insulted you. 672 00:51:42,568 --> 00:51:47,523 Did you hear the tone? The tone with which did they talk to me? Disdain for politics? 673 00:51:47,568 --> 00:51:52,143 - People today express themselves this way, don't pretend to be amazed. - So? This is not a good reason. 674 00:51:52,193 --> 00:51:56,188 - Wait, stay here. - Stop it, please. - No, we were... - Leave me, come on! 675 00:51:56,235 --> 00:51:58,559 Leave me alone! 676 00:52:01,735 --> 00:52:07,566 - He didn't speak against you, he was more against David. - I know, it's even worse. 677 00:52:07,610 --> 00:52:10,064 - You know David well. - Of course, I know him. 678 00:52:10,110 --> 00:52:17,731 - And what do you think? - I find it great worker, very honest, very... busy. 679 00:52:17,777 --> 00:52:23,561 - We agree. - Yes, but it's also true that I don't want to vote for him. 680 00:52:25,068 --> 00:52:28,517 - Why, are you dying to vote? - Well, no. 681 00:52:28,568 --> 00:52:32,942 - Well, so what? - I appreciate it as a person. 682 00:52:32,985 --> 00:52:37,939 But in addition to the sympathy that inspires me, it doesn't really embody my political ideas. 683 00:52:37,985 --> 00:52:40,688 Sorry, but who embodies your political ideas? 684 00:52:40,735 --> 00:52:44,730 I don't know, like... Genghis Khan! He did. 685 00:52:44,777 --> 00:52:47,776 - Oh really? - And Attila. He yes, see? 686 00:52:47,818 --> 00:52:50,901 - Attila?! - Here, yes. - Beautiful. 687 00:52:50,943 --> 00:52:54,440 - Jack the Ripper! - Oh yes, Jack the Ripper, it's even better! 688 00:52:54,485 --> 00:52:57,899 - Ah, he did. - Yes. He did. 689 00:53:00,110 --> 00:53:05,231 Well, come on, I've never been a supporter of the established order. 690 00:53:05,277 --> 00:53:08,643 No, you prefer disorder. 691 00:53:08,693 --> 00:53:12,274 I don't have a good relationship with authority. 692 00:53:13,985 --> 00:53:16,901 And what is the opposite of authority? 693 00:53:17,610 --> 00:53:20,777 - Chaos. - Ah, chaos is better. 694 00:53:20,818 --> 00:53:25,856 - Do you prefer it? - Theoretically, yes, because it's more productive. 695 00:53:27,027 --> 00:53:30,607 "Theoretically ..." "Theoretically, yes, it is more productive." 696 00:53:30,652 --> 00:53:35,357 Well, basically, maybe I'm not so sure it works, in fact. 697 00:53:35,402 --> 00:53:38,068 You betray me, Leonard? 698 00:53:39,402 --> 00:53:43,397 - Why... Why do you ask? - I don't know, it occurred to me first. 699 00:53:43,443 --> 00:53:45,767 So I don't want to keep it for myself. 700 00:53:48,818 --> 00:53:51,024 Such as? When? 701 00:53:51,068 --> 00:53:54,517 First, at dinner, when you read that message. 702 00:53:55,193 --> 00:53:58,939 - But it was stupid. - I don't know, the way you smiled... 703 00:53:58,985 --> 00:54:02,316 - What way? - And then you immediately deleted the message. 704 00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:06,817 - No, I do that automatically. - "Don't pack yourself", please. 705 00:54:06,860 --> 00:54:10,060 - You're the one who insinuated... - You love Me? 706 00:54:13,860 --> 00:54:16,065 Yup. 707 00:54:18,152 --> 00:54:20,523 Because I love you. 708 00:54:21,443 --> 00:54:23,767 Really. 709 00:54:29,777 --> 00:54:32,895 Also... if we're not never really agree? 710 00:54:32,943 --> 00:54:36,310 Especially because we don't agree on anything. 711 00:54:42,568 --> 00:54:46,433 (LEONARD IMITATES THE VERSE OF A CAT THAT MAKES THE CASTINGS 712 00:54:59,110 --> 00:55:01,682 Oh, how nice to see you! 713 00:55:01,735 --> 00:55:05,267 Did you find it easily? With the works, the indications are very bad. 714 00:55:05,318 --> 00:55:09,479 - I followed the navigator. - How are you? - You make yourself want. 715 00:55:09,527 --> 00:55:14,481 - Here, we've got them coming. - Not you had to. Thank you! - I don't guarantee quality. 716 00:55:14,527 --> 00:55:18,107 - The shop I know was closed. - It's the thought that counts. 717 00:55:19,027 --> 00:55:22,393 - Good morning. - Pleasure. - Hello. - Nice to meet you. 718 00:55:22,443 --> 00:55:26,652 - How are you? - Fine thanks. - Do you know each other? - Good morning. - Guy Fonville. Alain Danielson. 719 00:55:26,693 --> 00:55:29,527 - Political Science, right? - Yes, we have two years of difference. 720 00:55:29,568 --> 00:55:33,266 - Good morning. - Pleasure. - And Selena needs no introduction. 721 00:55:33,318 --> 00:55:36,767 I saw her in the second season of "Collision". Very good. 722 00:55:36,818 --> 00:55:40,351 - What is "Collision"? - Don't you know her? - No. - You would like it, it's a genius series. 723 00:55:40,402 --> 00:55:45,439 - A TV series? - It is actually "Collusion", not "Collision". - "Collusion", it is true. 724 00:55:45,485 --> 00:55:49,895 - "Collusion" and not... - "Collusion". It's a better title. 725 00:55:49,943 --> 00:55:54,602 - I'm a fan. - You never get bored. "On the razor's edge". 726 00:55:54,652 --> 00:55:57,816 And then he has nothing to envy to the American series. 727 00:55:57,860 --> 00:56:00,978 Is it difficult to be a cop? 728 00:56:01,027 --> 00:56:06,562 She's not really a policewoman, it is rather an expert on crisis situations. 729 00:56:10,068 --> 00:56:15,485 - It's a very physical role. She is a strong woman. - Ah, yes, but I like to play with the body. 730 00:56:15,527 --> 00:56:19,901 And then it's interesting to follow the same character over time. 731 00:56:19,943 --> 00:56:23,606 And more, now... people recognize me on the street. 732 00:56:23,652 --> 00:56:30,064 - More than before? - There is no comparison when I was acting Lars Noren at the Odeon did not reach the general public. 733 00:56:31,318 --> 00:56:34,436 - Selena, do you want some coffee? - Oh yes. Thank you. 734 00:56:35,735 --> 00:56:40,440 - Alain, do you want a coffee? - No thanks. - Have you seen the match? - No. Did you go? 735 00:56:40,485 --> 00:56:44,859 - Ah, they disgusted me. - Penalty in the fifth minute, very difficult to recover. 736 00:56:44,902 --> 00:56:49,690 - They just did crap. - Total defeat! Total. 737 00:56:49,735 --> 00:56:53,149 - Do you know who Xavier Dehoux is? - That one of telephony. - Yes, and many other things. 738 00:56:54,902 --> 00:56:58,979 - He's a very nice guy. A great indie rock fans. - Really? - Yup. 739 00:57:00,110 --> 00:57:03,642 He made a rather unusual journey. 740 00:57:03,693 --> 00:57:07,523 He started with Minitel in the '80s, before the Internet. 741 00:57:07,568 --> 00:57:10,235 - I read your Libération profile. - Yup. 742 00:57:10,277 --> 00:57:16,310 Now he wants to develop an information center and needs content. 743 00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:23,022 - For telephony? - Yes. It's accumulating a spoil of war and seeks new acquisitions. 744 00:57:24,652 --> 00:57:30,353 - So you will sell? - Well, publishing is not on the rise. 745 00:57:30,402 --> 00:57:32,726 Nor is it a loss-making sector. 746 00:57:32,777 --> 00:57:36,985 - We had given ourselves three years to catch up. - We made it? No. 747 00:57:37,777 --> 00:57:41,143 The figures say no, but we are on the right track. 