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Come on, let me in. 4 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:30,204 I'm using my spare, 5 00:00:30,247 --> 00:00:32,597 so if you're in the john, close the damn door. 6 00:00:36,775 --> 00:00:39,300 Yo, Ryan. 7 00:00:39,343 --> 00:00:42,172 I saw the poster you called me about. 8 00:00:44,522 --> 00:00:46,524 Yo, Ry. 9 00:00:50,659 --> 00:00:53,183 Ryan, where you at?[water running softly] 10 00:00:53,227 --> 00:00:55,925 Ryan, you okay? 11 00:01:01,583 --> 00:01:03,585 You in there? 12 00:01:04,586 --> 00:01:06,501 I'm coming in. 13 00:01:20,471 --> 00:01:22,560 Bull, he's an old friend, a really old friend, 14 00:01:22,604 --> 00:01:23,909 so I need you to be nice. 15 00:01:23,953 --> 00:01:25,085 How long since you've seen him? 16 00:01:25,128 --> 00:01:27,261 I don't know. Seven or eight years? 17 00:01:28,610 --> 00:01:30,742 You haven't seen him in seven or eight years? 18 00:01:32,353 --> 00:01:35,225 What's this casual acquaintance's name again? 19 00:01:35,269 --> 00:01:37,227 Stephen. Stephen Raposa. 20 00:01:37,271 --> 00:01:38,315 And Bull, I am pleading with you, 21 00:01:38,359 --> 00:01:39,664 he just lost his younger brother, 22 00:01:39,708 --> 00:01:42,841 so he's really, really fragile. 23 00:01:42,885 --> 00:01:44,843 Are you folks familiar with the Back to Nature Wilderness 24 00:01:44,887 --> 00:01:47,150 and Leadership Camp for Boys? 25 00:01:47,194 --> 00:01:49,631 Of course. It's a New York institution. 26 00:01:49,674 --> 00:01:53,243 Peter Maybrook started it, when, the early '90s? 27 00:01:53,287 --> 00:01:54,418 BENNY: Right. 28 00:01:54,462 --> 00:01:56,116 Peter Maybrook. 29 00:01:56,159 --> 00:01:57,943 Made that that fortune with the chain 30 00:01:57,987 --> 00:02:01,121 of upscale sporting goods stores. 31 00:02:01,164 --> 00:02:02,774 Back to Nature. 32 00:02:02,818 --> 00:02:05,168 Now, I knew some kids who went for free. They loved it. 33 00:02:05,212 --> 00:02:07,214 Oh, me, too. Kids from foster care. 34 00:02:07,257 --> 00:02:09,172 I mean, that was his thing, wasn't it? 35 00:02:09,216 --> 00:02:12,784 Paying for at-risk boys to get out of the city and into nature? 36 00:02:12,828 --> 00:02:14,960 My brother and I went to that camp. 37 00:02:15,004 --> 00:02:19,139 I understand you recently lost your brother. 38 00:02:19,182 --> 00:02:22,185 Yeah, he took his own life, actually. 39 00:02:22,229 --> 00:02:27,103 He simultaneously overdosed and slit his wrists. 40 00:02:30,715 --> 00:02:33,153 He told me it was Maybrook. 41 00:02:33,196 --> 00:02:35,503 I'm sorry. What was Maybrook? 42 00:02:35,546 --> 00:02:38,680 He took liberties with my brother. 43 00:02:38,723 --> 00:02:41,378 While he was at that camp. 44 00:02:41,422 --> 00:02:43,380 When he was only 13. 45 00:02:43,424 --> 00:02:45,730 I see. 46 00:02:45,774 --> 00:02:49,865 So you're accusing Peter Maybrook of abuse. 47 00:02:49,908 --> 00:02:51,736 Yes, sir. 48 00:02:51,780 --> 00:02:53,782 And did your brother go to the police? 49 00:02:53,825 --> 00:02:55,436 He did. 50 00:02:55,479 --> 00:02:58,787 He waited ten years, but he did it. 51 00:02:58,830 --> 00:03:01,050 And of course, they didn't believe him. 52 00:03:01,093 --> 00:03:03,052 By then, he was a full-blown addict 53 00:03:03,095 --> 00:03:05,707 and you know, addicts lie. 54 00:03:05,750 --> 00:03:09,972 And he had a-a bit of a record. 55 00:03:10,015 --> 00:03:14,585 And Maybrook, Maybrook's a-a god in this town. 56 00:03:14,629 --> 00:03:16,065 And this happened, when, 15 years ago? 57 00:03:16,108 --> 00:03:17,980 Yeah, something like that. 58 00:03:18,023 --> 00:03:20,722 And when the police wouldn't do anything, 59 00:03:20,765 --> 00:03:22,245 it drove Ryan even crazier. 60 00:03:22,289 --> 00:03:24,552 He broke into Maybrook's estate, 61 00:03:24,595 --> 00:03:26,380 he stole everything he could get his hands on. 62 00:03:26,423 --> 00:03:27,903 He was coked out of his mind. 63 00:03:27,946 --> 00:03:29,252 BENNY: Wow. I-- Stephen, 64 00:03:29,296 --> 00:03:30,906 you never told me any of this. 65 00:03:30,949 --> 00:03:34,083 And you're seeking legal counsel because...? 66 00:03:35,737 --> 00:03:38,218 I want to sue. 67 00:03:38,261 --> 00:03:40,132 I want to sue Maybrook. I-I read in the paper 68 00:03:40,176 --> 00:03:42,744 about this new law that New York just passed. 69 00:03:42,787 --> 00:03:45,094 The Child Victims Act.That's right. 70 00:03:45,137 --> 00:03:46,226 Because there's this new law, 71 00:03:46,269 --> 00:03:48,271 there's no statute of limitations. 72 00:03:48,315 --> 00:03:52,144 Well, it's not that there's no statute of limitations. 73 00:03:52,188 --> 00:03:54,408 What they've done is, for one year only, 74 00:03:54,451 --> 00:03:58,281 instituted something called a "lookback window." 75 00:03:58,325 --> 00:04:02,590 Any victim of child sexual abuse can sue 76 00:04:02,633 --> 00:04:05,114 no matter how long ago the abuse happened. 77 00:04:05,157 --> 00:04:06,376 Well, there you go. 78 00:04:06,420 --> 00:04:08,335 BENNY: Uh, the problem is, Mr. Raposa, 79 00:04:08,378 --> 00:04:10,859 I don't think that law applies to you. 80 00:04:10,902 --> 00:04:12,687 Your brother is deceased. 81 00:04:12,730 --> 00:04:15,864 That means we have no standing to sue on his behalf. 82 00:04:15,907 --> 00:04:18,997 Statute of limitations or no statute of limitations. 83 00:04:19,041 --> 00:04:21,783 And there's no, there's no work-around for that? 84 00:04:21,826 --> 00:04:24,612 No. Not really. 85 00:04:24,655 --> 00:04:27,136 I'm so sorry, Stephen. 86 00:04:27,179 --> 00:04:29,138 So sorry for all of it. 87 00:04:29,181 --> 00:04:34,448 For not seeing you for so long, for us not being able to help. 88 00:04:34,491 --> 00:04:36,841 Will you call me if there's anything else you need? 89 00:04:36,885 --> 00:04:39,540 Help with funeral arrangements, 90 00:04:39,583 --> 00:04:41,542 anything. 91 00:04:46,590 --> 00:04:48,505 Talk to me. 92 00:04:48,549 --> 00:04:50,464 So I get that we can't sue for Ryan. 93 00:04:50,507 --> 00:04:54,032 Ryan's gone, so we have no standing. 94 00:04:56,731 --> 00:04:58,776 But what about me? 95 00:04:59,821 --> 00:05:01,866 I'm sorry, w-what? 96 00:05:03,694 --> 00:05:05,043 Me. 97 00:05:07,394 --> 00:05:09,657 The man molested me, too. 98 00:05:09,700 --> 00:05:12,181 So what about me? 99 00:05:12,224 --> 00:05:15,140 Can we sue on my behalf? 100 00:05:15,184 --> 00:05:17,186 ♪ 101 00:05:23,627 --> 00:05:24,759 You okay if I...? Sure. 102 00:05:24,802 --> 00:05:27,283 [beeps] 103 00:05:27,327 --> 00:05:29,590 Thanks for coming in so early. 104 00:05:29,633 --> 00:05:32,332 It's just easier for me to focus on you 105 00:05:32,375 --> 00:05:34,856 and your story before the chaos starts. 106 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,862 So, let's begin at the beginning. 107 00:05:40,905 --> 00:05:42,864 How old were you when Peter Maybrook 108 00:05:42,907 --> 00:05:44,953 initiated physical contact? 109 00:05:44,996 --> 00:05:49,436 I was 14. It was the last summer I spent at that camp. 110 00:05:49,479 --> 00:05:52,395 So, let's talk about that summer. 111 00:05:53,918 --> 00:05:58,532 I'm sorry, it's just, for 24 years, I never talked about it. 112 00:05:58,575 --> 00:06:01,404 I never wanted to. Still don't want to. 113 00:06:01,448 --> 00:06:03,275 It's completely understandable. 114 00:06:03,319 --> 00:06:06,453 But you're gonna have to tell the story in front of a jury. 115 00:06:06,496 --> 00:06:10,152 And the best way to prepare for that is here. 116 00:06:12,459 --> 00:06:15,418 Like I said, it was my last summer at that camp. 117 00:06:15,462 --> 00:06:19,770 And they made me a cabin captain. 