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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,080 - Come on! 2 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,160 There's fireworks right now. 3 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,760 Welcome to the Red Granite party. 4 00:00:49,160 --> 00:00:53,440 The emergence of real film, real content, 5 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:58,400 and a change of the film industry forever. 6 00:01:06,960 --> 00:01:08,320 It was a very strange experience 7 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:09,840 because it was the, sort of, equivalent 8 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,920 of a big studio party. 9 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:13,560 It was just this heaving mass of people 10 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:15,560 and then stars everywhere. 11 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,360 Right, you know, Leonardo DiCaprio was there. 12 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,240 And then Kanye West comes on stage. 13 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,120 Get down girl Go ahead, get down 14 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,000 Get down girl, go ahead Get down 15 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,240 Jamie Foxx joins him and they do "Gold Digger". 16 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,480 Get down girl, go ahead Get down 17 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,320 And the guy next to me is like, "That's like a million dollars 18 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,320 -burnt, right there." 19 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,840 Give it up for Kanye West in the building right now. 20 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,360 Red Granite forever. 21 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,800 It was, kind of, bizarre because no one actually knew 22 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,360 who Red Granite were. They just, 23 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,200 sort of, launched and suddenly they were here 24 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:57,720 at this massive party. 25 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,600 People were really, sort of, stunned, wondering, 26 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:02,480 who are these people? 27 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,480 These officials and their associates 28 00:02:10,640 --> 00:02:13,320 conspired to misappropriate and launder 29 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,280 billions of dollars. 30 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,040 In complex, money laundering schemes, 31 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,200 in a web of opaque transactions... 32 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,600 Including high-end real estate in New York 33 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:24,600 and Los Angeles. 34 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:26,680 They used the money to pay gambling debts 35 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,120 in Las Vegas casinos. 36 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:29,680 A motion picture company 37 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,320 used more than 100 million dollars of that. 38 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:33,840 They rented luxury yachts. 39 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,280 A Park Laurel Condo 40 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:36,960 in New York City and a townhouse. 41 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:42,680 Assets that kleptocrats 42 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,560 and other corrupt officials steal-- 43 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,120 Wire transfers totaling approximately 44 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,000 sixty-four million dollars. 45 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,880 Funds were used to acquire nearly 100 million dollars. 46 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,240 People who defrauded on an enormous scale. 47 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,440 Schemes whose tentacles reached around the world. 48 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,680 In February 2013, I started an investigation 49 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,960 into illicit money flow coming into the United States. 50 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,320 The money was coming into high-end real estate 51 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,880 and it was coming through shell companies 52 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,920 where the owners could be hidden. 53 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,800 I decided to focus on the Time Warner Center. 54 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:09,400 It's an iconic building 55 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,640 of a much more global phenomenon. 56 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,440 A lot of the money the very rich have 57 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,480 is invisible. You don't see people's bank accounts. 58 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,280 But real estate is very visual. 59 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,720 This is really a starting point for the story. 60 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,640 This deed for 80 Columbus Circle, 61 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,520 Time Warner Center, penthouse 76-B. 62 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:37,560 The owner... 63 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:42,760 80 Columbus Circle, parenthesis, 64 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,640 No name of a human being. 65 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,320 Sale price, 30.55 million. 66 00:04:52,840 --> 00:04:54,440 After Time Warner Center I looked 67 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,360 for shell company names in this same format. 68 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,680 Address, parenthesis, city, LLC. 69 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,160 And I found some. One Central Park West... 70 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:16,200 Parenthesis, NYC, LLC. And there's this one here. 71 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:22,240 Park Laurel, parenthesis, 72 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,480 The buyer is Sorcem Investments, Inc., 73 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:26,960 another shell company, 74 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,960 signed by sole director of Sorcem Investments 75 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:31,280 named Riza Aziz. 76 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,400 Once I saw the name, Riza Aziz, 77 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,640 I looked him up and it was pretty easy to see 78 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,000 that he was running Red Granite Pictures. 79 00:05:39,280 --> 00:05:43,040 And that he was in the process of producing 80 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,000 -Wolf of Wall Street. 81 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,640 My name is Jordan Belfort. 82 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,120 The year I turned 26, I made 49 million dollars 83 00:05:52,280 --> 00:05:54,320 which really pissed me off because it was three shy 84 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:55,840 of a million a week. 85 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:58,280 The Wolf of Wall Street 86 00:05:58,440 --> 00:05:59,760 is based on Jordan Belfort. 87 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:02,200 A very charismatic, smart individual 88 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,360 who set up a firm and stole money. 89 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,440 Nobody knows if a stock is gonna go up, 90 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,000 down, sideways, or in circles. 91 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:10,440 Do you know what a fugazi is? 92 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,720 Oh, fugazi. It's, uh, fake. 93 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:14,200 He wired the money around the world 94 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,160 as a part of a disguise to hide it, 95 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,400 um, and then used that money to acquire great wealth 96 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:21,800 and toys that come with it. 97 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,080 ♪ But there's nowhere to go ♪ 98 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,200 ♪ And there's no way to slow If I knew... ♪ 99 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,480 The parallels between The Wolf of Wall Street story 100 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,240 and the Red Granite story, 101 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:32,840 they're actually pretty stunning. 102 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,080 It really is a very strange turn of events. 103 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:45,520 This has an incredibly hard film 104 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,360 to get finance from the onset. 105 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:48,920 You know, not many studios 106 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,320 are chomping at the bit to do an American epic 107 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,000 with Wall Street in the title, 108 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,720 let alone this, sort of, focus on hedonism 109 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,200 and debauchery and excess. 110 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,440 And for that reason I'm thankful to the people 111 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,520 that we, uh, ran into in Red Granite 112 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:03,880 that were willing to take a gamble 113 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,680 on making a very adult American epic 114 00:07:06,840 --> 00:07:08,960 about, you know, the state of our culture. 115 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:12,960 We're very excited. Very, very excited. 116 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,120 Riza Aziz was a mid-level banker 117 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:18,720 at HSBC. 118 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,040 This was not a high-level person who would've made 119 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:23,720 tens of millions of dollars 120 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:25,800 that you would need to seed these movies. 121 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,280 And Joey McFarland, his partner at Red Granite, 122 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:33,000 was from Kentucky, had had some random real estate deals 123 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:34,240 in the Midwest. 124 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,720 And then had worked as a talent booker, 125 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,920 but again, not someone who was coming with... 126 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,960 tens of millions of dollars needed to seed a movie. 127 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,200 I've started talking to a number 128 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:55,840 of different sources in Hollywood 129 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:57,520 about Red Granite. 130 00:07:58,120 --> 00:07:59,560 Who were these guys who had showed up 131 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:00,880 out of nowhere, really. 132 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,000 A Hollywood source played for me 133 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:10,440 a secret recording of Joey back from 2011 134 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,040 talking about Red Granite. 135 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:36,200 It showed that Joey had a lot of self-confidence 136 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,920 and believed in his ability to get people big money, 137 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:42,680 to do what he wanted. 138 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,880 It also gave me some insight into Riza's family. 139 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,400 - Matt! Matthew! 140 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,440 Congratulations, Margo. Congratulations. 141 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,040 I was there at The Wolf of Wall Street 142 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:20,560 premiere after-party. 143 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,600 Riza was just out with the rest of the guests 144 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,320 sitting on a banquet. 145 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,920 He had a tall, beautiful, blonde woman 146 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:31,120 accompanying him, 147 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,120 not acting like he was the center of the action. 148 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,560 Leonardo DiCaprio was in the VIP area. 149 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,840 And there was a man there with Leonardo DiCaprio. 150 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,240 I said, "Who's that fellow?", pointing. 151 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,840 And they said, "Oh, he's a really rich man. 152 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:53,960 He's Jho Low. 153 00:09:54,680 --> 00:09:56,240 He's provided the money for the movies." 