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- Come on!
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There's fireworks right now.
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Welcome
to the Red Granite party.
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The emergence of real film,
real content,
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and a change
of the film industry forever.
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It was a very strange
experience
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because it was the,
sort of, equivalent
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of a big studio party.
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It was just this heaving mass
of people
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and then stars everywhere.
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Right, you know,
Leonardo DiCaprio was there.
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And then Kanye West
comes on stage.
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Get down girl
Go ahead, get down
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Get down girl, go ahead
Get down
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Jamie Foxx joins him
and they do "Gold Digger".
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Get down girl, go ahead
Get down
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And the guy next to me is like,
"That's like a million dollars
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-burnt, right there."
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Give it up for Kanye West
in the building right now.
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Red Granite forever.
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It was, kind of, bizarre
because no one actually knew
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who Red Granite were. They just,
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sort of, launched
and suddenly they were here
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at this massive party.
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People were really, sort of,
stunned, wondering,
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who are these people?
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These officials
and their associates
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conspired to misappropriate
and launder
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billions of dollars.
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In complex,
money laundering schemes,
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in a web of
opaque transactions...
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Including high-end
real estate in New York
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and Los Angeles.
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They used the money
to pay gambling debts
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in Las Vegas casinos.
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A motion picture company
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used more than
100 million dollars of that.
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They rented luxury yachts.
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A Park Laurel Condo
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in New York City
and a townhouse.
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Assets that kleptocrats
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and other corrupt officials
steal--
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Wire transfers
totaling approximately
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sixty-four million dollars.
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Funds were used to acquire
nearly 100 million dollars.
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People who defrauded
on an enormous scale.
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Schemes whose tentacles
reached around the world.
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In February 2013,
I started an investigation
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into illicit money flow
coming into the United States.
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The money was coming
into high-end real estate
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and it was coming
through shell companies
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where the owners
could be hidden.
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I decided to focus
on the Time Warner Center.
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It's an iconic building
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of a much more
global phenomenon.
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A lot of the money
the very rich have
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is invisible. You don't see
people's bank accounts.
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But real estate is very visual.
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This is really a starting point
for the story.
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This deed
for 80 Columbus Circle,
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Time Warner Center,
penthouse 76-B.
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The owner...
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80 Columbus Circle, parenthesis,
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No name of a human being.
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Sale price, 30.55 million.
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After Time Warner Center
I looked
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for shell company names
in this same format.
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Address, parenthesis, city, LLC.
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And I found some.
One Central Park West...
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Parenthesis, NYC, LLC.
And there's this one here.
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Park Laurel, parenthesis,
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The buyer
is Sorcem Investments, Inc.,
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another shell company,
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signed by sole director
of Sorcem Investments
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named Riza Aziz.
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Once I saw the name, Riza Aziz,
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I looked him up
and it was pretty easy to see
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that he was running
Red Granite Pictures.
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And that he was in the process
of producing
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-Wolf of Wall Street.
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My name is Jordan Belfort.
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The year I turned 26,
I made 49 million dollars
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which really pissed me off
because it was three shy
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of a million a week.
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The Wolf of Wall Street
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is based on Jordan Belfort.
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A very charismatic,
smart individual
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who set up a firm
and stole money.
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Nobody knows if a stock
is gonna go up,
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down, sideways, or in circles.
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Do you know what a fugazi is?
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Oh, fugazi.
It's, uh, fake.
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He wired the money
around the world
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as a part of a disguise
to hide it,
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um, and then used that money
to acquire great wealth
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and toys that come with it.
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♪ But there's nowhere to go ♪
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♪ And there's no way to slow
If I knew... ♪
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The parallels between
The Wolf of Wall Street
story
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and the Red Granite story,
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they're actually
pretty stunning.
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It really is a very strange
turn of events.
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This has an incredibly hard film
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to get finance
from the onset.
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You know, not many studios
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are chomping at the bit to do
an American epic
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with Wall Street in the title,
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let alone this, sort of,
focus on hedonism
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and debauchery and excess.
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And for that reason
I'm thankful to the people
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that we, uh,
ran into in Red Granite
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that were willing
to take a gamble
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on making a very adult
American epic
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about, you know,
the state of our culture.
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We're very excited.
Very, very excited.
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Riza Aziz was a mid-level banker
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at HSBC.
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This was not a high-level person
who would've made
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tens of millions of dollars
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that you would need
to seed these movies.
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And Joey McFarland,
his partner at Red Granite,
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was from Kentucky, had had some
random real estate deals
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in the Midwest.
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And then had worked
as a talent booker,
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but again, not someone
who was coming with...
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tens of millions of dollars
needed to seed a movie.
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I've started talking
to a number
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of different sources
in Hollywood
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about Red Granite.
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Who were these guys
who had showed up
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out of nowhere, really.
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A Hollywood source
played for me
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a secret recording
of Joey back from 2011
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talking about Red Granite.
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It showed that Joey
had a lot of self-confidence
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and believed in his ability
to get people big money,
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to do what he wanted.
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It also gave me some insight
into Riza's family.
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- Matt! Matthew!
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Congratulations, Margo.
Congratulations.
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I was there
at
The Wolf of Wall Street
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premiere after-party.
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Riza was just out
with the rest of the guests
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sitting on a banquet.
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He had a tall, beautiful,
blonde woman
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accompanying him,
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not acting like
he was the center of the action.
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Leonardo DiCaprio
was in the VIP area.
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And there was a man there
with Leonardo DiCaprio.
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I said, "Who's that fellow?",
pointing.
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And they said,
"Oh, he's a really rich man.
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He's Jho Low.
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He's provided the money
for the movies."
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And I said, um, "Oh. Well,
how did he make his money?"
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And they said,
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"We're not sure but he's the man
behind all the money."
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A very easy, quick Google search
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brought up the mysterious
big spender of New York.
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And he had been covered
a few years prior
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in
The New York Post
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for spending so much money
on the club scene.
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♪ Let me know, let me know ♪
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♪ If you want the world
We can make this work ♪
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He was very sought-after
by every club owner.
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♪ I can lead the way, baby... ♪
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If he was there,
he was making your year.
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Just one bottle
after the next, after the next.
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Like ten-thousand-dollar
bottles of champagne.
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He had an entourage.
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Everyone was trying to woo him
and be his best friend.
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I thought he was, like,
Malaysian royalty...
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whatever that means.
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You know, I didn't really know
and didn't really care,
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-to be honest.
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So, 76B is one
of the Time Warner penthouses
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that was purchased in 2011
for 30.5 million.
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Right up there,
it's in the tower on the right.
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And it's on the left side
of the tower.
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It's one of the most lavish
penthouses in the building.
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The renters of this unit
used to be Jay-Z and Beyonce.
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And we found that
during the shooting
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of
Wolf of Wall Street,
Leonardo DiCaprio stayed in 76B.
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And Joey McFarland spent
a lot of time in the complex.
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There were so many loud parties
that there were complaints.
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I had a lot of sources
in and around this building.
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And I was told
that there was a young
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Malaysian man who came
to the showing of this unit.
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And he told people
he was buying it
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for a group of investors
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including the Prime Minister
of Malaysia.
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That young man was Jho Low.