748 00:57:41,193 --> 00:57:45,437 My shareholders expect good roads, expect profits. 749 00:57:45,485 --> 00:57:50,937 - And then prestige? - That's fine if you can make money. Not my case. 750 00:57:50,985 --> 00:57:53,273 Why did you invest in publishing? 751 00:57:53,318 --> 00:57:58,771 Because e-book sales had to explode, but that's what the analysts said, you first. 752 00:57:58,818 --> 00:58:01,568 - They said it was the future. - It will happen. 753 00:58:01,610 --> 00:58:07,395 Yes, but the opposite is happening. Sales plunge: less 15% in 2016. 754 00:58:07,443 --> 00:58:09,933 According to American statistics. 755 00:58:09,985 --> 00:58:14,110 - 15% is a lot. - It's an established trend. 756 00:58:14,152 --> 00:58:18,193 - What is it due to? - Prices have gone up, readers have fallen. 757 00:58:18,235 --> 00:58:23,817 - They are always cheaper than books. - Perhaps, but we have reached a critical threshold. 758 00:58:23,860 --> 00:58:28,933 - Do you know what? The sale of books has increased. - It's a contradiction. 759 00:58:30,485 --> 00:58:36,316 Reading habits change quickly. The audio books really take off. 760 00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,684 Yes, I noticed. 761 00:58:38,735 --> 00:58:43,607 - The audio books read by the stars. - Yes, exactly, read by the stars. 762 00:58:43,652 --> 00:58:48,275 We read more and more about tablets, on smartphones, less on e-readers. 763 00:58:48,318 --> 00:58:53,854 - On smartphones? - Yes, it's crazy! People read books on smartphones! 764 00:58:55,068 --> 00:59:00,770 - That's why synergy with telephony. - Exactly. - And with Xavier Dehoux. 765 00:59:02,735 --> 00:59:06,777 According to the market, must make a statement. 766 00:59:06,818 --> 00:59:09,189 It's time to sell. 767 00:59:11,152 --> 00:59:17,564 - Will you sell the Vertheuil Editions? - Well, I'm really tempted, old man. 768 00:59:17,610 --> 00:59:24,402 It would allow me to get out of it with my head high and to get a nice benefit. 769 00:59:24,443 --> 00:59:27,526 But I wanted to talk to you first. What do you think about it? 770 00:59:29,568 --> 00:59:38,943 - What, to sell? - No, e-books. Do they still have a margin of progress or is it over? 771 00:59:40,443 --> 00:59:43,857 Selena told us she read the new manuscript by Leonard Spiegel. 772 00:59:43,902 --> 00:59:47,399 - Really? This is new to me. - He says it's one of his best. 773 00:59:47,443 --> 00:59:50,810 Yes, at least, that's what I think. 774 00:59:50,860 --> 00:59:54,357 - "Foundation" I liked. - It's not recent. 775 00:59:54,402 --> 00:59:59,190 - Also "Police Report". - Yes, that too. - He didn't sell much. 776 00:59:59,735 --> 01:00:02,983 How is the new one called? 777 01:00:03,027 --> 01:00:05,730 - I do not remember. - "Final point". 778 01:00:05,777 --> 01:00:09,772 Ah yes, here. "Final point". Exact. 779 01:00:11,902 --> 01:00:17,567 - What do you want to do? - To sell. - And would you sell it together with the furniture? 780 01:00:17,610 --> 01:00:21,308 When the owner changes, change the strategy. I don't think I would stay. 781 01:00:21,818 --> 01:00:26,642 - Yes, but did you make a decision or ...? - There is no concrete offer. 782 01:00:27,985 --> 01:00:33,604 - He's negotiating... with Dehoux. - Dehoux? What is Dehoux? 783 01:00:33,652 --> 01:00:37,860 A businessman of dubious fame who made a fortune with digital. 784 01:00:41,277 --> 01:00:45,106 You said that digital it was the future of publishing. 785 01:00:46,985 --> 01:00:49,309 Now the figures say the opposite. 786 01:00:50,235 --> 01:00:51,978 But think a little! 787 01:00:58,860 --> 01:01:02,558 - You played your cards well. Brava, eh! - About what? 788 01:01:02,610 --> 01:01:05,360 Leonard's book, of course. 789 01:01:05,402 --> 01:01:07,192 I don't oblige you. 790 01:01:07,235 --> 01:01:11,100 - I will have the right to love a book and to talk about it. - I do not doubt it. 791 01:01:11,652 --> 01:01:15,481 - Two, thanks. - Why don't you want to publish it? 792 01:01:15,527 --> 01:01:18,609 Why do you want me to publish it? 793 01:01:18,652 --> 01:01:21,734 - Honestly? - I don't want to force you to be honesty. - It really exposes itself. For the first time. 794 01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:29,521 - Well, yes... - It's always the same, it self-analyzes... - It's more complex. 795 01:01:29,985 --> 01:01:32,557 - Good evening. - Hello. - Er... the number 5. 796 01:01:33,027 --> 01:01:35,647 - 92 euros. - This too, thanks. 797 01:01:35,693 --> 01:01:38,017 - Even that. - 95 euros in all. 798 01:01:38,068 --> 01:01:42,110 With the excuse of trudging through the mud, you authorize to tell horrors about everyone. 799 01:01:42,152 --> 01:01:45,186 - He fed me up. - In this book less. 800 01:01:46,485 --> 01:01:49,105 Can you turn on the light? 801 01:01:51,235 --> 01:01:58,027 - Thank you. - Where's Martin? - From my mother. 802 01:01:58,068 --> 01:02:00,640 And when does he bring it back? 803 01:02:00,693 --> 01:02:04,391 I do not know. They went to the amusement park. 804 01:02:04,443 --> 01:02:10,773 - Will he be able to do his homework? - They probably found traffic. 805 01:02:21,277 --> 01:02:23,943 Lower it, please! 806 01:02:25,610 --> 01:02:29,107 - My ears hurt. - Ah, sorry. 807 01:02:29,152 --> 01:02:32,234 Leonard is fumbling. I'm tired of fumbling with him. 808 01:02:32,277 --> 01:02:37,942 - A new publisher would do him good. - You are wrong. Leave it right now that it is free. 809 01:02:37,985 --> 01:02:39,941 The book will like it. 810 01:02:41,693 --> 01:02:44,360 What makes you say that? 811 01:02:46,277 --> 01:02:52,599 You can no longer see him with detachment. It is your relationship that is worn out. 812 01:02:53,443 --> 01:02:56,609 I don't like how she talks about women. 813 01:02:56,652 --> 01:02:58,727 Does it bother you? 814 01:02:58,777 --> 01:03:03,980 - What is the name of that girl who does that talk show on Channel 8? - Stephanie. 815 01:03:04,027 --> 01:03:09,941 - Stephanie Volkowski, yes. - Yup. - He went to bed, it's a well-known thing. 816 01:03:09,985 --> 01:03:15,023 - So? - You recognize it immediately. He changed the name... 817 01:03:15,068 --> 01:03:20,568 - Xenia? - It's so clear. - It didn't really come to me. 818 01:03:21,110 --> 01:03:23,434 You must be the only one. 819 01:03:24,693 --> 01:03:28,274 Who cares? They will be in very few to wonder who he really is. 820 01:03:28,318 --> 01:03:30,642 If I make tea, do you take it too? 821 01:03:32,277 --> 01:03:34,648 - Gladly. - OK. 822 01:03:51,818 --> 01:03:56,109 The scene of when didn't bother you are they going to see "The White Ribbon"? 823 01:03:56,152 --> 01:04:00,099 - Beautiful movie. - Yes, we saw it together. 824 01:04:00,152 --> 01:04:02,688 Oh yes, it's true. Yup. 825 01:04:03,027 --> 01:04:07,934 - It's very raw. - What do they do? 826 01:04:07,985 --> 01:04:10,356 The complacency with which he describes it. 827 01:04:11,943 --> 01:04:14,184 So? 828 01:04:14,235 --> 01:04:17,104 It's very embarrassing for you, don't you think? 