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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:34,440 It was just kind of a crisis of humanity. 4 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,880 People just weren't really stepping up 5 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:38,920 to the magnitude of the problem. 6 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,200 They weren't really human for a moment. 7 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,160 The many people that I have lost in my family 8 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,800 the many people that I nursed and who have died of AIDS 9 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:55,560 could have been spared. 10 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,640 People are dying and the medicines are in my briefcase! 11 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:03,840 It's fine for people in rich countries to say 12 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:04,920 this is what it ought to be. 13 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,480 They don't have to live in these little villages 14 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:07,960 and watch people die like flies. 15 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,800 Let me put it this way. 16 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,080 There is no developed country 17 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:23,440 which would have tolerated the loss of millions of their citizens 18 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,360 while life-saving drugs were available. 19 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,320 If it is true that one death is a tragedy, 20 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,080 and a million deaths a statistic. 21 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,880 This is a story about statistics. 22 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,000 The millions of people in poor countries 23 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,960 who died needlessly of AIDS 24 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,200 while giant pharmaceutical companies 25 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,480 blocked access to the low-cost medicine 26 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,759 which could have saved their lives. 27 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,200 {\an8}This was the most catastrophic emergency, 28 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,680 {\an8}Africa and the world has ever seen. 29 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,520 There were non-stop funerals taking place on a daily basis. 30 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,800 The orphans' population had exploded. 31 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:35,200 The backyards of most homesteads were full of graves... 32 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,040 all of them, recent. 33 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,360 {\an8}I saw so many people who would have lived. 34 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:51,000 {\an8}I saw them die painfully, excruciatingly. 35 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,280 And yet, their death was not inevitable. 36 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,160 I had a small ward with ten beds 37 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,800 and a hundred percent of the patients in ward were HIV positive 38 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,880 {\an8}and every day I saw people dying... eight to nine patients a day. 39 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,400 When you are with the patients and you see patients dying in your hand... 40 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,800 You know, it is difficult to say to the patient 41 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,200 that you have this disease and we don't have anything to help you. 42 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:36,120 ''Look, you are HIV positive and that's all, bye...'' You know? 43 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:13,080 I was diagnosed with HIV in... at the end of 1986. 44 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:19,959 But I fell very ill with AIDS about 11 years after my diagnosis, in 1997. 45 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,280 {\an8}I was unable to walk a simple flight of stairs 46 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,800 I was severely ill... I faced death from AIDS 47 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,360 because I had four or five of the defining symptoms of AIDS. 48 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:43,400 In 1996, everything changed for people like Justice Cameron 49 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:48,440 when a combination of three antiretroviral drugs, or ARVs, 50 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,040 proved sucessful in fighting HIV. 51 00:04:53,840 --> 00:04:57,000 Suddenly the most feared and destructive disease of the age 52 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,240 was no longer a death sentence 53 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,480 I started on the drugs having been enormously ill 54 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,080 and within two weeks 55 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,240 I could feel that my life had been given back to me. 56 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,120 It's what some AIDS doctors call the 'Lazarus Effect'. 57 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,520 My appetite returned, my strength returned, 58 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,600 my energy returned, my joy for life returned 59 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,800 and it was the most astonishing experience of my life. 60 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,200 The drugs he was taking were sold internationally 61 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,800 at prices over 15,000 dollars per patient per year. 62 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,160 far beyond the reach of tens of millions of people 63 00:05:48,280 --> 00:05:50,160 living with HIV/AIDS. 64 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,840 The drugs were enormously expensive. 65 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,560 They took up a third of my judicial salary. 66 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,880 Most people in Western Europe and North America accepted 67 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,600 that drug manufacturers are entitled to a specified price 68 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,200 in the open market, which is a market defined by 69 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,800 North American and Western European conditions 70 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,520 and if that price is unreachably high 71 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,040 to people in the developing world... 72 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,240 Africa and Asia, South America, that's just too bad. 73 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:22,440 Those people must die. 74 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,360 At the moment we had our political freedom 75 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,800 HIV came along and robbed people of life. 76 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,880 It's in many ways worse than what happened under apartheid. 77 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,520 Zackie Achmat had grown up fighting against 78 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,920 white minority rule in South Africa. 79 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,160 In 1998, now HIV-positive 80 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,920 he founded the Treatment Action Campaign 81 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,040 to address the problem of access to AIDS medication. 82 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,800 ...and the only reason we are dying is because we are poor 83 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,360 The only reason we are dying is because we are poor. 84 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,680 The problem Zackie and other South Africans faced 85 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:01,600 was both simple and brutal. 86 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,080 The drugs they needed were made under patent 87 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,520 by multinational pharmaceutical companies 88 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,720 and the patent made it illegal for others to make, sell or 89 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,560 import unpatented generic drugs 90 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:17,960 which typically cost far less. 91 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,200 In 2000, one of my cousins 92 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,360 {\an8}Farida Abrahams, died of AIDS-related illnesses 93 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,080 {\an8}and she couldn't afford antiretrovirals. 94 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:31,560 {\an8}And in fact, we'd smuggled 95 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,799 generic FIuconazole into the country for her 96 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,280 which gave her an extra six months of life 97 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,360 in which she could die a dignified death 98 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,320 instead of a really horrible, cruel death. 99 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,520 But she died because she couldn't afford antiretrovirals 100 00:08:45,680 --> 00:08:47,240 and that was a close family member. 101 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:54,000 The only way Zackie could help his cousin was by breaking the law 102 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:59,680 American pharma company Pfizer sold patented Fluconazole 103 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,360 which could alleviate extreme pain in those suffering 104 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,720 from AIDS-related infections 105 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,800 under the brand-name 'Diflucan'. 106 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,240 Its patent gave the company a monopoly in South Africa 107 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,680 enabling it to charge astronomical prices. 108 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:20,040 A generic version was available at a tiny fraction of the cost, 109 00:09:20,680 --> 00:09:22,560 but that was in Thailand. 110 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:40,560 Fluconazole in Thailand, cost less than five US cents per capsule 111 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:47,080 and in South Africa, they were paying 30 dollars a capsule. 112 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,000 And there's no difference in quality. 113 00:09:52,560 --> 00:09:56,200 The generic from Thailand, made in a government factory 114 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,120 was indistinguishable from the branded drug 115 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,400 being sold in South Africa. 116 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:08,400 Pfizer's patent, however, made importing it, a criminal offence. 117 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,760 We don't have the intention of breaking the law. 118 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,440 What we will be doing is breaking Pfizer's patent. 119 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,480 We will be showing that Pfizer 120 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,800 and other companies are abusing their patent. 121 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,360 We have no criminal intention 122 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,760 Our only intention is to defend people's lives. 123 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,800 I am a journalist by profession. 124 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,760 I work for a paper called 'The New Vision'. 125 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:11,120 {\an8}I am the first journalist in East Africa 126 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:15,840 {\an8}who declared his HIV status publicly. 127 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,240 I was almost pronounced dead. 128 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,920 I was in a coma for many days. 129 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,920 I was reduced into a skeleton. 130 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,840 Anti-retroviral therapy was bloody expensive 131 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:41,400 A dose would go for over a million shillings, you couldn't afford. 132 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,440 If I had died, I would have been 133 00:11:46,560 --> 00:11:51,360 the eighth member of the same family to be claimed by AIDS. 134 00:11:53,680 --> 00:11:57,760 I don't mean relatives, I am talking about brothers and sisters. 135 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,040 My mother couldn't bear seeing 136 00:12:07,560 --> 00:12:12,600 one, two, three, four, five, six, seven... all her children perishing... 137 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:19,680 She was imagining she was going to lose her eighth child. 