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Because of that connection,
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I knew that this
was a two-headed investigation.
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It was an investigation
of Jho Low
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and it was an investigation of
the Prime Minister of Malaysia.
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Najib became
prime minister in 2009.
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Obviously, uh, he's my brother.
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Uh, we were extremely proud,
um, of his achievement.
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Our family has been very much
at the heart of government
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in Malaysia since independence.
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Our late father became, uh,
the second prime minister
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of Malaysia.
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We were extremely proud. Uh,
of, uh, what my father achieved.
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And we wanted his legacy
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to always be remembered
correctly.
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Najib took on the mantle.
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Uh, and it was exciting
in the early days.
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- I am a gentleman.
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Najib is, uh, is a very
interesting character.
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He had very modern ideas
for Malaysia
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when he took power.
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He promoted himself
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as a moderate Muslim leader
in the world,
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as a friend to America.
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So, on that level, very modern.
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But having starting out as
a supposedly reformist figure,
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he ends up becoming
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a more and more
authoritarian leader.
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Prime minister
controls the attorney general...
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the judiciary...
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the media...
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and the election commission.
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And we have been governed
by the same political party
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since independence.
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One party
for more than 60 years.
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This is a very undemocratic
system of process.
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The prime minister and the wife
of the prime minister,
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they are very,
very funny character.
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They give an idea every day.
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But in Malaysia
there are two individual
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who cannot be drawn to cartoon.
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One is the wife
of the prime minister...
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and the second one
is the prophet Muhammad.
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That mean she is now
on same level
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of prophet Muhammad.
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Because of my cartoons,
I'm facing nine charges.
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Which, uh, carry a maximum...
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penalty for 43 years
in prison, yeah.
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When I arrived
in Malaysia,
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my luggage was lost.
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And when my luggage showed up,
it was all ruffled through.
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I was sensitive not to contact
a lot of people before I went
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because you know,
you don't know
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whose communications
are tapped and so on.
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And I went to Georgetown
in Penang.
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And I met with Malaysians
who knew Jho Low
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and his family
when he was growing up.
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I found out
that the Low Family
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is a wealthy
but not extraordinarily
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rich family, originally.
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They became much richer
through Jho's activities.
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They had their ups and downs,
he had falling-outs
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with business partners,
there was a renovation
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on their home there
that ended up in a lawsuit
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over unpaid bills.
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Larry had split off
from his company
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and, um, it was a bit
of a depressed affluence,
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and Jho really became
the Low Family's...
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hope for the future
when he went off to Harrow.
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The old schools change
little through the years.
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Old customs die hard
within their walls.
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There is still strolls
in the wind on Harrow Hill.
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I think the big sort of
transformative moment
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for Jho Low is when
his parents decided to send him
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to Harrow Boarding School
in the UK in the late '90s...
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because he suddenly went
from this, you know,
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really backwater
Malaysian island to...
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the-- the school
where Winston Churchill
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-and others had studied.
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Since the granting
of the school's charter,
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seven of Britain's
prime ministers
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have been educated here.
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Sir Winston Churchill
frequently revisited Harrow
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as one of his
most distinguished old boys.
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So, Jho Low
then suddenly, you know,
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studying alongside
the King of Jordan's son,
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the children of royalty
and Arab businessmen's kids,
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and these people were
a lot wealthier than he was.
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And I think that really
gave him an eye
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onto a different world
of wealth...
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and is probably pretty crucial
in his, sort of,
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psychological development.
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-Hooray!
- Hip, hip.
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-Hooray!
In fact...
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Jho became really good friends
with Riza in London.
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And he also got to know
Riza's mother Rosmah.
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And Rosmah was
the wife of Najib.
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Riza Aziz was the stepson
of the Prime Minister
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of Malaysia.
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And friends with them all...
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was Jho Low.
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In September 2014,
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I wanted to see if Jho and Najib
would meet up in New York.
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They were both in town
during the United Nations
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General Assembly.
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My colleague, Stephanie Saul
and I staked out
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the Time Warner Center.
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Stephanie stood outside
and would tell me
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when anyone was coming up.
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And I was upstairs
in the lobby
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-of the Mandarin Oriental.
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First, she texted me.
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I stood at the ready
at the elevator, out he came.
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He walked over
and sat in the bar.
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A little while later
she texted...
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Again I was at the ready
at the elevator.
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Najib walked around
to the entrance
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to the hotel rooms.
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It was not more than
two minutes,
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Jho stood up from the bar...
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walked over
and followed Najib
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up into the rooms.
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I asked Joe and Najib's
representatives about this,
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they confirmed, they had been
up there meeting.
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They said it was a short
social gathering,
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end of story.
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But you know, a lot
was going on right then
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in the story of 1MDB
and this money trail,
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and I do wonder what they were
talking about up there.
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When Najib Razak
took over
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as the prime minister
of Malaysia,
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he came up with this idea
to set up
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an investment fund
called 1MDB.
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The trust fund
that brings returns
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for the future of the people.
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And every cent of debt
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came from Malaysian taxpayers.
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When I found out
that 1MDB invested
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one billion US dollars
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in a company
called PetroSaudi...
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the first thing you do
is you check
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who PetroSaudi is.
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It is a fantastic name,
petroleum at a point in time
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a hundred and ten US dollars
per barrel.
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Saudi Arabia,
the king of petroleum.
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This has to
be a jackpot company.
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Then when you do a search
on PetroSaudi,
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you realize that the founder,
Tarek Obaid,
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there was no reference
of him in Google,
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any time before 2009.
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And I discovered
that he was only 32 years old.
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It was then that we found out
that when 1MBD
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actually invested
one billion in PetroSaudi,
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PetroSaudi was barely
a year old.
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So, all those...
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uh, little facts put together
rang huge alarm bells
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that there's something fishy
with this investment.
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And that's when I raised
my first question
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in March, 2010, in parliament.
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Who guarantees this loan?
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They said, "PetroSaudi
guarantees the loan."
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On a corporate guarantee.
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What is the paid-up capital?
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How much money do they have?
What is their financial reserve?
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Can you show us
the statements such that
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they can actually guarantee
a one-billion-US-dollar loan?
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Confidential.
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I had always asked
question,
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why was 1MDB,
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uh, not subject
to the same oversight
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uh, as the rest
of the government companies?
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So, uh, I then got hold
of, uh, my other brothers,
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uh, and we met Najib
and told him
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uh, that look, you know,
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um, we are very concerned,
uh, about this.
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And how that
somewhat conflicted,
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uh, with the kind of values
that our father had.
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Public service,
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uh, integrity, frugality.
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Najib said he would look
into the matter
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and that he would fix
any shortcomings at 1MDB.
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It came to my attentio
1MDB have raised bonds,
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public debt with Goldman Sachs.
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Debt that the people
of Malaysia
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would have to pay back.
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Goldman Sachs
was being paid huge amounts.
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And anyone who's making
atypically huge fees,
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you have to ask why.
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I thought, I can't wait to meet
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with this person
and we did meet.
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And I got a lot of information
about how close
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00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,640
Jho Low
was to these transactions.
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Jho Low popped up
on everything.
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And he's secretly getting
consulting fees from 1MDB.
