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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:12,330 --> 00:00:15,930 When I watch cult documentaries, I get jealous that they're episode two. 2 00:00:17,810 --> 00:00:22,230 They show people, oh, we were all coming together. We're all in this commune and 3 00:00:22,230 --> 00:00:23,250 we're doing yoga together. 4 00:00:24,150 --> 00:00:29,250 We never had that. We never had the episode two. It's not like the children 5 00:00:29,250 --> 00:00:32,270 God cult. This is not wild, wild country. 6 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,860 It's this isolating thing where there's no compound for the cult. There's no 7 00:00:39,860 --> 00:00:42,120 community to it. 8 00:00:43,100 --> 00:00:47,740 It's people so spread out. Everything revolves around Michael. 9 00:00:48,500 --> 00:00:50,040 And we can't get out. 10 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:52,580 You will never be out. 11 00:01:03,020 --> 00:01:06,040 One of the most heartbreaking tragedies we have ever heard. 12 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,360 Neighbors are understandably stunned. 13 00:01:10,220 --> 00:01:13,500 This bomb's actions are a calculated act of evil. 14 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,060 These events are beyond our ability to understand. 15 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:21,860 Number one question. 16 00:01:22,340 --> 00:01:23,960 Why? Why? 17 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:25,200 Why? 18 00:01:34,380 --> 00:01:39,260 I honestly don't know what precipitated Andrea's breakdown. 19 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,820 She never said anything about what she was struggling with. 20 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,820 But, of course, having kids is stressful. 21 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,500 Living in a small space can be extra stress. 22 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:58,040 But I never really realized that, coupled with her exposure to the 23 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:59,260 could be troubling. 24 00:02:03,020 --> 00:02:09,139 In 1999, a few months after Luke was born, Andrea had another incident. 25 00:02:10,580 --> 00:02:15,800 We were still at Andrea's mother's house, and Andrea had walked off. 26 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:19,900 I'm like, where's Andrea? 27 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:29,640 I opened the bathroom door, and there she is standing looking at herself 28 00:02:29,640 --> 00:02:30,640 in the mirror. 29 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:32,720 With the knife up to her neck. 30 00:02:33,220 --> 00:02:36,580 We have the sacrifice, but where is the offering? 31 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:38,280 I said, hey, give me the knife. 32 00:02:38,500 --> 00:02:40,660 Faith takes you to that extent. 33 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,020 She just stood there, catatonic. 34 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:48,680 Faith takes you to that point where you lift the knife. 35 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:58,200 She didn't actually harm herself, but she was hospitalized 36 00:02:58,200 --> 00:02:59,200 at that point. 37 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:04,160 The doctors told me Andrea had postpartum depression. 38 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:12,340 They explained the seriousness of the illness, that women who have postpartum 39 00:03:12,340 --> 00:03:15,380 depression can develop postpartum psychosis. 40 00:03:16,220 --> 00:03:20,240 But I didn't know what psychosis looked like, what it meant. 41 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:25,080 It would have helped a lot to know that, hey, just if you see a person, a loved 42 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,860 one, during that postpartum period, they may not be thinking. 43 00:03:28,670 --> 00:03:31,950 The way they always think, and in fact, if they are believing things to be true 44 00:03:31,950 --> 00:03:35,130 that aren't, it may be very dangerous. 45 00:03:38,190 --> 00:03:44,010 The doctors gave her some combination of medicines that brought her from off 46 00:03:44,010 --> 00:03:45,790 -road back to her normal way of thinking. 47 00:03:46,410 --> 00:03:50,510 And they said, well, you know, I wouldn't recommend having more children. 48 00:03:51,270 --> 00:03:54,350 One of your own seeds shall be your inheritance. 49 00:03:54,670 --> 00:03:57,230 You must give birth to life. 50 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,340 We asked, hey, what's the risk? 51 00:04:00,860 --> 00:04:06,760 They're like, well, there's 50 -50 chance that if she has another child, 52 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:11,540 relapse and she'll exhibit the same symptoms and require the same treatment. 53 00:04:13,620 --> 00:04:17,040 It'd be fair to say, okay, well, there was a risk to her. 54 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:18,420 She did get sick again. 55 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,560 She could try to harm herself again. 56 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:22,760 But I didn't even think that at the time. 57 00:04:23,630 --> 00:04:27,670 I just thought, okay, she'll get sick. Worst case, it'll be like a flu. She'll 58 00:04:27,670 --> 00:04:33,130 get treated with the same medicines that were for her before, and we'll be done. 59 00:04:33,250 --> 00:04:34,650 That's simple enough, right? 60 00:04:39,510 --> 00:04:43,670 Throughout my childhood, Michael had strongly encouraged us to live in a bus 61 00:04:43,670 --> 00:04:44,910 like his family. 62 00:04:45,910 --> 00:04:47,790 But this boy, my... 63 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:53,800 We're barely paying the bills at a campground, which is $40 a week. That's 64 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:58,040 almost no money. So my mom gets a job as an activities director. 65 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:03,680 And that's the first time we were actually around human beings that were 66 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:04,980 Michael's kids. 67 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,560 My oldest sister is about 12 years old. 68 00:05:11,180 --> 00:05:13,500 Then she meets this girl, Megan. 69 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,020 Heard Megan hit it off like two 12 -year -olds would. 