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(SIREN BLARING)
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NARRATOR:
An Evangelical preacher led
nearly a thousand followers
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from the United States
deep into the jungles
of South America.
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How about you,
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is it the best thing that
ever happened to you?
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NARRATOR: They would build
a new community,
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free of oppression
and violence.
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It was to be
their paradise on Earth.
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VERNON GOSNEY:
I wanted to leave
as soon as I got there.
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I was in an armed encampment.
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NARRATOR: But outsiders
threatened to expose
the dark side of their leader.
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We are going into Jonestown.
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And if any of your
family members
want to come home,
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then, by God,
we're gonna bring 'em home.
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(SCREAMING)
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You people gonna just...
Just leave us.
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VERNON:
They're killing everyone!
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NARRATOR: In one day,
two worlds collided
and paradise was lost.
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JIM JONES:
Know that you have never,
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never been loved so much
as I love you right now.
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(WOMAN SOBBING)
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(ALL SINGING)
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The People's Temple
was a wonderful mosaic
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of the whole spectrum
of humanity.
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It was a dream that died
on November 18th, 1978.
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The threat of mass suicide
was quite real.
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Now this morning,
there are fresh reports.
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Jones ordered a mass suicide.
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914 people were murdered
or drank Kool-Aid
laced with poison.
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MAN: A lot of the children
were crying
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and he was telling them
not to tell the children
that they were dying,
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not to tell them
it was painful
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and that people had to die
with dignity.
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NARRATOR: In November 1978,
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reporters around the world
broke the news
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that Jim Jones
and more than 900
of his followers died.
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By the late 1960s
and early '70s,
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the streets of America erupted
in violence and civil strife.
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The war in Vietnam,
civil rights marches
and political assassinations
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played out on television.
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(CLAMORING)
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OFFICER ON LOUDSPEAKER:
Everyone, disperse
immediately.
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NARRATOR:
Out of this turmoil,
thousands of Americans
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flocked to hear the sermons
of a charismatic preacher
named Jim Jones.
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A fiery order,
Jones' early speeches
were a mixture
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of socialist ideals
and Christian redemption.
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STEPHAN JONES: If there was
anything universal
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about the Temple experience
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and what it was
that drew people,
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it was on some level
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we were all wanting to belong.
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NARRATOR:
Some turn to the Temple
because they need help,
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others want to serve humanity.
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Whatever they need,
Jim Jones and his Peoples
Temple seem to have it.
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JONES: The only way
it's going to get better
is through us
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and what we can do
in the world
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and that was everything
from gradual social change
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to violent revolution
to cleaning up after
nuclear fallout.
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NARRATOR: Jim Jones
claimed special powers
to heal the sick and dying.
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Staged healings were
a popular attraction
at Temple meetings.
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(JIM JONES SPEAKING)
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A guy like my dad
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found out what
you wanted to hear and see
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and showed it to you.
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Whatever you were looking for
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or wherever you were running
from or running toward,
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Dad had an uncanny ability
to hook into that.
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It's exhilarating
and very attractive.
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Once you get hooked by that
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it's really hard
to get unhooked.
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NARRATOR:
As his popularity grew,
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Jim Jones preached
less about the bible and
more about social activism.
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He called himself a prophet,
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a savior who would
guide, protect
and watch over his followers.
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JIM: I want you
to be like I am.
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I want you to
become what I am.
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I want you to enjoy
the fearlessness that I have,
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the courage that I have,
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the compassion that I have,
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the love that I have,
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the all-encompassing
mercy that I have.
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I want you to be what I am
and something greater.
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NARRATOR: Jim Jones'
devoted followers
referred to him as Father.
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Many signed over their
paychecks, possessions,
even their homes.
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But at the height
of his power,
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a darker side of
Jim Jones emerged.
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Former Temple members
accused Jones
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of physical and sexual abuse,
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mind control
and forced druggings.
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In 1977,
as media interest grew,
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Jim Jones and hundreds
of his supporters
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left San Francisco,
California.
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They set out for Guyana,
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determined to build
a new community
in the South American country.
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In the middle of the jungle,
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150 miles from the capital
of Georgetown,
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Peoples Temple built
what was to be a socialist
paradise on Earth.
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They called it Jonestown
after their leader.
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(INAUDIBLE)
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Because of Father's example
here in Guyana,
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we are building equipment
and doing things
to feed hungry people
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and set up a little town,
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an actual community
or a country of our own
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where we can live
the way we like to live
with our own lifestyle.
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Not to be interfered
from people from the outside
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and to help starving
masses of the world.
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NARRATOR:
As the allegations in
the United States intensified,
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Temple members continued to
flock to the remote outpost.
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Labeling the attacks
as a government conspiracy
to topple Peoples Temple,
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Jones and many of his
followers denied the charges.
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It's the most beautiful place
I've ever been in all my life.
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There's so many
wonderful things about it.
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This is a beautiful place here
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and it's fun over here,
it's really good.
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I do not want to go back
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in any way shape or form
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to the States.
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I can't help but say that
none of this would
have been possible
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had it not been for Jim Jones.
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JONES: My father,
his entire existence
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lay in the hands of those
who perceived him.
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I think
people need to understand
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that every hour of the day
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Jim Jones
thought he was a fraud.
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He knew he was a bad guy,
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he knew he was a sick guy,
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he just didn't want
anybody else to know.
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(SIREN BLARING)
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White Night, White Night,
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everybody
report to the pavilion.
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White Night.
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NARRATOR:
Vern Gosney had joined
Peoples Temple in 1974
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and had been living
in Jonestown for eight months.
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GOSNEY: The term White Night
was a term used for like
an extreme emergency.
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(SIREN BLARING)
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There would be a siren
or an announcement
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to come to the pavilion
immediately
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and it was a life
and death situation.
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It was something
where the community
was being threatened,
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and we had to make
an immediate decision
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about a course of action.
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And it would usually be
all of the night.
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NARRATOR: White Nights
were used by Jim Jones
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to create an atmosphere
of fear and desperation
amongst his followers.
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The White Nights
sometimes included
rehearsals for mass suicide,
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which Jones considered
a test of faith and loyalty.
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(TAPPING ON MIC)
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I am the greatest friend
that you will ever have,
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and I'm trying on every level
to protect this community.
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Are you with me?
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Are you with me?
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(CHEERING AND APPLAUDING)
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GOSNEY: There were people
with guns and rifles
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surrounding the assembly.
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People that I knew,
for years, with guns,
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and they weren't pointed
outward,
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they were pointed inward.
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And so there was a sense
of an armed encampment.
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So I must warn you
again and again
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to be together
with the community.
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(BREATHING HEAVILY)
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Jim?
You've been at it for hours.
You're exhausted.
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They're exhausted and afraid.
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Let them go to sleep.
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All right.
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Go on, go on back to bed.
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NARRATOR:
After the death of his wife,
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Vern Gosney arrived
in Jonestown
with his four-year-old son.
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Night.
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GOSNEY: I was very vulnerable.
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I decided I was going to
go to Jonestown
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and they were going to
make me be a good socialist.
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Whatever I was lacking
within myself
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would be instilled in me
by living in Jonestown.
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I wanted to leave
as soon as I got there.
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I was not free to leave,
nor was anyone.
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(CLATTERING)
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I had confided in my roommate
that I wanted to leave
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and that was taking a huge,
huge risk.
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(CLATTERING)
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He had at one time
attempted to escape,
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and he was punished
so severely
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that he was literally
frightened out of his mind.
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We're gonna die here man.
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We're gonna die here.
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NARRATOR: On
November 14th 1978,
US Congressman Leo J. Ryan,
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along with his aide,
Jackie Speier,
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flew to Guyana to investigate
allegations of abuse
within the Temple.
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The delegation included
relatives, who were
determined to see
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that their loved ones
were free to come and go
as they pleased.
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Jim Jones considered the group
a direct threat,
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bent on his and
the movement's destruction.
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Fourteen relatives,
some former Temple members
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who spoke out against Jones
accompanied Ryan.
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Members of the US media
covered the trip including
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Don Harris from NBC,
an American television
network,
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and Tim Reiterman,
a reporter on assignment for
the San Francisco Examiner.
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Jim Jones initially presented
Peoples Temple
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as an extraordinary
institution.
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And he was someone
who was viewed
as a little eccentric
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because he went around
with bodyguards
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and he wore dark glasses,
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whether the sun
was out or not.
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Think he's got
something to hide?
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What do you think?
You spoke with him.
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Yeah, on the radio once.
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Figures we're out to get him.
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REITERMAN:
Congressman's Ryan's trip
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was designed to find out
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whether the allegations
from ex-members were true,
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that Jim Jones controlled
the members
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through disciplinary beatings,
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forcing them to
turn over their property
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and in some cases
custody of their children,
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and whether he was
threatening people with death
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if they would leave
the organization.
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Folks, we're about to land
in Georgetown.
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It's been a long road
for many of you.
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Your loved ones are down there
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and I just want to
let you know that
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we're gonna do everything
we can to make sure
they're safe,
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they're happy
and they're being
well looked after.
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In other words, we still
don't have an official invite.
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Uh... Let me tell you
something right now,
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not as your congressman
but as your friend.
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We are going into Jonestown,
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and if any of your
family members
want to come home,
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well, by God,
we're gonna bring them home.
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(APPLAUDING)
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Congressman?
I just wanted to say...
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To thank you.
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This wouldn't have happened
without you.
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LEO: May I?
SHERWIN HARRIS: Oh, sure.
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She's going to be 22
in a week.
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You always hope yours
are gonna turn out all right.
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-LEO: Your ex?
-Yeah.
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She was Linda when I knew her.
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Now she's Sharon.
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Jones made her do that.
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You know why?
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He knew this other girl
called Linda,
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didn't like her, so now no one
can be called Linda.
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Don't you worry
about a thing, Sherwin.
244
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Everything's gonna be
just fine.
245
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NARRATOR: Sherwin Harris
was attempting to
visit his daughter Liane
246
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who was living in Jonestown.
247
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Peoples Temple was something
that started out
248
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apparently to be a good thing,
249
00:16:49,509 --> 00:16:52,312
and just turned
into a nightmare.
250
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In 1978, my daughter
was 21 years old.
251
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My daughter, Liane,
252
00:16:58,785 --> 00:17:01,554
was brought into the
Peoples Temple by her mother,
253
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who was one
of the initial members.
254
00:17:03,956 --> 00:17:08,961
I had what I considered
a strange relationship
with my daughter.
255
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There was always
a distance between us,
256
00:17:10,963 --> 00:17:14,901
there was always something
strange going on.
257
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It was clearly, you know,
a dangerous situation.
258
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At this point we knew
that guns had been
transmitted there.
259
00:17:21,308 --> 00:17:23,042
We knew what
their attitudes were,
260
00:17:23,110 --> 00:17:24,677
we knew that
they were talking,
261
00:17:24,744 --> 00:17:26,946
that they were Marxist
and revolutionaries
262
00:17:27,013 --> 00:17:30,250
and people that acted brutally
towards their own members.
263
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So I don't think
there was any illusions
on any of our parts.
264
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(HAMMERING)
265
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GOSNEY:
The promise of Guyana was
cloaked in religious terms.
266
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It was the promised land,
267
00:17:53,540 --> 00:17:55,208
the land of milk and honey,
268
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the land where we're
gonna build a society
269
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that's really just.
270
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We worked from sun up
to sun down.
271
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We ate rice three times a day.
272
00:18:07,086 --> 00:18:12,925
It's hard to really convey
the remoteness of that place.
273
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There was no means
of communication
with the outside world.
274
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There wasn't like,
"Let me run a mile
275
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"to go to the phone."
276
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There's no phone.
277
00:18:22,602 --> 00:18:24,137
There's no telephones,
278
00:18:24,204 --> 00:18:26,973
there's no televisions,
there's no nothing.
279
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I think it's difficult
to express to people
280
00:18:31,077 --> 00:18:35,047
who don't have
this kind of experience that,
281
00:18:35,114 --> 00:18:36,549
"Oh, well,
why didn't you leave?
282
00:18:36,616 --> 00:18:37,917
"It's so horrible,
it's so terrible.
283
00:18:37,984 --> 00:18:40,086
"How could you put
yourself in that position?"
284
00:18:40,153 --> 00:18:44,791
When, actually, we were
working for a cause
that we believed in.
285
00:18:44,857 --> 00:18:48,195
It's like taking people
to the limit,
286
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and then moving that line,
and then moving that line,
287
00:18:51,831 --> 00:18:53,533
and then moving that line
288
00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:58,171
and wanting so desperately
to believe in the dream
289
00:18:58,238 --> 00:19:01,974
and not seeing
that the dream has
become a nightmare.
290
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NARRATOR:
A handful of Temple members
291
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were permitted to
form a basketball team.
292
00:19:06,813 --> 00:19:10,950
Amongst them was Jim Jones'
19-year-old son, Stephan.
293
00:19:11,017 --> 00:19:13,986
Days before the arrival
of the Ryan delegation,
294
00:19:14,053 --> 00:19:17,089
Stephan and the basketball
team left for Georgetown
295
00:19:17,156 --> 00:19:21,494
to play a series of games
against the
Guyanese national squad.
296
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Dad was worried about
the basketball team leaving
297
00:19:24,030 --> 00:19:25,198
and going into Georgetown.
298
00:19:25,265 --> 00:19:28,401
He knew the congressman
was coming.
299
00:19:28,468 --> 00:19:33,039
I'm sure he feared that
we might turn against him
300
00:19:33,105 --> 00:19:36,576
and, fortunately,
Mom saw that happening
301
00:19:36,643 --> 00:19:41,714
and Mom had really
made this her cause,
to get us out of there.
302
00:19:41,781 --> 00:19:45,318
You have in your hands
the opportunity
to make or break Jonestown,
303
00:19:45,385 --> 00:19:47,754
but you have to show
a lot of character,
304
00:19:47,820 --> 00:19:49,489
a lot of character and grace.
305
00:19:51,658 --> 00:19:55,094
I've seen tremendous growth
in you, Stephan.
306
00:19:55,161 --> 00:19:58,531
Now what you want to do
is when they score a goal,
307
00:19:58,598 --> 00:20:00,467
-you, um,
you give a little clap...
-(CLAPPING)
308
00:20:00,533 --> 00:20:02,269
...and you run right back
to your post.
309
00:20:03,603 --> 00:20:04,971
All right?
310
00:20:08,174 --> 00:20:10,076
"Now remember boys,
when the other team scores
311
00:20:10,142 --> 00:20:12,078
-"you just give them
a little clap, just like that.
-(CLAPPING)
312
00:20:12,144 --> 00:20:14,247
"A little clap."
313
00:20:14,314 --> 00:20:17,049
Believe me, fellas.
I had a little clap in my day.
314
00:20:17,116 --> 00:20:18,851
Don't let him provoke you.
315
00:20:18,918 --> 00:20:21,053
He's trying to find a reason
to keep you from going.
316
00:20:21,120 --> 00:20:23,790
Hmm? Just be the better man.
317
00:20:29,195 --> 00:20:32,265
Okay. Come on now.
318
00:20:32,332 --> 00:20:34,200
Keep your eye on them.
319
00:20:34,267 --> 00:20:35,768
On who?
320
00:20:39,306 --> 00:20:40,640
You don't trust them?
321
00:20:40,707 --> 00:20:44,277
Anybody is capable of putting
a bullet into your head
322
00:20:44,344 --> 00:20:47,580
and if you see
any of those relatives,
those liars,
323
00:20:47,647 --> 00:20:49,316
you don't have anything
to do with them,
324
00:20:49,382 --> 00:20:50,683
you understand?
325
00:20:57,490 --> 00:20:59,058
You did well.
326
00:21:00,827 --> 00:21:02,261
Goodbye, my baby.
327
00:21:05,932 --> 00:21:08,435
You take care of yourself.
328
00:21:08,501 --> 00:21:10,837
I'll see you real soon.
329
00:21:10,903 --> 00:21:12,472
JONES: I remember
saying goodbye to her.
330
00:21:12,539 --> 00:21:16,476
I remember a long moment of
just us looking at each other.
