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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:36,427 --> 00:00:37,950 There were so many days that I wanted 2 00:00:38,125 --> 00:00:39,387 this to be taken away. 3 00:00:47,743 --> 00:00:50,398 There's this story of a man who was waiting 4 00:00:50,572 --> 00:00:52,095 at the Pool of Bethesda. 5 00:00:55,316 --> 00:00:56,578 He had something wrong with him. 6 00:01:03,628 --> 00:01:04,803 Many years earlier, 7 00:01:04,977 --> 00:01:06,849 an angel had disturbed the water, 8 00:01:08,155 --> 00:01:10,418 and whoever touched the moving water was healed. 9 00:01:16,119 --> 00:01:18,991 That man sat by the Pool for most of his life, 10 00:01:20,471 --> 00:01:22,430 waiting for the moving of the water. 11 00:01:27,087 --> 00:01:28,392 Waiting to be healed. 12 00:01:35,747 --> 00:01:37,532 I think about that story a lot. 13 00:01:39,969 --> 00:01:41,666 What if the water never moved? 14 00:01:51,894 --> 00:01:53,765 A local wrestler 15 00:01:53,939 --> 00:01:56,681 could have used his physical limitations to quit sports. 16 00:01:56,855 --> 00:01:58,640 Instead, he used it to his advantage. 17 00:02:01,947 --> 00:02:03,949 It's a remarkable story of his refusal 18 00:02:04,124 --> 00:02:07,127 to let a rare birth defect define him. 19 00:02:10,130 --> 00:02:12,088 A genetic mutation gave Ben Kjar 20 00:02:12,262 --> 00:02:14,046 a lifetime to make excuses. 21 00:02:17,398 --> 00:02:18,399 This guy has made it 22 00:02:18,573 --> 00:02:20,488 to the pinnacle of the sport. 23 00:02:20,662 --> 00:02:22,490 I think he came with that champion spirit. 24 00:02:22,664 --> 00:02:24,274 World champion. 25 00:02:24,448 --> 00:02:26,494 - A champion heart. - Mm-hmm. 26 00:02:26,755 --> 00:02:27,756 - That's what he has. - It's a winning attitude. 27 00:02:30,846 --> 00:02:32,456 - Stand out! - Stand out! 28 00:02:32,630 --> 00:02:34,154 - Stand out! - Stand out! 29 00:02:34,328 --> 00:02:36,243 - Stand out! - Stand out! 30 00:02:36,417 --> 00:02:38,332 - Stand out! - Stand out! 31 00:02:47,123 --> 00:02:48,646 My name is Ben Kjar. 32 00:02:49,995 --> 00:02:51,954 I didn't always tell my story. I was afraid 33 00:02:52,128 --> 00:02:53,956 to tell my story, frankly. 34 00:02:54,522 --> 00:02:56,567 Even to this day, I have friends... 35 00:02:57,351 --> 00:02:58,613 ...that see my story... 36 00:02:59,744 --> 00:03:01,703 ...they come back to me, and they're like, "Ben, 37 00:03:01,877 --> 00:03:03,270 I didn't even know about this. 38 00:03:05,054 --> 00:03:06,925 I didn't know you went through all this." 39 00:03:08,927 --> 00:03:10,712 And these are some of my best buddies. 40 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,285 But there were a couple people I couldn't hide it from. 41 00:03:24,769 --> 00:03:26,815 In the late '70s and early '80s, 42 00:03:26,989 --> 00:03:28,512 my parents, you know, 43 00:03:28,686 --> 00:03:30,427 tried to make their way through school, 44 00:03:32,168 --> 00:03:33,430 tried to start a family. 45 00:03:35,345 --> 00:03:36,825 We've known each other for a long time. 46 00:03:36,999 --> 00:03:38,392 We met in the first grade. 47 00:03:39,567 --> 00:03:41,003 Miracle is she still married me. 48 00:03:43,658 --> 00:03:46,791 The first three kids were born fully healthy. 49 00:03:47,052 --> 00:03:50,230 Amanda, Katie, and Luke. 50 00:03:51,448 --> 00:03:52,754 And then I came. 51 00:03:57,628 --> 00:03:58,803 When he was delivered, 52 00:03:58,977 --> 00:04:00,109 instead of being a pink little baby, 53 00:04:00,283 --> 00:04:01,980 he was gray. Gray/blue. 54 00:04:03,460 --> 00:04:05,245 He was almost lifeless. 55 00:04:06,681 --> 00:04:08,465 I will never forget that. 56 00:04:09,684 --> 00:04:12,556 He was struggling very hard for every breath. 57 00:04:13,644 --> 00:04:15,733 His eyes were bigger than the other kids'. 58 00:04:15,907 --> 00:04:17,779 He couldn't nurse and breathe at the same time. 59 00:04:17,953 --> 00:04:19,781 Stana had to feed him with an eyedropper. 60 00:04:20,782 --> 00:04:22,914 Then one day when we woke up, 61 00:04:23,088 --> 00:04:26,266 his soft spot, or his fontanel, was puffed. 62 00:04:28,093 --> 00:04:29,269 I was alarmed. 63 00:04:30,008 --> 00:04:32,010 We got in right away to see a doctor. 64 00:04:33,011 --> 00:04:34,317 Being a craniofacial surgeon, 65 00:04:34,491 --> 00:04:36,276 I get referred to those infants 66 00:04:36,450 --> 00:04:37,364 almost immediately, 67 00:04:37,538 --> 00:04:39,061 to ascertain whether there 68 00:04:39,235 --> 00:04:41,063 is some underlying problem. 69 00:04:41,455 --> 00:04:43,892 You could see, just based on his clinical appearance, 70 00:04:44,066 --> 00:04:47,896 that Ben does have a diagnosis of Crouzon's syndrome. 71 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,855 Crouzon's disease, a congenital deformity 72 00:04:51,029 --> 00:04:54,511 that causes the bones around the brain to grow incorrectly, 73 00:04:54,685 --> 00:04:58,167 which, in turn, stops the brain from growing properly. 74 00:04:59,951 --> 00:05:02,040 When we called my parents to tell them, 75 00:05:02,214 --> 00:05:03,564 "Surgery is set for this date, 76 00:05:03,738 --> 00:05:05,609 this is what's going to happen," 77 00:05:05,827 --> 00:05:08,133 I remember hearing this strange noise 78 00:05:08,308 --> 00:05:11,049 on the other end of the phone, and-- and I didn't understand 79 00:05:11,223 --> 00:05:12,660 what it was at first. 80 00:05:12,834 --> 00:05:15,967 And then I realized that it was my father, 81 00:05:17,186 --> 00:05:19,493 and I had never heard him cry like that. 82 00:05:23,497 --> 00:05:25,063 We got to the hospital. 83 00:05:25,237 --> 00:05:26,500 And this neurologist said, 84 00:05:26,674 --> 00:05:28,284 "This is a serious surgery. 85 00:05:28,458 --> 00:05:30,678 This will take ten to 12 hours. 86 00:05:31,896 --> 00:05:35,552 I need to cut open his skull, peel the skin back, 87 00:05:35,726 --> 00:05:39,469 cut the skull open, and move the skull forward an inch." 88 00:05:40,818 --> 00:05:42,690 The little boy is nine months old. 89 00:05:44,953 --> 00:05:47,869 We go into the recovery room, and he's crying. 90 00:05:48,260 --> 00:05:49,566 He had this big bandage all over his head. 91 00:05:49,740 --> 00:05:51,525 His eyes were swollen shut. 92 00:05:53,744 --> 00:05:56,443 I mean, [stutters] it was like his head was a balloon. 93 00:05:58,314 --> 00:06:01,622 He had a-- a inch gap all the way across the top of his head. 94 00:06:02,013 --> 00:06:04,929 He still has a scar, to this day, that goes from ear to ear. 95 00:06:07,062 --> 00:06:09,630 But what I thought would be a breakdown moment-- 96 00:06:10,108 --> 00:06:12,850 not knowing if you're capable of caring for a child 97 00:06:13,024 --> 00:06:14,286 after all that happens-- 98 00:06:14,504 --> 00:06:15,940 the opposite occurred. 99 00:06:17,855 --> 00:06:19,161 I would take the little soft tape 100 00:06:19,335 --> 00:06:21,206 and put it on his little swollen eyelid, 101 00:06:21,381 --> 00:06:24,558 and put it up to his forehead so that one eye was open, 102 00:06:24,732 --> 00:06:26,603 and he would start giggling and laughing 103 00:06:26,777 --> 00:06:28,300 because he could see us. 104 00:06:29,214 --> 00:06:33,610 I had just a blanket of warmth fall over me. 105 00:06:35,917 --> 00:06:38,876 Every day that he is with us, 106 00:06:39,050 --> 00:06:41,096 we'll do everything we can for him. 107 00:06:55,632 --> 00:06:58,418 For the next two or three years, we were okay. 108 00:06:59,027 --> 00:07:01,116 We had a family life. We're raising children. 109 00:07:01,290 --> 00:07:02,813 Christmas Day. 110 00:07:02,987 --> 00:07:04,162 We had three more. 111 00:07:04,902 --> 00:07:07,818 Adam, Sharla, and Danner. 112 00:07:07,992 --> 00:07:09,864 You gotta get that elbow thing right around by your-- oh. 113 00:07:11,779 --> 00:07:13,084 We moved back here to Centerville 114 00:07:13,258 --> 00:07:14,825 'cause we were close to our families. 115 00:07:15,826 --> 00:07:17,132 It was probably the perfect 116 00:07:17,306 --> 00:07:18,568 place for me to be raised. 117 00:07:19,395 --> 00:07:23,268 I had a lot of cousins, and the majority of my family 118 00:07:23,443 --> 00:07:24,879 lived here in Centerville. 119 00:07:25,053 --> 00:07:26,315 And all the cousins-- all the cousins 120 00:07:26,489 --> 00:07:27,708 turn around and wave to the camera. 121 00:07:28,099 --> 00:07:30,058 - Wave. - Hi! 122 00:07:30,232 --> 00:07:31,320 Hi, Daddy! 123 00:07:32,147 --> 00:07:35,019 All his cousins were an incredible support to him, 124 00:07:35,716 --> 00:07:37,718 and he just lived in that sphere. 125 00:07:41,722 --> 00:07:42,984 My name is Logan Essig. 126 00:07:43,158 --> 00:07:45,639 I am Ben's first cousin. 127 00:07:45,813 --> 00:07:48,206 He's been my best friend, I don't know, my whole life. 128 00:07:48,598 --> 00:07:51,949 It was like Logan was sent specifically for Ben. 129 00:07:52,123 --> 00:07:53,864 They were just kindred spirits. 130 00:07:54,909 --> 00:07:58,608 I mean, we had such a good time, and he loved me for who I was. 131 00:07:58,913 --> 00:08:00,610 We'd see each other, and it was just-- 132 00:08:00,784 --> 00:08:03,395 we'd be screaming like, "Yeah, we get to play." You know? 133 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,573 We'd go outside. We'd play basketball. 134 00:08:06,747 --> 00:08:08,183 Here's a good layup, look. 135 00:08:08,357 --> 00:08:09,401 Okay. 136 00:08:11,969 --> 00:08:14,450 Oh, that was a good layup. 137 00:08:14,885 --> 00:08:19,499 It didn't even occur to me that Ben was viewed as different. 138 00:08:19,673 --> 00:08:21,196 Nobody else in the family did. 139 00:08:21,370 --> 00:08:23,851 They did not recognize that he was different at all. 140 00:08:24,025 --> 00:08:26,418 In fact, some of my younger kids could not 141 00:08:26,593 --> 00:08:29,944 figure out why Ben was having these big surgeries. 142 00:08:30,118 --> 00:08:31,336 "What's the matter with Ben?" 143 00:08:33,687 --> 00:08:36,516 He was getting to the age where 144 00:08:36,690 --> 00:08:41,564 he realized people weren't just looking at his whole family. 145 00:08:41,912 --> 00:08:43,392 They were looking at him. 146 00:08:45,176 --> 00:08:48,179 If he was with family, he could be as comfortable 147 00:08:48,353 --> 00:08:50,965 as a child could be in his scenario. 148 00:08:51,835 --> 00:08:54,490 But when you're outside that environment, 149 00:08:54,664 --> 00:08:56,231 he could feel it happening. 150 00:08:56,405 --> 00:08:59,582 And so he would start drawing in and looking down. 151 00:09:00,452 --> 00:09:02,150 Ben? Come out of the shadows. 152 00:09:02,324 --> 00:09:03,368 Come over here. 153 00:09:03,847 --> 00:09:05,457 Let's see a big smile. 154 00:09:05,719 --> 00:09:07,416 Many times, Scott and I would lay awake. 155 00:09:07,764 --> 00:09:09,331 We often wondered, 156 00:09:09,505 --> 00:09:11,812 how do you teach self-confidence to someone 157 00:09:11,986 --> 00:09:13,117 that looks different? 158 00:09:16,381 --> 00:09:19,123 Just down the street, there was a family 159 00:09:19,297 --> 00:09:22,736 that moved in named the Clarks and the youngest was named Nate. 160 00:09:24,085 --> 00:09:26,174 Well, I grew up in a household with seven older brothers, 161 00:09:26,348 --> 00:09:29,786 these tough athletes and always fighting and boxing 162 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:31,658 and playing tackle football with each other. 163 00:09:31,832 --> 00:09:33,834 Ben and I-- we were kinda tied at the hip. 164 00:09:34,008 --> 00:09:35,400 We were just like, "We wanna play." 165 00:09:36,488 --> 00:09:38,621 All my buddies played these sports. 166 00:09:38,882 --> 00:09:41,711 I remember going up to my parents and saying, "Hey, Mom and Dad, 167 00:09:41,972 --> 00:09:44,758 I know we just spent a lot of money on a surgery. 168 00:09:45,106 --> 00:09:47,543 Can I go bang my head with other kids?" 169 00:09:49,806 --> 00:09:52,026 But the doctors would say, 170 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,029 "You know, you need to limit some of his activity." 171 00:09:56,291 --> 00:09:59,076 There was not a long history of, "How do we 172 00:09:59,250 --> 00:10:02,253 deal with children with craniofacial anomalies?" 173 00:10:02,471 --> 00:10:06,214 Logic would say, "Well, you treat them cautiously." 174 00:10:06,997 --> 00:10:08,216 I've had a lot of patients with 175 00:10:08,390 --> 00:10:10,044 similar conditions as Ben. 176 00:10:10,435 --> 00:10:13,569 Many of these kids wanted to play football, contact sports, 177 00:10:13,743 --> 00:10:15,136 even wrestling, 178 00:10:15,310 --> 00:10:17,007 and I would advise the parents against it, 179 00:10:17,181 --> 00:10:21,359 just because with head holds and being hit in the face, 180 00:10:21,533 --> 00:10:23,579 I was worried that he would re-injure 181 00:10:23,753 --> 00:10:25,102 his face after surgery. 182 00:10:27,061 --> 00:10:30,412 When I was told I couldn't play, it was hard. 183 00:10:30,978 --> 00:10:32,196 It was really hard. 184 00:10:33,676 --> 00:10:35,939 Even though they said, "No sports," 185 00:10:36,113 --> 00:10:37,985 they were bound and determined to help him 186 00:10:38,159 --> 00:10:40,770 live as normal a life as he possibly could. 187 00:10:41,292 --> 00:10:43,381 Yeah, well, it says "Record" on this. 188 00:10:43,730 --> 00:10:46,558 - Does it say record? - Yes, it does. REC. 189 00:10:47,342 --> 00:10:49,736 There is Danner, and there's Ben. 190 00:10:53,914 --> 00:10:56,699 And so we tried to get him involved in lots of things, 191 00:10:56,873 --> 00:10:58,440 along with all his other siblings. 192 00:10:58,614 --> 00:11:00,703 W-- We didn't say, "Oh, you sit over there in the corner 193 00:11:00,877 --> 00:11:03,488 and just be yourself, and, you know, you have problems." 194 00:11:03,663 --> 00:11:04,968 We didn't let him do that. 195 00:11:05,229 --> 00:11:07,057 - All right, Ben. - Go! 196 00:11:07,231 --> 00:11:08,798 It's scary. 197 00:11:08,972 --> 00:11:11,105 - Go, Ben. - After you go, I'll go. 198 00:11:11,366 --> 00:11:13,107 Ben, you're a wuss. 199 00:11:13,281 --> 00:11:17,111 My parents and my siblings-- they were incredible cuddlers, 200 00:11:17,285 --> 00:11:19,156 but they were not good coddlers. 201 00:11:19,330 --> 00:11:20,767 If you don't go then I'm gonna push you off. 202 00:11:20,941 --> 00:11:23,944 Ben, go! 203 00:11:24,118 --> 00:11:26,903 It was like, "We're not gonna protect you with bubble wrap." 204 00:11:27,077 --> 00:11:28,688 Instead, they put us in activities 205 00:11:28,862 --> 00:11:31,038 to find something I could find confidence in. 206 00:11:31,212 --> 00:11:32,648 So you'd come home from school. 207 00:11:32,822 --> 00:11:33,693 I remember I'd just go straight to his house 208 00:11:33,867 --> 00:11:34,781 and knock on his door and, 209 00:11:34,955 --> 00:11:35,912 "Hey, can Ben play today?" 210 00:11:36,086 --> 00:11:37,131 And it was always, "No, 211 00:11:37,305 --> 00:11:38,915 Ben has piano lessons." 212 00:11:39,263 --> 00:11:41,091 Like, it was just always something. 213 00:11:43,398 --> 00:11:44,399 Orchestra. 214 00:11:46,009 --> 00:11:47,358 Dance. 215 00:11:48,620 --> 00:11:50,100 Gingerbread Kids singing. 216 00:11:52,494 --> 00:11:54,496 I mean, how uncool is that, right? 217 00:11:54,670 --> 00:11:55,976 I mean, you name it. 218 00:11:56,150 --> 00:11:57,455 Even though I hated it. 219 00:11:58,543 --> 00:12:00,241 So finally, I was just, like, determined 220 00:12:00,458 --> 00:12:01,808 to hang out with my best friend. I was like, 221 00:12:01,982 --> 00:12:03,418 "Well, I'll go to Gingerbread Kids with him. 222 00:12:03,592 --> 00:12:04,898 Like, what is Gingerbread Kids?" And I got there... 223 00:12:07,639 --> 00:12:10,338 And I was like, "What on Earth is your mom having you guys do? 224 00:12:10,512 --> 00:12:13,210 This is crazy. Like, I just get to sign up for sports." 225 00:12:13,733 --> 00:12:15,473 Well, that wasn't an option. 226 00:12:15,647 --> 00:12:17,040 Okay, Ben. Come on. 227 00:12:17,214 --> 00:12:18,999 But they still wanted me to find courage. 228 00:12:19,173 --> 00:12:21,175 Something that I could fall in love with. 229 00:12:21,349 --> 00:12:22,350 Just jump! 230 00:12:24,439 --> 00:12:26,484 - Yeah! - Hey... 231 00:12:26,658 --> 00:12:29,444 My friends, my siblings were always strong. 232 00:12:33,187 --> 00:12:37,060 I knew that with them around me, it's gonna be okay. 233 00:12:42,413 --> 00:12:45,765 But one time, my parents let me go to the store by myself. 