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He's in the VIP area
at
The Wolf of Wall Street
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after-party, and he's thanked
in the credits.
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Jho and Riza passing money
between them,
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behind shell companies
and real estate.
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And so,
the very tight connection
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00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,440
between Jho Low
and the Prime Minister's family
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and the Malaysian
people's money
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00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,520
was becoming very clear.
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They were each pieces
in a puzzle
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and I put this
whole puzzle together.
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I read
the
New York Times
article.
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I was shocked, but also
extremely embarrassed.
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I didn't know Jho Low.
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I think I shook his hand
a couple of times
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00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:24,960
but I didn't know him.
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00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,040
Um, but the idea
that he was in some way linked
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00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,040
uh, to my-- to my brother,
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00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,400
uh, and potentially spending
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00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,480
uh, Malaysian taxpayers' money
really disgusted me.
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00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,720
I knew that
there were documents...
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00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:47,680
that...
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were available,
that were for sale.
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00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,600
That purported to show...
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00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:58,000
details of money moving
between 1MDB and Jho Low.
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00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,280
Leaked documents.
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00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:02,840
Those were the smoking gun.
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00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:11,480
This is a time
of journalism,
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00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,960
of different parties
working together
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00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,120
around the world
to uncover this massive,
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00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:18,920
-massive scandal.
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00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,320
The work done
by
The New York Times
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online whistle blower
Sarawak Report,
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00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,200
and of course in Malaysia,
you have the
Edge
publications
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who got into trouble
with the authorities.
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We will not apologize
because we've not done
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00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,880
anything wrong. Okay?
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00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,400
We stand by everything
we have published.
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00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,120
And I would like to add
one thing.
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None of the article
we have published
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has been challenged.
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00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:52,520
The Sarawak Report
came out with this bombshell
426
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,640
in February of 2015.
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00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,080
Seven hundred million dollars
had been taken
428
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from the fund under the guise
of being sent to a joint venture
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00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,040
with a Saudi Arabian
oil company.
430
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,840
When
Sarawak Report
first published
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00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,440
the joint venture agreement
between 1MDB and PetroSaudi,
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it was explosive.
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00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,560
That was the first time
we got a peek
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00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,600
into the hidden operations
within 1MDB
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00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,360
on how they were scamming
436
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,240
the money
from the Malaysian people.
437
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,120
It was depressing.
438
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,080
Uh, people were angry.
439
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,960
The document showed
that 700 million dollars
440
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,640
had ended up in, uh,
in an offshore company
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00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,920
allegedly controlled by Jho Low.
442
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,680
For the record,
do you have any involvement
443
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,800
or have you had
any involvement
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00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,960
with 1Malaysia Development
Berhad?
445
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,520
I believe that this is
a politically,
446
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,920
sort of, charged effort
and to try and...
447
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,960
put the blame on me when, truly,
448
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,920
I have no
decision-making authority.
449
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,240
Why would you
be a political target
450
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,600
in this unfolding scandal?
451
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,560
Um, I think it's--
it's because it may have stemmed
452
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,360
from my 16-year friendship
with Riza Aziz
453
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:21,720
who's, of course, the...
454
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,080
stepson of the Malaysian
prime minister.
455
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,280
Um, and I feel like
I'm just an easy target
456
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,040
and a victim because--
Perhaps, because of my age
457
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:34,320
and unfortunately
from the things that I've done
458
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,960
in my early years
of-- of partying that, you know,
459
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:39,720
I had a bit too much fun then.
460
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,160
The Jho Low
birthday party was a spectacle
461
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,240
in-- in every sense.
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00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,360
They had hired at least 250
463
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,640
of the most gorgeous-looking
models
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00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,400
from all over America
to be cocktail waitresses
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00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:04,960
for this party.
466
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,520
And they were all
identically dressed in-- in red.
467
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,920
They made a stunning
visual impact.
468
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,400
And all of them
were walking around
469
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,000
with-- with magnums of Cristal.
470
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,920
I remember standing
at the bar with Britney Spears
471
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,080
as she was waiting her turn to
go on to sing "Happy Birthday".
472
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,160
And then Jamie Foxx
walks on to be the MC.
473
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,520
And now you're paying attention.
474
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,440
You're saying
this is no ordinary party.
475
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,320
This was now big money.
476
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,360
I was introduced to Jho Low
477
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,960
and he was a super-rich
playboy billionaire.
478
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,040
Holding court around Jho Low
479
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,800
were security people.
480
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,680
It-- it's like a wedding cake
if you can imagine.
481
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,280
Mr. Malaysian money bags
was at the very top
482
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,240
and then there were these tiers
that came down
483
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,880
and you were either in tier one
or tier two or tier three.
484
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:09,360
Paris Hilton who was ushered
right into the intimate circle.
485
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,400
There was this huge
turnout of celebrities.
486
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,560
Including DiCaprio.
The list is endless.
487
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,840
You could run
a movie credit scroll
488
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,080
on the screen of all the people
that were there.
489
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,160
This was the, uh, entrance
to the party.
490
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,760
I went back to look at it
the next day,
491
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,920
and it was like
it never ever happened.
492
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:46,280
It had gone.
493
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,600
It didn't exist
three days beforehand.
494
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,800
It didn't exist 24 hours
afterwards.
495
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,400
I mean,
it was a proper circus tent...
496
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,400
with a giant Ferris wheel
inside.
497
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,840
I don't think I would be wrong
if I described it
498
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,960
as the best
and the most expensive party
499
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,880
that Las Vegas has ever seen.
500
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,880
To do what they did,
a Ferris wheel,
501
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,400
amusement games, an arcade,
security...
502
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,400
the food, the drinks,
the gifts...
503
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,320
the stars, the celebrities...
504
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,000
that must've cost
a hundred million dollars.
505
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,600
In the end none of it
had really made sense
506
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,280
if somebody is spending
that kind of money...
507
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:46,960
uh, that freely.
508
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,880
It cannot have come
from legitimate sources.
509
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,040
How do we define value?
510
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,800
We interviewed Jho Low
in the
Journal
in 2014.
511
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,280
And we wrote a story
about him as an investor.
512
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,880
It is about how each deal
changes a community,
513
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,720
a country, and the world.
514
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,560
There's this video
that Jho Low creates
515
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,280
as an attempt to portray himself
as a--
516
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,240
as a jet-setting
corporate titan.
517
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,160
Our approach
is to fundamentally question
518
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,320
how quality is created.
519
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,760
How to enhance value,
identify synergies...
520
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:31,600
capitalize...
521
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,480
And the back story
that he gave people
522
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,440
was that his family
had a lot of money.
523
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,400
And he was investing money
on behalf of his grandfather
524
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:39,840
and his father who had made,
you know,
525
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,440
billions in iron ore mining
in Thailand.
526
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,440
But as soon as people
put real resources
527
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,480
into trying to find out
about his grandfather...
528
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,720
you only need to trust
a few people in Malaysia
529
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,960
and you realize
he didn't have billions.
530
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,280
At least not--
He didn't inherit billions.
531
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,040
Then started to donate a lot
of money to cancer centers,
532
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,600
to the United Nations...
533
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,280
and I think that, again,
was an attempt to make it appear
534
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,240
that he was this real
businessman.