331
00:21:16,543 --> 00:21:20,279
I remember tears in her eyes
and tears of my own.
332
00:21:20,347 --> 00:21:24,717
I remember each of us saying
that we'll see you soon,
333
00:21:24,784 --> 00:21:28,321
me believing it.
334
00:21:28,921 --> 00:21:30,457
Looking back,
335
00:21:30,523 --> 00:21:32,792
I don't think she did believe
that would happen.
336
00:21:34,594 --> 00:21:36,028
(TRUCK DOOR CLOSING)
337
00:21:36,095 --> 00:21:38,831
I honestly think
she thought she was
getting us out of there
338
00:21:38,898 --> 00:21:40,533
before all hell broke loose.
339
00:22:11,030 --> 00:22:12,632
HARRIS: When we
got off the plane,
340
00:22:12,699 --> 00:22:15,702
the first person I saw
was my ex-wife,
341
00:22:15,768 --> 00:22:17,770
and she was
one of their leaders.
342
00:22:17,837 --> 00:22:20,540
She was pretty much
the true believer,
343
00:22:20,607 --> 00:22:21,974
the fanatic, if you will,
344
00:22:22,041 --> 00:22:24,544
the type of person who
could strap the dynamite on
345
00:22:24,611 --> 00:22:27,246
and walk in and
take the whole room out.
346
00:22:27,313 --> 00:22:29,549
That's the degree
of commitment.
347
00:22:37,056 --> 00:22:38,691
When we were in Guyana,
348
00:22:38,758 --> 00:22:41,260
my concern was
to see my daughter.
349
00:22:41,327 --> 00:22:44,964
To that end I contacted
my ex-wife. I phoned her.
350
00:22:52,772 --> 00:22:57,644
SHERWIN: No, I'm not trying
to tear anybody apart.
351
00:22:57,710 --> 00:23:00,112
I am not against anybody.
352
00:23:00,179 --> 00:23:02,048
Would you stop that, please?
353
00:23:02,114 --> 00:23:05,652
I am here...
I am here to see Liane.
354
00:23:06,986 --> 00:23:12,324
Lin... Sharon,
I'm not gonna argue with you.
355
00:23:12,391 --> 00:23:14,994
I've just flown
thousands of miles
to see my daughter
356
00:23:15,061 --> 00:23:16,829
and I am going to see her,
357
00:23:16,896 --> 00:23:18,598
and neither you,
nor the Temple,
358
00:23:18,665 --> 00:23:21,468
nor Jim Jones Almighty
himself is going to stop me.
359
00:23:21,534 --> 00:23:23,503
All right? Do you hear me?
360
00:23:23,570 --> 00:23:25,638
Then hear me.
361
00:23:25,705 --> 00:23:27,440
She's my daughter, too,
362
00:23:27,507 --> 00:23:30,543
and I am going to
see her tomorrow,
363
00:23:30,610 --> 00:23:32,378
if I have to go to
Jonestown myself,
364
00:23:32,445 --> 00:23:34,847
I am going to see her.
365
00:23:36,883 --> 00:23:38,217
Good night.
366
00:23:44,056 --> 00:23:47,426
HARRIS: I wasn't really
concerned about
getting into Jonestown
367
00:23:47,494 --> 00:23:49,496
as much as seeing my daughter.
368
00:23:49,562 --> 00:23:51,898
I wanted to spend the time
that I had there
with my daughter
369
00:23:51,964 --> 00:23:56,002
and also to discover fully
what was going on.
370
00:23:56,068 --> 00:23:57,470
I loved my daughter very much.
371
00:23:57,537 --> 00:23:59,672
I was committed to my daughter
372
00:23:59,739 --> 00:24:02,609
like you can't believe,
from the moment of her birth,
373
00:24:02,675 --> 00:24:06,679
I got that
her life depended on me.
374
00:24:06,746 --> 00:24:09,649
It was just that simple
and I was committed to her.
375
00:24:09,716 --> 00:24:11,350
I was very young
when she was born,
376
00:24:11,417 --> 00:24:13,419
but it didn't matter.
377
00:24:13,486 --> 00:24:16,556
I would move Heaven and Earth.
378
00:24:16,623 --> 00:24:20,192
NARRATOR: The Peoples Temple
owned a house
in the capital of Georgetown,
379
00:24:20,259 --> 00:24:22,128
which functioned as
a way station
380
00:24:22,194 --> 00:24:26,533
for Temple members
moving in and out
of Jonestown.
381
00:24:26,599 --> 00:24:30,136
Residents of the house
included Sherwin Harris'
ex-wife.
382
00:24:30,202 --> 00:24:31,604
Come on, back to sleep, baby.
383
00:24:31,671 --> 00:24:34,140
NARRATOR:
And his daughter Liane's
stepsister, Kristen,
384
00:24:34,206 --> 00:24:36,408
and a younger stepbrother,
Martin.
385
00:24:40,747 --> 00:24:41,948
(STATIC)
386
00:24:43,315 --> 00:24:46,152
Come in Jonestown.
This is Georgetown.
387
00:24:46,218 --> 00:24:48,320
JIM: Go ahead,
go ahead, go ahead.
388
00:24:48,387 --> 00:24:50,590
SHARON: They're here.
389
00:24:50,657 --> 00:24:53,626
They're determined to get in.
390
00:24:55,227 --> 00:24:56,462
(STATIC)
391
00:24:58,030 --> 00:24:59,265
(MIC CLATTERS)
392
00:24:59,966 --> 00:25:01,568
(SNIFFS)
393
00:25:07,774 --> 00:25:09,375
(SIREN BLARING)
394
00:25:19,285 --> 00:25:23,255
JIM: (OVER PA)
White Night, White Night,
395
00:25:23,322 --> 00:25:26,092
everybody report
to the pavilion.
396
00:25:26,158 --> 00:25:30,029
White Night, White Night.
397
00:25:30,096 --> 00:25:35,034
GOSNEY: I had confided
in my roommate
that I wanted to leave
398
00:25:35,101 --> 00:25:38,504
and he confided
in someone else.
399
00:25:42,642 --> 00:25:44,944
What's going on?
400
00:25:45,011 --> 00:25:46,378
And that was Monica.
401
00:25:47,980 --> 00:25:49,081
Dunno.
402
00:25:50,316 --> 00:25:51,984
We have gotta get out of here.
403
00:25:54,787 --> 00:25:56,422
I didn't trust anyone.
404
00:25:56,488 --> 00:25:57,990
Everybody
was watching everyone.
405
00:25:58,057 --> 00:26:00,192
I had never had
a conversation with Monica.
406
00:26:01,060 --> 00:26:02,328
You got a plan?
407
00:26:02,394 --> 00:26:05,197
Hell no! I thought you did.
408
00:26:06,699 --> 00:26:09,568
And we began
to talk to each other
409
00:26:09,636 --> 00:26:12,739
and bolster each other
about wanting to leave.
410
00:26:15,608 --> 00:26:17,176
NARRATOR:
For many in Jonestown,
411
00:26:17,243 --> 00:26:21,380
the reality was at least
as bad as the press reports.
412
00:26:21,447 --> 00:26:22,481
From what I've seen,
413
00:26:22,548 --> 00:26:24,884
what was reported was true
414
00:26:24,951 --> 00:26:26,452
and it wasn't good.
415
00:26:26,518 --> 00:26:29,388
Such as torture, abuse,
416
00:26:29,455 --> 00:26:33,525
deceit, theft, faked healings,
417
00:26:33,592 --> 00:26:35,227
drugging of people,
418
00:26:35,294 --> 00:26:36,696
punishing of children,
419
00:26:36,763 --> 00:26:40,332
the drumming up of fear.
420
00:26:40,399 --> 00:26:44,671
NARRATOR: Jim Jones used fear
as his chief method
of controlling his people,
421
00:26:44,737 --> 00:26:49,441
especially those with
thoughts of returning
to the United States.
422
00:26:49,508 --> 00:26:53,079
It was just one account
after another
423
00:26:53,145 --> 00:26:56,248
of how horrible the
United States was becoming.
424
00:26:56,315 --> 00:27:00,319
Concentration camps
were being constructed
for people of color.
425
00:27:00,386 --> 00:27:02,722
The borders
were being patrolled
426
00:27:02,789 --> 00:27:06,759
by racist organizations
like the Ku Klux Klan.
427
00:27:06,826 --> 00:27:08,460
When that failed,
428
00:27:08,527 --> 00:27:11,297
the message was, well,
nuclear war is just
around the corner
429
00:27:11,363 --> 00:27:14,166
and we were in
one of the safest places
430
00:27:14,233 --> 00:27:17,503
to ride out nuclear holocaust.
431
00:27:17,569 --> 00:27:21,808
NARRATOR: Jim Jones,
determined to keep prying eyes
away from his settlement,
432
00:27:21,874 --> 00:27:24,476
rallied temple members
to sign a petition
433
00:27:24,543 --> 00:27:29,548
demanding that Congressman
Ryan and his delegation
stay out of Jonestown.
434
00:27:29,615 --> 00:27:32,618
I want to see how many of you
will sign right now,
435
00:27:32,685 --> 00:27:34,086
right now and say, "No!
436
00:27:35,154 --> 00:27:37,256
"No, I will not go back."
437
00:27:37,323 --> 00:27:40,392
GOSNEY: The conditions at
Jonestown were not conducive
438
00:27:40,459 --> 00:27:42,995
for someone to think clearly
or sharply.
439
00:27:43,062 --> 00:27:44,530
I was numb.
440
00:27:44,596 --> 00:27:47,834
I was emotionally, mentally
and spiritually drained.
441
00:27:47,900 --> 00:27:50,102
My own personal feeling was
442
00:27:50,169 --> 00:27:53,572
I didn't know what
was going to happen to me.
443
00:27:53,639 --> 00:27:56,075
"No, I will not see
any of my relatives."
444
00:27:56,142 --> 00:27:57,409
This is what you have to do
445
00:27:57,476 --> 00:28:00,479
because if your relatives come
with Congressman Ryan,
446
00:28:00,546 --> 00:28:03,049
if your relatives
come with him,
447
00:28:03,115 --> 00:28:04,650
then your relatives,
448
00:28:04,717 --> 00:28:08,120
your relatives are
no better than he is.
449
00:28:08,187 --> 00:28:11,758
GOSNEY: I was unclear about
what the plan exactly was,
450
00:28:11,824 --> 00:28:15,327
but my focus
was the congressman
451
00:28:15,394 --> 00:28:17,163
and getting his assistance.
452
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,215
NARRATOR:
Running out of options,
453
00:28:36,282 --> 00:28:38,450
Congressman Ryan
confronted Temple members
454
00:28:38,517 --> 00:28:40,552
at their headquarters
in Georgetown,
455
00:28:40,619 --> 00:28:44,423
the only link to Jim Jones
and Jonestown itself.
456
00:28:44,490 --> 00:28:46,292
I better do this alone.
457
00:28:51,030 --> 00:28:56,502
Uh, if I'm not back
in, say, five minutes,
send in the dogs.
458
00:28:58,704 --> 00:29:00,873
NARRATOR: The house was
full of Temple members,
459
00:29:00,940 --> 00:29:04,543
including Stephan Jones
and the rest of
the basketball team.
460
00:29:13,652 --> 00:29:15,021
(PEOPLE SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY)
461
00:29:21,794 --> 00:29:23,662
Hi.
462
00:29:23,729 --> 00:29:26,365
I'm Leo Ryan, the bad guy.
463
00:29:27,633 --> 00:29:29,635
Hi.
464
00:29:29,701 --> 00:29:31,871
JONES: I remember
the congressman showing up.
465
00:29:31,938 --> 00:29:35,174
I remember having
mixed feelings about it.
466
00:29:35,241 --> 00:29:38,010
Are you drawing? Let's see.
467
00:29:38,077 --> 00:29:42,448
JONES: Very outgoing,
charismatic, genuine man,
468
00:29:42,514 --> 00:29:44,650
or so it seemed to me,
469
00:29:44,716 --> 00:29:46,485
and you don't get much
of that in the Temple.
470
00:29:46,552 --> 00:29:48,020
What's your name?
471
00:29:48,087 --> 00:29:49,488
SHARON:
What can I do for your,
Mr. Ryan?
472
00:29:49,555 --> 00:29:50,957
Well, I'd like to
speak with Jim.
473
00:29:51,023 --> 00:29:52,291
Jim's not here.
474
00:29:52,358 --> 00:29:53,792
But you can put me
in touch with him.
475
00:29:53,860 --> 00:29:55,494
And at the same time thinking,
476
00:29:55,561 --> 00:29:57,229
"Who do you think you are
477
00:29:57,296 --> 00:29:59,365
"walking up on our house?"
478
00:29:59,431 --> 00:30:01,200
SHARON:
You're gonna have to leave.
479
00:30:01,968 --> 00:30:03,903
Hi. I'm Leo Ryan.
480
00:30:03,970 --> 00:30:05,471
You must have heard of me.
481
00:30:05,537 --> 00:30:07,273
Stephan Jones. Once or twice.
482
00:30:07,339 --> 00:30:09,608
Oh, what are you
doing in town?
483
00:30:09,675 --> 00:30:11,110
Basketball tournament.
484
00:30:11,177 --> 00:30:14,180
Us against
the Guyanese nationals.
485
00:30:14,246 --> 00:30:15,714
LEO: How's it going?
486
00:30:15,781 --> 00:30:18,617
Well, sir, they kicked
our butts good
the first two games.
487
00:30:18,684 --> 00:30:20,887
We're looking
for a little revenge.
488
00:30:20,953 --> 00:30:23,622
Well, let me know
if you could use
an extra pair of hands.
489
00:30:23,689 --> 00:30:25,791
I can't dunk, but
you know us politicians,
490
00:30:25,858 --> 00:30:30,129
we pass things really well
like basketballs and the buck.
(LAUGHING)
491
00:30:30,196 --> 00:30:33,565
Congressman,
you can't just come in here
as you please.
492
00:30:33,632 --> 00:30:36,102
Lighten up, Sharon.
The man's just trying
to be friendly.
493
00:30:36,168 --> 00:30:37,803
Mind if I ask
you a couple of questions?
494
00:30:37,870 --> 00:30:40,206
Like, do you like it there?
Jonestown, I mean.
495
00:30:40,272 --> 00:30:41,473
How is it?
496
00:30:41,540 --> 00:30:43,042
Your father
wants to talk to you.
497
00:30:47,914 --> 00:30:49,515
Well, good luck, Stephan.
498
00:30:49,581 --> 00:30:51,183
With the game, I mean.
499
00:30:53,519 --> 00:30:56,088
You're gonna have to
leave now, Mr. Ryan.
500
00:30:56,155 --> 00:30:57,990
This is private property.
501
00:31:01,727 --> 00:31:05,131
Okay, it was nice meeting you.
502
00:31:05,197 --> 00:31:07,266
I'll be seeing you again.
Bye-bye.
503
00:31:15,041 --> 00:31:18,344
JONES: There was a point
at which my father
sent orders,
504
00:31:18,410 --> 00:31:20,312
funneled
through the radio room.
505
00:31:20,379 --> 00:31:23,015
Everything came through there
and Sharon Amos,
506
00:31:23,082 --> 00:31:25,117
that we were to return
to Jonestown.
507
00:31:25,184 --> 00:31:27,319
The basketball team
was ordered to come back.
508
00:31:27,386 --> 00:31:29,555
JIM: I want you to come home.
509
00:31:29,621 --> 00:31:31,090
Why?
510
00:31:31,157 --> 00:31:34,860
Why?
You're needed here is why.
511
00:31:34,927 --> 00:31:36,929
McElvane's coming back
first thing in the morning.
512
00:31:36,996 --> 00:31:38,965
I want you to be
on the truck with him,
513
00:31:39,031 --> 00:31:41,067
the whole damn bunch of you.
514
00:31:41,133 --> 00:31:45,171
STEPHAN: Look.
You said it yourself,
we're good PR, Dad.
515
00:31:47,173 --> 00:31:48,707
That's all there is to it.