154 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,880 And I said, um, "Oh. Well, how did he make his money?" 155 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:01,320 And they said, 156 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,440 "We're not sure but he's the man behind all the money." 157 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,280 A very easy, quick Google search 158 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:17,600 brought up the mysterious big spender of New York. 159 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,560 And he had been covered a few years prior 160 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,240 in The New York Post 161 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,040 for spending so much money on the club scene. 162 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,720 ♪ Let me know, let me know ♪ 163 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:32,160 ♪ If you want the world We can make this work ♪ 164 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,000 He was very sought-after by every club owner. 165 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,520 ♪ I can lead the way, baby... ♪ 166 00:10:38,680 --> 00:10:41,720 If he was there, he was making your year. 167 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,160 Just one bottle after the next, after the next. 168 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:48,840 Like ten-thousand-dollar bottles of champagne. 169 00:10:50,560 --> 00:10:52,000 He had an entourage. 170 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,520 Everyone was trying to woo him and be his best friend. 171 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,480 I thought he was, like, Malaysian royalty... 172 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,080 whatever that means. 173 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,000 You know, I didn't really know and didn't really care, 174 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,120 -to be honest. 175 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,040 So, 76B is one of the Time Warner penthouses 176 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,480 that was purchased in 2011 for 30.5 million. 177 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,720 Right up there, it's in the tower on the right. 178 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,480 And it's on the left side of the tower. 179 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,680 It's one of the most lavish penthouses in the building. 180 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,400 The renters of this unit used to be Jay-Z and Beyonce. 181 00:11:43,680 --> 00:11:45,560 And we found that during the shooting 182 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:50,440 of Wolf of Wall Street, Leonardo DiCaprio stayed in 76B. 183 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,080 And Joey McFarland spent a lot of time in the complex. 184 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,800 There were so many loud parties that there were complaints. 185 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,040 I had a lot of sources in and around this building. 186 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,160 And I was told that there was a young 187 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:10,320 Malaysian man who came to the showing of this unit. 188 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,360 And he told people he was buying it 189 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,240 for a group of investors 190 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,720 including the Prime Minister of Malaysia. 191 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,760 That young man was Jho Low. 192 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,200 Because of that connection, 193 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,760 I knew that this was a two-headed investigation. 194 00:12:31,560 --> 00:12:33,120 It was an investigation of Jho Low 195 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,840 and it was an investigation of the Prime Minister of Malaysia. 196 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:55,160 Najib became prime minister in 2009. 197 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,560 Obviously, uh, he's my brother. 198 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,760 Uh, we were extremely proud, um, of his achievement. 199 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:08,240 Our family has been very much at the heart of government 200 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,080 in Malaysia since independence. 201 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,880 Our late father became, uh, the second prime minister 202 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:16,080 of Malaysia. 203 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,800 We were extremely proud. Uh, of, uh, what my father achieved. 204 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,000 And we wanted his legacy 205 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,040 to always be remembered correctly. 206 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,360 Najib took on the mantle. 207 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,840 Uh, and it was exciting in the early days. 208 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,120 - I am a gentleman. 209 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,640 Najib is, uh, is a very interesting character. 210 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,440 He had very modern ideas for Malaysia 211 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:46,720 when he took power. 212 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:49,160 He promoted himself 213 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,840 as a moderate Muslim leader in the world, 214 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:53,920 as a friend to America. 215 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,920 So, on that level, very modern. 216 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:02,040 But having starting out as a supposedly reformist figure, 217 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:03,840 he ends up becoming 218 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,840 a more and more authoritarian leader. 219 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,440 Prime minister controls the attorney general... 220 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:23,440 the judiciary... 221 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:25,880 the media... 222 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,880 and the election commission. 223 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:35,040 And we have been governed by the same political party 224 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:36,440 since independence. 225 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,560 One party for more than 60 years. 226 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:45,600 This is a very undemocratic system of process. 227 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,080 The prime minister and the wife of the prime minister, 228 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,040 they are very, very funny character. 229 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:56,640 They give an idea every day. 230 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,200 But in Malaysia there are two individual 231 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:00,720 who cannot be drawn to cartoon. 232 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,600 One is the wife of the prime minister... 233 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,840 and the second one is the prophet Muhammad. 234 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,600 That mean she is now on same level 235 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:12,840 of prophet Muhammad. 236 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,120 Because of my cartoons, I'm facing nine charges. 237 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,480 Which, uh, carry a maximum... 238 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,840 penalty for 43 years in prison, yeah. 239 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:50,560 When I arrived in Malaysia, 240 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:52,800 my luggage was lost. 241 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:59,360 And when my luggage showed up, it was all ruffled through. 242 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:05,520 I was sensitive not to contact a lot of people before I went 243 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,320 because you know, you don't know 244 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,800 whose communications are tapped and so on. 245 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,920 And I went to Georgetown in Penang. 246 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,840 And I met with Malaysians who knew Jho Low 247 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,160 and his family when he was growing up. 248 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,680 I found out that the Low Family 249 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:09,280 is a wealthy but not extraordinarily 250 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,280 rich family, originally. 251 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,360 They became much richer through Jho's activities. 252 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,320 They had their ups and downs, he had falling-outs 253 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,400 with business partners, there was a renovation 254 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,680 on their home there that ended up in a lawsuit 255 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:26,360 over unpaid bills. 256 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,440 Larry had split off from his company 257 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,480 and, um, it was a bit of a depressed affluence, 258 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,400 and Jho really became the Low Family's... 259 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,640 hope for the future when he went off to Harrow. 260 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,520 The old schools change little through the years. 261 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,120 Old customs die hard within their walls. 262 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,240 There is still strolls in the wind on Harrow Hill. 263 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,240 I think the big sort of transformative moment 264 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,560 for Jho Low is when his parents decided to send him 265 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,680 to Harrow Boarding School in the UK in the late '90s... 266 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,000 because he suddenly went from this, you know, 267 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,000 really backwater Malaysian island to... 268 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,840 the-- the school where Winston Churchill 269 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,880 -and others had studied. 270 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:15,880 Since the granting of the school's charter, 271 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:17,680 seven of Britain's prime ministers 272 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:18,880 have been educated here. 273 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,000 Sir Winston Churchill frequently revisited Harrow 274 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,720 as one of his most distinguished old boys. 275 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,160 So, Jho Low then suddenly, you know, 276 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,440 studying alongside the King of Jordan's son, 277 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,680 the children of royalty and Arab businessmen's kids, 278 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,840 and these people were a lot wealthier than he was. 279 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,280 And I think that really gave him an eye 280 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,200 onto a different world of wealth... 281 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,640 and is probably pretty crucial in his, sort of, 282 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:45,680 psychological development. 283 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,920 -Hooray! - Hip, hip. 284 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:49,680 -Hooray! In fact... 285 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,840 Jho became really good friends with Riza in London. 286 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,760 And he also got to know Riza's mother Rosmah. 287 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,160 And Rosmah was the wife of Najib. 288 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,400 Riza Aziz was the stepson of the Prime Minister 289 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:07,440 of Malaysia. 290 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,000 And friends with them all... 291 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:12,600 was Jho Low. 292 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,520 In September 2014, 293 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,960 I wanted to see if Jho and Najib would meet up in New York. 294 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,960 They were both in town during the United Nations 295 00:19:37,120 --> 00:19:38,160 General Assembly. 296 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,240 My colleague, Stephanie Saul and I staked out 297 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:43,680 the Time Warner Center. 