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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:25,066 --> 00:00:27,902 (wind whistling) 4 00:00:48,256 --> 00:00:51,092 - We've been doing this for millennia. 5 00:00:52,010 --> 00:00:55,013 When I say millennia, that means more than one. 6 00:00:55,055 --> 00:00:57,724 No Western concept of conservation is that old. 7 00:00:57,766 --> 00:00:59,059 (soft music) 8 00:00:59,100 --> 00:01:02,228 People like Muir and these other conservationists, 9 00:01:02,270 --> 00:01:04,981 Leopold, they just thought nobody lived out here, 10 00:01:05,023 --> 00:01:06,358 a wilderness as a wilderness. 11 00:01:06,399 --> 00:01:07,484 That's not true. 12 00:01:07,525 --> 00:01:08,586 We've been in this part of the country 13 00:01:08,610 --> 00:01:10,403 for thousands of thousands of years. 14 00:01:10,445 --> 00:01:13,031 We know how to manage natural resources, 15 00:01:13,073 --> 00:01:14,240 and we need to talk about it. 16 00:01:14,282 --> 00:01:16,326 We need the true history of America. 17 00:01:16,368 --> 00:01:20,080 (soft orchestral music) 18 00:01:20,121 --> 00:01:23,750 - If we look at the quandary that we find ourselves in today 19 00:01:23,792 --> 00:01:27,879 throughout the West, we have ever increasing 20 00:01:27,921 --> 00:01:31,841 size and scale and intensity of wildfire. 21 00:01:31,883 --> 00:01:36,513 Humans have excluded fire from this natural system 22 00:01:36,554 --> 00:01:39,891 and have created unnatural conditions as a result. 23 00:01:40,809 --> 00:01:44,604 Fire is our relation, and we need to work with fire. 24 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,235 - Indigenous people of this country 25 00:01:50,276 --> 00:01:54,447 for a very long time, they've been managing the land, 26 00:01:54,489 --> 00:01:56,866 using cultural indicators, using cultural knowledge, 27 00:01:56,908 --> 00:02:00,286 using traditional stories, doing prescribed fire, 28 00:02:00,328 --> 00:02:04,457 using what they know is good for their places. 29 00:02:04,499 --> 00:02:07,794 (soft orchestral music) 30 00:02:07,836 --> 00:02:11,256 (bird whistling) 31 00:02:11,297 --> 00:02:13,425 - Part of what's wrong with America 32 00:02:13,466 --> 00:02:16,219 is that people don't understand that these forests 33 00:02:16,261 --> 00:02:20,306 that they aspire to pre-European 34 00:02:20,348 --> 00:02:24,811 were really a result of Native Americans... 35 00:02:24,853 --> 00:02:29,107 understanding the natural cycles that occur out there. 36 00:02:29,149 --> 00:02:32,152 (soft orchestral music) 37 00:02:32,193 --> 00:02:35,530 (buffalo herd rumbling) 38 00:02:39,325 --> 00:02:42,328 - As far as Indian people, buffalo in all their history, 39 00:02:42,370 --> 00:02:46,416 they were our economy, they were our food, our clothing. 40 00:02:46,458 --> 00:02:49,044 Then killed to near extinction. 41 00:02:50,337 --> 00:02:54,341 So bringing these animals back, not only are they healthy 42 00:02:54,382 --> 00:02:57,635 for eating but also for our spirituality 43 00:02:57,677 --> 00:03:00,347 and a big part of our culture, just making us whole again. 44 00:03:00,388 --> 00:03:03,016 It's a healing in that way also. 45 00:03:03,058 --> 00:03:06,436 (soft orchestral music) 46 00:03:06,478 --> 00:03:09,189 - Part of what they didn't understand, 47 00:03:09,230 --> 00:03:12,025 the original English expeditions, 48 00:03:12,067 --> 00:03:15,695 was that what they were looking at was in nature. 49 00:03:16,654 --> 00:03:21,659 It's nature in relationship with humans over 1,000 years. 50 00:03:25,663 --> 00:03:29,584 - [Leaf] The fact that we're still here today in any form... 51 00:03:31,336 --> 00:03:35,590 is a testament to adaptation and resilience. 52 00:03:43,181 --> 00:03:46,184 (crickets chirping) 53 00:03:59,114 --> 00:04:01,366 - My name is Michael Kotutwa Johnson. 54 00:04:01,408 --> 00:04:02,742 I'm a member of the Hopi tribe. 55 00:04:02,784 --> 00:04:04,577 We're located up in Northern Arizona 56 00:04:04,619 --> 00:04:07,622 about 90 miles northeast of Flagstaff. 57 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,584 We live in what they call a semi-arid climate. 58 00:04:11,626 --> 00:04:14,087 It's right in the middle of a big drought period, 59 00:04:14,129 --> 00:04:15,630 what they call extreme drought. 60 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,435 After my grandfather passed away, I started getting seeds 61 00:04:28,476 --> 00:04:31,604 from different people out here, and I started planting. 62 00:04:31,646 --> 00:04:34,441 Then what I did was I opened up more fields, 63 00:04:34,482 --> 00:04:35,734 because I wanted to plant more 64 00:04:35,775 --> 00:04:38,611 and increase the supply of corn that we had. 65 00:04:38,653 --> 00:04:40,071 And you can see... 66 00:04:41,239 --> 00:04:43,324 some of our beans that I had planted... 67 00:04:44,659 --> 00:04:47,120 are doing pretty good down here. 68 00:04:47,162 --> 00:04:49,247 They're starting to come up pretty good. 69 00:04:50,123 --> 00:04:53,293 These are called hatico. They're brown lima beans. 70 00:04:53,335 --> 00:04:54,478 So they're doing pretty good. 71 00:04:54,502 --> 00:04:55,754 They look pretty strong, 72 00:04:56,588 --> 00:04:59,132 'cause there's so much moisture in the ground. 73 00:04:59,174 --> 00:05:01,134 No irrigation, folks. 74 00:05:01,176 --> 00:05:04,679 (soft instrumental music) 75 00:05:06,014 --> 00:05:07,474 And you can see in certain spots 76 00:05:07,515 --> 00:05:10,643 the corn is starting to come up from about a foot depth. 77 00:05:10,685 --> 00:05:12,604 So in about a week, these will really be showing 78 00:05:12,645 --> 00:05:14,314 really good here. 79 00:05:14,356 --> 00:05:16,191 You know what I mean? Really good. 80 00:05:18,193 --> 00:05:19,361 It's a good day today, 81 00:05:19,402 --> 00:05:21,488 because you can see from these little ones, 82 00:05:21,529 --> 00:05:24,282 they've got little dew drops on them right here. 83 00:05:24,324 --> 00:05:25,492 These are our children. 84 00:05:25,533 --> 00:05:27,494 In the Hopi way these are our children. 85 00:05:27,535 --> 00:05:32,123 So today it's a good day, because I'm a daddy. (laughing) 86 00:05:32,165 --> 00:05:35,669 (soft instrumental music) 87 00:05:35,710 --> 00:05:39,172 (birds chirps) 88 00:05:39,214 --> 00:05:42,050 (metal clinking) 89 00:05:48,223 --> 00:05:51,184 I've had my own problems in my life like everybody else. 90 00:05:51,226 --> 00:05:54,604 Alcohol was my Achilles heel for the longest time, 91 00:05:54,646 --> 00:05:57,315 and I found a way to... 92 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,151 dispose of that. 93 00:06:00,193 --> 00:06:02,570 But I found a way out here to deal with that. 94 00:06:03,488 --> 00:06:06,616 When I was little boy, being dropped off out here 95 00:06:06,658 --> 00:06:09,119 spending some summers out here with my grandfather, 96 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:10,704 I learned a lot. 97 00:06:10,745 --> 00:06:14,207 But as I got older and I went through all my lifecycle 98 00:06:14,249 --> 00:06:15,351 and all my drinking and stuff, 99 00:06:15,375 --> 00:06:17,043 I was able to come out of that. 100 00:06:17,085 --> 00:06:19,045 And only came out of that because I got back into 101 00:06:19,087 --> 00:06:20,547 what I really love and enjoy. 102 00:06:21,381 --> 00:06:22,858 And I feel like a lot of people out here, 103 00:06:22,882 --> 00:06:26,052 if they would get back into farming and learn from this, 104 00:06:26,094 --> 00:06:28,555 they wouldn't have near as big of a problem out here. 105 00:06:28,596 --> 00:06:32,267 (soft instrumental music) 106 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,858 - Tradition tells us that we must have corn. 107 00:06:41,526 --> 00:06:45,739 So corn has been the main staple for the Hopi people. 108 00:06:46,573 --> 00:06:51,411 You have to have three years' supply of corn. 109 00:06:52,704 --> 00:06:55,248 Three years' supply of corn, 110 00:06:55,290 --> 00:06:58,877 because usually a drought lasts about three years 111 00:06:58,918 --> 00:07:01,129 And we've had some droughts out here. 112 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,759 The tradition was that their father was a farmer, 113 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,804 and he would make the kids grow up farming. 114 00:07:10,638 --> 00:07:15,560 Start them hoeing, planting with a planting stick. 115 00:07:16,936 --> 00:07:20,607 And every kid grew up on the farm. 116 00:07:20,648 --> 00:07:23,151 Today, no kid grows up on a farm, 117 00:07:23,943 --> 00:07:26,863 because their parents stopped farming. 118 00:07:26,905 --> 00:07:29,616 If you don't farm and grow your food, 119 00:07:29,657 --> 00:07:32,285 you lose your independence. 120 00:07:32,327 --> 00:07:35,580 But if you're farming and growing your own food, 121 00:07:35,622 --> 00:07:37,624 you don't need the government. 122 00:07:37,665 --> 00:07:38,665 So you're independent. 123 00:07:42,504 --> 00:07:44,148 - The Hopi farming, to me, the destruction, 124 00:07:44,172 --> 00:07:46,257 in just looking back at our history, 125 00:07:46,299 --> 00:07:48,176 was just the introduction of cattle. 126 00:07:48,843 --> 00:07:50,804 The federal government came in, 127 00:07:51,638 --> 00:07:53,973 and they thought that we could use these cattle 128 00:07:55,684 --> 00:07:57,185 and as a way to... 129 00:07:58,353 --> 00:07:59,437 do better. 130 00:08:00,313 --> 00:08:01,398 What it started to do 131 00:08:01,439 --> 00:08:02,917 by bringing in these livestock animals, 132 00:08:02,941 --> 00:08:05,151 it started bringing in the concept 133 00:08:05,193 --> 00:08:07,278 of what they call privatization. 134 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:08,655 So people felt like they owned it. 135 00:08:08,697 --> 00:08:10,824 It wasn't shared as readily as you would a crop, 136 00:08:10,865 --> 00:08:13,243 and therefore you had a concept of privatization, 137 00:08:13,284 --> 00:08:15,912 which, in my mind, broke down a lot of our society, 138 00:08:15,954 --> 00:08:18,248 a lot of our community bonds with each other. 139 00:08:18,289 --> 00:08:21,167 In a drought year like we've had the last two years, 140 00:08:21,209 --> 00:08:22,669 there's no way they can survive, 141 00:08:22,711 --> 00:08:25,588 so you wind up just drastically cutting back their herds, 142 00:08:25,630 --> 00:08:27,298 people selling their cattle. 143 00:08:27,340 --> 00:08:30,176 I'm out here just trying to not change the system, 144 00:08:30,218 --> 00:08:31,696 but I'm trying to hold on to the system 145 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,680 That's been existing for over 2,000 years 146 00:08:33,722 --> 00:08:35,849 and to encourage people to keep farming. 147 00:08:35,890 --> 00:08:38,977 (crickets chirping) 148 00:08:43,398 --> 00:08:46,568 So these are just some of the varieties that we raise. 149 00:08:47,902 --> 00:08:49,988 I would have to say this is probably America's 150 00:08:50,030 --> 00:08:51,656 original sweet corn variety here, 151 00:08:51,698 --> 00:08:53,700 because this type of seed is what they would find 152 00:08:53,742 --> 00:08:55,869 in some of these prehistoric dwellings. 153 00:08:55,910 --> 00:08:57,704 This is a red variety. 154 00:08:57,746 --> 00:09:01,416 And this is a purple, like a violet variety. 155 00:09:03,877 --> 00:09:06,546 These are just our blue corn varieties here. 156 00:09:06,588 --> 00:09:10,717 We create about 42 different types of dishes from Hopi corn, 157 00:09:10,759 --> 00:09:12,844 everything from puddings to soups. 