516
00:31:48,774 --> 00:31:50,809
We're having a good time,
we're playing basketball.
517
00:31:52,778 --> 00:31:54,113
You talk to him.
518
00:31:54,180 --> 00:31:57,049
Talk to him.
519
00:31:57,116 --> 00:31:59,785
MARCELINE: Stephan? I think
you'd better come back.
520
00:32:01,087 --> 00:32:03,155
You don't know what's
happening here, Stephan.
521
00:32:03,222 --> 00:32:05,324
We really need you.
522
00:32:05,391 --> 00:32:07,426
We're staying, Mom.
523
00:32:07,493 --> 00:32:10,462
We got a game against
the national team tomorrow.
524
00:32:10,529 --> 00:32:12,965
How's it gonna look if we
just hightail it outta here?
525
00:32:14,700 --> 00:32:17,769
Besides, you don't need
to speak for him.
526
00:32:17,836 --> 00:32:19,438
(GRUNTING)
527
00:32:19,505 --> 00:32:21,840
Well, it's up to you.
528
00:32:21,907 --> 00:32:24,743
(GRUNTING)
No! It is not up to him!
529
00:32:24,810 --> 00:32:27,146
I do not want him
having anything to do
530
00:32:27,213 --> 00:32:29,515
with that congressman
or with the relatives.
531
00:32:29,581 --> 00:32:32,718
I want him back here now.
532
00:32:32,784 --> 00:32:36,422
You don't give a damn
what happens here!
533
00:32:36,488 --> 00:32:40,292
JONES: I knew,
had known for a long time
my father was nuts.
534
00:32:40,359 --> 00:32:43,929
I'm one that believes
he was...
535
00:32:43,996 --> 00:32:46,632
He was sick
from very early on.
536
00:32:46,698 --> 00:32:49,035
By the time
the congressman came,
537
00:32:49,101 --> 00:32:50,569
he only had a few more months
538
00:32:50,636 --> 00:32:52,371
at the rate he was going,
with his drug use.
539
00:32:52,438 --> 00:32:55,041
He was just slowly
killing himself on drugs.
540
00:32:55,107 --> 00:32:56,708
(BREATHING HEAVILY)
541
00:32:58,944 --> 00:33:01,780
Who do you think is
keeping this place together?
542
00:33:03,649 --> 00:33:06,185
I am!
543
00:33:06,252 --> 00:33:09,255
I am keeping this
goddamn place together.
544
00:33:09,321 --> 00:33:10,689
That boy!
545
00:33:10,756 --> 00:33:13,659
JONES: I know I sent him
closer to the edge
546
00:33:13,725 --> 00:33:15,994
by refusing to come back
at that time.
547
00:33:19,798 --> 00:33:23,435
There was no denying
that he was losing control.
548
00:33:23,502 --> 00:33:25,437
And to a man like my father,
549
00:33:25,504 --> 00:33:28,940
it must have been like
he was sinking in quicksand,
550
00:33:29,007 --> 00:33:30,542
grabbing at nothing.
551
00:33:32,111 --> 00:33:33,212
(WHIMPERING)
552
00:33:44,190 --> 00:33:47,893
NARRATOR: Jim Jones
summoned Peoples Temple
lawyer, Charles Garry,
553
00:33:47,959 --> 00:33:50,996
to handle Congressman
Ryan's visit to Jonestown.
554
00:33:51,063 --> 00:33:55,101
But Jones suddenly reversed
course and denied entry.
555
00:33:55,167 --> 00:33:57,369
What do you mean
we're not going to Jonestown?
556
00:34:00,439 --> 00:34:02,308
The only goddamn reason
I came here
557
00:34:02,374 --> 00:34:04,543
is to take Ryan to Jonestown.
558
00:34:04,610 --> 00:34:06,512
Who the hell changed it,
Sharon, you?
559
00:34:06,578 --> 00:34:08,580
Jim did, all right?
560
00:34:08,647 --> 00:34:13,519
It was Ryan's fault anyway,
coming in like he did.
561
00:34:13,585 --> 00:34:15,654
CHARLES:
It's a whole lot of crap.
562
00:34:15,721 --> 00:34:17,956
It was Jim's decision
to cancel the visit.
563
00:34:18,023 --> 00:34:19,491
You know I've had it
with you people.
564
00:34:19,558 --> 00:34:20,926
There's a plane going back
to Miami at 1:00 p.m.
565
00:34:20,992 --> 00:34:22,394
I'm going to be on it.
566
00:34:22,461 --> 00:34:23,662
You hear me?
567
00:34:27,633 --> 00:34:28,900
Listen to me, Jim.
568
00:34:28,967 --> 00:34:30,802
I'm a righteous man.
569
00:34:31,870 --> 00:34:33,805
We are a righteous people
570
00:34:33,872 --> 00:34:36,375
and these traitors,
571
00:34:36,442 --> 00:34:39,077
they've come to destroy
what we've... (SIGHS)
572
00:34:40,912 --> 00:34:42,047
CHARLES: Jesus!
573
00:34:42,114 --> 00:34:43,382
We cannot allow them.
574
00:34:43,449 --> 00:34:45,484
They want to
steal our children.
575
00:34:46,218 --> 00:34:47,253
Jim...
576
00:34:47,319 --> 00:34:50,656
They been after me so long,
577
00:34:50,722 --> 00:34:53,091
so long, so long.
578
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:55,994
Jim, cut it.
579
00:34:56,061 --> 00:34:57,496
Now what I'm gonna say
is very simple.
580
00:34:57,563 --> 00:34:59,631
You've got two alternatives.
581
00:34:59,698 --> 00:35:01,933
Now the first is
you can tell the Congress
of the United States
582
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,535
to go to hell.
583
00:35:03,602 --> 00:35:05,671
You can tell the media
to go to hell,
584
00:35:05,737 --> 00:35:09,408
which is what you've been
doing all along
over my objections.
585
00:35:09,475 --> 00:35:12,010
You can tell
the concerned relatives
to go to hell,
586
00:35:12,077 --> 00:35:15,314
but if you do that,
I cannot live with it.
587
00:35:15,381 --> 00:35:17,183
It's the end of the line.
588
00:35:17,249 --> 00:35:18,350
I won't be with you.
589
00:35:20,286 --> 00:35:22,154
Now the second alternative is
590
00:35:22,221 --> 00:35:24,323
what I've been urging
you to do all along.
591
00:35:26,625 --> 00:35:28,294
You can let the media in,
592
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,296
you can let
the congressman in,
593
00:35:30,362 --> 00:35:32,864
you can let
the concerned relatives in
594
00:35:32,931 --> 00:35:35,133
and you can let them
see for themselves
595
00:35:35,201 --> 00:35:37,269
what a beautiful place
we have there.
596
00:35:46,512 --> 00:35:47,713
Come down then.
597
00:35:47,779 --> 00:35:50,416
I don't know
what I'm going to do.
598
00:35:50,482 --> 00:35:51,617
Just come down.
599
00:36:00,592 --> 00:36:05,030
REITERMAN: Finally,
we got word after negotiations
600
00:36:05,096 --> 00:36:09,301
between the Congressman and
the Peoples Temple's lawyers
601
00:36:09,368 --> 00:36:12,804
and Jones that
we would be allowed
602
00:36:12,871 --> 00:36:14,440
to head into Jonestown.
603
00:36:16,775 --> 00:36:18,477
(SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY)
604
00:36:23,682 --> 00:36:26,752
The preparation for Jonestown
before Ryan's visit was
605
00:36:26,818 --> 00:36:29,788
just like the mayor
was visiting
606
00:36:29,855 --> 00:36:31,723
or the congressman
was visiting.
607
00:36:31,790 --> 00:36:35,561
You'd paint the house,
you'd spruce up the plants,
you'd weed.
608
00:36:35,627 --> 00:36:38,464
Everything would be
in A number one condition
609
00:36:38,530 --> 00:36:40,732
to make a positive impression.
610
00:36:41,967 --> 00:36:43,769
(INDISTINCT ANNOUNCEMENT
OVER PA)
611
00:36:47,273 --> 00:36:48,774
GOSNEY: We had a lot
of rehearsal
612
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,109
about what to say to these
people if they came in.
613
00:36:51,176 --> 00:36:53,279
We were rehearsed
over and over
614
00:36:53,345 --> 00:36:55,013
and over and over again.
615
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,048
JIM: How long
would you like to stay?
616
00:36:57,115 --> 00:36:58,950
Forever.
617
00:36:59,017 --> 00:37:00,852
You just can't imagine that
618
00:37:00,919 --> 00:37:05,056
all the hundreds of us here
are so extremely happy.
619
00:37:05,123 --> 00:37:07,158
And I love it here.
Nobody to bother me.
620
00:37:07,225 --> 00:37:09,695
I'm free and I love
everything about it.
621
00:37:11,863 --> 00:37:13,164
Now you, you tell me.
622
00:37:13,231 --> 00:37:14,933
Those big buildings out there,
what are they?
623
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,067
Cottages.
624
00:37:16,134 --> 00:37:17,836
And how many people
would you say on average
625
00:37:17,903 --> 00:37:19,271
-lives in a house?
-Four or five.
626
00:37:19,338 --> 00:37:20,772
Two couples to a house.
627
00:37:20,839 --> 00:37:23,275
No, no, no.
I wouldn't say that.
628
00:37:23,342 --> 00:37:24,743
I'd say four or five.
629
00:37:24,810 --> 00:37:26,545
Just don't you go into that.
630
00:37:26,612 --> 00:37:28,146
Pass.
631
00:37:28,213 --> 00:37:30,115
What do you find is wrong
with this place?
632
00:37:30,181 --> 00:37:32,183
Oh,
I don't find anything wrong.
633
00:37:32,250 --> 00:37:33,685
I've had more
opportunities here
634
00:37:33,752 --> 00:37:35,120
than, uh, any other...
635
00:37:35,186 --> 00:37:36,888
Than I ever had in the States.
636
00:37:36,955 --> 00:37:39,358
And how do you feel
about the USA?
637
00:37:39,425 --> 00:37:41,226
Oh, I feel it's all right,
638
00:37:41,293 --> 00:37:42,494
for those who
want to be there.
639
00:37:42,561 --> 00:37:44,430
That's very good.
640
00:37:44,496 --> 00:37:46,932
We don't want to say
we're pro-Soviet or
that we're against America.
641
00:37:46,998 --> 00:37:50,969
-You got that? Pass.
-I got it.
642
00:37:51,036 --> 00:37:54,473
Monica,
when you refer to Jonestown,
how do you refer to it?
643
00:37:54,540 --> 00:37:57,543
As a, uh, a very nice place.
644
00:37:57,609 --> 00:38:01,212
GOSNEY: There was always
an atmosphere
of us versus them.
645
00:38:01,279 --> 00:38:03,782
Jones mentioned that
Congressman Ryan was coming,
646
00:38:03,849 --> 00:38:05,551
concerned relatives
were coming,
647
00:38:05,617 --> 00:38:09,755
journalists, who were
evil incarnate, were coming
648
00:38:09,821 --> 00:38:11,557
and they were coming
to destroy us.
649
00:38:14,025 --> 00:38:16,261
MONICA: Uh, people get along,
650
00:38:16,328 --> 00:38:19,565
white and black together
and, uh...
651
00:38:19,631 --> 00:38:22,934
JIM: Look.
I'd just say it's a community.
652
00:38:23,001 --> 00:38:25,737
Jonestown, it's a community.
653
00:38:25,804 --> 00:38:27,706
All right, pass.
654
00:38:27,773 --> 00:38:30,709
GOSNEY: The survival
of the community rested upon
655
00:38:30,776 --> 00:38:33,244
a good report
from these people
656
00:38:33,311 --> 00:38:37,048
coming and leaving
without incident
657
00:38:37,115 --> 00:38:40,886
and giving wonderful reports
on Jonestown.
658
00:38:44,523 --> 00:38:47,426
What are common complaints
you hear in the community?
659
00:38:49,928 --> 00:38:52,531
I don't hear any complaints,
660
00:38:52,598 --> 00:38:56,368
only praises of our being able
to live here in Guyana.
661
00:38:56,435 --> 00:39:01,039
Uh, my son's here with me
and I appreciate being here.
662
00:39:01,106 --> 00:39:02,574
I enjoy it here.
663
00:39:02,641 --> 00:39:05,677
Uh, I've had... I've had
many more opportunities
for learning trades
664
00:39:05,744 --> 00:39:08,313
than I have in my whole...
In my entire lifetime.
665
00:39:11,049 --> 00:39:12,584
What are some
of the complaints you hear
666
00:39:12,651 --> 00:39:14,520
against the community,
against the Temple?
667
00:39:16,154 --> 00:39:18,990
I don't hear any complaints.
668
00:39:19,057 --> 00:39:22,561
The only thing I hear is
how much people love it here.
669
00:39:22,628 --> 00:39:24,362
Everybody says this is
the best thing
670
00:39:24,430 --> 00:39:26,297
that's ever happened to them
in their whole lives.
671
00:39:26,364 --> 00:39:28,099
How about you?
672
00:39:28,166 --> 00:39:29,635
Is it the best thing that
ever happened to you?
673
00:39:29,701 --> 00:39:32,638
The very best, I really
appreciate being here.
674
00:39:32,704 --> 00:39:33,905
I enjoy it.
675
00:39:36,141 --> 00:39:37,576
That's right.
676
00:39:37,643 --> 00:39:39,277
Thank you.
677
00:39:39,344 --> 00:39:40,479
Thank you.
678
00:39:47,185 --> 00:39:48,920
SHERWIN: Liane's coming here?
679
00:39:50,221 --> 00:39:51,590
No, no. That's fine.
680
00:39:51,657 --> 00:39:54,292
I don't need to go
to Jonestown.
681
00:39:54,359 --> 00:39:57,362
No, if she's coming here,
then I'll just stay here.
682
00:39:58,163 --> 00:39:59,931
Okay.
683
00:39:59,998 --> 00:40:01,567
Lunch is...
684
00:40:01,633 --> 00:40:04,736
Lunch, dinner,
I really don't care.
685
00:40:04,803 --> 00:40:07,338
-Oh, hold on. Hold on.
-(CLATTERING)
686
00:40:08,139 --> 00:40:09,541
One second.
687
00:40:11,209 --> 00:40:12,811
Okay, go ahead.
688
00:40:17,048 --> 00:40:20,251
"Lamaha Gardens."
689
00:40:22,253 --> 00:40:23,388
Good.
690
00:40:24,856 --> 00:40:26,658
No, no. I'll find it.
691
00:40:28,126 --> 00:40:29,761
Yes. Okay.
692
00:40:30,596 --> 00:40:31,963
And, Linda.
693
00:40:32,731 --> 00:40:33,899
Sharon.
694
00:40:34,866 --> 00:40:36,201
Thank you.
695
00:40:37,636 --> 00:40:38,737
Bye.
696
00:40:44,009 --> 00:40:45,210
(SIGHS)
697
00:40:48,346 --> 00:40:49,881
HARRIS:
When I got that information
698
00:40:49,948 --> 00:40:53,418
that my daughter was gonna
come down on Saturday,
699
00:40:53,485 --> 00:40:56,888
there was no reason
in my mind to, at that point,
700
00:40:56,955 --> 00:40:58,056
to go to Jonestown.
701
00:40:58,123 --> 00:40:59,991
Now, if it turned out
I was being lied to
702
00:41:00,058 --> 00:41:01,960
and she didn't show up
on Saturday,
703
00:41:02,027 --> 00:41:03,094
I'm going to Jonestown.
704
00:41:03,161 --> 00:41:04,963
I'm going
wherever I need to go.
705
00:41:05,030 --> 00:41:06,464
I'm gonna find my daughter.
706
00:41:16,074 --> 00:41:17,876
NARRATOR: Congressman Ryan
chartered a plane
707
00:41:17,943 --> 00:41:20,846
to transport relatives
and journalists to Jonestown.
708
00:41:20,912 --> 00:41:22,480
Okay, folks.
The plane's ready.
709
00:41:22,548 --> 00:41:26,251
More than 150 miles deep
into the jungle.