118 00:06:19,814 --> 00:06:22,033 That was a big honor, it was a big deal. 119 00:06:22,077 --> 00:06:23,426 They only picked 12 boys. 120 00:06:23,470 --> 00:06:26,995 And it meant you got to spend time with Maybrook. 121 00:06:27,038 --> 00:06:29,171 And that was considered a perk? 122 00:06:29,214 --> 00:06:31,216 Oh, yeah. Maybrook, he was, 123 00:06:31,260 --> 00:06:32,566 he was the coolest guy on the planet. 124 00:06:32,609 --> 00:06:34,437 He drove a Mustang, he listened to Aerosmith. 125 00:06:34,481 --> 00:06:37,266 He grew up poor like us but now he was rich. 126 00:06:37,309 --> 00:06:41,052 And being a cabin leader meant he knew your name. 127 00:06:41,096 --> 00:06:42,880 It meant you got to go to this special dinner 128 00:06:42,924 --> 00:06:44,534 at his estate near the camp. 129 00:06:44,578 --> 00:06:47,102 And was that the first time you were alone with him? 130 00:06:47,145 --> 00:06:48,669 At the dinner?No. 131 00:06:48,712 --> 00:06:51,367 No, all 12 of us were there that night. 132 00:06:51,411 --> 00:06:56,198 But a few nights later, his assistant, Lydia, 133 00:06:56,241 --> 00:07:00,028 she came to me and she told me that Maybrook wanted to see me. 134 00:07:00,071 --> 00:07:01,203 Just me. 135 00:07:01,246 --> 00:07:03,858 I was so damn excited. 136 00:07:03,901 --> 00:07:07,905 So that night, did anything happen? 137 00:07:07,949 --> 00:07:10,081 Not really. 138 00:07:10,125 --> 00:07:12,736 We watched TV, we talked. 139 00:07:12,780 --> 00:07:14,738 I told him things that I'd never told anyone, 140 00:07:14,782 --> 00:07:18,655 how my dad left, how I took care of my little brother 141 00:07:18,699 --> 00:07:21,745 because my mom was always working. 142 00:07:21,789 --> 00:07:25,488 It sounds like you felt very safe. 143 00:07:25,532 --> 00:07:27,664 Yeah. Very safe. 144 00:07:29,013 --> 00:07:30,493 Then a few nights later, 145 00:07:30,537 --> 00:07:33,540 he invited me back, and then again the following week. 146 00:07:33,583 --> 00:07:35,542 And that was the, that was the first time 147 00:07:35,585 --> 00:07:38,719 I ever saw him drinking. 148 00:07:38,762 --> 00:07:41,809 He was drinking brandy, and he offered me a taste 149 00:07:41,852 --> 00:07:45,203 and it made me feel really cool. 150 00:07:46,248 --> 00:07:48,555 And when did the touching start? 151 00:07:48,598 --> 00:07:50,905 It was gradual. 152 00:07:50,948 --> 00:07:52,515 He kind of snuck up on it, you know? 153 00:07:52,559 --> 00:07:56,040 We'd be talking, and he'd touch my leg or my shoulder. 154 00:07:58,695 --> 00:08:03,308 And then, one night... [clears throat] 155 00:08:03,352 --> 00:08:06,137 ...he asked me if I wanted to shower. 156 00:08:06,181 --> 00:08:11,099 Our cabins didn't usually have much hot water, 157 00:08:11,142 --> 00:08:14,450 but his shower, 158 00:08:14,494 --> 00:08:19,150 he'd turn it on and you'd see the steam. 159 00:08:21,413 --> 00:08:24,504 Did he get in the shower with you? 160 00:08:24,547 --> 00:08:27,028 Yeah. 161 00:08:27,071 --> 00:08:29,030 He got close. 162 00:08:29,073 --> 00:08:31,685 And then, the next thing I knew, he was touching me. 163 00:08:31,728 --> 00:08:33,208 Wanting me to touch him. 164 00:08:33,251 --> 00:08:34,688 [sniffles] 165 00:08:34,731 --> 00:08:40,258 But I didn't want to, so he-he kind of got behind me. 166 00:08:42,260 --> 00:08:44,567 Forced himself on me. 167 00:08:46,613 --> 00:08:48,440 [exhales] 168 00:08:48,484 --> 00:08:51,792 And I wanted to stop him, 169 00:08:51,835 --> 00:08:54,490 but he was a lot bigger than me, 170 00:08:54,534 --> 00:08:58,363 and I felt like I couldn't move. 171 00:09:01,192 --> 00:09:02,977 And I don't really remember the rest. 172 00:09:03,020 --> 00:09:06,197 It's kind of like my mind left my body. 173 00:09:08,852 --> 00:09:14,031 Although I do remember counting the tiles. 174 00:09:16,077 --> 00:09:18,035 182. 175 00:09:19,123 --> 00:09:21,648 Did you ever tell anyone about this? 176 00:09:21,691 --> 00:09:23,650 No. 177 00:09:23,693 --> 00:09:27,741 I think I kind of thought it was my fault. 178 00:09:27,784 --> 00:09:31,440 Like, if I'd never taken that brandy 179 00:09:31,483 --> 00:09:35,705 or if I said something the first time he touched my leg... 180 00:09:38,578 --> 00:09:41,885 And then, two years later, 181 00:09:41,929 --> 00:09:45,280 m-my mom sent Ryan to that camp. 182 00:09:48,979 --> 00:09:51,591 I still never said a word. 183 00:09:52,940 --> 00:09:54,898 MARISSA: My last big project at Homeland 184 00:09:54,942 --> 00:09:59,033 was coordinating logistics after Hurricane Sandy. 185 00:09:59,076 --> 00:10:02,384 They actually pulled a bunch of us from counterterrorism 186 00:10:02,427 --> 00:10:03,864 to work with the National Guard. 187 00:10:03,907 --> 00:10:05,866 Stephen was a sergeant. 188 00:10:05,909 --> 00:10:08,303 He was in charge of a team of Army mechanics. 189 00:10:08,346 --> 00:10:10,044 Wreckage everyone else said was too dangerous, 190 00:10:10,087 --> 00:10:11,872 Stephen found a way to search it. 191 00:10:11,915 --> 00:10:13,308 Pretty amazing guy. 192 00:10:13,351 --> 00:10:16,137 And you two became friends? 193 00:10:16,180 --> 00:10:17,529 More like war buddies. 194 00:10:17,573 --> 00:10:19,444 I was going through my first divorce, 195 00:10:19,488 --> 00:10:22,056 he was going through one of his own. 196 00:10:22,099 --> 00:10:25,668 Neither one of us was really looking for a new friend. 197 00:10:25,712 --> 00:10:28,279 But like war buddies, we always stayed in touch. 198 00:10:28,323 --> 00:10:31,152 Well, for what it's worth, I did a little background check 199 00:10:31,195 --> 00:10:32,675 on your friend. 200 00:10:32,719 --> 00:10:34,764 And I have to say, he doesn't read 201 00:10:34,808 --> 00:10:37,071 like a trauma survivor at all. 202 00:10:37,114 --> 00:10:39,769 Near as I can tell, he doesn't have any issues with alcohol, 203 00:10:39,813 --> 00:10:42,119 drugs, anger management. 204 00:10:42,163 --> 00:10:45,296 He passed all his Army mental health reviews. 205 00:10:45,340 --> 00:10:48,735 Which brings me to the ugly question of the day. 206 00:10:48,778 --> 00:10:50,911 You think he was actually molested? 207 00:10:50,954 --> 00:10:52,521 Excuse me? 208 00:10:52,564 --> 00:10:56,438 I'm just saying, he never mentioned it to anyone 209 00:10:56,481 --> 00:10:58,701 until yesterday when we told him that he couldn't sue 210 00:10:58,745 --> 00:11:00,964 on his brother's behalf, 211 00:11:01,008 --> 00:11:04,054 and then out of the blue, "Well, it happened to me, too." 212 00:11:04,098 --> 00:11:07,405 No. Bull spent time with him this morning, 213 00:11:07,449 --> 00:11:08,885 and he is 100% on board. 214 00:11:08,929 --> 00:11:10,844 CHUNK: Well, I defer 215 00:11:10,887 --> 00:11:13,455 to the man with all the doctorates. 216 00:11:13,498 --> 00:11:14,891 He have a plan? 217 00:11:14,935 --> 00:11:19,635 He thinks our best bet-- our only bet-- 218 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,203 is to establish a pattern of conduct. 219 00:11:22,246 --> 00:11:24,727 He need us to go through old camp records 220 00:11:24,771 --> 00:11:27,077 and reach out to former campers 221 00:11:27,121 --> 00:11:29,993 with profiles that are similar to Ryan's and Stephen's 222 00:11:30,037 --> 00:11:32,126 and see if any of them are willing 223 00:11:32,169 --> 00:11:34,128 to come forward and testify. 224 00:11:34,171 --> 00:11:35,999 After spending almost a quarter of a century 225 00:11:36,043 --> 00:11:38,262 not telling anybody, 226 00:11:38,306 --> 00:11:41,613 yeah, that sounds like an easy sell. 227 00:11:43,572 --> 00:11:45,095 Well, we split up the potential witness lists. 228 00:11:45,139 --> 00:11:47,228 And I've been reaching out to former camp staffers. 229 00:11:47,271 --> 00:11:48,751 The thing is, everyone I talked to 230 00:11:48,795 --> 00:11:51,275 had nothing but nice things to say about Maybrook. 