298 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,360 Stephanie stood outside and would tell me 299 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:50,920 when anyone was coming up. 300 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,400 And I was upstairs in the lobby 301 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,320 -of the Mandarin Oriental. 302 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:04,960 First, she texted me. 303 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,320 I stood at the ready at the elevator, out he came. 304 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,160 He walked over and sat in the bar. 305 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,280 A little while later she texted... 306 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,520 Again I was at the ready at the elevator. 307 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,800 Najib walked around to the entrance 308 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,200 to the hotel rooms. 309 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,480 It was not more than two minutes, 310 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,400 Jho stood up from the bar... 311 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,600 walked over and followed Najib 312 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,040 up into the rooms. 313 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,960 I asked Joe and Najib's representatives about this, 314 00:21:02,120 --> 00:21:04,360 they confirmed, they had been up there meeting. 315 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,120 They said it was a short social gathering, 316 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:08,320 end of story. 317 00:21:09,360 --> 00:21:12,000 But you know, a lot was going on right then 318 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,680 in the story of 1MDB and this money trail, 319 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,240 and I do wonder what they were talking about up there. 320 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,040 When Najib Razak took over 321 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:25,920 as the prime minister of Malaysia, 322 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,520 he came up with this idea to set up 323 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,400 an investment fund called 1MDB. 324 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,800 The trust fund that brings returns 325 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,520 for the future of the people. 326 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,600 And every cent of debt 327 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,840 came from Malaysian taxpayers. 328 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,120 When I found out that 1MDB invested 329 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:57,680 one billion US dollars 330 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,440 in a company called PetroSaudi... 331 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,560 the first thing you do is you check 332 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,280 who PetroSaudi is. 333 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,480 It is a fantastic name, petroleum at a point in time 334 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,480 a hundred and ten US dollars per barrel. 335 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,640 Saudi Arabia, the king of petroleum. 336 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,160 This has to be a jackpot company. 337 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,720 Then when you do a search on PetroSaudi, 338 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,400 you realize that the founder, Tarek Obaid, 339 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,040 there was no reference of him in Google, 340 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,680 any time before 2009. 341 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,000 And I discovered that he was only 32 years old. 342 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,880 It was then that we found out that when 1MBD 343 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,680 actually invested one billion in PetroSaudi, 344 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,160 PetroSaudi was barely a year old. 345 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,760 So, all those... 346 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:56,720 uh, little facts put together rang huge alarm bells 347 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,360 that there's something fishy with this investment. 348 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,640 And that's when I raised my first question 349 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,160 in March, 2010, in parliament. 350 00:23:07,360 --> 00:23:08,720 Who guarantees this loan? 351 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,480 They said, "PetroSaudi guarantees the loan." 352 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,120 On a corporate guarantee. 353 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:13,880 What is the paid-up capital? 354 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,280 How much money do they have? What is their financial reserve? 355 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,080 Can you show us the statements such that 356 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,520 they can actually guarantee a one-billion-US-dollar loan? 357 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,000 Confidential. 358 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,560 I had always asked question, 359 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,200 why was 1MDB, 360 00:23:35,360 --> 00:23:37,800 uh, not subject to the same oversight 361 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,240 uh, as the rest of the government companies? 362 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,720 So, uh, I then got hold of, uh, my other brothers, 363 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,480 uh, and we met Najib and told him 364 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:50,920 uh, that look, you know, 365 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,080 um, we are very concerned, uh, about this. 366 00:23:55,360 --> 00:23:57,920 And how that somewhat conflicted, 367 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,600 uh, with the kind of values that our father had. 368 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:05,960 Public service, 369 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,600 uh, integrity, frugality. 370 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,680 Najib said he would look into the matter 371 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:17,680 and that he would fix any shortcomings at 1MDB. 372 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:28,120 It came to my attentio 1MDB have raised bonds, 373 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,000 public debt with Goldman Sachs. 374 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,200 Debt that the people of Malaysia 375 00:24:39,360 --> 00:24:40,800 would have to pay back. 376 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,600 Goldman Sachs was being paid huge amounts. 377 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,480 And anyone who's making atypically huge fees, 378 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,000 you have to ask why. 379 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:16,560 I thought, I can't wait to meet 380 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,200 with this person and we did meet. 381 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,840 And I got a lot of information about how close 382 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,640 Jho Low was to these transactions. 383 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,680 Jho Low popped up on everything. 384 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,880 And he's secretly getting consulting fees from 1MDB. 385 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,560 He's in the VIP area at The Wolf of Wall Street 386 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,160 after-party, and he's thanked in the credits. 387 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,840 Jho and Riza passing money between them, 388 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,800 behind shell companies and real estate. 389 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,600 And so, the very tight connection 390 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,440 between Jho Low and the Prime Minister's family 391 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,640 and the Malaysian people's money 392 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,520 was becoming very clear. 393 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,480 They were each pieces in a puzzle 394 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,080 and I put this whole puzzle together. 395 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,800 I read the New York Times article. 396 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,160 I was shocked, but also extremely embarrassed. 397 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:21,840 I didn't know Jho Low. 398 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,680 I think I shook his hand a couple of times 399 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:24,960 but I didn't know him. 400 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,040 Um, but the idea that he was in some way linked 401 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,040 uh, to my-- to my brother, 402 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,400 uh, and potentially spending 403 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,480 uh, Malaysian taxpayers' money really disgusted me. 404 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,720 I knew that there were documents... 405 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:47,680 that... 406 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,760 were available, that were for sale. 407 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,600 That purported to show... 408 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:58,000 details of money moving between 1MDB and Jho Low. 409 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,280 Leaked documents. 410 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:02,840 Those were the smoking gun. 411 00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:11,480 This is a time of journalism, 412 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,960 of different parties working together 413 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,120 around the world to uncover this massive, 414 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:18,920 -massive scandal. 415 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,320 The work done by The New York Times 416 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,240 online whistle blower Sarawak Report, 417 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,200 and of course in Malaysia, you have the Edge publications 418 00:27:32,360 --> 00:27:34,440 who got into trouble with the authorities. 419 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,080 We will not apologize because we've not done 420 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,880 anything wrong. Okay? 421 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,400 We stand by everything we have published. 422 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,120 And I would like to add one thing. 423 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,480 None of the article we have published 424 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:46,880 has been challenged. 425 00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:52,520 The Sarawak Report came out with this bombshell 426 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,640 in February of 2015. 427 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,080 Seven hundred million dollars had been taken 428 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,680 from the fund under the guise of being sent to a joint venture 429 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,040 with a Saudi Arabian oil company. 430 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,840 When Sarawak Report first published 431 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,440 the joint venture agreement between 1MDB and PetroSaudi, 432 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,680 it was explosive. 433 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,560 That was the first time we got a peek 434 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,600 into the hidden operations within 1MDB 435 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,360 on how they were scamming 436 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,240 the money from the Malaysian people. 437 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,120 It was depressing. 438 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,080 Uh, people were angry. 439 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,960 The document showed that 700 million dollars 440 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,640 had ended up in, uh, in an offshore company 441 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,920 allegedly controlled by Jho Low. 442 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,680 For the record, do you have any involvement 443 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,800 or have you had any involvement 444 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,960 with 1Malaysia Development Berhad? 445 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,520 I believe that this is a politically, 446 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,920 sort of, charged effort and to try and... 447 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,960 put the blame on me when, truly, 448 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,920 I have no decision-making authority. 