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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:16,119 --> 00:00:18,087 We must ensure that terrorists 4 00:00:18,156 --> 00:00:20,710 never acquire a nuclear weapon. 5 00:00:21,711 --> 00:00:23,023 This is the most immediate 6 00:00:23,092 --> 00:00:25,715 and extreme threat to global security. 7 00:00:25,784 --> 00:00:28,304 One terrorist with one nuclear weapon 8 00:00:28,373 --> 00:00:30,444 could unleash massive destruction. 9 00:00:32,308 --> 00:00:33,930 And we know that there is unsecured 10 00:00:33,999 --> 00:00:35,656 nuclear material across the globe. 11 00:00:37,106 --> 00:00:38,555 To protect our people, 12 00:00:38,624 --> 00:00:41,869 we must act with a sense of purpose without delay. 13 00:00:47,116 --> 00:00:49,773 There's been a security breach at a U.S. nuclear facility 14 00:00:49,842 --> 00:00:51,982 which is supposed to be one of the most 15 00:00:52,052 --> 00:00:54,019 secure sights in the world. 16 00:00:54,088 --> 00:00:55,917 They managed to break into the grounds 17 00:00:55,986 --> 00:00:59,128 surrounding the Y-12 National Security Complex in Tennessee, 18 00:00:59,197 --> 00:01:02,993 triggering the highest security alert there since 9/11. 19 00:01:03,063 --> 00:01:05,893 The country's largest stockpile 20 00:01:05,962 --> 00:01:09,138 of uranium for nuclear bombs in Oak Ridge, Tennessee. 21 00:01:09,207 --> 00:01:10,380 Take a look at this picture. 22 00:01:10,449 --> 00:01:12,520 Authorities say she 23 00:01:12,589 --> 00:01:15,627 an 82-year-old nun who they say cut through fences, 24 00:01:15,696 --> 00:01:17,215 got past high-tech security. 25 00:01:17,284 --> 00:01:18,940 I am Megan from Nevada. 26 00:01:19,009 --> 00:01:20,528 Sister Megan Rice and two others 27 00:01:20,597 --> 00:01:22,944 did what no one should be able to do. 28 00:01:23,013 --> 00:01:25,188 In the middle of the night using bolt cutters, 29 00:01:25,257 --> 00:01:27,156 the three breached the perimeter fence 30 00:01:27,225 --> 00:01:30,400 and then three more fences and motion detectors, 31 00:01:30,469 --> 00:01:32,885 reaching the building holding all that uranium. 32 00:01:32,954 --> 00:01:34,266 You have to be a little concerned 33 00:01:34,335 --> 00:01:37,166 when it's an octogenarian nun who helps you 34 00:01:37,235 --> 00:01:40,238 understand your nuclear weaknesses and security. 35 00:01:40,307 --> 00:01:42,240 The complex holds enough uranium 36 00:01:42,309 --> 00:01:44,414 to make 10,000 nuclear bombs. 37 00:01:44,483 --> 00:01:45,933 The place that is supposed to be 38 00:01:46,002 --> 00:01:50,317 one of the most secure places on the planet is not! 39 00:01:54,562 --> 00:01:55,805 They walked right in. 40 00:01:55,874 --> 00:01:57,255 They walked right up to the interior 41 00:01:57,324 --> 00:01:59,291 storage facilities holding the uranium. 42 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,328 They got so far inside the complex 43 00:02:01,397 --> 00:02:03,157 that they were able to lay hands 44 00:02:03,226 --> 00:02:06,436 on the nuclear materials storage facility inside there. 45 00:02:06,505 --> 00:02:09,853 And once they were inside, they prayed, they sang songs. 46 00:02:09,922 --> 00:02:11,131 They were just waiting for somebody 47 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,581 to notice them in the shoot-to-kill zone. 48 00:02:13,650 --> 00:02:15,411 They were there for an hour 49 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,551 before anybody came to arrest them. 50 00:02:17,620 --> 00:02:19,277 We're talking about what the New York Times 51 00:02:19,346 --> 00:02:23,212 described as the biggest security breach 52 00:02:23,281 --> 00:02:26,180 in the history of the nation's atomic complex. 53 00:02:29,218 --> 00:02:31,220 The three are all senior citizens, upper 50s, 54 00:02:31,289 --> 00:02:34,602 one in his 60s, and Megan Rice, a nun in her 80s. 55 00:02:34,671 --> 00:02:36,225 They didn't have any special knowledge, 56 00:02:36,294 --> 00:02:39,124 any special highly advanced tools to break in. 57 00:02:44,405 --> 00:02:46,580 Luckily, of course, they had no bad intent. 58 00:02:46,649 --> 00:02:47,891 In fact, here' 59 00:02:56,935 --> 00:02:58,074 I wouldn't have gone with the blood, 60 00:02:58,143 --> 00:03:00,732 but I'm not a peace activist, right? 61 00:03:00,801 --> 00:03:01,974 What do you think will happen? 62 00:03:02,043 --> 00:03:04,632 I mean, we're talking about an 83-year-old nun 63 00:03:04,701 --> 00:03:07,014 who says, "Look, I'm against nuclear weapons." 64 00:03:07,083 --> 00:03:09,085 This was a way for her to protest. 65 00:03:09,154 --> 00:03:10,983 What do you think the punishment should be for her? 66 00:03:11,052 --> 00:03:12,295 Rap on the hand with a ruler! 67 00:03:12,364 --> 00:03:14,124 Come on, old school Catholic. 68 00:03:15,333 --> 00:03:16,644 The trio now face the possibility 69 00:03:16,713 --> 00:03:18,888 of lengthy sentences in federal prison. 70 00:03:35,353 --> 00:03:37,182 Sister Megan, you've not disputed 71 00:03:37,251 --> 00:03:40,875 the fact that you breached security at Oak Ridge. 72 00:03:40,944 --> 00:03:43,809 We don't consider it a breach of security. 73 00:03:45,535 --> 00:03:47,227 I spoke to Sister Megan Rice 74 00:03:47,296 --> 00:03:50,575 a few weeks following the Y-12 break-in. 75 00:03:50,644 --> 00:03:52,404 She was free awaiting trial 76 00:03:52,473 --> 00:03:54,372 after a judge released her from jail. 77 00:03:55,580 --> 00:03:57,754 I don't think anyone was more surprised to hear 78 00:03:57,823 --> 00:04:01,413 about the security breach at Y-12 than I was. 79 00:04:01,482 --> 00:04:02,690 I'd been working on a film 80 00:04:02,759 --> 00:04:05,037 about nuclear disarmament activists, 81 00:04:05,106 --> 00:04:08,386 some of them Catholic nuns and priests who engage 82 00:04:08,455 --> 00:04:11,941 in Plowshares protests involving hammers and blood. 83 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,772 But I never met Sister Megan before, 84 00:04:15,841 --> 00:04:18,292 though I would soon learn there were far fewer 85 00:04:18,361 --> 00:04:21,502 than six degrees of separation between us. 86 00:04:28,302 --> 00:04:29,717 What does it say? 87 00:04:29,786 --> 00:04:32,168 I mean, I think the fact that an 82-year-old woman 88 00:04:32,237 --> 00:04:35,585 and two other people basically unarmed could get into 89 00:04:35,654 --> 00:04:40,659 the most top secret allegedly high security atomic plant 90 00:04:41,798 --> 00:04:44,042 that stockpiles highly enriched uranium. 91 00:04:44,111 --> 00:04:45,181 What does it say? 92 00:05:32,435 --> 00:05:35,852 This is the Y-12 National Security Complex. 93 00:05:35,921 --> 00:05:37,095 We are absolutely essential 94 00:05:37,164 --> 00:05:39,062 to the nation's security. 95 00:05:39,131 --> 00:05:42,411 Y-12 inspects, refurbishes, dismantles 96 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,242 and non-destructively tests the nation's nuclear arsenal. 97 00:05:46,311 --> 00:05:50,004 As the nation's Fort Knox for highly enriched uranium, 98 00:05:50,073 --> 00:05:53,422 Y-12 uses more than 60 years of safety 99 00:05:53,491 --> 00:05:57,011 and security experience to store special materials, 100 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,980 further reducing global nuclear threats. 101 00:06:00,049 --> 00:06:01,499 Was it easier to get on the property 102 00:06:01,568 --> 00:06:02,741 than what you thought it would be? 103 00:06:02,810 --> 00:06:05,951 Far, we were led miraculously. 104 00:06:08,402 --> 00:06:09,817 But it was difficult. 105 00:06:09,886 --> 00:06:12,820 But not as difficult as officials had believed. 106 00:06:12,889 --> 00:06:16,168 This is the Highly Enriched Uranium Materials Facility. 107 00:06:16,237 --> 00:06:18,585 This is a brand new facility at Y-12 108 00:06:18,654 --> 00:06:20,897 which was created for the safe, secure 109 00:06:20,966 --> 00:06:23,590 and efficient storage of highly enriched uranium. 110 00:06:23,659 --> 00:06:25,488 This facility is unique as it stores 111 00:06:25,557 --> 00:06:29,458 12,000 drums of material and 12,000 cans of material. 112 00:06:32,184 --> 00:06:33,565 Y-12 houses the nation's 113 00:06:33,634 --> 00:06:35,809 main supply of highly enriched uranium. 114 00:06:35,878 --> 00:06:38,605 Overall do you think the Y-12 plant 115 00:06:38,674 --> 00:06:40,089 is safe against terrorists? 116 00:06:40,158 --> 00:06:41,124 Absolutely. 117 00:06:41,193 --> 00:06:43,126 Our people are well trained. 118 00:06:43,195 --> 00:06:44,611 They're well equipped. 119 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,923 The American people can rest assured that this is 120 00:06:46,992 --> 00:06:49,995 one of the most well protected facilities in the world. 121 00:06:51,549 --> 00:06:52,895 How secure is this new facility? 122 00:06:52,964 --> 00:06:54,034 Very secure. 123 00:06:55,484 --> 00:06:57,486 Will it withstand an airplane crash? 124 00:06:57,555 --> 00:07:00,489 It'll withstand everything that DOE has determined 125 00:07:00,558 --> 00:07:02,594 to be an appropriate credible threat. 126 00:07:03,940 --> 00:07:06,115 The three activists used bolt cutters 127 00:07:06,184 --> 00:07:08,669 to cut through four chain link fences 128 00:07:08,738 --> 00:07:11,500 to reach the outside walls of this very building. 129 00:07:12,811 --> 00:07:14,226 Please rise and raise your right hand. 130 00:07:15,538 --> 00:07:16,815 Do you swear the testimony that you 131 00:07:19,197 --> 00:07:20,440 are about to give is the whole truth 132 00:07:20,509 --> 00:07:22,442 and nothing but the truth so help you God? 133 00:07:24,236 --> 00:07:25,548 This is one of those hearings 134 00:07:25,617 --> 00:07:27,516 that we occasionally have in Congress 135 00:07:27,585 --> 00:07:30,691 where we say together, 136 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,175 We're shocked. 137 00:07:32,244 --> 00:07:34,695 We're shocked that something like this could happen. 138 00:07:35,938 --> 00:07:39,700 When an 82-year-old pacifist nun 139 00:07:39,769 --> 00:07:43,290 gets to the inner sanctum of our weapons complex, 140 00:07:43,359 --> 00:07:46,569 you cannot say job well done. 141 00:07:46,638 --> 00:07:47,777 She's in the audience. 142 00:07:47,846 --> 00:07:49,572 Would you please stand up, ma'am? 143 00:07:51,816 --> 00:07:53,714 We want to thank you for pointing out 144 00:07:53,783 --> 00:07:58,029 some of the problems in our security. 145 00:07:58,098 --> 00:07:59,893 While I don't totally agree 146 00:07:59,962 --> 00:08:02,792 with your platform that you were espousing, 147 00:08:03,690 --> 00:08:06,071 I do thank you for bringing out 148 00:08:06,140 --> 00:08:09,074 the inadequacies of our security system 149 00:08:09,143 --> 00:08:10,904 and thank you for being here today. 150 00:08:12,630 --> 00:08:14,494 All they were worried about was the fact 151 00:08:14,563 --> 00:08:17,497 that somebody could get in so easily. 152 00:08:17,566 --> 00:08:18,877 And that could be anybody. 153 00:08:18,946 --> 00:08:21,086 That's not what we wanted to be thanked for. 154 00:08:21,155 --> 00:08:23,364 It's for exposing and opposing 155 00:08:23,433 --> 00:08:25,677 the existence of nuclear weapons. 156 00:08:28,300 --> 00:08:30,889 A stunned universe now swiftly learned 157 00:08:30,958 --> 00:08:33,858 that man had a new weapon of shocking destructiveness. 158 00:08:35,307 --> 00:08:37,689 This bomb, exploding over the north factory district, 159 00:08:37,758 --> 00:08:41,935 took the lives of 42,000 persons and injured 40,000 more. 160 00:08:42,004 --> 00:08:44,627 It destroyed 39% of all the buildings 161 00:08:44,696 --> 00:08:47,492 standing in Nagasaki before the calamity. 162 00:08:47,561 --> 00:08:50,633 We had an uncle, my mother's baby brother, 163 00:08:50,702 --> 00:08:55,707 was in the Marines and sent into Nagasaki in September 1945 164 00:08:57,226 --> 00:08:59,815 and stayed there for the next four months. 165 00:08:59,884 --> 00:09:04,889 So he witnessed the effects of the Nagasaki bomb 166 00:09:06,097 --> 00:09:07,857 Flash burns from primary heat waves 167 00:09:07,926 --> 00:09:10,411 caused most of the casualties to inhabitants. 168 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,035 Many persons lingered from two to six weeks 169 00:09:13,104 --> 00:09:14,830 before the onset of death. 170 00:09:14,899 --> 00:09:19,317 And he would explain to us the terrible effects 171 00:09:19,386 --> 00:09:23,493 and was totally convinced of how evil it was. 172 00:09:23,563 --> 00:09:24,978 Blood would not coagulate 173 00:09:25,047 --> 00:09:27,014 and oozed through unbroken skin 174 00:09:27,083 --> 00:09:29,983 or seeped into many of the interior body cavities. 175 00:09:32,848 --> 00:09:35,575 Before she became a peace activist, 176 00:09:35,644 --> 00:09:38,578 Sister Megan devoted her life to education. 177 00:09:38,647 --> 00:09:41,891 She taught science to girls and trained other teachers 178 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:46,344 in West Africa, in Nigeria and Ghana for 40 years. 179 00:09:46,413 --> 00:09:51,418 My conviction has grown over the decades 180 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:57,976 of the sacredness of all of life and all of creation. 181 00:09:59,219 --> 00:10:02,912 In the 70 years since 1943, 182 00:10:02,981 --> 00:10:07,330 10 trillion dollars has been spent on this industry alone 183 00:10:08,538 --> 00:10:10,195 and we just can't imagine what could 184 00:10:10,264 --> 00:10:13,647 have been done with 10 trillion dollars. 185 00:10:13,716 --> 00:10:14,924 And there it goes, 186 00:10:14,993 --> 00:10:17,478 Polaris on the way with a nuclear warhead. 187 00:10:17,547 --> 00:10:18,928 It's got to stop. 188 00:10:18,997 --> 00:10:23,070 We have to use these resources for life enhancement. 189 00:10:25,625 --> 00:10:27,627 They're sabotaging the planet. 190 00:10:31,458 --> 00:10:33,874 The entire planet is being sabotaged 191 00:10:35,255 --> 00:10:38,810 by the existence of weapons of mass destruction. 192 00:10:50,650 --> 00:10:53,100 By the purpose for which they were made, 193 00:10:53,169 --> 00:10:57,795 each one is meant to be exploded and to kill. 194 00:10:59,348 --> 00:11:02,040 Mr. Chairman, that young lady there 195 00:11:02,109 --> 00:11:03,559 brought a Holy Bible. 196 00:11:04,594 --> 00:11:06,735 If she had been a terrorist, 197 00:11:06,804 --> 00:11:09,807 the Lord only knows what could have happened. 198 00:11:09,876 --> 00:11:10,739 - Thank you, ma'am. - The gentle lady 199 00:11:10,808 --> 00:11:12,533 can sit down if she likes. 200 00:11:13,569 --> 00:11:14,674 The gentle lady from Tennessee 201 00:11:14,743 --> 00:11:16,158 is recognized for five minutes. 202 00:11:16,227 --> 00:11:21,232 The ineptness and the negligence is mind-boggling. 203 00:11:21,819 --> 00:11:23,683 We are appalled. 204 00:11:23,752 --> 00:11:25,339 It's inexcusable, it's appalling. 