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( guitar strings )
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- WHEN YOU WERE
PUTTING THE HAT ON
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AND YOU TURNED
AND LOOKED AT HIM,
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IT WAS
A WONDERFUL POSITION.
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THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE,
IF YOU CAN DO IT AGAIN.
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- WITH MY HAND ON THE HAT
OR JUST THERE?
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- WELL, I DON'T KNOW.
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IF SOMEONE
COULD SIT ON THAT.
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- YEAH, I JUST,
RIGHT OVER THERE KIND OF.
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NOW, DO YOU WANT ME
LAYING DOWN OR KIND OF LYING...
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- HOLD THAT, BEAUTIFUL.
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- PERFECT, THERE YOU GO.
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( guitar playing )
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( singing )
* SOME FOLKS LIKE WATER
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* SOME FOLKS LIKE WINE
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* BUT I LIKE THE TASTE
OF STRAIGHT STRYCHNINE *
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* YOU MAY THINK IT'S FUNNY
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* THAT I LIKE THIS STUFF
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* BUT ONCE YOU'VE TRIED IT
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* YOU CAN'T GET ENOUGH
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* WHAAAA
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* WINE IS RED
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* POISON IS BLUE
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* STRYCHNINE IS GOOD
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* FOR WHAT'S AILIN' YOU
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* WHAAAA
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( music playing )
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* WHAAAA
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* WINE IS RED
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- SHE'S THE FIRST ARTIST
THAT I WAS AWARE OF
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THAT WAS DOCUMENTING
EARLY ROCK AND ROLL.
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* FOR WHAT'S AILIN' YOU
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- SHE WAS ONE OF THE PIONEERS
OF ROCK AND ROLL PHOTOGRAPHY.
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IT'S ALSO SAFE TO SAY
THAT SHE ADDRESSED IT
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IN A BRAND NEW WAY,
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DIFFERENT THAN LIEBOWITZ,
DIFFERENT THAN ANYONE ELSE.
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- TURNED OUT, SHE WAS THIS VERY
KATHARINE HEPBURN-ISH TYPE GAL,
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WAY AHEAD OF HER TIME.
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* MAKE YOU SHOUT
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* IT'LL EVEN KNOCK YOU OUT
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- FROM AN AUDIENCE PERSPECTIVE,
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YOU GET TO SEE THE BAND
AS THEY'RE MEANT TO BE SEEN.
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- THE TWO NAMES
THAT KEPT COMING UP
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ON NORTHWEST 45'S,
NORTHWEST ALBUMS WERE
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JINI DELLACCIO
AND THEN KEARNEY BARTON.
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AND I REMEMBER AS A KID
THINKING,
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"WHY IS IT THAT COOL MUSIC
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IS ASSOCIATED WITH
THESE TWO NAMES?"
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* WOW STRYCHNINE HEY HEY
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* STRYCHNINE
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- I BOUGHT THIS RECORD,
"HERE ARE THE SONICS," IN 1965.
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IT WAS THE FIRST ALBUM
THAT I'D EVER BOUGHT.
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THIS WAS ALL HITS, AND IT WAS
TWO DOLLARS AT THE TIME.
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THERE WAS SOMETHING REALLY DARK
AND SORT OF FRIGHTENING
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ABOUT THE MUSIC
OF THE GARAGE ROCK
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IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST
IN THE 60S.
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I MEAN, IT'S ALMOST LIKE
"THE WITCH," AND "PSYCHO,"
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AND "OUT OF OUR TREES,"
AND "SMOKESTACK LIGHTNING"
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SORT OF INVOKE THIS SORT OF
HORRIFIC SENSIBILITY.
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I JUST FIND IT EXTRAORDINARY
THAT A SOPHISTICATED,
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WHAT WAS THEN CONSIDERED
A MIDDLE-AGED WOMAN,
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WAS AN INTEGRAL PART
OF THIS SOCIAL MILIEU
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THAT WAS FAR FROM
SOPHISTICATED.
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THIS MUSIC EMANATED
FROM INDUSTRIAL NEIGHBORHOODS
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LIKE BREMERTON AND TACOMA.
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( music playing )
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- IT WAS A BLUE COLLAR,
HARD-WORKING,
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OCCASIONALLY BRAWLING
COMMUNITY...
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AND THIS ELEGANT,
GRACIOUS WOMAN
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SHOOTING THESE RAUCOUS,
HARD-EDGED ROCK AND ROLLERS.
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Larry: SHE MUST'VE BEEN
COMPLETELY OUT OF PLACE,
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BUT YOU CERTAINLY CAN'T TELL
FROM THE PICTURES.
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( loud rock music )
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* WOW *
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* HEY BABY
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( music playing )
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* AND YOU KNOW
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- I FORGOT THAT IT WAS
THIS SIZE,
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AND THIS IS WHERE
THE BEGINNING OF TEENAGE DANCES
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STARTED HERE IN TACOMA
ON THIS SCALE.
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- ( male voice on microphone)
TOMORROW NIGHT AT THE CRESCENT
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IN DOWNTOWN TACOMA,
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THE WILD SUMMER SOUND OF
THE WAILERS AND GAIL HARRIS.
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- DANCING WAS THE THING TO DO,
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AND THERE WERE THESE BANDS
CALLED GARAGE BANDS
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OR SMALL ROCK AND ROLL BANDS
THAT DESPERATELY WANTED WORK:
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THE WAILERS,
LITTLE BILL AND THE BLUE NOTES,
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THE SONICS,
TINY TONY AND THE STATICS,
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MERRILEE RUSH
AND THE TURNABOUTS.
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OF CREATIVE NORTHWEST ENERGY.
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( singing )
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THE WAILERS SET THE PACE.
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THEY WERE
THE STANDARD BEARERS.
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Buck: THE FIRST TIME
THAT JINI CAME TO SEE US
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WAS THE END OF '63,
BEGINNING OF '64,
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AND IT WAS THE FIRST TIME,
I THINK,
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SHE HEARD THE BAND.
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IT WAS KIND OF
AN EXCITING THING FOR HER.
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- AND I WALKED IN,
AND THEY HIT THAT FIRST NOTE.
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THAT JUST,
IT WAS LIKE AN EXPLOSION.
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I'D NEVER HEARD MUSIC BEFORE
THAT I FELT IN MY CHEST.
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YOU COULD FEEL IT.
IT WAS SO LOUD.
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Buck: BEFORE THAT, WE HAD TO
PLAY OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS,
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BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT
OUR MUSIC WAS DEVIL MUSIC.
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Steve: ROCK IS IN PHASES,
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THE FIRST WAVE
OF THIS BLACK MUSIC
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WIELDING ITS WAY
INTO THE WHITE CULTURE.
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- IN THE EARLY 60S
IT WAS, YOU KNOW,
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I MEAN, THERE WASN'T ANY REAL
HARD CORE ROCK AND ROLL BANDS,
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AND ESPECIALLY FROM HERE,
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AND WE WERE THE FIRST BAND
THAT SHE MET.
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SHE ASKED FOR OUR MUSIC,
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BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T KNOW
WHAT IT WAS,
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AND SHE WANTED TO KNOW
WHAT WE DID, EACH OF US,
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WHAT WE PLAYED.
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THEY WOULD SIT HERE
AND PLAY GUITARS AND SING,
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AND JINI WOULD CAPTURE
THAT ON, YOU KNOW, ON FILM.
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( music playing )
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WE HAD COVER SONGS THAT WE DID,
THAT WE DID OUR OWN STYLE,
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LIKE THE "LOUIE, LOUIE" SONG
OR LITTLE RICHARD SONGS.
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"LOUIE, LOUIE,"
WHEN I FIRST HEARD IT,
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IT WAS THE ORIGINAL RECORDING
BY RICHARD BERRY.
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WE HAD A SINGER NAMED
ROCKIN' ROBIN ROBERTS,
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AND I THINK ROBIN, AT THE TIME,
FOUND THE ORIGINAL VERSION
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IN A TEN-CENT BIN
IN THE RECORD STORE,
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AND ROBIN HEARD IT,
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AND SO DID OUR GUITAR PLAYER,
RICHARD DANGEL,
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AND RICHARD AND ROBIN
GOT TOGETHER
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AND CREATED THE THREE-CHORD
RIFF FOR IT...
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THE THREE NOTES, YOU KNOW.
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* OH NO SAID WE GOTTA GO
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THAT'S HOW WE STARTED
OUR FIRST LABEL,
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ETIQUETTE RECORDS,
WITH THAT SONG,
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AND NO YOUNG BAND'S
EVER DID THAT BEFORE.
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* I SAID WE GOTTA GO NOW
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* LET'S GIVE IT TO 'EM
RIGHT NOW *
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WE WEREN'T ON A STAGE.
WE WERE IN A BACK ROOM.
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WE STARTED PLAYING,
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AND PEOPLE WERE WONDERING
WHERE THE MUSIC WAS COMING FROM,
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AND JINI SHOT US, YOU KNOW,
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PHOTOS OF US WALKING
ACROSS THE HALLWAY HERE;
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AND IT WAS LIKE A NEW DEAL,
YOU KNOW,
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BECAUSE MOST ABOUT
EVERY BAND'S PHOTOGRAPHS
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WERE TAKEN
IN A STUDIO POSED.
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SHE LIKED THE UNPOSED.
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I LIKE THAT.
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* I SAID LOUIE LOUIE OH WELL
I SAID WE GOTTA GO *
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- PEOPLE THAT WOULD
TALK TO ME ABOUT IT,
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EVERYONE THOUGHT,
THEY THOUGHT IT WAS STRANGE
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THAT I WAS PHOTOGRAPHING
ROCK AND ROLL,
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BECAUSE THEY SAID THEY'RE ALL
DRUGGIES AND VIOLENT PEOPLE,
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AND THEY'RE AWFUL,
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AND THEY WOULD TELL ME
ALL KINDS OF THINGS.
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NO, THAT'S NOT TRUE.
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THIS ONE OF THE SONICS
IS ONE THAT HAS BEEN USED A LOT.
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- FOR SO MANY PEOPLE,
THERE'S A SINGULAR ICONIC IMAGE,
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AND THAT'S THE ALBUM COVER,
THE SONICS BOOM.
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- THOUGH THEY ALL LOOK
VERY SERIOUS IN THIS PICTURE,
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I LIKED TO HAVE THAT KIND OF
AN EXPRESSION FROM THEM.
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IT SEEMED TO BE RIGHT
FOR THEIR MUSIC.
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* AND NOW I WISH I WAS DEAD
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* PSYCHO
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- I REMEMBER THE IMAGERY ON IT
WAS DARK, AND MOODY,
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AND INTENSE, AND DIFFERENT
THAN THE BRITISH INVASION STUFF
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AND THE OTHER,
JAY AND THE AMERICANS,
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AND BEACH BOYS,
AND ALL THAT.
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* NOW I WISH I WAS DEAD
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Lance:
THE SONICS' RECORD COVER
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WAS SOMETHING THAT MY DAD HAD;
AND WHEN I WAS A KID,
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I REMEMBER FLIPPING
THROUGH ALL HIS RECORDS.
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AND AS TIME WENT ON,
I STARTED KIND OF STUDYING
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A LOT OF PHOTOGRAPHS
OF THE MUSIC I WAS LISTENING TO.
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THE PHOTOS
FROM THAT TIME PERIOD
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WERE NOT NECESSARILY PHOTOS
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THAT REPRESENTED
THE MUSIC VERY WELL;
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SO, FOR ME, THAT PHOTO,
LISTENING TO THAT RECORD,
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IT WAS ON THE SAME LINES
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AS LIKE THE CLASH
OR THE SEX PISTOLS.
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THE PHOTOS DEFINITELY
FIT WITH THE MUSIC.
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THERE'S A LOT OF CANDIDNESS
THAT'S GOING ON;
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SO, FOR ME, THAT'S THE TYPE OF
WORK THAT I TRY AND DO.
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IT'S NOT NECESSARILY
ABOUT MY EGO
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AND TRYING TO GET
WHAT I WANT OUT OF IT.
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IT'S MORE ABOUT
THE COLLABORATION
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AND THE CONNECTION THAT I GET
TO HAVE WITH THE BANDS,
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AND I SEE THAT THROUGHOUT
ALL HER WORK.
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THERE WASN'T A LOT OF PEOPLE
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DOING THAT STYLE OF WORK
BACK THEN.
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Chuck: THERE'S A PHOTOGRAPH
TAKEN OF RON GARDNER,
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WHO WAS THE LEAD SINGER
OF THE WAILERS,
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AND THEY WERE BACKSTAGE;
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BUT THIS PHOTOGRAPH
THAT SHE TOOK
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IS CLEARLY A PHOTOGRAPH
OF A FRIEND.
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IT'S A REAL MOMENT,
AND SHE GOT IT.
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on tape: WE'D LIKE TO HAVE
ALL YOU GUYS AND GALS
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DRIVING IN CARS AROUND
TO COME ON,
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DROP IN FOR A REAL LIVE
RECORDING INSIDE,
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FEATURING THE MUSIC
OF THE SONICS.
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YEAH.
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- THE CONCERT BUSINESS
WAS IN ITS INFANCY.
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WE NEEDED SOMEBODY TAKING
PICTURES OF OUR SHOWS
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BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,
WE'RE DOING SOME THINGS
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THAT ARE JUST EXTRAORDINARY.
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THE NEWSPAPERS
HAVE A FEW PICTURES,
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BUT WERE NOT APPROPRIATELY
RECORDING THOSE MOMENTS.
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( applause )
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- AND PAT O'DAY CALLED ME
ONE DAY AND SAID,
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"WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME
AND DO THE CONCERTS?"
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I SAID, "OH, I WOULD
LOVE TO DO THAT!"
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- JINI DELLACCIO
WAS THE LAST PERSON
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YOU WOULD THINK
THAT WAS GOING TO BECOME
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OUR FAVORITE
ROCK AND ROLL PHOTOGRAPHER:
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A SMALL STATURE,
MIDDLE-AGE,
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VERY MUCH APPEARED TO BE
A HOUSEWIFE.
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- I WOULD HAVE
A FRONT ROW SEAT
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AND ACCESS
TO THE DRESSING ROOMS.
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( upbeat rock music )
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* NOW YOU'VE GOT ME
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* WHERE YOU WANT ME
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* I AIN'T GOIN' WITH THIS
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* I'M JUST THE BIGGEST BASS
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* RIDING AROUND
PLAYING THE ROAD *
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* WATCHING ALL THE GUYS
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Jini:
THAT WAS SO INTERESTING TO ME
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TO BE ABLE TO TAKE PICTURES
OF THE BANDS
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WHILE THEY'RE PERFORMING,
AND HAVING THE FEELING OF
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WHEN IT WAS GOING TO BE
THE TIME TO TAKE THE PICTURE.
228
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THIS IS THE PICTURE
OF MITCH RYDER.
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AND LET ME TELL YOU,
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THOSE LITTLE GIRLS WERE
ALL IN BIG TROUBLE THAT DAY.