449 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,240 Why would you be a political target 450 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,600 in this unfolding scandal? 451 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,560 Um, I think it's-- it's because it may have stemmed 452 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,360 from my 16-year friendship with Riza Aziz 453 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:21,720 who's, of course, the... 454 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,080 stepson of the Malaysian prime minister. 455 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,280 Um, and I feel like I'm just an easy target 456 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,040 and a victim because-- Perhaps, because of my age 457 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:34,320 and unfortunately from the things that I've done 458 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,960 in my early years of-- of partying that, you know, 459 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:39,720 I had a bit too much fun then. 460 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,160 The Jho Low birthday party was a spectacle 461 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,240 in-- in every sense. 462 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,360 They had hired at least 250 463 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,640 of the most gorgeous-looking models 464 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,400 from all over America to be cocktail waitresses 465 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:04,960 for this party. 466 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,520 And they were all identically dressed in-- in red. 467 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,920 They made a stunning visual impact. 468 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,400 And all of them were walking around 469 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,000 with-- with magnums of Cristal. 470 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,920 I remember standing at the bar with Britney Spears 471 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,080 as she was waiting her turn to go on to sing "Happy Birthday". 472 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,160 And then Jamie Foxx walks on to be the MC. 473 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,520 And now you're paying attention. 474 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,440 You're saying this is no ordinary party. 475 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,320 This was now big money. 476 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,360 I was introduced to Jho Low 477 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,960 and he was a super-rich playboy billionaire. 478 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,040 Holding court around Jho Low 479 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,800 were security people. 480 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,680 It-- it's like a wedding cake if you can imagine. 481 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,280 Mr. Malaysian money bags was at the very top 482 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,240 and then there were these tiers that came down 483 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,880 and you were either in tier one or tier two or tier three. 484 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:09,360 Paris Hilton who was ushered right into the intimate circle. 485 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,400 There was this huge turnout of celebrities. 486 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,560 Including DiCaprio. The list is endless. 487 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,840 You could run a movie credit scroll 488 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,080 on the screen of all the people that were there. 489 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,160 This was the, uh, entrance to the party. 490 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,760 I went back to look at it the next day, 491 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,920 and it was like it never ever happened. 492 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:46,280 It had gone. 493 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,600 It didn't exist three days beforehand. 494 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,800 It didn't exist 24 hours afterwards. 495 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,400 I mean, it was a proper circus tent... 496 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,400 with a giant Ferris wheel inside. 497 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,840 I don't think I would be wrong if I described it 498 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,960 as the best and the most expensive party 499 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,880 that Las Vegas has ever seen. 500 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,880 To do what they did, a Ferris wheel, 501 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,400 amusement games, an arcade, security... 502 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,400 the food, the drinks, the gifts... 503 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,320 the stars, the celebrities... 504 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,000 that must've cost a hundred million dollars. 505 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,600 In the end none of it had really made sense 506 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,280 if somebody is spending that kind of money... 507 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:46,960 uh, that freely. 508 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,880 It cannot have come from legitimate sources. 509 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,040 How do we define value? 510 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,800 We interviewed Jho Low in the Journal in 2014. 511 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,280 And we wrote a story about him as an investor. 512 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,880 It is about how each deal changes a community, 513 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,720 a country, and the world. 514 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,560 There's this video that Jho Low creates 515 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,280 as an attempt to portray himself as a-- 516 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,240 as a jet-setting corporate titan. 517 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,160 Our approach is to fundamentally question 518 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,320 how quality is created. 519 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,760 How to enhance value, identify synergies... 520 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:31,600 capitalize... 521 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,480 And the back story that he gave people 522 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,440 was that his family had a lot of money. 523 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,400 And he was investing money on behalf of his grandfather 524 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:39,840 and his father who had made, you know, 525 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,440 billions in iron ore mining in Thailand. 526 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,440 But as soon as people put real resources 527 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,480 into trying to find out about his grandfather... 528 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,720 you only need to trust a few people in Malaysia 529 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,960 and you realize he didn't have billions. 530 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,280 At least not-- He didn't inherit billions. 531 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,040 Then started to donate a lot of money to cancer centers, 532 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,600 to the United Nations... 533 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,280 and I think that, again, was an attempt to make it appear 534 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,240 that he was this real businessman. 535 00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:10,720 So, the questions about where his money came from 536 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,080 he hoped would go away. 537 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,720 But we kept digging and in summer of 2015 538 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,040 came out with this much bigger story. 539 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,960 The Wall Street Journal came into possession 540 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,680 of secret documents that revealed 541 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,320 a very large payment of about 681 million dollars 542 00:34:30,720 --> 00:34:32,920 paid into the-- the personal bank account 543 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,920 of the Prime Minister of Malaysia. 544 00:34:35,720 --> 00:34:37,360 And that was a-- a big fact. 545 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,320 And it was a mystery that needed to be solved. 546 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,400 And then we came into possession 547 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,440 of these factory messenger transcripts between Jho Low 548 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,640 and one of the mid-level bankers that oversaw 549 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:52,840 the Prime Minister's accounts. 550 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,120 One of these descriptions refers to... 551 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,520 "681 American pies" about to come 552 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,080 into the Prime Minister's bank account. 553 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,400 The bank records show 681 million American dollars 554 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:09,560 are transferred in. 555 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,080 In this case, the "American pie" means 556 00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:14,800 one million dollars. So, that was the code word. 557 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:16,880 Until that point we hadn't really connected 558 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,080 Jho Low to the transfer of the Prime Minister. 559 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,440 It showed that he was there stage-managing these discussions 560 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:25,760 and setting things up. 561 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,800 And it has really proved his instrumental role 562 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:29,880 in the case. 563 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:41,960 He's asking bankers at AmBank, 564 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,600 the--a bank that he used and the prime minister used 565 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,600 to do things so compliance cannot see. 566 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,000 And he's asking, you know, 567 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,000 "Please move this money here, that money there." 568 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,480 He'd just tell them Najib wants this. 569 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,720 And he's very impatient, he's very distracted. 570 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:11,920 I'd say from reading the Blackberry messages 571 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,040 the general impression I get is that Jho Low 572 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,120 uh, is cutting a lot of corners. 573 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:22,920 I was very excited. 574 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,240 Because, you know, being a journalist for 20 years, 575 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,440 it's not everyday that you get, um, a story 576 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,640 about a sitting prime minister receiving stolen funds. 577 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,120 We wanted to make sure that we upheld 578 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:35,760 very high standards in reporting it. 579 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,200 And we're obviously getting pushed back 580 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:38,600 from the Prime Minister's office 581 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,480 saying, well, you know, this is not true. 582 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,480 So, it's very nervous to make sure that we were... 583 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,240 reporting it... 584 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:46,920 you know, everything was a hundred percent correct. 585 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,320 You can't mistakes on-- on these kinds of stories. 586 00:36:52,720 --> 00:36:55,800 And I happen to be on holiday, uh, in LA, 587 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,600 and over breakfast I picked up the Wall Street Journal. 588 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,160 Uh, and I was stunned. 589 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,840 Well, a shocking development and allegations 590 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,960 for the first time directly linking 591 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,520 the Prime Minister to the 1MDB scandal. 592 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,560 Six hundred and eighty-one million US dollars. 593 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,960 Yeah. I was-- I-- I fell off my chair, 594 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:16,320 uh, to be honest. 