234 00:12:47,418 --> 00:12:49,507 I had picked out a candy bar, 235 00:12:50,117 --> 00:12:52,510 and I'd sat there just feeling like a king of the world. 236 00:12:54,208 --> 00:12:55,470 And the guy who was in front of me 237 00:12:55,644 --> 00:12:57,254 was this adult man 238 00:12:57,428 --> 00:12:59,822 with his kids who I'd never seen before. 239 00:13:00,910 --> 00:13:02,216 He would look at me. 240 00:13:07,612 --> 00:13:11,399 He grabbed his kids, pulled them close to him, and pointed at me. 241 00:13:12,356 --> 00:13:15,403 He said, "Hey, get behind me. Hurry. Get behind me, kids. 242 00:13:15,577 --> 00:13:18,710 Don't go near him, and don't touch him 'cause he's probably 243 00:13:18,885 --> 00:13:19,929 contagious." 244 00:13:24,107 --> 00:13:26,327 And he got out to his car like this, 245 00:13:26,501 --> 00:13:28,416 like he was getting away from a monster. 246 00:13:32,420 --> 00:13:34,857 A lot of times, I had been made fun of. 247 00:13:35,249 --> 00:13:38,121 But it was when the adults made fun of me, 248 00:13:38,469 --> 00:13:39,862 that's when I just broke. 249 00:13:46,303 --> 00:13:49,698 I would go home, and I'd run in the bathroom, 250 00:13:50,742 --> 00:13:53,920 and I'd slam the door and just collapse against the wall. 251 00:13:54,964 --> 00:13:56,923 I went up and tried to 252 00:13:57,097 --> 00:13:58,707 get in, and he wouldn't let me in. 253 00:14:01,014 --> 00:14:03,320 I couldn't imagine what had just occurred. 254 00:14:04,321 --> 00:14:06,323 I thought, "I've gotta figure out a way 255 00:14:06,497 --> 00:14:08,151 to physically take my face off. 256 00:14:09,109 --> 00:14:11,372 I gotta figure out a way... 257 00:14:12,373 --> 00:14:14,941 ...to physically remove the difference." 258 00:14:23,123 --> 00:14:28,084 Luckily, my mom came in before I made any... smart decisions. 259 00:14:29,825 --> 00:14:31,653 At first, he wouldn't say anything, 260 00:14:32,001 --> 00:14:35,135 and then he started saying what had just happened. 261 00:14:36,136 --> 00:14:38,878 Ben felt like he was just broken and diseased. 262 00:14:40,401 --> 00:14:42,272 And she just collapsed on me, 263 00:14:42,446 --> 00:14:44,013 and she just bawled with me, 264 00:14:45,101 --> 00:14:47,451 and I just told her everything I was feeling. 265 00:14:48,452 --> 00:14:53,283 It was the first time I had ever heard him say, "Why me?" 266 00:14:56,025 --> 00:14:59,115 Very quickly after that, my mom 267 00:14:59,420 --> 00:15:01,161 put me in front of the mirror, 268 00:15:01,335 --> 00:15:03,337 and she said something that would affect me 269 00:15:03,511 --> 00:15:04,816 for the rest of my life. 270 00:15:05,556 --> 00:15:08,168 "Do you think this challenge that is yours... 271 00:15:09,691 --> 00:15:12,650 ...came because God looked the other way for a minute? 272 00:15:13,564 --> 00:15:16,437 Do you think that it's going to go away?" 273 00:15:18,352 --> 00:15:19,962 "You're gonna attract attention just 274 00:15:20,136 --> 00:15:21,529 because you look different, Ben." 275 00:15:22,312 --> 00:15:25,054 "Other people do a lot for someone to notice them. 276 00:15:25,228 --> 00:15:27,404 You know, they act out just trying to get someone 277 00:15:27,578 --> 00:15:28,840 to pay attention to them. 278 00:15:29,189 --> 00:15:31,017 You know what? That's not your deal." 279 00:15:32,148 --> 00:15:33,628 "You were born different, 280 00:15:33,802 --> 00:15:35,978 so why don't you make a difference?" 281 00:15:36,239 --> 00:15:37,980 "You're gonna have to reach deep. 282 00:15:38,241 --> 00:15:41,636 But since you are standing out anyway... 283 00:15:42,550 --> 00:15:43,681 ...use it. 284 00:15:45,466 --> 00:15:48,295 Use what you've been made for, and stand out." 285 00:15:58,914 --> 00:16:01,569 At the time, the local high school 286 00:16:01,830 --> 00:16:05,747 had a youth program called Little Viking Wrestling. 287 00:16:06,139 --> 00:16:07,662 All the youth in the neighborhoods 288 00:16:07,836 --> 00:16:10,012 and in the surrounding area would come, 289 00:16:10,186 --> 00:16:11,666 and they would match kids up. 290 00:16:12,623 --> 00:16:14,234 And, like, once or twice a week, they'd have 291 00:16:14,408 --> 00:16:16,540 this practice that was basically, like, 292 00:16:16,845 --> 00:16:18,281 glorified babysitting. 293 00:16:18,499 --> 00:16:21,241 And Bart Thompson was the coach there. 294 00:16:22,546 --> 00:16:25,506 Viewmont High had had some real serious success, 295 00:16:26,202 --> 00:16:28,857 but... that had disappeared. 296 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,165 Not long before that, the-- the film Take Down had come out. 297 00:16:35,603 --> 00:16:38,127 It was about an English teacher who drew the short straw 298 00:16:38,301 --> 00:16:39,955 and was told he had to be the wrestling coach. 299 00:16:41,261 --> 00:16:42,784 He had this odd assortment of kids. 300 00:16:43,350 --> 00:16:45,134 Uh, winning is not the only thing. 301 00:16:45,569 --> 00:16:48,224 The main thing is, uh... to have fun. 302 00:16:50,487 --> 00:16:51,706 That was us. 303 00:16:52,359 --> 00:16:55,797 We did not have a single set of uniforms for everybody... 304 00:16:58,104 --> 00:16:59,583 ...and we struggled. 305 00:17:03,544 --> 00:17:06,199 I knew that you've got to have a program 306 00:17:06,373 --> 00:17:07,809 before the high school 307 00:17:08,592 --> 00:17:09,593 to have a shot. 308 00:17:13,641 --> 00:17:15,773 My older brother Luke would go and wrestle 309 00:17:15,947 --> 00:17:17,688 and compete in this little league. 310 00:17:19,168 --> 00:17:21,388 And I would feel the passion cheering my brother on. 311 00:17:21,562 --> 00:17:23,042 "Go, Luke! Go, Luke!" 312 00:17:23,999 --> 00:17:25,131 Get in there, Luke. 313 00:17:25,740 --> 00:17:28,351 Ben wasn't allowed to be in the program yet. 314 00:17:29,004 --> 00:17:32,529 But he was walking around while the tournament's going on... 315 00:17:33,487 --> 00:17:35,576 ...and anybody he could go over to the bleachers 316 00:17:35,750 --> 00:17:37,534 and grab by the hand, he would pull them out 317 00:17:37,708 --> 00:17:40,059 onto the edge of the mats and wrestle with them. 318 00:17:43,149 --> 00:17:44,759 He did that through the whole tournament. 319 00:17:44,933 --> 00:17:47,109 I-- I'll bet he wrestled eight, ten different kids... 320 00:17:48,415 --> 00:17:49,894 ...all of whom were bigger than him. 321 00:17:56,553 --> 00:17:58,207 And at the end of the tournament, 322 00:17:58,381 --> 00:18:01,558 Luke got a medal that was about, like, the size of a penny. 323 00:18:01,732 --> 00:18:02,690 Right? 324 00:18:02,864 --> 00:18:05,475 And as he got this medal, 325 00:18:05,780 --> 00:18:07,956 I was so mad 326 00:18:08,304 --> 00:18:09,871 that I didn't get a medal. 327 00:18:10,698 --> 00:18:12,352 I wanted a medal. 328 00:18:14,093 --> 00:18:16,269 And I informed him they have to be earned. 329 00:18:16,486 --> 00:18:19,489 "You have to earn a medal, and you weren't in the tournament." 330 00:18:19,707 --> 00:18:21,230 But that was not... 331 00:18:21,839 --> 00:18:24,059 ...a satisfactory answer for me. 332 00:18:25,582 --> 00:18:27,541 I made such a scene. 333 00:18:28,107 --> 00:18:31,197 Finally, my mom went up to Bart Thompson 334 00:18:31,371 --> 00:18:35,940 and said, "How much do I have to pay you for an extra medal?" 335 00:18:36,463 --> 00:18:37,899 I said, "I got him taken care of." 336 00:18:38,247 --> 00:18:40,902 Picked him up, set him on top of our award stand, 337 00:18:41,076 --> 00:18:43,078 and awarded him a special award for 338 00:18:43,252 --> 00:18:44,906 wrestling the most people that night. 339 00:18:45,994 --> 00:18:48,083 And he said, "Congratulations, champ." 340 00:18:49,389 --> 00:18:54,002 And that, like, gave me a sample of what it was like 341 00:18:54,263 --> 00:18:56,657 to feel... just, like, noticed. 342 00:18:57,788 --> 00:19:01,662 That's when we started to see Ben just get a... 343 00:19:01,879 --> 00:19:03,794 ...fire in the gut that takes him somewhere. 344 00:19:05,753 --> 00:19:07,058 There was no doubt. 345 00:19:07,494 --> 00:19:09,887 We knew right there we couldn't limit him anymore. 346 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,633 Doctors hesitated, but we weren't 347 00:19:16,807 --> 00:19:19,158 going to live in fear of what might happen 348 00:19:19,332 --> 00:19:20,594 or what might not happen. 349 00:19:21,856 --> 00:19:25,686 After that, my parents put me in everything. 350 00:19:25,860 --> 00:19:28,950 I mean, you name it, from indoor soccer... 351 00:19:29,124 --> 00:19:30,691 All right. Get up, Ben. Hustle. 352 00:19:30,865 --> 00:19:33,520 ...to basketball, baseball. 353 00:19:34,651 --> 00:19:36,218 He loved every sport he played. 354 00:19:37,698 --> 00:19:40,483 We were just so happy to see Ben smiling, you know? 355 00:19:40,657 --> 00:19:42,224 Although I want you to know that 356 00:19:42,398 --> 00:19:44,966 sometimes it was hard to watch him do it. 357 00:19:47,011 --> 00:19:50,537 It was hard because if Crouzon syndrome wasn't enough 358 00:19:50,885 --> 00:19:53,888 to go bang heads with other kids, it was my size. 359 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,156 I was the smallest dude on the field by far. 360 00:20:04,203 --> 00:20:07,902 I looked like Spaceballs in the movie, with the huge helmets. 361 00:20:09,643 --> 00:20:11,340 I remember seeing it on the field one day. 362 00:20:11,732 --> 00:20:15,344 I saw the biggest on the opposite team just hit him... 363 00:20:15,518 --> 00:20:16,998 Yeah! Keep going! 364 00:20:17,172 --> 00:20:19,043 ...and I remember him just laying on the field 365 00:20:19,435 --> 00:20:20,480 like-- you know? 366 00:20:20,741 --> 00:20:23,091 And-- and I just thought, "Wow... 367 00:20:23,265 --> 00:20:24,919 ...how many of those are we gonna take?" 368 00:20:27,748 --> 00:20:30,838 But I also had a-- a big heart. 369 00:20:31,273 --> 00:20:33,406 Go, go, go. 370 00:20:35,103 --> 00:20:36,626 And so I would work hard. 371 00:20:40,064 --> 00:20:44,373 I started gaining confidence through sports. 372 00:20:44,852 --> 00:20:46,114 Ben Kjar. 373 00:20:50,553 --> 00:20:52,251 Are you gonna do this again next year? 374 00:20:52,642 --> 00:20:53,904 - Yeah. - Yes, ma'am. 375 00:20:59,214 --> 00:21:00,694 I started to think in that realm 376 00:21:00,868 --> 00:21:02,609 when kids would bully me. 377 00:21:05,699 --> 00:21:08,267 Like, for an example, in elementary-- 378 00:21:08,876 --> 00:21:10,747 this had happened numerous times. 379 00:21:12,314 --> 00:21:15,230 There was a kid a couple ages older than me, 380 00:21:16,100 --> 00:21:20,453 and he would look at me and literally, like, call me names. 381 00:21:20,801 --> 00:21:23,107 And so he would just look at me and be like, "Flat face. 382 00:21:23,282 --> 00:21:24,239 Hey, flat face. 383 00:21:24,413 --> 00:21:26,415 Everybody look at flat face." 384 00:21:27,590 --> 00:21:30,898 I would think, late at night in my bed, you know, cuddled up, 385 00:21:31,159 --> 00:21:32,552 "Why would he do that?" 386 00:21:34,293 --> 00:21:36,207 The kid was bigger than me, and I didn't feel like I could, 387 00:21:36,382 --> 00:21:38,645 like, box him or beat him up. 388 00:21:39,298 --> 00:21:43,563 But eventually I started to think of ways to defend myself. 389 00:21:47,044 --> 00:21:50,004 And then the next morning when he said, "Hey, flat face. 390 00:21:50,178 --> 00:21:51,222 Look at flat face!" 391 00:21:52,485 --> 00:21:55,488 I remember thinking, "I'm gonna do it this time. 392 00:21:55,662 --> 00:21:57,316 I'm gonna do it this time." 393 00:21:58,491 --> 00:22:00,014 And I pointed at him. I was like, 394 00:22:00,710 --> 00:22:03,234 "Hey, round face. Look at you, round face!" 395 00:22:06,281 --> 00:22:08,022 Ben's not very good at being mean. 396 00:22:10,285 --> 00:22:11,591 Was that the best thing to do? 397 00:22:11,765 --> 00:22:13,288 A-- Absolutely, probably not, 398 00:22:13,462 --> 00:22:15,725 but he kinda shut his mouth after that. 399 00:22:19,207 --> 00:22:22,297 Ben's confidence grew in every sport that he touched, 400 00:22:23,124 --> 00:22:26,388 but he truly got the most out of wrestling. 401 00:22:26,562 --> 00:22:29,260 And I think a lot of the reasons for that came from Shandell. 402 00:22:30,871 --> 00:22:33,743 In high school, Bart Thompson was my coach. 403 00:22:33,917 --> 00:22:35,571 I won two state titles. 404 00:22:35,789 --> 00:22:38,226 Then I won a Junior College National title. 405 00:22:39,401 --> 00:22:41,403 At that time, Centerville Junior High School 406 00:22:41,577 --> 00:22:44,232 was the worst in the district, the worst. 407 00:22:44,406 --> 00:22:46,060 And all of a sudden, my uncle walks out 408 00:22:46,234 --> 00:22:47,409 of the principal's office. 409 00:22:47,583 --> 00:22:48,889 I'm like, "What are you doing here?" 410 00:22:49,063 --> 00:22:50,456 'Cause he was just barely out of college. 411 00:22:51,805 --> 00:22:55,722 He says, "I'm your new wrestling coach," and it just lit me up. 412 00:22:57,376 --> 00:22:59,290 I was the head coach here at the junior high, 413 00:22:59,595 --> 00:23:01,336 and I was the assistant at the high school. 414 00:23:02,337 --> 00:23:06,036 People think that all we had to do was build the fundamentals 415 00:23:06,210 --> 00:23:08,256 and build the excitement for our sport. 416 00:23:08,430 --> 00:23:09,866 But a lot of the coaches are going 417 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,652 to be teaching the same techniques. 418 00:23:13,261 --> 00:23:14,697 There's all sorts of foundational 419 00:23:14,871 --> 00:23:16,960 or fundamental techniques that you teach. 420 00:23:17,134 --> 00:23:19,659 There are a variety of ways to score in wrestling. 421 00:23:20,007 --> 00:23:23,053 Every move a wrestler makes contributes to scoring points 422 00:23:23,227 --> 00:23:25,447 or preventing their opponent from doing so. 423 00:23:35,370 --> 00:23:38,982 Where the secret is, is we teach the young men to, 424 00:23:39,156 --> 00:23:41,289 ultimately, stay away from the things 425 00:23:41,463 --> 00:23:43,596 off the mat that will make them weak. 426 00:23:43,770 --> 00:23:46,120 You've got to stay away from the bad pictures. 427 00:23:46,294 --> 00:23:48,078 You got to stay away from the bad movies. 428 00:23:48,339 --> 00:23:50,298 You got to stay away from drugs, alcohol. 429 00:23:50,733 --> 00:23:52,082 This is your recipe for success. 430 00:23:59,742 --> 00:24:04,530 He was teaching boys to be men, and not just good men, 431 00:24:04,704 --> 00:24:05,879 but great men. 432 00:24:06,662 --> 00:24:10,927 I realized early on that Ben's opportunities may be limited, 433 00:24:11,841 --> 00:24:15,715 and so we spent maybe a little extra time 434 00:24:16,455 --> 00:24:20,328 as he started wrestling because early on, there was no success. 435 00:24:23,636 --> 00:24:26,682 They had the state freestyle tournament. 436 00:24:26,856 --> 00:24:30,207 Ben, who was in elementary school, said, "What the heck? 437 00:24:30,381 --> 00:24:32,035 I-- I wanna go up and wrestle, too." 438 00:24:33,950 --> 00:24:36,213 He came away with the third place medal, 439 00:24:36,387 --> 00:24:39,260 and he was just beaming from ear to ear. 440 00:24:40,435 --> 00:24:43,177 He didn't know that there was only three guys in his weight. 441 00:24:44,178 --> 00:24:45,875 I don't think he won a match. 442 00:24:47,573 --> 00:24:50,184 The challenges that he was faced with... 443 00:24:51,054 --> 00:24:53,970 ...would have... caused anybody, I think, 444 00:24:54,144 --> 00:24:57,539 to just absolutely... you know, fold up shop. 445 00:24:59,498 --> 00:25:03,371 He was at a fundamental disadvantage in many ways. 446 00:25:04,111 --> 00:25:06,722 Shorter than almost every opponent. 447 00:25:06,983 --> 00:25:09,290 Small hands, short limbs. 448 00:25:10,030 --> 00:25:12,336 It was painful because his teeth were 449 00:25:12,511 --> 00:25:15,209 so packed in, and the braces and everything that he had. 450 00:25:15,470 --> 00:25:19,735 His mouth was largely bleeding in almost every single match. 