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- Harry Potter had turned
from a book
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into a fledgling franchise, into
an efficient filmmaking factory.
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- Cheaper, better,
and faster as well.
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That's what everyone
wants to hear.
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- But the magic formula failed
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when Harry's Goblet of Fire
overflowed.
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- They spent an awful lot of
money on the fourth film.
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- Warner Bros' bubble had burst.
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- They felt they needed to just
rein things in a little bit,
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so the budget started to drop
as we got to the fifth film.
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- Not helping the drive
for consistency
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were endless personnel changes.
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Key figures were dropping
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like Defense
Against the Dark Arts teachers.
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- I wasn't invited.
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- Everything is temporary
in the film industry.
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I missed Peter, that's for sure.
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- We told it like it is,
as they say,
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and very often in life,
people don't want to hear that.
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- He joined director
Chris Columbus, Alfonso Cuaron,
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Mike Newell,
and visual effects gurus.
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- I found a reason
for me to leave.
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- When you weren't
being listened to,
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I said, well, time to move on.
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- That frustrated Peter a lot,
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because he ran a very tight ship
and, you know,
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he was one of the main reasons
those first four films got made,
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because he did so much work.
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- And the complexities
of adult life
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were becoming all too real
for the cast.
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- Emma Watson almost quit
after movie four.
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- Daniel Radcliffe, too, was
reaching the end of his tether.
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- He had a drinking problem
and was coming to the set drunk.
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- In fact, the whole Potterverse
was now heading to a dark place.
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- This is when we're out
of the school more and we're
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sort of learning more about
the resistance to Voldemort.
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-
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- This is where
everything changes.
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This is where it really
starts to get dark.
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- Over the years,
the Harry Potter story
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continued to evolve.
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The books' themes had matured,
just as the readers had.
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And for the fifth
Harry Potter story,
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The Order of the Phoenix,
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JK Rowling
had entered uncharted territory.
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- It was less fantastical,
it seemed to me,
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and more political.
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- And with a new take on Potter
came a new scriptwriter.
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- This movie was written
by Michael Goldenberg.
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Having written the screenplays
for Peter Pan and Contact,
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this script wizard
would have his work cut out.
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- Because this was
the weakest book.
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- It was also the longest yet.
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- It's a tough one. It's
not an easy book to get through.
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- A struggle,
even for its author.
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- She wasn't quite sure
about what was gonna happen
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in the fifth book.
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- It's probably the most adult
and complex of the stories.
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- Script-wise, it was a tricky
one, it was a really tricky one.
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It didn't flow as well.
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We had a lot of script revisions
on that film.
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- The script didn't have as much
of the flavor of the book.
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- Partly because the Harry
Potter books were lengthening,
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along with the attention span
of their older readers.
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However...
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- There are things
that work on a page
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that don't work on a screen
and vice versa.
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- The trick of adapting them
was only getting harder
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and more expensive.
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- As the books and the movies
became more complex,
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it was a natural thing
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that they were going to diverge
at some point.
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- So, not only
was there a new, lengthy,
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politically complex text
to adapt,
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Harry Potter
and the Order of the Phoenix
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also needed a new director.
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- One of the
most disruptive things,
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but probably inspiring things,
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is changing directors
every film.
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- After three directors
across four films,
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change was a constant.
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- We're all just used to,
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every time we signed up
for a new film,
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we'd say, "Okay,
who's the director?"
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There was a core of us
that worked on all the films,
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and that would include,
you know,
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most of us
in the art department,
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in the special effects
department,
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in the miniatures department,
the creature effects department.
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- No matter who came in
to photograph it,
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we had that continuity going
all the way through the films.
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- So David Heyman
needed someone
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to direct this big budget
Hollywood movie,
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and so he chose David Yates.
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- David Yates was not a big
budget Hollywood movie director.
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David's background having
basically been in television.
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- I saw a short film he'd done
called When I Was a Girl.
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This was probably his first film
to appear on TV.
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- In fact, he had only directed a
handful of low-budget projects,
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including
The Tichborne Claimant,
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a mystery set
in the 19th century,
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as well as
The Girl in the Cafe,
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a love story starring
Bill Nighy,
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which went on to win
multiple Emmys in 2005.
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- I feel David was brought in
because of his personality--
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quiet, gentle,
very interesting, and very warm.
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- He has all the qualities,
in a way, wrapped up,
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that they've got some of
in all the other filmmakers
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that they'd used before.
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- They wanted someone
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that's gonna bring
some new ideas to the franchise,
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but also somebody who was quite
fresh-faced in the industry,
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who would see this
as a new challenge.
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- David brings a nature
that's just in him,
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and I was blown away just at
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how he was able to bring
an ensemble cast together.
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- But almost immediately,
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David Yates discovered
the unique complications
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of adapting a series
that was still being written.
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- Kreacher lives to serve
the noble house of Black.
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The director was
not going to include Kreacher
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in the fifth movie.
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- Kreacher!
That's enough of your bile.
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- Prat.
- Yates would have got his way,
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and Kreacher's death warrant
would have been signed.
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- Poor Kreacher.
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- But for a problem almost
no other franchise had faced.
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- Because the books were
still being written,
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the producers had no idea
which characters were gonna
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come and go
in the upcoming films.
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- The films had to adapt
the books,
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but somehow stay faithful
to a story arc
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that was still
under construction.
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- And because book seven
had not been out yet,
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JK had to say,
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"No, you're gonna have
a hard time with movie seven
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if you take out Kreacher."
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- So Kreacher got a stay
of execution,
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due to his role in Rowling's
upcoming seventh book.
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David Yates had learned
no Harry Potter director enjoys
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complete control over the story.
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- I think he really mined
into the material,
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he really started
sought to create
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a strong relationship with JK.
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And I think his respect
for the material
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and his dedication to digging
out within the characters,
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what these fantastic events
could actually mean
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to them personally.
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- David Yates had
jumped in the deep end.
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But he'd be swimming
in a large pool of talent,
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because the Potter franchise
had never been short
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of respected British actors.
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- You've got
the cream of the crop
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coming in to play
these adult characters.
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- And joining the cast would be
one of the all-time greats--
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Helena Bonham Carter.
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- Helena Bonham Carter
as Bellatrix Lestrange,
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just the essence of pure evil.
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-
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- It seemed
The Order of the Phoenix
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was oozing pure evil.
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But arguably,
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the most horrific character
in this movie
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was more subdued pure evil.
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- Imelda Staunton scared the crap
out of me as Dolores Umbridge.
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- And Dolores Umbridge's
most terrifying quirk...
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- Sit.
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- Her room with all the cats,
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when she goes--
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-
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- ...was worse
than a noseless face.
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-
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- It's horrifying.
-
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- I hated her.
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- All my scenes with Imelda,
she was great fun to work with.
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If you're gonna say Filch was
in love, it was with Imelda.
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- Also returning
after time away
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was Hogwarts' head boy.
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- It was a surprise,
if I'm honest,
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because if we could have
done without Percy
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for Goblet of Fire,
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we could absolutely do
without Percy going forwards.
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You know, he becomes superfluous
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to the main storyline
pretty much
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for the rest of the book series,
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so I was pleasantly surprised
to be back.
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I think it was two years
between Azkaban
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and Order of the Phoenix,
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and I got to adventure,
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I'd got to play and I'd got to
sort of try out being an actor
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in something other
than Harry Potter,
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so it was nice to come back
with a bit more experience
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of the real world.
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- As for the core cast,
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Warner narrowly avoided
a meltdown at the core
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of the production.
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- Emma Watson almost quit
after movie four.
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- There was a rumor going around
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that they were gonna
replace Emma
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because she was being difficult.
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- Emma Watson was considering
leaving the franchise.
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Even though she
and Rupert and Dan
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were all in the spotlight
as a sort of trio,
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she was the only female,
and the fans
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reacted differently
to the men versus the women.
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And it put a lot of pressure
on her,
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and she felt very alone
at that time.