231 00:11:51,319 --> 00:11:54,278 Turns out he had an unwritten policy, 232 00:11:54,322 --> 00:11:55,758 not a single seasonal employee 233 00:11:55,802 --> 00:11:57,629 was brought back from one year to the next. 234 00:11:57,673 --> 00:11:58,979 BULL: Makes sense. 235 00:11:59,022 --> 00:12:01,111 That way no one would've been around long enough 236 00:12:01,155 --> 00:12:03,592 to suspect him of bad behavior. 237 00:12:03,635 --> 00:12:06,551 As it turns out, the only adult who was there year in, year out 238 00:12:06,595 --> 00:12:08,858 was Maybrook's assistant Lydia, 239 00:12:08,902 --> 00:12:10,686 who I had the pleasure of speaking to. 240 00:12:10,730 --> 00:12:12,906 And let me guess, she wouldn't talk to you? 241 00:12:12,949 --> 00:12:14,342 Oh, she talked. 242 00:12:14,385 --> 00:12:16,300 Told me she worked for him for almost two decades, 243 00:12:16,344 --> 00:12:18,215 told me she worshipped the ground he walked on, 244 00:12:18,259 --> 00:12:19,913 told me I should be ashamed of myself, 245 00:12:19,956 --> 00:12:21,479 and then she hung up on me. 246 00:12:21,523 --> 00:12:23,525 Yeah, that sounds about right. 247 00:12:23,568 --> 00:12:26,528 Chunk and I spent the day reaching out to former campers. 248 00:12:26,571 --> 00:12:27,790 Oh, how did that go? 249 00:12:27,834 --> 00:12:30,184 Well, we focused primarily on cabin leaders, 250 00:12:30,227 --> 00:12:32,316 ones without strong family support systems, 251 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,102 kids who, on paper, looked to be attractive targets 252 00:12:35,145 --> 00:12:37,234 for Maybrook and bore some physical similarity 253 00:12:37,278 --> 00:12:38,496 to the Raposa brothers. 254 00:12:38,540 --> 00:12:39,628 And? 255 00:12:39,671 --> 00:12:41,064 And it turns out, 256 00:12:41,108 --> 00:12:43,110 asking people to dredge up a painful past 257 00:12:43,153 --> 00:12:44,459 doesn't make you very popular. 258 00:12:44,502 --> 00:12:45,808 CHUNK: I mean, there were definitely 259 00:12:45,852 --> 00:12:48,680 people who had nothing but wonderful things to say, 260 00:12:48,724 --> 00:12:50,595 and then there were others. 261 00:12:50,639 --> 00:12:52,815 I had a couple of doors slammed in my face, 262 00:12:52,859 --> 00:12:54,338 people cursing me out, 263 00:12:54,382 --> 00:12:57,689 saying, "How dare you come here asking questions like that?" 264 00:12:57,733 --> 00:13:00,997 And I got to say, it's hard to know if their indignation 265 00:13:01,041 --> 00:13:03,957 was righteous, or if they were people 266 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,176 who just didn't want to remember, 267 00:13:06,220 --> 00:13:08,091 didn't want to be reminded. 268 00:13:08,135 --> 00:13:10,790 My guess would be a little bit of both.BENNY: That's great. 269 00:13:10,833 --> 00:13:13,401 So the response prove, or at least suggest, 270 00:13:13,444 --> 00:13:14,837 this guy is guilty, 271 00:13:14,881 --> 00:13:16,752 but we have no one besides our client 272 00:13:16,796 --> 00:13:19,755 that will get up there and say that to the jury. 273 00:13:19,799 --> 00:13:22,889 Well, I didn't say no one. 274 00:13:22,932 --> 00:13:24,412 Alan Coleman 275 00:13:24,455 --> 00:13:27,458 went to the camp a few years after Ryan and Stephen. 276 00:13:27,502 --> 00:13:29,417 He's, uh, an architect in New Jersey. 277 00:13:29,460 --> 00:13:31,201 Didn't want to talk on the phone, 278 00:13:31,245 --> 00:13:33,725 but he implied he had a story to tell. 279 00:13:33,769 --> 00:13:37,251 Well, that's a beginning. 280 00:13:39,122 --> 00:13:41,733 Uh, I remember we watched 281 00:13:41,777 --> 00:13:45,302 the 1996 Summer Olympics earlier that night. 282 00:13:45,346 --> 00:13:47,565 Michael Johnson won both the 283 00:13:47,609 --> 00:13:51,613 200 meter and the 400 meter sprint, and we both thought 284 00:13:51,656 --> 00:13:53,702 it was great and kind of funny 285 00:13:53,745 --> 00:13:56,879 because he was wearing these golden shoes. 286 00:13:56,923 --> 00:13:59,055 Gold medal. Gold shoes. 287 00:13:59,099 --> 00:14:01,318 We laughed about it a lot. 288 00:14:01,362 --> 00:14:04,539 And then, uh, an hour later, 289 00:14:04,582 --> 00:14:07,237 I was standing in the shower, 290 00:14:07,281 --> 00:14:11,067 my face to the wall, 291 00:14:11,111 --> 00:14:13,940 wishing that I had these golden shoes, 292 00:14:13,983 --> 00:14:18,335 wishing that I had these shoes so that I could run away. 293 00:14:19,902 --> 00:14:22,296 Plus, I heard that 294 00:14:22,339 --> 00:14:23,993 he was working with kids again. 295 00:14:24,037 --> 00:14:26,082 BENNY: Mr. Raposa, 296 00:14:26,126 --> 00:14:30,173 given everything you've described, 297 00:14:30,217 --> 00:14:32,915 everything you testified to, 298 00:14:32,959 --> 00:14:36,832 why'd you keep it all to yourself all these years? 299 00:14:36,876 --> 00:14:38,268 If that man 300 00:14:38,312 --> 00:14:41,706 did all the terrible things you just testified to, 301 00:14:41,750 --> 00:14:43,360 why not expose him? 302 00:14:43,404 --> 00:14:45,493 My brother Ryan tried. 303 00:14:45,536 --> 00:14:49,497 He told the truth over and over. He went to the authorities. 304 00:14:49,540 --> 00:14:51,194 He went to anybody who would listen, 305 00:14:51,238 --> 00:14:52,674 and a lot of people who wouldn't, 306 00:14:52,717 --> 00:14:56,460 but nothing changed, and it ruined his life. 307 00:14:56,504 --> 00:14:59,159 So if you didn't talk to anybody, 308 00:14:59,202 --> 00:15:02,945 didn't go the authorities, didn't seek out therapy, 309 00:15:02,989 --> 00:15:04,294 what did you do? 310 00:15:04,338 --> 00:15:07,297 I handled it in my own way, I guess. 311 00:15:07,341 --> 00:15:09,821 I bulked up, I joined the army right out of high school. 312 00:15:09,865 --> 00:15:12,476 I-I figured if I could make myself a-a tough guy, 313 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:16,132 nobody would ever take advantage of me again. 314 00:15:16,176 --> 00:15:20,920 I got out of the service, I... 315 00:15:20,963 --> 00:15:25,185 married a wonderful woman, bought a little house. 316 00:15:25,228 --> 00:15:28,188 I was determined to live a normal life, 317 00:15:28,231 --> 00:15:30,233 despite what Maybrook did to me. 318 00:15:30,277 --> 00:15:31,931 And did that work? 319 00:15:31,974 --> 00:15:34,672 Well, I thought pretty well at first. 320 00:15:34,716 --> 00:15:35,978 And then my wife wanted kids, 321 00:15:36,022 --> 00:15:37,675 and I couldn't tell her why I didn't. 322 00:15:37,719 --> 00:15:39,721 I couldn't tell her that I was afraid 323 00:15:39,764 --> 00:15:41,331 that I wouldn't be able to protect them, 324 00:15:41,375 --> 00:15:43,551 the way that I couldn't protect my brother. 325 00:15:43,594 --> 00:15:45,509 Objection. Relevance? 326 00:15:45,553 --> 00:15:46,684 McNEIL: Overruled. 327 00:15:46,728 --> 00:15:49,078 You may continue. 328 00:15:49,122 --> 00:15:52,690 I don't know what else to say. 329 00:15:52,734 --> 00:15:55,737 I thought I was fine, and then one day, 330 00:15:55,780 --> 00:15:58,131 I realized that I was totally alone. 331 00:15:58,174 --> 00:16:01,525 I'd lost everything. I lost my-my wife, 332 00:16:01,569 --> 00:16:03,266 my brother. 333 00:16:03,310 --> 00:16:05,225 BENNY: Thank you. 334 00:16:05,268 --> 00:16:07,836 No further questions, Your Honor. 335 00:16:10,882 --> 00:16:13,059 GROSSMAN: Mr. Raposa, 336 00:16:13,102 --> 00:16:16,062 do you know a man by the name of Morton Clemmons? 337 00:16:16,105 --> 00:16:18,586 STEPHEN: Mo Clemmons? Yeah. 338 00:16:18,629 --> 00:16:20,457 Yeah, sure. I know him. 339 00:16:20,501 --> 00:16:22,720 He is a loan officer, isn't he? 340 00:16:22,764 --> 00:16:25,419 Have you ever approached him about a loan? 341 00:16:25,462 --> 00:16:27,290 Objection. Relevance? 