710
00:41:26,317 --> 00:41:28,453
JIM: He says
the Constitution...
711
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:29,988
The Constitution
gives him the right
712
00:41:30,055 --> 00:41:32,323
to come down here and see us
713
00:41:32,390 --> 00:41:34,159
because we are
American taxpayers.
714
00:41:34,225 --> 00:41:36,261
Well, I say the Constitution
does not give him
the right to go
715
00:41:36,327 --> 00:41:38,564
wherever he is not invited!
716
00:41:38,630 --> 00:41:40,265
(CROWD CHEERING)
717
00:41:46,672 --> 00:41:48,039
I mean, what are we
gonna say to him?
718
00:41:48,106 --> 00:41:49,975
What are we gonna say
to him anyway?
719
00:41:50,041 --> 00:41:51,910
You can't win,
I'm telling you,
with this kind of a prick.
720
00:41:51,977 --> 00:41:53,579
You cannot win!
721
00:41:57,649 --> 00:42:00,752
Oh, he treated
our children all nice.
722
00:42:00,819 --> 00:42:02,721
He come tripping
into our house
723
00:42:02,788 --> 00:42:05,056
like he owned it,
telling Sharon Amos,
724
00:42:05,123 --> 00:42:07,025
"I've heard a lot
of dirty things about you."
725
00:42:07,092 --> 00:42:08,860
(CROWD CHEERING)
726
00:42:08,927 --> 00:42:11,429
Well, I said, "You tell him.
727
00:42:11,496 --> 00:42:14,700
"You tell him to go to hell!
728
00:42:14,766 --> 00:42:18,536
"And, and, and, and,
and to get lost!"
729
00:42:23,074 --> 00:42:24,776
You know what?
730
00:42:24,843 --> 00:42:28,246
We don't have to tell him
anything anyway.
731
00:42:28,313 --> 00:42:30,348
We don't have
to tell him anything.
732
00:42:30,415 --> 00:42:31,449
And you know what?
733
00:42:31,516 --> 00:42:32,718
I don't know how long
he's gonna stay,
734
00:42:32,784 --> 00:42:35,120
but I can assure you,
735
00:42:35,186 --> 00:42:38,389
if he stays
long enough for tea,
736
00:42:39,124 --> 00:42:40,926
he's gonna regret it.
737
00:42:40,992 --> 00:42:42,427
CROWD: Yeah!
738
00:42:52,403 --> 00:42:54,405
Know that you have never,
739
00:42:56,608 --> 00:43:00,812
never been loved so much
as I love you right now.
740
00:43:01,479 --> 00:43:02,614
Amen!
741
00:43:02,681 --> 00:43:03,949
CROWD: Amen!
742
00:43:04,750 --> 00:43:05,884
I love you.
743
00:43:05,951 --> 00:43:07,953
CROWD: We love you, too!
744
00:43:13,124 --> 00:43:18,129
Monica, myself and my roommate
did have a meeting
745
00:43:18,196 --> 00:43:20,165
about Ryan coming.
746
00:43:20,231 --> 00:43:24,002
The plan was
I was going to slip
the congressman a note
747
00:43:24,069 --> 00:43:26,738
asking for his help to leave.
748
00:43:28,173 --> 00:43:30,108
This is our chance.
749
00:43:30,175 --> 00:43:32,811
Monica? Keith?
750
00:43:38,183 --> 00:43:40,251
What about your son, Vern?
751
00:43:42,988 --> 00:43:45,691
If I tell him,
he might report us.
752
00:43:45,757 --> 00:43:47,325
(SCRIBBLING)
753
00:43:47,392 --> 00:43:49,795
I wrote the note.
754
00:43:49,861 --> 00:43:51,997
"Vernon Gosney, Monica Bagby,
755
00:43:52,063 --> 00:43:53,865
"help us get
out of Jonestown."
756
00:43:53,932 --> 00:43:55,633
That was the note.
757
00:43:58,837 --> 00:44:00,071
(SIGHS)
758
00:44:01,639 --> 00:44:03,008
He's better off here anyway.
759
00:44:05,043 --> 00:44:08,714
I didn't know
whether to take my son
760
00:44:08,780 --> 00:44:10,749
was the right thing
to do or not.
761
00:44:11,182 --> 00:44:12,450
I, uh...
762
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,388
I wasn't thinking clearly.
763
00:44:23,561 --> 00:44:25,596
REITERMAN: When we flew
over the jungle,
764
00:44:25,663 --> 00:44:31,803
it became pretty clear
how remote and inaccessible
Jonestown really was.
765
00:44:34,572 --> 00:44:37,242
NARRATOR:
The plane touched down
at an isolated airstrip
766
00:44:37,308 --> 00:44:42,113
more than five miles
from Jonestown.
767
00:44:42,180 --> 00:44:47,452
REITERMAN: When we finally
landed on a small dirt
airstrip in Port Kaituma,
768
00:44:47,518 --> 00:44:48,887
it became clear
769
00:44:48,954 --> 00:44:51,089
how difficult
it would have been
770
00:44:51,156 --> 00:44:53,658
for anyone to leave Jonestown.
771
00:45:02,100 --> 00:45:03,701
LEO: Okay,
there is the truck.
772
00:45:05,303 --> 00:45:08,206
REITERMAN: When a truckload
of Peoples Temple members
773
00:45:08,273 --> 00:45:10,341
pulled up with a flatbed,
774
00:45:10,408 --> 00:45:11,509
we expected
775
00:45:11,576 --> 00:45:14,045
that we'd be moving on
quickly to Jonestown
776
00:45:14,112 --> 00:45:17,082
and started
unpacking our gear.
777
00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:24,389
Congressman Ryan?
778
00:45:26,391 --> 00:45:30,461
I'm Corporal Emil Rudder
of the Guyanese Defence Force.
779
00:45:30,528 --> 00:45:32,463
Oh. Thank you very much
for coming to meet us.
780
00:45:32,530 --> 00:45:35,834
Uh, I've been instructed
to inform you that
781
00:45:35,901 --> 00:45:40,772
only Mr. Garry is to board
the truck for Jonestown.
782
00:45:40,839 --> 00:45:43,975
Look, we're
a congressional delegation.
783
00:45:44,042 --> 00:45:47,645
We're here to inquire
into the health and welfare
of the people of Jonestown.
784
00:45:47,712 --> 00:45:49,480
My instructions are clear.
785
00:45:49,547 --> 00:45:51,349
Well, who are you getting
your instructions from?
786
00:45:51,416 --> 00:45:53,684
(SIGHS) Please return
to the plane.
787
00:45:53,751 --> 00:45:57,155
Uh, Congressman Ryan
and his assistant here
can come with us.
788
00:45:57,222 --> 00:45:58,824
Uh, Mr. Garry, I was told...
789
00:45:58,890 --> 00:46:00,625
Never mind
what you've been told.
I'm telling you!
790
00:46:00,691 --> 00:46:01,759
If you catch any grief,
791
00:46:01,827 --> 00:46:03,328
I'll be right there.
Congressman.
792
00:46:03,394 --> 00:46:04,462
And what about the others?
793
00:46:04,529 --> 00:46:06,832
(SIGHS) I'm working on it.
794
00:46:06,898 --> 00:46:08,266
Thank you.
795
00:46:10,368 --> 00:46:12,470
Don't try to come on your own.
796
00:46:21,646 --> 00:46:24,916
REITERMAN: Clearly,
at that point
we were not welcome.
797
00:46:24,983 --> 00:46:26,985
All we could do was wait.
798
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,190
Finally, within a few hours,
799
00:46:32,257 --> 00:46:34,792
the truck returned
to the airstrip.
800
00:46:36,761 --> 00:46:39,197
Anybody that wants to come
to Jonestown, climb on!
801
00:46:39,264 --> 00:46:41,166
And we were allowed
to board it
802
00:46:41,232 --> 00:46:43,501
and we rode toward Jonestown
803
00:46:43,568 --> 00:46:46,204
with several members
of the Temple.
804
00:46:47,205 --> 00:46:48,539
Let's go!
805
00:46:54,579 --> 00:46:56,915
REITERMAN:
I think everyone recognized
806
00:46:56,982 --> 00:46:59,417
that there was
a potential for danger.
807
00:47:08,826 --> 00:47:11,229
We were entering a place
808
00:47:11,296 --> 00:47:16,334
where not only were we
surrounded by miles of jungle,
809
00:47:16,401 --> 00:47:20,271
but we also
were in the control
810
00:47:20,338 --> 00:47:23,074
of Jim Jones and his members.
811
00:47:24,009 --> 00:47:25,843
And as a practical matter,
812
00:47:25,911 --> 00:47:29,314
it would be hard to get out
without their permission.
813
00:47:36,321 --> 00:47:37,622
CHILD 1: Look it!
They just arrived!
814
00:47:37,688 --> 00:47:40,892
CHILD 1: Here! They're here!
CHILD 2: Come on!
815
00:47:46,397 --> 00:47:50,668
When we pulled into Jonestown,
my first impression was
816
00:47:50,735 --> 00:47:55,573
that this place had taken
a tremendous amount
of work to produce.
817
00:47:57,042 --> 00:48:00,611
To make something from scratch
818
00:48:00,678 --> 00:48:02,948
in the middle of nowhere
819
00:48:03,014 --> 00:48:04,115
was an impressive feat.
820
00:48:06,051 --> 00:48:08,987
WOMAN ON PA: Attention,
attention, attention!
821
00:48:10,989 --> 00:48:12,823
The reporters are arriving.
822
00:48:12,890 --> 00:48:14,792
Some of them
will want to take pictures,
823
00:48:14,859 --> 00:48:17,028
so anyone who doesn't
want their picture taken
824
00:48:17,095 --> 00:48:19,164
will be excused.
825
00:48:19,230 --> 00:48:22,200
REITERMAN: There were
hundreds of people
826
00:48:22,267 --> 00:48:23,969
around the pavilion
827
00:48:24,035 --> 00:48:26,537
and we were
escorted there directly
828
00:48:26,604 --> 00:48:29,207
-to the Reverend Jim Jones.
-(JOVIAL MUSIC PLAYING)
829
00:48:38,849 --> 00:48:41,252
CHARLES: Jim, the gentlemen
of the press have arrived.
830
00:48:41,319 --> 00:48:44,022
This is Don Harris
of NBC News.
831
00:48:44,089 --> 00:48:45,190
Nice to meet you.
832
00:48:45,256 --> 00:48:46,257
(CLEARS THROAT)
833
00:48:47,092 --> 00:48:49,360
Reverend Jones? Tim Reiterman.
834
00:48:50,595 --> 00:48:52,130
I've read
many of your stories.
835
00:48:52,197 --> 00:48:55,666
I guess you can only print
what they're telling you.
836
00:48:55,733 --> 00:48:57,768
TIM: Well, we've tried
to get your side of the story,
837
00:48:57,835 --> 00:48:59,804
but haven't had much success.
838
00:48:59,870 --> 00:49:02,540
That's why I'm here,
to see the mission for myself.
839
00:49:02,607 --> 00:49:08,446
Good. A lot of people
have found it to be
beautiful, a paradise.
840
00:49:08,513 --> 00:49:10,015
REITERMAN:
He was very cordial,
841
00:49:10,081 --> 00:49:12,017
but it was still disturbing
842
00:49:12,083 --> 00:49:16,821
to see that he appeared weak.
843
00:49:16,887 --> 00:49:22,193
What really concerned me
was the way he spoke.
844
00:49:22,260 --> 00:49:24,996
Mind if I ask you
a couple of questions?
845
00:49:26,497 --> 00:49:29,434
Why did you decide
to let us in now,
846
00:49:29,500 --> 00:49:32,303
a year after
our first request?
847
00:49:34,072 --> 00:49:35,540
What have we got to lose?
848
00:49:35,606 --> 00:49:37,675
There is no barbed wire here.
849
00:49:37,742 --> 00:49:40,178
We don't have three,
let alone 300
that want to leave.
850
00:49:40,245 --> 00:49:42,980
We're not violent.
We don't do violence
to anyone.
851
00:49:43,048 --> 00:49:45,116
Ageism, sexism, racism
852
00:49:45,183 --> 00:49:46,384
have all been eliminated.
853
00:49:46,451 --> 00:49:48,186
Elitism is almost eliminated.
854
00:49:48,253 --> 00:49:51,122
We are Marxist
in the sense of sharing work
855
00:49:51,189 --> 00:49:54,925
and in the distribution
of goods and services.
856
00:49:54,992 --> 00:49:58,163
What about the threats
of mass suicide, Reverend?
857
00:49:59,430 --> 00:50:01,432
I only said
that it will be better
858
00:50:01,499 --> 00:50:03,568
that we commit suicide
than kill.
859
00:50:03,634 --> 00:50:06,037
(STAMMERING) Why hurt
social progress?
860
00:50:06,104 --> 00:50:09,574
He started speaking
in a paranoid fashion
861
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,109
about his enemies,
862
00:50:11,176 --> 00:50:13,078
and began to quietly
863
00:50:13,144 --> 00:50:15,380
sort of rant about them.
864
00:50:15,446 --> 00:50:17,115
(STAMMERING) I curse
the day I was born.
865
00:50:17,182 --> 00:50:20,085
I don't know why
these people hate me so.
866
00:50:20,151 --> 00:50:22,587
In some ways,
I feel like, um...
867
00:50:24,055 --> 00:50:25,690
Well, like a dying man.
868
00:50:25,756 --> 00:50:28,593
You don't need to put
a bullet in my head.
869
00:50:29,727 --> 00:50:31,462
Thank you.
870
00:50:31,529 --> 00:50:36,401
REITERMAN:
It was disturbing to hear him
sort of put a figurative gun
871
00:50:36,467 --> 00:50:38,103
in the hands of those of us
872
00:50:38,169 --> 00:50:41,239
who had come
to Jonestown to visit.
873
00:50:41,306 --> 00:50:45,110
It was also disturbing
to hear someone
874
00:50:45,176 --> 00:50:48,346
who had the lives
of so many people in his hands
875
00:50:48,413 --> 00:50:49,914
speak that way.
876
00:50:52,350 --> 00:50:56,053
GOSNEY: The plan was
I was going to slip
the congressman a note
877
00:50:56,121 --> 00:50:57,988
asking for his help.
878
00:50:58,055 --> 00:50:59,824
In my state of mind,
879
00:50:59,890 --> 00:51:03,861
I didn't know who was who
at that time yet.
880
00:51:03,928 --> 00:51:06,063
I see someone who I think
is the congressman
881
00:51:06,131 --> 00:51:09,467
who is walking around
the perimeter of the assembly.
882
00:51:11,068 --> 00:51:14,372
If I passed the note
and it was unsuccessful,
883
00:51:14,439 --> 00:51:16,907
I knew I would be killed.
884
00:51:16,974 --> 00:51:18,743
There was no doubt about it.
885
00:51:18,809 --> 00:51:21,946
I would be...
I would be killed.
886
00:51:53,444 --> 00:51:55,480
VERNON: You dropped this.
887
00:51:57,715 --> 00:51:59,350
He passed a note!
888
00:52:08,593 --> 00:52:11,262
McELVANE: What was
that about, Vern?
889
00:52:11,329 --> 00:52:13,063
VERNON: It was
nothing. (LAUGHS)
890
00:52:13,130 --> 00:52:15,233
He dropped something
and I picked it up for him,
that's all.
891
00:52:21,939 --> 00:52:24,375
MARCELINE: And now, everyone,
I'd like to introduce you
892
00:52:24,442 --> 00:52:26,844
to a very special guest.
893
00:52:26,911 --> 00:52:30,415
He has represented many of us
who lived in his district
894
00:52:30,481 --> 00:52:31,949
back in California,
895
00:52:32,016 --> 00:52:34,685
and we'd like for you
to say a few words to us.
896
00:52:34,752 --> 00:52:37,222
GOSNEY:
It wasn't until later
897
00:52:37,288 --> 00:52:41,326
that I found out that
that individual was not
the congressman.
898
00:52:41,392 --> 00:52:42,860
Congressman Ryan.