205 00:11:25,408 --> 00:11:26,858 The language the committee has used here, 206 00:11:26,927 --> 00:11:28,135 I would agree with. 207 00:11:28,204 --> 00:11:30,137 We had a breakdown up and down the chain, 208 00:11:30,206 --> 00:11:32,312 including a sense of complacency 209 00:11:32,381 --> 00:11:33,796 that something like this could not happen. 210 00:11:33,865 --> 00:11:35,556 Were the cameras new or old? 211 00:11:35,625 --> 00:11:37,075 Some of the equipment was fairly new. 212 00:11:37,144 --> 00:11:38,318 Many of the cameras 213 00:11:38,387 --> 00:11:40,354 or some of the cameras were not operable. 214 00:11:40,423 --> 00:11:42,184 How long were these cameras, 215 00:11:42,253 --> 00:11:44,531 these critical cameras, not operable? 216 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:45,774 Could you tell that? 217 00:11:45,843 --> 00:11:48,777 There were elements of the security apparatus 218 00:11:48,846 --> 00:11:50,986 that were inoperable for at least six months 219 00:11:51,055 --> 00:11:52,401 and probably beyond that. 220 00:11:52,470 --> 00:11:54,334 And the contractors were responsible? 221 00:11:54,403 --> 00:11:55,611 Correct 222 00:11:55,680 --> 00:11:57,613 And we pay them significant fees 223 00:11:57,682 --> 00:11:58,890 to do this. We do. 224 00:11:58,959 --> 00:12:00,581 And then the onsite government employees 225 00:12:00,650 --> 00:12:02,998 who are overseeing the contractors also have responsibility, 226 00:12:03,067 --> 00:12:05,621 'cause they failed to catch this, is that correct? 227 00:12:05,690 --> 00:12:07,140 They do. 228 00:12:07,209 --> 00:12:10,039 Camera maintenance was not prioritized as to be fixed. 229 00:12:10,108 --> 00:12:12,317 Our federal oversight should have caught that. 230 00:12:12,386 --> 00:12:13,698 What was wrong with the cameras? 231 00:12:13,767 --> 00:12:16,218 Those two particular cameras that were out, 232 00:12:16,287 --> 00:12:19,014 one was an inner workings of the camera. 233 00:12:19,083 --> 00:12:20,843 It took 24 hours to fix that. 234 00:12:20,912 --> 00:12:22,603 The other one was a trip switch 235 00:12:22,672 --> 00:12:24,226 that had to be just flipped on. 236 00:12:24,295 --> 00:12:26,815 So all they had to do was look at it 237 00:12:28,333 --> 00:12:30,094 and go like that and that camera would have worked again? 238 00:12:30,163 --> 00:12:31,336 That's what my inspectors 239 00:12:31,405 --> 00:12:32,027 are telling me. But it was down 240 00:12:32,096 --> 00:12:33,166 for six months. 241 00:12:34,270 --> 00:12:36,928 Underlying it all is profiteering. 242 00:12:36,997 --> 00:12:38,274 The people who make the money 243 00:12:38,343 --> 00:12:41,036 are the contractors who do this work. 244 00:12:41,105 --> 00:12:43,624 B&W Y-12 responsible for delaying 245 00:12:43,693 --> 00:12:45,454 the repair of cameras for months 246 00:12:45,523 --> 00:12:47,352 and failing to do the required maintenance 247 00:12:47,421 --> 00:12:49,182 that would have reduced the rate 248 00:12:49,251 --> 00:12:53,013 of false alarms received as a rating of excellent 249 00:12:53,082 --> 00:12:55,913 for its safeguards and security work, 250 00:12:55,982 --> 00:13:00,952 contributing to B&W Y-12 receiving $51 million 251 00:13:02,126 --> 00:13:05,163 in incentive fee for fiscal year 2011. 252 00:13:05,232 --> 00:13:07,062 We have to do something. 253 00:13:07,131 --> 00:13:09,374 We can't just continue pouring money 254 00:13:09,443 --> 00:13:12,067 into the pockets of the profiteers. 255 00:13:12,136 --> 00:13:13,689 I don't understand why these individuals 256 00:13:13,758 --> 00:13:15,864 are free to be here in the hearing room today. 257 00:13:15,933 --> 00:13:17,555 Why are they not incarcerated? 258 00:13:17,624 --> 00:13:19,039 My understanding is they've been charged 259 00:13:19,108 --> 00:13:21,904 with both criminal trespass, which is a misdemeanor, 260 00:13:21,973 --> 00:13:24,389 and destruction of federal property, which is a felony. 261 00:13:24,458 --> 00:13:26,875 What is to prevent them from doing the very same thing 262 00:13:26,944 --> 00:13:28,773 tomorrow night or the night after? 263 00:13:28,842 --> 00:13:31,396 As Sister Megan was facing fire, 264 00:13:31,465 --> 00:13:34,089 what I wanted to know was how did a nun 265 00:13:34,158 --> 00:13:36,539 who spent half her life in Africa 266 00:13:36,608 --> 00:13:38,887 find herself in this situation? 267 00:13:38,956 --> 00:13:40,267 I want to thank Sister Rice 268 00:13:40,336 --> 00:13:43,098 and the other people for coming today. 269 00:13:43,167 --> 00:13:46,756 I apologize you won't be allowed to testify. 270 00:13:46,826 --> 00:13:50,519 If lawmakers had invited Sister Megan to testify, 271 00:13:50,588 --> 00:13:54,350 they might have heard about the incident 2,000 miles away 272 00:13:54,419 --> 00:13:57,595 that actually inspired her to break into Y-12. 273 00:13:57,664 --> 00:14:00,736 Tell me about your connection to the people out in Tacoma. 274 00:14:00,805 --> 00:14:02,600 How did that all come about? 275 00:14:02,669 --> 00:14:07,536 And so they, these five people, I could name them. 276 00:14:07,605 --> 00:14:11,920 Father Bill Bichsel, Sister Anne Montgomery was then 84, 277 00:14:11,989 --> 00:14:15,751 Father Bichsel was maybe 82. 278 00:14:15,820 --> 00:14:16,648 And then... 279 00:14:28,281 --> 00:14:29,592 We have to take a stand. 280 00:14:29,661 --> 00:14:31,594 The people have to take a stand 281 00:14:31,663 --> 00:14:36,013 to force governments into doing what is humanely correct, 282 00:14:36,082 --> 00:14:37,773 to eliminate these things. 283 00:14:39,016 --> 00:14:40,189 They're killing people already 284 00:14:40,258 --> 00:14:42,812 because of the diversion of resources 285 00:14:42,882 --> 00:14:45,194 going into weapons of destruction 286 00:14:45,263 --> 00:14:49,440 rather than healthcare, education, 287 00:14:49,509 --> 00:14:52,650 employment, housing, food. 288 00:14:52,719 --> 00:14:55,411 Things that people need to live a human life. 289 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,759 Hey, tell me, how are you? 290 00:14:58,828 --> 00:14:59,968 If you spend any time 291 00:15:00,037 --> 00:15:02,694 among Tacoma's poor or marginalized, 292 00:15:02,763 --> 00:15:05,835 you're more than likely to run into Father Bill Bichsel. 293 00:15:05,905 --> 00:15:09,115 He's known as Father Bix or just plain Bix. 294 00:15:09,184 --> 00:15:12,359 He's an 82-year-old Catholic priest, a Jesuit, 295 00:15:12,428 --> 00:15:13,982 and for more than 40 years, 296 00:15:14,051 --> 00:15:17,433 he's devoted his life to helping those in need. 297 00:15:17,502 --> 00:15:20,574 We have about five houses here. 298 00:15:20,643 --> 00:15:24,130 We take in people for varying lengths of time, 299 00:15:24,199 --> 00:15:26,960 so depending on what their needs might be. 300 00:15:27,927 --> 00:15:29,376 Those who have been homeless, 301 00:15:29,445 --> 00:15:32,483 to help them to transition to something better. 302 00:15:32,552 --> 00:15:34,761 We live by what people give to us. 303 00:15:36,073 --> 00:15:37,488 During the Depression, 304 00:15:37,557 --> 00:15:40,491 nobody had anything or a window to throw it out of, 305 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:45,013 as my mother used to say, but there was a cohesiveness. 306 00:15:45,082 --> 00:15:46,255 I think it's worse now. 307 00:15:46,324 --> 00:15:48,948 I think people are more separated. 308 00:15:49,017 --> 00:15:51,502 He's helped our family a long time ago 309 00:15:51,571 --> 00:15:52,848 when we were homeless. 310 00:15:52,917 --> 00:15:55,402 We were in the streets and he gave us shelter. 311 00:15:55,471 --> 00:15:58,509 By being with the poor, you receive direction. 312 00:15:58,578 --> 00:16:00,718 It is a kind of a call to action. 313 00:16:01,581 --> 00:16:03,686 Together we can do something. 314 00:16:03,755 --> 00:16:06,206 We don't have to live in this deep deprivation 315 00:16:06,275 --> 00:16:08,243 when God's creation is bountiful 316 00:16:08,312 --> 00:16:09,727 and intended for all people. 317 00:16:12,109 --> 00:16:14,939 While Father Bix may have lots of admirers. 318 00:16:15,008 --> 00:16:15,905 Very good to see you. 319 00:16:15,975 --> 00:16:17,079 Good to see you. 320 00:16:17,148 --> 00:16:18,046 He's also been a headache 321 00:16:18,115 --> 00:16:19,495 for government authorities 322 00:16:19,564 --> 00:16:22,326 because of his persistent nonviolent protests 323 00:16:22,395 --> 00:16:23,844 against war funding 324 00:16:23,913 --> 00:16:26,295 and specifically nuclear weapons funding. 325 00:16:31,714 --> 00:16:34,062 About 40 miles north of where he lives, 326 00:16:34,131 --> 00:16:37,997 the Kitsap Bangor Naval Base sprawls over 6,000 acres. 327 00:16:38,066 --> 00:16:39,584 It's the home port for eight 328 00:16:39,653 --> 00:16:42,863 of America's 14 Trident nuclear submarines. 329 00:16:44,175 --> 00:16:46,488 That pool of eight ballistic missile submarines 330 00:16:46,557 --> 00:16:48,662 that operates out of Bangor, 331 00:16:48,731 --> 00:16:53,012 that is the most powerful military force on the planet. 332 00:16:53,081 --> 00:16:54,841 Hans Kristensen is one of the country's 333 00:16:54,910 --> 00:16:57,637 leading experts on nuclear weapons. 334 00:16:57,706 --> 00:16:59,328 He says the Bangor Naval Base 335 00:16:59,397 --> 00:17:01,606 also houses the largest stockpile 336 00:17:01,675 --> 00:17:04,195 of operational nuclear warheads in the U.S. 337 00:17:05,300 --> 00:17:06,715 Well, we estimate that there is 338 00:17:06,784 --> 00:17:11,375 about 1,300 nuclear warheads at the storage facility 339 00:17:11,444 --> 00:17:14,171 and on board the submarines combined. 340 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:15,103 It's an estimate. 341 00:17:15,172 --> 00:17:16,518 There are no official numbers. 342 00:17:16,587 --> 00:17:18,347 You can't go to a government website 343 00:17:18,416 --> 00:17:20,591 or say exactly what's there, because it's a secret. 344 00:17:35,778 --> 00:17:37,780 And just building 12 submarines 345 00:17:37,849 --> 00:17:40,231 is gonna cost over $100 billion. 346 00:17:42,164 --> 00:17:43,786 The B stands for ballistic missile, 347 00:17:43,855 --> 00:17:46,789 the N stands for nuclear, meaning it's nuclear powered, 348 00:17:46,858 --> 00:17:49,930 and the SS is what we use to denote submarines. 349 00:17:52,692 --> 00:17:57,317 The SSBNs feature the Trident II D-5 missile system. 350 00:17:57,386 --> 00:17:59,595 It's the most incredible strategic deterrent 351 00:17:59,664 --> 00:18:01,908 ever fielded in the history of the world. 352 00:18:01,977 --> 00:18:04,152 It is the most powerful weapon 353 00:18:04,221 --> 00:18:06,982 in the possession of human beings today. 354 00:18:07,051 --> 00:18:08,432 There is no comparison. 355 00:18:08,501 --> 00:18:10,434 Request permission to authenticate message one. 356 00:18:10,503 --> 00:18:12,160 The launch is authorized. 357 00:18:12,229 --> 00:18:13,161 Once we're underway, 358 00:18:14,714 --> 00:18:16,888 the submarine in and of itself would rate probably 359 00:18:16,957 --> 00:18:20,651 about the fifth most powerful nuclear nation in the world. 360 00:18:22,411 --> 00:18:25,276 One submarine has enough capability 361 00:18:25,345 --> 00:18:30,178 to end modern countries as we know them. 362 00:18:32,594 --> 00:18:34,009 I'm horrified. 363 00:18:34,078 --> 00:18:37,323 Is living with these things that are indiscriminate killers 364 00:18:37,392 --> 00:18:39,635 where we've seen the proliferation of weapons 365 00:18:39,704 --> 00:18:41,327 continue throughout our globe, 366 00:18:41,396 --> 00:18:43,984 are these things really bringing security? 367 00:18:46,849 --> 00:18:49,369 More and more nations are arming themselves 368 00:18:49,438 --> 00:18:51,509 or have the ability to arm themselves. 369 00:18:51,578 --> 00:18:54,995 So we're much worse off now than we were 20 years ago 370 00:18:55,064 --> 00:18:57,860 as far as the nuclear exchange. 371 00:19:06,662 --> 00:19:08,043 I think when people talk about 372 00:19:08,112 --> 00:19:10,942 that the world is more dangerous, it's perhaps that 373 00:19:12,254 --> 00:19:14,981 you can get into a conventional shootout 374 00:19:16,431 --> 00:19:19,468 that is a limited war that quickly escalates 375 00:19:19,537 --> 00:19:23,092 into nuclear threats and potential nuclear use. 376 00:19:23,162 --> 00:19:24,473 Launcher closure door open. 377 00:19:24,542 --> 00:19:26,510 And so at some point the public 378 00:19:26,579 --> 00:19:28,926 might just wake up to a real surprise 379 00:19:30,376 --> 00:19:33,344 that suddenly a crisis has gotten a lot hotter 380 00:19:33,413 --> 00:19:35,450 and a lot more dangerous than they expected. 381 00:19:37,555 --> 00:19:39,454 And are all the nuclear armed states 382 00:19:39,523 --> 00:19:42,353 preparing to modernize their arsenals? 383 00:19:42,422 --> 00:19:44,459 Every single one of them is busy 384 00:19:44,528 --> 00:19:46,323 modernizing their nuclear arsenal. 385 00:19:52,156 --> 00:19:53,985 I'm trying to be a part of what 386 00:19:54,054 --> 00:19:56,402 would bring about a peaceful world. 387 00:19:56,471 --> 00:19:59,370 If I would die today, I would feel okay 388 00:19:59,439 --> 00:20:01,407 about what I've been trying to do. 389 00:20:01,476 --> 00:20:04,548 He has, on occasion, chained himself to doors, 390 00:20:04,617 --> 00:20:07,965 he's climbed trees, he's cut fences, 391 00:20:08,034 --> 00:20:10,070 knowing full well that there are some consequences 392 00:20:10,139 --> 00:20:12,556 and always willing to pay that price. 393 00:20:16,145 --> 00:20:18,665 I've asked him, "Is this the best use of your time?" 394 00:20:18,734 --> 00:20:21,047 His response was, "Yes, it is the best use of my time 395 00:20:21,116 --> 00:20:23,670 "and there's plenty of people in jail who need ministering." 396 00:20:28,744 --> 00:20:30,401 Since the late 1970s, 397 00:20:30,470 --> 00:20:34,543 Father Bix, along with thousands of other peace activists, 398 00:20:34,612 --> 00:20:38,306 have waged a campaign to raise public awareness 399 00:20:38,375 --> 00:20:40,169 on the catastrophic capabilities 400 00:20:40,239 --> 00:20:43,483 of the nuclear weapons system aboard the Trident submarine. 401 00:20:51,388 --> 00:20:54,011 The nerve center for the activists' campaign 402 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,772 is the Ground Zero Center For Nonviolent Action, 403 00:20:56,841 --> 00:20:58,222 known as Ground Zero. 404 00:20:59,396 --> 00:21:02,226 Its backyard borders the naval base's property, 405 00:21:02,295 --> 00:21:05,022 with a chain link fence separating the two. 406 00:21:08,922 --> 00:21:11,339 What's right here is the largest concentration, 407 00:21:11,408 --> 00:21:14,445 so far as we know, of deployed nuclear weapons 408 00:21:14,514 --> 00:21:18,173 anywhere outside of Russia and maybe anywhere in the world. 