342 00:16:27,334 --> 00:16:28,596 GROSSMAN: Uh, Your Honor, 343 00:16:28,639 --> 00:16:31,729 the witness testified that he suddenly decided 344 00:16:31,773 --> 00:16:33,427 to tell this story about my client 345 00:16:33,470 --> 00:16:35,037 because of a change in the law. 346 00:16:35,081 --> 00:16:38,345 I intend to prove that there is, in fact, 347 00:16:38,388 --> 00:16:40,434 another reason for his suit. 348 00:16:40,477 --> 00:16:43,698 I'll allow. The witness will answer the question. 349 00:16:43,741 --> 00:16:46,527 STEPHEN: Yes, I applied for a loan at the bank, 350 00:16:46,570 --> 00:16:47,876 and he was the loan officer, 351 00:16:47,919 --> 00:16:49,878 yes. In fact, 352 00:16:49,921 --> 00:16:53,882 you borrowed $15,000, didn't you? 353 00:16:53,925 --> 00:16:57,277 Yes. I retired from the service a year ago. 354 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,061 I wanted a change of pace. 355 00:16:59,105 --> 00:17:00,758 I wanted to see my brother more often, 356 00:17:00,802 --> 00:17:03,283 so I bought a body shop with my savings, 357 00:17:03,326 --> 00:17:06,068 but the equipment, 358 00:17:06,112 --> 00:17:08,592 it needed some upgrades, so... 359 00:17:08,636 --> 00:17:11,073 So you borrowed $15,000 360 00:17:11,117 --> 00:17:14,250 and you have not been able to make those payments 361 00:17:14,294 --> 00:17:16,426 in a timely fashion, have you? 362 00:17:16,470 --> 00:17:18,994 Well, I think I have, mostly. 363 00:17:21,562 --> 00:17:23,564 The last 90 days, it's been tricky. 364 00:17:23,607 --> 00:17:25,957 My-my brother didn't have insurance, so I had to pay 365 00:17:26,001 --> 00:17:29,222 for his last round of rehab, plus the funeral. 366 00:17:29,265 --> 00:17:31,615 I have alimony payments. 367 00:17:31,659 --> 00:17:33,617 The bank threatened to repossess your shop, didn't they? 368 00:17:36,272 --> 00:17:39,449 Do you recognize these e-mails 369 00:17:39,493 --> 00:17:42,278 between you and Mr. Clemmons? 370 00:17:42,322 --> 00:17:44,802 Sure. Yeah. 371 00:17:44,846 --> 00:17:47,501 And would you read the last one for me, 372 00:17:47,544 --> 00:17:50,939 the one sent on the very morning you filed 373 00:17:50,982 --> 00:17:53,115 this lawsuit? 374 00:17:53,159 --> 00:17:55,030 "Seriously, no need for the repo talk. 375 00:17:55,074 --> 00:17:57,989 "I have a plan. I'll have the funds by the end of the month, 376 00:17:58,033 --> 00:17:59,121 guaranteed." 377 00:17:59,165 --> 00:18:02,864 "By the end of the month, guaranteed." 378 00:18:02,907 --> 00:18:07,086 Where was this cash going to come from, Mr. Raposa? 379 00:18:07,129 --> 00:18:08,652 My client? 380 00:18:08,696 --> 00:18:11,873 Was your plan to slander Mr. Maybrook 381 00:18:11,916 --> 00:18:13,614 so that you could get your hands 382 00:18:13,657 --> 00:18:15,529 on the money you needed? 383 00:18:15,572 --> 00:18:18,009 No, of course not. 384 00:18:18,053 --> 00:18:21,665 I was going to sell some machinery, maybe, 385 00:18:21,709 --> 00:18:24,146 or maybe try to borrow 386 00:18:24,190 --> 00:18:26,888 a loan against my army pension. 387 00:18:26,931 --> 00:18:29,760 Try? Maybe? 388 00:18:29,804 --> 00:18:32,850 Sounds very different from the "guarantee" 389 00:18:32,894 --> 00:18:34,852 you promise in that e-mail. 390 00:18:34,896 --> 00:18:38,639 I was buying time, so I exaggerated a little. 391 00:18:38,682 --> 00:18:40,031 Oh, you exaggerated a little? 392 00:18:40,075 --> 00:18:43,426 [gasps] You exaggerated. 393 00:18:43,470 --> 00:18:46,212 Turns out he exaggerated, ladies and gentlemen, 394 00:18:46,255 --> 00:18:50,129 misrepresented the truth so that he could get what he wanted. 395 00:18:50,172 --> 00:18:54,437 I wonder what else he has misrepresented here today. 396 00:18:54,481 --> 00:18:55,960 Objection.MCNEIL: Sustained. 397 00:18:56,004 --> 00:18:57,745 Jury will disregard. 398 00:18:57,788 --> 00:18:59,007 Did they? 399 00:18:59,050 --> 00:19:02,010 Nope. Not a one of them. 400 00:19:02,053 --> 00:19:04,186 Every green is gone, Bull. 401 00:19:12,847 --> 00:19:15,502 Suggesting that a man is lying about his being abused 402 00:19:15,545 --> 00:19:18,113 because he has money problems... 403 00:19:18,157 --> 00:19:20,550 How does an attorney put that out there with a straight face? 404 00:19:20,594 --> 00:19:22,683 Because, sadly, it works. 405 00:19:22,726 --> 00:19:24,206 Fills the jury with doubt, 406 00:19:24,250 --> 00:19:26,513 and the truth is, we might be employing the same strategy 407 00:19:26,556 --> 00:19:27,775 if we were representing Maybrook. 408 00:19:27,818 --> 00:19:30,691 Except I would never be Maybrook's attorney. 409 00:19:30,734 --> 00:19:32,345 Defend someone who hurts children? 410 00:19:32,388 --> 00:19:35,652 That would never happen. 411 00:19:35,696 --> 00:19:37,437 But it did work, didn't it? 412 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,395 Mm. 413 00:19:39,439 --> 00:19:41,354 Hopefully, Danny's potential witness 414 00:19:41,397 --> 00:19:43,225 will be waiting for us back at the office, 415 00:19:43,269 --> 00:19:46,881 and with any luck, his story will sound enough like Stephen's 416 00:19:46,924 --> 00:19:48,665 to resonate with the jury. 417 00:19:48,709 --> 00:19:51,059 ALAN: It was a couple of nights after the Captain's Dinner. 418 00:19:51,102 --> 00:19:55,194 His assistant Lydia said he wanted to see me. 419 00:19:55,237 --> 00:19:57,239 I can't lie. [chuckles] 420 00:19:57,283 --> 00:19:59,023 I was pretty excited. 421 00:19:59,067 --> 00:20:00,808 Why's that? 422 00:20:00,851 --> 00:20:03,854 'Cause my family was poor and Maybrook wasn't. 423 00:20:03,898 --> 00:20:07,249 He had a Sega, he had a PS1, 424 00:20:07,293 --> 00:20:10,905 all these cool cameras, his very own darkroom. 425 00:20:10,948 --> 00:20:13,908 And I had heard sometimes he let kids drink his liquor. 426 00:20:13,951 --> 00:20:15,910 Are you saying he offered you alcohol? 427 00:20:15,953 --> 00:20:17,259 Eventually. 428 00:20:17,303 --> 00:20:18,695 How'd you feel about that? 429 00:20:18,739 --> 00:20:20,349 Thought I'd died and gone to heaven. 430 00:20:20,393 --> 00:20:22,090 [chuckles] 431 00:20:22,133 --> 00:20:25,659 My dad was in jail. 432 00:20:25,702 --> 00:20:28,923 I lived with my aunt-- who, between us, 433 00:20:28,966 --> 00:20:32,492 had her own issues with drugs. 434 00:20:32,535 --> 00:20:36,322 Truth is, I remember thinking, "This is pretty good." 435 00:20:36,365 --> 00:20:37,975 BULL: Okay. 436 00:20:38,019 --> 00:20:42,284 Let's go back to the time you spent alone with Mr. Maybrook. 437 00:20:42,328 --> 00:20:43,938 Did he touch you? 438 00:20:43,981 --> 00:20:46,941 Sure. All the time. 439 00:20:46,984 --> 00:20:49,552 At first, it was small stuff. 440 00:20:49,596 --> 00:20:53,861 He'd rub my shoulders, squeeze my arm. 441 00:20:53,904 --> 00:20:55,123 I see. 442 00:20:55,166 --> 00:20:59,780 And did it get more intimate, more sexual? 443 00:21:03,305 --> 00:21:05,307 Yeah. 444 00:21:05,351 --> 00:21:06,874 Of course. 445 00:21:06,917 --> 00:21:08,354 [sighs] 446 00:21:08,397 --> 00:21:11,052 Can you describe these interactions 447 00:21:11,095 --> 00:21:12,358 you had with Maybrook? 448 00:21:12,401 --> 00:21:16,057 There was no interaction. 449 00:21:16,100 --> 00:21:18,407 That would imply two people participating. 450 00:21:18,451 --> 00:21:22,193 There was just him getting you drunk, 451 00:21:22,237 --> 00:21:25,545 getting you high, and taking what he wanted. 452 00:21:25,588 --> 00:21:27,547 I know it must be difficult, 453 00:21:27,590 --> 00:21:30,158 but if you could just tell us about that. 454 00:21:31,202 --> 00:21:34,336 What he did, how he did it. 455 00:21:34,380 --> 00:21:36,338 How it felt? 456 00:21:37,513 --> 00:21:39,341 [sighs] 457 00:21:39,385 --> 00:21:42,126 I'm sorry. I know this is really difficult, 458 00:21:42,170 --> 00:21:44,303 and I don't mean to make you uncomfortable, 459 00:21:44,346 --> 00:21:47,610 but it's incredibly important that the jury hear from someone, 460 00:21:47,654 --> 00:21:50,831 anyone, other than our client. 