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- I do empathize with Emma a bit.
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You know, as a young woman,
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the pressures of growing up
in front of a camera
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and all that that comes
with as a woman,
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obviously, she felt that
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more acutely than the
young boys with the press and,
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you know, what we used to do
in society back then.
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- It was stressful.
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She could not go anywhere
without people hounding her.
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She had no privacy.
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- So she did seriously
consider leaving the franchise,
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and she didn't, in the end,
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and I think we're all
grateful for that.
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But that could have
changed everything.
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- In the end,
it looked like merely
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a case of teenage rebellion,
which was becoming a theme
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as the whole cast returned,
including Emma.
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- I mean, the kids grew up, you
know, you caught them smoking.
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You know, it's life.
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- Others speculated a
teenage crush had actually
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saved the day for Warner's.
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- Emma Watson had a crush
on Tom Felton,
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and they became really close
on set.
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- Emma made him
a Valentine's Day card
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and sent it to him anonymously.
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And then everybody told him
that it was me and it wasn't me,
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but I obviously was, like,
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I'm not gonna out Emma
if she's not gonna say it's her.
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- Until now. Sorry, Emma.
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- And I think one
of the biggest reasons
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why she stayed
is because of Tom.
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- Now a cast of grown-ups...
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- I'm still calling them kids.
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- ... Harry Potter could finally
become a grown-up franchise.
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- As the kids reached
their late teens,
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as they were at this point,
really,
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they were at a point
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where they could understand
and react to a director
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who was directing actors.
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- In Yates, Emma,
Rupert and Daniel had a director
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that could help them
spread their wings.
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- He was very much
a kind of actors' director.
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- He knows what to say
to an actor
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to put them in the right place
to get the best performance.
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- There was just one thing.
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- He'd never done anything
with visual effects before.
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- Fortunately, David Yates
had faithful support
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in visual effects supervisor,
Tim Burke,
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and he had done a lot
with visual effects.
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- David's background,
being a Northerner like me,
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I felt bit of
a kindred spirit,
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so I built quite
a strong relationship with him.
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It was the first time I'd been
allowed to supervise on my own,
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'cause I was co-supervising
on the third film.
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So for me that was
a nice, big step up as well.
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- But the real step up
was in visual effects.
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-
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- David was very keen
to make the magic grounded.
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- Because in 2007,
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"grounded" wasn't exactly
what audiences were demanding.
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- It's gotta be better
than it was before.
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It's gotta be bigger
than it was before.
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We've gotta be able to
do something
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that we've never done before.
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- The Order of the Phoenix
would need a new order
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of special effects.
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- What do you mean?
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- Push the envelope to the degree
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they wanted to do to
create that wow factor.
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- And yet, all this now had
to come in cheaper than before.
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There was only one way
to do more for less.
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- Expecto Patronum!
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It was now time
for the wizards with the wands
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to fully embrace the wizards
with the mouse.
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- David Yates was leaving more
to CGI effects.
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- Moving away from anything
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that was deemed to
not work as a practical effect.
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- And there might be
no going back.
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- You are hereby expelled.
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- They needed to go to that
cutting edge of technology.
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- Meaning big changes
for some of Harry Potter's
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most faithful servants.
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- In my world,
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that probably meant
we had less to do.
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- With a new story
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and a new director
for Harry Potter's fifth film,
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nothing about directing
a blockbuster
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was second nature to
David Yates,
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not even a second unit.
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- David, I don't think,
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had worked with
a second unit before.
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So he needed to have
confidence in the person
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who was gonna direct
his second unit,
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who would really work and
understand the way he worked.
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- Now without the experience
of stalwart, Peter MacDonald.
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- I know Peter would
have done a fantastic job.
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- I wasn't invited.
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- The director's unique approach
was a spanner
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in the production's works.
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- It was difficult,
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because David Yates had
control over everything.
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Whatever we did had to
be videotaped,
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taken back to him
for his approval.
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It was a bit frustrating.
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- David Yates was loud and clear
with his directing style--
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that is, if you could hear
what he was saying.
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- The one thing that a lot
of people say about David
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is he speaks very softly.
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- You have to listen to him very
hard when he explains stuff,
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you know, and you might have
to ask him a couple of times.
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- He works so quietly.
- What did he say?
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- While cast and crew
listened closely to David,
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he also listened carefully
to them.
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- David's process was
very collaborative.
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His initial reaction would be to
say, well, how would you do it?
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- It was a new approach
best summed up
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by one
increasingly uttered word--
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- Digital.
- Digital.
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- Digital.
- Purely digital.
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- Well, it wasn't all digital,
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but David Yates was
not going to look a gift horse,
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or a gift thestral, in the beak.
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- What is it?
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- David saw these tools and
knew what they were capable of,
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and knew how this was going
to get him the look and feel
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if he needed to portray
the drama in a credible way,
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and have them experience
and believe what they're seeing.
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- You know,
the thestrals on the fifth film,
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there's no way
we'd attempt to build those.
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They would always
have to be digital.
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- But creature creator
extraordinaire Nick Dudman
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still had a gap to bridge
from the mind to the model,
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especially with
these friendly fellows.
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- I can see them too.
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- They were, you know,
a piece of concept art,
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and we had to turn it
into a model,
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so we had a lighting
reference piece
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that could be taken out
on location and could be used.
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- For practical pioneers
like Nick,
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the question he once asked...
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- Will it be digital?
Will it be us, you know?
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- ...had a much different answer
than it used to.
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- Digital, digital,
they're completely digital.
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- So the rule became, you know,
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if you want anything dynamic to
it, then we'll do it digitally.
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- In the war between
practical and CG...
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- CGI was taking over.
355
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- ...there's one clear winner.
356
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- Computer graphics is
a weapon in your armory
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to sort of say, well, I'm gonna
build this part of the set,
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I'm gonna put a blue screen
at this end,
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and then
the visual effect's gonna
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make it three times as big.
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- Which would make
the Ministry of Magic
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very big indeed.
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- The Ministry of Magic set is,
hands-down,
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my favorite of all of the sets.
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Utterly breathtaking.
366
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- The Ministry of Magic
was one of the biggest
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and most impressive sets
that we built.
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It took over, you know,
a huge stage at Leavesden.
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- You know, you had a lot
of people running around.
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I think there was a lot
of extras in that one,
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that I can remember.
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- Whenever you're
working on a film,
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you have a standby carpenter,
a standby art director.
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All of those standbys
were actually dressed up
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as characters in the movie,
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so that if they
had to get on with their jobs,
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they could
blend into the background.
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- As magical as
the Ministry of Magic appeared,
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production designer Stuart Craig
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based it on something much more
down-to-earth.
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- Stuart came up with the idea,
based on Leslie Green,
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the architect
of London tube stations.
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- And so while digital effects
didn't so much mind the gap...
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- Mind the gap.
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- ...but leap it on the back
of a thestral,
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there was another scene
that made a leap so large,
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it was a first
for the franchise.
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- Department of Mysteries.
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- The most amazing production
designer in the world,
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Stuart Craig,
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decided to design this amazing
infinite space of these shelves,
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covered with thousands
of moving, whirling,
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sort of smoky objects,
and each one had a prophecy.
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- But, there was no mystery as to
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how these prophetic spheres
would find their way
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onto the screen.
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- It became very clear that
we could never build anything
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that would be of any use.
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And what transpired...
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- Now!
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- ...was the very first full-CG
set in Harry Potter history.
402
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- So we went digital
for the whole thing,
403
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but it gave us control over all
of the events towards the end
404
00:17:01,290 --> 00:17:03,150
when the shelves get destroyed
and they collapse,
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and all the animation
involved in that.
406
00:17:05,030 --> 00:17:06,427
- But this was much more
than just
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glass spheres
falling off shelves.
408
00:17:08,550 --> 00:17:12,330
- This was the cutting edge,
absolutely the cutting edge.
409
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And this was pushing
the boundaries.
