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ANNE-LAURE: You don't tell yourself
you're going to be an artist.
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It's something that lives in us,
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that we don't understand right away
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and as we grow up,
as we come to analyze things,
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as we experiment and meet people,
as we see things,
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we gradually assume it.
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I've always been inhabited
by things that perhaps
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were stronger than me,
so I didn't understand them much
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so it could lead to feeling
a bit out of place sometimes.
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I think an artist is someone
who lives through expression.
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So I think that...
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I consider myself an artist from the moment
I find a way to express what I want to say
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and to share my world.
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This is a special place, I used to
live in this house right there.
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And I spent my weekends learning
how to windsurf in this bay.
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And to come back here after 18 years
around the world by boat, it’s pretty...
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Incredible because I never thought I'd come back
and in the end, like every good Breton,
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there's a legend that says the Breton always comes
home and that's exactly what's happening here,
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and I'd never have believed it.
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I think it's the cycle of life that does that,
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you come back to your roots with a new
energy and a desire to create
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in your territory.
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ANNE-LAURE: If we hadn’t found each other here,
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if we hadn’t both shared this craving,
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and it wasn’t intellectualized at the beginning,
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it was really a desire to create something together.
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rather than a child,
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it became obvious to us that it should be through art.
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If you ask me ‘What is Human Soul?’
I would say that
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Human Soul is...
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it is born with a question.
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and the question is ‘Who are you?’
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ANNE-LAURE: Human Soul is a search for differences,
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it is really exploring what a person is
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deep down within themselves.
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It’s this encounter with others that really
inspires us with Anne-Laure because
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it’s very intimate to ask someone who they are,
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it is a question that is rarely asked in the end
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and when you ask this question
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the answer is often surprising.
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The start of my trip around the world in 2004,
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I left after graduating from the Beaux Arts in
Toulouse, I set off around the world in 2004,
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but to continue my artistic work, well I
accumulated information by making notebooks,
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sketchbooks, little notebooks. Here, for
example, is a little notebook that goes back
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a year, almost to the day, with the departure
from Brest to Senegal in the first year.
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It was a source of information that enabled me
to work on other things afterwards.
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My son was born in Colombia because we had to
cross Panama, so normally you have to wait
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two or three weeks to get through the canal.
And then it was a two-month wait.
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So rather than wait the full two months, we went
back to the Kuna Indians where we'd been before,
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but we stayed with them for several
months, as my partner was pregnant at the time.
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So we lived with the Kuna Indians for a very
long time, well six months before the baby
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and four months after the baby. So here
it's interesting because we had time,
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I would sit on the beaches, making
watercolor drawings, I'd recover a little of,
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like it’s often done for notebooks, a little bit of
materials. There are words lying around,
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there’s a bit of drawing, watercolor, things like that.
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But I really wanted to get out of the travel notebook,
it wasn't at all what I wanted to do.
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ANNE-LAURE: For me, the thing I feel the most
comfortable with is collage.
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Ever since I was very young, I've always
wanted to collect things.
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As soon as I see images I like, I rip them
out of the magazines and pick them up
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and I collect them and keep them. Sometimes I
even forget them and then I have moments
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when I want to assemble these images
together and from there create series.
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In this series there was always something very...
A duality between two worlds, and it was really
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a whole period that was very healing for me,
because I was going through a difficult
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period in my life, with a big break-up and a
big questioning of a lot of things came
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through this quest, all the weeks of creation
and collages, something was happening that
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was moving me forward.
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I met up with Anne-Laure, who was also at the
Beaux-Arts with me, and she was into collage.
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She would start from the center
to develop a visual,
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I'd start from the page and work
my way back to the center
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and the two of us, with the
intersection of our worlds,
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moved more into the pure collage she uses, but
we've kept some of the depth of the message
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within the encounters. In the villages, for example,
there were lots of people and lots to talk about.
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So in the work we're doing with
Human Soul, we're also reassembling,
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recontextualizing a lot because it allows us
to imprint ourselves on the page
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and at the same time have the depth to tell
where we are and who we are.
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With Michel, all of a sudden, everything was
completely embodied. It was people we met,
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it was very lively, very very real. And it was
no longer a fantasy or an idea,
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It wasn't a concept, it was real life. And it
was a wonderful combination to create these
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two universes and, in one fell swoop, to drop
the page and have the world open up to us
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two universes and, in one fell swoop, to drop
the page and have the world open up to us
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with a territory that was somewhat unlimited,
in which we could inscribe ourselves.
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Hi!
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Thank you.
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I am very happy!
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Why?
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While I am working
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because this is the first time that a yacht comes here
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so I am very happy!
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Thank you!
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This is jelly
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you can make jelly with this
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It comes from here!
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This is very good, it’s a seaweed
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in Filipino we call this Tambalang
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My wife, is my fish
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And the lobster is your husband?
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Yes!
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This is the fire to cook the rice.
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This is how we cook
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on the fire.
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this is how the Filipinos cook.
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You burn the wood
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then you put the pail and then your rice.