70 00:05:19,690 --> 00:05:25,970 We're back in the bus, and you know what? 71 00:05:26,970 --> 00:05:31,490 Megan, I really like Megan. That was really fun. 72 00:05:32,850 --> 00:05:37,630 And the pH level in the room changes. 73 00:05:38,650 --> 00:05:44,350 My mom overhears this, saying that she liked another girl. 74 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:50,940 Having a friend outside, meaning you're letting Satan inside your heart. You 75 00:05:50,940 --> 00:05:56,180 have a connection with a girl that's not in Michael's teachings, that's not the 76 00:05:56,180 --> 00:05:57,180 chosen one. 77 00:05:57,740 --> 00:06:03,440 So then she was in probably the most amount of trouble I've ever seen. 78 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:09,600 And the word trouble is pain. She was beaten for an entire day. 79 00:06:11,180 --> 00:06:14,560 That is something that Michael would... 80 00:06:15,299 --> 00:06:17,780 Approve of. Not only approve of, he would encourage. 81 00:06:18,820 --> 00:06:21,200 Stank him hard, so it hurts. 82 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,200 The Bible says, runes scour away evil. 83 00:06:27,420 --> 00:06:32,040 All because she said that she liked another girl. 84 00:06:33,280 --> 00:06:34,460 She liked a friend. 85 00:06:45,230 --> 00:06:48,510 You know, I don't think there's much more of a more beautiful thing in 86 00:06:48,510 --> 00:06:54,790 that God has given as a beautiful reflection of what it means to be born 87 00:06:54,790 --> 00:06:56,790 than the butterfly and the cocoon. 88 00:07:00,070 --> 00:07:06,310 So in this pamphlet, Bringing the Inside Out, Michael talked about 89 00:07:06,310 --> 00:07:08,650 the butterfly and the cocoon. 90 00:07:09,580 --> 00:07:15,780 God put the metamorphosis of a worm and a butterfly into creation as a most 91 00:07:15,780 --> 00:07:19,640 glorious witness to the work of transformation. 92 00:07:21,460 --> 00:07:27,160 What that means in Michael's terms is that you need to become a butterfly. 93 00:07:27,460 --> 00:07:29,840 Butterfly is you being saved. 94 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,500 These worms are crawling on each other, trying to get to the top. And finally, 95 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,100 this worm just splits on his own. 96 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,900 And you know what? He starts to spin a cocoon. 97 00:07:38,670 --> 00:07:44,010 And to really get to know God, who's going to make you a butterfly, you have 98 00:07:44,010 --> 00:07:45,130 go into a cocoon. 99 00:07:45,630 --> 00:07:49,450 So you enter this phase of isolation. 100 00:07:51,110 --> 00:07:53,070 A lot of time in that cocoon. 101 00:07:53,330 --> 00:07:54,890 Scary experience of changing. 102 00:07:55,850 --> 00:07:57,810 A lot of struggle. A lot of suffering. 103 00:07:58,450 --> 00:08:03,530 He has purposely designed this system where you are cut off from the rest of 104 00:08:03,530 --> 00:08:05,970 world. All of your personal relationships. 105 00:08:06,410 --> 00:08:08,010 Everything that human beings... 106 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,840 were meant to do here. 107 00:08:11,180 --> 00:08:17,820 Connection, love, death, all of that is now revolving around Michael 108 00:08:17,820 --> 00:08:23,960 himself. It's going to be a life of solitude, rejection, persecution, 109 00:08:24,500 --> 00:08:29,000 isolation, loneliness, and struggle. 110 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,220 No one ever became a butterfly. 111 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:46,580 When I graduated college, I was offered a job at General Mills, and I was 112 00:08:46,580 --> 00:08:49,840 excited, you know, because General Mills was a Fortune 500 company. 113 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:58,240 That was my first sale with General Mills, and they got monster after that, 114 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,360 know. I was good at what I did. You know, I have a gregarious personality. 115 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,940 People do like me, and so I did really well. 116 00:09:04,680 --> 00:09:08,760 On one hand, I had a company car and a salary and a bonus. 117 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:13,000 But on the other side, I'm feeling guilty, you know, because I've absorbed 118 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:17,200 enough of Michael's teachings that I know a job is wrong. I know a job is 119 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:18,760 cooperating with saints. 120 00:09:19,100 --> 00:09:20,520 But I have to work. 121 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,680 I have to earn an income. 122 00:09:23,180 --> 00:09:28,720 When all your life is consumed with working, there's more to life than the 123 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:29,720 network. 124 00:09:29,940 --> 00:09:34,720 I'm not there. I'm not getting Mike's approval. I'm conflicted. And so for the 125 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,560 next two years, I embrace getting the tape. 126 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:42,300 I was in that learning phase, you know, and I was developing spiritually, 127 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:49,060 understanding more of his teaching, understanding more of the path I need to 128 00:09:49,060 --> 00:09:50,060 by. 129 00:09:51,500 --> 00:09:53,160 I wanted to learn more. 130 00:09:55,100 --> 00:09:59,820 And then I received a handwritten note from his wife, Rachel. 131 00:10:05,450 --> 00:10:11,330 What I found peculiar, though, was the closing in her note. She ended with, in 132 00:10:11,330 --> 00:10:13,930 Jesus, Michael's servant, Rachel. 133 00:10:15,110 --> 00:10:19,690 I did not understand why she's labeling herself that way, a servant. 134 00:10:20,670 --> 00:10:27,170 But after reading the track, The Witch and the Wimp, I understood. 135 00:10:33,660 --> 00:10:38,660 In The Witch and the Wimp, Michael says that all women, as a result of Eve's 136 00:10:38,660 --> 00:10:42,260 disobedience to God, inherit a witchcraft nature. 137 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,580 All you got to do is look at your mom, look at your sister, look at your 138 00:10:45,580 --> 00:10:47,740 neighbor, look around, the women. 139 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:53,500 This witchcraft nature seeks to control and dominate men. 140 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,620 And if you are going to be a real man of God, you're not going to tolerate. 141 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,180 being ruled by a contentious woman, a witch. 