461 00:21:50,874 --> 00:21:54,182 Someone who's been victimized by Maybrook. 462 00:21:54,225 --> 00:21:55,879 You understand that? 463 00:21:56,924 --> 00:21:58,012 If we don't ask you, 464 00:21:58,055 --> 00:22:00,362 the other side will. 465 00:22:01,407 --> 00:22:03,409 [sighs] 466 00:22:08,979 --> 00:22:11,286 My wife was right. I'm sorry, I can't. 467 00:22:11,330 --> 00:22:12,896 I-I just can't do this. 468 00:22:12,940 --> 00:22:14,158 Did you think you wouldn't be asked? 469 00:22:14,202 --> 00:22:16,117 I guess I was hoping 470 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:17,771 it would be good enough if I showed up. 471 00:22:17,814 --> 00:22:20,251 I don't actually think I could go up in front 472 00:22:20,295 --> 00:22:22,079 of a courtroom full of people and go into details. 473 00:22:22,123 --> 00:22:23,472 MARISSA: But Alan, 474 00:22:23,516 --> 00:22:25,605 without your testimony, it is our client's word 475 00:22:25,648 --> 00:22:27,694 against Maybrook's. 476 00:22:27,737 --> 00:22:29,739 He doesn't stand a chance. 477 00:22:30,784 --> 00:22:33,917 I know. 478 00:22:33,961 --> 00:22:35,397 [exhales] 479 00:22:35,441 --> 00:22:38,095 But if I answer that question, 480 00:22:38,139 --> 00:22:41,925 if I say those things out loud, in court, 481 00:22:41,969 --> 00:22:46,234 in a room full of strangers, 482 00:22:46,277 --> 00:22:48,541 how long before the whole world looks at me 483 00:22:48,584 --> 00:22:51,065 and only sees what happened? 484 00:22:51,108 --> 00:22:54,068 Sees a victim? 485 00:22:54,111 --> 00:22:57,114 Not the success that I've become... 486 00:23:00,466 --> 00:23:03,512 ...but the broken kid I used to be. 487 00:23:06,472 --> 00:23:08,430 The gullible child 488 00:23:08,474 --> 00:23:12,869 Maybrook did horrible things to. 489 00:23:15,002 --> 00:23:16,960 Look, 490 00:23:17,004 --> 00:23:20,747 if it were just me, maybe. 491 00:23:20,790 --> 00:23:24,272 But I have a wife to think about. Kids. 492 00:23:24,315 --> 00:23:28,319 How could I explain all this to my kids? 493 00:23:29,712 --> 00:23:31,410 I'm sorry. I-I wish you and your client 494 00:23:31,453 --> 00:23:32,889 all the luck in the world. 495 00:23:32,933 --> 00:23:35,588 And I'm sorry I wasted your time. 496 00:23:38,634 --> 00:23:40,767 U-Uh, let me walk you out. 497 00:23:46,250 --> 00:23:48,165 Please sit. 498 00:23:48,209 --> 00:23:51,299 Mr. Colón, you may call your next witness. 499 00:23:51,342 --> 00:23:54,476 Uh, Your Honor, the witness we had scheduled 500 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,957 is no longer available to testify at this time. 501 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,785 We request a continuance 502 00:23:58,828 --> 00:24:01,788 in order to secure an adequate replacement. 503 00:24:01,831 --> 00:24:05,095 Due to the backlog on this court's docket, and the fact 504 00:24:05,139 --> 00:24:08,316 that the events at issue here occurred 24 years ago, 505 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,971 I feel this case cannot afford further delay. 506 00:24:11,014 --> 00:24:12,146 I'm denying your request. 507 00:24:12,189 --> 00:24:14,670 BENNY: Uh, respectfully, 508 00:24:14,714 --> 00:24:18,108 Your Honor, though the events of this case happened 509 00:24:18,152 --> 00:24:22,373 a long time ago, the lookback window opened just recently. 510 00:24:22,417 --> 00:24:24,637 We've been working under a condensed time line, 511 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,639 and we had no way of predicting 512 00:24:26,682 --> 00:24:28,989 this turn of events with our witness. 513 00:24:29,032 --> 00:24:31,861 Well-- Be that as it may, do you have any other witnesses 514 00:24:31,905 --> 00:24:34,037 at your disposal at this time? 515 00:24:35,082 --> 00:24:36,475 No, Your Honor. 516 00:24:36,518 --> 00:24:37,911 Ms. Grossman, 517 00:24:37,954 --> 00:24:39,652 is the defense prepared to call its first witness? 518 00:24:39,695 --> 00:24:41,523 We are, Your Honor. 519 00:24:41,567 --> 00:24:44,961 The defense calls Peter Maybrook. 520 00:24:45,005 --> 00:24:47,790 MAYBROOK: The inclination for opening the camp? 521 00:24:47,834 --> 00:24:50,140 I think that's pretty clear. 522 00:24:50,184 --> 00:24:52,708 I don't want to bore the jury with my story. 523 00:24:52,752 --> 00:24:55,929 I'm pretty sure that you've heard it before. 524 00:24:55,972 --> 00:25:00,368 But the essence of it is, I grew up in the projects. 525 00:25:00,411 --> 00:25:01,543 No dad. 526 00:25:01,587 --> 00:25:03,632 Mom who wouldn't come home 527 00:25:03,676 --> 00:25:05,329 for days at a time. 528 00:25:05,373 --> 00:25:06,853 But when you're growing up, 529 00:25:06,896 --> 00:25:10,639 you don't know that any of that's not normal. 530 00:25:10,683 --> 00:25:11,988 MARISSA [over earbud]: I'm sure I don't need 531 00:25:12,032 --> 00:25:13,773 to tell you, but they love this guy. 532 00:25:13,816 --> 00:25:15,383 MAYBROOK: Anyway, when I was 13, 533 00:25:15,426 --> 00:25:17,777 I was picked to go 534 00:25:17,820 --> 00:25:19,605 to a fresh air camp upstate 535 00:25:19,648 --> 00:25:23,870 for two weeks in the summer. 536 00:25:23,913 --> 00:25:26,742 Changed everything. 537 00:25:26,786 --> 00:25:29,266 Saved my life. 538 00:25:29,310 --> 00:25:31,921 There was a counselor up there who-- 539 00:25:31,965 --> 00:25:34,837 don't ask me why-- he took an interest in me. 540 00:25:34,881 --> 00:25:36,404 I know it's been almost a quarter-century, 541 00:25:36,447 --> 00:25:38,841 but I swear this is word for word the same nonsense 542 00:25:38,885 --> 00:25:41,104 he spewed on the first day of camp. 543 00:25:41,148 --> 00:25:43,498 ...and put me on a horse 544 00:25:43,542 --> 00:25:45,631 [chuckles]: for the first time. 545 00:25:45,674 --> 00:25:50,331 And then, after the two weeks was up, he stayed in touch. 546 00:25:50,374 --> 00:25:51,985 Wrote me letters, 547 00:25:52,028 --> 00:25:54,335 called me on the phone, asked me 548 00:25:54,378 --> 00:25:56,511 about school. 549 00:25:56,555 --> 00:25:58,644 Even dropped by once in a while. 550 00:25:58,687 --> 00:26:01,342 Things that nobody else was doing. 551 00:26:01,385 --> 00:26:04,084 The combination of that man, 552 00:26:04,127 --> 00:26:06,695 and that experience gave me 553 00:26:06,739 --> 00:26:12,135 the ability to see a future, which was something 554 00:26:12,179 --> 00:26:14,703 I-I had never really contemplated before. 555 00:26:14,747 --> 00:26:18,707 So when I started experiencing all my success, 556 00:26:18,751 --> 00:26:20,709 I just thought, 557 00:26:20,753 --> 00:26:24,104 I want to recreate that experience for someone else. 558 00:26:24,147 --> 00:26:26,193 I want to give back. 559 00:26:26,236 --> 00:26:28,021 BENNY: Objection! 560 00:26:28,064 --> 00:26:29,544 Relevance, Your Honor. 561 00:26:29,588 --> 00:26:32,634 This is a sexual assault and battery trial, 562 00:26:32,678 --> 00:26:34,114 not a testimonial dinner. 563 00:26:34,157 --> 00:26:35,463 What-what are we listening to here? 564 00:26:35,506 --> 00:26:36,725 GROSSMAN: Your Honor, 565 00:26:36,769 --> 00:26:38,684 the plaintiff and his attorney are painting 566 00:26:38,727 --> 00:26:42,339 Mr. Maybrook's camp like some kind of den of iniquity. 567 00:26:42,383 --> 00:26:44,646 It's only fair that I be...McNEIL: Enough. 568 00:26:44,690 --> 00:26:47,040 Both of you. On this point, I'm finding myself agreeing 569 00:26:47,083 --> 00:26:48,389 with Mr. Colón. 570 00:26:48,432 --> 00:26:51,174 Let's move it along, Ms. Grossman. 571 00:26:51,218 --> 00:26:54,830 Fine. Mr. Maybrook, did you host private dinners 572 00:26:54,874 --> 00:26:57,572 for the cabin captains at your estate? 