409 00:21:18,242 --> 00:21:19,692 Anyone who walks in the door 410 00:21:19,761 --> 00:21:23,316 receives an education from Dr. David Hall about the base 411 00:21:23,385 --> 00:21:26,906 and the nuclear weapons stored, literally, in the backyard. 412 00:21:26,975 --> 00:21:30,358 Hall is a medical doctor and longtime activist. 413 00:21:30,427 --> 00:21:32,808 He's also the former national president 414 00:21:32,877 --> 00:21:35,639 of Physicians for Social Responsibility. 415 00:21:35,708 --> 00:21:38,193 There is no cure for the use 416 00:21:38,262 --> 00:21:40,609 of a nuclear weapon, only prevention. 417 00:21:40,678 --> 00:21:42,335 That's why we here in the state of Washington 418 00:21:42,404 --> 00:21:45,718 have particular responsibility to stand 419 00:21:45,787 --> 00:21:47,582 and try to make these weapons visible, 420 00:21:47,651 --> 00:21:50,964 try to help the folks on the base keep them safe. 421 00:21:52,380 --> 00:21:54,451 This is the nuclear weapon bunkers, 422 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,211 right down here at the bottom. 423 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,041 And that shows you how close this is to downtown Seattle. 424 00:21:59,110 --> 00:22:01,699 It's about 20 air miles to downtown Seattle. 425 00:22:04,875 --> 00:22:06,808 The Pier, here's the Delta Pier here, 426 00:22:06,877 --> 00:22:09,638 which is where the subs actually are processed. 427 00:22:11,330 --> 00:22:13,849 The warships here are Trident class 428 00:22:13,918 --> 00:22:15,230 and there's eight of them. 429 00:22:17,059 --> 00:22:20,062 One of these weapons wipes out everything I stand for 430 00:22:20,131 --> 00:22:22,962 and everything I do instantaneously. 431 00:22:23,031 --> 00:22:27,346 To ignore what I know about these weapons is to 432 00:22:28,795 --> 00:22:31,108 betray my profession. 433 00:22:32,903 --> 00:22:35,181 The peanut bomb that we dropped on Hiroshima 434 00:22:35,250 --> 00:22:37,079 killed 100,000 people outright 435 00:22:37,148 --> 00:22:41,187 and flattened everything that wasn't steel and concrete. 436 00:22:41,256 --> 00:22:46,261 One W88 nuclear warhead carried by the Trident subs 437 00:22:47,469 --> 00:22:48,505 is 30 times the Hiroshima weapon. 438 00:22:49,540 --> 00:22:51,300 These are survivor paintings 439 00:22:51,370 --> 00:22:52,957 of what it was like in Hiroshima. 440 00:22:58,169 --> 00:23:00,068 So this is the NUKEMAP. 441 00:23:00,137 --> 00:23:01,380 As you can see, it uses 442 00:23:01,449 --> 00:23:06,039 the Google Earth engine to render the world. 443 00:23:07,455 --> 00:23:11,010 Alex Wellerstein is a nuclear weapons historian. 444 00:23:11,079 --> 00:23:13,771 He created the interactive NUKEMAP. 445 00:23:16,187 --> 00:23:18,258 What we're gonna do first is 446 00:23:18,327 --> 00:23:21,503 target our bomb here on New York. 447 00:23:23,402 --> 00:23:25,369 This is the Hiroshima bomb 448 00:23:25,438 --> 00:23:28,510 and now this is the Trident bomb. 449 00:23:29,856 --> 00:23:33,273 That's a 455-kiloton weapon on midtown Manhattan 450 00:23:33,342 --> 00:23:36,932 with about 1.6 million fatalities, 451 00:23:37,001 --> 00:23:39,210 about 2.4 million injuries. 452 00:23:39,279 --> 00:23:40,419 What it's done is taken 453 00:23:40,488 --> 00:23:43,076 a population density map of the region 454 00:23:43,145 --> 00:23:45,320 and then applied various calculations to it 455 00:23:45,389 --> 00:23:47,253 based on the effects of the nuclear weapons. 456 00:23:47,322 --> 00:23:48,979 These calculations are derived 457 00:23:49,048 --> 00:23:52,396 from official government reports during the Cold War. 458 00:23:52,465 --> 00:23:54,053 And that's only from one detonation. 459 00:23:54,122 --> 00:23:55,848 If we imagine nuclear war, 460 00:23:55,917 --> 00:23:59,092 we're talking about many more than just one. 461 00:23:59,161 --> 00:24:00,853 My major motivation for the NUKEMAP 462 00:24:00,922 --> 00:24:03,890 was to help people wrap their heads around the bomb. 463 00:24:03,959 --> 00:24:07,998 The bomb can seem so abstract. 464 00:24:08,067 --> 00:24:11,311 The idea of the bomb can overwhelm people. 465 00:24:11,380 --> 00:24:14,176 They have a very hard time thinking about it concretely. 466 00:24:16,351 --> 00:24:18,664 Anything that helps people understand 467 00:24:18,733 --> 00:24:22,668 that these are physical objects in the world, 468 00:24:22,737 --> 00:24:26,568 that they can detonate and these can have real effects. 469 00:24:34,576 --> 00:24:36,164 The commander of the submarine 470 00:24:36,233 --> 00:24:39,063 that shoots that weapon is responsible 471 00:24:40,479 --> 00:24:44,241 for observing and complying with the law of armed conflict. 472 00:24:44,310 --> 00:24:45,829 Tom Rogers retired 473 00:24:45,898 --> 00:24:49,453 after serving 31 years in the U.S. Navy. 474 00:24:49,522 --> 00:24:53,008 He used to command submarines that carried nuclear weapons. 475 00:24:53,077 --> 00:24:55,563 Now he's an activist at Ground Zero. 476 00:24:55,632 --> 00:24:59,359 The law of armed conflict requires belligerents 477 00:24:59,428 --> 00:25:04,295 to observe the rules and principles of humanitarian law. 478 00:25:05,504 --> 00:25:08,196 First of all, you must discriminate 479 00:25:08,265 --> 00:25:10,647 between combatants and noncombatants, 480 00:25:11,786 --> 00:25:14,064 and you can't cause undue suffering 481 00:25:15,444 --> 00:25:17,067 and you can't destroy the earth 482 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:19,897 and you can't commit genocide. 483 00:25:21,865 --> 00:25:26,317 And when I relate that to a 455-kiloton nuclear warhead, 484 00:25:31,426 --> 00:25:33,497 you can't get there from here. 485 00:25:34,878 --> 00:25:39,883 It's by definition such destructive power 486 00:25:41,574 --> 00:25:43,680 that there's no discrimination. 487 00:25:43,749 --> 00:25:48,512 Everything within miles is vaporized. 488 00:25:48,581 --> 00:25:51,480 And for that reason I strongly feel 489 00:25:51,550 --> 00:25:55,726 that use of a nuclear weapon is unlawful. 490 00:26:06,323 --> 00:26:09,602 A nuclear exchange would result in the death 491 00:26:09,671 --> 00:26:12,536 of tens of millions of people, 492 00:26:12,605 --> 00:26:16,678 both American and whoever else we're fighting with today. 493 00:26:16,747 --> 00:26:18,369 It would devastate the earth 494 00:26:18,438 --> 00:26:21,683 and it would end civilization as we know it. 495 00:26:23,271 --> 00:26:26,930 I don't trust us to have that capability and not use it. 496 00:26:29,691 --> 00:26:31,382 The citation's inside there. 497 00:26:31,451 --> 00:26:32,867 So they gave you a court date? 498 00:26:32,936 --> 00:26:34,109 Not yet, but they will. 499 00:26:34,178 --> 00:26:35,594 Yeah, they will give you a court date. 500 00:26:35,663 --> 00:26:36,733 Is that the way it usually works? 501 00:26:36,802 --> 00:26:37,699 Yeah. 502 00:26:37,768 --> 00:26:40,150 Whoa, okay. 503 00:26:40,219 --> 00:26:43,498 The normal means of influencing 504 00:26:43,567 --> 00:26:47,675 public policy have fallen on deaf ears. 505 00:26:47,744 --> 00:26:50,885 You can write all the emails you want. 506 00:26:50,954 --> 00:26:53,922 You can vote for the people you want to vote for, 507 00:26:53,991 --> 00:26:58,271 but the corporate Congressional complex 508 00:26:58,340 --> 00:26:59,790 is calling the shots. 509 00:26:59,859 --> 00:27:04,726 The only way that the folks at Ground Zero have found 510 00:27:04,795 --> 00:27:09,800 to bring attention to what's going on is to engage 511 00:27:11,181 --> 00:27:13,286 in nonviolent direct action at the base at Bangor, 512 00:27:13,355 --> 00:27:16,255 because that's where we live and that's where the bombs are. 513 00:27:17,636 --> 00:27:18,844 One up the fence line. 514 00:27:18,913 --> 00:27:20,224 One up the fence line went through the gate! 515 00:27:22,951 --> 00:27:24,332 Three times a year, 516 00:27:24,401 --> 00:27:27,438 on the anniversary of the Hiroshima bombing, Mother's Day, 517 00:27:27,507 --> 00:27:30,338 and Dr. Martin Luther King, Junior's birthday, 518 00:27:30,407 --> 00:27:32,374 the activists walk a few hundred yards 519 00:27:32,443 --> 00:27:35,136 from Ground Zero to the naval base's front gate, 520 00:27:35,205 --> 00:27:37,276 where they stage their protests. 521 00:27:37,345 --> 00:27:41,176 Some will block traffic and face arrest by county police. 522 00:27:41,245 --> 00:27:44,283 Others will trespass onto the naval base property 523 00:27:44,352 --> 00:27:46,181 by crossing this blue line 524 00:27:46,250 --> 00:27:49,391 and face more serious federal charges. 525 00:28:00,057 --> 00:28:01,956 This is the fence that keeps us 526 00:28:02,025 --> 00:28:04,544 out of the Bangor submarine base, 527 00:28:04,613 --> 00:28:09,618 where just probably 100 yards or 150 yards beyond 528 00:28:10,792 --> 00:28:12,449 is where the nuclear weapons are stored. 529 00:28:13,622 --> 00:28:15,659 We're hanging this as a sign that peace 530 00:28:15,728 --> 00:28:18,351 is much stronger than weapons of death. 531 00:28:27,188 --> 00:28:31,848 This is a map of the base, the Bangor submarine base. 532 00:28:31,917 --> 00:28:33,366 This is from Google. 533 00:28:33,435 --> 00:28:34,747 How did you use this map? 534 00:28:34,816 --> 00:28:36,542 We didn't carry the map in with us, 535 00:28:36,611 --> 00:28:37,854 but we had a pretty good idea 536 00:28:37,923 --> 00:28:41,064 once we had studied it where the roads were. 537 00:28:41,133 --> 00:28:42,824 How did you get involved? 538 00:28:42,893 --> 00:28:44,377 Holy socks. 539 00:28:44,446 --> 00:28:47,829 I'm not totally sure, but here is what happened to me. 540 00:28:47,898 --> 00:28:51,695 I had not been involved in a Plowshares action as such. 541 00:28:51,764 --> 00:28:53,835 So there was this group with Steve Kelly 542 00:28:53,904 --> 00:28:57,874 and Anne Montgomery and Susan Crane and Lynne Greenwald. 543 00:28:57,943 --> 00:29:00,842 We met for over a year at various times 544 00:29:00,911 --> 00:29:03,431 and then spent three or four days together 545 00:29:03,500 --> 00:29:06,054 reflecting on what is our call. 546 00:29:06,123 --> 00:29:08,332 Lynne Greenwald is a mother and grandmother 547 00:29:08,401 --> 00:29:11,611 who raised her three children near the naval base. 548 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,682 Hi, thanks for coming. 549 00:29:13,752 --> 00:29:14,614 Is this a grandchild? 550 00:29:14,683 --> 00:29:16,651 - Yeah, Jack. - Cute. 551 00:29:17,963 --> 00:29:19,792 Lynn is a former social worker 552 00:29:19,861 --> 00:29:22,622 and hospital emergency room nurse. 553 00:29:22,691 --> 00:29:24,659 Her consciousness on nuclear weapons 554 00:29:24,728 --> 00:29:27,489 was raised back in the late 1970s, 555 00:29:27,558 --> 00:29:32,460 after she met atomic bomb survivors known as hibakusha. 556 00:29:32,529 --> 00:29:35,808 This is a book that really got me on the road. 557 00:29:35,877 --> 00:29:38,293 I went to New York, to one of the first 558 00:29:38,362 --> 00:29:42,850 sessions on disarmament at the United Nations, 559 00:29:42,919 --> 00:29:46,336 and there were hibakusha there and they gave me this book. 560 00:29:47,302 --> 00:29:48,131 And... 561 00:29:51,928 --> 00:29:54,931 And that was the first time I was arrested, 562 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,312 at the United Nations. 563 00:29:58,313 --> 00:30:00,488 And just pictures of images 564 00:30:00,557 --> 00:30:03,732 of what happened when the bomb dropped. 565 00:30:03,802 --> 00:30:05,079 It just shocked me, 566 00:30:05,148 --> 00:30:07,564 because I never learned about this in school 567 00:30:07,633 --> 00:30:09,531 and I had a college degree by then 568 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,430 and I never knew about it. 569 00:30:11,499 --> 00:30:12,500 And 570 00:30:13,881 --> 00:30:17,954 it just changed my life. 571 00:30:19,818 --> 00:30:24,132 It's more of a compelling feeling that by not doing it, 572 00:30:24,201 --> 00:30:25,996 I'm not following my conscience, 573 00:30:26,065 --> 00:30:28,378 I'm not doing the right thing, 574 00:30:28,447 --> 00:30:30,656 and it's a very personal choice. 575 00:30:30,725 --> 00:30:33,003 It's just something I feel I have to do. 576 00:30:33,072 --> 00:30:37,111 I can't not protest nuclear weapons. 577 00:30:38,664 --> 00:30:40,839 Give thanks for the abundance 578 00:30:40,908 --> 00:30:42,426 of what we are about to receive, 579 00:30:42,495 --> 00:30:45,464 which is food for our bodies 580 00:30:45,533 --> 00:30:49,744 and all the love and dedication for the rest of us. 581 00:30:49,813 --> 00:30:52,367 Sister Anne Montgomery is an 84-year-old 582 00:30:52,436 --> 00:30:55,646 Catholic nun from the Society of the Sacred Heart. 583 00:30:55,715 --> 00:30:58,477 She's the daughter of a U.S. Navy admiral. 584 00:30:58,546 --> 00:31:01,307 She took part in the first Plowshares action. 585 00:31:03,171 --> 00:31:05,070 What is Plowshares? 586 00:31:05,139 --> 00:31:07,072 Plowshares is a movement. 587 00:31:07,141 --> 00:31:08,625 It's not an organization. 588 00:31:08,694 --> 00:31:10,523 You don't belong. 589 00:31:10,592 --> 00:31:14,907 It's a movement that began in 1980. 590 00:31:14,976 --> 00:31:18,600 In 1980, the Plowshares Eight that included 591 00:31:18,669 --> 00:31:22,190 the Catholic priests Fathers Dan and Phil Berrigan 592 00:31:22,259 --> 00:31:24,710 trespassed onto a nuclear weapons plant 593 00:31:24,779 --> 00:31:26,954 in King of Prussia, Pennsylvania. 594 00:31:27,023 --> 00:31:28,403 During that time, 595 00:31:28,472 --> 00:31:30,336 we said we have to bring in some kind of a statement 596 00:31:30,405 --> 00:31:32,338 of what we're doing and why we're doing it. 597 00:31:32,407 --> 00:31:34,513 They found it in the Old Testament 598 00:31:34,582 --> 00:31:37,309 and in the words of the prophet Isaiah. 599 00:31:37,378 --> 00:31:40,622 He says, they shall beat their swords into plowshares 600 00:31:40,691 --> 00:31:45,179 and at that point the nations will come together in peace. 601 00:31:45,248 --> 00:31:47,181 A movie was made about the case. 602 00:31:47,250 --> 00:31:49,286 The activists played themselves 603 00:31:49,355 --> 00:31:51,323 and Martin Sheen played the judge. 604 00:31:51,392 --> 00:31:52,289 And would you describe it 605 00:31:52,358 --> 00:31:53,773 for the members of the jury? 606 00:31:53,842 --> 00:31:55,396 I saw these people, bunch of people with hammers 607 00:31:55,465 --> 00:31:56,500 beating on the metal there. 608 00:31:56,569 --> 00:31:58,847 We had blood, we had hammers. 609 00:31:58,917 --> 00:32:01,920 We thought, this is a sign of changing 610 00:32:01,989 --> 00:32:04,267 something evil into something good. 611 00:32:04,336 --> 00:32:06,338 The defendants maintain because of their belief, 612 00:32:06,407 --> 00:32:07,926 their actions were justified. 