535
00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:10,720
So, the questions about
where his money came from
536
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,080
he hoped would go away.
537
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,720
But we kept digging
and in summer of 2015
538
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,040
came out
with this much bigger story.
539
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,960
The Wall Street
Journal
came into possession
540
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,680
of secret documents
that revealed
541
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,320
a very large payment
of about 681 million dollars
542
00:34:30,720 --> 00:34:32,920
paid into the--
the personal bank account
543
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,920
of the Prime Minister
of Malaysia.
544
00:34:35,720 --> 00:34:37,360
And that was a-- a big fact.
545
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,320
And it was a mystery
that needed to be solved.
546
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,400
And then we came
into possession
547
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,440
of these factory messenger
transcripts between Jho Low
548
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,640
and one of the mid-level bankers
that oversaw
549
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:52,840
the Prime Minister's accounts.
550
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,120
One of these descriptions
refers to...
551
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,520
"681 American pies"
about to come
552
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,080
into the Prime Minister's
bank account.
553
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,400
The bank records show
681 million American dollars
554
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:09,560
are transferred in.
555
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,080
In this case,
the "American pie" means
556
00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:14,800
one million dollars.
So, that was the code word.
557
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:16,880
Until that point
we hadn't really connected
558
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,080
Jho Low to the transfer
of the Prime Minister.
559
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,440
It showed that he was there
stage-managing these discussions
560
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:25,760
and setting things up.
561
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,800
And it has really proved
his instrumental role
562
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:29,880
in the case.
563
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:41,960
He's asking bankers
at AmBank,
564
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,600
the--a bank that he used
and the prime minister used
565
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,600
to do things
so compliance cannot see.
566
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,000
And he's asking, you know,
567
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,000
"Please move this money here,
that money there."
568
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,480
He'd just tell them
Najib wants this.
569
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,720
And he's very impatient,
he's very distracted.
570
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:11,920
I'd say from reading
the Blackberry messages
571
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,040
the general impression
I get is that Jho Low
572
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,120
uh, is cutting a lot of corners.
573
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:22,920
I was very excited.
574
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,240
Because, you know,
being a journalist for 20 years,
575
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,440
it's not everyday that
you get, um, a story
576
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,640
about a sitting prime minister
receiving stolen funds.
577
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,120
We wanted to make sure
that we upheld
578
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:35,760
very high standards
in reporting it.
579
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,200
And we're obviously
getting pushed back
580
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:38,600
from the Prime Minister's office
581
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,480
saying, well, you know,
this is not true.
582
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,480
So, it's very nervous
to make sure that we were...
583
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,240
reporting it...
584
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:46,920
you know, everything
was a hundred percent correct.
585
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,320
You can't mistakes on--
on these kinds of stories.
586
00:36:52,720 --> 00:36:55,800
And I happen
to be on holiday, uh, in LA,
587
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,600
and over breakfast I picked up
the
Wall Street Journal.
588
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,160
Uh, and I was stunned.
589
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,840
Well, a shocking
development and allegations
590
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,960
for the first time
directly linking
591
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,520
the Prime Minister
to the 1MDB scandal.
592
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,560
Six hundred and eighty-one
million US dollars.
593
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,960
Yeah. I was--
I-- I fell off my chair,
594
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:16,320
uh, to be honest.
595
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,400
This was now becoming
an international story.
596
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,040
That was a magnitude
of what was happening.
597
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,760
Prime Minister, you look happy.
598
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,760
Can I ask you, sir,
why you haven't resigned
599
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,880
over personal involvement
in the corruption scandal
600
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,600
of global proportion, sir?
601
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,600
Are you going to resign,
Prime Minister?
602
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,480
The 681 million dollars
that Najib allegedly received
603
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:44,680
into his accounts
604
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,520
came two months
before a really important
605
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,920
-general election in 2013.
606
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:58,680
It certainly looked like 1MDB
had been a political slush fund,
607
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,440
in a way
that he could spend money
608
00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:01,960
and get reelected.
609
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:07,240
I remember what happened
610
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:08,720
during the '13 general election
611
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,240
and we were wondering
where all this money
612
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:11,240
was coming from
613
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:16,240
that was being poured into,
uh, various constituencies.
614
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,880
There was money being, uh,
given away.
615
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,120
Uh, there's vote buying in--
in many respects.
616
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:33,800
1MDB is people's money,
which is why it's very irksome
617
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,360
that they would use
the people's money
618
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,600
to ensure their own victory.
619
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,400
It's very, very hard
to describe.
620
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,120
Uh, Najib is my brother.
He will always be my brother.
621
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:51,360
And I love him as my brother.
622
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,520
We are close-knit family,
but it seemed to me that...
623
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,560
his promise that he would look
into it, uh, and make sure
624
00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:04,440
there was no impropriety, uh,
at 1MDB
625
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,560
uh, was not happening.
626
00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:10,920
What I then decided to do
was to campaign,
627
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,480
uh, to get various
influential people
628
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:19,320
uh, to also, um, look into.
uh, 1MDB.
629
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,680
I went to see politicians
on both sides
630
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,520
and really urged everyone
to make sure
631
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,880
that
this is properly investigated,
632
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,720
uh, and the rule of law applies.
633
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,800
In the summer of 2015
the central bank,
634
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,520
the attorney general,
635
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,880
the anti-corruption commission
were trying to investigate 1MDB
636
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,040
and find out
what had been going on.
637
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:45,800
As police raided
the offices
638
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,480
of Malaysian state investment
fund 1MDB on Wednesday,
639
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,680
members of the prime
minister's political party
640
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,040
appeared to be closing ranks
behind him.
641
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,480
The Wall Street Journal's
alleging investigators
642
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,320
have found fund transfers
almost 700 million dollars
643
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,120
to Najib Razak's
own bank account.
644
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,160
- What we believed happened
645
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,000
is that the attorney general
646
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,320
was preparing a draft
arrest warrant for Najib.
647
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,720
And, um, as the document
was being prepared
648
00:40:14,240 --> 00:40:15,680
the prime minister
decided to remove
649
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,000
the attorney general
who was investigating 1MDB.
650
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,440
Suddenly, there was a clampdown
651
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,040
on, uh, 1MDB investigations.
652
00:40:29,240 --> 00:40:32,840
The Edge
editor
was held overnight.
653
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,760
Uh,
The Edge
was suspended for,
uh, I think a few weeks.
654
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,160
Um, and at that time, um,
655
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,760
I began to also fear
for my safety.
656
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,720
Protests on the streets
of Kuala Lumpur
657
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,640
go into a second day.
658
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,360
These protesters
are directing their anger
659
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,520
at one man,
Prime Minister Najib Razak.
660
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,120
You cannot allow
a prime minister
661
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:15,360
and his cabinet to continue
to plunder a country
662
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,640
just because they want
to live in luxury.
663
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,440
This scandal
will affect our basic services.
664
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,640
Cutbacks in the health services,
Cutbacks in education.
665
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,120
Cutback in terms of the quality
of our transport.
666
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,240
The cutback is a result
of the corruption.
667
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:41,480
You know, these people
668
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,120
who are supposed
to be our leaders
669
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:44,960
just do not care.