142 00:11:01,420 --> 00:11:04,460 You don't need a cauldron. You don't need a broomstick. You know, all you 143 00:11:04,460 --> 00:11:06,460 is that little contentious heart. 144 00:11:08,900 --> 00:11:12,020 In that track, Mike revealed the true nature of women. 145 00:11:12,620 --> 00:11:16,380 That explains the way Rachel closed her letter. 146 00:11:16,780 --> 00:11:19,440 She's Michael's servant, not his wife. 147 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,220 After that, I began to see men oppressed by their contentious wives. 148 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:29,880 Every time I turned on the television, I would see shows like Married with 149 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:35,660 Children or Roseanne, the controlling woman and the passive man who let the 150 00:11:35,660 --> 00:11:39,320 woman call the shots. I was seeing witches and wimps everywhere. 151 00:11:40,300 --> 00:11:42,620 I really believed I was seeing that. 152 00:11:43,980 --> 00:11:50,220 It was a very powerful paradigm shift on how you view the relationship of a man 153 00:11:50,220 --> 00:11:51,220 and woman. 154 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,300 I have this thing, pin that I wear that says, I love to submit to my husband. 155 00:11:55,300 --> 00:11:59,120 Yeah, Elizabeth was talking about that on the table. Those guys from Texas A &M 156 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:04,840 saw my wife has a button. I love to submit to my husband. And then it has 157 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:09,200 the verses, you know, throughout. It's like she's got a weird thing on, a 158 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:10,440 stinky, smelly. 159 00:12:10,780 --> 00:12:17,760 I love to wear that button because that is my 160 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:18,719 place of security. 161 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,700 When I try to get out of that place or I walk or the contention of my nature, 162 00:12:22,740 --> 00:12:24,100 the iniquity rises up. 163 00:12:24,650 --> 00:12:28,890 It's like I'm out of nowhere. You can't be there and have that relationship. 164 00:12:28,890 --> 00:12:33,130 It's not like we're trying to depict a walk in the garden kind of relationship. 165 00:12:33,570 --> 00:12:34,750 It's a constant. 166 00:12:35,010 --> 00:12:39,950 Because of that, I have to constantly confront my wife with her nature. 167 00:12:40,270 --> 00:12:42,710 Constantly. Because it's wicked. It's so deep. 168 00:12:43,950 --> 00:12:44,950 Wow. 169 00:12:46,010 --> 00:12:50,210 Teaching -wise, it seems consistent with what they've said in their tracks. 170 00:12:51,250 --> 00:12:53,750 The submissive role of the wife. 171 00:12:54,940 --> 00:13:01,720 The man, like, the head of the mayor's... I don't agree with that now 172 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:07,360 all, but at the time, I think I would have agreed with it. 173 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,720 I know we had that kind of in our family. You know, we had a more 174 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:18,840 family, and Andrea looked to me to make significant decisions, and I mistakenly 175 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,680 would assume that if it's bad for her, she'll speak up, but looking back, I 176 00:13:22,680 --> 00:13:23,680 don't think that's true. 177 00:13:26,700 --> 00:13:31,540 After the knife incident, Andrea was released from the hospital, and I 178 00:13:31,580 --> 00:13:36,580 let's try to get a more comfortable home environment. So we found a house close 179 00:13:36,580 --> 00:13:37,700 to my job at NASA. 180 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,560 Not real big, but just right for us, especially coming out of an RV. 181 00:13:42,660 --> 00:13:47,560 For some number of months after that, she started doing a lot better. 182 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:53,880 Andrea went from being catatonic to up and about, communicative. 183 00:14:00,300 --> 00:14:03,860 Really gave me a lot of hope because I thought, oh, this can work out. 184 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:09,020 Stimulants can drive millions of people into mental wards, into drugs, into all 185 00:14:09,020 --> 00:14:10,820 kinds of false hype and stimulus. 186 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:17,460 And then by the end of 99, Andrea didn't want to take any more meds. She's like, 187 00:14:17,540 --> 00:14:22,040 I don't want to take any more of anything. So she stopped. 188 00:14:24,590 --> 00:14:28,970 At the time, going in even to our marriage, we said, well, we're going to 189 00:14:28,970 --> 00:14:34,050 however many children that come along, right? And right or wrong, that's what 190 00:14:34,050 --> 00:14:36,910 decided. There's the baby. There's the baby in there. 191 00:14:37,370 --> 00:14:38,730 It was within a year. 192 00:14:39,050 --> 00:14:40,050 The new mother. 193 00:14:40,290 --> 00:14:41,290 Hello. 194 00:14:42,790 --> 00:14:44,630 We got pregnant with Mary. 195 00:14:46,370 --> 00:14:50,370 The risk of having another child was the flu. 196 00:14:51,979 --> 00:14:53,980 that, you know, that was a risk worth taking. 197 00:14:54,980 --> 00:15:01,860 When I got a promotion to have 198 00:15:01,860 --> 00:15:05,860 New Mexico as my wholesale territory, I moved to Albuquerque. 199 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,460 That's where I met a really kind and caring girl. 200 00:15:12,500 --> 00:15:13,980 That was our first date. 201 00:15:15,220 --> 00:15:19,340 I'm not a bad date, you know. I'm full of devil, but I do a good first date. 202 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,900 She was working on a master's degree at the University of New Mexico, and we 203 00:15:26,900 --> 00:15:28,560 quickly became close friends. 204 00:15:30,060 --> 00:15:32,180 About a year later, we became engaged. 205 00:15:34,860 --> 00:15:40,440 I slowly introduced her to Mike by having her listen to some of the tapes. 206 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,960 If you're a woman of God, you will, out of compassion and love for your husband, 207 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:46,160 learn to submit. 208 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,920 Her present issue was that, David, this guy sounds kind of weird. 209 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,580 Your mind is occupied with your wickedness. 210 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,280 The truth is you don't know how bad you are. 211 00:15:55,500 --> 00:15:57,100 I think she even used the word creepy. 