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What are we talking about?" 4 00:00:08,899 --> 00:00:11,817 NARRATOR: A controversial bestseller. 5 00:00:11,902 --> 00:00:14,453 GEORGE NOORY: I was mesmerized by it. 6 00:00:14,538 --> 00:00:15,221 I couldn't put it down. 7 00:00:15,789 --> 00:00:19,625 NARRATOR: And a scientific theory that threatened to change the world. 8 00:00:20,059 --> 00:00:21,911 DAVID CHILDRESS: Everything was turned upside-down 9 00:00:21,995 --> 00:00:23,629 by Erich Von Daniken. 10 00:00:23,663 --> 00:00:25,464 NARRATOR: Just what are the 11 00:00:25,531 --> 00:00:29,768 facts behind Erich Von Daniken and ancient astronaut theory? 12 00:00:30,535 --> 00:00:33,005 What were the divine inspirations... 13 00:00:33,406 --> 00:00:35,174 GIORGIO A. TSOUKALOS: The ancient Egyptians did build the 14 00:00:35,225 --> 00:00:39,645 pyramids with the assistance of the Guardians of the Sky. 15 00:00:41,012 --> 00:00:43,349 NARRATOR: the bizarre revelations... 16 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,185 JASON MARTELL: We're just starting to rediscover ancient 17 00:00:46,219 --> 00:00:49,721 technology that did exist thousands of years ago. 18 00:00:50,823 --> 00:00:52,891 NARRATOR: and the shocking conclusions that were 19 00:00:52,993 --> 00:00:55,126 too incredible to be ignored? 20 00:00:55,361 --> 00:00:57,780 ROBERT BAUVAL: Even if there is a chance in ten million that 21 00:00:57,864 --> 00:00:59,782 he is right, then everything changes. 22 00:01:00,166 --> 00:01:02,534 VON DANIKEN: We have been visited, and these visitors 23 00:01:02,586 --> 00:01:05,355 will return to Earth again. 24 00:01:06,039 --> 00:01:08,540 NARRATOR: Millions of people around the world believe 25 00:01:08,592 --> 00:01:12,044 we have been visited in the past by extraterrestrial beings. 26 00:01:13,578 --> 00:01:15,498 What if it were true? 27 00:01:15,882 --> 00:01:20,603 Did ancient aliens really help to shape our history, 28 00:01:20,687 --> 00:01:24,356 and if so, what does this say 29 00:01:24,424 --> 00:01:29,395 not only about mankind's past but about its future? 30 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:37,074 Advertise your product or brand here contact www.OpenSubtitles.org today 31 00:01:48,658 --> 00:01:52,658 sync and corrections by bellows www.addic7ed.com 32 00:01:59,659 --> 00:02:03,228 NARRATOR: Minneapolis, Minnesota, 33 00:02:03,296 --> 00:02:05,230 October, 2012. 34 00:02:06,032 --> 00:02:08,600 I want to introduce Erich Von Daniken. 35 00:02:10,752 --> 00:02:12,938 NARRATOR: Hundreds gather to hear iconic author and 36 00:02:12,972 --> 00:02:16,775 researcher Erich Von Daniken speak at the Paradigm Symposium, 37 00:02:16,810 --> 00:02:21,113 a four-day event focused on exploring ancient cosmology, 38 00:02:21,147 --> 00:02:26,118 anthropology, archaeology, and science fiction. 39 00:02:26,202 --> 00:02:28,787 VON DANIKEN: Maybe we have been visited from outer space. 40 00:02:28,855 --> 00:02:30,422 Where's the proof? 41 00:02:30,457 --> 00:02:31,757 What can we find? 42 00:02:31,791 --> 00:02:37,363 NARRATOR: His books have sold over 65 million copies worldwide. 43 00:02:37,847 --> 00:02:41,701 He is a hero to some and a heretic to others, 44 00:02:42,135 --> 00:02:45,471 but Erich Von Daniken's controversial theories have 45 00:02:45,555 --> 00:02:49,308 captured the attention of the world and ignited a movement 46 00:02:49,342 --> 00:02:52,578 known as ancient astronaut theory. 47 00:02:52,645 --> 00:02:54,846 VON DANIKEN: The scientific community, they were always 48 00:02:54,948 --> 00:02:56,682 afraid to think in this way. 49 00:02:56,750 --> 00:02:58,384 We have to change our thinking. 50 00:02:58,485 --> 00:03:01,653 NARRATOR: Von Daniken's research has taken him all over 51 00:03:01,687 --> 00:03:06,558 the world to investigate the unexplained mysteries of ancient cultures. 52 00:03:06,710 --> 00:03:09,745 He has spent his lifetime daring to question what mainstream 53 00:03:09,829 --> 00:03:12,497 scholars hold to be true. 54 00:03:12,499 --> 00:03:14,166 VON DANIKEN: We are the descendents, ladies and 55 00:03:14,218 --> 00:03:17,720 gentlemen, we are the offsprings of these extraterrestrials, 56 00:03:17,754 --> 00:03:21,106 and it's not by coincidence. 57 00:03:23,543 --> 00:03:24,676 NARRATOR: Erich Von Daniken's 58 00:03:24,728 --> 00:03:29,714 rise to notoriety began in February, 1968, when the Swiss 59 00:03:29,782 --> 00:03:32,985 hotel manager-turned-author published his groundbreaking 60 00:03:33,019 --> 00:03:36,822 book "Chariots of the Gods". 61 00:03:36,856 --> 00:03:39,992 In it, the young writer theorized that intelligent 62 00:03:40,026 --> 00:03:44,579 extraterrestrial beings visited Earth in the distant past 63 00:03:45,364 --> 00:03:48,651 and made contact with mankind. 64 00:03:49,002 --> 00:03:53,539 It caused a sensation, selling an impressive 500,000 65 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,543 copies in its first year of publication. 66 00:03:58,644 --> 00:04:00,846 BAUVAL: When the book first appeared was the year where we 67 00:04:00,914 --> 00:04:04,716 landed a man on the moon, and so there's a whole belief 68 00:04:04,818 --> 00:04:08,637 now that it was possible to travel into space, that we would 69 00:04:08,721 --> 00:04:10,223 send people to space. 70 00:04:11,808 --> 00:04:14,893 CHILDRESS: Many people were very excited about this whole 71 00:04:14,927 --> 00:04:18,629 new ancient astronaut theory. 72 00:04:18,731 --> 00:04:20,598 They thought it made sense. 73 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:25,070 We were coming ourselves into the modern space age. 74 00:04:27,991 --> 00:04:30,876 MIKE BARA: People were really, really interested in 75 00:04:30,910 --> 00:04:34,163 these kinds of subjects and wondering if maybe there had 76 00:04:34,247 --> 00:04:37,249 been something that we had secretly discovered on the moon 77 00:04:37,283 --> 00:04:41,154 that may have pointed towards extraterrestrial origins for man. 78 00:04:42,672 --> 00:04:46,525 NICK REDFERN: Although the phenomenon of ancient astronauts 79 00:04:46,593 --> 00:04:50,262 has been around since the '50s, it was really Von Daniken who 80 00:04:50,330 --> 00:04:54,683 opened the doors to where it became part of the popular culture. 81 00:04:54,734 --> 00:04:56,602 CHRISTOPHER O'BRIEN: "Chariots of the Gods" was a very 82 00:04:56,703 --> 00:04:59,771 crucial book for me because it opened my eyes up to the 83 00:04:59,856 --> 00:05:03,041 possibility that ancient cultures may have been in 84 00:05:03,076 --> 00:05:04,776 connection with or interacting 85 00:05:04,861 --> 00:05:07,581 with some sort of off-planet intelligence. 86 00:05:08,948 --> 00:05:11,783 NOORY: I was mesmerized by it; I couldn't put it down. 87 00:05:11,868 --> 00:05:15,721 It might've been the first book I read cover to cover in one day. 88 00:05:16,456 --> 00:05:19,625 His theories were just phenomenal where he talked about 89 00:05:19,659 --> 00:05:22,762 the possibility of extraterrestrial visitations. 