899
00:52:42,927 --> 00:52:45,162
(CROWD CHEERING AND CLAPPING)
900
00:52:53,738 --> 00:52:54,739
Thank you, Marceline.
901
00:52:56,106 --> 00:52:58,209
I'm not used to making
public speeches.
902
00:52:58,276 --> 00:53:00,211
(CROWD GROANING)
903
00:53:00,278 --> 00:53:02,347
Yeah, don't give me
that here, I guess.
904
00:53:02,413 --> 00:53:04,615
I'm very glad to be here.
905
00:53:04,682 --> 00:53:06,317
I have already met
a former student of mine.
906
00:53:06,384 --> 00:53:07,685
I've already met
a former classmate
907
00:53:07,752 --> 00:53:09,186
of one of my daughters
908
00:53:09,254 --> 00:53:11,622
from Mills High School
in Burlingame.
909
00:53:11,689 --> 00:53:13,691
This is
a congressional inquiry.
910
00:53:13,758 --> 00:53:15,393
I think all of you know
that I'm here to find out
911
00:53:15,460 --> 00:53:17,262
more about questions
that have been raised
912
00:53:17,328 --> 00:53:19,096
about your operations here.
913
00:53:19,163 --> 00:53:22,099
But I can tell you right now
that from the conversations
914
00:53:22,166 --> 00:53:24,802
I've had with
some of the folks
here already tonight,
915
00:53:24,869 --> 00:53:26,604
that no matter what
the comments are,
916
00:53:26,671 --> 00:53:28,706
that there are
some people here who believe
917
00:53:28,773 --> 00:53:30,875
that this is the best thing
that's ever happened to them
in their whole lives.
918
00:53:30,941 --> 00:53:33,010
(CROWD CHEERING AND CLAPPING)
919
00:53:50,995 --> 00:53:53,130
GOSNEY: After Ryan spoke,
920
00:53:53,197 --> 00:53:55,700
I was approached
by Congressman Ryan.
921
00:53:58,436 --> 00:54:00,871
Is your name Vernon Gosney?
922
00:54:00,938 --> 00:54:03,541
Did you give this man a note
asking to leave Jonestown?
923
00:54:03,608 --> 00:54:05,510
VERNON: Yes, sir.
924
00:54:05,576 --> 00:54:07,144
Then let me tell you,
you've got seats
925
00:54:07,211 --> 00:54:09,213
on the first plane
out of here tomorrow.
926
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,081
Congressman Ryan had no idea
927
00:54:11,148 --> 00:54:13,318
of what he had
walked into, at all.
928
00:54:14,919 --> 00:54:18,489
I'm not sure we should wait
till tomorrow, Congressman.
929
00:54:18,556 --> 00:54:20,358
LEO: We've got a lot
of work to do here.
930
00:54:20,425 --> 00:54:22,627
You're in danger.
You have to know that.
931
00:54:22,693 --> 00:54:23,894
We'll be fine.
932
00:54:23,961 --> 00:54:24,995
We're under the protection
933
00:54:25,062 --> 00:54:26,931
of the US Congress.
934
00:54:27,665 --> 00:54:28,699
Tomorrow.
935
00:54:31,669 --> 00:54:35,906
GOSNEY: And it was apparent
after talking to him
936
00:54:35,973 --> 00:54:38,609
that he couldn't
really conceive
937
00:54:38,676 --> 00:54:41,178
the level of danger
that he was in.
938
00:54:55,626 --> 00:54:56,994
REITERMAN: On that Saturday,
939
00:54:57,695 --> 00:54:58,963
the last day...
940
00:54:59,029 --> 00:55:01,031
(INDISTINCT CONVERSATION)
941
00:55:01,098 --> 00:55:03,634
I wondered just
how many other people
942
00:55:03,701 --> 00:55:05,302
might want to leave.
943
00:55:05,370 --> 00:55:06,737
The thing is, Ryan told me
944
00:55:06,804 --> 00:55:10,307
someone else
aside from this Vern guy
approached him.
945
00:55:10,375 --> 00:55:11,542
Wanting out?
946
00:55:11,609 --> 00:55:13,110
Yeah, exactly.
947
00:55:14,879 --> 00:55:18,215
MARCELINE: Morning!
Sleep all right?
948
00:55:18,282 --> 00:55:21,486
Oh, that was the softest
hardwood floor
a man could ask for.
949
00:55:21,552 --> 00:55:22,553
(ALL LAUGHING)
950
00:55:22,620 --> 00:55:23,988
REITERMAN:
Marceline Jones,
951
00:55:24,054 --> 00:55:27,057
who was Jim Jones' wife,
952
00:55:27,124 --> 00:55:30,395
took some of us
throughout the encampment.
953
00:55:31,829 --> 00:55:34,231
This is my pride and joy,
954
00:55:34,298 --> 00:55:36,166
I don't mind saying.
955
00:55:36,233 --> 00:55:40,371
This is the first home
to all 33 children
born here in Jonestown.
956
00:55:45,610 --> 00:55:48,379
REITERMAN: Marceline Jones
was clearly proud
957
00:55:48,446 --> 00:55:52,850
of everything that
had been built in Jonestown.
958
00:55:52,917 --> 00:55:55,119
The school and the nursery,
959
00:55:55,185 --> 00:55:57,955
the clinic that provided
healthcare for children
960
00:55:58,022 --> 00:56:00,525
that seemed to be
961
00:56:00,591 --> 00:56:03,528
what inspired her
and sustained her.
962
00:56:03,594 --> 00:56:04,862
(INDISTINCT SPEECH)
963
00:56:04,929 --> 00:56:07,131
That's some pretty
advanced reading.
964
00:56:07,197 --> 00:56:09,734
MARCELINE: Those are some
pretty advanced kids.
965
00:56:10,801 --> 00:56:11,802
Hey.
966
00:56:13,070 --> 00:56:14,371
Well, hi.
967
00:56:14,439 --> 00:56:16,741
I'll take him
from here, Vernon.
968
00:56:16,807 --> 00:56:20,611
I think you're needed back
at the pavilion, aren't you?
969
00:56:25,916 --> 00:56:28,586
MARCELINE: We also have
a large nursing staff.
970
00:56:28,653 --> 00:56:30,655
Of course we could
always use more.
971
00:56:30,721 --> 00:56:34,258
There are almost 300 children
here in Jonestown.
972
00:56:49,373 --> 00:56:50,374
DON: Tim.
973
00:56:51,976 --> 00:56:53,844
I'm cutting out.
Something's going on.
974
00:56:53,911 --> 00:56:55,580
-Okay.
-Come.
975
00:57:02,019 --> 00:57:06,123
Um, would you like
to see the dispensary?
976
00:57:06,190 --> 00:57:07,692
Uh, excuse me.
977
00:57:10,995 --> 00:57:12,096
(WOMAN WHIMPERING)
978
00:57:12,162 --> 00:57:13,998
WOMAN: No. You bring
those kids back here!
979
00:57:14,064 --> 00:57:15,099
Hold on for a second.
980
00:57:15,165 --> 00:57:17,702
You bring them back!
981
00:57:17,768 --> 00:57:19,737
Don't you touch my kids!
982
00:57:20,671 --> 00:57:22,406
REITERMAN: Within hours,
983
00:57:22,473 --> 00:57:24,475
um, it became clear
984
00:57:24,542 --> 00:57:29,013
that more than just
two people who slipped
the note to a reporter
985
00:57:29,079 --> 00:57:30,815
wanted to come out.
986
00:57:37,121 --> 00:57:39,223
There were
some entire families
987
00:57:39,289 --> 00:57:40,457
who stepped forward
988
00:57:40,525 --> 00:57:42,727
and informed the congressman
989
00:57:42,793 --> 00:57:45,129
that they wanted
to leave with us.
990
00:57:45,195 --> 00:57:47,865
I'm all right.
I'm... I'm just gonna...
991
00:57:48,799 --> 00:57:51,468
Just say goodbye to someone.
992
00:57:51,536 --> 00:57:53,638
And the tension
just radiated out
993
00:57:53,704 --> 00:57:58,075
from Jones and those groups
of potential defectors.
994
00:57:58,142 --> 00:58:01,045
The whole place was paralyzed.
995
00:58:04,882 --> 00:58:08,919
Stay put. I'm gonna
have a word with you later,
all right?
996
00:58:08,986 --> 00:58:10,487
Hey, don't go
anywhere right now.
997
00:58:10,555 --> 00:58:12,256
I wanna talk to you
and ask you some questions.
998
00:58:13,223 --> 00:58:14,859
(BOTH WHISPERING)
999
00:58:17,361 --> 00:58:19,630
Why are you doing this?
1000
00:58:19,697 --> 00:58:21,131
Are you lovers?
1001
00:58:21,198 --> 00:58:22,700
No. No.
1002
00:58:22,767 --> 00:58:26,403
Because you can have
a relationship here.
1003
00:58:26,470 --> 00:58:28,305
No. We're not lovers.
1004
00:58:28,372 --> 00:58:30,174
Don't you talk to any
of the reporters, all right?
1005
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,009
They're liars.
They're all liars.
1006
00:58:32,076 --> 00:58:33,510
You don't have
to say anything.
1007
00:58:33,578 --> 00:58:34,745
Even the ones who lie,
1008
00:58:34,812 --> 00:58:37,481
they always come back.
They always do.
1009
00:58:39,717 --> 00:58:41,719
Always have a place here.
1010
00:58:42,352 --> 00:58:44,254
All right?
1011
00:58:44,321 --> 00:58:45,790
GOSNEY: I signed a document
1012
00:58:45,856 --> 00:58:47,792
that I was leaving
my son there
1013
00:58:47,858 --> 00:58:49,259
of my own free will.
1014
00:58:49,326 --> 00:58:50,795
I didn't know
1015
00:58:51,829 --> 00:58:54,331
if I was doing
the right thing,
1016
00:58:54,398 --> 00:58:55,600
and...
1017
00:58:57,668 --> 00:58:59,103
I signed it.
1018
00:59:04,208 --> 00:59:06,410
How many you got, Congressman?
1019
00:59:08,979 --> 00:59:11,381
I think we're gonna
need another plane.
1020
00:59:11,448 --> 00:59:12,783
REITERMAN: As time went on,
1021
00:59:12,850 --> 00:59:15,185
probably about a dozen people
1022
00:59:15,252 --> 00:59:16,453
had stepped forward
1023
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,989
and they were insistent
on leaving.
1024
00:59:21,425 --> 00:59:23,761
My name is Monica Bagby.
1025
00:59:23,828 --> 00:59:26,931
I wish to leave Jonestown
of my own free will
1026
00:59:26,997 --> 00:59:29,333
and return
to the United States.
1027
00:59:30,267 --> 00:59:31,669
Is that it?
1028
00:59:32,837 --> 00:59:36,006
Um, my name is Vernon Gosney,
1029
00:59:36,506 --> 00:59:37,541
and I
1030
00:59:38,776 --> 00:59:42,579
wish to leave Jonestown
of my own free will
1031
00:59:43,648 --> 00:59:46,751
and return
to the United States.
1032
00:59:46,817 --> 00:59:48,786
GOSNEY: I was of
a divided mind.
1033
00:59:48,853 --> 00:59:51,455
On one hand,
I thought my son is black.
1034
00:59:51,521 --> 00:59:53,791
And he is going to be
subject to the racism
1035
00:59:53,858 --> 00:59:56,927
of the United
States government.
1036
00:59:56,994 --> 00:59:58,996
And I thought that
1037
00:59:59,063 --> 01:00:01,799
this was the better place
for him to be.
1038
01:00:03,868 --> 01:00:06,236
I didn't know.
I was confused.
1039
01:00:07,104 --> 01:00:09,006
What now?
1040
01:00:09,073 --> 01:00:11,709
Now, we pack up.
Truck's leaving soon.
1041
01:00:13,644 --> 01:00:15,045
I don't think
I ought to go alone.
1042
01:00:15,112 --> 01:00:16,681
I wouldn't either.
1043
01:00:16,747 --> 01:00:18,816
That lady said
she'd go with me.
1044
01:00:18,883 --> 01:00:20,317
You ought to get someone, too.
1045
01:00:30,695 --> 01:00:32,329
GOSNEY: When the door
swung open,
1046
01:00:32,396 --> 01:00:34,965
there was a number
of security guards
1047
01:00:35,032 --> 01:00:36,967
within the cottage.
1048
01:00:37,034 --> 01:00:40,537
I was petrified.
1049
01:00:40,604 --> 01:00:43,908
I was in extreme fear
and terror.
1050
01:01:03,928 --> 01:01:04,929
What you doing, Vern?
1051
01:01:05,963 --> 01:01:07,798
He's packing up.
1052
01:01:07,865 --> 01:01:09,399
What are you doing?
1053
01:01:11,568 --> 01:01:12,569
Go ahead, Vern.
1054
01:01:15,272 --> 01:01:16,907
Pack your things.
1055
01:01:55,913 --> 01:01:57,281
Thank you.
1056
01:01:58,916 --> 01:02:01,118
As the potential defectors
1057
01:02:01,185 --> 01:02:03,954
began gathering up
their belongings,
1058
01:02:04,021 --> 01:02:07,792
-NBC conducted an interview...
-Bob.
1059
01:02:07,858 --> 01:02:10,427
...with Jim Jones
in the pavilion.
1060
01:02:10,494 --> 01:02:12,930
Okay, Reverend.
We're ready to go.
1061
01:02:15,132 --> 01:02:19,003
Well, you never accomplish
what you set out.
I'm a perfectionist.
1062
01:02:19,069 --> 01:02:22,172
I mean, we wanted to fade out
of the whole arena
of public attention,
1063
01:02:22,239 --> 01:02:24,141
but, obviously, we haven't
because of lies.
1064
01:02:24,208 --> 01:02:28,612
I never... Never understood
how people could lie
1065
01:02:28,678 --> 01:02:32,149
with such total
freedom and conviction.
1066
01:02:32,216 --> 01:02:34,418
REITERMAN:
As the interview went on,
1067
01:02:35,419 --> 01:02:37,121
Jones grew
1068
01:02:37,187 --> 01:02:39,389
more and more tense.
1069
01:02:39,456 --> 01:02:42,692
That's a lie. That's a lie.
1070
01:02:42,759 --> 01:02:45,529
Who... Who conspired to kill
Dr. Martin Luther King?
1071
01:02:45,595 --> 01:02:48,098
Uh, Malcolm X? John Kennedy?
1072
01:02:48,165 --> 01:02:50,400
Every agency
in the whole government
1073
01:02:50,467 --> 01:02:51,969
is giving us a hard time.
1074
01:02:52,036 --> 01:02:54,671
Somebody just
doesn't like socialism.
1075
01:02:54,738 --> 01:02:57,174
REITERMAN:
I think it was sinking in,
1076
01:02:57,241 --> 01:02:58,775
if it hadn't already,
1077
01:02:58,843 --> 01:03:02,913
that this visit
was not going to play well
1078
01:03:02,980 --> 01:03:06,050
outside Jonestown.
1079
01:03:06,116 --> 01:03:09,486
DON: We've heard that
security guards with guns
1080
01:03:09,553 --> 01:03:11,655
had gone around to the houses
and warned people...
1081
01:03:11,721 --> 01:03:12,756
-No, no!
-...not to cause trouble.
1082
01:03:12,823 --> 01:03:14,658
Nobody came
to see people with guns!
1083
01:03:14,724 --> 01:03:16,726
I... I have strictly
prohibited guns.
1084
01:03:16,793 --> 01:03:18,896
You don't have to shoot me.
1085
01:03:20,064 --> 01:03:22,032
'Cause the media smear
does it.
1086
01:03:22,099 --> 01:03:25,169
I... I've given
my life for people,
1087
01:03:27,071 --> 01:03:28,705
serving people.
1088
01:03:32,943 --> 01:03:34,945
Now, you people gonna just...
1089
01:03:36,146 --> 01:03:37,681
Just leave us.
1090
01:03:39,316 --> 01:03:42,819
I just beg you.
Please just leave us.
1091
01:03:46,723 --> 01:03:49,093
I'm gonna go
say goodbye to them.