212 00:15:59,700 --> 00:16:04,180 Then one day Mike called me on the phone, and he said we were going to 213 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:09,400 and it's very costly to go there, and so this is how you can wire money to help 214 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:10,400 them with their trip. 215 00:16:10,500 --> 00:16:11,740 And so I did. 216 00:16:12,060 --> 00:16:16,660 In about a 10 -year time period, I probably gave Mike and his family a 217 00:16:16,660 --> 00:16:17,660 under $20 ,000. 218 00:16:20,220 --> 00:16:23,780 During our phone conversation, he asked what the latest would be, and I just 219 00:16:23,780 --> 00:16:25,300 told him that I was engaged. 220 00:16:25,860 --> 00:16:28,380 And he said, David, you know that's not a wise idea. 221 00:16:28,740 --> 00:16:30,840 And I said, yeah, you know, I'm sorry. 222 00:16:31,380 --> 00:16:36,060 In the heart of every single woman is the powerful thwart of Satan to demean, 223 00:16:36,060 --> 00:16:39,920 oppress, to attack the men of God, to nullify God's word. 224 00:16:41,020 --> 00:16:45,960 Mike teaches that until a man has direct revelation for God, it's not good that 225 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,900 he become married because the contentious woman will be a distraction. 226 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,180 All I can do is warn you. 227 00:16:54,280 --> 00:17:01,120 The next day or two days after, I called Diane and I downplayed it. I told her 228 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:05,040 that in my spiritual development, it's just not a good time for me to be 229 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,000 thinking of marriage or even to be engaged. 230 00:17:08,079 --> 00:17:10,619 I'm sorry, but we're just going to have to call this off. 231 00:17:17,700 --> 00:17:21,720 After I called off the engagement, I was too numb to feel a thing. 232 00:17:22,319 --> 00:17:25,000 But afterwards, I cried. 233 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,240 She was a wonderful girl, and she loved me. 234 00:17:29,780 --> 00:17:30,880 She really did. 235 00:17:36,970 --> 00:17:42,330 My dad, Mark, when he was out street preaching, he would get in trouble with 236 00:17:42,330 --> 00:17:44,690 Michael because he wouldn't street preach loud enough. 237 00:17:46,790 --> 00:17:52,810 Michael said that he was beyond saving. He was a wimp of a man. 238 00:17:53,550 --> 00:18:00,550 It made for a contentious situation because my dad is naturally submissive 239 00:18:00,550 --> 00:18:03,390 not the alpha in a group. 240 00:18:06,170 --> 00:18:09,450 Michael completely shifted the power dynamics in my family. 241 00:18:09,830 --> 00:18:13,770 And my mom and dad stopped talking at this point. 242 00:18:14,750 --> 00:18:16,270 It was very hostile. 243 00:18:17,050 --> 00:18:20,790 So, in 1998, they eventually divorced. 244 00:18:21,870 --> 00:18:23,670 I got too close to the water. 245 00:18:24,810 --> 00:18:30,370 My mom got custody of the five kids, provided that my dad gets custody of the 246 00:18:30,370 --> 00:18:31,370 bus. 247 00:18:32,330 --> 00:18:36,250 He takes the bus, and in the bus... It's all Michael's tapes. 248 00:18:36,670 --> 00:18:41,930 And my mom believed that they were the secret to salvation, the shortcut to 249 00:18:41,930 --> 00:18:42,930 heaven. 250 00:18:46,410 --> 00:18:51,550 So my mom matches a plan where there's one bus window that doesn't close all 251 00:18:51,550 --> 00:18:52,590 way. It never closed. 252 00:18:53,410 --> 00:18:58,190 So my mom has me slip into the bus while my dad is out. 253 00:18:58,470 --> 00:19:04,250 And I steal all of Michael's tapes back so that we can have those to listen to. 254 00:19:11,790 --> 00:19:14,730 I didn't stay in constant communication with Warnecki. 255 00:19:15,110 --> 00:19:19,750 Living was more about just managing, taking care of the kids, getting 256 00:19:19,750 --> 00:19:20,750 done. 257 00:19:21,150 --> 00:19:24,930 But I didn't discourage Andrea from writing if she wanted to write. 258 00:19:25,250 --> 00:19:28,230 That's her business, you know, her choice. 259 00:19:38,010 --> 00:19:40,610 Dear Andrea, praise Jesus. 260 00:19:41,830 --> 00:19:44,150 I hope your pregnancy and birth goes good. 261 00:19:45,230 --> 00:19:47,190 We have a new addition to our family. 262 00:19:47,950 --> 00:19:50,010 This is our little girl that was born today. 263 00:19:50,690 --> 00:19:53,250 Mary was born in November 2000. 264 00:19:54,090 --> 00:19:56,930 What do you think about having a sister this time instead of a little brother? 265 00:19:57,630 --> 00:19:59,050 I still believe it. 266 00:20:01,030 --> 00:20:05,710 But most importantly, that you would come to know Jesus and be able to give 267 00:20:05,710 --> 00:20:06,710 to your children. 268 00:20:06,910 --> 00:20:08,670 Mary was a beautiful little girl. 269 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,380 I held her up, and she leaned forward like she wanted to kiss me. That was the 270 00:20:12,380 --> 00:20:13,820 sweetest thing. 271 00:20:14,120 --> 00:20:18,240 I pray for you, Andrea, for you, Rusty, and your family. 272 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,460 At first, Andrea seemed perfectly fine. 273 00:20:21,340 --> 00:20:23,760 I know things are not the way you would like them to be. 274 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:29,380 But then a few months after, Andrea just plummeted very quickly down to the 275 00:20:29,380 --> 00:20:33,620 state where she was in 99, which, of course, raised the flag. 276 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:38,420 I've seen many women just continually put off their salvation in Jesus. 277 00:20:39,100 --> 00:20:41,980 Her symptoms recurred very quickly. 278 00:20:42,360 --> 00:20:46,240 Jesus knows how wicked you are, how weak and vulnerable. 279 00:20:46,740 --> 00:20:52,200 She went from being kind of what seemed like normal to in a worse state. 280 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,600 I know you're frustrated, Andrea. 281 00:20:57,740 --> 00:21:01,640 She was just staring blankly ahead, had a scissor leg. 282 00:21:02,270 --> 00:21:04,190 picking at her hair, not saying anything. 283 00:21:05,330 --> 00:21:07,250 You are accountable for these children. 284 00:21:07,850 --> 00:21:08,970 You can change them. 285 00:21:09,430 --> 00:21:11,710 There will be a day when it is too late. 286 00:21:13,310 --> 00:21:16,230 So I called around to try to see a psychiatrist. 