90 00:05:23,963 --> 00:05:27,599 NARRATOR: By using rhetorical questions, Von Daniken suggested 91 00:05:27,634 --> 00:05:32,137 that evidence of alien close encounters could be found in 92 00:05:32,172 --> 00:05:34,973 everything from ancient religious texts and mysterious 93 00:05:35,074 --> 00:05:39,144 stone carvings to monumental structures and monoliths located 94 00:05:39,229 --> 00:05:41,664 all over the world. 95 00:05:42,148 --> 00:05:45,984 BARA: What he basically says is, you can no longer look at 96 00:05:46,035 --> 00:05:50,622 the traditional interpretations of historical events, 97 00:05:50,690 --> 00:05:52,958 historical monuments, historical structures, 98 00:05:53,025 --> 00:05:56,363 historical cultures at face value. 99 00:05:57,147 --> 00:06:01,032 You have to look at this in a much broader context of what 100 00:06:01,066 --> 00:06:04,070 could be perhaps extraterrestrial intervention. 101 00:06:05,505 --> 00:06:09,408 CHILDRESS: One of the things that Erich did was to take very 102 00:06:09,475 --> 00:06:15,597 familiar Bible stories and reinterpret them... 103 00:06:15,682 --> 00:06:18,400 where people are interacting with angels. 104 00:06:18,484 --> 00:06:22,487 They're even taken up into space in fiery chariots and things 105 00:06:22,522 --> 00:06:28,595 like that, and what it was was a re-examination of what we're taught. 106 00:06:29,762 --> 00:06:32,948 NARRATOR: But despite being well received by the public, 107 00:06:33,032 --> 00:06:38,288 scholars and scientists regarded Von Daniken's claims as pseudoscience. 108 00:06:39,372 --> 00:06:42,507 VON DANIKEN: I expected to be ridiculed, but I did not 109 00:06:42,625 --> 00:06:47,797 expect the unfair way in which the ridiculing happened in the media. 110 00:06:48,298 --> 00:06:50,182 I was at that time attacked. 111 00:06:50,216 --> 00:06:51,850 "Erich Von Daniken said..." 112 00:06:51,935 --> 00:06:58,473 In reality, in "Chariots of the Gods", I had 238 question marks. 113 00:06:58,474 --> 00:07:01,810 Nobody read the question marks. 114 00:07:01,861 --> 00:07:05,864 O'BRIEN: Trailblazers tend to become targets, and so 115 00:07:05,982 --> 00:07:10,402 academia for many years has slagged Von Daniken, 116 00:07:10,436 --> 00:07:12,571 saying it's sloppy research, it's sloppy thinking, 117 00:07:12,672 --> 00:07:14,473 it's sloppy analysis. 118 00:07:14,574 --> 00:07:17,542 However, as the years have gone on, more and more of his... 119 00:07:17,577 --> 00:07:21,830 his early work has now kind of been vindicated by other people, 120 00:07:21,914 --> 00:07:25,384 and I think we can all trace back this interest in this 121 00:07:25,485 --> 00:07:29,004 subject to Von Daniken's groundbreaking work. 122 00:07:29,005 --> 00:07:32,024 MARTELL: All the great thinkers of our time and in 123 00:07:32,091 --> 00:07:34,695 the past have been people who challenged the norm. 124 00:07:37,296 --> 00:07:40,265 So Erich Von Daniken really challenged the norm of academia 125 00:07:40,299 --> 00:07:44,820 to show that these things that we thought of as just religious 126 00:07:44,937 --> 00:07:48,523 myths actually have scientific merit, and we need to look 127 00:07:48,574 --> 00:07:49,592 into them further. 128 00:07:50,276 --> 00:07:53,111 NARRATOR: But what was the source for Erich Von Daniken's 129 00:07:53,196 --> 00:07:54,713 groundbreaking theory? 130 00:07:55,164 --> 00:07:59,017 Where did the notion of alien astronauts visiting the earth in 131 00:07:59,118 --> 00:08:01,522 the ancient past come from? 132 00:08:04,090 --> 00:08:07,541 VON DANIKEN: I was educated in a boarding school led by Jesuits. 133 00:08:07,711 --> 00:08:10,729 Three years, we had to translate parts of the Bible from one 134 00:08:10,797 --> 00:08:12,247 language into the other. 135 00:08:12,632 --> 00:08:14,800 In the first Book of Moses... 136 00:08:14,884 --> 00:08:16,468 (rumbling) 137 00:08:16,502 --> 00:08:20,889 the Lord descends from the heavens down to Earth on a holy mountain. 138 00:08:20,973 --> 00:08:24,526 With smoke and fire and loud noise and trembling, and 139 00:08:24,644 --> 00:08:26,812 everyone was afraid. 140 00:08:26,896 --> 00:08:28,750 That was the moment when I said, 141 00:08:30,650 --> 00:08:31,650 "This is not God". 142 00:08:31,651 --> 00:08:33,401 What are we talking about? 143 00:08:33,485 --> 00:08:37,406 My God does not need a vehicle in which to move around, which 144 00:08:37,457 --> 00:08:40,425 trembles and makes smoke "and loud noise." 145 00:08:40,460 --> 00:08:42,244 And it was the Jesuit priest who 146 00:08:42,328 --> 00:08:45,714 said, "Erich, maybe you should "read a Book of Enoch." 147 00:08:45,798 --> 00:08:48,500 NARRATOR: The Book of Enoch was excluded from the Bible and 148 00:08:48,601 --> 00:08:51,904 is still considered controversial by many theologians. 149 00:08:53,005 --> 00:08:57,142 But for Von Daniken, it was proof of something much greater. 150 00:08:57,510 --> 00:09:00,762 VON DANIKEN: It says that Enoch was taken away from our 151 00:09:00,813 --> 00:09:03,649 planet Earth by the Lord in a fiery chariot. 152 00:09:04,450 --> 00:09:08,770 Now, we knew nothing in the past about flying machines. 153 00:09:08,821 --> 00:09:13,792 So, in religious terms, they say now he has his flight into the heaven. 154 00:09:14,077 --> 00:09:17,830 But in my eyes, Enoch, he sees something which in reality 155 00:09:17,914 --> 00:09:20,232 it was a spaceship. 156 00:09:21,117 --> 00:09:23,702 NARRATOR: This omitted account of Enoch's journey 157 00:09:23,736 --> 00:09:26,705 only raised more questions for Von Daniken. 158 00:09:26,806 --> 00:09:31,310 He turned his focus to the story of the biblical prophet Ezekiel. 159 00:09:31,744 --> 00:09:36,749 Like Enoch, Ezekiel is also taken away in a fiery vehicle, 160 00:09:37,351 --> 00:09:39,601 a vehicle he describes in great 161 00:09:39,685 --> 00:09:42,755 technical detail in the pages of the Old Testament. 162 00:09:43,890 --> 00:09:48,393 Von Daniken brought the strange texts to the attention of his priest. 163 00:09:48,427 --> 00:09:52,063 VON DANIKEN: So the priest said, "Ezekiel has a vision." 164 00:09:52,148 --> 00:09:55,766 I said, "No, that's not the vision because he describes "the noise." 165 00:09:56,736 --> 00:09:59,271 He compares the noise with the thundering of a waterfall. 166 00:09:59,305 --> 00:10:01,472 It's not a vision. It's something different. 167 00:10:01,525 --> 00:10:03,695 Something like rocket engines. 168 00:10:06,379 --> 00:10:10,098 Now we are talking about contact with extraterrestrials, space 169 00:10:10,216 --> 00:10:12,952 travel, so it all came together. 170 00:10:13,953 --> 00:10:17,389 CHILDRESS: Erich wasn't completely rejecting religion 171 00:10:17,490 --> 00:10:18,657 or the idea of God. 172 00:10:18,942 --> 00:10:20,976 Or even angels for that matter. 