410
00:17:13,950 --> 00:17:16,307
- But there were
yet more boundaries to push
411
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in the film's
electrifying climax
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where Dumbledore faces
Voldemort in the final showdown.
413
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- We had this amazing fight
at the end.
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- Even in this
new digital playground,
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Harry Potter adhered
to David Heyman's
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original philosophy
for the series.
417
00:17:37,830 --> 00:17:39,650
- And this was the
David Heyman thing from day one.
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"We're not doing Star Wars.
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We don't wanna just see
laser beams.
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The way that we're gonna make
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this world believable
is to ground it."
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00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,320
- But David Heyman's
grounded approach was
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taken even further by
director David Yates.
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- David wants to bring
this new idea to magic
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where they could use
physical things,
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so actually use parts
of the set.
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So we designed
that whole sequence
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where he was exploding windows,
429
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and then using the shards
of glass
430
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like they were sort of
streams of daggers.
431
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So it was more rooted rather
than it just being
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flashing lights all the time.
433
00:18:18,650 --> 00:18:20,750
- But not everything was
whiz, bang,
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computer-generated
dragons and fire.
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To score the scene
and all the others,
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David Yates went old-school,
437
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and attempted to bring in
his most trusted collaborator.
438
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- I worked on every film he did,
439
00:18:34,590 --> 00:18:39,109
but I had never done, I think,
a feature film of that size.
440
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"Would you like
to come on board?"
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And I sort of fell over.
442
00:18:42,270 --> 00:18:44,167
- That made Warner Bros.
very unsure
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about this maestro
they had never heard of.
444
00:18:46,770 --> 00:18:48,970
- I had to really convince
Warner Bros.
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that I was up for the job.
446
00:18:50,430 --> 00:18:52,267
- But with the music
of John Williams
447
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still ringing out
from the first three films...
448
00:18:58,117 --> 00:19:02,077
- You can imagine what it's like
trying to follow John Williams.
449
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Quite a task.
450
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And of course, it tended
to make one a bit nervous.
451
00:19:05,260 --> 00:19:07,420
- So they gave him a little test.
452
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- All I had was a storyboard.
453
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- And he was asked to score a
scene, which sounded like this.
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- We recorded it and sent it
to Warner Bros., and job done.
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00:19:24,510 --> 00:19:26,910
- But whether they had a movie
would depend on
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settling a different kind of
score altogether.
457
00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:34,797
- Harry Potter
and the Order of the Phoenix
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was ready for
its finishing touches.
459
00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:41,593
David Yates just needed his film
to sound as good as it looked.
460
00:19:41,677 --> 00:19:44,936
- I was pretty nervous
by the time
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we got to the first recordings
at Abbey Road.
462
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- Producers knew
the man adding the music
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was a novice by the standards
of the Potterverse,
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So David Heyman was in London
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to personally sign off
on the score.
466
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- I think it was
on the second day of recording.
467
00:19:59,740 --> 00:20:02,260
- Fortunately, he already had
a reason to smile.
468
00:20:02,260 --> 00:20:05,200
- David Heyman
had just got married.
469
00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:06,060
In the moment,
470
00:20:06,060 --> 00:20:11,859
when he walked into the studio,
he said, "Hey, Nick, meet Jo."
471
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,940
- That's Joanne, AKA JK Rowling.
472
00:20:14,940 --> 00:20:17,446
And thinking this was
his new bride...
473
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- I rushed up to her
and I gave her a hug and a kiss
474
00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:25,256
and said, "Congratulations
on marrying David."
475
00:20:25,340 --> 00:20:27,677
"I didn't marry David.
476
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I'm married
to someone else."
477
00:20:29,780 --> 00:20:30,736
- So was David.
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00:20:30,820 --> 00:20:33,673
He was happy with the score
Nicholas had now finished.
479
00:20:33,756 --> 00:20:36,877
The Order of the Phoenix was
officially ready for theaters.
480
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:38,580
- When the film came out...
481
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Harry and the Order
of the Phoenix.
482
00:20:44,020 --> 00:20:45,859
- ...I was probably
on some kind of
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00:20:45,859 --> 00:20:49,276
strange, hallucinogenic
Potter drug.
484
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,297
- Harry Potter
and the Order of the Phoenix
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00:20:51,380 --> 00:20:53,720
premiered on July 11th, 2007.
486
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:54,520
- Emma!
487
00:20:54,521 --> 00:20:56,525
- What David did
with the film is amazing.
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We made one of the best films.
489
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- But had
the most digital film to date
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lost some of Potter's magic?
491
00:21:02,300 --> 00:21:06,119
- It's not my favorite.
The whimsy had gone.
492
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:10,933
This was very much
almost like kitchen sink drama.
493
00:21:11,016 --> 00:21:13,215
It was, like, everything's
got to be hyper-real,
494
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and I felt that they'd lost
something of the magic of it.
495
00:21:19,470 --> 00:21:21,923
- And yet,
if some of the magic had gone,
496
00:21:22,006 --> 00:21:24,786
audiences didn't seem to mind.
497
00:21:24,869 --> 00:21:27,661
The Order of the Phoenix
soared at the box office,
498
00:21:27,744 --> 00:21:30,784
grossing almost $940 million
worldwide.
499
00:21:30,867 --> 00:21:32,327
- David!
500
00:21:32,790 --> 00:21:34,530
- David Yates, in a way,
501
00:21:34,530 --> 00:21:37,667
becomes the most important
director in the history
502
00:21:37,750 --> 00:21:38,686
of the series,
503
00:21:38,770 --> 00:21:41,307
because I think they
finally find someone
504
00:21:41,390 --> 00:21:45,263
who can embody the Britishness
of the franchise,
505
00:21:45,347 --> 00:21:48,087
but he has a technical facility,
506
00:21:48,170 --> 00:21:52,747
he's incredibly
energetic and focused.
507
00:21:52,750 --> 00:21:55,890
- And David Yates's enthusiastic
energy soon turned into
508
00:21:55,890 --> 00:21:58,383
a relaxing exhale
for the studio.
509
00:21:58,465 --> 00:22:02,226
Yates was immediately signed
on to direct the next film.
510
00:22:02,310 --> 00:22:04,130
- They obviously liked
the way he works.
511
00:22:04,130 --> 00:22:06,034
- He'd gone from
one modest feature
512
00:22:06,070 --> 00:22:09,609
to the world's hottest franchise
in a single film.
513
00:22:09,609 --> 00:22:13,030
- The machine began to run
with such precision
514
00:22:13,030 --> 00:22:15,770
and also with such confidence
under David Yates,
515
00:22:15,853 --> 00:22:18,553
who really understood where he
was going for all those books.
516
00:22:18,554 --> 00:22:19,973
At that time,
517
00:22:19,974 --> 00:22:21,710
the studio had made the
commitment for the whole series,
518
00:22:21,710 --> 00:22:23,714
and so the entire franchise
wasn't riding on
519
00:22:23,740 --> 00:22:26,464
one movie at that time.
520
00:22:26,547 --> 00:22:29,607
We began to see the benefits
of the continuous production.
521
00:22:29,690 --> 00:22:32,226
- So you didn't have to reinvent
the wheel,
522
00:22:32,310 --> 00:22:34,330
you know, you just carried on
from where you'd been before.
523
00:22:34,330 --> 00:22:39,446
- Just felt like that team now
was gonna stay together.
524
00:22:39,530 --> 00:22:41,630
- While Warner's looked
ahead to their sixth film,
525
00:22:41,630 --> 00:22:43,946
Harry Potter
and the Half-Blood Prince,
526
00:22:44,030 --> 00:22:46,407
a major landmark
was suddenly upon Harry Potter
527
00:22:46,490 --> 00:22:48,525
and his legions of fans.
528
00:22:48,686 --> 00:22:50,647
The end was nigh.
529
00:22:50,730 --> 00:22:52,390
- It was ten days, of course,
530
00:22:52,390 --> 00:22:54,193
between the release of the film
531
00:22:54,250 --> 00:22:56,807
and the release
of the final book.