287 00:21:16,570 --> 00:21:19,730 Oh, yeah, we got an opening, six weeks. I'm like, we don't have six weeks, you 288 00:21:19,730 --> 00:21:20,629 know. 289 00:21:20,630 --> 00:21:23,130 I didn't know what to do. I'm like, who do you call? 290 00:21:23,870 --> 00:21:24,870 Don't look to Russell. 291 00:21:25,450 --> 00:21:26,450 Look to Jesus. 292 00:21:26,990 --> 00:21:29,630 I was at my wit's end at that time. 293 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:36,840 If you allow Satan to come in and still be understanding, the consequences will 294 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:37,840 be tragic. 295 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,140 Everything was out of control. 296 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:43,980 Love and Jesus. Rachel. 297 00:22:00,110 --> 00:22:05,490 The time I got this booklet, I figured this could really well be my last chance 298 00:22:05,490 --> 00:22:06,490 at salvation. 299 00:22:06,630 --> 00:22:10,650 You have got to go through that cocoon, that struggle, all on your own. 300 00:22:11,610 --> 00:22:15,210 There are only eight butterflies on the face of the whole earth. 301 00:22:15,870 --> 00:22:20,810 They all have the last name Warnecke, but I was really feeling that I could be 302 00:22:20,810 --> 00:22:26,730 the ninth one and join them in this spirit world of complete joy in Jesus 303 00:22:26,730 --> 00:22:27,730 Christ. 304 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,220 Sacrifice is the essence, the center of salvation. 305 00:22:32,180 --> 00:22:33,680 So you have to sacrifice. 306 00:22:34,060 --> 00:22:35,540 And what do you have to sacrifice? 307 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,700 You have to sacrifice yourself. 308 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:44,720 At this point, I believe I was my most devoted and faithful follower, except 309 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:45,720 thing. 310 00:22:46,100 --> 00:22:47,900 My job was holding me back. 311 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:53,080 Please get off your lazy butt, turn away from yourselves, and watch God 312 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:54,200 supernaturally provide. 313 00:22:54,700 --> 00:22:57,220 The test of my faith would be to quit my job. 314 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:02,940 Don't worry about how am I going to pay my bills. I will now be 100 % dependent 315 00:23:02,940 --> 00:23:05,020 and faithful that God will provide somehow. 316 00:23:05,500 --> 00:23:07,440 Everything is work. You're under a curse, friend. 317 00:23:07,820 --> 00:23:09,560 And so that's when I quit my job. 318 00:23:09,940 --> 00:23:14,180 To deny yourself is the key to victory because you are your greatest enemy. 319 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,340 I would go to the mountain with my Bible and all of Mike's material. 320 00:23:21,070 --> 00:23:26,490 Free from distraction where I could solely concentrate on finding God and 321 00:23:26,490 --> 00:23:27,490 receiving revelation. 322 00:23:30,590 --> 00:23:35,070 I would just pray and ask God, you know, please give me light. God, you know I 323 00:23:35,070 --> 00:23:36,070 want you. 324 00:23:37,810 --> 00:23:44,350 Every night, I'd be begging, pleading, please open my eyes. 325 00:23:47,530 --> 00:23:49,750 But there was no divine encounter. 326 00:23:51,500 --> 00:23:56,740 And so with the little strength I had, but the last vestiges of hope, I just 327 00:23:56,740 --> 00:23:57,740 kept crying. 328 00:23:58,980 --> 00:24:01,200 And I was listening to one of his tapes. 329 00:24:01,460 --> 00:24:03,960 Well, as you live, so shall you die. 330 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,140 You don't want to think about what might really be wrong. 331 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,680 At that point, I started shutting down. 332 00:24:10,460 --> 00:24:13,160 You can't do what God requires. 333 00:24:13,460 --> 00:24:15,640 Depression, despair, defeat. 334 00:24:16,360 --> 00:24:17,820 Just so overwhelming. 335 00:24:18,420 --> 00:24:20,000 It was hard to function. 336 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,780 You feel horrible. All your tears are just crocodile tears. 337 00:24:23,980 --> 00:24:27,960 When you're convinced that everyone lives in satanic delusion, there's no 338 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:28,879 turn to for help. 339 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,140 You are a lame man. 340 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,780 You've got to see, man. You're as sick. 341 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,220 You're left with emptiness and loneliness and nothing. 342 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,140 You want to get what you deserve? 343 00:24:39,900 --> 00:24:43,620 The next thing I know, you deserve hell. 344 00:24:43,980 --> 00:24:45,600 I'm sitting there in a chair. 345 00:24:48,060 --> 00:24:49,060 You know, suicide, 346 00:24:49,930 --> 00:24:53,850 Is the ultimate self -obsession. With a loaded shotgun in my mouth. 347 00:24:55,130 --> 00:24:58,590 You're so grieved that you can't make yourself happy. 348 00:25:00,590 --> 00:25:03,610 And hey, I'm going to blow my brains out. 349 00:25:05,570 --> 00:25:06,970 Can't make myself happy. 350 00:25:08,950 --> 00:25:13,870 I have Mike mocking me, telling me that I'm worthless, that I'm nowhere, that 351 00:25:13,870 --> 00:25:15,510 I'm just projecting false humility. 352 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,760 Oh, I feel so sorry for you. I just can't follow what he said. It's Michael 353 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:21,760 Warnacki's fault. 354 00:25:22,300 --> 00:25:26,260 But I was young, so I could take the pain and battle it out. 355 00:25:32,100 --> 00:25:33,600 So I stopped myself. 356 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,940 If I was 50 years old and had clinical depression, it'd be really hard. 357 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,240 So maybe it was good that I met Mike when I was young. 358 00:25:43,970 --> 00:25:46,970 If I was older, I probably would have really killed myself and died. 359 00:25:47,530 --> 00:25:48,770 Well, I'm sorry, guys. 360 00:25:51,070 --> 00:25:52,070 That's not a warrior. 361 00:25:52,370 --> 00:25:54,730 That's not a person in God. That's a piece of lard. 362 00:25:54,990 --> 00:25:57,790 That's an unregenerate pagan who doesn't want God. 363 00:25:58,710 --> 00:26:01,570 So I don't know what a doctor would call that, the combination. 364 00:26:01,910 --> 00:26:05,630 Real connective depression and then spiritual depression. You got it 365 00:26:06,570 --> 00:26:08,410 So, yeah, it was pretty dark. 366 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,980 Oh, there was someone who had that. Her name was Andrea Yates. That's right. 