173 00:10:20,977 --> 00:10:24,196 He was looking at things differently but still keeping 174 00:10:24,230 --> 00:10:29,468 a certain spirituality and knowledge of universal truths. 175 00:10:29,569 --> 00:10:33,405 VON DANIKEN: I have grown up as a Catholic, a Christian, 176 00:10:33,473 --> 00:10:38,260 and I clearly say I am still one of these believers in God. 177 00:10:38,278 --> 00:10:40,345 I pray every evening. 178 00:10:40,580 --> 00:10:49,004 We will never lose God, never, when we deal with ancient astronauts. 179 00:10:50,390 --> 00:10:53,925 NARRATOR: Is it possible, as Erich Von Daniken and other 180 00:10:54,010 --> 00:10:57,562 ancient astronaut researchers suggest, that the evidence for 181 00:10:57,630 --> 00:11:01,566 real-life close encounters can be found embedded in the pages 182 00:11:01,601 --> 00:11:03,185 of the Holy Bible? 183 00:11:03,269 --> 00:11:07,873 It was a question that the Swiss teenager was determined to answer. 184 00:11:08,441 --> 00:11:12,911 And his search now took him to the Egyptian desert and the 185 00:11:13,012 --> 00:11:14,882 mysterious structures known... 186 00:11:16,016 --> 00:11:18,250 as the Great Pyramids. 187 00:11:24,016 --> 00:11:28,820 NARRATOR: Northeastern Egypt, 1954. 188 00:11:31,791 --> 00:11:37,362 At the age of 19, Erich Von Daniken traveled to Giza, 189 00:11:37,463 --> 00:11:40,365 three miles from Cairo. 190 00:11:40,432 --> 00:11:44,705 There he could examine the Egyptian pyramids firsthand. 191 00:11:46,739 --> 00:11:49,708 VON DANIKEN: I visited Egypt for the first time when I was, 192 00:11:49,809 --> 00:11:51,042 well, a youngster. 193 00:11:51,143 --> 00:11:53,746 That was long before Chariots of the Gods. 194 00:11:54,547 --> 00:11:57,499 And it impressed me very, very much. 195 00:11:57,616 --> 00:12:01,886 I always had the feeling this is not only done by humans. 196 00:12:01,887 --> 00:12:04,522 Somebody must have done the planning. 197 00:12:07,024 --> 00:12:10,913 Of course, I learned at that time that archaeology says 198 00:12:10,930 --> 00:12:15,033 this building is made by a pharaoh with the name of Cheops. 199 00:12:15,901 --> 00:12:19,504 I asked, "Where does the name Cheops come from?" 200 00:12:19,855 --> 00:12:22,207 Because we don't have a statue of Cheops. 201 00:12:22,341 --> 00:12:24,075 We don't have a mummy of Cheops. 202 00:12:24,143 --> 00:12:27,879 You would think if somebody makes this gigantic building 203 00:12:27,980 --> 00:12:31,349 like the Great Pyramid, he would be proud and he would say, 204 00:12:31,417 --> 00:12:34,419 "Hey, I did it. I was the one who constructed this." 205 00:12:34,503 --> 00:12:37,924 But the Great Pyramid is the total anonymity. 206 00:12:39,425 --> 00:12:41,327 PHILLIP COPPENS: The Great Pyramid has always 207 00:12:41,361 --> 00:12:44,879 intrigued the ancient alien theory for a number of reasons. 208 00:12:44,964 --> 00:12:48,216 It's the last surviving wonder of the ancient world, and nobody 209 00:12:48,333 --> 00:12:51,936 has been able to explain how precisely it was built. 210 00:12:51,937 --> 00:12:56,057 Erich is not saying that aliens built it. 211 00:12:56,192 --> 00:12:59,110 Erich is saying that the pyramids, specifically the Great 212 00:12:59,211 --> 00:13:03,231 Pyramid, the way it is explained by academics today does not fit 213 00:13:03,366 --> 00:13:07,952 with what his research is indicating. 214 00:13:08,054 --> 00:13:11,122 NARRATOR: The puzzling way in which the Great Pyramid was 215 00:13:11,223 --> 00:13:15,794 constructed and the mystery surrounding its purpose, served 216 00:13:15,795 --> 00:13:20,432 to fuel both the Swiss teenager's curiosity and his imagination. 217 00:13:21,300 --> 00:13:24,919 Could it be that everything his teachers had told him about 218 00:13:24,970 --> 00:13:28,923 ancient civilizations was false? 219 00:13:29,008 --> 00:13:32,577 NOORY: The pyramids in Egypt are probably one of the greatest 220 00:13:32,645 --> 00:13:34,646 wonders of this planet. 221 00:13:34,747 --> 00:13:39,100 Some people say that they're, you know, landing marks for 222 00:13:39,218 --> 00:13:45,073 extraterrestrials, power plants, stabilizers for the planet 223 00:13:45,107 --> 00:13:48,226 creating energy waves. 224 00:13:48,227 --> 00:13:52,931 There's no doubt that somebody had to provide the information 225 00:13:52,998 --> 00:13:56,267 to help get this thing built because they're just too 226 00:13:56,302 --> 00:13:58,104 immense, they're too accurate. 227 00:14:00,106 --> 00:14:04,408 TSOUKALOS: There is absolutely no question that 228 00:14:04,460 --> 00:14:08,579 the Great Pyramids of Giza were built by human beings. 229 00:14:08,681 --> 00:14:10,449 The ancient Egyptians did it. 230 00:14:10,850 --> 00:14:15,270 However, what the ancient Egyptian texts also tell us, 231 00:14:15,354 --> 00:14:19,190 that the ancient Egyptians did build the pyramids, but with the 232 00:14:19,275 --> 00:14:22,595 assistance of the Guardians of the Sky. 233 00:14:23,696 --> 00:14:27,198 NARRATOR: Was it possible the early Egyptians had received 234 00:14:27,299 --> 00:14:32,203 otherworldly knowledge in order to construct the Great Pyramid of Giza? 235 00:14:32,288 --> 00:14:37,108 And if so, could proof be found by examining other 236 00:14:37,209 --> 00:14:38,627 archaeological sites? 237 00:14:41,881 --> 00:14:43,916 1971... 238 00:14:45,117 --> 00:14:46,968 Eastern India. 239 00:14:47,286 --> 00:14:52,674 It was here, at the Sanskrit College in Calcutta, that Erich 240 00:14:52,692 --> 00:14:56,978 Von Daniken met with Professor Dileep Kanjilal to study the 241 00:14:57,012 --> 00:15:02,734 Vedic Sanskrit, an ancient language used in religious Hindu texts. 242 00:15:03,635 --> 00:15:07,906 VON DANIKEN: Professor Dileep Kanjilal has gone through old 243 00:15:07,990 --> 00:15:10,910 Indian texts and made modern versions of it. 244 00:15:11,911 --> 00:15:15,997 Now, it comes out in the old books, the so-called gods, they 245 00:15:16,081 --> 00:15:20,351 used flying machines to travel from heaven to Earth. 246 00:15:20,352 --> 00:15:23,671 TSOUKALOS: According to the ancient Vedic texts of India, 247 00:15:23,706 --> 00:15:28,510 the gods descended from the sky in flying vehicles. 248 00:15:28,511 --> 00:15:31,765 They refer to those vehicles as "vimanas." 249 00:15:34,366 --> 00:15:37,902 There are very detailed descriptions: what these vimanas 250 00:15:38,003 --> 00:15:41,356 looked like, how they traveled from place to place, what was 251 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,609 necessary in order to pilot them, all those things are 252 00:15:44,693 --> 00:15:48,814 described in ancient Hindu texts that are thousands of years old. 253 00:15:50,115 --> 00:15:53,868 CHILDRESS: And for Erich, he naturally felt that these 254 00:15:53,953 --> 00:15:57,903 vimanas were real nuts-and-bolts aircraft. 255 00:15:58,123 --> 00:16:02,410 And of course, he's saying these are the vehicles 256 00:16:02,461 --> 00:16:03,895 of the ancient astronauts. 