613 00:32:07,995 --> 00:32:11,308 The defense of justification is not proper in this case. 614 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,277 It started a movement that's gone 615 00:32:14,346 --> 00:32:16,486 to different parts of the world, 616 00:32:16,555 --> 00:32:18,798 over a hundred and something Plowshares, 617 00:32:18,867 --> 00:32:22,043 so that people themselves 618 00:32:22,112 --> 00:32:26,392 saw this as a way of exposing what was going on 619 00:32:26,461 --> 00:32:28,705 and doing it in a spirit of nonviolence. 620 00:32:28,774 --> 00:32:30,431 Non-violence has to be active. 621 00:32:30,500 --> 00:32:33,399 You can't just sit and talk to people. 622 00:32:33,468 --> 00:32:36,023 When you plan this, the most important thing 623 00:32:36,092 --> 00:32:37,576 is to get a community together 624 00:32:37,645 --> 00:32:41,062 that's willing to take a risk and to challenge each other. 625 00:32:42,236 --> 00:32:43,685 How do you challenge each other? 626 00:32:43,754 --> 00:32:46,550 Could you explain that to me, what that involves? 627 00:32:46,619 --> 00:32:48,897 Well, say Bix and his health. 628 00:32:49,864 --> 00:32:51,383 I didn't want him to act. 629 00:32:51,452 --> 00:32:56,043 I was really worried and I was afraid, you know, heart. 630 00:32:56,112 --> 00:32:58,562 What if that had happened on the base? 631 00:32:58,631 --> 00:32:59,391 What are we gonna do? 632 00:32:59,460 --> 00:33:01,082 How do we get help? 633 00:33:01,151 --> 00:33:05,362 I've had two open heart surgeries, knee replacement, 634 00:33:05,431 --> 00:33:07,502 pacemaker and things like that, 635 00:33:09,056 --> 00:33:12,645 but other than that, I'm doing okay, you know? 636 00:33:14,647 --> 00:33:17,443 It's just a matter that I do get out of breath, 637 00:33:17,512 --> 00:33:19,514 especially if you're going uphill. 638 00:33:19,583 --> 00:33:20,999 It pulls more out of me now. 639 00:33:22,138 --> 00:33:24,485 We left it up to him to make his own decision 640 00:33:25,624 --> 00:33:29,628 and his provincial was wonderful. 641 00:33:29,697 --> 00:33:31,216 So he came and started talking to me, 642 00:33:31,285 --> 00:33:34,081 'cause it's what we call a discernment, 643 00:33:34,150 --> 00:33:37,774 where we go back and forth for a while, he prays, I pray, 644 00:33:37,843 --> 00:33:41,985 we look at what he's asking to do, to get permission, 645 00:33:42,054 --> 00:33:45,782 because we have the vow of obedience 646 00:33:45,851 --> 00:33:48,957 and so he would have to have my sending 647 00:33:49,027 --> 00:33:50,407 in order to do anything. 648 00:33:52,271 --> 00:33:54,860 He asked at that time if he could go 649 00:33:54,929 --> 00:33:58,898 to do civil disobedience up at Bangor. 650 00:33:58,967 --> 00:34:01,280 I mean, it is kind of mind-boggling 651 00:34:01,349 --> 00:34:03,972 that you go to your superior, your boss, so to speak, 652 00:34:04,042 --> 00:34:07,390 and you say, can I, effectively can I go and break the law? 653 00:34:07,459 --> 00:34:09,185 You're saying, I mean, 654 00:34:09,254 --> 00:34:11,808 did you think about that aspect of it? 655 00:34:11,877 --> 00:34:13,396 Yes. 656 00:34:13,465 --> 00:34:14,845 I certainly looked at that. 657 00:34:14,914 --> 00:34:17,434 And in my own head, I knew that that would mean 658 00:34:17,503 --> 00:34:20,196 I would be eventually having to send him to jail. 659 00:34:20,265 --> 00:34:25,132 And we talked about that then and we talked about it again. 660 00:34:25,201 --> 00:34:28,756 Is he ready to go and die in a federal penitentiary 661 00:34:28,825 --> 00:34:30,309 if that's what happens to him? 662 00:34:31,379 --> 00:34:33,312 Bix has been really our prophet, 663 00:34:33,381 --> 00:34:36,764 an amazing prophet of justice for many years. 664 00:34:37,868 --> 00:34:40,354 And so in my own prayer, I came to say, 665 00:34:42,321 --> 00:34:44,289 we need someone to stand up. 666 00:34:44,358 --> 00:34:48,224 We need witnesses for what God wants done. 667 00:34:52,814 --> 00:34:55,679 It's a calling to Americans 668 00:34:55,748 --> 00:34:57,957 and to any persons of goodwill 669 00:34:58,026 --> 00:35:01,478 around ending the role of nuclear weapons on this earth. 670 00:35:15,803 --> 00:35:19,220 For years, we've wanted to get into this Trident base. 671 00:35:19,289 --> 00:35:20,463 And the news we got, 672 00:35:20,532 --> 00:35:23,086 oh, it's impossible, security's so tight. 673 00:35:24,708 --> 00:35:27,780 The only thing stopping us was that we thought 674 00:35:27,849 --> 00:35:30,197 was how hard it was to get in. 675 00:35:30,266 --> 00:35:33,200 Up to the last minute, I didn't think we'd make it. 676 00:35:33,269 --> 00:35:35,133 Everyone said, there's cameras, 677 00:35:35,202 --> 00:35:39,999 there's guard dogs, there's car patrols, 678 00:35:40,068 --> 00:35:42,864 who knows what sort of surveillance they have? 679 00:35:44,694 --> 00:35:47,214 Susan Crane has taken part 680 00:35:47,283 --> 00:35:49,561 in a number of Plowshares actions 681 00:35:49,630 --> 00:35:53,047 and spent more than five years in prison for them. 682 00:35:53,116 --> 00:35:55,946 She's a retired California school teacher, 683 00:35:56,015 --> 00:35:57,810 a mother and grandmother. 684 00:36:00,019 --> 00:36:02,263 Father Bix had to consult with his provincial 685 00:36:02,332 --> 00:36:03,851 and so did Sister Anne. 686 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,715 So did you do that with anybody? 687 00:36:07,095 --> 00:36:10,306 Well, we have conspiracy laws in this country 688 00:36:10,375 --> 00:36:13,826 and if other people know you're going to do something 689 00:36:13,895 --> 00:36:15,242 and don't say something about it, 690 00:36:15,311 --> 00:36:17,347 they could be charged with conspiracy. 691 00:36:19,315 --> 00:36:23,698 God, you are the God of our life, our breath that we take. 692 00:36:23,767 --> 00:36:26,011 Father Stephen Kelly is a Jesuit 693 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,910 who served the Catholic Church as a parish priest 694 00:36:28,979 --> 00:36:32,880 in California and in Africa and Central America. 695 00:36:32,949 --> 00:36:35,745 He was incarcerated for more than six years 696 00:36:35,814 --> 00:36:38,196 for his Plowshares protests. 697 00:36:38,265 --> 00:36:42,027 Half the time he was in solitary confinement. 698 00:36:42,096 --> 00:36:44,823 What is the purpose of doing something like this? 699 00:36:44,892 --> 00:36:46,238 Why take this action? 700 00:36:46,307 --> 00:36:48,792 We were convinced that we were saving lives. 701 00:36:48,861 --> 00:36:51,381 I think anyone who, if they were really convinced 702 00:36:51,450 --> 00:36:53,107 that their next actions were gonna 703 00:36:53,176 --> 00:36:55,489 be saving the life of a loved one, 704 00:36:55,558 --> 00:36:57,353 they wouldn't hesitate to do it. 705 00:36:57,422 --> 00:37:00,908 I'm not saying that I'm gonna change the Pentagon overnight, 706 00:37:00,977 --> 00:37:03,807 all that money that's made by weaponeers, 707 00:37:03,876 --> 00:37:06,362 but I know there's a sleeping giant out there, 708 00:37:06,431 --> 00:37:08,571 there's a moral sleeping giant, 709 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,954 when woken, will take all of this on. 710 00:37:14,542 --> 00:37:17,925 We cannot be fully human while one nuclear weapon exists, 711 00:37:17,994 --> 00:37:19,444 so our humanity is at stake. 712 00:37:20,997 --> 00:37:23,344 We pray especially for those who have stood guard 713 00:37:23,413 --> 00:37:26,416 over this area right here and now, 714 00:37:27,831 --> 00:37:32,664 and that they can understand we mean only harm to the nukes. 715 00:37:41,776 --> 00:37:45,332 So we entered the base at two o'clock in the morning 716 00:37:45,401 --> 00:37:48,231 by cutting through the perimeter fence. 717 00:37:48,300 --> 00:37:49,612 We had bolt cutters with us 718 00:37:49,681 --> 00:37:52,442 and so we cut it in the shape of a teepee. 719 00:37:54,375 --> 00:37:56,515 And nothing happened. 720 00:37:56,584 --> 00:37:59,380 There was no alarm, there were no cameras 721 00:37:59,449 --> 00:38:01,382 that started clicking that we could hear. 722 00:38:01,451 --> 00:38:02,832 I was the first one through. 723 00:38:02,901 --> 00:38:05,421 I was supposed to be leading people across the road 724 00:38:05,490 --> 00:38:08,769 and I put my shoe right in a puddle of water. 725 00:38:08,838 --> 00:38:12,807 We walked through the fence and into some deep water, 726 00:38:12,876 --> 00:38:15,465 so we started out with wet feet. 727 00:38:15,534 --> 00:38:16,501 We thought we were gonna have 728 00:38:16,570 --> 00:38:18,986 to go through brush all the way. 729 00:38:19,055 --> 00:38:22,161 We didn't think we'd be able to be on any roads at all. 730 00:38:22,230 --> 00:38:25,095 So we found this road, it was a utility road, 731 00:38:25,164 --> 00:38:26,787 and we walked for several hours. 732 00:38:28,236 --> 00:38:32,344 And Bill Bichsel, God bless him, he's got a bad valve 733 00:38:32,413 --> 00:38:33,897 and he was taking nitroglycerin 734 00:38:33,966 --> 00:38:36,141 and we were resting frequently. 735 00:38:38,419 --> 00:38:39,765 They had to go very slow, 736 00:38:39,834 --> 00:38:42,872 because I had to take nitroglycerin along the way 737 00:38:42,941 --> 00:38:44,391 because of a heart condition. 738 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,601 Steve Kelly said we were going so slow 739 00:38:47,670 --> 00:38:50,397 that we were invisible. 740 00:38:50,466 --> 00:38:52,433 Steve and I were a little ahead 741 00:38:52,502 --> 00:38:54,262 and suddenly we saw a car coming. 742 00:38:56,782 --> 00:38:59,716 So Bix and I jumped in the bushes. 743 00:38:59,785 --> 00:39:01,753 And I looked over my shoulder 744 00:39:01,822 --> 00:39:04,790 and I saw these bodies flying in the air into the bushes. 745 00:39:06,067 --> 00:39:08,380 And oh my God, something's wrong. 746 00:39:08,449 --> 00:39:10,106 Steve and I had to keep walking. 747 00:39:10,175 --> 00:39:11,452 There was nothing else we could do. 748 00:39:11,521 --> 00:39:14,973 We're carrying cloth bag with some clippers, 749 00:39:15,042 --> 00:39:19,046 wire cutters in them and maybe a couple of hammers. 750 00:39:19,115 --> 00:39:22,532 Elderly, but I guess we could resemble workers. 751 00:39:23,671 --> 00:39:26,191 And the car passed and didn't stop 752 00:39:26,260 --> 00:39:28,124 and so we kept on going, 753 00:39:28,193 --> 00:39:30,091 but we thought, perhaps we'd really 754 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:31,714 better get off the main road. 755 00:39:35,683 --> 00:39:37,823 How long were you on the base? 756 00:39:37,892 --> 00:39:39,411 Four hours. 757 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,897 We were walking around on the base for four hours. 758 00:39:42,966 --> 00:39:45,037 We headed up with this road 759 00:39:45,106 --> 00:39:48,834 and then eventually made over this road going eastward. 760 00:39:48,903 --> 00:39:53,598 This is SWFPAC here, the Strategic Weapons Facility Pacific. 761 00:39:53,667 --> 00:39:55,531 We saw kind of a light way up ahead, 762 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,774 but that was it, just a indistinct light. 763 00:40:00,190 --> 00:40:01,744 Thought, well, what's up there? 764 00:40:03,539 --> 00:40:04,678 So the closer we came, we says, 765 00:40:04,747 --> 00:40:06,990 we are actually at the bunkers. 766 00:40:08,406 --> 00:40:09,648 It happened. 767 00:40:09,717 --> 00:40:10,822 We got to the bunkers. 768 00:40:12,168 --> 00:40:13,687 All the heavy nuclear weapons that are used 769 00:40:13,756 --> 00:40:17,069 on the Trident submarine are stored here. 770 00:40:17,138 --> 00:40:20,383 It looked like a huge prison yard with fences around it 771 00:40:20,452 --> 00:40:23,041 and guard towers and so forth, 772 00:40:23,110 --> 00:40:24,491 and I'd been in prisons before 773 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,079 and I said, "Wow, you can't get into that thing." 774 00:40:27,148 --> 00:40:29,875 Two strands of barbed wire 775 00:40:29,944 --> 00:40:34,708 with heavy-duty topping concertina wire on the top, 776 00:40:34,777 --> 00:40:38,366 guard towers, several of them and just what seemed like 777 00:40:38,436 --> 00:40:43,268 at least a mile and a half of indications of bunkers. 778 00:40:46,029 --> 00:40:49,343 It was a shoot-to-kill zone around the bunkers. 779 00:40:49,412 --> 00:40:51,449 We thought, well, we have to take 780 00:40:51,518 --> 00:40:54,037 our next steps and go to the fence. 781 00:40:54,106 --> 00:40:55,418 Is it electrified? 782 00:40:55,487 --> 00:40:57,213 And so we walked up 783 00:40:57,282 --> 00:40:59,042 and I think it was Susan touched the fence. 784 00:40:59,111 --> 00:41:00,734 I had said that I would do it. 785 00:41:05,946 --> 00:41:09,915 But it wasn't electrified and it was a double fence 786 00:41:09,984 --> 00:41:12,573 and took a little longer to cut, 787 00:41:12,642 --> 00:41:14,817 but we all got through that too. 788 00:41:14,886 --> 00:41:18,165 I honestly had thought there would be dogs, 789 00:41:18,234 --> 00:41:20,650 helicopters, there would be something, 790 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,309 but we got to the first fence and I said, "I'll be darned." 791 00:41:24,378 --> 00:41:25,586 I thought, well, now 792 00:41:26,898 --> 00:41:28,762 we must be setting off alarms someplace. 793 00:41:28,831 --> 00:41:30,177 They're due to arrive any moment. 794 00:41:30,246 --> 00:41:31,627 We'd planned what each of us 795 00:41:31,696 --> 00:41:33,214 was going to do if we got there. 796 00:41:33,283 --> 00:41:36,977 And some would pour blood and hammer right away. 797 00:41:37,046 --> 00:41:39,220 The vision is one of conversion, 798 00:41:39,289 --> 00:41:42,776 going from a wartime economy to peacetime production. 799 00:41:42,845 --> 00:41:45,364 They shall beat their swords into plowshares. 800 00:41:45,433 --> 00:41:46,849 Just like in the old days, 801 00:41:46,918 --> 00:41:49,334 they took swords and took them to the blacksmith 802 00:41:49,403 --> 00:41:51,992 and the blacksmith pounded on them to make a plow. 803 00:41:52,061 --> 00:41:54,753 We're not out to destroy the weapons, 804 00:41:54,822 --> 00:41:58,274 but to take all of those resources and reshape them, 805 00:41:58,343 --> 00:42:00,759 reconvert them into something useful 806 00:42:00,828 --> 00:42:03,797 We had some blood that we had brought, our own blood. 807 00:42:03,866 --> 00:42:04,970 We weren't gonna hammer 808 00:42:05,039 --> 00:42:06,489 on the nuclear weapons or anything, 809 00:42:06,558 --> 00:42:08,974 but we did hammer on the fences and things like that 810 00:42:09,043 --> 00:42:13,427 as a sign of our opposition to these weapons of destruction 811 00:42:13,496 --> 00:42:15,947 and pour our own blood as a sign 812 00:42:16,016 --> 00:42:20,089 of there's enough blood has been spilled already. 813 00:42:20,158 --> 00:42:21,504 And where did you place the blood? 814 00:42:21,573 --> 00:42:22,885 In baby bottles. 