829 01:04:20,985 --> 01:04:25,193 - Does it bother you? - Like the scene of the Turkish bath in Seville. 830 01:04:28,068 --> 01:04:31,268 - What's the problem? - Treats it as an object. 831 01:04:31,318 --> 01:04:33,773 Maybe that's what she likes. 832 01:04:33,818 --> 01:04:35,940 It is what it implies. 833 01:04:35,985 --> 01:04:38,522 Personally it bothers me. 834 01:04:38,568 --> 01:04:42,563 The point is if it's good literature. 835 01:04:42,610 --> 01:04:48,229 Yes, but I feel tremendously uncomfortable for Stephanie Volkowski. 836 01:04:48,277 --> 01:04:52,437 - What's that got to do with it? - If I see it on TV, I think of "The White Ribbon". 837 01:04:52,860 --> 01:04:57,933 - But stop it! - I really mean it bothers me. - Come on, Alain! 838 01:04:58,777 --> 01:05:01,101 But now I will have to publish it. 839 01:05:02,235 --> 01:05:05,732 Why? You do what you want. 840 01:05:05,777 --> 01:05:09,108 It is the first time in 10 years that Marc-Antoine is interested in a book. 841 01:05:09,152 --> 01:05:14,273 - No, it is the companion who seems interested. - Yes, it's the same thing. 842 01:05:17,693 --> 01:05:21,356 Mm-mm. Yup. 843 01:05:27,943 --> 01:05:33,645 I agree with you. I still haven't convinced Alain. 844 01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:35,854 Kiss. 845 01:06:01,943 --> 01:06:04,184 Would you give me the keys again? 846 01:06:06,818 --> 01:06:11,192 Have you changed your mind? It's over. Is it for Alain? 847 01:06:13,568 --> 01:06:14,813 I read the messages. 848 01:06:17,693 --> 01:06:21,735 - Since when do you read me the messages? - More or less always. 849 01:06:26,318 --> 01:06:30,148 - Do you want? - I don't want anything, thanks. 850 01:06:30,193 --> 01:06:33,891 - It's not for Alain. - Partially yes. 851 01:06:33,943 --> 01:06:37,725 - I thought you preferred women. - I prefer women, in fact. 852 01:06:37,777 --> 01:06:40,148 Not exclusively. 853 01:06:40,777 --> 01:06:47,059 - Is it serious? - It's intended to finish soon, but we will remain friends. 854 01:06:47,110 --> 01:06:49,564 Don't you want to be with him? 855 01:06:51,860 --> 01:06:55,937 He is married and has a son. I really don't think he wants to leave them. 856 01:06:55,985 --> 01:07:00,525 It is better that way. And then I'm leaving. 857 01:07:02,152 --> 01:07:05,767 - Where is it? - I couldn't talk about it. 858 01:07:06,527 --> 01:07:10,853 I did an interview. It's a tempting offer. 859 01:07:10,902 --> 01:07:15,395 Marketing management for a European-level media group. 860 01:07:16,818 --> 01:07:21,358 - And where will you go? - In London. I've already lived there. 861 01:07:23,152 --> 01:07:26,981 - Thank you. - Good evening, sir. - Thank you too. 862 01:07:35,860 --> 01:07:41,147 I saw that you wrote a report on the future of literary criticism. 863 01:07:41,693 --> 01:07:47,478 - Did you read it? - No, I just browsed. You are not very positive. 864 01:07:47,527 --> 01:07:50,442 They are facts, information found on the Internet. 865 01:07:50,485 --> 01:07:52,891 Take what interests you and throw the rest. 866 01:07:52,943 --> 01:07:54,734 Is that the trend? 867 01:07:55,527 --> 01:07:57,480 The role of critics in favor of writers has weakened. 868 01:07:58,277 --> 01:08:00,601 It's a quick involution that must be anticipated. 869 01:08:00,652 --> 01:08:03,485 - Like newspapers that lose readers? - Yup. 870 01:08:03,860 --> 01:08:07,901 - Yes, but for the benefit of them digital editions. - Or blogs. 871 01:08:08,568 --> 01:08:12,812 - So what changes? - Which is written differently for the web. 872 01:08:12,860 --> 01:08:16,902 Care is taken to optimize the use of keywords. 873 01:08:16,943 --> 01:08:19,018 To be indexed by robots. 874 01:08:20,235 --> 01:08:25,817 - Excuse me, what robots? - They manage the personal information for search engines. 875 01:08:25,860 --> 01:08:32,107 - You can also test the virality of the titles. - I mean, if a security isn't viral, change it. - Yup. 876 01:08:32,152 --> 01:08:37,604 I don't understand where you want to go. Indexed, viral... Criticism supports books. 877 01:08:37,652 --> 01:08:42,642 Until a certain point. It has a subjectivity which is not necessarily that of your target. 878 01:08:42,693 --> 01:08:46,226 - I have no target. - Of course you have it. 879 01:08:46,277 --> 01:08:48,601 Publish books to sell them. 880 01:08:48,652 --> 01:08:52,398 And the more you let those interested know, the better it is for you. 881 01:08:52,443 --> 01:08:56,369 - I don't like to think like that. - But it's been so long since. 882 01:08:56,370 --> 01:09:01,438 Speak directly to your potential readers, instead of inviting critics to lunch. 883 01:09:01,485 --> 01:09:06,392 You do not need the subjectivity of intermediaries, today there are algorithms. 884 01:09:06,443 --> 01:09:10,024 Thank you. Algorithms that tell me what? 885 01:09:10,068 --> 01:09:12,688 Analyze your personal data. 886 01:09:13,735 --> 01:09:17,812 If you bought diapers, if you took a trip to Israel... 887 01:09:17,860 --> 01:09:22,104 ...You've seen a documentary about Indonesia on James Bond streaming... 888 01:09:22,152 --> 01:09:25,021 - If you searched for a gay icon... - It is clear, I understand. 889 01:09:25,068 --> 01:09:28,898 They identify you, anticipate tastes. 890 01:09:28,943 --> 01:09:34,100 You are more predictable than you think. See the tips on Amazon. They work. 891 01:09:34,152 --> 01:09:40,066 In the future we will trust the most algorithms based on consumer habits... 892 01:09:40,110 --> 01:09:43,441 ...of the critics pleased with his power. 893 01:09:43,485 --> 01:09:48,190 - You're severe. - Any form of power power, today, is questioned. 894 01:09:48,235 --> 01:09:51,851 The algorithms do not contribute to the exchange of views. 895 01:09:52,735 --> 01:09:56,481 If you talk about analysis or reflection, it's completely different. 896 01:09:56,527 --> 01:09:59,147 There will always be blogs more or less followed. 897 01:09:59,193 --> 01:10:04,646 - I'm talking about sales. - In terms of sales, nothing is ever defined. 898 01:10:04,693 --> 01:10:09,233 - The research does not say. - And what do the research say? 899 01:10:09,277 --> 01:10:13,521 Who buys the records, who goes to the movies, the readers... 900 01:10:13,568 --> 01:10:18,310 ...they act like influencers who follow on Twitter or friends on Facebook. 901 01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:24,026 But you know that most like are handled by hackers paid for it. 902 01:10:24,068 --> 01:10:28,359 However on the net they have effects that reflect a contemporary sensibility. 903 01:10:30,152 --> 01:10:32,855 Do you think it's a good thing? 904 01:10:34,318 --> 01:10:36,606 I don't have an opinion. 