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THEY WERE SO ENTRANCED
BY HIS SONGS
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THAT HE WAS SINGING
RIGHT TO THEM.
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IT WAS BEAUTIFUL.
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NOT JUST THE IMAGE,
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BUT WHEN IT WAS TAKEN.
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I MUST'VE BEEN
FEET AWAY FROM HER.
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OF COURSE, AT THAT TIME,
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JINI WOULD'VE BEEN
30 YEARS OLDER THAN I WAS,
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AND I'M SURE I JUST DIDN'T
PAY ANY ATTENTION
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TO THIS OLD LADY
TAKING THESE PICTURES.
241
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( music playing )
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Jini:
THIS PICTURE OF MICK JAGGER,
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THIS WAS THE END
OF HIS SONG,
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AND HE WAS WALKING TOWARD ME.
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I WAS IN THE FRONT,
IN FRONT OF THE STAGE,
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AND HIS EYES MET MINE.
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HE LOOKED SIMPLY WORN OUT,
NO SMILE, NO REAL EXPRESSION,
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AND I SMILED AT HIM
AND TOOK HIS PICTURE.
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I LOOK BACK ON NOW,
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AND I KNOW HOW LUCKY I WAS
TO HAVE HAD THAT JOB,
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BECAUSE NOW I DON'T KNOW
HOW PEOPLE GET THE OPPORTUNITY
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TO GO IN AND DO THEM,
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BECAUSE SO MANY OF THE GROUPS
YOU CAN'T PHOTOGRAPH AT ALL.
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Larry:
I THINK YOU DO GET A SENSE
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THAT SHE WAS ABLE TO BRING OUT
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A MATURE PERSPECTIVE
TO THE WORK.
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AT THE TIME,
I DON'T THINK
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THERE WAS A GENRE
OF ROCK PHOTOGRAPHY.
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- ALTHOUGH 'THE WHO' HAD BEEN
DOING THEIR ACT IN ENGLAND,
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SHE SHOT THE FIRST
NORTH AMERICAN TOUR
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OF THE WHO IN 1966, '67.
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SHE WAS RIGHT THERE AT THE EDGE
OF THE STAGE, YOU KNOW,
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SHOOTING THEM AS THEY WERE
DESTROYING THEIR INSTRUMENTS,
264
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AS TOWNSEND WAS HURLING
HIS GUITAR INTO SPACE.
265
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SHE WAS RIGHT THERE WITH THEM
AND DIDN'T BACK DOWN AT ALL.
266
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( music playing )
267
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- SHE WAS A MUSICIAN,
AND SHE KNEW
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THAT THE CHORUS
WAS GOING TO COME AROUND;
269
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AND WHEN THE CHORUS CAME AROUND,
THIS GUY WAS GOING TO DO THIS,
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BECAUSE HE DID IT
THE LAST CHORUS;
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SO, SHE WAS READY
THE NEXT TIME.
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- THE PICTURES JUST HAPPENED,
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00:14:36,133 --> 00:14:39,333
AND I TRIED TO ALWAYS
BE THERE AND GRAB IT.
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* I SAID I'M LOSING MY MIND
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00:14:41,633 --> 00:14:44,100
- WHEN I STARTED TO REALIZE
THAT SHE WAS IN HER 40S,
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AND SHE HAD HER HOUSE ABROAD,
277
00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,767
AND SHE WAS
AT THESE LOUD ROCK CONCERTS,
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IT TAKES A LOT OF WORK,
YOU KNOW;
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BUT BEING A WOMAN IN THIS
MAINLY MALE-DOMINATED WORLD
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AND GETTING THE WORK
THAT SHE DID
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IS PHENOMENAL IN ITSELF.
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- WELL, I THINK
JINI WAS PROBABLY
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THE FIRST WOMAN
TO EVER PHOTOGRAPH
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LIVE ROCK AND ROLL CONCERTS,
JUST BASED ON THE DATES.
285
00:15:09,700 --> 00:15:11,500
- LIKE EVERYONE AT THAT TIME,
286
00:15:11,533 --> 00:15:15,567
I THOUGHT MEN DID EVERYTHING
BETTER THAN WOMEN, TOO.
287
00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,200
IT ISN'T TRUE.
288
00:15:17,233 --> 00:15:19,233
- I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WAS
SO GREAT ABOUT THOSE PICTURES,
289
00:15:19,267 --> 00:15:21,067
BESIDES THEY'RE JUST
GREAT PICTURES,
290
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THE FACT THAT SHE JUST
HELD UP WITH EVERYBODY.
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I MEAN, YOU DIDN'T SAY,
OH, HERE'S A WOMAN PHOTOGRAPHER.
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IT WAS JUST
HERE'S A GREAT PHOTOGRAPHER.
293
00:15:27,533 --> 00:15:31,200
- YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING
YOU KNEW KIND OF IN YOUR HEART
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THAT THAT'S WHAT
YOU WANT TO DO.
295
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YOU DON'T THINK ABOUT
OH, WOMEN DON'T DO THAT.
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IT WAS WHAT I WANTED TO DO.
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00:15:40,167 --> 00:15:43,033
- EVERY GIRL
THAT DOES THIS KIND OF STUFF,
298
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WE TAKE A PAGE
FROM PEOPLE LIKE JINI,
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YOU KNOW, WHO--
IT WAS A MAN'S GAME.
300
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( band warming up )
301
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( music playing )
302
00:16:19,067 --> 00:16:21,667
Bon Von: EVEN WHEN
I STARTED OUT IN THE 80S,
303
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THE GIRLS WEREN'T DOING THIS.
304
00:16:22,767 --> 00:16:25,033
THEY WEREN'T DRUMMERS ANYWAY.
305
00:16:25,067 --> 00:16:27,233
YOU KNOW, A SOUND PERSON
WOULD COME UP TO ME,
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00:16:27,267 --> 00:16:29,100
AND I'D BE SETTING UP DRUMS,
AND THEY'D SAY,
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00:16:29,133 --> 00:16:31,333
"WHEN'S THE DRUMMER
GETTING HERE?"
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( music playing )
309
00:16:59,267 --> 00:17:00,700
Jini: WHEN I STARTED
PHOTOGRAPHING
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THE ROCK AND ROLL PEOPLE,
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IT WAS LIKE I WAS BACK
IN THE MUSIC BUSINESS;
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00:17:06,100 --> 00:17:08,167
AND WHEN I WOULD
SHARE THE PLAY END,
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IT WAS VERY EMOTIONAL
FOR ME.
314
00:17:13,467 --> 00:17:16,400
( jazz music playing )
315
00:17:27,667 --> 00:17:29,767
WHEN I WAS LISTENING
TO A BAND,
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WHEN I WAS PHOTOGRAPHING THEM,
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MY PICTURES WOULD FLOW
LIKE THIS,
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LIKE THE MUSIC.
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Anat:
OH, MY GOD!
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- OH, I HEARD THE MOST BEAUTIFUL
SOUND COMING FROM THIS ROOM.
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00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,367
- OH, IT'S SO NICE TO MEET YOU.
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- IT'S SO GOOD.
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00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,467
BLESS YOUR HEART, HONEY.
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00:18:22,500 --> 00:18:29,367
IT'S BRINGING IT BACK TO ME,
AND I'M FEELING VERY EMOTIONAL.
325
00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,533
- HOW LONG WERE YOU
ON THE ROAD FOR?
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00:18:31,567 --> 00:18:33,533
- WELL, ABOUT 12 YEARS.
327
00:18:33,567 --> 00:18:36,500
( music playing )
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00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:46,067
MY DREAM WAS TO GET
A JOB IN A BAND,
329
00:18:46,100 --> 00:18:48,533
AND IT CAME TRUE.
330
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MY MOTHER HAD A FEELING
ABOUT MUSIC AND ART,
331
00:18:54,567 --> 00:18:58,167
AND I THINK SHE DEFINITELY
WANTED ALL OF US CHILDREN
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00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,533
TO BE EDUCATED IN THOSE AREAS.
333
00:19:04,667 --> 00:19:09,733
MY MOTHER GOT A TICKET
TO A CONCERT BY FRITZ KREISLER,
334
00:19:09,767 --> 00:19:13,033
AND I CAN REMEMBER SO WELL
HER TELLING ME,
335
00:19:13,067 --> 00:19:16,133
"HE IS THE GREATEST VIOLINIST
IN THE WORLD."
336
00:19:16,167 --> 00:19:19,100
I COULD HEAR EVERY TONE
OF THAT VIOLIN.
337
00:19:19,133 --> 00:19:20,433
IT WAS BEAUTIFUL,
338
00:19:20,467 --> 00:19:26,167
AND THAT HAD A BIG IMPRESSION
ON ME FOR MY CAREER.
339
00:19:27,700 --> 00:19:30,100
( film projector running )
340
00:19:30,133 --> 00:19:34,133
I WAS BORN IN INDIANA IN 1917,
341
00:19:34,167 --> 00:19:38,200
AND THIS WAS DURING
THE BIG DEPRESSION.
342
00:19:38,233 --> 00:19:41,733
SOME DAYS, THERE WASN'T
REALLY ENOUGH FOOD.
343
00:19:41,767 --> 00:19:43,800
WE WOULD HAVE TO GO
TO THE PLACE
344
00:19:43,833 --> 00:19:46,767
THEY WERE GIVING OUT
LITTLE SAMPLES OF FOOD.
345
00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,000
IT FELT EMBARRASSING.
346
00:19:50,733 --> 00:19:53,633
I WAS PROBABLY
12, 13 YEARS OLD
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00:19:53,667 --> 00:19:55,767
WHEN I STARTED
WITH THE SAXOPHONE.
348
00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,067
( music playing )
349
00:19:59,100 --> 00:20:01,133
LATER,
THE LITTLE FAMILY GROUP
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00:20:01,167 --> 00:20:04,600
PLAYED IN THE THEATER
IN OUR TOWN,
351
00:20:04,633 --> 00:20:07,333
AND WE WOULD GO UP
ON THE STAGE,
352
00:20:07,367 --> 00:20:10,100
AND IT WAS LIKE
IF THEY HAD VAUDEVILLE,
353
00:20:10,133 --> 00:20:12,400
WE WERE THE LITTLE
VAUDEVILLE PEOPLE.
354
00:20:12,433 --> 00:20:14,333
I GOT FIVE DOLLARS
FOR PLAYING IT.
355
00:20:14,367 --> 00:20:17,767
I'M TELLING YOU,
I FELT LIKE BIG TIME,
356
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,433
AND THAT WAS THE BEGINNING.
357
00:20:20,467 --> 00:20:27,067
THIS WAS AFTER HIGH SCHOOL,
AND I JOINED A FAMILY BAND.
358
00:20:27,100 --> 00:20:29,733
IT WAS A MAN AND HIS WIFE,
359
00:20:29,767 --> 00:20:33,033
AND THEY HAD THREE DAUGHTERS
IN THE BAND,
360
00:20:33,067 --> 00:20:36,500
AND I STAYED WITH THEM
FOR TWO OR THREE YEARS,
361
00:20:36,533 --> 00:20:38,433
AND WE TRAVELED ALL OVER.
362
00:20:38,467 --> 00:20:42,500
AND THEN I WORKED
WITH BETTY BEGORRAH.
363
00:20:42,533 --> 00:20:45,533
THERE WERE ABOUT
10 OR 12 GIRLS IN THAT ONE.
364
00:20:45,567 --> 00:20:49,300
THAT WAS THE LARGEST GROUP
THAT I PLAYED WITH.
365
00:20:49,333 --> 00:20:53,067
EVERYONE FELT ONLY MEN
WERE GOOD MUSICIANS.
366
00:20:53,100 --> 00:20:55,767
WHEN PEOPLE WOULD COME
AND LISTEN TO US PLAY,
367
00:20:55,800 --> 00:21:00,300
THEY SEEMED QUITE AMAZED
368
00:21:00,333 --> 00:21:03,500
AND IT FELT REALLY GREAT
WHEN WE'D GET A BETTER JOB
369
00:21:03,533 --> 00:21:06,133
THAN SOME MALE BANDS GOT.
370
00:21:06,167 --> 00:21:09,100
WE ALL TALKED ABOUT IT
AND LAUGHED ABOUT IT.
371
00:21:09,133 --> 00:21:15,100
THEY PUT US ON A TOUR
THAT WE FOLLOWED THE BIG BANDS.
372
00:21:15,133 --> 00:21:18,700
HARRY JAMES AND THE OTHER
BIG BANDS WOULD COME,
373
00:21:18,733 --> 00:21:21,300
SO WE WERE THE OFF BANDS.
374
00:21:21,333 --> 00:21:22,800
YOU KNOW,
WE WERE NOT THE BIG BANDS,
375
00:21:22,833 --> 00:21:26,567
BUT IT WAS A WONDERFUL TOUR
TO BE ON.
376
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:27,800
THE MINUTE YOU WERE
OUT OF WORK,
377
00:21:27,833 --> 00:21:30,500
SOMEONE ELSE WAS THERE
WANTING YOU,
378
00:21:30,533 --> 00:21:35,667
AND SO THAT WAS NICE
AND WONDERFUL AND UNUSUAL.
379
00:21:35,700 --> 00:21:38,333
WE PLAYED A LOT
IN THE FLORIDA AREA.
380
00:21:38,367 --> 00:21:40,600
WE WERE PLAYING
IN HOLLYWOOD, FLORIDA,
381
00:21:40,633 --> 00:21:44,700
AND ONE OF THE GIRLS GOT SICK,
AND SHE NEEDED TO BE REPLACED,
382
00:21:44,733 --> 00:21:47,100
CALL THE NAVY BASE?
383
00:21:47,133 --> 00:21:49,500
THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF
GOOD, FINE MUSICIANS."
384
00:21:49,533 --> 00:21:53,100
AT THE TIME, THEY HAD
THIS ONE BOY NAMED WILLY.
385
00:21:53,133 --> 00:21:55,600
SO, WHEN THEY TOLD WILLY
HE HAD TO FINISH, HE SAID,
386
00:21:55,633 --> 00:21:59,500
"I'M NOT GOING TO PLAY WITH
ANY GIRL BAND; NO, NO WAY."
387
00:21:59,533 --> 00:22:02,367
SO, HE TURNED TO CARL.
THEY WERE GOOD FRIENDS.
388
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,233
AND HE SAID,
"OKAY, CARL, I'LL DO IT
389
00:22:05,267 --> 00:22:09,133
IF YOU GO WITH ME EVERY NIGHT."
AND CARL CAME.
390
00:22:11,100 --> 00:22:14,700
THERE'S A LOT OF TALK
ABOUT "THEIR EYES MET,
391
00:22:14,733 --> 00:22:15,833
AND THEY FELL IN LOVE."
392
00:22:15,867 --> 00:22:19,367
WELL, THAT'S KIND OF
WHAT HAPPENED WITH US.
393
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,067
I DON'T THINK I HAD
ANOTHER DATE WITH ANYONE
394
00:22:22,100 --> 00:22:23,600
FROM THE NIGHT I MET HIM.