573 00:26:57,616 --> 00:26:59,530 I did. Yes. 574 00:26:59,574 --> 00:27:02,359 These young men had achieved something. 575 00:27:02,403 --> 00:27:04,666 I felt it was important to show them 576 00:27:04,710 --> 00:27:07,016 that hard work reaped rewards. 577 00:27:07,060 --> 00:27:10,411 The plaintiff has asserted that you invited him back 578 00:27:10,454 --> 00:27:12,761 to your house alone on several occasions. 579 00:27:12,805 --> 00:27:14,371 Is that also true? 580 00:27:14,415 --> 00:27:18,680 It is. You have to remember, this was almost 25 years ago. 581 00:27:18,724 --> 00:27:21,335 The social mores have changed, 582 00:27:21,378 --> 00:27:25,774 but at the time, it wasn't unusual for a responsible adult 583 00:27:25,818 --> 00:27:29,169 to be alone with a young person in his charge. 584 00:27:29,212 --> 00:27:31,693 That all sounds very reasonable to me. 585 00:27:31,737 --> 00:27:35,697 But I would be remiss if I did not ask this question: 586 00:27:35,741 --> 00:27:40,354 Mr. Maybrook, do you have any idea why Mr. Raposa 587 00:27:40,397 --> 00:27:45,272 was able to describe your bathroom in such detail? 588 00:27:45,315 --> 00:27:47,927 What he said about the camper's wash cabins was true. 589 00:27:47,970 --> 00:27:49,929 Their hot water was inconsistent. 590 00:27:49,972 --> 00:27:52,671 So some of the young men would occasionally ask 591 00:27:52,714 --> 00:27:56,239 to use my shower, and I let them. 592 00:27:56,283 --> 00:27:59,373 Maybe-maybe I shouldn't have. 593 00:27:59,416 --> 00:28:01,636 GROSSMAN: And when you allowed one of these campers 594 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,030 to shower in your residence... 595 00:28:05,858 --> 00:28:10,253 ...did you ever have occasion to join them? 596 00:28:10,297 --> 00:28:13,039 Oh...To shower with them? 597 00:28:13,082 --> 00:28:14,475 My God, of course not. 598 00:28:14,518 --> 00:28:17,913 Then how do you account for Mr. Raposa's testimony? 599 00:28:17,957 --> 00:28:20,220 I-I can't, because it simply isn't true. 600 00:28:20,263 --> 00:28:22,135 GROSSMAN: Now, are-are you saying that 601 00:28:22,178 --> 00:28:24,485 you recollect it differently? 602 00:28:24,528 --> 00:28:29,272 Look, I remember Mr. Raposa. 603 00:28:29,316 --> 00:28:33,929 He was a promising young man. 604 00:28:33,973 --> 00:28:37,933 I simply wanted to help him, period. 605 00:28:37,977 --> 00:28:42,851 So it's heartbreaking to hear him lying about me in this way. 606 00:28:42,895 --> 00:28:45,898 I can only guess that he needs someone to blame 607 00:28:45,941 --> 00:28:48,161 for the way that his life turned out. 608 00:28:48,204 --> 00:28:49,989 BENNY: Objection. Witness 609 00:28:50,032 --> 00:28:51,120 is speculating. 610 00:28:51,164 --> 00:28:52,426 Sustained. 611 00:28:52,469 --> 00:28:54,907 The jury will disregard Mr. Maybrook's comments. 612 00:28:54,950 --> 00:28:58,127 GROSSMAN: You say Mr. Raposa is lying. 613 00:28:58,171 --> 00:29:02,131 Why should the jury believe you and not Mr. Raposa? 614 00:29:02,175 --> 00:29:05,308 Well, let's start with the fact that I wasn't even there. 615 00:29:05,352 --> 00:29:07,615 GROSSMAN: I'm sorry, how do you mean? 616 00:29:07,658 --> 00:29:10,661 The night that Mr. Raposa keeps referencing, 617 00:29:10,705 --> 00:29:13,795 the night that Michael Johnson won the gold in the 400 618 00:29:13,839 --> 00:29:15,666 in the Atlanta Olympics? 619 00:29:15,710 --> 00:29:17,799 I remember it perfectly. 620 00:29:17,843 --> 00:29:23,152 Except it was early morning where I was, in a pub in Dublin, 621 00:29:23,196 --> 00:29:26,808 celebrating a new store opening with my international team. 622 00:29:26,852 --> 00:29:29,985 [gallery murmuring]McNEIL: Order, please. 623 00:29:30,029 --> 00:29:32,509 GROSSMAN: Your Honor, I would like 624 00:29:32,553 --> 00:29:36,862 to enter this stamped passport into evidence, 625 00:29:36,905 --> 00:29:42,171 which documents the fact that Mr. Maybrook was, 626 00:29:42,215 --> 00:29:47,220 in fact, out of the country from mid-July 627 00:29:47,263 --> 00:29:49,526 through early August 1996, 628 00:29:49,570 --> 00:29:54,923 the exact time Mr. Raposa's alleged abuse took place. 629 00:29:54,967 --> 00:29:56,098 So entered. 630 00:29:56,142 --> 00:29:58,100 [gavel bangs] 631 00:30:04,933 --> 00:30:06,848 It just doesn't make sense. Do we believe his passport's real? 632 00:30:06,892 --> 00:30:08,589 He's a rich guy. Maybe...It's real. 633 00:30:08,632 --> 00:30:10,591 Our team authenticated it. 634 00:30:10,634 --> 00:30:13,028 Also found credit card receipts and hotel records. 635 00:30:13,072 --> 00:30:14,987 Maybrook really was in Dublin. 636 00:30:15,030 --> 00:30:17,337 I don't understand. 637 00:30:17,380 --> 00:30:19,687 You know me, Marissa. I-I didn't make this up. 638 00:30:19,730 --> 00:30:20,993 I'm not a liar. 639 00:30:21,036 --> 00:30:23,038 Of course you didn't. Of course you aren't. 640 00:30:23,082 --> 00:30:25,214 Look, I spent years telling people 641 00:30:25,258 --> 00:30:28,043 I met my adoptive mom on my ninth birthday. 642 00:30:28,087 --> 00:30:29,392 Years. 643 00:30:29,436 --> 00:30:32,047 I remembered that day so clearly. 644 00:30:32,091 --> 00:30:33,875 My foster mom threw a plate at my head that morning 645 00:30:33,919 --> 00:30:35,224 because the dishes weren't done. 646 00:30:35,268 --> 00:30:37,226 Got me right here. 647 00:30:37,270 --> 00:30:40,577 Anyway, that afternoon at school, there was cake. 648 00:30:40,621 --> 00:30:44,407 I wished on those candles with all my might for a new family. 649 00:30:44,451 --> 00:30:46,801 And who was at the social worker's office that night 650 00:30:46,845 --> 00:30:48,629 but my new mom. 651 00:30:48,672 --> 00:30:50,413 Wow. That's amazing. 652 00:30:50,457 --> 00:30:52,459 It's also not true. 653 00:30:52,502 --> 00:30:54,853 A few years back, I was going through old paperwork, 654 00:30:54,896 --> 00:30:56,942 and realized I hadn't actually met my mom 655 00:30:56,985 --> 00:30:59,118 until I was nearly ten. 656 00:30:59,161 --> 00:31:01,947 Memory. It's malleable. 657 00:31:01,990 --> 00:31:04,471 Especially when it comes to children. 658 00:31:04,514 --> 00:31:07,039 Especially when it comes to trauma. 659 00:31:08,083 --> 00:31:09,998 So what does this mean for my case? 660 00:31:10,042 --> 00:31:11,434 It means we call a rebuttal witness. 661 00:31:11,478 --> 00:31:13,610 It's why we asked for a day's continuance, 662 00:31:13,654 --> 00:31:16,439 so we can line up some experts who can explain to the jury 663 00:31:16,483 --> 00:31:19,616 that PTSD can lead to the repression of some memories 664 00:31:19,660 --> 00:31:22,097 and the conflation of others. 665 00:31:22,141 --> 00:31:24,970 Don't worry. 666 00:31:25,013 --> 00:31:26,972 We'll get through this. 667 00:31:27,015 --> 00:31:28,887 We're not done. 668 00:31:28,930 --> 00:31:31,367 [phone buzzing and chiming] 669 00:31:32,412 --> 00:31:33,935 [sighs]: Oh. 670 00:31:33,979 --> 00:31:35,284 Hallelujah. 671 00:31:35,328 --> 00:31:36,764 You have to share. 672 00:31:36,807 --> 00:31:38,461 BULL: The child psychologist 673 00:31:38,505 --> 00:31:40,289 I reached out to, the one who specializes 674 00:31:40,333 --> 00:31:41,464 in trauma and memory? 675 00:31:41,508 --> 00:31:44,163 She just texted "yes." 676 00:31:44,206 --> 00:31:45,991 She's agreed to meet with Stephen, 677 00:31:46,034 --> 00:31:48,036 and if that meeting goes well, 678 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,820 she's willing to testify on his behalf. 679 00:31:49,864 --> 00:31:52,562 If only that were all there was to it. 680 00:31:52,606 --> 00:31:54,303 What are you talking about? 