257 00:16:03,963 --> 00:16:07,048 TSOUKALOS: When Erich first went to India, he explored 258 00:16:07,132 --> 00:16:10,134 a whole bunch of different sites, and he quickly 259 00:16:10,236 --> 00:16:13,605 came to the realization that India is a treasure trove for 260 00:16:13,705 --> 00:16:18,309 the ancient astronaut theory, because all over India, we can 261 00:16:18,394 --> 00:16:23,982 find these magnificent temple towers that are referred to as 262 00:16:24,066 --> 00:16:28,052 "stupas" and also "vimanas." 263 00:16:28,153 --> 00:16:33,107 And so we have to ask ourselves, where did the form 264 00:16:33,158 --> 00:16:34,660 for a stupa come from? 265 00:16:35,961 --> 00:16:37,980 COPPENS: Another great contribution of Erich is that 266 00:16:38,014 --> 00:16:39,948 he focused on India. 267 00:16:39,999 --> 00:16:42,917 Very few people had really studied the ancient Indian 268 00:16:42,952 --> 00:16:45,470 civilization, even though it is thousands of years old. 269 00:16:46,171 --> 00:16:50,775 And what he saw there were structures which were alleged to 270 00:16:50,843 --> 00:16:53,612 have been replicas of vimanas. 271 00:16:54,413 --> 00:16:58,600 VON DANIKEN: So many Hindu temple in the Far East, they are 272 00:16:58,684 --> 00:17:03,288 representations in their architecture what was going up in the sky. 273 00:17:03,789 --> 00:17:05,474 So the upper part of a Hindu 274 00:17:05,475 --> 00:17:10,596 temple often is seen as a flying object, as a vimana. 275 00:17:11,763 --> 00:17:15,316 COPPENS: And basically what we're being confronted with is 276 00:17:15,451 --> 00:17:19,654 the realization that these people built in stone objects 277 00:17:19,705 --> 00:17:22,824 which they seem to have seen in the sky. 278 00:17:23,125 --> 00:17:26,377 MARTELL: When we look at the most ancient records we have, 279 00:17:26,462 --> 00:17:29,380 coming out of the Vedic texts in India, there are clear 280 00:17:29,481 --> 00:17:33,718 descriptions of aerial battles taking place with vimanas. 281 00:17:33,719 --> 00:17:35,841 So this really starts to raise the question 282 00:17:35,874 --> 00:17:38,974 about our own cycle of history. 283 00:17:39,675 --> 00:17:41,476 Is it completely linear? 284 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,395 Or is it possible that we're just starting to rediscover 285 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:48,483 ancient technology that did exist thousands of years ago? 286 00:17:48,567 --> 00:17:52,737 CHILDRESS: Ancient texts all over the world talk about flying 287 00:17:52,838 --> 00:18:01,212 vehicles, people who could fly through the air, flying horses. 288 00:18:01,246 --> 00:18:05,183 But it was Erich who really put it together. 289 00:18:05,217 --> 00:18:08,369 That the gods weren't just flying around like Superman; 290 00:18:08,487 --> 00:18:14,392 they had to get into some kind of nuts-and-bolts craft, 291 00:18:14,493 --> 00:18:17,779 just like we do, and go somewhere. 292 00:18:18,263 --> 00:18:21,401 And this was "The Chariots of the Gods". 293 00:18:23,202 --> 00:18:26,070 VON DANIKEN: Enoch tells us about the Guardians of the Sky 294 00:18:26,155 --> 00:18:27,773 who came down. 295 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:34,078 He says they are called fallen angels and they wanted to have 296 00:18:34,113 --> 00:18:39,052 sex with humans, and the offspring of it were giants. 297 00:18:41,537 --> 00:18:47,059 So there were sexual contacts between extraterrestrials and the humans. 298 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:49,661 TSOUKALOS: What does this mean? 299 00:18:50,029 --> 00:18:51,796 Well, it's very simple. 300 00:18:52,197 --> 00:18:55,717 Erich Von Daniken's interpretation was, we are 301 00:18:55,801 --> 00:19:00,722 nothing else but hybrids of an extraterrestrial race that 302 00:19:00,806 --> 00:19:05,646 jump-started our civilization thousands and thousands of years ago. 303 00:19:08,814 --> 00:19:14,702 And that extraterrestrials, in fact, gave us intelligence. 304 00:19:17,823 --> 00:19:24,245 Homo sapiens existed for 250,000 years. 305 00:19:24,329 --> 00:19:30,785 But only in the last 50,000 years, this quantum leap all of 306 00:19:30,836 --> 00:19:35,957 a sudden happened where we went from munching bananas in a cave 307 00:19:36,008 --> 00:19:39,663 to essentially building civilizations. 308 00:19:41,380 --> 00:19:44,333 COPPENS: Science is holding out great hope and expectation 309 00:19:44,384 --> 00:19:47,518 that at one point they will find this missing link between 310 00:19:47,603 --> 00:19:50,388 everything else on Planet Earth and us. 311 00:19:51,023 --> 00:19:54,727 But despite looking for over 150 years, they haven't come any closer. 312 00:19:55,961 --> 00:19:59,147 The answer might be found in what our ancestors have always said, 313 00:19:59,198 --> 00:20:02,700 which is that we have been made by the gods, that we are 314 00:20:02,785 --> 00:20:04,936 not like anything else here on Planet Earth. 315 00:20:04,937 --> 00:20:07,807 We stand out, because we have been created. 316 00:20:11,008 --> 00:20:13,344 LINDA MOULTON HOWE: As we look at the whole history of 317 00:20:13,378 --> 00:20:18,200 this planet, there is this huge question. 318 00:20:19,618 --> 00:20:24,472 How many advanced intelligences have been on this planet maybe 319 00:20:24,506 --> 00:20:30,027 for millions of years, terraforming, and manipulating 320 00:20:30,062 --> 00:20:35,483 genes in all kinds of life, and that maybe even modern human 321 00:20:35,517 --> 00:20:39,805 is one of those manipulated genetic creations. 322 00:20:40,873 --> 00:20:44,708 BAUVAL: Imagine all the knowledge human beings possessed. 323 00:20:45,094 --> 00:20:51,582 Astronomy, mathematics, engineering and writing, were 324 00:20:51,683 --> 00:20:54,036 brought down from heaven by the gods. 325 00:20:54,070 --> 00:20:57,523 It does raise the question, is Daniken right? 326 00:20:59,525 --> 00:21:03,594 Because even if there is the faintest possibility, a chance 327 00:21:03,695 --> 00:21:07,849 in a million, a chance in ten million that he is right, then 328 00:21:07,933 --> 00:21:08,634 everything changes. 329 00:21:09,935 --> 00:21:12,854 NARRATOR: Do ancient religious texts really provide 330 00:21:12,938 --> 00:21:17,425 evidence of alien contact with cultures throughout history? 331 00:21:18,110 --> 00:21:21,746 Chariots of the Gods had opened the door to much 332 00:21:21,780 --> 00:21:24,616 discussion, speculation, and criticism. 333 00:21:25,584 --> 00:21:28,587 But its enormous success also gave the Swiss writer 334 00:21:28,671 --> 00:21:32,541 the ability to travel the world in search of more answers. 335 00:21:33,575 --> 00:21:37,779 It was a search that would take him halfway across the globe, 336 00:21:37,830 --> 00:21:42,483 to see firsthand the ancient ruins of South America. 337 00:21:46,779 --> 00:21:49,030 NARRATOR: Bolivia, South America. 