595 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,400 This was now becoming an international story. 596 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,040 That was a magnitude of what was happening. 597 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,760 Prime Minister, you look happy. 598 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,760 Can I ask you, sir, why you haven't resigned 599 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,880 over personal involvement in the corruption scandal 600 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,600 of global proportion, sir? 601 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,600 Are you going to resign, Prime Minister? 602 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,480 The 681 million dollars that Najib allegedly received 603 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:44,680 into his accounts 604 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,520 came two months before a really important 605 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,920 -general election in 2013. 606 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:58,680 It certainly looked like 1MDB had been a political slush fund, 607 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,440 in a way that he could spend money 608 00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:01,960 and get reelected. 609 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:07,240 I remember what happened 610 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:08,720 during the '13 general election 611 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,240 and we were wondering where all this money 612 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:11,240 was coming from 613 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:16,240 that was being poured into, uh, various constituencies. 614 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,880 There was money being, uh, given away. 615 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,120 Uh, there's vote buying in-- in many respects. 616 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:33,800 1MDB is people's money, which is why it's very irksome 617 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,360 that they would use the people's money 618 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,600 to ensure their own victory. 619 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,400 It's very, very hard to describe. 620 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,120 Uh, Najib is my brother. He will always be my brother. 621 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:51,360 And I love him as my brother. 622 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,520 We are close-knit family, but it seemed to me that... 623 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,560 his promise that he would look into it, uh, and make sure 624 00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:04,440 there was no impropriety, uh, at 1MDB 625 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,560 uh, was not happening. 626 00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:10,920 What I then decided to do was to campaign, 627 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,480 uh, to get various influential people 628 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:19,320 uh, to also, um, look into. uh, 1MDB. 629 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,680 I went to see politicians on both sides 630 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,520 and really urged everyone to make sure 631 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,880 that this is properly investigated, 632 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,720 uh, and the rule of law applies. 633 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,800 In the summer of 2015 the central bank, 634 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,520 the attorney general, 635 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,880 the anti-corruption commission were trying to investigate 1MDB 636 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,040 and find out what had been going on. 637 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:45,800 As police raided the offices 638 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,480 of Malaysian state investment fund 1MDB on Wednesday, 639 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,680 members of the prime minister's political party 640 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,040 appeared to be closing ranks behind him. 641 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,480 The Wall Street Journal's alleging investigators 642 00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,320 have found fund transfers almost 700 million dollars 643 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,120 to Najib Razak's own bank account. 644 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,160 - What we believed happened 645 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,000 is that the attorney general 646 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,320 was preparing a draft arrest warrant for Najib. 647 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,720 And, um, as the document was being prepared 648 00:40:14,240 --> 00:40:15,680 the prime minister decided to remove 649 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,000 the attorney general who was investigating 1MDB. 650 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,440 Suddenly, there was a clampdown 651 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,040 on, uh, 1MDB investigations. 652 00:40:29,240 --> 00:40:32,840 The Edge editor was held overnight. 653 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,760 Uh, The Edge was suspended for, uh, I think a few weeks. 654 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,160 Um, and at that time, um, 655 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,760 I began to also fear for my safety. 656 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,720 Protests on the streets of Kuala Lumpur 657 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,640 go into a second day. 658 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,360 These protesters are directing their anger 659 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,520 at one man, Prime Minister Najib Razak. 660 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,120 You cannot allow a prime minister 661 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:15,360 and his cabinet to continue to plunder a country 662 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,640 just because they want to live in luxury. 663 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,440 This scandal will affect our basic services. 664 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,640 Cutbacks in the health services, Cutbacks in education. 665 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,120 Cutback in terms of the quality of our transport. 666 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,240 The cutback is a result of the corruption. 667 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:41,480 You know, these people 668 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,120 who are supposed to be our leaders 669 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:44,960 just do not care. 670 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,880 Whereas, the rest of the population 671 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,640 are more concerned with whether they can actually 672 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,200 put food on their table. 673 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,760 We urge all Malaysians 674 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,600 to demand for Najib to step down. 675 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:04,440 And the institutional reforms to be implemented to end 676 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,600 all the corruptions that is happening in this country. 677 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,360 The prime minister must tender his resignation. 678 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,560 Well, there is a report that production company 679 00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:09,080 Red Granite has been accused of using 100 million dollars 680 00:44:09,240 --> 00:44:12,440 that had been diverted from the 1MDB fund 681 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,880 to finance The Wolf of Wall Street. 682 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,960 I think even before anyone knew anything 683 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,280 about the connections to Malaysia 684 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,000 before any of the dots really had been joined between 1MDB, 685 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,520 people were wondering where the hell they got that money. 686 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,560 Yes, this is Alex from The Hollywood Reporter. 687 00:44:35,720 --> 00:44:36,720 How are you doing? 688 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,200 So yes, well, I wanted to speak to you about, um, 689 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:41,960 about the company Red Granite... 690 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:43,840 Well, I had been trying to speak to anyone 691 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,280 involved in Red Granite. 692 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:46,600 We wrote a story about Red Granite 693 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,240 that was published, um, yesterday. 694 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,960 Obviously these-- there's, um, a growing investigation 695 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:52,240 into the company. 696 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,520 Former employees, anyone that's dealt with them 697 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,000 from other films. 698 00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,880 And they all have a lot of things to say 699 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,600 and they're all absolutely fascinating, 700 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,120 but I can't say any of them 701 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:05,840 because no one will go on record. 702 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,600 The amounts of money that are being talked about are vast. 703 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,600 Two hundred and thirty, two hundred and forty million 704 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:11,760 ended up with Red Granite. 705 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,960 Hollywood is actually quite a small place 706 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:16,600 I mean, everyone knows everyone. 707 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,040 You know, you don't want to really be the whistle blower, 708 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,000 you don't want your name out there as the person 709 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:22,480 that talks about stuff. 710 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:24,920 DiCaprio, from what we understand 711 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:26,560 hasn't said anything. 712 00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:28,920 Obviously, he earned potentially upwards of 25 million 713 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,160 from-- from The Wolf of Wall Street. 714 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,000 You know, if you want to continue to function 715 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,720 in the industry, probably best to-- to keep your mouth shut. 716 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,320 I mean, did you have any direct dealings 717 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:39,720 with Riza and Jho Low? 718 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,160 Can we go on the record with that? 719 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,400 But Leonardo DiCaprio and Martin Scorsese 720 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,960 are the biggest filmmakers on the planet. 721 00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,240 They make award-winning, Oscar-winning films. 722 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:01,920 People love them. 723 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,720 How long before they say, "We didn't know."? 724 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,360 Or, "Oh, God, this is terrible. 725 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,200 We should never have done this." 726 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,600 They're going to have to say something at some point, 727 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:13,800 like public figures. 728 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,880 So, we're gonna get the opposition figures 729 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,840 of Malaysia, and get their reaction. 730 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,320 Hello there. 731 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,000 Thank you so much for talking to us. 732 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:42,560 Um, this is Patrick from The Hollywood Reporter. 