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(wind whistling)
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- We've been doing
this for millennia.
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When I say millennia,
that means more than one.
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No Western concept of
conservation is that old.
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(soft music)
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People like Muir and these
other conservationists,
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Leopold, they just thought
nobody lived out here,
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a wilderness as a wilderness.
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That's not true.
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We've been in this
part of the country
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for thousands of
thousands of years.
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We know how to manage
natural resources,
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and we need to talk about it.
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We need the true
history of America.
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(soft orchestral music)
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- If we look at the quandary
that we find ourselves in today
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throughout the West,
we have ever increasing
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size and scale and
intensity of wildfire.
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Humans have excluded fire
from this natural system
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and have created unnatural
conditions as a result.
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Fire is our relation, and
we need to work with fire.
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- Indigenous people
of this country
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for a very long time, they've
been managing the land,
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using cultural indicators,
using cultural knowledge,
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using traditional stories,
doing prescribed fire,
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using what they know is
good for their places.
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(soft orchestral music)
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(bird whistling)
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- Part of what's
wrong with America
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is that people
don't understand that
these forests
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that they aspire to pre-European
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were really a result
of Native Americans...
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understanding the natural
cycles that occur out there.
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(soft orchestral music)
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(buffalo herd rumbling)
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- As far as Indian people,
buffalo in all their history,
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they were our economy, they
were our food, our clothing.
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Then killed to near extinction.
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So bringing these animals
back, not only are they healthy
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for eating but also
for our spirituality
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and a big part of our culture,
just making us whole again.
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It's a healing in that way also.
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(soft orchestral music)
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- Part of what they
didn't understand,
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the original
English
expeditions,
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was that what they were
looking at was in nature.
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It's nature in relationship
with humans over 1,000 years.
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- [Leaf] The fact that we're
still here today in any form...
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is a testament
to adaptation
and resilience.
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(crickets chirping)
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- My name is Michael
Kotutwa Johnson.
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I'm a member of the Hopi tribe.
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We're located up
in Northern Arizona
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about 90
miles northeast of
Flagstaff.
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We live in what they
call a semi-arid climate.
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It's right in the middle
of a big drought period,
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what they call extreme drought.
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After my grandfather passed
away, I started getting seeds
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from different people out
here, and I started planting.
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Then what I did was I
opened up more fields,
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because I wanted to plant more
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and increase the supply
of corn that we had.
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And you can see...
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some of our beans
that I had planted...
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are doing pretty good down here.
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They're starting to
come up pretty good.
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These are called hatico.
They're brown lima beans.
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So they're doing pretty good.
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They look pretty strong,
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'cause there's so much
moisture in the ground.
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No irrigation, folks.
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(soft instrumental music)
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And you can see in certain spots
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the corn is starting to come
up from about a foot depth.
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So in about a week, these
will really be showing
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really good here.
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You know what I
mean? Really good.
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It's a good day today,
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because you can see
from these little ones,
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they've got little dew
drops on them right here.
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These are our children.
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In the Hopi way these
are our children.
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So today it's a good day,
because I'm a daddy. (laughing)
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(soft instrumental music)
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(birds chirps)
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(metal clinking)
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I've had my own problems in
my life like everybody else.
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Alcohol was my Achilles
heel for the longest time,
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and I found a way to...
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dispose of that.
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But I found a way out
here to deal with that.
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When I was little boy,
being dropped off out here
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spending some summers out
here with my grandfather,
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I learned a lot.
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But as I got older and I
went through all my lifecycle
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and all my drinking and stuff,
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I was able to come out of that.
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And only came out of that
because I got back into
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what I really love and enjoy.
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And I feel like a lot
of people out here,
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if they would get back into
farming and learn from this,
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they wouldn't have near as
big of a problem out here.
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(soft instrumental music)
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- Tradition tells us
that we must have corn.
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So corn has been the main
staple for the Hopi people.
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You have to have three
years' supply of corn.
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Three years' supply of corn,
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because usually a drought
lasts about three years
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And we've had some
droughts out here.
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The tradition was that
their father was a farmer,
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and he would make the
kids grow up farming.
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Start them hoeing, planting
with a planting stick.
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And every kid grew
up on the farm.
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Today, no
kid grows up
on a farm,
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because their parents
stopped farming.
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If you don't farm
and grow your food,
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you lose your independence.
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But if you're farming and
growing your own food,
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you don't need the government.
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So you're independent.
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- The Hopi farming, to
me, the destruction,
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in just
looking back at our
history,
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was just
the introduction
of cattle.
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The federal government came in,
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and they thought that we
could use these cattle
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and as a way to...
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do better.
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What it started to do
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by bringing in these
livestock animals,
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it started bringing
in the concept
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of what they call privatization.
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So people felt
like they owned it.
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It wasn't shared as readily
as you would a crop,
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and therefore you had a
concept of privatization,
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which, in my mind, broke
down a lot of our society,
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a lot of our community
bonds with each other.
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In a drought year like we've
had the last two years,
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there's no way they can survive,
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so you wind up just drastically
cutting back their herds,
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people selling their cattle.
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I'm out here just trying
to not change the system,
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but I'm trying to
hold on to the system
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That's been existing
for over 2,000 years
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and to
encourage people to keep
farming.
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(crickets chirping)
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So these are just some of
the varieties that we raise.
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I would have to say this
is probably America's
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original sweet
corn variety here,
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because this type of seed
is what they would find
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in some of
these prehistoric
dwellings.
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This is a red variety.
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And this is a purple,
like a violet variety.
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These are just our blue
corn varieties here.
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We create about 42 different
types of dishes from Hopi corn,
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everything from
puddings to soups.
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This is our blood in a lot
of ways. This is who we are.
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When I was
at Cornell
University,
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when I talked about my corn,
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they said that I
needed 33 inches of annual
rainfall a year.
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Okay? They're planting
depths were an inch.
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Our planting depths, because
of the way our corn is,
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because that's where
the moisture is at,
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can go anywhere from
two feet all the way up.
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Over time, they've adapted.
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They have what they
call a growing region
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called an epicotyl.
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It's the
initial growing point
comes out,
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and it's elongated.
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It has an elongated epicotyl,
so it comes up from that.
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Whereas in hybrid
corn, it's only about
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probably about an
inch growing region.
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Ours is about two feet.
It can probably go longer.
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I would imagine if I
put it down four feet,
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it would still come up.
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(beans rattling)
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(soft instrumental music)
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Dry land farming
means that basically
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you don't use irrigation.
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We don't believe in irrigation.
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That's why these varieties
are so drought-tolerant,
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because we don't irrigate.
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This is where I have my beans.
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You can see some of the beans
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that are starting
to pop up out here.
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These white lima beans.
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(digging)
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Were clearing it down to
where it gets moisture
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Five Lima bean seeds
in there or so.
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These are like super seeds,
you know? They've very tough.
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They're like us, and so,
because they're like us,
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they survive like us.
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Limited amount of water,
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a lot of nurturing,
a lot of caring,
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a lot of community building.
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This is about a foot.
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Conventional agriculture
goes to about right here.
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That's what your planter is
designed to go down an inch.
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That's it.
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(digging)
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Our early corn, we put in early
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to coincide with
our home dances.
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That'd be sweet corn, yellow
corn, different varieties.
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We don't get any rains here
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all the way from
usually from April
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all the way till the monsoon,
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which is the last week in July.
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For us to grow things
with only six to 10 inches
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of annual precipitation
is amazing.
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(soft music)
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This year I put in about six
different varieties of corn.
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You've got to grow
them out every year.
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You try to go at least
one row out every year,
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because the climate changes,
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and so, unless you do that,
these plants won't adapt,
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they won't change.
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And when we're going
through climate change
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throughout the globe, we need
to have that biodiversity,
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because biodiversity
can react and can adapt,
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just like we should, but
they know how to do that.
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Those little seedlings
know how to do that.
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We as human beings are
forgetting how to do that.
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These are the new generation.
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These have been geared to adapt
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to what they call
climate change.
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(soft instrumental music)
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(river babbling)
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(speaking in Karuk language)
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- This right here
is our country.
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This is where we
were born and raised,
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just like our long
ago people were.
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Our religion
is survival in
this place.
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Living in this place for
countless generations,
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thousand of years.
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It's hard to say
it's a religion.
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It's really management practices
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that have evolved in
this place to survive.
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And fire, in our
creation stories,
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there's always a recognition
that fire has always been here,
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it's always been a part of us.
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(soft instrumental music)
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- The Karuk people have lived
here for thousands of years.
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And acorns for
native people here
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were a staple of their life...
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of their diet,
that was deer meat
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and all of these plants
that are around us
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that yield different edible
resources throughout the year.
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So in order to have those
resources at a predictable time,
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in a predictable quantity,
in a predictable area,
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you needed to have a handle on
manipulating that vegetation
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to inhibit the plants
you didn't want there
253
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and to encourage and
basically fertilize
254
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the plants that
you did want there.
255
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A lot of the burning
had been done by women
256
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from a two mile radius
around the village site.
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And that was to produce
a fine grain mosaic
258
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being oak woodlands
and grasslands.
259
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- They put fire on the
ground, underneath the trees
260
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to burn up old acorns
and leaves and duff
261
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to make it easier to pick
the acorns when they fall.
262
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Also that smoke, putting that
smoke up into the canopy...
263
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suppresses the bugs.
264
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What those women
essentially were doing
265
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besides enhancing food
sources, basketry resources,
266
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all the things that
you needed to survive,
267
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at the same time, they
were eliminating the risk
268
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of wildfire
to their
communities.
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Fires don't burn in the black,
where fire has already been.
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That's how you put out
fires with backfires.
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When a wild fire
hits it, it goes out,
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because it runs out of fuel.
273
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When you have this constant,
regular, low intensity fire
274
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being put on the landscape
at this community scale,
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not a firefighting force,
276
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not anybody going out
there to fight fire.
277
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Nobody was fighting anything.
278
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They were working with fire
279
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to enhance resources and
protect their community.
280
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(somber music)
281
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- Fire suppression and exclusion
with first colonization,
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diseases that decimated
native populations,
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that limited severely
there number of ignitions
284
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and the complexity
of their stewardship
285
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and
agroforestry systems around
fire use.
286
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And then you had settlement,
287
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whether there
was direct
displacement,
288
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native people being removed
out of their villages,
289
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put on reservations
and other rancherias.
290
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Then you had the destruction
of that cultural fire regime.
291
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And then following
that initial period
of colonization,
292
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then there was a
very strong emphasis
293
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on suppressing all fires.
294
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Whether they were lightning
or they were arson
295
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or un-permitted ignitions,
296
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they were to
be suppressed in
the interest
297
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of timber resources and
protection of communities.
298
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(somber music)
299
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- [Leaf] Suppressing
wildfire or any fire
300
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was a really a policy mandate
301
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of those early
first rangers here.
302
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They arrested people,
put people in jail.
303
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So those ceremonial
practices, the ritual fire
304
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that was part of our annual
world renewal ceremony
305
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was outlawed and people
were put in jail for it.
306
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(spirited music)
307
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- [Narrator] Wood for war!
308
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The Navy needs wood.
309
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They Air Forces need wood
for troop-carrying gliders.
310
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We all need our forests,
311
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but the forest have a vicious
public enemy number one!
312
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Fire, ruthless,
devastating
forest fire
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wiping out home, destroying
critical war materials,
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taking its annual toll of lives!
315
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- [Leaf] We have 100
years of scaring people
316
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about the evil effects of
fire and how fire is evil.
317
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Smokey Bear, one of the most
effective propaganda campaigns
318
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that the world has ever known,
319
00:17:30,258 --> 00:17:35,263
has done such a good job
of instilling fear of fire
320
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in the general populace.