338 00:21:49,064 --> 00:21:53,568 Here lie the ruins of Puma Punku, a mysterious temple 339 00:21:53,619 --> 00:21:57,756 complex located in the ancient city of Tiahuanaco. 340 00:21:58,124 --> 00:22:02,629 It is believed to have been built about 2,000 years ago. 341 00:22:04,463 --> 00:22:08,066 The year he published his bestselling book Chariots of 342 00:22:08,134 --> 00:22:12,420 the Gods, author Erich Von Daniken made a pilgrimage to 343 00:22:12,471 --> 00:22:16,474 this archaeological site for more proof of his controversial 344 00:22:16,575 --> 00:22:20,962 theory that extraterrestrial beings had visited Earth 345 00:22:21,013 --> 00:22:22,847 in the distant past. 346 00:22:24,083 --> 00:22:26,434 VON DANIKEN: Puma Punku is in the highland of Bolivia. 347 00:22:26,769 --> 00:22:29,854 You stand there and you are absolutely shocked. 348 00:22:29,922 --> 00:22:33,908 There are gigantic platforms laying around. 349 00:22:33,943 --> 00:22:38,999 At that time, in 1968, there was no archaeological work done up there. 350 00:22:41,667 --> 00:22:44,602 MARTELL: When Erich Von Daniken arrived at Puma Punku, 351 00:22:44,670 --> 00:22:49,474 here he found evidence, clearly, of lost high technology. 352 00:22:49,908 --> 00:22:54,746 We see laser-perfection drilled holes, stone that has been 353 00:22:54,797 --> 00:22:56,747 somehow liquefied, or almost 354 00:22:56,849 --> 00:23:00,101 kind of made vitrified, and stuck together. 355 00:23:00,186 --> 00:23:03,823 This is not possible without the use of high technology. 356 00:23:06,692 --> 00:23:10,111 CHILDRESS: Erich was able to see these "H" blocks. 357 00:23:10,196 --> 00:23:16,284 They're big granite blocks all articulated and cut as if they 358 00:23:16,368 --> 00:23:21,272 were pre-manufactured, and in such a way that they would fit 359 00:23:21,290 --> 00:23:25,611 together and create these giant walls. 360 00:23:26,812 --> 00:23:33,835 It was such a high-tech kind of construction that it boggled 361 00:23:33,886 --> 00:23:35,438 everyone's mind. 362 00:23:36,889 --> 00:23:39,340 COPPENS: So what we have in Puma Punku is the traditional... 363 00:23:39,391 --> 00:23:42,760 what I would say Erich Von Daniken tackling archaeology. 364 00:23:42,928 --> 00:23:45,813 There is, within the methodology of how these stones were 365 00:23:45,898 --> 00:23:50,301 constructed, a certain degree of difficulty which our ancestors 366 00:23:50,319 --> 00:23:55,256 simply never attained in the surrounding landscape of Tiahuanaco. 367 00:23:55,690 --> 00:23:59,477 Stone carvers basically told him that it was almost impossible 368 00:23:59,495 --> 00:24:02,830 or extremely difficult to create these artifacts, and that 369 00:24:02,915 --> 00:24:06,367 specifically why they would be doing it is something which 370 00:24:06,418 --> 00:24:08,419 really defies explanation. 371 00:24:10,356 --> 00:24:13,157 NARRATOR: Another aspect of Puma Punku that captivated 372 00:24:13,192 --> 00:24:18,162 Von Daniken was the legend of its creation, as put forward by 373 00:24:18,197 --> 00:24:20,565 the indigenous people of the region. 374 00:24:21,183 --> 00:24:24,202 TSOUKALOS: The population living there are called the Aymara. 375 00:24:24,270 --> 00:24:28,890 And the Aymara themselves say that they had no involvement 376 00:24:28,941 --> 00:24:31,509 in building Puma Punku. 377 00:24:31,543 --> 00:24:35,363 In fact, when you ask them who built Puma Punku, they will 378 00:24:35,447 --> 00:24:39,216 point to the sky and they will say, "Los Dioses." 379 00:24:39,268 --> 00:24:40,404 The gods. 380 00:24:42,788 --> 00:24:44,355 VON DANIKEN: In Puma Punku 381 00:24:44,456 --> 00:24:50,695 they say, "The gods constructed the place in one night." 382 00:24:50,729 --> 00:24:52,813 This makes sense. 383 00:24:52,864 --> 00:24:55,566 You have an extraterrestrial crew, they come down to Earth. 384 00:24:56,601 --> 00:25:00,888 So they construct with their tools just something which we 385 00:25:00,973 --> 00:25:03,174 would call today a basic camp. 386 00:25:03,725 --> 00:25:07,412 They behaved themselves like archaeologists would do: they learn. 387 00:25:07,446 --> 00:25:10,448 They teach a little to humans, they learn their language... 388 00:25:10,482 --> 00:25:13,935 One day they disappeared, their job is over. 389 00:25:13,986 --> 00:25:18,790 They take all their instruments back to the mother spaceship, 390 00:25:19,091 --> 00:25:23,396 and left are only a few ruins of the basic camp. 391 00:25:25,063 --> 00:25:27,949 NARRATOR: Was Puma Punku really a base camp for 392 00:25:28,066 --> 00:25:32,136 extraterrestrials that visited Earth in the distant past? 393 00:25:32,254 --> 00:25:35,707 And were the magnificent stones that make up the ruins made with 394 00:25:35,774 --> 00:25:39,777 the help of advanced building methods? 395 00:25:39,812 --> 00:25:44,766 For Erich Von Daniken the answer was clearly "yes," 396 00:25:44,850 --> 00:25:49,687 and it compelled him to continue his search nearly 3,000 miles away 397 00:25:49,855 --> 00:25:53,193 at the ruins of another ancient city. 398 00:25:58,313 --> 00:26:01,284 Chichén Itzá, Mexico. 399 00:26:02,868 --> 00:26:06,287 Located on the Yucatán Peninsula are the ruins 400 00:26:06,321 --> 00:26:12,243 of an ancient Mayan city that thrived from 750 to 1200 A.D. 401 00:26:14,380 --> 00:26:18,583 It was here, in 1969, that Erich Von Daniken had 402 00:26:18,650 --> 00:26:25,255 an amazing realization involving the city's central pyramid of El Castillo. 403 00:26:27,326 --> 00:26:29,293 VON DANIKEN: I was standing before this great pyramid. 404 00:26:29,311 --> 00:26:30,294 I understood nothing. 405 00:26:30,312 --> 00:26:34,298 I took every possible literature from Central American 406 00:26:34,316 --> 00:26:38,036 archaeologists to learn what's this all about. 407 00:26:46,512 --> 00:26:54,317 And then I learned again, they are talking of visitors from outside. 408 00:26:54,419 --> 00:26:56,370 Of course they call them gods. 409 00:26:57,389 --> 00:26:59,323 TSOUKALOS: According to the ancient Mayan myths, their main 410 00:26:59,374 --> 00:27:03,294 deity was Quetzalcoatl or Kukulkan, Gukumatz. 411 00:27:03,345 --> 00:27:05,996 All those different names for the exact same deity, which was 412 00:27:06,014 --> 00:27:12,169 described to be a winged or a flying serpent, or a flying snake. 413 00:27:13,105 --> 00:27:16,524 Whatever it was that they saw up in the sky could best be 414 00:27:16,558 --> 00:27:20,178 described as a flying snake. 415 00:27:20,546 --> 00:27:23,564 COPPENS: When we're looking across the world, 416 00:27:23,615 --> 00:27:25,733 Chichén Itzá is a very important location. 417 00:27:25,784 --> 00:27:29,019 It is one of those places where it is said that the gods 418 00:27:29,121 --> 00:27:32,924 descended to and decreed a fate of mankind. 419 00:27:33,125 --> 00:27:37,194 And there is one specific pyramid, El Castillo, 420 00:27:37,246 --> 00:27:40,898 the castle, where you see an intricate light show happening 421 00:27:40,933 --> 00:27:46,671 on specifically the equinoxes, March 21 and September 21. 