670
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,880
Whereas, the rest
of the population
671
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,640
are more concerned
with whether they can actually
672
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,200
put food on their table.
673
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,760
We urge all Malaysians
674
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,600
to demand for Najib
to step down.
675
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:04,440
And the institutional reforms
to be implemented to end
676
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,600
all the corruptions that
is happening in this country.
677
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,360
The prime minister
must tender his resignation.
678
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,560
Well, there is a report
that production company
679
00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:09,080
Red Granite has been accused
of using 100 million dollars
680
00:44:09,240 --> 00:44:12,440
that had been diverted
from the 1MDB fund
681
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,880
to finance
The Wolf of Wall Street.
682
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,960
I think even
before anyone knew anything
683
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,280
about the connections
to Malaysia
684
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,000
before any of the dots really
had been joined between 1MDB,
685
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,520
people were wondering where
the hell they got that money.
686
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,560
Yes, this is Alex
from
The Hollywood Reporter.
687
00:44:35,720 --> 00:44:36,720
How are you doing?
688
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,200
So yes, well, I wanted to speak
to you about, um,
689
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:41,960
about the company Red Granite...
690
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:43,840
Well, I had been trying to speak
to anyone
691
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,280
involved in Red Granite.
692
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:46,600
We wrote a story
about Red Granite
693
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,240
that was published,
um, yesterday.
694
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,960
Obviously these-- there's, um,
a growing investigation
695
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:52,240
into the company.
696
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,520
Former employees,
anyone that's dealt with them
697
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,000
from other films.
698
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,880
And they all have a lot
of things to say
699
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,600
and they're all absolutely
fascinating,
700
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,120
but I can't say any of them
701
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:05,840
because no one
will go on record.
702
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,600
The amounts of money that
are being talked about are vast.
703
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,600
Two hundred and thirty,
two hundred and forty million
704
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:11,760
ended up
with Red Granite.
705
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,960
Hollywood is actually
quite a small place
706
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:16,600
I mean, everyone knows everyone.
707
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,040
You know, you don't want
to really be the whistle blower,
708
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,000
you don't want your name
out there as the person
709
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:22,480
that talks about stuff.
710
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:24,920
DiCaprio,
from what we understand
711
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:26,560
hasn't said anything.
712
00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:28,920
Obviously, he earned potentially
upwards of 25 million
713
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,160
from--
from
The Wolf of Wall Street.
714
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,000
You know, if you want
to continue to function
715
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,720
in the industry, probably best
to-- to keep your mouth shut.
716
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,320
I mean,
did you have any direct dealings
717
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:39,720
with Riza and Jho Low?
718
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,160
Can we go on the record
with that?
719
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,400
But Leonardo DiCaprio
and Martin Scorsese
720
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,960
are the biggest filmmakers
on the planet.
721
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,240
They make award-winning,
Oscar-winning films.
722
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:01,920
People love them.
723
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,720
How long before they say,
"We didn't know."?
724
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,360
Or, "Oh, God, this is terrible.
725
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,200
We should never
have done this."
726
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,600
They're going to have to say
something at some point,
727
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:13,800
like public figures.
728
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,880
So, we're gonna get
the opposition figures
729
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,840
of Malaysia,
and get their reaction.
730
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,320
Hello there.
731
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,000
Thank you so much
for talking to us.
732
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:42,560
Um, this is Patrick
from
The Hollywood Reporter.
733
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,440
-Can you hear me?
- Yup, I can.
734
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:46,560
Yes, okay.
735
00:46:47,720 --> 00:46:49,840
So, we're at
the Cannes Film Festival here.
736
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,160
-And--
737
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,840
You should come next year.
738
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,080
Oh, okay. I imagine
you're very busy.
739
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,040
Um-- No?
740
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:06,880
Oh, I see.
741
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,480
Wow. What is the backstory
to that?
742
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:22,400
Wow.
743
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:25,960
So, um...
744
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,600
Wolf of Wall Street,
um,
for the people in Malaysia
745
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:32,960
who have seen the film,
746
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,400
do you think they have
a bitter feeling about it?
747
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,120
Well, good morning all.
748
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,520
Good morning, and thank you all
for being here.
749
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,240
And we are here to announce
a significant step
750
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,760
in our ongoing work
to combat global corruption.
751
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,880
And today,
the department of justice
752
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,640
has filed a civil complaint.
753
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,040
And our complaint alleges
754
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,520
that from 2009 through 2015,
755
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,480
these officials
and their associates conspired
756
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,920
to misappropriate
and launder billions of dollars
757
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:51,400
from 1MDB.
758
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,920
The co-conspirators laundered
their stolen funds
759
00:48:55,240 --> 00:48:58,120
through a complex web
of opaque transactions
760
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,400
and fraudulent shell companies
with bank accounts in countries
761
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,240
around the world.
762
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,960
1MDB was created
by the Malaysian government
763
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,200
to promote
economic development
764
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,080
with the ultimate goal
of improving
765
00:49:10,240 --> 00:49:12,760
the well-being
of the Malaysian people.
766
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,760
But, unfortunately, sadly,
tragically,
767
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,600
a number of corrupt
1MDB officials
768
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,880
treated this public trust
as a personal bank account.
769
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:30,640
No, no, no. Hang on first.
770
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,720
Uh, we have to...
771
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,360
um, establish...
772
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,760
uh, the facts for this, yeah?
And this is a civil action.
773
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,200
This is not a criminal action.
774
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,760
But, uh, I want, uh, to see it,
categorically,
775
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:51,040
uh, that, uh, we are serious
about good governance.
776
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:52,880
- All right. Thank you.
-Thank you.
777
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,840
...Najib Razak
said the government
778
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,520
will give its full cooperation
779
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,080
to international parties
investigating issues
780
00:49:59,240 --> 00:50:00,680
surrounding 1MDB.
781
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,640
The Wolf of Wall Street
earned just shy
782
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,360
of 400 million dollars
internationally.
783
00:50:11,720 --> 00:50:14,120
But the idea of a film
of that magnitude
784
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:18,640
being seized, and then owned
by the US government,
785
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,000
was not anything
I've ever heard of before.
786
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,840
The Hollywood angle,
it's because it was such
787
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,920
a growing story,
and it was all unraveling,
788
00:50:29,240 --> 00:50:32,480
it was something that requires
a little bit more investigating.
789
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,880
So last night, um,
I was given a new update.
790
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,200
Jho Low, the man
at the center of this--
791
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,160
of the whole, uh,
1MDB scandal,
792
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,520
Jho Low bought
a 31-million dollar penthouse,
793
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,720
uh, in the Time Warner building
in New York.
794
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,400
The real estate agent
representing the seller...
795
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,200
was Robert De Niro's son.
796
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,640
-No way.
-Raphael De Niro.
797
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,280
And Robert De Niro met
798
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,680
with the Malaysian
prime minister and his wife
799
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:09,840
in 2000-- and, uh, 2009
and 2010, I believe.
800
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,080
And they're--
At first in New York
801
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,920
and, um, and then he went
over to Malaysia...
802
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,960
and had lunch
with Rosmah Mansor,
803
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:19,520
the prime minister's wife.