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You see?
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ANNE-LAURE:
Human Soul began with Nelson, a Filipino
fisherman we met on a remote stretch of sand.
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He was hyper-resilient
because typhoons every
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two years destroyed part of his house
and yet he would rebuild.
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He was always smiling and
he had a real flair for ingenuity.
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So we really created
a friendly relationship with him.
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That was our first portrait.
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That’s my experience.
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Three our four typhoons came by.
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I can’t predict my life
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I can’t predict my life.
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I dream when I say,
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if my house is destroyed.
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I just go somewhere else.
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God’s helping me,
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so that my house is not destroyed.
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We came across some old posts
on an isolated sandbar.
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We asked him what this old ruin was
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and Nelson told us it was his old house
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So it became an obvious choice. In fact,
this is where we'll be doing Nelson’s portrait.
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ANNE-LAURE: And that’s how we came up
with the idea of making
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a collage of his portrait,
and then to change its scale
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from this small collage to a very large
print at the scale of the landscape
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that the person we had met lived in.
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To tell the story of this resilient man,
we're going to bring him back to these ruins,
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to the ruins of his old home
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When you begin a process of sociological or
ethnological interest in others, it's a very virtuous spiral,
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because you see everyone's difference,
but at the same time
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you feed off it, you don't see it as a handicap.
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We had removed his face, we had put
parts of his habitat on his back.
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We tried to tell the story of Nelson
as we saw him.
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What we can hope is that when people see this,
they'll say to themselves:
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I'm going to take an interest in my neighbour,
in the guy across the street,
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or at the supermarket.
I'm not saying that they weren't interested before
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I'm just saying that
they might be interested in a different way.
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ANNE-LAURE: Above all, we realized
that with this way of doing things, this process,
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we were making collages and installations,
but it was also about relationships.
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And that's what was interesting for us,
to create a bond.
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ANNE-LAURE: Yes, it's your flowers!
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The red ones?
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ANNE-LAURE: Yeah!
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Those are the seaweeds.
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Those are the seaweeds.
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The seaweeds, yes.
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The seaweeds over there, look!
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What else do you see? Do you see your boat?
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Ah, this one?
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Very well.
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We were very happy to see that he was
happy that we were interested in him.
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We were happy to see that he understood
what we were doing.
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and that became the beginning of Human Soul, f
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and that became the beginning of Human Soul,
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because we thought, this is great,
we're going to be able to use this model,
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maybe on our next stopover. And that's where
we came up with this model of collage,
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construction, deconstruction and confrontation.
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And then we asked ourselves if we could arrive
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with something like a present. So this
present, it's an artistic present,
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will it create the same relationships of
shared curiosity that could exist with children?
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When you arrive in a village with
children, it inevitably creates a bond.
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Here, it's the artwork that creates the bond.
So we tried it with the Badjos,
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who are a very particular ethnic group.
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They are sea gypsies.
They have absolutely no status,
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they have no passports, they have no land, they
are not recognized in the villages,
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They are a very special ethnic group,
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ANNE-LAURE: The day we unrolled the canvas
at the foot of their boat,
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one of the women with whom we felt most at ease,
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put her baby in my arms.
And all of a sudden, a bond was created.
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I had the baby in my arms and she was laughing,
discovering fragments of themselves.
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And there it was. There was an appropriation of the
canvas, a contact, an exchange and something
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that is effectively of the order of an encounter.
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It was an awesome dude, unbelievable.
He'd take something simple and turn it
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into something complicated...
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Darling we have something on our plants.
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Little animals?
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Small dots, What is it?
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Probably because...
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Look.
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They look like...
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do you think they are little insect babies?
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Well, there's a chance.
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Ah shit.
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We have to treat it.
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We have to go to...
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We have to go to Jardiland!
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What's going on?
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ANNE-LAURE: I’m doing your hair.
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The family home, the original house,
where Michel grew up,
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yes, it was a bit... not abandoned,
but nobody lived there for a long time
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and when we came back and we
started to do this Human Soul project
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and to come back to Brittany, to this
house, we started to live in all the spaces
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and this swimming pool, with its volume
and dimensions, was initially used as a
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workshop to cut out
our large collages
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and we began to appropriate this space,
which was lying fallow.
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As we co-created in this
space and thought about the interior,
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we said to ourselves, this space is crazy and it's
silly to keep it to ourselves. We can use it
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to make our own creations, but we also want
to invite other artists to come
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and experiment with things.
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And what we found so beautiful
in this story was to share,
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to share this place, to share this space.
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So wait, maybe I'll stop it from slipping
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It still has the sand...
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ANNE-LAURE: From Borneo.
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Here we gain some space.
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ANNE-LAURE: The funny thing is that it’s back in...
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In the water. He's wet.
He's wet like on the beach.
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ANNE-LAURE: Yeah.
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It's quite extraordinary to have this place
that can host the Badjaos again
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and to be able to show the public the exhibition
almost as if they were there,
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because it's going to be quite immersive.