422 00:27:47,406 --> 00:27:50,374 VON DANIKEN: In the early morning you see the sun rising 423 00:27:50,409 --> 00:27:55,445 up, and while the sun goes up, you see on the stairway, 424 00:27:55,513 --> 00:27:59,100 light and shadow, triangles of light and shadow. 425 00:27:59,184 --> 00:28:01,385 They are produced because of the nine platforms. 426 00:28:01,420 --> 00:28:06,624 The light and shadow triangles slowly go down the step to the 427 00:28:06,658 --> 00:28:09,810 pyramid until the sun is up there. 428 00:28:09,844 --> 00:28:12,112 The message is absolutely clear. 429 00:28:12,163 --> 00:28:18,652 God Kukulkan visited the earth and disappeared again 430 00:28:18,703 --> 00:28:23,441 with the promise to return in a far away future. 431 00:28:23,775 --> 00:28:26,544 So they have given this whole information 432 00:28:26,595 --> 00:28:29,647 of the return of the gods into their temple. 433 00:28:30,881 --> 00:28:32,433 COPPENS: And I think this is one of the great things which 434 00:28:32,467 --> 00:28:35,085 Erich has done, not just in the story of Chichén Itzá, 435 00:28:35,103 --> 00:28:39,824 but of so many other aspects on other places in this world as well. 436 00:28:39,875 --> 00:28:41,459 Whereby he focuses on certain 437 00:28:41,527 --> 00:28:44,445 details and says, look, this is important. 438 00:28:44,530 --> 00:28:48,232 This is a detail which is extremely difficult to create. 439 00:28:48,299 --> 00:28:51,769 This is something which traditional archaeology tends to overlook. 440 00:28:52,504 --> 00:28:55,272 NARRATOR: By making a connection between the ancient 441 00:28:55,306 --> 00:28:58,942 Mayas' knowledge of astronomy and their precise architecture, 442 00:28:59,044 --> 00:29:02,946 Erich Von Daniken was convinced that there was much more to his 443 00:29:02,964 --> 00:29:06,550 ancient alien hypothesis than he had imagined. 444 00:29:06,968 --> 00:29:10,954 For further proof he looked to another Mayan temple. 445 00:29:11,022 --> 00:29:12,639 One that housed what some say 446 00:29:12,724 --> 00:29:16,794 was the first ancient astronaut Lord Pakal. 447 00:29:17,228 --> 00:29:21,298 CHILDRESS: At the ancient Mayan city of Palenque was a 448 00:29:21,332 --> 00:29:26,820 tomb that was discovered in the 1950s. 449 00:29:26,905 --> 00:29:35,529 And inside this tomb was a lid on the sarcophagus for Lord Pakal. 450 00:29:35,580 --> 00:29:43,003 And that lid is, is very highly decorated with a picture of Lord Pakal. 451 00:29:43,037 --> 00:29:45,724 And in that picture he's doing some really unusual things. 452 00:29:47,092 --> 00:29:48,025 VON DANIKEN: You see a man 453 00:29:48,093 --> 00:29:52,830 bending forward, almost like a racing motorcyclist. 454 00:29:52,864 --> 00:29:56,550 He has his nose on some kind of oxygen mask. 455 00:29:56,601 --> 00:30:00,053 He uses his upper hand to manipulate the knob. 456 00:30:00,105 --> 00:30:03,056 You see his lower hand, he manipulates some controls. 457 00:30:03,108 --> 00:30:05,192 He's sitting on a kind of chair. 458 00:30:05,276 --> 00:30:07,311 In a sort of a capsule. 459 00:30:08,029 --> 00:30:10,180 CHILDRESS: When Erich looked 460 00:30:10,231 --> 00:30:15,018 at that lid, he saw a Mayan king in a rocket ship. 461 00:30:15,053 --> 00:30:19,240 And that guy was returning to the stars, going back into space. 462 00:30:19,624 --> 00:30:21,492 It was an exciting interpretation. 463 00:30:21,643 --> 00:30:24,995 And it was one of the main things in Chariots of the Gods. 464 00:30:25,046 --> 00:30:27,998 And when other people looked at that lid and saw his 465 00:30:28,049 --> 00:30:32,236 explanation, they had to agree with him. 466 00:30:32,804 --> 00:30:37,241 NARRATOR: Could Erich Von Daniken be correct? 467 00:30:37,275 --> 00:30:41,061 Was Lord Pakal really an extraterrestrial who visited 468 00:30:41,146 --> 00:30:43,614 Earth in the distant past? 469 00:30:43,982 --> 00:30:48,435 One who perhaps shared highly advanced knowledge with mankind? 470 00:30:48,486 --> 00:30:53,056 After publishing his second book, Gods from Outer Space, 471 00:30:53,074 --> 00:30:57,611 in 1970, Erich Von Daniken now found himself caught in the 472 00:30:57,662 --> 00:31:01,582 crosshairs of a bitter fight between traditional science and 473 00:31:01,616 --> 00:31:05,435 conventional religion, which denounced the notion 474 00:31:05,503 --> 00:31:08,071 that life existed on other planets. 475 00:31:08,106 --> 00:31:13,411 It was a battle the author seemed ill-equipped to fight alone. 476 00:31:16,578 --> 00:31:18,546 NARRATOR: In the more than four decades since the 477 00:31:18,580 --> 00:31:22,616 publication of Chariots of the Gods, writer and researcher 478 00:31:22,650 --> 00:31:26,453 Erich Von Daniken has continued his search for the truth 479 00:31:26,487 --> 00:31:30,023 about mankind's otherworldly origins. 480 00:31:30,291 --> 00:31:32,509 VON DANIKEN: I wish and I hope that the society finally 481 00:31:32,593 --> 00:31:37,264 starts to take this proposition we make here serious, that the 482 00:31:37,331 --> 00:31:41,035 scientific community starts to think in this way. 483 00:31:41,502 --> 00:31:45,072 But I have to express one thing very clear: what I do here has 484 00:31:45,139 --> 00:31:51,778 nothing to do with a new religion. I would turn myself in my tomb 485 00:31:51,813 --> 00:31:56,216 if some idiots create a new religion according to my thinking. 486 00:31:56,684 --> 00:31:58,251 This is the last thing I wish. 487 00:31:58,286 --> 00:31:59,823 Absolutely not. 488 00:32:03,157 --> 00:32:06,409 NARRATOR: And joining Erich Von Daniken has been a small but 489 00:32:06,527 --> 00:32:09,663 growing number of what have become known as ancient 490 00:32:09,697 --> 00:32:13,533 astronaut theorists... men and women who have expanded and 491 00:32:13,534 --> 00:32:17,204 at times refined Von Daniken's findings. 492 00:32:17,505 --> 00:32:21,975 HOWE: I'm curious... how many people here have seen in their lifetime 493 00:32:22,009 --> 00:32:26,113 some unidentified aerial object in the sky? 494 00:32:26,147 --> 00:32:27,597 How many? Hands. 495 00:32:27,682 --> 00:32:31,852 You represent what I think is a slice of humanity everywhere 496 00:32:31,886 --> 00:32:36,323 because I am convinced that telling the human family of this 497 00:32:36,390 --> 00:32:41,731 planet the truth is probably what most souls are hungering for. 498 00:32:44,866 --> 00:32:48,502 PAUL VON WARD: One of the things that we know about human 499 00:32:48,569 --> 00:32:53,607 behavior is that it is shaped by our world view, our paradigm, 500 00:32:53,674 --> 00:32:57,511 and I would suggest that this is a very significant time to 501 00:32:57,578 --> 00:32:59,846 change this paradigm. 