138 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,240 She had lost hope. 139 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,720 Hope was at a premium on the other side of the Atlantic as well. 140 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,360 Desperate to build awareness among Americans 141 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,640 about the fact that millions of people were dying of HIV/AIDS 142 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,440 even though there were drugs which could save them 143 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,440 intellectual property activist, James Love 144 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,440 found few people in Washington willing to 145 00:12:47,560 --> 00:12:49,800 so much as discuss the issue 146 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,840 and was surprised by the response of some he thought would join him. 147 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,280 A lot of American AIDS activists were opposed to this. 148 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,320 They didn't really care... they felt like they had drugs. 149 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:03,480 {\an8}If they had cheap drugs in Africa 150 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,600 {\an8}they thought it might discourage R&D for them. 151 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,440 {\an8}They had insurance, they didn't see the pricing problem. 152 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,800 Many in the West feared that treating people in the Third World 153 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,560 could cause the AIDS virus to mutate 154 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:19,680 and become resistant to the drugs. 155 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:25,080 The rap was, you couldn't give drugs to people in Africa 156 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,240 because they would misuse them. 157 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,560 They wouldn't be compliant in terms of treatment. 158 00:13:30,680 --> 00:13:33,400 They'd develop resistance... 159 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:37,080 resistance would come back and kill Americans or kill Europeans. 160 00:13:38,560 --> 00:13:39,840 They are mostIy illiterates 161 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,800 {\an8}can't read the information on the leaflets in the drug packets 162 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:45,920 {\an8}and have to cope without a healthcare system 163 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:48,880 {\an8}that can tell them about the disease they have 164 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,240 The biggest problem for antiretrovirals 165 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,480 this sounds small and some people... 166 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,720 {\an8}if you've travelled to rural Africa, you know this. 167 00:13:59,960 --> 00:14:02,280 {\an8}This is not a criticism, just a different world. 168 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,560 {\an8}People do not know what watches and clocks are. 169 00:14:04,680 --> 00:14:09,440 {\an8}They do not use Western means for telling the time, they use the sun. 170 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:34,080 In July 2000, four years after the combination therapy breakthrough 171 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,400 had changed the outlook for people with HIV in the rich West 172 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:39,920 the biennial International AIDS Conference 173 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,280 was held for the first time in Africa 174 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:46,480 the continent with more than two-thirds of the world's HIV cases. 175 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,720 Over two million people were reported to have died in that year alone. 176 00:14:55,480 --> 00:15:00,000 So people were fed up with being called to a conference 177 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,960 told how AIDS can be treated 178 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,320 and at the end be sent home 179 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,400 to watch their people dying without treatment. 180 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:12,680 Where are the drugs? 181 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:20,880 That's where they are... the drugs are where the disease is not! 182 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:33,800 And where is the disease? The disease is where the drugs are not 183 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,040 Protestors directed their anger at pharmaceutical companies. 184 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,000 New drugs promise to prolong life 185 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:45,160 but they are too expensive for the 23 million Africans dying of AIDS 186 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,480 The power of the drug companies is strong, they have money... 187 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,000 I've never seen that kind of anger 188 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,720 which was directed at pharmaceutical companies. 189 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:03,000 We are never going to stop until everyone in Africa 190 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:09,720 everyone in Asia, everyone in Latin America has access to drugs. 191 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:15,280 But we will not forget the poor people in Europe 192 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,880 and the poor people in North America... 193 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,320 In the heightened and expectant atmosphere 194 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,360 High Court Justice Edwin Cameron took the stage. 195 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,000 Please take your seat, the court is in session! 196 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:38,000 I am here because I am on antiretroviral therapy 197 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,960 I can afford my medication. 198 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:48,360 Now why should I have the privilege 199 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,040 of purchasing my life and health 200 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:56,800 when 34 million people in the resource-poor world are falling ill 201 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,160 feeling sick to death, and are dying? 202 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:03,880 We need to change the facts 203 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:09,040 that are going to lead to the deaths of 25 million people in Africa. 204 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:11,000 We will change that fact. 205 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,359 We will challenge the future, and we will intervene in it. 206 00:17:14,599 --> 00:17:16,040 Thank you very much. 207 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:21,440 You may not do this. 208 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,200 You may not leave ten or 20 or 30 million Africans 209 00:17:25,319 --> 00:17:29,080 to die unnecessarily from a disease that can be medically treated. 210 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,800 That was the turning point that Durban represented. 211 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:46,520 Lots of people were dying because they needed the ARVs 212 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:55,080 {\an8}Those who didn't die, they must thank God. 213 00:17:59,120 --> 00:18:02,520 By that time, there were no people who were saying that 214 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,800 ''I am HIV positive.'' 215 00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:10,080 No one was saying HIV or AIDS, they would say, 216 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,040 "Don't say, don't say the word", you know? 217 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,160 I got married in 1995. 218 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,760 I don't like him, but everybody forced me to get married. 219 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:44,560 and after 45 days I came to know my status. 220 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,640 I got the result and I only read that it's AIDS. 221 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,040 So I know AIDS means death. 222 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,400 {\an8}And I know AIDS is what immoral people get... 223 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:01,520 {\an8}I am not immoral... How did I get the virus to my body? 224 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,000 During that time, I came to know 225 00:19:06,120 --> 00:19:09,360 my husband knew his status before my marriage. 226 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,440 Seven months later, he died. 227 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,720 {\an8}In this country, people think that... 228 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:26,160 {\an8}they are all saints, and those who get HIV are sinners. 229 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:32,520 There was no doctor who wanted to touch people with HIV. 230 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:38,160 We used to admit them in a little thatched roof on the side of the road 231 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,800 because no hospital wanted to admit them. 232 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:52,280 {\an8}We were fighting desperateIy to try to convince patent-holders, 233 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,240 {\an8}the main pharmaceutical companies 234 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:59,000 GlaxoSmithKline, Pfizer, Boehringer-Ingelheim... 235 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,480 ...question of access to treatment, which... 236 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,000 and we said, "Listen none of the clients here 237 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,440 are using your drugs, and will probably 238 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,480 ever be able to use your drugs. 239 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:14,120 Can you please allow us to import generic drugs? 240 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,920 And they answered to us very quickly... 241 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:20,800 and the answer, of course, was 'No.' 242 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,760 While the death toll in Africa continued to rise 243 00:20:27,120 --> 00:20:30,080 AIDS was now largely seen as old news in the West 244 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:34,200 where mass demonstrations for access to drugs in poor countries 245 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:35,880 went all but unnoticed. 246 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:48,800 HIV and AIDS is happening in the developing world 247 00:20:49,120 --> 00:20:50,440 the so called 'Third World' 248 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:56,040 {\an8}which has always, as it were, been at the bottom of the pile. 249 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,920 Although low-cost generic ARVs were now being made 250 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,120 in a few more developed countries like Thailand and Brazil 251 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,320 quietly acting to curb their own epidemics 252 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,160 governments in the poorest and hardest-hit countries 253 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,680 backed away from challenging Western patents on AIDS drugs 254 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,200 having been repeatedly warned by the United States and others 255 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,480 that doing so would lead to severe consequences. 256 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,440 The US government and the industry work hand in hand. 257 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,720 {\an8}Aid from the US is rarely given without strings. 258 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,160 {\an8}It's given to further American interests. 259 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,680 Those interests are in line with the companies because 260 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,040 quite frankly, at the end 261 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,720 the companies are running the US government. 262 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,360 I mean they are pulling the strings. 263 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:51,960 It had taken nearly forty years 264 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,600 for the United States government to put apartheid South Africa 265 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,160 on a sanctions watchlist 266 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,640 but it took less than three years to put democratic South Africa 267 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,120 trying to make medicines affordable to its people 268 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,440 onto a sanctions watchlist, at the behest of drug companies. 269 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,880 Donald McNeil covers global health for the New York Times 270 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,360 The actual price of the pill has nothing to do 271 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,440 with what it costs to manufacture the pill. 272 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,840 {\an8}They could pretty much set the price of the pills at anything they wanted 273 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,640 {\an8}they were still making a profit at five cents 274 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,960 {\an8}but they were charging the same twenty-five dollars a pill 275 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:36,840 in South Africa that they were in the United States. 