395
00:22:35,367 --> 00:22:41,767
CARL AND I WERE MARRIED
IN 1946 IN CHICAGO.
396
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,567
I FELT LIKE I WAS
VERY AWKWARD AT THE HOUSE.
397
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,333
I DIDN'T COOK.
398
00:22:46,367 --> 00:22:49,800
I DIDN'T KNOW
HOW TO DO GOOD WASHINGS,
399
00:22:49,833 --> 00:22:52,600
AND I DIDN'T KNOW
HOW TO IRON VERY WELL,
400
00:22:52,633 --> 00:22:53,633
NONE OF THOSE THINGS.
401
00:22:53,667 --> 00:22:55,400
I HAD NOT DONE THEM.
402
00:22:57,667 --> 00:23:04,533
I STARTED WORKING IN CLUBS
DOING MY SAXOPHONE PLAYING,
403
00:23:04,567 --> 00:23:07,467
AND THEN ONE DAY
CARL CAME TO ME AND SAID,
404
00:23:07,500 --> 00:23:09,633
"SURE WISHED I COULD GET
A DIFFERENT KIND OF A JOB",
405
00:23:09,667 --> 00:23:13,233
BECAUSE HE WORRIED ABOUT ME
COMING HOME BY MYSELF
406
00:23:13,267 --> 00:23:15,333
AT 2 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.
407
00:23:15,367 --> 00:23:19,367
AND I KIND OF
TRIED TO THINK ABOUT IT,
408
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,633
AND I COULDN'T IMAGINE
WHAT KIND OF A JOB I COULD GET.
409
00:23:22,667 --> 00:23:25,200
I WASN'T TRAINED
TO DO ANYTHING.
410
00:23:25,233 --> 00:23:27,300
MY LIFE HAD BEEN
SO FULL OF TRAVEL,
411
00:23:27,333 --> 00:23:30,767
AND MY MUSIC
MEANT A LOT TO ME.
412
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,233
AND I WAS WALKING AROUND
THE STREETS IN CHICAGO,
413
00:23:33,267 --> 00:23:36,400
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
WHAT TO DO,
414
00:23:36,433 --> 00:23:41,067
AND I WALKED PAST TWO BIG
CEMENT SCULPTURES OF LIONS,
415
00:23:41,100 --> 00:23:42,333
SO BEAUTIFUL TO ME.
416
00:23:42,367 --> 00:23:45,300
I WALKED UP TO WALK AROUND THEM
AND LOOK AT THEM;
417
00:23:45,333 --> 00:23:49,667
AND AS I DID THAT, I LOOKED
AT THE DOOR AND THE SIGN,
418
00:23:49,700 --> 00:23:51,533
"THE ART INSTITUTE."
419
00:23:51,567 --> 00:23:54,667
WHAT I DID WAS GO IN
AND SIGN UP.
420
00:23:54,700 --> 00:23:56,800
WHEN I DISCOVERED ART,
421
00:23:56,833 --> 00:24:01,633
IT QUICKLY REPLACED
THE MUSIC FOR ME,
422
00:24:01,667 --> 00:24:05,367
BUT IT WAS ALMOST
NO TIME AT ALL
423
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,300
UNTIL THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO
STARTED CALLING ME,
424
00:24:09,333 --> 00:24:14,167
ASKING IF I WOULD DO
SOME PIECES FOR THEM.
425
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,167
AS MY CAREER PROGRESSED,
426
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,767
I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE
TO REMEMBER;
427
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,467
AND I THOUGHT,
"IF I HAD PICTURES,
428
00:24:20,500 --> 00:24:23,367
IF I COULD TAKE PICTURES OF IT,
I WOULD REMEMBER BETTER."
429
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:24,767
announcer:
HE GETS THE RIGHT EXPOSURE
430
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,367
TIME AFTER TIME
AUTOMATICALLY.
431
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,567
THIS AMAZING CAMERA
MEASURES THE LIGHT
432
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,767
WITH ITS ELECTRIC EYE
LIGHT METER.
433
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,367
Jini:
AND AT THAT TIME,
434
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,500
EVERYONE THAT I KNEW
HAD A HAWKEYE CAMERA,
435
00:24:37,533 --> 00:24:40,800
AND YOU COULD BUY
A HAWKEYE FOR 99 CENTS.
436
00:24:40,833 --> 00:24:42,367
SO I SAID TO CARL, I SAID,
437
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,733
"I THINK
I'M GOING TO BUY A CAMERA."
438
00:24:44,767 --> 00:24:46,467
THAT NIGHT,
WHEN HE WENT TO WORK,
439
00:24:46,500 --> 00:24:49,500
HE SAID, "WELL, MY WIFE
IS GOING TOMORROW,
440
00:24:49,533 --> 00:24:51,267
GOING TO BUY A CAMERA."
441
00:24:51,300 --> 00:24:54,133
RIGHT AWAY, ONE OF THE MEN
PIPED UP AND SAID,
442
00:24:54,167 --> 00:24:57,367
"WOULD SHE LIKE FOR ME TO GO
AND HELP HER PICK OUT ONE?"
443
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,500
HE TOOK ME TO THE BEST
CAMERA STORE IN CHICAGO.
444
00:25:01,533 --> 00:25:04,467
WE DIDN'T KNOW
THERE WERE SPECIAL CAMERAS.
445
00:25:04,500 --> 00:25:08,367
THE MAN THAT WORKED THERE
CAME OVER BRINGING ME A LEICA,
446
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,233
AND HE HANDED IT TO ME
LIKE THIS.
447
00:25:10,267 --> 00:25:13,467
HE SAID, "I REALLY THINK
THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED."
448
00:25:13,500 --> 00:25:17,133
I PICKED IT UP
AND HELD IT IN MY HAND,
449
00:25:17,167 --> 00:25:19,300
AND IT FELT REALLY NICE.
450
00:25:19,333 --> 00:25:23,567
I HAD $70,
AND THE CAMERA WAS $70.
451
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:28,267
I HANDED HIM MY $70,
AND HE HANDED ME THE CAMERA.
452
00:25:28,300 --> 00:25:32,700
I SAID, "NOW,
NOW I HAVE THE CAMERA,
453
00:25:32,733 --> 00:25:36,467
HOW AM I GOING TO LEARN
WHAT TO DO WITH IT?"
454
00:25:36,500 --> 00:25:40,233
I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW
WHERE THE FILM WENT IN IT.
455
00:25:40,267 --> 00:25:42,367
IT LOOKED
SO COMPLICATED TO ME.
456
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,367
SO, HE LAUGHED, AND HE SAID,
"THIS IS HOW YOU DO IT,"
457
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:51,100
AND HE HANDED ME A MANUAL
THAT THICK, A HARDBACK MANUAL.
458
00:25:51,133 --> 00:25:54,567
HE SAYS,
"YOU TAKE THAT EVERY DAY.
459
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,433
YOU GO DOWN,
AND YOU SIT OUTSIDE.
460
00:25:57,467 --> 00:26:00,233
SIT THERE WHERE
YOU CAN LOOK AT THE STREET
461
00:26:00,267 --> 00:26:03,100
AND LOOK AT PEOPLE WALKING BY,
AND YOU TAKE THE CAMERA,
462
00:26:03,133 --> 00:26:07,567
AS THEY WALK BY,
AND YOU TAKE A PICTURE OF THEM.
463
00:26:09,767 --> 00:26:14,100
AND WHEN THE DAY COMES,
WHEN YOU FEEL LIKE
464
00:26:14,133 --> 00:26:16,700
THE CAMERA IS JUST
AN EXTENSION OF YOUR ARM,
465
00:26:16,733 --> 00:26:19,667
YOU'RE READY TO PUT FILM IN."
466
00:26:19,700 --> 00:26:23,200
WELL, I DID
EXACTLY WHAT HE TOLD ME.
467
00:26:23,233 --> 00:26:24,300
announcer: THAT WAY,
YOU'LL BE SURE TO GET
468
00:26:24,333 --> 00:26:28,300
PICTURES YOU'LL ENJOY
OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
469
00:26:29,700 --> 00:26:33,567
WE MOVED TO LONG BEACH,
CALIFORNIA.
470
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:39,133
CARL WAS ALWAYS STUDYING,
AND HE GOT A JOB TEACHING.
471
00:26:39,167 --> 00:26:42,500
HE WAS A FOREIGN LANGUAGE
TEACHER,
472
00:26:42,533 --> 00:26:50,200
AND HE WAS PASSIONATE,
TOTALLY, ABOUT HIS WORK.
473
00:26:51,667 --> 00:26:53,367
LATER, WHEN I STARTED
PHOTOGRAPHY,
474
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:54,733
I WAS ALWAYS STUDYING.
475
00:26:54,767 --> 00:26:58,367
WE FELT THAT IT WAS BETTER
THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE CHILDREN,
476
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:04,267
AND SO WE BOTH HAD CHILDREN
BY OUR WORK.
477
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,500
I SAW THIS GIRL
DOING FASHION WORK
478
00:27:10,533 --> 00:27:15,067
IN ONE OF THE DEPARTMENT STORES,
AND SHE LOOKED SO WONDERFUL,
479
00:27:15,100 --> 00:27:19,367
LIKE SUCH A NICE PERSON
AND SO BEAUTIFUL.
480
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,433
AND I SAID TO MY MOTHER,
WHO WAS WITH ME,
481
00:27:23,467 --> 00:27:26,167
"I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE HER
COME FOR THE DAY
482
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,100
AND BRING SEVERAL THINGS
THAT SHE COULD CHANGE TO
483
00:27:30,133 --> 00:27:32,200
AND JUST DO PICTURES
OF HER ALL DAY,
484
00:27:32,233 --> 00:27:35,033
NOT DO ANYTHING,
JUST DO PICTURES."
485
00:27:35,067 --> 00:27:37,600
SO, FINALLY, I GOT THE COURAGE
AND ASKED HER,
486
00:27:37,633 --> 00:27:40,133
AND SHE SAID,
"OH, I WOULD LOVE TO.
487
00:27:40,167 --> 00:27:43,233
THAT'S JUST WHAT I NEED
IS NEW PICTURES."
488
00:27:43,267 --> 00:27:47,100
THAT REALLY BEGAN
MY CAREER IN FASHION,
489
00:27:47,133 --> 00:27:50,633
AND THE PICTURES
WERE ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL.
490
00:27:50,667 --> 00:27:52,633
THEY WERE EVERYTHING
I WAS FEELING
491
00:27:52,667 --> 00:27:55,033
WHEN I WAS DOING THE PICTURES.
492
00:27:55,067 --> 00:27:59,333
I DID A LOT OF FASHION
AND SHOWS IN CALIFORNIA.
493
00:27:59,367 --> 00:28:03,433
I DID A LOT OF WORK
FOR THE MUSEUM IN LONG BEACH.
494
00:28:03,467 --> 00:28:07,167
- IT WAS UNUSUAL AT THE TIME
495
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,233
FOR A WOMAN TO BE INVOLVED
IN PROFESSIONAL PHOTOGRAPHY.
496
00:28:10,267 --> 00:28:13,500
Jini:
THIS IS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL GIRL;
497
00:28:13,533 --> 00:28:15,333
AND WHAT I WOULD OFTEN DO
498
00:28:15,367 --> 00:28:21,100
WOULD BE TAKE A PICTURE
LIKE THIS AND CROP THE FIGURE
499
00:28:21,133 --> 00:28:26,633
TO MAKE THE FIGURE
ONE LARGE, CLEAN PRINT.
500
00:28:26,667 --> 00:28:28,600
I WOULD HAVE TO
UNROLL THE PAPER,
501
00:28:28,633 --> 00:28:31,100
PUT IT ON THE FLOOR
IN THE DARK.
502
00:28:31,133 --> 00:28:33,233
I WAS DOWN ON MY HANDS AND KNEES
WITH THE LOOP
503
00:28:33,267 --> 00:28:38,233
LOOKING FOR ANY SPOTS OR PLACES
THAT WERE NOT IN SHARP FOCUS
504
00:28:38,267 --> 00:28:41,433
OR WHATEVER MIGHT BE WRONG.
505
00:28:41,467 --> 00:28:43,467
Chuck: WHEN I LOOK AT HER
FASHION PHOTOGRAPHY
506
00:28:43,500 --> 00:28:44,733
OF THE LATE 1950S,
507
00:28:44,767 --> 00:28:48,233
IT'S VERY SOPHISTICATED
ON A PAR OR BETTER THAN
508
00:28:48,267 --> 00:28:51,233
MANY OF THE MEN WHO WERE TAKING
PHOTOGRAPHS AT THE TIME,
509
00:28:51,267 --> 00:28:54,033
BUT SHE'S DOING IT
WITHOUT ART DIRECTORS
510
00:28:54,067 --> 00:28:56,300
AND WITHOUT, YOU KNOW,
STYLISTS,
511
00:28:56,333 --> 00:28:58,300
AND IT'S JUST JINI
AND A MODEL,
512
00:28:58,333 --> 00:29:01,333
AND OFTEN IT'S JUST
OUT OF HER HOME.
513
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,033
- WHEN CARL GOT A JOB
UP IN WASHINGTON,
514
00:29:08,067 --> 00:29:13,200
AND WE DECIDED WE WERE
GOING UP THERE, GOING TO MOVE.
515
00:29:13,233 --> 00:29:16,233
THE MUSEUM TOLD ME, SAID,
"WHEN YOU GET UP THERE,
516
00:29:16,267 --> 00:29:18,767
YOU GO TO THE MUSEUM
AND TELL THAT YOU'RE THERE
517
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,200
AND YOU'RE A PHOTOGRAPHER."
518
00:29:20,233 --> 00:29:22,800
I WENT OVER,
AND IT WAS IMMEDIATELY DECIDED
519
00:29:22,833 --> 00:29:25,267
THAT I WOULD DO A SHOW,
520
00:29:25,300 --> 00:29:32,500
AND I DID ABOUT 100 LARGE PRINTS
THAT WERE 30--
521
00:29:32,533 --> 00:29:35,433
MOST OF THEM WERE 30X40.
522
00:29:35,467 --> 00:29:38,200
- I HAD SEEN AN EXHIBIT
AT THE TACOMA ART MUSEUM,
523
00:29:38,233 --> 00:29:41,033
AND IT JUST ABSOLUTELY
BLEW ME OUT OF MY SHOES.
524
00:29:41,067 --> 00:29:44,233
IT WAS LIKE LIFE MAGAZINE
CAME INTO TACOMA,
525
00:29:44,267 --> 00:29:46,800
BUT IT WAS BIGGER
AND BETTER AND JUST,
526
00:29:46,833 --> 00:29:49,267
IT JUST STOPPED EVERYBODY
THAT HAD SEEN IT.
527
00:29:49,300 --> 00:29:51,100
- HER WORK WAS SO DISTINCTIVE,
528
00:29:51,133 --> 00:29:55,533
IN TERMS OF NATURAL LIGHT
AND BLACK AND WHITE PHOTOGRAPHY,
529
00:29:55,567 --> 00:29:57,433
AND IT WASN'T ANY STUDIO WORK.