321
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- [Leaf] And now you
have a condition where
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we essentially haven't had fire,
323
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and then with increasing
climatic conditions
324
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of temperatures, densification
and build up a fuels,
325
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drought stressed, high
fuel load, very dry forest,
326
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We see many
conditions
in the West
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and particularly in California
and Southwest Oregon
328
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that now we're saying we're
having catastrophic fires
329
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or fires that are larger
in extent and severity,
330
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more extensive and more damaging
331
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than has ever been
in recorded history.
332
00:18:08,088 --> 00:18:10,507
But it's all built
around fighting.
333
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Fighting fire, it's not
a fight you can win,
334
00:18:14,386 --> 00:18:16,346
and it's not
something
that people
335
00:18:16,388 --> 00:18:17,889
should be trying to fight.
336
00:18:19,808 --> 00:18:22,769
How can we engage with fire?
337
00:18:22,811 --> 00:18:27,065
How can we embrace
fire as a partner?
338
00:18:27,107 --> 00:18:30,276
Because that's what it is.
It's the best partner we have.
339
00:18:35,990 --> 00:18:38,284
(clunking)
340
00:18:43,998 --> 00:18:46,418
(chattering)
341
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- My grandfather, he
would kind of know,
342
00:19:04,519 --> 00:19:07,439
"Oh, I feel like I'm gonna
burn today. It feels right."
343
00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:08,940
I remember as a kid growing up
344
00:19:08,982 --> 00:19:11,317
and being like, "Is
today a good burn day?"
345
00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,403
And he'd be like,
"No, it's too wet,"
346
00:19:13,445 --> 00:19:15,321
or like, "No, not yet."
347
00:19:15,363 --> 00:19:17,323
And then he'd start feeling
like you could just...
348
00:19:17,365 --> 00:19:18,575
He'd go out and he'd be like,
349
00:19:18,616 --> 00:19:20,827
"I think today's
a good burn day."
350
00:19:20,869 --> 00:19:23,079
And he'd go out and
he'd light a fire.
351
00:19:23,121 --> 00:19:25,331
And then sometimes it
wouldn't go how he wanted,
352
00:19:25,373 --> 00:19:26,541
so he'd stop.
353
00:19:26,583 --> 00:19:27,810
And then he'd go back
in a few more days,
354
00:19:27,834 --> 00:19:30,128
maybe he tried again,
and maybe it was good,
355
00:19:30,170 --> 00:19:31,296
so he'd go for it.
356
00:19:31,338 --> 00:19:35,008
(light instrumental music)
357
00:19:37,218 --> 00:19:41,181
This is the Panamnik
Tishawnik village area.
358
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We swim here. We fish here.
359
00:19:43,558 --> 00:19:45,185
We...
360
00:19:45,226 --> 00:19:48,104
We gather here ceremonially
361
00:19:48,146 --> 00:19:50,523
for the deerskin dances,
for all the other dances
362
00:19:50,565 --> 00:19:54,110
that we've all kind of
come to our whole lives.
363
00:19:54,152 --> 00:19:56,529
And this is all on your mind
364
00:19:56,571 --> 00:20:00,658
when you're standing just
in this one spot. (laughing)
365
00:20:02,577 --> 00:20:05,413
(fire crackling)
366
00:20:09,668 --> 00:20:14,923
Traditionally, this place
would have been burned...
367
00:20:15,423 --> 00:20:18,051
for many reasons, for gathering,
368
00:20:18,093 --> 00:20:22,389
for basket weaving
materials,
cultural reasons.
369
00:20:22,430 --> 00:20:25,058
In the larger picture
of the country today,
370
00:20:25,100 --> 00:20:27,519
with a lot of these larger
wildfires happening,
371
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,229
you can use cultural knowledge
372
00:20:29,270 --> 00:20:32,065
to drive a lot of these
management practices
373
00:20:32,107 --> 00:20:36,611
that tie directly
into protection and
wildfire instances.
374
00:20:38,571 --> 00:20:40,407
There's a lot
of history in
these places,
375
00:20:40,448 --> 00:20:42,033
and there's a lot
of history in places
376
00:20:42,075 --> 00:20:43,576
for my family as well.
377
00:20:43,618 --> 00:20:46,079
My sister lives here
at the end of the road
378
00:20:46,121 --> 00:20:49,082
on the same residence
where my grandma was raised
379
00:20:49,124 --> 00:20:51,584
and her parents lived.
380
00:20:51,626 --> 00:20:54,421
I know that people on
this lane, especially,
381
00:20:54,462 --> 00:20:56,423
are really excited for
the burning to happen,
382
00:20:56,464 --> 00:21:00,593
because they did experience
the Dance Fire back in 2013.
383
00:21:00,635 --> 00:21:04,514
I was at my sister's house
when the fire started.
384
00:21:04,556 --> 00:21:08,101
We were cracking acorns
in her living room.
385
00:21:08,143 --> 00:21:09,662
And as soon as I walked
out on the porch,
386
00:21:09,686 --> 00:21:12,355
there was just like this wall
of flames across the street.
387
00:21:12,397 --> 00:21:14,357
And it was already
in the canopies
388
00:21:14,399 --> 00:21:16,943
of all the Doug firs
across the street.
389
00:21:16,985 --> 00:21:19,738
(somber music)
390
00:21:19,779 --> 00:21:22,282
- It was such a terrible year.
391
00:21:22,323 --> 00:21:27,412
We had like hardly any rain,
no snow big time before.
392
00:21:27,996 --> 00:21:30,540
So it just took off. It
came straight at our house.
393
00:21:30,582 --> 00:21:33,293
This little bitty bit of
cleared land right here
394
00:21:33,335 --> 00:21:36,296
is what stopped the fire from
taking all these other houses.
395
00:21:36,338 --> 00:21:37,839
A lot of people
were like, "Dang,
396
00:21:37,881 --> 00:21:40,717
if you guys hadn't cleared your
property out before the fire
397
00:21:40,759 --> 00:21:42,486
it probably would've lost
the whole neighborhood.
398
00:21:42,510 --> 00:21:44,387
And so we were like
we were really lucky
399
00:21:44,429 --> 00:21:46,473
because the tribe helped
us do that at the time too,
400
00:21:46,514 --> 00:21:49,142
otherwise we wouldn't have been
able to do it by ourselves,
401
00:21:49,184 --> 00:21:50,769
because I was like
nine months pregnant
402
00:21:50,810 --> 00:21:51,996
when we bought the
property. (chuckles)
403
00:21:52,020 --> 00:21:55,315
I wasn't much help to
anybody at the time.
404
00:21:55,357 --> 00:21:58,151
So it's really good to
see controlled burns.
405
00:21:58,193 --> 00:22:02,113
And then, yeah, one crew can
take care of a whole area,
406
00:22:02,155 --> 00:22:04,657
versus having an army
of firefighters coming,
407
00:22:04,699 --> 00:22:07,160
fighting a fire.
408
00:22:07,202 --> 00:22:08,661
I mean, when it
gets to that point,
409
00:22:08,703 --> 00:22:09,996
yes, we gotta do,
410
00:22:10,038 --> 00:22:12,165
but you don't need to
let it get to that point.
411
00:22:12,207 --> 00:22:14,668
(fire crackling)
412
00:22:14,709 --> 00:22:17,170
Personally, I'm a
clinical social worker,
413
00:22:17,212 --> 00:22:20,674
and a lot of what I deal with
with a lot of native people,
414
00:22:20,715 --> 00:22:23,176
we have a lot of trauma.
415
00:22:23,218 --> 00:22:26,012
We have really high rates
of suicide and depression,
416
00:22:26,054 --> 00:22:28,640
and a lot of that has to
do with the disruption
417
00:22:28,682 --> 00:22:32,602
of our culture and
our religions and
our way of living.
418
00:22:32,644 --> 00:22:35,355
And a lot of our
problems that we have
419
00:22:35,397 --> 00:22:37,691
with the weather and climate
change and everything
420
00:22:37,732 --> 00:22:39,776
is because of the
same disruption,
421
00:22:39,818 --> 00:22:43,113
the same disruption of
trying to make something fit
422
00:22:43,154 --> 00:22:44,531
a certain kind of box.
423
00:22:44,572 --> 00:22:46,452
And I think that's how a
lot of Western cultures
424
00:22:46,491 --> 00:22:49,202
have been
with non-Western
cultures,
425
00:22:49,244 --> 00:22:52,038
and I think that's how they've
kind of been with nature.
426
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,375
And so I think it's time
to to learn from each other
427
00:22:55,417 --> 00:23:00,130
and meld better and bow
to each other's knowledge
428
00:23:00,171 --> 00:23:01,172
in certain areas.
429
00:23:03,591 --> 00:23:06,428
(river babbling)
430
00:23:07,887 --> 00:23:11,224
- We use fire for a lot
of things in ceremony,
431
00:23:11,266 --> 00:23:15,103
creating a ripple that calls
the salmon up the river.
432
00:23:16,855 --> 00:23:20,567
The top of Black Mountain
that would burn off,
433
00:23:20,608 --> 00:23:24,404
it drains into the
Camp Creek watershed.
434
00:23:25,447 --> 00:23:27,741
And so at that time of year,
435
00:23:27,782 --> 00:23:30,243
you're kind of at one
of the warmest periods
436
00:23:30,285 --> 00:23:32,162
for the river temperatures,
437
00:23:32,203 --> 00:23:36,207
and so when you burn
off the understory
438
00:23:36,249 --> 00:23:37,667
and the small plants,
439
00:23:37,709 --> 00:23:41,087
you no longer have things
using that surface water,
440
00:23:41,129 --> 00:23:45,091
so you have more cold
water groundwater inputs
441
00:23:45,133 --> 00:23:46,593
into your streams.
442
00:23:46,634 --> 00:23:50,347
The smoke in the air
reduces the heat,
443
00:23:50,388 --> 00:23:53,266
the radiant heat from
the sun on the water,
444
00:23:53,308 --> 00:23:56,436
and so that contributes
to colder temperatures
445
00:23:56,478 --> 00:23:57,604
in the river as well.
446
00:23:57,645 --> 00:23:59,564
And so just these
little minute changes
447
00:23:59,606 --> 00:24:01,691
that happened based
on the human activity
448
00:24:01,733 --> 00:24:05,278
in this ceremony of
lighting that mountain
449
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,281
actually has scientifically
valid connections
450
00:24:08,323 --> 00:24:09,908
to calling the
fish up the river.
451
00:24:11,493 --> 00:24:13,912
(soft music)
452
00:24:20,669 --> 00:24:23,380
- Our religion
we practice is
Pic-ya-wish,
453
00:24:23,421 --> 00:24:25,590
translated as "world renewal".
454
00:24:26,424 --> 00:24:29,135
So the Karuk people were
fix-the-world people.
455
00:24:29,177 --> 00:24:30,821
Today, we're gonna go
down and we're gonna fish
456
00:24:30,845 --> 00:24:31,888
in Ishi Pishi Falls.
457
00:24:31,930 --> 00:24:33,264
It's very...
458
00:24:34,182 --> 00:24:36,768
It's very romantic in
some people's eyes,
459
00:24:36,810 --> 00:24:38,895
very frustrating and others'.
460
00:24:38,937 --> 00:24:39,896
I'm both of those.
461
00:24:39,938 --> 00:24:41,898
I love it, that's
my way of life,
462
00:24:41,940 --> 00:24:45,151
but the health of the river
463
00:24:45,193 --> 00:24:47,320
runs parallel with the
health of the people.
464
00:24:47,362 --> 00:24:48,446
We need to put to action,
465
00:24:48,488 --> 00:24:50,657
the physical actions
on the landscape.