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There will be sound,
there will be videos, there will be this canvas
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with water and the vibration of water.
So I think we'll manage to create something
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quite immersive that will make you feel a bit
like you're with the Badjaos.
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The reason we're embarking on this adventure
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is that we've found
a whole host of people
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who want to follow us in this adventure.
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Already here on site, we've
done a first exhibition with the ZAD.
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Following this exhibition, some of the
artists we've befriended a little more
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who follow us and encourage us and help us
experiment, will be coming to exhibit here.
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And interestingly, it's pretty much the same
thing. It's like living on a boat: you have
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to accept movement and uncertainty. And I
think we're very, very used to uncertainty.
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Now it's a question of how we're going to
reinvent ourselves, how we're going to build
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a new universe with this space, this place,
this jewel box that is, that is divine.
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ANNE-LAURE:
Here I remember this desire to try
and occupy the page completely,
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but there were things
that I found interesting, you know.
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There was also this structure on the island
where they would go to land.
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It was way more more complex and it's
true that we simplified it afterwards,
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for the installation,
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the final installation.
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And then we move over to the Tagbanuas,
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where what amused us was that, as they
were divers, we played with fins and masks
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where what amused us was that, as they
were divers, we played with fins and masks
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The Tagbanuas are an ethnic group who live in
the south of Coron, in the north of Palawan.
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They have been displaced from the northern
Philippines and have been given
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a magnificent island called Coron.
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There was an area where,
during the dry season
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you can't go by boat because it's windy and not
conducive to entering the bay.
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We had been talking about it for years.
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Then one day, we were lucky enough
to have the wind turn,
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it was beginning to be the rainy season.
And on the way into the bay, we saw some mazes,
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an underwater maze of perspective lines in every
direction, and we thought wow, this is so beautiful.
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ANNE-LAURE: It was very graphic, visually...
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We later learned that it was an ancestral
knowledge, where they tie little bits of seaweed
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to grow and then harvest them.
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It was while we were tangled with these lines
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that we came up with the idea of using
them as a picture rail.
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For the duration of an installation,
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we wanted to experiment something.
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The Tagbanuas, like the Bajaos, have a
reputation for strong apnea.
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They’re often said to have a third lung,
since they spend so much time underwater
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to harvest the seaweed or to get shellfish.
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It was symbolically powerful to
put their portraits back underwater.
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ANNE-LAURE: Holy cow!
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ANNE-LAURE: Wow!
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It's your house!
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Your name? I’m Anne-Lo.
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Michel.
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Leydon.
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Nice to meet you Leydon.
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ANNE-LAURE: Nice to meet you.
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House?
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House yeah.
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This is a portrait.
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A painting.
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A painting.
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ANNE-LAURE:
We played with the scale and the engine
because, in fact, when we first met him,
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he was struggling with an engine and they spent
days repairing it, so we made it so big,
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because it really took up a lot of his
time, this old man.
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He was carrying the engine on his back. We saw the
moment they managed to turn it back on
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and they were very happy.
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It was really quite an adventure.
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It was a bit like they were
shipwrecked on a beach,
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trying to make their way out
with this engine.
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ANNE-LAURE:
That’s why we managed to spend
a little time with them.
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Because of the engine.
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ANNE-LAURE:
We want to tell the story of all these
different states of being in the world,
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without embellishing them, just
showing them as they are.
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It’s a kind of opening that's not
idealistic. It's not, it's just opening up
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the field of what another way of being
than our own can be.
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Leydon, its Leydon!
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That’s the sound of water,
that’s not the sound of the video.
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Obviously!
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Obviously, water !
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Everything’s connected.
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We’re not even telling you her name is ‘Lo’.
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It’s not bad this shot.
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I can still see myself. Look, I'm
blowing his regulator out to empty it.
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You see, all these rushes are going to
look great in the pool.
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What I found extraordinary
was that they had the curiosity
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to dive in and see what was going on
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and that the encounter took place underwater.
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ANNE-LAURE: No, because you wanted to contour it
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No, I know, but what I meant is
that you had to study the model.
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Then we would have contoured it.
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The interesting thing is...
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But this saves time, look.
There I’ll give you Mohammed contoured.
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I didn't say it was wrong, I agreed with you.
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We always agree in the end.
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So we always agree in the end. It's perfect.
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In the end, the good guys always win.
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But what's certain is
that I don't think we...
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I don't think we ever got
to the end of a process
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where the other
didn't agree with the realization.
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Because I think the frustration
would be too great.
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You'd hear it every day.
But I told you no, but no, but no, but no.
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And even then, we can't do it, we both have
to be satisfied with the result.
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ANNE-LAURE: So
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So then...
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The Cité de Refuge is the emblematic
building of the Salvation Army in France,
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since the building was built by a renowned
architect, Le Corbusier, with a very special...
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ANNE-LAURE: With incredibly beautiful architecture.
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It was in a magnificent setting, and at the
same time, it was as if all the poverty
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in the world at a given moment was
gathered in this marvelous setting
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and it was very dissonant, very disturbing.