158 00:09:12,886 --> 00:09:15,847 This is our blood in a lot of ways. This is who we are. 159 00:09:15,889 --> 00:09:17,891 When I was at Cornell University, 160 00:09:17,932 --> 00:09:19,851 when I talked about my corn, 161 00:09:19,893 --> 00:09:23,521 they said that I needed 33 inches of annual rainfall a year. 162 00:09:23,563 --> 00:09:25,982 Okay? They're planting depths were an inch. 163 00:09:26,024 --> 00:09:28,044 Our planting depths, because of the way our corn is, 164 00:09:28,068 --> 00:09:29,652 because that's where the moisture is at, 165 00:09:29,694 --> 00:09:33,239 can go anywhere from two feet all the way up. 166 00:09:33,281 --> 00:09:34,741 Over time, they've adapted. 167 00:09:34,783 --> 00:09:36,409 They have what they call a growing region 168 00:09:36,451 --> 00:09:37,660 called an epicotyl. 169 00:09:37,702 --> 00:09:39,412 It's the initial growing point comes out, 170 00:09:39,454 --> 00:09:40,914 and it's elongated. 171 00:09:40,955 --> 00:09:42,850 It has an elongated epicotyl, so it comes up from that. 172 00:09:42,874 --> 00:09:46,378 Whereas in hybrid corn, it's only about 173 00:09:46,419 --> 00:09:48,254 probably about an inch growing region. 174 00:09:48,296 --> 00:09:50,924 Ours is about two feet. It can probably go longer. 175 00:09:50,965 --> 00:09:52,759 I would imagine if I put it down four feet, 176 00:09:52,801 --> 00:09:53,718 it would still come up. 177 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,054 (beans rattling) 178 00:09:56,096 --> 00:09:59,766 (soft instrumental music) 179 00:10:02,644 --> 00:10:04,771 Dry land farming means that basically 180 00:10:04,813 --> 00:10:06,439 you don't use irrigation. 181 00:10:06,481 --> 00:10:09,526 We don't believe in irrigation. 182 00:10:09,567 --> 00:10:11,778 That's why these varieties are so drought-tolerant, 183 00:10:11,820 --> 00:10:13,321 because we don't irrigate. 184 00:10:14,823 --> 00:10:15,966 This is where I have my beans. 185 00:10:15,990 --> 00:10:17,367 You can see some of the beans 186 00:10:17,409 --> 00:10:19,327 that are starting to pop up out here. 187 00:10:19,994 --> 00:10:21,579 These white lima beans. 188 00:10:21,621 --> 00:10:22,831 (digging) 189 00:10:22,872 --> 00:10:25,333 Were clearing it down to where it gets moisture 190 00:10:28,837 --> 00:10:30,797 Five Lima bean seeds in there or so. 191 00:10:33,591 --> 00:10:36,469 These are like super seeds, you know? They've very tough. 192 00:10:36,511 --> 00:10:40,640 They're like us, and so, because they're like us, 193 00:10:40,682 --> 00:10:42,559 they survive like us. 194 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,394 Limited amount of water, 195 00:10:44,436 --> 00:10:46,062 a lot of nurturing, a lot of caring, 196 00:10:46,104 --> 00:10:48,398 a lot of community building. 197 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:49,816 This is about a foot. 198 00:10:49,858 --> 00:10:52,110 Conventional agriculture goes to about right here. 199 00:10:52,152 --> 00:10:55,071 That's what your planter is designed to go down an inch. 200 00:10:55,113 --> 00:10:56,113 That's it. 201 00:11:01,703 --> 00:11:03,872 (digging) 202 00:11:09,711 --> 00:11:11,588 Our early corn, we put in early 203 00:11:11,629 --> 00:11:13,673 to coincide with our home dances. 204 00:11:13,715 --> 00:11:16,801 That'd be sweet corn, yellow corn, different varieties. 205 00:11:23,725 --> 00:11:25,018 We don't get any rains here 206 00:11:25,060 --> 00:11:27,354 all the way from usually from April 207 00:11:27,395 --> 00:11:28,539 all the way till the monsoon, 208 00:11:28,563 --> 00:11:29,939 which is the last week in July. 209 00:11:29,981 --> 00:11:32,025 For us to grow things with only six to 10 inches 210 00:11:32,067 --> 00:11:35,862 of annual precipitation is amazing. 211 00:11:35,904 --> 00:11:38,031 (soft music) 212 00:11:38,073 --> 00:11:41,618 This year I put in about six different varieties of corn. 213 00:11:41,659 --> 00:11:42,887 You've got to grow them out every year. 214 00:11:42,911 --> 00:11:44,555 You try to go at least one row out every year, 215 00:11:44,579 --> 00:11:45,997 because the climate changes, 216 00:11:46,039 --> 00:11:48,541 and so, unless you do that, these plants won't adapt, 217 00:11:48,583 --> 00:11:49,751 they won't change. 218 00:11:49,793 --> 00:11:51,270 And when we're going through climate change 219 00:11:51,294 --> 00:11:54,881 throughout the globe, we need to have that biodiversity, 220 00:11:54,923 --> 00:11:58,385 because biodiversity can react and can adapt, 221 00:11:58,426 --> 00:12:01,137 just like we should, but they know how to do that. 222 00:12:01,179 --> 00:12:03,139 Those little seedlings know how to do that. 223 00:12:03,181 --> 00:12:06,518 We as human beings are forgetting how to do that. 224 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,687 These are the new generation. 225 00:12:08,728 --> 00:12:10,480 These have been geared to adapt 226 00:12:10,522 --> 00:12:12,440 to what they call climate change. 227 00:12:14,109 --> 00:12:17,195 (soft instrumental music) 228 00:12:17,237 --> 00:12:20,073 (river babbling) 229 00:12:36,798 --> 00:12:40,802 (speaking in Karuk language) 230 00:12:42,804 --> 00:12:45,432 - This right here is our country. 231 00:12:45,473 --> 00:12:47,100 This is where we were born and raised, 232 00:12:47,142 --> 00:12:49,227 just like our long ago people were. 233 00:12:50,145 --> 00:12:53,023 Our religion is survival in this place. 234 00:12:53,064 --> 00:12:56,067 Living in this place for countless generations, 235 00:12:56,109 --> 00:12:57,152 thousand of years. 236 00:12:58,820 --> 00:13:01,448 It's hard to say it's a religion. 237 00:13:01,489 --> 00:13:03,950 It's really management practices 238 00:13:03,992 --> 00:13:07,120 that have evolved in this place to survive. 239 00:13:07,996 --> 00:13:12,709 And fire, in our creation stories, 240 00:13:12,751 --> 00:13:15,879 there's always a recognition that fire has always been here, 241 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:17,922 it's always been a part of us. 242 00:13:17,964 --> 00:13:19,758 (soft instrumental music) 243 00:13:19,799 --> 00:13:22,761 - The Karuk people have lived here for thousands of years. 244 00:13:22,802 --> 00:13:25,638 And acorns for native people here 245 00:13:25,680 --> 00:13:29,100 were a staple of their life... 246 00:13:29,142 --> 00:13:32,270 of their diet, that was deer meat 247 00:13:32,312 --> 00:13:35,148 and all of these plants that are around us 248 00:13:35,190 --> 00:13:39,819 that yield different edible resources throughout the year. 249 00:13:39,861 --> 00:13:44,991 So in order to have those resources at a predictable time, 250 00:13:45,033 --> 00:13:48,620 in a predictable quantity, in a predictable area, 251 00:13:48,661 --> 00:13:53,750 you needed to have a handle on manipulating that vegetation 252 00:13:53,792 --> 00:13:57,671 to inhibit the plants you didn't want there 253 00:13:57,712 --> 00:14:02,092 and to encourage and basically fertilize 254 00:14:02,133 --> 00:14:04,302 the plants that you did want there. 255 00:14:06,054 --> 00:14:10,016 A lot of the burning had been done by women 256 00:14:10,058 --> 00:14:13,311 from a two mile radius around the village site. 257 00:14:13,353 --> 00:14:17,023 And that was to produce a fine grain mosaic 258 00:14:17,065 --> 00:14:20,193 being oak woodlands and grasslands. 259 00:14:22,070 --> 00:14:24,531 - They put fire on the ground, underneath the trees 260 00:14:24,572 --> 00:14:27,951 to burn up old acorns and leaves and duff 261 00:14:27,992 --> 00:14:31,955 to make it easier to pick the acorns when they fall. 262 00:14:31,996 --> 00:14:37,002 Also that smoke, putting that smoke up into the canopy... 263 00:14:38,044 --> 00:14:39,546 suppresses the bugs. 264 00:14:39,587 --> 00:14:42,340 What those women essentially were doing 265 00:14:42,382 --> 00:14:47,679 besides enhancing food sources, basketry resources, 266 00:14:47,721 --> 00:14:50,306 all the things that you needed to survive, 267 00:14:50,348 --> 00:14:54,561 at the same time, they were eliminating the risk 268 00:14:54,602 --> 00:14:58,231 of wildfire to their communities. 269 00:14:58,273 --> 00:15:02,152 Fires don't burn in the black, where fire has already been. 270 00:15:02,193 --> 00:15:05,155 That's how you put out fires with backfires. 271 00:15:05,196 --> 00:15:06,906 When a wild fire hits it, it goes out, 272 00:15:06,948 --> 00:15:08,742 because it runs out of fuel. 273 00:15:08,783 --> 00:15:13,663 When you have this constant, regular, low intensity fire 274 00:15:13,705 --> 00:15:17,083 being put on the landscape at this community scale, 275 00:15:17,125 --> 00:15:18,752 not a firefighting force, 276 00:15:18,793 --> 00:15:21,921 not anybody going out there to fight fire. 277 00:15:21,963 --> 00:15:23,757 Nobody was fighting anything. 278 00:15:23,798 --> 00:15:26,885 They were working with fire 279 00:15:26,926 --> 00:15:31,264 to enhance resources and protect their community. 280 00:15:36,811 --> 00:15:39,314 (somber music) 281 00:15:42,233 --> 00:15:46,029 - Fire suppression and exclusion with first colonization, 282 00:15:46,071 --> 00:15:47,947 diseases that decimated native populations, 283 00:15:47,989 --> 00:15:50,408 that limited severely there number of ignitions 284 00:15:50,450 --> 00:15:52,118 and the complexity of their stewardship 285 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,621 and agroforestry systems around fire use. 286 00:15:54,662 --> 00:15:55,830 And then you had settlement, 287 00:15:55,872 --> 00:15:57,791 whether there was direct displacement, 288 00:15:57,832 --> 00:16:00,710 native people being removed out of their villages, 289 00:16:00,752 --> 00:16:03,046 put on reservations and other rancherias. 290 00:16:03,088 --> 00:16:05,423 Then you had the destruction of that cultural fire regime. 291 00:16:05,465 --> 00:16:08,134 And then following that initial period of colonization, 292 00:16:08,176 --> 00:16:09,403 then there was a very strong emphasis 293 00:16:09,427 --> 00:16:10,804 on suppressing all fires. 294 00:16:10,845 --> 00:16:13,306 Whether they were lightning or they were arson 295 00:16:13,348 --> 00:16:15,642 or un-permitted ignitions, 296 00:16:15,684 --> 00:16:17,644 they were to be suppressed in the interest 297 00:16:17,686 --> 00:16:20,647 of timber resources and protection of communities. 298 00:16:20,689 --> 00:16:23,149 (somber music) 299 00:16:23,191 --> 00:16:26,152 - [Leaf] Suppressing wildfire or any fire 300 00:16:26,194 --> 00:16:29,114 was a really a policy mandate 301 00:16:29,155 --> 00:16:32,242 of those early first rangers here. 302 00:16:32,283 --> 00:16:35,245 They arrested people, put people in jail. 303 00:16:35,286 --> 00:16:39,791 So those ceremonial practices, the ritual fire 304 00:16:39,833 --> 00:16:43,837 that was part of our annual world renewal ceremony 305 00:16:43,878 --> 00:16:46,840 was outlawed and people were put in jail for it. 306 00:16:49,009 --> 00:16:50,176 (spirited music) 307 00:16:50,218 --> 00:16:52,012 - [Narrator] Wood for war! 308 00:16:53,722 --> 00:16:55,140 The Navy needs wood. 309 00:16:55,181 --> 00:16:58,143 They Air Forces need wood for troop-carrying gliders. 310 00:16:58,184 --> 00:17:00,186 We all need our forests, 311 00:17:00,228 --> 00:17:04,357 but the forest have a vicious public enemy number one! 312 00:17:04,399 --> 00:17:07,861 Fire, ruthless, devastating forest fire 313 00:17:07,902 --> 00:17:11,823 wiping out home, destroying critical war materials, 314 00:17:11,865 --> 00:17:13,908 taking its annual toll of lives! 315 00:17:15,410 --> 00:17:18,872 - [Leaf] We have 100 years of scaring people 316 00:17:18,913 --> 00:17:24,044 about the evil effects of fire and how fire is evil. 317 00:17:24,085 --> 00:17:28,173 Smokey Bear, one of the most effective propaganda campaigns 318 00:17:28,214 --> 00:17:30,216 that the world has ever known, 319 00:17:30,258 --> 00:17:35,263 has done such a good job of instilling fear of fire 320 00:17:35,764 --> 00:17:38,058 in the general populace. 