276 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:46,520 So I began to see more how completely screwed up and unfair the system was 277 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,600 The drug industry like any other private corporation 278 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:54,800 is there to make money. 279 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,720 It's there to make money for its shareholders. 280 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,440 The concept is to set the price 281 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,600 at the level where you will maximise revenues. 282 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,160 {\an8}That means you are going to lose some patients because it's so high 283 00:23:08,360 --> 00:23:09,800 {\an8}but you're making up for it 284 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,560 {\an8}because the others are forced to pay that very high price. 285 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,840 With life-saving products, it is a terrible mistake 286 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,240 to put shareholder value 287 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,760 above the lives and livelihoods of 288 00:23:26,120 --> 00:23:28,000 millions of people who will die as a result. 289 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,360 Branded pharmaceuticals had for decades 290 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,600 been the most profitable business on earth. 291 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,440 Even though the industry made almost all its money 292 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,120 in rich Western countries 293 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,880 with half of all revenue coming from the United States alone. 294 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,880 The continent of Africa as a whole 295 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,120 accounted for just one percent of sales 296 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,160 While Africa was only of marginal interest as a market 297 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,640 {\an8}the drug industry feared that relaxing its patent monopolies 298 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,840 {\an8}in the poorest countries could set a bad precedent 299 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,720 one which might threaten future profit margins 300 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,760 in major emerging markets like China and India. 301 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,320 My God, I mean, the sales were practically zero. 302 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,120 {\an8}The sales were essentially a rounding error 303 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,480 {\an8}for the whole continent of Africa. It was ideological. 304 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,000 Africa wasn't going to make any difference to them anyhow. 305 00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:47,120 When the doctor told me Lisa was HIV+ 306 00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:51,520 I cried and I cried and I cried for an hour... 307 00:24:54,280 --> 00:25:00,040 Firstly she was diagnosed with meningitis, and then pneumonia 308 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,160 Everyone was very scared to touch her. 309 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,120 That's when I started to get angry 310 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,000 and I just told myself, ''Ok, why am I keeping quiet of this?'' 311 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,960 As the symptoms of his own HIV infection worsened 312 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,320 and his health deteriorated 313 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,600 Zackie Achmat took a momentous decision. 314 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,680 As an internationally-known activist 315 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,760 he would surely be able to access ARVs. 316 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,640 But for all those around him the story was entirely different. 317 00:25:42,120 --> 00:25:48,000 If my sisters or brothers or cousins had HIV, or had AIDS 318 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,320 and needed medicines, they wouldn't have been able to get it 319 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,800 {\an8}and I grew up in a house where your mum said 320 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,240 {\an8}"If all the kids can't have chocolate one is not going to have it." 321 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,400 Having made up his mind, Zackie Achmat announced that 322 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,720 he would boycott antiretrovirals 323 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:10,000 until the South African government made them available to everyone 324 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,720 I think, that probably made a big difference. 325 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,880 Even Mandela at one point was saying ''Please take the drugs...'' 326 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,560 When he phoned up and said ''I am coming to your house 327 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:34,680 and you're going to take your medicines'', 328 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,160 I said to him, ''No, sorry, that's not how I do business.'' 329 00:26:42,360 --> 00:26:44,120 He is a role model 330 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,240 and his action is based on fundamental principle. 331 00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:54,520 It would have been futile for me to come to him to say 332 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:59,280 ''I want you to change now, to take drugs'' 333 00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:02,640 because his position 334 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:07,400 is that, as long as drugs are not available 335 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,800 to everybody, especially the poor, he will not take them. 336 00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:33,320 I talked to people that worked for the National Security Council. 337 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,560 I talked to the World Bank, I talked to UNAIDS 338 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,360 I talked to the World Health Organization 339 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,720 the Office of AIDS for the United States government 340 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:43,640 and I kept asking them the same question 341 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,120 I said, ''If you didn't have to worry about patents 342 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,120 what would it cost to create a treatment for AIDS 343 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:50,880 for people in developing countries?'' 344 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,320 And I used to tell people ''Look, if there were 345 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,800 30-40 million white people that didn't have access to treatment 346 00:27:58,120 --> 00:28:00,160 somebody would know the answer to that question. 347 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,320 Somebody would ask that question. 348 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,640 Some Member of Congress would want to know. 349 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,800 It wouldn't just be kind of 350 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:09,880 the unasked question. 351 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,720 It would be the most important question you could possibly imagine. 352 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,880 And I was just shocked at the lack of information. 353 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,960 The man who got Love his answer was former journalist, 354 00:28:22,360 --> 00:28:24,200 advisor to President Kennedy 355 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,520 and pioneering advocate for generic drugs, Bill Haddad. 356 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,320 {\an8}They wanted to know where you could get the raw materials 357 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,600 to make the AIDS medicines. 358 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,640 Then I called up Agnes Varis, who was a friend 359 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:46,040 and a big importer of raw materials and she said, ''call Dr. Hamied... 360 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,600 he's an iconoclast, he's not afraid of the multinationals 361 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,360 he's the one you need to talk to.'' 362 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,720 Yusuf Hamied was a Cambridge-educated Indian chemist 363 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,120 who ran a company called Cipla, based in Mumbai 364 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,240 which his father had founded in 1935 365 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,840 {\an8}Cipla had begun making generic antiretrovirals 366 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:15,280 {\an8}in the early 1990s at the request of the Indian government. 367 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,560 And within twenty minutes I knew he was the person I had to see. 368 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:28,600 In August 2000, Haddad and Love met Dr. Hamied in London 369 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,480 along with a handpicked group including 370 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,520 Denis Broun, a leading French expert on AIDS in Africa. 371 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,120 {\an8}And it was supposed to be a very secret meeting 372 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,400 {\an8}I was in WHO at the time 373 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,720 {\an8}I remember taking leave and going in hiding to London. 374 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:47,560 I asked Dr. Hamied... 375 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,560 I said, ''Look, what we're trying to figure out is 376 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,400 at rock bottom prices. 377 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,840 What would it cost to get an AIDS drug?'' 378 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,640 The key to pricing in medicines 379 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,920 {\an8}is the price of the active pharmaceutical ingredient 380 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,200 {\an8}If you can get that cheaply, your end product is cheap. 381 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,680 Hamied explained in detail how an antiretroviral cocktail 382 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,600 could be produced for a small fraction of the prices 383 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,080 prevailing at the time. 384 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,760 I felt the whole of Africa was being taken for a ride. 385 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,280 For a lot of us, it was a kind of cultural revolution. 386 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,240 Treatment for AIDS was something for the rich. 387 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,360 It was something which was unthinkable for Africans. 388 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,000 He was just transforming the whole landscape 389 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,600 and we decided to help as much as we could. 390 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,320 Hamied's father was a devotee of Mahatma Gandhi 391 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,920 who had studied pharmacy in Berlin at Gandhi's urging 392 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,520 and later established Cipla in line with his mentor's firm belief 393 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,280 that India needed to produce its own medicine 394 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,560 in order to become self-reliant. 395 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,080 We learnt a very important lesson from Mahatma Gandhi 396 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:18,040 and that was that every country has to decide for themselves 397 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:19,840 their own destiny. 398 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,120 Yusuf Hamied had been the driving force 399 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,440 in persuading Prime Minister Indira Gandhi 400 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,920 to rewrite India's patent laws in the late 1960s 401 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,400 so as to reduce the country's dependence 402 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,320 on costly patented medicine from the West 403 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,760 My idea of a better ordered world 404 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,760 is one in which medical discoveries would be free of patents 405 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,480 and there would be no profiteering from life or death. 