451 00:25:20,910 --> 00:25:23,086 Maybe the best way to say it is, 452 00:25:23,347 --> 00:25:25,959 "You've probably got more athletic ability 453 00:25:26,307 --> 00:25:28,091 in that much of your little finger 454 00:25:28,265 --> 00:25:29,658 than Ben had in his whole body." 455 00:25:31,181 --> 00:25:33,967 Kids would go out and just push him around and thump him. 456 00:25:34,315 --> 00:25:37,623 There were many times where he would come off the mat... 457 00:25:41,235 --> 00:25:42,715 ...fall at my feet... 458 00:25:48,634 --> 00:25:49,765 ...and just cry. 459 00:25:57,904 --> 00:26:01,342 And my sister, she'd let me have it. 460 00:26:02,169 --> 00:26:03,953 "I can't believe you're doing this to my kid. 461 00:26:04,737 --> 00:26:06,260 Is this good? Is this bad? 462 00:26:06,434 --> 00:26:07,609 Is this--" Whatever. 463 00:26:08,784 --> 00:26:09,742 Shoulders up! 464 00:26:09,916 --> 00:26:11,787 In my heart, I knew 465 00:26:12,135 --> 00:26:14,007 there are hard things that happen 466 00:26:14,398 --> 00:26:16,270 that you really learn from. 467 00:26:18,446 --> 00:26:21,405 So we just prayed often as a family. 468 00:26:24,844 --> 00:26:26,193 We hoped that that helped him. 469 00:26:28,978 --> 00:26:31,067 I was talking to him, and he said, "Do you know what? 470 00:26:31,241 --> 00:26:33,026 I could never lay on my back." 471 00:26:33,809 --> 00:26:36,116 I said, "What are you talking about?" He said, 472 00:26:36,725 --> 00:26:41,208 "I have had every sport outgrow me except for wrestling. 473 00:26:41,861 --> 00:26:44,211 So I have to do well. 474 00:26:44,559 --> 00:26:48,171 The thought of my shoulders touching a mattress or a mat 475 00:26:48,345 --> 00:26:50,173 is something that I don't wanna feel." 476 00:26:51,871 --> 00:26:54,700 For him to want something so bad... 477 00:26:56,136 --> 00:26:57,572 ...that's building character. 478 00:26:57,877 --> 00:26:59,618 That's what's gonna make him great. 479 00:27:04,057 --> 00:27:08,017 In junior high I was the lightest weight, 78 pounds, in seventh grade. 480 00:27:08,322 --> 00:27:12,456 Ben, soaking wet, was not close to 78. 481 00:27:12,848 --> 00:27:14,502 And wrestling is a true sport. 482 00:27:14,676 --> 00:27:17,244 It's not the coach saying, "You're varsity, you're JV." 483 00:27:17,418 --> 00:27:18,637 We have wrestle-offs. 484 00:27:18,811 --> 00:27:19,812 You compete against the guys that 485 00:27:19,986 --> 00:27:21,640 are your size, your weight, 486 00:27:21,814 --> 00:27:24,425 and the winner gets varsity, and then the next gets JV. 487 00:27:25,426 --> 00:27:29,256 But he had not been able to beat Zac Morby, his teammate, 488 00:27:29,430 --> 00:27:30,736 his drilling partner. 489 00:27:30,910 --> 00:27:32,738 In fourth place, Zac Morby 490 00:27:32,912 --> 00:27:33,956 of Northside. 491 00:27:34,478 --> 00:27:35,958 I was quicker than Ben. 492 00:27:36,132 --> 00:27:37,917 I felt like I was a better technician than Ben. 493 00:27:38,091 --> 00:27:42,095 And so we wrestled off every week for that entire year 494 00:27:42,269 --> 00:27:44,880 for the varsity spot, and I won all the time. 495 00:27:46,839 --> 00:27:48,362 The varsity guys had, like, the cooler warm-ups 496 00:27:48,536 --> 00:27:50,277 and all that stuff. 497 00:27:51,974 --> 00:27:53,584 And that meant that I had to wear 498 00:27:53,759 --> 00:27:56,065 the old, worn-out singlets 499 00:27:56,239 --> 00:27:58,589 that were way too baggy for me, right? 500 00:27:58,764 --> 00:28:00,504 Looked like I was wearing a parachute. 501 00:28:02,506 --> 00:28:05,422 But there was something else way worse than baggy singlets. 502 00:28:08,469 --> 00:28:11,559 As we would go to roll out the mats and get ready to warm up, 503 00:28:11,733 --> 00:28:14,083 we would always pass by the cheerleaders. 504 00:28:16,782 --> 00:28:20,699 And numerous times them seeing me, these girls, 505 00:28:21,134 --> 00:28:23,876 and them laughing, snickering in groups of three or four 506 00:28:24,050 --> 00:28:25,051 and pointing at me and being like, 507 00:28:25,225 --> 00:28:26,574 "Ah-ha, that's your boyfriend. 508 00:28:26,748 --> 00:28:28,054 That's your boyfriend." 509 00:28:28,402 --> 00:28:30,970 Like, I would be the last thing that they would ever 510 00:28:31,144 --> 00:28:32,406 want in their life. 511 00:28:36,627 --> 00:28:40,066 And then going out and performing on the same mat 512 00:28:40,327 --> 00:28:41,676 as them cheering. 513 00:28:43,765 --> 00:28:46,594 And every single time before a big performance, 514 00:28:47,073 --> 00:28:48,596 something like that would happen. 515 00:28:50,380 --> 00:28:53,688 My biggest fear was, "Could I be loved?" 516 00:28:54,950 --> 00:28:56,430 People would say, "Hey, is that kid that kind of 517 00:28:56,604 --> 00:28:57,561 looks like Quasimodo, 518 00:28:57,736 --> 00:28:58,780 is he on your team?" 519 00:28:59,607 --> 00:29:03,089 Every away match, so many people thought... 520 00:29:04,264 --> 00:29:06,614 ...that he was mentally handicapped, too. 521 00:29:07,180 --> 00:29:09,660 It was... crushing. 522 00:29:11,184 --> 00:29:12,838 You know, in football, I could hide behind a mask, 523 00:29:13,664 --> 00:29:14,927 but not in wrestling. 524 00:29:15,754 --> 00:29:17,103 Everyone saw who you were. 525 00:29:18,539 --> 00:29:20,715 I said, "Hey, pal, use it as venom." 526 00:29:24,153 --> 00:29:26,373 "Let it be the venom that drives you." 527 00:29:29,942 --> 00:29:32,596 Ben and Zac and I were weightlifting partners. 528 00:29:32,771 --> 00:29:34,555 You know, we went to the gym on our own. 529 00:29:34,773 --> 00:29:37,210 But Ben always took that to a higher level. 530 00:29:37,384 --> 00:29:38,864 It was, "How much more weight can I push? 531 00:29:39,038 --> 00:29:40,300 How much faster can I run? 532 00:29:40,474 --> 00:29:42,171 I mean, there was never a let-up. 533 00:29:42,824 --> 00:29:46,132 If Ben was ever losing a match, I would go like this. 534 00:29:46,306 --> 00:29:48,961 And it meant, "wipe off the crybaby face, 535 00:29:49,265 --> 00:29:50,614 and get back to work." 536 00:29:52,312 --> 00:29:54,140 I saw his faith, his confidence, 537 00:29:54,314 --> 00:29:56,142 his conditioning grow. 538 00:29:57,143 --> 00:30:00,276 I loved it... because it was just me. 539 00:30:00,711 --> 00:30:03,366 I can control how many repetitions I did. 540 00:30:03,540 --> 00:30:06,717 I can control if I show up early or leave late. 541 00:30:07,457 --> 00:30:09,720 I can control my attitude. 542 00:30:11,287 --> 00:30:14,334 I had waited my entire life 543 00:30:14,508 --> 00:30:16,336 to have control over something, 544 00:30:16,510 --> 00:30:19,643 and I finally felt like I had that in a sport like wrestling. 545 00:30:22,255 --> 00:30:24,823 At the end of the season, we have a qualifying tournament, 546 00:30:24,997 --> 00:30:26,825 the South End Wrestling Tournament, 547 00:30:26,999 --> 00:30:29,523 where each school gets to bring two wrestlers. 548 00:30:29,697 --> 00:30:31,786 So I got to bring both Zac and Ben 549 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,353 and enter them in the same weight class. 550 00:30:33,527 --> 00:30:35,268 They were on the opposite sides of the bracket. 551 00:30:35,442 --> 00:30:37,183 They ended up meeting in the finals. 552 00:30:37,357 --> 00:30:39,446 At 78 pounds, 553 00:30:39,707 --> 00:30:42,405 from Centerville Junior High, we have Zac Morby, 554 00:30:42,579 --> 00:30:45,017 and also from Centerville, we have Ben Kjar. 555 00:30:45,191 --> 00:30:46,714 It seemed like even though I felt 556 00:30:46,888 --> 00:30:48,803 like I was faster, you know, probably more technical, 557 00:30:49,151 --> 00:30:51,066 I felt like I was just wrestling to hang on. 558 00:30:51,632 --> 00:30:53,721 He was just so mean. 559 00:30:58,073 --> 00:30:59,945 It was a different feel, for sure. 560 00:31:03,774 --> 00:31:06,038 And it was not a close match. 561 00:31:08,954 --> 00:31:11,130 Ben ended up, like, pinning me in the second round. 562 00:31:13,436 --> 00:31:15,264 At that time, I was like, "I don't wanna be JV. 563 00:31:15,438 --> 00:31:16,439 That's not good." 564 00:31:17,136 --> 00:31:19,399 I was worried about losing the cooler warm-ups, 565 00:31:20,052 --> 00:31:22,445 and Ben was just like-- he didn't care about that. 566 00:31:22,619 --> 00:31:24,360 He was like, "Whatever. I got the varsity spot, 567 00:31:24,534 --> 00:31:26,362 Zac, keep the warm-ups. I don't even want 'em." 568 00:31:29,583 --> 00:31:30,540 Then they were able to go to the 569 00:31:30,714 --> 00:31:31,802 district championship. 570 00:31:35,110 --> 00:31:37,591 During that tournament, little tiny Ben, 571 00:31:37,765 --> 00:31:40,289 still probably eight pounds under the lowest weight, 572 00:31:40,463 --> 00:31:44,119 got to the district championship, the finals 573 00:31:44,293 --> 00:31:47,906 of all of Davis County, and wrestled this big ninth grader 574 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,646 that also weighed 78 pounds. 575 00:31:50,996 --> 00:31:52,693 His name was Blake Isom. 576 00:31:52,867 --> 00:31:55,522 He won the district tournament the year before. 577 00:31:58,264 --> 00:32:00,135 This big ninth grader probably cut weight 578 00:32:00,309 --> 00:32:03,008 down from 88 pounds down to 78. 579 00:32:03,399 --> 00:32:04,923 Given the history, we didn't expect 580 00:32:05,097 --> 00:32:06,881 to even be close in that match. 581 00:32:07,534 --> 00:32:09,449 I just didn't think I could handle it. 582 00:32:09,928 --> 00:32:11,277 In my opinion, 583 00:32:11,451 --> 00:32:12,887 I thought it was gonna be no competition. 584 00:32:19,111 --> 00:32:20,808 But then he gets an escape. 585 00:32:23,593 --> 00:32:25,769 And then all of a sudden, it was like, "Holy cow, 586 00:32:26,031 --> 00:32:27,162 he could actually stay in the match 587 00:32:27,336 --> 00:32:28,947 and have an opportunity to win." 588 00:32:30,687 --> 00:32:33,603 I remember sitting with Stana on the bench, 589 00:32:33,908 --> 00:32:36,998 and it was to the point where if... 590 00:32:37,477 --> 00:32:39,131 ...the ninth grader escaped, 591 00:32:39,305 --> 00:32:41,133 then Ben would lose. 592 00:32:45,789 --> 00:32:50,185 And Stana just calling out, "Reach deep, Ben. 593 00:32:50,359 --> 00:32:51,578 Reach deep." 594 00:32:52,144 --> 00:32:53,667 Reach deep, Ben. That's it. 595 00:32:54,973 --> 00:32:56,757 Reach deep, Ben. That's good. 596 00:32:57,366 --> 00:32:59,064 Come on, Ben! Come on! 597 00:32:59,499 --> 00:33:02,328 Yes. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. 598 00:33:02,502 --> 00:33:04,721 And that is exactly what he did. 599 00:33:04,895 --> 00:33:06,071 Way to go, Kjar! 600 00:33:07,681 --> 00:33:08,856 Come on, hold on. 601 00:33:15,776 --> 00:33:17,256 That was one of his most 602 00:33:17,430 --> 00:33:19,519 gritty turning points in his life. 603 00:33:26,874 --> 00:33:30,225 Nobody in the grocery store, no mean kid 604 00:33:30,617 --> 00:33:32,358 can ever take that away from you. 605 00:33:36,101 --> 00:33:39,147 And you look back and say, "Okay, th-- that was worth it." 606 00:33:41,193 --> 00:33:44,674 After that... he was a confident boy. 607 00:33:46,676 --> 00:33:49,418 That gave me such... swagger. 608 00:33:50,028 --> 00:33:51,507 ♪ I'm ready to go get it Like a Labrador ♪ 609 00:33:51,942 --> 00:33:53,509 ♪ Dog day's done and I'm Tired of the tug of war ♪ 610 00:33:53,683 --> 00:33:55,729 When you think of the glory sports, 611 00:33:55,903 --> 00:33:58,471 wrestling does not normally come to the top of mind. 612 00:33:59,298 --> 00:34:00,603 You're stripping off your clothes 613 00:34:00,777 --> 00:34:02,083 and getting down into your singlet. 614 00:34:02,257 --> 00:34:03,693 You're wrestling around with another man. 615 00:34:03,867 --> 00:34:05,086 That's not something most people are like, "Dude, 616 00:34:05,260 --> 00:34:07,001 this is the most glorious sport ever." 617 00:34:08,611 --> 00:34:11,788 Ben somehow turns it into the coolest thing ever. 618 00:34:13,138 --> 00:34:14,704 I started to make friends. 619 00:34:15,270 --> 00:34:16,402 I can do this. 620 00:34:17,925 --> 00:34:20,710 I remember my first day at Centerville Junior High. 621 00:34:20,884 --> 00:34:22,060 I was brand new. 622 00:34:22,234 --> 00:34:23,887 It was scary going to a new school. 623 00:34:24,062 --> 00:34:28,283 And I saw this little short boy 624 00:34:28,457 --> 00:34:30,546 with a little strut walking down the hall. 625 00:34:32,983 --> 00:34:35,377 And he had this entourage of people behind him. 626 00:34:36,944 --> 00:34:39,381 He just had this confidence that was insane. 627 00:34:40,991 --> 00:34:43,777 As I looked at him, he goes, "Hey, what's up?" 628 00:34:45,170 --> 00:34:48,216 And the first thought that came to my mind was, 629 00:34:48,390 --> 00:34:50,523 "Wow, he's a cool kid." 630 00:34:53,003 --> 00:34:54,396 At that point, 631 00:34:54,570 --> 00:34:57,704 when people said something mean about his face, 632 00:34:57,878 --> 00:35:02,230 I also saw the metamorphosis for Ben to know how to react. 633 00:35:03,231 --> 00:35:07,627 Rather than just retaliate with another negative comment, 634 00:35:07,844 --> 00:35:09,846 he went to humor, often. 635 00:35:11,979 --> 00:35:14,895 One day, some neighbor girls were in the park. 636 00:35:15,852 --> 00:35:17,767 We were out jumping on our trampoline. 637 00:35:18,072 --> 00:35:21,031 And he was singing, "The sun will come out tomorrow. 638 00:35:21,206 --> 00:35:23,382 I love you. I love you." 639 00:35:25,210 --> 00:35:28,126 And Nate said, "Hey... 640 00:35:28,778 --> 00:35:30,693 ...Ben wants you to be his girlfriend." 641 00:35:32,304 --> 00:35:33,914 They just started laughing and saying 642 00:35:34,088 --> 00:35:35,524 that he had a weird face and he was ugly and there was 643 00:35:35,698 --> 00:35:36,699 no chance. 644 00:35:38,048 --> 00:35:40,616 Ben piped up and said, "Well... 645 00:35:41,443 --> 00:35:43,228 ...I'm not giving up on you, babe." 646 00:35:47,275 --> 00:35:48,972 And the funny thing was is he ended up 647 00:35:49,147 --> 00:35:51,279 kissing one of those girls a couple years later. 648 00:35:53,325 --> 00:35:55,762 First time I met Ben was at a wrestling tournament. 649 00:35:56,066 --> 00:35:57,024 I'd never seen anybody 650 00:35:57,198 --> 00:35:59,026 that had a face like his face. 651 00:35:59,244 --> 00:36:02,247 He had his singlet on, and he had some thermals on 652 00:36:02,421 --> 00:36:03,552 under his singlet. 653 00:36:05,424 --> 00:36:07,034 I mean, I was like, "I'm gonna kick this kid's butt. 654 00:36:07,208 --> 00:36:08,862 Like, he has no idea what he's doing. 655 00:36:09,036 --> 00:36:11,604 Why is he wearing thermals on under his singlet, right?" 656 00:36:19,394 --> 00:36:21,440 And then he kicked my butt in a wrestling match. 657 00:36:23,355 --> 00:36:25,531 And I was like, "Dude, that kid is freaking tough." 658 00:36:25,705 --> 00:36:28,534 Ben significantly improved very quickly. 659 00:36:29,491 --> 00:36:30,971 By the time he went to a high school, 660 00:36:31,145 --> 00:36:33,800 the question is gonna be how far he could potentially 661 00:36:33,974 --> 00:36:35,236 push himself. 662 00:36:39,284 --> 00:36:41,199 Viewmont High School is 53 years old. 663 00:36:41,416 --> 00:36:43,418 It's home to 1800 students. 664 00:36:44,941 --> 00:36:47,944 After years of junior high, other people 665 00:36:48,118 --> 00:36:49,946 become accustomed to seeing you. 666 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,211 But when I went to high school, it-- it wasn't that. 667 00:36:55,300 --> 00:36:57,824 Coming from the junior high in the wrestling room, 668 00:36:57,998 --> 00:37:00,087 for sure, people underestimated him. 669 00:37:00,261 --> 00:37:01,610 The first day when he walked in the room 670 00:37:01,784 --> 00:37:03,046 and people didn't know him, 671 00:37:03,525 --> 00:37:05,919 you know, they would have ma-- made some judgments 672 00:37:06,093 --> 00:37:07,486 like anybody would, right? 673 00:37:07,747 --> 00:37:10,315 That meant he had to kinda step it up a notch. 674 00:37:10,532 --> 00:37:13,622 This is the NCAA Division I 675 00:37:13,796 --> 00:37:15,145 Wrestling Championships. 676 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:16,495 We wanted to help him, 677 00:37:16,669 --> 00:37:18,758 so we went to the NCAA Wrestling 678 00:37:18,932 --> 00:37:20,803 Championships for the first time. 679 00:37:22,457 --> 00:37:24,459 When he saw those men up on the podium... 680 00:37:25,808 --> 00:37:27,810 ...I could see him li-- staring like this. 681 00:37:28,071 --> 00:37:29,899 And I looked at him, and I said, "Ben... 682 00:37:30,639 --> 00:37:33,773 ...you belong on that podium." 683 00:37:37,255 --> 00:37:40,606 And he told me... I could be an All-American. 