804
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:21,360
We should check that out.
805
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,040
- Hello?
806
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:28,600
-Hey. Mr. DeNiro...
807
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,240
...very nice to speak to you.
808
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,040
I wanted to talk to you
about this, um,
809
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,640
you know, this Malaysian
corruption scandal.
810
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:55,840
Riza. Yeah.
811
00:51:58,640 --> 00:51:59,600
Okay.
812
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:06,520
Okay. Where was that?
813
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:13,560
Okay.
814
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:50,520
I'm sorry.
815
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:52,840
I'm sorry. I'm really sorry.
816
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,760
I didn't actually meant
to annoy you, I'm--
817
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,400
One thing
that I found fascinating
818
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,880
is that when I speak
to the biggest names
819
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,240
in Hollywood,
820
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,480
I just don't think
people are aware.
821
00:53:15,240 --> 00:53:16,680
Then no one actually
then they go,
822
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,600
"Oh, God, yeah, we heard
about that scandal maybe."
823
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,720
But then they don't turn
and look at
824
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,000
its actual effects
in the country
825
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:24,240
that it's hurt the most.
826
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,640
The story,
it opened my eyes,
827
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,400
as it goes international
and so embarrassing.
828
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:44,600
It also hit me hard.
829
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:46,880
Small country like Malaysia
830
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,240
now known
because of global corruption.
831
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,760
It drive my eagerness to know
and explore more
832
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,320
about Malaysia's
political landscape.
833
00:54:25,240 --> 00:54:26,240
Yeah.
834
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,920
All of the questions of 1MDB
835
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,920
have been left
unanswered until now.
836
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,360
I don't understand
why the prime minister acts
837
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:40,840
as if nothing happened.
838
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,840
I started a magazine
called
Gedung Kartun.
839
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,720
It is hundred percent political,
uh, cartoon,
840
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:09,400
where we talk about issues
like, uh, corruption.
841
00:55:09,720 --> 00:55:12,960
But the government banned
the magazine immediately.
842
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,400
Then the eight officers
came to my office
843
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,640
confiscated that
more than 500 copies
844
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,440
of the magazine,
and banned the magazine.
845
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,600
During the interrogation,
I told them...
846
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,160
"Look, you can ban my books,
you can ban my cartoon,
847
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:31,680
but you cannot ban my mind.
848
00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:35,280
I will keep drawing
until the last drop of my ink."
849
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,400
But after the 1MDB scandal
in Malaysia,
850
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,080
I'm not sure whether
I'm the one who going to
851
00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:47,400
end up in prison...
852
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,840
or the prime minister
and the wife.
853
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,240
I'm lucky to have her, actually.
854
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,320
She's very cartoonable.
855
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:05,760
She carry a lot of handbags
and also ring, and shoes.
856
00:56:06,240 --> 00:56:08,800
People call her
Imelda Marcos of Malaysia,
857
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,600
or Imelda Rosmah.
Uh, you know, she like to shop.
858
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,200
Najib had a credit card,
859
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:20,440
and he'd spent 130,000 dollars
in a Chanel store in Honolulu.
860
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,000
And we knew
from the documents we had
861
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,440
that this credit card
was being funded,
862
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,640
um, by 1MDB money.
863
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,040
When they were in the Chanel
and trying to make a purchase,
864
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,320
there was some problem
with the credit card...
865
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,320
and Najib communicated
with Jho to let him know that,
866
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:40,960
via Blackberry messages.
867
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,760
Because Jho was running
Najib's accounts.
868
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,160
But what has triggered
this new wave of interest
869
00:56:52,720 --> 00:56:55,400
for the ordinary Malaysians,
especially in the villages...
870
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,560
is the fact that the money
from 1MDB...
871
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,280
Twenty-seven million dollars
of it
872
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,240
was actually used
to buy a diamond necklace
873
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,600
-for the prime minister's wife.
874
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,600
With 1MDB money,
he bought a diamond,
875
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,400
twenty-two carat.
Twenty-seven million US dollars
876
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,560
for the wife
of the prime minister.
877
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,920
You know,
it's 120 million ringgit
878
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:38,240
for the diamond.
879
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:44,280
And, uh, average teacher
gets paid 3,000 ringgit a month.
880
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,640
And that's, uh,
twelve months a year.
881
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,840
That's 3,333 teachers
you can finance
882
00:57:56,000 --> 00:58:00,000
with that one diamond
for an entire year.
883
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,520
That's a lot of teachers.
884
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:08,800
That has aroused the degree
of, um, anger.
885
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,360
Uh, Malaysians are,
by and large,
886
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:16,960
desensitized to corruption,
um, but the scale of it,
887
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,280
I think, is waking people up.
888
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,120
The Malaysian people
were defrauded
889
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,120
on an enormous scale.
890
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,480
This is the largest
autocracy seizure
891
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,280
in US history.
892
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:28,720
That was alleged
in the complaint,
893
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:30,920
funds were stolen
under the pretense
894
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:32,600
of having 1MDB
895
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,600
invested in oil exploration
joint venture
896
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:37,320
with a foreign partner.
897
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,480
But this wasn't a legitimate
investment, for 1MDB
898
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:43,200
or for the Malaysian people.
899
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,840
Instead, the funds transferred
to the Shell companies
900
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,080
were used
for the personal enrichment
901
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,920
of the corrupt officials
and their associates.
902
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:54,200
Obviously...
903
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:34,880
This is fuckin' nuts.
904
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:39,640
They used the money
to pay gambling debts
905
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,160
at Las Vegas casinos.
906
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,360
They rented luxury yachts.
907
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:50,200
Among the purchases
was a bombardier jet
908
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,160
with a purchase price
of about 35 million dollars.
909
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,680
The US Justice Department
is looking to seize
910
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:02,680
540 million US dollars
in assets
911
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:06,280
bought with money stolen
from Malaysian state fund, 1MDB.
912
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:08,640
Among the assets, uh, jewelry,
913
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,600
worth millions of dollars,
gifted to model Miranda Kerr.
914
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,360
And artworks
by Picasso and Basquiat,
915
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:16,840
gifts to actor,
Leonardo DiCaprio.
916
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,560
Jho Low has allegedly embezzled
hundreds of millions of dollars
917
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,800
from 1MDB to support
a luxurious lifestyle,
918
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:25,840
and buy such extravagant gifts.
919
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:28,680
A spokesperson for DiCaprio
said,
920
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,040
"He will support all efforts
to assure that justice is done."
921
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:35,720
They spent
millions on properties,
922
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,280
some of which are subject
to seizure and forfeiture,
923
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,640
based on the complaint
filed today.
924
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:52,240
Arriving at
1423 Oriole Drive on the left.
925
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:56,920
Here we go.
926
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,880
This is the mansion
that Jho Low
927
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,040
bought for himself
as a little treat
928
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:06,280
in, uh, 2012
for about 39 million dollars.
929
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:08,560
It's mentioned in, uh,
justice department rulings
930
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:10,560
as, uh, one of the mansions
that he, uh,
931
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,040
that he bought with allegedly
stolen Malaysian money.
932
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,680
Um, it's quite
a vast palace of a house.
933
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:19,960
Just around the corner
from his good friend,
934
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:21,360
Leonardo DiCaprio.