1092
01:03:57,734 --> 01:03:59,103
-WOMAN: Traitors!
-(PEOPLE PROTESTING)
1093
01:03:59,169 --> 01:04:00,404
MAN: Scum!
1094
01:04:00,470 --> 01:04:02,239
I hope they shoot
the plane down!
1095
01:04:02,306 --> 01:04:04,441
GOSNEY: I met
with my son briefly.
1096
01:04:05,375 --> 01:04:06,576
And...
1097
01:04:06,643 --> 01:04:08,812
I'll see you soon, okay?
1098
01:04:08,879 --> 01:04:10,247
Well, he wasn't of an age
where I could tell him
what was happening.
1099
01:04:10,314 --> 01:04:12,816
I just...
I hugged him. (SIGHS)
1100
01:04:14,551 --> 01:04:16,353
I said goodbye to him,
1101
01:04:16,420 --> 01:04:19,589
and that was the last time
that I saw him.
1102
01:04:19,656 --> 01:04:21,291
I, uh...
1103
01:04:26,330 --> 01:04:29,433
I don't know what else to say
about that moment.
1104
01:04:53,924 --> 01:04:56,193
Come back anytime.
1105
01:04:56,260 --> 01:04:58,595
You'll always
have a place here.
1106
01:04:58,662 --> 01:05:01,498
Come back anytime,
visit your son.
1107
01:05:03,033 --> 01:05:04,601
-Okay?
-Mmm-hmm.
1108
01:05:12,809 --> 01:05:14,511
Come back anytime.
1109
01:05:16,613 --> 01:05:18,315
You'll always be welcome here.
1110
01:05:33,463 --> 01:05:35,765
Reverend, can I just ask you?
1111
01:05:35,832 --> 01:05:39,836
Could I get your reaction
on what's gone on here today?
1112
01:05:39,903 --> 01:05:42,172
Did you try to stop anyone
from leaving?
1113
01:05:42,239 --> 01:05:43,740
No.
1114
01:05:43,807 --> 01:05:47,677
I feel sorry we're being
destroyed from within.
1115
01:05:47,744 --> 01:05:51,148
All we want is
to be left in peace.
1116
01:05:51,215 --> 01:05:53,317
REITERMAN: He looked
somewhat broken,
1117
01:05:53,383 --> 01:05:57,054
and crestfallen but angry.
1118
01:05:57,121 --> 01:05:59,289
And what he was saying really
1119
01:05:59,356 --> 01:06:01,891
was that the defections
1120
01:06:01,958 --> 01:06:06,030
by some of his members
were going to be the undoing
1121
01:06:06,096 --> 01:06:10,200
and the unmasking of Jim Jones
and Peoples Temple,
1122
01:06:10,267 --> 01:06:13,137
and what was going on
inside of Jonestown.
1123
01:06:18,775 --> 01:06:21,245
If we get out now,
I can still make deadline.
1124
01:06:21,311 --> 01:06:22,812
Where's Ryan?
1125
01:06:22,879 --> 01:06:25,849
He's staying back
to help with the rest
of the defectors.
1126
01:06:25,915 --> 01:06:27,884
You mean, there's more?
1127
01:06:27,951 --> 01:06:29,886
Yeah, only he's not saying so.
1128
01:06:29,953 --> 01:06:31,555
Thanks. (GRUNTS)
1129
01:06:35,659 --> 01:06:37,694
TIM: Everybody, ready?
1130
01:06:37,761 --> 01:06:40,397
LEO: Jim,
why are you so upset?
1131
01:06:40,464 --> 01:06:42,032
There are only 15 people
1132
01:06:42,099 --> 01:06:43,833
leaving out of nearly 1,000.
1133
01:06:44,268 --> 01:06:45,302
I mean,
1134
01:06:45,369 --> 01:06:47,271
if 400 people were leaving,
1135
01:06:47,337 --> 01:06:49,439
then I'd be worried.
1136
01:06:49,506 --> 01:06:51,275
Things were spiraling
out of control.
1137
01:06:51,341 --> 01:06:53,677
There was a crack
that had opened.
1138
01:06:53,743 --> 01:06:56,846
And the crack
was continuing to open.
1139
01:06:56,913 --> 01:06:58,682
Jones was losing control
1140
01:06:58,748 --> 01:07:02,018
and the whole community,
in my opinion,
1141
01:07:02,086 --> 01:07:04,888
was going to crack
open completely.
1142
01:07:04,954 --> 01:07:06,856
It's only 15 people.
1143
01:07:08,092 --> 01:07:09,326
When I get back,
1144
01:07:09,393 --> 01:07:10,894
I'm gonna report to Congress
1145
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:13,897
that of the 60 people cited
by the concerned relatives,
1146
01:07:13,963 --> 01:07:15,565
none of them wanted to leave!
1147
01:07:15,632 --> 01:07:18,068
They said they were
completely happy.
1148
01:07:18,135 --> 01:07:19,369
LARRY: Wait! Wait!
1149
01:07:21,171 --> 01:07:23,173
Hey. Room for one more?
1150
01:07:25,242 --> 01:07:27,444
There's no way
he's a defector.
1151
01:07:28,978 --> 01:07:29,979
-TIM: Come on.
-(GRUNTS)
1152
01:07:32,749 --> 01:07:34,651
Why are you leaving?
1153
01:07:34,718 --> 01:07:36,520
I'll tell you later.
1154
01:07:36,586 --> 01:07:37,921
All right.
1155
01:07:47,097 --> 01:07:48,498
Jim,
1156
01:07:48,565 --> 01:07:50,700
this is a wonderful thing
you've got going.
1157
01:07:50,767 --> 01:07:52,736
-(GASPS)
-(ALL SCREAMING)
1158
01:08:01,445 --> 01:08:02,812
MAN: I will kill him!
1159
01:08:02,879 --> 01:08:03,880
(BOTH GRUNT)
1160
01:08:09,986 --> 01:08:11,355
(GRUNTING)
1161
01:08:15,024 --> 01:08:17,261
-Well...
-It's not me.
1162
01:08:17,327 --> 01:08:21,498
I guess, um,
this changes things,
doesn't it?
1163
01:08:21,565 --> 01:08:22,899
(PANTING)
1164
01:08:24,934 --> 01:08:27,737
Some things,
but not everything.
1165
01:08:31,508 --> 01:08:33,343
REITERMAN: That convinced
the congressman
1166
01:08:33,410 --> 01:08:34,778
not to stay behind
1167
01:08:34,844 --> 01:08:37,381
and process
any more defectors,
1168
01:08:37,447 --> 01:08:39,483
that he needed
to leave with us
1169
01:08:39,549 --> 01:08:41,485
-on the truck.
-LEO: Thanks.
1170
01:08:41,551 --> 01:08:42,719
(MARCELINE SPEAKING
INDISTINCTLY ON PA)
1171
01:08:42,786 --> 01:08:45,255
Hey, you're bleeding,
Congressman.
1172
01:08:45,322 --> 01:08:46,690
-It isn't mine.
-MARCELINE:
Attention, everyone!
1173
01:08:46,756 --> 01:08:48,392
What happened?
1174
01:08:48,458 --> 01:08:49,993
A minor disagreement.
1175
01:08:50,059 --> 01:08:52,662
REITERMAN: We were
in serious danger.
1176
01:08:52,729 --> 01:08:53,830
Okay, let's roll!
1177
01:08:53,897 --> 01:08:55,565
Because the congressman
1178
01:08:55,632 --> 01:08:59,636
was in some ways
our protector.
1179
01:08:59,703 --> 01:09:04,174
To see him with blood
spattered on his shirt
from his assailant
1180
01:09:04,241 --> 01:09:05,942
and all disheveled
1181
01:09:06,009 --> 01:09:09,613
showed just how precarious
our situation was.
1182
01:09:09,679 --> 01:09:15,285
I think we wanted to move
as quickly as possible
down that dirt road
1183
01:09:15,352 --> 01:09:18,755
and get on a plane
with the defectors.
1184
01:09:21,425 --> 01:09:23,393
GOSNEY: When that truck
is pulling away,
1185
01:09:23,460 --> 01:09:25,695
I have no faith whatsoever
1186
01:09:25,762 --> 01:09:27,331
that we are ever
gonna get out of there.
1187
01:09:37,774 --> 01:09:39,809
HARRIS: Saturday,
November 18th,
1188
01:09:39,876 --> 01:09:42,178
I headed out
to Temple headquarters
1189
01:09:42,246 --> 01:09:44,814
in Lamaha Gardens
to see my daughter.
1190
01:09:47,684 --> 01:09:48,852
Liane.
1191
01:09:49,953 --> 01:09:51,221
Liane?
1192
01:09:51,288 --> 01:09:53,189
(FOOTSTEPS APPROACHING)
1193
01:09:59,629 --> 01:10:01,498
-(CHUCKLES) Hi.
-Hello.
1194
01:10:01,565 --> 01:10:03,900
-How are you doing?
-Good.
1195
01:10:03,967 --> 01:10:05,669
HARRIS: When I first
saw Liane,
1196
01:10:05,735 --> 01:10:07,704
it was like nothing
was between us.
1197
01:10:07,771 --> 01:10:09,773
Come inside.
We're just about to sit down.
1198
01:10:09,839 --> 01:10:12,942
We hugged, you know,
and kissed and...
1199
01:10:13,009 --> 01:10:16,380
It was just, uh, it was just
wonderful to see her.
1200
01:10:16,446 --> 01:10:18,882
I wish you could see
the wonderful work,
1201
01:10:18,948 --> 01:10:20,417
the great work that we do.
1202
01:10:20,484 --> 01:10:23,487
You'd see there's nothing
to be concerned about.
1203
01:10:23,553 --> 01:10:26,490
And I know she felt
the same way to see me.
1204
01:10:26,556 --> 01:10:29,125
How long are you thinking
of staying?
1205
01:10:30,226 --> 01:10:31,728
A couple of weeks.
1206
01:10:31,795 --> 01:10:34,798
Maybe even a month.
We could tour around.
1207
01:10:34,864 --> 01:10:36,866
You could show me things.
1208
01:10:39,403 --> 01:10:42,739
Why don't you two
sit down to dinner?
1209
01:10:42,806 --> 01:10:45,275
Everything's in the kitchen.
1210
01:10:45,342 --> 01:10:46,410
I won't be a minute.
1211
01:10:53,249 --> 01:10:55,585
It is so good
to see you, Liane.
1212
01:10:57,220 --> 01:10:58,688
It's been hard.
1213
01:11:00,490 --> 01:11:02,859
And I... I...
1214
01:11:02,926 --> 01:11:05,562
I just wanna get
to know you again,
1215
01:11:05,629 --> 01:11:07,063
and you me.
1216
01:11:07,797 --> 01:11:09,065
Would that be...
1217
01:11:09,132 --> 01:11:11,134
Would that be all right?
1218
01:11:13,537 --> 01:11:16,072
You must be hungry.
(LAUGHS) Come on.
1219
01:11:16,139 --> 01:11:17,807
(RADIO FEEDBACK)
1220
01:11:29,619 --> 01:11:31,421
JIM: (ON RADIO) Please.
1221
01:11:31,488 --> 01:11:34,223
Please take care
of everyone there.
1222
01:11:34,290 --> 01:11:35,792
Everyone, Jim?
1223
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:38,562
Everybody.
1224
01:11:39,596 --> 01:11:43,099
Georgetown, everybody.
1225
01:11:45,001 --> 01:11:47,203
Relatives, too.
1226
01:11:47,270 --> 01:11:48,605
Just take revenge.
1227
01:11:53,810 --> 01:11:57,213
I'll have to tell the others.
1228
01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:58,848
JONES: Things were
going bad.
1229
01:11:58,915 --> 01:12:00,484
We'd been ordered
to get revenge.
1230
01:12:00,550 --> 01:12:04,220
Revenge meant
go out and kill people.
1231
01:12:04,287 --> 01:12:06,022
Concerned relatives first,
1232
01:12:06,089 --> 01:12:08,525
maybe members
of the Congressman's party,
1233
01:12:08,592 --> 01:12:10,894
but those
who had turned against us
1234
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:13,397
would have been considered
the worst enemies.
1235
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:18,968
It just took one spark.
1236
01:12:19,703 --> 01:12:21,805
It's time. It's time.
1237
01:12:21,871 --> 01:12:25,241
One thread of insanity
to unravel the whole works.
1238
01:12:27,143 --> 01:12:28,712
(SIREN WAILING)
1239
01:12:33,683 --> 01:12:36,319
White Night. White Night.
1240
01:12:38,054 --> 01:12:41,157
Everybody report
to the pavilion immediately.
1241
01:12:41,891 --> 01:12:43,292
White Night.
1242
01:12:44,394 --> 01:12:45,729
White Night.
1243
01:12:45,795 --> 01:12:48,197
Everybody report
to the pavilion immediately.
1244
01:12:48,264 --> 01:12:49,666
White Night.
1245
01:13:10,386 --> 01:13:11,455
SHERWIN: It was heavy.
1246
01:13:11,521 --> 01:13:13,289
So I'm pulling
and I'm pulling.
1247
01:13:13,356 --> 01:13:15,224
I'm reeling it in.
1248
01:13:15,291 --> 01:13:17,293
And finally, I yank it up.
1249
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:18,361
It's a tire.
1250
01:13:18,428 --> 01:13:19,796
-Oh.
-(ALL LAUGHING)
1251
01:13:19,863 --> 01:13:22,398
I caught a tire. (LAUGHS)
Just like in the movies.
1252
01:13:22,466 --> 01:13:24,934
And here I am,
Buster Keaton looking at it.
1253
01:13:25,869 --> 01:13:29,773
Liane?
There's a call for you.
1254
01:13:37,981 --> 01:13:39,282
JONES: We had just
gotten the message
1255
01:13:39,348 --> 01:13:40,784
and Liane came down.
1256
01:13:40,850 --> 01:13:42,418
Liane was having dinner
with her father.
1257
01:13:42,486 --> 01:13:44,988
And Liane was told by Sharon.
1258
01:13:53,329 --> 01:13:54,698
Uh, Liane.
1259
01:13:58,468 --> 01:14:00,704
The order's just come through.
1260
01:14:02,872 --> 01:14:04,407
We have to die.
1261
01:14:07,343 --> 01:14:08,678
Okay.
1262
01:14:08,745 --> 01:14:11,948
JONES: She very calmly
took the news
1263
01:14:12,015 --> 01:14:15,585
and I was just struck by that.
1264
01:14:15,652 --> 01:14:17,286
Oh, this is really real
1265
01:14:17,353 --> 01:14:20,790
and... And how surreal
that was.
1266
01:14:20,857 --> 01:14:22,391
LIANE: Should I go
back to dinner?
1267
01:14:24,193 --> 01:14:27,030
You'd better have him leave,
your father.
1268
01:14:30,399 --> 01:14:34,838
This is a 21-year-old girl
1269
01:14:34,904 --> 01:14:36,472
who has just been told,
1270
01:14:36,540 --> 01:14:38,007
"End the dinner
with your father
1271
01:14:38,074 --> 01:14:41,010
"because we're gonna
have to kill ourselves,"
in so many words.
1272
01:14:41,811 --> 01:14:43,012
And I was just...
1273
01:14:43,079 --> 01:14:47,450
I was overwhelmed
with fear at that point.
1274
01:14:47,517 --> 01:14:49,218
Just dread and fear
1275
01:14:49,285 --> 01:14:51,988
of what must be going down
at Jonestown.
1276
01:14:54,157 --> 01:14:56,059
NARRATOR: A large shipment
of the liquid poison
1277
01:14:56,125 --> 01:14:57,927
potassium cyanide
1278
01:14:57,994 --> 01:15:00,029
had been delivered
earlier to Jonestown.
1279
01:15:01,264 --> 01:15:02,632
The cyanide was now
1280
01:15:02,699 --> 01:15:04,701
mixed with sedatives
and tranquilizers
1281
01:15:04,768 --> 01:15:07,303
and added to
a fruit-flavored drink.