321 00:17:41,770 --> 00:17:43,730 - [Leaf] And now you have a condition where 322 00:17:43,772 --> 00:17:45,148 we essentially haven't had fire, 323 00:17:45,190 --> 00:17:47,150 and then with increasing climatic conditions 324 00:17:47,192 --> 00:17:50,362 of temperatures, densification and build up a fuels, 325 00:17:50,403 --> 00:17:53,740 drought stressed, high fuel load, very dry forest, 326 00:17:53,782 --> 00:17:55,158 We see many conditions in the West 327 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,827 and particularly in California and Southwest Oregon 328 00:17:57,869 --> 00:17:59,847 that now we're saying we're having catastrophic fires 329 00:17:59,871 --> 00:18:02,248 or fires that are larger in extent and severity, 330 00:18:02,290 --> 00:18:04,209 more extensive and more damaging 331 00:18:04,250 --> 00:18:06,920 than has ever been in recorded history. 332 00:18:08,088 --> 00:18:10,507 But it's all built around fighting. 333 00:18:10,548 --> 00:18:14,344 Fighting fire, it's not a fight you can win, 334 00:18:14,386 --> 00:18:16,346 and it's not something that people 335 00:18:16,388 --> 00:18:17,889 should be trying to fight. 336 00:18:19,808 --> 00:18:22,769 How can we engage with fire? 337 00:18:22,811 --> 00:18:27,065 How can we embrace fire as a partner? 338 00:18:27,107 --> 00:18:30,276 Because that's what it is. It's the best partner we have. 339 00:18:35,990 --> 00:18:38,284 (clunking) 340 00:18:43,998 --> 00:18:46,418 (chattering) 341 00:19:02,100 --> 00:19:04,477 - My grandfather, he would kind of know, 342 00:19:04,519 --> 00:19:07,439 "Oh, I feel like I'm gonna burn today. It feels right." 343 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:08,940 I remember as a kid growing up 344 00:19:08,982 --> 00:19:11,317 and being like, "Is today a good burn day?" 345 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,403 And he'd be like, "No, it's too wet," 346 00:19:13,445 --> 00:19:15,321 or like, "No, not yet." 347 00:19:15,363 --> 00:19:17,323 And then he'd start feeling like you could just... 348 00:19:17,365 --> 00:19:18,575 He'd go out and he'd be like, 349 00:19:18,616 --> 00:19:20,827 "I think today's a good burn day." 350 00:19:20,869 --> 00:19:23,079 And he'd go out and he'd light a fire. 351 00:19:23,121 --> 00:19:25,331 And then sometimes it wouldn't go how he wanted, 352 00:19:25,373 --> 00:19:26,541 so he'd stop. 353 00:19:26,583 --> 00:19:27,810 And then he'd go back in a few more days, 354 00:19:27,834 --> 00:19:30,128 maybe he tried again, and maybe it was good, 355 00:19:30,170 --> 00:19:31,296 so he'd go for it. 356 00:19:31,338 --> 00:19:35,008 (light instrumental music) 357 00:19:37,218 --> 00:19:41,181 This is the Panamnik Tishawnik village area. 358 00:19:41,222 --> 00:19:43,516 We swim here. We fish here. 359 00:19:43,558 --> 00:19:45,185 We... 360 00:19:45,226 --> 00:19:48,104 We gather here ceremonially 361 00:19:48,146 --> 00:19:50,523 for the deerskin dances, for all the other dances 362 00:19:50,565 --> 00:19:54,110 that we've all kind of come to our whole lives. 363 00:19:54,152 --> 00:19:56,529 And this is all on your mind 364 00:19:56,571 --> 00:20:00,658 when you're standing just in this one spot. (laughing) 365 00:20:02,577 --> 00:20:05,413 (fire crackling) 366 00:20:09,668 --> 00:20:14,923 Traditionally, this place would have been burned... 367 00:20:15,423 --> 00:20:18,051 for many reasons, for gathering, 368 00:20:18,093 --> 00:20:22,389 for basket weaving materials, cultural reasons. 369 00:20:22,430 --> 00:20:25,058 In the larger picture of the country today, 370 00:20:25,100 --> 00:20:27,519 with a lot of these larger wildfires happening, 371 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,229 you can use cultural knowledge 372 00:20:29,270 --> 00:20:32,065 to drive a lot of these management practices 373 00:20:32,107 --> 00:20:36,611 that tie directly into protection and wildfire instances. 374 00:20:38,571 --> 00:20:40,407 There's a lot of history in these places, 375 00:20:40,448 --> 00:20:42,033 and there's a lot of history in places 376 00:20:42,075 --> 00:20:43,576 for my family as well. 377 00:20:43,618 --> 00:20:46,079 My sister lives here at the end of the road 378 00:20:46,121 --> 00:20:49,082 on the same residence where my grandma was raised 379 00:20:49,124 --> 00:20:51,584 and her parents lived. 380 00:20:51,626 --> 00:20:54,421 I know that people on this lane, especially, 381 00:20:54,462 --> 00:20:56,423 are really excited for the burning to happen, 382 00:20:56,464 --> 00:21:00,593 because they did experience the Dance Fire back in 2013. 383 00:21:00,635 --> 00:21:04,514 I was at my sister's house when the fire started. 384 00:21:04,556 --> 00:21:08,101 We were cracking acorns in her living room. 385 00:21:08,143 --> 00:21:09,662 And as soon as I walked out on the porch, 386 00:21:09,686 --> 00:21:12,355 there was just like this wall of flames across the street. 387 00:21:12,397 --> 00:21:14,357 And it was already in the canopies 388 00:21:14,399 --> 00:21:16,943 of all the Doug firs across the street. 389 00:21:16,985 --> 00:21:19,738 (somber music) 390 00:21:19,779 --> 00:21:22,282 - It was such a terrible year. 391 00:21:22,323 --> 00:21:27,412 We had like hardly any rain, no snow big time before. 392 00:21:27,996 --> 00:21:30,540 So it just took off. It came straight at our house. 393 00:21:30,582 --> 00:21:33,293 This little bitty bit of cleared land right here 394 00:21:33,335 --> 00:21:36,296 is what stopped the fire from taking all these other houses. 395 00:21:36,338 --> 00:21:37,839 A lot of people were like, "Dang, 396 00:21:37,881 --> 00:21:40,717 if you guys hadn't cleared your property out before the fire 397 00:21:40,759 --> 00:21:42,486 it probably would've lost the whole neighborhood. 398 00:21:42,510 --> 00:21:44,387 And so we were like we were really lucky 399 00:21:44,429 --> 00:21:46,473 because the tribe helped us do that at the time too, 400 00:21:46,514 --> 00:21:49,142 otherwise we wouldn't have been able to do it by ourselves, 401 00:21:49,184 --> 00:21:50,769 because I was like nine months pregnant 402 00:21:50,810 --> 00:21:51,996 when we bought the property. (chuckles) 403 00:21:52,020 --> 00:21:55,315 I wasn't much help to anybody at the time. 404 00:21:55,357 --> 00:21:58,151 So it's really good to see controlled burns. 405 00:21:58,193 --> 00:22:02,113 And then, yeah, one crew can take care of a whole area, 406 00:22:02,155 --> 00:22:04,657 versus having an army of firefighters coming, 407 00:22:04,699 --> 00:22:07,160 fighting a fire. 408 00:22:07,202 --> 00:22:08,661 I mean, when it gets to that point, 409 00:22:08,703 --> 00:22:09,996 yes, we gotta do, 410 00:22:10,038 --> 00:22:12,165 but you don't need to let it get to that point. 411 00:22:12,207 --> 00:22:14,668 (fire crackling) 412 00:22:14,709 --> 00:22:17,170 Personally, I'm a clinical social worker, 413 00:22:17,212 --> 00:22:20,674 and a lot of what I deal with with a lot of native people, 414 00:22:20,715 --> 00:22:23,176 we have a lot of trauma. 415 00:22:23,218 --> 00:22:26,012 We have really high rates of suicide and depression, 416 00:22:26,054 --> 00:22:28,640 and a lot of that has to do with the disruption 417 00:22:28,682 --> 00:22:32,602 of our culture and our religions and our way of living. 418 00:22:32,644 --> 00:22:35,355 And a lot of our problems that we have 419 00:22:35,397 --> 00:22:37,691 with the weather and climate change and everything 420 00:22:37,732 --> 00:22:39,776 is because of the same disruption, 421 00:22:39,818 --> 00:22:43,113 the same disruption of trying to make something fit 422 00:22:43,154 --> 00:22:44,531 a certain kind of box. 423 00:22:44,572 --> 00:22:46,452 And I think that's how a lot of Western cultures 424 00:22:46,491 --> 00:22:49,202 have been with non-Western cultures, 425 00:22:49,244 --> 00:22:52,038 and I think that's how they've kind of been with nature. 426 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,375 And so I think it's time to to learn from each other 427 00:22:55,417 --> 00:23:00,130 and meld better and bow to each other's knowledge 428 00:23:00,171 --> 00:23:01,172 in certain areas. 429 00:23:03,591 --> 00:23:06,428 (river babbling) 430 00:23:07,887 --> 00:23:11,224 - We use fire for a lot of things in ceremony, 431 00:23:11,266 --> 00:23:15,103 creating a ripple that calls the salmon up the river. 432 00:23:16,855 --> 00:23:20,567 The top of Black Mountain that would burn off, 433 00:23:20,608 --> 00:23:24,404 it drains into the Camp Creek watershed. 434 00:23:25,447 --> 00:23:27,741 And so at that time of year, 435 00:23:27,782 --> 00:23:30,243 you're kind of at one of the warmest periods 436 00:23:30,285 --> 00:23:32,162 for the river temperatures, 437 00:23:32,203 --> 00:23:36,207 and so when you burn off the understory 438 00:23:36,249 --> 00:23:37,667 and the small plants, 439 00:23:37,709 --> 00:23:41,087 you no longer have things using that surface water, 440 00:23:41,129 --> 00:23:45,091 so you have more cold water groundwater inputs 441 00:23:45,133 --> 00:23:46,593 into your streams. 442 00:23:46,634 --> 00:23:50,347 The smoke in the air reduces the heat, 443 00:23:50,388 --> 00:23:53,266 the radiant heat from the sun on the water, 444 00:23:53,308 --> 00:23:56,436 and so that contributes to colder temperatures 445 00:23:56,478 --> 00:23:57,604 in the river as well. 446 00:23:57,645 --> 00:23:59,564 And so just these little minute changes 447 00:23:59,606 --> 00:24:01,691 that happened based on the human activity 448 00:24:01,733 --> 00:24:05,278 in this ceremony of lighting that mountain 449 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,281 actually has scientifically valid connections 450 00:24:08,323 --> 00:24:09,908 to calling the fish up the river. 451 00:24:11,493 --> 00:24:13,912 (soft music) 452 00:24:20,669 --> 00:24:23,380 - Our religion we practice is Pic-ya-wish, 453 00:24:23,421 --> 00:24:25,590 translated as "world renewal". 454 00:24:26,424 --> 00:24:29,135 So the Karuk people were fix-the-world people. 455 00:24:29,177 --> 00:24:30,821 Today, we're gonna go down and we're gonna fish 456 00:24:30,845 --> 00:24:31,888 in Ishi Pishi Falls. 457 00:24:31,930 --> 00:24:33,264 It's very... 458 00:24:34,182 --> 00:24:36,768 It's very romantic in some people's eyes, 459 00:24:36,810 --> 00:24:38,895 very frustrating and others'. 460 00:24:38,937 --> 00:24:39,896 I'm both of those. 461 00:24:39,938 --> 00:24:41,898 I love it, that's my way of life, 462 00:24:41,940 --> 00:24:45,151 but the health of the river 463 00:24:45,193 --> 00:24:47,320 runs parallel with the health of the people. 464 00:24:47,362 --> 00:24:48,446 We need to put to action, 465 00:24:48,488 --> 00:24:50,657 the physical actions on the landscape. 466 00:24:50,699 --> 00:24:53,159 We've got to start cleaning the sacred trails. 467 00:24:53,201 --> 00:24:54,494 We've got to start igniting 468 00:24:54,536 --> 00:24:56,371 and cleaning the forest once again. 469 00:24:58,206 --> 00:25:01,418 Everything we do in our world the salmon benefits from. 470 00:25:01,459 --> 00:25:04,796 (soft orchestral music) 471 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,777 - So in our tribal ceremony is to fix the world. 472 00:25:27,819 --> 00:25:29,195 It's not just to fixed this creek 473 00:25:29,237 --> 00:25:31,197 or fix our family or fix our river. 474 00:25:31,239 --> 00:25:32,198 We want to fix the whole world, 475 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,200 because if things are wrong here, 476 00:25:34,242 --> 00:25:36,369 they're wrong on the other side of the world too. 477 00:25:36,411 --> 00:25:38,705 That's just the way the world works on the balance. 478 00:25:38,747 --> 00:25:41,875 So in our tribe, we knew that in fix the world ceremony, 479 00:25:41,916 --> 00:25:46,921 Pic-ya-wish, even a small group of people with great energy, 480 00:25:47,422 --> 00:25:48,715 great focus and pure thought 481 00:25:48,757 --> 00:25:51,676 can actually trigger the world, the earth, 482 00:25:51,718 --> 00:25:53,470 and put it back on its balance. 