530
00:29:57,467 --> 00:30:00,767
IT WAS A FREE,
NATURAL KIND OF SHOOT,
531
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,767
AND THAT WAS IMPRESSIVE
TO SEE THAT IN TACOMA.
532
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,433
AT THAT TIME, MOST OF
THE PHOTOGRAPHERS IN TOWN
533
00:30:06,467 --> 00:30:08,233
WERE STUDIO PHOTOGRAPHERS.
534
00:30:08,267 --> 00:30:12,333
- DESIGNERS CAME BOTH FROM
SEATTLE AND TACOMA,
535
00:30:12,367 --> 00:30:15,133
AND I HAD CALLS FROM EVERYONE
ABOUT IT.
536
00:30:15,167 --> 00:30:17,367
- I HAD A PROJECT TO DO
TWO HOURS OF COVERAGE
537
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,033
FOR ETIQUETTE RECORDS;
538
00:30:19,067 --> 00:30:21,733
AND WITH THAT OPPORTUNITY,
I THOUGHT CLEARLY
539
00:30:21,767 --> 00:30:23,333
THAT I WANTED TO DO SOMETHING
A LITTLE DIFFERENT
540
00:30:23,367 --> 00:30:26,033
THAN WHAT WAS
PERHAPS EXPECTED.
541
00:30:26,067 --> 00:30:28,300
- SO, WHEN HE ASKED ME IF
I COULD DO AN ALBUM COVER,
542
00:30:28,333 --> 00:30:31,367
I SAID, "OF COURSE,
I CAN DO AN ALBUM COVER.
543
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:36,233
I HAD NEVER DONE ONE;
AND, TRULY, TO BE HONEST,
544
00:30:36,267 --> 00:30:41,100
I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS REQUIRED
TO DO AN ALBUM COVER.
545
00:30:49,767 --> 00:30:53,033
THE TREES ARE SO BIG NOW.
546
00:30:53,067 --> 00:30:55,500
THIS IS A SPECIAL FEELING,
547
00:30:57,733 --> 00:31:01,800
SEEING MY BEAUTIFUL HOME
IN DEEP HARBOR.
548
00:31:01,833 --> 00:31:04,300
SO, IT'S GOING TO BE FUN
TO SEE THE HOUSE,
549
00:31:04,333 --> 00:31:06,767
TO SEE IF IT STILL LOOKS
LIKE OUR HOUSE.
550
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,300
man:
DO YOU MISS IT?
551
00:31:08,333 --> 00:31:10,267
- VERY MUCH, YEAH.
552
00:31:14,767 --> 00:31:18,000
( wind chimes chiming )
553
00:31:25,233 --> 00:31:27,400
Buck: WE DIDN'T KNOW JINI,
AND WE CAME UP TO THE DOOR
554
00:31:27,433 --> 00:31:29,100
AND KNOCKED ON HER DOOR.
555
00:31:29,133 --> 00:31:32,367
I GUESS SHE PEEKED THROUGH
THE LITTLE PEEPHOLE IN HER DOOR
556
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,400
TO SEE WHO IT WAS,
557
00:31:33,433 --> 00:31:37,233
AND SHE SAW A BUNCH OF
SCRAGGLY YOUNG MUSICIANS.
558
00:31:37,267 --> 00:31:40,300
- WELL, I LIVED IN GIG HARBOR,
WHICH IS--
559
00:31:40,333 --> 00:31:44,033
AT THAT TIME,
IT WAS A FISHING VILLAGE.
560
00:31:44,067 --> 00:31:48,700
AND WHEN THEY SAID "THE
WAILERS",
I HEARD WHALERS.
561
00:31:48,733 --> 00:31:52,233
- AND SHE THOUGHT
THAT WE WERE FISHERMEN,
562
00:31:52,267 --> 00:31:54,233
BUT WE WERE
A ROCK AND ROLL BAND.
563
00:32:00,667 --> 00:32:02,533
Jini: AS THEY WERE COMING IN,
I LOOKED AT ALL OF THEM.
564
00:32:02,567 --> 00:32:06,300
THEY WERE ALL VERY SERIOUS,
JUST LOOKING AROUND STRANGE.
565
00:32:06,333 --> 00:32:09,667
I WAS PETRIFIED, NOT KNOWING
WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO.
566
00:32:09,700 --> 00:32:12,233
I DIDN'T KNOW
WHAT THEY WANTED.
567
00:32:12,267 --> 00:32:15,233
NONE OF US KNEW KIND OF
WHAT TO SAY TO EACH OTHER.
568
00:32:15,267 --> 00:32:17,633
I THOUGHT, WELL,
WE'D BETTER GO OUT.
569
00:32:17,667 --> 00:32:20,767
I'LL TAKE THEM OUTSIDE,
AND WE'LL DO SOME PICTURES.
570
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:26,400
* WE ASKED WHY YOU BOYS
ARE SUCH CRAZY GUYS *
571
00:32:26,433 --> 00:32:28,700
I WAS TOTALLY INSPIRED,
572
00:32:28,733 --> 00:32:30,700
AND THE PICTURES
JUST STARTED HAPPENING.
573
00:32:30,733 --> 00:32:31,867
I EVEN TOLD THEM,
574
00:32:31,900 --> 00:32:34,700
"CLIMB, CLIMB UP IN THAT BRANCH
OF THE TREE."
575
00:32:34,733 --> 00:32:38,667
WELL, THEY HADN'T EXPECTED
EVER TO DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT,
576
00:32:38,700 --> 00:32:40,767
AND THEY LOVED IT.
577
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,100
- USUALLY, WHEN WE WERE
PHOTOGRAPHED BEFORE,
578
00:32:43,133 --> 00:32:45,667
OUR BAND,
IT WAS IN A STUDIO INSIDE,
579
00:32:45,700 --> 00:32:49,100
AND IT WAS USUALLY
A POSED SITUATION.
580
00:32:55,533 --> 00:32:58,500
Larry: I THINK BY TAKING
THOSE MUSICIANS OFF THE STAGE
581
00:32:58,533 --> 00:33:02,267
AND PUTTING THEM
INTO A NATURAL SETTING,
582
00:33:02,300 --> 00:33:06,467
THE SONICS STANDING ON TREES
IN A LANDSCAPE,
583
00:33:06,500 --> 00:33:12,767
FOCUSING ATTENTION MORE ON
THE ATMOSPHERE OF THE NORTHWEST
584
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,233
AND THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT
HERE,
585
00:33:15,267 --> 00:33:20,567
AS OPPOSED TO THE GLAMOR
OF THE ROCK STAGE.
586
00:33:22,667 --> 00:33:24,233
Buck:
SHE WOULD SHOOT US
587
00:33:24,267 --> 00:33:27,733
IN BASICALLY SPONTANEOUS
KIND OF POSITIONS.
588
00:33:27,767 --> 00:33:30,633
WE FELT REAL COMFORTABLE
WITH HER RIGHT AWAY.
589
00:33:30,667 --> 00:33:32,667
Ben:
WHAT I SEE IN JINI'S WORK,
590
00:33:32,700 --> 00:33:34,633
SHE HAD COURAGE
TO SHOOT THESE PEOPLE
591
00:33:34,667 --> 00:33:36,800
WHO WERE BARELY
HALF HER AGE.
592
00:33:36,833 --> 00:33:41,767
SHE WASN'T TRYING TO BE
LIKE THE BIG KIDS IN L.A.,
593
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,800
WHO WERE DOING
THE BIG GLOSSY STUDIO ALBUMS.
594
00:33:45,833 --> 00:33:49,433
SHE HAD THE COURAGE
TO STAND OUT HERE
595
00:33:49,467 --> 00:33:52,333
AND CREATE SOMETHING NEW.
596
00:34:01,267 --> 00:34:03,100
- WELL, WE KNEW
THAT WE HAD, YOU KNOW,
597
00:34:03,133 --> 00:34:05,633
SOMEBODY THAT COULD
REALLY CAPTURE A NEW WAY
598
00:34:05,667 --> 00:34:09,600
OF CAPTURING ROCK AND ROLL MUSIC
AND ROCK AND ROLL BANDS,
599
00:34:09,633 --> 00:34:11,600
AND SOMEBODY THAT REALLY
DUG THE MUSIC,
600
00:34:11,633 --> 00:34:13,100
EVEN THE SONICS' MUSIC,
601
00:34:13,133 --> 00:34:15,800
WHICH WAS A LITTLE BIT
OVER THE EDGE AT THE TIME.
602
00:34:15,833 --> 00:34:20,233
WE WOULD TELL OTHER BANDS
THAT WE MET TO GO AND,
603
00:34:20,267 --> 00:34:23,067
YOU KNOW, SEE THIS LADY
TAKE THEIR PHOTOS.
604
00:34:23,100 --> 00:34:25,033
Jini:
WITHIN A COUPLE OF WEEKS,
605
00:34:25,067 --> 00:34:28,000
EVERY BAND IN THE AREA
WAS CALLING ME.
606
00:34:30,133 --> 00:34:32,167
- AT THAT TIME,
BEING THE FIRST LONG-HAIRED,
607
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,367
HIPPY ROCK AND ROLL BAND
IN SEATTLE,
608
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:36,300
THERE WAS A LOT--
609
00:34:36,333 --> 00:34:39,433
THERE WAS A GROWING
HOSTILITY TOWARDS US;
610
00:34:39,467 --> 00:34:43,100
AND SHE WAS AN ADULT,
AND SHE SAID, "HI, COME IN;
611
00:34:43,133 --> 00:34:44,800
LET'S HAVE SOMETHING TO EAT."
612
00:34:44,833 --> 00:34:48,100
Steve: SHE NEVER PICKED UP A
CAMERA FOR FOUR HOURS.
613
00:34:48,133 --> 00:34:54,033
IT WAS HEARING ABOUT OUR MUSIC,
WHAT IT WAS WE WERE ABOUT,
614
00:34:54,067 --> 00:34:59,400
AND GETTING THAT, GETTING A FEEL
FOR WHAT WE WERE INTO.
615
00:34:59,433 --> 00:35:02,400
SHE WAS READING OUR FACES,
READING OUR EXPRESSIONS.
616
00:35:02,433 --> 00:35:04,667
SHE WAS DOING THIS STUFF
GREAT PHOTOGRAPHERS DO.
617
00:35:04,700 --> 00:35:06,333
WE JUST THOUGHT
SHE WAS FEEDING US.
618
00:35:12,667 --> 00:35:14,067
WE'RE ALL GOING UP THE STAIRS,
619
00:35:14,100 --> 00:35:18,233
AND YOU LAGGED BACK AND SAID,
"RIGHT THERE."
620
00:35:18,267 --> 00:35:19,100
Jini:
YEAH.
621
00:35:19,133 --> 00:35:20,333
FOR THE ARCHITECTURE,
622
00:35:20,367 --> 00:35:23,567
AND SO I FELT LIKE WE WERE PROPS
IN SOME ARCHITECTURE PICTURES.
623
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,100
- YES, YOU WERE.
( laughing )
624
00:35:25,133 --> 00:35:28,367
YOU WERE-- LISTEN, YOU WERE
REALLY NICE PROPS.
625
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,367
- AND WHEN SHE FOUND
AN ARCHITECTURAL THING SHE DUG,
626
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,433
SHE JUST FROZE HER CAMERA,
FRAMED THE SHOT,
627
00:35:32,467 --> 00:35:35,100
AND THEN SAID, "WALK INTO THIS."
( chuckling )
628
00:35:35,133 --> 00:35:36,767
THIS WAS THE KIND OF LIGHT
WE WERE IN.
629
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:37,767
SUNBEAMS.
630
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,167
- YEAH.
- A FLASH.
631
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,033
SHE WAS ALWAYS THINKING FLASH.
632
00:35:41,067 --> 00:35:42,500
- IT'S TRUE.
633
00:35:42,533 --> 00:35:47,567
SO THEN WE LOOKED AT THE DOORS,
AND WHAT YOU DO IS OBVIOUS.
634
00:35:51,067 --> 00:35:53,167
AND THEN JUST TELL YOU
EXACTLY WHAT TO DO.
635
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,500
WE WALKED IN LIKE
WE OWNED THE PLACE.
636
00:35:55,533 --> 00:35:57,500
Steve:
YEAH, THAT DAY WE DID.
637
00:35:57,533 --> 00:35:58,633
- MM-HM.
638
00:35:58,667 --> 00:36:01,467
Steve: WE ARE SO COOL.
( chuckling )
639
00:36:01,500 --> 00:36:02,733
- JINI TOOK THE BAND
640
00:36:02,767 --> 00:36:04,367
UP TO THE UNIVERSITY
OF WASHINGTON CAMPUS,
641
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,767
AND THIS IS THE, ONE OF
THE ICONIC AREAS OF THE CAMPUS
642
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,700
WHERE THE COLUMNS WERE.
643
00:36:10,733 --> 00:36:13,100
SO, IT WAS ALMOST A TRADITION
644
00:36:13,133 --> 00:36:15,200
FOR BANDS TO BE
PHOTOGRAPHED THERE.
645
00:36:17,533 --> 00:36:20,600
- THIS IS WHERE WE DID
THE SERIES ON THE PARK BENCH
646
00:36:20,633 --> 00:36:24,400
AND THEN OVER TO THE COLUMNS
WHERE WE STOOD FOR A WHILE,
647
00:36:24,433 --> 00:36:28,133
AND WE WALKED THROUGH THE FRAME
OF ALL THE COLUMNS
648
00:36:28,167 --> 00:36:30,267
WITH JINI OFF THIS WAY
SHOOTING.
649
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,533
SHE WANTED TO SEE
WHAT EXPRESSIONS WE HAD,
650
00:36:37,567 --> 00:36:38,800
WHAT MADE US EXCITED;
651
00:36:38,833 --> 00:36:41,167
AND KNOWING THOSE THINGS,
THEN SHE COULD
652
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,433
FOSTER THAT BEHAVIOR
WHILE SHE WAS SHOOTING.
653
00:36:44,467 --> 00:36:50,133
- WHEN THESE KIDS WOULD COME IN,
I JUST KIND OF LOVED THEM,
654
00:36:50,167 --> 00:36:56,133
AND THEY WERE SO PRECIOUS TO ME
THAT WHATEVER WE DID TOGETHER
655
00:36:56,167 --> 00:36:59,267
SEEMED TO TURN OUT TO BE
SOMETHING MARVELOUS.
656
00:37:04,467 --> 00:37:07,333
- I SAID, "YEAH,
THAT'S THE WAY I LOOK,"
657
00:37:07,367 --> 00:37:08,567
BECAUSE THERE'S JUST,
THERE'S A HAPPINESS.
658
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,100
THERE'S A--
659
00:37:10,133 --> 00:37:12,100
YOU KNOW, OF THAT GROUP,
BECAUSE WE WERE--
660
00:37:12,133 --> 00:37:15,100
WE PORTRAYED A HAPPY ENERGY.