905 01:10:42,985 --> 01:10:46,067 - Do you come back to the office? - Yes, I have to get my stuff back. 906 01:10:46,110 --> 01:10:49,275 - And you? - Yes, I left my car keys. 907 01:10:58,693 --> 01:11:01,959 I found this one there. 908 01:11:03,235 --> 01:11:05,772 - It's a gift. - A gift? 909 01:11:05,818 --> 01:11:08,901 - For what? - Ah, you know. 910 01:11:10,152 --> 01:11:12,937 - No. - Goodbye. 911 01:11:12,985 --> 01:11:16,316 - Why farewell? - Why are you leaving? 912 01:11:23,193 --> 01:11:27,935 - How do you know it? - Mm! I know. 913 01:11:27,985 --> 01:11:30,984 - Do you know that long? - In real time. 914 01:11:33,027 --> 01:11:35,481 Do you know Emeline Rittenberg? 915 01:11:37,318 --> 01:11:40,732 - Will you replace me? - I'm waiting for an answer. 916 01:11:41,485 --> 01:11:45,148 - She is very ambitious. - He loves money above all. 917 01:11:46,027 --> 01:11:48,896 - Will you be paid more than me? - Eh, yes. 918 01:11:48,943 --> 01:11:51,942 Do I love money enough? 919 01:11:51,985 --> 01:11:54,142 You are interested in other things. 920 01:11:54,943 --> 01:11:59,353 - Besides sex? - Besides sex? Well, I don't know. 921 01:11:59,402 --> 01:12:01,856 The power. 922 01:12:01,902 --> 01:12:04,687 - It's not true. - Questionable. 923 01:12:04,735 --> 01:12:07,272 And publishing, in your own way. 924 01:12:07,985 --> 01:12:12,062 Otherwise you would do something else, more remunerative. 925 01:12:12,110 --> 01:12:16,354 I also believe that you are more connected to literature than I want to admit. 926 01:12:24,235 --> 01:12:26,985 My father was a writer. 927 01:12:29,693 --> 01:12:32,443 I read his poems. 928 01:12:32,485 --> 01:12:35,437 - I didn't know. - And I like them very much. 929 01:12:38,443 --> 01:12:41,857 I had other offers, but I thought I was useful here. 930 01:12:41,902 --> 01:12:46,525 - At what? - To contribute to reflection on XXI century publishing. 931 01:12:46,568 --> 01:12:50,729 - To reinvent it, perhaps. - Must be reinvented? 932 01:12:50,777 --> 01:12:53,443 It will change radically. 933 01:12:53,485 --> 01:12:57,314 - I'm less convinced of you. - Everything will change. 934 01:12:57,360 --> 01:13:01,058 But change you have to choose it, don't suffer it. 935 01:13:06,652 --> 01:13:10,729 Remember what the Prince of Salina says at the end of "Il Gattopardo"? 936 01:13:11,693 --> 01:13:16,435 Yes sure. "Everything must change so that nothing changes". 937 01:13:18,235 --> 01:13:19,815 Exactly. 938 01:13:24,652 --> 01:13:27,318 It's a strange quote. 939 01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:31,189 - Why? - Everyone repeats it, I hear it everywhere. 940 01:13:31,235 --> 01:13:34,353 Thank you, I didn't think you were that ruthless. 941 01:13:34,402 --> 01:13:38,231 I'm not talking about you, I'm just saying that finds more feedback today... 942 01:13:38,277 --> 01:13:41,525 ...which when Tomasi di Lampedusa he wrote it half a century ago. 943 01:13:43,652 --> 01:13:45,857 Why is it the end of a world? 944 01:13:46,985 --> 01:13:50,233 Perhaps there is reason to be worried. 945 01:13:54,485 --> 01:13:57,152 - Good morning. - Good morning. 946 01:14:05,693 --> 01:14:10,020 - Yes, I take a coffee, please. - Immediately. 947 01:14:10,068 --> 01:14:12,854 And a glass of water, big. 948 01:14:12,902 --> 01:14:15,024 Yes. 949 01:14:19,756 --> 01:14:25,360 Thank you for coming to my area. And sorry the hour, but I have the footage at dawn. 950 01:14:25,402 --> 01:14:27,393 No problem. 951 01:14:27,443 --> 01:14:30,691 Um... double coffee and a juice, please. Thank you. 952 01:14:30,735 --> 01:14:35,524 There... there... I brought you the book. He arrived last night. 953 01:14:35,568 --> 01:14:37,311 Thank you. 954 01:14:38,402 --> 01:14:40,773 I wrote you a dedication. 955 01:14:43,110 --> 01:14:45,398 "For you, Selena ..." 956 01:14:49,152 --> 01:14:51,606 Thank you. Very nice. 957 01:14:53,277 --> 01:14:56,192 "Final point". Bold as a title. 958 01:14:57,402 --> 01:15:01,183 - Why? - Well, it gives the impression that you won't write anymore. 959 01:15:01,235 --> 01:15:03,523 Well, thank you very much. 960 01:15:05,610 --> 01:15:07,898 - What are you doing? - Beat on the wood. 961 01:15:07,943 --> 01:15:10,475 - It's not wood. - And what is it? 962 01:15:10,943 --> 01:15:14,475 - I don't know, a coating made of plastic, but not wood. - Oh yes? 963 01:15:14,527 --> 01:15:18,817 Like Thomas Bernhard, who wrote "Extinction" and then died. 964 01:15:20,985 --> 01:15:24,565 But then you've decided to destroy my morale. 965 01:15:24,610 --> 01:15:26,732 C'mon, I was joking! 966 01:15:26,777 --> 01:15:29,443 Well, it's a bad joke. 967 01:15:29,485 --> 01:15:32,816 Well, you could tell me before the title, right? 968 01:15:32,860 --> 01:15:35,266 I did not think about it. 969 01:15:35,318 --> 01:15:38,981 - Seeing it printed, he came to me in mind. - Stop responding to messages. 970 01:15:39,027 --> 01:15:43,436 I don't know why I hadn't noticed it before. No! 971 01:15:45,193 --> 01:15:48,358 And should I draw a conclusion? 972 01:15:50,152 --> 01:15:52,025 You do a little. 973 01:15:52,068 --> 01:15:57,106 Maybe... are you busy with the series? 974 01:15:57,152 --> 01:15:59,439 Don't have more time? 975 01:16:00,568 --> 01:16:03,768 It is not a question of time. 976 01:16:03,818 --> 01:16:07,979 It's a matter of... wear. 977 01:16:08,027 --> 01:16:09,734 Wear. 978 01:16:10,110 --> 01:16:15,646 - Do you know how long we've been together? - I don't know, but "together" is a little excessive. 979 01:16:15,693 --> 01:16:21,276 I would say we have a story... quite fragmented. 980 01:16:23,193 --> 01:16:25,564 - Six years. - I wouldn't have told you, you know? 981 01:16:25,610 --> 01:16:27,649 Yes. Do the accounts. 982 01:16:30,568 --> 01:16:33,318 Oh, no ice in the juice. 983 01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:37,686 - All right. - They bring in more ice than juice. 984 01:16:40,568 --> 01:16:43,900 So it means that won't you come with me to Naples? 985 01:16:44,777 --> 01:16:47,776 How do you say? Feelings are always mutual. 986 01:16:47,818 --> 01:16:52,524 If I don't come, it's also because... you don't want me to come. 987 01:16:55,902 --> 01:17:01,852 - Are you trying to tell me it's over? - A little more than trying. 988 01:17:10,318 --> 01:17:16,517 Well, I think we have to... I have to give myself some time to try to do things right. 989 01:17:16,568 --> 01:17:21,357 Leonard, it's already happened, we're just saying it clearly. 990 01:17:21,402 --> 01:17:24,401 I have no time to discuss it now. 991 01:17:27,068 --> 01:17:30,517 This morning we go around the suburbs, I'm in a hurry. 992 01:17:30,568 --> 01:17:32,560 - To her. - Thank you. 993 01:17:37,860 --> 01:17:42,151 - Was this urgent? - No, not exactly. 994 01:17:45,652 --> 01:17:50,145 Actually, I wanted... I wanted to ask you something precise. 995 01:17:52,818 --> 01:17:55,308 Not to make a book of it. 996 01:17:55,902 --> 01:18:02,231 - No. No, no, I don't want to. - Even... despite the temptation. 