815 00:42:24,196 --> 00:42:26,129 We poured them on the fences themselves, 816 00:42:26,198 --> 00:42:28,856 something at least, some structure that was visible. 817 00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:32,204 The blood is sort of scary. 818 00:42:32,273 --> 00:42:33,896 People don't understand that. 819 00:42:35,829 --> 00:42:39,522 And that's saying many things. 820 00:42:42,801 --> 00:42:45,977 It's saying people who are pushing buttons now, 821 00:42:46,046 --> 00:42:47,634 whether they're on a Trident submarine 822 00:42:47,703 --> 00:42:50,913 or sitting in a desert someplace with the drones, 823 00:42:50,982 --> 00:42:55,158 do not see what happens to human bodies on the other end. 824 00:42:59,266 --> 00:43:00,888 What happened after that? 825 00:43:00,957 --> 00:43:03,132 Lynne and I were assigned to go first 826 00:43:03,201 --> 00:43:06,791 and take a banner in to show we were nonviolent. 827 00:43:07,999 --> 00:43:10,484 Lynne and I walked slowly, 828 00:43:10,553 --> 00:43:12,555 let the others do what they were doing behind us. 829 00:43:12,624 --> 00:43:15,385 I was afraid even to turn around and look. 830 00:43:15,454 --> 00:43:19,458 And then a van came with three marines in it 831 00:43:20,321 --> 00:43:21,806 and one got out. 832 00:43:21,875 --> 00:43:24,394 He said, "Stop," so we stopped and we knelt down right away 833 00:43:24,463 --> 00:43:27,397 and we held up the banner and gave the peace sign. 834 00:43:27,466 --> 00:43:30,124 I was standing next to Father Bix 835 00:43:30,193 --> 00:43:31,954 and he picked up a water bottle 836 00:43:32,023 --> 00:43:35,371 and did an exorcism at the time. 837 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:36,890 I thought if we were gonna be shot, 838 00:43:36,959 --> 00:43:39,720 it would have been when he did that, but... 839 00:43:39,789 --> 00:43:43,034 Then they kind of forcefully turn you around 840 00:43:43,103 --> 00:43:45,036 and then they get your hand behind your back. 841 00:43:45,105 --> 00:43:46,589 They cuff you. 842 00:43:46,658 --> 00:43:48,246 We didn't look like ninjas or commandos, 843 00:43:48,315 --> 00:43:50,041 just ordinary people. 844 00:43:50,110 --> 00:43:52,664 At the time we were laying on the ground, 845 00:43:52,733 --> 00:43:54,217 we were all pretty quiet. 846 00:43:54,286 --> 00:43:57,876 I just had this moment of elation that we made it. 847 00:43:57,945 --> 00:44:01,880 You know, in my mind still are the images from Hiroshima 848 00:44:01,949 --> 00:44:04,642 and the skin falling off children 849 00:44:04,711 --> 00:44:06,989 and the terrible devastation. 850 00:44:07,058 --> 00:44:11,718 And I felt, well, at least I'm doing what I can 851 00:44:11,787 --> 00:44:13,754 so that that doesn't happen again. 852 00:44:13,823 --> 00:44:16,550 I tried to stay focused on some kind 853 00:44:16,619 --> 00:44:20,278 of prayerful presence there and at that moment, 854 00:44:20,347 --> 00:44:22,418 a bag was put over my head. 855 00:44:22,487 --> 00:44:26,249 They hooded us, which was a surprise. 856 00:44:26,318 --> 00:44:27,768 Here is one of us. 857 00:44:27,837 --> 00:44:31,945 It's actually Steve Kelly on the ground with a hood. 858 00:44:32,014 --> 00:44:33,878 And here's his jacket. 859 00:44:33,947 --> 00:44:36,190 And here are the Marines with their guns on him. 860 00:44:36,259 --> 00:44:38,227 This is Father Bix here 861 00:44:38,296 --> 00:44:42,714 and this part here is the hood. 862 00:44:42,783 --> 00:44:44,612 It's hard to see, but we know this is him 863 00:44:44,682 --> 00:44:47,477 because he has his Hiroshima T-shirt on. 864 00:44:47,546 --> 00:44:49,687 We were interrogated by FBI 865 00:44:51,033 --> 00:44:54,519 and Navy Criminal NCIS officials 866 00:44:55,762 --> 00:44:57,729 and we were questioned 867 00:44:59,041 --> 00:45:01,146 or tried to be questioned for three hours. 868 00:45:01,215 --> 00:45:02,665 To see if our stories corroborated, 869 00:45:02,734 --> 00:45:05,185 but we didn't answer any of their direct questions 870 00:45:05,254 --> 00:45:06,427 like I'm answering now 871 00:45:08,257 --> 00:45:10,362 about what we were about and all that. 872 00:45:10,431 --> 00:45:14,504 We gave our names and not even addresses. 873 00:45:14,573 --> 00:45:16,748 What were you expecting at that point? 874 00:45:16,817 --> 00:45:20,683 Well, I was expecting to maybe be taken to Guantanamo, 875 00:45:20,752 --> 00:45:21,753 I don't know. 876 00:45:21,822 --> 00:45:24,169 No, I wasn't expecting that. 877 00:45:24,238 --> 00:45:26,585 But I was expecting to be held. 878 00:45:26,654 --> 00:45:27,794 We were in shock 879 00:45:27,863 --> 00:45:29,312 that halfway through the interrogation, 880 00:45:29,381 --> 00:45:31,901 they told us, "We're going to cite you and release you." 881 00:45:31,970 --> 00:45:34,904 I really expected to go right to jail, 882 00:45:34,973 --> 00:45:36,423 but I was also happy, 883 00:45:36,492 --> 00:45:40,461 'cause jail's not my favorite place. 884 00:45:40,530 --> 00:45:41,842 It was amazing. 885 00:45:41,911 --> 00:45:43,499 I mean, we were so shocked that we were out. 886 00:45:48,055 --> 00:45:50,195 Anti-war protesters made quite an entrance 887 00:45:50,264 --> 00:45:51,714 at Naval Base Kitsap this week. 888 00:45:51,783 --> 00:45:53,854 They cut through fences, breached security 889 00:45:53,923 --> 00:45:55,787 and wandered around for four hours 890 00:45:55,856 --> 00:45:57,755 before naval police caught them. 891 00:45:57,824 --> 00:45:58,756 They made it all the way 892 00:45:58,825 --> 00:46:00,067 to the nuclear weapons bunkers 893 00:46:00,136 --> 00:46:03,622 before being stopped at gunpoint by base police. 894 00:46:03,691 --> 00:46:05,176 For years, the Bangor base has been 895 00:46:05,245 --> 00:46:07,109 a flashpoint for protesters, 896 00:46:07,178 --> 00:46:09,870 but never before had anyone cut through fences 897 00:46:09,939 --> 00:46:12,528 to reach an area where nuclear warheads are stored. 898 00:46:12,597 --> 00:46:15,358 Two priests, a nun and two fellow activists 899 00:46:15,427 --> 00:46:18,016 all ranging in age from 61 to 84. 900 00:46:18,085 --> 00:46:20,398 The Navy told me sensors in that fence 901 00:46:20,467 --> 00:46:21,951 gave away their position, 902 00:46:22,020 --> 00:46:23,815 but won't say anything more about their claims 903 00:46:23,884 --> 00:46:25,852 of being on base for four hours. 904 00:46:30,373 --> 00:46:32,513 The U.S. Navy issued a press release 905 00:46:32,582 --> 00:46:34,205 published in the Kitsap Sun. 906 00:46:53,396 --> 00:46:54,639 Of course, it wasn't a threat 907 00:46:54,708 --> 00:46:56,365 because these were not people that were armed 908 00:46:56,434 --> 00:46:58,125 and going in to blow things up. 909 00:46:58,194 --> 00:47:00,921 So there wasn't a direct threat at that point. 910 00:47:00,990 --> 00:47:04,131 You know, from this particular garage right here, 911 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:08,135 you can see a truck with a ballistic missile body 912 00:47:08,204 --> 00:47:09,827 coming out from the bunker. 913 00:47:09,896 --> 00:47:11,414 I mean, fortunately in this case, 914 00:47:11,483 --> 00:47:13,313 they're peaceful demonstrators, 915 00:47:13,382 --> 00:47:17,904 but the nasty surprise would be if a day comes in the future 916 00:47:17,973 --> 00:47:19,629 where there's well-organized terrorists 917 00:47:19,698 --> 00:47:21,286 that try to make their way in there. 918 00:47:21,355 --> 00:47:22,978 I mean, they don't have to necessarily get into 919 00:47:23,047 --> 00:47:26,015 the weapons and nuclear warheads storage sites themselves. 920 00:47:26,084 --> 00:47:29,225 These are the 21 bunkers over here. 921 00:47:29,294 --> 00:47:30,848 That's where you store the warheads. 922 00:47:30,917 --> 00:47:32,194 They could aim at getting in 923 00:47:32,263 --> 00:47:34,472 and trying to blow up some of those missiles. 924 00:47:35,783 --> 00:47:37,889 These are the garages, so to speak, 925 00:47:37,958 --> 00:47:40,133 for the ballistic missiles. 926 00:47:40,202 --> 00:47:44,551 Those are huge canisters full of very volatile fuel. 927 00:47:49,383 --> 00:47:52,835 My big alarm bell is whenever an official 928 00:47:52,904 --> 00:47:56,183 reassures me that something is safe. 929 00:47:56,252 --> 00:47:58,013 You know, you can't reassure that. 930 00:47:59,186 --> 00:48:02,707 You can try, but it's never entirely safe. 931 00:48:02,776 --> 00:48:04,398 In a way, these people should get a medal 932 00:48:04,467 --> 00:48:06,711 for waking up the security people 933 00:48:06,780 --> 00:48:08,920 so that they see where things don't work. 934 00:48:10,335 --> 00:48:13,062 We didn't do it to bring to light the insecurity 935 00:48:13,131 --> 00:48:15,893 that's there or the lack of security guarding these things, 936 00:48:15,962 --> 00:48:18,447 although that was a truth. 937 00:48:18,516 --> 00:48:20,621 We did it in order to bring to light 938 00:48:20,690 --> 00:48:24,073 the illegality and immorality of these weapons. 939 00:48:28,457 --> 00:48:29,734 You see people commenting 940 00:48:29,803 --> 00:48:30,977 within the newspapers, 941 00:48:31,046 --> 00:48:33,703 why didn't you try the democratic means, 942 00:48:33,772 --> 00:48:35,947 going to Washington and/or lobbying, things like that? 943 00:48:36,016 --> 00:48:37,638 We've done all of those things. 944 00:48:37,707 --> 00:48:39,295 We've lobbied, we vigiled, 945 00:48:39,364 --> 00:48:43,299 we've visited our Congress people in their offices. 946 00:48:43,368 --> 00:48:45,681 We've had vigils and marches. 947 00:48:45,750 --> 00:48:49,616 This is going on for about 40 years, but to no avail. 948 00:48:49,685 --> 00:48:52,481 I would like to add that we are not 949 00:48:52,550 --> 00:48:56,174 against the young men and women in the military. 950 00:48:56,243 --> 00:48:57,900 They are part of the victims. 951 00:48:58,970 --> 00:49:02,284 I'm a child of a naval officer, 952 00:49:04,079 --> 00:49:07,358 so I loved the Navy growing up and then I see it 953 00:49:07,427 --> 00:49:11,810 turning into this sort of technological force 954 00:49:11,879 --> 00:49:14,330 that speaks a different language. 955 00:49:14,399 --> 00:49:19,404 It's all so compartmentalized that the soldiers and sailors 956 00:49:20,543 --> 00:49:22,511 don't really connect with what they're doing 957 00:49:22,580 --> 00:49:24,513 any more than our citizens do 958 00:49:24,582 --> 00:49:27,171 when the weapons are hidden from them. 959 00:49:27,240 --> 00:49:28,586 Shortly after the break-in, 960 00:49:28,655 --> 00:49:30,588 the U.S. Attorney's office announced 961 00:49:30,657 --> 00:49:33,522 it was investigating charges against the five. 962 00:49:33,591 --> 00:49:37,112 Then nine months later, the indictments came down. 963 00:49:37,181 --> 00:49:40,149 The five were charged with a host of crimes, 964 00:49:40,218 --> 00:49:42,634 including conspiracy, trespass 965 00:49:42,703 --> 00:49:45,120 and destruction of government property. 966 00:49:45,189 --> 00:49:49,158 Each was now facing up to 10 years in prison. 967 00:49:49,227 --> 00:49:50,884 And the trial itself is open to the public. 968 00:49:50,953 --> 00:49:52,092 - Is that correct? - Yes, 969 00:49:52,161 --> 00:49:53,576 the trial will be open to the public. 970 00:49:53,645 --> 00:49:56,165 We like to think that it's not just us on trial, 971 00:49:56,234 --> 00:49:59,306 that this is a trial about nuclear weapons. 972 00:49:59,375 --> 00:50:02,171 We'd like to invite any who might be listening. 973 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,106 It's on the 28th. 974 00:50:06,175 --> 00:50:08,557 It's gonna be at the Tacoma Federal Courthouse, 975 00:50:08,626 --> 00:50:13,424 which is at 1717 Pacific Avenue in Tacoma. 976 00:50:14,597 --> 00:50:16,220 Sister Megan Rice told me 977 00:50:16,289 --> 00:50:20,224 that call to action would send her to Tacoma. 978 00:50:20,293 --> 00:50:23,296 Tell me about your reaction. 979 00:50:23,365 --> 00:50:25,022 Did you come up for their trial? 980 00:50:25,091 --> 00:50:26,230 Yes, we did. 981 00:50:28,611 --> 00:50:33,616 So I heard that the five of them had done this action. 982 00:50:34,514 --> 00:50:36,067 I did know Father Bill Bichsel. 983 00:50:36,136 --> 00:50:38,311 I had visited him in prison. 984 00:50:38,380 --> 00:50:39,829 We have sisters in Portland 985 00:50:39,898 --> 00:50:42,142 and so I able to visit him in prison there, 986 00:50:42,211 --> 00:50:43,419 so I knew him well. 987 00:50:44,938 --> 00:50:49,494 Anne Montgomery had done five or six Plowshares actions 988 00:50:50,702 --> 00:50:53,878 and had spent a lot of time in prison. 989 00:50:57,847 --> 00:51:01,334 The trial is underway for five war protesters. 990 00:51:14,692 --> 00:51:16,211 There's a crime at Bangor 991 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,283 with the storage of all those nuclear weapons. 992 00:51:19,352 --> 00:51:21,354 The future of all children depends 993 00:51:21,423 --> 00:51:24,081 on people speaking up against atrocities. 994 00:51:25,703 --> 00:51:29,327 Former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark flew in 995 00:51:29,396 --> 00:51:33,228 from the east coast to appear before the court. 996 00:51:33,297 --> 00:51:36,058 Why did you go to Tacoma to testify? 997 00:51:36,127 --> 00:51:40,027 Well, I've been working with them for a long time. 998 00:51:40,097 --> 00:51:43,410 The main thing, the steadfastness of those saintly people 999 00:51:43,479 --> 00:51:45,136 and the pain they've suffered. 1000 00:51:45,205 --> 00:51:49,278 And it is our challenge still remaining to love the people 1001 00:51:49,347 --> 00:51:52,074 that are accusing us and judging us, 1002 00:51:52,143 --> 00:51:54,801 and with your help and support, we're able to do that. 1003 00:51:54,870 --> 00:51:55,767 God bless you. 1004 00:51:55,836 --> 00:51:56,596 Amen. 1005 00:51:56,665 --> 00:51:58,115 Amen. 1006 00:51:58,184 --> 00:52:01,704 They've laid their lives on the line time after time, 1007 00:52:01,773 --> 00:52:03,948 trying to make our people understand 1008 00:52:04,017 --> 00:52:09,022 that these nuclear weapons are a form of madness, 1009 00:52:10,196 --> 00:52:12,646 that they threaten life on the planet. 1010 00:52:12,715 --> 00:52:14,890 And right here in this gentle city, 1011 00:52:16,823 --> 00:52:18,825 Tacoma, with all these beautiful people, 1012 00:52:20,240 --> 00:52:25,107 there's a mass of destructive power beyond imagination. 1013 00:52:26,833 --> 00:52:28,145 One of those submarines could hit 1014 00:52:28,214 --> 00:52:31,976 110 or more centers of population and exterminate them. 1015 00:52:35,566 --> 00:52:40,571 Attention must be paid and it's not being paid. 1016 00:52:42,020 --> 00:52:44,989 So God bless the Plowshares and make all of us Plowshares 1017 00:52:45,058 --> 00:52:48,095 and then we shall overcome, not before. 