367 00:26:19,500 --> 00:26:24,220 You must get right with God before it's too late. The window of opportunity is 368 00:26:24,220 --> 00:26:25,220 closing. 369 00:26:25,940 --> 00:26:29,940 After Andrea's symptoms started getting worse, I finally got a hold of a mental 370 00:26:29,940 --> 00:26:31,400 health hospital in the area. 371 00:26:31,780 --> 00:26:34,840 You only have a limited time to affect those little lives. 372 00:26:35,340 --> 00:26:38,680 Andrea's brother and I carried her to the car and took her to the hospital. 373 00:26:39,470 --> 00:26:41,090 Teach and discipline the boys. 374 00:26:41,890 --> 00:26:43,370 And she was readmitted. 375 00:26:44,410 --> 00:26:48,270 I called Noah to let her talk with Noah a little bit. 376 00:26:49,170 --> 00:26:53,390 Parents today do not know how to teach their children, and thus they raise 377 00:26:53,390 --> 00:26:54,570 rebels without discipline. 378 00:26:55,570 --> 00:26:59,530 The only thing Andrea said was, I'm sorry I've been such a bad mom. 379 00:27:00,910 --> 00:27:02,950 First, it's not true. She was an awesome mother. 380 00:27:03,390 --> 00:27:06,850 Second, it's very out of character for her to say anything like that. 381 00:27:15,630 --> 00:27:18,930 After my suicide attempt, I didn't break with Michael at all. 382 00:27:19,470 --> 00:27:24,090 I believe that I've been given a second chance to live and to find God. 383 00:27:26,230 --> 00:27:29,810 Then one day I received a package that contained a videotape. 384 00:27:31,070 --> 00:27:32,710 I was afraid to watch it. 385 00:27:33,550 --> 00:27:38,270 And it sat on my kitchen table for several days before I could even muster 386 00:27:38,270 --> 00:27:39,990 courage to put it into the VCR. 387 00:27:41,430 --> 00:27:43,650 My heart was just beating with anxiety. 388 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:45,860 When I finally hit play. 389 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:47,640 You're wrong. 390 00:27:47,940 --> 00:27:53,180 And you must stop and change what you're doing. No reason for you 391 00:27:53,180 --> 00:27:59,980 to have some awkward, uncomfortable feelings of 392 00:27:59,980 --> 00:28:00,980 change. 393 00:28:01,380 --> 00:28:02,820 No, no. 394 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:07,980 I hear Mike imitating Satan in that creepy voice and that grotesque mask. 395 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,200 I've already been eight years under his teaching. 396 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,500 I felt like I was in a psychological maze. 397 00:28:13,900 --> 00:28:19,380 That's all that matters is what you feel in your own heart about yourself and 398 00:28:19,380 --> 00:28:20,380 about God. 399 00:28:21,780 --> 00:28:26,020 After the viewing of the tape, I started imagining the devil speaking to me all 400 00:28:26,020 --> 00:28:27,020 the time. 401 00:28:30,260 --> 00:28:32,320 And then soon another package arrived. 402 00:28:36,020 --> 00:28:38,880 Mike sent a message saying that he could meet with me. 403 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:44,100 I thought because I wasn't progressing, he was coming to my aid, you know, much 404 00:28:44,100 --> 00:28:45,220 like a spiritual doctor. 405 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,720 And I envisioned spending hours with him in a park or someplace quiet. 406 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:55,740 But what I found peculiar was the place he chose to meet, a McDonald's 407 00:28:55,740 --> 00:28:58,500 restaurant. I didn't tell anyone except Richard. 408 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,460 Me and Richard were childhood friends. 409 00:29:01,940 --> 00:29:03,360 We were in the same fraternity. 410 00:29:03,860 --> 00:29:07,560 And so he got exposed to Mike about the same time that I did. 411 00:29:08,980 --> 00:29:13,740 So me and Richard meet with Michael, and it changed everything. 412 00:29:22,220 --> 00:29:25,460 This is the first time I'm meeting Michael in person since 1987. 413 00:29:26,660 --> 00:29:29,980 He appeared shifty -eyed, worried, even a little nervous. 414 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,580 And I experienced this immediate wave of conflicted emotion and just figured 415 00:29:34,580 --> 00:29:37,440 that the weight of the spirit must be heavy upon him. 416 00:29:38,380 --> 00:29:42,800 Then I remember Mike telling me, do you remember the opening scene in The Winds 417 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:43,800 of Revolve? 418 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,940 When the farmhouse gets lifted into the powerful winds of a growing tornado, 419 00:29:50,140 --> 00:29:52,700 spinning and spinning, winds of delusion. 420 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,620 That's you, David. You don't even realize you're caught up in those winds 421 00:29:58,620 --> 00:30:02,320 delusion. In fact, you're more deluded now than ever. 422 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,820 I mean, my lips started quivering and my spirit just shattered. 423 00:30:07,350 --> 00:30:09,030 Richard was even worse than him. 424 00:30:09,310 --> 00:30:11,250 He was told there's no hope for him at all. 425 00:30:11,930 --> 00:30:15,590 And then just like that, he walked away. 426 00:30:19,650 --> 00:30:21,450 Me and Richard were stunned. 427 00:30:26,930 --> 00:30:32,190 And then super late that night, I hear a rapid bang. 428 00:30:32,990 --> 00:30:34,730 So I rushed to open up the front door. 429 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:36,900 It was Richard. 430 00:30:38,180 --> 00:30:39,180 Terrified, shaking. 431 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,200 Just freaked out. David, I'm going to hell. You know, what's the point of 432 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,080 living? I might as well just end it now. 433 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:53,440 He was just convinced under Mike's teaching and Mike's words that he was 434 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,080 to hell. Let me just go. 435 00:30:55,300 --> 00:30:56,680 Let me get my punishment. 436 00:30:57,100 --> 00:30:59,780 He totally saw no reason to live anymore. 437 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,180 That's in a lot of scary horror movies. 438 00:31:02,460 --> 00:31:07,280 Nothing can compare to the look and fright I saw in Richard's face that 439 00:31:07,500 --> 00:31:10,720 It's the most scariest thing you will ever encounter. 