997 01:18:02,277 --> 01:18:04,399 No I will not do it. 998 01:18:04,443 --> 01:18:08,485 - If you do, I won't forgive you. - I promise you. 999 01:18:08,527 --> 01:18:13,434 - I will not save your book as the last one time, I assure you. - I promise, I won't. 1000 01:18:13,485 --> 01:18:19,151 - I'd tear you to pieces. You can't imagine yourself! - I imagine. - I would make your life hell. 1001 01:18:19,193 --> 01:18:22,062 I think I got the message, you were very clear. 1002 01:18:22,110 --> 01:18:27,562 - Do I have to repeat it? - No, it's okay. Message received. 1003 01:18:29,652 --> 01:18:34,559 - Do you want to share a Uber with me? I go in Bastille. - No, I calmly finish my coffee. 1004 01:18:34,610 --> 01:18:38,439 I have an interview on the radio this afternoon. 1005 01:18:40,735 --> 01:18:43,106 We have many programs public information. 1006 01:18:43,152 --> 01:18:45,724 - The special editions of the newsletter during the elections... - Ah. 1007 01:18:46,527 --> 01:18:49,396 Theater programs, talk shows with the studio audience... 1008 01:18:49,443 --> 01:18:53,652 ...and the concerts we play live and in full. 1009 01:18:53,693 --> 01:18:57,190 Take a seat, I come back two minutes before the live. 1010 01:18:57,235 --> 01:19:00,767 - Do you need something? - No no thanks. - See you later. 1011 01:19:03,443 --> 01:19:06,277 I take this opportunity to give you a little summary. 1012 01:19:06,318 --> 01:19:10,609 There is still not much, but something should move during the week. 1013 01:19:11,652 --> 01:19:14,734 - Are you OK? You look a little bit already. - No, I'm fine. 1014 01:19:15,985 --> 01:19:20,062 Okay. The good news is that to the journalist of "Female Version" is liked. 1015 01:19:20,110 --> 01:19:27,601 - "Female Version"? - It's very read. Really. He has a much followed blog. 1016 01:19:27,985 --> 01:19:32,442 - Then there's Pierre Schultz, from whom I wait a feedback. - Forget it, he hates me. 1017 01:19:32,485 --> 01:19:35,484 It's not true. I gave him the book myself, he was happy. 1018 01:19:35,527 --> 01:19:38,858 He really enjoyed the title, he said it was a good choice. 1019 01:19:38,902 --> 01:19:41,687 He asked me about you. We talked a little... 1020 01:19:41,735 --> 01:19:45,433 We've known each other since high school, he never spoke well of a book of mine. 1021 01:19:45,485 --> 01:19:52,016 For "Police Report" I think he had written a nice article. He told me. 1022 01:19:52,068 --> 01:19:53,859 Did you read the article? 1023 01:19:53,902 --> 01:19:57,648 - No, eight years ago I was still in college. - It's a rattlesnake. 1024 01:20:00,943 --> 01:20:03,149 - Your turn. Come with me. - We arrive. 1025 01:20:08,818 --> 01:20:13,109 - Sit in front of the yellow microphone. - Hello. - Hello. - Hello. 1026 01:20:13,610 --> 01:20:16,562 - Hi how are you? - Fine thanks. - You are welcome. 1027 01:20:16,610 --> 01:20:22,110 - Hello. - Hello. - I introduce you. Leonard. Sophie. Sophie. Leonard. 1028 01:20:22,193 --> 01:20:24,351 We are about to begin. You are welcome. 1029 01:20:32,485 --> 01:20:39,016 Hi, today is Leonard Spiegel with us, author of "Foundation", "Farewells in a low voice"... 1030 01:20:39,068 --> 01:20:42,233 ...who returns with a new novel, "Final point". 1031 01:20:42,277 --> 01:20:47,350 - But, Leonard, is this really a novel? - Well, yes, I claim the term "novel". 1032 01:20:47,943 --> 01:20:51,725 Okay, novel, but it's not anymore a fictional autobiography? 1033 01:20:51,777 --> 01:20:57,015 Yes, I know this kind exists, but I don't know exactly what it means. 1034 01:20:57,068 --> 01:21:01,312 - So let's see... The narrator his name is Leonard. Am I wrong? - Exactly. 1035 01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:06,314 - Are you a writer? - Yes. - He lives in yours same neighborhood and apartment. - Yup. 1036 01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:10,355 And who knows you a little, can recognize some figures in your life. 1037 01:21:10,402 --> 01:21:14,646 - Actually it's more complex than that. - I think it's pretty clear. 1038 01:21:14,693 --> 01:21:18,025 So we wondered by Michael Haneke... 1039 01:21:18,068 --> 01:21:22,608 - There's a pretty strong scene that maybe he didn't like it. - Yup. 1040 01:21:22,652 --> 01:21:26,812 - During a screening of "The White Ribbon". - Yes. - It's very disturbing. 1041 01:21:26,860 --> 01:21:31,186 Yes a bit', but it is to make people laugh, that is the purpose. 1042 01:21:31,235 --> 01:21:35,561 Everyone has his sense of humor. But there remains a film on the rise of Nazism. 1043 01:21:35,610 --> 01:21:37,401 It creates a certain unease. 1044 01:21:38,860 --> 01:21:41,978 Leonard Spiegel... 1045 01:21:42,027 --> 01:21:46,602 To get back to the fictional autobiography, you can summarize the plot of "The White Ribbon"? 1046 01:21:46,860 --> 01:21:52,360 - Yes, yes. Yes, of course, with pleasure. - You are welcome. 1047 01:21:52,402 --> 01:21:54,974 - Er... - Even briefly. 1048 01:21:55,860 --> 01:22:01,277 So, it's a film about Germany... before the war... 1049 01:22:01,318 --> 01:22:04,401 It's... a vintage movie. 1050 01:22:04,985 --> 01:22:10,023 - There are some tweets... Generally positive. - Let me see. 1051 01:22:12,485 --> 01:22:17,724 - Not all of them. - Not everyone, but it's not a very happy time. 1052 01:22:17,777 --> 01:22:19,982 We're waiting for a reply tonight. - Sorry. 1053 01:22:20,027 --> 01:22:24,650 - Hello? - I heard you. It seemed very interesting, very pungent. 1054 01:22:24,985 --> 01:22:29,939 - Yes I agree. - Yes, it's not one complacent him. - Not at all, no. 1055 01:22:29,985 --> 01:22:34,110 He's good at the interviewer. He doesn't ask the usual flunkies questions. 1056 01:22:34,152 --> 01:22:37,850 Yes, I can confirm. And I? How did you find me? 1057 01:22:37,943 --> 01:22:41,606 You stammer less than usual, you made a good impression on me. 1058 01:22:41,652 --> 01:22:44,224 Sorry, they're calling me. 1059 01:22:44,277 --> 01:22:48,058 Here... Wait... No, it's David, I have to answer, I'm sorry. 1060 01:22:48,110 --> 01:22:50,149 - No, wait. - Yes, but I have to answer. 1061 01:22:50,193 --> 01:22:53,774 - Yes, David. Arrival, I was at... - Valérie? - Okay, a second. 1062 01:22:53,818 --> 01:22:56,771 - Hello? - I'll call you. - OK. 1063 01:22:56,818 --> 01:23:01,228 Yes, David? 1064 01:23:01,277 --> 01:23:05,058 Such as?! It is not possible! 1065 01:23:06,068 --> 01:23:09,151 It won't be true... No I do not understand. 1066 01:23:09,277 --> 01:23:11,683 No, listen... The police?! 1067 01:23:11,735 --> 01:23:14,817 No, let's not talk about these things over the phone. Arrival. 1068 01:23:32,902 --> 01:23:36,268 Seriously?! What comes to mind? 1069 01:23:36,318 --> 01:23:39,401 Between you and me... it is not the first time. 1070 01:23:39,443 --> 01:23:44,516 - You should have told me. - I won't tell you not everything. - Is there anything worse? - No. 1071 01:23:44,568 --> 01:23:48,812 - Anyway, it will stay between me and the police. - It's not like that, everything comes to light! 