684 00:37:42,172 --> 00:37:44,087 And I would believe that I could do it. 685 00:37:44,958 --> 00:37:47,743 He nodded his head and said, "Yeah, Dad... 686 00:37:48,962 --> 00:37:50,572 but you've gotta pay the price." 687 00:37:54,489 --> 00:37:56,056 We wanted to start getting him 688 00:37:56,230 --> 00:37:57,405 additional training. 689 00:37:57,797 --> 00:37:59,929 And it just so happened that Greg Williams 690 00:38:00,234 --> 00:38:03,150 started an Elite Wrestling Club 691 00:38:03,542 --> 00:38:05,195 for the kids here in Northern Utah. 692 00:38:06,284 --> 00:38:07,763 I said, "I'm gonna pick ten kids 693 00:38:07,937 --> 00:38:09,417 that wanna get to the college level. 694 00:38:09,591 --> 00:38:10,505 It doesn't matter how good they are now, 695 00:38:10,679 --> 00:38:11,985 as long as they work hard." 696 00:38:12,159 --> 00:38:13,726 Ben stood out. 697 00:38:13,900 --> 00:38:16,859 This kid is so hungry. You could tell by how he wrestled. 698 00:38:17,033 --> 00:38:19,209 But I'm like, "Okay, here are some things he needs to work on." 699 00:38:19,384 --> 00:38:22,691 And-- and Ben is not somebody who you teach him something, 700 00:38:22,865 --> 00:38:24,998 and he just picks it up super fast. 701 00:38:25,172 --> 00:38:27,740 Ben pounds and pounds and pounds. 702 00:38:27,914 --> 00:38:31,265 He grinds it out, and he gets it down by working hard. 703 00:38:32,614 --> 00:38:34,573 I can't count the number of nights... 704 00:38:35,095 --> 00:38:37,924 I finally had to go in and lock the wrestling room up 705 00:38:38,098 --> 00:38:39,969 and chase him out to go home 706 00:38:40,535 --> 00:38:42,145 because he'd still be there working. 707 00:38:44,365 --> 00:38:45,975 I had some high goals. 708 00:38:46,628 --> 00:38:47,673 My parents came to me. 709 00:38:47,847 --> 00:38:48,761 They said they were buying me 710 00:38:48,935 --> 00:38:49,936 a letterman's jacket, 711 00:38:50,676 --> 00:38:52,678 which... was a lot of money. 712 00:38:53,069 --> 00:38:54,984 I remember telling my parents, 713 00:38:55,158 --> 00:38:56,203 "Mom, Dad... 714 00:38:56,986 --> 00:38:58,684 ...I got my last patch I want." 715 00:38:59,032 --> 00:39:01,034 It said "3XSC." 716 00:39:01,426 --> 00:39:04,167 Three-time state champion. 717 00:39:04,864 --> 00:39:06,387 It's one thing to set a goal 718 00:39:06,561 --> 00:39:08,258 in the corner of your room. 719 00:39:08,433 --> 00:39:11,392 It's another thing to stick it on your letterman jacket 720 00:39:11,566 --> 00:39:13,220 where everyone can make fun of you 721 00:39:13,394 --> 00:39:14,743 if you don't reach it, right? 722 00:39:14,961 --> 00:39:16,310 I mean, that was one, you know, 723 00:39:16,484 --> 00:39:17,920 I think Wade and I, we all kinda like... 724 00:39:18,094 --> 00:39:20,009 Kinda-- you know? 725 00:39:20,923 --> 00:39:22,882 At the time, it was unheard of to have 726 00:39:23,056 --> 00:39:24,666 a three-time state champion. 727 00:39:25,014 --> 00:39:26,668 It's not shocking coming from Ben, 728 00:39:26,842 --> 00:39:29,149 confidence that can, you know, maybe be 729 00:39:29,323 --> 00:39:32,152 misconstrued as arrogance or-- or cockiness. 730 00:39:33,458 --> 00:39:36,243 3XSC. 731 00:39:36,417 --> 00:39:37,897 I wrote that everywhere. 732 00:39:38,506 --> 00:39:41,030 Just shy of tattooing it on my forehead. 733 00:39:41,291 --> 00:39:43,642 I started noticing when he would sign his 734 00:39:43,816 --> 00:39:45,774 bout cards, uh, at tournaments. 735 00:39:45,948 --> 00:39:48,386 Well, he'd sign it, "Ben Kjar 3XSC." 736 00:39:49,038 --> 00:39:50,431 This is when he was a sophomore. 737 00:39:51,127 --> 00:39:53,869 We've all had doubt, but I think Ben was just like, 738 00:39:54,043 --> 00:39:55,828 "Hey, I'll show them." 739 00:39:56,437 --> 00:39:57,743 - There's Mom. - Hi, there. 740 00:39:58,047 --> 00:39:59,571 We're going to Ben and Luke's wrestling match 741 00:39:59,745 --> 00:40:01,311 in-- at Cottonwood. 742 00:40:01,486 --> 00:40:03,966 Anybody that had any doubts or any worries, 743 00:40:04,184 --> 00:40:07,187 he took that out of them by his performance 744 00:40:07,361 --> 00:40:08,536 in an awfully big hurry. 745 00:40:15,325 --> 00:40:16,762 You know, he was a bit of a Mighty Mouse. 746 00:40:17,458 --> 00:40:19,939 Just the power that he could produce... 747 00:40:20,113 --> 00:40:21,767 Li-- I re-- literally remember matches-- 748 00:40:21,941 --> 00:40:24,117 kids trying to crawl off the side of the mat 749 00:40:24,291 --> 00:40:26,815 to get out of bounds, and he's dragging them back in 750 00:40:26,989 --> 00:40:28,469 and pummeling them. 751 00:40:29,252 --> 00:40:31,516 He wrestled violently. 752 00:40:32,342 --> 00:40:36,129 When he got on the mat, I would think, "Ben, be nice." 753 00:40:37,870 --> 00:40:39,654 Because he was a fierce wrestler, 754 00:40:39,828 --> 00:40:42,004 there were coaches that said, "I don't want my kids 755 00:40:42,178 --> 00:40:43,528 to wrestle against him. 756 00:40:44,006 --> 00:40:45,486 We don't wanna, you know, give them 757 00:40:45,660 --> 00:40:47,401 traumatic experiences." 758 00:40:49,316 --> 00:40:51,623 Guys saying, "What weight is Ben Kjar wrestling? 759 00:40:51,797 --> 00:40:52,972 Okay, I'm gonna go to a different weight 760 00:40:53,146 --> 00:40:54,147 'cause I don't wanna wrestle." 761 00:40:54,321 --> 00:40:55,670 That was how dominant he was. 762 00:40:55,844 --> 00:40:59,587 It was so fun to finally shine. 763 00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:03,548 Prep wrestling took center stage in Utah 764 00:41:03,722 --> 00:41:05,114 at this week's state tournament. 765 00:41:05,288 --> 00:41:07,160 The reigning champions, Layton High School, 766 00:41:07,334 --> 00:41:10,032 prevailed against an underwhelming performance 767 00:41:10,206 --> 00:41:11,556 from challenger Viewmont High. 768 00:41:11,947 --> 00:41:13,471 One bright spot, though, for the Vikings 769 00:41:13,645 --> 00:41:15,081 was sophomore Ben Kjar, 770 00:41:15,255 --> 00:41:17,431 who won his very first state title, 771 00:41:17,605 --> 00:41:20,347 dominating that 103-pound division, 772 00:41:22,305 --> 00:41:24,046 Ben was, like, the first state champion that we'd had 773 00:41:24,220 --> 00:41:25,439 in a long time. 774 00:41:25,831 --> 00:41:28,311 His popularity was, like, through the roof. 775 00:41:28,921 --> 00:41:32,315 Viewmont High Homecoming King, Ben Kjar. 776 00:41:40,062 --> 00:41:42,761 Everywhere we went, there was a line ten people deep 777 00:41:43,022 --> 00:41:44,893 of wanting to say hi to him. 778 00:41:45,067 --> 00:41:46,808 We'd always make the joke like, "Let's go get our number 779 00:41:46,982 --> 00:41:48,680 and stand in line so we can say hi to Ben." 780 00:41:51,683 --> 00:41:53,554 And then all of a sudden, the cutest girls in school 781 00:41:53,728 --> 00:41:55,556 were, "Oh, Ben!" You know, they'd give them big hugs. 782 00:41:55,730 --> 00:41:57,297 And like, "You're the best." And 783 00:41:57,471 --> 00:41:59,038 me and my buddies were like, "Oh, man, he's-- dude, 784 00:41:59,212 --> 00:42:01,388 he's getting a hug from her? Like, this is crazy." 785 00:42:04,217 --> 00:42:06,828 I was stealing girlfriends one match at a time. 786 00:42:07,002 --> 00:42:08,395 I'm just kidding. 787 00:42:12,573 --> 00:42:16,751 Eventually, we learned the news had gotten hold of the story. 788 00:42:21,321 --> 00:42:23,192 Wrestling is a sport where it's difficult 789 00:42:23,366 --> 00:42:24,803 to hide any weaknesses. 790 00:42:24,977 --> 00:42:26,761 When a soft spot is found, a savvy opponent 791 00:42:26,935 --> 00:42:28,894 should, and normally will, capitalize. 792 00:42:29,068 --> 00:42:31,984 I was so excited for this to be going out. 793 00:42:32,158 --> 00:42:33,725 Like, oh, my gosh. 794 00:42:34,073 --> 00:42:38,599 They filmed all the posters on my walls where it said 3XSC, 795 00:42:38,773 --> 00:42:40,340 and they filmed me. 796 00:42:40,819 --> 00:42:42,342 This is crazy. 797 00:42:42,734 --> 00:42:46,651 And then the night that it's supposed to air, it comes on. 798 00:42:47,565 --> 00:42:49,915 On the mat, Viewmont's best wrestler gives other wrestlers 799 00:42:50,089 --> 00:42:51,525 very little compensation. 800 00:42:53,266 --> 00:42:54,789 And it's of me wrestling. 801 00:42:56,704 --> 00:43:00,447 But the filming was of me neck down, 802 00:43:00,621 --> 00:43:02,405 and I'm like, "What are they doing? 803 00:43:03,232 --> 00:43:05,278 He doesn't even know how to hold a camera." 804 00:43:05,626 --> 00:43:09,412 And then all of a sudden, I... realized why. 805 00:43:09,804 --> 00:43:11,153 Viewmont wrestler, Ben Kjar, 806 00:43:11,327 --> 00:43:13,416 had a lifetime to make excuses. 807 00:43:13,678 --> 00:43:15,854 They moved in to my face... 808 00:43:18,900 --> 00:43:20,467 ...and it was like... 809 00:43:21,163 --> 00:43:22,469 ...slow motion, 810 00:43:22,643 --> 00:43:24,384 and, like, "This is what he looks like. 811 00:43:24,558 --> 00:43:25,603 Look at him." 812 00:43:26,691 --> 00:43:28,257 It's a weakness. 813 00:43:28,823 --> 00:43:31,347 All the camera angles were really close up. 814 00:43:31,870 --> 00:43:33,828 Like, look at this freak, right? 815 00:43:34,002 --> 00:43:35,613 I felt like I was being mocked. 816 00:43:40,922 --> 00:43:42,445 I-- I didn't like it at all. 817 00:43:44,752 --> 00:43:48,103 I was so afraid that people in my school saw it. 818 00:43:49,409 --> 00:43:51,716 I even thought about not going to school the next day. 819 00:43:52,151 --> 00:43:53,369 I'm like, "I'm not going. 820 00:43:53,631 --> 00:43:55,241 I don't wanna show my face." 821 00:43:57,373 --> 00:43:59,419 I go into my class the next day, 822 00:43:59,941 --> 00:44:02,117 and I sit in the back of the room, and I just kinda sit there 823 00:44:02,291 --> 00:44:03,641 with my head down. 824 00:44:04,250 --> 00:44:06,905 I didn't want anybody to mention what happened the night before. 825 00:44:08,950 --> 00:44:10,082 And I looked up. 826 00:44:11,300 --> 00:44:15,783 My teacher, Mrs. Haslam, rolled open this whiteboard, 827 00:44:16,044 --> 00:44:20,745 and on the back whiteboard, she had written 3XSC. 828 00:44:21,659 --> 00:44:22,660 And I... 829 00:44:23,704 --> 00:44:25,097 ...didn't know what to say. 830 00:44:27,447 --> 00:44:29,623 I r-- remember thinking, "That's awesome. 831 00:44:29,797 --> 00:44:31,886 There's a kid who knows what he wants to achieve 832 00:44:32,060 --> 00:44:34,933 and has all the tools and discipline to make it happen." 833 00:44:36,848 --> 00:44:39,633 And she said, "Ben, I watched last night. 834 00:44:40,068 --> 00:44:42,505 Thanks for putting yourself out there, and just know 835 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,290 that we're all rooting for you." 836 00:44:46,248 --> 00:44:48,729 In a moment of complete self-doubt, 837 00:44:49,643 --> 00:44:51,732 she completely changed the perspective. 838 00:44:57,259 --> 00:44:58,652 We felt like there's literally nothing 839 00:44:58,826 --> 00:45:00,262 that could stop him. 840 00:45:00,915 --> 00:45:02,134 He was that dominant. 841 00:45:02,917 --> 00:45:04,353 And the next year, everyone had cleared out 842 00:45:04,527 --> 00:45:07,139 at my weight at 112 pounds the entire year. 843 00:45:07,313 --> 00:45:08,314 It was a cakewalk. 844 00:45:09,750 --> 00:45:12,797 I'm like, "3XSC, easy, green light!" 845 00:45:18,063 --> 00:45:19,368 Ben was wrestling at 112. 846 00:45:19,542 --> 00:45:21,631 I was 119, and Ben decided he was gonna 847 00:45:21,806 --> 00:45:22,981 go back to this tournament. 848 00:45:23,155 --> 00:45:24,809 It was called the Beast of the East. 849 00:45:24,983 --> 00:45:27,594 It was the same time during the Viewmont Invitational. 850 00:45:28,726 --> 00:45:30,858 The 119 class was tougher. 851 00:45:31,293 --> 00:45:32,860 Zac tried it. He wrestled down 852 00:45:33,034 --> 00:45:34,601 because nobody was there. 853 00:45:34,775 --> 00:45:36,516 He did really well. I think he won the tournament. 854 00:45:38,039 --> 00:45:40,912 When I came back, he had dropped weight, 855 00:45:41,303 --> 00:45:43,131 and he was like, "Hey, I wanna wrestle here." 856 00:45:43,523 --> 00:45:45,438 I was not as strong mentally as Ben. 857 00:45:45,612 --> 00:45:47,483 So at 112, I have a better chance. 858 00:45:47,875 --> 00:45:49,181 The thing is, it might just be a 859 00:45:49,355 --> 00:45:51,531 five-pound gap between weights. 860 00:45:52,010 --> 00:45:54,795 But I'm telling you, u-- unless you have wrestled, 861 00:45:54,969 --> 00:45:57,145 y-- you don't realize that that five pounds 862 00:45:57,319 --> 00:45:58,843 might as well be 1000. 863 00:46:00,279 --> 00:46:01,671 I knew how much Ben weighed because I'd 864 00:46:01,846 --> 00:46:03,456 had him on the scales. 865 00:46:03,978 --> 00:46:05,937 He probably could have made 103. 866 00:46:06,764 --> 00:46:07,895 Like, nobody does this. 867 00:46:08,069 --> 00:46:09,854 Nobody says, "Hey, you know what? 868 00:46:10,028 --> 00:46:12,639 I think it's better for the team if I wrestle up a weight," 869 00:46:12,813 --> 00:46:16,425 and really take a significant risk that that 870 00:46:16,599 --> 00:46:20,255 three-time state champion patch wouldn't come true. 871 00:46:21,126 --> 00:46:22,344 And I said, "Do you wanna have a wrestle off 872 00:46:22,518 --> 00:46:24,390 and just... stay down and say, 873 00:46:24,564 --> 00:46:26,000 'Hey, I'm staying at this weight?'" 874 00:46:26,784 --> 00:46:28,350 And it was almost as if 875 00:46:28,524 --> 00:46:30,222 he went and looked at me and goes, 876 00:46:31,745 --> 00:46:33,007 "Wipe off the crybaby face." 877 00:46:33,181 --> 00:46:34,617 You know, kinda, "Where's the challenge? 878 00:46:34,966 --> 00:46:36,532 Where's the challenge in that?" 879 00:46:40,188 --> 00:46:41,755 And the very next tournament... 880 00:46:42,408 --> 00:46:44,627 ...he got beat by a bigger kid that was wrestling 119 881 00:46:44,802 --> 00:46:46,629 that probably came down from 130. 882 00:46:46,934 --> 00:46:49,981 That was his first high school loss in the state at that point. 883 00:46:53,375 --> 00:46:55,595 And then I took a second loss. 884 00:46:55,813 --> 00:46:58,032 I'm like, "What am I doing?" 885 00:46:58,380 --> 00:47:00,818 We all went, "Oh, my goodness." 886 00:47:00,992 --> 00:47:02,123 And when he came home that night, 887 00:47:02,297 --> 00:47:03,733 he says, "Dad, he was so big. 888 00:47:03,908 --> 00:47:05,779 And I felt like I was wrestling Goliath." 889 00:47:09,043 --> 00:47:10,566 And everyone was, like, starting to question, 890 00:47:10,740 --> 00:47:11,959 "Was this the right move?" 891 00:47:12,307 --> 00:47:15,180 I knew, like, if he ended up losing that year, 892 00:47:15,354 --> 00:47:16,659 that he would probably-- 893 00:47:17,182 --> 00:47:18,531 I don't know. I don't know if he'd resent me, 894 00:47:18,705 --> 00:47:20,359 but that-- that thought did cross my mind. 895 00:47:21,795 --> 00:47:22,927 It was amazing to see how 896 00:47:23,101 --> 00:47:24,319 he came back from that. 897 00:47:26,452 --> 00:47:27,496 He didn't cry about it. 898 00:47:27,670 --> 00:47:29,107 He didn't throw a fit about it. 899 00:47:29,716 --> 00:47:30,848 He just got better. 900 00:47:32,414 --> 00:47:36,157 Every single lunch break, every single moment of freedom, 901 00:47:36,331 --> 00:47:37,898 where I had a little bit of a choice, 902 00:47:38,507 --> 00:47:40,466 I was found doing whatever I could 903 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,337 to have a different outcome at state. 904 00:47:43,861 --> 00:47:45,863 I remember being at home, and my brother came home. 905 00:47:46,037 --> 00:47:48,082 He said, "Hey, Ben Kjar is out doing sprints 906 00:47:48,256 --> 00:47:50,389 on Main Street at midnight. What is he doing?" 907 00:47:52,260 --> 00:47:54,001 However, when he made the decision 908 00:47:54,175 --> 00:47:56,047 to go up a weight class, that put him 909 00:47:56,221 --> 00:47:58,614 on the same side of the bracket at state 910 00:47:59,180 --> 00:48:00,790 as this Sullivan kid from Brighton. 911 00:48:01,269 --> 00:48:03,924 Tall drink of water. I think he was almost six feet tall. 912 00:48:04,446 --> 00:48:06,013 In order to get to the state finals, 913 00:48:06,187 --> 00:48:08,146 we gotta go through Sullivan in the semis. 914 00:48:08,755 --> 00:48:10,191 This guy had starved 915 00:48:10,365 --> 00:48:11,801 down 20 pounds. 916 00:48:11,976 --> 00:48:13,673 Two totally different builds, both wrestling 917 00:48:13,847 --> 00:48:14,935 in the same weight class here. 918 00:48:16,981 --> 00:48:19,113 That is a coaching nightmare. 