483 00:25:53,511 --> 00:25:56,348 (fire crackling) 484 00:26:03,688 --> 00:26:06,441 (wind whistling) 485 00:26:11,363 --> 00:26:16,409 (chanting in foreign language) (steady drumming) 486 00:26:39,808 --> 00:26:42,644 (crowd cheering) 487 00:27:00,995 --> 00:27:03,623 (calm music) 488 00:27:12,007 --> 00:27:14,843 (wind billowing) 489 00:27:30,025 --> 00:27:32,736 - So we've brought buffalo back here at Blackfeet. 490 00:27:32,777 --> 00:27:37,782 I think in 1974, we started to restore animals back to here. 491 00:27:38,867 --> 00:27:41,619 And there wasn't a real big... 492 00:27:43,538 --> 00:27:47,625 Interest, and I guess because buffalo had been gone 493 00:27:47,667 --> 00:27:49,544 from our culture for so long, 494 00:27:51,046 --> 00:27:54,132 being almost hunted to near extinction. 495 00:27:54,174 --> 00:27:57,177 So the biggest part of why our people... 496 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,013 have never seen them. 497 00:28:00,055 --> 00:28:02,932 So after they were killed to near extinction, 498 00:28:02,974 --> 00:28:08,021 making way for cattle for this country, things were lost. 499 00:28:09,564 --> 00:28:13,568 Our language, our way of religion... 500 00:28:14,194 --> 00:28:15,945 losing land. 501 00:28:15,987 --> 00:28:18,698 These animals here are my passion, 502 00:28:18,740 --> 00:28:20,575 bringing these animals back 503 00:28:21,409 --> 00:28:24,746 and returning that part of our culture. 504 00:28:26,706 --> 00:28:27,874 My name is Ervin Carlson, 505 00:28:27,916 --> 00:28:29,668 and I'm a member of the Blackfeet Nation 506 00:28:29,709 --> 00:28:32,671 and President of the InterTribal Buffalo Council. 507 00:28:32,712 --> 00:28:37,509 I'm here today to respectfully urge passage of H.R. 5153, 508 00:28:38,093 --> 00:28:40,136 the Indian Buffalo Management Act, 509 00:28:40,178 --> 00:28:42,389 to create a permanent tribal buffalo 510 00:28:42,430 --> 00:28:44,724 restoration and management program 511 00:28:44,766 --> 00:28:47,519 within the Department of the Interior. 512 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,063 Buffalo are sacred to American Indians. 513 00:28:50,105 --> 00:28:52,899 Historical records indicate that American Indians 514 00:28:52,941 --> 00:28:55,902 relied heavily on buffalo for survival. 515 00:28:55,944 --> 00:28:57,904 Buffalo provided us food, shelter, 516 00:28:57,946 --> 00:29:00,532 clothing and essential tools. 517 00:29:00,573 --> 00:29:03,410 In the early 1800s, the buffalo population 518 00:29:03,451 --> 00:29:06,037 in North America exceeded 30 million, 519 00:29:06,079 --> 00:29:09,082 and the American Indian population was near seven million. 520 00:29:10,792 --> 00:29:13,837 The military systematically eliminated buffalo 521 00:29:13,878 --> 00:29:15,588 to eliminate the Indians. 522 00:29:15,630 --> 00:29:17,590 In addition, westward expansion 523 00:29:17,632 --> 00:29:19,926 and the greed of non-Indian buffalo hunters 524 00:29:19,968 --> 00:29:22,929 reduced the buffalo population to 500 525 00:29:22,971 --> 00:29:26,099 and the Indian population to 250,000 526 00:29:26,141 --> 00:29:27,726 by the turn of the century. 527 00:29:28,810 --> 00:29:32,105 With confinement of Indians to reservation lands, 528 00:29:32,147 --> 00:29:34,941 Indians had lost their primary food source, 529 00:29:34,983 --> 00:29:37,068 lifestyle and independence. 530 00:29:38,737 --> 00:29:41,448 In 1991, a handful of Indian tribes 531 00:29:41,489 --> 00:29:44,534 organized the InterTribal Bison Cooperative 532 00:29:44,576 --> 00:29:47,787 to begin restoration of buffalo to Indian tribes. 533 00:29:47,829 --> 00:29:52,959 Today, the ITBC is comprised of 69 tribes 534 00:29:53,001 --> 00:29:56,629 across 19 States with 55 buffalo herds, 535 00:29:56,671 --> 00:30:00,008 collectively the largest herd in the United States. 536 00:30:05,180 --> 00:30:08,224 The buffalo are very good stewards of the land. 537 00:30:08,266 --> 00:30:10,477 They're a naturally migrating animal. 538 00:30:10,518 --> 00:30:13,897 They don't just to stay in one area and overgraze. 539 00:30:13,938 --> 00:30:15,106 They're naturally migrating. 540 00:30:15,148 --> 00:30:17,567 If they get enough room to roam, 541 00:30:17,609 --> 00:30:19,611 they'll move from area to area. 542 00:30:21,029 --> 00:30:24,240 The cattle and the other animals, they'll overgraze 543 00:30:24,282 --> 00:30:26,159 if you keep them only in one area too long. 544 00:30:26,201 --> 00:30:29,162 So you don't have to take care of them. 545 00:30:29,204 --> 00:30:32,582 They take care of themselves. They're very hardy animals. 546 00:30:32,624 --> 00:30:37,128 And we just had a real severe winter this past year. 547 00:30:38,129 --> 00:30:39,881 A lot of cattle were lost. 548 00:30:41,174 --> 00:30:44,135 But we didn't lose any buffalo to that weather. 549 00:30:44,177 --> 00:30:47,514 They just maintain, and they'll just turn their heads 550 00:30:47,555 --> 00:30:50,225 into the storm and go to it, and they don't... 551 00:30:51,726 --> 00:30:53,853 turn away and turn their tails into the storm 552 00:30:53,895 --> 00:30:56,064 like domestic animals will. 553 00:30:57,649 --> 00:30:59,025 - You think about the buffalo 554 00:30:59,067 --> 00:31:02,278 being the biggest climate change adapter 555 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,282 as an animal in the world, and I mean for centuries 556 00:31:06,324 --> 00:31:08,618 and thousands and thousands of years. 557 00:31:08,660 --> 00:31:11,871 Now we're in an age that they're gonna have to adapt to this 558 00:31:11,913 --> 00:31:14,833 and they can easily adapt because of their hair. 559 00:31:14,874 --> 00:31:17,711 Their hair is so different than a cow hide, right? 560 00:31:17,752 --> 00:31:19,295 It's four times more thick, 561 00:31:19,337 --> 00:31:22,632 but they also grow more hair for the winter. 562 00:31:22,674 --> 00:31:25,218 Then they shed it for the summer. 563 00:31:25,260 --> 00:31:29,556 And so it's just a natural insulator both ways. 564 00:31:29,597 --> 00:31:33,893 If you look at it economically, how many cattle do you lose? 565 00:31:33,935 --> 00:31:37,981 How much more feed do you have to feed the cow 566 00:31:38,023 --> 00:31:39,691 compared to a buffalo? 567 00:31:39,733 --> 00:31:41,651 And then the water situation too. 568 00:31:41,693 --> 00:31:44,571 A buffalo can go two and a half days without drinking. 569 00:31:44,612 --> 00:31:46,906 So they're just so much more resilient. 570 00:31:46,948 --> 00:31:48,074 (soft music) 571 00:31:48,116 --> 00:31:49,743 - Today we're gonna move them animals 572 00:31:49,784 --> 00:31:52,245 to the north side of the pasture. 573 00:31:56,291 --> 00:31:59,794 (buffalo herd rumbling) 574 00:32:27,989 --> 00:32:32,994 Like I say, them being gone so long, it was a real... 575 00:32:33,453 --> 00:32:35,330 reeducating our own people... 576 00:32:36,998 --> 00:32:38,333 to the animal. 577 00:32:39,834 --> 00:32:42,796 And it never really, really took off until, I would say, 578 00:32:42,837 --> 00:32:46,257 in the past eight years we started the... 579 00:32:48,009 --> 00:32:49,302 Iinnii Project. 580 00:32:49,344 --> 00:32:51,763 Iinnii is the Blackfeet word for buffalo. 581 00:32:51,805 --> 00:32:54,808 And we started having dialogues, 582 00:32:54,849 --> 00:32:59,854 meeting with elders, meeting with our young people, 583 00:33:00,188 --> 00:33:03,817 and just talking about the return of buffalo. 584 00:33:03,858 --> 00:33:07,946 (children shouting and laughing) 585 00:33:08,780 --> 00:33:11,157 (soft music) 586 00:33:13,868 --> 00:33:17,872 (speaking in Blackfeet) 587 00:33:32,721 --> 00:33:35,265 - I really learned in my life 588 00:33:35,306 --> 00:33:38,184 that if we were to teach our young anything, 589 00:33:38,226 --> 00:33:41,312 it had to be hands-on, it couldn't be from a book, 590 00:33:41,354 --> 00:33:43,356 and it couldn't be from lecture. 591 00:33:43,398 --> 00:33:46,860 They had to participate in actively. 592 00:33:46,901 --> 00:33:48,695 You could prepare them, 593 00:33:48,737 --> 00:33:51,239 but they had to actually participate in it. 594 00:33:52,323 --> 00:33:54,492 So the students... 595 00:33:55,410 --> 00:33:58,538 in the grades from kindergarten to the 12th grade, 596 00:33:59,831 --> 00:34:02,500 there was many needs that the students had, 597 00:34:02,542 --> 00:34:04,085 and their tribal identity 598 00:34:04,127 --> 00:34:07,839 was one of the most strongest need there was. 599 00:34:07,881 --> 00:34:10,258 (chattering) 600 00:34:11,926 --> 00:34:13,762 And they... 601 00:34:14,512 --> 00:34:17,349 just took to it like a duck to water. 602 00:34:18,183 --> 00:34:20,018 They wanted to know everything. 603 00:34:20,060 --> 00:34:23,355 (laughing and chattering) 604 00:34:23,396 --> 00:34:26,232 - Our sister tribes is Kainai and Siksika. 605 00:34:26,274 --> 00:34:29,152 And so none of them have a buffalo herd. 606 00:34:29,194 --> 00:34:32,238 So I started asking some of that elder ladies, 607 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,032 who I thought would probably have known 608 00:34:34,074 --> 00:34:36,076 how to butcher a buffalo. 609 00:34:36,117 --> 00:34:38,179 And I said, "Have you guys ever been to a buffalo harvest?" 610 00:34:38,203 --> 00:34:40,914 And they're like, "No, this is our first one." 611 00:34:40,955 --> 00:34:43,917 And that was kinda heartbreaking to me, 612 00:34:43,958 --> 00:34:45,335 that that was their first one, 613 00:34:45,377 --> 00:34:47,754 and they're like 80 years old. 614 00:34:47,796 --> 00:34:51,091 So that whole generations of not been able 615 00:34:51,132 --> 00:34:54,928 to even be part of that buffalo. 616 00:34:54,969 --> 00:34:57,806 (delicate music) 617 00:35:00,975 --> 00:35:03,978 (children shouting) 618 00:35:07,607 --> 00:35:10,151 - We have these songs with us yet. 619 00:35:11,069 --> 00:35:14,239 We may not have the ceremonies... 620 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,949 but the songs are still with us. 621 00:35:15,990 --> 00:35:20,286 And we need people know these songs. 622 00:35:21,413 --> 00:35:24,165 Because we're not going to be around all the time. 623 00:35:26,084 --> 00:35:27,293 I'm 90 years old, 624 00:35:27,335 --> 00:35:30,338 and I don't expect to be here another year. 625 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,135 Of our creator we ask to be with us today. 626 00:35:35,176 --> 00:35:38,304 Our ancestors, our people in the past 627 00:35:38,346 --> 00:35:41,307 have left us some things to follow. 628 00:35:41,349 --> 00:35:42,308 (shouting) 629 00:35:42,350 --> 00:35:44,269 We asked that you will direct us. 630 00:35:44,310 --> 00:35:46,521 (chanting) 631 00:35:57,615 --> 00:36:01,161 [Ervin] These animals took care of us in our beginning, 632 00:36:01,202 --> 00:36:02,579 in the old way. 633 00:36:02,620 --> 00:36:07,042 And now, in a new way, they're also taking care of us. 634 00:36:07,667 --> 00:36:10,003 And so we take care of them. 635 00:36:10,045 --> 00:36:12,297 (Singing in Blackfeet) 636 00:36:16,384 --> 00:36:19,179 (bids chirping) 637 00:36:37,238 --> 00:36:40,283 - We're on the University of Arizona campus. 638 00:36:40,325 --> 00:36:42,452 I'll be doing my PhD defense tomorrow 639 00:36:42,494 --> 00:36:45,580 to get to be a doctor in philosophy in natural resources. 640 00:36:54,714 --> 00:36:57,550 (soft music) 641 00:36:57,592 --> 00:37:01,221 I've been over here a little over 12 years now, 642 00:37:01,262 --> 00:37:05,141 and it's been a long road for a number of reasons, 643 00:37:05,183 --> 00:37:06,393 most of them personal. 644 00:37:06,434 --> 00:37:09,187 But what motivated me to get here 645 00:37:09,229 --> 00:37:12,023 was I was wondering why we weren't able 646 00:37:12,065 --> 00:37:15,610 to use our own conservation techniques. 