532
00:22:56,890 --> 00:22:59,530
- The final installment, Harry
Potter and the Deathly Hallows,
533
00:22:59,530 --> 00:23:02,650
was released July 21st of 2007,
534
00:23:02,650 --> 00:23:05,890
marking the end of a
20-year odyssey for JK Rowling.
535
00:23:05,890 --> 00:23:09,865
- There was a great deal
of anticipation and excitement.
536
00:23:09,948 --> 00:23:12,248
- Everyone got very excited
and thought I was hinting that
537
00:23:12,250 --> 00:23:14,090
I was writing another one,
and I'm not.
538
00:23:14,090 --> 00:23:17,609
- But there was also a real kind
of sense of sadness as well.
539
00:23:17,609 --> 00:23:20,470
It was, like, "Oh,
she's not gonna write any more?
540
00:23:20,470 --> 00:23:22,350
Really not gonna write
any more?"
541
00:23:22,350 --> 00:23:26,630
- It almost felt jarring to know
that we had these movies coming,
542
00:23:26,630 --> 00:23:29,487
but that it was gonna be
over for us
543
00:23:29,570 --> 00:23:31,782
on the book side of things.
544
00:23:31,867 --> 00:23:35,347
- Opening the very last Harry
Potter book, turning each page,
545
00:23:35,430 --> 00:23:36,832
not wanting it to end.
546
00:23:36,910 --> 00:23:39,147
But at the same time,
547
00:23:39,190 --> 00:23:42,090
desperately wanting to know
how it ends.
548
00:23:42,090 --> 00:23:44,390
- So I had to read the book
as quickly as possible,
549
00:23:44,390 --> 00:23:46,547
and I sat
and I read it in one sitting,
550
00:23:46,630 --> 00:23:48,670
the whole thing,
in about 14 hours.
551
00:23:48,753 --> 00:23:50,292
I just bombed through it.
552
00:23:50,330 --> 00:23:53,407
I remember when I read it, you
know, you sit back and you go,
553
00:23:53,490 --> 00:23:56,359
"Oh, my god,
so that's what it's about,
554
00:23:56,430 --> 00:23:58,730
and that's what's gonna
happen to that person
555
00:23:58,730 --> 00:24:00,350
and that person
and that person."
556
00:24:00,350 --> 00:24:02,352
- But the end of
the story was far from
557
00:24:02,430 --> 00:24:04,907
the end of the road
for David Heyman and Warner's.
558
00:24:04,990 --> 00:24:06,230
- Even though we were sad,
559
00:24:06,230 --> 00:24:08,207
thinking,
this is the end of an era,
560
00:24:08,290 --> 00:24:09,710
which, of course, it was,
561
00:24:09,710 --> 00:24:13,885
it wasn't
the end of that legacy.
562
00:24:13,950 --> 00:24:15,950
- Right.
The movies were far from done.
563
00:24:15,950 --> 00:24:17,587
Harry Potter
and the Order of the Phoenix
564
00:24:17,590 --> 00:24:19,786
had barely spooled out
the projectors
565
00:24:19,869 --> 00:24:22,504
when the production team
rolled into movie six,
566
00:24:22,587 --> 00:24:23,539
The Half-Blood Prince.
567
00:24:23,622 --> 00:24:24,726
- That was fun.
568
00:24:24,810 --> 00:24:29,226
- Probably four month, five month
break, and then we went back.
569
00:24:29,310 --> 00:24:30,766
- For the seasoned crew,
570
00:24:30,850 --> 00:24:33,266
Harry Potter had gone
from a one-off meal ticket...
571
00:24:33,350 --> 00:24:34,550
- When we worked
on the first film,
572
00:24:34,550 --> 00:24:37,827
there was no certainty that we
would film the second book.
573
00:24:37,910 --> 00:24:40,367
- ...to a long and lucrative
lunch.
574
00:24:40,450 --> 00:24:43,170
- By the time we got to
kind of films four and five,
575
00:24:43,170 --> 00:24:45,010
it's, like,
"Well, this is pretty cool."
576
00:24:45,010 --> 00:24:46,550
- And following another
box office hit
577
00:24:46,550 --> 00:24:48,090
in The Order of the Phoenix,
578
00:24:48,090 --> 00:24:51,470
no one wanted to end up working
on the first Harry Potter bomb.
579
00:24:51,530 --> 00:24:54,287
- They're expected
to produce better than
580
00:24:54,369 --> 00:24:55,986
what they've done before.
581
00:24:56,070 --> 00:24:58,490
- Harry Potter's original
screenwriter, Steve Kloves,
582
00:24:58,490 --> 00:25:00,686
was back to script.
583
00:25:00,770 --> 00:25:02,750
With Tim Burke back
in charge of visual effects,
584
00:25:02,750 --> 00:25:04,964
and with David Yates
returning to direct,
585
00:25:05,047 --> 00:25:06,647
everything was in place.
586
00:25:06,730 --> 00:25:10,730
- That just gave efficiencies
better and cheaper as well.
587
00:25:10,790 --> 00:25:14,627
- It's almost like that
growing pains film, you know,
588
00:25:14,710 --> 00:25:15,510
in that sense,
589
00:25:15,510 --> 00:25:17,867
between, oh,
we've got to a certain point,
590
00:25:17,950 --> 00:25:20,647
and now we've gotta bridge that
591
00:25:20,730 --> 00:25:25,250
before we go into
the big, big, big finale.
592
00:25:25,250 --> 00:25:27,107
- Finally, after several movies,
593
00:25:27,190 --> 00:25:29,067
it looked like the
Harry Potter sausage factory
594
00:25:29,150 --> 00:25:30,970
was running at full speed.
595
00:25:30,970 --> 00:25:36,015
However, there was
one minor snag, shall we say?
596
00:25:36,380 --> 00:25:38,680
- I mean, obviously,
Dan went off to do Equus.
597
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,516
- I mean, he's got to
be allowed to act in other ways.
598
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,337
- Suddenly,
the man who was the boy
599
00:25:44,420 --> 00:25:47,194
who was Harry Potter
was on the West End stage.
600
00:25:47,220 --> 00:25:48,476
- Equus is a play.
601
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,260
- Proving he was definitely
no longer a boy.
602
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:52,837
- There is nudity.
603
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,720
- And I just thought,
well, if he's gonna do that,
604
00:25:55,803 --> 00:25:56,703
he's gonna do that.
605
00:25:56,780 --> 00:25:59,157
- Daniel Radcliffe showed
there was much more to him
606
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:00,557
than Harry Potter.
607
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,117
- He's a very brave actor,
and I take my hat off to him.
608
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,240
- After taking much more
than his hat off in Equus,
609
00:26:07,323 --> 00:26:08,863
it was clear Daniel
and his costars
610
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,856
wanted to push
their own boundaries.
611
00:26:10,900 --> 00:26:13,137
But that was pushing
the production, too.
612
00:26:13,180 --> 00:26:15,560
- You better hurry before
they age out of this entirely
613
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,617
and we no longer believe
they could be 17 years old.
614
00:26:18,700 --> 00:26:23,979
- For Harry Potter,
the clock was ticking.
615
00:26:24,946 --> 00:26:28,986
Harry Potter was growing up,
and there was no hiding it.
616
00:26:29,070 --> 00:26:31,330
- He was a growing lad, you know,
617
00:26:31,330 --> 00:26:34,867
and which of us
weren't at one time?
618
00:26:34,950 --> 00:26:38,010
- Fame and money are a
big draw and they're a lure in,
619
00:26:38,010 --> 00:26:39,530
and not just for adults.
620
00:26:39,530 --> 00:26:43,350
- Daniel Radcliffe had
fame and money, and soon...
621
00:26:43,350 --> 00:26:48,246
- He had a drinking problem,
and was coming to the set drunk.