502 00:33:00,814 --> 00:33:05,101 We are not alone in the universe and that we are a part of this 503 00:33:05,186 --> 00:33:07,154 bigger network of life. 504 00:33:07,588 --> 00:33:10,857 TSOUKALOS: To me, personally I think there is a paradigm 505 00:33:10,925 --> 00:33:15,562 shift going on, and it's an incredibly positive movement 506 00:33:15,596 --> 00:33:19,467 because we're all in this together. 507 00:33:20,902 --> 00:33:25,822 VON DANIKEN: We live in a society which I call reasonable. 508 00:33:25,907 --> 00:33:31,661 To be reasonable means to believe what the scientists say. 509 00:33:31,746 --> 00:33:38,752 So it's up to us; just don't accept everything the reasonable ones say. 510 00:33:38,786 --> 00:33:41,021 Please be unreasonable. 511 00:33:41,055 --> 00:33:42,977 I am unreasonable. 512 00:33:47,228 --> 00:33:49,930 CHILDRESS: What I've really liked about Erich is that he 513 00:33:49,964 --> 00:33:53,516 does bring up a lot of unusual ideas. 514 00:33:53,568 --> 00:33:59,356 Uh, he points out inconsistencies in, uh, mainstream archaeology. 515 00:34:00,573 --> 00:34:04,361 I've never really bought into all of Erich's conclusions, 516 00:34:04,445 --> 00:34:06,496 but I was always interested in it. 517 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:11,701 So in many ways, he spurred me to go around the world... 518 00:34:11,752 --> 00:34:15,738 to remote islands, to unusual archaeological sites. 519 00:34:15,790 --> 00:34:18,091 I wanted to check them out for myself. 520 00:34:18,325 --> 00:34:21,294 Now, all of his explanations weren't always the explanation 521 00:34:21,328 --> 00:34:24,547 I would have given, but it's what's leading me and other 522 00:34:24,632 --> 00:34:26,716 people down a certain track: 523 00:34:26,767 --> 00:34:28,284 investigate this. 524 00:34:28,869 --> 00:34:30,353 Go check it out for yourself. 525 00:34:30,438 --> 00:34:32,206 Don't just take my word for it. 526 00:34:33,274 --> 00:34:36,743 COPPENS: When I began to explore ancient civilizations, 527 00:34:36,777 --> 00:34:40,614 in a library in Belgium, I stumbled upon a book by Erich 528 00:34:40,648 --> 00:34:43,083 Von Daniken, and I was hooked. 529 00:34:43,784 --> 00:34:48,288 Because I think I was one of thousands, if not millions, of 530 00:34:48,356 --> 00:34:53,110 people who began to realize that ancient history wasn't clear-cut. 531 00:34:53,461 --> 00:34:58,632 And he really, in me, began to open up this exploratory 532 00:34:58,699 --> 00:35:01,468 process, whereas I had always been interested in recent 533 00:35:01,535 --> 00:35:05,588 history, that really this mystery of the ancient world was 534 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,426 more complex, more beautiful and more interesting. 535 00:35:09,477 --> 00:35:13,613 And so in the last two decades, Erich has informed me on my path 536 00:35:13,648 --> 00:35:17,600 of saying: we need to explore, we need to open up our minds 537 00:35:17,652 --> 00:35:20,520 into trying to understand what our ancient ancestors were 538 00:35:20,554 --> 00:35:23,606 doing, because there are still gigantic question marks as to 539 00:35:23,724 --> 00:35:26,526 how our past has been created. 540 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,630 BAUVAL: We must be open to Erich Von Daniken. 541 00:35:30,031 --> 00:35:32,265 Daniken is the first man who... 542 00:35:32,333 --> 00:35:35,502 gutsily came out and faced the world in saying: I think it's 543 00:35:35,536 --> 00:35:39,673 possible... that ancient astronauts have come to visit 544 00:35:39,707 --> 00:35:44,811 our planet, and the pyramids, the various temples, all this 545 00:35:44,879 --> 00:35:48,217 was perhaps remnants of their visits. 546 00:35:50,418 --> 00:35:54,354 Now, I must say that I was a great skeptic on the ancient 547 00:35:54,421 --> 00:35:56,606 alien theory until recently. 548 00:35:56,657 --> 00:35:59,226 Because everything has changed for us skeptics. 549 00:35:59,593 --> 00:36:02,896 For example, within the last 12 years we've looked at the little 550 00:36:02,930 --> 00:36:06,533 patch of our galactic system, which is the Milky Way, and so 551 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,635 far we've found 3,000 planets. 552 00:36:09,070 --> 00:36:11,321 When we extrapolate the possibility over the whole 553 00:36:11,438 --> 00:36:14,324 galactic system, it's estimated that there must be about a 554 00:36:14,408 --> 00:36:16,977 billion planets in our galaxy alone. 555 00:36:17,912 --> 00:36:21,682 So the odds are extremely high of finding life out there. 556 00:36:22,917 --> 00:36:24,684 (rocket rumbling) 557 00:36:24,752 --> 00:36:26,886 Now, having said this, if we can 558 00:36:26,921 --> 00:36:29,022 go out there, why can't they come here? 559 00:36:29,457 --> 00:36:33,393 We must be open to possibility that life on this planet has 560 00:36:33,427 --> 00:36:36,230 been touched by extraterrestrial beings. 561 00:36:37,631 --> 00:36:41,034 TSOUKALOS: Thanks to my grandmother, growing up, ideas 562 00:36:41,135 --> 00:36:45,321 of ancient aliens and Atlantis and all those alternative 563 00:36:45,406 --> 00:36:50,844 viewpoints on history, that was dinner table conversation at my house. 564 00:36:51,445 --> 00:36:54,848 I grew up in Switzerland, and Erich Von Daniken was Swiss as 565 00:36:54,882 --> 00:37:00,370 well, and so I started to attend his lectures, I read and studied 566 00:37:00,421 --> 00:37:01,555 all of his books. 567 00:37:02,123 --> 00:37:07,127 I have been to places that Erich has described. 568 00:37:07,495 --> 00:37:12,332 It has opened my mind to possibilities, because the big 569 00:37:12,367 --> 00:37:16,936 point of Erich's books are the questions. 570 00:37:17,004 --> 00:37:23,894 What if everything in our past is not the way it's presented to be? 571 00:37:24,478 --> 00:37:30,468 What if our planet was visited by extraterrestrials in the past? 572 00:37:31,652 --> 00:37:36,122 That means that creation is even more magnificent than what we're 573 00:37:36,157 --> 00:37:41,127 being told, because the divine is permeating throughout the 574 00:37:41,195 --> 00:37:45,883 entire universe, not just on Planet Earth. 575 00:37:47,468 --> 00:37:52,822 In fact, Jesus himself said: My father's home has many rooms. 576 00:37:53,007 --> 00:37:57,010 And so what if that was just a metaphor to suggest that the 577 00:37:57,044 --> 00:38:02,732 universe houses a whole bunch of different species, that the 578 00:38:02,817 --> 00:38:07,522 universe is teeming with life and we all belong to it? 579 00:38:09,190 --> 00:38:12,125 NARRATOR: Although mainstream scholars have so far refused to 580 00:38:12,193 --> 00:38:16,029 acknowledge Erich Von Daniken's controversial theories as little 581 00:38:16,063 --> 00:38:20,166 more than pseudoscience, his exhaustive efforts on behalf of 582 00:38:20,201 --> 00:38:24,538 ancient astronaut theory have started to gain acceptance... 583 00:38:24,905 --> 00:38:27,608 not in the hallowed halls of academia... 