647 00:37:19,114 --> 00:37:22,409 I'm a 200 generation farmer. 200 generation farmer. 648 00:37:22,450 --> 00:37:23,952 You know? 649 00:37:23,993 --> 00:37:26,055 And so alls I'm doing here is I'm learning a new language. 650 00:37:26,079 --> 00:37:27,414 I'm learning how to speak 651 00:37:28,248 --> 00:37:29,600 in the language that I've been taught here 652 00:37:29,624 --> 00:37:31,251 so that I'm able to have the people 653 00:37:31,292 --> 00:37:34,087 on this side of the fence understand where I'm coming from 654 00:37:34,129 --> 00:37:36,256 and at the same time take some of the goodness 655 00:37:36,297 --> 00:37:38,425 that I see in science and bring it back home too. 656 00:37:38,466 --> 00:37:40,385 It's a tough transition for me, 657 00:37:40,427 --> 00:37:43,054 and it's a tough transition for a lot of Native Americans 658 00:37:43,096 --> 00:37:47,392 who wish to go into the sciences, because there's this... 659 00:37:47,434 --> 00:37:51,479 constant tensions that exist within yourself. 660 00:37:53,148 --> 00:37:55,692 You want to help, but at the same time 661 00:37:55,734 --> 00:37:58,153 you do not want to exploit your culture. 662 00:37:59,154 --> 00:38:00,488 And so it's a balancing act. 663 00:38:10,415 --> 00:38:11,207 Is that on there? 664 00:38:11,249 --> 00:38:12,250 Let me see. Come on up. 665 00:38:13,001 --> 00:38:14,002 It's not coming up. 666 00:38:14,794 --> 00:38:17,339 (chattering) 667 00:38:20,675 --> 00:38:22,302 I wanted to start off this presentation 668 00:38:22,344 --> 00:38:26,473 by first giving you some- 669 00:38:26,514 --> 00:38:29,351 Ask you to take some seeds off of this corn right here. 670 00:38:30,602 --> 00:38:34,147 What you're holding here is not just corn, but it's life. 671 00:38:34,189 --> 00:38:36,316 This is the roadmap that we're gonna follow. 672 00:38:36,358 --> 00:38:37,668 And this particular map right here 673 00:38:37,692 --> 00:38:39,277 is called Hopi Prophecy Rock. 674 00:38:39,319 --> 00:38:41,488 This is the world that we currently live in. 675 00:38:41,529 --> 00:38:43,406 And you'll a bunch of people going this way 676 00:38:43,448 --> 00:38:45,742 up this path right here, and you can see where it ends. 677 00:38:45,784 --> 00:38:48,328 And what this is telling us, on a real short brief, 678 00:38:48,370 --> 00:38:49,996 is that a lot of us are gonna move away 679 00:38:50,038 --> 00:38:52,582 from our traditional values and our traditional system. 680 00:38:52,624 --> 00:38:55,168 And you'll see down here, there's this old gentlemen 681 00:38:55,210 --> 00:38:57,671 with his planting stick and his plant, 682 00:38:57,712 --> 00:38:59,130 and his plants through here, 683 00:38:59,172 --> 00:39:01,341 and this line continues to go on. 684 00:39:01,383 --> 00:39:03,009 And so what this is telling us down here 685 00:39:03,051 --> 00:39:05,512 is that if we if we believe in our traditional practice 686 00:39:05,553 --> 00:39:08,181 and we pass it on to the next generation, 687 00:39:08,223 --> 00:39:10,809 we'll be able to continue on into the next world. 688 00:39:10,850 --> 00:39:13,436 The main reason why we're having all these barriers 689 00:39:13,478 --> 00:39:15,814 is that Indians have the right to occupancy, 690 00:39:15,855 --> 00:39:18,483 but they do not have the title to their own land. 691 00:39:19,651 --> 00:39:22,153 People don't know that, but we don't. 692 00:39:23,071 --> 00:39:25,365 We're trustees of the federal government. 693 00:39:25,407 --> 00:39:28,535 And what is this whole ruling based upon, this big ruling? 694 00:39:28,576 --> 00:39:30,704 It's based upon the doctrine of discovery. 695 00:39:31,579 --> 00:39:34,416 That means that you were discovered. 696 00:39:35,250 --> 00:39:36,376 That's our land now. 697 00:39:36,418 --> 00:39:38,253 You can live there, but we still own it. 698 00:39:39,546 --> 00:39:41,548 So what is indigenous agricultural knowledge? 699 00:39:41,589 --> 00:39:44,050 What we're saying here is that it's applied knowledge 700 00:39:44,092 --> 00:39:46,720 for raising food and other agricultural products 701 00:39:46,761 --> 00:39:51,182 that is grounded in indigenous belief systems and practices 702 00:39:51,224 --> 00:39:54,227 which have been time-tested over millennia. 703 00:39:55,437 --> 00:39:57,313 I removed the word "a" out of there 704 00:39:57,355 --> 00:39:59,399 because I'm not just talking just 1,000 years. 705 00:39:59,441 --> 00:40:00,734 I'm talking millennia. 706 00:40:00,775 --> 00:40:02,402 So I'm talking to the plural for of that, 707 00:40:02,444 --> 00:40:04,863 over 2,000, 10,000 years. 708 00:40:04,904 --> 00:40:07,157 So this is contour farming. 709 00:40:07,198 --> 00:40:08,366 This is what it looks like. 710 00:40:08,408 --> 00:40:11,369 This is keeping soil erosion from happening 711 00:40:11,411 --> 00:40:12,871 by planting perpendicular. 712 00:40:12,912 --> 00:40:14,622 We've been doing the same thing. 713 00:40:15,457 --> 00:40:19,085 But unfortunately, these are scientifically validated. 714 00:40:19,127 --> 00:40:22,130 These practices are not, so we don't get funded for that. 715 00:40:23,631 --> 00:40:25,258 Makes no sense, right? 716 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,262 And I ask myself, well, who came up with the method first? 717 00:40:29,304 --> 00:40:30,096 (audience laughing) 718 00:40:30,138 --> 00:40:31,348 You know? 719 00:40:31,389 --> 00:40:34,517 2,000 versus 75 years. I wonder about that. 720 00:40:34,559 --> 00:40:36,120 There's a great guy out there named Leopold, 721 00:40:36,144 --> 00:40:37,788 and he says that he's the father of conservation 722 00:40:37,812 --> 00:40:39,272 or someone calling him that. 723 00:40:39,314 --> 00:40:41,524 I said, "Well, that's your opinion." 724 00:40:41,566 --> 00:40:43,294 A lot of our knowledge has already been drafted 725 00:40:43,318 --> 00:40:45,612 and assumed a different type of name. 726 00:40:45,653 --> 00:40:48,490 "No till agriculture". We've been doing that forever. 727 00:40:49,574 --> 00:40:51,618 There's a new one called "regenerative agriculture". 728 00:40:51,659 --> 00:40:54,746 We've been doing that forever. (laughing) 729 00:40:54,788 --> 00:40:56,373 Look the pictures right here. 730 00:40:56,414 --> 00:40:59,125 1901, 2015. 731 00:40:59,167 --> 00:41:00,502 Look at the continuity. 732 00:41:01,336 --> 00:41:02,504 It hasn't changed. 733 00:41:03,463 --> 00:41:05,799 You don't see a $100,000 John Deere 734 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,717 14 row planter out there. 735 00:41:07,759 --> 00:41:09,469 You see little Hopis out there 736 00:41:09,511 --> 00:41:11,391 with their John Deere hats and a planting stick. 737 00:41:11,429 --> 00:41:13,932 (group laughing) 738 00:41:13,973 --> 00:41:15,517 That's all you need, right? 739 00:41:16,851 --> 00:41:18,954 So this is what my whole presentation is really about. 740 00:41:18,978 --> 00:41:20,814 It's about our survival. It's about survival. 741 00:41:20,855 --> 00:41:23,316 It's about moving on into the next generation 742 00:41:23,358 --> 00:41:26,945 so little kids can hold corn like this 100 years from now. 743 00:41:28,363 --> 00:41:29,507 With that, I want to thank you. 744 00:41:29,531 --> 00:41:32,701 (audience applauding) 745 00:41:37,539 --> 00:41:39,874 (chattering) 746 00:41:44,963 --> 00:41:47,507 It was a very good experience for me, 747 00:41:47,549 --> 00:41:51,970 but it was a very grueling process at times. 748 00:41:52,012 --> 00:41:56,474 It was almost as though I had to prove 749 00:41:56,516 --> 00:41:59,769 that our techniques were valid, 750 00:41:59,811 --> 00:42:04,315 that our ancient conservation techniques worked. 751 00:42:04,357 --> 00:42:06,609 So part of my thing and part of that whole process 752 00:42:06,651 --> 00:42:08,445 was just bringing the recognition back 753 00:42:08,486 --> 00:42:10,530 to the people who originally founded it. 754 00:42:16,411 --> 00:42:19,372 (birds whistling) 755 00:42:30,842 --> 00:42:32,552 - We don't have perfect knowledge, 756 00:42:32,594 --> 00:42:35,221 we don't have perfect science, 757 00:42:35,263 --> 00:42:37,849 but we've always been adaptive. 758 00:42:37,891 --> 00:42:40,477 I think Menominee's history has been adaptive 759 00:42:40,518 --> 00:42:44,564 to resource management, political ideas 760 00:42:44,606 --> 00:42:48,318 and learning how to deal with them, 761 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,905 but also staying true to cultural identity. 762 00:42:51,946 --> 00:42:54,282 And that's the secret of this place. 763 00:42:55,617 --> 00:42:59,746 This is an ancestral map, before European settlement. 764 00:42:59,788 --> 00:43:04,542 And this represents about 15 million acres here. 765 00:43:05,752 --> 00:43:10,799 Between 1817 and 1856, through land secessions... 766 00:43:11,883 --> 00:43:16,930 15 million acres shrank to 234,000 acres. 767 00:43:17,305 --> 00:43:22,394 Of the 234,000, just about all of it is managed. 768 00:43:29,984 --> 00:43:31,444 - The federal government, 769 00:43:31,486 --> 00:43:34,030 they felt that the best way for Menominees to assimilate 770 00:43:34,072 --> 00:43:37,575 into the rest of society was to become farmers. 771 00:43:37,617 --> 00:43:40,036 But overall, the interest really wasn't there. 772 00:43:40,078 --> 00:43:42,664 (soft music) 773 00:43:44,082 --> 00:43:46,001 The Menominees, being woodland people, 774 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,672 their real desire was to keep their land forested. 775 00:43:51,506 --> 00:43:53,466 And with that being said, 776 00:43:53,508 --> 00:43:55,468 they petitioned with the federal government 777 00:43:55,510 --> 00:43:56,970 to allow some harvesting 778 00:43:57,012 --> 00:43:59,472 of some of the live trees on the forest. 779 00:43:59,514 --> 00:44:02,392 (birds whistling) 780 00:44:02,434 --> 00:44:07,480 - Back in 1908, the Menominee Tribal Enterprises 781 00:44:07,522 --> 00:44:09,983 was established in Neopit here. 782 00:44:10,025 --> 00:44:12,485 And basically it was put here 783 00:44:12,527 --> 00:44:16,781 to supply jobs for the Menominee people. 784 00:44:18,450 --> 00:44:19,826 Before the saw mill, 785 00:44:20,827 --> 00:44:24,122 there wasn't very much opportunities for employment. 786 00:44:24,164 --> 00:44:26,833 All the lumber that's produced here 787 00:44:26,875 --> 00:44:28,835 comes from the Menominee forest. 788 00:44:28,877 --> 00:44:30,837 Menominee forest is operated 789 00:44:30,879 --> 00:44:34,007 on a sustained yield management system 790 00:44:34,049 --> 00:44:37,802 actually advised by Chief Oshkosh. 791 00:44:37,844 --> 00:44:40,930 He advised that if you start with the rising sun 792 00:44:40,972 --> 00:44:43,641 and you cut to the setting sun 793 00:44:43,683 --> 00:44:46,478 and take only the sick, dying, and the mature trees, 794 00:44:46,519 --> 00:44:47,997 and when you reach the end of the reservation 795 00:44:48,021 --> 00:44:50,190 you turn back and cut back, 796 00:44:51,399 --> 00:44:54,527 if you do that, the trees would last forever. 797 00:44:54,569 --> 00:44:57,530 (birds whistling) 798 00:45:00,408 --> 00:45:02,535 - Right now, currently there's more standing volume 799 00:45:02,577 --> 00:45:05,914 of timber on the forest now than there was back in 1854. 800 00:45:06,873 --> 00:45:11,002 So it is possible to have an economic harvest to deforest. 801 00:45:11,044 --> 00:45:12,962 If you do it in a sustainable way, 802 00:45:13,004 --> 00:45:16,174 the forest can replace itself and you're not causing harm. 803 00:45:23,598 --> 00:45:26,601 (chainsaw buzzing) 804 00:45:36,111 --> 00:45:38,863 (tree falling) 805 00:45:40,448 --> 00:45:43,243 (chainsaw buzzing) 806 00:45:44,869 --> 00:45:47,539 (tree falling) 807 00:45:50,041 --> 00:45:54,004 What we're doing in this section is a red oak salvage. 