622
00:26:48,330 --> 00:26:50,570
He has been very vocal
about that
623
00:26:50,570 --> 00:26:52,946
and how much of a mess
he was around that time.
624
00:26:53,030 --> 00:26:59,690
- His parents knew the pitfalls
of being a child actor.
625
00:26:59,690 --> 00:27:03,663
It's fun,
but it's a really hard life.
626
00:27:03,746 --> 00:27:08,086
Not that many kids
survive unscathed.
627
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,292
- While Daniel struggled with
adult potions and their effects,
628
00:27:11,377 --> 00:27:13,776
Emma Watson was trying
to broaden her horizons
629
00:27:13,859 --> 00:27:16,196
in a more conventional way.
630
00:27:16,260 --> 00:27:19,317
- She wanted to go to school,
She wanted to have an education.
631
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,740
- She was doing her A-levels
or her GCSEs or something.
632
00:27:22,740 --> 00:27:27,119
They wanted to give her kind of
maximum amount of time to study.
633
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,633
And the way the schedule was,
634
00:27:29,715 --> 00:27:31,936
if they could get away
with a double,
635
00:27:32,020 --> 00:27:36,297
they would prefer to buy Emma
as much time as they could.
636
00:27:36,380 --> 00:27:38,540
- And for Emma,
that made all the difference.
637
00:27:38,623 --> 00:27:40,036
- Warner Bros. have been
638
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:45,820
so supportive of me
continuing with school.
639
00:27:45,820 --> 00:27:49,313
- Study hard,
and you will be rewarded.
640
00:27:49,397 --> 00:27:52,137
- While the leading trio began
to look outside their cozy nest,
641
00:27:52,220 --> 00:27:54,500
another core cast member
was finally beginning
642
00:27:54,500 --> 00:27:57,973
to spread his wings with a
performance years in the making.
643
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,847
- We'll see just who's laughing
in the end.
644
00:28:00,930 --> 00:28:02,946
- Tom Felton's Malfoy
would finally have
645
00:28:03,030 --> 00:28:04,766
his defining moments.
646
00:28:04,850 --> 00:28:08,186
- I love that Tom Felton
kind of matured as an actor
647
00:28:08,270 --> 00:28:09,407
in Half-Blood Prince.
648
00:28:09,490 --> 00:28:10,470
It's like, the first movie
649
00:28:10,470 --> 00:28:12,627
where we spend time
with Draco Malfoy
650
00:28:12,710 --> 00:28:15,282
and we see that he's changing.
651
00:28:15,367 --> 00:28:18,327
He's getting abused
and he's afraid.
652
00:28:18,410 --> 00:28:22,577
- I have to kill you.
Or he's gonna kill me.
653
00:28:22,660 --> 00:28:23,460
- He's scared,
654
00:28:23,460 --> 00:28:26,700
and we see the human side
of Draco in that movie,
655
00:28:26,701 --> 00:28:28,057
and I think Tom Felton just
656
00:28:28,140 --> 00:28:29,700
knocks it out of the park
with that.
657
00:28:29,700 --> 00:28:33,260
- It's real easy to play smarmy
and the little jerk kid.
658
00:28:33,260 --> 00:28:36,523
- Red hair,
and a hand-me-down robe?
659
00:28:36,606 --> 00:28:38,637
You must be a Weasley.
660
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,380
But when you're dealing
with the inner stuff
661
00:28:40,380 --> 00:28:43,897
that's starting to bubble up,
that takes a more deft hand.
662
00:28:43,980 --> 00:28:45,620
- While The Half-Blood Prince
told the story
663
00:28:45,620 --> 00:28:47,937
of Voldemort's ongoing battle
with the wizarding world
664
00:28:48,020 --> 00:28:51,114
and took JK Rowling's
characters deeper,
665
00:28:51,197 --> 00:28:54,577
the crew went deeper with
an old Harry Potter favorite.
666
00:28:54,660 --> 00:28:55,460
- Now then, remember,
667
00:28:55,460 --> 00:28:56,877
just because you made
the team last year
668
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,737
does not guarantee you
a spot this year.
669
00:28:58,820 --> 00:29:02,094
- Every time we done
Quidditch, on the next film,
670
00:29:02,177 --> 00:29:03,837
it got better and better.
671
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,257
- Digital effects weren't
the only improvements.
672
00:29:06,340 --> 00:29:08,611
New practical rigs meant
the stunt designers could
673
00:29:08,660 --> 00:29:09,900
make a broomstick do things
674
00:29:09,900 --> 00:29:12,613
a younger Harry Potter
could only dream of.
675
00:29:12,697 --> 00:29:17,237
- Greg had said, they want
to do multiple crashes,
676
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:23,310
all different types, all
different ways, into each other.
677
00:29:23,310 --> 00:29:26,190
So we're just gonna have a
two-week brainstorming session,
678
00:29:26,190 --> 00:29:27,427
rehearsing session.
679
00:29:27,510 --> 00:29:28,883
Are you up for that?
680
00:29:28,967 --> 00:29:30,267
Yeah, course.
681
00:29:30,350 --> 00:29:34,530
- So we, as a stunt department,
were always looking to,
682
00:29:34,530 --> 00:29:38,605
you know, incorporate
new ways of telling the story.
683
00:29:38,610 --> 00:29:41,467
- But as the story demanded
more action,
684
00:29:41,550 --> 00:29:45,023
more was demanded of the stunt
team, which meant more risk.
685
00:29:45,106 --> 00:29:47,706
- We don't know exactly
how it's gonna go,
686
00:29:47,770 --> 00:29:49,550
so we're gonna try
a few different techniques.
687
00:29:49,550 --> 00:29:51,990
- It's usually what they call
a matrix tree.
688
00:29:51,990 --> 00:29:54,067
You know, we could spin
'em over and spin 'em round
689
00:29:54,150 --> 00:29:55,950
and, you know,
tumble and everything.
690
00:29:55,950 --> 00:29:58,020
So and then we had
'em on the Russian Swing
691
00:29:58,090 --> 00:30:01,203
where we actually
launched 'em through the air.
692
00:30:01,286 --> 00:30:02,827
- What's the Russian Swing?
693
00:30:02,910 --> 00:30:05,427
Well, it's a contraption
with steel arms
694
00:30:05,510 --> 00:30:07,670
you'd usually find in a circus.
695
00:30:07,670 --> 00:30:10,810
- And it was huge.
It was pretty dangerous.
696
00:30:10,890 --> 00:30:14,190
- And it could make stunt work
more like Russian Roulette.
697
00:30:14,190 --> 00:30:16,683
- Yeah, Russian Swing,
my favorite piece of equipment.
698
00:30:16,767 --> 00:30:18,827
- We were flying on
this Russian Swing.
699
00:30:18,910 --> 00:30:22,251
I mean, we were getting up
into the steels of the roof.
700
00:30:22,330 --> 00:30:24,210
- Well, we decided to
fly through the air
701
00:30:24,210 --> 00:30:26,147
and smash each other in midair.
702
00:30:26,150 --> 00:30:28,870
- We had the one,
two Russian Swings,
703
00:30:28,870 --> 00:30:30,170
one opposing the other.
704
00:30:30,170 --> 00:30:33,427
So one person would
fly off the side swing,
705
00:30:33,510 --> 00:30:34,987
and the person
going down the line directly
706
00:30:35,070 --> 00:30:36,310
would smash into them.
707
00:30:36,310 --> 00:30:37,913
Me and Tony hitting each other,
708
00:30:37,996 --> 00:30:40,616
landing in a big bed
of crash mats.
709
00:30:40,650 --> 00:30:42,587
- Originally an amateur game
for kids,
710
00:30:42,650 --> 00:30:44,709
Quidditch had basically
turned professional,
711
00:30:44,792 --> 00:30:46,027
even in the Muggle world.
712
00:30:46,110 --> 00:30:47,187
- This is NYU footage.
713
00:30:47,270 --> 00:30:50,604
We've adapted the score
to work for our own limitations.