661
00:37:15,133 --> 00:37:20,633
I THINK THE BANDS,
JINI DREW SOMETHING OUT OF THEM
662
00:37:20,667 --> 00:37:24,767
BESIDES JUST WHO THEY WERE,
AND SHE ALSO TOOK PICTURES OF--
663
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,300
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE KIND OF
NOT ALL HAPPY PICTURES.
664
00:37:28,333 --> 00:37:30,800
THEY WEREN'T JUST LIKE,
OH, LOLLIPOPS AND MOONBEAMS.
665
00:37:30,833 --> 00:37:36,133
* AS A PICTURE
COLORS ALL COMING CLEAR *
666
00:37:36,167 --> 00:37:40,067
* RED IS WHY I'M SORRY
667
00:37:40,100 --> 00:37:43,500
- AND WE WERE ABLE TO
TALK TO EACH OTHER, LAUGH,
668
00:37:43,533 --> 00:37:48,333
AND I WOULD TELL THEM, "CLIMB UP
IN THAT BRANCH OF THAT TREE."
669
00:37:48,367 --> 00:37:52,067
GOOD-LOOKING KIDS
CLIMBING TREES, YOUNG ADULTS,
670
00:37:52,100 --> 00:37:53,733
YOU DON'T SEE THAT TOO OFTEN,
671
00:37:53,767 --> 00:37:58,233
AND THESE TREES
WERE SO PERFECT FOR THAT.
672
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:09,367
WELL, THE MIST, WELL,
THAT IS SO BEAUTIFUL FOR LIGHT,
673
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:10,767
AND I WAS ALWAYS HAPPY
674
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,200
WHEN I'D HAVE A DAY
WITH A LITTLE MIST.
675
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,633
THIS IS MY DARK ROOM
FROM YEARS AGO,
676
00:38:20,667 --> 00:38:24,333
AND IT'S A PLACE
I LOVE SO DEARLY.
677
00:38:24,367 --> 00:38:27,500
I FEEL LIKE I SHOULD BE
GOING OVER AND DIPPING A PRINT.
678
00:38:27,533 --> 00:38:31,567
OOH, I ALWAYS HAD
MUSIC PLAYING, BLASTING,
679
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:32,767
THE CLASSICAL MUSIC.
680
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,233
THAT'S WHAT WE HAD
ALWAYS PLAYED.
681
00:38:36,267 --> 00:38:40,633
IT WAS KIND OF HARD FOR ME
TO MAKE THAT CHANGE AT FIRST;
682
00:38:40,667 --> 00:38:42,300
BUT ONCE I DID,
683
00:38:42,333 --> 00:38:44,433
I WAS VERY INFLUENCED
BY THE PEOPLE,
684
00:38:44,467 --> 00:38:49,467
AS WELL AS THE MUSIC,
AND I LOVED THE MUSIC,
685
00:38:49,500 --> 00:38:53,367
BUT I LOVED THE PEOPLE MORE,
AND I THINK THAT KIND OF
686
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,367
DESCRIBES THE WAY
I LISTENED TO IT.
687
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:01,100
WHEN I WAS IN HERE,
I WOULD BE DOING MY DEVELOPING,
688
00:39:01,133 --> 00:39:03,767
AND THE PHONE WOULD RING,
689
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,033
AND I WOULD WRITE THE NUMBERS
ON THE WALL,
690
00:39:07,067 --> 00:39:10,800
AND THAT WAS MY WAY OF KEEPING
MY PHONE NUMBERS.
691
00:39:10,833 --> 00:39:16,133
THIS NUMBER UP HERE
MUST BE MITCH RYDER'S.
692
00:39:18,067 --> 00:39:22,467
LOOK AT THAT.
OH, I LOVE IT.
693
00:39:22,500 --> 00:39:26,767
LET ME HAVE YOU STAND UP
FOR ONE, MM-HM,
694
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,800
AND KIND OF LEAN BACK
AGAINST THE BENCH.
695
00:39:28,833 --> 00:39:30,300
GET REAL--
696
00:39:30,333 --> 00:39:32,367
OH, THAT'S IT!
THAT'S WHAT I WANT!
697
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:33,667
THAT'S BEAUTIFUL!
698
00:39:33,700 --> 00:39:37,500
OH, MERRILEE, I LOVE IT.
THIS IS LIKE THE OLD DAYS.
699
00:39:37,533 --> 00:39:40,467
( music playing )
700
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,767
* WELL IT'S ALL RIGHT
TO LOVE SOMEONE *
701
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,667
* AND IT'S ALL RIGHT
WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR FUN *
702
00:39:51,700 --> 00:39:52,767
* AND IT'S OKAY...
703
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,300
- UP UNTIL THAT TIME,
704
00:39:54,333 --> 00:39:57,633
I HAD NOT WORKED WITH A WOMAN
PHOTOGRAPHING ME;
705
00:39:57,667 --> 00:39:59,267
AND IN THIS CASE,
706
00:39:59,300 --> 00:40:03,600
IT WAS A TOTAL,
TOTALLY DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE,
707
00:40:03,633 --> 00:40:06,667
BECAUSE IT WAS,
IT WAS FREE-FLOWING.
708
00:40:06,700 --> 00:40:09,267
WE USED THE OUTDOOR BACKDROPS.
709
00:40:09,300 --> 00:40:13,633
SHE DID THINGS THAT WERE
VERY CREATIVE AND INVENTIVE.
710
00:40:13,667 --> 00:40:16,633
SHE WAS WAY AHEAD OF HER TIME.
711
00:40:16,667 --> 00:40:19,133
- I GOT THESE BIG ROLLS
OF PAPER FILM ON THE FLOOR.
712
00:40:19,167 --> 00:40:20,233
- YEAH.
713
00:40:20,267 --> 00:40:23,067
- AND I WOULD TAPE IT
TO THE FLOOR, SO IT DIDN'T MOVE.
714
00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:24,333
Merrilee:
UH-HUH.
715
00:40:24,367 --> 00:40:28,633
- AND THEN I'D GET ON THE LADDER
AND GO UP TO CHECK THE ENLARGER
716
00:40:28,667 --> 00:40:30,233
TO GET EVERYTHING PERFECT.
717
00:40:30,267 --> 00:40:31,600
Merrilee:
YOU PIONEER WOMAN.
718
00:40:31,633 --> 00:40:33,600
- I GUESS I WAS,
BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IT.
719
00:40:33,633 --> 00:40:38,167
I THOUGHT I WAS JUST DOING
THE WAY YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.
720
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,367
THEY WEREN'T EXCITED
ABOUT DOING THIS INSIDE;
721
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:44,267
BUT WHEN WE GOT STARTED--
AND I HAD THEM HELP ME.
722
00:40:44,300 --> 00:40:46,800
"WHERE WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE?
723
00:40:46,833 --> 00:40:48,800
LET'S DO SOMETHING
WITH THE GUITARS."
724
00:40:48,833 --> 00:40:51,100
THEY JUST DID IT.
725
00:40:51,133 --> 00:40:53,633
Andy: BUT, JINI, YOU KNOW,
SHE'D PUT US AT EASE AND SAID,
726
00:40:53,667 --> 00:40:54,767
"AH, DON'T WORRY;
IT'LL BE GREAT,"
727
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,433
AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
728
00:40:56,467 --> 00:40:59,233
BY THE TIME WE WERE THROUGH,
WELL, YOU KNOW, I FELT LIKE,
729
00:40:59,267 --> 00:41:00,567
YOU KNOW, I'D MADE A FRIEND,
730
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,300
AND ALL OF US DID,
YOU KNOW, AND--
731
00:41:03,333 --> 00:41:07,567
Jini: AND I THINK HAVING THEM
SO NEAR AND SO FAR
732
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,333
MAKES THAT A REALLY
UNUSUAL PICTURE, BEAUTIFUL.
733
00:41:11,367 --> 00:41:14,467
SO THERE, THEY'RE
ALL ABOUT THE SAME SIZE.
734
00:41:14,500 --> 00:41:17,433
THE LIGHTING IS BEAUTIFUL
IN EACH ONE,
735
00:41:17,467 --> 00:41:19,333
AND WHEN IT'S DONE,
THE INTERESTING--
736
00:41:19,367 --> 00:41:23,200
THE COMPOSITION IS, TO ME,
QUITE INTERESTING.
737
00:41:23,233 --> 00:41:27,767
IF IT'S REALLY BEAUTIFUL
AND ALL ALIGNED RIGHT
738
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,600
TO MAKE IT FEEL THAT WAY--
739
00:41:29,633 --> 00:41:31,433
BECAUSE WHEN YOU THINK
ABOUT MUSIC,
740
00:41:31,467 --> 00:41:35,233
ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU SEE
WHEN YOU'RE HEARING MUSIC?
741
00:41:35,267 --> 00:41:39,233
YOU SEE BEAUTY,
AND YOU WANT ALIGNMENT
742
00:41:39,267 --> 00:41:43,633
AND BEAUTIFUL SHADOWS
AND SO FORTH.
743
00:41:43,667 --> 00:41:46,133
- I NEVER KNEW
JINI WAS A MUSICIAN
744
00:41:46,167 --> 00:41:49,300
UNTIL YEARS AFTER
THESE SHOTS WERE TAKEN,
745
00:41:49,333 --> 00:41:53,367
AND THEN IT OCCURRED TO ME,
OH, OF COURSE, SHE'S A MUSICIAN.
746
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,233
SHE UNDERSTANDS
THE ART OF MUSIC;
747
00:41:56,267 --> 00:41:59,733
AND AS A RESULT,
SHE UNDERSTANDS THE EMOTION
748
00:41:59,767 --> 00:42:03,367
THAT WELLS UP IN YOU
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ART,
749
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,233
TALK ABOUT MUSIC,
AS IF TO A MUSICIAN.
750
00:42:06,267 --> 00:42:09,233
AND THAT WAS THE EXPERIENCE,
AS I REMEMBER IT.
751
00:42:09,267 --> 00:42:12,100
SHE WOULD SEE THINGS HAPPENING,
752
00:42:12,133 --> 00:42:14,433
AND SHE WOULD
HELP THEM TO HAPPEN.
753
00:42:14,467 --> 00:42:16,233
Buck: I ALWAYS THOUGHT
THAT JINI'S PHOTOS
754
00:42:16,267 --> 00:42:19,233
WERE AS IMPORTANT
AS THE MUSIC AND THE MUSICIANS
755
00:42:19,267 --> 00:42:21,133
AND THE WAY SHE CAPTURED THEM.
756
00:42:21,167 --> 00:42:23,467
JINI HAD A LOT OF INFLUENCE,
ALSO, YOU KNOW,
757
00:42:23,500 --> 00:42:25,500
WITH HER PHOTOGRAPHY
ON OTHER PHOTOGRAPHERS,
758
00:42:25,533 --> 00:42:28,433
SO THE SAME AS OUR MUSIC
OR THE SONICS' MUSIC
759
00:42:28,467 --> 00:42:31,067
INSPIRED OTHER PEOPLE
WITH THEIR MUSIC.
760
00:42:33,233 --> 00:42:34,400
ONE TIME WE WENT
TO SAN FRANCISCO,
761
00:42:34,433 --> 00:42:35,767
AND THE WAILERS,
762
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,500
AND WE WERE SHOOTING
AN ALBUM COVER DOWN THERE
763
00:42:39,533 --> 00:42:41,500
WITH THIS OTHER PHOTOGRAPHER.
764
00:42:41,533 --> 00:42:46,400
HE MADE A COMMENT ABOUT JINI'S
PHOTOS BEING SHOT OUTSIDE.
765
00:42:46,433 --> 00:42:49,133
HE WANTED TO GET
THAT SAME FEEL.
766
00:42:49,167 --> 00:42:50,600
HE BECAME VERY FAMOUS, TOO.
767
00:42:50,633 --> 00:42:51,700
I THINK HE DID A LOT OF SHOTS
768
00:42:51,733 --> 00:42:55,100
FOR ROLLING STONE MAGAZINE
AND ALL THAT,
769
00:42:55,133 --> 00:42:58,867
BUT HE WAS KIND OF A YOUNG
UNKNOWN AT THE TIME, TOO.
770
00:43:03,133 --> 00:43:07,300
Steve: WHEN WE GOT TO L.A.,
IT WAS JUST AN INSANE SCENE.
771
00:43:07,333 --> 00:43:09,333
THERE WERE LIKE--
EVERY THIRD PERSON YOU MET
772
00:43:09,367 --> 00:43:12,367
WAS IN A BAND WHO WAS
TRYING TO GET DISCOVERED,
773
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,367
WHO WAS TRYING TO MAKE A RECORD
AND TRYING TO BE A STAR.
774
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,067
AND WHEN WE SHOWED PEOPLE
OUR JINI PICTURES
775
00:43:18,100 --> 00:43:19,267
THAT SHE HAD TAKEN,
THEY WENT,
776
00:43:19,300 --> 00:43:23,233
"OH, MY GOD, I'VE GOTTA
GO THERE RIGHT AWAY."
777
00:43:23,267 --> 00:43:26,567
THESE WERE NOT NORMAL-LOOKING
PROMO SHOTS.
778
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,367
* SHE SAYS SHE IS BARBARA
779
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,633
* AND NOTHING IS ANYTHING
SOMETHING FROM NOTHING-- *
780
00:43:31,667 --> 00:43:33,167
- IN THE MID '60S,
781
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,267
WHEN SHE WAS DOING
A LOT OF THIS WORK,
782
00:43:35,300 --> 00:43:38,667
THE WORLD WAS PRETTY MUCH
IN CHAOS WITH THE VIETNAM WAR,
783
00:43:38,700 --> 00:43:42,067
AND RIOTS,
AND ASSASSINATIONS.
784
00:43:42,100 --> 00:43:45,167
THERE'S A SENSE OF INNOCENCE
ABOUT HER WORK,
785
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:49,067
AND SHE COULD CAPTURE INNOCENCE,
BECAUSE SHE IS INNOCENT.
786
00:43:49,100 --> 00:43:52,233
SHE JUST HAS A SENSE
OF INNOCENCE ABOUT HER.
787
00:43:52,267 --> 00:43:54,100
* SHE SAYS SHE IS BARBARA
788
00:43:54,133 --> 00:43:56,100
* AND NOTHING IS ANYTHING
789
00:43:56,133 --> 00:44:00,367
* SOMETHING FROM NOTHING
IS NO PRICE TO PAY *
790
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,000
( music playing )
791
00:44:09,233 --> 00:44:13,367
- WELL, AN ENORMOUS CHANGE
TOOK PLACE.
792
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,467
DRUGS WERE NOT A PART
OF THE NORTHWEST
793
00:44:17,500 --> 00:44:22,433
ROCK AND ROLL DANCE BAND
AND ROCK AND ROLL BAND SCENE
794
00:44:22,467 --> 00:44:24,167
UNTIL THE LATE 60S
795
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,167
WHEN ALL THE CHAOS
IN SAN FRANCISCO
796
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,067
JUST BLOSSOMED EVERYWHERE.