406 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,640 {\an8}Until 1970, India had some of the highest drug prices in the world 407 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,000 {\an8}and India's average life expectancy for a man was in his forties. 408 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,280 They changed the law and the drug prices fell dramatically. 409 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,600 Drugs were available, life expectancy shot up 410 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,440 and a lot of other things improved in society. 411 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,400 The reason we set up the system we have today 412 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,600 from the drug industry's perspective 413 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,000 is to maximise lives for humankind. 414 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,120 {\an8}That's why we have patents, that's why we have a free market. 415 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,360 {\an8}These are not natural forces born out of Mother Earth 416 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:39,840 it's something we made up... 417 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,440 patents are made up, the free market is made up. 418 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,320 Patent laws typically give the inventor of a product 419 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:50,720 such as a drug 420 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,800 a legal monopoly over its production and sale 421 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,880 for a fixed number of years. 422 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,480 The state gives the inventor of a new drug, like 423 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,400 a prize, a grant of a favour. 424 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:10,640 Exclusive rights to this invention for a period of twenty years. 425 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,840 The patent laws are not international. 426 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,840 They're national laws and need-based for the country. 427 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:27,640 Each country's needs are reflected in the patent laws that they make. 428 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,760 The patent system has been perverted a great deal... 429 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,680 {\an8}especially in the last quarter-century 430 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,800 We make them because we believe that when they are appropriately designed 431 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:51,200 {\an8}they will promote innovation and societal well-being. 432 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,120 {\an8}But when they're not appropriately designed 433 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,440 {\an8}they will result in people dying 434 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,840 and they will result in a suppression of innovation 435 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,720 and it's happened over and over again. 436 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,080 I always give the example of the first drug 437 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,360 for AIDS-AZT. 438 00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:18,159 It was first invented in 1963. 439 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:20,760 '63. 440 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:27,880 {\an8}The first usage of AZT in AIDS was 1985. 441 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,000 Patented. 442 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,800 So that patent lasted till 2005. 443 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,400 Now, just before 2005, Glaxo says 444 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,679 "AZT should not be used on its own. 445 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,960 It's useless, should not be used. 446 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,639 It should be used in combination with Lamivudine.'' 447 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,000 That patent runs out in 2017. 448 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,080 That means, directly and indirectly 449 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,240 AZT, the first antiretroviral drug 450 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:07,840 invented in '63, has been covered under monopoly 451 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,480 for 54 years. 452 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,840 Is that what patenting is all about? 453 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:33,080 In September 2000, Hamied was invited to the European Commission in Brussels 454 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,920 for high-level talks involving health ministers 455 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,120 and heads of government from numerous countries 456 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,800 {\an8}along with chief executives of major pharma companies. 457 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,120 The subject of the closed-door meeting was 458 00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:50,440 access to medicine in the developing world, above all for HIV/AIDS. 459 00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:56,040 {\an8}Cipla was sitting between Merck and Glaxo. 460 00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,000 {\an8}First time they would put a generic company there 461 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,640 and everybody made their traditional speech 462 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,920 and all of a sudden Dr. Hamied got up and said 463 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,480 "Friends, I represent the Third World 464 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,520 I represent the needs and aspirations of the Third World 465 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,880 {\an8}I represent the capabilities of the Third World 466 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,680 and above all I represent an opportunity. 467 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:26,080 We all have a responsibility to alleviate the suffering of millions 468 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,240 of our fellow men who are afflicted with HIV and AIDS. 469 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,120 We strongly believe that in the Third World 470 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,360 there should be no monopolies for vital 471 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,040 life-saving and essential drugs. 472 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,040 We are the only manufacturer today 473 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,640 {\an8}of one of the triple drug combinations proven to be effective 474 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,680 {\an8}We are ready to offer this combination internationally 475 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,480 at US dollars eight hundred per patient per year. 476 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,600 Apart from us, there is a growing number... 477 00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:04,320 {\an8}He said, ''Will you decide to have patents and high price 478 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,920 {\an8}or will you decide to have the lives of people?'' 479 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,320 {\an8}We made three proposals at that meeting. 480 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:18,760 {\an8}One was to supply anti-AIDS cocktail at eight hundred dollars 481 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:24,000 Two, we would give the know-how to produce anti-AIDS drugs 482 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,240 to any Third World government 483 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,280 who wanted the technology to develop their own 484 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,440 and we would give the technology free. 485 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,040 And third, we said that one of the drugs 486 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,760 which stops the transmission of HIV 487 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,360 mother to child, we would give free throughout the world. 488 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,560 {\an8}We call upon the participants of this conference 489 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,520 {\an8}to do what their conscience dictates. 490 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:50,320 Thank you. 491 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,400 It was devastating to the group, I mean 492 00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:57,760 everybody was just taking their breath in. 493 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,960 Though Hamied's offer sent shockwaves through the political 494 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:06,120 and pharmaceutical establishments, no one took him up on it. 495 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:08,800 Nobody took us seriously 496 00:38:10,720 --> 00:38:14,320 and I was absolutely disillusioned. 497 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,560 When I was young, heroin was a new thing in Manipur. 498 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:59,720 The Golden Triangle is next door and drugs were flooding in. 499 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,800 There was no AIDS awareness at the time, 500 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,640 so we used to share needles. 501 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:29,080 When the doctor told me I had tested positive... 502 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,880 I never left my house for the next three years. 503 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,200 Even my close friends stopped visiting. 504 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,800 I felt completely abandoned. 505 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,200 I wanted to do something 506 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,080 to prove that my life was worth living. 507 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,680 No industry has made more profit over the past several decades 508 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,600 than brand-name pharmaceuticals. 509 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,320 At the time of Hamied's offer in Brussels 510 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,440 the ten biggest pharma companies on the Fortune 500 list 511 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:30,120 were more profitable than the other 490 companies combined. 512 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,360 These companies spend far more money on advertising 513 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,800 and marketing than they do on R&D. 514 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,720 {\an8}On average, less than one and a half cents from every dollar in sales 515 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,960 {\an8}goes to research for discovering new drugs. 516 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,200 The pharmaceutical industry pretends 517 00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,240 that it's spending all this money on research and development 518 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,920 but in fact, vast amounts of that money is spent on its sales force 519 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,640 vast amounts of that money is spent on dividends to shareholders 520 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,760 vast amounts are spent entertaining doctors 521 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,640 and on huge salaries to the heads of the companies 522 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,560 and it's all coming off the backs of the people who buy these drugs. 523 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,600 They sell the drugs, they don't do the R&D. 524 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,440 They're not that good at R&D, Big Pharma. 525 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,640 Big Pharma is really big through acquisition 526 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,600 of other people's technology. 527 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,480 Eighty-four percent of worldwide research 528 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,560 for drug discovery is funded by government and public sources. 529 00:41:43,720 --> 00:41:48,120 Pharmaceutical companies fund just twelve percent of such research. 530 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:55,920 I think you could say that 531 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,440 taxpayers are actually paying several times for the same drugs, yes. 532 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,800 If you look at the HIV drugs that are being sold, 533 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:11,400 seven out of ten of them were actually not invented 534 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,480 by the people or the companies that are selling them. 535 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,600 ...we're looking at the impurity profile, it looks very good. 536 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:22,040 Public-funded research should be free for the public. 