440 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:16,080 No producer, no movie director can get that on film. You can't act that. It's a 441 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,100 real experience. 442 00:31:17,460 --> 00:31:21,680 It's a spiritual, frightening experience that comes from the very soul. 443 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,120 He scared me. 444 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:29,660 And I was emotionally exhausted because it took everything I had to convince him 445 00:31:29,660 --> 00:31:31,040 to not do it now. 446 00:31:32,420 --> 00:31:35,860 And he's my friend. I loved him. He was my childhood friend. 447 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,900 And I know he's going to do it because I know how he feels. 448 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,940 I know. I know what he's under. 449 00:31:44,820 --> 00:31:46,760 You know, don't do it. 450 00:31:47,540 --> 00:31:51,420 It drained me because I knew he was going to do it. 451 00:31:51,980 --> 00:31:53,300 Knew he was going to do it. 452 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,180 And he's my best friend. 453 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,080 That really, you know. 454 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:08,100 We talked for hours, and eventually Richard decided to not take his life. 455 00:32:12,420 --> 00:32:16,260 After my parents' divorce, my mom moved us away to California. 456 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,380 But my mom doesn't really want to reach out to Michael because she's pretty 457 00:32:20,380 --> 00:32:23,160 ashamed and has a lot of guilt for leaving my dad. 458 00:32:24,060 --> 00:32:28,440 About two years later, Michael comes back into our life, and God has told us 459 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:29,580 that you're just off track. 460 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,860 You're not spiritually in line with where you need to be. 461 00:32:33,060 --> 00:32:35,820 So you're going to come out with us, and you're going to answer his prayer. 462 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:37,520 Praise Jesus. 463 00:32:37,740 --> 00:32:38,699 Amen. 464 00:32:38,700 --> 00:32:41,220 Glory to the Lord. It's going to hell. 465 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,780 It's going to the lake of fire. 466 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:45,840 And unless you wake up. 467 00:32:47,730 --> 00:32:52,070 So we go out with Michael and all eight kids. 468 00:32:57,870 --> 00:32:59,150 They're headed for hell. 469 00:32:59,730 --> 00:33:02,370 God's going to burn this world. They're living in sin. 470 00:33:05,790 --> 00:33:09,370 I guess I was old enough to be embarrassed for the first time. 471 00:33:10,010 --> 00:33:11,990 I saw people's reaction to it. 472 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:26,520 And then Michael completely drafted my mom down in front of us. She's a wicked 473 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,020 woman. She's contentious. 474 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,560 She's living a life of sin. 475 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,980 You're so evil. You're sending your kids to hell. 476 00:33:37,540 --> 00:33:41,960 Michael had written my mom off because she left my dad. 477 00:33:42,500 --> 00:33:45,340 But my mom was... so we've got to get back into good graces. 478 00:33:45,580 --> 00:33:51,240 Her entire life was wrapped up in, does Michael love me? Does Michael think I'm 479 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:52,240 saved? 480 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,800 So we had to Michael's tapes that we hooked on the bus. 481 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,920 I noticed a frequency in Michael's tapes being played. 482 00:34:01,220 --> 00:34:04,640 The entire word of God speaks about the last days. 483 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:11,380 These words are so ingrained in my head. Not days of revival, but days of 484 00:34:11,380 --> 00:34:12,380 intense. 485 00:34:13,659 --> 00:34:15,840 powerful deception and delusion. 486 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:24,380 Overall, my mom's anxiety about going to hell and sending her kids to hell 487 00:34:24,380 --> 00:34:26,480 outweighed any sort of logic. 488 00:34:26,900 --> 00:34:31,360 That's the point with Michael's teachings. It's such an extreme dogmatic 489 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,980 stake. It's your soul for eternity. 490 00:34:34,340 --> 00:34:40,719 I think ultimately, and I think she regrets this now, that got in the way of 491 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:46,889 of the most The injury 492 00:34:46,889 --> 00:34:52,630 was the sickest patient in that building. 493 00:34:52,889 --> 00:34:57,350 I mean, you could just tell. She was like not hardly moving, not responsive, 494 00:34:57,350 --> 00:35:02,190 communicative. And then within a week or two, they said, oh, she might do better 495 00:35:02,190 --> 00:35:06,210 at home. Let's try that, which is kind of probably code for your insurance 496 00:35:06,210 --> 00:35:07,590 now. It's time to go home. 497 00:35:08,490 --> 00:35:10,970 When she came home, she was completely out of it. 498 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,520 I didn't know it at the time, but Andrea was having visual hallucinations, 499 00:35:17,540 --> 00:35:19,820 auditory hallucinations. 500 00:35:20,060 --> 00:35:23,100 You must stop and change what you're doing. 501 00:35:23,820 --> 00:35:27,800 And it led to the delusions she had of having the devil in her. 502 00:35:28,220 --> 00:35:29,940 Uncomfortable feelings of change. 503 00:35:30,420 --> 00:35:31,420 No. 504 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:32,840 No. 505 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,500 But at the time, Andrea didn't tell me what was going on in her head. 506 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:42,360 And none of us, nobody thought the kids were at any risk at all. 507 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:48,080 Nowhere on anyone's radar was any possibility of harm to our children. 508 00:35:51,460 --> 00:35:53,600 Andrea Yates called 911. 509 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:58,520 Once authorities arrived at her home, they found five young children dead. 510 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:04,500 Andrea Yates confessing to police she drowned her children one by one in the 511 00:36:04,500 --> 00:36:05,500 bathtub. 