797
00:44:28,100 --> 00:44:30,433
YOU KNOW, UNIVERSITY OF
WASHINGTON STUDENTS
798
00:44:30,467 --> 00:44:33,633
ARE SITTING ON THE FREEWAY
BLOCKING TRAFFIC,
799
00:44:33,667 --> 00:44:37,300
AND TIMOTHY LEARY
IS PROMISING EVERYBODY
800
00:44:37,333 --> 00:44:40,267
THAT DROPPING ACID
IS THE SECRET TO HAPPINESS,
801
00:44:40,300 --> 00:44:44,267
AND EVERYTHING
JUST CAME UNGLUED!
802
00:44:44,300 --> 00:44:49,367
- WE JUST COULDN'T BELIEVE
THEY WERE GOING TO DO DRUGS.
803
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:54,467
I DIDN'T KNOW HOW I COULD
INFLUENCE THEM IN ANY WAY,
804
00:44:54,500 --> 00:44:59,500
IF IT WOULD BE RIGHT
FOR ME TO DO, AND I DIDN'T.
805
00:44:59,533 --> 00:45:00,500
- THINGS CHANGED.
806
00:45:00,533 --> 00:45:04,033
THINGS GOT DIFFERENT,
807
00:45:04,067 --> 00:45:06,800
AND MCALISTER
WAS A TREMENDOUS SINGER,
808
00:45:06,833 --> 00:45:08,500
AND HE SANG LIKE AN ANGEL,
809
00:45:08,533 --> 00:45:11,200
BUT HE WAS HOPELESSLY
ADDICTED TO HEROIN;
810
00:45:11,233 --> 00:45:14,167
AND IN 1969,
HE JUST MADE A MISTAKE
811
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,400
AND SHOT THE WRONG AMOUNT UP
AND OVERDOSED.
812
00:45:17,433 --> 00:45:21,800
- IT BROKE MY HEART WHEN
THIS BOY DIED IN CALIFORNIA.
813
00:45:21,833 --> 00:45:24,133
IT SIMPLY BROKE MY HEART.
814
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:33,100
WHEN CARL WAS SICK,
815
00:45:33,133 --> 00:45:36,200
THE LAST THING IN MY MIND
WAS MY PHOTOGRAPHY.
816
00:45:36,233 --> 00:45:40,233
I PUT MY CAMERAS
IN A CABINET,
817
00:45:40,267 --> 00:45:43,500
AND I NEVER TOUCHED THEM
FOR 15 YEARS.
818
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,067
WHEN CARL WAS DYING,
819
00:45:48,100 --> 00:45:51,233
I JUST TOLD HIM
HOW MUCH I CARED FOR HIM,
820
00:45:51,267 --> 00:45:55,333
HOW GOOD HE HAD BEEN TO ME,
WHAT A WONDERFUL LIFE WE'D HAD.
821
00:45:55,367 --> 00:45:57,800
I SAID, "AND I DON'T WANT YOU
TO WORRY ABOUT ME,
822
00:45:57,833 --> 00:45:59,767
BECAUSE I WILL BE ALL RIGHT;
823
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,600
I'M GOING TO START
TAKING PICTURES AGAIN."
824
00:46:02,633 --> 00:46:06,233
AND I LEANED BACK
TO LOOK AT HIM,
825
00:46:06,267 --> 00:46:08,767
AND I COULD SEE
THIS TINY SMILE
826
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,367
COMING ON THE ONE SIDE
OF HIS FACE.
827
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:17,100
HE COULDN'T DO A FULL SMILE.
IT WAS JUST TO HIS ONE SIDE.
828
00:46:17,133 --> 00:46:20,233
AND I SAID, "OH, MY GOODNESS,
HE IS HEARING ME."
829
00:46:20,267 --> 00:46:22,367
THAT REALLY CHANGED MY LIFE
830
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,200
AND PUT ME ON THE DIRECTION
THAT I WAS DOING THE RIGHT THING
831
00:46:25,233 --> 00:46:27,367
TO GO BACK INTO PHOTOGRAPHY.
832
00:46:30,133 --> 00:46:33,533
LOOK AT THAT.
OH, I LOVE IT.
833
00:46:33,567 --> 00:46:35,267
THE FIRST TIME
I GOT TO LOOK
834
00:46:35,300 --> 00:46:38,233
THROUGH THE VIEWER
OF A HASSELBLAD,
835
00:46:38,267 --> 00:46:41,633
I NEVER WANTED TO DO
ANYMORE 35 MM.
836
00:46:41,667 --> 00:46:43,133
WHEN YOU LOOK IN THERE,
837
00:46:43,167 --> 00:46:47,600
YOU SEE A DIFFERENCE,
DIFFERENT FROM YOUR VISION
838
00:46:47,633 --> 00:46:50,033
AND DIFFERENT FROM
ANY OTHER CAMERA;
839
00:46:50,067 --> 00:46:52,233
AND AT THE TOP OF MY CAREER,
840
00:46:52,267 --> 00:46:56,133
THAT'S WHAT I WAS USING
ALMOST 100%.
841
00:46:56,167 --> 00:46:59,467
* YOU'LL FIND YOUR RIDE
842
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,767
THIS IS JUST LIKE
AN OLD LOVE AFFAIR
843
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,033
FOR ME TO GO TO HASSELBLAD.
844
00:47:09,133 --> 00:47:10,333
- HI.
- HOW'S IT GOING?
845
00:47:10,367 --> 00:47:11,267
GOOD TO SEE YOU.
846
00:47:11,300 --> 00:47:12,800
- IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU, TOO.
- HOW ARE YOU?
847
00:47:12,833 --> 00:47:14,367
- WONDERFUL.
- GOOD.
848
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,067
- IT'S EXCITING TO BE HERE.
- I KNOW, IT'S GREAT.
849
00:47:17,100 --> 00:47:19,167
- AND I'M-- OH.
850
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:20,733
Anders: I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN
SHOOTING WITH HASSELBLAD
851
00:47:20,767 --> 00:47:22,733
FOR ALL THESE YEARS AND--
852
00:47:22,767 --> 00:47:25,733
- YES, WITH A LONG SPACE
AT THE END.
853
00:47:25,767 --> 00:47:27,333
- YEAH.
- WHERE I HAVEN'T BEEN.
854
00:47:27,367 --> 00:47:29,500
Anders:
THIS IS A BRAND NEW CAMERA.
855
00:47:29,533 --> 00:47:31,500
- OH.
856
00:47:31,533 --> 00:47:32,500
Lance:
IS IT ON?
857
00:47:32,533 --> 00:47:33,700
- I HAVEN'T TURNED IT ON.
858
00:47:33,733 --> 00:47:34,800
- OH, IT FEELS,
IT FEELS WONDERFUL.
859
00:47:34,833 --> 00:47:36,767
- SHE DOESN'T
WANT TO GIVE IT BACK.
860
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,233
- I DON'T, NO.
( laughing )
861
00:47:39,267 --> 00:47:44,033
IT WAS A VERY TOUGH SWITCH,
BUT AFTER MY HUSBAND DIED,
862
00:47:44,067 --> 00:47:48,233
I HAD DECIDED TO GO BACK
TO DOING PICTURES,
863
00:47:48,267 --> 00:47:50,267
AND I BOUGHT
A LITTLE DIGITAL.
864
00:47:50,300 --> 00:47:53,767
AND I'M EMBARRASSED
TO TELL YOU
865
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,633
I DIDN'T DO A PICTURE
FOR A FULL YEAR.
866
00:47:56,667 --> 00:48:02,100
I TOLD MYSELF, "GO AND SHOOT
A PICTURE JUST OF ANYTHING."
867
00:48:02,133 --> 00:48:05,400
AND I HAD A LOT OF FUN
LEARNING TO USE IT.
868
00:48:05,433 --> 00:48:07,200
AND ABOUT THAT TIME,
869
00:48:07,233 --> 00:48:11,800
THE MUSEUM IN ARIZONA
CONTACTED ME
870
00:48:11,833 --> 00:48:17,100
AND ASKED ME
IF I WOULD DO A SHOW.
871
00:48:17,133 --> 00:48:23,100
AND I SAID, "WELL, IF YOU WOULD
ALLOW ME TO DO IT DIGITAL
872
00:48:23,133 --> 00:48:27,100
AND ALLOW ME TO SHOW PEOPLE
WHAT A 92-YEAR-OLD WOMAN
873
00:48:27,133 --> 00:48:29,500
WOULD DO CHANGING FROM
FILM TO DIGITAL.
874
00:48:29,533 --> 00:48:33,033
* FLY MAMA FLY
875
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,333
FLY MAMA FLY *
876
00:48:40,233 --> 00:48:46,033
* YOU'LL FIND NO ANSWERS HERE
877
00:48:46,067 --> 00:48:49,067
- K-E-X-P, SEATTLE.
878
00:48:49,100 --> 00:48:51,167
IN THE LIVE ROOM DOWN HERE,
879
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,633
WE HAVE A GROUP OF
VERY YOUNG GENTLEMEN
880
00:48:54,667 --> 00:48:56,267
ALL THE WAY FROM
TACOMA, WASHINGTON,
881
00:48:56,300 --> 00:48:58,500
THAT JUST GOT DONE
WITH THEIR EUROPEAN TOUR,
882
00:48:58,533 --> 00:49:02,500
BUT THEY'VE BEEN THE SPARK OF
MANY, MANY ROCK AND ROLL BAND,
883
00:49:02,533 --> 00:49:03,800
MANY PUNK BAND.
884
00:49:03,833 --> 00:49:07,767
PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD
KNOW WHO THESE GUYS ARE.
885
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,200
THIS IS A HISTORICAL EVENT
TO HAVE 'EM HERE,
886
00:49:10,233 --> 00:49:13,033
AND I'D LIKE TO WELCOME
AND INTRODUCE,
887
00:49:13,067 --> 00:49:15,800
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,
THE SONICS.
888
00:49:15,833 --> 00:49:17,800
- WE'RE GOING TO DO
ONE OF OUR EARLY ONES.
889
00:49:17,833 --> 00:49:19,733
- HOW ABOUT YOU GUYS
PLAYING A SONG, HUH?
890
00:49:19,767 --> 00:49:23,033
( music playing )
891
00:49:32,367 --> 00:49:39,233
* SOME FOLKS LIKE WATER
SOME FOLKS LIKE WINE *
892
00:49:39,267 --> 00:49:46,033
* BUT I LIKE THE TASTE
OF STRAIGHT STRYCHNINE *
893
00:49:46,067 --> 00:49:50,067
* HEY HEY YOU MAY THINK
IT'S FUNNY *
894
00:49:50,100 --> 00:49:53,467
* THAT I LIKE THIS STUFF
895
00:49:53,500 --> 00:49:57,133
* BUT ONCE YOU'VE TRIED IT
896
00:49:57,167 --> 00:50:00,167
* YOU CAN'T GET ENOUGH
897
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,667
- THE SONICS HAVE BECOME
KIND OF LEGENDARY.
898
00:50:02,700 --> 00:50:07,033
IT TOOK A WHILE BEFORE WORD
KIND OF GOT AROUND, YOU KNOW.
899
00:50:07,067 --> 00:50:09,200
JINI WAS, YOU KNOW, WAS
KIND OF OUT OF THE CIRCLES,
900
00:50:09,233 --> 00:50:13,700
BUT THEN, SHE REEMERGED,
YOU KNOW.
901
00:50:13,733 --> 00:50:17,000
( music playing )
902
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,267
* WINE IS RED
903
00:50:40,667 --> 00:50:43,800
* POISON IS BLUE
904
00:50:43,833 --> 00:50:47,133
* STRYCHNINE
IS GOOD NOW BABE *
905
00:50:47,167 --> 00:50:50,067
* FOR WHAT'S AILIN' YOU
906
00:50:50,100 --> 00:50:53,200
( music playing )
907
00:51:36,700 --> 00:51:38,200
- THANK YOU.
908
00:51:38,233 --> 00:51:42,267
- OH, I MISS PERFORMANCES
LIKE THIS SO MUCH.
909
00:51:44,067 --> 00:51:46,100
- I DIDN'T THINK
YOU'D REMEMBER ME.
910
00:51:46,133 --> 00:51:48,233
- OH, REMEMBER YOU.
911
00:51:48,267 --> 00:51:50,300
YOU GUYS ARE LIKE MY FAMILY.
912
00:51:50,333 --> 00:51:51,000
- THANK YOU.
913
00:51:51,033 --> 00:51:54,567
- YEAH, HEY, FREDDY AND RICKY,
914
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,067
THEY WANT A PHOTO WITH JINI.
915
00:51:57,100 --> 00:52:00,367
- YEAH, IF I CAN GET EVERYBODY
JUST RIGHT AROUND BY FREDDY.
916
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,067
- POTENTIALLY, MY NOSE
COULD CAUSE A SHADOW.
917
00:52:03,100 --> 00:52:06,133
- OKAY.
- GET IN THERE.
918
00:52:07,233 --> 00:52:11,367
- THE TALLER ONES
KIND OF IN BACK.
919
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,033
I JUST THOUGHT
IT WOULD BE INTERESTING
920
00:52:13,067 --> 00:52:19,533
TO SEE THE SAME PEOPLE
THIS MANY YEARS LATER
921
00:52:19,567 --> 00:52:21,633
IN THE SAME KIND OF A POSE;
922
00:52:21,667 --> 00:52:23,767
AND I DON'T KNOW
HOW CLOSE I CAN COME,
923
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,733
BECAUSE IT WAS
A LITTLE CROWDED,
924
00:52:26,767 --> 00:52:29,033
AND I COULDN'T
CONTROL THE LIGHT.
925
00:52:29,067 --> 00:52:32,733
NOW, CAN YOU SQUEEZE TOGETHER
A LITTLE BIT CLOSER?
926
00:52:32,767 --> 00:52:36,267
- OH, DO WE HAVE TO?
- YES, YOU HAVE TO.
927
00:52:36,300 --> 00:52:38,100
- THEY DON'T LIKE EACH OTHER.
928
00:52:38,133 --> 00:52:40,500
- SHE'S STILL PUSHING US AROUND
LIKE SHE DID WHEN WE WERE 19.
929
00:52:40,533 --> 00:52:42,633
- YEAH, THAT'S TRUE.
930
00:52:42,667 --> 00:52:44,733
I BELIEVE THIS EVENING IS
931
00:52:44,767 --> 00:52:48,133
ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS
OF OUR LIFE,
932
00:52:48,167 --> 00:52:50,033
AND I'M ANXIOUS TO GO HOME
933
00:52:50,067 --> 00:52:52,533
AND SEE IF I GOT
ANY NICE PICTURES.
934
00:52:54,233 --> 00:53:00,067
ROSLIE, IF YOU COULD MOVE
BACK IN CLOSER TO THE GROUP--
935
00:53:01,667 --> 00:53:02,633
- WE APPRECIATE IT.
936
00:53:02,667 --> 00:53:05,333
- OH, YOU'RE SO WELCOME.
937
00:53:05,367 --> 00:53:08,233
- THANKS FOR YOUR MUSIC,
AND ALL THE GOOD TIMES WE HAD.
938
00:53:08,267 --> 00:53:09,400
- OH, YEAH.