537 00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:28,920 But while the drug companies and politicians 538 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,880 paid little attention to Hamied, Donald McNeil did. 539 00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:37,320 I think the story that was probably the most important story 540 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,240 I've ever written in my career was that 541 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:44,600 I went to India and profiled Yusuf Hamied. 542 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:47,760 And the reason it's important 543 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,480 I think, is because up until then 544 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,600 whenever you talked to the pharmaceutical companies 545 00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:54,080 the implication was, ''Oh, you know 546 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:55,960 if you let the patent barriers come down 547 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:57,560 if you get rid of intellectual property 548 00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,520 pretty soon those drugs from India 549 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:00,600 are going to start coming in.'' 550 00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:02,680 And the implication was... nobody would say it, but they always 551 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,360 gave you the impression that these are pirate drugs 552 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,080 these are going to be counterfeits 553 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,960 they're going to be dirty, they're going to be substandard 554 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,120 and I think most people sort of bought into that idea. 555 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,960 But when I got to India I find spotless factories 556 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,160 and I hadn't realised at the time that an enormous amount 557 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,480 of the generic drugs sold in the United States 558 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,840 were actually sourced in India in those same factories 559 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,800 and many of the active ingredients for the 560 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,640 brand-name drugs were sourced in India. 561 00:43:29,720 --> 00:43:31,720 A lot of his orders came from the United States. 562 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,240 The American pharmaceutical industry 563 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,960 {\an8}takes enormous pride in the quality of our products 564 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,720 {\an8}and there is a very significant issue in India 565 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,600 {\an8}with respect to the quality of the products that are being produced. 566 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,000 They began to take out ads in the South African papers which showed 567 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,640 crying babies and legends saying 568 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,960 "If you allow this drug law to pass 569 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:12,560 it will allow counterfeit drugs into the country that'll kill our children." 570 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:42,000 As the year 2001 began, the architects of the offer made in Brussels 571 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,960 were confounded as to why it had found no takers 572 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,640 or even vocal support within the global AIDS community. 573 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,480 Sensing they would only have one more chance 574 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,240 James Love called up Yusuf Hamied. 575 00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,440 I said, ''Look, I need a very dramatic price 576 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,920 for us to really take this debate further. 577 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,560 We have to show people that things will really change 578 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,520 if they deal with the patent issue.'' 579 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,720 After considering Love's appeal, Hamied and his colleagues 580 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,480 took the decision to write off all production and overhead costs 581 00:45:16,720 --> 00:45:20,520 and offer the triple cocktail for the price of its ingredients alone. 582 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,640 It was a losing proposition at the time 583 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:29,280 but we thought, ''Why should one make money on things that 584 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,400 we know people can't afford? 585 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,840 Let's go ahead and do this on a humanitarian basis.'' 586 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:41,160 And he said ''I'll sell you Nevarapine at 65 cents a day 587 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,200 {\an8}and 3TC at 35 cents a day 588 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,120 {\an8}and I'll throw in D4T for free because they're so cheap to make. 589 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,160 {\an8}So that'll be a dollar, a dollar a day.'' 590 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:17,680 That was a watershed event. 591 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,600 {\an8}Suddenly the price went from 15,000 dollars a year 592 00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:24,880 {\an8}down to 350 dollars a year and that was just the dam breaking. 593 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,280 Donald McNeil put it on the front page of the New York Times 594 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,440 and the Herald Tribune... and it was all over the planet. 595 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,640 It was clearly the magic number. 596 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:39,960 It completely changed things. 597 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,120 What was different is that it wasn't a pledge 598 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,280 or something for the future. 599 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,600 {\an8}You had the medicine in a little box 600 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,640 and it could be delivered tomorrow. 601 00:46:55,840 --> 00:47:00,600 The synapse was there, so it wasn't pie in the sky. 602 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,560 The breakthrough meant that for the first time 603 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,640 governments and donors could contemplate actually treating people 604 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,600 in poor countries for AIDS 605 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,680 instead of simply trying to limit new infections. 606 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,840 I think if Cipla didn't take that step, 607 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,680 and that is what we must acknowledge, 608 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:29,080 {\an8}of announcing a 350-dollar-a-year regimen 609 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,160 {\an8}we would not have had medicine in the way that we do. 610 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,720 You know, if it was the lives of white people at stake... 611 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,760 How could the international community 612 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,000 not know what it cost to save lives? 613 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,440 Why did I have to be the person to go out and figure out 614 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,120 what it costs to make an AIDS drug? 615 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:57,440 I didn't work for the government. 616 00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,280 I didn't work for the World Health Organization 617 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,120 or UNAIDS or the CIA or anyone else. 618 00:48:01,240 --> 00:48:02,680 I just worked for this little NGO. 619 00:48:03,720 --> 00:48:06,840 What was really going on was that WHO didn't want to know 620 00:48:07,240 --> 00:48:09,680 what it cost to make an AIDS cocktail. 621 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,400 UNAIDS didn't want to know what it cost to make an AIDS cocktail. 622 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:16,760 The United States government didn't want to know 623 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,400 what it cost to make an AIDS cocktail, 624 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:19,840 and why didn't they want to know? 625 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,720 Because if the public understood that you could make an AIDS cocktail 626 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,360 for two-three hundred dollars 627 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:26,920 it wouldn't look very good. 628 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,520 It would be an absolute 629 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:35,280 intolerable set of facts to have out there. 630 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,000 So the way they were trying to manage the situation 631 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,760 {\an8}was to deliberately stay as ignorant and as stupid as possible 632 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,920 {\an8}about what the facts were. 633 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,040 It was just a really deep form of racism, I thought. 634 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,560 It was just a completely morally repugnant situation. 635 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,520 Initial excitement about the dollar a day offer 636 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,800 soon gave way to a harsh reality. 637 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,640 Although the price of ARVs was now a tiny fraction of what it had been 638 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:26,760 it remained largely out of reach 639 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,120 to poor African families and their governments 640 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,440 and in most countries, patents continued to block 641 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,200 production and importation of generics. 642 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,840 We managed to get people onto treatment by hook or by crook 643 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,560 but it was really again a case of rationing. 644 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,600 {\an8}Only those lucky few were able to get on to antiretrovirals 645 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,280 yet so many people had to succumb. 646 00:49:55,720 --> 00:49:59,880 {\an8}You made decisions based on who had children to bring up, 647 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,520 who had opportunities. 648 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,280 I guess, almost sort of playing God in a way. 649 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,720 That was hard, really hard 650 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:19,480 {\an8}to choose who goes first, even within a family 651 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,240 {\an8}being forced to choose... ''Is it a husband? 652 00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,680 Is it a wife? Is it a child?'' 653 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,280 Now there's a group of people here at the hospital 654 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,080 that decides which patients are best suited 655 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:38,080 to receive these medicines and your case was discussed already 656 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,200 and it was decided that you're one of the people 657 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,480 that we would like to give these medicines to. 658 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,760 After hearing all that, I mean, is it ok with him? 659 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,440 I accept with all my heart. 660 00:51:10,720 --> 00:51:14,760 Appalled by the relentless carnage, Peter Mugyenyi, 661 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,800 director of the continent's largest AIDS research 662 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:19,200 and treatment centre 663 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,200 decided to take matters into his own hands. 664 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:28,080 {\an8}I wrote to Cipla in India and said 665 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:32,360 {\an8}''Would you please supply us with antiretroviral drugs?'' 666 00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:38,000 I knew where drugs were and as a doctor it was my job 667 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,000 to try and save my patients' lives. 668 00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,160 He ordered the medicines in defiance of patent laws 669 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,040 which still kept generic ARVs out of the country. 670 00:51:58,520 --> 00:51:59,800 At Entebbe Airport, 671 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,800 Ugandan customs officials immediately impounded the medicines 672 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,320 and placed Mugyenyi under arrest. 673 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:09,920 They were restrained by the same laws 674 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,000 that were stopping drugs reaching many other countries. 