714
00:30:50,687 --> 00:30:52,267
- With Muggles playing Quidditch,
715
00:30:52,350 --> 00:30:55,607
it was time for the wizards
to up their game.
716
00:30:55,690 --> 00:30:58,796
- We just wanted it hard, fast,
over the top.
717
00:30:58,879 --> 00:31:00,527
It was just insane.
718
00:31:00,610 --> 00:31:03,047
- But even the craziest stunts
could not deliver
719
00:31:03,070 --> 00:31:05,770
what visual effects needed
for Quidditch 2.0.
720
00:31:05,830 --> 00:31:08,887
- What I really wanted to achieve
on the sixth film was
721
00:31:08,970 --> 00:31:14,280
to really make the sequence much
more sort of fluid and exciting.
722
00:31:14,310 --> 00:31:16,190
- Like many classic set pieces,
723
00:31:16,190 --> 00:31:20,671
the inspiration for this high
velocity battle came from above,
724
00:31:20,755 --> 00:31:24,797
thanks to Tom Cruise's airborne
antics in the OG Top Gun.
725
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,500
- Being in the air
with the aircraft
726
00:31:26,500 --> 00:31:30,557
and being able to see the way
the planes bank and roll,
727
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:31,740
you know,
and we wanted to bring that
728
00:31:31,740 --> 00:31:33,897
to essentially what
you're doing on the broomstick
729
00:31:33,980 --> 00:31:35,400
when you're playing Quidditch.
730
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,797
You know, you're flying
and where you're rolling
731
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,883
and banking
to go around corners.
732
00:31:40,966 --> 00:31:43,386
- Just as Dambusters had been
a template for Star Wars ...
733
00:31:43,469 --> 00:31:45,400
- Gold Five, we'll cover for you.
734
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,270
- ...which became a template
for Top Gun.
735
00:31:47,353 --> 00:31:48,777
- Watch out, watch out!
736
00:31:48,860 --> 00:31:50,997
- So Harry Potter proved
a longstanding principle
737
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,517
of action sequences.
738
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,897
- Because if you can
film something
739
00:31:54,980 --> 00:31:58,521
as you would film it for real,
then it becomes more believable.
740
00:31:58,580 --> 00:32:01,385
You know, if you were really
filming a Quidditch match,
741
00:32:01,468 --> 00:32:03,888
you would want to be
flying with the players.
742
00:32:03,940 --> 00:32:06,680
So I tried to bring
in some rules of filming
743
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,200
that made it more believable.
744
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,440
- But making the Potterverse
believable was
745
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,477
having less and less
to do with the real world
746
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,520
and the crew working in it.
747
00:32:15,603 --> 00:32:18,383
- The amount of people
they employ to do that,
748
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,300
and then all of a sudden,
that's going,
749
00:32:20,300 --> 00:32:23,517
because they can now do that
in an office
750
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,800
by tweaking a few switches,
and I think it just loses that,
751
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,440
you know, authenticity
about making a film.
752
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,678
- And that meant
this production was about
753
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,658
to lose much more
than authenticity.
754
00:32:33,660 --> 00:32:38,840
- There's some fantastic
craftsmen put out of work.
755
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,280
- As production on
The Half-Blood Prince
756
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,597
got underway,
we were introduced to
757
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:43,580
some scary new characters.
758
00:32:43,580 --> 00:32:46,086
- So we had Fenrir Greyback.
759
00:32:46,220 --> 00:32:47,234
Oh, he's a werewolf.
760
00:32:47,317 --> 00:32:48,397
-
761
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,617
- We did this
really entertaining makeup
762
00:32:50,700 --> 00:32:52,200
where it does appear
like his hair
763
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:56,077
is just growing out of
his skin all over.
764
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,377
- Prosthetics were back,
765
00:32:57,460 --> 00:32:58,960
proving the simplest alchemy
766
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,297
could still leave
an indelible mark.
767
00:33:01,380 --> 00:33:04,720
- We did some prosthetics for
Malfoy's sectumsempra thing.
768
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,180
- Sectumsempra!
-
769
00:33:08,060 --> 00:33:09,720
- It was me
just behind camera,
770
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,780
catching Tom Felton
on a crash mat.
771
00:33:11,780 --> 00:33:15,357
So yeah, we were constantly
trying to push the boundaries
772
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:20,900
and be able to tell the story of
this spell being more serious.
773
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,580
And not just some random Latin.
774
00:33:23,580 --> 00:33:26,787
This was possibly Harry's
most visceral spell.
775
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,667
He would use his wand to draw
blood for the first time.
776
00:33:30,750 --> 00:33:33,570
- That's quite a pretty full-on
spell to cast,
777
00:33:33,570 --> 00:33:36,747
and you know, Harry only
knows the gravity of that spell
778
00:33:36,830 --> 00:33:39,368
when he sees Malfoy leaking
blood all over the floor.
779
00:33:39,390 --> 00:33:41,007
- Originally,
his chest was gonna be open,
780
00:33:41,090 --> 00:33:42,350
the shirt was gonna be open,
781
00:33:42,350 --> 00:33:46,087
and you could see the kind of
wand lines across here
782
00:33:46,170 --> 00:33:47,247
that were bleeding.
783
00:33:47,330 --> 00:33:51,367
- But the question was,
how bloody is too bloody?
784
00:33:51,450 --> 00:33:53,030
- And then I think
they thought fairly quickly,
785
00:33:53,030 --> 00:33:55,387
that's just too graphic.
786
00:33:55,470 --> 00:33:57,330
- For more subtle gore
befitting Warner's
787
00:33:57,330 --> 00:33:59,391
all-important PG certificate,
788
00:33:59,474 --> 00:34:02,647
Paul and his team
needed only costume and makeup.
789
00:34:02,730 --> 00:34:04,290
- There were a few tests
we had to do with that
790
00:34:04,290 --> 00:34:07,667
to get the fabric damp,
just slightly damp,
791
00:34:07,750 --> 00:34:09,207
so that when
it started bleeding,
792
00:34:09,290 --> 00:34:10,290
when the blood came through,
793
00:34:10,290 --> 00:34:14,165
it did that nice kind of
pooling into the shirt.
794
00:34:14,276 --> 00:34:15,736
- Lumos maxima!
795
00:34:16,270 --> 00:34:19,544
- As the line between digital
and practical blurred further,
796
00:34:19,627 --> 00:34:21,187
even the crew could be tricked.
797
00:34:21,270 --> 00:34:23,674
- People that were coming out of
the water grabbing,
798
00:34:23,757 --> 00:34:26,297
they was all
Nick Dudman's people.
799
00:34:26,330 --> 00:34:28,024
- No, it wasn't.
- That was digital.
800
00:34:28,107 --> 00:34:30,227
We didn't have to do that.
801
00:34:30,310 --> 00:34:32,969
- JK Rowling's darker visions
were now routinely demanding
802
00:34:32,969 --> 00:34:35,285
more than practical
could deliver on its own.
803
00:34:35,368 --> 00:34:38,806
- In the end, they wanted
'em to be too emaciated.
804
00:34:38,890 --> 00:34:41,796
- Which was obviously
a very grim process.
805
00:34:41,870 --> 00:34:43,690
We needed to find
emaciated people,
806
00:34:43,690 --> 00:34:46,110
so we were referencing pictures
from the Holocaust,
807
00:34:46,110 --> 00:34:49,527
the concentration camps,
of how the bodies looked.
808
00:34:49,610 --> 00:34:51,850
We had to create
these digital characters
809
00:34:51,850 --> 00:34:57,194
who were way more emaciated
than a human could be.
810
00:34:57,290 --> 00:34:58,790
- And continuing
what they'd started
811
00:34:58,790 --> 00:35:02,263
in the Department of Mysteries
by creating full CG sets,
812
00:35:02,346 --> 00:35:05,507
they'd do it again here
for the film's climactic ending.