939
00:53:09,433 --> 00:53:12,133
- AND WE'RE STILL HAVING THEM.
- WE'RE STILL HAVING THEM.
940
00:53:12,167 --> 00:53:14,500
- THAT'S WHAT'S REALLY GOOD.
941
00:53:14,533 --> 00:53:16,500
LET'S DO THIS AGAIN SOME DAY.
942
00:53:16,533 --> 00:53:18,300
- YEAH.
- BEFORE TOO LONG.
943
00:53:18,333 --> 00:53:19,433
- YEAH, AMEN.
944
00:53:19,467 --> 00:53:23,067
YEAH, REMEMBER, '94,
YOU DID THE BRONX.
945
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,000
- '84.
- '94, RIGHT.
946
00:53:29,533 --> 00:53:32,367
I JUST HATE TO QUIT IT.
947
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:39,133
IT GOES BY SO FAST,
BUT IT'S ALL STAYED WITH ME.
948
00:53:43,167 --> 00:53:46,267
* WOW PSYCHO WOW
949
00:53:59,533 --> 00:54:01,467
Steve: THIS IS WEEK DAY.
I'M STEVE SHARER.
950
00:54:01,500 --> 00:54:04,767
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
ROCK AND ROLL PHOTOGRAPHERS.
951
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,333
GRAHAM NASH,
MUSICIAN-PHOTOGRAPHER,
952
00:54:07,367 --> 00:54:09,233
THE MP EXHIBIT
OF MUSIC PHOTOGRAPHY
953
00:54:09,267 --> 00:54:10,733
THROUGHOUT THE HISTORY
OF ROCK AND ROLL.
954
00:54:10,767 --> 00:54:12,767
CHARLES PETERSON'S PHOTOGRAPHS
ARE IN IT,
955
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,767
BEST KNOWN FOR CAPTURING
THE GRUNGE ERA.
956
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:16,333
HIS PHOTOS HAVE APPEARED
957
00:54:16,367 --> 00:54:17,633
ON HUNDREDS OF RECORD COVERS
AND MAGAZINES.
958
00:54:17,667 --> 00:54:18,667
SO ARE ALICE WHEELER'S.
959
00:54:18,700 --> 00:54:20,133
PHOTOGRAPHING SUCH ARTISTS
960
00:54:20,167 --> 00:54:22,433
AS KURT COBAIN, NIRVANA,
RIOT GIRLS--
961
00:54:22,467 --> 00:54:25,133
ALL TAKING A LOOK
AT THE ICONOGRAPHY
962
00:54:25,167 --> 00:54:26,733
THAT IS ROCK AND ROLL.
963
00:54:26,767 --> 00:54:28,500
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
964
00:54:28,533 --> 00:54:31,433
( applause )
965
00:54:37,100 --> 00:54:45,433
* MAYBE WHEN YOU'RE OLDER
YOU'LL FIND YOUR RIDE *
966
00:54:47,467 --> 00:54:56,100
* MAYBE WHEN YOU'RE OLDER
YOU'LL FIND YOUR RIDE *
967
00:54:58,133 --> 00:55:01,633
* MAYBE WHEN YOU'RE OLDER
968
00:55:01,667 --> 00:55:04,300
( applause )
969
00:55:04,333 --> 00:55:06,800
- TELL ME ABOUT THIS.
WHAT WAS GOING ON HERE?
970
00:55:06,833 --> 00:55:09,300
- THIS IS NIKO KEYS
AND HER BOYFRIEND,
971
00:55:09,333 --> 00:55:11,533
AND SO BASICALLY WE'RE JUST
DRIVING DOWN THE STREET
972
00:55:11,567 --> 00:55:14,233
IN THE FREEZING COLD
IN THE WINTER.
973
00:55:14,267 --> 00:55:17,367
- THIS IS NIRVANA.
THIS IS FEBRUARY OF 1990.
974
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,733
THEY WERE REALLY
ON THE RISE THEN.
975
00:55:19,767 --> 00:55:21,500
THE PLACE WAS PACKED OUT.
976
00:55:21,533 --> 00:55:24,767
- WE'RE LOOKING TO
A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF ASSETS,
977
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,033
AND WE'RE VERY LUCKY
TO HAVE THEM.
978
00:55:27,067 --> 00:55:28,367
( applause )
979
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,767
- AND I WAS AT THE OFFICE
OF CHARLIE GREEN.
980
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,367
HE REALLY LIKED MY PICTURES.
981
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,233
HE SAID, "I DON'T KNOW HOW
YOU GET SUCH BEAUTIFUL COLOR,
982
00:55:35,267 --> 00:55:38,067
BUT I LIKE THE COLOR YOU USE.
983
00:55:38,100 --> 00:55:42,633
AND WOULD YOU BE ABLE
TO DO NEIL?"
984
00:55:42,667 --> 00:55:44,633
AND I SAID, "YES, I WOULD."
985
00:55:44,667 --> 00:55:46,033
WELL, I DIDN'T KNOW
WHO NEIL WAS.
986
00:55:46,067 --> 00:55:48,467
( laughter )
987
00:55:48,500 --> 00:55:53,400
HE CAME UP THERE, QUIET,
VERY QUIET.
988
00:55:53,433 --> 00:55:56,500
AND HE WAS VERY DARK
AND KIND OF GLOOMY LOOKING.
989
00:55:56,533 --> 00:55:58,233
I HAD, AT THAT POINT,
990
00:55:58,267 --> 00:56:03,067
NEVER HEARD ROCK AND ROLL
TO KNOW NEIL,
991
00:56:03,100 --> 00:56:06,367
TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF SINGING
OR MUSIC HE DID.
992
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,500
SO, I GOT REALLY
EXCITED AND NERVOUS
993
00:56:08,533 --> 00:56:11,767
AND WONDERING HOW I WAS
GOING TO FIND WHERE HE LIVED.
994
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:15,633
AND I SAID, "AND WHAT IS
YOUR LAST NAME, NEIL?"
995
00:56:15,667 --> 00:56:16,700
( laughter )
996
00:56:16,733 --> 00:56:19,667
"JUST NEIL."
( laughter )
997
00:56:19,700 --> 00:56:21,600
I SAID, "OH, OKAY."
998
00:56:21,633 --> 00:56:23,367
( laughter )
999
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:28,233
ANYWAY, I WENT TO DO
HIS PICTURES AT HIS HOUSE,
1000
00:56:28,267 --> 00:56:30,800
AND IT WAS A LITTLE BIT--
1001
00:56:30,833 --> 00:56:33,733
IT WAS VERY DIFFERENT
FROM ANY I HAD DONE.
1002
00:56:33,767 --> 00:56:35,733
I TOOK PICTURES OF HIM
IN THE HOUSE.
1003
00:56:35,767 --> 00:56:38,267
THIS IS ONE OF
MY FASHION SHOTS.
1004
00:56:38,300 --> 00:56:41,800
AND COMING FROM FASHION
INTO ROCK AND ROLL,
1005
00:56:41,833 --> 00:56:44,233
I THINK I USED
SOME OF THE TECHNIQUES
1006
00:56:44,267 --> 00:56:48,233
THAT I HAD USED IN FASHION
WITH THE ROCK AND ROLL PEOPLE.
1007
00:56:48,267 --> 00:56:50,400
- DID YOU ASK HIM TO DO
THIS UNIQUE LIKE THIS.
1008
00:56:50,433 --> 00:56:53,233
- YES, IF I COULD GET YOU
ON THE MOVE,
1009
00:56:53,267 --> 00:56:55,533
I COULD GET
A REALLY GOOD SHOT.
1010
00:56:55,567 --> 00:56:57,367
( laughter )
1011
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,500
AND HE SAYS,
"HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO IT?"
1012
00:57:00,533 --> 00:57:02,767
I SAID, "IF WE HAD A LADDER,
WE COULD DO IT."
1013
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:07,300
HE SAYS, "OH, OKAY."
HE WENT AND GOT A LADDER.
1014
00:57:07,333 --> 00:57:08,767
HE LOOKED AT ME AND SAID, "NOW,
WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO?"
1015
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,367
I SAID, "FLY LIKE A BIRD."
1016
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:12,167
- REALLY?
1017
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,167
- YES,
THAT'S HOW I GOT THAT SHOT,
1018
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,333
AND THAT WAS MY EXPERIENCE
WITH NEIL YOUNG.
1019
00:57:17,367 --> 00:57:19,700
( applause )
1020
00:57:19,733 --> 00:57:22,667
- IT IS A WONDERFUL
AND UNIQUE SHOT.
1021
00:57:22,700 --> 00:57:25,133
( cheering/applause )
1022
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:27,767
- LET'S SEE,
HOW DOES HE SPELL IT?
1023
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,533
- N-E-I-L.
1024
00:57:38,233 --> 00:57:41,733
- WE PRODUCED A COUPLE OF
SPRINGFIELD BOX SETS,
1025
00:57:41,767 --> 00:57:43,500
WHICH I GOT TO SEE,
WHAT I THOUGHT
1026
00:57:43,533 --> 00:57:45,733
WERE ALL THE IMPORTANT
BUFFALO SPRINGFIELD PICTURES.
1027
00:57:45,767 --> 00:57:48,667
WE SPENT YEARS
IN RESEARCHING IT,
1028
00:57:48,700 --> 00:57:51,733
AND I HAD NEVER HEARD OF JINI.
1029
00:57:51,767 --> 00:57:53,100
I DIDN'T KNOW OF HER WORK.
1030
00:57:53,133 --> 00:57:58,333
RIGHT AFTER WE HAD FINISHED
IS WHEN I GOT MY FIRST IMAGE
1031
00:57:58,367 --> 00:58:01,567
AND SAID, "OH, MY GOD,
THIS IS SO GREAT."
1032
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,200
WE MADE A COVER.
1033
00:58:03,233 --> 00:58:07,333
THIS IS ONLY ONE OF TWO
PHOTOGRAPHERS I CAN THINK OF
1034
00:58:07,367 --> 00:58:10,233
WHO PHOTOGRAPHED NEIL DURING
THE BUFFALO SPRINGFIELD PERIOD
1035
00:58:10,267 --> 00:58:15,367
THAT WAS NOT INFORMED
BY A TEEN MAGAZINE MENTALITY.
1036
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,167
Charles: WELL, I THINK
FIRST AND FOREMOST
1037
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,433
JINI IS NOT A ROCK AND ROLL
PHOTOGRAPHER,
1038
00:58:19,467 --> 00:58:24,333
AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES
HER WORK SO SPECIAL.
1039
00:58:24,367 --> 00:58:28,100
SHE WAS A FASHION PHOTOGRAPHER,
AND YOU SEE THAT IN THE IMAGES.
1040
00:58:28,133 --> 00:58:29,467
IT'S VERY SIMPLE.
1041
00:58:29,500 --> 00:58:32,233
THAT SIMPLICITY MAKES IT
REALLY COMPLEX,
1042
00:58:32,267 --> 00:58:38,567
BECAUSE THERE'S SOMETHING
1043
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:39,333
- HOW ARE YOU DOING?
1044
00:58:42,733 --> 00:58:44,500
HE TELLS ME
YOU'RE 90 YEARS OLD.
1045
00:58:44,533 --> 00:58:45,533
ARE THEY KIDDING ME?
1046
00:58:53,467 --> 00:58:56,167
Jini: TO HAVE THIS HAPPEN
THE WAY IT IS,
1047
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,200
IS BEYOND MY WILDEST DREAMS;
1048
00:58:59,233 --> 00:59:00,767
AND THEN TO COME SOMEPLACE
THAT I MEET
1049
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,400
ALL THESE WONDERFUL PEOPLE
THAT I THINK ABOUT
1050
00:59:03,433 --> 00:59:06,700
AND WOULD LIKE TO MEET,
AND I'M ACTUALLY MEETING THEM
1051
00:59:06,733 --> 00:59:10,800
IS JUST SO AMAZING TO ME.
1052
00:59:10,833 --> 00:59:11,800
Alice:
I REALLY WANTED TO MEET YOU.
1053
00:59:11,833 --> 00:59:12,800
I LOVE YOUR PHOTOGRAPHS.
1054
00:59:12,833 --> 00:59:14,400
- THANK YOU.
1055
00:59:14,433 --> 00:59:17,200
- WHEN I FIRST SAW THAT PHOTO,
I WAS REALLY BLOWN AWAY,
1056
00:59:17,233 --> 00:59:20,200
BECAUSE NEIL YOUNG SEEMS
VERY DIFFICULT TO PHOTOGRAPH,
1057
00:59:20,233 --> 00:59:23,467
AND I HAD THOUGHT
THAT WAS THE MOST IMAGINATIVE,
1058
00:59:23,500 --> 00:59:26,100
INVENTIVE PHOTOGRAPH.
1059
00:59:26,133 --> 00:59:29,367
I THINK A LOT OF PHOTOGRAPHY,
ESPECIALLY FOR WOMEN,
1060
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,500
IS LIKE YOU JUST
HAVE TO DO WHAT YOU DO.
1061
00:59:31,533 --> 00:59:33,767
MAYBE WE WERE WAY AHEAD
OF OUR TIMES WITH OUR VISION,
1062
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,400
YOU KNOW,
AS WOMEN SEE THINGS
1063
00:59:35,433 --> 00:59:39,533
FROM A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT
POINT OF VIEW THAN MEN DO.
1064
00:59:39,567 --> 00:59:41,100
- THANK YOU SO MUCH.
1065
00:59:41,133 --> 00:59:43,733
THAT'S ACTUALLY
ONE OF MY FAVORITES.
1066
00:59:43,767 --> 00:59:45,600
ARE YOU STILL
DOING PHOTOGRAPHY?
1067
00:59:45,633 --> 00:59:48,200
- YES.
- ALL RIGHT.
1068
00:59:48,233 --> 00:59:52,100
Jini: I NEVER HAVE HAD
BIG THOUGHTS OF,
1069
00:59:52,133 --> 00:59:53,733
"I HOPE THIS IS
GOING TO MAKE ME FAMOUS."
1070
00:59:53,767 --> 00:59:55,700
I'VE NEVER HAD
THAT KIND OF A THOUGHT.
1071
00:59:55,733 --> 00:59:57,533
- CAN YOU STAND THERE
JUST FOR A MINUTE?
1072
00:59:59,767 --> 01:00:01,433
Jini:
LOOK AT A PHOTOGRAPH
1073
01:00:01,467 --> 01:00:05,267
KIND OF THE SAME WAY
YOU LISTEN TO MUSIC.
1074
01:00:05,300 --> 01:00:09,400
AND IF IT'S OFF A LITTLE BIT,
YOU FIX IT;
1075
01:00:09,433 --> 01:00:13,233
AND IF YOU DON'T FIX IT,
IT'S GOING TO BE ROCK AND ROLL.
1076
01:00:13,267 --> 01:00:16,333
( laughter )
1077
01:00:16,367 --> 01:00:17,467
- WOW.
1078
01:00:34,467 --> 01:00:35,633
- YOU WANT TO DO THAT ONE?