675 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,920 "Is there a law under which we could let these drugs in to save lives?'' 676 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,400 Something had happened in the United States a few months earlier 677 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,880 which gave Dr. Mugyenyi, reason for hope 678 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:27,080 {\an8}It contained a brown granular substance 679 00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,760 {\an8}that has today tested positive for anthrax. 680 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,520 Now, the employee from NBC... 681 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:37,160 In response to a series of fatal anthrax attacks just after 9/11 682 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:38,960 the US government had cited 683 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,320 a public health emergency as valid legal cause 684 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,760 for suspending the patent on an essential drug called Cipro. 685 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,400 For a moment people in the United States were afraid about 686 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,760 access to medicine, and the patent was perceived 687 00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,040 to be a problem in the United States. 688 00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,160 The United States government basically went to Bayer and said 689 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:01,640 ''If you don't push the price of 690 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,640 Ciprofloxacin-Cipro down immediately we're just going to cancel your patent 691 00:53:05,720 --> 00:53:07,000 and buy generic drugs from India. 692 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:09,200 You know, we have the right to do that.'' 693 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:19,240 But a very different set of rules seemed to apply to African countries 694 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,320 {\an8}which were warned in no uncertain terms that 695 00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:26,200 {\an8}any attempt to suspend patents on life-saving ARVs 696 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,360 {\an8}using the same public health emergency defense 697 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,240 {\an8}would be met with a ferocious response. 698 00:53:34,240 --> 00:53:36,920 {\an8}The United States comes down like a ton of bricks. 699 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:41,040 {\an8}It threatens all kinds of sanctions and says you're violating the WTO. 700 00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:51,360 Back at Entebbe 701 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,320 with Peter Mugyenyi stubbornly refusing to stand down, 702 00:53:55,720 --> 00:53:57,960 the Ugandan authorities finally agreed 703 00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,440 to allow the generic ARVs from India into the country, 704 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,320 gambling that Western governments would ultimately not punish them 705 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:09,920 for taking steps to save their people from dying in unprecedented numbers. 706 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:18,200 The gamble paid off, as generic ARVs started flowing into Uganda 707 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,160 and the blockade of low-cost AIDS drugs for Africa 708 00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,040 was effectively broken. 709 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,600 That was a turning point. 710 00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,960 The numbers that could afford treatment 711 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:37,440 went up tenfold, which is unprecedented. 712 00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,560 The arrival of generic drugs to fight AIDS in Africa 713 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,000 was cause for serious concern to the global pharma companies 714 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:09,040 which perceived any easing of patent restrictions in poor countries 715 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,480 even on humanitarian grounds 716 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:16,240 as a potential threat to their future profits in key Western markets. 717 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,280 I think what they were really worried about 718 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,440 were the political consequences. 719 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,200 {\an8}If Americans saw 720 00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:31,800 {\an8}that they had to pay 10,000 dollars for a year's treatment 721 00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,760 and somebody in another country was paying 150 dollars, 722 00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,120 they would say, ''Why do we have to pay so much?'' 723 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:46,360 There's a very big fear that they would ruin their own business model 724 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,640 {\an8}and I think that is understandable. 725 00:55:50,240 --> 00:55:53,560 {\an8}Drug companies are not there to protect the Third World 726 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,040 {\an8}They're there to make money. Pure and simple, that's it. 727 00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:02,680 Calls for mass treatment of AIDS 728 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,200 in poor countries were growing louder, however 729 00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:09,640 since people now knew low-cost generic ARVs were available 730 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,120 At a special meeting in Africa 731 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,360 United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan 732 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:20,240 announced the international community's long-awaited response. 733 00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,360 I propose the creation of a global fund 734 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:29,160 {\an8}dedicated to the battle against HIV/AIDS 735 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,920 and other infectious diseases. 736 00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,400 The Global Fund was formed in 2002 737 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,760 but it soon became clear that saving lives 738 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,760 was not the only priority. 739 00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,840 {\an8}The US government, the US representative 740 00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,560 {\an8}said that if they bought generic drugs with that money 741 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,120 the US would pull out its commitment. 742 00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:59,120 21 million deaths from AIDS is enough! 743 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,480 We were working with the drug companies 744 00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,520 to make reduced access to medicine. 745 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,480 But suddenly things took an unexpected turn. 746 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,200 With the United States poised to invade Iraq 747 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:20,000 President George W. Bush's 2003 State of the Union address 748 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,160 was to be one of the most closely-watched in history. 749 00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,080 Today, on the continent of Africa 750 00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,720 nearly 30 million people have the AIDS virus. 751 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:37,680 Yet across that continent only fifty thousand AIDS victims... 752 00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:42,680 only fifty thousand are receiving the medicine they need. 753 00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:45,920 Many hospitals tell people 754 00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,480 ''You've got AIDS, go home and die'' 755 00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,080 In an age of miraculous medicines 756 00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,320 no person should have to hear those words. 757 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:01,840 I ask the Congress to commit 758 00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,560 15 billion dollars over the next five years 759 00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,920 to turn the tide against AIDS in the most afflicted nations 760 00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,240 of Africa and the Caribbean. 761 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,880 Peter Mugyenyi had been consulted on the plan. 762 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:24,920 I was right there seated next to the First Lady 763 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,760 and that was the most exhilarating moment 764 00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,880 of my career working in the area of HIV/AIDS. 765 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:38,800 The program, the President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief 766 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:42,400 would come to be known by its acronym, PEPFAR. 767 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:48,000 Antiretroviral drugs can extend life for many years 768 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,120 and the cost of those drugs 769 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,240 has dropped from 12,000 dollars a year 770 00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:56,960 to under 300 dollars a year. 771 00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,480 Seldom has history offered a greater opportunity 772 00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,920 to do so much for so many. 773 00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:09,560 They mentioned the generic price. 774 00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,000 Everyone paid attention to it 775 00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:12,840 because they thought that was really a signal. 776 00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:18,640 Bush appeared to be endorsing the same generic ARVs 777 00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,000 which the US government was battling hard 778 00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,280 in other places to keep out of Africa. 779 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,600 I talked to Mitch Daniels, the head of OMB 780 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,360 the people that do the purse strings for the federal government. 781 00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,760 When the price of AIDS drugs fell to a dollar a day 782 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,800 he felt that they had an obligation to support treatment 783 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:43,320 He also said the entire decision to do treatment through PEPFAR 784 00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,160 was based on the idea that they could buy from Indian suppliers. 785 00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,240 Uncharacteristically, the White House had not consulted 786 00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,600 the powerful US pharma lobby in any significant way 787 00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:56,680 prior to announcing the plan. 788 00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,600 The industry was caught almost completely off-guard 789 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:02,320 but quickly fought back. 790 01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,680 Within days, the administration distanced itself 791 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:09,480 from the 300 dollar generic ARV figure, and appointed 792 01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:13,360 a stalwart Big Pharma insider with no background in public health 793 01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,560 to the newly-created position of AIDS Czar. 794 01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,840 Unfortunately, when people today say 795 01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:27,200 {\an8}"We ought to buy generic AIDS drugs", they're not describing in many cases 796 01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,360 {\an8}what we imagine when we think 797 01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,920 about generic drugs here in the United States. 798 01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:34,920 {\an8}It would be a disaster if we invested... 799 01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:38,960 {\an8}Rather than low-cost generic ARVs, the PEPFAR money 800 01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:42,040 {\an8}would be used to buy high-priced branded drugs 801 01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,720 {\an8}meaning far fewer lives would be saved by the program. 