919 00:48:19,809 --> 00:48:21,681 I-- I was a little nervous, quite honestly. 920 00:48:23,335 --> 00:48:25,163 For so many reasons, I thought, 921 00:48:25,380 --> 00:48:27,426 "Ben, you're not gonna beat Sullivan." 922 00:48:29,210 --> 00:48:30,864 And I remember the match just being, like, 923 00:48:31,038 --> 00:48:32,518 very, very close. 924 00:48:32,692 --> 00:48:34,085 - Shoot. Come on. - This is it, this is it. 925 00:48:34,259 --> 00:48:35,390 - This is yours, Ben. - Come on, go! 926 00:48:35,564 --> 00:48:36,609 They got into overtime, 927 00:48:36,783 --> 00:48:37,915 and the guy got into his legs 928 00:48:38,089 --> 00:48:39,307 and was taking Ben down. 929 00:48:39,481 --> 00:48:40,569 Sudden death. 930 00:48:41,527 --> 00:48:42,702 Clear mind, clear mind, Ben. 931 00:48:42,876 --> 00:48:43,790 This is yours. 932 00:48:43,964 --> 00:48:45,139 They started rolling. 933 00:48:45,313 --> 00:48:47,489 Reach deep, Ben. That's it, Ben. Yes! 934 00:48:47,663 --> 00:48:50,188 As he was rolling through that, he could see his 3XSC. 935 00:48:50,362 --> 00:48:52,886 He was reaching for it, going for it, 936 00:48:53,060 --> 00:48:54,279 and he wanted to grab it. 937 00:48:54,453 --> 00:48:55,802 That's it, Ben. That's it. 938 00:48:55,976 --> 00:48:58,152 Reach deep, Ben. That's it. 939 00:48:58,326 --> 00:48:59,501 I don't know how it happened. 940 00:48:59,675 --> 00:49:00,981 I don't know how he did it. 941 00:49:01,286 --> 00:49:02,678 He's on top. 942 00:49:03,636 --> 00:49:04,985 Ben came out on top. 943 00:49:05,377 --> 00:49:08,119 All right! All right! 944 00:49:08,554 --> 00:49:10,817 Pin him! Pin him! 945 00:49:11,165 --> 00:49:13,080 Pin him! Pin him! 946 00:49:15,604 --> 00:49:17,302 All right! 947 00:49:17,476 --> 00:49:18,651 All right! 948 00:49:18,825 --> 00:49:20,174 Woo! 949 00:49:20,566 --> 00:49:22,133 All right! 950 00:49:22,307 --> 00:49:23,308 Ben! 951 00:49:23,482 --> 00:49:24,787 Woo! 952 00:49:25,310 --> 00:49:27,921 Walking off the mat, he says, "See, Coach? I was okay." 953 00:49:29,575 --> 00:49:32,447 Woo! All right, Ben. 954 00:49:32,621 --> 00:49:34,319 Great job! 955 00:49:34,493 --> 00:49:37,148 After that, I think, in Ben Kjar's mind, 956 00:49:37,322 --> 00:49:38,801 there wasn't a human on the planet 957 00:49:38,976 --> 00:49:40,325 that he couldn't take down. 958 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,805 From Viewmont, Ben Kjar. 959 00:49:47,506 --> 00:49:49,377 In the finals, he wrestled a kid from Orem... 960 00:49:52,119 --> 00:49:53,729 ...and the match wasn't even close. 961 00:50:06,090 --> 00:50:08,918 That confidence is contagious. 962 00:50:09,093 --> 00:50:11,008 Everybody around him realized, 963 00:50:11,399 --> 00:50:12,966 "Oh, my gosh, we could win 964 00:50:13,140 --> 00:50:15,012 a state championship as a team." 965 00:50:15,403 --> 00:50:17,057 And as we started the next year, that was 966 00:50:17,231 --> 00:50:19,016 the single focus and the single goal. 967 00:50:24,978 --> 00:50:26,849 Viewmont High School had never won a state title. 968 00:50:27,024 --> 00:50:30,331 Bart Thompson had been there, sacrificing his life 969 00:50:30,505 --> 00:50:31,811 for pennies an hour. 970 00:50:31,985 --> 00:50:33,334 But this was the year. 971 00:50:34,379 --> 00:50:38,122 When you wanna win a state championship as a team, 972 00:50:38,296 --> 00:50:41,168 you really have to get everybody to be on the same page. 973 00:50:41,429 --> 00:50:43,214 And how do you get on that same page? 974 00:50:43,431 --> 00:50:44,650 You have to have a leader. 975 00:50:45,651 --> 00:50:47,522 And everybody else was like, "Well, I mean, 976 00:50:47,696 --> 00:50:49,742 if he's gonna push that hard, I've gotta do it, too." 977 00:50:49,916 --> 00:50:51,700 "If Ben can be positive and set goals, 978 00:50:51,874 --> 00:50:53,833 then I can be positive and set goals." 979 00:50:54,790 --> 00:50:59,143 He expected everybody to be as committed as he was, 980 00:50:59,752 --> 00:51:01,797 and that fed... 981 00:51:02,798 --> 00:51:04,148 ...everybody in the room. 982 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,325 And that year, we just... 983 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,109 absolutely obliterated everyone, 984 00:51:09,283 --> 00:51:10,371 which was so fun. 985 00:51:11,459 --> 00:51:13,113 After years of disappointing finishes, 986 00:51:13,287 --> 00:51:14,767 Viewmont High School's wrestling team 987 00:51:14,941 --> 00:51:16,334 looks to finally win 988 00:51:16,508 --> 00:51:17,987 their very first state championship 989 00:51:18,162 --> 00:51:20,077 at the 5A tournament this weekend. 990 00:51:20,251 --> 00:51:24,081 They enter the tournament as Utah's number one ranked team. 991 00:51:26,779 --> 00:51:29,564 As we go to state, it's a three-day tournament. 992 00:51:29,738 --> 00:51:33,873 And after day one, Bart comes up to me, and he says, 993 00:51:34,047 --> 00:51:36,528 "Ben, Viewmont is having a pep rally. 994 00:51:36,963 --> 00:51:39,270 This is what you have to tell the school." 995 00:51:40,271 --> 00:51:42,011 And what he told me, I couldn't believe. 996 00:51:44,797 --> 00:51:47,626 I have the microphone handed to me, 997 00:51:49,062 --> 00:51:52,892 and I just restate exactly what my coach had said. 998 00:51:54,241 --> 00:51:56,852 "After day one of a three-day tournament, 999 00:51:57,549 --> 00:51:59,028 Viewmont Vikings... 1000 00:51:59,594 --> 00:52:01,988 ...are the 5A 2002 1001 00:52:02,162 --> 00:52:03,598 state champions." 1002 00:52:04,556 --> 00:52:07,385 And everyone was like, fr-- like, "What-- what's going on?" 1003 00:52:07,559 --> 00:52:08,603 Confused. 1004 00:52:10,083 --> 00:52:11,824 We had gained so many points 1005 00:52:11,998 --> 00:52:15,044 that it was impossible for anybody to catch up. 1006 00:52:24,924 --> 00:52:26,621 We broke every record. 1007 00:52:31,104 --> 00:52:33,062 Which meant that for the next two days, the kids 1008 00:52:33,237 --> 00:52:34,412 could wrestle for fun... 1009 00:52:35,891 --> 00:52:36,936 ...and they did. 1010 00:52:41,375 --> 00:52:43,986 The 3XSC was a spark plug. 1011 00:52:44,204 --> 00:52:47,251 Put it out there, pay the price, and go for it. 1012 00:52:51,994 --> 00:52:54,562 I was just as proud of them as I could possibly be. 1013 00:52:56,912 --> 00:52:58,523 It was something that they had earned. 1014 00:53:00,046 --> 00:53:02,309 This is Talkin' Sports. 1015 00:53:03,223 --> 00:53:06,226 Don't mess with Viewmont senior Ben Kjar. 1016 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,751 Kjar led his Vikings to their first ever state team title 1017 00:53:09,925 --> 00:53:11,623 and is now looking ahead. 1018 00:53:11,797 --> 00:53:14,278 I've talked to some of the top colleges in the nation, 1019 00:53:14,452 --> 00:53:16,062 and that would be awesome. 1020 00:53:16,236 --> 00:53:18,325 He's going to be an incredible asset to whatever program 1021 00:53:18,499 --> 00:53:19,457 he ends up with. 1022 00:53:21,154 --> 00:53:23,156 Every big wrestling school in the country 1023 00:53:23,330 --> 00:53:24,636 was trying to recruit him. 1024 00:53:25,506 --> 00:53:28,074 But at the same time in high school, 1025 00:53:28,248 --> 00:53:30,250 I kept pushing back my surgery. 1026 00:53:30,555 --> 00:53:32,948 And if you can imagine how much the structure of your face 1027 00:53:33,122 --> 00:53:34,602 changes through puberty... 1028 00:53:35,081 --> 00:53:37,736 I looked... really different. 1029 00:53:37,910 --> 00:53:39,085 I knew that I had to have it. 1030 00:53:39,259 --> 00:53:40,217 I just wasn't functioning-- 1031 00:53:40,391 --> 00:53:41,783 I-- I couldn't breathe at night. 1032 00:53:43,045 --> 00:53:44,656 Ben needed surgery 1033 00:53:44,830 --> 00:53:47,224 to help reconstruct the mid-face. 1034 00:53:47,789 --> 00:53:49,356 We presented the procedure, 1035 00:53:49,530 --> 00:53:51,140 what needed to be done at that point in time. 1036 00:53:52,664 --> 00:53:54,970 Doctors were telling me, "You gotta do it 1037 00:53:55,144 --> 00:53:57,103 in multiple different surgeries, 1038 00:53:57,364 --> 00:53:59,714 and you need to wear a halo around your head." 1039 00:54:00,541 --> 00:54:03,196 This device still requires surgery, 1040 00:54:03,805 --> 00:54:06,025 but then instead of moving it all at one time, 1041 00:54:06,373 --> 00:54:09,420 we do it by moving the face incrementally. 1042 00:54:09,811 --> 00:54:12,988 I'm like, "Man, we did all these surgeries before in one go. 1043 00:54:13,162 --> 00:54:15,121 Cut my head open. Why can't we do that again?" 1044 00:54:17,123 --> 00:54:19,081 But what shocked me the most is he said, 1045 00:54:19,256 --> 00:54:20,909 "I don't know if you can ever wrestle again." 1046 00:54:21,954 --> 00:54:25,392 I'm very aware of the time frame of doing surgery 1047 00:54:25,566 --> 00:54:28,352 and what is best in terms of their activities. 1048 00:54:28,613 --> 00:54:32,704 If you want it fixed, you can't go back into the same activity 1049 00:54:32,878 --> 00:54:34,401 that you were doing before. 1050 00:54:35,359 --> 00:54:38,492 He wasn't given any options. 1051 00:54:38,753 --> 00:54:40,581 Do you want your face fixed or not? 1052 00:54:41,843 --> 00:54:44,933 I was afraid that once I have that surgery, 1053 00:54:45,107 --> 00:54:46,457 this dream would be gone. 1054 00:54:51,026 --> 00:54:53,333 So after telling them, "I need to have surgeries," 1055 00:54:53,507 --> 00:54:55,466 many of the schools backed off. 1056 00:54:56,902 --> 00:54:58,599 There was only one recruiter left. 1057 00:55:01,515 --> 00:55:05,302 We were going to the Kjar home to recruit Ben. 1058 00:55:05,867 --> 00:55:07,782 I'm from a family of seven kids, 1059 00:55:08,174 --> 00:55:10,307 and I think Ben's, like, 1060 00:55:10,481 --> 00:55:12,787 from a family of maybe two, 300? 1061 00:55:15,660 --> 00:55:17,836 With the surgery, I introduced to him 1062 00:55:18,010 --> 00:55:19,490 the concept of a grayshirt. 1063 00:55:19,664 --> 00:55:21,927 You can actually come for a year of training, 1064 00:55:22,101 --> 00:55:24,712 and it does not count against your eligibility. 1065 00:55:24,886 --> 00:55:26,105 It helps you prepare. 1066 00:55:26,323 --> 00:55:28,629 It's a tremendous advantage. 1067 00:55:28,847 --> 00:55:30,805 And then what happened was it was a package deal 1068 00:55:30,979 --> 00:55:33,286 because Luke decided to come as well. 1069 00:55:33,808 --> 00:55:36,376 It was just such a perfect match for me. 1070 00:55:40,424 --> 00:55:43,296 Right after we got to Oklahoma, my older brother Luke, 1071 00:55:43,470 --> 00:55:45,254 he had a little bit of an underbite as well, 1072 00:55:45,429 --> 00:55:47,039 and he just wanted to fix it. 1073 00:55:47,213 --> 00:55:49,389 And Luke goes into this appointment with this doctor. 1074 00:55:51,348 --> 00:55:53,175 I was talking to the doctor and I told him 1075 00:55:53,350 --> 00:55:56,483 just briefly about what Ben was dealing with. 1076 00:55:56,657 --> 00:55:59,617 He was, like, so intrigued by the challenge. 1077 00:56:00,966 --> 00:56:01,923 And my brother says, "Hey, Ben, 1078 00:56:02,097 --> 00:56:03,577 the doctor wants to meet you." 1079 00:56:03,969 --> 00:56:05,971 And they looked at him, and they said, 1080 00:56:06,145 --> 00:56:08,452 "I think we can do something totally different." 1081 00:56:09,104 --> 00:56:11,890 "And we can get you back on the mat before you know it. 1082 00:56:12,194 --> 00:56:14,196 You can absolutely wrestle again." 1083 00:56:15,589 --> 00:56:17,156 Today's my surgery day. 1084 00:56:18,418 --> 00:56:19,767 There you go. 1085 00:56:21,029 --> 00:56:24,206 When they took the bandages off, we just sat there in awe. 1086 00:56:24,903 --> 00:56:29,647 Son... you look wonderful. 1087 00:56:32,563 --> 00:56:36,001 You see him look at his face and go, "I'm done. 1088 00:56:36,175 --> 00:56:37,829 I'm-- I'm released." 1089 00:56:39,396 --> 00:56:41,572 It was an answer to our prayers. 1090 00:56:42,399 --> 00:56:45,532 After all the surgeries, I'm like, "Oh, man, like, he looks great." 1091 00:56:45,706 --> 00:56:47,969 But Ben's face, my whole life, that was-- 1092 00:56:48,143 --> 00:56:49,318 that was happiness to me. 1093 00:56:51,799 --> 00:56:55,150 I'm happy for him, but I-- I miss that face. 1094 00:56:59,285 --> 00:57:02,984 After my surgeries, I was given three years to heal. 1095 00:57:04,029 --> 00:57:06,858 Staying off the mat as much as I could, it wasn't easy. 1096 00:57:08,860 --> 00:57:10,383 I loved Oklahoma. 1097 00:57:10,862 --> 00:57:14,561 I wanted no more than to just go back and fill in the spot. 1098 00:57:14,953 --> 00:57:16,694 Jack Spates shaking hands. 1099 00:57:16,868 --> 00:57:19,174 They know they have another national champion. 1100 00:57:19,436 --> 00:57:21,742 Coming back after the surgery, 1101 00:57:22,090 --> 00:57:24,658 I'm hesitant in that because 1102 00:57:24,832 --> 00:57:26,573 it's really hard, 1103 00:57:26,834 --> 00:57:29,054 when a guy's been away from wrestling, 1104 00:57:29,228 --> 00:57:30,359 to come back. 1105 00:57:30,534 --> 00:57:32,797 And so we didn't go that route. 1106 00:57:33,624 --> 00:57:34,668 So what do I do? 1107 00:57:35,843 --> 00:57:38,585 I prayed about it, and I felt like I should really 1108 00:57:38,759 --> 00:57:41,196 look at going to Boise State. 1109 00:57:41,762 --> 00:57:43,024 It's close to home. 1110 00:57:43,198 --> 00:57:44,461 There's a Division I program. I believe 1111 00:57:44,635 --> 00:57:45,940 they were, like, top ten in the country. 1112 00:57:46,114 --> 00:57:48,421 And so I verbally committed to Boise State. 1113 00:57:49,727 --> 00:57:53,165 And literally, the next day... we get a call. 1114 00:57:54,601 --> 00:57:56,777 Utah Valley's wrestling team announced Greg Williams 1115 00:57:56,951 --> 00:57:58,475 as their new coach today. 1116 00:58:00,041 --> 00:58:02,391 My club coach has taken over a program 1117 00:58:02,566 --> 00:58:04,132 that I never knew was an option. 1118 00:58:04,611 --> 00:58:06,787 I mean, at the time, it was a junior college. 1119 00:58:06,961 --> 00:58:11,052 But UVSC is about to become Utah Valley University. 1120 00:58:11,226 --> 00:58:13,533 Yesterday, state lawmakers approved 1121 00:58:13,707 --> 00:58:16,623 giving university status to the, now, Division I school. 1122 00:58:17,929 --> 00:58:20,409 Utah Valley jumped directly from junior college 1123 00:58:20,584 --> 00:58:22,499 to Division I. My wrestling program was 1124 00:58:22,673 --> 00:58:24,283 really young at the time. 1125 00:58:24,457 --> 00:58:27,547 We needed Ben, who could come in and change the culture 1126 00:58:27,721 --> 00:58:29,549 and kinda show the rest of our wrestlers 1127 00:58:29,723 --> 00:58:31,986 that they can compete on the national scene. 1128 00:58:32,639 --> 00:58:36,991 But in that jump, they were given a provisional status. 1129 00:58:38,340 --> 00:58:40,778 That means the wrestling team can compete against D1, 1130 00:58:40,952 --> 00:58:42,214 but they can't go post-season, 1131 00:58:42,823 --> 00:58:44,477 so you don't get that opportunity 1132 00:58:44,651 --> 00:58:46,392 to be an All-American or national champion. 1133 00:58:47,436 --> 00:58:49,874 So for Ben to come here, it meant two years 1134 00:58:50,048 --> 00:58:52,267 where he couldn't go to nationals. 1135 00:58:53,486 --> 00:58:55,314 The first time that I could go to nationals 1136 00:58:55,488 --> 00:58:56,663 would be my junior year. 1137 00:58:58,143 --> 00:58:59,927 They didn't even have a wrestling room. 1138 00:59:00,580 --> 00:59:02,974 I would have to haul in mats and haul them back out 1139 00:59:03,148 --> 00:59:04,366 and wash them, like, 1140 00:59:04,541 --> 00:59:06,238 worse than I was in junior high. 1141 00:59:06,847 --> 00:59:08,066 Why would I do that? 1142 00:59:10,372 --> 00:59:11,635 Ben's driving home from Boise. 1143 00:59:11,809 --> 00:59:13,898 I get a call. And he says, "Yeah, 1144 00:59:14,072 --> 00:59:15,900 after, you know, visiting and stuff, 1145 00:59:16,074 --> 00:59:18,424 I decided I'm gonna go to Boise." 1146 00:59:19,425 --> 00:59:23,908 And he says, "Ben, I totally get it, I totally understand." 1147 00:59:25,518 --> 00:59:26,650 I said, "Hey, Greg--" 1148 00:59:27,215 --> 00:59:29,217 I'm like, "What if I told you I was lying to you?" 1149 00:59:31,959 --> 00:59:34,658 The Wolverines announced their most impressive recruit yet. 1150 00:59:34,832 --> 00:59:38,096 Ben Kjar of Viewmont joins as Utah Valley makes a jump 1151 00:59:38,270 --> 00:59:40,272 into Division I competition. 