733 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,440 -Can you hear me? - Yup, I can. 734 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:46,560 Yes, okay. 735 00:46:47,720 --> 00:46:49,840 So, we're at the Cannes Film Festival here. 736 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,160 -And-- 737 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,840 You should come next year. 738 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,080 Oh, okay. I imagine you're very busy. 739 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,040 Um-- No? 740 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:06,880 Oh, I see. 741 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,480 Wow. What is the backstory to that? 742 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:22,400 Wow. 743 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:25,960 So, um... 744 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,600 Wolf of Wall Street, um, for the people in Malaysia 745 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:32,960 who have seen the film, 746 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,400 do you think they have a bitter feeling about it? 747 00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,120 Well, good morning all. 748 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,520 Good morning, and thank you all for being here. 749 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,240 And we are here to announce a significant step 750 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,760 in our ongoing work to combat global corruption. 751 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,880 And today, the department of justice 752 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,640 has filed a civil complaint. 753 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,040 And our complaint alleges 754 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,520 that from 2009 through 2015, 755 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,480 these officials and their associates conspired 756 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,920 to misappropriate and launder billions of dollars 757 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:51,400 from 1MDB. 758 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,920 The co-conspirators laundered their stolen funds 759 00:48:55,240 --> 00:48:58,120 through a complex web of opaque transactions 760 00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,400 and fraudulent shell companies with bank accounts in countries 761 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,240 around the world. 762 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,960 1MDB was created by the Malaysian government 763 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,200 to promote economic development 764 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,080 with the ultimate goal of improving 765 00:49:10,240 --> 00:49:12,760 the well-being of the Malaysian people. 766 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,760 But, unfortunately, sadly, tragically, 767 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,600 a number of corrupt 1MDB officials 768 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,880 treated this public trust as a personal bank account. 769 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:30,640 No, no, no. Hang on first. 770 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,720 Uh, we have to... 771 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,360 um, establish... 772 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,760 uh, the facts for this, yeah? And this is a civil action. 773 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,200 This is not a criminal action. 774 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,760 But, uh, I want, uh, to see it, categorically, 775 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:51,040 uh, that, uh, we are serious about good governance. 776 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:52,880 - All right. Thank you. -Thank you. 777 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,840 ...Najib Razak said the government 778 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,520 will give its full cooperation 779 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,080 to international parties investigating issues 780 00:49:59,240 --> 00:50:00,680 surrounding 1MDB. 781 00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,640 The Wolf of Wall Street earned just shy 782 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,360 of 400 million dollars internationally. 783 00:50:11,720 --> 00:50:14,120 But the idea of a film of that magnitude 784 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:18,640 being seized, and then owned by the US government, 785 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,000 was not anything I've ever heard of before. 786 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,840 The Hollywood angle, it's because it was such 787 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,920 a growing story, and it was all unraveling, 788 00:50:29,240 --> 00:50:32,480 it was something that requires a little bit more investigating. 789 00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,880 So last night, um, I was given a new update. 790 00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,200 Jho Low, the man at the center of this-- 791 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,160 of the whole, uh, 1MDB scandal, 792 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,520 Jho Low bought a 31-million dollar penthouse, 793 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,720 uh, in the Time Warner building in New York. 794 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,400 The real estate agent representing the seller... 795 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,200 was Robert De Niro's son. 796 00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,640 -No way. -Raphael De Niro. 797 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,280 And Robert De Niro met 798 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,680 with the Malaysian prime minister and his wife 799 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:09,840 in 2000-- and, uh, 2009 and 2010, I believe. 800 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,080 And they're-- At first in New York 801 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,920 and, um, and then he went over to Malaysia... 802 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,960 and had lunch with Rosmah Mansor, 803 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:19,520 the prime minister's wife. 804 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:21,360 We should check that out. 805 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,040 - Hello? 806 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:28,600 -Hey. Mr. DeNiro... 807 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,240 ...very nice to speak to you. 808 00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,040 I wanted to talk to you about this, um, 809 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,640 you know, this Malaysian corruption scandal. 810 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:55,840 Riza. Yeah. 811 00:51:58,640 --> 00:51:59,600 Okay. 812 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:06,520 Okay. Where was that? 813 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:13,560 Okay. 814 00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:50,520 I'm sorry. 815 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:52,840 I'm sorry. I'm really sorry. 816 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,760 I didn't actually meant to annoy you, I'm-- 817 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,400 One thing that I found fascinating 818 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,880 is that when I speak to the biggest names 819 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,240 in Hollywood, 820 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,480 I just don't think people are aware. 821 00:53:15,240 --> 00:53:16,680 Then no one actually then they go, 822 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,600 "Oh, God, yeah, we heard about that scandal maybe." 823 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,720 But then they don't turn and look at 824 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,000 its actual effects in the country 825 00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:24,240 that it's hurt the most. 826 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,640 The story, it opened my eyes, 827 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,400 as it goes international and so embarrassing. 828 00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:44,600 It also hit me hard. 829 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:46,880 Small country like Malaysia 830 00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,240 now known because of global corruption. 831 00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,760 It drive my eagerness to know and explore more 832 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,320 about Malaysia's political landscape. 833 00:54:25,240 --> 00:54:26,240 Yeah. 834 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,920 All of the questions of 1MDB 835 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,920 have been left unanswered until now. 836 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,360 I don't understand why the prime minister acts 837 00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:40,840 as if nothing happened. 838 00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,840 I started a magazine called Gedung Kartun. 839 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,720 It is hundred percent political, uh, cartoon, 840 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:09,400 where we talk about issues like, uh, corruption. 841 00:55:09,720 --> 00:55:12,960 But the government banned the magazine immediately. 842 00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,400 Then the eight officers came to my office 843 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,640 confiscated that more than 500 copies 844 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,440 of the magazine, and banned the magazine. 845 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,600 During the interrogation, I told them... 846 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,160 "Look, you can ban my books, you can ban my cartoon, 847 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:31,680 but you cannot ban my mind. 848 00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:35,280 I will keep drawing until the last drop of my ink." 849 00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,400 But after the 1MDB scandal in Malaysia, 850 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,080 I'm not sure whether I'm the one who going to 851 00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:47,400 end up in prison... 852 00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,840 or the prime minister and the wife. 853 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,240 I'm lucky to have her, actually. 854 00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,320 She's very cartoonable. 855 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:05,760 She carry a lot of handbags and also ring, and shoes. 856 00:56:06,240 --> 00:56:08,800 People call her Imelda Marcos of Malaysia, 857 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,600 or Imelda Rosmah. Uh, you know, she like to shop. 858 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,200 Najib had a credit card, 859 00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:20,440 and he'd spent 130,000 dollars in a Chanel store in Honolulu. 860 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,000 And we knew from the documents we had 861 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,440 that this credit card was being funded, 862 00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,640 um, by 1MDB money. 863 00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,040 When they were in the Chanel and trying to make a purchase, 864 00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,320 there was some problem with the credit card... 865 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,320 and Najib communicated with Jho to let him know that, 866 00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:40,960 via Blackberry messages. 867 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,760 Because Jho was running Najib's accounts. 868 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,160 But what has triggered this new wave of interest 869 00:56:52,720 --> 00:56:55,400 for the ordinary Malaysians, especially in the villages... 870 00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,560 is the fact that the money from 1MDB... 871 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,280 Twenty-seven million dollars of it 872 00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,240 was actually used to buy a diamond necklace 873 00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,600 -for the prime minister's wife. 874 00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,600 With 1MDB money, he bought a diamond, 875 00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,400 twenty-two carat. Twenty-seven million US dollars 876 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,560 for the wife of the prime minister. 877 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,920 You know, it's 120 million ringgit 878 00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:38,240 for the diamond. 879 00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:44,280 And, uh, average teacher gets paid 3,000 ringgit a month. 880 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,640 And that's, uh, twelve months a year. 881 00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,840 That's 3,333 teachers you can finance 882 00:57:56,000 --> 00:58:00,000 with that one diamond for an entire year. 883 00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,520 That's a lot of teachers. 884 00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:08,800 That has aroused the degree of, um, anger. 885 00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,360 Uh, Malaysians are, by and large, 886 00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:16,960 desensitized to corruption, um, but the scale of it, 887 00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,280 I think, is waking people up. 888 00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,120 The Malaysian people were defrauded 889 00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,120 on an enormous scale. 