1018 00:52:48,165 --> 00:52:49,338 Amen. 1019 00:52:49,407 --> 00:52:50,684 Amen. 1020 00:52:50,753 --> 00:52:51,927 Thank you, Ramsey. 1021 00:52:53,342 --> 00:52:56,552 During a pre-trial hearing, Clark was asked 1022 00:52:56,621 --> 00:53:00,177 if he thought the defendants' actions were justified. 1023 00:53:24,649 --> 00:53:26,306 Clark told the court the nuclear missiles 1024 00:53:26,375 --> 00:53:29,620 aboard the Trident submarines violate international law. 1025 00:54:05,034 --> 00:54:07,692 Blake Kremer was on the defense team. 1026 00:54:07,761 --> 00:54:08,935 What happened? 1027 00:54:09,004 --> 00:54:11,109 Well, there was a pre-trial hearing 1028 00:54:11,178 --> 00:54:12,559 several weeks prior to trial. 1029 00:54:12,628 --> 00:54:16,425 Ramsey Clark testified regarding international law 1030 00:54:16,494 --> 00:54:20,326 and the judge ruled that the international law defense 1031 00:54:20,395 --> 00:54:22,776 and the necessity defenses would not be allowed 1032 00:54:22,845 --> 00:54:24,813 to be presented to the jury. 1033 00:54:24,882 --> 00:54:26,401 Before the trial started, 1034 00:54:26,470 --> 00:54:28,748 Judge Benjamin Settle ruled the defendants 1035 00:54:28,817 --> 00:54:31,509 had not shown that international law 1036 00:54:31,578 --> 00:54:33,339 or the so-called Nuremberg defense 1037 00:54:33,408 --> 00:54:35,927 applied to the charges against them. 1038 00:54:35,996 --> 00:54:38,033 He said the defendants claimed they were acting 1039 00:54:38,102 --> 00:54:40,346 out of necessity to point out the dangers 1040 00:54:40,415 --> 00:54:43,452 and criminality of keeping nuclear weapons. 1041 00:54:43,521 --> 00:54:46,352 But the judge called the case a political one 1042 00:54:46,421 --> 00:54:49,424 and citing precedent, said other courts had struck down 1043 00:54:49,493 --> 00:54:52,634 the use of the necessity defense in similar cases. 1044 00:54:52,703 --> 00:54:55,913 The problem is that federal courts presume 1045 00:54:55,982 --> 00:54:57,846 that nuclear weapons are legal. 1046 00:54:59,365 --> 00:55:03,990 They say, well, if Congress funds them, then they're legal 1047 00:55:04,059 --> 00:55:05,992 and if you don't think they're legal 1048 00:55:06,061 --> 00:55:08,891 then you have to go do something else 1049 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:13,102 like petition your Congressman or write letters or whatever. 1050 00:55:13,171 --> 00:55:16,658 But you can't go in and say you're stopping a crime, 1051 00:55:16,727 --> 00:55:19,316 because there's no crime going on. 1052 00:55:19,385 --> 00:55:23,285 What we're saying is that you cannot produce 1053 00:55:23,354 --> 00:55:26,046 and deploy and prepare for use 1054 00:55:26,115 --> 00:55:28,773 or threat of use of nuclear weapons legally 1055 00:55:28,842 --> 00:55:31,914 because these weapons are grotesque 1056 00:55:31,983 --> 00:55:33,744 weapons of mass destruction. 1057 00:55:33,813 --> 00:55:36,160 They cannot be controlled in space and time. 1058 00:55:36,229 --> 00:55:37,886 They're indiscriminate and therefore, 1059 00:55:37,955 --> 00:55:41,683 they violate every basic law of war. 1060 00:55:41,752 --> 00:55:45,342 We bless you, as a family, as a community and as one. 1061 00:55:46,688 --> 00:55:47,516 Amen. 1062 00:55:47,585 --> 00:55:49,207 Amen. 1063 00:55:49,276 --> 00:55:50,416 Look at that sun on the bridge up there. 1064 00:55:50,485 --> 00:55:52,210 During the four-day trial, 1065 00:55:52,279 --> 00:55:54,972 Lori McPhee sat on the jury. 1066 00:55:55,041 --> 00:55:57,664 To see that they were all elderly people 1067 00:55:57,733 --> 00:55:59,770 was kind of amazing. 1068 00:56:00,771 --> 00:56:03,394 To have them be of religion, 1069 00:56:03,463 --> 00:56:05,534 that made it even more shocking. 1070 00:56:06,466 --> 00:56:07,950 They broke the law. 1071 00:56:08,019 --> 00:56:11,575 They had their reasons, but it was still breaking the law. 1072 00:56:13,093 --> 00:56:14,371 The prosecutors want to keep the focus 1073 00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,201 on whether these folks cut a fence or not 1074 00:56:17,270 --> 00:56:19,134 and they're saying, "Yes, we cut the fence, 1075 00:56:19,203 --> 00:56:20,100 "but let me tell you why," 1076 00:56:20,169 --> 00:56:21,723 and open all that up. 1077 00:56:21,792 --> 00:56:23,966 And the prosecutors just wanted to keep it on the fence 1078 00:56:24,035 --> 00:56:25,071 so it was just about 1079 00:56:26,175 --> 00:56:29,524 the damage to government property that way. 1080 00:56:29,593 --> 00:56:32,112 So in that sense, they didn't get a fair trial. 1081 00:56:32,181 --> 00:56:34,667 Bill Quigley was on the defense team, 1082 00:56:34,736 --> 00:56:37,221 which functioned in an advisory capacity, 1083 00:56:37,290 --> 00:56:40,293 because the defendants represented themselves. 1084 00:56:40,362 --> 00:56:43,607 He's a law professor at Loyola University. 1085 00:56:43,676 --> 00:56:46,955 Now did the judge do anything illegal or unjust? 1086 00:56:47,024 --> 00:56:48,957 Most federal judges would have done 1087 00:56:49,026 --> 00:56:50,924 the same thing this judge did 1088 00:56:50,993 --> 00:56:54,583 because the law is really stacked 1089 00:56:54,652 --> 00:56:56,447 to keep these kinds of things quiet 1090 00:56:56,516 --> 00:56:59,864 and to make sure that people don't get a chance 1091 00:56:59,933 --> 00:57:01,487 to explain all these things to a jury 1092 00:57:01,556 --> 00:57:02,971 because they're so powerful. 1093 00:57:04,559 --> 00:57:06,940 Why do we have these weapons? 1094 00:57:07,009 --> 00:57:09,909 What good do they do the world to have them? 1095 00:57:09,978 --> 00:57:12,187 What's the impact that they've had already? 1096 00:57:13,775 --> 00:57:16,398 What's the financial consequences? 1097 00:57:16,467 --> 00:57:18,365 What are the medical consequences? 1098 00:57:20,437 --> 00:57:22,404 I don't think that the defendants in this case 1099 00:57:22,473 --> 00:57:24,682 have any objection to laws that prevent you 1100 00:57:24,751 --> 00:57:28,203 from cutting through a fence at a military installation. 1101 00:57:28,272 --> 00:57:29,549 That's not the issue. 1102 00:57:29,618 --> 00:57:30,792 Professor Michael Honey 1103 00:57:30,861 --> 00:57:32,932 is a civil rights historian 1104 00:57:33,001 --> 00:57:35,728 and expert on the life of Martin Luther King, Junior 1105 00:57:35,797 --> 00:57:38,351 and nonviolent civil disobedience. 1106 00:57:38,420 --> 00:57:40,767 He testified as an expert witness. 1107 00:57:41,837 --> 00:57:43,011 Throughout our history, 1108 00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,323 people have done this kind of thing. 1109 00:57:45,392 --> 00:57:49,155 King said, in some cases we're opposing laws 1110 00:57:49,224 --> 00:57:50,501 that are themselves unjust, 1111 00:57:50,570 --> 00:57:52,538 which would be the segregation laws. 1112 00:57:52,607 --> 00:57:54,229 He said, but there's another body of laws, 1113 00:57:54,298 --> 00:57:56,507 like if a policeman tells you to move 1114 00:57:56,576 --> 00:57:59,027 or not sit down in the street. 1115 00:57:59,096 --> 00:58:01,029 He said, we're not objecting to those laws, 1116 00:58:01,098 --> 00:58:04,204 we're objecting to the larger moral issue 1117 00:58:04,273 --> 00:58:05,654 and through our demonstration, 1118 00:58:05,723 --> 00:58:07,138 that's the only way we can do it. 1119 00:58:07,207 --> 00:58:10,107 We haven't found any other ways to redress these issues 1120 00:58:10,176 --> 00:58:14,732 except for protest and that seems to be the case here, 1121 00:58:14,801 --> 00:58:16,769 that nothing else seems to be working. 1122 00:58:16,838 --> 00:58:18,011 In fact, it's getting worse. 1123 00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:19,496 They're now talking about modernizing 1124 00:58:19,565 --> 00:58:20,773 the nuclear weapons system 1125 00:58:20,842 --> 00:58:22,775 and spending billions more dollars. 1126 00:58:22,844 --> 00:58:26,364 They're trying to find a way to raise the issue. 1127 00:58:26,433 --> 00:58:28,677 Why did the U.S. go after Saddam Hussein? 1128 00:58:28,746 --> 00:58:30,852 He wasn't using weapons of mass destruction. 1129 00:58:30,921 --> 00:58:33,026 They said that he had them and he might use them 1130 00:58:33,095 --> 00:58:36,927 and that this was illegal and unacceptable and immoral, 1131 00:58:36,996 --> 00:58:38,445 and what's the U.S. doing, 1132 00:58:38,515 --> 00:58:41,621 but the very same thing with nuclear weapons? 1133 00:58:42,967 --> 00:58:45,280 Michael Baur sat on the jury 1134 00:58:45,349 --> 00:58:48,007 and for him the case presented a dilemma. 1135 00:58:48,076 --> 00:58:49,284 You know, it is not every day 1136 00:58:49,353 --> 00:58:51,666 you are asked to sit judgment on people 1137 00:58:51,735 --> 00:58:53,840 who I think are probably are, 1138 00:58:56,118 --> 00:58:58,535 it's a tough one, but maybe morally superior in a way, 1139 00:58:58,604 --> 00:59:01,020 because they've living their lives for God 1140 00:59:01,089 --> 00:59:02,987 and the service of man. 1141 00:59:03,056 --> 00:59:05,507 So for me, to put someone like that away 1142 00:59:05,576 --> 00:59:07,958 or put 'em in jail possibly 1143 00:59:08,027 --> 00:59:09,925 was a little bit hard for me to do. 1144 00:59:11,375 --> 00:59:14,205 What was it that you were really wrestling with? 1145 00:59:16,414 --> 00:59:18,555 Well, just the fact that 1146 00:59:22,766 --> 00:59:24,595 it was really hard for 'em to defend themselves. 1147 00:59:24,664 --> 00:59:26,217 They were guilty and I knew it, 1148 00:59:27,667 --> 00:59:32,603 but in my mind if I decide, if I go with what the law says, 1149 00:59:34,087 --> 00:59:37,746 which a good citizen will do, then it should be no big deal, 1150 00:59:37,815 --> 00:59:39,403 but at the same time, like I said, 1151 00:59:39,472 --> 00:59:40,853 these are some of the good ones 1152 00:59:40,922 --> 00:59:42,889 and I'm gonna possibly put them away for a while. 1153 00:59:42,958 --> 00:59:46,583 And this is what I feel like we need more in society, 1154 00:59:46,652 --> 00:59:48,412 is some more of them. 1155 00:59:51,346 --> 00:59:53,106 The people who were the real victims 1156 00:59:53,175 --> 00:59:54,936 are those marines and sailors 1157 00:59:55,005 --> 00:59:57,421 who were on that reaction force. 1158 00:59:57,490 --> 00:59:59,734 I've been on a reaction force and you are pumped up 1159 00:59:59,803 --> 01:00:02,840 and you are ready and when you go charging in there, 1160 01:00:02,909 --> 01:00:04,980 it speaks very well of the training 1161 01:00:05,049 --> 01:00:06,395 of the marines and the sailors, 1162 01:00:06,464 --> 01:00:08,328 that they didn't shoot some of those people. 1163 01:00:08,397 --> 01:00:10,952 They have the order to shoot to kill. 1164 01:00:11,021 --> 01:00:12,816 You put them in a tough spot. 1165 01:00:12,885 --> 01:00:13,817 How do you react to that? 1166 01:00:13,886 --> 01:00:15,681 Well, how I react to that, 1167 01:00:15,750 --> 01:00:17,268 first of all, we thought about that too. 1168 01:00:17,337 --> 01:00:18,615 We don't want to put anyone 1169 01:00:18,684 --> 01:00:21,410 in that position of having to kill us. 1170 01:00:21,479 --> 01:00:23,896 We prayed that that not happen. 1171 01:00:23,965 --> 01:00:26,553 We went in with all the precautions that we could, 1172 01:00:26,623 --> 01:00:29,729 with our peace symbols, with our banners. 1173 01:00:30,937 --> 01:00:32,421 However, evidence at trial 1174 01:00:32,490 --> 01:00:35,459 revealed Father Bix and several of the other defendants 1175 01:00:35,528 --> 01:00:39,187 also carried living wills with them into the base. 1176 01:00:39,256 --> 01:00:40,947 Father Bichsel 1177 01:00:41,016 --> 01:00:42,984 "I went in there with my medicines." 1178 01:00:43,053 --> 01:00:44,433 You know, had a bag full of medicines. 1179 01:00:44,502 --> 01:00:45,814 He needs medicines to survive. 1180 01:00:45,883 --> 01:00:47,782 It wasn't a suicide mission. 1181 01:00:47,851 --> 01:00:51,924 They did risk being shot and as he pointed out, 1182 01:00:51,993 --> 01:00:53,960 they've done a hundred of these Plowshares actions 1183 01:00:54,029 --> 01:00:55,375 and no one has ever been hurt, 1184 01:00:55,444 --> 01:00:57,377 none of the Plowshares activists, 1185 01:00:57,446 --> 01:00:59,138 none of the military people involved. 1186 01:00:59,207 --> 01:01:01,623 And I think the defendants answered that themselves 1187 01:01:01,692 --> 01:01:04,833 by saying, people are taking risks for war 1188 01:01:04,902 --> 01:01:07,215 all day, every day, all over the world. 1189 01:01:07,284 --> 01:01:09,182 And when you take risks for peace, 1190 01:01:09,251 --> 01:01:11,081 you have to take a few risks as well. 1191 01:01:11,150 --> 01:01:12,427 Today a federal jury convicted 1192 01:01:12,496 --> 01:01:14,429 five anti-war protesters. 1193 01:01:14,498 --> 01:01:16,949 They were found guilty of conspiracy, trespassing 1194 01:01:17,018 --> 01:01:18,985 and destruction of government property. 1195 01:01:19,054 --> 01:01:22,264 Each person faces up to 10 years in prison. 1196 01:01:22,333 --> 01:01:24,784 These people committed a serious offense. 1197 01:01:24,853 --> 01:01:27,856 They trespassed onto Bangor, they got into an area 1198 01:01:27,925 --> 01:01:31,480 that was a lethal force authorized area. 1199 01:01:31,549 --> 01:01:34,345 If something had gone wrong, 1200 01:01:34,414 --> 01:01:37,555 both they and the guards guarding that area 1201 01:01:37,624 --> 01:01:41,387 would have felt tremendous consequences from that. 1202 01:01:41,456 --> 01:01:42,457 The judge described 1203 01:01:42,526 --> 01:01:44,217 the defendants as extraordinary 1204 01:01:44,286 --> 01:01:47,082 because of the sacrificial lives they've led, 1205 01:01:47,151 --> 01:01:50,016 but he called their action a form of anarchy, 1206 01:01:50,085 --> 01:01:52,018 which would lead to the complete breakdown 1207 01:01:52,087 --> 01:01:54,918 of the social order if left unchecked. 1208 01:01:54,987 --> 01:01:57,368 He sentenced Father Steve and Susan Crane 1209 01:01:57,437 --> 01:01:59,716 each to 15 months in prison, 1210 01:02:02,339 --> 01:02:06,826 Lynne Greenwald six months, 1211 01:02:06,895 --> 01:02:08,690 Father Bix three months 1212 01:02:10,899 --> 01:02:14,075 and Sister Anne Montgomery two months. 1213 01:02:23,084 --> 01:02:24,292 What are your thoughts about the outcome? 1214 01:02:24,361 --> 01:02:25,742 We're pleased that the court recognized 1215 01:02:25,811 --> 01:02:27,571 the seriousness of the offense. 1216 01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,332 He found, the judge found that if everyone behaved 1217 01:02:30,401 --> 01:02:32,921 in this manner, society could not function. 1218 01:02:32,990 --> 01:02:34,233 Did it trouble you 1219 01:02:34,302 --> 01:02:35,786 that you had to send a nun to prison though? 