1152 00:59:41,229 --> 00:59:42,448 I don't know... 1153 00:59:43,405 --> 00:59:45,625 ...how many people really understand... 1154 00:59:48,062 --> 00:59:49,803 ...the sacrifice... 1155 00:59:50,456 --> 00:59:53,590 that that was for him, because he knew... 1156 00:59:54,199 --> 00:59:56,288 that he could go to nationals his first year. 1157 00:59:56,462 --> 00:59:58,029 It's not like he didn't believe that. 1158 01:00:00,161 --> 01:00:02,599 I felt like Utah Valley University 1159 01:00:02,773 --> 01:00:04,078 was the place for me to go, 1160 01:00:04,252 --> 01:00:05,384 and I don't know why. 1161 01:00:08,517 --> 01:00:10,955 We ended up with 17 guys living in two houses, 1162 01:00:11,129 --> 01:00:14,219 so the wrestling team was super close from the very beginning. 1163 01:00:16,787 --> 01:00:17,962 We were living in the house. 1164 01:00:18,136 --> 01:00:19,441 So one of the rules of this house 1165 01:00:19,616 --> 01:00:21,052 was there's no alcohol in the house, 1166 01:00:21,269 --> 01:00:23,532 and this was a time where I-- I drank. 1167 01:00:23,707 --> 01:00:25,230 I was not doing good at all. 1168 01:00:25,404 --> 01:00:26,840 Like-- It was, like, taking my medicine. 1169 01:00:27,014 --> 01:00:28,625 I was, like, self-medicating. 1170 01:00:28,929 --> 01:00:31,192 And, uh, I remember I drank, and I was in the house. 1171 01:00:31,758 --> 01:00:33,630 And Ben came home, and he knew. 1172 01:00:34,718 --> 01:00:37,024 I thought I was gonna get kicked out or whatever. 1173 01:00:37,329 --> 01:00:39,113 And that's the last thing on planet Earth 1174 01:00:39,287 --> 01:00:41,289 I needed, you know, it was, like, someone to 1175 01:00:41,550 --> 01:00:42,987 sit down here and lecture you about drinking. 1176 01:00:43,161 --> 01:00:45,076 I'm not a dummy. I know I shouldn't be drinking. 1177 01:00:46,251 --> 01:00:47,948 I'll never forget what he did. 1178 01:00:49,297 --> 01:00:51,125 He sat there, and he was a friend. 1179 01:00:51,386 --> 01:00:52,779 And he asked me questions 1180 01:00:52,953 --> 01:00:55,042 because I needed someone to talk to. 1181 01:00:55,564 --> 01:00:57,479 He never shunned me. 1182 01:00:57,654 --> 01:00:59,568 He never condemned me. He never kicked me out of the house. 1183 01:00:59,743 --> 01:01:01,614 And he never said anything about it after that. 1184 01:01:01,875 --> 01:01:04,051 That's, like, one of the moments, I think, in my life 1185 01:01:04,225 --> 01:01:05,400 where I'm like, 1186 01:01:06,097 --> 01:01:07,228 "I'll go to war for Ben. 1187 01:01:07,402 --> 01:01:09,361 Like, Ben is-- he is a friend." 1188 01:01:11,232 --> 01:01:13,757 He was the face of the university immediately. 1189 01:01:13,931 --> 01:01:16,281 Everybody wanted to be around Ben. 1190 01:01:18,283 --> 01:01:20,720 I ran track at Utah Valley University. 1191 01:01:21,590 --> 01:01:23,288 I had seen pictures of Ben before. 1192 01:01:24,376 --> 01:01:26,857 His poster was always posted around the halls 1193 01:01:27,031 --> 01:01:28,423 in the athletic program. 1194 01:01:29,729 --> 01:01:30,904 I just wanted to be his friend. 1195 01:01:31,078 --> 01:01:33,211 I just wanted to be around him. 1196 01:01:34,342 --> 01:01:35,430 You'd see him on banners. 1197 01:01:35,604 --> 01:01:36,910 You'd see him on magazines. 1198 01:01:37,084 --> 01:01:38,303 He was on billboards. 1199 01:01:39,130 --> 01:01:41,175 Ben was the man, the myth, and the legend. 1200 01:01:41,349 --> 01:01:43,874 And everybody liked themselves best 1201 01:01:44,135 --> 01:01:45,745 when they were with Ben Kjar. 1202 01:01:47,486 --> 01:01:51,446 But on the mat, Ben had that tenacious, gritty, 1203 01:01:51,620 --> 01:01:54,928 like, "I'm here to just rip your soul out" type of mentality. 1204 01:01:56,060 --> 01:01:57,583 Our first wrestling match, 1205 01:01:57,757 --> 01:02:00,064 Ben pins his opponent in, like, 20 seconds, 1206 01:02:00,891 --> 01:02:03,284 before people have e-- even sat down yet. 1207 01:02:05,243 --> 01:02:07,506 There was an absolute mutiny of fans. 1208 01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,596 So from that point on, we always wrestled Ben last, 1209 01:02:10,770 --> 01:02:13,033 to make sure that every single fan had a chance 1210 01:02:13,207 --> 01:02:15,166 to come and watch the guy that they came to watch. 1211 01:02:16,515 --> 01:02:19,474 That year, as a freshman, I led... 1212 01:02:20,127 --> 01:02:22,739 ...the entire country in most wins, 1213 01:02:23,261 --> 01:02:26,046 over the entire NCAA Division I. 1214 01:02:30,224 --> 01:02:31,617 But then to go to nationals 1215 01:02:31,791 --> 01:02:34,098 and sit on my butt in the chair in the stadium 1216 01:02:34,272 --> 01:02:36,622 and watch guys I competed against... 1217 01:02:36,970 --> 01:02:38,450 I'm like, "I should be there." 1218 01:02:39,146 --> 01:02:40,800 And then the next year, same thing. 1219 01:02:40,974 --> 01:02:42,454 Beating guys that were going. 1220 01:02:42,802 --> 01:02:44,848 I'm like, "What am I doing? 1221 01:02:46,893 --> 01:02:47,894 Why did I come here?" 1222 01:02:50,636 --> 01:02:53,770 I had a thing on Facebook pop up that said, 1223 01:02:53,944 --> 01:02:55,380 you might know Ben K-jar." 1224 01:02:55,554 --> 01:02:56,381 I didn't even know how to say his last name. 1225 01:02:56,555 --> 01:02:58,339 But I said, 1226 01:02:58,513 --> 01:02:59,688 "Yes, I want to know him. 1227 01:02:59,863 --> 01:03:00,994 Add Friend." 1228 01:03:01,429 --> 01:03:04,432 The next day he messaged me, and then he 1229 01:03:04,606 --> 01:03:08,610 invited me to hang out with some friends at this party. 1230 01:03:09,002 --> 01:03:10,874 And she said, "Well, that depends. 1231 01:03:11,048 --> 01:03:12,266 Is this a date... 1232 01:03:16,401 --> 01:03:18,707 I was so nervous, 1233 01:03:18,882 --> 01:03:20,231 but I'm like, "You know what? 1234 01:03:21,362 --> 01:03:22,537 I'ma take a shot." 1235 01:03:29,196 --> 01:03:32,373 We had so much fun on this date. 1236 01:03:33,722 --> 01:03:34,898 We played racquetball. 1237 01:03:39,250 --> 01:03:41,078 And when she beat me in racquetball, 1238 01:03:41,687 --> 01:03:44,690 I knew that I either hated this girl or I loved this girl. 1239 01:03:46,474 --> 01:03:48,433 Well, I remember sitting in the car looking over 1240 01:03:48,607 --> 01:03:51,610 at him, just super giddy, and we laughed so much that day. 1241 01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,308 Going home that night, I'm like, "Wow, 1242 01:03:54,482 --> 01:03:57,181 I don't know where she's going, but she's going somewhere 1243 01:03:57,355 --> 01:03:58,617 that I wanna be." 1244 01:03:59,966 --> 01:04:02,882 That night, I wrote in my journal, 1245 01:04:03,491 --> 01:04:06,190 "I think I'm in love with pocket-sized Hercules." 1246 01:04:09,062 --> 01:04:11,064 He was nothing like anybody I'd ever dated. 1247 01:04:13,675 --> 01:04:16,940 And from there on out, we just were inseparable. 1248 01:04:21,379 --> 01:04:23,076 I was just beaming. 1249 01:04:23,598 --> 01:04:25,557 I was on cloud nine. 1250 01:04:29,604 --> 01:04:31,693 There was a little caveat, though. 1251 01:04:33,695 --> 01:04:35,219 I had been planning to move to Italy 1252 01:04:35,393 --> 01:04:36,785 and live abroad for a couple of years. 1253 01:04:37,395 --> 01:04:38,439 It was my dream. 1254 01:04:39,005 --> 01:04:40,528 And then I met Ben. 1255 01:04:41,268 --> 01:04:43,705 I was supposed to leave really soon. 1256 01:04:44,968 --> 01:04:46,012 And I had no idea. 1257 01:04:46,578 --> 01:04:48,275 And I knew I was in trouble... 1258 01:04:49,494 --> 01:04:50,451 ...but I was afraid. 1259 01:04:51,278 --> 01:04:52,584 Could she really love me? 1260 01:04:53,150 --> 01:04:56,109 Especially if that meant raising kids that looked like me. 1261 01:04:57,676 --> 01:05:00,200 We were spending some time together, 1262 01:05:00,548 --> 01:05:02,942 talking things through, trying to figure out what to do. 1263 01:05:05,031 --> 01:05:09,644 I said, listen... this is a serious... thing. 1264 01:05:09,818 --> 01:05:12,125 Our kids, if we have them, naturally 1265 01:05:12,299 --> 01:05:15,259 are gonna be born with Crouzon syndrome. 1266 01:05:17,609 --> 01:05:18,958 You know, I'm not gonna lie, 1267 01:05:19,132 --> 01:05:21,830 I really had to think, "Is this something 1268 01:05:22,005 --> 01:05:23,920 that I'm capable of handling? 1269 01:05:26,923 --> 01:05:28,533 'Cause it's gonna take a strong person." 1270 01:05:32,189 --> 01:05:36,410 I needed to know what Crouzon syndrome... was. 1271 01:05:37,150 --> 01:05:38,369 You go look it up on the internet. 1272 01:05:38,543 --> 01:05:39,674 And it can be scary. 1273 01:05:41,981 --> 01:05:44,679 What it could mean for our kids, for our family, our lifestyle, 1274 01:05:44,853 --> 01:05:45,898 our dreams. 1275 01:05:49,032 --> 01:05:53,427 And it was like this big, dark cloud... 1276 01:05:54,167 --> 01:05:56,256 literally had settled into my mind. 1277 01:05:57,170 --> 01:06:00,652 I was just a mess. I was not sure. 1278 01:06:04,525 --> 01:06:06,353 And then I started to think about Ben. 1279 01:06:15,014 --> 01:06:17,277 I remembered that first time seeing Ben. 1280 01:06:18,452 --> 01:06:20,150 I remembered what I felt. 1281 01:06:23,196 --> 01:06:25,285 And it brought back a memory 1282 01:06:25,633 --> 01:06:27,113 that from a very young age... 1283 01:06:27,809 --> 01:06:29,289 ...I had always felt... 1284 01:06:30,073 --> 01:06:33,815 ...like... God had a calling for me... 1285 01:06:34,816 --> 01:06:37,167 ...that was different than the path 1286 01:06:37,341 --> 01:06:38,951 that I would typically choose. 1287 01:06:40,170 --> 01:06:42,041 I didn't know what it was. I just... 1288 01:06:42,781 --> 01:06:44,739 ...had a feeling there was gonna be something 1289 01:06:44,913 --> 01:06:46,263 different about my family. 1290 01:06:47,394 --> 01:06:48,613 And when I remembered that, 1291 01:06:48,787 --> 01:06:50,702 it was like that dark cloud lifted... 1292 01:06:53,226 --> 01:06:55,011 ...and I could see everything. 1293 01:06:59,580 --> 01:07:01,800 What my life with him would be like. 1294 01:07:08,111 --> 01:07:10,983 I knew exactly what my answer needed to be. 1295 01:07:12,985 --> 01:07:15,857 She said, "If our kids are gonna have Crouzon syndrome, 1296 01:07:16,293 --> 01:07:19,557 well, then, Ben, who better to raise them than us?" 1297 01:07:24,910 --> 01:07:29,523 At that moment I realized, "Oh, my gosh, I could be loved." 1298 01:07:31,438 --> 01:07:33,571 So the day before she was supposed to leave, 1299 01:07:33,745 --> 01:07:35,529 I asked for her hand in marriage, 1300 01:07:36,269 --> 01:07:39,011 and we went to her house and told her parents. 1301 01:07:44,147 --> 01:07:46,105 It had been a lot of work to get LaCol ready 1302 01:07:46,279 --> 01:07:47,324 to go to Italy. 1303 01:07:48,194 --> 01:07:49,804 We were waiting for her to come home 1304 01:07:49,978 --> 01:07:52,416 so we could send her off the next morning. 1305 01:07:53,852 --> 01:07:55,767 Ben comes in the house, 1306 01:07:55,941 --> 01:07:57,943 and the only thing I could think of is, 1307 01:07:58,509 --> 01:08:00,293 "That's funny. I don't know why they're here." 1308 01:08:00,815 --> 01:08:01,990 Well, I just kind of-- 1309 01:08:02,513 --> 01:08:03,688 Yeah, I wondered... 1310 01:08:04,993 --> 01:08:06,647 He was just a good friend coming 1311 01:08:06,821 --> 01:08:08,345 to wish her... 1312 01:08:09,128 --> 01:08:10,173 ...whatever. 1313 01:08:12,827 --> 01:08:15,439 I didn't really know a thing about Ben. 1314 01:08:16,440 --> 01:08:19,182 And then they said, "We decided 1315 01:08:19,704 --> 01:08:21,445 that we're gonna get married." 1316 01:08:24,187 --> 01:08:26,667 It was a real shock. 1317 01:08:27,103 --> 01:08:29,061 I didn't know she was dating anybody. 1318 01:08:31,585 --> 01:08:35,459 I had a feeling Ben was a good person. 1319 01:08:36,112 --> 01:08:41,291 I think that helped me accept what was going on. 1320 01:08:42,988 --> 01:08:45,730 But I was concerned about my wife. 1321 01:08:47,732 --> 01:08:49,690 I think he thought I'd be so happy. 1322 01:08:50,996 --> 01:08:52,258 But she was not happy... 1323 01:08:53,129 --> 01:08:54,869 ...and I don't blame her at all. 1324 01:08:56,523 --> 01:09:01,137 This interesting looking guy comes in, being a complete bozo 1325 01:09:01,311 --> 01:09:03,530 and dropping this on them without any warning. 1326 01:09:04,705 --> 01:09:07,926 My mom is the kindest person you'll ever meet. 1327 01:09:09,667 --> 01:09:12,017 What happened next was so unlike her. 1328 01:09:12,713 --> 01:09:15,455 I've never seen her be unkind to anyone. 1329 01:09:16,195 --> 01:09:19,329 But when we told her, she flipped out. 1330 01:09:21,418 --> 01:09:22,897 I was already stressed out with some 1331 01:09:23,071 --> 01:09:24,595 family stuff going on. 1332 01:09:26,031 --> 01:09:28,729 LaCol had always been my easy kid. 1333 01:09:29,817 --> 01:09:31,776 She always made the right choices. 1334 01:09:34,605 --> 01:09:36,737 So I was so mad. 1335 01:09:36,911 --> 01:09:41,655 If he wants to marry my daughter so bad, why couldn't he wait? 1336 01:09:43,004 --> 01:09:44,615 So I thought the worst. 1337 01:09:45,398 --> 01:09:46,356 Is she pregnant? 1338 01:09:47,183 --> 01:09:48,358 Is she-- whatever. 1339 01:09:50,621 --> 01:09:52,579 But I did not handle it good. 1340 01:09:53,624 --> 01:09:55,103 I just blew up. 1341 01:09:56,844 --> 01:09:58,585 She got up 1342 01:09:58,759 --> 01:10:01,545 in front of Ben's face, and she let him have it. 1343 01:10:06,332 --> 01:10:12,033 ♪ Oh, baby sister, we know That God's got mercy ♪ 1344 01:10:15,602 --> 01:10:21,042 ♪ But not enough to Waste on men like him ♪ 1345 01:10:22,174 --> 01:10:24,089 I felt like I had to protect him 1346 01:10:25,438 --> 01:10:27,048 and physically stand between them. 1347 01:10:29,442 --> 01:10:31,270 I have never in my life seen someone 1348 01:10:31,444 --> 01:10:32,576 take such a verbal beating. 1349 01:10:34,578 --> 01:10:36,144 And Ben just stood there. 1350 01:10:40,801 --> 01:10:44,240 It hurt him for a really long time. 1351 01:10:46,677 --> 01:10:47,634 Not all of us 1352 01:10:47,808 --> 01:10:49,288 do things 1353 01:10:49,462 --> 01:10:52,987 exactly as we should all the time. 1354 01:10:55,163 --> 01:10:57,731 Sometimes good people have a bad day. 1355 01:10:58,863 --> 01:11:04,869 ♪ Sister, put away your guns ♪ 1356 01:11:07,393 --> 01:11:10,570 ♪ You said it In your own words ♪ 1357 01:11:11,919 --> 01:11:14,095 ♪ He'll pay for What he's done ♪ 1358 01:11:15,053 --> 01:11:17,795 They planned their wedding really soon... 1359 01:11:18,752 --> 01:11:20,841 ...and I could see how happy they were. 1360 01:11:23,453 --> 01:11:27,805 And it made me realize my reaction was stupid and bad. 1361 01:11:30,329 --> 01:11:33,114 I apologized to Ben as good as I could. 1362 01:11:34,420 --> 01:11:35,769 We all wish we would have done 1363 01:11:35,943 --> 01:11:37,293 something a little bit different. 1364 01:11:37,902 --> 01:11:38,946 Uh-- 1365 01:11:44,343 --> 01:11:45,518 I'm just grateful... 1366 01:11:46,389 --> 01:11:48,478 ...he is such a forgiving person. 1367 01:11:51,219 --> 01:11:54,658 He's a wonderful son-in-law, and we love him to death. 1368 01:11:55,485 --> 01:11:57,313 He fits in with our family perfectly. 1369 01:12:00,098 --> 01:12:02,883 It was a really awful experience for us to go through. 1370 01:12:03,144 --> 01:12:04,842 But as you go through hard times together, 1371 01:12:05,016 --> 01:12:06,365 you grow closer together. 1372 01:12:06,757 --> 01:12:09,412 And that wasn't the worst of what we would face. 1373 01:12:10,108 --> 01:12:12,937 We are in Omaha for Division I wrestling. 1374 01:12:13,285 --> 01:12:14,634 It was my junior year, 1375 01:12:15,374 --> 01:12:18,116 and I was finally getting my opportunity. 1376 01:12:18,377 --> 01:12:19,987 And I go into nationals-- 1377 01:12:20,553 --> 01:12:22,207 No, no, no, no, no. 1378 01:12:24,340 --> 01:12:26,472 What happened? Guys, what happened? 1379 01:12:27,952 --> 01:12:32,304 And I lose to two kids I'd beat that year. 1380 01:12:32,478 --> 01:12:33,784 Yeah, he's done. That's it. 1381 01:12:36,395 --> 01:12:38,963 I was absolutely depressed, 1382 01:12:39,833 --> 01:12:42,619 pointing fingers at other people and coaches 1383 01:12:42,793 --> 01:12:44,751 and training partners, and "Who else?" Right? 