466
00:24:50,699 --> 00:24:53,159
We've got to
start cleaning the
sacred trails.
467
00:24:53,201 --> 00:24:54,494
We've got to start igniting
468
00:24:54,536 --> 00:24:56,371
and cleaning the
forest once again.
469
00:24:58,206 --> 00:25:01,418
Everything we do in our world
the salmon benefits from.
470
00:25:01,459 --> 00:25:04,796
(soft orchestral music)
471
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,777
- So in our tribal ceremony
is to fix the world.
472
00:25:27,819 --> 00:25:29,195
It's not just to
fixed this creek
473
00:25:29,237 --> 00:25:31,197
or fix our family
or fix our river.
474
00:25:31,239 --> 00:25:32,198
We want to fix the whole world,
475
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,200
because if things
are wrong here,
476
00:25:34,242 --> 00:25:36,369
they're wrong on the other
side of the world too.
477
00:25:36,411 --> 00:25:38,705
That's just the way the
world works on the balance.
478
00:25:38,747 --> 00:25:41,875
So in our tribe, we knew that
in fix the world ceremony,
479
00:25:41,916 --> 00:25:46,921
Pic-ya-wish, even a small group
of people with great energy,
480
00:25:47,422 --> 00:25:48,715
great focus and pure thought
481
00:25:48,757 --> 00:25:51,676
can actually trigger
the world, the earth,
482
00:25:51,718 --> 00:25:53,470
and put it back on its balance.
483
00:25:53,511 --> 00:25:56,348
(fire crackling)
484
00:26:03,688 --> 00:26:06,441
(wind whistling)
485
00:26:11,363 --> 00:26:16,409
(chanting in foreign
language) (steady drumming)
486
00:26:39,808 --> 00:26:42,644
(crowd cheering)
487
00:27:00,995 --> 00:27:03,623
(calm music)
488
00:27:12,007 --> 00:27:14,843
(wind billowing)
489
00:27:30,025 --> 00:27:32,736
- So we've brought buffalo
back here at Blackfeet.
490
00:27:32,777 --> 00:27:37,782
I think in 1974, we started to
restore animals back to here.
491
00:27:38,867 --> 00:27:41,619
And there wasn't a real big...
492
00:27:43,538 --> 00:27:47,625
Interest, and I guess
because buffalo had been gone
493
00:27:47,667 --> 00:27:49,544
from our culture for so long,
494
00:27:51,046 --> 00:27:54,132
being almost hunted
to near extinction.
495
00:27:54,174 --> 00:27:57,177
So the biggest part
of why our people...
496
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,013
have never seen them.
497
00:28:00,055 --> 00:28:02,932
So after they were killed
to near extinction,
498
00:28:02,974 --> 00:28:08,021
making way for cattle for this
country, things were lost.
499
00:28:09,564 --> 00:28:13,568
Our language, our
way of religion...
500
00:28:14,194 --> 00:28:15,945
losing land.
501
00:28:15,987 --> 00:28:18,698
These animals here
are my passion,
502
00:28:18,740 --> 00:28:20,575
bringing these animals back
503
00:28:21,409 --> 00:28:24,746
and returning that
part of our culture.
504
00:28:26,706 --> 00:28:27,874
My name is Ervin Carlson,
505
00:28:27,916 --> 00:28:29,668
and I'm a member of
the Blackfeet Nation
506
00:28:29,709 --> 00:28:32,671
and President of
the InterTribal
Buffalo Council.
507
00:28:32,712 --> 00:28:37,509
I'm here today to respectfully
urge passage of H.R. 5153,
508
00:28:38,093 --> 00:28:40,136
the Indian Buffalo
Management Act,
509
00:28:40,178 --> 00:28:42,389
to create a permanent
tribal buffalo
510
00:28:42,430 --> 00:28:44,724
restoration and
management program
511
00:28:44,766 --> 00:28:47,519
within the Department
of the Interior.
512
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,063
Buffalo are sacred
to American Indians.
513
00:28:50,105 --> 00:28:52,899
Historical records indicate
that American Indians
514
00:28:52,941 --> 00:28:55,902
relied heavily on
buffalo for survival.
515
00:28:55,944 --> 00:28:57,904
Buffalo provided
us food, shelter,
516
00:28:57,946 --> 00:29:00,532
clothing and essential tools.
517
00:29:00,573 --> 00:29:03,410
In the early 1800s,
the buffalo population
518
00:29:03,451 --> 00:29:06,037
in North America
exceeded 30 million,
519
00:29:06,079 --> 00:29:09,082
and the American
Indian population was near
seven million.
520
00:29:10,792 --> 00:29:13,837
The military systematically
eliminated buffalo
521
00:29:13,878 --> 00:29:15,588
to eliminate the Indians.
522
00:29:15,630 --> 00:29:17,590
In addition, westward expansion
523
00:29:17,632 --> 00:29:19,926
and the greed of
non-Indian
buffalo hunters
524
00:29:19,968 --> 00:29:22,929
reduced the buffalo
population to 500
525
00:29:22,971 --> 00:29:26,099
and the
Indian population to
250,000
526
00:29:26,141 --> 00:29:27,726
by the turn of the century.
527
00:29:28,810 --> 00:29:32,105
With confinement of Indians
to reservation lands,
528
00:29:32,147 --> 00:29:34,941
Indians had lost their
primary food source,
529
00:29:34,983 --> 00:29:37,068
lifestyle and independence.
530
00:29:38,737 --> 00:29:41,448
In 1991, a handful
of Indian tribes
531
00:29:41,489 --> 00:29:44,534
organized the InterTribal
Bison Cooperative
532
00:29:44,576 --> 00:29:47,787
to begin restoration of
buffalo to Indian tribes.
533
00:29:47,829 --> 00:29:52,959
Today, the ITBC is
comprised of 69 tribes
534
00:29:53,001 --> 00:29:56,629
across 19 States with
55 buffalo herds,
535
00:29:56,671 --> 00:30:00,008
collectively the largest
herd in the United States.
536
00:30:05,180 --> 00:30:08,224
The buffalo are very good
stewards of the land.
537
00:30:08,266 --> 00:30:10,477
They're a naturally
migrating animal.
538
00:30:10,518 --> 00:30:13,897
They don't just to stay
in one area and overgraze.
539
00:30:13,938 --> 00:30:15,106
They're naturally migrating.
540
00:30:15,148 --> 00:30:17,567
If they get enough room to roam,
541
00:30:17,609 --> 00:30:19,611
they'll move from area to area.
542
00:30:21,029 --> 00:30:24,240
The cattle and the other
animals, they'll overgraze
543
00:30:24,282 --> 00:30:26,159
if you keep them only
in one area too long.
544
00:30:26,201 --> 00:30:29,162
So you don't have to
take care of them.
545
00:30:29,204 --> 00:30:32,582
They take care of themselves.
They're very hardy animals.
546
00:30:32,624 --> 00:30:37,128
And we just had a real
severe winter this past year.
547
00:30:38,129 --> 00:30:39,881
A lot of cattle were lost.
548
00:30:41,174 --> 00:30:44,135
But we didn't lose any
buffalo to that weather.
549
00:30:44,177 --> 00:30:47,514
They just maintain, and
they'll just turn their heads
550
00:30:47,555 --> 00:30:50,225
into the storm and go
to it, and they don't...
551
00:30:51,726 --> 00:30:53,853
turn away and turn their
tails into the storm
552
00:30:53,895 --> 00:30:56,064
like domestic animals will.
553
00:30:57,649 --> 00:30:59,025
- You think about the buffalo
554
00:30:59,067 --> 00:31:02,278
being the biggest
climate change adapter
555
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,282
as an animal in the world,
and I mean for centuries
556
00:31:06,324 --> 00:31:08,618
and thousands and
thousands of years.
557
00:31:08,660 --> 00:31:11,871
Now we're in an age that they're
gonna have to adapt to this
558
00:31:11,913 --> 00:31:14,833
and they can easily adapt
because of their hair.
559
00:31:14,874 --> 00:31:17,711
Their hair is so different
than a cow hide, right?
560
00:31:17,752 --> 00:31:19,295
It's four times more thick,
561
00:31:19,337 --> 00:31:22,632
but they also grow more
hair for the winter.
562
00:31:22,674 --> 00:31:25,218
Then they shed it
for the summer.
563
00:31:25,260 --> 00:31:29,556
And so it's just a natural
insulator both ways.
564
00:31:29,597 --> 00:31:33,893
If you look at it economically,
how many cattle do you lose?
565
00:31:33,935 --> 00:31:37,981
How much more feed do
you have to feed the cow
566
00:31:38,023 --> 00:31:39,691
compared to a buffalo?
567
00:31:39,733 --> 00:31:41,651
And then the water
situation too.
568
00:31:41,693 --> 00:31:44,571
A buffalo can go two and a
half days without drinking.
569
00:31:44,612 --> 00:31:46,906
So they're just so
much more resilient.
570
00:31:46,948 --> 00:31:48,074
(soft music)
571
00:31:48,116 --> 00:31:49,743
- Today we're gonna
move them animals
572
00:31:49,784 --> 00:31:52,245
to the north side
of the pasture.
573
00:31:56,291 --> 00:31:59,794
(buffalo herd rumbling)
574
00:32:27,989 --> 00:32:32,994
Like I say, them being gone
so long, it was a real...
575
00:32:33,453 --> 00:32:35,330
reeducating our own people...
576
00:32:36,998 --> 00:32:38,333
to the animal.
577
00:32:39,834 --> 00:32:42,796
And it never really, really
took off until, I would say,
578
00:32:42,837 --> 00:32:46,257
in the past eight
years we started the...
579
00:32:48,009 --> 00:32:49,302
Iinnii Project.
580
00:32:49,344 --> 00:32:51,763
Iinnii is the Blackfeet
word for buffalo.
581
00:32:51,805 --> 00:32:54,808
And we started having dialogues,
582
00:32:54,849 --> 00:32:59,854
meeting with elders, meeting
with our young people,
583
00:33:00,188 --> 00:33:03,817
and just talking about
the return of buffalo.
584
00:33:03,858 --> 00:33:07,946
(children shouting and laughing)
585
00:33:08,780 --> 00:33:11,157
(soft music)
586
00:33:13,868 --> 00:33:17,872
(speaking in Blackfeet)
587
00:33:32,721 --> 00:33:35,265
- I really learned in my life
588
00:33:35,306 --> 00:33:38,184
that if we were to teach
our young anything,
589
00:33:38,226 --> 00:33:41,312
it had to be hands-on, it
couldn't be from a book,
590
00:33:41,354 --> 00:33:43,356
and it couldn't be from lecture.
591
00:33:43,398 --> 00:33:46,860
They had to participate
in actively.
592
00:33:46,901 --> 00:33:48,695
You could prepare them,
593
00:33:48,737 --> 00:33:51,239
but they had to actually
participate in it.
594
00:33:52,323 --> 00:33:54,492
So the students...
595
00:33:55,410 --> 00:33:58,538
in the grades
from kindergarten to
the 12th grade,
596
00:33:59,831 --> 00:34:02,500
there was many needs
that the students had,
597
00:34:02,542 --> 00:34:04,085
and their tribal identity
598
00:34:04,127 --> 00:34:07,839
was one of the most
strongest need there was.
599
00:34:07,881 --> 00:34:10,258
(chattering)
600
00:34:11,926 --> 00:34:13,762
And they...
601
00:34:14,512 --> 00:34:17,349
just took to it like
a duck to water.
602
00:34:18,183 --> 00:34:20,018
They wanted to know everything.