1282
01:15:09,906 --> 01:15:12,108
JONES: I think that for Dad
1283
01:15:12,175 --> 01:15:14,944
to have just gone
and found a room somewhere
1284
01:15:15,011 --> 01:15:16,445
and shot himself.
1285
01:15:16,512 --> 01:15:18,081
One,
1286
01:15:18,147 --> 01:15:21,050
I don't think he was capable
of shooting himself.
1287
01:15:21,117 --> 01:15:24,020
Two, I don't think
he could bear to go alone.
1288
01:15:24,087 --> 01:15:26,956
His view of existence
was so bleak
1289
01:15:27,023 --> 01:15:30,459
that he thought
it was best for everyone
to check out.
1290
01:15:35,131 --> 01:15:37,466
A handful of people
with their lies
1291
01:15:37,533 --> 01:15:39,468
have made our life impossible.
1292
01:15:41,370 --> 01:15:43,873
And we are sitting
on a powder keg here.
1293
01:15:43,940 --> 01:15:45,341
And I don't think that
1294
01:15:45,408 --> 01:15:48,177
this is what we want
to do with our babies,
you know.
1295
01:15:55,852 --> 01:15:57,721
It has been said
1296
01:15:57,787 --> 01:16:01,825
by the greatest of prophets
from time immemorial,
1297
01:16:01,891 --> 01:16:06,062
no man may take
my life from me,
1298
01:16:06,129 --> 01:16:07,631
but I lay my life down.
1299
01:16:07,697 --> 01:16:09,265
(ALL CHEERING)
1300
01:16:22,912 --> 01:16:25,048
We have been betrayed and...
1301
01:16:26,182 --> 01:16:28,918
We have been
so horribly betrayed.
1302
01:16:28,985 --> 01:16:30,820
Now, now,
here's what's gonna happen
1303
01:16:30,887 --> 01:16:32,756
in a matter of
a few minutes
1304
01:16:32,822 --> 01:16:34,423
is that one of the people
1305
01:16:34,490 --> 01:16:36,492
on the plane is gonna...
1306
01:16:37,961 --> 01:16:40,129
Is gonna shoot the pilot.
1307
01:16:41,831 --> 01:16:44,600
And down comes the plane
into the jungle.
1308
01:16:44,668 --> 01:16:47,536
And we had better not
have any of our children left
1309
01:16:47,603 --> 01:16:48,838
when it is over,
1310
01:16:48,905 --> 01:16:51,540
because they will parachute
in here on us.
1311
01:16:58,848 --> 01:17:02,551
GOSNEY: When we got
to the airstrip,
1312
01:17:02,618 --> 01:17:07,090
I still had this feeling
of impending doom,
1313
01:17:07,156 --> 01:17:09,492
that something
was gonna happen.
1314
01:17:14,163 --> 01:17:16,299
REITERMAN: As people
were boarding,
1315
01:17:16,365 --> 01:17:19,302
a tractor-load of men
1316
01:17:19,368 --> 01:17:21,004
returned to the airstrip.
1317
01:17:21,070 --> 01:17:23,873
It was clear to me that
there was no real reason
1318
01:17:23,940 --> 01:17:25,641
for them to be coming back.
1319
01:17:25,709 --> 01:17:28,211
There might well be trouble.
1320
01:17:28,277 --> 01:17:30,513
GOSNEY: It was decided that
Monica and myself
1321
01:17:30,579 --> 01:17:32,215
were gonna go
onto the small plane,
1322
01:17:32,281 --> 01:17:34,984
so that plane
was boarded first.
1323
01:17:35,051 --> 01:17:36,419
LEO: Sorry about this, folks.
1324
01:17:36,485 --> 01:17:38,621
-I'm sorry,
but let's get safe.
-Turn.
1325
01:17:38,688 --> 01:17:40,156
Get on the plane.
1326
01:17:40,223 --> 01:17:44,360
We wanted to make sure
that nobody was getting on
1327
01:17:44,427 --> 01:17:47,496
either of these two planes
with weapons
1328
01:17:47,563 --> 01:17:51,400
because we didn't really know
whether the defectors
1329
01:17:51,467 --> 01:17:53,236
in fact were defectors.
1330
01:18:03,212 --> 01:18:05,681
Hey, Congressman,
I didn't search him.
1331
01:18:05,749 --> 01:18:08,651
Uh, excuse me. Excuse me.
Uh, just a moment, please.
1332
01:18:08,718 --> 01:18:11,054
Uh, what's your name?
1333
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:12,756
LARRY: Larry... Larry Layton.
LEO: Larry Layton.
1334
01:18:14,523 --> 01:18:15,558
Everybody, okay?
1335
01:18:15,624 --> 01:18:17,226
He shouldn't have been
allowed to come with.
1336
01:18:17,293 --> 01:18:18,561
Someone said
he might have a gun.
1337
01:18:18,627 --> 01:18:20,429
Ryan's checking him.
All right?
1338
01:18:24,834 --> 01:18:27,270
He's not gonna
let us leave here.
1339
01:18:27,336 --> 01:18:28,972
Jones, I mean.
1340
01:18:29,038 --> 01:18:31,808
No, we'll be in the air
in five minutes.
1341
01:18:33,709 --> 01:18:35,979
Thank you.
Have a good flight.
1342
01:18:43,352 --> 01:18:44,720
When do I pick
you up tomorrow?
1343
01:18:44,788 --> 01:18:47,123
-Tomorrow?
-Yeah.
1344
01:18:47,190 --> 01:18:49,458
-Ah. (LAUGHS)
-(LAUGHS)
1345
01:18:49,525 --> 01:18:50,860
Whenever you like.
1346
01:18:50,927 --> 01:18:53,129
I like 7:00 in the morning.
1347
01:18:53,596 --> 01:18:54,998
Okay.
1348
01:18:55,064 --> 01:18:57,333
-Good. Liane.
-Okay.
1349
01:18:57,400 --> 01:18:59,368
This is bullshit, man!
1350
01:19:01,170 --> 01:19:02,405
JONES: I needed
to get away from it.
1351
01:19:02,471 --> 01:19:04,740
I needed to find out
more information,
1352
01:19:04,808 --> 01:19:06,709
maybe gather ourselves.
1353
01:19:08,677 --> 01:19:11,214
And with the hope that
we would learn something
1354
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:13,649
other than the madness
1355
01:19:13,716 --> 01:19:16,920
we were hearing from Sharon.
1356
01:19:16,986 --> 01:19:19,022
HARRIS:
My ex-wife came out
from downstairs
1357
01:19:19,088 --> 01:19:21,224
where the radio room was,
1358
01:19:21,290 --> 01:19:23,426
and kissed me goodbye
on the cheek.
1359
01:19:24,193 --> 01:19:26,129
I just wanna thank you.
1360
01:19:27,964 --> 01:19:29,498
And when she
kissed me goodbye,
1361
01:19:29,565 --> 01:19:32,601
that was the...
That was really goodbye.
1362
01:19:37,773 --> 01:19:40,877
You know, I was feeling
rather buoyant overall.
1363
01:19:40,944 --> 01:19:42,645
You know, we had plans
for the next day.
1364
01:19:42,711 --> 01:19:44,914
I felt we were
making certain inroads.
1365
01:19:44,981 --> 01:19:47,583
I think they got...
I felt they got the message.
1366
01:19:49,652 --> 01:19:51,020
See ya tomorrow,
7:00 a.m.
1367
01:19:51,087 --> 01:19:52,088
Okay.
1368
01:19:52,155 --> 01:19:53,756
Pegasus Hotel, please.
1369
01:19:53,823 --> 01:19:55,291
So I felt very upbeat
1370
01:19:55,358 --> 01:19:58,094
and I felt that
we were making progress.
1371
01:20:28,124 --> 01:20:30,693
LEO: Okay, let's start
getting back on the plane.
We'll be fine.
1372
01:20:30,759 --> 01:20:32,095
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
1373
01:20:36,099 --> 01:20:37,867
MAN: Everybody, spread out!
1374
01:20:37,934 --> 01:20:39,635
-(GUNSHOTS)
-MAN: Spread out!
1375
01:20:39,702 --> 01:20:40,803
Spread out!
1376
01:20:44,941 --> 01:20:46,409
(INDISTINCT GROANING)
1377
01:20:50,246 --> 01:20:51,847
They're killing everyone!
1378
01:20:53,149 --> 01:20:55,251
-(GIRL SCREAMING)
-(GRUNTS)
1379
01:20:59,622 --> 01:21:01,224
(GIRL SCREAMING)
1380
01:21:09,232 --> 01:21:10,566
(GUNSHOTS)
1381
01:21:15,738 --> 01:21:17,140
(GUNSHOTS CONTINUE)
1382
01:21:21,710 --> 01:21:23,046
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
1383
01:21:45,868 --> 01:21:46,936
(GROANS)
1384
01:22:00,649 --> 01:22:01,784
Oh, shit!
1385
01:22:02,551 --> 01:22:03,552
(SOBBING)
1386
01:22:04,820 --> 01:22:07,156
The gunfire died down.
1387
01:22:08,291 --> 01:22:09,858
Then there were several
1388
01:22:10,659 --> 01:22:13,262
deliberate shots
1389
01:22:14,197 --> 01:22:15,831
over the space of
1390
01:22:17,700 --> 01:22:19,068
maybe a half-minute.
1391
01:22:25,408 --> 01:22:26,575
(GUNSHOT)
1392
01:22:29,678 --> 01:22:30,879
(GUNSHOTS)
1393
01:22:32,815 --> 01:22:35,684
REITERMAN: And then
there was silence.
1394
01:22:38,554 --> 01:22:42,458
JIM: Anyone who has
any dissenting opinion,
please speak.
1395
01:22:44,393 --> 01:22:45,761
Yes, Christine.
1396
01:22:47,830 --> 01:22:50,333
Well, I feel like,
1397
01:22:50,399 --> 01:22:53,302
that, as long as there's life,
there's hope.
1398
01:22:54,770 --> 01:22:57,640
JIM: Someday everybody dies.
1399
01:22:57,706 --> 01:23:01,144
Someday that hope runs out
and I'd just like to
1400
01:23:01,210 --> 01:23:03,946
choose my own
kind of a death for a change.
1401
01:23:04,013 --> 01:23:06,582
I'm tired of being
tormented to hell.
1402
01:23:06,649 --> 01:23:08,584
That's what I'm tired of.
1403
01:23:08,651 --> 01:23:10,519
(CHEERING AND APPLAUDING)
1404
01:23:14,323 --> 01:23:15,791
CHRISTINE:
I ain't ready to die.
1405
01:23:15,858 --> 01:23:18,094
I don't think that you are.
1406
01:23:18,161 --> 01:23:22,665
But, uh, I look about
at the babies and I think,
1407
01:23:22,731 --> 01:23:25,068
"They deserve to live,"
you know?
1408
01:23:25,134 --> 01:23:28,604
Yeah, I agree.
I agree, but don't they
also deserve much more?
1409
01:23:28,671 --> 01:23:30,339
Don't they deserve peace?
1410
01:23:30,406 --> 01:23:31,740
(CROWD AGREEING)
1411
01:23:34,110 --> 01:23:35,978
We all came here for peace.
1412
01:23:36,045 --> 01:23:38,414
-And have we had it?
-No.
1413
01:23:39,482 --> 01:23:41,417
Just hold on, sister.
1414
01:23:41,484 --> 01:23:43,852
We made it a beautiful day
and let's make it
a beautiful day.
1415
01:23:43,919 --> 01:23:45,088
That's what I say.
1416
01:23:45,154 --> 01:23:47,990
(CHEERING)
1417
01:23:48,057 --> 01:23:51,260
I've tried. I've tried to stop
this thing from happening,
1418
01:23:51,327 --> 01:23:54,063
but now I see,
I see it is the will,
1419
01:23:54,130 --> 01:23:56,799
the will of sovereign being
that this happened to us,
1420
01:23:56,865 --> 01:23:59,034
that we lay down our lives
1421
01:23:59,102 --> 01:24:03,139
as a protest against
what is being done.
1422
01:24:03,206 --> 01:24:05,674
You know,
the criminality of people,
1423
01:24:05,741 --> 01:24:08,577
-the cruelty of people.
-(CROWD AGREEING)
1424
01:24:08,644 --> 01:24:11,780
I just know,
I know there is no point,
1425
01:24:11,847 --> 01:24:13,382
there is no point to this.
1426
01:24:18,687 --> 01:24:21,624
JIM: What comes now, folks?
What comes now?
1427
01:24:25,428 --> 01:24:26,695
(WHISPERING)
1428
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:40,243
It's all over.
1429
01:24:40,309 --> 01:24:42,145
The congressman
has been murdered.
1430
01:24:47,783 --> 01:24:52,755
Sharon Amos was one
of the small percentage of
1431
01:24:52,821 --> 01:24:57,092
the Temple membership
that I viewed as a zealot.
1432
01:25:03,065 --> 01:25:06,569
And, um, certainly
by the end days
1433
01:25:06,635 --> 01:25:09,972
she was every bit as
sick as my father was.
1434
01:25:10,839 --> 01:25:12,475
(CHILDREN GIGGLE)
1435
01:25:16,645 --> 01:25:19,282
I know that woman
loved her children dearly.
1436
01:25:20,783 --> 01:25:22,751
Go see Mommy.
1437
01:25:22,818 --> 01:25:26,922
And this is in no way
an explanation or an excuse
or a defense of what she did.
1438
01:25:26,989 --> 01:25:28,391
But for her,
1439
01:25:30,493 --> 01:25:32,161
she thought she
was saving them.
1440
01:25:34,497 --> 01:25:37,333
JIM: If we give them
our children,
1441
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:41,704
then our children
will suffer forever.
1442
01:25:41,770 --> 01:25:43,506
(CROW AGREEING)
1443
01:25:43,572 --> 01:25:46,842
-We win.
We win when we go down.
-(CROWD APPLAUDING)
1444
01:25:48,777 --> 01:25:52,415
Paul said, "I was a man
born out of due season."
1445
01:25:52,481 --> 01:25:56,585
Well, I've been born
out of due season,
just like we all have.
1446
01:25:56,652 --> 01:26:01,724
And the best testimony
we can make is to leave
this goddamn world.
1447
01:26:01,790 --> 01:26:03,125
(CROWD AGREEING)
1448
01:26:06,929 --> 01:26:08,697
CHILD: (YELLS) Mama!
1449
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:12,701
Mama!
1450
01:26:18,173 --> 01:26:20,142
JIM: What a legacy.
1451
01:26:20,209 --> 01:26:22,978
They invaded our privacy,
1452
01:26:23,045 --> 01:26:24,513
they come into our home,
1453
01:26:24,580 --> 01:26:27,750
they followed us
6,000 miles away.
1454
01:26:27,816 --> 01:26:29,318
Get us some medication.
1455
01:26:29,385 --> 01:26:30,453
It's simple.
1456
01:26:30,519 --> 01:26:32,255
There's no convulsions
with it.
1457
01:26:32,321 --> 01:26:35,524
It's just simple.
Just please get some.
1458
01:26:35,591 --> 01:26:38,461
JONES: You know,
so much of it feels like fate.
1459
01:26:38,527 --> 01:26:40,529
Every possible ingredient
1460
01:26:40,596 --> 01:26:43,732
that could be thrown into this
disastrous recipe
1461
01:26:43,799 --> 01:26:45,834
was thrown in there.
1462
01:26:45,901 --> 01:26:48,804
You've got my father who was
already unraveling.
1463
01:26:48,871 --> 01:26:51,907
Are you gonna separate
yourself from who shot
the congressman?
1464
01:26:51,974 --> 01:26:54,743
-I don't know who shot him.
-(CHEERING AND APPLAUDING)
1465
01:26:55,611 --> 01:26:58,113
And you've got a demoralized,
1466
01:26:58,180 --> 01:27:01,817
malnourished,
exhausted populous.
1467
01:27:01,884 --> 01:27:04,320
And the people of Jonestown
were just...
1468
01:27:04,387 --> 01:27:08,924
They were also crazy
on some level
because of the...
1469
01:27:10,259 --> 01:27:12,828
What they had been put through
by my father.
