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Hello Simon.

Oh, that's brilliant, glad to hear. No
trouble at all, we've got a recording

it went well.

Hello Danny, good morning, can you hear
us?

Fantastic, how are you today?

Yeah, and thanks for finding the time on
such short notice.

I can turn mine off if it makes things
better.

So I just came off a call with Mike
Lusso and he explained his involvement

the process of converting the modules.

So I think I've got a slightly better
idea. Every step helps.

And I'd like to kind of ask the same
questions to you to understand

the whole process that you are involved
in and how it works and

please do answer very silly questions

as well if I ask things like oh what
kind of notebook do you use how do you

write what's the pen color because those
little things make a difference they're

valuable in understanding where the
knowledge sits and what

the decision process is for doing
things.

So I've sent a couple of questions via

email, but really it's about an
unstructured conversation that I'm

having with you.

So please, Danny, can you tell me what's
the process from your perspective from

receiving a project all the way to
having a

manual finished and delivered

Yep All right

Yeah, yeah, you're looking at the hand
Tranet Dockman and you're looking

at the 450 and 550 service manual

Okay, so if we go back to the
troubleshooting that you showed me at

can you explain where the information
comes from? So you're explaining the

functions and you're explaining the
purpose. Do you have the device at hand

how do you know what information is
right?

Actually,

I don't think we have the exploded
drawings. I've seen the parts list,

but I don't think I've seen this level
of detail.

Okay, great.

Okay, so I'm trying to structure this in
a way that I can utilize within the

planning of the AI knowledge base.

Effectively, my goal is to both
understand the process and understand

information that gets passed through
that process.

so that I can create a database that
holds it. And you're describing

several different kinds of jobs.

One, the job of taking a document in one
format

and converting it to another format.
That's what we're looking at here with

exploded drawings.

That is in my mind where

The system contains a reference IDML
file, what a code

style part list should look like, and
then it receives a non -code part

list and it just works it together so
that the new parts are formatted in a

document like the code document.

So that's clear.

And the other job is Where you already
know stuff and you

have to write it into a new document
That's going to be a lot more

difficult to capture so Can you maybe
walk

me through how you receive those
specifications So I have a better

of the input and

is it just an email

Okay are those two so actually yeah, so
you've got

Then jobs where it's about writing a new
maintenance

manual.

Can we have a look at an example of
something like that?

No, no, it's great. It gives me insight
into the process.

Thanks. The purpose of this call isn't
for me to just see the polished

finished product, right? I want to
understand the process.

Yeah, this is one of the ones we've been
analyzing.

Okay. So, when you write this, how many

iterations are there and who else is
involved?

Is there like a review person here?

Yeah.

Got it.

How do they send it back to you?

Do you have a document like that sitting
around?

I'd be keen to see what kind of comments
they make.

Fantastic, thanks.

Do you mind if I talk while you search?

So the high -level idea is if we just
give a big complex job to the

large language model, then it will start
to hallucinate, it will get lost, it

won't have enough context, it will make
things up that it thinks should be

there. It will just do its best to
please instead of accurately answering

questions. So what we have to do
together is divide the

project into bite -sized jobs where the
AI is always fed with

the relevant information or at least
access to the relevant information and

given super clear instructions what
needs to be done. And if we manage to do

that,

then we can create an interface on top
of it that does all of these

little bits in such a way that they are
actually helpful.

So in my mind, we need to create a
knowledge base where all of this

information lives.

Then we need to create a web app on top
of that knowledge base

that lets you see what...

is the current state of knowledge and
then just as you can do any of the

and searching within that interface get
AI to have the same ability so that it

can take on a job like somebody writing
it up in a red pen well instead they

would click on the screen and they would
add a comment and the AI decides oh I

can handle that or it can say oh I need
to send that off to somebody

or it can on its own try to create these
red mark comments like do you know

that on page 2 you put a different size
washer than on page 17 you might want to

check that out so if we can standardize
and

make the formatting machine readable
throughout

then we can do both of these things. We
can get the AI to do some of the work

and we can get AI to do some of that
verification.

That's why I'm asking all of these
detailed questions.

So feel free to tell me anything else
you think is

relevant.

And if it will be possible for you to
share this document, maybe you've got

access to the team group.

That'd be super helpful.

This is fine. This is machine readable
already, right? I can just paste this

into an AI and it will be able to read
where the red marks are.

Actually, I'm a fan of...

doing things the old way, if it works.

I don't like change for the sake of
change.

Yeah, that's one of the things I do

English

spelling

Yeah, sure

Yep. So I'd be really curious after
those

changes were made, Mike Lasso mentioned
that you'll go through

three to four drafts.

So I'd be curious to see what the
different drafts look like. This is

presumably draft zero where you're
writing directly on top of the document

the italian company but then you'll have
a draft one where the same kind of

comments are being made on the code
template document as well right

um has that happened yet or is it still

in i mean i guess you haven't finished
this one right

Okay.

That'd be super helpful, thanks.

Yeah, and I think it's for me offline to
just go through these comments.

Yeah, thanks.

Nanny, is there anything else you think
I need to know?

Anything with me?

Fantastic. I appreciate it. Yeah. And
same from our side.

We're very keen to understand and help
anywhere that's possible.

I like the challenge of structuring the
process a bit differently.

So that's something for us to think
about as well.

Let's schedule another meeting. I think
we've got more ground to cover.

So let's discuss it at all hands on
Wednesday next week, and then

maybe this time next week we can talk
again when more progress has been made.

That's fantastic. Thank you so much.

Simon, you're muted.

We still can't hear you, Simon, sorry.

Okay, there.

Yeah, that worked.

Yeah.

Thank you so much. Have a good day.