1072 01:23:48,860 --> 01:23:52,985 - You are a politician, you must be transparent. - Nude in the middle of the street? 1073 01:23:53,027 --> 01:23:57,022 - It is not the same thing to be naked or exemplary. - Exemplary? Don't make me the moral. 1074 01:23:57,068 --> 01:24:00,186 Instead yes! Politicians pass life to do morality to others. 1075 01:24:00,235 --> 01:24:03,981 - The same thing for me. - Jack Daniels with ice. - Yes, that's what I need. 1076 01:24:04,027 --> 01:24:08,436 - Public morality, social morality, but private life is different. - No, it's the same! 1077 01:24:08,485 --> 01:24:13,392 - What two consenting adults do concerns the voters? - Hiding something makes you suspicious. 1078 01:24:13,443 --> 01:24:17,225 - Do you find it normal? - It doesn't matter what I think, it's the public opinion that counts. 1079 01:24:17,277 --> 01:24:20,809 They are the same ones that just revolt do they touch their personal data? 1080 01:24:20,860 --> 01:24:22,891 They have not chosen politics. 1081 01:24:23,610 --> 01:24:26,396 - And I who dedicate myself to the public good... - Wait, stop! 1082 01:24:26,443 --> 01:24:29,015 Nobody thinks that you dedicate yourself to the public good. 1083 01:24:29,068 --> 01:24:32,869 They are convinced that you are doing politics to satisfy your ego or to enrich yourself. 1084 01:24:32,917 --> 01:24:35,604 - But it's false! - Yes, but this is the perception they have. 1085 01:24:35,652 --> 01:24:37,809 You must be flawless, above suspicion. 1086 01:24:37,860 --> 01:24:42,565 Impeccable means heterosexual, monogamous, that the Sunday lunch with the happy little family? 1087 01:24:42,610 --> 01:24:46,984 I'm not telling you this. And then many politicians they claim to be homosexual and do nothing. 1088 01:24:47,027 --> 01:24:51,732 - You say that. - Instead you shouldn't get arrested while leaving a prostitute's camper. 1089 01:24:51,777 --> 01:24:57,526 It is an unacceptable thing, which gives an image regrettable of you. At least don't get caught! 1090 01:24:57,568 --> 01:25:03,068 - Easier said that done. - I remind you that it is a crime subject to sanction. 1091 01:25:03,110 --> 01:25:06,275 - 350 euros. - Oh... 1092 01:25:08,568 --> 01:25:12,350 Welcome back. The debate continues... 1093 01:25:12,402 --> 01:25:16,811 - Good evening. - Good evening. - An authoritative voice has reached us... 1094 01:25:16,860 --> 01:25:23,853 - Everything good? - For nothing. I saw David... He made me despair. 1095 01:25:23,902 --> 01:25:25,977 Why? 1096 01:25:26,610 --> 01:25:30,652 - I can not say it. It made me despair. - You can't say one thing in half. 1097 01:25:30,693 --> 01:25:33,479 It made me despair, period. I will not say why. 1098 01:25:33,527 --> 01:25:37,936 - However... - Don't insist, please stop it. 1099 01:25:38,152 --> 01:25:40,025 Okay. 1100 01:25:43,610 --> 01:25:47,557 - Would you like something to drink? - No thanks, I drank too much. 1101 01:26:03,027 --> 01:26:05,516 I have to tell you something. 1102 01:26:06,527 --> 01:26:08,898 No one forces you. 1103 01:26:11,277 --> 01:26:16,610 - Don't you want to know? - Yes. Just that sometimes there are things that it is better not to say. 1104 01:26:16,902 --> 01:26:20,517 - Yes, but not in a couple. - Especially in a couple. 1105 01:26:23,860 --> 01:26:29,193 Believe in concealment and... in hypocrisy? 1106 01:26:32,235 --> 01:26:35,851 - Well, yes, I believe it. - Yup? 1107 01:26:35,902 --> 01:26:39,150 In reality this is not the case. I believe in the implicit. 1108 01:26:40,485 --> 01:26:44,397 - The implicit. - You know, I know, no need to get bogged down. 1109 01:26:44,735 --> 01:26:47,734 - It's a strange philosophy. - Well... I don't know. 1110 01:26:47,777 --> 01:26:52,400 Because, you think it's better suffer when you can avoid it? 1111 01:26:52,985 --> 01:26:54,728 Listen... 1112 01:26:56,485 --> 01:27:03,727 I have a... a... a story... outside of our relationship. 1113 01:27:03,777 --> 01:27:05,318 Here it is. 1114 01:27:07,027 --> 01:27:09,267 IS? 1115 01:27:10,235 --> 01:27:15,474 - Anything. I have a story. - But I know that. Your book is not about anything else. 1116 01:27:15,527 --> 01:27:17,981 It is a fictional autobiography, indeed, it is indeed a novel. 1117 01:27:19,652 --> 01:27:21,857 Really? I would not have said it. 1118 01:27:23,110 --> 01:27:25,267 Instead it's just like that. 1119 01:27:27,152 --> 01:27:33,066 - And you thought you didn't suspect it? - No, you never said anything. 1120 01:27:41,193 --> 01:27:45,105 - What's up? - I can not believe it. But come on, it's not possible. - Such as? 1121 01:27:45,152 --> 01:27:47,108 Nothing forget it. 1122 01:27:56,027 --> 01:28:01,058 - Is it with Stephanie Volkowski? - No, it's not with Stephanie Volkowski. 1123 01:28:01,110 --> 01:28:05,685 - With whom then? - Do you see that the implicit has limits? 1124 01:28:05,735 --> 01:28:08,141 Someone I know? 1125 01:28:11,193 --> 01:28:13,185 IS'... 1126 01:28:14,527 --> 01:28:17,691 - It's Selena. - Selena?! 1127 01:28:18,610 --> 01:28:24,110 - Selena Selena? - Yes. we don't know so many Selena. Therefore not... 1128 01:28:25,402 --> 01:28:28,436 - I never would have said. - Anyway, it's over. 1129 01:28:40,235 --> 01:28:47,395 - Why should I believe you? - I told you because I want to restore trust between us. 1130 01:28:47,443 --> 01:28:51,983 - Telling me your stories. - Stopping to lie. 1131 01:28:52,818 --> 01:28:58,816 - Just lie to me. The truth you tell everyone in the books. - Yes, but through a curtain of smoke. 1132 01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:03,734 - Forgive me, but your curtain is thin. - But it confuses the tracks. 1133 01:29:03,777 --> 01:29:06,610 You also thought it was Stephanie Volkowski. 1134 01:29:06,652 --> 01:29:10,516 Look... I mean, do you realize? 1135 01:29:10,568 --> 01:29:13,768 Do you listen to yourself? It does not make sense! What difference do you want me to make? 1136 01:29:13,818 --> 01:29:17,896 Certain things are not written if you have not lived them. Who believes it? 1137 01:29:17,943 --> 01:29:20,433 Yes I know. 1138 01:29:21,402 --> 01:29:25,017 Anyhow, nothing changes if it's Stephanie or Selena. 1139 01:29:25,068 --> 01:29:28,482 Change that at least I told you. 1140 01:30:18,402 --> 01:30:21,484 I've already come. It is on the right. Here, on the right. 1141 01:30:35,735 --> 01:30:40,559 - I'm there. - The sea is in front of us? I lost my orientation. 1142 01:30:40,610 --> 01:30:42,767 No, it's behind the trees. 1143 01:31:05,485 --> 01:31:10,558 - Hi there! - It's us! - Hello. I didn't hear you coming. 1144 01:31:12,277 --> 01:31:17,760 - How are you, Alain? - Welcome. - Thank you. Here we are. - Hello. How are you? - Well. 1145 01:31:17,860 --> 01:31:22,353 - Hi, Selena. - Hello, "Valéria", how are you - "Valerie". - Sorry, I'm always wrong. 