813
00:35:05,590 --> 00:35:09,797
- The cave itself was
a full CG, digital environment,
814
00:35:09,810 --> 00:35:13,050
and the little island
was built as a practical set.
815
00:35:13,050 --> 00:35:15,387
But there was no water.
It was all done dry for wet.
816
00:35:15,469 --> 00:35:17,604
- In fact, on
The Half-Blood Prince,
817
00:35:17,687 --> 00:35:19,687
dry was the new wet.
818
00:35:19,770 --> 00:35:20,670
- It's your job, Harry,
819
00:35:20,670 --> 00:35:23,306
to make sure I keep
drinking this potion.
820
00:35:23,513 --> 00:35:25,886
Production have learned the
lessons of the Goblet of Fire,
821
00:35:25,969 --> 00:35:29,442
when going underwater
almost sunk the production.
822
00:35:29,510 --> 00:35:31,286
- Never do underwater sequences.
823
00:35:31,370 --> 00:35:33,567
- This time, the only lessons
were for Tim Burke,
824
00:35:33,650 --> 00:35:34,967
and he didn't need any.
825
00:35:35,050 --> 00:35:36,469
Whether he was
summoning water...
826
00:35:36,469 --> 00:35:37,908
- We added all of the water.
827
00:35:37,930 --> 00:35:39,846
- ...or fire.
- All the light effects...
828
00:35:39,930 --> 00:35:40,850
- For Harry and Dumbledore's
829
00:35:40,850 --> 00:35:43,486
dramatic showdown
with the Inferi,
830
00:35:43,890 --> 00:35:45,728
Tim creates a firestorm
as big as
831
00:35:45,750 --> 00:35:48,390
anything described
in the book.
832
00:35:48,469 --> 00:35:51,105
- So it was a big,
complex sequence,
833
00:35:51,670 --> 00:35:52,810
but illustrating again
834
00:35:52,810 --> 00:35:57,267
how we'd really moved away
from the big sets
835
00:35:57,350 --> 00:35:58,507
being practically built,
836
00:35:58,590 --> 00:36:04,001
and we were relying on
very large CG environments.
837
00:36:04,270 --> 00:36:05,270
- As all turned to flame
838
00:36:05,270 --> 00:36:07,886
at the apocalyptic end
of Half-Blood Prince,
839
00:36:07,969 --> 00:36:10,065
Gary Tomkins'
model-building crew...
840
00:36:10,149 --> 00:36:12,286
- We built a miniature
for the Burrow.
841
00:36:12,370 --> 00:36:15,130
- ...responsible for building the
historic home of the Weasleys,
842
00:36:15,170 --> 00:36:16,930
took their cue from the story
843
00:36:16,930 --> 00:36:19,904
and decided to put
the torch to their best work.
844
00:36:19,987 --> 00:36:22,487
- Rather than rely
on digital effects for that,
845
00:36:22,570 --> 00:36:25,829
we were gonna
burn it down for real.
846
00:36:26,107 --> 00:36:30,587
So as it burnt, it would fall
and collapse realistically.
847
00:36:30,670 --> 00:36:33,850
- We then basically had
one chance to blow up.
848
00:36:33,850 --> 00:36:37,210
- So Gary and his team
weren't cutting any corners.
849
00:36:37,210 --> 00:36:39,987
- And then he
torched the whole thing.
850
00:36:40,070 --> 00:36:41,870
- And whoosh, off it went,
851
00:36:41,870 --> 00:36:45,544
and the whole thing just
shot up in the blink of an eye.
852
00:36:45,627 --> 00:36:48,187
- It took something
like five months to build
853
00:36:48,270 --> 00:36:52,330
and something like
five minutes to burn down.
854
00:36:52,743 --> 00:36:54,747
- As Gary's model went up
in flames,
855
00:36:54,830 --> 00:36:57,435
it became almost
a metaphor for the fate
856
00:36:57,450 --> 00:37:00,743
of painstakingly crafted
practical sets.
857
00:37:00,826 --> 00:37:03,487
And finally,
after all these movies,
858
00:37:03,570 --> 00:37:05,907
the majestic epicenter
of the wizarding world
859
00:37:05,989 --> 00:37:08,947
would also succumb
to inevitability.
860
00:37:09,030 --> 00:37:12,050
- We built this
tenth scale version, which,
861
00:37:12,050 --> 00:37:15,489
as I say, was absolutely huge.
862
00:37:15,489 --> 00:37:17,590
- Set builder Jose Granell
didn't know it at the time...
863
00:37:17,590 --> 00:37:20,730
- It literally went up
into the roof of the stage.
864
00:37:20,730 --> 00:37:22,810
- ...but his crowning achievement
on Harry Potter
865
00:37:22,810 --> 00:37:25,616
was set to be
practicals' last stand.
866
00:37:25,699 --> 00:37:29,675
- The model was obviously
quite complex as well.
867
00:37:29,730 --> 00:37:31,690
- The complexity would be
its undoing,
868
00:37:31,690 --> 00:37:33,667
as producers began
to acknowledge that
869
00:37:33,750 --> 00:37:34,774
the tide had turned.
870
00:37:34,790 --> 00:37:36,510
- We were relying so much
on the digital,
871
00:37:36,510 --> 00:37:38,007
and the digital's delivering,
872
00:37:38,090 --> 00:37:39,847
it's trying to deliver
a slightly different look
873
00:37:39,930 --> 00:37:42,207
that the miniature is.
874
00:37:42,290 --> 00:37:44,629
- It was time
for a defining choice.
875
00:37:44,712 --> 00:37:47,952
- We made a sort of joint
decision with the producers
876
00:37:47,969 --> 00:37:50,707
that we would invest
in totally rebuilding Hogwarts
877
00:37:50,790 --> 00:37:52,427
as a digital model.
878
00:37:52,510 --> 00:37:54,587
- It was a big choice, to say
879
00:37:54,670 --> 00:37:56,770
we're gonna
digitize the miniature.
880
00:37:56,770 --> 00:37:59,375
- Hogwarts, the very home
of Harry Potter 's magic
881
00:37:59,410 --> 00:38:03,969
through the years, had finally
given in to digital sorcery.
882
00:38:03,969 --> 00:38:07,044
- Hogwarts. What
a pathetic excuse for a school.
883
00:38:07,127 --> 00:38:09,447
- They ended up
scanning the model.
884
00:38:09,530 --> 00:38:12,727
- Jos's miniature,
that massive masterpiece,
885
00:38:12,810 --> 00:38:16,767
was about to be swallowed whole,
devoured by digital.
886
00:38:16,850 --> 00:38:18,250
- What it allowed us to do then
887
00:38:18,250 --> 00:38:21,364
is give complete freedom
to design shots.
888
00:38:21,447 --> 00:38:24,067
And that took the best part
of a year to do.
889
00:38:24,150 --> 00:38:27,467
- It was a changing of the guard
to cue the slow fade to black
890
00:38:27,550 --> 00:38:30,188
for the practical arts
of masters like Jose,
891
00:38:30,271 --> 00:38:32,611
Nick Dudman,
and John Richardson.
892
00:38:32,670 --> 00:38:37,050
- Although they might call it a
CG model for the last two films,
893
00:38:37,050 --> 00:38:41,504
the textures and the detail came
from the original miniature.
894
00:38:41,587 --> 00:38:45,346
So to me, it feels
more like a hybrid, if you like.
895
00:38:45,430 --> 00:38:47,197
- The whole way
896
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,088
that stories are presented
to an audience is mutating.
897
00:38:51,090 --> 00:38:54,886
It's changing beyond anything
we can imagine.
898
00:38:54,969 --> 00:38:57,890
It's really important
we don't lose the magic
899
00:38:57,890 --> 00:39:00,527
just to sell product,
900
00:39:00,610 --> 00:39:03,989
and that's what's
been happening.
901
00:39:04,707 --> 00:39:07,487
- The Half-Blood Prince had
one awesome responsibility
902
00:39:07,570 --> 00:39:10,090
it simply had to get right--
903
00:39:10,090 --> 00:39:12,867
negotiating the departure
of one of the franchise's
904
00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:14,987
most loved characters.