802 01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:05,760 If you ran the numbers there was no way 803 01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:07,320 {\an8}given the available price structure 804 01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,040 {\an8}that all the money they put in the Global Fund 805 01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:10,920 {\an8}and all the money President Bush and Congress 806 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:14,400 {\an8}would give to the American effort was going to be enough to 807 01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,960 {\an8}save the number of people that had to be saved in a hurry. 808 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:25,400 In 2003, the Clinton Foundation began consolidating drug orders 809 01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,280 from numerous governments and aid organisations 810 01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:29,960 to help bring ARV prices 811 01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:34,440 for hard-hit developing countries down to never-before-seen levels. 812 01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,800 It was clear to me that no matter how much money they put in 813 01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,200 it would never be enough unless they can buy generics. 814 01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:50,640 {\an8}We have been partners for three years 815 01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:55,640 and as a result of that partnership an enormous number of people 816 01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,960 are alive today in the world who would not be alive. 817 01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,640 We began with providing... 818 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:06,280 Though many felt Clinton had done a poor job on AIDS as President 819 01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,760 his foundation's high volume ordering of generics 820 01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,480 was critical to bringing prices for ARV treatment in Africa 821 01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,360 down to below 100 dollars per year. 822 01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,200 {\an8}What’s your message to developed countries 823 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,400 who refuse to give low-cost drugs to fight AIDS? 824 01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:28,520 We could be treating three-four times as many people 825 01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,320 without any increase in funds, maybe even more. 826 01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:34,840 So I hope that my visit here will... 827 01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:38,760 Gradually, the ever-growing price difference 828 01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,400 between generic and branded ARVs 829 01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:44,880 and the sheer scale of human tragedy in Africa 830 01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,480 made it impossible for donor programs to continue spending 831 01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,880 vast sums on the far more expensive drugs. 832 01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:56,240 The Global Fund and PEPFAR finally committed themselves 833 01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,360 to buying generic ARVs 834 01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,960 {\an8}and the numbers of people on treatment exploded. 835 01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,560 It was, I can say, a miracle. 836 01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,160 We had dying people. 837 01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,480 Maybe this patient will die tomorrow, this patient will die today 838 01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:22,840 but once they started the antiretrovirals 839 01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,200 I am not lying to you, they survived. 840 01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:31,440 {\an8}You are expecting them to die, but they disappoint you. 841 01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:43,240 When she was a year... Lisa started the ARVs 842 01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:49,960 She started changing... bit by bit, step by step... 843 01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,760 Now she can talk very, very loud 844 01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,120 she's walking, she's a child... 845 01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,040 she's a normal child like the other children. 846 01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:17,000 {\an8}I must admit I was very nervous... very, very nervous... 847 01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:20,960 but the only side effect I experienced 848 01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,240 was the fact I started scrubbing floors. 849 01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:27,400 Nothing else... I could concentrate, I could read 850 01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:32,320 I could work... and it changed, everything changed. 851 01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:39,200 Zackie Achmat had decided to end his boycott of ARVs 852 01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:42,520 once his government committed itself to extending treatment 853 01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:44,720 to all South Africans in need. 854 01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:50,560 Generic ARVs had begun to reach patients on a mass scale 855 01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:55,800 and the impact on people dying of AIDS was swift and dramatic. 856 01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:06,560 After I started on ARVs, I began to feel normal again. 857 01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:14,640 Later I began training to be a bodybuilder. 858 01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:22,720 When I won the Manipur state title in 2007 859 01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:29,640 I disclosed my HIV status publicly the very next day. 860 01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:36,560 For someone who was bedridden and waiting to die 861 01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:41,120 winning the state title felt like touching the sky. 862 01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:56,280 The medicine is giving me a new life. 863 01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:01,160 The doctor told me that 864 01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:04,120 I can live only for two years or something like that 865 01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:05,960 and after that I will die. 866 01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:09,760 Till now I am living, so I am not dying. 867 01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,880 People continue five years out to take 868 01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,040 {\an8}almost a hundred percent of their doses 869 01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:24,600 {\an8}and remain virally suppressed on the same regimen. 870 01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:26,440 {\an8}It's extraordinary. 871 01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:31,240 The so oft-repeated argument that people in poor countries 872 01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:35,120 would not be able to faithfully follow the drug regimens 873 01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:37,400 was to be proven completely wrong. 874 01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:43,040 A lot of journalists asked us, "Are you sure about your data? 875 01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:44,200 {\an8}Are you not...?" 876 01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:47,000 {\an8}They were suggesting that we were 'cooking' the data 877 01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:51,360 {\an8}because they were actually better than in the Western world 878 01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:53,680 which was unbelievable! 879 01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,960 There was this sort of incredible fierce determination 880 01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:06,200 to show that in fact not only was it feasible 881 01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:09,160 but we could do it better than many parts of the world. 882 01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:18,120 I always remind them, what was happening before 883 01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,840 when we didn’t have the ARVs... 884 01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:41,240 I wanted to show that people like us 885 01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:45,440 are just as good as any other human being. 886 01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:49,080 Thank you Mr. K. N. Pradip Kumar Singh of Manipur. 887 01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:51,480 Tag number eight... Thank you very much. 888 01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:55,440 And the 55 kg category is in the favour of bodybuilder 889 01:07:55,560 --> 01:08:00,640 from Manipur, Mr. K. N. Pradip Kumar Singh, tag number eight. 890 01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:15,280 I want to dedicate this to my mother. 891 01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:31,399 With low cost generic ARVs now saving millions of lives 892 01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:34,120 in the developing world, many believed that 893 01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:36,479 better access to all types of medicine 894 01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:39,000 for the world's poor would soon follow. 895 01:08:40,399 --> 01:08:44,880 The drug companies, however, had no intention of giving up so easily. 896 01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:50,880 Seeing a threat to its monopoly system on the horizon 897 01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:55,040 the global pharma industry had already mobilised Western governments 898 01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:57,240 led by the United States 899 01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:01,560 to use the World Trade Organization, or WTO 900 01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:04,200 as a vehicle to force developing countries 901 01:09:04,319 --> 01:09:08,160 into adopting strict Western-style patents on medicine. 902 01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:13,760 {\an8}The protocol they used to do this is known as the TRIPS Agreement. 903 01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:18,960 {\an8}The international trade agreement that was called TRIPS 904 01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:21,359 {\an8}'Trade Related Intellectual Property' 905 01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,279 {\an8}It was an agreement that was 906 01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:26,720 {\an8}for the interests of the advanced industrial countries 907 01:09:27,399 --> 01:09:29,120 {\an8}for the pharmaceutical industry 908 01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:34,920 but did not reflect the interests of those in developing countries. 909 01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:46,880 TRIPS effectively took control of drug patents 910 01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:50,359 out of the hands of national governments in the developing world 911 01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:52,080 and put it into those of 912 01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:55,000 the Western-controlled World Trade Organization 913 01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:57,800 which has draconian powers to punish countries 914 01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:00,040 it views as stepping out of line. 915 01:10:01,480 --> 01:10:05,000 This was widely seen as a direct attack on Third World generics 916 01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:07,880 by the powerful global drug industry. 917 01:10:09,480 --> 01:10:12,400 The drug companies wanted to prevent South Africa 918 01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,400 from making medicines affordable because 919 01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,720 they had the 'domino effect' in mind. 920 01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:20,600 {\an8}South Africa goes, India goes, Brazil goes 921 01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:24,200 {\an8}Thailand goes, Argentina goes, and so on 922 01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:27,400 {\an8}and then of course what about the United States? 923 01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:31,600 Which is their biggest market, the biggest market of them all 924 01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:33,520 because United States consumers 925 01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:38,360 have exactly the same sort of brains that we have... in the end. 926 01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:46,720 When the trade negotiators signed the agreement 927 01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:50,440 to make access to medicine more difficult 928 01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:52,520 they were signing the death warrants 929 01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:55,680 for thousands of people in the developing countries. 930 01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:58,120 That's not where they were focusing, they were celebrating 931 01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:02,400 but in fact that was what they were doing. 932 01:11:07,440 --> 01:11:10,400 And they knocked out what was the dream of the world 933 01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:12,080 which was the Indian system. 