890 00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,480 This is the largest autocracy seizure 891 00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,280 in US history. 892 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:28,720 That was alleged in the complaint, 893 00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:30,920 funds were stolen under the pretense 894 00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:32,600 of having 1MDB 895 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,600 invested in oil exploration joint venture 896 00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:37,320 with a foreign partner. 897 00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,480 But this wasn't a legitimate investment, for 1MDB 898 00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:43,200 or for the Malaysian people. 899 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,840 Instead, the funds transferred to the Shell companies 900 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,080 were used for the personal enrichment 901 00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,920 of the corrupt officials and their associates. 902 00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:54,200 Obviously... 903 01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:34,880 This is fuckin' nuts. 904 01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:39,640 They used the money to pay gambling debts 905 01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,160 at Las Vegas casinos. 906 01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,360 They rented luxury yachts. 907 01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:50,200 Among the purchases was a bombardier jet 908 01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,160 with a purchase price of about 35 million dollars. 909 01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,680 The US Justice Department is looking to seize 910 01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:02,680 540 million US dollars in assets 911 01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:06,280 bought with money stolen from Malaysian state fund, 1MDB. 912 01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:08,640 Among the assets, uh, jewelry, 913 01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,600 worth millions of dollars, gifted to model Miranda Kerr. 914 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,360 And artworks by Picasso and Basquiat, 915 01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:16,840 gifts to actor, Leonardo DiCaprio. 916 01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,560 Jho Low has allegedly embezzled hundreds of millions of dollars 917 01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,800 from 1MDB to support a luxurious lifestyle, 918 01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:25,840 and buy such extravagant gifts. 919 01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:28,680 A spokesperson for DiCaprio said, 920 01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,040 "He will support all efforts to assure that justice is done." 921 01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:35,720 They spent millions on properties, 922 01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,280 some of which are subject to seizure and forfeiture, 923 01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,640 based on the complaint filed today. 924 01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:52,240 Arriving at 1423 Oriole Drive on the left. 925 01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:56,920 Here we go. 926 01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,880 This is the mansion that Jho Low 927 01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,040 bought for himself as a little treat 928 01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:06,280 in, uh, 2012 for about 39 million dollars. 929 01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:08,560 It's mentioned in, uh, justice department rulings 930 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:10,560 as, uh, one of the mansions that he, uh, 931 01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,040 that he bought with allegedly stolen Malaysian money. 932 01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,680 Um, it's quite a vast palace of a house. 933 01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:19,960 Just around the corner from his good friend, 934 01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:21,360 Leonardo DiCaprio. 935 01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:25,600 Did he ever actually live in it? I mean, was it ever-- 936 01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:27,240 He never-- he moved furniture into it, 937 01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:28,720 there's furniture in there now. 938 01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:30,120 - Really? - But no, he had a big 939 01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:31,600 Oscar party when he first bought it 940 01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:33,080 because some of the neighbors went, 941 01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:34,760 -and told me they were up there. - Right. 942 01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:36,400 Looked around, thought it was great. 943 01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:37,680 - Yeah. -Yeah. 944 01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:39,120 They got to rub elbows with Leo, 945 01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:40,320 -and his other neighbors. And-- 946 01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:42,000 You haven't never seen him, have you? 947 01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,160 No. Nobody's seen him in two years, apparently. 948 01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,280 -Yeah. 949 01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:47,920 That's-- why, you looking for him? 950 01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:49,520 -Yeah, yeah. Well-- -Yeah. You should. 951 01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:51,720 Go ask Leo. I'm sure he knows. 952 01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:53,560 He's probably hiding in Leo's basement. 953 01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:00,440 It's a bit cobwebby as well. 954 01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:01,800 Nothing living there for a while. 955 01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:04,040 Looks a bit quiet. 956 01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:08,360 There's no one in. 957 01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:25,360 We don't have full visibility on what 958 01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:26,800 Jho Low's doing right now. 959 01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,560 And he's certainly, sort of, gone under the radar. 960 01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:36,680 We have the number of this guy, right, 961 01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:40,000 who probably was there, so I'm gonna-- 962 01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,000 I'm gonna call him. I'm just trying to, like, 963 01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,120 work out when to do it because I don't wanna-- 964 01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:46,960 I mean he could-- you know what I mean? 965 01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,480 There's a certain amount of risk associated with it, right? 966 01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,480 I'm just gonna try to find, um, equanimity. 967 01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,800 The boat is believed to be owned by Jho Low 968 01:03:59,960 --> 01:04:01,280 through an offshore company. 969 01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:04,840 Now we know that this boat was over at the marina, 970 01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:05,960 but it's left. 971 01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:12,800 You-- where is Jho Low? 972 01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,240 I don't know where Jho Low is. Do you know where Jho Low is? 973 01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:19,840 Well, do you have any information about where he is? 974 01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:29,520 Uh-huh. Why is that? 975 01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,000 Right. So, you think the government of Malaysia 976 01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:44,600 is hiding Jho Low? 977 01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:52,240 No. I understand. 978 01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:00,920 The local guys told us that the Equanimity, 979 01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:02,480 Jho Low's boat, is out there. 980 01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:04,240 If you look over there, I guess that's Yama Point 981 01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:08,400 and it's, uh, a kilometer or two off of that, uh, out at sea. 982 01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:10,440 So you can't see it so easily from the mainland 983 01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,560 and I guess the headland here is all forested, 984 01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,200 so it's pretty secluded spot they've got out there. 985 01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:17,600 So, we think it's sort of... 986 01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:19,600 trying to sort of hide in plain sight, 987 01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:21,400 so that no one really knows what's going on. 988 01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:25,720 Uh, a bunch of skiffs have been going out 989 01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:27,880 and, uh, a captain came from the boat, 990 01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:29,200 uh, yesterday, 991 01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,160 and they've been taking provisions out there. 992 01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:34,600 I'm no yacht expert, 993 01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:36,240 but it's certainly a super yacht, 994 01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:38,680 and it has a launch pad for a helicopter, multi decks, 995 01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:40,560 I think it's, like, 180 feet. 996 01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:42,720 And I think it has a crew of 30 people, 997 01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:45,200 so it's definitely a yacht you would notice. 998 01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:55,240 Yeah. We saw the boat off of the pier 999 01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:56,760 east of Phuket. 1000 01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:01,360 It was anchored offshore, and then, all of a sudden, 1001 01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,320 around 10:00 pm in the evening, 1002 01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,360 starts setting off to the south at a rate of knots 1003 01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:08,440 and takes off into the open sea. 1004 01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:15,560 This is, uh, marine tracking, 1005 01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,760 you see all the boats, uh, moving around in real time, 1006 01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,200 and, uh, it looks like the boat's gone... 1007 01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,800 around the southern tip of Phuket, and... 1008 01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:27,840 was doing 12 knots which is, you know, 1009 01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:29,240 fairly fast speed. 1010 01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,440 And then, here, it's, uh, stopped, 1011 01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:34,080 and that's 21 hours ago. 1012 01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:37,280 So, I imagine they've turned off their identification. 1013 01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:39,760 -Uh, it's gone. 1014 01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:50,960 We, as the young generation, 1015 01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,400 have to do something, rise up. 1016 01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:27,840 Mm-hmm. 1017 01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:59,160 I saw the violence with my own eyes. 1018 01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,200 So, I know the risk. 1019 01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,280 Two days before the rally... 1020 01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:17,760 I feel insecure. 1021 01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:25,800 I realize that someone keep following me. 1022 01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:35,920 When I organizing student meeting, 1023 01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:40,000 they keep, uh, company at the back. 1024 01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:46,080 I hope that I will be safe until the rally. 1025 01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:33,880 Thank you. 1026 01:09:50,480 --> 01:09:52,440 We don't have a specific comment on anyone 1027 01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:53,880 who hasn't been named so far. 1028 01:09:54,440 --> 01:09:57,560 We are essentially describing the tracing of the assets, 1029 01:09:57,720 --> 01:09:59,080 the use of the funds, 1030 01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:01,440 and who was involved in the transactions. 1031 01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:18,080 Our agreement is only to draft the complaint 1032 01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:20,640 as we always do in civil forfeiture matters. 1033 01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:22,720 You'll see that this is a complaint that is against 1034 01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:24,680 the actual property or assets. 