603
00:34:20,060 --> 00:34:23,355
(laughing and chattering)
604
00:34:23,396 --> 00:34:26,232
- Our sister tribes
is Kainai and Siksika.
605
00:34:26,274 --> 00:34:29,152
And so none of them
have a buffalo herd.
606
00:34:29,194 --> 00:34:32,238
So I started asking some
of that elder ladies,
607
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,032
who I thought would
probably have known
608
00:34:34,074 --> 00:34:36,076
how to butcher a buffalo.
609
00:34:36,117 --> 00:34:38,179
And I said, "Have you guys ever
been to a buffalo harvest?"
610
00:34:38,203 --> 00:34:40,914
And they're like, "No,
this is our first one."
611
00:34:40,955 --> 00:34:43,917
And that was kinda
heartbreaking to me,
612
00:34:43,958 --> 00:34:45,335
that that was their first one,
613
00:34:45,377 --> 00:34:47,754
and they're like 80 years old.
614
00:34:47,796 --> 00:34:51,091
So that whole generations
of not been able
615
00:34:51,132 --> 00:34:54,928
to even be part of that buffalo.
616
00:34:54,969 --> 00:34:57,806
(delicate music)
617
00:35:00,975 --> 00:35:03,978
(children shouting)
618
00:35:07,607 --> 00:35:10,151
- We have these
songs with us yet.
619
00:35:11,069 --> 00:35:14,239
We may not have
the
ceremonies...
620
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,949
but the songs are still with us.
621
00:35:15,990 --> 00:35:20,286
And we need people
know these songs.
622
00:35:21,413 --> 00:35:24,165
Because we're not going
to be around all the time.
623
00:35:26,084 --> 00:35:27,293
I'm 90 years old,
624
00:35:27,335 --> 00:35:30,338
and I don't expect to
be here another year.
625
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,135
Of our creator we ask
to be with us today.
626
00:35:35,176 --> 00:35:38,304
Our ancestors, our
people in the past
627
00:35:38,346 --> 00:35:41,307
have left us some
things to follow.
628
00:35:41,349 --> 00:35:42,308
(shouting)
629
00:35:42,350 --> 00:35:44,269
We asked that you
will direct us.
630
00:35:44,310 --> 00:35:46,521
(chanting)
631
00:35:57,615 --> 00:36:01,161
[Ervin] These animals took
care of us in our beginning,
632
00:36:01,202 --> 00:36:02,579
in the old way.
633
00:36:02,620 --> 00:36:07,042
And now, in a new way, they're
also taking care of us.
634
00:36:07,667 --> 00:36:10,003
And so we take care of them.
635
00:36:10,045 --> 00:36:12,297
(Singing in Blackfeet)
636
00:36:16,384 --> 00:36:19,179
(bids chirping)
637
00:36:37,238 --> 00:36:40,283
- We're on the University
of Arizona campus.
638
00:36:40,325 --> 00:36:42,452
I'll be doing my
PhD defense tomorrow
639
00:36:42,494 --> 00:36:45,580
to get to be a doctor in
philosophy in natural resources.
640
00:36:54,714 --> 00:36:57,550
(soft music)
641
00:36:57,592 --> 00:37:01,221
I've been over here a
little over 12 years now,
642
00:37:01,262 --> 00:37:05,141
and it's been a long road
for a number of reasons,
643
00:37:05,183 --> 00:37:06,393
most of them personal.
644
00:37:06,434 --> 00:37:09,187
But what motivated
me to get here
645
00:37:09,229 --> 00:37:12,023
was I was wondering
why we weren't able
646
00:37:12,065 --> 00:37:15,610
to use our
own conservation
techniques.
647
00:37:19,114 --> 00:37:22,409
I'm a 200 generation farmer.
200 generation farmer.
648
00:37:22,450 --> 00:37:23,952
You know?
649
00:37:23,993 --> 00:37:26,055
And so alls I'm doing here is
I'm learning a new language.
650
00:37:26,079 --> 00:37:27,414
I'm learning how to speak
651
00:37:28,248 --> 00:37:29,600
in the language that
I've been taught here
652
00:37:29,624 --> 00:37:31,251
so that I'm able
to have the people
653
00:37:31,292 --> 00:37:34,087
on this side of the fence
understand where I'm coming from
654
00:37:34,129 --> 00:37:36,256
and at the same time
take some of the goodness
655
00:37:36,297 --> 00:37:38,425
that I see in science and
bring it back home too.
656
00:37:38,466 --> 00:37:40,385
It's a tough transition for me,
657
00:37:40,427 --> 00:37:43,054
and it's a tough transition
for a lot of Native Americans
658
00:37:43,096 --> 00:37:47,392
who wish to go into
the sciences,
because there's this...
659
00:37:47,434 --> 00:37:51,479
constant tensions that
exist within yourself.
660
00:37:53,148 --> 00:37:55,692
You want to help,
but at the same time
661
00:37:55,734 --> 00:37:58,153
you do not want to
exploit your culture.
662
00:37:59,154 --> 00:38:00,488
And so it's a balancing act.
663
00:38:10,415 --> 00:38:11,207
Is that on there?
664
00:38:11,249 --> 00:38:12,250
Let me see. Come on up.
665
00:38:13,001 --> 00:38:14,002
It's not coming up.
666
00:38:14,794 --> 00:38:17,339
(chattering)
667
00:38:20,675 --> 00:38:22,302
I wanted to
start off this
presentation
668
00:38:22,344 --> 00:38:26,473
by first giving you some-
669
00:38:26,514 --> 00:38:29,351
Ask you to take some seeds
off of this corn right here.
670
00:38:30,602 --> 00:38:34,147
What you're holding here is
not just corn, but it's life.
671
00:38:34,189 --> 00:38:36,316
This is the roadmap
that we're gonna follow.
672
00:38:36,358 --> 00:38:37,668
And this particular
map right here
673
00:38:37,692 --> 00:38:39,277
is called Hopi Prophecy Rock.
674
00:38:39,319 --> 00:38:41,488
This is the world that
we currently live in.
675
00:38:41,529 --> 00:38:43,406
And you'll a bunch of
people going this way
676
00:38:43,448 --> 00:38:45,742
up this path right here, and
you can see where it ends.
677
00:38:45,784 --> 00:38:48,328
And what this is telling
us, on a real short brief,
678
00:38:48,370 --> 00:38:49,996
is that a lot of us
are gonna move away
679
00:38:50,038 --> 00:38:52,582
from our traditional values
and our traditional system.
680
00:38:52,624 --> 00:38:55,168
And you'll see down here,
there's this old gentlemen
681
00:38:55,210 --> 00:38:57,671
with his planting
stick and his plant,
682
00:38:57,712 --> 00:38:59,130
and his plants through here,
683
00:38:59,172 --> 00:39:01,341
and this line
continues to go on.
684
00:39:01,383 --> 00:39:03,009
And so what this is
telling us down here
685
00:39:03,051 --> 00:39:05,512
is that if we if we believe
in our traditional practice
686
00:39:05,553 --> 00:39:08,181
and we pass it on to
the next generation,
687
00:39:08,223 --> 00:39:10,809
we'll be able to continue
on into the next world.
688
00:39:10,850 --> 00:39:13,436
The main reason why we're
having all these barriers
689
00:39:13,478 --> 00:39:15,814
is that Indians have
the right to occupancy,
690
00:39:15,855 --> 00:39:18,483
but they do not have the
title to their own land.
691
00:39:19,651 --> 00:39:22,153
People don't know
that, but we don't.
692
00:39:23,071 --> 00:39:25,365
We're trustees of the
federal government.
693
00:39:25,407 --> 00:39:28,535
And what is this whole ruling
based upon, this big ruling?
694
00:39:28,576 --> 00:39:30,704
It's based upon the
doctrine of discovery.
695
00:39:31,579 --> 00:39:34,416
That means that you
were discovered.
696
00:39:35,250 --> 00:39:36,376
That's our land now.
697
00:39:36,418 --> 00:39:38,253
You can live there,
but we still own it.
698
00:39:39,546 --> 00:39:41,548
So what is indigenous
agricultural knowledge?
699
00:39:41,589 --> 00:39:44,050
What we're saying here is
that it's applied knowledge
700
00:39:44,092 --> 00:39:46,720
for raising food and other
agricultural products
701
00:39:46,761 --> 00:39:51,182
that is grounded in indigenous
belief systems and practices
702
00:39:51,224 --> 00:39:54,227
which have been
time-tested
over millennia.
703
00:39:55,437 --> 00:39:57,313
I removed the word
"a" out of there
704
00:39:57,355 --> 00:39:59,399
because I'm not just
talking just 1,000 years.
705
00:39:59,441 --> 00:40:00,734
I'm talking millennia.
706
00:40:00,775 --> 00:40:02,402
So I'm talking to the
plural for of that,
707
00:40:02,444 --> 00:40:04,863
over 2,000, 10,000 years.
708
00:40:04,904 --> 00:40:07,157
So this is contour farming.
709
00:40:07,198 --> 00:40:08,366
This is what it looks like.
710
00:40:08,408 --> 00:40:11,369
This is keeping soil
erosion from happening
711
00:40:11,411 --> 00:40:12,871
by planting perpendicular.
712
00:40:12,912 --> 00:40:14,622
We've been doing the same thing.
713
00:40:15,457 --> 00:40:19,085
But unfortunately, these are
scientifically validated.
714
00:40:19,127 --> 00:40:22,130
These practices are not, so
we don't get funded for that.
715
00:40:23,631 --> 00:40:25,258
Makes no sense, right?
716
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,262
And I ask myself, well, who
came up with the method first?
717
00:40:29,304 --> 00:40:30,096
(audience laughing)
718
00:40:30,138 --> 00:40:31,348
You know?
719
00:40:31,389 --> 00:40:34,517
2,000 versus 75 years.
I wonder about that.
720
00:40:34,559 --> 00:40:36,120
There's a great guy out
there named Leopold,
721
00:40:36,144 --> 00:40:37,788
and he says that he's the
father of conservation
722
00:40:37,812 --> 00:40:39,272
or someone calling him that.
723
00:40:39,314 --> 00:40:41,524
I said,
"Well, that's your
opinion."
724
00:40:41,566 --> 00:40:43,294
A lot of our knowledge
has already been drafted
725
00:40:43,318 --> 00:40:45,612
and assumed a
different
type of name.
726
00:40:45,653 --> 00:40:48,490
"No till agriculture". We've
been doing that forever.
727
00:40:49,574 --> 00:40:51,618
There's a new one called
"regenerative agriculture".
728
00:40:51,659 --> 00:40:54,746
We've been doing that
forever. (laughing)
729
00:40:54,788 --> 00:40:56,373
Look the pictures right here.
730
00:40:56,414 --> 00:40:59,125
1901, 2015.
731
00:40:59,167 --> 00:41:00,502
Look at the continuity.
732
00:41:01,336 --> 00:41:02,504
It hasn't changed.
733
00:41:03,463 --> 00:41:05,799
You don't see a
$100,000 John Deere
734
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,717
14 row planter out there.
735
00:41:07,759 --> 00:41:09,469
You see little Hopis out there
736
00:41:09,511 --> 00:41:11,391
with their John Deere
hats and a planting stick.
737
00:41:11,429 --> 00:41:13,932
(group laughing)
738
00:41:13,973 --> 00:41:15,517
That's all you need, right?
739
00:41:16,851 --> 00:41:18,954
So this is what my whole
presentation is really about.
740
00:41:18,978 --> 00:41:20,814
It's about our survival.
It's about survival.
741
00:41:20,855 --> 00:41:23,316
It's about moving on
into the next generation
742
00:41:23,358 --> 00:41:26,945
so little kids can hold corn
like this 100 years from now.