808 00:45:54,045 --> 00:45:57,173 We've had some problems with the oak wilt fungus disease. 809 00:45:57,215 --> 00:46:00,510 If there's a damage to some of the limbs on a tree 810 00:46:00,552 --> 00:46:01,761 the fungus gets in there 811 00:46:01,803 --> 00:46:04,597 and basically kills the tree within one season. 812 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,243 If you're taking out your low-quality trees, 813 00:46:07,267 --> 00:46:09,519 your better quality trees are remaining. 814 00:46:09,561 --> 00:46:12,856 So we have trees on the forest that are 150, 200, 815 00:46:12,897 --> 00:46:15,942 some even up to 300 years old, and they're still healthy, 816 00:46:15,984 --> 00:46:18,486 so we don't consider them for removal. 817 00:46:19,779 --> 00:46:21,614 As far as climate change, 818 00:46:21,656 --> 00:46:23,033 one of the things that we do here 819 00:46:23,074 --> 00:46:25,785 is we have intensive forest management, 820 00:46:25,827 --> 00:46:29,122 forest protection strategy in place. 821 00:46:29,164 --> 00:46:33,126 What we try to do is curb any outside threats and diseases 822 00:46:33,168 --> 00:46:35,128 such as oak wilt disease. 823 00:46:35,170 --> 00:46:37,797 (soft music) 824 00:46:39,799 --> 00:46:41,968 One of the ways to do that is to have a diverse forest 825 00:46:42,010 --> 00:46:43,970 with all the pieces there. 826 00:46:44,012 --> 00:46:47,557 On Menominee we have over 33 different tree species, 827 00:46:47,599 --> 00:46:49,642 and we want to maintain that. 828 00:46:49,684 --> 00:46:52,270 Examples would be our red maple trees. 829 00:46:52,312 --> 00:46:53,855 We have hickory in here. 830 00:46:54,773 --> 00:46:56,149 Nice basswood. 831 00:46:56,191 --> 00:46:57,609 And we have some of the beech trees 832 00:46:57,650 --> 00:47:00,487 and other species of aspen is in here. 833 00:47:00,528 --> 00:47:03,531 So it's all a combination of trees growing. 834 00:47:05,325 --> 00:47:08,495 A lot of what you see in an industrial forest, 835 00:47:08,536 --> 00:47:12,624 they usually are more concerned with the value of timber, 836 00:47:12,665 --> 00:47:14,167 whether it be one species, 837 00:47:14,209 --> 00:47:17,003 like for example red pine plantations in Wisconsin. 838 00:47:17,045 --> 00:47:19,673 You're putting all your emphasis on one species. 839 00:47:19,714 --> 00:47:22,258 As far as a long-term health management strategy 840 00:47:22,300 --> 00:47:23,885 it's not a good idea. 841 00:47:24,636 --> 00:47:27,847 Having a diverse stand of forest like we do on Menominee 842 00:47:27,889 --> 00:47:30,975 is your best defense against any outside problems like that. 843 00:47:33,228 --> 00:47:36,147 - It's more than just timber on the forest. 844 00:47:36,189 --> 00:47:39,234 It's more than just the dollar amount that you get. 845 00:47:40,068 --> 00:47:42,862 The trees offer a whole bunch of other things 846 00:47:42,904 --> 00:47:44,906 that they don't put value on. 847 00:47:46,032 --> 00:47:50,704 And someday they'll put a value on what that tree is worth 848 00:47:50,745 --> 00:47:54,624 as far as carbon sequestration, clean air, clean water, 849 00:47:54,666 --> 00:47:58,169 erosion control, and all the rest that has no dollar value. 850 00:47:58,211 --> 00:48:01,172 I think Menominees understood that a long time ago, 851 00:48:02,173 --> 00:48:07,053 because the operations were created not just to make money 852 00:48:07,095 --> 00:48:10,890 but to create jobs and to maintain a community. 853 00:48:10,932 --> 00:48:13,018 And you maintain a healthy community 854 00:48:13,059 --> 00:48:16,688 with all of these other values into consideration. 855 00:48:19,774 --> 00:48:23,111 (laughing and shouting) 856 00:48:27,115 --> 00:48:29,951 (phone ringing) 857 00:48:40,795 --> 00:48:46,009 - Most companies will always have a certain tree farm 858 00:48:46,051 --> 00:48:47,594 or something that they have 859 00:48:47,635 --> 00:48:49,596 and that they grow certain species, 860 00:48:49,637 --> 00:48:51,139 and then they look at the markets, 861 00:48:51,181 --> 00:48:54,684 and when the market's hot on this species or that species, 862 00:48:54,726 --> 00:48:56,245 that's what they'll harvest out of there, 863 00:48:56,269 --> 00:48:57,288 and then they'll put it out. 864 00:48:57,312 --> 00:48:59,272 We don't have that choice. 865 00:48:59,314 --> 00:49:03,735 We operate for the ecology, for the ecosystems. 866 00:49:03,777 --> 00:49:08,865 So whatever they have planned for regenerating the forest 867 00:49:08,907 --> 00:49:10,784 is what we get here. 868 00:49:10,825 --> 00:49:13,286 So that's what's really the unique part 869 00:49:13,328 --> 00:49:16,915 about how this lumber company operates. 870 00:49:16,956 --> 00:49:21,252 What we do here is we don't get to choose what's coming in. 871 00:49:21,294 --> 00:49:23,213 The stuff is brought to us. 872 00:49:23,254 --> 00:49:24,923 We have to know how to use it, 873 00:49:24,964 --> 00:49:26,758 and we have to be very creative 874 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:30,136 as to how we're gonna turn it over and turn it into money. 875 00:49:30,178 --> 00:49:34,808 We can't operate like the capitalistic society does. 876 00:49:34,849 --> 00:49:37,644 It was always the land first 877 00:49:37,686 --> 00:49:40,313 (soft music) 878 00:49:40,355 --> 00:49:42,440 - Yeah, the millpond's been here forever. 879 00:49:42,482 --> 00:49:45,151 I mean, I remember when I was a kid 880 00:49:45,193 --> 00:49:49,739 swimming across the river and climbing up on the banks. 881 00:49:49,781 --> 00:49:53,993 We used to jump off of the log piles years ago 882 00:49:54,035 --> 00:49:55,203 when we were kids. 883 00:49:55,245 --> 00:49:58,415 Obviously we don't allow that now. (chuckles) 884 00:49:58,456 --> 00:50:01,292 This is pretty much where the process starts right here 885 00:50:01,334 --> 00:50:04,045 for breaking down a log into lumber. 886 00:50:08,216 --> 00:50:11,386 (machinery whirring) 887 00:50:15,974 --> 00:50:17,726 A lot of people... 888 00:50:19,352 --> 00:50:21,896 take it for granted that... 889 00:50:22,731 --> 00:50:25,900 we have such a lush, beautiful forest. 890 00:50:27,193 --> 00:50:30,321 And at the same time they don't understand 891 00:50:30,363 --> 00:50:33,366 why MTE has these struggles. 892 00:50:34,534 --> 00:50:37,203 We need to take what the forest gives us, 893 00:50:37,245 --> 00:50:38,997 and we need to make that work. 894 00:50:39,039 --> 00:50:42,167 (machinery whirring) 895 00:50:55,764 --> 00:50:57,515 We're gonna be here for another... 896 00:50:59,434 --> 00:51:02,187 seven generations, the next seven generations. 897 00:51:02,228 --> 00:51:05,899 That's the goal is to leave something 898 00:51:05,940 --> 00:51:08,401 for our children and their children. 899 00:51:08,443 --> 00:51:11,237 And it's proven over time, I think. 900 00:51:11,279 --> 00:51:13,406 If you look at a satellite image, 901 00:51:13,448 --> 00:51:15,742 you can see the boundaries of the reservation 902 00:51:15,784 --> 00:51:19,871 just because the lush forest makes it stand out. 903 00:51:19,913 --> 00:51:24,334 And years ago, the areas all around us 904 00:51:24,376 --> 00:51:26,544 were wiped out by lumber barons, 905 00:51:28,046 --> 00:51:30,256 just clear-cutting, wiping it out. 906 00:51:36,054 --> 00:51:39,015 - "Napanoh pemecwan". 907 00:51:39,057 --> 00:51:41,434 That means "flows repeatedly". 908 00:51:41,476 --> 00:51:44,187 It's a description of everything that's going on 909 00:51:44,229 --> 00:51:48,400 within the environment around us, the natural environment. 910 00:51:51,277 --> 00:51:56,116 The lifeblood of the forest is the river we have here. 911 00:51:56,157 --> 00:52:00,161 Everything revolves around this body of water. 912 00:52:02,497 --> 00:52:05,625 The bad thing is that it flows in from the north 913 00:52:05,667 --> 00:52:09,963 off of the ag fields, which picks up a lot of accumulation 914 00:52:10,005 --> 00:52:14,342 of different types of chemicals, different types of runoff, 915 00:52:16,177 --> 00:52:18,013 both natural and manmade. 916 00:52:19,431 --> 00:52:23,309 The benefits of this forest that don't get recognized 917 00:52:23,351 --> 00:52:28,189 is this water, this hydrology is cleaned by the forest. 918 00:52:29,107 --> 00:52:32,152 These benefits spread to all the counties around us 919 00:52:32,193 --> 00:52:34,154 because of the river systems. 920 00:52:34,195 --> 00:52:36,531 The clean water that they enjoy 921 00:52:37,532 --> 00:52:40,410 is a result of this forest here, 922 00:52:40,452 --> 00:52:43,455 these complete intact elder communities. 923 00:52:47,876 --> 00:52:50,503 (waves lapping) 924 00:52:53,214 --> 00:52:57,135 (singing in Hawaiian) 925 00:53:20,075 --> 00:53:25,205 - This is the eastern point of the Big Island of Hawaii. 926 00:53:25,246 --> 00:53:30,293 So we come here for our sunrise celebrations. 927 00:53:30,335 --> 00:53:32,671 And to honor the creation. 928 00:53:33,546 --> 00:53:36,007 But this would all be considered part 929 00:53:36,049 --> 00:53:40,053 of religious ceremonies of the Hawaiians. 930 00:53:40,679 --> 00:53:44,599 And of course, all of these practices were outlawed, 931 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:49,562 outlawed and made criminal here in Hawaii 932 00:53:49,604 --> 00:53:53,525 by the missionaries until 1978. 933 00:53:56,194 --> 00:53:59,447 "He moku he wa'a, he wa'a he moku." 934 00:54:00,448 --> 00:54:04,077 It means "the island", "moku", 935 00:54:04,119 --> 00:54:09,124 "is a canoe", "wa'a", "the wa'a is an island". 936 00:54:10,291 --> 00:54:12,127 We think of it as a canoe. 937 00:54:13,044 --> 00:54:15,005 We're in the middle of the Pacific. 938 00:54:15,046 --> 00:54:16,548 You got to learn to get along. 939 00:54:17,382 --> 00:54:20,385 And everybody's got to pull for the canoe. 940 00:54:20,427 --> 00:54:23,138 (gentle music) 941 00:54:25,473 --> 00:54:29,436 Agroforestry, contrary to popular belief, 942 00:54:29,477 --> 00:54:33,231 is far from a new idea; it's actually the old idea. 943 00:54:33,273 --> 00:54:37,569 People used to live off tree foods, forest plants. 944 00:54:37,610 --> 00:54:41,031 In Hawaii the system was called (speaking Hawaiian) 945 00:54:41,072 --> 00:54:42,449 which means "agroforest". 946 00:54:46,244 --> 00:54:49,956 Archibald Menzies, the botanist and biologist 947 00:54:49,998 --> 00:54:54,127 with George Vancouver in the original English expeditions, 948 00:54:54,169 --> 00:54:58,465 first recorded in his logs to the Royal London Society 949 00:54:58,506 --> 00:55:01,968 the fact that he'd seen agriculture in Hawaii 950 00:55:02,010 --> 00:55:04,971 like he'd never seen anywhere else before 951 00:55:05,013 --> 00:55:07,640 and that these systems were more abundant, 952 00:55:07,682 --> 00:55:12,145 more productive than anything they had ever experienced 953 00:55:12,187 --> 00:55:13,480 around the world. 954 00:55:14,356 --> 00:55:17,317 He also added that the only thing left to do 955 00:55:17,359 --> 00:55:20,487 is to make plantation workers out of these people. 956 00:55:20,528 --> 00:55:23,740 The United States, through the illegal takeover 957 00:55:23,782 --> 00:55:27,327 of Hawaii in 1893 to 1898, 958 00:55:27,369 --> 00:55:30,663 undermined Hawaii's agricultural capacities. 959 00:55:30,705 --> 00:55:34,084 Hawaii moved into this raging sugarcane 960 00:55:34,125 --> 00:55:36,002 monocrop production, 961 00:55:36,044 --> 00:55:39,631 as well as pineapple monocrop production, 962 00:55:39,673 --> 00:55:43,134 wherein they totally decimated the land. 963 00:55:43,176 --> 00:55:46,304 And organizations like Monsanto, 964 00:55:46,346 --> 00:55:50,350 they got a foothold in Hawaiian in the 1950s. 965 00:55:50,392 --> 00:55:54,270 These indigenous practices... 966 00:55:54,312 --> 00:55:59,359 disregarded by the Americans from 1898 to the present day, 967 00:55:59,401 --> 00:56:02,654 have led to the environmental degradation of Hawaii. 