681 00:31:54,347 --> 00:31:56,958 [sighs] Maybrook's attorney just e-mailed me 682 00:31:57,002 --> 00:31:58,655 an updated witness list. 683 00:31:58,699 --> 00:32:00,483 There are more names on here 684 00:32:00,527 --> 00:32:02,616 than the credits of a Marvel movie. 685 00:32:04,574 --> 00:32:06,707 Camp alumni, former staffers, 686 00:32:06,750 --> 00:32:08,361 his head of philanthropic giving. 687 00:32:08,404 --> 00:32:10,493 All people who are gonna sing Maybrook's praises 688 00:32:10,537 --> 00:32:12,147 to the high heavens. 689 00:32:12,191 --> 00:32:14,497 Got it. She's gonna inundate the jury 690 00:32:14,541 --> 00:32:15,846 with character witnesses. 691 00:32:15,890 --> 00:32:18,197 So by the time we get our shot at rebuttal, 692 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:19,981 the jury will be so weary, they won't even hear 693 00:32:20,025 --> 00:32:21,504 what we have to say. 694 00:32:21,548 --> 00:32:23,289 Wait a second. 695 00:32:23,332 --> 00:32:25,726 Is this the entire list? Is this everyone? 696 00:32:25,769 --> 00:32:27,815 It's three pages long, Taylor. You want more? 697 00:32:27,858 --> 00:32:28,990 No, I just-- 698 00:32:29,034 --> 00:32:31,210 Lydia Helms, his former assistant. 699 00:32:31,253 --> 00:32:32,341 How come she's not on the list? 700 00:32:32,385 --> 00:32:35,562 Lydia. 701 00:32:35,605 --> 00:32:37,172 She's the one Stephen talked about. 702 00:32:37,216 --> 00:32:40,262 Mr. Coleman, the other night in my office. 703 00:32:40,306 --> 00:32:41,960 She would make the approach. 704 00:32:42,003 --> 00:32:44,875 She would invite them up to the house. 705 00:32:44,919 --> 00:32:47,356 Didn't Marissa reach out to her before the trial? 706 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,315 Yeah. She worked with him for years. 707 00:32:49,358 --> 00:32:51,099 Apparently she just loved him. 708 00:32:51,143 --> 00:32:53,406 But if that's the case, why isn't the defense 709 00:32:53,449 --> 00:32:54,755 putting her on the stand? 710 00:32:54,798 --> 00:32:56,365 [doorbell rings] 711 00:32:58,498 --> 00:33:00,413 Can I help you? 712 00:33:00,456 --> 00:33:05,026 Yes. I'm looking for Mrs. Helms. Mrs. Lydia Helms. 713 00:33:05,070 --> 00:33:06,549 And you are... 714 00:33:06,593 --> 00:33:07,768 I'm Dr. Jason Bull. 715 00:33:07,811 --> 00:33:09,770 I'm representing Mr. Stephen Raposa 716 00:33:09,813 --> 00:33:11,990 in a civil suit against Peter Maybrook, 717 00:33:12,033 --> 00:33:13,382 who I believe you worked for. 718 00:33:13,426 --> 00:33:16,211 You know, I've already had this conversation 719 00:33:16,255 --> 00:33:18,692 with a woman from your office. 720 00:33:18,735 --> 00:33:22,174 As I explained to her, I really have nothing to say. 721 00:33:22,217 --> 00:33:24,219 Right. 722 00:33:25,438 --> 00:33:28,310 Aren't you worried he's gonna do it again? 723 00:33:30,791 --> 00:33:33,098 I'd be grateful if you'd invite me in. 724 00:33:33,141 --> 00:33:35,100 I'll only need ten minutes of your time. 725 00:33:35,143 --> 00:33:39,408 Save us both the trouble of me having to subpoena you. 726 00:33:39,452 --> 00:33:40,627 LYDIA: The truth is, 727 00:33:40,670 --> 00:33:42,933 I don't know anything. 728 00:33:42,977 --> 00:33:45,675 Not for certain, not that I'd swear to in court. 729 00:33:45,719 --> 00:33:47,242 But you suspected something. 730 00:33:47,286 --> 00:33:49,418 Not until that last summer. 731 00:33:49,462 --> 00:33:51,942 Peter decided to close the camp. 732 00:33:51,986 --> 00:33:54,641 Anyway, we-we were selling the estate, 733 00:33:54,684 --> 00:33:57,731 and I was helping to prepare for the move. 734 00:33:57,774 --> 00:33:59,341 Peter was an avid photographer, 735 00:33:59,385 --> 00:34:00,777 and I knew he loved his darkroom, 736 00:34:00,821 --> 00:34:04,651 so I decided I would just pack it myself. 737 00:34:04,694 --> 00:34:08,089 And did you see something in the darkroom? 738 00:34:08,133 --> 00:34:11,397 Not what you think. 739 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,703 Nothing lewd. 740 00:34:13,747 --> 00:34:17,533 Just... pictures of boys. 741 00:34:19,448 --> 00:34:20,928 Everywhere. 742 00:34:20,971 --> 00:34:24,236 And taken with such affection. 743 00:34:24,279 --> 00:34:28,588 He made them all look beautiful, like-like an artist 744 00:34:28,631 --> 00:34:31,417 when he paints his lover or his muse. 745 00:34:31,460 --> 00:34:33,767 It was like he was trying to 746 00:34:33,810 --> 00:34:37,684 desperately capture something, hold onto something. 747 00:34:39,773 --> 00:34:41,601 It felt intensely private. 748 00:34:41,644 --> 00:34:43,820 [line ringing] 749 00:34:45,387 --> 00:34:46,475 STEPHEN: Hello. 750 00:34:46,519 --> 00:34:48,042 Stephen, am I catching you at dinner? 751 00:34:48,086 --> 00:34:50,218 It's Jason Bull. There's something I'd like to ask you. 752 00:34:50,262 --> 00:34:51,741 Sure. 753 00:34:51,785 --> 00:34:54,657 Do you remember Maybrook ever taking photos of you, 754 00:34:54,701 --> 00:34:56,746 or maybe the two of you together? 755 00:34:56,790 --> 00:35:00,098 Uh, no. I remember hearing he had a darkroom, 756 00:35:00,141 --> 00:35:02,317 but I don't remember him taking pictures. Why? 757 00:35:02,361 --> 00:35:05,320 Did Ryan ever talk about Maybrook taking pictures? 758 00:35:05,364 --> 00:35:06,800 Ryan talked about a lot of things 759 00:35:06,843 --> 00:35:07,975 when it came to Maybrook. 760 00:35:08,018 --> 00:35:10,282 Mostly I tried to tune him out. 761 00:35:10,325 --> 00:35:13,111 But I do remember the night he ransacked Maybrook's place. 762 00:35:13,154 --> 00:35:15,591 He brought back three or four cameras. 763 00:35:15,635 --> 00:35:18,159 I figured he probably wanted to sell them for drug money, 764 00:35:18,203 --> 00:35:20,161 so I took them, hid them. 765 00:35:20,205 --> 00:35:22,163 I didn't want him getting caught. 766 00:35:22,207 --> 00:35:24,165 Getting in more trouble. 767 00:35:24,209 --> 00:35:25,862 You took them. 768 00:35:25,906 --> 00:35:27,951 Any chance you still have 'em? 769 00:35:33,218 --> 00:35:34,958 Your Honor, in light of some new evidence 770 00:35:35,002 --> 00:35:37,265 that's just been brought to our attention, 771 00:35:37,309 --> 00:35:39,006 the plaintiff would like to recall 772 00:35:39,049 --> 00:35:40,660 Peter Maybrook to the stand. 773 00:35:44,794 --> 00:35:48,189 Mr. Maybrook, now, I understand 774 00:35:48,233 --> 00:35:50,931 you have an interest in photography. 775 00:35:50,974 --> 00:35:52,454 I do.Ah. 776 00:35:52,498 --> 00:35:55,979 Do you recognize this camera? 777 00:35:56,023 --> 00:35:58,765 I believe it belonged to you at one time. 778 00:35:58,808 --> 00:36:01,420 I-I have no idea. 779 00:36:01,463 --> 00:36:04,466 I-I may have had a camera like that in the past. 780 00:36:04,510 --> 00:36:07,643 Oh, well, 781 00:36:07,687 --> 00:36:10,255 w-would it surprise you to learn 782 00:36:10,298 --> 00:36:13,954 that your fingerprints were found on this camera? 783 00:36:13,997 --> 00:36:17,218 Or that we contacted the manufacturer 784 00:36:17,262 --> 00:36:20,917 and learned that you sent a warranty card 785 00:36:20,961 --> 00:36:25,879 for a camera with the exact same serial numbers as this one? 786 00:36:25,922 --> 00:36:28,882 It seems like it might have been my camera.Ah. 787 00:36:28,925 --> 00:36:30,753 Ha-ha, well, 788 00:36:30,797 --> 00:36:33,452 I appreciate you conceding that, sir. 789 00:36:33,495 --> 00:36:36,237 See, but here's the thing. 790 00:36:36,281 --> 00:36:40,633 Did you know the reason we found this camera... 791 00:36:40,676 --> 00:36:43,462 the reason I am able to show it to you here today 792 00:36:43,505 --> 00:36:48,118 is because Ryan Raposa, my client's late brother, 793 00:36:48,162 --> 00:36:49,859 stole it from you? 794 00:36:49,903 --> 00:36:53,036 You remember that? 795 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,344 About ten years ago, your home was burglarized. 