1384 01:12:45,796 --> 01:12:48,276 With everything we were dealing with and now this, it was like, 1385 01:12:48,538 --> 01:12:51,758 "Is there a reason that God is having us go through this? 1386 01:12:51,932 --> 01:12:52,890 Like, I know there's a reason." 1387 01:12:53,238 --> 01:12:54,282 Why? 1388 01:12:54,457 --> 01:12:55,458 Why? 1389 01:12:59,070 --> 01:13:01,768 I wanted to pack up and go home. 1390 01:13:04,510 --> 01:13:05,772 But before I could... 1391 01:13:06,599 --> 01:13:08,732 ...a friend of mine stopped by the wrestling room. 1392 01:13:10,908 --> 01:13:13,301 I was done wrestling, and the reality is is... 1393 01:13:13,650 --> 01:13:16,217 ...I was disgusted with myself and my decisions, and 1394 01:13:16,522 --> 01:13:18,089 I hated myself. 1395 01:13:18,872 --> 01:13:20,874 I made every mistake there was to make 1396 01:13:21,048 --> 01:13:22,398 along the whole entire way. 1397 01:13:23,007 --> 01:13:25,009 And I think that's why it was so heavy on me. 1398 01:13:25,183 --> 01:13:26,358 It's 'cause it's all my fault. 1399 01:13:28,404 --> 01:13:32,973 I know what it feels like to not accomplish the goal. 1400 01:13:33,147 --> 01:13:34,497 And then actually having to live with that. 1401 01:13:34,671 --> 01:13:35,802 Like, it's a horrible feeling. 1402 01:13:37,587 --> 01:13:40,459 And I was like, "I need to do whatever I can do to help him." 1403 01:13:42,766 --> 01:13:44,463 We went at it for a couple of days, 1404 01:13:45,595 --> 01:13:46,813 drilling, wrestling. 1405 01:13:47,771 --> 01:13:49,990 And he barked in my ear the entire time, 1406 01:13:50,948 --> 01:13:53,864 "The Ben Kjar that I know doesn't opt out. 1407 01:13:54,255 --> 01:13:56,475 The Ben Kjar that I know rebounds. 1408 01:13:56,736 --> 01:14:00,392 The Ben Kjar that I know continues forward." 1409 01:14:01,611 --> 01:14:03,134 Look, man, you gotta, like, buck up. 1410 01:14:03,308 --> 01:14:05,397 This is do or die, like, I'm telling you right now, 1411 01:14:05,571 --> 01:14:06,572 I know what this feels like. 1412 01:14:06,746 --> 01:14:08,182 And if you don't place this year, 1413 01:14:08,531 --> 01:14:10,707 it is gonna chew you up the rest of your life. 1414 01:14:11,795 --> 01:14:13,927 I want Ben to win. I want him to win in life. 1415 01:14:14,450 --> 01:14:15,973 I want him to win in his marriage. 1416 01:14:16,190 --> 01:14:17,757 I want him to win in everything. 1417 01:14:18,149 --> 01:14:19,367 Something changed... 1418 01:14:21,282 --> 01:14:23,197 ...and I just started believing. 1419 01:14:25,025 --> 01:14:26,418 This was my last shot. 1420 01:14:27,854 --> 01:14:29,116 Who could stop me? 1421 01:14:36,123 --> 01:14:37,298 All right. 1422 01:14:37,473 --> 01:14:38,735 My name is Anthony Robles. 1423 01:14:39,475 --> 01:14:40,737 I was born missing my leg. 1424 01:14:41,389 --> 01:14:44,088 I've been on crutches since I can remember. 1425 01:14:44,262 --> 01:14:46,743 My mom tried to get me to use a prosthetic leg, but 1426 01:14:46,917 --> 01:14:48,745 it was really heavy, really hard to move around. 1427 01:14:48,919 --> 01:14:50,747 I felt like it slowed me down in a lot of ways. 1428 01:14:53,271 --> 01:14:54,968 Getting into wrestling, I was very much 1429 01:14:55,142 --> 01:14:56,796 at a disadvantage at the beginning. 1430 01:14:57,014 --> 01:14:58,929 I said, "Okay, you know, we just have to figure it out. 1431 01:14:59,103 --> 01:15:00,626 We just have to treat this like a puzzle." 1432 01:15:00,931 --> 01:15:03,063 My coach and I were trying to create a whole new style 1433 01:15:03,237 --> 01:15:04,761 of wrestling from scratch. 1434 01:15:07,111 --> 01:15:09,635 Going into the NCAA tournament my senior year, 1435 01:15:09,809 --> 01:15:12,159 I was the number one seed, and I was undefeated. 1436 01:15:14,335 --> 01:15:17,338 Welcome to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, 1437 01:15:17,817 --> 01:15:20,994 where tonight, the nation's best collegiate athletes will 1438 01:15:21,168 --> 01:15:23,475 compete for a national title. 1439 01:15:23,736 --> 01:15:26,173 In the wrestling world, NCAA All-American 1440 01:15:26,347 --> 01:15:28,088 is like the pinnacle of the sport. 1441 01:15:28,262 --> 01:15:30,874 It is the toughest tournament in the planet to place that, 1442 01:15:31,048 --> 01:15:32,005 to be honest with you. 1443 01:15:32,179 --> 01:15:33,093 And there's 20,000 people 1444 01:15:33,267 --> 01:15:34,530 watching you and screaming 1445 01:15:34,704 --> 01:15:36,009 and hollering, and it's like the best 1446 01:15:36,183 --> 01:15:37,968 of the best... of the best. 1447 01:15:39,709 --> 01:15:41,362 Because I'd lost to guys 1448 01:15:41,537 --> 01:15:42,625 that I should never have lost to, 1449 01:15:42,799 --> 01:15:44,801 I went into nationals unranked. 1450 01:15:45,453 --> 01:15:47,804 His path to get on that podium? 1451 01:15:47,978 --> 01:15:49,457 That was a very loaded weight class. 1452 01:15:49,632 --> 01:15:51,547 You have an undefeated wrestler seeded fourth. 1453 01:15:53,897 --> 01:15:56,943 The fifth seed becomes a four-time All-American. 1454 01:15:58,292 --> 01:16:00,686 That's who he had to go through to be an All-American. 1455 01:16:01,644 --> 01:16:04,647 My first match was with the guy from Hofstra, 1456 01:16:05,561 --> 01:16:07,824 and I think he ate, like, rocks in the morning. 1457 01:16:07,998 --> 01:16:09,913 This dude was bad. 1458 01:16:10,696 --> 01:16:13,960 Takedown, and Kjar is in control. 1459 01:16:14,352 --> 01:16:16,136 And I got through him, beat him. 1460 01:16:17,834 --> 01:16:20,271 And then I'd go into the next match against a kid 1461 01:16:20,445 --> 01:16:22,447 from Old Dominion. Undefeated. 1462 01:16:22,795 --> 01:16:24,275 Top four in the country. 1463 01:16:25,232 --> 01:16:26,973 Tall, strong. 1464 01:16:28,148 --> 01:16:29,672 That was a nail biter, 1465 01:16:29,846 --> 01:16:32,152 but Ben Kjar is going to win this match. 1466 01:16:32,588 --> 01:16:33,806 And I beat him. 1467 01:16:34,328 --> 01:16:36,940 The unranked person beat the undefeated guy. 1468 01:16:38,202 --> 01:16:41,509 It was the best he's looked, ever. 1469 01:16:41,901 --> 01:16:45,078 He wrestled every single match exactly how 1470 01:16:45,252 --> 01:16:46,602 he needed to wrestle those matches. 1471 01:16:50,736 --> 01:16:52,738 I come out in the quarterfinals. 1472 01:16:53,521 --> 01:16:56,046 Utah Valley never had an All-American. 1473 01:16:57,003 --> 01:16:58,918 And if I win this match, 1474 01:16:59,310 --> 01:17:01,704 the unranked kid 1475 01:17:02,008 --> 01:17:03,314 would be an All-American. 1476 01:17:05,316 --> 01:17:08,580 But I had to beat Zach Sanders from Minnesota, who was 1477 01:17:08,754 --> 01:17:10,713 a multiple-time All-American. 1478 01:17:11,583 --> 01:17:16,457 Bad dude, short, stocky, mean, fast, had heavy hands. 1479 01:17:17,067 --> 01:17:18,242 I'd never beat him. 1480 01:17:20,157 --> 01:17:22,289 Earlier in the year, we wrestled him. 1481 01:17:22,725 --> 01:17:25,553 Ben was trying to do his rotation, 1482 01:17:25,728 --> 01:17:27,686 that he was trying to do off bottom to get an escape. 1483 01:17:27,860 --> 01:17:29,949 And Sanders kept bumping him off and bumping him off, 1484 01:17:30,123 --> 01:17:32,691 so he kept having to get back to his hands, back to his hands. 1485 01:17:32,865 --> 01:17:34,171 And he just kept doing that. 1486 01:17:34,345 --> 01:17:35,868 We got ridden out for the two minutes, 1487 01:17:36,042 --> 01:17:37,348 so we lost 2 to 0. 1488 01:17:38,958 --> 01:17:41,744 Fast forward to nationals... same scenario. 1489 01:17:42,222 --> 01:17:43,528 All we needed to do when he was-- 1490 01:17:43,702 --> 01:17:44,964 kept bumping and bumping and bumping 1491 01:17:45,138 --> 01:17:46,574 was just... slide with it. 1492 01:17:47,010 --> 01:17:48,054 Ben does that. 1493 01:17:50,187 --> 01:17:52,145 He got out, and that's where it changed. 1494 01:17:52,406 --> 01:17:54,191 Kjar with the takedown. 1495 01:17:54,974 --> 01:17:56,846 Sanders is stunned. 1496 01:17:57,455 --> 01:17:59,022 Took him down twice in that period. 1497 01:18:00,545 --> 01:18:01,764 That was the match. 1498 01:18:03,374 --> 01:18:06,203 Utah Valley University's first ever All-American, 1499 01:18:06,682 --> 01:18:08,596 and I was a bracket-buster. 1500 01:18:08,771 --> 01:18:11,338 ESPN SportsCenter was saying, "He's shattering the brackets. 1501 01:18:11,512 --> 01:18:15,038 This kid from Utah Valley University-- who is this kid?" 1502 01:18:15,255 --> 01:18:18,955 Out of nowhere, Ben Kjar has erupted into the semifinals. 1503 01:18:19,129 --> 01:18:23,786 I started to believe that maybe I could be a national champion. 1504 01:18:25,918 --> 01:18:27,746 And just like that, Anthony Robles 1505 01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:29,356 gets a one-point escape. 1506 01:18:29,835 --> 01:18:32,142 Going into the semis, I was rolling. 1507 01:18:32,969 --> 01:18:34,622 They were pretty convincing wins. 1508 01:18:35,711 --> 01:18:39,236 Robles was a monster on the mat, and he dominated 1509 01:18:39,410 --> 01:18:41,151 almost everybody he wrestled. 1510 01:18:41,325 --> 01:18:44,154 Once again, Robles is an All-American. 1511 01:18:44,328 --> 01:18:45,808 This guy is probably six feet tall, 1512 01:18:45,982 --> 01:18:49,072 and you're talking about the length of 170-pounder. 1513 01:18:49,246 --> 01:18:51,204 But in reality, because he didn't have a leg, he... 1514 01:18:51,814 --> 01:18:53,772 qualified at 125 pounds. 1515 01:18:54,991 --> 01:18:56,688 When he started wrestling, people would say, "Well... 1516 01:18:57,384 --> 01:18:59,169 he can't do anything with one leg." 1517 01:18:59,343 --> 01:19:01,171 And I didn't recruit him out of high school, 1518 01:19:01,345 --> 01:19:02,476 you know, for that reason. 1519 01:19:02,650 --> 01:19:04,609 But at the end of it, 1520 01:19:04,783 --> 01:19:06,567 they were saying, "Well, he's got an advantage. 1521 01:19:06,742 --> 01:19:07,873 Look how big he is. 1522 01:19:08,178 --> 01:19:09,832 He's got an advantage with one leg." 1523 01:19:10,223 --> 01:19:13,139 Yeah, my friend, you hack off your leg 1524 01:19:13,357 --> 01:19:15,011 and see how well you do. 1525 01:19:15,185 --> 01:19:16,882 Congratulations to Anthony Robles. 1526 01:19:17,056 --> 01:19:18,928 He'll move on to face Ben Kjar. 1527 01:19:19,102 --> 01:19:21,713 I knew it was gonna be a tight match. 1528 01:19:21,887 --> 01:19:23,323 You don't train your whole life 1529 01:19:23,497 --> 01:19:26,587 to beat a wrestler with only one leg. 1530 01:19:28,111 --> 01:19:29,503 Going into the semis against Ben, 1531 01:19:29,677 --> 01:19:31,941 you're one match away from punching your ticket 1532 01:19:32,115 --> 01:19:33,246 into the finals. 1533 01:19:33,725 --> 01:19:36,119 So that round brings a lot of pressure with it. 1534 01:19:36,380 --> 01:19:37,729 And it's on ESPN live. 1535 01:19:37,903 --> 01:19:39,905 The crowd's going insane. 1536 01:19:40,340 --> 01:19:42,908 And then on top of that, it was-- we were friends. 1537 01:19:44,736 --> 01:19:47,086 Anthony is, like, one of my heroes. 1538 01:19:47,695 --> 01:19:49,828 I've known Anthony for a long time. 1539 01:19:50,002 --> 01:19:51,787 Ben and I had been 1540 01:19:51,961 --> 01:19:54,615 competing against each other since true freshman year. 1541 01:19:55,181 --> 01:19:57,270 Him and I wrestled back and forth, and I had beat him 1542 01:19:57,444 --> 01:19:58,706 and he had beat me. 1543 01:20:00,447 --> 01:20:03,102 He was wrestling similar challenges that I was wrestling. 1544 01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:04,321 Woo! 1545 01:20:06,540 --> 01:20:07,846 I expected a battle. 1546 01:20:09,805 --> 01:20:10,762 And here we go. 1547 01:20:10,936 --> 01:20:12,503 The semifinals are underway. 1548 01:20:13,025 --> 01:20:16,812 It was the poster child against the Cinderella story. 1549 01:20:17,725 --> 01:20:20,816 After one period, we are still scoreless here. 1550 01:20:21,642 --> 01:20:23,079 You see these two men come on the mat, 1551 01:20:23,253 --> 01:20:25,385 and you know that there's nothing but character 1552 01:20:25,646 --> 01:20:27,083 going head to head here. 1553 01:20:28,214 --> 01:20:32,088 Kjar has been unable to get an escape in the second period. 1554 01:20:33,306 --> 01:20:35,787 It was extremely close from start to finish. 1555 01:20:37,180 --> 01:20:38,485 Robles gets an escape... 1556 01:20:41,010 --> 01:20:42,707 ...and now there's a takedown. 1557 01:20:42,881 --> 01:20:44,578 Robles goes up 3-0. 1558 01:20:44,752 --> 01:20:46,232 Both of us left our heart on that mat 1559 01:20:46,406 --> 01:20:47,755 and fought to the very end. 1560 01:20:48,365 --> 01:20:50,410 And now Kjar gets an escape. 1561 01:20:50,671 --> 01:20:52,108 It's 3-1, Robles. 1562 01:20:52,369 --> 01:20:54,066 It came down to a last scramble. 1563 01:20:54,980 --> 01:20:57,504 Kjar can tie it up with a takedown here. 1564 01:20:58,114 --> 01:20:59,811 Right at the end, you know, Ben's shooting, 1565 01:20:59,985 --> 01:21:01,465 and you kinda see that extra 1566 01:21:01,639 --> 01:21:02,901 umph. 1567 01:21:03,206 --> 01:21:04,642 Kjar gets the takedown. 1568 01:21:05,164 --> 01:21:07,123 Oh, but it's after the whistle. 1569 01:21:07,427 --> 01:21:08,602 No overtime. 1570 01:21:08,776 --> 01:21:10,474 This one is over. 1571 01:21:10,691 --> 01:21:12,258 If we had had five more seconds in the match, 1572 01:21:12,432 --> 01:21:14,391 he would have tied it, sent it into overtime. 1573 01:21:14,782 --> 01:21:15,827 It was that close. 1574 01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:20,353 I gave him the closest match he had in that tournament, 1575 01:21:20,527 --> 01:21:22,660 but... he had a better match. 1576 01:21:26,229 --> 01:21:28,361 When you lose in tight situations like that. 1577 01:21:28,535 --> 01:21:30,276 It can be heartbreaking. There's poor sports. 1578 01:21:30,450 --> 01:21:31,669 You know, there's guys that throw tantrums. 1579 01:21:31,843 --> 01:21:32,800 There's guys that just slap your hand 1580 01:21:32,975 --> 01:21:34,280 and walk away. 1581 01:21:34,498 --> 01:21:36,152 Ben-- You know, I just remember I could-- 1582 01:21:36,326 --> 01:21:37,631 I could see the pain in his face... 1583 01:21:38,241 --> 01:21:40,896 ...but he was still so gracious, even in that moment of a defeat. 1584 01:21:41,592 --> 01:21:42,898 You know, he still shook my hand. 1585 01:21:43,072 --> 01:21:44,508 I remember we hugged afterwards, and... 1586 01:21:44,900 --> 01:21:46,814 ...Ben, to me, is an example of what a true champion is. 1587 01:21:47,163 --> 01:21:48,773 You know, like, yeah, it's-- it's easy to win 1588 01:21:48,947 --> 01:21:50,166 and be gracious, 1589 01:21:50,383 --> 01:21:51,819 but, you know, how do you handle a loss? 1590 01:21:53,821 --> 01:21:56,607 As he was walking off the mat, everybody's cheering. 1591 01:21:56,781 --> 01:21:58,217 And my sister says to me, 1592 01:21:58,696 --> 01:22:00,959 "Why are they cheering that he lost?" 1593 01:22:01,829 --> 01:22:03,309 I said, "Honey... 1594 01:22:04,354 --> 01:22:06,095 ...they weren't cheering that he lost. 1595 01:22:06,704 --> 01:22:08,358 They were cheering the magnificence... 1596 01:22:09,141 --> 01:22:10,577 ...of his performance." 1597 01:22:12,014 --> 01:22:13,363 It was amazing. 1598 01:22:13,624 --> 01:22:15,800 Fans at the NCAA tournament, they get it, 1599 01:22:15,974 --> 01:22:18,716 and the respect that was there was-- was incredible. 1600 01:22:23,939 --> 01:22:26,158 It was hard for me to lose my last match, 1601 01:22:26,332 --> 01:22:27,812 and it didn't sit well with me. 1602 01:22:28,987 --> 01:22:30,946 But I tried to forget it and celebrate 1603 01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,513 the victory of being Utah Valley University's first ever 1604 01:22:33,687 --> 01:22:34,688 All-American. 1605 01:22:37,343 --> 01:22:41,478 My greatest memory is being able to hear the PA announcer say 1606 01:22:41,652 --> 01:22:43,828 "Ben Kjar is Utah Valley University's first 1607 01:22:44,133 --> 01:22:45,656 NCAA All-American." 1608 01:22:46,222 --> 01:22:47,788 From Utah Valley University, 1609 01:22:48,224 --> 01:22:50,661 All-American, Ben Kjar. 1610 01:22:54,404 --> 01:22:56,449 The first All-American from Utah... 1611 01:22:56,623 --> 01:22:59,626 That really, for the first time, put Utah Valley University 1612 01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:02,238 on the map on a national scale. 