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That's why we wanted to continue telling
the story of this Human's Soul project,
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but rather than being at
the end of the world,
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to tell it here in our society,
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to precisely show this
discrepancy in our society.
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The first meeting was a beautiful story.
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I'm a member of
a group for women at the Salvation Army.
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We had been allocated a room
by the management
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and I found these two there setting up.
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I called out to them and said: wait a minute,
you're not allowed to be here
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because this belongs to me,
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this room belongs to us.
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They were a bit surprised
so I said: no, calm down, try to explain.
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And when they said: no, it was
the management that sent us,
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I replied that I would go and
see the management myself
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because you have no right to be there.
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We looked at each other thinking:
well, we’re here trying to establish contact
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and suddenly we were already in a trap.
And there we were...
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So we...
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ANNE-LAURE: So we got kicked out, that was it.
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We got kicked out, apologized, got our stuff
went downstairs to the lobby,
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A huge magnificent lobby with
great volumes, very Le Corbusier.
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Very impressive.
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Truly impressive, imposing and
where everything echoed.
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And finally, it was a gift that Flora made us.
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The first time I met Michel and Anne-Laure
was over a game of dominoes.
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They explained a little about what they were
all about. That they had traveled a lot
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with their boat and all that, and that
they made art. And then I thought, why not
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try a new activity, a new way
of using my ten fingers.
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ANNE-LAURE:
The aim of this project was really to show
that the people who we featured in Human Soul
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at the beginning in the Philippines, in Borneo
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and who everyone found so exotic - saying:
wow they are so beautiful,
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we wanted to show that if you
took them out of their context
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and they found themselves in our society
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all of the sudden they would be stigmatized
and confined to the fringes of our society.
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It is in fact so difficult to
find our place in this society
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and it's often very complicated
to see the light.
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In this artistic project we are
for the most part surrounded
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by sensitive, beautiful people.
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Whatever people say,
whatever they may think.
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My name is Hedi,
I've been in France for 20 years now.
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I'm from Tunisia.
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I still have problems with
my residency papers.
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I've submitted a file
to the police department.
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They replied by saying
I have to be deported.
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I've submitted an appeal.
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I went to court.
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I'm waiting for the answer.
Haven't gotten it yet. But here I am.
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I've just had three strokes, you can't see that
a pulmonary embolism, you can't see it.
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I've spent months in a coma,
you can't see it.
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I've been hemiplegic on my left side,
it doesn't show.
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I was in a wheelchair, I had tubes,
I had diapers and here I am today.
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I wasn't able to lift my foot before.
Things are much better now.
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There are other people here
who also have stories
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and this collage made it possible
during the cutting process,
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for some of the residents get
to know each other.
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Because, while cutting things out
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you realise “Hey so you did this”, “you did sport”
“he made this”, there were
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They were those moments of
dialogue between us
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that united us.
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I have known many people who
have had difficulties.
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Sometimes we think we
have it harder than others,
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until we meet people who have
had more than we did.
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We had the opportunity to meet all the
inhabitants of Cité Refuge,
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both those who worked there
and those who lived there
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and as the journey progressed,
we managed to make
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one collage, two collages, three collages.
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We had recorded
all these clips of voices, these phrases
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and we thought to ourselves
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that people always say beautiful things
without realizing it.
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So we made a sound collage
of all these recordings,
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which we played back in a large room at Cité
Refuge, with video installations retracing
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the journey we had made
with the people there.
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ANNE-LAURE: What we like is small and big
at the same time
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that change of scale.
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We liked the idea of saying: now
we're going to take these little collages
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and we're going to make you get out
of the Cité de Refuge
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because it was during COVID lockdown.
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We were fascinated by Le Corbusier's architecture
where light is hyper-important
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and there are huge glass blocks
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that we had the idea
of transforming into screens.
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ANNE-LAURE:
It was their portrait radiating through
the walls. The walls became porous
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and they all escaped for a little while
through the windows.
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It allows us to get together and talk to
people from the outside too.
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Show them that even if we're just passing
through the Cité de Refuge,
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that we can make art out of
what we've been through in life,
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that it's not because you
don't have money or you're homeless,
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that you don't know how to do anything.
We know how to show
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what we can do with our values.
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It's taking shape
and it really defines us well.
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Here you really see yourself
in your own right
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and that's quite the impression,
it's really real
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This is really...
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It’s...
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It's magnificent !
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I'm at a loss for words because
it's really, really beautiful.
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This really showed
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that we weren't just there to do a little
workshop and stay inside the building.
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Already we were getting them
outside of their home.
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And then we had another ambition.
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It was the springtime when we said OK,
you've been on the walls of your home,
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now, we're going to put you back on the street,
but not in a small way.
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We're going to make huge collages
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and stick them all over the rue du Chevaleret.
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That became the big street art campaign.
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In life we need hope.
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When you live, you can't get discouraged
and I think I'm the result of that.
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Because if I'd let myself go
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I wouldn't be alive today.