1470
01:27:13,662 --> 01:27:14,863
JIM: It's just simple.
1471
01:27:14,930 --> 01:27:17,833
Just please get some,
just get it.
1472
01:27:20,836 --> 01:27:22,204
JONES: And then who were
the first to die?
1473
01:27:22,271 --> 01:27:24,106
The children were
the first to die.
1474
01:27:24,172 --> 01:27:27,142
-CHILD: I don't want to!
-(BABY CRYING)
1475
01:27:27,209 --> 01:27:29,612
JIM: All they're doing
is taking a drink.
1476
01:27:29,678 --> 01:27:31,914
(CHILDREN CRYING)
1477
01:27:31,980 --> 01:27:34,883
JIM: The Guyana Defense
Force will be here,
I am telling you.
1478
01:27:34,950 --> 01:27:37,786
Get moving, get moving,
get moving.
1479
01:27:39,221 --> 01:27:41,590
I'm sure many people believed
that they were lost,
1480
01:27:41,657 --> 01:27:43,392
that they were going
to come in with force
1481
01:27:43,459 --> 01:27:45,093
and their children were
gonna be taken from them
1482
01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:49,131
and they were gonna die
or suffer greatly.
1483
01:27:49,197 --> 01:27:51,133
All they're doing
is taking a drink.
1484
01:27:51,199 --> 01:27:53,969
WOMAN: (YELLS) No! No!
JIM: They're taking...
1485
01:27:54,036 --> 01:27:57,105
Mother, Mother, please!
Mother, Mother,
please! Mother!
1486
01:27:57,172 --> 01:27:58,674
(CHILD CRYING)
1487
01:28:00,709 --> 01:28:04,112
CHILD: Mommy, what's happening
to everybody?
1488
01:28:04,179 --> 01:28:07,383
Can some people assure
these kids of the relaxation
1489
01:28:07,450 --> 01:28:09,418
of stepping over
to the next plane?
1490
01:28:09,485 --> 01:28:11,587
They set an example
for the others.
1491
01:28:15,391 --> 01:28:18,894
They take it and fall asleep.
That's what death is, sleep.
1492
01:28:20,829 --> 01:28:23,065
JONES: And even those
that still wanted
to get out of it,
1493
01:28:23,131 --> 01:28:25,133
where were they
gonna go at that point?
1494
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:26,902
How were they
going to get out of it?
1495
01:28:28,837 --> 01:28:30,806
It's about more than,
1496
01:28:32,174 --> 01:28:33,976
you know, Jim Jones saying,
1497
01:28:34,042 --> 01:28:36,579
"Line up and take the poison,
it's time to go."
1498
01:28:37,279 --> 01:28:39,081
JIM: Oh, my God.
1499
01:28:40,549 --> 01:28:42,150
Oh, my God.
1500
01:28:46,088 --> 01:28:48,924
WOMAN: No! No! No!
1501
01:28:51,226 --> 01:28:52,227
No!
1502
01:28:52,895 --> 01:28:54,129
No!
1503
01:28:54,196 --> 01:28:55,498
(GROANS)
1504
01:28:55,564 --> 01:28:56,965
WOMAN: Don't!
1505
01:29:03,639 --> 01:29:04,907
(SOBBING)
1506
01:29:24,326 --> 01:29:26,094
JIM: Lay down your burden.
1507
01:29:26,161 --> 01:29:28,063
Don't be afraid to die.
1508
01:29:29,665 --> 01:29:32,367
Jim told me to go.
1509
01:29:32,435 --> 01:29:36,939
He wants me to tell the world
what happened here, okay?
1510
01:29:37,005 --> 01:29:38,441
The truth of it.
1511
01:29:38,507 --> 01:29:40,876
JIM: I'm not gonna let them
take your child.
1512
01:29:40,943 --> 01:29:43,211
Would you let them
take your child?
1513
01:29:43,278 --> 01:29:46,314
Please, please,
please, please.
1514
01:29:46,381 --> 01:29:48,651
Please, please, please,
please, please.
1515
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:05,961
(GROANING)
1516
01:31:09,632 --> 01:31:11,967
REITERMAN: After a while,
1517
01:31:12,034 --> 01:31:16,238
I stood and started
to work my way back
1518
01:31:16,304 --> 01:31:17,973
to the airstrip.
1519
01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:22,310
I wanted to see what had
happened to everyone else.
1520
01:31:45,968 --> 01:31:50,906
I saw several bodies
on the ground.
1521
01:31:50,973 --> 01:31:55,578
It appeared from the wounds
of some of them
1522
01:31:55,644 --> 01:31:59,514
that Temple members
had gone around
1523
01:31:59,582 --> 01:32:05,153
and finished them off
with shots to the head.
1524
01:32:08,691 --> 01:32:11,226
-(CAMERA CLICKING)
-Don Harris of NBC,
1525
01:32:15,130 --> 01:32:16,531
Congressman Ryan,
1526
01:32:20,135 --> 01:32:23,538
Greg Robinson,
the photographer with me,
1527
01:32:26,241 --> 01:32:29,578
Bob Brown of NBC,
1528
01:32:29,645 --> 01:32:31,647
Patricia Parks,
1529
01:32:31,714 --> 01:32:34,950
one of the defectors,
all of them were dead.
1530
01:32:40,823 --> 01:32:44,326
NARRATOR: During the ambush
at the airstrip,
five people were murdered,
1531
01:32:44,392 --> 01:32:47,029
including
Congressman Leo Ryan.
1532
01:32:47,095 --> 01:32:49,431
Eleven others were
wounded but survived
1533
01:32:49,497 --> 01:32:52,367
including Ryan's aid,
Jackie Speier,
1534
01:32:52,434 --> 01:32:54,703
and defector, Monica Bagby.
1535
01:32:54,770 --> 01:32:58,440
Jones sent gunmen
to the airstrip
1536
01:32:58,506 --> 01:33:02,144
to kill the congressman
and others
1537
01:33:02,210 --> 01:33:05,113
so that he could
then turn to his followers
1538
01:33:05,180 --> 01:33:10,452
and say, "No country,
no place wants us any longer
1539
01:33:10,518 --> 01:33:13,856
"because some of our people
have now killed
a congressman.
1540
01:33:15,891 --> 01:33:17,025
"There is no hope."
1541
01:33:21,897 --> 01:33:25,968
JONES: Till the last
possible minute,
you cling to hope
1542
01:33:26,034 --> 01:33:28,336
that people are alive.
1543
01:33:28,403 --> 01:33:31,907
And a young woman came out
1544
01:33:31,974 --> 01:33:36,979
and walked up to me and said
Sharon's killed herself
and killed her children.
1545
01:33:39,081 --> 01:33:42,317
She believed that her children
were going to be taken
1546
01:33:42,384 --> 01:33:44,787
to horrible circumstances
1547
01:33:45,854 --> 01:33:48,356
and that death
1548
01:33:49,624 --> 01:33:51,626
was better for them.
1549
01:33:54,296 --> 01:33:57,165
As I opened the door,
the first thing I saw was
1550
01:33:59,201 --> 01:34:00,903
the babies and...
1551
01:34:02,270 --> 01:34:05,040
And, you know, they were dead,
1552
01:34:05,107 --> 01:34:07,309
clearly dead, clearly gone.
1553
01:34:07,375 --> 01:34:08,443
It was just,
1554
01:34:09,812 --> 01:34:10,813
just horrible.
1555
01:34:12,247 --> 01:34:15,918
And Liane wanted so much
to please her mother.
1556
01:34:17,085 --> 01:34:19,587
The love of a daughter
for a mother,
1557
01:34:20,889 --> 01:34:22,691
there's probably
nothing like it
1558
01:34:22,758 --> 01:34:24,459
and what I learned later
1559
01:34:26,061 --> 01:34:27,162
was that
1560
01:34:28,530 --> 01:34:30,165
they actually killed
each other
1561
01:34:31,533 --> 01:34:33,235
by slitting
each other's throats.
1562
01:34:38,874 --> 01:34:41,309
GOSNEY: I came to
several hours later,
1563
01:34:41,376 --> 01:34:44,679
and I knew it was
several hours later
because it was dark.
1564
01:34:46,548 --> 01:34:49,617
I could hear people
walking through the bushes.
1565
01:34:51,153 --> 01:34:54,122
What it was, in fact,
was people looking
for survivors.
1566
01:35:08,536 --> 01:35:12,174
NARRATOR: Only a handful
of Temple members
inside Jonestown survived.
1567
01:35:13,241 --> 01:35:15,778
Some escaped into the jungle.
1568
01:35:15,844 --> 01:35:20,148
Seventy-six-year-old
Hyacinth Thrash
had hidden under her bed.
1569
01:36:49,137 --> 01:36:51,106
JONES: I lost
everything that day.
1570
01:36:51,173 --> 01:36:54,676
I lost brothers and sisters
and dear friends,
1571
01:36:54,742 --> 01:36:57,045
people I'd known
my entire life
1572
01:36:57,112 --> 01:36:59,882
and the dearest person
on the planet to me,
which was my mother.
1573
01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:06,454
She resisted
1574
01:37:07,755 --> 01:37:09,791
and physically restrained,
1575
01:37:09,858 --> 01:37:11,359
um...
1576
01:37:11,426 --> 01:37:13,795
Until the last child died.
1577
01:37:13,862 --> 01:37:16,464
And then she walked up
and took the poison herself.
1578
01:37:21,036 --> 01:37:25,273
My father, oh, I can tell you,
I've never grieved his death.
1579
01:37:25,340 --> 01:37:28,610
I remember feeling
disgust that
1580
01:37:28,676 --> 01:37:31,046
he didn't go the way
everybody else went.
1581
01:37:31,113 --> 01:37:33,448
Not only did he have
to be shot in the head,
1582
01:37:33,515 --> 01:37:35,951
but he had to have
somebody else do it,
1583
01:37:36,018 --> 01:37:38,586
and I still believe it was
because he couldn't bear
1584
01:37:38,653 --> 01:37:41,289
to go out the way he was
seeing other people go out.
1585
01:37:44,492 --> 01:37:46,394
(PLANE ENGINE WHIRRING)
1586
01:37:54,769 --> 01:37:58,540
HARRIS: For the entire
incident, I blame Jim Jones.
1587
01:38:00,042 --> 01:38:03,445
It's as if he was determined
1588
01:38:03,511 --> 01:38:06,248
to make sure nobody won.
1589
01:38:06,314 --> 01:38:09,051
If he wasn't gonna win,
nobody was gonna win.
1590
01:38:11,353 --> 01:38:14,322
GOSNEY: The people that died
in Jonestown were my family.
1591
01:38:15,958 --> 01:38:18,360
And they were my family
1592
01:38:18,426 --> 01:38:21,129
when my family
wasn't my family.
1593
01:38:21,196 --> 01:38:22,297
And they're all just...
1594
01:38:23,731 --> 01:38:28,003
Just really wonderful,
good people
1595
01:38:28,070 --> 01:38:31,106
who wanted to make a positive
change in the world.
1596
01:38:34,576 --> 01:38:36,444
REITERMAN: One of the myths
1597
01:38:37,179 --> 01:38:38,981
of Jonestown
1598
01:38:39,047 --> 01:38:42,450
was that it was
a mass suicide,
1599
01:38:43,618 --> 01:38:46,421
whereas in fact it was
a mass murder.
1600
01:38:46,488 --> 01:38:49,424
They lie, they lie.
What can I do about liars?
1601
01:38:49,491 --> 01:38:53,695
You people just leave us,
I just beg you,
please leave us.
1602
01:38:53,761 --> 01:38:55,897
REITERMAN:
It happened because
1603
01:38:55,964 --> 01:38:58,166
Jim Jones didn't want
1604
01:38:58,233 --> 01:39:01,269
word to get out
to the outside world
1605
01:39:02,504 --> 01:39:05,473
what was going on
inside his community.
1606
01:39:07,009 --> 01:39:10,312
He didn't want the defectors
to tell their stories,
1607
01:39:10,378 --> 01:39:14,049
and he didn't want
the reporters to tell
their stories
1608
01:39:14,116 --> 01:39:17,385
and he didn't want
the congressman
to tell his story.
1609
01:39:30,032 --> 01:39:32,167
GOSNEY: The first time
I thought about
the consequences
1610
01:39:32,234 --> 01:39:34,769
of Jonestown and what
had happened
1611
01:39:34,836 --> 01:39:37,939
when I was in
a military hospital
in Puerto Rico,
1612
01:39:38,573 --> 01:39:40,008
and, uh,
1613
01:39:40,075 --> 01:39:42,910
a military psychiatrist
came to speak with me
1614
01:39:42,977 --> 01:39:44,846
and tell me that
my son was dead.
1615
01:39:47,582 --> 01:39:52,420
The loss of my son has
been the most difficult thing
in my life to deal with.
1616
01:39:52,487 --> 01:39:55,257
My sense of remorse,
my sense of guilt,
1617
01:39:55,323 --> 01:39:58,260
my going back to that moment
1618
01:39:58,326 --> 01:40:01,429
a million times and making
a different decision.
1619
01:40:05,567 --> 01:40:10,004
To find some level of peace
and some level of forgiveness
1620
01:40:10,072 --> 01:40:12,140
has been the most challenging
1621
01:40:14,476 --> 01:40:15,510
thing for me.
1622
01:40:20,148 --> 01:40:21,983
HARRIS: I love my daughter
very much.
1623
01:40:22,050 --> 01:40:26,154
I've lost her.
(STAMMERS) I'm suffering,
1624
01:40:26,221 --> 01:40:29,924
truly suffering with the grief
of that all these...
You know, for years.
1625
01:40:29,991 --> 01:40:32,127
And I came to see
1626
01:40:32,194 --> 01:40:35,330
that I was really holding
onto the grief as if I...
1627
01:40:35,397 --> 01:40:38,966
As if if I let it go I would
be letting go of her.
1628
01:40:39,033 --> 01:40:41,636
And I thought
that's not right.
1629
01:40:41,703 --> 01:40:46,374
And I came to see that
I could hold my daughter
as a loving memory.
1630
01:40:47,475 --> 01:40:48,543
Forever.
1631
01:40:50,678 --> 01:40:51,913
And let the grief go.
1632
01:40:56,384 --> 01:41:00,588
JONES: There were a lot of
reasons I think that people
ended up taking the poison.
1633
01:41:00,655 --> 01:41:03,725
I don't know who took it,
who was injected.
1634
01:41:03,791 --> 01:41:08,796
I think more than anything
it was out of loyalty
to everybody else there.
1635
01:41:08,863 --> 01:41:11,833
Um, in my case
if I had been there,
1636
01:41:11,899 --> 01:41:14,302
I know I had a strong
will to live,
1637
01:41:14,369 --> 01:41:17,071
but I think it was so
important to me...
1638
01:41:17,139 --> 01:41:19,674
How I was perceived
by the people of my community
1639
01:41:19,741 --> 01:41:22,544
was so important to me
1640
01:41:22,610 --> 01:41:24,846
that it might have
taken me to my death.
1641
01:41:28,950 --> 01:41:33,488
Ask yourself what would
someone have to tell you,
1642
01:41:33,555 --> 01:41:36,191
or what would someone
have to do to you
1643
01:41:36,258 --> 01:41:40,928
to get you to do something
that you couldn't possibly
believe you were capable of.
1644
01:41:42,130 --> 01:41:43,331
And examine that.
1645
01:41:45,733 --> 01:41:47,235
Learn from it.
1646
01:41:47,302 --> 01:41:50,138
Don't judge it,
don't stand separate from it.
1647
01:41:51,373 --> 01:41:52,640
Be willing to
1648
01:41:53,875 --> 01:41:55,577
stand in the shoes of
1649
01:41:56,544 --> 01:41:58,146
the people you are judging.
1650
01:42:00,882 --> 01:42:03,151
And I hope that,
1651
01:42:03,218 --> 01:42:05,587
you know, 900-plus people,
1652
01:42:05,653 --> 01:42:10,124
that they died
and the way they died,
1653
01:42:10,192 --> 01:42:14,629
um, might offer us
something so that their
lives won't be in vain.
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