584 00:38:28,742 --> 00:38:33,012 but with ordinary citizens... men and women who, like the 585 00:38:33,047 --> 00:38:37,984 Swiss author himself, prefer to ask their own questions... 586 00:38:38,018 --> 00:38:42,738 even if it means challenging Erich Von Daniken himself. 587 00:38:42,823 --> 00:38:47,160 MAN: The ancient alien hypothesis, what did you purport that was wrong? 588 00:38:49,525 --> 00:38:51,126 CROWD: Five! Four! Three! 589 00:38:51,161 --> 00:38:52,328 Two! One! 590 00:38:52,395 --> 00:38:53,329 (cheering) 591 00:38:53,396 --> 00:38:56,966 (rumbling) 592 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,969 NARRATOR: At a time when we have just begun to explore Mars 593 00:39:00,003 --> 00:39:05,140 and look forward to an era when space travel is commonplace, 594 00:39:05,175 --> 00:39:08,677 might we find the answers to the questions mankind has been 595 00:39:08,728 --> 00:39:10,180 asking for centuries? 596 00:39:10,414 --> 00:39:11,732 Who are we? 597 00:39:11,816 --> 00:39:14,117 Why are we here? 598 00:39:14,718 --> 00:39:17,253 CHILDRESS: We're gonna go back to the moon, and we're 599 00:39:17,321 --> 00:39:21,407 gonna go to Mars, and so once we become, ourselves, a 600 00:39:21,492 --> 00:39:25,328 a space-faring people, the idea of ancient astronauts coming 601 00:39:25,362 --> 00:39:28,265 here will be even more accepted, I think. 602 00:39:28,999 --> 00:39:31,968 COPPENS: It takes decades, sometimes centuries, before 603 00:39:32,035 --> 00:39:34,003 paradigm is changed. 604 00:39:34,037 --> 00:39:37,140 And I think what's going to be shown in the next decade is that 605 00:39:37,174 --> 00:39:40,410 society as a whole is going to explore this. 606 00:39:40,744 --> 00:39:43,980 And I think Erich is going to be perceived as really the 607 00:39:44,047 --> 00:39:47,317 instigator of this all, the man who was able to pose the 608 00:39:47,401 --> 00:39:51,321 question in such a way that it became acceptable for the people 609 00:39:51,355 --> 00:39:54,490 of the world to really ponder it. 610 00:39:54,525 --> 00:39:57,694 REDFERN: We have to bear in mind that he was talking about 611 00:39:57,761 --> 00:40:01,497 ancient astronaut stuff nearly 50 years ago and people are 612 00:40:01,532 --> 00:40:04,534 still talking about it to this day. 613 00:40:04,535 --> 00:40:07,938 The important thing is, if there was nothing to his work... 614 00:40:08,405 --> 00:40:10,974 the whole phenomena would have died a death. 615 00:40:11,942 --> 00:40:16,179 NARRATOR: Did ancient astronauts really come to Planet Earth? 616 00:40:16,930 --> 00:40:20,117 And if so, what was their purpose? 617 00:40:20,951 --> 00:40:25,355 And perhaps even more important, will they come again? 618 00:40:25,956 --> 00:40:31,311 CHILDRESS: These highly developed people, with high 619 00:40:31,395 --> 00:40:35,865 technology, high civilization, would interact with these 620 00:40:35,933 --> 00:40:42,038 primitive humans and show them certain things, including 621 00:40:42,106 --> 00:40:46,576 agriculture and building techniques and how to live 622 00:40:46,610 --> 00:40:52,114 together in harmony in order to try to develop civilization and 623 00:40:52,132 --> 00:40:58,385 bring us to a higher state, and the state that we're living in today. 624 00:40:59,156 --> 00:41:00,757 The ancient alien hypothesis, 625 00:41:00,791 --> 00:41:04,393 what have you jettisoned in the intervening time? 626 00:41:04,428 --> 00:41:07,063 What did you purport that was wrong, and what have you revised? 627 00:41:07,130 --> 00:41:10,132 VON DANIKEN: Of course, when I was young I was enthusiastic, 628 00:41:10,150 --> 00:41:14,904 and I was not so proper in researching, so there were a 629 00:41:14,938 --> 00:41:18,358 few things which I had to learn I was wrong. 630 00:41:18,442 --> 00:41:21,577 And then you accept you were wrong, but you try with every 631 00:41:21,645 --> 00:41:23,112 book to become better. 632 00:41:23,146 --> 00:41:27,450 Because, ladies and gentlemen, I learned we must continue to 633 00:41:27,484 --> 00:41:28,918 ask the questions. 634 00:41:29,002 --> 00:41:32,455 Our scientists have a tunnel view. 635 00:41:32,489 --> 00:41:38,094 They don't want to see things which go further than their thinking. 636 00:41:38,128 --> 00:41:43,266 And that's why we all here, we change the thinking, the 637 00:41:43,300 --> 00:41:45,935 consciousness of all this society. 638 00:41:46,002 --> 00:41:47,103 Thank you. 639 00:41:47,187 --> 00:41:49,272 (cheering, applause) 640 00:41:49,339 --> 00:41:53,276 REDFERN: Inevitably, anyone that reads Von Daniken's books 641 00:41:53,310 --> 00:41:57,113 and thinks carefully about his work whether they accept his 642 00:41:57,181 --> 00:42:01,818 conclusions or not, they cannot fail to wonder and ponder on the 643 00:42:01,869 --> 00:42:06,072 idea of: has religion actually got it wrong, were we just 644 00:42:06,156 --> 00:42:11,461 really visited by ancient aliens and nothing else... and we've 645 00:42:11,528 --> 00:42:14,530 incorporated that into our belief systems and created these 646 00:42:14,548 --> 00:42:20,754 structured religions which are based on ancient UFO visits? 647 00:42:22,055 --> 00:42:26,676 VON DANIKEN: Looking at our planet, we have two groups of human. 648 00:42:26,910 --> 00:42:29,011 One group is religious. 649 00:42:29,046 --> 00:42:32,548 ♪ ♪ 650 00:42:32,549 --> 00:42:35,718 The other group is a scientific group. 651 00:42:35,736 --> 00:42:40,189 The religious group believe that God created everything, 652 00:42:40,240 --> 00:42:44,444 the whole universe...the suns, the solar systems, the trees, 653 00:42:44,528 --> 00:42:50,333 the plants, the animal, but we humans are the crown of creation. 654 00:42:50,367 --> 00:42:53,369 ♪ ♪ 655 00:42:53,403 --> 00:42:57,507 The other group, the scientific group, they think we know 656 00:42:57,541 --> 00:43:02,779 everything about mutation, selection, that we are on top of evolution. 657 00:43:02,913 --> 00:43:07,984 Now, in both cases we think we humans are the greatest. 658 00:43:10,604 --> 00:43:13,523 There is nothing higher than we. 659 00:43:13,590 --> 00:43:19,046 We have to learn that we are just one of the million species out there. 660 00:43:20,230 --> 00:43:22,465 We have been visited and it continues. 661 00:43:22,900 --> 00:43:26,302 These visitors will return to Earth again. 662 00:43:26,737 --> 00:43:29,071 ♪ ♪ 663 00:43:29,106 --> 00:43:33,075 NARRATOR: Will mankind's origins remain a mystery? 664 00:43:33,126 --> 00:43:38,247 Perhaps the answers lie right in front of us, in every corner of 665 00:43:38,282 --> 00:43:43,503 the globe, and all we need to do is what Erich Von Daniken began 666 00:43:43,587 --> 00:43:50,659 doing more than half a century ago... keep digging... keep exploring... 667 00:43:51,293 --> 00:43:53,893 and keep watching the skies. 667 00:43:54,305 --> 00:44:00,555 Support us and become VIP member to remove all ads from www.OpenSubtitles.org 59507

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