968 00:56:07,701 --> 00:56:09,828 (sawing) 969 00:56:17,252 --> 00:56:19,045 We still have the memory, 970 00:56:19,087 --> 00:56:21,381 and we're working on trying to reestablish 971 00:56:21,423 --> 00:56:22,841 those food systems. 972 00:56:24,384 --> 00:56:28,638 Food forests are designed to capture water and hold water. 973 00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:32,726 Food forests survive in droughts. 974 00:56:32,767 --> 00:56:37,564 Food forests survive impacts during the great storm 975 00:56:37,605 --> 00:56:41,818 where agricultural fields in two-dimensional lines do not. 976 00:56:41,860 --> 00:56:43,737 (soft music) 977 00:56:43,778 --> 00:56:48,575 The relational interactive component 978 00:56:48,616 --> 00:56:52,412 of the biology of a forest is quite different 979 00:56:52,454 --> 00:56:56,124 than a garden or an agricultural field. 980 00:56:57,292 --> 00:57:00,587 It was important that we work with a residential zoning 981 00:57:00,628 --> 00:57:05,091 so that any experimentation would be applicable 982 00:57:05,133 --> 00:57:07,844 to a household in Honolulu, 983 00:57:07,886 --> 00:57:11,389 in the larger, more metropolitan 984 00:57:11,431 --> 00:57:13,933 or suburban areas of the state. 985 00:57:15,310 --> 00:57:18,772 We're looking at trying to positively impact 986 00:57:18,813 --> 00:57:21,441 single-family dwellings 987 00:57:21,483 --> 00:57:25,195 around food security and food preparedness 988 00:57:25,236 --> 00:57:26,780 in an emergency situation 989 00:57:26,821 --> 00:57:31,534 for either a man-made or a natural disaster. 990 00:57:31,576 --> 00:57:34,162 (soft music) 991 00:57:37,499 --> 00:57:40,460 When you look out over the central plain, 992 00:57:40,502 --> 00:57:42,796 the northern central plain of the island, 993 00:57:42,837 --> 00:57:47,634 these plains were once covered with food forests 994 00:57:47,676 --> 00:57:52,138 and forest with timber trees as high as 100 feet. 995 00:57:52,180 --> 00:57:57,268 These uplands were turned over to some Englishmen 996 00:57:57,519 --> 00:57:59,938 who brought in Scottish cattlemen. 997 00:57:59,979 --> 00:58:04,651 They simply brought degradation to these lands, 998 00:58:04,693 --> 00:58:07,362 and they called this success. 999 00:58:08,530 --> 00:58:10,448 (drizzling) 1000 00:58:10,490 --> 00:58:12,867 (chattering) 1001 00:58:44,524 --> 00:58:46,693 (raining) 1002 00:58:48,862 --> 00:58:51,698 (faucet running) 1003 00:59:02,417 --> 00:59:04,711 - Basically, we're trying to revive 1004 00:59:04,753 --> 00:59:06,880 many of the practices of old 1005 00:59:06,921 --> 00:59:11,718 and getting people to realize that... 1006 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,804 not everything is instantaneous 1007 00:59:14,846 --> 00:59:18,558 like going to the supermarket and getting your food. 1008 00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:20,018 It takes time. 1009 00:59:22,062 --> 00:59:26,775 Right now we have a group harvesting kalo, which is taro. 1010 00:59:31,279 --> 00:59:35,950 Food forestry for me would be integrating different crops 1011 00:59:37,452 --> 00:59:38,452 in... 1012 00:59:39,746 --> 00:59:41,915 family property, 1013 00:59:42,791 --> 00:59:47,754 so that you're not raising just the one item 1014 00:59:47,796 --> 00:59:50,924 that you would want for your family. 1015 00:59:50,965 --> 00:59:53,760 On our property with my grandparents, 1016 00:59:53,802 --> 00:59:56,930 we have the kalo, the breadfruit. 1017 00:59:56,971 --> 01:00:00,350 We also had bananas. 1018 01:00:00,392 --> 01:00:02,894 Several varieties of bananas. 1019 01:00:02,936 --> 01:00:04,896 A little bit of everything. 1020 01:00:04,938 --> 01:00:07,482 (soft music) 1021 01:00:11,403 --> 01:00:13,363 This right here, 1022 01:00:13,405 --> 01:00:15,949 this is 'olena. 1023 01:00:15,990 --> 01:00:18,827 To us it's 'olena, but that's turmeric. 1024 01:00:19,661 --> 01:00:21,329 Right here. 1025 01:00:21,621 --> 01:00:24,958 This one has a blossom and that's part of the ginger family. 1026 01:00:27,836 --> 01:00:30,296 So there's your breadfruit right there. 1027 01:00:30,338 --> 01:00:33,508 You can see some of the young fruits starting in on it. 1028 01:00:36,845 --> 01:00:41,850 And the uhi, or yam... 1029 01:00:42,434 --> 01:00:45,478 is that vine that's creeping up on the tree. 1030 01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,647 They're actually working with each other. 1031 01:00:50,775 --> 01:00:53,611 (birds chirping) 1032 01:00:55,780 --> 01:00:57,574 So you can see the diverse planting. 1033 01:00:57,615 --> 01:01:01,619 So you've got the wauke, the paper Mulberry. 1034 01:01:02,454 --> 01:01:06,082 Right here we've got tea, the tea plants. 1035 01:01:06,124 --> 01:01:08,501 And we've got the breadfruit. 1036 01:01:09,878 --> 01:01:11,046 Bananas. 1037 01:01:13,506 --> 01:01:18,178 We had what was known as the Breadfruit Belt, 1038 01:01:19,054 --> 01:01:22,724 which ran for a good 20 miles. 1039 01:01:25,143 --> 01:01:28,855 It was at least a half a mile wide. 1040 01:01:28,897 --> 01:01:31,483 But then with the coffee industry, 1041 01:01:31,524 --> 01:01:34,861 a lot of those trees were taken down. 1042 01:01:36,738 --> 01:01:38,656 I think the differences with monocropping 1043 01:01:38,698 --> 01:01:43,536 is you've just got this one crop for acres and acres. 1044 01:01:43,578 --> 01:01:44,871 When I was growing up 1045 01:01:44,913 --> 01:01:47,665 and my grandparents got into coffee, 1046 01:01:47,707 --> 01:01:52,170 there wasn't what we know now is a coffee borer bug. 1047 01:01:53,088 --> 01:01:56,758 You lose your crop or a good percentage. 1048 01:01:58,677 --> 01:02:03,723 And we believe that could possibly happen to other crops, 1049 01:02:04,182 --> 01:02:05,809 possibly breadfruit. 1050 01:02:06,601 --> 01:02:09,396 That once you get an infection in 1051 01:02:09,437 --> 01:02:11,731 and that's the only thing that's growing on your property, 1052 01:02:11,773 --> 01:02:14,192 it's gonna go from one street to the next to the next. 1053 01:02:14,234 --> 01:02:18,530 And pretty soon the entire field could be infiltrated. 1054 01:02:20,865 --> 01:02:22,534 Whereas with the old... 1055 01:02:24,119 --> 01:02:26,204 the old systems where you had... 1056 01:02:27,622 --> 01:02:32,043 more diverse crops in between your major, 1057 01:02:32,085 --> 01:02:33,920 say like the breadfruit. 1058 01:02:34,796 --> 01:02:36,506 It's supporting each other. 1059 01:02:36,548 --> 01:02:38,508 So you've got other crops coming in 1060 01:02:38,550 --> 01:02:40,760 at different times of the year. 1061 01:02:40,802 --> 01:02:43,138 (soft music) 1062 01:02:46,725 --> 01:02:50,770 - The American industrial complex spent 130 years 1063 01:02:50,812 --> 01:02:54,941 ruining the capacity of the Native Americans, 1064 01:02:54,983 --> 01:02:58,236 all in an attempt to create genocide on a group of people. 1065 01:02:58,278 --> 01:03:01,114 So it's time for the United States to own up 1066 01:03:01,156 --> 01:03:03,575 to what it's been responsible for 1067 01:03:03,616 --> 01:03:06,619 and to honor the ways of the people 1068 01:03:06,661 --> 01:03:08,038 who were on the land before you 1069 01:03:08,079 --> 01:03:13,001 and incorporate those ways into our everyday living. 1070 01:03:21,009 --> 01:03:23,595 (chattering) 1071 01:03:27,932 --> 01:03:30,143 (radio static crackling) 1072 01:03:30,185 --> 01:03:31,811 (chattering) 1073 01:03:31,853 --> 01:03:33,980 - Is that saw back here still? 1074 01:03:34,022 --> 01:03:34,981 - Oh, where did... 1075 01:03:35,023 --> 01:03:36,483 Rodney put it on one of the trucks. 1076 01:03:36,524 --> 01:03:38,318 - [Man] He's probably got it in mine. 1077 01:03:39,527 --> 01:03:41,946 - In California in a lot of places, there is this... 1078 01:03:41,988 --> 01:03:45,825 there's a lot of fear around fire, prescribed fire, 1079 01:03:45,867 --> 01:03:49,537 even fire in general, and rightfully so. 1080 01:03:50,622 --> 01:03:52,290 It's understandable. 1081 01:03:52,332 --> 01:03:54,167 In a lot of our teachings traditionally 1082 01:03:54,209 --> 01:03:57,170 you build an understanding around the world around you, 1083 01:03:57,212 --> 01:04:01,132 and you learn how to live with fire and work with fire. 1084 01:04:01,174 --> 01:04:04,803 And it helps you, the more you know about it, 1085 01:04:04,844 --> 01:04:08,848 the less fear that you have. 1086 01:04:08,890 --> 01:04:11,309 (soft music) 1087 01:04:21,986 --> 01:04:24,864 - The forest service is starting to hear the land 1088 01:04:24,906 --> 01:04:26,324 screaming back at you. 1089 01:04:26,366 --> 01:04:28,052 Everything's burning up. Hey, you got to do something. 1090 01:04:28,076 --> 01:04:30,829 You can't just control everything like that. 1091 01:04:30,870 --> 01:04:33,057 You can't just take it over and say nobody can touch this. 1092 01:04:33,081 --> 01:04:34,791 And you can't just tell us that we can't do 1093 01:04:34,833 --> 01:04:37,002 what we've been doing here for a long time. 1094 01:04:37,043 --> 01:04:38,312 'Cause it's gonna mess everything up. 1095 01:04:38,336 --> 01:04:39,796 So we're all fix the world people, 1096 01:04:39,838 --> 01:04:41,715 and we have ceremonies for that. 1097 01:04:41,756 --> 01:04:44,551 So we as K-1 firefighters have this role. 1098 01:04:44,592 --> 01:04:49,055 When we come out on the hill, we have a big job to do 1099 01:04:49,097 --> 01:04:52,183 as far as respecting the place that we're in. 1100 01:04:52,225 --> 01:04:54,894 So that acorn stands come back, 1101 01:04:54,936 --> 01:04:57,063 or so that hazels come back good, 1102 01:04:57,105 --> 01:04:58,982 or any basket making materials, 1103 01:04:59,024 --> 01:05:01,234 any issues that have to do with safety 1104 01:05:01,276 --> 01:05:03,737 and where you're living at. 1105 01:05:03,778 --> 01:05:05,947 It's all revolving around your family, 1106 01:05:05,989 --> 01:05:07,574 and that's our perspective on it. 1107 01:05:07,615 --> 01:05:10,035 (soft music) 1108 01:05:14,622 --> 01:05:17,250 - Wind speed zero to two 1109 01:05:17,292 --> 01:05:20,045 from the south southeast and variable. 1110 01:05:20,086 --> 01:05:22,797 (gentle music) 1111 01:05:33,933 --> 01:05:36,728 - These trees are all fire-adapted trees 1112 01:05:36,770 --> 01:05:40,398 burning from the beginning of time. 1113 01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:42,942 They become a fire adapted forest. 1114 01:05:44,110 --> 01:05:46,363 Most of our gathering materials are medicines. 1115 01:05:46,404 --> 01:05:49,032 The redwoods and some of the pines and stuff 1116 01:05:49,074 --> 01:05:50,408 require fire to go through them 1117 01:05:50,450 --> 01:05:52,952 in order to open up and deposit their seeds. 1118 01:05:52,994 --> 01:05:55,455 You can start to see the difference in the trees. 1119 01:05:56,331 --> 01:05:57,933 You see it as we start going through here, 1120 01:05:57,957 --> 01:05:59,310 we're gonna get these indicator species 1121 01:05:59,334 --> 01:06:00,960 to tell us what we're doing right. 1122 01:06:01,002 --> 01:06:02,420 The giant salamander. 1123 01:06:03,338 --> 01:06:06,174 I've seen species that I'd never seen 1124 01:06:06,216 --> 01:06:10,387 on the river before, except in our burn units 1125 01:06:10,428 --> 01:06:11,680 after we burned them. 1126 01:06:12,764 --> 01:06:13,764 It's pretty cool. 1127 01:06:16,685 --> 01:06:17,685 Add 'em up! 1128 01:06:18,478 --> 01:06:19,478 - [Men] Holding. 1129 01:06:26,861 --> 01:06:29,197 (chattering) 1130 01:06:30,365 --> 01:06:33,201 (fire crackling) 1131 01:06:37,205 --> 01:06:38,832 - That's the desired effects right here. 1132 01:06:38,873 --> 01:06:42,168 You see how it's all along the bed of the forest? 1133 01:06:42,210 --> 01:06:44,838 Consuming the leaf litter and the dead and down, 1134 01:06:44,879 --> 01:06:47,215 not affecting the trees too much right there. 