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I couldn't have worked
or today be stuck on a wall,
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a giant wall like that which is behind me.
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When I saw it finished the tears really flowed,
they were tears of joy!
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It's true that this is my story,
it encompasses a lot of who I am.
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And this collage
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was done according to my story
so I've expressed myself.
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I'm expressing myself here.
When I see that, I see myself.
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I see Flore in her totality.
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ANNE-LAURE:
Bring it to me, I just want to see
if I can get a cutter.
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No, that's much too big.
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The little one.
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It’s not too big.
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Yes it is. You've seen what we have to cut,
I think it'll be much better.
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It's O.K. I'll take those scissors.
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ANNE-LAURE: Olivier we met him
almost two years ago.
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The thing we were sensitive to, in fact, was
that in the same way, we started Human Soul
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and we did Nelson,
we were taken with his resilience
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and how well he resisted so well
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to the challenges of life.
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He also approached things
with a great deal of philosophy,
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a sense of perspective that was a strength.
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Olivier was a successful entrepreneur and suddenly,
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when you find out you have an illness, the
first thing you do is shut up.
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Otherwise your company could go under
because no one will follow you.
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And he did just the opposite.
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He took part in this podcast where we
were blown away because,
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he lay himself bare.
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ANNE-LAURE: So we had just taken this photo...
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It’s Olivier who took the photo.
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ANNE-LAURE:
It was Olivier who took the photo of the
entire “promotion” of that year
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of the Planches Contact Photography Festival.
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So it's all the artists from the
foundation. It's a great team.
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00:38:22,439 --> 00:38:23,599
And then we said to him:
460
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,999
Olivier, we want to take a photo of you too.
461
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,279
So he played along and the constraint
462
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:33,719
was to make him stand up and then,
he settled into that position.
463
00:38:33,720 --> 00:38:40,878
I like it a lot. I really like this photo because he
really played along, he put all his energy into it.
464
00:38:40,879 --> 00:38:46,560
He stood up, he steadied himself and
then, little by little, Michel let him go.
465
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,400
And then, spontaneously,
466
00:38:50,319 --> 00:38:51,839
he took his pose.
467
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:59,478
And what we find extraordinary is that his
posture is one of open arms, truly open hands
468
00:38:59,479 --> 00:39:03,399
and actually looking up to the heavens.
469
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:04,559
As if he'd predicted it. I mean, I don't
know, it lasted two minutes. I said to him:
470
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,638
As if he'd predicted it. I mean, I don't
know, it lasted two minutes. I said to him:
471
00:39:06,639 --> 00:39:08,679
As if he'd predicted it. I mean, I don't
know, it lasted two minutes. I said to him:
472
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:14,118
Olivier, here, I think you're the epitome of
what we want to represent.
473
00:39:14,119 --> 00:39:15,878
It's the ultimate resilience.
474
00:39:15,879 --> 00:39:19,719
to be able to reinvent yourself,
and on top developing new processes like this,
475
00:39:19,720 --> 00:39:20,999
is incredible.
476
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:25,438
And there, in his pose, there's a
real form of hope and at the same time...
477
00:39:25,439 --> 00:39:31,758
I don't know, when you say it's Christ-like,
it's true that you want to ask yourself:
478
00:39:31,759 --> 00:39:33,239
What is he looking at?
479
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:46,078
In the end, the Human Soul
project is always about this
480
00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:49,280
collage of life, this construction
and deconstruction.
481
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,438
We like to say that we all
have shocks in our lives,
482
00:39:53,439 --> 00:39:55,518
more or less violent ones
that accumulate
483
00:39:55,519 --> 00:40:00,758
Sometimes you can get through it,
and then sometimes it all falls apart.
484
00:40:00,759 --> 00:40:06,838
We can imagine that for Olivier, in his relationship
with his illness, his whole world collapsed.
485
00:40:06,839 --> 00:40:13,360
and what was really striking was
the extent to which he was able to...
486
00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:16,560
To build something else out of his past.
487
00:40:23,879 --> 00:40:29,518
Michel and Anne-Laure's
Human Soul project
488
00:40:29,519 --> 00:40:30,958
is very close to our hearts,
489
00:40:30,959 --> 00:40:37,799
because Olivier is an ambassador for
so many good intentions,
490
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:44,758
with Photo for Food, his foundation which
works against precariousness in France,
491
00:40:44,759 --> 00:40:52,238
but he's also raising funds for the Brain
Institute, because he himself was diagnosed
492
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:59,518
with an incurable disease - ALS, also known
as Charcot's disease or Stephen Hawkins’ disease,
493
00:40:59,519 --> 00:41:03,360
and he was told that
he had three years to live.
494
00:41:12,839 --> 00:41:14,839
It's Le Havre on the other side.
495
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,199
It could look great in the shot.
496
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,038
ANNE-LAURE:
In fact, it's going to be very urban,
497
00:41:20,039 --> 00:41:22,638
there will be a contrast
between the beach and...
498
00:41:22,639 --> 00:41:25,959
I wonder if we'll be able to see it.