796 00:36:56,388 --> 00:37:00,261 I believe, along with everything else, 797 00:37:00,305 --> 00:37:03,090 four cameras were taken. 798 00:37:03,133 --> 00:37:07,181 Did you know that Ryan was the thief? 799 00:37:07,225 --> 00:37:10,271 Turns out he was... he was very angry with you. 800 00:37:10,315 --> 00:37:12,839 Even after all these years. 801 00:37:12,882 --> 00:37:15,145 See, I'm guessing you never knew. 802 00:37:15,189 --> 00:37:17,713 I'm guessing you never told the police 803 00:37:17,757 --> 00:37:20,847 because you were afraid of what they might find here. 804 00:37:20,890 --> 00:37:22,457 Turns out it's been in my client's basement 805 00:37:22,501 --> 00:37:23,458 this whole time. 806 00:37:23,502 --> 00:37:25,330 GROSSMAN: Objection. Relevance. 807 00:37:25,373 --> 00:37:28,158 I don't see what this has to do with anything. 808 00:37:28,202 --> 00:37:31,074 Your Honor, if you will permit me, 809 00:37:31,118 --> 00:37:33,294 I assure you that I will prove to the court 810 00:37:33,338 --> 00:37:34,991 just how relevant this camera is. 811 00:37:35,035 --> 00:37:36,906 Go ahead. 812 00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:40,649 To make things easier for everyone to see, 813 00:37:40,693 --> 00:37:44,784 I'm gonna connect this camera to this computer, 814 00:37:44,827 --> 00:37:48,222 and broadcast the images 815 00:37:48,266 --> 00:37:52,661 to the monitor right next to Mr. Maybrook. 816 00:37:52,705 --> 00:37:56,186 Hey, is that you in the photo there, Mr. Maybrook? 817 00:37:56,230 --> 00:37:58,276 Ten or so years ago, yes. 818 00:37:58,319 --> 00:38:00,365 BENNY: Ah. 819 00:38:00,408 --> 00:38:02,192 What about this photo? 820 00:38:02,236 --> 00:38:03,933 [gallery gasping and murmuring] 821 00:38:03,977 --> 00:38:05,021 Hmm? 822 00:38:05,065 --> 00:38:07,328 Now, what was going on there? 823 00:38:07,372 --> 00:38:09,374 You set up a timer or something? 824 00:38:11,724 --> 00:38:13,943 Ah, that's okay. 825 00:38:13,987 --> 00:38:16,816 That's all right. 826 00:38:16,859 --> 00:38:18,034 I was just trying to figure out 827 00:38:18,078 --> 00:38:21,168 if there was a third person in the room. 828 00:38:21,211 --> 00:38:23,431 That's not important, right? 829 00:38:23,475 --> 00:38:26,304 What is important is that we all agree that 830 00:38:26,347 --> 00:38:29,350 that is you in the photo. 831 00:38:29,394 --> 00:38:30,743 On the left-hand side of the frame 832 00:38:30,786 --> 00:38:35,704 with your shirt off and your arms around-- 833 00:38:35,748 --> 00:38:37,619 we'll get to him in a minute. 834 00:38:37,663 --> 00:38:39,055 That you, sir? 835 00:38:39,099 --> 00:38:41,667 It seems to be. 836 00:38:41,710 --> 00:38:44,887 I'm sorry, I need a yes or no. 837 00:38:44,931 --> 00:38:46,280 Mr. Maybrook? 838 00:38:48,456 --> 00:38:49,501 Yes. 839 00:38:49,544 --> 00:38:53,853 What about the boy in this photo? 840 00:38:53,896 --> 00:38:55,985 That boy right there. 841 00:38:56,029 --> 00:38:58,510 He must be about 13. 842 00:38:58,553 --> 00:39:00,294 He has his shirt off, too, 843 00:39:00,338 --> 00:39:02,035 and you two are holding each other. 844 00:39:02,078 --> 00:39:04,342 You happen to remember his name? 845 00:39:06,474 --> 00:39:09,695 I'm not sure. 846 00:39:09,738 --> 00:39:13,873 Roberto... Renaldo... 847 00:39:13,916 --> 00:39:15,701 I'm not sure. 848 00:39:15,744 --> 00:39:17,224 Eh, you're not sure. 849 00:39:17,267 --> 00:39:20,401 That's all right, that's all right, Mr. Maybrook. 850 00:39:20,445 --> 00:39:21,924 What about this photo? 851 00:39:21,968 --> 00:39:24,231 [all gasping, murmuring]That you? 852 00:39:24,274 --> 00:39:26,407 In the picture? 853 00:39:26,451 --> 00:39:29,758 Let the record reflect that I have just shown the defendant 854 00:39:29,802 --> 00:39:33,501 a photo of himself naked 855 00:39:33,545 --> 00:39:37,244 in a bathroom with a minor! 856 00:39:39,594 --> 00:39:41,901 Actually, I'm not certain that is me. 857 00:39:41,944 --> 00:39:44,120 Yeah? 858 00:39:44,164 --> 00:39:47,559 Hey, let me remind you that you are still under oath. 859 00:39:47,602 --> 00:39:49,561 I'd also like you to know that I've got 860 00:39:49,604 --> 00:39:52,433 33 more images very much like this one, 861 00:39:52,477 --> 00:39:55,436 and I am happy to show the court all of them, 862 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,134 and ask you to identify yourself on each and every one. 863 00:39:58,178 --> 00:40:01,442 Or you can concede that that is you, 864 00:40:01,486 --> 00:40:04,445 and for the moment, the slide show is over. 865 00:40:04,489 --> 00:40:05,794 Your choice. 866 00:40:11,409 --> 00:40:14,455 Actually, uh... 867 00:40:14,499 --> 00:40:16,414 on reflection... 868 00:40:19,286 --> 00:40:21,810 ...I believe that is me. 869 00:40:27,512 --> 00:40:29,383 Oh, God. 870 00:40:29,427 --> 00:40:31,777 Bull, tell Stephen he did it. 871 00:40:31,820 --> 00:40:33,779 I think he knows, Marissa. 872 00:40:33,822 --> 00:40:35,781 I think he knows. 873 00:40:42,396 --> 00:40:43,702 You think he's happy? 874 00:40:43,745 --> 00:40:46,574 I didn't know him, other than what you told me. 875 00:40:46,618 --> 00:40:50,491 But you picked a beautiful spot for his ashes. 876 00:40:52,754 --> 00:40:54,582 $35 million. 877 00:40:54,626 --> 00:40:56,802 You think it-it even matters to him? 878 00:40:56,845 --> 00:40:58,412 To Maybrook? 879 00:40:58,456 --> 00:41:01,154 Obviously, I'm going to donate it. 880 00:41:01,197 --> 00:41:02,460 I don't know to whom just yet. 881 00:41:02,503 --> 00:41:04,853 Some worthy cause. 882 00:41:12,078 --> 00:41:14,428 I know it's supposed to make me feel better. 883 00:41:14,472 --> 00:41:16,082 I know it's his punishment, but I swear to you, 884 00:41:16,125 --> 00:41:19,781 the whole time that we were sitting there in court, 885 00:41:19,825 --> 00:41:22,001 money never crossed my mind. 886 00:41:22,044 --> 00:41:24,351 I think I somehow convinced myself that 887 00:41:24,394 --> 00:41:26,658 they'd do something to him. 888 00:41:26,701 --> 00:41:29,269 Not just take some of his money. 889 00:41:29,312 --> 00:41:32,228 I'm pretty sure Ryan's in heaven rolling his eyes. 890 00:41:32,272 --> 00:41:35,362 Okay, if you are done feeling sorry for yourself 891 00:41:35,405 --> 00:41:37,930 because all you got was $35 million you never wanted, 892 00:41:37,973 --> 00:41:39,888 I think I have some good news for you. 893 00:41:39,932 --> 00:41:41,542 What? What is it? 894 00:41:41,586 --> 00:41:44,414 Peter Maybrook was just arrested. 895 00:41:49,071 --> 00:41:50,725 But how? How is that possible? 896 00:41:50,769 --> 00:41:53,162 The statute of limitations on criminal charges... 897 00:41:53,206 --> 00:41:54,468 I didn't want you to get your hopes up, 898 00:41:54,512 --> 00:41:56,426 but Bull had a strong hunch that if Maybrook had 899 00:41:56,470 --> 00:41:58,603 taken pictures of himself with underage boys in the past, 900 00:41:58,646 --> 00:42:00,126 he probably took pictures of himself 901 00:42:00,169 --> 00:42:01,693 with underage boys in the present. 902 00:42:01,736 --> 00:42:04,870 So Danny worked with an old NYPD colleague 903 00:42:04,913 --> 00:42:06,698 to drum up probable cause, 904 00:42:06,741 --> 00:42:08,787 and they raided his office this morning. 905 00:42:08,830 --> 00:42:09,875 Bull was right. 906 00:42:09,918 --> 00:42:12,355 Maybrook is going away for life. 907 00:42:14,662 --> 00:42:17,970 You think maybe Ryan's done with his eye-rolling? 908 00:42:20,407 --> 00:42:22,452 Yeah, I think so. 909 00:42:23,671 --> 00:42:26,195 Thank you. 910 00:42:28,676 --> 00:42:31,636 Captioning sponsored by CBS 911 00:42:31,679 --> 00:42:34,682 Captioned by Media Access Group at WGBH access.wgbh.org 63623

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