935
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:25,600
Did he ever actually live in it?
I mean, was it ever--
936
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:27,240
He never--
he moved furniture into it,
937
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:28,720
there's furniture
in there now.
938
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:30,120
- Really?
- But no, he had a big
939
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:31,600
Oscar party
when he first bought it
940
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:33,080
because some of the neighbors
went,
941
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:34,760
-and told me they were up there.
- Right.
942
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:36,400
Looked around,
thought it was great.
943
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:37,680
- Yeah.
-Yeah.
944
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:39,120
They got to rub elbows
with Leo,
945
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:40,320
-and his other neighbors. And--
946
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:42,000
You haven't never seen him,
have you?
947
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,160
No. Nobody's seen him
in two years, apparently.
948
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,280
-Yeah.
949
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:47,920
That's--
why, you looking for him?
950
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:49,520
-Yeah, yeah. Well--
-Yeah. You should.
951
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:51,720
Go ask Leo. I'm sure he knows.
952
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:53,560
He's probably hiding
in Leo's basement.
953
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:00,440
It's a bit cobwebby as well.
954
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:01,800
Nothing living there
for a while.
955
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:04,040
Looks a bit quiet.
956
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:08,360
There's no one in.
957
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:25,360
We don't have full
visibility on what
958
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:26,800
Jho Low's doing right now.
959
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,560
And he's certainly, sort of,
gone under the radar.
960
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:36,680
We have the number
of this guy, right,
961
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:40,000
who probably was there,
so I'm gonna--
962
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,000
I'm gonna call him.
I'm just trying to, like,
963
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,120
work out when to do it
because I don't wanna--
964
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:46,960
I mean he could--
you know what I mean?
965
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,480
There's a certain amount of risk
associated with it, right?
966
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,480
I'm just gonna try to find,
um, equanimity.
967
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,800
The boat is believed
to be owned by Jho Low
968
01:03:59,960 --> 01:04:01,280
through an offshore company.
969
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:04,840
Now we know that this boat
was over at the marina,
970
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:05,960
but it's left.
971
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:12,800
You-- where is Jho Low?
972
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,240
I don't know where Jho Low is.
Do you know where Jho Low is?
973
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:19,840
Well, do you have any
information about where he is?
974
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:29,520
Uh-huh. Why is that?
975
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,000
Right. So, you think
the government of Malaysia
976
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:44,600
is hiding Jho Low?
977
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:52,240
No. I understand.
978
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:00,920
The local guys told us
that the Equanimity,
979
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:02,480
Jho Low's boat, is out there.
980
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:04,240
If you look over there,
I guess that's Yama Point
981
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:08,400
and it's, uh, a kilometer or two
off of that, uh, out at sea.
982
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:10,440
So you can't see it so easily
from the mainland
983
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,560
and I guess the headland here
is all forested,
984
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,200
so it's pretty secluded spot
they've got out there.
985
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:17,600
So, we think it's sort of...
986
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:19,600
trying to sort of hide
in plain sight,
987
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:21,400
so that no one
really knows what's going on.
988
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:25,720
Uh, a bunch of skiffs
have been going out
989
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:27,880
and, uh, a captain came
from the boat,
990
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:29,200
uh, yesterday,
991
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,160
and they've been taking
provisions out there.
992
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:34,600
I'm no yacht expert,
993
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:36,240
but it's certainly
a super yacht,
994
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:38,680
and it has a launch pad
for a helicopter, multi decks,
995
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:40,560
I think it's, like, 180 feet.
996
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:42,720
And I think it has a crew
of 30 people,
997
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:45,200
so it's definitely a yacht
you would notice.
998
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:55,240
Yeah. We saw the boat
off of the pier
999
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:56,760
east of Phuket.
1000
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:01,360
It was anchored offshore,
and then, all of a sudden,
1001
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,320
around 10:00 pm
in the evening,
1002
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,360
starts setting off to the south
at a rate of knots
1003
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:08,440
and takes off
into the open sea.
1004
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:15,560
This is, uh, marine tracking,
1005
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,760
you see all the boats, uh,
moving around in real time,
1006
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,200
and, uh, it looks like
the boat's gone...
1007
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,800
around the southern tip
of Phuket, and...
1008
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:27,840
was doing 12 knots which is,
you know,
1009
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:29,240
fairly fast speed.
1010
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,440
And then, here,
it's, uh, stopped,
1011
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:34,080
and that's 21 hours ago.
1012
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:37,280
So, I imagine they've turned off
their identification.
1013
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:39,760
-Uh, it's gone.
1014
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:50,960
We, as the young
generation,
1015
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,400
have to do something,
rise up.
1016
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:27,840
Mm-hmm.
1017
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:59,160
I saw the violence
with my own eyes.
1018
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,200
So, I know the risk.
1019
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,280
Two days before the rally...
1020
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:17,760
I feel insecure.
1021
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:25,800
I realize that someone
keep following me.
1022
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:35,920
When I organizing
student meeting,
1023
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:40,000
they keep, uh,
company at the back.
1024
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:46,080
I hope that I will be safe
until the rally.
1025
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:33,880
Thank you.
1026
01:09:50,480 --> 01:09:52,440
We don't have a specific
comment on anyone
1027
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:53,880
who hasn't been named so far.
1028
01:09:54,440 --> 01:09:57,560
We are essentially describing
the tracing of the assets,
1029
01:09:57,720 --> 01:09:59,080
the use of the funds,
1030
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:01,440
and who was involved
in the transactions.
1031
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:18,080
Our agreement is only to draft
the complaint
1032
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:20,640
as we always do
in civil forfeiture matters.
1033
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:22,720
You'll see that this
is a complaint that is against
1034
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:24,680
the actual property or assets.
1035
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:02,920
In October of 2015,
my LA field office
1036
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:06,160
joined the investigation,
specifically focusing
1037
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:07,840
on Riza Aziz.
1038
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:09,960
And Red Granite Pictures.
1039
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:12,000
The real question is this,
1040
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:13,960
was all this legal?
1041
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:16,280
Absolutely fucking not.
1042
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,760
Approximately 238 million
was wired
1043
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,880
to Red Granite capital
in Singapore,
1044
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:26,440
an entity controlled by Aziz.
1045
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:28,280
This money was then used
to fund
1046
01:11:28,440 --> 01:11:30,760
Red Granite Pictures operations,
1047
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,480
including the production
of the film
1048
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:34,920
The Wolf of Wall Street.
1049
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,920
If it's proven
that in fact the money
1050
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:42,720
was embezzled
from the government of Malaysia,
1051
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:44,320
transferred around the world,
1052
01:11:44,480 --> 01:11:47,600
and ultimately went
into the funding of a movie
1053
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,360
about the story of a man,
who stole money
1054
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:51,960
and moved it
around the world,
1055
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:53,640
that's the ultimate irony.
1056
01:11:56,840 --> 01:12:00,440
The parallels between
Jho Low and Jordan Belfort
1057
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:02,600
in
The Wolf of Wall Street
are amazing.