743
00:41:28,363 --> 00:41:29,507
With that, I want to thank you.
744
00:41:29,531 --> 00:41:32,701
(audience applauding)
745
00:41:37,539 --> 00:41:39,874
(chattering)
746
00:41:44,963 --> 00:41:47,507
It was a very good
experience for me,
747
00:41:47,549 --> 00:41:51,970
but it was a
very grueling process
at times.
748
00:41:52,012 --> 00:41:56,474
It was almost as
though I had to prove
749
00:41:56,516 --> 00:41:59,769
that our techniques were valid,
750
00:41:59,811 --> 00:42:04,315
that our ancient conservation
techniques worked.
751
00:42:04,357 --> 00:42:06,609
So part of my thing and
part of that whole process
752
00:42:06,651 --> 00:42:08,445
was just bringing
the recognition back
753
00:42:08,486 --> 00:42:10,530
to the people who
originally founded it.
754
00:42:16,411 --> 00:42:19,372
(birds whistling)
755
00:42:30,842 --> 00:42:32,552
- We don't have
perfect knowledge,
756
00:42:32,594 --> 00:42:35,221
we don't have perfect science,
757
00:42:35,263 --> 00:42:37,849
but we've always been adaptive.
758
00:42:37,891 --> 00:42:40,477
I think Menominee's
history has been adaptive
759
00:42:40,518 --> 00:42:44,564
to resource management,
political ideas
760
00:42:44,606 --> 00:42:48,318
and learning how
to deal with them,
761
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,905
but also staying true
to cultural identity.
762
00:42:51,946 --> 00:42:54,282
And that's
the secret of
this place.
763
00:42:55,617 --> 00:42:59,746
This is an ancestral map,
before European settlement.
764
00:42:59,788 --> 00:43:04,542
And this represents about
15 million acres here.
765
00:43:05,752 --> 00:43:10,799
Between 1817 and 1856,
through land secessions...
766
00:43:11,883 --> 00:43:16,930
15 million acres shrank
to 234,000 acres.
767
00:43:17,305 --> 00:43:22,394
Of the 234,000, just about
all of it is managed.
768
00:43:29,984 --> 00:43:31,444
- The federal government,
769
00:43:31,486 --> 00:43:34,030
they felt that the best way
for Menominees to assimilate
770
00:43:34,072 --> 00:43:37,575
into the rest of society
was to become farmers.
771
00:43:37,617 --> 00:43:40,036
But overall, the interest
really wasn't there.
772
00:43:40,078 --> 00:43:42,664
(soft music)
773
00:43:44,082 --> 00:43:46,001
The Menominees, being
woodland people,
774
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,672
their real desire was to
keep their land forested.
775
00:43:51,506 --> 00:43:53,466
And with that being said,
776
00:43:53,508 --> 00:43:55,468
they petitioned with
the federal government
777
00:43:55,510 --> 00:43:56,970
to allow some harvesting
778
00:43:57,012 --> 00:43:59,472
of some of the live
trees on the forest.
779
00:43:59,514 --> 00:44:02,392
(birds whistling)
780
00:44:02,434 --> 00:44:07,480
- Back in 1908,
the Menominee
Tribal Enterprises
781
00:44:07,522 --> 00:44:09,983
was established in Neopit here.
782
00:44:10,025 --> 00:44:12,485
And basically it was put here
783
00:44:12,527 --> 00:44:16,781
to supply jobs for
the Menominee people.
784
00:44:18,450 --> 00:44:19,826
Before the saw mill,
785
00:44:20,827 --> 00:44:24,122
there wasn't very much
opportunities for employment.
786
00:44:24,164 --> 00:44:26,833
All the lumber
that's produced here
787
00:44:26,875 --> 00:44:28,835
comes from the Menominee forest.
788
00:44:28,877 --> 00:44:30,837
Menominee forest is operated
789
00:44:30,879 --> 00:44:34,007
on a sustained yield
management system
790
00:44:34,049 --> 00:44:37,802
actually advised
by Chief Oshkosh.
791
00:44:37,844 --> 00:44:40,930
He advised that if you
start with the rising sun
792
00:44:40,972 --> 00:44:43,641
and you cut to the setting sun
793
00:44:43,683 --> 00:44:46,478
and take only the sick,
dying, and the mature trees,
794
00:44:46,519 --> 00:44:47,997
and when you reach the
end of the reservation
795
00:44:48,021 --> 00:44:50,190
you turn back and cut back,
796
00:44:51,399 --> 00:44:54,527
if you do that, the
trees would last forever.
797
00:44:54,569 --> 00:44:57,530
(birds whistling)
798
00:45:00,408 --> 00:45:02,535
- Right now, currently
there's more standing volume
799
00:45:02,577 --> 00:45:05,914
of timber on the forest now
than there was back in 1854.
800
00:45:06,873 --> 00:45:11,002
So it is possible to have an
economic harvest to deforest.
801
00:45:11,044 --> 00:45:12,962
If you do it in a
sustainable way,
802
00:45:13,004 --> 00:45:16,174
the forest can replace itself
and you're not causing harm.
803
00:45:23,598 --> 00:45:26,601
(chainsaw buzzing)
804
00:45:36,111 --> 00:45:38,863
(tree falling)
805
00:45:40,448 --> 00:45:43,243
(chainsaw buzzing)
806
00:45:44,869 --> 00:45:47,539
(tree falling)
807
00:45:50,041 --> 00:45:54,004
What we're doing in this
section is a red oak salvage.
808
00:45:54,045 --> 00:45:57,173
We've had some problems with
the oak wilt fungus disease.
809
00:45:57,215 --> 00:46:00,510
If there's a damage to
some of the limbs on a tree
810
00:46:00,552 --> 00:46:01,761
the fungus gets in there
811
00:46:01,803 --> 00:46:04,597
and basically kills the
tree within one season.
812
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,243
If you're taking out
your low-quality trees,
813
00:46:07,267 --> 00:46:09,519
your better quality
trees are remaining.
814
00:46:09,561 --> 00:46:12,856
So we have trees on the
forest that are 150, 200,
815
00:46:12,897 --> 00:46:15,942
some even up to 300 years old,
and they're still healthy,
816
00:46:15,984 --> 00:46:18,486
so we don't consider
them for removal.
817
00:46:19,779 --> 00:46:21,614
As far as climate change,
818
00:46:21,656 --> 00:46:23,033
one of the things
that we do here
819
00:46:23,074 --> 00:46:25,785
is we have intensive
forest management,
820
00:46:25,827 --> 00:46:29,122
forest protection
strategy in place.
821
00:46:29,164 --> 00:46:33,126
What we try to do is curb any
outside threats and diseases
822
00:46:33,168 --> 00:46:35,128
such as oak wilt disease.
823
00:46:35,170 --> 00:46:37,797
(soft music)
824
00:46:39,799 --> 00:46:41,968
One of the ways to do that
is to have a diverse forest
825
00:46:42,010 --> 00:46:43,970
with all the pieces there.
826
00:46:44,012 --> 00:46:47,557
On Menominee we have over
33 different tree species,
827
00:46:47,599 --> 00:46:49,642
and we want to maintain that.
828
00:46:49,684 --> 00:46:52,270
Examples would be
our red maple trees.
829
00:46:52,312 --> 00:46:53,855
We have hickory in here.
830
00:46:54,773 --> 00:46:56,149
Nice basswood.
831
00:46:56,191 --> 00:46:57,609
And we have some
of the beech trees
832
00:46:57,650 --> 00:47:00,487
and other species
of aspen is in here.
833
00:47:00,528 --> 00:47:03,531
So it's all a combination
of trees growing.
834
00:47:05,325 --> 00:47:08,495
A lot of what you see
in an industrial forest,
835
00:47:08,536 --> 00:47:12,624
they usually are more concerned
with the value of timber,
836
00:47:12,665 --> 00:47:14,167
whether it be one species,
837
00:47:14,209 --> 00:47:17,003
like for example red pine
plantations in Wisconsin.
838
00:47:17,045 --> 00:47:19,673
You're putting all your
emphasis on one species.
839
00:47:19,714 --> 00:47:22,258
As far as a long-term
health management strategy
840
00:47:22,300 --> 00:47:23,885
it's not a good idea.
841
00:47:24,636 --> 00:47:27,847
Having a diverse stand of
forest like we do on Menominee
842
00:47:27,889 --> 00:47:30,975
is your best defense against
any outside problems like that.
843
00:47:33,228 --> 00:47:36,147
- It's more than just
timber on the forest.
844
00:47:36,189 --> 00:47:39,234
It's more than just the
dollar amount that you get.
845
00:47:40,068 --> 00:47:42,862
The trees offer a whole
bunch of other things
846
00:47:42,904 --> 00:47:44,906
that they don't put value on.
847
00:47:46,032 --> 00:47:50,704
And someday they'll put a value
on what that tree is worth
848
00:47:50,745 --> 00:47:54,624
as far as carbon sequestration,
clean air, clean water,
849
00:47:54,666 --> 00:47:58,169
erosion control, and all the
rest that has no dollar value.
850
00:47:58,211 --> 00:48:01,172
I think Menominees understood
that a long time ago,
851
00:48:02,173 --> 00:48:07,053
because the operations were
created not just to make money
852
00:48:07,095 --> 00:48:10,890
but to create jobs and
to maintain a community.
853
00:48:10,932 --> 00:48:13,018
And you maintain a
healthy community
854
00:48:13,059 --> 00:48:16,688
with all of these other
values into consideration.
855
00:48:19,774 --> 00:48:23,111
(laughing and shouting)
856
00:48:27,115 --> 00:48:29,951
(phone ringing)
857
00:48:40,795 --> 00:48:46,009
- Most companies will always
have a certain tree farm
858
00:48:46,051 --> 00:48:47,594
or something that they have
859
00:48:47,635 --> 00:48:49,596
and that they grow
certain species,
860
00:48:49,637 --> 00:48:51,139
and then they look
at the markets,
861
00:48:51,181 --> 00:48:54,684
and when the market's hot on
this species or that species,
862
00:48:54,726 --> 00:48:56,245
that's what they'll
harvest out of there,
863
00:48:56,269 --> 00:48:57,288
and then they'll put it out.
864
00:48:57,312 --> 00:48:59,272
We don't have that choice.
865
00:48:59,314 --> 00:49:03,735
We operate for the ecology,
for the ecosystems.
866
00:49:03,777 --> 00:49:08,865
So whatever they have planned
for regenerating the forest
867
00:49:08,907 --> 00:49:10,784
is what we get here.
868
00:49:10,825 --> 00:49:13,286
So that's what's
really the unique part
869
00:49:13,328 --> 00:49:16,915
about how this lumber
company operates.
870
00:49:16,956 --> 00:49:21,252
What we do here is we don't
get to choose what's coming in.
871
00:49:21,294 --> 00:49:23,213
The stuff is brought to us.
872
00:49:23,254 --> 00:49:24,923
We have to know how to use it,
873
00:49:24,964 --> 00:49:26,758
and we have to be very creative
874
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:30,136
as to how we're gonna turn it
over and turn it into money.
875
00:49:30,178 --> 00:49:34,808
We can't operate like the
capitalistic society does.
876
00:49:34,849 --> 00:49:37,644
It was always the land first
877
00:49:37,686 --> 00:49:40,313
(soft music)
878
00:49:40,355 --> 00:49:42,440
- Yeah, the millpond's
been here forever.
879
00:49:42,482 --> 00:49:45,151
I mean, I remember
when I was a kid
880
00:49:45,193 --> 00:49:49,739
swimming across the river
and climbing up on the banks.