1146 01:31:22,402 --> 01:31:26,646 - You never remember. It's funny! - How are you? - Well. 1147 01:31:26,693 --> 01:31:30,688 - I'm glad to see you. - It's been a long time for me too. 1148 01:31:30,735 --> 01:31:35,524 - You are right! It doesn't seem like a long time and instead... - It is so, the years fly in a moment. 1149 01:31:35,568 --> 01:31:38,272 You had trouble finding the way to get here? 1150 01:31:38,318 --> 01:31:42,893 No not at all. Also because Leonard he had already been there and remembered the street. 1151 01:31:42,943 --> 01:31:47,483 - Yes I've been there. Once... long ago. - I do not remember. 1152 01:31:47,527 --> 01:31:53,774 - Maybe you weren't there. - And where was I? - Boh! You were in Japan, I think. I do not know. 1153 01:31:53,818 --> 01:31:59,152 - It wasn't that long ago. - No... - Ah, well, no, maybe not. 1154 01:31:59,193 --> 01:32:01,185 Then... 1155 01:32:01,235 --> 01:32:03,807 Come! 1156 01:32:03,860 --> 01:32:06,776 - It's good to see each other here. - Yup. 1157 01:32:06,818 --> 01:32:11,690 - Where can I support this? - Make yourself at home. Here it is. 1158 01:32:12,985 --> 01:32:16,399 - Well done for you, right? - Yes, well done, thanks. 1159 01:32:16,443 --> 01:32:20,308 - Ah, not too much. - Thank you. - Lemon? - Yes maybe. 1160 01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:23,809 - It looks very good. - I'll put it here, sorry. - Imagine. 1161 01:32:24,943 --> 01:32:30,016 - Here. - Wow! Thanks a lot! - Sorry, yes, it's a bit... - It's fine. Thank you. 1162 01:32:31,068 --> 01:32:33,772 - Don't you want fish? - No thanks, I finish the peppers first. 1163 01:32:33,818 --> 01:32:38,726 - Do you know that I don't miss an episode of "Collusion"? - I can't take it anymore, I'm sick of it. 1164 01:32:38,777 --> 01:32:44,193 - I refused the fourth season. - And how they do it in these cases? - They kill the character. 1165 01:32:44,235 --> 01:32:47,353 - Will they kill you? - Yes. - And how? 1166 01:32:47,402 --> 01:32:53,731 She has a husband who can't stand her... He will kill her and will melt the body in an acid tank. 1167 01:32:53,777 --> 01:32:58,435 - No! - No, I don't know anything! Just kidding. 1168 01:32:59,610 --> 01:33:03,142 It's a beautiful series, however, very compelling. 1169 01:33:03,193 --> 01:33:05,813 Do not you think that there are too many cops on TV? 1170 01:33:05,860 --> 01:33:10,684 She is not a policewoman. She is an expert on crisis situations. 1171 01:33:10,735 --> 01:33:15,358 - She's a cop. A policewoman! - Yes, but I'm passionate about it. 1172 01:33:15,402 --> 01:33:18,235 Now you can no longer experiment something except as an addiction. 1173 01:33:19,110 --> 01:33:21,730 It seems a bit exaggerated, I did not mean that. 1174 01:33:21,777 --> 01:33:25,309 No, I wouldn't say so which I am dependent on the series. 1175 01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:30,232 But yes, instead you're right, the series is like that. They lead you to a compulsive vision. 1176 01:33:30,277 --> 01:33:34,023 - It actually relaxes me. - Sorry, I don't have it with you. 1177 01:33:34,068 --> 01:33:37,268 - But I don't do this job to relax people. - No but... 1178 01:33:37,318 --> 01:33:42,060 - You're wrong, many think so. - I'm not sure. 1179 01:33:42,110 --> 01:33:49,234 - There is a great demand for literature escapist. - Even relaxing music? 1180 01:33:49,277 --> 01:33:52,560 Sure. Get coloring books for adults. 1181 01:33:54,818 --> 01:33:58,102 Don't make that face. We also publish them and sell a lot. 1182 01:33:58,777 --> 01:34:01,895 Sorry, I didn't understand correctly. Coloring books for adults? 1183 01:34:02,110 --> 01:34:05,559 Yes. Come back from work, relax, discharge stress... 1184 01:34:07,027 --> 01:34:10,773 - Still wine? - Yes, thank you. - Here's to you. 1185 01:34:10,818 --> 01:34:15,524 - Nothing more, thank you. - And you download coloring what? 1186 01:34:15,568 --> 01:34:18,900 Coloring plant motifs, mandalas... 1187 01:34:18,943 --> 01:34:23,068 - You distract yourself. - But, excuse me, is it widespread? 1188 01:34:23,110 --> 01:34:26,607 It is a social phenomenon. It should be listened to. 1189 01:34:26,652 --> 01:34:31,642 What bitterness. In conclusion, I feel completely incompetent in this. 1190 01:34:31,693 --> 01:34:35,984 You know, there is evasion literature. It is a fact. 1191 01:34:36,027 --> 01:34:40,685 My books are the opposite. The reader is even worse off. 1192 01:34:40,735 --> 01:34:43,521 There are those who write "feel-good-books". 1193 01:34:43,568 --> 01:34:48,227 I would say that I write... of the "feel-bad-books". 1194 01:34:48,277 --> 01:34:51,395 There is also an audience for those. 1195 01:34:51,443 --> 01:34:54,193 The desserts go with the coffee, I guess. Do I put them here? 1196 01:34:54,235 --> 01:34:57,234 - Do you want a hand? - No, no, I can do it. 1197 01:34:59,443 --> 01:35:03,308 So, Selena, what are your plans at the moment? 1198 01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:05,897 "Fedra"... at the theater. 1199 01:35:07,027 --> 01:35:11,353 - He's with a young Belgian director. - Wow! "Fedra"! 1200 01:35:12,235 --> 01:35:16,728 - Do you want to interpret it? - Yes, I know it's an old woman's role. 1201 01:35:16,777 --> 01:35:22,561 - No. - Yes, yes. When they propose you Fedra is usually the beginning of the end. 1202 01:35:23,027 --> 01:35:25,516 Dominique Blanc made it, directed by Chereau. 1203 01:35:25,568 --> 01:35:28,982 At first I thought that not I would have done it even under torture. 1204 01:35:29,027 --> 01:35:33,934 Then I told myself that it was still a nice text. It would have been stupid to miss it. 1205 01:35:33,985 --> 01:35:37,316 - Especially for the wrong reasons. - Yeah. 1206 01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:40,814 I also searched on Wikipedia... 1207 01:35:40,860 --> 01:35:44,143 Sarah Bernhardt has interpreted it at 30 years. So, well, why not? 1208 01:35:45,152 --> 01:35:50,652 - You took a look at the e-book of your book? - Why, does it exist? - Sure. 1209 01:35:50,693 --> 01:35:54,356 - It's not going wrong. - Not bad... 1210 01:35:54,402 --> 01:35:57,768 Not bad for being contemporary literature. 1211 01:35:57,818 --> 01:36:02,276 - Do you want a coffee? - Yes thanks. Even sugar, thanks. 1212 01:36:04,027 --> 01:36:06,942 Thank you. What do you mean exactly? 1213 01:36:06,985 --> 01:36:10,850 Well, you know, what works best in e-books... 1214 01:36:10,902 --> 01:36:15,892 ...especially thrillers and the pink novels, Nora Roberts style. 1215 01:36:15,943 --> 01:36:20,401 - Who, Nora Roberts?! - Yes. - Who is Nora Roberts? 1216 01:36:20,443 --> 01:36:24,652 It has only sold more than 100 million of books and is translated into 26 languages. 1217 01:36:24,693 --> 01:36:28,226 - Ah, sorry. - Objectively, it is rather cheap literature. 1218 01:36:28,277 --> 01:36:32,651 - So why do you sell too many e-books? - It mainly depends on the price. 1219 01:36:32,902 --> 01:36:36,731 For example, there is "End Point" which costs 13.99 euros... 