905
00:39:15,070 --> 00:39:18,770
- It was time for...
- Dumbledore's death.
906
00:39:19,270 --> 00:39:22,884
- It was always intended that
it would be done respectfully.
907
00:39:22,967 --> 00:39:26,647
- You are no assassin.
- How do you know what I am?
908
00:39:26,730 --> 00:39:28,250
I've done things
that would shock you.
909
00:39:28,250 --> 00:39:29,604
- It needed care.
910
00:39:29,687 --> 00:39:31,147
- Expelliarmus.
911
00:39:31,390 --> 00:39:33,286
- It was, after all, the end of
912
00:39:33,370 --> 00:39:35,570
a long, painful journey
for Malfoy.
913
00:39:35,570 --> 00:39:40,646
- Don't you understand?
I have to do this.
914
00:39:40,777 --> 00:39:43,056
Or he's gonna kill me.
915
00:39:43,140 --> 00:39:44,420
- It's terribly sad,
916
00:39:44,420 --> 00:39:47,417
because he's just
caught in this thing
917
00:39:47,500 --> 00:39:48,977
which he doesn't want to do.
918
00:39:49,060 --> 00:39:51,160
- Well done, Draco.
919
00:39:52,340 --> 00:39:55,820
- I really thought that Tom
Felton embodied that perfectly,
920
00:39:55,820 --> 00:39:59,760
that, like, "I still
have to put on this show,
921
00:39:59,860 --> 00:40:03,274
but inside, I'm really having
a hard time with this."
922
00:40:03,357 --> 00:40:04,937
- Harry, do as I say.
923
00:40:05,020 --> 00:40:08,076
- Dumbledore, the granddad's
going, you know? That's it.
924
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,100
- We're about to bid farewell
to possibly the series'
925
00:40:11,100 --> 00:40:12,817
most beloved character.
926
00:40:12,900 --> 00:40:14,877
Well, right, apart from Harry,
of course.
927
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,194
- Welcome to another year
at Hogwarts.
928
00:40:18,277 --> 00:40:21,897
- Dumbledore, a father figure
to Potter fans the world over,
929
00:40:21,980 --> 00:40:24,660
had come to the end
of a road originally traversed
930
00:40:24,660 --> 00:40:25,957
by Richard Harris.
931
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:27,739
- Michael Gambon, I think,
932
00:40:27,780 --> 00:40:31,096
did a very good job
in a super hard thing to do,
933
00:40:31,180 --> 00:40:34,957
to come in and take over
for Richard Harris.
934
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,040
- Quite successfully too,
I might add.
935
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,540
Most people vomit
the first time.
936
00:40:39,540 --> 00:40:40,817
- Across four films,
937
00:40:40,900 --> 00:40:43,834
Michael Gambon had remade
Dumbledore in his own image.
938
00:40:43,917 --> 00:40:45,737
- Never took it too seriously.
939
00:40:45,820 --> 00:40:48,157
Well, he took the work
seriously, but not himself.
940
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,420
- I really enjoyed the way
that Gambon played Dumbledore.
941
00:40:51,420 --> 00:40:53,660
- Now I can't imagine anyone else
playing Dumbledore,
942
00:40:53,660 --> 00:40:56,317
and I don't even know if I
could picture Richard Harris...
943
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,217
- Good evening,
Professor Dumbledore.
944
00:40:58,300 --> 00:40:59,980
- ...being able to convey
some of the things
945
00:40:59,980 --> 00:41:02,637
that Gambon was able to convey
in the later films.
946
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,747
- That was fun.
Do you mind if I use the loo?
947
00:41:06,830 --> 00:41:08,930
- No, of course.
948
00:41:10,620 --> 00:41:11,989
- Harry Potter
and the Half-Blood Prince
949
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,783
went out into the world
in July of 2009.
950
00:41:14,866 --> 00:41:16,736
- Everyone's come out
to see us again.
951
00:41:16,819 --> 00:41:17,619
It's great.
952
00:41:17,620 --> 00:41:18,739
- I mean,
New York has always been
953
00:41:18,739 --> 00:41:20,020
very, very supportive of
Harry Potter.
954
00:41:20,020 --> 00:41:23,920
- The sixth film of Harry Potter
had gone off the scale.
955
00:41:24,003 --> 00:41:25,303
- Sometimes it feels
like a lot of pressure,
956
00:41:25,303 --> 00:41:29,803
because the fans are so crazy.
- Emma, Emma, Emma!
957
00:41:29,804 --> 00:41:30,791
- And, you know,
958
00:41:30,792 --> 00:41:33,192
really raised the bar in terms
of the quality of the work,
959
00:41:33,193 --> 00:41:36,413
the storytelling, the acting,
everything.
960
00:41:36,497 --> 00:41:38,076
- Harry Potter
and the Half-Blood Prince
961
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,497
grossed $934 million worldwide,
962
00:41:41,580 --> 00:41:43,719
the biggest box office take
in the US
963
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,357
since The Sorcerer's Stone.
964
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,136
- It was huge.
965
00:41:47,219 --> 00:41:49,190
- It was a triumph
at the box office,
966
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,444
and that year,
the only film to beat it
967
00:41:51,500 --> 00:41:56,739
was James Cameron's
computer-generated epic, Avatar.
968
00:41:57,380 --> 00:41:58,920
The success
of The Half-Blood Prince
969
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,194
proved Harry Potter 's audience
had evolved with the films.
970
00:42:02,337 --> 00:42:06,717
- It's probably the least
humorous of all the movies.
971
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,140
There's very little
light and shade.
972
00:42:09,180 --> 00:42:13,219
- But it was dark, and it felt
darker than the book did.
973
00:42:13,303 --> 00:42:17,223
- It did feel like it was
the precursor to another story.
974
00:42:17,260 --> 00:42:20,560
- But now, only the end of
the story remained to be told.
975
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,617
- You knew that the next film was
coming, and when we finish that,
976
00:42:23,700 --> 00:42:24,600
it'll all be over.
977
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,297
So there was
a sort of inevitability that
978
00:42:27,380 --> 00:42:32,054
this wonderful project would,
at some point, come to an end.
979
00:42:32,060 --> 00:42:34,560
- Harry Potter was about to
reach the sharp end of the wand
980
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,636
in its final installments.
981
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,940
- Everyone had worked so hard
to get to this point
982
00:42:38,940 --> 00:42:43,294
that we really needed to
deliver on the final film.
983
00:42:43,377 --> 00:42:45,817
- The pressure was on
to finish on a high.
984
00:42:45,900 --> 00:42:49,917
- This had to be the pinnacle
of everyone's achievements
985
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,835
to get to this point.
986
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:53,120
- Reaching the pinnacle
987
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,657
would require a now-seasoned
team to call on everything
988
00:42:55,739 --> 00:42:56,910
they'd learned from years
989
00:42:56,940 --> 00:42:59,116
traveling through
the Potterverse.
990
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,297
- Certainly, the biggest and one
of the most complicated films
991
00:43:02,380 --> 00:43:04,076
to actually complete.
992
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:05,560
- But in the final film,
993
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,377
a push to satisfy a more mature
audience's appetite for action
994
00:43:09,460 --> 00:43:13,020
would come with complications
that were more permanent.
995
00:43:13,103 --> 00:43:15,223
- We were pushing the boundaries.
996
00:43:15,223 --> 00:43:17,743
- And they could hardly
have been more serious.
997
00:43:17,744 --> 00:43:19,204
-
998
00:43:19,957 --> 00:43:22,917
- I would rather not reflect on
the worst day of my life.
999
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,080
- They'll always say
there's never any risk.
1000
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,152
But of course, there is.
1001
00:43:28,235 --> 00:43:30,705
- It just changed the whole
dynamics of it, you know?
1002
00:43:30,710 --> 00:43:32,029
It was just terrible.
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