881
00:49:49,781 --> 00:49:53,993
We used to jump off of
the log piles years ago
882
00:49:54,035 --> 00:49:55,203
when we were kids.
883
00:49:55,245 --> 00:49:58,415
Obviously we don't allow
that now. (chuckles)
884
00:49:58,456 --> 00:50:01,292
This is pretty much where
the process starts right here
885
00:50:01,334 --> 00:50:04,045
for breaking down
a log into lumber.
886
00:50:08,216 --> 00:50:11,386
(machinery whirring)
887
00:50:15,974 --> 00:50:17,726
A lot of people...
888
00:50:19,352 --> 00:50:21,896
take it for granted that...
889
00:50:22,731 --> 00:50:25,900
we have such a lush,
beautiful forest.
890
00:50:27,193 --> 00:50:30,321
And at the same time
they don't understand
891
00:50:30,363 --> 00:50:33,366
why MTE has these struggles.
892
00:50:34,534 --> 00:50:37,203
We need to take what
the forest gives us,
893
00:50:37,245 --> 00:50:38,997
and we need to make that work.
894
00:50:39,039 --> 00:50:42,167
(machinery whirring)
895
00:50:55,764 --> 00:50:57,515
We're gonna
be here for
another...
896
00:50:59,434 --> 00:51:02,187
seven generations, the
next seven generations.
897
00:51:02,228 --> 00:51:05,899
That's the goal is
to leave something
898
00:51:05,940 --> 00:51:08,401
for our children
and their children.
899
00:51:08,443 --> 00:51:11,237
And it's proven
over time, I think.
900
00:51:11,279 --> 00:51:13,406
If you look at a
satellite image,
901
00:51:13,448 --> 00:51:15,742
you can see the boundaries
of the reservation
902
00:51:15,784 --> 00:51:19,871
just because the lush
forest makes it stand out.
903
00:51:19,913 --> 00:51:24,334
And years ago, the
areas all around us
904
00:51:24,376 --> 00:51:26,544
were wiped out by lumber barons,
905
00:51:28,046 --> 00:51:30,256
just clear-cutting,
wiping it out.
906
00:51:36,054 --> 00:51:39,015
- "Napanoh pemecwan".
907
00:51:39,057 --> 00:51:41,434
That means "flows repeatedly".
908
00:51:41,476 --> 00:51:44,187
It's a description of
everything that's going on
909
00:51:44,229 --> 00:51:48,400
within the environment around
us, the natural environment.
910
00:51:51,277 --> 00:51:56,116
The lifeblood of the forest
is the river we have here.
911
00:51:56,157 --> 00:52:00,161
Everything revolves
around this body of water.
912
00:52:02,497 --> 00:52:05,625
The bad thing is that it
flows in from the north
913
00:52:05,667 --> 00:52:09,963
off of the ag fields, which
picks up a lot of accumulation
914
00:52:10,005 --> 00:52:14,342
of different types of chemicals,
different types of runoff,
915
00:52:16,177 --> 00:52:18,013
both natural and manmade.
916
00:52:19,431 --> 00:52:23,309
The benefits of this forest
that don't get recognized
917
00:52:23,351 --> 00:52:28,189
is this water, this hydrology
is cleaned by the forest.
918
00:52:29,107 --> 00:52:32,152
These benefits spread to
all the counties around us
919
00:52:32,193 --> 00:52:34,154
because of the river systems.
920
00:52:34,195 --> 00:52:36,531
The clean water that they enjoy
921
00:52:37,532 --> 00:52:40,410
is a result of this forest here,
922
00:52:40,452 --> 00:52:43,455
these complete intact
elder communities.
923
00:52:47,876 --> 00:52:50,503
(waves lapping)
924
00:52:53,214 --> 00:52:57,135
(singing in Hawaiian)
925
00:53:20,075 --> 00:53:25,205
- This is the eastern point
of the Big Island of Hawaii.
926
00:53:25,246 --> 00:53:30,293
So we come here for our
sunrise celebrations.
927
00:53:30,335 --> 00:53:32,671
And to honor the creation.
928
00:53:33,546 --> 00:53:36,007
But this would all
be considered part
929
00:53:36,049 --> 00:53:40,053
of religious ceremonies
of the Hawaiians.
930
00:53:40,679 --> 00:53:44,599
And of course, all of these
practices were outlawed,
931
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:49,562
outlawed and made
criminal here in Hawaii
932
00:53:49,604 --> 00:53:53,525
by the missionaries until 1978.
933
00:53:56,194 --> 00:53:59,447
"He moku he wa'a,
he wa'a he moku."
934
00:54:00,448 --> 00:54:04,077
It means "the island", "moku",
935
00:54:04,119 --> 00:54:09,124
"is a canoe", "wa'a",
"the wa'a is an island".
936
00:54:10,291 --> 00:54:12,127
We think of it as a canoe.
937
00:54:13,044 --> 00:54:15,005
We're in the middle
of the Pacific.
938
00:54:15,046 --> 00:54:16,548
You got to learn to get along.
939
00:54:17,382 --> 00:54:20,385
And everybody's got
to pull for the canoe.
940
00:54:20,427 --> 00:54:23,138
(gentle music)
941
00:54:25,473 --> 00:54:29,436
Agroforestry, contrary
to popular belief,
942
00:54:29,477 --> 00:54:33,231
is far from a new idea;
it's actually the old idea.
943
00:54:33,273 --> 00:54:37,569
People used to live off
tree foods, forest plants.
944
00:54:37,610 --> 00:54:41,031
In Hawaii the system was
called (speaking Hawaiian)
945
00:54:41,072 --> 00:54:42,449
which means "agroforest".
946
00:54:46,244 --> 00:54:49,956
Archibald Menzies, the
botanist and biologist
947
00:54:49,998 --> 00:54:54,127
with George Vancouver in the
original English expeditions,
948
00:54:54,169 --> 00:54:58,465
first recorded in his logs
to the Royal London Society
949
00:54:58,506 --> 00:55:01,968
the fact that he'd seen
agriculture in Hawaii
950
00:55:02,010 --> 00:55:04,971
like he'd never seen
anywhere else before
951
00:55:05,013 --> 00:55:07,640
and that these systems
were more abundant,
952
00:55:07,682 --> 00:55:12,145
more productive than anything
they had ever experienced
953
00:55:12,187 --> 00:55:13,480
around the world.
954
00:55:14,356 --> 00:55:17,317
He also added that the
only thing left to do
955
00:55:17,359 --> 00:55:20,487
is to make plantation
workers out of these people.
956
00:55:20,528 --> 00:55:23,740
The United States, through
the illegal takeover
957
00:55:23,782 --> 00:55:27,327
of Hawaii in 1893 to 1898,
958
00:55:27,369 --> 00:55:30,663
undermined Hawaii's
agricultural capacities.
959
00:55:30,705 --> 00:55:34,084
Hawaii moved into
this raging sugarcane
960
00:55:34,125 --> 00:55:36,002
monocrop production,
961
00:55:36,044 --> 00:55:39,631
as well as pineapple
monocrop production,
962
00:55:39,673 --> 00:55:43,134
wherein they totally
decimated the land.
963
00:55:43,176 --> 00:55:46,304
And organizations like Monsanto,
964
00:55:46,346 --> 00:55:50,350
they got a foothold in
Hawaiian in the 1950s.
965
00:55:50,392 --> 00:55:54,270
These indigenous practices...
966
00:55:54,312 --> 00:55:59,359
disregarded by the Americans
from 1898 to the present day,
967
00:55:59,401 --> 00:56:02,654
have led to the environmental
degradation of Hawaii.
968
00:56:07,701 --> 00:56:09,828
(sawing)
969
00:56:17,252 --> 00:56:19,045
We still have the memory,
970
00:56:19,087 --> 00:56:21,381
and we're working on
trying to reestablish
971
00:56:21,423 --> 00:56:22,841
those food systems.
972
00:56:24,384 --> 00:56:28,638
Food forests are designed to
capture water and hold water.
973
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:32,726
Food forests
survive in
droughts.
974
00:56:32,767 --> 00:56:37,564
Food forests survive impacts
during the great storm
975
00:56:37,605 --> 00:56:41,818
where agricultural fields in
two-dimensional lines do not.
976
00:56:41,860 --> 00:56:43,737
(soft music)
977
00:56:43,778 --> 00:56:48,575
The relational
interactive
component
978
00:56:48,616 --> 00:56:52,412
of the biology of a
forest is quite different
979
00:56:52,454 --> 00:56:56,124
than a garden or an
agricultural field.
980
00:56:57,292 --> 00:57:00,587
It was important that we work
with a residential zoning
981
00:57:00,628 --> 00:57:05,091
so that any experimentation
would be applicable
982
00:57:05,133 --> 00:57:07,844
to a household in Honolulu,
983
00:57:07,886 --> 00:57:11,389
in the larger, more metropolitan
984
00:57:11,431 --> 00:57:13,933
or suburban areas of the state.
985
00:57:15,310 --> 00:57:18,772
We're looking at trying
to positively impact
986
00:57:18,813 --> 00:57:21,441
single-family dwellings
987
00:57:21,483 --> 00:57:25,195
around food security
and food preparedness
988
00:57:25,236 --> 00:57:26,780
in an emergency situation
989
00:57:26,821 --> 00:57:31,534
for either a man-made
or a natural disaster.
990
00:57:31,576 --> 00:57:34,162
(soft music)
991
00:57:37,499 --> 00:57:40,460
When you look out over
the central plain,
992
00:57:40,502 --> 00:57:42,796
the northern central
plain of the island,
993
00:57:42,837 --> 00:57:47,634
these plains were once
covered with food forests
994
00:57:47,676 --> 00:57:52,138
and forest with timber
trees as high as 100 feet.
995
00:57:52,180 --> 00:57:57,268
These uplands were turned
over to some Englishmen
996
00:57:57,519 --> 00:57:59,938
who brought
in Scottish
cattlemen.
997
00:57:59,979 --> 00:58:04,651
They simply brought
degradation to these lands,
998
00:58:04,693 --> 00:58:07,362
and they called this success.
999
00:58:08,530 --> 00:58:10,448
(drizzling)
1000
00:58:10,490 --> 00:58:12,867
(chattering)
1001
00:58:44,524 --> 00:58:46,693
(raining)
1002
00:58:48,862 --> 00:58:51,698
(faucet running)
1003
00:59:02,417 --> 00:59:04,711
- Basically, we're
trying to revive
1004
00:59:04,753 --> 00:59:06,880
many of the practices of old
1005
00:59:06,921 --> 00:59:11,718
and getting people
to realize that...
1006
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,804
not everything is instantaneous
1007
00:59:14,846 --> 00:59:18,558
like going to the supermarket
and getting your food.
1008
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:20,018
It takes time.
1009
00:59:22,062 --> 00:59:26,775
Right now we have a group
harvesting kalo, which is taro.
1010
00:59:31,279 --> 00:59:35,950
Food forestry for me would be
integrating different crops
1011
00:59:37,452 --> 00:59:38,452
in...
1012
00:59:39,746 --> 00:59:41,915
family property,
1013
00:59:42,791 --> 00:59:47,754
so that you're not
raising just the one item
1014
00:59:47,796 --> 00:59:50,924
that you would want
for your family.
1015
00:59:50,965 --> 00:59:53,760
On our property with
my grandparents,
1016
00:59:53,802 --> 00:59:56,930
we have the kalo,
the breadfruit.
1017
00:59:56,971 --> 01:00:00,350
We also had bananas.
1018
01:00:00,392 --> 01:00:02,894
Several varieties of bananas.
1019
01:00:02,936 --> 01:00:04,896
A little bit of everything.