934 01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:19,880 The drug companies might have lost a battle over AIDS drugs 935 01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:22,520 but with TRIPS, they won the war. 936 01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,480 Facing the full force of the WTO 937 01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:30,320 India and other key developing countries lost the legal ability 938 01:11:30,440 --> 01:11:33,800 to make low-cost generic versions of newer drugs 939 01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:37,200 and the consequences for billions of people 940 01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:40,920 living in the global south are potentially catastrophic. 941 01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:46,000 {\an8}So for the next generation of drugs, needed drugs 942 01:11:46,440 --> 01:11:49,360 {\an8}which people desperately need to stay alive 943 01:11:49,480 --> 01:11:51,840 {\an8}they're not going to be there except at the high prices. 944 01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:58,440 What is likely to happen? 945 01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:00,680 People are going to die. 946 01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:03,520 To me, that is genocide. 947 01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:11,080 India has gone into the system of 948 01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:12,360 {\an8}patenting in health 949 01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:14,800 {\an8}which I don't think is a good system 950 01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:17,760 {\an8}but they had no alternative to accepting. 951 01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:23,080 In the area of pharmaceuticals 952 01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:25,840 and particularly in the area of life-saving drugs 953 01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:29,480 {\an8}if you can't get the right to that drug, your citizens die 954 01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:32,280 {\an8}and forcing a country to sign a law 955 01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:34,520 {\an8}that says, "Ok, we'll let our citizens die 956 01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:36,240 so you can keep your patent monopolies 957 01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:38,960 and your prices up"3 seems to be amoral. 958 01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:02,200 When we had under a dollar a day, it was symbolic. 959 01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:03,640 We are now at one-third of it. 960 01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:09,600 The question is will these future drugs remain cheap? 961 01:13:15,480 --> 01:13:18,840 Since the early 1970s, India has supplied 962 01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:21,560 low-cost medicine to the developing world. 963 01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:25,880 But this lifeline to billions of the world's poorest people is 964 01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:30,120 being severed as the TRIPS patent provisions take hold, 965 01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:34,480 with no alternative source of affordable medicine anywhere in sight. 966 01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:39,360 {\an8}They have us as their hostages. 967 01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:44,680 {\an8}If we face an emergency here in Africa we shall die 968 01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:48,000 because the laws don't protect us. 969 01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:56,200 Lack of access to medicine 970 01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:59,280 increasingly affects people in Western countries as well. 971 01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:02,880 Almost half of all Americans now say that 972 01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:05,640 they are unable to afford their prescription drugs 973 01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:08,840 a number which grows with each passing year. 974 01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:15,400 {\an8}In the US, to stay healthy and well and not die 975 01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,080 {\an8}is not a basic human right 976 01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:20,560 {\an8}and that's why we have the system we do have here. 977 01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:26,400 The companies can't continue to take the position 978 01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:28,280 ''Ah, they're just Africans, let them die'' 979 01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:30,360 and it's going to be even harder for them to take the position 980 01:14:30,480 --> 01:14:32,520 ''Ah, they're just old Americans, let them die...'' 981 01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:40,480 There isn't a single state that could continue providing healthcare 982 01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:44,760 {\an8}at the levels and cost that exists because of drug company 983 01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:46,840 {\an8}and health technology company profiteering. 984 01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:48,880 {\an8}So the problem is not going to go away. 985 01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:53,640 {\an8}Whether it's General Motors running bankrupt 986 01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:55,640 because they can't afford their healthcare bill 987 01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:57,600 or whether it's people who need the medicine 988 01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:01,480 who will form a most unusual alliance 989 01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:05,840 to either force change or to end the system as we know it. 990 01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:12,200 It is often argued that the global drug companies 991 01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:15,440 fought low-cost AIDS medication in poor countries 992 01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:17,520 because they feared it might force down 993 01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:19,960 prices for their own products in the West. 994 01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:25,400 But this fear proved totally unjustified. 995 01:15:26,480 --> 01:15:29,240 Even as ARV prices in Africa and the global south 996 01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:30,960 were continuously falling 997 01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:35,200 prices in the United States remained virtually unchanged. 998 01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:50,640 The drug industry has acted based on the financial incentives that they have 999 01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:53,560 that we have set up in the Western world. 1000 01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:55,720 I mean, we're all responsible for this in a way. 1001 01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,760 We need to do some things here to make sure 1002 01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:03,880 we're not just killing off millions of people 1003 01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:06,640 because of a lack of access to drugs 1004 01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:13,600 At the beginning of the millennium perhaps eight thousand people 1005 01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:17,480 with HIV in Africa had access to life saving drugs. 1006 01:16:18,480 --> 01:16:21,040 Just over a decade later the number on treatment 1007 01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:24,280 in developing countries would pass 8 million 1008 01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:28,240 virtually all of them taking generic ARVs from India. 1009 01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:35,320 In the years after antiretroviral therapy was proven effective however 1010 01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,480 it is estimated that ten million or more people 1011 01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:41,520 in the global south died of AIDS, 1012 01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:44,840 because Western drug companies and governments denied them 1013 01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:48,320 access to affordable and available medication. 1014 01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:52,760 It's devastated countries... 1015 01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:56,040 it's become a major foreign policy problem... 1016 01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:58,400 it's become a military problem... 1017 01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:02,320 and the medicines are there and they are affordable. 1018 01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:06,160 It's under a hundred dollars a year now. 1019 01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:09,280 {\an8}So there we are, and I... 1020 01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:14,400 {\an8}you know, to tell you the truth I have dreams... 1021 01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:19,120 Cut it for a minute. 1022 01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:23,000 {\an8}All those people who had the power to stop it 1023 01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:24,920 {\an8}including drug company executives 1024 01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:27,800 {\an8}are responsible for all those deaths... 1025 01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:33,600 of lives that could have been saved between 1996 and 2003 1026 01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:39,520 and the rich world didn't care until poor people mobilised. 1027 01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:49,520 "You fight our patent monopolies, we will make sure you die!" 1028 01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:52,080 I mean, that was their attitude. 1029 01:17:57,480 --> 01:18:00,360 We have discovered so many things in the world 1030 01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:03,800 and we cannot fail to discover 1031 01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:06,720 a formula where business 1032 01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:10,960 can continue and prosper, and poor people 1033 01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:13,880 don't have to pay the price with their lives. 1034 01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:24,040 As long as there are monopolies on medicine 1035 01:18:24,480 --> 01:18:28,400 millions of people will continue to die needlessly every year. 1036 01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:32,160 With life-saving drugs priced out of their reach 1037 01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:36,120 most of those saved by generic ARVs 1038 01:18:36,440 --> 01:18:40,480 will eventually need newer second and third line drugs to survive. 1039 01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:44,320 But with TRIPS and ever harsher patent measures ensuring that 1040 01:18:44,440 --> 01:18:46,960 few of these can be made in generic form 1041 01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:50,640 millions now living healthy and productive lives 1042 01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:54,080 will again face death for lack of available medicine. 1043 01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:58,080 When it became a life or death question 1044 01:18:58,480 --> 01:19:03,280 it's obvious that the whole TRIPS system is going to have to be amended 1045 01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:09,560 so that we don't have these fights that cause people to die 1046 01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:11,480 we can never let this happen again. 1047 01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:16,640 People have to figure out that they don't have to accept 1048 01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:21,440 a pessimistic, crappy future. They can change things. 1049 01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:25,400 You can change things, I can change things, we can change things. 1050 01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:33,320 We have made the mightiest industry in the world shake in its boots! 1051 01:19:47,440 --> 01:19:52,200 Clearly, once you have a system that appeared to work first 1052 01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:56,960 but then all of a sudden excludes millions of people in the US... 1053 01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:00,920 maybe billions of people around the whole globe, 1054 01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:02,760 you should sit back and ask yourself 1055 01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:04,360 "Well, does this really make sense 1056 01:20:04,480 --> 01:20:06,840 or do we have to change something or tweak something here?" 1057 01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:09,840 And then you get into the trouble of, why would anybody 1058 01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:13,040 who is benefitting from this system want to change or tweak it? 1059 01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:15,560 None of the people who make money off of it 1060 01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:19,520 none of the people who derive power out of it want to change it. 1061 01:20:21,480 --> 01:20:23,440 But again, if you have enough pressure 1062 01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:26,880 if things get bad enough, people do change... 1063 01:20:27,440 --> 01:20:30,120 and I guess this film is part of that. 94739

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