1035 01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:02,920 In October of 2015, my LA field office 1036 01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:06,160 joined the investigation, specifically focusing 1037 01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:07,840 on Riza Aziz. 1038 01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:09,960 And Red Granite Pictures. 1039 01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:12,000 The real question is this, 1040 01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:13,960 was all this legal? 1041 01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:16,280 Absolutely fucking not. 1042 01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,760 Approximately 238 million was wired 1043 01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,880 to Red Granite capital in Singapore, 1044 01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:26,440 an entity controlled by Aziz. 1045 01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:28,280 This money was then used to fund 1046 01:11:28,440 --> 01:11:30,760 Red Granite Pictures operations, 1047 01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,480 including the production of the film 1048 01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:34,920 The Wolf of Wall Street. 1049 01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,920 If it's proven that in fact the money 1050 01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:42,720 was embezzled from the government of Malaysia, 1051 01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:44,320 transferred around the world, 1052 01:11:44,480 --> 01:11:47,600 and ultimately went into the funding of a movie 1053 01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,360 about the story of a man, who stole money 1054 01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:51,960 and moved it around the world, 1055 01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:53,640 that's the ultimate irony. 1056 01:11:56,840 --> 01:12:00,440 The parallels between Jho Low and Jordan Belfort 1057 01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:02,600 in The Wolf of Wall Street are amazing. 1058 01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:04,320 In the early days, very disciplined, 1059 01:12:04,480 --> 01:12:07,280 very creative, very charismatic, 1060 01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:11,120 but, unfortunately, I think the-- the intoxication 1061 01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:13,080 of power and wealth, 1062 01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:16,240 it led him on a very deadly path. 1063 01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:26,360 When these guys tend to get the money that they get, 1064 01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:28,760 they forget the definition of the word excess. 1065 01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:30,800 I know we're a little unorthodox, 1066 01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:32,720 we're a little loud in the way we do things. 1067 01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:34,840 But you gotta understand, we're the new guys on the block, 1068 01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:37,240 you know, trying to make a name for ourselves, but... 1069 01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:39,600 I want you to understand, we don't... 1070 01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:42,080 do anything illegal. 1071 01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:43,760 Money bought him power, 1072 01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:44,760 bought him access. 1073 01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:48,920 It bought him recognition, it bought him status. 1074 01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:53,360 It bought him anything that crazy sums of money can buy. 1075 01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:56,160 From Saudi Arabia to Malaysia, 1076 01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:57,760 to the heart... 1077 01:12:57,920 --> 01:12:59,160 To me, this is absolutely 1078 01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:00,560 a cautionary tale, 1079 01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:02,560 and if you're gonna submerge yourself 1080 01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:05,520 in the attitude of people that had been very destructive 1081 01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:08,640 or a con, I mean, we've got to understand what entices them, 1082 01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:10,840 and we've got to be honest and authentic about 1083 01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:12,680 the portrayal of who these people are. 1084 01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:15,040 I think whenever 1085 01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:16,360 you're dealing with a young person, 1086 01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:19,080 who-- who's-- who's put in a position 1087 01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:20,520 to make an enormous amount of money, 1088 01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:22,720 and doesn't have the discipline to control it, 1089 01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:24,400 there's a little bit, you-- you know, 1090 01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:25,800 of empathy that you feel for them, 1091 01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:27,680 but at the end of the day, you know... 1092 01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:30,000 we're all-- we all have to, uh-- 1093 01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:32,960 we all have to pay for the actions we do, 1094 01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,400 and that's, kind of, how our story ends. 1095 01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:37,080 And you know what I was just thinking, too? 1096 01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:39,840 The fucking hero that I'm gonna be back at the office. 1097 01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:42,440 When the Bureau seizes this fucking boat, 1098 01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:44,240 because, I mean, fuckety-fuck-fuck, 1099 01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:46,000 -Jordan, look at this thing. 1100 01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:06,240 We will not allow the massive, brazen, 1101 01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:10,640 and blatant diversion of billions of dollars 1102 01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:12,640 from 1MDB, 1103 01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:15,320 and the alleged laundering of those funds 1104 01:14:15,480 --> 01:14:17,960 through US financial institutions 1105 01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:19,440 to continue. 1106 01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:27,480 Indonesian police and the US Federal 1107 01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:29,760 Bureau of Investigation or FBI 1108 01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:32,520 inspected a luxury yacht on Thursday 1109 01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:33,800 on the island of Bali. 1110 01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:06,320 There categorically would have not been 1111 01:15:06,480 --> 01:15:08,560 a 1MDB scandal without Jho Low. 1112 01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:13,160 He is behind the scenes, running the fund. 1113 01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:17,880 But what exactly did Najib know about it? 1114 01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,320 It's unclear and more reporting needs to be done 1115 01:15:22,480 --> 01:15:25,040 about exactly what did he know about billions 1116 01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:27,680 that-- that-- that investigators are looking into. 1117 01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:42,040 Nearly 15 million Malaysians will vote 1118 01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:44,080 in general elections that will determine 1119 01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:45,840 if the National Front Coalition 1120 01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:48,600 can extend its 60-year grip on power. 1121 01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:51,600 They will choose between Prime Minister Najib Razak... 1122 01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:56,640 or the opposition led by 92-year old former leader, 1123 01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:57,720 Mahathir Mohamad. 1124 01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:03,120 Anger over the 1MDB fiasco led to the return of Mahathir. 1125 01:16:05,440 --> 01:16:07,320 He has galvanized a fractured opposition 1126 01:16:07,480 --> 01:16:09,920 to out what he calls a government of thieves. 1127 01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:12,520 But the odds are stacked against them. 1128 01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:31,200 Well, against the odds, 1129 01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:33,640 Malaysia's former ruler Mahathir Mohamad 1130 01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:36,120 is once again set to take control. 1131 01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:40,120 He's lead an opposition coalition 1132 01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:41,560 to a shock victory. 1133 01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:43,960 Disbelief and euphoria 1134 01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:46,520 as long suffering supporters of Malaysia's opposition 1135 01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:49,760 finally realized what seemed a near impossible dream. 1136 01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:01,280 I accept the verdict of the people. 1137 01:17:01,440 --> 01:17:04,320 Well, that's it. Six decades of one party rule is over. 1138 01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:09,480 We feel as if we're breathing new air today. 1139 01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:10,880 How do you feel now? 1140 01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:13,160 No. I feel very, very happy, you see. 1141 01:17:13,440 --> 01:17:16,120 It's-- the feeling is just awesome. 1142 01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:21,080 For Malaysia, uh, I was very happy. 1143 01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,840 Um, because it was gonna happen-- 1144 01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:25,400 it was gonna happen peacefully, 1145 01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:28,800 uh, and I was very proud, uh, of my country. 1146 01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:31,600 But at the same time... 1147 01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:35,720 I've been through a very eclectic set of emotions. 1148 01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:37,480 It's very, very hard to describe. 1149 01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:39,920 The Malaysian government has slapped a travel ban 1150 01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:42,080 on ousted Prime Minster Najib Razak, 1151 01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:43,920 just as he was about to leave the country 1152 01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:45,080 on a private jet. 1153 01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:47,320 Dr. Mahathir is bound to go after 1154 01:17:47,480 --> 01:17:51,000 the billions of dollars allegedly stolen in the 1MDB 1155 01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:52,080 corruption scandal. 1156 01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:56,800 I am not sure whether I'm the one 1157 01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:58,960 who going to end up in prison... 1158 01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:02,280 or the prime minister and the wife. 1159 01:18:11,440 --> 01:18:13,040 I was in a board meeting, 1160 01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:15,480 uh, when my phone kept ringing 1161 01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:17,880 because my brother was being arrested. 1162 01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:21,960 You can... 1163 01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:26,120 never prepare... 1164 01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,680 for the sins of... 1165 01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:33,400 your brother being charged. 1166 01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:40,240 It was painful to watch. 1167 01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:46,600 Uh, I felt very sad. Uh, I felt very sad for him. 1168 01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:50,000 Uh, I felt especially sad for my mother. 1169 01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:57,440 Police officers conducted 1170 01:18:57,600 --> 01:18:59,720 a three-hour raid on former premier 1171 01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:01,800 Najib Tun Razak's safe house 1172 01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:03,200 in precinct ten. 1173 01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:06,360 The boxes filled with handbags, jewelry, 1174 01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:08,320 and cash kept on coming. 1175 01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:10,000 Seventeen million dollars 1176 01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:11,800 worth of designer handbags 1177 01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:14,320 and so much cash, it took twenty-two officials 1178 01:19:14,480 --> 01:19:15,960 with six counting machines 1179 01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:18,000 three days to get through it. 90941

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