1020
01:00:04,938 --> 01:00:07,482
(soft music)
1021
01:00:11,403 --> 01:00:13,363
This right here,
1022
01:00:13,405 --> 01:00:15,949
this is 'olena.
1023
01:00:15,990 --> 01:00:18,827
To us it's 'olena,
but that's turmeric.
1024
01:00:19,661 --> 01:00:21,329
Right here.
1025
01:00:21,621 --> 01:00:24,958
This one has a
blossom and that's part of the
ginger family.
1026
01:00:27,836 --> 01:00:30,296
So there's
your breadfruit
right there.
1027
01:00:30,338 --> 01:00:33,508
You can see some of the young
fruits starting in on it.
1028
01:00:36,845 --> 01:00:41,850
And the uhi, or yam...
1029
01:00:42,434 --> 01:00:45,478
is that vine that's
creeping up on the tree.
1030
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,647
They're
actually working with
each other.
1031
01:00:50,775 --> 01:00:53,611
(birds chirping)
1032
01:00:55,780 --> 01:00:57,574
So you can see the
diverse planting.
1033
01:00:57,615 --> 01:01:01,619
So you've got the wauke,
the paper Mulberry.
1034
01:01:02,454 --> 01:01:06,082
Right here we've got
tea, the tea plants.
1035
01:01:06,124 --> 01:01:08,501
And we've got the breadfruit.
1036
01:01:09,878 --> 01:01:11,046
Bananas.
1037
01:01:13,506 --> 01:01:18,178
We had what was known
as the Breadfruit Belt,
1038
01:01:19,054 --> 01:01:22,724
which ran for a good 20 miles.
1039
01:01:25,143 --> 01:01:28,855
It was at least a
half a mile wide.
1040
01:01:28,897 --> 01:01:31,483
But then with the
coffee industry,
1041
01:01:31,524 --> 01:01:34,861
a lot of those trees
were taken down.
1042
01:01:36,738 --> 01:01:38,656
I think the differences
with monocropping
1043
01:01:38,698 --> 01:01:43,536
is you've just got this one
crop for acres and acres.
1044
01:01:43,578 --> 01:01:44,871
When I was growing up
1045
01:01:44,913 --> 01:01:47,665
and my grandparents
got into coffee,
1046
01:01:47,707 --> 01:01:52,170
there wasn't what we know
now is a coffee borer bug.
1047
01:01:53,088 --> 01:01:56,758
You lose your crop
or a good percentage.
1048
01:01:58,677 --> 01:02:03,723
And we believe that could
possibly happen to other crops,
1049
01:02:04,182 --> 01:02:05,809
possibly breadfruit.
1050
01:02:06,601 --> 01:02:09,396
That once you get
an infection in
1051
01:02:09,437 --> 01:02:11,731
and that's the only thing
that's growing on your property,
1052
01:02:11,773 --> 01:02:14,192
it's gonna go from one street
to the next to the next.
1053
01:02:14,234 --> 01:02:18,530
And pretty soon the entire
field could be infiltrated.
1054
01:02:20,865 --> 01:02:22,534
Whereas with the old...
1055
01:02:24,119 --> 01:02:26,204
the old systems where you had...
1056
01:02:27,622 --> 01:02:32,043
more diverse crops in
between your major,
1057
01:02:32,085 --> 01:02:33,920
say like the breadfruit.
1058
01:02:34,796 --> 01:02:36,506
It's supporting each other.
1059
01:02:36,548 --> 01:02:38,508
So you've got other
crops coming in
1060
01:02:38,550 --> 01:02:40,760
at different times of the year.
1061
01:02:40,802 --> 01:02:43,138
(soft music)
1062
01:02:46,725 --> 01:02:50,770
- The American industrial
complex spent 130 years
1063
01:02:50,812 --> 01:02:54,941
ruining the capacity of
the Native Americans,
1064
01:02:54,983 --> 01:02:58,236
all in an attempt to create
genocide on a group of people.
1065
01:02:58,278 --> 01:03:01,114
So it's time for the
United States to own up
1066
01:03:01,156 --> 01:03:03,575
to what it's been
responsible for
1067
01:03:03,616 --> 01:03:06,619
and to honor the
ways of the people
1068
01:03:06,661 --> 01:03:08,038
who were on the land before you
1069
01:03:08,079 --> 01:03:13,001
and incorporate those ways
into our everyday living.
1070
01:03:21,009 --> 01:03:23,595
(chattering)
1071
01:03:27,932 --> 01:03:30,143
(radio static crackling)
1072
01:03:30,185 --> 01:03:31,811
(chattering)
1073
01:03:31,853 --> 01:03:33,980
- Is that saw back here still?
1074
01:03:34,022 --> 01:03:34,981
- Oh, where did...
1075
01:03:35,023 --> 01:03:36,483
Rodney put it on
one of the trucks.
1076
01:03:36,524 --> 01:03:38,318
- [Man] He's probably
got it in mine.
1077
01:03:39,527 --> 01:03:41,946
- In California in a lot
of places, there is this...
1078
01:03:41,988 --> 01:03:45,825
there's a lot of fear around
fire, prescribed fire,
1079
01:03:45,867 --> 01:03:49,537
even fire in general,
and rightfully so.
1080
01:03:50,622 --> 01:03:52,290
It's understandable.
1081
01:03:52,332 --> 01:03:54,167
In a lot of
our teachings
traditionally
1082
01:03:54,209 --> 01:03:57,170
you build an understanding
around the world around you,
1083
01:03:57,212 --> 01:04:01,132
and you learn how to live
with fire and work with fire.
1084
01:04:01,174 --> 01:04:04,803
And it helps you, the
more you know about it,
1085
01:04:04,844 --> 01:04:08,848
the less fear that you have.
1086
01:04:08,890 --> 01:04:11,309
(soft music)
1087
01:04:21,986 --> 01:04:24,864
- The forest service is
starting to hear the land
1088
01:04:24,906 --> 01:04:26,324
screaming back at you.
1089
01:04:26,366 --> 01:04:28,052
Everything's burning up.
Hey, you got to do something.
1090
01:04:28,076 --> 01:04:30,829
You can't just control
everything like that.
1091
01:04:30,870 --> 01:04:33,057
You can't just take it over
and say nobody can touch this.
1092
01:04:33,081 --> 01:04:34,791
And you can't just tell
us that we can't do
1093
01:04:34,833 --> 01:04:37,002
what we've been doing
here for a long time.
1094
01:04:37,043 --> 01:04:38,312
'Cause it's gonna
mess everything up.
1095
01:04:38,336 --> 01:04:39,796
So we're all fix
the world people,
1096
01:04:39,838 --> 01:04:41,715
and we have ceremonies for that.
1097
01:04:41,756 --> 01:04:44,551
So we as K-1 firefighters
have this role.
1098
01:04:44,592 --> 01:04:49,055
When we come out on the
hill, we have a big job to do
1099
01:04:49,097 --> 01:04:52,183
as far as respecting
the place that we're in.
1100
01:04:52,225 --> 01:04:54,894
So that acorn stands come back,
1101
01:04:54,936 --> 01:04:57,063
or so that hazels
come back good,
1102
01:04:57,105 --> 01:04:58,982
or any basket making materials,
1103
01:04:59,024 --> 01:05:01,234
any issues that have
to do with safety
1104
01:05:01,276 --> 01:05:03,737
and where you're living at.
1105
01:05:03,778 --> 01:05:05,947
It's all revolving
around your family,
1106
01:05:05,989 --> 01:05:07,574
and that's our
perspective on it.
1107
01:05:07,615 --> 01:05:10,035
(soft music)
1108
01:05:14,622 --> 01:05:17,250
- Wind speed zero to two
1109
01:05:17,292 --> 01:05:20,045
from the
south southeast and
variable.
1110
01:05:20,086 --> 01:05:22,797
(gentle music)
1111
01:05:33,933 --> 01:05:36,728
- These trees are all
fire-adapted trees
1112
01:05:36,770 --> 01:05:40,398
burning from the
beginning of time.
1113
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:42,942
They become a fire
adapted forest.
1114
01:05:44,110 --> 01:05:46,363
Most of our gathering
materials are medicines.
1115
01:05:46,404 --> 01:05:49,032
The redwoods and some
of the pines and stuff
1116
01:05:49,074 --> 01:05:50,408
require fire to go through them
1117
01:05:50,450 --> 01:05:52,952
in order to open up and
deposit their seeds.
1118
01:05:52,994 --> 01:05:55,455
You can start to see the
difference in the trees.
1119
01:05:56,331 --> 01:05:57,933
You see it as we start
going through here,
1120
01:05:57,957 --> 01:05:59,310
we're gonna get these
indicator species
1121
01:05:59,334 --> 01:06:00,960
to tell us what
we're doing right.
1122
01:06:01,002 --> 01:06:02,420
The giant salamander.
1123
01:06:03,338 --> 01:06:06,174
I've seen species
that I'd never seen
1124
01:06:06,216 --> 01:06:10,387
on the river before,
except in our burn units
1125
01:06:10,428 --> 01:06:11,680
after we burned them.
1126
01:06:12,764 --> 01:06:13,764
It's pretty cool.
1127
01:06:16,685 --> 01:06:17,685
Add 'em up!
1128
01:06:18,478 --> 01:06:19,478
- [Men] Holding.
1129
01:06:26,861 --> 01:06:29,197
(chattering)
1130
01:06:30,365 --> 01:06:33,201
(fire crackling)
1131
01:06:37,205 --> 01:06:38,832
- That's the desired
effects right here.
1132
01:06:38,873 --> 01:06:42,168
You see how it's all along
the bed of the forest?
1133
01:06:42,210 --> 01:06:44,838
Consuming the leaf litter
and the dead and down,
1134
01:06:44,879 --> 01:06:47,215
not affecting the trees
too much right there.
1135
01:06:48,174 --> 01:06:49,467
Doing good work.
1136
01:06:49,509 --> 01:06:51,153
And the more prescribed
fire we get on the ground
1137
01:06:51,177 --> 01:06:52,971
around our communities,
the safer we are.
1138
01:06:53,013 --> 01:06:54,848
You take away
the available
fuel loading,
1139
01:06:54,889 --> 01:06:57,350
when wildfire comes around,
there's not that fuel loading
1140
01:06:57,392 --> 01:07:00,020
to just feed it in a
rip uncontrollably.
1141
01:07:00,061 --> 01:07:02,188
When it hits these areas
that have been treated,
1142
01:07:02,230 --> 01:07:05,025
there's not enough fuel
to feed that wildfire,
1143
01:07:05,066 --> 01:07:07,294
and it'll go out and these
areas, and we can defend that.
1144
01:07:07,318 --> 01:07:09,904
(soft music)
1145
01:07:13,992 --> 01:07:16,786
When it's opened up like this,
elders can still come in here
1146
01:07:16,828 --> 01:07:19,039
and collect those
resources right there.
1147
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:20,832
And if they can't get in there,
1148
01:07:20,874 --> 01:07:24,836
share that knowledge with the
kids, it gets lost in time.
1149
01:07:24,878 --> 01:07:26,296
So when we can open stuff up,
1150
01:07:26,338 --> 01:07:28,506
they can get in here and
teach the younger generations
1151
01:07:28,548 --> 01:07:31,217
the traditional practices,
and they can get in there
1152
01:07:31,259 --> 01:07:34,721
and harvest those cultural
and natural resources,
1153
01:07:34,763 --> 01:07:36,222
that knowledge never gets lost,
1154
01:07:36,264 --> 01:07:38,475
just keeps recycling
and repeating itself,
1155
01:07:38,516 --> 01:07:40,101
and it's all good work.