But it would be nice to be able to see it.
499
00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:37,920
Wait, I'll put it on your back.
500
00:41:38,959 --> 00:41:39,959
I got it.
501
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:41,599
ANNE-LAURE: You’re OK?
502
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:42,199
It's OK.
503
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:43,638
ANNE-LAURE: Careful, it’s gonna slide.
504
00:41:43,639 --> 00:41:44,719
No, no, we’re OK.
505
00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:45,318
ANNE-LAURE: Are you sure?
506
00:41:45,319 --> 00:41:46,200
Yeah.
507
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,838
As with Olivier Goy project,
508
00:42:12,839 --> 00:42:16,838
the first thing that grabs me
in Human Soul is the heart.
509
00:42:16,839 --> 00:42:19,399
It’s the energy that
comes out of Human Soul.
510
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,438
The way they integrate the landscape
511
00:42:23,439 --> 00:42:27,758
with their collages,
in such a dreamlike form,
512
00:42:27,759 --> 00:42:30,758
talking about issues that
are important to us today,
513
00:42:30,759 --> 00:42:34,679
like ecology and our
footprint in the world,
514
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:40,959
in such a poetic way, I think
they're on the right track.
515
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:22,359
I’d like to remember that I'm joining a gallery of fighters.
516
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:26,800
it’s an honor to be in this beautiful gallery
of people proudly wearing their scars.
517
00:43:27,720 --> 00:43:29,759
Illness galvanizes me.
518
00:43:30,119 --> 00:43:33,239
It opened my eyes to the value of life
and of the present moment.
519
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,518
Not being afraid of death.
520
00:43:35,519 --> 00:43:39,479
means enjoying life to the full.
Taking advantage.
521
00:43:40,159 --> 00:43:43,800
Without regretting yesterday,
without fearing tomorrow.
522
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,119
Fully being alive.
523
00:44:37,119 --> 00:44:40,199
How are you?
It's a pleasure to see you
524
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:40,958
We’re back!
525
00:44:40,959 --> 00:44:42,079
Yes!
526
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,519
How are you?
Sorry, we're being filmed.
527
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,799
We're back with a vengeance, we want to
create an installation on the roof.
528
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,359
Oh yes, they told us about it earlier,
Malik came by.
529
00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:00,518
We're going to cut, cut, cut!
530
00:45:00,519 --> 00:45:05,438
and bravo for everything you did here...
531
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:10,759
How are you? All good?
532
00:45:11,639 --> 00:45:12,680
Hi there! Hi there!
533
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:14,000
ANNE-LAURE: How are you?
534
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,400
Hi, there. How are you? That's Michel...
535
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,599
ANNE-LAURE: Hi there! Hello!
This is Denis and Mr Diallo...
536
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:22,479
I'm Michel.
537
00:45:24,039 --> 00:45:25,518
And Mr Dominguez.
538
00:45:25,519 --> 00:45:28,559
The funny thing is that
this project on the roof
539
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:32,838
was the very first project we proposed
to start this adventure
540
00:45:32,839 --> 00:45:34,599
and finally, after three years
541
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:39,279
of projects and adventures, we're ending on a
high note with this idea that we had at the start
542
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:44,758
where we really wanted to put portraits on
the roof and be able to see you from the sky.
543
00:45:44,759 --> 00:45:48,118
In fact, the idea is that each time we asked
people to tell us about themselves, we created
544
00:45:48,119 --> 00:45:51,038
their portrait in the form of a collage.
Maybe Malik showed you some of these.
545
00:45:51,039 --> 00:45:53,999
Afterwards, from these small collages,
546
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,919
we make large collages and
recontextualize them in the environment,
547
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:02,838
in which people live. It's our way of
marking this territory, this piece of land.
548
00:46:02,839 --> 00:46:07,359
So we don't have a blank page, our blank page
is a piece of territory seen from the sky.
549
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:13,638
In this case, the site of the Cité de Refuge and
from the sky we will be taking a photo
550
00:46:13,639 --> 00:46:18,720
of our XXL installation that will show
your place in this city.
551
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,999
Will you come with me, gentlemen
and we'll go get the collages.
552
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:48,839
Oh! Zaïnabou!
553
00:46:52,519 --> 00:46:55,239
It's been a long time.
554
00:46:56,839 --> 00:46:58,559
You got your papers?
555
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,079
Yes, that was settled - thank you.
556
00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:05,400
Wait, that's amazing news !
557
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:11,359
I have the Carte Vitale, that's the
driver’s license.
558
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,279
This is my ID.
559
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:17,039
This is ID of my home country
and the Pass Navigo.
560
00:47:18,119 --> 00:47:23,719
Frankly, it's life-changing. I have all the cards now
I'm just waiting for work.
561
00:47:23,720 --> 00:47:26,719
Thanks to God first of all,
the good Lord who sees all
562
00:47:26,720 --> 00:47:29,878
and to the Cité de Refuge of course
563
00:47:29,879 --> 00:47:35,838
and being here again makes me happy
we're back to make the posters and stuff,
564
00:47:35,839 --> 00:47:38,280
We're here to help Anne-Laure and Michel.