1220 01:02:35,855 --> 01:02:38,927 Those choices were made by the individuals who made them. 1221 01:02:38,996 --> 01:02:40,515 That's not what we are looking at. 1222 01:02:40,584 --> 01:02:42,793 We are looking at what was the crime that was committed here 1223 01:02:42,862 --> 01:02:44,968 and it was a serious offense. 1224 01:02:45,037 --> 01:02:46,970 The judge ordered Father Stephen Kelly 1225 01:02:47,039 --> 01:02:48,523 into custody right away, 1226 01:02:48,592 --> 01:02:50,836 saying that he was too much of a risk to re-offend. 1227 01:02:50,905 --> 01:02:52,803 Well, the other four say that they couldn't guarantee 1228 01:02:52,872 --> 01:02:54,771 that they wouldn't go out and re-offend right away too, 1229 01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:56,945 so the judge says, okay, everybody goes 1230 01:02:57,014 --> 01:02:59,154 into this federal detention center right now. 1231 01:03:18,933 --> 01:03:20,935 If you want to come in, it would be good. 1232 01:03:23,351 --> 01:03:26,699 I know that the defendants were ready for today. 1233 01:03:26,768 --> 01:03:29,944 And the judge said, true words, right? 1234 01:03:30,013 --> 01:03:33,533 Jail is no deterrent to the spirit of the people 1235 01:03:33,602 --> 01:03:34,880 who were in the courtroom today. 1236 01:03:34,949 --> 01:03:35,846 Is that right? 1237 01:03:35,915 --> 01:03:36,985 That's right. 1238 01:03:39,643 --> 01:03:44,648 We must act again, was my feeling when we ended that trial 1239 01:03:45,787 --> 01:03:49,066 and they stood up and were handcuffed 1240 01:03:49,135 --> 01:03:52,690 and taken out to go to prison 1241 01:03:52,759 --> 01:03:57,834 and the jury had failed to see the truth, in my view. 1242 01:03:58,973 --> 01:04:03,011 Another action had to take place soon to show 1243 01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:07,602 that just going to prison is not enough to deter people 1244 01:04:07,671 --> 01:04:10,881 from speaking the truth about this. 1245 01:04:10,950 --> 01:04:13,573 I felt that I needed time to think 1246 01:04:13,642 --> 01:04:16,231 about how we could act again. 1247 01:04:17,854 --> 01:04:21,996 I was able to be there for Anne's release after two months. 1248 01:04:22,065 --> 01:04:24,895 It sends signals all the time. 1249 01:04:24,964 --> 01:04:27,277 That's a GPS monitoring system, 1250 01:04:27,346 --> 01:04:29,900 so they know exactly where I am now. 1251 01:04:29,969 --> 01:04:34,663 They use this for people they feel can, I guess, 1252 01:04:35,837 --> 01:04:38,253 not commit murder while they're out of prison. 1253 01:04:40,221 --> 01:04:43,362 I had Bix's car, actually, 1254 01:04:43,431 --> 01:04:46,261 and I was able to drive her to mass once a week. 1255 01:04:46,330 --> 01:04:48,677 She had permission to go to church 1256 01:04:48,746 --> 01:04:53,441 and so we would have time together. 1257 01:04:57,376 --> 01:05:00,379 I was fired up and energized to do 1258 01:05:00,448 --> 01:05:02,760 whatever I could to support the movement 1259 01:05:02,829 --> 01:05:07,006 to end the nuclear industrial complex. 1260 01:05:07,075 --> 01:05:10,976 I'm coming to ask for a future action 1261 01:05:11,045 --> 01:05:12,874 Yes! 1262 01:05:12,943 --> 01:05:17,741 Expose this horrendous plan to modernize 1263 01:05:17,810 --> 01:05:22,815 and to expand and to proliferate nuclear weapons. 1264 01:05:23,643 --> 01:05:24,817 It almost seems to me 1265 01:05:24,886 --> 01:05:27,061 that the baton had been passed on to you. 1266 01:05:27,130 --> 01:05:29,339 Oh absolutely, absolutely, 1267 01:05:29,408 --> 01:05:33,274 especially when she was 84 and I was only 82 1268 01:05:33,343 --> 01:05:36,553 and I had nothing to complain of. 1269 01:05:36,622 --> 01:05:40,798 I mean, I had no reason to say I can't do this, really. 1270 01:05:40,867 --> 01:05:43,560 There's been a security breach at a U.S. nuclear facility 1271 01:05:43,629 --> 01:05:45,734 which is supposed to be one of the most 1272 01:05:45,803 --> 01:05:48,082 secure sites in the world. 1273 01:05:48,151 --> 01:05:49,531 Take a look at this picture. 1274 01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:53,052 Authorities say she is the an 82-year-old nun. 1275 01:05:53,121 --> 01:05:58,126 I telephoned to her and she was very pleased, 1276 01:06:00,059 --> 01:06:04,305 cheered up by the fact that another action did evolve. 1277 01:06:15,247 --> 01:06:17,697 Our Sister Anne has gone to her rest 1278 01:06:17,766 --> 01:06:19,596 in the peace of Christ. 1279 01:06:21,287 --> 01:06:24,601 May the Lord now welcome her to paradise. 1280 01:06:24,670 --> 01:06:28,156 Holy is this earth that beholds in gentle embrace 1281 01:06:28,225 --> 01:06:32,643 those buried here and receives our Sister Anne this day. 1282 01:06:35,646 --> 01:06:36,509 We love you, Anne. 1283 01:06:36,578 --> 01:06:38,580 Thank you for loving us. 1284 01:06:50,144 --> 01:06:51,524 For following her conscience 1285 01:06:51,593 --> 01:06:54,044 with integrity and perseverance. 1286 01:06:54,113 --> 01:06:55,494 We remember her. 1287 01:06:55,563 --> 01:06:57,358 For her belief in the necessity 1288 01:06:57,427 --> 01:06:59,187 and strength of community. 1289 01:06:59,256 --> 01:07:00,878 We remember her. 1290 01:07:00,947 --> 01:07:02,156 For her insights 1291 01:07:02,225 --> 01:07:04,675 into the interconnectedness of all things. 1292 01:07:04,744 --> 01:07:06,263 We remember her. 1293 01:07:06,332 --> 01:07:07,920 We know different, 1294 01:07:07,989 --> 01:07:10,233 for somehow with this extradition you're a violation of. 1295 01:07:10,302 --> 01:07:12,476 All of us were in our 20s, it was pretty scary, 1296 01:07:12,545 --> 01:07:15,824 but Anne was a very centering presence to us. 1297 01:07:15,893 --> 01:07:18,413 There were eight of us in the Pershing Plowshares, 1298 01:07:18,482 --> 01:07:22,107 Anne Montgomery sort of being the maternal presence there 1299 01:07:22,176 --> 01:07:26,559 because she was 58 and just this very calm, 1300 01:07:26,628 --> 01:07:28,423 determined, strong woman. 1301 01:07:28,492 --> 01:07:30,667 Jury selection has been difficult, 1302 01:07:30,736 --> 01:07:33,083 at least it's going very slowly. 1303 01:07:33,152 --> 01:07:36,086 Well, we went to trial, got convicted in federal court, 1304 01:07:36,155 --> 01:07:38,882 but a couple of years after we did our action, 1305 01:07:38,951 --> 01:07:41,367 we had the superpowers negotiating 1306 01:07:41,436 --> 01:07:43,197 away the Pershing missiles 1307 01:07:43,266 --> 01:07:44,784 and signing a treaty that talked 1308 01:07:44,853 --> 01:07:47,960 about crushing them, cutting them, shredding them. 1309 01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:52,171 Gorbachev got a Nobel Prize for that 1310 01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,725 and I thought the prize shoulda gone to Anne Montgomery 1311 01:07:54,794 --> 01:07:58,453 for leading us through a really profound disarmament action. 1312 01:07:59,903 --> 01:08:02,457 And the world lost an extraordinary peacemaker. 1313 01:08:08,118 --> 01:08:09,430 The gentleman from Massachusetts, 1314 01:08:09,499 --> 01:08:11,259 Mr. Markey, is recognized for five minutes. 1315 01:08:11,328 --> 01:08:14,090 Thank you, Sister Megan Rice, for being here. 1316 01:08:14,159 --> 01:08:15,781 Thank you for your actions. 1317 01:08:15,850 --> 01:08:20,441 Thank you for your willingness to focus attention 1318 01:08:20,510 --> 01:08:24,583 on this nuclear weapons buildup 1319 01:08:24,652 --> 01:08:29,450 that still exists in our world 1320 01:08:29,519 --> 01:08:32,832 and how much we need to do something to reduce it. 1321 01:08:32,901 --> 01:08:35,214 We don't need more nuclear weapons, 1322 01:08:35,283 --> 01:08:36,871 we need fewer nuclear weapons. 1323 01:08:36,940 --> 01:08:39,425 What you have done is you have shown the laxness 1324 01:08:39,494 --> 01:08:44,050 of the security at our nuclear weapons facilities, 1325 01:08:45,604 --> 01:08:47,502 but you've also pointed out that we still have 1326 01:08:47,571 --> 01:08:50,402 an out-of-control nuclear arms race 1327 01:08:50,471 --> 01:08:51,886 with an out-of-control budget, 1328 01:08:51,955 --> 01:08:54,509 and for that you should be praised. 1329 01:09:01,999 --> 01:09:03,829 Three nuclear weapons protesters 1330 01:09:03,898 --> 01:09:07,384 who pulled off an unprecedented break-in at Y-12 1331 01:09:07,453 --> 01:09:09,800 now face more charges and tougher penalties. 1332 01:09:09,869 --> 01:09:13,735 63-year-old Michael Walli, 57-year-old Greg Boertje-Obed 1333 01:09:13,804 --> 01:09:16,082 and 82-year-old nun Megan Rice. 1334 01:09:16,152 --> 01:09:17,463 Now the trio are charged 1335 01:09:17,532 --> 01:09:18,982 with one count of sabotage 1336 01:09:19,051 --> 01:09:22,813 and one count of damage of property in excess of $1,000. 1337 01:09:22,882 --> 01:09:24,332 Now if convicted, 1338 01:09:24,401 --> 01:09:27,197 the three could each face up to 30 years in prison. 1339 01:09:27,266 --> 01:09:28,923 Nations will not lift 1340 01:09:28,992 --> 01:09:31,960 swords against nations. 1341 01:09:32,029 --> 01:09:33,307 Hi! 1342 01:09:33,376 --> 01:09:34,825 As the three awaited trial, 1343 01:09:34,894 --> 01:09:37,138 they met with graduate students and faculty 1344 01:09:37,207 --> 01:09:38,898 at the University of Tennessee. 1345 01:09:38,967 --> 01:09:41,073 I went into the military 1346 01:09:41,142 --> 01:09:43,420 and they trained us to use nuclear weapons. 1347 01:09:43,489 --> 01:09:48,149 And they taught us about radiation, how radiation can kill, 1348 01:09:48,218 --> 01:09:50,013 gamma radiation in particular. 1349 01:09:50,082 --> 01:09:51,739 My conscience said no. 1350 01:09:51,808 --> 01:09:55,191 Nuclear weapons are gonna kill many people, 1351 01:09:55,260 --> 01:09:56,882 not just the soldiers. 1352 01:09:56,951 --> 01:09:59,091 Greg joined ROTC to pay 1353 01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:01,300 his college tuition at Tulane. 1354 01:10:01,369 --> 01:10:03,509 He is a husband and father. 1355 01:10:03,578 --> 01:10:06,409 Michael grew up on a farm in northern Michigan 1356 01:10:06,478 --> 01:10:09,101 and enlisted in the army at the age of 18. 1357 01:10:09,170 --> 01:10:11,793 He served two tours of duty in Vietnam. 1358 01:10:11,862 --> 01:10:14,934 The two have acted before in Plowshares protests 1359 01:10:15,003 --> 01:10:17,868 and spent a combined eight years in prison. 1360 01:10:17,937 --> 01:10:20,077 So what do you think's gonna happen to you? 1361 01:10:20,146 --> 01:10:21,907 They offered us a plea bargain. 1362 01:10:21,976 --> 01:10:23,943 We said, "No, we feel we're not guilty." 1363 01:10:24,012 --> 01:10:27,361 "We believe we were following international law." 1364 01:10:27,430 --> 01:10:29,190 They said, "Plead guilty to this 1365 01:10:29,259 --> 01:10:31,192 "or we're gonna add more charges." 1366 01:10:31,261 --> 01:10:33,677 We still stayed with our not guilty. 1367 01:10:33,746 --> 01:10:36,508 They said, "Okay, we're gonna add sabotage." 1368 01:10:36,577 --> 01:10:38,682 Which is a 20-year charge. 1369 01:10:38,751 --> 01:10:40,753 And could you go through the litany of things 1370 01:10:40,822 --> 01:10:42,410 that the government is motioning 1371 01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:45,171 to preclude you from presenting? 1372 01:10:45,241 --> 01:10:47,139 Michael, do you wanna try it? 1373 01:10:47,208 --> 01:10:49,555 God is irrelevant, we can't talk about that. 1374 01:10:49,624 --> 01:10:54,008 Our legal right to practice religion is irrelevant. 1375 01:10:54,077 --> 01:10:56,044 The U.S. Constitution is irrelevant. 1376 01:10:56,113 --> 01:10:58,530 International law, which connects up 1377 01:10:58,599 --> 01:11:01,981 with the Constitutional law, that's irrelevant. 1378 01:11:02,050 --> 01:11:04,052 The common good is irrelevant. 1379 01:11:04,121 --> 01:11:07,090 Human rights are irrelevant. 1380 01:11:07,159 --> 01:11:08,540 Intention. 1381 01:11:08,609 --> 01:11:12,302 Our intentions, why we did what we did, that's irrelevant. 1382 01:11:14,718 --> 01:11:16,168 I'm here at the courthouse 1383 01:11:16,237 --> 01:11:17,721 in downtown Knoxville, where this trial's been going on 1384 01:11:17,790 --> 01:11:19,827 since about nine o'clock this morning. 1385 01:11:21,518 --> 01:11:22,968 I know that they meant well, 1386 01:11:23,037 --> 01:11:26,143 but they really hurt a lot of people, individual lives, 1387 01:11:26,212 --> 01:11:29,112 and I'm an economics teacher, so I think of it that way, 1388 01:11:29,181 --> 01:11:31,079 of whose lives did they really impact? 1389 01:11:32,218 --> 01:11:33,565 And the people that lost their jobs 1390 01:11:33,634 --> 01:11:35,360 that were guarding the facility 1391 01:11:35,429 --> 01:11:37,293 and the managers and things like that 1392 01:11:38,432 --> 01:11:40,675 were very hurt by their actions. 1393 01:11:43,851 --> 01:11:46,543 It should be within our scope to be able 1394 01:11:46,612 --> 01:11:50,996 to transform Y-12 into a place of peace 1395 01:11:51,065 --> 01:11:52,549 rather than a place that generates 1396 01:11:52,618 --> 01:11:54,379 weapons of mass destruction. 1397 01:11:54,448 --> 01:11:56,829 Transform now! 1398 01:11:56,898 --> 01:11:58,072 Transform now! 1399 01:11:59,625 --> 01:12:01,351 The prosecutor's gonna put on their case. 1400 01:12:01,420 --> 01:12:03,180 It might prove that a few things have been broken, 1401 01:12:03,249 --> 01:12:06,460 but we can't believe that they're gonna show any sabotage. 1402 01:12:06,529 --> 01:12:07,806 It's really been a battle 1403 01:12:07,875 --> 01:12:09,842 between the prosecution and the defense 1404 01:12:09,911 --> 01:12:14,916 as to whether the trio presented any actual threat to Y-12. 1405 01:12:16,297 --> 01:12:17,712 One of the first witnesses called to the stand 1406 01:12:17,781 --> 01:12:20,474 was Steve Erhart, the highest ranking officer at Y-12. 1407 01:12:20,543 --> 01:12:23,684 Early on, the prosecution asked what harm had been done. 1408 01:12:23,753 --> 01:12:27,412 Erhart responded it delayed a secret convoy 1409 01:12:27,481 --> 01:12:29,345 that was supposed to bring in a shipment that night 1410 01:12:29,414 --> 01:12:31,588 and it also hurt the U.S.'s credibility 1411 01:12:31,657 --> 01:12:34,833 with other countries when it came to nuclear weapons. 1412 01:12:34,902 --> 01:12:38,457 To make God's dream for the human family a reality. 1413 01:12:38,526 --> 01:12:41,529 I think this trial points to a major problem 1414 01:12:41,598 --> 01:12:46,431 in the U.S. justice motions in limine 1415 01:12:46,500 --> 01:12:48,260 which don't allow the defense 1416 01:12:48,329 --> 01:12:51,228 to actually present their defense. 1417 01:12:51,297 --> 01:12:55,957 Should be condemned by judges and lawyers 1418 01:12:56,026 --> 01:12:57,890 on both sides of the aisle, 1419 01:12:57,959 --> 01:13:01,100 as it really undermines the truth 1420 01:13:01,169 --> 01:13:04,690 of justice process in this country. 