1156
01:07:44,439 --> 01:07:47,025
(chattering)
1157
01:07:56,534 --> 01:07:57,744
(clapping)
1158
01:07:57,786 --> 01:07:59,079
- Forest service!
1159
01:08:02,540 --> 01:08:06,044
CIBA
1160
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:08,338
Karuk Tribe
1161
01:08:08,380 --> 01:08:10,215
Parks, national parks.
1162
01:08:10,256 --> 01:08:13,009
(clapping)
1163
01:08:13,051 --> 01:08:14,886
- Following the
Smoke started out,
1164
01:08:15,470 --> 01:08:18,390
it started with the
group basket weavers.
1165
01:08:18,431 --> 01:08:21,059
And they joined together
and were having issues
1166
01:08:21,101 --> 01:08:23,895
with getting better
quality materials.
1167
01:08:23,937 --> 01:08:27,107
So Following the Smoke came
from following the smoke
1168
01:08:27,148 --> 01:08:28,358
by where it was burnt.
1169
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:31,778
So if you went following
the areas of the burn,
1170
01:08:31,820 --> 01:08:33,464
you were following the
smoke, and then we were able
1171
01:08:33,488 --> 01:08:34,948
to use those
materials
from there,
1172
01:08:34,989 --> 01:08:38,118
'cause the harvesting from
those particular materials
1173
01:08:38,159 --> 01:08:39,953
is a lot stronger for us.
1174
01:08:39,994 --> 01:08:41,454
Grows stronger,
grows straighter.
1175
01:08:41,496 --> 01:08:44,290
And we use 'em
for different like
baby baskets
1176
01:08:44,332 --> 01:08:45,166
for the hazel sticks,
1177
01:08:45,208 --> 01:08:46,310
so it has to be something strong
1178
01:08:46,334 --> 01:08:48,128
that we're gonna
keep our baby in
1179
01:08:48,169 --> 01:08:49,546
(chattering)
1180
01:08:49,587 --> 01:08:51,065
- [Woman] Shorter sticks
and your longer sticks,
1181
01:08:51,089 --> 01:08:52,483
and you'll go through this
process that I'm doing right now
1182
01:08:52,507 --> 01:08:54,467
which is just peeling it back,
1183
01:08:54,509 --> 01:08:55,885
because what you want to do
1184
01:08:55,927 --> 01:08:58,304
is you want to match those
peeled back ends together.
1185
01:08:58,346 --> 01:08:59,931
So if you
look closely at
this basket
1186
01:08:59,973 --> 01:09:02,100
you'll see that,
down the center,
1187
01:09:02,142 --> 01:09:04,144
there's actually
two sticks there,
1188
01:09:04,185 --> 01:09:06,646
and they're just kind of joined.
1189
01:09:06,688 --> 01:09:10,150
And I will purposefully
try to maneuver the sticks
1190
01:09:10,191 --> 01:09:11,401
so that they're laid flat.
1191
01:09:11,443 --> 01:09:13,611
- The fire for the
bear grass is also
1192
01:09:13,653 --> 01:09:15,113
comes back a lot stronger
1193
01:09:15,155 --> 01:09:17,365
If we go pick the
year after a fire.
1194
01:09:18,450 --> 01:09:19,993
It's stronger for our baskets.
1195
01:09:20,035 --> 01:09:22,162
So any of the color
in our baskets,
1196
01:09:22,203 --> 01:09:23,621
it'll come
back quite a bit
stronger,
1197
01:09:23,663 --> 01:09:26,249
and we can pull on it to
make our baskets finer,
1198
01:09:26,291 --> 01:09:27,459
finer work with that.
1199
01:09:29,127 --> 01:09:31,463
It's really important
while we pick and burn
1200
01:09:32,505 --> 01:09:33,607
that we're doing it culturally,
1201
01:09:33,631 --> 01:09:34,859
that we're doing
it in our prayers
1202
01:09:34,883 --> 01:09:36,092
before we go out and pick.
1203
01:09:36,134 --> 01:09:39,137
And that medicine goes
into when we leave it,
1204
01:09:39,179 --> 01:09:42,015
the medicine goes in it
when we have our baby in it,
1205
01:09:42,057 --> 01:09:44,142
so it all serves a purpose.
1206
01:09:44,184 --> 01:09:46,561
(chattering)
1207
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:50,315
(rocks tapping)
1208
01:10:00,658 --> 01:10:04,579
It was probably maybe since
I was a baby that I ate them.
1209
01:10:05,914 --> 01:10:08,875
I just always remember
loving acorns.
1210
01:10:08,917 --> 01:10:10,210
We eat the tan oak.
1211
01:10:10,251 --> 01:10:12,504
They're the sweetest
out of all of the acorns
1212
01:10:13,380 --> 01:10:16,091
(gentle music)
1213
01:10:19,552 --> 01:10:22,681
(chattering)
1214
01:10:22,722 --> 01:10:25,558
Long, long, long,
long, long time ago,
1215
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,395
very beginning of us,
we didn't have pots
1216
01:10:28,436 --> 01:10:33,525
and pans like this, or
the propane cook stove.
1217
01:10:34,192 --> 01:10:36,569
So we had to figure out how
we were gonna cook our food,
1218
01:10:36,611 --> 01:10:38,697
and this is how we cook it.
1219
01:10:38,738 --> 01:10:42,200
And there's nutrients
that come from the rocks.
1220
01:10:42,242 --> 01:10:43,410
It's acorn soup.
1221
01:10:49,082 --> 01:10:51,751
(fire crackling)
1222
01:10:57,590 --> 01:11:00,927
(gentle music)
1223
01:11:00,969 --> 01:11:03,555
- So really world
renewal ceremonies,
1224
01:11:03,596 --> 01:11:05,515
we don't really look
at it as religion.
1225
01:11:05,557 --> 01:11:07,142
We look at our survival.
1226
01:11:08,435 --> 01:11:10,103
And what are you
doing to survive
1227
01:11:10,145 --> 01:11:11,980
on this landscape over time?
1228
01:11:12,981 --> 01:11:13,982
You're managing it.
1229
01:11:20,321 --> 01:11:23,324
(crickets chirping)
1230
01:11:38,798 --> 01:11:40,234
Look at the ears on
this one right here.
1231
01:11:40,258 --> 01:11:42,469
They're starting to really
come out right here.
1232
01:11:42,510 --> 01:11:44,137
So this was planted in July,
1233
01:11:44,179 --> 01:11:45,990
and in another week or so
I'll be at a harvest these
1234
01:11:46,014 --> 01:11:48,016
and take them home
and eat these ones.
1235
01:11:48,683 --> 01:11:50,977
But that's a healthy
plant right there.
1236
01:11:51,019 --> 01:11:55,565
This is about a 160 days
without having any rain.
1237
01:11:55,607 --> 01:11:58,193
(soft music)
1238
01:12:01,112 --> 01:12:05,158
Our farming is deep into
our spiritual beliefs.
1239
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:06,576
When we don't farm,
1240
01:12:06,618 --> 01:12:09,120
you have the loss of
the nutritional benefits
1241
01:12:09,162 --> 01:12:10,997
of all the crops we
produce out here.
1242
01:12:11,039 --> 01:12:13,124
The fact of the
matter is the women,
1243
01:12:13,166 --> 01:12:16,002
they don't have the stuff
to make the piki in.
1244
01:12:16,044 --> 01:12:19,506
(bright guitar music)
1245
01:12:19,547 --> 01:12:21,192
They don't have the
traditional crops needed
1246
01:12:21,216 --> 01:12:22,717
to put on the table.
1247
01:12:24,135 --> 01:12:26,471
(chattering)
1248
01:12:43,321 --> 01:12:45,198
There was a
dissertation
looking at
1249
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:49,494
some of the feelings we
have when we don't farm.
1250
01:12:49,536 --> 01:12:52,372
And a lot of it
was
psychological.
1251
01:12:52,414 --> 01:12:55,709
And when you're not out here
working the land and your farm
1252
01:12:55,750 --> 01:13:00,755
and being a true steward, you
lose your sense of balance.
1253
01:13:03,591 --> 01:13:05,301
It's almost like all
these plants out here,
1254
01:13:05,343 --> 01:13:07,095
they've
become like my
counselor.
1255
01:13:07,762 --> 01:13:08,930
You know what I mean?
1256
01:13:08,972 --> 01:13:10,408
I'm able to talk to
them and speak to them,
1257
01:13:10,432 --> 01:13:12,100
and they show me things.
1258
01:13:13,101 --> 01:13:14,578
And so I'm not dependent
upon, like I used to be,
1259
01:13:14,602 --> 01:13:16,730
I used to drink a hell of a lot.
1260
01:13:16,771 --> 01:13:17,772
I don't do that no more.
1261
01:13:19,774 --> 01:13:23,069
Native people who have these
substance abuse problems
1262
01:13:23,111 --> 01:13:26,197
is a direct result
of being relocated,
1263
01:13:26,239 --> 01:13:28,575
losing their livelihood,
forgetting who they are,
1264
01:13:28,616 --> 01:13:30,827
and they go in to find
something to fill those voids
1265
01:13:30,869 --> 01:13:33,580
that would've otherwise
been filled by hunting,
1266
01:13:33,621 --> 01:13:35,206
by raising things.
1267
01:13:35,248 --> 01:13:37,834
Now that they don't have that
or they move away from that,
1268
01:13:37,876 --> 01:13:41,588
you have these big problems
on reservations now,
1269
01:13:41,629 --> 01:13:44,257
whereas if you were to use
these traditional systems,
1270
01:13:44,299 --> 01:13:46,843
you're able to plug
all those voids in.
1271
01:13:46,885 --> 01:13:49,429
All that loss of identity
that was taken away from you,
1272
01:13:49,471 --> 01:13:51,556
you're able to bring it back.
1273
01:13:51,598 --> 01:13:53,433
But we need to do it
sooner rather than later,
1274
01:13:53,475 --> 01:13:56,436
because once we forget these
things, then we forget them.
1275
01:13:58,438 --> 01:14:00,106
- When do we want it? - Now!
1276
01:14:00,148 --> 01:14:01,608
- What do we want? - Change!
1277
01:14:01,649 --> 01:14:03,360
- When do we want it? - Now!
1278
01:14:03,401 --> 01:14:06,112
- What do we want? - Change!
1279
01:14:06,154 --> 01:14:10,200
- People today are all
excited about climate change
1280
01:14:10,241 --> 01:14:11,534
and rightfully so.
1281
01:14:11,576 --> 01:14:15,121
People are rising up and
panicking in a sense.
1282
01:14:15,163 --> 01:14:18,291
They recognize
that this is
not sustainable.
1283
01:14:18,333 --> 01:14:22,295
That's a good thing that that's
happening, that reaction,
1284
01:14:22,337 --> 01:14:25,548
but it's gonna be imperative,
and it is imperative,
1285
01:14:25,590 --> 01:14:29,135
that these people
in these movements
1286
01:14:29,177 --> 01:14:31,179
that are beginning to grow...
1287
01:14:32,847 --> 01:14:36,393
look for and accept guidance
from indigenous people
1288
01:14:36,434 --> 01:14:38,311
who know how to...
1289
01:14:39,354 --> 01:14:43,608
adapt and respond to a
changing environment.
1290
01:14:44,526 --> 01:14:46,194
And we're still doing it today.
1291
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:48,780
And we will continue to do it.
1292
01:14:50,365 --> 01:14:52,534
We say until the stars...
1293
01:14:53,535 --> 01:14:54,577
fall.
1294
01:14:54,619 --> 01:14:58,164
(moving instrumental music)
1295
01:14:58,206 --> 01:15:01,960
(passionate percussion music)
1296
01:15:04,546 --> 01:15:08,383
(singing in foreign language)
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