1079
01:00:35,667 --> 01:00:37,500
- LET'S GIVE IT A GO,
FIRST PRACTICE.
1080
01:00:37,533 --> 01:00:38,500
THIS IS INFORMAL.
1081
01:00:47,533 --> 01:00:49,533
- THOSE ARE THE SONICS.
1082
01:00:49,567 --> 01:00:52,500
FRESH FACE, YOUNG.
1083
01:00:52,533 --> 01:00:54,167
- YEAH, YOUNG TALENT.
1084
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:57,200
- JINI, LET ME INTRODUCE YOU.
1085
01:00:57,233 --> 01:00:59,067
OKAY, THESE ARE
THE MOONDOGGIES.
1086
01:00:59,100 --> 01:01:00,167
THIS IS KEVIN.
1087
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:04,300
- KEVIN, HI.
YOU ARE A CUTIE.
1088
01:01:04,333 --> 01:01:06,467
I CAN FEEL IT.
1089
01:01:06,500 --> 01:01:07,633
- I'M CARL.
- CARL.
1090
01:01:07,667 --> 01:01:09,700
OH, BOY,
THAT'S MY HUSBAND'S NAME.
1091
01:01:09,733 --> 01:01:11,333
- OH, REALLY?
1092
01:01:11,367 --> 01:01:14,100
- YEAH, I LOVED HIM SO DEARLY,
SO I'LL LOVE YOU A LITTLE BIT.
1093
01:01:14,133 --> 01:01:17,267
( laughter )
HIS NAME WAS CARL.
1094
01:01:17,300 --> 01:01:19,267
WELL, ARE YOU
GOING TO SING FOR ME?
1095
01:01:19,300 --> 01:01:20,100
- SURE.
1096
01:01:20,133 --> 01:01:23,133
- GREAT,
I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT THAT,
1097
01:01:23,167 --> 01:01:26,367
BECAUSE THEY TELL ME YOU REALLY
ARE BEAUTIFUL SINGERS.
1098
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:29,400
- I HOPE SO.
- YEAH, I HOPE SO, TOO.
1099
01:01:29,433 --> 01:01:31,033
( laughter )
1100
01:01:31,067 --> 01:01:34,133
( music playing )
1101
01:01:39,533 --> 01:01:42,433
( singing )
1102
01:01:54,367 --> 01:01:57,433
- I NEVER HEARD ROCK AND ROLL,
TO KNOW IT,
1103
01:01:57,467 --> 01:02:01,067
WHEN I DID
THE FIRST ROUND OF PICTURES.
1104
01:02:01,100 --> 01:02:04,400
I WAS UNAWARE THAT THEY HAD TO
HAVE LONG HAIR.
1105
01:02:09,133 --> 01:02:17,200
* I KNOW THAT LATELY
I NEED TO ( indistinct ) *
1106
01:02:17,233 --> 01:02:24,167
* JUST DON'T RELY
ON THIS DOUBTFUL MIND *
1107
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:26,800
- MY FIRST JOB
WAS WITH A BAND.
1108
01:02:26,833 --> 01:02:29,400
I PLAYED SAXOPHONE,
1109
01:02:29,433 --> 01:02:31,433
AND SO I JUST THOUGHT
EVERYBODY THAT PLAYED,
1110
01:02:31,467 --> 01:02:33,267
IT WAS ALWAYS TO DANCING.
1111
01:02:33,300 --> 01:02:39,033
SO I HEARD TODAY
THAT ISN'T AS COMMON.
1112
01:02:39,067 --> 01:02:40,567
- IT'S USUALLY
SOMETHING SPECIAL.
1113
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:42,133
- YEAH.
1114
01:02:42,167 --> 01:02:44,233
- WHEN EVERYBODY STARTS DANCING
AND YOU'RE PLAYING,
1115
01:02:44,267 --> 01:02:47,233
YOU'RE LIKE,
"WOW, PEOPLE ARE DANCING."
1116
01:02:47,267 --> 01:02:49,033
- THAT'S WHAT EVERYONE DID.
1117
01:02:49,067 --> 01:02:53,500
WE HAD JUST REGULAR DANCES
THAT, YOU KNOW--
1118
01:02:53,533 --> 01:02:56,167
NOT THIS KIND.
1119
01:02:56,200 --> 01:03:00,533
* DON'T LET IT BOTHER YOU
1120
01:03:01,833 --> 01:03:08,067
* DON'T LET IT BOTHER YOU
1121
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:15,400
* DON'T LET IT BOTHER YOU
1122
01:03:17,100 --> 01:03:22,200
* YOU DON'T LET IT BOTHER YOU
1123
01:03:22,233 --> 01:03:24,133
- YEAH, DO YOU HAVE
ANYTHING IN MIND
1124
01:03:24,167 --> 01:03:26,167
FOR THE PHOTOGRAPHY TOMORROW?
1125
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:30,167
- WELL, I DON'T, AS FAR AS
SEEING A PICTURE IN MY MIND
1126
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:32,500
OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE.
1127
01:03:32,533 --> 01:03:35,367
ONE OF YOU
WITH THE GUITAR,
1128
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,133
WHETHER YOU WERE STRUMMING IT
OR HOLDING IT.
1129
01:03:38,167 --> 01:03:41,367
IT MAKES A VERY BEAUTIFUL
SPOT IN THE PICTURE,
1130
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,367
AND YOU IMMEDIATELY KNOW
YOU'RE LOOKING AT MUSICIANS.
1131
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:49,100
I THINK THE MAIN THING I WOULD
WANT TO KNOW FROM THE GROUP
1132
01:03:49,133 --> 01:03:51,033
IS IF YOU WOULD WANT
THE PICTURES
1133
01:03:51,067 --> 01:03:56,267
TO BE ONSTAGE OR OFFSTAGE
AND BE VERY CASUAL.
1134
01:03:56,300 --> 01:04:00,233
- WE DO THE SAME THING,
WHERE WE DON'T DO WELL POSING,
1135
01:04:00,267 --> 01:04:02,367
AND IT'S ALL
MY FAVORITE PICTURES
1136
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,367
HAVE BEEN PEOPLE
JUST HANGING OUT WITH US.
1137
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:06,767
- YEAH, YOU'RE
VERY ARTISTIC PEOPLE,
1138
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,600
AND YOU KIND OF KNOW
WHAT TO DO.
1139
01:04:09,633 --> 01:04:13,233
AND WHEN I LOOK AT YOU,
YOU'RE EACH ONE SO BEAUTIFUL.
1140
01:04:13,267 --> 01:04:17,067
I'D LOVE TO DO PICTURES
OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY,
1141
01:04:17,100 --> 01:04:19,267
AS WELL AS TOGETHER.
1142
01:04:19,300 --> 01:04:22,700
I KIND OF WAIT
FOR THE PICTURES TO HAPPEN,
1143
01:04:22,733 --> 01:04:28,167
AND I HAVE IN MY MIND
WHAT I HOPE WILL HAPPEN.
1144
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:29,533
- THIS MIGHT BE NICE.
1145
01:04:29,567 --> 01:04:30,767
- OH, THAT'S BEAUTIFUL.
1146
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:32,367
- TRAIN, AND YOU HAVE
THAT YELLOW BUILDING
1147
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:33,500
IN THE BACKGROUND.
1148
01:04:33,533 --> 01:04:35,633
- YEAH, THAT'S BEAUTIFUL!
1149
01:04:35,667 --> 01:04:36,800
- YEAH.
1150
01:04:36,833 --> 01:04:39,100
Lance:
BEING ABLE TO SEE JINI'S WORK
1151
01:04:39,133 --> 01:04:41,633
AND GETTING TO TALK TO HER,
1152
01:04:41,667 --> 01:04:46,233
YEAH, IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS
I'VE BEEN HUGELY INSPIRED,
1153
01:04:46,267 --> 01:04:48,233
AND IT REMINDS ME OF
WHY I DO WHAT I DO.
1154
01:04:48,267 --> 01:04:51,167
SO, I DON'T THINK I'M GOING TO
GIVE IT UP ANY TIME SOON.
1155
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:53,333
I'VE GOT A LONG WAYS TO GO.
1156
01:05:02,700 --> 01:05:11,100
* IT'S A LONG WAY DOWN
( indistinct ) *
1157
01:05:11,133 --> 01:05:19,767
* IT'S A DARK COLD GROUND
THAT'LL FINALLY COME AROUND *
1158
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:27,667
* LEAD ON
IT'S THE PRICE YOU PAY *
1159
01:05:27,700 --> 01:05:35,700
* ( indistinct )
AND THE THINGS WE SAY *
1160
01:05:35,733 --> 01:05:44,233
* THERE'S A LIGHT COMING FROM
THERE'S A LIGHT COMING THROUGH *
1161
01:05:44,267 --> 01:05:52,600
* IT'S A LONG WAY DOWN
DON'T GET TANGLED IN THE CROWD *
1162
01:05:52,633 --> 01:05:59,367
* IT'S A DARK COLD GROUND
THAT'LL FINALLY COME AROUND *
1163
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:01,500
Jini:
1164
01:06:01,533 --> 01:06:04,667
I DON'T FEEL OLD.
1165
01:06:04,700 --> 01:06:06,367
AND WHEN I WAS 40,
MY GOODNESS,
1166
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:08,633
I WAS LIKE A TEENAGER,
1167
01:06:08,667 --> 01:06:12,433
AND I THINK THAT WAS THE LOSS
OF THE SUCCESS OF MY WORK.
1168
01:06:12,467 --> 01:06:15,267
I NEVER FELT OLD.
1169
01:06:15,300 --> 01:06:16,067
LOOK DOWN.
1170
01:06:16,100 --> 01:06:19,000
I DON'T LIKE THE SUN
ON YOUR FACE.
1171
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:28,300
- SHE COULD BRING OUT THE BEAUTY
IN ANYTHING ON THE PLANET,
1172
01:06:28,333 --> 01:06:31,167
I THOUGHT, AND THAT'S
THE THREAD OF HER LEGACY.
1173
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:32,667
IT RUNS THROUGH PEOPLE.
1174
01:06:32,700 --> 01:06:34,100
IT RUNS THROUGH THINGS.
1175
01:06:34,133 --> 01:06:36,767
IT RUNS THROUGH ALL HER WORK.
1176
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:38,300
Doug: SUDDENLY,
I SEE HER AS A PERSON
1177
01:06:38,333 --> 01:06:40,200
IN A WAY
I DIDN'T SEE HER THEN,
1178
01:06:40,233 --> 01:06:43,233
BECAUSE I WAS, FRANKLY,
JUST A KID,
1179
01:06:43,267 --> 01:06:46,400
AND JINI SAW THAT ENERGY
IN ROCK AND ROLL
1180
01:06:46,433 --> 01:06:47,733
AND PARTICIPATED IN IT,
1181
01:06:47,767 --> 01:06:52,033
WHEN ALMOST EVERYBODY ELSE
WAS AFRAID OF IT, I THINK.
1182
01:06:52,067 --> 01:06:53,033
- RIGHT HERE FOR YOU.
1183
01:06:53,067 --> 01:06:54,467
LET ME JUST CHECK.
1184
01:06:54,500 --> 01:06:58,367
- CATALDO, BE AWARE
THAT I CAN'T ALWAYS SEE YOU,
1185
01:06:58,400 --> 01:06:59,733
AND I WANT TO SEE YOU.
1186
01:06:59,767 --> 01:07:01,200
YOU'RE IMPORTANT.
1187
01:07:03,433 --> 01:07:07,233
* YOU SEE WHAT I SEE
1188
01:07:07,267 --> 01:07:11,133
* PEOPLE DANCING
AROUND THE STREET *
1189
01:07:12,733 --> 01:07:15,800
* ( indistinct )
1190
01:07:15,833 --> 01:07:17,467
Chuck: I DON'T KNOW
THAT JINI WOULD SAY
1191
01:07:17,500 --> 01:07:21,100
THAT SHE EVER HAD
A SPECIFIC STYLE.
1192
01:07:21,133 --> 01:07:25,200
HER OWN OR OTHERS.
1193
01:07:25,233 --> 01:07:28,767
SHE WAS JUST ABOUT THE JOY
OF PHOTOGRAPHY, REALLY.
1194
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:32,633
Jini:
FOR ME TO SAY WHO I AM
1195
01:07:32,667 --> 01:07:34,133
AND WITH ALL THE WONDERFUL
THINGS
1196
01:07:34,167 --> 01:07:36,433
THAT HAVE BEEN WRITTEN
ABOUT ME NOW,
1197
01:07:36,467 --> 01:07:42,133
I NEVER HAVE RECOGNIZED
THOSE THINGS IN MYSELF.
1198
01:07:42,167 --> 01:07:44,633
THE THING THAT I LOVE
THE MOST ABOUT MY LIFE
1199
01:07:44,667 --> 01:07:50,667
IS IT'S ALWAYS FULL OF MUSIC
COMING FROM EVERYWHERE.
1200
01:07:50,700 --> 01:07:53,100
* STRANGE IS NOT THE WORD
I'D USE *
1201
01:07:53,133 --> 01:07:56,533
* BECAUSE YOU BROUGHT ME
PLENTY OF LOVE *
1202
01:07:56,567 --> 01:08:02,167
* BUT I'M TAKING YOU DOWN
OFF MY SHELF *
1203
01:08:03,500 --> 01:08:06,700
* BECAUSE IT JUST
MAKES SENSE TO ME *
1204
01:08:06,733 --> 01:08:12,033
* BABY IT JUST
MAKES SENSE TO ME *
1205
01:08:12,067 --> 01:08:17,100
* BABY, IT JUST MAKES SENSE
TO ME *
1206
01:08:17,133 --> 01:08:20,800
* BABY, IT JUST MAKES SENSE TO
ME *
1207
01:08:20,833 --> 01:08:24,167
( music playing )
1208
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:30,533
* OUT RUNNING AROUND
( indistinct )
1209
01:08:30,567 --> 01:08:34,067
* A LADY ( indistinct )
1210
01:08:34,100 --> 01:08:37,133
* MADE FROM A PAPER KITE
1211
01:08:37,167 --> 01:08:43,633
* WE ASK HER WHY
( indistinct ) *
1212
01:08:43,667 --> 01:08:47,167
* SAID IF YOU WANT TO FLY
1213
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:50,600
* YOU'VE GOT TO GET
OFF THE GROUND *
1214
01:08:50,633 --> 01:08:54,533
* DON'T KNOW REALITY
1215
01:08:54,567 --> 01:08:57,800
* HEY, WE'VE GOT *
1216
01:08:57,833 --> 01:09:01,100
( indistinct ) *
1217
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,100
( music playing )
1218
01:09:18,833 --> 01:09:22,133
* ( indistinct )
1219
01:09:32,167 --> 01:09:35,633
* WE ASKED HIM WHY
1220
01:09:35,667 --> 01:09:38,667
* HE DID
SUCH A CRAZY THING *
1221
01:09:38,700 --> 01:09:42,100
* SAID IT WAS ONE
1222
01:09:42,133 --> 01:09:45,233
* ( indistinct )
1223
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:05,100
( music playing )
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