1058
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:04,320
In the early days,
very disciplined,
1059
01:12:04,480 --> 01:12:07,280
very creative, very charismatic,
1060
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:11,120
but, unfortunately,
I think the-- the intoxication
1061
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:13,080
of power and wealth,
1062
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:16,240
it led him
on a very deadly path.
1063
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:26,360
When these guys tend to get
the money that they get,
1064
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:28,760
they forget the definition
of the word excess.
1065
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:30,800
I know
we're a little unorthodox,
1066
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:32,720
we're a little loud
in the way we do things.
1067
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:34,840
But you gotta understand,
we're the new guys on the block,
1068
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:37,240
you know, trying to make
a name for ourselves, but...
1069
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:39,600
I want you to understand,
we don't...
1070
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:42,080
do anything illegal.
1071
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:43,760
Money bought him power,
1072
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:44,760
bought him access.
1073
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:48,920
It bought him recognition,
it bought him status.
1074
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:53,360
It bought him anything that
crazy sums of money can buy.
1075
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:56,160
From Saudi Arabia
to Malaysia,
1076
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:57,760
to the heart...
1077
01:12:57,920 --> 01:12:59,160
To me,
this is absolutely
1078
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:00,560
a cautionary tale,
1079
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:02,560
and if you're gonna
submerge yourself
1080
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:05,520
in the attitude of people
that had been very destructive
1081
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:08,640
or a con, I mean, we've got
to understand what entices them,
1082
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:10,840
and we've got to be honest
and authentic about
1083
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:12,680
the portrayal of who
these people are.
1084
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:15,040
I think whenever
1085
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:16,360
you're dealing
with a young person,
1086
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:19,080
who-- who's--
who's put in a position
1087
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:20,520
to make an enormous
amount of money,
1088
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:22,720
and doesn't have the discipline
to control it,
1089
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:24,400
there's a little bit, you--
you know,
1090
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:25,800
of empathy
that you feel for them,
1091
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:27,680
but at the end of the day,
you know...
1092
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:30,000
we're all--
we all have to, uh--
1093
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:32,960
we all have to pay
for the actions we do,
1094
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,400
and that's, kind of,
how our story ends.
1095
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:37,080
And you know what I was
just thinking, too?
1096
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:39,840
The fucking hero that I'm gonna
be back at the office.
1097
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:42,440
When the Bureau seizes
this fucking boat,
1098
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:44,240
because, I mean,
fuckety-fuck-fuck,
1099
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:46,000
-Jordan, look at this thing.
1100
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:06,240
We will not allow
the massive, brazen,
1101
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:10,640
and blatant diversion
of billions of dollars
1102
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:12,640
from 1MDB,
1103
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:15,320
and the alleged laundering
of those funds
1104
01:14:15,480 --> 01:14:17,960
through US financial
institutions
1105
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:19,440
to continue.
1106
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:27,480
Indonesian police
and the US Federal
1107
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:29,760
Bureau of Investigation or FBI
1108
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:32,520
inspected a luxury yacht
on Thursday
1109
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:33,800
on the island of Bali.
1110
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:06,320
There categorically
would have not been
1111
01:15:06,480 --> 01:15:08,560
a 1MDB scandal
without Jho Low.
1112
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:13,160
He is behind the scenes,
running the fund.
1113
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:17,880
But what exactly did Najib know
about it?
1114
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,320
It's unclear and more
reporting needs to be done
1115
01:15:22,480 --> 01:15:25,040
about exactly what did he know
about billions
1116
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:27,680
that-- that-- that investigators
are looking into.
1117
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:42,040
Nearly 15 million
Malaysians will vote
1118
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:44,080
in general elections
that will determine
1119
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:45,840
if the National Front Coalition
1120
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:48,600
can extend its 60-year grip
on power.
1121
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:51,600
They will choose between
Prime Minister Najib Razak...
1122
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:56,640
or the opposition led
by 92-year old former leader,
1123
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:57,720
Mahathir Mohamad.
1124
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:03,120
Anger over the 1MDB fiasco
led to the return of Mahathir.
1125
01:16:05,440 --> 01:16:07,320
He has galvanized
a fractured opposition
1126
01:16:07,480 --> 01:16:09,920
to out what he calls
a government of thieves.
1127
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:12,520
But the odds are stacked
against them.
1128
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:31,200
Well, against the odds,
1129
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:33,640
Malaysia's former ruler
Mahathir Mohamad
1130
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:36,120
is once again
set to take control.
1131
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:40,120
He's lead
an opposition coalition
1132
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:41,560
to a shock victory.
1133
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:43,960
Disbelief and euphoria
1134
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:46,520
as long suffering supporters
of Malaysia's opposition
1135
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:49,760
finally realized what seemed
a near impossible dream.
1136
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:01,280
I accept
the verdict of the people.
1137
01:17:01,440 --> 01:17:04,320
Well, that's it. Six decades
of one party rule is over.
1138
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:09,480
We feel as if we're breathing
new air today.
1139
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:10,880
How do you feel now?
1140
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:13,160
No. I feel very,
very happy, you see.
1141
01:17:13,440 --> 01:17:16,120
It's-- the feeling
is just awesome.
1142
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:21,080
For Malaysia, uh,
I was very happy.
1143
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,840
Um,
because it was gonna happen--
1144
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:25,400
it was gonna happen peacefully,
1145
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:28,800
uh, and I was very proud,
uh, of my country.
1146
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:31,600
But at the same time...
1147
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:35,720
I've been through
a very eclectic set of emotions.
1148
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:37,480
It's very, very hard
to describe.
1149
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:39,920
The Malaysian government
has slapped a travel ban
1150
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:42,080
on ousted Prime Minster
Najib Razak,
1151
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:43,920
just as he was about to leave
the country
1152
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:45,080
on a private jet.
1153
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:47,320
Dr. Mahathir
is bound to go after
1154
01:17:47,480 --> 01:17:51,000
the billions of dollars
allegedly stolen in the 1MDB
1155
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:52,080
corruption scandal.
1156
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:56,800
I am not sure
whether I'm the one
1157
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:58,960
who going to end up in prison...
1158
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:02,280
or the prime minister
and the wife.
1159
01:18:11,440 --> 01:18:13,040
I was in a board meeting,
1160
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:15,480
uh, when my phone
kept ringing
1161
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:17,880
because my brother
was being arrested.
1162
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:21,960
You can...
1163
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:26,120
never prepare...
1164
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,680
for the sins of...
1165
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:33,400
your brother being charged.
1166
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:40,240
It was painful to watch.
1167
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:46,600
Uh, I felt very sad.
Uh, I felt very sad for him.
1168
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:50,000
Uh, I felt especially sad
for my mother.
1169
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:57,440
Police officers conducted
1170
01:18:57,600 --> 01:18:59,720
a three-hour raid
on former premier
1171
01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:01,800
Najib Tun Razak's
safe house
1172
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:03,200
in precinct ten.
1173
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:06,360
The boxes filled
with handbags, jewelry,
1174
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:08,320
and cash kept on coming.
1175
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:10,000
Seventeen million dollars
1176
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:11,800
worth of designer handbags
1177
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:14,320
and so much cash,
it took twenty-two officials
1178
01:19:14,480 --> 01:19:15,960
with six counting machines
1179
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:18,000
three days to get through it.
90941
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