565
00:47:41,839 --> 00:47:44,758
The more time passes, the happier we are
to continue the adventure.
566
00:47:44,759 --> 00:47:47,238
They put a lot of joy in here, so...
567
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:51,559
So it's really important. It was
really important to take a little bit of people's souls,
568
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:56,318
to highlight them and also to
show that they exist
569
00:47:56,319 --> 00:47:58,878
All of this experience has been really great
In fact, a lot people participated.
570
00:47:58,879 --> 00:48:01,359
I think it's something
that was very successful.
571
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,838
Everyone today
is asking about them.
572
00:48:04,839 --> 00:48:07,600
They really left a mark, an important
imprint on the people here
573
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,239
ANNE-LAURE:
We should have brought knee-pads.
574
00:48:18,119 --> 00:48:19,920
It warms the heart to be here.
575
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:25,799
It's heartwarming because you always meet new
people and here, we have an incredible team.
576
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:30,638
We didn't know each other this morning and
here we are and they've really got
577
00:48:30,639 --> 00:48:35,999
a good grasp of the project. We're super
efficient and it's great, it's a really good time,
578
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,478
it's really pleasant
579
00:48:38,479 --> 00:48:39,118
It's cool
580
00:48:39,119 --> 00:48:41,118
I’m so happy everyone is here
581
00:48:41,119 --> 00:48:44,999
It's about conviviality and getting
to know each other.
582
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,119
I love meeting new people.
583
00:49:02,119 --> 00:49:03,439
Malik, we’re gonna do this one.
584
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,000
We’re over here.
585
00:49:18,159 --> 00:49:22,559
ANNE-LAURE: It’s all good, no?
I think you're on top of things, Mr Diallo.
586
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,118
Yeah, you got it?
587
00:49:24,119 --> 00:49:25,199
Yes, I'm good.
588
00:49:26,319 --> 00:49:33,878
It's the conclusion of an adventure
with the residents of Cité de Refuge
589
00:49:33,879 --> 00:49:36,319
and this magnificent building
by Le Corbusier,
590
00:49:38,639 --> 00:49:40,639
inhabited by these beautiful souls.
591
00:49:41,479 --> 00:49:45,038
And I think our friend Le Corbusier would be
very, very happy to see this.
592
00:50:02,639 --> 00:50:03,639
That’s me?
593
00:50:13,079 --> 00:50:15,679
It's been a pleasure for me.
594
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,078
It allowed me to
move around, I'm very happy.
595
00:50:19,079 --> 00:50:21,679
I've met a wonderful team.
596
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:26,638
I'm sorry we have to leave
each other since you're going to go.
597
00:50:26,639 --> 00:50:29,359
I would want to continue
to always work with you.
598
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:33,118
It's been a great, great pleasure.
I'm very, very happy.
599
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,559
I'm blown away by the
alignment of the planets.
600
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:13,200
The plants are in their place, the collages
are in their place. People are in their place.
601
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,319
We've settled into the movement
and we’ve found our place.
602
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,199
With a little tear
603
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,318
for the people we're leaving
because we’ve developed
604
00:51:26,319 --> 00:51:28,638
a strong relationship for this experience.
605
00:51:28,639 --> 00:51:34,399
The portraits of the people who were
with us during this covid, during a year
606
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:40,319
and it's quite touching to see them there again,
printed on the building.
607
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:38,518
ANNE-LAURE:
So tonight's event is a double one. It's both
the opening of our gallery ‘La Piscine’
608
00:52:38,519 --> 00:52:42,600
and the inauguration of our exhibition.
609
00:52:43,519 --> 00:52:44,758
A double challenge.
610
00:52:44,759 --> 00:52:49,038
It's a bit exciting to think, well, are
people going to come?
611
00:52:49,039 --> 00:52:52,399
Will they be curious enough
to come and discover this space?
612
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:53,758
I have the impression
that people are talking about it,
613
00:52:53,759 --> 00:52:56,719
so I'm afraid there'll be a lot of
people, and at the same time, I don't know.
614
00:52:56,720 --> 00:52:59,759
Maybe there won't be.
I have no idea, actually.
615
00:53:01,439 --> 00:53:04,359
It came gradually.
It's always the spacewe live in.
616
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:05,959
So here we have
617
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,958
three video projectors
we'd used for the Salvation Army.
618
00:53:08,959 --> 00:53:13,439
So it's a triptych of each story, each portrait
619
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:19,078
and now it's going to be presented
tonight in the pool with DJ B-Side
620
00:53:19,079 --> 00:53:22,519
who's going to do a sound improvisation.
621
00:53:22,879 --> 00:53:26,318
So we realize it's quite a feat
622
00:53:26,319 --> 00:53:30,400
to open an art venue
right in the center of this neighborhood.
623
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:35,118
And this performance, in fact,
is yet another Human Soul performance,
624
00:53:35,119 --> 00:53:40,399
because we're bringing back all the portraits
we've built up along the way.