1613 01:23:04,588 --> 01:23:06,938 You're stoked. You're happy for him, you know? Like-- 1614 01:23:07,156 --> 01:23:08,548 It's almost like we won. 1615 01:23:08,766 --> 01:23:11,377 When he wins, we win 'cause he's a friend. 1616 01:23:12,422 --> 01:23:14,380 And this is the wonder of sport, right? 1617 01:23:14,554 --> 01:23:16,687 You say, "Well, they can't do that," and then they do. 1618 01:23:16,904 --> 01:23:20,256 It opened up a lot of doors for others 1619 01:23:20,430 --> 01:23:22,258 that may have questioned, "Well, can I do this?" 1620 01:23:22,432 --> 01:23:23,476 W-- Well, Anthony did. 1621 01:23:24,129 --> 01:23:25,174 Well, Ben did. 1622 01:23:27,350 --> 01:23:29,830 It's just the things of what dreams are made of. 1623 01:23:30,875 --> 01:23:32,964 The respect that I have for Ben. 1624 01:23:33,138 --> 01:23:34,574 The ability to-- 1625 01:23:34,879 --> 01:23:36,750 It isn't winning. It's achieving. 1626 01:23:39,101 --> 01:23:41,581 You belong on that podium. 1627 01:23:53,506 --> 01:23:56,118 We were on a family vacation, all of us. 1628 01:23:57,728 --> 01:24:00,165 Ben and LaCol-- one night, they just went out and said, 1629 01:24:00,339 --> 01:24:01,775 "We gotta go out for a walk." 1630 01:24:03,647 --> 01:24:07,259 I had a couple of our kids say, "Is Ben okay?" 1631 01:24:07,433 --> 01:24:08,478 Something's going on. 1632 01:24:08,652 --> 01:24:09,914 You know, something is wrong. 1633 01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:14,527 Those years after the NCAA tournament 1634 01:24:14,701 --> 01:24:16,486 were a really hard time in our marriage. 1635 01:24:18,792 --> 01:24:21,621 We decided that we would start our family. 1636 01:24:22,883 --> 01:24:26,235 And... it didn't come so easy. 1637 01:24:28,150 --> 01:24:30,500 It was eight years that we tried to have kids. 1638 01:24:31,196 --> 01:24:33,764 We got some doctors involved eventually, 1639 01:24:33,938 --> 01:24:36,332 and... we did four rounds of IVF. 1640 01:24:37,028 --> 01:24:40,205 And with two of those rounds, we had pregnancies happen. 1641 01:24:41,163 --> 01:24:44,644 And about week ten of the pregnancies, 1642 01:24:44,862 --> 01:24:46,124 we lost the baby. 1643 01:24:48,083 --> 01:24:52,043 It was... emotionally draining. 1644 01:24:53,958 --> 01:24:56,482 And then we decided we'll try adoption. 1645 01:24:57,309 --> 01:24:59,137 We decided not to tell anybody. 1646 01:24:59,355 --> 01:25:01,400 We don't wanna have people be like, "Oh, poor you, 1647 01:25:01,574 --> 01:25:03,533 poor you," and feel like victims, right? 1648 01:25:03,881 --> 01:25:06,536 So nobody in my family even knew about the miscarriage, 1649 01:25:06,971 --> 01:25:08,668 let alone the adoption. 1650 01:25:10,453 --> 01:25:12,237 I was so nervous going into these 1651 01:25:12,411 --> 01:25:14,109 adoption agencies. 1652 01:25:14,413 --> 01:25:16,198 You would be expected to fill out 1653 01:25:16,372 --> 01:25:19,157 this application with pictures of you, of what you look like. 1654 01:25:21,203 --> 01:25:25,076 What if they wouldn't choose us because I look different? 1655 01:25:26,556 --> 01:25:29,776 But after we had put in our application, 1656 01:25:30,734 --> 01:25:33,345 we had a birth mother immediately matched with us. 1657 01:25:35,217 --> 01:25:37,044 And she was pregnant with a beautiful girl. 1658 01:25:38,307 --> 01:25:40,961 Every month, we would be paying for her housing and all 1659 01:25:41,136 --> 01:25:42,180 her expenses. 1660 01:25:42,789 --> 01:25:44,748 And then after the last payment... 1661 01:25:46,141 --> 01:25:47,664 ...we'd find out through an email 1662 01:25:47,838 --> 01:25:49,492 that she would keep the baby. 1663 01:25:52,016 --> 01:25:55,933 Later, we were matched with another birth mom. 1664 01:25:56,281 --> 01:25:59,154 And for six months, we were so excited, 1665 01:25:59,328 --> 01:26:02,766 paying her every month for room and board and living expenses. 1666 01:26:03,593 --> 01:26:06,117 And then she stopped showing up to the medical appointments. 1667 01:26:08,859 --> 01:26:13,559 We would find out that she was placing the same baby girl 1668 01:26:13,733 --> 01:26:16,127 with two other families, 1669 01:26:16,606 --> 01:26:19,174 and she was financially triple-dipping. 1670 01:26:20,349 --> 01:26:21,915 We were tons of money out. 1671 01:26:24,309 --> 01:26:27,182 ♪ They'll take Everything you have ♪ 1672 01:26:29,662 --> 01:26:31,664 ♪ And dress you up in red ♪ 1673 01:26:31,838 --> 01:26:33,231 That was one of the hardest things 1674 01:26:33,405 --> 01:26:34,493 I ever went through... 1675 01:26:35,538 --> 01:26:39,281 ...because now I had someone else who was involved, 1676 01:26:39,455 --> 01:26:43,502 who was a part of this journey that seemed to be, 1677 01:26:44,547 --> 01:26:47,898 like... never-ending fails. 1678 01:26:48,899 --> 01:26:51,206 ♪ You'll think of What you've done ♪ 1679 01:26:53,686 --> 01:26:55,906 ♪ Of what you have become ♪ 1680 01:26:57,342 --> 01:27:01,607 My wife just pounded on my chest and just bawled. 1681 01:27:03,609 --> 01:27:06,264 We were complaining to each other about the frustrations 1682 01:27:06,438 --> 01:27:09,311 and the anger and how mad we were. 1683 01:27:11,661 --> 01:27:13,967 We would look up to God and say, "God, why us?" 1684 01:27:17,014 --> 01:27:18,885 It just felt like we were living a nightmare. 1685 01:27:22,846 --> 01:27:25,805 And literally, the next morning we get a call. 1686 01:27:27,285 --> 01:27:30,897 "Hey, Ben and LaCol, how would you like to be parents? 1687 01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:36,468 There's a baby boy. 1688 01:27:36,816 --> 01:27:38,688 He was actually born last night." 1689 01:27:39,819 --> 01:27:42,561 It was incredible to hear those words. 1690 01:27:44,433 --> 01:27:46,652 Of course. Of course, we want that boy. 1691 01:27:50,830 --> 01:27:54,704 Fifteen hours later, from phone call to touch down... 1692 01:27:55,574 --> 01:27:56,575 ...we're parents. 1693 01:27:58,055 --> 01:27:59,709 She hands me this baby. 1694 01:28:01,406 --> 01:28:04,279 He's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. 1695 01:28:07,978 --> 01:28:09,980 And we just couldn't believe it. 1696 01:28:11,373 --> 01:28:14,593 And the best part was my family has no clue 1697 01:28:14,767 --> 01:28:16,291 at this point, right? 1698 01:28:21,339 --> 01:28:23,994 This is absolutely nuts. 1699 01:28:24,168 --> 01:28:27,693 When we came home, we were able to surprise our families. 1700 01:28:27,867 --> 01:28:30,348 They knew nothing about the adoption. 1701 01:28:32,655 --> 01:28:35,788 We get the whole family at this dinner. 1702 01:28:36,702 --> 01:28:39,270 We're all chatting, and then there's a knock, knock, knock. 1703 01:28:41,011 --> 01:28:42,317 There's another thing at the door? 1704 01:28:42,491 --> 01:28:43,927 - What is it? - Uh, that's a baby. 1705 01:28:44,101 --> 01:28:47,974 There's a little baby boy on our front porch. 1706 01:28:48,410 --> 01:28:49,324 No, it isn't. 1707 01:28:49,498 --> 01:28:50,890 It's a baby. 1708 01:28:51,282 --> 01:28:52,892 - No, it isn't. - What is happening? 1709 01:28:54,416 --> 01:28:55,982 We're saying, "What is this?" 1710 01:28:56,592 --> 01:28:58,420 - Who brought this baby? - No. 1711 01:28:58,855 --> 01:29:00,683 As we're looking around, kinda frantic, 1712 01:29:00,857 --> 01:29:01,858 trying to figure this out, 1713 01:29:02,032 --> 01:29:03,033 we see a different look 1714 01:29:03,207 --> 01:29:04,687 on Ben and LaCol's face. 1715 01:29:04,948 --> 01:29:06,166 Ben, Ben. 1716 01:29:06,341 --> 01:29:08,168 - Ben, is this yours? - Ben. 1717 01:29:08,343 --> 01:29:09,953 No. Is this yours? 1718 01:29:16,699 --> 01:29:18,396 Are you serious? 1719 01:29:21,791 --> 01:29:26,709 And it was like the floodgates opened, of joy, of tears, 1720 01:29:27,013 --> 01:29:28,711 of gratitude. 1721 01:29:30,234 --> 01:29:32,018 This prayer has been answered. 1722 01:29:38,895 --> 01:29:41,854 Of course, we thought that was the surprise. 1723 01:29:42,986 --> 01:29:45,075 And then, as we were loving on this little baby 1724 01:29:45,249 --> 01:29:46,990 and asking all these questions 1725 01:29:47,164 --> 01:29:48,948 and crying and giving gratitude... 1726 01:29:50,820 --> 01:29:52,299 ...there's another doorbell. 1727 01:29:52,474 --> 01:29:54,127 No, you gotta be kidding. 1728 01:29:54,301 --> 01:29:55,520 No! 1729 01:29:59,350 --> 01:30:02,048 Right after we'd signed the papers to adopt Liam, 1730 01:30:02,484 --> 01:30:04,094 the adoption director says, 1731 01:30:04,268 --> 01:30:06,226 "I just barely got off the phone... 1732 01:30:07,663 --> 01:30:09,404 ...with another birth mom. 1733 01:30:12,232 --> 01:30:13,408 Baby girl. 1734 01:30:14,539 --> 01:30:15,540 What do you think?" 1735 01:30:20,589 --> 01:30:22,199 Oh, my gosh. 1736 01:30:25,594 --> 01:30:29,554 To top it off with a second one, you see my wife go crazy. 1737 01:30:29,859 --> 01:30:30,860 A girl. 1738 01:30:34,559 --> 01:30:36,822 When you pray so long for something to happen, 1739 01:30:36,996 --> 01:30:38,171 when God delivers... 1740 01:30:40,304 --> 01:30:41,871 ...He really delivers. 1741 01:30:45,831 --> 01:30:47,703 Ben has always dreamed about being a father, 1742 01:30:47,877 --> 01:30:49,574 and he loves being a father. 1743 01:30:51,141 --> 01:30:52,838 LaCol loves being a mom. 1744 01:30:54,231 --> 01:30:57,321 It was one of those days that you'll never, ever forget. 1745 01:31:04,241 --> 01:31:07,723 We had created a video of the surprise. 1746 01:31:09,551 --> 01:31:12,205 Initially, it was just supposed to be for us. 1747 01:31:13,598 --> 01:31:16,079 Well, it ended up kinda going viral. 1748 01:31:17,036 --> 01:31:20,953 This is, in my opinion, the greatest baby reveal ever made. 1749 01:31:21,127 --> 01:31:23,086 I love this video. 1750 01:31:23,390 --> 01:31:27,438 People from all over the world were so inspired by it. 1751 01:31:27,612 --> 01:31:31,094 There are beautiful things going on in this world 1752 01:31:31,268 --> 01:31:32,922 that you would think are impossible, 1753 01:31:33,096 --> 01:31:34,271 but they are happening. 1754 01:31:37,753 --> 01:31:39,406 Of course, with any video, 1755 01:31:39,581 --> 01:31:42,497 you'll get some negative things that are said. 1756 01:31:45,500 --> 01:31:47,066 These comments were all new to me. 1757 01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:49,852 I had never been bullied before. 1758 01:31:50,548 --> 01:31:53,725 To have someone say these mean horrible things 1759 01:31:53,899 --> 01:31:57,424 about my husband, the person that I love the most... 1760 01:31:58,469 --> 01:31:59,426 It-- 1761 01:31:59,601 --> 01:32:01,428 A-- At first, I'd get angry. 1762 01:32:05,041 --> 01:32:06,129 I wanted to hide. 1763 01:32:08,958 --> 01:32:12,222 I wanted to react with anger and resentment. 1764 01:32:14,311 --> 01:32:17,444 I tried to laugh it off, but I couldn't. 1765 01:32:18,794 --> 01:32:20,012 What would you do in 1766 01:32:20,186 --> 01:32:22,145 this scenario for this person that 1767 01:32:22,319 --> 01:32:23,233 just said this? 1768 01:32:23,407 --> 01:32:24,756 What would your response be? 1769 01:32:27,106 --> 01:32:29,282 When you're backed against a wall of hate... 1770 01:32:31,894 --> 01:32:33,199 ...what are you gonna choose? 1771 01:32:39,336 --> 01:32:41,730 Finally, I responded back to a comment 1772 01:32:41,904 --> 01:32:43,079 from a kid I'd never met. 1773 01:32:47,910 --> 01:32:50,129 I never expected to hear back from him. 1774 01:32:52,958 --> 01:32:55,874 Five years later, he reached out to me on social media, 1775 01:32:56,571 --> 01:32:58,137 and that moment changed my life. 1776 01:33:04,753 --> 01:33:06,755 It showed me, instead of 1777 01:33:06,929 --> 01:33:08,539 you know, calling people "round face" 1778 01:33:08,713 --> 01:33:11,411 or running away or laughing it off, I can be me. 1779 01:33:13,283 --> 01:33:14,327 I am enough. 1780 01:33:15,154 --> 01:33:17,287 And all that I'm meant to be is me. 1781 01:33:29,038 --> 01:33:31,431 One of the women that wrote something very mean, 1782 01:33:31,606 --> 01:33:33,085 she wrote back and said, 1783 01:33:33,956 --> 01:33:36,001 "My son's name was Liam, 1784 01:33:36,175 --> 01:33:37,699 and he passed away. 1785 01:33:38,134 --> 01:33:42,704 When I read about you getting a baby and his name was Liam," 1786 01:33:42,965 --> 01:33:45,620 she said, "I exploded." 1787 01:33:46,838 --> 01:33:48,753 And she said, "The way that you responded 1788 01:33:48,927 --> 01:33:50,233 changed my life. 1789 01:33:50,407 --> 01:33:53,628 And I have, since then, been trying to... 1790 01:33:53,889 --> 01:33:56,892 ...be that person that you told me I should be." 1791 01:33:59,285 --> 01:34:01,548 It's happened so many times. 1792 01:34:03,594 --> 01:34:07,293 People will come back, and you'll see that change. 1793 01:34:09,818 --> 01:34:11,646 Recently, Ben and I were able to take 1794 01:34:11,820 --> 01:34:14,649 my mom to a retreat for kids with craniofacial differences. 1795 01:34:19,741 --> 01:34:22,700 She was loving on these kids, 1796 01:34:22,874 --> 01:34:24,267 loving on them. 1797 01:34:24,571 --> 01:34:27,574 And they were able to feel her love to be there. 1798 01:34:30,403 --> 01:34:33,145 You just have so much love for those kids. 1799 01:34:34,016 --> 01:34:38,150 Looking in their face, it's like looking at angels. 1800 01:34:41,850 --> 01:34:45,070 I have such good people in my corner. 1801 01:34:49,596 --> 01:34:51,555 Life is full of a bunch of choices. 1802 01:34:53,775 --> 01:34:56,995 We can make excuses, or we can just... 1803 01:34:57,343 --> 01:34:59,606 chew the excuses up and swallow 'em 1804 01:34:59,998 --> 01:35:01,783 and never let them leave our mouth. 1805 01:35:01,957 --> 01:35:04,742 And we can keep going and doing the hard things. 1806 01:35:06,091 --> 01:35:07,658 And then you end up like Ben. 1807 01:35:13,533 --> 01:35:16,406 I still think about that story at the Pool of Bethesda... 1808 01:35:18,538 --> 01:35:19,626 ...but it's different now. 1809 01:35:21,803 --> 01:35:23,239 I'm no longer the man who waits. 1810 01:36:07,413 --> 01:36:09,807 Oh, my gosh. 1811 01:36:15,073 --> 01:36:16,466 Oh, my goodness. 1812 01:36:17,336 --> 01:36:19,904 I can't believe we fell for this twice. 1813 01:36:27,956 --> 01:36:28,957 And that is going to do it 1814 01:36:29,131 --> 01:36:30,654 for All-American, Ben Kjar. 1815 01:36:31,133 --> 01:36:32,656 He finishes fourth overall. 1816 01:36:41,447 --> 01:36:42,448 Sixty-seven. 1817 01:36:43,885 --> 01:36:45,234 Go, Dad! 1818 01:36:47,279 --> 01:36:48,933 Oh! 1819 01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:03,426 Yeah, Ben! 1820 01:37:50,473 --> 01:37:52,257 Tani Taufa has autism. 1821 01:37:52,431 --> 01:37:54,085 It makes it tough for him to communicate, 1822 01:37:54,259 --> 01:37:56,174 especially in social situations. 1823 01:37:56,522 --> 01:37:57,697 Then he found wrestling. 1824 01:37:57,872 --> 01:37:59,395 Roll it. Nice. Good job. 1825 01:37:59,569 --> 01:38:01,353 He started training with coach, Ben Kjar. 1826 01:38:01,527 --> 01:38:03,790 There's just that inner understanding of, 1827 01:38:03,965 --> 01:38:06,445 "I got your back 'cause I know you've been where I've been." 1828 01:38:07,359 --> 01:38:09,492 It felt like good things are finally 1829 01:38:09,666 --> 01:38:12,321 gonna come to me in my life, alongside Ben. 1830 01:38:34,125 --> 01:38:35,953 When I was younger, watching TV, all the villains 1831 01:38:36,127 --> 01:38:38,303 had scars and deformities and everything. 1832 01:38:38,738 --> 01:38:42,220 They portray us as monsters, ugly, unworthy. 1833 01:38:42,394 --> 01:38:44,048 Like, I didn't think I had a place. 1834 01:38:44,831 --> 01:38:47,617 Ben-- he's a representation for the whole community 1835 01:38:47,791 --> 01:38:50,489 to create dreams or create goals for yourself. 1836 01:38:51,838 --> 01:38:53,014 I know that he's able to do it. 1837 01:38:53,188 --> 01:38:54,276 Why can I not do it? 1838 01:39:09,073 --> 01:39:10,248 I was born to stand out! 1839 01:39:10,422 --> 01:39:12,076 I was born to stand out! 1840 01:39:12,250 --> 01:39:13,860 I was born to stand out! 1841 01:39:14,035 --> 01:39:15,601 - Stand out! - Stand out! 1842 01:39:15,775 --> 01:39:17,429 - Stand out! - Stand out! 1843 01:39:17,603 --> 01:39:19,127 - Stand out! - Stand out! 1844 01:39:19,301 --> 01:39:21,129 - Stand out! - Stand out! 1845 01:39:21,303 --> 01:39:23,392 - Stand out! - Stand out! 143043

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