512 00:36:06,730 --> 00:36:08,910 You see a lot of homicides, but you don't see a scene like that. 513 00:36:09,130 --> 00:36:14,230 Sergeant Randall Beatty never cried in 16 years in the force until he saw the 514 00:36:14,230 --> 00:36:15,710 horrors inside the house. 515 00:36:18,150 --> 00:36:21,890 Tragedy is an understatement. I don't believe there are words in any language 516 00:36:21,890 --> 00:36:23,870 that can describe what has happened. 517 00:36:34,750 --> 00:36:38,820 After the tragedy, I had a very strange experience. 518 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:44,640 I had nightmares that some of my children had passed, 519 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:49,400 only to wake up and realize they all had passed. 520 00:36:50,260 --> 00:36:55,780 And I'm like, wow, how can reality be worse than your nightmare? 521 00:36:56,140 --> 00:36:57,420 But it was. 522 00:36:58,100 --> 00:37:03,620 I had that happen probably, I don't know, three or four times where I had a 523 00:37:03,620 --> 00:37:04,620 dream like that. 524 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,060 And that's tough. 525 00:37:27,140 --> 00:37:29,520 Today, the Yates children were laid to rest. 526 00:37:30,940 --> 00:37:33,360 The eulogy was delivered by Rusty Yates. 527 00:37:33,670 --> 00:37:38,790 who shared loving memories of each child, Noah, John, Paul, Luke, and Mary. 528 00:37:40,930 --> 00:37:45,130 Rusty Yates wanted everyone to know a treasured moment he shared with each of 529 00:37:45,130 --> 00:37:45,888 his angels. 530 00:37:45,890 --> 00:37:50,450 This photo with Noah, the oldest, holding a caterpillar, tells a story of 531 00:37:50,450 --> 00:37:55,070 family vacation to Florida. He said Noah squealed when his caterpillar turned 532 00:37:55,070 --> 00:37:56,070 into a butterfly. 533 00:37:56,210 --> 00:37:57,230 Here's our butterfly. 534 00:37:58,010 --> 00:37:59,010 Aww. 535 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,540 He wants to go. 536 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,220 The family pulled off the highway. 537 00:38:03,460 --> 00:38:04,460 He set it free. 538 00:38:08,020 --> 00:38:11,640 This is how I feel now. I'm setting each child free. 539 00:38:13,100 --> 00:38:17,140 That's the thing that was most shocking to me about it all was just the finality 540 00:38:17,140 --> 00:38:18,019 of it. 541 00:38:18,020 --> 00:38:22,980 You know, you do anything to fight for your children, for your family, but it's 542 00:38:22,980 --> 00:38:23,980 too late. 543 00:38:29,890 --> 00:38:36,010 What happened was just, you know, incomprehensible. I mean, I just 544 00:38:36,010 --> 00:38:39,310 know, looking back, you know, I struggled with it all last night. I 545 00:38:39,310 --> 00:38:42,890 sleep last night. I was like, you know, is there anything I could have done, you 546 00:38:42,890 --> 00:38:44,130 know? That was a lot at once. 547 00:38:44,490 --> 00:38:47,850 It's like being thrown into a game you've never played, you know, and 548 00:38:47,850 --> 00:38:52,110 like, you don't know what to do, you know, what do you do? So at the same 549 00:38:52,110 --> 00:38:56,650 I felt compelled that, okay, I need to do what I can to... 550 00:38:57,150 --> 00:39:02,450 you know defend andrea and my family i'm torn one one side of me you know blames 551 00:39:02,450 --> 00:39:06,550 her because she you know she did it you know but the other side of me says well 552 00:39:06,550 --> 00:39:10,330 she didn't because that wasn't her she she went through a postpartum depression 553 00:39:10,330 --> 00:39:15,590 with our fourth child and it was very serious uh then and she had attempted 554 00:39:15,590 --> 00:39:22,230 suicide then and um i'm supportive of her you know it's hard you know the the 555 00:39:22,230 --> 00:39:26,360 woman here is not the woman that killed my children so You know, if you see 556 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:27,360 this, I love you. 557 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,860 Right after I defended Andrew, a lot of people were just like, well, if it's not 558 00:39:31,860 --> 00:39:35,000 her because she's mentally ill, it must be that rotten husband of hers. 559 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:41,960 People can't understand how a man, how a father could support his wife after she 560 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,700 took the lives of their children. 561 00:39:50,180 --> 00:39:53,360 I took a lot of heat for Andrew, but people can think what they want. 562 00:39:53,980 --> 00:39:56,760 They didn't live our life. They didn't sit in the doctor's office. 563 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,860 Then a lot of people were saying, she's the devil. 564 00:40:00,140 --> 00:40:02,400 This is an absolutely evil woman. 565 00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:07,740 Miss Yates fully and intentionally drowned them one by one. This woman is a 566 00:40:07,740 --> 00:40:11,520 beast who committed one of the most horrible crimes I ever heard of. Hard to 567 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,280 believe that a mother could do something like that. 568 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,920 There's this tremendous outcry to give her the death penalty. 569 00:40:20,620 --> 00:40:24,500 The state are pursuing the death penalty in the Andrea Yates case. 570 00:40:24,820 --> 00:40:29,480 The county that sends more people to death row than any place in the U .S. 571 00:40:30,340 --> 00:40:36,580 The entire country, the entire world is like, this woman is evil, she's insane. 572 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,360 But when I first heard the news, I was jealous. 573 00:40:43,020 --> 00:40:46,100 Rather than horrified. 574 00:40:50,030 --> 00:40:51,330 I just need a police officer. 575 00:40:51,770 --> 00:40:52,790 Are you there alone? 576 00:40:54,910 --> 00:40:56,150 No, my kids are here. 577 00:40:58,310 --> 00:41:02,070 I got why she did it. I got why the kids obeyed. 578 00:41:02,950 --> 00:41:04,130 I would have gotten the tub. 579 00:41:06,890 --> 00:41:08,370 So I understood it all. 580 00:41:08,790 --> 00:41:09,870 How old are your children? 581 00:41:10,710 --> 00:41:16,790 They're seven, five, three, two, and six months. 582 00:41:17,410 --> 00:41:19,150 So you have five children? Yes. 583 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,000 She did what she was supposed to do. 584 00:41:26,720 --> 00:41:33,580 She made the greatest sacrifice. 585 00:41:36,020 --> 00:41:38,040 She was saving her kids. 49261

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