625
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,599
We bring them back to
my childhood home
626
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:47,758
and we use them to integrate
into the social fabric here.
627
00:53:47,759 --> 00:53:51,399
So we're back to building
relationships through art,
628
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,679
with the portraits we've
created around the world.
629
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:58,478
The question is, will it work?
Will it resonate with the people?
630
00:53:58,479 --> 00:54:00,158
I think it will work.
631
00:54:00,159 --> 00:54:05,478
In any case, it's already worked because it's
allowed us to meet some pretty exceptional people.
632
00:54:05,479 --> 00:54:09,319
It's partly thanks to the people I've met
recently that I'm taking the trouble to create this.
633
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,400
So, it's a kind of a...
634
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,600
An endless search...
635
00:54:17,519 --> 00:54:22,318
that never stops because every new
encounter inspires us to do something else.
636
00:55:06,879 --> 00:55:10,158
ANNE-LAURE:
We've always worked on our project
637
00:55:10,159 --> 00:55:12,919
starting with the individual,
then the ethnic group
638
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:17,318
and here, it's like creating a Human Soul
at the scale of a neighborhood
639
00:55:17,319 --> 00:55:20,279
and to see the reaction,
to see if it can take hold
640
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,359
if it can federate, if it can create...
641
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,559
Not a community,
because we're not community-minded
642
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,158
but it's just about creating something
and bonding us
643
00:55:28,159 --> 00:55:29,799
around this project.
644
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:31,478
Since it’s a meeting place,
645
00:55:31,479 --> 00:55:35,519
all we want is for everyone to tell their story and
bring something to the table.
646
00:55:36,159 --> 00:55:37,879
So it’s a challenge!
647
00:56:31,119 --> 00:56:35,038
Human Soul is best described
as an encounter.
648
00:56:35,039 --> 00:56:39,038
and in Human Soul, there's
the human and the soul.
649
00:56:39,039 --> 00:56:44,638
And finally, in encounters, we find - we must
find - the human soul, that is to say, what
650
00:56:44,639 --> 00:56:49,518
makes people come alive, what makes us want
to live, to love, to undertake,
651
00:56:49,519 --> 00:56:51,158
to go out and meet others.
652
00:56:51,159 --> 00:56:54,719
Human Soul, we’re in it,
we're in this soul...
653
00:56:54,720 --> 00:57:02,799
They've found these individual beauties in
places you'd never imagine existed.
654
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,879
We think we'd have to go
to other planets to see this.
655
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,639
So it's an interstellar voyage and...
656
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:10,758
We're floating
657
00:57:10,759 --> 00:57:16,078
When we meet Nelson, with all
his beauty and all his...
658
00:57:16,079 --> 00:57:18,279
We can obviously see that
he lives in another country,
659
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:19,559
completely different from ours,
660
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:23,999
but at the same time,
it's a kind of mirror of ourselves too.
661
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,559
In the same way, when you see the
Salvation Army,
662
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,838
it offers a kind of beauty of the other
663
00:57:27,839 --> 00:57:29,359
and curiosity about the other.
664
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:33,399
And when you come out
of this encounter with Human Soul,
665
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:38,359
it makes you want to see even more, to
go out and meet others too,
666
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,478
whoever they may be, in the street.
667
00:57:40,479 --> 00:57:43,399
And this is a form of... love
668
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:48,920
or at least a greater interest in others.
669
00:58:01,239 --> 00:58:02,399
ANNE-LAURE: You know, we were afraid.
670
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:07,158
We were afraid because we said so: tonight,
we get naked, doubly naked.
671
00:58:07,159 --> 00:58:10,679
In other words, when you're an artist
and you have an exhibition,
672
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:14,319
you're always worried about
how your work will be perceived.
673
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:17,919
So we both got naked
because we showed our work,
674
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:19,638
our collages, our photos.
675
00:58:19,639 --> 00:58:23,438
So already as artists, we're wondering
how our work will be perceived,
676
00:58:23,439 --> 00:58:27,799
but more than that, we were opening up
our home, telling people about our lives.
677
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:29,159
In the end,
678
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:33,838
this suggestion of an elsewhere,
679
00:58:33,839 --> 00:58:34,958
with people who, through resilience
680
00:58:34,959 --> 00:58:37,038
with people who, through resilience
681
00:58:37,039 --> 00:58:38,920
develop this richness
682
00:58:39,879 --> 00:58:41,959
of savoir vivre
683
00:58:43,039 --> 00:58:44,000
Well...
684
00:58:44,839 --> 00:58:48,519
When we share it, it reassures everyone
and in fact we are really happy
685
00:58:48,759 --> 00:58:50,479
and it’s quite moving.
686
00:58:52,439 --> 00:58:53,359
that’s cool
687
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:14,359
I'd like to finish by saying that when you
meet a beautiful person...
688
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:15,638
You keep them
689
00:59:15,639 --> 00:59:20,360
Find a way, find a way
to live an adventure with them.
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