1220 01:36:36,777 --> 01:36:41,400 ...and then there's Nora Roberts which is sold for 3.99 euros. 1221 01:36:41,443 --> 01:36:43,933 - It's essentially this. - Clear. 1222 01:36:43,985 --> 01:36:47,932 By chance you are thinking of doing an audio book of "Punto finale"? 1223 01:36:47,985 --> 01:36:51,268 Yes, I'm thinking, since sales are quite good. 1224 01:36:51,318 --> 01:36:54,767 - But it will cost to make an audio book. - Yes, right. 1225 01:36:54,818 --> 01:36:58,267 - We proposed it to Juliette Binoche. - Really? - Yup. 1226 01:36:58,318 --> 01:37:02,811 - Do you think he will accept? - I do not know. He hasn't replied yet. 1227 01:37:02,860 --> 01:37:07,353 - Selena contacted you. - Maybe I could write you a few lines. 1228 01:37:07,402 --> 01:37:12,356 - I mean, if you... - Eh? - If you have his mail... 1229 01:37:12,402 --> 01:37:17,107 No, it's reserved. If you want, I can give you the number of his agent. 1230 01:37:17,152 --> 01:37:18,978 All right. Just to motivate it. 1231 01:37:20,193 --> 01:37:23,276 Over there, see? That whole area is pristine. 1232 01:37:23,318 --> 01:37:26,483 Coming I was paying attention, it's lucky for you. 1233 01:37:26,527 --> 01:37:28,649 Who knows how long it will last. 1234 01:37:29,527 --> 01:37:33,438 I've read your name in the newspapers lately. 1235 01:37:33,485 --> 01:37:36,816 - What newspapers? - On the "Investing" website. 1236 01:37:36,860 --> 01:37:43,273 - Do you have a Google alert for my name? - Why? - Do you usually read "Investing"? 1237 01:37:43,318 --> 01:37:48,439 No, but there are persistent rumors about the fact that Marc-Antoine Rouvel wants to sell. 1238 01:37:48,485 --> 01:37:53,060 - It is no longer topical. - And you're about to leave. 1239 01:37:53,193 --> 01:37:58,646 - They are "fake news". Why are you interested? - Yes, I'm interested enough. 1240 01:37:58,693 --> 01:38:02,818 - He had to sell to Dehoux, or to the Dehoux group. - Dehoux. 1241 01:38:02,860 --> 01:38:06,523 - He is a disreputable character. - I agree with you. 1242 01:38:06,568 --> 01:38:08,441 But it was all a lie. 1243 01:38:08,485 --> 01:38:12,266 Dehoux was trying to close a great acquisition... 1244 01:38:12,318 --> 01:38:17,060 ...an Italian information site who wanted to launch a French edition. 1245 01:38:17,110 --> 01:38:22,977 The Vertheuil Editions they were just a diversion. Follow me? 1246 01:38:23,027 --> 01:38:27,934 Honestly it seems to me quite smoky, but I understood the general idea. 1247 01:38:27,985 --> 01:38:31,482 In short, he made fun of Marc-Antoine, never wanted to buy. 1248 01:38:31,527 --> 01:38:38,484 He wanted the market to think he would bought and in the meantime he concluded the deal. 1249 01:38:38,527 --> 01:38:44,856 - So he keeps you. - Yes, he keeps me. In short, it no longer sells. 1250 01:38:47,777 --> 01:38:50,148 Are you working on something? 1251 01:38:51,402 --> 01:38:59,106 - I don't feel like talking about it much. - But are you going? - Yes, go ahead, very well. 1252 01:39:01,485 --> 01:39:05,101 - Don't you want to tell me anything else? - No. - No. 1253 01:39:09,277 --> 01:39:13,188 - Careful! - We are! We're back! 1254 01:39:13,943 --> 01:39:17,108 - Hey, champion! - Pope! 1255 01:39:19,735 --> 01:39:24,607 - How are you? Did you have fun? - Yes. - What did you do? - Martin! 1256 01:39:24,652 --> 01:39:30,068 - Did you take a bath? - No, bye! It went well? - Look what I found! 1257 01:39:30,110 --> 01:39:34,022 - But they are so many! - How many do you have Do we put them in a dish? 1258 01:39:34,068 --> 01:39:40,433 - Do you know what's there now? - No, the nap no! - Then you want to eat a fish! 1259 01:39:40,485 --> 01:39:43,816 - A huge fish is waiting for you! - I eat fish too! I got one! 1260 01:39:43,860 --> 01:39:46,527 Leave me, dad! 1261 01:40:06,360 --> 01:40:08,684 Yes, I have to go out early enough. 1262 01:40:26,235 --> 01:40:28,807 - What's up? - Nothing, it's to thank you. 1263 01:40:28,860 --> 01:40:32,725 - About what? - You were rather diplomatic. 1264 01:40:32,777 --> 01:40:35,313 Diplomatic with respect to what? 1265 01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:41,938 I prefer Selena not to know me I'm back to writing. I was afraid you would run away. 1266 01:40:41,985 --> 01:40:47,437 - Selena doesn't know what's in your book? - No, but it is a sort of fictional autobiography... 1267 01:40:47,485 --> 01:40:51,065 - It's Selena but it's not Selena. - Leonard, you're going to be in trouble. 1268 01:40:51,110 --> 01:40:56,562 Yes, but I'm unable to write anything else. I really can't. I can not do it. 1269 01:41:00,652 --> 01:41:03,224 There is one thing I wanted to tell you. 1270 01:41:04,402 --> 01:41:06,642 I kept it from you. 1271 01:41:06,693 --> 01:41:10,274 - Do you have a story? - But no! - Is there another? - No! 1272 01:41:10,318 --> 01:41:12,642 I don't know then. 1273 01:41:16,027 --> 01:41:21,397 - I'm pregnant. - Pregnant ...? -Pregnant. 1274 01:41:23,110 --> 01:41:26,358 No, because actually I was thinking... 1275 01:41:26,402 --> 01:41:28,974 - The gynecologist had said that not we are compatible. -Instead it seems so. 1276 01:41:31,152 --> 01:41:36,485 - But you checked that everything goes... - Yes, I did ultrasounds, samples. 1277 01:41:36,527 --> 01:41:41,232 - He's fine, it's normal. - "He"? You said "he". 1278 01:41:41,568 --> 01:41:44,651 - Is he a boy? - No. - Yes, you know. - I asked not to know. I do not want to. 1279 01:41:46,943 --> 01:41:50,310 Seriously, I don't want to. 1280 01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:56,891 - How long? - Three months. - Three months? - I wanted to be sure before I told you about it. 1281 01:41:58,527 --> 01:42:04,192 Well, actually we don't have a very active sex life. 1282 01:42:04,235 --> 01:42:09,474 - No, in recent times no. - No, I'd say nothing crazy. - No not much. 1283 01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:12,731 But just once. 1284 01:42:15,193 --> 01:42:19,852 When we tried procreation assisted did not work. 1285 01:42:19,902 --> 01:42:26,398 - That's like the lottery. - Yes, but it is however, a lottery that did not work. 1286 01:42:26,443 --> 01:42:29,608 - Yes, so... - Yes, it's true. - So it's a miracle. 1287 01:42:29,652 --> 01:42:34,440 No, the miracle is something that does not exist. This is real. 1288 01:42:38,402 --> 01:42:40,808 Yes, it's real. 1289 01:42:43,152 --> 01:42:44,859 You are happy? 1290 01:42:47,443 --> 01:42:52,777 Well, I feel obliged to do this to answer honestly. 1291 01:42:57,943 --> 01:43:00,065 Yup. 1292 01:43:09,818 --> 01:43:16,065 - Wait, I'm sorry... But the baby is it more here or here? Or in the middle? - It's more... 1293 01:43:16,110 --> 01:43:20,057 I don't know, I think here, more or less. But it's still very small. 1294 01:43:22,235 --> 01:43:26,277 - Small how much? - It will be the size of a lentil. 1295 01:43:26,318 --> 01:43:31,522 - A lentil even? - Or a bean? - It's like a bean. 124481

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