1421 01:13:04,759 --> 01:13:07,037 As the prosecution walked out the gates, 1422 01:13:07,106 --> 01:13:09,385 supporters of the activists circled 1423 01:13:09,454 --> 01:13:10,972 in front of the courthouse. 1424 01:13:11,041 --> 01:13:14,251 Transform now, transform now, transform now. 1425 01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:15,874 A saying that we have in the movement 1426 01:13:15,943 --> 01:13:18,152 is you can jail the resisters, 1427 01:13:18,221 --> 01:13:19,878 but you can't jail the resistance. 1428 01:13:19,947 --> 01:13:23,709 The spirit has been released here on it. 1429 01:13:25,297 --> 01:13:27,333 Y-12 will never be the same anymore. 1430 01:13:28,369 --> 01:13:29,266 They were convicted. 1431 01:13:29,335 --> 01:13:30,475 They were convicted of sabotage 1432 01:13:30,544 --> 01:13:33,305 and of depredation of government property. 1433 01:13:37,516 --> 01:13:39,000 Guilty as charged, 1434 01:13:39,069 --> 01:13:42,901 the three Y-12 protesters now wait to hear their sentence. 1435 01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:45,144 What would be fair in this case? 1436 01:13:45,213 --> 01:13:47,077 A sentencing that's appropriate. 1437 01:13:47,146 --> 01:13:48,872 We don't really think that she belongs, 1438 01:13:48,941 --> 01:13:51,427 as a nonviolent offender, in jail. 1439 01:13:54,257 --> 01:13:56,604 Their sentencing came down late this afternoon. 1440 01:13:56,673 --> 01:13:58,192 The two men, they were sentenced 1441 01:13:58,261 --> 01:14:00,850 to just over five years in prison. 1442 01:14:00,919 --> 01:14:03,439 Sister Megan Rice, 84 years old, 1443 01:14:03,508 --> 01:14:07,028 was sentenced to one month shy of three years in prison. 1444 01:14:07,097 --> 01:14:09,168 He did not think the ends justified the means, 1445 01:14:09,237 --> 01:14:12,240 so you can't go breaking into a federal facility 1446 01:14:12,309 --> 01:14:13,863 because you believe you're protecting 1447 01:14:13,932 --> 01:14:15,174 the future of the planet. 1448 01:14:15,243 --> 01:14:16,452 Any of the attorneys, are you? 1449 01:14:16,521 --> 01:14:17,901 Yeah, I can speak, I just found out. 1450 01:14:17,970 --> 01:14:19,455 I've had to keep my mouth shut up to now 1451 01:14:19,524 --> 01:14:20,904 because of the local rule. 1452 01:14:20,973 --> 01:14:22,388 My name is Chris Irwin. 1453 01:14:22,458 --> 01:14:23,942 My family has been in this town for, I believe, 1454 01:14:24,011 --> 01:14:26,427 five generations, according to my uncle Buford. 1455 01:14:26,496 --> 01:14:28,394 I've always lived in the shadow of the heart 1456 01:14:28,464 --> 01:14:30,914 of the American nuclear weapons production complex, 1457 01:14:30,983 --> 01:14:33,158 where they make mobile death camps. 1458 01:14:33,227 --> 01:14:36,230 In World War II, they brought the people to the death camps. 1459 01:14:36,299 --> 01:14:37,990 In some obscenity, we've now figured out 1460 01:14:38,059 --> 01:14:40,027 how to bring the death camps to the people. 1461 01:14:40,096 --> 01:14:42,098 I've been proud every minute I've been in the crowd 1462 01:14:42,167 --> 01:14:44,376 with these people and everyone who is here. 1463 01:14:53,627 --> 01:14:56,802 Once again, in this sort of criminal case, 1464 01:14:56,871 --> 01:15:00,944 the court has ruled that the necessity 1465 01:15:01,013 --> 01:15:06,018 or justification defense could not be put to the jury. 1466 01:15:07,226 --> 01:15:08,745 In my opinion, that's part of a larger trend 1467 01:15:08,814 --> 01:15:11,265 to take more issues away from juries. 1468 01:15:22,276 --> 01:15:23,933 Sister Megan was incarcerated 1469 01:15:24,002 --> 01:15:27,177 at the federal detention center in Brooklyn, New York. 1470 01:15:27,246 --> 01:15:29,594 Meanwhile, her lawyers moved forward 1471 01:15:29,663 --> 01:15:31,941 to appeal the sabotage conviction. 1472 01:15:33,252 --> 01:15:34,460 She's is in prison now 1473 01:15:34,530 --> 01:15:37,636 and here you are less than 10 miles away. 1474 01:15:37,705 --> 01:15:40,294 She's being held in a holding facility, 1475 01:15:40,363 --> 01:15:41,744 which is not where a person 1476 01:15:41,813 --> 01:15:43,677 is supposed to be held for very long, 1477 01:15:43,746 --> 01:15:45,230 and she's there for a long time, 1478 01:15:45,299 --> 01:15:47,888 because the prisons in this country are so overcrowded. 1479 01:15:47,957 --> 01:15:51,098 So her conditions, she does not get fresh air very often. 1480 01:15:51,167 --> 01:15:54,239 She's in a very confined space and it's really not, 1481 01:15:54,308 --> 01:15:56,379 not that prisons are much better, 1482 01:15:56,448 --> 01:15:57,932 but for a long length of time, 1483 01:15:58,001 --> 01:16:01,695 it would be a better place than this place in Brooklyn. 1484 01:16:01,764 --> 01:16:05,215 I'm here in the name of Sister Megan Rice, 1485 01:16:05,284 --> 01:16:08,529 Greg Boertje-Obed and Michael Walli, 1486 01:16:08,598 --> 01:16:11,739 who have written to us and asked that we be on the streets, 1487 01:16:11,808 --> 01:16:15,156 because at the United Nations at this time, 1488 01:16:15,225 --> 01:16:16,986 the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty 1489 01:16:17,055 --> 01:16:20,576 signed by the United States in 1970 stated 1490 01:16:20,645 --> 01:16:23,786 that the United States and the nuclear weapon powers 1491 01:16:23,855 --> 01:16:25,684 would abolish all nuclear weapons. 1492 01:16:25,753 --> 01:16:28,722 We have neglected our duty for 45 years. 1493 01:16:28,791 --> 01:16:31,656 It is a great honor for me to declare open 1494 01:16:31,725 --> 01:16:34,969 the 2015 Review Conference of the Parties 1495 01:16:35,038 --> 01:16:38,145 to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons. 1496 01:16:39,767 --> 01:16:43,668 The treaty, which entered into force 45 years ago, 1497 01:16:43,737 --> 01:16:47,257 has played a crucial role in nuclear non-proliferation, 1498 01:16:47,326 --> 01:16:50,847 nuclear disarmament and the peaceful uses of nuclear energy. 1499 01:16:52,055 --> 01:16:54,368 I would like to extend a very warm welcome 1500 01:16:54,437 --> 01:16:57,474 to all states party to the NPT. 1501 01:16:57,543 --> 01:17:02,100 As they're discussing it, we are here to teach, to preach. 1502 01:17:02,169 --> 01:17:03,826 No more Hiroshimas! 1503 01:17:03,895 --> 01:17:05,793 No more Hiroshimas! 1504 01:17:05,862 --> 01:17:08,209 No more Nagasakis! 1505 01:17:08,278 --> 01:17:11,109 The president of the conference and the UN 1506 01:17:11,178 --> 01:17:13,214 have received petitions calling 1507 01:17:13,283 --> 01:17:15,561 for the elimination of nuclear weapons. 1508 01:17:16,908 --> 01:17:19,013 These petitions have millions of signatures 1509 01:17:19,082 --> 01:17:21,567 from concerned citizens across the world. 1510 01:17:22,707 --> 01:17:25,606 This is a powerful reminder of the hopes 1511 01:17:25,675 --> 01:17:29,472 and the expectations of the peoples we are here to serve. 1512 01:17:31,163 --> 01:17:32,578 There was no intention, I believe, 1513 01:17:32,648 --> 01:17:35,616 at any year of any American administration 1514 01:17:35,685 --> 01:17:37,756 to fulfill its international obligations 1515 01:17:37,825 --> 01:17:40,207 under that treaty of Article VI, 1516 01:17:40,276 --> 01:17:43,555 which calls for the prompt initiation of negotiations 1517 01:17:43,624 --> 01:17:46,731 toward a prompt elimination of nuclear weapons. 1518 01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:48,664 And it's not only the United States. 1519 01:17:48,733 --> 01:17:50,389 The other nuclear weapon states, 1520 01:17:50,458 --> 01:17:52,115 of which there are now nine, 1521 01:17:52,184 --> 01:17:54,531 at that time, by the way, there weren't nine, 1522 01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:58,363 none of the states have made any progress to speak of. 1523 01:18:09,685 --> 01:18:14,690 Daniel Ellsberg was a Pentagon nuclear war planner, 1524 01:18:16,001 --> 01:18:18,348 best known perhaps for releasing the Pentagon Papers 1525 01:18:18,417 --> 01:18:21,766 and being sentenced to 109 years in prison. 1526 01:18:21,835 --> 01:18:24,009 My friend Daniel Ellsberg. 1527 01:18:28,013 --> 01:18:29,187 Thank you very much. 1528 01:18:29,256 --> 01:18:31,914 It is outrageous that these numbers of weapons 1529 01:18:31,983 --> 01:18:34,813 and their targeting remain on alert or exist in the world. 1530 01:18:34,882 --> 01:18:37,195 The number of weapons has decreased 1531 01:18:37,264 --> 01:18:38,817 between the U.S. and Russia, 1532 01:18:38,886 --> 01:18:42,648 but not to a level that precludes nuclear winter. 1533 01:18:42,718 --> 01:18:44,927 We're far above the level that would cause 1534 01:18:44,996 --> 01:18:48,033 nuclear winter and worldwide famine, 1535 01:18:48,102 --> 01:18:50,311 near extinction of the human species 1536 01:18:50,380 --> 01:18:53,418 if we carried out our existing war plans. 1537 01:18:56,904 --> 01:18:59,804 U.S. nuclear weapons, get 'em while they're hot. 1538 01:18:59,873 --> 01:19:02,910 Each red dot is a nuclear weapon on U.S. soil. 1539 01:19:02,979 --> 01:19:07,984 We have 450 land-based ICBMs still in the United States, 1540 01:19:08,882 --> 01:19:10,331 each one on high trigger alert. 1541 01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:13,369 They're at the beck and call of the president. 1542 01:19:16,855 --> 01:19:18,754 So many people are feeling disheartened 1543 01:19:18,823 --> 01:19:20,376 that they've been waiting for so long 1544 01:19:20,445 --> 01:19:23,275 for Article VI to actually be realized. 1545 01:19:23,344 --> 01:19:25,553 Well, I think what the non-nuclear weapon states 1546 01:19:25,622 --> 01:19:28,246 are waiting for and the people of the world are waiting for 1547 01:19:28,315 --> 01:19:31,767 is really an action plan that actually has steps 1548 01:19:31,836 --> 01:19:34,873 for implementing and a timetable that is attached to it. 1549 01:19:34,942 --> 01:19:37,600 This year is the 45th anniversary 1550 01:19:37,669 --> 01:19:39,291 of the existence of the NPT, 1551 01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:41,673 and that's a long time to be waiting for this. 1552 01:19:45,021 --> 01:19:48,473 I am ordering you to leave this restricted area now. 1553 01:19:48,542 --> 01:19:50,095 If you do so voluntarily, 1554 01:19:50,164 --> 01:19:51,683 no charges will be placed against you. 1555 01:19:54,617 --> 01:19:55,860 If you do not wish to be arrested, 1556 01:19:55,929 --> 01:19:58,000 you must leave this restricted area. 1557 01:20:03,108 --> 01:20:05,352 Young people haven't lived in a world 1558 01:20:05,421 --> 01:20:08,424 of the Cuban Missile Crisis or the Berlin Crisis, 1559 01:20:08,493 --> 01:20:12,048 which I participated in, both of those in the Pentagon. 1560 01:20:12,117 --> 01:20:13,981 And they really haven't been made aware 1561 01:20:14,050 --> 01:20:16,087 of the danger that actually still exists. 1562 01:20:16,156 --> 01:20:18,054 I don't think they have much awareness 1563 01:20:18,123 --> 01:20:20,056 that there is a nuclear threat. 1564 01:20:20,125 --> 01:20:22,265 We're out here to try to wake people up. 1565 01:20:22,334 --> 01:20:25,993 No nukes, no nukes, no nukes! 1566 01:20:27,270 --> 01:20:29,203 Disarm now, disarm now! 1567 01:20:33,414 --> 01:20:35,831 - Wage love. - Against the wall right now! 1568 01:20:35,900 --> 01:20:37,902 Wage love, not hatred. 1569 01:20:40,145 --> 01:20:41,940 Wage love, not hatred. 1570 01:20:44,218 --> 01:20:45,806 Love, not hatred. 1571 01:20:45,875 --> 01:20:47,773 Wage love, not hatred. 1572 01:20:47,843 --> 01:20:49,637 Wage love, not hatred. 1573 01:20:54,504 --> 01:20:56,852 Arrest those who wage war, 1574 01:20:56,921 --> 01:20:59,509 not those who wage peace. 1575 01:20:59,578 --> 01:21:04,583 Arrest those who wage war, not those who wage peace. 1576 01:21:06,033 --> 01:21:09,692 Arrest those who wage war, not those who wage peace. 1577 01:21:10,555 --> 01:21:12,522 Arrest those who wage war. 1578 01:21:12,591 --> 01:21:14,662 Free the peacemakers! 1579 01:21:14,731 --> 01:21:18,287 Arrest the warmakers! 1580 01:21:23,809 --> 01:21:24,672 Thank you. 1581 01:21:24,741 --> 01:21:25,984 The meeting is adjourned. 1582 01:21:30,609 --> 01:21:31,852 Sister Megan was sentenced 1583 01:21:31,921 --> 01:21:34,130 to almost three years in prison, 35 months. 1584 01:21:34,199 --> 01:21:37,168 Her co-conspirators got five years in prison. 1585 01:21:37,237 --> 01:21:39,825 But now, having served just two years in prison, 1586 01:21:39,895 --> 01:21:42,967 they are all free suddenly. 1587 01:21:43,036 --> 01:21:45,762 A federal appeals court last week decided to uphold 1588 01:21:45,831 --> 01:21:48,006 their convictions for destruction of property, 1589 01:21:48,075 --> 01:21:49,318 but the court overturned 1590 01:21:49,387 --> 01:21:51,665 the more serious conviction of sabotage. 1591 01:21:51,734 --> 01:21:54,737 The court of appeals essentially said this is a protest. 1592 01:21:54,806 --> 01:21:57,567 These folks are engaged in peaceful protest 1593 01:21:57,636 --> 01:21:59,776 and that they were prayerful 1594 01:21:59,845 --> 01:22:02,434 and that the security of the United States 1595 01:22:02,503 --> 01:22:04,712 was never at risk from this. 1596 01:22:04,781 --> 01:22:06,197 And according to the New Yorker, 1597 01:22:06,266 --> 01:22:08,785 this was the first time in 30 years that the conviction 1598 01:22:08,854 --> 01:22:12,237 of an anti-nuclear protester had been vacated. 1599 01:22:12,306 --> 01:22:14,860 So we're still in the struggle. 1600 01:22:14,930 --> 01:22:18,036 We're still on the journey and we sisters 1601 01:22:18,105 --> 01:22:21,315 who have this life to give will give our lives 1602 01:22:21,384 --> 01:22:23,524 for the abolition of all nuclear weapons. 1603 01:22:31,049 --> 01:22:33,914 This is a historic moment for the international community. 1604 01:22:41,646 --> 01:22:43,303 The United Nations formally adopted 1605 01:22:43,372 --> 01:22:45,891 the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons. 1606 01:22:50,379 --> 01:22:52,070 Are you hopeful things can change? 1607 01:22:52,139 --> 01:22:54,417 Of course I am, of course. 1608 01:22:54,486 --> 01:22:57,041 That's the pattern of evolution. 1609 01:22:57,110 --> 01:23:00,906 Change is always happening and it always comes out 1610 01:23:00,976 --> 01:23:03,219 better in the end, in my view. 1611 01:23:03,288 --> 01:23:06,188 And in many other people's views. 1612 01:23:11,572 --> 01:23:14,506 And the Nuclear-Free Future Award 1613 01:23:14,575 --> 01:23:18,717 is going to Megan Rice, Michael Walli, and Greg Boertje-Obed 1614 01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:21,582 of the United States of America 1615 01:23:21,651 --> 01:23:25,000 for their act of courageous civil disobedience 1616 01:23:25,069 --> 01:23:30,039 symbolically pounding nuclear weapons into plowshares. 119991

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