1135 01:06:48,174 --> 01:06:49,467 Doing good work. 1136 01:06:49,509 --> 01:06:51,153 And the more prescribed fire we get on the ground 1137 01:06:51,177 --> 01:06:52,971 around our communities, the safer we are. 1138 01:06:53,013 --> 01:06:54,848 You take away the available fuel loading, 1139 01:06:54,889 --> 01:06:57,350 when wildfire comes around, there's not that fuel loading 1140 01:06:57,392 --> 01:07:00,020 to just feed it in a rip uncontrollably. 1141 01:07:00,061 --> 01:07:02,188 When it hits these areas that have been treated, 1142 01:07:02,230 --> 01:07:05,025 there's not enough fuel to feed that wildfire, 1143 01:07:05,066 --> 01:07:07,294 and it'll go out and these areas, and we can defend that. 1144 01:07:07,318 --> 01:07:09,904 (soft music) 1145 01:07:13,992 --> 01:07:16,786 When it's opened up like this, elders can still come in here 1146 01:07:16,828 --> 01:07:19,039 and collect those resources right there. 1147 01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:20,832 And if they can't get in there, 1148 01:07:20,874 --> 01:07:24,836 share that knowledge with the kids, it gets lost in time. 1149 01:07:24,878 --> 01:07:26,296 So when we can open stuff up, 1150 01:07:26,338 --> 01:07:28,506 they can get in here and teach the younger generations 1151 01:07:28,548 --> 01:07:31,217 the traditional practices, and they can get in there 1152 01:07:31,259 --> 01:07:34,721 and harvest those cultural and natural resources, 1153 01:07:34,763 --> 01:07:36,222 that knowledge never gets lost, 1154 01:07:36,264 --> 01:07:38,475 just keeps recycling and repeating itself, 1155 01:07:38,516 --> 01:07:40,101 and it's all good work. 1156 01:07:44,439 --> 01:07:47,025 (chattering) 1157 01:07:56,534 --> 01:07:57,744 (clapping) 1158 01:07:57,786 --> 01:07:59,079 - Forest service! 1159 01:08:02,540 --> 01:08:06,044 CIBA 1160 01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:08,338 Karuk Tribe 1161 01:08:08,380 --> 01:08:10,215 Parks, national parks. 1162 01:08:10,256 --> 01:08:13,009 (clapping) 1163 01:08:13,051 --> 01:08:14,886 - Following the Smoke started out, 1164 01:08:15,470 --> 01:08:18,390 it started with the group basket weavers. 1165 01:08:18,431 --> 01:08:21,059 And they joined together and were having issues 1166 01:08:21,101 --> 01:08:23,895 with getting better quality materials. 1167 01:08:23,937 --> 01:08:27,107 So Following the Smoke came from following the smoke 1168 01:08:27,148 --> 01:08:28,358 by where it was burnt. 1169 01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:31,778 So if you went following the areas of the burn, 1170 01:08:31,820 --> 01:08:33,464 you were following the smoke, and then we were able 1171 01:08:33,488 --> 01:08:34,948 to use those materials from there, 1172 01:08:34,989 --> 01:08:38,118 'cause the harvesting from those particular materials 1173 01:08:38,159 --> 01:08:39,953 is a lot stronger for us. 1174 01:08:39,994 --> 01:08:41,454 Grows stronger, grows straighter. 1175 01:08:41,496 --> 01:08:44,290 And we use 'em for different like baby baskets 1176 01:08:44,332 --> 01:08:45,166 for the hazel sticks, 1177 01:08:45,208 --> 01:08:46,310 so it has to be something strong 1178 01:08:46,334 --> 01:08:48,128 that we're gonna keep our baby in 1179 01:08:48,169 --> 01:08:49,546 (chattering) 1180 01:08:49,587 --> 01:08:51,065 - [Woman] Shorter sticks and your longer sticks, 1181 01:08:51,089 --> 01:08:52,483 and you'll go through this process that I'm doing right now 1182 01:08:52,507 --> 01:08:54,467 which is just peeling it back, 1183 01:08:54,509 --> 01:08:55,885 because what you want to do 1184 01:08:55,927 --> 01:08:58,304 is you want to match those peeled back ends together. 1185 01:08:58,346 --> 01:08:59,931 So if you look closely at this basket 1186 01:08:59,973 --> 01:09:02,100 you'll see that, down the center, 1187 01:09:02,142 --> 01:09:04,144 there's actually two sticks there, 1188 01:09:04,185 --> 01:09:06,646 and they're just kind of joined. 1189 01:09:06,688 --> 01:09:10,150 And I will purposefully try to maneuver the sticks 1190 01:09:10,191 --> 01:09:11,401 so that they're laid flat. 1191 01:09:11,443 --> 01:09:13,611 - The fire for the bear grass is also 1192 01:09:13,653 --> 01:09:15,113 comes back a lot stronger 1193 01:09:15,155 --> 01:09:17,365 If we go pick the year after a fire. 1194 01:09:18,450 --> 01:09:19,993 It's stronger for our baskets. 1195 01:09:20,035 --> 01:09:22,162 So any of the color in our baskets, 1196 01:09:22,203 --> 01:09:23,621 it'll come back quite a bit stronger, 1197 01:09:23,663 --> 01:09:26,249 and we can pull on it to make our baskets finer, 1198 01:09:26,291 --> 01:09:27,459 finer work with that. 1199 01:09:29,127 --> 01:09:31,463 It's really important while we pick and burn 1200 01:09:32,505 --> 01:09:33,607 that we're doing it culturally, 1201 01:09:33,631 --> 01:09:34,859 that we're doing it in our prayers 1202 01:09:34,883 --> 01:09:36,092 before we go out and pick. 1203 01:09:36,134 --> 01:09:39,137 And that medicine goes into when we leave it, 1204 01:09:39,179 --> 01:09:42,015 the medicine goes in it when we have our baby in it, 1205 01:09:42,057 --> 01:09:44,142 so it all serves a purpose. 1206 01:09:44,184 --> 01:09:46,561 (chattering) 1207 01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:50,315 (rocks tapping) 1208 01:10:00,658 --> 01:10:04,579 It was probably maybe since I was a baby that I ate them. 1209 01:10:05,914 --> 01:10:08,875 I just always remember loving acorns. 1210 01:10:08,917 --> 01:10:10,210 We eat the tan oak. 1211 01:10:10,251 --> 01:10:12,504 They're the sweetest out of all of the acorns 1212 01:10:13,380 --> 01:10:16,091 (gentle music) 1213 01:10:19,552 --> 01:10:22,681 (chattering) 1214 01:10:22,722 --> 01:10:25,558 Long, long, long, long, long time ago, 1215 01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,395 very beginning of us, we didn't have pots 1216 01:10:28,436 --> 01:10:33,525 and pans like this, or the propane cook stove. 1217 01:10:34,192 --> 01:10:36,569 So we had to figure out how we were gonna cook our food, 1218 01:10:36,611 --> 01:10:38,697 and this is how we cook it. 1219 01:10:38,738 --> 01:10:42,200 And there's nutrients that come from the rocks. 1220 01:10:42,242 --> 01:10:43,410 It's acorn soup. 1221 01:10:49,082 --> 01:10:51,751 (fire crackling) 1222 01:10:57,590 --> 01:11:00,927 (gentle music) 1223 01:11:00,969 --> 01:11:03,555 - So really world renewal ceremonies, 1224 01:11:03,596 --> 01:11:05,515 we don't really look at it as religion. 1225 01:11:05,557 --> 01:11:07,142 We look at our survival. 1226 01:11:08,435 --> 01:11:10,103 And what are you doing to survive 1227 01:11:10,145 --> 01:11:11,980 on this landscape over time? 1228 01:11:12,981 --> 01:11:13,982 You're managing it. 1229 01:11:20,321 --> 01:11:23,324 (crickets chirping) 1230 01:11:38,798 --> 01:11:40,234 Look at the ears on this one right here. 1231 01:11:40,258 --> 01:11:42,469 They're starting to really come out right here. 1232 01:11:42,510 --> 01:11:44,137 So this was planted in July, 1233 01:11:44,179 --> 01:11:45,990 and in another week or so I'll be at a harvest these 1234 01:11:46,014 --> 01:11:48,016 and take them home and eat these ones. 1235 01:11:48,683 --> 01:11:50,977 But that's a healthy plant right there. 1236 01:11:51,019 --> 01:11:55,565 This is about a 160 days without having any rain. 1237 01:11:55,607 --> 01:11:58,193 (soft music) 1238 01:12:01,112 --> 01:12:05,158 Our farming is deep into our spiritual beliefs. 1239 01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:06,576 When we don't farm, 1240 01:12:06,618 --> 01:12:09,120 you have the loss of the nutritional benefits 1241 01:12:09,162 --> 01:12:10,997 of all the crops we produce out here. 1242 01:12:11,039 --> 01:12:13,124 The fact of the matter is the women, 1243 01:12:13,166 --> 01:12:16,002 they don't have the stuff to make the piki in. 1244 01:12:16,044 --> 01:12:19,506 (bright guitar music) 1245 01:12:19,547 --> 01:12:21,192 They don't have the traditional crops needed 1246 01:12:21,216 --> 01:12:22,717 to put on the table. 1247 01:12:24,135 --> 01:12:26,471 (chattering) 1248 01:12:43,321 --> 01:12:45,198 There was a dissertation looking at 1249 01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:49,494 some of the feelings we have when we don't farm. 1250 01:12:49,536 --> 01:12:52,372 And a lot of it was psychological. 1251 01:12:52,414 --> 01:12:55,709 And when you're not out here working the land and your farm 1252 01:12:55,750 --> 01:13:00,755 and being a true steward, you lose your sense of balance. 1253 01:13:03,591 --> 01:13:05,301 It's almost like all these plants out here, 1254 01:13:05,343 --> 01:13:07,095 they've become like my counselor. 1255 01:13:07,762 --> 01:13:08,930 You know what I mean? 1256 01:13:08,972 --> 01:13:10,408 I'm able to talk to them and speak to them, 1257 01:13:10,432 --> 01:13:12,100 and they show me things. 1258 01:13:13,101 --> 01:13:14,578 And so I'm not dependent upon, like I used to be, 1259 01:13:14,602 --> 01:13:16,730 I used to drink a hell of a lot. 1260 01:13:16,771 --> 01:13:17,772 I don't do that no more. 1261 01:13:19,774 --> 01:13:23,069 Native people who have these substance abuse problems 1262 01:13:23,111 --> 01:13:26,197 is a direct result of being relocated, 1263 01:13:26,239 --> 01:13:28,575 losing their livelihood, forgetting who they are, 1264 01:13:28,616 --> 01:13:30,827 and they go in to find something to fill those voids 1265 01:13:30,869 --> 01:13:33,580 that would've otherwise been filled by hunting, 1266 01:13:33,621 --> 01:13:35,206 by raising things. 1267 01:13:35,248 --> 01:13:37,834 Now that they don't have that or they move away from that, 1268 01:13:37,876 --> 01:13:41,588 you have these big problems on reservations now, 1269 01:13:41,629 --> 01:13:44,257 whereas if you were to use these traditional systems, 1270 01:13:44,299 --> 01:13:46,843 you're able to plug all those voids in. 1271 01:13:46,885 --> 01:13:49,429 All that loss of identity that was taken away from you, 1272 01:13:49,471 --> 01:13:51,556 you're able to bring it back. 1273 01:13:51,598 --> 01:13:53,433 But we need to do it sooner rather than later, 1274 01:13:53,475 --> 01:13:56,436 because once we forget these things, then we forget them. 1275 01:13:58,438 --> 01:14:00,106 - When do we want it? - Now! 1276 01:14:00,148 --> 01:14:01,608 - What do we want? - Change! 1277 01:14:01,649 --> 01:14:03,360 - When do we want it? - Now! 1278 01:14:03,401 --> 01:14:06,112 - What do we want? - Change! 1279 01:14:06,154 --> 01:14:10,200 - People today are all excited about climate change 1280 01:14:10,241 --> 01:14:11,534 and rightfully so. 1281 01:14:11,576 --> 01:14:15,121 People are rising up and panicking in a sense. 1282 01:14:15,163 --> 01:14:18,291 They recognize that this is not sustainable. 1283 01:14:18,333 --> 01:14:22,295 That's a good thing that that's happening, that reaction, 1284 01:14:22,337 --> 01:14:25,548 but it's gonna be imperative, and it is imperative, 1285 01:14:25,590 --> 01:14:29,135 that these people in these movements 1286 01:14:29,177 --> 01:14:31,179 that are beginning to grow... 1287 01:14:32,847 --> 01:14:36,393 look for and accept guidance from indigenous people 1288 01:14:36,434 --> 01:14:38,311 who know how to... 1289 01:14:39,354 --> 01:14:43,608 adapt and respond to a changing environment. 1290 01:14:44,526 --> 01:14:46,194 And we're still doing it today. 1291 01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:48,780 And we will continue to do it. 1292 01:14:50,365 --> 01:14:52,534 We say until the stars... 1293 01:14:53,535 --> 01:14:54,577 fall. 1294 01:14:54,619 --> 01:14:58,164 (moving instrumental music) 1295 01:14:58,206 --> 01:15:01,960 (passionate percussion music) 1296 01:15:04,546 --> 01:15:08,383 (singing in foreign language) 95376

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